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From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Archie2.05a: how to get?
Date: 31 Dec 1993 00:27:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2fvrm4$i1e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Hi all!
I wanted to compile a fat version of the Archie client and found
Archie2.05a using Archie :-) It's a package that gets the source from a
certain remote host (superc.che.udel.edu) but in my case Installer.app
does not seem to be able to access the remote files.
Anyone done this recently?
Thanks in advance for any help!
-- Fernando
nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Databases for NeXTstep
Date: 31 Dec 1993 01:46:05 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2g008t$hcn@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1993Dec27.213338.28268@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
afm@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Dr. Andreas Mueller) writes:
> I'm looking for a relational database system for my black station,
> and I would like to get an idea about prices of the various
> offerings. Does anyone have experiences he/she would be willing
> to share? (I know there is university ingres for free but my
> queries have become too complicated for it to handle) Any
> suggestions? Thanks in advance
A company called SofDesign Solutions has a relational database
engine that allows you to work with via SQL commands or via a DBKit
adaptor for it. I've only used the SQL interface so far, which has
worked fine for me. Both client code and the server for it is
supposed to run on either NeXT or Intel-based hardware, though I've
only used it on NeXT hardware (I still haven't bought an NS/Intel box).
SofDesign has a variety of products. If you have 3 users connecting
to your databases, the price for the server is abou $700. The more
people you want to connect at a single time, the more it costs.
That's for the plain database server. They also have some tools
to make it easier to create databases, user interfaces or just
plain reports for databases.
If you can receive NeXTmail, then send an email message to
sdc_demo@gun.com
to receive a demo version of the program, rich-text documentation,
and prices (it comes as about 10 NeXT-mail messages to whichever
address sent the message). If you want to talk to a person instead
of an automatic reply mechanism, send email to sdc@gun.com.
It's worked for me, but I always recommend that people check it out
for themselves. Chances are you're not doing the same things I am.
Disclaimer: I'm an acquaintance of the guy who started SofDesign
solutions, but have no financial connection to the company. I just
like the database engine, and the way they did it. Your mileage
may vary. Etc, etc.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: Mosaic, MouseX, expanded graphics, and sound
Date: 31 Dec 1993 02:43:23 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2g03kb$isb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
I have Mosaic running under MouseX on my NextStation Turbo (with ADB).
But the soundfiles don't play, nor can I get expanded graphics when I
click on the relevant icons (but the needed data appears to be flowing
into the machine, if the characters quickly changing at the bottom of
the Mosaic window are any indication).
I get the error messages:
sh: showaudio: not found
sh: xv: notfound
at the xterm window after exiting Mosaic.
But I put `showaudio' in /usr/bin/X11 as a link to
/usr/bin/sndplay. And I tried putting `xv' in /usr/bin/X11 as a link
to one of my local viewers.
Anyone know what I have done wrong?
Thanks very much for your reply---I post any answers that come only
to me.
Ed
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No P.D. terminal program??
Date: 28 Dec 1993 10:41:31 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2fov0b$10k@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CIKD6M.F1v@cc.umontreal.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes:
>It can't be that hard to write a simple terminal program with vt-100 and
>that can run at 38400 bps? I guess this is my first task for a program
>in NeXTstep.
Try plain unix ckermit. Available almost everywhere, and add the rz/sz-
for-NeXT-package. It just works...
Regards,
Markus.
--
Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und
zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
-----
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Saving mail as ASCII text?
Message-ID: <CIvsF2.21q@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <MAGNUS.93Dec23093429@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 03:59:25 GMT
Magnus Nordborg writes
| silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes:
| > By the way, I believe TickleServices can do just that (out of the box).
| > I don't have it on this machine, but I recall seeing "Save as RTF" and
| > "Save as ASCII" service menu items there.
|
| Tickleservices adds "Save as ASCII", "Save as RTF", "Save as
| TIFF",...plus many other Services (useful in Mail are formatting,
| quoting, uudecoding, etc). What more can I say? Every NeXT user
| needs it! :)
Can't you do the same things with Terminal Services... ?
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
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From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: Re: No P.D. terminal program??
Message-ID: <CIvt5E.CIr@cc.umontreal.ca>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <CIKD6M.F1v@cc.umontreal.ca> <2fov0b$10k@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 04:15:13 GMT
Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org) wrote:
: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes:
: >It can't be that hard to write a simple terminal program with vt-100 and
: >that can run at 38400 bps? I guess this is my first task for a program
: >in NeXTstep.
: Try plain unix ckermit. Available almost everywhere, and add the rz/sz-
: for-NeXT-package. It just works...
That's what I did. It does the job, and I *think* it's free. (Haven't
checked yet.) Thanks everyone. Only I wish it would auto-start zmodem :-)
> Intel aside.
ha!
...although now that NeXTstep is available, it's worth a look
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: HD Formatting Software
Message-ID: <Dec.31.02.43.29.1993.7896@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 31 Dec 93 07:43:30 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
I want to reformat my HD to use 1024bytes/sector low level formatting
instead of 512b/s. I was hoping some one out there in the net'herlands might
know of a PD formatting program that would let me reformat my HD. It doesnt
have to be fancy, just be able to make a nice, stable and reliable format at
1024b/s.
Anyway if you could pass the name of the app and maybe an FTP site,
that would be great.
Thanks much,
Later, John
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <KARTHY.93Dec31162920@dannug.dannug.dk>
Control: cancel <KARTHY.93Dec31162920@dannug.dannug.dk>
Date: 31 Dec 1993 15:37:11 GMT
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Dec31163711@dannug.dannug.dk>
--
Karsten Thygesen I Aalborg, Denmark
karthy@dannug.dk (NeXT-Mail welcome) I Voice: +45 98 12 42 59
Chairman, Danish NeXT Users Group I Fax: +45 98 12 44 81
From: hwr@pilhuhn.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No P.D. terminal program??
Date: 31 Dec 1993 16:47:01 +0100
Organization: The home of the pilhuhn
Message-ID: <2g1hhl$l8@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org>
References: <CIKD6M.F1v@cc.umontreal.ca> <2fov0b$10k@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes:
>>It can't be that hard to write a simple terminal program with vt-100 and
>>that can run at 38400 bps? I guess this is my first task for a program
>>in NeXTstep.
>Try plain unix ckermit. Available almost everywhere, and add the rz/sz-
>for-NeXT-package. It just works...
As does Terminal.app in conjunction with tip/cu.
--
Heiko W.Rupp Gerwigstr.5 D-76131 Karlsruhe +49 721 9661521
If you meet the Buddha on the net, put him in your kill file
--Robert Firth
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From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: Help: Mosaic, MouseX, expanded graphics, and sound
Message-ID: <1993Dec31.175505.8549@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <2g03kb$isb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 17:55:05 GMT
[question about external viewers for Mosaic]
I'm running Mosaic 2.1 under Cub'X. I've set things up to use NEXTSTEP
applications to view external data instead of X programs. This is a bit
of a hack, but it works.
It uses the "open" command to open external files, which allows the
workspace to pick the correct NEXTSTEP app. The problem is that Mosaic
immediately deletes the external file after calling "open", but "open"
returns almost instantly because it doesn't wait after messaging the
workspace (before the viewer has had a chance to open the file, in most
cases).
To get around this, I created a bunch of shell scripts in /usr/local/bin
that make a link to the external file, appending the desired extension,
then call open on the link. There are two side effects; (1) external
files don't get deleted after viewing; and (2) they have double extensions
(i.e. something.tif.tiff).
Instructions:
****[1] create a file called .mailcap in your home directory as follows
audio/*; soundopen %s
image/gif; gifopen %s
image/tiff; tiffopen %s
image/jpeg; jpegopen %s
image/*; xv %s
video/mpeg; mpegopen %s
video/*; genericmovie %s
application/postscript; epsopen %s
application/rtf; rtfopen %s
****[2] create a file in your home directory called .mime.types
application/postscript ai eps ps
application/rtf rtfd rtf
application/x-tex tex
application/x-texinfo texinfo texi
application/x-troff t tr roff
audio/basic au snd
audio/x-aiff aif aiff aifc
audio/x-wav wav
image/gif gif
image/ief ief
image/jpeg jpeg jpg jpe
image/tiff tiff tif
image/x-xwindowdump xwd
text/html html
text/plain txt
video/mpeg mpeg mpg mpe
video/quicktime qt mov
video/x-msvideo avi
video/x-sgi-movie movie
****[3] create the following shell scripts somewhere in your search path
(a) epsopen
#! /bin/sh
ln $1 $1.eps
open $1.eps
(b) jpegopen
#! /bin/sh
ln $1 $1.jpg
open $1.jpg
(c) tiffopen
#! /bin/sh
ln $1 $1.tiff
open $1.tiff
(d) gifopen
#! /bin/sh
ln $1 $1.gif
open $1.gif
(e) mpegopen
#! /bin/sh
ln $1 $1.mpg
open $1.mpg
(f) soundopen
#! /bin/sh
ln $1 $1.snd
open $1.snd
(g) rtfopen
#! /bin/sh
ln $1 $1.rtf
open $1.rtf
Make sure you set all these scripts to be executable and update your
search path (i.e. rehash or restart X), then give Mosaic a try. Mileage
may vary...
--
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Missing cursor.
Message-ID: <1993Dec30.094903.605@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <28DEC199322031216@rigel.tamu.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 09:49:03 GMT
In article <28DEC199322031216@rigel.tamu.edu> ravir@rigel.tamu.edu (Ravi
R. - CSC Vectorization/Parallelization) writes:
> Hi Folks,
>
> For some reason, the mouse cursor has disappeared on my NeXTStation
Get a Terminal window and type
echo showcursor | pft
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From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Subject: Re: Help: Mosaic, MouseX, expanded graphics, and sound
Message-ID: <1993Dec31.192348.28886@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University, California, USA
References: <1993Dec31.175505.8549@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 19:23:48 GMT
Gary Ritchie writes,
|
| [shell scripts for using 'open ...' to read images and such in mosaic]
|
The shell scripts are unnecessary. Here's what I put in .Xdefaults to get
the same functionality:
XMosaic*gifViewerCommand: (cat - > /tmp/xxx.gif; open /tmp/xxx.gif) <
XMosaic*jpegViewerCommand: (cat - > /tmp/xxx.jpg; open /tmp/xxx.jpg) <
XMosaic*postscriptViewerCommand: (cat - > /tmp/xxx.ps; open /tmp/xxx.ps) <
XMosaic*tiffViewerCommand: (cat - > /tmp/xxx.tiff; open /tmp/xxx.tiff) <
etc.
---
Scott Roy
Department of Computer Science
Stanford University
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From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: Help: Mosaic, MouseX, expanded graphics, and sound
Message-ID: <1993Dec31.204758.14508@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1993Dec31.192348.28886@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 20:47:58 GMT
> The shell scripts are unnecessary. Here's what I put in .Xdefaults to
> get the same functionality:
Do the Xdefaults still work? I thought they were removed in Mosaic 2.0+.
Your approach should work in the .mailcap as well, if it allows (...)
pipelines. Haven't tried.
--
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
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From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Subject: virtuoso landscape
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Dec31.215305.44257@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 21:53:05 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
is there a way to get landscape page layout in virtuoso? no can find. thanks.
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: virtuoso landscape
Date: 31 Dec 1993 22:11:23 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2g282b$m0l@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Dec31.215305.44257@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Dave Randall writes
> is there a way to get landscape page layout in virtuoso? no can
> find. thanks.
On the inspector panel, select the page icon (last on right), and
switch the page radio button from "tall" to "wide".
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP! Need WP Disk 5!!!
Date: 1 Jan 1994 02:17:29 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2g2mfp$1va@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Yikes! I rebuilt my disk (before installing NS 3.2
black) and when I started to reinstall Wordperfect
1.01 from my originals (of course I don't have a
backup copy) Disk 5 was bad.
Can some Nextmail me the WP package contained on
the Wordperfect 5 disk? NOT TO THIS ADDRESS!
(see below).
I know this is probably not
as per license, but I need WP NOW and the WP folks
aren't answering their phones.
DON'T NEXTMAIL HERE. USE rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
BTW my version is the one that works with ADB Nexts
Thanks
L.A. Brooks
rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
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From: samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Re: Missing cursor.
Message-ID: <2fv17b$46d@amber.hasc.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: The Hutchison Avenue Software Corp.
References: <28DEC199322031216@rigel.tamu.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 16:56:11 GMT
In article <28DEC199322031216@rigel.tamu.edu> ravir@rigel.tamu.edu (Ravi R. - CSC Vectorization/Parallelization) writes:
>Hi Folks,
>
>For some reason, the mouse cursor has disappeared on my NeXTStation Turbo. The
>cursor I am referring to is the one that I use to select applications from the
>Workspace.app/genericCursor.tiff. Can anyone tell me how I can make the cursor
>reappear ? A dwrite perhaps ?
>
You might want to try the following thing ---
[julian] [/us/samurai] pft
Connection to PostScript established.
showcursor
revealcursor
[julian] [/us/samurai]
-----
Just type in the two commands and they will be sent to the Windowserver.
After the second one, do a Control-D. One of the two should bring the
cursor back (if you're lucky).
Anyway, if you ever kill BackSpace from a remote session while it has
the screensaver up, you'll lose the cursor. Doing the above will
bring it back...
- darcy
--
If it's dark when you leave the office and there's snow on the ground, you're
in winter. If it's dark when you get up [...] you're in winter. This is not
magical, this is not a wonderland; This is snow, ice and sunlight deprivation.
Mon pays c'est shitty weather you can't see. -- Montreal Mirror (Qc. Winter)
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: POSTSCRIPT EDITING
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 94 12:42:46 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2966531136.2.p00378@psilink.com>
I can print but I can't preview a Postscript file I ftp'd.
I recently ftp'd a Postscript [PS] file from the net. After
uudecoding and uncompressing the file I
double-clicked [dc'd] to view it. My window showed a page number but
no apparent contents. However, when I attempted to print the file from
the PREVIEWER, there seemed to be contents which did print.
The problem is that the first page is formatted correctly (font: Times
Roman 10) which allows me to completely read the printed material.
However, from the second page and beyond they all come out incorrectly
(font: Courier 12) which disallows me to read the material. When
incorrectly printed, the material extends beyond the borders of the
margins and the paper and does not wrap. I believe I need to edit the
format settings for the document, but by not being able to view the
material I feel I am at a lost. Is there a way I can fix this
viewing/editing problem within the PREVIEWer? As anyone else ever
experienced this problem?
The source of the document appears to be a SUN, but that should not
matter since the first page prints perfectly. I simply want to have
all the other pages print exactly like the first page. What is making
it different and how can I fix this without being able to VIEW the
document. FYI, I have ftp'd several files this way and have never
experienced this inability to VIEW before. HELP!!!
Thanks in advance,
James
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Date: 1 Jan 1994 21:21:45 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2g4ph9$4jf@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Last Jan 1, 93, my enTar stopped working -Impact Software had a
built-in bomb requiring me to re-register on Jan 1. They did send me
email with a new key and informed that this will not happen again.
While I am not saying that it happened again, I AM SAYING that today,
on Jan 1 94, my enTar stopped working again. If you use enTar, it
might make sense to check how it is doing this year.
I can only get a recording at their 800-number. I wish them a
relaxing and worry-free extended weekend.
Are you aware of any other companies having this kind of outrageous
policies (and the existence of which they don't disclose to you until
it is too late)?
Heikki Ketola
From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: mpeg - tin - news grazer
Date: 1 Jan 1994 22:26:37 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2g4tat$kdk@ratatosk.uninett.no>
3 questions for the wise and learned:
1. How on earth do I make mpag files on a next. My source is a NeXT
Dimensions video board, QuickTime movies or a series of pictures in any
format.
2. tin refuses to post articles. I read news from a remote nntp server,
compose a posting and when I try to post it complains about needing
"inews".
3, After installing 3.2 news grazer is behaving eratically. What are ALL
the .rc files I need to remove to refresh it?
As always, email copies of answers are appreciated.
- Barre
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From: rob@brewster.demon.co.uk (Robert Alan Heyes)
Subject: Re: POSTSCRIPT EDITING
References: <2966531136.2.p00378@psilink.com>
Organization: Kallisti Systems
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 1994 22:19:53 +0000
Message-ID: <757462793snz@brewster.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <2966531136.2.p00378@psilink.com>
p00378@psilink.com ""James Gaines"" writes:
> The problem is that the first page is formatted correctly (font: Times
> Roman 10) which allows me to completely read the printed material.
> However, from the second page and beyond they all come out incorrectly
> (font: Courier 12) which disallows me to read the material. When
This almost certainly means that the document is using a font that you don't
possess from the second page onwards. Short of installing the correct font
(which may cost money) you could try substituting a different one with
similar characteristics.
> incorrectly printed, the material extends beyond the borders of the
> margins and the paper and does not wrap. I believe I need to edit the
> format settings for the document, but by not being able to view the
> material I feel I am at a lost. Is there a way I can fix this
> viewing/editing problem within the PREVIEWer? As anyone else ever
> experienced this problem?
Open up the inspector from the workspace/tools menu and pick the tools
viewer. You can then select the Edit app to view the file - alternatively
just start up Edit.app and open the file from the file selector.
--
Robert Alan Heyes
From: turnbull@datarev.datarev.COM (Steve Turnbull)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Date: 1 Jan 1994 20:23:45 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University
Sender: root@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <9401020123.AA03677@datarev.datarev.com>
In comp.sys.next.software article <2g4ph9$4jf@news.mic.ucla.edu> you wrote:
> Last Jan 1, 93, my enTar stopped working -Impact Software had a
> built-in bomb requiring me to re-register on Jan 1. They did send me
> email with a new key and informed that this will not happen again.
>
> While I am not saying that it happened again, I AM SAYING that today,
> on Jan 1 94, my enTar stopped working again. If you use enTar, it
> might make sense to check how it is doing this year.
> I can only get a recording at their 800-number. I wish them a
> relaxing and worry-free extended weekend.
>
> Are you aware of any other companies having this kind of outrageous
> policies (and the existence of which they don't disclose to you until
> it is too late)?
>
> Heikki Ketola
I just checked my copy and you were right! it no longer works!!
I have just finished sending a e-mail message and I encourage everyone with this
problem to do likewise. Perhaps then they will resolve this problem once and
for all.
Steve Turnbull
turnbull@datarev.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Message-ID: <1994Jan2.012117.17107@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <2g4ph9$4jf@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 01:21:17 GMT
Thanks for the info. Well, Impact goes on my short list of companies
never to do business with.
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: hcs@panix.com (Harris Skibell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Presto/Sequence
Date: 1 Jan 1994 18:56:14 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <2g52iu$cjt@panix.com>
Keywords: music
Has anyone heard of the status of Presto/Sequence? There was a new
version announced for last October that to my knowledge never
materialized. My e-mail to Pinnacle was returned to me. Ralph,
are you out there?
Thanks in advance,
Harris Skibell
From: rlion@access3.digex.net (rebel lion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Date: 1 Jan 1994 22:42:44 -0500
Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <rlion.757482140@access3>
References: <2g4ph9$4jf@news.mic.ucla.edu> <1994Jan2.012117.17107@news.media.mit.edu>
wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>Thanks for the info. Well, Impact goes on my short list of companies
>never to do business with.
yah me too. if that's how they think they can make some more money, i'm
noe giving them any of mine
--
rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140)
=-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-=
void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MAB AppsoftDraw?
Date: 31 Dec 1993 09:57:34 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2g0phu$10p@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1993Dec28.193503.2611@cs.yale.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>Did AppsoftDraw (v1.02) ever ship in a MAB/Intel version?
Did it ever run for longer than five minutes?
I don't know the version number of the AppsoftDraw demo on the
3.1 3rd party CD, but it was the buggiest piece of software I've ever seen.
--
Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und
zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
-----
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Subject: Re: Presto/Sequence
Message-ID: <1994Jan2.044207.8238@math.ucla.edu>
Keywords: music
Sender: news@math.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
References: <2g52iu$cjt@panix.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 94 04:42:07 GMT
In article <2g52iu$cjt@panix.com> hcs@panix.com (Harris Skibell) writes:
>Has anyone heard of the status of Presto/Sequence? There was a new
>version announced for last October that to my knowledge never
>materialized. My e-mail to Pinnacle was returned to me. Ralph,
>are you out there?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Harris Skibell
I contacted Pinnacle about Presto (aka Sequence)
in December. They don't accept credit cards,
and wanted a few weeks for check clearance. I
have the demo - Presto v0.9.6b - which is quite
robust, works with standard cables to my Midi
Time Piece II, and my Kurzweil K-2000. The demo
(ftp cs.orst.edu) is crippled only in various save
functions. I believe a key makes the demo full-
functioning but I'm not sure. There is no manual
to my knowledge.
The writers of Presto seem hemmed in by the fact
that they can't release *version 1* until all of
their original plans are fully coded and functioning,
a sort of benign procrastination syndrome, since it
doesn't affect the end user whether the nth detail
of their original plan works or not (my opinion).
I'd be curious to know what your hardware config. is
and if you are satisfied with NeXT as a MIDI platform.
Pinnacle Research
(602) 327-8949
4725 E. Sunrise Dr. #435
Tucson, AZ 85718
ksbrain@pri.com
Good Luck,
Charlie Dvorak
PS mail bounced so posted followup.
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Starting Shell in Emacs.app
Date: 2 Jan 1994 04:59:08 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2g5kas$cg5@umd5.umd.edu>
Does anyone know how to make Emacs stop giving me the following
message:
next151> Warning: incomplete termcap entry. Editing disabled.
every time I try to start up a shell using M-x shell ? I realize this isn't
particular to Emacs.app of course, since it seems to happen with every version
of Emacs on every NeXT I try. This probably more an emacs related question
than a NeXT one, but I thought I'd give it a try here.
Rich Ogata
rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Compiling WAIStation and WAIS server on NS Intel
Message-ID: <westesCIzpMq.85u@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 06:49:38 GMT
I downloaded the March WAIStation binary and sources from ftp.wais.com, and
the binary is not FAT format, and the source does not seem to build
under NS 3.2 developer. Has anyone modified the source for client
or server for NS Intel 3.2? Could you post an ftp location?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Presto/Sequence
Date: 2 Jan 1994 08:10:02 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2g5vgq$kq2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <1994Jan2.044207.8238@math.ucla.edu>
In article <1994Jan2.044207.8238@math.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S.
Port) writes:
> have the demo - Presto v0.9.6b - which is quite
> robust, works with standard cables to my Midi
> Time Piece II, and my Kurzweil K-2000. The demo
What do you mean by standard cables? Can you point me to where you bought that
cable or how you made it? Also, do you know if Pinnacle has any plans to
support the MTP's 128 channel feature?
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
Time is just one damn thing after another.
==============================================================================
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Starting Shell in Emacs.app
Date: 2 Jan 1994 09:45:31 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401021546.AA06342@cantina.lanl.gov>
Rich Ogata wrote:
Does anyone know how to make Emacs stop giving me the following message:
next151> Warning: incomplete termcap entry. Editing disabled.
every time I try to start up a shell using M-x shell ?
I had the same thing for a long time whenever I'd login to my NeXT at work
through the modem on another NeXT next door. Not sure just how I fixed it,
but it was clearly necessary to fiddle with the .login file on the intermediate
NeXT. Its .login file now contains the following:
switch($TERM)
case dialup:
case unknown:
set noglob; eval `tset -Q -s`; unset noglob
set term=vt100
clear
breaksw
default:
set noglob; eval `tset -Q -s`; unset noglob
set term=$TERM
stty -tabs
breaksw
endsw
The idea is that the intermediate machine needed to know definitely that it was
talking to a "vt100" (or its equivalent).
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: hacker@access2.digex.net (Dark Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for sw to make cube a print server
Date: 2 Jan 1994 12:03:07 -0500
Organization: Fortress Of Computation
Message-ID: <2g6uob$bjn@access2.digex.net>
Sometime ago someone announced software that runs on the NeXT and
let's you use the NeXT as a print server for other machine brands on
ethernet. So, for example, you could use your Macintosh to
print documents on the NeXT's printer with both on an ethernet.
I don't think it was CAP but I'm not sure. Might have been.
Any clues for the clueless?
- hacker
--
Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation
hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us
"Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
From: hndrcksn@ectds.com (Jim Hendrickson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MAB AppsoftDraw?
Date: 2 Jan 1994 19:40:11 GMT
Organization: Trident Data Systems
Sender: hndrcksn@1.121.159.165.in-addr.arpa.
Message-ID: <2g77ur$1fu@discovery.ectds.com>
References: <1993Dec28.193503.2611@cs.yale.edu>
<2g0phu$10p@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
In article <2g0phu$10p@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>
> >Did AppsoftDraw (v1.02) ever ship in a MAB/Intel version?
> Did it ever run for longer than five minutes?
>
> I don't know the version number of the AppsoftDraw demo on the
> 3.1 3rd party CD, but it was the buggiest piece of software I've ever seen.
Not that I ever saw. Also, I don't see anything on the CD-ROM sent
with NS/I 3.2.
Jim
My opinions do not necesarily reflect those of Trident Data Systems, or
for that matter, lots of people I know.
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EnTar Problems
Date: 2 Jan 1994 14:38:11 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401022036.AA01866@relay2.geis.com>
Carbon Copy also sent to info@impact.com
>Last Jan 1, 93, my enTar stopped working -Impact Software had a
>built-in bomb requiring me to re-register on Jan 1. They did send me
>email with a new key and informed that this will not happen again.
Well,
I did not try mine yet but the same thing happened to me last year
and I REALLY needed my DAT tape when this happened. I was
NOT a happy camper. They also told me it would not happened again
so I have to realize that THEY LIED to me and everyone else!!!
I like EnTar but I DON'T like this type of trouble. I'll give serious
consideration to SafetyNet which I hear is very good and I never
heard of licensing problems like the ones we have with EnTar.
Sorry, Impact but it's not a good way to do business. The very least
they could have done is mail us a new code before the old one runs
out.
Eric "E.T."
From: rlion@access3.digex.net (rebel lion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: anyone know of a nifty drawing program
Date: 2 Jan 1994 17:48:57 -0500
Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <rlion.757550918@access3>
i have "draw" and Diagram! but i don't really like either of them all that
much. so anyone?
--
rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140)
=-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-=
void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
From: rlion@access3.digex.net (rebel lion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: problem w/ any sound programs
Date: 2 Jan 1994 17:50:16 -0500
Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <rlion.757550951@access3>
when using almost any sound program (including SoundPlayer.app,
SoundEditor, Sound.app) and calling out with my modem, certain
charachters seem to get "eaten". It's like every couple seconds a
charachter just get sent to the big bit bucket in the sky :).
--
rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140)
=-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-=
void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any mpeg viewers for the NeXT/NextStep?
Date: 3 Jan 1994 00:11:31 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2g7nrj$u0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Can anyone please tell me whether there are any NeXT applications that
will read and display mpeg files?
Thank you.
Ed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: anyone know of a nifty drawing program
Message-ID: <CJ19BE.4w8@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <rlion.757550918@access3>
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 02:52:26 GMT
rebel lion writes
> i have "draw" and Diagram! but i don't really like either of them all that
> much. so anyone?
did you try Diagram 2? its a major improvement.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dst @mntage.PUCnet.com(Daryl Thachuk)
Subject: TrueType Font conversion
Message-ID: <CJ1BnL.164@mntage.uucp>
Sender: dst@mntage.uucp (Daryl Thachuk)
Organization: Montage Designs, Edmonton, AB, Canada
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 03:42:57 GMT
Are there any NeXTSTEP TrueType font conversion utilities in existence?
I've just acquired some fonts and I would like to use them on my NeXT.
Thanx
--
Daryl Thachuk dst@mntage.PUCnet.com
Montage Designs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: david@prim.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: anyone know of a nifty drawing program
Message-ID: <1994Jan3.001425.1994@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <rlion.757550918@access3>
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 00:14:25 GMT
In article <rlion.757550918@access3> rlion@access3.digex.net (rebel lion) writes:
>void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
rlion.757550918: illegal compound statement: encountered end of stream
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (Oberon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
Subject: Nextstep Doom
Message-ID: <129201@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 3 Jan 94 07:05:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
I had the Doom beta for NEXTSTEP until the dos shareware version came
out. Has the NEXTSTEP release come out yet? I'd kind of like to migrate
to that platform.
Also, I'm curious if you can start multiple instances of the app
under nextstep? So that instead of having 1 monitor for the right
view, one monitor for the left view, and one for the main view, you
could have 3 windows..
Just seems like it'd be nice to do that :-)
John
--
John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu)
===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.==============
I have seen things you people wouldn't believe: Attack ships on fire off the
shoulder of Orion; I watched C Beams glitter in the dark near the Tan Hauser
Gate; All of these moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Time to die.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 3 Jan 1994 01:35:26 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2g8ebe$b0h@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
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You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
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address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
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If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
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To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
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at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Subject: Re: problem w/ any sound programs
Message-ID: <1994Jan3.082046.18927@math.ucla.edu>
Sender: news@math.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 08:20:46 GMT
In article <rlion.757550951@access3> rlion@access3.digex.net (rebel lion) writes
:
>
>when using almost any sound program (including SoundPlayer.app,
>SoundEditor, Sound.app) and calling out with my modem, certain
>charachters seem to get "eaten". It's like every couple seconds a
>charachter just get sent to the big bit bucket in the sky :).
>
>
You didn't say which is going to that KFC bucket in the sky -
the outgoing modem or performance of sound files. In any case
try running fixedpolicy -e from command line found in the
MusicKit from ftp-ccrma.stanford.edu. This solves most
of my music performance problems. It's located in
/usr/lib/MusicKit/bin/fixedpolicy. -e is enable.
Charlie Dvorak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org (Christopher Avery)
Subject: Re: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Message-ID: <CJ0rB2.40B@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1994Jan2.012117.17107@news.media.mit.edu>
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 20:23:26 GMT
In article <1994Jan2.012117.17107@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
and Steve Trunbull>
Just to throw in my &^%$#, my copy also died. I guess Impact likes to get
mail from their customers every Jan 1st!!
--
Christopher Avery
reply to:cavery@andi.org (NeXTMail accepted)
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Softpc (with windows?) doesn't do windows.
Date: 3 Jan 1994 14:14:47 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2g998n$9bs@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I just loaded NSI 3.2 onto my machine. The softpc with windows
doesn't seem to be working properly. When I start it (double click
on its Icon), it comes up in DOS text mode-- no windows. Further,
there is no windows subdirectory in the DOS filesystem, and no
indication of how to start up windows (typing "win" doesn't work).
I can't find a solution to my problem in the softpc online help.
Can anyone straighten me out? THanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EnTar Problems
Date: 3 Jan 1994 08:21:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401031422.AA06789@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
I received this mail which may relieve some enTar-users...
I'm a bit pouzzled as to why I received it, though, as I don't have
enTar...!
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 06:24:03 -0500
From: hhsu@impact.com (Henry Hsu)
To: ImpactMailListD2@impact.com
Subject: enTar 3.0 for Intel and NeXT / Note to Version 1.4 Users
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Henry Hsu
Phone: (718) 472-0600
FAX: (718) 472-0160
E-mail: info@impact.com
Long Island City, New York - Junuary 1, 1994 - Impact
Software Publishing, Inc. is pleased to announce Release
3.0 of its enTar(TM) backup program.
enTar will painlessly back up your files and directories
onto mass storage devices. enTar works with DAT, 8 mm, and
other SCSI tape devices, as well as with floppy, optical,
and other removable disks. In addition, enTar can back up
your data to networked disks.
Because enTar automatically configures tape devices, it works with most
SCSI tape devices. enTar can back up multiple files and directories
into a single file and can browse and selectively restore files within
the single backup. enTar also features UNIX data compression and
tar formats for backups so that backup data can be exchanged with
other UNIX systems, such as Sun or IBM.
Previous purchasers of enTar are entitled to free upgrades
to the latest version. (Users can upgrade by simply
obtaining a copy of version 3.0 and entering their old
license numbers.) A demo version of enTar 3.0 is currently
available by FTP from:
nova.cc.purdue.edu /pub/next/3.0/com/enTar3.0.tar.Z
/pub/next/submissions/enTar3.0.tar.Z
cs.orst.edu /pub/next/demos/util/enTar3.0.tar.Z
/pub/next/submissions/enTar3.0.tar.Z
For users with NeXTmail, a demo copy of enTar 3.0 can be requested
through info@impact.com. A free demo floppy of enTar 3.0 can also
be requested by calling 1-800-822-3385.
enTar 3.0 is priced at $89 and there are educational and site license
discounts available. If you would like more information about enTar
3.0,
please send your request to info@impact.com.
*Note to Version 1.4 Users: If you are currently using version 1.4 of
enTar,
please upgrade by entering your old license numbers into version 3.0.
Version 1.4 is very old and contained an obsolete year-end relicensing
mechanism. Due to customer feedbacks and suggestions, all our current
and future releases have this mechanism completely removed.
***
enTar is a trademark of Impact Software Publishing, Inc.
NeXT is a trademark of NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Date: 3 Jan 1994 15:01:30 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2g9c0a$bve@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <1994Jan2.012117.17107@news.media.mit.edu>
In article <1994Jan2.012117.17107@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> Thanks for the info. Well, Impact goes on my short list of companies
> never to do business with.
>
>
> --
> --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
> --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
> --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
> --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Well, my copy of SuperDebugger (also from Impact) seems to be working
alright. After the bogus New Years surprise last year, they promised it
wouldn't happen again. It did not in the case of SUperDebugger
(thankfully).
Perhaps they mistakenly neglected to remove the expiration code from
enTar? Given the amount of e-mail they must be getting, I'm sure there
will be a definitive answer soon.
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Mounting SUN disk (read-only)
Message-ID: <1994Jan3.112844.19316@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 11:28:44 GMT
For those who are interested:
To mount !!!read-only!!! a one partition SUN disk just type:
1) If it's a removable media /etc/mount -r /dev/sdXh /directory (X stand
for the volume number) then insert the disk when the WorkspaceManager asks
for. When finished, /etc/unmount /directory then /etc/disk -e /dev/rsdXh
to eject.
2) If it's a fixed disk, don't initialise the volume when you log-in, then
proceed as above.
--Fabien
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted)
Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering
3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France,
Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
From: S A McIntyre <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Date: 3 Jan 1994 15:59:43 GMT
Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK
Sender: dps3sam@altair (S A McIntyre)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2g9fdf$h85@mercury.dur.ac.uk>
References: <1994Jan2.012117.17107@news.media.mit.edu> <2g9c0a$bve@fermat.mayo.edu>
I just got enTar 3.0 from the archives; it doesn't have the bomb in it for
the end of the year, and the programmer says that he took that out. I
don't know how good of an idea it was to have it; it wasn't ever to get
more money out of people, but it did ensure that at least once a year you
got the latest version of the software (which I think was the point).
I don't really use enTar anymore; not for real backups, between Opener
and SafetyNet my backup and forwardup needs are taken care of...but oh well,
credit card spending gone wild...
Scott
From: S A McIntyre <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SBook latest?
Date: 3 Jan 1994 16:04:58 GMT
Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK
Sender: dps3sam@altair (S A McIntyre)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2g9fna$h85@mercury.dur.ac.uk>
What is the latest version of SBook and could someone who is actually
running it drop me a email line?
thanks,
Scott
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: listserv 6.0c, 931130 on NEXTSTEP 3.0
Date: 3 Jan 1994 10:38:27 -0500
Organization: Collins International Services Company
Message-ID: <2g9e5j$vl@sgate.com>
Has anyone gotten this thing to compile? Someone must have, because the docs
say it was ported to NEXTSTEP 3.0.
But every time I try, it bombs on src/misc.c, line 217, complaining about
dereferencing to an incomplete type:
misc.c:217: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
The time in question is the struct tm * variable 't', and I've got no bloody
idea as what the compiler means by "incomplete type." There are no #defines
getting in the way that I can see.
time.h is being included, where the struct tm is defined. The 't' variable
is defined above as (line 160)
struct tm *t;
I even went ahead and forced DONT_GO_INTERACTIVE defined (and #undef's its
reverse) in defs.h, even though it didn't look like that code would change
anything.
I'm stuck. Anyone got a clue? Thanks.
------
Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
------
Man is the only animal that blushes -- or needs to.
-- Mark Twain
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Date: 3 Jan 1994 17:19:16 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2g9k2k$8nb@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <1994Jan2.012117.17107@news.media.mit.edu> <2g9c0a$bve@fermat.mayo.edu> <2g9fdf$h85@mercury.dur.ac.uk>
S A McIntyre <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> writes:
>I just got enTar 3.0 from the archives; it doesn't have the bomb in it for
>the end of the year, and the programmer says that he took that out. I
>don't know how good of an idea it was to have it; it wasn't ever to get
>more money out of people, but it did ensure that at least once a year you
>got the latest version of the software (which I think was the point).
It is a harebrained idea to begin with. Suppose Impact had gone out
of business. We'd all have dead programs now. Now that they didn't
go out of business, we still have dead programs.
I paid for the program to own it -I did not rent the program for a
year. Impact might have an excuse if they had told me that enTar
needs "resurrection" once a year. They did not tell me that -in fact
a year ago they told me that this will not happen again.
>I don't really use enTar anymore; not for real backups, between Opener
>and SafetyNet my backup and forwardup needs are taken care of...but oh well,
>credit card spending gone wild...
>Scott
Someone at SafetyNet is reading these posts -I received a 30-day demo
license with email as a response to my original post. That is in some
contrast to Impact -they have my money and they are still vacationing
somewhere -so far I have had no response from them. But I did leave
a message on their answering machine.
Heikki
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: Softpc (with windows?) doesn't do windows.
Message-ID: <1994Jan3.185615.14653@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <2g998n$9bs@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 18:56:15 GMT
When the "create hard drive" panel came up the first time you ran, did you
click the "Windows" radio button? It defaults to creating a DOS-only hard
drive.
> I just loaded NSI 3.2 onto my machine. The softpc with windows
> doesn't seem to be working properly. When I start it (double click
> on its Icon), it comes up in DOS text mode-- no windows. Further,
> there is no windows subdirectory in the DOS filesystem, and no
> indication of how to start up windows (typing "win" doesn't work).
> I can't find a solution to my problem in the softpc online help.
> Can anyone straighten me out? THanks.
--
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Current SLIP for NSFIP 3.2?
Message-ID: <1994Jan3.105456.7955@nic.csu.net>
From: djasper@odie.santarosa.edu (Dane Jasper)
Date: 3 Jan 94 10:54:54 PST
Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA
Where can I find the current version of SLIP for NSFIP?? I ftped one version
and it was for 2.0/2.1!! gack.. Thanks for any pointers, and email is
appreciated..
Dane
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Alex Raftis)
Subject: Re: TrueType Font conversion
Message-ID: <1994Jan03.193957.17247@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 94 19:39:57 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, SLO
References: <CJ1BnL.164@mntage.uucp>
In article <CJ1BnL.164@mntage.uucp> dst @mntage.PUCnet.com(Daryl Thachuk)
writes:
>
> Are there any NeXTSTEP TrueType font conversion utilities in existence?
> I've just acquired some fonts and I would like to use them on my NeXT.
>
Haven't tried this yet, but someone might want to see if this works. It
looked like it would.
To convert a TT font to PostScript, set up your printer to print to a
file, and then include any fonts you wanted converted into a document. You
should then make sure to configure the fonts that you want converted (via
the advanced options under the printer config) to be downloaded rather
than substituted. After this, you should be able to copy and paste the
font out of the file on disk. If someone, with current access to a PC,
wants to try this, I can mail them a program that will produce an AFM file
from the PostScript font.
Once you have the fonts, you should create a directory on the NeXT called
<fontname>.font which has the files <fontname> and <fontname>.afm in it.
Then run buildafmdir and cacheAFMData.
Alex
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______________________________________________________
Internet: alex@data.acs.calpoly.edu (NeXT mail)
araftis@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: goofy!stephens (robert stephens)
Subject: UUCon - UUCP-ez Apps for NEXTSTEP 3.2 ?
Message-ID: <1994Jan3.171345.859@goofy.uucp>
Keywords: UUCon, UUCP-ez
Sender: stephens@goofy.uucp
Organization: Open Road
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 17:13:45 GMT
I have used uucp-ez on NeXT hardware to configure the machine for uucp. It
worked ok with NEXTSTEP 3.0 but when I upgraded to NEXTSTEP 3.2, the UUCON
app doesn't see outgoing mail in queue.
I tried to re-install UUCP-ez and UUCON but that didn't help.
Does anyone know if there is an updated version for each of these apps for
NEXTSTEP 3.2 ?
Thanks,
Robert Stephens
stephens@netcom.com
From: memetral@media.mit.edu (Max Metral)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mailers
Date: 3 Jan 1994 20:14:08 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2g9uag$ohm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Are there any other mailers for the NeXT other than Mail.app?
Specifically, I'd like folders in folders, easier filing, and
better composition.
(I'd also like a signature file, but maybe this is already there.)
Would much appreciate any help... (As you can probably tell, I'm a bit of
a beginner.)
--==<Max>==--
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: HD Formatting Software
Message-ID: <Jan.3.16.05.53.1994.18902@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 3 Jan 94 21:05:54 GMT
References: <Dec.31.02.43.29.1993.7896@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>Hi All,
> I want to reformat my HD to use 1024bytes/sector low level formatting
>instead of 512b/s. I was hoping some one out there in the net'herlands might
>know of a PD formatting program that would let me reformat my HD. It doesnt
>have to be fancy, just be able to make a nice, stable and reliable format at
>1024b/s.
Welp, since I've received only one response to this question...
A program called TheFormatter which works on NeXT computers, goes for $45
for each hard drive that you want to format!!!! This is shareware??? What a
joke!
So I would rather pay some money for a commercial DOS program that is capable
of formatting at 1024b/s. So hopefully some one out there can give me the name
of a good DOS app capable of these flexible formatting features.
>Thanks much,
> Later, John
From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Booch Palette for Diagram?
Date: 3 Jan 1994 16:43:21 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <2g9hv9$p5q@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Has anybody gone to the trouble to create a Diagram palette that has
Booch-diagram symbols on it? I'd sure like to have one...
--
// David Geary Seattle: America's most Attractive City ...
// david.geary@mccaw.com ... to the _Jetstream_
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Mailers
Message-ID: <1994Jan3.230417.4812@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2g9uag$ohm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 23:04:17 GMT
In article <2g9uag$ohm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> memetral@media.mit.edu
(Max Metral) writes:
> Are there any other mailers for the NeXT other than Mail.app?
>
> Specifically, I'd like folders in folders, easier filing, and
> better composition.
What do you mean by those three items?
General comments that I hear from people with a heavy mail habit are that
they need a better browser (threaded), automatic filing into mailboxes,
better address book handling, and more formats supported (NeXTmail,
ccMail, MIME, mailtool, etc).
Some of these things are doable, if you don't mind getting under the hood
(with procmail, etc).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Re: Softpc (with windows?) doesn't do windows.
Message-ID: <2g9gee$2uf@amber.hasc.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: The Hutchison Avenue Software Corp.
References: <2g998n$9bs@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 16:17:18 GMT
In article <2g998n$9bs@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I just loaded NSI 3.2 onto my machine. The softpc with windows
>doesn't seem to be working properly. When I start it (double click
>on its Icon), it comes up in DOS text mode-- no windows. Further,
There are two kinds of "disks" that you use with SoftPC. One has
windows on it, and the other has only dos.
You want to install the Windows disk, so use the "New Disk" menu
item (or is it in the preferences? I forget...), and when the
save panel comes up, you should select the disk type to be
"Windows Disk".
Set this in preferences to be your C: drive, and you'll get it
when you start up.
Note that if you double-click on a SoftPC disk, that disk will
be mounted on C: before SoftPC starts it's PC session.
- db
--
If it's dark when you leave the office and there's snow on the ground, you're
in winter. If it's dark when you get up [...] you're in winter. This is not
magical, this is not a wonderland; This is snow, ice and sunlight deprivation.
Mon pays c'est shitty weather you can't see. -- Montreal Mirror (Qc. Winter)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Date: 3 Jan 1994 21:47:34 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2ga3pm$qa@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Jan2.012117.17107@news.media.mit.edu> <2g9c0a$bve@fermat.mayo.edu> <2g9fdf$h85@mercury.dur.ac.uk> <2g9k2k$8nb@news.mic.ucla.edu>
hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) wrote
>Someone at SafetyNet is reading these posts -I received a 30-day demo
>license with email as a response to my original post. That is in some
>contrast to Impact -they have my money and they are still vacationing
>somewhere -so far I have had no response from them. But I did leave
>a message on their answering machine.
>
>Heikki
I too will be purchasing SafetyNet shortly as it's the best archiving
tool around.
Brian, gave me a 30-day demo license in response to a query of mine
some time ago.
Really, SafetyNet is only 10 dollars (at last looking) more expensive
than enTar and I believe it's much more professionally put together.
--
"Buzzword Development" the new way for the 90's.
Promising to deliver but not delivering what you promised.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mailers
Date: 3 Jan 1994 21:52:48 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ga43g$sl@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2g9uag$ohm@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
memetral@media.mit.edu wrote
>Are there any other mailers for the NeXT other than Mail.app?
>
>Specifically, I'd like folders in folders, easier filing, and
>better composition.
>
>(I'd also like a signature file, but maybe this is already there.)
>
>Would much appreciate any help... (As you can probably tell, I'm a bit of
>a beginner.)
>
>--==<Max>==--
No there isn't and I don't believe any are expected in the short-term.
The best alternative to Mail.app's lack of filtering capabilities is
procmail
SOURCE
This program is part of the procmail mail-processing-package
(v2.92pre9 1993/11/29) available at your nearest USENET
comp.sources.misc archive, or at ftp.informatik.rwth-
aachen.de (137.226.112.172) as pub/unix/procmail.tar.Z.
together with Carl's mail utlities.
I've got things set up quite well with those set of tools.
--
NexT MAIL to /usr/spool/mail/robert (where Mail.app finds it)
Ordinary Mail to Unix Mailbox format
Appropriate NeXT Mail to their respective Mailboxes based on sophisticated
regex filtering.
--
"Buzzword Development" the new way for the 90's.
Promising to deliver but not delivering what you promised.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Calculator
Message-ID: <1994Jan3.200612.636@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 20:06:12 GMT
I am looking for a MAB calculator. It can be Public Domain or inexpensive
commercial.
Thanks
WEs
--
Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation)
8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
(713) 827-2650 FAX (713) 856-7851
--
Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation)
8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Re: MAB AppsoftDraw?
Message-ID: <1994Jan3.152320.249@stone.com>
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
References: <2g77ur$1fu@discovery.ectds.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 15:23:20 GMT
In article <2g77ur$1fu@discovery.ectds.com> hndrcksn@ectds.com (Jim
Hendrickson) writes:
> In article <2g0phu$10p@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>
> > nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> >
> > >Did AppsoftDraw (v1.02) ever ship in a MAB/Intel version?
> > Did it ever run for longer than five minutes?
> >
> > I don't know the version number of the AppsoftDraw demo on the
> > 3.1 3rd party CD, but it was the buggiest piece of software I've ever
seen.
>
> Not that I ever saw. Also, I don't see anything on the CD-ROM sent
> with NS/I 3.2.
>
Check out Create 2.0. It's MAB, it's supported, it's got all the hot
features of NX 3.x, and it has an excellent student price, as well as
discounts for faculty and developers.
ftp.cs.unm.edu in pub/stone/Create/Create_2.0.tar
andrew
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!! Andrew Stone !! (505) 345-4800 !!
!! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !!
||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>>||<<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
From: jeddak@echonyc.com (Jonathan Donald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Databases for NeXTstep
Date: 4 Jan 1994 01:17:15 GMT
Organization: ECHO BBS & Public Access Internet Site, NYC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gag2r$j5@subway.echonyc.com>
References: <1993Dec27.213338.28268@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <2g008t$hcn@usenet.rpi.edu>
Anyone ever use metalbase on NeXT? How does it work? IS it just an API or
is a full-blown database management system?
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2g9e5j$vl@sgate.com>
Control: cancel <2g9e5j$vl@sgate.com>
Date: 3 Jan 1994 13:52:19 -0500
Organization: Collins International Services Company
Message-ID: <2g9ph3$2fj@sgate.com>
<2g9e5j$vl@sgate.com> was cancelled from within trn.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,andi.misc
From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director)
Subject: PRESS RELEASE: Showcase NeXTSTEP products at Int'l Assn of Jazz
Message-ID: <CJ2FL2.DCM@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Keywords: ANDI,NeXTSTEP,music,IAJE
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 18:05:26 GMT
If "M" means music or midi we want to help you make it equal to
money!
Exhibit at the premiere event for Jazz Educators with ANDI, January
13-15, 1994 in Boston and catch some of the finest music on the
planet in the process. The International Association of Jazz
Educators Convention and Show attract 2500 musicians from around the
world. Join us at the 21st annual Conference. Space is limited to 2
companies in the booth and 1 person per company. Literature
distribution is limited to 10 companies. This offer is extended on a
first-come, first-serve basis.
Participation Costs:
Booth Participation: $500 Members and Non-Members
Literature Distribution:$100 ANDI Members
$200 Non-Members
Included in the cost of the booth are tables and electricity. The
only additional cost you will incur is for your freight. The
deadline for participation is January 12, 1994.
Assistance in finding Hotel accommodations is available upon request.
Make checks payable to ANDI, and mail or overnight to 9921 Woodburn
Road; Silver Spring, MD 20901-2730. Any funds received after space
is sold-out will returned.
We look forward to having you join us for a great show.
Regards,
Bill Strehl
Executive Director
ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
9921 Woodburn Road
Silver Spring, Maryland (MD) 20901-2730
reply to:marketing@andi.org
telephone:301-681-0613
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS 3.1 & 3.0 FOR SALE!
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 94 06:29:59 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2966768590.3.p00378@psilink.com>
I have two versions of NeXTstep OS CDs for sale:
1) - NeXTstep for Intel v3.1 (WHITE HARDWARE)
a. One (1) User CD
b. One (1) Developer CD
Price: $600.00 or OBO
2) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.1 (BLACK HARDWARE)
a. One (1) User CD
b. One (1) Developer CD
Price: $550.00 or OBO
3) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.0 (BLACK HARDWARE)
a. One (1) User CD
b. One (1) Developer CD
Price: $200.00 or OBO
4) - NeXTstep v3.1 Original Hardcopy Documentation
a. One (1): Received at 1993 SF NeXTExpo
Price: $200.00 or OBO
All items above are the full and complete versions. In other words
these are not student, demo or evaluation versions. Also, all CDs may
be registered to the new owner without hassle or apprehension. Prices
do not include shipping which will happen via Federal Express 2nd Day
C.O.D. Thanks.
Peace,
James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: WriteUp - What's Up?
Message-ID: <CJ3yqw.9EH@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 13:56:55 GMT
Is WriteUp available yet?
Is there a demo version somewhere?
Is it MA?
Will it import/export WP/MS Word?
Thanks
-Florian
From: rlion@access2.digex.net (rebel lion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: anyone know of a nifty drawing program
Date: 4 Jan 1994 09:28:36 -0500
Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <rlion.757693688@access2>
References: <rlion.757550918@access3> <CJ19BE.4w8@genoa.com>
alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
>rebel lion writes
>> i have "draw" and Diagram! but i don't really like either of them all that
>> much. so anyone?
>did you try Diagram 2? its a major improvement.
i have v1.1 for nextstep 2.0 (i run 3.2 though)
i'll check out and see if i can upgrade, you think its posible?
--
rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)) (alpha pager: (704) 356-3140)
=-= finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale =-=
void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Postgres Port for NeXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <2DQKBJDR@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 14:59:59 GMT
Hello,
is there a NeXTSTEP Port of Postgres?
I saw it mentioned in a FAQ, but it's
hard to believe, someone really implemented
SYSV shmem on a NeXT.
Anyway, if someone has done the port,
I would be very interested to hear about it.
Thanks, Stephan
p.s. please answer by email. Should there be
answers, I'll love to summarize.
--
trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Message-ID: <bp%@byu.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 14:55:38 MST
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: upgrading to 3.2
References: <2fsu5a$nkt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In article <2fsu5a$nkt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) writes:
> I have upgraded to 3.1 user, and am preparing to upgrade to 3.2 user and
> developer. Do I need to upgrade to 3.1 dev prior to upgrading to 3.2
dev?
No. 3.2 User will delete any developer software on the disk because of
incompatibilities, just like 3.1 user did. Just upgrade right to 3.2 user
and then do 3.2 dev.
Paul M. Cardon
NeXTSTEP and HP System Manager
Math Dept. - Brigham Young University
-----------------------------------------------
pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (NeXTMail) or @laplace.math.byu.edu
or @alaska.et.byu.edu or @darth.byu.edu (NeXTMail)
or figure out how to get me to settle on just one machine.
She was an acrobat's daughter.
She swung by her teeth from a noose.
But a one matinee --
Her bridgework gave way,
And she flew through the air like a goose.
- D. Duck in Daffy Doodles
Message-ID: <cp%@byu.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 15:03:28 MST
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Backspace modules
Has anybody been able to build the BackSpaceViews in
/NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit under 3.2 on NeXT hardware? Most of us
are probably using the ones we built with 3.1, but the makefiles seem to
be fouled up on the 3.2 distribution. I just want to know if it's my copy
of the media or if other people have seen this.
Paul M. Cardon
NeXTSTEP and HP System Manager
Math Dept. - Brigham Young University
-----------------------------------------------
pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (NeXTMail) or @laplace.math.byu.edu
or @alaska.et.byu.edu or @darth.byu.edu (NeXTMail)
or figure out how to get me to settle on just one machine.
She was an acrobat's daughter.
She swung by her teeth from a noose.
But a one matinee --
Her bridgework gave way,
And she flew through the air like a goose.
- D. Duck in Daffy Doodles
From: Rick.Reynolds@3DO.com (Rick Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextstep Doom
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 4 Jan 1994 18:58:11 GMT
Organization: The 3DO Company
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Rick.Reynolds-040194110222@198.211.32.41>
References: <129201@hydra.gatech.EDU>
In article <129201@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (Oberon)
wrote:
>
>
> I had the Doom beta for NEXTSTEP until the dos shareware version came
> out. Has the NEXTSTEP release come out yet? I'd kind of like to migrate
> to that platform.
>
Post info about getting this. I want it too--preferably for black hardware.
Rick Reynolds
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: reid@utstat.toronto.edu (Nancy Reid)
Subject: rz and sz
Message-ID: <CJ4EJ5.HyK@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: U of Toronto Statistics
Distribution: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 19:37:52 GMT
I use rz and sz to transfer files from work to home a vv via modem.
It usually bombs if I try to transfer a largeish TeX file (a few K,
not huge). Anyone else had this problem and a fix?
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Calculator
Message-ID: <1448@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 4 Jan 94 19:11:28 GMT
References: <1994Jan3.200612.636@weston.com>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Wes Spears writes
> I am looking for a MAB calculator. It can be Public Domain or inexpensive
> commercial.
Check out Trilithon Software. They have one that's pretty cool (I think
it's called WYSICalc, but that might have been a workin name). Send them
an Email at: "info@trilithon.com"
--
Glenn Reid glenn@rightbrain.com
Woodside, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam)
Subject: Wanted: Info on Executor
Message-ID: <1994Jan4.204950.13784@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Table Tennis, UW
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 20:49:50 GMT
I'm trying to get my NS/FIP machine to run some of the cool mac apps
that aren't available for NeXT machines, like:
Excel
Word (both relatively non-intensive, i'd assume)
Adobe Photoshop
Quark XPress (both rather [f|c]pu intensive at times)
And i need to decide if it's worth blowing a few hundred on a new hard
disk to use them.
Will Executor let me use the full power of these packages? Ideally,
i'd like them to run as if i were sitting at a Mac; seeing as how this
probably isn't going to happen, i'd like to know what Executor fools
the software into thinking i'm using. Does it tell Photoshop & Quark
that i've got an FPU (albeit non-motorola)? Can i use all the video
weirdness that Photoshop does, which i suspect is specific to the Mac
video hardware?
anyone know?
thanks much,
dan
From: aka@amelie.mit.edu (Alia Atlas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: exec program in new terminal
Date: 4 Jan 1994 21:01:14 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gcleq$gfi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi.
I am trying to write a csh script which will start up several programs,
each in its own window. In X, you can just do "xterm -e command". Is
there a way of doing this in NextStep? Is it possible to also specify a
geometry?
Thank you very much,
Alia Atlas
aka@space.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: PencilMeIn <-> SBook ?!
Message-ID: <CJ4JLB.E2F@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 21:27:10 GMT
Can anybody comment on how and how well PencilMeIn cooperates with the
new/commercial version of SBook also sold by Sarrus Software?
Thanks
-Florian
From: mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextstep Doom
Date: 4 Jan 1994 21:37:39 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gcnj3$hqt@news.UU.NET>
References: <129201@hydra.gatech.EDU> <Rick.Reynolds-040194110222@198.211.32.41>
I too would like info on getting the 'black hardware' version of this. I was
hasty and spent time downloading the whole Intel version without realizing it! I
do recall getting a reply from someone else about this that said ID is working on
it and to expect it "soon".
=====================================================
Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
=====================================================
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: running a network on an intel without ethernet
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 4 Jan 1994 14:59:05 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <2gcor9$d27@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
I have an intel machine running ns/fip 3.2. I want to set up my
machine to run ppp or slip. I don't have an ethernet card. (I don't
think ppp is currently available for ns/fip but I was considering
working on it). How do I configure the machine to be on a network?
As a first step, I thought I would run the simple network starter or
hostmanager and configure my ip address etc.
I ran hostmanager and configured things and when I went to reboot it
hung when configuring devices. It seemed that somehow it was looking
for a network and couldn't find it (I fixed this by copying the
original netinfo files over). I tried SNS and when it was ready to
configure my machine it said "attach network to machine" and click
okay. I had no network so I just clicked okay anyway. It couldn't
find a network (obviously). It said it would hang the machine if I
didn't back out, so I did back out.
Do I need to already have added ppp or slip before enabeling my
machine to be on a network? I use uucp right now on my next cube and
(on the cube) I changed the hostname and that all works well. I wanted
to change the hostname on the intel machine so that uucp's hostname
would be the right one. Since I can't change the hostname of the
machine, I suppose I can change the uucphostname, which if I remember
is some way to tell uucp to report a different name when it tells the
other side it's name.
So, to summarize, do I need to install ppp or slip before setting my machine
to be on a network using the sys admin tools on ns/fip?
thanks,
nick
From: ryan@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS, SoftPC, Netware, and Notes
Date: 4 Jan 1994 17:55:34 -0500
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
Message-ID: <2gcs56INNc4d@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Anybody know which frame type is used by the Netware client under NS
3.2 for the white box? I am trying to install a Lotus Notes client
using the IPX protocol udner SoftPC, and Insignia said that my problem
may be from a frame type mismatch between my NeXT Netware client and
the Novell server. The Notes server's requester is using the lines
"Protocol IPX 8137 Ethernet_II"
"Frame Ethernet_II"
in its NET.CFG file to set the frame type - it seems that 8137 is the
indicating parameter ?? Anyway, I don't know how to check or set the
matching frame type on the NeXT side. I understand that my other choice
is 8035, and that these two numbers somehow correspond to settings for
802.2 and 802.3 frame types.
BTW, I can use the same Netware client, as currently configured, under
SoftPC to mount Netware drives, so it (Netware under SoftPC) sort of
works already, I just can't get Notes to recognize the network configuration,
it keeps bombing out when I try to configure it for the IPX/SPX network.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
thnks
tim
From: theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: lemacs under Cub'X or MouseX
Date: 4 Jan 1994 23:46:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2gcv52$s49@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Has anyone succesfully compiled lemacs under Cub'X or MouseX? If so, could you
e-mail the binaries to me or give me some hints on how to get it to compile?
Thanks.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu
University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu
C.S.L.D. System Administrator (NeXT Mail preferred everywhere!)
From: ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Info on Executor
Message-ID: <CJ4ntz.9uL@cobra.cs.unm.edu>
Date: 4 Jan 94 22:58:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: cobra.CJ4ntz.9uL
References: <1994Jan4.204950.13784@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu
Organization: ARDI
In article <1994Jan4.204950.13784@beaver.cs.washington.edu> fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) writes:
>I'm trying to get my NS/FIP machine to run some of the cool mac apps
>that aren't available for NeXT machines, like:
>
> Excel
> Word (both relatively non-intensive, i'd assume)
>
> Adobe Photoshop
> Quark XPress (both rather [f|c]pu intensive at times)
>
>And i need to decide if it's worth blowing a few hundred on a new hard
>disk to use them.
>
>Will Executor let me use the full power of these packages? Ideally,
>i'd like them to run as if i were sitting at a Mac; seeing as how this
>probably isn't going to happen, i'd like to know what Executor fools
>the software into thinking i'm using. Does it tell Photoshop & Quark
>that i've got an FPU (albeit non-motorola)? Can i use all the video
>weirdness that Photoshop does, which i suspect is specific to the Mac
>video hardware?
Excel 3.0a or greater should run, some large spreadsheets may have
trouble under Executor/NEXTSTEP (E/NS) 1.3, but there should be a new
version on ftp.cs.unm.edu that will do better in that area soon.
Word 4.00E or greater should run.
Neither Photoshop, nor XPress are usable currently. We've spent the
last year porting Executor to NEXTSTEP/Intel, DOS and X-Windows/Alpha,
we are revamping our bug tracking software and will soon get back to
making more apps run *and* make a list of known bugs available via
anonymous ftp and probably via e-mail, as well.
However, *On Intel Machines*, it really makes more sense to run Soft-PC
under NS/FIP and run the Windows versions of programs when they exist.
Executor runs Mac programs on non-68000 machines *much* faster than
Soft-PC runs PC programs on non-Intel machines, but if you already have
an Intel based machine you get the speed win from hardware, and you get
the compatibility win from Windows/DOS from Microsoft, rather than a
clean-room rewrite. Of course that makes Executor much more of a niche
product than before, which is why we had to do the ports mentioned
above...
--Cliff[ord T. Matthews]
Founder, ARDI
ctm@ardi.com
Lucifer Sam -- Sam Cat
From: hndrcksn@ectds.com (Jim Hendrickson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: anyone know of a nifty drawing program
Date: 5 Jan 1994 00:36:39 GMT
Organization: Trident Data Systems
Sender: hndrcksn@1.121.159.165.in-addr.arpa.
Message-ID: <2gd22n$j4m@discovery.ectds.com>
References: <rlion.757550918@access3> <CJ19BE.4w8@genoa.com>
In article <CJ19BE.4w8@genoa.com>
alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> rebel lion writes
> > i have "draw" and Diagram! but i don't really like either of them all that
> > much. so anyone?
>
> did you try Diagram 2? its a major improvement.
> --
I'll 2nd the Diagram2!. Lighthouse also has a Diagram2!Pro which has
more palletes, I think.
My opinions do not necesarily reflect those of Trident Data Systems, or
for that matter, lots of people I know.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: <none>
Message-ID: <1994Jan5.094951.150110@embl-heidelberg.de>
From: grindrod@eagle.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (David Grindrod)
Date: 5 Jan 94 09:49:51 +0100
Distribution: world
Organization: European Molecular Biology Laboratory
Hi,
I have a problem with sending colour A3 postscript files to our kodak
printer/photocopier. Although I can generate the A3 files ok, what I
have problems with is sending the file to the correct tray on the
printer. The default one is the A4 tray. The A3 tray is the lower tray.
I use the AppleLaserwriter IIf filter for the postscript, but there is
no way to specify the optional tray. What I would really like is a
postscript command that I can insert at the top or the bottom of the
postscript file that specifies the lower tray for an Kodak printer.
Also is there a filter that allows the user to specify an optional
tray. I know it is possible to send A3 postscript files through the
mac to the kodak, but I feel I must be able to send it from a unix
machine too. I am no expert in the postscript language so I would appreciate some help if possible.
Thanks for any help in advance
Dave
----------------------------------------------------------------------
David Grindrod NMR System Manager
EMBL, Heidelberg.
Email: grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: A3 postscipt commands for changing default tray.
Message-ID: <1994Jan5.095800.150111@embl-heidelberg.de>
From: grindrod@eagle.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (David Grindrod)
Date: 5 Jan 94 09:57:59 +0100
Distribution: world
Organization: European Molecular Biology Laboratory
Hi,
Soyy about the no subject posting. This is a copy of the original
article in comp.sys.next.sysadmin.
I have a problem with sending colour A3 postscript files to our kodak
printer/photocopier. Although I can generate the A3 files ok, what I
have problems with is sending the file to the correct tray on the
printer. The default one is the A4 tray. The A3 tray is the lower tray.
I use the AppleLaserwriter IIf filter for the postscript, but there is
no way to specify the optional tray. What I would really like is a
postscript command that I can insert at the top or the bottom of the
postscript file that specifies the lower tray for an Kodak printer.
Also is there a filter that allows the user to specify an optional
tray. I know it is possible to send A3 postscript files through the
mac to the kodak, but I feel I must be able to send it from a unix
machine too. I am no expert in the postscript language so I would appreciate some help if possible.
Thanks for any help in advance
Dave
----------------------------------------------------------------------
David Grindrod NMR System Manager
EMBL, Heidelberg.
Email: grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Swap Disk Setup?
Message-ID: <Jan.5.03.48.52.1994.24805@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 5 Jan 94 08:48:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Id like to set up a 100meg HD as a swap disk. Im sure this must be
a FAQ...(aye red face)...but could some one tell me how to do this, or let
me know where this FAQ can be found, or send me the FAQ?
Muchas Gracias in advance.
John (in disk setup hell) Kheit, Later
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 00:11:39 CST
From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <94005.001139U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: anyone know of a nifty drawing program
References: <rlion.757550918@access3>
In article <rlion.757550918@access3>, rlion@access3.digex.net (rebel lion) says:
>
> i have "draw" and Diagram! but i don't really like either of them all that
>much. so anyone?
i would have to say that there is no better paint/draw/design
application (on any platform, but particularly NS) than
virtuoso (soon to be relabeled 'freehand' if the rumors are
correct). lorin rivers (sales at altsys - creators of virtuoso)
is a frequent contributor to the c.s.n groups (and an all-around
good guy) - hopefully he'll latch on to this thread and shed a
little light on the happenings surrounding the future of
virtuoso/freehand.
create, from stone design, is another drawing package worth
mentioning. stone has recently released a new version (2.0)
of create, but i haven't had a chance to play with it yet.
create (from my experience) is a little less 'professional'
than virtuoso, but is capable of some very interesting
effects that only andrew stone could bring us.
-tom nawara
nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
ideaLABS
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 00:51:10 CST
From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <94005.005110U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Presto/Sequence
References: <2g52iu$cjt@panix.com> <1994Jan2.044207.8238@math.ucla.edu>
In article <1994Jan2.044207.8238@math.ucla.edu>, scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S.
Port) says:
>
>I contacted Pinnacle about Presto (aka Sequence)
>in December. They don't accept credit cards,
>and wanted a few weeks for check clearance. I
>have the demo - Presto v0.9.6b - which is quite
v0.9.6b is now over 1 year old. v0.9.7b was supposed to be released
right after NeXTWORLD EXPO, but i have yet to see it.
i'm am typically a calm person, but i paid for this product almost
2 years ago!!! there has been one excuse after another.
>robust, works with standard cables to my Midi
>Time Piece II, and my Kurzweil K-2000. The demo
>(ftp cs.orst.edu) is crippled only in various save
>functions. I believe a key makes the demo full-
>functioning but I'm not sure. There is no manual
>to my knowledge.
a manual has not yet been released, but there is a quite detailed
help system on-line.
>The writers of Presto seem hemmed in by the fact
>that they can't release *version 1* until all of
>their original plans are fully coded and functioning,
>a sort of benign procrastination syndrome, since it
>doesn't affect the end user whether the nth detail
>of their original plan works or not (my opinion).
i know NeXT shifted its focus, and i know Pinnacle is busy working
on other products, but this has to be resolved. Pinnacle, please
make good on this product - it is (was?) so very promising.
-tom nawara
nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
ideaLABS
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sybase dbLib problem?
Date: 5 Jan 1994 09:00 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5JAN199409000633@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Hi. I'm running ParcPlace System's VisualWorks on my NeXT running NS/Moto
3.2. VisualWorks receives but does not capture a trigger-based
RAISERROR - i.e. dbsqlok() does not return a FAIL. This strictly
single-command SQL. I using dbLib 4.6 and have the same problem regardless
of the Sybase engine I access (4.0 or 4.9). Mesa traps the error; but it
might be using dbLib 4.2. Any advice on this matter will be greatly
appreciated.
Don McCollam
citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: querijero@i7140a.nrl.navy.mil (Michelle Querijero)
Subject: Image processing software?
Message-ID: <CJ5zBu.KAn@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: United States Naval Research Laboratory
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 16:04:41 GMT
I'm new to the Next, but I have been assigned the task of
obtaining image processing software that can identify
edges. I need to be able to input an image of bubbles
and obtain the dimensions of the bubbles. Could anyone give
me any hints on where I might find something like this?
Please e-mail me at querijero@abyss.nrl.navy.mil.
Thanks in advance!
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PSI NRL Code 7140
Bldg. 1, Rm 113
Internet: querijero@abyss.nrl.navy.mil
My opinions are my own, unless you happen to share them.
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From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt)
Subject: New Terminal Program
Message-ID: <1994Jan5.073006.761@drefla.mese.com>
Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com
Organization: Applied Engineering
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 07:30:06 GMT
I have posted a terminal emulation program I have been working on to
cs.orst.edu. It is in /pub/next/submissions/Modulator.compressed. It has been
compiled fat but is untested on intel systems. This thing is definitely at an
early alpha stage, the vt100 emulation is kind of lame and there are a few
other inconsistancies. It will be released as shareware but right now I am more
interested in getting feedback on what changes people would like to see in the
overall structure and function. Give it a look and let me know what you think.
matt
--
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Matt Brandt | A short .sig
matt@drefla.mese.com | is a good .sig
From: mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New Terminal Program
Date: 5 Jan 1994 16:34:31 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2geq6n$5g0@news.UU.NET>
References: <1994Jan5.073006.761@drefla.mese.com>
If you have a 'black' version, I'd help test it out for you...
Matt Brandt writes>
I have posted a terminal emulation program I have been working on to
cs.orst.edu. It is in /pub/next/submissions/Modulator.compressed. It has been
compiled fat but is untested on intel systems. This thing is definitely at an
early alpha stage, the vt100 emulation is kind of lame and there are a few
other inconsistancies. It will be released as shareware but right now I am more
interested in getting feedback on what changes people would like to see in the
overall structure and function. Give it a look and let me know what you think.
matt
--
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Matt Brandt | A short .sig
matt@drefla.mese.com | is a good .sig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: PencilMeIn <-> SBook ?!
Message-ID: <CJ5wto.M74@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <CJ4JLB.E2F@eunet.ch>
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 15:10:35 GMT
Florian Gutzwiller writes
| Can anybody comment on how and how well PencilMeIn cooperates with the
| new/commercial version of SBook also sold by Sarrus Software?
I used to use the demo version of Simson Garfinkel's SBook, Version 2.0, but I
don't think it had all the features that the Sarrus version now has.
According to the Help in PencilMeIn Version 1.1, coordination between the
applications consists dragging one of SBook's icons (phone, address, e-mail)
into PMI as an appointment or action item. The ASCII text will become the
title of the PMI "event".
Can't say that I've used this feature, since I don't have the Sarrus version of
SBook. I can say that PencilMeIn performs screen updates very slowly on both
NeXTcube and NeXTdimension systems. Enough that it makes the program a real
pain to use. By subjective comparison, I found the old Solitaire application
slow, but more usable than PMI, while the new MCSolitaire demo is blindingly
fast (albeit with smaller card images).
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: johnr@ms.uky.edu (John S. Roberts Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP Server for NS3.2?
Message-ID: <2geu7n$4hl@s.ms.uky.edu>
Date: 5 Jan 94 17:43:19 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
I need a server to allow slip connections for a 3.2 box.
Thanks,
John
--
-=+ John S. Roberts, Jr. 100 McVey Hall Work: 257-2275 +=-
-=+ University of Kentucky Home: 272-1417 - FAX: 272-7105 +=-
From: 1hschulz@rzdspc21.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: problem with TickleServices
Date: 5 Jan 94 18:18:30 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Message-ID: <1hschulz.757793910@rzdspc21>
Hi,
I just got TickleServices1.02 (for NS3.0) from the archive and
installed it in /LocalApps.
My problem: on login the message
'TickleService: can't find workspace'
shows up on the console and the workspace-services
(eg 'open in edit') don't work.
Heiko Schulz
Email> 1hschulz@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (no NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sam@talus.com (Semyon Sosin)
Subject: Communications program
Message-ID: <1994Jan5.073729.715@talus.com>
Sender: sam@talus.com
Organization: Talus Corporation
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 07:37:29 GMT
Hello everybody,
Is there good public-domain communication software exists? I need VT100 and
ANSI term emulation plus Z-modem transfer and dialing directory. I have IComm,
but it doesn't work properly under Black 3.1.
Any help will be appreciated,
Rgds,
--
Semyon Sosin Talus Imaging Corp. - Houston Bureau
<sam@talus.com> (NeXT mail accepted)
ph: (713)561-0700 10602 Chapel Hill Dr. Houston Tx. 77099
From: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backspace modules
Date: 5 Jan 1994 18:36:03 GMT
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech
Message-ID: <2gf1aj$bcf@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <cp%@byu.edu>
In article <cp%@byu.edu>,
Paul Marshall Cardon II <pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu> wrote:
>Has anybody been able to build the BackSpaceViews in
>/NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit under 3.2 on NeXT hardware? Most of us
>are probably using the ones we built with 3.1, but the makefiles seem to
>be fouled up on the 3.2 distribution. I just want to know if it's my copy
>
Yeah, I built them on Intel hardware. I did have to make a small change
to the makefiles (I don't remember what it was off the top of my head, but
I could look and post the changes after I go home if someone wants them).
--
Timothy Buck timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu ------------------------
TimothyB@online.apple.com "I take Him shopping with me. I say, 'OK, Jesus,
rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu help me find a bargain'." -- Tammie Faye Bakker
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tektronics (graphics) terminal emulation for the NeXT??
Date: 5 Jan 1994 19:34:17 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2gf4np$hb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
I was wondering if --- without getting X windows --- there is some
terminal emulator for viewing graphics while telnetting to a foreign host, such
as tektronics.
Sincerely,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Subject: DOOM
Message-ID: <1994Jan5.193725.730@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 19:37:25 GMT
For those of you who don't read alt.games.doom, just saw this:
From: cpw8034@summa.tamu.edu (Alan Wen (409)696-8909)
Subject: Visted id Software in Dallas and got registered version of DOOM
Organization: Texas A&M University OpenVMScluster
Lines: 35
Well I got tired of waiting for my registered xmas gift of DOOM to come
in so we drove 3.5 hours from Houston to Dallas, Texas to get a copy
from DOOM hq. It's located in a black office building (figures!).
Once inside, you see a shelf full of id software products and a wall of
awards for stuff like wolf3d, etc. and a pretty cool ad for DOOM. It said
something to the effect of "have an exciting summer.... Go to Hell!". I
didn't get to ask, but I wonder if that's the promo they're going to be
using for the full 6-level commercial release to be sold in stores about
six months from now?
The office suite was made up of only small commons area with a conference
room (role playing games and posters on table and wall *grin*), CEO office
(I guess), tech support room, and a pretty dark room with a buncho black
NeXT's and large monitors. All in all a VERY small place. The fact that
it's so small impresses the hell out of me. It shows that it only takes a
handful of talented individuals to put in some hard work and produce a
great product.
Like most people have said about the registered version of DOOM, it's
packaged incredibly nice for a direct-only game. Great box and a pretty
nice manual detailing objects and enemies in color screen shots. It can't
be stressed enough that if you even slightly liked the shareware version,
you'd drool over this one. BUY IT!!!
Oh, speaking on buying DOOM. If you know anyone that's selling the
shareware
version (1st episode only) for anything more than a few bucks, call id and
let them know. There are folks that are selling the free shareware DOOM
for $12 plus + and are making a killing without giving anything to id.
Call id up or drop them email so that we can expect more great stuff from
these guys.
bravo again to id!
alan
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: modems with NXFax
Message-ID: <1994Jan5.205355.649@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 20:53:55 GMT
Which modems are supported by NXFax software. I tried emailing B&W
Software, but they never replied. I know that ZyXel and Supra work. How
about USR or Intel?
Thanks in advance for the info.
--
Bradley Head
Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted)
604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: RTF Browser/Locator
Date: 5 Jan 1994 21:22:38 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gfb2u$516@cnn.sim.es.com>
Anybody know of an app for the Sun that is similar to "Digital Librarian"
on the NeXT?
(For the Sun guys that don't know what Digital Librarian does, it's
basically a graphical "grep" with a smattering of GNU's TexInfo (except
with automatic hyperlinking), in an engine capable of simultaneously
supporting a half dozen or so different file formats--I'm basically
interested in RTF support on the Sun, though).
Nevin
From: qtmc@villon.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Babak Nivi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any mpeg viewers for the NeXT/NextStep?
Date: 5 Jan 1994 21:31:46 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gfbk2$535@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2g7nrj$u0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2g7nrj$u0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed
Zalta) writes:
> Can anyone please tell me whether there are any NeXT applications that
> will read and display mpeg files?
> Thank you.
> Ed
MPEG Play is currently at version 2.6 and can be found on cs.orst.edu in
/pub/next/binaries/screen as MPEGPlay2.6.FAT.tar.Z
--
Babak Nivi
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
babak.nivi@umich.edu
From: qtmc@villon.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Babak Nivi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mpeg
Date: 5 Jan 1994 21:35:12 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gfbqg$5ao@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Does anyone know where to find mpegs?
--
Babak Nivi
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
babak.nivi@umich.edu
From: pedja@cs.umd.edu (& Bogdanovich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Communications program
Date: 05 Jan 1994 21:48:02 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <PEDJA.94Jan5164802@midgard.cs.umd.edu>
References: <1994Jan5.073729.715@talus.com>
In-reply-to: sam@talus.com's message of Wed, 5 Jan 1994 07:37:29 GMT
In article <1994Jan5.073729.715@talus.com> sam@talus.com (Semyon Sosin) writes:
>Is there good public-domain communication software exists? I need VT100 and
>ANSI term emulation plus Z-modem transfer and dialing directory. I have IComm,
>but it doesn't work properly under Black 3.1.
>Any help will be appreciated,
Check out TipTop. Cheers. Pedja
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
TipTop is a telecommunication program. TipTop version 0.93 works on
black NeXTSTEP 3.1 and 3.0. Motorola version is available by FTP from
cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/comm. If you want to run TipTop under
NS3.0, you need to get `TipTop_0.93_for_3.0.compressed' package.
Intel version is also available! To obtain a copy, send an email
message to <pedja@umiacs.umd.edu> with subject line "send tiptop intel".
You will receive an email message ~285K which contains uuencoded
TipTop/FIP.
TipTop is shareware. You are welcome to download it and try it.
If you use it you should register yourself. Educational license
fee is $25. Non-educational license fee is $35. Until you register,
TipTop will quit after 12-15 minutes of usage. For more info see the
License section in Info->Help.
You may also want to fetch TipTop-goodies.compressed package
which contains executable code for term, term clients, NcFTP,
Expect, and associated documentation.
Send your questions and comments to Pedja Bogdanovich at:
<pedja%luka@umiacs.umd.edu> (note that this is not the same as
the mail-server address!)
Features
========
- VT102 terminal emulation.
- Terminal window features scrollback buffer, find panel,
changeable fonts (font panel), copy/paste, etc. I.e.,
everything that you expect from a NeXT app (including
resizable terminal window)!
- A simple PhoneBook.
- Transfer: ZMODEM send and receive, and ASCII capture.
- TipTop uses UUCP locking protocol.
- TipTop can run external programs such as sx/sb/sz/rx/rb/rz,
term, expect, etc.
+ Running term in TipTop lets you run a SLIP-like connection to a
remote site. You can have several terminal sessions connected
to a remote site, while transfering files, and executing
remote commands at the same time. (You can even run remote
X-window clients connected to your local X-server.)
Installation
============
1. Copy TipTop.app into your favorite application directory (e.g.,
/LocalApps).
2. su to root and:
chown uucp.daemon /LocalApps/TipTop.app/TipTop
chmod u+s,g+s /LocalApps/TipTop.app/TipTop
(Replace /LocalApps by the the actual directory path in which
you installed the program.)
3. Run the program.
If you don't want to run TipTop as set-uid uucp.daemon, you can change
the permissions for the cu port(s) directly. Instead of step 2 above
do the following:
2'. su to root and:
chmod ugo+rw /dev/cu*
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mpeg
Date: 5 Jan 1994 23:18:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gfhs3$qqn@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2gfbqg$5ao@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Babak Nivi writes
> Does anyone know where to find mpegs?
try alt.binaries.pictures.misc; someone posted mpegs of the Hubble
rescue mission recently (they might have expired, though; this was
before xmas).
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rob@brewster.demon.co.uk (Rob Heyes)
Subject: Re: SLIP Server for NS3.2?
References: <2geu7n$4hl@s.ms.uky.edu>
Organization: Kallisti Systems
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 00:39:22 +0000
Message-ID: <757841962snx@brewster.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <2geu7n$4hl@s.ms.uky.edu> johnr@ms.uky.edu (John S. Roberts Jr.) writes:
> I need a server to allow slip connections for a 3.2 box.
Try TransSys-PNI-1.6-beta on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/binaries/????
Rob Heyes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung)
Subject: Re: Softpc (with windows?) doesn't do windows.
Message-ID: <1994Jan6.040158.17035@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1994Jan3.185615.14653@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 04:01:58 GMT
While we're on the subject of SoftPC, has anyone successfully run
Improv under SoftPC? Everything seems to work fine until you try to
resize a row or column, and then everything just freezes.
Any Ideas?
---
Kenny Leung
University of Alberta
kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca
Ph: 403-492-9343
Fax: 403-492-1729
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From: millerm@darkwing.ECE.ORST.EDU (Mike Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP Server for NS3.2?
Date: 6 Jan 1994 05:48:09 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
Message-ID: <2gg8mpINNld4@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
References: <757841962snx@brewster.demon.co.uk>
> > I need a server to allow slip connections for a 3.2 box.
> Try TransSys-PNI-1.6-beta on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/binaries/????
/pub/next/binaries/comm/
--
millerm@skie.ece.orst.edu(Mike Miller) *NeXTMail OK*
ECE Support, Caretaker of the NeXT FTP site at cs.orst.edu
From: claspac@barber.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Address Book Data Base ~/Library/Addresses/Numbers.addresses
Date: 6 Jan 1994 06:52:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <2ggcff$ida@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Over the years I have tried several easy but not totally integrated
techniques for storing Names/Fax/Voice/E-mail/Phys-mail addresses.
Seems like the NeXT folks made a tiny stab at trying to integrate
this task into several apps (Fax panel/NeXT-MAIL)
but didn't provide any tools for easily adding to the that same
data base, printing labels, or doing any of the other
things people like to do with addresses.
Maybe I just missed something obvious, but it seems that the
only App-style mechanism for adding addresses to the address
book is to pretend to FAX them something and add them in the
FAX panel, then edit the other attributes using the workspace
inspector. Sort of Kludgy huh?
Does anyone know of applications or services or loadable workspace
nibs or something that does more with addresses and the address
book?
If I don't get any response, I was thinking of working on
an app that would offer some "address" style services and
a mechanism for editing, sorting and such.
This seems so obvious that I can't quite belive that it hasn't
been done. What about DBKit apps that do this for sybase
databases but which could be re-written to use an ascii back-end
which would mesh with the scheme the workspace uses for Numbers.addresses?
--
Name: Will Russell
E-mail: claspac@cats.ucsc.edu
Voice: 408-459-2060
FAX: 408-429-0146
From: babylon@mindvox.phantom.com (Sinnthetik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: configuration
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 94 02:02:48 EST
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <DRyPFc3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Keywords: config
Originator: babylon@mindvox
Subject: NeXT Intel config
From: babylon (Sinnthetik)
Message-ID: <1a6Dec1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 06:19:23 EST
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Well I just got NeXT intel user/developer and want to do a custom config
for my system. Here is my idea: I want to use NeXT, SunOS 4.0 and
Dos/windoze on my pc. I have a DECpc 466d2 MTE,
32meg RAM
345meg Maxtor SCSI HD
2 540meg Maxtor SCSI-2 HD
Toshiba 3401 CD-Rom
Fujitsu 2511 128meg M/O drive
I currently have PC DOS 6.0 and Windoze 3.1 on the 345meg as HD C:,
the CD-Rom is drive E:, the M/O is drive D:.
I would like to reconfigure the system so at boot I can go to any of the
OS's. I plan to put NeXTSTEP on 1 of the 540megs, and SunOS 4.0 on the
other 540meg.
Here is the problem. NeXT says in the manual that NeXTSTEP needs to be on
the boot hardrive, and cannot boot form a floppy. It does however mention
in the book about leaving space on the HD for other OS's on other
partitions. If any one can give some ideas for getting this all together
let me know. I will probably be working on it all weekend.
babylon.
babylon@mindvox.phantom.com
jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu
babylon
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Current SLIP for NSFIP 3.2?
Date: 5 Jan 1994 10:16:15 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2ge0gv$147@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1994Jan3.105456.7955@nic.csu.net>
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djasper@odie.santarosa.edu (Dane Jasper) writes:
>Where can I find the current version of SLIP for NSFIP?? I ftped one version
>and it was for 2.0/2.1!! gack.. Thanks for any pointers, and email is
>appreciated..
Look for TransSys-PNI 1.6 beta (on cs.orst.edu or elsewhere).
Beta, but it just works, for black and white hardware.
Regards,
Markus.
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-----
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IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Address Book Data Base ~/Library/Addresses/Numbers.addresses
Date: 6 Jan 1994 07:11:46 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2ggdji$1no@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2ggcff$ida@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Jas-Russell writes
> Maybe I just missed something obvious, but it seems that the
> only App-style mechanism for adding addresses to the address
> book is to pretend to FAX them something and add them in the
> FAX panel, then edit the other attributes using the workspace
> inspector. Sort of Kludgy huh?
Check out InTouch. It stores its data in .address format.
--
-
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery)
Subject: Re: exec program in new terminal
Message-ID: <1994Jan6.074418.7588@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <2gcleq$gfi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 07:44:18 GMT
In article <2gcleq$gfi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
aka@amelie.mit.edu (Alia Atlas) writes:
-> Hi.
->
-> I am trying to write a csh script which will start up
-> several programs, each in its own window. In X, you
-> can just do "xterm -e command". Is there a way of doing
-> this in NextStep? Is it possible to also specify a
-> geometry?
Yep, hand saved Terminal.app settings to the /usr/bin/open
command. It'll zap open saved settings terminal window for
each ".term" file it's handed.
Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Swap Disk Setup?
Message-ID: <Jan.6.03.54.20.1994.7459@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 6 Jan 94 08:54:20 GMT
References: <Jan.5.03.48.52.1994.24805@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>Hi All,
> Id like to set up a 100meg HD as a swap disk. Im sure this must be
>a FAQ...(aye red face)...but could some one tell me how to do this, or let
>me know where this FAQ can be found, or send me the FAQ?
Well after a bit of snooping inside of Buildisk's wrapper I came
across a file of alert strings that held the answer. To get BuildDisk.app to
make you a swap disk you just have to name the drive you are about to build
"swapdisk". The only weird thing is with my 100meg swap disk, the swap file
will only grow to about 26megs and then switch over to my main 1gig drive?!?
It leaves about 65 megs on the swapdisk unused? What gives? Further, if I
enable swaptimization i.e. compression, the machine will hang when it reaches
the 26meg mark on the swap disk?!? I have my low mark set at 16meg and the
high mark at 90meg. The swap disk has compression, and priority set.
Too funkey...but if you dont enable swaptimization, things seem to work fine,
although the swapdisk is only 25% utilized.
Later, John
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From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne)
Subject: Re: Any mpeg viewers for the NeXT/NextStep?
Message-ID: <1994Jan6.152406.25562@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <2gfbk2$535@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 15:24:06 GMT
In article <2gfbk2$535@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
qtmc@villon.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Babak Nivi) writes:
> In article <2g7nrj$u0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed
> Zalta) writes:
> > Can anyone please tell me whether there are any NeXT applications that
> > will read and display mpeg files?
> > Thank you.
> > Ed
>
> MPEG Play is currently at version 2.6 and can be found on cs.orst.edu in
> /pub/next/binaries/screen as MPEGPlay2.6.FAT.tar.Z
> --
>
>
> Babak Nivi
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
>
> babak.nivi@umich.edu
MPEGPlay is exceedingly slow, wastes memory, and is generally useless for
playing movies. It is so slow that the movies tend to play at one or two frames
per second, and is unable to play at full speed. A much, much better mpeg
player is Movie.app, which plays at full speed, doesn't fill up your disk, and
is also available on cs.orst.edu.
--
Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu
"With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain."
Friedrich von Schiller
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tektronics (graphics) terminal emulation for the NeXT??
Date: 6 Jan 1994 09:23:42 -0600
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc
Message-ID: <2ghadu$acr@valinor.cubetech.com>
References: <2gf4np$hb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <2gf4np$hb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes:
>Hi,
>
> I was wondering if --- without getting X windows --- there is some
>terminal emulator for viewing graphics while telnetting to a foreign host, such
>as tektronics.
Cables from Yrrid does Tektronics 4010 and 4014 emulation, along with
vt102/320, PC ANSI, VT52, D211, TTY, and 3270 and lots of other cool
stuff. yrrid@world.std.com...
andrew
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From: gopher2@bcarh530.bnr.ca (Avril Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any mpeg viewers for the NeXT/NextStep?
Date: 6 Jan 1994 15:56:03 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
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References: <2gfbk2$535@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Jan6.152406.25562@cs.yale.edu>
In article <1994Jan6.152406.25562@cs.yale.edu>, jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) writes:
|> In article <2gfbk2$535@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
|> qtmc@villon.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Babak Nivi) writes:
|> > In article <2g7nrj$u0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed
|> > Zalta) writes:
|> > > Can anyone please tell me whether there are any NeXT applications that
|> > > will read and display mpeg files?
|> > > Thank you.
|> > > Ed
|> >
|> > MPEG Play is currently at version 2.6 and can be found on cs.orst.edu in
|> > /pub/next/binaries/screen as MPEGPlay2.6.FAT.tar.Z
|> > --
|> >
|> >
|> > Babak Nivi
|> > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
|> >
|> > babak.nivi@umich.edu
|>
|> MPEGPlay is exceedingly slow, wastes memory, and is generally useless for
|> playing movies. It is so slow that the movies tend to play at one or two
|> frames per second, and is unable to play at full speed.
True. I'll bet it works well on that Dimension with 88 Megs of RAM mentioned
in the info file, though.
|> A much, much better mpeg
|> player is Movie.app, which plays at full speed, doesn't fill up your disk,
|> and is also available on cs.orst.edu.
I thought that Movie.app only played .anim files? At least the copy I have
is limited to that. Is there a new version out, or am I thinking of some
other app?
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From: mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Swap Disk Setup?
Date: 6 Jan 1994 16:08:21 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
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References: <Jan.5.03.48.52.1994.24805@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <Jan.6.03.54.20.1994.7459@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Speaking of swap disks, is it normal for my swap to grow and grow and never
to get any smaller? It's running NS3.0...
=====================================================
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From: rick@bandw.com
Subject: Re: modems with NXFax
Message-ID: <1994Jan6.142538.4013@bandw.com>
Organization: Black & White Software
References: <1994Jan5.205355.649@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 94 14:25:38 GMT
In article <1994Jan5.205355.649@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>
>Which modems are supported by NXFax software. I tried emailing B&W
>Software, but they never replied. I know that ZyXel and Supra work. How
>about USR or Intel?
>
>Thanks in advance for the info.
>--
>Bradley Head
>Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
>brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted)
>604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
Brad,
We apologize if we did not reply to you right away, I'm not sure how your mail was overlooked.
We expect to be announcing our next release of NXFax for Intel in the next day or so. That announcement will go to all current customers and will also be posted to comp.sys.next.announce, and will include a list of all modems tested with the new version.
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From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg)
Subject: Re: Softpc (with windows?) doesn't do windows.
Message-ID: <stivCJ7yKp.A51@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2g998n$9bs@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 17:43:35 GMT
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) writes:
>Hi,
>I just loaded NSI 3.2 onto my machine. The softpc with windows
>doesn't seem to be working properly. When I start it (double click
>on its Icon), it comes up in DOS text mode-- no windows. Further,
>there is no windows subdirectory in the DOS filesystem, and no
>indication of how to start up windows (typing "win" doesn't work).
>I can't find a solution to my problem in the softpc online help.
>Can anyone straighten me out? THanks.
There could be several reasons for this to happen, rather than type em out
here, give us a call at (415) 694-7694 and we can get it working for you. It
sounds like you didn't click the windows buttn during hard disk creation time.
Stiv
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From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: problem with TickleServices
Date: 6 Jan 94 11:46:16
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.94Jan6114616@nic.gac.edu>
References: <1hschulz.757793910@rzdspc21>
In-reply-to: 1hschulz@rzdspc21.informatik.uni-hamburg.de's message of 5 Jan 94 18:18:30 GMT
In article <1hschulz.757793910@rzdspc21>,
1hschulz@rzdspc21.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) writes:
>I just got TickleServices1.02 (for NS3.0) from the archive and
>installed it in /LocalApps.
>My problem: on login the message
>'TickleService: can't find workspace'
>shows up on the console and the workspace-services
>(eg 'open in edit') don't work.
These are two separate problems. Well, they might not be, but the
one does _not_ cause the other. The "can't find workspace" message
is somehow related to how NeXT modified Speaker/Listener for NS3.0
to support better security. I thought I had worked around it, but
it seems I didn't. But, the important point is that the problem
this message indicates is _not_ related to normal functioning of
the server. Instead, it affects the operation-in-extremis. The
code in question was attempting to detect when the Workspace exitted
abnormally (ie, a crash) and cause the daemon to exit, too (since
a Services daemon without a Workspace is a sad thing indeed).
The "Open in Edit" problem isn't due to TickleServices. That
problem is because the "Open in Edit" service uses the /usr/bin/open
command, which has been broken under NS3.x. It will work if you
turn on Public Window Server in Preferences.app. [[Note that I do
not _recommend_ this, especially if you're on a network. I'm just
saying that that will make it work.]] The other Workspace/* services
should work fine, though ... well, ok, since "Launch Apps..." also
makes use of /usr/bin/open, it might not work right without Public
Window Server, either.
Let me know if you have further problems,
--
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From: johnr@ms.uky.edu (John S. Roberts Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP Server for NS3.2?
Date: 6 Jan 1994 13:58:55 -0500
Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Message-ID: <2ghn1f$lom@s.ms.uky.edu>
References: <757841962snx@brewster.demon.co.uk> <2gg8mpINNld4@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
millerm@darkwing.ECE.ORST.EDU (Mike Miller) writes:
>> > I need a server to allow slip connections for a 3.2 box.
>> Try TransSys-PNI-1.6-beta on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/binaries/????
>/pub/next/binaries/comm/
>--
>millerm@skie.ece.orst.edu(Mike Miller) *NeXTMail OK*
>ECE Support, Caretaker of the NeXT FTP site at cs.orst.edu
I looked at it, but from what I can tell it is a client. Does anyone know
if a server application that supports slip?
Thanks,
John
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From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Swap Disk Setup?
Date: 06 Jan 1994 20:34:59 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
Message-ID: <SOWA.94Jan6123459@amdew.llnl.gov>
References: <Jan.5.03.48.52.1994.24805@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
<Jan.6.03.54.20.1994.7459@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In-reply-to: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 6 Jan 94 08:54:20 GMT
>>>>> "John" == John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> writes:
John> to make you a swap disk you just have to name the
John> drive you are about to build "swapdisk". The only weird thing is
John> with my 100meg swap disk, the swap file will only grow to about
John> 26megs and then switch over to my main 1gig drive?!? It leaves
John> about 65 megs on the swapdisk unused? What gives?
To fix this to your satisfaction, modify the appropriate line in
/etc/swaptab. Note that in this configuration /tmp lives on your
swapdisk, so leave some headroom for that.
--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
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From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Subject: Re: enTar bombs on Jan 1, 1994 ???
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <CJ88CB.As4@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 21:14:35 GMT
References: <2ga3pm$qa@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
>stuff about enTar bombing as of jan 1<
mine did the same. i had already gotten the new version
of it but had not installed it to my LocalApps. i did that,
entered my same license key and away it went.
i like enTar and would recommend it to others but do agree
that this end-o-the-year thing with the old version was
lame.
for what it's worth...
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Objective-C books?
Date: 6 Jan 1994 15:49:53 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401062151.AA18880@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
> This is from NeXTAnswers (objc.482)...
> Can anyone reccomend any Objective-C books for NeXT and non-NeXT
> development? Thanks!
>
7 Object Oriented Programming: An Evolutionary Approach (2nd Ed.)
Brad Cox & Andrew Novobilski
Addison-Wesley, 1991.
ISBN 0-201-54834-8
7 Objective-C : Object-Oriented Programming Techniques
Lewis J. Pinson, Richard S. Wiener
Addison-Wesley, 1991.
ISBN 0-201-50828-1
These are both a bit dated, but Pinson & Wiener is probably of
particular interest to you if you want to compare NeXT's Obj-C with
Stepstone's, since that's what the book does!
Apart from that, I find the on-line documentation excellent.
There's also NeXT's:
Object-oriented programming and the Objective-C language
Addison-Wesley, 1993
This is a bit too much of a manifesto for the League of Object-Oriented
programmers for my liking to be honest, but it is particularly useful
for beginners, and others like it a lot more than me! :-)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Swap Disk Setup?
Date: 06 Jan 1994 22:01:25 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
Message-ID: <SOWA.94Jan6140125@amdew.llnl.gov>
References: <Jan.5.03.48.52.1994.24805@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
<Jan.6.03.54.20.1994.7459@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
<SOWA.94Jan6123459@amdew.llnl.gov>
In-reply-to: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov's message of 06 Jan 1994 20:34:59 GMT
>>>>> "Erik" == Erik C Sowa <sowa@amdew.llnl.gov> writes:
>>>>> "John" == John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> writes:
John> to make you a swap disk you just have to name the drive you are
John> about to build "swapdisk". The only weird thing is with my 100meg
John> swap disk, the swap file will only grow to about 26megs and then
John> switch over to my main 1gig drive?!? It leaves about 65 megs on
John> the swapdisk unused? What gives?
Erik> To fix this to your satisfaction, modify the appropriate line in
Erik> /etc/swaptab. Note that in this configuration /tmp lives on your
Erik> swapdisk, so leave some headroom for that.
Whoops! The relevant line is in /etc/rc.swap, not /etc/swaptab. Search
on "hiwat" to find the right place. Sorry for the misinformation.
--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
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From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: anyone know of a nifty drawing program
Message-ID: <1994Jan6.222200.11192@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <rlion.757550918@access3> <94005.001139U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 22:22:00 GMT
In article <94005.001139U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <rlion.757550918@access3>, rlion@access3.digex.net (rebel lion) says:
>>
>> i have "draw" and Diagram! but i don't really like either of them all that
>>much. so anyone?
>
>
>i would have to say that there is no better paint/draw/design
>application (on any platform, but particularly NS) than
>virtuoso (soon to be relabeled 'freehand' if the rumors are
>correct). lorin rivers (sales at altsys - creators of virtuoso)
>is a frequent contributor to the c.s.n groups (and an all-around
>good guy) - hopefully he'll latch on to this thread and shed a
>little light on the happenings surrounding the future of
>virtuoso/freehand.
>
>create, from stone design, is another drawing package worth
>mentioning. stone has recently released a new version (2.0)
>of create, but i haven't had a chance to play with it yet.
>create (from my experience) is a little less 'professional'
>than virtuoso, but is capable of some very interesting
>effects that only andrew stone could bring us.
>
>
>
>-tom nawara
> nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
> ideaLABS
Thanks for the kudos, Tom. As the latest NeXTWORLD Lt. Sullivan says,
this transformation is in the works. I'm really excited to have the
FreeHand name behind this truly great product. Altsys will continue to
be responsible for the day-to-day operations of supporting and selling
FreeHand NEXTSTEP. Look for great things coming from this
relationship!
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Swap Disk Setup?
Message-ID: <1994Jan6.201543.9696@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2ghd1l$rhd@news.UU.NET>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 20:15:43 GMT
In article <2ghd1l$rhd@news.UU.NET> mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
writes:
> Speaking of swap disks, is it normal for my swap to grow and grow and
never
> to get any smaller? It's running NS3.0...
It is if you never reboot. Otherwise, not.
Paul
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From: flash!jon@dsi.com
Subject: Backdrop software
Message-ID: <CJ8I18.Gu@dsinc!flash>
Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry)
Organization: Who Needs It?
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 00:43:55 GMT
Are there any newer apps which can put images in the Workspace background the
way Scene used to? (I know that Scene still works with EPS images, I want
something that works with tiffs.)
Thanks!
Jon Hendry
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From: rob@brewster.demon.co.uk (Rob Heyes)
Subject: Re: SLIP Server for NS3.2?
References: <757841962snx@brewster.demon.co.uk> <2gg8mpINNld4@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> <2ghn1f$lom@s.ms.uky.edu>
Organization: Kallisti Systems
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 02:30:00 +0000
Message-ID: <757935000snx@brewster.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <2ghn1f$lom@s.ms.uky.edu> johnr@ms.uky.edu (John S. Roberts Jr.) writes:
> I looked at it, but from what I can tell it is a client. Does anyone know
> if a server application that supports slip?
I've just looked through the docs of PNI and it appears that it is possible
to start pnid with a -s flag which is supposed to make it operate as a
server.
I'd suggest that you mail Louis Mamakos (the author) as louis@TransSys.COM
(I think that's right - it's in one of the readme files anyway) for more
information about using it as a server - e.g. making sure the server code has
been implemented. I'm sure he'd be delighted to have someone to help test
that part of the code :-)
The client part certainly works fine.
Rob Heyes
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS v3.2, v3.1 & v3.0 For SALE!!! ... REDUCED!!!
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 94 21:59:17 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2966997422.1.p00378@psilink.com>
I have three (3) versions of NeXTstep OS CDs for sale:
0) - NeXTstep for Intel v3.2
a. One (1) User CD
b. One (1) Developer CD
c. Accompanying Material:
* "3.2 Release Notes"
* "Upgrading To NeXTstep Release 3.2"
* "Installing & Configuring NeXTstep Rel 3.2 For Intel Processors"
* "3.2 Supplemental Release"
* All in original packing
Price: $650.00
1) - NeXTstep for Intel v3.1
a. One (1) User CD
b. One (1) Developer CD
Price: $350.00 OBO
2) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.1
a. One (1) User CD
b. One (1) Developer CD
Price: $300.00 OBO
3) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.0
a. One (1) User and Developer CD
Price: $150.00 OBO
All versions come with the full and complete versions. In other
words these are not student, demo or evaluation versions. Also, all CDs may
be registered to the new owner without hassle or apprehension. Prices
do not include shipping which will happen via Federal Express 2nd Day
C.O.D. Thanks.
Peace,
James
Message-Id: <2966768590.3.p00378@psilink.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 94 06:29:59 -0600
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Organization: GCC
Subject: NS 3.1 & 3.0 FOR SALE!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
I have two versions of NeXTstep OS CDs for sale:
1) - NeXTstep for Intel v3.1 (WHITE HARDWARE)
a. One (1) User CD
b. One (1) Developer CD
Price: $600.00 or OBO
2) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.1 (BLACK HARDWARE)
a. One (1) User CD
b. One (1) Developer CD
Price: $550.00 or OBO
3) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.0 (BLACK HARDWARE)
a. One (1) User CD
b. One (1) Developer CD
Price: $200.00 or OBO
4) - NeXTstep v3.1 Original Hardcopy Documentation
a. One (1): Received at 1993 SF NeXTExpo
Price: $200.00 or OBO
All items above are the full and complete versions. In other words
these are not student, demo or evaluation versions. Also, all CDs may
be registered to the new owner without hassle or apprehension. Prices
do not include shipping which will happen via Federal Express 2nd Day
C.O.D. Thanks.
Peace,
James
From: jabr@bcs.org (John Abreau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking 4: Terminalprogram
Date: 6 Jan 1994 20:43:38 -0500
Organization: The Boston Computer Society
Message-ID: <2gieoa$kvo@bcs.org>
References: <CIq8ww.K93@cc.umontreal.ca>
In article <CIq8ww.K93@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA
(Kosmatos Odisseas) writes:
> Stefano Pagiola (spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu) wrote:
> : Richard Lippmann writes
> : > Im also looking for a terminalprogram 4 NSI 3.1, any hints?
>
> : What's wrong with /NextApps/Terminal.app?
>
> Come on... Terminal.app can't access the modem, dial out for you, or do
> zmodem without having to go fetch 'kermit' and 'sz' and 'rz'...
I use Terminal.app on an '040 cube under 3.1, with no problems. tip(1)
accesses the modem just fine, and I run an old rz/sz that works with tip.
Newer versions of rz/sz don't work; the version I have has a "-1"
option, which is missing from the current version I ftp'ed; but when
I restored the old binaries from my 2.1 archive tape, they still work
perfectly under 3.1.
--
John Abreau <jabr@bcs.org>
Director, BCS Internet Task Force
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: Address Book Data Base ~/Library/Addresses/Numbers.addresses
Message-ID: <1994Jan6.190504.486@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <2ggcff$ida@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 94 19:05:04 GMT
In article <2ggcff$ida@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> claspac@barber.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell)
writes:
>
> Maybe I just missed something obvious, but it seems that the
> only App-style mechanism for adding addresses to the address
> book is to pretend to FAX them something and add them in the
> FAX panel, then edit the other attributes using the workspace
> inspector. Sort of Kludgy huh?
>
> Does anyone know of applications or services or loadable workspace
> nibs or something that does more with addresses and the address
> book?
>
We are selling a productivity package called "Assistant", which provides
compatibility to the system address database.
Assistant contains a comfortable address database and a time management system.
You'll find a demo version on the NEXTSTEP 3.2 third party demo CD.
But the point that you make about the handling of addresses in the NEXTSTEP
system software is exactly right. It needs a lot of improvements.
What everybody really wants is a single database to store addresses, with phone
and fax numbers available throughout the system. And we also want the freedom
to choose this database from the whole variety of SQL-, Flatfile- and
Object-Databases. So what NeXT needs to do in a future release is to define
system objects that can handle the communication, so that at least the system
addresses, phone and fax numbers are consistent.
But if you look at the number of invitations that most NeXT users get for the
developer conference in Washington, NeXT still doesn't seem to have a
consistent database strategy for their own purposes, unless you consider
Rolonex to be a database :-)
Wilfried Beeck
d'ART Software GmbH
wbeeck@dart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: ouch (Re: Any mpeg viewers for the NeXT/NextStep?)
Message-ID: <CJ93H3.7sw@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <1994Jan6.152406.25562@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 08:27:03 GMT
Jim Horne <jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu> writes
| Babak Nivi <babak.nivi@umich.edu> writes:
| > Ed Zalta writes:
| > > Can anyone please tell me whether there are any NeXT applications that
| > > will read and display mpeg files?
| >
| > MPEG Play is currently at version 2.6 and can be found on cs.orst.edu in
| > /pub/next/binaries/screen as MPEGPlay2.6.FAT.tar.Z
|
| MPEGPlay is exceedingly slow, wastes memory, and is generally useless for
| playing movies. It is so slow that the movies tend to play at one or two
| frames per second, and is unable to play at full speed. A much, much better
| mpeg player is Movie.app, which plays at full speed, doesn't fill up your
| disk, and is also available on cs.orst.edu.
Aw, gee, now my feelings are hurt :-) First I find the README for the new
Movie.app, in which Andreas Windemuth <windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu>
complaints about MPEGPlay - and now Jim Horne is chiming in with this posting.
I can't resist defending MPEGPlay (and myself)...
1. First of all, MPEGPlay runs very fast (up to 30 fps) on my NeXTdimension.
It was quite a task to add support for White Hardware, because I do not have an
Intel system of my own. There have been complaints about performance on Color
Stations, though, and I hope to address these issues in future releases. It's
really hard testing on platforms I don't own without feedback from people who
are having problems. For now, MPEGPlay performs the best on NeXTdimension
systems like my own - bacause I'm always testing it!
2. Secondly, the new MPEG support for Movie.app was actually taken from
MPEGPlay! I'd like to see credit where credit is due (Andreas does admit to
his source in the README). I still mention all of my sources in MPEGPlay.
I guess I'm just shocked to see such competition between free applications.
The median price for shrink-wrapped NeXTstep software seems to be $495, and I
haven't seen such strong criticisms in public of software demanding that kind
of price.
Also, my e-mail address is included in MPEGPlay.app - I would have liked to
hear about the terrible performance on certain people's systems (and be given
the chance to improve MPEGPlay) before reading such criticisms on Usenet...
Oh well, worst case is that I feel like I've lost face in the community. But a
little competition never hurt anyway. At least now you can all look forward to
a new version of MPEGPlay which vies head-to-head with Movie.app!
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ouch (Re: Any mpeg viewers for the NeXT/NextStep?)
Date: 7 Jan 1994 02:58:52 -0800
Message-ID: <2gjf9c$2cb@ursula.ee.pdx.edu>
References: <1994Jan6.152406.25562@cs.yale.edu> <CJ93H3.7sw@sounds.wa.com>
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby) writes:
>Jim Horne <jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu> writes
>|
>| MPEGPlay is exceedingly slow, wastes memory, and is generally useless for
>| playing movies. It is so slow that the movies tend to play at one or two
>| frames per second, and is unable to play at full speed. A much, much better
>| mpeg player is Movie.app, which plays at full speed, doesn't fill up your
>| disk, and is also available on cs.orst.edu.
>I guess I'm just shocked to see such competition between free applications.
>The median price for shrink-wrapped NeXTstep software seems to be $495, and I
>haven't seen such strong criticisms in public of software demanding that kind
>of price.
Exactomundo. If only all commercial NeXT apps had such a quality ethic.
Of course, even in the info menus, it is made clear that the program
is especially tuned for the NeXTdimension.
>a new version of MPEGPlay which vies head-to-head with Movie.app!
So many NeXT users just don't seem to understand (or perhaps care)
about free software. Put another way, one doesn't hear on a c.s.n.*
group: ``the code is shit''. Naturally, there is plenty of general hyperbole --
backed up by little, if any, technical arguments.
Thanks, Brian, for all your hard work.
Marcus Daniels
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann)
Subject: Re: Calculator
Message-ID: <1994Jan6.081030.7877@kurt.in-berlin.de>
Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de
References: <1448@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 08:10:30 GMT
In article <1448@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
writes:
> Wes Spears writes
> > I am looking for a MAB calculator. It can be Public Domain or
inexpensive
> > commercial.
>
> Check out Trilithon Software. They have one that's pretty cool (I think
> it's called WYSICalc, but that might have been a workin name). Send
them
> an Email at: "info@trilithon.com"
>
Hi,
take a look at Digit.app. It's public domain.
Gerald
--------------------------------------------------------------
| GERALD ERDMANN
| email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome)
| voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin)
| crypt: pgp2 puplic key available
From: mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backdrop software
Date: 7 Jan 1994 15:40:20 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gjvp4$ktj@news.UU.NET>
References: <CJ8I18.Gu@dsinc!flash>
Yes, Background3.0 will do it, however, be warned, it's HUGE. It also munched
up my swap (see previous messages :)). But that will do it. You can tile an image
or enlarge it a bit and stick it in the background. And it remembers the image
that you selected, so it can bring it up. It will also cycle through a bunch of
images for you.
Speaking of which, does anyone know what I can use to edit a tiff? I want to
cut the borders of a picture off. I can use Icon Editor to erase the unwanted
portions of the image, but the space they took up is still there, but just blank.
I want to crop the picture down entirely.
=====================================================
Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
=====================================================
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backdrop software
Date: 7 Jan 1994 15:58:32 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <2gk0r8$670@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <CJ8I18.Gu@dsinc!flash> <2gjvp4$ktj@news.uu.net>
In article <2gjvp4$ktj@news.uu.net>,
Mickey Lasky <mickey@grendel.UU.NET> wrote:
>Speaking of which, does anyone know what I can use to edit a tiff? I want to
>cut the borders of a picture off. I can use Icon Editor to erase the unwanted
>portions of the image, but the space they took up is still there, but just blank.
>I want to crop the picture down entirely.
Easy as pie with Icon.app. Getting that is not easy as pie,
unless you have it already. The archives carry information
about it, I think.
--
[Jess Anderson <> Division of Information Technology, University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu {o"o} UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
[---------------------> There are no ordinary moments. <----------------------]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: DavidKelman@abyss.niehs.nih.gov
Subject: Re: Backdrop software
Message-ID: <DavidKelman.28.0@abyss.niehs.nih.gov>
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
References: <CJ8I18.Gu@dsinc!flash> <2gjvp4$ktj@news.uu.net> <2gk0r8$670@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 16:45:56 GMT
In article <2gk0r8$670@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>In article <2gjvp4$ktj@news.uu.net>,
>Mickey Lasky <mickey@grendel.UU.NET> wrote:
>>Speaking of which, does anyone know what I can use to edit a tiff? I want to
>>cut the borders of a picture off. I can use Icon Editor to erase the unwanted
>>portions of the image, but the space they took up is still there, but just
>blank.
>>I want to crop the picture down entirely.
>Easy as pie with Icon.app. Getting that is not easy as pie,
>unless you have it already. The archives carry information
>about it, I think.
Seems to me that all you really need to do is get a screen capture, and Grab
does that quite nicely.
David Kelman
kelman@niehs.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: horke@bijou.rhoen.in-berlin.de (Bernhard Kroenung)
Subject: NewsGrazer & nntp
Organization: fulmin Ebersburg/Rhoen
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 1994 14:58:28 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan07.145828.974@buchonia.rhoen.in-berlin.de>
Sender: news@buchonia.rhoen.in-berlin.de (News at Night)
Hy
I am using an NNTP-Server (nntp 1.5.11 with patches for tin) and I am
trying to read News via Newsgrazer (2.0). NewsGrazer finds the Groupnames,
I can post but I cannot display the Articles. Using NNTP with rtin on
another host does fine. Even nntp 1.5.11 without the patches would not
work. Who can help me ?
Ciao
Bernhard
--
Bernhard Kroenung, Bahnhofstr 8, 36157 Ebersburg/Rhoen, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: installing new tfm fonts for TeX/dvips - where & how
Message-ID: <CJ9w35.Ap3@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 18:45:04 GMT
I have a .dvi document which comes with a directory full of tfm font files
for tex/dvips. I'm not a TeXie, and while I have looked at the dvips manual,
I can't figure out what to do to install the fonts so they are used
automatically.
I see directories /usr/lib/tex/fonts/pk, tfm, and vf, and a
/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/pk.
I don't know whether the pk, tfm, vf files are alternatives or whether a font
needs to be represented in each.
Can someone help?
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: alice!pgirone (Paul A. Girone)
Subject: Automatic Mail Response System
Message-ID: <1994Jan7.185224.1158@looking-glass.com>
Keywords: mail
Sender: pgirone@looking-glass.com (Paul A. Girone)
Organization: Looking Glass Design, Inc.
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 18:52:24 GMT
Does anyone know of/use mail software for Nextstep which gives an
automated mail service simmilar to what NextAnswers does?
I want to be able to automatically send out appropriate information
based on the subject line in the mail message.
--
Paul A. Girone paul_girone@looking-glass.com
Looking Glass Design, Inc. 604-451-7461
Suite 408, 3700 Glimore Way 604-451-7490 Fax
Burnaby, BC, CANADA, V5G 4M1
From: melston@gomez.intel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextstep Doom
Date: 07 Jan 94 10:54:35
Organization: Intel Architecture Labs, Santa Clara, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <melston.94Jan7105435@mole>
References: <129201@hydra.gatech.EDU> <Rick.Reynolds-040194110222@198.211.32.41> <2gcnj3$hqt@news.UU.NET>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Where is the Intel version of DOOM???
-Mark
melston@gomez.intel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Help with a LaTex error with # of figures > 15...
Message-ID: <garycCJA0ME.Ez2@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 20:23:00 GMT
Hi,
I'm stucked in Latex when I tried to add the 16th pictures in a
article/report style file. There's no problem with the 16th figure that I added.
I have wrote a simple tex that import the same EPS file for 15 times w/o
errors at all, but when add it for the 16th time, it belowed up right away.
If you are using IT (InstantTeX), I have defined my figure macro to be:
%If you do not have the picture file add:
%\let\nopictures=Y
%to the beginning of the file.
\begin{figure}[htb]
\ifx\nopictures Y\else{\ifx\epsfloaded Y\else\input epsf \fi
\let\epsfloaded=Y
\centerline{ \ifx\picnaturalsize N\epsfxsize \picsize\fi
\epsfbox{\picfilename}}}\fi
\caption{PutYourCaptionHere}
\end{figure}
The error log looks like the following:
TeXWorks by Dmitri Linde.
cd /Homes/thesis/Test
latex -V DomainAnalysis.tex;;test -w DomainAnalysis.log && rm DomainAnalysis.log ;echo @@
This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141
(DomainAnalysis.tex
LaTeX Version 2.09 <25 March 1992>
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/article.sty
Standard Document Style `article' <14 Jan 92>.
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/art12.sty) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/titlepag.sty
Document Style Option `titlepage' -- Released 16 June 1991.
)) (DomainAnalysis.aux) [0] (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
(/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex
! No room for a new \read .
\ch@ck ...\else \errmessage {No room for a new #3}
\fi
\alloc@ ...\advance \count 1#1by\@ne \ch@ck #1#4#2
\allocationnumber =\count ...
l.58 \newread\epsffilein
% file to \read
?
Any clue with your help is highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Gary
P.S. BTW, all my EPS file were created using Diagram!2.app with Copy/Paste into
InstantTeX which them creates an EPS file for me in a Save Panel.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma)
Subject: needed: viewer for adobe acrobat pdf type files
Message-ID: <1994Jan7.201610.7721@nosc.mil>
Keywords: acrobat, pdf
Sender: news@nosc.mil
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 20:16:10 GMT
I've got this file that was generated by Adobe Acrobat and is in some
format called "PDF". Is there a pdf viewer for NeXT? Is there a pdf to
postscript filter for Unix? Any hints would be appreciated.
--Ron
ron@nosc.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: harnton@world.std.com (James D Harrington)
Subject: Webster broken in 3.0
Message-ID: <CJA9A7.E3H@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 23:30:06 GMT
Hello Fellow NeXT-netters,
I recently upgraded from NS 2.1 to NS 3.0 on Black hardware. After
installing t
he OS, I was able to use Webster just fine. Having intalled the whole
literatur
e and documentation package, I knew it was possible to delete the
comp[act dicti
onary. When I did, however, Webster would quit whenever I tried to start
a sear
ch in the dictionary. So I re-installed Webster, and it continued to do
the sam
e thing. I then de-installed anything I could think of relating to
Webster, and
then re-installed it again. Still no dice. The thesaurus works OK, but
a coup
le of seconds after pressing a the search button in the dictionary, it
quits. A
ny suggestions to clear up this vexing, problem?
Thanks in advance. Peace,
James
From: theharv@csld.ucr.edu (Brian Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: lemacs under MouseX
Date: 7 Jan 1994 23:51:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2gksh9$8fr@galaxy.ucr.edu>
I compiled lemacs 19.8 under MouseX under NeXTSTEP 3.2 with no problems.
However, sometimes (well, most of the time) when it runs, it generates
this message after a while:
memory allocation error: attempt to free or realloc space not in heap
IOT trap
and then dies. Any ideas?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Harvey * theharv@csld.ucr.edu
University of California, Riverside * brian@cs.ucr.edu
C.S.L.D. System Administrator (NeXT Mail preferred everywhere!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Backdrop software
Message-ID: <CJAIrM.E5B@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <DavidKelman.28.0@abyss.niehs.nih.gov>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 02:54:57 GMT
DavidKelman@abyss.niehs.nih.gov writes
| anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
| >Mickey Lasky <mickey@grendel.UU.NET> wrote:
| >>Speaking of which, does anyone know what I can use to edit a tiff? I want
| >>to cut the borders of a picture off. I can use Icon Editor to erase the
| >>unwanted portions of the image, but the space they took up is still there,
| >>but just blank.
| >>I want to crop the picture down entirely.
|
| >Easy as pie with Icon.app. Getting that is not easy as pie,
| >unless you have it already. The archives carry information
| >about it, I think.
|
| Seems to me that all you really need to do is get a screen capture, and Grab
| does that quite nicely.
These are both good suggestions, and I do have Icon.app available (everyone has
Grab), but I wanted to point out that there is a half-way decent method to do
the same thing within IconBuilder. There is a panel for pixel depth,
background color, and image size which is accessed by Command-P. When resizing
an image, you have the choice of scaling the image or cropping it - but the
thing to note when cropping is that it will maintain the lower left corner of
your image and hack away at the upper and right edges if you make the image
smaller.
1) Type Command-a to switch to selection mode and select the entire image.
2) Type Command-c to copy onto the pasteboard.
3) Use the mouse to drag the image around until you have what you think you
want as your *new* lower left image origin lined up on the window's current
lower left corner.
4) Type Command-P to access the panel which allows specification of a new
size. This works best when you have a numerical idea of the desired size of
your picture. If you don't know, take a guess, but try to err on the large
size so you don't lose too much of the image.
There are a couple of variations on this:
I think that if you can maintain your entire image in the pasteboard, you can
try out different image sizes. Then you can paste the entire original image
into the new smaller window. Some of the image will be clipped, but in
selection mode you can use the mouse to drag the pasted image around before it
becomes permanently placed (of course, that can be tricky to control because
Paste isn't permanent until you do the next operation)
You could also use Command-n to create a second window, size it to what you
need, and then Copy and Paste from the original.
Icon.app provides an interface which is nicer for those times when you don't
know the size numerically - you just want to select an area graphically and
have it automatically cropped to the selected area.
Wish List:
I would like to see a (free) program which supports a moveable selection with
the ability to make minor adjustments to the placement and size of the
currently selected area, both graphically (with the mouse) and numerically
(with a panel including x, y, width, height). Icon.app's selection becomes
difficult if your first attempt is one pixel off - you must start over and make
the entire selection again without an easy way to make minor adjustments.
IconBuilder is a tease, because it is easy to get e.g. a 64x64 window, but
difficult to correctly crop an image on the first attempt. Of all things,
HSD's scanning software has a nice selection tool that would work if it were
supplemented by a panel with numerical entry as well.
I currently have an app with a few powerful TIFF operations, but hardly a full
suite; perhaps I'll get off my butt and add all the other stuff I've been
wishing for.
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Reminder/PIM SW for NextStep?
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA
Date: 07 Jan 94 18:12:55 PST
Message-ID: <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash>
I need a reminder program for my NEXTSTEP workstation. It doesn't have
to be fancy, just be able to do the following:
- if there's something important coming up and I want to remember
it, then I should be able to specify the date/time of this event,
and also specify that I want to be notified (via email or some
flashing icon on the dock or SOMETHING) as of N hours/days before
the event has occurred
- appointment scheduler/calendar capabilities like in the old Date.app
Is there anything in the NeXT internet archives that'll do this? How about
commercial apps? Any suggestions would be appreciated. How about they
just get sent as a reply to this USENET note, rather than email (every time
I ask such questions, 10 people ask me to email them with replies I get,
cuz they're interested too! but I don't have the time to do that, so
whatcha say we just stick with newsgroup postings, thanks!)
- bd
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Illustrator still available?
Message-ID: <2glc86$lic@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 8 Jan 94 04:19:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Is Adobe Illustrator still available for NextStep?
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Illustrator still available?
Date: 8 Jan 1994 04:20:22 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2glca6$lih@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Is Adobe Illustrator still available for NextStep?
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Illustrator still available?
Date: 8 Jan 1994 04:17:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Message-ID: <2glc4d$lhs@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Is Adobe Illustrator still available for NextStep? The list of third
party graphics packages which I get from NeXT (1346_Graphics.rtf) doesn't
have Illustrator listed.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Automatic Mail Response System
Message-ID: <1994Jan8.083427.2088@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994Jan7.185224.1158@looking-glass.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 08:34:27 GMT
In article <1994Jan7.185224.1158@looking-glass.com> alice!pgirone (Paul A.
Girone) writes:
> Does anyone know of/use mail software for Nextstep which gives an
> automated mail service simmilar to what NextAnswers does?
>
> I want to be able to automatically send out appropriate information
> based on the subject line in the mail message.
Use procmail. This seems to do everything :-).
Alternatively, I use this script successfully:
#!/bin/sh
# info-server
# a shell script that can be used to set up an auto-reply mail server
#
# Usage: info-server -r infofile [log to]
# infofile: will be mailed back to the requestor
# log to: a mail id that will be sent a copy of the request
# expects to find a standard mail message on stdin
# can be used by creating an alias, for example:
# info: "| info-server /home/info/info-reply paul"
# -r means send file is in sendmail format (i.e. NeXTmail)
RTF="no"
if [ -n "$1" ]
then
if [ "$1" = "-r" ]
then
echo "-r received"
RTF="yes"
shift
fi
fi
case $# in
1) infofile=$1
;;
2) infofile=$1
logname=$2
;;
*)
echo "usage: $0 [-r] infofile [log to]"
exit 1
;;
esac
tmpnam=/tmp/infomail.$$
cat > $tmpnam
if [ -n "$logname" ]
then
/usr/ucb/Mail -s "info-server notification" $logname <$tmpnam
fi
toname=`gawk 'BEGIN { inhdrs = "YES" }
/^From / { if (inhdrs == "YES") from = $2 }
/^From: / { if (inhdrs == "YES") {gsub(/\(.*\)/,""); from = $2
for (i = 3; i <= NF; i++) from = from " " $i}}
/^Reply-To: / { if (inhdrs == "YES") {gsub(/\(.*\)/,""); replyto = $2}}
NF == 0 { inhdrs = "NO" }
END { if (replyto) print replyto ; else print from } '
<$tmpnam`
if [ "$RTF" = "yes" ]
then
awk 'NR == 1 { print "To: " toname
print "Subject: Information requested"
print "From: info@seer.demon.co.uk"
print }
{ print } ' toname=$toname <$infofile | /usr/lib/sendmail
else
/usr/ucb/Mail -s "Information Requested" $toname <$infofile
fi
---end---
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cmumford@iat.holonet.net (Chris Mumford)
Subject: Dallas NeXT users group
Message-ID: <CJBIFs.1oy@iat.holonet.net>
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access System: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 15:45:27 GMT
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Automatic Mail Response System
Date: 08 Jan 1994 15:10:51 GMT
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
Message-ID: <KARTHY.94Jan8161051@dannug.dannug.dk>
References: <1994Jan7.185224.1158@looking-glass.com>
In-reply-to: alice!pgirone's message of Fri, 7 Jan 1994 18:52:24 GMT
>>>>> "Paul" == Paul A Girone <alice!pgirone> writes:
Paul> Does anyone know of/use mail software for Nextstep which gives
Paul> an automated mail service simmilar to what NextAnswers does?
Take a look at the Squirrel Mail Server Software. It's very nice, but
based on Perl (perhaps this is no problem for you).
The Mail Server can mail files back in arbitrary encoded formats (not
NeXT-Mail, hence). It provides automatic tar/compress/encoding,
replyes by uucp or e-mail, and provides transparent ftp possibilities
and much much more!!
It's quite easy to install (if you know a little Perl) and it very
stable. I have been using it at the Danish NeXT User group in more
than a year without any problems.
Receive the last version by sending an e-mail to mail-server@nluug.nl.
Regards,
Karsten.
--
Karsten Thygesen I Aalborg, Denmark
karthy@dannug.dk (NeXT-Mail welcome) I Voice: +45 98 12 42 59
Chairman, Danish NeXT Users Group I Fax: +45 98 12 44 81
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Subject: Appsoft Draw 1.03 doesn't open documents when i click on it's icon
Message-ID: <1994Jan7.183855.797@ideal.muc.de>
Sender: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Organization: Eversmile
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 18:38:55 GMT
Hello
Does anybody know who to get AppsoftDraw 1.03 to open a document when clicking on it's
icon? I mean when I open it via file->open it works but when I click on it in the
workspace it doesn't.
Maybe I should use Version 1.02?
Thanks
klaus
--
____________________________________________________________
Klaus Bscheid, klaus@ideal.muc.de, voice/fax: +49 89 3103829
Germany, 85716 Unterschleissheim, Sportplatzstrasse 7
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: MuTeX, MusicTeX installation failed (Q)
Message-ID: <CJBFnC.25n@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 14:45:11 GMT
I had ftped the MuTeX & MusicTeX to my NeXT and tried it through InstantTeX.
But got the following messages:
couldn't find tfm file; substituting cmr10
!could not open tfm file
Last font was music16.tfm
then TeXview quit.
I had tried to add fonts search paths to .cshrc file:
setenv TEXINPUTS .:~/tex/inputs:/NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs:~/tex/examples
setenv TEXFONTS .:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm:/fuji1
g/pd/tex/musictex/musictex/musictex:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/MuTeX/TFM
and set the fonts search path in TeXWorks. But still failed.
Then I added search path for mf:
setenv MFINPUTS .:/usr/lib/mf/inputs:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/musictex/tfm:/fuji1g/p
d/tex/music/MuTeX/MF
run MakeTeXPK, it works with error. I found that lines in the musicn20.mf
file ended with ^M. Does it mean the musicTeX was originally written for
MS-DOS and must do some conversion before it could be used in Unix machine ?
I had deleted the ^M from the file and rerun, MakeTeXPK ended with many
error messages and TeXview exited with same dialog.
Did anybody successfully installed the MuTeX, musicTeX on NeXT ? Can you
give me some hints ?
Thanks in advance.
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: Reminder/PIM SW for NextStep?
Message-ID: <1994Jan8.153838.244@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 94 15:38:38 GMT
In article <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
writes:
> I need a reminder program for my NEXTSTEP workstation. It doesn't have
> to be fancy, just be able to do the following:
>
> - if there's something important coming up and I want to remember
> it, then I should be able to specify the date/time of this event,
> and also specify that I want to be notified (via email or some
> flashing icon on the dock or SOMETHING) as of N hours/days before
> the event has occurred
>
> - appointment scheduler/calendar capabilities like in the old Date.app
>
Our program "Assistant" does exactly what you are asking for. A demo version is
included in the NEXTSTEP 3.2 demo CD.
Our U.S. distributor is:
Alembic Systems International Ltd.
14 Inverness Drive East, Suite G-228
Englewood, Colorado 80112
303-799 6223
303-799 1435 fax
tyler@alembic.com
Wilfried Beeck
d'ART Software GmbH
wbeeck@dart.de
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: installing new tfm fonts for TeX/dvips - where & how
Date: 8 Jan 1994 17:52:43 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gmrtb$724@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <CJ9w35.Ap3@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
In article <CJ9w35.Ap3@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
(Michael Friendly) writes:
> I have a .dvi document which comes with a directory full of tfm font files
> for tex/dvips. I'm not a TeXie, and while I have looked at the dvips manual,
> I can't figure out what to do to install the fonts so they are used
> automatically.
>
> I see directories /usr/lib/tex/fonts/pk, tfm, and vf, and a
> /LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/pk.
>
> I don't know whether the pk, tfm, vf files are alternatives or whether a font
> needs to be represented in each.
>
> Can someone help?
>
tfm = TeX Font Metric => describe the dimesions of the characters
pk = packed bit images of fonts => the actual characters.
vf = virtual font => a way to combine fonts that you don't need
The tfm files by themselves are worthless. If you have both tfm and pk files
you can print at the resolution used to build the pk files (e.g., 300 dpi).
Bottom line: you probably need the pk files to do anything useful.
(Even better than the pk files would be mf files---this describes the shapes of
the characters in a resolution-independent way. They go in
/NextLibrary/TeX/mf/inputs.)
/usr/tex/ntman.dvi will answer lots of your questions.
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backdrop software
Date: 8 Jan 1994 18:34:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2gmuc8$orh@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CJAIrM.E5B@sounds.wa.com>
Brian Willoughby writes
> Icon.app provides an interface which is nicer for those times
> when you don't know the size numerically - you just want to select
> an area graphically and have it automatically cropped to the
> selected area.
Hmmm... I thought I new Icon.app pretty well, but I must have missed
this bit in those voluminous user's manuals that came with it :-)
Could you explain how to do this 'automatic cropping'?
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reminder/PIM SW for NextStep?
Date: 8 Jan 1994 18:37:22 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2gmuh2$osd@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash>
Brian Dear writes
> I need a reminder program for my NEXTSTEP workstation. It doesn't
> have to be fancy, just be able to do the following:
> ....
> - appointment scheduler/calendar capabilities like in the old
> Date.app
Date.app still works under 3.2.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jrhoads@netcom.com
Subject: SLIP & Domain Name Servers
Content-Type: text/plain
Message-ID: <jason.94Jan8111455@sandcastle>
Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration)
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Distribution: fj
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 19:14:55 GMT
I have SLIP running on NeXTSTEP 3.1 on an i486. How do I get SLIP to recognize ftp sites by their name
(i.e. cs.orst.edu) instead of adding cs.orst.edu to my machines hosts list?
Thanks!
Jason R. Rhoads
jrhoads@netcom.com (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Reminder/PIM SW for NextStep?
Message-ID: <1994Jan8.211925.5760@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 21:19:25 GMT
In article <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian
Dear) writes:
> I need a reminder program for my NEXTSTEP workstation. It doesn't have
> to be fancy, just be able to do the following:
>
> - if there's something important coming up and I want to remember
> it, then I should be able to specify the date/time of this
event,
> and also specify that I want to be notified (via email or some
> flashing icon on the dock or SOMETHING) as of N hours/days
before
> the event has occurred
>
> - appointment scheduler/calendar capabilities like in the old
Date.app
>
I'd normally email on this, but since you ask :-).
There are several free products that might do what you want, like
Cassandra or even date. If you want a supported product, the best has to
be PencilMeIn from Sarrus. I think it sells for $299 (info@sarrus.com).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: SLIP & Domain Name Servers
Message-ID: <1994Jan8.212131.5819@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <jason.94Jan8111455@sandcastle>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 21:21:31 GMT
In article <jason.94Jan8111455@sandcastle> jrhoads@netcom.com writes:
> I have SLIP running on NeXTSTEP 3.1 on an i486. How do I get SLIP to
recognize ftp sites by their name
> (i.e. cs.orst.edu) instead of adding cs.orst.edu to my machines hosts
list?
Create a file called /etc/resolv.conf, which contains the name of a DNS
server (seeing as you are posting from a netcom address, I assume they
offer one).
My one, for instance, might look like this:
nameserver 158.152.1.65
domain demon.co.uk
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reminder/PIM SW for NextStep?
Date: 8 Jan 1994 22:44:15 GMT
Organization: the Borg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gncvv$ac@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
References: <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash>
In article <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
writes:
> I need a reminder program for my NEXTSTEP workstation. It doesn't have
> to be fancy, just be able to do the following:
>
You could have a look at Cassandra.app which is on the archives and comes with
source.
Annard
--
Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth.
- Annard Brouwer
annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Calculator
Message-ID: <1994Jan8.202855.13346@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <1994Jan6.081030.7877@kurt.in-berlin.de>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 20:28:55 GMT
In article <1448@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
writes:
* Wes Spears writes
* >I am looking for a MAB calculator. It can be Public
* >Domain or inexpensive commercial.
* Check out Trilithon Software. They have one that's pretty
* cool (I think it's called WYSICalc, but that might have
* been a workin name). Send them an Email at: "info@trilithon.com"
Many thanks for the pointers. Our product is called PowerCalc,
and information about it is appended. As it happens, Wes Spears
had ordered PowerCalc from us and due to a combination of the
Christmas Panic hosing U. S. mail, and UUCP gateway problems hosing
E-mail, Wes had not received any of the three copies we'd sent him
and was understandably annoyed and decided to ask the agora. We
sent Wes a fourth copy which he received.
Here's the blurb about PowerCalc for those who are interested.
PowerCalc -- a multi-function calculator set for NEXTSTEP.
o basic calculator (infix or RPN)
o scientific calculator (infix or RPN)
o trig, hyperbolic, inverse trig and hyperbolic
o natural logs and base 10 logs
o financial calculator (infix or RPN)
o amortisation, delta percent, percent times,
interest, future value, times twelve, divide by twelve
o conversion calculator
o length, area, volume, weight, speeds, temperature
o Available Now for Motorola Hardware
o Available Now for Intel Hardware
Write To: Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 325-0767
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
From: tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Address Book Data Base ~/Library/Addresses/Numbers.addresses
Date: 9 Jan 1994 02:17:16 GMT
Organization: The University of Manitoba
Message-ID: <2gnpfc$rdi@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>
References: <2ggcff$ida@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1994Jan6.190504.486@dart.de>
In article <2ggcff$ida@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> claspac@barber.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell)
writes:
>
> Maybe I just missed something obvious, but it seems that the
> only App-style mechanism for adding addresses to the address
> book is to pretend to FAX them something and add them in the
> FAX panel, then edit the other attributes using the workspace
> inspector. Sort of Kludgy huh?
Look in Workspace's "File" menu when the active window is "*.addresses".
You should see "New Address", "New Group", and "Destroy".
The "FAX" interface to addresses is the worst interface I have seen on the NeXT.
One cannot copy the name or phone number from the document being faxed.
Changing the "name" gratuitously erases other fields. UggggggggHHHHH!
--
.. Richard <tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: garyc@news.eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Re: Help with a LaTex error with (SOLVED) # of figures > 15...
Message-ID: <CJCD6q.Do8@eecs.nwu.edu>
Sender: usenet@eecs.nwu.edu
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
References: <garycCJA0ME.Ez2@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 1994 02:49:38 GMT
Thanks to a lot of you, especially Michal Jaegermann, the problem has been
solved.
Gary
Gary I. Chang (garyc@netcom.com) wrote:
: Hi,
: I'm stucked in Latex when I tried to add the 16th pictures in a
: article/report style file. There's no problem with the 16th figure that I added.
: I have wrote a simple tex that import the same EPS file for 15 times w/o
: errors at all, but when add it for the 16th time, it belowed up right away.
: If you are using IT (InstantTeX), I have defined my figure macro to be:
: %If you do not have the picture file add:
: %\let\nopictures=Y
: %to the beginning of the file.
: \begin{figure}[htb]
: \ifx\nopictures Y\else{\ifx\epsfloaded Y\else\input epsf \fi
: \let\epsfloaded=Y
: \centerline{ \ifx\picnaturalsize N\epsfxsize \picsize\fi
: \epsfbox{\picfilename}}}\fi
: \caption{PutYourCaptionHere}
: \end{figure}
: The error log looks like the following:
: TeXWorks by Dmitri Linde.
: cd /Homes/thesis/Test
: latex -V DomainAnalysis.tex;;test -w DomainAnalysis.log && rm DomainAnalysis.log ;echo @@
: This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141
: (DomainAnalysis.tex
: LaTeX Version 2.09 <25 March 1992>
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/article.sty
: Standard Document Style `article' <14 Jan 92>.
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/art12.sty) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/titlepag.sty
: Document Style Option `titlepage' -- Released 16 June 1991.
: )) (DomainAnalysis.aux) [0] (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex) (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex)
: (/usr/lib/tex/inputs/epsf.tex
: ! No room for a new \read .
: \ch@ck ...\else \errmessage {No room for a new #3}
: \fi
: \alloc@ ...\advance \count 1#1by\@ne \ch@ck #1#4#2
: \allocationnumber =\count ...
: l.58 \newread\epsffilein
: % file to \read
: ?
: Any clue with your help is highly appreciated.
: Thanks in advance,
: Gary
: P.S. BTW, all my EPS file were created using Diagram!2.app with Copy/Paste into
: InstantTeX which them creates an EPS file for me in a Save Panel.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gsl@netcom.com (Greg Lindholm)
Subject: WriteStep by Ciusa
Message-ID: <gslCJCo1H.GD0@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 1994 06:44:05 GMT
Has anyone had a chance to use WriteStep by Ciusa ? I desperately need
a word processor for NS/FIP and it seems to be the only one available.
Is it any good?
Do you like it?
Does it stay up?
Can it import Word or WordPerfect files?
Is there a demo on the archieves?
Also do they have a working email address, info@ciusa.com doesn't seem
to work.
Thanks,
Greg Lindholm
gsl@netcom.com
From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: anyone know of a nifty drawing program
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 94 02:45:04 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
Message-ID: <940109.09904.ECESYS@delphi.com>
References: <rlion.757550918@access3> <94005.001139U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <1994Jan6.222200.11192@altsys.com>
Lorin:
Any info on a "pageMaker" type program for NSFIP, or whether Freehand
will include some page layout capability?
Thanks,
Marty
From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tektronics (graphics) terminal emulation for the NeXT??
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 94 02:51:55 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
Message-ID: <940109.10315.ECESYS@delphi.com>
References: <2gf4np$hb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
HI:
WE have used Communicae for 4014 graphics. I don't of any native 4107 or higher
emulation under NeXTSTEP.
Marty
From: ciusa@cup.portal.com (Gerard - Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteStep by Ciusa
Message-ID: <100367@cup.portal.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 94 02:14:18 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
Greg Linholm (gsl@netcom.com) writes:
> Has anyone had a chance to use WriteStep by Ciusa ? I desperately need
> a word processor for NS/FIP and it seems to be the only one available.
>
> Is it any good?
Yes
> Do you like it?
Yes, but I'm biased since I own the company.
> Does it stay up?
Yes, though there are still bugs being worked out.
> Can it import Word or WordPerfect files?
Not at the moment.
> Is there a demo on the archieves?
No, not yet. Program has not yet been released. It will be posted as
soon as this occurs and a demo will be put on the archives.
> Also do they have a working email address, info@ciusa.com doesn't seem
> to work.
Try ciusa@cup.portal.com (we've had SOME not so wonderful UUCP problems
with info@ciusa.com).
-=|||=- Gerard Schwarz, President, Ciusa
-=|||=- Creative Imagineering America
-=|||=- 3208 W. Lake St. Suite 133
-=|||=- Minneapolis, MN 55416
-=|||=- 612-822-1604 fax 612-922-4426
-=|||=- email: ciusa@cup.portal.com (small NeXTmail happily accepted)
From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www
Subject: sndplay & Mosaic on NeXT
Date: 9 Jan 1994 14:32:44 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gp4ic$767@ratatosk.uninett.no>
I'm trying to use sndplay to run audio (.au) files retrieved by Mosaic
(also mpleg_play) for mpeg files. None work. Both play the formats fine
if the files originate on the Next but picking them off the net with
Mosaic doesn't. Sndplay gives me a "3326 Memory fault" error message,
mpeg_play says nothing. These are the relevant lines in my .mailcap
file:
> # This maps all types of audio data (audio/basic, audio/x-aiff,
> # etc.) to the viewer 'showaudio'. Note that '%s' means 'put the
> # datafile name here when the viewer is executed'.
> audio/*; sndplay %s
> audio/au; sndplay %s
>
> # This maps all types of images (image/gif, image/jpeg, etc.)
> # to the viewer 'xv'.
> image/*; xv %s
>
> # This maps MPEG video data to the viewer 'mpeg_play'.
> video/mpeg; mpeg_play %s
Now xv works just fine, but not the 2 others. Is it because they're not
X applications? Any ideas?
- Barre
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<A HREF="http://www.ludvigsen.dhhalden.no">Psst - Looky here.</A>
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.admin
Subject: NeXT News Server Software?
Date: 9 Jan 1994 15:19:47 GMT
Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!)
Message-ID: <2gp7ak$9c6@news.intercon.com>
Hi folks,
I'm looking for some advice re: news server software for my NeXT.
Preferably, I'd like a package which has been optimized for NeXTStep or
at least one that someone else out there has running and is happy with.
Please send email; I'll summarize to the newsgroups if I get enough of a
response.
Thanks,
David.
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.admin
Subject: cmsg cancel <2gp7ak$9c6@news.intercon.com>
Control: cancel <2gp7ak$9c6@news.intercon.com>
Date: 9 Jan 1994 16:27:54 GMT
Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!)
Message-ID: <2gpbaa$c0a@news.intercon.com>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL1]
From: bohlkejh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jon H. Bohlke II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ouch (Re: Any mpeg viewers for the NeXT/NextStep?)
Date: 9 Jan 1994 17:40:14 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2gpfhu$qiu@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <CJ93H3.7sw@sounds.wa.com>
In article <CJ93H3.7sw@sounds.wa.com> BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby) writes:
> Jim Horne <jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu> writes
> | Babak Nivi <babak.nivi@umich.edu> writes:
> | > Ed Zalta writes:
> | > > Can anyone please tell me whether there are any NeXT applications that
> | > > will read and display mpeg files?
> | >
> I can't resist defending MPEGPlay (and myself)...
>
> 1. First of all, MPEGPlay runs very fast (up to 30 fps) on my NeXTdimension.
Just from watching the program run I get the assumption that it is not doing the mpeg
conversion real-time. It converts the whole mpeg to tiff frames and then displays the
tiff frames. The old version that I had also dithered the image even though the display
was true color. Somebody created a version of mpeg_play (that runs real time on a X box)
that works in a next window. Its not really an App, but it will give you 6-8 fps REAL
TIME on a NSC. I will upload the source to cs.orst.edu. This is not my codee so please
don't ask me how to make it work.
--
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Jon Bohlke bohlkejh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
"This gnaws at my gut like a Billy Tubbs post-game interview."
- Michael Lerner
GO HUSKERS!!!!!!
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu (Josh)
Subject: NeXT CDROM Tools. NeXTMail?
Message-ID: <1994Jan09.201414.109850@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 1994 20:14:14 GMT
A friend of mine just got an old '030 cube with no HD. It has system 1.0
on optical. He put a 450 meg drive on and an Apple CD and got NS 3.0
on cdrom. And a disk :)
He has no diskdrive :)
Could someone please nextmail me the software he needs to install 3.0
from cdrom? I think it's the NeXT CDROM tools, but correct me if
I'm wrong..
Also, could someone post/mail the basic procedure to get buildisk to
use a nonstandard scsi drive? (Will the 3.0 install figure it out, or
is some modification of disktab needed?)
thanks for any help!
josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu --> nexmail ok
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Announced software shipping yet?
Date: 9 Jan 1994 21:46:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2gptvo$s9v@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Hello.
Does anyone know if NewsGrazer Pro and Pinnacle Sequence have been released
yet or what their respective feature sets might be? It's hard to get news
about NeXT products.
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
Time is just one damn thing after another.
==============================================================================
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www
Subject: Re: sndplay & Mosaic on NeXT
Date: 9 Jan 1994 22:33:27 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gq0nn$chs@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <2gp4ic$767@ratatosk.uninett.no>
In article <2gp4ic$767@ratatosk.uninett.no> borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no writes:
>
>
>I'm trying to use sndplay to run audio (.au) files retrieved by Mosaic
>(also mpleg_play) for mpeg files. None work. Both play the formats fine
>if the files originate on the Next but picking them off the net with
>Mosaic doesn't. Sndplay gives me a "3326 Memory fault" error message,
>mpeg_play says nothing. These are the relevant lines in my .mailcap
>file:
Here's the hack I use. I create an executable file in /usr/local/bin called
showaudio that contains the lines:
mv $1 $1.snd
open $1.snd
I do the same sort of thing for Postscript, MPEG and GIF files. This
works just fine...but you've got to have an X emulator that doesn't
take over the whole screen. (I use coXist.)
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Swap Disk Setup?
Message-ID: <1994Jan8.143424.963@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <2ghd1l$rhd@news.UU.NET>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 14:34:24 GMT
In article <2ghd1l$rhd@news.UU.NET> mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
writes:
> Speaking of swap disks, is it normal for my swap to grow and grow
and never
> to get any smaller? It's running NS3.0...
>
This is an old NeXTBug, still there in 3.2.
Everybody should send bug reports to NeXT and demand a shrinking swapfile
for the next release. Rebooting a system regularly is a custom for PC
users but not for workstations (and often intolerable).
BTW: It seems that NeXT did not improve it's OS for at least 2 years now.
The only thing they work on is the AppKit and friends.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
Brooks's Law:
Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later
------------------------------------------------------------------
From: hacker@access.digex.net (Dark Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Want to print PC files on NeXT printer
Date: 9 Jan 1994 14:56:25 -0500
Organization: Fortress Of Computation
Message-ID: <2gpnh9$iin@access.digex.net>
I have a PC. I have a NeXT. I have a NeXT printer. I want to print
stuff from within programs on the NeXT printer. Anybody know of a
reasonably inexpensive way to do this? Would CAP be the thing to use.
I don't have a way of exporting the stuff I want to print into Postscript
so I'm kindof stuck trying to find a way to print on the NeXT laser directly
from a pulldown menu on the PC.
Mail replies greatly prefered. Thanks a lot.
- Hacker
--
Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation
hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us
"Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
From: rlion@access3.digex.net (eli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Want to print PC files on NeXT printer
Date: 9 Jan 1994 17:46:57 -0500
Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <rlion.758155595@access3>
References: <2gpnh9$iin@access.digex.net>
hacker@access.digex.net (Dark Hacker) writes:
>I have a PC. I have a NeXT. I have a NeXT printer. I want to print
>stuff from within programs on the NeXT printer. Anybody know of a
>reasonably inexpensive way to do this? Would CAP be the thing to use.
>I don't have a way of exporting the stuff I want to print into Postscript
>so I'm kindof stuck trying to find a way to print on the NeXT laser directly
>from a pulldown menu on the PC.
anyone know ANY way of doing this? cheap or not?
post or mail
--
rebel lion (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail))
finger my account for computer stuff i have forsale
void life() { aint_nothing(but_a,good->groove);
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosaic and co-Xist ?
Date: 10 Jan 1994 00:22:12 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2gq73k$epk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: Mosaic. co-Xist
was anyone successful in running NCSA Mosaic under co-Xist?
I wasn't so far.
Thanks,
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (NeXT-Mail)
gmk@goshawk.lanl.gov, gmk@santafe.edu
(217)-244-5877 (voice/fax modem),x8371(fax), x1994 (msg)
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: After upgrade to NS 3.2, "mix" (ilink GmbH) does not work.
Date: 10 Jan 1994 02:38:55 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2gqf3v$4ho@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I just upgraded to NS 3.2 on my NeXTdimension. Everything else seems
ok but my faxprogram "mix" (by ilink in Germany) gives consistently
the following error message on the console:
mix:dial 5899216
mix:remote id: 310 589 9216
mix:transmitting page 1 at 9600bps
mix:FaxDaemon couldn't keep up
mix:onHook
My "mix" is version 1.23. Faxing from my computer is critical for me
so I would appreciate very much any and all help. Should someone have
a fix, I can receive multimegabyte files as NeXTmail as
hketola@sms-usa.com
Thanks in advance for all help.
Heikki Ketola
From: wjs@omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Want to print PC files on NeXT printer
Date: 9 Jan 1994 18:28:07 -0800
Organization: The Omni Group
Message-ID: <2gqefn$kge@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2gpnh9$iin@access.digex.net> <rlion.758155595@access3>
Dark Hacker writes:
>I have a PC. I have a NeXT. I have a NeXT printer. I want to print
>stuff from within programs on the NeXT printer. Anybody know of a
>reasonably inexpensive way to do this? Would CAP be the thing to use.
>I don't have a way of exporting the stuff I want to print into Postscript
>so I'm kindof stuck trying to find a way to print on the NeXT laser directly
>from a pulldown menu on the PC.
I haven't gotten it to work with MS-Widows yet, but by downloading
a TCP packet driver from Intel's BBS, and downloading NCSA telnet, I've
been able to get lpr to work from DOS, which is pretty darn neat.
InterCon offers a package that gives you an NFS client, lpr driver,
newsreader, telnet, and ftp dealy that all run under Windows. I think
it's about $250, sounds like a good deal to me. (Considering the
same packages for the Mac cost about $750 and aren't bundled, it's
obvious they're going for volume here.)
Call 'em at 1-800-468-7266, they've got a great try-before-you-buy policy.
-Wil Shipley
DISCLAIMER: I have no relationship with InterCon except I looked at their
NFS client software on the Mac, and also a friend of mine just moved out
to DC to work for them in some capacity. Incidentally, I didn't end up
buying their NFS client software, because if you have a lot of Macs it's
cheaper to buy IPT's Partner Plus (1-800-233-9993) to teach your server
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 9 Jan 1994 23:52:13 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2gqmtt$bap@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
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This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
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Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Want to print PC files on NeXT printer
Message-ID: <bchin.758167769@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <2gpnh9$iin@access.digex.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 02:09:29 GMT
hacker@access.digex.net (Dark Hacker) writes:
>I have a PC. I have a NeXT. I have a NeXT printer. I want to print
>stuff from within programs on the NeXT printer. Anybody know of a
>reasonably inexpensive way to do this? Would CAP be the thing to use.
>I don't have a way of exporting the stuff I want to print into Postscript
>so I'm kindof stuck trying to find a way to print on the NeXT laser directly
>from a pulldown menu on the PC.
Since there are two people asking, I'm posting...
For one of my clients we went with the Sun PC-NFS route. For $275 +
ethernet card, the PC can share files and set up 3 printer ports to
be hooked into the BSD lpd print system. We print this way to
NeXT color and B&W printers as well as EtherTalk printers using
uShare.
I chose PC-NFS for bulletproof NFS and seamless printing. There are
PD solutions that typically capture the print job and you have to
execute something to then print it. You can get cheaper
commercial solutions that do not have as many TCP/IP features like
NFS. Take a look at a copy of UNIXWORLD or other UNIX rags that
advertise PC connectivity solutions. Don't forget to look around
wuarchive.wustl.edu for PD alternatives (they weren't seamless
enough for us).
Of course, this all assumes your PC program can generate postscript
output. We haven't found a satisfactory answer to programs that
can only handle dot-matrix or HP's PCL.
Good luck!
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MIDI sample dump via SCSI?
Date: 10 Jan 1994 09:59:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2gr8tl$gm1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Is there anyone out there who owns a NeXT and a Kurzweil K2000 sampler who has
or might be interested in writing a program that can transfer sample data from
K2000 to NeXT for editing or storage and back again? Maybe in a couple of
years I can write one myself but I'd prefer to shortcut if someone else has
already gone to the trouble. Or am I just beating my head against a wall
looking for sequencers and sample editors for NeXTSTEP? Sometimes I hate being
a niche within a niche.
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
Time is just one damn thing after another.
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Want to print PC files on NeXT printer
Message-ID: <1994Jan10.095908.14289@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 09:59:08 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <2gpnh9$iin@access.digex.net>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <2gpnh9$iin@access.digex.net> writes:
>
> I have a PC. I have a NeXT. I have a NeXT printer. I want to print
> stuff from within programs on the NeXT printer. Anybody know of a
> reasonably inexpensive way to do this? Would CAP be the thing to use.
> I don't have a way of exporting the stuff I want to print into Postscript
> so I'm kindof stuck trying to find a way to print on the NeXT laser
directly
> from a pulldown menu on the PC.
>
> Mail replies greatly prefered. Thanks a lot.
>
> - Hacker
> --
> Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation
> hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us
>
> "Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
How are the machines connected? Ethernet?
If so, the best would be to get TCP und the BSD remote printing stuff to
run on the PC. Everything else is easy. You do NOT have to create
postscript files. The NeXT will automatically convert any non postscript to
postscript (though the default isn't always pretty).
Where to get the TCP stuff? Several vendors have it and if you want to
hack, try the PD BSD sources...
-Robert
--
Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: utata!grisu (Gernot A. Pohl)
Subject: NewsGrazer
Message-ID: <1994Jan9.220950.4851@utata.in-berlin.de>
Sender: grisu@utata.in-berlin.de
Organization: WY
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 1994 22:09:50 GMT
Hi, anything out about NewsGrazer for Intel now? We need it - some
urgent...
--
[NeXT-]Mail to grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de
.. viel Spasz!
> Gernot Pohl
\_/ Schoenhauser Allee 5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: VarioData
Message-ID: <CJF6zK.DFo@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 15:28:31 GMT
Can anybody direct me to more information and the author of VarioData?
Thanks
-Florian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: obrooks@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks)
Subject: GNU *.qz Files ??
Message-ID: <1994Jan10.153950.14224@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Keywords: GNU, uncompress
Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 15:39:50 GMT
I have received numerous file with the extensions *.qz.
Could someone please tell me were I can pickup the binary
version of the program to uncompress these files? I need it
for black hardware. Please help, this is extremely annoying.
O
------------------------------------------------
Oscar Brooks
Mail Code: DL-DSD-24
Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899
Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov <NeXTMail OK>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: horshack@lisa.franken.de (Richard Lippmann)
Subject: Looking 4 spreadsheet
Message-ID: <CJF942.6A@lisa.franken.de>
Organization: Individual Network Germany
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 16:14:25 GMT
Can anyone recommend me a nice spreadsheet for NSI? I don't want
to manage a factory. A small application would be fine...
Thanks in advance
Horshack
<-
Richard Lippmann Tel. voice: +49+911+69.84.58
D-90522 Oberasbach horshack@lisa.franken.de (NeXTmail welcome!)
-> Old german law: Nur Beamte koennen wie Beamte denken!
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GNU *.qz Files ??
Date: 10 Jan 1994 17:00:43 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Message-ID: <2gs1jr$b5q@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Jan10.153950.14224@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
In article <1994Jan10.153950.14224@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
obrooks@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) writes:
>
> I have received numerous file with the extensions *.qz.
> Could someone please tell me were I can pickup the binary
> version of the program to uncompress these files? I need it
> for black hardware. Please help, this is extremely annoying.
It comes on the NextStep 3.1 and 3.2 CDs.
-- Todd Takken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manenber@ibis.ccmail.com
Subject: Re: Mosaic and co-Xist ?
Content-Type: text/plain
Message-ID: <manenber.94Jan1085135@ibis.ccmail.com>
Sender: news@ccmail.com
Organization: cc:Mail, A Division of Lotus
References: <2gq73k$epk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Distribution: na
Date: 10 Jan 94 08:51:35
>was anyone successful in running NCSA Mosaic under co-Xist?
>I wasn't so far.
>
>Thanks,
>
>--
>Gottfried Mayer-Kress
I was able to bring it up under the Cub-X demo.
Does anyone know anything about the relative speeds of co-Xist vs. Cub-X ?
Mark Anenberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: Colours and Apps
Message-ID: <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de>
Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de
Organization: Borris Balzer - DeskTopPublishing
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 16:23:48 GMT
Hi,
since using my "new" used NeXT Colour-Station I've got a problem using
colours.
Using Pantone-Colours, the NeXT colour panel represents the real colour in
a correct way. For example, the NeXT colour panel displays Pantone 355 (a
very dark and blue green) correctly as very dark and "blue". But if I like
to fill an object on the "working screen" of any App (like Virtuoso), this
Pantone 355 changes to another green - the working-screen shows something
like Pantone 333 (a very light green without any blue).
Printing the whole job (on a NeXT colour printer) will print-out the
correct colour(s) - so I think it's just a problem of the way, how the
colours are shown within an App.
Does anybody know: Is there any way to callibrate just the working space
oft the App (favourite: Virtuoso) without changing the callibration of the
NeXT colour panel?
Thanks in advance
- Borris -
P.S.: Please excuse my bad English - it isn't my native language.
P.P.S.: For readers of de.comp.sys.next: You might answer in German
language using p-mail
- B -
--
borris@boba.rhein-main.de ist: Borris Balzer - Kennedyallee 34
D-60596 Frankfurt am Main - Tel +49-69-639266 - Fax +49-69-6312324
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam)
Subject: What's the best X11 software for NSFIP?
Message-ID: <1994Jan10.181512.7709@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 94 18:15:12 GMT
I've blown a few $$ on a new hard disk, and i'd like to install
some sort of x-windows system on my machine. Any suggestions
as to what's the best? I use X11R5 frequently at school, and
i hear that's available for NeXT. How about MouseX?
thanx
dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Subject: Serial Port Driver that works at 19200
Message-ID: <CJF5oE.MB8@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Summary: Well here it is, the long awaited for Serial Driver that works on NS/FIP
Keywords: 16550 Serial Ports Driver
Organization: VE6MGS Gateway
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 15:00:12 GMT
I appologise for cross posting to the three major technical groups, but I feel
that the need has been expressed in all these groups for a Serial Driver thats
works. This is an Alpha (24 hour testing only) release of the Serial Driver I
have written. Version numbers mean nothing to me, my wings are like a shield of
steel.
The driver you will find enclosed is not yet polished, but is workable for
people that understand at least a little bit about coding and hacking with
the Instance0 Table. Out of the wrapper, this sofware supports the DigiBoard
8 and 4 cards without any Configuration. IT will support a single
(non-multiplexed) serial port with an edited Instance0.table, the Default
Configuration Application is *not* up to the task of adjusting the port
addresses adequately. If you wish to manually load up the app, use
`/etc/use/driverLoader d=Mux8 v' and answer yes to all the questions. The
startup log of the driver will be in /usr/adm/messages (or on the console if
you are running Single User Mode).
The code is a Unix Level Kernel Driver with *direct* connections to the
Interrupt. It is disingenuous to say the least if I were to call this an
Object Advantage. I would have released this a week earlier had I not tried
to make it connect to the broken(?) DriverKit on NS/FIP 3.2.
I am getting 1300c/s (receive) performance through this port, and have only
had 24 hours of testing waiting for a crash of the OS ... It has been tested
on 3.2, but should work on 3.1 based Intel systems.
I have plans on completing the Configuration Inspector, getting the PostLoader
to handle multiple instances of the driver. I have intentions of building
another driver for the 8530, Ottawa PI card with DMA on one of the ports, so if
anyone has some work on a Intel based driver I would be interested.
Please send bug reports, fixes, and code segments to be included in this
project to mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Salyzyn) (alternate addresses include
mark@adec23.UUCP, mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org, mark@ve6mgs.UUCP). Use this driver
at your own risk.
Ciao, -- Mark Salyzyn
# run uudecode | gunzip | tar -xvf and will create a source tree in the
# current directory called Mux8. Use the Project Builder, as root, to run
# it and install the package in /NextLibrary/Devices/Mux8.config.
begin 640 Mux8.tar.gz
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From: rvose@sparc19.cs.uiuc.edu (Randy Vose)
Subject: Help mounting mac disks in NS 3.2
Message-ID: <CJFHo6.39B@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 19:19:17 GMT
For the first time since installing NS 3.2, I tried inserting a macintosh
disk into my NeXTStation color. The automounter identified the disk as
a mac disk, but then I received the following message in the Console
window:
fd0 PROBE: RECOGNIZED
/usr/filesystems/macintosh.fs/macintosh.util EXITING: <-1>
probing for macintosh
/usr/filesystems/macintosh.fs/macintosh.util STARTING
/usr/filesystems/macintosh.fs/macintosh.util COMMAND: <-m>
/usr/filesystems/macintosh.fs/macintosh.util MOUNT: <fd0> </macintosh>
- MOUNT: Child id is: 192.
- MOUNT: Eff user id is: 0.
- MOUNT: Real user id is: 0.
An uncaught exception was raised
App Kit: Pasteboard Mach messaging error #-102, in (null pointer)
/usr/filesystems/macintosh.fs/macintosh.util EXISTING: <-3>
Jan 10 01:04:39 Workspace: Mounted floppy disk at /macintosh
/macintosh does not appear in the browser and the Workspace manager doesn't
know about the disk. I have to manually eject it, and upon inserting another
one (DOS, unix, or anything else) the system doesn't even attempt to mount
it. I have to restart the system to regain floppy drive access.
As another test, I formatted a blank disk in mac format (on the NeXT) and
again, once the disk was formatted, the system failed to mount it. I
receieved the same message as the one above. Is this a known bug in the OS?
I tried the same thing under NS 3.1 and got the same error.
I looked in /usr/filesystems and noticed that there are two directories,
macintosh.fs/ and mac.fs/ Is my system using the wrong one? The mac.fs
directory contained similar files to the macintosh.fs, the file names were
prefixed with mac. instead of macintosh.
My machine has a very vanilla configuration. DOS disks work just fine but
I really need the ability to get at macintosh files. If there's something
I need to do ahead of time, or if there's a fix out there please let me
know. Any and all help is appreciated!
Thanks in advance...
Randy Vose Internet: rvose@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois rvose@cs.uiuc.edu
Urbana/Champaignn
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Swap Disk Setup?
Date: 10 Jan 94 22:09:50 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.758239790@uiuc.edu>
References: <2ghd1l$rhd@news.UU.NET> <1994Jan8.143424.963@gamelan>
Thomas Funke writes:
>BTW: It seems that NeXT did not improve it's OS for at least 2 years now.
>The only thing they work on is the AppKit and friends.
I think this will remain unfixed for as long as NeXT has something else to
do (e.g., porting NS to other platforms and finding new kits to include with
NS). I think this is one of NS' major problems, one worth a real fix (not a
temporary fix like the 'swaptimizer').
--
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Hot to convert EPS -> GIF?
Date: 10 Jan 1994 22:18:30 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2gsk7n$i6t@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
How can I convert an EPS file to a GIF file? (Yes, I have ImageViewer.app, but
the GIF choice is dimmed on the Save As menu...)
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: Network Management Station (SNMP software)
Message-ID: <CJFouC.35D@ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: network management, NMS, SNMP
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of California, Davis
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 21:54:11 GMT
Hello Net,
Does anyone out here know of any Network Management Station (NMS)
software available for NEXTSTEP? I have a NeXTstation running
NS 3.x, and I am interested in examining the SNMP manageable objects
on our network.
Any help would be appreciated,
Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: anyone know of a nifty drawing program
Message-ID: <1994Jan10.165430.14411@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <94005.001139U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <1994Jan6.222200.11192@altsys.com> <940109.09904.ECESYS@delphi.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 16:54:30 GMT
I was worried that my post would generate some confusion. Aldus is
involved in NeXT marketplace only to the extent of lending Virtuoso
the FreeHand name.
One of the most exciting new features in the Virtuoso 2/FreeHand 4 is
the ability to have multiple pages. Virtuoso 1 has fairly strong page
layout features already.
Thanks,
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help mounting mac disks in NS 3.2
Message-ID: <CJFsFz.5oK@cobra.cs.unm.edu>
Date: 10 Jan 94 23:12:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: cobra.CJFsFz.5oK
References: <CJFHo6.39B@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: ARDI
In article <CJFHo6.39B@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu> rvose@sparc19.cs.uiuc.edu (Randy Vose) writes:
>For the first time since installing NS 3.2, I tried inserting a macintosh
>disk into my NeXTStation color. The automounter identified the disk as
>a mac disk, but then I received the following message in the Console
>window:
>
[description of failure omitted]
>
>I looked in /usr/filesystems and noticed that there are two directories,
>macintosh.fs/ and mac.fs/ Is my system using the wrong one? The mac.fs
>directory contained similar files to the macintosh.fs, the file names were
>prefixed with mac. instead of macintosh.
The "macintosh.fs" entry is probably from "FloppyWorks". Try renaming
it from "macintosh.fs" to "macintosh.fs.HOLD" and see if everything works.
If you're more curious as to exactly what it it, you can try using the
strings program:
strings /usr/filesystems/macintosh.fs/macintosh.util | grep -i floppyworks
--Cliff
ctm@ardi.com
From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens Hoerup Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Address Book Data Base ~/Library/Addresses/Numbers.addresses
Date: 10 Jan 1994 22:15:18 GMT
Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University
Message-ID: <2gsk1m$e7h@belfort.daimi.aau.dk>
References: <2ggcff$ida@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1994Jan6.190504.486@dart.de>
>In article <2ggcff$ida@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> claspac@barber.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell)
>writes:
>>
>> Maybe I just missed something obvious, but it seems that the
>> only App-style mechanism for adding addresses to the address
>> book is to pretend to FAX them something and add them in the
>> FAX panel, then edit the other attributes using the workspace
>> inspector. Sort of Kludgy huh?
>>
>> Does anyone know of applications or services or loadable workspace
>> nibs or something that does more with addresses and the address
>> book?
>>
You can add a person in the workspace by first dubleclicking on
~/Library/Addresses/Numbers.addresses and then press Command+n to
create a new person or Command+g to create a new group. Actually it is
possible to extend the base to include ex. birthday or whatever you want.
I have done that in only a few minutes.
-- Jens
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: NeXT Mail Replacement
Message-ID: <1994Jan10.215828.5174@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 21:58:28 GMT
Early last year, there was a post from a company in London that was
building a NeXT Mail replacement that would interact with cc:Mail. Can
anyone tell me who that was?
Conversely, what is available to allow rich next mail to go to another
PC/MAC based mail system, and maintain the attachemnts. THis can be with
native NeXT mail or a replacement, and don't hold back with any cwazy
schemes.
Thanks
Wes
--
Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation)
8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cottle@prism.sps.mot.com (Rick Cottle)
Subject: Native NeXT Mosaic??
Message-ID: <1994Jan10.221338.2419@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com
Organization: sps
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 22:13:38 GMT
Anyone know of a NextStep version of Mosaic. I have
run it under coXist (with Mosaic compiled and exeucted
off of and RS/6000), but it would seem SO MUCH NICER
not to have to go in and out of X for this functionality.
Thanks in advance,
Please copy your answers to my email below.
Rick
--
R i c k C o t t l e
Email:cottle@prism.sps.mot.com
From: paulus@nextover.pe.utexas.edu (P. Suryono Adisoemarta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to get WIN31 in 386 Enhanced Mode under SoftPC
Date: 11 Jan 1994 02:21:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2gt2er$dik@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Keywords: SoftPC, Win31, Enhanced mode
Hi, I just install NS/i on our cheap DX/2 66, and I want to run
Framemaker version 4 under SoftPC.
Well after spending 2 hrs to install Frame (the 1.44 drive was very
slow) I can't run Frame because the windows error panel shows
that Frame only runs under 386 Enhanced mode.
Now the question is: how to start windows in 386 mode under SoftPC ?
I tried both 'win f' and 'win w' with no luck.
Thanks for all pointers,
Paulus
--
Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta
paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (NeXTmail Ok)
n5snn@n5snn.ampr.org
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From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail Replacement
Message-ID: <CJG532.GMt@news.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <1994Jan10.215828.5174@weston.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 03:45:02 GMT
Wes Spears writes
[]Early last year, there was a post from a company in London that was
[]building a NeXT Mail replacement that would interact with cc:Mail. Can
[]anyone tell me who that was?
[]
[]Conversely, what is available to allow rich next mail to go to another
[]PC/MAC based mail system, and maintain the attachemnts. THis can be
with
[]native NeXT mail or a replacement, and don't hold back with any cwazy
[]schemes.
The company was Xexos, run by Mark Chamberlain, a wonderful guy (his
girlfriend Claire and cat Chorlie are equally nice :) who put me up on his
couch for a few days last summer. While there I saw their Mail.app
replacement, and it seemed, essentially, ready to rock. It's supposed to
include support for MIME, and I don't know why it has not been released
yet, since I think such a tool would be a winner in the NeXT community. A
couple of other people have mentioned working on Mail.app replacements that
support MIME, but nothing has appeared. Makes little sense to me.....
Hope this is helpful --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scrabble game
Date: 11 Jan 1994 04:47:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2gtb0m$idb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
I recently ran across a NeXTSTEP interface to the old Scrabble board
game. Its obviously an old app (it says "request" instead of
"services" for example) but still runs fine under NS3.2. Aside from
a number of minor irritants, like no "new game" provision, no way to
determine who the winner is, and some poor UI choices (the scores
panel is a menu) the game works fine. But there's no identification
anywhere. It seems that it would be pretty easy to bring this game
up to scratch and add it to growing NeXTSTEP game collection. Anyone
know anything about this app and who wrote it?
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: Need copy of SHIP compiled under NS/Intel
Message-ID: <rawyattCJGAr3.106@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 05:47:27 GMT
Could someone please NeXTmail me a copy of the unix command line binary
ship (used to split up large files to send via NeXTmail) compiled under
NEXTSTEP for Intel. I have "ship"ed a number of files on a black system
only to realize I do not have an Intel binary...pretty smart, huh? :-)
Any help is MUCH appreciated!
-Rob Wyatt
rawyatt@netcom.com
rawyatt@csn.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: looking for Henry McGilton's contact info
Message-ID: <CJG6tA.2Gx@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 04:22:22 GMT
does anyone have the contact info (preferably email)
for Henry McGilton's company that makes font conversion utilities?
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: "mix" fails -need new version
Date: 11 Jan 1994 07:16:41 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2gtjop$80l@news.mic.ucla.edu>
After upgrading NS 3.1 -> NS 3.2, "mix" is kaputt ("mix" is fax/voice
mail software from i.link in Germany). i.link failed to iform me that
mix won't work with NS 3.2 but they *do* have the balls to tell me
that in the future *I* should contact them if I want to upgrade my
operating system. I humbly apologize for not even having thought
about that, your Royal Highness.
Screw these guys.
Does any friendly soul have mix version 2.02 handy? I'd be happy to
FTP it from you, or if you are in the US, I'll pay FedEx for the
floppies (heh! I asked i.link if they would FedEx it to me -"no, too
expensive!") -I'll return the floppies to you.
Heikki Ketola
hketola@sms-usa.com
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Intuitiv 3d wanted
Message-ID: <CJFIp8.BF@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 19:41:31 GMT
Hi,
several requests to:
Olivier Aubin <iansolo@cubx.com>,
info@cubx.com,
intuitiv@cubx.com,
intuitiv_api@cubx.com
for intuitiv3d APP were not answered. Does anybody know why, or doesn t
cubX exist anymore?
thanks for any answers
Manfred
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* 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 *
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Colours and Apps
Message-ID: <1994Jan10.190816.23050@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 19:08:16 GMT
In article <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de> borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes:
>>Hi,
>>
>>since using my "new" used NeXT Colour-Station I've got a problem using
>>colours.
>>
>>Using Pantone-Colours, the NeXT colour panel represents the real colour in
>>a correct way. For example, the NeXT colour panel displays Pantone 355 (a
>>very dark and blue green) correctly as very dark and "blue". But if I like
>>to fill an object on the "working screen" of any App (like Virtuoso), this
>>Pantone 355 changes to another green - the working-screen shows something
>>like Pantone 333 (a very light green without any blue).
>>Printing the whole job (on a NeXT colour printer) will print-out the
>>correct colour(s) - so I think it's just a problem of the way, how the
>>colours are shown within an App.
>>
>>Does anybody know: Is there any way to callibrate just the working space
>>oft the App (favourite: Virtuoso) without changing the callibration of the
>>NeXT colour panel?
>>
This is a bug in Virtuoso (actually, the only one that's bit me). The problem
is that Virtuoso is a 2.1 app, which predates Pantone Colors being included
in the system. I forget exactly what the problem is, but basically,
(1) Altsys knows about this problem
(2) there really isn't a workaround
(3) it's fixed in the next version, which should be out soon.
I'm sure Lorin will have the definitive answer at some point, but just
in case he misses your post...
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WHat is wrong with cs.orst.edu submissions area?
Date: 11 Jan 1994 08:14:43 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2gtn5k$hs@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Something is serious wrong with cs.orst.edu
It takes literally 2 minutes to get a directory listing at any time.
--
"Buzzword Development" the new way for the 90's.
Promising to deliver but not delivering what you promised.
From: andre@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Andre Roberge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with MouseX and external drive
Date: 11 Jan 1994 10:44:11 -0500
Organization: Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON, Canada
Message-ID: <2guhgb$6me@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>
I use MouseX occasionnally and, to save precious space on my harddrive, have
kept all of the files on an external "removable" drive (Bernouilli drive) with
appropriate symbolic links. Most (all?... I'm not sure) of the time, when I
quit MouseX and try to eject the disk from my drive, a panel pops up from the
workspace to tell me that some program is actually using the drive and it can't
eject the disk.
I've tried various thing (like pressing the eject button on my drive) but most
of them render my drive useless (i.e. the NeXT refuses to recognize it anymore)
Any idea? This is on a NeXTstation running 3.0.
Andre Roberge
*** Please do not send NeXTmail to this address (andre@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
You can send NeXTmail to andre@gollum.phys.laurentian.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU)
Subject: Re: MuTeX, MusicTeX installation failed (Q)
Message-ID: <1994Jan11.152930.9010@rob.cs.tu-bs.de>
Organization: Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik, TU-Braunschweig
References: <CJBFnC.25n@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 15:29:30 GMT
skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) writes:
>I had ftped the MuTeX & MusicTeX to my NeXT and tried it through InstantTeX.
>But got the following messages:
> couldn't find tfm file; substituting cmr10
>...
>I found that lines in the musicn20.mf
>file ended with ^M.
Exact is your problem. We installed MusicTeX sucessfully, just by converting the TeX-Files, mf-Files etc. from PC to Unix (normal). Most distributions of MusicTeX are written for PCs. Instead of converting you can do ftp from PC to your NeXT in ascii-mode, this will do.
Good luck
Martin
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From: rcc@cen.encompass.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software on Intel NS
Keywords: Intel, compatibility
Message-ID: <1994Jan11.151404.9582@glv.uucp>
Date: 11 Jan 94 15:14:04 GMT
Sender: rcc@glv.uucp (Chris Carpenter)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Encompass
I'm considering consolidating the machines on my desk (Black box and PC)
into one souped up notebook 486DX 66mhz with local bus video and a docking
station. However I don't want to give up the apps I've grown to love.
Have most apps been rebuilt for Intel based NS? If not is there a notable
list somewhere that I can look at?
Thanks for any info.
--
Chris Carpenter | "We learn from history
rcc@cen.encompass.com | that we do not learn
Encompass, Cary,NC | anything from history."
From: ciusa@cup.portal.com (Gerard - Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Typeology experiences???
Message-ID: <100579@cup.portal.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 07:36:17 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
Has anyone used Typeology by Pinnacle? Any notes
on experience with it are greatly appreciated.
- Gerard
-==- Ciusa Creative Imagineering America
-==- 3208 W. Lake Street Suite 133, Minneapolis, MN 55416
-==- (612)-822-1604 fax (612)-922-4426 ciusa@cup.portal.com
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "mix" fails -need new version
Date: 11 Jan 1994 16:39:47 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2gukoj$936@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <2gtjop$80l@news.mic.ucla.edu>
hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) writes:
>After upgrading NS 3.1 -> NS 3.2, "mix" is kaputt ("mix" is fax/voice
>mail software from i.link in Germany). i.link failed to iform me that
>mix won't work with NS 3.2 but they *do* have the balls to tell me
>that in the future *I* should contact them if I want to upgrade my
>operating system. I humbly apologize for not even having thought
>about that, your Royal Highness.
>Screw these guys.
>Does any friendly soul have mix version 2.02 handy? I'd be happy to
>FTP it from you, or if you are in the US, I'll pay FedEx for the
>floppies (heh! I asked i.link if they would FedEx it to me -"no, too
>expensive!") -I'll return the floppies to you.
>Heikki Ketola
>hketola@sms-usa.com
Tyler at Alembic (mix' distributor in the US) was kind enough to email
me the new version of mix. Thank you very much -Tyler and Alembic
saved my proverbial bacon.
Heikki
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail Replacement
Message-ID: <1994Jan11.102318.11661@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
References: <1994Jan10.215828.5174@weston.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 10:23:18 GMT
In article <1994Jan10.215828.5174@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
writes:
> Early last year, there was a post from a company in London that was
> building a NeXT Mail replacement that would interact with cc:Mail. Can
> anyone tell me who that was?
Us. We've done a lot of work with the product, but just haven't had enough
bodies to finish it, other products (Alice, our financial-market-data product)
have gotten in the way.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WHat is wrong with cs.orst.edu submissions area?
Date: 11 Jan 1994 17:43:38 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2guoga$mja@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2gtn5k$hs@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson writes
> Something is serious wrong with cs.orst.edu
>
> It takes literally 2 minutes to get a directory listing at any
> time.
Just as a data point, I logged in there twice this weekend, and had
absolutely no problems.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: Robert.Claeson@sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where does Mail.app keep its personal address directory?
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 18:35:23
Organization: Data General AB, Stockholm, Sweden
Message-ID: <Robert.Claeson.44.0012978E@sweden.dg.com>
I don't have a NEXTSTEP system to use at the moment, but would need to access
one of my personally created mail aliases with several recipients. Can anybody
please tell me how I in any way can access it? I have the whole of my home
directory accessible as well as a netinfo server. It's just the last piece of
the cake that's missing -- a NEXTSTEP system with all the apps.
Thank's,
Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: david@colossus.rmt.sub.org (David Andel)
Subject: Re: After upgrade to NS 3.2, "mix" (ilink GmbH) does not work.
Message-ID: <1994Jan10.190134.1249@colossus.rmt.sub.org>
Sender: david@colossus.rmt.sub.org
Organization: WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
References: <2gqf3v$4ho@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 19:01:34 GMT
In article <2gqf3v$4ho@news.mic.ucla.edu> hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki
Ketola) writes:
-I just upgraded to NS 3.2 on my NeXTdimension. Everything
-else seems ok but my faxprogram "mix" (by ilink in
-Germany) gives consistently the following error
-message on the console:
-mix:dial 5899216
-mix:remote id: 310 589 9216
-mix:transmitting page 1 at 9600bps
-mix:FaxDaemon couldn't keep up
-mix:onHook
-
-My "mix" is version 1.23. Faxing from my computer is
-critical for me so I would appreciate very much any and all
-help. Should someone have a fix, I can receive
-multimegabyte files as NeXTmail as
-hketola@sms-usa.com Thanks in advance for all help.
-
-Heikki Ketola
-
There has been a patched version (2.0.2), which has been distributed by
ilink (for registrated customers) after this problem with NEXTSTEP 3.2.
*But* (according to the info which came with this upgrade) it is
unevadable to have already installed mix 2.0 or mix 2.0.1. (which has been
necessary for the use of mixfax with NEXTSTEP 3.0 or 3.1). I would suggest
to send your request directly to ilink. Their Email address is
mix@ilink.de. I cannot mail you a fix because this would violate their
copyrights...
--
___________________________________________________________________
David Andel | InterNet: david@colossus.rmt.sub.org | WiNG-Wiesbaden
Wiesbaden | NeXTMail always welcome & preferred! | NEXTSTEP Group
Germany | (...if you have only a boring .signature, send ASCII)
___________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Mail.app font size
Message-ID: <CJH90B.DqE@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 18:07:22 GMT
All of a sudden, the font in which Mail displays incoming articles changed to
a tiny helvetica. Changing the font with the font panel only affects the
list of mail items panel, not the mail article itself.
I believe I can change the font for mail with dwrite Mail NXFontSize 12, but
shouldn't the app use the newly selected font throughout?
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Intuitiv 3d wanted
Message-ID: <nemiroal.14.000A5DFB@bus.orst.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 94 18:21:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: bus.nemiroal.14.000A5DFB
References: <CJFIp8.BF@manki.toppoint.de>
Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis
They are in the process of moving to Palo Alto,California... They should be
in contact with you soon. Try calling (415)-852-0245
Their Intuitiv'3d package is now sold by Intuitiv Systems Inc.
In article <CJFIp8.BF@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred
Roehr) writes:>From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
>Subject: Intuitiv 3d wanted
>Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 19:41:31 GMT
>Hi,
>several requests to:
> Olivier Aubin <iansolo@cubx.com>,
> info@cubx.com,
> intuitiv@cubx.com,
> intuitiv_api@cubx.com
>for intuitiv3d APP were not answered. Does anybody know why, or doesn t
>cubX exist anymore?
>thanks for any answers
>Manfred
>--
>***************************************************************
>* Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de *
>* Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 *
>* 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 *
>* Germany NeXT-mail welcome *
>***************************************************************
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WHat is wrong with cs.orst.edu submissions area?
Message-ID: <nemiroal.15.000A6FC2@bus.orst.edu>
Date: 11 Jan 94 18:26:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: bus.nemiroal.15.000A6FC2
References: <2gtn5k$hs@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2guoga$mja@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis
Yep... I was having the same problem here at OSU downloading stuff from the
outside world. Maybe there was a router problem somewhere down the line.
seems to be fixed now.
In article <2guoga$mja@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
(Stefano Pagiola) writes:>From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
>Subject: Re: WHat is wrong with cs.orst.edu submissions area?
>Date: 11 Jan 1994 17:43:38 GMT
>Robert Nicholson writes
>> Something is serious wrong with cs.orst.edu
>>
>> It takes literally 2 minutes to get a directory listing at any
>> time.
>Just as a data point, I logged in there twice this weekend, and had
>absolutely no problems.
>--
>-
>Stefano Pagiola
>Food Research Institute, Stanford University
>spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
>spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu (John B. Friedman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quix Daydream queries
Date: 11 Jan 1994 18:56:36 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2gusp4$4iq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Had anyone heard of a new DSP box to make a Next into a Mac through
Daydream, to be put out or already out from Quix? The box is supposed to
make a Next run ANY Mac hard or soft ware. I would be most grateful for
any reports of experiences with this or the company. Thanks, John Friedman
From: herbst@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.s.herbst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.0 CD w/ boot-diskette
Keywords: NS 3.0 Motorola For Sale
Message-ID: <CJH4KD.Aot@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
Date: 11 Jan 94 16:31:19 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T
Nextstep 3.0 Black for sale (single copy), complete with boot
diskette..
$75 includes shipping. (USA)
Please contact at e-mail address below.
Thanks,
Bob
--
==============================================================
Bob Herbst Tel: (908)957-6507
AT&T Bell Labs E-mail: bobh@mtketc1.att.com
Middletown, NJ
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: scheme, lisp,ML,prolog for NS/Intel
Message-ID: <1994Jan11.171007.587@news.wesleyan.edu>
From: lipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Jim Lipton)
Date: 11 Jan 94 17:10:05 -0400
Sender: lipton@allegory (Jim Lipton)
Distribution: world
I am looking for an implementation of scheme, lisp and/or ML
that will run on NS/Intel 3.2.
I downloaded Schematik, but it appears to be incompatible with 3.2 (I couldn't
compile it). Is there an MIT scheme available? (I have heard that running an
e-lisp version of scheme with emacs19-for-next may be the only solution, but I
thought I'd ask).
I found out that no one has ported Standard Ml of New Jersey to NS Intel...I
was wondering if anyone knew of a port of some other ML (e.g. caml).
The same goees for Prolog. C-prolog was originally ported to NS 2.0 black box by
the staff at cornell univ. It required substantial patches. Does anyone know if
this has been maintained and upgraded for Intel, or if there are any other
implementations?
Thanks.
Jim Lipton
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Running ftpd?
Message-ID: <westesCJHK1z.4u5@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 22:05:59 GMT
Is there a trick to starting ftpd under 3.2? For some reason, it
immediately terminates on my Intel 3.2 system.
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: looking for Henry McGilton's contact info
In-Reply-To: alex@cs.umd.edu's message of Tue, 11 Jan 1994 04:22:22 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Jan11175913@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <CJG6tA.2Gx@genoa.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 01:59:13 GMT
You can contact Henry at:
henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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From: utata!grisu (Gernot A. Pohl)
Subject: newsreader
Message-ID: <1994Jan11.235451.23425@utata.in-berlin.de>
Keywords: news
Sender: grisu@utata.in-berlin.de
Organization: WY
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 23:54:51 GMT
does exist any .app out there to read news some comfortable on NSfINTELP?
ONLY reply to this:
--
[NeXT-]Mail to grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de
.. viel Spasz!
> Gernot Pohl
\_/ Schoenhauser Allee 5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Software on Intel NS
Message-ID: <bchin.758352010@news.andi.org>
Keywords: Intel, compatibility
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1994Jan11.151404.9582@glv.uucp>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 05:20:10 GMT
rcc@cen.encompass.com writes:
>I'm considering consolidating the machines on my desk (Black box and PC)
>into one souped up notebook 486DX 66mhz with local bus video and a docking
>station. However I don't want to give up the apps I've grown to love.
>Have most apps been rebuilt for Intel based NS? If not is there a notable
>list somewhere that I can look at?
Many apps have been rebuilt for NEXTSTEP/Intel. Probably even most.
However, several notable ones have not and will not for the
forseeable future, include FrameMaker, Illustrator, and Improv.
What apps do you use?
You may have to "upgrade" to different apps that are available for
the Intel.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Re: After upgrade to NS 3.2, "mix" (ilink GmbH) does not work.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 10:43:06 GMT
Heikki Ketola (hketola@agsm.ucla.edu) wrote:
> I just upgraded to NS 3.2 on my NeXTdimension. Everything else seems
> ok but my faxprogram "mix" (by ilink in Germany) gives consistently
> the following error message on the console:
[munch]
In 3.2 NeXT has changed the line disciplines of the terminal drivers
to make them posix compliant. Therefore some parts of mix
(e.g. /private/mix/mixP) have to be replaced. I'd suggest you upgrade
to mix 2.02 (should be less than $50). I also prefer 1.23 but this version
doesn't work with 3.2. I also think, it didn't work with 3.1 either?
Regards, Stephan
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From: izumi@mindseye.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Running ftpd?
Date: 12 Jan 1994 11:38:26 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
Message-ID: <2h0nfi$s12@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <westesCJHK1z.4u5@netcom.com>
In article <westesCJHK1z.4u5@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Is there a trick to starting ftpd under 3.2? For some reason, it
>immediately terminates on my Intel 3.2 system.
It should if you try to run it by hand.
Ftpd is not supposed to be started from command line or from script.
It is started from "inetd" automatically when someone tries to
connect.
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Running ftpd?
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 09:49:57 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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In-Reply-To: <westesCJHK1z.4u5@netcom.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Jan-94 Running ftpd? by
Will Estes@netcom.com
> Is there a trick to starting ftpd under 3.2? For some reason, it
> immediately terminates on my Intel 3.2 system.
Yes, don't try to start it yourself. There's a master daemon called
inetd that starts up the other service daemons correctly for you (such
as ftpd, telnetd, rlogind, etc). It (should) just work. Take a look at
"man inetd" and "man services".
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Software on Intel NS
Message-ID: <CJItwt.9oL@dvorak.amd.com>
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Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
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Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 14:36:28 GMT
In article <bchin.758352010@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
writes:
>>rcc@cen.encompass.com writes:
>>
>>>I'm considering consolidating the machines on my desk (Black box and PC)
>>>into one souped up notebook 486DX 66mhz with local bus video and a docking
>>>station. However I don't want to give up the apps I've grown to love.
>>
>>>Have most apps been rebuilt for Intel based NS? If not is there a notable
>>>list somewhere that I can look at?
>>
>>Many apps have been rebuilt for NEXTSTEP/Intel. Probably even most.
>>However, several notable ones have not and will not for the
>>forseeable future, include FrameMaker, Illustrator, and Improv.
>>
>>What apps do you use?
And to add insult to injury, Frame Technologies is doing a PowerPC port. "Sorry
NeXTheads, we can't do a Frame4.0 there is enough of an installed base" - not
like the PowerPC of course!
SoftPC sales on NS/FIP soar...not! ;-)
P.S. This is a pre-first-coffee post
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
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From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Re: "mix" fails -need new version
Message-ID: <1994Jan12.025603.9183@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <2gukoj$936@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 02:56:03 GMT
In article <2gukoj$936@news.mic.ucla.edu> hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki
Ketola) writes:
> hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) writes:
>
> >After upgrading NS 3.1 -> NS 3.2, "mix" is kaputt ("mix" is fax/voice
> >mail software from i.link in Germany). i.link failed to iform me that
> >mix won't work with NS 3.2 but they *do* have the balls to tell me
> >that in the future *I* should contact them if I want to upgrade my
> >operating system. I humbly apologize for not even having thought
> >about that, your Royal Highness.
>
> >Screw these guys.
>
> >Does any friendly soul have mix version 2.02 handy? I'd be happy to
> >FTP it from you, or if you are in the US, I'll pay FedEx for the
> >floppies (heh! I asked i.link if they would FedEx it to me -"no, too
> >expensive!") -I'll return the floppies to you.
>
> >Heikki Ketola
> >hketola@sms-usa.com
>
> Tyler at Alembic (mix' distributor in the US) was kind enough to email
> me the new version of mix. Thank you very much -Tyler and Alembic
> saved my proverbial bacon.
> Heikki
Maybe someone could post a summary regarding MIX. I just purchased and
although I am currently pleased with the product, I am noticing that is
does not fax. But, maybe I am doing something wrong?
Fax attempts are properly queued in the fax directory, but simply hang
there with the PrintManger showing a status of "Printing". The MIX box
stays green.
I am running NS 3.2 and have MIX 2.0 installed. Is there a MIX 2.2? If
so, is it offically released yet. If so, why did I receive 2.0? When
does 2.2 become available and what fixes does it provide?
Good job Tyler, good to see people still provide service before worrying
about squeezing dollars over shipping charges.
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
Email: Neil@bMD.com [NeXTmail]
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Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mason@ssd0.nrl.navy.mil (Jeff)
Subject: Conversational boot on Next ??
Message-ID: <mason-120194120710@ssdmac.nrl.navy.mil>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 17:12:07 GMT
Does anyone know how to get around not knowing the system password on
a Next system. It's the one that's "black" (I don't know if they're
all black or not?). Basically, we have someone who left and took a
lot of info and documentation with him. We also do not have the original
CD-ROM distribution.
Any clues? Hints?
Thanks, and please respond directly to me, as I do not read this
newsgroup.
Jeff Mason
mason@ssd0.nrl.navy.mil
(202) 767-2651
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From: sdavis@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis)
Subject: Cyrillic font, Russian KB for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994Jan12.164753.13590@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 16:47:53 GMT
Greetings!
Does anyone know of a Cyrillic font package available for NeXTstep computers?
I'm using a NSTC. Also, is there a specific Russian keyboard mapping
available?
Thanks,
Steve
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From: markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (Markus Stoll)
Subject: Re: AudioCD and Apple CD150
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: <1994Jan11.225500.14931@isolde.stgt.sub.org>
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Organization: GbR Stoll & Stoeffler, Stuttgart, Germany
References: <1994Jan6.134912.7312@isolde.stgt.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 22:55:00 GMT
Because many people asked me for my Apple-CD150-Player, I will
place it within 2 day on "ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de".
As I told you, it is a VERY basic pre-release, but it plays
Audio-CDs.
Some guys asked me to mail it immedeately. Sorry, but I have
to pay for international mail, so look for it on the common
ftp-servers.
Markus
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Markus Stoll, markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (NeXTMail preferred)
stoll@vaxph.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de
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From: stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn)
Subject: Looking for mail filtering application
Message-ID: <CJIyq0.4H3@pts.mot.com>
Keywords: mail filter, next, mail tool
Sender: news@pts.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging and Wireless Data Group, Boynton Beach, FL
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 16:20:24 GMT
I'm looking for a NeXT tool that will filter incoming mail into different
mailboxes or folders [or whatever] based on who sent the mail. Is there
anything out there that works with NeXTMail under 3.2.
Any pointers?
Thanks,
Stu
------------------------------------------------------------
Stuart Hamlyn
Motorola Inc.
Applied Research MS 71
1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue
Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292
(407)-364-3997
(407)-364-3904 (FAX)
stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com [NeXTMail preferred]
From: Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: pop mail
Date: 12 Jan 1994 18:37:05 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h1g0h$606@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Keywords: mailapp
Does anyone know of the name of the POP mail client for the Black
Boxes operating under NeXTSTEP 3.0?
I am also interested in finding out if the app is located in the repositories sonata, cs.orst, or etc...
Please send any and all replies to this matter directly to me at:
Charles.Dudley@umich.edu
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(800) 942 - 9304 VoiceMailbox 21240cs.orst, or etc...
Please send any and all replies to this matter directly to me at:
Charles.Dudley@umich.edu
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From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: Colours and Apps
Message-ID: <CJHD0p.3qz@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de> <1994Jan10.190816.23050@news.media.mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 19:34:01 GMT
wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>In article <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de> borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes:
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>since using my "new" used NeXT Colour-Station I've got a problem using
>>>colours.
>>>
>>>Using Pantone-Colours, the NeXT colour panel represents the real colour in
>>>a correct way. For example, the NeXT colour panel displays Pantone 355 (a
>>>very dark and blue green) correctly as very dark and "blue". But if I like
>>>to fill an object on the "working screen" of any App (like Virtuoso), this
>>>Pantone 355 changes to another green - the working-screen shows something
>>>like Pantone 333 (a very light green without any blue).
>>>Printing the whole job (on a NeXT colour printer) will print-out the
>>>correct colour(s) - so I think it's just a problem of the way, how the
>>>colours are shown within an App.
>>>
>>>Does anybody know: Is there any way to callibrate just the working space
>>>oft the App (favourite: Virtuoso) without changing the callibration of the
>>>NeXT colour panel?
>>>
>This is a bug in Virtuoso (actually, the only one that's bit me). The problem
>is that Virtuoso is a 2.1 app, which predates Pantone Colors being included
>in the system. I forget exactly what the problem is, but basically,
>(1) Altsys knows about this problem
>(2) there really isn't a workaround
>(3) it's fixed in the next version, which should be out soon.
>I'm sure Lorin will have the definitive answer at some point, but just
>in case he misses your post...
>--
>--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
>--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
>--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
>--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Does the above statement: "Printing the whole job (on a NeXT colour printer)
will print-out the correct colour(s)" imply that Virtuoso has incorporated
color correction to handle the "blue color problem"; i.e., blue prints
out as purple on a NeXT Color Printer in apps such as Create and Image.
If this problem is corrected in Virtuoso, I certainly would like to know
about it. Thanks for your anticipated response.
--Tim
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From: bakerb@il.us.swissbank.com (Brian Baker)
Subject: Looking for "Shelf" view
Message-ID: <1994Jan12.214031.15707@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 21:40:31 GMT
Greetings,
I'm trying to locate a view which implements a shelf similar to the one in
the Workspace file browser. If anyone knows where I can find such a
thing, either as a commercial product or PD source code, please let me
know.
Thanks,
Brian Baker.
bakerb@swissbank.com
bbaker@its.com
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From: bakerb@il.us.swissbank.com (Brian Baker)
Subject: Looking for scrolling icon view
Message-ID: <1994Jan12.214321.15769@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 21:43:21 GMT
Greetings,
I'm trying to locate a view which implements a scrolling list of icons
similar to the list above the browser in the Workspace file viewer. If
anyone knows where I can find such a thing, either as a commercial product
or PD source code, please let me know.
Thanks,
Brian Baker.
bakerb@swissbank.com
bbaker@its.com
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From: noble@narnia.ie.missouri.edu
Subject: BackSpaceDuo and GrayAquarium
Message-ID: <1994Jan12.222537.8997@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 22:25:37 GMT
I recently got both BackSpaceDuo and GrayAquarium from
cs.orstedu and installed them. I was wondering if others had experienced
any troubles with either of them separately or together? I have found
that when running them after awhile I start to experience mysterious
loss of hard disk (1 to 3 MB at a time). Needless to say I am not
currently running them, but I like the fish screensaver (better than
using AutoDim)! Any insights would be appreciated.
JSN
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From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteNow in NS/I 3.2
Date: 12 Jan 1994 23:10:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2h200e$761@news.service.uci.edu>
I just noticed that I could not find WriteNow application under NS/i 3.2.
The 3.1 3.2 User Manual does not even mention it.
Does NS/I 3.2 have it at all?
I want it not because I like it, but because I have many files in that
format. I used WriteNow to type envelopes and labels.
Thanks for any info.
Feng Liu
From: gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need driver to convert 16-bit to 8-bit color
Date: 13 Jan 1994 00:40:12 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h259c$2di@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I have 1MB of VRAM on a notebook with a color active
matrix display. This supports 8-bit color but since
NEXTSTEP only supports 16-bit color it will display
only monochrome.
Does anyone know how to go about writing a driver to
convert the 16-bit output to 8-bit so that this system
would support color?
Would anyone be willing to write such a driver, perhaps
for a small fee?
-- Greg
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteUp ?
Date: 13 Jan 1994 01:29:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h2865$bip@agate.berkeley.edu>
It is 12 days into 1994. Is WriteUp from AFS shipping, or $1/day
late rebate accuring somewhere for me? :-)
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From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for mail filtering application
Date: 13 Jan 1994 04:48:58 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h2jrq$eig@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <CJIyq0.4H3@pts.mot.com>
elm, part of the GNU distribution, comes with a filtering tool that does just
what you need.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for mail filtering application
Date: 13 Jan 1994 00:27:43 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h2m4f$sb3@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <2h2jrq$eig@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> writes
> elm, part of the GNU distribution, comes with a filtering tool that does just
> what you need.
Ugh.
How about Mail.app with Carl Edman's Mailapp Utils and Procmail?
I've been running this setup since last April without any problems. It
sorts my mail into seperate .mboxes, sends out auto-replys for
comp.sys.next.announce, and even tosses mail from thugs and nare-do-wells that
I don't want mail from.
Its an easy setup, with some small limitations, but nothing that has
had any major drawbacks.
If you want to know more about this combination, drop me some email
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: pgriffin@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (Paul A. Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BackSpaceDuo and GrayAquarium
Date: 13 Jan 1994 06:10:34 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville
Message-ID: <2h2okqINNhg7@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
References: <1994Jan12.222537.8997@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
In article <1994Jan12.222537.8997@mont.cs.missouri.edu> noble@narnia.ie.missouri.edu writes:
>I recently got both BackSpaceDuo and GrayAquarium from
>cs.orstedu and installed them. I was wondering if others had experienced
>any troubles with either of them separately or together? I have found
>that when running them after awhile I start to experience mysterious
>loss of hard disk (1 to 3 MB at a time). Needless to say I am not
>currently running them, but I like the fish screensaver (better than
>using AutoDim)! Any insights would be appreciated.
>
>JSN
>
>--
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>James S. Noble, Assistant Professor
>...
I recently reposted GrayAquarium.tar.Z to the oregon state and muenchen
archives (1/10/94). The new version fixes a couple of initialization
bugs that I discovered when I tried to use the color fish that were
recently posted by Joe Riess (Reiss?).
However, I have been running the combination of the old GrayAquarium and
"BackSpaceDuo" on two machines since September and have not experienced
any gradual loss of disk space.
In fact, I just did a little experiment
where I flipped back and forth between GrayAquarium (as background) and
another module (as screensaver) 50 times, and the disk available displayed
by the File Viewer didn't budge. This is consistant with the notion that
the BackSpaceDuo doesn't eat up memory as you flip back and forth between
modules.
My guess to what may be happening is the following: on my machine,
(a lowly NeXTstation), BackSpace in "Duo" mode with GrayAquarium as the
background module takes up about 2.2 Meg of real memory, and 5.2 Meg of
total memory. If you are already saturating your swap disk with memory
requirements from "heavy" applications like Mathematica, the system
might ask for more swap disk, thereby depleting your available memory.
Oh well, I'm not a professional computer programmer, so what do I know!
The postings of both GrayAquarium and BackSpaceDuo come with the source,
so anyone with NS experience can judge for themselves.
--Paul Griffin (posted both BackSpaceDuo and GrayAquarium)
--
Paul A. Griffin, pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu
Physics Department, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL, 32611
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Subject: Re: Where does Mail.app keep its personal address directory?
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.054551.20979@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <Robert.Claeson.44.0012978E@sweden.dg.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 05:45:51 GMT
In article <Robert.Claeson.44.0012978E@sweden.dg.com>
Robert.Claeson@sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson) writes:
> I don't have a NEXTSTEP system to use at the moment, but would need to access
> one of my personally created mail aliases with several recipients. Can
anybody
> please tell me how I in any way can access it?
..
~/.NeXT/.mailalias is the file. It's a formatted file ( Mail.app formats it),
but you can read it, i.e. 'cat .NeXT/.mailalias'
--
James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab
Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Colours and Apps
Date: 13 Jan 1994 08:30:34 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2h30ra$n0c@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de> <1994Jan10.190816.23050@news.media.mit.edu> <CJHD0p.3qz@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Virtuoso uses CMYK colors on-screen. To get improved rendering of
CMYK colors, use the NXCMYKAdjust default (set it to Yes). This
will use Neugebauer equations to map CMYK -> RGB and vice versa
for the screen. See the 3.1 release notes (WindowServer) for details
on the paramaters used.
Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: Re: "mix" fails -need new version
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.081930.807@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <1994Jan12.025603.9183@bMD.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 08:19:30 GMT
In article <1994Jan12.025603.9183@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes:
[munch]
NeXT changed the fax interface when going from 3.1 -> 3.2 (as i.link told me).
Don't forget, they have to take over part of NeXT's fax interface, since that
one only works for serial devices and the dsp port is quite something else.
Which also implies that you have to unload mix, upgrade, and then load mix to
get everything to work properly.
You can get mix 2.0.2 from i.link or alembic. It solves that problem.
---
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stephan@jaeger.ka.sub.org (Stephan Jaeger)
Subject: Information about MicroPhone or CompuServe ?
Message-ID: <CJJGxs.KH@jaeger.ka.sub.org>
Sender: stephan@jaeger.ka.sub.org (Stephan Jaeger)
Organization: Stephan's Unox Bastelladen
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 22:53:51 GMT
Hello people out there in NeXTland,
are any applications available for down- and uploading files, messages,
mails accessing CompuServe and for reading/writing these messages
online/offline ?
Or did anyone try to write MicroPhone-Modules for these problems, perhaps
using/expanding the Loran-Module of MicroPhone ?
Exists there a mailing-list for MicroPhone ?
In their (SVC's) BBS exists an ZyXEL-modem-driver.
But to download this driver from Germany is too expensive.
Does anybody knows other ways to get this driver ?
Is there an archive for MicroPhone-modules or drivers accessable via ftp ?
Thanks in advance,
Stephan Jaeger
--
Stephan Jaeger, Rheinstr. 40, D-76185 Karlsruhe
Tel & Fax : +49 721 554293
e-mail : stephan@jaeger.ka.sub.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann)
Subject: Re: VarioData
Message-ID: <1994Jan12.082819.1092@kurt.in-berlin.de>
Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de
References: <CJF6zK.DFo@eunet.ch>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 08:28:19 GMT
In article <CJF6zK.DFo@eunet.ch> Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian
Gutzwiller) writes:
> Can anybody direct me to more information and the author of VarioData?
On most of the next-ftp-server demo versions of VarioData available.
E.G. ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de
> Thanks
No matter.
Gerald
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| GERALD ERDMANN
| email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome)
| voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin)
| crypt: pgp2 puplic key available
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: "mix" fails -need new version
Message-ID: <1994Jan12.223014.474@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <2gtjop$80l@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 22:30:14 GMT
In article <2gtjop$80l@news.mic.ucla.edu> hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
writes:
> After upgrading NS 3.1 -> NS 3.2, "mix" is kaputt ("mix" is fax/voice
> mail software from i.link in Germany). i.link failed to iform me that
> mix won't work with NS 3.2 but they *do* have the balls to tell me
> that in the future *I* should contact them if I want to upgrade my
> operating system. I humbly apologize for not even having thought
> about that, your Royal Highness.
>
> Screw these guys.
Since we have gotten very friendly support from the guys at i.link, I thought
that I should comment this.
First, you should know that the developers here in Germany only got an early
access version of NEXTSTEP 3.2 a few days before it was released officially in
the U.S.
So there wasn't a lot of time to test the software or even inform all customers
about potential problems. We had the same problems with DOTS, our printer
driver program, and we are still trying to fix some of the bugs that occur only
in 3.2.
Note that both MIX and DOTS access low level functions of NEXTSTEP which are
not always fully documented (and even programs like Dataphile that do not
access low level functions broke under 3.2).
I also don't think that it is extremely unusual to ask customers to test
carefully before upgrading an OS. At least I can't remember any OS upgrade that
didn't break some of the applications that I was using.
> Does any friendly soul have mix version 2.02 handy? I'd be happy to
> FTP it from you, or if you are in the US, I'll pay FedEx for the
> floppies (heh! I asked i.link if they would FedEx it to me -"no, too
> expensive!") -I'll return the floppies to you.
You should be aware that electronic mail and Federal Express from Europe to the
U.S. are much more expensive than many people think. Regular e-mail costs
approx. $300 per MB and even the least expensive Federal Express package is
almost $50. So european companies can't just send out free updates to all users
this way. Especially for a low priced $149 application like DOTS.
We will however put new software versions on archives as soon as possible.
And of course you can always contact Alembic who is the U.S. distributor for
many european applications.
Wilfried Beeck
d'ART Software GmbH
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where are gdbAdaptor and GraphView?
Date: 13 Jan 1994 15:44:26 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h3q8q$4i0@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sorry for the dumb question, but I've heard mention of
both the gnu database adaptor (gdbAdaptor?) and
the GraphView.palette, and I can't seem to find either
at the usual sites (cs.orst.edu and sonata.cc.purdue.edu).
Have sonata's problems caused people to turn to some
new archive site that I don't know about, or are these
two items just buried in some hole I haven't yet
stumbled into?
Thanks for your help!
--Bob--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres......
.cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center
.*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771.............
.FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276...........
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Re: "mix" fails -need new version
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.152242.14728@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
References: <1994Jan12.025603.9183@bMD.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 15:22:42 GMT
In article <1994Jan12.025603.9183@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
writes:
> In article <2gukoj$936@news.mic.ucla.edu> hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki
> Ketola) writes:
> > hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola) writes:
> >
> > >After upgrading NS 3.1 -> NS 3.2, "mix" is kaputt ("mix" is fax/voice
> > >mail software from i.link in Germany). i.link failed to iform me
that
> > >mix won't work with NS 3.2 but they *do* have the balls to tell me
> > >that in the future *I* should contact them if I want to upgrade my
> > >operating system. I humbly apologize for not even having thought
> > >about that, your Royal Highness.
> >
> > >Screw these guys.
> >
> > >Does any friendly soul have mix version 2.02 handy? I'd be happy to
> > >FTP it from you, or if you are in the US, I'll pay FedEx for the
> > >floppies (heh! I asked i.link if they would FedEx it to me -"no, too
> > >expensive!") -I'll return the floppies to you.
> >
> > >Heikki Ketola
> > >hketola@sms-usa.com
> >
> > Tyler at Alembic (mix' distributor in the US) was kind enough to email
> > me the new version of mix. Thank you very much -Tyler and Alembic
> > saved my proverbial bacon.
> > Heikki
>
> Maybe someone could post a summary regarding MIX. I just purchased and
> although I am currently pleased with the product, I am noticing that is
> does not fax. But, maybe I am doing something wrong?
>
> Fax attempts are properly queued in the fax directory, but simply hang
> there with the PrintManger showing a status of "Printing". The MIX box
> stays green.
>
> I am running NS 3.2 and have MIX 2.0 installed. Is there a MIX 2.2? If
> so, is it offically released yet. If so, why did I receive 2.0? When
> does 2.2 become available and what fixes does it provide?
>
> Good job Tyler, good to see people still provide service before worrying
> about squeezing dollars over shipping charges.
Problem solved. I would like to thank Tyler at Alembic once again and to
Piers with iLink in contacting me. Although they did not directly solve
my problem, of which there really was none, their follow-up and concern
for a new user was well appreciated.
As reported, Mix 2.02 fixes the faxing problem with 3.2. I will be
receiving an update soon, when available. But, please note, modifying the
answering scripts as a user other then root caused the Mix to appear
broken when attempting to play the outgoing message. Saving these scripts
as root or via open sesame as root corrected the problem.
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest-nscst-tnt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Information about MicroPhone or CompuServe
Message-ID: <CJKrA3.IL1@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Date: 13 Jan 94 15:34:51 GMT
References: <CJJGxs.KH@jaeger.ka.sub.org>
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
Well, I know this isn't exactly what you're after, but there is a kermit
script on Compu$erve (in the Next Forum in Data Library 3 - Communications)
that will automagically *download* *email* from CI$ and transfer it to your
Unix/Next mail spool. Binary files are left in /tmp and you are mailed an
advice with the information about the file that the sender provided.
I wrote it and use it (it's a cron job). I'm not sure if anyone else does.
There is no provision for replying from your Next, but the next time I get
some time off, I might have the wrestling match with sendmail and netinfo and
put something together.
--
Mark Wuest
mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (NeXT Mail Ok)
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cub'X Users?
Date: 13 Jan 1994 16:04:22 GMT
Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK.
Message-ID: <2h3re6$5ik@mercury.dur.ac.uk>
I'd like to talk to other Cub'X users about a few configuration
possibilities...basically what I want to know is the following:
1) is it possible to setup cubx such that instead of using a
window manager it uses Workspace style windows, resize and close
and minaiturise based on that?
2) is it possible to configure cub'x such that you can run
different window managers on :0 and :1 if you want two servers
running at the same time?
3) has anyone gotten cub'x to run with a virtual window manager
as well as VirtSpace in :1 (inside nextstep)?
Just looking for some enhancements to my setup (I've given up on
getting Mosaic to run on Cub'X, unless its 8 bit mode, which takes
about 5 seconds to swap virtual windows in outside nextstep mode..)
Thanks,
scott
From: s010@ii.uib.no (Jarle Lyngaas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Binaries
Date: 13 Jan 1994 16:44:44 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Message-ID: <2h3tps$nnu@alf.uib.no>
I've got into deep trouble getting software for my 040 NeXT
to work (rayshade), so may somebody suggest where to ftp
binaries? I'm getting tired of compiling the software just
to get it not working after all..
Thanx.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need testing of MAB 5/89 version of zmodem
Date: 13 Jan 1994 16:45:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h3ts5$ffi@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I need to provide zmodem capability to a client's customers who use
NS/FIP. I've compiled the 5/89 version of zmodem from the NeXT archives
FAT but need someone to test it on Intel architecture (is a more recent
version available and if so, where?). I've done nothing to the code to
deal with byte order differences, but I doubt this is necessary.
So if you have access to both NeXT and Intel hardware and would like to
test sending and receiving between the 2 architectures using my MAB
zmodem, please contact me with your email address so I can send them to
you via email (I'll create an Installer package which will create the
correct links in your chosen installation directory).
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: "mix" fails -update
Date: 13 Jan 1994 18:17:40 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2h4384$ea6@news.mic.ucla.edu>
As I started the discussion on mix failing I guess I should bring an
update.
a) my mix works now. I had mix 1.23, then I received mix 2.0 from
Alembic (they are very helpful -all kudos to them!) which didn't work
either. Somebody did let me FTP their upgrade disk to mix 2.0.2 and
NOW mix works for me.
Alembic was very helpful, "someone" was very helpful, i.link i sstill
discussing with me about the cost of of sending me an upgrade. By the
way, I ended up emailing the upgrade to Tyler at Alembic as it was my
understanding that i.link had not given it to him either -I could be
wrong here though but I did email it him :-)
b) someone pointed out that the failure of mix to work after an
upgrade is not the fault of i.link. I agree with that -after all NS
3.2 was done by NeXT and i.link has no control on what happens after
installing NS 3.2. What I still am upset about is the attitude of
"sorry it is not fault -tough luck for you mister". The "right" way
would have been, for example, for i.link to provide Alembic with a
working version of mix and we all would have been reasonably happy.
c) We all know that sh*t happens. After every NS upgrade I have had
things go wrong, and I had to fix them. That's just the way it goes
and neXT upgrades overall have been really smooth. I am griping about
a vendor's customer service. I have now a working program, not
thanks to the vendor, but thanks to the helpful people at Alembic and
the helpful people on the net.
Send me email of you if you want to discuss this particular issue
further as this must be boring to non-mix people. A new constructive
thread could be "What makes us perceive a vendor as a winner and/or as
a dog?"
Heikki Ketola
hketola@sms-usa.com
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next,sysadmin
Subject: f2c on NeXTstep Intel
Date: 13 Jan 1994 18:59:24 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h45mc$3jd@news.iastate.edu>
We have an NS486 machine on which a fellow wants to do some scientific
programming. He's literate only in Fortran and installing the f2c fortran
compiler seems the easiest way to go. Before I go re-inventing the wheel
(my memory is that while f2c compiles straightforwardly on NeXT the
installation is somewhat time-consuming) has anyone installed this already?
If so, could you be persuaded to NeXTmail the binaries and relevant
libraries, etc.
Any and all help much appreciated --- Thanks in advance --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dgoodwin@fossa.rmNUG.ORG (Doug Goodwin)
Subject: Re: Looking for mail filtering application
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.050609.4316@fossa.rmnug.org>
Keywords: NeXTmail ELM filter e-mail
Sender: dgoodwin@fossa.rmnug.org (Doug Goodwin)
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <CJIyq0.4H3@pts.mot.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 05:06:09 GMT
Dear Stu,
I suggest that you install ELM and its filter program. The documentation is
good and ELM will put mail into subject mailboxes after it arrives in your mail
spool file. Filtering may be done based on subject, sender, etc. and you may
choose a variety of actions for filtered mail.
The catch in this arrangement is reading NeXTmail once plugged into an ELM
style mailbox. There are ways to convert NeXTmail into the sum of its parts,
but it's not a pretty prospect.
There are some good tips on comiling ELM for NeXTSTEP which I naturally tossed
out once I succeeded. I believe they are mentioned in the README for ELM. The
compile was otherwise easier than most on the NeXT, and I've been really happy
with ELM.
Good luck!
Doug Goodwin
dgoodwin@fossa.rmnug.org
In article <CJIyq0.4H3@pts.mot.com> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn)
writes:
> I'm looking for a NeXT tool that will filter incoming mail into different
> mailboxes or folders [or whatever] based on who sent the mail. Is there
> anything out there that works with NeXTMail under 3.2.
>
> Any pointers?
>
> Thanks,
> Stu
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Stuart Hamlyn
> Motorola Inc.
> Applied Research MS 71
> 1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue
> Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292
> (407)-364-3997
> (407)-364-3904 (FAX)
> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com [NeXTMail preferred]
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for mail filtering application
Date: 13 Jan 1994 19:39:25 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2h481d$am@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <CJIyq0.4H3@pts.mot.com> <1994Jan13.050609.4316@fossa.rmnug.org>
Keywords: NeXTmail ELM filter e-mail
dgoodwin@fossa.rmNUG.ORG (Doug Goodwin) wrote
>Dear Stu,
>
>I suggest that you install ELM and its filter program. The documentation is
>good and ELM will put mail into subject mailboxes after it arrives in your mail
>spool file. Filtering may be done based on subject, sender, etc. and you may
>choose a variety of actions for filtered mail.
Please don't do this. Elm's filtering is trivial you can do a lot
more with procmail. It's specially designed for this. Forget elm just
for filtering. I use Elm all the time but I have procmail installed
and as Scott suggested I'm also using Carl Edmans mail-utilities stuff
which allows me to filter mail in to both ordinary and NeXTMAIL
mailboxes accordingly.
>
>The catch in this arrangement is reading NeXTmail once plugged into an ELM
>style mailbox. There are ways to convert NeXTmail into the sum of its parts,
>but it's not a pretty prospect.
Put this rule in your .procmailrc file.
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail # You'd better make sure it exists
# all NeXTMail to $SPOOLDIR
::
^Next-Attachment
/usr/spool/mail/robert
This ensures that all NeXTMail goes where Mail.app wants it.
I have things like
::
^TOnext-prog
next-prog
which stores Next programmer list mail into an ordinary mailbox
format.
I have heard the procmail is a pain to install with 3.2 I haven't
tried it myself as I'm still running 3.1
SOURCE
This program is part of the procmail mail-processing-package
(v2.92pre9 1993/11/29) available at your nearest USENET
comp.sources.misc archive, or at ftp.informatik.rwth-
aachen.de (137.226.112.172) as pub/unix/procmail.tar.Z.
--
"You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant)
"Nothing" Charade, 1963
robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (ASCII for text only messages)
From: daville@dannug.dk (David Amzallag)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quix Daydream queries
Date: 13 Jan 1994 14:13:48 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401131837.AA00276@imagina.dannug.dk>
About "daydream" from Quix you may contact Tim Griswold, Dancing Bear Enterprises,
2622 Cortina Lane, P.O. Box 4667, Vail, CO 81658-4667, USA, at e-mail:
tim@dancingbear.com
From Dancing Bear Enterprises_ catalog dated January 8, 1994:
...
We have also added several new product lines, most significantly, we are now an
authorized reseller of "daydream" from Quix. Daydream is a new product that will begin
shipping this month. Daydream is a small device about the size of a deck of cards plugs
into the DSP (Digital Signal Processing) port on the back of your NeXT. In this unit are a
set of fully licensed Apple Macintosh_ ROMs. There is also a daydream application that
you load on your disk. When you reboot your system and you are greeted with the
standard Macintosh System 7.1_ Desktop. You have just converted your NeXT into a very
fast Mac!!!! The installation takes less than five minutes, requires no screwdriver, no disk
partitioning, nor any other special considerations. You can toggle back and forth from Mac
to NeXT anytime you want.There is more info on the following pages. Contact us directly
or via E-Mail if you would like even more. Please note, there is a special introductory price
that will only be good through the end of February.DON'T DALLY!.
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: "mix" fails -need new version
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.205022.7925@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994Jan12.223014.474@dart.de>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 20:50:22 GMT
In article <1994Jan12.223014.474@dart.de> wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
writes:
> You should be aware that electronic mail and Federal Express from Europe
to the
> U.S. are much more expensive than many people think. Regular e-mail
costs
> approx. $300 per MB and even the least expensive Federal Express package
is
> almost $50. So european companies can't just send out free updates to
all users
> this way. Especially for a low priced $149 application like DOTS.
While I will agree that parcel psot, just like money transfer, between the
USA and Europe is slow and expensive, email is not (at least for us here
in England). The UK has good cheap Internet links; I would estimate my
cost of email, via a commercial provide, to be well under one pound per
megabyte.
Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Information about MicroPhone or CompuServe ?
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.205357.7983@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <CJJGxs.KH@jaeger.ka.sub.org>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 20:53:57 GMT
In article <CJJGxs.KH@jaeger.ka.sub.org> stephan@jaeger.ka.sub.org
(Stephan Jaeger) writes:
> are any applications available for down- and uploading files, messages,
> mails accessing CompuServe and for reading/writing these messages
> online/offline ?
>
> Or did anyone try to write MicroPhone-Modules for these problems,
perhaps
> using/expanding the Loran-Module of MicroPhone ?
There isn't anything available to automate Compuserve connections, apart
from the script that Mark Wuest mentioned. I have written some kermit
scripts to feed CIS forum sections into news, but I have never really
finished them off for distribution.
I think that a news interface is the best way to go.
Paul
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Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sdavis@worf.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis)
Subject: Re: Cyrillic font, Russian KB for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.205348.2270@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA
References: <1994Jan12.164753.13590@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 20:53:48 GMT
Thanks to everyone for all of the responses. For anyone else who might be
looking, the unanimous choice was the CyrillicGothic.font package available on
sonata.cc.purdue.edu under /pub/next/misc/fonts.
Regards,
Steve
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From: markpam@grafton.dartmouth.edu (Mark Sheingorn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ppp
Date: 13 Jan 1994 22:11:20 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Message-ID: <2h4gu8$m3t@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
can anyone tell me if i can run ppp under ns3.0 on a color turbo?
i am willing to pay, say $500 ...
thanks for any help ...
mark s.
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From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: Improv file formats?
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.231236.28149@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 23:12:36 GMT
Does anyone know where I can find information about Improv file formats?
Just in case my NeXTstation dies someday and I have to upgrade to something
else, I would like to be able to retrieve the information that I have stored
in Improv spreadsheets. Source code for a filter would be helpful also if
such a thing exists. Thanks.
Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mehta-anand@yale.edu
Subject: extracting attachments from many posts
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.221328.5943@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 22:13:28 GMT
I would like to extract about 51 attachments from comp.sources.postscript.
Is there a quicker way to do this than manually reading each on in NG and
copying it over? This is very time-consuming, not to mention boring. Any
help with regards to utilities or quick Unix solutions would be wonderful.
Thanks,
-Anand
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From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: seeking text to speech converter
Date: 14 Jan 1994 00:44:20 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2h4pt4$k4s@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Hi all!
A new potential user of our computers is visually impaired.
Is anybody out there aware of any speech to text tool that
might be used to give access to the computer? Any experience
is this situation will be extremely helpful.
Thanks in advance!
-- Fernando
nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: scheme, lisp,ML,prolog for NS/Intel
In-Reply-To: lipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu's message of 11 Jan 94 17:10:05 -0400
To: lipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Jim Lipton)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jan13083447@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Jan11.171007.587@news.wesleyan.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 13:34:47 GMT
In article <1994Jan11.171007.587@news.wesleyan.edu> lipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Jim Lipton) writes:
I downloaded Schematik, but it appears to be incompatible with 3.2 (I couldn't
compile it). Is there an MIT scheme available? (I have heard that running an
e-lisp version of scheme with emacs19-for-next may be the only solution, but I
thought I'd ask).
Well, I haven't tried compiling Schematik under NS3.2, but I just
started my old binary and it came up just fine with this message:
;Scheme Microcode Version 11.59
;MIT Scheme running under NeXT
;
;Scheme saved on Thursday September 3, 1992 at 9:40:56 AM
; Release 7.1.3
; Microcode 11.59
; Runtime 14.104
; Schematik 1.1
Why don't you try and get the binary for Schematik instead if you have
compilation problems ?
BTW, MIT Scheme 7.3 which does run under NS (like 7.1 and in contrast
to 7.2) had a beta release just a few weeks ago and the final release
is promised for some time this month. Almost certainly you could get
it and run it with Schematik as well.
Of course, xscheme.el under emacs-19-for-nextstep is also a solution
and then one I use for that matter, but then I'm an emacs junkie.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: Reminder/PIM SW for NextStep?
Message-ID: <1994Jan13.231242.12244@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399
References: <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 23:12:42 GMT
In <1994Jan07.181256.8519@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes:
> - if there's something important coming up and I want to remember
> it, then I should be able to specify the date/time of this event,
> and also specify that I want to be notified (via email or some
> flashing icon on the dock or SOMETHING) as of N hours/days before
> the event has occurred
There's a free Unix program called remind that does all this sort
of stuff. Of course, there's no GUI.
> - appointment scheduler/calendar capabilities like in the old Date.app
I've been fairly happy with PencilMeIn. It's moderately polished
but costs about two to three times what it should (in my opinion),
has inadequate documentation, and lacks a good, seven-days calendar
format for people like me whose lives aren't compartmentalized into
weekend and weekday portions. There are a variety of minor bugs,
like no ability to display type larger than printed size on the
screen, which makes one use big type for screen readability and
then it won't all fit on the printed sheet. Customer support is
completely non-existent; I've sent them mail about problems a few
times and never received so much as an acknowledgement. They seem
to have some fairly good designers and programmers, but a totally
useless business and support side. (In fact, I recall that when
they had a special offer for user-groups, they ignored mail from
our group until Conrad Geiger intervened on our behalf.)
There may be other, better applications of this sort out now, but I
played with everything that was available at the last NextWorld
Expo and thought PMI was head and shoulders above the others at
that time.
Regards,
- Irving
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Software on Intel NS
Date: 13 Jan 1994 01:15:55 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2h23rr$18p@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <bchin.758352010@news.andi.org> <CJItwt.9oL@dvorak.amd.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes:
>And to add insult to injury, Frame Technologies is doing a PowerPC port. "Sorry
>NeXTheads, we can't do a Frame4.0 there is enough of an installed base" - not
>like the PowerPC of course!
As I heard, Frame Techn. is running very low on money. If they continue
like this, maybe their strategic mistake concerning NeXTSTEP was their last one.
--
Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und
zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
-----
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: wraith@engin.umich.edu (Ryan Arnold Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Canon BJ600 driver
Date: 14 Jan 1994 05:50:30 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h5br6INNlti@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Does anyone know of a driver for the Canon BJ600 printer for the NeXT?
--Ryan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shergot5@mach1.wlu.ca (scott hergott)
Subject: HELP!, ppd files & NSI 3.2
Message-ID: <CJLr2A.Hsp@mach1.wlu.ca>
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 04:27:45 GMT
I am desperately trying to hookup a printer to my Computer, and encountered
a problem. NeXTSTEP Intel 3.2 does not include the ppd files for the
Deskjet Printers. The Print Manager says they are there, and does not complain, however, when I try to print I get the following message on the paper
% lib/ehandler.ps -- Downloaded Error Break-page handler
% GOVERNMENT END USER
After searching, I discovered the missing ppd files. As well, I would like
to be able to print from my dot matrix printer, ( NeXT Tech Support says
this can be achieved through the print drivers from 3.1)
Therefore, if someone could please email me the ppd files for the HP
Deskjet printers (500, 500C, and 550C), as well as a ppd for an Epson FX80 I
would be VERY greatful.
Thanks,
Scott Hergott
Email : Shergot5@mach1.wlu.ca
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From: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing ASCII Files with pagenumber,date,file name,... ?
Date: 14 Jan 1994 08:55:07 GMT
Organization: University of Constance
Message-ID: <2h5mlb$em8@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
Hello
Does anyone have an idea, how I can print an ASCII File with
e.g. file name and file date or printing date on the top of
each page and the page number on the button ?
Thanks a lot
Erland
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Improv file formats?
Message-ID: <CJLpn4.6MB@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <1994Jan13.231236.28149@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 03:57:04 GMT
Donald N. Petcher writes
> Does anyone know where I can find information about Improv file formats?
You have lots of options.
Improv can save files in an ASCII format called IMX.
Improv for Windows can read imx files.
Its almost self explanatory, so in the worst case
you could decipher it yourself and convert it to another format.
There is also an API for Improv on the purdue ftp archives,
so you can interface other programs to Improv or extend Improv yourself.
For example, you could use the API to write an objective C method
that would export a model in your favorite format, and then
make it available in Improv via a menu option (its actually pretty easy)
Finally, simple ol' cut & paste works and exports tab delimited data
just like most lesser spreadsheets want.
If you call Lotus and ask, they will send you the description
for IMX format. You may have to ask around a little.
Be sure to encourage everyone you speak with to support
NEXTSTEP Improv in the future - and make sure they know about HP and Sun.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: looking for Henry McGilton's contact info
Message-ID: <1455@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 14 Jan 94 07:14:45 GMT
References: <CJG6tA.2Gx@genoa.com>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Alex Blakemore writes
> does anyone have the contact info (preferably email)
> for Henry McGilton's company that makes font conversion utilities?
Henry McGilton
Trilithon Software
Two Ohlone
Portola Valley, California 94028
Telephone: 415-325-0767
FAX: 415-325-0768
E-Mail: info@trilithon.com
--
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Woodside, California
Shameless Plug: buy my book, "Thinking in PostScript"
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for scrolling icon view
Message-ID: <1456@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 14 Jan 94 07:16:25 GMT
References: <1994Jan12.214321.15769@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Brian Baker writes
> I'm trying to locate a view which implements a scrolling list of icons
> similar to the list above the browser in the Workspace file viewer. If
> anyone knows where I can find such a thing, either as a commercial product
> or PD source code, please let me know.
The "LaunchPad" application that used to be a RightBrain product is
essentially this (a scrolling list of icons). The source code is now
in the public domain and is available on archive servers near you.
--
Glenn Reid glenn@rightbrain.com
Woodside, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dimitri@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Subject: Re: Printing ASCII Files with pagenumber,date,file name,... ?
Message-ID: <CJM849.DxF@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
Organization: Delft University of Technology
References: <2h5mlb$em8@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 10:36:09 GMT
In article <2h5mlb$em8@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>,
Erland Wittkoetter <erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de> wrote:
>Hello
>
>Does anyone have an idea, how I can print an ASCII File with
>e.g. file name and file date or printing date on the top of
>each page and the page number on the button ?
I can certainly recommend enscript -G.
Dimitri
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From: me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de(Matthias Rosenberger)
Subject: Icon.app under NS 3.2 - how to patch?
Message-ID: <1994Jan14.122010.12371@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 12:20:10 GMT
From my former NS 2.1 days, I still have Icon.app which I
liked more than IconBuilder.app for some features.
But since my NS 3.0 upgrade it did't work anymore.
Somewhere I read that there exists a possibility to
patch the binary in some way (renaming some classes or so).
Does anyone out there know how to make Icon.app run
for NS 3.2 ?
Thanks for any helpful response ;^)
Matthias
--
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email: me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Lucid Emacs on NeXT
Date: 14 Jan 1994 12:55:03 GMT
Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK.
Message-ID: <2h64n8$nbf@mercury.dur.ac.uk>
I'd like to hear from anyone who has gotten Lucid Emacs working
on their NeXT. I just got 19.9 this morning and have spent now
5 hours nonstop trying to get it to work; as far as I get is it
opens a window, I click, and it dies with a IOT trap with memory
reallocation errors.
Help?
Scott
From: meo@pencom.com (Miles O'Neal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic and co-Xist ?
Date: 14 Jan 1994 16:42:20 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h6i1c$hni@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <2gq73k$epk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: Mosaic. co-Xist
In article <2gq73k$epk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
| was anyone successful in running NCSA Mosaic under co-Xist?
What problems are you having? What hardware?
Which versions of NEXTSTEP, co-Xist, and Mosaic?
Anyone with co-Xist problems or questions may
send email to co-Xist_support (co-Xist_info
for pricing, availability, etc). We'll be happy
to help.
I run Mosaic all the time. It took minimal work
to build it under 3.x . There was no support
for 16-bit visuals prior to the most recent release
of Mosaic, so the images didn't work on color NeXT
boxes, but with the most recent release this is no
longer a problem.
I can send a binary of the latest Mosaic built under
3.2 for anyone who needs it.
-Miles
--
Miles O'Neal
Senior Software Engineer
Lead Engineer, co-Xist
meo@pencom.com
From: jcd@aladdin.aero.org (John C Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Trouble with .Z and .tar files
Date: 14 Jan 1994 18:45:31 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Message-ID: <2h6p8b$15p@news.aero.org>
I just downloaded am1.00.0.tar.Z from the archives and when I went to
uncompress from the NS 3.2 inspector panel the console returns this
message
"uncompress: corrupt input
memory allocation error: attempt to free or realloc space not in heap"
but it gave me a am1.00.0.tar file. When I tried to untar this file the
console returned this message "/usr/bin/gnutar: Skipping to next file
header..."
This same thing happened with AcChen32.tar "/usr/bin/gnutar: Skipping to
next file header..."
What am I doing wrong and how can I correctly get these programs extracted
from their archived form or maybe some kind soul could NeXTMail me these
files.
Also I am not sure what to do with .gz files. I downloaded
TransSys-PNI-1.6-beta.tar.gz and did a gzip -d
TransSys-PNI-1.6-beta.tar.gz TransSys-PNI-1.6-beta.tar" and the error came
back "gzip: TransSys-PNI-1.6-beta.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--format
violated". What do I do to extract .gz files?
Thanks for any advice or NeXTMailing me the files in question
John C Davis
jcd@aladdin.aero.org ( NeXTMail OK)
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Information about MicroPhone
Date: 14 Jan 1994 17:32:34 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401142330.AA28594@relay2.geis.com>
Stephan,
>are any applications available for down- and uploading files, messages,
>mails accessing CompuServe and for reading/writing these messages
>online/offline ?
>Or did anyone try to write MicroPhone-Modules for these problems, perhaps
>using/expanding the Loran-Module of MicroPhone ?
I have made several MicroPhone scripts to read email, bulletin board
messages and even download files. These scripts cannot "reply" to messages
but they work great!
The only thing is that they are made for the GEnie Information Service.
GEnie offers a lot of stuff for NEXTSTEP users. Big software library,
bulletin board and myself as the active sysop of the NeXT stuff.
Anyway, maybe you can take my MicroPhone scripts that I made for
GEnie and "adapt" them for CompuServe.
Eric "E.T." Tremblay
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any word of NS4 allowing use of non-Obj-C languages?
Date: 15 Jan 94 00:45:08 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.758594708@uiuc.edu>
Has there been any word of NeXT making NS (perhaps something coming in
NS4) that will allow the user to use Smalltalk instead of Obj-C to
make NS apps?
Thanks,
--
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Information about MicroPhone
Date: 15 Jan 1994 01:56:03 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2h7ifj$kia@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Keywords: compuserve
Stephan,
>are any applications available for down- and uploading files, messages,
>mails accessing CompuServe and for
reading/writing these messages
>online/offline ?
>Or did anyone try to write MicroPhone-Modules for these problems, perhaps
>using/expanding the Loran-Module of MicroPhone ?
I have made several MicroPhone scripts to read email, bulletin board
messages and even download files. These scripts cannot "reply" to messages
but they work great!
The only thing is that they are made for the GEnie Information Service.
GEnie offers a lot of stuff for NEXTSTEP users. Big software library,
bulletin board and myself as the active sysop of the NeXT stuff.
Anyway, maybe you can take my MicroPhone scripts that I made for
GEnie and "adapt" them for CompuServe.
Eric "E.T." Tremblay
If either of you find out how to GUI CompuServe from NEXTSTEP, I would appreciate receiving a message about it.
Send message to: Charles.Dudley@umich.edu no NEXTSTEP mail, please.
--
___________________________________________________
Copyright 1993 Charles M. Dudley
P. O. Box 130231
Ann Arbor, MI 48113
(800) 942 - 9304 VoiceMailbox 21240t of stuff for NEXTSTEP users. Big software library,
bulletin board and myself as the active sysop of the NeXT stuff.
Anyway, maybe you can take my MicroPhone scripts Phone scripts that I made for
> GEnie and "adapt" them for CompuServe.
>
> Eric "E.T." Tremblay
>
If eiipts that I made for
> GEnie and "adapt" them for CompuServe.
>
> Eric "E.T." Tremblay
> .
>
> Eric "E.T.
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From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's the best X11 software for NSFIP?
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 94 01:32:24 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
Message-ID: <940115.05544.ECESYS@delphi.com>
References: <1994Jan10.181512.7709@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
We've had the best performance form 040 and Intel machines form
Cub'x.[ admittedly subjective :-)]
Marty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Printing ASCII Files with pagenumber,date,file name,... ?
Message-ID: <CJnM9s.7sK@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <2h5mlb$em8@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 1994 04:39:28 GMT
Erland Wittkoetter writes
> Does anyone have an idea, how I can print an ASCII File with
> e.g. file name and file date or printing date on the top of
> each page and the page number on the button ?
man enscript
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ND software upgrade
Date: 15 Jan 1994 15:13:10 GMT
Organization: RSMAS
Message-ID: <2h9166$7p2@umigw.miami.edu>
I plan on upgrading my mono cube (non-turbo) running 3.0 to a 2-headed
NeXTdimension system running 3.2. From the old ND literature ("Getting
Started with NeXTdimension"), it appears as though the upgrade requires
installing ND updates and ND update extensions. With my ND purchase, I
received a floppy of ND updates applicable to systems running 2.0 and 2.1.
Are the ND updates (and extensions) for 3.2 on the NeXTstep (and NS
developer) CDs, or do I need to contact NeXT about purchasing additional
software?
I presume ND support is not frozen at the 2.1 level.
Thanks for any info. doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
From: johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu (John B. Friedman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dead? 3.0 mail app
Date: 15 Jan 1994 20:39:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2h9k9s$38g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Netters, could I get some advice? I had a freeze the other day when my
modem clicked off in midst of transmitting mail and cursor kept whirling.
3.0 Mail was not active then though had been working fine just 10 minutes
before. I used Halt, rebooted, got a message there had been a disk
segment error now fixed. Clicked on Mail app in dock. It would highlight
for a second or two and then quit and take me back to Workspace menu. I
tried to pull app out of dock and replace with Mail app from Next apps.
Same thing. I logged in as root and replaced the app. I got the mail to
open there but there was no mail in it, just "welcome new user" message.
The modem is definitely passing mail and seems OK. It is just that the
mail menu won't come up and the window open when mail icon clicked . Any
thoughts on where to begin, what kind of error message to look for if any
would be most appreciated. Thanks very much. John Friedman
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AFS and Sarrus email addresses?
Date: 15 Jan 1994 21:13:54 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2h9mai$47a@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
I need to contact AFS and sarrus. Does anyone have
1-800 numbers and email addresses?
Thanks
R. de Lucca
gaia@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www
From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Subject: Re: sndplay & Mosaic on NeXT
In-Reply-To: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu's message of 9 Jan 1994 22:33:27 GMT
Message-ID: <BHILL.94Jan14172840@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
Sender: usenet@physics.ucla.edu
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
References: <2gp4ic$767@ratatosk.uninett.no> <2gq0nn$chs@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Date: 15 Jan 1994 01:28:40 GMT
> >I'm trying to use sndplay to run audio (.au) files retrieved by Mosaic
> >(also mpleg_play) for mpeg files. None work. Both play the formats fine
> >if the files originate on the Next but picking them off the net with
> >Mosaic doesn't. Sndplay gives me a "3326 Memory fault" error message,
> >mpeg_play says nothing. These are the relevant lines in my .mailcap
> >file:
>
> Here's the hack I use. I create an executable file in /usr/local/bin called
> showaudio that contains the lines:
> mv $1 $1.snd
> open $1.snd
> I do the same sort of thing for Postscript, MPEG and GIF files. This
> works just fine...but you've got to have an X emulator that doesn't
> take over the whole screen. (I use coXist.)
I don't think the last claim is true. I use Xfe.app, my mailcap contains
audio/*; sndplay %s
and sound works just fine. --Brian Hill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: dos2unix replacement?
Message-ID: <westesCJpL2x.EDn@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 06:08:57 GMT
After unpacking a large archive of DOS files today under Intel NS 3.2,
I was surprised to see that there was no DOS2UNIX program bundled
in. Is there some other program that serves this need from the
command line?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: X11R5 &MouseX for Intel??
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (News maintainer)
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 03:34:47 GMT
Message-ID: <CJpDy0.Dzt@percy.rain.com>
Is there a compilled version of X11R5 and MouseX for NS_FIP?? if so where
can I find it..
--
Steve Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
NeXTmail OK..
From: neef@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Michael Neef)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: X.25 software needed
Date: 16 Jan 1994 14:56:49 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <2hbkjh$gii@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Hi,
which X.25 software products are avaivable to connect a NeXT (black hardware,
NextStep 3.2) to X.25 ?
--
Thanks! -Micha Neef-
neef@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dos2unix replacement?
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 11:06:03 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <AhCKLfy00iUz81bdUp@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <westesCJpL2x.EDn@netcom.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Jan-94 dos2unix
replacement? by Will Estes@netcom.com
> After unpacking a large archive of DOS files today under Intel NS 3.2,
> I was surprised to see that there was no DOS2UNIX program bundled
> in. Is there some other program that serves this need from the
> command line?
Yes.
"tr '\015' '\012' < file.dos > file.unix"
will do the job. You might want to alias it like:
alias dos2unix "tr '\015' '\012' < !:1 > !:1.unix"
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Re: Dead? 3.0 mail app
Message-ID: <CJqFBu.6pH@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
References: <2h9k9s$38g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 17:02:17 GMT
In article <2h9k9s$38g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu (John B.
Friedman) writes:
> Netters, could I get some advice? I had a freeze the other day when my
> modem clicked off in midst of transmitting mail and cursor kept whirling.
> 3.0 Mail was not active then though had been working fine just 10 minutes
> before. I used Halt, rebooted, got a message there had been a disk
> segment error now fixed. Clicked on Mail app in dock. It would highlight
> for a second or two and then quit and take me back to Workspace menu. I
> tried to pull app out of dock and replace with Mail app from Next apps.
> Same thing. I logged in as root and replaced the app. I got the mail to
> open there but there was no mail in it, just "welcome new user" message.
> The modem is definitely passing mail and seems OK. It is just that the
> mail menu won't come up and the window open when mail icon clicked . Any
> thoughts on where to begin, what kind of error message to look for if any
> would be most appreciated. Thanks very much. John Friedman
When you crashed, Mail must have been open. When it is open, it puts a file
called ".lock" in Active.mbox. When Mail isn't closed smoothly, the file
lock remains. Then when you go to restart mail it looks and sees that it
is already open - or at least that's the way it looks. Just delete ".lock"
and Mail.app should work fine.
Cheers - Jon
From: sbs@bu.edu (Stephen B.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backspace modules
Message-ID: <2hcc8n$2p4@news.bu.edu>
Date: 16 Jan 94 21:40:39 GMT
References: <cp%@byu.edu>
Organization: Boston University
Paul Marshall Cardon II (pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu) wrote:
: Has anybody been able to build the BackSpaceViews in
: /NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit under 3.2 on NeXT hardware? Most of us
: are probably using the ones we built with 3.1, but the makefiles seem to
: be fouled up on the 3.2 distribution. I just want to know if it's my copy
: of the media or if other people have seen this.
: Paul M. Cardon
: NeXTSTEP and HP System Manager
: Math Dept. - Brigham Young University
: -----------------------------------------------
: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (NeXTMail) or @laplace.math.byu.edu
A separator dot was left out of a mv command in each
NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/BackSpaceViews/*/MakeFile.postamble
file. You can add fix each one, to read
${MV} ${INSTALL_BUNDLE}.${BUNDLE_EXTENSION} ${INSTALL_BUNDLE}${NEW_BUNDLE_EXTENSION}
Then you can run make install from BackSpaceViews. I didn't bother
finding exactly where the mismatch arose, there's probably a more
elegant solution.
If you're lazy, you can INSTEAD do just one kluge, temporarily adding
a . to just an -include'd file,
/NextDeveloper/Makefiles/app/bundle.make
First, save a backup copy of bundle.make ; then
search for install::
search for "BUNDLE_EXTENSION =
add a . to get
"BUNDLE_EXTENSION = .$$bundle_ext" \
Then you can go back to BackSpaceViews and run make install .
When you're finished, replace the kluged file with the correct
backup!
Inelegeantly yours,
Stephen Selipsky
Yale Univ. Dept. of Physics
selipsky@yalph2.physics.yale.edu
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X11R5 &MouseX for Intel??
Date: 16 Jan 1994 21:39:53 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <2hcc7a$de2@hub.ucsb.edu>
References: <CJpDy0.Dzt@percy.rain.com>
In article <CJpDy0.Dzt@percy.rain.com> steve@eps.RAIN.COM writes:
]Is there a compilled version of X11R5 and MouseX for NS_FIP?? if so where
]can I find it..
]
(Nothing personal against you, Steve, but...)
Once and for all, for all to read:
There is NO Mouse-X for the Intel machine. The 68040 code is not compatible,
and will have to be completely rewritten for the Intel machines. I am not
doing this, so it will have to wait until some other X person decides to do
it.
For now you will have to buy one of the commercial X products.
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: WABI anyone?
Date: 16 Jan 1994 23:29:39 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2hcil3$ak7@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
References: <CJ7uyx.21G@avalon.chinalake.navy.mil> <CJ9qx7.7n@luva.stgt.sub.org> <1994Jan14.005050.26063@samantha.chi.il.us>
Well now that WABI has been out for a little while, may I pose the
question:
Based on the performance, compatibility, etc. of Windows emulation
(or translation or whathaveyou) alone, which combo does a better job (and
which combo seems to have a brighter future): Solaris x86 + Wabi, Unixware +
Merge, or NextStep/Intel + SoftPC ?
That is, if I want to setup a UNIX system on a x86 PC and use Windows
apps, which system does the best job, now, and in the future ?
I like the fact that Wabi and Merge can both be setup as Windows
servers for remote X terminals. Also I understand that Novell may be going
over to Wabi, is this true ?
Thanks.
Cheers,
Dan Ts'o 713-798-3331
Div. Neuroscience FAX: 713-798-3897
Baylor College of Medicine
1 Baylor Plaza S603 dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
Houston, TX 77030 tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
From: mallen@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosiac for use with MouseX?
Date: 17 Jan 1994 00:42:51 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hcmub$far@news.acns.nwu.edu>
After getting Mouse X up and running on my system, I am looking for Mosiac
binaries to run with X. Any help on where I can find such a thing?
(General X FTP sites would be helpful too.)
--
mallen@nwu.edu (NeXTMail welcome)
"Who guards the guardsmen?"
finger mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu for PGP public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Any word of NS4 allowing use of non-Obj-C languages?
Message-ID: <CJr1Cx.Gtv@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <jeffo.758594708@uiuc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 00:58:08 GMT
In article <jeffo.758594708@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
writes:
>>Has there been any word of NeXT making NS (perhaps something coming in
>>NS4) that will allow the user to use Smalltalk instead of Obj-C to
>>make NS apps?
>>
>>Thanks,
Hmmm...
Makes me ask the question...and it may sound retorical but I mean it,
sincerely...what makes a NEXTSTEP app a NEXTSTEP app ?
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any word of NS4 allowing use of non-Obj-C languages?
Date: 17 Jan 1994 03:00:38 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hcv0n$qph@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <CJr1Cx.Gtv@dvorak.amd.com>
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes:
> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> >> Has there been any word of NeXT making NS (perhaps something
> >> coming in NS4) that will allow the user to use Smalltalk
> >> instead of Obj-C to make NS apps?
>
> Hmmm...
>
> Makes me ask the question...and it may sound rhetorical but I mean
> it, sincerely...what makes a NEXTSTEP app a NEXTSTEP app ?
Integrated support from InterfaceBuilder and ProjectBuilder. If I
write classes in modula-3, interface builder can't parse them.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mallen@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosiac for use with MouseX?
Date: 17 Jan 1994 03:27:58 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hd0ju$ia0@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <2hcmub$far@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Is there anyone out there who would be willing to NeXTMail me a copy of xv
for Mosaic??
Thanks...
--
mallen@nwu.edu (NeXTMail welcome)
"Who guards the guardsmen?"
finger mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu for PGP public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: PasteUp 2.1 Text and Leading
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (News maintainer)
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 03:09:43 GMT
Message-ID: <CJr7G8.9ou@percy.rain.com>
I have been using 2.1 PasteUp and have been having problems with changeing
leading between 2 line of type.. Are there still alot of bugs in 2.1 and
the text object.. Seems very flakey..
--
Steve Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
NeXTmail OK..
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 17 Jan 1994 02:04:20 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2hdd9k$kid@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
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anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
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ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
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(ignoring capitalization)
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three files:
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sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
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please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
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To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
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this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Thanks to whoever wrote CD150 player
Message-ID: <CJryGL.BFK@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 12:53:09 GMT
I've been using it for a few days now and have been VERY happy.
Thanks for your efforts and for posting the fruits thereof.
Cheers - Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Re: dos2unix replacement?
Message-ID: <CJryIw.BJ6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
References: <AhCKLfy00iUz81bdUp@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 12:54:31 GMT
In article <AhCKLfy00iUz81bdUp@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Jan-94 dos2unix
> replacement? by Will Estes@netcom.com
> > After unpacking a large archive of DOS files today under Intel NS 3.2,
> > I was surprised to see that there was no DOS2UNIX program bundled
> > in. Is there some other program that serves this need from the
> > command line?
>
> Yes.
>
> "tr '\015' '\012' < file.dos > file.unix"
>
> will do the job. You might want to alias it like:
>
> alias dos2unix "tr '\015' '\012' < !:1 > !:1.unix"
>
> -Chuck
There is also a utility out there called "flip" which, err, goes
both ways.
Cheers - Jon
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thanks to whoever wrote CD150 player
Date: 17 Jan 1994 14:22:19 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2he6ur$846@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <CJryGL.BFK@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
I think it's great also - i.e. CD150player.
PLEASE compile/write an INTEL version!! I have
the CD150 with an Intel setup.
R. de Lucca
The Johns Hopkins University
From: eseymour@next.com (Eric Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where does Mail.app keep its personal address directory?
Date: 11 Jan 1994 19:03:35 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2gut67$8dh@rosie.next.com>
References: <Robert.Claeson.44.0012978E@sweden.dg.com>
In article <Robert.Claeson.44.0012978E@sweden.dg.com>
Robert.Claeson@sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson) writes:
> I don't have a NEXTSTEP system to use at the moment, but would need to
access
> one of my personally created mail aliases with several recipients. Can
anybody
> please tell me how I in any way can access it? I have the whole of my
home
> directory accessible as well as a netinfo server. It's just the last
piece of
> the cake that's missing -- a NEXTSTEP system with all the apps.
>
> Thank's,
>
> Robert
In the file ~/.NeXT/.mailalias
--
Eric Seymour
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Colours and Apps
Message-ID: <1994Jan17.171820.11427@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 17:18:20 GMT
In article <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de>
borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes:
>Hi,
>
>since using my "new" used NeXT Colour-Station I've got a problem using
>colours.
>
>Using Pantone-Colours, the NeXT colour panel represents the real colour in
>a correct way. For example, the NeXT colour panel displays Pantone 355 (a
>very dark and blue green) correctly as very dark and "blue". But if I like
>to fill an object on the "working screen" of any App (like Virtuoso), this
>Pantone 355 changes to another green - the working-screen shows something
>like Pantone 333 (a very light green without any blue).
>Printing the whole job (on a NeXT colour printer) will print-out the
>correct colour(s) - so I think it's just a problem of the way, how the
>colours are shown within an App.
>
>Does anybody know: Is there any way to callibrate just the working space
>oft the App (favourite: Virtuoso) without changing the callibration of the
>NeXT colour panel?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>- Borris -
>
>P.S.: Please excuse my bad English - it isn't my native language.
>P.P.S.: For readers of de.comp.sys.next: You might answer in German
>language using p-mail
>- B -
>--
>
>borris@boba.rhein-main.de ist: Borris Balzer - Kennedyallee 34
>D-60596 Frankfurt am Main - Tel +49-69-639266 - Fax +49-69-6312324
The problem is there because the NEXTSTEP Pantone colors have an RGB
screen representation that is tied to a CMYK representation. The
workaround is to use the CMYK data to define the color in Virtuoso for
a given Pantone color. This will only work in NS 3.1+, because there
was a bug in NS 3 that converted the RGB directly to CMYK. Try this:
Pick a Pantone color (a green or blue for best results)
Go to the CMYK Color picker and look at the values there.
Go to the RGB picker and edit a number in one of the three fields
(make the same number, what you are doing is changing it from a
Pantone to an RGB (the color won't change)
THEN go to the CMYK picker and note the changes...
To make Pantone work in NS 3.1+ and Virtuoso 1, change one of the CMYK
numbers to itself (changing the definition from Pantone to CMYK) and
your OUTPUT will look right (but not the screen)
Needless to say, this is all fixed in Virtuoso 2!
Questions? Call me...
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sybase server for NeXT
Date: 17 Jan 1994 13:35:12 -0500
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2help0$bs0@condor.cs.jhu.edu>
I'm trying to get information on the Sybase server for a NeXTstation computer.
I called Sybase and found they're information unhelpful.
My machine came with a package called the Sybase DB-client library ( or
something like that, I'm not near the machine right now ) can this be used
with a current version Sybase server? What about a cheap server, I remember
something about a $500 server with a bug that was talked about over a year
ago. What I really want is something for development in an environment that
already has Oracle, so I'm not sure I want to shell out for the Server, the
client and the libraries. At least not until we are sure we want it.
Chris
From: enyaw@quark.uucp (Wayne Simila-Dickinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Microphone Pro, NS 3.2, Black HW, and ZMODEM
Message-ID: <znr758759214k@quark.uucp>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 94 22:26:54 GMT
Organization: Wayne's World (hiz home)
I have an 040 cube running NS 3.2 and Microphone II 1.0. File transfer
via ZMODEM no longer works. Is there a solution, patch, new version?
If not does someone have an e-mail address for Software Ventures?
--
more later.
-Wayne
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From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Better Driver or Color-Munger for Next Color Printer
Message-ID: <1994Jan17.185336.22075@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 18:53:36 GMT
I think I saw something at the last NextWorld Expo that purported
to greatly improve the quality of photographs sent to the Next
Color Printer. I don't remember the name of the product or that of
the developer, nor have I ever heard of it again.
I was hoping Next would in 3.2 fix the problems, and I'd be spared
buying a fix, but unfortunately that hasn't happened.
Can anyone please:
(1) refer me to the source of this product;
(2) comment on the quality and effectiveness of the product;
(3) alert me to any other options available; or
(4) comment on alternative approaches, like a package of specific
transformations to apply to a photo that looks good on the screen,
that will make it print well?
Thanks!
- Irving
--
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Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399
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From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GatorFTP: Does "get" work?
Date: 17 Jan 1994 15:57:24 -0700
Organization: Keflavik
Message-ID: <2hf54k$3ie@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
I saw a bit of discussion a few weeks ago about troubles that people were
having with GatorFTP. Specifically, as soon as you tried to "get" a file,
it would die. I never saw any follow-ups posted about a solution. Was one
found?
I'm running GatorFTP v1.4 under 3.2/Intel.
Thanks in advance...
--
grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson)
"Clothes make the man. Naked people have little
or no influence on society." - Mark Twain
From: rlion@access3.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where does Mail.app keep its personal address directory?
Date: 17 Jan 1994 23:04:59 GMT
Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <2hf5ir$s7m@news1.digex.net>
References: <Robert.Claeson.44.0012978E@sweden.dg.com> <2gut67$8dh@rosie.next.com>
Eric Seymour (eseymour@next.com) wrote:
: In the file ~/.NeXT/.mailalias
whats the format of this file? i want to edit it myself instead of having
the GUI do it...could someone just mail me an example or something?
--
Eli Rosenblatt (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail))
/\ Rebellion Systems
\/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, repair, and Sales
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Graphic Packages w/Student Pricing for NS/I
Message-ID: <1994Jan17.185647.11722@altsys.com>
Keywords: Graphics, Academic
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <nemiroal.11.000905D9@bus.orst.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 18:56:47 GMT
In article <nemiroal.11.000905D9@bus.orst.edu> nemiroal@bus.orst.edu writes:
>Hello,
>
>I was wondering what packages are out there for NS/I that are good and have
>discounts for Students. I am looking for something that will perform or
>outperform Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator, Autodesk 3Ds, Autocad. In addition,
>I am looking to do Multimedia.. does anything exist?
>btw, I reason I say like "Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator....etc...etc." is
>because I have been told that these apps are not availible for NS/I.
>
>These are the ones that I know exist for NS/I and their prices.
>Intuitiv 3'd -- $150
>ZZVolume -- $1000
>WetPaint -- $99
>TiffanyII -- $245
>
Virtuoso's edu price is $299
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Jim Lipton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: scheme, lisp,ML,prolog for NS/Intel
Message-ID: <2hf7ui$id0@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 17 Jan 94 23:45:22 GMT
References: <1994Jan11.171007.587@news.wesleyan.edu> <CEDMAN.94Jan13083447@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
In article <CEDMAN.94Jan13083447@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>Well, I haven't tried compiling Schematik under NS3.2, but I just
>started my old binary and it came up just fine with this message:
>
>;Scheme Microcode Version 11.59
>;MIT Scheme running under NeXT
>;
>;Scheme saved on Thursday September 3, 1992 at 9:40:56 AM
>; Release 7.1.3
>; Microcode 11.59
>; Runtime 14.104
>; Schematik 1.1
>
>Why don't you try and get the binary for Schematik instead if you have
>compilation problems ?
>
I welcome the suggestion. I wanted to add that I recently downloaded and
compiled scm (scm4d3) from altdorf.ai.mit.edu:archive/scm/
It runs fine with NS3.2/486, and interacts very well with comint.el and
cmuscheme.el under emacs-19-for-next.
Jim Lipton
From: lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Jim Lipton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for scrolling icon view
Date: 18 Jan 1994 00:19:16 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University
Message-ID: <2hf9u4$kk7@netnews.upenn.edu>
References: <1994Jan12.214321.15769@il.us.swissbank.com> <1456@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
In article <1456@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com writes:
>Brian Baker writes
>
>> I'm trying to locate a view which implements a scrolling list of icons
>> similar to the list above the browser in the Workspace file viewer. If
>> anyone knows where I can find such a thing, either as a commercial product
>> or PD source code, please let me know.
>
>The "LaunchPad" application that used to be a RightBrain product is
>essentially this (a scrolling list of icons). The source code is now
>in the public domain and is available on archive servers near you.
Yes, it works very well, but you have to edit the Timebomb.m file to change the
date of expiration, or it will fail tolaunch itself :-)
Jim Lipton
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP: Does "get" work?
Date: 18 Jan 1994 00:47:40 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2hfbjc$djb@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <2hf54k$3ie@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
In article <2hf54k$3ie@keflavik.wordperfect.com>,
Grettir Asmundarson <grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com> wrote:
>I saw a bit of discussion a few weeks ago about troubles that people were
>having with GatorFTP. Specifically, as soon as you tried to "get" a file,
>it would die. I never saw any follow-ups posted about a solution. Was one
>found?
>
>I'm running GatorFTP v1.4 under 3.2/Intel.
>
>Thanks in advance...
>
>--
V1.4a appeared on cs.orst.edu about a week ago. This works fine.
Thanks to the authors!
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
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From: clarence@orion.cc.andrews.edu (Clarence L. Thomas IV)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon
Date: 17 Jan 1994 19:43:50 -0500
Organization: Andrews University, Berrien Springs, MI, 49104
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hfbc6$9n7@orion.cc.andrews.edu>
The earthquake in Los Angeles, California, the flood in Europe, the seemingly
unstoppable war in the former Yugoslavia, the devastating fires in Australia,
the flood in the Midwest of the United States of America, the devastating fires
near Los Angeles, California, the rapid and appalling increase in violence in
cities, towns, villages all over the world, the famines, the diseases, the rapid
decline of the family unit, and the destructive earthquake in India (in 1993)
are signs that this world's history is coming to a climax. The human race
has trampled on God's Constitution, as given in Exodus 20:1-17 (King James
Version Bible), and Jesus is coming to set things right. These rapidly
accelerating signs are an indication that Jesus is coming soon (Matthew 24).
God's Holy Spirit is gradually withdrawing its protection from the earth
and the devastating events you see are demonstrations of Satan's power. All
those who are not guarded by God are in danger of forever losing eternal life.
If you want to know what's about to happen, please study the books of Daniel
and Revelation which are located in God's Word, the Bible. They are not
sealed or closed books. They can and must be understood by all. Every word
in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation is true. The Bible and the Bible only
must be your guide.
When God's Law (the Constitution for the Universe) is consistently ignored,
disregarded, changed, and questioned, He permits certain events to occur to
wake us up. I would urge all, wherever you are and regardless of the
circumstances, to directly call on Jesus and ask Him to intervene in your life.
Jesus who created this planet and every living creature in it and on it, died
on the cross, was raised from the dead by God the Father, and is now in Heaven
interceding for you. Jesus is the only One who can rescue us from the slavery,
misery, and death Satan is causing us.
For reference I'm including God's Constitution as given in the King James
Version Bible. Please note that when God says the seventh day, he means Sabbath
(the 7th day of the week) not Sunday (1st day of the week).
Commandment #1: Exodus 20:1-3 (KJV) And God
spake all these words, saying, I am
the LORD thy God, which have brought
thee out of the land of Egypt, out
of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have
no other gods before me.
Commandment #2: Exodus 20:4-6 (KJV) Thou shalt not make
unto thee any graven image, or any
likeness of any thing that is in heaven
above, or that is in the earth beneath,
or that is in the water under the earth.
And shewing mercy unto thousands of them
that love me, and keep my commandments.
Commandment #3: Exodus 20:7 (KJV) Thou shalt not take
the name of the LORD thy God in vain;
for the LORD will not hold him
guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Commandment #4: Exodus 20:8-11 (KJV) Remember the sabbath
day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou
labour, and do all thy work: But the
seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD
thy God: in it thou shalt not do any
work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter,
thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor
thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is
within thy gates: For in six days the
LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and
all that in them is, and rested the seventh
day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath
day, and hallowed it.
Commandment #5: Exodus 20:12 (KJV) Honour thy father and thy
mother: that thy days may be long upon the
land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Commandment #6: Exodus 20:13 (KJV) Thou shalt not kill.
Commandment #7: Exodus 20:14 (KJV) Thou shalt not commit
adultery.
Commandment #8: Exodus 20:15 (KJV) Thou shalt not steal.
Commandment #9: Exodus 20:16 (KJV) Thou shalt not bear
false witness against thy neighbour.
Commandment #10: Exodus 20:17 (KJV) Thou shalt not covet
thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not
covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his
manservant, nor his maidservant, nor
his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that
is thy neighbour's.
I also recommend that the following books be obtained and closely studied:
The Great Controversy
By Ellen G. White
Review and Herald Publishing Association
Hagerstown, MD 21740
The Desire of the Ages
By Ellen G. White
Review and Herald Publishing Association
Hagerstown, MD 21740
Patriarchs and Prophets
By Ellen G. White
Review and Hearld Publishing Association
Hagerstown, MD 21740
Daniel and the Revelation
By Uriah Smith
Review and Herald Publishing Association
Hagerstown, MD 21740
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Clarence L. Thomas IV
Phone: 616-471-6116
E-mail: thomas@redwood.cc.andrews.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: PIXEL MAGICIAN AND IMAGE AGENT--$149 TO HSD OWNERS
Message-ID: <CJsBrC.4IA@beach.com>
Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 17:40:24 GMT
****LIMITED TIME OFFER****
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CURRENT SCANNER OWNERS CAN PURCHASE PIXEL MAG/IMAGE AGENT FOR $149
*****CALL 1 (800) 828-5522 TO ORDER*****
HSD today announced a promotion to include a FREE copy of the
single-user version of Bacchus Inc.'s award-winning Pixel Magician
and Image Agent software with each scanner system purchased from HSD
through February, 1994. Complete product info is at the end of this
message.
HSD also announced an exclusive offer for current owners of HSD and
Umax scanners to purchase a single-user copy of Pixel Magician/Image
Agent directly from HSD for the reduced price of $149 (retail $299)
during the promotion. This price is only available for orders placed
directly through HSD and not from Bacchus.
In addition, during the promotion HSD is reducing the retail prices
of all 24-bit color scanner systems it is currently offering. The new
prices are listed below:
Scanner Old Retail New Retail Bundled Software
Umax UC 630 $1495 $1295 Pixel Mag/Image Agent
Umax UC 840 $1695 $1495 Pixel Mag/Image Agent
Umax UC 1260 $2495 $1995 Pixel Mag/Image Agent
All scanners are shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Package
which includes three powerful scanning applications for computers
running NEXTSTEP: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation;
PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner
and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based
application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a
paper fax machine.
Each scanner system includes the following:
- 24-bit Color Scanner
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- Cable, terminator, power cord
- One-year warranty
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When ordering, please provide the following information:
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Scanner Serial Number(s) _________________________
Please provide your HSD or Umax scanner serial number if you are
ordering only Pixel Magician and Image Agent.
Version of NEXTSTEP you are using:
NEXTSTEP 3.0 or lower: ___________________________
NEXTSTEP 3.1 or higher: ___________________________
Method of Payment:
Credit Card: (Visa, MasterCard or Amex)
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Please fax or email your order to HSD at:
Email: sales@hsd.com
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Pixel Magician Product Info:
Pixel Magician, the advanced image conversion application for
NEXTSTEP.
Pixel Magician converts to and from all the popular image file
formats: TIFF, GIF, PICT, PCX, DCX, RIB, JPEG, TARGA, PS, EPS,
Windows BMP, Sun Raster, FAX, IFF/ILBM, MacPaint, XBM, XWD and MTV.
Use the automated capabilities of the convert window to view, scale,
rotate, quantize and convert an entire directory of image files with
a single mouse click.
Features: Mass image conversion, Image viewing, PostScript to Raster,
Color Quantization, Error Diffusion Dithering, paletted formats,
Precise scaling and rotating, variable aspect ratios and image
resolutions, alpha channel support, image aliases, thumbnail views
and flexible output options.
Image Agent:
With Image Agent users can simply drag and drop non-native image
files directly into NEXTSTEP applications, such as Diagram! 2,
Concurrence, Pages, TIFFany II, Wetpaint, Create, and have the images
instantly appear. Image Agent transparently performs the image
conversion as if it were part of the actual application in use.
Supported image formats include: TIFF, GIF, PS, EPS, TARGA, PICT,
MacPaint, PCX, DCX, Windows BMP, MTV, IFF/ILBM, Sun Raster, JPEG
(JFIF), XWD, XBM and others.
--
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rob@brewster.demon.co.uk (Rob Heyes)
Subject: Re: GatorFTP: Does "get" work?
References: <2hf54k$3ie@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
Organization: Kallisti Systems
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 00:50:32 +0000
Message-ID: <758879432snx@brewster.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <2hf54k$3ie@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson) writes:
> I saw a bit of discussion a few weeks ago about troubles that people were
> having with GatorFTP. Specifically, as soon as you tried to "get" a file,
> it would die. I never saw any follow-ups posted about a solution. Was one
> found?
>
> I'm running GatorFTP v1.4 under 3.2/Intel.
I've found that if you delete the ~/.gatorftprc file then 'get's will work.
I don't know if the author has released a newer version yet though.
Rob Heyes
From: glenn@iridium.digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT BBS Software
Date: 18 Jan 1994 02:36:15 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hfhuv$33s@news1.digex.net>
Keywords: bbs, next
Hi all,
I am looking for some bbs software that will allow my company to
provide access to the public, either by dialin to my ZyXEL modem
or via telnet. Is there anything out there that sounds like it may
do the trick? Please let me know. If there are programs that you have that
implement this as either a UNIX shell script or as a binary program I would
really appreciate it if you could send it to me or point me in the direction
where on the Internet I could find it.
Thanks very much in advance,
Glenn
--
Glenn D. Rempe (NeXTMAIL)
glenn@iridium.digex.net
Sales Associate
Boston Whaler, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Subject: Comm apps for NSIP
Message-ID: <CJt024.8zI@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access Service
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 02:25:15 GMT
What is available for the Intel as far as a decent comm program? Is there a
TipTop for Intel? How about wordprocessors for Intel? I'm asking for a
friend; I'm still true black - Happy MLK Day!
-chip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Re: X.25 software needed
Message-ID: <1994Jan17.134055.29691@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <2hbkjh$gii@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 13:40:55 GMT
In article <2hbkjh$gii@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
neef@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Michael Neef) writes:
> Hi,
>
> which X.25 software products are avaivable to connect a NeXT (black
hardware,
> NextStep 3.2) to X.25 ?
> --
> Thanks! -Micha Neef-
> neef@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
I have been using MorningStar's SNAPLink product to connect our network to
Tymnet's X25 gateway for the last year. The hardware and software work
fine with one minor problem I have NEVER been able to get MS to correct.
The x25 daemon attaches itself to a terminal, and of course this terminal
needs to be active/available or the daemon will hang.
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
Email: Neil@bMD.com [NeXTmail]
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong)
Subject: Re: X.25 software needed
Message-ID: <1994Jan17.131138.21972@wicket.fdn.org>
Sender: news@wicket.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Paris, France.
References: <2hbkjh$gii@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 13:11:38 GMT
There is a French society : CKS which has create X25Bernie toolkit and
X25Bernie Server for NS/486. But I m not sure it will be run on black hardware.
CKS
16 rue Gambetta
44000 Nantes
France
Tel : (33) 40 37 51 60
Fax : (33) 40 37 51 97
In article <2hbkjh$gii@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
neef@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Michael Neef) writes:
> Hi,
>
> which X.25 software products are avaivable to connect a NeXT (black hardware,
> NextStep 3.2) to X.25 ?
> --
> Thanks! -Micha Neef-
> neef@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
--
Frederic Pralong Paris France
NeXT mail ok
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP: Does "get" work?
Date: 18 Jan 1994 05:43:04 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2hfst8$jfc@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <2hf54k$3ie@keflavik.wordperfect.com> <X> <758879432snx@brewster.demon.co.uk>
In article <758879432snx@brewster.demon.co.uk>,
Rob Heyes <rob@brewster.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <2hf54k$3ie@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson) writes:
>> I saw a bit of discussion a few weeks ago about troubles that people were
>> having with GatorFTP. Specifically, as soon as you tried to "get" a file,
>> it would die. I never saw any follow-ups posted about a solution. Was one
>> found?
>>
>> I'm running GatorFTP v1.4 under 3.2/Intel.
>
>I've found that if you delete the ~/.gatorftprc file then 'get's will work.
>I don't know if the author has released a newer version yet though.
>
>Rob Heyes
You may be correct. It was Archie_209a for NS/I that was updated.
My apologies for the confusion. Too much computing, too little sleep |-)
I had in the course of messing around with the older sources for GatorFTP,
zapped the ~/.gatorfpc file.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Colours and Apps
Date: 18 Jan 1994 08:17:31 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2hg5ur$60v@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de> <1994Jan17.171820.11427@altsys.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes:
>In article <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de>
>borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes:
[...Boris has problem with Pantone colors in Virtuoso..]
>The problem is there because the NEXTSTEP Pantone colors have an RGB
>screen representation that is tied to a CMYK representation. The
>workaround is to use the CMYK data to define the color in Virtuoso for
>a given Pantone color. This will only work in NS 3.1+, because there
>was a bug in NS 3 that converted the RGB directly to CMYK. Try this:
[...workaround deleted...]
No!
The problem is that Virtuoso converts all colors to CMYK internally
without asking, from the screen representation and using the (wrong)
formula CMYK = 1 - RGB, instead of relying on the AppKit's Pantone
and calibrated color handling, which JUST WORKS (TM).
Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: ND software upgrade
Message-ID: <CJtMMI.I9F@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet
References: <2h9166$7p2@umigw.miami.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 10:32:42 GMT
In article <2h9166$7p2@umigw.miami.edu> doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu writes:
>
> Are the ND updates (and extensions) for 3.2 on the NeXTstep (and NS
> developer) CDs, or do I need to contact NeXT about purchasing additional
> software?
> I presume ND support is not frozen at the 2.1 level.
>
No ND updates are required under 3.2 it just works !
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Control: cancel <2hfbc6$9n7@orion.cc.andrews.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: clarence@orion.cc.andrews.edu
Subject: cmsg cancel <2hfbc6$9n7@orion.cc.andrews.edu>
Message-ID: <cancel$758899283@aber.ac.uk>
Sender: news@aber.ac.uk (USENET news service)
Organization: UseNet Cabal (West Wales Cadre) Active Service Unit
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 13:21:23 GMT
Autocancel of: "Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon"
From: jnicolas@whistler.mit.edu (Julien Nicolas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Digital Librarian indexing: why does DL search index then files?
Date: 18 Jan 1994 15:43:51 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JNICOLAS.94Jan18104351@whistler.mit.edu>
DL seems to work differently depending on whether it is searching the
NeXT supplied docs (NeXT Developer, NextAdmin etc) or user-created docs.
In the first case, searching for a word in the content is fast, and only
the .index.store seems to be accessed. In the case of user-indexed docs,
it seems that the .index.store gets searched (results are displayed
quickly) but DL goes on to check the directory (displaying in
rapid succession the names of the files in grey just over the search
textfield). This can take quite a long time. Why the difference?
jn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de(Matthias Rosenberger)
Subject: Re: Icon.app under NS 3.2 - how to patch?
Message-ID: <1994Jan18.171938.27587@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
References: <1994Jan14.122010.12371@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 17:19:38 GMT
In article <1994Jan14.122010.12371@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de(Matthias Rosenberger) writes:
> Does anyone out there know how to make Icon.app run
> for NS 3.2 ?
To be more precise, here are the error messages I receive when I
try to use the Marquee Tool (lowest right tool button) while the
Inspector Panel shows the Tool Inspector. After clicking on the
marquee button, Icon.app will crash.
The error messages on the console window:
Jan 18 18:15:46 next45 Icon[1193]: objc: class `NXColorSlider' not linked into
application
Jan 18 18:15:46 next45 Icon[1193]: Unknown View class NXColorSlider in
Interface Builder file,
Jan 18 18:15:46 next45 Icon[1193]: objc: class `NXColorSlider' not linked into
application
Jan 18 18:15:46 next45 Icon[1193]: Unknown View class NXColorSlider in
Interface Builder file,
Jan 18 18:15:46 next45 Icon[1193]: objc: View: does not recognize selector
-setTitle:
Does anyone know how to replace the 'NXColorSlider' class and the
'-setTitle' selector to make Icon.app run for NS 3.2 (black hardware,
off course) ?
Thanks a lot for any help,
Matthias
--
Matthias Rosenberger, Walter Schottky Institut, TU Muenchen
email: me@next45.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schweber!mono (Matthias Weber)
Subject: Re: ND software upgrade
Message-ID: <1994Jan18.132226.1099@schweber.rhein-main.de>
Sender: mono@schweber.rhein-main.de
Organization: Schweber und ...
References: <2h9166$7p2@umigw.miami.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 13:22:26 GMT
In article <2h9166$7p2@umigw.miami.edu> doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu writes:
> I plan on upgrading my mono cube (non-turbo) running 3.0 to a 2-headed
> NeXTdimension system running 3.2. From the old ND literature ("Getting
> Started with NeXTdimension"), it appears as though the upgrade requires
> installing ND updates and ND update extensions. With my ND purchase, I
> received a floppy of ND updates applicable to systems running 2.0 and
2.1.
>
> Are the ND updates (and extensions) for 3.2 on the NeXTstep (and NS
> developer) CDs, or do I need to contact NeXT about purchasing
additional
> software?
> I presume ND support is not frozen at the 2.1 level.
>
> Thanks for any info. doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
I upgraded my Cube the same way one week ago :-)
To me the way was that the Cube was running 3.2 and I just pluggeded the
ND-Board into it.
You don't have to make any updates, the Cube does them for you.
Runs great! Just modify in the Preferences which monitor comes up at boot
and how the monitors are aligned.
Enjoy
-mono-
--
Schweber und... wielandstr. 17H -- 60318 frankfurt/main
phone +49 69 5971815 - fax +49 69 5974204
matthias weber mono@schweber.rhein-main.de - use NeXT-mail
--
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phone +49 69 5971815 - fax +49 69 5974204
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Colours and Apps
Message-ID: <1994Jan18.154958.26040@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de> <1994Jan17.171820.11427@altsys.com> <2hg5ur$60v@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 15:49:58 GMT
In article <2hg5ur$60v@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) writes:
>lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes:
>
>>In article <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de>
>>borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes:
>
>[...Boris has problem with Pantone colors in Virtuoso..]
>
>>The problem is there because the NEXTSTEP Pantone colors have an RGB
>>screen representation that is tied to a CMYK representation. The
>>workaround is to use the CMYK data to define the color in Virtuoso for
>>a given Pantone color. This will only work in NS 3.1+, because there
>>was a bug in NS 3 that converted the RGB directly to CMYK. Try this:
>
>[...workaround deleted...]
>
>No!
>
>The problem is that Virtuoso converts all colors to CMYK internally
>without asking, from the screen representation and using the (wrong)
>formula CMYK = 1 - RGB, instead of relying on the AppKit's Pantone
>and calibrated color handling, which JUST WORKS (TM).
>
>Marcel
Marcel,
I'm sorry, but what you're saying isn't exactly true. We do an
internal conversion to CMYK, but don't use the CMYK = 1 - RGB to do
it. At any rate, the work around I describedf WILL WORK and give
acceptable output. No it is not device independent color, no it does
not use the AppKit. It does, however give you tha ability to do color
separations to any PostScript device. Virtuoso 2 handles the Pantone
issue better (tho not to Marcel's standards). The AppKit provides
nothing for color separations (if you wonder if that's so, look at any
NEXTSTEP only graohics and layout package and see how they handle
process and spot color...)
Don't be dismayed, Virtuoso actually does a pretty good job and
generates better seps than Quark XPress...
Yours,
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Mac to NeXT connectivity
Message-ID: <1994Jan18.165553.28228@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 16:55:53 GMT
I just got a PowerBook for when I'm on the road. Can anyone suggest
ways to use my Mac to connect to my e-mail account and read news while
on the road?
I'm basically telecomm impaired (through ignorance only)
Thanks!
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Comm apps for NSIP
Date: 18 Jan 1994 19:04:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2hhbs0$mnf@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <CJt024.8zI@kaiwan.com>
Chip Sieglinger (chipsig@kaiwan.com) wrote:
: What is available for the Intel as far as a decent comm program? Is there a
: TipTop for Intel? How about wordprocessors for Intel? I'm asking for a
: friend; I'm still true black - Happy MLK Day!
: -chip
I got the Kermit program but, I cannot enable the /cu* device on my Intel
NS 3.2. Do you know what I can do to make my modem work? By the way, it
is connected to COMM2.
Could someone help me?
Thanks!
chi@watserv.ucr.edu
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ND software upgrade
Date: 18 Jan 1994 19:45:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hhe93$2l5@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Jan18.132226.1099@schweber.rhein-main.de>
In article <1994Jan18.132226.1099@schweber.rhein-main.de> schweber!mono (Matthias Weber) writes:
>In article <2h9166$7p2@umigw.miami.edu> doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu writes:
>> I plan on upgrading my mono cube (non-turbo) running 3.0 to a 2-headed
>> NeXTdimension system running 3.2. From the old ND literature ("Getting
>> Started with NeXTdimension"), it appears as though the upgrade requires
>> installing ND updates and ND update extensions.
>
>I upgraded my Cube the same way one week ago :-)
>To me the way was that the Cube was running 3.2 and I just pluggeded the
>ND-Board into it.
True, and installing 3.2 from scratch onto ND system also just works.
I wiped the HD clean and rebuilt the 3.2 system on a ND cube
by booting off the CDROM. It works just like any other black system.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Jim Lipton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Comm apps for NSIP
Date: 18 Jan 1994 20:20:26 GMT
Organization: Organization: Wesleyan U.
Message-ID: <2hhgaa$851@netnews.upenn.edu>
References: <CJt024.8zI@kaiwan.com>
In article <CJt024.8zI@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) writes:
>What is available for the Intel as far as a decent comm program? Is there a
>TipTop for Intel? How about wordprocessors for Intel? I'm asking for a
>friend; I'm still true black - Happy MLK Day!
>
>-chip
>
Pedja Bogdanovich's TipTop 0.93 is excellent.
It's a simple but beautifully designed sz/rz/-interface,
and it works the first time on Intel w/ NS 3.2. Costs 25 bucks
to unlock (otherwise only works for 15 min) and
it's worth every penny.
--
Jim Lipton
=====================================================================
Dept. of Mathematics (home:)
Wesleyan University 12 Knowles Ave. Ext.
Middletown CT 06459-0128 Middletown, CT 06457
(203) 347-9411 (203) 344-0552
================================================================
e-mail: jlipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu
=====================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Where does Mail.app keep its personal address directory?
Message-ID: <1994Jan18.203421.4744@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2hf5ir$s7m@news1.digex.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 20:34:21 GMT
In article <2hf5ir$s7m@news1.digex.net> rlion@access3.digex.net (Eli
Rosenblatt) writes:
> Eric Seymour (eseymour@next.com) wrote:
>
> : In the file ~/.NeXT/.mailalias
>
> whats the format of this file? i want to edit it myself instead of
having
> the GUI do it...could someone just mail me an example or something?
It is a (more or less) standard Unix/sendmail alias file. Lots of lines
with an alias set per line, starting with the name of the alias, a colon,
then a comma separated list of members.
e.g. each of these will show as a Private Group:
info: paul, liz
uk-next-usergroups: Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk>,
Jackie Mackay <mackay@cognito.demon.co.uk>,
Malcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
and an extra line which forms the Private Users section, which is an alias
"Private Users", with each entry a member of that alias.
The other sections of the Mail Addresses panel come from elsewhere (Users,
Groups and Login Names).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: mra@bink.mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gif
Date: 18 Jan 1994 21:37:10 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2hhkq6$b3s@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Sorry if this if a FAQ, but could someone email me the name of a program
to convert GIF to tiff or eps? Thanks --- mra@mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Colours and Apps
Message-ID: <1994Jan18.213456.23748@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de> <1994Jan17.171820.11427@altsys.com> <2hg5ur$60v@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 21:34:56 GMT
In article <2hg5ur$60v@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) writes:
>>lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de>
>>>borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer) writes:
>>
>>[...Boris has problem with Pantone colors in Virtuoso..]
>>
>>>The problem is there because the NEXTSTEP Pantone colors have an RGB
>>>screen representation that is tied to a CMYK representation. The
>>>workaround is to use the CMYK data to define the color in Virtuoso for
>>>a given Pantone color. This will only work in NS 3.1+, because there
>>>was a bug in NS 3 that converted the RGB directly to CMYK. Try this:
>>
>>[...workaround deleted...]
>>
>>No!
>>
>>The problem is that Virtuoso converts all colors to CMYK internally
>>without asking, from the screen representation and using the (wrong)
>>formula CMYK = 1 - RGB, instead of relying on the AppKit's Pantone
>>and calibrated color handling, which JUST WORKS (TM).
>>
>>Marcel
To be fair, Virtuoso 1.0 has always said that it was a 2.1 app (like
PasteUp and a few other things). Pantone colors are a 3.0 thing, and
I'm sure people running 2.1 are happy that Virtuoso has Pantone.
I've used Virtuoso a fair amount, mainly because I get a lot of
artwork as FreeHand files, and Virtuoso is a great app. This is
the only bug I've had with the program, and given it's 1.0 status,
I find that amazing. It's also not like there's not workarounds,
painful though they might be for some docs that have most of their
colors specified with Pantone colors.
As long as Virtuoso 1.1 comes out soon, I'm a happy user.
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gif
Date: 18 Jan 1994 21:58:47 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2hhm2n$7n4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2hhkq6$b3s@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Michael Raskin Andrews writes
> Sorry if this if a FAQ, but could someone email me the name of
> a program to convert GIF to tiff or eps? Thanks --- mra@mit.edu
ImageViewer. Its one the archives (see the FAQ if you don't know
where they are)
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau)
Subject: Re: Microphone Pro, NS 3.2, Black HW, and ZMODEM
Message-ID: <1994Jan18.181252.619@planon.qc.ca>
Sender: yanik@planon.qc.ca
References: <znr758759214k@quark.uucp>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 18:12:52 GMT
In article <znr758759214k@quark.uucp> enyaw@quark.uucp (Wayne Simila-Dickinson) writes:
> I have an 040 cube running NS 3.2 and Microphone II 1.0. File transfer
> via ZMODEM no longer works. Is there a solution, patch, new version?
> If not does someone have an e-mail address for Software Ventures?
>
> --
> more later.
>
> -Wayne
>
> ++===================================================================++
> || Friends don't let friends use QWK on USENET ||
> || Public PGP key available on request or by FINGER on quark ||
> ++===================================================================++
I have solved the problem by replacing sz and rz in the MicroPhone.app directory. Since
that moment, my problems with ZModem have stoped.
The internet address of Software Venture is written in page 360 of the MicroPhone II
reference manual. (The last time I have put an information from a reference manuel on the
net, I have received a letter from a lawyer telling me I have brocken the Copyrights of
that manual...)
Yanik
--
Yanik Crepeau
Programmer
Planon Telexpertise
E-Mail: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT)
From: cjb@canopus.Stanford.EDU (Cecil Bloch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Date: 19 Jan 1994 00:30:38 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2hhuve$9mi@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Is there a WWW client / browser for the NeXT (black hardware)? I have
tried the one at info.cern.ch /pub/www/bin/next and found it to be buggy,
unstable, and clunky... Any others out there?
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT BBS Software
Date: 19 Jan 1994 02:38:36 GMT
Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX
Message-ID: <2hi6fc$587@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2hfhuv$33s@news1.digex.net>
Keywords: bbs, next
There is a company down in Florida, called Coconet I believe, who was
developing a NEXT GUI BBS that would allow NeXTs (with the proper software
installed on the remote machines) and PCs (under the same conditions)
to dial up to a BBS server. I will post their EMAIL address if I can find it.
Dave
--
Advanced Business Systems A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller
(919) 682-8553 [Voice] 19 Joci Court
(919) 682-1126 [Fax] Durham, North Carolina 27704
****EFFECTIVE 10 JANUARY 1994, PLEASE SEND EMAIL TO: info@absystems.com****
From: pedja@cs.umd.edu (& Bogdanovich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Comm apps for NSIP
Date: 19 Jan 1994 02:55:35 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <PEDJA.94Jan18215535@midgard.cs.umd.edu>
References: <CJt024.8zI@kaiwan.com> <2hhgaa$851@netnews.upenn.edu>
In-reply-to: lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu's message of 18 Jan 1994 20:20:26 GMT
In article <2hhgaa$851@netnews.upenn.edu> lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Jim Lipton) writes:
In article <CJt024.8zI@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) writes:
>What is available for the Intel as far as a decent comm program? Is there a
>TipTop for Intel? How about wordprocessors for Intel? I'm asking for a
>friend; I'm still true black - Happy MLK Day!
>
>-chip
>
Pedja Bogdanovich's TipTop 0.93 is excellent.
It's a simple but beautifully designed sz/rz/-interface,
and it works the first time on Intel w/ NS 3.2. Costs 25 bucks
to unlock (otherwise only works for 15 min) and
it's worth every penny.
To obtain a copy of intel TipTop, send an email message to
<pedja@umiacs.umd.edu> with subject line "send tiptop intel". You
will receive an email message ~285K which contains uuencoded
TipTop/FIP.
Pedja
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Parallel port messed up under PNI 1.6 on NS/I 3.2
Date: 19 Jan 1994 03:03:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2hi7tt$h85@news.service.uci.edu>
Intel NS 3.2
Parallel port connected to HP IIIP Postscript Printer.
Printer works well under any app, say TeXView, or directe lpr.
Problem 1:
once PNI 1.6 is loaded, if I click PRINT say under TeXView,
it seems to take longer to get the print panel.
Problem 2:
If I terminate PNI 1.6 in any way (say, by using pnistat, or kill,
or due to modem drop DTR), then when I click PRINT under TeXView
or any other app, the spinning disk appears on the screen
but the print panel
never comes up. In fact, I can not even power off the machine
if I do select logout and power-off, the app is still running
with the spinning disk trying to get the print panel(of course
I could just shut the power).
I cannot print anything by lpr either.
My print job just stays in the queue.
Tryed various things, such as reset the printer, switch on and off
the printer, clear the print queue, did not work.
I had to use Process Moniter to kill TeXview, and then reboot
the machine, then everything is fine again until you start and
terminate PNI.
PNI uses one serial port, how could it mess up the parallel port?
I have an internal modem set to serial port 2, PNI set up to use cufb.
Did anybody have the same problem? Any help or info is well come.
Thank you.
Feng Liu
UC, Irvine
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Parallel port messed up under PNI 1.6 on NS/I 3.2
Date: 19 Jan 1994 04:02:36 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2hibcs$929@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <2hi7tt$h85@news.service.uci.edu>
In article <2hi7tt$h85@news.service.uci.edu>,
Feng Liu <feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu> wrote:
>Intel NS 3.2
>Parallel port connected to HP IIIP Postscript Printer.
>Printer works well under any app, say TeXView, or directe lpr.
>
>Problem 1:
> once PNI 1.6 is loaded, if I click PRINT say under TeXView,
> it seems to take longer to get the print panel.
I have seen this as well. I don't know exactly what the problem is,
but it appears the machine is sending packets out across the modem link.
I really don't understand this. My printer is designated as private.
I've been looking at the documentation involving Netinfo, thinking perhaps
that something is not optimally configured for a slip link. I have
not recieved any replies to a posting on the same question a week ago.
>Problem 2:
> If I terminate PNI 1.6 in any way (say, by using pnistat, or kill,
> or due to modem drop DTR), then when I click PRINT under TeXView
> or any other app, the spinning disk appears on the screen
> but the print panel
> never comes up. In fact, I can not even power off the machine
[misc deleted]
>PNI uses one serial port, how could it mess up the parallel port?
>I have an internal modem set to serial port 2, PNI set up to use cufb.
>
I don't think the parallel port itself is affected. Its the printer
queue and Apps that interact with it are. What these Apps are sending
over the modem link are the key to the mystery.
I have not had the problem with shuting down PNI and then using an
application or printer. It shuts down properly for me.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: seeking text to speech converter
Message-ID: <CJtCy1.M1o@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <2h4pt4$k4s@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 07:03:36 GMT
In article <2h4pt4$k4s@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> nando@ccrma.stanford.edu writes:
>Hi all!
>
>A new potential user of our computers is visually impaired.
>Is anybody out there aware of any speech to text tool that
>might be used to give access to the computer? Any experience
>is this situation will be extremely helpful.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>-- Fernando
>nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
There's the Trillium Sound Research TextToSpeech Kit. It runs on black
hardware right now and an enhanced version is planned for the white hardware
in mid 1994. Email trillium@trillium.ab.ca for more details (or phone
1-800-L-ORATOR (1-800-567-2867).
david
--
david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more
voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge.
nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: doa@nol503 (David Dowd)
Subject: VMS Keyboard Emulation
Message-ID: <CJvI73.Cn@ubszh.net.ch>
Sender: usenet@ubszh.net.ch (news)
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 10:52:15 GMT
I want to use my NeXT to do work on our DEC VMS systems
(i.e. use the editor).
The problem is that the NeXT keyboard doesn't have the
same keyboard as DEC. VMS keys such as (Do) don't exist
on NeXT.
I think I need a way to create these keys. I don't want
to have to know or enter escape sequences - that's too
technical for me.
Anyone have any ideas? I can picture a 'Terminal' program
with a 'keyboard' window showing a VMS keyboard and that
I'm able to send the keystroke simply by clicking on the
desired key.
Please send me mail direct to: doa@nol500.ubszh.net.ch
regards,
david
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Digital Librarian indexing: why does DL search index then files?
Date: 19 Jan 1994 06:51:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401191251.AA02837@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Here we go again...
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 94 23:36:07 GMT
From: malc (To: comp-sys-next-programmer@cs.utexas.edu)
To: comp-sys-next-programmer@cs.utexas.edu
Subject: Librarian bug? Man page topics don't show up
Cc: roland@gomidas.mi.org, annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl
Reply-To: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Sorry this is a bit "chatty", it's from a newsletter I'm putting
together, but it might help...
"
Under NEXTSTEP 3.2 Digital Librarian (DL) exhibits some
counter-intuitive behaviour. If you index a direcory using DL and then
search on that indexed target, DL first uses the index to perform the
familiar fast find we all know and love, but then it continues to
search the contents of all the files within the target as if no index
were present. The reason for this was explained by Matt Watson
(Matt_Watson@NeXT.com):
You have to index with ixbuild -s (at least) if you want "static"
indexes. (DL doesn't do this if you use the target inspector to
index). Otherwise, DL thinks that the source may have changed, so
after it searches the index, it goes through all the source files...
This behaviour is counter-intuitive, so I've filed a bug against it.
To work around this "bug" you therefore have to index targets from the
Unix command-line. To do this: open a Terminal window, and type
cd targetDirectoryName
where targetDirectoryName is the full pathname of the directory you
would like to index (as a shortcut you can simply type cd and then drag
the folder icon for the target directory into the Terminal window: this
will "type in" the pathname for you).
If you have previously created an index, you should remove it, either
by typing
/bin/rm .index.store
or by using Workspace as normal.
To index, type
ixbuild -fgsv -LEnglish .
(note the final "."). This will now create the index for you.
"
-- note also the -g option; from the man pages:
-g Generate descriptions automatically from file
contents.
this will show the topics in Librarian.
I hope this helps,
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
---
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Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569
Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972
Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk
211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail welcome)
Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Intuitiv 3d wanted
Message-ID: <1994Jan18.180504.1129@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <CJFIp8.BF@manki.toppoint.de>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 18:05:04 GMT
In article <CJFIp8.BF@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred
Roehr) writes:
> Hi,
>
> several requests to:
>
> Olivier Aubin <iansolo@cubx.com>,
> info@cubx.com,
> intuitiv@cubx.com,
> intuitiv_api@cubx.com
>
> for LOGFILE APP were not answered. Does anybody know why, or doesn t
> cubX exist anymore?
>
> thanks for any answers
>
> Manfred
>
> --
> ***************************************************************
> * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de *
> * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 *
> * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 *
> * Germany NeXT-mail welcome *
> ***************************************************************
They gone out of busyness in France like other former NeXT distributors.
The dream is over!!!
I think that Intuitive technology US is still alive. I will post their
E-mail as soon as I get it.
--Fabien
___________________________________________________________________
Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org
NeXTmail OK
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Colours and Apps
Date: 19 Jan 1994 13:09:49 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2hjbet$2n4@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1994Jan10.162348.1896@boba.rhein-main.de> <1994Jan17.171820.11427@altsys.com> <2hg5ur$60v@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <1994Jan18.154958.26040@altsys.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes:
>I'm sorry, but what you're saying isn't exactly true. We do an
>internal conversion to CMYK, but don't use the CMYK = 1 - RGB to do
>it.
Hmmm, so how come when I select an RGB spot color, the CMY values
are EXACTLY 1-RGB when I look at the resultung EPS/PS?
OK, I get it, you probably never looked at the RGB values but believed
the fairy-tale CMYK values NeXT was giving you. (Well, actually:
perfectly accurate, device-dependent CMYK values for the NeXT monitor :-)
So your own conversion routines (which I have heard praised for images)
never got to see the spot color RGB values.
So I guess it's not guilt by silliness but guilt by believing somebody
else's silliness (and believing that CMYK colors are device-indepedent...)
Apologies,
Marcel
From: keith@starburst.umd.edu (Keith Norris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Question about shells
Date: 19 Jan 1994 14:50:46 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <2hjhc6$7e4@gamera.umd.edu>
--
**************************************************************************
* Keith L. Norris | keith@starburst.umd.edu *
* Frostburg State University | c2mxnorr@fre.fsu.umd.edu *
* *
* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *
* ! DETERMINED TO LEARN - NO GIVING UP WHERE I'M FROM ! *
* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *
* *
**************************************************************************
From: steve@ma.neavs.com (Steven W. Schuldt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXHost - Postscript Runs Where?
Date: 19 Jan 1994 09:38:42 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401191458.AA03290@ma.neavs.com>
Hi,
Does anyone know where the postscript code is handled
when running an app on a remote host? Am I correct in
believing that the local window server executes it? Only
wondering because I'm absorbed in delusions of having an
appless Gecko hooked up to my app-filled NeXTstation
Turbo and running graphics apps with (somewhat)
accelerated performance. :)
Thanx in advance...
- Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jeales@smith.re.ualberta.ca (James Eales)
Subject: NeXT Gopher
Message-ID: <1994Jan19.150141.308@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Keywords: gopher addresses
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 15:01:41 GMT
I often see gopher addresses, such as:
nags2.nag.co.uk 70
for NAG software. My question is how does one
use such an address in NeXT Gopher?
I use verion 1.3.2 by Jim LeBay at MSU.
thanks.
Jim Eales
Univ of Alberta
jeales@muth.re.ualberta.ca
From: max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu (Max Hailperin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: scheme, lisp,ML,prolog for NS/Intel
Date: 19 Jan 94 09:46:13
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, MN
Message-ID: <MAX.94Jan19094613@Kolmogorov.gac.edu>
References: <1994Jan11.171007.587@news.wesleyan.edu>
<CEDMAN.94Jan13083447@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<2hf7ui$id0@netnews.upenn.edu>
In-reply-to: lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu's message of 17 Jan 94 23:45:22 GMT
In article <2hf7ui$id0@netnews.upenn.edu> lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu
(Jim Lipton) writes:
In article <CEDMAN.94Jan13083447@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>Well, I haven't tried compiling Schematik under NS3.2, but I just
>started my old binary and it came up just fine with this message:
>
>;Scheme Microcode Version 11.59
>;MIT Scheme running under NeXT
>;
>;Scheme saved on Thursday September 3, 1992 at 9:40:56 AM
>; Release 7.1.3
>; Microcode 11.59
>; Runtime 14.104
>; Schematik 1.1
>
>Why don't you try and get the binary for Schematik instead if you have
>compilation problems ?
As the co-author of Schematik, I figured I'd better clarify this for
the newsgroup at large, even though I'd early sent mail to Lipton.
Edman is talking about running Schematik on 3.2/Motorola, while Lipton
asked about 3.2/Intel. Clearly the old 2.x binary won't run on
Lipton's Intel system.
For Schematik itself, i.e. the front-end editor or programming
environment, it should be possible to compile for NS/Intel. The
sources as distributed don't compile under NS 3.x, but in the
distribution directory with them is a set of patches that should make
them compile under 3.x. Athough I haven't tried it myself, I've heard
reports that these patches suffice to make the Schematik front end
compile under NS/Intel, at least 3.1, probably 3.2 as well.
However, none of this applies to the MIT Scheme "back end", i.e. the
actual underlying Scheme implementation that is packaged with
Schematik. I do not know of any version of MIT Scheme has been
succesfully ported to NS/Intel at this point. Certainly the 7.1.3
that is currently packaged with Schematik is not a promising
candidate. This Summer I'm hoping to upgrade Schematik to a more
recent MIT Scheme and get the whole package running under NS/Intel.
Someone else is also welcome to do this in the meantime, of course,
though I must warn such a person that MIT Scheme is a bit of a
challenge to a newcomer. Another tact I might take would be to
integrate some smaller, more portable Scheme implementaion, like scm,
into a multi-architecture Schematik. This is all speculation, of
course -- free vaporware is always even more vaporous than vaporware
generally.
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Gopher
Date: 19 Jan 1994 16:32:10 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hjnaa$4k5@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <1994Jan19.150141.308@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <1994Jan19.150141.308@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
jeales@smith.re.ualberta.ca (James Eales) writes:
> I often see gopher addresses, such as:
>
> nags2.nag.co.uk 70
>
> for NAG software. My question is how does one
> use such an address in NeXT Gopher?
> I use verion 1.3.2 by Jim LeBay at MSU.
> thanks.
Choose File/Open Gopher. Type "nags2.nag.co.uk" in the Hostname field
and "70" in the port number field. (70 is the default port for gopher, so you
don't really need to enter it; but any number other than 70 would have to be
entered.)
--
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fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ND software upgrade
Date: 17 Jan 1994 20:34:03 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2hesnr$f5r@rosie.next.com>
References: <2h9166$7p2@umigw.miami.edu>
In article <2h9166$7p2@umigw.miami.edu> doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu writes:
> I plan on upgrading my mono cube (non-turbo) running 3.0 to a 2-headed
> NeXTdimension system running 3.2. From the old ND literature ("Getting
> Started with NeXTdimension"), it appears as though the upgrade requires
> installing ND updates and ND update extensions. With my ND purchase, I
> received a floppy of ND updates applicable to systems running 2.0 and
2.1.
>
> Are the ND updates (and extensions) for 3.2 on the NeXTstep (and NS
> developer) CDs, or do I need to contact NeXT about purchasing additional
> software?
Everything you need to run a NeXTdimension system is bundled in the
NEXTSTEP User software release.
The old ND literature refers to a NeXTdimension update floppy which
updated Release 2.1 of NEXTSTEP to support NeXTdimension hardware.
NEXTSTEP 2.2 and 3.x releases include full support for the NeXTdimension
hardware.
If your system is running NEXTSTEP 2.2 or later, you don't need (or want)
to use the NeXTdimension update floppies.
Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM
----
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Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility,
and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. In fact, it
was probably produced by line noise.
From: szallies@koenig.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Constantin Szallies (PG234))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PD Spreadsheet
Date: 19 Jan 1994 17:01:49 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Sender: szallies@koenig (Constantin Szallies (PG234))
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hjp1t$fqv@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
Keywords: spreadsheet
Hi folks,
does anybody know, if there's a PD or shareware spreadsheet around for
NS/Intel ?
I found one one ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. It's called Sc and is running
with Unix. No sources are included, and it only compiled for Motorola :-(
Does anyone know a ftp site (in germany) where I can suck the sources?
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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From: hbergh@nl.oracle.com (Herbert vd Bergh)
Subject: Re: dos2unix replacement?
Message-ID: <CJvxzH.53o@nl.oracle.com>
Sender: news@nl.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Europe
References: <AhCKLfy00iUz81bdUp@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 16:33:16 GMT
In article <AhCKLfy00iUz81bdUp@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
|> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Jan-94 dos2unix
|> replacement? by Will Estes@netcom.com
|> > After unpacking a large archive of DOS files today under Intel NS 3.2,
|> > I was surprised to see that there was no DOS2UNIX program bundled
|> > in. Is there some other program that serves this need from the
|> > command line?
|>
|> Yes.
|>
|> "tr '\015' '\012' < file.dos > file.unix"
|>
|> will do the job. You might want to alias it like:
No, it won't. This will change every CRLF sequence into 2 LF's,
giving an empty line after every original one. The right way is:
tr -d '\015' < dosfile > unixfile
|> alias dos2unix "tr '\015' '\012' < !:1 > !:1.unix"
Don't know what shell this came from, but /bin/sh likes this better:
dos2unix() { for f in $*; do tr -d '\015' < $f > $f.unix; done }
Herbert.
From: gbol@custard.think.com (Gregory Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: pthreads on NS3.X or MACH, any PD implementations? will NeXT convert?
Date: 19 Jan 94 13:28:35
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GBOL.94Jan19132835@custard.think.com>
I am looking for a freely available pthread implementation running on Mach
or that is known to run on NS3.X.
I am not merely looking for a chtreads wrapper but would prefer that it run
directly on MACH threads.
I would appreciated any pointers on this info.
Is NeXT planning to release a pthreads library?
thanks,
gregory
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From: gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: Need to convert NeXT .tiff to .bmp and .gif for Windows
Message-ID: <1994Jan19.184658.19133@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 18:46:58 GMT
Does anyone know a program to convert NeXT .tiff to .bmp and .gif
for Windows 3.1. Hopefully some shareware or something on one
of the archives exists. I would prefer to run the program under
DOS rather than on the NeXT
Thanks,
Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: Comm apps for NSIP
Message-ID: <CJw70n.9D9@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <CJt024.8zI@kaiwan.com> <2hhgaa$851@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 19:48:22 GMT
lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Jim Lipton) writes:
>In article <CJt024.8zI@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) writes:
>>What is available for the Intel as far as a decent comm program? Is there a
>>TipTop for Intel? How about wordprocessors for Intel? I'm asking for a
>>friend; I'm still true black - Happy MLK Day!
>>
>>-chip
>>
>Pedja Bogdanovich's TipTop 0.93 is excellent.
>It's a simple but beautifully designed sz/rz/-interface,
>and it works the first time on Intel w/ NS 3.2. Costs 25 bucks
>to unlock (otherwise only works for 15 min) and
>it's worth every penny.
>--
>Jim Lipton
>=====================================================================
> Dept. of Mathematics (home:)
> Wesleyan University 12 Knowles Ave. Ext.
> Middletown CT 06459-0128 Middletown, CT 06457
> (203) 347-9411 (203) 344-0552
>================================================================
>e-mail: jlipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu
>=====================================================================
I partially agree with what Jim Lipton says about TipTop 0.93.
However, if one is forced to work with a system which does not
support 8 bits, no-parity; one is unable to employ the sz/rz-interface
sucessfully. At least it does not work for me. I was told that
some "workaround" was forthcoming, but have seen nothing yet.
Aditionally, one is unable to obtain 80x65 windows such as those
available under Stuart. I believe 80x53 is the current limit.
Again, Pedja said that he would soon fix this.
Bottom line: Until the above two problem are fixed, the preferred
modem interface for me is Stuart combined with tip. Hopefully,
TipTop will one day "top tip" but not as yet. Your milage may vary.
--Tim
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From: mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Gopher
Date: 19 Jan 1994 20:13:13 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hk48p$2il@news.UU.NET>
References: <1994Jan19.150141.308@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <2hjnaa$4k5@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Is there a way to force NeXT Gopher to use something other than ViewGIF3.0 to
view pictures or to dynamically chose which app to use by filename extension?
=====================================================
Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
=====================================================
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From: fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong)
Subject: DarkForest
Message-ID: <1994Jan19.125658.7334@wicket.fdn.org>
Sender: news@wicket.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Paris, France.
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 12:56:58 GMT
Is there a version MAB of DarkForest ?
Where find it ?
FReD
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NeXT mail ok
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need to convert NeXT .tiff to .bmp and .gif for Windows
Date: 19 Jan 1994 21:41:53 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2hk9f1$s87@news.duke.edu>
References: <CJw6xB.JBL@dvorak.amd.com>
Ron Pomeroy x(Coop) writes
> OOPs...That's Lennart Lovestrand not Lennard.
^^^^^
No, actually that's Lennart Lovstrand. :-)
Denise
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From: blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: AcChen crashing under NS 3.2 Moto
Date: 19 Jan 1994 21:51:32 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA
Message-ID: <2hka14$sel@news.duke.edu>
I recently upgraded my standalone Turbo Color from NS 3.1 to 3.2. I didn't
notice if this started happening right away or later, but now AcChen crashes
right away upon launch. It gets as far as putting up the "Welcome to AcChen"
window, and almost as fast as you can blink it all disappears. The "WELCOME!"
sound is not played.
I tried re-installing AcChen, but this made no difference.
Can anyone tell me what's wrong before I go into severe withdrawal? Does
AcChen not run under 3.2?
Denise (AcChen Addict) Blakeley
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From: Tim Bissell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Illumination of ps(1) output anybody?
Date: 19 Jan 1994 09:52:50 GMT
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK
Message-ID: <2hivti$74l@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
Keywords: ps
Does anyone know why the output of the ps(1) command puts some command
names in parentheses? Are they all children of init(1)? I coulden't
find any explanation in the ps man page.
$ ps auxww
...
bisselt 239 0.8 1.3 1.73M 432K p1 S 0:01 -bash (bash)
root 2 0.0 0.2 768K 72K co S 0:02 (mach_init)
..
root 21 0.0 1.0 6.66M 312K ? S 0:01 (nmserver)
root 104 0.0 0.3 1.51M 112K ? SW 0:00 (ypbind)
..
root 120 0.0 0.2 1.59M 64K ? S 0:04 (biod)
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From: ron@nosc.mil (Ron Broersma)
Subject: Re: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Message-ID: <1994Jan19.224854.24071@nosc.mil>
Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News)
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA
References: <2hhuve$9mi@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 22:48:54 GMT
In article <2hhuve$9mi@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> cjb@canopus.Stanford.EDU (Cecil
Bloch) writes:
> Is there a WWW client / browser for the NeXT (black hardware)? I have
> tried the one at info.cern.ch /pub/www/bin/next and found it to be buggy,
> unstable, and clunky... Any others out there?
I seem to recall that some months ago someone volunteered to build a Mosaic for
the native NEXTSTEP environment so you wouldn't have to mess around with
running X. Is there any progress on that? I still think that NEXTSTEP would
make a perfect platform for such an application and it is a shame that it
doesn't exist.
--Ron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Re: Graphic Packages w/Student Pricing for NS/I
Message-ID: <1994Jan19.155354.293@stone.com>
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
References: <1994Jan17.185647.11722@altsys.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 15:53:54 GMT
In article <1994Jan17.185647.11722@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin
Rivers III) writes:
> In article <nemiroal.11.000905D9@bus.orst.edu> nemiroal@bus.orst.edu
writes:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I was wondering what packages are out there for NS/I that are good and
have
> >discounts for Students. I am looking for something that will perform
or
> >outperform Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator, Autodesk 3Ds, Autocad. In
addition,
> >I am looking to do Multimedia.. does anything exist?
> >btw, I reason I say like "Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator....etc...etc." is
> >because I have been told that these apps are not availible for NS/I.
> >
> >These are the ones that I know exist for NS/I and their prices.
> >Intuitiv 3'd -- $150
> >ZZVolume -- $1000
> >WetPaint -- $99
> >TiffanyII -- $245
> >
>
> Virtuoso's edu price is $299
>
Create's edu price is $99.
andrew
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Has anyone compiled the latest MusicKit without error?
Date: 19 Jan 94 22:29:23 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.759018563@uiuc.edu>
Has anyone been able to unpackage the latest MusicKit source code and
simply compile the whole thing with a single "make"; that is, without
errors that stop the compilation run?
Thanks,
--
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dos2unix replacement?
Date: 19 Jan 1994 15:07:51 -0800
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <2hkeg7$ivl@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
References: <westesCJpL2x.EDn@netcom.com>
westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>After unpacking a large archive of DOS files today under Intel NS 3.2,
>I was surprised to see that there was no DOS2UNIX program bundled
>in. Is there some other program that serves this need from the
>command line?
cat dosfile | tr '\015' '\012' > unixfile
--
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bill@cognet.ucla.edu "Will hack life for food"
310-206-3960 (3987 fax) ..................
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Need to convert NeXT .tiff to .bmp and .gif for Windows
Message-ID: <CJwFtI.83I@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <2hk9f1$s87@news.duke.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 22:58:29 GMT
In article <2hk9f1$s87@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
writes:
>>Ron Pomeroy x(Coop) writes
>>> OOPs...That's Lennart Lovestrand not Lennard.
>> ^^^^^
>>No, actually that's Lennart Lovstrand. :-)
>>
>>Denise
>>--
>>Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar
>>Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
>>Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
>>(919) 286-6468 W | reward.
>>blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
AAAAAAAAAA.
I cont typ!
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Advanced Micro Devices
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From: me@helser18.res.iastate.edu (My Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOOM for colour NeXT's (black hardware)?
Date: 20 Jan 1994 00:45:44 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hkk7o$b4q@news.iastate.edu>
I have heard that there was a version of DOOM for colour NeXT's (black).
Is it true? Where can I find it?
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From: tanaka@til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Subject: Wescon 94 - Matlab, MathCAD, Mathematica
Message-ID: <1994Jan19.024047.7712@til.til.com>
Sender: usenet@til.til.com
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.
References: <16F41717.S967701@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 02:40:47 GMT
To users of mathematics softwares:
I am serving as the technical conference chairman for Wescon 94 to be
held in Anaheim, California (near Disneyland) on September 27-29, 1994.
An interesting technical session on "Mathematics Software in Engineering"
is forming, but it needs a little bit of rounding out.
We have had several paper proposals regarding the use of Mathematica
in engineering, and were looking to balance it out by soliciting papers
for Matlab, MathCAD, and any other math softwares. We are looking for
how mathematics softwares are used, or have helped you in accomplishing
tasks, etc.
If you are interested, please send me a proposal with your address/phone
information and a brief abstract (of no more than 250 words). The
required information appears at the bottom of this message. E-mailing
it to tanaka@til.com is fine; you can also fax it to 714-588-3800.
Wescon is a broad electronics conference consisting of exhibitions and
a technical conference. The total attendance for the conference ranges
from 3000 to 5000+. The technical sessions can draw anywhere from 40 to
100 people depending on the subject matter (I think this session would
draw on the high side). If your paper is accepted, you are expected to
present in person; and unfortunately, Wescon does not reimburse any expenses
such as travel, lodging for the presenter. (I hope this doesn't discourage
everyone from considering submitting.)
I need to know pretty much right away, if you have interest in doing a
paper. The final paper should be 3 to 6 pages in length.
The abstracts are due ... well, now.
The paper is not due until July 5, 1994.
I hope to hear from at least some of you. Thank you.
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Paper Title: ______________________________________
Paper Abstract: _______(250 words or less, but not more)________________
_____________________________________________________...
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Title: ____________________________________________
Address: __________________________________________
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Need to convert NeXT .tiff to .bmp and .gif for Windows
Message-ID: <CJw6pB.IxI@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <1994Jan19.184658.19133@sol.UVic.CA>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 19:41:35 GMT
In article <1994Jan19.184658.19133@sol.UVic.CA> gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg
Toews) writes:
>>Does anyone know a program to convert NeXT .tiff to .bmp and .gif
>>for Windows 3.1. Hopefully some shareware or something on one
>>of the archives exists. I would prefer to run the program under
>>DOS rather than on the NeXT
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Greg
ImageViewer.app has an item in the pulldown menu (in the save panel) for this
format conversion but it's disabled in my version. I'm not sure when (if ever)
Lennard Lovestrand plans to implement this feature.
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Need to convert NeXT .tiff to .bmp and .gif for Windows
Message-ID: <CJw6xB.JBL@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <1994Jan19.184658.19133@sol.UVic.CA>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 19:46:22 GMT
In article <1994Jan19.184658.19133@sol.UVic.CA> gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg
Toews) writes:
>>Does anyone know a program to convert NeXT .tiff to .bmp and .gif
>>for Windows 3.1. Hopefully some shareware or something on one
>>of the archives exists. I would prefer to run the program under
>>DOS rather than on the NeXT
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Greg
OOPs...That's Lennart Lovestrand not Lennard.
--
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Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
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From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky)
Subject: VLB IDE Controllers?
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.024636.12067@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 02:46:36 GMT
Does anyone know which (if any) VLB IDE controllers work under NS/iP? Thanx.
LT
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From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t.balasubramanian)
Subject: Help: regarding drivers
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.033732.13355@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 03:37:32 GMT
Hi,
We want to do simple slow IO with a NeXTStep Intel machine, along the
lines of "put this byte out to that IO port" and "read a byte from that IO
port". We expected some simple functions similar to outb() and inb() from
microsoft (DOS) c to exist, and, infact the "same" functions were found in
"\NextDeveloper\Headers\driverkit\i386\ioPorts.h". They include the
warning "Note: These functions work only at kernel level". Does this mean
that we must write some complex device driver ?. If so does the generic
version exist or any suggestions as to how to go about writing will be
appreciated.
We tested our board to which we want to write or read by booting
the intel 486 to DOS and that works as we expected. But then we tried to
do the same thing by booting the system to NeXTStep with the above
mentioned ioPorts.h header file included and the application just quits
when we try to write to the port.
We would greatly appreciate any suggestions from anyone familiar
with these as to what is it that we are missing here. If possible please
reply to balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu.
Thanks very much for your time
Balu
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GNU install-info program
Date: 20 Jan 1994 04:27:44 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hl180$f39@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Several Makefiles for GNU utilities reference a program
called 'install-info'. My guess is that this program will
update the 'dir' file used by the GNU info utility. However,
I have been unable to file the program 'install-info'. Anybody
have a pointer they could pass along to me?
Ex:
-------------------------------------------
# Run install-info only if it exists.
# Use `if' instead of just prepending `-' to the
# line so we notice real errors from install-info.
if install-info --version >/dev/null 2>&1; then \
install-info --infodir=$(infodir) $$d/foo.info; \
else true; fi
-------------------------------------------
TIA for all responses!
Steve
====================================================================
Stephen Perkins |
Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Michigan State University |
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gif
Date: 20 Jan 1994 04:35:09 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2hl1lt$njf@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2hhm2n$7n4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2hhm2n$7n4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
(Stefano Pagiola) writes:
> ImageViewer. Its one the archives (see the FAQ if you don't know
> where they are)
While we're here... is it possible to save a file in GIF format from
ImageViewer? Graphics Interchange Format is on the list of "Save As" file
types but is always greyed. Am I missing something or is this capability not
implemented yet?
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
Time is just one damn thing after another.
==============================================================================
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Gopher
Date: 20 Jan 1994 04:45:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hl299$nrt@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2hk48p$2il@news.UU.NET>
In article <2hk48p$2il@news.UU.NET> mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
writes:
> Is there a way to force NeXT Gopher to use something other than ViewGIF3.0
> to view pictures or to dynamically chose which app to use by filename
> extension?
Yes there is. Select a .gif file in the Workspace Browser and pull down the
Tools>Inspector menu item. Now select Tools in the Inspector's pop-up menu (or
hit <command><3>) and you will see a listing of all the apps in your
"LocalApps" or "~/Apps" folder which can open images of that type. Click on
the app of your choice and click the Set Default button. For this to work the
app of your choice (I use ImageViewer) must be either in /LocalApps. ~/Apps,
or in the Dock. This works for any file type.
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
Time is just one damn thing after another.
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From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer == ProcessorHog
Date: 20 Jan 1994 05:00:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2hl35p$o8a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Here's something I noticed the other day... while I realize that CPU watcher
utilities don't always give really accurate readings of system load I felt
this was significant. I usually leave NewsGrazer running in the background
while I do other things, having it update articles once an hour. The other day
I put TimeMon on my dock and noticed I had a 25% load on my system with
nothing at all happening (NG was not in the process of updating groups and
nothing else of significance was happening). In order to see who the culprit
was I closed all open apps one at a time, no effect until I got to NG. After
closing it my load dropped from +25% to under 5%. What in the world is NG
doing with 25% of my cycles (as if I had them to spare)? It's very easy to
just close it when I need the CPU for something else but it's rather curious
and kind of annoying. Any ideas?
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
Time is just one damn thing after another.
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: moving junked articles to correct place?
Message-ID: <CJwEIy.106@nyro.com>
Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - 415 664-1170
References: <CJp3yx.79t@nyro.com>
Distribution: world usa ba ca na
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 22:30:33 GMT
Lets try this again!
Someone sent me a script that creates the groups for me when an article is
junked.
That was great (thanks Dennis). Now I want to put the articles in junk
where they belong. The problem I am having is that I get a "duplicate"
message in /usr/local/lib/news/log for each article (messgae-id problem).
How do I correct this? I am using cnews.
Ian H. Stewart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: color printer ppds needed
Message-ID: <CJwEop.10x@nyro.com>
Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - 415 664-1170
References: <CJp35D.760@nyro.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 22:34:01 GMT
Let's try this again!
Where do I find ppds for any of the following:
HP 1200c ps option
Canon BJC-600 no ps option
QMS 1000 ?
Apple Color Printer ?
I have looked at the NeXT Color Printer and the black tends to bleed into
my colors. I know the Apple Color is the same printer, but it only cost
$445.00.
Any help is appreciated.
Ian H. Stewart
From: dekorte@next1.scri.fsu.edu (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: phoneKit/MessageCenter problem
Message-ID: <13346@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>
Date: 20 Jan 94 04:29:00 GMT
Sender: news@sun13.scri.fsu.edu
I've just gotten a Hayes ISDN Extender for my home NeXTstation and
tried to run the MessageCenter app in:
/NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit/MessageCenter
When I recieve a call, it picks up the phone and instead of playing the
greating message, it plays a burst of static of the same length,and then
records the message.
I've tried using different greeting messages, but this doesn't help.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
Is it a problem with the extender or the messageCenter app?
Also, I'm using the analog(POTS) line connection.
Thanks for any help,
Steve
Ps. Please respond by email.
ic of the same length,and then
records the message.
I've tried using different greeting messages, but this doesn't help.
Does any
From: bg@la.async.vt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VMS Keyboard Emulation
Date: 20 Jan 1994 06:09:37 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <2hl771$981@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <CJvI73.Cn@ubszh.net.ch>
David Dowd writes
> The problem is that the NeXT keyboard doesn't have the
> same keyboard as DEC. VMS keys such as (Do) don't exist
> on NeXT.
You can use ctrl-B if you don't have Do-key. Other goodies follow
if you set up complete vt100.
--
Under Construction. :-@
From: mallen@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: XV binary for Mosiac
Date: 20 Jan 1994 07:54:35 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hldbr$buo@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Keywords: binary, help, X, Mosaic
I am looking for a binary version of xv (the graphics utility for X
windows) that is compatible with mono Cubes running Mouse X.
A kind sole sent me his binary for Cub'X, but it doesn't seem to work.
Any help from people running Mouse-X?
Thanks.
--
mallen@nwu.edu (NeXTMail welcome)
"People called him Two Gun Corchran, but not because
sported two pistols." Little Bill Daggett
finger mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu for PGP public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: goli@plains.NoDak.edu (Venkata Nagarjuna Rao Goli)
Subject: NeXT Mouse S/W
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <CJwFAv.1CBK@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 22:47:19 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rvangeen@esq.com (Rob VanGeen)
Subject: Re: Where does Mail.app keep its personal address directory?
Message-ID: <CJx9Lw.Kyp@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
References: <1994Jan18.203421.4744@seer.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 09:41:53 GMT
In article <1994Jan18.203421.4744@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul
Lynch) writes:
> The other sections of the Mail Addresses panel come from elsewhere (Users,
> Groups and Login Names).
>
How does one manage the Users and Groups entries? Where are they stored?
Rob
From: hill@iisnext2.unil.ch (Sean Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does HASKELL exist for NEXT?
Date: 20 Jan 1994 10:14:25 GMT
Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland)
Message-ID: <2hlli1$lsj@cisun2000.unil.ch>
Keywords: HASKELL, Lisp-like programming languages
If anyone has any information about an implementation of the HASKELL
programming language that is available either freely or commercially for
NEXTSTEP, could they please forward any information to:
cartier@iisnext1.unil.ch
Thank you very much.
Sean Hill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: johnb@ripley.uucp (John L Bergquist)
Subject: NewsBase without NNTP
Message-ID: <CJx52w.Mx6@ripley.uucp>
Organization: The Rathole
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 08:04:08 GMT
I'm looking for a NS GUI news app that I can use on NS Intel (NewsGrazer is
not available for Intel machines, of course). I've copied NewsBase from an
archive server, but it seems to require NNTP. A friend of mine thinks there
might be a way to use NewsBase without an NNTP server (my local PC has all
the news flatfiles I want to read). Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thanks in advance,
-John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt)
Subject: Re: Comm apps for NSIP
Message-ID: <1994Jan19.100256.6339@drefla.mese.com>
Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com
Organization: Applied Engineering
References: <2hhgaa$851@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 10:02:56 GMT
In article <2hhgaa$851@netnews.upenn.edu> lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Jim
Lipton) writes:
> In article <CJt024.8zI@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
writes:
> >What is available for the Intel as far as a decent comm program? Is there a
> >TipTop for Intel? How about wordprocessors for Intel? I'm asking for a
> >friend; I'm still true black - Happy MLK Day!
> >
> >-chip
> >
>
> Pedja Bogdanovich's TipTop 0.93 is excellent.
> It's a simple but beautifully designed sz/rz/-interface,
> and it works the first time on Intel w/ NS 3.2. Costs 25 bucks
> to unlock (otherwise only works for 15 min) and
> it's worth every penny.
Alternately, you can get Modulator from cs.orst.edu for free. It has a decent
interface (at least I think so) and doesn't need to be unlocked. Send your
money or don't.... It's up to you.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Matt Brandt | If the people will lead
matt@drefla.mese.com | then the leaders will follow
From: ccx009@rowan.coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sendmail on NS 3.0
Followup-To: poster
Date: 20 Jan 1994 13:37:32 -0000
Organization: Coventry University
Message-ID: <2hm1es$rd@rowan.coventry.ac.uk>
IS there a version of sendmail for NeXT's (68040 Black h/w) that works?
I have a lab of NS 3.0 machines and when I attempted to put a new sendmail.cf
on the main gateway machine (one which functions fine on Suns,Decs,SGI's
Sequents, etc.), it makes an absolute nonsense of the rules....
Where can I get a version of sendmail that works?
thanks for any info.
--
_
/-\dam
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FLESH: Adam Bentley (Fraggle), Systems/Networking, Coventry University. UK
INET : adamb@rowan.coventry.ac.uk
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Comm apps for NSIP <<and black hardware>>
Date: 20 Jan 1994 15:49:01 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2hm95d$atp@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <2hhgaa$851@netnews.upenn.edu> <1994Jan19.100256.6339@drefla.mese.c
What other comm apps exist for black hardware?
Randy Jackson
jackson+@osu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: peterson-john@CS.Yale.Edu (John C. Peterson)
Subject: Re: Does HASKELL exist for NEXT?
In-Reply-To: hill@iisnext2.unil.ch's message of 20 Jan 1994 10: 14:25 GMT
Message-ID: <PETERSON-JOHN.94Jan20112126@sparrow.CS.Yale.Edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Computer Science, Yale University, New Haven, CT 06520-2158
References: <2hlli1$lsj@cisun2000.unil.ch>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 11:21:26 GMT
The Yale Haskell system can be built on Allegro Common Lisp if this is
available to you. Yale Haskell is free and can be ftp'ed anonymously
from nebula.cs.yale.edu. You need the source release in
pub/haskell/yale/haskell-source-207.tar.gz.
We are also working on a Nextstep environment for our compiler; this
should be ready in a few months.
I will be happy to answer any further questions regarding Yale
Haskell.
John Peterson
peterson-john@cs.yale.edu
Yale Haskell Project
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dos2unix replacement?
Message-ID: <lichtner.94Jan1914918@gravenstein.cnwra.swri.edu>
From: lichtner@gravenstein.cnwra.swri.edu
Date: 19 Jan 94 14:09:18
Distribution: world
<Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Jan-94 dos2unix
<replacement? by Will Estes@netcom.com
<> After unpacking a large archive of DOS files today under Intel NS 3.2,
<> I was surprised to see that there was no DOS2UNIX program bundled
<> in. Is there some other program that serves this need from the
<> command line?
<Yes.
<"tr '\015' '\012' < file.dos > file.unix"
<will do the job. You might want to alias it like:
<alias dos2unix "tr '\015' '\012' < !:1 > !:1.unix"
<-Chuck
Or you might try adding to your .pipedict file something like this
(see Dos2Unix and Unix2Dos below):
Indent I indent -st
Sort sort
Time date
Eval bc
lower case tr A-Z a-z
UPPER CASE tr a-z A-Z
Dos2Unix tr '\015' '\012'
Unix2Dos tr '\012' '\015'
Strip HR tr '\012' '\040' | tr -s '\040' '\040'
Remove Blanks tr -s '\040' '\040'
... etc. It's not command-line but useful...
Maybe some other folks would like to share their .pipedict and .commandict files?!
...Peter
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Center for Nuclear Waste Regulatory Analyses (CNWRA)
San Antonio, Texas 78238-5166
Work: (210) 522-6084
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Comm apps for NSIP
Date: 20 Jan 1994 17:11:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hmdvt$rfc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <CJw70n.9D9@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
In article <CJw70n.9D9@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim
Pugh) writes:
> I partially agree with what Jim Lipton says about TipTop 0.93.
> However, if one is forced to work with a system which does not
> support 8 bits, no-parity; one is unable to employ the sz/rz-interface
> sucessfully. At least it does not work for me. I was told that
> some "workaround" was forthcoming, but have seen nothing yet.
>
This is half true in my experience :-) I'm able to send files to a
remote host using zmodem even if the remote host doesn't support an 8-bit
path, but receiving files fails :-(
One workaround is to use the "term" utilities that are available with
TipTop. However, this requires that term be running on the remote host.
If this is the case (or can be arranged - term source code is available,
so I built term on one of my remote hosts), then error-detecting, fast
file transfers via ncftp (assuming the remote host supports ftp) or via
tupload, a term utility, can do the job.
The next version of TipTop is supposed to fix this limitation, though.
> Aditionally, one is unable to obtain 80x65 windows such as those
> available under Stuart. I believe 80x53 is the current limit.
> Again, Pedja said that he would soon fix this.
>
I'm able to resize my TipTop window to full screen height which is
larger than 53 lines, so I'm not sure what limitation you're seeing.
Maybe wierd behavior results, but if I try to test it now, I'll lose my
NewsGrazer news feed and this posting (TipTop supports redirection of a
remote host's news port to the local host, so I'm reading news over a
modem line using NewsGrazer, a really nice feature).
> Bottom line: Until the above two problem are fixed, the preferred
> modem interface for me is Stuart combined with tip. Hopefully,
> TipTop will one day "top tip" but not as yet. Your milage may vary.
I migrated to TipTop from kermit which is a richer environment than tip
:-) and I haven't felt that TipTop's limitations are serious enough to
revert, but then I've been able to work around TipTop's limitations which
not everyone can do. I feel pretty confident that these problems will be
fixed because TipTop's developer has always been very responsive to me on
support issues.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer == ProcessorHog
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.165637.4556@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <2hl35p$o8a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 16:56:37 GMT
In article <2hl35p$o8a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex
Currier) writes:
>
> closing it my load dropped from +25% to under 5%. What in the world is NG
> doing with 25% of my cycles (as if I had them to spare)? It's very easy to
> just close it when I need the CPU for something else but it's rather curious
> and kind of annoying. Any ideas?
>
I've found that sometimes NewsGrazer gets into this state where it
continuously updates it's window. The constant re-drawing is what
hogs the processor. Check to see if the WindowServer has drawn
an unusually large portion of CPU time as well... that'll let you
know if it's the same drawing-bug thing that I've experienced.
I remember that I did something to initiate it before. I can't
remember now what that was now...
- db
--
But this one flack, speaking valiantly to the press in the moments after the
Hindenburg of Canadian electoral crashes, was adamant that Canadians [...]
had offered the Tories (get this) an "opportunity". An opportunity to feel
stupid and unwanted? -- Montreal Mirror on the Tories losing 156 seats
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Colours and Apps
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.171418.12305@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <2hg5ur$60v@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <1994Jan18.154958.26040@altsys.com> <2hjbet$2n4@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 17:14:18 GMT
In article <2hjbet$2n4@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) writes:
>lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes:
>
>>I'm sorry, but what you're saying isn't exactly true. We do an
>>internal conversion to CMYK, but don't use the CMYK = 1 - RGB to do
>>it.
>
>Hmmm, so how come when I select an RGB spot color, the CMY values
>are EXACTLY 1-RGB when I look at the resultung EPS/PS?
>
>OK, I get it, you probably never looked at the RGB values but believed
>the fairy-tale CMYK values NeXT was giving you. (Well, actually:
>perfectly accurate, device-dependent CMYK values for the NeXT monitor :-)
>
>So your own conversion routines (which I have heard praised for images)
>never got to see the spot color RGB values.
>
>So I guess it's not guilt by silliness but guilt by believing somebody
>else's silliness (and believing that CMYK colors are device-indepedent...)
>
>Apologies,
>
>Marcel
Marcel,
For straight RGB colors, this is true (there's really no other way to
do this interctively and easily. I do not recommend picking colors
using the RGB color wheel, because as you know there are many colors
available in the RGB color space that are not reproducible using CMYK.
I think Virtuoso uses a reasonable scheme for creating reproducible
color. Especially WRT to Pantone...
Spot colors are defined internally in Virtuoso's database and can be
described for composite out put either with RGB or CMYK values. They
print on their own plates when separated.
The CMYK colors match Illustrator's CMYK values as well as Quark
XPress's so I feel fairly comfortable. Of course I'd love it if
Virtuoso was fully PostScript II studly, but right now I'm
concentrating on getting version 2 shipped...
Thanks,
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jas@phaedra.engr.ucdavis.edu (James A. Schaaf)
Subject: Tailor ps editor
Message-ID: <CJxusx.GM5@ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: postscript editor
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 17:19:43 GMT
Has anyone had experience with Tailor from Alembic Systems? Any
comments or concerns welcome.
J.Schaaf
Mech. E.
UC Davis
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: Sendmail on NS 3.0
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 13:57:07 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <chDhE3600WBO0386QX@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2hm1es$rd@rowan.coventry.ac.uk>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.bugs: 20-Jan-94 Sendmail on NS 3.0
by Adam Bentley@rowan.coven
> IS there a version of sendmail for NeXT's (68040 Black h/w) that works?
> I have a lab of NS 3.0 machines and when I attempted to put a new
> sendmail.cf on the main gateway machine (one which functions fine on
> Suns,Decs,SGI's, Sequents, etc.), it makes an absolute nonsense of the
> rules....
>
> Where can I get a version of sendmail that works?
V8.6.4 (or later) of sendmail is available:
via anonymous FTP from FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU in /ucb/sendmail
It fixes all of the known security holes in sendmail. [Yes, there are
security holes in the version of sendmail shipped with all versions of
NEXTSTEP, at least up to 3.1 -- and I'll be seeing 3.2 soon, so I'll
check when I get it.]
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Illumination of ps(1) output anybody?
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 14:32:11 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <0hDhkva00WBOQ38Bds@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2hivti$74l@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 19-Jan-94 Illumination of
ps(1) outpu.. by Tim Bissell@???
> Does anyone know why the output of the ps(1) command puts some command
> names in parentheses? Are they all children of init(1)? I coulden't
> find any explanation in the ps man page.
Programs are free to change the argument string that they were called
with (read the man pages on execl for more details). This is done for
security reasons by certain programs (like the system daemons) so that
normal users don't get information about how the system is configured
that they should not have. Take a look at the -c option for ps. It is
conventional for programs which do this to leave an entry for ps of the
form " (inetd) ".... I believe that it is conventional for things like
login shells to begin with a "-" like "-zsh (zsh)".
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell)
Subject: jpeg viewer wanted
Message-ID: <CJy2on.C1r@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 20:09:59 GMT
Is there a jpeg vieweer available for the NeXT?
harry
harryt@world.std.com
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help: regarding drivers
Date: 20 Jan 1994 20:20:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2hmp1g$q4d@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1994Jan20.033732.13355@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
In article <1994Jan20.033732.13355@news.cs.brandeis.edu>,
t.balasubramanian <balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu > wrote:
>Hi,
> We want to do simple slow IO with a NeXTStep Intel machine, along the
>lines of "put this byte out to that IO port" and "read a byte from that IO
>port". We expected some simple functions similar to outb() and inb() from
>microsoft (DOS) c to exist, and, infact the "same" functions were found in
>"\NextDeveloper\Headers\driverkit\i386\ioPorts.h". They include the
>warning "Note: These functions work only at kernel level". Does this mean
>that we must write some complex device driver ?. If so does the generic
>version exist or any suggestions as to how to go about writing will be
>appreciated.
>
> We tested our board to which we want to write or read by booting
>the intel 486 to DOS and that works as we expected. But then we tried to
>do the same thing by booting the system to NeXTStep with the above
>mentioned ioPorts.h header file included and the application just quits
>when we try to write to the port.
>
> We would greatly appreciate any suggestions from anyone familiar
>with these as to what is it that we are missing here. If possible please
>reply to balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu.
>
I don't think you will be able to do what you wish to do without some kind
of driver. Dos is a completely unprotected computer enviornment. Programs
are free to diddle with any port, byte or register in the system. Of
course if they step on the wrong bit, the entire system comes to an
immediate and not to graceful halt (Grock CTRL-ALT-DEL?). Nextstep (as
well as OS/2, NT) are environments in which general user programs are not
allowed to touch the computers hardware directly. Normally all requests
for physical access go to the operating system, are checked to minimize the
chance they will compromise the machine and then performed by the o/s via
some driver or kernal function on behalf of the the user program. If the
request is in some way illegal or improper that user program (and hopefully
only) that program is terminated. The rest of the programs and the system
will keep on going.
Some operating systems have functions similiar to what you need to use, but
generally restrict the use of the function to a special class of users.
Its sometimes possible to get direct access to the ram memory under unix
with the correct user class or permissions, but I/O ports are not memory
mapped in the PC architecture (last time I bothered to check anyway).
A driver to implement this on the Next shouldn't be all that difficult, but
I'll let those with DriverKit experience speak to that point.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: enelson@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Eric M. Nelson)
Subject: PF1-PF4 on numeric keypad w/Terminal 3.2
Message-ID: <CJy3L9.J6B@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 20:29:33 GMT
Terminal used to be able to send PF1-PF4 for the top row of keys on the
numeric keypad, but in version 3.2 it no longer works (as indicated in the
release notes for 3.2 and 3.1). I know I can still use Alt-1 through Alt-4
on the main keyboard to send PF1-PF4, but is it possible to get the old
behavior back (i.e., using top row of numeric keypad)? -Eric
(enelson@slac.stanford.edu)
From: brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Curses library
Date: 20 Jan 1994 21:26:54 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <2hmsuu$adt@wuacn.wustl.edu>
Does anyone know how complete the curses library is under NeXTStep 3.1?
I just downloaded and compiled a text based WWWeb browser (lynx from U
of Kansas) and it doesn't do all the cool highlighting and stuff on my
screen. I suspect this is due to the curses library, although I could
be wrong.
Anyone have any clues?
brian
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Where does Mail.app keep its personal address directory?
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.205124.9821@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <CJx9Lw.Kyp@unix.portal.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 20:51:24 GMT
In article <CJx9Lw.Kyp@unix.portal.com> rvangeen@esq.com (Rob VanGeen)
writes:
> In article <1994Jan18.203421.4744@seer.demon.co.uk>
paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul
> Lynch) writes:
> > The other sections of the Mail Addresses panel come from elsewhere
(Users,
> > Groups and Login Names).
> >
>
> How does one manage the Users and Groups entries? Where are they
stored?
Login Names, I believe, come from /LocalLibrary/Images/People/passwd.
Users and groups come from /LocalLibrary/Images/People/aliases; I am not
sure exactly how they map between the two different sections of the panel.
Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Re: Curses library
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.221320.1727@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
References: <2hmsuu$adt@wuacn.wustl.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 94 22:13:20 GMT
Brianosaurus (brian@arl.wustl.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know how complete the curses library is under NeXTStep 3.1?
: I just downloaded and compiled a text based WWWeb browser (lynx from U
: of Kansas) and it doesn't do all the cool highlighting and stuff on my
: screen. I suspect this is due to the curses library, although I could
: be wrong.
Hmmpf. I made the same experience. The BSD-ish curses in NEXTSTEP are
very limited. Instead I got the SysV-ish ncurses package ready-patched for
NEXTSTEP (should be on any ftp-server) and installed them.
Compiling lynx with ncurses made no problems, and it really looks better.
You finally can see the highlights in lynx ;-) The only problem is that
they highlight gets out of sync from time to time. I don't know if this
is a bug in ncurses, in lynx or just my fault.
To patch lynx to compile for NEXTSTEP with ncurses, do the following:
1.) In the Makefile find the 'next:' section and
- in the 'make lib' line add -DFANCY_CURSES
- in the 'make all' line add -DFANCY_CURSES and
add -lncurses in front of -lcurses
2.) In src/defs.h
- remove the line
#define CURSES
- add a line
#include <ncurses.h>
This works for me (lynx2-0-12 and NS 3.1).
Gregor
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: jpeg viewer wanted
Date: 20 Jan 1994 22:14:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2hmvo3$54r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CJy2on.C1r@world.std.com>
Harry D Tirrell writes
> Is there a jpeg vieweer available for the NeXT?
Yes. ImageViewer. Its on the archives.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MS Access hangs under SoftPC
Date: 20 Jan 1994 18:32:53 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2hmf85$18s@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: Access, SoftPC, Bug
Hi!
Has anyone already tried to use MS Access (1.0, 1.1) under SoftPC Windows
emulation?
Any time an evaluation is done, it hangs. No crash, but no further
action. ps reports:
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND
mow 1237 99.5 38.4 33.1M 12.3M ? R 11:07 /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC -MachLaunch 9 705
SoftPC keeps wasting CPU time till eternity (till command-r, actually :-(
and does _nothing_.
I did not expect apps to work with enhanced mode, but I thought
Access should work like Winword and Excel do.
Regards,
Markus.
--
Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und
zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
-----
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: garth@cs.swarthmore.edu (Garth Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DarkForest
Date: 20 Jan 1994 23:10:02 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Message-ID: <2hn30a$r70@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
References: <1994Jan19.125658.7334@wicket.fdn.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) writes:
> Is there a MAB version of DarkForest ?
NeXT will not permit this.
Garth
From: gorlick@aero.org (Michael Gorlick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is Python available under NextStep?
Date: 20 Jan 1994 23:45:35 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Message-ID: <2hn52v$4gg@news.aero.org>
Has anyone ported Python (an interpreted object-oriented rapid prototyping
language) to the Next and if so is the port available via anonymous ftp?
Thanks.
From: me@helser18.res.iastate.edu (My Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there a NeXTSTEP version of MATLAB?
Date: 20 Jan 1994 23:54:31 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hn5jn$bd2@news.iastate.edu>
Subject says it all. I have a cube and would like to run MATLAB on it.
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* --------------------------------------------------------- *
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From: bjanzen@lexmark.com
Subject: Questor and Mesa API opinions please
Sender: usenet@lexmark.com
Message-ID: <16F4411D8C.BJANZEN@lexmark.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 01:18:20 GMT
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
I'd like opinions from those who know a little about Questor's API and Mesa's
MOLI. Thanks.
Barry Janzen
bjanzen@lexmark.com
NeXTMail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: NeXT BBS Software
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA
Date: 20 Jan 94 16:17:18 PST
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.161718.8298@crash>
References: <2hi6fc$587@inxs.concert.net>
David B Briggman -- Personal Account (briggman@rock.concert.net) wrote:
: There is a company down in Florida, called Coconet I believe, who was
: developing a NEXT GUI BBS that would allow NeXTs (with the proper software
: installed on the remote machines) and PCs (under the same conditions)
: to dial up to a BBS server. I will post their EMAIL address if I can find it.
:
:
: Dave
: --
: Advanced Business Systems A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller
: (919) 682-8553 [Voice] 19 Joci Court
: (919) 682-1126 [Fax] Durham, North Carolina 27704
: ****EFFECTIVE 10 JANUARY 1994, PLEASE SEND EMAIL TO: info@absystems.com****
Coconut Computing, Inc., and we're located in La Jolla, California, thank you.
We have not released a NEXTSTEP version of our COCONET(R) product; it was
shelved back in 93 when NeXT gave up on hardware, and only recently is it back
in development; we plan to release it later this yr; probably 2Q94.
For more info, email info@coconut.com.
-- brian dear
coconut computing, inc.
la jolla, ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: birk@artemis (Valerie Birk)
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: LATEST UPDATE FOR OBJECTIVE DB TOOLKIT
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.213647.4785@logibec.com>
Sender: news@logibec.com
Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 21:36:47 GMT
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
For additional information contact:
Professional Software
501 North Avenue
Suite 4
Wakefield, MA 01880
(617) 246 2425
(617) 246 1443 fax
psi@logibec.com
ANNOUNCEMENT: LATEST UPDATE FOR OBJECTIVE DB TOOLKIT
Wakefield, MA January 4 1994, Professional Software is pleased to
announce the release of Objective DB Toolkit 2.24 MAB (Multiple
Architecture Binary). ODB Version 2.24 supports the FAT binary capability
of NEXTSTEP 3.1 and will enable developers to port their ODB Toolkit
applications to both the INTEL and Motorola platforms simply by
recompiling.
This update will be the last one for Objective DB Toolkit. Professional
Software has replaced it with ESPRESSO! Developer which was introduced to
the NeXT marketplace at NeXTWORLD Expo 93.
ESPRESSO!Developer represents a new generation of NEXTSTEP development
tools that allow any programmer, junior or senior, to build powerful
mission critical applications quickly and easily. ESPRESSO! Developer is a
third party Interface Builder object palette that provides a suite of
extensions to existing App Kit and DB Kit objects, as well as providing
new objects that increase the object-oriented development capabilities of
the environment. ESPRESSO!Developer supports Objective C methods under
Test Interface mode but also provides its own language that is very easy
to learn and can be mastered in days.
FEATURES INCLUDE:
Support of DB Kit's database independence; apps developed with ESPRESSO!
Developer will recompile on any database with a DB Kit adaptor.
Developing applications with ESPRESSO! requires no knowledge of the App
Kit; this feature allows you to train programmers while they develop
mission critical apps.
No royalties or licensing fees; applications developed with ESPRESSO!
Developer compile into independent applications that do not require
ESPRESSO! Developer to run.
TEMPLATES:
Templates for NEXTSTEP text fields:
money
date/time
character field
text field
floating point field
integer field
OBJECTS! OBJECTS! OBJECTS!:
ODModule lets you easily define the following:
qualifiers
sort order
sequencing
ODPickList is a convenient object that lets users choose from a large
number of items without cluttering the screen and slowing down the
application
ODDragView provides the icon-dragging behavior that a number of graphical
applications include (move or copy data from one location to another) but
is not explicitly supplied in Interface Builder
ODMultiView saves screen space by allowing the display of various windows
over the same window area. Used extensively throughout NEXTSTEP, ESPRESSO!
now offers an object that enables designers to create overlaid views
graphically
LANGUAGE
ESPRESSO! Developer provides a fourth generation language. It is easy to
learn, can be mastered in days. An API is available for further
customization. ESPRESSO! Developer also supports Objective C methods.
and much more...
PSI has committed itself to provide technical support for its clients with
ODB apps for at least one year. At the end of this year, if support is
still warranted, PSI will re-evaluate its position.
Objective DB Toolkit 2.24 is available to all developers with a technical
support program still valid. Those who wish to join or renew their
membership to this program may do so by contacting psi@logibec.com.
In addition to upgrades, the technical support program provides unlimited
technical support calls and a special introductory price to Professional
Software's new development tool ESPRESSO!Developer.
--------------------------------------
Professional Software, based in Wakefield, MA has been dedicated since
1989 to providing and promoting innovative development tools such as
ESPRESSO! for the NeXT marketplace.
ESPRESSO! and ESPRESSO!Developer are trademarks of Professional Software,
Inc. All other trademarks, registered trademarks are not the property of
Professional Software, and belong to their respective owners.
From: kuocy@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is the demo version of Microphone Pro
Message-ID: <CJyJCK.K8C@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
Date: 21 Jan 94 02:09:56 GMT
Sender: news@noose.ecn.purdue.edu (USENET news)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
I am thinking about a comm. application. Would somebody point me where I can ftp a demo version of Microphone Pro.
Could someone compare "TipTop" with "Microphone Pro" for me ?
Thanks in advance,
Chun-Yen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ici@qua.crl.melco.co.jp (Toshinao Ishii)
Subject: gnuplot3.5 for NEXTSTEP
Sender: @loamer1.adm.crl.melco.co.jp
Organization: Mitsubishi Electric Corp. Hyogo, Japan
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 11:53:07 GMT
Message-ID: <ICI.94Jan20205307@ulisse.qua.crl.melco.co.jp>
Distribution: comp
The Gnuplot for NEXTSTEP Interface 1.2 is very nice. I appreciate it.
Does someone know whether Gnuplot for NEXTSTEP Interface has been upgraded for
gnuplot 3.5 ? (Or will be soon ?)
Thanks.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Toshinao Ishii
Advance LSI System Technology Department
Semiconductor Research Laboratory
Mitsubishi Electric Corporation
tel +81-6-497-7050
fax +81-6-497-7288
email ici@qua.crl.melco.co.jp
Message-ID: <fz%@byu.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 94 21:31:10 MST
From: yackd@virginia.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Distribution: world
References: <1994Jan19.125658.7334@wicket.fdn.org> <2hn30a$r70@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: DarkForest
In article <2hn30a$r70@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>, garth@cs.swarthmore.edu (Garth Snyder) writes:
>fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) writes:
>
>> Is there a MAB version of DarkForest ?
>
>NeXT will not permit this.
Why the hell not? So some company can make their own
version and sell it for $75?
If anyone tries that stunt, believe me, I'll write my
own clone of the app and release it as freeware.
So there.
Note: I'd much rather see a third party writing something
we need, like an actual word processor, than bazillions of
little utilities...
--
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Nepotism is a relative thing.
don@darth.byu.edu (My NeXT at home. Send me NeXTMail. Pleeeease.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: work manager
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.212404.14533@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: work manager
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: unlimited
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 21:24:04 GMT
I'm looking for a simple (e.g. free or cheap :-) application that will let me
manage my personal work load ... not a fancy project manager, just something
that lets me keep track of what I'm supposed to be doing, post updates as I
work on something, maybe drag in a mail file. I run Co-exist, so something
Xish would do as well.
Serge J. Goldstein
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 23:35:19 CST
From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <94020.233519U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFFany is WIRED
wow.
just got thru typing in the tired/wired list, scanned
thru WIRED a bit more, and lo and behold! a blurb on TIFFany!
TIFFany
Typical operations in image retouching programs like
Adobe Photoshop can take minutes to complete.
TIFFany II from BenchMark Development is the first
of these programs to break the graphic artist's
logjam by allowing an arbitrary number of operations
to take place in the background while the artist
continues to work.
TIFFany II sports a full complement of industry
standard image retouching features and a strong
interface at an eye-poppingly low price of US$145
for noncommercial users (otherwise it goes for
$395). It runs on 486 or NeXT computers under
the NeXTSTEP operating system.
But TIFFany does not implement the hot new
retouching technology, FITS (Functional
logjam by allowing an arbitrary number of operations
to take place in the background while the artist
continues to work.
TIFFany II sports a full complement of industry
standard image retouching features and a strong
interface at an eye-poppingly low price of US$145
for noncommercial users (otherwise it goes for
$395). It runs on 486 or NeXT computers under
the NeXTSTEP operating system.
But TIFFany does not implement the hot new
retouching technology FITS (Functional
Interpolating Transformational System),
which uses equations rather than bitmaps
to represent images. FITS technology is
what makes HSC Software's Live Picture
the current state of the art (though it
lacks TIFFany's multitasking capability).
These drawbacks aside, TIFFany under
NeXTSTEP is a strong and inexpensive
contender for graphic artists who need
to work with images all day long.
-Dan Lavin
BenchMark Development:
+1 (606) 231 6599, info@bmd.com
-tom nawara
nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
ideaLABS
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer == ProcessorHog
Date: 21 Jan 1994 06:53:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2hnu4r$50s@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <1994Jan20.165637.4556@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Jan20.165637.4556@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@amber.hasc.ca
(Darcy Brockbank) writes:
> I've found that sometimes NewsGrazer gets into this state where it
> continuously updates it's window. The constant re-drawing is what
> hogs the processor. Check to see if the WindowServer has drawn
> an unusually large portion of CPU time as well... that'll let you
> know if it's the same drawing-bug thing that I've experienced.
>
> I remember that I did something to initiate it before. I can't
> remember now what that was now...
Thomas Tschannen (tschannen@phil.unibe.ch) sent me email suggesting I run NG
in "Browser" mode instead of "List" mode. Sure enough, on switching to browser
mode NG's draw on my system was decreased to a more reasonable looking level.
Switching back to list mode brought the load back up to it's previous level.
Whatever is happening, it's the result of List mode (which is a shame because
I refuse to use browser mode, even if it does cost me 25% of my system time).
--
==============================================================================
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Time is just one damn thing after another.
==============================================================================
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer == ProcessorHog
Date: 21 Jan 1994 07:04:25 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2hnupp$53i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <1994Jan20.165637.4556@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Pardon the double posting but as I've gotten mail from people who didn't seem
to have the same problem as I do I thought I'd post the details...
Here is ps output showing NG on my machine...
In browser mode:
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND
mycroft 3549 0.3 14.4 6.30M 2.30M ? S 37:42 NewsGrazer
In list mode:
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND
mycroft 3549 23.4 14.5 6.30M 2.31M ? S 37:48 NewsGrazer
Quite a difference, I'd say!
Alex
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==============================================================================
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Date: 21 Jan 1994 09:17:01 GMT
Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ho6id$ro3@mercury.dur.ac.uk>
References: <1994Jan19.224854.24071@nosc.mil>
In article <1994Jan19.224854.24071@nosc.mil> ron@nosc.mil (Ron Broersma)
writes:
> I seem to recall that some months ago someone volunteered to build a Mosaic
for
> the native NEXTSTEP environment so you wouldn't have to mess around with
> running X. Is there any progress on that? I still think that NEXTSTEP would
> make a perfect platform for such an application and it is a shame that it
> doesn't exist.
>
> --Ron
Following on from my earlier comments about being a jynx to the NeXT community,
I'll try my talent in a positive manner now.
A native NeXTSTEP Mosaic is VAPOUR. I've been compiling Mosaic since its 0.2
days on CubX -- It used to run great, but with release 1.0 it ceased supporting
16 bit, 2.0 refused to run at all, and 2.1 dies with a bus error as soon as a
inlined image is didplayed. I know it works in 8 bit mode, but running Cub'X
in 8bit mode with fvwm is NOT a good idea (takes 8-10 seconds to switch virtual
windows).
For months people have been asking about a NeXTSTEP Mosaic, and for months
people have replied "someone" is working on it. I should think that if Someone
were working on it They would offer a Beta out to the general public to get
feedback and bug notifications. I should also think that Someone would tell us
so that people like me would stop whinging that there isn't one.
Of course the real answer is that I actually open my copy of Garfinkel and
Mahoney and READ it and Write My Own, but like most of the lusers in the world,
I'm too lazy.
On a lighter note, chimera is more successful than Mosaic at running in 16bit
mode, it dies every now and then when the colourmap gets too confusing, but I
was able to go through ora.com's catalogue and ncsa's demo document (sounds
worked too) without a problem..
Scott
--
EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
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"A wasted youth is better by far than a wise and productive old age"
"In another novel, I *am* you"
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFFany is WIRED
Date: 21 Jan 1994 13:10:19 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2hok7r$r0r@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <94020.233519U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
In article <94020.233519U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> wrote:
>wow.
>just got thru typing in the tired/wired list, scanned
>thru WIRED a bit more, and lo and behold! a blurb on TIFFany!
>
>TIFFany
(much deleted)
This may be to make up for the fact that, in the
previous issue, WIRED printed a review of SJ and the
Next Best Thing which claimed that Next had ceased to
exist. No OS, no company.
R. de Lucca
Johns Hopkins
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Message-ID: <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Summary: key
Keywords: edit
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 14:00:10 GMT
Hi you all,
What bothers me already a long time is that in Edit (up to my
knowledge) it is no possible to have a DELETE key. I expected
something like <shift><backspace> to do the trick, but nop.
Maybe I'm overlooking something and if so, who can tell me
how to do it.
Bye, Willem
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. . . . . . . . .
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From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Date: 21 Jan 1994 15:29:57 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hosdl$f63@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <2ho6id$ro3@mercury.dur.ac.uk>
In article <2ho6id$ro3@mercury.dur.ac.uk> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk writes:
> A native NeXTSTEP Mosaic is VAPOUR. I've been compiling Mosaic since its 0.2
> days on CubX -- It used to run great, but with release 1.0 it ceased
supporting
> 16 bit, 2.0 refused to run at all, and 2.1 dies with a bus error as soon as a
> inlined image is didplayed. I know it works in 8 bit mode, but running Cub'X
> in 8bit mode with fvwm is NOT a good idea (takes 8-10 seconds to
> switch virtual
> windows).
I've posted binaries and compilation instructions for Mosaic 2.1 on
cs.orst.edu. I compiled in under coXist, but it is said to work under
various other X's. It runs in 16 bit mode, by the way.
> For months people have been asking about a NeXTSTEP Mosaic, and for months
> people have replied "someone" is working on it. I should think that if
> Someone
> were working on it They would offer a Beta out to the general public to get
> feedback and bug notifications. I should also think that Someone
> would tell us
> so that people like me would stop whinging that there isn't one.
The people working on upgrading WWW.app at CERN did post a message about it
to the Net a couple of months ago. My view is, leave 'em along so they
can get some work done!
By the way, lynx compiles fine on the NeXT and w3.el works very well
with emacs. You can set them up to use the native NeXT postscript, TIFF,
sounds players, etc. and they are very fast.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFFany is WIRED
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 08:22:21
Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis
Message-ID: <nemiroal.30.00085FA7@bus.orst.edu>
References: <94020.233519U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
In article <94020.233519U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 23:35:19 CST
>From: >Subject: TIFFany is WIRED
>wow.
>just got thru typing in the tired/wired list, scanned
>thru WIRED a bit more, and lo and behold! a blurb on TIFFany!
>TIFFany
>Typical operations in image retouching programs like
>Adobe Photoshop can take minutes to complete.
>TIFFany II from BenchMark Development is the first
>of these programs to break the graphic artist's
>logjam by allowing an arbitrary number of operations
>to take place in the background while the artist
>continues to work.
>TIFFany II sports a full complement of industry
>standard image retouching features and a strong
>interface at an eye-poppingly low price of US$145
>for noncommercial users (otherwise it goes for
>$395). It runs on 486 or NeXT computers under
>the NeXTSTEP operating system.
**rest of article deleted***
are you sure about that price??? $145??? isn't it $245?
when did it change to $145?
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: TeXview hangs after Upgrade to 3.2
Date: 21 Jan 1994 16:58:16 GMT
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany
Message-ID: <2hp1j8$7t@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Hi!
I upgraded an Intel from 3.1 to 3.2. NeXTTeX was installed in 3.1 and
I changed some formats and don't wanted that to be erased. So I
didn't installed NeXTTeX from the 3.2. I also use TeXMenu, if it matters.
The Problem:
Every time I try to print to a file by pressing save in the
print-panel and select a filename, TeXview starts dvips. That's
ok, but after dvips processed the dvi-file and generated a ps-file
TeXview doesn't realize this and wait's (spinning wheel) until it is
killed by me! Selecting 'Don't wait on dvips' doesn't change this
behaviour. I installed the 3.2 NeXTSTEP NeXTTeX package on an other host
in our net and copied only TeXview to my problem machine. No CHANGE!
So did anybody have the same expirience?
Any clues?
Sometimes the Console Window of TeXview stops to show the output of
dvips. Looks like this: [1] [2] [3
and nothing else (there are more sides and dvips processes them to the
very end. You get the ps-file at full)
Very seldom dvips isn't started and so doesn't produce output.
Thank you for any hints! Michael
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Date: 21 Jan 1994 17:00:31 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2hp1nf$onc@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: edit
Set "Emacs Key Bindings" to "On" and try Ctrl-D.
--
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From: wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Date: 21 Jan 1994 16:47:33 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <2hp0v6$h44@svin01.win.tue.nl>
References: <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
In article <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> Hi you all,
>
> What bothers me already a long time is that in Edit (up to my
> knowledge) it is no possible to have a DELETE key. I expected
> something like <shift><backspace> to do the trick, but nop.
> Maybe I'm overlooking something and if so, who can tell me
> how to do it.
>
> Bye, Willem
>
>
> --
> . . . . . . . . .
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Willem van Schaik
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
Choose 'Developer Mode' in Preferences. Then Emacs-style key bindings are
applicable. In particular, Control-D gives 'Delete'
__________________________________________________
Malo Hautus
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Eindhoven University of Technology
P.O. Box 513
5600 MB Eindhoven | Tel. +31 40 472628 | NeXT mail
The Netherlands | Fax. +31 40 465995 | accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bff@next.pvh.org (Brendan F. Forsyth)
Subject: File Viewer Control
Message-ID: <CJzxoz.Ewo@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 20:17:22 GMT
Is there a way to limit the type of files displayed in File Viewer?
eg. I want to just display the *.4gl files in a folder.
Brendan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
Subject: Re: Tailor ps editor
Message-ID: <PH0KBMOS@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <CJxusx.GM5@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 19:36:47 GMT
James A. Schaaf (jas@phaedra.engr.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: Has anyone had experience with Tailor from Alembic Systems? Any
: comments or concerns welcome.
My comment: the most amazing piece of software I've ever seen. It's terrific.
Meinrad
-
Meinrad Zeller
Foehrenweg 1
D-37077 Goettingen
Tel.: +49-551-300095
Email: mzeller@gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer == ProcessorHog
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2hl35p$o8a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 09:27:33 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan21.092733.1422@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I just learned that NG only uses that much CPU time in list mode, not in
browser mode. Seems to be a bug.
Anyhow, does anybody know something about the NG pro?
Gerhard.
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e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
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From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can NexTStep coexist with Windows?
Date: 21 Jan 1994 20:39:53 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2hpeip$luf@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
My friend (who is typing) is considering installing a NextStep system on his
Intel based PC.
He would like to know if NextStep can be installed on a removable disk
such as a Bernoulli diskette, so that ir coexists with Windows and DOS.
He would also like to know if applications such as word for windows 6, excel
5, mathematica for windows, and matlab for windows can be accessed via soft
pc.
Thanks out there for answers.
Sincerely,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where does Mail.app keep its personal address directory?
Date: 21 Jan 1994 22:32:22 GMT
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Message-ID: <2hpl5m$okd@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
References: <1994Jan20.205124.9821@seer.demon.co.uk>
Its in ~/.NeXT/.mailalias. You'll have to do a ls -a from a terminal
window or turn on the 'Unix Expert' option in Preferences.app to see in
from the WorkspaceManager.
If you are root, you can type:
cat ~root/.NeXT/.mailalias >> /etc/sendmail/alias
newaliases
to add your personal aliases to the systemwide aliases used by sendmail.
Then the aliases can be used by programs such as elm or the command line
'Mail' program.
--Glenn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: gnuplot3.5 for NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CK08r0.M7J@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
References: <ICI.94Jan20205307@ulisse.qua.crl.melco.co.jp>
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 00:16:11 GMT
In article <ICI.94Jan20205307@ulisse.qua.crl.melco.co.jp>,
Toshinao Ishii <ici@qua.crl.melco.co.jp> wrote:
>
>The Gnuplot for NEXTSTEP Interface 1.2 is very nice. I appreciate it.
>Does someone know whether Gnuplot for NEXTSTEP Interface has been upgraded for
>gnuplot 3.5 ? (Or will be soon ?)
>
It's in the works even as we speak :-) The new version (2.0)
will have a number of enhancements and should be fairly stable in a
few weeks. Sorry I can't give a definite date, but it shouldn't be
much longer. Version 2.0 will use the gnuplot executable already
installed on a system instead of being linked with it, so you won't
have to wait for me to update it to 3.6 (and beyond) in the future.
It's a complete rewrite -- I've been cleaning up a lot of gunk
under the hood from back when I didn't know any better, so any people
who've been hacking the source will probably have their hands full.
I'd be happy to answer any questions,
Rob
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| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
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From: lasj@dannug.dk (Lars Scheele Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dos2unix replacement?
Date: 20 Jan 1994 23:45:15 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hn52b$189@pegasus.dannug.dk>
References: <lichtner.94Jan1914918@gravenstein.cnwra.swri.edu>
In article <lichtner.94Jan1914918@gravenstein.cnwra.swri.edu> writes:
>
>
> <Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Jan-94 dos2unix
> <replacement? by Will Estes@netcom.com
> <> After unpacking a large archive of DOS files today under Intel NS 3.2,
> <> I was surprised to see that there was no DOS2UNIX program bundled
> <> in. Is there some other program that serves this need from the
> <> command line?
>
> <Yes.
>
> <"tr '\015' '\012' < file.dos > file.unix"
>
> <will do the job. You might want to alias it like:
>
> <alias dos2unix "tr '\015' '\012' < !:1 > !:1.unix"
>
> <-Chuck
>
> Or you might try adding to your .pipedict file something like this
> (see Dos2Unix and Unix2Dos below):
>
> Indent I indent -st
> Sort sort
> Time date
> Eval bc
> lower case tr A-Z a-z
> UPPER CASE tr a-z A-Z
> Dos2Unix tr '\015' '\012'
> Unix2Dos tr '\012' '\015'
> Strip HR tr '\012' '\040' | tr -s '\040' '\040'
> Remove Blanks tr -s '\040' '\040'
What about using FSF's GNU Recode-3.3 it will do all the convertion for you
including from DOS codepage XXX to Nextstep character sets e.g.:
recode ibm850:NeXTSTEP <file.dos >file.nextstep
^^^
|||
The DOS codepage number.
and add these lines to .pipedict:
DOS to NeXT recode ibm850:NeXTSTEP
NeXT to DOS recode NeXTSTEP:ibm850
Lars S. Jensen
lasj@dannug.dk NeXT mail OK
Denmark.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Subject: NeXT color printers
Message-ID: <CK0D4H.H2D@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 01:50:40 GMT
Is anyone familiar with methods of improving the output of the NeXT
Colorprinter? If the printer really is a black BJC820 it doesn't come close
to the output from other platforms. I had heard (somewhere) that there was a
driver or routine that would substantially improve the copy, particularly in
the blended colors.
Help much appreciated.
-Chip
From: langche@darkwing.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SOFTPC
Date: 21 Jan 94 19:24:26
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <lzeng.94Jan21192426@camelot>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
I have a Gateway 486 running NEXTSTEP as well as DOS/WINDOWS. I just upgraded to NS3.2, which comes with a demo version of SOFTPC. Now I have trouble understanding how SOFTPC works. When I tried to open it, I see a diaglog box called "new hard disk file". I don't quite know what value to put there, and I failed to "get in" to SOFTPC. Outside of it I couldn't access the help file nor could I find any other documentation for it. I am completely lost.
I had been eagerly waiting for SOFTPC as I have some DOS/WINDOWS programs I want to use without leaving NEXTSTEP. I heard SOFTPC would allow me to do exactly this. But I don't know how it works. I have a hard disk partition for DOS/WINDOWS, which contains all the applications and personal files. Does SOFTPC access this partition? Does it create another DOS/WINDOWS environment within the NEXTSTEP partition, into which I should copy all the appliations/files? What exactly does it do? And what s
hould I do in order to use it?
Your help is greatly appreciated. Many thanks,
Langche.
PS. It would be most convenient if you could reply by e-mail, or, if you post, send a copy of the file to my e-mail address: lzeng@darkwing.uoregon.edu
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: XV binary for Mosiac
Date: 22 Jan 1994 04:40:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hqao9$be4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2hldbr$buo@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <2hldbr$buo@news.acns.nwu.edu> mallen@nwu.edu writes:
> I am looking for a binary version of xv (the graphics utility for X
> windows) that is compatible with mono Cubes running Mouse X.
>
> A kind sole sent me his binary for Cub'X, but it doesn't seem to work.
I don't recall where I heard this but I find it's easier to just make an
executable file in /usr/local/bin named xv that contains simply the text
"open $1". This passes the graphic file on to your standard NeXT image viewer
(I use ImageViewer which can handle most common formats). Of course I'm also
using Co-Xist which doesn't take over the entire screen so I can run Mosaic
alongside of my NS stuff.
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
Time is just one damn thing after another.
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: 16 bit Postscript fonts with TeXview?
Message-ID: <1994Jan22.061100.27553@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 06:11:00 GMT
Is there any way to use a postscript font with TeXview that is encoded as a
16 bit font? The TeX book says that the TeX fonts are limited to 256
characters/font which implies 8 bits. Any way around this when using
postscript? I have in mind the chinese postscript font that was recently
posted for the NeXT. On the screen, DPS interprets each two bytes correctly
as one chinese character, but TeXview interprets each byte separately.
Cheers,
Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Re: TIFFany is WIRED
Message-ID: <1994Jan22.015809.17210@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <nemiroal.30.00085FA7@bus.orst.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 01:58:09 GMT
In article <nemiroal.30.00085FA7@bus.orst.edu> nemiroal@bus.orst.edu
writes:
> In article <94020.233519U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
writes:
> >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 23:35:19 CST
> >From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
> >Subject: TIFFany is WIRED
>
> >wow.
> >just got thru typing in the tired/wired list, scanned
> >thru WIRED a bit more, and lo and behold! a blurb on TIFFany!
>
> >TIFFany
> >Typical operations in image retouching programs like
> >Adobe Photoshop can take minutes to complete.
> >TIFFany II from BenchMark Development is the first
> >of these programs to break the graphic artist's
> >logjam by allowing an arbitrary number of operations
> >to take place in the background while the artist
> >continues to work.
> >TIFFany II sports a full complement of industry
> >standard image retouching features and a strong
> >interface at an eye-poppingly low price of US$145
> >for noncommercial users (otherwise it goes for
> >$395). It runs on 486 or NeXT computers under
> >the NeXTSTEP operating system.
> **rest of article deleted***
>
> are you sure about that price??? $145??? isn't it $245?
> when did it change to $145?
>
>
The pricing for TIFFany II is incorrectly quoted. TIFFany II will retail
for $695.00 with educational licenses for $245.00. Upgrades for users of
TIFFany I to TIFFany II will be $145.00 and $45 respectfully. The prices
quoted in the article were for TIFFany I. I have yet to see the article,
so if anyone would like to fax the article to bMD at 606-254-4864, I would
certainly appreciate it.
For additional information on TIFFany and TIFFany II availability, please
contact bMD by sending email to Info@bMD.com.
Neil Greene
---------------
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Mix Phone/Fax: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
Email: Neil@bMD.com [NeXTmail]
From: slwdz@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tailor ps editor
Message-ID: <1994Jan21.090710.8366@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 21 Jan 94 09:07:10 MDT
References: <CJxusx.GM5@ucdavis.edu>
Organization: Utah State University
> Has anyone had experience with Tailor from Alembic Systems? Any
> comments or concerns welcome.
If you are going to use it for files that will be used in Virtuoso or another
Desktop Publishing app...it works fine with black and white stuff (most of
the time). If you have color stuff, it eats the color information and the
resulting EPS or PS file will not separate correctly. I have also had
problems with it inverting the colors in black and white bitmaps generated
from a Mac. It also seems to strip out the files atend stuff, like fonts,
so when you send it to be output it doesn't include those fonts into the file.
Considering the complexity of PostScript, it does an amazing job, and for the
average user it would be fine. But if you are planning on using it in
conjunction with DTP, beware of its few caveats. I had hopes for it, but it
remains mostly unused on my system because of the unpredictable stuff it does
to colors.
We are kind of odd though, because we are actually using Nextstep almost
exclusively for DTP stuff. ;-)
I did meet with Peter Camps (Chief Executive Officer of FirstClass, the
developers of the app), and he said that getting better color support was first
on thier list of things to do (such as spot colors, etc.) But I havn't heard
anything since mid last year.
To Tailors credit though, it has read in and displayed all of the PS and EPS
files I have thrown at it, even ones that Preview pukes on. Mac apps do some
strange things. I would like to know what it's status is for enhancement
though.
Cheers,
John Zollinger
Programmer/Analyst & DTP Tech Support
Moore Business Communication Services
slwdz@cc.usu.edu
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer == ProcessorHog
Date: 22 Jan 1994 22:28:53 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hs9b5$rmo@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2hl35p$o8a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes:
> Here's something I noticed the other day... while I realize that
> CPU watcher utilities don't always give really accurate readings
> of system load I felt this was significant. I usually leave
> NewsGrazer running in the background while I do other things,
> having it update articles once an hour. The other day I put
> TimeMon on my dock and noticed I had a 25% load on my system with
> nothing at all happening (NG was not in the process of updating
> groups and nothing else of significance was happening).
This happens when you have NewsGrazer in brower mode, and if
you have the "Prefetch article titles" option on in NG's
preferences. The interesting thing is that it doesn't start
chewing up the CPU time until there's *nothing* for it to do.
So if it has all the article headers, then it starts using up
more CPU time.
The amount of CPU time it uses in this situation depends on how
many newsgroups you have listed in the browser panel. Most
people only subscribe to a few newsgroups, so they many not
see this. I try to follow about 40 newsgroups, so it's more
noticable for me.
It gets *really* noticable for me when I do the menu item
"Group/Show New Groups". I don't do that very often, so
when I do that can add about a hundred groups to my browser
listing (I just did it now, for instance, and picked up 82
groups in the browser). If I select each newsgroup (one at
a time, which I do to get NewsGrazer to remember that I've
seen it), and then wait for everything to settle down, I
can end up with NewsGrazer chewing up over 60% of the CPU.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shay@netcom.com (Christian Shay)
Subject: SoftPC question
Message-ID: <shayCK27JH.I0E@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 01:45:17 GMT
A question regarding the 30 day free trial of SoftPC:
How does SoftPC determine that the 30 days have elapsed? Is it calculated
from the install date (if so, one could just reinstall after 30 days)
I'm worried that it is calculated somehow from the date shipped. In this case
I'd be in trouble because I've held on to the CD without installing it for
longer than 30 days.
Anyone?
Christian
shay@netcom.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer == ProcessorHog
Date: 23 Jan 1994 03:00:04 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hsp7k$97d@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2hs9b5$rmo@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <2hs9b5$rmo@usenet.rpi.edu> I wrote:
> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes:
> > Here's something I noticed the other day...
> > [newsgrazer can be a CPU hog at times]
>
> This happens when you have NewsGrazer in brower mode, and if
> you have the "Prefetch article titles" option on in NG's
> preferences.
Besides misspelling "browser", that's the the word I wanted
anyway. The problem is seen when you have NG in *list* view,
not browser view...
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: how do i use wn-rtf to convert docs with pictures to rtfd or rtf
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 22 Jan 1994 20:39:54 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <2hsria$fcd@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
How can I use WriteNow to convert wn files with pictures (which were
stored insubdirectories) into rtf or rtfd files?
When I try to convert it, I get an error message saying error 108
-error during conversion.
when I run it, wn-rtf -help I get
###wn-rtf - "-help" is not an option.
# Usage - wn-rtf [-p][-q] [[filename][[-a [appendix]][-d pathname]]] [-m] < [srcfilename ] > [dstfilename]
So what are -p, -q, -a, -d, -m for?
thanks,
nick
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Version 2.9.2 of MailCall available
Date: 23 Jan 1994 04:12:58 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hstga$bv7@usenet.rpi.edu>
MailCall is a simple application that checks for incoming mail.
It puts up a window which lists the "From" and "Subject" lines
of incoming messages, and also marks which messages are NeXTmail.
You can set a beep-sound that goes off when a new message arrives.
Anyway, version 2.9.2 of this simple utility is now available.
For the moment it's only available via anonymous FTP from:
host eclipse.its.rpi.edu
directory next
file MailCall_2.9.2.tar.Z
This is just the application (no source code). Note that there's
a MailCall_2.9.tar.Z file in the same directory, that's an older
version which will go away if no one reports problems with this
version. I'll also upload it to cs.orst.edu & sonata if there
are no problems reported.
Version 2.9.2 makes Mailcall work nicer on machines that are used
by multiple people. The temp filename it creates is based on userid,
and Mailcall should now remove that file when it terminates. A few
minor parsing bugs were also fixed, and two more options were added
to the preferences panel. One causes the MailCall application to
hide itself if there is no mail waiting, and to reappear once mail
arrives. Once Mail.app (or other mail program) gets the mail, then
the MailCall window will hide again if this option is on.
The other option has mailcall check for incoming mail to userid
root. You won't see any subjects or other info on the messages
to root, you'll just see a one-line message saying that there is
mail waiting for root. On my own machine I don't log into root
very often, so by the time I did read any messages to root they
were usually a month or two old. Now I at least know to check.
This version of MailCall was compiled under NS-2.1, and should work
fine under NeXTSTEP releases 2.1 thru (at least) 3.2. Future
versions of MailCall will probably require NeXTSTEP 3.0 or higher
(and will work on NS/Intel, obviously).
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steven C. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PNI 1.6 with NSFIP
Date: 22 Jan 1994 23:36:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401230535.AA21475@rutgers.edu>
If you are running TransSys PNI 1.6 on NSFIP with a modem on com2 (BOCA 14.4
to a dynamic SLIP CISCO server) please tell me how you got it to work.
Also, inquiring minds want to know if a new version will be released on 1 Feb.
TIA for reply,
Steven C. Perkins
****************************************************************************
******************************************
Steven C. Perkins
perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
****************************************************************************
******************************************
From: "Gabriel D. Underwood" <gabe+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tcsh
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 18:20:01 -0500
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QhEPGVW00iV0E4B3cZ@andrew.cmu.edu>
I'm looking for tcsh source that's ready to run on NeXTSTEP 3.1 and 3.2,
black and white hardware. Any pointers would be appreciated.
--
Gabriel Underwood
gabe+@cmu.edu
"Handcrafted with pride in the United States by non-exploited, entrepreneur-
type craftspeople who ride their bikes a lot"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Message-ID: <1994Jan23.185908.6837@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <2ho6id$ro3@mercury.dur.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 18:59:08 GMT
> For months people have been asking about a NeXTSTEP Mosaic, and for
> months people have replied "someone" is working on it. I should think
> that if Someone were working on it They would offer a Beta out to the
> general public to get feedback and bug notifications. I should also
> think that Someone would tell us so that people like me would stop
> whinging that there isn't one.
>
Agreed. If somebody is SERIOUSLY working on a full-blown HTML viewer or
viewer/editor for NEXTSTEP, please speak up. Secrecy is not a good idea
in the NEXTSTEP software community. A commercial product is fine; I'd
gladly spend several hundred dollar per copy (and buy several copies)
tomorrow, if it was a high-quality product. The alternative is to spend
far more money to write one myself (or pay somebody to write one). I
might be willing and able to do that, but only as a last resort.
---
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC question
Date: 23 Jan 1994 19:12:31 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2hui6v$h37@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <shayCK27JH.I0E@netcom.com>
In article <shayCK27JH.I0E@netcom.com>, Christian Shay <shay@netcom.com> wrote:
>A question regarding the 30 day free trial of SoftPC:
>
>How does SoftPC determine that the 30 days have elapsed? Is it calculated
>from the install date (if so, one could just reinstall after 30 days)
>
>I'm worried that it is calculated somehow from the date shipped. In this case
>I'd be in trouble because I've held on to the CD without installing it for
>longer than 30 days.
>
>Anyone?
>
Someone!
It ran for 30 days from my installation of NS+SoftPC. I did them one
right after the other so I don't recall whether it is keyed on the NS
install or the SoftPC install. My feeling is that it measures from
the SoftPC install.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PNI 1.6 with NSFIP
Date: 23 Jan 1994 19:21:55 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2huioj$h6c@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <9401230535.AA21475@rutgers.edu>
In article <9401230535.AA21475@rutgers.edu>,
Steven C. Perkins <perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>If you are running TransSys PNI 1.6 on NSFIP with a modem on com2 (BOCA 14.4
>to a dynamic SLIP CISCO server) please tell me how you got it to work.
>
>Also, inquiring minds want to know if a new version will be released on 1 Feb.
>
>TIA for reply,
>
I have two suggestions for you.
1) Enable some of the Debugging options and send/post the resulting log
files generated. Your config and dialing scripts would be also helpful.
Make sure you suppress any embeded passwords before posting.
2) My own experience (with our cisco router) is that generally it just
works as advertised with the proper config. My biggest hassle was with the
dialing scripts (for Multitech modems). The author is not able to test them
all himself and is dependant on users for testing. If you are skilled
enough, it is not difficult to customize one for the Boca modem you have.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland)
Subject: Re: DarkForest
Message-ID: <dhowland.759354360@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1994Jan19.125658.7334@wicket.fdn.org> <2hn30a$r70@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu> <fz%@byu.edu>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 19:46:00 GMT
In article <2hn30a$r70@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>, garth@cs.swarthmore.edu (Garth Snyder) writes:
>fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) writes:
>
>> Is there a MAB version of DarkForest ?
>
>NeXT will not permit this.
Oh? I had a MAB DarkForest running on several Intel and black systems
last year, when I was still working with NEXTSTEP for pay. I got it
from a NeXT SE. I might even still have it around, although possibly
not since I don't personally own any white hardware...
Royce Howland
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
From: dgc@ccrwest.org (David G. Cantor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Common Lisp
Date: 23 Jan 1994 13:39:56 -0800
Organization: IDA Center for Communications Research
Message-ID: <2huqrc$ne2@ccrwest.ccrwest.org>
Keywords: Common Lisp, Gnu
Has anyone succeed in compiling Gnu common Lisp (clisp) on NeXT System
3.2?
This lisp is provided on the GNU cdrom and is also available by
anonymous ftp from ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.115.2],
directory /pub/lisp/clisp/ and ftp.cs.cmu.edu [128.2.206.173],
directory user/ai/lang/lisp/impl/clisp
dgc
David G. Cantor Center for Communications Research 4320 Westerra Court
San Diego, CA 92121 dgc@ccrwest.org
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC question
Date: 23 Jan 1994 22:47:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2huupc$46c@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <shayCK27JH.I0E@netcom.com> <2hui6v$h37@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Jerry Weiss (jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
: In article <shayCK27JH.I0E@netcom.com>, Christian Shay <shay@netcom.com> wrote:
: >A question regarding the 30 day free trial of SoftPC:
: >
: >How does SoftPC determine that the 30 days have elapsed? Is it calculated
: >from the install date (if so, one could just reinstall after 30 days)
: >
: >I'm worried that it is calculated somehow from the date shipped. In this case
: >I'd be in trouble because I've held on to the CD without installing it for
: >longer than 30 days.
: >
: >Anyone?
: >
: Someone!
: It ran for 30 days from my installation of NS+SoftPC. I did them one
: right after the other so I don't recall whether it is keyed on the NS
: install or the SoftPC install. My feeling is that it measures from
: the SoftPC install.
Not exactly, I think SoftPC keeps it's own way of calculating the usage.
When the clock of your computer is different than your first installation
the program will automatically terminate its trail run. And I think if
you run out of 30 day trail there is no way for you to get this program
running in demo again. But, if you have the time to reinstall the whole
3.2 over again you will get SoftPC to run for another 30 days.
From: hacker@access.digex.net (Dark Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing MSDOS files on NeXT machines
Date: 23 Jan 1994 19:25:51 -0500
Organization: Fortress Of Computation
Message-ID: <2hv4if$iub@access.digex.net>
Ok, I think I'm a tad closer to making this work. On the PC
I'm using an LPT redirection program called, uh... PRINDIR
or something like that. It has it's problems but its about
the best thing I've found for simulating a printer on PCs.
So I can capture my print jobs and they go to a file but
they're dumping in a format for HP printers. It doesn't
look like Postscript that's for sure. So now I want to
print these binary files on the NeXT printer but I'll need
a printcap entry and filter I'll bet. Need to conver that
HP stuff into postscript.
So are there any utils for converting HP to PS on the NeXT?
Or PC for that matter?
I'd much rather use the NeXT as a print server on a network
BUT... the software to do that seems to be all commercial
and all expensive.
Enjoy! Hope to hear about your experiences!
- Hacker
--
Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation
hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us
"Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
From: dekorte@ibm19.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen L. DeKorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PhoneKit Software?
Date: 24 Jan 1994 00:31:51 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
Message-ID: <2hv4tn$d0d@mailer.fsu.edu>
Anyone know of any PD or commercial software for the Hayes ISDN phone
adaptor? Are there any PD extensions to MessageCenter.app? I've made
some of my own extensions but would like to add caller ID before I
release it as a PD app.
Thanks for any info,
Steve Dekorte
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NewsIndex0.9: DigLibrarian news article description filter uploaded to cs.orst.edu
Date: 24 Jan 1994 01:30:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2hv8bp$i5i@agate.berkeley.edu>
NewsIndex0.9 has been uploaded to cs.orst.edu archive.
This is a source/binary (Moto) package of description filter daemon
for indexing NewsGrazers articles in DigitalLibrarian (DL).
The main purpose of this filter is to extract a good description of
each article based on Subject:, From:, and Date: lines to get a title
line like:
Re: DigitalLibrarian indexing service -- (Joe Poster), Sun, 23 Jan 94 ..
so you will see these lines listed when you do DL search of news articles.
Without this filter, all you see are filenames of newsarticles and a bit of
the first line, which don't tell you much.
BTW, this thing works with news articles saved by other news readers,
but it assumes that articles are saved in separate files like NewsGrazer does.
Code is a quick hack, but it should serve a purpose as a starting point
for writing other description filter daemons for DL.
This has been submitted to cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/submissions.
The compressed file includes all the sources, and binary for Motorola
hardware (compiled on 3.2).
-r--r--r-- 1 ftp 301 16005 Jan 23 20:07 NewsIndex0.9.compressed
% sum NewsIndex0.9.compressed
06340 16
No Copyright is claimed.
This program is hereby released into the public domain.
Beno t Grang [ben@fizz.fdn.org] distributed a similar daemon
free of charge, but no source code was included in the distribution.
This version has been developed from scratch by myself, and comes with
sources.
(Precompiled binary has been tested only under 3.2 Motorola. With
recompile, it should work for Releases 3.x.)
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with StarShipView
Date: 24 Jan 1994 03:58:53 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2hvh1t$mjs@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I just ftp'd the StarShipView backspace module and got a "corrupt input" error
when trying to un ".Z" it . Is there a clean version lying around somewhere?
While I'm thinking about star ships... there used to be a game called Void
(not the older NX_Void but a newer version). I don't know where it came from
and I can't find it again but I've played it. Does anyone know where I can get
a copy now?
Regards...
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
Time is just one damn thing after another.
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer == ProcessorHog
Message-ID: <1994Jan24.091403.4935@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 09:14:03 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <2hsp7k$97d@usenet.rpi.edu>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <2hsp7k$97d@usenet.rpi.edu> writes:
> In article <2hs9b5$rmo@usenet.rpi.edu> I wrote:
> > mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes:
> > > Here's something I noticed the other day...
> > > [newsgrazer can be a CPU hog at times]
> >
> > This happens when you have NewsGrazer in brower mode, and if
> > you have the "Prefetch article titles" option on in NG's
> > preferences.
>
> Besides misspelling "browser", that's the the word I wanted
> anyway. The problem is seen when you have NG in *list* view,
> not browser view...
>
> --
> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
> ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
A truely puzzling thing, I have my NewssGrazer in list view mode and
prefetch articles enabled. Right now, all articles have been prefetched and
NG is idle, but it barely uses CPU time. At other times, I too, have
noticed an incredible increase in CPU time.
-Robert
--
Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (Marco Scheurer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Date: 24 Jan 1994 10:59:58 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Message-ID: <2i09ne$i4l@disuns2.epfl.ch>
References: <1994Jan23.185908.6837@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <1994Jan23.185908.6837@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes:
> > For months people have been asking about a NeXTSTEP Mosaic, and for
> > months people have replied "someone" is working on it. I should think
> > that if Someone were working on it They would offer a Beta out to the
> > general public to get feedback and bug notifications. I should also
> > think that Someone would tell us so that people like me would stop
> > whinging that there isn't one.
> >
>
> Agreed. If somebody is SERIOUSLY working on a full-blown HTML viewer or
> viewer/editor for NEXTSTEP, please speak up. Secrecy is not a good idea
> in the NEXTSTEP software community. A commercial product is fine; I'd
> gladly spend several hundred dollar per copy (and buy several copies)
> tomorrow, if it was a high-quality product. The alternative is to spend
> far more money to write one myself (or pay somebody to write one). I
> might be willing and able to do that, but only as a last resort.
>
> ---
> Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
> Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
> gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
> (403) 492-8648
Please!
I am not going to post info about our project on this newsgroup every
week. We are working on a WWW client (browser + editor) for NEXTSTEP. Here
is, slightly edited, what I posted at the end of last year in this
newsgroup. I know everybody really need a new NEXTSTEP client right now,
but we also had prior commitments to fulfill. There is nothing secret
about what we are doing. There is nothing secret about WWW in general.
- This project is undertaken here at EPFL (Ecole Polytechnique Federale de
Lausanne - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne). We are
collaborating with the CERN in Geneva (the inventors of WWW, and
implementors of the current NEXTSTEP client)
- NCSA has nothing to do with it. NCSA has no plan to write a NEXTSTEP
version of Mosaic. That's why we are going along with that project.
- Our browser will not be called NCSA Mosaic for NEXTSTEP or anything like
that.
- We hope to include all Mosaic functionality, as well as edition
capability. It will be a real NEXTSTEP application.
- Our browser should be made available with a license similar to CERN's
WWW, or NCSA's Mosaic.
- All the persons who expressed interest or support in that project will
receive information on how things are going as soon as we get started.
We'll be back on this news group when something worth using is ready for
beta test.
- Work on this project is only beginning now. We previously only expressed
our intention to start working on a new WWW client for NS in January. We
have a meeting tomorrow with the folks at CERN to set up a timetable.
Thanks,
m
---
Marco Scheurer scheurer@lithnext.epfl.ch (NeXTMail)
Laboratoire d'Informatique Theorique
Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
IN-Ecublens
CH-1015 Lausanne (Switzerland)
(+41) 21 693-2589
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman)
Subject: How to customize Rulers?
Message-ID: <CK4tL5.JA@basil.icce.rug.nl>
Sender: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman)
Organization: Lofty Waters
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 11:36:40 GMT
[this may be a question with a simple answer, but I could not find this
anywhere in the online documentation (and I seem to have mislaid my User Manual
right now... So here goes]
How do I customize a Text Ruler? The reason I ask is that the standard Ruler
I get in Edit, Mail, etc. provides just about 10cm worth of tab stops, so that
when I hit the Tab key while the cursor is to the right of that, it causes an
unexpected (by me at least) wraparound. Very annoying. Is there a dwrite I can
set so that the Ruler provides more tab stops?
And while we're at it, is there a way to _add_ tab stops to a ruler
interactively? (I know how to move a tab stop. I tried just about every
combination of Shift- Alternate-, Control- and Command- Click and -Drag in the
hope that this would copy the tab stop somehow. To no avail ;-(
--
__/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman (tom@basil.icce.rug.nl) [NeXTMail accepted]
__/ __/_/
__/__/__/ "...to baldly go where no man has gone before."
__/ _/_/ -- star trek TNG
From: lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com (Lyle Parkyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer == ProcessorHog
Date: 23 Jan 1994 22:54:24 GMT
Organization: Rogers Communications
Distribution: NA
Message-ID: <2huv70$lue@mail.Rogers.Com>
References: <2hl35p$o8a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Another hog is leaving PrinterManager queue monitoring(printer or fax) on. This
produces network traffic at regular intervals (every 5 sec or so) which
generally slows the system down a noticeable amount.
--
Lyle D. Parkyn (416)250-4810
lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com NeXT Mail welcome
Opinions expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner)
Subject: Anyone using Canon BJC-600 on NS/fip? I guess it's the best...
Message-ID: <1994Jan24.150533.27985@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 15:05:33 GMT
Has anybody been able (or even tried?) to get the Canon bjc-600 to
work on NS/fip? It isn't on "Dot's" list of supported printers,
but I thought perhaps it might emulate a printer that is supported.
I was going to get the HP 550c, but I talked to about five
different vendors who sell both, and without exception they all said
that the Canon is clearly a superior printer... (there's very
little price difference; they are both under 1k).
Thanks,
Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Solitaire 2.0 now available
Message-ID: <1994Jan24.161905.14988@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:19:05 GMT
Version 2.0 of the free Solitaire application and solitaire game
development kit for NEXTSTEP is now available! Solitaire 2.0 has many new
features:
- much improved card graphics
- two card sizes
- selectable card backs
- dynamic loading of games (.solitaire bundles), a-la BackSpace
- full source and documentation; write your favorite solitaire game
In addition, we are happy to announce the release of the first three game
modules for Solitaire: Klondike, Pyramid, and Spider. The game modules
should be installed in either the application wrapper (Solitaire.app),
~/Library/Solitaire, or /LocalLibrary/Solitaire. Naturally, full source
code is supplied.
Template is an "empty" game module; use this as the starting point for
writing new games.
These files have been submitted to cs.orst.edu. We have asked that they
be moved to:
/pub/next/sources/games/Solitaire/
/pub/next/binaries/games/Solitaire/
Solitaire-2.0-MAB.tar.gz
Solitaire-2.0-SRC.tar.gz
Template-1.0-SRC.tar.gz
Klondike-2.0-MAB.tar.gz
Klondike-2.0-SRC.tar.gz
Pyramid-2.0-MAB.tar.gz
Pyramid-2.0-SRC.tar.gz
Spider-1.0-SRC.tar.gz
Spider-1.0-MAB.tar.gz
These are on cs.orst.edu now; expect them to arrive at
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de sometime in the next few days.
We have had a lot of fun writing these games. Expect to see many more
games soon; while you're waiting, write your own!
The free Solitaire application was an Internet collaboration between the
following people:
Gary Ritchie
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com
Blake Stone
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca
---
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
From: bouabj@jec3210-15.its.rpi.edu (Jawhar Bouabid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help!
Date: 24 Jan 1994 17:59:12 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i129g$riu@usenet.rpi.edu>
I am sending this for a friend who does not have access to Newsgroups,
please send replies directly to him. I hope I am posting it to the
right newsgroups.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear netters
I am currently doing a research about barcodes in industry. I am particularly
interested by a barcode system called Europeen Article number (EAN). This EAN
uses 13 digits. The first 2 are called flag zone and is 2 digits long. The
next 10 digits are used for article code number and the last one digit is used
as an error check digit. I need to know if possible the algorithm used to
compute the error checking digit in this EAN 13 barcode standard.
Also I would appreciate any additional info about a similar barcode called
EAN 8 and Alpha 39 and the famous UPC used in the USA.
Please Email me your answer to this address:
root@fseg2.fsegsfax.tn or turki@fseg2.fsegsfax.tn
Thanks a million
Regards,
Boubaker Turki
System Manager
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman)
Subject: Can you change the default app for any given file type?
Message-ID: <1994Jan24.180058.26018@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Keywords: app
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Engy. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 18:00:58 GMT
Hey all - i recently downloaded Emacs for NeXTStep, and i'd much
rather have text files loaded into Emacs than Edit when you
double-click on them. Can you change this somehow? I can't see a way
to change any of this in the workspace preferences.... there's only
one option for which app to open - how can you add another one?
thanx
dan -- ascii please.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (Markus Stoll)
Subject: Re: Thanks to whoever wrote CD150 player
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: <1994Jan23.142841.6584@isolde.stgt.sub.org>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Organization: GbR Stoll & Stoeffler, Stuttgart, Germany
References: <2he6ur$846@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 14:28:41 GMT
L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
> I think it's great also - i.e. CD150player.
> PLEASE compile/write an INTEL version!! I have
> the CD150 with an Intel setup.
Well,
because several people asked for an intel version, I will
make one, but not before 1st of February. So please wait
a few days.
Regards, Markus
--
Markus Stoll, markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (NeXTMail preferred)
stoll@vaxph.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille)
Subject: Re: DarkForest
Message-ID: <1994Jan24.184546.25176@ictv.com>
Sender: usenet@ictv.com
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
References: <2hn30a$r70@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 18:45:46 GMT
Garth Snyder writes
> fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) writes:
>
> > Is there a MAB version of DarkForest ?
>
> NeXT will not permit this.
>
> Garth
Well, that seems really rude of NeXT!
Robert
P.S. I'm obviously not informed about their reasoning, so they could
have a perfectly good reason. However, I'm not holding my breath.
--
Robert Thille NeXTMail
robert@ictv.com OK
660 Bair Island Rd #40 Redwood City CA 94063
From: Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing MSDOS files on NeXT machines
Date: 24 Jan 1994 19:20:12 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i171c$3il@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Keywords: printing, files, dos
Ok, I think I'm a tad closer to making this work. On the PC
I'm using an LPT redirection program called, uh... PRINDIR
or something like that. It has it's problems but its about
the best thing I've found for simulating a printer on PCs.
So I can capture my print jobs and they go to a file but
they're dumping in a format for HP printers. It doesn't
look like Postscript that's for sure. So now I want to
print these binary files on the NeXT printer but I'll need
a printcap entry and filter I'll bet. Need to conver that
HP stuff into postscript.
So are there any utils for converting HP to PS on the NeXT?
Or PC for that matter?
I'd much rather use the NeXT as a print server on a network
BUT... the software to do that seems to be all commercial
and all expensive.
Enjoy! Hope to hear about your experiences!
- Hacker
--
Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation
hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us
"Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
____________________________________________________________________________
If you can get the document to come up in WriteNow or Edit app, you can simply tell those apps to print the document, and instead of clicking print (or return) try saving the document from the print window. It should save the document to the PostScript format. From there you can retrieve the document and then print it as PostScript.
--
Copyright 1994 Charles M. Dudley Charles.Dudley@umich.edu
NEXTSTEP User 313.308.3792
P. O. Box 130231 Ann Arbor, MI 48113
NeXTmail to: warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
"The One True President of the Michigan NeXTSTEP Users Group.". the software to do that seems to be all commercial
and all expensive.
Enjoy! Hope to hear about your experiences!
- Hacker
--
Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation
hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us
"Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
____________________________________________________________________________
If you can get the document to come up in WriteNow or Edit app, you can simply tell those apps to print the document, and instead of clicking print (or return) try saving the document
From: me@serss0.fiu.edu (me)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: jpeg viewer wanted
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:30:21
Organization: None
Message-ID: <me.18.000E81ED@serss0.fiu.edu>
References: <CJy2on.C1r@world.std.com> <2hmvo3$54r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2hmvo3$54r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes:
>From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)>Subject: Re: jpeg viewer wanted
>Date: 20 Jan 1994 22:14:27 GMT
>Harry D Tirrell writes
>> Is there a jpeg vieweer available for the NeXT?
>Yes. ImageViewer. Its on the archives.
What exactly do you mean, "It's on the archives"?
Can you give the exact file name so I can look it up using ARCHIE
or better, can you give the exact ftp site name.
Also, is there a news group where these kinds of programs
are posted regularly?
bill
calbeckw@solix.fiu.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 24 Jan 1994 15:32:36 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2i1b94$ba7@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: me@serss0.fiu.edu (me)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: where can I get ImageViewer?
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 15:51:19
Organization: None
Message-ID: <me.19.000FDB6D@serss0.fiu.edu>
An exact file name *.zip so I can ARCHIE it or
an exact ftp site would be helpful.
Also, are there any news groups where this kind of program
is posted?
bill
calbeckw@solix.fiu.edu
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: jpeg viewer wanted
Date: 24 Jan 1994 20:58:09 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2i1cp1$k72@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <me.18.000E81ED@serss0.fiu.edu>
In article <me.18.000E81ED@serss0.fiu.edu> me@serss0.fiu.edu (me) writes:
> >Yes. ImageViewer. Its on the archives.
>
> What exactly do you mean, "It's on the archives"?
> Can you give the exact file name so I can look it up using ARCHIE
> or better, can you give the exact ftp site name.
> Also, is there a news group where these kinds of programs
> are posted regularly?
"On the archives" is vague-speak for "you can ftp it from any of the main
sites that carry NeXTStep software, cs.orst.edu in /pub/next for example".
The filename is probably either ImageViewer.app.tar.Z or ImageViewer.tar.Z or
ImageViewer.tar.gz or some such. As a matter of fact... it can be found at:
cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/binaries/graphics/ImageViewer-0.9i.tar.Z
There are currently no binaries groups for NeXTStep software. Given that the
average NS package can go from 50K to 3MB and beyond I doubt there will be a
binary group for NS software, at least not one that can compare with ftp in
efficiency.
Regards,
Alex
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X?
==============================================================================
From: bora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where can I get ImageViewer?
Date: 24 Jan 1994 21:05:12 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i1d69$41u@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
References: <me.19.000FDB6D@serss0.fiu.edu>
If you were to do an archie search on image you would come
up with ImageViewer.app which you could then retrieve from
cs.orst.edu or sonata.cc.purdue.edu
enjoy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka)
Subject: Re: SOFTPC
Message-ID: <CK5J1y.3Kq@ceco.ceco.com>
Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator)
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co.
References: <lzeng.94Jan21192426@camelot>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 20:46:44 GMT
In article 94Jan21192426@camelot, langche@darkwing.uoregon.edu writes:
> I have a Gateway 486 running NEXTSTEP as well as DOS/WINDOWS. I just upgraded to NS3.2, which comes with a demo version of SOFTPC. Now I have trouble understanding how SOFTPC works. When I tried to open it, I see a diaglog box called "new hard disk file". I don't quite know what value to put there, and I failed to "get in" to SOFTPC. Outside of it I couldn't access the help file nor could I find any other documentation for it. I am completely lost.
>
I actually got SoftPC to work at 800x600*32bit (Gateway 66V w/ Pegasus video card),
and when I changed to use the #9GXE driver (from the default S3 driver) in order
to get to 1024x768*16bit, I had the same thing happen. I get to pick the drive,
and it promptly exits after that. Why would the video driver screw it up??? The
speed also didn't seem that great under 32-bit mode. I'm just waiting to see
how it works when the correct driver is available. (Where IS it???? STB Pegasus...)
Mike Stepniczka
mikes@ceco.ceco.com
> I had been eagerly waiting for SOFTPC as I have some DOS/WINDOWS programs I want to use without leaving NEXTSTEP. I heard SOFTPC would allow me to do exactly this. But I don't know how it works. I have a hard disk partition for DOS/WINDOWS, which contains all the applications and personal files. Does SOFTPC access this partition? Does it create another DOS/WINDOWS environment within the NEXTSTEP partition, into which I should copy all the appliations/files? What exactly does it do? And what s
> hould I do in order to use it?
>
> Your help is greatly appreciated. Many thanks,
>
> Langche.
>
> PS. It would be most convenient if you could reply by e-mail, or, if you post, send a copy of the file to my e-mail address: lzeng@darkwing.uoregon.edu
>
>
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: netrek
Date: 24 Jan 1994 21:50:45 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2i1frl$hs1@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Does anyone out there know of a compiled netrek (m68k) that runs under
Mouse-X? I think there used to be one (from a Mike Neuman), but that
account and ftp site do not appear to exist anymore. Thanks.
mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fxdlk@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (A Figment of your Imagination)
Subject: Does WWarchive ftp software work under 3.1?
Message-ID: <1994Jan24.225246.11766@raven.alaska.edu>
Sender: news@raven.alaska.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 22:52:46 GMT
Has anyone here gotten FTP server (Version wu-2.1c(2)
to work on next system release 3.1 ? I had it working on
3.0 then we upgraded our system and now I keep getting
User access denied. messages for all user id's including
anonymous when I try to login through ftp. Everything
seems to be set up correctally, I even recompiled the
code under the new system.
Please mail me if you have it working under that system
so I can figure out if its a system problem or some error
on my part Thanks.
Please send all replies directaly to Email, Thanks.
Bitnet: Fsdlk@alaska.bitnet
Internet: Fsdlk@acad3.alaska.edu
NeXT Mail: fxdlk@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: jpeg viewer wanted
Date: 24 Jan 1994 23:29:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2i1llk$j0m@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <me.18.000E81ED@serss0.fiu.edu>
me writes
> Stefano Pagiola writes:
> >> Is there a jpeg vieweer available for the NeXT?
>
> >Yes. ImageViewer. Its on the archives.
>
> What exactly do you mean, "It's on the archives"?
> Can you give the exact file name so I can look it up using ARCHIE
> or better, can you give the exact ftp site name.
> Also, is there a news group where these kinds of programs
> are posted regularly?
Not to flame you particularly, but this post appeared on my system at
the same time as the regularly-posted FAQ: "Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP
information on the Internet". Some people go to a lot of trouble to
put those FAQs together precisely so that others don't have to wonder
about such basic things. So use them.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam)
Subject: Problems with Emacs.app 3.01
Message-ID: <1994Jan24.234026.5908@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 23:40:26 GMT
Hi again-
i recently downloaded Emacs.app 3.01, and installed it.
Unfortunatly, whenever i launch it, it says
Unkown host "playdough"
and starts a *scratch* buffer (even if i launch it by double-clicking
on another file after using dwrite to make it default). My machine's named
playdough, btw. What do i have to change?
thanks
dan -- ascii please!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: *** HSD SPELL FOR NeXT COMPUTERS-- ONLY $19.95 ***
Message-ID: <CK5Jy5.6Br@beach.com>
Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 21:06:05 GMT
*** HSD SPELL FOR NeXT "BLACK" HARDWARE--ONLY $19.95 ***
HSD currently has excess inventory of HSD SPELL for NeXT "black"
hardware, running NS 3.0 or higher. As our fiscal year comes to an
end, we are offering these copies of HSD SPELL, while supplies last,
at the discount price of $19.95 per copy, plus shipping and handling.
*** INCLUDES ENGLISH (U.K. & U.S.) AND ONE OTHER LANGUAGE ***
HSD Spell is the international spelling software for NEXTSTEP that
automatically integrates multiple language spelling capabilities into
your existing applications. HSD spell can also be used as a
stand-alone application or accessed as a "Service" from other
applications.
HSD Spell supports 11 international languages including Danish,
Dutch, English (U.S. and U.K), Finnish, French, German, Italian,
Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish and Swedish.
(Press release with additional info at end of message.)
*** WHY ONLY $19.95? ***
Previously, HSD SPELL was shipped on two extended density (2.8MB
each) disks, which can only be used in a NeXT computer. Rather than
opening the packages and duplicating new disks which can be used on
Intel based computers as well, we've decided to offer them as they
are for use on "black" hardware and pass the savings on to you. This
is a one-time opportunity to purchase the leading spell checker for
NEXTSTEP at an incredibly low price.
*** NEXTSTEP INTEL USERS CAN SAVE TOO--$49 UPGRADE ***
The retail price for the Intel version of HSD SPELL is $149, but
registered owners of HSD SPELL for "black" hardware can purchase the
upgrade for only $49. Total cost for the Intel version during this
offer is $68.95, a savings of over 50%!
Orders will be filled on a first-come, first-served basis, while
supplies last. To order, complete the information below and mail or
fax your order to HSD at:
Email: sales@hsd.com
Fax: (408) 774-1402
Shipping and Billing Information:
Company Name: ____________________________________
Contact Name: ____________________________________
Address: _________________________________________
Address: _________________________________________
City: ____________________________________________
State: ___________________________________________
Postal Code: _____________________________________
Country: _________________________________________
Phone: ___________________________________________
Fax: _____________________________________________
Email: ___________________________________________
Product and Quantity:
HSD SPELL FOR BLACK HARDWARE ______ @ $19.95
HSD SPELL FOR INTEL ______ @ $68.95
Shipping--$4.95 per copy.
Method of Payment:
Credit Card: (Visa, MasterCard or Amex)
Card Number: _____________________________________
Name on Card: ____________________________________
Expiration Date: ________________________________
COD Company Check or Cashiers Check ______________
------------------- HSD SPELL PRODUCT INFO ----------------------
SUNNYVALE, January 24, 1993 HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. today
announced a special promotional price of $19.95 for HSD Spell, its
international spell checker for NEXTSTEP that supports 11
languages.The version being offered at the promotional price can be
used on NeXT computers running NEXTSTEP 3.0 or higher. NEXTSTEP Intel
user can purchase an upgrade for $49.
HSD SPELL has a suggested retail price is $149, which includes two
language dictionaries--English (U.K. and U.S.) and one other.
Additional languages can be purchased for $99 each. Languages
currently supported include Danish, Dutch, English (U.K. and U.S.),
Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish and
Swedish.
The version of HSD Spell being offered at the promotional price is
shipped on two extended density disks which contain the HSD Spell
application and all 11 language dictionaries. The HSD Spell
application menu contains a choice for installing additional
languages, which can be unlocked after purchasing an activation code
from HSD.
HSD President David Peter noted that HSD Spell is tightly integrated
into the NeXTSTEP 3.0 (or higher) operating system so that users can
check spelling directly from the spelling panel built into most
NEXTSTEP applications. Many applications utilize the speller built
into NeXTSTEP 3.0 or higher. HSD Spell automatically incorporates
installed languages into this panel so they can be accessed
directly, Peter said. In applications that do not support the
NeXTSTEP speller, text can be imported via the Services menu into
the HSD Spell application to check spelling or perform a variety of
common text editing functions.
HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. was founded in 1989 and has offices in
Sunnyvale and San Diego. Today HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc is a
leading supplier of hardware and software products for Macintosh and
NEXTSTEP. HSD's main office is located at 1095 East Duane Ave., Suite
209, Sunnyvale, CA 94086. Phone (408) 774-1400, Fax (408) 774-1402,
Email: sales@hsd.com.
--
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: slfields@metronet.com (Scott Fields)
Subject: ResDump 1.1
Organization: Texas Metronet, Internet for the Individual 214-705-2917 (info)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 03:40:16 GMT
Message-ID: <CK6275.DLr@metronet.com>
Distribution: usa
Well, I finally got around to making a MAB version of ResDump. I haven't
added anything, and I actually disabled the Icon and Signature boxes
on the main display until I can verify that the Intel part is stable.
It is on cs.orst.edu in the submissions directory.
If there are any problems, let me know and I will try to get a stable
version out.
For those who haven't heard of this program, it lets you read/browse the
contents of the resource fork of a macintosh format file. It also lets
you extract sections into a normal Next file. Some resource sections, like
snd and ICON have the ability to be converted to Next sounds and TIFF's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: padua@cimnext2.eas.asu.edu (Bobby Padua)
Subject: Fax Driver for Hayes compatible modem
Message-ID: <CK5xLy.EMv@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 02:01:09 GMT
Can someone send me info to run my Hayes compatible Fax modem (Smart Modem
2400/9600bps) on a NeXT Black Hardware. I can get it to run in modem mode...but
I need to run it as a fax modem.
I have a Mac cable for Hayes it seems to work fine on modem mode.
What are the necessary steps to make it run without using any other commercial
software. Let me know.
Thank you...Have a productive day!
Bob Padua
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.gnuplot
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Multi-column data in Gnuplot for NeXTSTEP (workaround)
Message-ID: <CK6ED3.L4n@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 08:03:02 GMT
Lately I've been getting lots mail from people asking how to
use the NeXTSTEP interface for Gnuplot (version 1.2, gnuplot version
3.4) to plot data files with multiple columns, something that gnuplot
itself can do.
The problem is that the NeXTSTEP interface is slightly broken
in this area -- broken enough to prevent use of some commonly used
gnuplot features. Specifically, it assumes that if the file has more
than one column, then you will want to use one of them to specify data
for the x-axis. Sometimes, however, it's useful to just specify a
column to use as the y value and let gnuplot number the x values
consecutively 1, 2, 3, etc, but the interface won't let you do that
because it rejects values of zero in the column fields of the Data
File Options Panel.
Well, here's the workaround. You can override all of the
settings in the Data File Options panel by specifying the title,
style, etc. in the Function field of the Data Inspector. The trick is
this:
o Select the data file by pressing the File... button in the
Data Inspector and selecting a file in the Open Panel, or
by typing a pathname into the Function field and pressing
the Add button, whichever you like. The Function field
will then contain the path of the data file, and it will be
selected in the list of functions.
o Next, override the stuff set in the Options Panel with
these steps :
- move the cursor to the end of the pathname in the
Function field
- type a single quote immediately after the pathname
(no spaces between the pathname and the quote)
- type a space after the single quote
- type the gnuplot commands for the function options,
such as "using 0:2" (Here, refer to the original
gnuplot documentation for the "plot" command.)
- type the pound sign, #, after the entire thing
o Then press "Modify" to change the selected data file.
Some valid strings, as examples:
/tmp/err.dat' using 0:2#
which plots "/tmp/err.dat" by using the second column as
points along the y-axis and no column for the x-axis (that is,
by assigning each y value to the numbers 1, 2, 3, etc.)
/tmp/err.dat' using 3:1 title "January" with lines 2#
which plots "/tmp/err.dat" by using column 3 for the x value
and column 1 as the y value, using the title "January" in the
legend, and using line style 3.
Some caveats:
o This is an all-or-nothing thing -- if you override the
style of a data file, the settings for the title and the
column selections in the Options Panel become invalid, too,
and will need to be specified in your string.
o This is definitely a hack and exploits an accidental
feature of the Gnuplot interface -- don't necessarily
expect it to be in the forthcoming 2.0. (The
column-selecting interface should be improved.)
o You must follow the two-step process described above (add
the data file normally, *then* put in the extra stuff and
Modify).
o If an error panel pops up and says something as helpful as
"Encountered an error" (sheesh, I am sorry about that one),
check the Console (Command-C from the Workspace) to see
which part of your string gnuplot is choking on.
o Saving the document will work, but opening a document that
uses these broken features will produce unexpected results
that can only be fixed by retyping the special strings
every time the document is opened.
Good luck,
Rob
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| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
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From: develfip@arcturus.ciril.fr (Gilles Molinari,FIP NANCY,,)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TopDraw 2
Date: 25 Jan 1994 13:38:01 +0100
Organization: CIRIL - NANCY - FRANCE
Message-ID: <2i33r9$m30@arcturus.ciril.fr>
Hello,
Do anyone have information on topdraw 2? It's as bugged as version one,
which file format does he support, etc...
Thanks for all infos,
Gilles
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Re: Is there a NeXTSTEP version of MATLAB?
Message-ID: <CK1AMu.A18@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
References: <2hn5jn$bd2@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 13:54:29 GMT
I think no, but you can try the freeware rLab
Ian Searle
ians@eskimo.com
I am not using rLab.
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
From: farsh@radius.ortho.sunysb.edu (Farsh Guilak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Plotting and Statistics
Date: 25 Jan 1994 16:35:15 GMT
Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics
Message-ID: <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu>
Does anybody know of a really good, presentation-quality software package
for scientific graphing and plotting? I am looking for something akin to
Kaleidegraph or Cricket graph for the NeXT. One thing I am having a lot
of trouble finding is the ability to put error bars on data points and bar
graphs.
Thanks...
Farsh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: daughert@dendrite.cs.Colorado.EDU (Brian Daugherty)
Subject: Sound file compatability
Message-ID: <CK75HI.J5z@Colorado.EDU>
Followup-To: daughert@broca.cs.colorado.edu
Sender: news@Colorado.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Universtiy of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 17:48:51 GMT
I am trying to play mac soundfiles on the next.
Are there any programs on ftp sites that will
convert the mac files to a next compatable file?
Or is there an easier way to be able to convert
soundfiles that is also free?
Thanks,
Brian daughert@broca.cs.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung)
Subject: Where to find a couple of things
Message-ID: <1994Jan25.180303.18433@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 18:03:03 GMT
Hi All
Does anyone know if there is a French Spell Checker for WordPerfect? I would ask WordPerfect
themselves, but all I get is their extremely polite "hold jockey"
Also, who are the guys that are selling AppleShare for the NeXT? I have looked in the Third-Party Products guide, The FAQ, and NeXTAnswers, but no dice.
--
Kenny Leung
University of Alberta
kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca
Ph: 403-492-9343
Fax: 403-492-1729
|------------------------------------------------|\
r extremely polite "hold jockey"
Also, who are the guys that are selling AppleShare for the NeXT? I have looked in the Third-Party Products guide, The FAQ, and NeXTAnswers, but no dice.
--
Kenny Leung
University of Alberta
kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca
Ph: 403-492-9343
Fax: 403-492-1729
|------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Can you change the default app for any given file type?
In-Reply-To: fineman@cs.washington.edu's message of Mon, 24 Jan 94 18:00:58 GMT
To: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jan25124923@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Jan24.180058.26018@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 17:49:23 GMT
In article <1994Jan24.180058.26018@beaver.cs.washington.edu> fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman) writes:
Hey all - i recently downloaded Emacs for NeXTStep, and i'd much
rather have text files loaded into Emacs than Edit when you
double-click on them. Can you change this somehow? I can't see a way
to change any of this in the workspace preferences.... there's only
one option for which app to open - how can you add another one?
Try:
dwrite Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs
This works just fine here with Emacs 19 for NS. At least under recent
releases of NS, .rtf files and .rtfd packages will still be opened in
Edit (which is what you want until someone writes rtf-mode.el).
Carl Edman
From: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Plotting and Statistics
Date: 25 Jan 1994 19:37:37 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
Message-ID: <2i3se1$fv9@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
References: <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu>
In article <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu> farsh@radius.ortho.sunysb.edu (Farsh Guilak) writes:
>Does anybody know of a really good, presentation-quality software package
>for scientific graphing and plotting? I am looking for something akin to
>Kaleidegraph or Cricket graph for the NeXT. One thing I am having a lot
>of trouble finding is the ability to put error bars on data points and bar
>graphs.
>
>Thanks...
>Farsh
We're looking for exactly the same thing. A good candidate appears to
be GraphRight. Their current version does funky things with error
bars (it tries to calculate them by some totally unknown method), but
we've been told a very-soon-to-be released update will handle them much
more elegantly and allow them to be put in as one column of data. Our
contact there is:
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
(508)-481-3955 Fax
For plain X-Y plots with error bars, we like nxyplot; it can be gotten
from cs.orst.edu as pub/next/sources/plotting/nxyplot1.87.tar.Z
--
Rick Gray, Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713) 798-3346 | Fax: (713) 799-8544
Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu | NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Message-ID: <1994Jan24.134327.1123@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 13:43:27 GMT
In article <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> Hi you all,
>
> What bothers me already a long time is that in Edit (up to my
> knowledge) it is no possible to have a DELETE key. I expected
> something like <shift><backspace> to do the trick, but nop.
> Maybe I'm overlooking something and if so, who can tell me
> how to do it.
emacs-mode and control-d.
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------------------------------------------------------------------
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Brooks's Law:
Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: BackSpace Toasters with 3.2 ?
Message-ID: <1994Jan25.182818.16977@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 18:28:18 GMT
Has anyone tried to bring back the famous AfterDark'ish Toasters module
to BackSpace with 3.2 ? Those upspreading fishes may be quite funny, but
they aren't the real :-)
Gregor
| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT |
| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Plotting and Statistics
Date: 25 Jan 1994 21:25:00 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <2i42nc$67i@genesis.ait.psu.edu>
References: <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu>
In article <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu> farsh@radius.ortho.sunysb.edu
(Farsh Guilak) writes:
> Does anybody know of a really good, presentation-quality software package
> for scientific graphing and plotting? I am looking for something akin to
> Kaleidegraph or Cricket graph for the NeXT. One thing I am having a lot
> of trouble finding is the ability to put error bars on data points and bar
> graphs.
>
> Thanks...
> Farsh
You might want to check out GraphBuilder from VVI, Inc. I've seen it run and it
is a pretty impressive piece of software--oodles of flexibility and control and
lots of features.
They had an ad in the back of the latest NeXTWORLD. I'm not sure about the
price, but I think it was pretty inexpensive.
Mark.
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Applied Research Lab/Penn State
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State College, PA 16804
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WetPaint vs TIFFany
Date: 25 Jan 1994 13:36 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25JAN199413363197@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
I'd like to see a knowledgeable comparison of WetPaint and TIFFany. What are
each's highpoints? Lowpoints? What can be done with one but not the other?
Which has the greatest utility - on the low end (pixel drawing/painting) -
on the high end (photo/image retouching).
Where can either be purchased? At what cost?
Thanks.
Don McCollam
citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gkj@jacobs.esd.ornl.gov (Gary K. Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Plotting and Statistics
Message-ID: <1994Jan25.214333.26000@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
References: <2i3se1$fv9@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 21:43:33 GMT
In article <2i3se1$fv9@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick
Gray) writes:
> In article <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu> farsh@radius.ortho.sunysb.edu
(Farsh Guilak) writes:
> >Does anybody know of a really good, presentation-quality software package
> >for scientific graphing and plotting? I am looking for something akin to
> >Kaleidegraph or Cricket graph for the NeXT. One thing I am having a lot
> >of trouble finding is the ability to put error bars on data points and bar
> >graphs.
> >
> >Thanks...
> >Farsh
>
Take a look at SciPlot. I think it is on the archives. I am a satisfied user.
For details about SciPLot, contact:
Michael Wesemann
Schillerstr. 73, 10627 Berlin, Germany
mike@fiasko.rz-berlin.mpg.de (NeXTMail preferred)
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: NXHost - Postscript Runs Where?
In-Reply-To: steve@ma.neavs.com's message of 19 Jan 1994 09:38:42 -0600
Message-ID: <BYER.94Jan25141254@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <9401191458.AA03290@ma.neavs.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 22:12:54 GMT
In article <9401191458.AA03290@ma.neavs.com> steve@ma.neavs.com (Steven W. Schuldt) writes:
> Does anyone know where the postscript code is handled when running
> an app on a remote host? Am I correct in believing that the local
> window server executes it? Only wondering because I'm absorbed
> in delusions of having an appless Gecko hooked up to my app-filled
> NeXTstation Turbo and running graphics apps with (somewhat)
> accelerated performance. :)
As in the X world, 'server' is the place where the application is
displaying, and 'client' is the machine which is actually running
the application. Display PostScript is part of the window server,
so the PostScript code an application sends to do it's drawing is
executed on the machine the application is displaying on.
That is, if you run an application on a Gecko, displaying on an
NSI, the NSI is executing the PostScript.
Note that if you follow all the recommendations for making the
drawing part of your application faster (all calculations on the
client side, box carring of operations, reductions of round trips
to server, etc.), then the best situation is to have the fast machine
execute the applications, and have it display on the slower machine.
("rsh fastmachine open -a NeXTApp -NXHost slowmachine")
--
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1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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From: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly)
Subject: SysV curses for NeXT...
Message-ID: <1994Jan25.204953.14602@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 20:49:53 GMT
A while ago, someone mentioned that they'd done a NeXT port of
SysV curses.
Where is this archived?
Thanks.
Michael
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From: s771966@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (David Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Desktop Extenders - What are worthwhile?
Date: 25 Jan 94 21:48:17 GMT
Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Australia.
Message-ID: <s771966.759534497@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU>
Summary: Query about the value of various destop extenders
Keywords: desktop extenders query
I have seen many references and ads about desktop extender apps
(MetroTools, LaunchPad, etc.). I have a fairly simple question:
What, if any, practical value are these packages and what would be
your recommendation for the best overall one to get?
(OK, so it's not so simple a question after all 8-).
I am a new NSFIP user (although an experienced UNIX/Sun/DOS
user/administrator for many years) and would like some end-user
opinions on these apps and their overall usefulness.
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From: ror@netcom.com (Thomas P. Copley)
Subject: PNI 1.6 & E-mail
Message-ID: <rorCK7J3K.A3o@netcom.com>
Summary: How do you do E-mail through with PNI (SLIP)?
Keywords: PNI, SLIP, E-mail
Organization: Arlington Courseworks
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 22:42:55 GMT
I finally got PNI SLIP to work for Intel. The first time I installed it,
it crashed my system so bad that I had to re-install NEXTSTEP from
scratch. I don't know why...probably because I had some of the networking
stuff setup wrong. After the re-install, it took me about six hours to
edit up the dialing script and login script, but it finally works! In
fact, it works great! I can telnet, ftp, and etc., beautifully.
My question is, how do I get it to work with E-mail? I mean so that I can
send and receive mail? After the re-install, I have not yet changed the
host name from "localhost" because I've been too scared to... What kind of
network stuff do I have to setup? I really don't want to screw up my SLIP
setup, but I really want to be able to send and receive E-mail from my
NeXT machine...
How do I configure my host? Do I just plug in the IP number and domain
name that my SLIP provider gave me?
Can I set it up so that my machine polls for mail?
Can I set it up so that my machine does a mail transfer whenever it logs
in to the SLIP server?
I'm clueless on this, and I can't seem to find any documentation.
Any suggestions, comments, pointers in the right direction, etc., would be
greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Zach
--
---------------------------------------------
Zach Copley (ror@netcom)
From: Matt_Watson@next.com (Matt Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: File Viewer Control
Date: 25 Jan 1994 19:05:50 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2i3qie$9g@rosie.next.com>
References: <CJzxoz.Ewo@csn.org>
In article <CJzxoz.Ewo@csn.org> (Brendan F. Forsyth) writes:
> Is there a way to limit the type of files displayed in File Viewer?
>
> eg. I want to just display the *.4gl files in a folder.
>
> Brendan
You can sort the files by type -- open the inspector window with the
directory selected. (Then you can resize the window so you *just* see your
4gl files :-). Don't know if this works on non-Unix filesystems...
matt.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke)
Subject: Using ISO9660 CDROM on NeXT, Exporting thru NFS
Message-ID: <1994Jan25.174827.27525@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 17:48:27 GMT
Ok, this problem has gone on for quite some time. I have found that while
I can mount and read locally an ISO9660 formatted CD-ROM (an MSDOS CD),
when I export it, it fails to export properly. Is there any way that I
can fool the system by setting up a link or something that will allow it
to read locally and export as if it were a hard drive or just another
directory, instead of a CD-ROM? I really would like to be able to access
this CD-ROM from my PC, which does not have a CD-ROM drive on it. (My
bosses are too cheap to buy me one!)
Any replies are appreciated.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Re: Desktop Extenders - What are worthwhile?
Message-ID: <CK7osp.1zs@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <s771966.759534497@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 00:45:59 GMT
In article <s771966.759534497@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU>
s771966@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (David Green) writes:
> I have seen many references and ads about desktop extender apps
> (MetroTools, LaunchPad, etc.). I have a fairly simple question:
>
> What, if any, practical value are these packages and what would be
> your recommendation for the best overall one to get?
>
> (OK, so it's not so simple a question after all 8-).
>
> I am a new NSFIP user (although an experienced UNIX/Sun/DOS
> user/administrator for many years) and would like some end-user
> opinions on these apps and their overall usefulness.
>
Hi, I have used quite a few and finally tried MonsterShelf and
found that for me, dragging and dropping icons onto the screen
background is the easiest way to go.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: akuehl@anarch.do.open.de (Andreas Kuehl)
Subject: layout-program for elektronical circuits
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.005617.341@anarch.do.open.de>
Sender: usenet@anarch.do.open.de
Organization: LogikFabrik/WiLa Dortmund
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 00:56:17 GMT
Hi out there!
I'm looking for a graphics-application, which allows me to do a
layout of electronical circuits.
I just need it to do some small private jobs, not for constructing new
computersystems, so it doesn't need to be very powerful.
It may run on white or black hardware as I can use both colours at
the moment.
I would be very happy to get a hint for a ftp-server for example to solve
my problem.
Nice would be EMail, as I don't regularly read this newsboard.
Hoping for answer:
Andreas
------------------------------------------------------------
Andreas Kuehl
c/o Wissenschaftsladen Dortmund e-mail:
Lindemannstr. 84 akuehl@anarch.do.open.de
D-44137 Dortmund / Germany
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Subject: Where to find TypingCzar
Message-ID: <CK7tx3.HwF@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access Service (310 527-4279)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 02:36:39 GMT
I saw a posting the other day offering a nice low price on an app called
Typing Czar. I just set my young kids up with a NeXT and would like to have
a good typing app for them. Anyone remember the deal? It was like $49 for
the thing. If anyone has the address, I'd appreciate a note.
thanks,
-Chip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: slfields@metronet.com (Scott Fields)
Subject: ResDump1.1
Organization: Texas Metronet, Internet for the Individual 214-705-2917 (info)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 02:12:33 GMT
Message-ID: <CK7ssy.Ho5@metronet.com>
Distribution: usa
Apparently, the file I first uploaded to cs.orst.ed was corrupted, it
should be fine now. Check out the version with "fixed" in the title.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: We'll need a news app soon...
Message-ID: <1994Jan25.153239.7848@afs.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 15:32:39 GMT
Beginning with NS3.0, things started to break in Newsgrazer. It
ain't gonna get any better as time goes on. I don't want to go
back to rn. Where's the next news app coming from? Did Newsgrazer
Pro ever ship? Anything new in the public domain? Does anybody
know anything? I sure don't ;-).
Thanx,
Michael
--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com "Schopenhauer's not as optimistic as Nietzsche,
NeXTMail accepted but he makes up for it by being less cheerful
than Kierkegaard."
- Kim Pizolato
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: slfields@metronet.com (Scott Fields)
Subject: ResDump1.1!!!!
Organization: Texas Metronet, Internet for the Individual 214-705-2917 (info)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 02:41:38 GMT
Message-ID: <CK7u5F.L0v@metronet.com>
Distribution: usa
Well, after screwing up on the first transfers, here is the file to
download from cs.orst.edu in pub/next/submissions
ResDump1.1.app.tar.Z.fixed
THE LONGEST ONE!!!!
GEEZ!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd)
Subject: How to: Convert PS to rtf or ascii?
Message-ID: <1994Jan25.210047.12634@gleap.sccsi.com>
Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com
Organization: GiantLeap Software
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 21:00:47 GMT
What apps, utilities, or filters are available for making an rtf file out of a
PS file?
Thanks
--
Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.sccsi.com
GiantLeap Software
(713) 292-5853 or 363-9001 (Hou) (713) 363-9763 (fax)
From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosaic or html view
Date: 26 Jan 1994 03:48:32 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2i4p6g$5d7@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Is there a subclass of Text (View) which can present html interactively?
Is Berners-Lee WorldWideWeb.app v 0.14, the latest, only WWW viewer under NS?
Sha Xin Wei
Stanford University
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to downgrade from NS 3.2 -> NS 3.1 ??
Date: 26 Jan 1994 07:55:43 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2i57m0$car@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I upgraded from NS 3.1 to NS 3.2, and it seems to me that faxing is
all screwed up in NS 3.2 (I use "mix" and also Neuron 1414+). After
discussing this with a number of people it seems that NeXT did change
something that broke faxing somehow. So I decided to downgrade from
NS 3.2 to NS 3.1. I start the Installer and I get this message:
Preparing / for upgrade...
This upgrade can't be used to upgrade Release 3.2.
NeXT cannot possibly have been so nuts as to prevent me from going
back to NS 3.1, right? So I must be doing something wrong. But what?
Heikki Ketola
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Use TeX with system font
Date: 26 Jan 1994 08:42:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2i5ad7$oai@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Hi, all
I do not know if it's possible that using the system font in TeX.
I know the TeX use MeteFont, but someone tell me that it's possible
to use system font. If it did, how?
Since there are one *Free* chinese postcript font in ftp, I want
to use it in TeX.
Many thanks,
mark
From: pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tcsh
Date: 26 Jan 1994 08:26:00 GMT
Organization: Gemeinde Wien MD-ADV/Ma; A-1010 Wien; Austria
Message-ID: <PFP.94Jan26092600@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at>
References: <QhEPGVW00iV0E4B3cZ@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-reply-to: "Gabriel D. Underwood"'s message of Sat, 22 Jan 1994 18:20:01 -0500
>>>>> "Gabriel" == Gabriel D Underwood <gabe+@CMU.EDU> writes:
Gabriel> I'm looking for tcsh source that's ready to run on
Gabriel> NeXTSTEP 3.1 and 3.2, black and white hardware. Any
Gabriel> pointers would be appreciated.
I've got tcsh 6.04 compiled under NSfIP 3.2 and it runs great.
If you compile it, you must run your make from /bin/sh, thats the only
problem I got!
peter
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From: lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Plotting and Statistics
Date: 26 Jan 1994 08:18:52 GMT
Organization: University of Tuebingen
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i591c$mgn@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu>
In article p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu, farsh@radius.ortho.sunysb.edu (Farsh Guilak) writes:
>Does anybody know of a really good, presentation-quality software package
>for scientific graphing and plotting? I am looking for something akin to
>Kaleidegraph or Cricket graph for the NeXT. One thing I am having a lot
>of trouble finding is the ability to put error bars on data points and bar
>graphs.
Look for Hippoplotamus and SciPlot on the archives. There are others, but I
think those two will do what you want. I don't know anything about the quality
of the output or the handling, though.
Bye,
Harald
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: guido@cwi.nl (Guido van Rossum)
Subject: Re: Is Python available under NextStep?
Message-ID: <CK8GGE.FD2@cwi.nl>
Sender: news@cwi.nl (The Daily Dross)
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 10:43:24 GMT
[The base article was forwarded to me by email so I'm faking a
followup here...]
gorlick@aero.org (Michael Gorlick) writes:
> Has anyone ported Python (an interpreted object-oriented rapid prototyping
> language) to the Next and if so is the port available via anonymous ftp?
> Thanks.
You are just in time asking this question!
I'm about to release Python 1.0.0 which will have a greatly improved
configuration and build structure. It should build with no manual
intervention whatsoever on almost any Unix flavor.
There's a beta version of 1.0.0 out on ftp.cwi.nl, directory
/pub/python, file python1.0.0beta.tar.Z. Feel free to fetch it and
test it on the NeXT.
I haven't had any test reports from NeXT systems yet, but I know an
earlier version (0.9.9) built on the NeXT with very few changes, all
of which I hope to have accounted for in 1.0.0.
If you encounter any problems, please email them to me and I'll try to
think of a fix -- usually this is a matter of adding a few lines to
the configure script source. (If you encounter no problems, please
let me know as well, so I can boast NeXT as one of the supported
systems in the announcement :-)
--Guido van Rossum, CWI, Amsterdam <Guido.van.Rossum@cwi.nl>
URL: <http://www.cwi.nl/cwi/people/Guido.van.Rossum.html>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Re: SysV curses for NeXT...
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.104335.26411@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
References: <1994Jan25.204953.14602@sol.UVic.CA>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 10:43:35 GMT
Michael O'Henly (mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca) wrote:
: A while ago, someone mentioned that they'd done a NeXT port of
: SysV curses.
Try to ftp to:
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/next/Unix/misc/ncurses-1.8.tar.gz
But should be on any NeXT archive (e.g. cs.orst.edu).
Gregor
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From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosaic
Date: 24 Jan 1994 09:48:32 -0500
Organization: Collins International Services Company
Message-ID: <2i0n40$ht2@sgate.com>
Has anyone been able to successfully get the Mosaic-16bit-2.1-NeXT.compressed
file off of cs.orst.edu? I've done it twice and the file seems to be
corrupt.
------
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------
If you've seen one city slum, you've seen them all.
- Spiro Agnew
From: krause@math.tu-berlin.de (Martin Krause)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OCR Software
Date: 26 Jan 1994 12:36:13 GMT
Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ
Message-ID: <2i5o3t$5he@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Hello,
does anybody know a decent character recognition
program for the NeXT?
Thanks
Martin
From: mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sound file compatability
Date: 26 Jan 1994 14:08:04 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i5tg4$8n1@news.UU.NET>
References: <CK75HI.J5z@Colorado.EDU>
Both NeXT .snd files and Sun .au files will play on the NeXT. To play the Sun
files, all you needa do is change the .au to a .snd!
=====================================================
Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
=====================================================
From: "Ryan B. Troll" <ry+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: Chinese Apps
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 09:33:26 -0500
Organization: University Libraries - Library Automatio, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <whFbwqe00VIdA=3ndV@andrew.cmu.edu>
I would like to demonstrate the multiple language ability of my NeXT
to a few friends, most of whom speak Mandarin Chinese. Does anybody
have any apps that operate in Chinese?
Or, better yet, a Chinese language package?
Thanks,
Ryan Troll
Carnegie Mellon University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: WetPaint vs TIFFany
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.151133.28263@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
References: <25JAN199413363197@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 15:11:33 GMT
In article <25JAN199413363197@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>,
MCCOLLAM, DON <citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> wrote:
> I'd like to see a knowledgeable comparison of WetPaint and TIFFany. What are
> each's highpoints? Lowpoints? What can be done with one but not the other?
> Which has the greatest utility - on the low end (pixel drawing/painting) -
> on the high end (photo/image retouching).
I have used WetPaint fairly extensively for pixel-level drawing, and I
find it quite capable. The selected fill features are well
implemented, and the anti-aliased zoom and reduce functions are worth
the cost alone. It also excels at painting with arbitrary gradients
and patterns. I've been able to easily cut portions of images and
combine them into decent looking artwork. As an example, the new
artwork in Solitaire 2.0 was done entirely with WetPaint (cut me some
slack with the 2-bit gray versions of those images -- I only have so
much patience %^). WetPaint is also quite stable in my experience, and
cheaper.
However, I've heard TIFFany is much better at photo retouching, and excels
most with very large 32-bit color images. In my short demo tests, I found
version 1.0 lacking for pixel level editing (read icon creation). Version
2.0 may address those problems. TIFFany does appear to be much better at
color correction operations.
The products really address two different needs. Choose the best match
for you. BTW, both are extensible if you can program in Objective C.
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
From: "Ryan B. Troll" <ry+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Digital Librarian Help
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 09:37:30 -0500
Organization: University Libraries - Library Automatio, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ghFc0em00VId0=3nxX@andrew.cmu.edu>
Could somebody please point me to some documentation on the Digital
Librarian? I would like to know what influence the following files
have on the display:
.nroffArgs
.displayCommand
as well as know what other magic files affect DL.
I wanted to try and run some newer manpages through gnu-nroff and
gnu-tbl, since the versions supplied with NeXTStep cannot handle
everything. (For example, check out the manpages supplied with
co-Xist.)
The command:
gnroff -man foo.man
displays the manpage correctly, but with I use this in
.displayCommand, the selections that were grey instead of black were
displayed improperly.
Thanks,
Ryan Troll
Carnegie Mellon University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "J. Shan Bell" <bellj@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: We'll need a news app soon...
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.120328.1147@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
References: <1994Jan25.153239.7848@afs.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:03:18 -0500
There's NewsBase. It's availble in source form and
compiles under intel and moto. I've used it some. It's not,
but it's a little wierd.
--
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: os-bs Intel boot manager
Message-ID: <Jan.26.13.04.17.1994.822@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 26 Jan 94 18:04:17 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Im trying to find a particular boot manager--its called os-bs
and it can be found (at least) at ftp.prz.tu-berlin.de under /bu/pc/os-bs.
The problem is the link is so slow its not usable from my location. I was
wondering if anyone out there already has this app and wouldn't mind next
mailing me a copy...If you could send me a note saying you have it and if I
want it, you'll NeXTmail it to me (That way I wont get a zillion copies of
it, killing bandwidth)...That would be great.
Or if anyone knows where I might find a copy of it at a US archive site
that, too would be great. I already looked at umich and fuarchive and didnt
see it.
Thanks for any help in advance.
Later, John
From: kdb@pegasus (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AKCL on NeXTSTEP
Date: 26 Jan 1994 18:19:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2i6c6u$30k@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I'm trying to compile the lastest version of AKCL(1.623) on NeXTSTEP 3.2, but
with no success. When the makefile runs "raw_kcl" as part of the make, it
crashes with a segmentation violation. Has anybody successfully compiled this
or can help me with makefile modification suggestions. Glancing at make's
output leads me to believe that debugging ithe make process would be VERY
involved.
Thanks for any help anyone can give.
Kurt :-)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin +
+ kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Plotting and Statistics
Date: 26 Jan 1994 18:24:30 GMT
Organization: BWB - ETH-Zuerich
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i6cgu$ohs@elna.ethz.ch>
References: <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu>
In article <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu>
farsh@radius.ortho.sunysb.edu (Farsh Guilak) writes:
>Does anybody know of a really good, presentation-quality software package
>for scientific graphing and plotting? I am looking for something akin to
>Kaleidegraph or Cricket graph for the NeXT. One thing I am having a lot
>of trouble finding is the ability to put error bars on data points and
bar
>graphs.
>
>Thanks...
>Farsh
>
Best choice is SciPlot (latest version is 3.6)! Wonderful GUI, very simple
to use, macros, curve fitting, etc., etc.. I think that you can find the
latest version on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: Re: Use TeX with system font
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.182500.13762@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis
References: <2i5ad7$oai@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 18:25:00 GMT
In article <2i5ad7$oai@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) writes:
> Hi, all
>
> I do not know if it's possible that using the system font in TeX.
>
>I know the TeX use MeteFont, but someone tell me that it's possible
>
>to use system font. If it did, how?
>
> Since there are one *Free* chinese postcript font in ftp, I want
>
>to use it in TeX.
>
>Many thanks,
>
> mark
>
>
You can indeed use the system resident postscript fonts in TeX using the
TeXview program (or more precisely, using dvips which the TeXview program
also uses). It is covered in the NeXTTeX manual on line. I began to
investigate this also when I saw the chinese font available, but
unfortunately it is not so easy with that font because it is a 16 bit font
(encoded in Big-5) whereas the NeXT TeX distribution can only handle the
standard 8 bit fonts at present. I have asked the author of TeXview about
it, and something may come of it, but I am not sure yet.
Cheers,
Don Petcher
From: csmith@gmu.edu (Christian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software Distributers
Date: 26 Jan 1994 18:02:24 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i6b7g$3nb@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Anybody out there know any good distributers that offer educational
discounts on NeXTStep software, both Black and White hardware versions?
Chris
csmith@gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "J. Shan Bell" <bellj@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Problems with StarShipView
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.122021.1623@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
References: <2hvh1t$mjs@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:20:16 -0500
In article <2hvh1t$mjs@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
Alex Currier <mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
>While I'm thinking about star ships... there used to be a game called Void
>(not the older NX_Void but a newer version). I don't know where it came from
>and I can't find it again but I've played it. Does anyone know where I can get
>a copy now?
I bought my copy from Lighthouse Design. Great game. I
haven't heard anyting recent about it. I assume that a black
verions can still be had. It was $99 for a student a couple of
years ago.
--
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// bellj@indiana.edu //////|||||||||\\\\\\\ bellj@iubacs.bitnet \\
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: How to customize Rulers?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <CK4tL5.JA@basil.icce.rug.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 08:30:54 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.083054.389@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom R.Hageman (tom@basil.icce.rug.nl) wrote:
[...]
> How do I customize a Text Ruler? The reason I ask is that the standard Ruler
> I get in Edit, Mail, etc. provides just about 10cm worth of tab stops, so that
> when I hit the Tab key while the cursor is to the right of that, it causes an
> unexpected (by me at least) wraparound. Very annoying. Is there a dwrite I can
> set so that the Ruler provides more tab stops?
I would be interested in an answer to that problem as well. ;-)
> And while we're at it, is there a way to _add_ tab stops to a ruler
> interactively? (I know how to move a tab stop. I tried just about every
> combination of Shift- Alternate-, Control- and Command- Click and -Drag in the
> hope that this would copy the tab stop somehow. To no avail ;-(
Click JUST BELOW the ruler where you want the new tab stop and click on the
left side below the ruler to remove the last tab stop.
Gerhard.
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From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer Unable To Post
Date: 26 Jan 1994 17:06:41 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401262311.AA16300@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu>
i've discovered, with a recent rash of problems, that
since the upgrade to 3.2 of our black machines, we
cannot post with NewsGrazer.
can someone help?
thanks!!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT BBS Software
From: damon.cooper@canrem.com (Damon Cooper)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <60.8346.2746.0N1926E5@canrem.com>
References: <1994Jan20.161718.8298@crash>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 21:53:00 -0400
Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario)
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
>Path: portnoy!news2.uunet.ca!spool.mu.edu!caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!eng.ufl.edu
>saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu
>howland.reston.ans.net!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!newshub.nosc.mil!crash!coconut
>From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)>Subject: Re: NeXT BBS Software
>Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA
>Date: 20 Jan 94 16:17:18 PST
>Message-ID: <1994Jan20.161718.8298@crash>
>References: <2hi6fc$587@inxs.concert.net>
>Lines: 26
>
>David B Briggman -- Personal Account (briggman@rock.concert.net) wrote:
>: There is a company down in Florida, called Coconet I believe, who was
>: developing a NEXT GUI BBS that would allow NeXTs (with the proper software
>: installed on the remote machines) and PCs (under the same conditions)
>: to dial up to a BBS server. I will post their EMAIL address if I can find it.
>:
>:
>: Dave
>: --
>: Advanced Business Systems A NeXTSTEP-only
>Reseller
>: (919) 682-8553 [Voice] 19 Joci
>Court
>: (919) 682-1126 [Fax] Durham, North Carolina
>27704
>: ****EFFECTIVE 10 JANUARY 1994, PLEASE SEND EMAIL TO: info@absystems.com****
>
>
>Coconut Computing, Inc., and we're located in La Jolla, California, thank you.
>We have not released a NEXTSTEP version of our COCONET(R) product; it was
>shelved back in 93 when NeXT gave up on hardware, and only recently is it back
>in development; we plan to release it later this yr; probably 2Q94.
>
>For more info, email info@coconut.com.
>
>-- brian dear
>coconut computing, inc.
>la jolla, ca
>
>
---
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: troff to TeX possible?
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.230007.28173@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 23:00:07 GMT
Is there a TeX group on usenet? I couldn't find one, and I would like to
ask this question:
A colleague of mine needs to somehow translate troff files (with lots of
math) into TeX files. Is this possible?
Thanks in advance.
--
Michael Suk-Young Chwe chwe@uchicago.edu (NeXTMail OK)
__|__ | / _| ( ) Economics Department, University of Chicago
/ \ | /\__| __|_|__ 1126 E 59th Street, Chicago, IL 60637 USA
__|__ | / ( ) Facsimile 312-702-8490
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: scripts from terminal?
Date: 26 Jan 1994 20:42:02 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2i6kiq$ljl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
How can I avoid that this silly window pops up into my view everythime I start
a shell script?
Thanks,
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (NeXT-Mail)
gmk@goshawk.lanl.gov, gmk@santafe.edu
(217)-244-5877 (voice/fax modem),x8371(fax), x1994 (msg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: s9uart@blackhole (Ried Thiel)
Subject: Re: Sound file compatability
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.191854.25932@almserv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: Fannie Mae
References: <2i5tg4$8n1@news.UU.NET>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 19:18:54 GMT
In article <2i5tg4$8n1@news.UU.NET> mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
writes:
> Both NeXT .snd files and Sun .au files will play on the NeXT. To play
the Sun
> files, all you needa do is change the .au to a .snd!
>
This does not always work. We have a bunch of large sound files that were
created on the Sun and they do not plat at all on the NeXT. Go figure.
> =====================================================
> Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
> Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
> UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
> Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
> =====================================================
--
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*===========ooO-(_)-Ooo=================*
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UNIX Technical Services Beeper (202)668-7791
From: dario@voluptas (Dario Ringach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stuart and tcsh for Intel??
Date: 26 Jan 1994 23:22:55 GMT
Organization: New York University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i6u0f$fa0@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Are binaries for Stuart and tcsh for Intel machines
available from any of the next ftp sites?
Thanks in advance.
--
Dario
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From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Email-adress of Lotus + Improv Update
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.121802.1506@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de
Organization: Westwerk
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:18:02 GMT
I am looking for the Email-Adress of Lotus.
I have bought an official package of Improv from a friend which I want to be
registered at Lotus.
Does anyone know which interim-release of Improv was the latest ?
Thanks,
Michael Burgstahler
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mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
70193 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Fon 0711 / 638360
Fax 0711 / 634696
******************************************
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******************************************
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mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
From: rlion@access1.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Can you change the default app for any given file type?
Date: 26 Jan 1994 20:18:40 -0500
Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA
Message-ID: <2i74pg$330@access1.digex.net>
References: <1994Jan24.180058.26018@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Keywords: app
In article <1994Jan24.180058.26018@beaver.cs.washington.edu>,
Daniel Fineman <fineman@cs.washington.edu> wrote:
>Hey all - i recently downloaded Emacs for NeXTStep, and i'd much
>rather have text files loaded into Emacs than Edit when you
>double-click on them. Can you change this somehow? I can't see a way
>to change any of this in the workspace preferences.... there's only
>one option for which app to open - how can you add another one?
under inspector (Workspace -> tools -> inspector) you can go to
contents and choose what to load up the program in. If you find that
emacs is not loaded in as an option, then you can try running the program
(emacs) while you load it up. It sound wierd, but I was trying to get
SoundCheck.app to play sounds instead of Sound.app and it wasn't on the
list, so I tried a bunch of stuff to get NeXTstep to recognize it and it
seemed that actually having the app runinng while i went to contents
inspector seemed to work..
--
Eli Rosenblatt (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail))
/\ Rebellion Systems
\/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, repair, and Sales
From: shiva@vega.stanford.edu (Marcos Javier Polanco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Trouble compiling trn2.2
Date: 26 Jan 1994 20:36:07 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University
Sender: root@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <9401270132.AA04996@vega>
Hello, Gentlefolk,
I am having terrible trouble configuring and compiling trn2.2
on my friendly NeXTstation. Do any veterans have tricks they
would like to share?
I don't have access to the newgroups currently, so please send
your responses directly to me. I'll post my findings.
Thanks.
- marcos j. polanco
- shiva@vega.stanford.edu
From: Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer Unable to Post
Date: 27 Jan 1994 01:37:00 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i75rs$nvh@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In an article: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
> i've discovered, with a recent rash of problems, that
> since the upgrade to 3.2 of our black machines, we
> cannot post with NewsGrazer.
> can someone help?
> thanks!!
When you post to Usenet, you have to remember that the Subject line is the only line that can have capital letters in it. In all other fields, the words must be typed in lower case.
Try that. If that does not work, you may have a problem with your network. Or, someone else on the net can be of assistance.
--
Copyright 1994 Charles M. Dudley Charles.Dudley@umich.edu
NEXTSTEP User 313.308.3792
P. O. Box 130231 Ann Arbor, MI 48113
NeXTmail to: warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
"The One True President of the Michigan NeXTSTEP Users Group."letters in it. In all other fields, the words must be typed in lower case.
Try that. If that does not work, you may have a problem with your network. Or, someone else on NeXTmail to: warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
"The One True President of the Michigan NeXTSTEP Users Group."Users Group."
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From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: Re: OCR Software
Message-ID: <CK9M9H.1zD@beach.com>
Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
References: <2i5o3t$5he@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 01:46:28 GMT
In article <2i5o3t$5he@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
krause@math.tu-berlin.de (Martin Krause) writes:
> Hello,
>
> does anybody know a decent character recognition
> program for the NeXT?
>
> Thanks
> Martin
Yes, OCR Servant. Here is complete info:
Product Name: OCR Servant
List Price: $295.00
Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
Product description:
OCR Servant is an Optical Character Recognition (OCR) utility based
on omnifont technology that makes text recognition of TIFF or FAX
images quick and easy. Just select a region of text from a displayed
image, or an entire file in the file viewer, then start OCR Servant
simply by selecting it from the Services menu, just as you would
select NeXTmail or Digital Webster.
OCR Servant recognizes text and then displays the text in it's
built-in text editor. You can then edit the text, check spelling, set
fonts, adjust the layout of the text, copy and paste the text to your
favorite word processor, or take advantage of other services which
accept text as input.
OCR Servant recognizes most common fonts and typestyles at speeds
from 40 to over 200 characters per second with an accuracy rate of up
to 100 percent. It supports character sizes from 8 to 36 points at
resolutions between 200 and 400 dpi. OCR Servant converts scanned
documents, high-resolution faxes and TIFF images into ASCII text and
saves text in Rich Text Format (RTF).
Features
1. High Accuracy
2. Fast Recognition Speed
3. Utilizes "omnifont" technology
Benefits
1. Up to 100 percent accuracy with documents of good, scanned image
quality or high-resolution computer generated fax.
2. Recognizes 40 to over 200 characters per second for fast
processing of multiple pages or long documents.
3. OCR Servant utilizes "omnifont" technology to automatically
recognize text. It is not necessary to "train" the system recognize
characters.
To Order, Contact HSD via email at sales@hsd.com
--
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd)
Subject: Re: How to customize Rulers?
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.020236.26941@gleap.sccsi.com>
Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com
Organization: GiantLeap Software
References: <1994Jan26.083054.389@proximus.north.de>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 02:02:36 GMT
>Tom R.Hageman (tom@basil.icce.rug.nl) wrote:
> How do I customize a Text Ruler? The reason I ask is
> that the standard Ruler I get in Edit, Mail, etc. provides
> just about 10cm worth of tab stops, so that when I hit the
> Tab key while the cursor is to the right of that, it causes
> an unexpected (by me at least) wraparound. Very annoying.
> Is there a dwrite I can set so that the Ruler provides
> more tab stops?
>
I don't have an elegant solution, but here's a workaround...
You can keep a "template" file around that has various different ruler settings
in it. I put some text describing the ruler setting and then set the ruler up
with tabs and left margins and all that. Then I can cut-and-paste the ruler
setting from the template to the destination using cmd-1/cmd-2. I keep this
template file around for many differ things.
Charles.
--
Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.sccsi.com
GiantLeap Software
(713) 292-5853 or 363-9001 (Hou) (713) 363-9763 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Subject: Re: Sendmail on NS 3.0
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.212256.10498@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <chDhE3600WBO0386QX@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:22:56 GMT
Does this latest version of sendmail contain the changes NeXT made to
support NetInfo?
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV
In article <chDhE3600WBO0386QX@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.bugs: 20-Jan-94 Sendmail on NS
3.0
> by Adam Bentley@rowan.coven
> > IS there a version of sendmail for NeXT's (68040 Black h/w) that
works?
> > I have a lab of NS 3.0 machines and when I attempted to put a new
> > sendmail.cf on the main gateway machine (one which functions
fine on
> > Suns,Decs,SGI's, Sequents, etc.), it makes an absolute nonsense
of the
> > rules....
> >
> > Where can I get a version of sendmail that works?
>
> V8.6.4 (or later) of sendmail is available:
>
> via anonymous FTP from FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU in /ucb/sendmail
>
> It fixes all of the known security holes in sendmail. [Yes, there
are
> security holes in the version of sendmail shipped with all versions
of
> NEXTSTEP, at least up to 3.1 -- and I'll be seeing 3.2 soon, so
I'll
> check when I get it.]
>
> -Chuck
>
>
> Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
> --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always
real, even
> AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
> Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not
your friends.
> NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
>
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Using ISO9660 CDROM on NeXT, Exporting thru NFS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 27 Jan 1994 05:39:54 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2i7k3a$m17@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <1994Jan25.174827.27525@serval.net.wsu.edu>
John L. Burke (jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu) wrote:
: Ok, this problem has gone on for quite some time. I have found that while
: I can mount and read locally an ISO9660 formatted CD-ROM (an MSDOS CD),
: when I export it, it fails to export properly. Is there any way that I
: can fool the system by setting up a link or something that will allow it
: to read locally and export as if it were a hard drive or just another
: directory, instead of a CD-ROM? I really would like to be able to access
: this CD-ROM from my PC, which does not have a CD-ROM drive on it. (My
: bosses are too cheap to buy me one!)
: Any replies are appreciated.
I had this same problem a few weeks ago. After wasting a lot of time on it,
I finally called NeXT and they said that you can't do it -- NS doesn't support
the exporting of CD-ROM mounted filesystems. And they had no plans of
supporting it in the future. :-(((
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can you change the default app for any given file type?
Date: 27 Jan 1994 06:58:53 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2i7ond$f4l@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2i74pg$330@access1.digex.net>
In article <2i74pg$330@access1.digex.net> rlion@access1.digex.net (Eli
Rosenblatt) writes:
> It sound wierd, but I was trying to get
> SoundCheck.app to play sounds instead of Sound.app and it wasn't on the
> list, so I tried a bunch of stuff to get NeXTstep to recognize it and it
> seemed that actually having the app runinng while i went to contents
> inspector seemed to work..
In order to show up in the Tools dialogue of the Inspector an application must
either reside in /NextApps, /LocalApps, or ~/Apps or be in the dock. I suppose
a running app would show up but then it probably wouldn't work after you
closed the app. A nice bonus of putting all your apps in one of the *Apps
directories is that many apps have services built into them (ie "Look Up In
Hackers Jargon", "Size In Dark Forest", "Open in *", "Paste Into *"... and so
forth). Of course, the best result of all this is that data files belonging to
these apps suddenly have the proper icons on them and will open into their
makers when double clicked. If you want to arrange your apps in other folders
for organization sake then make links of them into the proper folders (leaving
the originals in *Apps).
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X?
==============================================================================
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sound file compatability
Date: 27 Jan 1994 07:04:09 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i7p19$f5f@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2i5tg4$8n1@news.UU.NET>
In article <2i5tg4$8n1@news.UU.NET> mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
writes:
> Both NeXT .snd files and Sun .au files will play on the NeXT. To play the
> Sun files, all you needa do is change the .au to a .snd!
For those of you who don't already know and for what it's worth, the program
GISO will read .wav files and convert them to NeXT playable .au sounds (just
save them as .snd). I subscribed to alt.binaries.sounds.* groups the other day
and discovered that I could decompress .zip files by renaming them to .z files
(that was pretty easy) and that .wav files were readable by GISO (lucky I had
it lying around). IMHO, most .wav sounds you might get from a.b.s.* are pretty
poorly made and edited but still it's fun to hear them.
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X?
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hgromard@xlan.fdn.org (Herve de Gromard)
Subject: CD NOVA
Message-ID: <1994Jan26.085854.1881@xlan.fdn.org>
Sender: news@xlan.fdn.org
Organization: X&LAN - Bordeaux, France.
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 08:58:54 GMT
Hi,
We are a French NeXT VAR, and we want to by CD Nova.
Is anybody be kind enough to tell us the adress and/or phone / fax /
emeail of the editor or distributor.
Thanks by advance
# Herve de GROMARD # Email/NeXTmail:hgromard@xlan.fdn.org #
# X&LAN - FRANCE # Tel:(+33)56 51 04 89 Fax:(+33)56 51 05 31 #
#################################################################
####################################################################
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: French WordPerfect
Date: 27 Jan 1994 01:17:01 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401270308.AA21133@relay2.geis.com>
kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung) said:
>Hi All
>Does anyone know if there is a French Spell Checker for WordPerfect? I
>would ask WordPerfect
Kenny,
Over I year ago, WordPerfect sent me a french version of WordPerfect
not only the spell checker but the whole app in french.
I don't remember the version #, I don't know if it's been updated.
or if it's still available but I would be interested in knowing...
Later!
Eric "E.T." Tremblay
Montreal, Quebec
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Use TeX with system font
Date: 27 Jan 1994 08:16:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2i7t91$p20@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <2i5ad7$oai@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <1994Jan26.182500.13762@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Donald N. Petcher (petcher@howdy.wustl.edu) wrote:
: You can indeed use the system resident postscript fonts in TeX using the
: TeXview program (or more precisely, .....
:
: unfortunately it is not so easy with that font because it is a 16 bit font
: (encoded in Big-5) whereas the NeXT TeX distribution can only handle the
: standard 8 bit fonts at present.
And it means that we got no chance * NOW * to use Chinese with TeXview if
it's Big-5 encoded, right?
But how about GB font? I know the there is ChTeX for Linux, and have both
GB and Big-5 font. Or I just can wait till NeXT TeX can handle 16 bit font.
Thanks, very much ...
mark
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: .Wav files playable on a NeXT
Date: 27 Jan 1994 05:53:08 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2i7ks4$9f7@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Are there any programs out there that will play .Wav files on a NeXT.
.Wav files are a PC sound format.
Chris
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Trouble compiling trn2.2
Date: 27 Jan 1994 08:50:21 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2i7v8d$1m9@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <9401270132.AA04996@vega>
shiva@vega.stanford.edu (Marcos Javier Polanco) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>
>Hello, Gentlefolk,
>
>I am having terrible trouble configuring and compiling trn2.2
>on my friendly NeXTstation. Do any veterans have tricks they
>would like to share?
>
>I don't have access to the newgroups currently, so please send
>your responses directly to me. I'll post my findings.
>
>Thanks.
>
>- marcos j. polanco
>- shiva@vega.stanford.edu
I run trn daily and it's an easy compile. I'd by happy to help you if
you could let me know a bit more about your problems.
One thing you have to do after configure is edit config.sh (when it
asks if you want to) and change dirent_h from "define" to "undef"
I'm running trn-3.4.1.tar.gz myself.
Let me know if I can help in anyway.
--
"You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant)
"What?"
"Nothing" (Charade, 1963)
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Desktop Extenders - What are worthwhile?
Date: 26 Jan 1994 22:16:39 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i6q48$ndb@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <s771966.759534497@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU>
s771966@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (David Green) writes:
> I have seen many references and ads about desktop extender apps
> (MetroTools, LaunchPad, etc.). I have a fairly simple question:
>
> What, if any, practical value are these packages and what would
> be your recommendation for the best overall one to get?
If you only use a few apps, then you probably don't need a dock
extender. I have about a dozen apps that I use regularly, and
probably another dozen that I use often enough that I don't want
to search for them.
The dock extender in MetroTools is pretty nice, and you also get
a number of other utilities in the package. I didn't have any
problems when using it, that I can remember.
The dock extender I use these days is the new version of
EngageDesktop. It has a lot of useful features, and hasn't
caused any problems for me.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: federico@heinz.in-berlin.de (Federico Heinz)
Subject: Re: Anyone using Canon BJC-600 on NS/fip? I guess it's the best...
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.113856.2480@dart.de>
Sender: federico@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <1994Jan24.150533.27985@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 11:38:56 GMT
In article <1994Jan24.150533.27985@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) writes:
> Has anybody been able (or even tried?) to get the Canon
> bjc-600 to work on NS/fip? It isn't on "Dot's" list of
> supported printers, [...]
It isn't yet, but it will be there in the upcoming version 3.5, to be
released soon. The new version will add support for 24-pin dot-matrix
printers (Epson, NEC, IBM ProPrinter XL...), monochrome ink-jet printers from
Canon and Epson, and color ink-jet printers from Canon.
Federico Heinz
DISCLAIMER: I'm the author of Dots (and I never quite understood why this
stupid line is called DISCLAIMER...)
From: 1hschulz@rzdspc4.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OCR Software
Date: 27 Jan 94 12:22:36 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Message-ID: <1hschulz.759673356@rzdspc4>
References: <2i5o3t$5he@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <CK9M9H.1zD@beach.com>
dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) writes:
>Yes, OCR Servant. Here is complete info:
>Product Name: OCR Servant
>List Price: $295.00
>Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
>Product description: [deleted]
Will there be a rapid sell out - like HSDSpell - here too??
It's sort of frustrating to buy a product, just to find it
three days later at about 15% the price.
Heiko
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Chinese Apps
Date: 27 Jan 1994 13:56:54 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2i8h76$374@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <whFbwqe00VIdA=3ndV@andrew.cmu.edu>
Ryan B. Troll (ry+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: I would like to demonstrate the multiple language ability of my NeXT
: to a few friends, most of whom speak Mandarin Chinese. Does anybody
: have any apps that operate in Chinese?
: Or, better yet, a Chinese language package?
There are some Chinese Apps like: CEdit, Longman dictionary
( English-to-Chinese dictionary),
Paper ( for Desktop Publisher ), and CInput ( for Input Chinese )
etc. But all of them are commerical.
And there is one Free Chinese Postscript Font in FTP site.
mark
TwNUG ( Taiwan NeXT User Group )
From: gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Librarian problems
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.140353.592@dbulm1.uucp>
Date: 27 Jan 94 14:03:52 +0100
Organization: Daimler-Benz, Forschungszentrum Ulm
Hi,
we are having some problems when using WriteNow files with Librarian.
Since NeXTSTEP 3.0 (we are currently running 3.1) Digital Librarian does no
longer work with WriteNow files. It simply does not find any entry! Does
anybody know a solution to this problem?
Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Jochen Gloger
===============================================================================
Jochen Gloger, Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm,
Institute of Information Technology, Department of Text Understanding
Phone: +49 731 505 2353, Fax: +49 731 505 4113
Address: Wilhelm-Runge-Str.11, P.O. Box 23 60, 89013 Ulm, Germany
email: unido.uucp!dbulm1!gloger OR
gloger%dbulm1.uucp@germany.eu.net OR
...!ira.uka.de!fauern!unido!dbulm1!gloger OR
...!{uunet,corton,sunic,ukc}!mcsun!unido!dbulm1!gloger
===============================================================================
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: nwu.comp.sys.next,nwu.networks.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Still slip on NeXT
Date: 27 Jan 1994 14:53:55 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Message-ID: <2i8ki3$sa5@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
I have gone through a lot in an attempt to get slip up and running on
my NeXT. First I had to over come a problem with tcldiald not modifying
the kernel correctly. I have taken care of that prob now I am getting the
following messages:
dialupreq has no active reader
dialupip: This software has expired and is now stale.
dutimer: unit 0 - shutdown, we never had a line.
dutnetclose: ds 10f76000 dstty 0 unit 0
If anyone out there has any clue whatsoever as to what this might be
or why the hell it is so tough to get this thing running on /my/
NeXT (Cube 040) I would really appreciate it.
thanks
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Donald F. Bora | | |
The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O |
Northwestern University | (--|--)
Evanston, Ill | |
e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Not NeXTMail) | / \
work: (708) 467-1972 |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schweber!mono (Matthias Weber)
Subject: Any NeXTDimension programs?
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.112010.673@schweber.rhein-main.de>
Sender: mono@schweber.rhein-main.de
Organization: Schweber und ...
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 11:20:10 GMT
Hi there,
I got a NeXTDimension-board and want to build myself an opto-scanner out
of a CCD-unit by using the video input of my ND-board.
Now I got the problem to get higher resolution than the 72 DPI which I
get when I use NeXT-TV as the video input program. (cut, copy and paste
to other apps).
Now the question: are there any apps which use the video input of the
ND-board, are able to handle higher resolutions and can be used for my
project (e.g. save tiff?)
Thanks in advance
-mono-
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phone +49 69 5971815 - fax +49 69 5974204
matthias weber mono@schweber.rhein-main.de - use NeXT-mail
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From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Network time protocol problem
Date: 27 Jan 1994 15:46:12 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2i8nk4$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
About a year ago, when NeXT had its campus consultant program, the cc set
the time on my NeXT to network time protocol. It worked beautifully as
advertised, and I never missed my bus. Well the other night I missed my bus,
and I found out that the closck is 5 minutes too slow. Something is amuck.
So I tried to manually reset the time in preferences, but it would not let me,
saying the network time daemon is running, and if I wanted I could "syncronize"
my clock, which I did to no avail.
What should I do? I really have no idea how all this works in the first
place, and why it has gone amuck now. I cannot imagine that any evil sprite in
the MIT time server is at work, for I have checked out "athena" time, and it is
okay.
--
Sincerely,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: Sendmail on NS 3.0
Message-ID: <CKAp8x.M5n@fragile.termfrost.org>
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
References: <chDhE3600WBO0386QX@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Jan26.212256.10498@hot.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 15:48:33 GMT
In <1994Jan26.212256.10498@hot.com> Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com writes:
>Does this latest version of sendmail contain the changes NeXT made to
>support NetInfo?
>Robert La Ferla
>Hot Technologies
>NEXTSTEP ISV
8.6.4 doesn't, but 8.6.5 does. I haven't finished installing it yet, so does
anyone know of any big gotchas here? I'm still running the stock 5.67 now...
--
Mike Andrews "This guy's pretty bizarre, Gus."
root@fragile.termfrost.org [NeXTmail OK] - Primus
kramer@wittenberg.edu (school)
kramer@mik.uky.edu (hometown) Bassists do it deeper
From: eidosat!fichting (Helmut Fichtinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: version management and control software ?
Date: 27 Jan 1994 16:55:23 +0100
Organization: Heliosan Medicaldevelopment Center, Stockerau, Austria
Sender: fichting@eidos.co.at
Message-ID: <2i8o5b$33q@eidosat.eidos.co.at>
Having a good tool for version management and control under NS is my never
ending dream!
Does anyone know something about the app DRCS from Software Services
Solution Inc. respectively the address (e-mail, etc) of this firm?
Thanks in advance
helmut
e-mail fichting@eidos.co.at
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can you change the default app for any given file type?
Date: 27 Jan 1994 17:12:16 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2i8slg$mcj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2i7ond$f4l@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Alex Currier <mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> writes:
> In order to show up in the Tools dialogue of the Inspector an application
> must either reside in /NextApps, /LocalApps, or ~/Apps or be in the dock.
Maybe in a default NeXT installation but you can most likely get around this
by setting Workspace's ApplicationPaths default and avoid the links to the
well known *Apps directories. Of course, having lots of directories in this
path may slow down your login -- but no more than having links.
- Christopher
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Chinese Apps
Date: 27 Jan 1994 17:31:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Message-ID: <2i8tpn$a20@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <whFbwqe00VIdA=3ndV@andrew.cmu.edu> <2i8h76$374@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
In article <2i8h76$374@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>,
*** Mark Lin *** <u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw> wrote:
> And there is one Free Chinese Postscript Font in FTP site.
It's been posted already? Where?
Ken
--
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Corporate Financial Systems Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA
Core Application Technologies 1.415.857.3230 Fax 1.415.852.8026
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Subject: test - ignore please kwitt
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.162520.83205@yuma>
Date: 27 Jan 94 16:25:19 GMT
test of posting after 3.2 upgrade...
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .Wav files playable on a NeXT
Date: 27 Jan 1994 17:49:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2i8ur9$9a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2i7ks4$9f7@portal.gmu.edu>
In article <2i7ks4$9f7@portal.gmu.edu> csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian
Smith) writes:
> Are there any programs out there that will play .Wav files on a NeXT.
> ..Wav files are a PC sound format.
There is a program available at most NeXT ftp sites called GISO which can open
wav files and convert them to NeXT readable .au sounds (though you have to
figure out the best sounding way to do it from the available options and you
have to save the file with a .snd extension for other apps to be able to open
it).
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X?
==============================================================================
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Networking a NS Intel computer...
Date: 27 Jan 1994 18:56:23 GMT
Organization: GMI, Flint, MI
Message-ID: <2i92on$i6j@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Hello there,
I am planning to buy a computer running NSfI, and I have a few questions. At
work, we have a VMS network mostly running DECwindows apps. I was wondering
if it will be possible to network my computer as not only a client, but poss-
ibly a server also. ( I plan on getting the X libraries, if it makes a diff
erence.) Also, at school, we have a network of sparcs, running 4.1.3, soon to
upgrade to solaris 2.3. I don't know very much about ppp, but I think it is
sort of like slip. Will it be possible to use my computer as an X client?
Will I be able to act as a server also? Such as letting friends on the net
login into my machine. Replies by mail preferred. Thanks alot.
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_ ___ _
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____________________________________________________________________________
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From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sound file compatability
Date: 27 Jan 1994 13:01:24 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
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> Both NeXT .snd files and Sun .au files will play on
> the NeXT. To play the Sun files, all you needa do is
> change the .au to a .snd!
>
Not quite true: Sun have now implemented a compression scheme (ADPCM)
which is not supported by NeXT and is used in some of Sun's voice-mail,
for example.
I've written a conversion utility for anybody who wants it, else look
for yourself on
ftp.cwi.nl:/pub/audio/ccitt-adpcm.tar.Z.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
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From: emstech@improv.music.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ns3.1 or ns3.2 ?
Date: 27 Jan 1994 19:16:18 GMT
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Message-ID: <2i93u2$bqf@Chart.McRCIM.McGill.EDU>
We have a LAN of 10 NextStation, 7 on NS2.1, 1 on NS3.0 and 2 on NS3.1.
The server and the mail server are on NS2.1.
We want to upgrade all the machines to NS3.X version.
My problem is I don't know if we should go for NS3.1 or 3.2. In the past
we almost upgraded all of our machines to 3.0, but we found out that 2.1
was more reliable.
We now have two 3.1 systems they seem pretty okay.
I am just not sure that 3.2 is not another bad upgrade, like 3.0 was.
I will appreciate any comment that will help me decide which version I
should buy.
One ting is sure we can't stay with our NS2.1 system, most of the new
software won't work.
Will they be any major problem if NS3.0, 3.1 & 3.2 share the same LAN?
And at last, will the NextStep developer kit that came with 3.1 work on
3.2 ?
Thanks,
Alain
Mcgill University, Music Faculty
emstech@music.mcgill.ca
From: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean L. Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .Wav files playable on a NeXT
Date: 27 Jan 1994 21:55:18 GMT
Organization: Institut de Physiologie, Universite de Lausanne
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Could someone who has patched GISO to compile under 3.x post the
patches and/or put the new binary/source on the archives. I apologize
if it is already there. I can't seem to find it.
Sean L. Hill
Institut de Physiologie / Universite de Lausanne
Rue du Bugnon, 7
CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND
E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch NEXTMAIL: hill@iisnext1.unil.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocay
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: SoftPC on black hardware DISCONTINUED??!!??!!
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.194923.1423@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 19:49:23 GMT
I have been informed of this by the local importer of SoftPC. On the other hand
first they told me it did not exist. And it's running on my system in DEMO
mode. So it does seem to exist.
Is there anybody at all who has gotten a license for SoftPC 3 on black
hardware?
And does someone have the Insignia telehone (UK) numbers for me?
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
From: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Has anyone built "top" on NeXT
Date: 27 Jan 1994 21:05:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Waikato
Message-ID: <2i9abm$f6i@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz>
Keywords: top
top - is a program which displays information about the top cpu processes.
Available for most platforms but would require some hacking to get running
under NeXTStep. Has anyone done this ? (I know there are NeXT app
alternatives such as SysOb.app, but a terminal version would be very
useful in times of crisis).
Kerry Guise
From: csmith@gmu.edu (Christian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using GUI Mail and elm and/or pine
Date: 27 Jan 1994 14:49:32 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i8k9s$cpj@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I use Mail.app to read and send mail when I am on console, and also use
elm to read/send mail when I log in from home. Is there, does anyone
have, a simple program for creating mail files usable by both Mail.app and
elm (or pine)? Right now, I create a mail file in elm such as
~/Mail/received and then make a simbolic link to this file called
~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/received and then rename this link to
~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox. Things would be a little easier (but not
much) if elm and pine could handle writing to links, but they can't.
Invariably, both elm and pine create a new text file to replace the link.
All this is a pain, and creating a bunch at once is really tedious. Now I
don't mind it so much, but I am setting up another machine for my two
bosses and they will probably want to do mail in the exact same way. They
are not going to be enthused with having to do this and it will put a
serious cramp in my getting them off of the local VMS mail machine. These
guys handle 50-100 mail messages per day and using VMS mail is killing
them but they won't admit it.
Even a shell script that would do all this would be nice, but I don't know
anything about writing scripts, so flame me.
Chris
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Can you change the default app for any given file type?
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jan26223359@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: 27 Jan 94 03:33:58 GMT
References: <1994Jan24.180058.26018@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
<2i74pg$330@access1.digex.net>
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
In-Reply-To: rlion@access1.digex.net's message of 27 Jan 94 01:18:40 GMT
To: rlion@access1.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt)
Originator: news@nimaster
In article <2i74pg$330@access1.digex.net> rlion@access1.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt) writes:
In article <1994Jan24.180058.26018@beaver.cs.washington.edu>,
Daniel Fineman <fineman@cs.washington.edu> wrote:
>Hey all - i recently downloaded Emacs for NeXTStep, and i'd much
>rather have text files loaded into Emacs than Edit when you
>double-click on them. Can you change this somehow? I can't see a way
>to change any of this in the workspace preferences.... there's only
>one option for which app to open - how can you add another one?
under inspector (Workspace -> tools -> inspector) you can go to
contents and choose what to load up the program in.
Yep, but emacs won't ever show there (without the posted dwrite).
If you find that emacs is not loaded in as an option, then you can
try running the program (emacs) while you load it up. It sound
wierd, but I was trying to get SoundCheck.app to play sounds
instead of Sound.app and it wasn't on the list, so I tried a bunch
of stuff to get NeXTstep to recognize it and it seemed that
actually having the app runinng while i went to contents inspector
seemed to work..
Is it possible that a) SoundCheck.app was not in your Workspace
application path ? b) you have not logged out and in again since
installing SoundCheck.app ?
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kcchen@polyp.micro.umn.edu (kim chen)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Chinese Apps
Message-ID: <CKB8r2.4r0@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
References: <whFbwqe00VIdA=3ndV@andrew.cmu.edu> <2i8h76$374@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 22:45:41 GMT
Could you post more info. about chinese software package for Nextstep,
(especially NS/I).
How can I get them ? (commerical/free)
Thanx.
Kim Chen
In <2i8h76$374@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) writes:
>Ryan B. Troll (ry+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
>: I would like to demonstrate the multiple language ability of my NeXT
>: to a few friends, most of whom speak Mandarin Chinese. Does anybody
>: have any apps that operate in Chinese?
>: Or, better yet, a Chinese language package?
> There are some Chinese Apps like: CEdit, Longman dictionary
> ( English-to-Chinese dictionary),
> Paper ( for Desktop Publisher ), and CInput ( for Input Chinese )
> etc. But all of them are commerical.
> And there is one Free Chinese Postscript Font in FTP site.
>
>mark
>TwNUG ( Taiwan NeXT User Group )
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: HP/PA-RISC PDO - What does it run on?
Message-ID: <CKBHIp.9q@news.otago.ac.nz>
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
Organization: University of Otago
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 01:59:13 GMT
Having seen the HP 712 Gecko, I was wondering about whether or not
PDO will run on it. The original press release from HP/NeXT said that
PDO was targeted at the Series 800 servers rather than the 700
series. Simply put, will PDO run on the 700 series, in particular the
Gecko?
Thanks
Alastair
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From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WANTED::Mailing Labels APP
Message-ID: <CKBK35.Bz5@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: 28 Jan 94 02:50:31 GMT
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Im looking for an app to make use of the Laser Printer mailing labels
I bought. Anyone know where??
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jimbo@oingo.umn.edu (SLIP)
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From: dylan@Angst.COM (Dylan Kohler)
Subject: Re: scripts from terminal?
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.210031.22133@Angst.COM>
Sender: dylan@Angst.COM
Organization: Angst Animation Post Production
References: <2i6kiq$ljl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 21:00:31 GMT
In article <2i6kiq$ljl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu
(Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
> How can I avoid that this silly window pops up into my view everythime I
start
> a shell script?
>
When you set up your script in the Terminal Services window, switch the
popup from "Run Service in a Window" to "Run Service in the Background".
I hope this is what you were asking...
--
___________________________________
Dylan Kohler
Angst Animation Post Production
dylan@angst.com (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry)
Subject: Hypersense
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.023657.310@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu
Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 02:36:57 GMT
What's the name of the company which publishes Hypersense?
Also, does anyone have their email address?
Thanks!
--
Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What font packages are available these days?
Date: 28 Jan 1994 03:15:03 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2i9vvn$tl@usenet.rpi.edu>
Back when I got my NeXTstation, I bought the Adobe Plus Pack
from NeXTconnection. This gave me all the fonts that a
standard laserwriter has, but which NeXT doesn't ship in
their default set.
Is that package still available these days? I'll probably
be interested in fonts for my NS/Intel machine, assuming
the PC I'm interested in ever gets certified for NS/Intel...
The NeXT FAQ list claims that RightBrain still distributes
fonts for NeXTSTEP, but clearly that isn't true these days.
And if I remember right, they didn't have the Plus Pack
back when they did handle most Adobe fonts for NeXTSTEP.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: mb@orchard.Princeton.EDU (Matthias Blumrich)
Subject: WANTED: network sound playing info
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.233810.12210@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 23:38:10 GMT
Hi. If I'm logged onto a NeXT machine, is there a way to play a sound
remotely on a different NeXT machine? I tried logging in to the remote
machine, but sndplay wouldn't run. Please send responses to
mb@cs.princeton.edu. Thanks!
- Matt -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark)
Subject: Re: WANTED::Mailing Labels APP
Message-ID: <CKBnI1.54x@is.com>
Sender: pclark@is.com (Peter Clark)
Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc.
References: <CKBK35.Bz5@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 04:08:25 GMT
In article <CKBK35.Bz5@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
> Im looking for an app to make use of the Laser Printer mailing labels
> I bought. Anyone know where??
Try StayInTouch. Good app, good price. Email to info@SmartSoft.COM for
more info and pricing.
Best,
Pete C
--
*********************************************************************
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Integrity Solutions, Inc. | you always are?
pclark@is.com NeXTMail preferred | Don't be that way.
From: cswoyer@hellcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Swoyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Automatic redialing with COMMUNICAE
Date: 28 Jan 1994 06:51:57 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Message-ID: <2iacmd$997@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
I use communicae for telecommunications (mainly to dial in from my
NeXT at home to a Big Nasty Dec on campus that is connected to the
Internet). It's harder and harder to get a connection these days. Is
there any way to get Communicae to cycle through attempts to get a
connection, say trying for 30 seconds to get a connection,
disconnecting, then trying again on its own in this way until it makes
contact. Then I could let it do all this in the background. My old
shareware, procomm, was smart enough to do that on my 8088. Is
Communicae?
Thanks for any help
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische)
Subject: Re: scripts from terminal?
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.143605.1376@lkba.uucp>
Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische)
Organization: LKB Associates, Inc.
References: <2i6kiq$ljl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:36:05 GMT
In article <2i6kiq$ljl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu
(Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
> How can I avoid that this silly window pops up into my view everythime I
start
> a shell script?
Where do you want stardard in, out and error to go?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Goetz.von-Escher@open.ch (Goetz von Escher)
Subject: Re: Where to find TypingCzar
Message-ID: <CKB52x.872@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
References: <CK7tx3.HwF@kaiwan.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 21:30:32 GMT
In article <CK7tx3.HwF@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
writes:
> I saw a posting the other day offering a nice low price on an app called
> Typing Czar. I just set my young kids up with a NeXT and would like to have
> a good typing app for them. Anyone remember the deal? It was like $49 for
> the thing. If anyone has the address, I'd appreciate a note.
>
> thanks,
> -Chip
Try <info@talus.com>. They sent me a demo copy a few months ago...
-Goetz
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Window Sound System driver source needed
Date: 28 Jan 1994 08:17:16 +0200
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2iaalc$mb8@cc.tut.fi>
I'm writing a driver for Crystal's CS4231 codec chip and found out that
WSS driver uses it correctly. However 4231 has some advanced functions
over the standard WSS spesifications (ADPCM coding/decoding) and I need to
use these features. So the easiest way to solve the problem is to sligthly
modify WSS driver source, but it's not included with NSi3.2. Could it be
available from NeXT at all? Where should I ask it? Phone numbers,
e-mail addresses, fax numbers and emails are welcome. I need this info
as soon as possible.
-Juha
--
Doctor, doctor! I suck. You've gotta help me.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .Wav files playable on a NeXT
Date: 27 Jan 1994 23:09:09 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2i9hil$3oc@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2i7ks4$9f7@portal.gmu.edu> <2i8ur9$9a@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <2i7ks4$9f7@portal.gmu.edu> csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian
>Smith) writes:
>
>> Are there any programs out there that will play .Wav files on a NeXT.
>> ..Wav files are a PC sound format.
>
>There is a program available at most NeXT ftp sites called GISO which can open
>wav files and convert them to NeXT readable .au sounds (though you have to
>figure out the best sounding way to do it from the available options and you
>have to save the file with a .snd extension for other apps to be able to open
>it).
I did this just the other week when I uploaded the Doom sounds to
cs.orst.edu. (DoomSounds.compressed)
Go and get SOX, I believe GISO is a front end to the command line tool
SOX which performs the conversion. Archie will tell you where it's
located. (I think I used SOX7 under NS3.1 compiled with one or two
changes)
SOX(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual SOX(1)
NAME
sox - SOund eXchange - universal sound sample translator
SYNOPSIS
sox infile outfile
sox infile outfile [ effect [ effect options ... ] ]
sox infile -e effect [ effect options ... ]
sox [ general options ] [ format options ] ifile [ format
options ] ofile [ effect [ effect options ... ] ]
General options: [ -V ] [ -v volume ]
Format options: [ -t filetype ] [ -r rate ] [ -s/-u/-U/-A ]
[ -b/-w/-l/-f/-d/-D ] [ -c channels ] [ -x ]
Effects:
copy
rate
avg
stat
echo delay volume [ delay volume ... ]
vibro speed [ depth ]
lowp center
band [ -n ] center [ width ]
DESCRIPTION
Sox translates sound files from one format to another, pos-
sibly doing a sound effect.
---
FILE TYPES
Sox needs to know the formats of the input and output files.
File formats which have headers are checked, if that header
doesn't seem right, the program exits with an appropriate
message. Currently, the raw (no header), IRCAM Sound Files,
Sound Blaster, SPARC .AU (w/header), Mac HCOM, PC/DOS .SOU,
Sndtool, and Sounder, NeXT .SND, Windows 3.1 RIFF/WAV, Tur-
tle Beach .SMP, and Apple/SGI AIFF and 8SVX formats are sup-
ported.
For sounds you should also grab excellent FAQ in alt.binaries.sounds.
It has a lot of NeXT sound specific information in it.
>
>--
>==============================================================================
> Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
> If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X?
>==============================================================================
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From: Erik Dasque
Subject: Re: Where to find TypingCzar
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.082834.4214@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
References: <CK7tx3.HwF@kaiwan.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 08:28:34 GMT
In article <CK7tx3.HwF@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
writes:
> I saw a posting the other day offering a nice low price on an app called
> Typing Czar. I just set my young kids up with a NeXT and would like to
have
> a good typing app for them. Anyone remember the deal? It was like $49
for
> the thing. If anyone has the address, I'd appreciate a note.
>
> thanks,
> -Chip
>
You can contact Talus at info@talus.com or steve@talus.com
If I recall well, their number is 713 561 0700 (fax : 561-5428)
Just don't tell them Dallas made it to the Superbowl and Houston didn't
make it to the conference finals...
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy" only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@joker.fdn.org "Microsoft doesn't exist."
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From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Webster daemon
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.052529.11128@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 05:25:29 GMT
I'm posting this for a friend at a college having a departmental network
made up of 1 NeXT and several other computers. Has anybody built the
webster daemon on the NeXT and used it to provide lookup for the other
comuputers? How do you build it. It requires libraries that he can't find
on the NeXT. Is it available somewhere prebuilt?
Thanx for all advice.
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From: me@canis.metaworks.de (Ralf Canis)
Subject: Re: CD NOVA
Message-ID: <CKAzw3.A0@canis.metaworks.de>
Sender: me@canis.metaworks.de (Ralf Canis)
References: <1994Jan26.085854.1881@xlan.fdn.org>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 19:38:26 GMT
In article <1994Jan26.085854.1881@xlan.fdn.org> hgromard@xlan.fdn.org
(Herve de Gromard) writes:
> We are a French NeXT VAR, and we want to by CD Nova.
>
> Is anybody be kind enough to tell us the adress and/or phone / fax /
> emeail of the editor or distributor.
NOVA
CD-ROM
For the NeXT Workstation
Walnut Creek CDROM
1547 Palos Verdes Mall
Suite 260
Walnut Creek, CA 94596
+1-510-947-5996
+1-510-947-1644 FAX
From: marcus@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Common Lisp
Date: 28 Jan 1994 01:45:36 -0800
Message-ID: <2iams0$264@ursula.ee.pdx.edu>
References: <2huqrc$ne2@ccrwest.ccrwest.org>
Keywords: Common Lisp, Gnu
dgc@ccrwest.org (David G. Cantor) writes:
>Has anyone succeed in compiling Gnu common Lisp (clisp) on NeXT System
>3.2?
...
>anonymous ftp from ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.115.2],
CLISP runs on Motorola 3.2, and (at least) compiles to Intel.
fat binaries are available on ma2s2 /pub/lisp/clisp/binaries/next.
Recompilation of the image files will be necessary for use with
Intel. If the binaries work on Intel, it would probably be easier to
rebuild entirely from source (if you do this, let please me (marcus@ee.pdx.edu)
know, so I can update the documentation).
Thanks,
Marcus Daniels
From: wilkie@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOTS demo behaving erratically
Date: 28 Jan 1994 12:24:22 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <2ib05m$4u2@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Recently I downloaded the demo of DOTS from cs.orst. The
Problem is that it only prints one page correctly and
from then on only garbage. The printer used is a HP DJ 500C
with white hardware. Has anyone had similar problems?
Please tell
A.W.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos)
Subject: Hot keyed keyboard to load custom keyboard mappings????
Message-ID: <CKCAM0.5wz@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 12:27:35 GMT
Does anybody know of a way to make some keys "hot" so when they are pressed
they load a particular xxx.keymapping without having to use the "use" button of
the "Keyboard.app" ???
I guess my question can be parsed to two questions:
1. Is there any "hot key" and any keyboard macro capability in NeXTSTEP 3.x on
black hardware?
2. How does one load in software a " xxxx.keymapping" to take effect on the
keyboard (something that the Keyboard.app is obviously doing)?
I would greatly appreciate any help you can send me
Thanks
--john m.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: leene@nex001 (Arnaud Leene)
Subject: Viedotex-software
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.123855.10830@news.research.ptt.nl>
Sender: usenet@news.research.ptt.nl (USEnet News)
Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 12:38:55 GMT
Is there any videotex-software (Prestel & Teletel) software available?
Arnaud
Dr. Arnaud Leene !!!!NeXTmail Welcome!!!!
PTT Research Tele-informatics
Post: P.O. Box 15000, 9700 CD Groningen.
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Email (X.400): C=NL;A=400Net;P=PTT Research;S=Leene
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: HP/PA-RISC PDO - What does it run on?
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.134552.8216@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <CKBHIp.9q@news.otago.ac.nz>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 13:45:52 GMT
In article <CKBHIp.9q@news.otago.ac.nz> alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz writes:
>>
>>Having seen the HP 712 Gecko, I was wondering about whether or not
>>PDO will run on it. The original press release from HP/NeXT said that
>>PDO was targeted at the Series 800 servers rather than the 700
>>series. Simply put, will PDO run on the 700 series, in particular the
>>Gecko?
>>
From my experience in the HP-UX world, Series 800 code is binary compatible
with the Series 700 (although the reverse is not true), so I doubt there
would be any problem.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: What font packages are available these days?
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.120131.21780@hot.com>
Keywords: fonts
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <2i9vvn$tl@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 12:01:31 GMT
Henry McGilton's company, Trilithon Software now carries all Adobe
fonts for NEXTSTEP. Contact info@trilithon.com. He's a really nice
guy to do business with.
Paget Press (info@paget.com) also carries some non-Adobe fonts. Some
selling for $25. I recently purchased the Font Company's Pepita font
from Paget's Electronic AppWrapper. While it didn't have screen
bitmaps, you can't go wrong at $25 per typeface.
WSI also sells fonts but I don't have their contact information
handy.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <2i9vvn$tl@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
(Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
> Back when I got my NeXTstation, I bought the Adobe Plus Pack
> from NeXTconnection. This gave me all the fonts that a
> standard laserwriter has, but which NeXT doesn't ship in
> their default set.
>
> Is that package still available these days? I'll probably
> be interested in fonts for my NS/Intel machine, assuming
> the PC I'm interested in ever gets certified for NS/Intel...
>
> The NeXT FAQ list claims that RightBrain still distributes
> fonts for NeXTSTEP, but clearly that isn't true these days.
> And if I remember right, they didn't have the Plus Pack
> back when they did handle most Adobe fonts for NeXTSTEP.
>
> --
> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
> ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: vdemarco@bou.shl.com (Vince Demarco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sendmail on NS 3.0
Date: 28 Jan 1994 09:12:10 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401281510.AA09122@ico.isc.com>
Just to set the record straight sendmail 8.6.X compiles right out of
the box under NEXTSTEP. (I helped do the port)
I also added some preliminary netinfo support to the program. The
code to look up the values of properties in the netinfo database has
been written and integerated into the program (src/conf.c).
But the only netinfo support that is present is finding the location
of the sendmail.cf file from the netinfo database.
If someone adds the missing code please send your changes to the
sendmail author so they are integrated into the next sendmail
release.
BTW the latest sendmail is on
mammoth.CS.Berkeley.EDU :/ucb/sendmail
vince demarco
vdemarco@bou.shl.com
From: info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What font packages are available these days?
Date: 28 Jan 1994 16:12:50 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ibdi3$qsh@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2i9vvn$tl@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <2i9vvn$tl@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
> The NeXT FAQ list claims that RightBrain still distributes
> fonts for NeXTSTEP, but clearly that isn't true these days.
> And if I remember right, they didn't have the Plus Pack
> back when they did handle most Adobe fonts for NeXTSTEP.
>
> --
> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
> ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
I will try to get a definitive answer from either Adobe or Glenn Reid as I
hope to discuss this matter with one or both of them today. If you are
interested in fonts and you own Mac Type one fonts, I would suggest using
MetroTools or a similar utility such as Metamorphosis on the Mac to
translate/install them on your black or white hardware.
Dave
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[Voice]
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From: info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where to find TypingCzar
Date: 28 Jan 1994 16:14:14 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ibdkm$qvj@inxs.concert.net>
References: <1994Jan28.082834.4214@joker.fdn.org>
In article <1994Jan28.082834.4214@joker.fdn.org> Erik Dasque writes:
> In article <CK7tx3.HwF@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
> writes:
> > I saw a posting the other day offering a nice low price on an app
called
> > Typing Czar. I just set my young kids up with a NeXT and would like
to
> have
> > a good typing app for them. Anyone remember the deal? It was like
$49
> for
> > the thing. If anyone has the address, I'd appreciate a note.
>
Try Alembic at info@alembic.com in Denver, they are distributing a slew on
NeXTSTEP software as well as building there own box to run NSFIP.
Dave
--
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[Voice]
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[Fax]
NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rob@ai.iit.nrc.ca (Rob Wylie)
Subject: PPP?
Message-ID: <ROB.94Jan28122315@ksl09.ai.iit.nrc.ca>
Sender: root@nrcnet0.nrc.ca (Operator)
Organization: National Research Council of Canada
Date: 28 Jan 94 12:23:15
A couple of simple (I hope) questions about PPP on the NeXT
1) is Miron Cuperman's ppp-0.3 the most current PD version of PPP for
the NeXT?
2) is it a port of ppp-1.1 or ppp-1.2 or ppp-2.0 and why the anomaly
in version numbers)?
3) has anyone run it opposite ppp-2.0 (Brad Parker and then Paul
Mackerras) on a sun?
Thanks,
Rob Wylie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Subject: SUMMARY : NewsGrazer, Unable to Post
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.172837.72020@yuma>
Date: 28 Jan 94 17:28:37 GMT
Keywords: newsgrazer post summary
original problem:
i've discovered, with a recent rash of problems, that
since the upgrade to 3.2 of our black machines, we
cannot post with NewsGrazer.
solution:
it seems that during the week i installed 3.2 on all of our
machines, the admin of our nntp server did some updates
of their own which messed up all of our posting capabilities.
they caught the problem and fixed it yesterday and once
again, we can post! it's miller time.
thanks to all who responded!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: federico@heinz.in-berlin.de (Federico Heinz)
Subject: Re: DOTS demo behaving erratically (parallel port driver broken)
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.173945.233@dart.de>
Sender: federico@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Software GmbH
References: <2ib05m$4u2@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 17:39:45 GMT
In article <2ib05m$4u2@email.tuwien.ac.at>
wilkie@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Alexander Wilkie) writes:
> Recently I downloaded the demo of DOTS from cs.orst. The
> Problem is that it only prints one page correctly and
> from then on only garbage. The printer used is a HP DJ
> 500C with white hardware. Has anyone had similar problems?
> Please tell
We have had reports from some customers that had similar problems with white
hardware, and each of them had different symptoms. What all reported problems
have in common is that they are using the parallel port to attach the
printer, just as everybody would. If you switch to the serial port, the
problem will go away (provided you get the right cable, one with DTR flow
control).
I've taken a very close look into the problem, and it seems that NEXTSTEP
3.2's parallel port driver doesn't work properly. On *some* machines it seems
to work OK, but I've tried it on two different Intel GX workstations and
several printers around here, and just trying to execute
cat TestFile >/dev/pp0
prints part of the file, then produces the error message ``cat: write error:
Error 0'' On some rare occasions, it will print the complete file, but it
doesn't happen very often.
There again, on some other configurations the bug doesn't seem to bite. I
guess that's the dark side of ``having the choice to buy from dozens of
vendors.''
We have reported this problem to NeXT, and we hope to have some news on this
soon. In the meantime, and since I only get to read the bad news, I'd like to
find out whether there are any *success* stories regarding the parallel port.
What's weird about all this is that I never had any problems with 3.1's
``buggy'' driver, but 3.2's ``enhanced'' doesn't work for me... Anyway, if
you had any success connecting a printer through the parallel port, please
drop me an e-mail message, I'll summarize if there are people think it
interesting.
Federico Heinz
DISCLAIMER: Dots is my kid.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: SysV curses for NeXT...
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.132354.849@gamelan>
Sender: thomas@gamelan (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <1994Jan25.204953.14602@sol.UVic.CA>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 13:23:54 GMT
In article <1994Jan25.204953.14602@sol.UVic.CA>
mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly) writes:
> A while ago, someone mentioned that they'd done a NeXT port of
> SysV curses.
>
> Where is this archived?
>
ncurses1.8, archived on all major NeXT-sites.
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Brooks's Law:
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From: ramsch@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Martin Ramsch)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.headers,comp.multimedia,uni-passau.rz.next,bit.listserv.next-l,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: How can I display NeXT Mail under SusOS?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 28 Jan 1994 19:37:45 GMT
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ibpi9INNf12@tom.rz.uni-passau.de>
Hello,
does somebody know a way to view NeXT Mail on a SUN sparc workstation
or a possibility to convert a NeXT Mail into a MIME compliant email?
Any help very much appreciated!
Thanks a lot in advance!
--
BTW Followup-To: is set to poster, so even Followups get sent to me
via email. If somebody is interested in the answers, that I get, please
write me. I could post the results, if there's enough interest (but
not in so many newsgroups, of course ;-).
_ // Martin Ramsch (ae=ä oe=ö ue=ü ss=ß)
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PGP public key can be received via finger -l ramsch@forwiss.uni-passau.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: Re: OCR Software
Message-ID: <CKCMFI.83q@beach.com>
Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
References: <1hschulz.759673356@rzdspc4>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 16:42:53 GMT
In article <1hschulz.759673356@rzdspc4>
1hschulz@rzdspc4.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Heiko Schulz) writes:
> dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) writes:
>
> >Yes, OCR Servant. Here is complete info:
>
> >Product Name: OCR Servant
> >List Price: $295.00
> >Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
>
> >Product description: [deleted]
>
> Will there be a rapid sell out - like HSDSpell - here too??
> It's sort of frustrating to buy a product, just to find it
> three days later at about 15% the price.
>
> Heiko
No, the reason for the HSD Spell "sell-out" was clearly stated in the
original message. Simply put, we had several hundred packages of HSD
Spell that were already duplicated onto disks that could only be used
in "Black" hardware. Rather than opening packages and re-duplicating
disks, we decided to offer the product at a great price. This is not
the case with OCR Servant.
Further, if you (or any other customer) purchased HSD Spell at the
retail price within the past 30 days, we will gladly refund the
difference between the sale price and the price you paid.
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Ph. (408) 774-1400
Fax (408) 774-1402
Email: dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTMail)
--
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: ** HSD SPELL FOR NeXT COMPUTERS-- ONLY $19.95 ***
Message-ID: <CKCMJw.85D@beach.com>
Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 16:45:32 GMT
*** HSD SPELL FOR NeXT "BLACK" HARDWARE--ONLY $19.95 ***
HSD currently has excess inventory of HSD SPELL for NeXT "black"
hardware, running NS 3.0 or higher. As our fiscal year comes to an
end, we are offering these copies of HSD SPELL, while supplies last,
at the discount price of $19.95 per copy, plus shipping and handling.
*** INCLUDES ENGLISH (U.K. & U.S.) AND ONE OTHER LANGUAGE ***
HSD Spell is the international spelling software for NEXTSTEP that
automatically integrates multiple language spelling capabilities into
your existing applications. HSD spell can also be used as a
stand-alone application or accessed as a "Service" from other
applications.
HSD Spell supports 11 international languages including Danish,
Dutch, English (U.S. and U.K), Finnish, French, German, Italian,
Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish and Swedish.
(Press release with additional info at end of message.)
*** WHY ONLY $19.95? ***
Previously, HSD SPELL was shipped on two extended density (2.8MB
each) disks, which can only be used in a NeXT computer. Rather than
opening the packages and duplicating new disks which can be used on
Intel based computers as well, we've decided to offer them as they
are for use on "black" hardware and pass the savings on to you. This
is a one-time opportunity to purchase the leading spell checker for
NEXTSTEP at an incredibly low price.
*** NEXTSTEP INTEL USERS CAN SAVE TOO--$49 UPGRADE ***
The retail price for the Intel version of HSD SPELL is $149, but
registered owners of HSD SPELL for "black" hardware can purchase the
upgrade for only $49. Total cost for the Intel version during this
offer is $68.95, a savings of over 50%!
Orders will be filled on a first-come, first-served basis, while
supplies last. To order, complete the information below and mail or
fax your order to HSD at:
Email: sales@hsd.com
Fax: (408) 774-1402
Phone: (408) 774-1400
Shipping and Billing Information:
Company Name: ____________________________________
Contact Name: ____________________________________
Address: _________________________________________
Address: _________________________________________
City: ____________________________________________
State: ___________________________________________
Postal Code: _____________________________________
Country: _________________________________________
Phone: ___________________________________________
Fax: _____________________________________________
Email: ___________________________________________
Product and Quantity:
HSD SPELL FOR BLACK HARDWARE ______ @ $19.95
HSD SPELL FOR INTEL UPGRADE ______ @ $49.00
Shipping--$4.95 per copy.
Method of Payment:
Credit Card: (Visa, MasterCard or Amex)
Card Number: _____________________________________
Name on Card: ____________________________________
Expiration Date: ________________________________
COD Company Check or Cashiers Check ______________
------------------- HSD SPELL PRODUCT INFO ----------------------
SUNNYVALE, January 24, 1994 HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. today
announced a special promotional price of $19.95 for HSD Spell, its
international spell checker for NEXTSTEP that supports 11
languages.The version being offered at the promotional price can be
used on NeXT computers running NEXTSTEP 3.0 or higher. NEXTSTEP Intel
user can purchase an upgrade for $49.
HSD SPELL has a suggested retail price is $149, which includes two
language dictionaries--English (U.K. and U.S.) and one other.
Additional languages can be purchased for $99 each. Languages
currently supported include Danish, Dutch, English (U.K. and U.S.),
Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish and
Swedish.
The version of HSD Spell being offered at the promotional price is
shipped on two extended density disks which contain the HSD Spell
application and all 11 language dictionaries. The HSD Spell
application menu contains a choice for installing additional
languages, which can be unlocked after purchasing an activation code
from HSD.
HSD President David Peter noted that HSD Spell is tightly integrated
into the NeXTSTEP 3.0 (or higher) operating system so that users can
check spelling directly from the spelling panel built into most
NEXTSTEP applications. Many applications utilize the speller built
into NeXTSTEP 3.0 or higher. HSD Spell automatically incorporates
installed languages into this panel so they can be accessed
directly, Peter said. In applications that do not support the
NeXTSTEP speller, text can be imported via the Services menu into
the HSD Spell application to check spelling or perform a variety of
common text editing functions.
HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. was founded in 1989 and has offices in
Sunnyvale and San Diego. Today HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc is a
leading supplier of hardware and software products for Macintosh and
NEXTSTEP. HSD's main office is located at 1095 East Duane Ave., Suite
209, Sunnyvale, CA 94086. Phone (408) 774-1400, Fax (408) 774-1402,
Email: sales@hsd.com.
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Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: ** Pixel Magician and Image Agent--$149 **
Message-ID: <CKCMoF.88y@beach.com>
Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 16:48:15 GMT
****LIMITED TIME OFFER****
HSD OFFERS PIXEL MAGICIAN AND IMAGE AGENT FREE WITH SCANNER SYSTEMS
CURRENT SCANNER OWNERS CAN PURCHASE PIXEL MAG/IMAGE AGENT FOR $149
*****CALL 1 (800) 828-5522 TO ORDER*****
HSD today announced a promotion to include a FREE copy of the
single-user version of Bacchus Inc.'s award-winning Pixel Magician
and Image Agent software with each scanner system purchased from HSD
through February, 1994. Complete product info is at the end of this
message.
HSD also announced an exclusive offer for current owners of HSD and
Umax scanners to purchase a single-user copy of Pixel Magician/Image
Agent directly from HSD for the reduced price of $149 (retail $299)
during the promotion. This price is only available for orders placed
directly through HSD and not from Bacchus.
In addition, during the promotion HSD is reducing the retail prices
of all 24-bit color scanner systems it is currently offering. The new
prices are listed below:
Scanner Old Retail New Retail Bundled Software
Umax UC 630 $1495 $1295 Pixel Mag/Image Agent
Umax UC 840 $1695 $1495 Pixel Mag/Image Agent
Umax UC 1260 $2495 $1995 Pixel Mag/Image Agent
All scanners are shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Package
which includes three powerful scanning applications for computers
running NEXTSTEP: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation;
PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner
and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based
application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a
paper fax machine.
Each scanner system includes the following:
- 24-bit Color Scanner
- PowerScan Professional (PowerScan 2.0, PowerCopy, PowerFax)
- Pixel Magician and Image Agent
- Cable, terminator, power cord
- One-year warranty
- Available in 110v and 220v
When ordering, please provide the following information:
Shipping and Billing Information:
Company Name: ____________________________________
Contact Name: ____________________________________
Address: _________________________________________
Address: _________________________________________
City: ____________________________________________
State: ___________________________________________
Postal Code: _____________________________________
Country: _________________________________________
Phone: ___________________________________________
Fax: _____________________________________________
Email: ___________________________________________
Product and Quantity:
UC630 ______ @ $1295 (Includes FREE Software)
UC840 ______ @ $1495 (Includes FREE Software)
UC1260______ @ $1995 (Includes FREE Software)
Pixel Magician/Image Agent Only ______ @ $149
Scanner Serial Number(s) _________________________
Please provide your HSD or Umax scanner serial number if you are
ordering only Pixel Magician and Image Agent.
Version of NEXTSTEP you are using:
NEXTSTEP 3.0 or lower: ___________________________
NEXTSTEP 3.1 or higher: ___________________________
Method of Payment:
Credit Card: (Visa, MasterCard or Amex)
Card Number: _____________________________________
Name on Card: ____________________________________
Expiration Date: ________________________________
COD Company Check or Cashiers Check ______________
Terms available upon prior written authorization from HSD.
Shipping is Collect
Please fax or email your order to HSD at:
Email: sales@hsd.com
Fax: (408) 774-1402
-------------------------------------------
Pixel Magician Product Info:
Pixel Magician, the advanced image conversion application for
NEXTSTEP.
Pixel Magician converts to and from all the popular image file
formats: TIFF, GIF, PICT, PCX, DCX, RIB, JPEG, TARGA, PS, EPS,
Windows BMP, Sun Raster, FAX, IFF/ILBM, MacPaint, XBM, XWD and MTV.
Use the automated capabilities of the convert window to view, scale,
rotate, quantize and convert an entire directory of image files with
a single mouse click.
Features: Mass image conversion, Image viewing, PostScript to Raster,
Color Quantization, Error Diffusion Dithering, paletted formats,
Precise scaling and rotating, variable aspect ratios and image
resolutions, alpha channel support, image aliases, thumbnail views
and flexible output options.
Image Agent:
With Image Agent users can simply drag and drop non-native image
files directly into NEXTSTEP applications, such as Diagram! 2,
Concurrence, Pages, TIFFany II, Wetpaint, Create, and have the images
instantly appear. Image Agent transparently performs the image
conversion as if it were part of the actual application in use.
Supported image formats include: TIFF, GIF, PS, EPS, TARGA, PICT,
MacPaint, PCX, DCX, Windows BMP, MTV, IFF/ILBM, Sun Raster, JPEG
(JFIF), XWD, XBM and others.
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Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
From: Kwan-Ju Chen <kc2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextStep supports IBM token ring??
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 13:59:27 -0500
Organization: Senior, IM - H&SS Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <YhGK2DS00iV8M6fb8O@andrew.cmu.edu>
Will IBM tokenring work??
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: Nextstep HTML Editor
Message-ID: <YCHLB6KG@math.fu-berlin.de>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 21:33:49 GMT
Is anyone interested in trying out a simple HTML editor I am developing? The
current version isn't fancy, but it does provide quick access to all the HTML
tags, plus a separate panel for inserting ISO Latin 1 characters. I should
be ready to release this early version next week. This app is for Nextstep.
I am interested in getting feedback so if you have time to try it out and
e-mail me with suggestions, comments, or constructive criticism, reply to this
message and I'll Nextmail a FAT version to you. Thanks.
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From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: Interface Builder Problems! Help!!
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.193039.17000@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 19:30:39 GMT
Help!!! My Interface Builder's gone psycho on me!
It's suddenly started giving me these error messages:
This appears in my console window
Jan 28 11:46:48 raddi InterfaceBuilder[687]: An uncaught exception was
raised
Jan 28 11:46:48 raddi InterfaceBuilder[687]: Unknown error code 314159 in
NXReportError
and this appears in an alert panel when I launch InterfaceBuilder
Runtime Error: NXReadOnlyString : does not recognize selector
-replaceWith:.
and then it quits. This only happens when I try to run it though. If
someone else runs it, it works fine, although it hangs if you try to add
or remove a palette. This all started when I installed MiscKit and went
to look at the palettes with IB. Well, that's when I first noticed
something was wrong with IB anyway. I'm not saying that MiscKit caused it
or anything.
I'm running NS3.0 on a non-turbo black slab.
I've tried a complete reinstall of the Dev package from the CD, but it
didn't help. I even deleted the Dev package and reinstalled it too, but
no success.
Anyone out there have any bright ideas? I'm all out.
Thanks alot
eugene
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From: mohenly@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Michael O'Henly)
Subject: ncurses for NS3.0...
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.055715.29992@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Distribution: inet
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 05:57:15 GMT
Thanks to the folks who pointed me to ncurses1.8 (the SysV-style
curses package). Unfortunately, it was ported to NS3.1 and I have 3.0.
I assume the problems I'm having compiling it have to do with the
change in the location of header files. Before I mess with this too
much, has anyone already compiled ncurses under 3.0?
If you have and can walk me through, I'd be most grateful.
Thanks!
Michael
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From: janna@reliant.bsd.uchicago.edu (& Ore Nugent)
Subject: Sybase connection in SoftPC Windows?
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.220314.12664@midway.uchicago.edu>
Keywords: SoftPC, Sybase
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 22:03:14 GMT
I'm trying to set up a sybase connection between SoftPC/Windows running on
a NeXTSTEP 3.2 Intel machine and a Sun server. Both machines are on a
TCP/IP network. Has anyone gotten this to work or have reason to believe
it should work?
SoftPC is set-up to use a Novell driver, yet can see the drives I've
mounted on NeXTSTEP via NFS. Can I use this NeXTSTEP - SoftPC
communication to work for sybase as well?
Any and all info/ideas apprieciated,
Janna Ore Nugent
Biological Sciences Division
The University of Chicago
"Tiger gotta hunt. Bird gotta fly.
Man gotta sit and wonder why, why, why.
Tiger gotta sleep. Bird gotta land.
Man gotta tell himself he understand."
- Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: scripts from terminal?
Date: 28 Jan 1994 23:11:34 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ic637$ptc@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <1994Jan27.143605.1376@lkba.uucp>
In article <2i6kiq$ljl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu
(Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
> How can I avoid that this silly window pops up into my view
> everythime I start a shell script?
Clever trick #1237.
I assume you are referring to the fact that whenever you double-click
on an executable shell script (e.g., foo.csh) it launches it inside a
Terminal window. The best workaround is to _rename_ the file to
filetype ".daemon" (e.g., foo.daemon). Then, when it is clicked, it
will run *in the background* - not a terminal window! (output goes to
Console).
Hope this helps,
- Ernie P.
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CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu
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#import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: info@barkley.absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Resetting permissions defaults SYSTEM WIDE
Date: 28 Jan 1994 23:12:49 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ic65h$44e@inxs.concert.net>
I am having permissions trouble on my Cubes and I'd like to reset permissions
system-wide to their original state.
What is the easiest way to accomplish this?
Dave
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From: dave@sashimi.wwa.com (David Vrona)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: test
Date: 28 Jan 1994 12:59:56 -0600
Organization: Computing Engineers Inc. Home of WorldWide Access (SM)
Message-ID: <2ibnbc$10m@sashimi.wwa.com>
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Send e-mail to info@wwa.com for information, or call +1 708 367 1871 (data).
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From: stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn)
Subject: Pinnacle Research Chapter 11??
Message-ID: <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com>
Sender: news@pts.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 20:29:59 GMT
Anyone know what happened to Pinnacle, authors of Pagechain, Transfer,
etc...? I've been trying to order products from the for two months haven't
succeeded (no answer, etc...)
Maybe there wares are being sold elsewhere. There's nothing like the
musical shrink wrap in the NeXT community to keep you on your tows when
you need updates or new products. (I like to think of it as preparation
for tomorrow's cyberspace when no one will care who ships them the
product, you just ask for it, and the cheapest priced outlet ships it to
you)
Cheers Everyone,
Stu
------------------------------------------------------------
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Motorola Inc.
Applied Research MS 71
1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue
Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292
(407)-364-3997
(407)-364-3904 (FAX)
stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com [NeXTMail preferred]
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Subject: SLIP for NS/Intel, and CD-Player .
Message-ID: <nemiroal.46.000B944D@bus.orst.edu>
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 11:34:40
Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis
Hello Again,
Is there a version of SLIP for NS/I? All Slip packages that I have come
across are binary onlys for Motorola.
In addition, Does anyone know of any CD-Players that play out of the ProAudio
Spectrum 16 under NS/Intel?
thanks in advance.
send e-mail to
nemiroal@ece.orst.edu
thank you.
From: begonia@abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What font packages are available these days?
Date: 29 Jan 1994 00:35:53 GMT
Organization: Abstract Software
Message-ID: <2icb19$l8a@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <2i9vvn$tl@usenet.rpi.edu> <1994Jan28.120131.21780@hot.com>
Keywords: fonts
In article <1994Jan28.120131.21780@hot.com> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes:
>WSI also sells fonts but I don't have their contact information
>handy.
We at Abstract Software sell WSI-Fonts, a collection of 123 fonts for
NeXTSTEP.
If you have questions you can reach us via e-mail at
info@abstractsoft.com or by calling 206/361-5080.
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Abstract Software P.O. Box 25045 Seattle, WA 98125 206/361-5080
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From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: Cost of setting up a cube as a printer for a mac net?
Message-ID: <1994Jan29.050419.21355@seas.smu.edu>
Sender: news@seas.smu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 05:04:19 GMT
I am thinking of either selling my 040 cube/printer to purchase some mac
equipment or keeping the stuff, buying a cheap next color printer and
using the thing as a dedicated printer for a new mac. What I need to know
is how the cost benefit works out. What I can figure out, I think I can
get $3k for a NeXT 040 16/660 w/ fax modem, 2.88 ED, MOD & Laser (is that
reasonable?) What I am wondering is if I would end up better off selling,
or keeping the unit adding a color printer ($350-500) and using it as a
dedicated printer but I am not sure how this would work. I am sure this would
be a compatibility nightmare. I've tried to use IPT's software to connect
the mac & NeXT, but to no avail. The two simply couldn't see eye to eye.
(BTW, I am using 3.0 os) Would I need to buy extra hardware for either machine?
I am not to fond sinking more $$$ into my cube, but if the amount is nominal,
I suppose it would be okay. I figure I am saving $1,700 by dumping the
cube, though I hate to see it go after all these years (I bought it in 1990).
Second, if I can fandango this cube to be a smart printer, I'll have both
a laser and color printer with one heck of a processor and memory and a
nice hard drive to boot. What is a guy to do!? Please email responses &
advice & I will post a summary.
Dave
From: info@barkley.absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Resetting permissions defaults SYSTEM WIDE
Date: 29 Jan 1994 05:53:50 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ictlf$8jg@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2ic65h$44e@inxs.concert.net>
In article <2ic65h$44e@inxs.concert.net> info@barkley.absystems.com (Advanced
Business Systems) writes:
> I am having permissions trouble on my Cubes and I'd like to reset permissions
> system-wide to their original state.
>
> What is the easiest way to accomplish this?
>
PROBLEM SOLVED, IT JUST TOOK SOMETHING I DON'T USUALLY HAVE...TIME
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From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: Hypersense
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.165539.11809@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <1994Jan28.023657.310@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 16:55:39 GMT
In article <1994Jan28.023657.310@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) writes:
> What's the name of the company which publishes Hypersense?
>
> Also, does anyone have their email address?
Thoughtful Software can be reached at info@thoughtful.com
See if you can get them give you an official release date.
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Subject: Re: Mosaic
Message-ID: <1994Jan27.233242.9080@cc.usu.edu>
From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham)
Date: 27 Jan 94 23:32:42 MDT
References: <2i0n40$ht2@sgate.com>
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
In article <2i0n40$ht2@sgate.com>, Mike Matthews <matthewm@sgate.com> wrote:
>Has anyone been able to successfully get the Mosaic-16bit-2.1-NeXT.compressed
>file off of cs.orst.edu? I've done it twice and the file seems to be
>corrupt.
>
Same here...
From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help on setting up xtank?
Date: 29 Jan 1994 07:32:24 GMT
Organization: This Space for Rent.
Message-ID: <2id3e8$io6@news.acns.nwu.edu>
I got the xtank binary from the ftp site in Germany and I was wondering if
someone could give me a few pointers on how to set it up correctly. (i.e.
what files go where.) I am using symbolic links to point to the correct
position of the xfiles, and I think that is confusing my program a little.
Thanks for your help.
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From: dma9w@tanzi.med.Virginia.EDU (Dawn M. Adelsberger)
Subject: Fortran
Message-ID: <CKCqsu.3oA@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 18:17:18 GMT
Does anyone know of a shareware site for a fortran compiler for the NeXT?
Thanks for any information.
Dawn Adelsberger-Mangan
From: sbender@access3.digex.net (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Please Help!! Can't boot NSFIP anymore!
Date: 29 Jan 1994 11:44:54 -0500
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
Message-ID: <2ie3q6$gsi@access3.digex.net>
Please Help!! I can longer boot NeXTSTEP. While trying to configure
a ProAudioSpectrum I was getting time outs from my DPT2022, and the boot
process got stuck after checking the root device. I then removed the
PAS16 and while rebooting, I got this:
Load of /etc/mach_init failed, errno 13, trying /etc/init
Load of /etc/init failed, errno 13
The boot process stops here, no more messages.
As usuall I have'nt made a backup in about a month. There's very important
information on my system that I can't get acces to.
Is there a way to boot off CDROM or floppy, so that I can at least backup
important files before reinstalling?
I use black hardware at work. Would it be possible to mount this drive
(a Micropolis 2210 SCSI) and backup or repair from there.
If you have any idea how to fix this please send e-mail.
I'll post a summary when I get the problem resolved.
Thanks
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From: dhinz@dread (Thomas Hintz)
Subject: How to combine chunks?
Message-ID: <CKEDF8.290@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
Summary: mousex
Keywords: mousex
Sender: news@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews)
Organization: US WEST Information Technologies
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 15:23:32 GMT
MouseX people,
I down loaded the X11R5-basics.tar.Z.chunk.* files
from cs.orst.edu but now need to now if I need to do something
special to combine these files into one large file before decompressing
and untarring. Or do I just decompress/untar each of the chunks?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
david Hinz
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Subject: Foreign & Ancient Langu
From: tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1.4203.2592.0N27BCAD@satalink.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 14:56:00 -0640
Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434
Is it possible to set up a database under NeXTSTEP where the data
embodies multiple languages, and thus multiple alphabets?
An example: a catalog of book titles, where
1) the ability to display the title in its original alphabet, not
just in a romanized format, is a requirement; and
2) the ability to search the title in its original format is
desirable.
I read somewhere that NeXTSTEP supports UNICODE. Can someone familiar
with this topic direct me to a good discussion of the related issues.
Finally, does anyone know of a company working with Voice Recognition
under NeXTSTEP? It might be more practical, for applications like the
one given above, to identify an alphabet by clicking on it, and then
_speaking_ the character/ideogram/logogram, than to use keyboard and
mouse for all input.
Thanks very much in advance,
Tim
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Swarthmore Pennsylvania
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Subject: Hypersense
From: tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1.4217.2592.0N27BCAE@satalink.com>
References: <1994Jan28.023657.310@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 23:01:00 -0640
Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434
T>Message-ID: <1994Jan28.023657.310@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
T>Newsgroup: comp.sys.next.software
T>From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry)
T>Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.
T>What's the name of the company which publishes Hypersense?
T>Also, does anyone have their email address?
HyperSense is from
Thoughtful Software
616 East Locust
Fort Collins, CO 80524
(303) 221-4596
info@thoughtful.com
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Swarthmore Pennsylvania
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From: tyf@soda.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to deinstall Teleconnect?
Date: 29 Jan 1994 19:59:22 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Undergrad Assoc, UCBerkeley
Message-ID: <2ief6q$mu5@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi,
I'm interested in selling my copy of Teleconnect. But first
thing I have to remove it from my machine. There is no instruction
on how to deinstall it on the manual. Should I simply remove all the
files? I remember that Teleconnect uses the NetInfo, something I fooled
around with last time and ended up re-initalize my hard disk.
Help appreciated. Thanks.
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From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Better than 640x480 Resolution in SoftPC (Intel)?
Date: 29 Jan 1994 20:12:22 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2iefv6$fta@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi.
Has anybody out there figured out how to load additoinal
video drivers into SoftPC (Intel)?
SoftPC only has the standard VGA driver built in. My
ATI GUP came with a Windows driver for 1024 x 768, and
it's doing 1120x832 here is NeXTstep.
So how about it?
Robert
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From: sbender@access1.digex.net (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Please Help!! Can't boot NSFIP anymore!
Date: 29 Jan 1994 15:42:28 -0500
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
Message-ID: <2iehnk$h96@access1.digex.net>
References: <2ie3q6$gsi@access3.digex.net>
Sorry to waste everyones time, but I finally got my disk back up.
I took the disk to work and hooked it up to a white machine with NSIP.
I then ran a fsck on the drive, which removed most of the files in
/private/etc, and then replaced the missing files.
Every thing runs fine now.
Thanks,
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Librarian problems
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <1994Jan27.140353.592@dbulm1.uucp>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 08:58:53 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan29.085853.8409@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jochen Gloger (gloger@dbulm1.uucp) wrote:
> Hi,
> we are having some problems when using WriteNow files with Librarian.
>
> Since NeXTSTEP 3.0 (we are currently running 3.1) Digital Librarian does no
> longer work with WriteNow files. It simply does not find any entry! Does
> anybody know a solution to this problem?
>
Actually this is a FAQ:
The solution is to put the following entry in a file called
ThirdPartyFilters.service in ~/Library/Services, or /LocalLibrary/Services.
Filter:
Port: NXUNIXSTDIO
Send Type: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:wn
Return Type: NXRTFPboardType
Executable: /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/wn-rtf
Filter:
Port: NXUNIXSTDIO
Send Type: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:frame
Return Type: NXAsciiPboardType
Executable: /LocalApps/FrameMaker.app/frame-ascii
This is for both, WriteNow and FrameMaker. Of course you have to choose the
correct path for the executables.
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: File Viewer Control
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2i3qie$9g@rosie.next.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 10:42:48 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan29.104248.8585@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You can use the .hidden file.
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e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: How to customize Rulers?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <1994Jan27.020236.26941@gleap.sccsi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 10:44:52 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan29.104452.8643@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Charles C. Lloyd (clloyd@gleap) wrote:
> >Tom R.Hageman (tom@basil.icce.rug.nl) wrote:
>
> > How do I customize a Text Ruler? The reason I ask is
[...]
>
> You can keep a "template" file around that has various different ruler settings
Well, I do that now for two years, I know that there was once a program
called "stylist" that was supposed to do just that trick, but I have never
seen it. Anybody?
Gerhard.
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e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: We'll need a news app soon...
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <1994Jan25.153239.7848@afs.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 10:47:29 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan29.104729.8703@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com) wrote:
> Beginning with NS3.0, things started to break in Newsgrazer. It
> ain't gonna get any better as time goes on. I don't want to go
> back to rn. Where's the next news app coming from? Did Newsgrazer
> Pro ever ship? Anything new in the public domain? Does anybody
> know anything? I sure don't ;-).
I heard rumors that there will be a professional newsreader soon.
Well, well, well
Gerhard.
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e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: version management and control software ?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2i8o5b$33q@eidosat.eidos.co.at>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 11:03:27 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan29.110327.8819@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Helmut Fichtinger (eidosat!fichting) wrote:
> Having a good tool for version management and control under NS is my never
> ending dream!
>
> Does anyone know something about the app DRCS from Software Services
> Solution Inc. respectively the address (e-mail, etc) of this firm?
Two of them:
SS&S, Main office Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
sss@sss.com
(203) 630-2000
(203) 630-2020
94 Murray Street
Meriden, Connecticut 06450
USA
SS&S, Pacific Northwest Regional Office Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
sss@pnw.sss.com
(206) 860-9295
(206) 860-6896
1222 East Crockett Street
Seattle, Washington 98102
USA
Hope, it helped, Gerhard.
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e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
+-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: edwardtl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Travis L Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do I get Frame documents to load up on FrameMaker3.0
Date: 29 Jan 1994 21:48:22 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2ielj6$3am@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
I have a problem opening .frame files. Every time I click on them it
opens up Edit instead of FramMaker. If I drag the file over on top of the
FrameMaker icon and hold down on the command key it will work. Otherwise
it doesn't. Does anyone have any hints as to how to go about fixing this?
Thanks
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Better than 640x480 Resolution in SoftPC (Intel)?
Date: 29 Jan 1994 22:30:05 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <2ieo1e$mh4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <2iefv6$fta@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Robert Lutwak (robert@amo.mit.edu) wrote:
: Hi.
: Has anybody out there figured out how to load additoinal
: video drivers into SoftPC (Intel)?
: SoftPC only has the standard VGA driver built in. My
: ATI GUP came with a Windows driver for 1024 x 768, and
: it's doing 1120x832 here is NeXTstep.
: So how about it?
You can resize the SoftPC window to be greater than 640x480 (make it up
to you max screen res). Also, you can go to full screen if your computer
supports it.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson)
Subject: NeXTStep
Message-ID: <1994Jan30.000811.29350@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 94 00:08:11 GMT
From: Mark-Tarbell@suite.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Rumors of Upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2
Message-ID: <2ibiil$p6j@bilbo.suite.com>
Date: 28 Jan 94 17:38:29 GMT
Organization: Suite Software
Could someone please comment on whether the following rumors are true?
The following pertain to black hardware.
1. I have heard that it is possible to upgrade directly to NS3.2 from
NS3.0 (without going through the NS3.1 upgrade step). True?
2. I have also heard that it is NOT possible to upgrade NS3.0J at all!
NS3.0J is the Japanese-environment version of NEXTSTEP. This would
mean I would have to reinstall NS3.0 from scratch, and then proceed,
or wait until NS3.2J comes out. True?
Thanks for your input.
Mark-Tarbell@suite.com
ep). True?
2. I have also heard that it is NOT possible to upgrade NS3.0J at all!
NS3.0J is the Japanese-environment version of NEXTSTEP. This
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Librarian problems
Date: 30 Jan 1994 03:16:38 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2if8qm$io4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Jan29.085853.8409@proximus.north.de>
Gerhard Moeller writes
> > we are having some problems when using WriteNow files with
> > Librarian.
>
> Actually this is a FAQ:
>
> The solution is to put the following entry in a file called
> ThirdPartyFilters.service in ~/Library/Services, or
> /LocalLibrary/Services.
<deleted>
Is there an equivalent way to get Librarian to work with WP files?
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: Plotting and Statistics RE:GraphRight
Message-ID: <CKDHCx.nt@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
References: <2i3se1$fv9@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 03:50:56 GMT
I'd like to comment on the statement about GraphRight:
"...current version does funky things with error bars..."
It currently supports two statistically relevant error bar calculation methods:
*Standard Deviation: Basically the square root or the variance, which in turn
characterizes the "width" of a linear fit about the median of a data set.
*Standard Error: Basically quantifies the spread of the data, unlike standard
deviation it describes the spread around the regression line.
We also support Error bars by Percent value, and Fixed value.
And, yes the next release will have separate upper and lower error bars with
specifiable values for each point, upper and lower.
We can place error bars on all standard graph types (column, scatter, area, XY
pair, etc.), not just paired data.
We can also read in any ASCII data and SYLK files, in addition to a few that
will be released soon (Harvard Graphics, Improv, and 123).
If you would like an evaluation copy just send me a note, I would be happy to
send one out. We also have very attractive educational and student prices.
Thanks,
---
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
(508)-481-3955 Fax
In article <2i3se1$fv9@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick
Gray) writes:
> In article <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu> farsh@radius.ortho.sunysb.edu
(Farsh Guilak) writes:
> >Does anybody know of a really good, presentation-quality software package
> >for scientific graphing and plotting? I am looking for something akin to
> >Kaleidegraph or Cricket graph for the NeXT. One thing I am having a lot
> >of trouble finding is the ability to put error bars on data points and bar
> >graphs.
> >
> >Thanks...
> >Farsh
> >
> We're looking for exactly the same thing. A good candidate appears to
> be GraphRight. Their current version does funky things with error
> bars (it tries to calculate them by some totally unknown method), but
> we've been told a very-soon-to-be released update will handle them much
> more elegantly and allow them to be put in as one column of data. Our
> contact there is:
> Dirk Fromhein
> df@watershed.com
> Watershed Technologies, Inc.
> (508)-460-9612 Voice
> (508)-481-3955 Fax
--
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Doom with sound
Date: 30 Jan 1994 05:04:15 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2iff4f$vq@hecate.umd.edu>
At the East Coast developer conference last week, there was a version of
Doom running under NeXTSTEP with sounds. Anybody know anything about this?
-Eric
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to combine chunks?
Date: 30 Jan 94 05:45:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.759908753@uiuc.edu>
References: <CKEDF8.290@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
Keywords: mousex
Thomas Hintz-
Your news software is broken. You should have either a Reply-To:
field or a fully qualified address in your From: line.
Thomas Hintz writes:
>I down loaded the X11R5-basics.tar.Z.chunk.* files
>from cs.orst.edu but now need to now if I need to do something
>special to combine these files into one large file before decompressing
>and untarring. Or do I just decompress/untar each of the chunks?
I believe you can simply move or copy the first chunk to the place
where you want the fully assembled .tar.Z file to be and the File
Viewer will either prompt you for the remaining chunks or find them in
the current directory.
All my chunking experience is from using many floppies, but it might
work the same if done from the hard disk.
--
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: Desktop Extenders - What are worthwhile?
Message-ID: <thompsonCKFnMr.401@netcom.com>
Organization: Saperstein, et al.
References: <s771966.759534497@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> <CK7osp.1zs@news.cis.umn.edu> <westesCKC1MH.Lzy@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 08:01:37 GMT
Will Estes <westes@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>I'll second that. MonsterShelf is truly awesome.
>
>What NeXTSTEP truly needs is a virtual monitor manager, like TopDesk
>that comes bundled with the Microsoft Windows Resource Kit. Under
>NS, it's too easy to get cluttered with windows on the desktop.
Have you tried VirtSpace or Desktop or EngageDesktop with smart levels??
(I don't know what TopDesk is, but those should fill the need.)
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Utility to Divide Archived Newsgroups
Message-ID: <1994Jan29.215152.990@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 21:51:52 GMT
I was wondering if anyone had a utility that would take an archived
newsgroup file and slipt it up into seperate files. The archives are from
one of the FTP sites and are simply ascii files with all posting listed
through them for that month, 6 months, or year.
I would like to have files that NewsGrazer could read, or that I could at
least index with Librarian, to serve as a reference.
Thanks
Wes Spears
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The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Looking for vector-graphics-conversion
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.153724.2266@westwerk.cube.de>
Keywords: conversion, DTP
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de
Organization: Westwerk
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 15:37:24 GMT
We are doing complex DTP-jobs with a NeXT-colorstation. Despite of a rich
collection of DTP-software and utilities (Virtuoso, Illustrator, FrameMaker,
Tailor, ...) we haven t discovered a tool for importing vector-graphics from
various PC-based graphic packages.
Conversion utilities like Pixel Magician will work mostly with bitmap
file-formats. I wonder if there is an utility to convert vector-formats like
CGM (Computer Graphics Metafile), MacIntosh PICT, Lotus PIC, WordPerfect WPG,
HPGL, ...
Thanks for responding,
Michael Burgstahler
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mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
70193 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Fon 0711 / 638360
Fax 0711 / 634696
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mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Problem with Ohlfs-Font
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.155657.2473@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de
Organization: Westwerk
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 15:56:57 GMT
We have a little, annoying problem with the System-Font Ohlfs.
We use it as non-proportional System Font with 10 pt. But several characters
(G,Q,Y,Z, ...) are looking bolder than normal when they appear. The cursor
position is affected by the occurence of these "defect" characters - the more
of these characters occur in a line, the further is the cursor shifted from its
correct position.
Anyone got clues for this problem ?
Maybe there is s.th. wrong with the 10pt screen font ?
Thanks for responding,
Michael Burgstahler
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Michael Burgstahler
mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
70193 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Fon 0711 / 638360
Fax 0711 / 634696
******************************************
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mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Anyone heard of NS3.2 printing problems ?
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.163629.2749@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de
Organization: Westwerk
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 16:36:29 GMT
A friend of mine is working as PostScript consultant for several print shops
and DTP service bureaus. Today he warned me to update our NeXTstations with
NS3.2.
He reported severe problems with color separation, RIP hangups and film
recording jobs under NS3.2. Even small and absolutely flawless PostScript jobs
chrash the whole system in the print shop. With NS3.1 everything has worked
correctly.
Has anyone seen similar problems ?
Thanks for responding,
Michael Burgstahler
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mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
70193 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Fon 0711 / 638360
Fax 0711 / 634696
******************************************
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mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Chinese Apps
Date: 30 Jan 1994 12:47:04 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2iga88$9e@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <whFbwqe00VIdA=3ndV@andrew.cmu.edu> <2i8h76$374@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <CKB8r2.4r0@news.cis.umn.edu>
kim chen (kcchen@polyp.micro.umn.edu) wrote:
: Could you post more info. about chinese software package for Nextstep,
: (especially NS/I).
: How can I get them ? (commerical/free)
: Thanx.
: Kim Chen
Commercail:
CEdit: a stander Edit but work with Chinese Postscript Font
* Big-5 code (two-byte) *
CInput: Chinese Input for CEdit
( There is another program under beta called CServce, which let
you Input Chinese to another 3rd-party Apps )
PS: the CInput needs Keypro ...
CTerminal: since the terminal in NeXTSTEP has already support 8bit,
so I think it is useless.
Longman: a English-to-Chinese dictionary
CSearch: search Chinese in document
ChIB and ChKit: Chinese kit for Interface Builder, but I have not use
it yet.
Paper: for Desktop Publishing
PS: All the Chinese software are only available in NS/FIP (no FAT)
Free:
** NOT YET **
Some of TwNUG members are projecting to do, it should takes few months ...
: > And there is one Free Chinese Postscript Font in FTP site.
: where?
cs.orst.edu /pub/next/submissions
Mark
TwNUG ( Taiwan NeXT User Group )
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of NS3.2 printing problems ?
Date: 30 Jan 94 13:36:02 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.759936962@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <1994Jan28.163629.2749@westwerk.cube.de>
mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler) writes:
>A friend of mine is working as PostScript consultant for several print shops
>and DTP service bureaus. Today he warned me to update our NeXTstations with
>NS3.2.
>He reported severe problems with color separation, RIP hangups and film
>recording jobs under NS3.2. Even small and absolutely flawless PostScript jobs
>chrash the whole system in the print shop. With NS3.1 everything has worked
>correctly.
>Has anyone seen similar problems ?
No, we don't have any problems with NS 3.2 PostScript code on our Xerox
DocuTech RIP. However, I can only speak for black and white jobs and not
about color separation.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Utility to Divide Archived Newsgroups
In-Reply-To: jspears@weston.com's message of Sat, 29 Jan 1994 21:51:52 GMT
To: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jan30083356@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Jan29.215152.990@weston.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 13:33:55 GMT
In article <1994Jan29.215152.990@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes:
I was wondering if anyone had a utility that would take an archived
newsgroup file and slipt it up into seperate files. The archives are from
one of the FTP sites and are simply ascii files with all posting listed
through them for that month, 6 months, or year.
I would like to have files that NewsGrazer could read, or that I could at
least index with Librarian, to serve as a reference.
Use the formail utility with the '-s' option from the procmail
package. It (as well as the other parts of the procmail package) will
come in handy for as long as RFC 822 reigns which considering the
sheer impossibility of transition may be from now to eternity (and
they laughed at _A fire upon the deep_ !). Get the latest release
from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:pub/unix/procmail.tar.Z.
Carl Edman
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Chinese Apps
Date: 30 Jan 1994 16:59:18 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2igp16$esp@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <whFbwqe00VIdA=3ndV@andrew.cmu.edu> <2i8h76$374@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <CKB8r2.4r0@news.cis.umn.edu> <2iga88$9e@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
In article <2iga88$9e@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>,
*** Mark Lin *** <u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw> wrote:
>PS: All the Chinese software are only available in NS/FIP (no FAT)
WHY????? Is everything written in Assembler???
What can we do to have a BLACK NeXT Version? I will offer my help if there is
anything I can do.
--
//|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
// || // @
//==||/\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
// || \\ @ "BUT MY NeXTMAIL IS NOT WORKING YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Desktop Extenders - What are worthwhile?
Date: 30 Jan 1994 18:17:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2igtkc$mt8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <thompsonCKFnMr.401@netcom.com>
Will Estes <westes@netcom.com> wrote:
>What NeXTSTEP truly needs is a virtual monitor manager, like TopDesk
>that comes bundled with the Microsoft Windows Resource Kit. Under
>NS, it's too easy to get cluttered with windows on the desktop.
Not sure what TopDesk is, but try checking out VirtSpace (there
should be a demo on the archives). It gives you unlimited virtual
screens. Very nice, and reasonably priced.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: rick@slide.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Plotting and Statistics RE:GraphRight
Date: 30 Jan 1994 19:19:06 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
Message-ID: <2ih17a$5p1@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
References: <2i3se1$fv9@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> <CKDHCx.nt@ripple.uunet>
In article <CKDHCx.nt@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes:
>
>I'd like to comment on the statement about GraphRight:
>"...current version does funky things with error bars..."
>
>It currently supports two statistically relevant error bar calculation
methods:
>
>*Standard Deviation: Basically the square root or the variance, which in turn
>characterizes the "width" of a linear fit about the median of a data set.
>
>*Standard Error: Basically quantifies the spread of the data, unlike standard
>deviation it describes the spread around the regression line.
>
>We also support Error bars by Percent value, and Fixed value.
>And, yes the next release will have separate upper and lower error bars with
>specifiable values for each point, upper and lower.
>
>We can place error bars on all standard graph types (column, scatter, area, XY
>pair, etc.), not just paired data.
>
>We can also read in any ASCII data and SYLK files, in addition to a few that
>will be released soon (Harvard Graphics, Improv, and 123).
>
>If you would like an evaluation copy just send me a note, I would be happy to
>send one out. We also have very attractive educational and student prices.
>
>Thanks,
>---
>Dirk Fromhein
>df@watershed.com
>Watershed Technologies, Inc.
>(508)-460-9612 Voice
>(508)-481-3955 Fax
>
I apologize for my imprecise language when I said "...current version
does funky things with error bars...". What I really meant was
"the current version of GraphRight doesn't handle error bars the way we
need it to".
One of our simplest bar graphs might consist of 2 or more bars, with
each bar representing the mean of several different experiments.
E.g., bar1 may be the mean value from 10 experiments under control
situations, with it's own standard error of the mean (SEM), and bar2
would be mean data from 10 other experiments with a certain drug, also
having it's own (different) SEM. A SEM calculated from the values of
the 2 different bars would not have the proper meaning in this case (or
in any of the cases where we plot data with errorbars).
I would prefer to enter the data into the spreadsheet as:
label bar1_y-value bar1_error-bar
control 10 1.23
drug X 25 2.67
where I calculate the errorbar value using my own methods and
corrections specific to my measurements. I don't expect a graphing
package to do my statistics for me, although I don't mind if it has
that capability as long as I can also add my own values for each data
point.
I personnally like GraphRight and still recommend it; I didn't mean to cast
aspersions about its capabilities. When a version that handles error bars the
way we require is available, we will almost certainly purchase it.
--
Rick Gray, Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713)798-3346|Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Goetz.von-Escher@open.ch (Goetz von Escher)
Subject: Archie2.05a - how to get?
Message-ID: <CKGLAs.5yo@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 20:08:51 GMT
I got the self installing ArchieSrc.pkg from sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
If I try to install package then I get an error: 'There were problems
connecting to the computer superc.che.udel.edu'. It seems that this
site does no longer support anonymous ftp! (I tried manually)
Can anybody send me a copy of the source?
(I'd like to socksify the client)
--
Goetz von Escher email: Goetz.von-Escher@Open.CH
Open Systems AG voice: +41 (61) 262-0505
Basel, Switzerland FAX: +41 (61) 262-0510
From: nika!ken@uunet.UU.NET (Ken Pelletier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RE: Sybase connection in SoftPC Windows?
Date: 30 Jan 1994 14:50:31 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9401302027.AA10087@nika>
Janna,
If you're trying to run a Sybase client under SoftPC/Windows, then it's a
matter of whether the Sybase client libraries for Windows can talk to a Novell
Lan Workplace for DOS TCP/IP protocol stack. I haven't tried to run any
Sybase client apps, but I can tell you that the SoftPC TCP/IP implementation
works OK with sockets and RPC's, so it should "just work" ;-)
If you have any questions, email me... we're neighbors.
- Ken
Ken Pelletier (ken@nika.com)
NiKA Software, Inc.
Chicago, IL
> I'm trying to set up a sybase connection between SoftPC/Windows running on
> a NeXTSTEP 3.2 Intel machine and a Sun server. Both machines are on a
> TCP/IP network. Has anyone gotten this to work or have reason to believe
> it should work?
>
> SoftPC is set-up to use a Novell driver, yet can see the drives I've
> mounted on NeXTSTEP via NFS. Can I use this NeXTSTEP - SoftPC
> communication to work for sybase as well?
>
> Any and all info/ideas apprieciated,
>
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Utility to Divide Archived Newsgroups
Date: 30 Jan 1994 16:01:24 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2iglkk$23k@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Jan29.215152.990@weston.com> <CEDMAN.94Jan30083356@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <1994Jan29.215152.990@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes:
> I was wondering if anyone had a utility that would take an archived
> newsgroup file and slipt it up into seperate files. The archives are from
> one of the FTP sites and are simply ascii files with all posting listed
> through them for that month, 6 months, or year.
>
> I would like to have files that NewsGrazer could read, or that I could at
> least index with Librarian, to serve as a reference.
>
>Use the formail utility with the '-s' option from the procmail
>package. It (as well as the other parts of the procmail package) will
>come in handy for as long as RFC 822 reigns which considering the
>sheer impossibility of transition may be from now to eternity (and
>they laughed at _A fire upon the deep_ !). Get the latest release
>from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:pub/unix/procmail.tar.Z.
>
> Carl Edman
If you want to take a comp.sys.next.software file and produce a file
for each thread. Then go and look at Splitter. Probably still on
sonata in the source tree.
Splitter wasn't full proof but did a fair job.
--
"You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant)
"What?"
"Nothing" (Charade, 1963)
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: version management and control software ?
Message-ID: <1994Jan28.191515.872@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2i8o5b$33q@eidosat.eidos.co.at>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 19:15:15 GMT
In article <2i8o5b$33q@eidosat.eidos.co.at> eidosat!fichting (Helmut
Fichtinger) writes:
> Having a good tool for version management and control under NS is my
never
> ending dream!
>
> Does anyone know something about the app DRCS from Software Services
> Solution Inc. respectively the address (e-mail, etc) of this firm?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> helmut
>
>
>
> e-mail fichting@eidos.co.at
free> man rcs
RCS(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual RCS(1)
NAME
rcs - change RCS file attributes
SYNOPSIS
rcs [ options ] file ...
DESCRIPTION
Rcs creates new RCS files or changes attributes of existing
ones. An RCS file contains multiple revisions of text, an
access list, a change log, descriptive text, and some con-
trol attributes. For rcs to work, the caller's login name
must be on the access list, except if the access list is
empty, the caller is the owner of the file or the superuser,
or the -i option is present.
Files ending in `,v' are RCS files, all others are working
files. If a working file is given, rcs tries to find the
corresponding RCS file first in directory ./RCS and then in
the current directory, as explained in co (1).
-i creates and initializes a new RCS file, but does
not deposit any revision. If the RCS file has no
path prefix, rcs tries to place it first into the
subdirectory ./RCS, and then into the current
directory. If the RCS file already exists, an
error message is printed.
-alogins appends the login names appearing in the comma-
separated list logins to the access list of the
RCS file.
-Aoldfile appends the access list of oldfile to the access
list of the RCS file.
-e[logins] erases the login names appearing in the comma-
separated list logins from the access list of the
RCS file. If logins is omitted, the entire
access list is erased.
-cstring sets the comment leader to string. The comment
leader is printed before every log message line
generated by the keyword $Log$ during checkout
(see co). This is useful for programming
languages without multi-line comments. During rcs
-i or initial ci, the comment leader is guessed
from the suffix of the working file.
-l[rev] locks the revision with number rev. If a branch
is given, the latest revision on that branch is
locked. If rev is omitted, the latest revision
on the trunk is locked. Locking prevents over-
lapping changes. A lock is removed with ci or
rcs -u (see below).
-u[rev] unlocks the revision with number rev. If a
branch is given, the latest revision on that
branch is unlocked. If rev is omitted, the
latest lock held by the caller is removed. Nor-
mally, only the locker of a revision may unlock
it. Somebody else unlocking a revision breaks
the lock. This causes a mail message to be sent
to the original locker. The message contains a
commentary solicited from the breaker. The com-
mentary is terminated with a line containing a
single `.' or control-D.
-L sets locking to strict. Strict locking means that
the owner of an RCS file is not exempt from lock-
ing for checkin. This option should be used for
files that are shared.
-U sets locking to non-strict. Non-strict locking
means that the owner of a file need not lock a
revision for checkin. This option should NOT be
used for files that are shared. The default (-L
or -U) is determined by your system administra-
tor.
-nname[:rev]
associates the symbolic name name with the branch
or revision rev. Rcs prints an error message if
name is already associated with another number.
If rev is omitted, the symbolic name is deleted.
-Nname[:rev]
same as -n, except that it overrides a previous
assignment of name.
-orange deletes ("outdates") the revisions given by
range. A range consisting of a single revision
number means that revision. A range consisting
of a branch number means the latest revision on
that branch. A range of the form rev1-rev2 means
revisions rev1 to rev2 on the same branch, -rev
means from the beginning of the branch containing
rev up to and including rev, and rev- means from
revision rev to the end of the branch containing
rev. None of the outdated revisions may have
branches or locks.
-q quiet mode; diagnostics are not printed.
-sstate[:rev]
sets the state attribute of the revision rev to
state. If rev is omitted, the latest revision on
the trunk is assumed; If rev is a branch number,
the latest revision on that branch is assumed.
Any identifier is acceptable for state. A useful
set of states is Exp (for experimental), Stab
(for stable), and Rel (for released). By
default, ci sets the state of a revision to Exp.
-t[txtfile]
writes descriptive text into the RCS file
(deletes the existing text). If txtfile is omit-
ted, rcs prompts the user for text supplied from
the std. input, terminated with a line containing
a single `.' or control-D. Otherwise, the
descriptive text is copied from the file txtfile.
If the -i option is present, descriptive text is
requested even if -t is not given. The prompt is
suppressed if the std. input is not a terminal.
DIAGNOSTICS
The RCS file name and the revisions outdated are written to
the diagnostic output. The exit status always refers to the
last RCS file operated upon, and is 0 if the operation was
successful, 1 otherwise.
FILES
The caller of the command must have read/write permission
for the directory containing the RCS file and read permis-
sion for the RCS file itself. Rcs creates a semaphore file
in the same directory as the RCS file to prevent simultane-
ous update. For changes, rcs always creates a new file. On
successful completion, rcs deletes the old one and renames
the new one. This strategy makes links to RCS files use-
less.
IDENTIFICATION
Author: Walter F. Tichy, Purdue University, West Lafayette,
IN, 47907.
Revision Number: 3.1 ; Release Date: 83/04/04 .
Copyright (C) 1982 by Walter F. Tichy.
SEE ALSO
co (1), ci (1), ident(1), rcsdiff (1), rcsintro (1),
rcsmerge (1), rlog (1), rcsfile (5), sccstorcs (8).
Walter F. Tichy, "Design, Implementation, and Evaluation of
a Revision Control System," in Proceedings of the 6th Inter-
national Conference on Software Engineering, IEEE, Tokyo,
Sept. 1982.
BUGS
free>
Cheers 8^)
--Fabien
___________________________________________________________________
Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org
NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby)
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Message-ID: <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp>
Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby)
Organization: S.RUBY
References: <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 21:58:34 GMT
In article <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
>
> What bothers me already a long time is that in Edit (up to my
> knowledge) it is no possible to have a DELETE key. I expected
> something like <shift><backspace> to do the trick, but nop.
> Maybe I'm overlooking something and if so, who can tell me
> how to do it.
>
I don't think there is anything like this in Edit, but I fully agree with you:
there is a need for a delete key along withe the backspace key and not only in
Edit but everywhere in NextStep. Perhaps if we are enough to say it the kings
of Unix and NeXT will listen to us. By the way even Windows has a delete key
working properly ie not in the same direction as backspace.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Message-ID: <CKGqv8.6A@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
References: <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 22:09:07 GMT
In article <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp>,
serge_ruby <sr@rdbois.fdn.org> wrote:
>>
>> What bothers me already a long time is that in Edit (up to my
>> knowledge) it is no possible to have a DELETE key. I expected
>> something like <shift><backspace> to do the trick, but nop.
>> Maybe I'm overlooking something and if so, who can tell me
>> how to do it.
>>
If you put Edit in Developer mode (using preferences) you'll
be able to use the Emacs key bindings. That is, Control-D will delete
the character at the cursor.
Rob
--
| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: Utility to Divide Archived Newsgroups
Message-ID: <1994Jan30.223856.12456@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
References: <1994Jan29.215152.990@weston.com> <CEDMAN.94Jan30083356@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2iglkk$23k@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 94 22:38:56 GMT
In article <2iglkk$23k@steffi.demon.co.uk>,
Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> If you want to take a comp.sys.next.software file and produce a file
> for each thread. Then go and look at Splitter. Probably still on
> sonata in the source tree.
>
> Splitter wasn't full proof but did a fair job.
splitter was just a quick C hack to do the job. It isn't perfect, but
it has worked well enough for me.
The splitter package on sonata is tailored for the archives on sonata
which are hopelessly unmaintained. I have updated the program to split
the archives (by thread, of course) present on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de,
which are well maintained.
Drop me a note if you'd like a copy. I'll also look at resubmitting this
to the ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de site.
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 21:07:13 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QhH6TFa00iV9A7J25k@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 29-Jan-94 Re: a delete key
(not backs.. by serge_ruby@rdbois.fdn.or
> > What bothers me already a long time is that in Edit (up to my
> > knowledge) it is no possible to have a DELETE key. I expected
> > something like <shift><backspace> to do the trick, but nop.
> > Maybe I'm overlooking something and if so, who can tell me
> > how to do it.
> >
> I don't think there is anything like this in Edit, but I fully agree with
> you: there is a need for a delete key along withe the backspace key and not
> only in Edit but everywhere in NextStep. Perhaps if we are enough to say it
> the kings of Unix and NeXT will listen to us. By the way even Windows has a
> delete key working properly ie not in the same direction as backspace.
The problem between Backspace (\010) and Delete (\177) is that a lot of
people have confused backing up one character and overprinting (cursor
motion) with deletion.
My preference is that the cursor keys (the up arrow, down arrow, etc)
perform pure cursor motion, and insert characters in place, rather than
overstriking characters. The delete key (which should be above the
return key) should delete the character before the cursor, and some
other key should delete in front of the cursor. The Unix/NeXT world has
decided that backwards deletion should be performed by Delete (\177),
which does not match up with what the standard PC keyboard does.
Forward deletion can be performed by Ctrl-D, (particularly in
Emacs-keybindings-influenced interfaces), but Ctrl-H is also a possible
alternative, particularly on PC-based keyboards. Unfortunately, most PC
keyboards have Del and BS switched from the way Unix programs expect.
If you switch the meanings of BS and Del on a PC keyboard, you will
probably be much happier.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole Kaiyan)
Subject: REQUEST: Info on NeuroSolutions from NeuroDimension
Message-ID: <CKGFyu.99@number_one.apana.org.au>
Keywords: neural net
Sender: nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole Kaiyan)
Organization: Cafe Seacombe - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 18:13:42 GMT
REQUEST: Info on NeuroSolutions from NeuroDimension
Article in NeXTWORLD Extra on the above software indicates this software has
been shipping since December 1993 and costs US$2495 for the user system and
US$6495 for the developer version.
The company is NeuroDimension ph. (International) +1-904-377-5144
If anyone has purchased this product already or can provide further contact
info or actual product info it would be greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Nicole
___________________________________________________________________________
Nicole Kaiyan Email: nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au
Computer Science Department nk@jupiter.cs.swin.oz.au
Swinburne University of Technology nkaiyan@farben.latrobe.edu.au
Hawthorn 3122
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Nicole Kaiyan Email: nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au
nicolek@latcs1.lat.oz.au
Computer Science Department nk@jupiter.cs.swin.oz.au
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 30 Jan 1994 22:27:59 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2ihtrv$ihb@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken)
Subject: envelopes?
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.040807.14349@cs.cornell.edu>
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 04:08:07 GMT
Is there any PD, shareware, or inexpensive commercial software to
support the printing of envelopes, address labels, and the like
on the NeXT?
--- Bill.
--
William E. Aitken | Formal verification is the
email: Bill.Aitken@cornell.edu | future of computer science ---
snail: 5910 S. Atlanta Pl, Tulsa OK 74105 | Always has been, always will be.
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: NEXTSTEP Fonts From Trilithon Software [Was Re; What font packages are available?]
Message-ID: <1994Jan30.195053.2045@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <2i9vvn$tl@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 19:50:53 GMT
In article <2i9vvn$tl@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
* Back when I got my NeXTstation, I bought the Adobe Plus
* Pack from NeXTconnection. This gave me all the fonts that
* a standard laserwriter has, but which NeXT doesn't ship in
* their default set.
* Is that package still available these days? I'll probably
* be interested in fonts for my NS/Intel machine, assuming
* the PC I'm interested in ever gets certified for NS/Intel...
Adobe no longer make the Plus Pack Adobe also no longer make the
Adobe Type Set 1, 2, 3, packages.
What's current is a package called Adobe Type Basics -- it has
sixty five faces, including the Standard Thirty Five[*], and includes
two of the Tekton faces. It retails for $198. This in my opinion
is a Good Deal, because the packages purchased separately would
come out around $3,000. A list of the fonts in the Adobe Type
Basics package is appended to this message.
[*] For those unfamiliar with this term, the ``Standard Thirty
Five'' refers to the set of ROM fonts found in most LaserWriters
such as the IINTX, IIf/IIg, Pro630, and so on.
* The NeXT FAQ list claims that RightBrain still distributes
* fonts for NeXTSTEP, but clearly that isn't true these days.
* And if I remember right, they didn't have the Plus Pack
* back when they did handle most Adobe fonts for NeXTSTEP.
RightBrain no longer distribute Adobe fonts for NEXTSTEP. Everybody
please amend your FAQ lists and your NEXTSTEP folklore databases.
For NEXTSTEP format fonts, we [Trilithon Software] are an authorised
Adobe reseller and supply Adobe fonts for NEXTSTEP. We can also
obtain some fonts from other vendors and package them for NEXTSTEP.
Adobe no longer manufacture fonts in NEXTSTEP format. Adobe are
still directing people to RightBrain when they should be directing
people to us, but that should change over time -- it's only been
about three months since we obtained our reseller status.
Both the NeXT FAQ list and the comp.fonts FAQ list are slightly
out of date. I informed the keepers of the lists some time ago.
The latest comp.fonts FAQ was still referencing RightBrain, and I
posted a correction to the FAQ in comp.fonts.
Adobe's latest Font and Function catalog is the Fall 1993 version.
A new version is scheduled to appear sometime in April/May time.
Adobe recenty announced a twenty-five percent cut in prices. Note
that the cut doesn't apply to Adobe's Type Basics package, their
Value Pack, or to their Wild Type package. Please also note that
the Fall 1993 Font and Function had lots of items on sale [prices
listed in red]. The special sale expired at the end of December.
For Type 1 PostScript fonts for NEXTSTEP:
Write To: Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 325-0767
FAX: (415) 325-0768
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
======================================================================
FONTS IN ADOBE TYPE BASICS PACKAGE
Adobe Caslon Regular Adobe Caslon Italic
Adobe Caslon Semibold Adobe Caslon Semibold Italic
Adobe Garamond Regular Adobe Garamond Italic
Adobe Garamond Bold Adobe Garamond Bold Italic
Americana Americana Extra Bold
Avant Garde Book Avant Garde Book Oblique
Avant Garde Demi Avant Garde Demi Oblique
Barmeno Medium Barmeno Regular
Barmeno Bold Barmeno Extra Bold
Blackoak
Bookman Demi Bookman Demi Italic
Bookman Light Bookman Light Italic
Carta
Courier Courier Oblique
Courier Bold Courier Bold Oblique
Formata Regular Formata Medium Italic
Formata Italic Formata Medium
Helvetica Bold Helvetica Bold Oblique
Helvetica Narrow Bold Helvetica Narrow Bold Oblique
Helvetica Narrow Oblique Helvetica Narrow
Helvetica Oblique Helvetica
Kaufmann
Lithos Black Lithos Regular
New Century Schoolbook Bold New Century Schoolbook Bold Italic
New Century Schoolbook Italic New Century Schoolbook Roman
Palatino Bold Palatino Bold Italic
Palatino Italic Palatino Roman
Parisian
Park Avenue
Poetica Supplemental Ornaments
Symbol
Tekton Tekton Bold
Times Bold Times Bold Italic
Times Italic Times Roman
Trajan Bold
Woodtype Ornaments Two
Zapf Chancery Medium Italic Zapf Dingbats
======================================================================
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: envelopes?
Date: 31 Jan 1994 06:13:55 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2ii7j3$rkr@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Jan31.040807.14349@cs.cornell.edu>
William E. Aitken writes
> Is there any PD, shareware, or inexpensive commercial software to
> support the printing of envelopes, address labels, and the like
> on the NeXT?
StayInTouch does this (and you get a free address book :-). It sells
for $50 edu, I think.
--
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: tyf@soda.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: envelopes?
Date: 31 Jan 1994 06:53:55 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Undergrad Assoc., UCBerkeley
Message-ID: <2ii9u3$fua@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Jan31.040807.14349@cs.cornell.edu> <2ii7j3$rkr@nntp2.stanford.edu>
In article <2ii7j3$rkr@nntp2.stanford.edu>,
Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>William E. Aitken writes
>> Is there any PD, shareware, or inexpensive commercial software to
>> support the printing of envelopes, address labels, and the like
>> on the NeXT?
>
>StayInTouch does this (and you get a free address book :-). It sells
>for $50 edu, I think.
>
Poste.app also does envelope (and for free, I think) It's in
pub/next/2.0-release on sonata.
--
===========================================================
Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley NEXTMAIL OK and Preferred!!
Email : tyf@ucsee.eecs or tyf@soda + .berkley.edu
===========================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sven@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Ryan Jarrell)
Subject: Please help - boot disk
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 07:25:39 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University
Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration)
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.072539.1526@umr.edu>
I am in need of a boot disk. A Friend recently purchased a NeXT at a
college auction, and we aren't even sure of the condiditon it is in. Any
help you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
R.D. Jarrell
<sven@umr.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: smeester@antares (Eric Smeesters)
Subject: Re: .Wav files playable on a NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.085222.1390@info.ucl.ac.be>
Keywords: GISO
Sender: news@info.ucl.ac.be (News Administrator)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Catholic University of Louvain
References: <2i9d86$mpu@cisun2000.unil.ch>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 08:52:22 GMT
In article <2i9d86$mpu@cisun2000.unil.ch> Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean
L. Hill) writes:
> Could someone who has patched GISO to compile under 3.x post the
> patches and/or put the new binary/source on the archives. I apologize
You can also find it on
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
(/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/audio-apps/).
--
Eric Smeesters
Phone: +32 10 47 80 66
email: smeesters@tele.ucl.ac.be (NeXT email appreciated)
Universite Catholique de Louvain
Laboratoire de Telecommunications et Teledetection
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOTS demo behaving erratically (parallel port driver broken)
Date: 31 Jan 1994 13:18:49 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2ij0fp$2m6@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <2ib05m$4u2@email.tuwien.ac.at> <1994Jan28.173945.233@dart.de>
Federico Heinz (federico@heinz.in-berlin.de) wrote:
: In article <2ib05m$4u2@email.tuwien.ac.at>
: wilkie@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Alexander Wilkie) writes:
: > Recently I downloaded the demo of DOTS from cs.orst. The
: > Problem is that it only prints one page correctly and
: > from then on only garbage. The printer used is a HP DJ
: > 500C with white hardware. Has anyone had similar problems?
: > Please tell
: We have had reports from some customers that had similar problems with white
: hardware, and each of them had different symptoms. What all reported problems
: have in common is that they are using the parallel port to attach the
: printer, just as everybody would. If you switch to the serial port, the
: problem will go away (provided you get the right cable, one with DTR flow
: control).
I use the demo of JetPilot and Dots with HP DJ-500 and found that
JetPilot works fine but Dots had problem.
And I try to reduce to * 75dpi * and the Dots just can print out the test
file. My friends told me that it seems Dots had something wrong with the control
of buffer since the Ink printer had small buffer.
( I don't know if I had got something wrong )
And the other suggestion is that I like to use the same Printer Manager
which was done by JetPilot.
( I don't know if Dots can work fine with NeXT's Printer Manager,
since I have no chance to print it out )
Mark
TwNUG ( Taiwan NeXT User Group )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)
Subject: Help with TeleComm
Message-ID: <CKHyp0.Czr@netnews.jhuapl.edu>
Keywords: TeleComm, zyxel, communications
Sender: usenet@netnews.jhuapl.edu
Organization: Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Lab
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 13:55:47 GMT
Since I have been having problems with tip I decided
to give TeleComm a try but I don't think I have things
setup right since it takes about 2 minutes to transfer
a 10k file. Could someone who has a zyxel 1496E send me
there configurations for this software? Also what
version of sz and what command line options are needed
for proper zmodem transfers? I am currently trying to use
sz ver 1.36 08-31-87 for V7/BSD on a sun. I am able to
start downloading stuff but time ran out on the demo when
I tried to transfer a 40k binary file.
Thanks
PS. This is white hardware.
--
----------------------------------------------------
Otto "Apes don't read philoshpy"
Wanda "Yes they do, they just don't understand it"
----------------------------------------------------
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Greater than 640x480 Resolution in SoftPC?
Date: 31 Jan 1994 14:12:34 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2ij3ki$rcn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi.
My ATI GUP w/2 MB VRAM does 1120x832x16 under NeXTstep.
Has anybody out there succeeded in loading additional
video drivers into SoftPC/Windows (Intel)?
I managed to get the 8514 interface going (1024x768), by
loading the adapter interface that came with my video board
and hacking the SoftPC/Win config files, but it doesn't
appear in the configuration menu under windows, and it
only uses 1024x768 of what's apparently an 1120x832 aperture,
leaving a border of hectic gibberish.
Are there any windows experts out there who've added additional
drivers properly?
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
--- Everything I say via this computer belongs to MIT. ---
---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GISO (Was Re: .Wav files)
Date: 31 Jan 1994 17:11:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2ije3d$237@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Jan31.085222.1390@info.ucl.ac.be>
There's been a lot of discussion about using GISO to convert various
sound formats.
I have GISO, but must admit I'm pretty clueless as to how to use it.
I was expecting an app that would take .wav or whatever in at one end
and spit out something NeXT-usable at the other. Instead I get a
control panel replete with multiple-choice pop-up lists and no
instructions. Maybe I'm just dumb or unlucky, but none of my random
efforts so far have produced anything usable. I have the man page
for sox (which GISO is a front-end to) and find it equally unhelpful,
as it assumes I know something about sounds. Are there default
settings to convert a .wav to a NeXT-usable .snd? If not, is there
somewhere I could look for a quick primer written in layman's
language? I'm not that interested in fine-tuning the sounds to get
optimal performance -- just getting something usable.
Thanks in advance.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: dekorte@ibm8.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen L. DeKorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Terminal with nonfixed fonts?
Date: 31 Jan 1994 11:48:55 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
Message-ID: <2iir77$gej@mailer.fsu.edu>
Anyone know if there is a terminal app for the NeXT that supports
the use of non-fixed point fonts. (The Terminal.app does not)
Thanks for any help,
Steve
PS please respond by email
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Research Chapter 11??
Date: 31 Jan 1994 14:52:22 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <2ij5v6$q5g@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com>
In article <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart
Hamlyn) writes:
> Anyone know what happened to Pinnacle, authors of Pagechain, Transfer,
> etc...? I've been trying to order products from the for two months
haven't
> succeeded (no answer, etc...)
I've been trying to get in touch with them to place orders for "Transfer"
but have not been able to contact anyone either. I was given an alternate
address but received no response from it either. Does anyone know what has
become of them? Transfer sounded like a really nice app easy to use
without the headaches of SLIP. If we can't reach them then I'll have to
spend lots of time learning about SLIP.
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: js@hnv_15 (Juergen Sell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: faxcleanup - Input file format ?
Date: 31 Jan 1994 16:59:58 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems
Message-ID: <2ijdee$sp4@vampir.hnv.icem.de>
Hello,
I wonder what is the format of the files being processed by
/usr/lib/NeXTPrinter/faxcleanup?
There seems to be absolutely no documentation under NS3.0 !?
In fact, I have a rather strange fax-machine with a serial interface plus
some low-level software which creates pure g3-data files for incoming faxes.
It would be just nice to have this work under the usual fax-gui.
Any ideas?
Juergen
--
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' | (_ Icem Systems ( NeXTMail welcome )
,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
(_| BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye)
Subject: Losing events. HELP !
Message-ID: <ARROUYE.94Jan31184251@petole.imag.fr>
Sender: news@imag.fr
Organization: LGI-IMAG, Grenoble, France
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 17:42:51 GMT
Hello,
I have a problem while getting events: I want to act on a single- and
double-click, but it looks like my single-click action takes too much
time and the double-click event is discarded (if I just make an empty
loop waiting for events and printing them, it is fine, but not really
useful...).
Any idea about how to avoid this are welcome. Is there something the
app do about that (I mean, my app will respond to the double-click
correctly evn if it arrives late, so why is
it---apparently---discarded?).
Thanks,
Yves.
--
Advocates for the C++ school claim that a well designed Yves Arrouye
program does not need the extra flexibility (a lie), Yves.Arrouye@imag.fr
while advocates for the Objective-C school claim that (33) 76 57 48 64
the errors are no problem in practice (another lie). NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye)
Subject: Emacs with NEXTSTEP look and feel?
Message-ID: <ARROUYE.94Jan31190728@petole.imag.fr>
Sender: news@imag.fr
Organization: LGI-IMAG, Grenoble, France
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 18:07:27 GMT
Hello,
Some time ago, there was a looooooong thread about a real NEXTSTEP
version of Emacs 19, which was unfortunately rejected bu the FSF. Does
anyone know if the code (or the patches) has been posted, or is
available somewhere, anyway?
Thanks for any pointer,
Yves.
--
Advocates for the C++ school claim that a well designed Yves Arrouye
program does not need the extra flexibility (a lie), Yves.Arrouye@imag.fr
while advocates for the Objective-C school claim that (33) 76 57 48 64
the errors are no problem in practice (another lie). NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "J. Shan Bell" <bellj@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Research Chapter 11??
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.143931.21559@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
References: <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com> <2ij5v6$q5g@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 14:39:24 -0500
In article <2ij5v6$q5g@wave.aoml.erl.gov>,
Mark Powell <powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov> wrote:
>In article <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart
>Hamlyn) writes:
>> Anyone know what happened to Pinnacle, authors of Pagechain, Transfer,
>> etc...? I've been trying to order products from the for two months
>haven't
>> succeeded (no answer, etc...)
>I've been trying to get in touch with them to place orders for "Transfer"
>but have not been able to contact anyone either. I was given an alternate
>address but received no response from it either. Does anyone know what has
>become of them? Transfer sounded like a really nice app easy to use
>without the headaches of SLIP. If we can't reach them then I'll have to
>spend lots of time learning about SLIP.
>--
>Dr. Mark D. Powell
>Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
>NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
>Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
--
________________________________________________________________
// Internet / J. Shan Bell \ BITNET \\
// bellj@indiana.edu //////|||||||||\\\\\\\ bellj@iubacs.bitnet \\
//_____________________// NeXT mail accepted \\_____________________\\
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cmart@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (Chris Martin)
Subject: -- Need suggestions for a video card...
Message-ID: <cmart-310194105048@cisco-slip43.acc.virginia.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 15:50:48 GMT
I need some suggestions for a video card for NEXTSTEP for Intel.
640x480x2 is a little useless.
What is the fastest I can get?
Is there a problem with the ATI GUP? What about the #9GXE level 11 or 12?
Are there any other cheaper cards out there?
Thanks in advance.
--
Chris Martin -- All Opinions expressed are mine
cmart@uva386.schools.virginia.edu
"Never Hesitate to Obfuscate"
From: tec@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy E. Cushing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Rumors of Upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2
Date: 31 Jan 1994 19:34:36 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2ijmgc$3fg@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2ibiil$p6j@bilbo.suite.com>
In article <2ibiil$p6j@bilbo.suite.com>, <Mark-Tarbell@suite.com> wrote:
>1. I have heard that it is possible to upgrade directly to NS3.2 from
>NS3.0 (without going through the NS3.1 upgrade step). True?
Gee, good thing you didn't post this last week, since I just did upgrade from
3.0 to 3.2 directly, without a second thought (my first thought being 'why
go through all the pain of upgrading to 3.1 when I can just wait for 3.2
to be out and 3.0 is fine in the mean time').
I did work fine, sort of, and I think the problems I've had are largely
operator (me) error and bad planning (I'm simultaneously moving to a new HD
and maintaining compatibility with a net of SPARC, PC and Mac machines).
The only real (?) bug was that the new system failed to find the fonts in
/LocalLibrary/Fonts and wouldn't even find /LocalApps for the longest time.
It magically fixed itself over the weekend (I haven't asked around whether
someone else here figured it out).
tec@alta.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: WANTED: network sound playing info
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.121608.1458@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <1994Jan27.233810.12210@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 12:16:08 GMT
Did you try enabling the Public Sound Server preference on the remote
machine?
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <1994Jan27.233810.12210@Princeton.EDU>
mb@orchard.Princeton.EDU (Matthias Blumrich) writes:
> Hi. If I'm logged onto a NeXT machine, is there a way to play a
sound
> remotely on a different NeXT machine? I tried logging in to the
remote
> machine, but sndplay wouldn't run. Please send responses to
> mb@cs.princeton.edu. Thanks!
>
> - Matt -
From: mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Miron Cuperman's PPP
Date: 31 Jan 1994 20:50:53 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ijqvd$cp4@news.UU.NET>
Does anyone have the email address of the author of this (Miron Cuperman, I
presume), because I have a few questions for him, which, I will of course, let
loose here as well.
1. PPP will NEVER engage the first time around. It will connect, try to
negotiate and then come back with PPP: Network is Down. Always happens the first
time. Without fail.
2. The second time it will connect and then negotiate, stop talking and
then just hangup and die. No error is given.
3. This time it engages and goes about its business.
4. Are there any other packages I can use for PPP that I don't have to
spend bucks on? :) This one works great, but I want to make sure I am not
missing anything.
5. What's the status on DOOM for Black hardware?!?!?!
=====================================================
Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
=====================================================
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Librarian problems
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2if8qm$io4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 08:58:56 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.085856.11761@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefano Pagiola (spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu) wrote:
> Gerhard Moeller writes
> > > we are having some problems when using WriteNow files with
> > > Librarian.
> >
> > Actually this is a FAQ:
> >
> > The solution is to put the following entry in a file called
> > ThirdPartyFilters.service in ~/Library/Services, or
> > /LocalLibrary/Services.
>
> <deleted>
>
> Is there an equivalent way to get Librarian to work with WP files?
Inside the WordPerfect.app folder there is a file called wp-ascii and wp-rtf.
You entry should look something like:
Filter:
Port: NXUNIXSTDIO
Send Type: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:wp
Return Type: NXRTFPboardType
Executable: /LocalApps/WordPerfect.app/wp-rtf
or
Filter:
Port: NXUNIXSTDIO
Send Type: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:wp
Return Type: NXAsciiPboardType
Executable: /LocalApps/WordPerfect.app/wp-ascii
By the way: Since 3.? it looks like NeXT chose to use .service folders with
an executable and a file called services in it. (Same contents as above.)
But both ways of doing it seem to work for me. Is that correct?
Gerhard.
--
+---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+
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X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: How do I get Frame documents to load up on FrameMaker3.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2ielj6$3am@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 09:32:00 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.093200.11906@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Travis L Edwards (edwardtl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu) wrote:
> I have a problem opening .frame files. Every time I click on them it
> opens up Edit instead of FramMaker. If I drag the file over on top of the
> FrameMaker icon and hold down on the command key it will work. Otherwise
> it doesn't. Does anyone have any hints as to how to go about fixing this?
> Thanks
>
FrameMarker is not in your "ApplicationPaths". To find out what your
"ApplicationPaths" is, type (in a shell):
dread Workspace ApplicationPaths
Then either change the "ApplicationPaths" with dwrite or simply move
FrameMaker to a folder within the path.
Gerhard.
--
+---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+
N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N
e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
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From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: version management and control software ?
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.182720.2542@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <1994Jan29.110327.8819@proximus.north.de>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 18:27:20 GMT
I'd also like to mention VNP Software's DevMan product. For more
information, write rvs@vnp.com or call + 1 617 661 4292.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <1994Jan29.110327.8819@proximus.north.de>
gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> Helmut Fichtinger (eidosat!fichting) wrote:
> > Having a good tool for version management and control under NS is
my never
> > ending dream!
> >
> > Does anyone know something about the app DRCS from Software
Services
> > Solution Inc. respectively the address (e-mail, etc) of this
firm?
>
> Two of them:
> SS&S, Main office Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
> sss@sss.com
> (203) 630-2000
> (203) 630-2020
> 94 Murray Street
> Meriden, Connecticut 06450
> USA
>
> SS&S, Pacific Northwest Regional Office Software Services and
Solutions, Inc.
> sss@pnw.sss.com
> (206) 860-9295
> (206) 860-6896
> 1222 East Crockett Street
> Seattle, Washington 98102
> USA
>
>
> Hope, it helped, Gerhard.
> --
> +---------------------------< principiis obsta!
>---------------------------+
> N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*:
02/21/1968] N
> e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice):
+43-1-7151531 e
> X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
NeXTmail X
> T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer
encouraged! T
> +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group:
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From: bonnie@umiacs.umd.edu (Bonnie J. Dorr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: question about using "meta key"
Date: 31 Jan 1994 17:27:50 -0500
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ik0l6$9gd@carissa.umiacs.umd.edu>
How do I get the Meta key to work in emacs? ESC is too much of a
pain. Can I set things up so that I can use the Alt or the Command
key?
(Please e-mail to bonnie@umiacs.umd.edu.)
Thanks!
Bonnie Dorr
From: bonnie@umiacs.umd.edu (Bonnie J. Dorr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Date Book program ??
Date: 31 Jan 1994 17:38:42 -0500
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ik19i$9ja@carissa.umiacs.umd.edu>
I recently switched to the new version of NEXT Step (actually not so
new anymore --- 3.0) from 2.X. In the old version, there was a neat
calendar program that looked like a date book, where you could open it
up and put appointments, etc. (Each page was a full month with big
blocks that you could write in.) Now that I have the "new" OS, I
can't seem to find anything resembling this program. I found
something called "calendar" in usr/lib and /usr/bin, but these seem to
be simple unix calendar commands.
I liked the datebook application that I had before and would like to
get it back. Anyone know where this could have gone and how I can
find it?
(Please e-mail me at bonnie@umiacs.umd.edu.)
Thanks,
Bonnie Dorr
From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to combine chunks?
Date: 31 Jan 1994 20:08:03 GMT
Organization: This Space for Rent.
Message-ID: <2ijof3$4e8@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <CKEDF8.290@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
Keywords: mousex
In article <CKEDF8.290@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>,
Thomas Hintz <dhinz@dread> wrote:
>from cs.orst.edu but now need to now if I need to do something
>special to combine these files into one large file before decompressing
>and untarring. Or do I just decompress/untar each of the chunks?
I think someone mentioned this already, but you need to make sure you have a
qualified address in your From line or a Reply-To: field.
The best way to do this is to use the command "cat" from the terminal.
What I did was type "cat /OpticalDisk/X/work/* /OpticalDisk/X/Xbin.tar.Z"
You must cat the files before you unpack and untar them.
Of course, this will take a little time (esp. if you do it on an Optical
Disk).
--
mallen@nwu.edu
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GISO use
Date: 31 Jan 1994 20:14:44 GMT
Organization: This Space for Rent.
Message-ID: <2ijork$4ji@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In order for GISO to convert the file successfully, you need to set the
pop-ups to the proper type of sound.
For instance, if you have a .wav file and you want to play on the next, you
would set the input file to .wav format and the output file to .au format.
Pick Save As in the File menu if you want to save the sound as a different
name (instead of the default /tmp/ name)
sndplay will play .au files
I'm not sure how to convert .au->.snd files though.
--
mallen@nwu.edu
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kwang@lore.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Re: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.233814.149395@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <1994Jan23.185908.6837@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 23:38:14 GMT
In article <1994Jan23.185908.6837@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes:
> > For months people have been asking about a NeXTSTEP Mosaic, and for
> > months people have replied "someone" is working on it. I should think
> > that if Someone were working on it They would offer a Beta out to the
> > general public to get feedback and bug notifications. I should also
> > think that Someone would tell us so that people like me would stop
> > whinging that there isn't one.
> >
>
> Agreed. If somebody is SERIOUSLY working on a full-blown HTML viewer or
> viewer/editor for NEXTSTEP, please speak up. Secrecy is not a good idea
> in the NEXTSTEP software community. A commercial product is fine; I'd
> gladly spend several hundred dollar per copy (and buy several copies)
> tomorrow, if it was a high-quality product. The alternative is to spend
> far more money to write one myself (or pay somebody to write one). I
> might be willing and able to do that, but only as a last resort.
Found a version 1.0 that's out, but buggy:
19921211000000Z 410691 gatekeeper.dec.com
/.3/net/infosys/www/bin/next/WorldWideWeb_1.0.tar.Z
It isn't that great, and looks a lot like xmosaic (big surprise).
- Kevin
From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GatorFTP NSI fixed?
Date: 31 Jan 1994 23:53:09 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2ik5l5$clp@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
The version of GatorFTP for NSI crashes during gets. Is there a newer
version available? I got my current version off of cs.orst a couple of weeks
ago and haven't seen anything more recent.
Tal
--
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"I think the students learned an important lesson on safety."
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From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Research Chapter 11??
Message-ID: <1994Jan31.235359.54598@yuma>
Date: 31 Jan 94 23:53:59 GMT
References: <2ij5v6$q5g@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
In article <2ij5v6$q5g@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark
Powell) writes:
> In article <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart
> Hamlyn) writes:
> > Anyone know what happened to Pinnacle, authors of Pagechain, Transfer,
> > etc...? I've been trying to order products from the for two months
i've been talking to a Pinnacle salesperson for the last 2 weeks
about some optical drives. even ordered and received some disks
from them last week.
perhaps Pinnacle Micro is not the same as Pinnacle Research?
i dunno. do they have a hardware and software division?
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PLEASE READ: BIZARRE EXPERIENCE WITH NeXT PRINTER
Date: 30 Jan 1994 11:39:23 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ig69bINNlsh@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
I have a bizarre experience to report on trouble with
printing on the NeXT LaserPrinter I just bought from Sam Goldberger.
I have a NeXTstation Color 25MHz:
- 32MB RAM
- 500MB External Fujitsu HD
- Software Version 3.2 (Lightning5S)
- Serial Number ABC 0006073
which I will call "LIBRA" for brevity.
I bought a 400DPI NeXT LaserPrinter:
- NeXT 400dpi Level II Printer
- Serial Number: AAC 0015251 (February 1992 M)
which I will call "NLP" for brevity.
When I try to print, I often, but not always, get incomplete pages after
which
NLP tries to re-print two more times. Sometimes it fails and other times
it succeeds. The console shows the following messages while that is
happening:
error
At this point, LIBRA shows me a dialog box informing me that some or all
of the requested pages may not have been printed.
***** The bizarre part begins here ********
I have conducted *extensive* testing of LIBRA with 3 other printers:
1) NeXT 400 DPI Printer: AAC 0000164 (April 1988 T)
2) NeXT 400 DPI Printer: AAC 0013319 (November 1991 M)
3) NeXT 400 DPI Printer: AAC 0016334 (March 1992 M)
Please note that the third printer is very close to my printer in
manufacturing date. It was also purchased from Mr. Goldberger. LIBRA
prints with no problems whatsoever with these printers. I have tested a
total of about 70-100 pages and it works fine.
On the other hand, NLP was connected to:
1) A NeXTstation Color Turbo Software Version 3.1 (Lightning4H)
2) A NeXTstation Color Turbo Software Version 3.1 (Lightning4H)
3) An older NeXTDimension Cube Software Version 3.0 (Hyper3B)
4) NeXTstation color 25MHz Software Version 3.2 (Lightning5S)
This is similar to libra. It is actually newer than LIBRA
with ROM version 2.5 v 66 M (1991) while LIBRA is 2.4.
NLP printed perfectly with all four computers.
I only face problems when I connect NLP to LIBRA. I have used the same
printer cable In all connections. I have moved the setup to four
different locations with the same results. One of the four locations was
in a totally different part of town. I tried different toner cartridges:
no difference.
This is driving me crazy because I can not point the finger at any
component. LIBRA works with three other NeXT printers without any
problems and NLP works with four other NeXT computers with no problems. I
have so far printed about 150-200 testpages using PrintManager, WriteNow,
Preview. The only time I get a failure is when libra is connected to NLP,
why????
Does any one know of an incompatibility between an older 25MHz Color
NeXTstation and a 400 DPI NeXT Laser Printer manufactured February 1992?
But if that is the case how come LIBRA was able to print to the other
Printer which is only a month newer than NLP????
Please help in any way you can. Thank you.
---
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: envelopes?
Message-ID: <2ik7ab$dmr@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: 1 Feb 94 00:21:31 GMT
References: <2ii9u3$fua@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
In article <2ii9u3$fua@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@soda.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
writes:
> In article <2ii7j3$rkr@nntp2.stanford.edu>,
> Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >William E. Aitken writes
> >> Is there any PD, shareware, or inexpensive commercial software to
> >> support the printing of envelopes, address labels, and the like
> >> on the NeXT?
> >
> >StayInTouch does this (and you get a free address book :-). It sells
> >for $50 edu, I think.
> >
>
> Poste.app also does envelope (and for free, I think) It's in
> pub/next/2.0-release on sonata.
>
And let's not forget MindOverMail for small- to medium-size mail order
businesses. Look at readme file for more info.
cs.orst.edu archive in /pub/next/productivity
--------------------------------------------------------------
Tim Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu
Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270
Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064
NeXTmail ok!
From: dockd@storm.cs.orst.edu (Dion Dock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to combine chunks?
Keywords: mousex
Message-ID: <2ikar7INNbbs@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
Date: 1 Feb 94 01:21:43 GMT
References: <CKEDF8.290@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com> <jeffo.759908753@uiuc.edu>
Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
>
>>I down loaded the X11R5-basics.tar.Z.chunk.* files
>>from cs.orst.edu but now need to now if I need to do something
>>special to combine these files into one large file before decompressing
>>and untarring. Or do I just decompress/untar each of the chunks?
>
You must combine them into one large file. You could always use pipes
if you are short of disk space. I can't remember if the Workspace is
capable of doing this automatically.
-dion
--
Dion Dock __ __
dockd@storm.cs.orst.edu / ) / ) /
(now dion@pi.com) / / o ______ / / _____. /_
next-ftp@cs.orst.edu (no NeXTmail) /__/_<_(_) / <_ /__/_(_) (__/ <_
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From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Re: Wanted: Chinese Apps
Message-ID: <CKFuw5.C6H@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
References: <whFbwqe00VIdA=3ndV@andrew.cmu.edu> <2i8h76$374@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <CKB8r2.4r0@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 10:38:28 GMT
kcchen@polyp.micro.umn.edu (kim chen) writes:
> Could you post more info. about chinese software package for Nextstep,
>(especially NS/I).
> How can I get them ? (commerical/free)
> Thanx.
> Kim Chen
I want it too!
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
From: mdavis@cs.yorku.ca (Michael Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for music notation software
Message-ID: <2192@yetti.UUCP>
Date: 1 Feb 94 02:31:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.2192
Sender: news@yetti.UUCP
Distribution: world
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Hello All,
I am wondering if there is any shareware or freeware for doing music
notation. I don't need MIDI or sound generation, just something that
lets you edit music graphically. I'd like to be able to paste the
output into a text document.
It doesn't have to be fancy, I just need to be able to show single-line
melodies ...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I'd also like to hear about commercial software, come to think of it...
Yes, of course it's for the NeXT, black or white.
Thanks,
Michael Davis
mdavis@cs.yorku.ca <- text mail welcome here
mdavis@multipath.com <- NextMail welcome here
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: uucp doesn't want to play 9600. Arrrrrrrgh.
Date: 31 Jan 94 17:45:20
Organization: Dubious.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Jan31174520@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
I have a DEC MTE d2 running NS/i 3.2 equipped with a SupraFAXmodem on COM1.
I'm using a modem cable which ostensibly supports hardware handshaking.
Unfortunately, while it works at 2400bps, it doesn't work at 9600bps, failing
with "Noisy line - set up RXMIT" messages.
I know it isn't the other host; I've tried it on two completely different ones.
I know it isn't the dialin switch---I've tried three different ones.
I don't know if it's the cable, though. I've tried two---both the one that I
bought and the one from Supra, both of which allegedly support hardware
handshaking. But I can't tell---they're both molded.
So I'm a bit stuck at the moment. I'm not familiar enough with uucp to know
what's going on.
If it helps any, I also note than when I dial out (using Kermit), I get a bunch
of spurious ^Ss (really annoying in Emacs) every so often. I'm not sure what
to do about that.
Also, does anyone know of a Kermit that obeys uucp locking, as tip does?
---Ken McGlothlen
mcglk@cpac.washington.edu
mcglk@cpac.bitnet
From: garth@cs.swarthmore.edu (Garth Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: question about using "meta key"
Date: 1 Feb 1994 04:25:09 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Message-ID: <2iklj5$t5p@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
References: <2ik0l6$9gd@carissa.umiacs.umd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
bonnie@umiacs.umd.edu (Bonnie J. Dorr) writes:
> How do I get the Meta key to work in emacs? ESC is too much of a pain.
> Can I set things up so that I can use the Alt or the Command key?
Yes. In Terminal's Info->Preferences panel, select the VT100 Emulation
preferences and turn on "Alternate key generates Escape sequences." This
will make Terminal interpret Alternate-e as Escape + e (for example).
Garth
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Re: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Message-ID: <CKJ2IE.BsH@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <1994Jan31.233814.149395@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 04:08:24 GMT
In article <1994Jan31.233814.149395@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
kwang@lore.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang) writes:
> In article <1994Jan23.185908.6837@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
> gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes:
> > > For months people have been asking about a NeXTSTEP Mosaic, and for
> > > months people have replied "someone" is working on it. I should think
> > > that if Someone were working on it They would offer a Beta out to the
> > > general public to get feedback and bug notifications. I should also
> > > think that Someone would tell us so that people like me would stop
> > > whinging that there isn't one.
> > >
> >
> > Agreed. If somebody is SERIOUSLY working on a full-blown HTML viewer or
> > viewer/editor for NEXTSTEP, please speak up. Secrecy is not a good idea
> > in the NEXTSTEP software community. A commercial product is fine; I'd
> > gladly spend several hundred dollar per copy (and buy several copies)
> > tomorrow, if it was a high-quality product. The alternative is to spend
> > far more money to write one myself (or pay somebody to write one). I
> > might be willing and able to do that, but only as a last resort.
>
> Found a version 1.0 that's out, but buggy:
>
> 19921211000000Z 410691 gatekeeper.dec.com
> /.3/net/infosys/www/bin/next/WorldWideWeb_1.0.tar.Z
>
> It isn't that great, and looks a lot like xmosaic (big surprise).
Sorry, but this is WWW not Mosaic. They do differ quite a bit.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software...
From: christina.morte@canrem.com (Christina Morte)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <60.8367.2746.0N19326B@canrem.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 01:31:00 -0400
Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario)
Greetings.
I require some information for someone else. I'm not a NeXT user,
however I'm looking for sites, ie: FTP sites where I can get
NeXT software from. Also, can anyone please include in this list,
what is the most common free software available for the NeXT
computer and what is "needed" by most users?
Regards,
Christina
... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GISO (Was Re: .Wav files)
Date: 1 Feb 94 07:28:46 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.760087726@uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Jan31.085222.1390@info.ucl.ac.be> <2ije3d$237@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Stefano Pagiola writes:
>I have GISO, but must admit I'm pretty clueless as to how to use it.
You might want to use just sox. All you need to do (for most things) is
the following:
$ sox myFile.snd myFile.wav
to convert myFile.snd to a .wav file (sound for Windows). The reverse
will work to convert sound files the other way. With this you're not
going to get the optimal output, and I'm sure there are more accurate
ways of reproducing the sound file while converting it to other
formats, but if you just want to hear something, try this.
(You can see how it's not the optimal setting [or how sox is really
damaging the soundfile] by taking a soundfile and converting it to
another format and back to the original format.)
I agree that sox is far too complicated for folks that don't know
stuff about sounds and sound file formats, hope this helps. I've used
it to convert .wav files and .snd files back and forth lots of times.
--
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to combine chunks?
Date: 1 Feb 94 08:54:17 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.760092857@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <CKEDF8.290@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com> <2ijof3$4e8@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Keywords: mousex
Mark Allen writes:
>The best way to do this is to use the command "cat" from the terminal.
>What I did was type "cat /OpticalDisk/X/work/* /OpticalDisk/X/Xbin.tar.Z"
Actually, typing that should result in an error if the last file
doesn't exist, or spew a bunch of garbage to the window or screen.
Perhaps what you meant was:
cat /OpticalDisk/X/work/* >/OpticalDisk/X/Xbin.tar.Z
(note the ">" character for output redirection)
Alternatively, you could pipe this straight to zcat and tar to save
some diskspace:
zcat /OpticalDisk/X/work/* | tar xvf -
(check the manpages if you want different options)
But I thought you could just drag the first chunk to the destination
and the File Viewer would prompt you for the remaining chunks (if they
can't be found). Or does this only work this way from floppies (it
shouldn't matter if it's coming from floppies or a hard disk, but...)?
--
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: dekorte@ibm8.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen L. DeKorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Fonts From Trilithon Software [Was Re; What font packages are available?]
Date: 31 Jan 1994 23:39:28 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
Message-ID: <2ik4rg$oal@mailer.fsu.edu>
References: <2i9vvn$tl@usenet.rpi.edu> <1994Jan30.195053.2045@trilithon.com>
>Avant Garde Book Avant Garde Book Oblique
>Avant Garde Demi Avant Garde Demi Oblique
Anyone know where I can find this font for free? If not what's
the least I need to spend to get it and from where? I'm only
interested in this font.
Thanks for any help,
Steve
PS please respond by email.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do I get Frame documents to load up on FrameMaker3.0
Message-ID: <1994Feb1.083456.13951@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 08:34:56 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1994Jan31.093200.11906@proximus.north.de>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1994Jan31.093200.11906@proximus.north.de> writes:
> Travis L Edwards (edwardtl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu) wrote:
> > I have a problem opening .frame files. Every time I click on them it
> > opens up Edit instead of FramMaker. If I drag the file over on top of
the
> > FrameMaker icon and hold down on the command key it will work.
Otherwise
> > it doesn't. Does anyone have any hints as to how to go about fixing
this?
> > Thanks
> >
>
> FrameMarker is not in your "ApplicationPaths". To find out what your
> "ApplicationPaths" is, type (in a shell):
>
> dread Workspace ApplicationPaths
>
> Then either change the "ApplicationPaths" with dwrite or simply move
> FrameMaker to a folder within the path.
>
> Gerhard.
> --
> +---------------------------< principiis obsta!
>---------------------------+
> N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*:
02/21/1968] N
> e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice):
+43-1-7151531 e
> X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
NeXTmail X
> T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer
encouraged! T
> +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
<-+
Or perhaps it is in the path but Edit comes first. In this case, click on
the icon of a .frame document, type command-2 then click on the Frame
application icon and click 'set default'. From now on Frame will be called.
-Robert
--
Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de
Subject: Re: faxcleanup - Input file format ?
Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System)
Message-ID: <CKJn54.Go6@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 11:41:28 GMT
References: <2ijdee$sp4@vampir.hnv.icem.de>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
> I wonder what is the format of the files being processed by
> /usr/lib/NeXTPrinter/faxcleanup?
> There seems to be absolutely no documentation under NS3.0 !?
Try the following : create a file with a three byte-header followed
by the g3-fax-data.Like this:
char header[3];
header[0]='0';
#if fax_is_graylevel
header[1]='1';
#else
header[1]='0';
endif
#if NeXTSTEP > 30
header[2]='1';
#else
header[2]='0';
#endif
Write the header and g3-body in a file named 'tmpfax.001' (1^= first page)
Create a null-length file named 'tmpfax.fax'
execle("faxcleanup","faxcleanup","1","tmpfax",NULL,NULL) (1^= one page)
That's it.
---
so long - jolly
=======================================================
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Centrum fuer Informations und Sprachverarbeitung der
Ludwig Maximilians Universitaet Muenchen
Tel: ++49 +89 -211 06 70 (priv) +89 -950 57 34
"...,about a tenth of the cabin trunks where full of
vivid, and often painful or uncomfortable memories of
her past life; the other nine-tenth were full of
penguins, wich surprised her." - taken from DA_MNAR
=======================================================
From: wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Date: 1 Feb 1994 13:56:32 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <2iln2g$jbl@svin01.win.tue.nl>
References: <QhH6TFa00iV9A7J25k@andrew.cmu.edu>
Keywords: key bindings
In article <QhH6TFa00iV9A7J25k@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> ...
> other key should delete in front of the cursor. The Unix/NeXT world has
> decided that backwards deletion should be performed by Delete (\177),
> which does not match up with what the standard PC keyboard does.
> Forward deletion can be performed by Ctrl-D, (particularly in
> Emacs-keybindings-influenced interfaces), but Ctrl-H is also a possible
> alternative, particularly on PC-based keyboards. Unfortunately, most PC
> keyboards have Del and BS switched from the way Unix programs expect.
>
> If you switch the meanings of BS and Del on a PC keyboard, you will
> probably be much happier.
>
> -Chuck
I don't like these Emacs Key bindings at all. The use of the arrow keys
seems to be more natural and therefore easier to remember. The Emacs key
bindings seem to be remnants of the time of ancient key boards without
arrow keys. Also, I repeatedly press the Ctrl key inadvertently, when I
try to press A. As a consequence, I find out that I am typing at a
completely different place than I thought I was. I would like to have
different key bindings. For instance:
* To end of line: Ctrl-right instead of Ctrl-E
* To begin of line Ctrl-left instead of Ctrl-A
* To end of document Ctrl-down instead of Alt->
* To begin of doc. Ctrl-up instead of Alt-<
* Forward word Shift-right instead of Alt-f
* Back word Shift-left instead of Alt-f
* Forward page Shift-down instead of Ctrl-V
* Back page Shift-up instead of
* Delete next Char Shift-delete instead of Ctrl-D
* Delete to eol. Ctrl-delete instead of Ctrl-K
The key bindings Ctrl-(B,F,H,N,P) are superfluous, because they are
duplicated by the arrow keys.
Is there a possibility to modify the Emacs bindings?
________________________________
Malo Hautus
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Eindhoven University of Technology
P.O. Box 513
5600 MB Eindhoven | Tel. +31 40 472628 | NeXT mail
The Netherlands | Fax. +31 40 465995 | accepted
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Date: 1 Feb 94 13:10:06 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.760108206@maotai>
References: <2ho6id$ro3@mercury.dur.ac.uk> <1994Jan23.185908.6837@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes:
>Agreed. If somebody is SERIOUSLY working on a full-blown HTML viewer or
>viewer/editor for NEXTSTEP, please speak up.
We're working on a WYSIWIG HTML Editor for NeXTstep, and expect
a beta version for end of february. It'll be in the public domain.
Have patience :-)
Chris
/*
* Christian Neuss % neuss@igd.fhg.de % ..in the humdrum
*/
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Plotting and Statistics (GraphBuilder)
Date: 1 Feb 1994 15:26:16 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <2ilsao$p1m@genesis.ait.psu.edu>
References: <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu>
In article <2i3ho3$p2@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu> farsh@radius.ortho.sunysb.edu
(Farsh Guilak) writes:
> Does anybody know of a really good, presentation-quality software package
> for scientific graphing and plotting? I am looking for something akin to
> Kaleidegraph or Cricket graph for the NeXT. One thing I am having a lot
> of trouble finding is the ability to put error bars on data points and bar
> graphs.
>
> Thanks...
> Farsh
Howdy folks,
The fellow at VVI (Ed VanVliet, 814-234-9613) wrote me back
with this comment which I though was worthwhile to pass on to
the net. It sure is nice to have a variety of good affordable
graphing packages from which to choose--now if only the same
could be said for page layout software! ;) Anyhow.....
GraphBuilder plots error bars on the following type of plots:
Marker only, linear interpolation, smoothed interpolation,
bar charts (bars up and down) any of which can be filled (area
plots), except marker only of course. Data sampling can be
irregular on the x-axis. A marker is a graphic or eps so you can
make any type you need (or use a pre-made one).
The error is input in the same unit as the data as errors, that is,
if the data is at a y-value of 50 and the error is 5 then the error
bar is drawn from 45 to 55. If the y-value is 50 and the error is
specified as 6,7 then the error bar is drawn from 44,57 (note the
delta aspect and the absolute value). The error bars can be
straight up-down lines, lines with horizontal bars at the end,
or rectangles. The variable error-bar graphic attributes are
color, line width, and bar width (in points). The easiest way to
get data in is to paste from the pasteboard in the format {{x1,
y1},{x2, y2},...} {{e1l,e1h},{e1l,e1h},...}. - which is
Mathematica Table[] format. Once in the data can be changed
graphically using mouse editing or by re-parsing data from the
inspector editor.
Since GraphBuilder is fully programmable (minimally
stripped and shipped with all header files, about 200 of them)
the data can be acquired and displayed in real time (about a few
times per second for 512 data points). Plotting multiple plots
per graph is no problem, just paste in (or acquire) more data.
GraphBuilder is scheduled to ship 2/14/94 - our Valentine's
Day package to the wonderful people who purchased
GraphBuilder before we bought the boxes to ship it in. I thank
the patient and very welcome news netters who purchased
GraphBuilder before the ship date based on my last post and will
make a more general announcement after GraphBuilder ships.
Incidentally, it is our policy to build in as many types of data
parsing as a customer needs so if you have a specific
requirement let us know!
Thanks and happy netting,
Ed VanVliet; Project Manager
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bakerb@il.us.swissbank.com (Brian Baker)
Subject: Backup Ideas
Message-ID: <1994Feb1.170954.28958@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:09:54 GMT
Greetings,
I'm about to purchase a backup system for my Cube (with 1.6GB of storage
online). At the moment, I'm leaning toward either the Exabyte 4200c or
the HP35480A DAT drives, and SafteyNet. If anyone has any experience
dealing with these products, or has alternative suggestions, I'd like to
hear from you.
For example, does anyone know the difference between these two drives?
The specs appear identical (4-8GB capacity, with compression, similar
speeds, etc).
Profuse thanks in advance,
Brian Baker.
bakerb@swissbank.com
bbaker@its.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn)
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM drives, help!!!
Message-ID: <CKK0z5.F4D@pts.mot.com>
Keywords: usa, world
Sender: news@pts.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 16:40:17 GMT
I'm so close I can taste NeXTStep running on my Versa. I got the 12 megs,
bought the damn docking station, bought a 340MB internal drive, bought
this Adaptec Card for the damn docking station. Now I try to boot NeXTStep
and it doesn't recognize my CD-ROM drive. Doesn't recognize the NEC
triple-spin, or the old Sony I have, or my (God Forbid.) Sun CD-ROM drive.
According to the hardware compatibility guide only two CD-ROM drives work
with NeXTStep:
CD ROM DRIVES
Vendor Model Notes
_____________________________________________________________________
NEC CDR - 74 External
NeXT Sony 541 External
Now the CDR-74 is discontinued, so even if I wanted it (which I don't) I
can't get it. Same is true for the NeXT drive. Now, is the NeXT Sony 541
the same drive as the Apple CD300?? What drive are we supposed to buy to
install NS? Why are there only two drivers on the floppy. Why not just
ship more floppies with more drivers.
I know. I know. Why as Why?
But then again, if I can't get NSFIP up and running, how is Joe consumer
going to do anything but send NeXT a mail bomb after dealing with these
headaches. Of all the drives to support, why two discontinued ones.
Help anyone.... Bueller?
Thanks,
Stu
------------------------------------------------------------
Stuart Hamlyn
Motorola Inc.
Applied Research MS 71
1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue
Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292
(407)-364-3997
(407)-364-3904 (FAX)
stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com [NeXTMail preferred]
From: kay@nagasena.muc.de (Kay Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: coXist
Date: 1 Feb 1994 17:20:45 +0100
Organization: Firestone Chaotic Group
Message-ID: <2ilvgt$77@nagasena.muc.de>
Hi Netters
I have bought coXist and I have some problems with it.
Since the support couldn't help me yet, I will ask the net.
1.) The cursor keys in vi and emacs don't work, but they
do in xemacs
2.) no german keyboard is supported. I tried lots of xmodmaps
and I know from other people that they did, too but
no success
3.) I wanted to compile xv and after a while it was ready,
but when i start it, it says:
Floating exception
4.) When I compile sources which uses Motif libraries I get the
the following error:
Make: Don't know how to make ./lib/Xm/libXm.a
Looks like an error in the Imake.tmpl files
5.) Did someone compile xcolors
Thanks
--
Kay Schulz
kay@nagasena.muc.de
NeXTmail accepted
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: Chinese Apps
Date: 1 Feb 1994 15:52:04 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2iltr4$5i2@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <whFbwqe00VIdA=3ndV@andrew.cmu.edu> <2i8h76$374@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <CKB8r2.4r0@news.cis.umn.edu> <2iga88$9e@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <2igp16$esp@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Waihon A Kwong (wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: In article <2iga88$9e@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>,
: *** Mark Lin *** <u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw> wrote:
: >PS: All the Chinese software are only available in NS/FIP (no FAT)
: WHY????? Is everything written in Assembler???
: What can we do to have a BLACK NeXT Version? I will offer my help if there is
: anything I can do.
Since the keymapping of PC is something different wiht workstation, so
the company still have no project for Black recently.
the other reason is that the company uses ** KeyPro **
Mark
PS: I will go home tomorrow since our dorm will close during the holidays
of Chinese News Year, and I will tell them about the suggestion in
Net.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:59:15 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UhHfGHW00WBN46hchW@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2iln2g$jbl@svin01.win.tue.nl>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 1-Feb-94 Re: a delete key
(not backs.. by Malo Hautus@bs.win.tue.n
> I don't like these Emacs Key bindings at all. The use of the arrow keys
> seems to be more natural and therefore easier to remember. The Emacs key
> bindings seem to be remnants of the time of ancient key boards without
> arrow keys. Also, I repeatedly press the Ctrl key inadvertently, when I
> try to press A. As a consequence, I find out that I am typing at a
> completely different place than I thought I was. I would like to have
> different key bindings.
Well, it's a fairly simple observation that you are faster typing and
editing if you don't have to move your hands from the home row. Moving
to the cursor keys really slows you down, while Ctrl-{F,B,N,P} does not.
> [..munch..]
> Is there a possibility to modify the Emacs bindings?
Yes. Consult the Emacs FAQ for instructions.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: rlion@think.digex.net (rebel lion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: what is mosaic?
Date: 1 Feb 1994 21:02:03 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <2img0b$csf@news1.digex.net>
i know i'm going to get flooded with replys about this, but i've always
kind of wondered what mosaic was, and now that i cna post by clicking with
newsgrazer, i figured i ask..!
--
Eli Rosenblatt (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail))
/\ Rebellion Systems
\/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, repair, and Sales
From: "Thomas G. Mon" <tm31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Keyboards
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:18:50 -0500
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ohHhJ_a00Uh_M7g0lN@andrew.cmu.edu>
HELP ME!
My friend poured a wine cooler into my "OLD-old-style" NeXT keyboard and
now it's sort of dead. Where can I get another? Is anyone willing to
sell theirs?
We tried cleaning it, but no go. I need help!!!!!
Tom.
tm31@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu
Subject: simple calculator/adding-machine
Message-ID: <1994Feb2.005648.8314@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 00:56:48 GMT
Does anyone know of a simple, basic, common-sense, reliable
calculator and/or (virtual) adding-machine type of program for NeXTStep (for
black boxes)?
The only two or three calculator programs, that I've seen for
NeXTStep, are wierd, to put it bluntly. They might be very familiar to the
most-deeply-entrenched of computer-and/or-math geeks but there's something
very operationally positive (pun intended or not) about a simple little basic
arithmetic calculator or adding machine --i.e., one in which you press the
plus sign after each number you want to add and a minus sign after each
number you want to subtract and a "/" between the dividend and the divisor
and a "*" between each pair of factors when you want to multiply; one that
has clearly defined "C" and "CE" keys; one that has simple Subtotal, Total,
and "=" buttons. When it comes to everyday office calculations, such a
simple little tool is invaluable. But I have not yet seen any such program
for NeXTStep. I think that maybe (PROBABLY) all NS-oriented developers are
so taken with the bells and whistles of NS that they (including the NeXT Inc
developers of the OS, itself) forget about the basic and practical stuff
(such as keyboard equivelants, but don't get me started:-/ ).
Anyway, enough (mild) ranting. If anyone knows of a simple and
logical and basic calculator program for NS then please let me know about it
and tell me where & how to get it.
Mucho tx.
--sherlock
(sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu)
From: mallen@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to combine chunks?
Date: 1 Feb 1994 21:23:30 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Message-ID: <2imh8i$3l2@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <jeffo.760092857@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes
: Actually, typing that should result in an error if the last file
: doesn't exist, or spew a bunch of garbage to the window or screen.
: Perhaps what you meant was:
:
: cat /OpticalDisk/X/work/* >/OpticalDisk/X/Xbin.tar.Z
:
: (note the ">" character for output redirection)
:
I forgot the >. Thanks for reminding me.
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From: pjcreath@flagstaff.Princeton.EDU (Peter Janssen Creath)
Subject: Searching for a good MOD player and de-LHAer
Message-ID: <1994Feb1.214313.10691@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 21:43:13 GMT
The subject really says it all. I have Paula 1.0a, but I seem to
remember hearing of a much better one. I also need to de-LHA the MOD's
I FTP...
Please reply by e-mail, since I don't normally read this newsgroup.
TIA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gery@ares.fdn.org (gery)
Subject: How do I get Image (previously from appsoft)
Message-ID: <1994Feb1.180906.412@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
References: <1994Feb1.083456.13951@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 18:09:06 GMT
If somebody know how to get Image (previously from Appsoft)
or an equivalent on intel processor
Some of our clients are interested...
Thank you by advance
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy N 1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: One program on multiple screens: How?
Message-ID: <1994Feb2.044741.17242@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 04:47:41 GMT
We are setting up a lab and one of the qualifications for the equipment
purchased is that it can show an instructor's screen (or window of importance)
to the rest of the students who are also on machines of their own.
We have considered hardware solutions (video flip boxes), but these are
expensive and lack elegance. Is there a piece of software that can fit
the bill (PD, SW, or Commercial) ? Is there something like this for X
Windows? For Macintosh? Would rather it not be the latter two, but need
to know anyway.
Thanks,
greg
From: mcli@minnie.Read.TASC.COM (Maurice C. Ling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: libg++.a compilation
Date: 1 Feb 1994 16:16:25 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <2ilv8pINN6id@jumbo.read.tasc.com>
Hi everyone,
I'm having some troubles getting libg++.a version 2.5.3 working with
gcc 2.5.8. When running "make check", it dies on the first test_h.cc
program, giving:
ld: Undefined symbols:
_S_ISREG
_S_ISCHR
Has anyone else compiled the recent versions of libg++?
Thanks,
-Maurice
BTW: system is a NeXTcube '040 with 16M RAM
From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ns3.1 or ns3.2 ?
Date: 1 Feb 1994 16:15:55 GMT
Organization: Suite Software
Message-ID: <2ilv7s$jq8@bilbo.suite.com>
References: <2i93u2$bqf@Chart.McRCIM.McGill.EDU>
In article <2i93u2$bqf@Chart.McRCIM.McGill.EDU>
emstech@improv.music.mcgill.ca writes:
> We have a LAN of 10 NextStation, 7 on NS2.1, 1 on NS3.0 and 2 on NS3.1.
> The server and the mail server are on NS2.1.
>
> We want to upgrade all the machines to NS3.X version.
>
> My problem is I don't know if we should go for NS3.1 or 3.2. In the past
> we almost upgraded all of our machines to 3.0, but we found out that 2.1
> was more reliable.
>
In my opinion if 3.1 was ok 3.2 will be also(I've run both)
> We now have two 3.1 systems they seem pretty okay.
> I am just not sure that 3.2 is not another bad upgrade, like 3.0 was.
> I will appreciate any comment that will help me decide which version I
> should buy.
>
3.2
> One ting is sure we can't stay with our NS2.1 system, most of the new
> software won't work.
>
> Will they be any major problem if NS3.0, 3.1 & 3.2 share the same LAN?
no
> And at last, will the NextStep developer kit that came with 3.1 work on
> 3.2 ?
>
no
> Thanks,
> Alain
> Mcgill University, Music Faculty
> emstech@music.mcgill.ca
Your welcome...
Scot
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Rumors of Upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2
Date: 2 Feb 1994 07:17:06 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2ink1i$3hd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2ibiil$p6j@bilbo.suite.com> <2ijmgc$3fg@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
tec@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy E. Cushing) writes:
>In article <2ibiil$p6j@bilbo.suite.com>, <Mark-Tarbell@suite.com> wrote:
>>1. I have heard that it is possible to upgrade directly to NS3.2 from
>>NS3.0 (without going through the NS3.1 upgrade step). True?
>Gee, good thing you didn't post this last week, since I just did upgrade from
>3.0 to 3.2 directly, without a second thought (my first thought being 'why
I recently did a 2.1->3.2 without any trouble. (Well, it did delete
WriteNow, but I just snagged that from another machine where I had
saved it from the olden days)
It was over a network ("A network upgrade server") so I didn't need
to fiddle with a boot disk or anything.
--
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University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Re: Librarian problems
Message-ID: <BDMLB3HQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <1994Jan27.140353.592@dbulm1.uucp>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 09:46:36 GMT
Jochen Gloger (gloger@dbulm1.uucp) wrote:
> Hi,
> we are having some problems when using WriteNow files with Librarian.
> Since NeXTSTEP 3.0 (we are currently running 3.1) Digital Librarian does no
> longer work with WriteNow files. It simply does not find any entry! Does
> anybody know a solution to this problem?
> Thanks in advance
> Kind regards
> Jochen Gloger
The following entry is in /NextLibrary/Services/Indexing.service/services.local
Filter:
Port: NXUNIXSTDIO
Send Type: NXTypedFilenamePboardType:wn
Return Type: NXRTFPboardType
Executable: /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/wn-rtf
perhaps WriteNow is not, where it's expected to be?
e.g. Frame expects it to be in /NextApps but other Apps expect
to find it in /LocalApps.
Just try a bit...
Ciao, Stephan
--
trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: mcli@minnie.Read.TASC.COM (Maurice C. Ling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: libg++.a compilation
Date: 1 Feb 1994 20:48:46 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <2imf7eINNc63@jumbo.read.tasc.com>
References: <2ilv8pINN6id@jumbo.read.tasc.com>
Maurice C. Ling (mcli@minnie.Read.TASC.COM) wrote:
: Hi everyone,
: I'm having some troubles getting libg++.a version 2.5.3 working with
: gcc 2.5.8. When running "make check", it dies on the first test_h.cc
: program, giving:
: ld: Undefined symbols:
: _S_ISREG
: _S_ISCHR
: Has anyone else compiled the recent versions of libg++?
: Thanks,
: -Maurice
: BTW: system is a NeXTcube '040 with 16M RAM
BTW, I'm running NS 3.0. I saw that ftp.next.com has
a libg++ pkg, but it's only good for NS3.1.
I would like a stable environment to develop c and c++ code.
Would it be best to just use the old libg++ version 1.39(?).
thanks,
-Maurice
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where's TipTop NS/FIP?
Date: 2 Feb 1994 13:54:01 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2iob9p$68t@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Subject says it. Can't find it anywhere on archives.
I thought it was around a month ago or so.
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins Univ.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: wolf@lanl.gov (David R Wolf)
Subject: TeX
Message-ID: <1994Feb1.202800.3661@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 20:28:00 GMT
Is it possible to load a later version of NextTex
onto a system running an earlier version of the NeXT OS?
(Say the TeX from 3.2 onto NeXT 2.1?)
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=======================================================================
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=======================================================================
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: libg++.a compilation
Date: 2 Feb 1994 13:48:18 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2ioav2$1a4@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2ilv8pINN6id@jumbo.read.tasc.com> <2imf7eINNc63@jumbo.read.tasc.com>
mcli@minnie.Read.TASC.COM (Maurice C. Ling) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>BTW, I'm running NS 3.0. I saw that ftp.next.com has
>a libg++ pkg, but it's only good for NS3.1.
>
>I would like a stable environment to develop c and c++ code.
>Would it be best to just use the old libg++ version 1.39(?).
>
>thanks,
>
>-Maurice
Use cross posting next time.
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From: jamastro@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help w/SLIP logon
Message-ID: <1994Feb2.085438.3562@ivax>
Date: 2 Feb 94 08:54:38 -0500
Recently I got Louis A. Mamakos' SLIP up and running on black hardware
to access an Internet Provider. However, I'm having trouble establishing
a connection in that the provider's end seems to hang up before (or
sometimes right after) sending the password.
Everything works except their end hangs up while I'm waiting for the
*assword* prompt.
Any suggestions? Here's what my trace file is giving me:
TRACE 2> expect timeout {error "waiting for password"} "*assword*"
RECV: \r\nNO CARRIER\r\n
expect: does {\r\nNO CARRIER\r\n} match timeout, eof, or full_buffer? no
{*assword*}? no
expect: set expect_match {\r\nNO CARRIER\r\n}
expect: timed out after 5 secnds
TRACE 3> error "waiting for password"
script error: waiting for password
I get the feeling that there is some parameter that I've neglected,
but just can't find it in any documentation.
I'd appreciate any help
From: aka@amelie.mit.edu (Alia Atlas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: emacs with X
Date: 2 Feb 1994 14:31:12 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2iodfg$ijq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Does anyone have a copy of emacs for the NeXT hardware running 3.0 which
has X built in?
Thanks,
Alia
aka@space.mit.edu
From: dhoyman@sparky.fammed.wisc.edu (Dirk Herr-Hoyman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X11R5 lib for NeXT
Date: 2 Feb 1994 15:25:52 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <2iogm0$84r@news.doit.wisc.edu>
I'm looking for already build libraries to run under X11R5. I need
these to build GhostScript (which I need for the conversion of ps to ppm
...). I have the XNeXT with the Xmouse, but it doesn't have the
prebuilt lib files (the .a ones). I found the include/X11/*.h files
elsewhere, but I'm trying to avoid having to build ALL of X11R5 just for
the libraries.
If some kind soul has these for NS 3.0 and would share them, I'd surely
appreciate it.
--
Dirk Herr-Hoyman
Internet Publishing Specialist
hoymand@joe.uwex.edu
From: dicosmo@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Roberto DiCosmo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs with NEXTSTEP look and feel?
Date: 2 Feb 1994 16:59:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2iom62$1q1@netnews.upenn.edu>
References: <ARROUYE.94Jan31190728@petole.imag.fr>
> Some time ago, there was a looooooong thread about a real NEXTSTEP
> version of Emacs 19, which was unfortunately rejected bu the FSF. Does
> anyone know if the code (or the patches) has been posted, or is
> available somewhere, anyway?
I remember that Lucid seemed to be interested in the port.
Has anybody any better news? I _seriously_ propose to revive this thread
and try to convince the FSF to change its mind: after all, OpenStep is a
new event that ought to convince them that such a move would not be time
thrown away.
Otherwise, I'll be happy to go with Lucid, if they support native NeXT.
--Roberto
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Broken Doom!
Date: 2 Feb 1994 17:36:25 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2iooap$65f@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I downloaded Doom from cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/games/
The app Icon has a question mark on it (indicating a broken app), and
when I try to run it I get a "broken" message. Is this binary Intel/
Motorola or FAT? I'm running NSI 3.2. Is there a working binary
for this system? Any help much appreciated. Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: New TurtleBeach Tahiti sound card with 56001 DSP
Message-ID: <Feb.2.15.01.39.1994.5113@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Date: 2 Feb 94 20:01:39 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
The new Tahiti sound card from Turtle Beach has a 56001 DSP. The
card costs $399.00. Any MusicKit programmer/user want to gain
NeXTStep fame by writing a driver for it under NS/FIP?
Steven C. Perkins perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: bora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ImageViewer
Date: 2 Feb 1994 19:37:31 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2iovdr$l57@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the source
code for ImageViewer. I checked the archives and I only
found the binaries. I would like to modify ImageViewer
to convert to Windows BMP and GIF formats so this
could be benificial to more than just me.
thanks
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--------Be excellent to each other--------
From: rlion@think.digex.net (rebel lion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Archie2.05a - how to get?
Date: 2 Feb 1994 21:14:31 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <2ip53n$5pn@news1.digex.net>
References: <CKGLAs.5yo@eunet.ch>
In article <CKGLAs.5yo@eunet.ch> Goetz.von-Escher@open.ch (Goetz von
Escher) writes:
> I got the self installing ArchieSrc.pkg from sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
>
> If I try to install package then I get an error: 'There were problems
> connecting to the computer superc.che.udel.edu'. It seems that this
> site does no longer support anonymous ftp! (I tried manually)
>
yah seriously! i had the same exact problems...it'd be nice if someone had
a package that actuall worked!
--
Eli Rosenblatt (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail))
/\ Rebellion Systems
\/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, repair, and Sales
From: rlion@think.digex.net (rebel lion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: wanted: info about a good word processer
Date: 2 Feb 1994 21:16:25 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <2ip579$5ps@news1.digex.net>
wordperfect for NeXT is *okay* but i need something that can
a) actually handle bold / italics okay without messing up
b) can do charts...like take a table of numbers and make a chart (this
isnt a total requirement i realize i might need another program for this)
kind of like "microsoft works" in the sense that it can do wordprcoesser /
spreadsheet together..?
anyone?
--
Eli Rosenblatt (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail))
/\ Rebellion Systems
\/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, repair, and Sales
From: mickey@grendel.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Broken Doom!
Date: 2 Feb 1994 21:29:16 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ip5vc$5e2@news.UU.NET>
References: <2iooap$65f@netnews.upenn.edu>
Gee, I'd love to have a broken Doom.app for Black Hardware... any word on that?
=====================================================
Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
=====================================================
From: Ralph_Zazula@next.com (Ralph Zazula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Research Chapter 11??
Date: 2 Feb 1994 20:59:05 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ip46p$8rm@rosie.next.com>
References: <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com>
Howdy -
I'm hoping that this post will help clear up a few issues regarding
Pinnacle Research, Inc.
I stepped down as President/CEO of Pinnacle Research to begin working at
NeXT, Inc. in November of last year.
The products PageChain, Transfer and the series of Workspace Manager
inspectors ("Inspected by: Pinnacle") are no longer being distributed
through Pinnacle Research. These products are owned by me and will,
hopefully, be back in distribution soon.
If you have an immediate need for one of these products, contact me at
"zazula@hitower.com".
As you may have read, WetPaint was aquired by Lighthouse Design, Ltd. I
wish them great success as they bring even cooler versions of that product
to market - hold on to your hats!!
The MIDI sequencer appliction "Pinnacle Sequence" (formerly "Presto") will
continue to be sold by Pinnacle Research.
I want to thank everyone who supported my efforts at Pinnacle Research. I
hope to continue to bring good to the NEXTSTEP community through my
position at NeXT.
See you in class...
Ralph
---
Ralph Zazula
Developer Trainer
NeXT, Inc.
Ralph_Zazula@next.com
(415) 780-2893
------------------------------------------
Will program for food, expenses + $200/hr.
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: wanted: info about a good word processer
Date: 2 Feb 1994 23:09:55 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2ipbs3$crq@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2ip579$5ps@news1.digex.net>
rebel lion writes
> wordperfect for NeXT is *okay* but i need something that can
> a) actually handle bold / italics okay without messing up
There's lots to criticize in WP/NS, but handling italics and bold is
not of othem. What exactly is your problem? You might just need a
recent release of the app; there was a bug that appeared with the
switch to NS 3 that was fixed in later maintenance releases (dated
after Jan 93).
> b) can do charts...like take a table of numbers and make a chart
> (this isnt a total requirement i realize i might need another
> program for this)
Cutting and pasting graphics across apps is so easy under NeXTSTEP
that I've never found this to be a problem. Just fire up Mesa, or
Improv, or whatever, create the chart, and then paste it over.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: version management and control software ?
Message-ID: <1994Feb2.155205.2358@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <1994Jan28.191515.872@free.fdn.org>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 15:52:05 GMT
While RCS is a good tool, it's not appropriate for NEXTSTEP
development. It can't handle file bundles (.nibs anyone?) and has a
command line interface. There is a superset of RCS called CVS which
is also free and does handle bundles. However, I'm not sure if this
capability is in the stock version or in a special NeXT version. In
any case, it's free.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <1994Jan28.191515.872@free.fdn.org> fabien@free.fdn.org
(Fabien Roy) writes:
> In article <2i8o5b$33q@eidosat.eidos.co.at> eidosat!fichting
(Helmut
> Fichtinger) writes:
> > Having a good tool for version management and control under NS is
my
> never
> > ending dream!
> >
> > Does anyone know something about the app DRCS from Software
Services
> > Solution Inc. respectively the address (e-mail, etc) of this
firm?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > helmut
> >
> >
> >
> > e-mail fichting@eidos.co.at
>
> free> man rcs
>
> RCS(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual RCS(1)
>
> NAME
> rcs - change RCS file attributes
>
> SYNOPSIS
> rcs [ options ] file ...
[description deleted]
> free>
>
> Cheers 8^)
>
> --Fabien
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org
> NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Research Chapter 11??
Message-ID: <1994Feb2.155423.2418@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <1994Jan31.235359.54598@yuma>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 15:54:23 GMT
Pinnacle Research != Pinnacle Micro.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <1994Jan31.235359.54598@yuma>
kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes:
> In article <2ij5v6$q5g@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark
> Powell) writes:
> > In article <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com
(Stuart
> > Hamlyn) writes:
> > > Anyone know what happened to Pinnacle, authors of Pagechain,
Transfer,
> > > etc...? I've been trying to order products from the for two
months
>
>
> i've been talking to a Pinnacle salesperson for the last 2 weeks
> about some optical drives. even ordered and received some disks
> from them last week.
>
> perhaps Pinnacle Micro is not the same as Pinnacle Research?
> i dunno. do they have a hardware and software division?
>
> kelley wittmeyer
> dept of atmospheric science
> colorado state university
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From: prem@wri.com (Prem Chawla)
Subject: Mathematica is prospering
Message-ID: <CKMCL3.6vx@wri.com>
Sender: prem@wri.com (Prem Chawla)
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 22:46:15 GMT
We'd like to set straight a confusion:
A few notices have appeared about a company that was previously called
Mathematica, Inc.. This company recently changed its name to Tempra, Inc.
and has since filed for bankruptcy.
This company has nothing whatsoever to do with Wolfram Research, makers
of Mathematica -- a system for technical computing.
Mathematica, Inc. was a manufacturer of a multimedia product called
Tempra. It recently agreed to change its name to Tempra, Inc. in
order to avoid confusion with Wolfram Research's Mathematica product.
Tempra, Inc. (previously known as Mathematica, Inc.) has now filed for
Chapter 7 bankruptcy.
While we are at it, we should set straight another confusion: Wolfram
Research also has nothing to do with a Princeton-based company called
Mathematica Policy Research (MPR), which conducts social policy
research and surveys on such issues as healthcare. This company was
founded in the 1950's; Wolfram Research has an agreement with it
concerning the use of the name Mathematica.
Whatever the fortunes of other companies that are using the name
Mathematica, we are happy to report that Wolfram Research continues to
grow and prosper. 1993 was a good year for us, and we are anticipating
that 1994 will be even better. Mathematica is now used every day by
hundreds of thousands of scientists, engineers, mathematicians,
educators, students, financial analysts and others around the world,
and we look forward to maintaining our high quality of support for the
Mathematica community in the years to come.
Prem Chawla
Chief Operating Officer
Wolfram Research, Inc. Wolfram Research Europe Ltd.
100 Trade Center Drive Evenlode Court, Main Road
Champaign, Illinois 61820 Long Hanborough, Oxon OX8 2LA
phone: 217-398-0700 UNITED KINGDOM
fax: 217-398-0747 phone: +44-(0)993-883-400
email: info@wri.com fax: +44-(0)993-883-800
email: info-euro@wri.com
Mathematica (R) is a registered trademark of Wolfram Research, Inc.
From: brandyn@apple.com (Brandyn Webb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Terminal colors
Date: 2 Feb 1994 15:59:23 -0800
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc., Cupertino, California
Message-ID: <2ipeor$hlc@apple.com>
Is it possible to change the foreground/background colors of Terminal
windows under 2.1? (Reverse video would be fine--"color" is figurative.)
Please reply via mail as I have limitted net access.
Thanks,
-Brandyn (brandyn@brainstorm.com or brandyn@apple.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: edmond@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Edmond Mesrobian)
Subject: PDO info
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <1994Feb02.234122.8588@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 94 23:41:22 GMT
Hi,
I would like to hear about user experiences using NeXT's PDO on UNIX
platforms (HPs, Suns).
thanks,
Edmond
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: One program on multiple screens: SUMMARY
Message-ID: <1994Feb2.235114.16580@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 23:51:14 GMT
Thanks to all that responded to my post. There is a suitable product
called 'ScreenCast' which is available for both Motorola and Intel.
Here is my contact:
Bill Tschumy
Otherwise
bill@otherwise.com (NeXTmail accepted)
Thanks all,
greg
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www
Subject: Mosaic on NeXT with 16-bit color support
Date: 3 Feb 1994 04:35:18 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ipuu6$6b4@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I just compiled Mosaic 2.1 for NeXT (black) and posted the binaries and
a README with the necessary patches to cs.orst.edu. It's in
/pub/next/submissions/Mosaic-NeXT-2.1c.gz.
Thanks to the folks at co-Xist for showing me how to enable 16-bit color
support---it speeds Mosaic up by about a factor of 2 on a color machine.
This version also has WAIS support compiled in and fixes the temporary file bug
that some users had reported. (A previous version wasn't able to display more
than 25 in-line images.)
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Subject: MicroPhone Pro/NS3.2
Message-ID: <CKMs5y.Ew0@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access Service (310 527-4279)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 04:22:45 GMT
I'm in search of a REAL fix for the zmodem problems that seem to be a
part of the joys of 3.2 for Motorola. Software ventures sent me a beta
which was to have fixed the problem...it didn't.
Help would be greatly appreciated.
Chip
--
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Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 -and-
Long Beach, CA ***NeXTstep on black*** "Keep the blue side up!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Re: Librarian problems
Message-ID: <1994Feb1.213238.15883@afs.com>
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
References: <2if8qm$io4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 21:32:38 GMT
Stefano Pagiola writes
>Gerhard Moeller writes
>>>we are having some problems when using WriteNow files with Librarian.
>>
>>Actually this is a FAQ:
>>
>>The solution is to put the following entry in a file called
>>ThirdPartyFilters.service in ~/Library/Services, or
>>/LocalLibrary/Services.
>
><deleted>
>
>Is there an equivalent way to get Librarian to work with WP files?
To my knowledge, not at the present time. But there will be, soon...
Thanx,
Michael
--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com "Schopenhauer's not as optimistic as Nietzsche,
NeXTMail accepted but he makes up for it by being less cheerful
than Kierkegaard."
- Kim Pizolato
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New TurtleBeach Tahiti sound card with 56001 DSP
Date: 3 Feb 1994 05:50:58 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <2iq3c2$2re@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <Feb.2.15.01.39.1994.5113@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Steve Perkins (perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: The new Tahiti sound card from Turtle Beach has a 56001 DSP. The
: card costs $399.00. Any MusicKit programmer/user want to gain
: NeXTStep fame by writing a driver for it under NS/FIP?
I would gladly but one of these cards if there was NS/I support. Turtle Beach
knows about NS, but they are not doing a port (they don't even support NT --
only Windoze/DOS).
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: MUX Serial Driver
Message-ID: <1994Feb3.024517.1457@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 02:45:17 GMT
Does any one know who to get ahold of for a copy of the serial
driver that was posted here the other day?
Rick
From: laurence@cs.pdx.edu (Laurence F. Hawkins III)
Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.edu,comp.lang.misc,comp.misc,comp.multimedia,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.software,sci.engr,sci.fractals,sci.math,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.symbolic,sci.physics,sci.research
Subject: Re: Mathematica is prospering
Date: 2 Feb 1994 20:49:17 -0800
Message-ID: <2ipvod$2pt@cs.pdx.edu>
References: <CKMCL3.6vx@wri.com>
Just curious, how does Mathmatica rate compared to MapleV ???
/// Laurence F. Hawkins III | Portland | Amiga 3000 030/881/06/340
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: siemund@oberon.engdidakt.fu-berlin.de (P. Siemund)
Subject: appletalk on next
Message-ID: <siemund.1110654133A@news.fu-berlin.de>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 09:08:13 GMT
Does anybody know how to enable the appletalk-protocol on a next (it is
supposed to exist somewhere and some drivers do seem to exist)?
The underlying problem is to print from a next to a mac via ethernet. A
Laserwriter is attached to the mac via ethernet using appletalk, unfortunately.
Looking forward to helpful suggestions.#
Peter.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: siemund@oberon.engdidakt.fu-berlin.de (P. Siemund)
Subject: appletalk on next
Message-ID: <siemund.1110654346B@news.fu-berlin.de>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 09:11:46 GMT
Does anybody know how to enable the appletalk-protocol on a next (it is
supposed to exist somewhere and some drivers do seem to exist)?
The underlying problem is to print from a next to a mac via ethernet. A
Laserwriter is attached to the mac via ethernet using appletalk, unfortunately.
Looking forward to helpful suggestions.
Peter.
From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT print serving for Macs
Date: 2 Feb 1994 15:15:35 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2iog2n$iiv@daffy.ldp.com>
Is there any software (preferably cheap or free) which will allow a
NeXTStation to work as a print server for a group of Macs? I know IPT
at one time had a good deal on their Partner and Partner Plus
products, but they now want over two grand for the package. FWIW, the
Station is running 3.2.
Does CAP have this capability?
--
Rolfe Tessem | Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com | 96 Morton Street
(212) 463-0029 | New York, NY 10014
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: herbert@cwi.nl (Herbert Wiklicky)
Subject: Need Intel driver software for Dove fax modem
Message-ID: <CKnF7L.FEy@cwi.nl>
Sender: news@cwi.nl (The Daily Dross)
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 12:40:32 GMT
--
About one and a half year ago I bought a Dove Fax Modem for my
68040 NeXT Cube. Currently I am transfering my work to a Intel
486 based NeXTSTEP environment. Therefore, I would like to use
the modem on the white hardware. Unfortunately, the driver software
I got is just for the black hardware and (as test show) I can't
use the standard Class II mode driver supplied with NeXTSTEP 3.2.
I am also unable to fix it somehow myself, because I got no
technical documentation for the Dove fax modem. Therefore:
Does someone know about a Dove fax modem driver for
the NeXTSTEP on the Intel 486?
or
Does soemone know about the technical details of the
Dove fax modem (instruction code, class etc.), or how
to get these informations? (e.g. does Dove still exist?)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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email: herbert@cwi.nl Kruislaan 413, Postbus 94079
fax: +31 20 592 4199 1090 GB Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 592 4074 The Netherlands
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From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fax/Modem driver
Date: 3 Feb 1994 15:24:27 GMT
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
Message-ID: <2ir4vb$c1i@hp4at.eunet.co.at>
Keywords: Fax, Modem, Voice
We are desperately looking for a good Fax, Modem, Voice driver for the black
and white hardware. It should be able to send and receive faxes, distinguish
between fax/data calls and voice, cooperate with slip, voice calls etc., the
whole story. We are also interested in getting pieces in source and combine
ourselves.
Any suggestions, experience?
Thanks
Alfred
--
================================
Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption
Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism
Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can
alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the
Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: emstech@improv.music.mcgill.ca
Subject: print from Mac on Nextprinter
Message-ID: <1994Feb3.142719.7236@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:27:19 GMT
Does anyone know if it's possible to print from a Mac on a Next printer.
The Mac is on our Next LAN, I will like to print via the network.
Thanks,
Alain Terriault
emstech@music.mcgill.ca
From: jep9236@tamu.edu (JayBird)
Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.edu,comp.lang.misc,comp.misc,comp.multimedia,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.software,sci.engr,sci.fractals,sci.math,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.symbolic,sci.physics,sci.research
Subject: Re: Mathematica is prospering
Followup-To: comp.ai,comp.edu,comp.lang.misc,comp.misc,comp.multimedia,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.software,sci.engr,sci.fractals,sci.math,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.symbolic,sci.physics,sci.research
Date: 3 Feb 1994 15:57:37 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2ir6th$eel@news.tamu.edu>
References: <CKMCL3.6vx@wri.com> <2ipvod$2pt@cs.pdx.edu>
:>Just curious, how does Mathmatica rate compared to MapleV ???
I have used both, and would have to say it's a close tie. I would rate
MapleV just a little higher, but then again, I've had more experience with
it and am better at using it.
There is one thing that I miss in Maple: being able to just type
x y
and it is interpreted as x*y (works in Mathematica). I don't know, I guess
I'm just biased against *'s. :-)
Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: Improv, TeXTView and print: wondering what broke in 3.2 - black
Message-ID: <CKnxqq.14p@athena.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: CTI, Universite Laval
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 19:20:48 GMT
Dear world,
Here is the problem: I have a TeX document (foo.tex) with a few psfigs (.ps
format). I need to email it to another NeXT, so I print-to-file it from
TeXView (-> foo.ps). So far so good. Just to check, I open the PS foo.ps with
the previewer, it crashes at the first psfig generated from Improv (the others,
which come from Diagram, are OK). That is, the TeX document shows up on preview
until the last line before the improv-figure. Any clue?
btw, the comnsole fills up with cryptic messages, but I ain't no wizard:
Feb 3 13:46:48 arrakis Preview[1024]: DPS client library error: PostScript
program error, DPSContext 234e8
Feb 3 13:46:48 arrakis Preview[1024]: %%[ Error: invalidrestore;
OffendingCommand: restore ]%%
Feb 3 13:52:14 arrakis Preview[1025]: DPS client library error: PostScript
program error, DPSContext 52e58
Feb 3 13:52:14 arrakis Preview[1025]: %%[ Error: invalidrestore;
OffendingCommand: restore ]%%
Feb 3 13:56:54 arrakis Preview[1048]: DPS client library error: PostScript
program error, DPSContext 234e8
Feb 3 13:56:54 arrakis Preview[1048]: %%[ Error: invalidrestore;
OffendingCommand: restore ]%%
I tried recompiling TeXView and dvips, but that did nothing.
Hummmm!!!
Thks!
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+-------------------------------------------------------+
| Antoine Gautier |
| Departement OSD, FSA |
| Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ |
| Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca |
+-------------------------------------------------------+
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS/I Ports anyone?? (Choas & a Modplayer)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 11:34:43
Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis
Message-ID: <nemiroal.56.000B9480@bus.orst.edu>
Hello, I was wondering if anyone was able to recompile Chaos for the NS/I
platform.
In addition, is there a Modplayer for NS/Intel? I know there are Next (black)
binaries only, but no source.
Is anyone working on recompiling most of the old NeXT programs that are
on the net into MABs? If so, I would love to hear about it.
Aleksander Nemirovsky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: How do I get Image (previously from appsoft)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <1994Feb1.180906.412@ares.fdn.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 07:38:23 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb3.073823.16370@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
gery (gery@ares.fdn.org) wrote:
> If somebody know how to get Image (previously from Appsoft)
> or an equivalent on intel processor
> Some of our clients are interested...
As far as I know, Lighthouse has now the rights for some Appsoft stuff.
Also they are selling WetPaint now. Maybe just ask them.
Gerhard.
--
+---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+
N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N
e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
+-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: si@sisnext.sf.ca.us (Lawrence S. Kroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: scanners
Date: 3 Feb 1994 15:48:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402032112.AA03182@sisnext.uucp>
I have a Microtek 300G color scanner.
Is there a software driver to use it on my NeXT?
From: si@sisnext.sf.ca.us (Lawrence S. Kroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: scanner software
Date: 3 Feb 1994 15:48:52 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402032123.AA03198@sisnext.uucp>
What software can drive a
Microtek 300G color flatbed scanner?
From: si@sisnext.sf.ca.us (Lawrence S. Kroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LabelMaker
Date: 3 Feb 1994 15:49:10 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402032138.AA03219@sisnext.uucp>
I have a SmartLabel Printer Plus I used on my Mac.
Is there software that will run it on the NeXT?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jesperse@rahul.net (Dennis Jespersen)
Subject: nxyplot1.89 available
Message-ID: <CKo6p8.A9u@rahul.net>
Summary: Version 1.89 of nxyplot is available from cs.orst.edu
Keywords: nxyplot, plotting, graphing
Sender: news@rahul.net (Usenet News)
Organization: a2i network
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 22:34:19 GMT
The latest version of nxyplot, a program for plotting curves,
has been placed in pub/next/submissions at cs.orst.edu. Look
for nxyplot1.89.tar.gz. The file contains all sources and a
multi-architecture binary.
nxyplot is a program to take (x,y) data from a file (or from
the pasteboard) and plot the curve of y vs. x on the screen.
This version has a few new features, a few bug fixes, and a
NeXT-style help system.
--
Dennis Jespersen Voice: (415) 969-3697
1617 Alison Avenue email: jesperse@rahul.net
Mountain View, CA 94040 We have met the enemy and he is us. -- Pogo
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OK, who wants to write a Newton Connection Kit?
Date: 3 Feb 1994 17:21:56 -0700
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center, Salt Lake City, Ut.
Message-ID: <2is4f4$2vp@u.cc.utah.edu>
I desperately want to buy a Newton (I desperately need one) but HOW THE
HELL DO I PUT IT WORK IN THE ENVIRONMENT I SO CHERISH?
(Sigh.)
Someone out there who is a much better programmer than I am should GO OUT
AND WRITE ONE AND SELL IT TO ME!
Many of my local customers really like their Newtons, but I must admit,
I'm a litte jealous that they can dump their schedules into their
desktop-based boxes and continue on with their lives.
Anyone working on one, just let me know--your first customer.
..........................................................kris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jazz@esq.com (Jasdeep Matharu)
Subject: Need to use Mail between NeXTs and PCs
Message-ID: <CKoCnL.Iqv@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 00:42:53 GMT
Hi there,
We have both NeXTs and PCs and need to communicate to each other
via mail.
What Mail system on the PC's will allow maximum flexibility
with the NeXTs Mail ?
Thanks
Jazz@esq.com :-)
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: print from Mac on Nextprinter
Date: 3 Feb 1994 20:07:39 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <2irlib$a5f@rosie.next.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: dmail 1.8z/makemail 2.1
emstech@improv.music.mcgill.ca writes in comp.sys.next.software:
>
> Does anyone know if it's possible to print from a Mac on a Next printer.
> The Mac is on our Next LAN, I will like to print via the network.
See the NeXT Technical Support FAQ, NeXTanswers document #1470.
For help using NeXTanswers, send mail to NeXTanswers@next.com containing
the word "help"
Dan Grillo
System Support Engineer
NeXT Technical Support
--
Dan Grillo grio@next.com [Try NEXTSTEP for PCs 800-TRY-NEXT]
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to make a backup copy of boot floppy
Date: 4 Feb 1994 01:22:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2is80g$8pt@news.service.uci.edu>
How do you make a backup floppy disk of the NS/I 3.1 or 3.2 boot floppy
disk?
I am afraid something may happen to my installed system and the original
boot floppy.
Thanks.
Feng Liu
UC, Irvine
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X11R5 lib for NeXT
Date: 3 Feb 1994 20:16:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2irm22$n1u@hub.ucsb.edu>
References: <2iogm0$84r@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <2iogm0$84r@news.doit.wisc.edu> dhoyman@sparky.fammed.wisc.edu (Dirk
Herr-Hoyman) writes:
] I'm looking for already build libraries to run under X11R5. I need
] these to build GhostScript (which I need for the conversion of ps to ppm
] ....). I have the XNeXT with the Xmouse, but it doesn't have the
] prebuilt lib files (the .a ones). I found the include/X11/*.h files
] elsewhere, but I'm trying to avoid having to build ALL of X11R5 just for
] the libraries.
]
The authoritative (:-)) place to get them:
foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu: pub/X11R5/X11R5-dev-supplement
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: monte.grubb@mccaw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OK, who wants to write a Newton Connection Kit?
Date: 03 Feb 94 20:18:12
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <mgrubb.94Feb3201812@mango>
References: <2is4f4$2vp@u.cc.utah.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
> Someone out there who is a much better programmer than I am
> should GO OUT AND WRITE ONE AND SELL IT TO ME!
>
blah, blah...(stuff deleted)
>
> Anyone working on one, just let me know--your first
> customer.
>
I've been thinking about it and actually have some resources(cash, programmers...etc) set aside for a project of this nature... I just don't know if there is enough of a market for a Newton/EO connectivity kit????
If there is some interest, please send me email.
I'd like to hear what you have to say!
---
______________________________________________________________
Monte Grubb
Versatile Systems
monte.grubb@mccaw.com
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From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Graphics from NextStep Mathematica to Executor MS Word
Date: 4 Feb 1994 07:25:21 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
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I want to get mathematica graphs into MS Word in the Executor emulator.
Word will read in .eps, but apparently not .ps. NextStep Mathematica will
print .ps to a file but apparently won't save as .eps. Is there any way
around this apparent roadblock?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: izumi@mindseye.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Graphics from NextStep Mathematica to Executor MS Word
Date: 4 Feb 1994 09:28:56 GMT
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In article <2ist91$1dr@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU writes:
>I want to get mathematica graphs into MS Word in the Executor emulator.
>Word will read in .eps, but apparently not .ps. NextStep Mathematica will
>print .ps to a file but apparently won't save as .eps. Is there any way
>around this apparent roadblock?
Mathematica does save eps. Select a graphic sell, do copy (Cmd-c).
Then Edit -> Convert Pasteboard (Cmd-m).
There you see radio selector for TIFF/EPS, select EPS, and
press Save In File button.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $BBg_78^=;(B ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail OK)
From: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ruediger Popp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OK, who wants to write a Newton Connection Kit?
Date: 4 Feb 1994 09:54:01 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
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In article <mgrubb.94Feb3201812@mango> monte.grubb@mccaw.com writes:
> > Someone out there who is a much better programmer than I am
> > should GO OUT AND WRITE ONE AND SELL IT TO ME!
> >
> blah, blah...(stuff deleted)
> >
> > Anyone working on one, just let me know--your first
> > customer.
> >
> I've been thinking about it and actually have some resources(cash,
programmers...etc) set aside for a project of this nature... I just don't
know if there is enough of a market for a Newton/EO connectivity kit????
>
> If there is some interest, please send me email.
> I'd like to hear what you have to say!
>
Write it! It will have the same effect as placing NeXTSTEP on the market:
If enough highly sophisticted software is available, people will buy the
product.
In my Opinion the combination of NeXTSTEP with Newton will soon become one
of the most famous tools at all.
If you need beta testers, then drop me a mail.
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Dept. Chemistry and Technology of Gas, Oil and Coal
University of Karlsruhe (TH)
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76131 Karlsruhe
Germany
E-MAIL: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (NeXT-Mail preferred)
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From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Things of Wonder (help? help? pretty please?).
Date: 3 Feb 94 12:24:51
Organization: Dubious.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Feb3122451@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
These are things which I can't seem to work out yet on my nice new Intel box
running NS/i 3.2. Hardware details: DEC MTE d2 ('486DX2/66) with 32MB RAM,
128K cache, S3-928 card (1280x1024x16), DPT PM2022/90 SCSI card (SCSI ID 7),
ProAudio Studio 16 sound card, 1GB Micropolis 2210 disk (internal, SCSI ID 0),
Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM (external, SCSI ID 1), an Archive Viper QIC-525 tape drive
(external, SCSI ID 2), and a SupraFAXmodem.
I'd appreciate any help anyone has to offer. I really need to get these things
worked out ASAP. Thanks.
---Ken McGlothlen
mcglk@cpac.washington.edu
mcglk@cpac.bitnet
*
I can't get uucp to my host (yang) working at speeds greater than 2400bps.
* I was trying to use an entry for yang in the /etc/uucp/L.sys file that
went through a dialin annex. Unfortunately, for some reason, logging
directly into yang occasionally resulted in a slew of error messages
from an unknown source, so I wound up going in via another machine
(cutter) and getting to yang over the network, therefore explaining
this rather complicated entry (note that this is all on one continuous
line, no matter how this post shows it):
yang Any DIR 9600 cua "" AT OK ATDT5551212 CONNECT "" ation:--ation:
telnet SESSION "" port t\scutter.cpac ogin:--ogin:--ogin: science
ssword: <science_password> % rsh\syang\s-l\sUc3po ssword:
<Uc3po_password>
* On the offchance that it was a problem with that annex, I used a new
/etc/uucp/L.sys entry which went through a completely different annex
instead:
yang Any DIR 9600 cua "" AT OK ATDT5551313 CONNECT ""
name:--name:--name: science ssword: <science_password> > telnet\syang
ogin:--ogin:--ogin: Uc3po ssword: <Uc3po_password>
* But that checked out okay, too. For testing purposes, a friend set up
a uucp account on a completely different system, which we then tried
(and which didn't work, either):
phylo Any DIR 9600 cua "" AT OK ATDT5551212 CONNECT "" ation:--ation:
telnet SESSION "" port t\scutter.cpac ogin:--ogin:--ogin: science
ssword: <science_password> % rsh\sdifferent.system\s-l\sUc3po ssword:
<Uc3po_password>
* The problem is that the connection keeps failing with something about
"Noisy line - set up RXMIT," which doesn't make sense, because the line
doesn't seem to be noisy, and it fails no matter where I am.
* The problem could be flow control. However, I've used two modem cables
(25pin to 9pin) which both claim to support hardware handshaking, and
that's the way I've been trying to use them (AT&K3). On the other
hand, during connections via Kermit at 9600bps through /dev/cufa, I get
an occasional burst of spurious ^Ss. (Incidentally, is there a version
of Kermit that supports uucp-style device locking?)
* A possible solution will be to run uucp over on-demand SLIP, so I'm
trying to get that set up instead. I sure hope that works at 9600bps.
(SLIP would also obviate the immediate need for a uucp-compliant
Kermit.)
* Is there any way to find out where the actual culprit here is?
I can't seem to set up a 9600bps 8-N-1 dialin.
* I followed the directions in the SysAdmin manual, which consisted of
changing the line in /etc/ttys from
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D9600" unknown off
to
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D9600" unknown on secure
Unfortunately, this doesn't work. The best I've been able to do is
change this to
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown on secure
which sets up a 7-E-1 connection. I'd far rather have a nice, standard
8-N-1, but I'm not sure how to convince the NeXT to do that. I
understand that the problem could probably be fixed in /etc/gettytab,
but I'm not sure how attributes get inherited. I see the default:
entry there has "ap" listed (any parity), but it doesn't seem to accept
anything but even parity---if I dial in with 8-N-1, the NeXT refuses to
accept certain characters (notably "m"s, "g"s, and "k"s, making it
awfully hard for me [mcglk] to log in). While I'm using std.9600, it
doesn't seem to inherit any characteristics from anywhere (no "tc="
entry).
I don't know how to set up a usable return address. [Partially fixed.]
* A friend helped me set up things so that now mail sent to
mcglk@c3po.cpac.washington.edu works fine, and mail sent from c3po
appears to come from that address. I'm beginning to understand the
magic of sendmail.cf. However, on this end, I still can't get c3po's
sendmail.cf file to show me the proper ("user@host.domain"-style)
return addresses of incoming mail. For example, when someone sends me
mail from user@host.domain, I receive it as being from
yang!host.domain!user, and I'd prefer that it show up from
user@host.domain. I assume it has something to do with rulesets S2 or
S3 in c3po's sendmail.cf file, but I really don't know what rules to
write.
I can't get my nice new QIC-525 SCSI tape drive to work.
* It's been set to SCSI ID 2. I assume that's either /dev/rst0 or
/dev/rst1. But when I try to do "tar cf - . | dd of=/dev/rstx", I get
"cannot create /dev/rstx".
I can't get Grab to show up in my Services menu.
* I have no idea why this doesn't work. I use Preferences, and it's
enabled, but it doesn't show up in Workspace's menu. But it shows up
in Edit's. Could be that I just don't understand this yet. Anyone
wanna fill me in?
Finger always says "Never logged in" if the fingered user isn't currently
logged in.
* I have no idea why this doesn't work. Seems like it *should*.
/etc/wtmp is open for world-read access. . . .
I frequently get a "no space" error when compiling or trying to get man pages.
* Who was the jerk that came up with this message? Space where? I have
plenty of disk space left over. I have 32MB of RAM and over 300MB of
free disk space. I have 49 processes going (window server, two
terminal windows each running tcsh, a copy of Emacs, various daemons,
console window, daemons, and so on). Is there some low process limit
involved here? I can't find anything in the documentation that says
anything about this.
FileMerge doesn't work as advertised.
* I don't know what this application is supposed to prove. It sure
sounds nice, but when I try to compare two very different files, it
comes up with zero differences. And yet, this reportedly actually
works for other people. Amazing.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Patrick Stein)
Subject: Re: Fax/Modem driver
Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System)
Message-ID: <CKp60o.n5@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 11:17:12 GMT
References: <2ir4vb$c1i@hp4at.eunet.co.at>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
> We are desperately looking for a good Fax, Modem, Voice driver for the black
> and white hardware. It should be able to send and receive faxes, distinguish
> between fax/data calls and voice, cooperate with slip, voice calls etc., the
> whole story. We are also interested in getting pieces in source and combine
> ourselves.
For the ZyXEL-modem is a voice/modem/fax prg. out there on the
ftp server : ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
in : /pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs/am.1.01.s.tar.gz
SL/IP,uucp ... no prob - The only thing that's not supported is
sending faxes - but I cooperates with NXFax.
---
so long - jolly
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Jolly alias Patrick Stein = jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de
Tel: ++49 +89 -211 06 70 (priv) +89 -950 57 34
" If any member of the family should die whilst in the
shelter from contamination put them outside -
but remember to tag them first for identification
purposes " - fgh
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: buster@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster)
Subject: drwite for ACSII collating in File Viewer ?
Message-ID: <CKnu1t.E24@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU>
Sender: usenet@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU (Net News Administrator)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 18:01:03 GMT
Is there a dwrite to make the File Viewer follow the ASCII
collating sequence ? that is, so files are listed as
A-Z followed by a-z rather than Aa-Zz
thanks
-paul
buster@mongrel.Colorado.EDU
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to make a backup copy of boot floppy
Date: 4 Feb 1994 12:12:22 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2ite36$hnk@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
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feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes:
>How do you make a backup floppy disk of the NS/I 3.1 or 3.2 boot floppy
>disk?
Boot a PC with OS/2 or NT (DOS probably works as well, I haven't tried)
and do :
diskcopy a: a:
--
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From: briggss@ucs.orst.edu (Stephen Briggs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: is there SLIP for NS FIP ???
Date: 4 Feb 1994 12:19:58 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2itehe$qr0@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Where can I get a binary for SLIP to run on NS FIP ?
thanks in advance,
-briggss@storm.cs.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov (ben sternlieb)
Subject: Re: Emacs with NEXTSTEP look and feel?
Message-ID: <1994Feb3.150950.4386@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
Sender: Ben Sternlieb
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
References: <ARROUYE.94Jan31190728@petole.imag.fr> <2iom62$1q1@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 15:09:50 GMT
Hi,
I'd be very interested in a port of EMACS to N/S 3.2. Particularly in the
multiplatform enviroment we have here, a single "universal" editor would be
a nice thing. Currently I find myself trying to use my mouse to move around,
and it sure is frustrating.
Ben
From: christ@park.bu.edu (Christian Mannes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to make a backup copy of boot floppy
Date: 4 Feb 94 09:04:43
Organization: B.U. Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Message-ID: <CHRIST.94Feb4090443@park.bu.edu>
References: <2is80g$8pt@news.service.uci.edu> <2ite36$hnk@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
In-reply-to: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de's message of 4 Feb 1994 12:12:22 GMT
>> feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes:
>How do you make a backup floppy disk of the NS/I 3.1 or 3.2 boot floppy
>disk?
>> Boot a PC with OS/2 or NT (DOS probably works as well, I haven't tried)
>> and do :
>> diskcopy a: a:
Or, you just format it in the NeXT format, then su and then
/usr/etc/disk -b /dev/rfd0a
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Message-ID: <1994Feb3.164658.1592@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 16:46:58 GMT
In article <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp> sr@rdbois.fdn.org
(serge_ruby) writes:
> In article <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> >
> > What bothers me already a long time is that in Edit (up to my
> > knowledge) it is no possible to have a DELETE key. I expected
> > something like <shift><backspace> to do the trick, but nop.
> > Maybe I'm overlooking something and if so, who can tell me
> > how to do it.
> >
> I don't think there is anything like this in Edit, but I fully agree
> with you: there is a need for a delete key along withe the backspace key
> and not only in Edit but everywhere in NextStep. Perhaps if we are
> enough to say it the kings of Unix and NeXT will listen to us. By the
> way even Windows has a delete key working properly ie not in the same
> direction as backspace.
Why stop with the Delete key? What about Insert and Home and End and
PageUp and PageDown and all the function keys on Intel keyboards?
Why can't you jump by the word or paragraph? Why doesn't the Intel key
labeled "PrintScrn" bring up the Print Panel? Why isn't there a meta-key
for the missing cursor control keys on black keyboards? Why is the mouse
required to select text, even as small as one character? Why can't you
select text from the keyboard by using the Shift key, like every geeky
DOS and Windows program in existence?
If only someone would introduce a word processor that thought about these
issues. If only... 8^)
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to
Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are
Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
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From: wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner)
Subject: Can't find NS/ghostscript/printer hack info
Message-ID: <1994Feb4.153417.20139@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 15:34:17 GMT
Hello,
I remember there being some way to get ghostscript working with NS
and 24-pin printers, etc.. However I lost the information and can't
figure out where I found it..
Any pointers?
Thanks,
Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: HELP: Printing a color Diagram!2 file on PS Level I printers
Message-ID: <garycCKpJ6v.5v@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:01:41 GMT
Hi netters,
This was posted to c.s.n.m a couple of days ago, but didn't get much
visibility, so here I go again......
I have quite a few NeXTStep Icons which I copied into a Diagram!2.app
file. The diagram file is saved as an EPS file and to be included in a LaTeX
file on other machine with only PS level-1 printer connected to it. I have
two problems to solve:
1) the LaTeX doc including the color icons look perfect on my NeXT, but the
icons disappear on a Sun Sparc running xdvi for preview.
2) The PS-Level-1 printer is not able to print those icons either...
Is there any way to get around with this? Could the color Icon be
saved w/o Pantone color(which is new since Level II)??
Thanks in advance,
Best,
Gary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: WorldWideWeb, Mosaic
Message-ID: <1994Feb4.165541.6901@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <neuss.760108206@maotai>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:55:41 GMT
> We're working on a WYSIWIG HTML Editor for NeXTstep, and expect
> a beta version for end of february. It'll be in the public domain.
Great! Look forward to seeing it.
> Have patience :-)
Tried it once. Made me jumpy.
--
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to double space in Edit?
Date: 4 Feb 1994 19:00:11 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2iu5vr$3j4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
In the endless wait for an NS/FIP word processor (don't
tell me to get Wordperfect!) I'm reduced to Edit, the use of
which J.P. Barlow describes pretty well as the writing equivalent
to a mattress on the floor (actually, more like a sleeping
bag).
So how can I get double spaced lines in Edit? Any hack I
can do?
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: sci.math.num-analysis,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,sci.op-research
Subject: NAG libraries on the NeXT computer
Date: 4 Feb 1994 19:00:15 GMT
Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group)
Distribution: world
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Keywords: NAG NeXT fortran90
This is posted for a friend of mine who has trouble posting due to a corrupted
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Does anyone out there use the NAG Fortran libraries on NeXT computers?
If you do, could you send me a brief note on your experience with them.
In particular, I would like to interested in hearing:
* do the libraries work with NS 3.2 Motorola (they don't work with Intel)
* are there problems in linking code to C or Obj-C code?
* does one really need NAG's Fortran 90 compiler to link programs or can
one use f2c?
Your reply is greatly appreciated.
Axel Merk
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From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: sci.math.num-analysis,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,sci.op-research
Subject: NAG libraries on the NeXT computer
Date: 4 Feb 1994 19:01:07 GMT
Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group)
Distribution: world
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Keywords: NAG NeXT fortran90
This is posted for a friend of mine who has trouble posting due to a corrupted
news server. Please reply to him directly at: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk
==============================================================================
Does anyone out there use the NAG Fortran libraries on NeXT computers?
If you do, could you send me a brief note on your experience with them.
In particular, I would like to interested in hearing:
* do the libraries work with NS 3.2 Motorola (they don't work with Intel)
* are there problems in linking code to C or Obj-C code?
* does one really need NAG's Fortran 90 compiler to link programs or can
one use f2c?
Your reply is greatly appreciated.
Axel Merk
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---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Nuzum ---
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: sci.math.num-analysis,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,sci.op-research
Subject: NAG libraries on the NeXT computer
Date: 4 Feb 1994 19:01:25 GMT
Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2iu625$igq@tunix.cubiculum.com>
Keywords: NAG NeXT fortran90
This is posted for a friend of mine who has trouble posting due to a corrupted
news server. Please reply to him directly at: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk
==============================================================================
Does anyone out there use the NAG Fortran libraries on NeXT computers?
If you do, could you send me a brief note on your experience with them.
In particular, I would like to interested in hearing:
* do the libraries work with NS 3.2 Motorola (they don't work with Intel)
* are there problems in linking code to C or Obj-C code?
* does one really need NAG's Fortran 90 compiler to link programs or can
one use f2c?
Your reply is greatly appreciated.
Axel Merk
-- Axel Merk agm@doc.ic.ac.uk phone/fax +44.71.581 9561 --
-- 10 Queensberry Mews West London SW7 2DU United Kingdom --
-- "One needs a certain amount of blindness to see perfection" --
---------------------------------------------------- Christopher Nuzum ---
From: haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Utility to Divide Archived Newsgroups
Message-ID: <13892@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 4 Feb 94 18:34:24 GMT
References: <CEDMAN.94Jan30083356@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2iglkk$23k@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan30.223856.12456@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
I don't know what format the archives are in. But I have written a Perl
script that takes the files produced by rn (when you use the 's' ("save")
command) and parses them into separate files, one per thread, with the
subject line as file name. It maintains a separate directory for each
newsgroup. Each time you run it, it checks for an existing file for
each subject line, so that, if a thread continues for a long time, all
the saved postings will still end up in the same file -- even if you
sort/archive them in subsequent sessions. It also cleans up the headers
and does a couple of other nice things.
I use this program because, at the moment, I can access the newsgroups
only via an ultrix machine on campus. So, to get the relevant files
nicely arranged on my NeXTstation, I have to save them first from rn,
then download and sort at home.
Your mileage may vary; but if anybody wants it, I'd be happy to send
or post it. (It won't work unless you have Perl.)
John
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: sci.math.num-analysis,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,sci.op-research
Subject: NAG libraries on the NeXT computer
Date: 4 Feb 1994 19:47:23 GMT
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Keywords: NAG fortran90 NeXT
This is posted for a friend of mine, please reply directly to him at:
agm@doc.ic.ac.uk
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Does anyone out there use the NAG Fortran libraries on NeXT computers?
If you do, could you send me a brief note on your experience with them.
In particular, I would like to interested in hearing:
* do the libraries work with NS 3.2 Motorola (they don't work with Intel)
* are there problems in linking code to C or Obj-C code?
* does one really need NAG's Fortran 90 compiler to link programs or can
one use f2c?
Your reply is greatly appreciated.
Axel Merk
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: version management and control software ?
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Robert La Ferla (Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com) wrote:
> While RCS is a good tool, it's not appropriate for NEXTSTEP
> development. It can't handle file bundles (.nibs anyone?) and has a
> command line interface. There is a superset of RCS called CVS which
> is also free and does handle bundles. However, I'm not sure if this
> capability is in the stock version or in a special NeXT version. In
> any case, it's free.
cvs is free and it is a really great tool, but as far as I know (this is
true for cvs 1.3 and NS 3.1 at least) you need to either fix your makefiles
or install the cvs palette in IB, as IB destroys everytime you save a
document very important information for cvs. So be careful!
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Librarian problems
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Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com) wrote:
> Stefano Pagiola writes
> >
> >Is there an equivalent way to get Librarian to work with WP files?
>
> To my knowledge, not at the present time. But there will be, soon...
Sorry, Michael, but you are wrong. (I even double-checked.)
It is NO problem to use DL (in 3.2, I just checked) with WP.
You just need the service proper installed. If someone needs the
service-file and can receive NeXTmail, I'll mail it.
WP gets startet and the search-phrase get selected within WP. No hassles.
But you should (as everything) index within the shell to make the index
static and display the titles with a command like ixbuild -fgslcdv -LEnglish.
See the manpage for ixbuild.
Gerhard.
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From: jeehye@umbc.edu (Jeehye Yun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing to NeXT Printer
Date: 4 Feb 1994 16:16:13 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2iudutINN6ic@umbc7.umbc.edu>
We have a NeXT printer that some pc' need to print to using Novell NFS.
Since the NeXT printer will shut down when it is not in use, the Novell
print server thinks it is offline and backsup the queue.
If we can keep the printer on all the time, the problem will not occur. Is
there anyway to keep the printer in a powered-on state, so that Novell
thinks that it is still on.
I have checked the PrintManager, but I didn't see anything obvious.
Since I don't read this group very often, please e-mail me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jeehye Yun
jeehye@umbc.edu
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From: edwardtl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Travis L Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica is prospering
Date: 4 Feb 1994 21:47:29 GMT
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In article <2ipvod$2pt@cs.pdx.edu> laurence@cs.pdx.edu (Laurence F.
Hawkins III) writes:
> Just curious, how does Mathmatica rate compared to MapleV ???
>
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I go to Rose-Hulman and we have both Mathematica2.2 and MapleV
available. They both have good characteristics. (You knew I was going to
say that didn't you.) MapleV is very good at solving really difficult
equations without crashing but Mathematica is much more versatile and
user-friendly. For a first-time buyer I would recommend Mathematica. It
can do about everything you need it to and it isn't very hard to learn. I
recommend buying "Mathematica Handbook" for even easier understanding.
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Subject: Re: Emacs with NEXTSTEP look and feel?
Message-ID: <1994Feb4.172214.622@news.wesleyan.edu>
From: jlipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Jim Lipton)
Date: 4 Feb 94 17:22:13 -0400
Sender: lipton@allegory (Jim Lipton)
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|> Hi,
|>
|> I'd be very interested in a port of EMACS to N/S 3.2. Particularly in the
|> multiplatform enviroment we have here, a single "universal" editor would be
|> a nice thing. Currently I find myself trying to use my mouse to move around,
|> and it sure is frustrating.
|>
|> Ben
|>
cedman has written and maintains emacs-19-for-next.
available from
lynx.ps.uci.edu:/pub/NeXT/emacs-19-for-NeXTstep
It is significantly better than the next interface for emacs-18.59. Despite a
number of prominent bugs (it's a beta) it is very usable. It has a way to go
before reaching the level of emacs19 for X, but that is an enormous undertaking.
We waited 5 years for emacs19!
This certainly one of the best pieces of free software available for next.
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From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OK, who wants to write a Newton Connection Kit?
Date: 4 Feb 1994 23:36:26 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
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References: <2is4f4$2vp@u.cc.utah.edu> <mgrubb.94Feb3201812@mango>
monte.grubb@mccaw.com wrote:
: > Someone out there who is a much better programmer than I am
: > should GO OUT AND WRITE ONE AND SELL IT TO ME!
: >
: blah, blah...(stuff deleted)
: >
: > Anyone working on one, just let me know--your first
: > customer.
: >
: I've been thinking about it and actually have some resources(cash, programmers...etc) set aside for a project of this nature... I just don't know if there is enough of a market for a Newton/EO connectivity kit????
: If there is some interest, please send me email.
: I'd like to hear what you have to say!
I'd be interesting in buying one, assuming it is much, much better than
the Windoze Connection Kit (this isn't saying too much :-)
-
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
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From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: Re: MicroPhone Pro/NS3.2
Message-ID: <CKpKor.4Bz@chemelex.com>
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:34:03 GMT
Just a short testimonial. I writing to say the the fix beta app
for mircophone II works great for me. In order to make the beta
work for me, I had to attempt to launch the app from root, go
through the two error panels and that seems to complete the apps
installation. Now it works just fine.
I got great email support and am a happy zmodem'er.
Fred
Chip Sieglinger writes
> I'm in search of a REAL fix for the zmodem problems that seem
to be a
> part of the joys of 3.2 for Motorola. Software ventures sent
me a beta
> which was to have fixed the problem...it didn't.
>
> Help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Chip
>
> --
> Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "When all else
fails, just FTFP"
> Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 -and-
> Long Beach, CA ***NeXTstep on black*** "Keep the blue
side up!"
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From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
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Organization: Saperstein, et al.
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 22:12:51 GMT
<thompsonCKq00H.J0B@netcom.com> was cancelled from within trn.
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OK, who wants to write a Newton Connection Kit?
Date: 5 Feb 1994 00:50:04 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
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Yan Fang (yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu) wrote:
: I desperately want to buy a Newton (I desperately need one) but HOW THE
: HELL DO I PUT IT WORK IN THE ENVIRONMENT I SO CHERISH?
: (Sigh.)
: Someone out there who is a much better programmer than I am should GO OUT
: AND WRITE ONE AND SELL IT TO ME!
Man, I was just thinking this the other day. It can't be that hard, hell
Apple put out a connection kit for windows so NeXTStep couldn't be THAT hard.
I have a NeXT station at home and a Cube at the office, and I REALY would
like a connection kit to talk the two with my newton. Also, I would kill
for Melliniums Software's Notebook for the Newton, now THAT would be great.
How about it Mellinium, want to port NoteBook (or part of it anyway) to
the Newton? I would love to be able to write notebooks on my NeXT and
carry them about on the newton.
--
Christian Smith
aka Blackplague
PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
From: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OK, who wants to write a Newton Connection Kit?
Date: 5 Feb 1994 02:43:25 GMT
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
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References: <2is4f4$2vp@u.cc.utah.edu>
Yan Fang writes
> I desperately want to buy a Newton (I desperately need one) but HOW THE
> HELL DO I PUT IT WORK IN THE ENVIRONMENT I SO CHERISH?
bm@cs.columbia.edu has written a simple Sun<->Newton interface. Maybe he
can help you.
--Glenn
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Date: 5 Feb 94 03:02:39 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.760417359@uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp> <1994Feb3.164658.1592@afs.com>
Gregory H. Anderson writes:
>If only someone would introduce a word processor that thought about these
>issues. If only... 8^)
I've got a bunch more questions, but here are a couple:
Why can I (especially in word processor apps, but in text editors too)
only select one range of continuous data, thus forcing me to re-apply the
same characteristics to many items that don't happen to be neighbors?
Why (even in text editors) can't I have styles or some form of
auto-formatting where I can keep a library of styles on-hand as well
as record the style(s) in use with the document so when I take the
document to someplace else, I can also read/print/edit the document
there as it is supposed to appear?
--
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
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From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke)
Subject: AppleTalk printers showing in PrintManager
Message-ID: <1994Feb4.175728.27798@serval.net.wsu.edu>
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We have a LanManager network here, with printers being exported to the
AppleTalk portion of our network. How do I get to be able to choose
Appletalk as the communication port under PrintManager so that I can see
all the AppleTalk zones, ie printers available on the network. Is there
someone who can tell me what to do so that I can print to those printers?
I did it once, and for the life of me I can't figure out what I did!!!!!
Thanks!
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Emacs with NEXTSTEP look and feel?
In-Reply-To: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov's message of Thu, 3 Feb 1994 15:09:50 GMT
To: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov (ben sternlieb)
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 20:29:00 GMT
In article <1994Feb3.150950.4386@bnlux1.bnl.gov> bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov (ben sternlieb) writes:
I'd be very interested in a port of EMACS to N/S 3.2. Particularly
in the multiplatform enviroment we have here, a single "universal"
editor would be a nice thing. Currently I find myself trying to use
my mouse to move around, and it sure is frustrating.
This subject comes up almost every week on c.s.n.*. Doesn't anyone
ever check the news spool or read any other groups of the c.s.n.*
groups than the one they post to ? In any case, the short answer is
that there is an Emacs 19.22 running under NS natively. While it is
still under development, several hundred people have been using it as
their primary editor for some months and seem to be happy with it.
Any one wanting to become a tester just needs to email
cedman@princeton.edu to be put on the mailing list and informed of the
location of the archive site.
Carl Edman
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From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Subject: Re: libg++.a compilation
Message-ID: <1994Feb5.044251.615@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 04:42:51 GMT
In article <2ilvctINN6id@jumbo.read.tasc.com> mcli@minnie.Read.TASC.COM
(Maurice C. Ling) writes:
> [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.software ]
> [ Author was Maurice C. Ling ]
> [ Posted on 1 Feb 1994 16:16:25 GMT ]
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm having some troubles getting libg++.a version 2.5.3 working with
> gcc 2.5.8. When running "make check", it dies on the first test_h.cc
> program, giving:
>
> ld: Undefined symbols:
> _S_ISREG
> _S_ISCHR
>
> Has anyone else compiled the recent versions of libg++?
I have already submitted a bug report to prep.ai.mit.edu
(Jan 3/94). It's rather independent of the minor version
of gcc 2.5.x, and specifically directed at libg++-2.5.3
Solution:
---------
add these defs to libg++-2.5.3/libio/libioP.h:
--
#ifndef S_ISCHR
#define S_ISCHR(mode) (((mode) & S_IFMT) == S_IFCHR)
#endif
#ifndef S_ISREG
#define S_ISREG(mode) (((mode) & S_IFMT) == S_IFREG)
#endif
--
since fileops.c and filedoalloc.c both #include "libioP.h"
and these files are where the macros are called.
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From: sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng)
Subject: Re: OK, who wants to write a Newton Connection Kit?
Message-ID: <CKqp96.D36@mail.auburn.edu>
Sender: usenet@mail.auburn.edu (Usenet Administrator)
Organization: Auburn University
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 07:10:17 GMT
monte.grubb@mccaw.com wrote:
: > Someone out there who is a much better programmer than I am
: > should GO OUT AND WRITE ONE AND SELL IT TO ME!
: >
: blah, blah...(stuff deleted)
: >
: > Anyone working on one, just let me know--your first
: > customer.
: >
: I've been thinking about it and actually have some resources(cash, programmers...etc) set aside for a project of this nature... I just don't know if there is enough of a market for a Newton/EO connectivity kit????
: If there is some interest, please send me email.
: I'd like to hear what you have to say!
: ---
: ______________________________________________________________
: Monte Grubb
: Versatile Systems
: monte.grubb@mccaw.com
: _____________________________________________________________
I know of four people in my family who have NeXTs who would be extremely
interested in a NeXT/EO connection. As for the Newton, it looks
like it needs a little work, but I'm sure we'd be interested in that, too,
especially if they can ever read my chicken-scratch handwriting...
(sigh)
Thanks
- Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
Subject: Re: appletalk on next
Message-ID: <CKqJoo.C1z@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <siemund.1110654346B@news.fu-berlin.de>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 05:09:59 GMT
In article <siemund.1110654346B@news.fu-berlin.de>
siemund@oberon.engdidakt.fu-berlin.de (P. Siemund) writes:
> Does anybody know how to enable the appletalk-protocol on a next (it is
> supposed to exist somewhere and some drivers do seem to exist)?
> The underlying problem is to print from a next to a mac via ethernet. A
> Laserwriter is attached to the mac via ethernet using appletalk,
> unfortunately.
>
> Looking forward to helpful suggestions.
>
> Peter.
Unfortuneately, the AppleTalk the NeXT bundled (bungled) with earlier
versions of NS never worked reliably. They finally gave up and sent folks
to Ushare made by IPT, Inc. I have done MANY installations with both.
Ushare works. The tech I worked with at IPT is Steve Aiena,
stevea@iptech.com. (805) 541-3000. They are located in California (where
else?)
Hope that helps.
Bitte, schick mir E-mail mit weiteren Fragen.
--
Bob O'Connor
Just BOB Macintosh and NeXT Consulting
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Falls Church, VA. 22043-3425 USA
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From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
Subject: German Dictionary for NeXT?
Message-ID: <CKqKDG.C5r@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 05:24:52 GMT
Is there a German Dictionary available for NEXTSTEP?
(I just got HSDSpell. Works great.)
--
Bob O'Connor
boconnor@andi.org
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to double space in Edit??
Date: 5 Feb 1994 16:25:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2j0had$7lm@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
how can I set double spacing in Edit?? Possible?
Thanks
RKD
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From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
Subject: Automating Receiving Faxes
Message-ID: <CKrDEB.FzG@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 15:51:46 GMT
Is there software that will automatically mail incoming faxes to the
proper recipient, without an administrator intervening?
--
Bob O'Connor
boconnor@andi.org
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From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
Subject: ARA Capability in NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CKrDMI.G0K@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 15:56:41 GMT
Does MarbleTeleconnect or some other program offer similar functionality
in NEXTSTEP to Apple Remote Access (ARA) on the Mac. I have some users who
want to run NEXTSTEP on laptops and occasionally dial in to the office
network to check mail, exchange files, and print; i.e, the usual stuff.
--
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From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Need to use Mail between NeXTs and PCs
Message-ID: <CKrDvs.G2o@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
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References: <CKoCnL.Iqv@unix.portal.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 16:02:15 GMT
In article <CKoCnL.Iqv@unix.portal.com> jazz@esq.com (Jasdeep Matharu)
writes:
> Hi there,
>
> We have both NeXTs and PCs and need to communicate to each other
> via mail.
>
> What Mail system on the PC's will allow maximum flexibility
> with the NeXTs Mail ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jazz@esq.com :-)
I think cc:Mail has a (software) gateway for SMTP.
--
Bob O'Connor
boconnor@andi.org
From: esrabkin@jabberwock (Eric S. Rabkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosaic on NeXTStep or co-Xist
Date: 5 Feb 1994 21:30:00 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j134o$lu4@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Keywords: Mosaic co-Xist
Can anyone help me join the revolution? I'm dying to run Mosaic
on my NeXT but can't find software much less installation guidance
for a unix-illiterate such as myself. I'm running a NeXTStation
Color with 12M RAM, NeXTStep 2.1 (which for a number of reasons
I'd rather not upgrade to NS3.x) and also have co-Xist ver 2.1.
Is there some software for NS or co-Xist that will work for me?
I've not been able to locate any much less how to get it working.
I'd prefer to run on NS but will gladly settle for an X application
if someone would be kind enough to tell me where it is and, in
baby language, how to get it going once I ftp it down.
Since I don't follow this newsgroup, would samaritans please
reply to me directly: esrabkin@umich.edu.
Many thanks for all and any help.
Eric Rabkin
Dept of English
Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor MI 48109
313-764-6330
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need to use Mail between NeXTs and PCs
Date: 5 Feb 1994 22:03:29 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
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References: <CKrDvs.G2o@nextsrv1.andi.org>
In article <CKrDvs.G2o@nextsrv1.andi.org> boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
writes:
> In article <CKoCnL.Iqv@unix.portal.com> jazz@esq.com (Jasdeep Matharu)
> writes:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > We have both NeXTs and PCs and need to communicate to each other
> > via mail.
> >
> > What Mail system on the PC's will allow maximum flexibility
> > with the NeXTs Mail ?
> >
PMail (tentative name), which is a product in development by Pujancorp.com
(pranav@pujancorp.com) will allow NeXTmail compatibility with both Windows and
Macintosh platforms.
There is also a planned secure encrytion module add-on for this product, also
under development.
Dave
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From: jfr@squaw.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen)
Subject: Re: version management and control software ?
Message-ID: <CKrpMt.2un@pdh.com>
Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account)
Organization: PDH, Inc.
References: <1994Feb4.075335.18525@proximus.north.de>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 20:16:04 GMT
Gerhard Moeller writes
> Robert La Ferla (Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com) wrote:
> > While RCS is a good tool, it's not appropriate for NEXTSTEP
> > development. It can't handle file bundles (.nibs anyone?) and
> > has a command line interface. There is a superset of RCS called
> > CVS which is also free and does handle bundles. However, I'm not
> > sure if this capability is in the stock version or in a special
> > NeXT version. In any case, it's free.
>
> cvs is free and it is a really great tool, but as far as I know
> (this is true for cvs 1.3 and NS 3.1 at least) you need to either
> fix your makefiles or install the cvs palette in IB, as IB destroys
> everytime you save a document very important information for cvs.
> So be careful!
Basically, CVS stores its own information as a subdirectory in every
directory of your source tree. When you modify a .nib in IB, it
rewrites the entire .nib directory which wipes out the CVS
subdirectory in the .nib as well.
The simple solution (I am not aware of a CVS palette that can be
placed into IB) is to run "make ckout" provided with CVS that stores
a .tar file of all the CVS subdirectories in the highest source
directory. Then, after modifying ANY .nib files, before doing any
further CVS work, run "make ckin" which restores the CVS
subdirectories to their pristine state. This is a bit cumbersome but
it works perfectly.
The only problem is if you FAIL to run "make ckin" at the proper
time, you can risk destroying your .nib files when CVS tries to merge
your .nib files with the repository's .nib files (which is not a
pretty sight :-) So as noted, be careful out there :-)
Jon Rosen
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: We'll need a news app soon...
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Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 07:44:33 GMT
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Todd Takken (takken@raven.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
[...]
> I don't understand what all the fuss is. I'm running NextStep 3.2 on
> black hardware and NewsGrazer 2.0 and things work fine.
(Guess you talk about 72.0)
Well, I use tin, and everything's ok... BUT...
What's really needed is a THREADED newsreader that supports auto-selection
and has a GUI.
Something like trn with GUI would be fantastic!
Gerhard.
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: is there SLIP for NS FIP ???
Message-ID: <1994Feb5.191321.5806@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
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Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 19:13:21 GMT
In article <2itehe$qr0@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> briggss@ucs.orst.edu (Stephen
Briggs) writes:
> Where can I get a binary for SLIP to run on NS FIP ?
A free beta version of TranSys SLIP is available on the ftp archives.
Morningstar PPP, a comercial product thar already runs on NeXTs, is in
beta for Intel systems.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Research Chapter 11??
Message-ID: <2352@heurikon.heurikon.com>
Date: 4 Feb 94 17:54:26 GMT
References: <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com> <2ij5v6$q5g@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Sender: news@heurikon.heurikon.com
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI
stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn) writes:
> Anyone know what happened to Pinnacle, authors of Pagechain, Transfer,
> etc...?
Well, I notice that Lighthouse has announced the acquisition of some
of their work, so this might mean that all those lovely things like
Presto [or do you say "Sequence?"] will never make it to 1.0, and be
left instead to bob upon the waves as offerings to the shark god.
A moment of potential virtual silence....
Gregory
--
Faith is an improvisation. It marks the sky with a double helix of airplanes,
our better humanity, and fills the interstices with a child as the rain falls
and the wind stutters away into the shadows at an ant's pace. Everything
irreperable deserves worship, least gesture of the wind, music./608-828-3385
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Research Chapter 11??
Date: 6 Feb 94 06:49:49 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.760517389@uiuc.edu>
References: <CKCwxz.6Ls@pts.mot.com> <2ij5v6$q5g@wave.aoml.erl.gov> <2352@heurikon.heurikon.com>
Gregory Taylor writes:
>so this might mean that all those lovely things like
>Presto [or do you say "Sequence?"] will never make it to 1.0
Same with another app I think they were working on, a font editor the
name of which escapes me right now.
Was there anyone (or any companies) working on a font editing app?
--
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: lipton@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Jim Lipton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TeX
Date: 6 Feb 1994 07:50:08 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University
Sender: lipton@allegory.cs.wesleyan.edu
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References: <1994Feb1.202800.3661@newshost.lanl.gov>
I have NS/Intel 3.2 with a recent version of Next-Tex, and after hours of
loading fonts from the ams and theory.doc.ic.uk have amslatex running.
However I am having trouble with eufb_ and eufm_ fonts. I have loaded the
corresponding .mf files in the place where metafont expects them, but get
metafont errors: the system complains that it needs tfm fonts for them. Isn't
MakeTeXPK and metafont supposed to generate them automatically? (I have the
switches on for font generation during tex->dvi). How do I get tfm files that
work for the next? I also get a lot of messages of the form
" .... at magstem ... not found, scaling at ... instead...
will generate poor output..."
I actually do NOT get poor output, except in the case of eufm and eufb for
fractur and gothic fonts, where I get black squares in the previewer and blanks
on thye printed page.
Anyone know what to do..?
thanks,
--Jim Lipton
=====================================================================
Dept. of Mathematics, Wesleyan University, Middletown CT 06459-0128
(203) 347-9411 e-mail: jlipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu
=====================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Help for configuring musicTeX on NeXT
Message-ID: <CKsrHK.Dqu@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 09:53:43 GMT
I had post this question a month ago. Though 2 people had replied, it
doesn't help. I still cannot get it work on my NeXT.
Whenever the TeXview open the generated dvi, it issues the following messages:
couldn't find tfm file; substituting cmr10
!could not open tfm file
Last font was music20.tfm
then TeXview quit.
I had tried to add fonts search paths to .cshrc file:
setenv TEXINPUTS
.:~/tex/inputs:/NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs:~/tex/examples
setenv TEXFONTS
.:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm:/fuji1g/pd/tex/musictex/musictex/musictex:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/MuTeX/TFM
setenv MFINPUTS
.:/usr/lib/mf/inputs:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/MuTeX/MF:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/musictex/mf
and set the fonts search path in TeXWorks. I am using InstantTeX.
I tried to throw away the whole musictex and then ftp it again, unzip,
untar, ftp those .tex .sty .aux .toc .log .for .bat .ps .mf files to a
MS-DOS machine with binary transfer and then ftp back with ASC
transfer. But still failed.
It seems the problem occur at /usr/bin/MakeTeXPK.
Is there any restriction on putting the .mf files into which directory ?
Can you ftp your workable set to me (the whole directory) with
environmental setting ?
Thanks in advance.
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
(NeXTmail welcome)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MUX Serial Driver
Date: 5 Feb 1994 09:38:02 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2ivlta$13o@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1994Feb3.024517.1457@ToTSySSoft.com>
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rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) writes:
>Does any one know who to get ahold of for a copy of the serial
>driver that was posted here the other day?
ftp.uni-stuttgart.de
/pub/systems/next/i486/Drivers/3.2/Mux...
Regards,
Markus.
--
Marsu: "There really exist some people who live happily and satis-
fied without computers." -- Frankie: "Oh no, they just emulate it!"
-----
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX
Date: 6 Feb 1994 17:29:21 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j39dh$31s@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2j27fg$r32@netnews.upenn.edu>
Jim Lipton writes
[]I have NS/Intel 3.2 with a recent version of Next-Tex, and after hours of
[]loading fonts from the ams and theory.doc.ic.uk have amslatex running.
[]However I am having trouble with eufb_ and eufm_ fonts. I have loaded the
[]corresponding .mf files in the place where metafont expects them, but get
[]metafont errors: the system complains that it needs tfm fonts for them.
Isn't
[]MakeTeXPK and metafont supposed to generate them automatically? (I have
the
[]switches on for font generation during tex->dvi). How do I get tfm files
that
[]work for the next? I also get a lot of messages of the form
[]
[]" .... at magstem ... not found, scaling at ... instead...
[] will generate poor output..."
[]
[]I actually do NOT get poor output, except in the case of eufm and eufb
for
[]fractur and gothic fonts, where I get black squares in the previewer and
blanks
[]on thye printed page.
[]
Using the Metafont source files you can make the proper TeX Font Metric
(.tfm) files, but the "automatic font generation" feature of NeXT-TeX does
not do this for you. The automatic font generation uses the .mf and the
tfm files to make bitmapped images of the fonts (.pk files) appropriate to
the given document and resolution device (screen or printer). Metafont has
to be run "by hand" to make .tfm files as there are all sorts of possible
variations.
Your solution: read through the Metafont book and make the .tfm files;
it's relatively simple as I remember, though it's been long enough since I
needed Metafont (I know have only Postscript TeX fonts, YIPPEE! :) that I
cannot remember the proper incantations off the top of my head. Better
yet, drop me a note and I will nextmail you the relevant .tfm files.
The other comments about "magstem" etc. can basically be ignored. If I
remember correctly they arise because the Metafont code is somewhat
outdated compared to the new TeX formats, but the results shoudl be fine
anyway.
Hope this is helpful --- Tom
--
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Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Message-ID: <CKt74y.12r@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
References: <1994Feb3.164658.1592@afs.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 15:31:46 GMT
In article <1994Feb3.164658.1592@afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com
(Gregory H. Anderson) writes:
> In article <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp> sr@rdbois.fdn.org
> (serge_ruby) writes:
> > In article <1994Jan21.140010.14492@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
> > schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> > >
> > > What bothers me already a long time is that in Edit (up to my
> > > knowledge) it is no possible to have a DELETE key. I expected
> > > something like <shift><backspace> to do the trick, but nop.
> > > Maybe I'm overlooking something and if so, who can tell me
> > > how to do it.
> > >
> > I don't think there is anything like this in Edit, but I fully
agree
> > with you: there is a need for a delete key along withe the
backspace key
> > and not only in Edit but everywhere in NextStep. Perhaps if we are
> > enough to say it the kings of Unix and NeXT will listen to us. By
the
> > way even Windows has a delete key working properly ie not in the
same
> > direction as backspace.
>
> Why stop with the Delete key? What about Insert and Home and End and
> PageUp and PageDown and all the function keys on Intel keyboards?
> Why can't you jump by the word or paragraph? Why doesn't the Intel
key
> labeled "PrintScrn" bring up the Print Panel? Why isn't there a
meta-key
> for the missing cursor control keys on black keyboards? Why is the
mouse
> required to select text, even as small as one character? Why can't
you
> select text from the keyboard by using the Shift key, like every
geeky
> DOS and Windows program in existence?
>
> If only someone would introduce a word processor that thought about
these
> issues. If only... 8^)
TO ALL THESE POINTS I WANT TO FOLLOW WITH GREAT LETTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MANFRED
> --
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> greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Automating Receiving Faxes
Message-ID: <1994Feb6.175012.7998@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <CKrDEB.FzG@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 17:50:12 GMT
In article <CKrDEB.FzG@nextsrv1.andi.org> boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
writes:
> Is there software that will automatically mail incoming faxes to the
> proper recipient, without an administrator intervening?
You could write one.
You would need:
- a command line OCR program (only one on the market is ExpressOCR, but
eXTRAREAD *may* do this in future).
- a directory scanning script (easy to write) that calls the OCR program,
then decodes the output to find a recognisable user name match.
Based on what I have seen, I would estimate that 10% - 50% of all incoming
faxes would find a match. The rest would have to remain in the queue for
the adminsitrator to deal with.
Paul
--
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P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
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From: fo6r@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric's NeXT Fortune)
Subject: Sonogram software - printing
Message-ID: <1994Feb6.191321.2053@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 19:13:21 GMT
I need to print some sonographs.
I use Sonograph 0.90 for viewing sounds, but it
does not allow you to print. Screen grabs are
of marginal use, and I would prefer to get the most
out of my new NeXT Laserprinter (thanks Sam!).
EdsndP also does not support printing, and Edsnd2 from
princeton.edu does not have FFT's implemented yet.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
- eric fortune
fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu
NeXTMail OK
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu (Gareth S. Bestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: where for art thou Jana?
Date: 6 Feb 1994 21:30:41 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j3ni1$d7r@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Does anybody know what the end result is with Jana? I've heard a few
got a diappointing #4 CD-ROM late last year and a few got one earlier
this year. The last I received was the May-Jun "Expo Edition" (#3).
What's their email address/phone number now?
I suspect a *LOT* of people have been burned. Anyone interested in banding
together and doing something about - i.e. legal action, etc. I for one
am not particularly happy with them.
- Gareth
reply to bestor@cs.wisc.edu
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Improv, TeXTView and print: wondering what broke in 3.2 - black
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <CKnxqq.14p@athena.ulaval.ca>
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Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 10:00:29 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb5.100029.20544@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had the same experience, TeXview.app crashed with an "segmentation fault"
instantly - the TeX document compiled and displayed fine under 3.1...
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Fax/Modem driver
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2ir4vb$c1i@hp4at.eunet.co.at>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 09:57:28 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb5.095728.20484@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
alfred@ca-risc.co.at wrote:
> We are desperately looking for a good Fax, Modem, Voice driver for the black
> and white hardware. It should be able to send and receive faxes, distinguish
> between fax/data calls and voice, cooperate with slip, voice calls etc., the
> whole story. We are also interested in getting pieces in source and combine
> ourselves.
I use NXFax (Black & White Software), but it does NOT support voice (yet?).
Everything else works as want. I am very happy with it.
Also there is mix (I*link), which can handle voice, but it uses the DSP
and only supports data calls up to 2400 bps, which is far too slow for me.
Then there is "am" by Jolly. Its free, supports voice and data and fax, but
I do not know how stable it is. People told me that it is quite a bit of
work to get things started with it. I dunno.
Then there are solutions I don't know anything about, like DFax.
Good luck, Gerhard.
--
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From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson)
Subject: MiscQ's
Message-ID: <1994Feb6.225053.5422@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 94 22:50:53 GMT
Couple of questions....
- Is there a PD/freeware/shareware "word processor" that is a bit
more functional as a WP than NS's "edit" anywhere? Also, what is
the cheapest commercial WP that is any good around? (and price?)
- Is there a .MOD player for NS Intel (that works with some supported
audio boards)??
bp
From: william@moomin.berkeley.edu (William E. Grosso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Database ?
Date: 7 Feb 1994 00:16:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2j418q$94n@agate.berkeley.edu>
Are there any simple {free, share}ware database apps
out there ? I need to organise my papers.
Bill Grosso
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Database ?
Date: 7 Feb 1994 00:23:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2j41lv$srv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2j418q$94n@agate.berkeley.edu>
William E. Grosso writes
> Are there any simple {free, share}ware database apps
> out there ? I need to organise my papers.
DataPhile isn't free, but its pretty cool. I think there's a demo on
the archives -- try it, you might find its worth the price.
Standard disclaimers.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
Subject: Trouble with fonts...Please help!
Message-ID: <CKtz1n.Hz0@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 01:34:35 GMT
Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to help me out with this...
Now, on to the problem...
I have an DEC system running NS/I and an Apple LaserWriter Pro 630 connected
via the parallel port...I installed some fonts I had on my black system before
I bought an intel-based computer and they seem to work fine (at least they
show up on the screen without any difficulty)...When I try to print, however,
my printer produces the following message in the top left hand corner of the
page:
ERROR: undefined
OFFENDING COMMAND:
STACK:
Any ideas as to what's going on? Do fonts need to be recompiled like
software? I have no problem printing with the NeXT-supplied fonts, but as
soon as I use some of my old black fonts, I get the above message...
Thanks for your help! You can reply to this account (rawyatt@csn.org)
with TEXT mail ONLY! To send me NeXTmail (which I prefer as it comes right
to my machine), send mail to:
rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail and MIME)
Best Regards,
Rob Wyatt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Re: Help for configuring musicTeX on NeXT, still fail
Message-ID: <CKtyyz.L3t@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
References: <CKsrHK.Dqu@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 01:32:57 GMT
skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) writes:
>I had post this question a month ago. Though 2 people had replied, it
Yes, one of them is Moritz Willers <willers@butp.unibe.ch>. And he had
promptly replied me hours after my current post.
He promised to help me by sending the whole directory via NeXTMail in last
month reply and current reply. But I failed to acknowledge him. Emails
were all bounced back. Finger willers@butp.unibe.ch results in unknown
host. I tried netfind on SunOS and got 18 items, but none of them react to
further search.
Any hints ? Or, Willers, are you hearing ? I can recieved NeXTMail as was
indicated in my current enquiry. I had received your NeXTMail to me
properly.
>setenv TEXINPUTS
>.:~/tex/inputs:/NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs:~/tex/examples
>setenv TEXFONTS
>.:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm:/fuji1g/pd/tex/musict
ex/musictex/musictex:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/MuTeX/TFM
>setenv MFINPUTS
>.:/usr/lib/mf/inputs:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/MuTeX/MF:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/musicte
x/mf
As suggested by Willers current mail, I moved the musictex to my home
directory and add paths:
setenv TEXINPUTS
.:$HOME/tex/musictex:~/tex/inputs:/NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs:~/tex/examples
setenv TEXFONTS
.:$HOME/tex/musictex/tfm:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm:/fuji1g/pd/tex/musictex/musictex/musictex:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/MuTeX/TFM
setenv MFINPUTS
.:$HOME/tex/musictex/mf:/usr/lib/mf/inputs:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/MuTeX/MF:/fuji1g/pd/tex/music/musictex/mf
Yet still failed
Thank you for any help.
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
(NeXTmail welcome)
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 6 Feb 1994 23:40:06 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2j4gn6$909@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: begonia@abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Font editor app
Date: 7 Feb 1994 06:18:11 GMT
Organization: Abstract Software
Message-ID: <2j4mf3$hj4@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <2ij5v6$q5g@wave.aoml.erl.gov> <2352@heurikon.heurikon.com> <jeffo.760517389@uiuc.edu>
In article <jeffo.760517389@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>Gregory Taylor writes:
>
>>so this might mean that all those lovely things like
>>Presto [or do you say "Sequence?"] will never make it to 1.0
>
>Same with another app I think they were working on, a font editor the
>name of which escapes me right now.
>
>Was there anyone (or any companies) working on a font editing app?
>--
>J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
My company, Abstract Software is currently working on a font
designer/editor application. We plan on having a working beta in time
for the NeXTWORLD Expo in June.
If you like I can end you more detailed information about our
application when it becomes available.
Thanks,
sonja
--
Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush ``Another one of the flock following the herd.''
Abstract Software P.O. Box 25045 Seattle, WA 98125 206/361-5080
e-mail: begonia@abstractsoft.com NeXTmail accepted with glee!
From: begonia@abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2j4mf3$hj4@news.u.washington.edu>
Control: cancel <2j4mf3$hj4@news.u.washington.edu>
Date: 7 Feb 1994 06:40:53 GMT
Organization: Abstract Software
Message-ID: <2j4npl$hv5@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <2352@heurikon.heurikon.com> <jeffo.760517389@uiuc.edu> <2j4mf3$hj4@news.u.washington.edu>
Originator: begonia@abstractsoft.com
<2j4mf3$hj4@news.u.washington.edu> was cancelled from within rn.
--
Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush ``Another one of the flock following the herd.''
Abstract Software P.O. Box 25045 Seattle, WA 98125 206/361-5080
e-mail: begonia@abstractsoft.com NeXTmail accepted with glee!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: version management and control software ?
Message-ID: <CKuIK8.BwK@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
References: <1994Feb4.075335.18525@proximus.north.de> <CKrpMt.2un@pdh.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 08:36:06 GMT
In article <CKrpMt.2un@pdh.com>, Jon F. Rosen <jfr@squaw.pdh.com> wrote:
>
>Basically, CVS stores its own information as a subdirectory in every
>directory of your source tree. When you modify a .nib in IB, it
>rewrites the entire .nib directory which wipes out the CVS
>subdirectory in the .nib as well.
>
Edit does the same thing with .rtfd's, so NeXTSTEP Help is a
problem.
>The simple solution (I am not aware of a CVS palette that can be
>placed into IB) is to run "make ckout" provided with CVS that stores
>a .tar file of all the CVS subdirectories in the highest source
>directory. Then, after modifying ANY .nib files, before doing any
>further CVS work, run "make ckin" which restores the CVS
>subdirectories to their pristine state. This is a bit cumbersome but
>it works perfectly.
This is a file that can be included in your Makefile.postamble
and lets you do all of the CVS stuff from ProjectBuilder if you want
to by specifying targets to make. It was written by Art Isbell
(thanks Art) and works especially well if you write some scripts or
ailases that make sure you always ckin before you commit and ckout
afterward. The IB palette mentioned above is more transparent, but it
doesn't solve the Edit problem, so I opted for Art's makefile. You
can find it at the archives.
Rob
--
| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Re: Help for configuring musicTeX on NeXT, OK now
Message-ID: <CKuI7y.1p1@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
References: <CKsrHK.Dqu@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 08:28:46 GMT
I solved the problem by including
/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/pk
in setenv TEXFONTS in .cshrc
I found that it only works if I turn on the 'Generate fonts' in
"Preferences".
SK
P.S. Thanks to Geert J v Oldenborgh too.
From: matthew@acehigh.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM (Matthew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC for Nextstep 3.1
Date: 7 Feb 1994 13:16:01 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j5euh$eel@bantu.provo.novell.com>
Can someone out there send me a compiled version of the IRC Client?
Out of the goodness of their heart, and all that jazz...
I have had some major difficulties compiling it.
Thanks..
Matthew Jones
Matthew@acehigh.npd.provo.novell.com
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Apple Powerbook and Next
Date: 7 Feb 1994 13:32:12 GMT
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
Message-ID: <2j5fss$iv8@hp4at.eunet.co.at>
Keywords: Connection, Powerbook, Next
How would I connect a Powerbook and a Next (black)? I mean really connect!
Since I do not believe that notebooks with descent resolutions (at least 1024 *
768) will be available anytime soon, a Powerbook seems a nice alternative to
the crowded screens of a 486 notebook -> do not give DOS a chance 8-).
Any experience, suggestions do_s and dont_s?
Regards
Alfred
================================
Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption
Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism
Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can
alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the
Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
From: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ruediger Popp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Q: Password-aging for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 7 Feb 1994 15:22:12 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Message-ID: <2j5mb4$b8b@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Did anybody write a password-aging software, i.e. a program which is
started as a login-hook, checks when a user changed his password and
forces him to enter a new one when the old one has expired?
I think it would be very helpful for system security.
---
Ruediger Popp
E-MAIL: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (NeXT-Mail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger)
Subject: Intuitiv3d users?
Message-ID: <CKtI5A.44B@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access Service (310 527-4279)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 19:29:34 GMT
I've been playing with Intuitiv3d off and on for a while, and continue to have
small difficulties with it. As the only documentation is online, and that not
really terrific, it is sometimes quite frustrating to try to get the desired
effects.
So, it occurs to me that it might be worthwhile getting a bit of a 'users'
discussion going. For example, I can no longer get the mirror to reflect.
I've rtfm'd but STILL can't make it happen. Any ideas?
Anyhow, I would be interested in contact from any and all who have used this
app, or other 3d apps of note...also, has anyone managed to get animation (3d)
of broadcast quality on an ND?
Thanks
Chip
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| 76660.422@compuserve.com just FTFP and try |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn)
Subject: High Resolution printing via NeXTMail
Message-ID: <CKv0Mo.B2J@pts.mot.com>
Keywords: next, printing, postscript, high resolution
Sender: news@pts.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:06:24 GMT
Does anyone know where I can get some Linotronic output (or equivilent)
ASAP via NeXTMail? I recall seeing an AD in NeXTWorld for a firm with
this service. I unfortunately cannot find my old NeXTWorlds. Does anyone
have a pointer to his or any other firm for me.
Or, If you know of a good shop in the South Florida area that I could just
drive to, that would be fine.
Thanks a lot,
Stu
------------------------------------------------------------
Stuart Hamlyn
Motorola Inc.
Applied Research MS 71
1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue
Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292
(407)-364-3997
(407)-364-3904 (FAX)
stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com [NeXTMail preferred]
From: matthew@acehigh.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM (Matthew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgrazer Preference Settings
Date: 7 Feb 1994 18:50:56 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
Can someone out there tell me where the preference settings are kept for
Newsgrazer???
Thanks
Matthew Jones
mvjones@novell.com
From: ranilla@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es (Ranilla Pastor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: problems with HSD SCAN-X Color
Message-ID: <1994Feb7.203747.1395@polar>
Date: 7 Feb 94 20:37:47 +0100
Organization: Universidad de Oviedo
About one and a half year ago I bought a HSD SCAN-X Color for my
68040 NeXT Cube. Currently I am transfering my work to a Intel
486 based running MICROSOFT WINDOWS 3.1 environment, because my
Next Cube lost the login window and now I can't use it. Therefore,
I would like to use the scan on the 486 Pc. Unfortunately I haven't the
drivers software for the 486 Pc and I can't use the scanner.
Does someone know about drivers software for the HSD
SCAN-X Color on the Intel 486?
or
Does soemone know about the technical details of the
scanner (instruction code, class, ADF, etc), or how
to get these informations?
Thanks in advance,
Ranilla
PD: Best way to reply to me is email
PD: Excuse my (non-existent :-) english and my poor dictionary.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose Ranilla Pastor Phone: +34 9 5182129
Area de Ciencias de la Computacion e I.A. Fax: +34 9 5338538
E.T.S.I.I de Gijon EMail: ranilla@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es
Campus de Viesques s/n
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bob@newton.uucp (bob)
Subject: Re: version management and control software ?
Message-ID: <1994Feb7.213429.28898@cs.yale.edu>
Summary: DRCS avoids RCS and CVS hassles
Keywords: revison control, version, version management
Sender: Robert L. Masterson
Organization: Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
References: <1994Feb4.075335.18525@proximus.north.de> <CKrpMt.2un@pdh.com> <CKuIK8.BwK@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 21:34:29 GMT
In regard to the recent thread regarding the inability of RCS to handle
most of the resources in NEXTSTEP development (nib files, bundles, binary
files, etc...) and the problems with using an enhanced CVS relating to the
loss of revision history if you forget to do a "make ckin" at the proper
time, I would like to mention that DRCS, the graphical, directory capable
revision control system, provides a nearly transparent way of doing
revision control on all types of resources used in NEXTSTEP development.
The user interface to DRCS is almost identical to the WorkSpace Manager's
FileViewer, so that anyone who has mastered drag and drop can use it for
full revision control, without worrying about executing any "make" or
"check in" commands from the shell, ever.
DRCS is one of the SS&S CASE Tools. CodeReviewer, an analysis tool for
software projects providing formal software measurement as well as visual
analysis/merge of different code versions, is also in this product line,
and it integrates well with DRCS (and RCS). SS&S recently showed these
SS&S CASE tools at the NEXTSTEP East Coast Developer's Conference with many
positive responses from show attendees who were concerned with revision
control and quality software development.
DRCS is backwards compatible with RCS, and RCS (or CVS) directories can be
converted to full DRCS revision control databases simply and quickly. DRCS
supports a command line interface, as well, for those who wish to write
scripts that use it.
Both DRCS and CodeReviewer are sold under a network floating license, for
maximum convenience to the developer. Both have an aggressive multi-user
discount schedule.
DRCS is $195 for a single developer floating license, while CodeReviewer is
$495 for a single developer floating license. Both tools are shipping now.
Demonstration version of these tools are in the works, and such versions
with time and functionality limits should be available on FTP archives in
the next two weeks.
If you would like further information about DRCS or CodeReviewer, contact
Software Services and Solutions, Inc., at the following address:
sss@sss.com or CASE_Tools@sss.com
Robert L. Masterson, Vice President
Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
94 Murray Street
Meriden, CT 06450
(203) 630-2000
fax: (203) 630-2020
rlm@sss.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley)
Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM drives, help!!!
Message-ID: <1994Feb4.153700.8646@bozell.com>
Sender: news@bozell.com
Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc.
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 15:37:00 GMT
In article <CKK0z5.F4D@pts.mot.com> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn)
writes:
> I'm so close I can taste NeXTStep running on my Versa. I got the 12 megs,
> bought the damn docking station, bought a 340MB internal drive, bought
> this Adaptec Card for the damn docking station. Now I try to boot NeXTStep
> and it doesn't recognize my CD-ROM drive. Doesn't recognize the NEC
> triple-spin, or the old Sony I have, or my (God Forbid.) Sun CD-ROM drive.
Your problem is related to the SCSI card being in the docking station. You
have to pull the IDE drive from the notebook, and build it in a desktop PC that
has both IDE and SCSI interfaces. This sucks, but it works.
Ask anyone at NeXT how they loaded NEXTSTEP onto the NEC Ultralite Versa.
--
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From: mhenry@zeus.UWaterloo.ca (Mark Henry)
Subject: Pinnacle is alive and well (was: Re: Pinnacle Research Chapter 11??)
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Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
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References: <2352@heurikon.heurikon.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 22:36:34 GMT
In article <2352@heurikon.heurikon.com> gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory
Taylor) writes:
> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn) writes:
> > Anyone know what happened to Pinnacle, authors of Pagechain, Transfer,
> > etc...?
>
> Well, I notice that Lighthouse has announced the acquisition of some
> of their work, so this might mean that all those lovely things like
> Presto [or do you say "Sequence?"] will never make it to 1.0, and be
> left instead to bob upon the waves as offerings to the shark god.
>
> A moment of potential virtual silence....
>
[deletia]
Ping...
Pinnacle research, while it _has_ undergone some changes of late, is
alive and well. To make the illogical-leap-of-faith from "I can't
purchase this." to "Is the company 'Chapter 11'?" is (to be kind), silly.
To fend off the ill-informed shark god, let me say:
1) Sequence v0.97b is available at cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/binaries/sound.
2) Included in this release is all of the functionality that will be in 1.0.
Between now and 1.0 bugs will be fixed. Anticipated time frame for 1.0 is 2nd
or 3rd quarter of this year. As has been our policy since the first public
release, all registered purchasers of this and any future Beta versions of
this application will be entitled to an upgrade to version 1.0 when it becomes
available.
To those who have been inconvenienced by Pinnacle's restructuring, apologies.
Pinnacle still sells VirtSpace, VWall, and Sequence. In addition, new product
development and consulting is ongoing. E-mail to info@pri.com is the best way
to reach us, although the phone is okay too.
Cheers,
Mark Henry, Pinnacle Research Inc.
Mark_Henry@pri.com
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Pinnacle Research Inc. | Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge?
Mark_Henry@pri.com | Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?"
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From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Subject: V1.3 of Mux Serial Driver for Intel posted to comp.sys.next.hardware
Message-ID: <CKvKrM.3yt@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Organization: VE6MGS Gateway
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 22:21:21 GMT
For those that have been waiting, I have posted V1.3 of the Mux Serial Driver
to comp.sys.next.hardware.
Ciao -- Mark
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: High Resolution printing via NeXTMail
Message-ID: <2j6u5t$e32@inxs.concert.net>
Date: 8 Feb 94 02:42:05 GMT
References: <CKv0Mo.B2J@pts.mot.com>
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
In article <CKv0Mo.B2J@pts.mot.com> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn)
writes:
> Does anyone know where I can get some Linotronic output (or equivilent)
> ASAP via NeXTMail? I recall seeing an AD in NeXTWorld for a firm with
> this service. I unfortunately cannot find my old NeXTWorlds. Does anyone
> have a pointer to his or any other firm for me.
>
At the present time, LIGHT PRINTING COMPANY, INC. can take your files via
NeXTmail at up to 3600 lpi both film-negative and rc-paper positive, along with
35mm slide prints.
SEND TO LightPrinting@gun.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep Academic Developer Licensing
Message-ID: <2j70mg$ese@inxs.concert.net>
Date: 8 Feb 94 03:25:04 GMT
References: <1994Feb8.021301.8580@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
In article <1994Feb8.021301.8580@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu
(Daniel Shelton) writes:
> By the way, NeXT frequently runs specials on NS/Intel for those in the
commerical sectors. They have one now running until Feb. 28, $995 for a User
copy and a Developer copy of NeXTStep/Intel.
>
> Dan
Better hurry, according to what I have heard from NeXT, the Commercial User
version of NeXTSTEP is going up to $995.00 effective 1 April and the
Developer's Disk goes to almost $3,000.00.
Dave
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From: dario@voluptas (Dario Ringach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How good is Tailor?
Date: 7 Feb 1994 23:30:59 GMT
Organization: New York University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j6ivj$1f1@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Has anyone had any experience with Tailor? It is a postscript
utility that allows the edititing of EPS files and save the
result back into EPS format. Any comments about this piece of
software?
Thank you in advance...
--
Dario
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Date: 8 Feb 1994 05:26:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j77r0$gab@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Subject says it all.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How good is Tailor?
Date: 8 Feb 1994 06:31:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j7bjm$h1a@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2j6ivj$1f1@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Dario Ringach writes
> Has anyone had any experience with Tailor? It is a postscript
> utility that allows the edititing of EPS files and save the
> result back into EPS format. Any comments about this piece of
> software?
I've seen it demo'd and played with it a while, and it was VERY
impressive.
Ciao, Stefano
---
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: mane@simplework.octagon.de (Mane Wuehr)
Subject: folder-icons
Message-ID: <1994Feb7.182234.5378@simplework.octagon.de>
Organization: SimpleWork Software GmbH
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 18:22:34 GMT
I can give a folder an icon .dir.tiff and an .opendir.tiff.
OK. But if somebodey hasn't access-rights to this folder
he sees a dimmed folder.
So: can one give a folder a third ,.dimdir.tiff`?
It's totally unimportant, but why can we paint nice
folder-icons, that noone can see?
--
Manfred W"uhr - mane@simplework.octagon.de
From: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: folder-icons
Date: 8 Feb 94 17:15:07
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Feb8171507@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
References: <1994Feb7.182234.5378@simplework.octagon.de>
In-reply-to: mane@simplework.octagon.de's message of Mon, 7 Feb 1994 18:22:34 GMT
In article <1994Feb7.182234.5378@simplework.octagon.de> mane@simplework.octagon.de (Mane Wuehr) writes:
I can give a folder an icon .dir.tiff and an .opendir.tiff.
OK. But if somebodey hasn't access-rights to this folder
he sees a dimmed folder.
So: can one give a folder a third ,.dimdir.tiff`?
It's totally unimportant, but why can we paint nice
folder-icons, that noone can see?
^ else
Interesting point, but isn't this a bit tricky? .(open)dir.tiff
is just a file IN the inaccessible directory.
If one wants to do this, logically speking, the .dimdir.tiff file
needs to be in the .. directory (one up the directory ladder,
i mean). But then, it needs to be named something like
../.directory-name.dimdir.tiff . More elegant solutions?
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
Not posting from the usual node, due to problems.
From: izumi@mindseye.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How good is Tailor?
Date: 8 Feb 1994 08:24:50 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
Distribution: world
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References: <2j6ivj$1f1@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> <2j7bjm$h1a@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2j7bjm$h1a@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@leland.stanford.edu writes:
>Dario Ringach writes
>> Has anyone had any experience with Tailor? It is a postscript
>> utility that allows the edititing of EPS files and save the
>> result back into EPS format. Any comments about this piece of
>> software?
>
>I've seen it demo'd and played with it a while, and it was VERY
>impressive.
I have used it in bursts a few times. I am very pleased with
what it does, and we can't almost live without it.
I have not used its PS/EPS editing functions that much, but
I am particularly impressed with its ability to be able to
figure out natural grouping in the original image constrction.
For example, I draw a density plot in a rectangle with 2-d array
of filled rectangles (not using the 'image' operator). It knows
to group all the little filled rects and present them as a single
density plot. Of course, you can ungroup it or "go into" the
group and edit individual elements.
It is also very instructive to examine PS generated by various
packages graphically. You can load a PS file, and start moving
objects around. You can understand a lot about how an app
generate the drawings.
Now, our main use of Tailor is for re-generating a PS file
that has a very simplified structure, so that it becomes
acceptable to a PS clone that is driving a color film recorder
on a Windoze machine. Our film recorder is driven by ZScript
which totally get demolished by PS emitted by TopDraw and Appsoft
Draw. Loading the PS into Tailor, and simply letting it
save the fresh PS file somehow makes the PS acceptable to
ZScript. We almost gave up on ZScript, but Tailor saved us
and a sale for Zenographics.
(I know about Talus ImageMate and eXTRASLIDE, but that was
not our option because we have users who want to use the
slide maker from Windoes apps. And there is no DPS for Windoze.
sigh..)
Tailor actually reads in PS and convert it into its own
internal representation, and then rewrites the PS completely.
In this process, it eliminates almost all of the nesting
of save/restore pairs and various transformations.
Composite documents consisting of imported EPS files
are unnested.
One caveat resulting from this process is that the size
of PS files can expand significantly, often by 3-4 times,
depending of the degree of use of short-hand defs, and procedure defs.
Tailor basically expands all defs into primitive individual
operators. PS files generated by GMT system (great for generating
high qualy plots and maps) expand quite a bit, as it uses
short-hand and procedural defs quite extensively.
On the other hand, NeXT's printPackage is included only once
even if imported EPS may have printPackage included. Therefore,
most of the AppKit generated PS files may actually shrink.
Current version of Tailor cannot handle most of the TeX/dvips
generated files because it has problems with Type-3 fonts that
TeX's font use.
Another thing that I found is that Tailor is just about the
only way to convert fairly complex FrameMaker drawing into
an EPS that can be imported into other NeXT apps.
FrameMaker's PS files and prologue is very nasty, and
I had loads of problems when I attempted conversion PS into
EPS by editing the bounding box with my BBFig.app.
Tailor can extract a clean EPS from the print file created
by FrameMaker. Unless I am missing something, I know of
no other reliable way to reuse a Frame drawing as EPS,
as it does not write or copy the EPS file/pasteboard.
At <$300 Edu, and <$500 list, it is a bargain.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $BBg_78^=;(B ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
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From: hill@iisnext2.unil.ch (Sean Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: FAT DOOM!
Date: 8 Feb 1994 11:27:01 GMT
Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland)
Message-ID: <2j7su5$6hf@cisun2000.unil.ch>
Keywords: TwoBitGray, EightBitGray, TwelveBitRGB
Am I the first to notice this?
FAT Doom is on cs.orst.edu!
It runs on all black hardware! On the Dimension I personally think that
the eight-bit gray is the right compromise for performance. TwoBitGray
works and doesn't look unreasonable. The Dimension is kind of slow unless
you use the lesser bit planes.
There's still no sound but it's free. They will eventually get the sound
going.
It's very cool.
I hope those people that said they would pay double the shareware fee for
B&W do. In order to play the whole game you need to buy the PC version
and copy the WAD file into the App wrapper.
Ciao-
Sean
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From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Aha, NewsGrazer Pro!
Message-ID: <1994Feb7.140409.10787@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <1994Feb4.190435.873@millennium.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:04:09 GMT
No wonder why Jayson has been posting lately. Look at the headers...
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
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From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: Unfair competition (was: DEC told me to expect NEXTSTEP
on Alpha AXP?)
Message-ID: <1994Feb4.190435.873@millennium.com>
Keywords: Well that's what I heard
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<2i0iff$rvt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
<1994Jan24.160203.2521@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <CKJFtD.LC6@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 19:04:35 GMT
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In article <1994Feb4.190435.873@millennium.com> Jayson Adams writes:
> In article <CKJFtD.LC6@microsoft.com>, Muzaffer Kal writes:
> > In article <jgraceCK5DCJ.IqB@netcom.com> jgrace@netcom.com wrote:
> > > ...
> > > Can anyone confirm (or deny :-) this MS approach to "handling"
> > > its employees?
> >
> > ... I am chained to my desk and I am not allowed
> > to read anything but MS docs....
>
> Someone told me one of those docs is called "Microsoft's Guide to
Phenomenally
> Bad Interface Design," which supposedly covers both user interfaces
and APIs. I
> doubt it's true, but they did point out the terrific consistency
Microsoft
> products have in this area, so maybe they weren't pulling my leg.
>
> __jayson
>
>
>
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From: paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk (Paul Meier)
Subject: PGP for Next
Message-ID: <CKwGxF.6sr@demon.co.uk>
Keywords: security encryption privacy
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 09:56:03 GMT
Can anyone let me know of a friendly front end for PGP running MAB under
NS3.2? Also where do I get hold of a compiled version of PGP for NS3.2?
My thanks in advance.
P.S.Meier
paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC for Nextstep 3.1
Date: 08 Feb 1994 10:20:12 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb8102012@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
References: <2j5euh$eel@bantu.provo.novell.com>
In-reply-to: matthew@acehigh.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM's message of 7 Feb 1994 13:16:01 GMT
Can someone out there send me a compiled version of the IRC Client?
Out of the goodness of their heart, and all that jazz...
Compiling IRC should be cake; I've seen to that since I've had my NeXT
(over two years) -- perhaps you can be more specific about the problems
you have been having? The latest client, 2.3.16 compiled without a
single problem.
I would put a irc client on one of the archives, but clients are compield
with default server addresses and various other options that really
should be site specific.
If anyone has trouble with IRC on a NeXT let me know.
scott
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From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sequence Lives (was: Pinnacle Research)
Message-ID: <14200@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 8 Feb 94 14:50:24 GMT
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Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
In article <2352@heurikon.heurikon.com> you write:
=>Well, I notice that Lighthouse has announced the acquisition of some
=>of their work, so this might mean that all those lovely things like
=>Presto [or do you say "Sequence?"] will never make it to 1.0, and be
=>left instead to bob upon the waves as offerings to the shark god.
Let not your hearts sink yet, the 0.97 version of Sequence, with SMPTE
and some other new features like unlimited controller-type editing, is
available on cs.orst.edu in pub/next/binaries/sound. With enough
support and interest shown, the application might live to see White!
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From: mickey@mothra.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Date: 8 Feb 1994 15:36:50 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
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References: <2j7su5$6hf@cisun2000.unil.ch>
Keywords: TwoBitGray, EightBitGray, TwelveBitRGB
The DOOM on cs.orst.edy doesn't run on BLACK hardware. I tried this already
and when I tried to run it, I got "Wrong Architechture" unless this has changed
or I was doing something horribly wrong, I was under the impression it only ran
on White hardware... (intel, duh).
=====================================================
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From: birk@artemis (Valerie Birk)
Subject: SUBMISSION: ESPRESSO! DEVELOPER
Message-ID: <1994Feb7.211845.14308@logibec.com>
Sender: news@logibec.com
Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 21:18:45 GMT
SUBMISSION: ESPRESSO! Developer
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ESPRESSO! Developer represents a new generation of development tools that
puts the delivery of mission critical custom applications within the reach
of any developer.
ESPRESSO! Developer is a third party Interface Builder object palette that
provides a suite of extensions to existing App Kit and DB Kit objects, as
well as providing new objects that increase the object-oriented
development capabilities of the environment. ESPRESSO!Developer supports
Objective C methods under Test Interface mode but also provides its own
language that is very easy to learn and can be mastered in days.
Companies looking at changing over to NEXTSTEP will value the speed at
which their development staff will be able to get up to speed on this new
environment, while more experienced NEXTSTEP programmers will appreciate
the features and flexibility added to the NeXT environment by ESPRESSO!
Developer.
FEATURES INCLUDE:
ESPRESSO! Developer is an object palette integrated into NeXT's Interface
Builder. Programmers learn about NEXTSTEP as they develop custom apps
which translates into tremendous savings in time and money
Support of DB Kit's database independence; apps developed with ESPRESSO!
Developer will recompile on any database with a DB Kit adaptor.
Developing applications with ESPRESSO! requires no knowledge of the App
Kit; a complex kit that can take up to six months to master
No royalties or licensing fees; applications developed with ESPRESSO!
Developer compile into independent applications that do not require
ESPRESSO! Developer to run.
TEMPLATES:
Templates for NEXTSTEP text fields: Data validation and view formatting
without code
money
date/time
character field
text field
floating point field
integer field
OBJECTS! OBJECTS! OBJECTS!:
ODModule lets you easily define the following:
qualifiers
sort order
sequencing
ODPickList is a convenient object that lets users choose from a large
number of items without cluttering the screen or slowing down the
application since it loads data only upon request and keeps it in memory
ODDragView provides the icon-dragging behavior that a number of graphical
applications include (move or copy data from one location to another) but
is not explicitly supplied in Interface Builder
ODMultiView saves screen space by allowing the display of various windows
over the same window area. Used extensively throughout NEXTSTEP (switch
view, e.g. Inspector Panel), ESPRESSO! offers an object that enables
designers to create overlaid views graphically
LANGUAGE
ESPRESSO! Developer provides a fourth generation language. It is easy to
learn, can be mastered in days. An API is available for further
customization. Objective C methods and ESL (ESPRESSO! Script Language)
functions can be used jointly in the development of apps
and much more...
A demo version of this software, ESPRESSO.Demo.pkg.compressed, is
available at the following sites:
cs.orst.edu /pub/next/submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu /pub/next.submissions
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From: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk (Geoff Hopson)
Subject: Calendar Manager wanted
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.165508.27266@zoo.bt.co.uk>
Sender: news@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 16:55:08 GMT
Apologies if this is a FAQ, but I am a recent convert to NeXTSTEP
from SunOS.
Basically, I want to do on a NEXT (white) what I can do in Calendar
Manager on Suns. Is there a public domain app out there? Does NeXT
come with one and I haven't found it yet? Any help gratefully accepted.
By the way, NeXTMail OK ! (I've been dying to say that)
Geoff
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From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne)
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.171102.8447@cs.yale.edu>
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:11:02 GMT
In article <2j8bii$sln@news.UU.NET> mickey@mothra.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky) writes:
> The DOOM on cs.orst.edy doesn't run on BLACK hardware. I tried this already
> and when I tried to run it, I got "Wrong Arch." unless this has changed
> or I was doing something wrong, I was under the impression it only ran
> on White hardware... (intel, duh).
>
> =====================================================
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> =====================================================
Yes, the NEW version does. Check out /pub/next/submissions for DoomV1.2.
It runs great on black. I've been playing all morning. Even in two bit
grayscale.
--
Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu
"With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain."
Friedrich von Schiller
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From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Message-ID: <CKx1ED.Bzu@cc.umontreal.ca>
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:18:13 GMT
Sean Hill (hill@iisnext2.unil.ch) wrote:
: Am I the first to notice this?
: FAT Doom is on cs.orst.edu!
GREAT SCOTT! THANKS I.D. SOFTWARE!
: It runs on all black hardware! On the Dimension I personally think that
: the eight-bit gray is the right compromise for performance. TwoBitGray
^^^^^^^^^^
: works and doesn't look unreasonable. The Dimension is kind of slow unless
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's the best news I've had this month! I can't wait to get home after
classes.
: you use the lesser bit planes.
: There's still no sound but it's free. They will eventually get the sound
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: going.
^^^^^^^
That's good news too, because the sound is a major part of the game play.
: It's very cool.
Congratulations to I.D. soft.
: I hope those people that said they would pay double the shareware fee for
: B&W do. In order to play the whole game you need to buy the PC version
: and copy the WAD file into the App wrapper.
I have a long letter to write to the folks at I.D., does anybody have
their internet adress? I.D. is an inspiring company.
: Ciao-
: Sean
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BEER
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu
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Subject: Listservs
Date: 8 Feb 1994 17:46:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <2j8j5h$iv3@netnews.upenn.edu>
Sorry to reask this, but can someone point me to a decent listserv
package.
Much obliged,
-dave
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From: tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com (Tom Meyer)
Subject: SerialDriver screw up -- HELP!
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.172745.14622@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:27:45 GMT
Ok, so call me an idiot...
I was installing the new 'Mux' serial port driver on my white hardware
last night when I did something rather stupid...
- I installed 2 instances of the Mux driver and set them IRQs (3 and 4)
and port addresses to those used by the default serial driver. I then
removed the SerialDriver from the list of used drivers [First Dumb Move]
- When I saved the configuration, it said something like "SerialMouse
Requires SerialPort driver to function". Like a complete moron, I ignored
the message thinking "well, the new serial driver will drive the mouse".
[Second Dumb Move]
- When I rebooted the machine, whaddaya think happens ? No mouse function.
- Tried booting with 'config=Default', but I get these now pretty obvious
messages:
Configuring Device Drivers
PCPointerProbe: mouseInit failure
Using default table for BusMouse
- IoProbeDriver: No Such Device BusMouse unit 0
Using Default table for SerialPorts
(it just hangs here)
Any suggestions ?? If I can log into my machine remotely, is there a way
to reconfigure the machine from the command line? Can I boot off the CD
ROM .If so, what is the command to do so from the 'boot:' prompt?? (yeah,
I know, rtfm)
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks,
tom meyer
tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com
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From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Date: 8 Feb 1994 18:06:18 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
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Todd Takken writes
[]Subject says it all.
[]
[]-- Todd Takken
[]takken@leland.stanford.edu
yes says it all
--
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: How good is Tailor?
In-Reply-To: dario@voluptas's message of 7 Feb 1994 23:30:59 GMT
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:06:48 GMT
In article <2j6ivj$1f1@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> dario@voluptas (Dario Ringach) writes:
> Has anyone had any experience with Tailor? It is a postscript
> utility that allows the edititing of EPS files and save the
> result back into EPS format. Any comments about this piece of
> software?
It's very good. I've thrown some hand-written stuff (yes, I actually
hack in PostScript sometimes :-) at it, and it handled it fine.
The most impressive thing I threw at it was the Obfuscated PostScript
Contest-winning maze generation program.
It just goes to show you what good programmers can do once they
stop worrying about the halting problem and get down to writing
code. :-)
--
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1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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From: kerry@totara.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Kerry Guise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How good is Tailor?
Date: 8 Feb 1994 21:39:54 GMT
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In article <2j7i8i$m27@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@mindseye.berkeley.edu
(Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
[ some positive commentary ommitted ... ]
> Current version of Tailor cannot handle most of the TeX/dvips
> generated files because it has problems with Type-3 fonts that
> TeX's font use.
There is a fix for this as the folks at Alembic pointed out in response to
my query :
> [the author of Tailor] has written this little data file that enables
> Tailor to find out what the text is and substitute the unknown font with
> the font specified in your preferences.
Kerry Guise
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: where for art thou Jana?
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 08:08:59 GMT
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Gareth S. Bestor (bestor@cs.wisc.edu) wrote:
> Does anybody know what the end result is with Jana? I've heard a few
> got a diappointing #4 CD-ROM late last year and a few got one earlier
> this year. The last I received was the May-Jun "Expo Edition" (#3).
>
> What's their email address/phone number now?
CD-ROM A MONTH
jay@jana.com
001-416-922 5597 (fax)
001-613-544 6020
20 Wade Ave, Suite 520
Toronto, Ontario
M6H 4H3, Canada
GOOD LUCK,
Gerhard.
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From: mickey@mothra.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Date: 8 Feb 1994 20:52:34 GMT
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I stand corrected. My thought that was the version in there was extremely new
and after I thought this, I got email confirming it. Thanks for all the info
and now I can't wait to get home to play :)
=====================================================
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Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
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From: mod1coop@bcars76f (Allan Silburt)
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Summary: It lives...
Sender: news@bcarh54a.bnr.ca (ZOONEWS News)
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 19:11:03 GMT
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Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Keywords: TwoBitGray, EightBitGray, TwelveBitRGB
There is indeed a MAB (fat) version of Doom on cs.orst.edu. Look in
the submissions directory. Just downloaded my copy...haven't got it
home to my NeXT (Black) yet, but a bit of hex-dumping shows that it
is truly a fat binary. For those of you who aren't sure about the
architecture of your executables, check the first four bytes:
Intel only: CE FA ED FE
Moto only: FE ED FA CE
Multi-arch: CA FE BA BE
BE BA FE CA (I think this also means MAB, but compiled
on an Intel machine... endianism, you know)
Just my $.02 worth (+PST+GST)
-Dennis
__(__) Moo? (__)__ | I don't speak for BNR and BNR don't speak for me
( oo / oo ) +-------------------------------------------------
/\_| / |_/\ | Dennis Pejcha
Moo! | dpejcha@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
"Cow-munication" | mod1coop@bnr.ca <=== (only 'til 29 April 94)
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Date: 8 Feb 1994 20:53:57 GMT
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>> Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
>
> yes says it all
OK. How? There doesn't seem to be a menu item which allows opening .eps
files, and .eps files don't show up when the normal open command is
selected.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: High Resolution printing via NeXTMail
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.170926.297@hot.com>
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:09:26 GMT
Light Printing is the name of the company you can't remember. Write
to LightPrinting@gun.com for more information.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <CKv0Mo.B2J@pts.mot.com> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart
Hamlyn) writes:
> Does anyone know where I can get some Linotronic output (or
equivilent)
> ASAP via NeXTMail? I recall seeing an AD in NeXTWorld for a firm
with
> this service. I unfortunately cannot find my old NeXTWorlds. Does
anyone
> have a pointer to his or any other firm for me.
>
> Or, If you know of a good shop in the South Florida area that I
could just
> drive to, that would be fine.
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Stu
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Stuart Hamlyn
> Motorola Inc.
> Applied Research MS 71
> 1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue
> Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292
> (407)-364-3997
> (407)-364-3904 (FAX)
> stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com [NeXTMail preferred]
>
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:17:42 GMT
In article <2j8kaq$ceo@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
writes:
>>Todd Takken writes
>>[]Subject says it all.
>>[]
>>[]-- Todd Takken
>>[]takken@leland.stanford.edu
>>
>>yes says it all
>>
drag-n-drop says the rest ;-)
--
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Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Date: 8 Feb 1994 21:41:44 GMT
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Todd Takken writes
>>> Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or
>>> Virtuoso?
>>
>> yes says it all
>
> OK. How? There doesn't seem to be a menu item which allows
> opening .eps files, and .eps files don't show up when the normal
> open command is selected.
Just select the eps file in the workspace, drag it over the
Diagram/Illustrator/whatever document window, and let go.
Ciao, Stefano
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From: bbernhar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (benjamin bernhard)
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:13:28 GMT
In article <2j8kaq$ceo@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov writes:
>Todd Takken writes
>[]Subject says it all.
>[]
>[]-- Todd Takken
>[]takken@leland.stanford.edu
>
>yes says it all
Yes, drag in an eps file and it will show up in
your document. You can even rotate, scale etc. This is super cool and
expected behavior for NEXTSTEP apps.
But, you cannot drag in an eps file created by xfig or some other
drawing program and expect to edit the imported drawing. This would be
SUPER cool. Maybe the authors of Tailor could provide an applet that
interprets ps and translates into some intermediate, standard,
editable form--- Isn't this what acrobat was all about (but for text).
What's happening with acrobat anyway, I haven't seen any news is quite
some time.
happy diagramming,
ben
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From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Re: Librarian problems
Message-ID: <1994Feb7.131123.2694@afs.com>
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 13:11:23 GMT
Gerhard Moeller writes
>Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com) wrote:
>>>Stefano Pagiola writes
>>>Is there an equivalent way to get Librarian to work with WP files?
>>
>>To my knowledge, not at the present time. But there will be,
>>soon...
>
>Sorry, Michael, but you are wrong. (I even double-checked.)
[snip]
Actually, we're both right. The services you mention do just what
you say they do (I did say "to my knowledge" at the time :-). But
I was referring to opening WP files in DL windows, not by launching
WP. While it's nice that DL will open a file in its native app if
it can't open the file itself, I find the behavior a trifle annoying
(if cmd-F worked within DL it would be less so). A side effect of
the work we're doing for WriteUp is that you'll be able to open WP
files (or any other format that we support) in any app that is coded
correctly and supports RTF.
Thanx,
Michael
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than Kierkegaard."
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From: ericw@its.com (Eric Wespestad)
Subject: XV (image viewer) for NEXTSTEP? Is there one?
Message-ID: <1994Feb7.214807.12420@its.com>
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 21:48:07 GMT
Does anyone know if there is such a thing as XV for NEXTSTEP. XV is a
shareware image viewer that is available for Suns, Indigos, and other Unix
boxes. I get the idea that XV requires X... True? I'm really interested
in XV for DPS (not X). If someone knows of such a tool, please could you
email me the location where it may be ftp'd from. I would also appreciate
any experience with such (assuming it exists).
Otherwise, is there a utility to convert .IMG files to TIFF? IMG is an
unusual NASA image format.
I'll post a summary of any useful information.
Many thanks,
Eric Wespestad.
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From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Message-ID: <1994Feb7.182102.1334@afs.com>
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 18:21:02 GMT
In article <jeffo.760417359@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Why can I (especially in word processor apps, but in text editors too)
> only select one range of continuous data, thus forcing me to re-apply
> the same characteristics to many items that don't happen to be
> neighbors?
This is a UI issue, not a technical issue. There is no easily understood
model of how to manage multiple "odd-shaped" text selections (including
the ability to modify a piece that's already in the set) without resorting
to awkward modifier key combinations like Cmd-Shift-LeftElbow. That's why
styles (see next paragraph) are useful.
> Why (even in text editors) can't I have styles or some form of
> auto-formatting where I can keep a library of styles on-hand as well
> as record the style(s) in use with the document so when I take the
> document to someplace else, I can also read/print/edit the document
> there as it is supposed to appear?
RTF supports stylesheets as part of the language definition, but not all
RTF readers understand them. (Unfortunately, Edit is among them.) We
worked out a solution for that problem in WriteUp. WriteUp puts both the
literal formatting information and the style code--in that order--at the
front of each paragraph. If a foreign application opens the file, it will
process the literal information, even if it doesn't understand styles.
When WriteUp opens the file, it reads the literal information first, but
eventually discards it in favor of the style tag.
--
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From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman)
Subject: Can I run X11 (origional) in NS/White?
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.232002.28042@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 23:20:02 GMT
Hey netters -
I'd like to get X11 running on my machine (intel). UNfortunately, X11R5
for NeXTStep is only compiled for black hardware, and the others
(cube-x, mouse-x and co-xist) cost some major $$s. I honestly don't mind if it
doesn't run as a NeXTStep app, so going through the BSD shell would be
fine (if possible).
could I:
compile all the proper stuff for X11, and get it to take over
(or run as a window in) the workspace? or
simply boot in single user mode, and go from there? Is single
user mode just BSD without the NS frills? And could it run in (*gasp*)
color, if i've only got a cirrus logic video card? I've got a friend
who runs FreeBSD with the same vid card, and gets color X going (on a
386, to add insult to injury).
any hope?
dan fineman
fineman@cs.washington.edu ASCII pleeze
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: XV (image viewer) for NEXTSTEP? Is there one?
Date: 8 Feb 1994 23:16:19 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2j96g3$otb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Feb7.214807.12420@its.com>
Eric Wespestad writes
> Does anyone know if there is such a thing as XV for NEXTSTEP.
> XV is a shareware image viewer that is available for Suns, Indigos,
> and other Unix boxes. I get the idea that XV requires X... True?
> I'm really interested in XV for DPS (not X). If someone knows
> of such a tool, please could you email me the location where it
> may be ftp'd from. I would also appreciate any experience with
> such (assuming it exists).
There's ImageViewer, which handles a whole lot of graphics formats,
and translates between some of them. And its free. There's also
PixelMagician, which handles a few more formats, does more
conversions, and has a more elegant UI, but its commercial. Not
unreasonably priced, but definitely more expensive than ImageViewer
:-). I remember reading of some standard set of Unix graphics
utilities compiling and running fine, but not being a Unix propeller
head I didn't pay very close attention. Perhaps someone else can
fill in some details?
> Otherwise, is there a utility to convert .IMG files to TIFF?
> IMG is an unusual NASA image format.
ImageViewer does not handle .IMG :-(. Not sure if PixelMagician
does.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.205726.3349@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <2j77r0$gab@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:57:26 GMT
In article <2j77r0$gab@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU writes:
>Subject says it all.
>
>-- Todd Takken
>takken@leland.stanford.edu
Absolutely! Try:
Drag and Drop from the Workspace into an open document window.
Menu/Document:Place... O in Virtuoso.
I'm not sure about the menus for Diagram! and Illustrator (hey, they
can support their own apps, by gum)
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From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke)
Subject: InterFaceBuilder, general how to??
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.234107.18788@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 23:41:07 GMT
Is there some good starting point documentation on using the
InterFaceBuilder? I would like to try my hand at making an interface for
the NeXT for something like TELNET, just something simple that has a list
of sites to open or like that. Anyone have any good starting point for
me? Thanks!
And Yes I know REMOTES does this. But I want to try building my own!
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From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson)
Subject: Qs
Message-ID: <1994Feb9.011309.5073@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 01:13:09 GMT
Ok, I'm REALLY near oodering this eCesys system (honest!) -- but a
few LAST questions....
- CAN someone recommend a pd/freeware/etc term program for NSi?
- If I FTP the file to an MSDOS disk, the NSi should be able to
read it so I can unpack it and go, right?
- CAN I use my Epson AP-3250 24-pin (true 360x360) printer w/ NSi?
- Why would anyone use Windows?
bp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer Preference Settings
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.204251.538@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:42:51 GMT
They are stored in the defaults database. To get a listing of
defaults for NewsGrazer, launch a Terminal and type the following
after the "%" prompt:
% dread -o NewsGrazer
You can set a preference by typing:
% dwrite NewsGrazer ...
where ... is the preference and the arguments to that preference.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
matthew@acehigh.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM (Matthew) writes:
> Can someone out there tell me where the preference settings are
kept for
> Newsgrazer???
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Matthew Jones
>
> mvjones@novell.com
From: si@sisnext.sf.ca.us (Lawrence S. Kroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LabelMaker software
Date: 8 Feb 1994 20:49:53 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402081752.AA05946@sisnext.uucp>
Does anyone know of software that can drive a
Seiko Instruments Smart Label Printer Plus
on the NeXT?
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John "Kzin" Rudd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Internal Modem/ Serial Card driver for NS/I Desperately wanted
Message-ID: <137367@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 9 Feb 94 03:37:59 GMT
Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Has anyone heard of, written, or bought or downloaded or ANYTHING,
a driver that will work for internal modems or serial cards?
I have an internal modem, and don't wnat to shell out the money for
an external modem.. I tried disabling my on-board serial port com2,
and setting my modem to be com2..but NS didn't like that.
Any help would be appreciated. I don't really need my second serial
port right now, so if you know how to set that up, that'd be ok..but
i'd really just rather have an internal modem driver.
I'd even pay a reasonable fee to buy one.. So don't rule out commercial
drivers.
John
--
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===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.==============
DOOM ON YOU!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: swlu@odie.cs.mun.ca (Siwei Lu)
Subject: Call for papers
Message-ID: <1994Feb7.181134.22439@cs.mun.ca>
Sender: usenet@cs.mun.ca (NNTP server account)
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 18:11:34 GMT
CALL FOR PAPER
International Journal of Applied Software Technology
Papers are invited for the International Journal on Applied
Software Technology which will publish its first issue Fall
94. International Journal on Applied Software Technology is
a new international, multidisciplinary, quarterly journal.
Its main objective is to provide a forum for sharing
experience and dissemination of the pioneering research work
on various areas in software technology with unique
applications. Special issues on specific themes will be
published in coming issues. Papers submitted will be
reviewed by a group of international academics as well as
software practitioners. Publication decisions are based on
the recommendation of a review board.
Papers are welcome from the following areas of software
technology but not limited to:
a) Software Engineering and CASE
b) Multimedia
c) Groupware technology
d) Open systems and Interoperability
e) Distributed and Parallel systems
f) Data and Knowledge Engineering
g) Human and Computer Interface
Papers under the following categories are being sought:
a) Research paper
b) Tutorial
c) Survey and experience paper
d) Book review
In accordance with usual practice, papers previously
published and are under consideration for publication
elsewhere cannot be accepted for the Journal, and authors
must agree not to publish accepted papers elsewhere..
Submission:
The paper should not normally exceed 6000 words, and should
conform to the following format:
a) Cover page giving title, author(s) and affiliation(s)
b) Abstract describing the context and scope of the paper
c) Main text
d) References
The paper should be typed on a A4 (8.27in. x 11.69in.) size
paper with 1 inch margin on each side of the page. It is
recommended to type with Times New Roman with font size 11
and double spaced.
Send 3 copies of your paper to:
Prof. Lu Si-Wei
Dept. of Computer Science
Memorial University of Newfoundland
St. John's, Newfoundland
Canada A1C 5S7
Important dates:
Complete manuscript for the first issue: April 15, 1994
(Any papers receive after the deadline will be considered for
the following issues.)
From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOOM Dummy
Date: 9 Feb 1994 04:13:57 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j9nu5$s60@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Ok. I give up. I'm running DOOM on my color NextStation just fine. I can
move, shoot, pick up stuff. I can't get through any doors. I'm stuck
immediately. Is that because it's a limited demo, or because I'm a dummy?
If it's the latter, give the dummy a break, and give him some hints.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tgm@netcom.com (Thomas G. McWilliams)
Subject: Re: where for art thou Jana?
Message-ID: <tgmCKxw0p.LnL@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2j3ni1$d7r@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 04:19:36 GMT
Gareth S. Bestor (bestor@cs.wisc.edu) wrote:
: Does anybody know what the end result is with Jana? I've heard a few
: got a diappointing #4 CD-ROM late last year and a few got one earlier
: this year. The last I received was the May-Jun "Expo Edition" (#3).
Welcome to the club. This guy did a number on the Linux people too.
This chump is bad news all around.
: What's their email address/phone number now?
Here is his latest e-mail address: 3JJN3@QUCDN.QueensU.ca
: I suspect a *LOT* of people have been burned. Anyone interested in banding
: together and doing something about - i.e. legal action, etc. I for one
: am not particularly happy with them.
Yes a lot of people have been burned. You should cross post any
further discussion to comp.os.linux.misc too. Hundereds were short
changed in the Linux ranks too.
Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.215707.22819@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <2j8kaq$ceo@news.iastate.edu> <2j8u55$n4k@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 21:57:07 GMT
In article <2j8u55$n4k@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU writes:
>>
>>>> Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
>>>
>>> yes says it all
>>
>>OK. How? There doesn't seem to be a menu item which allows opening .eps
>>files, and .eps files don't show up when the normal open command is
>>selected.
>>
Drag-and-drop. Diagram! probably should have a "place" or "import" menu
item, but it doesn't (at least not that I can see).
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Message-ID: <thompsonCKxz7v.2v4@netcom.com>
Keywords: TwoBitGray, EightBitGray, TwelveBitRGB
Organization: Saperstein, et al.
References: <2j7su5$6hf@cisun2000.unil.ch> <2j8bii$sln@news.uu.net> <1994Feb8.191103.11774@bcarh54a.bnr.ca>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 05:28:43 GMT
>a bit of hex-dumping shows that it
>is truly a fat binary. For those of you who aren't sure about the
>architecture of your executables, check the first four bytes:
>
>Intel only: CE FA ED FE
>Moto only: FE ED FA CE
>Multi-arch: CA FE BA BE
> BE BA FE CA (I think this also means MAB, but compiled
> on an Intel machine... endianism, you know)
Or you can do 'lipo -info /LocalApps/SomeApp.app/SomeApp'. Doom is way
cool. I think we might even have something PC users don't have (yet?):
NIGHTMARE mode!!!! ;->
go play!
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Message-ID: <1994Feb9.022507.1950@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <2j77r0$gab@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 02:25:07 GMT
>>Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or
Virtuoso?
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <2j77r0$gab@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU
(Todd Takken) writes:
> Subject says it all.
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM Dummy
Date: 9 Feb 1994 05:48:51 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2j9tg4$i49@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2j9nu5$s60@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2j9nu5$s60@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU
(Greg Colello) writes:
> Ok. I give up. I'm running DOOM on my color NextStation just fine. I can
> move, shoot, pick up stuff. I can't get through any doors. I'm stuck
> immediately. Is that because it's a limited demo, or because I'm a dummy?
> If it's the latter, give the dummy a break, and give him some hints.
Use the 'x' key to open doors. It's in the Info... info.
And while I'm here, I tried the dwrite to get DOOM to run in 2bit but it
didn't work. Any clues?
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==============================================================================
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If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X?
==============================================================================
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Date: 9 Feb 1994 06:55:55 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2ja1dr$7hs@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <2j7su5$6hf@cisun2000.unil.ch> <2j8bii$sln@news.uu.net> <1994Feb8.191103.11774@bcarh54a.bnr.ca> <thompsonCKxz7v.2v4@netcom.com>
Keywords: TwoBitGray, EightBitGray, TwelveBitRGB
In article <thompsonCKxz7v.2v4@netcom.com>,
Eric Thompson <thompson@netcom.com> wrote:
>>a bit of hex-dumping shows that it
>>is truly a fat binary. For those of you who aren't sure about the
>>architecture of your executables, check the first four bytes:
>>
>>Intel only: CE FA ED FE
>>Moto only: FE ED FA CE
>>Multi-arch: CA FE BA BE
>> BE BA FE CA (I think this also means MAB, but compiled
>> on an Intel machine... endianism, you know)
>
>Or you can do 'lipo -info /LocalApps/SomeApp.app/SomeApp'. Doom is way
>cool. I think we might even have something PC users don't have (yet?):
>NIGHTMARE mode!!!! ;->
>
>go play!
>Eric
OH GOD! I just play it in my Black NeXT Turbo.........It is too cool
except there is no sound.......
If I buy the DOS version, can I get the sound too??
Andy
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// || // @
//==||/\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: ESPRESSO! DEVELOPER
Message-ID: <1994Feb9.010509.7362@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <1994Feb7.211845.14308@logibec.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 01:05:09 GMT
In article <1994Feb7.211845.14308@logibec.com> birk@artemis (Valerie Birk)
writes:
>
> SUBMISSION: ESPRESSO! Developer
>
[ ED Announcement ]
May I personally say I like Espresso! Developer. How could I have ever
looked right over it? It does just what the bundled objects NeXT supplies
do, "lets you do your database development even faster!" Check out the
demo if you are doing any database development.
--
Sincerely,
Neil Greene
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can I run X11 (origional) in NS/White?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 07:12:25 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <2ja2cp$t91@hub.ucsb.edu>
References: <1994Feb8.232002.28042@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
In article <1994Feb8.232002.28042@beaver.cs.washington.edu> fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman) writes:
]
]
]I'd like to get X11 running on my machine (intel). UNfortunately, X11R5
]for NeXTStep is only compiled for black hardware, and the others
](cube-x, mouse-x and co-xist) cost some major $$s. I honestly don't mind if it
Whoah there -- "mouse-x" is public domain software, and costs nothing.
There is no generic "X11R5" -- that is just the release number of the MIT X
software. I think you actually mean the mouse-x software, since it *does*
only run on the black machines.
]doesn't run as a NeXTStep app, so going through the BSD shell would be
]fine (if possible).
]
]could I:
]
] compile all the proper stuff for X11, and get it to take over
](or run as a window in) the workspace? or
]
] simply boot in single user mode, and go from there? Is single
]user mode just BSD without the NS frills? And could it run in (*gasp*)
]color, if i've only got a cirrus logic video card? I've got a friend
]who runs FreeBSD with the same vid card, and gets color X going (on a
]386, to add insult to injury).
Nope, sorry, you gets what yah pays fer -- Only the commercial X servers will
run on the white machines. There is no publically available software for
compiling your own Intel X server.
--
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Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yogi@csa.cs.technion.ac.il (Yossi Gil)
Subject: Webster daemon on a NeXT 486?
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 09:10:42 GMT
Message-ID: <yogi.760785042@csa>
Sender: news@wang.com
Subject says it all. I have a NeXTStep 486 version 3.1, and w I would
like to use it as a Webster daemon. How should I go about doin that?
--
Joseph (Yossi) Gil yogi@TECHSEL.BITNET
The Faculty of Computer Science yogi@cs.technion.ac.il
Technion -- Israel Institute of Technology Tel: +972-4-29-4333
Technion City, Haifa 32000, Israel Fax: +972-4-29-4353
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison)
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM! How do you go anywhere???
Message-ID: <CKyAp4.5K0@nosloc.com>
Sender: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison)
Organization: Nosloc Software Technologies
References: <1994Feb8.191103.11774@bcarh54a.bnr.ca>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 09:36:39 GMT
The version of DOOM does indeed work on black hardware. I am running it
under my 040 color station. I can run around but can't get anywhere.
To all those who have played, what do I need to do to get moving?
Any help appreciated.
=derek
--
Derek Collison <---> derek@nosloc.com
Nosloc Software Technologies
NeXTSTEP Consulting and Software Design
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Re: Can I run X11 (origional) in NS/White?
Message-ID: <1994Feb9.111051.11502@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
References: <1994Feb8.232002.28042@beaver.cs.washington.edu> <2ja2cp$t91@hub.ucsb.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 11:10:51 GMT
Douglas Scott (doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) wrote:
: ] simply boot in single user mode, and go from there? Is single
: ]user mode just BSD without the NS frills? And could it run in (*gasp*)
: ]color, if i've only got a cirrus logic video card? I've got a friend
: ]who runs FreeBSD with the same vid card, and gets color X going (on a
: ]386, to add insult to injury).
: Nope, sorry, you gets what yah pays fer -- Only the commercial X servers will
: run on the white machines. There is no publically available software for
: compiling your own Intel X server.
Ok, you're right that there's no 'free' software available to run a X
server from within NEXTSTEP/Intel. But there IS XFree, running on Intel
machines on top of Linux, FreeBSD,... . I think it should in principle be
possible to port this 'publically available' server to NEXTSTEP/Intel. I
have no idea how much work it is, but it should be possible.
Has anyone yet played with it ?
Gregor
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From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Listservs
Date: 09 Feb 1994 11:17:41 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb9111741@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
References: <2j8j5h$iv3@netnews.upenn.edu>
In-reply-to: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu's message of 8 Feb 1994 17:46:25 GMT
In article <2j8j5h$iv3@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu writes:
Sorry to reask this, but can someone point me to a decent listserv
package.
I use the Majordomo package on my NeXTstation Colour; pretty much without
a problem (althought, it doesn't seem to send mail to addresses not
enclosed in <>, but this may be a problem with Perl rather than majordomo.
You can get Majordomo from ftp.greatcircle.com in pub/majordomo
Scott
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SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
"A wasted youth is better by far than a wise and productive old age"
"In another novel, I *am* you"
From: mickey@mothra.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FAT Doom, No sound on Black hardware?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 14:18:41 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jarc1$m2m@news.UU.NET>
Yes! I got DOOM to run on my NeXT 040 slab... just one problem. Absolutely NO
sound whatsoever. None, nada, zip. Is this normal? Memory thing maybe? Anyone
encounter similar difficulties?
Thanks to all that corrected me as far as what it would run on, BTW. The game's
a blast, (no pun) even without sound. But sound would be great...
=====================================================
Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
=====================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: scotto@spasm.cica.indiana.edu (Scott Ostrander)
Subject: Re: XV (image viewer) for NEXTSTEP? Is there one?
Message-ID: <CKyo0H.HMC@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications
References: <1994Feb7.214807.12420@its.com> <2j96g3$otb@nntp2.stanford.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 14:24:17 GMT
In article <2j96g3$otb@nntp2.stanford.edu>,
Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Eric Wespestad writes
>> Does anyone know if there is such a thing as XV for NEXTSTEP.
If my memory serves me, there is a version that will work under co-Xist or
X11 which is already compiled for black, somewhere on cs.orst.
Unfortunately, it doesn't understand 12-bit colour, so it won't display on
those machines.
[...]
>:-). I remember reading of some standard set of Unix graphics
>utilities compiling and running fine, but not being a Unix propeller
>head I didn't pay very close attention. Perhaps someone else can
>fill in some details?
There are a series of utilities, bundled together, from the San Diego
Supercomputer Center, (SDSC) which handles a wide range of graphic
manipulation and conversions, including, gif, hdf, iff, MacPaint, pbm,
ZSoft PC Paintbrush, PIXAR, pict, pict2, pix, postscript, Sun Rasterfile,
SGI rgb, Wavefront raster, Utah Run-Length-Encoded, tiff, Stardent AVS X,
X11 bit map and X11 Window Dump, to name a few. I can't remember where I
picked up this set, but it was again, precompiled for black in the bundle
I found. Try cs.orst, sonata.cc.purdue.edu or
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in their graphics sections.
>> Otherwise, is there a utility to convert .IMG files to TIFF?
>> IMG is an unusual NASA image format.
Darn it, I didn't see this file type on the list anywhere. Sorry.
===========================================================================
Scott Ostrander - DoD#947 '86 VT1100 "Athena" - scotto@cica.indiana.edu
"Ninety percent of everything is crud." - Theodore Sturgeon
===========================================================================
From: gopher2@bcarh530.bnr.ca (Avril Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: cmsg cancel <2jaroa$7mf@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
Control: cancel <2jaroa$7mf@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
Date: 9 Feb 1994 14:29:12 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Distribution: world
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From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PS previewer in NS 3.2?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 14:38:09 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
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Hi,
Strangely enough, I can not find the Postscript previewer in NS 3.2.
Can someone tell me what it's called and where it is? Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PS previewer in NS 3.2?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 16:43:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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References: <2jasgh$cp3@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2jasgh$cp3@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
> Strangely enough, I can not find the Postscript previewer in NS 3.2.
> Can someone tell me what it's called and where it is? Thanks.
There's /NextApps/Preview.app and /NextDeveloper/Demos/Yap and
/NextDeveloper/Apps/Yap.app.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: scotto@spasm.cica.indiana.edu (Scott Ostrander)
Subject: Re: XV (image viewer) for NEXTSTEP? Is there one?
Message-ID: <CKytFr.613@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications
References: <1994Feb7.214807.12420@its.com> <2j96g3$otb@nntp2.stanford.edu> <CKyo0H.HMC@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 16:21:26 GMT
In article <CKyo0H.HMC@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
Scott Ostrander <scotto@cica.indiana.edu> wrote:
>If my memory serves me, there is a version that will work under co-Xist or
>X11 which is already compiled for black, somewhere on cs.orst.
^^^^^^^
Ooops, parser dropped. That should be cs.orst.edu...
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From: traupman-jonathan@cs.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can I run X11 (origional) in NS/White?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 12:04:30 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Message-ID: <2jb52uINNos@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU>
References: <1994Feb8.232002.28042@beaver.cs.washington.edu> <2ja2cp$t91@hub.ucsb.edu> <1994Feb9.111051.11502@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <1994Feb9.111051.11502@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
>Douglas Scott (doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) wrote:
>: ] simply boot in single user mode, and go from there? Is single
>: ]user mode just BSD without the NS frills? And could it run in (*gasp*)
>: ]color, if i've only got a cirrus logic video card? I've got a friend
>: ]who runs FreeBSD with the same vid card, and gets color X going (on a
>: ]386, to add insult to injury).
>
>: Nope, sorry, you gets what yah pays fer -- Only the commercial X servers will
>: run on the white machines. There is no publically available software for
>: compiling your own Intel X server.
>
>Ok, you're right that there's no 'free' software available to run a X
>server from within NEXTSTEP/Intel. But there IS XFree, running on Intel
>machines on top of Linux, FreeBSD,... . I think it should in principle be
>possible to port this 'publically available' server to NEXTSTEP/Intel. I
>have no idea how much work it is, but it should be possible.
>
>Has anyone yet played with it ?
I put on on this weekend in a spare partition. It's very nice (and a heck
of a lot faster than NS video -- what is NeXT's phobia of accelerators?).
Unfortunately it is a pain to configure -- you have work out timing tables
for your monitor for each resolution you work at.
Also it doesn't look like it would be easy to port to NS. The device
drivers seem closely tied with the server -- you need a different server
for each graphics card type. Unless someone writes a server that will use
DPS instead of a direct hardware driver (an apparently non-trivial
undertaking), I don't think we'll see XFree on NS.
However, Linux and XFree only take about 100MB total. If you only need X
occasionally and don't need X/NS interoperability, try going with that on
a second partition.
Later,
Jon
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From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FAT Doom, No sound on Black hardware?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 17:33:31 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
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References: <2jarc1$m2m@news.UU.NET>
In article <2jarc1$m2m@news.UU.NET>, Mickey Lasky <mickey@mothra.UU.NET> wrote:
>
> Yes! I got DOOM to run on my NeXT 040 slab... just one problem. Absolutely NO
>sound whatsoever. None, nada, zip. Is this normal? Memory thing maybe? Anyone
>encounter similar difficulties?
>
> Thanks to all that corrected me as far as what it would run on, BTW. The game's
>a blast, (no pun) even without sound. But sound would be great...
>
>=====================================================
>Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
>Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
>UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
>Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
>=====================================================
Doom for NeXT will not have sound until much later......
I have go through two buildings and I really want to hear my shotgun!!!
Let's do something and tell ID software.....
Andy
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From: alex@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Alex Raftis)
Subject: Re: XV (image viewer) for NEXTSTEP? Is there one?
Message-ID: <1994Feb09.173322.15982@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 94 17:33:22 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, SLO
References: <1994Feb7.214807.12420@its.com>
I'm not quite ready to make this fully official yet, but you can also get
the latest version of GraphicsWorkshop from polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu in
/pub/next. I'm currently working on a couple of known bugs, but the
version available for ftp is pretty stable (more so than previous
releases). This version represents a major upgrade from the previous
release.
GraphicsWorkshop supports reading/viewing/writing of gif, jpg, tiff, iff
(read only), pcx, pbm, ppm, pgm, and xbm images. There's also limited
support for BMP, but very limited. This will be fuller as of final
release. GraphicsWorkshop now supports undo, gamma corrections, color
separations, and CMYK color models, also.
By the time of my final release, it will also support cropping and simple
compositing. These and its other features represent my current plans for
GraphicsWorkshop, as well as the portion that I plan to always offer for
free. Most other future enhancements will likely be sold as image
processing modules that can be dropped into the UI.
If you're interested, I'm at the point where I'd appreciate bug reports
from people, so that I can work on the final steps. Also, I should have a
FAT version available for ftp in the near future, once I finally get a
chance to test it.
Alex
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From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pinnacle Research?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 17:26:28 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jb6c4$op2@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I'm looking for the tele # of Pinnalce REsearch (designers of Virtspace).
The phone number listed in third party products guide has been disconnected,
and our network nameserver cannot find an address for pri.com.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOOM Dummy Makes Suggestion
Date: 9 Feb 1994 17:51:02 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jb7q6$3sr@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2j9tg4$i49@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In comp.sys.next.software article <2j9tg4$i49@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> you
wrote:
> In article <2j9nu5$s60@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU
> (Greg Colello) writes:
>
> > Ok. I give up. I'm running DOOM on my color NextStation just fine. I
can
> > move, shoot, pick up stuff. I can't get through any doors. I'm stuck
> > immediately. Is that because it's a limited demo, or because I'm a
dummy?
> > If it's the latter, give the dummy a break, and give him some hints.
>
> Use the 'x' key to open doors. It's in the Info... info.
> Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail
capable.
> If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading
X?
>
==========================================================================
====
Ok. I AM a DOOM Dummy.
I DID read the info except at the time I read about the key bindings I
didn't understand doors since they are explained way down in the info. It
would be quicker to just have a black hardware version of the info so you
don't have to read around all the PC stuff and make substitutions.
It is a very nice concept. Sort of like 3-D Duke Nukem. My son is gonna
love this game (But of course I won't. I'm the adult. NOT!).
Greg
From: cs128@teacher.scheme.cs.ubc.ca (ta account cs128)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using mouse for DOOM movement
Date: 9 Feb 1994 18:18:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <2jb9d7$bsu@cs.ubc.ca>
The DOS version has totally programmed me to use the mouse for movement,
and can't bear to use the keys!
Is there any way to get DOOM to recognize the mouse for movement?
Chris Roehrig
University of British Columbia
From: talon@MCS.COM (Dave Skwarczek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cyberfest.594
Date: 9 Feb 1994 12:42:37 -0600
Organization: Another MCSNet Subscriber, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Message-ID: <2jbaqt$cik@Mercury.mcs.com>
To those who are reading this for the millionth time, sorry...
I'm proceeding fairly quickly but surely in planning Cyberfest.594,
an evening of interaction with technology. Cyberfest.594 will
be Chicago's first ever cyber/club event. It's taking place this
spring at one of Chicago's largest nightclubs. The event is
being co-sponsored by MCSNet (one of Chicago's largest Internet
providers) and Atomic Imaging (a really cool video production
company here in Chi-town.) We're inviting all the
top companies in Virtual Reality, 3D, computer graphics,
telecommunications and MIDI technologies to exhibit at the event.
If you're a big company, or a technological pioneer, that might
like to come down to Chicago - please send me your snail address
and I'll ship off the exhibitor information.
ALSO : Video artists, animators, bands, visual artists, et al:
If you would be interested in having your stuff seen or heard
at Cyberfest.594, please email me! Let's talk!
If you know anyone that might be interested, please forward this
message. For people that are sick of the ambiguity, I promise I'll
have more information in the next few weeks. We're confirming the
exhibitors right now. If you're not on the mailing list for attendance
info, drop me a line and I'll include ya!
you rock.
thanks again!
Dave Skwarczek
talon@mcs.com
From: tlt@meaddata.com (Troy Tanner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextStep Academic Bundle
Date: 9 Feb 1994 19:51:00 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Message-ID: <2jber4$a85@meaddata.meaddata.com>
Could some provide the name of the distributor(s) for the
NextStep Academic bundle?
Thanks
Troy
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Subject: PC Viewers!
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.091948.466@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>
From: agent009@vax1.mankato.msus.edu (Twas the night before Cobol...)
Date: 8 Feb 94 09:19:48 -0500
Organization: Mankato State University
Can anybody send me some locations to look for PC viewers/converters?
All help would be greatly appreciated! Scott.
From: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul Tognato-Haddad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Research?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 20:25:11 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
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References: <2jb6c4$op2@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2jb6c4$op2@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for the tele # of Pinnalce REsearch (designers of Virtspace).
> The phone number listed in third party products guide has been disconnected,
(602)327-8949
> and our network nameserver cannot find an address for pri.com.
Its a uucp connection, the address does work.
--
Paul (NeXTmail preferred)
# Paul R. Tognato-Haddad
:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for the tele # of Pinnalce REsearch (designers of Virtspace).
> The phone number listed in third party products guide has been disconnected,
(602)327-8949
> and our network nameserver cannot find an address for pri.com.
Its a uucp connection, the address does work.
--
Paul (NeXTmail preferred)
# Paul R.
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep Academic Bundle
Message-ID: <2jbith$je6@inxs.concert.net>
Date: 9 Feb 94 21:00:33 GMT
References: <2jber4$a85@meaddata.meaddata.com>
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
In article <2jber4$a85@meaddata.meaddata.com> tlt@meaddata.com (Troy Tanner)
writes:
>
> Could some provide the name of the distributor(s) for the
> NextStep Academic bundle?
>
Unless you are an educational reseller affiliated with NACSCORP, you cannot by
the Academic bundle for re-sale (even to the .edu crowd)...if you are
affiliated with a University, I have a listing of all college bookstores
affiliated with NACSCORP and if you provide me with a specific city or
university, I will be happy to point you where you need to go.
Dave Briggman
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From: saw@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Spawn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cost of NSi?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 21:31:17 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jbkn5$d99@netnews.upenn.edu>
I'm not exactly sure I shuld be asking this over public news, but
how much does the software to run NSi cost? I have all the RAM and
other hardware requirements, so the software would be the only cost.
If you wouldn't like to answer over the news, please let me know through
mail. Thanks.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2j77r0$gab@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 09:03:00 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb9.090300.4506@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Todd Takken (takken@raven.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
> Subject says it all.
Yes.
(But careful. eps is not eps... ;-) )
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From: ddp@cc.bellcore.com (David D. Pascua)
Subject: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black
Message-ID: <CKz8t9.J0n@walter.bellcore.com>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 21:53:32 GMT
So I was all excited to try out this 'way cool' game that everyone's
been talking about. But when I tried to run it I got an Error pop-up
window with this message:
W_GetNumForName:PNAMES not found!
Anyone want to help out this poor DOOM-less NeXT fan out?
Specifics:
NeXTColor Station
NS 3.0
-Dave
ddp@cc.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: SerialDriver screw up -- HELP!
Message-ID: <1994Feb9.161326.3457@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <1994Feb8.172745.14622@il.us.swissbank.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 16:13:26 GMT
You can remotely log in or boot single-user and fix it. Look in
/NextLibrary/Devices. I think you want to look in System.config.
Look at the document "Configuring.rtfd" in Digital Librarian's
DriverKit book for more information.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <1994Feb8.172745.14622@il.us.swissbank.com>
tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com (Tom Meyer) writes:
> Ok, so call me an idiot...
>
> I was installing the new 'Mux' serial port driver on my white
hardware
> last night when I did something rather stupid...
>
> - I installed 2 instances of the Mux driver and set them IRQs (3
and 4)
> and port addresses to those used by the default serial driver. I
then
> removed the SerialDriver from the list of used drivers [First Dumb
Move]
>
> - When I saved the configuration, it said something like
"SerialMouse
> Requires SerialPort driver to function". Like a complete moron, I
ignored
> the message thinking "well, the new serial driver will drive the
mouse".
> [Second Dumb Move]
>
> - When I rebooted the machine, whaddaya think happens ? No mouse
function.
>
> - Tried booting with 'config=Default', but I get these now pretty
obvious
> messages:
>
> Configuring Device Drivers
> PCPointerProbe: mouseInit failure
> Using default table for BusMouse
> - IoProbeDriver: No Such Device BusMouse unit 0
> Using Default table for SerialPorts
> (it just hangs here)
>
> Any suggestions ?? If I can log into my machine remotely, is there
a way
> to reconfigure the machine from the command line? Can I boot off
the CD
> ROM .If so, what is the command to do so from the 'boot:' prompt??
(yeah,
> I know, rtfm)
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> thanks,
>
> tom meyer
> tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com
>
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From: cooncat@milhaud (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Probably a FAQ--is there a working, current WWW client for NS 3.0-Motorola?
Date: 9 Feb 1994 23:02:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2jbq30$4r3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Well, as usual the subject line says it all.
Please email me directly at one of the addresses below!
Thanks!
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From: edwardtl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Travis L Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer Preference Settings
Date: 9 Feb 1994 21:31:37 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jbknp$orc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
In article <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
matthew@acehigh.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM (Matthew) writes:
> Can someone out there tell me where the preference settings are kept for
> Newsgrazer???
There is a file in .Next called .Nextdefaults.L
In this you will find close to the beginning a section similar to this:
&NewsGrazer NewsGrazerGroupBrowserWidth
From: edwardtl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Travis L Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer Preference Settings
Date: 9 Feb 1994 21:31:56 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jbkoc$org@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
In article <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
matthew@acehigh.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM (Matthew) writes:
> Can someone out there tell me where the preference settings are kept for
> Newsgrazer???
There is a file in .Next called .Nextdefaults.L
In this you will find close to the beginning a section similar to this:
&NewsGrazer NewsGrazerGroupBrowserWidth
From: edwardtl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Travis L Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer Preference Settings
Date: 9 Feb 1994 21:32:13 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jbkot$ork@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
In article <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
matthew@acehigh.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM (Matthew) writes:
> Can someone out there tell me where the preference settings are kept for
> Newsgrazer???
There is a file in .Next called .Nextdefaults.L
In this you will find close to the beginning a section similar to this:
&NewsGrazer NewsGrazerGroupBrowserWidth
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black
Date: 9 Feb 1994 23:35:02 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2jbrv6$bna@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <CKz8t9.J0n@walter.bellcore.com>
In article <CKz8t9.J0n@walter.bellcore.com> ddp@cc.bellcore.com writes:
>So I was all excited to try out this 'way cool' game that everyone's
>been talking about. But when I tried to run it I got an Error pop-up
>window with this message:
>W_GetNumForName:PNAMES not found!
>Specifics:
>NeXTColor Station
>NS 3.0
First of all, I think you need at least NS3.1, don't you?
Regardless, I had the same error. I think there is something wrong with
the Uncompress option of the Workspace File menu in NS3.0 and 3.1 because
when I uncompressed Doom.compressed, I got the error. But then I re-downloaded
the file from the ftp site, went to
a Unix prompt, and renamed the compressed file to Doom.tar.Z, then did an
uncompress, then tar -xvf on the resulting file, it unpacked properly, and
worked.
Try that!
Eric
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!
Date: 9 Feb 1994 21:55:32 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jbm4k$li3@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Just kidding!
Seriously, does anyone know when this will be a reality?
Roland
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!
Message-ID: <2jbveg$mq6@inxs.concert.net>
Date: 10 Feb 94 00:34:24 GMT
References: <2jbm4k$li3@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
In article <2jbm4k$li3@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan
<roland@gomidas.mi.org> writes:
> Just kidding!
>
> Seriously, does anyone know when this will be a reality?
>
I have heard from a FEW a Frame that a Frame 3.0 fat version is in the
works...there original pitch to me was "we're on 32 different platforms" except
they became a little cash-poor buying a lot of smaller companies. But I do hear
a port is in the works.
Dave
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From: jcl@yonext.apl.washington.edu (James C. Luby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Ptolemy software package from Berkeley
Date: 9 Feb 1994 22:21:13 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2jbnkp$c04@news.u.washington.edu>
Keywords: Ptolemy
There is a package called "Ptolemy" available via ftp 128.32.240.78 (this is a
system at Berkeley). This package is for signal processing, vector
computation, simulation studies, etc. There appear to be versions for Sun and
HP systems. If anyone has ported this package to the NeXT please let me know
as I would like to try and get a copy of the port.
Thanks!
Jim
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Differences of C binary data format on Black and White
Date: 10 Feb 1994 01:43:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2jc3f7$ea4@news.service.uci.edu>
I created a binary dat file on NeXT Step 2.1 black, copied it to a
NS/3.2 on Intel, but could not read it, or more exactly, the read out was
wrong.
Here is the program to create the data.
main()
{
int imax;
FILE *fp;
fp = fopen("test.bin",'w');
imax = 161;
fwrite(fp,sizeof(int),1,&imax);
close(fp);
}
And here is the program to read the data.
main()
{
int imax;
FILE *fp;
fp = fopen("test.bin",'r');
imax = 161;
fread(fp,sizeof(int),1,&imax);
close(fp);
}
If I run the write and read programs on the same platform, Intel or black,
I got the right read out.
If I run the write on black, and read on Intel, or vice versa, it does not
give the right answer.
However, if I run the write on a DEC station, I can read correctly on the
Intel under NS/3.2 but not on NeXT black.
It seems to me NS/I uses different binary format from that of Black NS.
But NS/I uses the same format as DEC under whatever DEC unix system.
Why would NeXT use different binary format on black and Intel?
Is there any way to force the C compiler to choose a certain format?
Any Info will help.
Thank you.
Feng Liu
UC, Irvine
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From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro)
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Message-ID: <1994Feb10.020303.26219@adobe.com>
Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <2j7su5$6hf@cisun2000.unil.ch> <CKx1ED.Bzu@cc.umontreal.ca> <2j8u2i$5fb@news.UU.NET>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 02:03:03 GMT
Remember all you folks that promised to pay 2x, 3x, 4x, etc. the
registration price if Id came out with a version that ran on all black
hardware?
Time to put your money where your mouth is. By the way, when Id ships
you the registerd *DOS* version (which is the only version you get when
you register), send it to me, since you can't use it. :-) Just kidding!
I think Id deserves every cent owed to them, and then some. I'll be
registering myself once I get my Intel machine set up.
Perry
P.S.
We tried the shareware version (MAB 1.2) networked, one player on black
hardware, one on NS/FIP. It works great! Waiting for the DOS 1.2
version before trying cross OS networking.
--
caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs with NEXTSTEP look and feel?
Date: 10 Feb 1994 02:12:09 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
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References: <ARROUYE.94Jan31190728@petole.imag.fr> <2iom62$1q1@netnews.upenn.edu> <1994Feb3.150950.4386@bnlux1.bnl.gov> <1994Feb4.172214.622@news.wesleyan.edu>
: It is significantly better than the next interface for emacs-18.59. Despite a
: number of prominent bugs (it's a beta) it is very usable. It has a way to go
: before reaching the level of emacs19 for X, but that is an enormous undertaking.
: We waited 5 years for emacs19!
: This certainly one of the best pieces of free software available for next.
And Carl is a saint, as far as I am concerned.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 20:22:04 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <0hKMkwy00iV9QARmQV@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2jb7q6$3sr@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
[..various requests for black Doom features munched..]
Just remember that ID is a lot more likely to do work on the NeXT
version if they get lots of shareware fees.
So please remember to send them their money!
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
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From: machang@random.uchicago.edu (Andrew ChinKwang Chang)
Subject: Help: Literature/Recipes display inside Librarian
Message-ID: <1994Feb10.030536.9726@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 03:05:36 GMT
For anyone does not know the Literatuer/Recipes, it is a collection of
recipes from alt.recipes(?). It was submitted to the archive with some other
literature files. Here my question is:
Has anyone successfully displayed Literature/Recipes from Librarian? I tried
this as the ".displayCommand":
tbl (or cat) %s | rcshow
but it does not work. I can use "tbl "filename" | rcshow" to open that file
on the screen. Any thoughts? Thanks
--
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Graduate School of Business, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL 60637
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From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: XV (image viewer) for NEXTSTEP? Is there one?
Message-ID: <1994Feb10.030819.3685@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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References: <1994Feb7.214807.12420@its.com> <2j96g3$otb@nntp2.stanford.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 03:08:19 GMT
In article <2j96g3$otb@nntp2.stanford.edu>,
Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
> Eric Wespestad writes
> > Does anyone know if there is such a thing as XV for NEXTSTEP.
> > XV is a shareware image viewer that is available for Suns, Indigos,
> > and other Unix boxes. I get the idea that XV requires X... True?
> > I'm really interested in XV for DPS (not X).
XV does require X, and I've not found a working version for NS 3.2
black or white. It would be nice for someone to place binaries on
the archives for XV if they have successfully compiled it for the
X emulators under NS (black and white HW).
> > If someone knows of such a tool, please could you email me the
> > location where it may be ftp'd from. I would also appreciate any
> > experience with such (assuming it exists).
> There's ImageViewer, which handles a whole lot of graphics formats,
> and translates between some of them. And its free.
ImageViewer is great -- I use it myself...but for GIF's you owe it
to yourself to check out the improvement from gamma correction
which ViewGif3 or McFilter can provide. ViewGif3 is becoming a bit
dated and had some byte ordering dependencies that precluded an
easy port to Intel. I had high hopes of making some *small* amount
of money on improving the app and have only received shareware fees
from five persons to date -- so I haven't exactly spent alot of
time on more improvements. I know ViewGif3 isn't that great, but
only 5 people are using it???
McFilter works great on both black and white, is much faster than
ViewGif3 at GIF conversion, and has the advantage of making GIF's
as easy to use as TIFF's in the NS environment. McFilter will be
improved as time is available, and I hope to eventually release a
general purpose program (McFolio) to view any image type for which
an image filter is installed, and which will provide printable
tables for saving view lists similar to CD play lists.
McFilter (MAB) can be found at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Graphics/filter/McFilter.NI.bs.tar.gz
ViewGif3 for black HW at same site (ImageViewer is in the same
directory):
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Graphics/viewer/ViewGif.3.01.N.b.tar.gz
Also, I encourage the developers of GWAgent and PBMImageFilter to
compile for Intel as well if this can be easily achieved.
> There's also PixelMagician, which handles a few more formats,
> does more conversions, and has a more elegant UI, but its commercial.
> Not unreasonably priced, but definitely more expensive than
> ImageViewer :-).
I believe another advantage of PixelMagician is enhanced support
of photo CD images and *many* more input/output formats.
ImageAgent (by the makers of PixelMagician) is a good product as
well (and only $99). Just purchase ImageAgent, and Preview.app is
able to view just about any kind of image. A nice applet to allow
a few more options for viewing and saving would be useful (i.e.
I'm working on it).
> > Otherwise, is there a utility to convert .IMG files to TIFF?
> > IMG is an unusual NASA image format.
>
> ImageViewer does not handle .IMG :-(. Not sure if PixelMagician
> does.
ImageAgent doesn't appear to...
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
From: dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu (Dru Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Differences of C binary data format on Black and White
Date: 10 Feb 1994 03:02:57 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
Message-ID: <2jc851$1on@news.scri.fsu.edu>
References: <2jc3f7$ea4@news.service.uci.edu>
The reason the two programs can't mix platforms (white/black) is due
to the 'endianess' of the processors. Intel is little endian. So
your data would be read in backwards (per word or longword).
From: poole@cs.ubc.ca (David Poole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: emacs not on my boot disk - how?
Date: 10 Feb 1994 04:06:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <2jcbrg$fso@cs.ubc.ca>
I am running short of space on my boot disk, and want to run emacs
where all of the emacs file are on an external disk.
I have tried both emacs-18.58 and emacs-18.59. Emacs needed to be loaded
on /usr/local, so what I did was to set up a soft link so that
/usr/local is a soft link to my other disk. /usr/local/lib contains
all the right stuff. BUT IT DOESN'T WORK! (If I go to the trouble of
booting from my other disk it works so I have concluded that this is
the problem, but I don't want to boot from my external disk).
Does anyone know how to fix this?
Also, is there a version of the emacs from end that can be run without
the developer version of nextstep? (I am running the non-developer
Nextstep version 3.2). All of the front ends I could find on the ftp
sites needed the development environment.
Thanks,
David
poole@cs.ubc.ca
From: swiet@panini.uwaterloo.ca (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Date: 9 Feb 94 23:22:52
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Feb9232252@panini.uwaterloo.ca>
References: <2j7su5$6hf@cisun2000.unil.ch> <2j8bii$sln@news.uu.net>
<1994Feb8.191103.11774@bcarh54a.bnr.ca>
In-reply-to: mod1coop@bcars76f's message of Tue, 8 Feb 1994 19:11:03 GMT
In article <1994Feb8.191103.11774@bcarh54a.bnr.ca> mod1coop@bcars76f (Allan Silburt) writes:
Moto only: FE ED FA CE
Multi-arch: CA FE BA BE
Wonder who picked those out...
From: poole@cs.ubc.ca (David Poole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: emacs on an external disk - how?
Date: 10 Feb 1994 04:54:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <2jcelj$g42@cs.ubc.ca>
I am running short of space on my boot (internal) disk, and want to
run emacs with the emacs files on an external disk. I have tried both
emacs-18.58 and emacs-18.59, and can't get either to work.
Emacs needed to be loaded on /usr/local, so what I did was to set up a
soft link so that /usr/local is a soft link to my other disk.
/usr/local/lib contains all the right stuff. BUT IT DOESN'T WORK!
I get the following error:
Fatal error (11).Segmentation fault
(If I go to the trouble of booting from my other disk it works so I
have concluded that this is the problem, but I don't want to boot from
my external disk all of the time).
Does anyone know how to fix this?
Also, is there a version of the emacs front end that can be run without
the developer version of nextstep? (I am running the non-developer
Nextstep version 3.2). All of the front ends I could find on the ftp
sites needed the development environment.
Thanks for any help you can give,
David
poole@cs.ubc.ca
From: poole@cs.ubc.ca (David Poole)
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From: sami@unda.fi (Sami Kukkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM
Date: 10 Feb 94 12:29:02
Organization: Unda Oy, a Scitex company
Distribution: world
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In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Wed, 9 Feb 1994 20:22:04 -0500
> Just remember that ID is a lot more likely to do work on the NeXT
> version if they get lots of shareware fees.
I will certainly register immediately if/when black HW version
has sounds. But since I have no intentions of buying any Intel
hardware I wouldn't like to pay for something that I can't use.
Also, would registration give me any free updates later? I
wouldn't want to pay $40 for an Intel version and another $40
for a working NS version...
--
Everything in this article is factual, and any resemblance to actual persons,
places or organizations living, dead or drunk, is purely intentional.
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: alt.games.doom,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Read About How ID Software Developed DOOM Under NEXTSTEP
Date: 10 Feb 1994 08:33:18 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jcrge$k88@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
DOOM was prototyped and developed using the NEXTSTEP Development environment,
on NeXT and NEXTSTEP/Intel computers. It was then ported (with relative
ease, I would guess) to DOS.
If you are interested in learning how Id accomplished this monumental task, or if you are interested in learning more about NEXTSTEP's development tools,
check out the first issue of a new magazine called Game Developer. The number
for the publisher of this magazine (Miller Freeman) = 1-800-444-4881.
Since DOOM is developed under NEXTSTEP, us NEXTSTEP users usually get first
dibs on new releases. We had been playing DOOM well before the DOS version
was out, and we have had our hands on DOOM v1.2 for about a week now! Check it
out!
PC users may consider consulting comp.sys.next.advocacy, comp.sys.next.misc,
comp.sys.next.software, and comp.sys.next.announce, for any future DOOM news,
or for further information on NEXTSTEP.
Eric
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: alt.games.doom,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Read About How ID Software Developed DOOM Under NEXTSTEP
Date: 10 Feb 1994 08:22:37 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jcqsd$k4e@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
DOOM was prototyped and developed using the NEXTSTEP Development environment,
on NeXT and NEXTSTEP/Intel computers. If you are interested in learning
how Id accomplished this monumental task, or if you are interested in
learning more about NEXTSTEP's development tools, check out the first issue
of a new magazine called Game Developer. The number for the publisher of
this magazine (Miller Freeman) = 1-800-444-4881.
Since DOOM is developed under NEXTSTEP, us NEXTSTEP users get first dibs on
new releases. We had been playing DOOM well before the DOS version was out,
and we have had our hands on DOOM v1.2 for about a week now! Check it out!
PC users may consider consulting comp.sys.next.advocacy, comp.sys.next.misc,
comp.sys.next.software, and comp.sys.next.announce, for any future DOOM news,
or for further information on NEXTSTEP.
Eric
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From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: NextStep Academic Bundle
Message-ID: <CL0MAK.69L@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <2jber4$a85@meaddata.meaddata.com> <2jbith$je6@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:42:19 GMT
info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes:
>In article <2jber4$a85@meaddata.meaddata.com> tlt@meaddata.com (Troy Tanner)
>writes:
>>
>> Could some provide the name of the distributor(s) for the
>> NextStep Academic bundle?
>>
>Unless you are an educational reseller affiliated with NACSCORP, you cannot by
>the Academic bundle for re-sale (even to the .edu crowd)...if you are
>affiliated with a University, I have a listing of all college bookstores
>affiliated with NACSCORP and if you provide me with a specific city or
>university, I will be happy to point you where you need to go.
>Dave Briggman
I am suprised that no one has mentioned the fact that any student or
academic staff member can easily get NS3.2 via mail order from
Diskovery Educational Systems. You have to establish yourself as
a actual student/faculty/staff person first. Thereafter, a simple
phone call with Visa or Master Card is all you need.
Phone: (800) 331-5489
FAX: (407) 683-8416
Diskovery is located in West Palm Beach, Florida.
--Tim
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From: sascha@anarch.do.open.de (Sascha Gresk)
Subject: Re: PGP for Next
Message-ID: <1994Feb10.162454.26916@anarch.ping.de>
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References: <CKwGxF.6sr@demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:24:54 GMT
In article <CKwGxF.6sr@demon.co.uk> paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk (Paul Meier)
writes:
> Can anyone let me know of a friendly front end for PGP running MAB under
> NS3.2? Also where do I get hold of a compiled version of PGP for NS3.2?
>
> My thanks in advance.
>
> P.S.Meier
> paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk
whatever does MAB mean ?
anyway:
we are using the NXPGP.app for daily usage; since a lot of sides
connected to our server are using Crosspoint(MSDOS), where *crypted* files
are translated in to a so-called Base64 format we have written a terminal
service for this purpose.
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Phone # for Pinnacle Research?
Date: 10 Feb 1994 16:58:24 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jdp3g$qlq@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I'm still looking for the Tele# of Pinnacle Research. (602) 237-8949
has been disconnected.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
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From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Differences of C binary data format on Black and White
Date: 10 Feb 1994 17:10:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2jdpq5$9t7@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <2jc851$1on@news.scri.fsu.edu>
In article <2jc851$1on@news.scri.fsu.edu> dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu
(Dru Nelson) writes:
>
> The reason the two programs can't mix platforms (white/black) is due
> to the 'endianess' of the processors. Intel is little endian. So
> your data would be read in backwards (per word or longword).
It seems that DEC workstations use little endian too.
In the DEC fortran compiler, you could force big_endian by using a
flag in f77. I could not find the same thing with its C compiler,
neither could I find it in the NeXT C compiler.
Is there anyway to force big_endian at all? Or is there any small
utility program that can convert one to the other?
Feng Liu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng)
Subject: Adobe font packs still available?
Message-ID: <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
Organization: University of Toronto Computing & Communications
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 17:22:13 GMT
Are Adobe font packages for the Next still available?
I'm specifically looking for the pack that contains ITC Avant Garde.
Also, is NextConnection still in business? I haven't seen their usual
ad in the latest edition of NextWorld magazine.
email replies preferred
thanks
gn
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ZMODEM for NeXTSTEP/UNIX???
Date: 10 Feb 1994 17:37:18 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2jdrceINN9m4@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Hi,
I am using ZTerm on my PowerBook at home and would like
to transfer files to/from my NeXT at school using the
ZModem protocol. Where can I get these tools for UNIX?
--
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Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069
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From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: Re: DOOM
Message-ID: <CL0oGG.JCB@cc.umontreal.ca>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
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References: <0hKMkwy00iV9QARmQV@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:29:02 GMT
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: [..various requests for black Doom features munched..]
: Just remember that ID is a lot more likely to do work on the NeXT
: version if they get lots of shareware fees.
: So please remember to send them their money!
I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps I'll send it now instead of
when (and if) they come out with a version with sound.
Thanks for the tip!
: -Chuck
: Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
: --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
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`Did you ever taste beer?' `I had a sip of it once,' said the small
servant. `Here's a state of things!' cried Mr Swiveller. `She never
tasted it -- it can't be tasted in a sip!'
Lo! the poor toper whose untutor'd sense,
Sees bliss in ale, and can with wine dispense;
Whose head proud fancy never taught to steer,
Beyond the muddy ecstasies of beer.
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From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM
Date: 10 Feb 1994 19:32:00 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2je23g$g79@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <0hKMkwy00iV9QARmQV@andrew.cmu.edu> <CL0oGG.JCB@cc.umontreal.ca>
In article <CL0oGG.JCB@cc.umontreal.ca>,
Kosmatos Odisseas <kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA> wrote:
>Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
>: [..various requests for black Doom features munched..]
>
>: Just remember that ID is a lot more likely to do work on the NeXT
>: version if they get lots of shareware fees.
>
>: So please remember to send them their money!
>
The full DOS version is $40. So, how much should I send?? Any idea?
Andy
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From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Message-ID: <thompsonCL0n9B.8tE@netcom.com>
Organization: Saperstein, et al.
References: <2j7su5$6hf@cisun2000.unil.ch> <CKx1ED.Bzu@cc.umontreal.ca> <2j8u2i$5fb@news.UU.NET> <1994Feb10.020303.26219@adobe.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:03:11 GMT
>Waiting for the DOS 1.2
>version before trying cross OS networking.
Last time I asked Id about PC <-> NEXTSTEP Doom networking, they said
forget it.. it doesn't / won't work. Maybe things will change? :)
Eric
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From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: MAB Doom
Message-ID: <1994Feb10.192948.621@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 19:29:48 GMT
Anyone try the Doom MAB on cs.orst.edu yet?
I think it's not too bad.
No sound, but I could live with it.
I'm hoping that Id Software will come out
with a full NeXTStep Motorola version soon.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2j8u55$n4k@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 22:29:27 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb9.222927.5981@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Todd Takken (takken@raven.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
>
> >> Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
> >
> > yes says it all
>
> OK. How? There doesn't seem to be a menu item which allows opening .eps
> files, and .eps files don't show up when the normal open command is
> selected.
DRAG IT. :-)
Then again, you might DROP IT...
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: How good is Tailor?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <BYER.94Feb8120648@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 22:39:33 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb9.223933.6047@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Scott Byer (byer@mv.us.adobe.com) wrote:
[...]
> It just goes to show you what good programmers can do once they
> stop worrying about the halting problem and get down to writing
> code. :-)
A corresponding problem? ;-)
Gerhar...d.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: PS previewer in NS 3.2?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2jasgh$cp3@netnews.upenn.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 07:21:02 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb10.072102.286@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Joe Panico (joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu) wrote:
> Strangely enough, I can not find the Postscript previewer in NS 3.2.
> Can someone tell me what it's called and where it is? Thanks.
Huh?
/NextApps/Preview.app
If you print something, you get a panel that has a button to preview the
document to print...
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From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black
Date: 10 Feb 1994 17:17:23 GMT
Organization: WHU Koblenz
Message-ID: <2jdq73$n0e@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de>
References: <2jbrv6$bna@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <2jbrv6$bna@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> First of all, I think you need at least NS3.1, don't you?
For black hardware, certainly not!
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From: Erik Dasque
Subject: Re: Intuitiv3d users?
Message-ID: <1994Feb8.160158.3815@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
References: <CKtI5A.44B@kaiwan.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:01:58 GMT
In article <CKtI5A.44B@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H.
Sieglinger) writes:
> I've been playing with Intuitiv3d off and on for a while, and continue
to have
> small difficulties with it. As the only documentation is online, and
that not
> really terrific, it is sometimes quite frustrating to try to get the
desired
> effects.
>
> So, it occurs to me that it might be worthwhile getting a bit of a
'users'
> discussion going. For example, I can no longer get the mirror to
reflect.
> I've rtfm'd but STILL can't make it happen. Any ideas?
>
> Anyhow, I would be interested in contact from any and all who have used
this
> app, or other 3d apps of note...also, has anyone managed to get
animation (3d)
> of broadcast quality on an ND?
>
> Thanks
>
> Chip
>
Have you read the tutorial ? I believe it covers it all and is very well
made. Also, I found the online help very complete.
Also, Tech support exist for intuitiv'3d and is handled (as well as sales)
by Intuitive Systems, in CA, USA.
Disclaimer : I do not work for them ! Hell I live in France ! ;)
Ed.
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From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Re: folder-icons
Message-ID: <1994Feb10.182528.5254@afs.com>
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
References: <KAOKI.94Feb8171507@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 18:25:28 GMT
Kenichiro Aoki writes
>In article <1994Feb7.182234.5378@simplework.octagon.de>
>mane@simplework.octagon.de (Mane Wuehr) writes:
>>I can give a folder an icon .dir.tiff and an .opendir.tiff. OK.
>>But if somebodey hasn't access-rights to this folder he sees a
>>dimmed folder. So: can one give a folder a third ,.dimdir.tiff`?
>>It's totally unimportant, but why can we paint nice folder-icons,
>>that noone can see?
> ^ else
>
>Interesting point, but isn't this a bit tricky? .(open)dir.tiff
>is just a file IN the inaccessible directory. If one wants to do
>this, logically speking, the .dimdir.tiff file needs to be in the
>.. directory (one up the directory ladder, i mean). But then, it
>needs to be named something like
> ../.directory-name.dimdir.tiff . More elegant solutions?
Workspace should composite an appropriate dimming color over whatever
tiff there is. It doesn't do that now (there's actually a separate
dim folder tiff), but IMHO it should, if only for consistency when
you have .dir.tiffs in directories without permission.
Another related note: If you watch the folder icon carefully when
you copy a file into a directory, you'll notice that there's actually
_three_ icons involved - the regular folder, the open folder, and
then a partially open folder that you see after you let go of the
file. These come from three different tiffs, folder.tiff,
openFolder.tiff, and depositFolder.tiff. But, if you put a tiff
in a directory and call it .depositdir.tiff it isn't displayed like
the deposit folder is. I looked inside the Workspace executable
and there is a string for .depositFolder.tiff, but there's none for
.depositdir.tiff. Bummer.
Thanx,
Michael
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From: mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack)
Subject: OmniImageFilter from the Omni Group?
Message-ID: <1994Feb10.215658.4734@afs.com>
Sender: mikem@afs.com
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 21:56:58 GMT
Know anything about this product? I know it provides filter services, and is
free. I'd like to know how to get a copy. It did not appear to be on the
purdue server.
Thanks!
mikem
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Are timed switches of fax modem from NO ANS to ANSWER possible?
Date: 11 Feb 1994 15:59:49 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <2jga1l$gc5@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
I would like to be able to have my fax modem (a Zyxel U-1496E) be able to
change from NO ANSWER mode to ANSWER after x rings at a given time each
evening and then back to no answer in the morning (except on weekends).
Has anyone implemented this? Is it even possible? I am using a NSTC runnig
NS 3.2 and am running Communicae and NXfax. Thanks for any help on this.
--
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From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cannot compile zmodem for NS3.2
Date: 11 Feb 1994 16:29:54 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2jgbq2$ce1@menudo.uh.edu>
Keywords: please help..
I am trying to compile zmodem for NS3.2 and am not able to do it for either
black or Intel hardware. In both cases, I get the identical error as follows:
sysmod 47$ make next
cc -O -bsd -DMD=2 -Dstrchr=index -DV7 rz.c -o rz
In file included from rbsb.c:25, from rz.c:161:
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/strings.h:23: warning: conflicting types for
built-in function `strlen'
rbsb.c: In function `mode':
In file included from rz.c:161:
rbsb.c:246: `oldtch' undeclared (first use this function)
rbsb.c:246: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
rbsb.c:246: for each function it appears in.)
rbsb.c:251: `tty' has an incomplete type
rbsb.c:252: `tch' undeclared (first use this function)
rbsb.c:258: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
rbsb.c:259: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
rbsb.c:278: `tty' has an incomplete type
rbsb.c:279: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
rbsb.c:280: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
rbsb.c:283: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
rbsb.c: At top level:
rbsb.c:153: storage size of static var `oldtty' isn't known
rbsb.c:153: storage size of static var `tty' isn't known
*** Exit 1
Stop.
sysmod 48$
I obtained the sources from cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/sources/comm
Any help will be appreciated..
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From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Adobe font packs still available?
Message-ID: <1994Feb11.162556.22419@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 16:25:56 GMT
In article <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) writes:
>Are Adobe font packages for the Next still available?
Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 325-0767
FAX: (415) 325-0768
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
>I'm specifically looking for the pack that contains ITC Avant Garde.
>
>Also, is NextConnection still in business? I haven't seen their usual
>ad in the latest edition of NextWorld magazine.
PCConnection carries NEXTSTEP software
>email replies preferred
>thanks
>gn
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269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
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From: burns@bellcore.com (James E. Burns)
Subject: Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black
In-Reply-To: ddp@cc.bellcore.com's message of Wed, 9 Feb 1994 21:53:32 GMT
Message-ID: <BURNS.94Feb11125039@wildcat.bellcore.com>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: /burns/.organization
References: <CKz8t9.J0n@walter.bellcore.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 17:50:39 GMT
>So I was all excited to try out this 'way cool' game that everyone's
>been talking about. But when I tried to run it I got an Error pop-up
>window with this message:
>W_GetNumForName:PNAMES not found!
I got a similar error when I first tried DOOM -- I had an incomplete file.
It took me three tries to get a complete version of DOOM. If you
didn't get the full 2961141 bytes you need to download it again.
(Is anyone interested in splitting up this rather large file to
allow more reliable downloading?)
jim burns
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From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe font packs still available?
Message-ID: <2jgjpk$rk5@inxs.concert.net>
Date: 11 Feb 94 18:46:12 GMT
References: <1994Feb11.162556.22419@altsys.com>
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
In article <1994Feb11.162556.22419@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers
III) writes:
> In article <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G.
Ng) writes:
> >Are Adobe font packages for the Next still available?
>
> Trilithon Software,
> Two Ohlone
> Portola Valley,
> California 94028.
> Telephone: (415) 325-0767
> FAX: (415) 325-0768
> E-mail: info@trilithon.com
>
>
> >I'm specifically looking for the pack that contains ITC Avant Garde.
> >
What you are specifically looking for is the Adobe Plus Pack which will give
you the balance of the typefaces of the standard 39 found on Apple's
LaserWriter and most other PostScript Printers. The Plus Pack is still
available through regular distribution channels still so most any reseller with
five minutes of time can order it for you.
Dave
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From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF
Date: 11 Feb 1994 20:00:08 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2jgo48$1pq@gap.caltech.edu>
Is there any software on the NeXT that can display and print the
Adobe Acrobat Portable Document Format? Thanks for any info.
Mark Adler
madler@cco.caltech.edu
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From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro)
Subject: Re: DOOM (Pay SOMETHING!)
Message-ID: <1994Feb11.201523.4231@adobe.com>
Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <0hKMkwy00iV9QARmQV@andrew.cmu.edu> <SAMI.94Feb10122902@gustav.unda.fi>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:15:23 GMT
In article <SAMI.94Feb10122902@gustav.unda.fi> sami@unda.fi (Sami Kukkonen) writes:
>> Just remember that ID is a lot more likely to do work on the NeXT
>> version if they get lots of shareware fees.
>
> I will certainly register immediately if/when black HW version
> has sounds. But since I have no intentions of buying any Intel
> hardware I wouldn't like to pay for something that I can't use.
>
If you are dissatisfied with NEXTSTEP DOOM 1.2, you have no obligation
to pay anything. That's one of the great things about shareware. In
fact, you can go ahead and post your complaints or wishes here or to Id
directly. Then, just delete the files from your machine and forget all
about it.
If, however, you withhold your money, but keep the game anyway, and
play it (for hours, probably), and get some value out of it, you should
pay something. We want to encourage shareware in general, and NEXTSTEP
development in particular. Holding out, because the early release
NEXTSTEP version doesn't have every single feature that the DOS
shareware version has, fails to credit Id for releasing a NEXTSTEP
version at all. They didn't have to do it, ya know. The NEXTSTEP
market is peanuts compared to the DOS market. Id is doing a
Linux/XFree86 version, as an experiment. Wouldn't it be embarrassing
if the relatively puny (to DOS) Linux user base generated more
shareware registrations than NEXTSTEP?
Send a check. I'd suggest a minimum of $5. Anything less probably
wouldn't be worth the cost of cashing the check. If you aren't paying
the full registration price, don't call the number and try to use a
credit card. You'll just confuse them and waste your time and theirs.
Include a note with the following:
* You are fully aware that the full registration price is $40,
and that you are not attempting to register, and that you
won't register until (insert your reasons here).
* Id is welcome to cash your check anyway, as an "incentive bonus"
to continue to support NEXTSTEP, and to bring the feature set
up to par with the DOS version.
* You understand that your "incentive bonus" will NOT count towards
an eventual registration fee (in other words, you are willing
to pay the full $40 sometime in the future). Id cannot be
expected to keep accounts for everyone, and discount fees
accordingly. You understand that any money you pay now is
IN ADDITION to any full fees in the future.
* Say "Thank You". :-)
For myself, I've got an Intel machine on order, and I'll be registering
as soon as I've got the thing installed.
Perry
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From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sonogram software - printing
Date: 11 Feb 1994 15:21:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402112122.AA23292@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
We have some in some respects sadly rather crude and tailored to our
own needs software that you might be interested in....
I have a command-line fft program which produces "sonagram" data in the
format we use, and a display package for viewing the data as a
spectrogram from which you can then print out EPS or TIFF files.
I can send you these if you want. They'll almost certainly need some
further customisation for your own needs, but I can do that for you --
I'd appreciate any feedback you have on the app!
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
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From: jtod@access.netaxs.com (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD Net compilations still avail?
Date: 11 Feb 1994 21:04:08 GMT
Organization: Minimal Levels
Message-ID: <2jgrs8$ou@netaxs.com>
Summary: Need CD ROM FTP anonymous compilations
Keywords: NeXT, CD-ROM, anonymous, sproing
I know a while ago there were quite a few CDs floating around with most of
the software on the Internet for the NeXT. Does anyone still put out one of
these? Actually, I'm just looking to free up a lot of my hard drive, so
disks with ALL of the archives would really be great (eg: cs.orst.edu or
sonata.cc.purdue) I don't need up-to-the-moment, but within four months or
so. Any ideas? If you've got one used, I'll take that, too.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer Preference Settings
Message-ID: <1994Feb11.192854.2764@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <2jbkot$ork@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 19:28:54 GMT
No, don't touch that. That file is the defaults database. You
access it using the "dread", "dwrite" and "dremove" commands. Don't
edit it by hand since you're bound to corrupt all your defaults for
all your applications.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <2jbkot$ork@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
edwardtl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Travis L Edwards) writes:
> In article <2j62ig$3f5@bantu.provo.novell.com>
> matthew@acehigh.NPD.Provo.Novell.COM (Matthew) writes:
> > Can someone out there tell me where the preference settings are
kept for
> > Newsgrazer???
>
>
>
>
> There is a file in .Next called .Nextdefaults.L
> In this you will find close to the beginning a section similar to
this:
> &NewsGrazer NewsGrazerGroupBrowserWidth
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Adobe font packs still available?
Message-ID: <1994Feb11.193751.2836@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 19:37:51 GMT
Contact Trilithon Software (info@trilithon.com), Paget Press,
(info@paget.com), or Abstract Software (info@abstractsoft.com)
Also, NeXTConnection has been folded into PCConnection. You can
contact them by calling (800) 800-NEXT in the U.S. I don't what the
international number is.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) writes:
> Are Adobe font packages for the Next still available?
>
> I'm specifically looking for the pack that contains ITC Avant
Garde.
>
> Also, is NextConnection still in business? I haven't seen their
usual
> ad in the latest edition of NextWorld magazine.
>
> email replies preferred
> thanks
> gn
From: nlau@sct.edu (Neric Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT "fuck up" ?
Message-ID: <2jh31u$1htv@st6000.sct.edu>
Date: 11 Feb 94 23:06:38 GMT
Organization: Southern College of Technology, Atlanta
I am writing a research paper on why Next computer fail on the workstation
market. anyone outthere can send me the information about the good and bad thingon NeXT.
Please send the information to nlau@st6000.sct.edu
Neric Lau
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff)
Subject: gcc, gas, ld
Message-ID: <1994Feb11.223559.16692@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Keywords: compiler
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 22:35:59 GMT
Has anyone compile the latest gcc, gas and ld for NeXT step 3.1 and/or 3.2?
We have several nexts here and due to a misunderstanding we did not purchase
the developer kit with the upgrade for them. The price has since gone up and
the budget has emptied.
All that is really need is a C compiler.
Any help would be appreciated.
--
Karl Hakimian
hakimian@eecs.wsu.edu
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU (David W. Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black
Message-ID: <138115@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 12 Feb 94 00:33:44 GMT
References: <2jbrv6$bna@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <2jdq73$n0e@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de>
Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
In article <2jdq73$n0e@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de> wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein) writes:
>In article <2jbrv6$bna@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
>(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>> First of all, I think you need at least NS3.1, don't you?
>For black hardware, certainly not!
>--
Really?? I tried runnin Doom on my '40 cube using 2.1, it wouldn't even
start up.. I assumed it was my old O/S?
--
David W Rinker
Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Co-Op: CSX Transportation. Jax, FL 32202
Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Marbel Teleconnect, NS3.2, ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
Date: 11 Feb 1994 16:23:07 GMT
Organization: Suite Software
Message-ID: <2jgbdb$27m@bilbo.suite.com>
Help! Since upgrading to NS3.2 (black hardware) I have been getting the
following messages on the console during boot:
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR
du0: address automatically set to 0.0.0.0
.
.
.
du9: address automatically set to 0.0.0.0
The only clues I have are that Marble Teleconnect uses these devices
du0,du1,etc... Teleconnect still seems to work. I just don't know what
these messages are trying to tell me. Should I be concerned?? Any info
would be greatly appreciated! :-)
Scot
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WWW or mosaic client for NS 3.0-Motorola?
Date: 12 Feb 1994 01:42:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jhc5i$28n@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2jbq30$4r3@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <2jbq30$4r3@agate.berkeley.edu> cooncat@milhaud (Jessica L.
Mosher) writes:
> Well, as usual the subject line says it all.
> Please email me directly at one of the addresses below!
> Thanks!
> --
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jessica L. Mosher
Mills College
Oakland, CA USA
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: New NewsGrazer has new features?
Date: 11 Feb 1994 23:12:42 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jhkvq$mpf@digifix.digifix.com>
The announcement from NeXT came through my machine tonight about a new version
of NewsGrazer that is MAB.
After verifying that the program is actually there, and FAT, I've been playing
with it, and it seems to have a couple of new features.
Here's the list of the differences between version 75 and version 72.3.
Fixed bugs
Writes out cleaner .newsrc file
Handles cross referenced articles
Better sorting of articles with same subject
New features
support for Intel as well as Motorola platforms.
____________________
Once again... thanks Next.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: denis@quartz.tucson.az.us (denis norton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT "f####up" ?
Date: 12 Feb 1994 03:54:26 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
Message-ID: <2jhjti$l0q@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
References: <2jh31u$1htv@st6000.sct.edu>
> I am writing a research paper on why Next computer fail on the workstation
> Neric Lau
I certainly dont consider this a failure. Many folks have and are
deriving tremendous benefit from the best yet value that we got for
our bucks in buying this hardware. there is nothing comparable
yet. clearly your language could be improved as a scholar.
--
denis norton denis@quartz.tucson.az.us
From: gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP Notebook Computers
Date: 12 Feb 1994 04:44:53 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jhms5$63l@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: NEXTSTEP Notebook Computers
======================================================================
/ _____/ _ / |
/ \ / / / / | Fine Portable NEXTSTEP
/ \ / / ___/ | Products
__/ __/ _____/ __/roducts |
======================================================================
NSProducts introduces the NextBook VLB
Portable NEXTSTEP Notebooks
======================================================================
NSProducts introduces today the first line of its NEXTSTEP Notebooks -
The NextBook VLB
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Since the advent of the Intel version of NEXTSTEP, many people have
been looking forward to see a notebook machine powerful enough to
allow them to use NEXTSTEP at the office, at home or on the road.
NSProducts is proud to announce that the first of its NEXTSTEP
Notebooks are now available: a full range of models from low cost
33MHz monochrome up to high-end 66MHz active matrix models - all
suitable as workstations. Based on the same model as the Intelligent
Notebook Systems VESABook series, these Notebooks come with the
NEXTSTEP operating system preinstalled: you will have your machine
ready to run out of the box, with the proper drivers installed from
a company that is firmly committed to NEXTSTEP.
Since our agreement with NeXT does not allow us to sell the academic
version, please notice that academic users must purchase NEXTSTEP
through their campus reseller first. They may then send us their
serial number and we will ship the notebook with the academic version
preinstalled.
Also, purchase of the computer without any software installed will be
allowed for those who have already purchased NEXTSTEP and want to
install it themselves.
The NextBook VLB Series
-----------------------
The NextBook VLB series is ideal for its price/performance ratio.
They feature 32-bit local bus with accelerated graphics, keyboard
port, mouse port, external video port able to provide full color
SVGA, serial ports, parallel port and 2 PCMCIA Type II/1 Type III
slot(s).
The NextBook VLB comes standard with a removable 340MB hard disk
and 16MB DRAM upgradeable to 20MB, while we offer you the possibility
to chose 33Mhz or 66Mhz processors as well as monochrome, dual-scan
or active matrix color, so you can pick the best one for your needs.
VIDEO
With 512Kb VRAM accelerated local bus graphics, you can get up to
1024x768x16 resolution on an external monitor when drivers become
available. For those who want superior graphics performance now,
the NextBook VLB can be connected to a docking station that provides
2 VLB slots and 2 ISA slots. The VLB slots allow high speed graphics
at up to 1600x1200 resolution and 24-bit color with the appropriate
graphics card. This full feature docking station replicates all of
the ports found on the NextBook, includes stereo speakers, a 3.5 inch
bay, a 5.25 inch bay, and a SCSI-2 port. Under normal use, its NiCad
battery can last more than 2.5 hours, that is a quite nice amount of
time for this class of portable workstation. It features a nice
wristrest area and a 16mm trackball. And, yes, it has Enhanced Parallel
Ports. Weight is a little over 6 pounds.
This machine and its docking station are shipping now.
Order form
----------
======================================================================
NSProducts, PO Box 9183, #211, Cambridge MA 02139, USA
Name: _____________________________________________________________
Company: _____________________________________________________________
Address: _____________________________________________________________
: _____________________________________________________________
: _____________________________________________________________
Country: _____________________________________________________________
Phone W: _____________________________________________________________
Phone H: _____________________________________________________________
Email: _____________________________________________________________
Payment by: Visa MasterCard Money Order Check
Credit Card #:
Expiration date:
Academic NEXTSTEP Serial #:
ACADEMIC PURCHASES of NEXTSTEP must be made through your campus
reseller first. Send us your NS serial number and we will ship the
NSP Notebook with NEXTSTEP preinstalled.
NextBooks
---------
monochrome 33DX 340/16 no software $2,800
dual scan 33DX 340/16 no software 3,375
active color 33DX 340/16 no software 4,250
Upgrades, OS, and Peripherals
-----------------------------
66DX2 instead of 33DX processor $225
Additional 4MB RAM 300
NS/i 3.2 User preinstalled 575
NS/i 3.2 Developer preinstalled 1,450 Requires User Software
Installation for those who already own NS 50
Docking Station 450
Car Power Adapter 75
NiCAD Battery Pack 100
Graphics Cards Price Resolution
--------------- ----- -----------
Number 9 Level 11 2MB $390 1280x1024x256 1024x768x65k 800x600x16m
Number 9 Level 12 3MB 450 1280x1024x256 1024x768x65k 800x600x16m
Number 9 Level 14 4MB 680 1600x1200x256 1152x900x65k 1024x768x16m
Matrox MGA IMP 3V 3MB 950 1280x1024x256 1152x900x65k 1024x768x16m
Matrox MGA IMP 3VH 3MB 1,050 same as the 3V above plus 1600x1200x256
Matrox MGA Pro 4V 4.5MB 1,250 1280x1024x16m
Other Charges
--------------
Massachusetts Residents only - 5% sales tax
Visa and Mastercard purchases - 5% processing fee
US Shipping for each notebook $50
US Shipping for each dock 25
International shipping for each notebook 125
International shipping for each dock 50
1 year warranty on parts and labor. Undamaged items may be returned
within 15 days for refund. A 10% restocking fee will be charged for
returned items.
FEBRUARY TRIAL SPECIAL. Customers may purchase Nextbooks now and try
them for the rest of the month, if not satisfied they may return all
purchased goods before March 1st for a full refund.
Send orders by postal mail to: Send orders by E-Mail to:
NSProducts nsp@world.std.com
PO Box 9183, #211
Cambridge, MA 02139
USA
===================================================================
/ _____/ _ / |
/ \ / / / / | Fine Portable NEXTSTEP
/ \ / / ___/ | Products
__/ __/ _____/ __/roducts |
===================================================================
For more information send questions to nsp@world.std.com
===================================================================
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New NewsGrazer has new features?
Date: 12 Feb 1994 05:22:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jhp3f$o93@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2jhkvq$mpf@digifix.digifix.com>
In article <2jhkvq$mpf@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
> Fixed bugs
> Writes out cleaner .newsrc file
> Handles cross referenced articles
> Better sorting of articles with same subject
I assume you mean the fact that when you "mark read" a post in say
c.s.n.software that was cross posted to advocacy and then move to
c.s.n.advocacy you'll find that the post is already marked read. Very nice.
Now if it could only handle binary extractions better...
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable.
If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X?
==============================================================================
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How good is Tailor?
Date: 10 Feb 1994 20:06:10 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2je0j2$cs@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2j6ivj$1f1@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
dario@voluptas (Dario Ringach) writes:
>Has anyone had any experience with Tailor? It is a postscript
>utility that allows the edititing of EPS files and save the
>result back into EPS format. Any comments about this piece of
>software?
Tailor does not only allow editing EPS files, it even allows editing
multi-page PS printfiles! Tailor eats up almost any kind of PostScript,
even very dirty Windoze junk-PS. The only PS it cannot deal with is
dvips output, but this is of course not the main usage of Tailor.
My personal opinion is that Tailor is a very good and innovative
piece of software.
Regards,
Markus.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SerialDriver screw up -- HELP!
Date: 10 Feb 1994 23:07:37 GMT
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Sender: mow@marsu (Markus Wenzel)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jeenp$85@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1994Feb8.172745.14622@il.us.swissbank.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <1994Feb8.172745.14622@il.us.swissbank.com>, tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com (Tom Meyer) writes:
> Configuring Device Drivers
> PCPointerProbe: mouseInit failure
> Using default table for BusMouse
> - IoProbeDriver: No Such Device BusMouse unit 0
> Using Default table for SerialPorts
> (it just hangs here)
>
> Any suggestions ?? If I can log into my machine remotely, is there a way
> to reconfigure the machine from the command line? Can I boot off the CD
> ROM .If so, what is the command to do so from the 'boot:' prompt?? (yeah,
> I know, rtfm)
Boot in single user mode (boot: -s), mount the NeXTSTEP CD manually,
copy back /usr/Devices/* from CD and reboot with config=Default.
Be sure to remove all old Instance?.table files.
Regards,
Markus.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flash!jon@myxa.com
Subject: Re: New NewsGrazer has new features?
Message-ID: <CL3Iyr.v6@dsinc!flash>
Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry)
Organization: Who Needs It?
References: <2jhkvq$mpf@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 05:23:13 GMT
In article <2jhkvq$mpf@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
>
>After verifying that the program is actually there, and FAT, I've been playing
>with it, and it seems to have a couple of new features.
>
>Here's the list of the differences between version 75 and version 72.3.
>
>Fixed bugs
> Writes out cleaner .newsrc file
> Handles cross referenced articles
> Better sorting of articles with same subject
However, it has troubles with "Catch Up". If you have a lot of articles to
catch up on, NewsGrazer dies. Also, selecting all the articles and using the
"Mark Read" menuitem kills it as well.
- Jon
--
Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New NewsGrazer has new features?
Date: 12 Feb 1994 00:53:04 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jhqs0$q7t@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <2jhp3f$o93@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Alex Currier writes
> In article <2jhkvq$mpf@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
> Anguish) writes:
>
> > Fixed bugs
> > Writes out cleaner .newsrc file
> > Handles cross referenced articles
> > Better sorting of articles with same subject
>
> I assume you mean the fact that when you "mark read" a post in say
> c.s.n.software that was cross posted to advocacy and then move to
> c.s.n.advocacy you'll find that the post is already marked read. Very nice.
> Now if it could only handle binary extractions better...
>
Yes, thats what I meant, but to be fair that change list is from the
NewsGrazer help file, I started to right up what I had noticed, and then found
that, and edited the message.
Still, until we get NewsGrazer Pro, this fills the void.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple Powerbook and Next
Date: 9 Feb 1994 13:53:25 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2japsl$4rc@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <2j5fss$iv8@hp4at.eunet.co.at>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
alfred@ca-risc.co.at wrote:
: How would I connect a Powerbook and a Next (black)? I mean really connect!
: Since I do not believe that notebooks with descent resolutions (at least 1024
: 768) will be available anytime soon, a Powerbook seems a nice alternative to
: the crowded screens of a 486 notebook -> do not give DOS a chance 8-).
: Any experience, suggestions do_s and dont_s?
Sure, get a powerbook that has built in ethernet, get a thin net adapter
for it, and connect then via ip. NFS mounting should work like a charm, or
you can run CAP on the NeXT and do AppleTalk (tho I would recommend NFS).
Try one of the new Apple Blackbirds due out in March.
--
Christian Smith
aka Blackplague
PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM!
Date: 11 Feb 1994 20:25:22 -0500
Organization: Collins International Services Company
Message-ID: <2jhb62$38v@sgate.com>
References: <2j7su5$6hf@cisun2000.unil.ch> <1994Feb8.191103.11774@bcarh54a.bnr.ca> <thompsonCKxz7v.2v4@netcom.com> <2ja1dr$7hs@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Keywords: TwoBitGray, EightBitGray, TwelveBitRGB
[as a note to a previous article: all ya gotta do is type "file filename" to
see if it's MAB or not:
-> file /LocalApps/Games/Doom.app/Doom
/LocalApps/Games/Doom.app/Doom: Mach-O executable (for architecture m68k)
-> file /OtherApps/Games/Doom.app/Doom
/OtherApps/Games/Doom.app/Doom: fat file with 2 architecture(s)
/OtherApps/Games/Doom.app/Doom (for architecture m68k): Mach-O executable
/OtherApps/Games/Doom.app/Doom (for architecture i486): Mach-O executable
These are on different systems, of course.]
In article <2ja1dr$7hs@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) writes:
>OH GOD! I just play it in my Black NeXT Turbo.........It is too cool
>except there is no sound.......
>If I buy the DOS version, can I get the sound too??
>Andy
The DOS version supports SoundBlaster cards, and ProAudio Spectrum comes with
Doom 1.2 (not verified yet). You also get the PC speaker, which sucks in
comparison but it is nice to know when a monster spots you or a secret door
just opened up. I dmaud'd out all of the sounds and converted them to .au
files. Man, I can't wait to hear them through headphones during game play.
The .advocacy newsgroup has been taken off the newsgroups list.
------
Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
------
Churchill's Commentary on Man:
Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the
time he will pick himself up and continue on.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shin@osushi.esug.co.jp (Shinichirou Sugou)
Subject: Re: Differences of C binary data format on Black and White
In-Reply-To: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu's message of 10 Feb 1994 17:10:29 GMT
Message-ID: <SHIN.94Feb12175505@osushi.esug.co.jp>
Sender: shin@osushi.esug.co.jp (Shinichirou Sugou)
Organization: SG Total Planning, Japan
References: <2jc851$1on@news.scri.fsu.edu> <2jdpq5$9t7@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 08:55:05 GMT
In article <2jdpq5$9t7@news.service.uci.edu> feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes:
Path: osushi!iijnet!news.iij.ad.jp!wnoc-tyo-news!nec-tyo!nec-gw!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!news.service.uci.edu!usenet
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Feb 1994 17:10:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
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In article <2jc851$1on@news.scri.fsu.edu> dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu
(Dru Nelson) writes:
>
> The reason the two programs can't mix platforms (white/black) is due
> to the 'endianess' of the processors. Intel is little endian. So
> your data would be read in backwards (per word or longword).
It seems that DEC workstations use little endian too.
In the DEC fortran compiler, you could force big_endian by using a
flag in f77. I could not find the same thing with its C compiler,
neither could I find it in the NeXT C compiler.
Is there anyway to force big_endian at all? Or is there any small
utility program that can convert one to the other?
Feng Liu
In NEXTSTEP, you have to use NXStream functions instead of UNIX
fopen() related functions to get the data compatibility.
--
Shin'ichirou Sugou (NeXTmail acceptable)
--
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Shin'ichirou Sugou (NeXTmail acceptable)
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MAB NewsGrazer Available
Date: 12 Feb 1994 18:02:26 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2jj5ji$e85@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
For all those who claim NeXT is unresponsive:
> From: bryce_jasmer@NeXT.COM (Bryce Jasmer)
> Subject: SUBMISSION: MAB NewsGrazer Available Via The Net
> Date: 11 Feb 1994 22:56:19 -0500
>
> In response to customer requests, NeXT Computer, Inc. has placed
> a MAB version of NewsGrazer.app on the net.
>
> The binary can be found as...
> ftp site: cs.orst.edu
> filename: /pub/next/submissions/NewsGrazer75.tar.Z
Ciao, Stefano
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Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: SURVEY: Who's (still) using Parabase?
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 18:16:31 GMT
Message-ID: <CL4IrK.3Gs@crash.cts.com>
Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem)
A couple of months ago, I had posted a note to the NeXT community asking
for suggestions on databases. After lots of investigation, we settled on
Parabase. $3000 later, we're less than satisfied. We almost feel duped.
It's been very difficult to get support from the company, the software
does not match the manual at all, and there doesn't seem to be much hope
for a new version of the manual or software any time soon. We regret
not buying several licenses of Dataphile and saving our money and
living with the constraints of Dataphile.
Anyway, we have Parabase, so we're trying to make the most of it. I am
curious to know who out there is also using it, and if so, what you think
of it. What has been your experience? Both with the software and the
company?
- bd
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: MAB version of Cassandra?
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 18:18:20 GMT
Message-ID: <CL4IuL.3I7@crash.cts.com>
Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem)
Anyone know if there ever was a MAB version of Cassandra made available?
We are reviewing version 1.5. Is this the latest version?
- bd
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: MAB version of Cassandra?
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 18:27:25 GMT
Message-ID: <CL4J9u.3zu@crash.cts.com>
References: <CL4IuL.3I7@crash.cts.com>
Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem)
Opps, asked too soon. I see the source is available on cs.orst.edu.
"Never mind"... :-/
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Phone # for Pinnacle Research?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2jdp3g$qlq@netnews.upenn.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 07:33:12 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb12.073312.1564@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Joe Panico (joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm still looking for the Tele# of Pinnacle Research. (602) 237-8949
> has been disconnected.
Pinnacle Research, Inc.
info@pri.com
(602)529-1135
(602)529-0117 (fax)
4725 E. Sunrise Dr. #435
Tucson, AZ 85718
USA
VirtSpace, VWall, Sequence, WetPaint, Inspected by: Pinnacle
Gerhard.
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From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MAB NewsGrazer Available
Date: 12 Feb 94 13:44:46
Organization: Dubious.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Feb12134446@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
References: <2jj5ji$e85@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In-reply-to: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu's message of 12 Feb 1994 18:02:26 GMT
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes:
| For all those who claim NeXT is unresponsive:
|
| > From: bryce_jasmer@NeXT.COM (Bryce Jasmer)
| > Subject: SUBMISSION: MAB NewsGrazer Available Via The Net
| > Date: 11 Feb 1994 22:56:19 -0500
| [...]
After *how* long? That's not exactly what I'd call "responsiveness." Maybe
"finally giving in."
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From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca
Subject: Re: FAT DOOM! How do you go anywhere???
Message-ID: <1994Feb12.194843.17433@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <CKyAp4.5K0@nosloc.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 19:48:43 GMT
> I can run around but can't get anywhere.
> To all those who have played, what do I need to do to get moving?
Good grief, read the instructions. If you can't find the instructions,
don't bother playing Doom, because you're not going to get very far...
---
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Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
From: chacho@pafosu2 (Tom Chacho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFF images with unwanted white backgrounds
Date: 12 Feb 1994 22:22:20 GMT
Organization: 7th Communications Group, Wash D.C.
Message-ID: <2jjkqs$mfr@hq.hq.af.mil>
Can anyone point me in the direction of getting rid of white backgounds
in TIFF images.
I have brought over a TIFF image from a Mac using Adobe Photoshop. The White
background area was converted to an Alpha channel. When I tranfer the image
to a Next, running nextstep 3.0, I open the image in Icon Builder. Icon builder
show that the alpha channel is present. both 24 bit and 2 bit boxes are checked.
The image looks fine on the screen, however when I send the image, after pasting
it into concurrence, the white box get printed on my Tektronix Phaser IIPXi.
I was under the impression that if I got the image to look good on the screen
I had it made.
Would any one know if there is a similar program on the next that does the same
think as Adobe Photoshop?
Please E-mail your responses to: chacho@pafosu2.hq.af.mil
Thanks.
/usr/bin/sh: send: not found
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: TIFF images with unwanted white backgrounds
Message-ID: <1994Feb12.234235.9993@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <2jjkqs$mfr@hq.hq.af.mil>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 23:42:35 GMT
In article <2jjkqs$mfr@hq.hq.af.mil> chacho@pafosu2 (Tom Chacho) writes:
>>Can anyone point me in the direction of getting rid of white backgounds
>>in TIFF images.
>>
>>I have brought over a TIFF image from a Mac using Adobe Photoshop. The White
>>background area was converted to an Alpha channel. When I tranfer the image
>>to a Next, running nextstep 3.0, I open the image in Icon Builder. Icon builder
>>show that the alpha channel is present. both 24 bit and 2 bit boxes are checked.
>>The image looks fine on the screen, however when I send the image, after pasting
>>it into concurrence, the white box get printed on my Tektronix Phaser IIPXi.
>>
>>I was under the impression that if I got the image to look good on the screen
>>I had it made.
>>
The only Postscript that understands alpha is NeXTSTEP's Display Postscript.
If you depend on alpha in a TIFF, and you mix it with EPS, you're going to
be disappointed. Unless they rasterize on the way out, you're screwed.
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From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Most efficient news reader, nn, tin ?
Message-ID: <CL557C.Hwx@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 02:21:11 GMT
I am using nn. I subscribed 70 groups, and am spending 2 hours for every
other days on reading net news, So reading and keeping track of the
articles efficiently is far important than a fancy user interface.
I think nn is very efficient. If you had experience on more efficient
implementation on NeXT, could you please tell me your suggestion ?
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
From: jeddak@echonyc.com (Jonathan Donald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CD Net compilations still avail?
Date: 12 Feb 1994 23:30:39 GMT
Organization: ECHO BBS & Public Access Internet Site, NYC
Message-ID: <2jjoqv$1ko@subway.echonyc.com>
References: <2jgrs8$ou@netaxs.com>
John Todd (jtod@access.netaxs.com) wrote:
: I know a while ago there were quite a few CDs floating around with most of
: the software on the Internet for the NeXT. Does anyone still put out one of
: these? Actually, I'm just looking to free up a lot of my hard drive, so
: disks with ALL of the archives would really be great (eg: cs.orst.edu or
: sonata.cc.purdue) I don't need up-to-the-moment, but within four months or
: so. Any ideas? If you've got one used, I'll take that, too.
: --
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From: wolf@lanl.gov (David R Wolf)
Subject: HELP: latex and eps
Message-ID: <1994Feb11.200431.27577@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:04:31 GMT
HELP!!!
I've tried the prescription mentioned in the on-line tex manual for
including eps files in a latex document with very limited success.
What is the correct way to include eps files (Mathematica, Frame-
maker, Draw output for examples) into a LaTeX document?
Examples of how to properly size and reserve space for the image would
be greatly appreciated.
I will summarize and post the results for all after trying them out
myself.
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=======================================================================
From: richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer version 75 - Forever Busy
Date: 12 Feb 1994 11:49:56 -0800
Organization: runner
Sender: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jjbt4$ep1@runner.uucp>
Keywords: NewsGrazer Bug
I am having an intrrmitant problem when running the new NewsGrazer
(Release 3, Version 75). Occasionally, NewsGrazer shows busy (mouse
pointer becomes a rotating disk) uses lots of cpu time, and stays busy for
ever. (or until I kill it from a terminal window.)
NewsGrazer running on
NeXTStation Color running 3.2 with 32Mb ram
This is not the NewsGrazer exiting problem that occurs when version 72.3
tries to read an article with a bad header. I also tried deleting the
NewsGrazer entries in the defaults database and starting from scratch no
luck. NewsGrazer release 72.3 is still working fine.
Any ideas?
--
Richard
richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
(ok to send NeXT Mail)
From: mallen@palpatine (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone got joe? (editor)
Date: 13 Feb 1994 10:32:52 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Message-ID: <2jkvkk$6bk@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Hello there! Does anyone out there have a binary of
joe's easy editor? (Or can tell me what flags I should
use to get it to compile?) My linker keeps complaining
about multiply defined symbols.
I have been using the bsd.makefile. Is there one that would
work better with Mach/NeXT??
If you've got a binary of the file, please NeXTMail it
my way. If not, send some suggestions!! :-) Thanks.
Mark
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Most efficient news reader, nn, tin ?
Date: 13 Feb 1994 10:17:36 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2jkuo0$1lg@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <CL557C.Hwx@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>I am using nn. I subscribed 70 groups, and am spending 2 hours for every
>other days on reading net news, So reading and keeping track of the
>articles efficiently is far important than a fancy user interface.
>
>I think nn is very efficient. If you had experience on more efficient
>implementation on NeXT, could you please tell me your suggestion ?
>
>Mr.WONG Sai Kee
>Graduate Student
In terms of efficiency (as you have defined it) trn is way more
efficient. Threading is everything in my opinion. I have no problems
with the speed of trn on a NeXT either.
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From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.015322.2650@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <2jbm4k$li3@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 01:53:22 GMT
In article <2jbm4k$li3@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan
<roland@gomidas.mi.org> writes:
> Just kidding!
>
> Seriously, does anyone know when this will be a reality?
I used to think it would be when Hell froze over, but that happened
earlier this week. Even the New York Stock Exchange closed early Friday.
Seriously, don't hold your breath.
--
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Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are
Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
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From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: pbmtoepsi
Message-ID: <CL4M1F.6I5@moksha.uucp>
Keywords: eps,epsi,postscript,pbmplus
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 19:27:15 GMT
I'm trying to compile pbmtoepsi to go along with the package ps2eps-11 to
convert eps to epsi for viewing on a mac. I need the pbmplus library
(libpbm.a). All I can find for the NeXT is the pbmplus binaries. The pbmplus
sources look pretty daunting to configure to compile in NeXT's screwed-up
include environment. Has anybody done this (obviuously SOMEBODY has; there
are those NeXt-compatible binaries. Why no source to go along with them ?) ?
Does anybody have the apporopriate makefiles or a NeXT binary for pbmtoepsi
they can send me ? Any help or pointers would be much appreciated.
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
--
-Michael
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!
Date: 13 Feb 1994 15:29:49 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb13152949@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
References: <2jbm4k$li3@zip.eecs.umich.edu> <1994Feb13.015322.2650@afs.com>
In-reply-to: Greg_Anderson@afs.com's message of Sun, 13 Feb 1994 01:53:22 GMT
In article <1994Feb13.015322.2650@afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) writes:
In article <2jbm4k$li3@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan
<roland@gomidas.mi.org> writes:
> Just kidding!
>
> Seriously, does anyone know when this will be a reality?
I used to think it would be when Hell froze over, but that happened
earlier this week. Even the New York Stock Exchange closed early Friday.
Seriously, don't hold your breath.
Yeah, a bit like PasteUp in that respect. Now where *did* I put my scuba
gear?
grumble,
Scott
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From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Most efficient news reader, nn, tin ?
Date: 13 Feb 1994 15:45:01 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <2jlhtt$1ph@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <CL557C.Hwx@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> <2jkuo0$1lg@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
: >I am using nn. I subscribed 70 groups, and am spending 2 hours for every
: >other days on reading net news, So reading and keeping track of the
: >articles efficiently is far important than a fancy user interface.
: >
: >I think nn is very efficient. If you had experience on more efficient
: >implementation on NeXT, could you please tell me your suggestion ?
: >
: >Mr.WONG Sai Kee
: >Graduate Student
: In terms of efficiency (as you have defined it) trn is way more
: efficient. Threading is everything in my opinion. I have no problems
: with the speed of trn on a NeXT either.
I agree that threading is a must. But tin has a much, much nicer interface
than trn. Also, see if you can access a NNTP server that provides indices --
otherwise, you need to index the groups locally, which is very slow
and chews up disk space.
--
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University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
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From: fineman@grizzly.cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam)
Subject: Is there any virtual desktop for white?
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.164158.24563@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 94 16:41:58 GMT
Hi all --
i've downloaded Desktop2.0 & Virtspace, but they're only for motorola!
drat! I'd love to have a virtual desktop... is there one out there
for intel?
thanx
dan
fineman@cs.washington.edu ascii please
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From: cowboy@trans (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Anyone able to print to a Parallel printer using SoftPC?
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.165153.18640@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 16:51:53 GMT
I was wondering if anyone with white hardware has been successful,
attaching a parallel printer to a NeXTSTEP computer and using SoftPC,
print some simple text through the parallel port to a dot matrix
printer.
Also, anyone able to print to a dot matrix printer attached to a
Novell queue. I figure I will set up an unknown printer and see what
happens, using only a text file, but I was curious if anyone has some
experience doing this?
Regards and TIA,
Joe
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From: ddp@cc.bellcore.com (David D. Pascua)
Subject: Summary -- Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black
Message-ID: <CL68x2.ADs@walter.bellcore.com>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
References: <BURNS.94Feb11125039@wildcat.bellcore.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 16:39:02 GMT
I wrote:
>So I was all excited to try out this 'way cool' game that everyone's
>been talking about. But when I tried to run it I got an Error pop-up
>window with this message:
>W_GetNumForName:PNAMES not found!
So I downloaded the FAT file again and did the following:
>mv DOOM1_2_FAT.compressed DOOM1_2_FAT.tar.Z.
>zcat DOOM1_2_FAT.tar.Z | tar xvf -
This worked just fine for me. No, you don't need 3.1 to run DOOM, it runs
just dandy on 3.0 Jim Burns had suggested that it may have been a problem
in downloading, but since I no longer had the original file that I
downloaded, I can neither confirm or refute this. My gut instinct (for
whatever that's worth) tells me that the problem has something with doing
a WS uncompress on the .compressed file.
Thanks to everone that responded, especially ray@mayo.edu who was the
first to recommend the above solution.
-Dave
ddp@cc.bellcore.com
(BTW the zcat above is essentially the same as:
>uncompress DOOM1_2_FAT.tar.Z
>tar xvf DOOM1_2_FAT.tar
except that my method above retains the .Z file.)
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From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne)
Subject: getting CDPlayer.app to work?
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.171353.19496@cs.yale.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale Physics Department
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 17:13:53 GMT
I know this was discussed months ago, but I've lost the posts, and it's not
in the FAQs (or at least the information there is not the full story
according to Nathan Janette). How do you make CDPlayer.app work?
I've got a NeXTstation Turbo running NS 3.2, with a NeXT CD-ROM drive.
I can put a standard CD into the drive, and CDPlayer.app starts up, reads
the CD correctly, starts playing and so forth. The only problem is no sound
ever comes out.
--
Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu
"With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain."
Friedrich von Schiller
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Sun's pcnfsd compile errors
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 16:04:36 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.160436.28844@cyantic.com>
Has anyone successfully compiled Sun's pcnfsd v.2 on Next 3.2? I have basic
NFS working, but printer sharing requires pcnfsd for proper authentication.
I have just tried to compile the source from PC-NFS 5.0 and it doesn't like
this:
Line 527: static struct sigaction old_action;
Line 528: static struct sigaction new_action;
Line 551: new_action.sa_handler = myhandler;
Line 552: sigemptyset(&(new_action.sa_mask));
Line 553: new_action.sa_flags = 0;
Below are the error messages from gcc.
pcnfsd_misc.c:527: storage size of `old_action' isn't known
pcnfsd_misc.c:528: storage size of `new_action' isn't known
pcnfsd_misc.c: In function `start_watchdog':
pcnfsd_misc.c:551: invalid use of undefined type `struct sigaction'
pcnfsd_misc.c:552: invalid use of undefined type `struct sigaction'
pcnfsd_misc.c:553: invalid use of undefined type `struct sigaction'
pcnfsd_misc.c: At top level:
pcnfsd_misc.c:527: storage size of static var `old_action' isn't known
pcnfsd_misc.c:528: storage size of static var `new_action' isn't known
I'm not an expert in these things so if the answer isn't too difficult,
I'll give it a try.
Please reply by email or post if you think this is of general interest.
--
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From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Adobe font packs still available?
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.001427.19047@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 00:14:27 GMT
In article <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G.
Ng) writes:
* Are Adobe font packages for the Next still available?
The Plus Pack and the Typesets 1, 2, 3 packages are no longer available.
* I'm specifically looking for the pack that contains ITC Avant Garde.
What's current is a package called Adobe Type Basics -- it has
sixty five faces, including the Standard Thirty Five[*], and includes
two of the Tekton faces.
[*] For those unfamiliar with this term, the ``Standard Thirty
Five'' refers to the set of ROM fonts found in most LaserWriters
such as the IINTX, IIf/IIg, Pro630, and so on.
For NEXTSTEP format fonts, we [Trilithon Software] are an authorised
Adobe reseller and supply Adobe fonts for NEXTSTEP.
For Type 1 PostScript fonts for NEXTSTEP:
Write To: Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 325-0767
FAX: (415) 325-0768
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
* Also, is NextConnection still in business? I haven't seen
* their usual ad in the latest edition of NextWorld magazine.
NextConnection as a front have disappeared, but their telephone is
routed to PC connection.
........ Henry
From: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean L. Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: getting CDPlayer.app to work?
Date: 13 Feb 1994 20:06:35 GMT
Organization: Institut de Physiologie, Universite de Lausanne
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Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
Plug in the headphones to the CDPlayer?
Sean
From: nlau@sct.edu (Neric Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sorry message from Neric Lau
Date: 13 Feb 1994 13:43:24 -0500
Organization: Southern College of Technology, Atlanta
Message-ID: <2jlscc$1d2a@st6000.sct.edu>
References: <2jh31u$1htv@st6000.sct.edu>
I am writing a research paper on why Next computer fail on the workstation
market. anyone outthere can send me the information about the good and bad thingon NeXT.
Please send the information to nlau@st6000.sct.edu
Neric Lau
I m sorry if my language is foul and offense any person, I do that cause I hope to attract more attraction. I m also sorry to post my request message on all NeXT group
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From: bud@slip4.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jeff Fields)
Subject: Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black-SOLUTION
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.182402.18115@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Sender: news@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (News)
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
References: <CKz8t9.J0n@walter.bellcore.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 18:24:02 GMT
I fetched DOOM from orst twice. Both copies gave the error described by
Mr. Pascua. I then got a copy from sonata.cc.purdue; works great. My
suggestion: delete your copy, get a new one from sonata. (in
/pub/next/submissions)
In article <CKz8t9.J0n@walter.bellcore.com> ddp@cc.bellcore.com (David D.
Pascua) writes:
>
> So I was all excited to try out this 'way cool' game that everyone's
> been talking about. But when I tried to run it I got an Error pop-up
> window with this message:
> W_GetNumForName:PNAMES not found!
>
> Anyone want to help out this poor DOOM-less NeXT fan out?
>
> Specifics:
> NeXTColor Station
> NS 3.0
>
> -Dave
> ddp@cc.bellcore.com
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Most efficient news reader, nn, tin ?
Date: 13 Feb 1994 19:13:01 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2jlu3t$to@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <CL557C.Hwx@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> <2jkuo0$1lg@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2jlhtt$1ph@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>I agree that threading is a must. But tin has a much, much nicer interface
>than trn. Also, see if you can access a NNTP server that provides indices --
>otherwise, you need to index the groups locally, which is very slow
>and chews up disk space.
>--
>Ross Cutler
>University of Maryland, College Park
>Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Say what? yes true about NNTP but I don't use it like that.
For all of those non-thread comfortable people. Try pressing '=' in
trn's thread selector sometime.
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From: bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Aha, NewsGrazer Pro!
Date: 12 Feb 1994 08:45:24 +0100
Organization: Digital Island
Message-ID: <2ji1ek$1sp@drdhh.hanse.de>
References: <1994Feb4.190435.873@millennium.com> <1994Feb7.140409.10787@hot.com>
Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes:
No wonder why Jayson has been posting lately. Look at the headers...
Posting-Application: Newsgrazer Pro
Well, as far as I have seen, they make very fine software.
I am also thankful to Jayson that he gave us Newsgrazer Std,
even if I don't use it - I am religious about nn.
But - is this really necessary ?
I think that News-Headers should be there to serve either
machines or readers. This one serves only Millennium.
Not that I care too much about these ~40 bytes of bandwidth,
it is just that it seems too unimportant to be there.
If I am wrong and this is a standard header now, please excuse me,
I'm on RFC1036 but don't have it at hand right now.
Greetings, Bjoern
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From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Cross Referencing in NewsGrazer 75.0?
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.185648.6501@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 18:56:48 GMT
According to the "Revision History" in NewsGrazer 75.0, the following
bugs have been fixed:
* Writes out cleaner .newsrc file
* Handles cross referenced articles
* Better sorting of articles with same subject
What is meant by "handles cross referenced articles"? I was hoping
that it would mark cross referenced articles as read but that doesn't
seem to be the case.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cross Referencing in NewsGrazer 75.0?
Date: 13 Feb 1994 21:14:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jm574$p8u@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <1994Feb13.185648.6501@hot.com>
In article <1994Feb13.185648.6501@hot.com> Robert La Ferla
<Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes:
> According to the "Revision History" in NewsGrazer 75.0, the following
> bugs have been fixed:
>
> * Writes out cleaner .newsrc file
> * Handles cross referenced articles
> * Better sorting of articles with same subject
>
> What is meant by "handles cross referenced articles"? I was hoping
> that it would mark cross referenced articles as read but that doesn't
> seem to be the case.
>
I'm using NG75 for the first time and just noticed that after reading
an article in c.s.n.software, when I changed to c.s.n.misc, the same
article had been marked as read (maybe this was a special case because the
article was about NewsGrazer :-)
The key *may* be to have your preferences set to record read articles
just after they've been read rather than later.
---
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From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adding dictionaries to Edit?
Date: 13 Feb 1994 22:07:05 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jm8a9INN9il@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
I want to be able to add a dictionary to the spellchecker in Edit.
I tried to place another file in the .Next/dictionaries directory, but it
didn't seem to work even after I logged out and in.
Then I tried to add a few words to the end of the English file in
the .Next/dictionaries directory to see if the spellchecker picked them
up, but it didn't. I did quit Edit and start it back up, but I didn't log
out and in.
I assume that the commerical word processors like the one from AFS
(where is that?) will have this functionality. Does Edit? The pop-up
menu in the Spelling panel implies that it would. But then the modes
window in the Preferences panel implies that you can modify it, but you
can't.
Any hints on this? All are greatly appreciated.
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From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: autolaunching CDPlayer.app - NOT an FAQ
Date: 13 Feb 1994 22:15:09 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jm8pdINN9n8@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
I posted here a few days ago asking for advice about autolaunching
CDPlayer.app, but I have not gotten any response. Someone posted the
following info regarding this. They said
>This should definitely be in the FAQ. If I am correct,
>three things are needed:
>
>1) root ownership and suid bit on
> /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.util
>2) root ownership and suid bit on
> /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer
>3) public window server enabled in Preferences->Unix
>
We have made sure that these requirements are met, but we still
get the disk ejecting rather than playing. Are these requirements
correct? This is for an Intel machine (DEC, I believe) and running NS3.2.
I was a big part in convincing a friend to purchase two NS machines for
his lab and I want to make sure that he gets everything going. Please
offer advice. All comments are greatly appreciated.
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From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software for non-NeXT(black) approved modems?
Date: 13 Feb 1994 22:17:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jm8tc$6a7@agate.berkeley.edu>
I have a CompletePC 14.4 data/fax modem connected to my 25 mghz 040 cube
with a Macintosh cable connected to the A port.
Right now I just use Kermit for data transfers, but I'm curious about
software that would allow me to dial in at 14.4, and fax documents.
I'm operating under system 3.0 and have 8 megs RAM.
Please reply to me at: cooncat@gershwin.mills.edu
Thanks in advance!
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jessica L. Mosher
Mills College
Oakland, CA USA
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cross Referencing in NewsGrazer 75.0?
Date: 13 Feb 1994 22:34:41 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2jm9u1$ntn@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Feb13.185648.6501@hot.com>
Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes
> According to the "Revision History" in NewsGrazer 75.0, the
> following bugs have been fixed:
>
> * Writes out cleaner .newsrc file
> * Handles cross referenced articles
> * Better sorting of articles with same subject
>
> What is meant by "handles cross referenced articles"? I was
> hoping that it would mark cross referenced articles as read but
> that doesn't seem to be the case.
That's what it seems to mean at my site.
Ciao, Stefano
---
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Aha, NewsGrazer Pro!
Date: 13 Feb 1994 20:25:32 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2jm2bs$1hp@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Feb4.190435.873@millennium.com> <1994Feb7.140409.10787@hot.com> <2ji1ek$1sp@drdhh.hanse.de>
bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews) wrote in comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
>If I am wrong and this is a standard header now, please excuse me,
>I'm on RFC1036 but don't have it at hand right now.
Don't worry I picked up that immediately and set jayson right on
custom headers. He's going to use X- notation as per 822 I think.
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From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson)
Subject: MPEG
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.233906.9480@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 94 23:39:06 GMT
Is there an MPEG player for NSi? If so -- what is an approx. framte-
rate on a 486DX2/66 machine w/ 256K CPU cache, 16mb RAM, 2mb Wingine board,
and SCSI HD?
bp
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!
Date: 12 Feb 1994 19:54:02 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2jj8ka$1lk@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2jbm4k$li3@zip.eecs.umich.edu> <2jbveg$mq6@inxs.concert.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes:
>In article <2jbm4k$li3@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan
><roland@gomidas.mi.org> writes:
>> Just kidding!
>>
>> Seriously, does anyone know when this will be a reality?
>>
>I have heard from a FEW a Frame that a Frame 3.0 fat version is in the
^^^
They are porting software from yesterday?
Frame for NS is really becomes a soap opera.
Regards,
Markus.
--
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
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From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille)
Subject: Re: Cross Referencing in NewsGrazer 75.0?
Message-ID: <1994Feb14.003242.22196@ictv.com>
Sender: usenet@ictv.com
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
References: <2jm9u1$ntn@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 00:32:42 GMT
So where do I get 75.0?
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MPEG
Message-ID: <2jmhqc$p2l@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 14 Feb 94 00:49:16 GMT
References: <1994Feb13.233906.9480@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Stanford University
Blake Patterson writes
> Is there an MPEG player for NSi?
Check out Movie.app on the archives.
Ciao, Stefano
---
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!
Date: 14 Feb 1994 01:48:37 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jml9l$ik7@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2jj8ka$1lk@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
In article <2jj8ka$1lk@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus
Wenzel) writes:
^^^
> They are porting software from yesterday?
> Frame for NS is really becomes a soap opera.
What I stated was that Frame was porting 3.0 over to Intel until the 4.0
version can be ported to NeXTSTEP.
Dave
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From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Software for non-NeXT(black) approved modems?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 02:25:52 GMT
Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jmnfg$1ch@yarrina.connect.com.au>
References: <2jm8tc$6a7@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <2jm8tc$6a7@agate.berkeley.edu> cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher)
writes:
> I have a CompletePC 14.4 data/fax modem connected to my 25 mghz 040 cube
> with a Macintosh cable connected to the A port.
> Right now I just use Kermit for data transfers, but I'm curious about
> software that would allow me to dial in at 14.4, and fax documents.
>
NXFax from Black & White Software worked very well for me. Email
nxfax@bandw.com (I think they have a demo version).
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From: oscar@innocent-bystander (Oscar Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where can I find a player for .au + .wav files?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 02:49:04 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2jmor0$kj6@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I've tried various places(sonata, cc.orst.edu) and I haven't had any luck.
Even a translator of some sort would be fine. I've got a lot of these
files but no way to play them.
Thanx
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Date: 14 Feb 94 03:44:44 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.761197484@uiuc.edu>
References: <2jj8ka$1lk@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2jml9l$ik7@inxs.concert.net>
I think NS Frame users who want to use a supported and more advanced
Frame should just give up waiting for it or a work-alike to appear on
NS.
If you can afford to do so, I suggest moving to the Mac or Windows.
There you'll find much better word processing and DTP software
catering to all levels of expertise (including native ports of Frame).
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From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black-SOLUTION
Message-ID: <CL701F.59u@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <1994Feb13.182402.18115@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 02:24:51 GMT
Jeff Fields writes
> I fetched DOOM from orst twice. Both copies gave the error described by
> Mr. Pascua. I then got a copy from sonata.cc.purdue; works great.
did you have ftp in binary mode on cs.orst.edu?
it seems necessary there but not on sonata.
--
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From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I find a player for .au + .wav files?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 04:09:03 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2jmth0$gk7@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <2jmor0$kj6@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
In article <2jmor0$kj6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> on@cco.caltech.edu writes:
>I've tried various places(sonata, cc.orst.edu) and I haven't had any luck.
>Even a translator of some sort would be fine. I've got a lot of these
>files but no way to play them.
Rename the .au files to .snd files. NeXT uses the same format as
Sun---they just changed the name.
--
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From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Adobe font packs still available?
Message-ID: <1994Feb13.235349.21187@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <2jgjpk$rk5@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 23:53:49 GMT
A minor correction to the posting:
In article <2jgjpk$rk5@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Advanced
Business Systems) writes:
* > In article <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
* > georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) writes:
* > Are Adobe font packages for the Next still available?
* > I'm specifically looking for the pack that
* > contains ITC Avant Garde.
* What you are specifically looking for is the Adobe Plus
* Pack which will give you the balance of the typefaces of
* the standard 39 found on Apple's LaserWriter and most other
* PostScript Printers.
Standard 35.
* The Plus Pack is still available through regular distribution
* channels still so most any reseller with five minutes of
* time can order it for you.
Adobe no longer manufacture the Plus Pack and have not done so for
some time. The Plus Pack is not listed in my Merisel Resellers
Handbook. I suspect if the Plus Pack is still available through
the ``regular distribution channels'' it's only because they're
[still] flushing inventory.
As indicated in a previous post on this subject, Adobe Type Basics
package is now the recommended way to obtain the Standard Thirty
Five [plus thirty other faces]. To obtain Adobe fonts for NEXTSTEP:
Write To: Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 325-0767
FAX: (415) 325-0768
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [NXSpice] : Questin on how to plot
Date: 14 Feb 1994 06:39:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2jn6a4$dt3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: NXSpice graph, SPICE for NeXT
Hello,
I've a question for people who use NXSPICE.
How do I plot? I mean, I can't change the independent variable (on the
x-axis). I can only plot volgtage/current vs time, not voltage vs. voltage.
Help appreciated.
Also, is there another version of SPICE besides NXSPICE for NeXTSTEP?
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Message-ID: <westesCL7HqF.EFt@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 08:47:03 GMT
Am I missing something, or does NeXTSTEP completely lack the most
basic of edit controls inside an edit window? I'm so used to the
MS-Windows standards of using the Home, End, Ctrl-Home, Ctrl-End,
ctrl-<right arrow>, ctrl-<left arrow> to maneuver around a file or
line that I really feel crippled now when usint NeXTSTEP to edit
ASCII text. Are there NS equivalents that let you move back and
forth one word at a time when composing mail, for example? How
about deleting one word to the right, or one entire line?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: elporto!kieffer (Robert W. Kieffer)
Subject: Re: DOOM Dummy
Message-ID: <CL6pJD.3Mz@gemstone.com>
Sender: kieffer@gemstone.com (Robert W. Kieffer)
Organization: Gemstone Systems, Inc.
References: <2j9tg4$i49@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 22:38:00 GMT
Alex Currier writes
> In article <2j9nu5$s60@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU
> (Greg Colello) writes:
>
> > Ok. I give up. I'm running DOOM on my color NextStation just fine. I
can
> > move, shoot, pick up stuff. I can't get through any doors. I'm stuck
> > immediately. Is that because it's a limited demo, or because I'm a
dummy?
> > If it's the latter, give the dummy a break, and give him some hints.
>
> Use the 'x' key to open doors. It's in the Info... info.
>
> And while I'm here, I tried the dwrite to get DOOM to run in 2bit but it
> didn't work. Any clues?
>
>
"dwrite Doom NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray"
"dwrite Doom NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray"
or
"dwrite Doom NXWindowDepthLimit TwelveBitRGB"
... Take your pick. Personally, I find the twelve bit version the most
playable on my colorstation.
Robert Kieffer
kieffer@gemstone.com
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Date: 14 Feb 1994 12:52:14 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jns5u$qme@inxs.concert.net>
References: <jeffo.761197484@uiuc.edu>
In article <jeffo.761197484@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
writes:
> I think NS Frame users who want to use a supported and more advanced
> Frame should just give up waiting for it or a work-alike to appear on
> NS.
>
Actually, I was up at their Federal Government offices in DC this past week
where I saw the "pre-beta" release of the Intel port of 3.0 of FrameMaker.
--
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Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Date: 14 Feb 1994 14:15:45 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jo12h$ivf@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <westesCL7HqF.EFt@netcom.com>
In article <westesCL7HqF.EFt@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
> Am I missing something, or does NeXTSTEP completely lack the most
> basic of edit controls inside an edit window? I'm so used to the
> MS-Windows standards of using the Home, End, Ctrl-Home, Ctrl-End,
> ctrl-<right arrow>, ctrl-<left arrow> to maneuver around a file or
> line that I really feel crippled now when usint NeXTSTEP to edit
> ASCII text. Are there NS equivalents that let you move back and
> forth one word at a time when composing mail, for example? How
> about deleting one word to the right, or one entire line?
Most NS applications the emacs commands for moving around text. (Sometimes you
need to enable this option in Preferences.)
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: mickey@mothra.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Network DOOM Error?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 14:33:59 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jo24n$a9q@news.UU.NET>
Whilst trying to run DOOM across the Net, I got a weird error. Has anyone
else encountered difficulty trying it? My link is a PPP connection at 14.4
and I know it will be slow, but I just wanted to try.
It seemed that the two machines were talking to each other, the lights
were going like mad, but then I got the error something like SendPacketError:
No buffer Space available? Anyone got an idea as to what that means?
Also, anyone know if the DOS .wad and the NeXT .wad files are compatible?
=====================================================
Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
=====================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Message-ID: <CL7sxr.601@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <westesCL7HqF.EFt@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 12:49:03 GMT
Will Estes writes
> Are there NS equivalents that let you move back and
> forth one word at a time when composing mail, for example? How
> about deleting one word to the right, or one entire line?
yes there are, but they adopt the emacs key bindings
which have become pretty standard in the Unix world,
as opposed to the MS key bindings that you are probably
used to from the DOS world.
check use emacs key bindings in the preferences for Edit and Mail.
and experiment with the control and alt key.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Date: 14 Feb 1994 14:40:36 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Message-ID: <2jo2h4$n45@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2jj8ka$1lk@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2jml9l$ik7@inxs.concert.net> <jeffo.761197484@uiuc.edu>
In article <jeffo.761197484@uiuc.edu>,
J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jeffo@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>I think NS Frame users who want to use a supported and more advanced
>Frame should just give up waiting for it or a work-alike to appear on
>NS.
IMHO, we should give up supporting Frame who is so reluctant in
supporting NeXT community. While AFS PasteUp is improving and
running, we should support native NeXT apps developer more than other
developer who tends to be eaten by the big MickeyMouse dinosaur.
AFS has promised to ship a version of PasteUp to handle long document
if Frame gives up complete on NS in the EXPO.
Please give support to NeXT native apps developer...
Just my 2 cents
>
>If you can afford to do so, I suggest moving to the Mac or Windows.
>There you'll find much better word processing and DTP software
>catering to all levels of expertise (including native ports of Frame).
>--
>*NO* NeXTmail please
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New NewsGrazer has new features?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 14:44:56 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Message-ID: <2jo2p8$nbc@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2jhkvq$mpf@digifix.digifix.com> <CL3Iyr.v6@dsinc!flash>
In article <CL3Iyr.v6@dsinc!flash>, <tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu> wrote:
>In article <2jhkvq$mpf@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
>Anguish) writes:
>>
>>After verifying that the program is actually there, and FAT, I've been playing
>>with it, and it seems to have a couple of new features.
>>
>>Here's the list of the differences between version 75 and version 72.3.
>>
>>Fixed bugs
>> Writes out cleaner .newsrc file
>> Handles cross referenced articles
>> Better sorting of articles with same subject
>
>However, it has troubles with "Catch Up". If you have a lot of articles to
>catch up on, NewsGrazer dies. Also, selecting all the articles and using the
>"Mark Read" menuitem kills it as well.
I even have troble to unsubscribe/subscribe to newsgroup. <:(
>
>
>- Jon
>--
>Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting
>tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
>
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: ed@sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Why doesn't ghostscript accept my ps-code from NEXTSTEP?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 15:04:41 GMT
Organization: Sogn og Fjordane Ingeniorhogskole
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2jo3u9$g5a@due.uninett.no>
I made a drawing in Diagram, and saved it to a ps-file both
by 'print-save' and 'SaveTo' commands. In both cases,
ghostscript refuse to display the picture on the sceen.
Are there differences between NEXTSTEP ps code and other ps-code
or do I miss some module in ghostscript (actually I'm using
ghostview for windows)
Please send suggestions by email or by an article (if this of general interest)
I goal is to get printer output from my NEXT to a HP LaserJet III printer that
is hooked up on a PC-network (The Next is not on the net)
Thanks in advance
Eystein Dugstad
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: (Pinnacle_Research == Black_Hole)?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 16:08:52 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jo7mk$7jl@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Does anyone know how to get in touch with the most secretive corporation
in North America, Pinnacle Research? I have tried calling the following
numbers:
(602) 529-1135
(602) 327-8949
BOTH have been disconnected.
I have also sent requests for information to info@pri.com, but have
received no reply (althought the mail did not bounce). Does Pinnacle
still exist? If not, is anyone selling VirtSpace for NSI 3.2?
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!
Date: 14 Feb 94 16:06:45 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.761242005@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <2jj8ka$1lk@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2jml9l$ik7@inxs.concert.net>
info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes:
>What I stated was that Frame was porting 3.0 over to Intel until the 4.0
>version can be ported to NeXTSTEP.
If they redeveloped 4.0 for NS correctly from the very beginning, they need not
port anything to Intel or HP-PA or whateveryoulike. It would be only a compiler
switch. IMHO, the approach you described does not make any sense at all.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anyone able to print to a Parallel printer using SoftPC?
Date: 14 Feb 94 16:11:37 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.761242297@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <1994Feb13.165153.18640@news.csuohio.edu>
cowboy@trans (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone with white hardware has been successful,
>attaching a parallel printer to a NeXTSTEP computer and using SoftPC,
>print some simple text through the parallel port to a dot matrix
>printer.
Try out "Filter" in the Printer Preferences panel, configure the printer
driver in Windows and set the filter entry to "cat >/dev/pp0". Sometimes
it worked for me, sometimes the print queue messed up. I did no further
investigations into this.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Cross Referencing in NewsGrazer 75.0?
Message-ID: <CL832H.Ds0@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <1994Feb14.003242.22196@ictv.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 16:27:51 GMT
In article <1994Feb14.003242.22196@ictv.com> robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick
Thille) writes:
>>
>>
>>So where do I get 75.0?
>>
At cs.orst.edu in submissions. 'Tis a good day!
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
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From: nobody@shell.portal.com
Message-ID: <199402141629.IAA06091@jobe.shell.portal.com>
Subject: Introduction to Blacknet
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 08:29:48 -0800
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From: eric@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT color printer vs. FrameMaker
Date: 14 Feb 1994 17:15:21 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2jobj9$17e@tribune.usask.ca>
We've got a couple of NeXTstation color machines on our mostly-Sun network.
People using the Sun machines want to print Frame documents on the
color printer. This works fine for a single-page document, but if they
try to print a multi-page document all they get is a bunch of blank pages,
and then the front page of their document. If they send the same file to
the NeXT laser printer everything works fine.
I thought the problem might be with the document structuring comments in the
postscript, so I tried changing the first line of the file from
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
to
%!
This didn't work -- in fact now *all* the pages come out blank!
The details:
NeXTstation color, NEXTSTEP 3.2, NeXT color printer, NeXT laser printer
Test 1 -- Single page Frame document
Color printer:
Prints page properly
Laser printer:
Prints page properly
Test 2 -- Three-page Frame document
Color printer:
Emits two blank pages then prints first page of document
Test 3 -- Three-page Frame document, with conforming PostScript header removed
Color printer:
Emits three blank pages
Laser printer:
Prints document properly -- first page first.
Any ideas?
--
Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca
Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory
University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Most efficient news reader, nn, tin ?
Message-ID: <1994Feb14.154439.858@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <CL557C.Hwx@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> <2jkuo0$1lg@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 15:44:39 GMT
In article <2jkuo0$1lg@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>>I am using nn. I subscribed 70 groups, and am spending 2 hours for every
>>other days on reading net news, So reading and keeping track of the
>>articles efficiently is far important than a fancy user interface.
>>
>>I think nn is very efficient. If you had experience on more efficient
>>implementation on NeXT, could you please tell me your suggestion ?
>>
>>Mr.WONG Sai Kee
>>Graduate Student
>
>In terms of efficiency (as you have defined it) trn is way more
>efficient. Threading is everything in my opinion. I have no problems
>with the speed of trn on a NeXT either.
>
>--
> "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant)
> "No, what?"
> "Nothing" (Charade, 1963)
> (ASCII for text only messages)
I'll second that. trn works great for me.
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Date: 14 Feb 1994 17:45:55 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
The MAB version of NewsGrazer (v75) seems to continually crash whenever
I hit the CatchUp button, or when I select more than 10 articles and hit
the Mark Read menu item. Is anyone else having this problem? Will jayson
release a fix (I hope)! Or should we just buy NGPro? 8-)
Also, I haven't used Grazer in a while, but didn't there used to be a way
to have the newsgroups show up as folders, allowing you to drag the folder
to a "dock", and access that newgroup by clicking on it's folder? This
newest version of NewsGrazer doesn't seem to have that feature anymore. Or
am I just doing something stupid (yes, I have set the Preferences correctly).
Eric
From: eric@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT color printer vs. FrameMaker
Date: 14 Feb 1994 17:56:23 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2joe07$379@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <2jobj9$17e@tribune.usask.ca>
Sigh -- there should be a 5-day cooling-off period for news postings....
I have figured out a way to make multi-page Frame documents print on the
NeXT color printer -- just select the `Last Page First' on the Frame
print panel.
Why this is necessary for the NeXT color printer and not for the laser printer
remains a mystery to me.
--
Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca
Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory
University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Message-ID: <1994Feb14.174259.15862@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <2jml9l$ik7@inxs.concert.net> <jeffo.761197484@uiuc.edu> <2jo2h4$n45@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 17:42:59 GMT
In article <2jo2h4$n45@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes:
>>In article <jeffo.761197484@uiuc.edu>,
>>J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jeffo@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>>I think NS Frame users who want to use a supported and more advanced
>>>Frame should just give up waiting for it or a work-alike to appear on
>>>NS.
>>
>>IMHO, we should give up supporting Frame who is so reluctant in
>>supporting NeXT community. While AFS PasteUp is improving and
>>running, we should support native NeXT apps developer more than other
>>developer who tends to be eaten by the big MickeyMouse dinosaur.
>>
>>AFS has promised to ship a version of PasteUp to handle long document
>>if Frame gives up complete on NS in the EXPO.
>>
>>Please give support to NeXT native apps developer...
>>
While I agree with the spirit of your post, I disagree on the details. I
bought and use both Frame and PasteUp. They are different programs,and
will continue to be different programs for some time. I write technical
papers (and my PhD thesis) in Frame. I do overheads, or any multi-page
document where I have styles but need to be more freeform (I bought
Concurrence, too, but it's become compress-ware for me) in PasteUp.
I use Frame for several reasons. It's pretty rock solid (I've never had
this version crash on me, been using it for, hmmm, over 2 years?), I can
exchange documents with colleagues, and I can edit on other platforms
(mainly interested in the Mac).
With PasteUp, when the current bugs are fixed (I've seen WriteUp, so I have
faith in Greg & Co.), I'll have a program which will serve the purpose that
PageMaker has for me in the past. Intuitive app for doing slightly
askew, multi page things. ('course, I wrote my 100+ page SMVS thesis
in PageMaker, so I'm a weird case...).
Personally, I'd like to see FrameMaker get back into the NeXTSTEP market and
have the bugs in PasteUp fixed.
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson)
Subject: WriteStp
Message-ID: <1994Feb14.181314.11132@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 18:13:14 GMT
Anyone have any experience with that WP WriteStep?? Is it a good WP
solution? What is the price on that one?
bp
From: Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Date: 14 Feb 1994 18:34:55 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jog8f$7fe@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
yep, newsgrazer 3.0 version 75 crashes whenever you try to catch up a newsgroup
which is not read in completely. as long as you have
article xxxxx
article xxxxy
in a newsgroup you should not catch it up
matthias
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From: wolf@lanl.gov (David R Wolf)
Subject: SUMMARY: Latex and EPS graphics.
Message-ID: <1994Feb14.184214.4816@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 18:42:14 GMT
I received many answers to my question on including EPS graphics in a
LaTeX file:
> I've tried the prescription mentioned in the on-line tex manual for
> including eps files in a latex document with very limited success.
>
> What is the correct way to include eps files (Mathematica, Frame-
> maker, Draw output for examples) into a LaTeX document?
etc.
Here, as promised, is the summary of the replies that I received.
I was amazed by the detail and thought that went into these responses.
Clearly, the internet rules. And what better way to drive there than
on a NeXT?
David
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=======================================================================
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: jliu@apollo-slip.caltech.edu (Jianqiang Liu)
Here is the macro I used to include eps file:
\def \myfigure #1 #2"#3"{\begin{figure}[hbtp]\input epsf
\centerline{\epsfxsize=#1 \epsfbox{#2}} \caption{#3} \end{figure}}
Here is the example to use it.
\myfigure 4.5in fab_process.eps"Major fabrication steps for
the integrated microflow rate measurement system."
4.5in defines the size of the image. fab_process.eps is the eps file name
which should stay in the same directory as you tex file.
You can easily modify the macro to include more functions.
You should have epsf.tex or epsf.sty in you /usr/lib/tex/input or
somewhere for default tex input.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: Rick Gray <rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu>
It's easy... save your document as EPS, but just the selected objects
(otherwise it'll put out a full-page figure, which will mess you up
when trying to include it elsewhere). Then in your LaTeX doc:
\documentstyle[epsf]{article}
\begin{document}
Since individual channels undergo both opening and closing transitions
($\alpha$ and $\beta$), according to rule 6, $\tau = \frac{1}{\alpha +
\beta}$.
\begin{figure}
\epsfxsize=90mm %this will scale the fig to 90mm wide
\epsffile{scanD/currenttau10a5a.eps}
\caption{This is a cool figure.}
\end{figure}
\end{document}
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: Waihon A Kwong <wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
First of all, you have to generate EPS files for the latex documents.
Then,
use the 'epsf.sty' utility in latex to include the files.
I have put together a style file to simplify this process. Here is it.
Look
at the introduction for help if necessary.
Andy
-------------cut <~/tex/inputs/graphics.sty>
%&latex%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
% graphics.sty
%
% This style file can add any postscript (PS) file or EPS files with
% automatic scale for any column size. Figure rotation abilities are
% also implemented and so you can just turn everything around. You are
% welcome to made any changes, and feel free to distribute it! If you
% found any bugs or have some interesting new feature, please let me know
% by E-mail:
% wkwong@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
%
% Andrew Kwong
% Updated 10 Feb, 1994.
%
% NOTE: This style file assume you have 'epsf.sty' and 'rotate.sty'
% installed in standard '.../tex/inputs/' directory.
%
% KNOWN BUG:
% If you try to include PS files from Matlab 4.x, make sure you save
% the ps file with '-deps' option, or it will not be included
% correctly.
%
% A partial fix is to add one more '%' in front of the
% '%%BoundingBox: (attend)' statement.
%
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
% DESCRIPTION - HOW TO USE
%
% The definitions should be straight forward to use.
% Here is an example to show how to include PS/EPS figures into LaTeX:
%
% (0) Save this file into your '~/tex/inputs' directory.
% (1) Insert 'graphics.sty' in the style statement at the beginning
% '\documentstyle[times,graphics]{mythesis}'
% (2) Use anyone of the followings:
%________________________________________________________________________
% (a) \scalefig.....Scale a figure from 0-100%(use 0-1 scale but it could
% be >1 I guess)
% (b) \scalefignc...Same as above without Caption.
% (c) \autofig......Scale a figure from 0-100% and allow the argument
% '{htb}' at the end to control where the figure is.
% (d) \autofignc....Same as above without Caption.
% (e) \rotrfig......Rotate a figure to the right 90 degrees (not the
caption)
% (f) \rotlfig......Rotate a figure to the left 90 degrees (not the
caption)
% (g) \rotufig......Flip a figure upside down (not the caption)
% (h) \rotffig......Flip the side of the figure horizontally (not the
caption)
% ****Note that (e)-(h) will also scale the figure.
% (i) \rotrcfig.....Rotate a figure to the right 90 deg (with the caption)
% (j) \rotlcfig.....Rotate a figure to the left 90 deg (with the caption)
% (k) \rotucfig.....Flip a figure upside down (with the caption)
% (l) \rotfcfig.....Flip the side of a figure horizontally (with the
caption)
% ****Note that (i)-(l) will also scale the figure,
% while (i),(j) have a bug on not having the figure
% centered corresponding to the Caption. Try to
scale
% the figure big enough so that the figure is
% centering with the caption.
% (m) \tabfig.......Scale a figure from 0-100% for tabular environment
% (n) \tabrfig......Scale/Rotate a figure from 0-100% for tabular
environment
% (o) \tablfig......Scale/Rotate a figure from 0-100% for tabular
environment
% (p) \tabufig......Scale/Rotate a figure from 0-100% for tabular
environment
% (q) \tabffig......Scale/Rotate a figure from 0-100% for tabular
environment
% (for help on (m)-(q), see ##).
%_______________________________________________________________________
% (3) To insert a figure, use the following format:
% \scalefig{/home......../tex/...../....file.ps}<-+
% {A Pretty Picture}{.75} |
% ^__75% of the original |
% |
% *Unless you put your PS file into your ~/tex/inputs directory,
% or you always give the complete path and file name.
%
% **An alternative (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) solution will be create
% a new directory under where your document is, and save all
% your figures there.
% EX: My thesis is in ~/tex/thesis.
% Then I create a directory ~/tex/thesis/thesisFig.
% So, I can use the command:
% '\scalefig{thesisFig/...file.ps}{0.75}'
% ---->THIS IS MUCH EASIER THAN THE COMPLETE PATH!
%
% ##For tabfig, here is an example (I usually use the first figure
file
% name for the figure label) I scale it according to the number of
% columns in a tabular environment:
% \begin{figure}[htb]
% \begin{tabular}{c}
% \tabfig{fig/fig1.ps}{1.0} \\ (a)
% \end{tabular}
% \begin{tabular}{cc}
% \tabrfig{fig/fig2a.ps}{0.5} &
% \tablfig{fig/fig2b.ps}{0.5} \\ (b) & (c)
% \end{tabular}
% \caption{(a) Plot of 1,
% (b) Plot of 2a, and (c) Plot of 2b \label{fig/fig1.ps}}
% \end{figure}
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
\typeout{Style Option 'graphics' <10 Feb 1994> by Andrew Kwong}
\input epsf
\input rotate
\newsavebox{\ROTATEFIG}
\newsavebox{\ROTATECAP}
% Auto scale PS files without Caption
\def\scalefignc#1#2{
\begin{figure}[htb]
\centering
\epsfxsize=#2\columnwidth
\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}
\label{#1}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale PS files with Caption
\def\scalefig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[htb]
\centering
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}
\caption{#2\label{#1}}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale PS files with specific placement from {htbp} but no Caption
\def\autofig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[#3]
\centering
\epsfxsize=#2\columnwidth
\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}
\label{#1}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale PS files with specific placement from {htbp} and Caption
\def\autofig#1#2#3#4{
\begin{figure}[#4]
\centering
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}
\caption{#2\label{#1}}
\end{figure}}
%Auto scale with Rotation Right
\def\rotrfig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[h]
\centering
\begin{tabular}{c}
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotr{\ROTATEFIG}
\\
\vbox{\caption{#2\label{#1}}}
\end{tabular}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale with Rotation Left
\def\rotlfig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[h]
\centering
\begin{tabular}{c}
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotl{\ROTATEFIG}
\\
\vbox{\caption{#2\label{#1}}}
\end{tabular}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale with Flip Up
\def\rotufig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[h]
\centering
\begin{tabular}{c}
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotu{\ROTATEFIG}
\\
\vbox{\caption{#2\label{#1}}}
\end{tabular}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale with Flip Side
\def\rotffig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[h]
\centering
\begin{tabular}{c}
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotf{\ROTATEFIG}
\\
\vbox{\caption{#2\label{#1}}}
\end{tabular}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale with Rotation Right (with the caption also rotated)
\def\rotrcfig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[htb]
\centering
\begin{tabular}{cc}
\savebox{\ROTATECAP}{\vbox{\caption{#2\label{#1}}}}
\rotr{\ROTATECAP}
&
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotr{\ROTATEFIG}
\end{tabular}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale with Rotation Left (with the caption also rotated)
\def\rotlcfig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[htb]
\centering
\begin{tabular}{cc}
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotl{\ROTATEFIG}
&
\savebox{\ROTATECAP}{\vbox{\caption{#2\label{#1}}}}
\rotl{\ROTATECAP}
\end{tabular}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale with Flip Up (with the caption also flipped)
\def\rotucfig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[htb]
\centering
\begin{tabular}{c}
\savebox{\ROTATECAP}{\vbox{\caption{#2\label{#1}}}}
\rotu{\ROTATECAP}
\\
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotu{\ROTATEFIG}
\end{tabular}
\end{figure}}
% Auto scale with Flip Sides (with the caption also flipped)
\def\rotfcfig#1#2#3{
\begin{figure}[htb]
\centering
\begin{tabular}{c}
\epsfxsize=#3\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotf{\ROTATEFIG}
\\
\savebox{\ROTATECAP}{\vbox{\caption{#2\label{#1}}}}
\rotf{\ROTATECAP}
\end{tabular}
\end{figure}}
% Autoscale for Tabular environment
\def\tabfig#1#2{
\epsfxsize=#2\columnwidth
\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
% Autoscale and Rotate Right for Tabular environment
\def\tabrfig#1#2{
\epsfxsize=#2\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotr{\ROTATEFIG}}
% Autoscale and Rotate Left for Tabular environment
\def\tablfig#1#2{
\epsfxsize=#2\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotl{\ROTATEFIG}}
% Autoscale and Upside down for Tabular environment
\def\tabufig#1#2{
\epsfxsize=#2\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotu{\ROTATEFIG}}
% Autoscale and Flip side for Tabular environment
\def\tabffig#1#2{
\epsfxsize=#2\columnwidth
\savebox{\ROTATEFIG}{\leavevmode\epsfbox{#1}}
\rotf{\ROTATEFIG}}
% allow a top float to take up the whole page if necessary
\renewcommand{\topfraction}{1.0}
% allow a bottom float to take up the whole page if necessary
\renewcommand{\bottomfraction}{1.0}
% allows a page to have as little as 20% text and up to 80% floats
\renewcommand{\textfraction}{.20}
% allows a page to have as little as 25% floats and up to 75% blank
\renewcommand{\floatpagefraction}{.20}
% max number of top floats allowed per page
\setcounter{topnumber}{8}
% max number of bottom floats allowed per page
\setcounter{bottomnumber}{8}
% max total number of floats allowed per page
\setcounter{totalnumber}{20}
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: Moritz Willers <willers@butp.unibe.ch>
This should work:
\documentstyle[epsf]{article}
\begin{document}
Here comes the eps file:
\input epsf
\epsfxsize=8cm
\epsfbox{filename.eps}
That's it
\end{document}
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: Steve Spicklemire <steve@estel.uindy.edu>
Here is a sample .tex file that I use for exams & such
\input epsf.tex
\headline={\hfil}
\baselineskip=12pt
\smallskip
\epsfxsize=100pt % this sets the horizontal extent of the image
\epsffile{ exam1.eps } % this includes the image
\vskip -100pt % this skips back up vertically
\leftskip=120pt % this re-sets the left margin
5) An exit ramp for I-465 has a radius ... (bunch 'o text)
\vskip 30pt % skip back down
\leftskip = 0pt % reset left margin to zero.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: garyc@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
I got the same problems before like you do, so I guess I can
understand
this kind of pain best. :-) Here's the LaTeX Macro I use to display my EPS
pict.
%%Begin InstantTeX Picture
\let\picnaturalsize=N
\def\picsize{3.0in}
\def\picfilename{??.eps}
\begin{figure}[htb]
\global\let\epsfloaded=Y
\centerline{ \ifx\picnaturalsize N\epsfxsize \picsize\fi
\epsfbox{\picfilename}}
\caption{YourCaption}
\label{YourLabel}
\end{figure}
%%End InstantTeX Picture
Hope this will help, and don't forget the 'epsf' sty need to be
declared in your document cmd. e.g.
\documentstyle[titlepage,epsf]{article}
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: antoine@osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Just get on archie, ask where psfig is, and go get it. I works great and
comes with an example with many figs. you may need bbfig too to add
bounding boxes to your figs.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: lauer@euwe.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer)
I always use the epsf style. The style file itself contains the
documentationn.
For a quick start, just try (assuming epsf.sty is correctly installed):
\documentstyle[epsf]{article}
\begin{document}
\epsffile{your-picture.eps}
\end{document}
The epsf style reads the size of the image from the eps-file. Just make
sure it is really eps and not just one page of plain postscript (it has
to contain a %%Boundingbox comment). It is possible to scale the image.
This, as well as how to position the image in the TeX output, is
documented
in the style file.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: leb@label.tau.ac.il (Larry Blume)
Hi
You probably know that .eps files coming from Mathematica need to be
worked on with psfix to add the ps dictionary that Mathematica takes for
granted. However, once you've done this, the Mathematica selection you've
printed takes a whole page. In order for any flavor of TeX to handle the
image reasonably you need to shrink the bounding box. You can do it by
hand. Alternatively, there is an app called BBFig available on the
archives which (usually) does it for you. It pops the page onto a screen
and shows you what it thinks is the minimal bounding box that captures
just the image. You can either press a button and have the bounding box
coordinates added to the top of your eps file or, if BBFig has guessed
wrong, you can easily measure by hand what it should be and add that to
your file. (The newer versions allow you to drag the bounding box to the
right dimension --- since I am one of about 5 NeXT's in Israel, my
migration from 2.1 to 3.2 will begin only after I return to the States.)
I'm not a LaTeX user so I can't tell you where to go from there. In plain
TeX the epsf macros work just fine.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: "Steven M. Boker" <smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu>
Here's what I use:
{\parindent 0pt
\begin{center}
\begin{singlespace}
\epsfxsize=.9\textwidth
\leavevmode\epsffile{ChiSqrPlot3.eps} \\
\refstepcounter{figurecount} \label{ChiSqrPlot3}
{\small \sf Figure~\thefigurecount. ChiSqrPlot3. }
\end{singlespace}
\end{center}
}
Of course your documentstyle must include epsf.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Date: 14 Feb 1994 18:41:49 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jogld$2o6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Eric M Hermanson writes
> The MAB version of NewsGrazer (v75) seems to continually crash
> whenever I hit the CatchUp button, or when I select more than 10
> articles and hit the Mark Read menu item. Is anyone else having
> this problem?
Ditto here.
Ciao, Stefano
---
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu (Bill Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: duplicating audio dat tapes
Date: 14 Feb 1994 17:04:46 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <2joave$akf@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>
I'm wondering whether the black dat drive scsi'd into my cube can be used
to copy audio dat tapes. Have you ever tried this or heard of it being
done?
Where would I find some software to do this?
thanks,
Bill Richardson
blacksburg va
From: bora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black-SOLUTION
Date: 14 Feb 1994 18:46:37 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2jogud$527@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
References: <1994Feb13.182402.18115@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> <CL701F.59u@genoa.com>
In article <CL701F.59u@genoa.com>, alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
>
> did you have ftp in binary mode on cs.orst.edu?
> it seems necessary there but not on sonata.
Cause cs.orst.edu is running Linux which required an x86 processor and
sonata is a NeXT which is 68000 based... has to do with the bits being
flipped around from platform to platform. If you are ftpying from
the same platform to the same platform you do not need to set the binary
mode thought it could never hurt.
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From: lachance@scheme.cs.ubc.ca (Daniel LaChance)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I find a player for .au + .wav files?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 19:31:36 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jojio$nqo@cs.ubc.ca>
References: <2jmor0$kj6@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Oscar Nelson writes
> I've tried various places(sonata, cc.orst.edu) and I haven't had any
luck.
> Even a translator of some sort would be fine. I've got a lot of these
> files but no way to play them.
>
> Thanx
From the README:
What's GISO? GISO provides an easy way to convert sounds to and from
different sound formats and also preview NEXTSTEP sounds.
GISO is actually just a wrapper for sox.
What's sox? Sox is a filter program with the ability to convert in and
out of many (all that I know of) sound formats. It will move in and out
of .au, .aiff, .voc, .hcom, .wav and any raw format you can describe
with its parameters. Its interface is very complicated and so that is
why I wrote GISO.
To build it just type "make install".
*** Version 3.2: (1/29/94)
- Compiles without errors under NS3.2 black/white.
- Responds to double click of .iff another self describing
format.
- interface clean ups.
*** Version 3.0:
- Compiles without errors under NS3.0
- Responds to double click of self describing sound file
formats.
- i.e. responds to .snd, .au, .voc, .wav
*** Version 2.1:
- Newest version of sox used. New sox handles .wav files
cleanly and has some new filters (See man page).
- Uses Subprocess Object now to run sox in (Subprocess was
originally a NeXT example that has been touched up some).
This means
- No more spining disk during conversions.
- Conversions can be aborted.
- Small interface clean ups.
\n
Ronin Consulting
Nicholas W. Christopher Nick_Christopher@gun.com
*** End README
Cheers,
--
Daniel LaChance
Department of Computer Science,
University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada
Vancouver NeXT Users Society (VNUS) Membership Administrator
e-mail: lachance@scheme.cs.ubc.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!
Message-ID: <2jok63$44o@inxs.concert.net>
Date: 14 Feb 94 19:41:55 GMT
References: <next2.761242005@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
In article <next2.761242005@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> If they redeveloped 4.0 for NS correctly from the very beginning, they need
not port anything to Intel or HP-PA or whateveryoulike. It would be only a
compiler switch. IMHO, the approach you described does not make any sense at
all.
Exactly my point they haven't done any work on Frame 4.0 for NeXTSTEP which is
why they're porting 3.0 to Intel first (so of something to tide us over).
Dave
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Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 14 Feb 1994 14:45:33 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2jokct$gqf@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
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The ftp sites
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ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: js@balu (Juergen Sell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I find a player for .au + .wav files?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 20:53:54 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems
Message-ID: <2jood2$r03@vampir.hnv.icem.de>
References: <2jmor0$kj6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <2jmth0$gk7@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Get sox and the front-end GISO from your favourite ftp-site.
It handles about any sound-format.
Cheers, Juergen
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_ _ Juergen Sell E-Mail juergen.sell@icem.de
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,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
(_| BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
From: js@balu (Juergen Sell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pronouncer app for webster dict
Date: 14 Feb 1994 21:00:14 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems
Message-ID: <2jooou$r03@vampir.hnv.icem.de>
Hi,
is there an application out there already which is able to 'say' words
written in the 'sound' syntax as used by webster?
Like in for horse : \'hoG(e)rs\ <- sorry, this was a copy&paste from rtf -(
Juergen
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' | (_ Icem Systems ( NeXTMail welcome )
,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
(_| BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
From: js@balu (Juergen Sell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dictionary German-English Wanted
Date: 14 Feb 1994 21:02:45 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems
Message-ID: <2jootl$r03@vampir.hnv.icem.de>
Subject says it all :
Is there a dictionary application for german-english ?
Thanks, Juergen
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,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
(_| BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
Subject: Re: HELP: latex and eps
Message-ID: <26ZLBQ5S@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <1994Feb11.200431.27577@newshost.lanl.gov>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 19:48:25 GMT
Get psfig from your nearest TeX site.
Psfig enables you to place eps and ps files in your
latex document. You can scale, rotate and do some other fancy things
with it.
And I also recommend TeXmenu - a shareware product which
is a great tool, which makes NeXT the best platform for TeX
in my opinion.
It should be available at cs.orst.edu and is available at
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
I've written several documents containing between 1 up to >100
eps documents (pasted from Mathematica, Diagram, AI, own progs)
and have just great results.
Meinrad
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Foehrenweg 1
D-37077 Goettingen
Tel.: +49-551-300095
Email: mzeller@gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Message-ID: <1994Feb14.202330.10414@millennium.com>
Keywords: Noonan! Noonan!
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
Posting-Application: Newsgrazer Pro
References: <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 20:23:30 GMT
In article <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, Eric M Hermanson writes:
> The MAB version of NewsGrazer (v75) seems to continually crash whenever
> I hit the CatchUp button, or when I select more than 10 articles and hit
> the Mark Read menu item. Is anyone else having this problem? Will jayson
> release a fix (I hope)!
I have nothing at all to do with NewsGrazer, especially not v75. NeXT has
committed itself to supporting the app, so you should look to them for
fixes and new features.
__jayson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: loTeX
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Feb14152833@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 20:28:33 GMT
There is a TeX tool running on NeXT machines called loTeX. It
was written by Derek Beatty. I just don't know where to find it.
Thank you for your help,
Francois Magnan
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** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca **
** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal **
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From: bg@la.async.vt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Don' t play DOOM! :-)
Date: 14 Feb 1994 23:38:20 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2jp21c$807@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Don't play the demo version of the DOOM! :-)
You will be pissed off after getting at the final stage.
SO I deleted and I decided not to buy the shareware version.
ID might have thought I would buy after being pissed off, but I decided
not to instead. :-)
Hey, I am not gonna give you any clue how to get there. :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Problem with Opener.app
Message-ID: <CL8prv.6q1@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 00:38:19 GMT
I've been having a problem with Opener.app the last couple of
days and was wondering if anybody else has had the same problem
and knows a solution.
Whenever I click on something that requires Opener.app, any .tar.Z
file, for instance, the cursor sits and spins for about a minute
and then my machine beeps at me. Then, until I reboot, the system
is very slow, and I can't click on anything in the file viewer (well,
I can click on it, but the cursor sits and spins) or
"open" anything from the terminal.
Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks much - Jon
--
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Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
From: Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Doom
Date: 15 Feb 1994 02:49:21 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jpd7h$gqm@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Keywords: games
Subject: Doom
Doom 1_2 is now functional on the NeXTs at 611 Church Street.
Look for it in the NeXT_Archive directory MiNUGApps/Games
--
Copyright 1994 Charles M. Dudley Charles.Dudley@umich.edu
NEXTSTEP User 313.308.3792
P. O. Box 130231 Ann Arbor, MI 48113
NeXTmail to: warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
"The One True President of the Michigan NeXTSTEP Users Group."
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Date: 15 Feb 1994 03:52:28 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jpgts$m4p@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <2jo2h4$n45@news.iastate.edu>
> IMHO, we should give up supporting Frame who is so reluctant in
> supporting NeXT community. While AFS PasteUp is improving and
> running, we should support native NeXT apps developer more than other
> developer who tends to be eaten by the big MickeyMouse dinosaur.
There's great meaning to that.
> AFS has promised to ship a version of PasteUp to handle long document
> if Frame gives up complete on NS in the EXPO.
I purchased PasteUp, but it kept crashing on me, so I got frustrated.
I use Frame for everything not only because of its functionality but also
because I have associates who work on other Unix platforms, and, as you all
know, it is SO convenient for me to blast them a FrameMaker document and know
that it will open straight away on their workstation. If PasteUp could provide
import/export from/to FrameMIF files, that would be a fantastically powerful
and wonderful thing!
Roland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bud@slip4.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jeff Fields)
Subject: Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black-SOLUTION
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.040438.19816@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Sender: news@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (News)
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
References: <CL701F.59u@genoa.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 04:04:38 GMT
Yes, I used binary mode on both sites. I'm convinced that there is
something wrong with orst's copy.
In article <CL701F.59u@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> Jeff Fields writes
> > I fetched DOOM from orst twice. Both copies gave the error described
by
> > Mr. Pascua. I then got a copy from sonata.cc.purdue; works great.
>
> did you have ftp in binary mode on cs.orst.edu?
> it seems necessary there but not on sonata.
> --
> Alex Blakemore
> alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong)
Subject: gdbmAdaptor MAB ?
Message-ID: <1994Feb14.183629.333@wicket.fdn.org>
Sender: news@wicket.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Paris -France
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 18:36:29 GMT
Well,
I m looking for the gdbmAdaptor in MAB.
I have found a version but the files are not in FAT.
Thanks
FReD
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Frederic Pralong Paris France
NeXT mail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Erik Dasque
Subject: Re: Where can I find a player for .au + .wav files?
Message-ID: <1994Feb14.201843.3514@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
References: <2jmth0$gk7@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 20:18:43 GMT
In article <2jmth0$gk7@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) writes:
> In article <2jmor0$kj6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> on@cco.caltech.edu writes:
> >I've tried various places(sonata, cc.orst.edu) and I haven't had any
luck.
> >Even a translator of some sort would be fine. I've got a lot of these
> >files but no way to play them.
>
> Rename the .au files to .snd files. NeXT uses the same format as
> Sun---they just changed the name.
>
>
> --
> Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
> voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
> fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
What about .wav ? I have a 'Prisonner' .wav file which I would love to be
able to play. Right now, it just wastes space on my HD.
Ed.
--
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"The question is : Will Dallas make it to a third Superbowl"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wcsmh@superior.carleton.ca (Mark Henry)
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Research?
Message-ID: <CL94H1.Gr0@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
References: <2jb6c4$op2@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 05:55:49 GMT
In article <2jb6c4$op2@netnews.upenn.edu>,
Joe Panico <joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for the tele # of Pinnalce REsearch (designers of Virtspace).
>The phone number listed in third party products guide has been disconnected,
>and our network nameserver cannot find an address for pri.com.
>
>Joe Panico
>joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
>
A quick check of pri.com via nslookup reveals:
{superior:4} nslookup
Default Server: alfred.ccs.carleton.CA
Address: 134.117.1.1
> set query=mx
> pri.com
Server: alfred.ccs.carleton.CA
Address: 134.117.1.1
pri.com preference = 10, mail exchanger = nova.unix.portal.com
nova.unix.portal.com inet address = 156.151.254.3
nova.unix.portal.com inet address = 156.151.1.101
>
Mail is alive and well.
You're right about the phone though. We're looking into it.
In the meantime, try: (519) 746-0380
Best regards,
Mark Henry, Pinnacle 'Black Hole?' Research
mhenry@pri.com
From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Gnu Emacs ver 19..22?
Date: 14 Feb 1994 21:52:48 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO
Message-ID: <2jorrg$pls@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
Does anyone know of a NeXTStep App for Emacs 19.22?
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________________________________
G. Hussain Chinoy
hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (G. H. Chinoy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: recommentation for fingerd/finger replacement?
Date: 15 Feb 1994 04:49:24 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO
Message-ID: <2jpk8k$6d3@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
I was wondering what people would recommend to replace NeXT's standard
fingerd/finger?
email replies accepted.
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________________________________
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Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab
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From: christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu (Christopher R. Douty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Don' t play DOOM! :-)
Date: 15 Feb 1994 08:07:06 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2jpvra$9h3@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
References: <2jp21c$807@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: dork dweeb numbfuck
In article <2jp21c$807@solaris.cc.vt.edu> bg@la.async.vt.edu writes:
> Don't play the demo version of the DOOM! :-)
> You will be pissed off after getting at the final stage.
> SO I deleted and I decided not to buy the shareware version.
> ID might have thought I would buy after being pissed off, but I decided
> not to instead. :-)
>
> Hey, I am not gonna give you any clue how to get there. :-)
> --
> %
> % Under construction............
> %
> %
Oooooo!
You're so amusing, and I completely and utterly trust your opinion on what
software to buy. In fact I think that I'll delete Doom off my NDcube, my
suitmate's PC, and then I'll break into multiple ftp servers and remove it
there too, just because you are upset that you died even though you were using
God mode in wimp level.
Get a fucking life. I don't need your pathetic clues, as I beat DOOM in
Ultra-Violence mode the first time I played it. Anyone with any _balls_ can do
it. The ending is the same in ALL versions, you dork. I imagine that ID is
just as happy not to have you purchase their fine software, as they are about
you being hit by a bus.
Cheerio,
--
Christopher Douty
christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu | MIME and | "I ask you, which government
Christopher_Douty@hmc.edu | NeXTmail OK | is more threat to liberty,
----------------------------------------------+ the weak, severely limited
government of 1789, or the mega-state of today that takes 40 to 50 percent
of our income, has minions as numerous as the stars in the heavens and
From: yakov937@crow.csrv.uidaho.edu (YAKOVAC STONY DARREL )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: doom problems
Date: 15 Feb 1994 06:44:08 GMT
Organization: University of Idaho, Moscow, Idaho
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jpqvoINNa62@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu>
I recently tried to load DOOM on a friend's 386. It gave me a cannot
load lin_exe error. Could anyone give me some advice?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Stony Yakovac
From: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean L. Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: Don' t play DOOM! :-)
Date: 15 Feb 1994 11:05:29 GMT
Organization: Institut de Physiologie, Universite de Lausanne
Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8561]
Message-ID: <2jqa9p$2vh@cisun2000.unil.ch>
References: <2jp21c$807@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
<2jpvra$9h3@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
[Christopher R. Douty writes harsh stuff...]
First of all let's move this to alt.games.doom. There's plenty of this
ridiculous name-calling and lambasting over there.
Then take a look at the original post. He loaded it so full of
smileys,
that he had to be joking.
Let's leave c.s.n.software out of it.
Sean L. Hill
Institut de Physiologie / Universite de Lausanne
Rue du Bugnon, 7
CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND
E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch NEXTMAIL: hill@iisnext1.unil.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.111203.7623@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994Feb14.202330.10414@millennium.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 11:12:03 GMT
In article <1994Feb14.202330.10414@millennium.com> Jayson Adams writes:
> In article <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, Eric M Hermanson
writes:
> > The MAB version of NewsGrazer (v75) seems to continually crash
whenever
> > I hit the CatchUp button, or when I select more than 10 articles and
hit
> > the Mark Read menu item. Is anyone else having this problem? Will
jayson
> > release a fix (I hope)!
>
> I have nothing at all to do with NewsGrazer, especially not v75. NeXT
has
> committed itself to supporting the app, so you should look to them for
> fixes and new features.
75 crashes a whole lot more for me, and that is just when reading a group,
not with Catch up.
However, the Info panel still says: "This is not a supported application
(NeXT or otherwise)", and to quote the c.s.n.announce post: "This version
supports both Intel and Motorola platforms and is unsupported."
There seems to be some conflict between Jayson's views and those of NeXT.
Interesting, though.
Paul
--
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From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Re: Cross Referencing in NewsGrazer 75.0?
Message-ID: <CL9FFx.AAz@roscom.com>
Sender: monty@roscom.com (Monty Solomon)
Organization: Roscom
References: <1994Feb13.185648.6501@hot.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 09:52:45 GMT
In article <1994Feb13.185648.6501@hot.com> Robert La Ferla
<Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes:
> What is meant by "handles cross referenced articles"? I was hoping
> that it would mark cross referenced articles as read but that doesn't
> seem to be the case.
It appears to work only if you get your news from a nntp server.
--
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA 01701-0405
# monty@roscom.com
From: cader@tosh.cas.american.edu (Masud Cader)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Sybase admin front end
Date: 15 Feb 1994 13:14:43 GMT
Organization: The American University Computing Center
Message-ID: <2jqhs3$h6s@paladin.american.edu>
Keywords: sybase
NeXT Netters,
Where can I find the new{?} (other than original upgrade
distribution with 2.1) graphical front-end to sybase?
Thanks.
---Masud.
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosaic 2.2 for Cub'X!
Date: 15 Feb 1994 12:33:41 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb15123342@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
Well, I couldn't stand it any longer...this morning I finally sat down
and forced Mosaic 2.2 to work with Cub'X in 16 bit mode, that's right
kids, FAST speed, great colour and it looks amazing.
I'd like to thank the lovely folks at Cub'X who gave me some numbers
to insert in the HTMLimages.c file, and probably the NCSA people who
cleaned up the inline image stuff.
I will be posting the binary in a .gz format in a few minutes to
cs.orst and src.doc.ic.ac.uk (closer to me)...basically, the changes,
for those of you who care are as follows:
Change TrueColor to StaticColor in libhtml stuff and anywhere else you
find it.
Change some values in HTMLimages.c to ones I have, make the same changes
to src/picread.c.
Modify src/pixmaps.c to use 4 8 and 12 instad of 1 6 and 11 for displaying,
this just basically means it gets the right colour mappings for xpms, such
as its own icon...
that's basically it...then sit and wait a few hours while it compiles.
YUM.
Scott
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From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Problems with Opener.app - revisited
Message-ID: <CL9rG4.DMn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 14:12:03 GMT
It occurred to me that my previous post regarding problems with
Opener.app was a little terse.
Again, basically the problem I'm having is that my machine runs
fine until I double click on either Opener.app, or something that
wants to run Opener - e.g., a .tar.Z file. Once I click on any
such file, I basically get no response from the file viewer when
I click on anything - no response, that is, except my cursor sits
and spins for about a minute and then beeps before coming back.
I get no messages anywhere when the system finally beeps. Very
unsettling.
Some further info:
This problem sprang up at roughly the time that I installed
NewsGrazer 75.0 and DOOM. Not that I believe either one is the
culprit, but, well.....
Also, my configuration is as follows:
Opener.app - v. 3.1.1
NeXTSTEP - v. 3.0
Opener is installed under /LocalApps, and I am trying to launch
it as a non-root (of course :) user.
I've got a monochrome 25Mhz station, with an internal 100M and
2 external drives - 1Gig and 200MB, 32M ram.
Any thoughts you might have would be much appreciated.
--
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Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
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From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson)
Subject: 3D Landscaping
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.144334.11297@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 14:43:34 GMT
Is there a 3D landscaping program for NSI in the public domain??
Fractal 3D models, etc. Thanks.
b
p
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Date: 15 Feb 1994 17:20:03 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jr083$4j6@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2jo2h4$n45@news.iastate.edu> <2jpgts$m4p@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
In article <2jpgts$m4p@zip.eecs.umich.edu>,
Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> wrote:
>> IMHO, we should give up supporting Frame who is so reluctant in
>> supporting NeXT community. While AFS PasteUp is improving and
>> running, we should support native NeXT apps developer more than other
>> developer who tends to be eaten by the big MickeyMouse dinosaur.
>
>There's great meaning to that.
>
>> AFS has promised to ship a version of PasteUp to handle long document
>> if Frame gives up complete on NS in the EXPO.
>
>I purchased PasteUp, but it kept crashing on me, so I got frustrated.
Mine hasn't got into any problem yet. I know that some people always
crash with PasteUp and some people don't. This is strange... AFS!!!
Fix it!!!
>I use Frame for everything not only because of its functionality but
>also because I have associates who work on other Unix platforms, and,
>as you all know, it is SO convenient for me to blast them a
>FrameMaker document and know that it will open straight away on their
This might be the only reason why people use FrameMaker which is not
completely NeXT like (I don't know this, poeple said it. >:)) Anyway,
this is a big advantage of FrameMaker. I wonder what Frame would do
after Mickey$oft makes every one use Word for Unix later.
>workstation. If PasteUp could provide import/export from/to FrameMIF
>files, that would be a fantastically powerful and wonderful thing!
Yeah!!! AFS, did you hear that? We want filter.
>Roland
--
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chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: rhodes@rhodes.es.vt.edu (Tim Rhodes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Doom on black h/w
Date: 15 Feb 1994 18:58:52 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <2jr61c$5l6@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Can the mouse control movement in Doom running on black hardware. The Info...
text does not indicate that is won't, but it's not working for me.
Also I recall months earlier some posts about a util to strip the unneeded
portion of a FAT binary. Anyone recall?
--
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Sr Systems Engineer RHODES@VTVM1.CC.VT.Edu
Virginia Tech RHODES@VTVM1.BITNET
From: pvinson@gryphon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MAB version of Cassandra?
Date: 15 Feb 94 10:52:15
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, Michigan, U.S.A.
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <pvinson.94Feb15105215@gryphon>
References: <CL4IuL.3I7@crash.cts.com> <CL4J9u.3zu@crash.cts.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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>Opps, asked too soon. I see the source is available on cs.orst.edu.
>"Never mind"... :-/
Hey, if you're going to compile that, for Intel 3.2, could you send me a copy of the compiled app? I used to use it on my NS Color but I don't have the Development version of 3.2FIP.
You could either NeXTMail it to me or maybe post it to the archive?
Any help appreciated.
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From: kevin@pompei.com (Kevin Pompei)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Message-ID: <CL9vn5.zz@darwin.uucp>
Sender: kevin@darwin.uucp (Kevin Pompei)
Organization: Z
References: <2jogld$2o6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 15:42:41 GMT
In article <2jogld$2o6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@leland.stanford.edu
(Stefano Pagiola) writes:
> Eric M Hermanson writes
> > The MAB version of NewsGrazer (v75) seems to continually crash
> > whenever I hit the CatchUp button, or when I select more than 10
> > articles and hit the Mark Read menu item. Is anyone else having
> > this problem?
>
> Ditto here.
>
> Ciao, Stefano
My version is working fine. I havn't had a single crash using it.
Kevin Pompei
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Date: 15 Feb 1994 20:01:01 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2jr9lt$htl@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CL9vn5.zz@darwin.uucp>
Kevin Pompei writes
> (Stefano Pagiola) writes:
> > Eric M Hermanson writes
> > > The MAB version of NewsGrazer (v75) seems to continually crash
> > > whenever I hit the CatchUp button, or when I select more than
> > > 10 articles and hit the Mark Read menu item. Is anyone else
> > > having this problem?
> >
> > Ditto here.
>
> My version is working fine. I havn't had a single crash using it.
Apparently the problem is in trying to Catch Up a group which hasn't
been read in completely, ie when some of the articles are still
listed as "article xxxx" rather than by subject line. I haven't had
a single crash since learning of this and waiting to use the Catch Up
button, even on groups with 1000+ unread items (then again, all that
waiting can be annoying).
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: fitz@nextone.lanl.gov (Joe Fitzgerald)
Subject: problem with calendar -
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.194654.2203@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: calendar mail 3.2
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 19:46:54 GMT
I get the following error message (NS/FIP 3.2):
nextone> calendar -
/usr/bin/calendar: syntax error at line 1: `^' unexpected
although the simple 'calendar' command works properly. Has anyone
corrected this problem?
--
Joe Fitzgerald
Space and Atmospheric Sciences Group
MS D466
Los Alamos National Lab
Los Alamos, NM 87545
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Subject: Re: Pronouncer app for webster dict
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.153341.165113@embl-heidelberg.de>
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Date: 15 Feb 94 15:33:40 +0100
References: <2jooou$r03@vampir.hnv.icem.de>
In article <2jooou$r03@vampir.hnv.icem.de> writes:
> Hi,
>
> is there an application out there already which is able to 'say' words
> written in the 'sound' syntax as used by webster?
> Like in for horse : \'hoG(e)rs\ <- sorry, this was a copy&paste from rtf -(
>
> Juergen
> --
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> ' | (_ Icem Systems ( NeXTMail welcome )
> ,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
> (_| BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
Jaap! There are still a lot of bugs, but I hope to finish the port till the end
of the month. After 2 or 3 weeks you can try to get it from our ftp site
ftp.embl-heidelberg.de (/pup/sci-tools/...somewhere) or wait for an announce in
c.s.n.ann
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387534
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
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From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.191349.11514@millennium.com>
Keywords: Ask a friend what this means: "Ohwah tafoo liam"
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
Posting-Application: Newsgrazer Pro
References: <1994Feb14.202330.10414@millennium.com> <1994Feb15.111203.7623@seer.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 19:13:49 GMT
In article <1994Feb15.111203.7623@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul Lynch writes:
> In article <1994Feb14.202330.10414@millennium.com> Jayson Adams writes:
> > ....NeXT has
> > committed itself to supporting the app, so you should look to them for
> > fixes and new features.
>
> However, the Info panel still says: "This is not a supported application
> (NeXT or otherwise)", and to quote the c.s.n.announce post: "This version
> supports both Intel and Motorola platforms and is unsupported."
>
> There seems to be some conflict between Jayson's views and those of NeXT.
> Interesting, though.
Well, what I see is NeXT releasing a version for Intel (which, btw, implies their
commitment to NewsGrazer running on future architectures), fixing bugs and adding
features. I also know that if NewsGrazer had a serious bug (I'm mean more
serious than the bugs it has right now, like randomly destroying files in your
home folder for example), NeXT would fix it and release a new version.
Disclaimer or no, this sure sounds like a supported app to me. So again, you
should look to NeXT for bug fixes and new features.
__jayson
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: (Pinnacle_Research == Black_Hole)?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2jo7mk$7jl@netnews.upenn.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 12:10:51 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.121051.5596@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Joe Panico (joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know how to get in touch with the most secretive corporation
> in North America, Pinnacle Research? I have tried calling the following
> numbers:
> (602) 529-1135
> (602) 327-8949
Hmm. Try sending a fax: (602)529-0117...
The president is (was?) Ralph Zazula, btw.
Gerhard.
PS: If you should find out the working numbers/address, could you please post
or meil 'em to me, as I want to keep my NeXT phone book up to date for our
users...
--
+---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+
N Gerhard Moeller, Hetzg. 32/11, A-1030 Wien (Austria) [*: 02/21/1968] N
e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <westesCL7HqF.EFt@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 12:17:15 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.121715.5659@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote:
> Am I missing something, or does NeXTSTEP completely lack the most
> basic of edit controls inside an edit window? I'm so used to the
> MS-Windows standards of using the Home, End, Ctrl-Home, Ctrl-End,
Try use the UNIX "standards" of emacs:
Control-B Moves back one character
Control-F Moves forward one character
Alternate-b Moves back one word
Alternate-f Moves forward one word
Control-A Moves to beginning of line
Control-E Moves to end of line
Control-D Deletes next character
Control-H Deletes previous character
Alternate-d Deletes to end of current (or next) word
Alternate-h Deletes to beginning of current (or previous) word
Control-K Deletes forward to end of line
Alternate-< Moves to beginning of text
Alternate-> Moves to end of text
Control-N Moves down one line
Control-P Moves up one line
To use them, you have to switch to the developer mode, restart Edit,
then toggle on the "emacs key bindings". Have fun,
Gerhard.
PS: You should get used to the emacs bindings, as they are really much
more common in the UNIX world. Many editors and even some shells
support those.
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e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +43-1-7151531 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: We still need NewsGrazer Pro Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Date: 15 Feb 1994 16:31:12 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jrev0$kj@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <1994Feb15.191349.11514@millennium.com>
Jayson Adams writes
> In article <1994Feb15.111203.7623@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul Lynch writes:
> > In article <1994Feb14.202330.10414@millennium.com> Jayson Adams writes:
> > > ....NeXT has
> > > committed itself to supporting the app, so you should look to them for
> > > fixes and new features.
> >
> > However, the Info panel still says: "This is not a supported application
> > (NeXT or otherwise)", and to quote the c.s.n.announce post: "This version
> > supports both Intel and Motorola platforms and is unsupported."
> >
> > There seems to be some conflict between Jayson's views and those of NeXT.
> > Interesting, though.
>
> Well, what I see is NeXT releasing a version for Intel (which, btw, implies
their
> commitment to NewsGrazer running on future architectures), fixing bugs and
adding
> features. I also know that if NewsGrazer had a serious bug (I'm mean more
> serious than the bugs it has right now, like randomly destroying files in
your
> home folder for example), NeXT would fix it and release a new version.
> Disclaimer or no, this sure sounds like a supported app to me. So again, you
> should look to NeXT for bug fixes and new features.
OK, the problem here is that someone mistakenly attributed the current
NewsGrazer changes to Jayson, when infact Jayson has been working on a
commercial version of NG. This was released by Next, not Jayson.
Obviously NG 75 is nothing like what NGPro promises, and I think at
this point Millenium and Jayson could use a little re-assurance from us, the
community, that there is a market for NewsGrazer Pro.
Even with NewsGrazer 75, we STILL need a newsreader that has more
'backing' behind it, alot of us have been benifiting from Jaysons skunkworks
Newsreader for a long time. I think its about time we gave a little something
back to him.
--
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From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Shawn Stone read this
Date: 15 Feb 1994 21:49:30 GMT
Organization: This Space for Rent.
Message-ID: <2jrg1a$f8c@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Shawn Stone, I sent mail to address in your email and it bounced. Please
send me another address? Here's the address you gave me:
petra!sas@decster.uta.edu
Thanks
--
mallen@nwu.edu
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347
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From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert)
Subject: Re: Dictionary German-English Wanted
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.205120.2464@charon.muc.de>
Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de
Organization: Peter Eybert
References: <2jootl$r03@vampir.hnv.icem.de>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 20:51:20 GMT
Juergen Sell writes
> Subject says it all :
> Is there a dictionary application for german-english ?
And, vice versa, for english-german ?
Greetings,
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____________________________________________________________
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Appenzellerstr. 123 Tel: +49-89-7593734
81475 Muenchen (NeXTMail welcome)
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From: icardena@dcl-nextsc (Ian Patrick Cardenas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Summary -- Re: pls help -- can't run DOOM on black
Date: 16 Feb 1994 00:21:15 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2jrotr$fm3@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <BURNS.94Feb11125039@wildcat.bellcore.com> <CL68x2.ADs@walter.bellcore.com>
>So I downloaded the FAT file again and did the following:
>>mv DOOM1_2_FAT.compressed DOOM1_2_FAT.tar.Z.
>>zcat DOOM1_2_FAT.tar.Z | tar xvf -
Uhhhh. Am I to assume that .compressed is equivalent to a .tar.Z
in all cases? I was just checking because I had not come across this
before. Thanx for your help.
-Ian
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From: dac@engc.bu.edu (David Castanon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fortran f2c help
Date: 16 Feb 1994 00:23:23 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <2jrp1r$5d6@news.bu.edu>
I am looking for a shell script to compile Fortran programs using the
ATT f2c translator. ATT provides a shell script fc, but it requires
a getopt procedure which I don't have (Motorola running 2.1), plus
additional tailoring beyond my knowledge of scripting language.
If you have a copy of such a script available on your NeXT, or
know where I may access one on the net, please send me e-mail to:
David Castanon
dac@bu.edu
Many thanks!
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MAB NewsGrazer Available
Message-ID: <CLAM1n.5rp@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: 16 Feb 94 01:08:53 GMT
References: <MCGLK.94Feb12134446@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
In article <MCGLK.94Feb12134446@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) writes:
> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes:
>
> | For all those who claim NeXT is unresponsive:
> |
> | > From: bryce_jasmer@NeXT.COM (Bryce Jasmer)
> | > Subject: SUBMISSION: MAB NewsGrazer Available Via The Net
> | > Date: 11 Feb 1994 22:56:19 -0500
> | [...]
>
> After *how* long? That's not exactly what I'd call "responsiveness." Maybe
> "finally giving in."
How much do you pay??? Nothing?? Then shut up, or put up.
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: ucb.net.home-ip,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [NeXT] NewsGrazer Problem
Date: 10 Feb 1994 01:47:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ucb
Message-ID: <2jc3ml$8em@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: How to save newsrc?
Hi,
I'm running NewsGrazer to read news through the SLIP connection.
My problem is that NewsGrazer takes a "long" time to scan through
all the articles, and does not marked articles as read after I read
them. How can I :
1. Unsubscribe newsgroup I don't read.
2. Have NewsGrazer remember the articles that I've read.
Help appreciated. Thanks.
--
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Email : tyf@ucsee.eecs or tyf@soda + .berkley.edu
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here is tutoring for the Chem 3 series. But I sup
From: william@moomin.berkeley.edu (William E. Grosso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MAB NewsGrazer Available
Date: 16 Feb 1994 02:34:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2js0ni$3fh@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <CLAM1n.5rp@news.cis.umn.edu>
In article <CLAM1n.5rp@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
>
> How much do you pay??? Nothing?? Then shut up, or put up.
>
The above was unnecessary, rude, and (imho) irrelevant.
Save it for the Crispin flamewars (coming soon to an
advocacy group near you).
Or better yet, just save it.
Bill Grosso
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: We still need NewsGrazer Pro (was: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!)
Date: 15 Feb 1994 23:49:39 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jrn2j$63q@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2jrev0$kj@digifix.digifix.com>
sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes:
> OK, the problem here is that someone mistakenly attributed
> the current NewsGrazer changes to Jayson, when infact Jayson has
> been working on a commercial version of NG. This was released by
> Next, not Jayson.
The confusion comes because the info panel in the new version
mentions no one but Jayson. The info panel in the previous
version had two faces smiling at us.
> Obviously NG 75 is nothing like what NGPro promises, and I think at
> this point Millenium and Jayson could use a little re-assurance from
> us, the community, that there is a market for NewsGrazer Pro.
I think the NeXTSTEP community has the need for some freebee (or at
least very cheap) newsreader like the current NewsGrazer. The NG-Pro
sounds interesting enough that I intend to buy it, but I suspect
it's price will be more than many people will want to pay for "just"
a newsreader program. Me, I get a lot of information via usenet,
so I can justify spending the money for a souped-up and supported
version.
NG 75 is clearly not getting much in the way of NeXT backing. A few
things have been tweaked, but mainly it's just recompiled for another
platform. I think the community benefits from both a "basic" NG, and
from a more modern offering. I can imagine MIME support being done
for NG Pro (if not now, then eventually), but I doubt NeXT will ever
put that much effort into the old NewsGrazer. And I'm sure that
Jayson intends NG Pro to have many other features that will not show
up in the original version.
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu (Cem Unsal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDPlayer.app problem
Date: 16 Feb 1994 03:06:29 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <2js2jl$j3f@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Hi there;
I have a problem with CDPlayer application. Applications starts with an error
message "Can't find CD-ROM drive". At the same time the following error
messages are given on the console:
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 3
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 4
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
Since the disk is not inserted yet, I (am) insert(ing) the disk and... console
gives me:
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64
SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label)
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64
SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label)
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64
SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label)
DISK UNFORMATTED
Disk is Write Protected
probing for CDROM
probing for DOS
probing for mac
probing for cdaudio
Feb 15 22:02:10 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio
cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer
And disk ejects...
I've used CDPlayer hundreds of times without any problem. What's now? BTW, I
was able to play my disks using "root" ID.)
Any ideas out there? Some music in the middle of the night at the office would
be nice!
CEM UNSAL
unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu (NeXTmail OK)
"Adesso che ho perso la vista, ci vedo meglio di piu."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Message-ID: <1994Feb16.034849.3619@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
References: <2jj8ka$1lk@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2jml9l$ik7@inxs.concert.net> <jeffo.761197484@uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 03:48:49 GMT
In article <jeffo.761197484@uiuc.edu>,
J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jeffo@uiuc.edu> wrote:
> I think NS Frame users who want to use a supported and more advanced
> Frame should just give up waiting for it or a work-alike to appear on
> NS.
>
> If you can afford to do so, I suggest moving to the Mac or Windows.
> There you'll find much better word processing and DTP software
> catering to all levels of expertise (including native ports of Frame).
I think those who *have* given up should move on to other newsgroups.
Hey, we know what you think...enough already. Correcting errors is one
thing, but your constant gloom and doom is getting really tiresome
about NOW. Try some constructive criticism for a refreshing change.
Shrink-wrap word-processing apps are not the forte of NeXTSTEP right
now. But I'll join Glenn Reid in the farming business before I'll go
back to procedural programming. Remember, some solutions require
custom code -- and NeXTSTEP is just the ticket. Most reports
concerning the SUN/NeXT relationship have been encouraging as well.
NeXTSTEP has some life yet. I think Frame would warm up to the idea
of killing 3 or more platforms with an OpenStep port -- especially
when OpenStep becomes part of Solaris.
Follow-ups to advocacy.
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: SLIP Commander <??>
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.232716.59657@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 23:27:16 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: slip
*HELP!*
I remember a product by the name of Slip commander. Seems like there was just an announcement on it. I want to buy it as I am putting my machine on the net. Could anyone be so kind as to give me the companies name and number.
And PLEASE don't hit reply, you have to send mail to me via tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com or tgall@online.apple.com.
THANKS!
Tom
--
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tgall@online.apple.com (home -- Newton Mail OK!)
_________________________________________________________________________
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Date: 16 Feb 94 06:37:50 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.761380670@uiuc.edu>
References: <2jo2h4$n45@news.iastate.edu> <2jpgts$m4p@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Roland Telfeyan writes:
>If PasteUp could provide import/export from/to FrameMIF files, that
>would be a fantastically powerful and wonderful thing!
I asked about this way back when and I was told the proverbial NS app
excuse about how Frame users weren't the target market. Never mind
how PasteUp (the alleged Quark-killer at that time) wasn't able to
load nor save Quark files (and PasteUp file format was in no position
to be adopted by any large audience for any standard), use Quark
extension modules or do all the functions Quark could do either.
Oh well....we'll see what comes of PasteUp when AFS does some work on
it.
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Date: 16 Feb 94 06:49:13 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.761381353@uiuc.edu>
References: <2jr083$4j6@news.iastate.edu> <1994Feb15.194502.49822@yuma>
Dave Randall writes:
>the filter would have to handle frame equations and frame graphics.
>both would have to be editable. that's a tall order.
And Frame's tables, linking to other files and keeping track of
Frame's books and variables would be nice too.
It's a very tall order, but it's what DTP programs of this kind have
to compete with. As everyone's programs come out, the best raise the
stakes for everyone else. With luck, the consumer can look forward to
continually rising capabilities and interoperability (as a way product
developers have to get you to go over to their software).
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: We still need NewsGrazer Pro
Date: 16 Feb 1994 07:27:49 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jshtl$kdd@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <1994Feb15.191349.11514@millennium.com> <2jrev0$kj@digifix.digifix.com>
I am glad to see a *MAB NewsGrazer* FREE by NeXT.
And knows there will be a commercial version called *NewsGrazer Pro*
by Janson
( If I am wrong, please correct me )
why?
Remember the good old things like *Touch* or *NewsGrazer*?
Till the NeXTSTEP/FIP show up, I have the chance to get my *OWN* machine.
I am happy and disappointed.
I get my OWN, but I loss the good old things.
There are three Apps I often use them in my friend's workstation before:
Opener: almost all you knows and have the FAT binaries
Touch: get in *touch* with school's Sun account and other ...
But have problem (cann't logout) with NS 3.1
NewsGrazer: *FAT binaries NOW*
If once they becmoe commercial, they will have more oppornity to reserve.
If you want the Bug-Free --- *buy* it
Why Taiwan NeXT User Group try to induce third party to release *one*
FREE Chinese Postscript Font?
We hope ANYBODY can use Chinese in your system if you need, but it is *not*
Bug-Free now for some Tech. reason.
There are more than thirty styles of fonts, if you need it --- buy it ...
I think NeXT Inc. should make an announce to tell NeXT users about the
different license of the two Apps.
Or, We will not have the chance to see the other good Apps from NeXT.
( Since maybe the Developer in NeXT will protect himself from happening
the same thing in Janson )
Some of them are *BEST* ( not just better )
As a User Grouper memember, I do not need to say anything but Demo
the three Apps to my friends. Some of them are not good at computer
but they find it useful, very easy to use and very interesting.
Say nothing of the things like InstantTeX or the other.
THANKS for Jayson and those developers of the good Apps whatever
it's free or commercial ...
I never post such an article ( just answer some question in Net ) because
of my poor English, but I will not excuse myself if I do not write it.
Sorry for wasting your time and the mistake because of my poor English.
Mark
TwNUG ( Taiwan NeXT User Group )
PS: for some reason, my machine is not available in Net now, please
Email to this account with non-NeXTmail
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC question: Quicken/Windows or Quicken/DOS?
Date: 16 Feb 1994 04:22:32 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2js728$gp4@usenet.rpi.edu>
Say someone wants to run Quicken under SoftPC on a NS/Intel machine.
They know they want Quicken (that part isn't up for debate), the
question is which Quicken will run better under SoftPC? The version
for DOS or the version for Windows?
Anyone out there with experience running Quicken under SoftPC?
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOOM...how to save game?
Message-ID: <1994Feb15.091131.10700@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 15 Feb 94 09:11:31 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
How do I save a game? I can see what function keys are needed for the DOS
version...how do I "simulate" these keys on my black box, or my white box for
that matter?
GREAT game!
S.C.
slxn8@cc.usu.edu
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM...how to save game?
Date: 16 Feb 1994 14:51:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2jtbto$2r2@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Feb15.091131.10700@cc.usu.edu>
slxn8@cc.usu.edu writes
% How do I save a game? I can see what function keys are needed for the DOS
% version...how do I "simulate" these keys on my black box, or my white box for
% that matter?
%
% GREAT game!
% S.C.
% slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Press Esc will bring you from the game mode to the command mode.
Save while in the command mode, press Esc again to return to the game
mode.
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Email : tyf@ucsee.eecs or tyf@soda + .berkeley.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Touch app
Message-ID: <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
Organization: University of Oulu
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 19:03:26 GMT
Anybody know of an application called Touch? By my understanding,
it uses FTP to simulate NFS, so you can effectively mount any
filesystem to which you have FTP access. I think the version I saw
was an unsupported beta written by someone at NeXT. Anyone know if
there's a production version or if source code's available (and
where)?
--
Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O
Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) |
The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland)
Subject: Re: Differences of C binary data format on Black and White
Message-ID: <CLA6J7.IG0@agedwards.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 19:37:54 GMT
References: <2jc851$1on@news.scri.fsu.edu>
Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc.
Dru Nelson (dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu) wrote:
: The reason the two programs can't mix platforms (white/black) is due
: to the 'endianess' of the processors. Intel is little endian. So
: your data would be read in backwards (per word or longword).
This is not the only place this happens. I believe that the same
problem occurred btw. the HP[34]00 series and the HP[678]00 series.
Actually, maybe not.
Either way, use of NXTypedStreams will make your life easier and
will yield proper and expected results on all platforms on which
NS runs.
-cj
--
==============================================================================
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| BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Could someone tweak Eyecon...
Date: 16 Feb 1994 20:46:26 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2ju0n2$fvv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I like having annoying little eyeballs follow my mouse around the
screen on my X account, so I've played with Eyecon on my NeXT. It's
nice, but I've got a couple... suggestions for it.
1) I really wish the eyes could be ovals rather than circles and fill
up the whole icon block. I have my eyes enlarged like that in X, and
I really prefer it that way.
2) It would be nice to update it for 3.x so that the shaded app tile
would show through instead of a flat gray background.
3) A set of sleeping eyes that looked more like they matched the
"awake" eyes would be nice, but that's the least of my concerns.
4) Color? Maybe?
I'd do this myself, but I really don't know enough about NS
programming yet, especially about the DPS code used to draw the eyes.
If anyone out there feels like tinkering with a tiny toy and would be
willing to make these changes, I'd be really, really grateful ;-)
Just more incoherent babbling from my keyboard,
Joe
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wolf@lanl.gov (David R Wolf)
Subject: HELP : How to set up a Group Email service
Message-ID: <1994Feb16.212817.7953@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: email group address and forwarding
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 21:28:17 GMT
What I want to do is this:
A bunch of dudes want to be able to mail to one address - say
my machine "harpo@grouchy.gov" and have the email forwarded to a
particular list of people - the bunch.
Everyone in the bunch should be able to do this, and no-one but the
guy who sets up the service (me) should have to keep track of who is
on the forwarding list.
What's the best way?
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=======================================================================
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=======================================================================
From: kay@nagasena.muc.de (Kay Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TCL/TK
Date: 16 Feb 1994 17:19:15 GMT
Organization: Firestone Chaotic Group
Message-ID: <2jtkij$468@nagasena.muc.de>
Keywords: TEST
Hi
I compiled tcl/tk on my own on a NSFIP 3.2
Everything went well. Then I said make test and got some strange results.
I mailed the results to Mr. Ousterhoud and he said the following:
I looked over the error messages, and almost all of them look like they're
due to improper conformance to ANSI specs in your system's C library
procedures such as sscanf, sprintf, and strtol. Most likely these
problems
won't affect any actual Tcl scripts, but you might report them to the
company that provides your system software (you didn't say what your
configuration is) so that they can eventually get fixed.
There is one kind of error that I cannot understand:
==== expr-32.8 math functions in expressions
==== Contents of test case:
expr exp(1.0)
==== Test generated error:
unknown math function "xp"
*********** Isn't this dangerous???? ******************
I can't figure out what's happening here. All I can guess is that the
"e" is getting interpreted as a real number by your system's strtod
procedure. I've never seen this reported by anyone else, so it seems
likely that it's a problem with some of the C library procedures on
your system.
Does anybody know what happens? Is he right? Did I use the right
compilerflags? I don't want to download the MAB files from cs.orst.edu,
because my bill......
--
Kay Schulz
kay@nagasena.muc.de
NeXTmail accepted
From: Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Inquiry
Date: 17 Feb 1994 00:23:10 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2judde$nd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I want to touch base with you briefly to see what kinds of shrinkwrap
applications your customers are asking for or need. Developer Relations is starting to map out our strategies to recruit new developers and the best chance we have for success is to recruit developers of applications our customers want. Ideally I'd like to know who the cu
stomer is and what they would be interested in, but I'll take the information any way I can get it.
I've already touched base with the SCs and have gotten some great feedback from Abbott, CFC, FNBC, and Apollo Derivatives Group. Any other feedback you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
for Developer Relations,
Sara Benson@next.com
P.S.: Send all recommendations to sara.benson@next.com.
--
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NEXTSTEP User 313.308.3792
P. O. Box 130231 Ann Arbor, MI 48113
NeXTmail to: warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
"The One True President of the Michigan NeXTSTEP Users Group."
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any good CD software for NeXT (black)?
Date: 16 Feb 1994 18:23:46 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2judei$88n@tamsun.tamu.edu>
As there any NeXT specific CDROM software out there that's worth buying?
Does the NeXT CDROM drive read Mac and/or DOS CDs?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can one import .eps files into Diagram, Illustrator or Virtuoso?
Message-ID: <CLB7qs.E2B@dei.unipd.it>
From: itaca@ada.dei.unipd.it (Renon Davide)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 09:01:38 GMT
Sender: usenet@dei.unipd.it
References: <2j8kaq$ceo@news.iastate.edu> <CKxCHJ.2A2@dvorak.amd.com>
Organization: B.B.B - Universita' di Padova, Italia
I search for a program to convert an image into fractal form!
Can anyone mail me?
itava@maya.dei.unipd.it
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU (David W. Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tipx for the NeXT
Message-ID: <139420@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 17 Feb 94 01:19:34 GMT
Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
I have a problem trying to get the program 'tipx' to run on my NeXT
('40 cube, system release 2.1, hayes modem). Every time I try to do
a Zmodem transfer, I get the 'tiprz' window with the file name, but
it immediately crashes with 'sh: Floating exception'. I though previously
that it was a bad compile of the source code I picked up somewhere, but
I just downloaded the binaries from cs.orst.edu, and it's doing the
same thing.
Any suggestions? Is there another program that I can use to do zmodem
transfers via the unix prompt?
Thanks,
--
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Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Co-Op: CSX Transportation. Jax, FL 32202
Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Message-ID: <CLAGMA.1CL@rkt.in-berlin.de>
Sender: news@rkt.in-berlin.de (News System)
Organization: Home in Berlin
References: <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 23:15:46 GMT
In article <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> The MAB version of NewsGrazer (v75) seems to continually crash whenever
> I hit the CatchUp button, or when I select more than 10 articles and hit
> the Mark Read menu item. Is anyone else having this problem? Will
jayson
> release a fix (I hope)! Or should we just buy NGPro? 8-)
It doesnt crashed for me until now. Even if i catch up a whole group.
What am i doing wrong ? :-)
Rene
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From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: FAT c-news?
Message-ID: <1994Feb16.165345.2829@afs.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 16:53:45 GMT
Regarding the MAB NewsGrazer that is now available: Does anyone know if
c-news compiles successfully fat? Has anyone done it? What version of
c-news? Is source available?
Thanx,
Michael
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From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John (kzin) Rudd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing Serial Ports
Keywords: mux driver, serial, ns/intel
Message-ID: <139448@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 17 Feb 94 02:59:14 GMT
Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
I picked up the MUX serial driver off of ftp.uni-stuttgart.de,
and installed it under NS/Intel. The Configure app worked just
fine, but I don't see any new devices in /dev..
So... what do I need to do?
I'm trying to set up a way to use my internal modem for dialing
out.. Either using tip or some terminal program (is there something
avaible for free?).. and I'd eventually like to use it for SLIP.
John
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===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.==============
DOOM ON YOU!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Help on netinfo
Message-ID: <1994Feb16.184944.12259@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 18:49:44 GMT
Does any body knows how to get in objective-c a list of the
user's login name from the / netinfo domain like nidump
does?
I would like to retain login name and real life name.
I know how to do it in a shell script:
nidump passwd / | awk -F: ' { printf("(%s) %s\n",$5,$1); }' | sort
(Alain Cleaudeville) alain
(Alain Forcioli) forcioli
Thanks.
--Fabien
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From: haibach@monte.chem.brown.edu (F. Haibach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Edit.app and Fortran?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 17 Feb 1994 05:14:54 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <haibach-170294000553@dollmac.chem.brown.edu>
To those of you who are bothering to read this, THANKS.
I want to know if anybody has experience editing Fortran files using
Edit.app. I realize emacs is available from cs.orst.edu, but I don't know
if I want to use that yet.
The problem is setting up the class for Fortran files. Has anyone
customized the "mode" in Preferences?
Can you coax Edit.app to write the line numbers on the side like in emacs,
or are you forced to jump to the line.
Is it possible to compress indents properly? Are continuation markers a
problem?
Is this whole idea hopeless? Should I learn emacs like any other sane
person? Fortran isn't dead yet, as long as compiler development is behind
the language developments.
FgH...
Please send email to:
haibach@monte.chem.brown.edu
In real life I'm just a grad student dying to get a degree.
From: hndrcksn@ectds.com (Jim Hendrickson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!
Date: 17 Feb 1994 03:21:32 GMT
Organization: Trident Data Systems
Sender: hndrcksn@1.121.159.165.in-addr.arpa.
Message-ID: <2junrs$d1s@discovery.ectds.com>
References: <2jj8ka$1lk@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
<2jml9l$ik7@inxs.concert.net>
<next2.761242005@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <next2.761242005@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes:
>
> >What I stated was that Frame was porting 3.0 over to Intel until the 4.0
> >version can be ported to NeXTSTEP.
>
> If they redeveloped 4.0 for NS correctly from the very beginning, they need not
> port anything to Intel or HP-PA or whateveryoulike. It would be only a compiler
> switch. IMHO, the approach you described does not make any sense at all.
>
BEWARE Your HO.
They would port 3.0 BECAUSE they could get it done with significantly
less effort than re-engineering 4.0 to be "whateveryoulike"-capable.
That means a potential of a quicker ROE. Who know's what they're
thinking, except, it seems, that the port is cost effective.
Many NeXT developers found that porting to Intel was fairly simple,
provided you didn't add bunches of new 'features'.
My opinions do not necesarily reflect those of Trident Data Systems, or
for that matter, lots of people I know.
From: madon@disuns2.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GNAT for NS
Date: 17 Feb 1994 07:44:57 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Message-ID: <2jv79p$emb@disuns2.epfl.ch>
Is there someone who successfully compiled gcc with gnat
under NS ?
----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TCL/TK
Date: 17 Feb 1994 08:34:49 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2jva79$17o@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2jtkij$468@nagasena.muc.de>
Keywords: TEST
kay@nagasena.muc.de wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>Hi
>I compiled tcl/tk on my own on a NSFIP 3.2
>
Please observe the NeXTisms in the TCL faq.
ftp rtfm.mit.edu: pub/usenet/comp.lang.tcl/*
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Do apps like "Digital Oscilloscope: exist for black hardware...
Message-ID: <2jvm64$h6v@vesta.unm.edu>
From: amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown)
Date: 17 Feb 1994 04:59:00 -0700
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: mail a reply!
I am looking for apps (NeXT black) that are like the "digital Oscilloscope"
and the "Spectrum Analyzer" that were released with 2.0... I have checked
the FTP sites and have been able to find very little on generation of
pure tones through the DSP. Any help and/or pointers would be greatly
appreciated...
--Aaron...
amb78@unm.edu
From: james@pixel.apana.org.au (James Gardiner [hunter])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next renderman and netrenderman compatable???
Date: 17 Feb 1994 23:36:06 +1100
Organization: Pixels.. let them dance.
Message-ID: <2jvobm$h5d@pixel.apana.org.au>
We have net-renderman on a SGI machine on our network.
We are getting an intel Nextstep machine up and running.
I know nextstep supports some kind of network rendering but is
it compatable with net-renderman found on the SGI?
If not? why not? What can I do about it?
Has anyone got any suggestions??
Thanks,
James
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep Academic Bundle
Date: 10 Feb 1994 19:36:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Message-ID: <2je2bs$hfa@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CL0MAK.69L@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
In article <CL0MAK.69L@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim
Pugh) writes:
> I am suprised that no one has mentioned the fact that any student or
> academic staff member can easily get NS3.2 via mail order from
> Diskovery Educational Systems. You have to establish yourself as
> a actual student/faculty/staff person first. Thereafter, a simple
> phone call with Visa or Master Card is all you need.
I got mine by calling NeXT directly at 1-800-848-6398. They put it on my
credit card and mailed it to me. This was version 3.1. I assume their
policy hasn't changed for 3.2 and that they still sell to individuals.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: wyee@wyee.corpit.cantel.Rogers.Com (William Yee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs with NEXTSTEP look and feel?
Date: 17 Feb 1994 13:51:58 GMT
Organization: Rogers Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2jvspu$nbu@mail.Rogers.Com>
References: <2jc55p$70f@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Can anyone let me know the ftp site for emacs 19 running on top NS/white
3.2? Thanks for help.
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Date: 17 Feb 1994 08:45:04 -0500
Organization: Collins International Services Company
Message-ID: <2jvsd0$9ae@sgate.com>
References: <1994Feb14.202330.10414@millennium.com> <1994Feb15.111203.7623@seer.demon.co.uk>
In article <1994Feb15.111203.7623@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk writes:
>75 crashes a whole lot more for me, and that is just when reading a group,
>not with Catch up.
It's probably due to the same reasons the old NewsGrazer crashed -- it can't
handle mangled article headers. You have to turn off prefetching article
titles, and go in and find the offending article by reading articles one by
one.
I wasn't aware of a MAB NewsGrazer. Guess I'll have to look for it.
>Paul
------
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------
"Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like
`Psychic Wins Lottery.'"
-- Comedian Jay Leno
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From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Message-ID: <1994Feb17.132939.446@afs.com>
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
References: <westesCL7HqF.EFt@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 13:29:39 GMT
Will Estes writes
>Am I missing something, or does NeXTSTEP completely lack the most
>basic of edit controls inside an edit window? I'm so used to the
>MS-Windows standards of using the Home, End, Ctrl-Home, Ctrl-End,
>ctrl-<right arrow>, ctrl-<left arrow> to maneuver around a file or
>line that I really feel crippled now when usint NeXTSTEP to edit
>ASCII text. Are there NS equivalents that let you move back and
>forth one word at a time when composing mail, for example? How
>about deleting one word to the right, or one entire line?
Mr. Estes couldn't have set us up better if he worked for us.
WriteUp will do all these, and allow you to customize the keyboard,
so, for example, Word users can set the keyboard up to work like
Word. What a concept.
Thanx,
Michael
P.S. If you turn on emacs (ugh!) key bindings in Edit, among other
things ctrl-d does forward delete.
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From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: What Machine Does Windows NT Run Best On?
Date: 17 Feb 1994 14:51:17 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k0095$s3t@inxs.concert.net>
A friend of mine just forwarded this onto me...looks like Microsoft takes a
beating in that particular newsgroup quite frequently
From: Denise Blakeley <blake015@bullnext.mc.duke.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:00:52 -0500
To: info@absystems.com
Subject: Your humor for today
I just saw this on rec.humor.funny!
Q. What machine does Windows NT run best on?
A. A 35mm slide projector.
Dave
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From: konmh@cm4.ericsson.se (Mike Henry)
Subject: Re: gdbmAdaptor MAB ?
Message-ID: <konmh.761495522@cm4>
Sender: news@ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson
References: <1994Feb14.183629.333@wicket.fdn.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:32:02 GMT
fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) writes:
>I m looking for the gdbmAdaptor in MAB.
>I have found a version but the files are not in FAT.
'gdbmAdaptor' has been removed from distribution due to a copyright
dispute. There never was a MAB of 'gdbmAdaptor' distributed, only a m68k
version. Please delete any copies of 'gdbmAdaptor' from your site and
encourage others to do likewise.
However, don't dispair! There will be a freely distributable DBKit Adaptor
and Database released real soon now. It is called 'dbmAdaptor' and
implements the NeXT's ERA model on top of NDBM instead of GDBM.
'dbmAdaptor' is currently in final testing and polishing and will be
released as a MAB.
Unfortunately 'dbmAdaptor' and 'gdbmAdaptor' are *NOT* compatible at the
database level. This means that databases created with 'gdbmAdaptor' will
not work with 'dbmAdaptor'.
I have been down with the flu for the past week-and-a-half and haven't
been able to get anything accomplished.
Redirect any and all questions concerning 'gdbmAdaptor' and 'dbmAdaptor'
to:
mike@stacken.kth.se
>FReD
Sincerely,
-Mike
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From: tjb@wintermute.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sendmail times out after message body appears delivered
Date: 17 Feb 1994 15:33:53 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire - Durham, NH USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2k02p1$cs7@mozz.unh.edu>
I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem. I'm using IDA
sendmail (5.65c-1.4.4.1) on a NeXT and every so often a message will come
along where the entire body of the message is received and stored in the
df file (/usr/spool/mqueue/dfAA14792 or whatever) but the mail connection
eventually times out. I end up with lots of copies of complete df files
but the message never gets delivered. The syslog always shows a timeout.
The problem seems to be message specific since other messages from the
same host arrive and are delivered with no problems. This has happened
from a couple of different hosts. It's almost like my sendmail is waiting
for the period on a line by itself marking the end of the message body
and the system on the other end is not sending it.
By the way, sendmail was compiled under NS 3.0 and I'm now running 3.2.
NeXT's curious mangling of include files makes it difficult to compile
the newer 5.67b-1.5 IDA sendmail.
Any help would be appreciated...
tjb
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From: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Subject: Re: Dictionary German-English Wanted
Message-ID: <1994Feb16.182919.820@ideal.muc.de>
Sender: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Organization: Eversmile
References: <2jootl$r03@vampir.hnv.icem.de>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 18:29:19 GMT
In article <2jootl$r03@vampir.hnv.icem.de> js@balu (Juergen Sell) writes:
> Subject says it all :
> Is there a dictionary application for german-english ?
>
> Thanks, Juergen
> --
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> ' | (_ Icem Systems ( NeXTMail welcome )
> ,| _) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
> (_| BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
I use ToolsBook with a Langenscheidt dictionary.
With ToolsBook you have access to all of the ELECTRONICBOOK dictionaries.
Adresse:
Tools GmbH
Adolfstra e 5
W-5300 Bonn 1
Telefon:+49 228 985800
Fax: +49 228 697543
Email: info@Tools.DE
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From: mjl@tick.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Martin J Laubach)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sendmail times out after message body appears delivered
Followup-To: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 17 Feb 1994 17:30:51 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2k09kb$jkv@email.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <2k02p1$cs7@mozz.unh.edu>
| sendmail (5.65c-1.4.4.1) on a NeXT and every so often a message will come
| along where the entire body of the message is received and stored in the
| df file (/usr/spool/mqueue/dfAA14792 or whatever) but the mail connection
| eventually times out.
Yes, I'm experiencing the same problem -- though from the other (the
sender's) side. I've a site here on campus that uses a NeXT as mailhost,
and quite a few mails are returned because of "451 connection timed
out".
mjl
From: wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Date: 17 Feb 1994 16:38:04 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <2k06hc$507@svin01.win.tue.nl>
References: <1994Feb17.132939.446@afs.com>
In article <1994Feb17.132939.446@afs.com> Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael
Pizolato) writes:
>...
>...
> P.S. If you turn on emacs (ugh!) key bindings in Edit, among other
> things ctrl-d does forward delete.
>
> ---
> Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
> NeXTMail accepted
It is possible to modify to some extent the emacs key bindings using the
Keyboard.app, which can be found in /NextDeveloper/Demos. With my own keyboard, I
can use keys like ctrl-<arrow-right> for going to the the end of the line.
__________________________________________________
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Eindhoven University of Technology
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: irogers@variations.music.indiana.edu (Ian Rogers)
Subject: XV3.0
Message-ID: <CLE46z.6I0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 22:37:47 GMT
Has anyone compiled XV3.0 on black hardware?
If so, could I have the changes necessary to make the thing work?
ian
--
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irogers@indiana.edu
From: shaman@halcyon.com (Russell Wilcoxon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Intel 3.1 eval & 3.2 upgrade?
Date: 17 Feb 1994 14:43:31 -0800
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Sender: news@nwfocus.wa.com
Message-ID: <2k0ruj$d9i@nwfocus.wa.com>
have the NeXTstep 3.1 Evaluation pkg. and I'm wondering if the 3.2
upgrade will work on it? I need both the user and development upgrades
to work. Please let me know of any problems with this plan.
Russell Wilcoxon
shaman@halcyon.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Message-ID: <1994Feb18.000259.15609@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2jvsd0$9ae@sgate.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 00:02:59 GMT
In article <2jvsd0$9ae@sgate.com> matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
writes:
> In article <1994Feb15.111203.7623@seer.demon.co.uk>
paul@seer.demon.co.uk writes:
> >75 crashes a whole lot more for me, and that is just when reading a
group,
> >not with Catch up.
>
> It's probably due to the same reasons the old NewsGrazer crashed -- it
can't
> handle mangled article headers. You have to turn off prefetching
article
> titles, and go in and find the offending article by reading articles one
by
> one.
It is, as it happens.
Paul
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Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle)
Subject: NS '.info' file reader
Message-ID: <1994Feb18.020539.11549@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us>
Organization: Little to None
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 02:05:39 GMT
I'm looking for a nice NS app to read .info files (like those distributed
with diffutils, gnutar, etc...).
Is there one out there?
Thanks,
Kurt
From: pgriffin@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (Paul A. Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3.1 --> 3.2 lost software
Date: 18 Feb 1994 04:38:53 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k1gotINNo3j@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
I have a nextstation.
1. Under 3.1 I was able to change the position of the
dock from the "far" right to the far left via the dwrite
dwrite Workspace DockOriginX 0
Now under 3.2, the dock stays on the right. Does anyone know how to recover
this feature (useful to left-handed persons like myself).
2. There was a nice application under 3.1 that recorded sounds. It seems to
be missing under 3.2; alot of the sound playing has been moved to
Workspace.app, but I cannot find any recording features. Does anyone
know what to do under 3.2, other than to copy "old" software.
--Paul
--
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Physics Department, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL, 32611
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS '.info' file reader
Date: 18 Feb 1994 03:13:57 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2k1bpl$on9@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <1994Feb18.020539.11549@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us>
In article <1994Feb18.020539.11549@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) writes:
>I'm looking for a nice NS app to read .info files (like those distributed
>with diffutils, gnutar, etc...).
>Is there one out there?
>Thanks,
>Kurt
"info" (comes with the texinfo distribution) works fine on the NeXT.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: smeester@antares (Eric Smeesters)
Subject: How to get a remote X window from a Sun? (setenv DISPLAY)
Message-ID: <1994Feb18.090349.11942@info.ucl.ac.be>
Keywords: X setenv DISPLAY
Sender: news@info.ucl.ac.be (News Administrator)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Catholic University of Louvain
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 09:03:49 GMT
Hi,
Is it possible to get an X window coming from a Sun Workstation on the
NeXT screen? In other words, is it possible to have an X communication
between a Sun and a NeXt? Between 2 Sun's, the command is setenv DISPLAY
rigel:0.0
I don't want to use CubeX or something like that, I just want to get my
graphic window appear on my NeXT screen while working on another Sun
workstation with rlogin.
Thanks a lot for help!
Eric
--
Eric Smeesters
Phone: +32 10 47 80 66
email: Smeesters@tele.ucl.ac.be (NeXT email appreciated)
Universite Catholique de Louvain
Laboratoire de Telecommunications et Teledetection
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Next renderman and netrenderman compatable???
Message-ID: <1994Feb17.171957.11773@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <2jvobm$h5d@pixel.apana.org.au>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 17:19:57 GMT
In article <2jvobm$h5d@pixel.apana.org.au> james@pixel.apana.org.au (James Gardiner [hunter]) writes:
>>
>>We have net-renderman on a SGI machine on our network.
>>We are getting an intel Nextstep machine up and running.
>>
>>I know nextstep supports some kind of network rendering but is
>>it compatable with net-renderman found on the SGI?
>>
>>If not? why not? What can I do about it?
>>
>>Has anyone got any suggestions??
>>
The prman that shipped with NeXTSTEP 3.x thus far does not, to my knowledge,
support networked rendering in Pixar's netRenderMan sense of the word.
When I looked into this issue in the summer (having NeXTs in the middle of
a bunch of other kinds of machines running RenderMan) I discovered a
few bugs with interoperation, which were reported to Pixar and NeXT and
were fixed for 3.2 (light handles, "int" vs "integer" in the client library,
etc.). Part of the problem was the fact that I was the first (you might
be the second) person to be trying to integrate NeXTs and SGIs happily
together.
NeXT needs to ship the nrmserver, nrmcontrol, etc. stuff for networked
rendering to work right. They also need to ship the rest of the RenderMan
developer tools (most noticeably catrib).
I still don't know why they haven't. I've asked, but nobody has ever
given my an answer. Maybe if more people ask...
--
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--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software
From: btl@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.ling)
Subject: Re: Sendmail times out after message body appears delivered
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 14:10:22 GMT
Message-ID: <CLFBDG.ILE@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>
References: <2k02p1$cs7@mozz.unh.edu> <2k09kb$jkv@email.tuwien.ac.at>
In article <2k09kb$jkv@email.tuwien.ac.at> mjl@tick.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Martin J Laubach) writes:
->| sendmail (5.65c-1.4.4.1) on a NeXT and every so often a message will come
->| along where the entire body of the message is received and stored in the
->| df file (/usr/spool/mqueue/dfAA14792 or whatever) but the mail connection
->| eventually times out.
->
-> Yes, I'm experiencing the same problem -- though from the other (the
->sender's) side. I've a site here on campus that uses a NeXT as mailhost,
->and quite a few mails are returned because of "451 connection timed
->out".
i had that problem on one of my machines also - it turned out that the
machine who refused the connection had a user with a null GID in /etc/passwd.
this apparently screwed up NIS and sendmail (they got confused as to
where to locate/deliver information).
deleting that line in /etc/passwd and pushing the maps solved the problem.
--
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%% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %%
%% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %%
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From: ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian Bainbridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Metamail on NS/FIP
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 10:07:14 EST
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Ru8XHc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Originator: ian@mindvox
I was wondering if there is an already modified source package for
metamail under NeXTSTEP for Intel. Or if anyone who has compiled the
package to work with Elm has any information on what needs to be changed
in order to get it to compile.
Many thanks.
Incidentally for those who care, I have so far received 15 responses to
the "install 3.2 clean, or use upgrade app" question I posed a few days
ago. So far 100% agree that upgrade.app did *something* strange to their
system and caused a slew of problems that did not exist prior to running
it, while those who did a clean install report none of the ill effects
associated with upgrade.app.
This is all anecdotal and may be 100% wrong, but it sure seems like a lot
of people who had problems with the 3.1 -> 3.2 upgrade on both black and
white hardware.
Just thought I'd share it for hte benefit of those who mailed me asking
for the results.
ian #################
@ #Ian Bainbridge #
mindvox. # ###############################################
phantom. # I am not responsible for my opinons, I don't know or care! #
com ###############################################################
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest)
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Message-ID: <CLFE20.AF4@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
References: <1994Feb17.132939.446@afs.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:08:24 GMT
In article 446@afs.com, Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) writes:
>P.S. If you turn on emacs (ugh!) key bindings in Edit, among other
> things ctrl-d does forward delete.
ctrl-d is SUPPOSED to do delete-char! The problem with Edit.app is that it
is not emacs.
How can we get this poor lost soul to See The Light, Repent of his Evil
Ways, and stop Persecuting users of the One True Editor?
Mark
--
Mark Wuest
mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (NeXT Mail Ok)
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: remote rendering
Date: 18 Feb 1994 16:07:08 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb18160708@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
I've recently started playing rather heavily with my 3DReality and since
I only have a lowly NeXTSTATION colour, it's a bit slow on the big
stuff -- is there any way to take advantage of non next machines on
my lan to speed this up? Is there some form of a public rpc.renderd?
No one else at my site uses NeXTS so I can't tap into their unused potential,
and who knows how long it will be before they put NS on their HP's and
Sparcs.
Scott
--
EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
"A wasted youth is better by far than a wise and productive old age"
"In another novel, I *am* you"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: problem with calendar - fix suggestion
Message-ID: <CLEttI.DC1@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <1994Feb15.194654.2203@newshost.lanl.gov>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 07:51:17 GMT
In article <1994Feb15.194654.2203@newshost.lanl.gov> fitz@nextone.lanl.gov
(Joe Fitzgerald) writes:
> I get the following error message (NS/FIP 3.2):
>
> nextone> calendar -
> /usr/bin/calendar: syntax error at line 1: `^' unexpected
>
> although the simple 'calendar' command works properly. Has anyone
> corrected this problem?
I have changed it so it works now but I'm not shure if i didn't miss
something. Here's the diff:
belly kiwi 234 (~): diff /NEXTSTEP_3.2/usr/bin/calendar /usr/bin/calendar
0a1
> #!/bin/sh
20c21
< ( cat /etc/passwd; nidump passwd . ; /usr/lib/calendar -p ) | sort
-t: -u +0 -1 |
---
> ( cat /etc/passwd; nidump passwd . ; nidump passwd /; ) | sort -t:
-u +0 -1 |
36a38
>
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Touch app
Date: 18 Feb 1994 18:11:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2k30d3$5pa@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Stephen Fitzpatrick (sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk) wrote:
: Anybody know of an application called Touch? By my understanding,
: it uses FTP to simulate NFS, so you can effectively mount any
: filesystem to which you have FTP access. ....
Not just FTP, You can use it to *TELNET* the other system and just
use it like you use Workspace. ( double-click to open a file,
order your account in Sun or other )
I do not see any production version, and I think there is no source
code available.
It is one of my favorite Apps, and very useful. Maybe since it was a beta
App in early day, so just few people know it.
I think Touch may not get lucky to show up like MAB NewsGrazer
It's pity.
I wish to see Touch in my Intel machine.
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lyubomir@cs.buffalo.edu (Alexandrov L Lyubomir)
Subject: Intel vs. Motorola NeXtstep CDs
Message-ID: <CLFLwB.F34@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Followup-To: lyubomir@pegaus.cs.buffalo.edu
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 17:57:45 GMT
Hi,
I might be able to acquire a NeXTstation color slab
(25MhZ, 16MB). However, there is no NeXT step on it.
I have the 3.1 NeXTstep for Intel CD and the 3.2 upgrade for
Intel CD, but cannot boot with either.
Do I need a specail motorola NeXTstep CD or do I just need a special
boot floppy disk? Thank you.
Does the same hold for the NeXT Step Developer 3.1 and 3.2?
(Do I need a special Motorola version for that or can
I use a NeXT Step Developer CD for Intel)
Thank you again.
Lyubomir Alexandrov
lyubomir@pegasus.cs.buffalo.edu
(312)-728-9394 - home
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lazar@enel.ucalgary.ca (Michael Lazar)
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Message-ID: <Feb18.185417.38367@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 18:54:17 GMT
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
In article <2jr083$4j6@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes:
>In article <2jpgts$m4p@zip.eecs.umich.edu>,
>Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> wrote:
>>> IMHO, we should give up supporting Frame who is so reluctant in
>>> supporting NeXT community. While AFS PasteUp is improving and
>>> running, we should support native NeXT apps developer more than other
>>> developer who tends to be eaten by the big MickeyMouse dinosaur.
>>
[other stuff deleted...]
Just to add my $0.02 worth. I wrote to Frame (comments@frame.com)
to ask what the status of Framemaker for N[eE]XTStep is, and
I received the following reply:
> In a nutshell: We are continuing to evaluate the NeXTSTEP market
> on Intel/HP/Sun but do not currently have it on our engineering
> schedule. Your feedback will be forwarded to our Product Marketing
> team for their consideration.
At least they know about the HP/Sun alliances, although it doesn't
sound like it's enough to get the Framemaker ball rolling.
A Framemaker filter would sure make me consider buying Pasteup :-)
michael lazar
lazar@enel.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Message-ID: <1994Feb18.163240.12075@planon.qc.ca>
Sender: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau)
References: <2jr9lt$htl@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:32:40 GMT
We have had some problem with some users in some machine.
I think that the .newsrc file is the center of our problems.
1) From version 72 to 75, the .newsrc format has changed.
2) When someone try to "Catch-Up" a group, NewsGrazer tries to make some change
in .newsrc file.
3) Most of the bugs/problems/crashes described in this thread could be explained
some way with problems with .newsrc file.
Solution:
Remove .newsrc file. This hiden file is located in the home directory.
The configuration will be lost.
Re-start NewsGrazer, a new "clean" .newsrc file will be created.
Re-configure NewsGrazer with your prefered newsgroups.
--
Yanik Crepeau The power of OOP used to stop when
Programmer the programmer typed "make". With
Planon Telexpertise NEXTSTEP and PDO, that is not true
E-Mail: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT) anymore!
From: shi@moskva.ks.uiuc.edu (Zhouhong Joel Shi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT scanner and its software
Date: 18 Feb 1994 19:59:56 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2k36ns$nlh@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: scanner
We are considering to have a scanner and have narrowed down to the one
UC 1260 Color from HSD Microcomputer for NeXT. And also we like to have
the OCR Servant utility. Does anybody know the performance of the
scanner and its software? Your suggestion and comments are appreciated.
Joel Shi
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|University of Illinois Tel: (217)-244-1851
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yehia@cnd.mcgill.ca
Subject: Gif/Jpeg Viewer
Message-ID: <yehia.3.000F3534@cnd.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: Physiology
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 20:12:22 GMT
Does anybody know of a good Gif/JPEG viewer for NeXTSTEP 3.2 on Intel ?
Thanks
Al the Y
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Touch app
Date: 18 Feb 1994 20:26:25 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k389h$q4k@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <2k30d3$5pa@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
In article <2k30d3$5pa@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw
(*** Mark Lin ***) writes:
> Stephen Fitzpatrick (sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk) wrote:
> : Anybody know of an application called Touch? By my understanding,
> : it uses FTP to simulate NFS, so you can effectively mount any
> : filesystem to which you have FTP access. ....
>
> Not just FTP, You can use it to *TELNET* the other system and just
> use it like you use Workspace. ( double-click to open a file,
> order your account in Sun or other )
>
For a while I was running a server called 'alex'. This was an NFS to
FTP mapping server. You could access ftp sites through normal UNIX
pathnames (mounted through alex). As I recall:
arctic.cps.msu.edu:/pub/example.tex
would map to
/alex/edu/msu/cps/arctic/pub/example.tex
I don't know what happened to this but it may be worth checking into.
- Steve
====================================================================
Stephen Perkins |
Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Michigan State University |
"There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Re: [NeXT] NewsGrazer Problem
Message-ID: <CL3BBx.F4t@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <2jc3ml$8em@agate.berkeley.edu>
Distribution: ucb
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 02:28:40 GMT
In article <2jc3ml$8em@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu
(Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
> Hi,
> I'm running NewsGrazer to read news through the SLIP connection.
> My problem is that NewsGrazer takes a "long" time to scan through
> all the articles, and does not marked articles as read after I read
> them. How can I :
> 1. Unsubscribe newsgroup I don't read.
> 2. Have NewsGrazer remember the articles that I've read.
>
> Help appreciated. Thanks.
>
Try using the Article/List view from the menu, then you can sub/unsubscribe
from the Group menu
---
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James P. Klett klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu
jimbo@oingo.umn.edu (SLIP)
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Slip Slipping' away... NeXT Mail Preferred
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From: premise@umich.edu (Sean Michael Willson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: backspace.app
Date: 18 Feb 1994 23:46:54 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k3k1e$dek@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I was wondering if anyone knew how to reset the backspace.app
password if you forgot the old one???? Someone told me that there
is an application that allows you to see where encripted files are
(not look at them) and then you can therefor delete the password so
that when you restart the app you can just renter a new password.
Any help would be greatly appreaciated.
--
____________________________________________________________________
Sean Michael Willson
NeXTmail is Welcomed
Co-President of wwiNc.
premise@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
"Do not believe in miracles. Rely on them."
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Loop-back service for Webster?
Date: 19 Feb 1994 00:07:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k3l8c$pe@agate.berkeley.edu>
In all apps, you can highlight a word and look up the definition
by Command-=, EXCEPT in Webster app itself.
Copy/pasting a word is painful (well, relatively speaking) to do
in Webster, especially because I don't have to do this if I am in
other apps.
I know that this is a feature of services, so...
Is it possible to create an intermediary or relay service that will
take Command-= from Webster, and pass it back on to Webster as if
the request comes from other application?
Can this be done via TickleServices?
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: remote rendering
Message-ID: <1994Feb19.021427.341@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb18160708@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 02:14:27 GMT
In article <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb18160708@shrug.dur.ac.uk> "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> writes:
>>
>>
>>I've recently started playing rather heavily with my 3DReality and since
>>I only have a lowly NeXTSTATION colour, it's a bit slow on the big
>>stuff -- is there any way to take advantage of non next machines on
>>my lan to speed this up? Is there some form of a public rpc.renderd?
>>
>>No one else at my site uses NeXTS so I can't tap into their unused potential,
>>and who knows how long it will be before they put NS on their HP's and
>>Sparcs.
>>
Umm, the only way you could do that is if you have RenderMan licenses
for those other machines. Single UNIX licenses are $3500, multiple ones
are $1500. You can get a 3-machine MacRenderMan license with ShowPlace,
which is ~3xx for the CD version.
be happy RenderMan is bundled with NeXTSTEP...
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jim_Brownfield@radical.com (Jim Brownfield)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer version 75 - Forever Busy
Message-ID: <1994Feb18.003404.7993@Radical.Com>
Sender: jbrow@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <2jjbt4$ep1@runner.uucp>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 00:34:04 GMT
richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu writes
> I am having an intrrmitant problem when running the new NewsGrazer
> (Release 3, Version 75). Occasionally, NewsGrazer shows busy (mouse
> pointer becomes a rotating disk) uses lots of cpu time, and stays busy for
> ever. (or until I kill it from a terminal window.)
>
> NewsGrazer running on
> NeXTStation Color running 3.2 with 32Mb ram
>
> This is not the NewsGrazer exiting problem that occurs when version 72.3
> tries to read an article with a bad header. I also tried deleting the
> NewsGrazer entries in the defaults database and starting from scratch no
> luck. NewsGrazer release 72.3 is still working fine.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> Richard
> richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
> (ok to send NeXT Mail)
I'm having the exact same problem. This is my fifth attempt to post a
follow-up without NewsGrazer hanging up.
--
Jim Brownfield (Jim_Brownfield@Radical.Com) NeXTmail accepted
Radical System Solutions, Inc.
rad i cal \'rad-i-kel\ n -- a basic principle: FOUNDATION
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pjcreath@tucson.Princeton.EDU (Peter Janssen Creath)
Subject: MED player for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994Feb18.214025.405@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 21:40:25 GMT
I've found two MOD players, but no MED players...are there any?
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Touch app
Date: 16 Feb 1994 23:20:58 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Message-ID: <2ju9oq$5cj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
In article <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi> sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk
(Stephen Fitzpatrick) writes:
> Anybody know of an application called Touch? By my understanding,
> it uses FTP to simulate NFS, so you can effectively mount any
> filesystem to which you have FTP access. I think the version I saw
> was an unsupported beta written by someone at NeXT. Anyone know if
> there's a production version or if source code's available (and
> where)?
It comes on the NextStep 3.2 CD, I believe.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM...how to save game?
Date: 18 Feb 1994 22:08:07 -0500
Organization: Collins International Services Company
Message-ID: <2k3vqn$3ro@sgate.com>
References: <1994Feb15.091131.10700@cc.usu.edu> <2jtbto$2r2@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <2jtbto$2r2@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
>Press Esc will bring you from the game mode to the command mode.
>Save while in the command mode, press Esc again to return to the game mode.
Make sure you have write permission to the Doom.app directory, too. If you
don't, the app won't complain, but your game won't be saved.
> Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley NEXTMAIL OK and Preferred!!
------
Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Sendmail times out after message body appears delivered
Message-ID: <1994Feb19.025933.1619@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <2k02p1$cs7@mozz.unh.edu>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 02:59:33 GMT
I'll be making my port of sendmail 8.6.6 with NetInfo support,
outgoing aliases/user database, m4, etc... available as soon as the
official release comes out. Hang in there...
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <2k02p1$cs7@mozz.unh.edu> tjb@wintermute.unh.edu (Thomas
J. Baker) writes:
> I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem. I'm
using IDA
> sendmail (5.65c-1.4.4.1) on a NeXT and every so often a message
will come
> along where the entire body of the message is received and stored
in the
> df file (/usr/spool/mqueue/dfAA14792 or whatever) but the mail
connection
> eventually times out. I end up with lots of copies of complete df
files
> but the message never gets delivered. The syslog always shows a
timeout.
> The problem seems to be message specific since other messages from
the
> same host arrive and are delivered with no problems. This has
happened
> from a couple of different hosts. It's almost like my sendmail is
waiting
> for the period on a line by itself marking the end of the message
body
> and the system on the other end is not sending it.
>
> By the way, sendmail was compiled under NS 3.0 and I'm now running
3.2.
> NeXT's curious mangling of include files makes it difficult to
compile
> the newer 5.67b-1.5 IDA sendmail.
>
> Any help would be appreciated...
>
> tjb
>
> --
>
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=====
> | Thomas Baker - UNH Postmaster | Voice: (603) 862-4490
|
> | Networking & Unix Systems Manager | Fax: (603) 862-1085
|
> | Computing & Information Services
====================================|
> | University of New Hampshire | Internet:
Thomas.J.Baker@UNH.edu |
> | M113 Kingsbury Hall | NeXTmail Encouraged!
|
> | Durham, NH 03824 | PGP key available on
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=====
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Touch app
Date: 17 Feb 1994 20:12:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: su
Message-ID: <2k0j40$qpe@hub.ucsb.edu>
References: <2ju9oq$5cj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2ju9oq$5cj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd
Takken) writes:
] In article <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi> sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk
] (Stephen Fitzpatrick) writes:
] > Anybody know of an application called Touch? By my understanding,
] > it uses FTP to simulate NFS, so you can effectively mount any
] > filesystem to which you have FTP access. I think the version I saw
] > was an unsupported beta written by someone at NeXT. Anyone know if
] > there's a production version or if source code's available (and
] > where)?
]
] It comes on the NextStep 3.2 CD, I believe.
]
No, it is not distributed, and I beleive it has been posted in the past that it
was a test program, and has never been supported, and is not available.
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Touch app
Message-ID: <1994Feb18.000401.15667@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2k0j40$qpe@hub.ucsb.edu>
Distribution: su
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 00:04:01 GMT
In article <2k0j40$qpe@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas
Scott) writes:
> In article <2ju9oq$5cj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU
(Todd
> Takken) writes:
> ] In article <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi> sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk
> ] (Stephen Fitzpatrick) writes:
> ] > Anybody know of an application called Touch? By my understanding,
> ] > it uses FTP to simulate NFS, so you can effectively mount any
> ] > filesystem to which you have FTP access. I think the version I saw
> ] > was an unsupported beta written by someone at NeXT. Anyone know if
> ] > there's a production version or if source code's available (and
> ] > where)?
> ]
> ] It comes on the NextStep 3.2 CD, I believe.
> ]
> No, it is not distributed, and I beleive it has been posted in the past
that it
> was a test program, and has never been supported, and is not available.
It was on the last educational CDROM, I seem to recall.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: kdb@pegasus (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do I print multiple pages per page?
Date: 19 Feb 1994 08:21:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2k4i6c$mmu@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I have a .ps document that has many pages and I want to print several pages
per piece of paper. If this were a .rtf file, I'd just use <command>-P in
"edit" to set "4-UP" for example. But how with .ps? Preview's Page
Layout doesn't work, and I can't think of a freebie application to do it.
Buying Tailor is *NOT* an acceptable solution since I don't actually need
to edit the file. Thanks for any help.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin +
+ kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Re: Touch app
Message-ID: <CLGF81.K9u@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <2ju9oq$5cj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: su
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 04:32:16 GMT
In article <2ju9oq$5cj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd
Takken) writes:
> In article <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi> sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk
> (Stephen Fitzpatrick) writes:
> > Anybody know of an application called Touch? By my understanding,
> > it uses FTP to simulate NFS, so you can effectively mount any
> > filesystem to which you have FTP access. I think the version I saw
> > was an unsupported beta written by someone at NeXT. Anyone know if
> > there's a production version or if source code's available (and
> > where)?
>
> It comes on the NextStep 3.2 CD, I believe.
>
I have NeXT Step 3.2 installed and I do not have an app called Touch
---
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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jimbo@oingo.umn.edu (SLIP)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Slip Slipping' away... NeXT Mail Preferred
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: padua@cimnext2.eas.asu.edu (Bobby Padua)
Subject: Internet -UUENCODE
Message-ID: <CLG2nA.5DA@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 23:59:30 GMT
I would like to know if anyone out there can help me with this.
I'm currently on Internet - and I can only access it through terminal mode.
Then I telnet to another remote machine at the University. to read my mail is
easy but reading attachments is impossible. What can I do???
-Can I do a cut and paste for binary files and use a uuencode command to the
file created.
* I tried this with no success- can I go about it another way?
-Or is there a better way to transfer files from a remote machine.
Email me your solutions please. Thanks
B P
padua@cimnext2.eas.asu.edu
From: mvjones@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FSP Client for Nextstep?
Date: 19 Feb 1994 00:48:33 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k3nl1$gm9@bantu.provo.novell.com>
Is there an FSP Client for Nextstep?
Thanks....
Matthew Jones
mvjones*novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love )
Subject: HTML
Message-ID: <1994Feb19.033101.5485@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 03:31:01 GMT
Given that I don't have Mosiac is there a NeXT app that will read/display
HTML files? Can I just ftp to a site and grab the file.html, bring it
back and read it.
I'm asking because somebody told me the info I wanted was available as a
html and I really don't know much about it.
Thanx for all tips/pointers.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
BIX: rlove
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From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: WorldWideWeb.app for Intel?
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <1994Feb19.125818.8835@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 12:58:18 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Hi,
does somebody know whether the WorldWideWeb.app (or another
WWW client for native NS - I don't mean Mosaic or other X11-clients)
on Intel hardware is available?
Thank you in advance,
Thomas
--
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PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171
EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:2784/~wolf
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From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Weather.app? Where?
Date: 19 Feb 1994 14:18:26 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k573i$cfk@inxs.concert.net>
One of my customers has Weather.app (NeXT front-end) on their machines and I'd
like to get it over the weekend for my personal use.
Does ANYBODY know where it might be FTP'd from?
Dave
--
Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice]
A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax]
NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Any QBE databases available?
Date: 19 Feb 1994 11:52:50 -0500
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k5g52$d58@dorito.cs.umd.edu>
Hi,
I'm looking for a database that gives me QBE (query by example) that I
can use in a custom data analysis program. Something like Borland's
Paradox for Windows, but for NS. A QBE front end to SQL would suffice.
Any suggestions? Thanks, Ross.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon)
Subject: Menu's for telnet
Message-ID: <CLFwAp.CnE@oodis01.hill.af.mil>
Keywords: menu, telnet
Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;)
Organization: Hill AFB
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 21:42:25 GMT
Does anyone know if there is an app that is a front-end to some Unix
cshell program that will allow users to telnet to my machine and instead
of a Unix prompt, get a menu that would allow users to retrieve various
bits of information from my machine? I would like to be able to monitor
users and do updates and add new features through the front-end. I am
pushing my knowledge envelope on this one so any help is appreciated.
Keith Salmon
salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
NeXTMail appreciated
From: tgall@oliverwjones.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP <HELP!!!!>
Date: 19 Feb 1994 22:29:36 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k63sg$1e0k@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Ok I must admit it, I really don't know what I'm doing.
I have white PC hardware at home with 3.2 on it. I want to connect into work via SLIP.
I've cruised the nets, picked up SLIPCommander (with thanks to all those who helped me find it), but I seem to be missing what I'd call the middle layer.
IE
SLIPCommander
-------------
SLIP implementation <-- this is missing
-------------------
NeXTSTEP
Well I did find the middle layer, the TransSys demo of Slip but that was for black hardware. SLIPCommander depends on it. So is there a version for white hardware out there?
Or maybe I am going about this all wrong. I really don't know. Advice anyone? Anybody wanna sell me something that will work? (besides black hardware ;-)
Ultimately I do want to connect into work and run X over SLIP, and/or mount drives from my 6000 via NFS. (yeah I know, I have a high tolerance for pain I guess)
Thanks for any help in advance!
Tom
--
tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (work -- NeXTMail NOT ok)
tgall@online.apple.com (home -- Newton Mail OK!)
_________________________________________________________________________
|o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o|
|o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o|
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: Re: Touch app
Message-ID: <1994Feb19.230630.25384@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis
References: <2ju9oq$5cj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <CLGF81.K9u@news.cis.umn.edu>
Distribution: su
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 23:06:30 GMT
In article <CLGF81.K9u@news.cis.umn.edu> klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu writes:
>In article <2ju9oq$5cj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd
>Takken) writes:
>> In article <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi> sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk
>> (Stephen Fitzpatrick) writes:
>> > Anybody know of an application called Touch? By my understanding,
>> > it uses FTP to simulate NFS, so you can effectively mount any
>> > filesystem to which you have FTP access. I think the version I saw
>> > was an unsupported beta written by someone at NeXT. Anyone know if
>> > there's a production version or if source code's available (and
>> > where)?
>>
>> It comes on the NextStep 3.2 CD, I believe.
>>
>
> I have NeXT Step 3.2 installed and I do not have an app called Touch
>---
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
> James P. Klett klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu
> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu (SLIP)
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
> Slip Slipping' away... NeXT Mail Preferred
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
I found Touch on the NeXT Education Sampler disk in the directory
NeXT/ScienceDemos. Don't know why it is there, but I just checked it out and
it looks quite nice. Another instance of having to read the net to see what
I already have. :-)
--Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman)
Subject: Re: Loop-back service for Webster?
Message-ID: <1994Feb19.214344.1167@objectario.com>
Sender: shayman@objectario.com
Organization: Steve Hayman + Associates / NeXTSTEP Consulting / Toronto
References: <2k3l8c$pe@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 21:43:44 GMT
You can command-doubleclick on a word in a Webster definition and
it will look up that word. (This little-known trick is in Webster's
online help.)
Steve
---
Steve Hayman shayman@Objectario.com
Steve Hayman & Associates, Toronto, Ontario
(416) 769-8995 NeXTSTEP Consulting
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha)
Subject: How to append a signature automatically within Mail.app?
Message-ID: <1994Feb18.115523.150@news.uminho.pt>
Keywords: signature Mail.app
Sender: newsadm@news.uminho.pt (Network News Account)
Organization: Universidade do Minho
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 11:55:23 GMT
Hi,
Can someone out there, tell me how can I append a signature message within
Mail.app?
Thanks in advance,
Jorge.
--
From: kay@nagasena.muc.de (Kay Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NG Failed
Date: 19 Feb 1994 08:45:56 GMT
Organization: Firestone Chaotic Group
Message-ID: <2k4jk4$4km@nagasena.muc.de>
Hi
If I want to write a followup with NewsGrazer, it fails, with a strange
window and message
Posting failed: '"d '
or something like that. Any idea
From: roy@starbase.niehs.nih.gov (Roy W. Reter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Listserv or Listproc
Date: 19 Feb 1994 22:14:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402200412.AA01856@starbase.niehs.nih.gov>
Does anyone know where I can find a binary that has all ready been compiled
for a Next black slab of listserv or listproc?
Please respond via email to the address below.
Thanks,
Roy
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FSP Client for Nextstep?
Date: 20 Feb 1994 04:37:38 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2k6pei$63b@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2k3nl1$gm9@bantu.provo.novell.com>
In article <2k3nl1$gm9@bantu.provo.novell.com> mvjones@novell.com
writes:
>Is there an FSP Client for Nextstep?
Not yet (that I'm aware of).
-=EPS=-
(who's happy with the present command-line version)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: CAP for NEXTSTEP 3.2
Message-ID: <1994Feb20.010229.11618@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 01:02:29 GMT
Does anyone have Columbia Appletalk compiled, up and running under 3.2?
I've taken a brief look at the docs/package, and it seems large and boring to
say the least. Anyone out there already spent the time patching, compiling etc
want to post the binaries?
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Menu's for telnet
Followup-To: comp.unix.shell
Date: 20 Feb 1994 06:04:55 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2k6ui7$865@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <CLFwAp.CnE@oodis01.hill.af.mil>
In article <CLFwAp.CnE@oodis01.hill.af.mil>
salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is an app that is a front-end to some Unix
>cshell program that will allow users to telnet to my machine and instead
>of a Unix prompt, get a menu that would allow users to retrieve various
>bits of information from my machine? I would like to be able to monitor
>users and do updates and add new features through the front-end. I am
>pushing my knowledge envelope on this one so any help is appreciated.
The standard UNIX mechanism for doing this is something called a
"restricted shell." csh doesn't support this, but sh does.
[This is the point where Carl Edman would shout RTFM!, but NeXT
seems to have omitted this information from the sh(1) man page.
Note that this topic is common to most (if not all) UNIX
systems, and is definitely not NeXT-specific. If you have access
to other UNIX systems, it's probably discussed in their
documentation.]
If sh is invoked with the name rsh (unrelated to /usr/ucb/rsh--
which is itself known on some other systems as remsh), it runs in
restricted mode. In this case, it executes .profile more or less
normally, but it it ever exits to a shell prompt,
- commands names containing the / character
- changing the PATH or SHELL (other variables can be
protected by setting them readonly in the .profile)
- changing directory with cd
- output redirection (> and >>)
are all disallowed.
Basically, you make a (sym)link to /bin/sh for rsh in some out-
of-the-way directory, and set that as the shell in your captive
account's passwd entry. (DO NOT add rsh to /etc/shells!)
Make a .profile script that does whatever you need; if it's
designed to exit, it should change its working directory to
something other than the login directory, and establish a new
path that does not include the login directory, /bin, /usr/bin,
/usr/ucb, etc.--but can only access the programs (or scripts)
it needs.
[Followups to comp.unix.shell]
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Message-ID: <1994Feb16.124156.863@gamelan.uucp>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.uucp (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 12:41:56 GMT
In article <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> The MAB version of NewsGrazer (v75) seems to continually crash
> whenever I hit the CatchUp button, or when I select more than 10
> articles and hit the Mark Read menu item. Is anyone else having
> this problem? Will
No crash so far. At least on Motorola it works well. And no more 50%
execution time as the old NG.
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From: thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Message-ID: <1994Feb17.114227.861@gamelan.uucp>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.uucp (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <1994Feb15.121715.5659@proximus.north.de>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 11:42:27 GMT
In article <1994Feb15.121715.5659@proximus.north.de>
gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote:
> > Am I missing something, or does NeXTSTEP completely lack the most
> > basic of edit controls inside an edit window? I'm so used to the
> > MS-Windows standards of using the Home, End, Ctrl-Home, Ctrl-End,
>
> Try use the UNIX "standards" of emacs:
>
> Control-B Moves back one character
> Control-F Moves forward one character
It's standard on almost all unix boxes I know to use keys like
left-arrow, page-up etc. for moving around. Even emacs can be configured
like this. It's a shame that NeXT/Intel is back to the seventies when
using Edit.
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From: thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: TCL/TK
Message-ID: <1994Feb18.112151.432@gamelan.uucp>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.uucp (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <2jtkij$468@nagasena.muc.de>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 11:21:51 GMT
In article <2jtkij$468@nagasena.muc.de> kay@nagasena.muc.de (Kay Schulz)
writes:
> expr exp(1.0)
>
> ==== Test generated error:
> unknown math function "xp"
> *********** Isn't this dangerous???? ******************
Looks not good.
On NS3.2 black I see:
% expr exp(1.0)
2.718282
Try to debug your tcl.
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Menu's for telnet
In-Reply-To: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil's message of Fri, 18 Feb 1994 21:42:25 GMT
To: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb20092948@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CLFwAp.CnE@oodis01.hill.af.mil>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 14:29:47 GMT
In article <CLFwAp.CnE@oodis01.hill.af.mil> salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) writes:
Does anyone know if there is an app that is a front-end to some Unix
cshell program that will allow users to telnet to my machine and instead
of a Unix prompt, get a menu that would allow users to retrieve various
bits of information from my machine? I would like to be able to monitor
users and do updates and add new features through the front-end. I am
pushing my knowledge envelope on this one so any help is appreciated.
This can be done with telnet, but that is rapidly becoming the
old-fashioned way of doing things. If you want to allow remote users
to do tasks which consist mainly out of retrieving some information
out of a fixed set of sources, maybe do some searches or call some
non-interactive scripts or programs, do yourself and your users a
favor and install httpd -- the official WWW daemon. It will both
make your task as the information provider a lot easier and give your
users an interface much more convenient and elegant than one you would
likely be able to. Under NS 3.2 (but not NS3.1 and earlier) httpd
compiles with little problems. Find documentation and source on
http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/Overview.html.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: How to append a signature automatically within Mail.app?
In-Reply-To: jgr@di.uminho.pt's message of Fri, 18 Feb 1994 11:55:23 GMT
To: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb20093228@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Feb18.115523.150@news.uminho.pt>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 14:32:28 GMT
In article <1994Feb18.115523.150@news.uminho.pt> jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha) writes:
Can someone out there, tell me how can I append a signature message within
Mail.app?
RTFFAQ.
Carl Edman
PS: That means Read The Friendly Frequently Asked Question list posted
to c.s.n.announce every month and most recently a few days ago.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: woden@asgard.csuohio.edu (A.P.Santilli)
Subject: Re: Touch app
Message-ID: <1994Feb20.152256.15995@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
References: <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <2k30d3$5pa@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 15:22:56 GMT
*** Mark Lin *** (u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw) wrote:
: Stephen Fitzpatrick (sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk) wrote:
: : Anybody know of an application called Touch?
YES! It was also one of my favorite applications...
I think that Jayson "NewsGrazer" Addams had something to do with
it. I have a beta version that I was given with 2.1, but alas it
will not work with version 3.2 I am running now - A great loss :-(
----------------
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Voice & Data Network Supervisor; Cleveland State University
"traveling without moving..." -Frank Herbert
From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X servers for Intel NS 3.2
Date: 20 Feb 1994 16:32:16 GMT
Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SHIVERS.94Feb20113216@sleepy.lcs.mit.edu>
What is the right X server to get for running on an NeXTSTEP 3.2 PC?
The point is to be able to interface to X client software running remotely
on Unix boxes.
I will summarise my replies to the net in a week or so.
Thanks.
-Olin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dimitri@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Subject: Re: HELP : How to set up a Group Email service
Message-ID: <CLJ9Hw.JMH@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
Keywords: email group address and forwarding
Organization: Delft University of Technology
References: <1994Feb16.212817.7953@newshost.lanl.gov>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 17:20:20 GMT
In article <1994Feb16.212817.7953@newshost.lanl.gov>,
David R Wolf <wolf@lanl.gov> wrote:
>What I want to do is this:
>
> A bunch of dudes want to be able to mail to one address - say
> my machine "harpo@grouchy.gov" and have the email forwarded to a
> particular list of people - the bunch.
>
> Everyone in the bunch should be able to do this, and no-one but the
> guy who sets up the service (me) should have to keep track of who is
> on the forwarding list.
>
>What's the best way?
Simple solution:
Create an alias. A straightforward way to do this:
myhost% su root
Password: <type the root password>
myhost% nidump aliases . > aliases
... add the following line to aliases file ...
mailaddress: :include:/yourdir/list_of_dudes
where mailaddress is the e-mail address at your machine you want to
use and /yourdir/list_of_dudes is an ASCII file with e-mail addresses one per
line.
myhost% niload aliases . < aliases
Later, when you want to add or remove addresses from the list, you
just change te file /yourdir/list_of_dudes.
Not simple, but much more sophisticated solution:
Grab procmail and Smartlist from the archives. If you want, I can
e-mail you the versions I have installed including a couple of
trivial patches. Read the docs - it's very nice.
Dimitri
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From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Date: 20 Feb 1994 18:21:05 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k89mh$9ht@inxs.concert.net>
References: <1994Feb16.124156.863@gamelan.uucp>
In article <1994Feb16.124156.863@gamelan.uucp> thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke)
writes:
> In article <2jodcj$6jt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
> (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>
> > The MAB version of NewsGrazer (v75) seems to continually crash
> > whenever I hit the CatchUp button, or when I select more than 10
> > articles and hit the Mark Read menu item. Is anyone else having
> > this problem? Will
>
I have it on Motorola running 3.2 with 28MB and the only condition under which
it crashes is when I am catching up on a newsgroup with lots of unread articles
as well
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From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to append a signature automatically within Mail.app?
Date: 20 Feb 1994 18:22:41 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k89ph$9hu@inxs.concert.net>
References: <CEDMAN.94Feb20093228@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Feb20093228@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu
(Carl Edman) writes:
> In article <1994Feb18.115523.150@news.uminho.pt> jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge
Gustavo Rocha) writes:
> Can someone out there, tell me how can I append a signature message within
> Mail.app?
>
> RTFFAQ.
>
> Carl Edman
>
> PS: That means Read The Friendly Frequently Asked Question list posted
> to c.s.n.announce every month and most recently a few days ago.
Of, in the alternative, FTP MailHelper.app off of one of the archive sites like
cs.orst.edu or sonata.cc.purdue.edu which took as much space to explain.
Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Message-ID: <1994Feb20.015334.1135@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <jeffo.761380670@uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 01:53:34 GMT
In article <jeffo.761380670@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Roland Telfeyan writes:
>
> >If PasteUp could provide import/export from/to FrameMIF files, that
> >would be a fantastically powerful and wonderful thing!
>
> I asked about this way back when and I was told the proverbial NS app
> excuse about how Frame users weren't the target market. Never mind
> how PasteUp (the alleged Quark-killer at that time) wasn't able to
> load nor save Quark files (and PasteUp file format was in no position
> to be adopted by any large audience for any standard), use Quark
> extension modules or do all the functions Quark could do either.
I'm not sure who you asked, but it wasn't me, and I'm the only person
who can provide the answer. AFS strongly supports the idea of robust
document interchange. Perhaps that was RightBrain's position?
In any event, its current state, PasteUp does not have enough features to
become an acceptable substitute for Frame, even if it could read MIF. That
doesn't mean things will always be that way. If Frame stays out of the
NEXTSTEP market--and that is not an entirely settled matter, as best I can
tell--AFS intends to embellish PasteUp to handle longer, structured
documents. We would be silly to ignore that market if it stays unserved,
and we would be equally silly to move into if Frame came back. On the
other hand, we have learned a lot about document filters from our work on
WriteUp, and a Quark filter is a strong possibility later this year.
> Oh well...we'll see what comes of PasteUp when AFS does some work on it.
Unlike others who have tired of your justified insistence that NEXTSTEP
apps meet the same standards as other OS platforms, I hope you will stay
around long enough to find out. More users should insist on excellence.
--
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Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are
Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
From: thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org (Thomas Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosaic & Mouse-X
Date: 20 Feb 1994 16:56:02 +0100
Organization: Olorin, NeXT Development & System Administration, FRG
Message-ID: <2k816i$15d@olorin.dark.sub.org>
Hi,
Has anyone managed to run Mosaic 2.2 with Mouse-X ?!?
Thomas
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Crud: A New Idea for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Feb20.160331.13792@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 16:03:31 GMT
In article <2k122l$836@magnusson.alpine.com> sean@alpine.com (Sean Luke)
writes:
> Crud is proof-of-concept of not only the desperate need for a system-wide,
> made-for-NeXTSTEP macro language, but of the amazing things NeXT's highly
> consistent development system can offer users of just such a language,
> especially when compared to similar attempts like REXX, tcl, Perl,
AppleScript,
> and the great Evil (Visual Basic).
>
>
> About Crud
>
Just a marketing point here, but Crud is slang for "crap" or "shit" in the UK.
As in the phrase, "thats a pile of old crud".
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Date: 20 Feb 1994 20:07:27 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2k8ftv$cjc@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <jeffo.761380670@uiuc.edu> <1994Feb20.015334.1135@afs.com>
Speaking of WriteUp, or whatever the AFS app is to be
called, when can I get it? I don't have Wordperfect
(disliked intensely) and am sick of using Edit.
Thanks
Robert de Lucca The Johns Hopkins University
gaia@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: Most of my Services have disappeared
Message-ID: <1994Feb20.202031.28274@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 20:20:31 GMT
Hello netters:
Just today I noticed that mysteriously almost all of my services
(such as TickleServices, Mathematica, etc.--all except Mail, Edit and Webster)
which used to come up in the Services menu don't come up anymore.
I keep my machine on all the time so it can't be related to bootup.
Any suggestions on what to do?
Thanks in advance,
Michael Chwe
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From: claspac@cats.ucsc.edu (Willard W Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer for NeXT 3.2
Date: 20 Feb 1994 21:54:25 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Sender: claspac@cats.ucsc.edu
Message-ID: <2k8m6h$cho@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Keywords: USENET NewsGrazer NeXTSTEP
Folks,
I recently upgraded to NS3.2 on black hardware and I find
that the NewsGrazer app I have been using is broken now.
It dies without complaint before even a single news
group has been displayed.
Does anyone know where to get a more recent version
of the NewsGrazer for NeXTSTEP that runs on 3.2?
I'd like to get the source if I could, but binary is
OK since that's all I had for the last version.
FAT binaries would be better!
Please help, I am having to use "rn" while
terminal-rlogged in to a Sun, and it is crippled
in comparison with the NS NewsGrazer!
Thanks
Will Russell
claspac@cats.ucsc.edu
408,459,2060
Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.ada,comp.sys.next.software
From: kamundse@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (Jana Wonder Twin #1)
Subject: Compliers Wanted
Message-ID: <1994Feb21.022607.157645@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 02:26:07 GMT
I am looking for a Fortran and Ada complier for NeXTStep 3.0.
If anyone knows where I could get either or both, please email me
Thanks
-Kristin
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From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Subject: Re: How to append a signature automatically within Mail.app?
Message-ID: <CLItEM.8Jq@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland
References: <1994Feb18.115523.150@news.uminho.pt>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 11:32:45 GMT
In article <1994Feb18.115523.150@news.uminho.pt> jgr@di.uminho.pt
(Jorge Gustavo Rocha) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can someone out there, tell me how can I append a signature message
> within Mail.app?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jorge.
> --
>
The only way I know is to install an application called MailHelper,
a service provider for NeXT Mail writted by Izumi Ohzawa
(izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail)), Manuel Alberto Ricart and
Misha Melikov (mmelikov@paget.com (Nextmail)).
I have founded this in the Electronic AppWrapper CD-ROM Vol 1, by
Paget.
Once installed, you have to prepare the sign files you want
(.signature, .signature.rtf and .signature.tiff) in your home
directory,
then use the MailHelper via Services in most applications.
The same app permit you to reformatting and quoting text.
Hope this helps.
Greetings
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Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe
phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064
NeXTmail: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!)
Message-ID: <1491@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 21 Feb 94 02:57:43 GMT
References: <1994Feb20.015334.1135@afs.com>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Gregory H. Anderson writes
> In article <jeffo.761380670@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
> Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> > Roland Telfeyan writes:
> >
> > >If PasteUp could provide import/export from/to FrameMIF files, that
> > >would be a fantastically powerful and wonderful thing!
> >
> > I asked about this way back when and I was told the proverbial NS app
> > excuse about how Frame users weren't the target market. Never mind
> > how PasteUp (the alleged Quark-killer at that time) wasn't able to
> > load nor save Quark files (and PasteUp file format was in no position
> > to be adopted by any large audience for any standard), use Quark
> > extension modules or do all the functions Quark could do either.
[so far these are J.B. Nicholson-Owens' words]
Sigh. You've been harping on the Quark file format issue like a broken
record. We (RightBrain) never addressed it, but it's totally unfair,
in my opinion, to single us out, since there are NO PRODUCTS that
import or export Quark files. Period. In the world. At all. There
are various reasons for that, one of which is that Quark jealously guards
their file format and refuses to document it. But until PageMaker,
Ventura Publish, FrameMaker, or any of the other products can do it,
it seems unreasonable to demand it from a small product such as PasteUp.
We only ever said that PasteUp was the same kind of product as QuarkXPress;
we never positioned it as a "Quark killer". That would have been
ridiculous. Nobody is going to kill them. But we had a product that ran
under NEXTSTEP, which was a much better environment for publishing.
You used to flame us on the net because we "refused" to address the Quark
file format issue, and although I posted several legitimate reasons (not
"excuses"; there's a difference), you chose not to hear them. Do you also
flame in comp.text.desktop about PageMaker and FrameMaker not having file
interchange with other products? There AREN'T ANY page layout products
that can interchange files! It's as simple (and pathetic) as that. I
never defended that as being the right thing, it's just the way it is, and
we weren't in a position to change that all by our little ol' selves.
I did say (and fully intended) that we would support Maker Interchange
Format, since it was well-documented, ASCII, and it was a product that
exists on NEXTSTEP. As Greg Anderson points out, the feature set of
PasteUp was intended to complement Frame, not replace it, so the import/
export in PasteUp would necessarily be lossy (in both directions; there
are lots of things that PasteUp can do that Frame can't, and vice versa).
> I'm not sure who you asked, but it wasn't me, and I'm the only person
> who can provide the answer. AFS strongly supports the idea of robust
> document interchange. Perhaps that was RightBrain's position?
Our position was always "we'd love to do that eventually, but we have no
immediate plans to do so" with regards Quark file format, and "yes, we
plan to do that in the next major release" for MIF.
> In any event, its current state, PasteUp does not have enough features to
> become an acceptable substitute for Frame, even if it could read MIF. That
> doesn't mean things will always be that way. If Frame stays out of the
> NEXTSTEP market--and that is not an entirely settled matter, as best I can
> tell--AFS intends to embellish PasteUp to handle longer, structured
> documents. We would be silly to ignore that market if it stays unserved,
> and we would be equally silly to move into if Frame came back. On the
> other hand, we have learned a lot about document filters from our work on
> WriteUp, and a Quark filter is a strong possibility later this year.
Excellent points. I'd love to see PasteUp be more cross-compatible with
other products, and I'd love to see it address the Frame market. More
power to you, Greg!
> Unlike others who have tired of your justified insistence that NEXTSTEP
> apps meet the same standards as other OS platforms, I hope you will stay
> around long enough to find out. More users should insist on excellence.
It's not the same thing. I personally got very tired of J.B.'s
insistence that NEXTSTEP apps were "not acceptable" because they
didn't do things like import Quark files, but that *IS* THE SAME
STANDARD AS OTHER OS PLATFORMS. That is, nobody else does it,
either. I can see making the point that it would be a good place to
gain ground and exceed expectations, but it's not like NEXTSTEP apps
(or PasteUp) are way off the back in this regard. Why not ask Quark
to document their file format and provide developer support for it,
if that's what you want to happen? That's not a terribly unreasonable
request. What is unreasonable is to say "please reverse-engineer Quark's
undocumented file format and support it". So they can change it and
you can complain that PasteUp is incompatible.
Whew. Sorry about all the flamage; I guess it's a "button" for me.
I've got to subclass my Button mechanism so it can't be pressed by this
point of view any more :-)
--
Glenn Reid glenn@rightbrain.com
Woodside, California
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 20 Feb 1994 23:06:07 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2k9bvf$6po@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.ada,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compliers Wanted
Date: 20 Feb 1994 23:22:24 -0500
Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences
Message-ID: <2k9cu0$qo1@schonberg.cs.nyu.edu>
References: <1994Feb21.022607.157645@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Someone is actively working on a GNAT port for Nextstep, and will no doubt
post here if and when the port succeeds!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Tar and MaNgLeD files
Message-ID: <1994Feb20.230850.8524@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 23:08:50 GMT
With GNU tar 1.10, some of the files I back have names that are too long.
These files are MaNgLeD. Thus when I untar the archive, these mangled
files are not place back in the directories, but are left in the current
directory, and have a file name that is MaNgLeD.
Is there a parameter that I am missing when I am tarring these files? Or,
when I restore them, is there no way, other then by hand to rename them,
and place them back in the correct directories?
All help is appreciated.
Thanks
Wes
--
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The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation)
8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: jbeda@macel.st.hmc.edu (Joe Beda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What exactly comes with the educational bundle
Date: 21 Feb 1994 06:54:39 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA
Message-ID: <2k9lrf$35l@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
I started out buying the 3.1 evaluation kit for intel. I played with this and
then found out about the educational bundle. I was able to call next and have
the (very nice) people there change my registration from the evaluation kit to
the educational bundle (they are about the same price). This got me the
upgrade to 3.2. The only problem is that I remember there being something
about Mathematic automatically coming with the educational stuff. Was this
just something that went on with 2.x for motorola or is it still happening.
Is there a CD or two that I should try and get from NeXT?
thanks, joe
--
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
| Joe Beda jbeda@hmc.edu (NeXT Mail)|
| "Bugs have feelers just like me" -- J Mascis |
| (909)621-8555x1378 Harvey Mudd College Atwood 201 |
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
<a href="http://macel.st.hmc.edu/~jbeda/jbeda.html">Moo!</a>
From: dave@softpac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DBKit Adaptor for Progress???
Date: 21 Feb 94 15:54:25
Organization: Softpac Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <dave.94Feb21155425@softpac>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Is there anyone out there that can advise if there is a DBKit adaptor for progress available or in the development phase???
Your assistance would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Rgds dave thomas
DownUnder
From: dave@softpac.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe font packs still available?
Date: 21 Feb 94 16:05:01
Organization: Softpac Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia
Message-ID: <dave.94Feb211651@softpac>
References: <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Subject: Adobe font packs still available?
From: georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng)
Organization: University of Toronto Computing & Communications
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 17:22:13 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Path: softpac.softpac.com.au!warrane.connect.com.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!MathWorks.Com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!utgpu!georgen
Lines: 10
Message-ID: <CL0qx3.4Ep@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
**** we have some in stock if you need.. for black..
Rgds dave thomas
Are Adobe font packages for the Next still available?
I'm specifically looking for the pack that contains ITC Avant Garde.
Also, is NextConnection still in business? I haven't seen their usual
ad in the latest edition of NextWorld magazine.
email replies preferred
thanks
gn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: How to append a signature automatically within Mail.app?
Message-ID: <CLK5xq.G6@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <CLItEM.8Jq@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 05:01:02 GMT
Stefano Unternaehrer writes
> The only way I know is to install an application called MailHelper,
> a service provider for NeXT Mail writted by Izumi Ohzawa
> (izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail)), Manuel Alberto Ricart and
> Misha Melikov (mmelikov@paget.com (Nextmail)).
you can also get TickleServices.app which helps let your add custom
services like this without cluttering your screen with
"helper" apps. get a copy from the ftp archives. its very useful.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor)
Subject: Librarian Won't Index FrameMaker Files
Message-ID: <CLJ1w6.BwL@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 14:36:05 GMT
I am running NS 3.2 (Black) and need to search through the contents of
FrameMaker documents for key words. After trying this unsuccessfully in
Digital Librarian, I perused the old NeXT Applications documentation (NS
2.0), to discover that, apparently, Librarian requires a special filter
for this. (It includes filters for ASCII and RTF).
Does anyone have such a filter? Has this changed any from 2.0 to 3.2? Is
there a better way to skin this cat?
Thanks in advance.
Bob O'Connor
boconnor@andi.org
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Weather.app? Where?
Date: 21 Feb 1994 09:30:18 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2k9uva$fqo@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2k573i$cfk@inxs.concert.net>
info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes:
> One of my customers has Weather.app (NeXT front-end) on their machines
> and I'd like to get it over the weekend for my personal use.
>
> Does ANYBODY know where it might be FTP'd from?
From site cs.orst.edu
directory pub/next/sources/wide-area-info
files Weather-1.1-* (source and MAB available)
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: schmolzi@zeus.theo-physik.uni-kiel.de (Klaus Schmoltzi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: backspace.app
Date: 21 Feb 1994 11:32:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Theoretical Physics, University of Kiel, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ka63n$r6e@solid.theo-physik.uni-kiel.de>
References: <2k3k1e$dek@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
You can also use your login password to change the 'backspace.app'
password.
ciao klaus
From: pom@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Touch app
Date: 21 Feb 1994 12:57:10 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <2kab36$se5@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
References: <1994Feb18.000401.15667@seer.demon.co.uk>
In article <1994Feb18.000401.15667@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk
(Paul Lynch) writes:
> It was on the last educational CDROM, I seem to recall.
>
Yes. It's really nice. But unfortunately quite unstable. Use the current
version of GatorFTP instead, it gives you almost the same functionality
(and more).
--
Klaus Pommerening
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation
der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet
D-55101 Mainz, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Where could you get Edu CD ??
Message-ID: <1994Feb21.132857.2047@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 13:28:57 GMT
where did all of you get these Educational CDs ? I'm pretty sure that we
are educational customers, and we were customers since 1991, and I don't
remember that we've received even one of those CDs nor an announcement.
Could somebody tell me a little bit about these CDs ? Is it worthwhile to
get them (it seems so, as there was at least DarkForest and Touch on it
;-), are they continued, and where can one subscribe ?
Thank you,
Gregor
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| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What exactly comes with the educational bundle
Date: 21 Feb 1994 13:48:52 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kae44$qmh@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2k9lrf$35l@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
In article <2k9lrf$35l@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> jbeda@macel.st.hmc.edu (Joe Beda)
writes:
> I started out buying the 3.1 evaluation kit for intel. I played with this
and
> then found out about the educational bundle. I was able to call next and
have
> the (very nice) people there change my registration from the evaluation kit
to
> the educational bundle (they are about the same price). This got me the
> upgrade to 3.2. The only problem is that I remember there being something
> about Mathematic automatically coming with the educational stuff. Was this
> just something that went on with 2.x for motorola or is it still happening.
> Is there a CD or two that I should try and get from NeXT?
>
Mathematica was bundled with NeXT hardware being sold through the higher
education channels, it has been unbundled and is being sold as a separate
product (roughly $1200.00).
Dave
--
Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice]
A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax]
NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: Touch app
Message-ID: <1994Feb21.140742.22637@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
Organization: University of Oulu
References: <2kab36$se5@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 14:07:42 GMT
In article <2kab36$se5@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
pom@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) writes:
> In article <1994Feb18.000401.15667@seer.demon.co.uk>
paul@seer.demon.co.uk
> (Paul Lynch) writes:
> > It was on the last educational CDROM, I seem to recall.
> >
> Yes. It's really nice. But unfortunately quite unstable. Use the current
> version of GatorFTP instead, it gives you almost the same functionality
> (and more).
The advantage of Touch is, I believe, that you can directly edit
a file on a remote system: when you save a file, the remote version
is altered. With FTP front-ends such as GatorFTP, you have to
consciously send the edited version to the remote site. (Correct
me if I'm wrong).
While this latter method is probably better for physically remote
sites, I wanted to use Touch on our local campus, for which saving
would be almost instantaneous. (Realy I want a substitute for NFS
for machines that I can't NFS mount onto my NeXT.) With Touch and
a remote login, programming the remote machine would be almost as
easy as programming my NeXT.
Stephen Perkins mentioned "alex". I haven't used alex, but from a
brief read of the README file, it seems to be designed for accessing
archive sites, i.e. for read-only access. Am I wrong? (alex also
has the problem that it can't easily be used with on a machine that
has NFS exports, as mine does.)
--
Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O
Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) |
The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk (Geoff Hopson)
Subject: NewsGrazer won't get new articles until restarted??
Message-ID: <1994Feb21.143220.1907@zoo.bt.co.uk>
Sender: news@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Laboratories, Ipswich, UK.
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 14:32:20 GMT
Please excuse my ignorance if this is a FAQ. Novice user alert!
I am running the NewsGrazer app (V75) on "white" hardware against an nntp
server running on a Sparc 1+. My machine is running as a pure NFS client - no
NetInfo etc. My problem is that, in order to get new articles, I have to quit
NewsGrazer and restart it. I have set the "Check new news frequency" to 15
minutes, still with no success.
I recall having to add "mailhost" to the domain I use as my NFS server in
order to get Mail.app to work. Is there a similar entry required to get nntp
to go? (I have tried nntphost & newshost, again with no success).
Thanks in advance,
Geoff Hopson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: No more Maple on NEXTSTEP !(?)
Message-ID: <1994Feb21.153509.6712@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 15:35:09 GMT
I just was told by our local campus consultant that Waterloo won't release
their Maple V Rel. 2 on NEXTSTEP! I'm really sorry about this because
Maple has indeed on some areas a much better reputation than Mathematica,
which is for now left as the only all-purpose CAP package for NEXTSTEP.
It's especially sad with respect to the release of NEXTSTEP for more
powerful machines as the HP's and the Sparc's.
I'll try to get information from Waterloo about reasons for the
abandonment of NEXTSTEP development.
Gregor
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| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
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From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Date: 21 Feb 1994 15:54:12 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kalf4$ppn@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <1994Feb17.114227.861@gamelan.uucp>
> It's standard on almost all unix boxes I know to use keys like
> left-arrow, page-up etc. for moving around. Even emacs can be configured
> like this. It's a shame that NeXT/Intel is back to the seventies when
> using Edit.
Sorry, but do you think you're in the nineties with arrow keys? Get real.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Roland Telfeyan Internet: roland@gomidas.mi.org
Gomidas Research UUCP: uunet!gomidas!roland
1697 Broadway, Suite 104 Phone: +1 313 761 9590
Ann Arbor, MI 48105-1865 Fax: +1 313 761 9890
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: Re: How to append a signature automatically within Mail.app?
Message-ID: <CLL05s.Jqs@athena.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: CTI, Universite Laval
References: <1994Feb18.115523.150@news.uminho.pt>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:53:52 GMT
In article <1994Feb18.115523.150@news.uminho.pt> jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge
Gustavo Rocha) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can someone out there, tell me how can I append a signature message within
> Mail.app?
Here is a simple answer, the following file is called sendmail-addheader:
==== cut here =======
#!/bin/sh
{
if test -r ${HOME}/.header; then cat ${HOME}/.header; fi
cat -
if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat
${HOME}/.mailsignature;
fi
}| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@"
# Place this in /usr/local/lib ( or whereever ) and use the expert
# preferences in tha mail app to change the mailer to
# /usr/local/lib/sendmail-addheader. My functional version does not
# have these comment included. If you have a problem, try deleting
# them. Zeke
# This solution courtesy of Carl Edman. You can also find it in
# the FAQ.misc Subject: M17 Thanks Carl!
==== cut here =======
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+-------------------------------------------------------+
| Antoine Gautier |
| Departement OSD, FSA |
| Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ |
| Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker)
Subject: GNU tar 1.11.2, long file names
Message-ID: <HUGH.94Feb21103433@hodain.ci.net>
Sender: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker)
Organization: JTA
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:34:33 GMT
I had been using GNU tar 1.11.1 which I compiled under NS 3.0 (maybe
3.1). Unfortunately this version doesn't preserve directory
ownerships on extractions done by root.
I grabbed the latest version, 1.11.2, which fixes this bug (from
prep.ai.mit.edu:pub/gnus/tar-1.11.2.tar.gz). But, I can't get this to
compile under NS 3.2, Motorola. A typedef'd variable is declared, and
the typedef itself appears in a conditional block of header code which
is only compiled if __MSDOS__ is defined (which thank goodness it
isn't :-). Too weird for me to pursue.
I've sent a bug report to the gnu folks.
In the meantime, has anyone figured out how to get GNU tar 1.11.2 to
compile correctly under NS 3.2 on Motorola hardware.
BTW, I am familiar with Installer.app/installer_bigtar which can
handle the long names. Unfortunately, this tar doesn't have the
option of not altering the access times of the files it puts into the
archive.
Thanks.
Hugh
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker)
Subject: Re: Tar and MaNgLeD files
In-Reply-To: jspears@weston.com's message of Sun, 20 Feb 1994 23:08:50 GMT
Message-ID: <HUGH.94Feb21105305@hodain.ci.net>
Sender: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker)
Organization: JTA
References: <1994Feb20.230850.8524@weston.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:53:05 GMT
jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes:
With GNU tar 1.10, some of the files I back have names that are too long.
These files are MaNgLeD. Thus when I untar the archive, these mangled
files are not place back in the directories, but are left in the current
directory, and have a file name that is MaNgLeD.
Is there a parameter that I am missing when I am tarring these files? Or,
when I restore them, is there no way, other then by hand to rename them,
and place them back in the correct directories?
The executable /NextAdmin/Installer.app/installer_bigtar can handle
long names. It doesn't appear to be able to handle GNU tarfile
format, so it's only useful for creating and extracting tarfiles on
NEXTSTEP systems.
Hugh
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: GIF89 (with alpha?) on a NeXT
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb21172836@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Date: 21 Feb 1994 17:28:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: I speak for myself
Now that I've got a working Mosaic, I'm starting to make pages all over
the place, but would like to have some of my inline images transparent,
that is, if I scan a circle of some sort, say a Compact Disc, I get
a square image; not what I want as a inline image. Instead, I'd like
to have just the disc shape...
SOOO, how can I do that on a NeXT? Insofar as I can tell, Mosaic only
understands xbm and gif format, including gif89, which has some
transparancy...what do I need in order to do what I want? I own
Appsoft Image, TIFFany, and a few other graphics type programs, but can't
tell how they would help...if in fact they can.
Many thanks,
Scott
--
EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
"A wasted youth is better by far than a wise and productive old age"
"In another novel, I *am* you"
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No more Maple on NEXTSTEP !(?)
Date: 21 Feb 1994 18:30:37 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2kaukd$238@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <1994Feb21.153509.6712@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
As it turns out Mma was bundled with NeXTStep on academic 040 platforms,
and Wolfram accepts transfer licenses for $120 from an 040 to an Intel
platform. An academic can buy a used 040 Mma license for about $100 (I
think), upgrade it, and have a <$250 total NeXTStep Mma license on Intel.
So, to be competitive for a wide academic audience, Maple is just too
expensive. Yes, I do like Maple for specialty items, too, but not enough
to shell out yet another >$500.
To be widely appealing, Maple would have to cost $300---and this would
mess up their relative pricing across platforms.
/ivo welch
In article <1994Feb21.153509.6712@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> I just was told by our local campus consultant that Waterloo won't
release
> their Maple V Rel. 2 on NEXTSTEP! I'm really sorry about this because
> Maple has indeed on some areas a much better reputation than
Mathematica,
> which is for now left as the only all-purpose CAP package for NEXTSTEP.
> It's especially sad with respect to the release of NEXTSTEP for more
> powerful machines as the HP's and the Sparc's.
>
> I'll try to get information from Waterloo about reasons for the
> abandonment of NEXTSTEP development.
>
> Gregor
>
> --
> | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT |
> | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
> | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
> | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
--
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Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Oracle 6.0 for Black for Sale
Date: 21 Feb 1994 18:51:41 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kavrt$2gk@inxs.concert.net>
Not being a programmer/database type, the disks, manuals will go to the first
interested party who would pay $300, including shipping.
REPLY by EMAIL
--
Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice]
A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax]
NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stuck loginwindow screen saver
Date: 21 Feb 1994 19:05:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kb0lh$pmk@agate.berkeley.edu>
On three of our machines, screen saver of loginwindow gets stuck
in the save mode. Mouse clicks or keyboard events do not restore
the screen. We can login if we type login and password correctly
blindly (processes are running as confirmed via rlogin from another
machine). However, the screen remains mostly black with NeXT's logo
and the hostname.
It is hard to duplicate this as it happens maybe once or twice
a week, but definitely happens. This is on Black 040 with 3.2.
Has anybody seen this happen? Any fix?
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: mwa@ife.ee.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tar and MaNgLeD files
Date: 21 Feb 1994 18:58:25 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Elektronik, ETH Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <2kb08h$5hl@elna.ethz.ch>
References: <1994Feb20.230850.8524@weston.com> <HUGH.94Feb21105305@hodain.ci.net>
In article <HUGH.94Feb21105305@hodain.ci.net>,
Hugh Secker-Walker <hugh@ear.mit.edu> wrote:
>The executable /NextAdmin/Installer.app/installer_bigtar can handle
>long names.
Don't use it, it uses a proprietary, undocumented format and as far as
I know it can't handle file names longer than 200 chars, whereas GNU
tar is (almost?) unlimited in name length.
To the question of the original poster, unpacking it with GNU tar
again should automatically rename these ././@@MaNgLeD files as soon as
it unpacks ././@@MaNgLeD_NaMeS. The latter file consists of lines of
the format 'rename <mangled name> to <full name>' where special
characters are replaced by their octal code (this is all from memory,
so it might be somewhat different than described).
-Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: English dictionnary management
Message-ID: <CLLAEI.Hp@athena.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: CTI, Universite Laval
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 19:35:05 GMT
Hi world,
Is there a way, other than edit's brute force, to edit and otherwise manage the
dictionnaries in ./NeXT/dictionnaries? (add words, sort, add lists of
words,...)
Thks!
---
+-------------------------------------------------------+
| Antoine Gautier |
| Departement OSD, FSA |
| Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ |
| Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca |
+-------------------------------------------------------+
From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: edit color of postscript documents
Date: 21 Feb 1994 20:08:32 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kb4c0$3rj@news.nd.edu>
I'm trying to put together a presentation in Concurrence,
and I'm having problems with imported postscript files.
I want to use a blue background and white or yellow text
in Concurrence. This works for text that has been typed
in Concurrence, but when I drag some TeX equations or
figures that are .eps or .ps files, I can't change the
color of the TeX text or the line art. I tried the
Tailor.app (demo version), and it wouldn't import the
TeX equations. There was an error with the fonts. I
could change my figure colors with Tailor, but since the
TeX stuff never made it into Tailor, I'm still short of
my goal (and I really can't afford $250US to buy Tailor
anyhow). Does anyone have any ideas on what applications
to try?
-george
George B. Ross_____NeXTmail welcome_________gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu
Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering_______University of Notre Dame
Control: cancel <1994Feb21.171709.25837@altsys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: cmsg cancel <1994Feb21.171709.25837@altsys.com>
Message-ID: <1994Feb21.171817.25901@altsys.com>
Sender: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1994Feb21.171709.25837@altsys.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:18:17 GMT
<1994Feb21.171709.25837@altsys.com> was cancelled from within trn.
--
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NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Frame to rtfd
Message-ID: <1994Feb21.171952.25984@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:19:52 GMT
I want to convert some Frame documents to rtfd format so I can include
the Virtuoso documentation on line with the next NeXT release. Anyone
out there know of a solution? Many thanks in advance!
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC in full-screen mode on ATI ULTRA PRO
Date: 21 Feb 1994 14:57:31 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402212010.AA00262@hurka>
Hi All,
does anybody succeeded to run SoftPC in full-screen mode on ATI ULTRA PRO?
We tied it on Gateway 4DX2-66V with ATI (rev. 3) and 2 MB VRAM without
success.
Thank you.
Tomas Hurka
P.S. If this is a FAQ, I am sorry, but hadn't access to the news last two
months or so.
Newsgroups: alt.games.doom,comp.sys.next.software
From: Goetz.von-Escher@open.ch (Goetz von Escher)
Subject: Wad Files for Doom under NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CLLEzB.Ln8@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 21:13:58 GMT
Some people mentionned that you can copy the wad files from the PC version
and use them under NEXTSTEP. I downloaded 'doom1_2.zip' - there are no .wad
files in this distribution...
So, where do I get the wad files?
--
Goetz von Escher email: Goetz.von-Escher@Open.CH
Open Systems AG voice: +41 (61) 262-0505
Basel, Switzerland FAX: +41 (61) 262-0510
From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC in full-screen mode on ATI ULTRA PRO
Date: 21 Feb 1994 21:49:22 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kba92INNse2@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
References: <9402212010.AA00262@hurka>
In article <9402212010.AA00262@hurka> tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) writes:
> Hi All,
> does anybody succeeded to run SoftPC in full-screen mode on ATI ULTRA PRO?
> We tied it on Gateway 4DX2-66V with ATI (rev. 3) and 2 MB VRAM without
> success.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Tomas Hurka
>
> P.S. If this is a FAQ, I am sorry, but hadn't access to the news last two
> months or so.
-----
Yes, I had this problem. The solution was:
Open Configure.app and delete the driver info. for the ATI. Then add
it back *without changing any settings.* Now, be sure to not reboot
in between deleting the driver info and putting it back... do it in one
session and then reboot.
It worked for me.
William
Sysadmin. / Emory U. Public NeXT Network
Consult. / Emory U. ITD
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tcsh --where??? AND line-completion in tcsh --HOW?
Date: 21 Feb 1994 21:46:30 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2kba3m$3b7@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
I just upgraded to 3.2 and lost my tcsh. Where might I find it?
Also, last time I had tcsh, the NeXT cc did some fancyfootwork to provide
me with line-completions via the tab character. How might I get this
facility again?
Sincerely,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Goetz.von-Escher@open.ch (Goetz von Escher)
Subject: Re: HTML
Message-ID: <CLLGpt.H3@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
References: <1994Feb19.033101.5485@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 21:51:28 GMT
In article <1994Feb19.033101.5485@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> raptor!rlove (Robert B.
Love ) writes:
> Given that I don't have Mosiac is there a NeXT app that will read/display
> HTML files? Can I just ftp to a site and grab the file.html, bring it
> back and read it.
>
> I'm asking because somebody told me the info I wanted was available as a
> html and I really don't know much about it.
Well, some people in germany are writing a HTML editor. I don't know
when it will be released. For the time being I use lynx which is a text
based interface to the WWW. It displays HTML documents in a terminal. Also
it lets you switch between the real HTML document and the WYSIWYG doc.
Unfortunately lynx uses curses for the display and not all fomtstyles are
supported under NEXTSTEP. I hacked lynx to support ncurses so I can see
the references as light characters.
SOURCES:
lynx: ftp2.cc.ukans.edu/pub/lynx/lynx2-1.tar.Z
ncurses: V1.8 for linux patched for NEXTSTEP by Thomas
Funke <thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
--
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Open Systems AG voice: +41 (61) 262-0505
Basel, Switzerland FAX: +41 (61) 262-0510
From: spb@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Steven Berry)
Newsgroups: alt.games.doom,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wad Files for Doom under NEXTSTEP
Followup-To: alt.games.doom,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 22 Feb 1994 00:15:37 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <2kbira$kmc@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <CLLEzB.Ln8@eunet.ch>
Goetz von Escher (Goetz.von-Escher@open.ch) wrote:
: Some people mentionned that you can copy the wad files from the PC version
: and use them under NEXTSTEP. I downloaded 'doom1_2.zip' - there are no .wad
: files in this distribution...
: So, where do I get the wad files?
: --
: Goetz von Escher email: Goetz.von-Escher@Open.CH
: Open Systems AG voice: +41 (61) 262-0505
: Basel, Switzerland FAX: +41 (61) 262-0510
Actually, you need the commercial version, which you can order from ID.
doom1_2.zip is just the shareware DOS version and contains no more than
the NeXT version does (except you get sound on a DOS box). The .wad file is
created during the installation and therefore is not extractable directly
from the .zip file.
Steve
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tar and MaNgLeD files
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 20:03:53 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <YhOJbtq00iV8A=px5K@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Feb20.230850.8524@weston.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 20-Feb-94 Tar and MaNgLeD
files by Wes Spears@weston.com
> With GNU tar 1.10, some of the files I back have names that are too long.
> These files are MaNgLeD. Thus when I untar the archive, these mangled
> files are not place back in the directories, but are left in the current
> directory, and have a file name that is MaNgLeD.
>
> Is there a parameter that I am missing when I am tarring these files?
Or, > when I restore them, is there no way, other then by hand to
rename them,
> and place them back in the correct directories?
You probably didn't wait long enough. GNU tar renames these files and
moves them to the correct places *after* it extracts everything from the
.tar archive. Try again, and simply wait until GNU tar finishes!
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 20:05:00 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <EhOJcwu00iV8Q=pxgR@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Feb17.114227.861@gamelan.uucp>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Feb-94 Re: Lack of
basic edit cont.. by Thomas Funke@zelator.de
> It's standard on almost all unix boxes I know to use keys like
> left-arrow, page-up etc. for moving around. Even emacs can be configured
> like this. It's a shame that NeXT/Intel is back to the seventies when
> using Edit.
Using the emacs control key sequences is substantially faster than
moving your hands over to the arrow keys and the
PageUp/PageDown/Home/End cluster. Perform the timings yourself if you
don't believe me!
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker)
Subject: Re: GNU tar 1.11.2, long file names
Message-ID: <HUGH.94Feb21211042@hodain.ci.net>
Sender: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker)
Organization: JTA
References: <HUGH.94Feb21103433@hodain.ci.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 02:10:42 GMT
I wrote:
In the meantime, has anyone figured out how to get GNU tar 1.11.2 to
compile correctly under NS 3.2 on Motorola hardware.
Ack, NS 3.2 /usr/bin/gnutar is GNU tar 1.11.2. Thanks to several
folks who gently pointed this out. It is still disturbing that the
GNU distribution doesn't compile out of the box.
Hugh
--
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Perceptual Acoustics | hugh@ear.mit.edu
From: bohlkejh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jon H. Bohlke II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: xv 3.0a on archives
Date: 22 Feb 1994 04:37:55 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2kc273$ms7@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Hi,
I just put xv 3.0a on the archives. Its is black only and is compiled with
X11R5. If you want me to upload the source (modifications) email me.
--
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"This gnaws at my gut like a Billy Tubbs post-game interview."
- Michael Lerner
GO HUSKERS!!!!!!
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Newsgroups: alt.games.doom,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wad Files for Doom under NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Feb21.224029.11616@edinboro.edu>
From: j681528n@edinboro.edu
Date: 21 Feb 94 22:40:29 EST
References: <CLLEzB.Ln8@eunet.ch>
Organization: Edinboro University of PA
Summary: seeking DOOM help
Is there anything a poor fellow with a dumpy 386 can do to
in any way speed up my poor little DOOM?
(Besides getting a 486)
Thank you
Jake
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: Re: No more Maple on NEXTSTEP !(?)
Message-ID: <1994Feb22.061104.14415@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis
References: <1994Feb21.153509.6712@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <2kaukd$238@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 06:11:04 GMT
In article <2kaukd$238@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
>
>As it turns out Mma was bundled with NeXTStep on academic 040 platforms,
>and Wolfram accepts transfer licenses for $120 from an 040 to an Intel
>platform. An academic can buy a used 040 Mma license for about $100 (I
>think), upgrade it, and have a <$250 total NeXTStep Mma license on Intel.
>
>So, to be competitive for a wide academic audience, Maple is just too
>expensive. Yes, I do like Maple for specialty items, too, but not enough
>to shell out yet another >$500.
>
>To be widely appealing, Maple would have to cost $300---and this would
>mess up their relative pricing across platforms.
>
>/ivo welch
>
Maple has been selling for PC, Mac and NeXT for $395 for the past couple
months, which is much better. I had heard that they were selling more that
way too. What is wrong with Maple for NS/I selling for the price of the
Windows version? NS/Black would logically then be the same price as well.
Hope they reconsider.
>
>Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
>Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
>AGSM at UCLA
Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: No more Maple on NEXTSTEP !(?)
Message-ID: <CLM6pJ.7nx@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <1994Feb21.153509.6712@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <2kaukd$238@news.mic.ucla.edu> <1994Feb22.061104.14415@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 07:12:55 GMT
In article <1994Feb22.061104.14415@wuphys.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes:
[ ]
>Maple has been selling for PC, Mac and NeXT for $395 for the past couple
>months, which is much better. I had heard that they were selling more that
>way too. What is wrong with Maple for NS/I selling for the price of the
>Windows version? NS/Black would logically then be the same price as well.
>Hope they reconsider.
Reconsider? Has Waterloo officially said anything? I'd be surprised if it
didn't appear.
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: alxeia@u.washington.edu (Alxeia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FAQ for NEXT.software?
Date: 22 Feb 1994 07:41:12 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Message-ID: <2kccuo$ej8@news.u.washington.edu>
Where is there a FAQ for this newsgroup? I have some simple
questions, like: Does it run windows apps? How good? are their any
architectural drawings of the o/s out there? SO I'd like to read the FAQ,
please point me in the right direction, or e-mail me at:
Maulf@halcyon.com
Matt T
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica (was: What exactly comes with the educational bundle)
Date: 22 Feb 1994 07:47:02 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kcd9m$69r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2kae44$qmh@inxs.concert.net>
In article <2kae44$qmh@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm
Shift, Inc.) writes:
> > The only problem is that I remember there being something
> > about Mathematic automatically coming with the
> > educational stuff. Was this just something that went on
> > with 2.x for motorola or is it still happening. Is there a
> > CD or two that I should try and get from NeXT?
> Mathematica was bundled with NeXT hardware being sold
> through the higher education channels, it has been
> unbundled and is being sold as a separate product
> (roughly $1200.00).>
Last I heard, the educational price on Mathematica for NextStep was $400.
This is still high, but at least it's not $1200. I have mathematica
2.0.1, but it came bundled when I bought my black hardware. Too bad they
don't still do that.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is continually crashing!
Date: 21 Feb 1994 16:21:17 -0800
Organization: runner
Sender: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kbj5t$3dh@runner.uucp>
References: <2k89mh$9ht@inxs.concert.net>
In article <2k89mh$9ht@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift,
> I have it on Motorola running 3.2 with 28MB and the only condition under
which
> it crashes is when I am catching up on a newsgroup with lots of unread
articles
> as well
I am running NewsGrazer (v75) on a Motorola, 3.2 w/32Mb. Version 75 crashes
often. NewsGrazer (v72.3) is much more stable.
--
Richard
richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
(ok to send NeXT Mail)
From: wscomalo@bs.win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Date: 22 Feb 1994 09:21:36 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <2kcir0$brr@svin01.win.tue.nl>
References: <EhOJcwu00iV8Q=pxgR@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <EhOJcwu00iV8Q=pxgR@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
> Using the emacs control key sequences is substantially faster than
> moving your hands over to the arrow keys and the
> PageUp/PageDown/Home/End cluster. Perform the timings yourself if you
> don't believe me!
>
> -Chuck
Only if you have to type a lot of material very fast, the speed of typing
is that important. Some people are more interested in having an interface
that is intuitive and easy to remember, and prefer caret movement keys
that do not interfere with the standard text keys. Otherwise, there would
be no need to have the arrow keys or the delete key. NeXTSTeP is
inconsistent in this sense, and I would welcome the possibility to choose
your own key bindings. Note that most standard word processors also use
these special keys. Wordstar type keys are really obsolete now.
__________________________________________________
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Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Eindhoven University of Technology
P.O. Box 513
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From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Request for comments on VirtSpace under NSI 3.2
Date: 22 Feb 1994 11:37:56 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kcqqk$bka@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Does anyone have any experience with Pinnacle Researches VirtSpace
under NSI 3.2? I am considering buying this and would greatly
appreciate any reviews of the product. Thanks.
(please don't send me Nextmail)
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (Winfried Ritsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No more Maple on NEXTSTEP !(?)
Date: 22 Feb 1994 11:50:18 GMT
Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <2kcrhqINN5ad@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
Keywords: Maple, Mathematica
(Because I got a buildaddr-error:user unknown from your host, I post it
here)
In comp.sys.next.software article <2kaukd$238@news.mic.ucla.edu> you wrote:
[...]
> As it turns out Mma was bundled with NeXTStep on academic 040 platforms,
> and Wolfram accepts transfer licenses for $120 from an 040 to an Intel
> platform. An academic can buy a used 040 Mma license for about $100 (I
> think), upgrade it, and have a <$250 total NeXTStep Mma license on Intel.
[...]
Thats great, where can I
get this, because the official Educational PriceLists are US$1.200.- for a single machine
mfg Winfried Ritsch
academic 040 platforms,
> and Wolfram accepts transfer licenses for $120 from an 040 to an Intel
> platform. An academic can buy a used 040 Mma license for about $100 (I
> think), upgrade it, and have a <$250 total NeXTStep Mma license on Intel.
[...]
Thats great, where can I...
or is my Dat Drive broken.
Please Help wini
From: haibach@monte.chem.brown.edu (F. Haibach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mathematica (was: What exactly comes with the educational bundle)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 22 Feb 1994 14:27:26 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <haibach-220294091553@dollmac.chem.brown.edu>
References: <2kae44$qmh@inxs.concert.net> <2kcd9m$69r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2kcd9m$69r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>, takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd
Takken) wrote:
> In article <2kae44$qmh@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm
> Shift, Inc.) writes:
>
> > > The only problem is that I remember there being something
> > > about Mathematic automatically coming with the
> > > educational stuff. Was this just something that went on
> > > with 2.x for motorola or is it still happening. Is there a
> > > CD or two that I should try and get from NeXT?
>
> > Mathematica was bundled with NeXT hardware being sold
> > through the higher education channels, it has been
> > unbundled and is being sold as a separate product
> > (roughly $1200.00).>
>
> Last I heard, the educational price on Mathematica for NextStep was $400.
> This is still high, but at least it's not $1200. I have mathematica
> 2.0.1, but it came bundled when I bought my black hardware. Too bad they
> don't still do that.
>
As a matter of fact the inclusion of Mathematica in the educational bundle
was NeXT policy, but the reseller was actually responsible for
implementation. I discovered that my black hardware was supposed to have
Math... 2.0.1 bundled with it. After set up and taking off time to go
downtown (Birmingham, AL) I got my purportedly "most recent" copy of Math.
Went to the bookstore a few days later to order a manual for Math and found
out that ver 2 was out. By the time I got around to calling the reseller
to request the new version, they had dropped NeXT (with about 90 unsold
NeXTstations in stock) only 6 weeks later. NeXT and Wolfram would have
nothing to do with me.
C'est la vie, n'est pas?
FgH...
In real life: Heck, a life? I'm a grad student now!
email: Fred_Haibach@brown.edu
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP for NSI?
Date: 22 Feb 1994 15:16:59 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kd7lb$q4f@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I'm looking for SLIP for NSI 3.2. On cs.orst.edu there is a slip package
by TranSys, SLIP_920904, but there is no mention of Intel platform
in the Readme files. Will the TranSys package work under NSI?
If not, can someone tell me if there is a SLIP package
that will? Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES ==> fails in 3.2???
Date: 22 Feb 1994 15:25:58 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2kd866$l57@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
It doesn't seem to do anything for me anymore. What's the
replacement?
--
Sincerely,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: edit color of postscript documents
Date: 22 Feb 1994 15:11:10 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kd7ae$qs8@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2kb4c0$3rj@news.nd.edu>
George B. Ross writes
[]I'm trying to put together a presentation in Concurrence,
[]and I'm having problems with imported postscript files.
[]I want to use a blue background and white or yellow text
[]in Concurrence. This works for text that has been typed
[]in Concurrence, but when I drag some TeX equations or
[]figures that are .eps or .ps files, I can't change the
[]color of the TeX text or the line art. I tried the
[]Tailor.app (demo version), and it wouldn't import the
[]TeX equations. There was an error with the fonts. I
[]could change my figure colors with Tailor, but since the
[]TeX stuff never made it into Tailor, I'm still short of
[]my goal (and I really can't afford $250US to buy Tailor
[]anyhow). Does anyone have any ideas on what applications
[]to try?
[]
Well, as far as the TeX goes, you could just make it in the proper color in
the first place (It is unclear to me from your post whether you are making
the TeX in color or not). For all versions of NeXT-TeX since dvips 5.480
(or thereabouts) came out, there is full support for color in your
documents. The exact implementation varies depending on exactly which
version you are using (I think it did not stabilize until NeXT-TeX 3.0) but
if you are running NT 3.0 look in
/usr/lib/tex/inputs/colordvi.(tex, sty)
for information. Basically, you just input the appropriate file, type
\Red{This will be text in Pantone Red}
and you are off and running. Colors can be nested infinitely deep, works in
math mode, etc.
I do think you will have to figure out these color issues BEFORE dropping
things into concurrence though. Being able to edit color after the fact
woudl be great, but most apps do not support it, and Tailor does not work
with the TeX fonts (I'm told).
Hope this is helpful --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica Pricing
Date: 22 Feb 1994 15:43:52 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kd97o$jn0@inxs.concert.net>
References: <haibach-220294091553@dollmac.chem.brown.edu>
Mathematica pricing is as follows:
Commercial Pricing (single-user): $1245.00
Educational Pricing (single-user): $ 995.00
They also have floating licenses:
Commerical Pricing: $1795.00
Educational Pricing: $1245.00
EMAIL for more information.
Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Good News: Maple/NS lives!
Message-ID: <1994Feb22.162437.27704@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 16:24:37 GMT
To my former posting I got two replies, one of them from I person that
should know ;-). They told me that development of Maple V Rel. 2 for
NEXTSTEP is by no ways cancelled. I'm sorry that I told you something
wrong.
On the other hand, I'm happy that what I told you was wrong. Maple for
NEXTSTEP lives!
Gregor
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From: Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: make_services: how to call it manually
Date: 22 Feb 1994 16:30:16 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2kdbuo$m72@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
how can i do manually a make_services. whenever i add a new disk (cd) to the
system i would like to redo the services to include the ones from the new disk
version2.1 of neststep simply allowed to do this by calling the command
make_services from a shell
matthias
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: olebv@dhhalden.no (OLE BREDESEN-VESTBY)
Subject: SoundBlaster 16 driver
Message-ID: <olebv.18.2D6A2AE2@dhhalden.no>
Sender: news@dhhalden.no (Network News User)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:55:14 GMT
Hi!
Does anyone know where I can find a SoundBlaster 16 driver for
NeXTSTEP 3.0/3.2, if there are one.
Thanks.....
-Ole Bredesen-Vestby
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is Blue Rose Systems still alive?
Date: 22 Feb 1994 13:26:30 -0500
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <2kdiom$o2t@dorito.cs.umd.edu>
Is Blue Rose Systems still alive? I've been trying to contact them since
last week, but I keep getting their answering machine. If not, is
there another inexpensive SQL server like RoseBase? Thanks, Ross.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: tgall@oliverwjones.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP for NSI?
Date: 22 Feb 1994 19:06:13 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Distribution: world
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References: <2kd7lb$q4f@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2kd7lb$q4f@netnews.upenn.edu>, joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) writes:
|>
|> Hi,
|>
|> I'm looking for SLIP for NSI 3.2. On cs.orst.edu there is a slip package
|> by TranSys, SLIP_920904, but there is no mention of Intel platform
|> in the Readme files. Will the TranSys package work under NSI?
|> If not, can someone tell me if there is a SLIP package
|> that will? Thanks.
|>
|> Joe Panico
|> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
|>
There is indeed. However it's a beta. It's the TransSys Beta 1.7 (I THINK it was called. something along that line ... it was in the comm directory I seem to remember)
A word to the wise. It's a beta AND the docs are very spotty. If you are new to SLIP, I'd hang back for a couple months. (That's what I'm doing. I got mine setup, but couldn't get much farther. )
Best of luck,
Tom
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From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next, dd, and mac disk images
Date: 22 Feb 1994 21:09:52 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kdsb0$itk@network.ucsd.edu>
Hi Folks!
Does anyone know if it's possible to reconstitute macintosh disk images
produced by the mac DiskCopy program on a Next (3.2, black)? I had in
mind some sort of technique for prepping the disk image file for use in
writing to the raw floppy device using dd. Any ideas?
--
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alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
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expressed by anyone at any time.
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mailing address for Pinnacle Research?
Date: 22 Feb 1994 21:50:33 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kdun9$p15@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Could someone please give me the current MAILING address
for Pinnacle Research Inc. (producers of VirtSpace).
Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: Re: Good News: Maple/NS lives!
Message-ID: <1994Feb22.220824.20301@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis
References: <1994Feb22.162437.27704@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:08:24 GMT
In article <1994Feb22.162437.27704@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
>To my former posting I got two replies, one of them from I person that
>should know ;-). They told me that development of Maple V Rel. 2 for
>NEXTSTEP is by no ways cancelled. I'm sorry that I told you something
>wrong.
>
>On the other hand, I'm happy that what I told you was wrong. Maple for
>NEXTSTEP lives!
>
> Gregor
>
>--
>| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT |
>| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
>| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
>| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
I also breath a sigh of relief! I was counting on Maple 2.0 being around for
the NeXT. You had me scared for awhile. (I will be using it in a class,
mostly on PCs, but I have a NeXT myself. I would hate to have to abandon my
beloved NEXTSTEP to prepare my presentations.)
--Don
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3DReality users?
Date: 22 Feb 1994 08:21:41 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22082141@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
I would be interested in hearing from other users of 3DReality to find out
any tips, tricks, hints and so on they may have...Possibly to even setup
a mailing list or public archive of shaders, textures and so on..
If you think you can help, drop me a line.
Thanks
Scott
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From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: XV3.0
Date: 22 Feb 1994 08:45:39 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22084539@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
References: <CLE46z.6I0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
In-reply-to: irogers@variations.music.indiana.edu's message of Thu, 17 Feb 1994 22:37:47 GMT
> Has anyone compiled XV3.0 on black hardware?
> If so, could I have the changes necessary to make the thing work?
I have xv3.0 compiled and workingish on Black...the only problem seems that
it doesn't like the tiff or jpeg images, regardless of whether or not
libtiff or libjpeg have been installed.
If you are using X and you wish to display an image, I reccomend ImageMagick,
the latest version is I think 2.3.2. and I compiled it without too many
headaches two days ago. It works with jpeg (SLOW) and tiff, and of course
all the usual bitmap stuff.
I've been told that in conjunction with netbmp you should be able to do
just about every form of conversion that exists. Mind you, it would be
easier if it Just Worked for the NeXTSTEP environment.
Scott
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From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic & Mouse-X
Date: 22 Feb 1994 08:56:29 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22085629@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
References: <2k816i$15d@olorin.dark.sub.org>
In-reply-to: thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org's message of 20 Feb 1994 16:56:02 +0100
In article <2k816i$15d@olorin.dark.sub.org> thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org (Thomas Fischer) writes:
> Has anyone managed to run Mosaic 2.2 with Mouse-X ?!?
I may be wrong in saying this, but having gotten Mosaic 2.2 working under
CubX it could be that the changes I made would hold true for Mouse-X...
basically what I did was:
1) run xdpyinfo -- this produces an output telling you the various display
characteristics of your X server, including its visual class and rgb masks...
2) Whatever visual class you are, for example, mine is usually StaticColor,
change the occurance of TrueColor in HTMLimages.c and I think picread.c to
that value...this may be risky on Mouse-X, all I know is that it works for
CubX.. I'm no programmer, but I think what one is doing is telling Mosaic
to check to see if your visual class is correct, and since you mucked with
the code to check to see if it was what it definately is, it won't find an
error.
3) Find the default mask values, I think in HTMLimages.c and pixmaps.c, in
both cases under the case:16 (16 bit display) area...the masks in my case
became 0x0f00, 0x00f0 and 0x000f, taken from the xpdyinfo line:
red, green, blue masks: 0xf00, 0xf0, 0xf
4) Also in pixmaps.c, modify what I think are the initial values for pixels
of a certain colour to read 4,8,12 instead of 1,6,11 -- this guarantees that
bitmappings, such as the Icon for Mosaic, are displayed in their correct
colours.
I really have *no* idea if these modifications will work on anything else,
but my intuition tells me it will....but hey, I can hardly write a hello
world program so don't believe everything you read.
Scott
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Subject: lt sullivan and frame
Message-ID: <1994Feb22.225331.104240@yuma>
Date: 22 Feb 94 22:53:30 GMT
in the march nextworld, lt. sullivan says that frame is coming back into the
fold. let's hope that it's true. frame, i will buy half a dozen licenses at a
price that will make you smile.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mehta-anand@yale.edu
Subject: Re: Mathematica Pricing
Message-ID: <1994Feb22.195019.8157@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
References: <2kd97o$jn0@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 19:50:19 GMT
In article <2kd97o$jn0@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm
Shift, Inc.) writes:
> Mathematica pricing is as follows:
>
> Commercial Pricing (single-user): $1245.00
> Educational Pricing (single-user): $ 995.00
>
> They also have floating licenses:
>
> Commerical Pricing: $1795.00
> Educational Pricing: $1245.00
Unless your institution has arranged for different pricing with Wolfram.
Yale sells copies for Mathematica Windows at $330. I believe that is
quite a bit off the standard Wolfram pricing (which used to be ~$795 if
memory serves).
I don't know if this is the case with Mathematica NextStep, but it's worth
a look.
-Anand
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: File format interoperability (was: Re: Don't hold your breath for Frame/NS (was: Re: It's here!!! FrameMaker 4.0 MAB for NEXTSTEP !!!!))
Date: 21 Feb 94 23:45:46 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.761874346@uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Feb20.015334.1135@afs.com> <1491@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
A lot of this is pretty much moot since RightBrain doesn't control the
product anymore, so I'll limit my responses to stuff that can be done
now.
Glenn Reid writes:
>We (RightBrain) never addressed it, but it's totally unfair, [...]
It helps to address these issues, lest they reflect poorly on your
product by being seen as shortcomings.
>one of which is that Quark jealously guards their file format and
>refuses to document it. But until PageMaker, Ventura Publish,
>FrameMaker, or any of the other products can do it, it seems
>unreasonable to demand it from a small product such as PasteUp.
I would have bought the undocumented feature as a reason, I don't
think anyone (except for the most extreme circumstances) should have
to reverse-engineer something just to learn that later they'll change
something significant thereby 'pulling the rug out from under' your
support. Who knows, the larger developer might change the file format
*just so* other developers can't use the files.
>Do you also flame in comp.text.desktop about PageMaker and FrameMaker
>not having file interchange with other products?
No, because PageMaker, Ventura Publish and Quark are more popular than
PasteUp. I have written asking about file format interoperability,
though. These formats, unlike PasteUp's, have become standards. I
have a much better chance of taking my PageMaker document, for
example, and successfully reading on another's machine because they
might run PageMaker. NS machines and PasteUp on NS machines aren't
that popular, thus making a problem if I have only a PasteUp file.
About FrameMaker: they have a format that is known to other people (as
Reid addresses), and Frame/Mac also imports MS Word files (perhaps
other Frame ports as well, but I wasn't able to get Frame/NS to do
this).
>I never defended that as being the right thing, it's just the way it
>is, and we weren't in a position to change that all by our little ol'
>selves.
I think there are things that all the small developers can do to help
change that all by themselves or with the help of users, just as I
think there are things that the larger developers can do.
These include:
* using a documented file format instead of a proprietary format of
your own. This would help future startup DTP and wordprocessor
developers avoid the Catch-22 of file format support.
* taking a profit hit and put the work into developing some i/o
filters for the foreign formats that are documented, gambling that
consumers will notice this and adopt your product instead of the
large-developer's product. This is a long-shot, but it's an option.
Even if the file formats can't handle all that your program can do, it
shows that your company wants to work with other users in their
established environments. It helps you get a foot in the door to
places that might otherwise look at your product and pass it up.
* publishing your file format(s) (if you must go with a proprietary
one) so that other developers (large and small) can use them in i/o
filters, perhaps even adopting your as their own. Publishing these
documents could include placing them on anonymous FTP sites and/or
asking a small charge for a hardcopy. Small developers need to go the
extra distance to make it easy for large developers to notice them.
The large developers are not required to pay any attention to small
developers and they'll probably continue to operate just fine if yet
another NS company goes out of business.
* some combination of the above (e.g., petitioning large-developers to
support a widely known format *and* using a widely known format so the
large developer is supporting your documents as well).
Getting the larger developers to do them takes some work on
the part of the customer who wants interchange between the small and
large products. I suspect that given most any choice between simply
using a big-name product and putting in time and effort to petition
large developers for adopting smaller developer's file formats, only a
small number of users would choose the latter.
>It's not the same thing. I personally got very tired of J.B.'s
>insistence that NEXTSTEP apps were "not acceptable" because they
>didn't do things like import Quark files, but that *IS* THE SAME
>STANDARD AS OTHER OS PLATFORMS. That is, nobody else does it,
>either.
But, like I said, they're in a position of not having these problems
to begin with because they create/support/dictate the file standards
with which people work, so it's not really the same situation on other
OS platforms. I too would like to see Quark publish their
file format, but telling them they should do it so smaller developers
can write import/export filters hasn't worked (yes, I have asked) and
I've got no reason to believe it will work until NS developers show some
financial promise.
Since I'm speaking directly to NS smaller developers and there are no
currently shipping and actively supported word processing apps, I
can't see much point in asking the larger developers to support a file
format that hasn't hit the market yet. When WriteUp and the new and
improved PasteUp come out, I'll continue to ask large developers to
support whatever file format(s) these products endorse. It would only
help the effort if more users got into doing the same thing.
>What is unreasonable is to say "please reverse-engineer Quark's
>undocumented file format and support it". So they can change it and
>you can complain that PasteUp is incompatible.
Which I never asked for, so that's a straw argument.
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tcsh --where??? AND line-completion in tcsh --HOW?
Date: 22 Feb 1994 09:20:00 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2kcf7g$1i7@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2kba3m$3b7@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes:
> I just upgraded to 3.2 and lost my tcsh. Where might I find it?
>Also, last time I had tcsh, the NeXT cc did some fancyfootwork to provide
>me with line-completions via the tab character. How might I get this
>facility again?
ftp.uni-stuttgart.de
/pub/systems/next/Unix/Shells
But be careful, the zsh you'll find there is even better :-)
Regards,
Markus.
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IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
From: behnkedj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (D Joshua Behnke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOOM for NeXTStep?
Date: 23 Feb 1994 00:46:36 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2ke91c$5p@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Just saw a couple of posts about a NS version of DOOM? Is there a
shareware version, and if so where can I get it? (I have a "DOOM faq" from
an ftp site, but it makes no mention of a NS version.)
-Josh Behnke
behnkedj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: bohlkejh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jon H. Bohlke II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: XV3.0
Date: 23 Feb 1994 03:09:34 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2kehde$u2@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22084539@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
In article <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22084539@shrug.dur.ac.uk> "Scott A. McIntyre"
<S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> writes:
> I have xv3.0 compiled and workingish on Black...the only problem seems that
> it doesn't like the tiff or jpeg images, regardless of whether or not
> libtiff or libjpeg have been installed.
make sure you run xv -8 to force xv 3.0 to use an 8 bit colormap. Otherwise it tried to
allocate a 24 bit color map and my X server pukes when it does that....
> I've been told that in conjunction with netbmp you should be able to do
> just about every form of conversion that exists. Mind you, it would be
> easier if it Just Worked for the NeXTSTEP environment.
>
> Scott
>
>
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Subject: next products
Date: 23 Feb 1994 03:57:43 GMT
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From: pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu (Paul A. Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOS to UNIX utility
Date: 23 Feb 1994 04:50:48 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <2kenbaINNcs6@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
I have a bunch of DOS style files and want to convert them to
UNIX style; that is, to convert the "return" key, etc. Can someone
send me a simple shell script or direct me to a public domain
utility?
Thanks and best regards in advance,
--Paul Griffin
Please reply to: pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu
--
Paul A. Griffin
Univ. of Florida Physics Dept.
Gainesville FL 32611
From: Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alembic International
Date: 23 Feb 1994 05:35:56 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kepvs$gui@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Contact Alembic International for your one stop NeXTSTEP
products shop.
Alembic International can be reached by calling:
1 - 800 - 452 - 7608
They have Graphics and Word Processing Apps,
Hardware, Productivity ware, Spreadsheet and Accounting packages, Database Management packages, Development ware, Communications software, Utilities, System Administration tools, Scientific ware, games, and misc stuff.
All of which can help you to get the most productivity out of you NEXTSTEP usage.
Call Now!!!
--
Copyright 1994 Charles M. Dudley Charles.Dudley@umich.edu
NEXTSTEP User 313.493.0574
P. O. Box 130231 Ann Arbor, MI 48113
NeXTmail to: warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
"The One True President of the Michigan NeXTSTEP Users Group."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Stone Design's Bug & Info email aliases now working...
Message-ID: <1994Feb22.203502.1387@stone.com>
Keywords: Stone Design Email Bounce
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 20:35:02 GMT
If you had trouble sending email to info@stone.com or bugs@stone.com over
the past 10 days (didn't get a response or got a bounced email), please
retry - we've got it 'under control'.
andrew
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Re: 3DReality users?
Message-ID: <1994Feb23.034851.340@stone.com>
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
References: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22082141@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 03:48:51 GMT
In article <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22082141@shrug.dur.ac.uk> "Scott A.
McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> writes:
>
> I would be interested in hearing from other users of 3DReality to find
out
> any tips, tricks, hints and so on they may have...Possibly to even setup
> a mailing list or public archive of shaders, textures and so on..
>
> If you think you can help, drop me a line.
>
> Thanks
> Scott
> --
If someone on the internet would host this list, we would donate some of
our inhouse work to it. There have a been a number of really cool plug
in's - probably the most amazing being Wave's WaveWorld Eve shape - which
is an entire modeling language he implemented as a bundle!
andrew
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From: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ruediger Popp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOS to UNIX utility
Date: 23 Feb 1994 07:40:47 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Message-ID: <2kf19v$g9v@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: <2kenbaINNcs6@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
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In article <2kenbaINNcs6@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu
(Paul A. Griffin) writes:
> I have a bunch of DOS style files and want to convert them to
> UNIX style; that is, to convert the "return" key, etc. Can someone
> send me a simple shell script or direct me to a public domain
> utility?
Use Rosetta.app!
You can find it on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
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From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au
Subject: Taylor uucp 1.04 config - help needed
Message-ID: <CLnHBs.B8M@number_one.apana.org.au>
Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nikki A Vincent)
Organization: Cafe Seacombe - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 23:59:51 GMT
Hi
I'm trying to set up Taylor uucp 1.04 (I tried before, but I had a crash
and that set me back for a few months :-) on a black station running 3.1,
and seem to have problems with the standard setup using configure.
Could someone out there please NeXTmail me the necessary files (policy.h
and whatever else needs to be changed) and a brief set of instructions,
otherwise I'll be doomed to keep receiving uucp downloads at a rate of 400
cps, using a 14400 modem and NeXT's own version of uucp... :-(
Thanx, and I look forward to a reply.
Cheers
Nicole
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----------------------NeXTmail Accepted and preferred --------------------
Nicole Vincent : nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au
SYDNEY NSW AUSTRALIA
On a day when nothing happens, are they gonna cancel the 6 o'clock news?
WIRED, February 1994, pp. 50.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Next, dd, and mac disk images
Message-ID: <bchin.761964765@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <2kdsb0$itk@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 00:52:45 GMT
alevine@ucsd.edu writes:
>Does anyone know if it's possible to reconstitute macintosh disk images
>produced by the mac DiskCopy program on a Next (3.2, black)?
You can purchase ARDI's Executor, a Mac emulator for NEXTSTEP and
run the DiskCopy program itself. There's a sale going on for $99
I think.
Contact executor@ardi.com
disclaimer: I am a customer waiting for ARDI implement a some of
my suggestions.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky)
Subject: WABI, SoftWindows, and native file systems...
Message-ID: <dgursky.762006996@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:36:36 GMT
Since products like WABI and SoftWindows provide Windows applications with
an interface to the native services of the host operating system (such as
Solaris, HP-UX, or NEXTSTEP), (instead of emulating an 8086 family computer
that would in turn run DOS and then Windows), does this mean that Windows
applications running on a Unix box with the aid of either WABI or SoftWindows
can give names to files that are more than 8 characters plus a three letter
extension?
--
David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted
Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org
8601 Georgia Avenue voice: ............. (301) 608-2144
Silver Spring, MD 20917 fax: ............. (301) 495-3036
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low)
Subject: Any good communication SW ?
Message-ID: <boonlow.762007252@sfu.ca>
Sender: news@sfu.ca (seymour news)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:40:52 GMT
Hey guys,
I might be asking the impossible here.
CAn someone recommend me a good, free/shareware communication software
for my NS FIP 3.2 ?
I just got NS installed yesterday, I know tip is good, but just can't seem
to be able to set it up properly.
Thanks,
Ben.
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MOD-Player
Date: 23 Feb 1994 14:10:27 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kfo4j$j5h@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
Is there any MOD-Player for NS Intel ? (NS 3.2 with ProAudio)
Thanks for help
Oli
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIDI-Sequencer
Date: 23 Feb 1994 14:24:51 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kfovj$j5h@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
Is there any MIDI-Sequencer for NS Intel (ProAudio Spectrum Card) ?
Thanks
Oli
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame to rtfd
Date: 23 Feb 1994 15:16:57 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <2kfs19$6qo@genesis.ait.psu.edu>
References: <1994Feb21.171952.25984@altsys.com>
In article <1994Feb21.171952.25984@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers
III) writes:
> I want to convert some Frame documents to rtfd format so I can include
> the Virtuoso documentation on line with the next NeXT release. Anyone
> out there know of a solution? Many thanks in advance!
>
I'd save the files as a MIF file and convert it on my Macintosh to RTF using
the MacLinkPlus/PC Translators.
Mark.
--
Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric)
Subject: SoftPC on BLACK hardware questions
Message-ID: <CLonLz.A7D@dove.nist.gov>
Originator: news@central
Sender: news@dove.nist.gov
Organization: NIST
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 15:13:10 GMT
In the need of a good word processing package, a good equation editor and
compatibility with my supervisor, I am considering running
SoftPC + WIN + MS-Word.
Would the performance of this software be acceptable on a NeXTstation Turbo
Color? I'm (still) running 3.0 so I don't have a SoftPC demo.
Thanks,
Eric
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT 3.2 device driver information wanted!
Date: 23 Feb 1994 16:04:34 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <2kfuqi$k3n@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <CLo3B5.31s@csn.org>
In article <CLo3B5.31s@csn.org> dhg@csn.org (David H. Goodlette) writes:
> And I'm in the process of writing a NeXTSTEP 3.2 LAN device driver
> for a new wiz-bang PC clone out of the UK. Within the deep recesses
> of this little monster, there lies an Intel 82596 LAN controller
> chip
We wrote that driver for UNISYS boxes that were sold to Bozell. It's
probably the only driver I've seen about as fast or maybe faster than the
Intel EtherExpress. The UNISYS boxes had that same ethernet controller
on-board, the Intel 82596 that uses bus mastering technology. You may be
able to get it from Brent Terry (Manager of the Technology Integration
group here at Pencom). The driver was written for 3.1 and then ported to
3.2 since there were some API changes.
--
+ Ricardo J. Parada
"Imagination is more important than knowledge!"..-- Albert Einstein
From: mickey@mothra.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MOD-Player
Date: 23 Feb 1994 17:13:54 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kg2si$q0u@news.UU.NET>
References: <2kfo4j$j5h@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
I just got Paula.app, but I am running it on NS-Black. Dunno if it works on
Intel. But, I had ModPlayer.app and I find Paula to have superior sound quality
both with the internal speakers and external ones. It also offers a playlist
feature which ModPlayer does not.
=====================================================
Mickey Lasky uunet!mickey
Technical Support Rep. mickey@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies 703-204-8000
Falls Church, VA. 202-424-0453
=====================================================
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU (David W. Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Questions
Message-ID: <140803@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 23 Feb 94 18:42:33 GMT
Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
I've got a barage of questions I was wondering if anyone can answer about
a Moto NeXT cube ('40) running system 2.1:
a) I've got an internal optical drive, is there a way to eject the disk
from the command line. umount will unmount it, but not eject it.
b) If I want to upgrade to NS 3.x, do I need a CD-ROM drive, everything
I've seen recently seems to be offered only on CD? While I'm at
it, where is a good place to get NS 3.2 either in the Atlanta
area, or via mail.. a student discount would be nice.
c) If I want to network this system to a PC running DOS/Windows to do
everything, including being a file server and a printer server:
1) What hardware should I get for my PC (i.e. ethernet card)?
2) What software should I get for my PC (DOS/Windows)?
3) Would I need a printer driver for the NeXT printer in Windows?
4) Do I need any additional hardware/software for the NeXT?
5) Would the PC be able to 'mount' the NeXT's hard drive/optical
drive as a file system, and would the NeXT be able to mount the PC's
hard drive as a file system?
--
David W Rinker
Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Co-Op: CSX Transportation. Jax, FL 32202
Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC on BLACK hardware questions
Date: 23 Feb 1994 19:17:19 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kga3v$mtv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CLonLz.A7D@dove.nist.gov>
In article <CLonLz.A7D@dove.nist.gov> eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov
(Eric) writes:
In the need of a good word processing package, a good equation editor and
compatibility with my supervisor, I am considering running SoftPC + WIN +
MS-Word.
Would the performance of this software be acceptable on a NeXTstation
Turbo Color? I'm (still) running 3.0 so I don't have a SoftPC demo.
-----
What I do is run MS Word for macintosh under the Executor emulator on my
040 slabs. Mine are non-turbo, and the performance is acceptible.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox)
Subject: Re: lt sullivan and frame
Message-ID: <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca>
Sender: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox)
Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd.
References: <1994Feb22.225331.104240@yuma>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 03:42:51 GMT
Dave Randall writes
>in the march nextworld, lt. sullivan says that frame is coming
>back into the fold. let's hope that it's true. frame, i will buy
>half a dozen licenses at a price that will make you smile.
March? I just got my February issue yesterday and I have a
subscription. What did they do, publish both at once?
Are there any professionals working at NeXTWorld?
Terry Wilcox
--
Terry Wilcox (terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca)
`Some praise at morning what they blame at night;
But always think the last opinion right.'
- Alexander Pope
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: tdion@world.std.com (Tim J Dion)
Subject: Help with bundle.registry ???
Message-ID: <CLoz8J.160@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 19:24:17 GMT
I am trying to extend the functionality of Workspace Managers
Inspector panels and have run into a snag. The new inspector does not
seem to be registering with WM correctly. I think the problem comes
from the bundle.registry file but I am not to sure. Can anyone point
me in the direction of a working Contents Inspector on the net that
shows exactly how things fit together? A working example would
definitely help me along.
On the same lines, after getting the contents inspector up and
running, I am going to try and add an inspector onto the normal
pulldown in the Inspector Panel (Attributes, Contents, Tools, Access
and foo), any suggestions for approaching this problem would be
appreciated.
Thanks for any help...
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/ --------------------> timd@marble.com /
/ / Timothy J. Dion /=======================
/ / / /\ /\ Marble Associates / /
/ / / / \/ / (617)- 891- 5555 / ...as long as I have /
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From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to append a signature automatically within Mail.app?
Date: 22 Feb 1994 08:39:19 GMT
Organization: WHU Koblenz
Message-ID: <2kcgbn$df@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de>
References: <CLK5xq.G6@genoa.com>
In article <CLK5xq.G6@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> Stefano Unternaehrer writes
> > The only way I know is to install an application called MailHelper,
..
> services like this without cluttering your screen with
> "helper" apps.
..
To help with the problem of workspace clutter you could use Locus, which
has a Start and hide icon facility.
--
Dipl.-Wirtsch.-Inf. Voice: +49 261 6509 173
Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 261 6509 179
WHU Koblenz E-Mail: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de
Burgplatz 2 (NeXTmail ok)
D-56179 Vallendar
Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: khooghee@marys.mnsmc.edu (Kevin Hoogheem)
Subject: NewsGrazer
Message-ID: <Z00LB5LL@math.fu-berlin.de>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 22:09:57 GMT
Does Newsgrazer run faster if I sub to certin groups.
I see all groups if i use Browser view but only subed if
I use list view.?? why
rather you email me since i dont read this much
--
=====================================================================
Kevin A. Hoogheem
kahooghe@rex.mnsmc.edu khooghee@marys.mnsmc.edu [NeXT Mail]
=====================================================================
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica (was: What exactly comes with the educational bundle)
Date: 23 Feb 1994 15:50:45 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402232150.AA04666@cantina.lanl.gov>
Todd Takken writes:
> Last I heard, the educational price on Mathematica for
> NextStep was $400. This is still high, but at least it's
> not $1200.
Perhaps so, but what was very surprising to me is that Wolfram Research
is unwilling to consider this laboratory, part of the University of
California, as eligible for the educational discount. I've not had
any other software vendor deny my claim to academic pricing.
[So, what did we do when it came time to get mathematical software for
our intel machines? First, we bought Maple. And, we learned how to
run Mathematica on our (old) black machines using NXHost.]
Dick Silbar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark Conway)
Subject: NIHCL classes
Message-ID: <CLp73K.H0q@ryn.mro.dec.com>
Sender: news@ryn.mro.dec.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Marlboro, MA
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 22:14:08 GMT
Has anyone used/ported the NIHCL classes
to NEXTSTEP?
Thanks - Mark
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HP LaserJet 4mSIx Duplex PPD
Date: 23 Feb 1994 22:28:24 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kgla8$g0@fermat.mayo.edu>
Anybody have one?
The shipped 3.2 HP4 driver doesn't support the duplexing option.
I looked at the PPD code differences between the IIIsiX duplex
and the HP4 and thought better of hand crufting a 'patch' before
I asked the net if one exists. Ftp.adobe.com doesn't have one,
and the HP people I call don't know the difference between a
PPD file and a windows driver.
---
Geoff
____________________________________________________________________________
Geoffrey Brunkhorst Brunkhorst.Geoffrey@Mayo.edu
Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: lt sullivan and frame
Date: 24 Feb 1994 02:27:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <2kh3a8$phc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca>
In article <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry
Wilcox) writes:
> March? I just got my February issue yesterday and I have a
> subscription. What did they do, publish both at once?
Strange. I just got the Feb issue yesterday. Today I got the March
issue. Time marches by pretty quick. Oh, well. More reading for me
to do :)
> Are there any professionals working at NeXTWorld?
Yes, I suppose so, but I think they're all busy writing stuff for
Wired magazine.
--
Alvin Jee
e-mail: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: lt sullivan and frame
Date: 24 Feb 1994 04:49:08 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <2khbk4$h4e@news.tamu.edu>
References: <1994Feb22.225331.104240@yuma> <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca>
In article <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca>,
Terry Wilcox <terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>Are there any professionals working at NeXTWorld?
>
Ha! I sent them email long ago requesting information
on buying back issues. After about 3 months I got a
reply telling me that I should send subscription requests
to some other address. They seem to make it harder to
buy their product than any other magazine I've ever seen.
Of course then you have the problem of the local bookstore
that drops them without notice. *sigh*
Lusty
From: rwagner@kaiwan.com (Ron David Wagner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FSCK HELP
Date: 23 Feb 1994 21:25:35 -0800
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access Service (310 527-4279)
Message-ID: <2khdof$bak@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
--
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Ron Wagner <rwagner@kaiwan.com> member8008@aol.com 70313.1574@compuserve.com
NeXTStep on Black AND White!
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Look up "gullible" in Webster
Date: 24 Feb 1994 06:34:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2khhpv$6jr@agate.berkeley.edu>
One of my colleagues just found this.
Look up the word "gullible" in Webster.
(It may not work if your system is not set up for ...).
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jtainio@siika.ratol.fi (Jukka Tainio)
Subject: Re: DOOM for NeXTStep?
Message-ID: <1994Feb24.063910.15043@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
Organization: Raahe institute of computer technology, Raahe, Finland
References: <2ke91c$5p@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 06:39:10 GMT
D Joshua Behnke (behnkedj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu) wrote:
: Just saw a couple of posts about a NS version of DOOM? Is there a
: shareware version, and if so where can I get it?
It is at cs.orst.edu in directory /pub/next/submissions
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: SoftPC on BLACK hardware questions
Message-ID: <bchin.762026582@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <CLonLz.A7D@dove.nist.gov>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 18:03:02 GMT
eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric) writes:
>In the need of a good word processing package, a good equation editor and
>compatibility with my supervisor, I am considering running
>SoftPC + WIN + MS-Word.
While I would normally say run native apps, like WriteUp + EquationBuilder
or FrameMaker, I can understand the need to be "fully compliant".
>Would the performance of this software be acceptable on a NeXTstation Turbo
>Color? I'm (still) running 3.0 so I don't have a SoftPC demo.
In a word, no. It's way too sluggish - if Insignia would
update it to use interceptor ports, it probably would be acceptable.
But they are not.
You'd be much better off running ARDI's Executor with Word
for the Mac on your Motorola box. On an Intel, by all means run
SoftPC w/ Windows unless you can't stand 8.3 filenames.
The problem with Executor is that it doesn't support color
and multiple applications running in the same Mac universe.
None are ideal solutions - it's a matter of what
you're willing to put up with.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Re: lt sullivan and frame
Message-ID: <CLq344.23u@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
References: <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 09:45:39 GMT
In article <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca
(Terry Wilcox) writes:
> Dave Randall writes
> >in the march nextworld, lt. sullivan says that frame is coming
> >back into the fold. let's hope that it's true. frame, i will buy
> >half a dozen licenses at a price that will make you smile.
>
> March? I just got my February issue yesterday and I have a
> subscription. What did they do, publish both at once?
>
> Are there any professionals working at NeXTWorld?
>
> Terry Wilcox
>
> --
> Terry Wilcox (terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca)
> `Some praise at morning what they blame at night;
> But always think the last opinion right.'
> - Alexander Pope
I received the march issue last week (in Switzerland) ! and the february
one... one month ago !
Alexander Lamb
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC on BLACK hardware questions
Date: 24 Feb 1994 08:41:29 GMT
Organization: The Home Of The Pilhuhn
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2khp7p$nsb@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org>
References: <2kga3v$mtv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2kga3v$mtv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd
Takken) writes:
> In article <CLonLz.A7D@dove.nist.gov> eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov
> (Eric) writes:
>
> In the need of a good word processing package, a good equation editor and
> compatibility with my supervisor, I am considering running SoftPC + WIN +
> MS-Word.
>
> Would the performance of this software be acceptable on a NeXTstation
> Turbo Color? I'm (still) running 3.0 so I don't have a SoftPC demo.
>
Forget it!
> -----
>
> What I do is run MS Word for macintosh under the Executor emulator on my
> 040 slabs. Mine are non-turbo, and the performance is acceptible.
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
--
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Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax: +49-721-696988
D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.ka.sub.org
Germany jr@resy2.kfk.de (>50K)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: lt sullivan and frame
Message-ID: <1994Feb24.053647.3431@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 05:36:47 GMT
In article <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca
(Terry Wilcox) writes:
> Dave Randall writes
> >in the march nextworld, lt. sullivan says that frame is coming
> >back into the fold. let's hope that it's true. frame, i will buy
>
> March? I just got my February issue yesterday and I have a
> subscription. What did they do, publish both at once?
I got both my February issue and my March issue yesterday.
As for Frame, where are they? Can't we just meet with them in the parking
lot and threaten them with bodily harm if they don't produce a 4.0
upgrade?
--
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BIX: rlove
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Mac <--> Next Email
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:26:50 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb24.132650.12599@cyantic.com>
I am looking for a Mac SMTP/Unix compatible email program in order to
integrate Macs into a Next/UNIX network. Eventually, MIME should be supported,
but is not necessary now.
The Macs are still running LocalTalk, but products like Intercon's TCP
Connect will take care of the TCP/IP side of things. Ethernet is in the
picture in the near future for the Macs.
I'd like to avoid going through any Email gateways because of the
administration overhead, and ideally only have a LocalTalk<->TCP/IP router
in place.
I know that attachments from Next to Mac will be a problem, but I need to
see what is available first before I decide what to do.
Thanks in advance.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: timed switches of fax modem from NO ANS to ANSWER possible?
Date: 24 Feb 1994 14:11:14 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <2kici2$756@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
I want to thank all who responded to my question and list a solution for
those who are using NXFax and Zyxel modems. Thanks especially to Richard
Bisbey who sent me this and to Rick Damon of Black and White who helped me
get it to work. The important thing is to set the fax modem to answer in
the Printmanager before trying this, then the Cron will override it to
turn it off and then on at designated times. If the Printmanager is set
to dont answer, none of this will work.
Put an entry in your /etc/cron that looks something like:
58 21 * * 1-5 root /LocalApps/ZyXEL_answer_on
00 4 * * * root /LocalApps/ZyXEL_answer_off
The above turns on answer weekdays at 9:58 pm, and off at 4:00 am. The
two files (3 lines each) are:
::::::::::::::
/LocalApps/ZyXEL_answer_off
::::::::::::::
dwrite NXFax AllowDataReceive NO
dwrite NXFax AllowFaxReceive NO
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/exec_faxes
::::::::::::::
/LocalApps/ZyXEL_answer_on
::::::::::::::
dwrite NXFax AllowDataReceive YES
dwrite NXFax AllowFaxReceive YES
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/exec_faxes
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Opener.app, BinHex, and MIME Mail app for Mac?
Date: 24 Feb 1994 14:41:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kiebe$ckt@agate.berkeley.edu>
It looks like most of the new BinHex 4.0 files from Mac cannot
be unpacked by Opener.app.
What should I tell Mac people to use for sending their WordPerfect
files over E-mail?
Now that Echelon by Doug Boyce can handle MIME attachement on the
NeXT, is there a MIME mail app for Mac that they can use to send
me binary files?
I don't care to wade through Mac newsgroups, so I am hoping that
the enlightened folks here can give me the answer.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille)
Subject: Re: lt sullivan and frame
Message-ID: <CLqK7A.GzE@cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
References: <CLq344.23u@eunet.ch>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 15:54:46 GMT
In article <CLq344.23u@eunet.ch> lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes:
> In article <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca
> (Terry Wilcox) writes:
> > Dave Randall writes
> > >in the march nextworld, lt. sullivan says that frame is coming
> > >back into the fold. let's hope that it's true. frame, i will buy
> > >half a dozen licenses at a price that will make you smile.
> >
> > March? I just got my February issue yesterday and I have a
> > subscription. What did they do, publish both at once?
> >
> > Are there any professionals working at NeXTWorld?
> >
> > Terry Wilcox
> >
> > --
> > Terry Wilcox (terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca)
> > `Some praise at morning what they blame at night;
> > But always think the last opinion right.'
> > - Alexander Pope
>
> I received the march issue last week (in Switzerland) ! and the february
> one... one month ago !
>
> Alexander Lamb
The problem does not seem to come from NeXTWorld, but from their publisher IDG
!
The team of NeXTWorld is very good !
Best regards,
- Eric
--
"The trouble with our times is
that the future is not what it
used to be." - Paul Valery
_____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tmoore@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Terry Moore)
Subject: Gator FTP for Intel
Message-ID: <1994Feb24.173455.29828@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Sender: usenet@martha.utcc.utk.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 17:34:55 GMT
I've been looking for an NSI or MAB copy of Gator FTP, but have been
unable to find one. I desperately need a copy of an intel version of this
terrific utility. I'd be grateful for any help in finding one.
Terry Moore
tmoore@nightingale.con.utk.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer)
Subject: Reference managment
Message-ID: <CLqqn8.GG5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 18:13:55 GMT
How are people who write scientific papers in NeXTStep managing
references? I'm aware of FrameMaker's fairly sophisticated
cross-reference abilities (you can keep a list of references numbered by
paragraph, and insert cross-references anywhere in the document, and update
the numbering of the references).
Is there anything comparable in another (preferably supported) NeXTStep app?
Ideally,
(FANTASY ON)
I'd like an reference database, from which I could insert references
into my paper's bibliography; then, I'd insert cross-references to the
bibliography at the appropriate points in my paper.
Even better, I'd just insert cross-references to the references in the
database where I cite them in the paper; at some point (e.g., when I
print the thing), the references would be inserted in the proper format
(number, name-date, whatever), and the bibliography would be generated
automatically.
(FANTASY OFF)
What are my options? I can buy Frame (oof!), or use EndNote with
Executor, or ... what? The demo version of DataPhile that I have
doesn't seem to have a "place record" service that I could call from an
external application (i.e,. my word-processor).
Are the good folks at afs.com addressing this sort of issue with
PasteUp/WriteUp, or is that an issue to be addressed when/if Frame
definitely abandons the NS market?
Thanks for your thoughts.
--
Will Fischer
wfischer@indiana.edu
(Grad Student)
Department of Biology "So much time, and so little to do!
Indiana University Wait. Strike that. Reverse it.
Bloomington, Indiana 47401 USA Thank you."
-- Willy Wonka
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: Re: Most of my Services have disappeared--solved
Message-ID: <1994Feb24.200613.26291@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
References: <1994Feb20.202031.28274@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 20:06:13 GMT
In comp.sys.next.software article <1994Feb20.202031.28274@midway.uchicago.edu>
I wrote:
> Hello netters:
> Just today I noticed that mysteriously almost all of my services
> (such as TickleServices, Mathematica, etc.--all except Mail, Edit and
Webster)
> which used to come up in the Services menu don't come up anymore.
>
I just turned the power off and on again, and that seemed to work.
Thanks to those who replied!
Michael Chwe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: lt sullivan and frame
Message-ID: <1994Feb24.191017.3768@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <1994Feb24.053647.3431@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 19:10:17 GMT
In article <1994Feb24.053647.3431@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> raptor!rlove (Robert
B. Love ) writes:
> In article <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca
> (Terry Wilcox) writes:
> > Dave Randall writes
> > >in the march nextworld, lt. sullivan says that frame is coming
> > >back into the fold. let's hope that it's true. frame, i will buy
> >
> > March? I just got my February issue yesterday and I have a
> > subscription. What did they do, publish both at once?
>
> I got both my February issue and my March issue yesterday.
>
> As for Frame, where are they? Can't we just meet with them in the
parking
> lot and threaten them with bodily harm if they don't produce a 4.0
> upgrade?
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
> BIX: rlove
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
Try gph@frame.ie (Gary Harte)
Send him mail telling how we love FrameMaker on NEXTSTEP and how we will
love to get 4.0.
Cheers
--Fabien
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dynamically allocated IP address for SLIP?
Date: 24 Feb 1994 21:49:59 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kj7e7$hfe@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Our slip server dynamically allocates IP address for dial-in slip
connections. I have just finished reading the documentataion
for TransSys PNI1.7beta, and can find no mention of
dynamically allocated IP address in the "point
-to-point" connection scheme. Is anyone using slip
software on NSI 3.2, dialing into a slip server
that dynamically allocates IP addresses? If so,
I would greatly appreciate hearing how you are
doing it. thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Kermit for NSI 3.2??
Date: 24 Feb 1994 21:51:22 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kj7gq$hil@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Is anyone running kermit under NSI 3.2? If so, I would like
to hear where you got it, and if any special configuration
is required. Thanks very much.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: NeXTWORLD (Was: lt sullivan and frame)
Message-ID: <espritCLr4M7.7n5@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <CLq344.23u@eunet.ch> <CLqK7A.GzE@cs.uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 23:15:39 GMT
In article <CLqK7A.GzE@cs.uiuc.edu> eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>In article <CLq344.23u@eunet.ch> lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes:
>> In article <CLnrnF.A90@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca
>> (Terry Wilcox) writes:
>> > Dave Randall writes
>> > >in the march nextworld, lt. sullivan says that frame is coming
>> > >back into the fold. let's hope that it's true. frame, i will buy
>> > >half a dozen licenses at a price that will make you smile.
>> >
>> > March? I just got my February issue yesterday and I have a
>> > subscription. What did they do, publish both at once?
>>
>> I received the march issue last week (in Switzerland) ! and the february
>> one... one month ago !
>
>The problem does not seem to come from NeXTWorld, but from their publisher IDG
>!
Just as another data point, I went looking for an issue of NeXTWorld yesterday
in the Silicon Valley area. I went to places where I knew I had seen it in
the past.
I could not find it at Fry's in Palo Alto or Sunnyvale, Kepler's in Menlo Park
or Printer's Inc. in Mountain View.
I found it at Tower Books in Mountain View and Computer Literacy in San Jose,
but it was the January issue.
It looks like NeXTWorld has a bit of a distribution problem.
--
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds
/dev/null Software | a man can make his life a little longer and
esprit@netcom.com | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Message-ID: <1994Feb22.172911.1884@afs.com>
Sender: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
References: <CLFE20.AF4@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 17:29:11 GMT
Mark Wuest writes
[snip]
>How can we get this poor lost soul [me] to See The Light, Repent
>of his Evil Ways, and stop Persecuting users of the One True
>Editor?
You emacs guys are like TV preachers, always trying to force the
rest of us to convert to your petty little religion. Bring on the
Inquisitors, I'm ready! :-) :-) :-)
-m
--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bksmith@bugstomper.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Brian K. Smith)
Subject: Re: dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES ==> fails in 3.2???
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Message-ID: <1994Feb24.233151.49116@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 23:31:51 GMT
References: <2kd866$l57@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
In article <2kd866$l57@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu
(Lones A. Smith) writes:
> Hi,
> It doesn't seem to do anything for me anymore. What's the
> replacement?
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Lones A. Smith
> Department of Economics, MIT
> E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
> voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
I've been told that this has been disable. So their is no
replacement other than adding a screen saver using the logouthook. (or
something like that)
Brian K. Smith
bksmith@mines.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: Where is windows? => Help with SoftPC
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.000028.7246@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis
References: <1994Feb24.053647.3431@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <1994Feb24.191017.3768@free.fdn.org>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 00:00:28 GMT
I was under the impression that windows came with the SoftPC demo that is
shipped with NS 3.2. If so, where is it? Am I missing something?
*Panic on*
Furthermore, I seem to be stuck with some default that I can't get around. I
deleted the hard_disk file that was created in my first attempt to run
SoftPC by hand, and now when I start up SoftPC it complains that the
hard_disk name is invalid, and I can either give a valid name or use the
default name. In either case I don't see an option to create a new hard_disk
file, and the program won't start in either case. Certainly not very
intuitive!
Furtherfurthermore, I have already gotten this program to crash/freeze up my
computer a couple times. Once was related to floppy managemaent and once I
don't know what happened. This wins a prize in my book, as I rarely have
gotten the computer to freeze up in the past. Or perhaps it is a problem
associated with my recent upgrade to 3.2. ? Makes me wonder whether I will
even get a chance to test this demo to see if I want to invest in it.
*Panic off*
Perhaps someone has already tried to run MathCad (for windows) under SoftPC.
If you have and it will not run, then I can probably forego trying to test
it, as that is my main current need for PC emulation. (Don't need it to be
fast. Just need to try out some things in my office sometimes.)
Thanks for any help.
Cheers,
Don Petcher
From: guest@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dynamically allocated IP address for SLIP?
Date: 24 Feb 1994 23:23:06 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kjcsq$ck7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2kj7e7$hfe@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2kj7e7$hfe@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Our slip server dynamically allocates IP address for dial-in slip
> connections. I have just finished reading the documentataion
> for TransSys PNI1.7beta, and can find no mention of
> dynamically allocated IP address in the "point
> -to-point" connection scheme. Is anyone using slip
> software on NSI 3.2, dialing into a slip server
> that dynamically allocates IP addresses? If so,
> I would greatly appreciate hearing how you are
> doing it. thanks.
The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign just went to dynamic SLIP,
too. I'd like to know as well.
Steve Weintz
EthnoGraphics
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu
From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian P. Cardenas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTWORLD (Was: lt sullivan and frame)
Date: 24 Feb 1994 23:29:47 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kjd9b$dc0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <espritCLr4M7.7n5@netcom.com>
Alan F. Perry writes
> It looks like NeXTWorld has a bit of a distribution problem.
I would say it's more than "a bit." Here in Urbana,IL I asked a local
bookstore if they carried NeXTWorld and they said they hadn't heard of it but
would check with their distributers. I came back a week later and was told
that all _five_ of her distributers had never heard or didn't carry the
magazine. *sigh*
-Ian
--
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Love:"Floats like a flower petal, X Ian Cardenas X
stings like a cattle prod." X CS Major at UIUC X
-A real stud hombre cybermuffinX icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu X
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reference managment
Date: 25 Feb 1994 00:33:41 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kjh15INN7gc@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
References: <CLqqn8.GG5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Hello,
In article <CLqqn8.GG5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> wfischer@bio.indiana.edu
(Will Fischer) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>
> Ideally,
> (FANTASY ON)
>
> I'd like an reference database, from which I could insert references
> into my paper's bibliography; then, I'd insert cross-references to the
> bibliography at the appropriate points in my paper.
>
> Even better, I'd just insert cross-references to the references in the
> database where I cite them in the paper; at some point (e.g., when I
> print the thing), the references would be inserted in the proper format
> (number, name-date, whatever), and the bibliography would be generated
> automatically.
>
> (FANTASY OFF)
>
> What are my options? I can buy Frame (oof!), or use EndNote with
> Executor, or ... what? The demo version of DataPhile that I have
> doesn't seem to have a "place record" service that I could call from an
> external application (i.e,. my word-processor).
>
The solution here (and it's becoming more and more the solution
for journals and publishers) is to use TeX or LaTeX. There is a _very_
nice distribution of TeX on the NeXT which uses TeXView. (It's missing a
feature or two that xdvi has, but that's not a big deal.) There is also
TeXMenu from Harald Schlangmann (schlangm@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) that
integrates very nicely all of the TeX pieces and add-ons. There is also
the public domain, very richly featured (too rich maybe?) InstantTeX.
Further, if you use emacs, there is an emacs mode for LaTeX as well as
AUC-TeX which is very rich in features as well.
TeX was designed specifically for typesetting high-quality
technical manuscripts. It takes care of a lot of stuff for you like
equation numbering, theorem numbering, footnotes, references,
bibliographies, margins, etc. Kind of like NS, it just works. Of course,
it can be a pain in the a**, too. But then can't we all. :-)
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!'
Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Taylor uucp 1.04 config - help needed
Date: 24 Feb 1994 08:44:34 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2khlt2$2li@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CLnHBs.B8M@number_one.apana.org.au>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au writes:
>I'm trying to set up Taylor uucp 1.04 (I tried before, but I had a crash
>and that set me back for a few months :-) on a black station running 3.1,
>and seem to have problems with the standard setup using configure.
>Could someone out there please NeXTmail me the necessary files (policy.h
>and whatever else needs to be changed) and a brief set of instructions,
>otherwise I'll be doomed to keep receiving uucp downloads at a rate of 400
>cps, using a 14400 modem and NeXT's own version of uucp... :-(
Peep into ftp.uni-stuttgart.de, somewhere below /pub/systems/next/...
(don't remember the exact path). I dropped my personal port of Taylor-uucp
for NS 3.2 there, FAT binaries are included. The setup of Taylor-style
config files is easy if you carefully read the docs.
If you run NS on Intel, get Mark Salyzyn's Mux driver for better serial
performance and better stability (path: /pub/systems/next/i486/Drivers/3.2).
Regards,
Markus.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
From: rlion@think.digex.net (rebel lion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer
Date: 25 Feb 1994 01:20:53 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <2kjjpl$65v@news1.digex.net>
References: <Z00LB5LL@math.fu-berlin.de>
In article <Z00LB5LL@math.fu-berlin.de> khooghee@marys.mnsmc.edu (Kevin
Hoogheem) writes:
> Does Newsgrazer run faster if I sub to certin groups.
no.
> I see all groups if i use Browser view but only subed if
> I use list view.?? why
because that's how the programs written,. browser is for everything, list
is for subscribed groups
NewsGrazer is the only news program i've ever used that just brings a net
connection to its knees! I stilll use it and like it but for about 45
minutes while i read news i dont ftp anything
--
Eli Rosenblatt [rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)]
/\ Rebellion Systems
\/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, Repair, and Sales
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MOD-Player
Date: 25 Feb 1994 01:37:03 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kjknv$g8c@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <2kg2si$q0u@news.UU.NET>
In article <2kg2si$q0u@news.UU.NET> mickey@mothra.UU.NET (Mickey Lasky)
writes:
> I just got Paula.app, but I am running it on NS-Black. Dunno if it
works on
> Intel. But, I had ModPlayer.app and I find Paula to have superior sound
quality
> both with the internal speakers and external ones. It also offers a
playlist
> feature which ModPlayer does not.
If you want to know which architectures are supported, and you are
running NS 3.1 or 3.2, you can just select the app in the File Viewer
and bring up the inspector panel with command-2. Everything you need
to know is right there.
Paul M. Cardon
From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WORKSPACE error/crash NS3.2 BLACK
Date: 24 Feb 1994 15:28:01 GMT
Organization: Suite Software
Message-ID: <2kih21$22g@bilbo.suite.com>
Anyone got any ideas on this problem. When I attempt to open a
directory (mine) while logged in as root with the file browser I get
a WORKSPACE ERROR PANEL telling me to attempt to save any files
before logging off and the browser disappears. This only happens on
one of the 12 NeXTs in the network, and only when opening this one
directory. The only clue *I* have are these messages from the
messages log file:
Feb 24 07:54:45 spam syslog: Tool: bootstrap port died: 1102; exiting
Feb 24 07:54:46 spam loginwindow[199]: loginwindow: Workspace exited
ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Scot
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From: grey@futon.SFSU.EDU (Herbert Leong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Date: 25 Feb 1994 02:43:51 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2kjol7$re5@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <CLFE20.AF4@cbfsb.cb.att.com> <1994Feb22.172911.1884@afs.com>
In article <1994Feb22.172911.1884@afs.com> Michael_Pizolato@afs.com writes:
>Mark Wuest writes
>[snip]
>>How can we get this poor lost soul [me] to See The Light, Repent
>>of his Evil Ways, and stop Persecuting users of the One True
>>Editor?
>
>You emacs guys are like TV preachers, always trying to force the
>rest of us to convert to your petty little religion. Bring on the
>Inquisitors, I'm ready! :-) :-) :-)
Well, you know.... Next we will see them walking around labs all over the
land, making sure that all of us heathens out there are using the One Tru
Editor. I can see it now: Picket lines in front of labs that do not use
EMACS with signs like "vivivi: The editor of the Beast" or "Beat me! Beat
me! Make me use vi! (abolish vi, DOS, MicroShaft and other forms of
masochism!!)"....
:-)
/herb
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From: kay@nagasena.muc.de (Kay Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: XV3.0
Date: 24 Feb 1994 09:43:04 GMT
Organization: School and Education Centre
Sender: kay@nagasena (Kay Schulz)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2khsr8$2vd@nagasena.muc.de>
References: <CLE46z.6I0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22084539@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
It is also compiled for NSI 3.2 with coXist. In the near future we will put some X binaries for NSI on the ftp server in Stuttgart.
No problems with tiff or jpeg at all.
Be patient
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Kay Schulz
kay@nagasena.muc.de
NeXTmail accepted
From: dekorte@ibm8.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen L. DeKorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTstep version of Mosaic???
Date: 25 Feb 1994 04:30:17 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
Message-ID: <2kjusp$cie@mailer.fsu.edu>
Does anyone know of a PD or commercial Mosaic app for
NeXTstep (a native NS app - not under CubX, etc)?
Any info on one in the works?
Steve
PS. please respond by email
From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with NeXTTeX
Date: 24 Feb 1994 20:31:02 -0800
Message-ID: <2kjuu6$p1e@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
Keywords: NeXTTeX
Hi,
I am writing a paper with NeXTTeX and having problem printing out a postscript
output on a Laserjet III with postscript cartridge installed. My machine is
running NS/FIP v 3.2 and not connected to the printer.
I used TeXview app. to view the dvi file, it looks fine. After I used dvips
to convert the dvi file to a postscript file then view with Preview.app, I
noticed that the postscript output looks much worse than the dvi output.
There is a noticeable reduction in resolution of the postscript output.
This is probably due to the resolution of the monitor, I thought, so I sent
the ps file to the Laserjet III at school. That didn't solve the problem,
it still looks ugly. The resolution of the hardcopy is much less than the dvi
output that I viewed with TeXview.
Finally, I took my latex code to a Sun machine at school and compiled
then printed it there. It looks great.
What modifications do I need to do in order to make NeXTTeX works right ?
Any info will be greatly appreciated. I will post a summary of the responses to
this newsgroup.
Regards,
Pitak
From: varun@axis.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dynamically allocated IP address for SLIP?
Date: 25 Feb 1994 04:42:30 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kjvjm$h3g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <2kjcsq$ck7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <2kjcsq$ck7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> guest@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
(Steve Weintz) writes:
> In article <2kj7e7$hfe@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
> (Joe Panico) writes:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Our slip server dynamically allocates IP address for dial-in slip
> > connections. I have just finished reading the documentataion
> > for TransSys PNI1.7beta, and can find no mention of
> > dynamically allocated IP address in the "point
> > -to-point" connection scheme. Is anyone using slip
> > software on NSI 3.2, dialing into a slip server
> > that dynamically allocates IP addresses? If so,
> > I would greatly appreciate hearing how you are
> > doing it. thanks.
>
> The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign just went to dynamic
SLIP,
> too. I'd like to know as well.
>
Here at Ohio State University, they just started a SLIP service as well.
After connecting to the server, the last line of the connect message
returns your ip address in the form:
My IP address should be 127.0.0.1
You can configure pni to use this information. Change the login-unix.tcl
(or whichever one you use) in pni/support with something similar to what I
do:
from /etc/pni/support/login-unix.tcl...
syslog LOG_INFO "Entering SLIP mode"
# Wait for connection
set timeout 60
# Use regular-expression based expect command to match addresses in
message
# that the cisco server emits.
#
$DIALER rexpect {Your IP address is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+)}
#
# We now ifconfig the interface, using the IP address given us from
# cisco-ts2/UOnet
#
exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 $1
#
syslog LOG_INFO "My IP address should be $1"
#
Varun
From: CIRCAN@FRMOP22.CNUSC.FR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: unsubscribing
Date: 24 Feb 1994 23:17:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <"94-02-25-06:16:11.74*CIRCAN"@FRMOP22.CNUSC.FR>
I have desperately tried to unsubscribe from various
next lists. Nothing seems to happen.
Can you do it for me (and also tell me what I should have done?)
I receive Antigone Usenet Daily Digest from listmailer@antigone.com
Thank you for your assistance
Ronald Creagh
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame to rtfd
Date: 25 Feb 1994 05:13:48 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kk1ec$s9t@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <2kfs19$6qo@genesis.ait.psu.edu>
There's also a MIF -> RTF translator made by Frame available for the
Macintosh. It is on the Frame BBS, I believe.
Roland
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Gomidas Solutions UUCP: uunet!gomidas!roland
1697 Broadway, Suite 104 Phone: +1 313 761 9590
Ann Arbor, MI 48105-1865 Fax: +1 313 761 9890
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From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Blue Rose Systems still alive?
Date: 25 Feb 1994 05:16:28 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kk1jc$sah@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <2kdiom$o2t@dorito.cs.umd.edu>
In article <2kdiom$o2t@dorito.cs.umd.edu> rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
writes:
> Is Blue Rose Systems still alive? I've been trying to contact them since
> If not, is
> there another inexpensive SQL server like RoseBase?
Try QuickBase from SofDesign Solutions. 1-800-234-0990.
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Roland Telfeyan Internet: roland@gomidas.mi.org
Gomidas Solutions UUCP: uunet!gomidas!roland
1697 Broadway, Suite 104 Phone: +1 313 761 9590
Ann Arbor, MI 48105-1865 Fax: +1 313 761 9890
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From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac <--> Next Email
Date: 25 Feb 1994 05:21:06 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kk1s2$sat@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <1994Feb24.132650.12599@cyantic.com>
Does anybody know of MIME mail clients for both the Mac and Windows that would
work with one another?
Thanks!
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Roland Telfeyan Internet: roland@gomidas.mi.org
Gomidas Solutions UUCP: uunet!gomidas!roland
1697 Broadway, Suite 104 Phone: +1 313 761 9590
Ann Arbor, MI 48105-1865 Fax: +1 313 761 9890
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From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT lint?
Date: 24 Feb 1994 19:33:22 GMT
Organization: Suite Software
Message-ID: <2kive2$6cj@bilbo.suite.com>
Anyone know where I can get a lint program for the NeXT? Black
hardware?
Thanks,
Scot
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac <--> Next Email
Date: 25 Feb 1994 07:54:32 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2kkaro$ggr@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <1994Feb24.132650.12599@cyantic.com>
In article <1994Feb24.132650.12599@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com
(Mark T. Dornfeld) writes:
>I am looking for a Mac SMTP/Unix compatible email program in order to
>integrate Macs into a Next/UNIX network. Eventually, MIME should be supported,
>but is not necessary now.
I'll put in my obligatory plug for Eudora, an outstanding POP3-
based e-mail client for the Macintosh.
Eudora comes in two flavors: a free version (1.x) and an
inexpensive but fully supported commercial version (2.x),
with a few more features.
ftp.qualcomm.com:~ftp/mac/eudora/Beta/Eudora142fc1-3.94.hqx
is current as of this writing. It's a beta version that
expires April 1. The official 1.4.2 release will not have
time restrictions.
Note that the free version of Eudora does not bundle Apple's
MacTCP. If you don't have MacTCP, one of the best ways to
get it is to purchase _The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh_ by
Adam C. Engst, published by Hayden books. It comes with a
floppy full of goodies (not necessarily the latest and greatest,
but updates are available).
>The Macs are still running LocalTalk, but products like Intercon's TCP
>Connect will take care of the TCP/IP side of things. Ethernet is in the
>picture in the near future for the Macs.
Ethernet is good. :-) I don't have anything bad to say about
Intercon's products, other than "you should know what's available
for free or nearly so" before you look at things with significant
price tags. Then decide whether you _need_ the additional
functionality/support that stuff offers.
>I'd like to avoid going through any Email gateways because of the
>administration overhead, and ideally only have a LocalTalk<->TCP/IP router
>in place.
Save even more--ditch LocalTalk. :-)
>I know that attachments from Next to Mac will be a problem, but I need to
>see what is available first before I decide what to do.
"NeXTMail" is a problem for _anything_ non-NeXT.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: .gz problems... .tar problems
Message-ID: <schwettCLrvpA.HDC@netcom.com>
Summary: Help me!
Keywords: .gz .tar newbie problems
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 09:00:45 GMT
Ack, help!
I recently moved to NeXTStep/intel, and am trying to get my SLIP connection
running.
I got the Transys PNI beta, 1.7, and downloaded it under dos (since I don't
have any working NS term programs)...
I moved it to the NS drive and restored it's original long filename, which
was something liek PNI-1.7-beta.tar.gz
I then tried to use gunzip to extract this, but all I got was an error
message about a violated format or some such nonsense. I redownloaded it
to make sure it was not just a bad download or something, but the same
problem - I also tried a 1.6 version beta - same problem.
Does anybody have any idea what is going on here? (besides my own ignorance
- that much I know!)
But wait, theres more!
Since I really wanted to try out PNI, I gunzipped it on netcom, which,
strangely enough, worked absolutely fine and resulted in about 15 files or
so, in a couple of directories. I downloaded these files one by one, taking
great care to restore their exact names, cases, and permissions, and placing
them in the proper directories. When I was done my NS drive contained a
folder and some subfolders that exactly resembled the stuff on netcom. So I
ran the installer package. It went about three fourths of the way and then
puked. So I untarred it manually and got the exact same thing; a checksum
error about 3/4 through.
The really bizzare thing is that if I try to untar the same file on netcom,
it works PERFECTLY.
Is there something relevant that I don't know about the NeXT version of tar?
Any help, comments, snide snickers will be much appreciated!
Mark Schwettmann
schwett@netcom.com
or
schwett@soda.berkeley.edu
From: alan@softpac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Objects and Software for financial trading
Date: 25 Feb 94 15:24:23
Organization: Softpac Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <alan.94Feb25152423@softpac>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Our organisation is looking for any information regarding Objects available for the financial arena.
Thanks in advance
Alan Goldberg
General Manager
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Look up "gullible" in Webster
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.090615.3903@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <2khhpv$6jr@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 09:06:15 GMT
izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>One of my colleagues just found this.
>Look up the word "gullible" in Webster.
>(It may not work if your system is not set up for ...).
Hey, give us an explanation of what should happen. With me (black NS3.0)
nothing special happens. Just a word from 1818.
Willem
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From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: sleepprinter and Tyler Gingrich
Date: 25 Feb 1994 08:16:49 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kkc5h$59h@network.ucsd.edu>
Will Tyler Gingrich who wrote sleepprinter be willing to recompile it to
NS 3.2?
Murshid
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Subject: EPS-Grab window?
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.095435.9054@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 09:54:35 GMT
Does anyone know about a program which acts like Grab but returns an eps
file, i.e. allows to eps-grab windows.
Screen resolution tiffs don't look that nice in a report and after all the
windows on the screen are all in postscript. So why not use this code?
thanks - Moritz
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Moritz Willers
Institute for Theoretical Physics
Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Blue Rose Systems still alive? (Databases)
Date: 25 Feb 1994 05:42:11 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kk33j$mac@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2kdiom$o2t@dorito.cs.umd.edu>
rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
> Is Blue Rose Systems still alive? I've been trying to contact
> them since last week, but I keep getting their answering machine.
> If not, is there another inexpensive SQL server like RoseBase?
> Thanks, Ross.
My understanding is that RoseBase has not shipped yet. Ie, the
ads are a bit in advance of the product. I could very well be
wrong on that though, as I have no direct involvement with
RoseBase (or any attempted involvement either).
As for other SQL-based database server engines, the one I use
is called QuickBase, and is made by SofDesign Solutions. It
has worked great for me, but there is a demo version available
and I recommend that people take a look at the demo first.
I believe they just released version 4.0 (I'm working with
version 3.4, or something like that).
If you can receive NeXTmail, send a message to sdc_demo@gun.com
and their auto-reply mechanism should send you about 10 email
messages in return. This will include a demo version, and
details like pricing. If you want to contact a person instead,
send a message to sdc@gun.com. SofDesign also had an ad in
the February issue of NeXTWORLD, so you could check that for
some phone numbers to call.
Disclaimer: I have no direct connection to SofDesign, but I do
know the guy who started the company. QuickBase is targetted
for programmer-types, who would feel comfortable using IB with
the DBkit, or writing C code. I like it, but then I'm a
programmer-type who loves playing with Interface Builder...
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Look up "gullible" in Webster
Date: 25 Feb 1994 12:33:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kkr6t$9do@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Feb25.090615.3903@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
In article <1994Feb25.090615.3903@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem
van Schaik) writes:
>izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>
>>Look up the word "gullible" in Webster.
>>(It may not work if your system is not set up for ...).
>
>Hey, give us an explanation of what should happen. With me (black NS3.0)
>nothing special happens. Just a word from 1818.
I suppose it's OK to explain now.
What should happen is that your picture (current console user's
picture) in /LocalLibrary/Images/People is displayed with the title
"gullible." Obviously, you have to have the picture database set
up for Mail.app.
Wierd thing is that I can't seem to get it to work with Webster on
Black NS3.2. It seems to work only with Webster on NS/Intel with
NS3.2 (I don't know if it's in 3.1 NSI). This is not fair. Why
only NSI owners get the fun. Should I file a bug report?
Or perhaps, NeXT thinks that you are gullible if you are a kind of
person who buys a 486 PC to run NEXTSTEP. Black hardware owners
have good judgement and therefore not gullible. That makes sense. :-)
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USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Re: PD Spreadsheet
Message-ID: <940224.205827.4w2.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 20:58:27 MST
References: <2hjp1t$fqv@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
szallies@koenig.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Constantin Szallies (PG234)) writes:
> Hi folks, does anybody know
> if there's a PD or shareware spreadsheet around for NS/Intel ?
>
> I found one one ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. It's called Sc and is running
> with Unix. No sources are included, and it only compiled for Motorola :-(
> Does anyone know a ftp site (in germany) where I can suck the sources?
not in Deutschland, but in Canada you can get the source to ss, which
is sc with a few additions. I built it on NS 2.1 just last week with
a few minor changes (which should be in the next version) -- basically
`#define beep()' and #if defined(foo) for attron/attroff became #if
defined(foo) || defined(NeXT) and it worked fine. and use YACC=yacc
in the Makefile.
ftp --anonymous ftp.cs.ualberta.ca
ls -R |"grep -i spreadsheet"
or just look around in /pub
> / Constantin Szallies is szallies@kunibert.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/
didn't match headers. close, but not quite.
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From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran
Message-ID: <940224.215047.9D7.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 21:50:47 MST
References: <CKCqsu.3oA@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
dma9w@tanzi.med.Virginia.EDU (Dawn M. Adelsberger) writes:
> Does anyone know of a shareware site for a fortran compiler for the NeXT?
I don't know of any shareware ones.
f2c compiled no problems (that I remember) under 3.1 -- check the
comp.sys.next.announce Languages FAQ.
and absoft never returned my mail.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GNU tar 1.11.2, long file names
Message-ID: <MATTHEW.94Feb25123602@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk>
From: matthew@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk (Matthew Seaman)
Date: 25 Feb 1994 12:36:02 GMT
References: <HUGH.94Feb21103433@hodain.ci.net>
Organization: Mat's Hacking Shop
In-reply-to: hugh@hodain.ci.net's message of Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:34:33 GMT
>>>>> "Hugh" == Hugh Secker-Walker <hugh@hodain.ci.net> writes:
Hugh> In the meantime, has anyone figured out how to get GNU tar
Hugh> 1.11.2 to compile correctly under NS 3.2 on Motorola hardware.
I've seen quite a few postings on this subject recently, so I'll post
the fix rather than e-mailing it...
1) To get Gnu tar 1.11.2 to compile under NS 3.2, you simply have to
get the latest version of autoconf (version 1.7), and rebuild the
configure scripts etc. in the tar-1.11.2 directory. tar will then
configure and compile successfully.
2) Gnu tar 1.11.2 is bundled with NS 3.2 as /usr/bin/gnutar.
Matthew
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<matthew@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk> NeXT mail
Inorganic Chemistry Laboratory, S. Parks Rd, Oxford, OX1 3QR, England
Tel +44 (0)865 272640 Fax +44 (0)865 272690
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac <--> Next Email
Date: 25 Feb 1994 13:34:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kkuor$9ub@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2kkaro$ggr@nic-nac.CSU.net>
In article <2kkaro$ggr@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
>In article <1994Feb24.132650.12599@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com
> (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes:
>>I am looking for a Mac SMTP/Unix compatible email program in order to
>>integrate Macs into a Next/UNIX network. Eventually, MIME should be supported,
>>but is not necessary now.
>
>I'll put in my obligatory plug for Eudora, an outstanding POP3-
>based e-mail client for the Macintosh.
Does Eudora do MIME attachment without BinHex'ing files?
Opener.app can't decode most recent BinHex 4.0 files,
and I need MIME attachement from Macs that are not in Mac
specific format, so Echelon can decode it.
BinHex sucks. At least NeXT mail format is public.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3DReality Mailing List Creation
Date: 23 Feb 1994 09:09:59 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb23090959@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
I've created a mailing list for users of 3DReality -- if you are interested
in joining, then send a message to majordomo@shrug.org reading
subscribe 3dr
in the body of the message. To post, just mail 3dr@shrug.org.
I've also created a small ftp archive for shaders, textures and so on;
I don't have a vast amount of space, so submissions will have to be smallish,
IE, no 2meg TIFF's you make. You can find the archive at shrug.org:/pub/3dr
and can submit to shrug.org:/incoming
Let me know if you have any questions!
Scott
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES ==> fails in 3.2???
Date: 25 Feb 1994 14:13:32 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <2kl12c$1sf@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <2kd866$l57@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <1994Feb24.233151.49116@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
In article <1994Feb24.233151.49116@slate.mines.colorado.edu>,
Brian K. Smith <bksmith@bugstomper.Mines.Colorado.EDU> wrote:
>I've been told that this has been disable. So their is no
>replacement other than adding a screen saver using the logouthook. (or
>something like that)
I think it works. I'm running 3.2 (Moto). It just works,
the same as for 3.1.
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From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: tip at 14400/good term proggie?
Message-ID: <schwettCLsAG6.6E8@netcom.com>
Summary: How to break 9600!
Keywords: 14400 tip white
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 14:19:18 GMT
Greetings!
Does anybody know if it is possible to coax tip into using 14,400 bps?
I edited the /etc/remote file but tip gave me an error - 14000 bad baud
rate.
Or something like that.
Also, what do people recommend as far as communications software for white
hardware? The Communicae demo looks pretty good, but the lack of zmodem and
the fairly high price tag are drawbacks.
Thankz!
Mark
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Subject: Re: NewsGrazer version 75 - Forever Busy
Message-ID: <1994Feb24.204546.166554@eros.embl-heidelberg.de>
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Date: 24 Feb 94 20:45:44 +0100
References: <1994Feb18.003404.7993@Radical.Com>
In article <1994Feb18.003404.7993@Radical.Com> writes:
> richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu writes
> > I am having an intrrmitant problem when running the new NewsGrazer
> > (Release 3, Version 75). Occasionally, NewsGrazer shows busy (mouse
> > pointer becomes a rotating disk) uses lots of cpu time, and stays busy for
> > ever. (or until I kill it from a terminal window.)
> >
> > NewsGrazer running on
> > NeXTStation Color running 3.2 with 32Mb ram
> >
> > This is not the NewsGrazer exiting problem that occurs when version 72.3
> > tries to read an article with a bad header. I also tried deleting the
> > NewsGrazer entries in the defaults database and starting from scratch no
> > luck. NewsGrazer release 72.3 is still working fine.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> I'm having the exact same problem. This is my fifth attempt to post a
> follow-up without NewsGrazer hanging up.
Ditto! Just try to read bionet.software!
follow-up works fine on our site.
-- georg --
From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Disk Labels
Date: 24 Feb 1994 14:19:58 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <2kid2e$p9c@gateway.wiltel.com>
Anyone know of a program that will print disk labels on a laser
printer?
Anyone got a template for any word processor or drawing program to
print
disk labels?? Thanks in advance!
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|Terry Marrs
|terry_marrs@wiltel.com
|WilTel | NeXTmail OK
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From: msander@bcarh63f.bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: term for NeXT (black)
Date: 25 Feb 1994 16:32:37 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Sender: msander@bcarh63f (Michael Sanderson)
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References: <MJANTTI.94Feb25165152@medusa.abo.fi>
Keywords: term
I use term1.11 to connect my black slab (3.0) to my hp at work.
Works really well. It built cleanly on the NeXT, but took some
fiddling to make it work with hpux 9.0
There are 5 clients that come with the standard distribution,
trsh (a regular shell), txconn(allows you to remote an X display
back ... really slow at 9k6 baud :-), tupload (file xfer), tmon
(just a staus monitor), and tredir (lets you map ports on your
local machine to ports on the remote machine, like 119 for news)
Get it from a linux archive near you, it's worth it!
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From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT lint?
Date: 25 Feb 1994 17:24:24 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2klc88$j81@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2kive2$6cj@bilbo.suite.com>
Scot Shepherd <shepherd@suite.com> writes:
> Anyone know where I can get a lint program for the NeXT? Black
> hardware?
I use the following csh script saved under the name 'lint' -- not quite the
same but useful for checking code without running a full compile.
#! /bin/csh
set program = $0
cc -O -Wall -D$program:t -S -o /dev/null ${argv[1-]}
unset program
The -D$program:t lets you do '#ifndef lint' stuff in your code if you save the
script under the name 'lint'. The script only runs the early (syntax checking)
phases of the compiler and throws aways the output since the error messages are
the goal. Should take any switch options that 'cc' would normally take.
- Christopher
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From: lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher Lloyd)
Subject: Re: tip at 14400/good term proggie?
Message-ID: <CLsKpC.5rq@world.std.com>
Keywords: 14400 tip white
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <schwettCLsAG6.6E8@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:00:46 GMT
In article <schwettCLsAG6.6E8@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) writes:
>Does anybody know if it is possible to coax tip into using 14,400 bps?
You can just use 19,200.
>Also, what do people recommend as far as communications software for white
>hardware? The Communicae demo looks pretty good, but the lack of zmodem and
>the fairly high price tag are drawbacks.
You have a Communicae demo that runs on 3.x ??
If you send me a copy of the demo, I'll send you a comm. program that
does what you want - and more :) If you can handle a 1.5 meg NeXTMail.
thanks,
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GNU tar 1.11.2, long file names
Date: 25 Feb 1994 16:31:17 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2kl94l$17i@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <HUGH.94Feb21103433@hodain.ci.net> <MATTHEW.94Feb25123602@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk>
matthew@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk (Matthew Seaman) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>>>>>> "Hugh" == Hugh Secker-Walker <hugh@hodain.ci.net> writes:
>
>
>Hugh> In the meantime, has anyone figured out how to get GNU tar
>Hugh> 1.11.2 to compile correctly under NS 3.2 on Motorola hardware.
>
>I've seen quite a few postings on this subject recently, so I'll post
>the fix rather than e-mailing it...
>
>1) To get Gnu tar 1.11.2 to compile under NS 3.2, you simply have to
>get the latest version of autoconf (version 1.7), and rebuild the
>configure scripts etc. in the tar-1.11.2 directory. tar will then
>configure and compile successfully.
>
>2) Gnu tar 1.11.2 is bundled with NS 3.2 as /usr/bin/gnutar.
>
> Matthew
>
>--
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> <matthew@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk> NeXT mail
>Inorganic Chemistry Laboratory, S. Parks Rd, Oxford, OX1 3QR, England
>Tel +44 (0)865 272640 Fax +44 (0)865 272690
Sounds to me as it's a direct dirent and friends problem. Should be
able to edit config.sh by hand and tune it properly.
dirent should be undef
and
sys/dir.h should be define
if that is any help.
Thank god autoconf has finally caught up.
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From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com>
Subject: Re: EPS-Grab window?
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.183534.6490@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <1994Feb25.095435.9054@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:35:34 GMT
Moritz Willers writes
> Does anyone know about a program which acts like Grab but returns an eps
> file, i.e. allows to eps-grab windows.
> Screen resolution tiffs don't look that nice in a report and after all the
> windows on the screen are all in postscript. So why not use this code?
I would imagine ScreenCast or Tailor might be made to do something like this.
Realize, though, that what you're asking for may not be what you
wanted. Applications often download "prologs" of useful functions.
A separate application doesn't know what state in another applications
context is necessary or not for proper drawing in response to a
drawSelf::. That means the capture EPS would have to include
anything from userdict, shareddict, and any other dictionary on the
dictionary stack that looked even remotely strange, so the captured
EPS could end up being quite large.
Although, you could also take another tack and try and replace all
the operators underneath the application, and then capture only the
raw drawing. This is also a reasonably hard way to go about it,
but it would get you smaller, faster code. This is tricker, as any
prologs that have been downloaded that have been bound aren't going
to do what you'd like them to - you'd essentially have to capture
the app as it starts up, before it's downloaded anything, to get
your dictionary patch in place.
There are security concerns with all of this, and I'm not even quite
sure what's possible. But those are the basic methods.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PNI config question
Date: 25 Feb 1994 18:44:44 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2klgus$af2@netnews.upenn.edu>
Regarding TransSys PNI1.7beta:
-- Our slip server dynamically doles out both the client
IP address (NeXT) and the server IP address (annex).
Is it possible to assign both of these with ifconfig?
-- I'm using an Hayes compat (Intel) modem, but I didn't
see a dialer for it. Is the Zyxel Hayes compatable.
Thanks a bunch.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: haibach@monte.chem.brown.edu (Fred Haibach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Edit.app and Fortran?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 25 Feb 1994 19:10:13 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <haibach-250294140230@dollmac.chem.brown.edu>
References: <haibach-170294000553@dollmac.chem.brown.edu>
In article <haibach-170294000553@dollmac.chem.brown.edu>,
haibach@monte.chem.brown.edu (F. Haibach) wrote:
> I want to know if anybody has experience editing Fortran files using
> Edit.app. I realize emacs is available from cs.orst.edu, but I don't know
> if I want to use that yet.
>
> The problem is setting up the class for Fortran files. Has anyone
> customized the "mode" in Preferences?
I got only a couple of replies (I know that there are more users of
Edit.app and Fortran than that out there.) The respondents have only edited
the C-class to include ".f" type files.
I wanted to get a little deeper than that into this. Does anyone know how
to edit the files containing the classes so I can *customize* Edit.app so
it responds like I want it to. If you know if this has been done or who I
can e-mail for direction, please contact me.
FgH...
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From: david@colossus.pfm-mainz.de (David Andel)
Subject: Re: NeXTWORLD reliability (was: lt sullivan and frame)
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.190855.348@colossus.pfm-mainz.de>
Sender: david@colossus.pfm-mainz.de
Organization: WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 19:08:55 GMT
In article <CLqK7A.GzE@cs.uiuc.edu> eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric
de_la_Tribouille) writes:
[...]
-> > March? I just got my February issue yesterday and I have a
-> > subscription. What did they do, publish both at once?
-> >
-> > Are there any professionals working at NeXTWorld?
-> >
-> > Terry Wilcox
-> >
[...]
->
->I received the march issue last week (in Switzerland) ! and the
->february one... one month ago !
->
->Alexander Lamb
-
-The problem does not seem to come from NeXTWorld, but from their
-publisher IDG!
-The team of NeXTWorld is very good !
-
-Best regards,
-
-Eric
[...]
Concerning the subscription via Airmail to Europe (means basic rate plus
$40 shipping a year), I had no problems up to now - I received the march
issue at the same time as Alexander did.
*But* try to order back issues (in Europe)... I tried that many many times
- without any result (fax, letter, email etc.). *This* NeXTWORLD (or IDG)
service is simply nonexistant! In addition to that, they are asking
$18/outside US for every single back issue (*if* you can get one...) -
why??? I would highly appreciate it, if there is anybody in the world who
can help me to complete my collection of NeXTWORLD or who knows a
workaround for this annoying logistical bug.
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lack of basic edit controls in NS
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 14:12:08 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <shPYq8O00WBK45OUUS@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Feb22.172911.1884@afs.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 22-Feb-94 Re: Lack of
basic edit cont.. by Michael Pizolato@afs.com
> You emacs guys are like TV preachers, always trying to force the
> rest of us to convert to your petty little religion. Bring on the
> Inquisitors, I'm ready! :-) :-) :-)
Emacs: M-x begin-inquisition
Mike: No! Help! Presses the <End> key.
Emacs: M-x torture-mode
Mike: NNOOO! AAARRRGGGHH !! [ coagulate ]
Please, no more! <End> <End> <End>
Emacs: M-x dissassociated-press
Imke: HLep me! I'm argbled! <NDE> Leph! <EDN>
Emacs: M-x brainwash-user
Mike: Emacs is my friend. Emacs likes me. I like Emacs. [ whimper ]
Emacs: C-x C-c
:-) 8-) 3-)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
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From: bohus@math.lsa.umich.edu (Geza Bohus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Freehand and PowerPoint on Next?
Date: 25 Feb 1994 19:46:52 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2klkjc$41u@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Hi,
I'd like to know what presentation and graphics programs are available
on the Next. In particular, do Microsoft PowerPoint and Aldus
Freehand exist? We need to be able to transfer files made with these
on the Mac to the Next. Is this possible? Has anyone done it?
Please also send email, so that I don't miss your posted answer. If
there's interest, I'll summarize. Thanks in advance,
Geza
bohus@umich.edu
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with NeXTTeX
Date: 25 Feb 1994 19:31:17 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
Message-ID: <SOWA.94Feb25113117@amdew.llnl.gov>
References: <2kjuu6$p1e@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
In-reply-to: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu's message of 24 Feb 1994 20:31:02 -0800
>>>>> "Pitak" == Pitak Chenkosol <pitakc@ee.pdx.edu> writes:
Pitak> I used TeXview app. to view the dvi file, it looks fine. After I
Pitak> used dvips to convert the dvi file to a postscript file then view
Pitak> with Preview.app, I noticed that the postscript output looks much
Pitak> worse than the dvi output. There is a noticeable reduction in
Pitak> resolution of the postscript output.
Pitak> This is probably due to the resolution of the monitor, I thought,
Pitak> so I sent the ps file to the Laserjet III at school. That didn't
Pitak> solve the problem, it still looks ugly. The resolution of the
Pitak> hardcopy is much less than the dvi output that I viewed with
Pitak> TeXview.
Standard TeX fonts are bitmaps, not outline, and you must use the right
resolution for the device in question. I would be willing to bet you are
printing a .dvi file that wants a 400-dpi printer on a 300dpi
printer. The easiest way to get this right with TeXview is to call up
the Print panel, adjust the resolution using the appropriate popup list,
and then Save it to a file that you will send to the Laserjet. Or you
can just give the appropriate argument to dvips.
--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
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From: pavneet@cyantic.com (Pavneet Arora)
Subject: Problems with getting FrameMaker PS to print elsewhere
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:58:38 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.185838.4056@cyantic.com>
We have some artwork that we have produced under FrameMaker using the
Minion typeface. We saved to a PS file in the 'Print...' panel with the
'Normal device-independent...' option set. When we sent this PS file to
our print bureau, they can print the artwork, but all the Minion is
converted to Courier. From their description, it would appear that
character placement is being done using the Minion font metrics (the
characters are scrunched up), but the typeface is Courier.
Does anyone have any experience with this type of set-up, or hints as
to possible areas to look into.
advTHANKSance
--
Cheers,
- pavneet
.................................................................
Pavneet Arora -- pavneet@cyantic.com ------------ CYANTIC Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Changing hostname
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 19:37:24 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.193724.4374@cyantic.com>
I would like to change the hostname of one Nextstation on the network.
Is this a simple matter of changing the name in Host Manager, or will that
not percolate through all of Netinfo.
The network does not have a Netinfo server at the present time, though
there are two NextStations on the wire.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166
1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Giving Access to NXFax Modem
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 19:39:55 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.193955.4480@cyantic.com>
We have tried several times to set an NXFax Modem to Public access. Each
time PrintManager has crashed leaving the Fax System disabled.
There is no error message, so we don't know why it crashed.
This procedure should be the same as making a printer public, shouldn't it?
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166
1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tip black to white HELP
Date: 25 Feb 1994 20:19:25 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2klmgd$74n@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I have routinely "tip"ed my app from black
to black hardware. I just installed on white
hardware and have transfered (with tip) small
files balck to white. When i try to transfer my
tarred, compressed and uuencoded app (at 2.6MB)
the transfer loses 40 bytes. Needles to say,
that is a complete failure. In summary
black to black tip of large files works
black to white fails.
any help out there??
I also tried white to white, but even though
i had a tip cub9600 connection, the
transfer rate was 2400 baud, to slow
to test the large file transfer.
any help out there?
advTHANKSance
jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Freehand and PowerPoint on Next?
Date: 25 Feb 1994 21:04:11 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2klp4b$qvi@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2klkjc$41u@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
In article <2klkjc$41u@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> bohus@math.lsa.umich.edu
(Geza Bohus) writes:
> I'd like to know what presentation and graphics programs are available
> on the Next. In particular, do Microsoft PowerPoint and Aldus
> Freehand exist? We need to be able to transfer files made with these
> on the Mac to the Next. Is this possible? Has anyone done it?
>
> Please also send email, so that I don't miss your posted answer. If
> there's interest, I'll summarize. Thanks in advance,
>
Geza,
Aldus FreeHand exists in the NeXT world as Altsys' Virtuoso (altsys is
licensing to Aldus their technology [right Lorin] and the user interface is
almost exactly it is as on the Mac or Windoze side of the court...one of the
primary advantages of course, is Display PostScript which makes just too much
sense in the Macintosh (DTP/Graphics dominated world).
PowerPoint has Concurrence on our side which maybe by the summer will be able
to import both PowerPoint and Aldus Persuasion files.
Dave
--
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A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax]
NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jamantle@maplesoft.on.ca (Jim Mantle)
Subject: Re: No more Maple on NEXTSTEP !(?)
Message-ID: <CLstJv.M8o@maplesoft.on.ca>
Sender: news@maplesoft.on.ca (News File Owner)
Organization: Waterloo Maple Software Inc.
References: <1994Feb21.153509.6712@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 21:11:53 GMT
In article <1994Feb21.153509.6712@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>,
Gregor Hoffleit <flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
>I just was told by our local campus consultant that Waterloo won't release
>their Maple V Rel. 2 on NEXTSTEP! I'm really sorry about this because
<Stuff deleted>
We wouldn't want to upset you, or any other of our Maple V for NeXT
users. The current release of Maple for NeXT is Maple V, also known
as Maple V Release 1. We have not yet shipped Maple V Release 2 for NeXT.
Look for a MVR2 "now shipping" announcement with a month. We're
in the final stages of beta.
Release 2 will require NEXTSTEP 3.x, and be available for both
Intel and blackbox.
Pricing and upgrade policies will be publicized coincident with the
availability announcement.
Jim Mantle
R&D
Waterloo Maple Software
Me: jamantle@maplesoft.on.ca
Technical Support: support@maplesoft.on.ca
General Information: info@maplesoft.on.ca
Maple Summer Workshop & Symposium August'94: msws@maplesoft.on.ca
From: dlincke@sgcl1.unisg.ch (David-Michael Lincke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Gopherd 2.0 pl11 on NSI 3.2: Segmentation fault
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.213613.1540@sgcl1.unisg.ch>
Date: 25 Feb 94 21:36:13 MET
Organization: The VooDoo Club (tm)
Has anyone succeeded in running the Gopher+ 2.0 pl11 Server on NSI 3.2?
It compiles ok, but crashes immmediately with a segmentation fault when run.
This happens with both the generic version and if WAIS is compiled in.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Davide
--
David-Michael Lincke
dlincke@sgcl1.unisg.ch
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Look up "gullible" in Webster
Date: 25 Feb 1994 20:18:01 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2klmdp$kcc@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2kkr6t$9do@agate.berkeley.edu>
izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> | chaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> | izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> |> Look up the word "gullible" in Webster.
> |> (It may not work if your system is not set up for ...).
> |
> | Hey, give us an explanation of what should happen. With me
> | (black NS3.0) nothing special happens. Just a word from 1818.
>
> I suppose it's OK to explain now.
>
> What should happen is that your picture (current console user's
> picture) in /LocalLibrary/Images/People is displayed with the title
> "gullible." Obviously, you have to have the picture database set
> up for Mail.app.
>
> Wierd thing is that I can't seem to get it to work with Webster on
> Black NS3.2. It seems to work only with Webster on NS/Intel with
> NS3.2 (I don't know if it's in 3.1 NSI). This is not fair. Why
> only NSI owners get the fun. Should I file a bug report?
It works on my NeXTstation, running NS-3.2. For what it's worth,
my faces database on this system (which is black-ice) has both:
gad.tiff
and gad.black-ice.its.rpi.edu.tiff
setup. Presumably it's the gad.tiff one which is important.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: begonia@abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Look up "gullible" in Webster
Date: 25 Feb 1994 23:30:46 GMT
Organization: Abstract Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2km1n6$45c@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <1994Feb25.090615.3903@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <2kkr6t$9do@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <2kkr6t$9do@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes:
>In article <1994Feb25.090615.3903@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem
>van Schaik) writes:
>>izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>>
>>>Look up the word "gullible" in Webster.
>>>(It may not work if your system is not set up for ...).
>>
>>Hey, give us an explanation of what should happen. With me (black NS3.0)
>>nothing special happens. Just a word from 1818.
>
>I suppose it's OK to explain now.
>
>What should happen is that your picture (current console user's
>picture) in /LocalLibrary/Images/People is displayed with the title
>"gullible." Obviously, you have to have the picture database set
>up for Mail.app.
>
>Wierd thing is that I can't seem to get it to work with Webster on
>Black NS3.2. It seems to work only with Webster on NS/Intel with
>NS3.2 (I don't know if it's in 3.1 NSI). This is not fair. Why
>only NSI owners get the fun. Should I file a bug report?
It "works" fine for me and I'm running 3.2 on Black hardware.
Actually I am quite gullible and it should pull up my picture no
matter whose looking up the word. :)
--
Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush ``Another one of the flock following the herd.''
Abstract Software P.O. Box 25045 Seattle, WA 98125 206/361-5080
e-mail: begonia@abstractsoft.com NeXTmail accepted with glee!
From: vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (Vadim S. Kaplunovsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dynamically allocated IP address for SLIP?
Date: 26 Feb 1994 01:16:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2km7t6$ant@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2kjvjm$h3g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In article <2kjvjm$h3g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
varun@axis.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes:
>..............
> $DIALER rexpect {Your IP address is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+)}
> #
> # We now ifconfig the interface, using the IP address given us from
> # cisco-ts2/UOnet
> #
> exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 $1
> #
> syslog LOG_INFO "My IP address should be $1"
I have a similar code in login-telesys.tcl that I use when SLIPing into
UT telesys. For the Unix-level TCP/IP stuff, this is enough.
My trouble is establishing NS connection on top of TCP/IP. That is, once I
telnet to a NeXT in my office, I want run NS applications and display the
output on my home NeXT connected via SLIP. Alas, when I try something like
% /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail -NXHost slip-2-69.ots.utexas.edu
(slip-2-69.... being the network name of the current SLIP session), all I get
is "DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host
slip-2-69.ots.utexas.edu" because the SLIP-connected NeXT does not recognize
its network NAME (as opposed to the NUMERIC IP address).
I tried the obvious
# hostname slip-2-69.ots.utexas.edu
# kill -USR2 [pid of the nmserver]
in an su-root shell before trying to display back, but it did not work.
If anybody on this NET knows how to make display-back work for NeXTs
connected via SLIP with dynamically assigned IP and NET.NAME,
PLEASE POST, or at least send me e-mail.
**********************************************************************
Vadim S. Kaplunovsky, | #include <std_disclaimer.h>
Assistant Professor of Physics, | NeXTMail OK.
University of Texas at Austin. | My English isn't THAT bad,
vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu | but my typing stinks:-(.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: ImageViewer - WHERE?
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.205800.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 01:58:00 GMT
Where can I find ImageViewer? My copy was accidently deleted and when I
checked the cs.orst site I couldn't find it?
Scott Davenport
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Internet Mail Only
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Re: Look up "gullible" in Webster
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.185542.5738@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
References: <2kkr6t$9do@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:55:42 GMT
In article <2kkr6t$9do@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
(Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> In article <1994Feb25.090615.3903@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem
> van Schaik) writes:
> >izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> >
> >>Look up the word "gullible" in Webster.
> >>(It may not work if your system is not set up for ...).
> >
> >Hey, give us an explanation of what should happen. With me (black
NS3.0)
> >nothing special happens. Just a word from 1818.
>
> I suppose it's OK to explain now.
>
> What should happen is that your picture (current console user's
> picture) in /LocalLibrary/Images/People is displayed with the title
> "gullible." Obviously, you have to have the picture database set
> up for Mail.app.
>
> Wierd thing is that I can't seem to get it to work with Webster on
> Black NS3.2. It seems to work only with Webster on NS/Intel with
> NS3.2 (I don't know if it's in 3.1 NSI). This is not fair. Why
> only NSI owners get the fun. Should I file a bug report?
>
> Or perhaps, NeXT thinks that you are gullible if you are a kind of
> person who buys a 486 PC to run NEXTSTEP. Black hardware owners
> have good judgement and therefore not gullible. That makes sense. :-)
It worked just fine on both my black and white 3.2 hardware. I guess I
really am gullible.
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
From: premise@volt.engin.umich.edu (sean michael willson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP
Date: 26 Feb 1994 04:41:52 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kmjugINNffv@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Originator: premise@volt.engin.umich.edu
Is there a FAQ on slip? I would like to learn more about it. If anyone has anything on slip could you please send it to me. I can get NeXT mail at
premise@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
Any help would be great! THANKX!!!!!!!
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From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au
Subject: Taylor uucp setup
Message-ID: <CLt20z.43A@number_one.apana.org.au>
Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nikki A Vincent)
Organization: Cafe Seacombe - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 00:14:58 GMT
Hi
Thanx to all those who responded to my previous question about setting up
Taylor uucp for compilation.
Unfortunately, I still am getting an annoying error which I do not know
how to solve (not being overly conversant with C). Below is the message I
keep getting upon trying to make it:
cc -c -O -g -I./.. -I.. -DSBINDIR=\"/usr/local/lib/uucp\" -DOWNER=\"uucp\"
fsusg.c
fsusg.c: In function `get_fs_usage':
fsusg.c:120: storage size of `fsd' isn't known
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
If anyone has any suggestions, please do forward them to me as I am
totally perplexed.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cheers
Nicole
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----------------------NeXTmail Accepted and preferred --------------------
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SYDNEY NSW AUSTRALIA
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they gonna cancel the 6 o'clock news? watch out or it will get you.
WIRED, February 1994, pp. 50. ME :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Dynamically allocated IP address for SLIP?
In-Reply-To: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu's message of 24 Feb 1994 21:49:59 GMT
To: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb25183217@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2kj7e7$hfe@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 23:32:17 GMT
In article <2kj7e7$hfe@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) writes:
Our slip server dynamically allocates IP address for dial-in slip
connections. I have just finished reading the documentataion for
TransSys PNI1.7beta, and can find no mention of dynamically
allocated IP address in the "point -to-point" connection scheme. Is
anyone using slip software on NSI 3.2, dialing into a slip server
that dynamically allocates IP addresses? If so, I would greatly
appreciate hearing how you are doing it. thanks.
It can be done if you know a little TCL and are willing to parse the
message which tells you what the address of your SLIP interface should
be. However, the complications, breakage and pain which constantly
changing IP addresses lead to (both for you and for your network admin
when you become sophisticated and start to circumvent dynamic
assignment) are just too much for me to advise anyone to do this.
Instead go ask, implore, beg, cajole, entreat, beseech and threaten
your network admin into Doing The Honorable Thing which is in this
case of course going to assignment of host name and IP address based on
a password scheme. For most SLIP servers this is just a matter of
flipping a few switches.
Carl Edman
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Disk Labels
Date: 26 Feb 1994 10:18:32 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2kn7lo$f5k@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2kid2e$p9c@gateway.wiltel.com>
In article <2kid2e$p9c@gateway.wiltel.com> terry_marrs@wiltel.com
(Terry Marrs) writes:
>Anyone know of a program that will print disk labels on a laser printer?
>Anyone got a template for any word processor or drawing program to print
>disk labels?? Thanks in advance!
Digging into the archives from December 1992...
Here's a template for Avery 5196 (3 1/2" diskette) labels.
The first thing to change is the definition of "guides" to false;
this gives you "blank" labels. Leave "outlines" true for now.
Drag this into your favorite drawing program, send it to the
back, and lock it in place. Be artistic.
Print what you have to plain paper. Verify that the printed
outlines correspond to the actual labels! Then Print...>Save
the page to a disk file, open that .ps file in Edit and change
"outlines" to false. Then lpr onto label stock.
-=EPS=-
------- Avery-5196.eps
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0
%%Title: Avery-5196.eps
%%For: eps
%%DocumentFonts: Courier-Bold Helvetica-Narrow-Bold
%%Pages: 0 1
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 612 792
%%EndComments
%%EndProlog
gsave
2 dict begin
/outlines true def % draw label outlines
/guides true def % draw placement guides
0 setgray
0 setlinecap
[
[9 558] [207 558] [405 558]
[9 342] [207 342] [405 342]
[9 126] [207 126] [405 126]
] {
aload pop
0.015 setlinewidth
outlines {
2 copy 6 add moveto
0 186 rlineto
currentpoint exch 6 add exch 6 180 90 arcn
186 0 rlineto
currentpoint 6 sub 6 90 0 arcn
0 -186 rlineto
currentpoint exch 6 sub exch 6 0 270 arcn
-186 0 rlineto
currentpoint 6 add 6 270 180 arcn
closepath stroke
} if
guides {
2 copy 51 add moveto 198 0 rlineto stroke
0.5 setlinewidth
exch 9 add exch
2 copy 79 add moveto 180 0 rlineto stroke
2 copy 101.5 add moveto 180 0 rlineto stroke
2 copy 124 add moveto 180 0 rlineto stroke
2 copy 146.5 add moveto 180 0 rlineto stroke
2 copy 169 add moveto 180 0 rlineto stroke
/Courier-Bold findfont [15 0 0 10 0 0] makefont setfont
2 copy 186 add moveto (PHONY) show
/Helvetica-Narrow-Bold findfont 7 scalefont setfont
moveto 140 (INDEX) stringwidth pop sub
187 rmoveto { pop pop 10 0 rmoveto } (INDEX) kshow
} { pop pop } ifelse
} bind forall
outlines {
0.015 setlinewidth
[
[9 83] [108 83] [207 83] [306 83] [405 83] [504 83]
[9 40] [108 40] [207 40] [306 40] [405 40] [504 40]
] {
aload pop 4 add moveto
0 28 rlineto
currentpoint exch 4 add exch 4 180 90 arcn
91 0 rlineto
currentpoint 4 sub 4 90 0 arcn
0 -28 rlineto
currentpoint exch 4 sub exch 4 0 270 arcn
-91 0 rlineto
currentpoint 4 add 4 270 180 arcn
closepath stroke
} bind forall
} if
end
grestore
%%Trailer
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: Frame to rtfd
Message-ID: <CLtnv2.D7@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
References: <1994Feb21.171952.25984@altsys.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 08:06:38 GMT
In article <1994Feb21.171952.25984@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin
Rivers III) writes:
> I want to convert some Frame documents to rtfd format so I can
include
> the Virtuoso documentation on line with the next NeXT release. Anyone
> out there know of a solution? Many thanks in advance!
>
>
> --
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> NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
> 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
> Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Please possible answers for it open on the net.
thanks.
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From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: term for NeXT (black)
Date: 26 Feb 1994 08:08:45 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <2kn02d$1li6@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
References: <MJANTTI.94Feb25165152@medusa.abo.fi>
In article <MJANTTI.94Feb25165152@medusa.abo.fi>,
Markus Jantti STA <mjantti@medusa.abo.fi> wrote:
>Anyone have any experience of running term, a program
>enabling 'SLIP-like' features over a modem connection?
>
I've been running term 1.08 for a couple of months now.
If memory serves me correctly, it compiled without any
problems. I run it from a kermit connection at 2400 baud,
so my connection speed is low, but I haven't had any
problems.
It's not a complete SLIP substitute, but it's a great
deal more than just a single vt100 connection!
john
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From: thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: SoftPC on BLACK hardware questions
Message-ID: <1994Feb25.165557.1084@gamelan.uucp>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.uucp (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <CLonLz.A7D@dove.nist.gov>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 16:55:57 GMT
In article <CLonLz.A7D@dove.nist.gov> eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov
(Eric) writes:
> compatibility with my supervisor, I am considering running SoftPC
> + WIN + MS-Word.
>
> Would the performance of this software be acceptable on a NeXTstation
> Turbo Color?
No, forget it. You can do small things, but it's a pain to do real work
with SoftPC/Moto - just too slow.
From: u7913108@CCCA.NCTU.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: ReelMagic -- multimedia in life
Date: 26 Feb 1994 12:14:31 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2knef7$36a@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Hi, I came back from our local Multimedia Show, and found something
interesting call *ReelMagic*.
With it, you can see the MTV or movie (Video CD, MPEG CD-title also called
CD-i). You can get full-motion by the card.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Real Video Magic with ReelMagic
Sigma Designs has released *ReelMagic* an MPEG multimedia play back
controller card for PC's. It delivers full screen, full motion and full
color video with CD quality sound from a standard CD-ROM.
ReelMagic is based on MPEG compression standard used by many multimedia
software companies. These MPEG capabilities will allow standard PC's to take
advantage of the upcoming VideoCD standard. VideoCD allows movie, TV shows
and videos to be played from a standard CD-ROM. It is a multiplatform
standard backed by the VideoCD consortium, which includes 3DO, Phillips,
Sony, JVC, Masushita, Goldstar and samsung. There are already major movie
studios committed to supply films in the VideoCD format.
MPEG can achieve compression ratios as high as 200 to 1 allowing high
quality audio and video to be played directly from a single speed CD-ROM.
ReelMagic is already supported by 12 entertainment and multimedia titles
and the first Video CD titles are expected at the end of 93.
The card comes with an easy to use installation program on CD-ROM, a full
array of drivers and system software, utilities and a MPEG game.
Price:$449
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The article is from Multi Media magazine, maybe it is illeagle to post it
on Net. But I think it can give you an overview about the card.
Maybe someone will want to write a driver for it.
It also show the light for the DSP bundle with NeXT workstation or the DSP
card. I am very interesting with the DSP card for my NeXTSTEP/FIP computer.
Maybe they can write a player App. If anyone have the experience with the
DSP card, please let me know. I want to know the compatibility of the card
with workstation.
Also like to see if someone will want to write a driver for ReelMagic,
it's not bad.
Hope you enjoy it
Mark
PS:1. I don't have OCR, so if there is something mistake in the article,
maybe it's the mistake of my typing.
2. Not NeXTmail to this account
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: DOS driver for NEXT CDROM drv
Message-ID: <CLu2yI.2Ix@nyro.com>
Keywords: cdrom next driver dos
Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - 415 664-1170
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 13:32:41 GMT
Where can I find a driver to use my NeXT CDROM under DOS 6.x?
If you have a copy feel free to NeXTmail it.
Thanks for any pointers.
ihs
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From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Re: term for NeXT (black)
Message-ID: <6BDMBMZD@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <MJANTTI.94Feb25165152@medusa.abo.fi>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 16:16:07 GMT
Markus J{ntti STA (mjantti@medusa.abo.fi) wrote:
> Anyone have any experience of running term, a program
> enabling 'SLIP-like' features over a modem connection?
When my NeXT (black) has been at home, I used term 1.0.8
to connect to our local university host. Just take
it from the Linux distributions and compile. There
are two main difficulties:
1) get the correct line parameters (linecheck). It's
*really* bad if your university has multiple modems
behaving differently... :-(
2) get term clients and compile them. that's not always
possible, but the most important parts work.
I used the redirector (tredir) and ncftp, therefore
I had telnet access to some hosts (no general telnet,
as I couldn't compile term-telnet), and full ftp access.
One redirect of port 119 enabled news, ...
Ciao, Stephan
p.s. if you need more info, send me en email, but I'd
suggest, you just try it. The readme is quite good.
Start by compiling term and linecheck on both sides
of the link. Run linecheck, to get line info. Create
.term/termrc on both sides of the link, don't forget
"remote" at the remote end.
Have Fun!
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dwells@world.std.com (David Wells)
Subject: Help! I'm a SLIP moron!
Message-ID: <CLuDG3.D3z@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 17:19:14 GMT
Just when I though I was getting the hang of this unix thing, I tried ti install SLIP on my 040 station running 3.0. I think I have most of the configuration done right, but I get messages like "port 190 unavailable" and "dev/dialup1 no such device". I'm not having any luck treing to glean what I need from the the docs, a reflection more of my own stupidity than the quality of the docs, I suspect. Does anyone have a way to set up one machine to a unix-based slip remote server? If you could point me to
some other docs, that would be great to. I've been working all morning, and would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks in advance,
Dave Wells
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: laurent@planon.qc.ca (Laurent Daudelin)
Subject: Re: Help with bundle.registry ???
Message-ID: <1994Feb26.172425.16353@planon.qc.ca>
Sender: laurent@planon.qc.ca
References: <CLoz8J.160@world.std.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 17:24:25 GMT
In article <CLoz8J.160@world.std.com> tdion@world.std.com (Tim J Dion) writes:
>
> I am trying to extend the functionality of Workspace Managers
> Inspector panels and have run into a snag. The new inspector does not
> seem to be registering with WM correctly. I think the problem comes
> from the bundle.registry file but I am not to sure. Can anyone point
> me in the direction of a working Contents Inspector on the net that
> shows exactly how things fit together? A working example would
> definitely help me along.
>
> On the same lines, after getting the contents inspector up and
> running, I am going to try and add an inspector onto the normal
> pulldown in the Inspector Panel (Attributes, Contents, Tools, Access
> and foo), any suggestions for approaching this problem would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks for any help...
>
Tim:
Make sure you have a file named bundle.registry in your project. In this file,
you should have something like:
{type=InspectorCommand; mode=contents; extension=source;
selp=selectionOneOnly; class=FBInspector}
S source FBInspector source
The first line instructs the Workspace that you will act as a content
inspector, on files that have the extension "source". You also supply the
class of your inspector, which is, in the above example, FBInspector.
The second line will instruct the Workspace that everytime it has to display
the icon of a file that has extension "source", to use the icon in the document
"source.tiff", that has to be part of your project.
In your Makefile.preamble, you must add the following line:
BUNDLELDFLAGS = -sectcreate __ICON __header bundle.registry -sectcreate __ICON
source source.tiff
It tells the compiler to look in the bundle.registry to build the mach header
that will be used by the Workspace. It's also insure that if you make changes
to the file bundle.registry, ProjectBuilder will know that it has to recompile
your bundle.
Finally, don't forget that your bundle must be in the folder /LocalApps, or in
the folder /Apps in your home directory.
You must log off and log in to see if everything is working.
Hope this will help.
Laurent.
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From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF)
Subject: Gator FTP+ email address?
Message-ID: <1994Feb26.193557.12797@afit.af.mil>
Keywords: ftp Gator FTP+
Sender: news@afit.af.mil
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 19:35:57 GMT
For anyone who knows much about Gator FTP+:
Does anyone know an email address for the writer(s) of Gator FTP+ ?
Is there any way in the current version of Gator to rename a file as you
are sending or getting it?
Is there any way to get Gator to display soft linked directories/files?
Any help would be appreciated.
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From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Gator FTP for Intel
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 94 17:12:53 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <xAxpGr9.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <1994Feb24.173455.29828@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Terry:
Mike Mezzino is the author and a good friend of mine. He is visiting
us in Anchorage this week. I'll have him contact you with the info.
:-)
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS-Grab window?
Date: 27 Feb 1994 00:22:06 GMT
Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kop3e$bnp@Times.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Feb25.183534.6490@adobe.com>
Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> writes
|
| [ worries about prologs in capturing window PS code ]
|
Should Window's printPScode: take care of such things? Or is there
something I'm missing?
---
Scott Roy
Department of Computer Science
Stanford University
From: rlion@think.digex.net (rebel lion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: anybody got a good program to stick a tiff in the background?
Date: 27 Feb 1994 00:58:13 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <2kor75$onq@news1.digex.net>
I wanna stick a tiff in the background of my workspace, i know backspace
will do it, but it *eats* cpu time for breakfast!
--
Eli Rosenblatt [rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)]
/\ Rebellion Systems
\/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, Repair, and Sales
From: russ@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (Clifford R. Bowers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HP Deskjet 1200C/PS .ppd file
Date: 27 Feb 1994 02:51:33 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <2kp1rlINNd4j@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Keywords: printer, color, ppd file
Hi,
I have an HP Deskjet 1200C/PS color printer connected up to my NextStation
via the Novel and using a Jetdirect card. Its a fine printer, and
everything works o.k. using either the "generic" color printer .ppd file
or the LaserJet III w/ ps cartridge, but it would be nice to use all the
printers features (manual feed, etc.) by having a .ppd file especially for
this printer. Has anyone got such a file?
Thanks.
Russ Bowers
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC on BLACK hardware questions
Date: 27 Feb 1994 03:30:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kp451$fbd@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <bchin.762026582@news.andi.org>
In article <bchin.762026582@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
Chin) writes:
> eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric) writes:
>
> >In the need of a good word processing package, a good equation editor
and
> >compatibility with my supervisor, I am considering running
> >SoftPC + WIN + MS-Word.
>
> While I would normally say run native apps, like WriteUp +
EquationBuilder
> or FrameMaker, I can understand the need to be "fully compliant".
>
> >Would the performance of this software be acceptable on a NeXTstation
Turbo
> >Color? I'm (still) running 3.0 so I don't have a SoftPC demo.
>
> In a word, no. It's way too sluggish - if Insignia would
> update it to use interceptor ports, it probably would be acceptable.
> But they are not.
Lord, is that ever right. I was willing to give it a try even after
receiving similar advice; perhaps you have to try it to understand. We're
talking a whole new dimension to the concept of SLOWNESS. Winword under
SoftPC Black could give lessons to a few glaciers I've seen.
> You'd be much better off running ARDI's Executor with Word
> for the Mac on your Motorola box. On an Intel, by all means run
> SoftPC w/ Windows unless you can't stand 8.3 filenames.
> The problem with Executor is that it doesn't support color
> and multiple applications running in the same Mac universe.
He's right about the lack of color support. But you CAN run multiple mac
applications at the same time, and cut and paste between them. ARDI
actually went to a fair deal of trouble to get the EquationEditor that
comes with MSWord 5.x to work. It does. One touchy-feely benchmark as to
how much better a product Executor is than SoftPC (hold the flames...) is
this: the port of Executor to DOS, running on a 386/40 (!!) does a better
job with Word/Mac than SoftPC, running on an 040/33, does with Winword. I
swear it's true.
> None are ideal solutions - it's a matter of what
> you're willing to put up with.
>
>
> --
> Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
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From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with NeXTTeX
Date: 27 Feb 1994 04:54:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA
Message-ID: <2kp92o$6fa@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
References: <SOWA.94Feb25113117@amdew.llnl.gov>
In article <SOWA.94Feb25113117@amdew.llnl.gov> sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik
C. Sowa) writes:
> >>>>> "Pitak" == Pitak Chenkosol <pitakc@ee.pdx.edu> writes:
>
> Pitak> I used TeXview app. to view the dvi file, it looks fine. After I
> Pitak> used dvips to convert the dvi file to a postscript file then view
> Pitak> with Preview.app, I noticed that the postscript output looks much
> Pitak> worse than the dvi output. There is a noticeable reduction in
> Pitak> resolution of the postscript output.
>
> Pitak> This is probably due to the resolution of the monitor, I thought,
> Pitak> so I sent the ps file to the Laserjet III at school. That didn't
> Pitak> solve the problem, it still looks ugly. The resolution of the
> Pitak> hardcopy is much less than the dvi output that I viewed with
> Pitak> TeXview.
>
> Standard TeX fonts are bitmaps, not outline, and you must use the right
> resolution for the device in question. I would be willing to bet you are
> printing a .dvi file that wants a 400-dpi printer on a 300dpi
> printer. The easiest way to get this right with TeXview is to call up
> the Print panel, adjust the resolution using the appropriate popup list,
> and then Save it to a file that you will send to the Laserjet. Or you
> can just give the appropriate argument to dvips.
>
> --
> erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
The file /NextLibrary/TeX/tex/ps/config.ps had a default resolution set at
400. I changed this to 300 since the printers I print to are 300dpi. I
think dvips reads this file for default configurations.
Michael
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From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Mac <--> Next Email
Message-ID: <1994Feb26.115040.3973@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <2kkaro$ggr@nic-nac.CSU.net> <2kkuor$9ub@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 11:50:40 GMT
In article <2kkuor$9ub@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes:
>
>BinHex sucks. At least NeXT mail format is public.
Not officially it isn't. And NeXT mail format implies the use of NeXT's
wierd undocumented version of RTF.
Dave Griffiths
From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOOM question
Date: 26 Feb 94 22:09:11
Organization: Brigham Young University-Math. Dept
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SMITHW.94Feb26220911@sofya.hamblin.math.byu.edu>
A friend without net access asks the following:
"I can't seem to find much of the secret stuff in the
'toxin refinery'. Any one have some hints on what to do?"
You can reply to me and I will pass it on. Thanks.
-Bill
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From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Freehand and PowerPoint on Next?
Date: 27 Feb 1994 06:32:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2klp4b$qvi@inxs.concert.net>
In article <2klp4b$qvi@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm
Shift, Inc.) writes:
> In article <2klkjc$41u@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
bohus@math.lsa.umich.edu
> (Geza Bohus) writes:
> Aldus FreeHand exists in the NeXT world as Altsys' Virtuoso (altsys is
> licensing to Aldus their technology [right Lorin] and the user interface
> is almost exactly it is as on the Mac or Windoze side of the court...
The Virtuoso selling now does not read Freehand files. For that you will
have to wait for the next version, soon to be released (now in beta).
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SlipCommander for INTEL??
Date: 27 Feb 1994 06:40:53 GMT
Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kpf9l$rl0@rain.psg.com>
Is anyone working on a SlipCommander like utility for INTEL..??
--
Steve Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
NeXTmail OK..
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From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: FAT AppSoft Draw?
Message-ID: <CLvzAv.BsE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 14:08:54 GMT
Was there ever a fat version of AppSoft Draw made available?
Does anybody know whether or not it is still possible to
obtain same?
I have a licensed version of the black software, but believe
that I will be in the x86 world soon and would like to continue
using Draw.
Thanks much.
--
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Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
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From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Freehand and PowerPoint on Next?
Date: 27 Feb 1994 14:55:48 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kqc9k$3rv@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd
Takken) writes:
> The Virtuoso selling now does not read Freehand files. For that you will
> have to wait for the next version, soon to be released (now in beta).
>
To be honest, I have never tried opening a native FreeHand or Illustrator file
in Virtuoso, however, Virtuoso does write files in both of those formats.
Dave
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From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Subject: Re: EPS-Grab window?
Message-ID: <1994Feb27.151526.28373@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
References: <2kop3e$bnp@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 15:15:26 GMT
In article <2kop3e$bnp@Times.Stanford.EDU> hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
writes:
> Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> writes
>
> |
> | [ worries about prologs in capturing window PS code ]
> |
>
> Should Window's printPScode: take care of such things? Or is there
> something I'm missing?
>
printPScode doesn't take care of it. I've tried this before I posted my
question. All of Scott Byer's concerns are indeed to be worried about when
writing such an app.
Yet as it seems nobody has ventured it yet.
Thank you for your help,
--
Moritz Willers
Institute for Theoretical Physics
Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: void (was Re: Problems with StarShipView)
Message-ID: <940225.193656.0t2.rusnews.w164w_-_@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 19:36:56 MST
References: <2hvh1t$mjs@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) writes:
> there used to be a game called Void (not the older NX_Void but a newer
> version). I don't know where it came from and I can't find it again but
> I've played it. Does anyone know where I can get a copy now?
(cleaned-up) strings on the tar file shows:
VoidLogo
void@lighthouse.com
...!uunet!lighthouse!void
+1-301-907-4621
1-800-366-2279
Version 2.0
ByLine
Lighthouse Design, the Lighthouse Design logo, VOID, ``Look behind you,''
and the VOID logo are trademarks of Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
1991 Lighthouse Design, Ltd. All Rights Reserved
--
Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SlipCommander for INTEL??
Date: 27 Feb 1994 16:07:07 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kqgfb$qgv@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2kpf9l$rl0@rain.psg.com>
Steve Kornreich writes
[]Is anyone working on a SlipCommander like utility for INTEL..??
[]
SLIPCommander is FAT already.
TLM
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From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF)
Subject: Re: Gator FTP for Intel
Message-ID: <1994Feb27.190642.11026@afit.af.mil>
Keywords: Gator FTP Mezzino
Sender: news@afit.af.mil
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
References: <xAxpGr9.ecesys@delphi.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 19:06:42 GMT
In article <xAxpGr9.ecesys@delphi.com> ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> writes:
> Terry:
> Mike Mezzino is the author and a good friend of mine. He is visiting
> us in Anchorage this week. I'll have him contact you with the info.
> :-)
Is there an email address somewhere that Mr. Mezzino might accept
questions or suggestions for improvements to Gator FTP?
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* Dept. of Computer Engineering
* Wright-Patterson AFB, OH
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From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOOM vs DOOM
Date: 27 Feb 1994 14:08:20 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402272001.AA15462@PCS.CNU.EDU>
The machine: 486DX2/66, 256K cache, 16mb RAM, Wingine 2mb 16-bit clr board VLB
The question: Will there be a HUGE difference between DOOM for DOS and DOOM
for NeXTSTEP 3.2 as far as gamespeed?? I suppose there will,
correct? I am aware of NS overhead, etc -- and am just hoping
for a rough, ballpark "percentage" slower that DOOM NS will be.
Thanks
bp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stephane@planon.qc.ca
Subject: Re: NeXTWORLD (Was: lt sullivan and frame)
Message-ID: <1994Feb27.212226.3703@planon.qc.ca>
Sender: stephane@planon.qc.ca (Stephane Savard)
References: <2kjd9b$dc0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 21:22:26 GMT
Here in Montreal, Quebec the distribution is more irregular to the
subscriber by mail than in bookstore;
I know at least 6 or 7 sites which sell it. The only problem is that you
better be a regular because copies are going away fast...
In article <2kjd9b$dc0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
(Ian P. Cardenas) writes:
> Alan F. Perry writes
> > It looks like NeXTWorld has a bit of a distribution problem.
>
> I would say it's more than "a bit." Here in Urbana,IL I asked a
local
> bookstore if they carried NeXTWorld and they said they hadn't heard of
it but
> would check with their distributers. I came back a week later and was
told
> that all _five_ of her distributers had never heard or didn't carry the
> magazine. *sigh*
> -Ian
> --
> *x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*
> Love:"Floats like a flower petal, X Ian Cardenas X
> stings like a cattle prod." X CS Major at UIUC X
> -A real stud hombre cybermuffinX icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu X
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: bob@hanszen.rice.edu (Robert Morrison Dana)
Subject: Re: How do I print multiple pages per page?
Message-ID: <CLuotK.4DF@rice.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@rice.edu (News)
Organization: Rice University
References: <2k4i6c$mmu@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 21:24:55 GMT
Kurt D. Bollacker (kdb@pegasus) wrote:
: I have a .ps document that has many pages and I want to print several pages
: per piece of paper. If this were a .rtf file, I'd just use <command>-P in
: "edit" to set "4-UP" for example. But how with .ps? Preview's Page
: Layout doesn't work, and I can't think of a freebie application to do it.
: Buying Tailor is *NOT* an acceptable solution since I don't actually need
: to edit the file. Thanks for any help.
Use "psnup". It is part of the Adobe Transcript package, which comes with
NEXTSTEP. It should do exactly what you want.
-Robert
--
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...masquerading as a mild-mannered Comp Sci senior, Robert leads a
secret double-life as a studly and daring UNIX System Admin for (plug)
Worldcom, a fully connected network service provider for Lotus Notes users.
From: kdb@pegasus (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: MouseX buttons
Date: 28 Feb 1994 02:09:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2krjo7$miv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I have mouseX running on my NSC, but for the life of me, I can't figure out
how to use the "middle" and "right" buttons that would be on a 3 button
mouse. The NeXT left button functions as an X "left" button, but what are
the other 2? I've tried mixing <COMMAND> <ALTERNATE> <SHIFT>, etc... to
no avail. Anybody got suggestions. The documentation doesn't seem to say
anything about it. Thanks for any help.....
Kurt :-)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin +
+ kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: A good ".wav" player?
Date: 27 Feb 1994 21:19:09 -0700
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <2krrbt$do9@vesta.unm.edu>
Can someone recommend a good ".wav" format player and/or
a good program to convert .wav to something like .snd... Something
that I can i can easily play (on Black)...
Any help is thanked!
--Aaron...
--
amb78@unm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Aquarium Backspace Module, DPMS, Time , Mouse
Message-ID: <CLx7qA.9qt@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 06:08:34 GMT
(1)Is there an Intel version of the Aquarium module for Backspace? Mine
won't load...
(2)Energy saving! Is there a DPMS screen saver for the NeXT ? Rather important
I would think given the specs re energy saving, put out by institutions.
(3) Why is my clock changing as I flip in and out of NS/Intel (into Windows)?
(4) Are there any other mouse pointers available? It would be nice to have a
choice.
Thank's,...
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: How do I print multiple pages per page?
Message-ID: <1994Feb27.165235.18825@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <2k4i6c$mmu@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 16:52:35 GMT
In article <2k4i6c$mmu@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> kdb@pegasus (Kurt D.
Bollacker) writes:
> I have a .ps document that has many pages and I want to print several
> pages per piece of paper. If this were a .rtf file, I'd just use
> <command>-P in"edit" to set "4-UP" for example. But how with .ps?
> Preview's PageLayout doesn't work, and I can't think of a freebie
> application to do it. Buying Tailor is *NOT* an acceptable solution
> since I don't actually need to edit the file. Thanks for any help.
>
It won't be that easy but might be done. But it really amounts to an edit
of the PostScript! Since PS is a page layout language the feature you ask
for is actually equal to editing the file.
How I would do the trick:
Take a fairly simple but large enough RTF text file and print it first in
full page then in two or four per page and save the result to file.
Then use diff to find the differences and try to devise the strategy for
inserting the right PS commands in the right place.
Then write some awk-script to do that trick automatically and save it to a
convenient place.
Unfortunately you would have to use Preview to check for correctness,
although you could insert the file directly into the print queue if you
have enough confidence in the result.
Alternatively, get a PostScript guru to do the trick for you ;-)
P.S.: Kurt, your "Return-To:" field is insufficient. Check your setup!
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
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From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Whatever happened to PasteUp?
Date: 28 Feb 1994 10:03:46 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb28100347@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
Whatever happened to all the changes that were supposed to happen to
PasteUp by afs? Have they been delayed because of the delay on WriteUp?
Enquiring minds (and paid up customers) want to know,
Scott
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WWW: http://shrug.org/pages/scott/scottm.html
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: Re: DOOM vs DOOM
Message-ID: <schwettCLxJIr.4Bn@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <9402272001.AA15462@PCS.CNU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 10:23:15 GMT
Well...
>Will there be a HUGE difference between DOOM for DOS and DOOM
>for NeXTSTEP 3.2 as far as gamespeed??
Having played both, I think the issue is not so much speed as effect. Give
each version the same number of pixels to push, and the speed of the display
is very similar. Unfortunately, 320x200 pixels isn't very many when the
display resolution is 1180x832... just a little tiny window. This, when
added to the lack of sound effects, make the NeXTStep version much less
involving.
I was actually pretty impressed by the graphics performance - even when
those 320x200 pixels are scaled up to 640x400, which should put
Doom/NeXTStep at a huge disadvantage, the refresh is nearly as fas as it is
in dos. Say 30% slower. But that's still less than half the screen area!
So play the DOS version!
Mark Schwettmann
P.S. My hardware is fairly similar to yours... dx2/66, 24mb ram, ATI
GUP/VLB 2 megs...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Freehand and PowerPoint on Next?
Message-ID: <1994Feb28.094157.2796@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 09:41:57 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> writes:
> In article <2klp4b$qvi@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm
> Shift, Inc.) writes:
> > In article <2klkjc$41u@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
> bohus@math.lsa.umich.edu
> > (Geza Bohus) writes:
>
> > Aldus FreeHand exists in the NeXT world as Altsys' Virtuoso (altsys is
> > licensing to Aldus their technology [right Lorin] and the user
interface
> > is almost exactly it is as on the Mac or Windoze side of the court...
>
> The Virtuoso selling now does not read Freehand files. For that you will
> have to wait for the next version, soon to be released (now in beta).
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
Uh, the version I bought mid last year certainly does. No problems reading
Freehnd files right off a Mac disk.
-Robert
--
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Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15
Robert Frank
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
Switzerland
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Whatever happened to PasteUp?
Date: 28 Feb 1994 04:49:51 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402281051.AA23632@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Hi Scott,
> Whatever happened to all the changes that were supposed
> to happen to PasteUp by afs? Have they been delayed
> because of the delay on WriteUp?
>
PasteUp 2.2 was, I believe, scheduled for release during the first week
or two of March. It's based on the same "engine" as WriteUp, so all
the performance benefits etc. which have accrued from the development
of the wordprocessor will be transferred to PasteUp. It is possible
that shipment may be delayed because of the slip in WriteUp, but I
suspect that it will not be by too long, and the benefits will make the
extra wait seem worthwhile.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: A good ".wav" player?
Date: 28 Feb 1994 04:52:25 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9402281053.AA23670@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
> Can someone recommend a good ".wav" format player and/or
> a good program to convert .wav to something like .snd...
> Something that I can i can easily play (on Black)...
>
Yes, GISO will do what you want, and a lot more besides. It should be
available on most sites (sorry I can't remember where I last saw it).
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cwi@wag.ch (Christoph Widmer)
Subject: Re: Frame to RTFD
Message-ID: <CLxDyD.1Mv@wag.ch>
Keywords: FrameMaker, framemif, RTF
Sender: usenet@wag.ch
Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 08:23:01 GMT
In article <1994Feb21.171952.25984@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin
Rivers
III) writes:
> I want to convert some Frame documents to rtfd format so I can include
> the Virtuoso documentation on line with the next NeXT release. Anyone
> out there know of a solution? Many thanks in advance!
>
We developed a FrameMaker-framemif to RTF Converter (not RTFD). It's
possible to convert fonts, paragraphs, headers, footers ....
Intressted ?
Ask info@wag.ch (NeXTMail welcome)
workstation ag
Rohrstrasse 36/38
CH-8152 Glattbrugg
Switzerland
+41-1-828-95-55
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: smeester@antares (Eric Smeesters)
Subject: Problem using SoundWorks, need help!
Message-ID: <1994Feb28.144250.22531@info.ucl.ac.be>
Keywords: sound, recorder, diskspace
Sender: news@info.ucl.ac.be (News Administrator)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Catholic University of Louvain
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 14:42:50 GMT
Hi,
I've two problems with the program SoundWorks (2.0) from Metaresearch,
could you help me!?
1. When lauching the program, the following error message arises:
Could not find "/"
Setting default record path to "/tmp"
and there isn't anything in the Disk space window, which avoids recording.
But, when the user is root, everything is working fine! No error message,
the right icon is in the disk space window and recording is working
fine...????
2. I don't manage to use other disks of the network. When 'network' is
selected in the pref. panel, several remote disks appear in the disk space
window, but impossible to use them...
If you've any idea that could help me I would be very happy.
Ciao,
Eric
--
Eric Smeesters
email: Smeesters@tele.ucl.ac.be (NeXT email appreciated)
Universite Catholique de Louvain
Laboratoire de Telecommunications et Teledetection
From: davechao@cteq07.pa.msu.edu (David Bowser-Chao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: zmodem, ymodem, ... do they exist on the next
Date: 28 Feb 1994 15:00:54 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <2kt0v6$10h8@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Keywords: zmodem
I have tried downloading and compiling zmodem sources from sites such as
rascal.ics.utexas.edu on my NeXtstation (ns 3.0), but to no avail -
various compile errors. Are there any next-specific versions out there?
Thanks,
David
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems of PS files from dvips
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc, comp.sys.next.software
Date: 28 Feb 1994 15:05:49 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kt18d$isk@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2kshof$kmd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
frank Thomas writes
[]>On a related advocacy topic, the standard postscript previewer that
ships
[]>with the operating system does a very poor job at displaying file that
[]>have been created with TeX. Tailor also have difficult with these types
of
[]>files. Does anyone know of a product that can handle type III (???)
[]>postscript files?
[]
[]The main problem is that dvips generates bitmap fonts for the characters
for
[]resolution of the printer. That is why they look bad on the screen (In
preview).
[]That is why I always use the `times' style. With this style only the math
chars
[]use the normal TeX fonts.
[]
[]I don't know why Tailor doesn't get these PS-files right.
I'll echo the solution offered above. If you want to preview the output
from TeX either use TeXview (itself one of the nicest TeX previewers
around) or else make your bitmaps at some useful screen dpi, like 72, by
typing in a shell
dvips -D 72 foo -o
to create the file foo.ps which contains 72 dpi bitmaps (of course, if you
zoom on the PS document the fonts will look lousy).
Another alternative is to get PS TeX fonts :) Work like a charm in all the
NeXT applications. If I get a chance I will download the Tailor demo and
see if the PS versions of the TeX fonts work with it. Could someone out
there give me an idea of what I'm looking for?? Good tests to run, etc.?
Follow-ups redirected to .software and .misc so they don't clutter up the
OS2 versus NS jeremiad.
Hope this is helpful --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: wjs@omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HTML
Date: 28 Feb 1994 06:30:07 -0800
Organization: The Omni Group
Message-ID: <2ksv5f$8v7@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <1994Feb19.033101.5485@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <CLLGpt.H3@eunet.ch>
Robert B. Love writes:
> Given that I don't have Mosiac is there a NeXT app that will read/display
> HTML files? Can I just ftp to a site and grab the file.html, bring it
> back and read it.
>
> I'm asking because somebody told me the info I wanted was available as a
> html and I really don't know much about it.
We're working on a NEXTSTEP WWW browser called OmniWeb, which intrinsicly
allows you to view HTML files, either locally or remotely. This part
already works great.
This doesn't solve your immediate problem, since it isn't immediately
available, but I thought I'd answer the larger question.
-William Shipley
President, Omni Development, Inc.
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 7e1->8n0 under PNI ??
Date: 28 Feb 1994 15:17:18 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kt1tu$75p@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
For reasons understood only by the policy Mandarins that run
data communications here, our dial-in modems will only accept
7 bit connections. The Dialer object controlled by the TTY
encapsulator has a PARITY parameter that can be set, which defaults
to 0. The PNI manual says that this means 8N0 line setting.
Does setting this parameter to 1 mean the line setting is
7E1 or is it 8E0 (if that is even possible)? Also, can this
parameter be changes once the connection is established? I need
to dial in at 7e1, then invoke SLIP from the Annex server, which
will change their end of the connection to 8N0, and then I
need to instruct my diall-in software to change to 8N0. Is
this possible under PNI1.7beta? Any help much appreciated.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTeX problems under NSI 3.2.
Date: 28 Feb 1994 16:23:39 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kt5qb$boq@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I have a LaTeX document that compiles fine under the complete TeX
package available from Northwest Computing Support Center, DR-10 (
ver. Version 3.14t. However, when I attempt to compile on NSI 3.2
I get an error message, though not fatal:
Document Style Option `titlepage' -- Released 16 June 1991.
)) (manscrpt.aux)
and the ouput has the title page lopped off. Do I need a new version
of LaTeX for my NeXT? Also, the fonts look really ugly (boxy) under
TeXView (probably the defaults). Do I need to download more
fonts for the previewer to work properly? I though MetFont took
care of that. Any help (comments) appreciated.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: traff@athletics.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emulation Packages?
Date: 28 Feb 1994 16:52:09 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: tamu usa world
Message-ID: <2kt7fp$g2s@news.tamu.edu>
Keywords: NeXT Mac PC Win
I am running a Black NS3.0 box and was wondering what emulation packages
existed for this setup. I'm mainly intrested in running Mac apps, but was
also wondering about SoftPC, WABI, and X.
Any help is appreciated...
Thanks,
Traff.
root@neuromancer.tamu.edu
From: Charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep version of Mosaic???
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 17:14:36 BST
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <2kt9ma$m74@marble.Britain.EU.net>
References: <2kjusp$cie@mailer.fsu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: dekorte@ibm8.scri.fsu.edu
For Black or Intel?
To my knowledge as of Feb.25, no native WWW browser is avaliable for Intel/NS.
Seems a little crazy, considering NeXT's history re: the WorldWideWeb. Many
people are seeking one, including myself. Have you tried posting to
comp.sys.next.programmer? <hint hint!>
The original WWW browser was written by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN on a black NeXT
in 1990. The original WWW browser is avaliable on CERN's FTP box.
By Mosaic I assume you mean a GUI WWW browser, not one from the NCSA Mosaic
team specifically. In a sense I guess we're suffering from the hardware
changeover. Tim is in the process of porting his NeXT WWW browser to Intel and
the FAT binaries, but it's a bit of a weekend job, I'm afraid. I know they've
got NS on some Intel NS machines at CERN, though...
A commercial WWW browser for NeXT? An idea, I suppose. The problem is that
every other WWW browser - and there are quite a few - are all freeware. Why
should NeXT developers charge for a product that everyone else can run for free
on other platforms? You'll need to find someone in a CS department at a
univrsity willing to take the project on as a thesis...
Any takers?
C.
In article <2kjusp$cie@mailer.fsu.edu>, <dekorte@ibm8.scri.fsu.edu> writes:
>
> Does anyone know of a PD or commercial Mosaic app for
> NeXTstep (a native NS app - not under CubX, etc)?
>
> Any info on one in the works?
>
> Steve
> PS. please respond by email
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: Re: DOOM question (warning, spoilers)
Message-ID: <CLy29u.Cxy@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
References: <SMITHW.94Feb26220911@sofya.hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 17:08:17 GMT
> "I can't seem to find much of the secret stuff in the
> 'toxin refinery'. Any one have some hints on what to do?"
I decided to post this because I thought a number of people
might be interested. There is a DOOM FAQ which can be found in
the newsgroup alt.games.doom; it can supposedly be found on a few
ftp sites including wuarchive.wustl.edu
(/pub/msdos_uploads/games/doomstuff), but I have not verified this.
Well, onto the meat. Here are a few cheats mentioned in the FAQ you
might want to try.
In the map mode (toggled to by the TAB key), you can get a complete
map (including secret areas) by typing
iddt
If you type it a second time, symbols appear for all important items
(like bad guys, medical kits, etc). If you type it a third time, it
returns you back to normal mode. I think this is the best cheat as it
gives you more information, but surviving is still VERY much a challenge.
Other secret "codes" you can type include:
iddqd Makes you essentially a god. Only for serious cheaters.
idkfa loads you up with ammo and those colored cards.
idspispopd you can walk through walls! I have found it the only way
to get all the treasures in the first stage-I think the
NEXTSTEP version might have a bug preventing you from
opening a certain passage (find it with iddt). Typing it
a second time returns you to normal, but make sure you
aren't in the middle of a wall when you do this!
idbehold displays a menu to let you choose a number of things
like turing on all the lights.
idchoppers gives you the chainsaw.
idmypos displays your coordinates. Must be part of ID's debugging.
Another cheat that the FAQ mentioned by I could not get to work under
NEXTSTEP was idclev which warps you to episode and level of your choice.
However, you can do this by starting doom from the command line and with
the following syntax:
Doom -devparm -warp <episode> <level>
For example:
Doom -devparm -warp 1 7
Will get you to the computer station level.
I think we only have episode 1, unless you have purchased the other levels.
This is nice if you want to check out the other levels just for fun.
There is a lot more information in the FAQ (it is over 50 pages), but a
lot of it pertains to the PC world.
Cheers,
Todd
From: Charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HTML
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 17:35:02 BST
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <2ktafi$m74@marble.Britain.EU.net>
References: <2ksv5f$8v7@yucca.omnigroup.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: wjs@omnigroup.com
I'm really interested to hear about this. When do you think the product will
be avaliable? By the nature of your email address, I assume this is a product
for which you'll charge. FAT binaries, right?
Will you build in any HTML WYSIWYG editing functions, a la TBL's original WWW
browser/editor for the NeXT? Full CGI spec - forms, etc.?
Let me know more!
Charles
charles_ashley@learned.co.uk
In article <2ksv5f$8v7@yucca.omnigroup.com>, <wjs@omnigroup.com> writes:
> We're working on a NEXTSTEP WWW browser called OmniWeb, which intrinsicly
> allows you to view HTML files, either locally or remotely. This part
> already works great.
>
> This doesn't solve your immediate problem, since it isn't immediately
> available, but I thought I'd answer the larger question.
>
> -William Shipley
> President, Omni Development, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Problems with getting FrameMaker PS to print elsewhere
Message-ID: <1994Feb28.165820.22276@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1994Feb25.185838.4056@cyantic.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:58:20 GMT
In article <1994Feb25.185838.4056@cyantic.com> pavneet@cyantic.com (Pavneet Arora) writes:
>
>We have some artwork that we have produced under FrameMaker using the
>Minion typeface. We saved to a PS file in the 'Print...' panel with the
>'Normal device-independent...' option set. When we sent this PS file to
>our print bureau, they can print the artwork, but all the Minion is
>converted to Courier. From their description, it would appear that
>character placement is being done using the Minion font metrics (the
>characters are scrunched up), but the typeface is Courier.
>
>Does anyone have any experience with this type of set-up, or hints as
>to possible areas to look into.
>
>advTHANKSance
>
>--
>Cheers,
> - pavneet
>.................................................................
>Pavneet Arora -- pavneet@cyantic.com ------------ CYANTIC Systems
Try this:
* Find out what kind of output device they use
* Create a dummy printer using that device's ppd using
PrintManager.app.
* Save your PS file using the 'chosen printer/include fonts'
option.
I believe you will have greater success using this method.
Good luck!
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean L. Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep version of Mosaic???
Date: 28 Feb 1994 18:18:27 GMT
Organization: Institut de Physiologie, Universite de Lausanne
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In article <2kt9ma$m74@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Charlesa@learned.co.uk writes:
> To my knowledge as of Feb.25, no native WWW browser is avaliable for
> Seems a little crazy, considering NeXT's history re: the WorldWideWeb. >
> people are seeking one, including myself. Have you tried posting to
>
It seems that people always miss the posts from someone (Marco
Schurer?) at the Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne who has
stated several times that some people there are working on a WWW client
for NEXTSTEP.
While it would be nice to hear regularly about their progress, I would
rather they were left to make progress.
Also, Bill Shipley has recently posted that his company is developing a
WWW client that is pretty close to Mosaic (sans annotations) which will
be available free.
That's the story. It's being worked on. Now we just have to wait. (or
help?)
-----
Sean L. Hill
Institut de Physiologie / Universite de Lausanne
Rue du Bugnon, 7
CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND
E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch NEXTMAIL: hill@iisnext1.unil.ch
From: Charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Getting .SND up to volume...
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 19:07:23 BST
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <2ktfl7$m74@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi -
I've got some ITR files which I've just renamed as .SND files. They play just
fine, except that the volume is a little low, even when maxed out in
preferences.app Does anybdy know of a way to run these files through
sndconvert, to get Them to play any louder? Just wondering...
C.
charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: scott@abyss.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Scott Denning)
Subject: Re: Freehand and PowerPoint on Next?
Message-ID: <1994Feb28.185502.73433@yuma>
Date: 28 Feb 94 18:55:02 GMT
References: <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd
Takken) writes:
> In article <2klp4b$qvi@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm
> Shift, Inc.) writes:
> > In article <2klkjc$41u@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
> bohus@math.lsa.umich.edu
> > (Geza Bohus) writes:
>
> > Aldus FreeHand exists in the NeXT world as Altsys' Virtuoso (altsys is
> > licensing to Aldus their technology [right Lorin] and the user
interface
> > is almost exactly it is as on the Mac or Windoze side of the court...
>
> The Virtuoso selling now does not read Freehand files. For that you
will
> have to wait for the next version, soon to be released (now in beta).
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
Virtuoso does indeed read both FH3 and FH4 files. To do FH4, you simply
change the .fh4 to .vrt at the end of the filename and double-click.
--
A. Scott Denning (303)491-8346
<scott@abyss.atmos.colostate.edu>
Dept. of Atmospheric Science
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ken@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Subject: Re: NeXT lint?
In-Reply-To: shepherd@suite.com's message of 24 Feb 1994 19:33:22 GMT
Message-ID: <KEN.94Feb26232345@ieyasu.phys.titech.ac.jp>
Sender: news@phys.titech.ac.jp (Usenet News System)
Cc: shepherd@suite.com
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology
References: <2kive2$6cj@bilbo.suite.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 14:23:45 GMT
In article <2kive2$6cj@bilbo.suite.com>
shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd) writes:
Anyone know where I can get a lint program for the NeXT? Black
hardware?
As far as I know, there is no lint for NS. At least, nothing
cheap or free. This being said, I believe the accepted wisdom
is that if you use ANSI C with gcc -Wall, it is about as good.
(Not quite the same thing...) Other interesting flags exist
for gcc, such as -traditional, -pedantic, etc.
Not clear if this is of any help, but just in case.
ps: btw, you seem to have posted this to a few groups individually.
could you rather cross post in future? Thanks.
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: COMPAQ 468/M66 Printing problems
Message-ID: <1994Feb28.210029.9620@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 21:00:29 GMT
Has anyone been able to print directly from such
a machine (parallel port) to a printer (In this case
a HP LaserJet III with a postcript cartridge) ?
It seems that there is a // port address conflict where
the EISA COMPAQ setup is not capable of changing its
memory address and where NSI ask for a different one ?
Further, changing the configuration on NSI // port
does not work in practice.
Has anyone been able to print from COMPAQ M
machines in any other ways ? (Forget the network
solution) ?
Thanks in advance.
Jean-Marc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: Re: zmodem, ymodem, ... do they exist on the next
Message-ID: <schwettCLyDHD.25E@netcom.com>
Keywords: zmodem
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2kt0v6$10h8@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 21:10:23 GMT
David,
Yep... there is a NeXT specific version that works great at
cs.orst.edu... It's in /pub/next/binaries/comm I think, and has a prett
long, cryptic name with next and rzsz in is somewhere..
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Frame to rtfd
Message-ID: <1994Feb28.184722.22619@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1994Feb21.171952.25984@altsys.com> <CLtnv2.D7@manki.toppoint.de>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 18:47:22 GMT
In article <CLtnv2.D7@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes:
>In article <1994Feb21.171952.25984@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin
>Rivers III) writes:
>> I want to convert some Frame documents to rtfd format so I can
>include
>> the Virtuoso documentation on line with the next NeXT release. Anyone
>> out there know of a solution? Many thanks in advance!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
>> NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
>> 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
>> Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
>
>Please possible answers for it open on the net.
>thanks.
>
>--
>***************************************************************
>* Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de *
>* Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 *
>* 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 *
>* Germany NeXT-mail welcome *
>***************************************************************
I got 3 kinds of answers:
Oooh Oohh Me too!
I've got a PERL script (interupted by me screaming and running
away)
And the winnah and still champion:
Here's a unix binary compiled for m68k that'll do that. it has
dox too! (yippee! I say). It doesn't do RTFD tho. Fudge. It's
from NeXT.
I also got some e-mail from a guy who says a friend is working on the
real thing (i.e., mif to rtfd)
That's all for now...
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with getting FrameMaker PS to print elsewhere
Date: 28 Feb 1994 21:16:32 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ktmvg$sfs@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <1994Feb28.165820.22276@altsys.com>
In article <1994Feb28.165820.22276@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin
Rivers III) writes:
> In article <1994Feb25.185838.4056@cyantic.com> pavneet@cyantic.com
(Pavneet Arora) writes:
> >
> >We have some artwork that we have produced under FrameMaker using the
> >Minion typeface. We saved to a PS file in the 'Print...' panel with
the
> >'Normal device-independent...' option set. When we sent this PS file
to
> >our print bureau, they can print the artwork, but all the Minion is
> >converted to Courier.
[munch]
>
> Try this:
> * Find out what kind of output device they use
> * Create a dummy printer using that device's ppd using
> PrintManager.app.
> * Save your PS file using the 'chosen printer/include fonts'
> option.
> I believe you will have greater success using this method.
>
> Good luck!
>
In general, this is a good idea. However, it does not work with Frame
because Frame does not properly fill the %%DocumentFonts: directive in the
PostScript output.
One work around is to save your file to a .ps file and bring it up in
Edit. Then do the following:
cmd-L (bring up a shell command panel)
cat <yourfilename>.ps | grep mymakefont | sort -u
This will open up a window with a crude list of all the fonts Frame is
using in the document. Here is an example:
******************
cat temp.ps | grep mymakefont | sort -u
0 (AGaramond-Regular) 12 1 mymakefontmetric
0 lineto rmat fill}bind def/mymakefont{/size exch def/name exch def/i exch
def
1 (Optima) 7 1 mymakefontmetric
2 (Optima) 20 1 mymakefontmetric
3 (Optima) 10 1 mymakefontmetric
4 (Optima) 9 1 mymakefontmetric
5 (Helvetica) 7 1 mymakefontmetric
]makefont put}def/mymakefontmetric{/BitmapWidths exch 0 eq def
mymakefont}def
***************************
Now you need to find the line at the top of the .ps file that reads:
%%DocumentFonts: (atend)
Since Frame does not actually decalre the document fonts at the end, I
usually just type them in here. In my example above, this would become:
%%DocumentFonts: Optima
%%+ AGaramond-Regular
%%+ Helvetica
Save the .ps file, and double click on it to bring it up in Preview.app.
Now you can follow Lorin's suggestions and things ought to work well for
you.
(Note that you have to use the same run around to print documents with
non-standard fonts to non-NeXT printers)
E-mail if this isn't clear.
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: EPS-Grab window?
Message-ID: <1994Feb28.192034.22734@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1994Feb25.095435.9054@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 19:20:34 GMT
In article <1994Feb25.095435.9054@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch writes:
>
>Does anyone know about a program which acts like Grab but returns an eps
>file, i.e. allows to eps-grab windows.
>
>Screen resolution tiffs don't look that nice in a report and after all the
>windows on the screen are all in postscript. So why not use this code?
>
>thanks - Moritz
>--
>Moritz Willers
>Institute for Theoretical Physics
>Bern, Switzerland
>willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
When we developed V1 of Virtuoso we had to hack a version (of
Virtuoso) that would generate high-resolution EPS screen shots. It was
a special version of Virty that barely ran but it WOULD make such a
beast. This is to say, it was really hard to make this kind of thing
happen, even with source and intimate knowledge.
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: byte order
Message-ID: <1994Feb28.122618.12139@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 28 Feb 94 12:26:17 MDT
Distribution: usa
If I have a big-endian 4 byte floating point value whose
bytes are ordered 1 2 3 4, does the proper Intel representation
have the order 2 1 4 3, or 4 3 2 1?
Thanks guys!
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Cole |
Nichols Research Corp. | hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com
2201 Buena Vista SE |
Suite 203 | "Leaders on the trailing
Albuquerque, NM 87106 | edge of technology"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: mosscrp@next1.geog.umanitoba.ca (David R. Mosscrop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CAP binaries for Black NeXT
Date: 28 Feb 1994 22:43:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Manitoba
Message-ID: <2kts1v$cd5@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>
Hello;
I have a 040 cube that I want to run as a server for some Macs.
Can anyone tell me where to find CAPs (NeXT binaries)?
Thanks
cheers
David R. Mosscrop
Programmer Analyst
Univ of Manitoba
Department of Geography
mosscrp@next1.geog.umanitoba.ca
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 28 Feb 1994 01:34:54 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2ks3ae$71j@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
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Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
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next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Freehand and PowerPoint on Next?
Message-ID: <1994Feb28.195102.22826@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <2klp4b$qvi@inxs.concert.net> <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 19:51:02 GMT
In article <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU writes:
>In article <2klp4b$qvi@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm
>Shift, Inc.) writes:
>> In article <2klkjc$41u@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
>bohus@math.lsa.umich.edu
>> (Geza Bohus) writes:
>
>> Aldus FreeHand exists in the NeXT world as Altsys' Virtuoso (altsys is
>> licensing to Aldus their technology [right Lorin] and the user interface
>> is almost exactly it is as on the Mac or Windoze side of the court...
>
>The Virtuoso selling now does not read Freehand files. For that you will
>have to wait for the next version, soon to be released (now in beta).
>
>-- Todd Takken
>takken@leland.stanford.edu
Yoiks!
Todd, dude, read the documentation! To open a FreeHand 3 document,
name it 'filename'.fh3. Saving a FH3 document adds the proper
extension. FreeHand 4 documents are Virtuoso documents and vice-versa.
In V1, name the file 'filename'.vrt and open it in Virtuoso. FreeHand
4 will open .vrt files from the Open... command on the Mac.
To reiterate:
Virtuoso OPENS FREEHAND DOCUMENTS RIGHT NOW, TODAY and has since the
beginning.
Thanks,
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Isn't anyone interested in energy saving?
Message-ID: <CLyt6F.Czn@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 02:49:27 GMT
For people with a VL bus there is a standard for powering down a monitor
which is compliant. That standard is called DPMS. Why on earth is noone
interested in supporting this from within NEXTSTEP? It would be a shame if
NEXTSTEP were banned from use because it refused to attract people who were
concerned. Wonder why we have a recycling bin? Perhaps it should be a picture
of the Great Lakes.
The energy issue is important, and out of 4 postings on this topic I have
received exactly one response. The issue of energy saving on computer
platforms is not a trivial one, and it would be more important to get a DPMS
driver out than many other things.
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Taylor uucp setup
Date: 27 Feb 1994 21:28:21 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2kqvp5$3mh@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CLt20z.43A@number_one.apana.org.au>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au writes:
>Unfortunately, I still am getting an annoying error which I do not know
>how to solve (not being overly conversant with C). Below is the message I
>keep getting upon trying to make it:
>cc -c -O -g -I./.. -I.. -DSBINDIR=\"/usr/local/lib/uucp\" -DOWNER=\"uucp\"
>fsusg.c
>fsusg.c: In function `get_fs_usage':
>fsusg.c:120: storage size of `fsd' isn't known
>*** Exit 1
>Stop.
>*** Exit 1
>Stop.
>If anyone has any suggestions, please do forward them to me as I am
>totally perplexed.
Look at the source!
Line 120 is only processed if STAT_STATFS2_FS_DATA is defined (line 119!).
Some lines further, you see
#if STAT_STATFS2_BSIZE /* 4.3BSD, SunOS 4, HP-UX, AIX. */
Remember NeXTSTEP is BSD4.3, not Ultrix. If you look at the beginning of
fsusg.c, you will find that the definition of STAT_STATFS2_BSIZE results
in reading different include files (vfs.h instead of param.h and mount.h).
So the one and only thing to do is defining
#define STAT_STATFS2_BSIZE 1
#define STAT_STATFS2_FSIZE 0
in conf.h, line 172.
Regards,
Markus.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ahokas@gun.com
Subject: Looking for websterd
Message-ID: <CLwqKM.sD@csfb1.fir.fbc.com>
Keywords: webster dictionary
Sender: news@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (Usenet News <Jim Freeman>)
Organization: First Boston Corporation
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:57:57 GMT
I am in search of the websterd that runs on a NeXT (black), which allows
non-NeXT systems to access the NeXT online dictionary.
If any one has the source or binary I would appreciate if you could forward
it to me (NeXT mail OK)
Thanks in advance
--
Jim Ahokas DOMAIN: ahokas@gun.com
CS First Boston (Japan) UUCP: ..uunet!csfb1!next8!ahokas
4-3-1 Toranomon, Minato-ku VOICE: (03)-5404-9562
Tokyo 105, Japan FAX: (03)-5404-9844
From: amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What do I need to do to use ".forward" files?
Date: 28 Feb 1994 21:47:54 -0700
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2kuhdq$sic@vesta.unm.edu>
Keywords: NS3.2, black, sendmail...
What do I need to change to set up a black NeXT running
NeXTstep 3.2 to use .forward files in each users home directory...
(what specifically has to be changed in netinfo...(etc) ?)
thanks for any help...
--aaron...
--
amb78@unm.edu
From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to install talkd in rc.local
Date: 1 Mar 1994 04:43:42 GMT
Organization: This Space for Rent.
Message-ID: <2kuh5u$4og@news.acns.nwu.edu>
I'm trying to figure out how to get my talkd installed in my rc.local. All
I've been able to do so far is hang my system. Here's what I put in there
(which is now commented out)
/etc/usr/talkd && >/dev/console
What am I doing wrong?
--
mallen@nwu.edu
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347
NeXTMail is just peachy.
From: dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Change window/menu title font? Address Book?
Date: 1 Mar 1994 05:46:18 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Message-ID: <2kukra$i7s@news.cs.tulane.edu>
Hello All,
Somehow my window and menu titles have been changed to some
funky font. Can someone give me the command to reset the fonts
to Times-Roman.
I'm running on Black 2.1 (egads). I need a NeXT app address
book. Does anyone have one that they use/like?
Thanks,
* AndREa *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: POP3 Server on NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.033214.1161@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 03:32:14 GMT
Does anyone have a POP3 server running under NeXTSTEP? If so, please tell
me about it.
Thanks
Wes
--
Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation)
8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chapman@cfht.hawaii.edu (Scott Chapman)
Subject: equations
Message-ID: <chapman.762483476@cfht.hawaii.edu>
Summary: need equation editor
Sender: news@news.Hawaii.Edu
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 00:57:56 GMT
I was wondering if there is an alternative to TeX for creating
documents with mathematical equations? SOmething along the lines of
WOrdperfect 5.1
THanks in advance,
PS I don't have regular access to news. COuld you send a reply to
schapman@unixg.ubc.ca
Scott Chapman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bud@slip4.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jeff Fields)
Subject: Re: Getting .SND up to volume...
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.062125.10984@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Sender: news@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (News)
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
References: <2ktfl7$m74@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 06:21:25 GMT
In article <2ktfl7$m74@marble.Britain.EU.net> Charlesa@learned.co.uk
writes:
>
> Hi -
>
> I've got some ITR files which I've just renamed as .SND files. They
play just
> fine, except that the volume is a little low, even when maxed out in
> preferences.app Does anybdy know of a way to run these files through
> sndconvert, to get Them to play any louder? Just wondering...
>
> C.
> charlesa@learned.co.uk
Try the 'Normalize' option in SoundEditor, which is on the archives, if
you don't have it yet...
Jeff Fields
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mrothste@worf.acs.calpoly.edu (Mont Rothstein)
Subject: Accounting Software
Message-ID: <1994Mar01.071707.112005@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: /usr/spool/news/organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 1994 07:17:07 GMT
The company I work for is getting ready to move to NeXTSTEP! We would
like to move everyone but the main drive is a MCCA we will write. The
one area of NeXTSTEP software that I know nothing about is accounting.
I'm interested in what accounting packages are out there, and thoughts
and comments on them. We are at ~25mil (doubled in the past year) and
expect to double in the next year. We are 150+ employees and rising.
Any info in this area (including solicitations) is welcome.
Thanks,
--
-Mont
NeXTmail OK :-)
mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
From: jgross@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Joe Gross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [REQUEST]: Procmail for NS
Date: 1 Mar 1994 09:38:03 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2kv2dr$bv0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Mar1.060402.14401@bMD.com>
Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes:
>Could someone email me their procmail source or tell me which ftp archive
>site has this stuff ready to compile for 3.2. Thanks.
To get v2.92pre10 of procmail:
ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
/pub/packages/procmail/procmail-2.92p10.tar.zip
To get SmartList v2.92pre10 (you'll need the procmail package as well):
ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
/pub/packages/procmail/SmartList-2.92p10.tar.zip
Or, send mail to procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de with
the following:
Subject: archive get procmail-*.?
or
Subject: archive get SmartList-*.?
--
Joe Gross | A computer terminal is not some clunky old television |
jgross@uiuc.edu | with a typewriter in front of it. It is an interface |
U of Illinois | where the mind and body can connect with the universe |
NeXTmail welcome | and move bits of it about. --D. Adams, Mostly Harmless |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: [REQUEST]: Procmail for NS
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.060402.14401@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 06:04:02 GMT
Could someone email me their procmail source or tell me which ftp archive
site has this stuff ready to compile for 3.2. Thanks.
--
Sincerely,
Neil Greene
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dynamically allocated IP address for SLIP?
Date: 1 Mar 1994 03:41:18 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kudgu$6lf@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Feb25183217@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) writes:
> Our slip server dynamically allocates IP address for dial-in slip
> connections. [etc]
>
> It can be done if you know a little TCL and are willing to parse
> the message which tells you what the address of your SLIP interface
> should be. However, the complications, breakage and pain which
> constantly changing IP addresses lead to (both for you and for
> your network admin when you become sophisticated and start to
> circumvent dynamic assignment) are just too much for me to advise
> anyone to do this. Instead go ask, implore, beg, cajole, entreat,
> beseech and threaten your network admin into Doing The Honorable
> Thing which is in this case of course going to assignment of host
> name and IP address based on a password scheme. For most SLIP
> servers this is just a matter of flipping a few switches.
Honorable or not, it is simply not an option in some environments.
The chances that we'd go to fixed IP addresses for SLIP users here
at RPI are damn near close to zero.
It's frustrating that Macintosh packages seem to have no trouble
with BOOTP processing, and yet Unix/NeXTSTEP does. I can setup
Versaterm's AdminSLIP in my sleep almost, and that does not
involve parsing anything to get the IP address. I don't do much
with PC's, but I'm pretty sure the guys in the PC world can handle
BOOTP processing the same way Versaterm does.
Is it really some kind of Unix system requirement that dial-up
networking requires you to devote a weekend to configuring the
damn thing? Maybe I don't want to learn TCL (even though I'm
sure it would make me a better person, and turn me into a real
macho he-man, and all the women on the Sports Illustrated
Swimsuit issue would call me up and ask for a date) just to make
a simple connection work. What is this fascination with making
things such a pain in the ass?
Maybe Macs are doing BOOTP "wrong". So, while Macho Unix He-men,
keepers of the flame of networking truth, have to read a few
hundred pages to make their SLIP connection work, Mac users are
up and running in no time. Isn't it grand that I want to use a
unix machine at home, with it's superior networking facilities.
So while lowly Mac and PC users are busily running compressed
SLIP (or maybe PPP) on their pitiful operating systems, I'm
supposed to go on my hands and knees to the local networking
gods and say "Please sir, I have a superior machine, thus I
can't get the damn fool thing to work unless you go thru a
whole boatload of extra effort for me and shmucks like me".
Yeah, right. Imagine my excitement. Imagine his laughter.
It ain't going to happen. I know, I've already asked.
I understand the advantages of having a fixed IP address. In
my case, however, I don't need those advantages. I just want
to be able to FTP *to* other places from home, and telnet *to*
other places. That's about all I do with my Mac at home, after
all, and I'm happy with that.
You might say I find this all very irritating.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk (Paul Meier)
Subject: Re: Accounting Software
Message-ID: <CLzCzB.BpE@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet
References: <1994Mar01.071707.112005@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 09:57:11 GMT
In article <1994Mar01.071707.112005@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
mrothste@worf.acs.calpoly.edu (Mont Rothstein) writes:
>
> The company I work for is getting ready to move to NeXTSTEP! We would
> like to move everyone but the main drive is a MCCA we will write. The
> one area of NeXTSTEP software that I know nothing about is accounting.
> I'm interested in what accounting packages are out there, and thoughts
> and comments on them. We are at ~25mil (doubled in the past year) and
> expect to double in the next year. We are 150+ employees and rising.
> Any info in this area (including solicitations) is welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> -Mont
>
> NeXTmail OK :-)
> mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
I have been looking for industrial strength accounting software for Next,
and believe there are as yet no standard packages. I have decided to do
our own aimed very specificly at our business. Using a standard SQL Server
and various DBKit tools, I believe this is no more than a 4-6 man month
job, with a further 3-4 elapsed months in data take on and organisational
shakedown.
There are a couple of accounting packages for Next, but I believe they are
not sufficient for the size of company you describe. I hope there is
someone out there who can prove me wrong.
Paul Meier
paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk
From: bihr@next.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Tom Bihr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FAT AppSoft Draw?
Date: 1 Mar 1994 10:57:40 GMT
Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kv734$mpv@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
References: <CLvzAv.BsE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <CLvzAv.BsE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon
Haveman) writes:
> Was there ever a fat version of AppSoft Draw made available?
>
> Does anybody know whether or not it is still possible to
> obtain same?
>
> I have a licensed version of the black software, but believe
> that I will be in the x86 world soon and would like to continue
> using Draw.
>
> Thanks much.
You will find the source code in /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Draw on your
black next.
Tom
---
Tom Bihr Humboldt-Universitaet zu Berlin Fachbereich 16 - Informatik
Unter den Linden 6 - 10099 Berlin
Telefon: +49 30 20181306
E-Mail (NeXT-Mail willkommen): bihr@informatik.hu-berlin.de ___ _
| | )
Let the good times Roll... | |_)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: Re: Isn't anyone interested in energy saving?
Message-ID: <schwettCLzIsK.MvF@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <CLyt6F.Czn@utstat.toronto.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:02:44 GMT
>the energy issue is important...
I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one; it is ridiculous that the NeXT
video drivers do not support DPMS features - they are easy and quick to
impleimplement, and the energy savings are substantial.
What is worse, perhaps, is that my green PC's energy saving mode, which
pspins down the hard disk and cycles the CPU and RAM down to 8mhz seems to
give NeXTStep a kernel panic every once in a while, so I had to disable the
feature.
Perhaps the Recycler should be a landfill, or maybe an incinerator!
Mark SchwetmMark Schwettmann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Re: FAT AppSoft Draw?
Message-ID: <CLzoJJ.952@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
References: <2kv734$mpv@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:06:55 GMT
In article <2kv734$mpv@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
bihr@next.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Tom Bihr) writes:
> In article <CLvzAv.BsE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon
> Haveman) writes:
> > Was there ever a fat version of AppSoft Draw made available?
> >
> > Does anybody know whether or not it is still possible to
> > obtain same?
> >
> > I have a licensed version of the black software, but believe
> > that I will be in the x86 world soon and would like to continue
> > using Draw.
> >
> > Thanks much.
>
> You will find the source code in /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Draw on your
> black next.
>
> Tom
Appsoft Draw is a commercial product (or was), very distinct from
the Draw that comes with the standard distribution set.
Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Re: Disk Labels
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.050913.16110@stone.com>
Keywords: DataPhile
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
References: <2kid2e$p9c@gateway.wiltel.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 05:09:13 GMT
In article <2kid2e$p9c@gateway.wiltel.com> terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry
Marrs) writes:
>Anyone know of a program that will print disk labels on a laser printer?
>Anyone got a template for any word processor or drawing program to print
>disk labels?? Thanks in advance!
DataPhile does this handily - including the ability to add unique serial
numbers to each label, and include custom art work to save as a template.
(the demo allows you to try 25 records).
1] Create a database with a license number field.
2] Choose Reports-> New Labels
3] Click on the Open... button on the right side of the Labels window
4] Choose 3by3.DiskLabels.5196.dpLabels from the Labels directory
(it's in the DataPhileAux.pkg)
5] Click on the Magnify glass Icon to get the background window - anything
placed in here will get replicated for each label.
6] Drag and drop your favorite logo & text or use Tools->Palette
7] Click OK - fiddle till your happy
8] Click on the "Make Default" button if you want to avoid the previous
steps each time, and it will come up ready to use automatically.
Andrew
PS: you have DataPhile at your site
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From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: Re: EPS-Grab window?
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.134049.341@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
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References: <1994Feb28.192034.22734@altsys.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:40:49 GMT
Lorin Rivers III writes
> In article <1994Feb25.095435.9054@aragorn.unibe.ch>
willers@butp.unibe.ch writes:
> >
> >Does anyone know about a program which acts like Grab but returns an
eps
> >file, i.e. allows to eps-grab windows.
> >
> >Screen resolution tiffs don't look that nice in a report and after all
the
> >windows on the screen are all in postscript. So why not use this code?
> >
> >thanks - Moritz
> >--
> >Moritz Willers
> >Institute for Theoretical Physics
> >Bern, Switzerland
> >willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
>
>
> When we developed V1 of Virtuoso we had to hack a version (of
> Virtuoso) that would generate high-resolution EPS screen shots. It was
> a special version of Virty that barely ran but it WOULD make such a
> beast. This is to say, it was really hard to make this kind of thing
> happen, even with source and intimate knowledge.
>
>
>
> --
> Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
> NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
> 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
> Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Hello
I have done that in my app in a way to do PS window shots for the
documentation.
I was shunting the standard second button behavior in the APP and replaced
it by a copyPSCodeInPasteboard, using the mouse event structure to
retrieve the concerned window.
So a second button click on a window (belonging to my app ) was copying
the PS code of this window in the pasteboard. it is cool to make a doc and
it work perfectly ..unfortunatly, if any part of your window use
compositing ( a lot do ).. you ll get some trouble when printing. it is
not anymore wysiwyg.
I dont know how you could do that for any app....
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
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From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: Re: EPS-Grab window?
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.134344.418@ares.fdn.org>
Keywords: EPS
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
References: <1994Feb28.192034.22734@altsys.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:43:44 GMT
Lorin Rivers III writes
> In article <1994Feb25.095435.9054@aragorn.unibe.ch>
willers@butp.unibe.ch writes:
> >
> >Does anyone know about a program which acts like Grab but returns
an eps
> >file, i.e. allows to eps-grab windows.
> >
> >Screen resolution tiffs don't look that nice in a report and after
all the
> >windows on the screen are all in postscript. So why not use this
code?
> >
> >thanks - Moritz
> >--
> >Moritz Willers
> >Institute for Theoretical Physics
> >Bern, Switzerland
> >willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
>
>
> When we developed V1 of Virtuoso we had to hack a version (of
> Virtuoso) that would generate high-resolution EPS screen shots. It
was
> a special version of Virty that barely ran but it WOULD make such a
> beast. This is to say, it was really hard to make this kind of
thing
> happen, even with source and intimate knowledge.
>
>
>
> --
> Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
> NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
> 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
> Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Hello
I have done that in my app in a way to do PS window shots for the
documentation.
I was shunting the standard second button behavior in the APP and
replaced
it by a copyPSCodeInPasteboard, using the mouse event structure to
retrieve the concerned window.
So a second button click on a window (belonging to my app ) was
copying
the PS code of this window in the pasteboard. it is cool to make a
doc and
it work perfectly ..unfortunatly, if any part of your window use
compositing ( a lot do ).. you ll get some trouble when printing. it
is
not anymore wysiwyg.
I dont know how you could do that for any app....
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
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From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: EPS-GRAB Windows
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.134616.483@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:46:16 GMT
In article <1994Feb25.095435.9054@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch
writes:
>
>Does anyone know about a program which acts like Grab but returns an eps
>file, i.e. allows to eps-grab windows.
>
>Screen resolution tiffs don't look that nice in a report and after all
the
>windows on the screen are all in postscript. So why not use this code?
>
>thanks - Moritz
>--
>Moritz Willers
>Institute for Theoretical Physics
>Bern, Switzerland
>willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
Hello
I have done that in my app in a way to do PS window shots for the
documentation.
I was shunting the standard second button behavior in the APP and replaced
it by a copyPSCodeInPasteboard, using the mouse event structure to
retrieve the concerned window.
So a second button click on a window (belonging to my app ) was copying
the PS code of this window in the pasteboard. it is cool to make a doc and
it work perfectly ..unfortunatly, if any part of your window use
compositing ( a lot do ).. you ll get some trouble when printing. it is
not anymore wysiwyg.
I dont know how you could do that for any app....
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
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From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: EPS-Windows Grabs
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.134817.545@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:48:17 GMT
In article <1994Feb25.095435.9054@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch
writes:
>
>Does anyone know about a program which acts like Grab but returns an eps
>file, i.e. allows to eps-grab windows.
>
>Screen resolution tiffs don't look that nice in a report and after all
the
>windows on the screen are all in postscript. So why not use this code?
>
>thanks - Moritz
>--
>Moritz Willers
>Institute for Theoretical Physics
>Bern, Switzerland
>willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
Hello
I have done that in my app in a way to do PS window shots for the
documentation.
I was shunting the standard second button behavior in the APP and replaced
it by a copyPSCodeInPasteboard, using the mouse event structure to
retrieve the concerned window.
So a second button click on a window (belonging to my app ) was copying
the PS code of this window in the pasteboard. it is cool to make a doc and
it work perfectly ..unfortunatly, if any part of your window use
compositing ( a lot do ).. you ll get some trouble when printing. it is
not anymore wysiwyg.
I dont know how you could do that for any app....
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
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From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye)
Subject: Some (certainly stupid) questions on Mosaic configuration
Message-ID: <ARROUYE.94Mar1122327@petole.imag.fr>
Sender: news@imag.fr
Organization: LGI-IMAG, Grenoble, France
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 11:23:26 GMT
Hello,
I have just got Mosaic in order to run it under CubX'Windows, but I
would like some help on its configuration, i.e. what previewers to
use. I do not know how to play sound from the command line, so there
is no sound, nor do I know if I should compile xdvi/ghostview in order
to preview dvi and ps files (CubX'Window is not running in NEXTSTEP
but in another screen. If it is running in NS, can I use TeXView and
Preview?).
If someone has a fully working configuration sample, I would like
to know what it is.
Another question: someone managed to make Mosaic work in 16 bit color,
but the app only runs on black hardware. Is it possible to get the
patches in order to apply them locally?
Thanks for any help,
Yves.
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From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Some (certainly stupid) questions on Mosaic configuration
Date: 1 Mar 1994 15:54:18 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
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References: <ARROUYE.94Mar1122327@petole.imag.fr>
In article <ARROUYE.94Mar1122327@petole.imag.fr> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves
Arrouye) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I have just got Mosaic in order to run it under CubX'Windows, but I
> would like some help on its configuration, i.e. what previewers to
> use. I do not know how to play sound from the command line, so there
> is no sound, nor do I know if I should compile xdvi/ghostview in order
> to preview dvi and ps files (CubX'Window is not running in NEXTSTEP
> but in another screen. If it is running in NS, can I use TeXView and
> Preview?).
> If someone has a fully working configuration sample, I would like
> to know what it is.
Here's how I do it. I run Co-Xist in "rootless" mode, so that the X
applications run in the Workspace. Then I create an executable script
in /usr/local/bin/ghostview that contains the two lines:
mv $1 $1.ps
open $1.ps
Now when "ghostview" is called, the standard NeXT preview app will
open the PostScript files. The same trick works for sounds files,
mpegs, gifs, etc. I imagine that this will work on CubX (if it has
a rootless mode).
> Another question: someone managed to make Mosaic work in 16 bit color,
> but the app only runs on black hardware. Is it possible to get the
> patches in order to apply them locally?
I posted the patches for 16 bit color on black hardware to cs.orst.edu
in the README file that accompanies Mosaic-2.2-NeXT. However, I
don't believe that this patch is necessary for Intel hardware.
--
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voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with Cyrrilic fonts
Date: 1 Mar 1994 16:17:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <2kvpq9$j2l@netnews.upenn.edu>
One of my professors needs to use Cyrrilic fonts. WordPerfect supplies
these, which are accessed through the Extended Characters panel. They
always appear as bold though, which doesn't suit.
Can anyone recommend a solution to this, such as a third party supplier of
fonts, or something? Fonts are not my bag.
-dave
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: equations
Date: 1 Mar 1994 17:31:19 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2kvu57$8t8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <chapman.762483476@cfht.hawaii.edu>
Scott Chapman writes
> I was wondering if there is an alternative to TeX for creating
> documents with mathematical equations? SOmething along the lines of
> WOrdperfect 5.1
EquationBuilder is a great app, and its equations can easily be
pasted into any NeXTSTEP app (they're eps files) or linked in, for
apps that support that (like WriteUp).
Ciao, Stefano
---
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Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Isn't anyone interested in energy saving?
Message-ID: <CLzqDn.51q@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <schwettCLzIsK.MvF@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:46:35 GMT
Mark Schwettmann writes
> I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one; it is ridiculous that the NeXT
> video drivers do not support DPMS features - they are easy and quick to
> impleimplement, and the energy savings are substantial.
I agree wholeheartedly, but complaining on the net is not
necessarily the best way to make this complaint known to NeXT.
send mail to product_suggestions@next.com and bug_next@next.com
to have your feedback _officially_ noted, filed, processed and ignored.
--
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From: Charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS 3.2/I and putenv()
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 94 17:32:19 BST
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <2kvube$pgg@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi -
I'm trying to run make on a makefile, and it keeps telling me the following:
ld: Undefined symbols:
_putenv
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
How can I get NS3.2 for Intel to accept the putenv() call? Thought are very
appreciated.
Charles
charlesa@learned.co.uk
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: equations
Date: 1 Mar 1994 17:01:51 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2kvsdv$m1j@news.iastate.edu>
References: <chapman.762483476@cfht.hawaii.edu>
Scott Chapman writes
[]I was wondering if there is an alternative to TeX for creating
[]documents with mathematical equations? SOmething along the lines of
[]WOrdperfect 5.1
[]
[]THanks in advance,
Get EquationBuilder. It's the best WYSIWYG equation Editor I've ever seen.
It has two way TeX compatibility, a wide range of option in terms of fonts,
etc. etc. And now that WriteUp is out and supports the baseline you could,
in theory, do everything people accomplish with TeX or Framemaker in a
couple of easy to use WYSIWYG NeXT tools. A demo of EqB is on the
archives.
SUGGESTION TO GREG ANDERSON et al. Why don't you get together with the
people who handle EqB now and see if you can offer an "introductory
package" that gives people both applications. Seems a nice combination
since you were kind enough to "support the baseline" :)
Hope this helps
Tom
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Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
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From: Charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Backspace bug?
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 94 17:35:08 BST
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <2kvue7$pgg@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I can't get the BackSpace modules to complie correctly with 3.2. The make
install keeps looking for a file which doesn't exist. Anybody else run into
this?
Charles
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with Cyrrilic fonts
Date: 1 Mar 1994 17:34:12 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2kvuak$8vn@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2kvpq9$j2l@netnews.upenn.edu>
anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu writes
> One of my professors needs to use Cyrrilic fonts. WordPerfect
> supplies these, which are accessed through the Extended Characters
> panel. They always appear as bold though, which doesn't suit.
>
> Can anyone recommend a solution to this, such as a third party
> supplier of fonts, or something? Fonts are not my bag.
I seem to remember a shareware cyrillic font on one of the NS
archives. If there is, just add it to your font directory (eg in
/LocalLibrary) go through the various hoops to make sure the system
knows its there (I can't believe NeXT's font installation is still
such a kludge) and you'll then be able to access it from any app, not
just WP.
Ciao, Stefano
---
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: Re: EPS-Windows Grabs
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.153426.504@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
References: <1994Mar1.134817.545@ares.fdn.org>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:34:26 GMT
In article <1994Feb25.095435.9054@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch
writes:
>
>Does anyone know about a program which acts like Grab but returns an eps
>file, i.e. allows to eps-grab windows.
>
>Screen resolution tiffs don't look that nice in a report and after all
the
>windows on the screen are all in postscript. So why not use this code?
>
>thanks - Moritz
>--
>Moritz Willers
>Institute for Theoretical Physics
>Bern, Switzerland
>willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
Hello
I have done that in my app in a way to do PS window shots for the
documentation.
I was shunting the standard second button behavior in the APP and replaced
it by a copyPSCodeInPasteboard, using the mouse event structure to
retrieve the concerned window.
So a second button click on a window (belonging to my app ) was copying
the PS code of this window in the pasteboard. it is cool to make a doc and
it work perfectly ..unfortunatly, if any part of your window use
compositing ( a lot do ).. you ll get some trouble when printing. it is
not anymore wysiwyg.
I dont know how you could do that for any app....
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
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From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HTML
Date: 1 Mar 94 17:52:03 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.762544323@lumumba>
References: <1994Feb19.033101.5485@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <CLLGpt.H3@eunet.ch>
Goetz.von-Escher@open.ch (Goetz von Escher) writes:
>In article <1994Feb19.033101.5485@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> raptor!rlove (Robert B.
>Love ) writes:
>> Given that I don't have Mosiac is there a NeXT app that will read/display
>> HTML files? Can I just ftp to a site and grab the file.html, bring it
>> back and read it.
>Well, some people in germany are writing a HTML editor. I don't know
>when it will be released.
That's us :-)
There are still some improvements I'd like to throw in before releasing
it. The beast will be in the public domain BTW.
Anybody out there volunteer to test a very buggy beta? You should be
HTML literate though.
Enjoy,
Chris
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From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: Re: EPS-Grab window?
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.160659.679@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
References: <2kop3e$bnp@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 16:06:59 GMT
In article <2kop3e$bnp@Times.Stanford.EDU> hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
writes:
:Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> writes
:
:|
:| [ worries about prologs in capturing window PS code ]
:|
:
:Should Window's printPScode: take care of such things? Or is there
:something I'm missing?
:
:---
:Scott Roy
:Department of Computer Science
:Stanford University
Hello
I have done that in my app in a way to do PS window shots for the
documentation.
I was shunting the standard second button behavior in the APP and replaced
it by a copyPSCodeInPasteboard, using the mouse event structure to
retrieve the concerned window.
So a second button click on a window (belonging to my app ) was copying
the PS code of this window in the pasteboard. it is cool to make a doc and
it work perfectly ..unfortunatly, if any part of your window use
compositing ( a lot do ).. you ll get some trouble when printing. it is
not anymore wysiwyg.
Just add the two following files to your app :
-----------------------------------
EpsGrabApp.h
/* Generated by Gery Divry */
#import <appkit/Application.h>
@interface Application(DocApp)
- rightMouseDown:(NXEvent *) thEvent;
@end
-------------------------------------
-------------------------------------
EpsGrabApp.m
/* Generated by Gery Divry */
#import "EpsGrabApp.h"
#import <appkit/Pasteboard.h>
#import <appkit/Application.h>
#import <appkit/View.h>
#import <appkit/Window.h>
#import <appkit/nextstd.h>
@implementation Application(DocApp)
- rightMouseDown:(NXEvent *) theEvent
{
id win=nil;
id pressPap= [Pasteboard new];
NXStream *stream;
char *data;
int length,maxLength;
// retrieve the window
win=[NXApp findWindow:event->window];
[pressPap declareTypes:&NXPostScriptPboard num:1 owner:self];
stream= NXOpenMemory(NULL,0,NX_WRITEONLY);
[win copyPSCodeInside:NULL to:stream];
NXGetMemoryBuffer(stream, &data,&length,&maxLength);
[pressPap writeType:NXPostScriptPboard data:data length:length];
NXCloseMemory(stream,NX_FREEBUFFER);
return self;
}
@end
-------------------------------------
I dont know how you could do that for any app....
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
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From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: equations
Date: 1 Mar 1994 19:35:10 GMT
Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l05de$s4p@Times.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2kvsdv$m1j@news.iastate.edu>
Tom Marchioro writes
|
| in theory, do everything people accomplish with TeX or Framemaker in a
| couple of easy to use WYSIWYG NeXT tools.
|
Almost, but not quite. I was very disappointed to scan the recent
announcement of WriteUp and see that it doesn't support cross references.
These seem to be somewhat essential for a technical paper, though I
suppose one could always bite the bullet and do them by hand.
---
Scott Roy
Department of Computer Science
Stanford University
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: How to get a remote X window from a Sun? (setenv DISPLAY)
Message-ID: <CLyuvp.xK@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1994Feb18.090349.11942@info.ucl.ac.be>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 03:26:13 GMT
In article <1994Feb18.090349.11942@info.ucl.ac.be> smeester@antares (Eric
Smeesters) writes:
#
#
#Hi,
#
#Is it possible to get an X window coming from a Sun Workstation on the
#NeXT screen? In other words, is it possible to have an X communication
#between a Sun and a NeXt? Between 2 Sun's, the command is setenv DISPLAY
#rigel:0.0
#
#I don't want to use CubeX or something like that, I just want to get my
#graphic window appear on my NeXT screen while working on another Sun
#workstation with rlogin.
You will have to run CubeX or something.
NeXTStep is not X. You need to run an X server on the NeXT to display X.
Kent
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From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: Isn't anyone interested in energy saving?
Message-ID: <CLzsxH.L9@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
References: <CLyt6F.Czn@utstat.toronto.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:41:40 GMT
It's already done... My monitor does an auto power down when it does not
receive new signals... so set backspace to black. When backspace kicks in the
monitor does not receive new signals and does an auto power down. When I get
back to my desk I just move my mouse and it all comes alive again.
---
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
(508)-481-3955 Fax
In article <CLyt6F.Czn@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip
McDunnough) writes:
> For people with a VL bus there is a standard for powering down a monitor
> which is compliant. That standard is called DPMS. Why on earth is noone
> interested in supporting this from within NEXTSTEP? It would be a shame if
> NEXTSTEP were banned from use because it refused to attract people who were
> concerned. Wonder why we have a recycling bin? Perhaps it should be a picture
> of the Great Lakes.
>
> The energy issue is important, and out of 4 postings on this topic I have
> received exactly one response. The issue of energy saving on computer
> platforms is not a trivial one, and it would be more important to get a DPMS
> driver out than many other things.
>
>
> --
> Philip McDunnough
> University of Toronto
> philip@utstat.toronto.edu
> [Where sheep may safely graze...]
--
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
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From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: equations
Message-ID: <CLztFI.M3@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
References: <chapman.762483476@cfht.hawaii.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:52:29 GMT
There sure is, check out EquationBuilder by Digital Tool Works (info@dtw.com
?). I think there is also a demo on the archives.
It is quite cool... It is the equivalent of Expressionist on the Mac, and then
some.
And not only that, it works seamlessly with GraphRight, just drag and drop the
equation onto a graph page.
Most software sales houses sell both (Alembic, Paget, etc...)
---
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
(508)-481-3955 Fax
In article <chapman.762483476@cfht.hawaii.edu> chapman@cfht.hawaii.edu (Scott
Chapman) writes:
> I was wondering if there is an alternative to TeX for creating
> documents with mathematical equations? SOmething along the lines of
> WOrdperfect 5.1
>
> THanks in advance,
>
> PS I don't have regular access to news. COuld you send a reply to
> schapman@unixg.ubc.ca
>
> Scott Chapman
>
--
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Giving Access to NXFax Modem
Date: 1 Mar 1994 13:42:54 GMT
Organization: Suite Software
Message-ID: <2kvgou$pfs@bilbo.suite.com>
References: <1994Feb25.193955.4480@cyantic.com>
In article <1994Feb25.193955.4480@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark
T. Dornfeld) writes:
> We have tried several times to set an NXFax Modem to Public access.
Each
> time PrintManager has crashed leaving the Fax System disabled.
>
> There is no error message, so we don't know why it crashed.
>
> Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416)
I have seen a simliar problem with the FAX setup on my FAX server. It
simply broke with no error messages or anything. I am unable to
delete or modify the FAX setup that exists, To get it going again I
just created yet another definition on the same mahcine poitning to
the same fax. This one works. I still can't get rid of or modify the
other one. Any ideas???
Scot
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From: hussain@ArtSci.WuStL.EDU (Hussain Chinoy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WWW, NeXT viewer (not using x)
Date: 1 Mar 1994 20:28:05 GMT
Organization: School of Arts & Sciences, Washington University in St. Louis
Message-ID: <2l08gl$ahp@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
I'm looking for a WWW app for NeXTstep (preferably black).
I don't have an X emulator and am not going to get one soon.
Any ideas?
--
________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: djiracek@thunder(Dan Jiracek)
Subject: Multiple Clocks???Date and time - preferences)
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.195635.2902@fnbc.com>
Sender: news@fnbc.com
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 19:56:35 GMT
Does anyone know of an app or a tricky way to have more than 1
Preferences.app running. This is for a trader who would like to have 1
clock for London, 1 for Tokyo etc.
This may be really easy for some crack programmers and may be of use to
many traders.
Thanks,
--
Daniel Jiracek (312) 732-1421
Systems Officer/Network Specialist Dan_Jiracek@fnbc.com
First Chicago Bank NeXT Mail Accepted
From: stoleson@crazyhorse.rchland.ibm.com (David Stoleson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Aquarium Backspace Module, DPMS, Time , Mouse
Date: 1 Mar 1994 22:55:24 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l0h4s$1uqe@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
References: <CLx7qA.9qt@utstat.toronto.edu>
|> (3) Why is my clock changing as I flip in and out of NS/Intel (into Windows)?
|>
NEXTSTEP adjusts the clock to Greenwich Mean Time, then calculates the offset
based on the time zone you pick in Preferences.
Thus, when you boot into Windows, you are off by (GMT - yourTimeZone) hours.
|>
|> --
|> Philip McDunnough
|> University of Toronto
|> philip@utstat.toronto.edu
|> [Where sheep may safely graze...]
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From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: Re: Isn't anyone interested in energy saving?
Message-ID: <schwettCM080I.5pH@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <schwettCLzIsK.MvF@netcom.com> <CLzqDn.51q@genoa.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:07:30 GMT
>I agree wholeheartedly, but complaining on the net is not
> necessarily the best way to make this complaint known to NeXT.
Yes Yes, I know; I already sent in an official bug report to be noted,
filed and ignored.
Has anybody else had troubles with Green PC features on white hardware?
Mark
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From: chuston@nugget.rmNUG.ORG (Chris Huston)
Subject: Database reporting/mail merges
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.190211.29294@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:02:11 GMT
Distribution:
need some database tools will:
- Mail Merge from database
- Mailing Labels
- Generate Reports with good formatting and page layout capability
Aggregates
Calculations
Grouping
Are there any objects/kits/IB Pallets avail for reporting? It would be nice to
be able to compile a finished report into your custom app - keep the user out
of the generation stage.
I remember the demo at 93 Expo with Pages and a palletized object that would
load format and text from a database and create a merge. Is this available
commercially?
We've got FrameMaker/WordPerfect and WriteNow - has anyone developed a merge
facility we may be able to build on for one of these apps? other apps?
Thanks!
-Chris Huston
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Re: Accounting Software
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.185423.2350@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
References: <CLzCzB.BpE@demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 18:54:23 GMT
In article <CLzCzB.BpE@demon.co.uk> paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk (Paul Meier)
writes:
> In article <1994Mar01.071707.112005@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
> mrothste@worf.acs.calpoly.edu (Mont Rothstein) writes:
> >
> > The company I work for is getting ready to move to NeXTSTEP! We would
> > like to move everyone but the main drive is a MCCA we will write. The
> > one area of NeXTSTEP software that I know nothing about is accounting.
> > I'm interested in what accounting packages are out there, and thoughts
> > and comments on them. We are at ~25mil (doubled in the past year) and
> > expect to double in the next year. We are 150+ employees and rising.
> > Any info in this area (including solicitations) is welcome.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > -Mont
> >
> > NeXTmail OK :-)
> > mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
>
> I have been looking for industrial strength accounting software for
Next,
> and believe there are as yet no standard packages. I have decided to do
> our own aimed very specificly at our business. Using a standard SQL
Server
> and various DBKit tools, I believe this is no more than a 4-6 man month
> job, with a further 3-4 elapsed months in data take on and
organisational
> shakedown.
>
> There are a couple of accounting packages for Next, but I believe they
are
> not sufficient for the size of company you describe. I hope there is
> someone out there who can prove me wrong.
I know this is against our wishes and I might get flamed for this. :-)
But, just like Simon G. mentions in one of his recent editorials in NWM,
there is something to be said for some of the Windoze software out there.
In particular Peacthtree Accounting for Windows and products like Quicken.
PAW is a full accounting system (AR, AP, Inventory, Job Control, Payroll,
nice report features, full audit control, Bank Reconciliation, the whole
field. Lots more not mentioned. FOR ONLY $99.00!!!!!!
At that price, there is no justification for spending any time in
development or heartaches with bugs unless you truly are looking for a
customized solution. Believe me, I can think of plenty of ways to have
the accounting tied into sales, tied into a call log system, etc., etc.
I am developing a custom DBKit application using Espresso! Developer that
uses an Oracle back end to a call log database, sales, customer support,
etc., etc. system. I would love to have this tied to our accounting
system, but its just not there yet.
For small companies like ourselves, I would recommend PAW. For larger
companies, well maybe you need something better. There are more robust
versions of PAW, but not under NEXTSTEP.
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS 3.2/I and putenv()
Date: 1 Mar 1994 21:26:39 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2l0buf$1jo@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2kvube$pgg@marble.britain.eu.net>
Charlesa@learned.co.uk wrote in comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
>
>Hi -
>
>I'm trying to run make on a makefile, and it keeps telling me the following:
>
>ld: Undefined symbols:
>_putenv
>*** Exit 1
>Stop.
>*** Exit 1
>Stop.
>
>
>How can I get NS3.2 for Intel to accept the putenv() call? Thought are very
>appreciated.
>
>Charles
>charlesa@learned.co.uk
What a shame we didn't get to see what he was compiling.
Well here we go again with another putenv flame ware.
Mr EPS please step forward, wait for it wait for it :-)
To the poster, if nobody sends you a putenv then get in touch.
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From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PNI1.7 beta: TTY encap can't read "encapList"??
Date: 2 Mar 1994 00:50:45 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l0nt5$qhs@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
PNI gets as far as setting the connection to slip mode, but then
blows up. The error message is: (I have included some of surrounding
log messages).
Mar 1 18:35:18 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: Connected: CONNECT 14400/REL-LAPM-COMP
Mar 1 18:35:18 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: TTY tty: Dialer succeded to 898-0834
Mar 1 18:35:19 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: source /etc/pni/support/login-annex.tcl
Mar 1 18:35:19 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: Begin annex login
Mar 1 18:35:24 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: Entering SLIP mode
Mar 1 18:35:24 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: TTY tty: Login to 898-0834 with annex failed can't read "encapList": no such variable
Mar 1 18:35:24 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: can't read "encapList": no such variable
Mar 1 18:35:24 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: TTY tty: Drop DTR on serial port
Mar 1 18:35:25 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: tty: link connect script fails
Mar 1 18:35:25 vigor pnid-pni0[440]: === TCL Error: Connect script failed to
It seems that the TTY encapsulator can not initialize because some
global variable "encapList" in /etc/pni/TTY.encap/TTY_objInit.tcl
is undefined. Does anyone know why this is happening? Can anyone tell
me how to fix it? Any clues much appreciated-- I'm getting pretty
close.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Accounting Software
Date: 1 Mar 1994 20:13:05 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2l07kh$875@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <CLzCzB.BpE@demon.co.uk>
One of the few accounting packages that I have seen is
QuantaFlow, it is available at sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
The file: /pub/next/submissions/qf-readme.rtf has more
info about it. This application appears to be much more
powerful than CheckSum or Fiscal Dimension.
-- Greg
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: How to install talkd in rc.local
In-Reply-To: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu's message of 1 Mar 1994 04:43:42 GMT
To: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar1084257@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2kuh5u$4og@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:42:57 GMT
In article <2kuh5u$4og@news.acns.nwu.edu> mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen) writes:
I'm trying to figure out how to get my talkd installed in my rc.local. All
I've been able to do so far is hang my system. Here's what I put in there
(which is now commented out)
/etc/usr/talkd && >/dev/console
What am I doing wrong?
You are trying to run talkd in /etc/rc.local. Talkd is one of the
daemon which is started on demand from /etc/inetd.conf. Read the
documentation for that -- probably you only need to change the line
which refers to the default talkd to refer to your talkd. I'd also
say that /etc/usr is an extremely strange path to use for local
daemons (or anything else). Locally installed UN*X programs, their
man pages and operating files all belong in the /usr/local hierarchy
if you don't want to have problems with deinstallation or OS upgrades.
In particular I'd put a new talkd in /usr/local/etc.
Carl Edman
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From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Database reporting/mail merges
Date: 2 Mar 1994 06:39:03 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <2l1ca7$dsb@news.iastate.edu>
References: <1994Mar1.190211.29294@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Chris Huston writes
[]Distribution:
[]
[] need some database tools will:
[]
[]- Mail Merge from database
[]- Mailing Labels
[]- Generate Reports with good formatting and page layout capability
[] Aggregates
[] Calculations
[] Grouping
[]
[]Are there any objects/kits/IB Pallets avail for reporting? It would be
nice to
[]be able to compile a finished report into your custom app - keep the user
out
[]of the generation stage.
[]
[]I remember the demo at 93 Expo with Pages and a palletized object that
would
[]load format and text from a database and create a merge. Is this
available
[]commercially?
[]
[]We've got FrameMaker/WordPerfect and WriteNow - has anyone developed a
merge
[]facility we may be able to build on for one of these apps? other apps?
[]
I think you might want to check out StayInTouch by Alberto Ricart and
Smartsoft. It has MailMerge for WriteNow and WordPerfect (I think for
write-up as well). I actually owe him a file which will allow mailmerge to
LaTeX (sorry Alberto, been very busy the last couple of months...... :(
Stay In Touch is a pretty nifty address program which you can use for your
DataBase of names/addresses/phone numbers, and the mail merge should let
you include fairly complicated documents for sending out.
There should be a demo on the archives.
Hope this helps --- Tom
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: equations
Message-ID: <CM11C5.GII@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <chapman.762483476@cfht.hawaii.edu> <2kvsdv$m1j@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 07:40:52 GMT
In article <2kvsdv$m1j@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov writes:
[ ]
>Get EquationBuilder. It's the best WYSIWYG equation Editor I've ever seen.
>It has two way TeX compatibility, a wide range of option in terms of fonts,
>etc. etc. And now that WriteUp is out and supports the baseline you could,
>in theory, do everything people accomplish with TeX or Framemaker in a
>couple of easy to use WYSIWYG NeXT tools. A demo of EqB is on the
>archives.
I agree completely. EqB is a great application. I've never come across another
equation editor which comes close. In my opinion, FrameMaker's equation editor
is very weak, and it's really not a suitable program for mathematical
documents (neither is Word, WordPerfect, etc...). TeX/LaTeX combined with
EqB makes for quite a nice mathematical document processor, and you can use
EqB to learn TeX.
>
>SUGGESTION TO GREG ANDERSON et al. Why don't you get together with the
>people who handle EqB now and see if you can offer an "introductory
>package" that gives people both applications. Seems a nice combination
>since you were kind enough to "support the baseline" :)
That's a great idea as Equation Builder and WriteUp are apparently ( still
awaiting WriteUp, so I'll reserve judgement on the baseline issue!) a nice
combination for short mathematical documents.
Is the baseline support in WriteUp correct? If so then all I can say is
finally! Note that PasteUp (before AFS) claimed baseline support, but that
was really stretching the truth.
>Hope this helps
>Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
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From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: Oh, Lord, more SLIP troubles (minor ones...)
Message-ID: <schwettCM18n8.GFv@netcom.com>
Summary: ouch, bang, crash, IP numbers?
Keywords: slip trouble ack!
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 10:18:43 GMT
Hey, hurray! After hours and hours of hacking at tcl files I didn't really
understand, I got PNI Transys whatever slip 1.7 running...
But the only problem is it doesn't recognize names, like "netcom.com" or
"soda.berkeley.edu," only numbers like 128.64.201.1 and so on. How do I set
up the nameserver dealie? The SLIP packages I've used for WIndoze or OS/2
usually have an entry for nameservers somewhere... where do I provide this
information for Transys?
ANy help much appreciated!
Mark
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: ksh (not zsh!) for NS ?
Message-ID: <1994Mar2.131908.15610@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 13:19:08 GMT
Has anybody a ksh up and running on NEXTSTEP ? The original ksh is not
free available, right ? So I tried to compile pdksh (4.9), but I seemed
to be such a mess (funny recursive header files ;-) that I resigned.
Or is it possible to get it up ?
Gregor
PS: I don't have my free will! A user urges me.
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Multiple Clocks???Date and time - preferences)
Message-ID: <1994Mar2.122310.21692@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
References: <1994Mar1.195635.2902@fnbc.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:23:10 GMT
In article <1994Mar1.195635.2902@fnbc.com> djiracek@thunder(Dan Jiracek)
writes:
> Does anyone know of an app or a tricky way to have more than 1
> Preferences.app running. This is for a trader who would like to have 1
> clock for London, 1 for Tokyo etc.
>
> This may be really easy for some crack programmers and may be of use to
> many traders.
>
> Thanks,
>
It is, you need WorldClock from ITS (try mailing info@its.com), who are also in
Chicago. It does exactly what you are asking for.
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: IPT uShare still around?
Message-ID: <1994Mar2.133814.22136@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 13:38:14 GMT
I'm trying to get hold of the IPT guys, they make uShare, the product that
connects Macs to NeXTs in a reasonable way. They don't respond to email, does
anyone out there have their real contact details?
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: matt@pass.wayne.edu (Matt Lessins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Electronic elements
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:13:14
Organization: Wayne State University
Message-ID: <matt.18.000938C9@pass.wayne.edu>
I could have sworn that I saw a piece of software, like a palette for Diagram!
or a breadboard simulator, that could generate electronic component symbols,
like resistors and capacitors. Is there such a beast? If so, where can I get
it? Thanks....
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Plotting software for NSI 3.2?
Date: 2 Mar 1994 14:25:06 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l27k2$goo@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Can anyone recommend plotting software for NSI 3.2? Has gnuplot been
ported to NSI? Is there something comparable. Any suggestions
appreciated.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Oh, Lord, more SLIP troubles (minor ones...)
Date: 2 Mar 1994 14:38:12 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l28ck$krq@news.iastate.edu>
References: <schwettCM18n8.GFv@netcom.com>
Mark Schwettmann writes
[]
[]Hey, hurray! After hours and hours of hacking at tcl files I didn't
really
[]understand, I got PNI Transys whatever slip 1.7 running...
[]
[]But the only problem is it doesn't recognize names, like "netcom.com" or
[]"soda.berkeley.edu," only numbers like 128.64.201.1 and so on. How do I
set
[]up the nameserver dealie? The SLIP packages I've used for WIndoze or
OS/2
[]usually have an entry for nameservers somewhere... where do I provide
this
[]information for Transys?
[]
[]ANy help much appreciated!
You need to set up an /etc/resolv.conf file. Ask the relevant powers that
be on the server end what the local nameservers are, get their names and IP
numbers, and create a file called /etc/resolv.conf that looks like the
following
feynman> more /etc/resolv.conf
domain ameslab.gov
nameserver 129.186.1.200
nameserver 147.155.1.1
nameserver 192.31.103.3
It's best to have at least two nameservers in case one of them is down at a
given moment. The "domain" entry is the default domain to try for machines
without complete names, for example, we have another machine
daf.ameslab.gov (an Intel NeXTstep box :) and I can telnet to it just by
typing
telnet daf
even though I do not have it listed in my hosts because the default try is
to append the domain name.
Hope this helps --- Tom
--
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Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Electronic elements
Date: 2 Mar 1994 14:43:59 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l28nf$kv5@news.iastate.edu>
References: <matt.18.000938C9@pass.wayne.edu>
Matt Lessins writes
[]I could have sworn that I saw a piece of software, like a palette for
Diagram!
[]or a breadboard simulator, that could generate electronic component
symbols,
[]like resistors and capacitors. Is there such a beast? If so, where can I
get
[]it? Thanks....
It's in an out of the way place:
ftp sonata.cc.purdue.edu
ftp> pwd
257 "/pub/next/graphics/data/Diagram" is current directory.
ftp> ls -FC
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
BunchOPalettes.tar.Z Index
Feynman.tar.Z UW_Palettes.tar.Z
I forget if the palette you want is in BunchOPalettes.tar.Z or in
UW_Palettes.tar.Z but both packages are pretty good in my memory.
Hope this Helps --- Tom
--
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Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: cervai@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it (FUZZYMAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: information...
Date: 2 Mar 1994 18:18:32 +0100
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Message-ID: <2l2hp8$rcs@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Summary: searching for Nextstep version of CLIPS
Keywords: CLIPS for Nextstep
Hi, I'm starting my thesis work and I would like to know if exist a
specific Nextstep version of Togai Infralogic CLIPS
Thanks in advance
Giorgio Cervati
e-mail:cervai@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it
Lab tel ++39 2 55006 347
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From: schweber!mono (Matthias Weber)
Subject: Re: Freehand and PowerPoint on Next?
Message-ID: <1994Mar2.142458.674@schweber.rhein-main.de>
Sender: mono@schweber.rhein-main.de
Organization: Schweber und ...
References: <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:24:58 GMT
In article <2kpeps$99r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU
(Todd Takken) writes:
> In article <2klp4b$qvi@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm
> Shift, Inc.) writes:
> > In article <2klkjc$41u@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
> bohus@math.lsa.umich.edu
> > (Geza Bohus) writes:
>
> > Aldus FreeHand exists in the NeXT world as Altsys' Virtuoso (altsys
is
> > licensing to Aldus their technology [right Lorin] and the user
interface
> > is almost exactly it is as on the Mac or Windoze side of the court...
>
> The Virtuoso selling now does not read Freehand files. For that you
will
> have to wait for the next version, soon to be released (now in beta).
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
That's not right!
That always worked for me with FH3 files. Just be sure the files are
named *.fh3.
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From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Systems for Sale, Turbos, Colours, ND, 21" Monitors etc
Message-ID: <CM1tKM.E5H@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:50:46 GMT
Hi,
We recently posted a wide range of equipment for sale. We have been inundated
with replys and will be mailing answers back over the weekend.
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: +44 (0)702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: +44 (0)702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: equations
Date: 2 Mar 1994 18:13:16 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l2kvs$oei@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <CM11C5.GII@utstat.toronto.edu>
In article <CM11C5.GII@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu
(Philip McDunnough) writes:
[munch]
>
> That's a great idea as Equation Builder and WriteUp are apparently (
still
> awaiting WriteUp, so I'll reserve judgement on the baseline issue!) a
nice
> combination for short mathematical documents.
>
> Is the baseline support in WriteUp correct? If so then all I can say is
> finally!
Yes, EqB and WriteUp work very well together. In fact, if you link an
equation into WriteUp and modify it in EqB, the baseline adjusts
automatically. Very nice.
One caveat. While working with the AFS folks to sort out baseline
support, we discovered a bug in EqB that causes equations to be placed 1
point too high when pasting into WriteUp. This was easily fixed but
requires a patch from us (Digital Tool Works). Current owners of EqB who
want to use it with WriteUp should get in touch with us at info@dtw.com.
At some point, we'll put the fixed version on the archives as well.
--
Ray Ghanbari
Digital Tool Works
ray@dtw.com
also: ray@mayo.edu
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From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: lt sullivan and frame
Message-ID: <1994Mar1.193249.844@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <1994Feb22.225331.104240@yuma>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:32:49 GMT
In article <1994Feb22.225331.104240@yuma>
randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) writes:
> in the march nextworld, lt. sullivan says that frame is coming back
> into the fold. let's hope that it's true. frame, i will buy half a dozen
> licenses at a price that will make you smile.
Considering that the good Lieutenant never correctly spells the name of my
company or anyone who works here, I have less than profound confidence in
his research and predictive powers. Of course, that's exactly what makes
him such as good drinking buddy. I raise my mug to you, Sully...
--
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Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are
Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Postscript Manipulation or Printing Multiple pages per page
Message-ID: <1994Mar2.214701.2029@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 21:47:01 GMT
I could easily be doing something wrng, but I can not get saved
WordPerfect output to print 2 pages per page, like a booklet. I can make
things work using enscriipt on a plain text file. But with either quarto
or psnup, the output is blank.
I also need to re-order page printing. If anyone knows of any app or
utility that will help, let me know.
Thanks
Wes
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From: dimitri@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Subject: Re: IPT uShare still around?
Message-ID: <CM2Au3.Hus@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
Organization: Delft University of Technology
References: <1994Mar2.133814.22136@xexos.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 00:03:39 GMT
In article <1994Mar2.133814.22136@xexos.com>,
Mark Chamberlain <mark@xexos.com> wrote:
>I'm trying to get hold of the IPT guys, they make uShare, the product that
>connects Macs to NeXTs in a reasonable way. They don't respond to email, does
>anyone out there have their real contact details?
Although I hesitated to post this, I must strongly advise against this
product. After 6 months after paying money we finally got an
installable Intel version only to find that it's incredibly slow, doesn't
support the server side, has no documentation and crashes while
copying a large file over the AppleTalk link. So much for IPT.
Dimitri
>
>--
>Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
>Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
>London mark@xexos.com
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From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with talk solved.
Date: 2 Mar 1994 20:36:20 GMT
Organization: This Space for Rent.
Message-ID: <2l2tc4$305@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Thanks to everyone who sent mail and also posted on here.
The problem was with my inetd.conf file (which I did not know controled
these functions.) Evrything seems to work peachy now.
Thanks again.
--
mallen@nwu.edu
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347
From: wjs@omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW, NeXT viewer (not using x) [YES! YES! YES!]
Date: 2 Mar 1994 15:05:59 -0800
Organization: The Omni Group
Message-ID: <2l364n$c6g@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2l08gl$ahp@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
Hussain Chinoy writes:
>I'm looking for a WWW app for NeXTstep (preferably black).
>I don't have an X emulator and am not going to get one soon.
>Any ideas?
OmniWeb is going into pre-alpha tonight. That means we're mailing out copies
to people on our mailing list. The official alpha will be on the archive
sites in a couple of days. Note that, as alpha software, there will
be some stuff wrong with it. On the other hand, it's way better than
nothing, and I already like it better than Mosaic/MS-Windows and
Mosaic/Mac. (I've never used Mosaic/X.)
How do you join our mailing list? Send mail to <listserv@omnigroup.com>
with the body (not subject) "subscribe omniweb-l your_real_name".
Yow, it's that easy. If you can't receive large files through NeXTmail,
don't sign up -- wait until it goes to the archive servers.
All this, at the amazingly low price of FREE!
-Wil Shipley
Omni Development, Inc.
From: adams@bright.uoregon.edu (Jeff Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How (exactly) can I hook up my synthesizer & print music?
Date: 3 Mar 1994 01:03:31 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, University of Oregon, Eugene OR 97403-1222
Message-ID: <2l3d13$b8q@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <1994Mar2.133814.22136@xexos.com> <CM2Au3.Hus@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
Alright. I have a MIDI-equipped synthesizer. I have the Music Kit.
I have a little box that I stole from a Mac that connects the Synth
to one of the serial ports. I have Nutation. I have the Sonata font.
I still don't have a clue about how to get the synth to talk to the
NeXT, or vice-versa. My #1 objective is to be able to play something
on the keyboard and have it show up as notes in Nutation (or MusicTeX,
or whatever).
This is possible, right? What am I missing? Actually, if anyone
can point me to some very simple-minded directions, I'll be eternally
grateful.
Please e-mail responses if you can. I'll summarize.
Jeff
--
__________________________________________________________________________
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Department of Mathematics
University of Oregon (Eugene)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Oh, Lord, more SLIP troubles (minor ones...)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:47:54 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <khRFSOy00iV80_94sG@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <schwettCM18n8.GFv@netcom.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Mar-94 Oh, Lord, more
SLIP trouble.. by Mark Schwettmann@netcom.
> But the only problem is it doesn't recognize names, like "netcom.com" or
> "soda.berkeley.edu," only numbers like 128.64.201.1 and so on. How do I
> set up the nameserver dealie? The SLIP packages I've used for WIndoze or
> OS/2 usually have an entry for nameservers somewhere... where do I
> provide this information for Transys?
In /etc/resolv.conf, which should look like:
6% cat /etc/resolv.conf
domain andrew.cmu.edu
nameserver 128.2.232.120
nameserver 128.2.1.2
...etc...
Talk to the administrators at your site for the numeric addresses of the
machines that you should use as nameservers.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: white hardware won't tip right
Date: 3 Mar 1994 03:08:36 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association
Message-ID: <2l3kbk$jgv@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I have routinely "tip"ed my app from black
to black hardware. I just installed on white
hardware and have transfered (with tip) small
files balck to white. When i try to transfer my
tarred, compressed and uuencoded app (at 2.6MB)
the transfer loses 40 bytes. Needles to say,
that is a complete failure. In summary
black to black tip of large files works
black to white fails.
any help out there??
I also tried white to white, but even though
i had a tip cub9600 connection, the
transfer rate was 2400 baud, to slow
to test the large file transfer.
any help out there?
advTHANKSance
jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dynamically allocated IP address for SLIP?
Date: 3 Mar 1994 02:05:00 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l3gkc$9bc@news.iastate.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Mar1091123@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Carl Edman writes
Carl:
I've read of your posts over the years and have always found them extremely
well informed. In fact, I sometimes pick up threads I was ignoring if I see
your name appearing, so imagine my delight to get to "explain" a few things
to you
[]
[]But why, o why, o why ? I do not understand why ! There are several
[]billion valid IP addresses and currently there are about 2 million
[]machines on the Internet. Getting a few extra addresses for a few
[]dozen SLIP users per site should be cheap and easy. As for the
well......
There are, in theory, 2^32 IP addresses.
my next tells me
Mathematica 2.2 for NeXT
Copyright 1988-93 Wolfram Research, Inc.
-- NeXT graphics initialized --
In[1]:= 2^32
Out[1]= 4294967296
So a pretty big number. But first you format them, which loses, I think a
factor of four (does anyone know exactly?), then you go and give out Class
B addresses, that allow you to have
In[2]:= 255*255
Out[2]= 65025
addresses to all sorts of places that do not begin to use the full number
(here at the Ames Lab we are class B --- and should be--- and have a
whooping 5,000 machines. I *think* Iowa State is also Class B and has a
roughly comparable number, so right here in a little town of 50,000 people
we are wasting 100K IP#s. Even worse, a friend recently told me of his
liberal arts college, which shall remain nameless, that grabbed one of the
last class Bs "just in case" and has ~100 machines on the net now, so > 150
thousand "missing" IP#s in central Iowa, and still counting....). The
origin of this mismatch is that the internet grew much more "horizontally"
than "vertically" when people were planning things out.
Anyway, the upshot is that IP#s are becoming a bit of a scarce commodity (I
joked at a recent meeting with Hal Varian, the great economist of NeXT-dom,
that we should speculate in IP# futures :) Class C's (255 numbers) are
still readily available but are being snapped up rapidly as the Internet
grows (your figure of two million machines is off, I *think* by almost an
order of magnitude, largely because of commercial growth and, apparently,
the popularity of Mosaic/WWW). I've heard estimates from some of our
networking gurus that there will be no more IP#s to be had in 3-5 years
(apparently there are solutions being discussed, but no one is entirely
sure what form they will take).
None of this contradicts your central thesis, that dynamic IP #s are EVIL
things. Anyplace running more than a fly by night SLIP configuration
should probably just get a dedicated class C for it, although I'm not
entirely sure what the administrative overhead would be.
For now, I'm keeping my #s, and maybe applying (investing?? :) in a
personal class C "just in case".
Tom
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Opener.app, BinHex, and MIME Mail app for Mac?
Date: 3 Mar 1994 02:41:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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References: <2kiebe$ckt@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: Opener BinHex Mac Eudora MIME Mail
In article <2kiebe$ckt@agate.berkeley.edu> I wrote:
>It looks like most of the new BinHex 4.0 files from Mac cannot
>be unpacked by Opener.app.
There were basically two problems and now I can read Mac WordPerfect
files sent with BinHex encoding using Opener.
One was that Opener tries to run 'unsit' program automatically after
decoding BinHex. Most BinHex 4.0 files, at least ones I have seen, are
*not* processed with StuffIt, thus 'unsit' was totally unnecessary.
The second problem was that 'mcvert' program that decodes BinHex
file creates a MacBinary file which has all the resource forks
combined. This is done, I assume, on the assumption that eventual
destination of the decoded binary file is a Mac, e.g., for use with
downloading and FTP to a Mac. However, for opening Mac files
directly on the NeXT (like when opening a WordPerfect or FreeHand
documents), we don't want a MacBinary file. We just need the data
fork portion only.
'mcvert', as shipped with Opener does not seem to save the data
fork by itself, so I munged it to do so. I just commented out a few
lines in the source. If anyone want the changes, let me know.
--
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Oh, Lord, more SLIP troubles (minor ones...)
In-Reply-To: schwett@netcom.com's message of Wed, 2 Mar 1994 10:18:43 GMT
To: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar2084449@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 13:44:46 GMT
In article <schwettCM18n8.GFv@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) writes:
But the only problem is it doesn't recognize names, like "netcom.com" or
"soda.berkeley.edu," only numbers like 128.64.201.1 and so on. How do I set
up the nameserver dealie? The SLIP packages I've used for WIndoze or OS/2
usually have an entry for nameservers somewhere... where do I provide this
information for Transys?
Domain name information is completely unrelated to any particular SLIP
package you are using. Read 'man 5 resolver'.
Carl Edman
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From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: Some (certainly stupid) questions on Mosaic configuration
Message-ID: <1994Mar2.160549.7983@Princeton.EDU>
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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:05:49 GMT
In article <2kvofa$nk7@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu
writes:
> In article <ARROUYE.94Mar1122327@petole.imag.fr> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves
> Arrouye) writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have just got Mosaic in order to run it under CubX'Windows, but I
> > would like some help on its configuration, i.e. what previewers to
> > use. I do not know how to play sound from the command line, so there
> > is no sound, nor do I know if I should compile xdvi/ghostview in order
> > to preview dvi and ps files (CubX'Window is not running in NEXTSTEP
> > but in another screen. If it is running in NS, can I use TeXView and
> > Preview?).
> > If someone has a fully working configuration sample, I would like
> > to know what it is.
>
> Here's how I do it. I run Co-Xist in "rootless" mode, so that the X
> applications run in the Workspace. Then I create an executable script
> in /usr/local/bin/ghostview that contains the two lines:
> mv $1 $1.ps
> open $1.ps
> Now when "ghostview" is called, the standard NeXT preview app will
> open the PostScript files. The same trick works for sounds files,
> mpegs, gifs, etc. I imagine that this will work on CubX (if it has
> a rootless mode).
>
> > Another question: someone managed to make Mosaic work in 16 bit color,
> > but the app only runs on black hardware. Is it possible to get the
> > patches in order to apply them locally?
>
> I posted the patches for 16 bit color on black hardware to cs.orst.edu
> in the README file that accompanies Mosaic-2.2-NeXT. However, I
> don't believe that this patch is necessary for Intel hardware.
> --
> Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
> voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
> fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Here's another way to do it:
1) Create a .mailcap file with the following contents:
audio/*; /usr/local/bin/extopen %s snd
image/gif; /usr/local/bin/extopen %s gif
image/jpeg; /usr/local/bin/extopen %s jpeg
video/*; /usr/local/bin/extopen %s mpg
application/postscript; /usr/local/bin/extopen %s ps
application/x-dvi; /usr/local/bin/extopen %s dvi
message/rfc822; xterm -e metamail %s
text/x-html; mosaic -ngh %s; test=test "$DISPLAY"
text/x-html; lynx -force_html -emacs -emacskeys %s; needsterminal
This mailcap file says, basically, that "extopen" should be called to handle an
image or audio file. The reason you can't call "open" directly is two-fold:
a) "open" requires that the target file have the right extension;
b) "open" will return right away, and Mosaic will delete the temporary file
which is holding the image, often before the target app has had a chance to
open the file.
Now here's "extopen":
#!/bin/csh
/bin/mv $1 ${1}.$2
/usr/bin/open ${1}.$2
All I do here is give the temporary file (created by Mosaic) the correct
extension (renaming it in the process, so that Mosaic won't be able to remove
it), then invoke "open" to handle it as appropriate.
You may want to get fancier with extopen ... e.g., put in something like:
(sleep 30; rm ${1}.$2)&
as the last line (create a background process to remove the temporary file),
but I'm not sure that will work; if you don't do that, you'll have to delete
these files by hand (they can be very big).
Serge J. Goldstein
From: sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Accounting
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 1994 22:24:58 -0800
Organization: University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <sandrac-020394222458@port50.annex1.net.ubc.ca>
One high end package is coming from Alberta and is intended for the oil
companies switching to Nextstep.... The accounting package can be
customized for the end users easily... also interesting is the fact it
works with Borlands Interbase ! The company has also got goverment funding
for this project... Thats all I know... contact a Alberta user group if you
want more...
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From: bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson)
Subject: DMP
Message-ID: <1994Mar3.061824.15473@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 06:18:24 GMT
Is "Dots" the only program that will let me use a parallel printer
(dot matrix) w/ NSi? I've asked many times but gotten no response. It
costs $150 min from Alembic. I was hoping for a cheaper solution. ANY
info appreciated. Thanks.
bp
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From: cmaeda@cs.washington.edu (Chris Maeda)
Subject: NEXTMAIL to MIME converter?
Message-ID: <1994Mar3.082630.8277@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 08:26:30 GMT
Apologies if this has been asked before. Has someone written
something that converts a nextmail message to a mime message?
(For example, to read nextmail messages in MH on a random unix box...)
Thanks,
Chris Maeda (cmaeda@cs.washington.edu)
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Backspace and Fish
Message-ID: <CM2w2u.HuK@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 07:42:30 GMT
I am using the Backspace program on a PC with the Aquarium module. I seem
to not be able to select the type of fish nor the number. The same 6 fish
(which are quite beautiful) keep showing up. Is there a way to have more,
or different ones at least? I have lot's of fish in the fish folder.
Also, I'd like my children to be able to idebtify the fish. Could they
have labels identifying them? I do realize this is not a MCA, but it is
important to us. Thank's ...
--
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University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Isn't anyone interested in energy saving?
Message-ID: <CM2yvv.JnM@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <CLyt6F.Czn@utstat.toronto.edu> <CLzsxH.L9@ripple.uunet>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 08:43:07 GMT
In article <CLzsxH.L9@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes:
>
>It's already done... My monitor does an auto power down when it does not
>receive new signals... so set backspace to black. When backspace kicks in the
>monitor does not receive new signals and does an auto power down. When I get
>back to my desk I just move my mouse and it all comes alive again.
This method only works for some monitors, such as some of the Nanao monitors
and the 15" Viewsonic I used for a while (nice inexpensive monitor). However,
many newer monitors, such as the Viewsonic 17G which is displaying 8 fish
right now, follow what is called the VESA DPMS standard. This is supported
by the ATI GUP VL driver, in Windows, but not in NS...
[ ]
--
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University of Toronto
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From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland)
Subject: Re: Accounting Software
Message-ID: <CM1sJy.H4x@agedwards.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:28:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
References: <1994Mar01.071707.112005@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc.
Mont Rothstein (mrothste@worf.acs.calpoly.edu) wrote:
: The company I work for is getting ready to move to NeXTSTEP!
: I'm interested in what accounting packages are out there, and thoughts
: and comments on them.
[I post this because there are some questions to the Net contained
herein.]
Mont,
There are two that I know by name
* CheckSum --- more of a personal financial manager, you still might
want to check with info@sirius.com about a business-flavored
app.
* Fiscal Dimension ----
This is more of a hard-core ledger thing. My wife liked
it (she's a CPA) for a business, but not for home. I think
the address is info@axsys.com
There's another one that I remember hearing about recently that divides
the interface from the data (clever idea, huh?) and allows different
people to operate different portions of the package. Distributed Objects
was used for communications between the data server and the interface
clients. Does anybody have info on this? I've seen it in c.s.n.announce,
so maybe it's in one of the summaries stored on the archives. (Scott,
can you help here?)
Last but not least, congratulations on moving to NeXTStep :-). Does it
feel good? Maybe you could share your strategies with the Net (over in
.advocacy, probably)
-cj
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: IPT uShare still around?
Message-ID: <CM2zzn.KA1@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <1994Mar2.133814.22136@xexos.com> <CM2Au3.Hus@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 09:06:59 GMT
In article <CM2Au3.Hus@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> dimitri@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko) writes:
[ ]
>Although I hesitated to post this, I must strongly advise against this
>product. After 6 months after paying money we finally got an
>installable Intel version only to find that it's incredibly slow, doesn't
>support the server side, has no documentation and crashes while
>copying a large file over the AppleTalk link. So much for IPT.
Hmm...well I can only talk about the black version, although I am about
to install the Intel version.
- Not slow
-Doesn't crash
-Documentation is fine ( for both versions)
- supports the server side
IPT has been very helpful. Are we talking about the same product?
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
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From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: Re: Oh, Lord, more SLIP troubles (minor ones...)
Message-ID: <schwettCM33C6.By8@netcom.com>
Keywords: slip trouble ack!
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <schwettCM18n8.GFv@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 10:19:18 GMT
Many thanks to those who helped me out with the nameserver issue!
It's working great now...
Mark
From: markl@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Albert Markl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Source Code Control System
Date: 3 Mar 1994 11:07:04 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <2l4gco$pk4@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Hi Everybody!
Does anybody have experience with SCCS, RCS or similar on a Next?
We are doing program development at two different sites 150 miles
apart on some rather large packet for trajectory optimization. This
includes an X11 graphical user interface (no NextStep, alas)
Source code is now about 10 Meg. So we desperately need some kind of
system that helps us keep track of different versions. It should be:
- simple to use
- based on some system that is machine independent and widely
available (NeXT, Sun, HP).
- capable of handling deep directory trees
- running at different sites simultaneously (IP connection exist)
At the moment we're investigating the Shape Tools of the TU Berlin,
but the best front end they seem to give is Emacs.
I remember vaguely having heard of a NextStep application that shows
file in a normal file viewer and allows checking out by simple
drag'n'drop. I think it used a quite common underlying system (RCS?).
Any hints and/or experiences with such a beast would be welcome
Al
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Subject: Re: NS 3.2/I and putenv()
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Mar2115138@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Date: 02 Mar 1994 11:51:37 GMT
References: <2kvube$pgg@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Organization: I speak for myself
In-reply-to: Charlesa@learned.co.uk's message of Tue, 01 Mar 94 17:32:19 BST
there are a number of bsd related calls that the NeXT does not support...as
a result I've found the original bsd code and simply made a library
which contains all of the missing bits (called, libmissing.a of course)...
The contents I have so far are:
strdup()
putenv()
getenv()
setenv()
I notice that more and more things are looking for getcwd, which is implemented
under POSIX, but sometimes compiling wiht -posix causes more headaches than
are needed.
If there is sufficient demand I would be happy to place this library on
cs.orst.edu...it is for Black hardware, I don't have intel and I don't
have the slightest interest or knowledge about how to compile crossplatform.
Scott
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Subject: Re: How to install talkd in rc.local
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Mar2115528@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Date: 02 Mar 1994 11:55:28 GMT
References: <2kuh5u$4og@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Organization: I speak for myself
In-reply-to: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu's message of 1 Mar 1994 04:43:42 GMT
In article <2kuh5u$4og@news.acns.nwu.edu> mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen) writes:
I'm trying to figure out how to get my talkd installed in my rc.local. All
I've been able to do so far is hang my system. Here's what I put in there
(which is now commented out)
/etc/usr/talkd && >/dev/console
What am I doing wrong?
Well, I may be entirely incorrect, but to my knowledge talkd is spawned by
inetd and therefore should be configured in inetd.conf. The line I have
looks like
talk dgram udp wait root /usr/etc/talkd talkd
I also run ntalkd (recommended):
ntalk dgram udp wait root /usr/etc/ntalkd ntalkd
Now all you need to do is make sure that:
talk 517/udp
ntalk 518/udp
is in /etc/services (and should probably be in netinfo as well)...
Give inetd a kick and next time a talk request comes in it should do its
job.
Works for me.
Scott
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Subject: Re: Some (certainly stupid) questions on Mosaic configuration
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Mar2120617@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Date: 02 Mar 1994 12:06:17 GMT
References: <ARROUYE.94Mar1122327@petole.imag.fr><2kvofa$nk7@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
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In-reply-to: Hal.Varian@umich.edu's message of 1 Mar 1994 15:54:18 GMT
In article <2kvofa$nk7@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes:
In article <ARROUYE.94Mar1122327@petole.imag.fr> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves
Arrouye) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I have just got Mosaic in order to run it under CubX'Windows, but I
> would like some help on its configuration, i.e. what previewers to
> use. I do not know how to play sound from the command line, so there
> is no sound, nor do I know if I should compile xdvi/ghostview in order
> to preview dvi and ps files (CubX'Window is not running in NEXTSTEP
> but in another screen. If it is running in NS, can I use TeXView and
> Preview?).
> If someone has a fully working configuration sample, I would like
> to know what it is.
Here's how I do it. I run Co-Xist in "rootless" mode, so that the X
applications run in the Workspace. Then I create an executable script
in /usr/local/bin/ghostview that contains the two lines:
mv $1 $1.ps
open $1.ps
Now when "ghostview" is called, the standard NeXT preview app will
open the PostScript files. The same trick works for sounds files,
mpegs, gifs, etc. I imagine that this will work on CubX (if it has
a rootless mode).
That works well -- but I did something slightly different. Since running in
rootless mode tends to drag on performance, I went ahead and compiled
ghostview, not that difficult really, and Mosaic 2.x uses ~/.mailcap entries
to tell it what previewers to use...
I don't know if the original poster wanted to know about other external
viewers, but I rely pretty much on ImageMagick to do all the other graphics
formats. With some minor code changes it is as quick as native NeXT
browsers (the code change is basically changing TrueColor to StaticColor
in a number of instances -- in theory this can be a Bad Thing, but it has
worked on everything so far and is FAST).
> Another question: someone managed to make Mosaic work in 16 bit color,
> but the app only runs on black hardware. Is it possible to get the
> patches in order to apply them locally?
I posted the patches for 16 bit color on black hardware to cs.orst.edu
in the README file that accompanies Mosaic-2.2-NeXT. However, I
don't believe that this patch is necessary for Intel hardware.
--
Unless it was just me, those patches only worked for Co-Xist -- the modified
one I posted to cs.orst.edu was for CubX and the changes were outlined in
another post I made not too long ago. They basically went like this:
1) In HTMLimages.c change the RGB masks to the values given by xdpyinfo,
I don't have them to hand, but I recall them being 0x00f 0x0f and 0xf.
2) Change those same values in src/pixmaps.c
3) Change the occurance of TrueColor to StaticColor (could be nasty, but
hey, it works) everywhere you find it. Predominately HTMLimages.c and
picread.c
4) Change the pixel pixmap values from 1,6,11 in src/pixmaps.c to 4,8,12.
This should be the same line as change 2 methinks.
Once I did all that, Mosaic worked just wonderfully. Mind you, any day
now someone is coming out with native NeXTSTEP but that's the way the
hacking ball bounces.
Scott
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From: olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson)
Subject: Re: IPT uShare still around?
Message-ID: <7627073874832@raptor.mcs.anl.gov>
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References: <1994Mar2.133814.22136@xexos.com> <CM2Au3.Hus@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> <CM2zzn.KA1@utstat.toronto.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:09:47 GMT
I have to agree with Philip. We've had good luck with IPT. Yes, there
have been some problems with printing large files with the NS/Moto
version; however I never got around to talking to their tech support
about it.
For those with Sparcs, IPT also has a Sparc version of their product
which is rather faster than the NeXT one. The printing problem went
away with this version...
Their phone number is (805) 541-3000.
--bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille)
Subject: How to transform a tiff in GIF ?
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Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:49:45 GMT
Hi !
Do you know a freeware that takes a Tiff and transform it in gif ? and
Vice-versa ?
Thanks in advance !
- Eric
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From: pgriffin@gluon.phys.ufl.edu (Paul A. Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Moving the Dock under 3.2
Date: 3 Mar 1994 19:32:03 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <2l5dvkINN13o@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Keywords: Workspace, Dock
Under NS 3.1, I was able to move the Dock from the right side of the
screen to the far left via the dwrite
"dwrite Workspace DockOriginX 0"
Now that I have upgraded to 3.2, this doesn't seem to work for me.
I find that having the dock on the left is convenient because
I am left-handed. Does anyone out there know of a way of moving the
dock around under 3.2?
Sincerely,
--Paul
--
Paul A. Griffin, pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu
Physics Department, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL, 32611
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next Mail format document
Date: 3 Mar 1994 13:46:53 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403031916.AA05654@proxima.com>
I had a document (from NeXT) at one point which described the NeXT Mail format,
but have since misplaced it. Anybody have this?
--
Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661
Systems Engineer McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln256%Pln256/snlbx]sb3135071790101768542287578439snlbxq'|dc
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: equations
Date: 3 Mar 1994 17:23:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2l56e6$83n@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <JNICOLAS.94Mar2074115@whistler.mit.edu>
Julien Nicolas writes
> EquationBuilder is a nice solution for typesetting one or two
> equations, and saving them as eqn/eps files, but it is very
> awkward to have to create a new file for each equation.
Hear, Hear!
This is my biggest beef with EqB. By all means write them and tell
them so; they're very receptive to comments and suggestions. But so
far I seem to have been the only one urging them to make EqB less of
a "single-equation" tool. I routinely use EqB to write out long
derivations. Its quite feasible and, to my mind, easier than in
other apps I've tried, but EqB is far from being optimized for this
purpose.
Ciao, Stefano
---
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to transform a tiff in GIF ?
Date: 3 Mar 1994 17:24:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2l56gs$846@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CM3IMx.KBM@cs.uiuc.edu>
Eric de_la_Tribouille writes
> Do you know a freeware that takes a Tiff and transform it in gif
> ? and Vice-versa ?
Vice-versa is easy with ImageViewer; it'll read gifs and write tiffs.
But it does not do the reverse tiff->giff.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer)
Subject: WriteUp reviews?
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Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:47:45 GMT
So, what's the word on WriteUp? Could someone who's been able to
test-drive the release version give us a review? I'm particularly
interested in how it compares to WriteNow, and wondering what
features of WriteUp would make it worth my $99 (student) to switch.
(Certainly the incentive to support native NS apps is a strong
inducement, but, alas, my software budget is quite limited.)
Thanks for your thoughts!
-- Will
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were beautiful in themselves and
Gradual Student needed not the rouge of speculation
Department of Biology to quicken their charm, but that was
Indiana University long ago, before modern science
Bloomington, Indiana 47401 USA was born.
wfischer@indiana.edu -- William Bateson, 1893
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IPT uShare still around?
Date: 3 Mar 1994 16:10:05 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
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References: <CM2Au3.Hus@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
In article <1994Mar2.133814.22136@xexos.com>, Mark Chamberlain
<mark@xexos.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to get hold of the IPT guys, they make uShare, the product
that
> connects Macs to NeXTs in a reasonable way. They don't respond to email,
does
> anyone out there have their real contact details?
We went through the same thing several months ago. Since IPT didn't have
a product for Intel yet, we tried several alternatives before settling on
the Xinet KAShare package (help@xinet.com). One the best things we did.
Although the package is not avialable for NEXTSTEP (we run it on one of
our SGIs), it does a _wonderful_ job of making a Unix box into an
AppleShare gateway (it can go both ways, I believe). Performance is
fantastic (disk benchmarks were 4 times faster on a mounted Appleshare
volume on our Quadra 700, than the same benchmarks on the Quadras internal
drive), it is stable as a rock, a joy to maintain, and a cinch to install.
In short, all the things you should expect from a commercial software
package, but rarely get these days. This is one case where a non-NEXTSTEP
solution is probably best (only if you have suitable hardware, of course)
For folks who are interested in integrating their Unix networks with their
Appletalk networks, I _highly_ recommend evaluating the Xinet product.
(std disclaimer: no affiliation with Xinet other than being a very happy
customer)
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to transform a tiff in GIF ?
Date: 3 Mar 1994 17:51:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2l583p$7rq@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2l56gs$846@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Stefano Pagiola writes
> Eric de_la_Tribouille writes
> > Do you know a freeware that takes a Tiff and transform it in gif
> > ? and Vice-versa ?
>
> Vice-versa is easy with ImageViewer; it'll read gifs and write tiffs.
> But it does not do the reverse tiff->giff.
>
> ---
ViewGif3.app does TIFF->GIF conversion, but ViewGIF3 is not a
freeware. But at shareware cost of about $5.00, it's almost free. (Am
I wrong about the cost, anyone?)
--
- Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley Email : tyf@soda.berkeley.edu -
From: erik@rat.se (Erik Heimdahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GIF to TIFF.
Date: 3 Mar 1994 13:08:56 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University
Sender: root@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <9403031801.AA23298@_rat.se>
If anybody out there has got a PD or SW GIF to TIFF converter that's
got a litte more juice than ViewGif 3.0.2 (I keep getting "This Type
Of GIF Currently Not Supported"), PLEASE mail it to me.
I have _A BUNCH_ of computer rendered pictures that I can't view on
my NeXT.
/erik
PS.
My address is: erik@rat.se (in case the News-server I am
using managed to gobble my return path.)
DS.
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From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to PasteUp?
Message-ID: <1994Mar3.182055.1815@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb28100347@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:20:55 GMT
In article <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb28100347@shrug.dur.ac.uk> "Scott A.
McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> writes:
>
> Whatever happened to all the changes that were supposed to happen to
> PasteUp by afs? Have they been delayed because of the delay on WriteUp?
In a word, yes. That's the bad news. The good news is that WriteUp is now
shipping and in excellent shape (IMHO). Since there is only one source
tree for both products, PasteUp benefits 100% from all the work we put
into WriteUp. That means no more crashes, several hundred percent faster
text handling performance, an end to funny redrawing, etc. We would not
have shipped WriteUp if any of those things were still broken.
Since I'm doing the work, I'll give you the current weather forecast for
PasteUp 2.5: I expect it to take 2-3 weeks to perform integration testing.
After that there will be a short beta test/sanity check. Since the primary
routines being changed have been tested pretty thoroughly by the WriteUp
beta test group, I'm not expecting any major "gotchas" or "back to the
drawing boards." Then we ship. Mass cheering ensues... 8^)
--
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Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are
Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
From: Alan Goldberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE...
Date: 03 Mar 94 08:32:28
Organization: Softpac Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <alan.94Mar383228@softpac>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Hi
I am looking for a list of project management software applications which run on N/S Intel.
I would appreciate any assistance on this subject.
Thanks in Advance
Alan Goldberg
Softpac Australia
From: mlescoez@ny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: running BBS on NeXT hardware under 3.2..
Date: 3 Mar 1994 17:42:32 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University
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Message-ID: <9403032239.AA12049@ny.psca.com>
Dear all,
Does anyone have success stories regarding running a BBS under
NeXTSTEP? I would appreciate any information regarding your setup.
Nice features to have would be:
News/Mail access.
PostIt areas.
VT100 access.
Also, the concept of "rooms" seems appealing. (Citadel)
Suggestions welcome.
mark
---
Mark LeScoezec Paradigm Systems
System Administrator (212)850-8135
ml@ny.psca.com 666 Third Ave
NeXTmail/MIME okay NY, NY 10017
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gfield@sirius.UVic.CA (Glen Field)
Subject: 3D Drawing program
Message-ID: <1994Mar3.222957.5162@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 22:29:57 GMT
I'm looking for a 3D drawing program capable of representing
a combination of graphics primitives (rectangular prism, cylinder,
line, etc) in three space. Sophisticated rendering is not required.
Wire frame is sufficient but it would be nice if hidden line
removal were available. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Glen
gfield@ME.UVic.ca
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC on black hardware (bug and workaround)
Date: 3 Mar 1994 23:17:02 GMT
Organization: mal franz, mal anna
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l5r5e$qqp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Hi all,
Thorsten and I encountered an excellent joke within SoftPC, I gotta
tell you all. Trying to reach the point when Microsoft Windows (TM)
shades the window gray and presents you the hour-glass it happens
quite often that the window stays black and eats your cursor. OK, such
things happen, they aren't funny at all. How come Thorsten and I had
so much fun? We found a way through. Consider: You type `win' and get
the following panel.
---------------------
| MS-Windows Launch |
| ................. |
| 640 x 400 |
| [OK] |
---------------------
Now (1) make sure, the SoftPC window is your active window, place (2)
your cursor upon some other window of another application, and (3) be
very quick, because you have to confirm the window-size with the
RETURN key and flee with the mouse into some other app *immediatly*.
So you need both hands to accomplish the task. Once Windoze has
launched everything runs fine. You know for sure, you're back in the
good ol'times.
Might be you cannot reproduce the game and that's partially why I'm
posting this. Though, really, it's just amusing.
Andreas,
From: jamie@mocha.ucsd.edu (James S. Gerber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: swapfile woes...
Date: 3 Mar 1994 23:44:44 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <2l5spc$1tc@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: swapfile
I am running NSI, and I find that the size of the swapfile never
decreases, until eventually I need to re-boot to avoid a crash.
When I run large applications, the size of the application increases.
Then, when I quit the application and log out, the swapfile does not
return to a smaller size.
Is there a way to reclaim that diskspace without re-booting?
Thanks,
jamie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Postgres / Shared Memory Package
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 22:31:16 GMT
Message-ID: <CM4185.DIp@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399
I recall someone having offered an implementation of System V-style
shared memory and a port of Postgres that this made possible, but I
can no longer find any reference to either.
Could someone help me get in touch with these folks?
Thanks!
- Irving
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From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can EDIT possibly show line breaks?
Date: 4 Mar 1994 02:06:13 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2l652l$2cm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
I am just curious if this is a hidden feature that someone has discovered.
MSWord can do it, and it is a handy feature for LaTeX purposes.
--
Sincerely,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics
Subject: "Morphing" software wanted...
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 3 Mar 1994 19:48:59 -0700
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2l67ir$egm@vesta.unm.edu>
Summary: Image "morphing"
Keywords: NeXT... Macs...
Hi!,
I'm a photography student at the University of New Mexico, and I
have finally built the computer that I've always wanted... A NeXTStation
M68 (68040 Mono)... Now the problem... The only image "morphing" software
that I have is for a Mac... (quadra)... Is there anyone out there that
could give me a way to run this program on my favorite computer. After
all... it has a better display... A higher dpi printer... and most
importantly it uses the same CPU...
Any help, answers, thoughts, and ideas would be welcomed.
(that includes any kind of NeXT demo & recommending ideas :-)
Thanks,
--Aaron...
--
amb78@unm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox)
Subject: Re: Accounting
Message-ID: <CM47Ky.I8M@arcane.calgary.ab.ca>
Sender: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox)
Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd.
References: <sandrac-020394222458@port50.annex1.net.ubc.ca>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 00:48:34 GMT
Sandra Christensen writes
>One high end package is coming from Alberta and is intended for the
>oil companies switching to Nextstep.... The accounting package can
>be customized for the end users easily... also interesting is the
>fact it works with Borlands Interbase ! The company has also got
>goverment funding for this project... Thats all I know... contact
>a Alberta user group if you want more...
You probably know more about it than we do :)
Try sending mail to info@steppingstone.com. The package is/was called
Cornerstone or Steppingstone or some such.
I assume that's what we're talking about. If not, we've got many
developers here in Alberta.
Terry Wilcox
--
Terry Wilcox (terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca)
`Some praise at morning what they blame at night;
But always think the last opinion right.'
- Alexander Pope
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From: al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis)
Subject: Re: GIF to TIFF.
Message-ID: <1994Mar4.034626.6412@rbc.uucp>
Sender: al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis)
Organization: Huh?
References: <9403031801.AA23298@_rat.se>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 03:46:26 GMT
Erik Heimdahl writes
> If anybody out there has got a PD or SW GIF to TIFF converter that's
> got a litte more juice than ViewGif 3.0.2 (I keep getting "This Type
> Of GIF Currently Not Supported"), PLEASE mail it to me.
> I have _A BUNCH_ of computer rendered pictures that I can't view on
> my NeXT.
I just use an editor (Edit and emacs both work) to change the tag at the
beginning of the file. As I recall, the ones that don't work say "GIF89". The
ones that do say "GIF87", so I change it. So far I have had 100% success.
From: adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu (Alok K. Dhir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Xwindows?
Date: 4 Mar 1994 07:02:11 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2l6mdj$itn@hecate.umd.edu>
Hello all - I've recently installed NS/I3.2 and am thoroughly loving it.
I am in search of an Xserver for my system...preferably a free one... Can
XFree2.0 be made to run under NeXTStep, or should I look elsewhere?
Thanks for any pointers...
BTW - if there are no good, free ones available, what is a good commercially
available one?
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MUD/Moo client for NSI 3.2?
Date: 4 Mar 1994 10:04:28 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l713c$bmb@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Are there any MUD/Moo clients that will run under NSI 3.2?
Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to transform a tiff in GIF ?
Date: 04 Mar 1994 11:39:44 GMT
Organization: I speak for myself
Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Mar4113944@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
References: <CM3IMx.KBM@cs.uiuc.edu>
In-reply-to: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu's message of Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:49:45 GMT
There are a number of programs out there that will let you convert from
tif to tiff or the other way around, including GraphicsWorkshop, ImageViewer,
and a few that will be around in the near future as well.
I myself do most of my conversions with ImageMagick -- its generally
designed for X, but I don't necessarily see why the convert program will
not function without X. It even supports GIF89 transparancy if you have
a alpha tiff to convert.
If you want more info, just drop me a line.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: Re: Problems of PS files from dvips
Message-ID: <1994Mar3.180928.28871@aplki.toppoint.de>
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
References: <2kt18d$isk@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 18:09:28 GMT
In article <2kt18d$isk@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
writes:
> If I get a chance I will download the Tailor demo and
> see if the PS versions of the TeX fonts work with it.
In the newest version of Tailor they should.
My only problem were special symbols like the bullets generated by '\itemize'.
They don't appear as PS fonts in the dvips output but as TeX fonts.
Did anybody solve this?
A. Ploeger
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From: tgschwin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Thomas Gschwind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Keyboard-mapping?!?
Date: 4 Mar 1994 12:37:33 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <2l7a2d$14m@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Hello *,
can someone tell me, how to change the keyboard-mappings in NeXTStep3.2?
/NextDeveloper/Demos/keyboard.app, does not work correctly and can't
assign key sequences! My problem:
[F2] mapps to "!", [F3] to "\"", ... (nearly all special keys map
to some useless keycodes!
Thanks in advance,
Thomas
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From: tgschwin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Thomas Gschwind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Characterset
Date: 4 Mar 1994 12:39:45 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <2l7a6h$14m@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Hello *,
can you tell me, which character-set is used under NeXTStep3.2 (it does
not seem to be ISO-8859/1!)? Can someone tell me, how to teach the Terminal
application, how to map ISO-8859/1 characters to the according NeXTStep
ones?!?
Thanks, Thomas
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From: Charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS 3.2/I and putenv()
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 94 14:05:20 BST
Organization: EUnet GB
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In article <2l0buf$1jo@steffi.demon.co.uk>, <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> writes:
> What a shame we didn't get to see what he was compiling.
>
> Well here we go again with another putenv flame ware.
>
> Mr EPS please step forward, wait for it wait for it :-)
>
> To the poster, if nobody sends you a putenv then get in touch.
>
Poster here; thanks for the offer, and to all those who helpfully replied.
What putenv flame ware? If this thread has a history, I am <blissfully>
unaware. Didn't mean to open old battlewounds...
From: Charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP3 Server on NeXTSTEP
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 94 14:20:46 BST
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <2l7jia$7la@marble.Britain.EU.net>
References: <1994Mar1.033214.1161@weston.com>
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>
> Does anyone have a POP3 server running under NeXTSTEP? If so, please tell
> me about it.
>
I tried it, but didn't work too well. Not sure if it was the pop demon i was
using, or, much more likely, the PC mail client. Anyway, I dumped PoP from the
NeXT. Sorry not to be of more help...
C.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: "Morphing" software wanted...
Message-ID: <1994Mar4.143751.1086@altsys.com>
Keywords: NeXT... Macs...
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <2l67ir$egm@vesta.unm.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:37:51 GMT
In article <2l67ir$egm@vesta.unm.edu> amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown) writes:
>
>
>Hi!,
> I'm a photography student at the University of New Mexico, and I
>have finally built the computer that I've always wanted... A NeXTStation
>M68 (68040 Mono)... Now the problem... The only image "morphing" software
>that I have is for a Mac... (quadra)... Is there anyone out there that
>could give me a way to run this program on my favorite computer. After
>all... it has a better display... A higher dpi printer... and most
> importantly it uses the same CPU...
> Any help, answers, thoughts, and ideas would be welcomed.
>(that includes any kind of NeXT demo & recommending ideas :-)
> Thanks,
> --Aaron...
>--
>amb78@unm.edu
>
>
>
>
Tiffany from bMD has this feature, in addition to being a powerful
image precessor in it's own right. Send mail to info@bmd.com
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: gbol@custard.think.com (Gregory Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: project management software, native NS PD or shareware apps?
Date: 4 Mar 94 13:30:15
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GBOL.94Mar4133015@custard.think.com>
Any out there?
gregory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bob@newton.uucp (bob)
Subject: Re: Source Code Control System
Message-ID: <1994Mar4.173557.1879@cs.yale.edu>
Summary: DRCS handles directories and distributed development of huge projects
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
References: <2l4gco$pk4@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:35:57 GMT
In article <2l4gco$pk4@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, Albert Markl wrote:
> Does anybody have experience with SCCS, RCS or similar on a Next?
...
> Source code is now about 10 Meg. So we desperately need some kind of
> system that helps us keep track of different versions. It should be:
>
> - simple to use
>
> - based on some system that is machine independent and widely
> available (NeXT, Sun, HP).
>
> - capable of handling deep directory trees
>
> - running at different sites simultaneously (IP connection exist)
...
> I remember vaguely having heard of a NextStep application that shows
> file in a normal file viewer and allows checking out by simple
> drag'n'drop. I think it used a quite common underlying system (RCS?).
>
> Any hints and/or experiences with such a beast would be welcome
I believe that the product you are referring to is DRCS by Software Services
and Solutions, Inc.. DRCS satisfies all of your requirements. It has a drag
and drop GUI under NEXTSTEP; it runs under Solaris, HP/UX, AIX, NEXTSTEP,
UnixWare, and almost all other Unix-based systems. It is capable of handling
all of the resources used in software development, including code, nib files,
images, sounds, and full directory structures. Development projects of
over 1300 files constituting 30Mb of data, code, and documentation have been
managed by development teams with DRCS. DRCS preserves and archives the
directory structure of a project, allowing direct access to components at any
level, and easy manipulation of entire subprojects. DRCS is also compatible
with existing RCS archives and can easily convert them to DRCS projects. As
long as you have an IP connection between your development sites, DRCS can be
used enterprise-wide to keep a master archive.
DRCS uses a floating license server, so the software is not node-locked. The
single user license if $195, and license price drops rapidly as the number of
users increases.
DRCS also works well with CodeReviewer, the analysis tool for software projects
by SS&S, Inc..
If you would like more information on DRCS or CodeReviewer, please contact SS&S
as follows:
Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
94 Murray Street
Meriden, Connecticut 06450
phone: (203) 630-2000
fax: (203) 630-2020
email: CASE_Tools@sss.com
Robert L. Masterson, Vice President,
Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
rlm@sss.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Characterset
In-Reply-To: tgschwin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE's message of 4 Mar 1994 12:39:45 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Mar4105303@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <2l7a6h$14m@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:53:03 GMT
Thomas Gschwind writes:
Thomas> Hello *, can you tell me, which character-set is used under
Thomas> NeXTStep3.2 (it does not seem to be ISO-8859/1!)? Can someone tell
Thomas> me, how to teach the Terminal application, how to map ISO-8859/1
Thomas> characters to the according NeXTStep ones?!? Thanks, Thomas
We need to make a distinction here between "character set" and "character
encoding". A "character set" is the set of glyphs contained within a font.
A certain character set may support one or more "character encodings". Each
"character encoding" specifies a mapping from ASCII character code to glyph
name. ISO-8859 is a "character set" and ISO-8859-1 is a "character encoding".
Now that we have that straight :-), all of Adobe's Roman-style Type 1 fonts
(expect for the *very* oldest), contain Adobe's standard 228 character set.
This character set contains enough glyphs to satisfy the ISO-8859 character
set requirements.
NEXTSTEP, by default, uses it's own "character encoding",
(/NextStepEncoding). In /systemdict, there is also a pre-defined encoding
(/ISOLatin1Encoding) which is the ISO-8859-1 encoding.
Changing the encoding of a font under Display PostScript is easy.
Unfortunately, neither the font panel nor most applications support it,
and I don't think Terminal supports arbitrary mapping of characters as an
input filter. I think this would be a good feature for someone to
implement, though...
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "Morphing" software wanted...
Date: 4 Mar 1994 18:53:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2l803o$nu4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2l67ir$egm@vesta.unm.edu>
Aaron M. Brown writes
> ... The only image "morphing" software
> that I have is for a Mac... (quadra)... Is there anyone out there
> that could give me a way to run this program on my favorite
> computer.
There's a PD morph app on the archives. Called Morph.app, very
appropriately.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with NS/I Video and Screen Blankers?
Date: 4 Mar 1994 19:26:23 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2l820v$pup@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has had the same problem.
I have a PC with a Wingine VLbus board running NS 3.2.
I occasionally have crashes of the video driver (I have
2 different drivers to chose from: one beta, one a final
release.
With both drivers, when Backspace kicks in, I occasionally
have a video driver crash. Either the screen goes black
and cannot be brought back, or it goes haywire and only
with hit and miss mouse and keyboard work can I get a
clean reboot.
With the beta driver I expect this. But the final release
driver (Lucky Goldstar Wingine, or LGI WIngine) I got
a crash, vs. a dozen with the beta driver.
I find that the drivers crash when the screen is dimmed
via software. This includes most BackSpace modules, but
also the dimmer bar in Preferences.app.
Anyone else have this problem? Any solutions? Other
screen dimmers?
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with getting FrameMaker PS to print elsewhere
Date: 3 Mar 1994 21:15:37 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2l5gh9$dp@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1994Feb25.185838.4056@cyantic.com> <1994Feb28.165820.22276@altsys.com>
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lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes:
>Try this:
> * Save your PS file using the 'chosen printer/include fonts'
> option.
>I believe you will have greater success using this method.
No. That does not work either. FrameMaker 3.0 for NS has a bug/feature,
even if you select 'chosen printer/include fonts' FrameMaker does _not_
include them.
Workarounds:
1. Make a RTF document with Edit.app using all the additional fonts you
use in your FrameMaker document. Make a printfile with fonts included.
Open the FM PS file and the Edit PS file in Edit as PS-ASCII text.
Then copy all included fonts from Edit's PS file into the FM file at
the corresponding location.
or
2. Open the FM PS printfile with Preview.app or Tailor.app and _save it
once again_ into a printfile, of course with the 'include fonts' option.
This should add the required fonts, too.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FAT AppSoft Draw?
Date: 3 Mar 1994 21:23:02 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2l5gv6$eo@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CLvzAv.BsE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <2kv734$mpv@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
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bihr@next.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Tom Bihr) writes:
>Haveman) writes:
>> Was there ever a fat version of AppSoft Draw made available?
>You will find the source code in /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Draw on your
>black next.
I think AppSoft Draw and AppKit Draw isn't quite the same! :-))
A fat version of AppSoft Draw was on the 3rd party CD shipped with NS/I 3.1.
But it was one of the buggiest pieces of demo software I've ever seen.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scene_movies
Date: 4 Mar 1994 14:29:06 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403042030.AA12466@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
References: <2l4ejg$eo0@nic-nac.CSU.net>
> spagiola@leland.stanford.edu writes (in comp.sys.misc)
>
> Eric P. Scott writes
> > Actually, the "movies" are just PostScript programs; they can be
> > run from the command line using
> >
> > pft -p -s -f /full/path/to/file
>
> Thanks for the info. Now I can throw out that old copy
> of Scene I kept around just to be able to play those old
> "movies."
>
Umm, not quite -- the most fun ones, eagle and fish, don't work.
Anyone any idea where the "run" command is defined?
> I suspect it would be straight-forward to write a mini-app
> that would simply take the old "movies" if they're
> double-clicked or dropped onto its icon and pass them
> onto the command above. If I knew anything about
> programming, I might even do it :-)
>
Sound like a neat thing to make into a Backspace module -- an even more
dynamic loadable module!
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multimedia (Video & Sound) or AVI player for NeXT
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:55:21
Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis
Message-ID: <nemiroal.93.000AEC87@bus.orst.edu>
Keywords: Mutlimedia, AVI
Hi,
Does anyone know of a Multimedia player for NeXT/Intel that syncs sound and
video? Maybe an AVI player?
Also as I understand it NeXTTime is coming out soon (next release????)
Does anyone know what formats the videos will be in and what other formats
will be supported?
thanks in advance
-Alex
From: smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu (Steven McGrew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next and Appletalk networks
Date: 4 Mar 1994 21:06:53 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l87td$o2d@pith.uoregon.edu>
I have a question?
Are their any products that allow NeXTstep computers to share appletalk
printer. I have a laserwriter 810 pro (apple) which is connected to an
apple ethertalk network. Sicne it is the only printer in the building I
would like to be able to print to it. Are their any solutions available.
If anyone knows of one please post a reply or send me some info.
Thank you in advance.
Steve - smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu
From: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep version of Mosaic???
Date: 4 Mar 1994 21:44:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l8a3u$ctc@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2ktchj$an8@cisun2000.unil.ch>
In article <2ktchj$an8@cisun2000.unil.ch> Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean L.
Hill) writes:
>
> Also, Bill Shipley has recently posted that his company is developing a
> WWW client that is pretty close to Mosaic (sans annotations) which will
> be available free.
>
This is out in alpha...it really exists! And it's very nice. Be patient...
--
Prof. Jeff MacKie-Mason
Dept. of Economics Jan-July '94: California Energy Institute
Univ. of Michigan 2539 Channing Way
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220 Berkeley, CA 94720
internet: jmm@umich.edu phone: 510-642-3570 fax: 510-642-3570
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: samr@wri.com
Subject: VirtSpace - whats the deal?
Message-ID: <samr.762811045@saipan.wri.com>
Sender: news@wri.com ( )
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 19:57:25 GMT
I looked at the demo to VirtSpace (2.6), and it seemed
pretty cool. So i sent them a check for the amount 3-4
weeks ago, but have not received a password to activate my
demo copy.
They dont seem to respond to email, although i did get a read
receipt back.
Are they still in business? Anyone have a phone number to see
whats up?
Any info is appreciated.
Sam Roseman
Champaign, IL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au
Subject: Taylor UUCP configuration and setup
Message-ID: <CM5H1E.Kt7@number_one.apana.org.au>
Keywords: Taylor UUCP
Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nikki A Vincent)
Organization: Cafe de Strachan - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:10:25 GMT
Hi
Now that I seem to have set up Taylor UUCP on my station, I thought that
I'd post a formal "thank you" to all those who responded with suggestions.
After a couple of weeks of hard work trying to set it up (sounds bad,
doesn't it) I've now got it all going.
So, if you need any help (or at least some help that I can provide) with
setting Taylor UUCP up on your machine, please email me and I'll do my
best to help.
Cheers
Nicole
---
----------------------NeXTmail Accepted and preferred --------------------
Nicole Vincent : nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au
SYDNEY NSW AUSTRALIA
On a day when nothing happens, are Life is a health hazard,...
they gonna cancel the 6 o'clock news? watch out or it will get you.
WIRED, February 1994, pp. 50. ME :-)
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep version of Mosaic???
Date: 5 Mar 1994 02:59:29 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l8sih$egu@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2l8a3u$ctc@agate.berkeley.edu>
Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason writes
[]In article <2ktchj$an8@cisun2000.unil.ch> Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch
(Sean L.
[]Hill) writes:
[]>
[]> Also, Bill Shipley has recently posted that his company is developing a
[]> WWW client that is pretty close to Mosaic (sans annotations) which will
[]> be available free.
[]>
[]
[]This is out in alpha...it really exists! And it's very nice. Be
patient...
Very nice is NOT the right phrase. This is already, or soon will be, the
best Web Browser around, as befits the beauty of the NeXTstep interface.
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: equations
Message-ID: <1994Mar4.224056.4614@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <2l05de$s4p@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 22:40:56 GMT
In article <2l05de$s4p@Times.Stanford.EDU> hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
writes:
> Tom Marchioro writes
> |
> | in theory, do everything people accomplish with TeX or Framemaker in a
> | couple of easy to use WYSIWYG NeXT tools.
>
> Almost, but not quite. I was very disappointed to scan the recent
> announcement of WriteUp and see that it doesn't support cross
> references. These seem to be somewhat essential for a technical paper,
> though I suppose one could always bite the bullet and do them by hand.
Well, I'm very disappointed about at least 15 things that I wish WriteUp
1.0 could do. But you know what? I make no apologies. Look at the version
number: WriteUp _1.0_. It's not God's word processor yet, folks. No 1.0
product ever is. We took a survey, we built the 80-90% feature set, we
tested it, and we shipped it. I happen to think it runs pretty well, or I
wouldn't have voted to ship it. People have been _begging_ for a decent
tool to run on NS/Intel, and that's what we have delivered. AFS is not
going out of business tomorrow. We've got big plans for future releases,
but the product is worth considering right now for a host of good reasons.
(I'm not going to repeat the feature list here.)
Cross-referencing is a valuable feature, I agree. It's not important
enough, to enough of the available market, to delay the 1.0 release of
an otherwise valuable product into a market that is starved for _any_
decent offering in the general category of word processing. And WriteUp
is more than decent, IMHO.
By the way, WriteUp has completely certified support for baselines with
EquationBuilder, including real-time Object Links.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to
Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are
Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
From: devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (David Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X, Mosaic, and NeXTDimension
Date: 5 Mar 1994 03:26:30 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2l8u56$9ou@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
I just tried running Mosaic under the co-Xist on my non-turbo NeXTDimension
machine and it is SLOW! Now I know Mosaic is slow in general and I know X is a
pig, but things seem to be more painful than they have to be.
We're having an open-house shortly and I'm planning on doing some Mosaic
demos. I can get DECstations and such to show it on, so that's OK, but for
personal use co-Xist's performance seems pretty sad. Is CubXWindows any
better? Or should I just give up my search for fast X?
I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, but I didn't notice anything there which really
answered my question.
--
David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK)
University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the
Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command."
- Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP3 Server on NeXTSTEP
Date: 5 Mar 1994 03:00:20 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2l8sk4$nvr@rosie.next.com>
References: <1994Mar1.033214.1161@weston.com>
In article <1994Mar1.033214.1161@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
writes:
> Does anyone have a POP3 server running under NeXTSTEP? If so, please tell
> me about it.
I've used both popper and pop3d with good success. There available from
gatekeeper.dec.com and many other well-stocked ftp servers.
91.08.15 00:39 58k pub/mail/ua/misc/popper-1.831beta.tar.Z
93.02.05 21:59 31k pub/mail/ua/pop/pop3d-r6.tar.Z
Cheers,
--Lennart
--
(let ((foo '(nothing can go wrong)))
(rplacd (cdddr foo) (cddr foo))
foo)
From: binger@hanover.edu (David Binger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC on black hardware
Date: 4 Mar 1994 21:38:13 GMT
Organization: Hanover College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2l89o6$h44@news.hanover.edu>
References: <2l5r5e$qqp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Does Turbo Pascal work under SoftPC on black hardware?
David Binger
binger@hanover.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Dynamically allocated IP address for SLIP?
In-Reply-To: tlm@ameslab.gov's message of 3 Mar 1994 02:05:00 GMT
To: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar4144307@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CEDMAN.94Mar1091123@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2l3gkc$9bc@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 19:43:07 GMT
In article <2l3gkc$9bc@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) writes:
I've read of your posts over the years and have always found them extremely
well informed. In fact, I sometimes pick up threads I was ignoring if I see
your name appearing, so imagine my delight to get to "explain" a few things
to you
Thank you, you are too kind ! It is nice to hear that people actually
read ones post and one isn't just posting out into the big black void.
Carl Edman writes
[]But why, o why, o why ? I do not understand why ! There are several
[]billion valid IP addresses and currently there are about 2 million
[]machines on the Internet. Getting a few extra addresses for a few
[]dozen SLIP users per site should be cheap and easy. As for the
well......
There are, in theory, 2^32 IP addresses.
[...]
Thank you for going into detail on this point. Actually, I knew about
the segmentation of IP address space into class A, B and C nets (in
addition to all those reserved special addresses), but I didn't
realize that there was such a crunch in class C networks already.
Maybe I should get one now too. :-)
Anyway, the upshot is that IP#s are becoming a bit of a scarce commodity (I
joked at a recent meeting with Hal Varian, the great economist of NeXT-dom,
that we should speculate in IP# futures :) Class C's (255 numbers) are
still readily available but are being snapped up rapidly as the Internet
grows (your figure of two million machines is off, I *think* by almost an
order of magnitude, largely because of commercial growth and, apparently,
the popularity of Mosaic/WWW).
Are you sure ? I seem to recall that 2 million number from a Matrix
news article only a few months ago placing about half of them in the
US. I knew the net was growing fast, but really _this_ fast ? :-)
I've heard estimates from some of our networking gurus that there
will be no more IP#s to be had in 3-5 years (apparently there are
solutions being discussed, but no one is entirely sure what form
they will take).
Well, there are a number of things which can be done. First of all,
one should consider getting rid of Class A networks. Is there really
any institution on earth which _really_ needs one ? Each freed up
class A address means 255 more class B networks (which should be
enough for almost any large site) or over 60k class C networks (which
should be plenty for every small site). Next, probably the
segmentation of IP address space needs to be reconsidered. 2^24, 2^16
or 2^8 address on one network is nice and simple but incredibly
wasteful. The ability to create networks with any number of bits
should not require too many software changes. Ultimately we probably
need to go to 64-bit IP addresses and I seem to recall some RFCs on
this already. However the mess which the transition will be is enough
to make at least my head spin.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Characterset
In-Reply-To: byer@mv.us.adobe.com's message of Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:53:03 GMT
To: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar4183809@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2l7a6h$14m@email.tuwien.ac.at> <BYER.94Mar4105303@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 23:38:09 GMT
In article <BYER.94Mar4105303@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes:
NEXTSTEP, by default, uses it's own "character encoding",
(/NextStepEncoding). In /systemdict, there is also a pre-defined encoding
(/ISOLatin1Encoding) which is the ISO-8859-1 encoding.
Changing the encoding of a font under Display PostScript is easy.
Unfortunately, neither the font panel nor most applications support it,
and I don't think Terminal supports arbitrary mapping of characters as an
input filter. I think this would be a good feature for someone to
implement, though...
Aha ! Very interesting. Who said that you can't learn anything not
everybody knows already by reading the net ?
This seems like a very useful feature. Unfortunately I assume that
even when you change the font encoding of all used fonts, the
charCodes of all input events would still refer to the codes in
NextStepEncoding, wouldn't they ? So when you entered an accented
character on any of the standard keyboards you'd see something
completely unrelated on the screen when using /ISOLatin1Encoding. Too
bad -- I'm sure the European users would have liked to see this as a
feature of Emacs 19 for NS.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mrothste@worf.acs.calpoly.edu (Mont Rothstein)
Subject: Re: Accounting Software
Message-ID: <1994Mar05.082917.115630@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: /usr/spool/news/organization
References: <1994Mar01.071707.112005@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> <CM1sJy.H4x@agedwards.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 1994 08:29:17 GMT
In article <CM1sJy.H4x@agedwards.com>,
Chris Cleeland <cleelacj@agedwards.com> wrote:
>Mont Rothstein (mrothste@worf.acs.calpoly.edu) wrote:
>
>: The company I work for is getting ready to move to NeXTSTEP!
>
>: I'm interested in what accounting packages are out there, and thoughts
>: and comments on them.
>
>[I post this because there are some questions to the Net contained
> herein.]
>
>Mont,
>
>There are two that I know by name
>
>* CheckSum --- more of a personal financial manager, you still might
> want to check with info@sirius.com about a business-flavored
> app.
>* Fiscal Dimension ----
> This is more of a hard-core ledger thing. My wife liked
> it (she's a CPA) for a business, but not for home. I think
> the address is info@axsys.com
>
>There's another one that I remember hearing about recently that divides
>the interface from the data (clever idea, huh?) and allows different
>people to operate different portions of the package. Distributed Objects
>was used for communications between the data server and the interface
>clients. Does anybody have info on this? I've seen it in c.s.n.announce,
>so maybe it's in one of the summaries stored on the archives. (Scott,
>can you help here?)
>
>Last but not least, congratulations on moving to NeXTStep :-). Does it
>feel good? Maybe you could share your strategies with the Net (over in
>.advocacy, probably)
>
>-cj
>
>--
>==============================================================================
>Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us
>BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com
> | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
Thanks for the info. We haven't decided for sure yet (should know on
Tuesday) but it looks good. As for strategy try a year of badgering
management about how bad the system is (i'm the main programmer), and
it helps to have a really shitty system ('87 DOS non-SQL RDBMS w/ static
indexes that get currupt frequently).
Here's to switching the world to NeXTSTEP one company at a time!
--
-Mont
NeXTmail OK :-)
mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: Re: swapfile woes...
Message-ID: <1994Mar5.055440.8097@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <2l5spc$1tc@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 05:54:40 GMT
In article <2l5spc$1tc@network.ucsd.edu> jamie@mocha.ucsd.edu (James S. Gerber)
writes:
> I am running NSI, and I find that the size of the swapfile never
> decreases, until eventually I need to re-boot to avoid a crash.
> When I run large applications, the size of the application increases.
> Then, when I quit the application and log out, the swapfile does not
> return to a smaller size.
>
> Is there a way to reclaim that diskspace without re-booting?
>
> Thanks,
> jamie
Not really... If you get lucky enough to have pages of vmem get freed that are
at the end of the vswap you might have it decrease...
--
Man, that needle was really
starting to piss me off!
Kevin Solie
--
Man, that needle was really
starting to piss me off!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: Re: VirtSpace - whats the deal?
Message-ID: <1994Mar5.055654.8340@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <samr.762811045@saipan.wri.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 05:56:54 GMT
In article <samr.762811045@saipan.wri.com> samr@wri.com writes:
> I looked at the demo to VirtSpace (2.6), and it seemed
> pretty cool. So i sent them a check for the amount 3-4
> weeks ago, but have not received a password to activate my
> demo copy.
>
> They dont seem to respond to email, although i did get a read
> receipt back.
>
> Are they still in business? Anyone have a phone number to see
> whats up?
>
> Any info is appreciated.
>
> Sam Roseman
> Champaign, IL
Is that a Pinnacle product?
--
Man, that needle was really
starting to piss me off!
Kevin Solie
--
Man, that needle was really
starting to piss me off!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: Re: FAT AppSoft Draw?
Message-ID: <1994Mar5.060005.8680@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <2l5gv6$eo@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 06:00:05 GMT
In article <2l5gv6$eo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus
Wenzel) writes:
> bihr@next.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Tom Bihr) writes:
> >Haveman) writes:
> >> Was there ever a fat version of AppSoft Draw made available?
>
> >You will find the source code in /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Draw on your
> >black next.
>
> I think AppSoft Draw and AppKit Draw isn't quite the same! :-))
>
Yeah, NS Draw works! (oh boy here we go again ;^)
--
Man, that needle was really
starting to piss me off!
Kevin Solie
--
Man, that needle was really
starting to piss me off!
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Characterset
Date: 5 Mar 1994 10:31:13 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2l9n1h$iv4@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2l7a6h$14m@email.tuwien.ac.at> <BYER.94Mar4105303@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <CEDMAN.94Mar4183809@capitalist.princeton.edu>
This is what we call a "small matter of programming."
The hard part isn't doing it, but convincing programmers that it
needs to be done.
-=EPS=-
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fat Appsoft Draw
Date: 5 Mar 1994 13:30:18 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2la1ha$ctd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
The FAT Appsoft Draw included on the 3rd Party Products
disk with NS 3.1 is version 1.03, the infamous. Last
I knew, it destroyed its own files about 95%
of the time. 1.02 did not.
Try it and see.
RKD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: SUBMISSION: BeakerBoy v0.2. Chemistry-visualization
Message-ID: <CM1Ext.8G@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Keywords: chemistry, MiscKit, molecules
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab.
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:34:40 GMT
I finally had the time to compose the first release of my BeakerBoy
project. FAT-binaries were uploaded to the german NeXT archive:
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
BeakerBoy is currently located under next/submissions but it may migrate
to next/Science/chemistry.
The files are: BeakerBoy.0.2.README and BeakerBoy.0.2.NI.bsd.tar.gz
Here is a simple description:
Release 0.2, 25.02.1994 by Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org)
BeakerBoy
Welcome to BeakerBoy a chemistry app which is still under
development. It's main purpose is to provide a flexible visualization
app for molecules and to allow other people to add the tools they
need (via PDO, Bundles, Crud or other APIs.)
Currently it can only view molecules stored in the 'LOOK3D' format
and it does only a few things of what I would like it to do.
I decided to distribute it in this 'alpha-alpha' version to maybe get
some feedback from other programmers/chemist to help me make this app
more intuitive, flexible, useful and to improve the app-concept.
The package includes:
- NeXT-motorola/Intel binaries (just compiled for Intel. Not
really tested but it seems to work. Compiled under NS v3.2)
- A lot of example molecules (LOOK 3D molecules). To reduce
the package size these examples will be in a seperate
bundle in future releases.
- Full source code for the app
- Some nice reusable objects (take a look at the swap / In-
spector stuff) that might find their way into the MiscKit.
Usage:
Just load some of the demo molecules and have fun viewing
them. Each time you doubleclick on the beakers selection you
will get a new camera with the molecule drawn according to
the current settings.
This why you can get different graphics for the same
molecule. To adjust some of the colors, styles etc. just open
the inspector, rotator and atomLibrary and click around as
much as you like.
Current features:
- Load multiple beakers and show them with multiple camera
views for one molecule. The coordinate system is
left-handed (x to the right, y upwards and z into the
screen. The camera is positioned on the negative z axis).
I'm not sure if this is the common orientation ? If not,
please give me a hint.
- Rotate molecules.
- Set different molecule styles and colors.
- Show a nice interface with no function at all...hold on for
a while to see a lot of thing get implemented and improved.
- See the Release Notes too.
The future:
(year included in braces...ever heard of vapourware ?):
(94)
- Grouping and more graphics settings. Different
styles/colors for different groups within a single
molecule.
- Load,save,new,print,...basic stuff.
- Including some WavesWorld objects. The sliders are nice.
- Helppages.
- Multiple molecules inside a single beaker
- Simple stereo-camera
- Molecule construction from basic fragments
(atoms, bonds, mols)
- SpaceMouse (3DMouse) support
- A simple German localization
(95)
- Tools executable on remote machines...HP/Sun/SGI /DEC
servers?
- StructureBoy...a 2D chemistry drawing tool
- Nice clipping planes. Other drawing styles
- Protein building tool
- Energy optimization
- Some possible SCI-Tools additions or APIs.
(99)
- Direkt brain-slot adaptor and other simple extentions
- ...include here what you like. It might get real.
Distribution/Warranty:
Like with every programm you may find on this planet: NO
WARRANTY for what every may happen to your data, computer,
familie life, home or monthly paycheck etc. pp.
Right now the whole project is under Copyleft (GNUpublic
license). But if you do some additions or bug-fixes please
let me know.
Otherwise this is travel-ware. If you like it. Send me a
postcard, e-mail or whatever. Include your address and maybe
I'll come to visit you for a day when I'll do my
US-surf/snowboard trip someday in '94/'95.
(Locations on Hawaii or near Whistler Mt. CAN. prefered :-)
Enjoy it.
Tom
_________________________________________________
(tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel
Neptunstr. 9
NeXTMail welcome 8507 Oberasbach
Germany
--
____________________________________________________
(tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel
Neptunstr. 9
NeXTMail welcome 90522 Oberasbach
From: koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Characterset
Date: 5 Mar 1994 16:53:48 GMT
Organization: mal franz, mal anna
Message-ID: <2lades$3ok@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <2l7a6h$14m@email.tuwien.ac.at> <BYER.94Mar4105303@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <CEDMAN.94Mar4183809@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Cc:
In article <CEDMAN.94Mar4183809@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> (CE>) wrote:
In article <BYER.94Mar4105303@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) (SB>) writes:
SB> NEXTSTEP, by default, uses it's own "character encoding",
SB> (/NextStepEncoding). In /systemdict, there is also a
SB> pre-defined encoding (/ISOLatin1Encoding) which is the
SB> ISO-8859-1 encoding.
SB>
SB> Changing the encoding of a font under Display PostScript is
SB> easy. Unfortunately, neither the font panel nor most
SB> applications support it, and I don't think Terminal supports
SB> arbitrary mapping of characters as an input filter. I think
SB> this would be a good feature for someone to implement,
SB> though...
Could you please explain us how that would be implemented? We would
have to change the binary Outline fontfiles from Adobe, wouldn't we? From my
experiences I have the impression, it's not sufficient to change the
afm-files, is it?
CE> Aha ! Very interesting. Who said that you can't learn
CE> anything not everybody knows already by reading the net ?
CE>
CE> This seems like a very useful feature. Unfortunately I assume
CE> that even when you change the font encoding of all used fonts,
CE> the charCodes of all input events would still refer to the
CE> codes in NextStepEncoding, wouldn't they ?
Look into Keyboard.app. Visit e.g. the USA.keymapping file, highlight
e.g. the NeXT ISO keyboard, and click e.g. the `4' on the shown
keyboard. The smart application shows you the Key Code: 0x4d and the
charcter code: 0x34. Of course you can change the meaning of the key
to, say, 0x35, thusly produce a `5' everytime you hit the key `4'.
What you can't change is the KeyCode, what you may change is the
CharCode. I'd say, if we changed the encoding of all fonts, we would
see 8859-1-Documents as they were designed, both on printer and on
screen.
CE> So when you
CE> entered an accented character on any of the standard keyboards
CE> you'd see something completely unrelated on the screen when
CE> using /ISOLatin1Encoding.
Yes. But we might just do another small job of redefining the
keymappings. Ready to go.
CE> Too bad -- I'm sure the European
CE> users would have liked to see this as a feature of Emacs 19
CE> for NS.
No thanks, I ****like**** emacs-19-NS, but the character and keyboard
encoding are two thingies that should be left to the WindowServer, not
to Applications.
Andreas Kpnig (NeXTencoded), Andreas Kvnig (ISO-8859-1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Re: Touch app
Message-ID: <E6KMB50O@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <2k30d3$5pa@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <1994Feb20.152256.15995@news.csuohio.edu>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 17:01:50 GMT
A.P.Santilli (woden@asgard.csuohio.edu) wrote:
> *** Mark Lin *** (u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw) wrote:
> : Stephen Fitzpatrick (sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk) wrote:
> : : Anybody know of an application called Touch?
> YES! It was also one of my favorite applications...
> I think that Jayson "NewsGrazer" Addams had something to do with
> it. I have a beta version that I was given with 2.1, but alas it
> will not work with version 3.2 I am running now - A great loss :-(
The version shipped on the NeXT edu sampler still
works for me (3.2 NS/m68k)!
Ciao, Stephan
--
trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Pine mail program or filters available for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 5 Mar 1994 21:03:29 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <2las31$lr6@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Does anyone know if a unix mail program called "Pine" has been compiled
for the NeXT and where I might be able to find it? It is supposed to be
Mime compatible for mailing of binary files and will soon be our lab-wide
mail system runnig off a Sun server. Is there any kind of filter
available to convert pine mailed documents to NeXTmail? I guess a filter
would be better than replacing NeXTmail.
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tmoore@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Terry Moore)
Subject: Wringing better performance from SoftPC
Message-ID: <1994Mar5.213825.10916@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Sender: usenet@martha.utcc.utk.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 21:38:25 GMT
Opinions seem to differ about the ability of SoftPC to run DOS and Windows
apps WELL. In my experience, which is pretty limited so far, SoftPC is
pretty slow. I'm running it on a 466/66 with 32M of RAM and 2M of VRAM
with a Wingine graphics card. What's worse, it doesn't seem to allow you
to fool with the config.sys or autoexec.bat in ways that would, on a
normal PC, improve performance, e.g. by loading things into high memory.
Does anybody with more knowledge and experience have any suggestions or
tips for wringing better performance out of the SoftPC emulation?
Terry Moore
tmoore@nightingale.con.utk.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Subject: Running NeXT software
Message-ID: <1994Mar5.162116.14840@ncsu.edu>
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 16:21:16 GMT
I'm having trouble running a bunch of software that I FTPd from various
places. OmniWeb is one, PacMan is another. There are many others.
What happens is this: I double-click on the icon in the File Viewer. A
minute or so later, a TTY-like window pops up and a message gets
displayed. The message is: "[Process exited]"
At first, I thought that maybe I was trying to run executables for Intel
on my 68030 cube, but I know that OmniWeb is Motorola only.
Anybody got any ideas as to what I am doing wrong?
Thanks for all help on this, and with every one of my previous postings!
Daniel / eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu
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From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Re: Look up "gullible" in Webster
Message-ID: <1994Mar4.174912.974@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de
Organization: Westwerk
References: <2kkr6t$9do@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:49:12 GMT
In article <2kkr6t$9do@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi
Ohzawa) writes:
> Wierd thing is that I can't seem to get it to work with Webster on
> Black NS3.2. It seems to work only with Webster on NS/Intel with
> NS3.2 (I don't know if it's in 3.1 NSI). This is not fair. Why
> only NSI owners get the fun. Should I file a bug report?
>
> Or perhaps, NeXT thinks that you are gullible if you are a kind of
> person who buys a 486 PC to run NEXTSTEP. Black hardware owners
> have good judgement and therefore not gullible. That makes sense. :-)
>
>
Hey, we are gullibles, too !!!
Running NS3.1 with black hardware. Webster told us how silly we are !
--
******************************************
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University of Stuttgart
2nd. Dpt. of Theoretical Physics
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
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Fon 0711 / 638360
Fax 0711 / 634696
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University of Stuttgart
2nd. Dpt. of Theoretical Physics
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ksh (not zsh!) for NS ?
Date: 5 Mar 1994 17:12:37 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2lab1l$2vc@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1994Mar2.131908.15610@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
[...ksh instead of zsh wanted...]
>PS: I don't have my free will! A user urges me.
Does a user have the right to urge a sysadmin?
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: GIF to TIFF.
Message-ID: <1994Mar6.021214.5384@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
References: <9403031801.AA23298@_rat.se>
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 02:12:14 GMT
In article <9403031801.AA23298@_rat.se>, Erik Heimdahl <erik@rat.se> wrote:
>
> If anybody out there has got a PD or SW GIF to TIFF converter that's
> got a litte more juice than ViewGif 3.0.2 (I keep getting "This Type
> Of GIF Currently Not Supported"), PLEASE mail it to me.
> I have _A BUNCH_ of computer rendered pictures that I can't view on
> my NeXT.
Try McFilter 2.0. I just submitted it to the archives. You should also
see the announcement in comp.sys.next.announce. Also, ImageViewer is
quite robust as well, although I like the gamma corrected output of
McFilter better -- otherwise I wouldn't have written it. %^)
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bryan@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Bryan Van Norden)
Subject: Chinese text processing
Message-ID: <1994Mar6.054826.27067@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: CSLI, Stanford University
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 05:48:26 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with Chinese text processing
and printing on a NeXT? Are there any commercial packages available? If
not, what is the easiest way to construct my own package?
I am not a regular reader of this group, so I would appreciate
people sending me a copy of any postings they submit on
this topic.
Thanks,
Bryan
--
Bryan William Van Norden
"Submit to Barney!"
4426 Butterfield Road
Cedar Falls, Iowa 50613-9634
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wringing better performance from SoftPC
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 02:56:24 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <hy7oXPA.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <1994Mar5.213825.10916@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Terry:
Ensure that there are no overlapping windows(any portion) on the SoftPC
Window( or NS windows underneath. This will really slow things down, I think.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low)
Subject: Xwindows for NS availability ?
Message-ID: <boonlow.762941844@sfu.ca>
Sender: news@sfu.ca (seymour news)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 08:17:24 GMT
*
Hey guys,
Any idea where I can get X-windows for NeXTSTEP for Intel ?
I downloaded X11R5-MouseX and realize that it's for black hardware only. ;-(
Need it desparately to finish some stats analysis which needs Xwin...
Thanks alot,
Ben.
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Pine mail program or filters available for NEXTSTEP?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 6 Mar 1994 14:03:30 GMT
Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!)
Message-ID: <2lcnri$ae0@news.intercon.com>
References: <2las31$lr6@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Mark Powell (powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov) wrote:
: Does anyone know if a unix mail program called "Pine" has been compiled
: for the NeXT and where I might be able to find it?
Yes it has. Try:
ftp.uu.net:/networking/mail/pine
If you have any trouble compiling, email me. I can always send you a binary.
David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: Source Code Control System
In-Reply-To: markl@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de's message of 3 Mar 1994 11:07:04 GMT
Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Mar6084101@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <2l4gco$pk4@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:41:01 GMT
>>>>> On 3 Mar 1994 11:07:04 GMT, markl@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Albert Markl) said:
In article <2l4gco$pk4@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> markl@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Albert Markl) writes:
> Hi Everybody!
> Does anybody have experience with SCCS, RCS or similar on a Next?
> We are doing program development at two different sites 150 miles
> apart on some rather large packet for trajectory optimization. This
> includes an X11 graphical user interface (no NextStep, alas)
Check out CVS from prep.ai.mit.edu and its clones. For
geographically dispersed sites, check out remote-CVS from us at
ftp.slac.stanford.edu in directory pub/sources.
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PINE mailer problems (maybe?)
Date: 6 Mar 1994 17:53:19 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ld5af$d2l@inxs.concert.net>
We just brought PINE up...know when we send mail through PINE, we get bounce
messages:
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 12:50:34 -0500
From: NeXT Mail Agent <Mailer-Agent@barkley>
To: info@barkley
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 no local yp domain
We are not bouncing from NeXTmail and the mail we send through PINE is being
delivered.
Anybody have any solutions?
Dave
--
Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice]
A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax]
NeXTMail/MIME Mail Welcomed info@paradigm-shift.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.misc
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: 2 IDE's, 1 SCSI- HOW???
Message-ID: <CM9FKL.E8F@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:29:08 GMT
I have NS/I installed on the first IDE of a PC. This drive is partitioned
into a 10meg DOS unit and a 330meg NS partition. The other IDE hard drive
is DOS (340meg's). I recently added a 1gig SCSI drive and I've had nothing
but hassles. The SCSI drive is currently formatted as a NS only drive, as I
can't partition it and that's ok anyway. But, I am unable to create any
user accounts on the drive! If I do then they lose their ownership and
group identities. Is there a trick here? I'd like to have all users with
their accounts on the SCSI drive but have the NS system on the first IDE
drive where I can decide into which OS I wish to boot.
This is a 4th request. Perhaps this is a simple matter, but it sure doesn't
seem that way to me! I have read the installing NS to a SCSI when there is
an IDE drive document (1487_Booting_From_An ...) in Nextanswers. Incidentally,
if I move myself to the hard drive then it becomes damaged, and I then have
to repair it.
Please reply via e-mail, if possible. The SCSI drive is a Seagate31200N if
that's an issue.
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: ccwf@goethe.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GNU tar 1.11.2, long file names
Date: 7 Mar 1994 03:09:59 GMT
Organization: FTL Enterprises, Inc.
Message-ID: <2le5u7$3q8@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <HUGH.94Feb21103433@hodain.ci.net>
In article <HUGH.94Feb21103433@hodain.ci.net>,
Hugh Secker-Walker <hugh@ear.mit.edu> wrote:
>I had been using GNU tar 1.11.1 which I compiled under NS 3.0 (maybe
>3.1). Unfortunately this version doesn't preserve directory
>ownerships on extractions done by root.
As has been pointed out by others, NeXT's gnutar is version 1.11.2, but I
have still had occasional permission problems with it when extracting files
as root (sometimes fails to restore ownerships and file permissions on
everything in an extracted subdirectory). I did not experience these
problems after compiling GNU's source myself, so I suspect either there is
a random pointer problem with GNU's tar which shows up occasionally or NeXT
goofed. I consider the first more probable.
Unfortunately, I did not have time to track down this problem. If anyone
cares, it happens reproducibly on a subdirectory near the end of a certain
compressed tar file I was working with (about 100M in size, had long
pathnames--contains proprietary data) with some but not all NS/FIP hardware
configurations.
,--
___ __ __. . ,-/--
(_,(_,|/|/ /
--'
From: ccwf@goethe.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: swapfile woes...
Date: 7 Mar 1994 03:35:21 GMT
Organization: FTL Enterprises, Inc.
Message-ID: <2le7dp$4n9@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2l5spc$1tc@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: swapfile
In article <2l5spc$1tc@network.ucsd.edu>,
James S. Gerber <jamie@mocha.ucsd.edu> wrote:
[ Usual swapfile complaint. ]
>
>Is there a way to reclaim that diskspace without re-booting?
You might be able to get some back by restarting the window server (log in
as "exit"). Not running more apps than you need helps a bit. That's about
it, though.
,--
___ __ __. . ,-/--
(_,(_,|/|/ /
--'
From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with NeXTTeX (SUMMARY)
Date: 6 Mar 1994 19:45:05 -0800
Message-ID: <2le801$9eb@potrzebie.ee.pdx.edu>
References: <2kjuu6$p1e@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
Keywords: NeXTTeX
As promised, this is the summary of the responses that I received by e-mail
regarding the problem with NeXTTeX. After having the automatic font generating
feature button selected (in NeXTeX Preference), I now can generate postscript
files and send them to print with LaserJet III with no problem.
Thank you again for everyone who replied to my original post.
Sincerely yours,
Pitak
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original article:
>Hi,
>I am writing a paper with NeXTTeX and having problem printing out a postscript
>output on a Laserjet III with postscript cartridge installed. My machine is
>running NS/FIP v 3.2 and not connected to the printer.
>I used TeXview app. to view the dvi file, it looks fine. After I used dvips
>to convert the dvi file to a postscript file then view with Preview.app, I
>noticed that the postscript output looks much worse than the dvi output.
>There is a noticeable reduction in resolution of the postscript output.
>This is probably due to the resolution of the monitor, I thought, so I sent
>the ps file to the Laserjet III at school. That didn't solve the problem,
>it still looks ugly. The resolution of the hardcopy is much less than the dvi
>output that I viewed with TeXview.
>Finally, I took my latex code to a Sun machine at school and compiled
>then printed it there. It looks great.
>What modifications do I need to do in order to make NeXTTeX works right ?
>Any info will be greatly appreciated. I will post a summary of the responses to
>this newsgroup.
>Regards,
>Pitak
********************************************************************************
Begin summary:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: David M. Wood <dmwood@othello.Mines.Colorado.EDU>
Message-Id: <9402250550.AA00615@othello.Mines.Colorado.EDU>
To: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu
Subject: Problem with NeXTTeX
Status: RO
I'm not sure this is the problem, but do you have the option
for TeXview [Info->Preferences] Generate fonts as needed set? --If
you don't, TeXview will simply scale **existing** pk fonts to the size
needed for the document, and things may look marginal on the screen
and terrible when printed. If you **do** set the option generate fonts
as needed, there will be a moderate delay while the required pk fonts
are generated, but things will look as they ought. [If you check
Generate scripts to make fonts, as I recollect, you need to run NeededFonts
[via sh NeededFonts] in /LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/pk.
Good luck.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: (Robert Frank) frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Dvips uses the resolution of the destination printer and then creates a
bitmap of the fonts used. For the NeXT (black hardware) this is usually set
to 400dpi - and will have to be scaled down to 300 or up to 600dpi
depending on what the printer actually has.
So before starting dvips you must set the appropriate resolution. See the
manpage on dvips for full information.
-Robert
--
Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67
Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: antoine@osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
You may want to get the latest dvips and texview from labrea.stanford.edu, this
solved other problems for me. G'luck!
--
+-------------------------------------------------------+
| Antoine Gautier |
| Departement OSD, FSA |
| Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ |
| Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca |
+-------------------------------------------------------+
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From: "Charles D. Kincaid" <statman@apeiron.ufstat.ufl.edu>
Message-Id: <9402251435.AA04261@apeiron.ufstat.ufl.edu>
Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95)
Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95)
To: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Subject: Re: Problem with NeXTTeX
Reply-To: statman@stat.ufl.edu
Status: RO
Hello,
In comp.sys.next.software article <2kjuu6$p1e@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu> you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am writing a paper with NeXTTeX and having problem printing out a
postscript
> output on a Laserjet III with postscript cartridge installed. My machine is
> running NS/FIP v 3.2 and not connected to the printer.
>
Is the Laserjet known to Netinfo? Do you have the printcap loaded? I
would recommend this if at all possible. It's pretty easy and then you can do
what's below...
> I used TeXview app. to view the dvi file, it looks fine. After I used dvips
> to convert the dvi file to a postscript file then view with Preview.app, I
You shouldn't really have to do the conversion with dvips like this.
If you have the Laserjet known to NetInfo, then you can print straight from the
TeXView print panel to the Laserjet. This is what I do.
If you have any further questions about this, feel free to e-mail me.
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: eric@skatter.usask.ca (Eric Norum)
This is probably your zillionth reply, but anyhow........
pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol):
> Hi,
>
> I am writing a paper with NeXTTeX and having problem printing out a postscript
> output on a Laserjet III with postscript cartridge installed. My machine is
> running NS/FIP v 3.2 and not connected to the printer.
>
> I used TeXview app. to view the dvi file, it looks fine. After I used dvips
^^^^^
What printer resolution did you specify when you did the dvi->ps conversion?
If your printer doesn't match this value, you'll get *ugly* results.
I think the default value (see /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps for details) is
set for 400 dpi. You can override this by using the -D option when
you invoke dvips.
Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca
Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory
University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Thomas H Pulliam <pulliam@rft29.nas.nasa.gov>
When you print out of TeXView choose Costom Resolution 300 on the print panel.
The conversion from TexFonts for the NeXT printer and oher printers is the problem.
--
Thomas H. Pulliam
MS T27B-1 NASA Ames Research Center
Moffett Field, Ca 94035
(415) 604-6417
pulliam@rft29.nas.nasa.gov
pulliam@nas.nasa.gov
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Dr. T. L. Marchioro II <tlm@ameslab.gov>
It sounds as if you do not have the automatic font generating
feature turned on. The fonts which you see in TeXview (the
ones that look fine) are BITMAPS specifically designed for the
screen. When you go to print you need to make bitmaps
designed for the printer at the specific DPI that the printer
uses, otherwise the printer will have to alias everything and
the text will look "jagged." (It's not that the resolution is
LOWER, it may even be higher, but that it's IMPROPER for the
device that makes things look bad. That is also why the
version for printing looks so bad when you preview it, you are
looking at 300 or 400 dpi fonts on a 72 dpi screen. The
mismatch makes everything look bad).
To get things to work:
1) Launch TeXview. Got to the Info/Preferences panel and
click on the "Generate Fonts as needed" button. That will get
TeXview to make fonts dynamically. It will slow down printing
at first while TeXview has to make the fonts, but once the
fonts are made they never need be made again, so after
printing a few documents you will be back at full speed.
2) Set the default resolution for TeXview printing to be that
for your default printer, whether that be 300, 400, or 600
dpi. You can look in the NeXT-TeX manual to figure this out.
If you are going to be printing to several printers with
different resolutions then you should set up separate
configurations for each. I do not remember how to do this off
the top of my head (I switched to Postscript TeX fonts some
time ago, so none of these issues arise for me :) but could
help you figure it out if you want.
Hope this is helpful --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical
physicist
Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Geoffrey Matthews <matthews@skipjack.cs.wwu.edu>
This is what I had sent to me, and it worked for my
HP4M, which is 600 dpi. Since yours is probably 300,
and Next expects 400, make appropriate changes below.
----
Here's what posted some time ago:
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Subject: Re: dvips at 600 dpi (the solution)
Date: 12 Apr 1993 20:16:35 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Here are the changes I made to support a 600 dpi printer for use with TeX.
(This assumes that the printer has already been set up for use--this only
affects the automatic font generation.) The printer happens to be a QMS
1700 (17 pages per minute), hence the name "qmsfast". I print from
TeXview and select 600 dpi in the print panel (the resolution pull-down--
not the custom resolution). This automagically uses the -D 600 option
for dvips. I did not change /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps, which has the
default dpi of 400 (the line "D 400"), because I still use the NeXT 400
dpi printer. However, if your only printer is 600 dpi, then you might
want to change the 400 to 600.
Thanks to Tom Marchioro for telling me how to do this and Tomas Rokicki
for suggesting the proper Metafont parameters.
The changes:
1. Prepare to edit next.mf:
cd /usr/lib/mf/inputs
su
cp -p next.mf next.mf.old
chown me next.mf
chmod g+w .
^D
openfile next.mf
2. In next.mf, copy the nexthi mode_def, change the name to qmsfast, and
change the pixels_per_inch to 600 (mode_def names can't have digits in
them!):
mode_def qmsfast = % QMS 1700 mode: for 600 dpi
proofing:=0; % no, we're not making proofs
fontmaking:=1; % yes, we are making a font
tracingtitles:=0; % no, don't show titles in the log
pixels_per_inch:=600;
blacker:=0; % Canon engine is black enough
fillin:=.2; % and it tends to fill in diagonals
o_correction:=.6; %
enddef;
3. Run inimf and replace mf.base:
cd /usr/lib/mf/inputs
su
inimf "plain; input next; dump"
rm plain.log
cd ../bases
mv mf.base mf.base.old
mv ../plain.base mf.base
^D
4. Clean up:
cd /usr/lib/mf
su
chmod g-w inputs
chown root inputs/next.mf
^D
5. Prepare to edit MakeTeXPK:
cd /usr/bin
su
chmod g+w .
cp -p MakeTeXPK MakeTeXPK.old
^D
openfile MakeTeXPK
6. Edit MakeTeXPK to use the new mode_def--add right after "MODE=linosuper"
and right before "else":
elif test $BDPI = 600
then
MODE=qmsfast
7. Clean up:
su
chown root MakeTeXPK
chmod g-w
^D
You're all set!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: Tom Kunkle <kunkle@harry.cofc.edu>
Dear Pitak:
We have three Nexts networked togther and share one
printer in my department at
the College of Charelston, so it seems
like the optimal solution would be to get your
machine permisison to print on the sun's laserprinter.
That way, when you hit the print button from the TeXView
menu, it'll come out at the Sun automatically.
(If your NeXT is a personal machine at home, connected
only by a modem, I could see where getting that permission
would be a problem) I'm not an expert on how to do that,
but we did manage to set permissions for our NeXTs
successfully. I can tell you how that was done, if you
think it would be helpful.
In case that solution is impractical, why not take your
.dvi file to school, instead of your .ps file? If this
Sun has latex, it seems like you should be ablt to reach
a printable version from that? That would at least save
you a little of the compilation you're doing now at the Sun.
tom kunkle
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: mzeller@gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
Try the -D flag for resolution in dvips. I guess -D300 should work.
There might be a prefernce setting in TeXview.
Hope this helps
Meinrad
--
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Foehrenweg 1
D-37077 Goettingen
Tel.: +49-551-300095
Email: mzeller@gwdg.de
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
********************************************************************************
End of summary.
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems of PS files from dvips
Date: 7 Mar 1994 03:41:29 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2le7p9$r8l@news.iastate.edu>
References: <1994Mar3.180928.28871@aplki.toppoint.de>
Andreas Ploeger writes
[]In article <2kt18d$isk@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
[]writes:
[]> If I get a chance I will download the Tailor demo and
[]> see if the PS versions of the TeX fonts work with it.
[]
[]In the newest version of Tailor they should.
[]
[]My only problem were special symbols like the bullets generated by
'\itemize'.
[]They don't appear as PS fonts in the dvips output but as TeX fonts.
[]
[]Did anybody solve this?
Actually, I downloaded Tailor and ran it in Demo mode. Seems quite the
cool program, but it could not handle either the BSR Computer Modern fonts
or a LucidaBright fonts. I'm not sure why since I know the people who put
these together and they are genuine Type 1, TrueType compatible, etc.
fonts.
All that Tailor says is:
Error:invalidfont; Offending Command: awidthshow
I'll drop the developers a note and see if we can get anywhere with this.
Since I could not image ANYTHING I obviously have no comment on whether or
not the bullets came out right (and yes, I checked and there are no bullets
in the .ps files I looked at).
Oh well......
TLM
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: IPT uShare still around?
Message-ID: <1994Mar6.221321.12358@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994Mar2.133814.22136@xexos.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:13:21 GMT
In article <1994Mar2.133814.22136@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark
Chamberlain) writes:
> I'm trying to get hold of the IPT guys, they make uShare, the product
that
> connects Macs to NeXTs in a reasonable way. They don't respond to email,
does
> anyone out there have their real contact details?
I understand that the people in the office just down the road from you are
their UK distributor. The information came from the distributor involved,
so could be inaccurate.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dynamically allocated IP address for SLIP?
Date: 7 Mar 1994 03:57:05 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2le8mh$rhu@news.iastate.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Mar4144307@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Carl Edman writes
[]In article <2l3gkc$9bc@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
writes:
[] I've read of your posts over the years and have always found them
extremely
[] well informed. In fact, I sometimes pick up threads I was ignoring if
I see
[] your name appearing, so imagine my delight to get to "explain" a few
things
[] to you
[]
[]Thank you, you are too kind ! It is nice to hear that people actually
[]read ones post and one isn't just posting out into the big black void.
[]
uhhh....gee Carl..... seemed like a great opportunity to return the
compliment to me, but NOOOOOO, I get some line comparing me to a black
void..... :)
[] Carl Edman writes
[] []But why, o why, o why ? I do not understand why ! There are
several
[] []billion valid IP addresses and currently there are about 2 million
[] []machines on the Internet. Getting a few extra addresses for a few
[] []dozen SLIP users per site should be cheap and easy. As for the
[]
[] well......
[]
[] There are, in theory, 2^32 IP addresses.
[]
[] [...]
[]
[]Thank you for going into detail on this point. Actually, I knew about
[]the segmentation of IP address space into class A, B and C nets (in
[]addition to all those reserved special addresses), but I didn't
[]realize that there was such a crunch in class C networks already.
[]Maybe I should get one now too. :-)
[]
[] Anyway, the upshot is that IP#s are becoming a bit of a scarce
commodity (I
[] joked at a recent meeting with Hal Varian, the great economist of
NeXT-dom,
[] that we should speculate in IP# futures :) Class C's (255 numbers)
are
[] still readily available but are being snapped up rapidly as the
Internet
[] grows (your figure of two million machines is off, I *think* by almost
an
[] order of magnitude, largely because of commercial growth and,
apparently,
[] the popularity of Mosaic/WWW).
[]
[]Are you sure ? I seem to recall that 2 million number from a Matrix
[]news article only a few months ago placing about half of them in the
[]US. I knew the net was growing fast, but really _this_ fast ? :-)
[]
Well, I have to admit I made some "reasonable guesstimates" when I did that
post, so I went to my local "source", one of the Computational Scientists
here who does a lot of work for the DOE and, among other things, serves on
a few of their "networking panels" (he's also in charge of networking for
Supercomputing '94) and asked for some more exact numbers. Seems you
probably underestimated, and I overestimated. He says the two million
figure is from last summer, and hence it's completely out of date.
Similarly, the 20 million number you often read about # of people on the
net is also outdated. This latter is more obvious since the same articles
often speak of 100K people being added per week worldwide, so obviously the
millions change pretty fast on the time scale of getting something
published and distributed. Steve's best guess is that there are now 4-5
million *computers* on the internet. There are many more IP#s in active
use since, for example, we have two printers in our little division alone
that have their own IP#s, and there are, to go back to the roots of this
thread, a certain # of SLIP connections out there. His general sense of
things is that the net is growing fast enough, and things are hard enough
to define one way or another, that no estimates on this are partiuclarly
accurate, but that the # of CPU's on the net was almost certainly under 5
million and growing much more slowly than users (no surprise).
[] I've heard estimates from some of our networking gurus that there
[] will be no more IP#s to be had in 3-5 years (apparently there are
[] solutions being discussed, but no one is entirely sure what form
[] they will take).
[]
He did reiterate this point, although it is possible people are being too
alarmist about the time line as an over-reaction to how the growth in the
net caught up with them (apparently 5 years ago they estimated it would
take > 20 years, 3 years ago it was > 10 years, last year it was 6 years,
etc. to the point that now the most wildly extravagant estimate is the one
everyone takes. Isn't this what the CIA did with the Russian economy? :)
[]Well, there are a number of things which can be done. First of all,
[]one should consider getting rid of Class A networks. Is there really
[]any institution on earth which _really_ needs one ? Each freed up
[]class A address means 255 more class B networks (which should be
[]enough for almost any large site) or over 60k class C networks (which
[]should be plenty for every small site). Next, probably the
[]segmentation of IP address space needs to be reconsidered. 2^24, 2^16
[]or 2^8 address on one network is nice and simple but incredibly
[]wasteful. The ability to create networks with any number of bits
[]should not require too many software changes. Ultimately we probably
[]need to go to 64-bit IP addresses and I seem to recall some RFCs on
[]this already. However the mess which the transition will be is enough
[]to make at least my head spin.
You're essentially right. The "holdover" plan is to take unused space from
various class A and B networks and divide it out to others. Of course, that
means you have to download special instructions to all the routers, and
routing tables are already a real mess. I suspect a few mail messages will
go undelivered in the process....
Clearly the real culprit is not the 2^8 class C licenses, but that the next
steps up are 2^8 and 2^16 bigger, a division that essentially treats
addresses as free goods. It doesn't sound like this is going to change,
but rather that they are going to go to "big IP #s" (which I think means
2^64 numbers) somewhere down the line. Of course, if the divisions remain
the same and 99.99% of the numbers still go unused then we'll just be back
in the same boat somehwere down the line.
Best --- Tom
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From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good Word Processor for NS/i?
Date: 7 Mar 1994 04:12:15 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2le9iv$lod@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <schwettCM9sCu.M9A@netcom.com>
In article <schwettCM9sCu.M9A@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com (Mark
Schwettmann) writes:
> After muddling with NS/i for a week or so, I've decided that I want to
> switch to it exclusively.
>
> And I DONT want to rely on emulation.
>
> My first need then [...] is for a good solid, feature rich word
> processor.
WriteUp just started shipping (as of last week?). Last week, Pages told
me on the phone that they would be shipping in two weeks. I haven't
called them this week. I don't know whether these two products meet your
requirement of "feature rich", but they are all there is at the moment.
Oh, I also believe you can get an old version of WordPerfect. WordPerfect
used to sell in MAB form for Intel & Motorolla, but I believe it is no
longer supported.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 6 Mar 1994 23:09:00 -0500
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ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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From: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul Tognato-Haddad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Contact Info for Pinnacle Research
Date: 7 Mar 1994 04:22:56 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lea70$a62@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Howdy,
For all those still trying to contact Pinnacle.
Pinnacle Research Contact Info:
Phone: (519) 746-6944
Fax: (519) 746-8590
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# Paul R. Tognato-Haddad
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OxfordQuotations
Date: 7 Mar 1994 00:10:52 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ldrec$n8i@news.iastate.edu>
I just found out that I lost my /NextLibrary/References/OxfordQuotations
directory when I upgraded. I've still got the app, but it can't do much
without the OxfordQuotations directory. Could someone send it too me.
Give me a warning before you send though. Thanks.
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good Word Processor for NS/i?
Date: 7 Mar 1994 04:48:13 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lebme$ovr@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2le9iv$lod@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2le9iv$lod@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd
Takken) writes:
> WriteUp just started shipping (as of last week?). Last week, Pages told
> me on the phone that they would be shipping in two weeks. I haven't
> called them this week. I don't know whether these two products meet your
> requirement of "feature rich", but they are all there is at the moment.
> Oh, I also believe you can get an old version of WordPerfect. WordPerfect
> used to sell in MAB form for Intel & Motorolla, but I believe it is no
> longer supported.
>
WordPerfect is to be supported through January 1995...you are not entirely in
bad shape if you buy it (you cannot import WP 6.x files, nor can you import
tabling features and some other graphical features found in 5.x either)...Pages
may ship in two weeks however most users will find (and it is not their intent)
that Pages will hardly be usable as any kind of text processor.
Dave
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From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: Good Word Processor for NS/i?
Message-ID: <schwettCM9sCu.M9A@netcom.com>
Summary: Looking for a good Word Processor!
Keywords: word processor ns/i
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:05:17 GMT
Hiya!
After muddling with NS/i for a week or so, I've decided that I want to
switch to it exclusively.
And I DONT want to rely on emulation.
My first need then, after communications, which is filled nicely by several
freeware/shareware applications, is for a good solid, feature rich word
processor. I am used to using Lotus' Ami Pro for Windows, which is really
very very nice, but of course isn't available for NeXTStep.
And suggestions, anyone?
Thanks in advance,
Mark Schwettmann
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good Word Processor for NS/i?
Date: 7 Mar 1994 01:38:00 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2le0ho$ld1@inxs.concert.net>
References: <schwettCM9sCu.M9A@netcom.com>
In article <schwettCM9sCu.M9A@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
writes:
>
> And suggestions, anyone?
>
WriteUp is the only choice...unless you want to bank on WordPerfect getting
back into their UNIX platforms.
Dave
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From: kickaha@math.lsa.umich.edu (Brian Boonstra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Statistical software - SAS, SPSS etc?
Date: 7 Mar 1994 01:45:29 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2le0vpINNn9n@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Summary: What's out there?
Keywords: statistics
My wife and I will be spending a semester in Paris next fall, and she
needs to do her research on my NeXT. She does demography, so that
means statistical manipulation of a HUGE data file distilled from the
'90 census.
What stat packages are out there for the NeXT? Are they
stable? I'm specifically interested in SPSS and SAS, but I'd like to
know about others, too. Thanks.
--
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"My strength is as the strength of ten because my code is pure."
From: ccwf@goethe.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Date: 7 Mar 1994 02:31:09 GMT
Organization: FTL Enterprises, Inc.
Message-ID: <2le3ld$2m3@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp> <1994Feb3.164658.1592@afs.com>
In article <1994Feb3.164658.1592@afs.com>,
Gregory H. Anderson <Greg_Anderson@afs.com> wrote:
>Why stop with the Delete key? What about Insert and Home and End and
>PageUp and PageDown and all the function keys on Intel keyboards?
>Why can't you jump by the word or paragraph? Why doesn't the Intel key
>labeled "PrintScrn" bring up the Print Panel? Why isn't there a meta-key
>for the missing cursor control keys on black keyboards? Why is the mouse
>required to select text, even as small as one character? Why can't you
>select text from the keyboard by using the Shift key, like every geeky
>DOS and Windows program in existence?
If you enable Emacs bindings, then you can do
Delete ^D
Insert sorry, out of luck here
Home Alt-<
End Alt->
PageUp Alt-V
PageDown ^V
Word Forward Alt-F
Word Backword Alt-B
Paragraph F/B nope
PrintScrn Cmd-P
Others nope
If you _really_ wanted to, you could create a custom keymapping for use with
Edit to map the above keys to the appropriate keys on the numberpad.
Then again, why not just use emacs or vi unless you're editing RTF?
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
Date: 7 Mar 94 07:34:00 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.763025640@uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp> <1994Feb3.164658.1592@afs.com> <2le3ld$2m3@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Charles Fu writes:
>If you enable Emacs bindings, then you can do
I think one reason for choosing keylabel alternatives is that
newcomers will probably have an easier time getting used to a key that
does as it is labeled (page up actually does
alt+click-on-up-scroll-button and so on) instead of learning some new
relatively arcane scheme (emacs).
> Insert sorry, out of luck here
I think you can use Alt-y for "yank" after you "kill" something with
Alt-k. Perhaps this works with a simple delete too, but I never use
it for that.
>Then again, why not just use emacs or vi unless you're editing RTF?
I think it's a good thing not to have to go to the terminal if one is
already comfortable with GUI-based solutions. I wish it could be that
one never needs to learn Unix or deal with a terminal window at all
with NS (oh well). I think it's part of the challenge to make NS GUI
apps that are powerful like Unix CLI apps are but also feature
intuitive interfaces that can are easily navigable by beginners and
experts alike.
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From: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk (Geoff Hopson)
Subject: Naive DBModeller question
Message-ID: <1994Mar7.110226.27752@zoo.bt.co.uk>
Keywords: DBModeller DBKit Oracle
Sender: news@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Laboratories, Ipswich, UK.
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 11:02:26 GMT
I hope the Net can help again.
I have just started playing with DBKit and DBModeller. I am running NS 3.2 on
a PC as an NFS client off a Sun SparcStation, and want to use Oracle, which
is up and running off another Sparc on the network (ie not the NFS name
server). I have copied across the OracleDemo DBModel into
~/Library/Databases, and am able to knock up a quick database demo using the
good old scott/tiger demo database. I now want to access a different
database, and so tried to run DBModeller to build up the data model. However,
when I attempt to "choose entities", the returned browser is blank! This is
the case against the scott/tiger database too.
Why does an existing DBModel (OracleDemo) work, when I cannot contruct a
DBModel from scratch?
Thanks in advance,
Geoff
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From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: Re: Good Word Processor for NS/i?
Message-ID: <schwettCMAKnE.2n9@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2le9iv$lod@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <2lebme$ovr@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:16:26 GMT
Dave writes : "most users will find ... that Pages will hardly be usable
as any kind of text processor."
Hmm... exactly what is it then? More of a desktop publisher I assume? I
very much enjoyed Ami Pro's "document processing" approach, which placed it
somewhere between Word Processor and Desktop Publisher.
Where could I get more information on either Pages or WriteUp?
Also, has anyone out there used the NeXTStep/i version of WordPerfect?
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Re: Fat Appsoft Draw
Message-ID: <CMAnBz.362@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
References: <2la1ha$ctd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:14:23 GMT
In article <2la1ha$ctd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea
Brooks) writes:
> The FAT Appsoft Draw included on the 3rd Party Products
> disk with NS 3.1 is version 1.03, the infamous. Last
> I knew, it destroyed its own files about 95%
> of the time. 1.02 did not.
>
> Try it and see.
>
> RKD
>
In article <???> others write: similarly negative comments...
Yikes, not exactly raving reviews....
Thanks for pointing out its existence.
Cheers - Jon
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: RenderMan/Pentium needed...
Message-ID: <1994Mar4.080119.2934@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 08:01:19 GMT
Hi folks. I'm trying to do a little benchmarking in preparation for
an animation I'm gearing up for. I have RenderMan installed on old black
hardware (both turbo and non) and on all the various workstations
that prman runs on (sparc, sgi, hp, dec, ibm). I'm running some
timing tests to get a rough estimate of relative speeds of rendering
large (10 to 30 minutes) jobs. The one kind of machine I don't have
though is a Pentium box running NS. We have some white hardware
(a variety; mainly Intel GX I think), so I have the basic 486 covered,
but I'm looking for someone with ftp access (or a >2MB NeXTMail box)
that would be willing to render a few pictures with some rib files
and shaders that I provide. I would also want some assurrance that
the rib files and shaders would be destroyed (or at least not shared)
after the testing.
e-mail, please. Be assured that I'll post the results when I'm through.
Thus far an HP/750 and an Indigo^2 are neck-and-neck (15 minutes), while
an HP/755 is almost twice as fast (8 minutes). I'll probably do some
others this weekend.
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--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Subject: Eudora and NeXTmail
Message-ID: <1994Mar7.144704.19978@ornl.gov>
Keywords: Eudora
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:47:04 GMT
Would some kind soul please clue me in about the capabilities and
limitations of the mail program "Eudora" for DOS/Windows and the Mac? Can
formatted files (e.g., WordPerfect documents) attached to NeXTmail
messages be received and read by people who use Eudora, and vice versa?
Jim
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HD icon becoming FOLDER icon
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 09:25:38 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2972135802.0.p00378@psilink.com>
Recently I experienced a bit of strange behavior on my NeXT. I have
two external drives mounted on my system. One of them is a boot drive (0.5GB)
and it and it's icon works fine. Meaning, the drive is icnofied using
the harddisk platter graphic. However, the other mounted drive (1.2GB)
does not display the harddisk platter graphic for an icon. It displays
the FOLDER graphic for an icon. When I originally mounted the drive
everything was OK. The problem seems to have started when one of the
new programmers decided to clean up some files and apparently either
changed or deleted the icon associated with the device.
How can I change this back to the harddisk platter icon? Where is the
file that controls the icon display for any device or application? I
thank all respondents in advance.
Peace,
James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: multi - user drawing program on archive server
Message-ID: <1994Mar7.122657.994@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:26:57 GMT
There is a new copy of FSGreyBoard that has been uploaded to cs.orst.edu.
It is a FAT binary multi user drawing program based on DO.
There are also a couple of other small utilities that use the same server.
The package was uploaded into pub/next/submissions last week as
FSGroupWare-???.tar
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
From: guest@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: swapfile woes...
Date: 7 Mar 1994 16:43:54 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lflka$rtc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2le7dp$4n9@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Keywords: NeXT, NeXTdimension
In article <2le7dp$4n9@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ccwf@goethe.klab.caltech.edu
(Charles Fu) writes:
> In article <2l5spc$1tc@network.ucsd.edu>,
> James S. Gerber <jamie@mocha.ucsd.edu> wrote:
> [ Usual swapfile complaint. ]
> >
> >Is there a way to reclaim that diskspace without re-booting?
>
> You might be able to get some back by restarting the window server (log
in
> as "exit"). Not running more apps than you need helps a bit. That's
about
> it, though.
I've been wondering...the swapfile problem becomes egregious with a
NeXTdimension. I regularly reboot once my availalbe disk space is gone,
say 2-4 times a day. (I do lots of graphics, 3D and dtp, and big 32-bit
temp files slurp up space for breakfast.) Now, is this harmful to my
(irreplacable ) system? I know turning the NeXT printer on and off can't
be very good for it, but what about the rest of the system? I'm running a
single-headed Turbo ND with 32MB on the motherboard and 20MB on the ND.
Thanks. My news access has been real flaky lately, so e-mail me and i'll
summarize. (If you're willing to let me include your responses in the next
version of the "NeXTdimension Compendium", let me know.)
Steve Weintz
EthnoGraphics
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca
Subject: Re: POP3 Server on NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Mar7.170631.11127@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <1994Mar1.033214.1161@weston.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 17:06:31 GMT
Wes Spears writes
> Does anyone have a POP3 server running under NeXTSTEP?
Yes. Running under 3.2 on Intel, though that probably doesn't matter.
> If so, please tell me about it.
I grabbed the source code from ftp.CC.Berkeley.EDU (in pub), compiled it
(very easy), installed it, and it works. I'm using PC-Eudora, a freeware
Windows mail program from home (via SLIP). My only complaint is that POP
removes the mail from my system at work when I read it at home; I'd rather
it left the original in place. There might be a way; haven't tried yet.
---
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Eudora and NeXTmail
Date: 7 Mar 1994 18:48:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lfsu1$ml6@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Mar7.144704.19978@ornl.gov>
In article <1994Mar7.144704.19978@ornl.gov> jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
writes:
> Would some kind soul please clue me in about the capabilities and
>limitations of the mail program "Eudora" for DOS/Windows and the Mac? Can
>formatted files (e.g., WordPerfect documents) attached to NeXTmail
>messages be received and read by people who use Eudora, and vice versa?
NeXT Mail format messages cannot be read by Eudora, as far as I know.
Neither the opposite direction. NeXT Mail.app cannot read
standard binary attachments by Eudora, which are in MIME mail
format.
There are 3 solutions that you can buy or get for free.
These all have MIME mail capability, and will work with
Eudora.
[1] Echelon.app (handles both MIME and NeXTmail)
[2] Eloquent.app (handles both MIME and NeXTmail, also accesses netnews)
These are commercial apps (no source), but demos are available from the
archives (see submissions dir on cs.orst.edu, or the index).
You should try these. Echelon is a lot cheaper, and duplicates
NeXT Mail.app conventions better (separate windows for each mailbox),
Eloquent.app is more like NewsGrazer in that there is only one
window which is switched among mailboxes.
[3] 'pine'. This is to be run from Terminal or via remote login,
and has a menu driven interface with pretty decent editor. This
can send/receive MIME attachments too. Pine is available via ftp
in source form("ftp.cac.washington.edu" in the file "mail/pine.tar.Z").
It is preconfigured for NeXT among other platforms, and compiles
as is on the NeXT 3.2 with "build nxt" in the topmost directory of
the distribution. Install is really simple.
As I understand, our favorite Mark Crispin has had some hands in
pine, and the IMAP thing is his contribution.
NeXT should have had something like Echelon long time ago. They
may have some plans on supporting MIME, but now that there are two
commercial alternatives, perhaps they shouldn't. NeXT Mail.app has
had basically no improvement during many year's of its existence
despite a lot of complaints. I would rather like to see the two
3-rd parties do well and be more responsive to our needs than NeXT
has been.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf)
Subject: Re: DOOM question
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: <1994Mar7.085214.1438@amylnd.stgt.sub.org>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Organization: Agnus' Home, Leonberg/Warmbronn, Germany
References: <SMITHW.94Feb26220911@sofya.hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:52:14 GMT
Dr. William V. Smith (smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu) wrote:
> "I can't seem to find much of the secret stuff in the
> 'toxin refinery'. Any one have some hints on what to do?"
> You can reply to me and I will pass it on. Thanks.
I need help, too. In the first level, I did only find two of
the three secrets. I found the way to the 200% armor and I
found the better weapon behind the monster. Please, where is
the entrance to the third secret?
Thank you,
Matthias
--
** Matthias Zepf, Riegelaeckerstrasse 27, 71 229 Leonberg, Germany **
** +49 7152 41917 Email: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (use NeXTmail!) **
** !!! Mails >50k to zepfms@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de !!! **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille)
Subject: Pages Software Announces Shipment of Pages by Pages(tm) (was Re: Good Word Processor for NS/i?
Message-ID: <CMB9v4.29q@cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
References: <2lebme$ovr@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 20:21:03 GMT
Hi folks !
I just received this announce from NeXT and Pages. I thought that the NeXT
community could be interested to see that Pages was at last really shipping !
Best regards,
- Eric
In article <2lebme$ovr@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm
Shift, Inc.) writes:
> In article <2le9iv$lod@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd
> Takken) writes:
> > WriteUp just started shipping (as of last week?). Last week, Pages told
> > me on the phone that they would be shipping in two weeks. I haven't
> > called them this week. I don't know whether these two products meet your
> > requirement of "feature rich", but they are all there is at the moment.
> > Oh, I also believe you can get an old version of WordPerfect. WordPerfect
> > used to sell in MAB form for Intel & Motorolla, but I believe it is no
> > longer supported.
> >
> WordPerfect is to be supported through January 1995...you are not entirely in
> bad shape if you buy it (you cannot import WP 6.x files, nor can you import
> tabling features and some other graphical features found in 5.x
either)...Pages
> may ship in two weeks however most users will find (and it is not their
intent)
> that Pages will hardly be usable as any kind of text processor.
>
> Dave
> --
> Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice]
> A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax]
> NeXTMail/MIME Mail Welcomed info@paradigm-shift.com
>
From: Darren_Smith@NeXT.COM (Darren Smith)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:38:16 -0800
To: next-announce@digifix.com
Subject: Pages Software Announces Shipment of Pages by Pages(tm)
Cc: news_from_next_ext@NeXT.COM, marketing@NeXT.COM
For Immediate Release
Contact: Susan Peterson
Pages Software Inc
9755 Clairemont Mesa Blvd.
San Diego, CA 92124
619/492-9050 X 225
619/492-9124 fax
susan@pages.com
Ann Kohut
Manning, Selvage & Lee
10 Universal City Plaza
Suite 2600
Universal City, CA 91608-1084
818/509-1840
818/509-1972 fax
PAGES SOFTWARE ANNOUNCES FIRST WORLDWIDE SHIPMENTS OF PAGES by
PAGES(tm)
OBJECTBASED PROGRAM REPRESENTS SHIFT IN DOCUMENT CREATION
PARADIGM
SAN DIEGO,CA, March 7, 1994 _ Pages Software Inc today announced
it has begun worldwide customer shipments of Pages by Pages(tm),
the company's much lauded ObjectBased(tm) software application
that allows users - including those with little or no layout or
design expertise - to write, publish, and present information
easily and effectively.
Pages by Pages, as both company executives and publishing industry
observers agree, represents a complete shift in the document and
presentation creation paradigm. Because the program is
object-oriented throughout, it transcends existing page layout and
desktop publishing programs.
"Pages is one of the few new software products that is not
evolutionary," said Larry Spelhaug, Pages CEO. " Pages is
rule-based and is driven by Design Models(tm), which are the heart
of its uniqueness. What we do is separate a document's content
from its format, allowing the user to concentrate on writing the
document."
"During the development process we had always committed to
delivering a product that was stable and productive; we now have
that and much more," stated Bruce Webster, Pages' chief technical
officer. "Pages by Pages is a product that's more elegant, mature,
and feature-rich than we had planned. It's a complete product, and
I'm confident that those who viewed it during development as well
as those trying it for the first time will be favorably
impressed."
Pages by Pages, which operates on both Motorola and Intel- based
processor systems running NEXTSTEP(tm) - the industry acclaimed
object-oriented operating system - is targeted to all levels of
users in corporate, government, and education markets. Recent
agreements between NeXT and Hewlett-Packard will soon enable Pages
to run on HP's PA-RISC based machines running NEXTSTEP. NEXTSTEP
will run on Sun's SPARC stations this year, and NeXT and Sun have
jointly agreed to publish the OPENSTEP(tm) specification by
mid-1994.
"We believe that Pages by Pages is such an outstanding product, it
will expand the market for both NEXTSTEP(tm) and OPENSTEP. Pages'
success on these platforms will create a bow wave that the company
will ride into other markets," Spelhaug stated.
Pages by Pages is based on the philosophy that document processing
applications should let the person writing the document focus on
the content, and details of the style of the document should be
built into the application. Styles and rules for the document have
been created for the user in Design Models, which let the user
choose the style of any element of a document in the icon-based
element inspector. Users can also easily re-format or change the
look of the entire document at the click of a button. Pages can be
used for single-page letters and memos or for multi-page reports,
newsletters, manuals or presentations. Because Pages is so simple
to use and offers so much functionality, it makes users more
productive by allowing them more time to concentrate on the
content of their work.
Design Models are the unique part of the Pages system. Design
Models use the expertise of a professional designer and production
person into rules and priorities, that ensure effective page
layout. These rules govern the behavior of elements that make up
documents or presentations. Users will be able to select from a
number of standard Design Models that are included with Pages.
Bundled Design Models will meet the needs of users who produce a
wide variety of documents: letters, reports, proposals,
newsletters, manuals, and presentations. Additional Design Models
will be available and will be priced separately. Design Models for
professional markets such as financial services, legal, and
medical are planned.
The company also said that a Designer Toolkit(tm) enhancement to
Pages by Pages will soon be made available to qualified customers.
The Designer Toolkit will provide tools that allow users to adapt
existing Design Models or to create new Design Models to fill a
specific need. The tools will translate a designer's concepts and
intentions into rules and priorities. Pages Designer Toolkit will
be available at the end of the year.
An introductory special of $595 (a $200 savings off the standard
retail price of $795) is offered for the first 90 days, with
discounts for site licenses and educational institutions. The
introductory price includes the product, four Design Models, one
year free support, one additional Design Model (as they become
available), and a free Pages upgrade. A 30-day license evaluation
unit is available for $14.95.
Pages will be sold through authorized resellers worldwide, as well
as directly from Pages Software Inc. Orders can be placed by
calling 1-800-772-5335.
System requirements are NEXTSTEP 3.0 or higher with a minimum 20MB
of hard disk space and 16 MB of RAM. For NEXTSTEP Intel platforms,
1024 x 768 or greater resolution is recommended, with a minimum of
20MB of hard disk space and 16MB of RAM. The product is available
initially on magnetic media, and will soon be released on CD-ROM .
Pages Software Inc was founded in June,1990 with the intent to
lead the document processing software industry with easy-to-use,
productive solutions for all levels of office professionals. The
company's products, initially being developed on NEXTSTEP, are
planned for multiple computer platforms and operating systems.
Pages Version 1.0 Feature List
Architecture
Completely object-oriented document processor
Design elements (such as font, columns, tables, graphics)
all are objects.
Design Models provide design intelligence embedded into
every document.
Object-link compatible
Support for short, easy documents as well as long, complex
documents full support of NeXTSTEP 3.0+
environment.
User interface
moveable tool bar, with tear-off sub-bars
WYSIWYG display
various display levels, including full page, facing pages,
multiple pages, thumbnails.
ability to scale display between 25% and 200%
ability to edit and layout at all display and
magnification levels.
unlimited windows and documents open at any time
Documents
unlimited pages, sections, stories per document
unlimited number of documents open simultaneously
automatic creation of backup document
automatic document save at user-selected interval
open document defaults set at user or network level
manual page breaks
document management subsystem
thumbnail representations for quick document
re-arrangement.
zoom and page arrangement feature allows for continued
editing.
single page, 2 page, or book arrangement
gutter control for binding
letter, legal, landscape, A4, overhead and 35mm slide page
sizes pre-set.
full find/replace functionality
multiple levels of Undo/Redo
Design models
3 Design models with shipping release, 1 to follow
post-release 1.0
rule-based style choices for a wide range of design
elements
multiple design models open simultaneously
Design Model transformations
Stylesheets
separate stylesheets for each section
stylesheets and style sets can be saved, edited,
protected, named, viewed, re-used
unlimited number of stylesheets per document
style sets with multiple stylesheets available
Styles
Styles defined in Design Models
System of automatic style coordination
automatic global paragraph styles
support for bulleted lists, outlines, and TOC leaders
alternate and exception styles pre-set or user created
embellishments controlled by user and/or system
administration
Templates
pre-defined and user-defined templates
network or local distribution
Import/Export of text
export text to ASCII, RTF, PostScript
import text from ASCII, RTF, MIF, WordPerfect 5.0,
WriteNow
Typographic functions
adjustable point size, leading
automatic kerning
patented copyfitting feature
automatic handling of "smart quotes"
user-selectable text justification
full support for the ISO Latin-1 character set
automatic fit matching during font substitution
text emphasis includes underline, strikethrough, super-
and subscripts, bold, italic, more
widows and orphan control
automatic generation of drop caps
case change (all caps, lower caps, etc.)
Color and fills
full screen color support
ability to apply spot color to titles, heads, text,
background, headers, footers, graphics, borders,
and more
separate selection of stroke and fill colors for text
Graphics
ability to import and place EPS and TIFF graphics
fixed or floating placement
ability to scale, rotate, flip graphic images
user-selectable text wrap around graphics, frames
Object manipulation
drag-and-drop placement of objects on page
ability to move objects throughout document
ability to cut, copy and paste objects
ability to add decorative borders to object
object linking for live links with other next applications
Layout
fixed and floating frames for headings, graphics, tables,
rules and more
display column guides, grid lines
snap to column lines, grid lines
display and print crop and registration marks
user-selectable units, including points, picas, inches,
centimeters, ciceros, didots
Preferences
Global or document preferences at the user or network
level
show or hide columns, text symbols, graphics, grid
Columns
unlimited number of columns [based on design model]
manual column breaks
book or magazine flow
Headers and footers
automatic insertion, including different styles for facing
pages
ability to set up and edit text fields with variables
multiple numbering styles
multiple numbering sequences for sections, documents
Footnotes
supports bottom-of-page footnotes
user-selectable numbering and format styles
automatic renumbering
full copy and paste supported
Tables
ability to copy tab-delimited data from other spreadsheets
pre-set table styles with user editing and formatting
features
dynamic layout and manipulation of table elements
ability to join, split, and grow cells
full emphasis capability, including text justification
direct text entry and deletion, with automatic
reformatting of document
full support of cut, copy and paste
ability to edit across column
Auto numbering
variables (marker language)
date and time markers
automatic numbering of captions, including multiple
sequences
automatic numbering of sections, chapters
automatic page numbers across sections, documents
multiple numbering styles
Hyphenation
automatic hyphenation control with exception words
ability to limit consecutive hyphens in a paragraph
Spell check
ability to add and delete words in user dictionaries
ability to select custom dictionaries
on-line access to definition/thesaurus dictionary
Documentation, help and tutorial
full user and reference manuals
on-line context-sensitive help system
on-line "resident expert" information for style selections
Printing
supports all NeXT-compatible output devices, including
imagesetters, film recorders, third-party
PostScript printers
supports both monochrome and color output
crop and registration mark printing option
# # #
Pages by Pages, ObjectBased, Design Models, and Designer Toolkit
are trademarks of Pages Software Inc. NeXT, NEXTSTEP, and
OPENSTEP are trademarks or registered trademarks of NeXT Computer,
Inc.
--
"The trouble with our times is
that the future is not what it
used to be." - Paul Valery
_____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: Re: DOOM question
Message-ID: <CMBBJt.LpM@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
References: <1994Mar7.085214.1438@amylnd.stgt.sub.org>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 20:57:28 GMT
> I need help, too. In the first level, I did only find two of
> the three secrets. I found the way to the 200% armor and I
> found the better weapon behind the monster. Please, where is
> the entrance to the third secret?
With the original NEXTSTEP DOOM (has there been any updates?),
I don't think you could get the third secret without cheating.
The cheats are as follows:
In the map mode (get there by hitting the TAB key), type
iddt
This will give you the full map of that level. Type it a second
time and it will show you where all the bad guys, treasures,
lights, bullets, and so on are. Type it a third time and
you will return to normal mode.
As far as getting to the third secret area, I had to move
through the walls. To do this, type
idspispopd
This turns "clipping" off allowing you to move through walls.
Type it a second time to turn clipping back on; just make sure you
are not in a wall when you do this.
There are other cheats as well, look in the doom newsgroup.
Todd
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM question
Date: 7 Mar 1994 23:01:04 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2lgbng$174@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Mar7.085214.1438@amylnd.stgt.sub.org>
In article <1994Mar7.085214.1438@amylnd.stgt.sub.org> writes:
> Dr. William V. Smith (smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu) wrote:
> > "I can't seem to find much of the secret stuff in the
> > 'toxin refinery'. Any one have some hints on what to do?"
> > You can reply to me and I will pass it on. Thanks.
>
> I need help, too. In the first level, I did only find two of
> the three secrets. I found the way to the 200% armor and I
> found the better weapon behind the monster. Please, where is
> the entrance to the third secret?
After clearing the rest of the level, go back to the "blue" room that has
the U-shaped center area. From there run as fast as possible to the ledge
where the imp(s) were in the room with the zig-zag path going through the
waste. In the dark rear left corner of that little cubicle (not where the
shotgun is) there should now be an elevator to take you up to the third
secret.
Enjoy,
Paul Cardon
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: re: What comm software are YOU using under NS/i?
Date: 7 Mar 1994 22:53:28 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lgb98$kfc@netnews.upenn.edu>
re: What comm software are YOU using under NS/i?
>The subject says it all. I have been trying to use TeleComm but I can't
>transfer stuff at a reasonable rate, i.e. a 4 hours estimated for a 1 MB
I have had even more serious problems attempting to use TeleComm. My
connection is quite slow, much slower than under kermit, as measured
by text scroll and typeahead rate-- the connection can not keep up
with my typing (and I don't even type that fast). Also, I was not
able to get zmodem working at all, which may have something to do
with the fact that our dial-in modems REQUIRE a 7E1 connection.
Alas, the author was unable to solve any of my problems. Kermit works
much better than TeleComm for me, and its FREE, but of course
is a slower file-transfer protocol than zmodem. Your best bet,
if you have access to a SLIP server, is to use TransSys PNI SLIP
implementation. It works very well, and the file transfers
(using ftp or rcp) are fast.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: len@netcom.com (Len Macdonell)
Subject: Re: POP3 Server on NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <lenCMBKK4.3z9@netcom.com>
Organization: TREND Consulting
References: <1994Mar1.033214.1161@weston.com> <1994Mar7.170631.11127@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:12:03 GMT
In article <1994Mar7.170631.11127@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
<gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>Wes Spears writes
>> Does anyone have a POP3 server running under NeXTSTEP?
>
>Yes. Running under 3.2 on Intel, though that probably doesn't matter.
>
>> If so, please tell me about it.
>
>I grabbed the source code from ftp.CC.Berkeley.EDU (in pub), compiled it
>(very easy), installed it, and it works. I'm using PC-Eudora, a freeware
>Windows mail program from home (via SLIP). My only complaint is that POP
>removes the mail from my system at work when I read it at home; I'd rather
>it left the original in place. There might be a way; haven't tried yet.
Just check "Leave Mail on Server" in switches.
>
>---
>Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
>Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
>gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
>(403) 492-8648
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From: Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTstep version of Mosaic???
Date: 8 Mar 1994 01:33:12 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lgkko$9tt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Professor MacKie-Mason:
MiNUG has a copy of OmniWeb that is functional inside of the NeXT_Archive.
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30231 Ann Arbor, MI 48113
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From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM question
Date: 8 Mar 1994 00:41:40 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA
Message-ID: <2lghk4$mf0@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
References: <1994Mar7.085214.1438@amylnd.stgt.sub.org>
> > "I can't seem to find much of the secret stuff in the
> > 'toxin refinery'. Any one have some hints on what to do?"
> > You can reply to me and I will pass it on. Thanks.
>
> I need help, too. In the first level, I did only find two of
> the three secrets. I found the way to the 200% armor and I
> found the better weapon behind the monster. Please, where is
> the entrance to the third secret?
Spoilers below:
There is a lot of secret stuff in the toxin refinery (E1L3). First, look
for a secret door past the blue door. You'll need the yellow key behind
there. Second, after you've killed the monsters near the yellow key, go
back out and RUN up the stairs towards the yellow key, and see if you can
see anything.
For level 1, there is a door that opens near the shotgun, but only when
you enter the zig-zag area, so you have to run fast before the door
closes. (Not much there when you get there, but a good place to hide in
network play, I suppose)
Good luck.
Ok, here is my question. While I can find 100% of the secrets on level 1
and 3, I can only get 83% of the secrets on level 2. Has anyone gotten
100% on this level? I seem to have explored everything on the map. (Using
iddt to show me the whole map)
Michael
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From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon)
Subject: Elapsed Time Spreadsheet Function
Message-ID: <CMAyuB.I6A@oodis01.hill.af.mil>
Keywords: Mesa, time, function
Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;)
Organization: Hill AFB
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:22:58 GMT
I am looking for an "elapsed time" function that will take two 24-hour
time-formatted inputs and give me the elapsed time between them. I need
precision down to thousandth's of a sec (i.e., .001). I am using Mesa and
need to do lots of elapsed time calculations. If anyone knows of or
thinks they could create such a vermen for me (as my knowledge of Obj-C
and C++ is extremely limited), please email me at the address below.
Thanks.
Keith Salmon
Aerospace Engineer
545 Test Group
Hill Air Force Base, Utah
salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (NeXTMail preferred)
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NextMail <----> Microsoft Mail? How?
Message-ID: <1994Mar7.180059.12832@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 7 Mar 94 18:00:59 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
Are there any solutions to the problem of exchanging Nextmail with Microsoft
Mail? Simple solutions that wouldn't include such things as attachments would
be acceptable for now, but I would really like as complete a "exchange" as
possible.
Additions to either package would be acceptable.
Any help appreciated.
======================================================================
John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred)
Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
[Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously."
======================================================================
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextMail <----> Microsoft Mail? How?
Date: 8 Mar 1994 04:12:16 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lgtv0$hbk@inxs.concert.net>
References: <1994Mar7.180059.12832@cc.usu.edu>
In article <1994Mar7.180059.12832@cc.usu.edu> slxn8@cc.usu.edu writes:
> Are there any solutions to the problem of exchanging Nextmail with Microsoft
> Mail?
I don't really think there's a solution yet, however Pranav Patel (he ported
SAS to NeXTSTEP back in '90 or '91) is working on just such an application...it
should bridge between both NeXTmail and cc:Mail and Microsoft Mail...
Contact Pranav Patel at pranav@pujancorp.com.
Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Characterset
In-Reply-To: koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de's message of 5 Mar 1994 16:53:48 GMT
To: koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar5133047@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2l7a6h$14m@email.tuwien.ac.at> <BYER.94Mar4105303@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
<CEDMAN.94Mar4183809@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<2lades$3ok@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 18:30:45 GMT
In article <2lades$3ok@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig) writes:
In article <CEDMAN.94Mar4183809@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> (CE>) wrote:
In article <BYER.94Mar4105303@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) (SB>) writes:
SB> NEXTSTEP, by default, uses it's own "character encoding",
SB> (/NextStepEncoding). In /systemdict, there is also a
SB> pre-defined encoding (/ISOLatin1Encoding) which is the
SB> ISO-8859-1 encoding.
SB>
SB> Changing the encoding of a font under Display PostScript is
SB> easy. Unfortunately, neither the font panel nor most
SB> applications support it, and I don't think Terminal supports
SB> arbitrary mapping of characters as an input filter. I think
SB> this would be a good feature for someone to implement,
SB> though...
Could you please explain us how that would be implemented? We would
have to change the binary Outline fontfiles from Adobe, wouldn't we? From my
experiences I have the impression, it's not sufficient to change the
afm-files, is it?
No, a few lines of runtime PS are all you need. Check the Postscript
Language Reference Manual, Second Edition page 275.
CE> So when you
CE> entered an accented character on any of the standard keyboards
CE> you'd see something completely unrelated on the screen when
CE> using /ISOLatin1Encoding.
Yes. But we might just do another small job of redefining the
keymappings. Ready to go.
Yes, yes, but I can hardly expect every single user to alter all their
fonts.
CE> Too bad -- I'm sure the European
CE> users would have liked to see this as a feature of Emacs 19
CE> for NS.
No thanks, I ****like**** emacs-19-NS, but the character and keyboard
encoding are two thingies that should be left to the WindowServer, not
to Applications.
I'm sorry to say that with a little help from Scott, emacs 19 for NS
now supports ISOLatin1. Just:
dwrite Emacs ISOLatin YES
and Emacs uses ISOLatin to input, output and store characters.
Without that dwrite Emacs uses NextStepEncoding. Right now I'm
testing the ISOLatin setting in gnus, so right now:
Andreas Kpnig (NeXTencoded), Andreas Kvnig (ISO-8859-1)
^ ^
this looks strange and this is a proper oe
Carl Folke Henschen Edman (sorry, no Umlaute)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
In-Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu's message of 7 Mar 94 07:34:00 GMT
To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar7092430@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp> <1994Feb3.164658.1592@afs.com>
<2le3ld$2m3@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <jeffo.763025640@uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:24:30 GMT
In article <jeffo.763025640@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
Charles Fu writes:
>Then again, why not just use emacs or vi unless you're editing RTF?
I think it's a good thing not to have to go to the terminal if one is
already comfortable with GUI-based solutions. I wish it could be that
one never needs to learn Unix or deal with a terminal window at all
with NS (oh well). I think it's part of the challenge to make NS GUI
apps that are powerful like Unix CLI apps are but also feature
intuitive interfaces that can are easily navigable by beginners and
experts alike.
But there is Emacs 19 for NS which a couple hundred beta-testers are
already using. The same binary will run on the terminal, under X and
under NS. Under the later it is almost as NeXTy as Edit.app while
remaining compatible with virtually all of the thousands of emacs lisp
programs available (even those written for X).
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sjs@ulysses.att.com (Steve Silverman[smb] MT 3F-114)
Subject: tcpdump
Message-ID: <1994Mar7.142942.4195@ulysses.att.com>
Sender: sjs@ulysses (Steve Silverman[smb] MT 3F-114)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:29:42 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Keywords: net
Has anyone installed tcpdump on NexT. I have 3.2 Next on Intel
and would like to install tcpdump for network monitoring.
Thanks..
sjs@mtketc1.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: POP3 Server on NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Mar7.210006.15281@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: imap mail pop3
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Mar7.170631.11127@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 21:00:06 GMT
In article <1994Mar7.170631.11127@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca writes:
> Wes Spears writes
> > Does anyone have a POP3 server running under NeXTSTEP?
>
> Yes. Running under 3.2 on Intel, though that probably doesn't matter.
>
> > If so, please tell me about it.
>
> I grabbed the source code from ftp.CC.Berkeley.EDU (in pub), compiled it
> (very easy), installed it, and it works. I'm using PC-Eudora, a freeware
> Windows mail program from home (via SLIP). My only complaint is that POP
> removes the mail from my system at work when I read it at home; I'd rather
> it left the original in place. There might be a way; haven't tried yet.
>
> ---
> Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
> Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
> gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
> (403) 492-8648
One way to do what you want is with imap. It compiles fine on a Next running
3.1. The public-domain MailManager.app talks imap, and there may be PC and/or
MAC clients for it. imap lets you keep the mail on the server (or download it,
if you wish); it's much more flexible than POP3.
Serge J. Goldstein
Next SysAdmin
Princeton University CIT
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HD icon becoming FOLDER icon
Date: 7 Mar 1994 23:55:06 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403080555.AA10998@alleg.EDU>
I unfortunately have no _solution_ for this problem, but I have had
the same experience with a 3.5" floppy (that it is seen as a folder,
not a disk... which is fine until you want to Eject it) and I too
would be interested to see if there was a fix for this.
Tim
--
Timothy J. Luoma
Email: luomat@alleg.edu
Using NS 3.1 Black
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.admin
Subject: Mail delivery over dynamic SLIP connection
Date: 8 Mar 1994 05:53:40 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lh3t4$jmg@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Is there a way to have mail delivered, over a SLIP connection, to
my NeXT machine at home? This is complicated by the fact that IP
address from our SLIP serverr are DYNAMICALLY ALLOCATED, do i don't
have a permanent IP address. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: nengelke@newyork.bozell.com (Ned Engelke)
Subject: HyperSense
Message-ID: <1994Mar8.002304.21600@bozell.com>
Sender: news@bozell.com
Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:23:04 GMT
Hello,
Does anyone know anything about an application called HyperSense by (I
believe) Thoughtful Software? I looked in the Third Party and Peripherals
guide but could find no mention of such a beast. I demo would be
especailly neat!
Thanks!!!
Ned
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From: daj@ccrma.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How (exactly) can I hook up my synthesizer & print music?
Date: 8 Mar 1994 06:33:46 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2lh68a$7rr@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2l3d13$b8q@pith.uoregon.edu>
In article <2l3d13$b8q@pith.uoregon.edu> adams@bright.uoregon.edu (Jeff Adams)
writes:
> Alright. I have a MIDI-equipped synthesizer. I have the Music Kit.
> I have a little box that I stole from a Mac that connects the Synth
> to one of the serial ports.
>
Whoops. You can't just use any Mac interface. The NeXT 040 hardware uses a
different serial port. You need a NeXT-compatible interfaces, available from a
variety of sources (that I don't have handy right now, unfortunately.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Subject: Re: 2 IDE's, 1 SCSI- HOW???
Message-ID: <CMB3v6.1wC@tms-gmbh.de>
Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de
Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <CM9FKL.E8F@utstat.toronto.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:11:29 GMT
Hi!
Whenever a user logs in, NEXTSTEP looks for additional HDs and
'automounts' them for that user. On this way, all the owner-stuff gets
lost. You have to force the OS to mount the device during bootup. Here's
how its done:
Your /etc/fstab probably looks like this:
#
# DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE, IT IS REQUIRED FOR BOOTING
#
# This file contains information used to mount local hard disks.
# Consult your Network and System Administration manual
# for information on adding local disks. Information on the format
# of entries in this file can also be found in the fstab man page.
#
/dev/hd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
Add a second line, looking like this:
/dev/sd0a /theUsers 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
This should do the trick, now your SCSI-HD gets mounted during bootup of
the system, and you can have homedirectories on this. The whole disk will
be mounted as /theUsers (you are free to change this), so you have to
change the homedirectory of the 'moved' users in UserManager.app (or, if
you know how, with NetInfoMgr). Also be warned: If you wan't to disconnect
the SCSI-HD, remove that line from /etc/fstab BEFORE, otherwise your
system will not boot properly.
Hope that helps.
Gerd
In article <CM9FKL.E8F@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu
(Philip McDunnough) writes:
> I have NS/I installed on the first IDE of a PC. This drive is
partitioned
> into a 10meg DOS unit and a 330meg NS partition. The other IDE hard
drive
> is DOS (340meg's). I recently added a 1gig SCSI drive and I've had
nothing
> but hassles. The SCSI drive is currently formatted as a NS only drive,
as I
> can't partition it and that's ok anyway. But, I am unable to create any
> user accounts on the drive! If I do then they lose their ownership and
> group identities. Is there a trick here? I'd like to have all users with
> their accounts on the SCSI drive but have the NS system on the first IDE
> drive where I can decide into which OS I wish to boot.
>
> This is a 4th request. Perhaps this is a simple matter, but it sure
doesn't
> seem that way to me! I have read the installing NS to a SCSI when there
is
> an IDE drive document (1487_Booting_From_An ...) in Nextanswers.
Incidentally,
> if I move myself to the hard drive then it becomes damaged, and I then
have
> to repair it.
>
> Please reply via e-mail, if possible. The SCSI drive is a Seagate31200N
if
> that's an issue.
>
>
>
> --
> Philip McDunnough
> University of Toronto
> philip@utstat.toronto.edu
> [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Eudora and NeXTmail
Date: 8 Mar 1994 03:43:27 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <2lgs8v$or0@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <1994Mar7.144704.19978@ornl.gov>
Keywords: Eudora
In article <1994Mar7.144704.19978@ornl.gov> jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe) writes:
>
> Would some kind soul please clue me in about the capabilities and
>limitations of the mail program "Eudora" for DOS/Windows and the Mac? Can
>formatted files (e.g., WordPerfect documents) attached to NeXTmail
>messages be received and read by people who use Eudora, and vice versa?
>
>Jim
Eudora is a very nice DOS/Windows mail client, but it will not allow
you to interchange attachments with a NeXT using NeXTmail. NeXT's format for
attachments is not supported by any other mainstream mail program, so getting
NeXTMail attachments to anyone not using a NeXT involves the recipient
unencoding, uncompressing, and untarring the received message.
Meanwhile, older versions of Eudora used binhex to encode their
attachments, resulting in a similar inconvenience to NeXTSTEP users receiving
Eudora mail. I may be wrong (someone please correct me), but I also believe
that the attachments were encoded in Apple Single format, which is next to
useless to anyone not using a Macintosh.
Newer versions of Eudora have limited MIME capabilities, so it is
theoretically possible to send attachments to and fro from a Mac to a NeXT if
you use one of the third party mailers like Eloquent of Echelon, which have
MIME capability. However, at least in the versions of Eudora I've seen, this
theory is not a reality, because Eudora uses a non-standard X-encoding type of
BinHex(!), and because the attachments are still in Apple Single format, once
again making them useless to non-Macs without conversion utilities.
If newer versions of Eudora use base64 or quoted printable, I'd be
very interested in knowing. And if they are using Apple Double now, I'm
really interested.
At least with the Eudora-Eloquent/Echelon combination, you would be
able to send formatted text back and forth, and attachments sent from the NeXT
should be readable on the Mac side (assuming Eudora handles incoming base64
and quoted printable).
With the recent publication of an RFC about extending the MIME standard
to address the Mac document problem (in a nutshell, they recommend sending Mac
files Apple Double), there is reason to be optimistic that everyone involved
will implement these extensions, making for true seamless interchange.
Rich Ogata
rogata@arpa.mil
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From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
Subject: Re: Naive DBModeller question
Message-ID: <1994Mar8.074906.10937@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Originator: blanford@arkenstone
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References: <1994Mar7.110226.27752@zoo.bt.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 07:49:06 GMT
In article <1994Mar7.110226.27752@zoo.bt.co.uk> gah@zoo.bt.co.uk (Geoff
Hopson) writes:
>
> I have just started playing with DBKit and DBModeller. I am running NS
> 3.2 on a PC as an NFS client off a Sun SparcStation, and want to use
> Oracle, which is up and running off another Sparc on the network (ie not
> the NFS name server). I have copied across the OracleDemo DBModel into
> ~/Library/Databases, and am able to knock up a quick database demo using
> the good old scott/tiger demo database. I now want to access a different
> database, and so tried to run DBModeller to build up the data model.
> However, when I attempt to "choose entities", the returned browser is
> blank! This is the case against the scott/tiger database too.
>
> Why does an existing DBModel (OracleDemo) work, when I cannot contruct a
> DBModel from scratch?
>
There is a datatype mismatch problem between Oracle 7 and the DBKit Oracle
adaptor, which was built on version 6 libraries. We have had no problem
at all retrieving default models from Oracle 6 but have experienced
exactly the described behavior with Oracle 7. Our workaround, since we
had both versions available, was just to duplicate the database on version
6 and use the models thus created to access version 7.
We asked NeXT the question anyway later and were told that the problem can
be avoided by executing the catalog6.sql script (as the SYSTEM user) to
place the Oracle 7 database in some kind of backward compatibility mode.
After that the DBModeler is supposed to pick up the models correctly. We
never went back and tried it since the point had become moot by that time.
-- Ron
blanford@gemstone.com
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Wringing better performance from SoftPC
Message-ID: <bchin.763058186@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1994Mar5.213825.10916@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:36:26 GMT
tmoore@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Terry Moore) writes:
>Opinions seem to differ about the ability of SoftPC to run DOS and Windows
>apps WELL. In my experience, which is pretty limited so far, SoftPC is
>pretty slow. I'm running it on a 466/66 with 32M of RAM and 2M of VRAM
>with a Wingine graphics card. What's worse, it doesn't seem to allow you
>to fool with the config.sys or autoexec.bat in ways that would, on a
>normal PC, improve performance, e.g. by loading things into high memory.
>Does anybody with more knowledge and experience have any suggestions or
>tips for wringing better performance out of the SoftPC emulation?
1. Use a NEXTSTEP native app.
2. Configure it to use as little memory as possible. It seems that if
you configure it to be an 8mb PC, it takes that chunk of memory
+ a meg or two out of your system right away. That means you're
effectively on a 20mb system after you launch it.
3. Conversely, put in as much memory (into the machine) as you can get.
Plan for your normal NEXTSTEP memory usage + memory devoted to
SoftPC - that means if you use 32mb normally, and you want
a 16mb SoftPC, put in 48mb of memory.
3. If you are running Windows in a window, keep the window as small as
possible. With a Wingine, you've got one of the fastest video
solutions, so you can't push it much further.
4. Don't overlap the SoftPC window
5. Run in full screen mode if you can stand it.
6. If you're on a network, keep everything on the local hard drive -
the app, the hard drive files.
7. Use a hard drive file instead of FSA/network drives.
8. Buy a Pentium.
9. Pay Insignia lots of $$$ to fix the bugs and performance problems.
(their Response Plus program)
An Insignia rep told me that the next SoftPC for NS/I release is due
in May/April - he didn't know what would be fixed/added.
Good luck!
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Good Word Processor for NS/i?
Message-ID: <bchin.763058911@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <2le9iv$lod@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <2lebme$ovr@inxs.concert.net> <schwettCMAKnE.2n9@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:48:31 GMT
schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) writes:
>Dave writes : "most users will find ... that Pages will hardly be usable
> as any kind of text processor."
>Hmm... exactly what is it then? More of a desktop publisher I assume? I
>very much enjoyed Ami Pro's "document processing" approach, which placed it
>somewhere between Word Processor and Desktop Publisher.
Pages is a new approach to document processing - it's actually really neat.
It's also hard to describe in a sane manner. A demo is the best way of
seeing it. Maybe someone else (like Pages sales person) would be willing
to try to describe it. Unfortunately, it's been on the verge of shipping
for what, a year now? It's also *very* expensive.
WriteUp, on the other hand, is a low end word processor. Therefore,
it's rather cheap and fast. It also takes full advantage of its
NEXTSTEP environment, things like object linking, services, filter services,
true WYSIWYG, etc. The biggest omission is multiple column support.
I like the UNIX way of things - therefore, I don't think the lack of
tables and equations detracts from the product. Use a spreadsheet and
EquationBuilder with object linking to fill those features in.
WriteUp's bigger brother (or rather, father) is PasteUp which is full
blown desktop publishing. The current version is just too unstable
and slow. However, we expect a new release that will cure all its
ailments and put NEXTSTEP back on the publishing market in a month
now, right Greg? :-) PasteUp has most of the features of PageMaker,
but again, takes advantage of NEXTSTEP and has a more direct interface.
There's another low end word processor out there, but I haven't heard
anything concrete about it.
I just got the latest WordPerfect, the January 20, 1994 edition.
For all the version numbers they use (1.0.1) you'd think they'd
change them once in a while. Anyways, it's basically WordPerfect
5.0 with a few 5.1 enhancements and it lives in a much better
environment. It works. It has bugs. It's mediocre. It's WordPerfect.
>Where could I get more information on either Pages or WriteUp?
Try info@pages.com and greg@afs.com respectively.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep version of Mosaic???
Date: 8 Mar 1994 09:08:15 GMT
Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding.
Message-ID: <2lhf9v$1vs@garuda.csulb.edu>
References: <2lgkko$9tt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
And
Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu> spake unto the masses:
>MiNUG has a copy of OmniWeb that is functional inside of the NeXT_Archive.
Am I to understand that OmniWeb has been posted to an archive site? If so,
exactly what archive site? I'm really interested in checking it out...
--
_O_ Ryan L. Watkins "people need to be shocked" dan
| vamp@csulb.edu "love never dies" dracula
| finger vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu for pgp 2.3a public key
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Illustrator-like App for NSI 3.2??
Date: 8 Mar 1994 09:19:21 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lhfup$t20@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Is there a general purpose graphics/presentation composition package
for NSI 3.2? Preferably free (or at least inexpensive for students).
I'm looking for something comparable to Adobe Illustrator. Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: HyperSense
Message-ID: <CMC98G.M81@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <1994Mar8.002304.21600@bozell.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 09:05:04 GMT
In article <1994Mar8.002304.21600@bozell.com> nengelke@newyork.bozell.com writes:
>Hello,
>
>Does anyone know anything about an application called HyperSense by (I
>believe) Thoughtful Software? I looked in the Third Party and Peripherals
>guide but could find no mention of such a beast. I demo would be
>especailly neat!
Yep, I have HyperSense running on my "NeXT PC". It's really a very neat
program, along the HyperCard lines but more powerful( my opinion). It's
put out by Thoughtful Software. You can reach them at 303-221-4596. Or
info@thoughtful.com . The company is great. I highly recommend this product,
if you like "Hypermedia authoring tools". I do...
Actually, it does a lot of things easily. Presentations, data base stuff,
educations "stacks, etc...
There is a demo on the main ftp sites...
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: u7913108@CCCA.NCTU.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Touch app
Date: 8 Mar 1994 11:00:51 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2lhlt3$8a3@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <1994Feb16.190326.2949@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <2k30d3$5pa@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <1994Feb20.152256.15995@news.csuohio.edu> <E6KMB50O@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Stephan Trebels (trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de) wrote:
: A.P.Santilli (woden@asgard.csuohio.edu) wrote:
: > *** Mark Lin *** (u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw) wrote:
: > : Stephen Fitzpatrick (sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk) wrote:
: > : : Anybody know of an application called Touch?
: The version shipped on the NeXT edu sampler still
: works for me (3.2 NS/m68k)!
: Ciao, Stephan
: --
: trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Could you *logout* succesfully?
It fails to logout in my friend's ColorTurbo.
Mark
From: u7913108@CCCA.NCTU.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Chinese text processing
Date: 8 Mar 1994 11:02:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <2lhlvv$8a3@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <1994Mar6.054826.27067@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Bryan Van Norden (bryan@Csli.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: Does anyone have any experience with Chinese text processing
: and printing on a NeXT? Are there any commercial packages available? If
: not, what is the easiest way to construct my own package?
: I am not a regular reader of this group, so I would appreciate
: people sending me a copy of any postings they submit on
: this topic.
: Thanks,
: Bryan
: --
: Bryan William Van Norden
: "Submit to Barney!"
: 4426 Butterfield Road
: Cedar Falls, Iowa 50613-9634
You can find the AD in NeXTWorld magazine in detail.
Mark
From: Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mouse Xnext and mwm
Date: 8 Mar 1994 12:30:38 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2lhr5e$ej8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
i am using Xnext and mwm together: the problem is that after escaping into
nextstep and back to x11 i can not get any reaction from mwm anymore. it looks
like mwm got stuck. i applied the patch for .xinitrc as described by eric for
the twm - but to no avail
anyone sorted this one out?
matthias
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From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Haarseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tip-problem
Date: 8 Mar 1994 14:32:34 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <2lhupi$iu7@yrsa.ifi.uio.no>
I user tip for modemconection to a Unix-server. If I break the conection, I
sometimes get my PC hanging or slowing down to nothing. It seems to happen in
the folowing two situations:
1) If I pick-up the phone after exiting from the server, but before the
conection has finsihed, it somtimes results in the PC slowing down so much
that I can no longer use the mouse (but keybord works).
2) If I use Control-C to abort the comunication, the PC sometimes hangs up
(dies).
Has anyone experienced similar problems ?
When I exit from the server lots of crap is produced on the terminal (by the
way, this happens in TeleCom to). Does anyone now how to avoid this (this is
why I so often use ^C or pick up thephone to check that the comunication is
finished) ?
Arne Haarseth (arneha@ifi.uio.no)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: Suggestions for CAD and 3D modelling
Message-ID: <1994Mar8.144041.17509@iitmax.iit.edu>
Keywords: Academy Solid Thinking Intuitiv3D 3DReality Others
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 14:40:41 GMT
Hello,
I would like to round out my software collection with CAD and Modelling
programs. Does anyone have experience, comments, or reccommendations
on the current or future CAD and 3D programs.
I'm looking at Academy and it seems comprable to Velllum on Mac.
I have not evaluated the latest 3d Modelling packages. I am looking to be
able to model products for industrial design evaluation and presentation. So
the program that comes closest to what Alias can do is a clear winner. I'm
not interested in flying logos, etc..
Any thoughts, comments, or rumors are appreciated..
Best,
Chris Conley
Institute of Design
Chicago
From: szallies@koenig.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Constantin Szallies (PG234))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to transfer NeXTMail by floppy disk
Date: 8 Mar 1994 15:17:00 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Sender: szallies@koenig (Constantin Szallies (PG234))
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2li4tc$7c9@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
I'm working on a Sparcstation with Internet access --- but I am using
a NeXT(fip) at home :-)
How do I transfer NeXTMail to my comp at home?
I tried the following:
Saved my Nextmail as 'mbox' and copied it on floppydisk.
Created a lala.mbox folder at home. Copied the 'mbox' file into that folder.
When I launch Mail.app, I can read the mail, but its uudecoded!
How can I make Mail.app notice that its NeXTMail, not normal Unixmail?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: twetzel1@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Tim Wetzel )
Subject: MouseX oddities
Message-ID: <5DOMBGFU@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Summary: MouseX problems: biased colors, missing fonts error message
Keywords: MouseX X fonts
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:03:10 GMT
Hello all,
I'd appreciate confirmations or hints to the following MouseX (v2.5)
oddities:
- biased colors.
The the standard twm dark red (`maroon') I am familiar with from
various X workstations (and which I quite like) looks more like a
medium/light pink (which I strongly dislike) at my NSTC.
This has at least some importance as I eventually will prepare some
color images for print.
The colors look `normal' at the NeXTSTEP side, but I have no image in
`natural' colors to verify this.
Supposing this is not just a matter of silly monitor/brightness
settings, there seem to be color-calibrating tools for X (xcmsdb), but
without real documentation or examples (they refer to Xlib
documentation ;-( ).
- startup delay/font problem
Upon startup via Xfe, there is a approx. 10sec delay between the X
server taking over the monitor and the (audible) startup of the
initial applications in .xinitrc.
Possibly related to this, there are console log messages at roughly
the same time (from memory):
... syslog: Couldn't find default for {NXSystemFont |
NXBoldSystemFont | (null pointer)}.
(one for each)
At a quick search, I was unable to find this error message string in
Xnext.color, Xfe.app/Xfe or the X libraries. My guess is that it's
coming from some resolver or DPS library.
Can anyone confirm, explain or cure this behaviour?
My system is a NeXTstation ColorTurbo running NS3.2 and MouseX v2.5
(17" FIMI monitor, in case it makes a difference).
Tim
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: video-card-driver
Date: 8 Mar 1994 16:25:06 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2li8t2$125@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
Can someone tell me why there are no 8 bit color drivers for NSFI ?
(Every simple OS supports it) There is 8 bit grayscale support, would it be so difficult to change
the color-palette to obtain color ?
Or are there reasons I don't know about ?
So it would be possible to have color on low-cost video-cards
(I'm a student and not all people have money to buy a 2MB V-RAM card for
working with NS with 1024 x 768 in color)
Thanks for your help
Oli
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John (kzin) Rudd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: New ATI driver available?
Message-ID: <143806@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 8 Mar 94 17:42:29 GMT
Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
I got a new motherboard and ati gup vlb from gateway recently..and
had to update all of my dos/windows and os/2 drivers.. then I booted
under NS and once teh boot gets past teh low-res vga screen, it get
lots of strange lines on the screen that look like each pixel row is
oscilated left and right across the screen..
I booted with config=Default, and this let me run under the low res
vga driver.. but when I reconfigured my ati driver, I still had the
same prblem when I rebooted..
So.. Does anyone have an up-to-date ATI GUP driver? where can I get one?
also, when you're at the graphical login screen... is there a key
sequence to key in shutdown or restart? I hate having reboot into
checking the disk and then reboot again just because my video driver
crapped out and I had to shut down impropperly.
(or is there a login id I can/should generate for forcing a graceful
shutdown/restart?)
Thanks for your help,
John
--
John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu)
===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
"Tonya, the new cologne for men. One whif makes women weak in the knees"
===========================DOOM(1.2) ON YOU!=================================
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good Word Processor for NS/i?
Date: 8 Mar 1994 18:18:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lifi8$e87@Times.Stanford.EDU>
References: <bchin.763058911@news.andi.org>
Bill Chin writes
|
| Pages is a new approach to document processing - it's actually really
| neat. It's also hard to describe in a sane manner. A demo is the best
| way of seeing it.
|
Actually, from what I've seen the following analogy seems to hold up
pretty well:
Pages : Word Processor ==== LaTeX : TeX
Of course, that's not going to help you a whole lot if you're not familiar
with TeX.
---
Scott Roy
Department of Computer Science
Stanford University
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to transfer NeXTMail by floppy disk
Date: 8 Mar 1994 18:33:56 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <2ligek$kt0@news.tamu.edu>
References: <2li4tc$7c9@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
In article <2li4tc$7c9@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>,
Constantin Szallies (PG234) <szallies@koenig.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> wrote:
>I'm working on a Sparcstation with Internet access --- but I am using
>a NeXT(fip) at home :-)
>How do I transfer NeXTMail to my comp at home?
>I tried the following:
>Saved my Nextmail as 'mbox' and copied it on floppydisk.
>Created a lala.mbox folder at home. Copied the 'mbox' file into that folder.
>When I launch Mail.app, I can read the mail, but its uudecoded!
>How can I make Mail.app notice that its NeXTMail, not normal Unixmail?
Nit: If it were uu_de_coded you would be happy. What it is is
uu_en_coded.
Now, here's my guess about the answer to your problem.
Disclaimer: I know nothing about the format of Mail.app mbox files.
The file you are saving on your Sun machine is almost certainly
just a straight text dump of the entire mail message, including
headers. That is good.
The <blah>.mbox file that Mail.app saves is almost certainly *not*
the same thing. (Doesn't Mail.app save some extra info in .mbox
files? I have no idea.)
You should not put the file you bring from the Sun machine into a
.mbox file. You should put it in /usr/spool/mail/<username> on
your NSI system. This is the place Mail.app looks for newly
arrived mail. It takes that mail, interprets what it is, and
moves it to your .mbox file. After placing it in
/usr/spool/mail/<username> fire up Mail.app and it will show up
as new mail.
Lusty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: a delete key (not backspace) in Edit
In-Reply-To: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:24:30 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Mar8110436@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <1994Jan29.215834.26784@rdbois.uucp> <1994Feb3.164658.1592@afs.com>
<2le3ld$2m3@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <jeffo.763025640@uiuc.edu>
<CEDMAN.94Mar7092430@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 19:04:36 GMT
Carl Edman writes:
Carl> But there is Emacs 19 for NS which a couple hundred beta-testers are
Carl> already using. The same binary will run on the terminal, under X and
Carl> under NS. Under the later it is almost as NeXTy as Edit.app while
Carl> remaining compatible with virtually all of the thousands of emacs lisp
Carl> programs available (even those written for X).
Not to mention the new font-lock mode, which is *tons* better than editing C
files in RTF. Once you get the colors set up right (or, if the case may be,
grays :-) Emacs 19 will automatically color certain parts of your program
for you. I have C/C++/ObjC keywords in dark red, typenames in steel blue...
I haven't yet modified the Lisp code so that it can handle ObjC function
names completely, but sometime soon I'll get around to it.
(And, of course, add the Listener object so that Project Builder can talk to
Emacs 19 instead of Edit or Emacs.)
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MouseX oddities
Date: 8 Mar 1994 20:07:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2liltv$kem@hub.ucsb.edu>
References: <5DOMBGFU@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
In article <5DOMBGFU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> twetzel1@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Tim Wetzel )
writes:
]
] Hello all,
] I'd appreciate confirmations or hints to the following MouseX (v2.5)
] oddities:
]
] - biased colors.
] The the standard twm dark red (`maroon') I am familiar with from
] various X workstations (and which I quite like) looks more like a
] medium/light pink (which I strongly dislike) at my NSTC.
] This has at least some importance as I eventually will prepare some
] color images for print.
]
Unfortunately, I did not delve into the color mechanics of the X server code
when I finished the R5 port of the color Xnext server. The "xcolors" demo
program displays its complete range of colors beautifully under Xnext, but I am
sure this does not preclude the possibility that the colormaps are not quite
right. Anybody out there who has intimate knowlege of how these maps might be
being misread by the NeXT 16-bit, TrueColor display are welcome to contact me,
and I will try to oblige with a fix.
]
] - startup delay/font problem
] Upon startup via Xfe, there is a approx. 10sec delay between the X
] server taking over the monitor and the (audible) startup of the
] initial applications in .xinitrc.
This slowness varies from machine to machine -- on my machine (68040, 40 Mb
RAM) it never takes more than about 5 seconds for the first program in the
xinitrc to start up.
] Possibly related to this, there are console log messages at roughly
] the same time (from memory):
]
] ... syslog: Couldn't find default for {NXSystemFont |
] NXBoldSystemFont | (null pointer)}.
] (one for each)
]
] At a quick search, I was unable to find this error message string in
] Xnext.color, Xfe.app/Xfe or the X libraries. My guess is that it's
] coming from some resolver or DPS library.
]
These error messages are totally harmless, and come from the XNextPaste helper
program (which allows copying/pasting between X and NextStep). They have
nothing to do with the slowness. Ignore them.
] Can anyone confirm, explain or cure this behaviour?
] My system is a NeXTstation ColorTurbo running NS3.2 and MouseX v2.5
] (17" FIMI monitor, in case it makes a difference).
I dont think the monitor makes any difference. Sorry I cannot be of more help
-- like I sez, yah gets what yah pays fer... :-)
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How about POP3 MODEM service?
Date: 8 Mar 1994 21:48:11 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2lirqr$nsa@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this question.
I've had popper (the POP3 server) working for a while now, so reliably
that all the Mac users want to dial in from home now. I tried the simple
approach of just making a new user (pop) with popper as its login shell,
but popper from the command line just exits soundlessly.
Has anyone out there hacked the popper source to work on a dialup (tty)
line?
If nobody has, I'll give it a try and re-post if I succeed.
Robert
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
--- Everything I say via this computer belongs to MIT. ---
---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Subject: Emacs 19
Message-ID: <CMD6ww.Lw@tms-gmbh.de>
Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de
Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <BYER.94Mar8110436@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 21:12:30 GMT
After reading so much about its miracle abilities, could someone please
enlighten me, where to find Emacs 19??? Hopefully as FAT binary...
Gerd
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP3 Server on NeXTSTEP
Date: 8 Mar 1994 15:49:28 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2li6q8$eud@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <1994Mar7.170631.11127@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca writes
> Wes Spears writes
> > Does anyone have a POP3 server running under NeXTSTEP?
> I'm using PC-Eudora... My only complaint is that POP
> removes the mail from my system at work when I read it at home;
> I'd rather it left the original in place.
We use this for folks with a PC at home, and the NuPOP client
program has an option to leave the mail files on the server
instead of importing them to the PC. I just have my users
do it this way from home, and use the usual pop-style importing
from their office clients.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: teb@blencoe2.chem.ornl.gov
Subject: NS 3.2 and Mac diskette troubles
Message-ID: <1994Mar8.224336.20934@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 22:43:36 GMT
Hi,
We just upgraded our NeXT hardware to NS 3.2 from
NS 3.0. I have a couple of questions/observations:
(1) Mac-formatted diskettes appear on the browser shelf
with an icon for a Mac-formatted *optical* disk. Same
for DOS diskettes.
(2) In the NS 3.2 release notes, there is a caution
against displaying the contents of Mac-formatted diskettes
in the browser while copying files to or from the diskette.
This could result in a system hang or crash.
I called NeXT software support. The answer to
observation (1) was: "gee, haven't heared of that before."
The recommendation for both (1) and (2) was: "wait for
the next system release... NeXT does not issue software
patches". I was surprised by this response from NeXT
software support. In contrast, hardware technical support
always ranks an A+. Any suggestions or known patches for
these "bugs"? Displaying the wrong icon is no big deal, but
a potential system crash *is*. There are far too many casual -
and careless - users around here. Please respond via e-mail.
Thanks,
Tim
Timothy E. Burch phone: 615-574-5034
Chemical and Analytical fax: 615-574-4961
Sciences Division e-mail: teb@blencoe2.chem.ornl.gov
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
From: mmaldona@andromeda.mty.itesm.mx (Ing. Maximo Maldonado Boyso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Which development tool?
Date: 8 Mar 1994 22:54:22 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <2livmu$33r5@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
We're currently evaluating different products to choose the one that will
support our development of applications for the next 5 years.
Three of these products have some of the characteristics we're looking
for:
- Database independece
- High quality GUI
- Object-Orientation
These products are:
- Power Builder 3.0
- JAM 5.0 (I know there's JAM 6.0 about to be released in the
market)
- Interface Builder with DBKit
I'm hopping that people out there that have used them, may give us some
advice, sharing with us some of their experiences: why you chose a product
for your particular development environment, does it fit or not your
necesities and why you say so, what you expected from the product and what
you've got from it, is it suitable, according to your experience, for
deploying large scale applications with let's say 500 concurrent users,
what about project management and team-work, and if you should choose a
development product, would you choose the same again.
If you don't have so broad an experience with any of these products, I'd
like to hear just what you know.
I will appreciate your time and valuable information, and I'll post a
summary of the responses I get.
Thank you,
Yours, Max and Alfonso
--
Maximo Maldonado B.
Alfonso Trevino C.
Information Services
ITESM-Campus Monterrey
Mexico
mmaldona@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
alfonso@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Now that there are some real NEXTSTEP wordprocessors...
Date: 8 Mar 94 23:34:29 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.763169669@uiuc.edu>
References: <2lihto$224@cronkite.cisco.com>
[I changed the newsgroups line to c.s.n.software because this pertains
directly to NS-software issues that can now be discussed with references
to existing software products, namely WriteUp and Pages.]
Barry Friedman writes:
>Better yet, how about AFS and Pages (and Lighthouse with WriteNow?)
>get together and cooperate on some common protocols. Maybe they could
>be published through OPN. This would make these apps suitable for both
>general productivity and MCCA.
A while back, someone brought up the idea that tables should be treated
externally, like EquationBuilder treats equations. That is, the table
should be edited within this outside app and linked or somehow brought
into the other app of your choice so that all sorts of editing apps can
have table functionality.
I think this statement was made by someone who doesn't know tables
very well (perhaps because of a lack of experience in using them in
high-power DTP apps such as Frame), but if this is something that can
be done and still retain the power of builtin-table apps like Frame
(on all platforms) and (to a lesser degree) MS Word and WordPerfect on
other platforms, I'm all for it.
I do like the benefits offered by an external app, but I am still
skeptical. Therefore, I suggest that table editing should be
considered when designing these cooperative protocols.
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Eudora and NeXTmail
Date: 8 Mar 1994 19:11:31 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
Message-ID: <2liil3$mn3@daffy.ldp.com>
References: <1994Mar7.144704.19978@ornl.gov> <2lgs8v$or0@umd5.umd.edu>
In <2lgs8v$or0@umd5.umd.edu>, rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata) writes:
> Newer versions of Eudora have limited MIME capabilities, so it is
>theoretically possible to send attachments to and fro from a Mac to a NeXT if
>you use one of the third party mailers like Eloquent of Echelon, which have
>MIME capability. However, at least in the versions of Eudora I've seen, this
>theory is not a reality, because Eudora uses a non-standard X-encoding type of
>BinHex(!), and because the attachments are still in Apple Single format, once
>again making them useless to non-Macs without conversion utilities.
> If newer versions of Eudora use base64 or quoted printable, I'd be
>very interested in knowing. And if they are using Apple Double now, I'm
>really interested.
Eudora 2.x (the commercial version) offers a choice of Apple Single,
Apple Double, UUEncode, or Binhex. Any of these can be made the
default for attachments (at least on the Mac -- I haven't
double-checked in the Windows version).
--
Rolfe Tessem | Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com | 96 Morton Street
(212) 463-0029 | New York, NY 10014
From: jbeda@macel.st.hmc.edu (Joe Beda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New ATI driver available?
Date: 8 Mar 1994 23:56:22 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA
Message-ID: <2lj3b6$53o@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
References: <143806@hydra.gatech.EDU>
John (kzin) Rudd writes
> also, when you're at the graphical login screen... is there a key
> sequence to key in shutdown or restart? I hate having reboot into
> checking the disk and then reboot again just because my video driver
> crapped out and I had to shut down impropperly.
>
> (or is there a login id I can/should generate for forcing a graceful
> shutdown/restart?)
>
I don't know about your problem with the ATI GUP (I run it just fine on my
generico clone 486DX266) but I can help you with the shutdown restart things.
They are such a neat little feature and I figured there might be people out
there that don't know about it so here are the ones I discovered.
Under login:
exit -- restart login...useful for reading new login tiff
reboot -- restarts the computer
rebootdos -- restarts in dos
shutdown -- I think...I never use it
If there are any others I would like to hear about them.
joe
--
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
| Joe Beda jbeda@hmc.edu (NeXT Mail)|
| "Bugs have feelers just like me" -- J Mascis |
| (909)621-8555x1378 Harvey Mudd College Atwood 201 |
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
<a href="http://macel.st.hmc.edu/~jbeda/jbeda.html">Moo!</a>
From: bfriedma@bfriedman-ss10.cisco.com (Barry Friedman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Now that there are some real NEXTSTEP wordprocessors...
Date: 9 Mar 1994 02:14:20 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
Message-ID: <2ljbds$hoa@cronkite.cisco.com>
References: <2lihto$224@cronkite.cisco.com> <jeffo.763169669@uiuc.edu>
In article <jeffo.763169669@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>Barry Friedman writes:
>
>>Better yet, how about AFS and Pages (and Lighthouse with WriteNow?)
>>get together and cooperate on some common protocols. Maybe they could
>>be published through OPN. This would make these apps suitable for both
>>general productivity and MCCA.
>
>A while back, someone brought up the idea that tables should be treated
>externally, like EquationBuilder treats equations. That is, the table
>should be edited within this outside app and linked or somehow brought
>into the other app of your choice so that all sorts of editing apps can
>have table functionality.
> [crunched a bit]
>I do like the benefits offered by an external app, but I am still
>skeptical. Therefore, I suggest that table editing should be
>considered when designing these cooperative protocols.
Hmm, I think that the table issue is a different can of worms. IMO, this
should be handled via a mechanism similar in functionality (but hopefully
not as complex or hackish) to OLE2, which allows in-place editing of
objects managed by external apps. I think that such a technology has
to be pushed by NeXT so that all apps can conform to it, although there's
no reason the protocols couldn't originate from the NEXTSTEP
wordprocessing and DTP vendors.
Anyway, I was thinking of an API to allow using a wordprocessor as
a display engine from within some custom app, something like Steve's
demo at last year's NWE.
I think both sorts of capabilities would be useful.
Barry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Barry Friedman | heisenbug: from Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.
Cisco Systems Inc | A bug that disappears or alters its behavior
bfriedman@cisco.com | when one attempts to probe or isolate it.
From: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What comm software are YOU using under NS/i?
Date: 9 Mar 94 11:40:01
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Mar9114001@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
References: <2lgb98$kfc@netnews.upenn.edu>
In-reply-to: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu's message of 7 Mar 1994 22:53:28 GMT
In article <2lgb98$kfc@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
...Kermit works
much better than TeleComm for me, and its FREE, but of course
is a slower file-transfer protocol than zmodem. ..
Sure about this? Ibelieve the newer versions of kermit,
such as 5A-188 are as fast as zmodem, if not faster, as
long as you use large enuff packets to avoid the
overhead due to checking. Perhpas somebody else with
more technical knowledge can fill in.
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
Not posting from the usual node, due to problems.
From: jtod@access1.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cassandra and NS3.2
Date: 9 Mar 1994 02:54:39 GMT
Organization: Wit's End
Message-ID: <2ljdpf$ih4@news1.digex.net>
Summary: Anybody compiled Cassandra for 3.2?
Keywords: Jiro, Cassanrda, NeXTStep, montezuma
I've downloaded the sources for Cassandra from the archives (including the
missing Calculator files) and have attempted a compile. No luck - I'm not a
stunningly successful manipulator of #includes and makefiles. The program
compiles all right (with a bunch of warnings) but when executed quickly
aborts (even in debug mode, it doesn't even get to the "Cassandra being
created" line that Jiro put in)
Is there anyone out there who could save me the trouble and either
a)NeXTMail me a copy of the Cassandra.app files compiled under 3.2, or
b)tell me what is needed to get Cassandra running properly under 3.2?
If you choose the former, I'm sure you could make happy dozens of people in
similiar situations who reaaaaallllllyyy love Cassandra, and are sad not to
have it in 3.2. Just upload it to one of the archives, and we'll all be
eternally grateful.
--
John Todd | Need Job: Can sell NeXTs/cars, fix same| NRA & Pro-Choice
406 Cedar,NW Apt 4| "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
Wshgtn, DC 20012 | Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused
202/726-3806 | jtod@digex.net | Eager, intelligent, meticulous, doomed.
From: drmath@panther.math.oxy.edu. (Vahe Petrossian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica Packages...where can I find them?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 03:23:55 GMT
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles CA 90041 USA.
Message-ID: <2ljfgb$r9b@bengal.oxy.edu>
I am looking for mathematica packages for the Next...
complex analysis, algebraic geometry, and differential geometry.
thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Subject: BackSpace anywhere?
Message-ID: <1994Mar8.223618.18086@ncsu.edu>
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 22:36:18 GMT
I'm having trouble locating a copy of BackSpace that I can download. The
one at sonata has file permissions 000, so nobody can get at it.
If anyone would be so kind as to NeXT Mail me one, or to put it on my
anonymous FTP site, that would be GREAT!
My hostname is: nest.catt.ncsu.edu
Daniel
eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu
--
Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu
eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
From: deguzman@binkley.math.uiuc.edu (Alan DeGuzman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica Packages...where can I find them?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 03:56:42 GMT
Organization: Calculus&Mathematica at UIUC
Message-ID: <2ljhdq$pf8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2ljfgb$r9b@bengal.oxy.edu>
drmath@panther.math.oxy.edu. (Vahe Petrossian) writes:
>I am looking for mathematica packages for the Next...
>complex analysis, algebraic geometry, and differential geometry.
Try ftp-ing to mathsource.wri.com.
>thanks
You're welcome.
--
Alan A. DeGuzman Calvin: "I'm so smart it's almost scary. I guess
Calculus&Mathematica I'm a child progeny."
DISCLAIMER: "The University
can't afford my opinions." Hobbes: "Most children are . . . "
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica Packages...where can I find them?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 03:53:41 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2ljh85$8hm@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <2ljfgb$r9b@bengal.oxy.edu>
In article <2ljfgb$r9b@bengal.oxy.edu> drmath@panther.math.oxy.edu. (Vahe Petrossian) writes:
>
> I am looking for mathematica packages for the Next...
>
>complex analysis, algebraic geometry, and differential geometry.
Send email to mathsource@wri.com with the line
help intro
You will get back mail telling you how to search and access the
mathsource archives.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica Packages...where can I find them?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 03:53:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2ljh7q$k7l@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2ljfgb$r9b@bengal.oxy.edu>
Vahe Petrossian writes
> I am looking for mathematica packages for the Next...
>
> complex analysis, algebraic geometry, and differential geometry.
You don't need to find packages specifically for the NeXT. Mma
packages are identical across all versions. There's a Mma archive
somewhere, but I can't locate its address right now. Anyone?
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BackSpace anywhere?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 03:54:46 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2ljha6$k7u@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Mar8.223618.18086@ncsu.edu>
Daniel C. L'Hommedieu writes
> I'm having trouble locating a copy of BackSpace that I can
> download.
Look on your HD, in NextDeveloper/Demos.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Emacs 19
In-Reply-To: gerti@tms-gmbh.de's message of Tue, 8 Mar 1994 21:12:30 GMT
To: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar8182841@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <BYER.94Mar8110436@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <CMD6ww.Lw@tms-gmbh.de>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:28:41 GMT
In article <CMD6ww.Lw@tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) writes:
After reading so much about its miracle abilities, could someone please
enlighten me, where to find Emacs 19??? Hopefully as FAT binary...
Emacs 19 for NS alpha7 was released to the beta testers today.
Anybody who asks can become a beta tester (yes, that includes even
people who use repeat punctuation in Usenet posts :-) ). Emacs 19 for
NS compiles fine on m68k, i386 and for all I know hp-pa machines.
However, there are no public binaries.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: What comm software are YOU using under NS/i?
In-Reply-To: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp's message of 9 Mar 94 11:40:01
To: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar8225400@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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<KAOKI.94Mar9114001@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 03:53:59 GMT
In article <KAOKI.94Mar9114001@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) writes:
In article <2lgb98$kfc@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
...Kermit works
much better than TeleComm for me, and its FREE, but of course
is a slower file-transfer protocol than zmodem. ..
Sure about this? Ibelieve the newer versions of kermit,
such as 5A-188 are as fast as zmodem, if not faster, as
long as you use large enuff packets to avoid the
overhead due to checking. Perhpas somebody else with
more technical knowledge can fill in.
Zmodem will work within a few percent of the theoretical maximum on
any good connection which I've tried. Kermit regardless of settings
has been consistently slower, on occasion as much as an order of
magnitude. Maybe it is possible to make some versions of Kermit run
as fast as Zmodem but that is not usually the case and it is
impossible to make Kermit run significantly faster than Zmodem. If
you have a choice, use Zmodem.
Carl Edman
From: Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep version of Mosaic???
Date: 9 Mar 1994 04:59:22 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ljl3a$h6o@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2lhf9v$1vs@garuda.csulb.edu>
> Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu>
spake unto the masses:
>
> >MiNUG has a copy of OmniWeb that is functional inside of the NeXT_Archive.
A copy of it was sent to a member of our group, we have it in our archive here at michigan. If you would like a copy, send a message to minug-secretary.general@umic
h.edu.
--
Copyright 1994 Charles M. Dudley Charles.Dudley@umich.edu
NEXTSTEP User 313.493.0574
P. O. Box 130231 Ann Arbor, MI 48113
NeXTmail to: warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
higan. If you would like a copy, send a message to minug-secretary.general@umicsend a message to minug-secretary.general@umich.edu.
--
Copyright 1994 Charles M. Dudley Charles.Dudley@umich.edu
NEXTSTEP User 313.493.0574
P. O. Box 130231 Ann Arbor, MI 48113
NeXTmail to: warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mehta-anand@yale.edu
Subject: Re: Mathematica Packages...where can I find them?
Message-ID: <1994Mar9.053908.27710@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
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Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 05:39:08 GMT
In article <2ljhdq$pf8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> deguzman@binkley.math.uiuc.edu
(Alan DeGuzman) writes:
> drmath@panther.math.oxy.edu. (Vahe Petrossian) writes:
>
> >I am looking for mathematica packages for the Next...
> >complex analysis, algebraic geometry, and differential geometry.
>
> Try ftp-ing to mathsource.wri.com.
Or use gopher and connect to gopher.wri.com. It's the same thing, but
also has links to other Mma gophers and FTP sites.
-Anand
--
==================================================================
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We dance round in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
==================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: How to transfer NeXTMail by floppy disk
Message-ID: <1994Mar8.234529.12325@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <2li4tc$7c9@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:45:29 GMT
szallies@koenig.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Constantin Szallies (PG234)) writes:
>I'm working on a Sparcstation with Internet access --- but I am using
>a NeXT(fip) at home :-)
>How do I transfer NeXTMail to my comp at home?
>I tried the following:
>Saved my Nextmail as 'mbox' and copied it on floppydisk.
>Created a lala.mbox folder at home. Copied the 'mbox' file into that folder.
>When I launch Mail.app, I can read the mail, but its uudecoded!
>How can I make Mail.app notice that its NeXTMail, not normal Unixmail?
What I'm doing (on black hardware) is save the mail in a file, put
it on floppy and then on my NeXT at home open a terminal window and
type:
mail my-user-id < my-mail-file
Then I can read the mailfile using normal Mail.app.
You can experience with all this by sending yourself a message using
Mail.app, then reading it in unix mail and then try to send it back
to yourself for reading in Mail.app.
Success, Willem
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov)
Subject: Tektronix emulator for the NeXT (black)
Message-ID: <1994Mar9.033732.5607@iitmax.iit.edu>
Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News)
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 03:37:32 GMT
Hiya!
Does anyone know of any Tektronix emulators for the
NeXT (black). I need something just a bit less painful to
use than ps4014 :-). Please reply by e-mail.
Thanks
--------------------------------------------------------------
Boyan Boyanov | boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
Department of Physics | boyaboy@karl.iit.edu
Illinois Institute of Technology | BOYABOY@IITVAX (Bitnet)
Chicago, IL 60616 | (312) 567-6833
****** I ain't stupid, just don't know squat 'bout Unix ******
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail delivery over dynamic SLIP connection
Date: 9 Mar 1994 06:13:36 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ljpeg$39t@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2lh3t4$jmg@netnews.upenn.edu>
Joe Panico writes
[]
[]Hi,
[]
[] Is there a way to have mail delivered, over a SLIP connection, to
[]my NeXT machine at home? This is complicated by the fact that IP
[]address from our SLIP serverr are DYNAMICALLY ALLOCATED, do i don't
[]have a permanent IP address. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
[]
[]Joe Panico
[]joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Well, I'm not sure what you mean by not having a permanent IP#. If you mean
that there is no machine you have an account on which has a permanent IP#
then you've got a problem, but if you have an account on
retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (and I just fingered that machine and it's on the
net) then you can have your mail sent there and downloaded automatically by
the SLIPCommander application (right now it's automatic only once per day,
but the NeXT release is supposed to support much more general cron
capabilities). Also, you can fetch mail anytime you are slipped up with
the touch of a button, so I don't find it such a restriction not being able
to have the mail sent right to my machine. If you want more information on
this you can drop me E-mail, or else check out a demo of SC on teh
archives. It's shareware, about $20 for students I think, and well worth
it if you use SLIP.
Hope this helps ---- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs 19
Date: 9 Mar 1994 06:31:16 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Sender: chris@iastate.edu
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References: <BYER.94Mar8110436@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <CMD6ww.Lw@tms-gmbh.de> <CEDMAN.94Mar8182841@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Mar8182841@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote:
>Emacs 19 for NS alpha7 was released to the beta testers today.
>Anybody who asks can become a beta tester (yes, that includes even
>people who use repeat punctuation in Usenet posts :-) ). Emacs 19 for
>NS compiles fine on m68k, i386 and for all I know hp-pa machines.
>However, there are no public binaries.
Where is the source for Emacs 19 then? Please...
Thanks!
> Carl Edman
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How about POP3 MODEM service?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 08:36:16 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2lk1q0$rbh@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2lirqr$nsa@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <2lirqr$nsa@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) writes:
>I've had popper (the POP3 server) working for a while now, so reliably
>that all the Mac users want to dial in from home now. I tried the simple
>approach of just making a new user (pop) with popper as its login shell,
>but popper from the command line just exits soundlessly.
>Has anyone out there hacked the popper source to work on a dialup (tty)
>line?
Better than that. This is what you want:
Anonymous FTP from ftp.qualcomm.com:
mac/eudora/1.4.2/srialpop.shar
-=EPS=-
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From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer)
Subject: HideOnLaunch or HideOnAutoLaunch for Backspace and Locus ?
Message-ID: <1994Mar9.100735.6906@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:07:35 GMT
Hi,
I have Backspace and Locus being launched automatically by the Workspace
(Workspace-default LaunchPaths) everytime I am logging in. But however I am
writing the launch sequence in the default, at least one of the two
Applications comes on visible. How can I make both hidden (under NS 2.1,
you could control that in the Workspace Preferences --- now I have NS 3.2
black)?
Thank you for any replies --- I would prefer getting answers by email, and
will post a summary, if there is any interest.
Sebastian
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Technical University Munich, Germany
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs 19
Date: 9 Mar 1994 09:38:05 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2lk5dt$1mj@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <BYER.94Mar8110436@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <CMD6ww.Lw@tms-gmbh.de> <CEDMAN.94Mar8182841@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2ljqfk$3q7@news.iastate.edu>
chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <CEDMAN.94Mar8182841@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
>Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote:
>
>>Emacs 19 for NS alpha7 was released to the beta testers today.
>>Anybody who asks can become a beta tester (yes, that includes even
>>people who use repeat punctuation in Usenet posts :-) ). Emacs 19 for
>>NS compiles fine on m68k, i386 and for all I know hp-pa machines.
>>However, there are no public binaries.
>
>Where is the source for Emacs 19 then? Please...
>
>Thanks!
>
>> Carl Edman
>
>
>--
>Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
>chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
>twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
You miss the point. Simply reply to to Carl and I'm sure he'd be happy
to add you as a beta tester and consequently reveal the site to you.
--
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"No, what?"
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From: gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Gianfranco Pocecai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica Packages...where can I find them?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 14:15:44 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lklmg$a2j@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
References: <2ljh85$8hm@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
The following anonymous ftp sites have Mathematica notebooks.
Name Numeric address
---- ---------------
ftp.funet.fi 128.214.6.100
mathsource.wri.com 140.177.201.101
yoda.physics.unc.edu 128.109.180.137
otter.stanford.edu 36.21.0.104
sol.bucknell.edu 134.82.11.254
ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu 128.174.20.50
zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu 141.142.20.50
chem.bu.edu 128.197.30.18
euler.eedsp.gatech.edu 130.207.226.7
ftp.cso.uiuc.edu 128.174.5.59
siam.unibe.ch 130.92.66.11
mishna.esys.cwru.edu 129.22.40.23
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it 149.132.2.5
How to use these sites:
From a Unix machine, give command "ftp address" (for example, "ftp
ftp.funet.fi"), and when the FTP program prompts, give username
"anonymous" or "ftp", and your e-mail address as a password.
In addition to Unix tools you can use Macintosh, PC and various other
FTP clients to get the files.
Gianfranco
(the above document was found using gopher!! great, isn't it?!!)
--
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President of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group
University of Milano - Computer Science Department
Via Comelico, 39/41
20135 Milano - Italy
E-mail : gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
From: ed@sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Why doesn't WordPerfect (windows) accept tiff-files from NEXTSTEP
Date: 9 Mar 1994 15:10:22 GMT
Organization: Sogn og Fjordane Ingeniorhogskole
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2lkosu$i6e@due.uninett.no>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@tms-gmbh.de
Subject: Re: video-card-driver
Message-ID: <CME65B.oG@tms-gmbh.de>
Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de
Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <2li8t2$125@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 09:53:34 GMT
In article <2li8t2$125@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) writes:
>
> Can someone tell me why there are no 8 bit color drivers for
NSFI ?
> (Every simple OS supports it) There is 8 bit grayscale
support, would it be so difficult to change
> the color-palette to obtain color ?
> Or are there reasons I don't know about ?
> So it would be possible to have color on low-cost video-cards
> (I'm a student and not all people have money to buy a 2MB
V-RAM card for
> working with NS with 1024 x 768 in color)
>
> Thanks for your help
> Oli
YEs, simple OS with a simple imaging model can do that, but
PostScript works only with direkt color, so if you want colr in
8 bits that would be 2 bit red, 2 bit green, 2 bit blue (the
size of the colorchannels has to be the same) and that would be
a very bad display!
thats the reason it is not available!
But the graphic cards become cheaper...
ciao Hans
From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How about POP3 MODEM service?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 13:44:20 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
Message-ID: <2lkjrk$65o@daffy.ldp.com>
References: <2lirqr$nsa@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In <2lirqr$nsa@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes:
>I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this question.
>
>I've had popper (the POP3 server) working for a while now, so reliably
>that all the Mac users want to dial in from home now. I tried the simple
>approach of just making a new user (pop) with popper as its login shell,
>but popper from the command line just exits soundlessly.
>
>Has anyone out there hacked the popper source to work on a dialup (tty)
>line?
This really sounds like the wrong approach, and one I would expect
most Mac users to rebel against :-). Why not just bite the bullet and
give them dial-up SLIP or PPP? popper works beautifully in that
situation. BTW, there is popper source which adds some timeouts and
other enhancements to the Berkeley code, and can be had from
ftp.qualcomm.com.
--
Rolfe Tessem | Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com | 96 Morton Street
(212) 463-0029 | New York, NY 10014
From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP3 Server on NeXTSTEP
Date: 9 Mar 1994 13:48:17 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
Message-ID: <2lkk31$65o@daffy.ldp.com>
References: <1994Mar1.033214.1161@weston.com> <2l8sk4$nvr@rosie.next.com>
In <2l8sk4$nvr@rosie.next.com>, Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM writes:
>In article <1994Mar1.033214.1161@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
>writes:
>> Does anyone have a POP3 server running under NeXTSTEP? If so, please tell
>> me about it.
>
>I've used both popper and pop3d with good success. There available from
>gatekeeper.dec.com and many other well-stocked ftp servers.
>
> 91.08.15 00:39 58k pub/mail/ua/misc/popper-1.831beta.tar.Z
> 93.02.05 21:59 31k pub/mail/ua/pop/pop3d-r6.tar.Z
We've used popper for a couple of years, and it works great. There is
a version on ftp.qualcomm.com (the Eudora ftp site) which adds some
timeouts and a few other enhancements.
--
Rolfe Tessem | Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com | 96 Morton Street
(212) 463-0029 | New York, NY 10014
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: But I don't want THAT App to give THAT Service!!!!
Date: 9 Mar 1994 10:05:44 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403091605.AA27604@alleg.EDU>
Ok, here's a little perplexing brain teaser.
I have two apps in the same folder (say ~/Apps) both of which offer
the same service (say "Insert Signature" for /Services/Mail). Now I
do want that service to be provided, but I want app #1 to provide it
(because it is running) and NOT app #2 to provide it.
I can't change the name of the service (because I don't have the
source and probably wouldn't know what to do with it if I did) and
then disable one and use the other. Is there a way to set which one
provides the service?
Thanks
Tim
---
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NeXT Mail Welcomed
Box 931 Allegheny College Meadville, PA 16335 USA
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: But I don't want THAT App to give THAT Service!!!!
Date: 09 Mar 1994 17:22:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Mar9092257@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <9403091605.AA27604@alleg.EDU>
In-reply-to: luomat@alleg.EDU's message of 9 Mar 1994 10:05:44 -0600
Can't you use Preferences to disable the service. I don't know if it
would then disable the "correct" service, but I would think so. The
question is whether the other one then becomes visible...
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Message-ID: <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr>
Sender: news@imag.fr
Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France
References: <2ljilj$t2q@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 16:24:37 GMT
> - Munged mcvert to create only the data fork of a MacBinary file
> instead of all resource forks, since this is the only portion
> needed to open these files on a NeXT (this concerns .hqx files)
Does this mean that if you want to get, say, a font which has some part of its
definition in the resource fork, you will not be able to get the file
correctly?
Yves.
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: But I don't want THAT App to give THAT Service!!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 9 Mar 1994 18:38:50 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2ll53q$cfd@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <9403091605.AA27604@alleg.EDU>
: I can't change the name of the service (because I don't have the
: source and probably wouldn't know what to do with it if I did) and
: then disable one and use the other. Is there a way to set which one
: provides the service?
:
Look in Preferences.app
Scroll to the right-hand end, and you'll find Services.
In the Inspector you can disable whichever Services you
don't want.
This is easier to do than to explain!
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell)
Subject: NeXT Color Printer Drivers
Message-ID: <CMEuzn.7D4@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:50:10 GMT
I seem to remember seeing on the net that there were better
printer drivers for the NeXT Color Printer, then those provided by NeXT.
Can anyone poiunt me to them?
harry
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From: dlincke@sgcl1.unisg.ch (David-Michael Lincke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Wanted; SLIP Server for NSI 3.2
Message-ID: <1994Mar9.153816.1580@sgcl1.unisg.ch>
Date: 9 Mar 94 15:38:16 MET
Organization: The VooDoo Club (tm)
Is there a SLIP _Server_ available for NS for Intel 3.2? Shareware or
commercial? Is there a way to use Transys SLIP 1.7beta also as a SLIP server?
Thanks,
David
--
David-Michael Lincke
dlincke@sgcl1.unisg.ch
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Now that there are some real NEXTSTEP wordprocessors...
Date: 9 Mar 1994 20:41:19 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2llc9f$6fr@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2ljbds$hoa@cronkite.cisco.com>
Barry Friedman writes
> Hmm, I think that the table issue is a different can of worms.
> IMO, this should be handled via a mechanism similar in functionality
> (but hopefully not as complex or hackish) to OLE2, which allows
> in-place editing of objects managed by external apps. I think
> that such a technology has to be pushed by NeXT so that all apps
> can conform to it, although there's no reason the protocols
> couldn't originate from the NEXTSTEP wordprocessing and DTP
> vendors.
>
I would like to second this [although live-linked tables aren't bad,
either]. In-place editing is one of the few advantages OLE has over
ObjectLinks. More than just the convenience, it brings about a new
paradigm for thinking about our tools: Docu-centric rather than
App-centric. If NeXT does it right (as they generally do, once they
get around to it :-), this would be way cool.
I believe NeXT is heading this way with Bundles, but they haven't said
anything about it lately. What I *have* heard is that AFS and Athena
Design are talking about doing something to allow that sort of linkage
between PasteUp and Mesa. Mesa isn't exactly what I'd call a table
editor, but I dare say it would serve. :-) I agree this is the sort of
thing that will probably start from a few key vendors, and that might
"force NeXTs hand" to standardize it. Sort of like Improv did with
Help, Links, and C++.
Hmm. Perhaps we should continue this in advocacy...
--
Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics
Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu
"...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b
#import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: mahoney@csulb.edu (Mike Mahoney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp reviews?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 20:44:05 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Message-ID: <2llcel$4l9@garuda.csulb.edu>
References: <CM3o3L.M69@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
I demonstrated WriteUp last night at the SCaN meeting in Santa Monica and found
it to be a solid product with very few rough edges for a 1.0 release. I would
suggest buying it if you need a basic low-cost wordprocessor to write memos,
letters, reports, etc. If you need to write a book or manual, consider
FrameMaker or (maybe) Pages by Pages. WriteUp is definitely worth $99!!
-mike
In article <CM3o3L.M69@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will
Fischer) writes:
> So, what's the word on WriteUp? Could someone who's been able to
> test-drive the release version give us a review? I'm particularly
> interested in how it compares to WriteNow, and wondering what
> features of WriteUp would make it worth my $99 (student) to switch.
> -- Will
> \\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/
>
> Will Fischer In the old time the facts of Nature
> were beautiful in themselves and
> Gradual Student needed not the rouge of speculation
> Department of Biology to quicken their charm, but that was
> Indiana University long ago, before modern science
> Bloomington, Indiana 47401 USA was born.
>
> wfischer@indiana.edu -- William Bateson, 1893
--
Dr. Michael K. Mahoney
Associate Dean, College of Engineering
Chair, Computer Engineering and Computer Science Dept.
SCaN President, So. Calif. NEXTSTEP and OpenStep Users' Group
California State University, Long Beach
Long Beach, CA 90840-8302
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jtainio@hauki.ratol.fi (Jukka Tainio)
Subject: FLI player for NeXT(motorola)
Message-ID: <1994Mar9.203132.7531@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
Organization: Raahe institute of computer technology, Raahe, Finland
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 20:31:32 GMT
Does anybody know where I can find a good FLI/FLC player for Black NeXT?
It would be nice to play 3ds animations with my NeXT..........
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From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka)
Subject: Re: video-card-driver
Message-ID: <CMEzEz.72L@ceco.ceco.com>
Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator)
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co.
References: <CME65B.oG@tms-gmbh.de>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 20:25:47 GMT
In article oG@tms-gmbh.de, hans@tms-gmbh.de writes:
> In article <2li8t2$125@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
> schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) writes:
> >
> > Can someone tell me why there are no 8 bit color drivers for
> NSFI ?
...
> > So it would be possible to have color on low-cost video-cards
> > (I'm a student and not all people have money to buy a 2MB
> V-RAM card for
> > working with NS with 1024 x 768 in color)
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> > Oli
> YEs, simple OS with a simple imaging model can do that, but
> PostScript works only with direkt color, so if you want colr in
> 8 bits that would be 2 bit red, 2 bit green, 2 bit blue (the
> size of the colorchannels has to be the same) and that would be
> a very bad display!
> thats the reason it is not available!
>
> But the graphic cards become cheaper...
>
> ciao Hans
It seems to me that it would still be a win- why should users
have to use 2-bit or 8-bit grey? A total of 64 colors would still
be nicer for many users. I would hope this would allow 2-bit alpha
so that you can reduce the memory needed for keeping transparent
images in the backing store too. [With 2-bit alpha
in the same byte] Lowering the entry point could open the market to
students who can't pay for a high end card now. Anyone who can
afford $2K+ for the regular version can probably buy a new adapter.
For large installations where you could have normal users (not
developers...) sitting in front of the machines, it would also
make the price look better.
Mike Stepniczka
mikes@ceco.ceco.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Subject: Re: BackSpace anywhere?
Message-ID: <1994Mar9.122557.23649@ncsu.edu>
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU
References: <2ljha6$k7u@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 12:25:57 GMT
Stefano Pagiola writes
> Look on your HD, in NextDeveloper/Demos.
I searched the HD before I wrote anything. I also searched many FTP sites.
BackSpace didn't come with NextStep 2.1, so it's not on my HD. Had it
been there, I would not have posted the article. Any other thoughts?
Cheers,
Daniel
--
Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu
eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: teb@blencoe2.chem.ornl.gov
Subject: *Re-Post: NS 3.2 and Mac disk weirdness*
Message-ID: <1994Mar10.012317.25450@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 01:23:17 GMT
This is a *re-post* from 8 Mar 94... e-mail services
are currently down, so please post replies to this
newsgroup. Thank you.
We just upgraded our NeXT hardware to NS 3.2 from
NS 3.0. I have a couple of questions/observations:
(1) Mac-formatted diskettes appear on the browser shelf
with an icon for a Mac-formatted *optical* disk. Same
for DOS diskettes.
(2) In the NS 3.2 release notes, there is a caution
against displaying the contents of Mac-formatted diskettes
in the browser while copying files to or from the diskette.
This could result in a system hang or crash.
I called NeXT software support. The answer to
observation (1) was: "gee, haven't heared of that before."
The recommendation for both (1) and (2) was: "wait for
the next system release... NeXT does not issue software
patches". I was surprised by this response from NeXT
software support. In contrast, hardware technical support
always ranks an A+. Any suggestions or known patches for
these "bugs"? Displaying the wrong icon is no big deal, but
a potential system crash *is*. There are far too many casual -
and careless - users around here.
Thanks,
Tim
Timothy E. Burch phone: 615-574-5034
Chemical and Analytical fax: 615-574-4961
Sciences Division e-mail: teb@blencoe2.chem.ornl.gov
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: xv 3.0 binary for NS/I 3.2 uploaded
Date: 9 Mar 1994 15:19:28 GMT
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2lkpe0$197@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I just uploaded three packages to
ftp.uni-stuttgart.de:/pub/systems/next/i486/X11
- xv 3.0 the ultimate graphics tool
- mxterm xterm with Motif scrollbar
- asedit Motif editor
Source is included in the packages in order not to violate any copyright
restrictions.
The binaries were compiled on NS/I 3.2 with the coXist developer package.
Thanks to Kay Schulz <kay@nagasena.tynet.sub.org> for this submission.
Known problems with xv 3.0:
- only 24 Bit color mode displays correctly
- GRAB function terminates the application mostly with a memory fault error.
I wasn't able to find out the reason for it yet.
Enjoy,
Markus.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
From: smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu (Steven McGrew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Radiance for the NeXT
Date: 10 Mar 1994 01:30:39 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <2llt7v$j3o@pith.uoregon.edu>
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has a copy of Radiance compiled for the NEXT. I
am trying to get it to compile but am having one HELL of a time.
If anyone has the binaries for INTEL machines let me know PLEASE.
I am only needing the rt package.
Thanks.
Steve
smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu (nextmail please)
From: lsf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Lee Finn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: local functions?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Mar 1994 02:23:47 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2lm0bj$693@news.acns.nwu.edu>
gcc permits the nested functions, i.e., functions that are defined within
other functions; however, NeXT cc (which I thought was built on gcc)
apparently does not. At least, when I try to compile code with nested
functions under NS/3.2(black) I get a syntax error. Am I correct in
concluding that this C extension has been removed by NeXT?
If the nested function extension has been removed I will have to bring over
gcc-2.5.8. Are there any gotcha's associated with compiling gcc-2.5.8 on
NS/3.2(black)?
Thanks,
L. S. Finn
/* Nested functions permit lexical scoping: a function nested within
* another function has access to all of the variables of its parent. This
* makes nested functions a very valuable programming construct.
*/
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Date: 10 Mar 1994 05:37:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lmbls$bkh@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr>
In article <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) writes:
>> - Munged mcvert to create only the data fork of a MacBinary file
>> instead of all resource forks, since this is the only portion
>> needed to open these files on a NeXT (this concerns .hqx files)
>
>Does this mean that if you want to get, say, a font which has some part of its
>definition in the resource fork, you will not be able to get the file
>correctly?
I am the one who did that munging.
Is this true that Mac font files may contain some essential info in
the resource fork without any equivalent info in the data fork?
That sounds pretty brain-dead to me.
The munging made it possible to open Mac WordPerfect files sent
with BinHex encoding directly on my NeXT. BinHex'ed Mac MS Word
files could also be opened fine using MS Word for Windoes, once
de-binhexed using the new version of Opener, and sent to the PC via
FTP.
I believe that NeXT's Mac filesystem for reading Mac floppies and
mounting LocalTalk file servers also work by presenting only the
data fork in the Browser.
Anyway, it won't be hard to modify mcvert to write out both data
and resource forks to separate files, if you need access to the
resource fork. That would be a nice feature, so please do it.
--
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Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
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Subject: patch
Message-ID: <1994Mar10.005917.693@news.wesleyan.edu>
From: jlipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Jim Lipton)
Date: 10 Mar 94 00:59:16 -0400
Sender: lipton@allegory (Jim Lipton)
Distribution: world
upgrading emacs19 requires downloading a 6MB file, a delicate operation
with a modem (even with zmodem). I understand that with the "patch" program
i would be able to use a <100kb diffs file instead. How do I get a NSI-3.2
compatible patch program?
Thanks.
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From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Date: 10 Mar 1994 06:25:47 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lmehb$6kj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2lmbls$bkh@agate.berkeley.edu>
Izumi Ohzawa writes
> Anyway, it won't be hard to modify mcvert to write out both data
> and resource forks to separate files, if you need access to the
> resource fork. That would be a nice feature, so please do it.
I'd personally like to see this. I see the point that if you're
going to use the files under NeXTSTEP all you need is the data fork
(usually). But I also use Opener a lot on files I ftp from Mac
archive sites, to use under Executor or on my PowerBook. For that
purpose, the option of having both forks would be very useful.
Having said that, I'm not a programmer so I can't volunteer to do it
:-)
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Postgres / Shared Memory Package
Message-ID: <CMFEuD.AzB@Happy-Man.com>
Date: 10 Mar 94 01:59:00 GMT
References: <CM4185.DIp@Happy-Man.com>
Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399
Summary of responses:
In <CM4185.DIp@Happy-Man.com> I <Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com> wrote:
>I recall someone having offered an implementation of System V-style
>shared memory and a port of Postgres that this made possible, but I
>can no longer find any reference to either.
1. Several people told me that the producer of both these
packages is:
Gerben Wierda [NEXTSTEP RD242] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
I've read his information and pricing and it all looks
reasonable, so contact him if you also have an interest in one
or the other.
2. Someone -- I seem to have lost his mail, unfortunately
-- said that Postgres 4.2 should be coming out soon and will
support Nextstep. I have not been able to confirm this and
Gerben Wierda is unaware of it. He suspected that it may run
under Nextstep only with his SysV IPC package, but is not sure.
Thanks, Net-People!
Regards,
- Irving
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Date: 10 Mar 1994 08:15:13 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2lmkuh$rqo@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr> <2lmbls$bkh@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <2lmbls$bkh@agate.berkeley.edu>u
izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>I believe that NeXT's Mac filesystem for reading Mac floppies and
>mounting LocalTalk file servers also work by presenting only the
>data fork in the Browser.
Opening filename.#rsrc# gives you the resource fork. Even
though it doesn't appear in directory listings its
contents are still accessible.
-=EPS=-
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dots problem
Date: 10 Mar 1994 10:31:36 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <2lmpdo$2im@maud.ifi.uio.no>
Keywords: Dots
When I print out a multipage doc. through Dots to my
HP-DJ500C, the last line of some pages sometimes gets
corupted. It seems like it happens when there is text
close to the bottom of the page (though it doesn't look
very close, 1-2 cm).
My paper is A4 so I use A4 format, but other formats fail
to.
I have tried to use the scaledown (zoomdown or whatever
you call it) with no success.
Short singlepage printouts goes well.
Another problem is that some printouts (like screengrab)
gets blown up far beyond the size of the sheet.
How do I avoid this ?
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From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Message-ID: <1994Mar10.083810.909@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Sender: willers@itp10 (Moritz Willers)
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
References: <2ljilj$t2q@digifix.digifix.com> <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 08:38:10 GMT
In article <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr>, arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) writes:
|> > - Munged mcvert to create only the data fork of a MacBinary file
|> > instead of all resource forks, since this is the only portion
|> > needed to open these files on a NeXT (this concerns .hqx files)
|>
|> Does this mean that if you want to get, say, a font which has some part of its
|> definition in the resource fork, you will not be able to get the file
|> correctly?
|>
|> Yves.
Yes, and BTW the font has all information in the resource fork. The data fork is
of no interest at all.
For me the data fork is in many cases of no interest. So please add a preference
item to Opener.app v3.1.3 where you can check which parts should be extracted
from the *.hqx file.
--
Moritz Willers
Institut fuer theoretische Physik, Bern
email: willers@butp.unibe.ch
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From: leene@nex002 (Arnaud Leene)
Subject: Problem with TransSysPNI-1.7Beta
Message-ID: <1994Mar10.090507.14738@news.research.ptt.nl>
Sender: usenet@news.research.ptt.nl (USEnet News)
Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 09:05:07 GMT
Hello
I am trying to get SLIP working. I am using the TransSys PNI 1.7 Beta
version.
I am already so far that it logs into the server and sets up a
SLIP-connection. I am able to ping to the server and beyond (both by using
a number or a name). I can also do a simple finger.
If I however try to do something more complicated, such as ftp or 'finger
@server' things stop and nothing happens anymore. I already checked the
MTU parameter with the SLIP-provider. Is there something else I am
forgetting? Can there be a problem with HostManager? Or ...?
Thanks,
Arnaud
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Subject: cancel <CM4185.DIp@Happy-Man.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 01:59:07 GMT
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From: ranilla@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es (Ranilla Pastor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted recording resources for sound and video
Message-ID: <1994Mar10.110619.90@polar>
Date: 10 Mar 94 11:06:19 +0100
Organization: Universidad de Oviedo
Hello, we have got a NeXT (not a turbo one) with NeXT Dimension
card. Now, we are interested in using this expensive hardware
to produce multimedia material. In special we would like to be
able to record sound from a DAT in 44 MHz and to record video
images with a good quality.
So, our questions are:
1) Do we need some additional hardware devices?
2) Which software is neccesary
2.1) with our present hardware configuration?
2.2) with the additional one (from question 1)?
Thank'you in advance to all our readers.
PD: Best way to reply to me is email
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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Disappointing experiences with 4-bit Palette Color TIFF
Date: 10 Mar 1994 10:28:11 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2lmsnr$3s5@nic-nac.CSU.net>
I'm working with some MS-DOS software that stores images as EGA
"screen grabs"; in plain English, this means a 4-bit index into a
2-2-2 color map.
So I wrote a simple program to convert these images to
[big endian] TIFF--adding the "obvious" tags (preserving the
original data to the extent possible)--and made certain my files
conformed to both TIFF 5.0 (which introduced palette color into
the TIFF spec) and TIFF 6.0 (which I believe to be current).
Then I made three test images. tiffutil -verboseinfo for the
first looks like:
Directory at 0x8
Subfile Type: (0 = 0x0)
Image Width: 60 Image Length: 22
Resolution: 72, 55.799999
Resolution Unit: pixels/inch
Bits/Sample: 4
Compression Scheme: none
Photometric Interpretation: palette color (RGB from colormap)
Samples/Pixel: 1
Rows/Strip: 22
Number of Strips: 1
Strips (Offset, ByteCount):
294, 660
Planar Configuration: Not planar
Color Map:
0: 0 0 0
1: 0 0 43690
2: 0 43690 0
3: 0 43690 43690
4: 43690 0 0
5: 43690 0 43690
6: 43690 21845 0
7: 43690 43690 43690
8: 21845 21845 21845
9: 21845 21845 65535
10: 21845 65535 21845
11: 21845 65535 65535
12: 65535 21845 21845
13: 65535 21845 65535
14: 65535 65535 21845
15: 65535 65535 65535
The second image (176x159) has two strips, the third (640x114)
has five (this exercises all the cases). Note that I'm not doing
anything "weird" here--I fully expected these to be highly
portable files.
[Using a NeXTstation Color with 32MB RAM]
The AppKit wouldn't touch any of them.
(Note that 8-bit palette color is documented to work!)
ImageViewer 0.9i also refused to open them.
I then FTP'd two demos from cs.orst.edu. A big "thumbs down"
for TIFFany, which threw up correctly-sized windows for each
image--but completely BLACK inside. Pixel Magician, on the
other hand, did exactly the right thing for all three images.
However, it spent a disturbing amount of time displaying a
spinning cursor--even when I wasn't having it "do anything."
I don't know what it was up to, but it couldn't have been
good.
Just for the hell of it, I copied my three test images to a
Macintosh, and fed them to three programs obtained from
mac.archive.umich.edu:
NIH Image 1.52 (freeware; public domain)
Would only open the first image; displayed with the wrong
colors. Refused the other two, saying it doesn't support
TIFF images with multiple strips.
GIFconverter 2.37 (shareware)
Opened the first and third images and displayed them correctly;
claimed to hit premature EOF on the second. Tsk, tsk.
(Hint: two SHORTs fit in four bytes.)
GraphicConverter 1.771(US) (shareware)
Opened all three images and displayed them correctly.
What can I say? I'm flabbergasted.
-=EPS=-
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now (Why 1.9 MEG)?
Date: 10 Mar 1994 08:34:26 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2lmm2i$13c@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2ljilj$t2q@digifix.digifix.com> <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr>
If source is included with this archive then next time please include
a separate source archive. There is no reason why anybody would need
both the MAB and the entire source. It's currently 1.9 MEG or there
abouts I think which is too large for most people do d/l.
--
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From: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: But I don't want THAT App to give THAT Service!!!!
Message-ID: <1994Mar10.101839.16746@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
Organization: University of Oulu
References: <2ll53q$cfd@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 10:18:39 GMT
In article <2ll53q$cfd@hippo.shef.ac.uk> ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M
Crawford) writes:
> : I can't change the name of the service (because I don't have the
> : source and probably wouldn't know what to do with it if I did) and
> : then disable one and use the other. Is there a way to set which one
> : provides the service?
> :
> Look in Preferences.app
> Scroll to the right-hand end, and you'll find Services.
> In the Inspector you can disable whichever Services you
> don't want.
Don't all the Services controls work solely on the menu name? So
disabling service X will disable X for all applications. What the
poster wanted was to select which of several apps responds to X,
or to disable X for a particular app. I can't ever remember seeing
the name service name appearing more than once in the Preference
module's list.
What I think is necessary is that each app that provides X supplies
its own option to disable X *by not registering that service*.
Unfortunately, I think that requires dynamic services.
Come to think of it, do the docs state anywhere what controls which
app responds to a service when more than one use the same menu
name? Can it be controlled, for example, by reordering your
ApplicationLaunchPaths?
--
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: 2IDE's+1 SCSI-mainly solved
Message-ID: <CMG4zr.Dxp@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 11:23:49 GMT
Recently I posted a request for help as I had added an internal SCSI drive
to an IDE only PC and did not want to boot from the SCSI in NS. This seemed
to cause an incredible number of problems.
I'd like to thank all those people, andthere were a lot, who helped me with
this issue. It's one more reason why using NS is such an enjoyable experience.
In any case, the short answer lies in the file fstab, which lives in /etc.
This file must be edited in order to tell NS that a SCSI drive has been
added ( it would be nice for the OS to do this!). Otherwise, ownership of the
drive keeps changing, the drive becomes corrupt, etc...
So the original file had
/dev/hd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
This deals with the NS IDE. The file as it comes is read only! So I changed it
to rw by root ( otherwise if you make a mistake the NeXT will hang during
booting and you have to edit the file from the monitor, and it's a pain if
you keep the file as read only).
For the internal SCSI drive, you must add the line
/dev/sd0a /name of drive 4.3 rw,noquota 0 1
The name of the drive is whatever you call it. Note that noauto is not in this
line, and must not be.
This solved the SCSI problem. I can now create user accounts on the SCSI
drive, etc...I am still booting from the IDE drive and the system files are
on the IDE.
One last issue: I have 2 DOS partitions. I, say par1, is 10megs and has the
boot selector(OS-BS 1.35- this gives you a nicer boot selector than NS's, and
it lives in the same small space). The other DOS partition, say par2, is the
whole of the second IDE. This partition appears to come and go as it pleases.
It is 340megs, so I don't know if that's the problem. par1 always gets mounted.
par2 may get mounted, but if I log out and in it disappears. So I issued the
command mount -p when I was in root and the partitions were all mounted. This
will give the correct syntax for the fstab entry. So in fstab I placed
/dev/rhd0h /par1 dos filesystem=DOS,fixed,rw 1 2
/dev/rhd1h /par2 dos filesystem=DOS,fixed,rw 1 2
This did not work! Still the same odd behaviour with par2.
Finally, I have a CD-ROM (external Apple300) attached to an Adaptec 1542CF.
When on, the system would barely function. The most likely problem there is
that NS needs a better SCSI cable than does DOS/Windows. This has been reported
by others.
In any case I really appreciate the time people took to supply me with the
solution. I would also urge NeXT to automate the adding of peripherals, so
that one need not be a Unix administrator in order to run the nicest system
I have ever used.
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: erik@rat.se (Erik Heimdahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Opener.app_3.1.2_FAT
Date: 10 Mar 1994 07:11:02 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University
Sender: root@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <9403101131.AA00323@_rat.se>
I tried to get this app from the appropriate site through an ftp-mail
service, but is tends to get corrupt all the time.
If anyone have the app (the author perhaps), please NeXT-Mail it to
me and I would be very happy.
/erik
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Improv - Saving graphs - bug
Message-ID: <1994Mar9.121903.17722@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: 9 Mar 94 12:19:03 GMT
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
I am temporarily news impaired. I can post but my feed is out. Since I
do not know when news will begin to flow again, I would appreciate it if
you would mail any solutions to venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us. Thank you.
Now for the problem. I do a lot of graphing in Improv (1.0 on a NeXT).
I notice that much too frequently saving the spreadsheet loses the
graphs. I have watched this at the command line level and what seems to
happen is changes are put in a new spreadsheet named xxx~.imp. When you
save the sheet, xxx~.imp is copied to xxx.imp. Unfortunately, the
graphs don't always make it. I have had to resort to saving the sheet
and copying the graphs to a safe place before exiting. This is not a
very satisfactory solution.
Does anybody know of a guaranteed safe series of steps to save and exit
an Improv spreadsheet without losing the graphs?
--
Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320
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From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson)
Subject: Re: WriteUp reviews?
Message-ID: <1994Mar10.031512.4735@mrk.com>
Sender: jerald@mrk.com
References: <2llcel$4l9@garuda.csulb.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 03:15:12 GMT
In article <2llcel$4l9@garuda.csulb.edu> mahoney@csulb.edu (Mike Mahoney)
writes:
> I demonstrated WriteUp last night at the SCaN meeting in Santa Monica and
> found it to be a solid product with very few rough edges for a 1.0 release.
> I would suggest buying it if you need a basic low-cost wordprocessor to write
> memos, letters, reports, etc. If you need to write a book or manual,
> consider FrameMaker or (maybe) Pages by Pages. WriteUp is definitely
> worth $99!!
> -mike
>
>
>[munch]
I was one of the beta testers for this product and found it to be a solid app
even in beta testing. I tried to use it in what I thought would be the way a
person would use it for just light letter/memo writing, kind of tried to think
like an end user so to speak. I thought the interface was well thought out and
easy to grasp. I'm also very excited about the Igor product.
I give it two thumbs up.
Good work Greg, Michial, et al... :-)
ps. this was just my $0.02.
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fax - (708) 526-3635|disbelieves is sinful and tyranical" Thomas Jefferson
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener.app_3.1.2_FAT
Date: 10 Mar 1994 07:22:11 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403101323.AA06089@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
> I tried to get this app from the appropriate site through
> an ftp-mail service, but is tends to get corrupt all the
> time. If anyone have the app (the author perhaps), please
> NeXT-Mail it to me and I would be very happy.
>
I can send it to you if you want.
(Hint -- in future it's usually better to ask for anybody willing to
send you a copy to let you know, then choose one person: this way you
could avoid being sent, say, 20 copies of a 2MB file... :-)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs 19 for NS, where?
Date: 10 Mar 1994 14:39:02 GMT
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
Message-ID: <2lnbe6$q8j@news1.digex.net>
Anyone know how to get hold of the beta of Emacs 19 for NS?
Thanks,
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From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille)
Subject: New demo of Cub'X-Window (X11R5) on cs.orst.edu ! + all the complete benchmarks
Message-ID: <CMGI3v.DKK@cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:07:07 GMT
Hi fellows !
I put on cs.orst.edu the last demo version of Cub'X-Window, the most optimized
implementation of X11R5 for NeXT computers and PCs running NEXTSTEP. You'll
find the files in /pub/next/XNeXT.
The files of the demos are :
demo for NeXT computers : CubXWindowDemoBlack44.tar
demo for PCs running NEXTSTEP : CubXWindowDemoWhite44.tar
If you want to get all the informations about Cub'X-Window, including all the
MIT's benchmarks, just ftp the files :
CubXWindowBenchANDInfos.tar.gz.README.rtf
CubXWindowBenchANDInfos.tar.gz
Best regards,
- Eric
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that the future is not what it
used to be." - Paul Valery
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From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Grabing with Grabber
Date: 10 Mar 1994 16:28:47 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
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References: <2lmpdo$2im@maud.ifi.uio.no>
Keywords: Dots
I have been having extensive difficulties grabbing scanned tiff
images. The prob is this. I am scanning in at 300dpi pulling
into iconedit cutting and pastin.. the problem is that the
cut cuts the screen image (just like the grab probram) 92dpi
and looks like shit scaled. Is there anyway around this? Grabbing
an image at 92dpi is completly unacceptable for image processing
applications and... I'm frustrated!
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From: mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: More PS fonts for Black Hardware?
Date: 10 Mar 1994 16:47:39 GMT
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2lnivb$jgo@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
Keywords: PostScript, fonts, NeXT
I'm looking for additional fonts for my slab. Who sells these (better still,
are there any ftp sites with PS fonts?) and where can I find them? Presently,
I just have the standard fonts used in NS 3.0.
Thanks,
Steve mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp reviews?
Date: 10 Mar 1994 16:30:39 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
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References: <1994Mar10.031512.4735@mrk.com>
In article <1994Mar10.031512.4735@mrk.com> jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson)
writes:
>I was one of the beta testers for this product and found it to be a solid
app
>even in beta testing. I tried to use it in what I thought would be the
way a
>person would use it for just light letter/memo writing, kind of tried to
think
>like an end user so to speak. I thought the interface was well thought
out and
>easy to grasp. I'm also very excited about the Igor product.
>
>I give it two thumbs up.
>
>Good work Greg, Michial, et al... :-)
>
>ps. this was just my $0.02.
>
>--
>jerald dawson*Systems Manager / Head Programmer*Investor's Advantage
>NeXTmail-jerald@mrk.com |"To compel a man to furnish contributions of
>phone - (708) 487-3221|money for the propogation of opinions which he
>fax - (708) 526-3635|disbelieves is sinful and tyranical" Thomas
Jefferson
-----------------------------
Well, today I received my copy of WriteUp. Installation was
a breeze (as is always the case with NeXT software).
The interface is clean although it behaves in new and slightly different
ways from what I am used to on MS Word (that might be a plus :-)
Applying styles by dragging the icon over the paragraph was
quite intuitive, but actually defining the attributes of the style
was not. I couldn't find a text box telling me what I have set so far.
Graphics: There isn't a graphic "frame" around the graphic that would
allow for a surrounding white space. (only an offset in all four
directions. If the width of the graphic is
less than the width of the text, you will get text on either side of the
graphic. There is no way you can have text wrapping only above and below
the graphic without having it on the sides. Horizontally resizing the
graphic (distortion) is the only way to do that or you should create a
graphic with the needed white space as part of it. I consider that
cumbersome, but for 1.0 it is expected.
I like the zoom feature, but if you zoom more than 100% the colors seem to
dissapear.
The Page number indicator at the bottom seems flaky, it dissapears
in some cases and one time showed "3 of 3" on a one page document!!
Text can go into a "never-never land" if you insert a page break,
click approx. where it is (the page break, that is) and start typing.
You kind of do "blind typing" and you see garbage dots on the upper
margin. If you delete the page break, all the text that was hidden in
"never-never" land shows up. Weird behavior!!!
Importing RTF: Their release notes state "WriteUp does not crash when
it encounters horrible RTF." Well, this is not true. I gave it a
truly horrible one page RTF file that Edit could open and display
although the text was all badly formatted and WriteNow could not
even open, but WriteUp crashed with an unexpected signal: 10. Never
say never in computing!!
I can NOT believe there are no footnotes/endnotes. This should be
*BASIC* even WriteNow has those!!!
What happens if the source of a linked-in graphic is deleted? The
App does not crash, but it reports an imaging error. Graceful, but
the option should be a dialog box:
The source of a linked object is about to die, would you like to:
(1) salvage/convert to a copy or (2) remove it.
I could not link-in other WriteUp documents. Dragging over the open
document did nothing. I still have to find out more about this.
Dragging in an EPS file does not create a link to the original, just
a copy of it (Not sure on this one).
I *LOVED* their vertical Ruler. I guess a carry over from PasteUp.
I *LOVED* their "limited edition" (personally signed) user manual.
Good luck with future versions.
The Igor services menu still did not show up after I followed
all the instructions in the Release Notes.
That is all for now. These are first impressions and some might
be my fault for not taking the time to find out how things
work. In any case, WriteUp is a typical 1.0 release, quirks,
missing features, GREAT potential. I still can not give up
Executor/MS Word to go native.
Is it worth $99 (Academic): Almost. In no way more than that.
However, if enough early adopters buy it. AFS will have an
incentive to improve it. Don't let it go the WordPerfect way.
I have no affiliation with AFS. WriteUp is the only piece
of software I bought from them. I was not a beta tester
although I feel like one now ;-)
--
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2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: john@babies.bsd.uchicago.edu (John Lodder)
Subject: MindShare Mail
Message-ID: <1994Mar10.172805.29721@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 17:28:05 GMT
Are folks out there familiar with MindShare Mail from Pangea? Is it
Mime compatible? Can it send attachments to non-NeXT mail readers?
Much curiosity, especially on the issue of sending attachments
to people who don't have NeXTMail and aren't comfortable with uuencode
& uudecode.
email responses, NeXT & otherwise, welcome.
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"Oh to be in England now that April's there" --WS
My opinions probably belong somewhere......
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <kroll@walnut.SFSU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 08:38:36 PST
From: kroll@walnut.SFSU.EDU (Lawrence Kroll)
Message-ID: <9403101638.AA01859@kumquat.SFSU.EDU>
Subject: label maker
Still unable to find a software driver for my
MAC label maker.
Any suggestions?
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Spell-Checking in WriteUp
Date: 10 Mar 1994 17:17:39 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
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Spell-checking in WriteUp is quite buggy:
. The Find Next button does not work at all.
. The Replace and Find does not work either.
The list of mis-spelled words is in alphabetical
order and not in the order it appears in the text.
This is quite confusing.
Suppose you mis-spelled the word "endless" by writing
it as "endles". Spell checking will correct it to
"endless", but the mis-spelled word is still in the
list. If you re-correct it by mistake, it will find the
sub-phrase "endles" in the correct "endless" and add yet another "s"
resulting in "endlesss". And you can keep doing that multiple
times!!! This is an un-acceptable compunding of errors.
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: More PS fonts for Black Hardware?
In-Reply-To: mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca's message of 10 Mar 1994 16:47:39 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Mar10120051@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <2lnivb$jgo@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:00:51 GMT
Steve McCullagh writes:
Steve> I'm looking for additional fonts for my slab. Who sells these
Steve> (better still, are there any ftp sites with PS fonts?) and where can
Steve> I find them? Presently, I just have the standard fonts used in NS
Steve> 3.0.
Contact info@trilithon.com. They are now the Adobe Authorized Reseller for
fonts for NEXTSTEP.
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1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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From: davisp@cua.edu (Peter W. Davis)
Subject: Listserv, WWW for NextStep
Message-ID: <davisp.3.000E2D78@cua.edu>
Keywords: listserv, www
Sender: news@news.cua.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Catholic Unviversity - Columbus School of Law
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:10:33 GMT
Is there any NextStep software out there for setting up a listserv and WWW server?
We have one 486 running NextStep and are just getting started. Thanks.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
/// Peter W. Davis Network Administrator ///
/// Catholic University Columbus School of Law ///
/// Washington, D.C. davisp@cua.edu ///
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From: mwa@ife.ee.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NS 3.2/I and putenv()
Date: 10 Mar 1994 22:44:02 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Elektronik, ETH Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <2lo7ri$fup@elna.ethz.ch>
References: <2kvube$pgg@marble.Britain.EU.net> <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Mar2115138@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
In article <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Mar2115138@shrug.dur.ac.uk>,
Scott A. McIntyre <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>strdup()
This one you can easily get around by adding
"-Dstrdup=NXCopyStringBuffer" to the CFLAGS definition in the Makefile.
-Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: Anyone have Pages yet?
Message-ID: <CMH1z4.9t@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 23:16:14 GMT
If anyone out there has Pages, could you post a review of this product.
Is it as good as the reviews say it is?
Brad Wright
wwright@shell.portal.com
wwright@premisys.com
From: mwa@ife.ee.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scene_movies
Date: 10 Mar 1994 22:57:40 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Elektronik, ETH Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <2lo8l4$g2b@elna.ethz.ch>
References: <9403042030.AA12466@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
In article <9403042030.AA12466@dcs.shef.ac.uk>,
Malcolm Crawford <M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> wrote:
>Umm, not quite -- the most fun ones, eagle and fish, don't work.
>Anyone any idea where the "run" command is defined?
I've just merged the "run" files into the main file at the location
they were called, which creates a 510KB file (gzip -9 makes 60KB of
them). I play it with "gzat fish.eps.gz | pft". This gives a short
startup delay but saves space on the disk. I've also changed the delay
to make it swim smoother.
-Marcel
From: mgilula@inca.gate.net (Marshall Gilula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer defaults
Date: 10 Mar 1994 19:07:49 -0500
Message-ID: <2locol$tei@inca.gate.net>
Help. I cannot get NewsGrazer.app to open as ordinary
user but as root the app does open and function. I have
preferences set to flat-file (vs. nntp server) but when
I type dread and attempt to see defaults, this is what
happens
computer is named "gerilla":
gerilla> dread /mgilula2/Apps/NewsGrazer.app
dread: couldn't read default
gerilla> ls -lg /mgilula2/Apps/NewsGrazer.app
total 218
drwxr-xr-x 12 mgilula other 2048 Mar 6 23:08 English.lproj/
-rwxr-xr-x 1 mgilula other 212992 Mar 10 18:12 NewsGrazer*
gerilla>
Would anyone be willing to send me the relevant syntax
for either resetting the NG defaults at the ordinary
user level or for resetting the individual charcteristic
if someone writing in to me is a NG guru.
-73-
Marshall Gilula
mgilula@inca.gate.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: NewsGrazer v75 and 72.3 bug
Message-ID: <CMH49x.94o@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 00:05:56 GMT
Summary: NewsGrazer versions 75 and 72.3 running on NEXTSTEP 3.0 on
a NeXTstation TurboColor is crashing when certain newsgroups
are read. (currently comp.sys.next.misc) It appears to be
associated with the sort articles and prefetch title options.
Details: To get my NewsGrazer to crash, the following conditions need to
exist:
1) the Preferences/Article Summary/Prefetch article title
is checked
2) the Preferences/Article Summary/Sort articles box is checked
3) All the articles is comp.sys.next.misc have all been
prefetched before I look at the news group
Obviously there is some article or situation currently with
comp.sys.next.misc on my local usenet server which is causing my
NewsGrazer to crash.
If I am in the newsgroup when the articles are not already prefetched
and sorted (e.g., if I go to that newsgroup first before the article
title are found, or if I go to csnm with one of the above preferences
turned off and then turn it on once I am in there), then it works
fine. However, once the group's titles are fetched and sorted, if
I leave the group and return, NewsGrazer will once again crash.
I am currently trying to find if one particular article is causing
the problem. I will keep you posted.
Todd Heberlein heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Naive DBModeller question
Date: 10 Mar 1994 21:45:46 GMT
Organization: WHU Koblenz
Message-ID: <2lo4ea$4dd@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de>
References: <1994Mar7.110226.27752@zoo.bt.co.uk>
In article <1994Mar7.110226.27752@zoo.bt.co.uk> gah@zoo.bt.co.uk (Geoff
Hopson) writes:
> database, and so tried to run DBModeller to build up the data model.
However,
> when I attempt to "choose entities", the returned browser is blank! This
is
> the case against the scott/tiger database too.
>
> Why does an existing DBModel (OracleDemo) work, when I cannot contruct a
> DBModel from scratch?
do you access a V7 database? If so, tell your DB admins to install the V6
catalogs, the OracleAdaptor needs them (e.g. AccessibleTable or so), if
they are missing, you get exactly the results you mentioned!
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From: jauderho@umich.edu (Jauder Ho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Regarding OmniWeb
Date: 11 Mar 1994 02:19:28 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, High Energy Spin Phyics
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lokfg$4uf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Originator: jauderho@terence.ccs.itd.umich.edu
Hello all. I am minug-sercretary.general@umich.edu I have been
totally overwhelmed y requests for Omniweb. I have a Chaos exam and a
paper due tomorrow so I do no have the time to mail the prog out.
I would like people to hold off e-mailing me till at least Sat. and I
will be doing a batch mailing so just be patient. Till then have a nice day.
--Jauder
P.S. Those of you who has access to AFS just cd to
/afs/umich.edu/group/lsa/minug to look at the NeXT archive. OmniWeb can
be found there. Also you can take a look at
/afs/umich.edu/user/j/a/jauderho/Fun for fun stuff although I would like
you to e-mail me at jauderho@umich.edu after doing so so that I will know
if you liked it.
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From: schwett@differencengine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Accessing fonts on my HP 4/Postscript
Date: 10 Mar 94 19:43:45
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <schwett.94Mar10194345@differencengine>
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This may belong in comp.sys.next.somewhere_else,
but here it is.
I've got a LaserJet IV with the Postscript SIMM
(essentially a 4M) and 10 megs of RAM.
My problem is that I can't use any of the fonts on it.
It prints just fine using the PS fonts that came with
NeXTStep, but I would very much like to be able to
use the resident fonts.
Do I need screen equivalents to do this?
Do I need to muck with a PPD file?
Help!
Mark Schwettmann
please E-Mail to schwett@netcom.com
Thanks in Advance...
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good Word Processor for NS/i?
Date: 11 Mar 1994 04:06:42 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2loqoi$k9q@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2lebme$ovr@inxs.concert.net>
In article <2lebme$ovr@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm
Shift, Inc.) (*****ME*****) writes:
> ...Pages may ship in two weeks however most users will find (and it is not
> their intent) that Pages will hardly be usable as any kind of text
> processor.
My statement above was based on playing with a much earlier beta as well as
with a discussion with a sales rep who is no longer employed by Pages.
The concept of how Pages functions from creating things like simple letters on
up was explained to me today by the Channel Manager for Pages and, as I was
incorrect about what I perceived Pages to be, I am now firmly inserting foot in
open mouth. Apologies to the folks at Pages for mistating it's usage!
I will have that product tomorrow for an excellent workout before our first
show on Saturday in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Dave Briggman
--
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A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax]
NeXTMail/MIME Mail Welcomed info@paradigm-shift.com
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Accessing fonts on my HP 4/Postscript
Date: 11 Mar 1994 04:34:35 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2loscr$kpc@inxs.concert.net>
References: <schwett.94Mar10194345@differencengine>
In article <schwett.94Mar10194345@differencengine> schwett@differencengine
writes:
> This may belong in comp.sys.next.somewhere_else,
> but here it is.
>
> I've got a LaserJet IV with the Postscript SIMM
> (essentially a 4M) and 10 megs of RAM.
>
> My problem is that I can't use any of the fonts on it.
>
> It prints just fine using the PS fonts that came with
> NeXTStep, but I would very much like to be able to
> use the resident fonts.
>
> Do I need screen equivalents to do this?
> Do I need to muck with a PPD file?
>
Actually, Mark I believe you need the actual font outlines installed on your
system. It's called the Adobe Plus pack and will give you the balance of the 39
typefaces found in a majority of PostScript printers.
Dave
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From: edwardtl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Travis L Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BackSpace anywhere?
Date: 10 Mar 1994 21:22:25 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2lo32h$1bm@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <1994Mar9.122557.23649@ncsu.edu>
In article <1994Mar9.122557.23649@ncsu.edu> eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C.
L'Hommedieu) writes:
> Stefano Pagiola writes
> > Look on your HD, in NextDeveloper/Demos.
>
> I searched the HD before I wrote anything. I also searched many FTP
sites.
> BackSpace didn't come with NextStep 2.1, so it's not on my HD. Had it
> been there, I would not have posted the article. Any other thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel
> --
> Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu
> eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
If you have access to the InterNet you can get BackSpace.app from just
about any University which utilizes NextStep.
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: tcsh
In-Reply-To: Robert Singleton's message of Tue, 8 Mar 1994 17:38:53 -0400
To: Robert Singleton <bobs@PTH3.BU.EDU>
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar10104253@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Originator: news@nimaster
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Organization: Princeton University
References: <9403082138.AA00359@pth3.bu.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 15:42:52 GMT
In article <9403082138.AA00359@pth3.bu.edu> Robert Singleton <bobs@PTH3.BU.EDU> writes:
Where can I get a copy of tcsh for the NeXT? (NeXTSTep 3.1)
Thanks very much.
bob singleton
p.s. I'm running zsh right now and am having a few problems with
it. I tried to remake it but my system doesn't want to do
this - certain libraries can no longer be found. I thought
I would just go with the more standard tcsh instead.
Tcsh is not standard. It is a well intentioned but unfortunately
doomed-to-fail attempt to make a reasonable shell out of csh. Zsh is
compatible with sh, ksh, bash, pdksh and virtually every other non-csh
shell on the planet. It has all the features of tcsh and more. You
can find zsh2.4pl300 in ftp.sterling.com:/zsh. Just run buildzsh and
it will configure and compile on a NS 3.[12] system automatically.
Carl Edman
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: patch
In-Reply-To: jlipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu's message of 10 Mar 94 00:59:16 -0400
To: jlipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Jim Lipton)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar10110235@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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References: <1994Mar10.005917.693@news.wesleyan.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:02:35 GMT
In article <1994Mar10.005917.693@news.wesleyan.edu> jlipton@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Jim Lipton) writes:
upgrading emacs19 requires downloading a 6MB file, a delicate operation
with a modem (even with zmodem). I understand that with the "patch" program
i would be able to use a <100kb diffs file instead. How do I get a NSI-3.2
compatible patch program?
Ftp to prep.ai.mit.edu:pub/gnu, get patch-2.1.tar.gz and compile it.
Carl Edman
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: label maker
Date: 11 Mar 1994 07:02:29 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2lp525$pfj@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <9403101638.AA01859@kumquat.SFSU.EDU>
In article <9403101638.AA01859@kumquat.SFSU.EDU>
kroll@walnut.SFSU.EDU (Lawrence Kroll) writes:
>Still unable to find a software driver for my
>MAC label maker.
>Any suggestions?
Walk down the hall and ask your resident interoperability expert. :-)
-=EPS=-
From: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Color Panel Behavior?
Date: 11 Mar 1994 08:23:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <2lp9qt$7sv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Hello all!
I noticed that one corner of the color well in the Color Panel get "clipped"
off when I move the sliders in the CMYK mode. Even the chips of color I drag
out have the upper right corner clipped off. Anybody know what this is for? I'm
running 3.2 on Intel hardware if that make a difference. This doesn't happen on
my 2.1 cube, though..
--
Alvin Jee
e-mail: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb
Date: 11 Mar 1994 08:22:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2lp9o4$mr6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
OmniWeb (the WWW app) can be found in ftp.omnigroup.com. Perhaps Omni has
not yet announced this since it is still a pre-release version...From what
I've seen so far, the app is excellent though not yet fully stable. Many
thanks to Omni (and I hope the ftp traffic on ftp.omnigroup.com doesn't
get out of control).
-jamey.
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From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Octave Fixed Yet
Message-ID: <1994Mar11.072429.3076@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 07:24:29 GMT
Two weeks ago or so there was an announcement that Octave v1.0 was
released. It was precompiled for NeXT OS 3.2 black. But it had
problems communicating via pipes. For example, there was no paging
of long displays. More importantly, it wouldn't communicate with
GNUPLOT. Has this been fixed yet? Is this fixed version available
for ftp anywhere?
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: jdeclari@is.rpslmc.edu (John-William DeClaris)
Subject: Software for HP Scan Jet IIc
Message-ID: <1994Mar11.135708.28078@rpslmc.edu>
Sender: news@rpslmc.edu
Organization: Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:57:08 GMT
Hello,
We have an HP Scan Jet IIc scanner that is presently attached to a Dell
running NeXTStep 3.2. We would like to try some software to use, if anybody
knows of a software vendor that sells scanning software to be used on an HP
please send me some e-mail and let me know about the product. We called GS
Corp, but they do not support the HP scanner. Thanks.
--
John-William DeClaris
All comments made by me are mine and not reflective of RUSH
Live each day as if it were your last, because someday it will be.
"How can we avoid these unanticipated problems?" A Co-Worker's Concern
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What Object Oriented databases work on NeXT?
Date: 11 Mar 1994 11:54:06 -0600
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <2lqb7u$dpo@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
I'm curious what object oriented databases are out there for Next,
both commercial or free. For example, I plan to look into OBST.
I'd be interested if anyone has ported this to NeXT already.
This might be a FAQ. If you send e-mail, I'll summarize after a
few days.
--
Randy Kunkee
Houston, TX
713-870-1334
kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
From: danders@carn3.alleg.edu (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC on black hardware
Date: 9 Mar 1994 16:20:43 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lkt0r$al6@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <2l89o6$h44@news.hanover.edu>
In article <2l89o6$h44@news.hanover.edu> binger@hanover.edu (David Binger)
writes:
> Does Turbo Pascal work under SoftPC on black hardware?
>
> David Binger
> binger@hanover.edu
Our CS department has been running Turbo Pascal under SoftPC on black
hardware for several years.
David Anderson
allegheny college
danders@alleg.edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 11 Mar 94 19:51:45 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
WriteUp review. Bear in mind I havent been using this very long, but I thought
it might help some one...
COOL STUFF
- Vertical Ruler - even though it does nothing, as far as I can tell,
its nice to have there. Its the first app since LisaWrite that I can
rememberer having this feature. Hopefully in the future you'll be
able to do stuff with it, like vertical taps, etc.....
- Page boundaries - set with cool light blue rule lines.
- Multiple views - of the same document. This is a great feature. Its
done i WriteUp by making a whole new window.
- Graphics support - both inline and page bound graphics, and text
will flow around the graphic. Plus you can layer the graphics and
text, kinda like a drawing program (send to front, back etc..)
- Character sets - cool panel, never have to try to remember the right
alt-key combination to get that copyright symbol again.
- Drag N Drop - not just drag and drop colors, but paragraph styles.
Cool and easy, set up a paragraph the way ya like it, add it to the
para styles panel and name it. Afterward, just drag and drop the para
chicklet and boom it works.
- Bullet support - if you do lots of business memos and had a lame
time of setting up good looking bullets, then those worries are over.
- Clean interface - its not bloat-ware and it looks to embody what the
ideal (in my humble opinion) word processor should be. Before this, it
was MacWrite II (which is a zillion years old) which was my most favor
ite word processor, because it was simple and did everything a nice
clean word processor should.
- Fast - It seems faster on my NDturbo than on my PC. It gets a bit
bogged down when a paragraph gets really long. But overall it feels
OK.
PROMISING STUFF
- Igor - this should let us import export to a zillion different for
mats. Unfortunately, right now the WriteNow import only works on
black hardware.
- Spell checker - its not the standard spell check panel. It can find
all the misspellings in a document at one time. But it needs some
work. For example if you find all mistakes, and 'para' is a mistake,
if you tell it to find the next error it may flag the para in para
graph. Otherwise if you use find next, it works just like any other
spell panel. It can also learn words, no big deal, but it lets you
edit your learned words dictionary, which is really nice. I always
used to wonder what words I added to my WriteNow dictionary.
BOGUS STUFF
-It doesn't have great tab support. It has the general tabs like on
any text object and thats it. I guess the only thing I would like
more is support for repeating tabs (i.e. every .245 inches) and sup
port for a fill character between tabs. Also it doesn't do right jus
tified, centered and character centered tabs.
> ......................>
tab1 fill char tab2
- NO UNDERLINE!!!!
Man, I thought after WriteNow 1.0 I would never again see a word pro
cessor without underlines. Worse yet, if you import stuff in with
underlines, the import has no underlines.... This is a serious draw
back...
- Also, no other cool font stylings. I personally rarely if ever use
these styles, but sometimes they come in quite handy: SmallCaps, Stri
kethru, double underline, Outline, Shadow, and redline. These should
be included because when importing from other wordprocessors like
WordPerfect and Word, You'll want the imported doc to look like the
original.
- No mail merge. I rarely if ever use this, but its a good thing to be
able to do form letters. WriteNow can even do this.
- Window positions are not saved. No big deal, but its annoying. Wri
teNow does this. And so should WriteUp.
- It would be nice to have a stats panel, that would count words, para
graphs, characters, longest word length, etc.
- There is no 'show space/markers' view. This is important to have.
- No Footnotes. Anyone doing anykind of academic paper needs
footnotes.
- Selections are a bit quirkey sometimes. Doing a shift select and copy
didn't work all the time (I cant explain it better than that, although maybe
I was doing something wrong).
Welp, all and all its a good start, but some serious holes exist. To
me, most serious are the ommission of footnotes and underlining. Its
promissing and better than WordPerfect, in my opinion, for doing gen
eral duty stuff.
Hope that helps,
Later, John
From: danders@carn3.alleg.edu (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Statistical software - SAS, SPSS etc?
Date: 9 Mar 1994 16:25:46 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2lktaa$am3@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <2le0vpINNn9n@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
In article <2le0vpINNn9n@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> kickaha@math.lsa.umich.edu
(Brian Boonstra) writes:
>
> My wife and I will be spending a semester in Paris next fall, and
she
> needs to do her research on my NeXT. She does demography, so that
> means statistical manipulation of a HUGE data file distilled from the
> '90 census.
>
> What stat packages are out there for the NeXT? Are they
> stable? I'm specifically interested in SPSS and SAS, but I'd like to
> know about others, too. Thanks.
> --
>
> Brian K. Boonstra (313) 936-0075 kickaha@umich.edu
>
> "My strength is as the strength of ten because my code is pure."
There is a version of SAS for the NeXT. It works but it does not use a
NeXT interface. SPSS is not available for the NeXT and as I understand
it, never will!
What kind of analyses do you need? You may want to look at StatTools
which is available from the ftp site at Allegheny College. It will run as
much data as you can put into Improv. Check out the README file for a list
of the procedures available.
David Anderson
Allegheny College
danders@alleg.edu
From: premise@pindar.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Sean Michael Willson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: g++ compiler for 3.0
Date: 11 Mar 1994 20:54:09 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2lqlph$aal@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Does anyone know of a c++ compiler for NeXTSTEP version 3.0 on the black
HW? I would like to get my hands on some if possible. If I can get it
via ftp or such please help. Thanks alot (in advance)! ; )
Sean
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <CMIwM0.Fo7@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 23:15:35 GMT
In article <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
[Review of WriteUp...]
>- No Footnotes. Anyone doing anykind of academic paper needs
>footnotes.
Hmm...the journals I try to publish in these days do not allow footnotes. They
stopped this years ago.
[ ]
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
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Subject: Character Encoding
From: tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1.5101.2592.0N27BFAC@satalink.com>
References: <2lades$3ok@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 10:32:00 -0640
Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434
In article <BYER.94Mar4105303@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) (SB>) writes:
> NEXTSTEP, by default, uses it's own "character encoding",
> (/NextStepEncoding). In /systemdict, there is also a
> pre-defined encoding (/ISOLatin1Encoding) which is the
> ISO-8859-1 encoding.
I posted several questions during the last month which involved NeXTstep
support for UNICODE, but got no replies. I am wondering if, in the
context of this discussion on "Character Encoding", someone who knows
about these things might say a few words regarding NS and UNICODE.
To what extent does NS support UNICODE? How can applications, e.g. a
database application, take advantage of this support?
There was notice of a "Chinese font" a while back -- was that
implemented using UNICODE, or are these just "glyphs"?
I am an utter novice about these things, so anything you post will be
illuminating!
Thanks.
Tim Romano TEL: (610) 543-2222
Swarthmore Pennsylvania EMAIL: tim.romano@satalink.com
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From: calderd@nic.ott.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP of NeXSTEP for Intel
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 00:26:54 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <calderd.2.2D810C4C@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Summary: Where is SLIP of Intel
Keywords: intel,slip
Hi,
I am looking for a version of SLIP to run on NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel. Could
someone tell me where I can FTP it from.
Richard Lacelle
From: mgrlhc@manager (Lans H. Carstensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does anyone have a recent gnuplot compiled?
Date: 11 Mar 1994 22:16:38 GMT
Organization: Waters Computing Center at Rose-Hulman Institute of Tech.
Message-ID: <2lqqk6$mvj@bacchus.Rose-Hulman.Edu>
Subject heading says it, mostly. I just tried to compile gnuplot 3.5 after
doing a normal-ish ./configure and make. It really had some problems.
I'd like to just get a normal X11 gnuplot so that I can use Octave,
a MATLAB-like clone.
--
Lans Carstensen
carstelh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
RHIT Class of 1995
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From: drebnord@betenoir.syr.edu (David A. Rebnord)
Subject: Re: Octave Fixed Yet? (A:a partial yes)
Message-ID: <1994Mar11.170652.4015@newstand.syr.edu>
Keywords: octave
Sender: netnews@newstand.syr.edu (Network News Administrator)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, New York
References: <1994Mar11.072429.3076@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 17:06:52 GMT
In article <1994Mar11.072429.3076@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> raptor!rlove
(Robert B. Love ) writes:
> Two weeks ago or so there was an announcement that Octave v1.0 was
> released. It was precompiled for NeXT OS 3.2 black. But it had
> problems communicating via pipes. For example, there was no paging
> of long displays. More importantly, it wouldn't communicate with
> GNUPLOT. Has this been fixed yet? Is this fixed version available
> for ftp anywhere?
The problems with the pipe to gnuplot have apparently been fixed.
However there remain problems with communicating with a shell from
within octave and these have not yet been resolved. An updated binary
is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.che.utexas.edu (the official
site) and also from betenoir.syr.edu.
The binary was compiled under NEXTSTEP 3.2 black.
For people compiling from source you might be interested to know that
the plotting problems in the earlier binary were caused by bugs in
libg++-2.5.3 and not by octave. My thanks to John Arthur Kassebaum
<jak@phoenix.NAWC-AD-INDY.NAVY.MIL> for providing the needed patches to
libg++-2.5.3 to get plotting to work. I can e-mail the patches to
anyone who is interested or you can wait for the next release of
libg++.
--
Dave Rebnord | drebnord@betenoir.syr.edu (NeXTmail)
Dept. of Mathematics | (315) 443-1585 (voice)
Syracuse University | (315) 443-1475 (fax)
Syracuse NY 13244-1150 |
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Commercial SLIP
Message-ID: <CMJ2n0.Kpy@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 01:25:48 GMT
Is there a commercial version of SLIP, which is user friendly (i.e. plug
and play- no TCP/IP knowledge necessary!)?
Oh, this is for NS/I...
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Statistical software - SAS, SPSS etc?
Date: 12 Mar 1994 02:02:33 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2lr7rp$psu@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <2le0vpINNn9n@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <2lktaa$am3@mustang.alleg.edu>
Dave Anderson (danders@carn3.alleg.edu) wrote:
: In article <2le0vpINNn9n@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> kickaha@math.lsa.umich.edu
: (Brian Boonstra) writes:
: >
: > My wife and I will be spending a semester in Paris next fall, and
: she
: > needs to do her research on my NeXT. She does demography, so that
: > means statistical manipulation of a HUGE data file distilled from the
: > '90 census.
: >
: > What stat packages are out there for the NeXT? Are they
: > stable? I'm specifically interested in SPSS and SAS, but I'd like to
: > know about others, too. Thanks.
: > --
: >
: > Brian K. Boonstra (313) 936-0075 kickaha@umich.edu
: >
: > "My strength is as the strength of ten because my code is pure."
: There is a version of SAS for the NeXT. It works but it does not use a
: NeXT interface. SPSS is not available for the NeXT and as I understand
: it, never will!
: What kind of analyses do you need? You may want to look at StatTools
: which is available from the ftp site at Allegheny College. It will run as
: much data as you can put into Improv. Check out the README file for a list
: of the procedures available.
S+ is available for NEXTSTEP. Much nicer than SAS IMHO.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Is filtering broken for PNI on NS/FIP?
Message-ID: <1994Mar12.035805.696@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 94 03:58:05 GMT
I need some help. No matter what I do with PNI on my Intel P/GX running
3.2, PNI will not correctly filter incoming/outgoing packets. Has
anyone had success with filtering?
No matter what the INPUT_ACT_INTERVAL or OUTPUT_ACT_INTERVAL, PNI
insists on severing the connection with 5 to 15 minutes of inactivity
-- or sometimes during activity (ftp transfers for example). The only
activity which keeps the connection up seems to be interaction in a
login shell on a remote machine. Here is the pnistat -v output:
pni0: (pid 702) running since Mar 11 1994 09:44:32 (44 seconds)
Encapsulated Decapsulated
Type Encap state Bufs Bytes Bufs Bytes
PNI* pni phase2 1 64 0 0
SLIP* slip phase2 1 32 0 0
VJ TCP Hdr comp: 0 uncomp/0 comp 0 uncomp/0 comp
TTY* tty phase2 1 35 0 0
FILTER* filter phase2 0 0 0 0
Idle time: 1262 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 45 minutes, 16 seconds
Input idle drop in -763436716 seconds
Output idle drop in -763436716 seconds
Note that the idle time and timeouts are ridiculous values. Here is my
complete pni0.config file (with some info x'ed out):
## PART I.
set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0
set Config(pni:MTU) 1006
set Config(pni:ADDRESS) xxx.xxx.xx.xx
set Config(pni:REMOTEADDRESS) xxx.xxx.xx.xx
set Config(pni:NETWORKMASK) 255.255.255.0
set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 1
set Config(slip:MODE) slip
set Config(filter:INPUTFILTER) {
}
set Config(filter:INPUTFILTER_RPCS) {
nfs netinfobind
}
set Config(filter:OUTPUTFILTER) {
}
set Config(filter:OUTPUTFILTER_RPCS) {
}
set Config(filter:INPUT_ACT_INTERVAL) 7200
set Config(filter:INPUT_ACT_FILTER) \
{ port uucp or port smtp or port telnet or port login or port shell or port ftp }
set Config(filter:OUTPUT_ACT_INTERVAL) 7200
set Config(filter:OUTPUT_ACT_FILTER) \
{ port uucp or port smtp or port telnet or port login or port shell or port ftp }
set Config(tty:DEVICE) /dev/cufa
set Config(tty:SPEED) 38400
set Config(tty:MODEMTYPE) zyxel
set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) unix
set Config(tty:SERVERNAME) TybrinHSVSlip
set Config(tty:NUMBER) xxx-xxxx
set Config(TybrinHSVSlip:DIALTYPE) TONE
set Config(TybrinHSVSlip:SECRETFILE) /etc/pni/config/password.pni0
# PART II.
stack PNI pni
stack SLIP slip
stack TTY tty
stack FILTER filter
# PART III.
proc LINK_start { encap } {
log "LINK $encap connected"
}
proc LINK_stop { encap } {
log "LINK $encap disconnected"
}
Can someone please help me??? I'm tired of futzing with this. I've
sent mail to TransSys.com and received no reply. I'm beginning to
suspect the filtering is busted.
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.next-l,comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: zsh
In-Reply-To: David Richards's message of Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:20:54 -0500
To: David Richards <richards@IGOR.MUSIC.QC.EDU>
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar11144851@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 19:48:51 GMT
In article <9403110220.AA08820@igor.music.qc.edu> David Richards <richards@IGOR.MUSIC.QC.EDU> writes:
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert Singleton <bobs@PTH3.BU.EDU> writes:
Robert> I'm trying to make zsh on my NeXT (NS3.1). I get the
Robert> following error after trying to make the program:
Robert> ...... ..... sed -n
Robert> '/\/\*\*\/$/{N;s/^\([^(]*\).*\/\*\*\/.\(.*\)/\1
Robert> DCLPROTO((\2))/p;}' zle_word.c | sed -e 's/;/,/g' -e
Robert> 's/,))$/));/' -e 's/(({))$/((void));/'
>> zle_word.pro
Robert> cc -O -c builtin.c cc -O -c cond.c cc -O -c exec.c
Robert> exec.c:312: undefined type, found `DIR' exec.c:343:
Robert> undefined type, found `DIR' exec.c:1613: undefined type,
Robert> found `DIR' *** Exit 1 Stop.
Robert> Any suggestions? I couldn't find anything about this in
Robert> the README
Robert> file. Thanks very much.
Robert> bob singleton
Yes, Make sure that <sys/dir.h> is included. Thats where struct _dirdesc
is typedef as DIR.
You are also running a very old version (as can be seen from the
explicit sed expressions which I put in there a long time ago which
were moved to separate files almost as long ago). Zsh2.4pl300 was put
out Mar 9 on ftp.sterling.com:pub/next and auto-configures and makes on
systems running NS 3.2 (and almost certainly systems running 3.1).
Strangely enough manually adding the -O2 option (which is not
necessary to create a working executable) shaves a 100 kBytes off the
executable.
Carl Edman
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 12 Mar 94 05:16:35 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.763449395@uiuc.edu>
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <CMIwM0.Fo7@utstat.toronto.edu>
Philip McDunnough writes:
>Hmm...the journals I try to publish in these days do not allow footnotes. They
>stopped this years ago.
I think it's quite common to see them in high-school or college-level
papers (I know I see them a lot). Also, endnotes are common. I
wouldn't consider a word processor complete if it didn't have these
capabilities. Auto-numbered footnotes are even nicer; if the work is
going to be put into doing them at all, I say do 'em right [and to
allow flexible auto-numbering, support could be added for handling
auto-incrementing numbers and/or letters and roman numerals).
While I'm here, here are some other features (someone) should consider
for either products that work with word processors or a bundle to
become part of a word processor:
* Outlining (MS Word [does the latest WordPerfect and Ami Pro? I've
not seen them yet] has it) -- this is another feature that could use
the aforementioned auto-number work.
* Tables (every popular word processor I've come across has tables) If
there's not going to be right, left and center justification tab
support, tables can do the same thing (assuming that within a cell one
can have right, left and center justification).
* Some tab-alignment or tool to make decimals align vertically
according to the placement of the decimal (be it a comma, period or
some other symbol) (again, it's popular)
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Fournier_Rene@pcp.ca (Rene Fournier)
Subject: 3D apps--any ideas?
Message-ID: <1994Mar9.203237.20797@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 20:32:37 GMT
Hello!
I'm in the midst of evaluating 3D graphics and animation software and
welcome any opinions any of you can provide on what's 'out there.'
Basically, I'd be interested in knowing what kind of software and hardware
you use (make, model, price, &c), how you like 'it' (or don't :-), and how
you think 'it' compares to other applications and computers you've used.
Right now, the future looks red for me. I'm quite excited about the
upcoming Power Macintoshes (great price, fantastic performance). Also,
StudioPro looks very good and Strata says it will ship a native PPC601
version as soon as Apple ships their beloved PowerMacs (middle of March).
Animation Master, which is the 'pro' version of Playmation, looks
hot--it's 100% based on spline-patches, does ray-tracing full-time,
supports inverse kinematics, skin, spline-based time channels, and
zillions of other things (unfortunately, I've never used it). As for the
Video Toaster 4000, I think it's a fantastic buy and what I've seen of
LightWave is pretty good, but I have no desire to 'do' video
production-type work, so all that extra stuff is useless to me. Also,
Commodore's financial shape concerns me.
My background:
At work, I use NEXTSTEP (not for animation, though) and absolutely love
it--it's easily the best OS shipping today, state-of-the-art in every
respect. Unfortunately, though several excellent modellers are available
(each interfacing to RenderMan, which is built into NEXTSTEP (like Display
PostScript)), no animation apps are yet shipping. At home, I've used 3D
Studio R2 part-time on my crummy PC, and, in short, hate it. It's slow,
it's featureless, and its interface sucks badly.
Anyway, if any of you can share your 3D graphics and animation
experiences, I'd greatly appreciate it (also, please reply by e-mail to
both addresses as my Internet access is shakey). Thanks again.
..Rene
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Rene Fournier | fournier@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (ASCII only, please)
| fournier_rene@pcp.ca (NeXTmail okay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flash!jon@myxa.com
Subject: .dir.tiff tip
Message-ID: <CMJEn8.8v@dsinc!flash>
Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry)
Organization: Who Needs It?
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 05:45:07 GMT
Don't use a big tiff file for your .dir.tiff.
Workspace will resize it to 48x48 so that it looks right, but Workspace will
slow down tremendously. 'Remove' -ing files puts you into spinnyland for a few
moments.
I was using a rendered 24bit rgba file, about 256k, LZW compressed. Looked
cool, since prman makes the background transparent automatically, but whoa was
it slow.
Changing it back to the default sped things up considerably. Duh.
Just a tip for anyone with a custom .dir.tiff whose Workspace gets slooowwwww.
--
Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Statistical software - SAS, SPSS etc?
Message-ID: <CMJKy4.8GB@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <2le0vpINNn9n@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <2lktaa$am3@mustang.alleg.edu> <2lr7rp$psu@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 08:01:15 GMT
In article <2lr7rp$psu@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
[Regarding stat packages, or lack of, for the NeXT...]
>S+ is available for NEXTSTEP. Much nicer than SAS IMHO.
Hmm...is this still the case, as the company was purchased by the MathSoft
people ( they market MathCad for the PC and Maple amongst other things)?
There is, for black NeXT's at least, xlisp-stat. A colleague gave a graduate
course based on Luc Tierny's book, and the results ( and some of the projects)
were quite impressive.
SAS is good for consulting, standard problems. S/S+ is far more of a research
tool, and is certainly more powerful than SAS, SPSS, Systat,etc...but isn't
really meant as a general tool. In any case it only ran under X on the NeXT.
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: wjs@omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Disregarding OmniWeb
Date: 12 Mar 1994 00:07:11 -0800
Organization: The Omni Group
Message-ID: <2lrt7f$3j3@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2lokfg$4uf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Jauder Ho writes:
> Hello all. I am minug-sercretary.general@umich.edu I have been
>totally overwhelmed y requests for Omniweb. I have a Chaos exam and a
>paper due tomorrow so I do no have the time to mail the prog out.
>I would like people to hold off e-mailing me till at least Sat. and I
>will be doing a batch mailing so just be patient. Till then have a nice day.
I would prefer it if people would not redistribute OmniWeb right now.
We would like our site to be the only source, so that everyone will
get updated quickly as OmniWeb develops. Also, I want to limit
the distribution to people who are interested in helping us find
and fix the bugs, not to people who want a general-use WWW browser,
as the latter category will be disappointed with OmniWeb right now.
Thanks,
-Wil Shipley
President, Omni Development, Inc.
ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software
From: wjs@omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 12 Mar 1994 00:15:01 -0800
Organization: The Omni Group
Message-ID: <2lrtm5$3ku@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2lp9o4$mr6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
James Nielsen writes:
>OmniWeb (the WWW app) can be found in ftp.omnigroup.com. Perhaps Omni has
>not yet announced this since it is still a pre-release version...From what
>I've seen so far, the app is excellent though not yet fully stable. Many
>thanks to Omni (and I hope the ftp traffic on ftp.omnigroup.com doesn't
>get out of control).
We haven't been announcing it very loudly because it isn't finished yet,
and I know I personally hate it when people dump very early beta copies
of apps on the archive sites and get everyone all excited and then it
turns out the app is kind of cool but largely unusable, and then even
if the app ever does become usable everyone is so burnt from the first
version that they figure the new version bites as well and they never
give it a chance.
Thus, we're trying to keep the initial beta-test group to people who
actually want to beta-test, and not to people who want a usable program.
We'll announce it loud and long when it's usable, don't worry. Excess
humility isn't our problem here.
-Wil
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer can't find nntp server
Date: 12 Mar 1994 12:46:03 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lsdib$ous@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I downloaded NewsGrazer75 (FAT) from cs.orst.edu onto my machine at home.
This machine is connected to University throught TransSys PNI (SLIP).
I have entered the IP address of the Universities nntp server
(128.91.200.1) in the Grazers preference panel, but when it starts
up I get the following error message:
Can't locate nntp server machine *128.91.200.1: P please change your Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.
But I CAN telnet directly to that address from my NeXT without any problems.
Any clues?
Thanks
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: best POP3 client for NSI 3.2?
Date: 12 Mar 1994 13:08:37 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lsesl$qi6@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Sorry I missed this thread earlier. What is the best POP3 client
available right now? I downloaded PopOver from cs.orst.edu-- is
that the way to go? Does NeXTmail get popped correctly? All
views appreciated. Thanks
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 12 Mar 1994 15:42:48 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2lsnto$1sc@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <CMIwM0.Fo7@utstat.toronto.edu>
In article <CMIwM0.Fo7@utstat.toronto.edu>,
Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote:
>In article <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>[Review of WriteUp...]
>
>>- No Footnotes. Anyone doing anykind of academic paper needs
>>footnotes.
>
>Hmm...the journals I try to publish in these days do not allow footnotes. They
>stopped this years ago.
>
>[ ]
>
I was FLABBERGASTED that WriteUp did not do footnotes!
I stupidly assumed this feature was a given on any word
processor. Sigh. :-(
Robert de Lucca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: piro@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Oreste Piro)
Subject: How do I configure a SPORTSTER 14400 Fax Modem?
Message-ID: <1994Mar12.094500.4274@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
References: <2kiasaEsnq@uni-erlangen.de>
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 09:45:00 GMT
I am trying to install an USRobotics SPORTSTER 14400 Fax Modem on
a 030 cube running 3.0. It works fine in data mode, but I cant
make it work in FAX mode. Print manager only seems to know about
HSD and Interfax modems. What can I do to make it talk to the
Sportster?
Please e-mail me the answers to piro@obelix.uib.es (NeXTMail)
Thanks in advance.
Oreste Piro
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Statistical software - SAS, SPSS etc?
Date: 12 Mar 1994 19:04:27 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
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References: <CMJKy4.8GB@utstat.toronto.edu>
And then there is TSP:
TSP Version 4.2B
(06/09/93) NS/I f2c 6MB
Copyright (C) 1993 TSP International
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
3/12/94 10:59AM
In case of questions or problems, see your local TSP
consultant or send a description of the problem and the
associated TSP output to:
TSP International
P.O. Box 61015, Station A
Palo Alto, CA 94306
USA
competent of handling 60MB data input, sophisticated econometric modeling,
123 file import, etc. Great program! (It is more similar to SAS than it is
to S+ in philosophy.)
Now, all we need is Gauss.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: S-PLUS and other stat apps Was Re: Statistical software -etc
Date: 12 Mar 1994 20:47:01 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2lt9o5$md4@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <2lt3ns$ea8@news.mic.ucla.edu>
From over on comp.sys.next.software
Discussion of what software packages similar to SPSS or SAS are available
for NEXTSTEP:
In article <2lt3ns$ea8@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
>
> And then there is TSP:
> Now, all we need is Gauss.
>
I havn't heard anything about TSP, are there demos available on the
archive sites?
What happened to Gauss? I had heard it was about to be released about the
time black h/w died. Is it still alive?
Re: S PLUS, I spoke with their sales person for Fla. and he told me they
didnt have immediate plans to make their newest version (3.2) available
for NEXTSTEP. However, he wasnt aware of the HP-NeXT partnership focused
toward Wall Street and he also wasn't aware of the port to SPARC and
Openstep. He seemed pretty excited about this. Especially since the
reason S-PLUS was ported to run on Motorola architecture (although as an
app running under X) was because Swiss Bank had asked them to. Maybe
SWISS BANK and some of the other financial trading people could ask them
to write a NEXTSTEP interface for version 3.2 of S-PLUS (which is what
they were about to do when Black h/w died) so the rest of us who need it
for scientific, engineering and business apps could benefit.
Any comments from the Bankers and Traders?
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: tshores@unlinfo.unl.edu (thomas shores)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Date program
Date: 12 Mar 1994 21:21:38 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <2ltbp2$qpc@crcnis1.unl.edu>
NeXT used to include a really great demo software program in the
NeXTStep OS package called "Date" by Brian Yamamoto. But it isn't
included in NeXTStep 3.x. I would really like to use it on white
hardware running 3.2. Does anyone know if it still exists (or went
commercial)? If not, does anyone have suggestions for a public domain
or (reasonably inexpensive) commericial calendar program?
Thanks,
Tom Shores
From: gl4201@emunix.emich.edu (STiMPY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Spreadsheet for NS/FIP ???
Date: 12 Mar 1994 21:59:14 GMT
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Message-ID: <2ltdvi$4fp@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <2ltbp2$qpc@crcnis1.unl.edu>
I am looking for a spreadsheet to run with NS/FIP.
Of course I would prefer a free no-frills one, but I wouldn't
maide paying a little for a simple spreadsheet program, I don't need
a ton of features, I just want to do simple stuff.
any ideas?
I heard of datafile, but I have no info on it.
thanx
gary
--
=================================================
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stimpy@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us
If you're not running NeXTstep, you're WRONG!
=================================================
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 12 Mar 1994 16:18:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403122218.AA11262@cantina.lanl.gov>
Adding a few extra thoughts to John Kheit's nice review...
1. I am not happy with sub- and superscripts, but there are
ways to handle them in the present version.
Just to be perfectly clear about how I think one _ought_
to type sub- and superscripted material, here are the
five keystroke characters I'd _like_ to use to type
"water":
"H", "<cmd-\>, "2", "<cmd-0>", "O"
where the "<cmd-0>" is the (as-yet--undefined)
key-equivalent to Unscript. And, of course, the "O" comes
out in the same font and size as the "H". [I'm assuming
that "<cmd-0>" is not already used somewhere else in the
App. One could use "<cmd-/>" to undo the subscripting, but
there really are times when one wants a superscript on a
subscript.] Please note: no going to the mouse, all hands
on the main keyboard.
WriteUp can't do it that way, at least not in the present
version.
To be fair, I don't know of any other word processing
program that does it this way, either. Of course, TeX
does allow you a lot of flexibility with supers and subs,
all hands on the keyboard, but then that requires that
you learn some TeX or LaTeX. I consider this no big deal
-- even physicists can learn it -- but some people do seem
to object.
2. EquationBuilder and the WriteUp baseline support look
very good, the wee bit I've tried it.
3. There's a new emacs-binding that I know I've been missing
for lo! these many NeXT years: <ctl-T> does what it ought
to (namely, transpose two characters).
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: SUMMARY: adding default applications
Message-ID: <1994Mar12.145803.5710@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 14:58:03 GMT
Hi,
Couple of days ago I asked how to add applications to the
Tools Inspector. I got a few answers, with all the same
comment: it is not possible. The application it self has
to do that.
That was all, Willem
--
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: 3D CAD software to generate .rib models
Message-ID: <1994Mar12.150304.6017@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 15:03:04 GMT
Hi render(wo)men,
After having hard-coded some 3D models in .rib files or by using
RI-calls in C code, I wondered if there are 3D CAD appliations
available that can generate .rib files for later rendering. It
doesn't have to be something very fancy, but just placing some
boxes, spheres, cylinders, disks, etc. should be possible.
Who knows of any PD or ShareWare software and where it is
available?
Willem
--
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: POP3 client behaviours?
Date: 12 Mar 1994 23:49:42 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ltkem$9o0@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I'm using PopOver (very nice program) but just realized that it
only pops in one direction (downloads mail). Is there a POP3
client that pops in both directions? Also, PopOver does not seem
to be deleting the mail from the POP server-- is this standard
behaviour?
Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gil Rivlis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Super- and Subscripts ( was: Re: WriteUp Review)
Date: 13 Mar 1994 01:04:34 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ltor2$b43@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <9403122218.AA11262@cantina.lanl.gov>
Dick Silbar writes
> Adding a few extra thoughts to John Kheit's nice review...
>
> 1. I am not happy with sub- and superscripts, but there are
> ways to handle them in the present version.
>
> Just to be perfectly clear about how I think one _ought_
> to type sub- and superscripted material, here are the
> five keystroke characters I'd _like_ to use to type
> "water":
>
> "H", "<cmd-\>, "2", "<cmd-0>", "O"
>
> where the "<cmd-0>" is the (as-yet--undefined)
> key-equivalent to Unscript. And, of course, the "O" comes
> out in the same font and size as the "H". [I'm assuming
> that "<cmd-0>" is not already used somewhere else in the
> App. One could use "<cmd-/>" to undo the subscripting, but
> there really are times when one wants a superscript on a
> subscript.] Please note: no going to the mouse, all hands
> on the main keyboard.
>
> WriteUp can't do it that way, at least not in the present
> version.
[munch]
I am not sure it's a good idea. What if you want a superscript
on a subscript? (It happens, you know).
The only way is to delimit the super- and subscripts like TeX.
Of course, one can use command-key combinations to delimit groups,
but then you will need two command keys for the delimiters and
two command keys for super and subscripts.
Gil
---
Gil Rivlis, Physics Department, The Ohio State University
gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu NeXTMail Capable
From: me@vigor.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail.App :Returned mail: Host unknown
Date: 13 Mar 1994 02:58:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <2ltvhi$lu9@netnews.upenn.edu>
Reply-To: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Distribution: world
Hi,
My Mail.App can't deliver mail outside of our local domain. The mail
bounces and I get the following message :
550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)
This, even though I CAN finger the mail recipient from the machine
I'm trying to send the mail from. Also, I can telnet and login
anywhere, so I know the name server is doing its job. Any
help appreciated.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Subject: Re: best POP3 client for NSI 3.2?
Message-ID: <schwettCML6rH.H79@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2lsesl$qi6@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 04:50:04 GMT
Joe,
(PopOver ... is that the way to go? Does NeXTMail get popped correctly?)
I am using PopOver and like it very much; and yes, NeXTMail does get popped
just fine.
The only problem I have is that it doesn't delete the mail on the source
machine, so the timed retreive results in multiple messages, all the same,
until I telnet and kill the mail spool.
But otherwise it works quite well...
Mark
From: pakala@sdl.egr.uh.edu (Rama R. Pakala)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Segmentation fault and Bus Error while using NewsGrazer release 3.0, version 75!!
Date: 13 Mar 1994 06:12:02 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2luari$8ra@menudo.uh.edu>
Hi,
I have been using NewsGrazer for a long time now, and ever since we
moved to release 3.0, version 75, we have been getting very strange
behaviour. Trying to "catchup" creates a bus error, and Newsgrazer
quits suddenly. And this happens only while reading certain groups.
And worse of all, NewsGrazer creates a segmentation fault and quits
abruptly while reading some other groups. Does anyone else have had
similar problems? Has any fix been suggested? I would be grateful for
any help.
Thanks a lot.
Rama.
--
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Engineering,
University of Houston
*******************************************
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Is it really true,
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From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: equations
Message-ID: <CMFCnL.Gr@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab.
References: <JNICOLAS.94Mar2074115@whistler.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 01:11:45 GMT
In article <JNICOLAS.94Mar2074115@whistler.mit.edu>
jnicolas@whistler.mit.edu (Julien Nicolas) writes:
> .....
> there, mathematical notations in boxes, etc. Since graphics editors like
> Create or Virtuoso do not have any support for mathematical typesetting,
> even the simplest equation/symbol has to be included as an eps file. As
> .....
Ok, you are right. But I don't see a reason for every app to have every
function someone might need.
Virtuose is of no need have a Symbol typesetting function. To me a big
advantage is to have more apps that are focused on a few topics and that
are able to work together.
Otherwise you will always get monsters like FrameWorker. But this doesn't
meat that there is nothing to improve with the ObjectLinking. (I would
like it to become rela object linking via PDO or something like that. But
this might take some time till there are no limits from the
file(object)system)
Tomi
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From: rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
Subject: MPEG audio player for NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <CMLDHw.JM1@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 07:15:31 GMT
Does anyone know if there is an MPEG *AUDIO* (.MP2 - MPEG layer 2) player
for NEXTSTEP that will definitely run on Intel hardware? It doesn't matter
if it is a Unix command-line app or NEXTSTEP app...
Thanks in advance!
-Rob
rawyatt@csn.org (TEXT ONLY!!!)
rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: tmyers@unlinfo.unl.edu (tim myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: changing title on terminal windows
Date: 13 Mar 1994 07:30:48 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <2luff8$t0i@crcnis1.unl.edu>
The subject pretty much says it all. I'm using the Terminal app. to open
telnet sessions to several other machines for monitoring. It would be
REALLY handy to be able to change the window title to the name of the
machine I am telneted to. Any ideas? Thanks in advance!
Tim Myers
--
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Winner of the "1993 Diabetic--I did something REALLY stupid--Contest"
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <CMLICB.2r@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <CMIwM0.Fo7@utstat.toronto.edu> <2lsnto$1sc@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 09:00:11 GMT
In article <2lsnto$1sc@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes:
[ ]
>I was FLABBERGASTED that WriteUp did not do footnotes!
>I stupidly assumed this feature was a given on any word
>processor. Sigh. :-(
Well, the price of "progess"!
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Date program
Message-ID: <1994Mar13.082939.523@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2ltbp2$qpc@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 08:29:39 GMT
In article <2ltbp2$qpc@crcnis1.unl.edu> tshores@unlinfo.unl.edu (thomas
shores) writes:
> NeXT used to include a really great demo software program in the
> NeXTStep OS package called "Date" by Brian Yamamoto. But it isn't
> included in NeXTStep 3.x. I would really like to use it on white
> hardware running 3.2. Does anyone know if it still exists (or went
> commercial)? If not, does anyone have suggestions for a public domain
> or (reasonably inexpensive) commericial calendar program?
Date just disappeared. If you want a commercial calendar program, get
PencilMeIn from Sarrus (info@sarrus.com). For a non-commercial program,
you should be able to find Cassandra on the archives.
Paul
--
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P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: changing title on terminal windows
Date: 13 Mar 1994 11:23:35 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2lut3n$jmn@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2luff8$t0i@crcnis1.unl.edu>
In article <2luff8$t0i@crcnis1.unl.edu> tmyers@unlinfo.unl.edu
(tim myers) writes:
>The subject pretty much says it all.
No, dude. The subject _never_ says it all. Not even pretty
much.
> I'm using the Terminal app. to open
>telnet sessions to several other machines for monitoring. It would be
>REALLY handy to be able to change the window title to the name of the
>machine I am telneted to.
Click on Terminal.app's Info>Preferences. Now find the
"Title Bar" panel (hint: Command-2 is a keyboard shortcut).
Click the "Custom Title" switch. Fill in whatever you
want for Custom Title and click the "Set Window" button.
> Any ideas?
Yeah--RTFM! You really shouldn't be asking the entire planet
to help with something you could figure out on your own in a
couple of minutes.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Scanner Software
Message-ID: <CMLzrK.B5n@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: Want to know what scanner software is out there
Keywords: scanner, software
Sender: David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 15:16:28 GMT
I am looking to purchase a scanner - probably a UMAX630
( $550.00 US at Fry's - Sunnyvale, CA )
I plan to be scanning in 2D and 3D grey scale images to
imbed in a TeX file as a ps or eps file.
I would like to be able to edit, scale, rotate the scanned
images.
What software packages or combination of packages will I need
to scan in images, convert to postscript and maximally edit
and alter the images??
Please e-mail your responses to : dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
Thanks,
David Bradford
P.S. Please, no verbose dogma. This is not comp.sys.next.advocacy.
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Edu Pages and Upgrade?
Date: 13 Mar 1994 16:15:05 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2lve69$o61@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
I see that Pages edu license does not include
an upgrade. What exactly do they mean? No free
upgrade, or no upgrade at all?
thanks
Robert de Lucca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: changing title on terminal windows
Message-ID: <1994Mar13.163432.2468@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
Organization: University of Oulu
References: <2lut3n$jmn@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 16:34:32 GMT
In article <2lut3n$jmn@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
> >I'm using the Terminal app. to open
> >telnet sessions to several other machines for monitoring. It would be
> >REALLY handy to be able to change the window title to the name of the
> >machine I am telneted to.
>
> Click on Terminal.app's Info>Preferences. Now find the
> "Title Bar" panel (hint: Command-2 is a keyboard shortcut).
> Click the "Custom Title" switch. Fill in whatever you
> want for Custom Title and click the "Set Window" button.
Nicer to be able to set the title automatically when you telnet:
e.g.
telnet jove
sets the title of the Terminal window to "jove". I don't think this
is possible with Terminal (correct me if I'm wrong, I'd like to use
it too), but I do think you can do it with Stuart, most usefully
by including escape seqeunces in your shell prompt. (Check Stuart's
docs.)
--
Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O
Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) |
The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3DReality users?
Date: 13 Mar 1994 14:57:52 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lv9lg$ks@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22082141@shrug.dur.ac.uk>
In article <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Feb22082141@shrug.dur.ac.uk> "Scott A.
McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> writes:
|>
|>I would be interested in hearing from other users of 3DReality to find
out
|>any tips, tricks, hints and so on they may have...Possibly to even setup
|>a mailing list or public archive of shaders, textures and so on..
|>
|>If you think you can help, drop me a line.
|>
|>Thanks
|>Scott
|>--
|>EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
|>SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
|> "A wasted youth is better by far than a wise and productive old age"
|> "In another novel, I *am* you"
Hi,
I would very like to see a list like that. 3D Reality is a great piece of
software, and the more tips, tricks and wiremodels, the better!
Best regards
Michael
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: changing title on terminal windows
Date: 13 Mar 1994 17:25:53 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <2lvib1$7rl@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <2lut3n$jmn@nic-nac.CSU.net> <1994Mar13.163432.2468@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
In article <1994Mar13.163432.2468@ousrvr.oulu.fi>,
Stephen Fitzpatrick <sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk> wrote:
>Nicer to be able to set the title automatically when you telnet:
>e.g.
> telnet jove
>sets the title of the Terminal window to "jove". I don't think this
>is possible with Terminal (correct me if I'm wrong, I'd like to use
Not possible to do it automatically with Terminal, as far as I know.
>it too), but I do think you can do it with Stuart, most usefully
>by including escape seqeunces in your shell prompt. (Check Stuart's
>docs.)
Easily done with Stuart, which is in dozens of other ways superior
to Terminal anyway.
--
[Jess Anderson % anderson@doit.wisc.edu % Network Engineering Technology Group]
[Systems Engineering Dept % Div of Information Technology % Univ of Wisconsin]
[Room 3130 % 1210 West Dayton Street % Madison WI 53706 % Phone 608/262-5888]
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson)
Subject: Re: changing title on terminal windows
Message-ID: <7635805449237@dalek.mcs.anl.gov>
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Math and Computer Science, Argonne National Laboratory
References: <2lut3n$jmn@nic-nac.CSU.net> <1994Mar13.163432.2468@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <2lvib1$7rl@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 17:42:24 GMT
In article <2lvib1$7rl@news.doit.wisc.edu>,
Jess Anderson <anderson@macc.wisc.edu> wrote:
>In article <1994Mar13.163432.2468@ousrvr.oulu.fi>,
>Stephen Fitzpatrick <sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>Nicer to be able to set the title automatically when you telnet:
>>e.g.
>> telnet jove
>>sets the title of the Terminal window to "jove". I don't think this
>>is possible with Terminal (correct me if I'm wrong, I'd like to use
>
>Not possible to do it automatically with Terminal, as far as I know.
I go about this a different way. I generally bring up remote login
windows with cmd-N (Shell->Run Command). For each machine that I use
often, I change the title to the name of the machine, and do a
Shell->Save As for that window, saving the config under the machine's
name. Next time I need to log in to a machine, I just do a cmd-o and
type the first few letters of the machine name to get a
properly-titled window logged in to that machine. Works very well,
especially after the save files for the machines you use is built up
(I generally save the window for *each* machine I ever log in to,
under the assumption that I'll log into it again at some point).
--bob
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MPEG audio player for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 13 Mar 1994 18:49:25 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2lvn7l$j22@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <CMLDHw.JM1@csn.org>
In article <CMLDHw.JM1@csn.org> rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
writes:
>
> Does anyone know if there is an MPEG *AUDIO* (.MP2 - MPEG layer 2)
player
> for NEXTSTEP that will definitely run on Intel hardware? It doesn't
matter
> if it is a Unix command-line app or NEXTSTEP app...
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Rob
> rawyatt@csn.org (TEXT ONLY!!!)
> rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
For that matter, one for black hardware would be nice, too. I have mpeg2
to pcm conversion utilities, but since I'm unaware of any simple audio
pipe in NextStep, using them requires megs and megs of disk space and lots
of patience...
--
Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions
expressed by anyone at any time.
From: avery@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Avery Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BackupMaster.app -- Where is Teledia?
Date: 13 Mar 1994 20:10:11 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2lvrv3$l5l@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Hi,
Does anyone know if Teledia has an email address or telephone #?
They seem to have forgotten this minor detail in their demo version
of BackupMaster.app.
By the way, does anyone have any comments on this utility?
Thanks,
Avery Wang avery@ccrma.stanford.edu
CCRMA (Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics)
660 Lomita Dr. Fax: +1 (415) 723-8468
Stanford, CA 94305 Tel: +1 (415) 364-5002
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dennis@ar.cs.wm.edu (Dennis Edwards)
Subject: websterd for 3.2 ?
Message-ID: <1994Mar13.203015.20998@cs.wm.edu>
Sender: news@cs.wm.edu (News System)
Organization: College of William & Mary, founded 1693
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 20:30:15 GMT
Is their a version of websterd that will run under 3.2? The version I have
is for 2.0 and can't "referenceOpen(Webster-Dictionary)".
Thanks in advance,
--
Dennis Edwards
dennis@cs.wm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Subject: frame update
Message-ID: <1994Mar13.212739.56806@yuma>
Date: 13 Mar 94 21:27:39 GMT
a few weeks have gone by since the cry for frame 4 for ns, and the rumors that
it would materialize. does anybody have any more info now?
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WWW--what is it?
Date: 13 Mar 1994 21:45:10 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2m01h7$3ru@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2l08gl$ahp@bigfoot.wustl.edu> <2l364n$c6g@yucca.omnigroup.com>
Ok, what is World Wide Web, really? From the point of view of us (now
primitive) users of usenet news, email, ftp, etc. I keep on seeing
some tool called Mosaic, and weird addresses with too many slashes.
Clearly I'm behind the times, and I'd like to get a little more up to
date. Thanks.
mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Re: WWW--what is it?
Message-ID: <CMMK7w.3L3@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
References: <2l08gl$ahp@bigfoot.wustl.edu> <2l364n$c6g@yucca.omnigroup.com> <2m01h7$3ru@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 22:38:20 GMT
In article <2m01h7$3ru@gap.cco.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) writes:
>
>Ok, what is World Wide Web, really? From the point of view of us (now
>primitive) users of usenet news, email, ftp, etc. I keep on seeing
>some tool called Mosaic, and weird addresses with too many slashes.
>Clearly I'm behind the times, and I'd like to get a little more up to
>date. Thanks.
>
>mark
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FileViewer suggestion.
Date: 13 Mar 1994 20:07:14 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2lvrpi$146@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Just as you can work with multiple selections when copying files. You
should be able to do the same but for the destination.
ie. normally you pick up the hand of cards and can drag it into a
folder.
How difficult is it to implement multiple destiniation targets?
ie. select multiple directories such that the hand of cards is in the
Hierarchial viewer. Then being able to drag and drop a
file[s]/directory[ies] combination on them so signify that you want to
copy _into_ all selected targets. Obviously it would only make sense
if the targets were themselves directories. (unless you wanted to
allow overwriting existing files)
I wanted to automatically update all my projects Makefile.postambles
today and it's a tedious chore. I'm now using "include" sparsely.
--
"You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant)
"No, what?"
"Nothing" (Charade, 1963)
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu (Gareth S. Bestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Improv and WordPerfect for Intel?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 00:08:46 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <2m09ue$jck@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Could someone confirm the following for me:
1. Improv is NOT available on Intel h/w (is there
a remote possibility it will be later?)
2. WordPerfect IS available on Intel h/w (is it
compatible with DOS WP data files?)
Thanks,
- Gareth
--
Gareth S. Bestor "A University should be a
bestor@cs.wisc.edu (NeXTmail welcome) place of light, of liberty,
Dept. Computer Sciences and of learning."
U. Wisconsin-Madison - Disraeli
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu (Gareth S. Bestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: drifting browser in NewsGrazer
Date: 14 Mar 1994 00:18:06 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <2m0afu$jlp@news.doit.wisc.edu>
I've had a "problem" in NewsGrazer 72.3 for some time where the central
browser slider (which separate the groups from the article headings)
drifts to the left a few pixels everytime I launch. Eventually, the
groups get so small that it resorts to a single column.
Not that this is serious - I only need to slide it back now and again -
but I was wondering if anybody else has experienced this? I could
probably fix this by upgrading to version 75 since the program would
crash before it had time to drift too far :-)
- Gareth
--
Gareth S. Bestor "A University should be a
bestor@cs.wisc.edu (NeXTmail welcome) place of light, of liberty,
Dept. Computer Sciences and of learning."
U. Wisconsin-Madison - Disraeli
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Statistical software - SAS, SPSS etc?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 02:25:55 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2m0hvj$epi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <CMJKy4.8GB@utstat.toronto.edu> <2lt3ns$ea8@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Is TSP really available for the NeXT?
Randy
jackson+@osu.edu
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From: rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Message-ID: <CMn0DK.K8C@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
References: <2ljilj$t2q@digifix.digifix.com> <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 04:27:20 GMT
In article <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) writes:
>> - Munged mcvert to create only the data fork of a MacBinary file
>> instead of all resource forks, since this is the only portion
>> needed to open these files on a NeXT (this concerns .hqx files)
>
>Does this mean that if you want to get, say, a font which has some part of its
>definition in the resource fork, you will not be able to get the file
>correctly?
>
>Yves.
If you're having problems with Opener and font files (ie: no resource fork
files), get a copy of the Unix command line utility macutil from the
umich Mac archive. It will deBinHex, UnStuff, and also uncompress
CompactorPro files...And, it lets you determine which forks you want...
I wish they'd incorporate macutil into Opener...
-Rob
rawyatt@csn.org (TEXT ONLY!!!)
rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
P.S. Macutil compiled without any problems on my Intel system...It's a
no-brainer...
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <Mar.13.23.18.57.1994.10360@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 14 Mar 94 04:18:58 GMT
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>BOGUS STUFF
>-It doesn't have great tab support. It has the general tabs like on
>any text object and thats it. I guess the only thing I would like
>more is support for repeating tabs (i.e. every .245 inches) and sup
>port for a fill character between tabs. Also it doesn't do right jus
>tified, centered and character centered tabs.
> > ......................>
> tab1 fill char tab2
I made a mistake here. WriteUp, indeed, does have centered, right, and decimal
tabs. You need to press a modifier key to create them. I personally prefer
tab wells that describe the tab types. But, the modifier method is quick and
intuitive once you know it exists.
>- No mail merge. I rarely if ever use this, but its a good thing to be
>able to do form letters. WriteNow can even do this.
AFS is working an a nice implementation for this.
>Window Positioning - Remembering window positions. Wri
>teNow does this. And so should WriteUp.
WriteUp remembers panel positions, but AFS said it doesn't do this because
its infeasible... Im not sure why they feel this way. WriteNow does save
window positions for each document and I like this feature...but maybe its
just me.
All and all, AFS seems to have a bunch of things in the works for WriteUp 2.0
which may be out by NXEXPO... Although footnotes seem to be less of a priority
because WriteUp is being more targeted to Business rather than Academia. But,
I think footnotes come in handy in the business world too... Anyway, multiple
columns is something else everyone has something to look forward to. What I
like most about what AFS has to say, is not only their commitment to NS, but
their commitment to designing intuitive, clean and aesthetic quality products.
I wish them luck in all they do, and they deserve kudos for their fine efforts.
Unfortunatly, for me, I have to go back to WriteNow because my work demands
footnotes (sigh).
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <Mar.13.23.21.31.1994.10599@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 14 Mar 94 04:21:31 GMT
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <CMIwM0.Fo7@utstat.toronto.edu> <jeffo.763449395@uiuc.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>* Tables (every popular word processor I've come across has tables) If
>there's not going to be right, left and center justification tab
>support, tables can do the same thing (assuming that within a cell one
>can have right, left and center justification).
>* Some tab-alignment or tool to make decimals align vertically
>according to the placement of the decimal (be it a comma, period or
>some other symbol) (again, it's popular)
This was a mistake made by me...WriteUp does allow for right, left, center &
decimal tab alignment.
Sorry for any confusion.
Later, John
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Date program
Date: 14 Mar 1994 05:17:59 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2m0s27$qc7@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Mar13.082939.523@seer.demon.co.uk>
Paul Lynch writes
> Date just disappeared.
Don't know why. It still works.
> If you want a commercial calendar program, get
> PencilMeIn from Sarrus (info@sarrus.com).
PMIn is cool, but way over-priced (IMHO, of course).
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: 3DMouseAdaptor. Any interest ?
Message-ID: <CMMIoI.MB@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Keywords: SpaceMouse, renderMan, MiscKit, CyberMause
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab.
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 22:05:05 GMT
Hello!
I am planning to make my private SpaceMouseAdaptor available through the
MiscKit once it will run smoothly.
As a next step I'm planning to produce a app call 3DMouseAdaptor that will
provide some simple API via a PDO port. A simple message like:
[server currentTransformation]
will return a simple struct, or object that holds the data about rotation
and translation.
The basic idea is that this approach would allow a user to use any kind of
3DMouse (SpaceMouse (by SpaceControl), CyberMouse (by Logitec?) or what
ever) within every kind of 3Dapp without limiting him to only one app that
locks the 3dDevice.
I have no real methods defined yet and only a very vague idea of the hole
app. The app and objects will be free and maybe part of the MiscKit (if
Don thinks it is worth adding).
So your comments and suggestions are welcome. How would you like to
communicate to a 3DMouse.
Bye,
Tomi
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____________________________________________________
(tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel
Neptunstr. 9
NeXTMail welcome 90522 Oberasbach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: reinders@othello.math.uni-hannover.de (Martin Reinders)
Subject: Re: best POP3 client for NSI 3.2?
Message-ID: <1994Mar14.070553.19743@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
References: <schwettCML6rH.H79@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 07:05:53 GMT
In article <schwettCML6rH.H79@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com (Mark
Schwettmann) writes:
> Joe,
>
> (PopOver ... is that the way to go? Does NeXTMail get popped
correctly?)
>
> I am using PopOver and like it very much; and yes, NeXTMail does get
popped
> just fine.
>
> The only problem I have is that it doesn't delete the mail on the source
> machine, so the timed retreive results in multiple messages, all the
same,
> until I telnet and kill the mail spool.
>
> But otherwise it works quite well...
>
> Mark
>
I'm also using PopOver on my NeXTstation (black, NS 3.1) and it
DOES delete the mail on the source machine.
From PopOver.v.1.0.Readme:
PopOver will only delete mail messages on remote hosts that are
retrieved properly (or will leave them. See the help panels for more
information). Since PopOver was originally designed for users of
low-speed modem connections, this is extremely valuable if there is a
transmission error.
Martin
--
Martin Reinders (reinders@math.uni-hannover.de)
Inst. f. Mathematik, Universitaet Hannover, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky)
Subject: Re: DOOM question
Message-ID: <dgursky.763304928@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1994Mar7.085214.1438@amylnd.stgt.sub.org> <2lghk4$mf0@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:08:48 GMT
fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes:
>> > "I can't seem to find much of the secret stuff in the
>> > 'toxin refinery'. Any one have some hints on what to do?"
>> > You can reply to me and I will pass it on. Thanks.
>>
>> I need help, too. In the first level, I did only find two of
>> the three secrets. I found the way to the 200% armor and I
>> found the better weapon behind the monster. Please, where is
>> the entrance to the third secret?
>Spoilers below:
>There is a lot of secret stuff in the toxin refinery (E1L3). First, look
>for a secret door past the blue door. You'll need the yellow key behind
>there. Second, after you've killed the monsters near the yellow key, go
>back out and RUN up the stairs towards the yellow key, and see if you can
>see anything.
>For level 1, there is a door that opens near the shotgun, but only when
>you enter the zig-zag area, so you have to run fast before the door
>closes. (Not much there when you get there, but a good place to hide in
>network play, I suppose)
>Good luck.
>Ok, here is my question. While I can find 100% of the secrets on level 1
>and 3, I can only get 83% of the secrets on level 2. Has anyone gotten
>100% on this level? I seem to have explored everything on the map. (Using
>iddt to show me the whole map)
>Michael
More spoilers below:
When you enter the main area of Level two from the antechamber, you will
see two columns of computer equipment in from of you, with a passage
between them and body armor beyond them. (For the moment, assume that
the body armor represents "North" and the antechamber "South"). At the
southeast corner of the eastern wall of the eastern bank of computer
equipment (the one nearest the courtyard) is a hidden door. Open this
and push the button. This will open two passages -- one in the computer
room that leads to the small courtyard with the chainsaw, and one in the
passageways to the east that lead out into the main courtyard. I suspect this
is your missing secret.
--
David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted
Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org
8601 Georgia Avenue voice: ............. (301) 608-2144
Silver Spring, MD 20917 fax: ............. (301) 495-3036
From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C McAfee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tcsh
Date: 14 Mar 1994 08:04:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Message-ID: <2m15qm$fv7@Times.Stanford.EDU>
References: <9403082138.AA00359@pth3.bu.edu> <CEDMAN.94Mar10104253@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Mar10104253@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote:
>In article <9403082138.AA00359@pth3.bu.edu> Robert Singleton <bobs@PTH3.BU.EDU> writes:
> Where can I get a copy of tcsh for the NeXT? (NeXTSTep 3.1)
> Thanks very much.
>
> bob singleton
>Tcsh is not standard. It is a well intentioned but unfortunately
>doomed-to-fail attempt to make a reasonable shell out of csh. Zsh is
>compatible with sh, ksh, bash, pdksh and virtually every other non-csh
>shell on the planet. It has all the features of tcsh and more. You
>can find zsh2.4pl300 in ftp.sterling.com:/zsh. Just run buildzsh and
>it will configure and compile on a NS 3.[12] system automatically.
I have used tcsh for a few years and love it. It is fairly easy to
build from source code; for Sun, HP, Ultrix all that was needed
was a "./configure; make install". Haven't built it for NeXT recently
but can't imagine you running into too many problems. I can't remember
if tcsh is part of the GNU family or not..
Chris
mcafee@cs.stanford.edu
From: izumi@mindseye.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Date: 14 Mar 1994 08:26:32 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <2m173o$8ji@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2ljilj$t2q@digifix.digifix.com> <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr> <CMn0DK.K8C@csn.org>
In article <CMn0DK.K8C@csn.org> rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt) writes:
>In article <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) writes:
>>> - Munged mcvert to create only the data fork of a MacBinary file
>>> instead of all resource forks, since this is the only portion
>>> needed to open these files on a NeXT (this concerns .hqx files)
>>Does this mean that if you want to get, say, a font which has some part of its
>>definition in the resource fork, you will not be able to get the file
>>correctly?
>
>If you're having problems with Opener and font files (ie: no resource fork
>files), get a copy of the Unix command line utility macutil from the
>umich Mac archive. It will deBinHex, UnStuff, and also uncompress
>CompactorPro files...And, it lets you determine which forks you want...
>
>I wish they'd incorporate macutil into Opener...
Please forward your sources and brief usage to current maintainer of
Opener.app, Denise Blakeley <blake015@mc.duke.edu>. He has been
very responsive, and in fact, *he* contacted me when I posted a
note about munged mcvert. No sense sitting on it just wishing.
I think it would be helpful for Denise if you could provide
command lines (with appropriate options) that create, from BinHex,
MacBinary file, data fork file, and resource fork file, so he
can incorporate them into the Opener.table file.
From your descriptions of macutil, it looks like it should replace
mcvert entirely.
Opener.app is table driven (via Opener.app/Opener.table), so
it may not be easy to configure via Preferences what to do
with .hqx files. Given that, the most reasonable thing
for Opener to do with .hqx file is to decode BinHex into
all three formats: MacBinary, data fork, and resource fork with
.bin, <none> , and .rsrc extentions, respectively.
This will probably require 2 or 3 invocations of macutil, but
that should be acceptable as the default behavior, and everyone
can pick whatever he/she needs.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $BBg_78^=;(B ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk (Geoff Hopson)
Subject: Re: What Object Oriented databases work on NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994Mar14.092132.19412@zoo.bt.co.uk>
Sender: news@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Laboratories, Ipswich, UK.
References: <2lqb7u$dpo@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 09:21:32 GMT
In article <2lqb7u$dpo@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy
Kunkee) writes:
--> I'm curious what object oriented databases are out there for Next,
--> both commercial or free. For example, I plan to look into OBST.
--> I'd be interested if anyone has ported this to NeXT already.
-->
By coincidence, I mentioned about a port of Versant to NS/FIP to the Versant
resellers over here in the UK last week, and he tells me that Versant are
actively working on a port (could be just a rumour). No luck on the black
hardware, though. A port of Versant _is_ available for the black platform,
but it is based on version 1.7.3 (Versant is shipping at version 2.1 or
higher now.) No plans to upgrade the black version, I'm afraid.
I believe that POET also runs on NS/FIP - call 1-800-950-8845 for more info
(copied from their ad in JOOP this month)(or contact Silicon River in the
UK).
If anyone can confirm or deny the Versant rumour, then please let me know.
Thanks in advance,
Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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Senior Professional Engineer B67 / Room G11
Telephone (0473) 644380 BT Labs
Fax (0473) 640468 Martlesham Heath
e-mail: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk Ipswich IP5 7RE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NeXTMail accepted <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 14 Mar 1994 09:17:23 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2m1a33$q2@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <Mar.13.23.18.57.1994.10360@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>WriteUp remembers panel positions, but AFS said it doesn't do this because
>its infeasible... Im not sure why they feel this way. WriteNow does save
>window positions for each document and I like this feature...but maybe its
>just me.
It's probably got to so with defaults. and having a lot them.
--
"You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant)
"No, what?"
"Nothing" (Charade, 1963)
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: .dir.tiff tip
Message-ID: <CMnp6E.E19@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services
References: <CMJEn8.8v@dsinc!flash>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:24:12 GMT
How about grabbing your image when it has been resized to 48x48 and then
making a 48x48 tiff in IconBuilder that has representations for the different
screen depths?
peter
flash!jon@myxa.com wrote:
: Don't use a big tiff file for your .dir.tiff.
: Workspace will resize it to 48x48 so that it looks right, but Workspace will
: slow down tremendously. 'Remove' -ing files puts you into spinnyland for a few
: moments.
: I was using a rendered 24bit rgba file, about 256k, LZW compressed. Looked
: cool, since prman makes the background transparent automatically, but whoa was
: it slow.
: Changing it back to the default sped things up considerably. Duh.
: Just a tip for anyone with a custom .dir.tiff whose Workspace gets slooowwwww.
: --
: Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting
: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
--
Always looking for a handy place to nap...
peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@snac.cfa.org
From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C McAfee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW--what is it?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 13:20:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Message-ID: <2m1oa6$he3@Times.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2l08gl$ahp@bigfoot.wustl.edu> <2l364n$c6g@yucca.omnigroup.com> <2m01h7$3ru@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <CMMK7w.3L3@ucdavis.edu>
In article <CMMK7w.3L3@ucdavis.edu>,
David Bradford <dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>In article <2m01h7$3ru@gap.cco.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) writes:
>>
>>Ok, what is World Wide Web, really? From the point of view of us (now
>>primitive) users of usenet news, email, ftp, etc. I keep on seeing
>>some tool called Mosaic, and weird addresses with too many slashes.
>>Clearly I'm behind the times, and I'd like to get a little more up to
Addresses like http://ursamajor.uvic.ca/oopsla94.html ?? :-)
[From "NCSA Mosaic Technical Summary"] :
This address format is called a "Uniform Resource Locator". For instance, if
a file "foobar.txt" sits on an anonymous ftp server called "ftp.yoyodyne.com"
in the directory "/pub/files", then the URL for this file would be
constructed as follows:
file://ftp.yoyodyne.com/pub/files/foo.txt
^^^^
"file" can also be "gopher", "news", "http" for different servers.
[From "Getting Started with NCSA Mosaic"] :
NCSA Mosaic is based on the World Wide Web technology from CERN in Switzerland
and uses the WWW common client library for much of its low-level communication.
NCSA Mosaic uses a client/server model; a server sits on a machine at an
internet site fulfilling queries sent by Mosaic clients.
Mosaic clients are available for X11/Motif & Mac, and a NeXT client
called "OmniWeb" is in alpha now. All the clients (to my knowledge) are
provided free-of-charge.
Think of Mosaic/OmniWeb as a "hypertexted, interactive ftp/news service".
It makes GatorFTP look primitive. During the Olympics I was using Mosaic
on my Sun at work to fetch images that someone in Norway was dumping
on the net with ? their SGI Indycam. At a click of the hypertext "Sweden
vs. Norway", Mosaic would automagically query the appropriate server,
ftp the image to my local machine, fire up my local image viewer ("xv")
and display the image. Way-cool. My local newspaper (Palo Alto Weekly)
is on-line, hypertexted. I can find out movie times a the click of a
button. Frequently-used queries can be saved with a "hot list"
mechanism.
And NOW the fun part, you can set up your own Mosaic server to do, well,
just about anything. My friend has put images of the house he is building
on his server (why, I haven't exactly figured out yet :-), and I have
seen several companies set up "product browsers" which allow you to get
product information in a colorful, interactive fashion.
I think interactive resumes would be a good idea too (for a diagram of
this project, click here, etc.).
So get your SLIP/PPP connection going and yeah, jump on the bandwagon.
Chris
mcafee@cs.stanford.edu
From: bungi@omnigroup.com (Timothy J. Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Regarding OmniWeb
Date: 13 Mar 1994 21:29:14 -0800
Organization: Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
Message-ID: <2m0snb$br@fungusaur.wizards.com>
References: <2lokfg$4uf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Note that OmniWeb is still in its alpha stage. Do not expect to find a
finished application. We've made it available early so we can collect
comments while still developing it.
That said, you can find the latest version on ftp.omnigroup.com. Version
0.6 should be out soon. Also, you can join the omniweb-l mailing list by
sendmail mail to listserv@omnigroup.com.
--
Timothy J. Wood
Omni Development, Inc.
jauderho@umich.edu (Jauder Ho) writes:
> Hello all. I am minug-sercretary.general@umich.edu I have been
>totally overwhelmed y requests for Omniweb. I have a Chaos exam and a
>paper due tomorrow so I do no have the time to mail the prog out.
>I would like people to hold off e-mailing me till at least Sat. and I
>will be doing a batch mailing so just be patient. Till then have a nice day.
>--Jauder
>P.S. Those of you who has access to AFS just cd to
>/afs/umich.edu/group/lsa/minug to look at the NeXT archive. OmniWeb can
>be found there. Also you can take a look at
>/afs/umich.edu/user/j/a/jauderho/Fun for fun stuff although I would like
>you to e-mail me at jauderho@umich.edu after doing so so that I will know
>if you liked it.
>--
>ADVISORY: There Is an Extremely Small but Nonzero Chance That, Through a
>Process Known as 'Tunneling,' This Message May Spontaneously Disappear
>from Its Present Location and Reappear at Any Random Place in the
>Universe, Including Your Neighbour's Kitchen. The Author Will Not Be
From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat)
Newsgroups: comp.security.unix,comp.infosystems.gopher,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Unescapable telnet?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 14:01:11 GMT
Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding.
Message-ID: <2m1qn7$7tn@garuda.csulb.edu>
Is there a version of telnet that doesnt allow the user to escape back to
the telnet prompt, but instead simply quits them out of telnet? I dont
want people being able to telnet to arbitrary addresses by escaping out of
a telnet connection they get while using a public gopher login.
Hopefully something that will compile under NeXTstep 3.0.
--
_O_ Ryan L. Watkins vamp@csulb.edu
| Student Consultant - Academic Computing Services CSU Long Beach
| finger vamp@beach.csulb.edu for pgp public key
Newsgroups: comp.security.unix,comp.infosystems.gopher,comp.sys.next.software
From: Gutorm.Hogasen@ti-oslo.televerket.tele.no (Gutorm Thomas Hogasen)
Subject: Re: Unescapable telnet?
In-Reply-To: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu's message of 14 Mar 1994 14:01:11 GMT
Message-ID: <GUTORM.HOGASEN.94Mar14152651@unik.no>
Sender: news@nntp.nta.no
Organization: Televerkets avd. for Informasjons-teknologi
References: <2m1qn7$7tn@garuda.csulb.edu>
Date: 14 Mar 1994 14:26:51 GMT
> Is there a version of telnet that doesnt allow the user to escape back to
> the telnet prompt, but instead simply quits them out of telnet? I dont
> want people being able to telnet to arbitrary addresses by escaping out of
> a telnet connection they get while using a public gopher login.
I don't know about your telnet, but my /usr/ucb/telnet (sun OS 4.1.3)
forces you to close a session before you open another. and close =
exit.
So the real question might be: Is it possible to slip in an escape
after telnet is started, but before the connection is established?
Please inform me if telnet can be hijacked this way!
--
Gutorm Hogasen, Norwegian Telecom
Internet: gutorm.hogasen@ti-oslo.televerket.tele.no
X.400 : G=Gutorm/S=Hogasen/OU=ti-oslo/O=televerket/PRMD=tele/ADMD=telemax/C=no
From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Newsgroups: comp.security.unix,comp.infosystems.gopher,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unescapable telnet?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 14:47:56 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m1tes$odk@mail.fwi.uva.nl>
References: <2m1qn7$7tn@garuda.csulb.edu> <GUTORM.HOGASEN.94Mar14152651@unik.no>
Gutorm.Hogasen@ti-oslo.televerket.tele.no (Gutorm Thomas Hogasen) writes:
>So the real question might be: Is it possible to slip in an escape
>after telnet is started, but before the connection is established?
>Please inform me if telnet can be hijacked this way!
ctl-\ will interrupt and give you a telnet prompt.
You can use stty to disable this.
Casper
From: aej@manyjars.WPI.EDU (Allan E Johannesen)
Newsgroups: comp.security.unix,comp.infosystems.gopher,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unescapable telnet?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 15:48:29 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Message-ID: <AEJ.94Mar14104829@manyjars.WPI.EDU>
References: <2m1qn7$7tn@garuda.csulb.edu>
In-reply-to: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu's message of 14 Mar 1994 14:01:11 GMT
I don't know about your version of telnet, but UCB 4.3 versions turn off
escapability by the -E switch:
telnet -E somewhere.
From: eric@american.edu (Eric Prestemon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDplayer that works under X?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 17:28:17 GMT
Organization: University Computing Center - American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <2m26rh$eeg@paladin.american.edu>
I spend enough of my time in X, and I like the CDplayer app enough, that I
have realized how nice it would be to control my CDplayer without flipping
back out of X all the time.
Has anyone ported one of the existing Xplayers to Next? or ported the NeXT
player to X?
Thanks
-Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Tami Bland)
Subject: SAS and Nextstep
Message-ID: <1994Mar14.165719.10495@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Sender: usenet@martha.utcc.utk.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 16:57:19 GMT
Does anyone have any experience using SAS through an X implimentation
(like CubX) running under Nextstep? I understand SAS is not available for
Nextstep.
Does anyone know if SAS is going to go back to Nextstep?
Tami
tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu
Univ. of Tenn., Knoxville
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@tms-gmbh.de
Subject: Re: Color Panel Behavior?
Message-ID: <CMnsnL.1Ap@tms-gmbh.de>
Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de
Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <2lp9qt$7sv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:38:08 GMT
In article <2lp9qt$7sv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
(Alvin Jee) writes:
> Hello all!
>
> I noticed that one corner of the color well in the Color
Panel get "clipped"
> off when I move the sliders in the CMYK mode. Even the chips
of color I drag
> out have the upper right corner clipped off. Anybody know what
this is for? I'm
> running 3.2 on Intel hardware if that make a difference. This
doesn't happen on
Hello,
take a closer look on the diverent types of color, the different
definitions ( RGB,CMYK, Pantone) have differnt reprsentions in
the colorwell. It s to sow what type of color you have!
Hope it helps
Hans
From: garth@cs.swarthmore.edu (Garth Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: changing title on terminal windows
Date: 14 Mar 1994 17:22:20 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Message-ID: <2m26gc$1s8@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
References: <2luff8$t0i@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
tmyers@unlinfo.unl.edu (tim myers) writes:
> I'm using the Terminal app. to open telnet sessions to several other
> machines for monitoring. It would be REALLY handy to be able to change the
> window title to the name of the machine I am telneted to.
Use the Set Title command in the Shell menu.
Garth
From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer can't find nntp server
Date: 14 Mar 1994 17:51:30 GMT
Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Richmond, BC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m2872$h0c@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com>
References: <2lsdib$ous@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2lsdib$ous@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I downloaded NewsGrazer75 (FAT) from cs.orst.edu onto my machine at
home.
> This machine is connected to University throught TransSys PNI (SLIP).
> I have entered the IP address of the Universities nntp server
> (128.91.200.1) in the Grazers preference panel, but when it starts
> up I get the following error message:
>
> Can't locate nntp server machine 128.91.200.1 please change your
Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.
>
> But I CAN telnet directly to that address from my NeXT without any
problems.
>
> Any clues?
>
I was having the same problem until I realized that NewGrazer wants the
actual name of the NNTP server - the IP address on its own doesn't work
(for me, anyways). So, you'll have to set up your DNS (if you haven't
already). Unfortunately, this slows things down (again, for me anyway),
because it has to reference the name server each and every time it gets a
new title to scan for new messages takes a long time as a new title is
sent a bit better than once a second. But hey, it sure beats nn.
Martin
From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer can't find nntp server
Date: 14 Mar 1994 17:53:13 GMT
Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Richmond, BC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m28a9$h0d@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com>
References: <2lsdib$ous@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2lsdib$ous@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I downloaded NewsGrazer75 (FAT) from cs.orst.edu onto my machine at
home.
> This machine is connected to University throught TransSys PNI (SLIP).
> I have entered the IP address of the Universities nntp server
> (128.91.200.1) in the Grazers preference panel, but when it starts
> up I get the following error message:
>
> Can't locate nntp server machine 128.91.200.1 please change your
Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.
>
> But I CAN telnet directly to that address from my NeXT without any
problems.
>
> Any clues?
>
I was having the same problem until I realized that NewGrazer wants the
actual name of the NNTP server - the IP address on its own doesn't work
(for me, anyways). So, you'll have to set up your DNS (if you haven't
already). Unfortunately, this slows things down (again, for me anyway),
because it has to reference the name server each and every time it gets a
new title to scan for new messages takes a long time as a new title is
sent a bit better than once a second. But hey, it sure beats nn.
Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Character Encoding
In-Reply-To: tim.romano@satalink.com's message of Sun, 6 Mar 94 10:32:00 -0640
Message-ID: <BYER.94Mar14103651@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <2lades$3ok@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <1.5101.2592.0N27BFAC@satalink.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:36:51 GMT
Tim Romano writes:
Tim> I posted several questions during the last month which involved
Tim> NeXTstep support for UNICODE, but got no replies. I am wondering if, in
Tim> the context of this discussion on "Character Encoding", someone who
Tim> knows about these things might say a few words regarding NS and
Tim> UNICODE.
Tim> To what extent does NS support UNICODE? How can applications, e.g. a
Tim> database application, take advantage of this support?
At the low level, Display PostScript can be made to support a UNICODE
encoded font. While not a trivial task, it's also not too difficult. Level
2 Display PostScript supports the composite font mechanism, which is
extremely flexible. Someone may have already hacked up a composite font to
use an arbitrary Type 1 font in a UNICODE encoding.
At the AppKit level, you would need 16-byte character support. I don't know
if it's found it's way into the base version yet, but is certainly present
in the "-J" NEXTSTEP versions.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 12 Mar 1994 11:07:10 GMT
Organization: the Borg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ls7ou$119@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> WriteUp review. Bear in mind I havent been using this very long, but I
thought
> it might help some one...
>
> - NO UNDERLINE!!!!
> Man, I thought after WriteNow 1.0 I would never again see a word pro
> cessor without underlines. Worse yet, if you import stuff in with
> underlines, the import has no underlines.... This is a serious draw
> back...
>
This is a wise decision, underlining is an horrible invention which makes most
type-setting people shiver of disgust. That AFS uses this method to abandon it
is a Good Thing... :-)))
When I received my copy of Diagram! this week and I saw that because of much
requests of users they had incorporated underlining I could hardly resist the
urge to fire up IB and remove this from the menu... :-)
Annard
--
Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth.
- Annard Brouwer
annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
In-Reply-To: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 11 Mar 94 19:51:45 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:58:39 GMT
(Take with a wagging finger and a smile :-)
John Kheit writes:
John> - NO UNDERLINE!!!! Man, I thought after WriteNow 1.0 I would never
John> again see a word pro cessor without underlines. Worse yet, if you
John> import stuff in with underlines, the import has no underlines....
John> This is a serious draw back...
Underline is a serious typeographic no-no. A holdover from those typewriter
days when you has to switch balls to get the correct font. So the lazy just
underlined.
John> - Also, no other cool font stylings. I personally rarely if ever use
John> these styles, but sometimes they come in quite handy: SmallCaps, Stri
John> kethru, double underline, Outline, Shadow, and redline. These should
John> be included because when importing from other wordprocessors like
John> WordPerfect and Word, You'll want the imported doc to look like the
John> original.
SmallCaps as done on other machines is a gross hack. To do small caps
properly, you have to switch to a small caps font. Outline and Shadow are
things that "shouldn't oughta happen to a nice font like that..." Although
I must admit the Mac ATM Shadow looks really nice :-)
I don't know what people would use strike-through or redline for - it's a
shame to do something like that to a character. Double underline? Two
wrongs don't make a right.
John> Welp, all and all its a good start, but some serious holes exist. To
John> me, most serious are the ommission of footnotes and underlining. Its
John> promissing and better than WordPerfect, in my opinion, for doing gen
John> eral duty stuff.
Well, given that Greg is a stickler for good typography, if underlining is
really missing, it's not surprising. Since you shouldn't be using it anyway
:-), I don't think it's a "major" hole.
As for importing those other formats, certainly some things can be
translated into their proper equivalents. The other things, as is proper,
should be simply forgotten. The trouble with adding a feature such as
double underlining is that somebody would actually use it!
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Color Panel Behavior?
Message-ID: <1994Mar14.180319.5182@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <2lp9qt$7sv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:03:19 GMT
In article <2lp9qt$7sv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> alvin@cse.ucsc.edu writes:
>Hello all!
>
> I noticed that one corner of the color well in the Color Panel get
>"clipped" off when I move the sliders in the CMYK mode. Even the chips
>of color I drag out have the upper right corner clipped off. Anybody
>know what this is for? I'm running 3.2 on Intel hardware if that make
>a difference. This doesn't happen on my 2.1 cube, though...
>
>--
>Alvin Jee
>e-mail: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
>NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
There are three different chip styles for color: There's a square one,
for RGB color, there's the ``dog-eared'' one for CMYK color, and one
with a grey ring around it that denotes a Pantone(r) color. So, what
that means is: RGB black and CMYK black are very different WRT to
color output (like to a NeXT Color Printer). What you get with RGB
black is a ruddy dark black (grey is a red-brown) while CMYK black is
black because there is conversion happening here (CMY=RGB-1) note: no
K.
The RGB and HSB colors are ``device-independent'' color and the CMYK
color is ``device-dependant'' colors.
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer can't find nntp server
Date: 14 Mar 1994 17:54:09 GMT
Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2m28c1$h0h@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com>
In article <2lsdib$ous@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I downloaded NewsGrazer75 (FAT) from cs.orst.edu onto my machine at
home.
> This machine is connected to University throught TransSys PNI (SLIP).
> I have entered the IP address of the Universities nntp server
> (128.91.200.1) in the Grazers preference panel, but when it starts
> up I get the following error message:
>
> Can't locate nntp server machine 128.91.200.1 please change your
Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.
>
> But I CAN telnet directly to that address from my NeXT without any
problems.
>
> Any clues?
>
I was having the same problem until I realized that NewGrazer wants the
actual name of the NNTP server - the IP address on its own doesn't work
(for me, anyways). So, you'll have to set up your DNS (if you haven't
already). Unfortunately, this slows things down (again, for me anyway),
because it has to reference the name server each and every time it gets a
new title to scan for new messages takes a long time as a new title is
sent a bit better than once a second. But hey, it sure beats nn.
Martin
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Date: 14 Mar 1994 19:24:52 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA
Message-ID: <2m2dm4$a4u@news.duke.edu>
References: <2m173o$8ji@agate.berkeley.edu>
Izumi Ohzawa writes
> Please forward your sources and brief usage to current maintainer of
> Opener.app, Denise Blakeley <blake015@mc.duke.edu>. He has been
> very responsive, and in fact, *he* contacted me when I posted a
> note about munged mcvert. No sense sitting on it just wishing.
Not to poop on Izumi when he's trying to give me a compliment or anything, but
I'm a "she"... :-)
Denise
--
Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar
Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 286-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 14 Mar 1994 14:22:36 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2m2dhs$9uq@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
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NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
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For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
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The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
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etc.) that may also be of interest.
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This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
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Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
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moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
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Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
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Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
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NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
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and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
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Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Message-ID: <CMo7Ip.JIn@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
References: <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr> <CMn0DK.K8C@csn.org> <2m173o$8ji@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:59:12 GMT
In article <2m173o$8ji@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@mindseye.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>In article <CMn0DK.K8C@csn.org> rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt) writes:
>>In article <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) writes:
>>>> - Munged mcvert to create only the data fork of a MacBinary file
>>>> instead of all resource forks, since this is the only portion
>>>> needed to open these files on a NeXT (this concerns .hqx files)
>
>>>Does this mean that if you want to get, say, a font which has some part of its
>>>definition in the resource fork, you will not be able to get the file
>>>correctly?
>>
>>If you're having problems with Opener and font files (ie: no resource fork
>>files), get a copy of the Unix command line utility macutil from the
>>umich Mac archive. It will deBinHex, UnStuff, and also uncompress
>>CompactorPro files...And, it lets you determine which forks you want...
>>
>>I wish they'd incorporate macutil into Opener...
>
>Please forward your sources and brief usage to current maintainer of
>Opener.app, Denise Blakeley <blake015@mc.duke.edu>. He has been
>very responsive, and in fact, *he* contacted me when I posted a
>note about munged mcvert. No sense sitting on it just wishing.
I have already contacted Denise about this...I have modified my version
of Opener to use hexbin and macunpack instead of unsit and mcvert...However,
I haven't yet forwarded the app to Denise, as I am trying to get Opener
to recognize CompactorPro files (.cpt). macunpack will also open these.
I have followed the instructions precisely for adding a new file format,
yet Opener doesn't acknowledge it. Any ideas?
>I think it would be helpful for Denise if you could provide
>command lines (with appropriate options) that create, from BinHex,
>MacBinary file, data fork file, and resource fork file, so he
>can incorporate them into the Opener.table file.
I plan to forward the source and man pages...basically, if you enter either
hexbin or macunpack as a command with -3 as an option, it will write all
three forks...
>From your descriptions of macutil, it looks like it should replace
>mcvert entirely.
Yeah...macunpack and hexbin are much more flexible than unsit and mcvert. In
fact, macunpack is based on unsit...
>Opener.app is table driven (via Opener.app/Opener.table), so
>it may not be easy to configure via Preferences what to do
>with .hqx files. Given that, the most reasonable thing
>for Opener to do with .hqx file is to decode BinHex into
>all three formats: MacBinary, data fork, and resource fork with
>.bin, <none> , and .rsrc extentions, respectively.
>This will probably require 2 or 3 invocations of macutil, but
>that should be acceptable as the default behavior, and everyone
>can pick whatever he/she needs.
I figure that Opener should just write all three and the user can decide
which fork he/she needs...macunpack and hexbin write the files as follows:
filename.data (data fork)
filename.info (info fork)
filename.rsrc (resource fork)
This is how I have my version set up...Now if only I could get it to work
with CompactorPro archives!!! If anyone has added a file-type to Opener and
has any idea why my addition of a .cpt filetype isn't working, please let
me know...I added cpt to Opener.table, to Controller.m, and dropped the
icon into the TIFF suitcase in IB...I also added the necessary files to
Project Builder and compiled...Nothing...any thoughts?
>
>--
>Izumi Ohzawa [ $BBg_78^=;(B ]
>USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
>Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
>Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail OK)
Thanks for your help!
-Rob
rawyatt@csn.org (TEXT ONLY!!!)
rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 14 Mar 1994 20:39:58 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2m2i2u$4t1@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
>> I don't know what people would use strike-through or redline for - it's a
We use it, along with bold, to mark changes in a review copy of a document.
Strike-thru the deletions, bold the additions. It makes it easy for the
reviewer to see the "was" and "is" on a single page. And the struck-thru
text is still quite readable.
mark
From: rhodes@rhodes.es.vt.edu (Tim Rhodes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: changing title on terminal windows
Date: 14 Mar 1994 21:30:50 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <2m2l2a$dmd@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <2lut3n$jmn@nic-nac.CSU.net> <1994Mar13.163432.2468@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Stephen Fitzpatrick (sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk) wrote:
: Nicer to be able to set the title automatically when you telnet:
: e.g.
: telnet jove
: sets the title of the Terminal window to "jove". I don't think this
: is possible with Terminal (correct me if I'm wrong, I'd like to use
: it too), but I do think you can do it with Stuart, most usefully
: by including escape seqeunces in your shell prompt. (Check Stuart's
: docs.)
I have a util that I got of the net called osc. I think it was put together
to change the title of xterm windows. In playing with this, it works with
Stuart (but not Terminal.app). If you serached you ~/bin directory first
you could have a shell script called telnet that invoked osc and then telneted
(using the complete path name) to the target host.
I don't know where I found this, but if it can't be found again, I'll be
happy to uuencode it and post it. It's only about 2k and runs under 3.0.
--
Tim Rhodes ................................... Tim.Rhodes@vt.edu
Sr Systems Engineer .......................... rhodes@rhodes.es.vt.edu
Virginia Tech ................................ NeXTMail accepted
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 14 Mar 1994 21:39:30 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2m2lii$kna@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Underline often denotes a vector for someone typesetting academic
documents. So, it does have some use.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Date: 14 Mar 1994 21:49:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m2m4g$ir9@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2m2dm4$a4u@news.duke.edu>
In article <2m2dm4$a4u@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley) writes:
>Izumi Ohzawa writes
>
>> Please forward your sources and brief usage to current maintainer of
>> Opener.app, Denise Blakeley <blake015@mc.duke.edu>. He has been
>> very responsive, and in fact, *he* contacted me when I posted a
>> note about munged mcvert. No sense sitting on it just wishing.
>
>Not to poop on Izumi when he's trying to give me a compliment or anything, but
>I'm a "she"... :-)
>
>Denise
I already sent an apology to Denise, but here's the public version.
I am sorry, Denise, for this mistake.
Also, in case anyone is wondering, I am 'he'.
Izumi is in most cases a female name for Japanese, and I also had my
share of these problems. :-)
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Re: WriteUp reviews?
Message-ID: <CMHK2y.34p@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
References: <1994Mar10.031512.4735@mrk.com> <2lnhvfINNa85@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 05:47:22 GMT
In article <2lnhvfINNa85@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu writes:
[munch]
>
>That is all for now. These are first impressions and some might
>be my fault for not taking the time to find out how things
>work. In any case, WriteUp is a typical 1.0 release, quirks,
>missing features, GREAT potential. I still can not give up
>Executor/MS Word to go native.
>
>Is it worth $99 (Academic): Almost. In no way more than that.
>However, if enough early adopters buy it. AFS will have an
>incentive to improve it. Don't let it go the WordPerfect way.
>
I just received my copy of WriteUp. I'm not sorry I spent $99 on
the product, but mostly that is because I want to encourage AFS
to keep working on this product. This is still really a 0.8 or 0.9
product, a photocopied proof for the manual, more than a few rough
edges exposed in just an hour or two banging at it.
The good news is that it hasn't crashed or behaved really badly,
but the bad news is that if you are expecting to be able to read
anything but very plain-Jane WriteNow files, you'll have to wait
for a later release. WriteUp failed to correctly read more than
half of the WriteNow files I tried to convert. A fairly plain
1 page memo ended up being a 58 page document with each line
on a new page. An exam with a few greek symbols in it turned
out to be greek from that point on. And if you try to convert
a file which is in landscape mode, nothing discernable happens
except a large number of blank pages.
Other points which disconcerted included things like if you
change fonts and then delete the first word in the new font,
you find that all of the text is changed to be the old font.
I was unable to make the undo feature work correctly. I 'cut'
a section of text and then pressed ctrl-z and the text wasn't
returned as suggested in the help file.
I won't go on listing the little quirks I found in my first
session, but suffice it to say that I won't be using this
word processor until it stabilizes. On the other hand, I do
think that AFS intends to do the right thing and we will
eventually have a great product here. I certainly agree
with Wassim that this software has great promise. I'm not
sorry I gave AFS my money, and I'd do it again. But that also
indicates my confidence in their ability to finish it.
Steve
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# Steven M. Boker # "Two's bifurcation #
# boker@virginia.edu # but three's chaotic" #
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From: mbecker@cs.uml.edu (Mark Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP -- Mathematica 1.2, NS 2.1, WriteNow, MALFUNCTION -- HELP [LONG!]
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs
Date: 14 Mar 1994 21:11:14 GMT
Organization: UMass-Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2m2jti$3vs@ulowell.uml.edu>
Summary: problems problems problems
Keywords: Mathematica NextStep WriteNow Malfunction
Hello *
Please forgive the wide initial cross-posting; I wanted to hit groups
that seemed relevent to the software problem I'm having. Note that the
Followup-To has been set to comp.sys.next.bugs.
Everything below is relevent to an '030 mono cube with NS 2.1,
Mathematica 1.2, and WriteNow. This particular problem resulted in a
LOT of error messages which have been compressed, uuencoded and appended
to this message.
A couple of days ago I was typing up a short document in WriteNow [WN],
using Mathematica [Mma] 1.2 to create graphs for insertion.
I was trying to get an equation from Mma into WN and things weren't
going well because of a difference between fonts; one font in Mma and
the other in WN.
At one point I got a little frustrated. Clicked on Fonts. Clicked on
All Default Styles. Mma pops up a panel:
Really Reset to Default Styles?
Do you realy want to reset all the Styles to their
default settings? This action cannot be undone.
And I clicked Ok. My thinking was that it was only for *this* session.
Since I wasn't logged in as root, how much could Mma do?
From there I remember clicking on a cell.. and then things got ..sick..
The entire contents of the cell started to flash and disk activity went
'way up.
All Mathematica-associated objects disappeared off the screen after
about thirty seconds of disk thrash. Now the following situation
exists:
* None of the font attributes under Font are clickable for any new
window. Opening an old file darkens the font attributes so I can
click on them.. but I am very leery of doing so.
* /usr/adm/messages is loaded with Mathematica error messages, ~200K
worth. A uuencoded compressed file of them is appended to this
message. Fortunately, compress gives me about 18K of material.
* Starting a new Mma session produces a an error messages in the Console:
*** hashtable: count differs after rehashing; probably indicates a
broken invarient: there are x and y such as isEqual(x, y) is TRUE but
hash(x) != hash (y)
The above is repeated for everything entered, even "5+5" .
What I have done so far:
A comparision of sum's between the on-disk Mma and a backup done last
December. There are no differences anywhere in the /NextApps/Mathematica.app
tree or in /NextLibrary/Mathematica/* from the current system to the
backup on optical disk.
After making a backup of ~/.NeXT, I wiped that out, logged out, logged
back in, and the Mma problem is still present.
There are no Mathematica-associated things in the defaults database
(dread). At least none that I recognize.
---
Yes, I do have a BuildDisk backup of the entire system from last
December. While I could rebuild the system from that backup, that seems
little extreme. Can I avoid doing it?
---
The text from /usr/adm/messages is below my .signature.
Hints on whats wrong, pointers, *anything* on this problem would be
appreciated. Is there an archive of these things somewhere?
Thanks -
Mark
P.S. Clicking on the Help button pops up a help window.. and the
following message appears in the Console:
crusty Mathematica[515]: Assertion failed: NO REAL window during
lockFocus on a view.
The files MathematicaHelp.ma and MathematicaHelp.mb are in
/NextApps/Mathematica.app and I can load them into Mathematica. But they
don't come up in a Help window. Suggestions and ideas are welcome.
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
| Mark Becker <mbecker@cs.uml.edu> | #include <std.disclaimer>|
| | No NeXT Mail yet, please |
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
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end
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Statistical software - SAS, SPSS etc?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 21:21:52 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2m2khg$9rg@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <2m0hvj$epi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Shazam is also available for the NeXT. To find out more about Shazam
check out comp.soft-sys.shazam.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: adding default applications
Message-ID: <CMo5yr.1Bn@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994Mar12.145803.5710@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:25:38 GMT
In article <1994Mar12.145803.5710@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Couple of days ago I asked how to add applications to the
> Tools Inspector. I got a few answers, with all the same
> comment: it is not possible. The application it self has
> to do that.
>
> That was all, Willem
There may be a way for known apps, though.
try to extend Unknown.app which offers icon.images to the FileViewer for
various file-types otherwise unknown to the FileViewer ( like *.uu ).
It should be possible to make Unknown.app the 'Receiver' of the file and let it
simply perform an open to the final destination application.
I have not done it, but it sounds possible.
Maybe some one with more programming experience is willing to comment on this?
J rgen
---
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Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
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== The revolution will not be posted - Juergen 1994 ==
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flash!jon@myxa.com
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <CMntKM.9z@dsinc!flash>
Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry)
Organization: Who Needs It?
References: <2m1a33$q2@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:57:58 GMT
In article <2m1a33$q2@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert
Nicholson) writes:
> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
> >kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> >WriteUp remembers panel positions, but AFS said it doesn't do this because
> >its infeasible... Im not sure why they feel this way. WriteNow does save
> >window positions for each document and I like this feature...but maybe its
> >just me.
>
> It's probably got to so with defaults. and having a lot them.
>
Perhaps WriteNow encodes the window position in the document itself. Since AFS
seems to have "format neutrality" as a goal, this wouldn't be possible.
--
Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 14 Mar 94 22:18:18 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.763683498@uiuc.edu>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <2m2lii$kna@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Ivo Welch writes:
>Underline often denotes a vector for someone typesetting academic
>documents. So, it does have some use.
On top of that, I think it's ridiculous for other folks to decide what
features are aesthetically pleasing for me. As ugly as a double
underline, smallcaps, shadow or outline may look to some, MS Word/Mac
(and I think Word Perfect/Mac) documents will not be able to be
converted accurately without being able to do these things. All in
all, I think it's for me and my readers to decide what's most legible
and what isn't.
With all the smilies in the past posts on WU's missing typographic
features, I lost track of what people were actually saying versus what
they were joking about.
After reading these reviews, I'm suprised so many problems got past
either the beta-testing group or the AFS programmers before public
release. Undo not working? No underline? Turning a document into
all-Greek characters past the point where a few Greek characters were
inserted? Improperly converting a one-page WriteNow file into a
58-page file?
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Color Panel Behavior?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 23:14:35 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2m2r4r$kvm@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <2lp9qt$7sv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1994Mar14.180319.5182@altsys.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes:
[..question about different types of colors in well..]
>There are three different chip styles for color: There's a square one,
>for RGB color, there's the ``dog-eared'' one for CMYK color, and one
>with a grey ring around it that denotes a Pantone(r) color. So, what
>that means is: RGB black and CMYK black are very different WRT to
>color output (like to a NeXT Color Printer). What you get with RGB
>black is a ruddy dark black (grey is a red-brown) while CMYK black is
>black because there is conversion happening here (CMY=RGB-1) note: no
^^^^^^^^^^^
>K.
Close, very close, but no cigar! :-)
The conversion that happens for the NeXT Color printer (and other Level 2
devices) is actually a LOT more complicated than RGB-1, and yes, there is
undercolor removal and you do get black generation, so there _should_ be
some true black in the output you're getting. Actually, from looking at
the JobInit.ps file for the NCP, RGB=0 should yield true black. Of course,
this would change if someone were to change those procedures.
(excerpted from /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Drivers/NXColorBJ/JobInit.ps)
...
{dup mul} setblackgeneration
{dup mul dup 1 ne {2 div} if} setundercolorremoval
...
>The RGB and HSB colors are ``device-independent'' color and the CMYK
>color is ``device-dependant'' colors.
Right on! (at least for NS 3.x)
Marcel
(P.S.: You knew I wouldn't be able to resist... :-)
(PPS.: Usability studies have shown that all this is impossible...
oops, wrong group :-)))
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 14 Mar 1994 23:41:04 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2m2smg$6lu@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Scott Byer writes
> Underline is a serious typeographic no-no.
Maybe so. There are in fact many things for which it is the (or an)
accepted convention (eg to denote a vector). In any case, why should
AFS impose its taste on its users?
> SmallCaps as done on other machines is a gross hack. To do small
> caps properly, you have to switch to a small caps font.
OK, so do it properly. But do it.
> I don't know what people would use strike-through or redline for
> - it's a shame to do something like that to a character.
Strike-through and redline are specifically used in legal documents.
They have very particular meanings that are widely understood.
WP built its empire on providing functionality such as this. The
wisdom of not providing it for aesthetic purity reasons is dubious.
Ciao, Stefano
---
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084
Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007
Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 15 Mar 1994 00:02:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Mar14160233@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <2m2lii$kna@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In-reply-to: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu's message of 14 Mar 1994 21:39:30 GMT
Idiotic as underlining is, I send manuscripts to journals that
*require* italics to be underlined, everything to be double-spaced,
figure legend separated from figures, and so on. Usually, I write
drafts in LaTeX that are (alomst) publication quality, then, when the
draft is complete, I sit down and uglify it.
I use "doublespace.sty" and so on. Someone ought to write a
"anachronistic-editors-who-will-end-up-on-the-dust-heap-of-history-or-at-least-go-the-way-of-dinosaurs-and-manually-typeset-newspapers.sty"
Sigh, tirade off,
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: jason.fosback@psca.com (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: best POP3 client for NSI 3.2?
Date: 14 Mar 1994 23:05:27 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <2m2qjn$rtv@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <1994Mar14.070553.19743@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
In article <1994Mar14.070553.19743@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
reinders@othello.math.uni-hannover.de (Martin Reinders) writes:
> I'm also using PopOver on my NeXTstation (black, NS 3.1) and it
> DOES delete the mail on the source machine.
Yes, this is true. However, the preference moved from the main
preferences under PopOver 1.0, to a by-host level delete option in Popover
1.1. If you double-click on one of your hosts (or go to add one), there
is a check box underneath the password field, and next to the protocol
pop-up button. It says "Delete mail after receipt". Make sure it's
checked.
I gues next time around I'll put in a special section for this in the
help.
BTW, the new version of PopOver has a progress gauge in the icon. Puck it
up if you haven't yet! It also supports IMAP servers.
-jason
____________________________________________________________
Jason Fosback, Systems Engineer | No sir, I didn't like it
--- Paradigm Systems Corp --- | -R&S
Internet: jason_fosback@psca.com | Star Trek:
NeXT mail: jason_fosback@psca.com | The NeXT Generation...
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From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: More PS fonts for Black Hardware?
Message-ID: <1994Mar10.234748.19121@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <2lnivb$jgo@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 23:47:48 GMT
In article <2lnivb$jgo@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve
McCullagh) writes:
* I'm looking for additional fonts for my slab. Who sells these
For NEXTSTEP format fonts, we [Trilithon Software] are an authorised
Adobe reseller and supply Adobe fonts for NEXTSTEP.
For Type 1 PostScript fonts for NEXTSTEP:
Write To: Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 325-0767
FAX: (415) 325-0768
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
* (better still, are there any ftp sites with PS fonts?) and
* where can I find them?
There are a bunch of NEXTSTEP format fonts on
sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/nextgraphics/fonts
Based on discussion some months back, some of the fonts appear to
be knockoffs of Adobe fonts and their legal status is questionable.
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Accessing fonts on my HP 4/Postscript
Message-ID: <1994Mar11.193514.21572@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <schwett.94Mar10194345@differencengine>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 19:35:14 GMT
In article <schwett.94Mar10194345@differencengine> schwett@differencengine
writes:
* I've got a LaserJet IV with the Postscript SIMM (essentially
* a 4M) and 10 megs of RAM. My problem is that I can't use
* any of the fonts on it. It prints just fine using the PS
* fonts that came with NeXTStep, but I would very much like
* to be able to use the resident fonts.
* Do I need screen equivalents to do this?
* Do I need to muck with a PPD file?
You need a collection of fonts for NEXTSTEP which matches the
complement of fonts in the printer. The current collection which
matches this is the Adobe Type Basics. It has sixty five faces,
including the Standard Thirty Five[*], and includes two of the
Tekton faces. It retails for $198.
[*] For those unfamiliar with this term, the ``Standard Thirty
Five'' refers to the set of ROM fonts found in most LaserWriters
such as the IINTX, IIf/IIg, Pro630, and so on.
For NEXTSTEP format fonts, we [Trilithon Software] are an authorised
Adobe reseller and supply Adobe fonts for NEXTSTEP. We can also
obtain some fonts from other vendors and package them for NEXTSTEP.
For Type 1 PostScript fonts for NEXTSTEP:
Write To: Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 325-0767
FAX: (415) 325-0768
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Accessing fonts on my HP 4/Postscript
Message-ID: <1994Mar11.194225.21649@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <2loscr$kpc@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 19:42:25 GMT
In article <2loscr$kpc@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm
Shift, Inc.) writes:
* In article <schwett.94Mar10194345@differencengine>
* schwett@differencengine writes:
* > This may belong in comp.sys.next.somewhere_else,
* > but here it is.
* >
* > I've got a LaserJet IV with the Postscript SIMM
* > (essentially a 4M) and 10 megs of RAM.
* >
* > My problem is that I can't use any of the fonts on it.
* >
* > It prints just fine using the PS fonts that came with
* > NeXTStep, but I would very much like to be able to
* > use the resident fonts.
* >
* > Do I need screen equivalents to do this?
* > Do I need to muck with a PPD file?
* Actually, Mark I believe you need the actual font outlines
* installed on your system. It's called the Adobe Plus pack
* and will give you the balance of the 39 typefaces found in
* a majority of PostScript printers.
I called Adobe Dealer Sales [one more time around on that ol'
geetar, as Arlo would say] and they informed me [yet again -- they
must be getting sick of the requests for confirmation by now] that
they do not make or sell the Plus Pack and have not done so for
almost a year.
Their opinion was that there might just possibly be some left-over
inventory of Plus Pack fonts for NEXTSTEP lurking somewhere like
NeXT/PC/Connection. But in general, there is no Plus Pack. Please
take note -- No More Plus Pack. None. Obolete as the Zumbooruk.
As a corollary, Adobe also do not make the Adobe Type Set 1, 2, 3
packages any more.
What's current is a package called Adobe Type Basics -- it has
sixty five faces, including the Standard Thirty Five[*], and includes
two of the Tekton faces. It retails for $198.
[*] For those unfamiliar with this term, the ``Standard Thirty
Five'' refers to the set of ROM fonts found in most LaserWriters
such as the IINTX, IIf/IIg, Pro630, and so on.
For NEXTSTEP format fonts, we [Trilithon Software] are an authorised
Adobe reseller and supply Adobe fonts for NEXTSTEP. We can also
obtain some fonts from other vendors and package them for NEXTSTEP.
For Type 1 PostScript fonts for NEXTSTEP:
Write To: Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 325-0767
FAX: (415) 325-0768
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flash!jon@myxa.com
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <CMoLAq.H8@dsinc!flash>
Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry)
Organization: Who Needs It?
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 00:56:50 GMT
In article <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com
(Scott Byer) writes:
> As for importing those other formats, certainly some things can be
> translated into their proper equivalents. The other things, as is proper,
> should be simply forgotten. The trouble with adding a feature such as
> double underlining is that somebody would actually use it!
>
How about a user-defined mapping scheme to translate typographic no-no's into
formats usable in WriteUp? (underline=bold, etc). It might not satisfy folks
who want a "lossless" translation, but at least it would be consistent.
--
Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep version of Mosaic???
Message-ID: <1994Mar14.204813.170861@eros.embl-heidelberg.de>
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Date: 14 Mar 94 20:48:12 +0100
References: <2lhf9v$1vs@garuda.csulb.edu>
In article <2lhf9v$1vs@garuda.csulb.edu> writes:
> And
> Charles.M.Dudley.<warrior@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu> spake unto the masses:
>
> >MiNUG has a copy of OmniWeb that is functional inside of the NeXT_Archive.
>
> Am I to understand that OmniWeb has been posted to an archive site? If so,
> exactly what archive site? I'm really interested in checking it out...
>
You can get the full release (which has a Services addition to view .jpg,
tiff, .gif, etc) from:
ftp.omnigroup.com in pub/software
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387534
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
Newsgroups: comp.security.unix,comp.infosystems.gopher,comp.sys.next.software
From: longyear@netcom.com (Alfred Longyear)
Subject: Re: Unescapable telnet?
Message-ID: <longyearCMorFv.HM@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2m1qn7$7tn@garuda.csulb.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 03:09:31 GMT
vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) writes:
>Is there a version of telnet that doesnt allow the user to escape back to
>the telnet prompt, but instead simply quits them out of telnet? I dont
>want people being able to telnet to arbitrary addresses by escaping out of
>a telnet connection they get while using a public gopher login.
>Hopefully something that will compile under NeXTstep 3.0.
Perhaps the easiest solution to the problem is to simply get the source to
telnet client and make any changes that you wish to disable the escape
processing. I would not delete the entire escape sequence as there are
parameters which do not involve "close" and "open", such as setting the
escape character, mode (line/char) switches, etc. Those you will probably
wish to keep. What you would like to disable is the "open", and have
"close" do a exit once it has closed the socket.
You can find the telnet client source using archie for the nearest BSD
archive site. Look for "telnet".
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs freezes under mouse-X
Date: 15 Mar 1994 03:37:43 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Mar14193743@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
I do the following:
1.) Start X
2.) Start Emacs
3.) Exit back to NeXTstep
4.) Back into X
Emacs now no longer accepts keyboard input. I am using emacs-19.22
and have applied the .twmrc fix mentioned in the help for mouse-X
(same thing happens without this fix, in addition to other stuff like
twm freezing). Any hints, fixes, or whatever. I do need to be able
to switch back and forth.
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: tcsh
In-Reply-To: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU's message of 14 Mar 1994 08:04:38 GMT
To: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C McAfee)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar14120044@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <9403082138.AA00359@pth3.bu.edu>
<CEDMAN.94Mar10104253@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<2m15qm$fv7@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:00:44 GMT
In article <2m15qm$fv7@Times.Stanford.EDU> mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C McAfee) writes:
In article <CEDMAN.94Mar10104253@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote:
>In article <9403082138.AA00359@pth3.bu.edu> Robert Singleton <bobs@PTH3.BU.EDU> writes:
> Where can I get a copy of tcsh for the NeXT? (NeXTSTep 3.1)
> Thanks very much.
>
> bob singleton
>Tcsh is not standard. It is a well intentioned but unfortunately
>doomed-to-fail attempt to make a reasonable shell out of csh. Zsh is
>compatible with sh, ksh, bash, pdksh and virtually every other non-csh
>shell on the planet. It has all the features of tcsh and more. You
>can find zsh2.4pl300 in ftp.sterling.com:/zsh. Just run buildzsh and
>it will configure and compile on a NS 3.[12] system automatically.
I have used tcsh for a few years and love it. It is fairly easy to
build from source code; for Sun, HP, Ultrix all that was needed
was a "./configure; make install". Haven't built it for NeXT recently
but can't imagine you running into too many problems.
Both recent tcsh and zsh compile just fine on recent NS versions.
I can't remember if tcsh is part of the GNU family or not..
No, it is not. Bash is the GNU shell.
Now don't get me wrong. I used tcsh myself for years because it has
nice interactive features and for a command line shell I'll take those
any day of the week over nice programming features even if it means
living with csh bugginess. But then I found zsh which has every
single interactive feature of tcsh (in addition to many very useful
ones of its own) _and_ programs in a reasonable and compatible manner.
If you have the choice there is absolutely no reason in the world to
use tcsh rather than zsh.
Carl Edman
From: aoki@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 15 Mar 1994 04:45:06 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <AOKI.94Mar14204508@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <2m2smg$6lu@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In-reply-to: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu's message of 14 Mar 1994 23:41:04 GMT
I don't want to sound like a fanatic, but so far, everything that
has been mentioned (that I noticed) can be done in *TeX*, without
much hassle; footnotes, underlining, tables, etc.
TeX is not WYSIWIG, but with a previewer, it's not that bad.
The output is really publication quality. Journals, books are sometimes
set by it. (real books like Cambridge UP)
for a logically minded person, I don't think the learning curve
is that steep. some macro package (such as latex) is probably
necessary tho, unless you are interested in the inner workings of TeX.
also it helps if there is someone who uses it around you.
Let's face it, one has to do a reasonable amount of wordprocessing.
it might be worthwhile to invest a little bit of time.
Also, TeX is free. All the tools come with NS.
I use TeX for anything resembling serious, trivial letters,
papers, etc. for anything real trivial, I just use Edit. (which
btw is fine for small jobs) ___Ken.
--
___Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp)
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.... on the road oDo .......
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 15 Mar 94 05:10:58 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.763708258@uiuc.edu>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <CMoLAq.H8@dsinc!flash>
Jonathan W. Hendry writes:
>How about a user-defined mapping scheme to translate typographic no-no's into
>formats usable in WriteUp? (underline=bold, etc). It might not satisfy folks
>who want a "lossless" translation, but at least it would be consistent.
I think providing lossless translations is leagues more important than
catering to a couple people's feelings on what looks good and what
doesn't. I can't imagine it would make WriteUp or AFS as a word
processing development house look good to continue to market the
product with substantial features like these missing.
Conversely, this sounds precisely like the kind of thing that a user's
individual preferences and choice of filters is great for--those who
want to actually change the document to make it look better for them
can make a small filter or macro to change underlining to italicizing
and whatever other changes they desire. Those that want the document
to remain as-is can simply not install this filter or macro (or
whatever).
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Accessing fonts on my HP 4/Postscript
Date: 15 Mar 1994 06:12:11 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2m3jjr$dd0@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <schwett.94Mar10194345@differencengine> <1994Mar11.193514.21572@trilithon.com>
In article <1994Mar11.193514.21572@trilithon.com>
henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) writes:
>[*] For those unfamiliar with this term, the ``Standard Thirty
>Five'' refers to the set of ROM fonts found in most LaserWriters
>such as the IINTX, IIf/IIg, Pro630, and so on.
That's Standard 35N. (Not to be confused with ... 35C?)
-=EPS=-
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages Reviews?
Date: 15 Mar 1994 00:25:40 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2m2va4$q6t@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Can someone post an opinion of Pages by Pages?
Is it usable or another beta version passing
as a 1.0 version?
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 15 Mar 1994 07:35:25 GMT
Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m3oft$ks6@Times.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CMntKM.9z@dsinc!flash>
Jonathan Hendry writes
|
| Perhaps WriteNow encodes the window position in the document itself.
| Since AFS seems to have "format neutrality" as a goal, this wouldn't be
| possible.
|
Why the heck not? Couldn't they just define a new RTF directive that only
WriteUp understands? About the only document format not rich enough to
embed this kind of information is plain ASCII.
---
Scott Roy
Department of Computer Science
Stanford University
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CDplayer that works under X?
Date: 15 Mar 1994 00:00:36 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2m2tr4$il@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2m26rh$eeg@paladin.american.edu>
eric@american.edu (Eric Prestemon) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>I spend enough of my time in X, and I like the CDplayer app enough, that I
>have realized how nice it would be to control my CDplayer without flipping
>back out of X all the time.
>
>Has anyone ported one of the existing Xplayers to Next? or ported the NeXT
>player to X?
>
>Thanks
>-Eric
Well there's xcdplayer on ftp.x.org and xmcd (Motif)
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Accessing fonts on my HP 4/Postscript
Message-ID: <CMp9sv.MIM@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <schwett.94Mar10194345@differencengine> <1994Mar11.193514.21572@trilithon.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 09:46:07 GMT
In article <1994Mar11.193514.21572@trilithon.com> henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) writes:
>In article <schwett.94Mar10194345@differencengine> schwett@differencengine
>writes:
>
> * I've got a LaserJet IV with the Postscript SIMM (essentially
> * a 4M) and 10 megs of RAM. My problem is that I can't use
> * any of the fonts on it. It prints just fine using the PS
> * fonts that came with NeXTStep, but I would very much like
> * to be able to use the resident fonts.
>
> * Do I need screen equivalents to do this?
>
> * Do I need to muck with a PPD file?
>You need a collection of fonts for NEXTSTEP which matches the
>complement of fonts in the printer. The current collection which
>matches this is the Adobe Type Basics. It has sixty five faces,
>including the Standard Thirty Five[*], and includes two of the
>Tekton faces. It retails for $198.
Well there is a PPD file for the HP4M, 4MP. It's one one of the Mac disks.
There are 2 in fact (300dpi and 600dpi). As for paying yet again for the
fonts, hasn't Adobe learned its lesson yet? One reason the 4M is more
expensive than the 4 is because of the Postcript fonts in there, so why
should someone have to pay twice. It's perhaps time for someone to deal with
Adobe in a way which ensures they won't get carried away.
[ ]
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: installing Mathematics -- password problem
Date: 15 Mar 1994 10:07:57 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m41dt$e37@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Mathematica won't work on my 25 MHz NeXT colorstation. I can install
mathematica from the floppies onto my 25 MHz NeXT monostation, but
installation from the same floppies onto my 25 MHz NeXT colorstaion
creates errors. I can erase all mathematica files and packages on the
monostation and install Mathematica from the floppies, and then
successfully run MathInstaller to set the license string. However, when I
try to do the same on the colorstation, I get the following error message
when I run MathInstaller and try to set the license string:
There is an error with the mathpass file
My copy of Mathematica 2.0.1 was origonally licensed to run on the
monostation. Is the password installer set to read my hard ethernet
address or something like that? If so, it would detect that the machine
is different. I can't figure out what else might be wrong. Anybody have
any ideas?
I'd like to shift all of my work over to the colorstation, but I can't
until I get the software working.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: simonson@zinfandel.u-strasbg.fr (Thomas Simonson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: trying to run OmniWeb on Nextstation (OS 2.1)
Date: 15 Mar 1994 10:00:26 GMT
Organization: Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg (France)
Message-ID: <2m40vq$l3o@thot.u-strasbg.fr>
--
Having unzipped and untarred OmniWeb on a Next station (OS version 2.1)
I click unsuccessfully on OmniWeb.app.... is there something obvious
I haven't done, or is there possibly a problem with OmniWeb under system
2.1?
Any help would be much appreciated (even though OmniWeb is still in beta)
Tom
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Institut de Biologie Moleculaire et Cellulaire
Universite Louis Pasteur
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From: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: tcsh
Message-ID: <1994Mar15.104256.6008@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
Organization: University of Oulu
References: <CEDMAN.94Mar14120044@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:42:56 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.94Mar14120044@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> But then I found zsh which has every single interactive feature
> of tcsh (in addition to many very useful ones of its own) _and_
> programs in a reasonable and compatible manner. If you have the
> choice there is absolutely no reason in the world to use tcsh
> rather than zsh.
Completion is rather better in tcsh :-). Unless I've misunderstood
the zsh docs, you can only specify one completion per command in
zsh, whereas if tcsh you can specify multiple completions (for
commands with multiple arguments).
--
Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O
Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) |
The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: Opener.app v3.1.2 now available at archive sites
Message-ID: <1994Mar14.202256.1684@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <2lmbls$bkh@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 20:22:56 GMT
In article <2lmbls$bkh@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
(Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> In article <1994Mar9.162437.9399@imag.fr>
> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) writes:
> >> - Munged mcvert to create only the data fork of a MacBinary file
> >> instead of all resource forks, since this is the only portion
> >> needed to open these files on a NeXT (this concerns .hqx files)
> >Does this mean that if you want to get, say, a font which has some part
> >of its definition in the resource fork, you will not be able to get the
> >file correctly?
>
> I am the one who did that munging. Is this true that Mac font files
> may contain some essential info in the resource fork without any
> equivalent info in the data fork? That sounds pretty brain-dead
> to me.
>
> The munging made it possible to open Mac WordPerfect files sent
> with BinHex encoding directly on my NeXT. BinHex'ed Mac MS Word
> files could also be opened fine using MS Word for Windoes, once
> de-binhexed using the new version of Opener, and sent to the PC
> via FTP.
>
> I believe that NeXT's Mac filesystem for reading Mac floppies
> and mounting LocalTalk file servers also work by presenting
> only the data fork in the Browser.
>
> Anyway, it won't be hard to modify mcvert to write out both data
> and resource forks to separate files, if you need access to the
> resource fork. That would be a nice feature, so please do it.
>
There is still ResDupmp.app, share ware by Scott L. Fields, I guess.
It just lets you open the ressouce fork and write whatever you select to a
odinary Unix file.
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Want to buy WordPerfect for NS/I
Message-ID: <Mar.15.07.32.22.1994.25288@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Date: 15 Mar 94 12:32:22 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Please contact me if you have a copy of WordPerfect for NS/I you want to sell.
Steven C. Perkins perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: installing Mathematics -- password problem
Date: 15 Mar 1994 13:11:17 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m4c5l$dd9@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <2m41dt$e37@nntp2.stanford.edu>
In article <2m41dt$e37@nntp2.stanford.edu> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU writes:
>
>My copy of Mathematica 2.0.1 was origonally licensed to run on the
>monostation. Is the password installer set to read my hard ethernet
>address or something like that?
Yes, that's how it works.
>I'd like to shift all of my work over to the colorstation, but I can't
>until I get the software working.
Call up WRI and ask them to transfer your license.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
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From: johns@eecg.toronto.edu (David Johns)
Subject: Accessing Webster using a line command
Message-ID: <1994Mar15.085134.27188@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Computer Engineering
Date: 15 Mar 94 13:51:34 GMT
I believe this is a faq but ...
Is it possible to access Webster using a line command?
Specifically, we would like to use Webster on some Sun workstations
(and terminals) that are networked to a NeXT.
Thanks, David Johns
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to get GatorFTP recognize gzip
Date: 15 Mar 1994 14:24:26 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m4geqINNmnb@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
When downloading many of the new files, the extension is .gz which
is for gzip/gunzip. (But of course, you all new that. :-) My problem
(well, one of them, my analyst is working on the others. :-) is that
GatorFTP is not gunzip'ing these files. I set the Workspace default to
gzip and gunzip, hoping that it would affect this, but it doesn't seem to.
How can I get GatorFTP to correctly unzip these files? BTW, Opener.app
opens them correctly when I double click on the file in the File Viewer.
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
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From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <1994Mar15.132915.19963@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <2m2lii$kna@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:29:15 GMT
In article <2m2lii$kna@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
>
> Underline often denotes a vector for someone typesetting academic
> documents. So, it does have some use.
>
> Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
> Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
> AGSM at UCLA
As do strikethrus. Our office uses them all the type in document revision
in FrameMaker to show what was has been removed and what has been
replaced. The "changebars" just show what has been changed but don't let
you know what was there in the first place unless you refer to previous
documents.
Personally, I like the changebars though.
--
Sincerely,
Neil Greene
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 09:49:54 -0600
From: crawford@nesteggs.com (Michael E. Crawford)
Message-ID: <9403151549.AA01092@nesteggs.com>
Subject: Typo Criminals: Was Re: WriteUp Review
How about:
An check box in the Preferences for WriteUp that reads " I wish to
commit typographic crimes or I use a lot of vectors or edited legal
documents in my work. Enable underlining & strikethrough."
And for importing foreign documents, have an Alert Panel pop up that
states:
"This document contains several egregious examples of typographic
incompetence. Should I translate them verbatim or enhance the
document with formally agreed conventions?" and then present the user
with Verbatim, Enhanced and Cancel buttons, where the Enhanced button
would invoke Jonathan Hendry's excellent idea:
>How about a user-defined mapping scheme to translate typographic
>no-no's into formats usable in WriteUp? (underline=bold, etc). It
>might not satisfy folks who want a "lossless" translation, but at
>least it would be consistent.
I would put a smiley somewhere in here, but I'm serious.
Michael Crawford
nesteggs
Houston ( no zoning here )
PostScript: I apologize in advance for drawing a corollary between an
issue in computerland and a real-world example. ;-]
jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>On top of that, I think it's ridiculous for other folks to decide
>what features are aesthetically pleasing for me. As ugly as a
>double underline, smallcaps, shadow or outline may look to some,
I suspect most of us live in cities with zoning. Does your city have
a billboard ordinance? How do you feel about a local government
delineating the aesthetic & functional use of land?
From: jlr@gnome.East.Sun.COM (Janet L. Rimlinger Sun Systems Engineer King of Prussia, PA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT TIFF Reader/Converter
Date: 15 Mar 1994 16:17:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2m4n24$gk9@dr-pepper.East.Sun.COM>
Keywords: TIFF Image NeXT Sun Converter
I am looking for a way to take screen dumps of a NeXT and put
them into an IslandPresents presentation on a Sun SPARCStation
LX.
What I Have Tried:
I used Grab.app and saved the file in TIFF (NeXT LZW format,
I believe). I copied the files onto a DOS formated floppy (of
course changing the file names to .tif instead of .tiff). I
loaded the floppy on a Sun and tried to read the file using
various versions of xv (which I was told could read NeXT TIFF)
and xtiff. I tried to compile a version of pbmplus with no
luck (and did not want to spend anymore time at this point).
I also changed the name back to .tiff just in case the
applications expected this extension.
What I would like:
A public domain application for the NeXT or Sun which is
guaranteed to read NeXT images generated by Grab.app and
saved in TIFF. This app should be able to then save/reformat
the NeXT TIFF file into a TIFF format which Sun can read, or
if a Sun app, it could convert the NeXT TIFF file to PostScript.
I could recapture the screen dumps on the NeXT and save as
PostScript but am afraid the files may be too large to fit
on a DOS floppy.
What I have available:
A NeXT Color station running NeXTStep 3.0.
A Sun SPARCStation LX running Solaris 2.3 and OW 3.3.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If I don't
get any responses, I'm guess I'll try the Grab.app to PostScript
method and hope for the best. Please respond to me directly.
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From: oscar@innocent-bystander
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X11R5 emulators
Date: 15 Mar 1994 18:34:13 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2m4v35$q32@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I'm looking for an X11 emulator for my mono nexstation. I have very
limited hard drive space(fluctuates between 15 meg's free to 6 meg's). I
know about MouseX, CubX, and co-Xist but they eat up memory and except for
Mouse-X full versions cost money. Anyone got any suggestions on what other
programs I should try(I do have an account on the local sun cluster if
that makes a difference). I have seen X11 emulated on a Mac using only an
xterm. Is there a similar way to do it on the next?
Thanx in advance.
Green Eggs
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs freezes under mouse-X
Date: 15 Mar 1994 18:23:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m4ueq$eni@hub.ucsb.edu>
References: <MAGNUS.94Mar14193743@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
In article <MAGNUS.94Mar14193743@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes:
] I do the following:
]
] 1.) Start X
] 2.) Start Emacs
] 3.) Exit back to NeXTstep
] 4.) Back into X
]
] Emacs now no longer accepts keyboard input. I am using emacs-19.22
] and have applied the .twmrc fix mentioned in the help for mouse-X
] (same thing happens without this fix, in addition to other stuff like
] twm freezing). Any hints, fixes, or whatever. I do need to be able
] to switch back and forth.
] --
The "fix" that I recommended is in your .xinitrc file -- the script to pass to
xmodmap to remap/switch the alt and command key function under X. This should
fix all problems that happen when you pop back and forth from NextStep to X.
This .xinitrc fix is described in the help window for Xfe.app (at least the
newer versions).
--
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Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: Tony Guo <tony@formosa.dorm12.nctu.edu.tw>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Chinese text processing
Date: 15 Mar 1994 16:44:22 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Distribution: Taiwan NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <2m4ol6$7fe@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <1994Mar6.054826.27067@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
In article <1994Mar6.054826.27067@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
bryan@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Bryan Van Norden) writes:
>
> Does anyone have any experience with Chinese text processing
> and printing on a NeXT? Are there any commercial packages
available? If
> not, what is the easiest way to construct my own package?
If you are in white NeXTSTEP, you can email to
idpt353@tpts1.seed.net.tw, the ObjectRain Corp. in Taiwan.
They do have a product ChinaWare for Chinese Environment on NeXTSTEP.
But black machine is not available.
--
Tony Guo
President of Taiwan NeXT User Group
tony@formosa.dorm12.nctu.edu.tw (NeXTmail enjoyed)
From: tjb@wintermute.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DFax and NS3.2?
Date: 15 Mar 1994 18:32:11 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire - Durham, NH USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2m4uvb$cu9@mozz.unh.edu>
I upgraded to NS3.2 a couple of months ago and I recently discovered that DFax
now does not work reliably. Things I fax from the fax panel just disappear
from the queue. I've tried reinstalling, etc. but it still doesn't work. The
only error message I can find is from the lpd-err file:
Mar 15 11:19:29 wintermute lpd[355]: Local_Fax_Modem: filter
/usr/lib/NextPrinter/DFax_Class2_Fax_Modem terminated (11), (0)
I called Albemic where I purchased the software and they said they no longer
sell or support it. They did give me a number for the original authors,
Total Systems Software, but the phone had been disconnected.
Any help appreciated...
tjb
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 15 Mar 1994 18:21:33 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m4ubd$s57@inxs.concert.net>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Referencing earlier posts in this thread:
> Underline is a serious typeographic no-no. A holdover from those typewriter
> days when you has to switch balls to get the correct font. So the lazy just
> underlined.
Except that almost every legal brief filed in the United States requires
underlining of case law...which could leave WriteUp out of law offices until
this flaw is corrected.
> I don't know what people would use strike-through or redline for - it's a
> shame to do something like that to a character. Double underline? Two
> wrongs don't make a right.
Again, you might not use red-lining or double-underlining, but law offices edit
using these features.
> John> Welp, all and all its a good start, but some serious holes exist. To
> John> me, most serious are the ommission of footnotes and underlining. Its
> John> promissing and better than WordPerfect, in my opinion, for doing gen
> John> eral duty stuff.
>
Footnotes, again, occur in almost every legal brief.
Dave
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From: giltner@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jon Giltner)
Subject: Can't get libdb.a to work on NeXTStep 3.2
Message-ID: <CMpvHL.FH5@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU>
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Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 17:34:33 GMT
Has anybody ported the Berkeley newdb library to NeXTStep 3.2? I fought
with it for a bit, and after scrapping the code that does mmap and munmap
(which doesn't seem to really exist), I got the library to build. But when
I actually try to create a btree database with it, it produces a floating
exception inside a call to malloc() (inside NXalloc()). If somebody has
managed to port this already, it would save some of my remaining hair.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: project management software, native NS PD or shareware apps?
References: <GBOL.94Mar4133015@custard.think.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 09:12:18 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar15.091218.840@proximus.north.de>
Version control systems:
sccs - "standard" Unix utility. Already on your NeXT, only command line,
sort of cryptic, but free and wide spread. Does only handle ASCII,
which is very bad for NeXT App developing.
rcs - version control from GNU. Does basically the same as sccs, but a
little more comfortable, supports more features, but is easier to
use. In its newer versions it can handle binaries as well. You'll
find the latest versions on the net (ai.prep.mit.edu, for example)
Problem: It can't handle directories, which causes problems with NIB
and other NEXTSTEP files. Compiles out of the box.
cvs - builds on top of rcs, can handle directories, but needs some tricky
work for use with nibs and Project Builder. Either you use a special
Makefile.postamble (look at the net) or (what I refer) you use the
cvs.palette, which handles that. Compiles out of the box. cvs
supports multiple developers working on the same program at the same
time.
Those are for free, but are ONLY VERSION and CONFIGURATION control systems,
no "real" (what is real anyway) project managment.
Then there is the comercial system DRCS. As I do not own it, I do not
exactly know what it does, but it is for NEXTSTEP, so I assume it to have a
GUI. Contact for DRCS:
sss@sss.com
(203) 630-2000
(203) 630-2020
94 Murray Street
Meriden, Connecticut 06450
Good luck,
Gerhard, NoGeNUG.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 09:24:07 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar15.092407.946@proximus.north.de>
In article <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>WriteUp review. Bear in mind I havent been using this very long, but I thought
[..]
>- NO UNDERLINE!!!!
>Man, I thought after WriteNow 1.0 I would never again see a word pro
>cessor without underlines. Worse yet, if you import stuff in with
>underlines, the import has no underlines.... This is a serious draw
>back...
No, it is a PLUS. I hate reading those papers that are clobbered with
underlines, ripping the text in pieces and displease my eyes. All
typographic books (well I read only two) discouraged the use of underlines
and regard them as bad style.
If you look at some professional publishing companies, you'll never find
underlines. Choose slanted (or even italic) to emphasize text. Headlines in
bold or some other font.
Gerhard.
AFS would be wise if they ask a professional typographer about what they
should support. But then again...maybe they have just done that.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <2m2i2u$4t1@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 09:31:32 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar15.093132.1098@proximus.north.de>
In article <2m2i2u$4t1@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,
Mark Adler <madler@cco.caltech.edu> wrote:
>
>>> I don't know what people would use strike-through or redline for - it's a
>
>We use it, along with bold, to mark changes in a review copy of a document.
>Strike-thru the deletions, bold the additions. It makes it easy for the
>reviewer to see the "was" and "is" on a single page. And the struck-thru
>text is still quite readable.
Good point. But if you add a feature like this people will use it the wrong
way. So I would prefer if WriteUp would add the "Changebar" feature like in
FrameMaker, maybe even in different colours for different reviewers. Also
they could add something to add remarks like in Word or FrameMaker.
On the other hand, we NEXTSTEP people are lucky, as there is "readmark".
Though I never tested this app, it should do what you want and more... (Does
anyone out there use this product?)
Later, Gerhard.
PS: At the moment reviewing books with Word... (SIGH.)
From: rob-n@clark.net (Rob Newberry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SLIP/PPP and NeXT
Date: 15 Mar 1994 21:47:25 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am thinking of installing a NeXT system to act as a gateway to
the internet for our LAN. Currently the system runs DIP under
Linux for this job, but I think NeXT's interface has more
neato things. I would be interested in anyone's experiences
with any SLIP/PPP packages. I've got info from MorningStar,
but it's pretty expensive and does more than I need. Has
anyone used anything else with success?
Rob Newberry
rob-n@clark.net
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: tcsh
In-Reply-To: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk's message of Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:42:56 GMT
To: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar15081838@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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References: <CEDMAN.94Mar14120044@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<1994Mar15.104256.6008@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:18:38 GMT
In article <1994Mar15.104256.6008@ousrvr.oulu.fi> sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick) writes:
In article <CEDMAN.94Mar14120044@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> But then I found zsh which has every single interactive feature
> of tcsh (in addition to many very useful ones of its own) _and_
> programs in a reasonable and compatible manner. If you have the
> choice there is absolutely no reason in the world to use tcsh
> rather than zsh.
Completion is rather better in tcsh :-). Unless I've misunderstood
the zsh docs, you can only specify one completion per command in
zsh, whereas if tcsh you can specify multiple completions (for
commands with multiple arguments).
Believe me, you do misunderstand it. Find attached the man section
for the compctl command which controls completion under zsh.
Carl Edman
compctl [ -cfqovbCDAIFpEjBaRGuderzNOZ ] [ -k name ]
[ -X explanation ] [ -K function ]
[ -P prefix ] [ -S suffix ]
[ -g globstring ] [ -s subststring ]
[ -H num pattern ] [ -l cmd ] [ arg ... ]
compctl flags + flags + ...
compctl flags -x pattern flags - ... -- arg ...
Control the editor's completion behavior when one of
arg is the current command. (Note that aliases are
expanded before this is determined, unless the
COMPLETE_ALIASES option is set.) With the -D flag, con-
trol default completion behavior for commands not
assigned any special behavior; with -C, control comple-
tion when there is no current command. The remaining
options specify the type of command arguments to look
for during completion. If completion is attempted for
a command with a pathname containing slashes and no
completion definition is found, the search is retried
with the last pathname component.
-c Expect command names.
-f Expect filenames and filesystem paths.
-o Expect option names.
-v Expect variable names.
-b Expect key binding names.
-A Expect array names.
-I Expect integer variable names.
-F Expect function names.
-p Expect parameter names.
-E Expect environment variable names.
-j Expect job names (the first word of the job
leader's command line, useful with the kill buil-
tin).
-r Expect names of running jobs.
-z Expect names of suspended jobs.
-B Expect names of builtin commands.
-a Expect alias names.
-R Expect names of regular aliases.
-G Expect names of global aliases.
-u Expect user names.
-d Expect names of disabled commands.
-e Expect names of executable (and enabled) commands.
-N Expect names of scalar parameters.
-O Expect names of readonly variables.
-Z Expect names of shell special parameters.
-q If given together with a suffix (see the -S flag
below) it makes this suffix be removed if the next
character typed is a blank or does not insert any-
thing (this is the same rule as used for the
AUTO_REMOVE_SLASH option).
-k name
Expect names taken from the elements of $name
(which should be an array). Alternatively, the
argument name itself may be a set of space- or
comma-separated values in parentheses, in which
any delimiter may be escaped with a backslash.
(Example: `compctl -k "(cputime filesize datasize
stacksize coredumpsize resident descriptors)"
limit'.)
-K function
Call the given function to get the completions.
The function gets two arguments: the prefix and
the suffix of the word on which completion is
tried. The function should set the variable reply
to an array containing the completions (one
completion per element); note that reply should
not be made local. From such a function the com-
mand line can be accessed with the -c and -l flags
to the read builtin. (Example: `function whoson {
reply=(`users`); }; compctl -K whoson talk' com-
pletes only logged-on users after `talk'.) Note
that whoson must return an array so that just
"reply=`users`" is incorrect.
-X explanation
Print the explanation string when trying comple-
tion. A `%n' in this string is replaced by the
number of matches.
-P prefix
The prefix is inserted just before the completed
string; any initial part already typed will be
completed and the whole prefix ignored for comple-
tion purposes. (Example: `compctl -j -P "%"
kill').
-S suffix
After a unique completion is found the suffix is
inserted after the completed string.
-g globstring
The globstring is expanded using filename glob-
bing; it should be quoted to protect it from
immediate expansion. The resulting filenames are
taken as the possible completions. Use `*(/)'
instead of `*/' for directories. The fignore spe-
cial parameter is not used. More than one pattern
may be given separated by blanks. (Note that brace
expansion is not part of globbing.)
-s subststring
The substring is split into words and these words
are than expanded using all shell expansion
mechanisms. The resulting words are taken as pos-
sible completions. The fignore special parameter
is not used. Note that -g is faster for
filenames.
-H num pattern
The possible completions are taken from the last
num history lines. Only words matching pattern are
taken. If num is zero or negative the whole his-
tory is searched and if pattern is the empty
string (or '*', of course) all words are taken.
-l cmd
This option can not be combined with any other
option. If it is given it restricts the range of
command line words that are considered to be argu-
ments. By default this range contains all argu-
ments without the command string. If combined with
extended completion (see below) and one of the
patterns `p[...]', `r[...]', or `R[...]' the range
is restricted to the arguments between the ones
that are specified in the brackets. After the
range of arguments is determined completion is
done in it as if they were arguments to the cmd
given with this option. If this string is empty
the first word in the range is taken as the com-
mand name for which to complete. In this case, if
the cursor is in the first word, command names are
completed. Example: `compctl -x 'r[-exec,;]' -l
'' -- find' completes the arguments between `-
exec' and the following `;' (or the end of the
command line if there is no such string) as if
they were specifying a command on there own.
-U Use the whole list of possible completions,
whether or not they actually match the word on the
command line. The word typed so far will be
deleted. This is most useful with a function (-K
option), which can examine the word via the read
builtin's -c and -l flags and use its own cri-
terion to decide what matches.
The second form specifies alternative options. First
completion is tried with the options before the first
`+'. If this produces no matches completion is tried
with the flags after the `+' and so on. If there are no
flags after the last `+' this means that default com-
pletion is tried if no matches were found.
The third form specifies extended completion for the
commands given as arg. Each pattern is examined in
turn; when a match is found, the corresponding flags,
as described above for the ordinary case, are used to
generate possible completions. If no pattern matches,
the flags given before the -x are used. Note that each
pattern should be supplied as a single argument and
should be quoted to prevent expansion of metacharacters
by the shell. A pattern is built of sub-patterns
separated by commas; it matches if at least one of
these sub-patterns matches (they are `or'ed'). These
sub-patterns are in turn composed of other sub-patterns
separated by white spaces which match if all of the
sub-patterns match (they are `and'ed'). An element of
the sub-patterns is of the form 'c[...][...]', where
the pairs of brackets may be repeated as often as
necessary, and matches if any of the sets of brackets
match (an `or'). These elements may be any of the fol-
lowing:
s[string] ...
The pattern matches if the current word on
the command line starts with one of the
strings given in brackets. The string is not
removed and is not part of the completion.
S[string] ...
Like s[string] but the string is part of the
completion.
p[from,to] ...
The pattern matches if the number of the
current word is between one of the from and
to pairs. The comma and to are optional; to
defaults to the same value as from. The
numbers may be negative: -n refers to the
n'th last word on the line.
c[offset,string] ...
The pattern matches if one of the strings
matches the word offset by offset from the
current word position.
C[offset,pattern] ...
This is like c but uses pattern matching
instead.
w[index,string] ...
The pattern matches if the word in position
index is equal to the corresponding string.
Note that the word count is made after alias
expansion.
W[index,pattern] ...
Like w but using pattern matching instead.
n[index,string] ...
Matches if the current word contains string.
Anything up to and including the index'th
occurrence of this string will not be con-
sidered part of the completion, but the rest
will.
N[index,string] ...
Like n[index,string] but the string will be
taken as a character class (anything up to
and including the index'th occurrence of any
of the characters in string will not be con-
sidered part of the completion).
m[min,max] ...
Matches if the total number of words lies
between min and max (inclusive).
r[str1,str2]...
Matches if the cursor is after a word with
prefix str1. If there is also a word with
prefix str2 on the command line it matches
only if the cursor is before this word.
R[str1,str2]...
Like r but using pattern matching instead.
Example:
compctl -u -x 's[+] c[-1,-f],s[-f+]' -g '~/Mail/*(:t)' \
- 's[-f],c[-1,-f]' -f -- mail
Complete users by default. After a -f with an optional
space, complete file names; if a + follows the -f,
whether or not there is a space in between, complete
with the non-directory part of files in the directory
~/Mail.
From: mgrubb@amadeus.axys.krldwa.mccaw.com (Monte Grubb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Remote training tools...?
Date: 15 Mar 1994 20:04:28 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m54cc$1l0@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Keywords: Remote training tools
Does anyone know of any software which can allow you to perform NeXTSTEP
training remotely over the network?
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: HP Laserjet 4M PPD File
Message-ID: <1994Mar15.050528.3248@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 05:05:28 GMT
Does anyone have an HP 4M PPD file? If so, could you email me a copy?
Thanks
Wes
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: project management software, native NS PD or shareware apps?
Date: 15 Mar 1994 17:14:02 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
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References: <1994Mar15.091218.840@proximus.north.de>
Gerhard Moeller writes
> rcs - version control from GNU. Does basically the same as sccs, but a
> cvs - builds on top of rcs, can handle directories, but needs some tricky
> Those are for free, but are ONLY VERSION and CONFIGURATION control systems,
> no "real" (what is real anyway) project managment.
>
> Then there is the comercial system DRCS. As I do not own it, I do not
> exactly know what it does, but it is for NEXTSTEP, so I assume it to have a
> GUI.
There is also DevMan, which is NEXTSTEP based, and has a GUI for most
of its operations... I've found it to be well featured, good documentation, and
reliable to work with... there was a demo version available at one time...
Author! Author! is coming from Dolphin Software.
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From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs freezes under mouse-X
Date: 15 Mar 1994 22:22:31 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
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References: <MAGNUS.94Mar14193743@fisher.Stanford.EDU> <2m4ueq$eni@hub.ucsb.edu>
In-reply-to: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu's message of 15 Mar 1994 18:23:22 GMT
In article <2m4ueq$eni@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes:
> Path: nntp2.Stanford.EDU!headwall.Stanford.EDU!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!nntp.ucsb.edu!usenet
> From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
> Date: 15 Mar 1994 18:23:22 GMT
> Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
> Lines: 28
> Distribution: world
> References: <MAGNUS.94Mar14193743@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
> Reply-To: doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu
> NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.ucsb.edu
> In article <MAGNUS.94Mar14193743@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
> magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes:
> ] I do the following:
> ]
> ] 1.) Start X
> ] 2.) Start Emacs
> ] 3.) Exit back to NeXTstep
> ] 4.) Back into X
> ]
> ] Emacs now no longer accepts keyboard input. I am using emacs-19.22
> ] and have applied the .twmrc fix mentioned in the help for mouse-X
> ] (same thing happens without this fix, in addition to other stuff like
> ] twm freezing). Any hints, fixes, or whatever. I do need to be able
> ] to switch back and forth.
> ] --
> The "fix" that I recommended is in your .xinitrc file -- the script to
> pass to xmodmap to remap/switch the alt and command key function under
> X. This should fix all problems that happen when you pop back and
> forth from NextStep to X.
>
> This .xinitrc fix is described in the help window for Xfe.app (at
> least the newer versions).
Oops, I *meant* ".xinitrc". I'm afraid it doesn't fix the Emacs
problem -- but I found something that does: Everytime I re-enter X, I
need to hit the Cmd key once. Then I can use Emacs again.
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4M PPD File
Date: 15 Mar 1994 22:38:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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References: <1994Mar15.050528.3248@weston.com>
In article <CMp9sv.MIM@utstat.toronto.edu>,
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes:
> Well there is a PPD file for the HP4M, 4MP. It's on one of the Mac disks.
Also, in article <1994Mar15.050528.3248@weston.com>
jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes:
>Does anyone have an HP 4M PPD file? If so, could you email me a copy?
Don't look too far...
It's on 3.2 CDROM or on every Release 3.2 systems as:
/NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/HP_LaserJet_4_PostScript_600DPI.ppd
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From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Remote training tools...?
Date: 15 Mar 1994 17:20:15 -0600
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In comp.sys.next.software article <2m54cc$1l0@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
you wrote:
> Does anyone know of any software which can allow you to
> perform NeXTSTEP training remotely over the network?
ScreenCast, a commercial product, was designed to do this, I
believe.
There was a demo on cs.orst the last time I pulled off the index
ftp site:
cs.orst.edu
dir:
/pub/next/binaries/screen/demos
Relevant Files:
216740 Mar 15 1993 ScreenCast.tar.Z
1780 Mar 15 1993 ScreenCast.README
Company Information:
Otherwise
1501 Lowe Ave.
Bellingham, WA 98226
206-647-9436
screencast@otherwise.com
The demo only works for 3 minutes (way too short as I remember) but
maybe you can get in touch with them and set something else up.
Tim
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From: ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian Bainbridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages vs. writenow and everything else
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 18:10:18 EST
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
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Originator: ian@mindvox
Reading some of the messages about WriteNow and whatever shortcomings it
may have, if you're looking at a word processor that seems to cover all the
bases from the most simplistic memo, all the way to industrial strength
desktop publishing and page layout. I would STRONGLY recommend looking at
Pages.
We've only just started looking and calling it fairly amazing, seems to be
very appropriate. It's an absolutely first class product.
We were originally looking at something called WriteStep (was that a previous
version of WriteNow?) and perhaps adding PasteUp if the bugs that our
current version has, were being worked on and fixed. But right now it looks
like Diagram2 takes the cake for single page layout and basic graphics work,
and it looks like we'll be picking up many more seats for Pages.
Great job everyone at Pages! Even if you are 2 years late ;-)
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages Review Please...
Message-ID: <Mar.15.18.32.57.1994.6178@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 15 Mar 94 23:32:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Would some one please post a review of Pages?
I think its cheezy to have to pay 20bux for a demo copy...
Thanks, Later, John
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 15 Mar 94 23:16:28 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.763773388@uiuc.edu>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <2m2smg$6lu@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <AOKI.94Mar14204508@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>
Ken-ichiro Aoki writes:
>I don't want to sound like a fanatic, but so far, everything that
>has been mentioned (that I noticed) can be done in *TeX*, without
>much hassle; footnotes, underlining, tables, etc.
[Aside: I'm suprised anyone is honestly considering the lack of
underlining, footnotes and so on a benefit to word processing. In
addition to their continued use in professional applications,
continued lack of these features will have serious repercussions on
the ability to faithfully import and export documents to other more
popular formats (thus impacting WriteUp's acceptance in the
marketplace). In my opinion, leaving these features out will relegate
WriteUp to 'yet another half-baked NS word processor' status. I hope
AFS plans on adding the aforementioned features and continuing towards
"support[ing] existing document standards as part of its normal
operations." [NeXTWORLD 28]]
From what I understand, TeX has a lot more to offer than any GUI word
processor ever made to date when looking feature lists. A benefit is
that it's as powerful as a programming language (probably because it
is a document programming language) and can handle most any document
style thrown at it (long & regular as well as technical with
complicated drawings and equations to name a couple).
>TeX is not WYSIWIG, but with a previewer, it's not that bad.
[...]
>Let's face it, one has to do a reasonable amount of wordprocessing.
>it might be worthwhile to invest a little bit of time.
In my opinion this is precisely why I don't want to learn TeX or use
it. I *already know* how to get around in GUI word processors and I
don't think it's asking too much of NS word processors to do what Mac
and Windows GUI word processors have been doing for years. In my
opinion, using non-WYSIWYG word processors is like throwing away the
power of the display parts of NEXTSTEP. I want to see NeXT's
incredible job with the GUI and WYSIWYG capabilities spill over to
word processing apps.
>Also, TeX is free. All the tools come with NS.
In my opinion, price isn't the issue if the product is competitive.
I'm perfectly willing to pay a fair fee for an NS native product that
can do what the competition can, but so far WriteUp 1.0 reviews are
leaving me feeling like it's not worth the reduced $100 charge until
they get some of the basic features in the product in a bug-free way.
>I use TeX for anything resembling serious, trivial letters,
>papers, etc. for anything real trivial, I just use Edit. (which
>btw is fine for small jobs) ___Ken.
I use Edit RTF for small things too, but I miss page breaks and
paragraph styles even for small documents. In fact, in NeXTmail, I
found myself using similar font and ruler settings often and it got
too tiring to make the message look nice just to have to do it all
over again next time I wrote another NeXTmail message.
One thing that bugs me about TeX PS output is that I cannot read it in
a PS previewer (such as Preview.app). In order to determine what's in
DVI-converted-to-PS document, I've got to print it which makes me feel
like I've wasted paper. Conversely, with PS files from other sources,
I can read them in their entirety online. I only print them when I
want to take the document to someone that can't preview them for
themselves.
Overall, I think TeX is great for some, but definately not for the
masses. WYSIWYG word processing is popular, intuitive and able to do
what most word processor users want.
References:
[NeXTWORLD] NeXTWORLD magazine, March 1994, page 28; Anderson
Financial Systems advertisement.
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From: rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS3.2 on 030 Cube
Date: 15 Mar 1994 23:17:21 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
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From my understanding, NeXTstep 3.2 (and any 3.x) is optimized for the 040
chip. Is it possible to install 3.2dev on an 030 machine? If so, I have
a number of questions:
1. Will it be slower than the original NeXTstep 1.0?
2. Will it be more compatible with 040 cubes running 3.x?
3. What other bugs and/or problems might we face?
4. Could it act as a Unix server to several PC clients?
Thanks
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From: flash!jon@myxa.com
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <CMppL0.9y@dsinc!flash>
Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry)
Organization: Who Needs It?
References: <2m3oft$ks6@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:27:00 GMT
In article <2m3oft$ks6@Times.Stanford.EDU> hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
writes:
> Jonathan Hendry writes
> |
> | Perhaps WriteNow encodes the window position in the document itself.
> | Since AFS seems to have "format neutrality" as a goal, this wouldn't be
> | possible.
> |
>
> Why the heck not? Couldn't they just define a new RTF directive that only
> WriteUp understands? About the only document format not rich enough to
> embed this kind of information is plain ASCII.
It's not a question of "can it embed the information". It's a question of
a) can the format be expanded.
b) can it be expanded without breaking the native app.
Frankly I don't know enough about all the different document formats to really
comment. But I can easily imagine that there could be a document format which
could not embed this information. It's reasonable to expect that
Wordperfect/DOS files do not encode window positions (there being no windows).
Perhaps the Wordperfect format could be extended to include this; maybe it
already does, I don't know. There's also the issue of whether or not extending
a format will break the native app.
Perhaps WriteUp could support it for document types that support it. Sounds
like a hassle to support such a minor feature. (If our monitors were four feet
wide, I could see a real use for it. On a 17 or 21" monitor, a big old window
isn't going to stray too far :) )
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From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 16 Mar 1994 02:02:16 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2m5pb8$gl0@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <2m2smg$6lu@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <AOKI.94Mar14204508@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp> <jeffo.763773388@uiuc.edu>
In article <jeffo.763773388@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>One thing that bugs me about TeX PS output is that I cannot read it in
>a PS previewer (such as Preview.app). In order to determine what's in
>DVI-converted-to-PS document, I've got to print it which makes me feel
>like I've wasted paper. Conversely, with PS files from other sources,
>I can read them in their entirety online. I only print them when I
>want to take the document to someone that can't preview them for
>themselves.
This is because you are using the default configuration that uses
the TeX *bitmapped* fonts (the ones with the .pk extension). If you
tell TeX to use the resident Postscript fonts (Times, Helvetica, etc.)
you will get output which is quite readable in Preview.
The documentation has a quite clear section on using PostScript fonts.
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From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au
Subject: Location of tcsh sources please
Message-ID: <CMq9p1.69F@number_one.apana.org.au>
Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nikki A Vincent)
Organization: Cafe de Strachan - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 22:41:24 GMT
Gidday
Can some kind soul please tell me where I can find the location of the
tcsh sources, and whether there are any quirks involved in compiling it
under NeXTstep.
Thanx heaps in advance.
Cheers
Nicole
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From: ericalan@shell.portal.com (Eric Alan Christiansen)
Subject: Location of NeXT Intel Perl Binaries?
Message-ID: <CMqx7n.BDF@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:09:19 GMT
Does anyone know of a ftp site with already compiled
binaries of Perl for Next on an Intel box? (Or would
some kind soul be willing to mail one?)
- Eric Christiansen
ericalan@shell.portal.com
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From: znih!dbhinz (David Hinz)
Subject: ppp-0.3 on 3.2?
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.035705.8545@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Keywords: PPP
Sender: dbhinz@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 03:57:05 GMT
I ftp'ed ppp-0.3 from cs.orst and am trying to build it using NS 3.2 (Black).
I've been getting some errors about header files that are missing and am
wondering if anyone else has successfully built this version of ppp with 3.2?
Here is the error messages that I am getting.
cc -O -DDEBUGFSM -DDEBUGLCP -DDEBUGIPCP -DDEBUGUPAP -DBSD=43 -bsd
-DLCK_DIR=\"/usr/spool/uucp/LCK\" -c if_ppp.c
/NextDeveloper/2.0CompatibleHeaders/kern/lock.h:1: warning: Compatibility
header file imported, use <kernserv/lock.h>
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/m68k/spl.h:25: header file 'mach/features.h' not
found
/NextDeveloper/Headers/kernserv/m68k/spl.h:23: header file 'mach/features.h'
not found
*** Exit 1
`all' not remade because of errors
Any help would be appreciated. The site that I have been using SLIP to access
is turing it off and going to only support PPP!
Thanks,
David Hinz
dbhinz@znih.rmnug.org
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From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Re : Pages review
Message-ID: <CMr7rv.KC9@eunet.ch>
Keywords: Pages, Wordprocessor
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:57:31 GMT
In article <Mar.15.18.32.57.1994.6178@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> Would some one please post a review of Pages?
>
> I think its cheezy to have to pay 20bux for a demo copy...
>
> Thanks, Later, John
John,
I received it two days ago (I pruchased the introductory offer).
The first thing I can say is that the packaging is VERY professional (from
the registration card up to the hardcopy documentation). One could say
something like "at last a very professional large company producing
software for NEXTSTEP".
Installation was easy and takes (if you install ALL the examples) 10
floppy disks (could explain part of the demo version price).
The first contact with the software was GREAT ! I followed the
"essentials" booklet they give with the main documentation and I was up
and running in a few minutes.
You very easily end up forgetting all you knew (or had to know) with
traditional wordprocessors. I managed to format various documents in a
very professional way without having to browse through pages of
documentation or help views.
Later in the day I came through what I thought was a problem (the
inspector for some item didn't show the same thing as in the manual). I
tried a few things but then decided to send a message to the technical
support at Pages. 30 MINUTES LATER I GOT MY ANSWER IN DETAIL :-) !!! (It
was not a problem, but actually a very neat feature : you can switch on or
off the expert features in the preferences. The default is "not expert"
and therefore a lot of inspectors are "simplified", which is to my point
of view very good for the day to day work --> indeed, you don't want to
loose time on "having fun" with features).
Finally, I must continue my discovery tour to speak more about it but one
last general remark would be the following :
Pages relies heavilly on the "Design Models". The basic product comes with
4 design models that are certainly sufficient for over 50% of the users.
The other 50% will find that the Design Models included cover 80% of there
needs (figures here are my speculations only). The other Models needed
will either have to be purchases or developped. Large companies can afford
to have a consultant develop for them using the Pages developpers kit but
smaller ones can't. I hope the pricing of this developers kit will reflect
this and not slow down the production of specialized design models and
thus the success of Pages.
Pages is definitely a great product that opens many new possibilities
under NEXTSTEP.
More soon (I hope),
Alexander Lamb
Expert Quantitative Trading
Geneva / Switzerland
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From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love )
Subject: GNAT for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.054723.4827@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 05:47:23 GMT
Did I understand that somebody is working on porting GNAT to NeXT?
Is it ready yet? I may have an Ada job and want to brush up.
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From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: trying to run OmniWeb on Nextstation (OS 2.1)
Date: 16 Mar 1994 04:09:52 -0800
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2m6sug$21k@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2m40vq$l3o@thot.u-strasbg.fr>
Thomas Simonson writes:
>Having unzipped and untarred OmniWeb on a Next station (OS version 2.1)
>I click unsuccessfully on OmniWeb.app.... is there something obvious
>I haven't done, or is there possibly a problem with OmniWeb under system
>2.1?
OmniWeb doesn't and won't work under 2.1. It's compiled under 3.2, and
we don't even have a 2.1 machine here. Also, I think it uses 3.0+ only
features, but it's hard to remember because I haven't used 2.1 in so long.
(One thing I remember is that 2.1 didn't have automatic filtering. I
don't think it did. Aw, heck, who knows.)
-Wil Shipley
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <2782@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
Date: 16 Mar 94 13:56:19 GMT
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <2m2smg$6lu@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <AOKI.94Mar14204508@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp> <jeffo.763773388@uiuc.edu>
Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands).
>>TeX is not WYSIWIG, but with a previewer, it's not that bad.
>[...]
>>Let's face it, one has to do a reasonable amount of wordprocessing.
>>it might be worthwhile to invest a little bit of time.
>
>In my opinion this is precisely why I don't want to learn TeX or use
>it. I *already know* how to get around in GUI word processors and I
>don't think it's asking too much of NS word processors to do what Mac
>and Windows GUI word processors have been doing for years. In my
>opinion, using non-WYSIWYG word processors is like throwing away the
>power of the display parts of NEXTSTEP. I want to see NeXT's
>incredible job with the GUI and WYSIWYG capabilities spill over to
>word processing apps.
In fact, IMHO the next is the perfect environment for serious TeXing: the
edit-tex-preview cycle is much more convenient than on any other platform I
use. And that is without InstantTeX. Because of the nice GUI.
>One thing that bugs me about TeX PS output is that I cannot read it in
>a PS previewer (such as Preview.app). In order to determine what's in
>DVI-converted-to-PS document, I've got to print it which makes me feel
>like I've wasted paper.
This depends very much on your PS previewer. TeXview is based on dvips to a
DPS screen, I think... Ghostscript previews TeX PS very well, DEC DPS very
badly. You can always ask for the .dvi file, which prviews very well on the
NeXT.
>Overall, I think TeX is great for some, but definately not for the
>masses. WYSIWYG word processing is popular, intuitive and able to do
>what most word processor users want.
The few times I was lost in MS-Word I found it counterintuitive, awkward,
non-portable and featurelacking, so I guess my mileage varies. Depends what
you are used to. As a non-professional secratary I find \alpha much easier to
remember than <Ctrl><PF3>a<alt><PF3> or whatever.
Plus of course the fact that most journals (in my field) accept TeX input
nowadays, which drastically cuts back on the number of errors one finds in
proofreading.
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
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From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Remote training tools...?
Message-ID: <CMrKBM.4Kn@news.cis.umn.edu>
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Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services
References: <2m54cc$1l0@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 15:29:41 GMT
Monte Grubb (mgrubb@amadeus.axys.krldwa.mccaw.com) wrote:
: Does anyone know of any software which can allow you to perform NeXTSTEP
: training remotely over the network?
What constitutes a "remote training tool?" Is it something like
ScreenCast with a conference call? Video conferencing?
Just curious.
peter
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From: reuven@the-tech.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DFax and NS3.2?
Date: 16 Mar 1994 16:36:44 GMT
Organization: The Tech -- MIT's Oldest and Largest Newspaper
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In-reply-to: tjb@wintermute.unh.edu's message of 15 Mar 1994 18:32:11 GMT
>>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas J Baker <tjb@wintermute.unh.edu> writes:
Thomas> I upgraded to NS3.2 a couple of months ago and I recently
Thomas> discovered that DFax now does not work reliably. Things I
Thomas> fax from the fax panel just disappear from the queue. I've
Thomas> tried reinstalling, etc. but it still doesn't work.
Yep, DFax doesn't work with NS 3.2. I'm not even sure if it works
with 3.1, since the last time I can remember it working reliably was
back when I had NeXTSTEP 3.0 on my system. (This is Motorola; I'm
pretty sure that DFax never worked on Intel.)
I sent e-mail to Total Systems Software a number of times, but no one
answered it. Finally, about two months ago, I called them on the
telephone and was pleasantly surprised to have someone answer the
phone. A very nice engineer called me back a day or two later, and
told me that they were basically at the mercy of NeXT, which had
changed the (undocumented) API for fax modems several times. (He said
that Black and White Software, which makes a competing product caled
"NXFax," had a special in with NeXT that protected them from these
changes.)
Combined with the no-longer-expanding Motorola hardware base, this
meant that they wouldn't be coming out with an update to DFax in the
near future, although I'm beginning to suspect that he really meant
"not at all.",
He did say that they were working on some other projects, which they
expected would bring in enough revenue to let them work on DFax again.
But if their telephone has been disconnected, I'd say that even that
is a remote possibility at this point.
As far as I can tell, then, DFax owners have two choices: Pay $150 or
so for NXFax from Black and White Software (about which I've heard
only good things), or stop trying to use the fax modem to send faxes.
I've been taking the second approach for the last few months, but it's
getting to be a bit of a pain, and I might just give up on Total
Systems Software after all.
Reuven
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Poplog
Date: 16 Mar 1994 11:40:41 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Anyone know of a PD version of Poplog?!
Have fun,
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From: jesperse@rahul.net (Dennis Jespersen)
Subject: nxyplot 1.90 available
Message-ID: <CMrs4K.6H1@rahul.net>
Summary: nxyplot 1.90 is available
Keywords: nxyplot, plotting
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 18:17:08 GMT
Version 1.90 of nxyplot, a 2D plotting program for machines running NextStep,
has been uploaded to the archive sites cs.orst.edu and sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
It's currently in pub/next/submissions on those machines. This version fixes a
silly bug that crept into version 1.89 having to do with reading titles from a
format file.
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From: kelly@shogun.nersc.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mail.app
Date: 16 Mar 1994 19:37:05 GMT
Organization: National Energy Research Supercomputer Center
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2m7n51$rcr@cronkite.nersc.gov>
My Mail.app seems to be busted. It will not move mail from my
spool file to the Mail.app. Also the routine
kelly 243 52.5 1.6 3.61M 464K ? R N 8:32
/NextApps/Mail.app/MailFetch /usr/spool/mail/kelly kelly
FetchPort_kelly_08017
is running like crazy, grinding on my disk, but nothing is happening.
This all started when my disked filled up because some user tried
to send a 190 Mbyte file and it got bounced, and the mail got sent
to me as postmaster.
Does anyone have any ideas on what is wrong witht the Mail.app?
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From: aoki@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 16 Mar 1994 20:25:38 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology
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In-reply-to: jeffo@uiuc.edu's message of 15 Mar 94 23:16:28 GMT
In article <jeffo.763773388@uiuc.edu>
jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
Ken-ichiro Aoki writes:
>I don't want to sound like a fanatic, but so far, everything that
>has been mentioned (that I noticed) can be done in *TeX*, without
>much hassle; footnotes, underlining, tables, etc.
From what I understand, TeX has a lot more to offer than any GUI word
processor ever made to date when looking feature lists. A benefit is
that it's as powerful as a programming language (probably because it
is a document programming language) and can handle most any document
style thrown at it (long & regular as well as technical with
complicated drawings and equations to name a couple).
And it's *platform independent*. Really. Runs on DOS, Unix, you name it.
..... I want to see NeXT's
incredible job with the GUI and WYSIWYG capabilities spill over to
word processing apps.
So would I. For instance, something that WYSIWYG really
helps is laying out ads, posters and stuff. This would be difficult to
do without WYSIWIG. But this is not really a job for a wordprocessor,
more for something like Diagram!, Concurrence, Create, Virtuoso, etc.
But I digress...
>Also, TeX is free. All the tools come with NS.
In my opinion, price isn't the issue if the product is competitive.
But considering NS volume right now, it might not be that soon
that we will see an affordable WP with all the features you want.
I just wanted to say that there was a cheap alternative *now*
for people who are willing to go the non-WYSIWIG route.
I certainly would be happy to see all sorts of new apps sprout
in the NS market, including WP's, but what can I say.... I have
papers to write, and NOW.
...
One thing that bugs me about TeX PS output is that I cannot read it in
a PS previewer (such as Preview.app). In order to determine what's in
DVI-converted-to-PS document, I've got to print it which makes me feel
like I've wasted paper. ...
Hmmm. I just double click on a dvi file and preview the document
in the TeX previewer. Does this not work for you for some reason?
Since I don't have PS fonts, the fonts sometimes don't look great
but it is always enuff to figure out if I typeset things correctly.
Also, I just did dvips -f foo.dvi > foo.ps
and the Preview.app worked fine. Or you can just save it
in a ps file from the print panel in the TeXview.
Again, the fonts sometimes look lousy, but enuff to figure out if
things are type set correctly, I think.
Overall, I think TeX is great for some, but definately not for the
masses. WYSIWYG word processing is popular, intuitive and able to do
what most word processor users want.
I agree. First of all, most people don't need the precision
of TeX nor do they type that many equations. Also, the learning
curve seems to be steep for non-tech minded people. I have
noticed that a lot of secretaries have a real problem with TeX
while physicists usually pick it up very quickly. (Some secretaries,
on the other hand, swear by it once they get used to it.) I think
people who are happy running computers with NS are tech oriented
enuff to pick up TeX without much pain if they were interested.
I certainly didn't mean to imply that everybody should be using TeX.
For people who want to do mundane wordprocessing (like letters,
tech. docs, papers, memos, etc.), TeX is a cheap option worth
considering, IMO, that's all.
I hope it might help some people who need a WP NOW.
--
___Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp)
Dept.of Physics,Tokyo Inst. of Tech., Meguro-ku, Tokyo, Japan.
.... on the road oDo .......
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Hey
Date: 16 Mar 1994 13:47:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403161940.AA22550@PCS.CNU.EDU>
Anyone have a list of good NeXT FTP sites?? I've got cs.orst.edu
and nic.funet.fi -- and that's about it. OH -- and the informatik site
as well. Any others of significance?
bp
QwqQ
Qwq!
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: DMP
References: <1994Mar3.061824.15473@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:41:54 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.074154.361@proximus.north.de>
In article <1994Mar3.061824.15473@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
Blake Patterson <bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu> wrote:
> Is "Dots" the only program that will let me use a parallel printer
>(dot matrix) w/ NSi? I've asked many times but gotten no response. It
As far as I know, yes.
If you don't get an answer from Alembic, you might ask direktly d'Art in
Germany: info@dart.de
>costs $150 min from Alembic. I was hoping for a cheaper solution. ANY
>info appreciated. Thanks.
I don't know how much it is in Germany...
Anyhow, as you run NSfip, you might get another problem: As far as I know
Postscript isn't bundled anymore for printers. So you might need a
postscript license. I do not know if this license is included, but if not,
it'll become even more expensive. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: POP3 Server on NeXTSTEP
References: <1994Mar1.033214.1161@weston.com> <2l8sk4$nvr@rosie.next.com> <2lkk31$65o@daffy.ldp.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:50:08 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.075008.488@proximus.north.de>
Hi,
maybe this is a stupid question, but what is "pop3"?
(I will take a quick guess: some sort of a mail transport agent?)
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: *Re-Post: NS 3.2 and Mac disk weirdness*
References: <1994Mar10.012317.25450@ornl.gov>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:02:41 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.080241.694@proximus.north.de>
In article <1994Mar10.012317.25450@ornl.gov>,
<teb@blencoe2.chem.ornl.gov > wrote:
[...]
> We just upgraded our NeXT hardware to NS 3.2 from
>NS 3.0. I have a couple of questions/observations:
>
>(1) Mac-formatted diskettes appear on the browser shelf
>with an icon for a Mac-formatted *optical* disk. Same
>for DOS diskettes.
We have the same symptom at uni - but only on our cube, all stations and
white "NeXTs" are ok. However I haven't noticed any crash...
Do you observe ths behaviour on a cube or on a station?
(Maybe its the PLI floppy drive that causes the problem, as it is attached
via the SCSI bus to the cube...)
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Date program
References: <2ltbp2$qpc@crcnis1.unl.edu> <1994Mar13.082939.523@seer.demon.co.uk>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 15:47:15 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.154715.1614@proximus.north.de>
In article <1994Mar13.082939.523@seer.demon.co.uk>,
Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <2ltbp2$qpc@crcnis1.unl.edu> tshores@unlinfo.unl.edu (thomas
>shores) writes:
>> NeXT used to include a really great demo software program in the
>> NeXTStep OS package called "Date" by Brian Yamamoto. But it isn't
>> included in NeXTStep 3.x. I would really like to use it on white
>> hardware running 3.2. Does anyone know if it still exists (or went
>> commercial)? If not, does anyone have suggestions for a public domain
>> or (reasonably inexpensive) commericial calendar program?
>
>Date just disappeared. If you want a commercial calendar program, get
>PencilMeIn from Sarrus (info@sarrus.com). For a non-commercial program,
>you should be able to find Cassandra on the archives.
Another commercial program is Dater.app by 42 Software. Contact:
Forty-Two 42 Software-Entwicklungs GmbH
info@forty-2.DE
+49-40-38 19 24
+49-40-38 00 443 (fax)
Jessenstrasse 4
????? Hamburg 50
Germany
Free calendar programs:
ftp.uni-muenchen.de:
Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/Date.2.1.N.b.gz
The Date.app mentioned above for 3.x user.
Tools/workspace/Cassandra*
I think the interface is a little bit messy...
Also GNUs emacs has a calender feature, which is not too bad.
Finally, every UNIX machine has a calendar as well.
So you should be able to find the one you prefer most,
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: frame update
References: <1994Mar13.212739.56806@yuma>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 15:52:01 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.155201.1711@proximus.north.de>
In article <1994Mar13.212739.56806@yuma>,
Dave Randall <sh.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote:
>a few weeks have gone by since the cry for frame 4 for ns, and the rumors that
>it would materialize. does anybody have any more info now?
The cry for frame 4 now holds not for a few weeks but rather years.
I would not bet a single penny on the above rumor.
Gerhard.
From: csilva@cs.sunysb.edu (Claudio Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: vm_map in NeXTStep 3.2
Date: 16 Mar 1994 20:42:29 GMT
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Message-ID: <2m7qvl$9gh@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>
Keywords: memory allocation, external pagers
Does NeXTStep 3.2 support external pagers ? Does it support the vm_map
function call, present in other versions of Mach 2.5 ?
Thanks a lot,
Claudio. (csilva@cs.sunysb.edu)
From: vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ivan Vesely)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Device dependent colours( was: Color Panel Behavior?)
Date: 16 Mar 1994 19:05:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada
Message-ID: <2m7l9f$hkk@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
References: <1994Mar14.180319.5182@altsys.com>
In article <1994Mar14.180319.5182@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers
III) writes:
> The RGB and HSB colors are ``device-independent'' color and the CMYK
> color is ``device-dependant'' colors.
>
Could someone explain this to me please: I've had no problems printing from my
B&W NeXTStation to a colour Tektronix printer, untill I ugraded to NS 3.2. At
that point, all my colours became really washed out. Cyan was no longer cyan,
and red turned out a muddy purple. This happened to existing files that I
generated before switching over to 3.2. BTW, the way I make colour diagrams is
from the colour picker. I just pick some good sounding colours and then
preview them on my SGI machine, before dumping them to the colour printer.
They look great on the SGI, but poor on the printer. Any idea of what has
changed when I moved to 3.2?
--
Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics
University of Western Ontario, vesely@heartlab.rri.uwo.ca
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From: anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.211624.9557@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
References: <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 21:16:24 GMT
In article <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>
aoki@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki) writes:
> In article <jeffo.763773388@uiuc.edu>
> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Ken-ichiro Aoki writes:
> >I don't want to sound like a fanatic, but so far, everything that
> >has been mentioned (that I noticed) can be done in *TeX*, without
> >much hassle; footnotes, underlining, tables, etc.
[much TeX evangelizing deleted]
I am a TeX/LaTeX nut. It is wonderful and I use it for just
about everything. But the issue that comes to my mind is that
it is overkill for quick notes and the like. Last night was
the first time I took a look at WriteUp. I made a nice
letterhead that resembles my letterhead.sty for LaTeX. It was
very easy and I set up nice environments for bullets (using
expert fonts, etc) and quotations. But there are a few
simple problems:
Does it have the nice summary heading on subsequent pages (To:
recipient Date, etc.) that my style file does? No. If I
want to number the pages in WriteUp, can I suppress numbering
the first page? I don't know and couldn't seem to find it in
the manual. How can I get graphics to work with a template?
I get a link error every time I try and open one. This is not
an issue with \epsf and the numerous tools for inserting eps
into (La)TeX.
These would all bother me more than underline, double
underline, strike through, etc., since I tend to agree that
they have no place in a nicely set document -- an argument
which would hold no weight if I were expected to use such
elements by my colleagues. Nevertheless, I will now probably
use WriteUp for my daily letters and short communications just
because it is more convenient for me.
I love TeX, and have used it exclusively for the past three
years. I'll use it for any paper that needs serious notation
or otherwise needs the strength of TeX/LaTeX. In the
meantime, I've moved TeXmenu out of my dock and replaced it
with WriteUp.
-Anand
--
==================================================================
Anand Mehta mehta-anand@yale.edu 203-436-1482 Computing Asst.
We dance round in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
==================================================================
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From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <1994Mar14.192116.5544@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <9403122218.AA11262@cantina.lanl.gov>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:21:16 GMT
In article <9403122218.AA11262@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes:
> Adding a few extra thoughts to John Kheit's nice review...
>
>1. I am not happy with sub- and superscripts, but there are
>ways to handle them in the present version.
>
> Just to be perfectly clear about how I think one _ought_
> to type sub- and superscripted material, here are the
> five keystroke characters I'd _like_ to use to type
> "water":
>
> "H", "<cmd-\>, "2", "<cmd-0>", "O"
I hope this is clear...
It seems to me this should be a toggle so if you type, execute the
sub-script command, type, sub-script and type again you'll get <normal
char><subscript char><normal char>, much how bold and italic work now...
>
>where the "<cmd-0>" is the (as-yet--undefined)
>key-equivalent to Unscript. And, of course, the "O" comes
>out in the same font and size as the "H". [I'm assuming
>that "<cmd-0>" is not already used somewhere else in the
>App. One could use "<cmd-/>" to undo the subscripting, but
>there really are times when one wants a superscript on a
>subscript.] Please note: no going to the mouse, all hands
>on the main keyboard.
> {cogent and insightful comments about TeX, which I remain blissfully
ignorant about}
>
> Dick Silbar
> WhistleSoft, Inc.
my $.02 worth, like anyone actually asked...
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
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From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: changing title on terminal windows
Message-ID: <1994Mar14.201052.5697@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1994Mar13.163432.2468@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <2lvib1$7rl@news.doit.wisc.edu> <7635805449237@dalek.mcs.anl.gov>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 20:10:52 GMT
command-shift-t brings up the set title panel in Terminal.
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Re : Pages review
Date: 16 Mar 1994 22:34:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Mar16143444@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CMr7rv.KC9@eunet.ch>
In-reply-to: lamb@eqt.ch's message of Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:57:31 GMT
Can it do equations at all? EquationBuilder?
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: curious@watnxt06.ucr.edu (Jon P Tsai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PGP for NeXT
Date: 16 Mar 1994 22:45:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2m8267$fm5@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Hi, I am wondering if anyone has been able to compile PGP for the NeXT. I have
been tring... and have not been too successful to put it lightly. If anyone can
tell me where to find the NeXT source for PGP, I will be enternally grateful!
Thank,
Curious
PS plz send any reply to curious@watserv.ucr.edu
From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Maple V Release 3 (No NeXTSTEP version mentioned)
Date: 16 Mar 1994 15:19:54 -0800
Message-ID: <2m846q$qgc@potrzebie.ee.pdx.edu>
I read the following in sci.math.symbolic newsgroup and thought that it
might be interested to others.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WATERLOO MAPLE SOFTWARE ANNOUNCES MAPLE V RELEASE 3
WATERLOO, Ontario, Canada, March 15, 1994
Waterloo Maple Software today announced Maple V Release 3, a
new and significantly improved version of its comprehensive
mathematical software package. This new version builds on
Maple's reputation for symbolic and numeric computational
power, graphics capabilities, and programming. Major new
enhancements and features include an easy-to-use worksheet
interface including export to LaTeX, mathematical robustness,
interactive graphics, and a new help facility featuring
keyword searches within help pages.
'We have paid attention to the needs of our customers by
providing them with tools that are important to the
advancement of their work,' said Chris Howlett, director of
research and development, Waterloo Maple Software. 'Users of
Maple V can now solve more problems than previously possible
with computer algebra systems.'
NEW FEATURES OF MAPLE V RELEASE 3
Many of Maple V Release 3's symbolic and numeric functions
have been greatly enhanced. Significant work has been done in
extending Maple's power in the areas of integration, exact
solutions of equations, and manipulation of symbolic
expressions. These changes make Maple V faster, more
efficient, and robust, enabling users to solve even more
problems. The solution of differential equations has been
improved and includes two completely new algorithms for
solving linear differential equations in addition to
facilities for manipulation and working with incomplete
solutions. Also, Release 3's redesigned statistics package
includes many statistical distributions and functions for
sophisticated data manipulation, analysis, and statistical
plotting.
'Proper choice of branch cuts has been a problem that affects
all symbolic math systems. IUm pleased to see the new
improvements in Maple that will use only reductions and
simplifications that are 'provable',' said John Crow, member
of the Technical Staff at an aerospace firm in Southern
California. 'I'm also impressed with the new capabilities for
differential equations. It will make obtaining and
manipulating solutions much more convenient.'
Additional enhancements in areas such as graphics, help
facilities, and Maple's worksheet interface have been made in
Release 3. An improved interactive graphics package includes
control of number of contours, line styles, fonts used for
text, and symbols used for points, which allow for the
production of professional documents. Help facilities now
include keyword search capabilities making it easy to locate
information on specific topics. Entire worksheets can be
exported to LaTeX for publication quality presentations.
PLATFORM ENHANCEMENTS
Maple V Release 3 for Windows has a number of significant
enhancements, including a tool bar which is available on
worksheet and plot windows. A status bar at the bottom of all
windows shows information on menu items and buttons, while a
status bar at the bottom of worksheet windows displays memory
and CPU usage.
'The new tool bars make Release 3 much easier to navigate,'
said John Smirnios, a Maple beta tester. 'I enjoy working
with the new help facility. ItUs much more convenient and
easier to use. Also, I found that Maple V Release 3 is
consistent with the native Windows applications.'
The Macintosh and Motif versions of Release 3 add
improvements to the Help facilities, including keyword search
capabilities that allow users to quickly locate Help topics.
On all platforms, plots can be saved in the widely adopted
GIF file format.
AVAILABILITY
In North America, Maple V Release 3 is available for the
Macintosh, MS/PC-DOS 5.0+, Microsoft Windows 3.1,
Digital AXP (Alpha) and DECStation (Ultrix), IBM RS/6000,
HP 9000/700, and SUN workstations running SunOS 4.x, 5.0, or
Solaris.
International availability will be on April 1, 1994.
Availability of Maple V Release 3 on additional platforms
will be announced in the near future.
CONTACT INFORMATION
Maple V is distributed internationally through direct sales,
distributors, dealers, hardware OEMs, and software publishing
partners. Site licenses and volume discounts are available
directly from Waterloo Maple Software.
Corporate Headquarters:
Waterloo Maple Software
450 Phillip Street
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 5J2
info@maplesoft.on.ca
Telephone: 519/747-2373
Telephone: 800/267-6583 (Sales)
Fax: 519/747-5284
Europe:
Waterloo Maple Software GmbH
Tiergartenstrasse 17
69121 Heidelberg 1, Germany
100275.163@compuserve.com
Telephone: +49 6221 487 180
Fax: +49 6221 487 184
Asia:
Waterloo Maple Software
541, Orchard Road
Liat Towers #10-04
Singapore 0923
Telephone: +65 735 6268
Fax: +65 482 2490
Western USA:
Prescience Corporation
939 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA USA 94103
info@prescience.com
Telephone: 415/543-2252
Telephone: 800/827-6284 (Sales)
Fax: 415/882-0530
# # #
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No NeXTSTEP version mentioned. Hope to see it soon.
Pitak
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 17 Mar 1994 00:36:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu>
What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
somewhat competing products: Illustrator from Adobe and Freehand
(Virtuoso on NeXT) from Aldus (Altsys)?
Are these products going to be merged as well?
How does the merger affect Altsys that is the actual developer
of Freehand and Virtuoso?
Lorin?
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Maple V Release 3 (No NeXTSTEP version mentioned)
Date: 17 Mar 1994 00:39:38 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Mar16163938@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2m846q$qgc@potrzebie.ee.pdx.edu>
In-reply-to: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu's message of 16 Mar 1994 15:19:54 -0800
> No NeXTSTEP version mentioned. Hope to see it soon.
They have to release version 2 first. According to the Maple person I
spoke to, that is going to be Real Soon Now. He thought that V.3
would come along, but that it didn't really make sense to discuss it
until V.2 is out.
I sure hope V.2 for NS is improved over V.
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: william@moomin.berkeley.edu (William E. Grosso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 17 Mar 1994 01:55:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m8db9$b19@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>
In article <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>
aoki@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki) writes:
>
> I agree. First of all, most people don't need the precision
> of TeX nor do they type that many equations. Also, the learning
> curve seems to be steep for non-tech minded people. I have
> noticed that a lot of secretaries have a real problem with TeX
> while physicists usually pick it up very quickly.
>
TeX is also great in e-mail. Mathematicians use it as a
ascii way to send type set e-mail. I frequently get things
like :
Let $G = \ll X | R \rr$ be a hyperbolic group and suppose
it acts on a $\Bbb R$-tree $X$ so that ....
It's not at all bad once you learn to mentally typeset
the e-mail. Much easier than the older ways of typesetting
equations in ascii e-mail.
Bill Grosso
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 17 Mar 94 04:44:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.763879493@uiuc.edu>
References: <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp> <2m8db9$b19@agate.berkeley.edu>
Any word on when WriteUp will be updated?
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 17 Mar 94 04:57:27 GMT
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Keywords: Pages, Wordprocessor
Alexander Lamb writes:
>Pages relies heavilly on the "Design Models". The basic product comes with
>4 design models that are certainly sufficient for over 50% of the users.
>The other 50% will find that the Design Models included cover 80% of there
>needs (figures here are my speculations only).
How flexible are these "Design Models"? In Frame, I can have any
document I can create using the features of the program. I'm not
accustomed to being limited to writing a particular document style
because of the constraints of formats I didn't create.
>The other Models needed will either have to be purchases or developped.
How much is this Design Model developing kit?
>More soon (I hope),
I hope so too, thanks for posting about it. So far, reviews have been
non-existant (probably due to the lack of a demo on the net).
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
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Subject: Re: frame update
Date: 17 Mar 94 05:10:49 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Gerhard Moeller writes:
> The cry for frame 4 now holds not for a few weeks but rather years.
> I would not bet a single penny on the above rumor.
Yep. I agree here, I'd give up this idea and just use another
platform if you want to use a more recent version of Frame.
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From: daj@ccrma.stanford.edu
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Subject: Data Viz under NeXT 3.0 and NeXT<->Mac transfers
Date: 17 Mar 1994 06:23:07 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2m8t0b$9sn@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
I have an old version of Data Viz Bridge from the 1.0 NeXT release. It stopped
working at some point (3.0?). Does anyone know if Data Viz still supports the
NeXT? I don't know their phone number (since the program won't launch.) Any
info would be appreciated.
Actually, the real problem is "how do I get files to/from my NeXT cube (without
floppy) to a Mac?"
Buying an external floppy is an option, but they're rare these days. It almost
seems like I'd be better off buying 2 Syquests, one for the NeXT and one for
the Mac. Seems like an expensive solution, though. Another possibility is an
Ethernet card for the Mac, I suppose. I have a powerbook 140.
Any ideas?
Please respond to david@jaffe.com
Thanks.
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Pages Review Please...
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.030355.11200@news.media.mit.edu>
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 03:03:55 GMT
In article <Mar.15.18.32.57.1994.6178@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>>Would some one please post a review of Pages?
>>
>>I think its cheezy to have to pay 20bux for a demo copy...
>>
>>Thanks, Later, John
What's cheezier is calling them last Monday to purchase said evaluation
copy for $14.95, only to be told that I'd have to pay another $11 for
the ubiquitous "shipping & handling". I grumbled, and the phone rep
assured me that it was being shipped "express mail". Since I'm leaving
Friday morning for CA, I figured if I got it sooner I could play with it
more, so I assented.
It's now over a week later, and no package from Pages. There's about
5 other people at MIT who were going to get evaluation copies, but I shot
my mouth off and said I was getting it, so just come on over and I'll demo
it for you. Now I get mail every day asking if I have it... Of course now
I'm in workshop/paper/talk frenzy for my upcoming CA trip, so even if it shows
up tommorrow I won't install it because I'll be wasting 7 of my 30 days
while I'm gone. argh....
I'm getting a bit steamed. Does anyone have the 800 number handy so I
can call and ask where my copy is? I think Pages must be using the same
order fulfillment house as NeXT used to...
For a company that is on the order of two years late with their 1.0 product,
this is an inauspicious way to get the thing out.
BTW, I've seen Pages demoed over the years and think it's a truly revolutionary
product. I'm just steamed about this particular misadventure...
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From: teb@blencoe2.chem.ornl.gov
Subject: Re: "NS 3.2 and Mac disk weirdness*
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.141236.19101@ornl.gov>
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 14:12:36 GMT
In article <1994Mar16.080241.694@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> In article <1994Mar10.012317.25450@ornl.gov>,
> <teb@blencoe2.chem.ornl.gov > wrote:
> [...]
> > We just upgraded our NeXT hardware to NS 3.2 from
> >NS 3.0. I have a couple of questions/observations:
> >
> >(1) Mac-formatted diskettes appear on the browser shelf
> >with an icon for a Mac-formatted *optical* disk. Same
> >for DOS diskettes.
>
> We have the same symptom at uni - but only on our cube, all stations and
> white "NeXTs" are ok. However I haven't noticed any crash...
>
> Do you observe ths behaviour on a cube or on a station?
> (Maybe its the PLI floppy drive that causes the problem, as it is attached
> via the SCSI bus to the cube...)
>
> Gerhard.
It's an '040 cube. The "Mac weirdness" has not gone away. I'm
not sure how the floppy drive would cause the wrong icon to
be displayed, but this is just an annoyance. The trouble is
the warning in the 3.2 release notes concerning potential
system hangs with Mac disks. Has anyone had such a crash?
Since we don't have a service contract with NeXT, their
software support is not always very *supportive*.
Tim
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Data Viz under NeXT 3.0 and NeXT<->Mac transfers
Date: 17 Mar 1994 14:49:53 GMT
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In article <2m8t0b$9sn@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> daj@ccrma.stanford.edu writes:
> I have an old version of Data Viz Bridge from the 1.0 NeXT release. It
stopped
> working at some point (3.0?). Does anyone know if Data Viz still supports
the
> NeXT? I don't know their phone number (since the program won't launch.) Any
> info would be appreciated.
>
> Actually, the real problem is "how do I get files to/from my NeXT cube
(without
> floppy) to a Mac?"
>
> Buying an external floppy is an option, but they're rare these days. It
almost
> seems like I'd be better off buying 2 Syquests, one for the NeXT and one for
> the Mac. Seems like an expensive solution, though. Another possibility is an
> Ethernet card for the Mac, I suppose. I have a powerbook 140.
>
DataVizBridge Release 2.0 (v01) was still working last time I tried. DataViz's
number is 203-268-0030. They sell a version of MacLinkPlus/PC which includes
the necessary cables to hook the sucker up to your serial port. It's a nice
piece of software with all of those translators so if you're trying to convert
from Word or WordPerfect into Frame, it's pretty much essential.
These days, I'm just using the modem in my Powerbook 170 to call into the NeXT.
Running PPP software makes the process pretty nice so I can just use Fetch (ftp
package for the Mac) to get/put files to the NeXT and it has a number of
different transfer options. I also run the Mathematica kernel on my NeXT when
I'm at home since the Powerbook is underpowered for that particular task.
Mark.
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
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Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 17 Mar 1994 14:23:38 GMT
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In article <jeffo.763880247@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
writes:
Regarding Pages:
> I hope so too, thanks for posting about it. So far, reviews have been
> non-existant (probably due to the lack of a demo on the net).
The reason why there is no demo in the archives is because the shipping program
is on 10 diskettes and soon Compact Disk.
The size of the program is on the order of 8 or 9 MB (don't remember exactly
because I don't have it loaded on Black).
Pay the $1495 for the demo, it's fully functional and blows up after 30 days.
Dave
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
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Subject: Re: Data Viz phone number
Date: 17 Mar 1994 14:25:30 GMT
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In article <2m8t0b$9sn@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> daj@ccrma.stanford.edu writes:
> I don't know their phone number (since the program won't launch.) Any
> info would be appreciated.
>
In Trumbull, CT (right next to slimy Bridgeport: (203) 268-0030.
Dave
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From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
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Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.085904.13658@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 17 Mar 94 08:59:04 MDT
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In article <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu>, izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
> somewhat competing products: Illustrator from Adobe and Freehand
> (Virtuoso on NeXT) from Aldus (Altsys)?
>
> Are these products going to be merged as well?
> How does the merger affect Altsys that is the actual developer
> of Freehand and Virtuoso?
Zowy! When did this happen? Where can I find details?
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From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <CMtJrv.BFE@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp> <2m8db9$b19@agate.berkeley.edu> <jeffo.763879493@uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:11:55 GMT
Seems to me we ought to give the AFS development team a bit more credit
for what IMHO is a very usable first release. The user interface feels
very clean and functional. An earlier criticism re a photocopied manual
failed to note that the "real" manual whold be shipped as soon as it
was received from the printer. Meantime, the temporary manual is certainly
readable.
The only significant problem I have found is related to Igor.app, the
filter which provides for importing WriteNow files. It was probably
rushed into distribution against the protest of the responsible programmer.
If it would be possible to ship a fixed Igor.app along with the new
manual, I would be more than pleased.
If only Word Imperfect were as functional in it's first release, then
we might have something to complain about. Just my 2 cents worth.
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From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeH
Date: 17 Mar 1994 17:58:29 GMT
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In article 9g4@agate.berkeley.edu, izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
[... munch ...]
What merger? Never heard about it.
Please elaborate.
Nevin
From: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: On Table Editors..
Date: 17 Mar 1994 18:15:10 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2ma6ne$fpn@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Yesterday I had the very doubtful pleasure of helping a friend work
on tables in WP/Window's Table Editor. I thought that perhaps my
earlier criticisms of this editor had become out of date, since most
of my experience had been with WP/DOS. Surely with a GUI, even a
Windows GUI, the table editor would be much more usable?
Well, forget it. We spent several hours getting tables to look
presentable, even after WP did much of the work for us (we were
importing the tables from a spreadsheet, and WP automatically creates
a table structure as you do this). Formatting those tables was just
sheer agony, with repeated encounters with umpteen dialog boxes.
Once again: if WP/NS had this table editor, I WOULD NOT USE IT. I'm
glad its not there taking up HD space.
That doesn't change the fact that we do need a good table editor for
NS. I usually work in Mesa and then paste a graphic image of the
table into my word processor, but this method does have limitations
(and doesn't work with object links). Note that, IMHO, this is
actually better than what WP/Windows provides, since at least I CAN
paste in graphic images of tables. But I'd love to see a
TableBuilder counterpart to EqB. Or better linking options from
spreadsheets like Mesa.
Ciao, Stefano
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From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 17 Mar 1994 18:07:00 GMT
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Well as far as I know... Aldus and Altsys are two different companies.
I can't imagine Adobe mergint with Aldus. Adobe produces Illustrator
and Photoshop... Aldus produces Freehand... and Altsys produces Virtuoso
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From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Message-ID: <CMtotA.EH2@eunet.ch>
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 19:00:45 GMT
In article <2m9p5a$4lo@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm
Shift, Inc.) writes:
> In article <jeffo.763880247@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens)
> writes:
>
> Regarding Pages:
>
> > I hope so too, thanks for posting about it. So far, reviews have been
> > non-existant (probably due to the lack of a demo on the net).
>
> The reason why there is no demo in the archives is because the shipping
program
> is on 10 diskettes and soon Compact Disk.
>
> The size of the program is on the order of 8 or 9 MB (don't remember
exactly
> because I don't have it loaded on Black).
No, actually if you load EVERYTHING, it's more like 20 megs... But it's
worth it !
I'm still in the discovery phase, so I'll post more (to my previous post)
at a later stage...
Alexander Lamb
Expert Quantitative Trading
Genev / Switzerland
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
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Subject: Re: Pages Review Please...
Date: 17 Mar 1994 19:12:29 GMT
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In article <1994Mar16.030355.11200@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> In article <Mar.15.18.32.57.1994.6178@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> >>Would some one please post a review of Pages?
> >>
> >>I think its cheezy to have to pay 20bux for a demo copy...
> >>
> >>Thanks, Later, John
>
> What's cheezier is calling them last Monday to purchase said evaluation
> copy for $14.95, only to be told that I'd have to pay another $11 for
> the ubiquitous "shipping & handling". I grumbled, and the phone rep
> product. I'm just steamed about this particular misadventure...
>
>
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Apparently the high price of the evaluation copy is due to media cost
alone, since it takes about a zillion disks.
Having ordered my demo a couple months ago and not received it, I called
Pages, located here in San Diego. They assured me most demos were
shipping Wednesday the 16th (yesterday). If they stuck to that schedule,
I should have my eval. copy today, since they're local. As soon as I get
any kind of feel for it, I'll post a review.
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From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 17 Mar 1994 19:51:43 GMT
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In article <2ma684$8rk@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don
Bora) writes:
> Well as far as I know... Aldus and Altsys are two different companies.
> I can't imagine Adobe mergint with Aldus. Adobe produces Illustrator
> and Photoshop... Aldus produces Freehand... and Altsys produces Virtuoso
>
The part about Aldus and Adobe merging is true...a quick excerpt from the
AP article:
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Adobe Systems Inc. and Aldus Corp., the
leading makers of desktop publishing software, said Tuesday they
would merge in a stock swap valued at about $525 million.
Quite a desktop publishing powerhouse, don't you think? You can read all
about it in clari.tw.computers, article 1792 I believe.
-jamey.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 17 Mar 1994 20:03:49 GMT
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In article <2ma684$8rk@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) writes:
>Well as far as I know... Aldus and Altsys are two different companies.
>I can't imagine Adobe merging with Aldus. Adobe produces Illustrator
>and Photoshop... Aldus produces Freehand... and Altsys produces Virtuoso
The merger story was in SF Chronicle Bus. section front page yesterday (Mar. 16).
Not a 1-st class paper, but it can't be all bogus. There is also a
posting from someone else as quoted below.
Yes, I know Aldus and Altsys are different companies, but as I
understand it, BOTH (Aldus) Freehand and (Altsys) Virtuoso are
really produced by Altsys. It so happens that Aldus just sells
Freehand under its own label, and provide support for it.
Lorin at Altsys stated in the past that Virtuoso for NEXTSTEP will
likely to be renamed to Freehand and possibly will be sold from Aldus
as their product just like Freehand currently is (after all these
two programs must share substantial amount of internal code, or
soon they will. Even now, their PS prologs are nearly identical if
you examine the PS files produced by Freehand and Virtuoso).
In any case, I thought it is likely that something will happen to
these two products after Adobe-Aldus merger as these two are competing
products. Also, since Altsys is the OEM supplier of Freehand and
Virtuoso to Aldus, they seem to be in a awkward position in this
merger. No? Being in the academia, I am no expert, but as a
user of Virtuoso, I would like to know what the plans are.
Izumi
>From: rajeev@netcom.com (Rajeev Karunakaran)>Subject: Adobe and Aldus to merge
>Message-ID: <rajeevCMsL29.MJE@netcom.com>
>Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
>Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 04:42:07 GMT
>
>In case you haven't heard...
>
>Adobe Systems and Aldus Corp, two of the leading makers of DTP software,
>are merging to become the fifth largest software company. The new company
>will be called Aldobe (my guess), and will be headquartered at Mountain
>View, Calif. Both companies will continue to sell all of their current
>product lines.
>
>Aldus, maker of PageMaker, is headquartered in Seattle. Aldus made a profit
>of $9.5 million from sales of $206 million in 1993, and has 1000 employees.
>
>Adobe, maker of PostScript, is headquartered in Mountain View, Calif. Adobe
>made a profit of $57 million from sales of $313 million in 1993, and has
>1,100 employees.
>
>Executives of the two companies described the merger as a marriage of equals.
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From: pd@world.std.com (Peter F Davis)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <CMtrEy.A96@world.std.com>
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 19:56:57 GMT
izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
>somewhat competing products: Illustrator from Adobe and Freehand
>(Virtuoso on NeXT) from Aldus (Altsys)?
>Are these products going to be merged as well?
>How does the merger affect Altsys that is the actual developer
>of Freehand and Virtuoso?
My optimistic guess is that Adobus will concentrate on Illustrator
(for which it owns the sources) and let Altsys take back Freehand.
Currently, Altsys is contractually prohibited from marketing an
illustration package on Mac and Windows platforms (by agreement with
Aldus). The big question is: what happens to this agreement after the
merger?
If Adobus is scared of the competition, it will continue to prohibit
Altsys from marketing a Freehand-like product, but it will concentrate
its own efforts on Illustrator. This would be really unfortunate,
since Freehand would basically stagnate then.
Of course, I don't know the terms of Altsys's agreement with Aldus,
but it's possible they could regain the right to market on Mac and
Windows if Aldus is no longer doing so.
-pd
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Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
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In article <2ma684$8rk@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
writes:
> Well as far as I know... Aldus and Altsys are two different companies.
> I can't imagine Adobe mergint with Aldus. Adobe produces Illustrator
> and Photoshop... Aldus produces Freehand... and Altsys produces Virtuoso
Actually, Adobe bought Aldus as was announced on Monday of this week. Adobe's
stock went down and Aldus' stock rose $.75 on Tuesday.
Lorin is not at Altsys this week, however, no one at Altsys really knows what
will happen with the two competing products on the Mac and PC
Freehand/Illustrator. They themselves are waiting to see and brought up the
possibility of them marketing Freehand on their own or by another third party.
I always call Freehand the Mac version of Virtuoso anyhow. The technology was
only licensed to Aldus.
Dave
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Cond Text (was WriteUp Review)
References: <2m2lii$kna@news.mic.ucla.edu> <1994Mar15.132915.19963@bmd.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 07:13:59 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.071359.737@proximus.north.de>
In article <1994Mar15.132915.19963@bmd.com>, Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> wrote:
>As do strikethrus. Our office uses them all the type in document revision
>in FrameMaker to show what was has been removed and what has been
>replaced. The "changebars" just show what has been changed but don't let
>you know what was there in the first place unless you refer to previous
>documents.
Why don't you use conditional text in FM? Then you can even distinguish
between different reviewers. This would be a nice feature in WriteUp 2.0 as
well... ;-)
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Typo Criminals: Was Re: WriteUp Review
References: <9403151549.AA01092@nesteggs.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 07:25:17 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.072517.930@proximus.north.de>
In article <9403151549.AA01092@nesteggs.com>,
Michael E. Crawford <crawford@nesteggs.com> wrote:
>How about:
>
>An check box in the Preferences for WriteUp that reads " I wish to
>commit typographic crimes or I use a lot of vectors or edited legal
>documents in my work. Enable underlining & strikethrough."
YES! This is it! :-)))
>And for importing foreign documents, have an Alert Panel pop up that
>states:
>"This document contains several egregious examples of typographic
>incompetence. Should I translate them verbatim or enhance the
>document with formally agreed conventions?" and then present the user
>with Verbatim, Enhanced and Cancel buttons, where the Enhanced button
>would invoke Jonathan Hendry's excellent idea:
[...]
Great. I really would like that. ;-)
>I would put a smiley somewhere in here, but I'm serious.
I'm seroius as well, but even though I have fun. I like the idea. Really.
Gerhard.
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From: taft@mv.us.adobe.com (Ed Taft)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.195353.27283@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
References: <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 19:53:53 GMT
In article <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes:
>What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
>somewhat competing products: Illustrator from Adobe and Freehand
>(Virtuoso on NeXT) from Aldus (Altsys)?
Nobody knows yet, and any statement to the contrary is pure
speculation. The Adobe-Aldus merger that was just announced won't be
consummated until about July, pending shareholder and regulatory
approval. Heck, we don't even know what the name of the combined
company will be. In the meantime, it's business as usual for both
companies.
--
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From: frank@fnbc.com (Frank Mitchell)
Subject: Typo Criminals: Was Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.203653.11775@fnbc.com>
Sender: news@fnbc.com
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
References: <9403151549.AA01092@nesteggs.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 20:36:53 GMT
In article <9403151549.AA01092@nesteggs.com> crawford@nesteggs.com (Michael E.
Crawford) writes:
> How about:
>
> An check box in the Preferences for WriteUp that reads " I wish to
> commit typographic crimes or I use a lot of vectors or edited legal
> documents in my work. Enable underlining & strikethrough."
[other sneers deleted.]
Like it or not, many publishers insist on underlining instead of italics. I'm
told typesetters find underlining more readable than italics. For
self-published documents, underlining is probably a bad idea, but when you're
submitting a manuscript to somebody else, you have to play by their rules.
Much as I love NEXTSTEP, the one attitude I hate in the NEXTSTEP community is
the "I don't happen to like this, so you don't need it" mentality. NEXTSTEPs
less-than-inspiring market performance, and the unwillingness of a lot of
software companies to write apps for it, stems in large part from this sort of
snobbery.
If these "typographic crimes" make a document unreadable to most people, no one
will read it. Simple as that. But if customers like underlining or footnotes
or overstrike, if they want these features, or think they need them, they will
buy a product that has them. (One can always include "ugly features", and then
discourage their use via UI design so the God of Typographic Beauty is partly
appeased.)
>
> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>
> >On top of that, I think it's ridiculous for other folks to decide
> >what features are aesthetically pleasing for me. As ugly as a
> >double underline, smallcaps, shadow or outline may look to some,
>
> I suspect most of us live in cities with zoning. Does your city have
> a billboard ordinance? How do you feel about a local government
> delineating the aesthetic & functional use of land?
A bad analogy -- I can't ignore a strip joint next to my apartment, but I can
simply throw away an unreadable (or unpleasant-looking) document.
--
Frank Mitchell
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From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Re: Device dependent colours( was: Color Panel Behavior?)
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.033720.5536@stone.com>
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
References: <2m7l9f$hkk@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 03:37:20 GMT
In article <2m7l9f$hkk@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca
(Ivan Vesely) writes:
> In article <1994Mar14.180319.5182@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin
Rivers
> III) writes:
> > The RGB and HSB colors are ``device-independent'' color and the CMYK
> > color is ``device-dependant'' colors.
> >
> Could someone explain this to me please: I've had no problems printing
from my
> B&W NeXTStation to a colour Tektronix printer, untill I ugraded to NS
3.2. At
> that point, all my colours became really washed out. Cyan was no longer
cyan,
> and red turned out a muddy purple. This happened to existing files that
I
> generated before switching over to 3.2. BTW, the way I make colour
diagrams is
> from the colour picker. I just pick some good sounding colours and then
> preview them on my SGI machine, before dumping them to the colour
printer.
> They look great on the SGI, but poor on the printer. Any idea of what
has
> changed when I moved to 3.2?
You may want to look into CMYKAdjust just for grins - from Developer
Release Note's AppKit.rtf, and I quote:
"The 3.1 Window Server has the ability to use an enhanced algorithm for
rendering device-dependent CMYK colors on an RGB device. This results in
greater accuracy in the on-screen appearance of CMYK colors and can be
especially important in publishing applications.
In 3.1, this feature is disabled by default, as it tends to make a lot of
older applications behave strangely. It may be enabled for an application
by setting the NXCMYKAdjust default to YES:
dwrite appname NXCMYKAdjust YES
Specifying GLOBAL as the appname will enable it for all applications. One
application for which it makes sense to enable this feature is Preview.
It permits Preview to display CMYK colors much more like they will appear
when printed."
>
> --
> Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics
> University of Western Ontario, vesely@heartlab.rri.uwo.ca
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 17 Mar 94 23:03:11 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.763945391@uiuc.edu>
References: <jeffo.763880247@uiuc.edu> <2m9p5a$4lo@inxs.concert.net>
Dave from Paradigm Shift, Inc. writes:
>Pay the $1495 for the demo, it's fully functional and blows up after 30 days.
Actually, it costs US$25.95 (it's US$14.95 for the product demo and
US$11.00 for the shipping and handling) and at present, demos haven't
shipped even to people that have had their demo orders placed for a
while now (both details according to other posts from other people).
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From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages -- Why isn't it on an ftp site?
Date: 18 Mar 1994 00:09:50 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2marge$63s@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
So what if it is 10 MB? If I can download MouseX, then I can download a
Pages demo. Even if it takes four or five minutes over my ethernet, it is
still less trouble than getting the demo throught the mail. I think they
should put a demo version on the ftp sites.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 01:04:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2maunh$6ln@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp> <2m8db9$b19@agate.berkeley.edu> <jeffo.763879493@uiuc.edu> <CMtJrv.BFE@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
<praise for WriteUp munched>
I agree that it's very nice. It just didn't do one
thing that I HAD to have (footnotes). But I hope to
god they continue to improve it as I really like
its structure.
Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins University
From: smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu (Steven McGrew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3D apps--any ideas?
Date: 18 Mar 1994 00:59:42 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2maudu$ga7@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <1994Mar9.203237.20797@pcp.ca>
>Hello!
>
>I'm in the midst of evaluating 3D graphics and animation software and
>welcome any opinions any of you can provide on what's 'out there.'
>
> StudioPro looks very good and Strata says it will ship a native PPC601
> version as soon as Apple ships their beloved PowerMacs (middle of
>March).
Well, here's my 2 bits -
I have used Studio-Pro extensively and do not find it very good at all.
It has some SERIOUS bugs and is slow regardless of what anyone says (
however I am curious about the power-macs myself- I have played with them
and they are zippy, however the basic underlying truth is that the Mac OS
is not very effecient no matter how you look at it). It does not really
support much in the way of animation and the tools although MUCH better
than StrataVision are not all that great.
I have decided to take the plunge into a NeXTstep 3d package. I have been
using SolidThinking Modeler for almost 8 months now (now in version 1.2
however a MUCH improved 2.0 version is due out very soon --This should be
VERY exciting) and I think that this package, although harder to learn
than most macintosh based systems, is extremely powerful. I am currently
working on an animation project that requires the ability to model some
fairly complex models and Solidthinking's tools, once mastered, are very
flexible. This package currently does not support animation (due in the
2.0 release - I believe in May) but for modeling this package is right up
there with high end professional systems in many areas.
I have had experience with popular software on many platforms (PC, Mac,
SGI, Sun, NeXTstep) and feel that for the price to performance that
Solidthinking provides it is a good choice.
I would be interested in hearing what other people think about other
packages. I think that the NeXT system is ideal for 3d software
considering the 3d kit and renderman software.
-Steve
smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.140612.13670@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 17 Mar 94 14:06:12 MDT
References: <jeffo.763880247@uiuc.edu> <2m9p5a$4lo@inxs.concert.net>
Distribution: world
Organization: Utah State University
In article <2m9p5a$4lo@inxs.concert.net>, info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes:
> In article <jeffo.763880247@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
> writes:
>
> Regarding Pages:
[...munch...]
> Pay the $1495 for the demo, it's fully functional and blows up after 30 days.
^^^^^
Zowy. It must be good. ;-)
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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <espritCMu7z3.7o7@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <2ma684$8rk@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> <2mae6c$a5m@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 01:54:38 GMT
In article <2mae6c$a5m@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com writes:
>In article <2ma684$8rk@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
>writes:
>> Well as far as I know... Aldus and Altsys are two different companies.
>> I can't imagine Adobe mergint with Aldus. Adobe produces Illustrator
>> and Photoshop... Aldus produces Freehand... and Altsys produces Virtuoso
>
>Actually, Adobe bought Aldus as was announced on Monday of this week. Adobe's
>stock went down and Aldus' stock rose $.75 on Tuesday.
Actually, it was more of a merger and it is not yet complete. It still has
to be approved by the majority of the shareholders. This is supposed to happen
around July when all of the Aldus magically becomes 1.15x more Adobe stock.
Apparently, the CEO at Aldus wanted to step down and the options were to either
find a new CEO or merge with a company with established management. Also,
on their own, Aldus could be too easily jarred by products from their
neighbor in Redmond, so the merger with Adobe is a good thing to protect
Aldus from Microsoft. (In case you don't see the Microsoft threat to Aldus,
MS could develop and afford to sell a DTP package at a loss long enough to
kill Aldus. This is harder to do with the Aldus/Adobe combo.)
Now, I wasn't aware of this, but Aldus and Altsys were apparently battling
over the name "Freehand". Does anyone have details on this? If there is
some legal wrangling between Aldus and Altsys, this Adobe deal seems like
a good out for Aldus (as they wouldn't be missing a product in that market).
Altsys may be out in the cold.
Oh, well. I am running Illustrator on my NeXT anyway.
Other interesting speculation that doesn't belong in this newsgroup is
what happens to Quark.
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 01:27:49 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
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References: <jeffo.763945391@uiuc.edu>
In article <jeffo.763945391@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
writes:
> Actually, it costs US$25.95 (it's US$14.95 for the product demo and
> US$11.00 for the shipping and handling) and at present, demos haven't
> shipped even to people that have had their demo orders placed for a
> while now (both details according to other posts from other people).
> --
The reason why demos have probably not gone out is because they've probably
been EXTREMELY BUSY getting product out to customers who have paid the $595.00
for the full-blown version.
Give them time, they'll catch up.
Dave
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From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: FAT Hackers Jargon Dictionary?
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.155728.13674@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 17 Mar 94 15:57:28 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
Is there a FAT version of the most excellent Hackers Jargon dictionary? If
there is, could someone direct me to its location?
Many thanks,
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Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
[Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] slxn8@cc.usu.edu
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 03:02:37 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mb5kd$gd4@inxs.concert.net>
References: <1994Mar17.140612.13670@cc.usu.edu>
In article <1994Mar17.140612.13670@cc.usu.edu> slxn8@cc.usu.edu writes:
> In article <2m9p5a$4lo@inxs.concert.net>, info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm
Shift, Inc.) writes:
> > In article <jeffo.763880247@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
> > writes:
> >
> > Regarding Pages:
> [...munch...]
> > Pay the $1495 for the demo, it's fully functional and blows up after 30
days.
> ^^^^^
> Zowy. It must be good. ;-)
Sorry - missed the decimal point!
Dave
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From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1500@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 18 Mar 94 01:59:01 GMT
References: <1994Mar17.085904.13658@cc.usu.edu>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
slxn8@cc.usu.edu writes
> In article <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu>, izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
(Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> > What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
> > somewhat competing products: Illustrator from Adobe and Freehand
> > (Virtuoso on NeXT) from Aldus (Altsys)?
> >
> > Are these products going to be merged as well?
> > How does the merger affect Altsys that is the actual developer
> > of Freehand and Virtuoso?
>
> Zowy! When did this happen? Where can I find details?
Adobe and Aldus signed an agreement on the 15th to merge, although it
must be approved by the FTC and so forth before it's final. No specific
plans have been announced for any of the products so far. There should
be a press release somewhere on the net, and I don't want to go out on
any limbs, since I work there (although it took most of us by surprise
too :-)
One share of Aldus stock is to be worth 1.15 shares of Adobe stock, as
I understand it. John Warnock will remain CEO of the merged company,
Chuck Geschke the President, and who knows from there. Paul Brainerd,
the current CEO of Aldus, is to take a seat on the board of directors.
This is all in the press release, as are some other things that I can't
remember, like combined revenues, etc., etc. Draw your own conclusions,
of course.
--
Glenn Reid glenn@rightbrain.com / greid@mv.us.adobe.com
Woodside, California
speaking only for myself
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 03:49:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <jeffo.763945391@uiuc.edu> <2mb02m$est@inxs.concert.net>
<stuff deleted about how Pages demo costs too
much, isn't on archives, etc.>
I've just used Pages for about 4 hours now. It's
stupendous. Fast and solid. Very weird. I have
to completely revise a lot of ideas about text
formatting, however, and it seems a bit Draconian
in imposing styles on me.
If you have to write or format text for a living,
and have a Next Intel machine (as for black you
may already have a satisfactory app) try Pages.
More later
Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages -- Why isn't it on an ftp site?
Date: 18 Mar 94 03:54:06 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.763962846@uiuc.edu>
References: <2marge$63s@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Todd Takken writes:
>So what if it is 10 MB? If I can download MouseX, then I can download a
>Pages demo. Even if it takes four or five minutes over my ethernet, it is
>still less trouble than getting the demo throught the mail. I think they
>should put a demo version on the ftp sites.
I agree. Same goes for WriteUp (if I'm willing to download 20MB for
Pages [latest word has it at around 20MB], I'm definately willing to
download 1MB). Putting demo apps on ftp sites is one area where I
think the NS standard is worth upholding and getting other platforms
to adopt.
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 18 Mar 1994 03:23:35 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mb6rn$gqv@inxs.concert.net>
References: <espritCMu7z3.7o7@netcom.com>
In article <espritCMu7z3.7o7@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
writes:
> Actually, it was more of a merger and it is not yet complete. It still has
> to be approved by the majority of the shareholders. This is supposed to
> happen around July when all of the Aldus magically becomes 1.15x more Adobe
> stock.
Yes in a legal sense it was a merger, however, if you look at the numbers
(which I am sure Brainerd did, Adobe's doing quite well and Aldus had quite a
bit less profit on roughly (I believe) the same amount of revenues as Adobe.
Quark has hurt Aldus' PageMaker sales in a major way (too bad Quark never
finished their NeXTSTEP port) ):-(
Dave
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From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Adobe/Adlus Merge - Press Release
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.163947.13676@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 17 Mar 94 16:39:47 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
Here is the press release that I just downloaded from Adobe's BBS.
John Zollinger
slxn8@cc.usu.edu
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Adobe Systems and Aldus Corporation Announce to Merge
Creators of Electronic Publishing Industry Join Forces to Seize of Expanding
Opportunities in the Creation and Communication of Digital Information
Mountain View, Calif., (March 15, 1994)- Adobe Systems Incorporated
(NASDAQ: ADBE) and Aldus Corporation (NASDAQ: ALDC) today announced a
definitive agreement to merge through an exchange of common stock of the
two companies, creating a new half-billion dollar leader in software
for authoring and publishing electronic information.
Under the agreement, which has been approved by the boards of directors
of both companies, Adobe will exchange 1.15 shares of its common stock
for each share of Aldus common stock. Based on approximately 13.8
million shares outstanding of Aldus stock and the current Adobe stock
price, the transaction will have a value of approximately $525 million.
The merger is intended to qualify as a tax-free reorganization and a
"pooling of interests" for accounting and financier purposes. "We are
committed to achieving the cost savings necessary to make this
transaction non-dilutive in the first full year of the combined
operations," said John Warnock, Chairman and CEO, Adobe Systems
Incorporated.
The merger will be considered for approval by shareholders of both
companies at separate meetings anticipated in July 1994 with the merger
to be effective immediately following shareholders approval. Paul
Brainerd, president, founder and major shareholder in Aldus has agreed
to vote his shares in favor of the merger and has given Adobe an
irrevocable proxy for all of his Aldus shares in connection with such
vote.
In addition, Aldus and Adobe have each agreed to the payment of a
break-up fee if under certain circumstances the transaction should not
be completed. The merger is subject to numerous conditions.
"We believe our two companies, each with a rich history of inventing
different aspects of the electronic publishing revolution, are simply
much stronger together-- both technologically and financially-- than we
would be by remaining separate," said John Warnock. "Combined, the two
companies offer products that address every aspect of information
authoring and representation, and in the future, can draw from that
expertise to pioneer the process and provide the tools required to help
our customers move from today's paper-based information infrastructure
to tomorrow's digital world."
"The challenges of the competitive landscape and the breadth of new
market opportunities offered by the digital revolution can be much
more effectively met by merging our companies than by either company
individually," said Chuck Geschke, president and COO, Adobe Systems
Incorporated." The combined company offers tremendous opportunity
for more competitive marketing, higher levels of customer service
and better responsiveness to customers' evolving needs."
Paul Brainerd said the merger offers both short and long term benefits
because of the broad array and depth of products that the companies
can now market and distribute together, as well as the tremendous
technological synergy that exists between the two companies for the
development of future products. "Together, Adobe and Aldus can
generate tremendous momentum to meet customer requirements. The new
company will have the largest, most respected typeface library, the
world's top-selling page layout solution, and best-of-breed
illustration, photo-editing, presentation, image retrieval and
video-production applications. These technologies are the
foundation for today's most powerful publishing and authoring
solutions and tomorrow's tools for creating and distributing
information digitally ."
Brainerd, Warnock and Geschke are widely recognized in the software
industry for having created the desktop printing and electronic
publishing phenomena, which has grown into a $2 billion industry
since the early 1980s. Adobe, founded in 1982, provided the first
open standard for representing the printed document, PostScript, and
the technology to support that standard. Brainerd, who founded Aldus
in 1984, coined the term "desktop publishing" and created the top
selling PageMaker software system that allows visually-rich
documents to be created on personal computers.
Under terms of the merger agreement, Warnock, 53, will become chairman
and CEO of the new company with headquarters in Mountain View, CA.
Charles Geschke, 54, president of Adobe, will retain the same position
in the new company. Brainerd, 46, and another current member of Aldus'
board, will become members of the Board of Directors of the new company
once the merger is complete. The structure of the merged company will
consist of operating divisions including Systems Products, Application
Products, and Consumer Products. Facilities will be maintained in both
Mountain View, CA and Seattle, WA. Current plans call for the new
company to continue to market and support all major products of both
companies. Future corporate identity plans will be determined when the
merger is final.
Each company has sales and distribution operations outside of the United
States. In Europe, Adobe is headquartered in Amsterdam and Aldus is
based in Edinburgh. Both Aldus and Adobe maintain Pacific Rim operations
in Tokyo and other major cities.
On a combined basis, the companies had revenues last year of $520 million
and more than 2,100 employees located throughout the world. For fiscal
1993, Adobe reported revenues of $313 million and net income of $57
million, while Aldus reported total revenues of approximately $207
million and net income of $9.5 million. Adobe has approximately 45.7
million shares outstanding, and Aldus has approximately 13.8 million
shares outstanding.
Adobe develops, markets and supports computer software products and
technologies that enable users to create, display, print and communicate
electronic documents and manipulate digital content to moving pictures
and sound. The company licenses its technology to major computer and
publishing suppliers, and markets a line of type and application
software products worldwide.
Aldus creates computer software solutions that help people throughout the
world effectively communicate information and ideas. The company focuses
on three main lines of business: applications for the professional
publishing, prepress and video markets; applications for the consumer
market; and applications for the emerging interactive publishing market.
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: NS3.2 on 030 Cube
Message-ID: <CMsGFy.2pE@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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References: <2m5fm1$rgl@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 03:02:22 GMT
In article <2m5fm1$rgl@netnews.upenn.edu> rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E.
Huque) writes:
#
#
#
#
#From my understanding, NeXTstep 3.2 (and any 3.x) is optimized for the 040
#chip. Is it possible to install 3.2dev on an 030 machine? If so, I have
#a number of questions:
#
#
#1. Will it be slower than the original NeXTstep 1.0?
Probably not since the code is much better in the later releases.
#2. Will it be more compatible with 040 cubes running 3.x?
By compatible what do you mean?
#3. What other bugs and/or problems might we face?
Loading the software migh be tricky since it only comes on CD and you
need to boot from the floppy (if you have one) to see the CD.
You might find a friendly person to put the boot stuff on an OD.
#4. Could it act as a Unix server to several PC clients?
Yep.
Kent
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From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: Pages -- Why isn't it on an ftp site?
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <CMuGA6.FrJ@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 04:54:06 GMT
References: <2marge$63s@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <jeffo.763962846@uiuc.edu>
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
In article <jeffo.763962846@uiuc.edu>,
J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jeffo@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>I agree. Same goes for WriteUp (if I'm willing to download 20MB for
>Pages [latest word has it at around 20MB], I'm definately willing to
>download 1MB). Putting demo apps on ftp sites is one area where I
>think the NS standard is worth upholding and getting other platforms
>to adopt.
>
Absolutely. That used to be standard behavior in the NeXT
community, but it's become more and more scarce. Even most of the
companies that used to put demos out there have let them age to the
point that most of them don't resemble the actual products anymore.
The filling up of sonata may have contributed to this, but we still
have at least two adequate sites -- those guys in Munich are doing a
great job.
Even if the demos are time-bombed instead of call-for-a-key,
if you're proud of the product, let's see it. I'd never buy a piece
of software I couldn't test drive.
Rob
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 05:29:25 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
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References: <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
In article <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea
Brooks) writes:
> <stuff deleted about how Pages demo costs too
> much, isn't on archives, etc.>
>
> I've just used Pages for about 4 hours now. It's
> stupendous. Fast and solid. Very weird. I have
> to completely revise a lot of ideas about text
> formatting, however, and it seems a bit Draconian
> in imposing styles on me.
>
> If you have to write or format text for a living,
> and have a Next Intel machine (as for black you
> may already have a satisfactory app) try Pages.
>
Pages is MAB also so it runs on Black too! ;-)
Dave
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From: Mark Engelhardt <MarkE@Wayzata-Tech.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with Decompress - (Novice Next User)
Date: 17 Mar 1994 02:36:11 GMT
Organization: Wayzata Technology Inc
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2m8fmr$4gn@cedar.mr.net>
HELP
HELP
HELP
Am I want to do is decompress a file "next_slip_digex.compressed"
with the folder inspector
and the decompresion runs for a second and then both files are gone !!!
What is wrong with me?
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From: jsvrc@edison.rc.rit.edu (J A Stephen Viggiano)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Sender: news@ultb.isc.rit.edu (USENET News System)
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References: <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 03:43:00 GMT
In article <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes:
>What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
>somewhat competing products: Illustrator from Adobe and Freehand
>(Virtuoso on NeXT) from Aldus (Altsys)?
I hope like all heck it means they're going to keep Illustrator and
sh*tcan that awful piece of dreck, Freehand.
Sorry, no smileys for this one.
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 08:00:19 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2mbn2j$322@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <jeffo.763945391@uiuc.edu> <2mb02m$est@inxs.concert.net> <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
><stuff deleted about how Pages demo costs too
>much, isn't on archives, etc.>
>
>I've just used Pages for about 4 hours now. It's
>stupendous. Fast and solid. Very weird. I have
>to completely revise a lot of ideas about text
>formatting, however, and it seems a bit Draconian
>in imposing styles on me.
>
>If you have to write or format text for a living,
>and have a Next Intel machine (as for black you
>may already have a satisfactory app) try Pages.
>
>More later
>
>Robert de Lucca
>Johns Hopkins
>
Ah yes but can you underline? :-)
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From: dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 09:10:19 GMT
Organization: MicroMuse Ltd, London, England
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Paradigm Shift, Inc. (info@paradigm-shift.com) wrote:
: In article <jeffo.763880247@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
: writes:
: Regarding Pages:
: Pay the $1495 for the demo, it's fully functional and blows up after 30 days.
Thats one expensive demo!
You forget a dot dude? B)
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From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 11:59:16 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2mc52k$gb3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <jeffo.763945391@uiuc.edu> <2mb02m$est@inxs.concert.net> <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2mbn2j$322@steffi.demon.co.uk>
In article <2mbn2j$322@steffi.demon.co.uk>,
Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>><stuff deleted about how Pages demo costs too
>>much, isn't on archives, etc.>
>>
>>I've just used Pages for about 4 hours now. It's
>>stupendous. Fast and solid. Very weird. I have
>>to completely revise a lot of ideas about text
>>formatting, however, and it seems a bit Draconian
>>in imposing styles on me.
>>
>>If you have to write or format text for a living,
>>and have a Next Intel machine (as for black you
>>may already have a satisfactory app) try Pages.
>>
>>More later
>>
>>Robert de Lucca
>>Johns Hopkins
>>
>
>Ah yes but can you underline? :-)
>
>--
You can even strikethrough. :-) It seems made for legal,
business, edu drafts, etc. Very good tables feature.
RKD
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 12:53:14 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <2mc87q$7sl@news.tamu.edu>
References: <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp> <1994Mar16.211624.9557@news.yale.edu>
In article <1994Mar16.211624.9557@news.yale.edu>,
Anand R. Mehta <mehta-anand@yale.edu> wrote:
>
>I am a TeX/LaTeX nut. It is wonderful and I use it for just
>about everything. But the issue that comes to my mind is that
>it is overkill for quick notes and the like. Last night was
>the first time I took a look at WriteUp. I made a nice
>letterhead that resembles my letterhead.sty for LaTeX. It was
>very easy and I set up nice environments for bullets (using
>expert fonts, etc) and quotations. But there are a few
>simple problems:
>
>Does it have the nice summary heading on subsequent pages (To:
>recipient Date, etc.) that my style file does? No. If I
>want to number the pages in WriteUp, can I suppress numbering
>the first page? I don't know and couldn't seem to find it in
>the manual.
You don't describe exactly how you set up your document, so I'm
going to make some assumptions. Did you place your letterhead
material in the header? Did you place the page number in the
footer? If so, I would reorganize things slightly to accomplish
the result you desire.
Both headers and footers can be suppressed on page 1 (see
Format>Page Layout on the menu). I would set up the header
with the To: and Date: structure and suppress it on page 1.
Then I would simply place the letterhead materials in the text
stream at the top of page 1. This brings up a feature that
could be useful: the ability to have the page 1 header be
different from all others (Greg, are you listening?). But in
this case, I don't think it would be unpleasant not to have
that feature.
Assuming you put the page number in the footer, the solution is
really the same. Suppress the footer on page 1 to get page
numbers on only the subsequent pages.
Once you've set up these things save the template. With each
new memo you would simply have to enter the appropriate
recipient and date command (because it's not inserted as a
token yet and would not be updated) into the header. It's a
little more work, but not a lot really.
>How can I get graphics to work with a template?
>I get a link error every time I try and open one.
I don't know enough about this to try to answer intelligently.
Diana
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 18 Mar 1994 13:04:58 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
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References: <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
In article <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jsvrc@edison.rc.rit.edu (J
A Stephen Viggiano) writes:
> I hope like all heck it means they're going to keep Illustrator and
> sh*tcan that awful piece of dreck, Freehand.
>
Yeah, whose Version 6 of their own product has problems opening Version 3
files, product on the NeXT you probably won't see past it's current version
(although RightBrain was going to update Illustrator as of last NeXTworld
Expo).
Illustrator may have been the standard but Aldus has been good at upsetting
that standard.
Dave
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From: pd@world.std.com (Peter F Davis)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <CMv8q3.25t@world.std.com>
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
References: <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu> <1994Mar17.085904.13658@cc.usu.edu> <2ma684$8rk@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:08:26 GMT
dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) writes:
>Well as far as I know... Aldus and Altsys are two different companies.
>I can't imagine Adobe mergint with Aldus. Adobe produces Illustrator
>and Photoshop... Aldus produces Freehand... and Altsys produces Virtuoso
Wrongo! Freehand is written by Altsys under contract with Aldus, who
markets the product.
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Hex binary editor ?
Message-ID: <1994Mar18.150338.1179@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 15:03:38 GMT
I'm looking for a hex editor for LARGE files (>1MB) for NEXTSTEP.
Emacs (NS) in hexl-mode crashed me the machine two times, XMon is not
very capable. A reasonable shell tool would also do.
Gregor
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From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Message-ID: <CMvBFy.Dv0@eunet.ch>
Keywords: Wordprocessor
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
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Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 16:07:09 GMT
In article <2mc52k$gb3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L.
Anathea Brooks) writes:
> In article <2mbn2j$322@steffi.demon.co.uk>,
> Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
> >><stuff deleted about how Pages demo costs too
> >>much, isn't on archives, etc.>
> >>
> >>I've just used Pages for about 4 hours now. It's
> >>stupendous. Fast and solid. Very weird. I have
> >>to completely revise a lot of ideas about text
> >>formatting, however, and it seems a bit Draconian
> >>in imposing styles on me.
> >>
> >>If you have to write or format text for a living,
> >>and have a Next Intel machine (as for black you
> >>may already have a satisfactory app) try Pages.
> >>
> >>More later
> >>
> >>Robert de Lucca
> >>Johns Hopkins
> >>
> >
> >Ah yes but can you underline? :-)
> >
> >--
> You can even strikethrough. :-) It seems made for legal,
> business, edu drafts, etc. Very good tables feature.
>
> RKD
>
I'm very impressed by the tech. support !!!
I'm waiting now for new Design Models... and the developer's kit (maybe
some new consulting opportunities !)
Alexander Lamb
Expert Quantitative Trading
Geneva / Switzerland
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 08:25:06 -0500
Organization: Collins International Services Company
Message-ID: <2mca3i$8cp@sgate.com>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <2m2lii$kna@news.mic.ucla.edu> <jeffo.763683498@uiuc.edu>
In article <jeffo.763683498@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>After reading these reviews, I'm suprised so many problems got past
>either the beta-testing group or the AFS programmers before public
>release. Undo not working? No underline? Turning a document into
Undo works for me. I don't use underline. The release notes state that the
RTF converter has its quirks, and you can't POSSIBLY tell me that this
partially greek file can be noncomplex.
I'd rather have a product I can work with now, rather than wait for a WriteNow
converter. Sure, I've got stuff in WriteNow -- my pizzabox had it legally
bundled (wayyyy back in December '90).
>all-Greek characters past the point where a few Greek characters were
>inserted? Improperly converting a one-page WriteNow file into a
>58-page file?
<sigh> That's a result of the RTF importer not quite up to snuff yet.
There's giving a product some constructive critisicm and there's just being a
pain in the butt about it.
It's got its flaws but IT IS USEABLE.
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From: calderd@nic.ott.hookup.net (Richard Lacelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP and MailServer using POP
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 17:02:48 GMT
Organization: Phoenix Systems Synectics
Message-ID: <calderd.5.2D89DEB8@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Summary: how to send mail via POP
Keywords: slip,pop,mail
Hi,
I am using TransSys SLIP to create a slip connection to an internet service
provider (HookUp Communications), which uses a POP3 server. Now I am using
PopOver to retrieve mail addressed to the server. But how do I set it up so I
can send mail outside my computer to the server. PopOver is only retrieve,
right?
Can someone please help me here.
Richard Lacelle
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <CMv8Cx.4MH@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:00:31 GMT
In article <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jsvrc@edison.rc.rit.edu (J
A Stephen Viggiano) writes:
>>In article <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes:
>>>What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
>>>somewhat competing products: Illustrator from Adobe and Freehand
>>>(Virtuoso on NeXT) from Aldus (Altsys)?
>>
>>I hope like all heck it means they're going to keep Illustrator and
>>sh*tcan that awful piece of dreck, Freehand.
>>
>>Sorry, no smileys for this one.
>>--
Let me re-iterate this...but in reverse! I hate Illustrator.
No smilies and no apologies either.
--
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CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ImageViewer whitewash
Date: 18 Mar 1994 11:14:33 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Does anyone know why ImageViewer's images looks so washed out?
I had noticed that the images looked like they had a high degree of
white "saturation" - but when I compared them to images rendered with
CVIEW in Windows (in NS I'm running 16-bit (4096 colors) and in Windows
I'm running 32K colors), I was amazed at the large degree to which the
Windows images looked more vibrant. It is not a matter of fewer colors,
as even 256-color GIF's show this dramatically. Any suggestions?? IF
not, is there another ImageViewer-type program that will read JPEG and
GIF images and treat them to more brilliance? Thanks. This is a very
upsetting discovery.
bp
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review (long)
Date: 18 Mar 1994 17:19:41 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
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Being a poor student, I couldn't afford buying the demo, let
alone the real product, so I did the next best thing. I came
up with a list of questions that I was curious about and sent
them to info@pages.com. A couple of days later, I get a very
thoughtful answer from Susan Peterson. (Thank you, Susan). I decided
that many of you might benefit from reading this message.
I apologize for biases to graphics and MSWord features
in my questions. One thing that struck me as odd is that
Pages does not support Rulers, How can they measure anything?
Do they have other mechanisms for text and graphic placement???
Here is the reply, I got from Pages:
Dear Wassim,
Here are the answers to your questions:
Graphics:
1) Can one place a figure after a reference to it and have the text
flow around the figure, but prevent the reference to flow past
the figure. (e.g. Avoid referencing a figure on a previous page)?
Pages 1.0 does not support referenced text or automatic cross-references.
2) Can text flow only above and below the figure, not at the sides?
Yes. The flow depends upon the style choice of the graphic. For example,
most in-column graphics (both fixed and floating) have text before and
after, but not surrounding the figure. Some graphic styles (e.g. Large or
Small Centered in the Victory Design Model) allow both frame (rectangular)
and image-wrap of the text to occur at the sides of the graphic.
3) Can text flow across pages if the graphic consumes a whole page?
Yes. If the graphic is fixed, it will not move from its current page. If
it is floating, the graphic will move with the surrounding text.
4) Does the figure have a 'white-space' frame around it that can be
resized independent of the graphic?
Yes. If you place a Border on the graphic there is an Inset Border option
(with Tailoring On from the Preferences Panel) that allows the user to
increase the white space between the Border and graphic. The user can
also "Show Knobs" in the graphics inspector and size the graphic in such a
way as to increase the surrounding white space.
5) Can graphics be included separately and 'linked-in' instead of
copied in so that scrolling and such is faster? They can be
loaded in when printing is required?
Yes, NEXTSTEP object-linking is supported. However a displayable version
of the graphic still resides in the document for display purposes. If you
have a large document with many graphics. you can choose to "Hide
Graphics" from the Preferences/Show Options to speed up scrolling and
display of the pages.
6) Do you have a vertical as well as a horizontal ruler?
Currently rulers are not provided.
7) Can graphics 'snap' to gridlines, margins etc.?
Yes. Fixed elements (graphics, tables, rules, titles, fixed heads, etc.)
snap to a grid that is defined in each Design Model. See "Show Grid" in
the Columns Inspector (with Tailoring On from the Preferences Panel).
Other Features
8) Can you apply styles to characters or words? Or is it limited
to paragraph styles?
Certain element styles (e.g. Emphasis, Inks, etc.) can be applied to words
as well as paragraphs. Each element has its own defined scope of
application (e.g. entire document, text-only, paragraph-only, etc.).
9) How about automatic page-numbering of 'chapters' saved in
different documents? Can those be linked in a sequence?
Automatic page numbers is supported in documents, but not across
documents. However, a document can contain multiple sections or
"chapters" and auto-page numbering is supported across them.
10) Mail-Merge?
Not supported in Release 1.0.
11) What input/output formats do support?
Input of ASCII, RTF, WordPerfect, WriteNow, and Frame MIF. Output of
ASCII and RTF. Enhanced filter support is underway.
12) Do you handle references/bibliographies/index entries?
Bibliographies and indexes must be created manually. The multiple-section
feature of Pages can simplify the formatting and management of these
sections in a document.
13) Automatic generation of tables of contents, list of figures?
No, however there is a Table of Contents style in the Listings elements
that can be used for both.
14) How about equations? Do I need to buy another package and insert
EPS files?
Yes, we work currently with numerous equation applications. One
recommendation is object-linking of EquationBuilder.
15) Spell-Checking? Hyphenation? Char/Word/Parag counting?
Yes, yes, no.
I hope this helps,
Susan Peterson
Pages Software Inc
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From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 17:22:37 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <2mco0t$5b8@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <2mc52k$gb3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Does it handle equations? Indexing? TOC?
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From: flash!jon@myxa.com
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <CMu4AC.Bu@dsinc!flash>
Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry)
Organization: Who Needs It?
References: <jeffo.763879493@uiuc.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 00:34:59 GMT
In article <jeffo.763879493@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
writes:
> Any word on when WriteUp will be updated?
Wow. How long has the app been out? Less than a month?
Patience, grasshopper. :)
- Jon
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: AFS! -- CodeUp (editor) <- WriteUp <- PasteUp please.
Date: 18 Mar 1994 17:47:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mcpeq$i81@agate.berkeley.edu>
I got the WriteUp package yesterday (it must have taken some time to
propagate to CA via UPS Ground). I like it.
[though I also need underline feature too.]
Particularly, I like the *multiple views* into a single document.
This is the feature I have always wanted in Edit.app.
So, please AFS, strip out some more features from WriteUp and
come out with a nice programmers' editor with multiple views into
a single file. [For those who want to stay away from emacs.]
I want multiple views, undo, and horizontal scroll: two of which are
already there in WriteUp text object.
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From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: vm_map in NeXTStep 3.2
Date: 18 Mar 1994 17:23:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2mco36$8lk@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <2m7qvl$9gh@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>
Claudio Silva writes
#Does NeXTStep 3.2 support external pagers ? Does it support the vm_map
#function call, present in other versions of Mach 2.5 ?
#
#Thanks a lot,
#
#Claudio. (csilva@cs.sunysb.edu)
I don't believe that the NeXT version of mach has external pagers. I think that
they started from the CMU 2.0/2.1 sources and added a few features of 2.5.
(Then again, I could be wrong...)
Mark
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Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and
in no way represent Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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From: thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: project management software, native NS PD or shareware apps?
Message-ID: <1994Mar17.124419.887@gamelan.uucp>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.uucp (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <1994Mar15.091218.840@proximus.north.de>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 12:44:19 GMT
In article <1994Mar15.091218.840@proximus.north.de>
gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
>
> sccs - "standard" Unix utility. Already on your NeXT, only
> command line,
> sort of cryptic, but free and wide spread. Does only
> handle
No, it's not on NeXT's standard distribution. You usually find it on most
commercial unix system. Nevertheless discouraged to use, better use RCS.
NeXT's RCS is stoneage-ware, so you have to upgrade !
>
> cvs - builds on top of rcs, can handle directories, but needs
> some tricky
CVS is THE way to go. While a bit complicated first, there is an easy
emacs-interface (included is the distribution) which is sufficient for
most common users.
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From: sieber@hermes.unifr.ch (Adrian Sieber)
Subject: Question on Interface Builder
Message-ID: <1994Mar18.173139.17539@unifr.ch>
Keywords: Interface Builder, GUI, NeXT
Sender: news@unifr.ch (User for news)
Organization: University of Fribourg (Switzerland)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 17:31:39 GMT
Hello,
The first versions of the Interface Builder for NextStep
(the ones delivered with version 1.0 of the NeXT system...)
had a rather annoying problem: the so-called "code merging
problem", i.e. in case of an enhancement or revision of a
graphical user interface built with Interface Builder all
code added by the programmer to the generated code was
overwritten with the newly generate code. So it was up to
the programmer to save his edits in a safe location and to
merge them with the new code.
I am sure that more recent versions of the Interface Builder
provide a more sophisticated solution to this problem.
Unfortunately, I don't have access to a NeXT workstation,
so I wonder if someone could tell me how more recent versions
of the Interface Builder make the connection between
user-written code and code generated by the Interface Builder.
Thanks
--
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
In-Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com's message of Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:00:31 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Mar18103327@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <CMv8Cx.4MH@dvorak.amd.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 18:33:27 GMT
Ron Pomeroy x(Coop) writes:
>>> I hope like all heck it means they're going to keep Illustrator and
>>> sh*tcan that awful piece of dreck, Freehand.
>>> Sorry, no smileys for this one. --
Ron> Let me re-iterate this...but in reverse! I hate Illustrator.
Ron> No smilies and no apologies either.
<Speaking *completely* for myself, as if you didn't know...>
Both products have their loyal following. Personally, being one of the "DPS
fanatics", I hope they *both* stay around. Virtuoso is the best proof that
a Display PostScript can be fast given good programmers that I've seen yet.
(And I hear that the difference in speeds between the NeWS and upcoming DPS
versions on Solaris will shock some people into believing... ;-)
And Illustrator? Well, we've gotten some politics out of the way. Truth
is, we've still got some more to work on. And if the NeXT community still
wants it, they're going to have to show a demand for it. Our applications
(*very* unfortunately) don't get originally developed on Unix, and so take
more work than might make business sense.
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1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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Subject: cancel <BYER.94Mar18103027@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
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Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 18:35:37 GMT
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From: curious@watnxt02.ucr.edu (Jon P Tsai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP for NeXT
Date: 18 Mar 1994 19:22:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2mcv1u$gn5@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <2m8267$fm5@galaxy.ucr.edu>
In article <2m8267$fm5@galaxy.ucr.edu> curious@watnxt06.ucr.edu (Jon P Tsai)
writes:
> Hi, I am wondering if anyone has been able to compile PGP for the NeXT. I
have
> been tring... and have not been too successful to put it lightly. If anyone
can
> tell me where to find the NeXT source for PGP, I will be enternally grateful!
>
> Thank,
> Curious
>
> PS plz send any reply to curious@watserv.ucr.edu
Hello again. I would like to take the time and thank everyone for their help!!
For some reason, the source code I got doesn't support NeXT. But, now it is all
over. I even installed the NXPGP front end too, thanks to you all!
However, installing NXPGP does raise two more questions. First of all, for
some reason, NXPGP doesn't work (ie wont sign, encrypt, etc.) unless I have
the PGP and .pgp files in my home directory. If I have it in another directory
in my home directory, even if I have the setting right, it wouldn't work.
Second, I am wondering if there is a way to perform the 'pgp -s textfile [-u
your_userid]' function from NXPGP. It seems that the 'Sign' function doesn't
produce the same effect for it doesn't encrypt the text with my secretkey, it
just sign it. Basically, I guess I am wondering if there is a way to encrypt
the text with my secretkey so I can send it to people who have my public key by
using NXPGP.
Thanks again for your help.
Curious@watserv.ucr.edu
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From: anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <1994Mar18.190524.28706@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
References: <2mc87q$7sl@news.tamu.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 19:05:24 GMT
In article <2mc87q$7sl@news.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
writes:
> >Does it have the nice summary heading on subsequent pages (To:
> >recipient Date, etc.) that my style file does? No. If I
> >want to number the pages in WriteUp, can I suppress numbering
> >the first page? I don't know and couldn't seem to find it in
> >the manual.
[munch]
> Both headers and footers can be suppressed on page 1 (see
> Format>Page Layout on the menu). I would set up the header
> with the To: and Date: structure and suppress it on page 1.
> Then I would simply place the letterhead materials in the text
> stream at the top of page 1. This brings up a feature that
> could be useful: the ability to have the page 1 header be
> different from all others (Greg, are you listening?). But in
> this case, I don't think it would be unpleasant not to have
> that feature.
The questions were mainly rhetorical, but your suggestion is
a good one and works well. Inserting the data as a token
would be nice, but isn't a hassle right now. Another thing I
noticed was that there is no method of preventing widows and
orphans. This would be a nice touch in my opinion.
> >How can I get graphics to work with a template?
> >I get a link error every time I try and open one.
>
> I don't know enough about this to try to answer intelligently.
There is a known bug in copying through links with the Open
From Template option. AFS told me to open the template and
use a Save As until it gets fixed.
Thanks for the hints,
-Anand
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: project management software, native NS PD or shareware apps?
Date: 18 Mar 1994 14:24:50 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mcv62$oea@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <1994Mar17.124419.887@gamelan.uucp>
Thomas Funke writes
> CVS is THE way to go. While a bit complicated first, there is an easy
> emacs-interface (included is the distribution) which is sufficient for
> most common users.
Since when does an emacs front end to anything make things simpler!
:-)
DevMan from VNP goes a ways towards making it easier to use...
When I asked about this several months ago, there were a number of
responders who said they had front ends that they expect to have released by
now... (shareware, freeware)..
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From: jason_fosback@psca.com (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP and MailServer using POP
Date: 18 Mar 1994 18:41:46 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <2mcsla$ajd@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <calderd.5.2D89DEB8@nic.ott.hookup.net>
In article <calderd.5.2D89DEB8@nic.ott.hookup.net>
calderd@nic.ott.hookup.net (Richard Lacelle) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I am using TransSys SLIP to create a slip connection to an internet
service
> provider (HookUp Communications), which uses a POP3 server. Now I am
using
> PopOver to retrieve mail addressed to the server. But how do I set it up
so I
> can send mail outside my computer to the server. PopOver is only
retrieve,
> right?
>
> Can someone please help me here.
>
> Richard Lacelle
Unfortunately, the only way to get outbound mail to work is to tweak your
sendmail.cf file. Since you have SLIP working, your machine should be
more than capable of handling outbound mail.
If you'd like an example of how to set this up, see the
UofO_SLIP_configuration.compressed file on the archives (it's in
/pub/next/binaries/comm on cs.orst.edu).
I realize it's more complex than most people would like, but I haven't had
the guts yet to write a replacement mail filter for Mail.app using PopOver
technology.
-jason
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <Mar.18.13.58.19.1994.4297@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 18 Mar 94 18:58:19 GMT
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes:
>Underline is a serious typeographic no-no. A holdover from those typewriter
>days when you has to switch balls to get the correct font. So the lazy just
>underlined.
Well I dont want to slam on purists about this, but quite honestly this kind
of philosophy is more appropriate in a DTP app than a word processor, no?
>SmallCaps as done on other machines is a gross hack. To do small caps
>properly, you have to switch to a small caps font. Outline and Shadow are
>things that "shouldn't oughta happen to a nice font like that..." Although
>I must admit the Mac ATM Shadow looks really nice :-)
>I don't know what people would use strike-through or redline for - it's a
>shame to do something like that to a character. Double underline? Two
>wrongs don't make a right.
You'll find strike thru used a good bit in business and finance. It is good
to illustrate that a previous deliverable is no longer on the agenda, etc.
>
>Well, given that Greg is a stickler for good typography, if underlining is
>really missing, it's not surprising. Since you shouldn't be using it anyway
>:-), I don't think it's a "major" hole.
I do think its a big hole. I understand the stickler for typography bit, but
I think that kind of philosophy is more appropriate in a DTP package than
a wordprocessor, but maybe thats just my lamo opinion :)
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <Mar.18.14.03.51.1994.4861@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 18 Mar 94 19:03:52 GMT
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <CMoLAq.H8@dsinc!flash>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
flash!jon@myxa.com writes:
>How about a user-defined mapping scheme to translate typographic no-no's into
>formats usable in WriteUp? (underline=bold, etc). It might not satisfy folks
>who want a "lossless" translation, but at least it would be consistent.
Now here is an idea with merit... First off we should absolutely have all of
those ugly (but in my opinion) but neccessary styles. But have a feature that
when execute goes through the document and converts ugly styles like
underline->italic etc. to make the document politically correct. I'd like that
...it would help teach me at least some basic no-no's. But I still want the
ability to keep things ugly, not to mention those ugly features to have many
real world uses.
Later, John
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 18 Mar 1994 20:17:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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References: <Mar.18.13.58.19.1994.4297@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Mar.18.13.58.19.1994.4297@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
writes:
>byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes:
>
>>Underline is a serious typeographic no-no. A holdover from those typewriter
>>days when you has to switch balls to get the correct font. So the lazy just
>>underlined.
>
>Well I dont want to slam on purists about this, but quite honestly this kind
>of philosophy is more appropriate in a DTP app than a word processor, no?
I agree. Typography is not welcome in many places (not that I like it).
Newspaper and magazine reporters don't submit typeset articles to their
editor, but they do use word processors.
A lot of journals that do peer-reviews of submitted manuscripts
don't want typography in manuscripts. They specify that all text
must be double spaced, words to become italics be indicated by
underline, do not include figures in main text, and do not justify
text. Perhaps the situation is quite different for math, physics,
and EE journals that want submissions to be in TeX.
Our manuscripts often look a lot better during early draft stages, when
they are going back and forth among authors. When the time comes to
submit the finished manuscript, we destroy the typography, replace
graphics with:
================
Fig. 1 near here
================
I wish we could submit nicer looking manuscript. In fact, as a
reviewer of these manuscripts, I hate looking at double spaced text,
separated text, figure legends, and figures, flipping pages back
and forth. But, it's not like we have any choice at this point.
The bottom line is that a word processor must be able to do what
an old-fashioned typewriter can do, including all of it's ugly results.
The only chance we can do our own layout is for submissions to
non-refereed journals or conference proceedings that want camera-ready
copies, and for grant proposals, which is not that often, fortunately.
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From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages Impressions
Date: 18 Mar 1994 21:33:26 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2md6n6$pgp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
this isn't a features list of Pages, which you can
get for yourselves.
After a day of using Pages, I'm congratulating
myself on having stuck with NEXTSTEP (at various
points I'd considered going back to Macs). Pages
is the kind of app I can (finally) gloat over
having on this platform (well, Diagram2 is another) to
poor devils using Macs and PCs (well, I'm using
a PC, but it's running NS).
*Everything* works the way it's supposed to!! in
a 1.0 version!
To be brief, it's a joy to use.
RKD
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: QUICK PAGES REVIEW
Date: 18 Mar 1994 23:09:46 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mdcbq$jp5@network.ucsd.edu>
PAGES BY PAGES: PRELIMINARY REVIEW
The release of Pages by Pages Software of San Diego has raised hopes in
the NeXTStep community that, finally, we would get our hands on a
top-of-the-line wordprocessor. Since similar hopes have been disappointed
in the past, and since evaluating Pages is not free, there has been some
interest in reviews by people who have seen the software and had a chance
to check it out. I have seen the software and, given my own interest in
having a "real" wordprocessor, spent the better part of a workday figuring
it out. Needless to say, no one could hope to thoroughly master a package
this sophisticated in a day; the best I can claim is a nodding
familiarity. I have, however, formed a definite impression of what I like
and don't like about Pages, and I offer it for your consideration, with no
pretensions to comprehensiveness.
Me and my system: I run a NextStation Color, 32 MB RAM, NextStep 3.2. My
interest in a good wordprocessor may not be the same as yours; I am an
academic and a professional writer and translator.
0. SUMMARY
Pages appears strong on layout and design features, weaker on basic text
editing features. While it may be ideal for the corporate office, writers
and academics, especially those who've used NextStep for some time and
accumulated a number of documents in various formats, may miss some
expected features.
1. THE PACKAGE AND ITS INSTALLATION
There is a very good reason why the evaluation copy costs money. This is
a BIG package, distributed on 10 HD floppies, and the price of the
evaluation copy appears to reflect media cost alone. The documentation
says that Pages requires 20MB to install, and they are not joking. I know
that these days most of you have unlimited disk space, but I do not, so
the size is a serious concern. Most of the 20 MB is put to good use;
however, some is not. The Pages package installs fat binaries only.
About 4 MB can be saved by stripping the excecutables manually, which of
course requires locating them amongst the brances of a vast installation
tree. Another 6MB of sample documents are provided, and one can
presumably do without these. So figure 10MB for a "minimal" installation.
One very nice feature of the evaluation copy is that it comes with full,
printed documentation. We know how rare that is!
2. THE USER INTERFACE
The Pages interface is very slick, and quite functional. It is based
around a new element unique to Pages, the Design Model. A Design Model is
a collection of layout and design objects packaged in an extension that
resides in the user's Library; Pages is shipped with three of these (at
least, the evaluation copy is shipped with three). These objects are
manipulated through a fairly intuitive, iconic, drag-drop based system.
Interface elements familiar from "traditional" wordprocessors, such as
rulers, are lacking. This means that the Pages interface isn't entirely
transparent to the new user, and requires some adjustment. However, the
documentation explains the basics quite clearly, and one is up and running
in short order.
Those of us who like to keep our fingers on the keyboard may find Pages a
little frustrating. The mouse gets heavy use, and many actions appear to
lack keystroke equivalents. If, for example, you need a lot of footnotes,
your speed may suffer by comparison with WriteNow or WordPerfect.
One can only admire the amount of care that has gone into this interface,
especially considering the small size of the NextStep market. Given the
high level of object-literacy in the NextStep community, I think that if
the folks at Pages Software are smart, they'll release a Pages Developer
Kit. The documentation alludes to Design Models purchasable from Pages or
third party developers, but many of us are probably capable of writing our
own. The existence of freely redistributable Design Models could only
increase interest in Pages itself.
3. COMPATIBILITY
My only severe disappointment with this product falls under this heading.
Pages is quite capable of importing text from ascii, rtf, mif,
WordPerfect, and WriteNow formats. I have tested it on each of these, and
in every instance the result was error-free. However, when I say Pages is
capable of importing text, I mean just that: text is brought in without
ANY of its old formatting. Even footnotes are lost.
Now, even FrameMaker, for all its faults, is capable of adding its own
formatting on top of that of a WriteNow document, but despite my best
efforts, I have been unable to discover any way of doing this in Pages.
Since my current project is three hundred pages long and heavily
footnoted, the time involved in bringing it over to Pages would be
prohibitive. If anyone can prove me wrong on this, I'd like to know.
4. STABILITY
Compared to many other first releases (or even third or fourth releases,
such as the infamous WordPerfect for NeXT), Pages is relatively bug-free.
Still, I was able, without malice, to discover one show-stopping bug in a
fairly short amount of time (a half hour). Switching between plain text,
italics, underlining, and boldface using the keystroke equivalents (and
perhaps also the menu--I didn't test this) invariably, after a couple such
changes, produces a "spinning disk" crash. The application then has to be
killed from Workspace or a terminal window.
5. DOCUMENTATION
The documentation is well-written and clearly cross-referenced. It
includes a tutorial which guides you through the steps of preparing a
sample memo. Those of us who don't write many memos might wish for
something more, but the example is general enough to allow its lessons to
be applied toward other documents.
6. WILL I BUY PAGES?
Maybe. If it turns out I was wrong about the impossibility of importing
without loss of formatting, the answer is, definitely. But remember,
there is less at stake for me than for some of you: the educational
pricing offers substantial savings.
I hope this review proves useful. I'm faxing a copy of it to Pages
Software; if I get any feedback, I'll pass it on to this group.
--
Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions
expressed by anyone at any time.
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <CMvo8v.MwA@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <BYER.94Mar18103327@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 20:43:40 GMT
In article <BYER.94Mar18103327@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com
(Scott Byer) writes:
>>
>>Ron Pomeroy x(Coop) writes:
>>
>>>>> I hope like all heck it means they're going to keep Illustrator and
>>>>> sh*tcan that awful piece of dreck, Freehand.
>>
>>>>> Sorry, no smileys for this one. --
>>
>>Ron> Let me re-iterate this...but in reverse! I hate Illustrator.
>>
>>Ron> No smilies and no apologies either.
>>
>><Speaking *completely* for myself, as if you didn't know...>
>>
>>Both products have their loyal following. Personally, being one of the "DPS
>>fanatics", I hope they *both* stay around. Virtuoso is the best proof that
>>a Display PostScript can be fast given good programmers that I've seen yet.
>>(And I hear that the difference in speeds between the NeWS and upcoming DPS
>>versions on Solaris will shock some people into believing... ;-)
>>
>>And Illustrator? Well, we've gotten some politics out of the way. Truth
>>is, we've still got some more to work on. And if the NeXT community still
>>wants it, they're going to have to show a demand for it. Our applications
>>(*very* unfortunately) don't get originally developed on Unix, and so take
>>more work than might make business sense.
>>
>>--
Gosh, I feel kinda' bad using that word "hate" - especially since Scott has
answered numerous (often stupid) questions in the past for me.
Let's just say that I find AI extremely un-intuitive and difficult to use. It
does have the coolest tool panel around though. It's always difficult
engineering a product for both the novice and the advanced user. I also hope
both products prosper and improve. More importantly I hope both find there way
to OpenStep implementations.
Scott and Co.:Keep up the good work!
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 18 Mar 94 23:43:08 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.764034188@uiuc.edu>
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <2m2lii$kna@news.mic.ucla.edu> <jeffo.763683498@uiuc.edu> <2mca3i$8cp@sgate.com>
Mike Matthews writes:
>It's got its flaws but IT IS USEABLE.
Usable, in that it won't crash? That's good, but I have higher
standards than a program that simply won't crash. I guess we have
differing ideas of what is useful. I don't consider a product that
has no footnotes/endnotes or underline useful. I can not do what I
need to do without them, no exceptions. It sounds like it has
potential, but it doesn't sound like it would be able to handle any of
the documents I'd use even WriteNow/NS on.
As for constructive criticism, as I've said before, I suggest adding
the missing features and providing mechanisms for doing what other
general-purpose word processors on other platforms do. Their
interfaces aren't the best I've seen, but they do have features that
NS word processors don't.
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 18 Mar 94 23:51:10 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.764034670@uiuc.edu>
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <Mar.18.13.58.19.1994.4297@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
John Kheit writes:
>I do think its a big hole. I understand the stickler for typography bit, but
>I think that kind of philosophy is more appropriate in a DTP package than
>a wordprocessor, but maybe thats just my lamo opinion :)
I don't understand how it's alright for the programmer to essentially
stick their nose in my documents, telling me what's "typographically
okay" on a DTP program but then say it's somehow not acceptable for
the programmer to do the same in a word processing program. What is
the significant difference?
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages Impressions
Date: 19 Mar 1994 00:04:41 GMT
Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mdfip$cg4@Times.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2md6n6$pgp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Someone briefly mentioned that Pages 1.0 does *not* support
crossreferencing of any kind. Is this really true?
Thanks,
---
Scott Roy
Department of Computer Science
Stanford University
From: Chris Wei-Tae Kim <ck32+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GatorFTP 1.4 problem for intel
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 21:28:54 -0500
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8hWaBay00WB2I2CWg5@andrew.cmu.edu>
I down loaded intel version of GatorFTP 1.4 and tried to use it.
Everything works fine except when I tried to get a file. It exits the
application with an error message in console, "Mar 18 16:26:19 stealth
GatorFTP[276]: Assertion failed: Unlocking Focus on wrong View" Is this
a bug or what am I doing wrong? It's great software but it is only good
for browsing the directories for right now. Any helpful hint will be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.
-Chris,
_ * Chris W. Kim (ck32@andrew)
|(_ |\/| |_| * Carnegie Mellon Univ.
| * 5030 Centre Ave. #951
| / Chris. * Pittsburgh PA, 15213
|/ | |\/| \\||// ___/| * Ph:(412)681-2499
|\ | | | -o.O- \o.O| * Class of 1994
| \ | | | (<>) =(o)= * Computer Science
***************** me * my girl friend ******************************
My first program I wrote in CMU 10 PRINT "CMU is #1!"
20 GOTO 10
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From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: GraphBuilder3.2b install problems
Message-ID: <CMvpE3.IwG@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 21:08:26 GMT
I read the doc on GraphBuilder3.2b in /pub/next/submissions on cs.orst and
decided to try it out. After downloading the pieces (for m68k) the
instructions say to double click VVdrafter.VVdistribute, 'break the
cellophane and click Distribute'.
However, all it does is die. Has anyone installed this on NS 3.0 ?
The doc says it 'runs on NS 3.2', but leaves open whether it requires 3.2.
Anyone know an email address for VVI Inc, the developer of this app?
Please reply direct.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
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From: rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
Subject: NEXTSTEP and LaserWriter Pro 630 --- Anyone else think output sucks?
Message-ID: <CMwAA0.1Dt@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 04:39:36 GMT
I was just wondering if anyone else out there is using an Apple LaserWriter
Pro 630 with an NS/Intel system. I think the output really sucks, even at
600dpi, especially compared to black hardware with a black printer. Any
thoughts? Anyone know if better drivers are on the way?
-Rob
rawyatt@csn.org (TEXT ONLY!!!)
rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly
Message-ID: <CMw97q.8vw@ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: Headless Slab Operation
Sender: David Bradford
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 04:16:38 GMT
I have two NeXTStations networked and I would like tho know if
there is software/hardware out there to operate one or more slabs
headless - without monitor or keyboard.
I figure that the biggest problem is turning the machine on. I figure
it will probably boot off of the net if I set it up as a diskless
client. Then I could either remotely login or "tip" over via the serial
ports.
Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions or
help will be much appreciated.
David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
P.S. Reason: Save electricty while doing PVM code development.
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteUp demo?
Date: 19 Mar 1994 05:07:43 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2me1av$p5b@network.ucsd.edu>
Is there such a thing?
--
Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions
expressed by anyone at any time.
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOS Partition blues
Date: 19 Mar 1994 00:20:36 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403190613.AA06406@PCS.CNU.EDU>
-
Dunno if this is a software or hardware question, so I'm posdting
in both bases....
Recently, under NSi, my 120mb MSDOS 6.2 (non double-spaced) which
partition -- which is 60% full -- is said to have no psace free. [sorry,
no del key -- typos galore!] It actually has about 50mb free. And I
get errors wheneve I copy files from DOS to NS partitions in NS when
I try to run or unpack them. Any idea what this could be? Under
scandisk in dos, the DOS partition seems ok. This is a big problem.
Any ideas?
bp
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From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Message-ID: <1994Mar18.222304.3532@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 22:23:04 GMT
In article <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea
Brooks) writes:
* I've just used Pages for about 4 hours now. It's stupendous.
* Fast and solid. Very weird. I have to completely revise a
* lot of ideas about text formatting, however, and it seems
* a bit Draconian in imposing styles on me.
The notions of imposed styles aren't really all that strange. This
is the notion behind TROFF Macro packages, TEX and LaTEX Macro
packages, and Scribe Style Databases.
Design Models are a Good Idea for the corporate publishing area.
If you're a company cranking out a lot of technical manuals, it's
to your advantage to have your manuals conform to a common style,
so that the look and feel is the same across all manuals. Readers
come to recognise a manual as a Schnook Company manual or something
like that.
When I was running Technical Publications at Sun, we had to explain
this concept to writers whose backgrounds had come from word
processing and less formal areas. Many writers wanted to be their
own amateur book designers instead of getting on with the writing,
and we had to explain that the creativity had to go into the
presentation and the words, not in fiddling with the layout. Formal
fixed design models can actually be a help in such cases, where
the prose is poured into a common design. It also means that when
you change your corporate design, it's [relatively] easy to
essentially ``re-compile'' all the manuals.
There's another benefit to publishing packages such as Pages. At
one time, the corporate publishing model [as espoused by outfits
like Texet -- R.I.P.], was the notion that you had word processing
drones typing raw text, then you had composition stations where
layout and publishing wizards would format prose into the design
models. This business model is just one of the reasons Texet went
out of business. Packages like FrameMaker, and now Pages, places
the writing and layout job on every writer's desktop, for substantial
improvements in productivity.
........ Henry
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages Review Please...
Date: 18 Mar 1994 19:14:27 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <2mcuij$em0@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <1994Mar16.030355.11200@news.media.mit.edu>
In article <1994Mar16.030355.11200@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> In article <Mar.15.18.32.57.1994.6178@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> What's cheezier is calling them last Monday to purchase said evaluation
> copy for $14.95, only to be told that I'd have to pay another $11 for
> the ubiquitous "shipping & handling". I grumbled, and the phone rep
> assured me that it was being shipped "express mail".
..stuff about it not arriving...
> --
> --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
I think paying for shipping the same product twice ($11 for the demo and $14
for the product if you buy it) is excessive. In response to my complaint, Pages
has made arrangements to ship the product to me via UPS ground (7-10 days) for
just under $6. The software has a 30day m.b.guarrantee and I'm using that to
avoid paying the shipping charge twice.
If you agree that these shipping charges are innapropriate please let
Pages know. Contact Susan Peterson <susan@pages.com>, she has been very
responsive and helpful.
_________________________________________
Paul Buckley
Mayo Graduate School (NeXT Mail)
Guggenheim 14 buckley@mayo.edu
200 First Street SW FAX 507-284-9349
Rochester, MN TEL 507-284-2065
55905
_________________________________________
"Applause is easy. Go out and do something."
-Audre Lorde, poet.
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From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: PGP for NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Mar19.041518.9085@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <2mcv1u$gn5@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 04:15:18 GMT
In article <2mcv1u$gn5@galaxy.ucr.edu> curious@watnxt02.ucr.edu (Jon P
Tsai) writes:
>end too, thanks to you all! However, installing NXPGP does
>raise two more questions. First of all, for some reason, NXPGP
>doesn't work (ie wont sign, encrypt, etc.) unless I have the
>PGP and .pgp files in my home directory. If I have it in another
>directory in my home directory, even if I have the setting right,
>it wouldn't work.
I told Sam, the author of NXPGP, about this but he seems busy. Why
don't you send him e-mail telling him of the problem again.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
BIX: rlove
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From: ccwf@ludwig.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tcsh
Date: 19 Mar 1994 11:37:52 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2meo6g$hmn@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Mar14120044@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1994Mar15.104256.6008@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <CEDMAN.94Mar15081838@capitalist.princeton.edu>
One warning: pipelines in tcsh will sometimes encounter the race
condition warned about in the docs. I believe this is due to a problem
in NeXT's implementation of stdio and does not occur under most other
UNIXes. The problem occurs with all versions of tcsh up to 6.04.00 and
all versions of NEXTSTEP up to 3.2, i.e., all versions so far.
,--
___ __ __. . ,-/-- I think I think;
(_,(_,|/|/ / therefore, I think I am.
--' -Ambrose Bierce
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ImageViewer whitewash
Date: 19 Mar 1994 03:05:38 -0800
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2mema2$erm@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <9403181707.AA02749@PCS.CNU.EDU>
Blake Patterson writes:
> Does anyone know why ImageViewer's images looks so washed out?
>I had noticed that the images looked like they had a high degree of
>white "saturation" - but when I compared them to images rendered with
>CVIEW in Windows (in NS I'm running 16-bit (4096 colors) and in Windows
>I'm running 32K colors), I was amazed at the large degree to which the
>Windows images looked more vibrant. It is not a matter of fewer colors,
>as even 256-color GIF's show this dramatically. Any suggestions?? IF
>not, is there another ImageViewer-type program that will read JPEG and
>GIF images and treat them to more brilliance? Thanks. This is a very
>upsetting discovery.
There are four things that could cause this "washed-out" effect.
1) You could have a stinkier monitor on the NS machine. This is unlikely.
2) RGB colors are platform-dependent -- there is no really good standard for
how they should look on the screen. (Unlike with, say, Pantone colors,
where Pantone, Inc. specifies what each color should really look like.)
Thus, each platform is going to display the same RGB triplets as
different colors. C'est la vie!
3) The 4096 colors available under NEXTSTEP are "true" colors, which means
the Color LookUp Table (CLUT) is fixed. GIFs start as 8-bit images,
but the 8 bits are actually just a lookup into a 256-entry table of
24-bit colors.
8-bit windowing systems (X-windows and some Macs, eg) just reset their
CLUTs to match the 256-entry table in the GIF file, and so in effect
you get 24-bit color (although only 256 of them).
Since you can't do this trick with NS, you end up having to dither to
simulate the 24-bit colors, even though there are only 256 of them.
Dithering can cause colors to look washed-out. You mentioned you have
32K colors under windows, so it's unlikely you're using a CLUT, but
of course dithering is going to look better with 32K colors than 4K.
4) Finally, there is something called "gamma correction" which I know very
little about, but apparently can be used to correct the way colors are
reconstructed when the image is unpacked. The McFilter service allows
you to set this on the fly for JPEGs and GIFs.
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP and LaserWriter Pro 630 --- Anyone else think output sucks?
Date: 19 Mar 1994 19:48:10 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2mfktq$10o@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <CMwAA0.1Dt@csn.org>
[Inappropriate crossposting removed]
In article <CMwAA0.1Dt@csn.org> rawyatt@csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt) writes:
>I was just wondering if anyone else out there is using an Apple LaserWriter
>Pro 630 with an NS/Intel system. I think the output really sucks, even at
>600dpi, especially compared to black hardware with a black printer. Any
>thoughts? Anyone know if better drivers are on the way?
If you're talking about the Courier font, it's a known problem
with the Pro 630. Apple issued an update last year called "LW
Pro Font Tune-Up v1.0" that contains a downloadable replacement.
-=EPS=-
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 19 Mar 1994 21:22:52 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mfqfc$apk@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <2mco0t$5b8@crcnis1.unl.edu>
In article <2mco0t$5b8@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott)
writes:
> Does it handle equations? Indexing? TOC?
>
That's a definite "no" on the equations.
--
Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions
expressed by anyone at any time.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: project management software, native NS PD or shareware apps?
Date: 19 Mar 1994 21:22:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mfqek$lra@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <2mcv62$oea@digifix.digifix.com>
In article <2mcv62$oea@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
> Thomas Funke writes
> > CVS is THE way to go. While a bit complicated first, there is an easy
> > emacs-interface (included is the distribution) which is sufficient for
> > most common users.
>
> Since when does an emacs front end to anything make things
simpler!
>
> :-)
>
> DevMan from VNP goes a ways towards making it easier to use...
>
> When I asked about this several months ago, there were a number of
> responders who said they had front ends that they expect to have
released by
> now... (shareware, freeware)..
Well, after my initial exposure to CVS in a NEXTSTEP world, I became
overwhelmed with all the gotchas related to dealing with file packages and
NS's complex project architecture. So I basically quit using it waiting
for a simpler, more robust approach to appear. I guess I should check out
DevMan. I sent email to SSS asking for info about DRCS, but received no
response :-(
So I reluctantly dusted off my cvs.postamble and decided to see what I
could do to integrate CVS into PB as it should be. It's still too early
to let the cat out of the bag, but basically, I've added several targets
to PB's target popUpList (thanks, NeXT, for making this extensible):
cvs_import
cvs_checkout
cvs_update
cvs_add
cvs_remove
cvs_status
cvs_checkin
I've extended cvs.postamble to define various constants like CVSROOT,
WORKDIR, VENDOR_TAG, etc. and have implemented the above targets using
appropriate CVS and RCS commands to deal with NS-specific features like
using Objective-C comments for in-file $Log$ messages, preventing RCS
keyword expansion in binary and certain other NS files, etc. I've placed
cvsignore files in various project directories to prevent the addition of
certain file or directories to the CVS repository (does it seem odd to
anyone but me that .csvignore must be included in .cvsignore to prevent it
from being archived - duhhh ?-)
All this extra stuff was what was killing me before because I'd forget
to tell RCS about Objective-C comments when I added a new file, for
instance, and then I'd end up with '#' comment characters in Objective-C
files which didn't make the compiler too happy :-) Or I'd forget to run
update -n in advance of a checkin to ensure that no binary merges were
going to be attempted (ever try to open a nib after CVS found and so
helpfully marked conflicting changes in data.nib that couldn't be merged
?-) Or I'd forget to run "make ckout" just after checking out or updating
or I'd forget to run "make ckin" before trying to check in nibs whose CVS
directories had been removed (as I recently found out, this can be handled
by CVS by adding an entry in commitinfo, but I degress).
So I've attempted to handle most of this cruft within my make targets
which *seems* to be taming CVS a little for me, at least. This approach
has its clunkiness, though. import or checkin want to have a command-line
message or they try to open your favorite editor which fails from the
non-interactive "make" shell, so I've declared a MESSAGE variable (and a
number of other similar variables) that may be defined in PB's Options
panel (fortunately, this panel can be resized because these options can
get pretty long).
Anyway, if this approach seems to work reasonably well with a little
more testing, I'll post a later version of cvs.postamble which those of
you using CVS can take for a test drive.
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: lachance@scheme.cs.ubc.ca (Daniel LaChance)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GatorFTP 1.4: app icon to % dial not working
Date: 19 Mar 1994 21:31:14 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mfqv2$m4l@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
When retrieving a file using GatorFTP 1.4 the application's icon in the
dock, or elsewhere, is suppose to change to a percentage retrieved dial,
(so if you hide the app you can still see how much of the file has been
retrieved) but for me it doesn't do this, it only goes blank. Does anyone
have an answer to correcting this?
Thanks,
--
Daniel LaChance
Undergraduate, Department of Computer Science,
University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada
NeXTmail accepted?: YES!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpw@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: can't post with NewsGrazer
Message-ID: <CMx5nE.BH6@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:57:14 GMT
I've been using NewsGrazer at work and home for a while
without any problem. Suddenly, at home, I can't post
anymore. All of the post options are gray'd out. Of
course I'm doing this over SLIP at home, but that wasn't
a problem before when I posted many articles without
problem. I don't see anything in Preferences. I removed
the NewsGrazer directory in ~/Library hoping that this
would solve it. I suppose I could remove my .newsrc
as well. Anyone know what's going on?
jpw@virginia.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages Templates Wanted
Date: 20 Mar 1994 00:20:32 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2mg4sh$ep5@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Has anyone designed some simple templates for Pages? Because Pages' paradigm
is different from what I am used to, a few skeleton "memos" and "letters"
would be quite helpful.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: swap@cato (Swap Production User)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <1994Mar20.003227.6755@fnbc.com>
Sender: news@fnbc.com
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
References: <jeffo.764034670@uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 00:32:27 GMT
J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes:
> John Kheit writes:
>
> >I do think its a big hole. I understand the stickler for typography
bit, but
> >I think that kind of philosophy is more appropriate in a DTP package
than
> >a wordprocessor, but maybe thats just my lamo opinion :)
>
> I don't understand how it's alright for the programmer to essentially
> stick their nose in my documents, telling me what's "typographically
> okay" on a DTP program but then say it's somehow not acceptable for
> the programmer to do the same in a word processing program. What is
> the significant difference?
> --
> *NO* NeXTmail please
Well, a DTP progrem is used by people who produce "finished" documents for
the general public (or sepcific target groups therein), while a
word-processor is used to generate rough-drafts, manuscripts for
submission to publishers, personal letters, etc. So DTPPs should adhere
to a higher standard, theoretically.
Of course, typographic fascism is pretty obnoxious in any program. I'd
rather have either a DTPP or WP with a typographic style checker that,
like a spelling checker (or those damned style-checkers), can be ignored
or turned off. Maybe the DTP typography-checker should whine a little
more loudly, but the user should still be able to gag the damn thing if he
WANTS strikeout or smallcaps (e.g. for humorous effect).
Frank Mitchell
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 20 Mar 1994 01:51:24 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2mga6s$m45@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <jeffo.764034670@uiuc.edu> <1994Mar20.003227.6755@fnbc.com>
>> WANTS strikeout or smallcaps (e.g. for humorous effect).
Here's a use in a finished document that's hard to refute: suppose
you are writing a book on typography, and you want to illustrate the
evils of underlining or other typographic taboos? Ha. You gotta
have it.
mark
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOS Partition blues
Date: 20 Mar 1994 03:07:41 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2mgelt$2ri@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <9403190613.AA06406@PCS.CNU.EDU>
In article <9403190613.AA06406@PCS.CNU.EDU>,
Blake Patterson <bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU> wrote:
> -
>
> Dunno if this is a software or hardware question, so I'm posdting
>in both bases....
>
> Recently, under NSi, my 120mb MSDOS 6.2 (non double-spaced) which
>partition -- which is 60% full -- is said to have no psace free. [sorry,
>no del key -- typos galore!] It actually has about 50mb free. And I
>get errors wheneve I copy files from DOS to NS partitions in NS when
>I try to run or unpack them. Any idea what this could be? Under
>scandisk in dos, the DOS partition seems ok. This is a big problem.
>Any ideas?
>
Known bug. Paritions >32 mb get hosed. Check Nextanswers.
I wish they would fix this, but as time goes on I care less about
windoze/dos.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: Alan Goldberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software applications and reference site's :
Date: 20 Mar 94 12:26:49
Organization: Softpac Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <alan.94Mar20122649@softpac>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Keywords: Graphic Designers, Publishers, Desktop Publishing
Hi
Our organisation in Sydney Australia is planning a NEXTSTEP marketing push into the " Graphics / Publishing " vertical market.
We would appreciate any information on the following:
1) Reference sites in thes areas currently using NEXTSTEP and third party applications in this market
2) The type's of productivity gains being achieved at these sites and specifically the third party app bundles being used .
3) Information from suppliers of N/S Third Party apps whose products fit into this market.
and particularly those Third Party App developers who wish to gain exposure into this market in Australia
I understand that this could be a tall order, however any assistance we get is appreciated.
Please direct your replies to me : alan@softpac.com.au
Many thanks in advance.
Alan Goldberg
General Manager
Softpac
Tel : (61 - 2- 214 2692)
Fax: ( 61-2- 436-1336)
NeXTMAIL welcomed and Appreciated.
From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review (long)
Date: 20 Mar 1994 03:39:25 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mgghd$hps@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <2mcnrdINNflm@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!
This is phenomenal!!
Not since I first touched a NeXT have I seen anything that is as
absolutely cool and makes as much sense as Pages.
You don't want that graphic on the left? Want it to be in-line with
your text? No problem. Just drag it over. Now the damn thing's too
small, and you'll have to resize it to fit the column? No you don't.
It's been done for you. But that caption is underneath the graphic,
and you want it to hang on the left. Let's see... if this were
FrameMaker, I'd attach an anchored frame to the text, move it over to
the side, fill it with a text column, and then change the paragraph
style to caption.
In Pages: CLICK!
Wow
In the words of an unnamed minion at ID Software: "I was not prepared
for how cool this is."
---
Kenny Leung
System Administrator
University of Alberta Hospital Neurology
403-492-8648 Phone
403-480-3650 Pager (Preferred)
403-433-0427 Fax
-------------------------------------------------------
"It wouldn't be Windows without windows within windows"
P.S. I trust that this will not stay a NEXTSTEP-only product for
long.
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review (long)
Date: 20 Mar 1994 06:25:10 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2mgq86$pju@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <2mcnrdINNflm@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <2mgghd$hps@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
<stuff muched about Pages>
>Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!
>
>This is phenomenal!!
>
>In the words of an unnamed minion at ID Software: "I was not prepared
>for how cool this is."
It's cool all right, but doesn't import or copy/paste
accented characters. And I have hundreds of pages to
format in French and Italian.
(blood-curdling scream insert here).
:-( :-(
Robert de Lucca
dept of HISPANIC and ITALIAN studies
The Johns Hopkins University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: Now that there are some real NEXTSTEP wordprocessors...
Message-ID: <CMrpKo.I0@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab.
References: <2llc9f$6fr@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 17:21:59 GMT
In article <2llc9f$6fr@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes:
> ...inplace editing .... like OLE...only better.
Well the problem is that inplace editing is not the solution for every
problem. Anyway there were some rumors inside some apple docuements and
papers that NeXT is somehow checking out the OpenDoc stuff (somewhat
better than OLE in my opinion).
Although OpenDoc is not as flexible as a similar conzept under NeXTSTEP
could be it my lead to Documents that could be edited on any platform.
I think using ObjectLinks the way that doubleclicking a linked data will
open it inside the creation-app would be sufficent to me.
Tomi
--
____________________________________________________
(tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel
Neptunstr. 9
NeXTMail welcome 90522 Oberasbach
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: QUICK PAGES REVIEW
Date: 20 Mar 94 06:23:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.764144614@uiuc.edu>
References: <2mdcbq$jp5@network.ucsd.edu>
Thank you (!) for a review that answers some of the questions I had
(and I didn't even ask them!) I only wondered about two things:
alevine@ucsd.edu writes:
>The documentation alludes to Design Models purchasable from Pages or
>third party developers, but many of us are probably capable of writing our
>own. The existence of freely redistributable Design Models could only
>increase interest in Pages itself.
Is the lack of a Design Model editor problematic for making DMs for a
specific need (e.g., conforming to a particular University doctoral
dissertation format)? How flexible (in your opinion) would you say
these DMs are--that is, could I take a plain-paper DM (like I might
start with in Frame if none of the other Frame formats met with my
approval) and work on it enough to get it to the point where I could
pass it to grad students working on doctoral dissertations and say
that *this* Pages DM complies 100% with the doctoral dissertation
guidelines UIUC requires all such dissertations to use?
>3. COMPATIBILITY
>My only severe disappointment with this product falls under this heading.
I agree, this is really problematic. Perhaps if I had services from
someplace, I could use them like I currently use ImageViewer's service
to allow me to (for example) see PBM files in Edit RTFD documents?
>I hope this review proves useful. I'm faxing a copy of it to Pages
>Software; if I get any feedback, I'll pass it on to this group.
Please do, and thanks again.
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP 1.4: app icon to % dial not working
Date: 20 Mar 1994 07:19:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mgtd9$qsi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
References: <2mfqv2$m4l@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <2mfqv2$m4l@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> lachance@scheme.cs.ubc.ca (Daniel
LaChance) writes:
> When retrieving a file using GatorFTP 1.4 the application's icon in the
> dock, or elsewhere, is suppose to change to a percentage retrieved dial,
> (so if you hide the app you can still see how much of the file has been
> retrieved) but for me it doesn't do this, it only goes blank. Does anyone
> have an answer to correcting this?
mine started to do this after the upgrade to 3.2...don't know how to fix it,
though...
don...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gsl@netcom.com (Greg Lindholm)
Subject: Re: ImageViewer whitewash
Message-ID: <gslCMyF2t.2rp@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <9403181707.AA02749@PCS.CNU.EDU> <2mema2$erm@yucca.omnigroup.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 08:18:29 GMT
William Shipley (wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com) wrote:
[munch...]
: 4) Finally, there is something called "gamma correction" which I know very
: little about, but apparently can be used to correct the way colors are
: reconstructed when the image is unpacked. The McFilter service allows
: you to set this on the fly for JPEGs and GIFs.
The following is snipped from PhotoAlbum Help:
,Preferences
Gamma -- PhotoCD images are stored in a color space which is non-linear in
intensity, but is a better quantization for human perception. NeXTSTEP,
however, operates in an intensity-linear RGB colorspace. To display PhotoCD
images in the standard NeXTSTEP RGB colorspace, a "gamma" of 2.2 should be
applied to the data. (i.e. out = in^(1/2.2)). However, since this remapping
happens on 8bit pixel values, some image information is lost by this
transformation. A gamma value of 1.0 preserves all of the information in
the PhotoCD 8bit RGB encoding, but yields too washed-out an image for
display.
PhotoAlbum defaults to using a gamma of 1.8 which is a reasonable
compromise between information loss and image contrast.
--
Greg Lindholm
Glendale CA
gsl@netcom.com
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT answering machine software?
Date: 20 Mar 1994 13:57:27 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2mhko7$5l8@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have an 040 NeXT Station with a Zyxel 1496E modem. My answering machine
just bit the dust. I know on that on PCs and on the Mac there is software
to use the machine as an answering machine. Is there anything available
commercially or as freeware/shareware that would do the same on my machine?
Thank for any input.
--
Christian Smith
aka Blackplague
PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: garrison@ganglion (Sidney Garrison)
Subject: Purchasing Nextstep 3.2
Message-ID: <1994Mar16.194047.7547@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com
Organization: sps
Distribution: USA
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:40:47 GMT
Does anyone know of any place where Nextstep 3.2 can be purchased besides
from Next? For example, are there any software houses that offer 3.2 at a
discount?
Thanks, Mark
Please post, or send responses to:
P25231@email.mot.com
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP uninstall
Date: 20 Mar 1994 12:36:21 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU>
I am in need of UNinstalling NeXTSTEP temporarily. I've a CD-
ROM drive now, so reinstallation will be possible. I have reformatted
my drive to DOS, and all is well, BUT I cannot seem to locate where
exactly the NeXT boot0 loader is located. I would like to remove it.
Can someone tell me how to do this? I assume it is possible. I
thought I had (well, I did) erased all visible partitions. So where
is it? I need this info badly and soon. Any info appreciated. Thanks.
bp
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages and subscripts
Date: 20 Mar 1994 13:31:49 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403201929.AA02940@cantina.lanl.gov>
I'm getting the impression that I seem to be the only person who complains about how the NEXTSTEP wordprocessing packages that are coming out handle subscripts and superscripts. Aren't there any engineers or scientists using NeXTs any more? Or is it simply that all of us have become reconciled to using the (very nice) NeXTTeX package for any writing that verges on technical?
Don't even NON-technical people want to type "E = m c-cubed" now and then?
About a week or so ago the subject was WriteUp, and I posted something like "I'd like to type ``H_2O'' without my hands leaving the keyboard (like I just did, in TeXish)." Actually, AFS did listen a bit (I think), when they (re-)defined the command-key equivalents for subscript and superscript to be the same as those used in the Format/Font menu of Edit.app. Nonetheless, you can't type a sub and super in WriteUp without moving your hand to the mouse at least once. At least I haven't found a way.
The following has to do with Pages' treatment of this matter. First, a small story. There was a Pages representative here last fall to demo a beta-version of Pages to our Los Alamos NEXTSTEP User's Group. Bear in mind that she came to talk at a large institution that was once called the "Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory". A very nice demo it was, thank you, until someone asked her the very obvious question of how to input a subscript. It turned out that, at that time, Pages couldn't do that at all and
apparently _wasn't_even_planning_to_! The audience burst into hooting and howling and, I'm afraid, the Pages person wasn't very happy with the way we treated her.
But, she got the message and carried it home. Pages as released DOES allow you to input subs and supers. I have one disappointment, however:
1. I originally thought that your hands MUST leave the keyboard. From looking at the User Manual, the only way I could see to do a subscript is to select the it (after typing everything else in the expression out). Then you can go to the Format/Text submenu (there is no Format/Font submenu) and click on the Subscript or Superscript item. It works, you can do it.
2. Alternatively, after selecting, you can go back to the keyboard and use the command-key equivalents. Which are, I kid you not, <cmd-\> for superscript and <cmd-/> for subscript. Non-intuitive, I would say. And, EXACTLY OPPOSITE to the convention that is used by Edit.app for RTF files! This is an EGREGIOUS INFELICITY (to say it politely in Latin rather than Anglo-Saxon).
3. There is no Unscript in the Format/Text submenu, but maybe should be.
3. It isn't mentioned in the manual, but after playing around a bit I find that, yes, you CAN stay on the keyboard. The trick is in fact what was suggested by Lorin Rivers in response to my WriteUp posting on this matter: the <cmd-\> and <cmd-/> keys are toggles. Thus, the way to spell "water", in Pages, is "H<cmd-/>2<cmd-/>O". If you don't hit the second <cmd-/> after your subscript, you stay down there in subscribe mode, with no way to get out of it.
OK, I can live with that. Just would have been nice to have seen this in the manual. If it does ever come down to the point where I have to have a subscript on a subscript (or whatever), I guess it's back to Tex.
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages and subscripts
Date: 20 Mar 1994 13:36:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403201934.AA02957@cantina.lanl.gov>
I'm getting the impression that I seem to be the only person
who complains about how the NEXTSTEP wordprocessing packages
that are coming out handle subscripts and superscripts.
Aren't there any engineers or scientists using NeXTs any
more? Or is it simply that all of us have become reconciled
to using the (very nice) NeXTTeX package for any writing
that verges on technical?
Don't even NON-technical people want to type "E = m c-cubed"
now and then?
About a week or so ago the subject was WriteUp, and I posted
something like "I'd like to type ``H_2O'' without my hands
leaving the keyboard (like I just did, in TeXish)."
Actually, AFS did listen a bit (I think), when they
(re-)defined the command-key equivalents for subscript and
superscript to be the same as those used in the Format/Font
menu of Edit.app. Nonetheless, you can't type a sub and
super in WriteUp without moving your hand to the mouse at
least once. At least I haven't found a way.
The following has to do with Pages' treatment of this
matter. First, a small story. There was a Pages
representative here last fall to demo a beta-version of
Pages to our Los Alamos NEXTSTEP User's Group. Bear in mind
that she came to talk at a large institution that was once
called the "Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory". A very nice
demo it was, thank you, until someone asked her the very
obvious question of how to input a subscript. It turned
out that, at that time, Pages couldn't do that at all and
apparently _wasn't_even_planning_to_! The audience burst
into hooting and howling and, I'm afraid, the Pages person
wasn't very happy with the way we treated her.
But, she got the message and carried it home. Pages as
released DOES allow you to input subs and supers. I have
one disappointment, however:
1. I originally thought that your hands MUST leave the
keyboard. From looking at the User Manual, the only way I
could see to do a subscript is to select the it (after
typing everything else in the expression out). Then you
can go to the Format/Text submenu (there is no Format/Font
submenu) and click on the Subscript or Superscript item.
It works, you can do it.
2. Alternatively, after selecting, you can go back to the
keyboard and use the command-key equivalents. Which are,
I kid you not, <cmd-\> for superscript and <cmd-/> for
subscript. Non-intuitive, I would say. And, EXACTLY
OPPOSITE to the convention that is used by Edit.app for RTF
files! This is an EGREGIOUS INFELICITY (to say it politely
in Latin rather than Anglo-Saxon).
3. There is no Unscript in the Format/Text submenu, but
maybe should be.
3. It isn't mentioned in the manual, but after playing
around a bit I find that, yes, you CAN stay on the keyboard.
The trick is in fact what was suggested by Lorin Rivers in
response to my WriteUp posting on this matter: the <cmd-\>
and <cmd-/> keys are toggles. Thus, the way to spell
"water", in Pages, is "H<cmd-/>2<cmd-/>O". If you don't
hit the second <cmd-/> after your subscript, you stay down
there in subscribe mode, with no way to get out of it.
OK, I can live with that. Just would have been nice to have
seen this in the manual. If it does ever come down to the
point where I have to have a subscript on a subscript (or
whatever), I guess it's back to Tex.
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: mra@bink.mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: slip server
Date: 20 Mar 1994 20:00:51 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2mia1j$spr@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
anyone know where i could get a public domain (via ftp) slip server for
the next? email to mra@mit.edu. thanks!
From: mra@bink.mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: generic news reader?
Date: 20 Mar 1994 20:48:20 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2micqk$88@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Is there a news-reader out there that works within the shell-environment
(within the terminal.app)? This would be opposed to NewsGrazer, which
works in the workspace-environment.
I appreciate any information! thanks -- email to mra@mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP uninstall
Message-ID: <1994Mar20.192458.1196@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU>
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 19:24:58 GMT
In article <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU> bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake
Patterson) writes:
> I am in need of UNinstalling NeXTSTEP temporarily. I've a CD-
> ROM drive now, so reinstallation will be possible. I have reformatted
> my drive to DOS, and all is well, BUT I cannot seem to locate where
> exactly the NeXT boot0 loader is located. I would like to remove it.
> Can someone tell me how to do this? I assume it is possible. I
> thought I had (well, I did) erased all visible partitions. So where
> is it? I need this info badly and soon. Any info appreciated. Thanks.
fdisk /mbr
is the magic incantation that does it; it's DOS, so I don't pretend to
understand it :-).
paul
From: bull6375@utdallas.edu (Jonathan D Buller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 20 Mar 1994 22:56:44 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Message-ID: <2mikbc$531@news.utdallas.edu>
References: <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu> <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: bull6375
In article <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jsvrc@edison.rc.rit.edu (J A Stephen Viggiano) writes:
>In article <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes:
>>What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
>>somewhat competing products: Illustrator from Adobe and Freehand
>>(Virtuoso on NeXT) from Aldus (Altsys)?
>
>I hope like all heck it means they're going to keep Illustrator and
>sh*tcan that awful piece of dreck, Freehand.
Well, I'm kinda sorry to here you say that, since I wrote part of
FreeHand. You (and the Illustrator fans) have your opinion, and the
FreeHand fans (including the AP News wire) may have differing
opinions. I am no longer connected with any of the parties mentioned,
or have a copy of either product (except for my copy of Virtuoso/Sun,
but I don't have a Sun, so I haven't removed the shrink-wrap yet 8-)
The rumors I've heard are: 1) The no-compete clause was removed from
the Aldus/Altsys contract some time after Aldus Intellidraw came out.
Altsys still needed the FreeHand money, and Aldus didn't want to throw
away their number 2 product. 2) Someone at Altsys told me the clause
is still in the contract. (Extenuating factoid: I wasn't privy to the
contract, and wasn't paying much attention when all this was happening.
The someone at Altsys is also not privy to seeing the actual contract
as far as I know.) 3) Altsys was told of the merger about 12-24 hours
before the press release. 4) Nobody, including Brainerd, Warnok, and
Von Ehr have decided what to do.
Possibilities include: 1) Adobus gives FreeHand back to Altsys. 2)
Adobus buys FreeHand from Altsys. 3) Things stay the same, Adobus
sells both Illustrator and FreeHand. Other possible factoids: I think
Aldus owns the FreeHand trademark (hence Altsys Virtuoso, instead of
Altsys FreeHand, for NeXT and Sun) I don't THINK Von Ehr wants to sell
the company, but he MIGHT be worried that the loss of FreeHand support
from Aldus will slowly kill FreeHand and hence will sell.
Alternatively, he might want to get some of the marketing and support
people from Aldus (or they may get the axe in the merge) and try taking
the whole job on their own.
The bottom line is: at the moment, there are too many variables, and it's
WAY TOO EARLY to tell what's going on, let alone what's going to happen.
Jon Buller
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <7642080111799@dalek.mcs.anl.gov>
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Math and Computer Science, Argonne National Laboratory
References: <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <AOKI.94Mar14204508@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp> <jeffo.763773388@uiuc.edu> <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 00:00:11 GMT
In article <AOKI.94Mar16122540@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>,
Ken-ichiro Aoki <ken@phys.titech.ac.jp> wrote:
>of TeX nor do they type that many equations. Also, the learning
>curve seems to be steep for non-tech minded people. I have
>noticed that a lot of secretaries have a real problem with TeX
>while physicists usually pick it up very quickly.
I strongly agree with this. We have some LaTeX templates set up for
divisional memos, and it is a real pain -- if a secretary needs to
make some small change (add a phone number to the header say), I get
dragged over to help out. Not very time-effective. If we had a WP with
template support, methinks this would be a nonproblem.
--bob
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and subscripts
Date: 21 Mar 94 02:08:27 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.764215707@uiuc.edu>
References: <9403201934.AA02957@cantina.lanl.gov>
Dick Silbar writes:
>I'm getting the impression that I seem to be the only person
>who complains about how the NEXTSTEP wordprocessing packages
>that are coming out handle subscripts and superscripts.
Although I don't have much need for them, I would be highly
disappointed if they weren't in a product I paid so much for. Like
footnotes, underline and the ability to faithfully load and save
documents from leading formats, I expect super and subscripts to be
part of the word processing or DTP package I purchase. This
capability is a part of products on other platforms, I think NS
products should do it too.
>OK, I can live with that. Just would have been nice to have
>seen this in the manual. If it does ever come down to the
>point where I have to have a subscript on a subscript (or
>whatever), I guess it's back to Tex.
How easy will it be to switch between Pages and TeX when you need to
say something involving a combination of super and subscripts? It
seems like a real pain (to me) to switch just because you need to do
this. Since I don't recall reading that Pages would support loading
DVI files (nor do I recall reading that Pages loads anything
faithfully but it's own proprietary format), I'd probably end up using
TeX until something came along that could do what I needed. Being
able to write two subscripts (with the second being a subscript of the
first) sounds like a trivial extension of a good super and subscript
routine to me.
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cc -posix flag
Date: 21 Mar 1994 05:08:20 GMT
Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SHIVERS.94Mar21000822@sleepy.lcs.mit.edu>
In NS 3.2, cc takes a -posix flag. This flag appears nowhere in the
documentation for the compiler. It is described in the OS release notes--
about two sentences saying that it causes the compiler to compile
POSIX code, which is hopelessly vague.
I assume the -posix flag
- turns on ANSI C
- causes <...> include files to be searched in some particular directory
- sets some #define's
but there's no precise definition of what is going on.
In fact, with or without the -posix flag, I can't find out exactly which
default directories are being searched for <...> include files. This is
documented nowhere that I can find, which seems like a real documentation
problem. When compiles lose because of some type mismatch or structure
incompatibility in the systems code, you need to chase down exactly
what is being included and need to know how the #define's affect the
conditionally included code. NeXT doesn't help you out here.
Does anyone know exactly what directories the compiler searches
(and in which order), and how this is affected by -posix? And
what else -posix affects? I would sure appreciate it.
If I get answers, I'll summarise them to the net, so don't post; send me mail.
-Olin
From: ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 21 Mar 1994 06:39:36 GMT
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2mjff8$6ec@nkosi.well.com>
References: <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <CMv8Cx.4MH@dvorak.amd.com> <BYER.94Mar18103327@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes:
>Ron Pomeroy x(Coop) writes:
>>>> I hope like all heck it means they're going to keep Illustrator and
>>>> sh*tcan that awful piece of dreck, Freehand.
>>>> Sorry, no smileys for this one. --
>Ron> Let me re-iterate this...but in reverse! I hate Illustrator.
>Ron> No smilies and no apologies either.
><Speaking *completely* for myself, as if you didn't know...>
>Both products have their loyal following. Personally, being one of the "DPS
>fanatics", I hope they *both* stay around. Virtuoso is the best proof that
>a Display PostScript can be fast given good programmers that I've seen yet.
>(And I hear that the difference in speeds between the NeWS and upcoming DPS
>versions on Solaris will shock some people into believing... ;-)
>And Illustrator? Well, we've gotten some politics out of the way. Truth
>is, we've still got some more to work on. And if the NeXT community still
>wants it, they're going to have to show a demand for it. Our applications
>(*very* unfortunately) don't get originally developed on Unix, and so take
>more work than might make business sense.
>--
>Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
>Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
>1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
>Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's your first vote (demand) to get Illustrator (back) onto the
NEXTSTEP platform. With several gigabytes worth of Illustrator files
and dozens of vendors (design firms and pre-press houses) who
use Illustrator exclusively for all our projects, I am currently
forced into dealing with a mixed Mac/NEXTSTEP environment.
If Illustrator 5 ran on NS/FIP 3.2 I could complete the migration
to NS and lead a completely integrated life. I could also encourage
our many vendors to move to NEXTSTEP!
Please port Illustrator soon!
Michael
ludwig@well.sf.ca.us
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: generic news reader?
Date: 21 Mar 1994 00:18:57 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2mip5h$1e7@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2micqk$88@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
mra@bink.mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>Is there a news-reader out there that works within the shell-environment
>(within the terminal.app)? This would be opposed to NewsGrazer, which
>works in the workspace-environment.
>
>I appreciate any information! thanks -- email to mra@mit.edu
Ah somebody with taste... Right well trn3.4.1 works fine. I use it
daily.
Builds ok on 3.2 ditto for 3.1
--
"You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant)
"No, what?"
"Nothing" (Charade, 1963)
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: cc -posix flag
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 03:18:47 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <AhXJVbC00iV6M=A2oU@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <SHIVERS.94Mar21000822@sleepy.lcs.mit.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 21-Mar-94 cc -posix flag
by Olin Shivers@lcs.mit.edu
> In NS 3.2, cc takes a -posix flag. This flag appears nowhere in the
> documentation for the compiler. It is described in the OS release notes--
> about two sentences saying that it causes the compiler to compile
> POSIX code, which is hopelessly vague.
The -posix flag causes the compiler to set up its environment so that it
passes the POSIX 1003.1 compatibility test suite. There is a large
amount of documentation available as to exactly what that means in terms
of the programming interface...consult the appropriate RFC(s), which are
available via anonymous FTP to several sites, including nic.ddn.mil
(directory rfc), ftp.nisc.sri.com (rfc), nis.nsf.net (RFC),
nisc.jvnc.net (rfc), venera.isi.edu (in-notes), and wuarchive.wustl.edu
(info/rfc).
They can also be retrieved via electronic mail by sending email to one of:
mail-server@nisc.sri.com
Put "send rfcNNN" in message body
nis-info@nis.nsf.net
Put "send RFCnnn.TXT-1" in message body
sendrfc@jvnc.net
Put "RFCnnn" as Subject: line
> I assume the -posix flag
> - turns on ANSI C
> - causes <...> include files to be searched in some particular directory
> - sets some #define's
> but there's no precise definition of what is going on.
ANSI C is on by default, unless you set the -traditional flag, which
creates a pure K&R compilation environment. The following macros are
defined (this is from NS3.2, obviously):
-D__GNU__ -Dmc68000 -Dm68k -DNeXT -Dunix -DNX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0=300
-DNX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_1=310 -DNX_CURRENT_COMPILER_RELEASE=310
-D__mc68000__ -D__m68k__ -D__NeXT__ -D__unix__ -D__MACH__
-D__BIG_ENDIAN__ -D__ARCHITECTURE__=\"m68k\"
-D__NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0__=300 -D__NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_1__=310
-D__NX_CURRENT_COMPILER_RELEASE__=310 -D__mc68000 -D__m68k -D__NeXT
-D__unix -D__NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0=300 -D__NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_1=310
-D__NX_CURRENT_COMPILER_RELEASE=310 -D__STDC__ -D_POSIX_SOURCE
-D_NEXT_SOURCE
The only interesting one is the -D_POSIX_SOURCE, which has an effect
upon certain header files in order to bring them completely into POSIX
compliance. Note that NEXTSTEP specific apps will probably not compile
without modification with the -posix flag specified.
> In fact, with or without the -posix flag, I can't find out exactly which
> default directories are being searched for <...> include files. This is
> documented nowhere that I can find, which seems like a real documentation
> problem.
Read the Info file for gcc via emacs (or your favorite Info browser).
To quote in full:
[begin quote]
`LOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR'
Define this macro as a C string constant if you wish to override
the standard choice of `/usr/local/include' as the default prefix
to try when searching for local header files. `LOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR'
comes before `SYSTEM_INCLUDE_DIR' in the search order.
Cross compilers do not use this macro and do not search either
`/usr/local/include' or its replacement.
`SYSTEM_INCLUDE_DIR'
Define this macro as a C string constant if you wish to specify a
system-specific directory to search for header files before the
standard directory. `SYSTEM_INCLUDE_DIR' comes before
`STANDARD_INCLUDE_DIR' in the search order.
Cross compilers do not use this macro and do not search the
directory specified.
`STANDARD_INCLUDE_DIR'
Define this macro as a C string constant if you wish to override
the standard choice of `/usr/include' as the default prefix to try
when searching for header files.
Cross compilers do not use this macro and do not search either
`/usr/include' or its replacement.
`INCLUDE_DEFAULTS'
Define this macro if you wish to override the entire default
search path for include files. The default search path includes
`GCC_INCLUDE_DIR', `LOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR', `SYSTEM_INCLUDE_DIR',
`GPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR', and `STANDARD_INCLUDE_DIR'. In addition,
`GPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR' and `GCC_INCLUDE_DIR' are defined
automatically by `Makefile', and specify private search areas for
GCC. The directory `GPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR' is used only for C++
programs.
The definition should be an initializer for an array of structures.
Each array element should have two elements: the directory name (a
string constant) and a flag for C++-only directories. Mark the
end of the array with a null element.
[end quote]
Under NEXTSTEP, the include search path is:
/* Use new NeXT include file search path. Search /usr/local/include, but
not the G++ or GCC include directories. This is for the NeXT version
only because we don't expect to interoperate with fixincludes. The FSF
version would search these. */
#define INCLUDE_DEFAULTS \
{ \
{ "/NextDeveloper/Headers/g++", 1}, \
/* { GCC_INCLUDE_DIR, 0}, */ \
{ LOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR, 0}, \
{ "/NextDeveloper/Headers", 0}, \
{ "/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi", 0}, \
{ "/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd", 0}, \
{ "/LocalDeveloper/Headers", 0}, \
{ "/LocalDeveloper/Headers/ansi", 0}, \
{ "/LocalDeveloper/Headers/bsd", 0}, \
{ "/NextDeveloper/2.0CompatibleHeaders", 0}, \
{ 0, 0} \
}
LOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR is /usr/local/include.
> When compiles lose because of some type mismatch or structure
> incompatibility in the systems code, you need to chase down exactly
> what is being included and need to know how the #define's affect the
> conditionally included code. NeXT doesn't help you out here.
If you are compiling POSIX compliant code, then there should be
absolutely no problems (that's why the POSIX test suite exists).
> Does anyone know exactly what directories the compiler searches
> (and in which order), and how this is affected by -posix? And
> what else -posix affects? I would sure appreciate it.
See above for question #1. The -posix flag does not affect the include
search path. -posix also causes the linker to have the
/usr/lib/libposix.a library to be searched when linking code.
> If I get answers, I'll summarise them to the net, so don't post; send me
> mail.
No thanks. I prefer to answer the question directly to the net rather
than have a third party edit my comments.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Thomas Pfleiderer
Subject: Re: generic news reader?
Message-ID: <1994Mar21.075250.1183@balou.rhein.de>
Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de
Organization: private NeXT
References: <2micqk$88@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 07:52:50 GMT
Michael Raskin Andrews writes
>> Is there a news-reader out there that works within the
>> shell-environment
>> (within the terminal.app)? This would be opposed to NewsGrazer,
>> which works in the workspace-environment.
>>
>> I appreciate any information! thanks -- email to mra@mit.edu
Try to use tin. I think it is comfortable and nice to use. You should find
it on several ftp-sites.
tommi
---
Thomas Pfleiderer
tommi@balou.rhein.de
NeXT-Mail welcome.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Subject: Re: Pages and subscripts
Message-ID: <1994Mar21.092730.7842@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
References: <9403201929.AA02940@cantina.lanl.gov>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:27:30 GMT
Dick Silbar writes
>
> Don't even NON-technical people want to type "E = m c-cubed" now and
then? :-)
>
This would certainly only be written by a NON-technical person!
--
Moritz Willers
Institute for Theoretical Physics
Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and subscripts
Date: 21 Mar 1994 12:47:53 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2mk51p$ru9@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <9403201934.AA02957@cantina.lanl.gov> <jeffo.764215707@uiuc.edu>
>> How easy will it be to switch between Pages and TeX when you need to
>> say something involving a combination of super and subscripts?
I can't say for certain with Pages, but other text programs on the NeXT
work with TeXview's TeX EQ->.EPS service, which will typeset an equation
in TeX format right in the other word processor's document, leaving it
as an imbedded .eps image. I can't see why this wouldn't work with
Pages or WriteUp or PasteUp or any program that handles .eps files.
Of course, it helps to have postscript TeX fonts, so that it's readable
on the screen as displayed by display postscript.
mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dylan@Angst.COM (Dylan Kohler)
Subject: Re: NeXT answering machine software?
Message-ID: <1994Mar21.032113.20910@Angst.COM>
Sender: dylan@Angst.COM
Organization: Angst Animation Post Production
References: <2mhko7$5l8@portal.gmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 03:21:13 GMT
In article <2mhko7$5l8@portal.gmu.edu> csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu
(Christian Smith) writes:
> I have an 040 NeXT Station with a Zyxel 1496E modem. My answering
> machine just bit the dust. I know on that on PCs and on the Mac there
> is software to use the machine as an answering machine. Is there
> anything available commercially or as freeware/shareware that would do
> the same on my machine?
>
Check out Patrick (Jolly) Stein's 'am' on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
I think it is in /pub/next/Comm. I haven't looked at it myself, but it is
supposed to now have a NEXTSTEP user interface.
--
___________________________________
Dylan Kohler
Angst Animation Post Production
dylan@angst.com (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Message-ID: <Cn0ot2.GxD@eunet.ch>
Keywords: Wordprocessor
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
References: <jeffo.763880247@uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 13:43:49 GMT
In article <jeffo.763880247@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Alexander Lamb writes:
>
> >Pages relies heavilly on the "Design Models". The basic product comes
with
> >4 design models that are certainly sufficient for over 50% of the
users.
> >The other 50% will find that the Design Models included cover 80% of
there
> >needs (figures here are my speculations only).
>
> How flexible are these "Design Models"? In Frame, I can have any
> document I can create using the features of the program. I'm not
> accustomed to being limited to writing a particular document style
> because of the constraints of formats I didn't create.
>
Well, relatively flexible, although nothing in comparison with what you
would do in Frame (as long as you spend the time and are a power user of
Frame). What I understood is that it's really up to the designer or the
Design Models to allow or not any given flexibility. Don't forget also,
that Pages is not (at least in this first version) aimed at the same
market as Frame. My understanding is that Pages is more for "corporate
documents" creation than for technically oriented people who master Frame
without any problem. On the other hand, I will gladly use Pages for
writing all my technical memos, reports, etc... using Diagram2 or Equation
Builder whenever I need to import some specialized postscript.
What I can add is that having been myself edp manager in a small bank here
in Geneva, I had to spend a lot of time setting up formats and layouts for
in-house documents as well as marketing borchures, etc... Even when I had
done with a given format, I had some secretaries spending hours changing
fonts layouts, and distorting what the original format intended to show.
If I had Pages at that time, I could have constrained the various
documents to a given look and productivity would have increased. The
drawback of all this of course is (again) either find the design models
that do the job, or design your own.
> >The other Models needed will either have to be purchases or developped.
>
> How much is this Design Model developing kit?
>
I haven't heard any RECENT announce about this but some months ago it was
around 1000.- $ (I think). Now, before pages gets flamed for this :
1. Wait for an official price quote from Pages.
2. This may seem a lot for individuals but then I would rely on the
existing Design Models.
3. For corporate users it is EXTREEMELY cheap considering what it saves in
user training and document production productivity.
For existing design models, what I understand up to now is that they will
cost anywhere (depending on choice) between 50$ and 250$. (Pages is
bundled with 4 that allow already quite a great flexibility, and in the
special 90 days offer, another one of your choice comes free when
available).
> >More soon (I hope),
>
> I hope so too, thanks for posting about it. So far, reviews have been
> non-existant (probably due to the lack of a demo on the net).
> --
> *NO* NeXTmail please
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 21 Mar 1994 14:24:21 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: usa
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References: <2mjff8$6ec@nkosi.well.com>
In article <2mjff8$6ec@nkosi.well.com> ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik)
writes:
> Here's your first vote (demand) to get Illustrator (back) onto the
> NEXTSTEP platform. With several gigabytes worth of Illustrator files
> and dozens of vendors (design firms and pre-press houses) who
> use Illustrator exclusively for all our projects, I am currently
> forced into dealing with a mixed Mac/NEXTSTEP environment.
>
> If Illustrator 5 ran on NS/FIP 3.2 I could complete the migration
> to NS and lead a completely integrated life. I could also encourage
> our many vendors to move to NEXTSTEP!
>
> Please port Illustrator soon!
>
If Illustrator (V) ran under NeXTSTEP it too, probably wouldn't be able to open
Version 3 files of it's own files, like I believe neither the Mac or the PC
can.
;-)
Dave
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Subject: Re: generic news reader?
Message-ID: <1994Mar21.060139.13811@cc.usu.edu>
From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham)
Date: 21 Mar 94 06:01:38 MDT
References: <2micqk$88@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> <2mip5h$1e7@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
In article <2mip5h$1e7@steffi.demon.co.uk>,
Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>mra@bink.mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>>Is there a news-reader out there that works within the shell-environment
>>(within the terminal.app)?
>
>Ah somebody with taste... Right well trn3.4.1 works fine. I use it
>daily.
>
I'd second that. I had to hack at Pnews a little, but it works great now.
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From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP uninstall
Message-ID: <CMzEw5.CC7@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU>
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:12:04 GMT
In article <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU> bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) writes:
> I am in need of UNinstalling NeXTSTEP temporarily. I've a CD-
>ROM drive now, so reinstallation will be possible. I have reformatted
>my drive to DOS, and all is well, BUT I cannot seem to locate where
>exactly the NeXT boot0 loader is located. I would like to remove it.
>Can someone tell me how to do this? I assume it is possible. I
[munch]
You should try the (undocumented) option on fdisk:
fdisk /mbr
This should get rid of the NeXT boot stuff.
david
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From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Subject: frame again
Message-ID: <1994Mar21.154359.72803@yuma>
Date: 21 Mar 94 15:43:59 GMT
about a month ago there were quite a few posts about frame, including at least
one rumor that frame 4 would indeed be ported to nextstep. this rumor also
appeared in nextworld.
now that some time has passed, is there any new info?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <1994Mar21.145157.1256@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <jeffo.763683498@uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 14:51:57 GMT
I have been informed by several reliable sources that this article may
not have made it outside the building last week. For anyone who got it
the first time, sorry in advance for reposting.
Anyway, I had resolved to have a thick skin and just observe (and that
has some fascinations of its own, rather like an out-of-body experience),
but I can't stand idly by and allow factual inaccuracies to persist.
In article <jeffo.763683498@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> I think it's ridiculous for other folks to decide what
> features are aesthetically pleasing for me. As ugly as a double
> underline, smallcaps, shadow or outline may look to some, MS Word/Mac
> (and I think Word Perfect/Mac) documents will not be able to be
> converted accurately without being able to do these things. All in
> all, I think it's for me and my readers to decide what's most legible
> and what isn't.
>
> With all the smilies in the past posts on WU's missing typographic
> features, I lost track of what people were actually saying versus what
> they were joking about.
Scott Byer, a friend at Adobe who has helped us, speculated amidst many
smilies that WriteUp doesn't do underlining because typographically it
is a relic of the past. I am a strong advocate for good typography, and
Scott knows that. I believe the on-paper appearance of WriteUp documents
exceeds any other tool on NEXTSTEP, because I (and Glenn Reid before me)
placed a high premium on that task. But that does not make me an asthetic
purist, as someone else wrote. I have nothing against underlining and
small caps and all the other font transformations. They all have their
place, as many have pointed out.
The plain and simple truth is that the original design of PasteUp, from
which WriteUp is derived, was not well-suited to font attributes other
than those which are part of the fonts themselves, such as boldface and
italic. We made a decision to defer support for the entire range of
extended font attributes until we could do the job properly, at which
time we will support them all at once. It is a high priority task.
Some people will not want to buy WriteUp until such support is included.
I accept that. It was one of many trade-offs we had to make in order to
ship a reasonable 1.0 product on a reasonable time-line into a market
that was screaming for a product. As I wrote previously, there are many
features I wish we could have squeezed into WriteUp 1.0. But rather than
fall into the feature-itis trap, we decided to ship a product. Isn't that
what y'all really wanted? I remember reading it right here... 8^)
> After reading these reviews, I'm suprised so many problems got past
> either the beta-testing group or the AFS programmers before public
> release. Undo not working? No underline? Turning a document into
> all-Greek characters past the point where a few Greek characters were
> inserted? Improperly converting a one-page WriteNow file into a
> 58-page file?
J.B., you were not part of the beta test group, nor do you own a copy of
the shipping product, so I would appreciate as a matter of professional
courtesy that you not repeat others' speculations unless you have direct
knowledge of the errors.
For the record, undo and undelete work fine. Underlining was not stated
as a feature on the press release that announced product shipment. The
font transition problem was a user error. And the WriteNow problem you
reference was due to the fact that different RTF writers make different
assumptions about how to implement the \sl line spacing directive. We
have modified our RTF reader to accommodate this anomaly in the
applications that _created_ those files.
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From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: Re: : Pages review (long)
Message-ID: <Cn0xuz.AF4@athena.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
References: <2mgq86$pju@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:59:22 GMT
In article <2mgq86$pju@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea
Brooks) writes:
> <stuff muched about Pages>
> >Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!
> >
> >This is phenomenal!!
> It's cool all right, but doesn't import or copy/paste
> accented characters. And I have hundreds of pages to
> format in French and Italian.
>
> (blood-curdling scream insert here).
I'll second that scream! I cannot believe how little support there is for
non-standard-english characters. Let's pray for a second release that fixes
that.
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| Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca |
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: generic news reader?
Date: 21 Mar 1994 17:02:25 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2mkjv1$3tn@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2micqk$88@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> <2mip5h$1e7@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Mar21.060139.13811@cc.usu.edu>
deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <2mip5h$1e7@steffi.demon.co.uk>,
>Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>mra@bink.mit.edu (Michael Raskin Andrews) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>>>Is there a news-reader out there that works within the shell-environment
>>>(within the terminal.app)?
>>
>>Ah somebody with taste... Right well trn3.4.1 works fine. I use it
>>daily.
>>
>
>I'd second that. I had to hack at Pnews a little, but it works great now.
What did you hack Pnews? I didn't have to hack anything. Except
providing elm alias support thru the CC header but that's about it.
No other changes were necessary.
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From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 21 Mar 1994 17:33:41 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2mklplINNgle@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <Cn0ot2.GxD@eunet.ch>
For those who have a demo copy of Pages:
1) Do you *have* to use the Design Models to write a document?
That is, can I just define a group of styles as in
MS-Word and apply them to various elements in my document?
2) Can you modify the rules in a Design Model to customize it
to your needs?
Thank you for sharing the information with us.
--
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2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069
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Subject: Re: PGP for NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Mar21.095218.13818@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 21 Mar 94 09:52:17 MDT
References: <2mcv1u$gn5@galaxy.ucr.edu>
In article <2mcv1u$gn5@galaxy.ucr.edu> writes:
> First of all, for some reason, NXPGP doesn't work (ie wont sign,
> encrypt, etc.) unless I have the PGP and .pgp files in my home
> directory. If I have it in another directory in my home directory,
> even if I have the setting right, it wouldn't work.
The NXPGP source code checks the *defaults*
database for the path to the .pgp file, rather
than the environment variable. If nothing has
been set for the PGPPATH variable, then the code
finds the home directory, and cats a .pgp filename
to it to get what it considers a good guess at
the default. If you want to use a directory other
than your home directory, use this command:
dwrite NXPGP PGPPATH /whereever
Hope this helps.
Howard
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From: me@vigor.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PS->EPS?
Date: 21 Mar 1994 19:51:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mktsi$gj3@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Is there a filter to convert Poscript to EPS (in other words,
create a bitmapped preview from the contents)? Any clues
appreciated. Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: kent@cs.mcgill.ca (Kent TSE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q]: Supra Fax Modem with NEXTSTEP 3.0
Date: 21 Mar 1994 19:42:42 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mktbi$2sv@homer.cs.mcgill.ca>
Hello,
I have a Supra Fax Modem which I want to use on my NeXT running 3.0.
I have it defined using the PrintManager and it does seem to dial and
pick up incoming faxes, but when I try send a fax, the fax machine
gets an empty page and the job is still queued up. Similarly, when I
fax to the machine, it picks up and then hangs up. Does anyone have a
Supra Fax Modem hooked to their NeXTstation? Thanks.
- Kent
From: lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: XView Libraries for Next
Date: 21 Mar 1994 20:54:21 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ml1ht$q2i@news.tamu.edu>
I have been experimenting with Co-Xist for the Next black. I have an X app that
requires XView libraries libxview.a, libolgx.a and libX11.a but I cannot
find them in the Co-Xist distribution.
Are these standard libraries? Can they be ported from somewhere? Do they exist
in one of the other XWindows packages for the NExT?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly
Message-ID: <743MBO6K@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <CMw97q.8vw@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 21:05:23 GMT
David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: I have two NeXTStations networked and I would like tho know if
: there is software/hardware out there to operate one or more slabs
: headless - without monitor or keyboard.
: I figure that the biggest problem is turning the machine on. I figure
: it will probably boot off of the net if I set it up as a diskless
: client. Then I could either remotely login or "tip" over via the serial
: ports.
: Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions or
: help will be much appreciated.
Get a Soundbox! Then you can turn on the computer by plugging in
a keyboard in the Soundbox.
Meinrad
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PS->EPS?
Date: 21 Mar 1994 22:07:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ml5qj$gcs@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2mktsi$gj3@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2mktsi$gj3@netnews.upenn.edu> me@vigor.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) writes:
>Is there a filter to convert Poscript to EPS (in other words,
>create a bitmapped preview from the contents)? Any clues
>appreciated. Thanks.
Minor Gripe:
Although I know what you mean, please do not make it sound like
all EPS files need a preview section. The EPS situation is bad
enough already, we don't need any misunderstanding as to
what EPS files are. An EPS file without preview is a perfectly
good EPS.
As to a clue, Ghostscript and GhostView on DOS/Win can add
a bitmapped preview section to an EPS file, and this works probably
on other platforms too.
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From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1994Mar21.114109.13831@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 21 Mar 94 11:41:09 MDT
References: <2mjff8$6ec@nkosi.well.com> <2mkaml$qag@inxs.concert.net>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Utah State University
In article <2mkaml$qag@inxs.concert.net>, info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes:
> In article <2mjff8$6ec@nkosi.well.com> ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik)
> writes:
>
>> Here's your first vote (demand) to get Illustrator (back) onto the
>> NEXTSTEP platform. With several gigabytes worth of Illustrator files
>> and dozens of vendors (design firms and pre-press houses) who
>> use Illustrator exclusively for all our projects, I am currently
>> forced into dealing with a mixed Mac/NEXTSTEP environment.
>>
>> If Illustrator 5 ran on NS/FIP 3.2 I could complete the migration
>> to NS and lead a completely integrated life. I could also encourage
>> our many vendors to move to NEXTSTEP!
>>
>> Please port Illustrator soon!
>>
> If Illustrator (V) ran under NeXTSTEP it too, probably wouldn't be able to open
> Version 3 files of it's own files, like I believe neither the Mac or the PC
> can.
Why not just use Virtuoso. It will allow you to open Illustrator v3 files and
play around with them just like they were a native Virtuoso document. You
could then save it out as a Virtuoso document, or save it out as an Illustrator
v3 file. We do this quite often, and haven't had any problems. It also works
fine with Freehand files (of course).
======================================================================
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Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
[Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously."
======================================================================
From: ccwf@ludwig.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PS->EPS?
Date: 22 Mar 1994 01:30:06 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2mlhmu$62h@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2mktsi$gj3@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2mktsi$gj3@netnews.upenn.edu>,
Joe Panico <joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu> wrote:
>Is there a filter to convert Poscript to EPS (in other words,
>create a bitmapped preview from the contents)?
What you mean is PS->EPSF.
-ccwf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rodrigc@ecf.toronto.edu (Craig Rodrigues)
Subject: Is the spreadsheet Mesa any good?
Message-ID: <Cn1nAo.7u@ecf.toronto.edu>
Sender: news@ecf.toronto.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 02:08:48 GMT
I have received information that a spreadsheet called Mesa is
being ported to an operating system that I use (not NextStep).
The company which makes this spreadsheet, Athena, claims that
this spreadsheet is the number 1 selling Next spreadsheet.
Since I have no experience with Next, I can't confirm this.
Can anyone tell me if the claims that this company makes are true, and
if Mesa if a good spreadsheet?
Thanks.
--
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Chemical Engineering, 1996 | Don't drink and derive.
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From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Talk program
Date: 22 Mar 1994 03:46:59 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mlpnj$5ie@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
Has anyone out there used talk on the NeXT.
I've been trying to use talk on my NeXT machine which is connected to the
net via SLIP and a 9600 baud modem but I can't seem to get it to work. I
have been able to receive something like this from someone else
talk: connection requested by someone@somewhere.
talk: respond with: talk someone@somewhere
I have tried to respond back or even initiate talk by
talk someone@somewhere
but all I get is
talk: ceramics: Can't figure out network address.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
--
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From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and subscripts
Date: 22 Mar 1994 04:02:11 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mlqk3$8me@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2mk51p$ru9@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Mark Adler writes
[]
[]>> How easy will it be to switch between Pages and TeX when you need to
[]>> say something involving a combination of super and subscripts?
[]
[]I can't say for certain with Pages, but other text programs on the NeXT
[]work with TeXview's TeX EQ->.EPS service, which will typeset an equation
[]in TeX format right in the other word processor's document, leaving it
[]as an imbedded .eps image. I can't see why this wouldn't work with
[]Pages or WriteUp or PasteUp or any program that handles .eps files.
[]
[]Of course, it helps to have postscript TeX fonts, so that it's readable
[]on the screen as displayed by display postscript.
[]
Actually, the PS TeX fonts are not needed for this, because I had Rokicki
make a special "mode" for the NeXT screen with just this in mind. The
problem is that the relevant mode is 72 dpi and then if you print it looks
like..... thus, you have to have two copies of everything, one at screen
res, one at print res... OH! and don't zoom or anything, since that will
look awful.... OH! and don't forget that computer modern is normally used
at 10 pt, which is too small for most documents, and at 12pt it's too wide,
so you really want to rescale the graphic, and on and on. All in all the
TeX -> EPS feature is really useful (which is why I hounded Rokicki night
and day to do it) but to get any real production level stuff out of it you
need PS TeX fonts. Otherwise you might just as well go to EqBuilder,
itself another wonderful little solution..... OH! and if you have PS TeX
fonts you can use them in EqBuilder as well (I often switch to EqB for
really complicated equations or tables, but use CMR fonts or LucidaBright
so it matches the rest of my TeX document).
TLM
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From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FOLLOWUP: PAGES REVIEW
Date: 22 Mar 1994 04:14:23 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mlrav$qk0@network.ucsd.edu>
Bruce Webster (bwebster@pages.com) was kind enough to mail me a reply to
the "QUICK PAGES REVIEW" I posted at the end of last week. I'm posting it
below, without alteration or comment. Thanks, Bruce!
From: "Bruce F. Webster" <ucsd!pages.com!bwebster>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 15:21:02 -0800
To: alevine@ucsd.edu
Subject: Pages review
Cc: S&M@uunet.UU.NET, SQA@uunet.UU.NET, seniorstaff@uunet.UU.NET
Reply-To: ucsd!pages.com!bwebster
Alex:
many thanks for posting that review of Pages to the 'net. You've raised a
few questions; here are a few answers. Feel free to post these to the net
also. (I'd do it myself, but news posting has been down ever since our
server crashed some weeks back.)
1) THE PACKAGE AND ITS INSTALLATION
We do have plans for a more selective installation utility, based on
customer feedback. However, we choose to go with a simple and
straightforward installation on the initial release to minimize the
potential problems; the last thing we want is for a customer to have to
call us before the app is even installed. :-) Anything fancier will have
to go through rigorous testing to make sure it is (a) failsafe and (b)
easy to use and understand.
2) THE USER INTERFACE
I agree with you on the need for more keyboard equivalents; I happen to be
a high-speed touch typist. However, because of our need to lock down our
documentation without locking up our extensible architecture (which can
add or remove design element classes dynamically), we chose to minimize
keyboard and menu equivalents on the first release of Pages. We want to
develop a consistent, predictable strategy for assigning keyboard
equivalents for a dynamically configured set of design elements; after
all, not all design models will necessarily support footnotes.
3) COMPATIBILITY
We actually had more intelligent import filters working prior to ship, but
we did not want to hold up the Pages release date to put those filters
through a thorough alpha/beta test sequence. In addition, we are using
feedback from our customers to prioritize both the file formats to support
and the formatting to preserve and plan several phased releases.
4) STABILITY
Our SQA department was able to reproduce your bug in our 1.0 release;
however, it appears to be fixed in the subsequent 1.0.1 bug-fix release
which you will get automatically by week's end. (The same is true of
anyone who purchased the 1.0 release.)
5) DOCUMENTATION
I appreciate that you don't write many memos (for that matter, neither do
I, at least not outside of e-mail), but most of the users in our large
customer accounts do; hence the documentation focus. Note that Pages does
come with 15-20 templates, which show up using the "New from Template..."
command. Even so, I do think that someone needs to do a "Pages tips and
hints" document.
6) WILL I BUY PAGES?
I hope so. :-) In the meantime, I've written (using Pages) a white paper
on the technology of Pages. If you have a NeXTmail address, I'll send it
to you as a PostScript file. Thanks for the feedback; keep in touch.
.bruce..
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Bruce F. Webster | Eventually, people realized that the
Information
Pages Software Inc | Superhighway was essentially CB radio, but
with
bwebster@pages.com | more typing.
#import <pages/disclaimer.h>| -- Dave Barry, "The 90's", Newsweek
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--
Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions
expressed by anyone at any time.
From: tspencer@kiwi.mccaw.com (Tim Spencer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Date: 21 Mar 94 18:46:52
Organization: /Net/kiwi/Users/tspencer/.organization
Message-ID: <TSPENCER.94Mar21184652@kiwi.mccaw.com>
References: <CMw97q.8vw@ucdavis.edu> <743MBO6K@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
In-reply-to: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de's message of Mon, 21 Mar 1994 21:05:23 GMT
In article <743MBO6K@gwdu03.gwdg.de> mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) writes:
David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: I have two NeXTStations networked and I would like tho know if
: there is software/hardware out there to operate one or more slabs
: headless - without monitor or keyboard.
: I figure that the biggest problem is turning the machine on. I figure
: it will probably boot off of the net if I set it up as a diskless
: client. Then I could either remotely login or "tip" over via the serial
: ports.
: Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions or
: help will be much appreciated.
Get a Soundbox! Then you can turn on the computer by plugging in
a keyboard in the Soundbox.
If you have an ADB turbo box... Or actually, I think that
there are some non ADB boxes that have this ROM feature... Anyways,
if you have the right ROM version, you can specify in the Preferences
app for the machine to turn on right after powerfail. Then, if you
specify in the ROM monitor for the console to be on serial port A, and
disable the loginwindow in /etc/ttys, the machine will boot up as soon
as it gets power, and all console i/o will go out serial port A.
We have several here in our room for NXHosting the few
remaining black only apps that we need. It's been a while since I set
one up like that, so the details above may be a bit vague, but the
intent is correct at least.
Hope you can use this info! Have fun!!
--
Tim Spencer: McCaw NeXT Technical Analyst tim.spencer@mccaw.com
(206)915-5988 :-) NeXTMail welcome!!
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTWorld is Gone! -- refunds?
Date: 22 Mar 1994 05:19:43 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mlv5f$h38@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Pine.3.05.9403212225.F10498-b100000@cais.com>
In article <Pine.3.05.9403212225.F10498-b100000@cais.com> bjones@cais.com
(Peripheral Solutions) writes:
> I guess most of you have heard the news that Integrated Media has
> immediately suspended publication of NeXTWorld magazine, effective
> Monday March 21st.
What about those of us like me who paid $30 and got one issue? How do we
get some of our money back out of Integrated Media?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FAT Hacker Dict. Found
Message-ID: <1994Mar21.200938.13875@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 21 Mar 94 20:09:38 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
A FAT version of the Hackers Dictionary can be found at:
hasc.ca:/pub/Dictionaries/
Thanks to darcy@wsc.com for pointing out its location to me.
John Zollinger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: norm@enel.ucalgary.ca (Norm Bartley)
Subject: NSI 3.2 boot floppy
Message-ID: <Mar15.203508.45841@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 20:35:08 GMT
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Greetings all,
Having seen and used BootFloppy2.1 and Bootfloppy3.0 for
black hardware, is there an equivalent floppy boot procedure for
Intel machines, say if you wish to fsck a damaged hard drive or if
you wish to build up a minimal notebook system (in each case without
a SCSI controller and CD ROM)? Is this a ridiculous suggestion without
a 2.88MB floppy drive? A multi-volume 1.44MB boot floppy perhaps?
Anxious, but not to spend any more money,
Norm Bartley.
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: QUICK PAGES REVIEW
Date: 20 Mar 1994 09:53:09 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mh6e5$mgn@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <jeffo.764144614@uiuc.edu>
In article <jeffo.764144614@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
{double-quoted stuff deleted}
> Is the lack of a Design Model editor problematic for making DMs for a
> specific need (e.g., conforming to a particular University doctoral
> dissertation format)? How flexible (in your opinion) would you say
> these DMs are--that is, could I take a plain-paper DM (like I might
> start with in Frame if none of the other Frame formats met with my
> approval) and work on it enough to get it to the point where I could
> pass it to grad students working on doctoral dissertations and say
> that *this* Pages DM complies 100% with the doctoral dissertation
> guidelines UIUC requires all such dissertations to use?
>
Having a dissertation and guidelines of my own, this was a natural idea.
Unfortunately, Pages doesn't really make it too easy. There IS no "plain
paper" DM; all DM's come with circumscribed parameters. That said,
however, I believe there is enough flexibility in one of the provided
Design Models (Victory) to conform to the guidelines of ANY university.
Stylesheets based on any DM can be saved and reused. The real problem
comes in if you've already got part of your dissertation written in
another format!
> >3. COMPATIBILITY
> >My only severe disappointment with this product falls under this
heading.
>
> I agree, this is really problematic. Perhaps if I had services from
> someplace, I could use them like I currently use ImageViewer's service
> to allow me to (for example) see PBM files in Edit RTFD documents?
>
I really doubt it. Pages can't accept rtf pasteboards as rtf; it converts
them to plain text. If it could, the problem would be solved, since
NextStep itself provides the rtf service.
--
Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions
expressed by anyone at any time.
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and subscripts
Date: 22 Mar 94 06:46:37 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.764318797@uiuc.edu>
References: <9403201934.AA02957@cantina.lanl.gov> <jeffo.764215707@uiuc.edu> <2mk51p$ru9@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
>I can't say for certain with Pages, but other text programs on the NeXT
>work with TeXview's TeX EQ->.EPS service, which will typeset an equation
>in TeX format right in the other word processor's document, leaving it
>as an imbedded .eps image. I can't see why this wouldn't work with
>Pages or WriteUp or PasteUp or any program that handles .eps files.
I think it should work wonderfully, as long as whatever is in the EPS
figure is something that's 100% correct when you import it into some
other product. In most editors I've worked with, included EPS
material is not directly editable. Just as you say, this would be an
imbedded *image*. I expect Pages to be able to edit combinations of
super and subscripts as if they were typed into the product from
scratch (and have them obey the rules I've laid down for the format,
paragraph styles, character styles and so forth).
[As an aside: I know I could use Tailor to edit the EPS figure but I
think that's not taking into account what Pages should and should not
be able to do natively. If I were importing a diagram, soundfile,
videoclip or picture, I'd say differently, but this is textual data
that I expect other competitive apps to be able to edit also, so I put
the same requirement to Pages.]
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: zsh
Date: 22 Mar 1994 07:21:19 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Message-ID: <2mm69f$dgf@news.iastate.edu>
References: <9403110220.AA08820@igor.music.qc.edu> <CEDMAN.94Mar11144851@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Mar11144851@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote:
>You are also running a very old version (as can be seen from the
>explicit sed expressions which I put in there a long time ago which
>were moved to separate files almost as long ago). Zsh2.4pl300 was put
>out Mar 9 on ftp.sterling.com:pub/next and auto-configures and makes on
>systems running NS 3.2 (and almost certainly systems running 3.1).
>Strangely enough manually adding the -O2 option (which is not
>necessary to create a working executable) shaves a 100 kBytes off the
>executable.
zsh2.4pl309 doesn't compile on NS3.2/FIP. If only I can downgrade zsh
to patch level 300 so that I can try zsh. The following is the error
message during compilation:
[a lot of sed stuff...]
cc -Wall -Wno-implicit -Waggregate-return -Winline -pipe -O2 -c
builtin.c
cc -Wall -Wno-implicit -Waggregate-return -Winline -pipe -O2 -c
cond.c
cc -Wall -Wno-implicit -Waggregate-return -Winline -pipe -O2 -c
exec.c
cc -Wall -Wno-implicit -Waggregate-return -Winline -pipe -O2 -c
glob.c
cc -Wall -Wno-implicit -Waggregate-return -Winline -pipe -O2 -c
hist.c
cc -Wall -Wno-implicit -Waggregate-return -Winline -pipe -O2 -c
init.c
init.c: In function `setmoreflags':
init.c:289: too few arguments to function `getpgrp'
init.c:294: too few arguments to function `getpgrp'
init.c:298: too few arguments to function `getpgrp'
*** Exit 1
Stop.
Please help...
Chris
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 22 Mar 94 08:41:21 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.764325681@uiuc.edu>
References: <jeffo.763683498@uiuc.edu> <1994Mar21.145157.1256@afs.com>
Good to see an official response from AFS. If I assume that you're
working on bugfixes and the next version, is there any time when we
might see a release? Any word on including footnotes & endnotes or
tables? Any word on the Igor services?
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
Subject: Re: Need for Info - NeXTWorld is Gone!
Message-ID: <Cn274K.3I3@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
References: <Pine.3.05.9403212225.F10498-b100000@cais.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:17:07 GMT
In article <Pine.3.05.9403212225.F10498-b100000@cais.com> bjones@cais.com (Peripheral Solutions) writes:
>I guess most of you have heard the news that Integrated Media has
>immediately suspended publication of NeXTWorld magazine, effective Monday
>March 21st. Even though the staff may have been somewhat biased at times
>with their opinions, it still was a very good source of what was going on
>in our somewhat constricted environment. Hopefully this was merely a
>business decision (i.e not enough subscribers), versus a sign of
>things to come.
I don't think it's a sign of things to come...I think it's a long over-due
measure...NeXTWORLD was lame. It tried too hard to sanitize NEXTSTEP and
make it the OS for everyone. NEXTSTEP isn't a Mac. It doesn't need some
rinky-dink publication like MacWorld. I, for one, won't miss it. I think
NeXT probably just got tired of funding them and pulled the plug...That's
my guess as to their demise...
>Browsing the net each day is surely a very good substitute for information
>that we will be missing from NeXTWorld. In some cases the information on
>the net was a lot more reliable. However, a centralized repository is
>always nice and something you can turn back on when the need arises.
The info on the net is much more reliable...and not two months late...
>With the demise of NeXTWorld magazine it would be nice to see at least
>some flow of information throughout the NeXT community, whether it be a
>simple newsletter-type format as opposed to the high color glossy
>NeXTWorld. Distribution to our mail accounts would be fine or for those
>without, floppy will do. We don't need the glitz, just give us the information
>that we need. Don't glorify an Intel box just because it carries a major
>label - if NeXTSTEP doesn't install smoothly or run nicely I want to know!
>We have plenty of user groups around the U.S and abroad that could easily
>pass us information they have gathered during their meetings or have heard
>through the grapevine. We are a small group, we should help each other.
I agree completely and would like to help organize and administer such a
newsletter. If anyone wants to help, email me and I'll send you some of my
brainstorms. I think a simple 8.5"x11" newsletter, send via email preferably,
but with printed distribution as well, would be ample. Something spartan
and to-the-point...No glitz...No full page ads...Something that could be
altered at a moment's notice if need be...
>Does anyone agree with me and see this need? Let me know, good or bad how
>you feel about doing something like this. I am not necessarily looking
>for volunteers, but want to know what people out there think. Send me
>mail if you like.
I had thought about this before. Something along the lines of a PC Letter
or Computer Letter for NEXTSTEP. I'm willing to work at it...Anyone?
>Thanks
>
>-Bob Jones
-Rob Wyatt
rawyatt@csn.org (TEXT ONLY!!!)
rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: zsh
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <Cn27p7.n9H@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:29:31 GMT
References: <9403110220.AA08820@igor.music.qc.edu> <CEDMAN.94Mar11144851@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2mm69f$dgf@news.iastate.edu>
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
In article <2mm69f$dgf@news.iastate.edu>, Chris Wong <chris@iastate.edu> wrote:
>
>zsh2.4pl309 doesn't compile on NS3.2/FIP. If only I can downgrade zsh
>to patch level 300 so that I can try zsh. The following is the error
>message during compilation:
>
A quick fix is to change the line in zsh.h that reads
#define GETPGRP() getpgrp()
to this:
#define GETPGRP() getpgrp(0)
It should compile fine then. Keep in mind that this is just a beta,
not the final release (although I haven't run into anything to keep me
from using this particular version).
Rob
--
| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
--
From: Kaempf@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Bernhard Kaempf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PS->EPS?
Date: 22 Mar 1994 10:36:16 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mmhn0$qnc@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <2mktsi$gj3@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2mktsi$gj3@netnews.upenn.edu> me@vigor.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe
Panico) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a filter to convert Poscript to EPS (in other words,
> create a bitmapped preview from the contents)? Any clues
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Joe Panico
> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
try to load the *.ps file with imageviewer.app (freeware) and to save it
then as *.eps. I used this way to produce EPS-files from PS-files
generated through the print command.
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Forststrasse 86..........Phone: +49 711 121 1435....................
70167 Stuttgart..........Fax : +49 711 63 48 56....................
Germany..................Email: kaempf@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: ImageViewer whitewash
Message-ID: <Cn1rur.8Kz@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <2mema2$erm@yucca.omnigroup.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 03:47:14 GMT
In article <2mema2$erm@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William
Shipley) writes:
> Blake Patterson writes:
>
> > Does anyone know why ImageViewer's images looks so washed out?
> >I had noticed that the images looked like they had a high degree of
> >white "saturation" - but when I compared them to images rendered with
> >CVIEW in Windows (in NS I'm running 16-bit (4096 colors) and in Windows
> >I'm running 32K colors), I was amazed at the large degree to which the
> >Windows images looked more vibrant. It is not a matter of fewer colors,
> >as even 256-color GIF's show this dramatically. Any suggestions?? IF
> >not, is there another ImageViewer-type program that will read JPEG and
> >GIF images and treat them to more brilliance? Thanks. This is a very
> >upsetting discovery.
>
> There are four things that could cause this "washed-out" effect.
>
.
.
.
<first three deleted>
.
.
.
> 4) Finally, there is something called "gamma correction" which I know very
> little about, but apparently can be used to correct the way colors are
> reconstructed when the image is unpacked. The McFilter service allows
> you to set this on the fly for JPEGs and GIFs.
>
This one gets my vote. Gamma correction definitley makes a difference for me
and fixes the "washed-out" look. McFilter does the job quietly and
effectively.
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
--
-Michael
From: igerard@bipbip.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDPlayer on IntelGXPRO
Date: 22 Mar 1994 13:42:33 GMT
Organization: INA, Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Bry-sur-Marne, France
Message-ID: <2mmsk9$9rr@wolfy.ina.fr>
CDplayer say me that it don't fin CDROM's drive when I start it, on an
Intel GX PRO with Adaptec-1542C. The CDROM work in traditionnal use.
Anybody who know why???
Thanks.
From: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Voice mail software??
Date: 22 Mar 1994 13:57:28 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics
Message-ID: <2mmtg8$ds0@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Keywords: moden voice mail message
Before replacing my broken answering machine, I would like to find out if
software/hardware exists to use my NeXT and modem as an answering machine.
Suggestions or reviews appreciated.
--
Sherwin Singer internet: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept. of Chemistry bitnet: singer@ohstpy
Ohio State University
(614)292-8909 FAX: (614)292-1685
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Subject: Re: zsh
Message-ID: <Cn2Bnn.Kp@tms-gmbh.de>
Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de
Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <2mm69f$dgf@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:54:58 GMT
In article <2mm69f$dgf@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
writes:
>
> [munch]
>
> init.c
> init.c: In function `setmoreflags':
> init.c:289: too few arguments to function `getpgrp'
> init.c:294: too few arguments to function `getpgrp'
> init.c:298: too few arguments to function `getpgrp'
> *** Exit 1
> Stop.
>
> [Munch]
>
I downloaded zsh2.4pl306, it showed the same effect.
So I changed line 303 in zsh.h form
#define GETPGRP() getpgrp()
to
#define GETPGRP() getpgrp(0)
That seemed to fix the problem. Works fine so far.
Gerd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: DOOM: Hangs logout on Intel boxes
Message-ID: <1994Mar22.145535.14902@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:55:35 GMT
Run Doom and then select "logout" from the workspace. Has anyone else
noticed Doom hangs the logout process? I am running 3.2 Intel on an
eCesys 66 with the Wingine II, DPT scsi controller, blah, blah, blah.
Quiting Doom and then selecting "logout" from the workspace exits fine.
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc.
neil@bMD.com
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
From: curious@watnxt14.ucr.edu (Jon P Tsai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP for NeXT
Date: 22 Mar 1994 19:13:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2mng16$83p@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <1994Mar21.095218.13818@cc.usu.edu>
In article <1994Mar21.095218.13818@cc.usu.edu> writes:
> In article <2mcv1u$gn5@galaxy.ucr.edu> writes:
> > First of all, for some reason, NXPGP doesn't work (ie wont sign,
> The NXPGP source code checks the *defaults*
> Hope this helps.
>
> Howard
Thanks. 1 down and 1 to go.
now I just need to know how to do a encrypt with my secrect key through NXPGP.
-Curious
From: sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and subscripts
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:33:44 -0800
Organization: University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <sandrac-220394143344@port42.annex1.net.ubc.ca>
References: <9403201934.AA02957@cantina.lanl.gov> <jeffo.764215707@uiuc.edu> <2mk51p$ru9@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <jeffo.764318797@uiuc.edu>
In article <jeffo.764318797@uiuc.edu>, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) wrote:
> >I can't say for certain with Pages, but other text programs on the NeXT
> >work with TeXview's TeX EQ->.EPS service, which will typeset an equation
> >in TeX format right in the other word processor's document, leaving it
> >as an imbedded .eps image. I can't see why this wouldn't work with
> >Pages or WriteUp or PasteUp or any program that handles .eps files.
I wonder if Mr Owens has purchased Pages or is one of the Beta testers ?
Pages is shipping and WriteUp is shipping and soon PasteUp will be shipping
too. This is great news and I hope all the packages will have a loyal user
following and continue to develope their products...
From: jonas@paris.history.washington.edu (Raymond Jonas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WP files in Digital Librarian
Date: 22 Mar 1994 21:27:41 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <2mnnse$2lq@news.u.washington.edu>
Keywords: WordPerfect, Digital Librarian
I'm trying to use Digital Librarian to work with ~2.5mb of text files,
most of them in WordPerfect format. For some reason, Digital Librarian
won't index and search my WordPerfect files. I understand that DL is
supposed to filter out the WP codes, but for some reason it doesn't. Any
hints?
I'm running version 2.1 on a Nextstation.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Raymond A. Jonas
Associate Professor
Department of History, DP-20
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 22 Mar 1994 20:47:25 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2mnlgt$c92@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <2mklplINNgle@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
In article <2mklplINNgle@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
(Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
> For those who have a demo copy of Pages:
>
> 1) Do you *have* to use the Design Models to write a document?
> That is, can I just define a group of styles as in
> MS-Word and apply them to various elements in my document?
Yes, you have to.
> 2) Can you modify the rules in a Design Model to customize it
> to your needs?
Yes, you can. One of them is actually very flexible.
> Thank you for sharing the information with us.
>
> --
> Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
> Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
> 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069
> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
--
Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions
expressed by anyone at any time.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 17:24:00 EST
From: <GRS124@psuvm.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <94081.172400GRS124@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Step for PowerPC ?
Does anyone know if the good people at NeXT are going to port the OS to
PowerPC? I'd really like to run NeXTStep, but I don't wanna do it on a
clone PC. :(
Greg Simon
grs124@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: dbrad@turing.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Answering Machine Software/Modem combination
Message-ID: <Cn38Ju.54L@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: What Answering Machine Software and Appropriate Modem
Keywords: Supra Fax (upgradable for voice recognintion), Answering Machine Software
Sender: David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:45:28 GMT
Have a Supra Fax 14.4/v.32 bis Fax modem. This was suppose to be upgradable via
ROM supplement/replacement chip to handle incoming voice calls (at some level).
1) Is there software to take advantage of this facility and provide me with
the ability to take and retreive messages i.e. "voice mail".
2) Is an upgrade chip available from Supra Corp. ? Please do not give me
their number. I once waited 90 minutes to get a rep on line.
3) Are there other Modems as economical as the Supra which have voice
mail capabilites?
Please respond via e-mail to dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
Thanks,
David Bradford
**************************************************************
Work : Techniques for Solution of Stochastic Optimization
Problems - Sequential and Parallel Algorithms
Quote: The nice thing about mathematics is that one can
explore the universe without molesting it. Certainly
it is not automatic that all will choose a benevolent
course.
David Bradford
**************************************************************
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From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro)
Subject: Which Sound Card Do YOU Want?
Message-ID: <1994Mar23.011352.19078@adobe.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:13:52 GMT
PLEASE REPLY VIA E-MAIL.
I have a Pentium VLB/ISA system. I tried a Pro Audio 16 Basic. It
can't do sampling above 22Khz/16-bit stereo without crashing my
system. It can't use any 16-bit DMA on my system without hanging my
SCSI bus. This isn't NeXT's fault, since the card fails in DOS/Windows
as well.
I don't want the Microsoft WSS, and the others aren't relevant.
So tell me which sound card I should get. I don't want to waste time and
money writing a driver, but if I have to, I will. If I do, I'll make
sources available shareware.
If you are working on a driver for some card, I'll gladly use your
driver instead, even if you want a little money for it. Note: your
driver has to do full 44khz 16-bit stereo record and play in NEXTSTEP,
and the card must do the same obviously, along with good Windows
support, Wave MIDI, and good DOS game support.
Here are some options. Send me your vote via E-mail by April 1st. I'll
send the results to NeXT to help motivate them to do a new driver.
1) SoundBlaster 16. [*]
2) Orchid SoundWave 32. [**]
3) Reveal SoundFXWave 32. [**]
4) Turtle Beach Monterey (no DOS game support, but the best MIDI).
5) Turtle Beach Tahiti+Maui.
5) Advanced Gravis Ultrasound. [***]
6) Other: (name it)
[*] I know of two people doing 8-bit drivers for NEXTSTEP, and I have the
BSD/GNU 8-bit driver sources. If someone (like NeXT) is doing a 16-bit
driver, please let me know. Note: Creative Labs driver kit is only $99.
[**] I believe these cards claim Microsoft WSS compatability, so there is a
chance that they will "just work" in NEXTSTEP with the WSS driver. Has
anyone tried this?
[***] This card has lots of problems (no 16-bit record without an optional
upgrade, poor Windows support, small 256K Wave sample store, etc.), but
seems to be very popular, and has a GNU/Linux driver available. I'll
consider it only if someone can convince me that it is overwhelmingly the
best choice.
I really don't want to write a driver, but if I'm forced to, I will, and
if so, I'd rather that other people got some use out of it, so I don't
want to get a card that no one else uses. What do you say?
Perry
--
caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and subscripts
Date: 23 Mar 94 02:08:43 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.764388523@uiuc.edu>
References: <9403201934.AA02957@cantina.lanl.gov> <jeffo.764215707@uiuc.edu> <2mk51p$ru9@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <jeffo.764318797@uiuc.edu> <sandrac-220394143344@port42.annex1.net.ubc.ca>
Sandra Christensen writes:
[quoted verbatim]
In article <jeffo.764318797@uiuc.edu>, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) wrote:
> >I can't say for certain with Pages, but other text programs on the NeXT
> >work with TeXview's TeX EQ->.EPS service, which will typeset an equation
> >in TeX format right in the other word processor's document, leaving it
> >as an imbedded .eps image. I can't see why this wouldn't work with
> >Pages or WriteUp or PasteUp or any program that handles .eps files.
>I wonder if Mr Owens has purchased Pages or is one of the Beta testers ?
Well, a couple of things. I didn't write what Sandra Christensen
attributed to me. Also, my last name is Nicholson-Owens (as was
accurately quoted in Sandra Christensen's header), not Owens.
Since that's not my text, I guess the question is whether the actual author
of that purchased Pages or was one of the beta testers?
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: Aris Theocharides <aris@xedoc.com.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CDPlayer on IntelGXPRO
Date: 23 Mar 1994 02:12:43 GMT
Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mo8ir$mpm@yarrina.connect.com.au>
References: <2mmsk9$9rr@wolfy.ina.fr>
In article <2mmsk9$9rr@wolfy.ina.fr> igerard@bipbip.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias)
writes:
> CDplayer say me that it don't fin CDROM's drive when I start it, on an
> Intel GX PRO with Adaptec-1542C. The CDROM work in traditionnal use.
>
> Anybody who know why???
>
> Thanks.
Hmm, I am getting a similar problem:
probing for CDROM
probing for DOS
probing for mac
probing for cdaudio
Mar 23 12:02:13 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio
trackEntry: Track number out of range
cdutil: Catalog failed.
Anybody have an idea why? Playing CD's via CDPlayer has been working before
quite well, it just stopped working for some reason! I am also using the
Adaptec 1452C card, and NS 3.2, with an NEC MultiSpin drive.
--
Aris Theocharides
Xedoc
Melbourne, Australia
From: monte.grubb@mccaw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM: Hangs logout on Intel boxes
Date: 22 Mar 1994 23:41:57 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mnvo5$mm7@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <1994Mar22.145535.14902@KYnug.org>
In article <1994Mar22.145535.14902@KYnug.org> Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
writes:
> Run Doom and then select "logout" from the workspace. Has anyone else
> noticed Doom hangs the logout process? I am running 3.2 Intel on an
> eCesys 66 with the Wingine II, DPT scsi controller, blah, blah, blah.
> Quiting Doom and then selecting "logout" from the workspace exits fine.
>
> Neil Greene
I have the same Problem with SoftPC and Doom. I believe it has to do with
NeXT's Interceptor package(NS 3.2) which allows these VGA applications to
gain access to the window server.
Basically, the interceptor must be terminated properly first(ie...quitting
DOOM, SoftPC) before you can log out...
--
______________________________________________________________
Monte Grubb
Technical Analyst McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
monte.grubb@mccaw.com 5400 Carillon Point
206.827.4500 x1212 Kirkland, WA 98033
From: haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Message-ID: <17997@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 23 Mar 94 03:45:37 GMT
References: <jeffo.763945391@uiuc.edu> <2mb02m$est@inxs.concert.net> <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
In article <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes:
>
>I've just used Pages for about 4 hours now. It's
>stupendous. Fast and solid. Very weird. I have
>to completely revise a lot of ideas about text
>formatting, however, and it seems a bit Draconian
>in imposing styles on me.
>
It's this "Draconian" bit that scares me. I couldn't stand a text
processor that wouldn't permit me to do good old fashioned formatting
to my heart's content -- choosing my own fonts, leading, margins,
paragraph styles, and such like. If a "breakthrough" product wants
to add something more to that -- the option to rely on a higher level
of abstraction, predefined sets of integrated styles, and such like,
that's all well and good. But the idea that, in exchange for these
nifty new features, I have to forfeit my own aesthetic sense and
responsibility, and knuckle under to the prior decisions of some
"expert" whom I never met, don't know, and can't talk back to -- that's
intolerable.
Now it may be that I'm overreacting (out of ignorance). Maybe Pages is
liberating and helpful without being a stifling straightjacket. But if
that's so, then the product needs to be better explained. Right now, it
sounds like "page design police", and I wouldn't touch it for free!
John
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Date: 23 Mar 1994 04:17:42 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2moft6$4qh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <jeffo.763945391@uiuc.edu> <2mb02m$est@inxs.concert.net> <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <17997@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
In article <17997@blue.cis.pitt.edu>,
John C Haugeland <haugelan+@pitt.edu> wrote:
>In article <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes:
>>
>>I've just used Pages for about 4 hours now. It's
>>stupendous. Fast and solid. Very weird. I have
>>to completely revise a lot of ideas about text
>>formatting, however, and it seems a bit Draconian
>>in imposing styles on me.
>>
>It's this "Draconian" bit that scares me. I couldn't stand a text
>processor that wouldn't permit me to do good old fashioned formatting
>to my heart's content -- choosing my own fonts, leading, margins,
>paragraph styles, and such like. If a "breakthrough" product wants
>to add something more to that -- the option to rely on a higher level
>of abstraction, predefined sets of integrated styles, and such like,
>that's all well and good. But the idea that, in exchange for these
>nifty new features, I have to forfeit my own aesthetic sense and
>responsibility, and knuckle under to the prior decisions of some
>"expert" whom I never met, don't know, and can't talk back to -- that's
>intolerable.
>
>Now it may be that I'm overreacting (out of ignorance). Maybe Pages is
>liberating and helpful without being a stifling straightjacket. But if
>that's so, then the product needs to be better explained. Right now, it
>sounds like "page design police", and I wouldn't touch it for free!
>
>John
>
Well, what you say is true, but not all. Pages seems to be
for people doing layout in an enormous hurry. Its design
models do allow for hundreds of variations.
You cannot rotate text or images, which is so fun in
PasteUp, for example.
There is *no* kerning allowed! At leat in the design models
supplied.
No creative stuff like different leading within same word
In short, styles are *rigidly* imposed. But it *is*
a very likeable app, and I recommend you try it. If
PasteUp worked adequately (vers. 2.0 did not) I might
prefer making a mess with it.
Try Pages. Then judge. It's nice, but very limiting.
RKD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP for NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Mar22.191609.13956@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com
Date: 22 Mar 94 19:16:08 MDT
References: <2mcv1u$gn5@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Distribution: world
In article <2mcv1u$gn5@galaxy.ucr.edu> writes:
> It seems that the 'Sign' function doesn't produce the same
> effect for it doesn't encrypt the text with my secretkey, it
> just sign it. Basically, I guess I am wondering if there is
> a way to encrypt the text with my secretkey so I can send it
> to people who have my public key by using NXPGP.
By default the method runpgp in the Cryptor.m file uses the
command line option "+clearsig=on" when signing text. This
will sign the text, but leave the text in the clear. The
easiest way to get the effect you want is to remove this
option and recompile NXPGP.
I've made more extensive mods that put two service buttons
under Services/PGP - one for clearsigning and one for regular
signing. If you'd like these changes, I can send them to you.
Howard
Begin PGP Public CIA attracting key block
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
FBI-CIA-KGB-NSA-BCCI-DIA-DEA-FEMA-KKK-FOIA-CONTRA-TRILAT-BATF-INS-IRS-MI5
MICHAEL JACKSON-CJE-5-NAMBLA-JFK-RFK-MLK-MKULTRA-COINTELPRO-ILLUMINATI-P2
THC Cill my landlord YOG-CFR-ADL-BLUEBIRD-OSS-ONI-SOE-BIS-MOSSAD-AIDS
CIA Cill my landlord IA!IA!-THULE-ARTICHOKE-OTO-NSA-BILDERBERGER-40 CTTE
VAI Cill my landlord SOTHOTH-SLA-SHOGGOTHS-SDI-INSLAW-TESLA-LAROUCHE-TSS
HI, I'M SATAN-ENJOY THE FILM-JIM JONES-GURDJIEFF-ABSWEHR-T.4-WACO-CROWLEY
HERE I GO-VROOM-HAUNTING TORGO THEME-RHIC/EDOM-PANDORA-CAN-ENIGMA-BEARDEN
GHELEN-SPETZNAZ-SS-MASONS-ODESSA-TAVISTOCK-WFMH-REUCHELIN-EUGENICS-OCCULT
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
End (really bad) encryption
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From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly
Message-ID: <1994Mar22.161509.4416@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <TSPENCER.94Mar21184652@kiwi.mccaw.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 16:15:09 GMT
In article <TSPENCER.94Mar21184652@kiwi.mccaw.com> tspencer@kiwi.mccaw.com (Tim
Spencer) writes:
> In article <743MBO6K@gwdu03.gwdg.de> mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
writes:
>
> David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
>
> : I have two NeXTStations networked and I would like tho know if
> : there is software/hardware out there to operate one or more slabs
> : headless - without monitor or keyboard.
>
> : I figure that the biggest problem is turning the machine on. I figure
> : it will probably boot off of the net if I set it up as a diskless
> : client. Then I could either remotely login or "tip" over via the serial
> : ports.
>
> : Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions or
> : help will be much appreciated.
>
> Get a Soundbox! Then you can turn on the computer by plugging in
> a keyboard in the Soundbox.
>
> If you have an ADB turbo box... Or actually, I think that
> there are some non ADB boxes that have this ROM feature... Anyways,
> if you have the right ROM version, you can specify in the Preferences
> app for the machine to turn on right after powerfail. Then, if you
> specify in the ROM monitor for the console to be on serial port A, and
> disable the loginwindow in /etc/ttys, the machine will boot up as soon
> as it gets power, and all console i/o will go out serial port A.
>
> We have several here in our room for NXHosting the few
> remaining black only apps that we need. It's been a while since I set
> one up like that, so the details above may be a bit vague, but the
> intent is correct at least.
>
> Hope you can use this info! Have fun!!
>
>
> --
> Tim Spencer: McCaw NeXT Technical Analyst tim.spencer@mccaw.com
> (206)915-5988 :-) NeXTMail welcome!!
If your NeXT doesn't support the "power-on at power-off" ROM facility, you can
build a plug for it that shorts out the right pins. Here's a copy of some
mail I got with the details (we are doing this with a NeXT 25mhz station, and
it works fine):
From: shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 12:52:24 -0500
To: "Serge J. Goldstein" <serge@Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Re: Using serial port A as an alternate console
Reply-To: shayman@Objectario.com
Aha, here it is (in my old "User's Reference" document from the NeXTSTEP 1.0
days)
Pin 6 is "MON PWR SWITCH" If you short this to one of the ground
pins - pins 13-19 are ground on this connector - then that's the
same as the power key being pressed.
good luck,
steve
Serge J. Goldstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: zsh
In-Reply-To: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu's message of Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:29:31 GMT
To: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar22091819@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <9403110220.AA08820@igor.music.qc.edu>
<CEDMAN.94Mar11144851@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<2mm69f$dgf@news.iastate.edu> <Cn27p7.n9H@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:18:18 GMT
In article <Cn27p7.n9H@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes:
In article <2mm69f$dgf@news.iastate.edu>, Chris Wong <chris@iastate.edu> wrote:
>zsh2.4pl309 doesn't compile on NS3.2/FIP. If only I can downgrade zsh
>to patch level 300 so that I can try zsh. The following is the error
>message during compilation:
Yes, this really is a problem introduced between pl300 and pl306. You
could get pl309 and then apply the patches 301-309 in reverse, but the
following is of course a better solution.
A quick fix is to change the line in zsh.h that reads
#define GETPGRP() getpgrp()
to this:
#define GETPGRP() getpgrp(0)
Even better according Joseph Goldstone <joseph@black-sand.slip.netcom.com>
is to make the following change in zsh.h:
From
#if !defined(__sgi) || !defined(_BSD_COMPAT) /* IRIX */
to
#if !defined(__NeXT__) && (!defined(__sgi) || !defined(_BSD_COMPAT)) /* IRIX */
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: DPMS screen saver for an ATI GUP?
Message-ID: <Cn3woJ.50M@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 07:26:43 GMT
Has anyone seen one of these yet?
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: jca@silly.next.com (John Atkinson (Contractor))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TCSH available at tesla.ee.cornell.edu
Date: 23 Mar 1994 07:42:29 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2mort5$ihj@rosie.next.com>
Keywords: tcsh
TCSH is great and I have used it for years. ZSH is great too, but it
takes way too long to learn. If you do not think CSH totally sucks, then
you migh just like TCSH.
Anyway you can ftp it from tesla.ee.cornell.edu.
Cheers,
John Atkinson
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and subscripts
Date: 23 Mar 1994 08:25:28 -0000
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2moudo$157@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <9403201934.AA02957@cantina.lanl.gov> <2mk51p$ru9@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <jeffo.764318797@uiuc.edu> <sandrac-220394143344@port42.annex1.net.ubc.ca>
sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <jeffo.764318797@uiuc.edu>, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.
>Nicholson-Owens) wrote:
>
>> >I can't say for certain with Pages, but other text programs on the NeXT
>> >work with TeXview's TeX EQ->.EPS service, which will typeset an equation
>> >in TeX format right in the other word processor's document, leaving it
>> >as an imbedded .eps image. I can't see why this wouldn't work with
>> >Pages or WriteUp or PasteUp or any program that handles .eps files.
>
>
>I wonder if Mr Owens has purchased Pages or is one of the Beta testers ?
>
>Pages is shipping and WriteUp is shipping and soon PasteUp will be shipping
>too. This is great news and I hope all the packages will have a loyal user
>following and continue to develope their products...
Loyal user following?
It's comments like JB's that improve products. or at least the
competitions products :-)
--
"Bitch" (Albert Finney, Audrey Hepburn)
"Bastard"
(Two for the Road, 1967)
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rfi@jeans.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: Re: PS->EPS?
Message-ID: <1994Mar23.102355.6204@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
References: <2mktsi$gj3@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 10:23:55 GMT
In article <2mktsi$gj3@netnews.upenn.edu> me@vigor.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe
Panico) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a filter to convert Poscript to EPS (in other words,
> create a bitmapped preview from the contents)? Any clues
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Joe Panico
> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Tailor gives a really PostScript (not bitmap) solution:
- Load your PostScript file into Tailor
- Copy the parts you want to convert onto the pasteboard
- Create a new document in tailor
- Paste the stuff onto this new page
- Save this page
Tailor could save one-page-documents as EPS.
BTW: Tailor is not for free, but a really great product.
--
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------- _`\<,_
fischer@fokus.gmd.de ------- (*)/ (*) ## NeXT-Mail welcome ##
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bud@slip4.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jeff Fields)
Subject: Re: Voice mail software??
Message-ID: <1994Mar23.093852.8644@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Sender: news@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (News)
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
References: <2mmtg8$ds0@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 09:38:52 GMT
In article <2mmtg8$ds0@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
singer@mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> Before replacing my broken answering machine, I would like to find out
if
> software/hardware exists to use my NeXT and modem as an answering
machine.
> Suggestions or reviews appreciated.
>
> --
> Sherwin Singer internet: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu
> Dept. of Chemistry bitnet: singer@ohstpy
> Ohio State University
> (614)292-8909 FAX: (614)292-1685
Yes, the NeXT package 'am', by Patrick Stein, provides answering machine
functionality. You can also set up a voice mail system, and receive faxes
with it. It's 'sleepware'; available on the NeXT archives.
Jeff Fields
Univ. of Iowa
From: cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis Lafont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Date for Black Hardware
Date: 23 Mar 1994 11:26:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2mp91u$n72@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello,
I am looking for the Date software that was distributed with
NS 2.0 for Black Hardware (yes, it is obvious... ;-))
I removed my version this morning and of course I have
no backup....
Thanks a lot,
D.
PS: NeXTmail welcomed....
--
--------------------------
Denis Lafont.....cs438@cleveland.freenet.edu
Tel: (+33) (1) 43.45.99.67
--------------------------
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 23 Mar 1994 12:11:19 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2mpbl7$60t@nic-nac.CSU.net>
NEXTSTEP's legendary ease of use
with the power of RISC
not next year
right now
Compatible with
SPARC (SunOS and Solaris)
PA-RISC (HP/UX)
DEC Alpha (OSF/1)
IBM RS/6000 (AIX)
and a lot more
NO root access required
NO proprietary servers to install
NO hassle
Anonymous FTP from sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230]
pub/RBrowser/
README Installation instructions
RBrowser0.9-fat.tar.Z Software + Product Description
RelNotes Release Notes
Requires:
NEXTSTEP 3.1 or 3.2
TCP/IP connectivity to one or more UNIX machines
Architectures: m68k + i386 (MAB)
Languages: English (more coming)
Documentation: Extensive built-in help, User Guide forthcoming
Status: Beta/Demo; 1.0 release due in a couple of weeks
Support: bug reports accepted via e-mail (see Release Notes)
Copy protection: NONE
Price: FREE!
NOTE: This is a "snapshot" of a work in progress. It is *not* a
finished product, it has many rough edges, and it's going to
change a lot in coming months. However, the authors feel that
it's useful enough today that we shouldn't deprive the NeXT
community any longer. Please do not redistribute this software;
do not place it on other anonymous FTP sites, do not include it
on CD-ROM distributions, etc. Newer/more functional/less buggy
versions will be coming out between now and Expo.
Oh, and one other thing--and I know this is going to be really
hard for some of you--please don't e-mail the authors directly
with questions or comments. We have (or will have) special
e-mail addresses set up for bug reporting and a mailing list for
users. Of course, comp.sys.next.software is undoubtably the best
place for general discussion.
-=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 23 Mar 1994 12:28:57 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2mpcm9$6bo@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2mpbl7$60t@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Sorry about that last sentence ... it's late and I'm dead tired.
(But you know what I meant, right?)
-=EPS=-
From: jtod@access1.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Review of Who's Calling?
Date: 23 Mar 1994 12:58:32 GMT
Organization: Wit's End
Message-ID: <2mpedo$9rf@news1.digex.net>
Summary: Need someone to give a rating on "Who's Calling"
Keywords: Who's Calling, whoville, contacts
I've heard that there is a software package called "Who's Calling" by
Adamation. However, I don't know the first thing about it other than it's
contact management software. I need good contact management software - I've
looked at SBook, and that isn't quite up to par for what I need.
Anyone have Who's Calling? Like it? Could you give me the contact info for
Adamation? I looked on cs.orst.edu, but a logical search didn't find a
demo. Does one exist?
Thanks!
--
John Todd - Field Sales/Technical Entropy Supervisor - jtod@digex.net
1-800-969-9090 for info OR telnet access.digex.net login:new
6006 Greenbelt Rd., Suite 228, Greenbelt MD 20770
Providing Internet Access for Corporate and Individual Users
From: msander@bcarh63f.bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Submissions to bcarh50b (47.141.3.161)
Date: 23 Mar 1994 13:35:00 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Sender: msander@bcarh63f (Michael Sanderson)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mpgi4$bvg@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
References: <2mnlvg$mkq@bmerha64.bnr.ca> <2mo5p0$cn2@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <2mo5p0$cn2@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
(Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>In article <2mnlvg$mkq@bmerha64.bnr.ca> msander@bcarh63f.bnr.ca (Michael >Sanderson) writes:
>>
>> [stuff about ftp submissions deleted
>>
>Excuse my ignorance, but what does this do?
>Is it one of those things that one doesn't need unless you already
>know what it is?
The submission post was meant to be kept within BNR, otherwise
I'd let Scott do the posting ... somehow it escaped. Sorry for
the confusion.
BTW NeXTYahtzee is (IMHO) a really good NS interface to the tripple-yahtzee
game, Sniff is a public-sound-server Sniffle generator. i.e. it makes your
NeXT appear to have a cold, because it 'sniffs' every now and then.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael R. Sanderson a.k.a msander@bnr.ca (NeXT Mail Accepted)
My opinions are my own, which is good 'cause nobody else wants 'em
From: dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 23 Mar 1994 13:45:04 GMT
Organization: MicroMuse Ltd, London, England
Message-ID: <2mph50$3j0@jake.micromuse.co.uk>
References: <2mpbl7$60t@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Eric P. Scott (eps@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote:
[Hype deleted... this is software not advocacy ]
: Anonymous FTP from sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230]
: pub/RBrowser/
: README Installation instructions
: RBrowser0.9-fat.tar.Z Software + Product Description
: RelNotes Release Notes
[ Lots of other bits deleted because...... ]
Here's a question....
What is it....
You've told us everything but that........
--
============================================================================
dj@micromuse.co.uk |"I'm a loser, Baby, so why don't you kill me?" Beck
Voice +44-81-875-9500 |"I've seen the future, I can't afford it" ABC
------------------------+---------------------------------------------------
Non-standard Disclaimer : "I didn't do it, it wasn't me, I wasn't there"
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software
From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: OTI distributor Germany/Europe
Message-ID: <O35MBG0L@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:23:26 GMT
Hello,
I need to know the german/european distributor of OTI.
Does anyone have this information?
Thanks, Stephan
--
trebelw@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 23 Mar 1994 17:08:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mpt31$flc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <2mph50$3j0@jake.micromuse.co.uk>
In article <2mph50$3j0@jake.micromuse.co.uk> dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ
Walker-Morgan) writes:
> Eric P. Scott (eps@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote:
>
> [Hype deleted... this is software not advocacy ]
>
> : Anonymous FTP from sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230]
> : pub/RBrowser/
> : README Installation instructions
> : RBrowser0.9-fat.tar.Z Software + Product Description
> : RelNotes Release Notes
>
> [ Lots of other bits deleted because...... ]
>
> Here's a question....
>
> What is it....
>
> You've told us everything but that........
Oh, that's part of the fun. The first person correctly guessing what
RBrowser does gets a copy of RBrowser1.0 FREE!! Oh, it's already free...
Well, I'll enter my guess. Let's see, 'R' - remote, yeah, remote,
that's it, like rcp, rlogin, rsh, etc. But a BIG 'R' because it's a
NEXTSTEP app, not a little 'r' like those weany UNIX command-line
utilities :-)
So remote browser. Let's see, what might we be able to browse remotely
across a network. Well, how 'bout file systems? Yeah, RFileViewer.
Maybe that's it. Yeah, I can just see it now, you select a file and press
the Copy button, and RCp.
Or how 'bout remote users, RWho? Yeah, you select a name and press the
Talk button, and at the sound of a ringing telephone, you "ring up" the
remote user asking to engage in a talk session in the RBrowser shell
window.
Or maybe you browse the accessible network nodes. Select the node
you'd like to establish a login session on, press the Login button, and,
voila, RLogin.
Gosh, what an app!! When are we going to learn more? (Probably when
EPS awakens, but his hours may be somewhat different than your hours :-)
:-)
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: jmm@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: S-PLUS and other stat apps Was Re: Statistical software -etc
Date: 23 Mar 1994 17:39:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <940323094145.1369AABqZ.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>
References: <2lt3ns$ea8@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2lt9o5$md4@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Date: 12 Mar 1994 20:47:01 GMT
> From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
> Subject: S-PLUS and other stat apps Was Re: Statistical software -etc
>
> >
> I havn't heard anything about TSP, are there demos available on the
> archive sites?
> What happened to Gauss? I had heard it was about to be released about the
> time black h/w died. Is it still alive?
TSP (not Micro TSP, different product) has been running on NS for about 2
years. Contact tspintl@suwatson.stanford.edu for pricing, etc.
Aptech, which produces Gauss, has steadfastly maintained it has no plans to
port Gauss to NS.
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 23 Mar 1994 17:51:21 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Message-ID: <2mpvip$1pf@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <2mph50$3j0@jake.micromuse.co.uk>
In article <2mph50$3j0@jake.micromuse.co.uk> dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ
Walker-Morgan) writes:
> Eric P. Scott (eps@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote:
> : Anonymous FTP from sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230]
> : pub/RBrowser/
> : README Installation instructions
> : RBrowser0.9-fat.tar.Z Software + Product Description
> : RelNotes Release Notes
>
> [ Lots of other bits deleted because...... ]
>
> Here's a question....
>
> What is it....
>
> You've told us everything but that........
>
Being curious, I grabbed RBrowser from their archive. Here is what it is from
the product description document:
RBrowser
--------
Remote Browser (RBrowser) provides access to files on remote UNIX systems with
NEXTSTEP graphical interface. While matching the Workspace Manager's file
viewer look and feel, it provides a uniform interface to distributed file
transfer and file related operations, greatly simplifying access and use of
files on remote systems scattered across the Internet. RBrowser was
developered at the Advanced Computing Laboratory, of Sna Francisco State
University's Computer Science Department.
..
Following this description is feature list, functions, benefits, file
transfers, and international support, tested remote systems, etc.
- Tim -
--------------------------------------------------------------
Tim Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu
Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270
Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064
NeXTmail ok!
From: mark@crocus.cs.odu.edu (Mark Imbriaco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXPGP.
Date: 23 Mar 1994 18:49:37 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MARK.94Mar23134938@crocus.cs.odu.edu>
I seem to be having some problems getting NXPGP to work using any of the services
that show up on the Services menu. All of the Settings are set correctly, so
what I am wondering is if there is anything special that I need to do to get it
to run? Where should the PGP binary be located? Every time I try to run it it
eventually comes back saying service unavailable.. ideas?
--
---
Mark Imbriaco
mark@cs.odu.edu
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 23 Mar 1994 19:08:42 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <2mq43q$98p@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <2mph50$3j0@jake.micromuse.co.uk> <2mpvip$1pf@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
In article <2mpvip$1pf@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>,
Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> wrote:
>RBrowser
>--------
>Remote Browser (RBrowser) provides access to files on remote UNIX [...]
This is a real neat product, no, make that Real Neat Product.
Had no trouble connecting to an Ultrix machine or to a Sun.
Bravo tutti!
--
[Jess Anderson % anderson@doit.wisc.edu % Network Engineering Technology Group]
[Systems Engineering Dept % Div of Information Technology % Univ of Wisconsin]
[The University is the medium, not the voice. Opinions herein are mine alone.]
[-------------> I didn't know it was impossible when I did it. <--------------]
From: dclemmer%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (David Clemmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP uninstall
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 23 Mar 1994 18:43:04 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ
Message-ID: <2mq2joINNhcn@faatcrl.faa.gov>
References: <CMzEw5.CC7@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
David Hill (hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca) wrote:
: In article <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU> bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) writes:
: > I am in need of UNinstalling NeXTSTEP temporarily. I've a CD-
: >ROM drive now, so reinstallation will be possible. I have reformatted
: >my drive to DOS, and all is well, BUT I cannot seem to locate where
: >exactly the NeXT boot0 loader is located. I would like to remove it.
: >Can someone tell me how to do this? I assume it is possible. I
: [munch]
: You should try the (undocumented) option on fdisk:
: fdisk /mbr
: This should get rid of the NeXT boot stuff.
: david
: --
: david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more
: voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge.
: nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
and if that doesn't work (and i actually once got into such a situation
with linux' lilo utility), try low-level formatting the disk... that _will
get rid of the problem...:>
of course, there's also the dd solution... i assume you could do this from
NS (haven't yet used NS, myself :< ); that is,
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
this wipes out the partition table and boot sector for the disk quite
thoroughly... btw, that's the linux syntax for that... if anyone wants to
correct that syntax for NS (assuming it's different... it might not be, tho...
:)
later,
Dave
"Geeks of All Nations, Compile!"
ps: if this comes thru garbled, my apologies... something seems to be wrong
with termcap here... *sigh*
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 23 Mar 1994 14:42:45 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2mq63l$gm@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Searching for a FONT-Editor and a simple TIFF-view with eraser
Message-ID: <Cn4uD5.KH@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 19:34:16 GMT
I m looking and asking for a FONT-Editor on NeXT for creating
Type1-Fonts, manipulating and so on. Am I the only one asking for it?
The other thing, a very simple and quick TIFF view-app like preview
with an eraser for cleaning up scans and also making parts/selections
of an image to a new one and possibility to save them as a new one!
Any apps out there?
Manfred
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From: johnc@idcube.idsoftware.com (John Carmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOM: Hangs logout on Intel boxes
Date: 23 Mar 1994 15:30:51 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403232117.AA11308@idcube.idsoftware.com>
>I have the same Problem with SoftPC and Doom. I believe it has to
>do with NeXT's Interceptor package(NS 3.2) which allows these VGA
>applications to gain access to the window server.
If only DOOM did use interceptor...
DOOM just uses the standard bitmap imaging function to draw to the
window. I had an oportunity to try out interceptor, and it made the
200% view almost exactly twice as fast. NeXT's position is that
interceptor is not for public use, so I couldn't actually use it for
the release product. This is understandable -- letting any program
crap all over the entire screen breaks down interface consistancy
real quick.
The hanging on logout is probably because DOOM doesn't have a real
main event loop, but instead polls for events inside it's main loop.
I might fix it One Of These Days...
John Carmack
Technical Director
Id Software
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: COWS Macro Language and NS
Date: 23 Mar 1994 22:21:18 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2mqfcu$pd4@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Hi everybody. Many people have responded to my recent postings about
a macro language for NeXTSTEP that I've decided to post a little FAQ about
the current project. So I'm lazy... :-)
What is COWS?
COWS is a software suite in progress that ultimately should:
Establish a common user "language" for controlling applications
Establish a way for applications to control each other
Make it possible for users to stitch many applications together
COWS fundamentally is an interpreter object that lets users control
applications through a simple programming language. Almost as important,
COWS has a series of protocols describing how the COWS interpreter, or any
similar interpreter, could communicate with other interpreters, with the
application, and with function libraries. COWS comes with a fully-
structured, Lisp-like language, though syntax can change without modifying
protocols. Lastly, COWS comes with a test application to demonstrate what
an embedded interpreter can do.
The COWS Protocols
Central to the COWS project is the development of protocols that could let
any interpreter communicate with any other interpreter, let any interpreter
be easily dropped into any application, and allow for public distribution
of libraries to extend the power of an application. With these protocols
in place, the COWS interpreter could be replaced with a far better one;
implementation is not as significant as interface here.
The COWS Interpreter
The COWS interpreter is a small interpreter object designed to be dropped
into any application and hooked up with relatively little pain for the
programmer. The interpreter can run in a variety of modes and provides
modest (but not good enough) security.
The COWS Language
COWS comes with a block-structured, event-driven, typeless, functional
programming language that's a hybrid of Lisp and HyperTalk, with some
Scheme and Obj-C thrown in. The language is designed to be easy to parse,
relatively easy to learn, and VERY small ( to allow for a small
interpreter).
The COWS Libraries
Alone, the interpreter can do barely anything at all. Actually doing
_work_ is the job of COWS function libraries, which provide everything
from arrays to printing to application control to interapplication
communication. You can write your own libraries as a user. Applications
write libraries to provide access to an application's API. And of course
there are a number of standard libraries that come with COWS.
The COWS Test Application
The COWS package currently comes with a stupid little application whose
function is to show off what the interpreter can and can't do, and test
new interpreter features. A common mistake people make is confusing the
COWS application with the COWS interpreter--the application is just a shell
for the minute until we stick the interpreter in a real application!
The COWS Project and OpenScript and tcl and HyperSense and...
The COWS Project started with a posting I made about a language called
"Crud" a month back. In the posting, I proposed a macro language
and protocol format that would give users a common way of programmatically
controlling applications. I've been the chief contributor so far, though
about 5 other people are working on it, and there's a 50-man email list
(send mail to sean@alpine.com).
OpenScript is a breakoff of the COWS Project to discuss OS-wide macro
language design for NeXTSTEP in general. There is a seperate email list
for OpenScript. Both lists have a great deal of overlap (send mail to
bpja@xedoc.com.au).
COWS is not tcl. The COWS language is different, and for better or for
worse, the COWS interpreter is written expressly for NeXTSTEP. Both COWS
and various tcl implementations, along with HyperSense, Dylan, AppleScript,
REXX and A/REXX, etc. are discussed in the OpenScript e-mail list.
HyperSense and COWS overlap much, and many HyperSense users are on the
COWS email list. We've had a great deal of excellent input from the
developers of HyperSense as well, and are indebted to 'em.
Current Projects
I'm working on an inter-application control and communication library using
distributed objects, which should make it a breeze for one
application's COWS intepreter to control and send/receive messages
with another application. This will move COWS from an intra-app
macro interpreter to a full inter-app macro interpreter.
A small group may soon be working on making nice IB palettes to make it
brutally easy to integrate COWS into an app, and even allow any
user to build a simple but powerful application with IB and COWS
and not a drop of C code.
Another group is working on a library/application to allow COWS-compliant
apps to control _any_ other app, not just other COWS-compliant ones,
through NXJournaling. This isn't nearly as nice as distributed
objects control between interpreters, but absolutely necessary for
the vast majority of interpreter-less applications out there.
Where can I get COWS?
COWS can be had in pub/nextinterpreter on alpine.com. The current version,
1.2, doesn't have inter-application capabilities (wait a few more days),
and is rather rough in areas. So don't discount it by looks alone! Most
of the goodies are buried deep within the application for the time being.
How can I help out?
COWS needs help in a number of areas. Whole function libraries are
unwritten, the interpreter is fairly untested, and no optional interpreters
have been written (with a different syntax, say). If you have experience
in Obj-C development or macro programming and you'd like to see power put
in the hands of users, drop me a line; we've got a lot of stuff available
for everyone to do.
What does COWS stand for?
Nothing. It was the winner of the recent name-that-interpreter contest
in the e-mail groups, and originally posed by a compatriot poking fun at
my signature.
+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke milk:-cows. |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu (if (cows) 'milk) |
| if only I spoke for Alpine... [milk set:[cows val]]; |
From: bakker@fsu_1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer FIP and OmniWeb.app & setting up services
Date: 23 Mar 94 18:45:49
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <bakker.94Mar23184549@fsu_1>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Hey all.
I just downloaded NewsGrazer from cs.orst.edu, and I thought it would be FAT, but it ain't.
Anyone know where a FAT one is?
Also, OmniWeb is great. I've used it on our slabs and it worked like a charm..
We just got an intel back to use, and I tried it, but I can't see any of the images.
I know we use ImageAgent, but I can't seem to get it set up as a service for the intel, and I think that might be the problem (it is FAT tho)....
Any hints?
-- Cary
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (long)
Date: 24 Mar 1994 00:54:58 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mqod2$25u@network.ucsd.edu>
The following comes from Bruce Webster (bwebster@pages.com). I'm just the
poster; replies should go to him.
---
First, thanks for all the comments about Pages. We appreciate the praise;
we welcome the criticism. Frankly, there is no one more critical of the
product than we are, but we decided that we'd rather shape successive
versions of the product based on real-world customer feedback rather than
keep adding features ourselves. We also decided that some income would be
nice. :-)
Let me clarify our initial market. Pages is specifically aimed at the
largest segments of the NEXTSTEP marketplace: businesses, corporations and
gov't agencies deploying NS workstations on the desks of everyday workers.
These workers want and need to create well-designed documents of any
length, often adhering to a corporate or gov't design standard. They want
and need to do it quickly and easily, without going through a lot of
training, working with thick manuals, or having to become design experts.
Because of that focus and because this is, after all, the very first
release of Pages, we obviously can't and don't incorporate all desired
features from all existing products. We recognize that the withdrawal of
Frame and WP from the NEXTSTEP market has left many of you looking for a
replacement. We hope that through successive and timely updates to Pages,
and based on your feedback, we can meet your needs. However, we will
probably never support Emacs key bindings. ;-)
Two years ago, with our funding and senior staff finally in place, we
compiled a list of some 700 possible features found in word processing and
desktop publishing products. We then looked at the NeXT marketplace (in
which WordPerfect and Frame were still very active), identified our
possible customers, put together a business plan acceptable to ourselves
and our investors, and selected features based on our technology, our
competition and our initial targeted market segments. The feature set was
frozen over a year ago; we certainly have lots more to add into successive
releases of Pages.
Now that we've shipped, we have already started on several follow-up
projects, all of which run under NEXTSTEP/OpenStep. I can't talk about
most of them, but rest assured there are updates to Pages already in the
works.
ANSWERS TO NET COMMENTS
There have been many questions and comments about Pages on the net, both
by those who have it and those who don't. Here are some answers and
responses.
1) Release 1.0 problems with importing files using extended ASCII
characters.
A last-minute bug fix that went in two weeks before ship inadvertently
caused this problem; prior to that, we had no problem importing and
preserving foreign and special characters. The problem has been corrected;
a product update with a correction will go out within a few weeks to all
customers. This will actually be our second bug fix update since release
1.0; we plan to be aggressive in supporting and maintaining a quality
product.
2) questions about improving filter intelligence
As I noted in the reply to Alex Levine's review of Pages, we already have
our "Phase II" filters working which preserve text emphasis information
(bold, italic, underline, super/subscript, etc.) from a variety of file
formats, including RTF, WriteNow, WordPerfect and Frame (MIF). These were
actually working some weeks before ship, but we chose to hold them back
rather than either slip the launch date or put them in without adequate
testing. They will be included in the first functional upgrade to Pages,
scheduled for sometime this year (actual date and feature set to be
announced later). However, since the filters are all implemented as
bundles, we may release them separately, so that user can upgrade
import/export functionality without having to upgrade Pages itself.
Beyond that, we are working on "Phase III" filters. These will do some
degree of mapping into Pages design elements. Recognize, however, that
there are significant problems. There will always be conflicts,
incompatibilities and mapping problems when coming from a free-format
environment into a design-constrained environment.
3) questions about superscript and subscript
Dick Silber's report notwithstanding, superscript and subscript have
_always_ been in the feature set. Dick's critique on the UI aspects of
super/subscript are well taken, though, and have been passed on to the
appropriate people. In the meantime, he or anyone else can use the
Preferences app to remap command key equivalents to something more of
their liking. :-)
3a) but can you underline?
Yes. Also strikethrough, double-underline, double-strikethrough and small
caps.
4) cross-references
Pages has a rather powerful, generalized marker/variable architecture
built into it, which is quite capable of supporting cross-referencing and
a whole lot more. However, cross-referencing as a feature was deferred
because of the far more complex and time-consuming issues involved in UI
design, documentation (the manual was completed a year ago) and testing.
4a) a general response to "where's this feature?"
There are a lot of things which the underlying Pages architecture and
technology can do which the user can't access; there are even more
features which we could have put in which we didn't. Why? Well, first,
because it wasn't absolutely essential for our initial market. We were
pretty ruthless at times as far as what we kept and what we cut.
As importantly, though, we knew that the schedule cost for each additional
feature has little to do with actual coding time. Instead, as with
cross-references, it has to do with design, UI, documentation, and
testing. Frederick Brooks in _The Mythical Man-Month_ estimates that pure
coding time is only about 1/6th of the total schedule for a professional
software product. He's right. In fact, with OOD, it may be even less.
Needless to say, we have a long list of features to be added in and other
improvements to make; they will be prioritized based on market and
customer requirements. We do want to avoid the "kitchen sink" syndrome of
WinWord 6.0 and WPWin 6.0, and additions made will be done in a manner
consistent with Pages architecture and technology. If anything, I'd like
to simplify and rationalize the user interface even more.
5) Are there Pages templates?
Pages comes with a set of 18 templates, including memos, letters, reports
and so on. These are installed in .../Library/Pages/Templates. They are
visible when you select the New from Template... command in the Document
menu, or when you select a default template in the Preferences panel.
There are also an additional 28 Sample documents, which are (optionally)
installed in .../Library/Pages/Samples.
6) Why isn't Pages on the archives or available via e-mail?
We've looked long and hard about putting a demo version of Pages out on
the archives somewhere. We've decided against it for three reasons:
a) Our Director of Quality does not have the resources to post and
maintain quality and version synchronization of archived copies. He runs
a professional SQA organization and maintains tight control over
versioning, configuration, etc. Our timebomb mechanism involves a separate
licensing app which would need to be updated on a regular basis.
b) It's hard to justify diverting resources from our customers to spend
time providing technical support for people who have questions about how
to correctly install and use Pages from an archived version without the
manual and other documentation.
c) The complete application (with embedded on-line help) plus design
models (with icons and resident expert information) plus all other
ancillary files runs about 13 MB compressed.
For $14.95 + shipping [not "$1495" as Dave at Paradigm Shift inadvertently
posted :-) ], we will send anyone a complete, fully-functional version of
the application with a 30-day timebomb. This version comes with the full
documentation set (200+ pages), though it doesn't have the hard slipcase
or the three-ring manual binder. You also get free technical support for
the 30 days that the app is functional. If you decide to buy the app, you
can deduct the cost of the demo version. It's hard to beat that for around
$20, and it's a bit more convenient that trying to download and install
Pages from the archives.
7) Do I have to have Design Models(tm) to write a document?
Yes. Three design models--Writer, Victory and April--are shipped with the
product; a fourth, Victory Presents, will be bundled in as soon as it
passes SQA (and will be shipped out free to existing customers). Writer is
a "plain vanilla" word-processor-type DM: single column, lots and lots of
paragraph styles, etc. Victory is a standard business DM, with a large
number of styles for each design element class. April, designed by LA
graphic designer April Greiman, is a bit more avant-garde. Victory
Presents is used for making presentation slides.
8) When will more design models be available?
Our in-house Design Model Organization (DMO) is working on several even as
I type. Some of these are being developed for customers; others will be
available for general purchase. Note that the current $595 special
includes one new design model in addition to those bundled with Pages.
9) When will design model tools be available?
We are currently developing tools to allow users to create new design
models or modify existing ones. This has a high priority (for obvious
reasons). Products, pricing and availability will be announced later. :-)
10) Will you ever be on CD-ROM?
Yes. We considered doing our initial release on CD-ROM, but wanted to keep
the flexibility of floppies for a little while.
11) Is it true that the Pages engineering team sent your office manager's
stuffed green dragon all the way around the world?
Closer to two times around, actually, and we have the pictures to prove
it. Also, the large photo in our front lobby of the entire Blue Angels (US
Navy) precision flying team, in uniform, posing in front of their planes
with the dragon is genuine and unretouched.
Thanks again for all your comments; I'll do my best to answer questions
and concerns as they come up. Many thanks to Alex Levine for posting this;
someday our harried sysadmin will have enough fires put out to be able to
spend time fixing news. ..bruce..
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-----
Bruce F. Webster | The thought that life could be better
CTO, Pages Software Inc | Is woven indelibly
bwebster@pages.com | Into our hearts and our brains.
#import <pages/disclaimer.h> | -- Paul Simon, "Train in the
Distance"
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From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Boot From Alpha?
Keywords: net boot
Message-ID: <10560@cg-atla.UUCP>
Date: 21 Mar 94 13:55:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA
I know that there was an article posted eons ago
on how to boot a cube from the network using a
SUN workstation. I have a friend with a recently
aquired '030 cube, and he also has a DEC alpha
running Ultrix.
Has anybody done this? Could somebody point me
to the original article (for the SUN) ?
-peter
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==> Adobe Registered Developer <==
From: uzi@church.cse.ogi.edu (Uzi Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Texview binaries for 486
Date: 24 Mar 1994 02:36:35 GMT
Organization: Oregon Grad. Inst. Computer Science and Eng., Beaverton
Message-ID: <2mqubj$8ea@reuter.cse.ogi.edu>
Any pointers will be much appreciated.
-Uzi Levin
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <Mar.21.14.19.39.1994.15582@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 21 Mar 94 19:19:39 GMT
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <BYER.94Mar14105839@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> <Mar.18.13.58.19.1994.4297@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <jeffo.764034670@uiuc.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>I don't understand how it's alright for the programmer to essentially
>stick their nose in my documents, telling me what's "typographically
>okay" on a DTP program but then say it's somehow not acceptable for
>the programmer to do the same in a word processing program. What is
>the significant difference?
>--
Well, I guess the difference might be that I don't know how to lay out a page
too well, and if the DTP program guides me along...well then to me thats good.
I think that is what Pages does. But I agree with you (i think) in that I
like to have all the functionality and the final say on how my page is to look.
Later, John
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 24 Mar 1994 07:45:20 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Message-ID: <2mrgeg$onr@news.iastate.edu>
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <Mar.18.13.58.19.1994.4297@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <jeffo.764034670@uiuc.edu> <Mar.21.14.19.39.1994.15582@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
With so many reviews on WriteUp come out, looks like I should have
received WriteUp too. But, NO!!! I still haven't received it yet.
Could someone tell me how to contact AFS?
Am I the only one who still didn't receive WriteUp yet?
Thanks!
Chris
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: izumi@mindseye.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages: -- Timebomb?
Date: 24 Mar 1994 11:01:58 GMT
Organization: Univ. of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mrrv6$bvc@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2mqod2$25u@network.ucsd.edu>
In article <2mqod2$25u@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes:
>The following comes from Bruce Webster (bwebster@pages.com). I'm just the
> a) Our Director of Quality does not have the resources to post and
>maintain quality and version synchronization of archived copies. He runs
>a professional SQA organization and maintains tight control over
>versioning, configuration, etc. Our timebomb mechanism involves a separate
>licensing app which would need to be updated on a regular basis.
Bruce,
Could you clarify this timebomb and the need for regular updates?
Are all licenses timebombed, even the real fully paid versions?
The $14.95 demo version should natually be timebombed, and is
a far better way than some other form of crippling an app.
But, I hate to have any app with full license stop working
after some period.
Wouldn't it be enough to put up an alert panel that says:
"The app hasn't been maintained for over a year. Contact
Pages for the latest version.", if you just want everyone
to be up to date?
Thanks.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $BBg_78^=;(B ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail OK)
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (long)
Date: 24 Mar 1994 11:12:45 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <2mrsjd$a23@news.tamu.edu>
References: <2mqod2$25u@network.ucsd.edu>
In article <2mqod2$25u@network.ucsd.edu>, <alevine@ucsd.edu> wrote,
in behalf of Bruce Webster (bwebster@pages.com):
> 11) Is it true that the Pages engineering team sent your office manager's
> stuffed green dragon all the way around the world?
>
> Closer to two times around, actually, and we have the pictures to prove
> it. Also, the large photo in our front lobby of the entire Blue Angels (US
> Navy) precision flying team, in uniform, posing in front of their planes
> with the dragon is genuine and unretouched.
Now we know why it took so long for Pages to ship. The engineers
were too busy hauling a stuffed green dragon around the world
twice.
Lusty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Epson GT6500 Scanners
Message-ID: <1994Mar23.130729.4460@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 13:07:29 GMT
I think eXTRAScan (or some capitalisation thereof) supports this family of
Epson scanners, but I'm not sure. Can anyone confirm it? Is there any other
scanner software that can do the same?
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: neuwirth@ophelia.tuwien.ac.at (K. Neuwirth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is the spreadsheet Mesa any good?
Date: 24 Mar 1994 13:45:06 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2ms5h2$f06@email.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <Cn1nAo.7u@ecf.toronto.edu>
Craig Rodrigues (rodrigc@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote:
: I have received information that a spreadsheet called Mesa is
: being ported to an operating system that I use (not NextStep).
: The company which makes this spreadsheet, Athena, claims that
: this spreadsheet is the number 1 selling Next spreadsheet.
: Since I have no experience with Next, I can't confirm this.
I assume that the fact that it is the best-selling spreadsheet on the
NeXT is probably true, as I know of no other commercial spreadsheet that
still is being distributed. I have recently baught it and am quite satisfied
with it, I have to say that. It can do most everything you expect from
a spreadsheet, but a few things are missing if you compare it to Excel 5.
It does offer a point and click functionality for building formulas, even
if that is only available with the mouse (although there may be weird
keyboard combinations, I have not yet fully read the manual). It has some
macro capabilities, lotus help, a gadzillion graphic types and a very, very
good programmer interface with good documentation. Addins are just starting
to crop up, there already is one to Mathematica.
I have just done my taxes with it and am rather satisfied. it is one
of the products that jstu work as one expects.
: Can anyone tell me if the claims that this company makes are true, and
: if Mesa if a good spreadsheet?
Personally, I'd say that it is a quite good spreadsheet but does not
yet measure up to Excel 5 (but that is hard). Still, if you need a
spreadsheet, I would not hesitate recommending it, especially for the
educational discount.
On the other hand, i have had no luck so far compiling Oleo 1.5 on
the next. Are there binaries available so that one could compare?
Thanks,
Konrad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: SoftPC 3.0 security hole
Message-ID: <Cn4tFB.n2F@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 19:13:58 GMT
Besides SoftPC (on the NeXTStep User CD) having major bugs keeping
from running Windows most of the time, SoftPC runs setuid root. It
happily leaves setuid on, allowing the user to actually be root. I had
a user create a Windows hdf file in their home directory, which turned
out to be root's home! If the user sets the FSA drive to /, imagine
all the trouble they could cause.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: : Pages review
Message-ID: <1994Mar23.230259.16641@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <17997@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 23:02:59 GMT
In article <17997@blue.cis.pitt.edu> haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland)
writes:
* In article <2mb8ct$9a1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L.
Anathea Brooks) writes:
* >I've just used Pages for about 4 hours now. It's
* >stupendous. Fast and solid. Very weird. I have
* >to completely revise a lot of ideas about text
* >formatting, however, and it seems a bit Draconian
* >in imposing styles on me.
* It's this "Draconian" bit that scares me. I couldn't stand
* a text processor that wouldn't permit me to do good old
* fashioned formatting to my heart's content -- choosing my
* own fonts, leading, margins, paragraph styles, and such
* like.
It's not clear whether Pages is intended as a ``text processor'',
or what I like to think of as a ``Long Document Formatter''. My
personal understanding is that Pages is intended as a ``Long Document
Formatter'' somewhat loosely modelled after Scribe. Perhaps Bruce
or somebody else at Pages can elucidate.
If Pages is intended as a ``text processor'', the Draconian adjective
may well be fairly applied, although maybe ``Procrustean'' might
be the adjective everybody's groping for.
If Pages is a ``Long Document Formatter'', aimed at the corporate
publishing arena in competition to FramerLeaf and Friends, then,
from the viewpoint of the person running a corporate publishing
department, the rigidity of the design models is a Good Thing.
If you're running Technical Publications in a company, the last
thing you want is every technical writer ``formatting to their
heart's content -- choosing their own fonts, leading, margins,
paragraph styles, and such like'', to use your quote from above.
Imagine you bought a software system which came with, say, six
manuals, all different shapes, sizes, fonts, margins, leading,
layout, and so on. Would you wonder what their Technical Publications
group were up to? Would you conclude they didn't appear to have
their corporate act together?
* If a "breakthrough" product wants to add something
* more to that -- the option to rely on a higher level of
* abstraction, predefined sets of integrated styles, and such
* like, that's all well and good.
* But the idea that, in exchange for these nifty new features,
* I have to forfeit my own aesthetic sense and responsibility,
* and knuckle under to the prior decisions of some "expert"
* whom I never met, don't know, and can't talk back to --
* that's intolerable.
If I'm ever again sentenced to run a Technical Publications
department, I would welcome a rigid model like Pages. Actually,
if you even write a book for a publisher -- I've done four -- the
publisher's ``experts'' usually dictate the book design to you and
you have little if any flexibility to deviate from the model.
Granted, some of the so called ``experts'' appear to have learned
their book design skills from ``Book Design for Blockheads'', but
the principle still applies.
* Now it may be that I'm overreacting (out of ignorance).
* Maybe Pages is liberating and helpful without being a
* stifling straightjacket. But if that's so, then the product
* needs to be better explained. Right now, it sounds like
* "page design police", and I wouldn't touch it for free!
A famous artist [I'm trying to track the precise quote] said
something like, ``The most creative art is done within the most
rigid frameworks''. This applies equally well to book design and
writing.
I've seen many so called ``Technical'' so called ``Writers'' decide
they knew more about book design than the book designers, and spend
their time fiddling with placement of text instead of concentrating
on content of text. Next time you throw yet another lousy user
manual across the room in disgust, consider the so called ``Technical''
so called ``Writer'' might have been chafing against the page design
police instead of getting you the information you wanted.
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (long)
Message-ID: <1994Mar24.155728.1133@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <2mqod2$25u@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:57:28 GMT
NO EMACS KEY BINDINGS? HERETIC!!!!!
Actually, I'd REALLY like to see key bindings in Pages. I miss 'em
whenever I use an app that lacks 'em. C'mon. Please?
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster
Date: 24 Mar 1994 11:42:45 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403241739.AA00299@cantina.lanl.gov>
Bruce Webster posted (through Alex Levine):
> However, we will probably never support Emacs key bindings. ;-)
Aw, gee, Bruce! Can you reconsider that one? (Put it deep into the Expert
Preferences, if you wish.)
> Dick Silber's report notwithstanding, superscript and subscript have
_always_ been in the feature set.
Good! As chairman of the LANUG, I felt kinda bad about the hard time we gave
your sales rep on that. And, good that you got a copy of what I posted; I've
been meaning to send you a copy and haven't quite been able to remember to do so
by the time I get to my mail machine.
(I guess you can read news but not follow-up? You could instead send mail to
comp-sys-next-software@cs.utexas.edu, as I'm doing with this posting.)
> cross references ... documentation (the manual was completed a year ago)
Very nice manual. Is it done using a Design Module different from what comes in
the App? How DID you do the index and TOC there?
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
NeXTMail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Internet Collaboration Software
Date: 24 Mar 1994 17:28:00 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <2msij0$hav@godot.cc.duq.edu>
Anyone know of any packages similar to the FSGroupWare offereings for doing
group collaboration on a Local Area Net as well as over the Internet. (where
bandwidth permits of course).
I'm thinking of things like codex quality audio over the net. Common
Scratch Pads (which is a piece of FSGroupWare) and the like.
Thanks in advance for any info!
--Jason Brown
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ATI 68800 AX Video adaptor
Date: 24 Mar 1994 12:25:07 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403241717.AA02564@proxima.com>
Has anyone had any success with this card for PCI-based systems? NeXT has
pushed back their planned release date of the official driver until late April
at best. Success specifically related to the Intel Premiere onboard version is
what I am looking for, but any information could be helpful.
We have a client who wants ~70 of these, but without the driver, the system is
useless.
Thanks for any info.
--
Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661
Systems Engineer McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
From: evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu (jeffrey d evans)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 24 Mar 1994 13:23:22 -0500
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu>
Hi all,
I will be in the position to recomend a Pentium machine to purchase and had a
few questions about the few PCI cards out there.
What high performance graphics cards are there for the PCI local bus that are
out and have decent support for them. I want to keep all my options open as
far as operating systems go(OS/2, Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD...). I also
want to atleast a 1280x1024 256 colors 72hz noninterlaced top resolution and
display rate(I will consider others though).
here's the info I have so far :
Matrox 64 bit
-been out a while
-says supports os/2
-display rates?
-features?
ATI Graphics Pro turbo (64bit)
-just started seeing ads
-good vga support(better than Matrox)
-anyone shipping them?
-will the mach32 Xfree86 server work?
-display rates?
-features?
ATI Graphics ultra pro (32 bit)
-been out for a while
-slower than all new 64 bit cards
Viper
-Xfree support yet?
-bad vga performance
As for the SCSI PCI cards, I'm looking for Fast SCSI2 support for OS/2,
Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD(...). I've seen many manufacturers advertising
PCI bus SCSI cards, but they don't say who makes them or what operating systems
they support.
Any and all suggetstions welcome.
Jeff Evans
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Evans - evans@fubar.cl.msu.edu
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From: hohndel@physics.su.oz.au (Dirk Hohndel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Date: 24 Mar 1994 18:59:51 GMT
Organization: The XFree86 Project, Inc.
Message-ID: <2msnv7$7hg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu>
jeffrey d evans (evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu) wrote:
: Matrox 64 bit
: -been out a while
: -says supports os/2
: -display rates?
: -features?
No support in XFree86[tm]. Not today, and most likely never
: ATI Graphics Pro turbo (64bit)
: -just started seeing ads
: -good vga support(better than Matrox)
: -anyone shipping them?
: -will the mach32 Xfree86 server work?
: -display rates?
: -features?
said to be very buggy and far from delivery
: ATI Graphics ultra pro (32 bit)
: -been out for a while
: -slower than all new 64 bit cards
: Viper
: -Xfree support yet?
: -bad vga performance
No XFree86 support anytime soon
You are missing the new Vision[89]64 chips from S3 that are available now
and should be supported by XFree86 rather soon.
Dirk
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From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compiling tcsh-6.04 under 3.2
Date: 24 Mar 1994 19:00:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Mar24110034@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
We jsy got some Intel machines so I need to compile a bunch of
utilities that I haven't compiled for a couple of NeXTstep releases,
among them tcsh-6.04. It used to compile just fine, but no longer.
This is of course no surprise given the perpetual header migration,
but I have a hard time believing no one compiled tcsh since 3.0. So
what is the secret?
I am sorry if this has been frequently asked -- I just haven't been
paying attention.
Thanks,
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.next.software
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Subject: image processing platform advice
Message-ID: <1994Mar24.180513.5394@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Keywords: ppc vs 486 vs sgi cost
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:05:13 GMT
hi,
i need your advice on image processing on a *low* level desk top platform
with most peripheals.
my wife and i are considering the mac 7100av ppc or a reasonably equipped
486 machine. i understand the silicon graphics is the nice alternative,
but the extras needed to make the 5k desktop worthwhile takes it closer to
15k.
my wife is a historian and would use the desktop to manipulate 15th
century documents--she has 90 rolls of undeveloped film. For example, she
could develop this to kodak cd rom. Load the images into the appropriate
document and manipulate the images in whatever way to make them readable.
(Is Adobe Photoshop the appropriate software?). Too, she would scan
images from photocopied documents into hard disk. btw, i am a physics
grad student, would enjoy a reasonable platform at home and have sense
enough to crawl to the net community for good advice :)
the apple ppc sounds like a good vehicle because of the floating point
processing speed, i.e. scream through image redraws. another interesting
feature is that apple has handwriting recognition for the newton. i would
guess that handwriting recognition would move quickly to apple's desktops.
this would also be fortuitous for my wife's scholarship--damn 15th century
people weren't using appropriate fonts for ocr's :) bennies are that
ethernet and video capabilities are standard but should one wait the
*requisite* 6 months on buying a new product. besides bus system is
expected to change soon--firewire will be faster.
a 486 machine may be cheaper, but the cost of peripheals and software may
balance out the price differential between the apple ppc and a reliable
486 system, e.g. adding video or ethernet cards. too, windows software
doesn't seem that great. i am also interested in NeXTStep486 on the 486
and image software that would run on that os. is NeXTStep486 fated a
similar end as the NeXT hardware--great but little commercial support.
i guess the bottom line is that we'd like to get a desktop with nice
monitor, keyboard, 500M or 1G hardisk, scanner, laser printer, cd rom and
the requisite ram, vram & sound such that the machine is a good
multi-media platform for about 7k.
i think the only discriminator at this level is taste for platform but am
concerned that there is a serious pratfall i am not considering, e.g.
little anticipated commercial support, hardware bugs, or seriously clunky
software.
thanks very much for your advice and if possible would you email me
directly.
brendan mcdougall
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Message-ID: <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>
From: michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon)
Date: 24 Mar 94 19:38:48 GMT
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu>
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
In <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu (jeffrey d evans) writes:
> I will be in the position to recomend a Pentium machine to purchase and had a
>few questions about the few PCI cards out there.
>
> What high performance graphics cards are there for the PCI local bus that are
>out and have decent support for them. I want to keep all my options open as
>far as operating systems go(OS/2, Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD...). I also
>want to atleast a 1280x1024 256 colors 72hz noninterlaced top resolution and
>display rate(I will consider others though).
> here's the info I have so far :
I don't know if anyone has used a true PCI bus card with XFree86 yet,
but the chances are that it has been attempted.
> Matrox 64 bit
Matrox is not supported in XFree86, and rumors are that it never will
be (unless you write all the drivers). I don't think Matrox wants
their driver code public.
> ATI Graphics Pro turbo (64bit)
I don't know of anyone who has this. It might work with XFree86
Mach32, but then again it might now. Who knows? :-)
> ATI Graphics ultra pro (32 bit)
This seems to be a very popular card and has good XFree86 support.
> -slower than all new 64 bit cards
Yes, but still a very fast card
> Viper
Do NOT buy ANY Diamond products! They are not and will never be
supported by XFree86 (although a few adventerous souls have gotten
them to limp along at times). Diamond will not allow their drivers to
be public and doesn't care at all that this may cost them a sale
because you run a free "unix". They are quite indifferent to the
pleas of free "unix" users.
> As for the SCSI PCI cards, I'm looking for Fast SCSI2 support for OS/2,
>Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD(...). I've seen many manufacturers advertising
>PCI bus SCSI cards, but they don't say who makes them or what operating systems
>they support.
I don't know of anyone who's tried the PCI bus version yet, but all
the other bus versions work: I recommend BusLogic. Their PCI card is
the bt946c. I run an EISA bus bt747s and it's a great card.
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Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free Un*x for PC/Mac/Amiga/etc.
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From: mark@azalea.cs.odu.edu (Mark Imbriaco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXPGP -- Problem.
Date: 24 Mar 1994 21:14:29 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MARK.94Mar24161430@azalea.cs.odu.edu>
I seem to be having a problem with NXPGP, and as such, I thought I would see if
anyone in here could shed a little insight. As far as I can tell all of my
paths and settings are correct, and the pgp binary is installed on the system,
but for some unknonwn reason NONE of the services work, and there are no
clues as to why not. (ie: No console messages, and nothing in the pgp status
window of NXPGP.) Since I can't figure this out, here's my question:
What directory should the pgp binary be installed in?
Does it matter where my config.txt and keyrings are as long as the PGP Path is
set correctly?
Thanks in advance.. Feel free to either followup or send me email directly,
since I read them both almost as frequently. :-)
--
---
Mark Imbriaco
mark@cs.odu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.apl
From: chwastyk@jordan.nrl.navy.mil (Tom Chwastyk)
Subject: Mouse freezes after GONEXT on Intel
Message-ID: <Cn6xJ7.EH3@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:37:54 GMT
I have a 32-bit Windows application (Manugistics APL*PLUS III) that will
not run under SoftPC, so I wind up logging out, restarting in DOS, and
running in a 115MB ms_dos_6.0 partition on a 1.2GB drive. All is fine
until I end my Windows session and try to GONEXT at the dos prompt. I
get back to the NS login screen, but the mouse is frozen. I can log in
(no mouse needed) and log back out (command q), but nothing else. In
particular, I couldn't even get NS to agree I could power down; I may
have screwed up some files by powering down to come back up in DOS.
Any thoughts as to how to fix this? The application uses the WIN32S
extender, if that's relevant. The pc is an OmegaByte 66 MHz 486.
Thanks in advance - hope to hear for someone wiser than I about NEXTSTEP.
--
Tom Chwastyk Naval Research Laboratory, Washington DC
From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP! Diagram!=> EPS ?
Date: 24 Mar 1994 21:15:57 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2msvud$3c7@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi..
I need help!!!.. I want to export Diagram format to EPS format.(not PS)
How can i do it? any utility or tricks there?
I can not find any command from menu of Diagram! ( Do I miss it?)
<Soonam>
Thank you in advance.
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 24 Mar 1994 23:03:12 GMT
Organization: the Borg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mt67g$qk@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
References: <2mq43q$98p@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <2mq43q$98p@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess
Anderson) writes:
> In article <2mpvip$1pf@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>,
> Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> wrote:
>
> >RBrowser
> >--------
> >Remote Browser (RBrowser) provides access to files on remote UNIX [...]
>
> This is a real neat product, no, make that Real Neat Product.
> Had no trouble connecting to an Ultrix machine or to a Sun.
> Bravo tutti!
>
The only thing I can say is *WOW*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
However, sadly enough it shows some serious flaws in the design of
Workspace.app (as Tiggr -the author of Desktop.app- can beame, right?). But
nevertheless this is a neat replacement of Touch.app!
Congratulations!
Annard
--
Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth.
- Annard Brouwer
annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Summary: Compiling tcsh-6.04 under 3.2
Date: 25 Mar 1994 01:36:38 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Mar24173638@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
The "trick" had already been posted by doko@cs.tu-berlin.de (Matthias
Klose):
Here is a patch ... (configure with config.mach)
diff -c tcsh-6.04/Makefile.std tcsh-6.04.next/Makefile.std
*** tcsh-6.04/Makefile.std Thu Jul 8 06:52:19 1993
--- tcsh-6.04.next/Makefile.std Mon Dec 20 18:13:56 1993
***************
*** 114,120 ****
## LDLAGS. Define something here if you need to
################################################################
LDFLAGS= ## The simplest, suitable for all.
! #LDFLAGS= -s ## Stripped. Takes less space on disk.
#LDFLAGS= -s -n ## Pure executable. Spares paging over
# ## the network for machines with local
# ## swap but external /usr/local/bin .
--- 114,120 ----
## LDLAGS. Define something here if you need to
################################################################
LDFLAGS= ## The simplest, suitable for all.
! LDFLAGS= -s ## Stripped. Takes less space on disk.
#LDFLAGS= -s -n ## Pure executable. Spares paging over
# ## the network for machines with local
# ## swap but external /usr/local/bin .
***************
*** 180,185 ****
--- 180,187 ----
# The -B tells gcc to use /bin/ld. This is to avoid using the gnu ld, which
# on the suns does not know how to make dynamically linked binaries.
CC= gcc -Wall -B/bin/ # -ansi -pedantic
+ #CC= gcc # NeXT 3.x with gcc
+ #CC= cc -arch m68k -arch i386 # NeXT 3.x with native gcc
#CC= gcc -m486 -Wall # Generate code for Intel 486 (linux)
#CC= cc
#CC= occ
diff -c tcsh-6.04/Ported tcsh-6.04.next/Ported
*** tcsh-6.04/Ported Thu Jul 8 06:52:32 1993
--- tcsh-6.04.next/Ported Mon Dec 20 18:17:38 1993
***************
*** 242,255 ****
VENDOR : next
MODELS : any
! COMPILER: cc
! CFLAGS : normal
! LIBES : -ltermcap -lcs
! OS : next os 2.x
CONFIG : config.mach
ENVIRON : n/a
NOTES : n/a
! VERSION : 6.01.00
VENDOR : Heurikon
MODELS : HK68
--- 242,255 ----
VENDOR : next
MODELS : any
! COMPILER: gcc or cc -arch m68k -arch i386
! CFLAGS : -O2 -g
! LIBES : -ltermcap
! OS : next os 3.x
CONFIG : config.mach
ENVIRON : n/a
NOTES : n/a
! VERSION : 6.04.00
VENDOR : Heurikon
MODELS : HK68
*** tcsh-6.04/sh.char.h Thu Jul 8 06:52:54 1993
--- tcsh-6.04.next/sh.char.h Sat Dec 18 19:46:26 1993
***************
*** 37,43 ****
*/
#ifndef _h_sh_char
#define _h_sh_char
! #include <ctype.h>
#ifdef _MINIX
# undef _SP
--- 37,47 ----
*/
#ifndef _h_sh_char
#define _h_sh_char
! #if defined(NeXT) && defined(NLS)
! # include <appkit/NXCType.h>
! #else
! # include <ctype.h>
! #endif
#ifdef _MINIX
# undef _SP
***************
*** 84,89 ****
--- 88,107 ----
#define alnum(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : \
(isalnum((unsigned char) (c)) || (c) == '_'))
#ifdef NLS
+ #ifdef NeXT
+ # define Isspace(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsSpace((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Isdigit(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsDigit((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Isalpha(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsAlpha((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Islower(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsLower((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Isupper(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsUpper((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Tolower(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXToLower((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Toupper(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXToUpper((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Isxdigit(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsXDigit((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Isalnum(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsAlNum((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Iscntrl(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsCntrl((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Isprint(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsPrint((unsigned) (c)))
+ # define Ispunct(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : NXIsPunct((unsigned) (c)))
+ #else /* !NeXT */
# define Isspace(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : isspace((unsigned char) (c)))
# define Isdigit(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : isdigit((unsigned char) (c)))
# define Isalpha(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : isalpha((unsigned char) (c)))
***************
*** 96,101 ****
--- 114,120 ----
# define Iscntrl(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : iscntrl((unsigned char) (c)))
# define Isprint(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : isprint((unsigned char) (c)))
# define Ispunct(c) (((Char)(c) & QUOTE) ? 0 : ispunct((unsigned char) (c)))
+ #endif /* !NeXT */
#else
# define Isspace(c) cmap(c, _SP|_NL)
# define Isdigit(c) cmap(c, _DIG)
diff -c tcsh-6.04/sh.types.h tcsh-6.04.next/sh.types.h
*** tcsh-6.04/sh.types.h Thu Jul 8 06:53:05 1993
--- tcsh-6.04.next/sh.types.h Sat Dec 18 18:44:43 1993
***************
*** 84,90 ****
--- 84,92 ----
# define __sys_stdtypes_h
# ifndef __lucid
typedef int pid_t;
+ # ifndef NeXT
typedef unsigned int speed_t;
+ # endif
# endif
# endif /* __sys_stdtypes.h */
# ifndef _PID_T
***************
*** 529,535 ****
--- 531,539 ----
# ifndef _SPEED_T
# define _SPEED_T
+ # ifndef NeXT
typedef unsigned int speed_t;
+ # endif
# endif /* _SPEED_T */
# ifndef _PTR_T
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 25 Mar 1994 01:17:45 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mte3p$sk3@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <2mt67g$qk@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
In article <2mt67g$qk@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl
(Annard Brouwer) writes:
> In article <2mq43q$98p@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess
> Anderson) writes:
> > In article <2mpvip$1pf@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>,
> > Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >RBrowser
> > >--------
> > >Remote Browser (RBrowser) provides access to files on remote UNIX [...]
> >
> > This is a real neat product, no, make that Real Neat Product.
> > Had no trouble connecting to an Ultrix machine or to a Sun.
> > Bravo tutti!
> >
> The only thing I can say is *WOW*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> However, sadly enough it shows some serious flaws in the design of
> Workspace.app (as Tiggr -the author of Desktop.app- can beame, right?). But
> nevertheless this is a neat replacement of Touch.app!
>
> Congratulations!
> Annard
It's almost a replacement for Touch.app. I'd like to see RBrowser use the ftp
protocol so I can connect to ftp sites like cs.orst.edu. Then RBrowser would
replace Touch.app and GatorFTP1.4 and exceed them many times over. It's a
great start for a v0.9 application.
I do miss some Workspace Manager threading that RBrowser does not have. For
instance, copy and move operations have to wait for completion. Hopefully
those operations can get threaded and listed in the process inspector in the
next realease of RBrowser. :^)
I did have problems with a large directory that contained 1897 subdirectories.
I guess RBrowser needs the Large File System option. Unfortunately, that
directory was between the root directory and my home directory and I never did
get in.
Otherwise, it was a great experience!
- Tim -
--------------------------------------------------------------
Tim Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu
Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270
Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064
NeXTmail ok!
From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 25 Mar 1994 02:07:32 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <2mth14$ai5@lace.Colorado.EDU>
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu>
In article <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu>,
jeffrey d evans <evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
> I will be in the position to recomend a Pentium machine to purchase and had a
>few questions about the few PCI cards out there.
>
> What high performance graphics cards are there for the PCI local bus that are
>out and have decent support for them. I want to keep all my options open as
>far as operating systems go(OS/2, Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD...). I also
>want to atleast a 1280x1024 256 colors 72hz noninterlaced top resolution and
>display rate(I will consider others though).
>
> As for the SCSI PCI cards, I'm looking for Fast SCSI2 support for OS/2,
>Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD(...). I've seen many manufacturers advertising
>PCI bus SCSI cards, but they don't say who makes them or what operating systems
>they support.
>
Currently, your only PCI SCSI option that stands a chance of working is
the Buslogic 946. It purports to be Adaptec 1540 compatable, like the
EISA/VESA/ISA boards in the series.
I'm working on getting the Linux NCR53c810 driver stable, some one else
is doing the same thing for one of the BSD flavors. Fast busmaster,
often included on mother board implementations, supposedly available
for $100 in card for sans BIOS (many of the PCI boards that don't
include the NCR onboard still have the NCR BIOS). This covers the
majority of PCI SCSI adapters on the market (Nexstor, Chaintech,
Gigabyte, FIC, etc).
Adaptec is shipping a FAST WIDE version of the AIC-7770 with a
PCI interface, AIR is using it on their Pentium boards, but
I haven't seen any board level product with it. Scott Ferris
is working on the AIC-7770 driver under Linux, but I don't
know of anyone doing the same thing under one of the BSDs.
Emulux has a propriety FAST+WIDE PCI controller, it's unlikely that
it will show up as supported under one of the BSDs or Linux anytime
soon since the NCR based controllers are cheaper and more prevalant
(even included on many mainboards which don't have a real price difference
versus non SCSI equipped boards) and the Buslogic controllers are compatable
with the 1540 so I doubt anyone will buy them.
Forex is shipping a PCI SCSI adapter, I don't have details.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 25 Mar 1994 03:00:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mtk3u$rrq@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2mte3p$sk3@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
In article <2mte3p$sk3@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> writes:
>In article <2mt67g$qk@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl
>(Annard Brouwer) writes:
>> In article <2mq43q$98p@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess
>> Anderson) writes:
>> > In article <2mpvip$1pf@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>,
>> > Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > >RBrowser
>> > >--------
>> > >Remote Browser (RBrowser) provides access to files on remote UNIX [...]
>> >
>> > This is a real neat product, no, make that Real Neat Product.
>> > Had no trouble connecting to an Ultrix machine or to a Sun.
>> > Bravo tutti!
>> >
>> The only thing I can say is *WOW*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>It's almost a replacement for Touch.app.
I agree, and here's a tip that might help those with both Moto
and Intel NS machines networked.
Since RBrowser is a FAT app, and wants to use a patched version
of Edit.app. It is really convenient to produce a patched FAT
Edit.app and put in /LocalApps, so both Intel and Moto boxes can
get to the executable via the same path (for placeing on the Dock).
Patch binaries for each arch, and do:
% lipo Edit.i386 Edit.m68k -create -output Edit
It works.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP! Diagram!=> EPS ?
Date: 24 Mar 1994 23:51:32 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2mt924$5kh@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <2msvud$3c7@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Soonam Kahng (skahng@mason1.gmu.edu) wrote:
: Hi..
: I need help!!!.. I want to export Diagram format to EPS format.(not PS)
: How can i do it? any utility or tricks there?
: I can not find any command from menu of Diagram! ( Do I miss it?)
: <Soonam>
: Thank you in advance.
I found how to do it. It is on menu :)
"Save to"
<Soonam>
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Bus Logic 445S Driver needed
Date: 25 Mar 1994 04:28:29 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2mtp9d$b42@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Could someone NeXTMail to me the driver for the
Bus Logic 445S SCSI adapter - or tell me the ftp
site where I can download it.
Thanks in advance
Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rburns@netcom.com (Randall J. Burns)
Subject: Database for NextStep
Message-ID: <rburnsCn7E94.HyB@netcom.com>
Keywords: databases
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 04:39:04 GMT
Does anyone have comments on Gupta's database vs. Interbase
for NextStep/Intel? Does anyone have an idea if an when
SQL Server from Sybase will be available for NextStep/Intel?
Thanks!
From: paulk@mindvox.phantom.com (Paul Kerrios)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 00:33:02 EST
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RLaqJc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
References: <jeffo.764034188@uiuc.edu>
Originator: paulk@mindvox
jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Mike Matthews writes:
>
> >It's got its flaws but IT IS USEABLE.
>
> Usable, in that it won't crash? That's good, but I have higher
> standards than a program that simply won't crash. I guess we have
> differing ideas of what is useful. I don't consider a product that
> has no footnotes/endnotes or underline useful. I can not do what I
> need to do without them, no exceptions. It sounds like it has
> potential, but it doesn't sound like it would be able to handle any of
> the documents I'd use even WriteNow/NS on.
I'm not that sure how important all of this is, WriteNow is what it
advertises itself as, a very simple and basic word processor. I
personally don't see enough of a difference between a simple word
processor and a complex text editor, like edit, which is more then
sufficient for simple purposes. If your needs range to the more complex
and you require more complete functionality, then nothing I've seen
stands up against comparision to Pages. I'm not sure what niche WriteNow
is supposed to fill, unless it was the "There's no word processor except
for edit" niche, which has ceased to exist since Pages was released.
With the release of Pages and soon Virtouso, no one using NeXTSTEP has a
reason to complain for lack of excellent Desktop publishing, word
processing or layout tools.
If you have complaints, perhaps you're just looking at the wrong programs
for the purpose you have in mind.
//=======================================\\
Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\
\=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/
\\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======//
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 25 Mar 1994 07:48:02 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mu4viINNl3f@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <RLaqJc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
In article <RLaqJc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> paulk@mindvox.phantom.com
(Paul Kerrios) writes:
>I'm not that sure how important all of this is, WriteNow is what it
>advertises itself as, a very simple and basic word processor. I
>personally don't see enough of a difference between a simple word
>processor and a complex text editor, like edit, which is more then
>sufficient for simple purposes. If your needs range to the more complex
>and you require more complete functionality, then nothing I've seen
>stands up against comparision to Pages. I'm not sure what niche WriteNow
>is supposed to fill, unless it was the "There's no word processor except
>for edit" niche, which has ceased to exist since Pages was released.
>
>With the release of Pages and soon Virtouso, no one using NeXTSTEP has a
>reason to complain for lack of excellent Desktop publishing, word
>processing or layout tools.
>
>If you have complaints, perhaps you're just looking at the wrong programs
>for the purpose you have in mind.
>
>
>
> //=======================================\\
>Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\
> \=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/
> \\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======//
>
Disclaimer: I own WriteNow, Executor/MSW, WriteUp, but not Pages, so judge
my comments with that fact in mind.
First, I assume you mean WriteUp not WriteNow?!
In any case, here is why I see a need for both Pages and WriteUp:
WriteNow is not supported anymore.
WordPerfect is not supported anymore.
Executor/MSW crashes too much for my own taste.
FrameMaker on the NeXT is not supported anymore.
I don't consider Edit a word processor. I can not write
a 15 page paper with figures and endnotes with it.
I do see a difference between a complex text editor and a
simple wp.
Pages is *expensive* and probably (based on reviews not
actual experience) an overkill for basic word processing
tasks.
In their current releases, both Pages and WriteUp lack
fairly obvious features (Pages: Table of Contents, for
book productions, this is CRUCIAL, WriteUp: footnotes,
multiple columns). These will probably be included
in future versions. However, Pages will always be more
expensive than WriteUp and you might need to purchase
additional Design Models or the Designer Toolkit to
design your own (thus, more money).
So, I believe it is VERY important to have
a simple, affordable word processor that can satisfy
an academic's need to write a letter, 15 page paper, 200 page
dissertation etc. I hope WriteUp will be that wp.
For more demanding writers that compose books, technical
reports, company documents, fancy graphic brochures and manuals Pages is
or will be probably excellent.
I think the difference between Pages and what-I-hope-
WriteUp-will-soon-be is similar to the difference between
PageMaker or FrameMaker and Microsoft Word on the Mac. Don't flame
me on MS-Word, I have seen about two dozen dissertations
successfully produced with it. I still can not find
the right software to write my dissertation with on the
NeXT. Everyone at the lab here thinks I should give up
and use a Mac to do my dissertation (my pride and
stubbornness prevent me!) Plus, I paid, partially
supported by the College, nearly 5,000 for my NeXT. I can't
let that go down the drain without getting some use out of it.
If the Mac market can tolerate several word processors,
I am sure the NeXT market can handle two after such a long
drought.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: On vacation for a week
Date: 25 Mar 1994 02:14:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403250603.AA26200@pages.com>
Here's hoping that this works (and thanks to Dick Silbar if it does)....
Many thanks for the many e-mail responses we've gotten both to my
postings on the net and to the release of Pages itself. I'm
going to be on vacation until 4 April, so if you send me e-mail,
you might not get a response for a few days. I will probably
check my e-mail once or twice next week just to keep it from
getting too full; if there's a delay in my reply, please understand
why. ..bruce..
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce F. Webster | C++ is the best example of second-system
CTO, Pages Software Inc | effect since OS/360.
bwebster@pages.com | -- Henry Spencer
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 25 Mar 1994 09:17:05 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2mua6h$d5l@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2mph50$3j0@jake.micromuse.co.uk> <2mpt31$flc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <2mpt31$flc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com
(Art Isbell) writes:
> Gosh, what an app!! When are we going to learn more? (Probably when
>EPS awakens, but his hours may be somewhat different than your hours :-)
Oh, if you only knew ... let's just say I spent about a day and a
half bedridden with the flu and probably shouldn't have been
posting anything in my semi-coherent state. Other than that, I've
been busy at Uniforum.
RBrowser had its roots in a conversation last May. Robert
needed to use some licensed software that only ran on a VAX
Ultrix system, but much preferred NeXT's Edit.app over the
editors installed on the VAX ... and he was getting pretty
tired of FTPing files back and forth. NFS wasn't an option
since the VAX was under completely different administrative
control (different usernames/uids, etc.). Running something
X based wasn't too attractive either--this VAX is horribly
overloaded/underconfigured (take your pick), and response time
wouldn't be all that great, to say the least.
I suggested making some sort of network server that would run on
the VAX, but he wanted something "serverless." The people who
ran this machine liked to randomly kill off "suspicious"
processes--suspicious meaning anything that wasn't a shell.
So he got the idea to construct a "virtual user"--software that
would generate shell commands "behind the scenes" while the real
user saw a completely different user interface. While he knew
his way around the AppKit pretty well, he wasn't particularly
strong at TCP/IP networking, so he asked me for help. I told him
he would have to be crazy to attempt something like that. "OK.
I'm crazy."
This software would have to work on more than just Ultrix, since
he had accounts on IBM, HP, SGI, and Sun equipment as well.
Unfortunately, Robert didn't quite appreciate just how many
different interpretations "UNIX" has, and it wasn't long before
he realized that this wasn't going to be an easy problem. So he
went to his thesis committee and asked permission to make this
his master's project. Surprisingly, they approved it.
His next "mistake" was in trying to "clone" the Workspace
Manager. Little details, like displaying the amount of free disk
space, turned out to be exceedingly tricky. But after a few
months the question was no longer "how can I duplicate what the
WM does" but "how can I improve upon the WM?" That's where
things really got interesting.
A lot has happened over the past few months. Things got faster
and more memory efficient. More UNIX systems joined the
"supported" list. Several people here at SFSU saw their
suggestions incorporated in the software. Robert's name appears
first on the Info Panel because it was his idea, and he wrote
most of the code. My contributions are in places you don't
see; much of the network code, most of the NXDataLinkManager
stuff, the character translation tables, the Mach messaging,
the signal handling, and many of the algorithms and heuristics
that make it survive "real world" conditions. I also worked very
hard to eliminate unnecessary network activity so it stood a
better chance of being usable over SLIP/PPP connections.
What you see today is an attempt to improve interoperability
between NEXTSTEP and other networked systems. There's still
an awful lot of work ahead. We'd like it to work with
"firewall" software, such as SOCKS. We'd like it to support
Kerberos authentication. We'd like it to thwart Ethernet
tappers. We'd like it to be able to browse things other
than UNIX filesystems--perhaps even things you wouldn't normally
think of as filesystems. And since we don't have to shoehorn
everything into the UNIX way of doing things, all sorts of
opportunities present themselves. (Imagine an AppleShare
client that didn't gratuitously trash resource forks!) And last,
but not least, we want people to use it.
And we want something that's going to make people who don't have
NEXTSTEP wish they did.
Then there's the issue of commercializing it. I think what's
going to happen is pretty much what happened to Eudora: there
will be a free, more or less unsupported version that does
everything 85% of the users ever want, and a fully commercial,
supported version that does a little more, with both continually
maintained and improved.
-=EPS=-
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Metaresearch, Inc
Date: 25 Mar 1994 08:53:53 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2mu8r1INNm25@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Is it Metaresearch, Inc still in business? (Makers of
Digital Ears and Color Digital Eyes). If so, does
any one know if they have an e-mail address?
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: dl@apysoft.oleane.com (Denis Laffont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Touch
Date: 25 Mar 1994 11:20:31 GMT
Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks
Message-ID: <2muhdv$jmr@relay2.oleane.net>
Hello,
I heard about a old NEXT program named "Touch" that enables a ftp session
to look like a "classical" fileviewer under NS.
Does anyone know what happened to this program?
(Nothing with Archie of course....)
Thanks,
Denis
--
Denis Lafont Oleane, French Internet Provider
dl@apysoft.oleane.com 35 Boulevard de la Liberation
Tel:(33-1)43.28.52.52/ 94300 Vincennes-France
From: msander@bcarh63f.bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2mnlvg$mkq@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
Control: cancel <2mnlvg$mkq@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
Date: 23 Mar 1994 13:24:07 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Distribution: bnr
Message-ID: <2mpftn$bvg@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
References: <2mnlvg$mkq@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
From: msander@bcarh63f.bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Thanks for the news leak help
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 25 Mar 1994 14:20:45 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Sender: msander@bcarh63f (Michael Sanderson)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2murvt$8lh@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
Keywords: Thanks
Just a short note to thank all those (you know who you are) that
helped me track down my leaky news server. There were far to many
replies to thank individualy, so I'm posting here. It was
refreshing to see so many people volunteer their help, just one
more indicator that the world has not completely crumbled into
dust. :-)
Thanks!
------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael R. Sanderson a.k.a msander@bnr.ca (NeXT Mail Accepted)
My opinions are my own, which is good 'cause nobody else wants 'em
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Metaresearch, Inc
Date: 25 Mar 1994 14:21:31 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2mus1b$lfe@inxs.concert.net>
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(Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
>
> Is it Metaresearch, Inc still in business? (Makers of
> Digital Ears and Color Digital Eyes). If so, does
> any one know if they have an e-mail address?
> --
Metaresearch now has a product called "SoundWorks"
You may reach them at info@metaresearch.com.
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From: smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger")
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Subject: CAD Program?
Date: 25 Mar 1994 16:48:40 GMT
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I have a customer who is interested in doing architectural drawings on his Turbo Color,
and would like to find a CAD program for this purpose. I understand that CraftMan
may be one option; also Diagram II.
Does anyone know email addresses for these companies, or have feedback about
doing CAD on the NeXT? If so, please send email.
Sam
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Anything Beyond Spellchecker?
Message-ID: <Cn765o.sL@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Keywords: Grammar, Spell, ispell
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:44:12 GMT
I wonder if there is any software available with functionality beyond the capabilities of simple
(?) spell-checking. I am not talking about a better spellchecker than the one NeXT provided -
HSD-spell for one and internationalspell are a step ahead in this field.
What I would really like to have is a grammar correction tool, hyphenation tool, interpunction
support tool - you get the idea. Is there any such program/code available or in the pd?
Are none of you netters interested in this kind of stuff?
It hurts my eyes to see all those lousy (if at all) proof read magazines.
Propably has to be highly interactive software?
Multi language support would be a must.
If there is no such beast, I might like to write it, once I get the time.
Juergen
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From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
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In article <2mu4viINNl3f@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
(Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
[Some other stuff trashed.]
> I think the difference between Pages and what-I-hope-
> WriteUp-will-soon-be is similar to the difference between
> PageMaker or FrameMaker and Microsoft Word on the Mac. Don't flame
> me on MS-Word, I have seen about two dozen dissertations
> successfully produced with it. I still can not find
> the right software to write my dissertation with on the
> NeXT. Everyone at the lab here thinks I should give up
> and use a Mac to do my dissertation (my pride and
> stubbornness prevent me!) Plus, I paid, partially
> supported by the College, nearly 5,000 for my NeXT. I can't
> let that go down the drain without getting some use out of it.
TeX is the way to go. There is even an extensive macro package
at the University of Michigan that makes formatting the document
a piece of cake.
Sorry for the drift....
Jon
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From: vb@ediscope.fdn.org (Vincent Borghi)
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster
Message-ID: <1994Mar25.083531.611@ediscope.fdn.org>
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 08:35:31 GMT
alevine@ucsd.edu writes:
> The following comes from Bruce Webster (bwebster@pages.com). I'm just the
> poster; replies should go to him.
> ---
> [...] However, we will probably never support Emacs key bindings. ;-)
The assertion above sounds naive.
I bet Pages will support Emacs key bindings !
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From: haw30@eng.amdahl.com (Henry A Worth)
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Message-ID: <1994Mar25.175046.28527@ccc.amdahl.com>
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 17:50:46 GMT
In article <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>, michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
|> In <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu (jeffrey d evans) writes:
|>
|>
[...]
|>
|> Matrox is not supported in XFree86, and rumors are that it never will
|> be (unless you write all the drivers). I don't think Matrox wants
|> their driver code public.
|>
[...]
|
|> Do NOT buy ANY Diamond products! They are not and will never be
|> supported by XFree86 (although a few adventerous souls have gotten
|> them to limp along at times). Diamond will not allow their drivers to
|> be public and doesn't care at all that this may cost them a sale
|> because you run a free "unix". They are quite indifferent to the
|> pleas of free "unix" users.
A small point, none of the chip/board vendors provide driver code,
the issue is whether they will provide hardware documentation, without
non-disclosure agreements, that will allow a 3rd party, like the
XFree86[TM] project, write X drivers that can be released to the
public in source form. A few vendors go the extra mile and provide
some tech support, loaner boards, or bits of example code, but such
cooperation is not a pre-req to XFree86 support.
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 18:30:16 GMT
I realize this might sound stupid, but if all you want to do is write
your dissertation on your NeXT, use FrameMaker. It's not being extended,
but of all the NeXT apps I've ever gotten and used (just got Pages
yesterday; I've been in CA, so it's not in the sample set), FrameMaker
*never* crashes on me, I can give the file to my advisor who prefers
a Mac.
I've tried on several occassions to switch, and if I was starting a
company and using NeXTSTEP I certainly wouldn't use FrameMaker (as it's
not a future platform anymore), but if all you want to do is do your
dissertation on top of NeXTSTEP, buy a used copy of FrameMaker from someone
who doesn't use it anymore. It's kinda ugly, but it works really well,
and that scores a lot of points in my book. I really doubt that 3.3 or 3.4 (if
there is one) will break FrameMaker, since it's the same code that ran
under 2.1. It might break under 4.0, but hopefully both of us will have
finished our dissertations by then. :-)
I own or have tried every WP app on the NeXT, and FrameMaker is what I'm
using to do my PhD. Until Pages comes out with the Designer Toolkit, I
don't see changing my mind. That's not to say I don't use these other
apps to write papers, letters, etc., but for my dissertation, I'll stick
with FrameMaker.
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From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
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Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 25 Mar 1994 18:59:27 GMT
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In article <2mu4viINNl3f@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
(Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
>... I still can not find
>the right software to write my dissertation with on the
>NeXT.
Many have pointed out to me that the LaTeX environment on the
NeXT is second to none. Being a programmer, I guess I can
learn LaTeX, but I am thinking of other non-technical
doctoral student: my wife is an architecture history major and
I *know* she will simply refuse to use a WP that does not have
WYSIWYG interface. People are too much used to Macs, hiliting
stuff and setting them to bold etc. I didn't try LaTeX, but I
am assuming it is not like an ordinary WP.
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Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 25 Mar 94 18:53:16 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
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In <1994Mar25.175046.28527@ccc.amdahl.com> haw30@eng.amdahl.com (Henry A Worth) writes:
>In article <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>, michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
>|> Matrox is not supported in XFree86, and rumors are that it never will
>|> be (unless you write all the drivers). I don't think Matrox wants
>|> their driver code public.
>|> Do NOT buy ANY Diamond products! They are not and will never be
>|> supported by XFree86 (although a few adventerous souls have gotten
>|> them to limp along at times). Diamond will not allow their drivers to
>|> be public and doesn't care at all that this may cost them a sale
>|> because you run a free "unix". They are quite indifferent to the
>|> pleas of free "unix" users.
>A small point, none of the chip/board vendors provide driver code,
>the issue is whether they will provide hardware documentation, without
>non-disclosure agreements, that will allow a 3rd party, like the
>XFree86[TM] project, write X drivers that can be released to the
>public in source form.
Right. I didn't mean to imply that any vendor supplied XFree86
drivers. I meant it to read "Diamond won't let you see any source
code that contains low level drivers for their boards, whether the
source code is commercial or was free, unless you pay them for a
non-disclosure license."
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From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
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Subject: Re: CAD Program?
Date: 25 Mar 1994 19:36:19 GMT
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In article <2mv4l8$pgo@nntp.crl.com> smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger")
writes:
> I have a customer who is interested in doing architectural drawings on his
Turbo Color,
> and would like to find a CAD program for this purpose. I understand that
CraftMan
> may be one option; also Diagram II.
>
> Does anyone know email addresses for these companies, or have feedback about
> doing CAD on the NeXT? If so, please send email.
>
> Sam
>
Hi,
Here is previous posting about a CAD application for the NeXT:
- Tim -
ACADEMY is from:
[kju:b] Software
Cube Informations-Systeme GmbH
Stuttgart, Germany
info: info@cube.de or academy@cube.de
To quote from their brochure:
"ACADEMY is a 2D CAD program which extends across many different business
fields through its open and flexible structure. The graphics engine, already in
use on other hardware platforms, was combined with the unique NeXTSTEP
graphical user interface. ACADEMY offers necessary tools for diverse fields
from mechanical and electrical engineering all the way to architecture.
Easy and logical use of a mouse is the credo of ACADEMY. You won't find cryptic
commands, endless parameter lists and time wasting dialogs or complex menu
structures. However, the well designed usage concept still allows precise
numerical inputs, calculation of geometric and construction data and very exact
placement"
That may sound dull, but I think it's hard to describe a program like this
without showing it. ACADEMY was one of the most exciting things I saw at
NeXTworld Expo. It completely blew me away. This program was so amazing, it
reaffirms your faith in NeXTSTEP. My understanding is that it is either
shipping now or within the next few weeks (both NS versions). Price was about
$1,200US.
Another amazing program is ZZ Volume, a 2D/3D design program for architecture
and construction. This $3,000 program, from Ares (Lyon, France; distributed by
Alembic Systems in the US, Englewood Colorado, info@alembic.com) features
interactivity like you wouldn't believe. All elevations are possible, and the
3D views have object placement (walls, windows, floors, furniture, etc.) that's
practically magical in nature. Again, it's got to be seen to be believed.
For 3D (yes, finally!) there was at Expo solidThinking Modeler, from Gestel
Italia (distributed in the US by Alembic Systems), and intuitiv'3d from Cub'x
Systemes (France, intuitiv@cubx.com). Professional level 3D modelers, intended,
it seems, for entertainment/art/design ends (rather than precision CAD). Both
packages will be part of software suites that include animation software and
VTR control. Both modelers are "shipping now" (really I think in a few weeks),
the animation programs to come within the next few months. sTM lists for
$1,400, i'3d for $700. It's a toss up which is cooler. Vastly different
interface, however. sTM is more like a "jet plane cockpit" screen, where a lot
of the controls are always on screen, i'3d has more windows and pop-up type
control boxes. The learning curve on sTM looks a lot steeper. intuitiv'3d lives
up to its name (that's a big understatement; you have probably never seen such
an interactive modeling program, with drag-and-drop everything). Both these
programs use Renderman (of course, of course), but i'3d has a totally cool
feature where you can drag a box around a part of the scene and render just
that part! Maybe sTM has more precise control. Also both programs are intended
to work with ZZ Volume.
All in all, these developments are the best news I've seen on the NeXT front in
quite a while. You know, marketing and business moves are interesting, but it's
nothing compared to actual real tools shipping! Especially when they're the
best you've ever seen.
I'm still "evaluating" these products, and would be happy to enter into
discussion with anyone who wants to talk 3D NeXT. Especially anyone with
high-end 3D modeling-animation experience.
Cheers,
Viva NeXT,
Thierry Castro
tlc@cx5.com
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From: pitts@mimosa.astro.indiana.edu (Jim Pitts)
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 19:44:50 GMT
In article <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>,
Michael L. VanLoon <michaelv@iastate.edu> wrote:
>In <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu (jeffrey d evans) writes:
>
>
>> Viper
>
>Do NOT buy ANY Diamond products! They are not and will never be
>supported by XFree86 (although a few adventerous souls have gotten
>them to limp along at times). Diamond will not allow their drivers to
>be public and doesn't care at all that this may cost them a sale
>because you run a free "unix". They are quite indifferent to the
>pleas of free "unix" users.
>
True, many Diamond cards are not supported under XFree86, although they
-can- be made to work with a little hacking (I run a Diamond SpeedStar 24
at 1024x768 under XFree86 with -0- problems). They are -very- nice cards
and I am very happy with mine. As long as you don't expect instant support
for the card out-of-the-box from XFree86 you will be very happy with it.
These cards do not 'limp' along by any margin. They are excellent products
which are very well build. The trouble is not with the hardware of the
card, it is with the attitude of the company that makes them.
And even this attitude is changing with time. I called Diamond about getting
information on their dot clock programming. They FAXed me the information
the same day, no hassles.
In summary, don't rule out Diamond cards ... but don't expect them to work
about 640x480 out-of-the box without a little effort. A program to set the
dot clock needs to be written (a trivial program) and from that point on
the card will work fine. These cards are better than most and worse than few
of the cards currently out there.
Just to aviod a flame war, I would like to also add that I support the decision
of the XFree86 people to not include Diamond support in their software. I
only hope (but an not holding my breath) that Diamond can change their
tune in time.
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From: rms@netcom.netcom.com (Robert M. Searfus)
Subject: Re: ATI 68800 AX Video adaptor
In-Reply-To: elitman@proxima.com's message of 24 Mar 1994 12:25:07 -0600
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 21:35:11 GMT
I purchased a Pentium P5-66 from Gateway 2000 that included the ATI AX
PCI card. I was only able to get the default VGA driver to work at
first, although I did not try all color modes and refresh rates with
the NeXT supplied ATI driver.
I tried a suggestion posted to the net several weeks ago that involved
changing the memory mapping of the ATI framebuffer in the ATI driver
source provided with the developer's kit. I had to use a different
aperture address (0xa0000000) than that posted (0x40000000) to get the
ATI to come up at all.
The patched driver sorta works in greyscale. Occasionally the whole
system hangs during bitblts so I can't say it works 100%, but the
system is functional enough and hangs infrequent enough that I am
willing to get the extra real-estate at the cost/risk of an unclean
halt.
Color modes using the patched driver do not work correctly. The
screen comes up in color, but updates (such as moving the cursor or
moving a window) cause significant interference, and the system hangs
more frequently than in greyscale. Static color screens look great in
16-bit color.
I haven't ruled out the possibility that I made an error patching the
example ATI driver. Unfortunately the documentation that came with
the ATI card is very sparse on technical details, and I haven't found
a free source of ATI Mach 32 programming information (ATI sells a
programming manual, but I can't justify it if NeXT will release a
supported driver in a couple weeks).
There are apparently others that have modified the example ATI driver
and may have different results.
(bob)
Robert M. Searfus
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: Anything Beyond Spellchecker?
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 20:07:40 GMT
> What I would really like to have is a grammar correction tool,
hyphenation tool, interpunction
> support tool - you get the idea. Is there any such program/code
available or in the pd?
>
> Are none of you netters interested in this kind of stuff?
> It hurts my eyes to see all those lousy (if at all) proof read
magazines.
>
> Propably has to be highly interactive software?
> Multi language support would be a must.
>
> If there is no such beast, I might like to write it, once I get the
time.
>
> Juergen
Yes, its a really good Idea and initiative, and I think particularly
for german users regarding a good hyphenation!!!!!!!!!!
Please write such a tool!
Manfred
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From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <1994Mar25.221539.23813@ornl.gov>
Keywords: FrameMaker
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 22:15:39 GMT
In article <1994Mar25.183016.15906@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> I realize this might sound stupid, but if all you want to do is write
> your dissertation on your NeXT, use FrameMaker. It's not being
extended,
> but of all the NeXT apps I've ever gotten and used (just got Pages
> yesterday; I've been in CA, so it's not in the sample set), FrameMaker
> *never* crashes on me, I can give the file to my advisor who prefers
> a Mac.
>
> I've tried on several occassions to switch, and if I was starting a
> company and using NeXTSTEP I certainly wouldn't use FrameMaker (as it's
> not a future platform anymore), but if all you want to do is do your
> dissertation on top of NeXTSTEP, buy a used copy of FrameMaker from
someone
> who doesn't use it anymore. It's kinda ugly, but it works really well,
> and that scores a lot of points in my book. I really doubt that 3.3 or
3.4 (if
> there is one) will break FrameMaker, since it's the same code that ran
> under 2.1. It might break under 4.0, but hopefully both of us will have
> finished our dissertations by then. :-)
>
> I own or have tried every WP app on the NeXT, and FrameMaker is what I'm
> using to do my PhD. Until Pages comes out with the Designer Toolkit, I
> don't see changing my mind. That's not to say I don't use these other
> apps to write papers, letters, etc., but for my dissertation, I'll stick
> with FrameMaker.
>
>
> --
> --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
> --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
> --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
> --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
I agree completely. I'm a scientist at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory,
I've used FrameMaker for years, and I've found that it satisfies _all_ of
my word processing needs. Version 3.0 should work well for you, Wassim.
Go for it!
Jim
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From: abc@object.com (Alex Cone)
Subject: Re: OTI distributor Germany/Europe
Message-ID: <1994Mar25.192022.1065@object.com>
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 19:20:22 GMT
In article <O35MBG0L@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan
Trebels) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I need to know the german/european distributor of OTI.
> Does anyone have this information?
>
> Thanks, Stephan
> --
> trebelw@theo-phys.gwdg.de
>
Dear Stephan,
Thanks for your interest in OTI's products. Our distributor in Germany is amg.
Their address is Joseph von Fraunhoferstrasse 27, Dortmund, 4600. Their phone
number is: 23 1758920 Their fax number is: 23 1354134.
Please let me know if there is anything else we can do for you.
Kind regards,
Lisa Thaman
Objective Technologies, Inc.
lt@object.com
From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: swapfile questions...
Date: 25 Mar 1994 15:54:34 GMT
Organization: Suite Software
Message-ID: <2mv1fq$esm@bilbo.suite.com>
Ok, I'm sorry I have to ask this. I wasn't paying attention when
these problems were being discussed but I didn't have a problem then.
What I need is a brief explanation of how the NeXT swapfiles work.
What is lowat, hiwat, swapfile, swapfile.front, How do I make them
bigger, smaller, and why. (The information in Digital Librarian is
sketchy to say the least).
Thanks in advance for all replies (even flames, I deserve it!)
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From: night@cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone have a copy NS 3.0 For Black Hardware?
Date: 26 Mar 1994 01:15:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2n02c2$sf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Anyone have a copy of NS 3.0 for a NeXTStation that they would like to sell?
From what I've seen, the cost of the NS 3.0 cd should be somewhere around
$50.00 to $75.00, but I'd be willing to spend a bit more since I'd REALLY
like to upgrade from NS 2.1... :)
Please respond to jlm13@po.cwru.edu or night@b65215.student.cwru.edu
From: kanna@cs.nyu.edu (Kanna Rajan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT websterd<->gopher question
Date: 25 Mar 1994 21:03:51 GMT
Organization: Courant Institute of Math. Sciences, NY NY
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2mvjjn$rd@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>
cc: kanna@cs.nyu.edu
I don't know if this is the right place to post; do excuse if not.
Here's a problem that's been plaguing me for a while.
I'm trying to connect a NeXT running NS 3.0 with a local gopher client,
using the webster deamon code from Indiana Univ. which is known to work
with NS 2.0+. Apparently due to some incompatibility with the Objective C
libraries, I was unable to compile the source, so am running the websterd
on the NeXT with the "pre-packaged" binary. The gopher client sends the
query via a perl script (also running on the NeXT) which talks to the
websterd.
When I use the webster client program (also from Indiana) and talk directly to
the webster port, all is well. All is well too, when I telnet in directly
into the webster deamon's port. However if I query the deamon via the gopher,
the deamon hangs. And when that happens, if I kill ONLY the deamon
I DO get the correct dictionary output (albeit without the format control)
on the client side (whether it be a tty from telnet or the gopher client).
Does anyone have a clue as to what's going on ? Any help/pointers would be
greatly appreciated.
-Kanna Rajan
Courant Institute
NY, NY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: [Q]: Supra Fax Modem with NEXTSTEP 3.0
Message-ID: <Cn92FI.Ln@nexusadmin.com>
Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Nexus Administration
References: <2mktbi$2sv@homer.cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 02:18:53 GMT
Kent TSE writes
!>
!> Hello,
!>
!> I have a Supra Fax Modem which I want to use on my NeXT running 3.0.
!> I have it defined using the PrintManager and it does seem to dial and
!> pick up incoming faxes, but when I try send a fax, the fax machine
!> gets an empty page and the job is still queued up. Similarly, when I
!> fax to the machine, it picks up and then hangs up. Does anyone have a
!> Supra Fax Modem hooked to their NeXTstation? Thanks.
!>
You need to get either DFax from Alembic or NXFax from Black & White.
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Nexus Administration
VOX: 310.640.3342
INT: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: One More Rave Pages Review
Message-ID: <Cn98Ho.7A2@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 04:29:46 GMT
For those people that like to hours and hours formating a
document, then reformating over and over again, stay away
from Pages. It makes the task of creating a beautiful
looking documents too easy.
I've spent days under Pagemaker trying to get a huge
document to look correct after I inserted or removed
something. Pages, on the other hand, can sense
what the page should look like. It takes care of
many of the chores associated aligning text and
graphics. In addition, it so damn easy to use
compared to Pagemaker (which is even less complicated
than Frame).
Many people have posted concerns about the rigidness
of design models. I don't believe that this is a
severe limitation for most people. Pages should squelch
those concerns by posting a Postscript document that
shows examples of the various design models. For me,
the supplied design models cover everything that I
want to do, which includes, Manuals, Newsleters, Reports,
Memos, and Leters.
If you can afford spending $25 or $30 dollars, I highly
recommend getting the demo. But beware, use of this product
is highly addicting. I stayed up until 2:00 am using
it the first night I got it.
Brad Wright
wwright@premisys.com
wwright@shell.portal.com
From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 26 Mar 1994 08:36:47 GMT
Organization: Weber State University, Ogden, UT
Message-ID: <2n0s6v$jil@u.cc.utah.edu>
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>
In article <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
]Do NOT buy ANY Diamond products! They are not and will never be
]supported by XFree86 (although a few adventerous souls have gotten
]them to limp along at times). Diamond will not allow their drivers to
]be public and doesn't care at all that this may cost them a sale
]because you run a free "unix". They are quite indifferent to the
]pleas of free "unix" users.
There is a *reason* for this, however lame you and I think it is. They
want to be able to "upgrade" their card hardware with a PAL and a BIOS
change. With BIOS based drivers, this is peachy. With hard coded drivers
whose changes don't match those in the new BIOS, you can smoke your card
and your monitor (and if you are lucky and smoking the card pulls an
electrical no-no by melting don to a direct short OR you have an older
non-optoisolated monitor and the collapsing magnetic field from the
flyback as the sync oscillator burns out causes a voltage backwash, you
can also smoke your power supply and/or your motherboard. AND your
other cards. AND your modem. AND your phone line. ...JOY!).
The reason for keeping it "secret" is both so they don't get stuck
with backward compatability issues with software they don't control
and because all a competitor has to do is build the same card and be
cleverer in programming their PALs.
Aren't you glad you brought this up again. 8-(.
Terry Lambert
terry@cs.weber.edu
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.
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From: josv@inter.NL.net (Jos Vos)
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Message-ID: <Cn9pq2.8yq@inter.NL.net>
Organization: NLnet
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 10:42:02 GMT
evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu (jeffrey d evans) writes:
> What high performance graphics cards are there for the PCI local bus that are
>out and have decent support for them. I want to keep all my options open as
>far as operating systems go(OS/2, Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD...). I also
>want to atleast a 1280x1024 256 colors 72hz noninterlaced top resolution and
>display rate(I will consider others though).
> here's the info I have so far :
I'm considering to buy the SPEA/Video-7 Mercury PCI with 2 MB VRAM.
It can do what you want. Unfortunately I have (until now) only heard
of people using the VLB version of this card, so I'm not sure about
100 % compatibility between the VLB and PCI versions.
--
-- Jos Vos <josv@NL.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer can't find nntp server
Message-ID: <1994Mar23.190350.1591@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <2m2872$h0c@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 19:03:50 GMT
In article <2m2872$h0c@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com> bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com
(Martin Bublitz) writes:
> In article <2lsdib$ous@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
> (Joe Panico) writes:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I downloaded NewsGrazer75 (FAT) from cs.orst.edu onto my machine at
> > home. This machine is connected to University throught TransSys PNI
> > (SLIP).I have entered the IP address of the Universities nntp server
> > (128.91.200.1) in the Grazers preference panel, but when it starts
> > up I get the following error message:
> >
> > Can't locate nntp server machine 128.91.200.1 please change your
> > Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.
> >
> > But I CAN telnet directly to that address from my NeXT without any
> > problems.
>
> I was having the same problem until I realized that NewGrazer
> wants the actual name of the NNTP server - the IP address on its own
> doesn't work (for me, anyways). So, you'll have to set up your DNS
> (if you haven't already). Unfortunately, this slows things
> down (again, for me anyway), because it has to reference the name
> server each and every time it gets a new title to scan for new
> messages takes a long time as a new title is sent a bit better than
> once a second. But hey, it sure beats nn.
>
I'll buy the one about the host name, but I can't believe the thing about
DNS. I'll bet it also runs if the NNTP host shows up in NIS or even
/etc/hosts. Anything else would simply have to be called a weird thing!
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love )
Subject: AMS TeX on NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Mar26.033829.2567@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 03:38:29 GMT
Has anyone built AMSTeX 2.1 for NeXT. I'm having a bitch of a time
and would like help from anybody who has gotten the fonts right.
The tfm files seem to be moved into the directories where they belong
and the format seems to build but any document I try to process, like
the AMSTeX Guide gives all kinds of warning errors about cmcsc8,
msam10, cmbsy7, and eufm10. Running the contents of missfont.log
fails too. How do I get this working?
All help appreciated.
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From: Matthias Rosenberger
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Message-ID: <1994Mar26.141306.28765@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
References: <2mu4viINNl3f@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 14:13:06 GMT
In article <2mu4viINNl3f@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
[...]
> Executor/MSW crashes too much for my own taste.
[...]
Hey, that's real good Mac emulation ;^)
Our Macs here use to crash several times a day even when you just do
simple text processing e.g. with MS Word. So I'd say if you don't
get your dayly crashes you won't have a real Mac feeling.
--
Matthias Rosenberger, Walter Schottky Institut, TU Muenchen
email: matthias@macnet.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de (NeXTmail wellcome)
From: laire@davinci.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 26 Mar 1994 16:52:38 +0100
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
Message-ID: <2n1lo6$olj@davinci.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <Cn9pq2.8yq@inter.NL.net>
josv@inter.NL.net (Jos Vos) writes:
>I'm considering to buy the SPEA/Video-7 Mercury PCI with 2 MB VRAM.
>It can do what you want. Unfortunately I have (until now) only heard
>of people using the VLB version of this card, so I'm not sure about
>100 % compatibility between the VLB and PCI versions.
I'm also interested in some NS-PCI-Support information...
i plan to buy a PCI board with build in SCSI(NCR) and i'm
wondering if there's already driver support or something in
the pipeline.
Regards
--
Ralph Schmidt laire@uni-paderborn.de
University of Paderborn (Germany)
From: root@neuromancer.tamu.edu (bossMan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: [Q] A few questions about NS486
Date: 26 Mar 1994 20:11:50 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2n24u6$eoe@news.tamu.edu>
About a month ago we bought a Black pizza box which I has fallen in love
with. I would like to take the hardware that I'm NT on and convert it to
something usefull but I want to look before I leap...
1. Is Windows support inheriet with NS? (I would be getting the
educational version). Just how realiable is it? I have to be
able to run Win FoxPro.
2. Does NS486 come with NetWare/Appletalk or is it a seperate package?
3. Will a Adaptec 1510/Texel CD-ROM combo work?
Any help would be appreciated... Thanks.
Traff
root@neuromancer.tamu.edu (NeXTmail)
traff@athletics.tamu.edu
From: root@neuromancer.tamu.edu (bossMan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] A few questions about NS486
Date: 26 Mar 1994 20:12:23 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2n24v7$eoh@news.tamu.edu>
About a month ago we bought a Black pizza box which I has fallen in love
with. I would like to take the hardware that I'm NT on and convert it to
something usefull but I want to look before I leap...
1. Is Windows support inheriet with NS? (I would be getting the
educational version). Just how realiable is it? I have to be
able to run Win FoxPro.
2. Does NS486 come with NetWare/Appletalk or is it a seperate package?
3. Will a Adaptec 1510/Texel CD-ROM combo work?
Any help would be appreciated... Thanks.
Traff
root@neuromancer.tamu.edu (NeXTmail)
traff@athletics.tamu.edu
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp Review
Date: 27 Mar 1994 03:07:01 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Mar26190701@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2mu4viINNl3f@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <2mvcafINN2np@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
In-reply-to: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu's message of 25 Mar 1994 18:59:27 GMT
In article <2mvcafINN2np@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
> Many have pointed out to me that the LaTeX environment on the
> NeXT is second to none. Being a programmer, I guess I can
> learn LaTeX, but I am thinking of other non-technical
> doctoral student: my wife is an architecture history major and
> I *know* she will simply refuse to use a WP that does not have
> WYSIWYG interface. People are too much used to Macs, hiliting
> stuff and setting them to bold etc. I didn't try LaTeX, but I
> am assuming it is not like an ordinary WP.
No, it most decidedly is not. It is more like a type-setting
language. You write commands, compile, and look at the results. It
is not very difficult, however, and the NeXT environment is indeed the
best I have seen. You can do almost anything (with TeX, at least --
LaTeX is more rigid), but that is hard. In other words, you may
produce incredible-looking manuscripts (although most journal editors
don't let you) but it takes time unless someone has already written a
LaTeX style file for you.
Another advantage to LaTeX is that it is free and ported to
everything. This, in combination with the fact that LaTeX files are
ascii text makes it portable (and you can send drafts using dumb
email).
But the main reason to use LaTeX is that it has no equivalents when it
comes to type-setting mathematics. I personally use it not because I
love hacking style files, but because I find I have no choice.
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Subject: NewsGrazer crosspostings
Message-ID: <CnAtvo.2qv@hazel.north.de>
Sender: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Organization: Great Mathematical Developments, Inc.
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 01:09:22 GMT
NewsGrazer Revision 3.0, Release 75 claims in its Revision History ( in
its Help ) to "Handle cross referenced articles".
My Cnews does handle cross referenced articles correctly, i.e. it creates
one file with several hard links.
But in NewsGrazer, after having read such an article in one news group, it
still turns up in all other crossposted groups as unread, which is mildly
annoying.
What have I done wrong? Any help greatly appreciated.
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BETA: RBrowser 0.9 available for anonymous FTP
Date: 27 Mar 1994 06:25:38 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2n38t2$o1o@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2mt67g$qk@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <2mte3p$sk3@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
In article <2mte3p$sk3@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Tim Pugh
<tpugh@oce.orst.edu> writes:
>It's almost a replacement for Touch.app. I'd like to see RBrowser use the ftp
>protocol so I can connect to ftp sites like cs.orst.edu. Then RBrowser would
>replace Touch.app and GatorFTP1.4 and exceed them many times over. It's a
>great start for a v0.9 application.
Unfortunately, FTP doesn't have quite the right semantics. There
are other ways to provide anonymous access that look a lot more
promising.
What FTP has going for it is ubiquity and passive mode (which
allows you to copy files directly from one host to another
without the data passing through your machine; a big win when
you're stuck with a low-speed SLIP/PPP connection; see the
description of the "proxy" command on the ftp man page).
>I do miss some Workspace Manager threading that RBrowser does not have. For
>instance, copy and move operations have to wait for completion. Hopefully
>those operations can get threaded and listed in the process inspector in the
>next realease of RBrowser. :^)
We'll look into this.
>I did have problems with a large directory that contained 1897 subdirectories.
>I guess RBrowser needs the Large File System option. Unfortunately, that
>directory was between the root directory and my home directory and I never did
>get in.
Just out of curiosity, how do
time /bin/ls -1 >/dev/null [one]
and
time /bin/ls -l >/dev/null [lower case L]
compare?
-=EPS=-
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: what has mail-merge on NSFIP (was Re: WriteUp Review)
Message-ID: <940326.113440.9o2.rusnews.w164w_-_@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 11:34:40 MST
References: <Mar.11.14.51.45.1994.26339@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> - No mail merge. I rarely if ever use this, but its a good thing to be
> able to do form letters. WriteNow can even do this.
what does, for white hardware? wordperfect, and that's all?
--
Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gadallah@netcom.com (Larry Gadallah)
Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP and NeXT + Kernel forwarding
Message-ID: <gadallahCnBBq4.3Ip@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2m5add$ajd@clarknet.clark.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 07:34:52 GMT
I was also wondering about a related topic: Is IP forwarding enabled
in the Next port of BSD? I want to use a cube as a gateway too, but
I haven't had any luck in getting in to route packets between interfaces
yet. Does anyone know if this is possible?
Thanks,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,misc.jobs.offered,comp.sys.next.software
From: rvs@vnp.com (Ronald V. Simmons)
Subject: NeXTSTEP Programmers Needed
Message-ID: <1994Mar26.184811.16490@vnp.com>
Sender: news@vnp.com (News account)
Organization: VNP Software
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 94 18:48:11 GMT
VNP Software offers development tools and consulting services to the
NEXTSTEP community. We're looking for software professionals to help build
object-oriented business systems for Fortune 500 companies. Strong UNIX
and C programming skills in addition to familiarity with object-oriented
concepts are required. Experience with NEXTSTEP and with object-oriented
languages such as SmallTalk, Objective-C or C++ is desirable. Candidates
must be highly motivated and willing to travel. The ability to work well
with a wide variety of clients is also critical.
Please send resumes via fax (617) 864-6768 or email to
Evelyn_Walsh@vnp.com. You may also mail resumes to:
VNP Software
10 Gardner Road
Suite A
Cambridge, MA 02139
Attn: E. Walsh
--
Evelyn Walsh
HR Coordinator
VNP Software
Cambridge, MA
Evelyn_Walsh@vnp.com
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: looking for 2 programs
Date: 27 Mar 1994 08:02:04 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <2n3ehs$ch9@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Greetings. I'm looking for QuickTime for the NeXT, and for a WAV to
NeXT SND converter. Does either of these exist for h NeXT? I have a
68030 Cube running NS 2.1 (soon to be upgraded to 3.2).
Daniel
--
Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu
Daniel_LHommedieu@nest.catt.ncsu.edu
eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
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From: john@remote1.demon.co.uk (john)
Subject: Encyclopaedia for NEXTSTEP ??
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 11:28:46 +0000
Message-ID: <940327122739.225AAB0G.john@remote1>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Seeing as NS is such an excellent multi-media workstation, I am
perplexed at the apparent lack of encyclopaedias for the
platform. It is really frustrating having to revert to Groliers
on Compuserve or Encarta under MS Windows. Can anyone help ?
John
--
John I. Stephen
4, Elm Road, john@remote1.demon.co.uk
Farncombe, Godalming,
Surrey. GU7 3SW
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 27 Mar 1994 14:44:32 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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laire@davinci.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt) writes:
>i plan to buy a PCI board with build in SCSI(NCR) and i'm
>wondering if there's already driver support or something in
>the pipeline.
Talus Corporation has finished a NS/FIP driver for PCI boards with NCR SCSI.
It will be shipping very soon, might even be fee because a third party might
buy it of them and donate the driver to NeXT.
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From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GISO
Date: 27 Mar 1994 16:53:38 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <2n4dmi$j66@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Thanks for the responses. I got and compiled GISO this morning.
Problem is, it doesn't work half the time. I can load a sound and
convert it when GISO first starts (usually) then I can try to load
another and it usually doesn't work. Is there a size limiation for
GISO/Sox? One of the sounds I want to convert is the 22kHz 2-channel
THX wave file (640k).
Daniel
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: CAD Program?
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 14:27:15 GMT
In article <2mv4l8$pgo@nntp.crl.com> smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger") writes:
> I have a customer who is interested in doing architectural drawings on his Turbo Color,
> and would like to find a CAD program for this purpose. I understand that CraftMan
> may be one option; also Diagram II.
For architectural drawings ZZvolume from ARES might be worth a try. Distributor in the US would be
alembic?
Juergen
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From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bus Logic 445S Driver needed
Date: 27 Mar 1994 13:54:43 -0600
Organization: InterAccess, Chicagoland's Full Service Internet Provider
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References: <2mtp9d$b42@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
In article <2mtp9d$b42@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
Gregory B Howland <gregory@nukestep.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>Could someone NeXTMail to me the driver for the
>Bus Logic 445S SCSI adapter - or tell me the ftp
>site where I can download it.
>
I wasn't aware it had been finished. I'm still waiting for NeXT
to post some news on new drivers. It's been a while since they issued
any. Still no decent 32bit colour drivers from NeXT themselves yet.
- Brian.
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: looking for 2 programs
Date: 27 Mar 1994 15:57:34 GMT
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In article <2n3ehs$ch9@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C.
L'Hommedieu) writes:
> Greetings. I'm looking for QuickTime for the NeXT, and for a WAV to
> NeXT SND converter. Does either of these exist for h NeXT? I have a
> 68030 Cube running NS 2.1 (soon to be upgraded to 3.2).
MetroTools will handle the sound conversion, however you'll have to wait for
NeXTTIME for support of Apple's QuickTime.
Dave
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From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages -- font oddities, no landscape
Date: 27 Mar 1994 19:11:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403280108.AA01789@cantina.lanl.gov>
I finally noticed that my dingbats button is grayed out.
Well, dingbats are prominent in the Pages manual, but not
on my machine. Upon reflection, however, I decided that if
I haven't bought or installed such a font, there probably
isn't a good reason to expect it to be present.
I do have a few extra fonts on this machine. And, they show
up in the Font inspector panel if you check yes on "Show
all available fonts". The peculiarity is that I get TWO
entries stating the presence of Helvetica and Times. The
extra H & T entries disappear if I uncheck the "Show all
available fonts" button. So do the Courier and Gil Sans
entries, but the Adobe Garamond remains. Why that? I can
certainly set the body text in these fonts, so I don't quite
understand. Perhaps the typographical daemon-god behind
Pages just doesn't like Courier...
What I haven't figured out how to do is how to set ONE word
in Courier while in a background text, say, of Times. If
that ends up being a "no-no", then how is anyone going to
be able to use Pages to write a software manual?
And another thing; I'm trying to set up a three-column
brochure in landscape mode. The mode can be selected in
the Page Layout menu item panel, and it does indeed print
out landscape. BUT, at least in the Victory Model, the
layout does NOT re-adjust to the new width and height and
that printed page is cut off at the top and bottom. If
that's a feature, I don't like it much.
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: looking for 2 programs
Date: 28 Mar 1994 01:13:38 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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References: <2n3ehs$ch9@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) writes:
>Greetings. I'm looking for QuickTime for the NeXT, and for a WAV to
>NeXT SND converter. Does either of these exist for h NeXT? I have a
>68030 Cube running NS 2.1 (soon to be upgraded to 3.2).
QuickTime in and of itself is not available for NS, either black or white.
1) NEXTIME is supposed to support plug-in codecs, including a QT module;
2) the Quix(tm) box from a Swiss company turns a black NeXT into a Quadra 950
but I am uncertain if full System 7 support, including QT, is availalbe.
3) I've been able to make silent QT movie clips using a NeXTdimension and a
Quadra, but it's an invloved process. Not difficult, just involved (and
the hardware and software is expensive.)
I think (but I'm not sure) that GISO will translate between sound files.
Cheers,
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others
"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Encyclopaedia for NEXTSTEP ??
Date: 28 Mar 1994 01:20:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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john@remote1.demon.co.uk (john) writes:
>Seeing as NS is such an excellent multi-media workstation, I am
>perplexed at the apparent lack of encyclopaedias for the
>platform. It is really frustrating having to revert to Groliers
>on Compuserve or Encarta under MS Windows. Can anyone help ?
Last summer ('93) I was chatting with a fellow about this very thing. I'll
have to dredge up the e-mail about it (if I still have it).
Multimeida capability brought me to NeXTSTEP, and by God I'm going to see it
flourish in that garden yet! At least New Media magazine occasionally mentions
NS apps like CraftMan and PixelMagician...
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"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
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From: anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta)
Subject: environmental vars and Emacs.app
Message-ID: <1994Mar28.011646.15583@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 01:16:46 GMT
I am trying to get AucTex to work in Emacs.app. Unfortunately it fails
when I try to run LaTeX on it, with an error that it can't find my style
file.
Having run emacs (both in zsh and csh) and not had the error, I am
positive that Emacs.app isn't finding a defined TEXINPUTS variable.
Shouldn't it automatically inherit the environmental variables placed in
cshrc? If not, what is the solution?
Thanks in advance,
-Anand
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: looking for 2 programs
Date: 28 Mar 94 01:42:32 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Daniel C. L'Hommedieu writes:
> I'm looking for [...] a WAV to NeXT SND converter.
Try "sox". It's free and it also converts a bunch of other formats to
and from NeXT .snd format. For a NS GUI front-end, try "GISO"
(garbage in, sound out) which is available on the NS archives.
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: looking for 2 programs
Message-ID: <1994Mar28.024748.7660@news.media.mit.edu>
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Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 02:47:48 GMT
In article <2n5b02$7kj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) writes:
>>eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) writes:
>>
>>>Greetings. I'm looking for QuickTime for the NeXT, and for a WAV to
>>>NeXT SND converter. Does either of these exist for h NeXT? I have a
>>>68030 Cube running NS 2.1 (soon to be upgraded to 3.2).
>>
>>QuickTime in and of itself is not available for NS, either black or white.
>>
>> 1) NEXTIME is supposed to support plug-in codecs, including a QT module;
>>
Umm, although the first part of that sentence is right, the last part
doesn't make much sense. QT is all about plug-in codecs; the question
is will there be plug-in codecs for QT codecs like JPEG, road-pizza,
CinePak, etc. I would be very, very, very surprised to see CinePak
support in NeXTTime (ya gotta license it from Radius, I believe, and they
want a cool 1 million $), although I'd love to be wrong.
The other question (re: NeXTTime) is will there be Mac and PC codecs
for the various NeXTTime codecs available for QT and AVI. We can only
hope the the fine NeXTTime folks aren't idiots (and I don't think they
are...) If they are, it will be trivial to take your NeXT generated
digital video and play it on a Mac or a PC. If its not (i.e. they don't
supply Mac and/or PC codecs), you're screwed, with a capital S.
In general, though, it's pretty easy to generate QT movies under NS; just get
the cross-platform QuickTime Developers Toolkit from Apple's developer
support. It's about $50-$100, which gets you a bunch of C++ code that
compiles quite nicely under NS. This lets you take raw images and
generate "flattened" QT movies pretty easily. It's still still a pain
given that you can't use better codecs than JPEG or "none" (oh joy),
but you can ship the QT movie over to a Mac and DeBabelize to your
heart's content. I did this a year or so ago, and still use it every
once in a while, but I'm content to wait for NeXTTime. Of course, if
those codecs aren't available...
Also, I've recently noticed a spate of X11 movie players which purport
to be able to play QT movies. I've been too busy to chase down the pointers,
but you might look at that; they're probably free and the code should
just work under any of the various X packages that run under NS, and it
probably wouldn't be too hard to port it to native...
Good luck.
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From: ayardley@qns1.qns.com (A.C. Yardley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: controlled dumps & undumps
Date: 27 Mar 1994 10:19:00 -0600
Organization: Questar Network Services
Message-ID: <2n4blk$d3i@qns1.qns.com>
OK. I give up (well, not really, but I would appreciate some input from
the group). What I want is a script which will force a core dump of an
executable. Then, I want to save the executable in a such a state so I can
restart that executable in the same (or as close as possible) state.
I should mention, when I try to install the default behavior of SIGIOT or
SIGQUIT (SIG_DFL), which the docs say produces a core dump, I get an
'IOT Trap' message. Evidently, traps and prevents core dumps.
Any ideas? Thanks.
A.C.
From: rommel@ars.muc.de (Kai Uwe Rommel)
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Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Distribution: world
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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 19:29:51 +0100
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laire@davinci.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt) writes in article <2n1lo6$olj@davinci.uni-paderborn.de>:
>josv@inter.NL.net (Jos Vos) writes:
>
>
>>I'm considering to buy the SPEA/Video-7 Mercury PCI with 2 MB VRAM.
>>It can do what you want. Unfortunately I have (until now) only heard
>>of people using the VLB version of this card, so I'm not sure about
>>100 % compatibility between the VLB and PCI versions.
>
>I'm also interested in some NS-PCI-Support information...
>i plan to buy a PCI board with build in SCSI(NCR) and i'm
>wondering if there's already driver support or something in
>the pipeline.
SCSI (NCR) support is there, although it has a few shortcomings still.
Besides offering great performance, their driver currently can't
address memory >16MB, due to a bug. A new driver is said to be
released (according to NCR support people) during the end of April
which will solve that problem. Another known problem is that current
versions of the NCR SCSI BIOS (SDMS) can't correctly handle disks
larger than 1 GB. Again, according NCR support people and verified by
a board maker who uses it, a new version of it is currently in test at
the board maker's and will soon solve this problem. Besides these two
problems, the NCR SCSI chip on PCI boards seems to be very fast and
also quite stable.
For graphics cards, the fact that such a card has PCI bus should be
transparent (invisible), except that it is faster. We have one PCI
machine here with a PCI version of the Miro Crystal 8S (S3805) and it
is *really* fast, even about 20% faster than the VLB version in a
machine with the same bus clock. The IBM S3 drivers worked fine
immediately, like they also run fine on the VLB and ISA versions of
that graphics card.
Kai Uwe Rommel
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From: nv90-mwe@nada.kth.se (Martin Wennerberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Encyclopaedia for NEXTSTEP ??
Date: 28 Mar 1994 11:05:09 GMT
Organization: The Royal Institute of Technology
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Keywords: LookItUp dictionary
In article <940327122739.225AAB0G.john@remote1> john@remote1.demon.co.uk
(john) writes:
> Seeing as NS is such an excellent multi-media workstation, I am
> perplexed at the apparent lack of encyclopaedias for the
> platform. It is really frustrating having to revert to Groliers
> on Compuserve or Encarta under MS Windows. Can anyone help ?
I'm working on what might be described as a generalized Digital Webster
called LookItUp. It's for viewing all kinds of data in the form
key/definition (eg. Dictionaries, lexicons, UNIX man pages) in RTFD form.
It will be released this summer. For more info contact me at the address
below. Publishers especially welcome...
___________________________________________________________
Martin Wennerberg
Initiera Systemdesign AB
Distributor of NEXTSTEP in the Nordic and Baltic countries
Box 20 161, 161 02 Bromma, Sweden
email: martin@initiera.upnet.se (NeXTMail Welcome)
fax: +46 8 98 70 67
phone: +46 8 635 30 86
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From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: What can I do with a CRL shell account and a NeXT?
Message-ID: <CnCx09.2GK@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 04:12:08 GMT
CRL has just set up a pop in this area and I've decided to give it a try.
I hope to finally be able to ftp stuff, but I'm not sure whether a basic
CRL shell account will be enough to let me do anything neat with the NeXT.
Their slip connection is much more expensive and I don't want to have to
spend a lot of time getting started with all the technical details.
I'd like to hear from any NeXT users who have CRL accounts. Anything
interesting that one can do with this combination? Can you use any
software besides Terminal or Stuart or some other terminal emulator?
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Metaresearch, Inc
Date: 26 Mar 1994 13:20:06 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Distribution: usa
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: Metaresearch now has a product called "SoundWorks"
: You may reach them at info@metaresearch.com
:
Well, you can *try* to reach them at info@metaresearch.com
I recently managed to buy Soundworks from them, but it took a while.
A friend here is now also trying to buy SoundWorks, and is having a lot
of trouble getting any response.
Lee et al. If you're listening -- you must be more attentive to
business enquiries, otherwise people will give up...
Have fun,
mmalcolm
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From: mohan@tulip (Mohan Pakkurti)
Subject: Photoshop for NeXTSTEP ?
Message-ID: <CnDLCC.5vD@utnetw.utoledo.edu>
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Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 12:57:47 GMT
Hello:
I am in need of a program with functionality of the Photoshop.
Is Photoshop available for NeXT or any other program which can do the same?
Hope someone can help me. Thanks very much.
//Mohan
From: matt@pass.wayne.edu (Matt Lessins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:48:53
Organization: Wayne State University
Message-ID: <matt.19.0009D0D9@pass.wayne.edu>
Where can I get the lastest release of SLIP by TransSys (Louie M.)? Thanks....
Matt Lessins
matt@pass.wayne.edu
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDPlayer
Date: 28 Mar 1994 08:19 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Hi. I only got one response so I thought I'd try again. If you're running
CDPlayer on NeXT hardware (CPU and CD-ROM) under NS3.2, how'd you do it?
Thanks.
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help: need command line pprog to do low level SCSI disk format on Cube
Message-ID: <22671@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca>
Date: 28 Mar 94 15:06:38 GMT
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Anyone have or know where I can get a command line driven program to
do a low level SCSI disk format on my Turbo Cube (NS 3.0).
I checked many FTP sites and came up empty handed.
Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Rob Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP
Date: 28 Mar 1994 16:16:38 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
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References: <matt.19.0009D0D9@pass.wayne.edu>
matt@pass.wayne.edu (Matt Lessins) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>Where can I get the lastest release of SLIP by TransSys (Louie M.)? Thanks....
>
>
>
>
>Matt Lessins
>matt@pass.wayne.edu
Note to louie if he's listening. cs.orst.edu got vandalized the other
day so anything in submissions is history.
BTW: You'll find PNI at src.doc.ic.ac.uk computing/systems/next/submissions
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FTP passive mode
Date: 28 Mar 1994 17:14:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
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In article <2n7243$ek7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> Unfortunately, the ftp at some sites (orst.cs.edu, unfortunately)
> doesn't support the PASV passive mode command making ncftp fail when
used
> with "term". Is PASV support a switch that could be toggled, or does no
> support imply a version of ftp that can't be configured to support PASV?
> It sure would be nice to be able to transfer files from orst.cs.edu
> directly to home...
Oops, I meant "cs.orst.edu".
---
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From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (lon
Date: 28 Mar 1994 16:38:20 GMT
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In article a23@news.tamu.edu, lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes:
> Now we know why it took so long for Pages to ship. The engineers
> were too busy hauling a stuffed green dragon around the world
> twice.
>
> Lusty
I'll bet the *real* reason that it took so long for Pages to ship is
that they tried so hard to make the core of the app "portable", without
necessarily being tied to NeXTSTEP. This suspicion will be confirmed,
in my mind, if within the next few months Pages is suddenly released
for Windows or OS/2 or Solaris or something.
To make the app "portable", the core of it is probably written in C++,
and takes no advantage of any provided objects of NeXTSTEP. The UI,
of course, would be done using I.B., but extra effort would have to
be expended to cleanly separate the UI from the core code. My
experience has been that this is much more difficult to do than
appears at first blush-- it's just so much easier to go ahead and
let the UI store "state" information and such. As a trivial example,
suppose a core object requires an instance variable that contains
a customer name, and that this name is expected to be ultimately
sourced (provided) by the user typing it in a text field on one
of the screens. You can do this with just one instance variable--
the 'custName' outlet, but now if your core object references the
'custName' outlet directly (via, say, [custName stringValue]), then the
core object has ties to the interface sprinkled throughout (or at
least your accessor methods will be tied to the UI, if you use them
instead). So, what do you do? You write a special "controller" object
that mediates access to the "view" object (i.e., the UI) for the
benefit of the core "model" object (classical MVC paradigm), and the
controller mediates access to the view. And, your controller objects
therefore become your interface layer, to interface your app to the UI.
Often, for encapsulation purposes, this is the desired approach anyway.
But sometimes it's just not worth the effort. In those cases, my
"controller" object and "model" object are one and the same object,
but this merging comes at a cost of less "portability" of the app.
And, if app "portability" is your goal, your SOL if you take these
kinds of shortcuts. But, if your app is never expected to see the
light of day outside of NeXTSTEP, these (and other) kinds of short-
cuts are very handy, and still produce understandable and easily-
maintained code.
If a developer is willing to immerse himself (herself) in NeXTSTEP,
and use everything that NeXTSTEP provides (including Objective-C
instead of C++ for many/most of the work), there is a significant
time advantage to developing under NeXTSTEP. But, the more your
app is expected to interface and/or port to foreign systems, the
more that advantage becomes eroded.
A case in point that I was faced with some time ago: my app needed
to extract various Macintosh resources from the resource fork of
a Mac file. On the Macintosh, getting at those resources just
involves making Mac ROM toolbox calls. To do the same on the NeXT,
I needed to, in effect, create the equivalent of the Mac ROM
toolbox calls first, then use those routines to access the resource
information. Where's the NeXT-advantage in that?
Likewise, on the Mac, if someone desired to write a simple app
that would access Mac resources, and they wanted this app to run
under, say, Windows, they would not be able to use the native
ROM toolbox calls-- they would have to rewrite those calls from
scratch. So, the "erosion" phenomenon I mention above doesn't
just pertain to NeXT-- it pertains to all platforms.
Bottom line is: the more "portable" your app is, the harder it
is to write, and the longer it takes.
My own feeling is almost a feeling of betrayal when a developer
writes a "portable" app on the NeXT, because (1) I know the
costs involved, and (2) it feels to me like they've rejected
NeXTSTEP, and only want pieces of it.
Nevin
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FTP passive mode
Date: 28 Mar 1994 16:54:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2n7243$ek7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <2n38t2$o1o@nic-nac.CSU.net>
In article <2n38t2$o1o@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
> What FTP has going for it is ubiquity and passive mode (which
> allows you to copy files directly from one host to another
> without the data passing through your machine; a big win when
> you're stuck with a low-speed SLIP/PPP connection; see the
> description of the "proxy" command on the ftp man page).
Unfortunately, the ftp at some sites (orst.cs.edu, unfortunately)
doesn't support the PASV passive mode command making ncftp fail when used
with "term". Is PASV support a switch that could be toggled, or does no
support imply a version of ftp that can't be configured to support PASV?
It sure would be nice to be able to transfer files from orst.cs.edu
directly to home...
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From: anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta)
Subject: Solution: environmental vars and Emacs.app
Message-ID: <1994Mar28.183947.17708@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 18:39:47 GMT
Thanks to all who answered. Here is a brief outline of the answers I
received. The simplest was offered by Magnus Nordborg and was just a
emacs change. It seems to work fine.
> From: Magnus Nordborg <magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
> Subject: Re: environmental vars and Emacs.app
>
> I does automatically inherit the environment. The problem is that
Workspace doesn't have one. If you launch Emacs.app from a command line
everything will work. Given that you probably don't want to do this,
there are two ways:
>
> 1.) Fix it in your .emacs file. If you use Emacs-19 there is a cool
way to do this. I don't recall how to do it under Emacs-18 (but Emacs 19
for NeXTstep will be out very soon if you can wait)
>
> 2.) Brutally give Workspace an environment by running a loginhook that
launches a shell that launches Workspace.
>
> -Magnus
>
> P.S. I remembered how to do it for old Emacs.app:
>
> ;;; set up environment for sub-processes
> ;;(if (equal (getenv "TERM") "eterm")
> ;; (setq process-environment
> ;; (append
> ;;
;;'("PATH=.:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/LocalApps:/NextApps:/Ne
xtAdmin:/NextDeveloper/Dem;;os"
;;"TEXINPUTS=.:/LocalLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs/:/usr/lib/tex/inputs")
> ;; process-environment)))
> ;;; replace INFOPATH
> ;;(if (equal (getenv "TERM") "eterm")
> ;; (setq Info-directory-list '("/usr/local/lib/emacs/info/"
> ;; "/usr/local/info")))
>
other options are to run Emacs.app in an environment:
> From: Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com>
> Subject: Re: environmental vars and Emacs.app
>
> Emacs.app is a Workspace, not a csh, subprocess so cshrc
> hasn't been run. A workaround is to write a 2-line shell
> script that sets TEXINPUTS (or dot-executes .cshrc) and then
> launches Emacs.app. Make this script executable and name it
> Emacs.
or to run the Workspace in a shell (which I couldn't get to work properly,
so won't cite here).
Thanks to all who answered,
-Anand
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From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Envelopes
Date: 28 Mar 1994 18:13:06 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2n76nj$g4d@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
My wife is having a lot of trouble setting up envelopes
and printing them properly. She ways that Microsoft
word does is just by saying PrintEnvelope. I shuddered at the
thought that Microsoft does something better than NeXT so I,
once again, turn to the net. Is there an easy way to set up
printing an envelope out? Or rather, editing the address
for printing?
Any clues
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From: john@remote1.demon.co.uk (John I Stephen)
Subject: Re: Envelopes
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:51:28 +0000
Message-ID: <9403281946.AA00982@remote1.demon.co.uk>
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In article <2n76nj$g4d@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don
Bora) writes:
>
> My wife is having a lot of trouble setting up envelopes
> and printing them properly. She ways that Microsoft
> word does is just by saying PrintEnvelope. I shuddered at the
> thought that Microsoft does something better than NeXT so I,
> once again, turn to the net. Is there an easy way to set up
> printing an envelope out? Or rather, editing the address
> for printing?
>
> Any clues
>
Sarrus software's SBook does a first class job of this allowing you
to print envelopes directly from the address book.
John
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Photoshop for NeXTSTEP ?
Date: 28 Mar 94 19:48:38 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.764884118@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <CnDLCC.5vD@utnetw.utoledo.edu>
mohan@tulip (Mohan Pakkurti) writes:
>I am in need of a program with functionality of the Photoshop.
>Is Photoshop available for NeXT or any other program which can do the same?
TIFFany2 from bMD is the app you're looking for. Still beta, but close to
release, and already fascinating.
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From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: NewsGrazer or nntp server problems
Message-ID: <CnE8HC.Cp5@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, Psychology Department
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:17:35 GMT
I'm having trouble reading news which I attributed to NewsGrazer at first, but now am not so sure. The symptom is that NewsGrazer simply hangs (with a spinning disk iconette) and the process must be killed. This seems different than the older problem others have reported related to 'prefetched article titles' where NewsGrazer simply folds up all its windows and disappears when encountering a bad news item header.
The reason I'm not sure that the problem is due to NewsGrazer is that using tin I have twice today had tin quit abruptly with the message
signal handler caught signal 10 (or signal 11)
Does anyone have an idea how I can track down what is causing the problem?
-Michael
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From: bruce@pages.com (Bruce Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages: -- Timebomb?
Date: 28 Mar 1994 16:39:08 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403282233.AA23424@pages.com>
>Could you clarify this timebomb and the need for regular updates?
>Are all licenses timebombed, even the real fully paid versions?
>
>The $14.95 demo version should natually be timebombed, and is
>a far better way than some other form of crippling an app.
>But, I hate to have any app with full license stop working
>after some period.
The normal app is not time bombed. Only the demo version. It has a 30 life
limit. The full price customers have unlimited time.
Hope this helps...
bruce-spudking
(Henderson that is)
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FTP passive mode
Date: 28 Mar 1994 22:45:46 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2n7mmq$71j@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2n7243$ek7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <2n7390$eqj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Heh heh. Sorry, they're running an ancient version of ftpd.
Unfortunately, quite a few software vendors ship old or
broken TCP/IP applications--that's why you see so many people
bitch and moan about having trouble telnetting to NeXTs--the
problem really is on their end ... while they steadfastly protest
that they don't have any problems with other [similarly broken]
systems.
I got tired of the whiners and installed a version of telnetd
with LINEMODE disabled, even though this drives up the network
load and penalizes SLIP users. *sigh*
-=EPS=-
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Photoshop for NeXTSTEP ?
Date: 28 Mar 1994 23:57:03 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2n7qsf$91g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <CnDLCC.5vD@utnetw.utoledo.edu> <next2.764884118@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>mohan@tulip (Mohan Pakkurti) writes:
>>I am in need of a program with functionality of the Photoshop.
>>Is Photoshop available for NeXT or any other program which can do the same?
>TIFFany2 from bMD is the app you're looking for. Still beta, but close to
>release, and already fascinating.
Seconded. Awesome app, and PhotoShop won't multitask like TIFFany2. Well,
maybe the Sun and SGI versions will, but at US$1900 a pop they ought to...
>--
>Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
>mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
>IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Fascinating field. Bogosity is not deeply studied. :=)
Cheers
Steve
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Submissions to bcarh50b (47.141.3.161)
Date: 23 Mar 1994 01:24:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: bnr
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References: <2mnlvg$mkq@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
In article <2mnlvg$mkq@bmerha64.bnr.ca> msander@bcarh63f.bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson) writes:
>
>NeXTYahtzee & Sniff were uploaded to my NeXTftp site today.
>Look for them anonymously in bcarh50b:/pub/next.
Excuse my ignorance, but what does this do?
Is it one of those things that one doesn't need unless you already
know what it is?
For people who come on board new, and those who missed past announcements,
it would be nice to see even a 1-line description of what the software
is for.
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From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Digital Function Generator for Intel
Message-ID: <1994Mar28.220710.22450@dal1>
Date: 28 Mar 94 22:07:10 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Would you be interested to check our software DFG on your machine ?
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From: evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu (jeffrey d evans)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) (looking like Zeos)
Date: 28 Mar 1994 22:11:54 -0500
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <2n869q$1hgr@rs560.cl.msu.edu>
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu>
evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu (jeffrey d evans) writes:
>Hi all,
> I will be in the position to recomend a Pentium machine to purchase and had a
>few questions about the few PCI cards out there.
>
> What high performance graphics cards are there for the PCI local bus that are
>out and have decent support for them. I want to keep all my options open as
>far as operating systems go(OS/2, Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD...). I also
>want to atleast a 1280x1024 256 colors 72hz noninterlaced top resolution and
>display rate(I will consider others though).
< rest of my post hacked >
Thanks for all the info that people have sent my way. The posts got a little
confusing there for a while(kind of my fault) because I had originaly
cross-posted to many different operating system groups.
I think I'm going with a Zeos system. It's not my first choice, but it has
about what I want(I think) and I have to buy everything from one company(plus
it doesn't hurt that the guy signing the money order seems to like them).
here's the specs:
Pantera 60 or 66 Pentium system
Diamond stealth pro PCI 2mb vram(maybe 1mb) S3928
on board fast scsi2 controller (adaptic 6360 chip set?)
Nec 17" monitor (don't know which one yet, fg, fge, or fgp)
I think the Diamond should be pretty well supported(even some Xfree users use
it :) it got the highest score on the lastest Graphics card benchmarks
survey(21 Mar 94)). I think it should be pretty compatible on the basis that it
uses the S3928 chipset. Anyone find different.
The only scary part is the scsi2 controller. All the info I have is that it
is an adaptec 6360 controller chip. Anyone using this? Scsi is very important
as many of the items here are unix/scsi already. Obviously they must have
dos/windows support, but does any one know of other operating systems(OS/2,
Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD(Xfree86)...)? Should I just go with an IDE
drive and get the $49 chip for scsi support also?
Any comments from all you OS/2, Linux(Xfree86), NeXtStep, NetBSD(Xfree86) users
are always welcome.
thanks again,
Jeff
P.S. I do know that diamond is being anal about some sort of code release policy
so XFree86 won't support it, but people seem to be using the VLbus version fine
with the XF86_S3 server(version 2.0).
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From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 29 Mar 1994 02:52:35 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
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References: <2d95d09f.415253@ars.muc.de>
Is there any firm description and deadlines of talus' and NCR's SCSI
plans? I'd love to use a stable SCSI driver for my 3GB Seagate disk if it
can coexist with 64MB of RAM.
I sent mail three times to sam@talus.com, but never got an answer.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 29 Mar 1994 03:32:23 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
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References: <2n855j$klo@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In article <2n855j$klo@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
writes:
>
> Is there any firm description and deadlines of talus' and NCR's SCSI
> plans? I'd love to use a stable SCSI driver for my 3GB Seagate disk if it
> can coexist with 64MB of RAM.
>
> I sent mail three times to sam@talus.com, but never got an answer.
>
I spoke with a DEC Systems Engineer today about a later release of the DEC
VIPER PCI (beta) than we currently have and I am told that NCR is negotiating
with Talus to purchase the driver and (I guess) give the driver to NeXT.
I am told the reason why the driver hasn't been certified yet, is because NeXT
wants the source to the driver (not just theirs) in order to certify it and
Talus won't release the source to NeXT, hence NCR's attempts to purchase the
driver.
Hope this helps!
Dave
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From: mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Simple Accounting Program?
Date: 29 Mar 1994 03:51:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2n88kr$s8g@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
Is there a simple accounting program (something like Quicken) available
for NS?
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Subject: RE: CDPlayer
Message-ID: <1994Mar28.191018.1494@earlham.edu>
From: rabahya@earlham.edu
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 19:10:13 -500
References: ,<28MAR199408194324@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: Earlham College
In Article <28MAR199408194324@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes:
>Hi. I only got one response so I thought I'd try again. If you're running
>CDPlayer on NeXT hardware (CPU and CD-ROM) under NS3.2, how'd you do it?
>Thanks.
>Don McCollam
>mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Basically you have two options:
A Be root and stick in a audio-CD in the CD-ROM drive and that should run
the CDPlayer app, and you're in business!
B Make your NeXT a Public Window Server. I haven't tried this, but that
was the reply I got when I posted a question similar to yours. BTW this is a
security hole!!!
Those are my $0.02 worth!
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Simple Accounting Program?
Date: 29 Mar 1994 04:47:25 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: na
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References: <2n88kr$s8g@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
In article <2n88kr$s8g@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve
McCullagh) writes:
> Is there a simple accounting program (something like Quicken) available
> for NS?
>
I would suggest CheckSum...you may contact them at info@sirius.com.
Dave
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From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DTP program support Chinese fonts?
Date: 29 Mar 1994 05:57:21 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Message-ID: <2n8g01$f5m@news.iastate.edu>
I'd like to know if there is any add-on to display and print Chinese
word. We are evaluating on which platform to do our publishing work
of a Chinese Magazine. I've got NS with PasteUp and WriteUp.
Which one is the best Chinese system add-on for NS?
Can PasteUp or WriteUp handle 16-bit Chinese fonts?
Thanks for any information.
Chris
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MAB trn for NS?
Date: 29 Mar 1994 05:59:07 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Message-ID: <2n8g3b$f6e@news.iastate.edu>
Please tell me where to get the MAB trn... please....
Thanks...
Chris
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.help
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: environmental vars and Emacs.app
In-Reply-To: anand@denys.yale.edu's message of Mon, 28 Mar 1994 01:16:46 GMT
To: anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar27214019@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Mar28.011646.15583@news.yale.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 02:40:19 GMT
In article <1994Mar28.011646.15583@news.yale.edu> anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta) writes:
I am trying to get AucTex to work in Emacs.app. Unfortunately it fails
when I try to run LaTeX on it, with an error that it can't find my style
file.
Having run emacs (both in zsh and csh) and not had the error, I am
positive that Emacs.app isn't finding a defined TEXINPUTS variable.
Shouldn't it automatically inherit the environmental variables placed in
cshrc? If not, what is the solution?
No, Emacs when launched from the workspace is not the child of any
shell process and so doesn't inherit any shell environment variables.
A simple fix is to run the following function in your ~/.emacs. It is
part of Emacs for NS and was submitted for the general GNU emacs
distribution but rejected.
;;;###autoload
(defun grabenv (&optional shell-path &rest startup)
"Run a shell subprocess, and interpret its output as a series of environment\n\
variables to insert into the emacs environment. The first optional argument\n\
gives the path to the shell (defaults to \"/bin/csh\"). The remaining arguments\n\
are interpreted as a list of commands for it to execute (defaults to\n\
\"source /etc/login.std\", \"source ~/.login\" and \"setenv\")."
(let ((tmpbuf (get-buffer-create " tmp-env"))
(startlist (if startup startup '("source /etc/login.std"
"source ~/.login"
"setenv"))))
(save-excursion
(set-buffer tmpbuf)
(erase-buffer)
(while startlist
(insert (car startlist) "\n")
(setq startlist (cdr startlist)))
(call-process-region (point-min) (point-max)
(if shell-path shell-path "/bin/csh")
t t nil)
(goto-char (point-min))
(while (< (point) (point-max))
(if (looking-at "^\\([^=\n]*\\)=\\(.*\\)$")
(setenv (buffer-substring (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1))
(buffer-substring (match-beginning 2) (match-end 2))))
(forward-line 1))
(kill-buffer tmpbuf))))
To invoke this function, just use a line like this in your ~/.emacs.
(grabenv)
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (lon
Message-ID: <1994Mar29.034806.13994@millennium.com>
Keywords: Newsgrazer Pro keeps you plugged in
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
References: <2mrsjd$a23@news.tamu.edu> <2n715s$b17@cnn.sim.ES.COM>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 03:48:06 GMT
In article <2n715s$b17@cnn.sim.ES.COM>, Nevin Pratt writes:
> Likewise, on the Mac, if someone desired to write a simple app
> that would access Mac resources, and they wanted this app to run
> under, say, Windows, they would not be able to use the native
> ROM toolbox calls-- they would have to rewrite those calls from
> scratch. So, the "erosion" phenomenon I mention above doesn't
> just pertain to NeXT-- it pertains to all platforms.
I think the way you would want to approach this is to create a high-level
interface layer that your portable code plugs into. This means that for your Mac
resource example, you would have portable code making calls to your app's own
resource handler API. The actual implementation of the resource handler would be
fairly simple on the Mac (the calls would probably pass through to the Mac
resource handler). You would have to implement your own resource handler when it
came time to move the app to Windows (blech) or anywhere else. As long as your
API is high-level enough (i.e. is not in some way tied to the Mac resource
implementation), porting should be restricted to implementing a few objects or
subsystems, according to what's available on the target system.
> Bottom line is: the more "portable" your app is, the harder it
> is to write, and the longer it takes.
Yeah, but if you're smart about it it won't be as hard as you think.
> My own feeling is almost a feeling of betrayal when a developer
> writes a "portable" app on the NeXT, because (1) I know the
> costs involved, and (2) it feels to me like they've rejected
> NeXTSTEP, and only want pieces of it.
Don't blame them, blame NeXT for not creating a large enough market for them to
make money.
__jayson
From: sbeck@math.lsu.edu (Stephen David Beck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEW: Csnd.app for NeXT
Date: 28 Mar 1994 21:49:45 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University InterNetNews Site
Message-ID: <2n7jdp$2hvr@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
Keywords: Csound, sound synthesis, next
Csnd.app for NeXT
Available by anonymous ftp at ftp.cs.orst.edu
Csnd.app is a graphic interface to Csound, the Unix sound synthesis
program by Barry Vercoe at MIT. Csnd.app was written by Stephen David
Beck of the School of Music at Louisiana State University. It is inspired
in large part by the earlier Csound interface, Snd.app by Peter Yadlowski
of the University of Virginia.
Csnd.app has several distinct differences from Snd.app:
- It compiles orc & sco files using the February 1994 csound binary;
- The Csound binary's NeXT MIDI driver has been rewritten to handle the
newer NS3.0 midi driver (not that that is of any use on NeXTs)
- Csnd.app creates a separate subprocess to compile files, returning
control to the user as soon as the compiling begins;
- It uses services to send the following messages from any program to
Csnd.app:
- recompile last orc & sco file
- import file to project
- search MIT Csound Quick Reference for selection
- The MIT Csound Manual has been incorporated into the standard Next Help.
- Double-click on file browser calls appropriate edit program
Csnd.app also takes advantage of the built-in analysis programs in MIT
Csound, and provides an intuitive interface to them. Some of the analysis
features are:
- Soundfile display and playback
- Analysing all or only visually selected portion of soundfile
- Analysis generated by Csound are automatically imported to projects upon
completion.
Csnd.app was compiled under NS 3.0 and should work on any black hardware
running 3.x system software. It is in the final stages of beta testing.
A full 1.0 should be ready by late April. Please forward any bugs or
suggestions directly to the author.
Csnd.app is available via ftp:
ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/sound/NeXT_Csnd.app.README
ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/sound/NeXT_Csnd.app.tar.Z
For more information, e-mail: sbeck@math.lsu.edu
Stephen David Beck
School of Music
Louisiana State University
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Date: 29 Mar 1994 08:46:36 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2n8mcs$3g5@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <> <28MAR199408194324@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> <1994Mar28.191018.1494@earlham.edu>
rabahya@earlham.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In Article <28MAR199408194324@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
>citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes:
>>Hi. I only got one response so I thought I'd try again. If you're running
>>CDPlayer on NeXT hardware (CPU and CD-ROM) under NS3.2, how'd you do it?
>>Thanks.
>>Don McCollam
>>mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
>
>Basically you have two options:
>
>A Be root and stick in a audio-CD in the CD-ROM drive and that should run
>the CDPlayer app, and you're in business!
This is assuming that you need it to autolauch. CDPlayer is suid and
so can be run by any user. I'm using with a Apple CD300 with no
problems. I've never seen it autolaunch though but "I can live with
that"
--
"C++ is the best C++ there is."
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (lon
Message-ID: <CnF4sr.7L7@world.std.com>
Keywords: Newsgrazer Pro keeps you plugged in
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <2mrsjd$a23@news.tamu.edu> <2n715s$b17@cnn.sim.ES.COM> <1994Mar29.034806.13994@millennium.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 08:55:38 GMT
>Don't blame them, blame NeXT for not creating a large enough market for
>them to make money.
Who is to say that Pages can't create a market for NEXTSTEP?
ISV's creating markets for OS vendors - What a concept! Wowee! Golly!
no smilies,
--
:: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid, Inc. :: lloyd@yrrid.com lloyd@world.std.com ::
:: If I had known it was harmless, I would have killed it myself ::
From: rommel@ars.muc.de (Kai Uwe Rommel)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2d97f3e5.415253@ars.muc.de>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 10:24:53 +0100
References: <Cn9pq2.8yq@inter.NL.net> <2n1lo6$olj@davinci.uni-paderborn.de> <2d95d09f.415253@ars.muc.de>
Organization: Private
rommel@ars.muc.de (Kai Uwe Rommel) writes in article <2d95d09f.415253@ars.muc.de>:
>>I'm also interested in some NS-PCI-Support information...
>>i plan to buy a PCI board with build in SCSI(NCR) and i'm
>>wondering if there's already driver support or something in
>>the pipeline.
>
>SCSI (NCR) support is there, although it has a few shortcomings still.
>Besides offering great performance, their driver currently can't
>address memory >16MB, due to a bug. A new driver is said to be
>released (according to NCR support people) during the end of April
>which will solve that problem. Another known problem is that current
>versions of the NCR SCSI BIOS (SDMS) can't correctly handle disks
>larger than 1 GB. Again, according NCR support people and verified by
>a board maker who uses it, a new version of it is currently in test at
>the board maker's and will soon solve this problem. Besides these two
>problems, the NCR SCSI chip on PCI boards seems to be very fast and
>also quite stable.
Sorry that my posting was misleading. I did not check the newsgroups
line. Since the original article was primarily posted to
comp.os.os2.misc, I read it there and followed up to it without
checking. The information I posted is only relevant for IBM OS/2 and
it's users.
Kai Uwe Rommel
--
/* Kai Uwe Rommel Muenchen, Germany *
* rommel@ars.muc.de CompuServe 100265,2651 *
* rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de Fax +49 89 324 4524 */
DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be. -Russell Williams
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Secure.app for Intel
Date: 31 Mar 1994 01:07:03 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9403310338.AA22147@proxima.com>
Organization: Proxima, Inc.
Does anyone know if Charles Oei has compiled/made available a fat
version of Secure?
-Eric
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: So, where's the CC or g++ in NS3.2/Intel?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 31 Mar 1994 02:45:18 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <2ndv2e$nhk@panix2.panix.com>
References: <1994Mar31.054606.19882@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Daniel Fineman (fineman@cs.washington.edu) wrote:
: I'd just *love* to be able to do my C++ homework from home;
: and now i find that there isn't a CC or g++ anywhere by itself.
: There's a /usr/include/g++ directory; how can I make the executable?
: help!
: dan
: fineman@cs.washington.edu ASCII pleeze
I was kind of distressed that this wasn't more explicit, but it is
all there. Look at CalculatorLab++ in the NeXTDeveloper/AppKit stuff
The switch for cc is -ObjC++. Good luck, RS
From: msander@bcarh63f.bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2mscul$f6p@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
Control: cancel <2mscul$f6p@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
Date: 24 Mar 1994 21:05:06 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Distribution: bnr
Message-ID: <2msva2$oa3@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
References: <2mscul$f6p@bmerha64.bnr.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye)
Subject: Setting time zone to MET? HELP!
Message-ID: <1994Mar29.135738.9279@imag.fr>
Sender: news@imag.fr
Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 13:57:38 GMT
Hi,
A long time ago, someone posted a patch to Preferences in order to make MET
zone available. Does somebody know where I can find it (I don't even remember
the name)?
In addition, how can I say that the machines are in MET time zone, and where
do I specify the DST start/end days?
Thanks in advance,
Yves.
--
Advocates for the C++ school claim that a well designed Yves
Arrouye
program does not need the extra flexibility (a lie),
Yves.Arrouye@imag.fr
while advocates for the Objective-C school claim that (33) 76 57 48
64
the errors are no problem in practice (another lie). NeXT
Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@tms-gmbh.de
Subject: Re: DTP program support Chinese fonts?
Message-ID: <CnF9M9.L6@tms-gmbh.de>
Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de
Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <2n8g01$f5m@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 10:39:44 GMT
In article <2n8g01$f5m@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu
(Chris Wong) writes:
>
> I'd like to know if there is any add-on to display and print
Chinese
> word. We are evaluating on which platform to do our
publishing work
> of a Chinese Magazine. I've got NS with PasteUp and WriteUp.
>
> Which one is the best Chinese system add-on for NS?
> Can PasteUp or WriteUp handle 16-bit Chinese fonts?
Hello Chris,
Our Publishing solution OneVision has the capability to handle
16 Bit characters and we also have a module for the different
writing directons.
I gave your adress to our asian distributor Jackson Technology.
They will give you more information
Hope it helps
Hans
From: jof@cube.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (Joerg Finzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: samplepages on NeXT
Date: 29 Mar 1994 16:00:39 GMT
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
Message-ID: <2n9jb7$oqi@pyrrhus.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
hi,
i am looking for a software-applikation to creat and print sample pages of
different fonts, to make a font book by myself
(i have seen TYPEVIEW 1.0 by VIVID as a demo, i am looking for something
like this)
you know something about free- or shareware?
hope to hear you soon,
bye y.o.s.h
==========================================================================
ORGANdesign c/o
post --> yosh finzel
alfREDstrasse 7
09119 chemnitz
GERMANY
net ---> joerg.finzel@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de
([jof] cube,herodes,dionysos)
voice -> not yet, maybe in the NeXT time
fax ---> no
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Metaresearch, Inc
Date: 28 Mar 1994 08:54:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2n660s$49r@bones.et.byu.edu>
References: <2n1cq6$i46@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
M Crawford writes
) : Metaresearch now has a product called "SoundWorks"
) : You may reach them at info@metaresearch.com
) :
) Well, you can *try* to reach them at info@metaresearch.com
) I recently managed to buy Soundworks from them, but it took a while.
) A friend here is now also trying to buy SoundWorks, and is having a lot
) of trouble getting any response.
)
) Lee et al. If you're listening -- you must be more attentive to
) business enquiries, otherwise people will give up...
It doesn't help any that apparently they were out of binders
for the docs a week or two ago. Well, my copy should be getting
here soon. :-)
By the way, spring for the phone call. They're quite responsive
over the phone, as would be expected. (503)238-5728
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: root@net23 (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP!!! SLIP ON WHITE AT 28.8
Message-ID: <CnFrAA.LGr@spcuna.spc.edu>
Date: 29 Mar 94 17:01:21 GMT
Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News)
Organization: St. Peter's College, US
Hello all, I have been having much trouble getting 28.8 SLIP to work on White
hardware...
I have a 486/dx2 66 w/32mb ram a 28.8 Modem
and a 16550 uart compatible serial card...
I am using The New transys pni slip software and every time i raise the
speed from 19200 to 38400, i start losing massive characters...
Anyone who gives me an answer on how to fix it can have a free account
mail ANY answers to razor@net23.com
Thanks in advance
Nick
razor@net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2)
Subject: swapfiles...
Message-ID: <CnDtJ3.qq@news.cis.umn.edu>
Summary: what are they?
Keywords: NeXTstep, swapfile, memory
Sender: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:56:32 GMT
Hello,
I've been noticing that my internal hard drive space has
been shrinking on the order of 2-3 MB everytime I run Mathematica
2.0 on my 'Station running NS3.0. After checking through various
directories, I found two large files in /private/vm called
swapfile and swapfile.front
I assume that vm stands for "virtual memory", and I can see why
Mathematica will use it, given the memory-eating features of the
program. The question is, how do i reclaim this space? can i delete
the swap files without any serious consequences?
Thanks for the help!
-Sharad
(BTW, please reply via email!!!)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218
Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201
Department of Neurosurgery
University of Minnesota
sharad@next1.neuro.umn.edu (NeXTmail ok!)
shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (no NeXTmail please!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Re: swapfiles...
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <CnE2x3.Kxv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:17:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
References: <CnDtJ3.qq@news.cis.umn.edu>
Organization: Purdue Data Network
In article <CnDtJ3.qq@news.cis.umn.edu> shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J
Shanbhag-2) writes:
>
> Hello,
> I've been noticing that my internal hard drive space has
> been shrinking on the order of 2-3 MB everytime I run Mathematica
> 2.0 on my 'Station running NS3.0. After checking through various
> directories, I found two large files in /private/vm called
> swapfile and swapfile.front
>
> I assume that vm stands for "virtual memory", and I can see why
> Mathematica will use it, given the memory-eating features of the
> program. The question is, how do i reclaim this space? can i delete
> the swap files without any serious consequences?
>
> Thanks for the help!
I'm sure you've been inundated with mail, but
NO!!!!!! You can't delete it without serious consequences. The
best way to reclaim it is to reboot.
Cheers - Jon
--
Jon Haveman
Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
From: jlr@gnome.East.Sun.COM (Janet L. Rimlinger Sun Systems Engineer King of Prussia, PA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Envelopes
Date: 29 Mar 1994 18:35:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2n9sd4$mdt@dr-pepper.East.Sun.COM>
References: <2n76nj$g4d@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
From my experience, most Word Processing applications have forms which
can be purchased and loaded to work with various business material
including envelopes and labels. What App are you using?
======================================================================
Janet L. Rimlinger
Systems Engineer
Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation
620 Freedom Business Center, Suite 105
King of Prussia, PA 19406
janet.rimlinger@east.sun.com
======================================================================
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 28 Mar 1994 01:43:43 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2n5uav$9op@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
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Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
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The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
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The ftp sites
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cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
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Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: stoleson@stutter.rchland.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Envelopes
Date: 29 Mar 1994 18:16:43 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester, MN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2n9rab$1k3h@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
References: <2n76nj$g4d@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
In <2n76nj$g4d@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>, dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) writes:
>
>My wife is having a lot of trouble setting up envelopes
>and printing them properly. She ways that Microsoft
>word does is just by saying PrintEnvelope. I shuddered at the
>thought that Microsoft does something better than NeXT so I,
>once again, turn to the net. Is there an easy way to set up
>printing an envelope out? Or rather, editing the address
>for printing?
>
> Any clues
There is a PD app called Poste.app, it should be on the archives somewhere. This app
can be used through the Services->Envelope menu once you have it installed. Also, since
it is a service, any app can use it. So, I guess it is better than Microsoft because you
aren't limited to any one application.
Good luck.
- dave
stoleson@vnet.ibm.com
+++ I don't speak for IBM +++
From: evans@rs560.cl.msu.edu (jeffrey d evans)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) (looking like Zeos)
Date: 29 Mar 1994 15:37:17 -0500
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <2na3ht$1iku@rs560.cl.msu.edu>
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <2n869q$1hgr@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <2n9tab$htu@risky.ecs.umass.edu>
nam@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Joonwoo Nam) writes:
< post hacked >
>: Thanks for all the info that people have sent my way. The posts got a little
>: confusing there for a while(kind of my fault) because I had originaly
>: cross-posted to many different operating system groups.
>: I think I'm going with a Zeos system. It's not my first choice, but it has
>: about what I want(I think) and I have to buy everything from one company(plus
>: it doesn't hurt that the guy signing the money order seems to like them).
>: here's the specs:
>: Pantera 60 or 66 Pentium system
>: Diamond stealth pro PCI 2mb vram(maybe 1mb) S3928
> In my knowledge, Diamonds are not suported with the exeption of the
> Cirrus chip sets. Up to now functional resolution of Diamond is reported
> to be 640x480 by someone. Are you going to hack it by yourserlf to get
> higher resolution ? I am just curious and I like to know whether I am
> out of date in this information.
Ok, heres what I found that shows this card should work:
<hacked out of xfree86-benchmarks,v 1.13 1994/03/21 00:06:15 fbm Exp fbm >
========================= XFree 2.0 Detailed Results ===========================
CPU (386/486 SX/DX etc) : 486DX2-66 MHz
Motherboard Memory : 16 MBytes
Card Vendor and Model : Diamond Stealth Pro
Card Bus (ISA/VLB/PCI) : VLB
Chipset : S3 86C928
Video Memory : 2 MBytes
Memory Type (DRAM/VRAM) : VRAM
Memory Speed :
Clock Chip :
RAMDAC :
Operating system, vern : Linux 0.99 pl 15b
XFree86 release, server : 2.0, XF86_S3
Physical resolution : 1024x768
Virtual resolution : 1024x768
Dot-clock used : 73.9 MHz
: lines fills blits arcs text complx xstones
XBench results : 451169 92442 78179 3234114 198000 149999 144678
Submitted by : lincoln@airboss.dialix.oz.au (Lincoln Dale)
Date stamp : Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:30:33
================================================================================
This person and about three others where using the VLB version of the card.
So it seems that it can work. Anyone actually using the PCI version???
>: on board fast scsi2 controller (adaptic 6360 chip set?)
> Are PCI 6360 chip set supported though on-board VLB implementation is
> treated as unsupported ? An enquiring mind ...
>p.s. All of my infomations are coming from XFree86- and SCSI-HOWTO.
I have absolutely no idea if this scsi controller is supported or not(thats
kinda the reason I posted :). I guess I didn't make that too clear. How up
to date is this SCSI-HOWTO? I assume you are either a Linux or (free/net)BSD
person. Anyone know if it is currently supported in OS/2?
I was hoping adaptic was such a big name in controllers that it would have
pretty good support. Anyone have a Zeos and know what supports it so far?
Unfortunately, I have to purchase all the components from one company, and
so far Zeos has gotten good reviews.
always looking for new info,
Jeff Evans
*** This is being cross posted, so could all replies please mention which
operating system they are talking about?
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From: philipp@res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,fr.comp.sys.next
Subject: DriverKit mailing list
Date: 29 Mar 1994 14:17:30 GMT
Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris FRANCE
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2n9d9q$9k1@enst.enst.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Keywords: driverkit, device drivers
Hi.
I thought it might be useful to create a mailing list to discuss
DriverKit questions, since this is faster and easier than voting on a
yet-another newsgroup.
I've created a mailing list called <driverkit-talk@res.enst.fr>
(note: requests for subscription should be sent to me and
neither to the
list nor as "listserv" style messages).
The goal of the list is to provide a forum for user-developed
device drivers (such as Mux1.4, the SoundBlaster driver, etc) and
perhaps eventually to provide feedback to NeXT on possible improvements
to their DriverKit and its associated documentation.
Note: DriverKit in its entirety is currently only supported on
Intel-based hardware.
In the event that fragments of code belonging to NeXT or other
vendors are exchanged, it might be necessary to verify that all
recipients of this list are in fact legitimate owners of a driverkit
license.
So, if you're are driverkit owner and this interests you, please
send me a note soon and I'll sign you up.
-Philip
From: philipp@res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Sync. Transfers and NextStep (was: Re: PCI bus cards ....)
Date: 29 Mar 1994 13:25:35 GMT
Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris FRANCE
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2n9a8f$9k1@enst.enst.fr>
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>
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In article <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>,
michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
>I don't know of anyone who's tried the PCI bus version yet, but all
>the other bus versions work: I recommend BusLogic. Their PCI card is
>the bt946c. I run an EISA bus bt747s and it's a great card.
I've been following this discussion loosely (a lot of it doesn't seem
to have anything to do with comp.sys.next), and have been wondering:
What's the point of having a fast transfer rate from the
controller-to-
bus if the controller-to-disk transfer rate is slow?
NextStep doesn't support Synchronous Transfer mode on SCSI
drives, which
means that most fast SCSI drivers have a fairly pathetic
transfer rate
(*much* less than 5MB/s under NS 3.2), even on a fast machine
with a fast
disk and a fast controller.
So IMHO, don't bother going out and getting a whizzing fast disk with a
blindingly fast 32-bit burst mode shabang 64MB on-board cache,
etc, etc.
controller until NextStep supports synchronous transfer. Buy
more RAM
and spend less time swapping...
By the way, does anyone want to venture any guesses (for our general
enlightenment) as to why Next doesn't support synchronous
transfer mode?
Does this increase the number of interrupts or complicate the
state
machine in the driver? Can the drive itself then reorder
requests
(which can lead to incoherencies if the machine crashes while
requests
are outstanding -- unlikely but possible)?
-Philip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2)
Subject: Re: swapfiles...
Message-ID: <CnE8yz.7yw@news.cis.umn.edu>
Keywords: NeXTstep, swapfile, memory
Sender: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
References: <CnDtJ3.qq@news.cis.umn.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:30:04 GMT
Well, after several email messages and a phone call (thanks Leif)
it became clear that rebooting the machine was the recommended
solution. Seems like it's worked, so thanks to all for the help!
Cheers!
Sharad
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218
Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201
Department of Neurosurgery
University of Minnesota
email:
sharad@next1.neuro.umn.edu (NeXTmail ok!)
shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (no NeXTmail please!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (lon
Message-ID: <1994Mar29.185921.14644@millennium.com>
Keywords: Newsgrazer Pro gets the red out!
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
References: <2mrsjd$a23@news.tamu.edu> <2n715s$b17@cnn.sim.ES.COM> <1994Mar29.034806.13994@millennium.com> <CnF4sr.7L7@world.std.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:59:21 GMT
In article <CnF4sr.7L7@world.std.com>, Christopher Lloyd writes:
> ISV's creating markets for OS vendors - What a concept! Wowee! Golly!
Neato. So which developer can we thank for the MCCA "market?"
__jayson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1994Mar28.185903.3753@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de
Organization: Westwerk
References: <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 18:59:03 GMT
In article <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jsvrc@edison.rc.rit.edu (J
A Stephen Viggiano) writes:
> In article <2m88n2$9g4@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes:
> >What does the merger of Adobe and Aldus hold for the future of their
> >somewhat competing products: Illustrator from Adobe and Freehand
> >(Virtuoso on NeXT) from Aldus (Altsys)?
>
> I hope like all heck it means they're going to keep Illustrator and
> sh*tcan that awful piece of dreck, Freehand.
>
> Sorry, no smileys for this one.
> --
> Look for me under the arc lights, boys . . . .
-- Bill Veeck, _Veeck_as_in_Wreck_
> ========================================================================
> John Viggiano, jsvrc@rc.rit.edu or sjvppr@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
> NAR 25615 I'm the NAR, and I vote!
ATTENTION:
The following text is a full flame attack using explicit words ...
Hey John,
shut up when you don't know what you're talking about !!!
The battle between Illustrator and Freehand/Virtuoso lasts longer than some
users know how to spell DTP. And today you can ask _professional_
graphic-designer all over the world, what they prefer:
The majority votes for Freehand, because it allows to do you work smoothly and
intuitively !
Far too many DUMB amateurs believe, that they so almighty CREATIVE because they
could afford to buy an impressive DTP-app. Take a look at business reports,
advertising, self-made-logos: All these STINK from BORING design, ridiculous
ideas and TERRIBLE hand-craft !
Illustrator (especially the new 5.0) still hasn't learned to get rid of those
FUCKING dialogs, but flashes users with oh-so-nice gradients and automatic
filters, which only brain-dead "designers" will use !
Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS !
FLAMING MODE OFF
Sorry Netters, but these words had to be spoken out ...
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Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
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mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
University of Stuttgart
2nd. Dpt. of Theoretical Physics
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: environmental vars and Emacs.app
Date: 29 Mar 1994 22:03:38 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2na8jq$15vf@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Mar27214019@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Mar27214019@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
No, Emacs when launched from the workspace is not the child of any
> shell process and so doesn't inherit any shell environment variables.
> A simple fix is to run the following function in your ~/.emacs. It
> is part of Emacs for NS and was submitted for the general GNU emacs
> distribution but rejected.
[munch nifty function]
Neat function but it fails in one important respect. The environment
variable EMACSLOADPATH gets interpreted and placed into the emacs
variable load-path. However, the given function does not do this. What
I had to do was to add a path manually in my .emacs by using the
following line:
(setq load-path (cons "/usr/local/hyperbole/src" load-path))
- Steve
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Stephen Perkins |
Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Michigan State University |
"There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Date: 29 Mar 1994 18:26:12 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2n9rs4$k9q@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <28MAR199408194324@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes:
> Hi. I only got one response so I thought I'd try again. If you're
> running CDPlayer on NeXT hardware (CPU and CD-ROM) under NS3.2,
> how'd you do it?
Part of the trick is having the CDPlayer application installed
correctly. I'm pretty sure the Installer package that it comes
from will do the job right, but apparently a number of people
have tried installing it by just copying the CDPlayer.app file
from their NeXTSTEP CD-ROM to their hard disk. If you do that,
the program won't be properly setup (and will only work if you
run it as user root).
If you have the program installed correctly, the next question
is how many SCSI devices you have on your NeXT, and what are
the SCSI ID numbers. Assuming you only have the hard disk and
your CD-ROM drive, you should be able to play CD's by simply
starting up the CDPlayer application. It will ask you to insert
a "disk" in the "external disk drive", and *after* it asks that
*then* you can insert your music CD.
If you have more SCSI devices, then it might be a bit trickier
to get it to work right.
You can also get it to work automatically by turning on "Public
Window Server", but turning that option on is a serious security
problem if your machine is connected to a network (even if it's
just a SLIP connection). Thus, I never tell people to use
anything which requires this security hazard be turned on.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse)
Subject: Timetable for NEXTSTEP on PA-RISC
Message-ID: <1994Mar29.232703.5147@alw.nih.gov>
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 23:27:03 GMT
Forgive me if this is old news, but here is what I heard
from someone at NeXT today concerning the timetable for
releasing NEXTSTEP on the PA-RISC machines:
1. beta versions will go out the third week of April
2. the "real thing" will ship in May (before Expo!)
3. the initial PA-RISC release will be 3.2 (not 3.3)
4. release 3.3 is scheduled for October
I don't know how reliable any of this is. I'm simply
passing along what I heard.
Gregg Dinse
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chuston@nugget.rmNUG.ORG (Chris Huston)
Subject: ESPRESSO: A good product
Message-ID: <1994Mar29.232551.15962@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 23:25:51 GMT
In regard to the April 94 NEXTWORLD review of ESPRESSO! from Pro-
fessional Software.
Another view:
ESPRESSO! has worked VERY well in our office. When putting to-
gether screens for a database application, ESPRESSO! and ESL do
the job wonderfully. ESPRESSO! takes care of a lot of otherwise
tedious programming hassles. (Setting fetch sort orders, building
smart qualifiers, foreign key management.)
The reviewer, undoubtedly an intelligent and competent program-
mer, significantly misunderstood the product. ESPRESSO! does NOT
limit your use of NEXTSTEP. Part of the reason we, as a company,
chose to use ESPRESSO! was the fact that it provided excellent
4GL capabilities without interfering with NEXTSTEP. The ESPRESSO!
product works almost entirely from categories added to and
delegate methods from the standard NeXT Gadget palette. In
several cases, I've windows with parts from ESPRESSO!, MiscKit,
ChartPallete (off the educational CD-ROM), with my own objects
(some with custom dbKit code that pulls from fetchGroups and
binders associated with ESPRESSO! extended objects.)
Regarding the reviewers statements:
"But the real problem with ESPRESSO! is that it locks the
developer into the subset of NEXTSTEP that Professional Software
thinks is worth while."
- Absolutely false. I don't feel that ESPRESSO! has limited
my use of NeXTSTEP in any way.
"Companies considering ESPRESSO! should carefully evaluate this
unique dependence on a proprietary language and compiler."
- Agreed, with the same prudence as they have with pswraps and
the NeXT modified GCC.
"Companies that don't want to dead-end on the road to high-speed
application development with NEXTSTEP would do well to skip the
coffee break..."
- Since ESPRESSO! doesn't really effect your current
development environment, this is an erroneous conclusion.
ESPRESSO! has SIGNIFICANTLY improved my productivity and allowed
me to spend more time focusing on the unique aspects of my appli-
cation.
After implementing a fairly large and time critical application
using ESPRESSO!, I believe PSI has created a product that is en-
tirely in keeping with the NEXTSTEP paradigm and is an excellent
tool.
The April article was misguided, unusually severe and has falsely
maligned an excellent tool.
The people at Professional Software have been exceptionally
responsive with questions and fixes, they are one of the few com-
panies I am happy to be working with - their professionalism is
what prompted me to write this posting. All to often the most un-
pleasant part of my job is dealing with vendors - PSI is an ex-
ception. (As is Xanthus [Questor], and Schema Research [SchemaE])
Chris Huston
I.S. Manager
D.C. Dudley & Associates
From: psuver@u.washington.edu (Phil Suver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Soft PC and 3270 emulation
Date: 29 Mar 1994 23:52:27 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <2naevr$sed@news.u.washington.edu>
Summary: SoftPC and 3270 Emulation
Keywords: Soft PC and 3270 Emulation
We currently have an eval copy of SoftPC that we are using on our
NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel network. We would like to see if we can gain
access to our IBM Mainframe via SNA (Token-Ring) network access. I would
be curious to know how the Intel Token Express card can handle the TCP/IP
on the Next side and still juggle the SNA on the DOS/Windows side. I
know we can get Novell access (though extrememly slow) but would like
more info on the 3270 emulation side. Thanks.
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: MakeTeXPK and 600 dpi fonts
Date: 29 Mar 1994 18:43:37 -0500
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2naef9$2kh@dorito.cs.umd.edu>
Howdy,
I'm trying to use 600 dpi fonts (e.g. computer modern) in LaTeX on
NS/I 3.2. 300 dpi fonts work fine, but MakeTeXPK doesn't seem to handle
600 dpi fonts. Has someone already modified this script to support
600 dpi laser printers? Thanks!
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty)
Subject: quotas
Message-ID: <1994Mar30.011736.14845@serval.net.wsu.edu>
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 94 01:17:36 GMT
Has anyone found a way to get disk quotas on a NeXT?
If I am just missing something, I hope that someone will let me know.
Please email responses and I will post a summary.
BTW, NS3.2 on black hardware.
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From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Timetable for NEXTSTEP on PA-RISC
Date: 30 Mar 1994 02:51:41 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
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References: <1994Mar29.232703.5147@alw.nih.gov>
In article <1994Mar29.232703.5147@alw.nih.gov> dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov writes:
>Forgive me if this is old news, but here is what I heard
>from someone at NeXT today concerning the timetable for
>releasing NEXTSTEP on the PA-RISC machines:
>
>1. beta versions will go out the third week of April
>2. the "real thing" will ship in May (before Expo!)
>3. the initial PA-RISC release will be 3.2 (not 3.3)
>4. release 3.3 is scheduled for October
>
>I don't know how reliable any of this is. I'm simply
>passing along what I heard.
>
>Gregg Dinse
Well, that would explain some of the things I've been hearing about
3.3 getting pushed back. I was wondering why they would delay the release of
the HP port so long, but if the initial HP version is 3.2, that makes more
sense.
On the other hand, this isn't great news to me. While we will welcome
the HP port, and buy machines to run it on, I have to admit I was more excited
about the enhancements that were/are due in 3.3, namely the support of 8 bit
color (great for laptop owners), NeXTTIME, and PCMCIA support (again a big
boon for laptop owners), not to mention a bunch more drivers (possibly even a
repaired serial driver).
Does anyone know if any of these enhancements will be made available
before the release of 3.3, now that 3.3 is so far away?
Rich Ogata
rogata@arpa.mil
From: jesse@mocha.ucsd.edu (Jesse D. Goldberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Network DOOM on the NEXT
Date: 30 Mar 1994 03:39:33 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <2nas9l$o5j@network.ucsd.edu>
Has anyone been able to get DOOM to work in multi-player mode
on the NeXT. We have two NeXT machines on the internet and we've
tried to start DOOM with the -net 2 option but when the second person
tries to initialize we get the message
BindToPort: bind: Address already in use
If anyone has been successful in this undertaking, we'd greatly
appreciate your help (although our advisors won't be so happy).
-Jesse Goldberg
jesse@mocha.ucsd.edu
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From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
Subject: Re: HELP!!! SLIP ON WHITE AT 28.8
Message-ID: <1994Mar30.061834.29269@venice.sedd.trw.com>
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 06:18:34 GMT
In article <CnFrAA.LGr@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23 (Operator) writes:
> Hello all, I have been having much trouble getting 28.8 SLIP to work on
> White hardware...
>
> I have a 486/dx2 66 w/32mb ram a 28.8 Modem
> and a 16550 uart compatible serial card...
>
> I am using The New transys pni slip software and every time i raise the
> speed from 19200 to 38400, i start losing massive characters...
>
> Anyone who gives me an answer on how to fix it can have a free account
> mail ANY answers to razor@net23.com
>
> Thanks in advance
> Nick
> razor@net23.com
I have the same configuration, less the 28.8K modem. Even so, the
compression on my 14400 overwhelmed my 19.2K serial port. The solution
was to download and install the Mux driver from cs.orst.edu
(/pub/next/sources/drivers/MuxDriverSRC1.4.tar.gz). Installation was
straightforward and now at 38.4K I get text throughput up to 3 kbytes/sec.
The difference is noticeable.
-- Ron
blanford@gemstone.com
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From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer)
Subject: Re: Setting time zone to MET? HELP!
Message-ID: <1994Mar30.074046.22973@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
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References: <1994Mar29.135738.9279@imag.fr>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 07:40:46 GMT
In article <1994Mar29.135738.9279@imag.fr> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves
Arrouye) writes:
> A long time ago, someone posted a patch to Preferences in order to make
> MET zone available. Does somebody know where I can find it (I don't even
> remember the name)?
>
> In addition, how can I say that the machines are in MET time zone, and
> where do I specify the DST start/end days?
Get /pub/comp/platforms/next/Patches/TimeZonePatch.tar.gz from
ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de, unpack it and follow the instructions of the
README (most likely the patch is also somewhere on cs.orst.edu).
Then you just have to change your timezone in Preferences to MET and
everything (including DST start/end days) will work as it is supposed to.
Sebastian
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From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer)
Subject: Re: samplepages on NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Mar30.084122.24906@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
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References: <2n9jb7$oqi@pyrrhus.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 08:41:22 GMT
In article <2n9jb7$oqi@pyrrhus.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
jof@cube.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (Joerg Finzel) writes:
> hi,
> i am looking for a software-applikation to create and print sample pages
> of different fonts, to make a font book by myself
> (i have seen TYPEVIEW 1.0 by VIVID as a demo, i am looking for something
> like this)
> you know something about free- or shareware?
Get /pub/comp/platforms/next/Fonts/apps/FontLister.1.01.N.b.gz from
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (most likely also available on cs.orst.edu).
By the way, the uni-muenchen ftp-server is (or was) mirrored by
ftp.mb3.tu-chemnitz.de at your university.
Sebastian
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Technical University Munich, Germany
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From: stimpy@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us (Gary L.)
Subject: Re: SLIP
Message-ID: <CnFnE3.But@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us>
Organization: toadstool, Ann Arbor, MI
References: <matt.19.0009D0D9@pass.wayne.edu> <2n6scm$771@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 15:37:14 GMT
>Note to louie if he's listening. cs.orst.edu got vandalized the other
>day so anything in submissions is history.
why do you make rash judgements?????
if you read the README you would know everything FINALLY got put in the
proper directories......
NOTHING got deleted (as far as I can tell)
look before you leap......
STiMPY
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Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Message-ID: <1994Mar30.015704.1516@earlham.edu>
From: rabahya@earlham.edu
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 94 01:57:00 -500
References: <>,<2n8mcs$3g5@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Distribution: world
Organization: Earlham College
In Article <2n8mcs$3g5@steffi.demon.co.uk>
robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>rabahya@earlham.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>>In Article <28MAR199408194324@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
>>citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes:
>>>Hi. I only got one response so I thought I'd try again. If you're running
>>>CDPlayer on NeXT hardware (CPU and CD-ROM) under NS3.2, how'd you do it?
>>>Thanks.
>>>Don McCollam
>>>mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
>>
>>Basically you have two options:
>>
>>A Be root and stick in a audio-CD in the CD-ROM drive and that should run
>>the CDPlayer app, and you're in business!
>
>This is assuming that you need it to autolauch. CDPlayer is suid and
>so can be run by any user. I'm using with a Apple CD300 with no
>problems. I've never seen it autolaunch though but "I can live with
>that"
As far as I remember, the CD drive ejected the audio-CD when I put it in the
drive while not being root, but it liked it when I was root and auto launched
the CDPlayer.app Any ideas why that happened?
---
Jack A. Rabah Earlham College / | | _
Computer Science Dept. \ | | / \
rabahya@yang.earlham.edu | / | | / \
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From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Metaresearch, Inc
Date: 30 Mar 1994 12:31:14 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2nbrei$ros@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <2n1cq6$i46@hippo.shef.ac.uk> <2n660s$49r@bones.et.byu.edu>
: By the way, spring for the phone call. They're quite responsive
: over the phone, as would be expected. (503)238-5728
:
Seconded -- that's how I got through eventually!
Apart from that, I just got a message from Lee telling me that they've been
having problems with their mail, so 'phoning does seem like the best bet.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
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From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: ZyXEL Answering Machine?
Message-ID: <1994Mar29.212123.25398@radical2.radical.com>
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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 21:21:23 GMT
Does anyone have the ZyXEL Answering Machine by "Jolly" working? The file I
recently downloaded from cs.orst.edu is am1.00.0.tar.Z and appears to be a
"beta2" version. Is there a newer version somewhere? If you got "am" to work,
would you e-mail what you did and tell me if it's worth the trouble?
Thanks.
--
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From: mohan@tulip (Mohan Pakkurti)
Subject: Catalog of all software for NeXTSTEP ?
Message-ID: <CnHAAx.8BJ@utnetw.utoledo.edu>
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:44 GMT
Hello:
I want to know if there is any brochure which lists all software available for
the NeXT OS. Please let me know if you know about this. Thanks very much.
//Mohan
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: MakeTeXPK and 600 dpi fonts
Date: 30 Mar 1994 14:40:48 GMT
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany
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References: <2naef9$2kh@dorito.cs.umd.edu>
In article <2naef9$2kh@dorito.cs.umd.edu> rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
>Howdy,
Fine, thanks!
> I'm trying to use 600 dpi fonts (e.g. computer modern) in LaTeX on
>NS/I 3.2. 300 dpi fonts work fine, but MakeTeXPK doesn't seem to handle
>600 dpi fonts. Has someone already modified this script to support
>600 dpi laser printers? Thanks!
A problem I solved 4 weeks ago. You have to modify the MakeTeXPK, but you
also have to change the mf-bases to recognice another output_mode.
So I think more and more people are getting 600dpi at their hands, I
uploaded an archive containing all needed files. You only will have to
install them in the right places. See the README in this archive.
You'll find a file called: 600dpi.tar.gz
on the ftp-server: cs.orst.edu
in directory: /pub/next/submissions
this file will go to another place by time ..
Feel free to ask further questions. My e-mail adress:
moellney@michi.bota.uni-bonn.de (NeXTMAIL)
>--
>Ross Cutler
>University of Maryland, College Park
>Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
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From: jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu (John Alegre)
Subject: PPP on NeXT.
Message-ID: <CnHoEF.B4n@news.cis.umn.edu>
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:56:06 GMT
We are trying to set up a PPP connection on NeXT O.S. 3.2. We
have never done this before and do not know where to start.
We need something that is fairly easy to configure.
We have heard about a package that runs on Sun called dp.
This is supposed to be fairly easy to configure.
Is there a version of dp for NeXT?
Is there an alternative package?
The machine we wish to PPP to is a Sun running SunOS 4.1.x.
Thank you
John N. Alegre
Andante Systems
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From: bruce@pages.com (Bruce Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (lon
Date: 30 Mar 1994 12:54:24 -0600
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Message-ID: <9403301849.AA11328@pages.com>
In comp.sys.next.software article <2n715s$b17@cnn.sim.ES.COM> Nevin Pratt
wrote:
> In article a23@news.tamu.edu, lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes:
>
> I'll bet the *real* reason that it took so long for Pages to ship is
> that they tried so hard to make the core of the app "portable", without
> necessarily being tied to NeXTSTEP. This suspicion will be confirmed,
> in my mind, if within the next few months Pages is suddenly released
> for Windows or OS/2 or Solaris or something.
>
Let me say this much. When we talk about the internals of Pages, we are
talking about what is probably one of the most complicated chunks of NextStep
that has yet been written. If you folks are curious about how we built it,
please feel free to use one of the many fine Mach-O dissasemblers out there and
take a look. You will see hundreds of Objective-C classes.
It took along time because it was complicated. It's more than a word
processor. It's more than Frame, or Quark. It's a new animal.
It also took a long time because we didn't want to ship something that looked
like it had be duct-taped together at the last moment. The Next community
wants quality, and you can't rush perfection.
I am glad we had Objective-C and NextStep... or we may have never been able to
complete it.
>
> My own feeling is almost a feeling of betrayal when a developer
> writes a "portable" app on the NeXT, because (1) I know the
> costs involved, and (2) it feels to me like they've rejected
> NeXTSTEP, and only want pieces of it.
Don't feel betrayed. We're still here and we like it!
Bruce (spudking)
Henderson
From: kunkle@harry.cofc.edu (Tom Kunkle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GIF and TIFF
Date: 30 Mar 1994 19:27:06 GMT
Organization: Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia
Message-ID: <2ncjqa$j5a@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu>
Is there an easy way to view
TIFF or .GIF graphics
files in NS3.2?
(Such files are frequently
availableover the net)
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: does Mathematica NextStep have dynamic object linking?
Date: 30 Mar 1994 19:10:05 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nciqd$d50@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Does the latest release of Mathematica for NextStep have dynamic object
linking?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland)
Subject: SoftPC and lj2ps...
Message-ID: <CnHMEo.Fvr@agedwards.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:11:11 GMT
Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc.
I have a program (TurboTax for DOS) running under SoftPC. I can't
believe it, but TurboTax supports about a hundred gazillion different
printers, and not a single one of them is POSTSCRIPT!!!! That feels
better.
Now, what I really want to do is print out my tax return (actually,
I don't since I owe :-(). So, I selected the "Laserjet" option in
SoftPC->Preferences->LPT, which uses a program included with SoftPC
known as "lj2ps". When I printed, though, lj2ps appears to have
gotten quite upset with what TurboTax was sending it; several messages
which looked like error reports appeared in the Console.
So, does anybody know where I might pick up source to lj2ps? Anybody
have any luck getting this to work properly?
BTW, since this is dealing with taxes, there *is* a deadline,
so if you have answers (even things you think are stupid), I'd
love to hear about them.
Mucho Thanks!
-cj
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From: hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: AMS TeX on NeXT
Date: 30 Mar 1994 20:18:59 GMT
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <2ncmrj$jjg@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
References: <1994Mar26.033829.2567@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
In article <1994Mar26.033829.2567@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> raptor!rlove (Robert B.
Love ) writes:
> Has anyone built AMSTeX 2.1 for NeXT. I'm having a bitch of a time
> and would like help from anybody who has gotten the fonts right.
> The tfm files seem to be moved into the directories where they belong
> and the format seems to build but any document I try to process, like
> the AMSTeX Guide gives all kinds of warning errors about cmcsc8,
> msam10, cmbsy7, and eufm10. Running the contents of missfont.log
> fails too. How do I get this working?
>
> All help appreciated.
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
> BIX: rlove
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
Some time ago I wrapped up AMS-TeX and AMS-LaTeX into a package so that
it can be (de)installed with 'Installer.app'. If people are interested I'll
fish it out and submit it somewhere (perhaps I should get AMS'
permission first ?).
Let me know by email preferably.
--
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Dept of Physics, Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London)
Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, United Kingdom
Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail)
Tel: +44 71-975-5055
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIF and TIFF
Date: 30 Mar 1994 14:51:54 -0600
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It was written in comp.sys.next.software article
<2ncjqa$j5a@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu>:
Is there an easy way to view
TIFF or .GIF graphics
files in NS3.2?
(Such files are frequently
availableover the net)
Yes, grab ImageViewer.app off the archives.
Specifically:
FTP Site:
cs.orst.edu
Directory:
pub/next/binaries/graphics
Relevant Files
ImageViewer-0.9i.README
ImageViewer-0.9i.tar.Z
I assume that it will work on 3.2, it does on 3.1
I assume also that this is the newest version of the app, but that
could be wrong also.
---
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No Root access, no super-user access
From: jlr@gnome.East.Sun.COM (Janet L. Rimlinger Sun Systems Engineer King of Prussia, PA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIF and TIFF
Date: 30 Mar 1994 21:10:30 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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References: <2ncjqa$j5a@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu>
I have just asked a similar question.
Image App Summary
------------------
Name Desc System ftp location
---------------------------------------------------------------
tif2ras tiff to Sun raster Sun ?
xv various image formats Sun comp.sources.x
pbmplus various image formats Sun ?
xtiff various image formats Sun ?
Image Alchemy Handmade Software, Inc. ?
(408)358-1292
Imagetool/imconv NeXT ftp.sdsc.edu
NeXT cs.orst.edu pub/next/graphic
PixelMagician Bacchus ($250) NeXT
tiffutil NeXT
PhotoShop Mac
ImageViewer.app <see below> unsure, try above
Format Desciption Operations
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
atkras Andrew Rasterfiles (binary and ascii) read
gif Graphics Interchange Format read
itex ITEX Framegrabber Files read write
pbm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Bitmaps (binary) read write
pgm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Graymaps (binary) read write
ppm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Pixmaps (binary) read write
jpg3 JPEG File Interchange Format (JFIF) read write
macp1 MacPaint Documents read write
mtek Mikrotek Scanner Files read
eps PostScript Encapsulated Files read write
ps PostScript (plain) write
ras2 Sun Rasterfiles read write
rle UTAH Run-length Encoded Rasterfiles read
icon Sun Icon Files (old and new format read write
tiff Tagged Image File Format read write
face USENET Face Files read write
xbm X11 Bitmaps read write
ilisp Xerox Interlisp-D Source read
brush Xerox Brush/Press Files read
ais Xerox Array of Intensity Samples read
1 or macpaint.
2 or sunras, rast, rf.
3 or jpeg; uses the Independent JPEG Group's decoder S 1991, Thomas G. Lane
Anonymous ftp sites by:
ftp <site code>
login: anonymous
password: <email address>
ftp>cd /pub (usually)
I hope this helps!
======================================================================
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Systems Engineer
Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation
620 Freedom Business Center, Suite 105
King of Prussia, PA 19406
janet.rimlinger@east.sun.com
======================================================================
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIF and TIFF
Date: 30 Mar 1994 21:03:59 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <2ncpfv$3a6@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
References: <9403302050.AA04380@alleg.EDU>
How about .JPGs? I haven't found a program to view them yet...
Daniel
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From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: JPG viewer...gee whiz
Date: 31 Mar 1994 00:01:18 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <2nd3se$68a@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Fun, fun...I had tried to view a JPG file with ImageViewer. The error
message it returned was something like "don't know how to hand the file
NAME.JPG"--well, why not? OK...maybe you don't view JPGs. Well,
somebody wrote me and told me that ImageViewer DOES view JPG files. So,
I tried changing the name from NAME.JPG to name.jpg, and, Voila, it
worked. Gee whiz...shouldn't it just read the contents of the file and
see that it's a JPG file? Did it HAVE to be in lower case? That seems
to be a bit nit-picky to me.
Oh well. Thanks to those who helped.
Daniel
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From: maynard@selway.umt.edu (Robert L Maynard)
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Message-ID: <1994Mar31.010859.1419@selway.umt.edu>
Organization: University of Montana, Missoula
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> <2n0s6v$jil@u.cc.utah.edu>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 01:08:59 GMT
RE: an interesting post from Terry Lambert on the hardware ramifications of
misprogramming a video card.
One of the last things said relates to competitors building the same card
and being smarter programmers.
I would be willing to bet that ANY experienced video board engineer can
know a Diamond board as well as Diamond does in just a few weeks.
Diamond may be keeping tech info from the public, but they are keeping
NOTHING from their competitors.
Bob
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From: ferguson@improv.music.mcgill.ca (Sean Ferguson)
Subject: draw.app problem
Message-ID: <1994Mar31.030434.29420@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 03:04:34 GMT
I'm having trouble with the new version of draw.app in system 3.2. In the
previous release (2.x) you could select text and then change the darkness
of it by selecting 'line' from the inspector window and changing the
slider. I can't seem to do this in the new version. Does anyone know
how to change the darkness of text in draw 3.2? I want to be able to
place black text in front of grey.
Thanks,
Sean Ferguson
From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: REQUEST: QWK offline reader for NeXT
Date: 31 Mar 1994 03:53:56 GMT
Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Richmond, BC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ndhgk$njs@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com>
Does anyone have a QWK offline news reader for the NeXT??
Thanks,
Martin Bublitz
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From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman)
Subject: So, where's the CC or g++ in NS3.2/Intel?
Message-ID: <1994Mar31.054606.19882@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 05:46:06 GMT
I'd just *love* to be able to do my C++ homework from home;
and now i find that there isn't a CC or g++ anywhere by itself.
There's a /usr/include/g++ directory; how can I make the executable?
help!
dan
fineman@cs.washington.edu ASCII pleeze
From: michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon)
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Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 31 Mar 94 06:24:25 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <michaelv.765095065@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> <2n0s6v$jil@u.cc.utah.edu> <1994Mar31.010859.1419@selway.umt.edu>
In <1994Mar31.010859.1419@selway.umt.edu> maynard@selway.umt.edu (Robert L Maynard) writes:
>RE: an interesting post from Terry Lambert on the hardware ramifications of
>misprogramming a video card.
>One of the last things said relates to competitors building the same card
>and being smarter programmers.
>I would be willing to bet that ANY experienced video board engineer can
>know a Diamond board as well as Diamond does in just a few weeks.
>Diamond may be keeping tech info from the public, but they are keeping
>NOTHING from their competitors.
>Bob
Not only that, but several of their competitors are able to build
boards just as fast or faster without any detailed knowledge of
Diamond products. I don't know what makes them think they're the only
company who can engineer a high performance video board.
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From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Pages or PasteUp?
Message-ID: <1994Mar31.093512.747@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 09:35:12 GMT
Well, now suddenly there seem to be two exiting dtp products out for
NEXTSTEP? I read the Pages Technology White Paper from Pages and it seems
great. I'd like to know more about PasteUP, and especially how do they
compare?
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"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages or PasteUp?
Date: 31 Mar 1994 11:13:01 GMT
Message-ID: <MARCUS.94Mar31031301@tdb.ee.pdx.edu>
References: <1994Mar31.093512.747@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
In-reply-to: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl's message of Thu, 31 Mar 1994 09:35:12 GMT
>>>>> "Gerben" == Gerben Wierda <gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> writes:
In article <1994Mar31.093512.747@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
Gerben> Well, now suddenly there seem to be two exiting dtp products
Gerben> out for NEXTSTEP? I read the Pages Technology White Paper from
Gerben> Pages and it seems great. I'd like to know more about PasteUP,
Gerben> and especially how do they compare?
PasteUp would be fine if:
1. If the text handling was much faster.
2. If there were less damn panels everywhere, other misc. quirks.
3. If it didn't crash every five minutes.
I haven't bothered checking into the status of 2.2. When, how much, etc.?
Anyone know?
In order for PasteUp to be much more useful than Virtuoso, or Tailor, for
that matter, it needs lots more attention paid to text layout, and
import/export features. 3.0 object linking would be nice too.
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages or PasteUp?
Date: 31 Mar 1994 12:05:00 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2nee9c$j9s@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <1994Mar31.093512.747@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> <MARCUS.94Mar31031301@tdb.ee.pdx.edu>
In article <MARCUS.94Mar31031301@tdb.ee.pdx.edu>,
Marcus Daniels <marcus@ee.pdx.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> "Gerben" == Gerben Wierda <gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> writes:
>In article <1994Mar31.093512.747@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
>
>
>Gerben> Well, now suddenly there seem to be two exiting dtp products
>Gerben> out for NEXTSTEP? I read the Pages Technology White Paper from
>Gerben> Pages and it seems great. I'd like to know more about PasteUP,
>Gerben> and especially how do they compare?
>
>PasteUp would be fine if:
>
>1. If the text handling was much faster.
>2. If there were less damn panels everywhere, other misc. quirks.
>3. If it didn't crash every five minutes.
>
>I haven't bothered checking into the status of 2.2. When, how much, etc.?
>Anyone know?
>
PasteUp 2.5, which reportedly fixes a lot of weirdness, will
be out soon. I hope it's less buggy than 2.1, which is promising
but largely unusable.
Pages 1.0 is much more solid and much faster than PasteUp 2.1, but
seems to have problems when I use the pasteboard. Large cut/paste
operations sometimes make it quit unexpectedly. It also drops all
accented characters on imports and cut/pastes. Pages has promised
to fix this soon.
Use PasteUp (if improved) if you want to manipulate text to
your heart's content. You can make the biggest mess you want.
Use Pages if you have a lot of text that needs formatting
right away. It pours it into "design models" which can be
almost endlessly varied, but are still limited. For
example, you cannot choose point size of text, not is
there manual kerning. Some limitations are very maddening,
but it is all in all a superb effort and usuable right now.
R. de Lucca
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From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: Re: Network DOOM on the NEXT
Message-ID: <1994Mar31.083401.21205@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <2nas9l$o5j@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 08:34:01 GMT
In article <2nas9l$o5j@network.ucsd.edu> jesse@mocha.ucsd.edu (Jesse D.
Goldberg) writes:
> Has anyone been able to get DOOM to work in multi-player mode
> on the NeXT. We have two NeXT machines on the internet and we've
> tried to start DOOM with the -net 2 option but when the second person
> tries to initialize we get the message
> BindToPort: bind: Address already in use
>
> If anyone has been successful in this undertaking, we'd greatly
> appreciate your help (although our advisors won't be so happy).
>
> -Jesse Goldberg
> jesse@mocha.ucsd.edu
>
One should be 2 the other should be 1... Wait how should I know that... I'm
too busy to be playing games ;^)
---
Man, that needle was really
starting to piss me off!
Kevin Solie
Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Director: Kentucky NeXTSTEP Users Group
Software Engineer: Alternate Worlds Technology
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From: steve@tarski.math.nd.edu(Steven Buechler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: JPG viewer...gee whiz
Date: 31 Mar 1994 14:24:01 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <940331092457.840AABpG.steve@tarski>
References: <2nd3se$68a@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
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>Date: 31 Mar 1994 00:01:18 GMT
>From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)>Subject: JPG viewer...gee whiz
>
>Fun, fun...I had tried to view a JPG file with ImageViewer. The error
>message it returned was something like "don't know how to hand the file
>NAME.JPG"--well, why not? OK...maybe you don't view JPGs. Well,
>somebody wrote me and told me that ImageViewer DOES view JPG files. So,
>I tried changing the name from NAME.JPG to name.jpg, and, Voila, it
>worked. Gee whiz...shouldn't it just read the contents of the file and
>see that it's a JPG file? Did it HAVE to be in lower case? That seems
>to be a bit nit-picky to me.
>
>Oh well. Thanks to those who helped.
>
>Daniel
>--
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>
>Daniel_LHommedieu@nest.catt.ncsu.edu
> eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
>
For good or bad extensions are case sensitive. Perhaps you have an older
version of ImageViewer because the one I am using list .JPG in the services
file inside the wrapper and converts them as it does .jpg. The version I have
is .9i. There are filters out there that will convert .jpg files, but not
.JPGs. I guess it's something the developer just has to keep in mind.
Steve
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From: igerard@bipbip.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Doom
Date: 31 Mar 1994 16:35:28 GMT
Organization: INA, Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Bry-sur-Marne, France
Message-ID: <2neu4g$3hi@wolfy.ina.fr>
Hello,
Congratulation to the ID team for their NEXTSTEP version of Doom....
Who know how to buy the version by email or fax number
Thanks
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From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (lon
Date: 31 Mar 1994 15:51:52 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nerio$gu1@cnn.sim.ES.COM>
References: <9403301849.AA11328@pages.com>
Hi Bruce:
I appreciate your response. It was almost like sauve on a festering wound.
And, I apologize for what could easily be construed as making a negative
comment about your development efforts. It looks like I was wrong, and
I am *glad* I was wrong.
Thanks,
Nevin
In article AA11328@pages.com, bruce@pages.com (Bruce Henderson) writes:
> In comp.sys.next.software article <2n715s$b17@cnn.sim.ES.COM> Nevin Pratt
> wrote:
> > > I'll bet the *real* reason that it took so long for Pages to ship is
> > that they tried so hard to make the core of the app "portable"..[munch]
>
> Let me say this much. When we talk about the internals of Pages, we are
> talking about what is probably one of the most complicated chunks of NextStep
> that has yet been written. If you folks are curious about how we built it,
> please feel free to use one of the many fine Mach-O dissasemblers out there and
> take a look. You will see hundreds of Objective-C classes.
> It took along time because it was complicated. It's more than a word
> processor. It's more than Frame, or Quark. It's a new animal.
>
> It also took a long time because we didn't want to ship something that looked
> like it had be duct-taped together at the last moment. The Next community
> wants quality, and you can't rush perfection.
> I am glad we had Objective-C and NextStep... or we may have never been able to
> complete it.
> > My own feeling is almost a feeling of betrayal when a developer
> > writes a "portable" app on the NeXT, because (1) I know the
> > costs involved, and (2) it feels to me like they've rejected
> > NeXTSTEP, and only want pieces of it.
>
> Don't feel betrayed. We're still here and we like it!
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: swapfiles...
Date: 30 Mar 1994 10:10:31 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2nbfm7$3kf@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
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Keywords: NeXTstep, swapfile, memory
shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2) writes:
>I assume that vm stands for "virtual memory", and I can see why
>Mathematica will use it, given the memory-eating features of the
>program. The question is, how do i reclaim this space? can i delete
>the swap files without any serious consequences?
Try it once and you'll never ask again!!! :-)
--
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
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From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1994Mar31.162459.19727@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1994Mar18.034300.2268@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <1994Mar28.185903.3753@westwerk.cube.de>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:24:59 GMT
Don't candy-coat it Michael, tell us how you really feel! Thanks for
the kind words too. Of course I too am biased towards FreeHand and its
evil twin Virtuoso. Although I must say there is some cool stuff in AI
5.
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: Robin Bush <robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there a better Thesaurus out there?
Date: 31 Mar 1994 17:12:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2nf09e$kqh@news.service.uci.edu>
Anyone know of a thesaurus for the NeXT that is better than the one
provided by Digital Webster?
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Robin
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From: cqwinterbottom@ucdavis.edu
Subject: Marble Teleconnect and Cisco Server
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:09:49 GMT
Anyone using Marble Teleconnect w/BOOTP to dial into a Cisco server? I'm having trouble
with a login script/ connecting.
Any and all help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
CQW
From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AT&T DataPort 14.4/Fax modem
Date: 31 Mar 94 11:50:35
Organization: Brigham Young University-Math. Dept
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SMITHW.94Mar31115035@sofya.hamblin.math.byu.edu>
I have a (free!) AT&T DataPort 14.4/Fax modem at home, and I also
have a Nextstation running 3.0 at home. Any way to get the modem
to send faxes from the station? I use it login to my machine at work
using the old communicae package but faxing is what I would like to
do now instead of having to run to work to do it. Thanks.
-Bill
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From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIF and TIFF
Date: 31 Mar 1994 03:43:30 -0800
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2ned12$i32@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2ncjqa$j5a@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu> <2ncps6$r82@dr-pepper.East.Sun.COM>
Janet L. Rimlinger writes:
>Image App Summary
>------------------
[summary]
Don't forget OmniImageFilter and OmniImage, which provide a nice front
end to the SDSC image conversion tools. We handle about 40 different
formats (including JPEG and GIF), which I believe is more than any other
tool.
We haven't put these on the archive sites because we're having trouble
getting the underlying libraries fat, but if you're on black hardware
you might check 'em out:
ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software
-Wil
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From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Message-ID: <1994Mar31.231031.2206@wuphys.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET)
Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis
References: <> <2n8mcs$3g5@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Mar30.015704.1516@earlham.edu>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 23:10:31 GMT
In article <1994Mar30.015704.1516@earlham.edu> rabahya@earlham.edu writes:
>
>In Article <2n8mcs$3g5@steffi.demon.co.uk>
>robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>>rabahya@earlham.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>>>In Article <28MAR199408194324@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
>>>citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes:
>>>>Hi. I only got one response so I thought I'd try again. If you're running
>>>>CDPlayer on NeXT hardware (CPU and CD-ROM) under NS3.2, how'd you do it?
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>Don McCollam
>>>>mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
>>>
>>>Basically you have two options:
>>>
>>>A Be root and stick in a audio-CD in the CD-ROM drive and that should run
>>>the CDPlayer app, and you're in business!
>>
>>This is assuming that you need it to autolauch. CDPlayer is suid and
>>so can be run by any user. I'm using with a Apple CD300 with no
>>problems. I've never seen it autolaunch though but "I can live with
>>that"
>
>As far as I remember, the CD drive ejected the audio-CD when I put it in the
>drive while not being root, but it liked it when I was root and auto launched
>the CDPlayer.app Any ideas why that happened?
>
>---
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> ** Here's the fortune cookie of the day.. ---------- -----------
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>
>A coward is a hero with a wife, kids, and a mortgage.
> -- Marvin Kitman
>
I just start up CDPlayer and it asks me to put a CD in the drive. When I put
the CD in, I punch a button (with the mouse) to start it playing, and off it
goes. I do have some (nifty black) stereo speakers plugged into the CDRom
drive through which the sound comes. I have all NeXT hardware (besides the
speakers) and I am running 3.2.
If I put a CD in the drive without starting CDPlayer first, it is ejected.
Cheers,
Don Petcher
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From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (lon
Message-ID: <1994Mar31.163351.4746@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <CnF4sr.7L7@world.std.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:33:51 GMT
In article <CnF4sr.7L7@world.std.com> lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher
Lloyd) writes:
> >Don't blame them, blame NeXT for not creating a large enough market for
> >them to make money.
>
> Who is to say that Pages can't create a market for NEXTSTEP?
> ISV's creating markets for OS vendors - What a concept! Wowee! Golly!
Well, to be fair, only apps in breakthrough categories have proven able
to serve as demand creators for operating systems. Apple II = Visicalc;
IBM PC = Lotus123; Macintosh = DTP; Windows = ??? (MS marketing muscle,
I guess). For the most part, shrink-wrap software is targeted for demand
fulfillment, not demand creation. No amount of technical coolness will
change that equation, unless the shrink-wrapped product serves a strongly
expressed customer need that is not fulfillable elsewhere.
In NEXTSTEP, MCCA is the demand creator. Here at AFS, we are fortunate to
have a place in each arena. Our custom trading software and objects are
demand creators (bring new customers to the platform), and WriteUp/PasteUp
are demand fulfillers (keep them there by rounding out the toolset).
--
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From: rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
Subject: Unter Ecker email address (ComposeInColor)???
Message-ID: <CnK10n.EEw@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 00:21:59 GMT
Does anyone have an email address for UnterEcker Software, the publisher
of ComposeInColor? I need to contact someone there, but I hate having to
send regular snail mail --- especially to Portugal! :-)
Thanks!
-Rob
rawyatt@csn.org (TEXT ONLY!!!)
rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: tranparent question
Message-ID: <CnHo2q.D51@chemelex.com>
Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Organization: Research Group of Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:47:13 GMT
Say, how does one fill a space with a translucent or transparent
(but not quite totally clear) color? I've got a few apps (Adobe
Illustrator, and Diagram! 2, that I'd like to use to with these
type colors. Is it possible and how is it done.
I'm running a NeXT cube with a Dimension board, thanks,
Fred Schenkelberg
NeXTmail enjoyed
fms@chemelex.com
Redwood City, CA
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Subject: Re: Network DOOM on the NEXT
Message-ID: <1994Mar31.205749.6255@math.enmu.edu>
From: finkenst@almond (Tim Finkenstadt)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 20:57:49 GMT
Sender: news@math.enmu.edu
References: <2nas9l$o5j@network.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Eastern New Mexico University, Department of Mathematical Sciences
Jesse D. Goldberg (jesse@mocha.ucsd.edu) wrote:
: Has anyone been able to get DOOM to work in multi-player mode
: on the NeXT. We have two NeXT machines on the internet and we've
: tried to start DOOM with the -net 2 option but when the second person
: tries to initialize we get the message
: BindToPort: bind: Address already in use
: If anyone has been successful in this undertaking, we'd greatly
: appreciate your help (although our advisors won't be so happy).
Each machine should have a different command line to run DOom over the network.
For example, the game host should have the command line look like:
Doom -net 1 <name of machine 2> whilst the other should have a command
line like:
Doom -net 2 <name of machine 1 (the host)>
That should work for you, as that is how we run multi-player doom over our
local network with up to four players.
: -Jesse Goldberg
: jesse@mocha.ucsd.edu
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Systems Administrator
From: daveh@canopus.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
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Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Message-ID: <DAVEH.94Mar28165649@canopus.commodore.com>
Date: 28 Mar 94 21:56:49 GMT
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>
<1994Mar25.175046.28527@ccc.amdahl.com>
Sender: news@cbmnews.commodore.com
Organization: Commodore Business Machines, West Chester, PA
In-Reply-To: haw30@eng.amdahl.com's message of Fri, 25 Mar 1994 17: 50:46 GMT
In article <1994Mar25.175046.28527@ccc.amdahl.com> haw30@eng.amdahl.com (Henry A Worth) writes:
In article <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>, michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
|> Do NOT buy ANY Diamond products! They are not and will never be
|> supported by XFree86 (although a few adventerous souls have gotten
|> them to limp along at times). Diamond will not allow their drivers to
|> be public and doesn't care at all that this may cost them a sale
|> because you run a free "unix". They are quite indifferent to the
|> pleas of free "unix" users.
A small point, none of the chip/board vendors provide driver code,
the issue is whether they will provide hardware documentation, without
non-disclosure agreements, that will allow a 3rd party, like the
XFree86[TM] project, write X drivers that can be released to the
public in source form. A few vendors go the extra mile and provide
some tech support, loaner boards, or bits of example code, but such
cooperation is not a pre-req to XFree86 support.
Some companies will provide register-level information on their chips
without extra cost or NDAs. If you can get this, it matters very
little what the card's manufacturer will or won't supply. We're not
talking about a custom design here -- all of the graphic cards based
on a handful of controller chips. At most, the card vendor gets to
pick a LUT/DAC, clock synthesizer, and DRAM configuration.
We've dealt with some of the vendors, and they vary considerably in
how forthcoming they are with information. Tseng Labs gave us
whatever we wanted for the asking. S3, on the other hand, wants a
full non-disclosure agreement. Presumably, anyone using a chip under
such an agreement would be bound by it. So don't necessarily blame
the board vendor, it may not be their choice what they do and don't
provide to end users or OS vendors.
--
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"Rumors follow everywhere you go" -Gin Blossoms
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unter Ecker email address (ComposeInColor)???
Date: 1 Apr 1994 04:14:31 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
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References: <CnK10n.EEw@csn.org>
In article <CnK10n.EEw@csn.org> rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt) writes:
> Does anyone have an email address for UnterEcker Software, the publisher
> of ComposeInColor? I need to contact someone there, but I hate having to
> send regular snail mail --- especially to Portugal! :-)
Try:
untereck@vipmzw.physik.uni-mainz.de
Dave
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From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1508@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 1 Apr 94 01:57:36 GMT
References: <1994Mar28.185903.3753@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Michael Burgstahler writes
> Illustrator (especially the new 5.0) still hasn't learned to get rid of
> those FUCKING dialogs, but flashes users with oh-so-nice gradients and
> automatic filters, which only brain-dead "designers" will use !
> Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS !
How old are you? Illustrator and Freehand are both very professional
products with sophisticated features, and lots of professional
designers get work done with both of them. You really don't impress
anyone, except perhaps yourself, with this kind of ranting on the net.
Although I do have to concede that I was in Fry's Electronics the
other night and there were two people trying to decide whether to
buy Illustrator or Freehand. One of them said, "but I read on the net
that Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS!" and it really seemed to
sway the buying decision.
--
Glenn Reid glenn@rightbrain.com
Woodside, California
From: kanna@cs.nyu.edu (Kanna Rajan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Webster<->Gopher repost
Date: 31 Mar 1994 17:49:08 GMT
Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nf2ek$psp@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>
I'd posted the following a couple of days ago, when we had some newsfeed
problems, so am not sure whether it went out of our campus. Any help
will be appreciated.
__________________________________________________________________________
I don't know if this is the right place to post; do excuse if not.
Here's a problem that's been plaguing me for a while.
I'm trying to connect a NeXT running NS 3.0 with a local gopher client,
using the webster deamon code from Indiana Univ. which is known to work
with NS 2.0+. Apparently due to some incompatibility with the Objective C
libraries, I was unable to compile the source, so am running the websterd
on the NeXT with the "pre-packaged" binary. The gopher client sends the
query via a perl script (also running on the NeXT) which talks to the
websterd.
When I use the webster client program (also from Indiana) and talk directly to
the webster port, all is well. All is well too, when I telnet in directly
into the webster deamon's port. However if I query the deamon via the gopher,
the deamon hangs. And when that happens, if I kill ONLY the (webster) deamon
I DO get the correct dictionary output (albeit without format control)
on the client side (whether it be a tty from telnet or the gopher client).
Does anyone have a clue as to what's going on ? Any help/pointers would be
greatly appreciated.
-Kanna Rajan
Courant Institute
NY, NY
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From: lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Pages: comments from Bruce Webster (lon
Message-ID: <CnL2Lw.49H@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <CnF4sr.7L7@world.std.com> <1994Mar31.163351.4746@afs.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 13:53:55 GMT
In article <1994Mar31.163351.4746@afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com writes:
>In article <CnF4sr.7L7@world.std.com> lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher
>Lloyd) writes:
>> >Don't blame them, blame NeXT for not creating a large enough market for
>> >them to make money.
>>
>> Who is to say that Pages can't create a market for NEXTSTEP?
>> ISV's creating markets for OS vendors - What a concept! Wowee! Golly!
>
>Well, to be fair, only apps in breakthrough categories have proven able
>to serve as demand creators for operating systems. Apple II = Visicalc;
>IBM PC = Lotus123; Macintosh = DTP; Windows = ??? (MS marketing muscle,
>I guess).
I did not mean create as in new-new, but new for NEXTSTEP. The dearth
of applications, relative to other OS's, for NEXTSTEP means that such a
significant contribution as Pages represents advancement of NEXTSTEP
to wider acceptance. In effect, creating/broadening markets for NEXTSTEP.
The point being that the ISV must take the risk of actually completing,
debugging and delivering the app, before it is of any use. Sitting on
your thumb expecting NeXT to just ~magically~ create markets for apps
you're "working on" is just ...plain ...silly. Take the bull by the horns
and finish it, then see what happens.
>For the most part, shrink-wrap software is targeted for demand
>fulfillment, not demand creation. No amount of technical coolness will
>change that equation, unless the shrink-wrapped product serves a strongly
>expressed customer need that is not fulfillable elsewhere.
Spoken like a true MCCA man, but demand is demand and the most elite
MCCApp isn't going to fix that. For some sites, the lack of a
particular app is going to mean no NEXTSTEP, and they will proceed to
bludgeon themselves porting elsewhere. Now matter how you cut it, NEXTSTEP
loses because it doesn't have the apps. An ISV doing an app may mean a
sale ... a market for NEXTSTEP.
>In NEXTSTEP, MCCA is the demand creator. Here at AFS, we are fortunate to
>have a place in each arena. Our custom trading software and objects are
>demand creators (bring new customers to the platform), and WriteUp/PasteUp
>are demand fulfillers (keep them there by rounding out the toolset).
MCCA represents a market into which NeXT can sell NEXTSTEP without a huge
pile of apps to back them up with. You want custom apps, everything
is there to do it, and by the way, we have some third party apps. They
don't need to spend all their time holding ISV's hands while they cross
the precipice to success.
As the lighthouse ads say "the best mission critical apps are the ones
you didn't have to write", the distinction between MCCApps and third
party apps is blurry, and in the NEXTSTEP market they are converging.
shrug,
--
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:: If I had known it was harmless, I would have killed it myself ::
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tranparent question
Date: 1 Apr 1994 15:46:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
Message-ID: <2nhfkm$7km@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CnHo2q.D51@chemelex.com>
In article <CnHo2q.D51@chemelex.com> fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
writes:
> Say, how does one fill a space with a translucent or transparent
> (but not quite totally clear) color? I've got a few apps (Adobe
> Illustrator, and Diagram! 2, that I'd like to use to with these
> type colors. Is it possible and how is it done.
It probably isn't possible. I also have Illustrator and Diagram2, but I'm
afraid I haven't checked in these apps. However, I have asked if Virtuoso
will do this and have been told by the sales rep that it won't. Most
drawing apps don't add the alpha bit to the color because printers can't
print transparent colors.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Date: 1 Apr 1994 15:50:06 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nhfre$7l2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Mar31.231031.2206@wuphys.wustl.edu>
In article <1994Mar31.231031.2206@wuphys.wustl.edu>
petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes:
> I just start up CDPlayer and it asks me to put a CD in the
> drive. When I put the CD in, I punch a button (with the
> mouse) to start it playing, and off it goes. I do have some
> (nifty black) stereo speakers plugged into the CDRom
> drive through which the sound comes. I have all NeXT
> hardware (besides the speakers) and I am running 3.2.
Does CDPlayer work the same way with a non-NeXT CD ROM drive? How about
an Apple 150 or 300 CD ROM drive?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Date: 1 Apr 1994 17:49:49 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2nhjbd$3pl@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Mar31.231031.2206@wuphys.wustl.edu> <2nhfre$7l2@nntp2.stanford.edu>
takken@raven.Stanford.EDU wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <1994Mar31.231031.2206@wuphys.wustl.edu>
>petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes:
>
>> I just start up CDPlayer and it asks me to put a CD in the
>> drive. When I put the CD in, I punch a button (with the
>> mouse) to start it playing, and off it goes. I do have some
>> (nifty black) stereo speakers plugged into the CDRom
>> drive through which the sound comes. I have all NeXT
>> hardware (besides the speakers) and I am running 3.2.
>
>Does CDPlayer work the same way with a non-NeXT CD ROM drive? How about
>an Apple 150 or 300 CD ROM drive?
>
>-- Todd Takken
>takken@leland.stanford.edu
Well it works with a 300 but I've not seen it autolaunch yet. I
haven't tried all that hard.
But if you start CDPlayer and wait for the panel _then_ insert the
caddy containing the audio disc things should work fine with a CD300.
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From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Subject: Is this the magic NS bullet we have waited for ???
Message-ID: <CnL9D2.1op@califhistsoc.org>
Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 16:19:49 GMT
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
>Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
>Date: 1 Apr 94 01:57:36 GMT
>Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
>
>>Michael Burgstahler writes
>> Illustrator (especially the new 5.0) still hasn't learned to get rid of
>> those FUCKING dialogs, but flashes users with oh-so-nice gradients and
>> automatic filters, which only brain-dead "designers" will use !
>> Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS !
>How old are you? ... this kind of ranting on the net.
>Although I do have to concede that I was in Fry's Electronics the
>other night and there were two people trying to decide whether to
>buy Illustrator or Freehand. One of them said, "but I read on the net
>that Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS!" and it really seemed to
>sway the buying decision.
> Glenn Reid glenn@rightbrain.com
> Woodside, California
OK, Glenn, "...I read on the net that NeXTSTEP rules and Windoze SUCKS!"
Time to hang out at the software store and then get ready for the public
offering !
From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
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Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 1 Apr 1994 23:55:54 GMT
Organization: Weber State University, Ogden, UT
Message-ID: <2nicaa$rnh@u.cc.utah.edu>
References: <2n0s6v$jil@u.cc.utah.edu> <1994Mar31.010859.1419@selway.umt.edu> <michaelv.765095065@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>
In article <michaelv.765095065@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
[ ... Regarding Diamond video boards ... ]
>Not only that, but several of their competitors are able to build
>boards just as fast or faster without any detailed knowledge of
>Diamond products. I don't know what makes them think they're the only
>company who can engineer a high performance video board.
This strikes to the heart of the matter.
All hardware companies in business believe their hardware is either better
or cheaper (or both) than anything by any of the competitors. They will
rationalize higher price based on better.
The reason they think that is because they would have no reason to stay
in business otherwise as anything other than a low cost commodity board
manufacturer.
This extends to software as well; there are actually people who work for
MicroSoft who think DOS is good software.
Terry Lambert
terry@cs.weber.edu
---
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or previous employers.
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Metaresearch, Inc
Message-ID: <CnLAHL.1o3@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <2mu8r1INNm25@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 16:44:08 GMT
In article <2mu8r1INNm25@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
(Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
#
#Is it Metaresearch, Inc still in business? (Makers of
#Digital Ears and Color Digital Eyes). If so, does
#any one know if they have an e-mail address?
info@metaresearch.com or lee@metaresearch.com
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Photoshop for NeXTSTEP ?
Message-ID: <CnLAus.1po@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <next2.764884118@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 16:52:03 GMT
In article <next2.764884118@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
#mohan@tulip (Mohan Pakkurti) writes:
#>I am in need of a program with functionality of the Photoshop.
#>Is Photoshop available for NeXT or any other program which can do the same?
#
#TIFFany2 from bMD is the app you're looking for. Still beta, but close to
#release, and already fascinating.
WetPaint from LightHouse Design will be out in about 1 month also.
They said that there would be educational discounts similar to
those on Diagram, etc.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Message-ID: <CnLAyA.1qF@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <2n8mcs$3g5@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 16:54:10 GMT
In article <2n8mcs$3g5@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert
Nicholson) writes:
** STUFF DELETED **
#This is assuming that you need it to autolauch. CDPlayer is suid and
#so can be run by any user. I'm using with a Apple CD300 with no
#problems. I've never seen it autolaunch though but "I can live with
#that"
It autolaunches on my machine. It sits in the dock and when
I put in a CD it just starts up.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Message-ID: <CnLB7B.1rF@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1994Mar30.015704.1516@earlham.edu>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 16:59:35 GMT
In article <1994Mar30.015704.1516@earlham.edu> writes:
#
#In Article <2n8mcs$3g5@steffi.demon.co.uk>
#robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
#>rabahya@earlham.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.software
#>>In Article <28MAR199408194324@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
#>>citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes:
#>>>Hi. I only got one response so I thought I'd try again. If you're running
#>>>CDPlayer on NeXT hardware (CPU and CD-ROM) under NS3.2, how'd you do it?
#>>>Thanks.
#>>>Don McCollam
#>>>mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
#>>
#>>Basically you have two options:
#>>
#>>A Be root and stick in a audio-CD in the CD-ROM drive and that should run
#>>the CDPlayer app, and you're in business!
#>
#>This is assuming that you need it to autolauch. CDPlayer is suid and
#>so can be run by any user. I'm using with a Apple CD300 with no
#>problems. I've never seen it autolaunch though but "I can live with
#>that"
#
#As far as I remember, the CD drive ejected the audio-CD when I put it in the
#drive while not being root, but it liked it when I was root and auto launched
#the CDPlayer.app Any ideas why that happened?
It's not installed correctly.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: GIF and TIFF
Message-ID: <CnLBDB.1sA@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <2ncjqa$j5a@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:03:10 GMT
In article <2ncjqa$j5a@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu> kunkle@harry.cofc.edu (Tom
Kunkle) writes:
#
#Is there an easy way to view
#TIFF or .GIF graphics
#files in NS3.2?
#
#(Such files are frequently
#availableover the net)
TIFF is a no brainer. If you've got Previewer on your machine
it should just work.
GIF is another story and I use ViewGif3 when I need to see a GIF.
Kent
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From: aoki@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Doom
Date: 01 Apr 1994 20:08:35 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <AOKI.94Apr1120835@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>
References: <2neu4g$3hi@wolfy.ina.fr>
In-reply-to: igerard@bipbip.ina.fr's message of 31 Mar 1994 16:35:28 GMT
In article <2neu4g$3hi@wolfy.ina.fr>
igerard@bipbip.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias) writes:
Congratulation to the ID team for their NEXTSTEP version of Doom....
Who know how to buy the version by email or fax number
When I called, I was told that they do NOT accept orders by fax
nor by email. No phone orders except at 1-800-IDGAMES.
You can use snail mail,
ID Software
c/o Starpak
P.O. BOX 1230
Greeley, CO 80632, USA
$40 (doom) + $10 (s/h) = $50 for int'l orders.
prefer check (drawn in US bank) or money order,
*may* accept credit card #'s w/ exp dates, they said.
Since I am in the US right now and bought a copy over the phone,
I can't tell you how long it takes ,etc. i hope they will
start taking orders by fax/email, since at this point, it
raises the threshold for int'l orders compared to domestic
ones substantially.
You will need a *DOS* machine for unpacking the floppies. I have
a black beauty, so I had to unpack on a 386, chop up onto floopies
and then reassemble. if you have dos machines on a fast network
that would be better.
Except for sound, things works without a hitch with DOOM1.2 for NS,
with DOS registered 1.2. (at least so far, I am on moto.)
alternate wad files also work if you have the reg. version.
(at least the one i tried.)
$40 is pretty reasonable, so let's give ID their fair share...
--
___Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp)
Dept.of Physics,Tokyo Inst. of Tech., Meguro-ku, Tokyo, Japan.
.... on the road oGo .......
From: mclement@access.digex.net (hackrat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How fast is SOFT PC?
Date: 4 Apr 1994 14:14:27 -0400
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Message-ID: <mclement.765482838@access3>
References: <Cnn0pw.nE@manki.toppoint.de>
manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes:
>Could anybody give me an impression or example of speed from SoftPC
>under NeXT-Step?
It depends on the version of SoftPC that you are running, and the type of
hardware you are running it on.
The latest version on black hardware is SoftPC 3.0 (this is what comes on
the NS 3.2 CDROM), and it emulates a fast 286. It does not support any of
the protected modes of a 386/486 chip. This is the last release of SoftPC
for black hardware, according to Insignia. If you want higher compatibility,
you'll have to move to white hardware.
The lastest version of SoftPC for white hardware (shipped on the NS 3.2
CDROM) is version 3.1, which runs like a 486SX... It runs at about 80%
of the actual speed of your chip (so a 486-33DX chip would run like a
486-25SX under SoftPC). The product supports all of the protected modes
of a 486 chip.
The most confusing part of all of this is that version 3.0 still costs $589
to unlock, while version 3.1 with all of its added functionality costs
only $249 to unlock.
There is a wonderful article in the Jan.94 issue of Nextworld on SoftPC
that I'd be more than happy to xerox for you. Please send mail to
mclement@access.digex.net if you'd like me to do that.
Hope this helps....
-- Matt
mclement@access.digex.net
From: jtake@rocky.civil.ualberta.ca (Peaceful times have come and gone...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb problem: displaying pictures
Date: 4 Apr 1994 18:25:24 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2npm2k$8jg@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Hopefully someone can help me out with an OmniWeb problem I'm having.
I downloaded OmniWeb.app, OmniImage.app, and put them in my Apps folder along
with ImageViewer.app. I placed OmniImageFilter.service in the appropriate
folder (LocalLibrary/Services).
When I run OmniWeb, it works fine, except that I have not been able
to view any of the WWW picture files. I see the icons for them, but cannot
get them to display automatically or otherwise. Double clicking on them
seems to load them (from the 'bytes transferred' display), and sometimes
loading a document seems to take long enough (and large enough 'bytes
transferred') that it must be loading the picture contents.
So, if anyone has any ideas about what the source of this problem
might be, I'd be grateful for the answer...
John Take
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtuoso problems
Date: 4 Apr 1994 18:44:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2npn73$928@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Apr4.180223.2843@news.media.mit.edu>
In article <1994Apr4.180223.2843@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
>writes:
>In article <2nounk$rn@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu writes:
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I'm greatly impressed with AltSys Virtuoso,..
>>>
>>>Version PR 1.01 MAB running on NSI 3.2.
>>>
>>>2) The EPS files created by "Save as EPS" are unappreciated by most other
>>> PS interpreters. So, neither Ghostscript nor Ghostview will preview
>>> them, and sending them to a PS printer hooked up to a non-Next
>>> workstation produces no output (the old showpage problem?).
>>>
>
>Well, I'm not sure what you mean by the "old showpage" problem, but an
>EPS file, by definition, shouldn't have a showpage on it since it's intended
>to be included on another page.
Hmm,
First of all, I wonder why a bug report for PreRelase Virtuoso is here.
Aren't you supposed to report those back to the vendor? I don't
know if your beta-test agreement said anything, but if I were a vendor,
I wouldn't appreciate bugs with beta versions discussed in a public
forum, unless the beta software is publicly released for anyone to try out.
Secondly, it is OK for an EPS file to have a 'showpage.' Read the Red Book.
It is the responsibility of the importing application to define it to
a null procedure. Virtuoso 1.0 for Motorola handles this correctly, and I
don't think they will break something this basic in the new MAB version.
(though I've seen examples to the contrary...)
--
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USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT and MIME mails OK)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Applications which provide services which to launch themselves
Date: 4 Apr 1994 14:00:48 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404041859.AA08881@alleg.EDU>
Ok, as I see it there is a small problem which could become a big
problem.
It started out nice enough with Services/Define in Webster.... Then
came Services/Search in Quotations... then there was Services/Size in
Dark Forest...... and now it seems everytime I grab an app off the
net it provides a service right within the Services/ menu. Of
course, this makes the first menu inside rather long, especially when
there are other services being provided by TickleServices on top of
whatever the NeXT gives you.
If I own the app/executable, I can change the services, but I would
like to suggest that these types of services go inside something like
Services/Apps. But when they are on the network I end up with these
random services, some of which I simply disable.
What do others think? Am I the only one with this problem?
Tim
---
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Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.1 Motorola
NeXT Mail YES/MIME Mail No/ASCII YES
No Root access, no super-user access
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: project management software, native NS PD or shareware apps?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <2mfqek$lra@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 08:59:57 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Apr4.085957.6606@proximus.north.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote:
[...]
> or I'd forget to run "make ckin" before trying to check in nibs whose CVS
> directories had been removed (as I recently found out, this can be handled
> by CVS by adding an entry in commitinfo, but I degress).
[...]
Another way for (3.x) is to use the CVS.palette.
Anyhow, something like "nscvs" would be the best solution. cvs IS quite
a bit of work to understand, and you have to remember during work a
lot of administrating things, as Art described.
Gerhard.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: kdburg@incoahe.hanse.de (Klaus Dahlenburg)
Subject: Re: Setting time zone to MET? HELP!
Message-ID: <Cno5t4.FD4@incoahe.hanse.de>
Organization: Hanse Networking eV., Hamburg; Germany
References: <1994Mar29.135738.9279@imag.fr>
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 05:55:51 GMT
arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye) writes:
>Hi,
>A long time ago, someone posted a patch to Preferences in order to make MET
>zone available. Does somebody know where I can find it (I don't even remember
>the name)?
why patch? Just set your time zone (in preferences) to POLAND and it
should work automatically.
Klaus
++EOM++
--
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages and TOC (was: WriteUp Review)
Date: 4 Apr 1994 18:21:24 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404042310.AA12608@pages.com>
In article <2mu4viINNl3f@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
(Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
>
> In their current releases, both Pages and WriteUp lack
> fairly obvious features (Pages: Table of Contents, for
> book productions, this is CRUCIAL, WriteUp: footnotes,
> multiple columns).
What Wassim refers to is that release 1.0 of Pages doesn't support
automatic TOC generation (along the lines of FrameMaker's "Generate/Update
Files" command) or a cross-reference capability ("Insert here and update
on request the page number of a given element in a given document.").
However, the standard Pages design models (Victory, April, Writer) do all
support a Table-of-Contents style for Listing elements, complete with
user-defined leadering character, right-justified page numbers and two
levels of entries. The user can create, edit and update TOCs manually;
it's just that Pages doesn't do it automatically.
As someone who has laid out an entire book using FrameMaker and has used
its TOC generation capabilities, I can state from personal experience that
the savings in time for using auto-TOC generation--over simply opening
each chapter file, getting the starting page number for each and typing it
into a Pages-style TOC listing element--is maybe 5 to 10 minutes, if that
much, for the entire book. Since TOC generating/updating is usually done
just before printing, it's not a frequently-used function.
The total time savings to the user, then, is very small--typically less
than half an hour during the weeks or months involved in creating a major
document. Because of that, it's hard to justify the design, development
and testing effort required to implement auto-TOC generation as opposed to
other, more important features. ..bruce..
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Bruce F. Webster | We hackers linger by our leading edge
Chief Technical Officer | Forgetting what is pending in the cache
Pages Software Inc | Till practice hurtles past us,
bwebster@pages.com | and we crash. -- Jeff Duntemann
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From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages: more comments from Bruce Webster
Date: 4 Apr 1994 18:35:59 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404042330.AA12838@pages.com>
In article <2n715s$b17@cnn.sim.ES.COM> npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin
Pratt) writes:
>
> I'll bet the *real* reason that it took so long for Pages to ship is
> that they tried so hard to make the core of the app "portable", without
> necessarily being tied to NeXTSTEP. This suspicion will be confirmed,
> in my mind, if within the next few months Pages is suddenly released
> for Windows or OS/2 or Solaris or something.
We did work hard on making the core of the application portable (i.e., not
descended from NeXT AppKit UI objects), but that's solid software
engineering and business practice. I'd do exactly the same thing if native
development were under, say, Windows. But that's not what took so long.
First, we have been and are continuing to build technology and
architecture to be used through this decade and into the 21st Century. We
have been willing to take the time to do things right, which on two
occasions has meant rearchitecting the app from the ground up.
Second, we're committed to product quality. Proper testing take time,
especially in an application as complex as Pages. Even we didn't fully
anticipate the combinatorial effects of having 20+ design elements
interacting simultaneously; someday, I may do a paper entitled, "The
Ecology of Object-Oriented Documents." ;-)
As for the other comment, I would be completely thrilled, as would the
rest of the Pages employees, our investors, and (quite frankly) all our
major customers if Pages were suddenly released for Windows or OS/2 or
Solaris in the next few months, but that's not going to happen, either.
>
> To make the app "portable", the core of it is probably written in C++,
> and takes no advantage of any provided objects of NeXTSTEP.
First, the entire app is in Objective-C, and we make pervasive use of
run-time binding, dynamic linking, object proxies, lazy loading of
objects, and so on. We consider this to be a competitive advantage over
anyone trying to develop using C++.
Second, our application core doesn't do any UI. Thus, there aren't any
NEXTSTEP objects for us to take advantage of, except for the NS
implementation of Object--which we not only use but have significantly
extended. Our UI objects all descend from AppKit UI objects, so we take
full advantage of NS for them.
Note, by the way, that had we not done the core-edge separation, our core
technology would not be portable to server applications running under
NeXT's PDO environments (HP, DEC, etc.), and we would probably have a much
harder time creating an OpenStep-compatible version of Pages.
>
> [Lots of stuff deleted]
>
> Bottom line is: the more "portable" your app is, the harder it
> is to write, and the longer it takes.
>
Only to a point. As noted, it is solid software engineering practice to
separate core (engine) from edge (UI); quick and dirty programming done to
get a commercial application out more quickly will always causes problems
in the long run for anything but the most simple of apps. Also, good
object-oriented design demands separation and modularity; otherwise, why
bother with OOD?
While there are some costs up front in doing things right, they pay off
later on...as we're discovering right now with our current projects to
enhance and extend Pages.
In short, we're in this for the long run, and we're committed to
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep. ..bruce..
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Bruce F. Webster | C++ is the best example of second-system
CTO, Pages Software Inc | effect since OS/360.
bwebster@pages.com | -- Henry Spencer
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: David Kelman
Subject: Added Services
Message-ID: <1994Apr5.013952.18517@alw.nih.gov>
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 01:39:52 GMT
Hello,
When I've added most third party services, like Filter-1.1, my
system refuses to see them. I have them installed in ~/Library/Services,
yet nothing appears in Preferences. McFilter, on the other hand, located
also in ~/Library/Services, is seen by the system. What could be causing
the system not to see the other services?
David Kelman
d.kelman2@genie.geis.com
From: millert@mroe.cs.colorado.edu (Todd C Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: new berkley db for NeXT?
Date: 5 Apr 1994 01:56:56 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <2nqgh8$b7e@lace.Colorado.EDU>
Does anyone know if the new berkeley db library has been ported to the
NeXT? I'm going to be installing sendmail 8.x soon and would really like
to be able to use the userdb functionality.
thanks,
todd
--
Todd C. Miller Sysadmin--University of Colorado millert@cs.Colorado.EDU
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb problem: displaying pictures
Date: 5 Apr 1994 02:14:16 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2nqhho$g8t@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2npm2k$8jg@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
jtake@rocky.civil.ualberta.ca (Peaceful times have come and gone...) writes:
> Hopefully someone can help me out with an OmniWeb problem I'm having.
>I downloaded OmniWeb.app, OmniImage.app, and put them in my Apps folder along
>with ImageViewer.app. I placed OmniImageFilter.service in the appropriate
>folder (LocalLibrary/Services).
> When I run OmniWeb, it works fine, except that I have not been able
>to view any of the WWW picture files. I see the icons for them, but cannot
>get them to display automatically or otherwise. Double clicking on them
>seems to load them (from the 'bytes transferred' display), and sometimes
>loading a document seems to take long enough (and large enough 'bytes
>transferred') that it must be loading the picture contents.
> So, if anyone has any ideas about what the source of this problem
>might be, I'd be grateful for the answer...
Oddly enough, I was having the same problems last night, showing off OmniWeb
to some friends of mine. Here's what worked for me:
1) Put ImageViewer in your dock.
2) Then launch OmniWeb.
've not tried this with OmniImage, and it's just possible my intermittant
Alzheimer's has led me to forget a step, but that ought to do it.
Cheers,
Steve
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others
"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tjspiel@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Tom Spielman)
Subject: Re: How fast is SOFT PC?
Message-ID: <tjspiel-040494210444@dialup-1-7.gw.umn.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <Cnn0pw.nE@manki.toppoint.de>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 02:04:43 GMT
In article <Cnn0pw.nE@manki.toppoint.de>, manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred
Roehr) wrote:
> Could anybody give me an impression or example of speed from SoftPC
> under NeXT-Step?
>
> Manfred
I use SoftPC almost daily on a 66 MHZ 486/DX2.
Under certain situations, I've seen it out perform a 25 MHZ 486SX machine.
Other times it makes an old IBM AT look fast.
My experience has been that it will run a locally installed Windows app
pretty well. It's a different story when trying to run something off a
Novell Server. Software takes much longer to load, and there is a
noticeable slow down whenever it needs to go to the server for something.
It also seems to have trouble with DOS stuff for some reason. It runs
slow, and will occasionally miss keystrokes.
Another thing to remember is that it will not run in 386 enhanced mode.
This means, among other things, that it can't run multiple DOS windows.
I don't mind using it for Word or Excel which I have installed locally on
the machine. I also use it for cc:Mail because that's the mail package the
rest of my group uses, but I have to wait awhile for it to start up. I
avoid running DOS applications if at all possible (I'm not particularly
fond of DOS anyway).
Other bits of usefull information:
Keep any NeXT Panels, Windows, or Menus from overlapping the
SoftPC Window, they will slow things down considerably.
SoftPC will lose any of its network connections if you hide the whole app
for
any length of time. It will be OK if you only hide (miniaturize) the
window.
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT 3.2, but whats nExt ?
Date: 5 Apr 1994 03:29:28 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2nqluo$s57@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2n6dm4$b15@lace.Colorado.EDU>
[Inappropriate crossposting removed]
In article <2n6dm4$b15@lace.Colorado.EDU>
spenton@irie.Colorado.EDU (Steve Penton) writes:
>My question is: What's Next ? I mean is 3.3 gonna happen, or
> is a fablous 4.0 in the works (along with an upgrade special)?
1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Probably.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb problem: displaying pictures
Message-ID: <1994Apr4.190555.15090@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com
Date: 4 Apr 94 19:05:55 MDT
References: <2npm2k$8jg@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Distribution: world
In article <2npm2k$8jg@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> writes:
> I downloaded OmniWeb.app, OmniImage.app, and put them in my Apps folder along
> with ImageViewer.app.
Where can OmniWeb.app and OmniImage.app be found? I don't see them at the
normal archive sites (sonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu).
Thanks.
Howard
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep Ports
Date: 5 Apr 1994 03:50:14 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2nqn5m$t74@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2nnjgd$h6t@access1.digex.net>
NEXTSTEP ports currently exist for:
HP PA-RISC 1.1 (available RSN)
Intel 486/Pentium (available now)
Motorola 68030/68040 (available now)
Motorola 88110 (not announced)
Motorola 98601 "PowerPC" (not announced)
NEXTSTEP ports under development:
SPARC (should be available 4Q94)
Once NeXT releases NEXTSTEP for hppa, HP is promised a period
(at least 30 days) during which NeXT will not release software
for any competing platforms.
-=EPS=-
--
Hold your question about the DEC Alpha for 6-8 weeks.
From: jmillr@dante.ccs.itd.umich.edu (john miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with 'make' please
Date: 5 Apr 1994 03:56:58 GMT
Organization: U of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2nqnia$ii3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I am a NS 3.2 user on black hardware (32/250) with an uninstalled
Developer's CD. I would like to 'make install' a program called play3401
on my machine, but am not having any success. (This is my first attempt
at compiling _anything_.) When I type 'make install' (after cd-ing to the
play3401 directory), I get:
localhost> make install
cc -pipe -Wall -O2 -c play3401.c
Make: Cannot load cc. Stop.
Well, I figured out that means no compiler could be found which made sense
since I hadn't installed it because I didn't want to use up the space.
Then I remembered reading in Garfinkel & Mahoney's preface that one could
(in NS 3.0) make a symbolic link from the NextDeveloper's file on the HD
to the same file on the CD. So I tried that with the 3.2 CD, but I got
the same result as shown above. (BTW, the CD icon shows 'PC' superimposed
on a disk - is that what it's supposed to be for black hardware?) Anyway,
I have three questions related to this:
a) Did I make the symbolic links incorrectly, or did the software change
to disallow what the G & M book suggests?
b) If making a symbolic link won't work, is there some other way to 'make
install' off of the CD without installing NextDeveloper on the HD?
c) What and where is a decent introduction to the mysteries of compiling
for a curious non-programmer?
Thanks for your help with this admittedly elementary problem.
John Miller
Grad Student
Educational Technology / Literacy
University of Michigan
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS/FIP 3.2 can't read Mac disk.
Date: 5 Apr 1994 06:44:12 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <2nr1bs$k5i@news.iastate.edu>
Keywords: Mac, NeXTSTEP, disk
How on the earth can I get NS/FIP 3.2 to read Mac disks?
Please help.
It reads the Mac disks formatted by itself. But, it can't read the Mac
disks formatter by a Mac.
Any clue?
Chris
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and TOC (was: WriteUp Review)
Date: 5 Apr 1994 00:54:00 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2nq9ao$12e@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <9404042310.AA12608@pages.com>
bwebster@pages.com wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <2mu4viINNl3f@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
>(Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
>>
>
>> In their current releases, both Pages and WriteUp lack
>> fairly obvious features (Pages: Table of Contents, for
>> book productions, this is CRUCIAL, WriteUp: footnotes,
>> multiple columns).
>
>As someone who has laid out an entire book using FrameMaker and has used
>its TOC generation capabilities, I can state from personal experience that
>the savings in time for using auto-TOC generation--over simply opening
>each chapter file, getting the starting page number for each and typing it
>into a Pages-style TOC listing element--is maybe 5 to 10 minutes, if that
>much, for the entire book. Since TOC generating/updating is usually done
>just before printing, it's not a frequently-used function.
I don't think time is the issue here. Although I think it takes
longer depending on the size. I think what's important is
consistency. ie. if I'm adding and deleting sections then I want the
TOC to be aware of that. Many times whilst I was writing my thesis
the TOC changed and I had to have one long before final copy.
>
>
>The total time savings to the user, then, is very small--typically less
>than half an hour during the weeks or months involved in creating a major
>document. Because of that, it's hard to justify the design, development
>and testing effort required to implement auto-TOC generation as opposed to
>other, more important features. ..bruce..
All I can say is this. Computers == Automation... :-)
BTW: What are Lighthouse working on at the moment? I've not heard
anything about them. Mind you I haven't read NeXTWORLD for about 8
months either.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Bruce F. Webster | We hackers linger by our leading edge
>Chief Technical Officer | Forgetting what is pending in the cache
>Pages Software Inc | Till practice hurtles past us,
>bwebster@pages.com | and we crash. -- Jeff Duntemann
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: INVESTMENT SOFTWARE?
Message-ID: <CnrGnx.LpG@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <2no0vu$bea@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 00:43:09 GMT
In article <2no0vu$bea@news.iastate.edu> svicious@iastate.edu writes:
> Does anyone know if there is an investment software package avaliable for
> individual investors running NEXTSTEP? How does it compare to windows/dos
> investment software like Metastock or Supercharts?
> Thanks
> Sidney Johnson
My wife and I use NewsMan, which gives you connection to Dow Jones databases,
has scripting and can interface with Mesa for automatic spreadsheet updates.
The latest release has been stable and worked well. There's a demo in the
cs.orst.edu archives. We don't go near windows (ackkk, phui ) so I can't give
you a comparison.
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
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From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: Pages and TOC (was: WriteUp Review)
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <Cns22t.5xF@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 08:25:41 GMT
References: <9404042310.AA12608@pages.com> <2nq9ao$12e@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
In article <2nq9ao$12e@steffi.demon.co.uk>,
Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>BTW: What are Lighthouse working on at the moment? I've not heard
>anything about them. Mind you I haven't read NeXTWORLD for about 8
>months either.
>
Last news I heard about them was that they had acquired
WetPaint from Pinnacle -- further rounding out their suite of
applications. I think there was a newer release of TaskMaster in the
last 8 or 9 months, too.
Do they have plans to enter the text processing fray?
Rob
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From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep Ports
Date: 5 Apr 1994 08:44:16 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2nr8d0$m9s@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <2nnjgd$h6t@access1.digex.net> <2nqn5m$t74@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Eric P. Scott (eps@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote:
: NEXTSTEP ports currently exist for:
: HP PA-RISC 1.1 (available RSN)
: Intel 486/Pentium (available now)
: Motorola 68030/68040 (available now)
: >Motorola 88110 (not announced)
: >Motorola 98601 "PowerPC" (not announced)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Really? can you tell me your info. source?
Are they under going development? or already exist?
Finally, have you seen these? :)
<Soonam>
: -=EPS=-
: --
: Hold your question about the DEC Alpha for 6-8 weeks.
From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Hangul NeXTStep
Date: 5 Apr 1994 08:52:47 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2nr8sv$m9s@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hangul is Korean character set and it is ported by Shinmyung Co in
Korea. The official announce will be April 19 in SEOUL, KOREA.
First beta version was only ported to Japanese version of NeXTStep. But
now it is ported to English version of NeXTStep. You can choose main
language and hangul when you install the system. Detail will be posted
as soon as I get the official announcement from Shinmyung.
<Soonam>
From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AFS? address?
Date: 5 Apr 1994 08:54:32 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2nr908$m9s@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
What is the address and phone number of AFS ? (Writeup)
<Soonam>
From: dl@apysoft.oleane.com (Denis Laffont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb problem: displaying pictures
Date: 5 Apr 1994 09:25:12 GMT
Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nrapo$o4f@relay2.oleane.net>
References: <1994Apr4.190555.15090@cc.usu.edu>
In article <1994Apr4.190555.15090@cc.usu.edu> writes:
> In article <2npm2k$8jg@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> writes:
> > I downloaded OmniWeb.app, OmniImage.app, and put them in my Apps
folder along
> > with ImageViewer.app.
>
> Where can OmniWeb.app and OmniImage.app be found? I don't see them at
the
> normal archive sites (sonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu).
>
ftp.omnigroup.com should be ok...
Hope this helps,
Denis
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb problem: displaying pictures
Message-ID: <1994Apr5.131554.2355@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario.
References: <2npm2k$8jg@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:15:54 GMT
In article <2npm2k$8jg@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> jtake@rocky.civil.ualberta.ca
(Peaceful times have come and gone...) writes:
> Hopefully someone can help me out with an OmniWeb problem I'm having.
>I downloaded OmniWeb.app, OmniImage.app, and put them in my Apps folder along
>with ImageViewer.app. I placed OmniImageFilter.service in the appropriate
>folder (LocalLibrary/Services).
Don't mean to be facetious but did you logout then login after installing
OmniImageFilter?
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From: dl@apysoft.oleane.com (Denis Lafont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Previewing MS windows Postscript
Date: 5 Apr 1994 14:01:12 GMT
Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks
Message-ID: <2nrqv8$re@relay2.oleane.net>
Hello,
I have some problem to view a postscript document that has beed generated
from a PeeCee with Windows.
Even the simple mode of Preview does not tre trick.
Any suggestion?
Thanks,
Denis
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From: rwillard@aol.com (Rwillard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Oracle 6.0 for Black for Sale
Date: 5 Apr 1994 10:47:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <2nrtl5$ekc@search01.news.aol.com>
References: <2kavrt$2gk@inxs.concert.net>
In article <2kavrt$2gk@inxs.concert.net>, info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift,
Inc.) writes:
I'm interested. Do you still have it?
Dr Rodney E. Willard
Dept of Path & Lab Medicine
Loma Linda, CA 92354
rwillard@aol.com
909-824-4400
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From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Message-ID: <CnM7xv.4zE@fragile.termfrost.org>
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
References: <1994Mar31.231031.2206@wuphys.wustl.edu> <2nhfre$7l2@nntp2.stanford.edu> <2nhjbd$3pl@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 04:46:42 GMT
Comments (and a question) on this whole CDPlayer thing....
It shouldn't matter what brand of CD-ROM drive you use-- NeXT or otherwise.
(I'm using a Toshiba 3401... fantastic drive, btw)
This is what I had to do to get everything flying -- as I remember it, anyway.
My memory could well be flat out wrong on some of this.
1) Make sure /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.util and
/NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer are both setuid root. (mode 4755)
2) If that dosen't help, try making the CD-ROM drive the SECOND LOWEST SCSI ID,
because somewhere is, or at least used to be, a hardcoded dependency on having
the drive as "/dev/rsd1h". The file /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device
and "dwrite CDPlayer CDDrive /dev/rsd1h" are supposed to have some affect on
getting around that, but when I was messing with it long ago, I didn't have
much luck... (There's some kinda correspondence between cdaudio.device and
that dwrite, I think, too.. updating one affects the other, but I dunno the
right order)
(My question: has this restriction been fixed? It sure would be nice to put
my CD-ROM drive as the LAST ID in my chain, so when I take the CD-ROM to a
different host, I don't have to keep changing my damn fstab file. ;-) Details,
please....)
3) Upgrade to at least NS 3.1. I vaguely remember I couldn't get autolaunching
working under 3.0, but I could be wrong...
Comments and corrections welcome... Hope some of this helps some of you. :-)
Mike
--
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Software Consortium
Message-ID: <CnsK0w.303@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: Propose a Software Consortium to Select a Mag for NeXT
Keywords: Magazine
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:53:20 GMT
PROPOSAL FOR DISCUSSION
Qualification: This is my first "advocation". Please don't beat me up.
Proposal: All of the software distributors/manufactures could form
a consortium/cartel an "power" select a magazine to carry
their advertizing based on some agreements to with the
magazine to pick up some of the writers and articles
from NeXTWORLD.
Question: Why couldn't NeXT have though of this ahead of time? They
certainly have all the developer connections to administrate
such a process. All that is needed is a unifying element
to oversee the transition and NeXT is the best candidate
for this proposal. Now, certainly this all could have been
facilitated by some sort of mail back card inserted in the
NeXTWORLD magazine and some sort of e-mail/network poll
which could have been facilitated electronically to get
user input also.
Stevie J., I am available as of 10/1/94 as a Marketing Exec. Fire whoever
didn't think of this. This is not hindsight, this is insight and common
sense. All of the resources for this transition are right at your
finger tips. You have missed the proper timing to maximize the return on
this approach but you haven't missed the boat. Get off of your duff!
Advocators, please don't hit me too hard.
David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ** DFG (Digital Function Generator) **
Message-ID: <1994Apr5.112427.22672@dal1>
Date: 5 Apr 94 11:24:26 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
We are looking for people with NeXTSTEP on Intel with D/A card.
***************************************************************
Digital Function Generator (DFG) software is a powerful tool for
generation of audio test signals which could be used in acoustics,
physics, electronics, engineering, music etc. This software is
availiable for last 2 years for NeXT computers. At present we are
testing DFG on Intel platforms.
Would you be interested to check our software DFG on your machine ?
Test will take no longer than 15->30 min and you will get useful
DFG_demo.app software. Your help will be highly appreciated.........
We can send DFG_demo.app software via NeXTmail to you. File is only
70 kB long. For those who are on the E-mail but do not know how to
use NeXTmail via E-mail we will send instructions how to do this.
Best regards,
Marek Roland-Mieszkowski
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Everything is Information in one form or another.............mrm
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From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ESPRESSO: A good product
Date: 5 Apr 1994 15:10:35 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nrv1b$apl@cnn.sim.ES.COM>
References: <1994Mar29.232551.15962@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
In article 15962@nugget.rmNUG.ORG, chuston@nugget.rmNUG.ORG (Chris Huston) writes:
> Regarding the reviewers statements:
>
> "But the real problem with ESPRESSO! is that it locks the
> developer into the subset of NEXTSTEP that Professional Software
> thinks is worth while."
> - Absolutely false. I don't feel that ESPRESSO! has limited
> my use of NeXTSTEP in any way.
One tiny case in point:
ESPRESSO! expects to get it's "hooks" via delegate methods of various
Appkit classes. This interferes with how I want to use these delegate
hooks myself.
I could say more, but the one item above is sufficient to illustrate
my point:
I side with NeXTWORLD's comments.
Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dsanders@Trimark.com (Doug Sanders)
Subject: Geo-Mapping
Message-ID: <1994Apr5.162449.16111@trimark.com>
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:24:49 GMT
We are trying to assign a geographic location ie. latitude/longitude to a
Canadian postal code. This information is to be used to calculate the
distance between two postal codes. If any body has any information on this
it would be greatly appreciated.
Doug Sanders
-- NeXT Mail Welcome
From: stoleson@stutter.rchland.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Previewing MS windows Postscript
Date: 5 Apr 1994 16:54:02 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester, MN
Message-ID: <2ns53a$13gg@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
References: <2nrqv8$re@relay2.oleane.net>
In <2nrqv8$re@relay2.oleane.net>, dl@apysoft.oleane.com (Denis Lafont) writes:
>
>Hello,
>
>
>I have some problem to view a postscript document that has beed generated
>from a PeeCee with Windows.
>
>Even the simple mode of Preview does not tre trick.
>
>Any suggestion?
>
>
Postscript printing in Windows seems to put a Control-D at the beginning of the file. This is
probably what is wrong. Delete that first character and everything should work fine.
When previewing or printing the first line in the file is check for:
%!PS-Adobe. . .
^------------------------- If there is a space or Control-D here, it will blow up.
Hope this helps.
=dave
From: ning@benard (Ning Li)
Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: CR in NeXTStep Editor
Date: 5 Apr 1994 17:21:42 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2ns6n7$pm1@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: Wrap
I have a question about NeXTStep text editor: one can
type text without CR since the editor automatically
wraps around the text for you. However, if the same
text is opened up in DOS or Mac environment, this causes
a big problem: the lines don't wrap around any more
since there is no CR/LF except between paragraphs.
There isn't a preference one can set for while editing
or saving. So how should one deals with this? How can
I save the text file with CRs? I'd appreciate replys
to my account. Thanks!
-Ning
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GNU Finger 1.37
Date: 5 Apr 1994 17:42:45 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2ns7ul$lqq@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
I am trying to get GNU Finger 1.37 to work under NeXTSTEP 3.2. I have been
able to get it to compile cleanly without much trouble, but the finger
client fails with a memory allocation error and the host and user data
files in /usr/local/etc/fingerdir are not being updated correctly by the
daemon. If anybody has this running on their machines let me know how you
did it. This software works great on our HP 712's ;-)
Thanks,
Paul M. Cardon
NeXTSTEP and HP System Manager
Math Department - Brigham Young University
From: jtake@rocky.civil.ualberta.ca (Peaceful times have come and gone...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Clarifying problem with Omniweb
Date: 5 Apr 1994 17:30:56 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2ns78g$h72@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I believe my problems with Omniweb are a bit more specific than my
original post indicated.
In-line images (at least, I think they are in-line), such as the Omni logo at
the top of:
http://www.omnigroup.com/Documentation/NEXTSTEP/Guide.html
and the stacked cubes graphic at the top of:
http://www.omnigroup.com/Documentation/NEXTSTEP/Guide.html
first appear as the standard "graphics" symbol, and then pop up as images,
with no problems.
My problem is getting other (off-line, I believe) images to view
properly. Clicking on them does not work, etc. Does this clarify the
problem?
John
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ESPRESSO: A good product
Date: 5 Apr 1994 18:06:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ns9ah$dkh@bones.et.byu.edu>
References: <2nrv1b$apl@cnn.sim.ES.COM>
Nevin Pratt writes
) Chris Huston writes
) > Regarding the reviewers statements:
) >
) > "But the real problem with ESPRESSO! is that it locks the
) > developer into the subset of NEXTSTEP that Professional Software
) > thinks is worth while."
) > - Absolutely false. I don't feel that ESPRESSO! has limited
) > my use of NeXTSTEP in any way.
)
) One tiny case in point:
)
) ESPRESSO! expects to get it's "hooks" via delegate methods of various
) Appkit classes. This interferes with how I want to use these delegate
) hooks myself.
True. Many times you run across this: you want to dend delegate messages
to two different objects. But you can't do this easily. You need, um,
some sort of a "Tee" object that lets the messages go to both (or more)
places. Well, there is an individual working on a MiscTee object for
the MiscKit, as it turns out. This is one possible solution to the
problem, and in many situations will get you what you want.
Another solution, which would require the writer of the delegate to use
some care, is to make sure that the delegate object itself has a delegate.
Then, it passes on things that it doesn't use to some further delegate,
forming a chain of messages. (One object I am using in my own work
does just this: it acts as a Window delegate, but passes on all the
delegate messages to its own delegate as if they were sent by the
Window itself. On some of them, it hooks in and does it's special
bit of magic. Oh, and the idea was Scott Anguish's, not mine. :-) )
These two approaches, however, don't answer for the fact that as a
commercial product ESPRESSO ought to do this out of the box...right?
Just thought I'd mention it, though. In an environment as flexible
as NEXTSTEP, you can pretty much do anything you want to do if you're
clever enough. That's why it is so much fun.
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Mac emulator for NeXT?
Message-ID: <CnrqyD.1uC@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <2no67h$ls5@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 04:25:25 GMT
In article <2no67h$ls5@galaxy.ucr.edu> curt@doumi.ucr.edu (Curt Burgess)
writes:
#
#Does anyone know of an App that allows Mac software to run
#on the NeXT? Something like a SoftPC for doing Mac stuff...
#I haven't noticed any ads for something like this in NeXTWORLD
#or on the net.
#Thanks, Curt Burgess
The company is ARDI and the software is Executor.
You can reach them at 505-766-9115 or email at
questions@ardi.com.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: NextStep Ports
Message-ID: <Cnrr27.1v3@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <2nnjgd$h6t@access1.digex.net>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 04:27:42 GMT
In article <2nnjgd$h6t@access1.digex.net> gva@access1.digex.net (Global Virtual
Access) writes:
#With all the talk, I've been a little confused as to which platforms NS
#is actually being ported to. I've heard some rumors, etc... Maybe
#someone would be willing to summarize and set the record straight...
#
#NS is availble or will be avilable for:
#Black Hardware (obviously)
#Intel, 486 or higher
#Alpha (I've heard rumors...)
#PowerPC (More rumors...)
#
#And howabout the Next/Sun alliance? Does that mean I'll be able to buy a
#Sparc 1 running NS?
No because they don't make the SPARC 1 anymore. 8-)
You should be able to get one of their machines with NS or OpenStep
when it come out.
When I don't know.
Kent
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From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and TOC (was: WriteUp Review)
Date: 5 Apr 1994 18:27:10 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nsahu$gbf@bones.et.byu.edu>
References: <2nq9ao$12e@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson writes
) bwebster@pages.com wrote in comp.sys.next.software
) >The total time savings to the user, then, is very small--typically less
) >than half an hour during the weeks or months involved in creating a
major
) >document. Because of that, it's hard to justify the design, development
) >and testing effort required to implement auto-TOC generation as opposed
to
) >other, more important features. ..bruce..
)
) All I can say is this. Computers == Automation... :-)
Yep. Just 'coz it only takes, say, five minutes doesn't make it stop
being a pain in the ***. Especially when I forget to do my manual
update and print out a copy that's all messed up. I bought my computer
to keep track of these "unimportant" details for me--I want to work,
not fill in TOC's even if it only takes 10 seconds to do it.
A headache is a headache no matter how small. I don't want headaches
of any size. Bruce's comment, to me, is at best a justification of
why they put off the feature for the time being. I certainly hope
it will find it's way into Pages eventually.
On the other hand, what about index generation? That's a job I do not
want to do by hand. In fact, I'd love to have a way to automatically
generate indices for on-line help in apps I'm developing...that (hint)
would be a product (hint) I would (hint) actually buy (hint hint).
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Pages and TOC (was: WriteUp Review)
Message-ID: <1994Apr5.192645.16075@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <Cns22t.5xF@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 19:26:45 GMT
In article <Cns22t.5xF@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
(Robert Davis) writes:
> In article <2nq9ao$12e@steffi.demon.co.uk>,
> Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >BTW: What are Lighthouse working on at the moment? I've not heard
> >anything about them. Mind you I haven't read NeXTWORLD for about 8
> >months either.
> >
>
> Last news I heard about them was that they had acquired
> WetPaint from Pinnacle -- further rounding out their suite of
> applications. I think there was a newer release of TaskMaster in the
> last 8 or 9 months, too.
It was also announced (in NeXTWorld) that they had acquired Appsoft Write
and Solution, and Diagram Pro is just due out. I also think that
Foundation Classes (at a more reasonable price than reported on in
NeXTWorld, $695 comes to mind) is a recent release, or just to be
released. In fact, they seem to be (quietly) doing a lot. The same could
be said for Metrosoft.
Paul
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From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What software does the Ariel QuintProcessor support?
Date: 5 Apr 1994 21:13:40 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Keywords: NeXT, Ariel, sound processing, manly noises
I'm considering investing in one of the last QuintProcessor boards Ariel
is going to build. This is a big investment; I hope to build a multimedia
monster-in-a-box and this would complete the audio end of things, but so
far the only software i know of that runs on this sucker is the CCMRA
MusicKit. I'm looking for more sound-effects building/processing than
music making per se, tho that'd be nice too. Just not $x,xxx nice. Any
comments?
Steve Weintz
EthnoGraphics
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu
From: mevins@next.com (mikel evins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and TOC (was: WriteUp Review)
Date: 5 Apr 1994 21:32:01 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
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References: <2nsahu$gbf@bones.et.byu.edu>
In article <2nsahu$gbf@bones.et.byu.edu> don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
writes:
>
> On the other hand, what about index generation? That's a job I do not
> want to do by hand. In fact, I'd love to have a way to automatically
> generate indices for on-line help in apps I'm developing...that (hint)
> would be a product (hint) I would (hint) actually buy (hint hint).
I've worked as a technical writer several times and my experience of that
world suggests that you really need to hire a professional indexer for the
job. An automatically generated index (even with the author's hints)
usually sucks.
That said, I realize that there is still a place for such tools (for
ewxample, not everybody who needs an index is in a position to hire an
indexer), and one would hope that Pages will eventually have one.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages and TOC (was: WriteUp Review)
Date: 5 Apr 1994 23:20:28 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2nso7c$dv8@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2nq9ao$12e@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2nsahu$gbf@bones.et.byu.edu>
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>On the other hand, what about index generation? That's a job I do not
>want to do by hand. In fact, I'd love to have a way to automatically
>generate indices for on-line help in apps I'm developing...that (hint)
>would be a product (hint) I would (hint) actually buy (hint hint).
One could argue that the technology could be generalised
sufficiently to support both auto TOC and INDEX.
>
>--
>Later,
>
>-Don Yacktman
>Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
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Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 5 Apr 1994 22:58:37 GMT
Organization: Weber State University, Ogden, UT
Message-ID: <2nsqet$4uc@u.cc.utah.edu>
References: <michaelv.765095065@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> <2nicaa$rnh@u.cc.utah.edu> <2nk5tq$4ff@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
In article <2nk5tq$4ff@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> jaenicke@emserver.ee.TU-Berlin.DE (Lutz Jaenicke) writes:
]In article <2nicaa$rnh@u.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) writes:
]>All hardware companies in business believe their hardware is either better
] ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
]>or cheaper (or both) than anything by any of the competitors. They will
]>rationalize higher price based on better.
]
]It is absolutely not necessary to "believe" in the products you sell, the
]only important thing is to make the _customers_ believe that.
]Big :-)
If you are the EE who did the design, then an aspersion on the design is
an aspersion on you. Or to put it another way, there's no such thing as
an ugly baby, especially *your* baby. As a matter of fact, there is no
better baby than *your* baby.
An EE seldom does the selling of the products he or she designs; otherwise
computers assembly source would look like C and system calls would be
implemented in loadable microcode. 8-). What you say is true of the
salesmen, but irrelevant when discussing the engineers.
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Date: 1 Apr 1994 19:24:34 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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References: <2nhfre$7l2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes:
> Does CDPlayer work the same way with a non-NeXT CD ROM drive? How
> about an Apple 150 or 300 CD ROM drive?
>
> -- Todd Takken
Works pretty well with the Apple CD300.
Does not work with the Apple 150.
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Subject: HELP! SoftPC on an 030 cube
Message-ID: <1994Apr1.135039.1@vax2.winona.msus.edu>
From: surion@vax2.winona.msus.edu
Date: 1 Apr 94 13:50:39 CDT
Organization: Winona State University
HELP! please
I blew it. I was playing with SoftPC on my outdated and slow (boy is it slow)
030 cube, and somehow changed the display from ega to cga. It doesn't have the
appropriate file, and crashes seconds after launch. It works just fine from
any other account, and I found a file ".SoftPC" in /SoftPC.app. This
seems to contain the relevant info, but is already set for EGA. THere must be,
I readoned, a .SOftPC somewhere in my directory or something that has my
(incorect) preferances in it. Anybody know where it is?
Also on the subject of SoftPC, how do I get it to recognize my floppy drive?
Its at id 3 on the SCSI chain. (a PLI 2.88 floppy) SoftPC allows me to
specify where to look, but I can't seem to figure out what goes in the blank.
Any help on either problem would be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance,
-seth
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From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MAB NewsGrazer disappear in cs.orst.edu
Date: 2 Apr 1994 08:51:36 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Message-ID: <2njbmo$2ol@news.iastate.edu>
Anyone has any idea where to find the MAB NewsGrazer?
It doesn't exist in cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/news or
/pub/next/submissions.
Where is it?
Thanks for any info.
Chris
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From: David.Kelman@launchpad.unc.edu (David Kelman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ImageViewer whitewash
Date: 1 Apr 1994 22:09:59 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
Message-ID: <2ni63n$5qu@samba.oit.unc.edu>
References: <2mema2$erm@yucca.omnigroup.com> <Cn1rur.8Kz@moksha.uucp>
In article <Cn1rur.8Kz@moksha.uucp>,
Michael Branton <mgb@thoth.stetson.edu> wrote:
>This one gets my vote. Gamma correction definitley makes a difference for me
>and fixes the "washed-out" look. McFilter does the job quietly and
>effectively.
>
I have installed McFilter, and changed the services file in
ImageViewer as directed, but ImageViewer (0.9i) still ingores the
existence of McFilter. Other graphics programs, such as WetPaint, rea;ize
it is there, but ImageViewer doesn't. I even have Filter1.1 loaded, and
it is supposed to help ImageViewer recognize filters like McFilter, and
ImageViewer still doesn't invoke McFilter. What am I doing wrong?
David Kelman
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From: ace@acelab.ruhr.de (Andreas Fatum)
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Message-ID: <1994Apr2.093657.1482@acelab.ruhr.de>
Organization: acelab - an internet bbs - +49-2368-56585
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 09:36:57 GMT
References: <1994Mar31.231031.2206@wuphys.wustl.edu> <2nhfre$7l2@nntp2.stanford.edu> <2nhjbd$3pl@steffi.demon.co.uk> <CnM7xv.4zE@fragile.termfrost.org>
Mike Andrews (kramer@fragile.termfrost.org) wrote:
: It shouldn't matter what brand of CD-ROM drive you use-- NeXT or otherwise.
: (I'm using a Toshiba 3401... fantastic drive, btw)
A friend of mine has problems with the 3401 and NS/Intel 3.2 playing
audio cd-roms: If he inserts an audio-cd, the systems ejects it after
a few seconds. If an audio-cd is inserted at bootup, the system
pops out: "disk unformatted" after registering the drive.
If he opens the CDPlayer.app the application tells him "Couldn't open
cdrom".
: 1) Make sure /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.util and
: /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer are both setuid root. (mode 4755)
That's the case.
: 2) If that dosen't help, try making the CD-ROM drive the SECOND LOWEST SCSI ID,
: because somewhere is, or at least used to be, a hardcoded dependency on having
There are 4 SCSI-Devices on the bus which shall remain in that order:
ID0: HD
ID1: HD
ID5: CD-ROM
ID6: Streamer
: the drive as "/dev/rsd1h". The file /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device
: and "dwrite CDPlayer CDDrive /dev/rsd1h" are supposed to have some affect on
cdaudio.device didn't exist on his machine; we created the file containing
"/dev/rsd2h" (The CD-ROM was registered as sd2, Target 5) - still resulting
in the audio-cd being ejected...
Any ideas?
Andreas
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From: guy@dearg.cuillin.org.uk (Guy Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 2 Apr 1994 12:49:23 GMT
Organization: Cuillin
Distribution: world
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References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> <DAVEH.94Mar28165649@canopus.commodore.com>
In article <DAVEH.94Mar28165649@canopus.commodore.com>, daveh@canopus.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
[ stuff deleted]
|> We've dealt with some of the vendors, and they vary considerably in
|> how forthcoming they are with information. Tseng Labs gave us
|> whatever we wanted for the asking. S3, on the other hand, wants a
|> full non-disclosure agreement. Presumably, anyone using a chip under
|> such an agreement would be bound by it. So don't necessarily blame
|> the board vendor, it may not be their choice what they do and don't
|> provide to end users or OS vendors.
The problem with the Diamond cards is Diamonds use of their own clock
generation chip to generate the timing signals. They won't release any
details on the chip. So while one can find out about the video chip
used one still won't know how to set-up the clock generation chip...
|>
|>
|> --
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|> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com | Engineering = Art + Science | "Life was never meant
|> {BIX,Portal}: hazy | "The Crew That Never Rests" | to be painless"
|>
|> "Rumors follow everywhere you go" -Gin Blossoms
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From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Free VT??? emulation somewhere?
Message-ID: <E4FNBZ0E@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 13:25:05 GMT
Hello,
I'd like to know, whether there is some VT??? emulation
with sources running on NeXTSTEP.
Especially I'd like to have an emulation, that doesn't
blow the screen updates of EVE on VAX/VMS. Terminal.app
does not conform to the VT100 specs and I hate having
to use MouseX just to get a working VT100 emulation
(using xterm, of course).
If you don't believe me, try to connect to some non unix system,
that uses the full capabilities of the VT100 specs. The screen
will be messed up within minutes.
Ciao, Stephan
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 2 Apr 1994 12:37:33 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2njldt$44g@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1994Mar28.185903.3753@westwerk.cube.de> <1508@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid) writes:
>Michael Burgstahler writes
>> Illustrator (especially the new 5.0) still hasn't learned to get rid of
>> those FUCKING dialogs, but flashes users with oh-so-nice gradients and
>> automatic filters, which only brain-dead "designers" will use !
>> Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS !
>How old are you? Illustrator and Freehand are both very professional
>products with sophisticated features, and lots of professional
>designers get work done with both of them. You really don't impress
>anyone, except perhaps yourself, with this kind of ranting on the net.
Glenn, you should know that "lots of professional ... (insert your
favourite job profile) use it" is a bad argument for the capabilities
of software. Lots of professional ... even use MS Windows, and get
work done with it. But is DOS/Windows a good OS due to this?
Many very professional apps got into a state of "overfeaturism". In
order to provide bells and whistles for the next update release (the
marketing department has to announce new features, what else), some
apps were blown up with zillions of features, dialogs, panels, wizards,
inspectors,... My best example for it is MS Word for Windows 6.0, but
enough other apps fit into the same category. You finally know what
you have bought if all your free disk space has disappeared and it's
time to breakfast each time you launch your application.
Virtuoso/FreeHand is my very best example _against_ this tendency
of overfeaturism. It has any function/feature you need for good and
professional DTP, but the user interface to access these features is
very simple and intuitive. Personally, I never managed to work so
intuitively with Illustrator.
>Although I do have to concede that I was in Fry's Electronics the
>other night and there were two people trying to decide whether to
>buy Illustrator or Freehand. One of them said, "but I read on the net
>that Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS!" and it really seemed to
>sway the buying decision.
IMHO, they did not make a bad decision if they decided for FH.
I wouldn't use M. Burgstahler's words, but in result he's right.
Regards,
Markus.
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From: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What's a good checkbook accounting program?
Date: 3 Apr 1994 01:53:49 GMT
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Message-ID: <2nl7jd$kh1@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
Subject sez it all.
Thanks,
--Glenn
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any Calendar-type Apps for 486 NS?
Date: 3 Apr 1994 02:45:26 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
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References: <2nksnd$m77@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2nksnd$m77@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> puerta@camis.stanford.edu (Angel
Puerta) writes:
>
>
> Are there any Calendar-type Apps available for NS 3.2 (486)?
>
> I would appreciate any pointers
>
Pencil Me In from Sarrus (info@sarrus.com) is great!
Dave
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's a good checkbook accounting program?
Date: 3 Apr 1994 02:46:12 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
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In article <2nl7jd$kh1@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu
(Glenn Brown) writes:
> Subject sez it all.
> Thanks,
> --Glenn
Try CheckSum (info@sirius.com)
Dave
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From: gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu (Reality)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Clarifying problem with Omniweb
Date: 6 Apr 1994 19:07:24 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <2nv19c$sgp@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <2ns78g$h72@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <2ns78g$h72@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
jtake@rocky.civil.ualberta.ca (Peaceful times have come and gone...)
writes:
> I believe my problems with Omniweb are a bit more specific than my
> original post indicated.
>
Just to add my two cents, I have the exact same problem (as far as I
can tell) as John. The Omni logo shifts from an image icon to the nice
image of the logo, but the rest of the documents are filled with
text and ICONS, not text and IMAGES. Annoying.
Having noticed the discussion here on c.s.n.s., I have tried all
combinations of placing OmniWeb, ImageViewer, and OmniImage in the
dock. And this system has been rebooted numerous times.
Other info: I'm running a black slab with NS3.0.
Brian
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Subject: Switching between applications?
Message-ID: <1994Apr2.205656.1554@earlham.edu>
From: rabahya@earlham.edu
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 20:56:52 -500
Distribution: world
Organization: Earlham College
Hi --
Does anyone know of a key-combination to switch between application in NS like
shift-TAB in MS-Windows(ughhhhh). ?
Thanks
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MAB NewsGrazer disappear in cs.orst.edu
Date: 2 Apr 1994 23:22:01 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nlg99$r6d@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <2njbmo$2ol@news.iastate.edu>
Chris Wong writes
> Anyone has any idea where to find the MAB NewsGrazer?
>
> It doesn't exist in cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/news or
> /pub/next/submissions.
>
It was in cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info...
I just moved it to cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/news/NewsGrazer75.tar.Z
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From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP! SoftPC on an 030 cube
Date: 3 Apr 1994 06:46:58 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2nlop2$d1v@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <1994Apr1.135039.1@vax2.winona.msus.edu>
In article <1994Apr1.135039.1@vax2.winona.msus.edu> writes:
..
> any other account, and I found a file ".SoftPC" in /SoftPC.app. This
> seems to contain the relevant info, but is already set for EGA. THere must
be,
> I readoned, a .SOftPC somewhere in my directory or something that has my
> (incorect) preferances in it. Anybody know where it is?
It's probably in the NextDefault user database.
Have a look with 'dread -l |grep SoftPC'
> Also on the subject of SoftPC, how do I get it to recognize my floppy drive?
> Its at id 3 on the SCSI chain. (a PLI 2.88 floppy) SoftPC allows me to
> specify where to look, but I can't seem to figure out what goes in the blank.
Sorry, can't help there.
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From: shanega@athena.mit.edu (Shane G. Artis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Printer woes
Date: 6 Apr 1994 19:58:44 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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Message-ID: <2nv49k$4np@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: NeXT Printer, NextPrinter, NetInfo
Having recently purchased a NeXT Printer (new) and tested it on a
very old NeXTSTEP version 2.1 machine successfully, I am now trying
to connect it to a NeXTSTEP version 3.0 color station. It is not working
for what appear to be a variety of reasons:
no drivers in the /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Drivers directory (deleted
long ago due to space considerations and no easy way to get the
originals off of our CD-ROM drive since we don't own one anymore).
Improper NetInfo configuration? We get errors in /private/adm/lpd-errs
saying:
Apr 6 15:34:27 next Server:Local_Printer[136]: Driver class not set in printer entry
Apr 6 15:34:28 next Inform[135]: DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host local host
'lpr' queues jobs momentarily, then these two errors are generated
and the job dequeues. '/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver'
with the proper arguments generates the same errors.
So, I see a couple solutions. Could someone send me a list of each
Name/ Property/Value for NetInfo to use with a standard NeXT 400 DPI
printer? Next, could somebody send me the /usr/lib/NextPrinter
directory (3.0 or non-MAB 3.1/3.2 for black boxes) in an installer
bundle or simple .tar.Z format? Finally, we also removed
PrinterManager.app from NextAdmin. Do we need that and could somebody
send it to us if so? If anyone thinks there might be more problems
feel free to chip in!
I promise to never delete anything ever again with backups in tape, CD-ROM,
floppy, and microfilm format...
Many thanks,
Shane
From: james@aleph.ee.ualberta.ca (James Strohschein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Icon patch?
Date: 6 Apr 1994 19:55:27 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2nv43f$imc@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Keywords: Icon, patch
Does anybody know where can I find a patch for Icon? I have the Release
2.0 Icon, and want to run it under NS 3.2.
Thanks.
--
James Strohschein james@aleph.ee.ualberta.ca (NeXTMail)
Electrical Engineering (403) 492-4935
University of Alberta (403) 492 -1181 (fax)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Switching between applications?
Date: 3 Apr 1994 07:25:10 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nlr0m$pm1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1994Apr2.205656.1554@earlham.edu>
Jack A. Rabah writes:
> Does anyone know of a key-combination to switch between application
> in NS like shift-TAB in MS-Windows(ughhhhh). ?
The closest that I know of is command-up-arrow or command-down-arrow.
This moves windows up to the top, or down to the bottom. It doesn't
actually switch the active application though, you'd still have to
click on the window of interest once it was on top.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: Stealth.app
Date: 3 Apr 1994 20:50:03 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2nna5r$6um@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Hi all,
Do any of you guys out there still have a copy of the Stealth.app (flight
simulator) in the good old NS1.0-2.x time?? If you do or you happen to know
your friends have a copy, please contact me and I need your help.
Thanks in advance,
Andy
--
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// || // @
//==||/\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
// || \\ @ "BUT MY NeXTMAIL IS NOT WORKING YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
From: gva@access1.digex.net (Global Virtual Access)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextStep Ports
Date: 3 Apr 1994 19:29:17 -0400
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Message-ID: <2nnjgd$h6t@access1.digex.net>
With all the talk, I've been a little confused as to which platforms NS
is actually being ported to. I've heard some rumors, etc... Maybe
someone would be willing to summarize and set the record straight...
NS is availble or will be avilable for:
Black Hardware (obviously)
Intel, 486 or higher
Alpha (I've heard rumors...)
PowerPC (More rumors...)
And howabout the Next/Sun alliance? Does that mean I'll be able to buy a
Sparc 1 running NS?
What's the deal? Help!
--
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"Instant Access to the World's Resources"
gva@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fineman@grizzly.cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman)
Subject: "expect" and "tcl" won't compile on NS/I
Message-ID: <1994Apr3.235220.1195@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 94 23:52:20 GMT
Hey all-
I've been trying to compile "expect" and "tcl" so i can run TipTop
scripts, but:
I can't get tcl compiled, which expect needs to compile! After
running the ./configure script, compilation says:
-----
cc -c -O -I. -I. -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DNO_DIRENT_H=1 -DNO_STDLIB_H=1 -Dmode_t=int -Dpid_t=int -Dsize_t=unsigned -Duid_t=int -Dgid_t=int -DTCL_LIBRARY=\"/usr/local/lib/tcl\" regexp.c
In file included from /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stddef.h:7, from /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/machine/stddef.h:11, from /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/stddef.h:4, from /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/stdio.h:24, from tclInt.h:42, from regexp.c:35:
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:17: warning: useless keyword or type name in empty declaration
In file included from tclInt.h:65, from regexp.c:35:
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/string.h:41: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/string.h:47: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strlen'
-------
it gives the same warning for almost every file compiled, and at the
end, says:
-----
cc -O -I. -I. -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DNO_DIRENT_H=1 -DNO_STDLIB_H=1 -Dmode_t=int -Dpid_t=int -Dsize_t=unsigned -Duid_t=int -Dgid_t=int -DTCL_LIBRARY=\"/usr/local/lib/tcl\" tclAppInit.o libtcl.a -lm -o tclsh
ld: multiple definitions of symbol _strtod
libtcl.a(strtod.o) definition of _strtod in section (__TEXT,__text)
/lib/libsys_s.a(strtod.o) definition of absolute _strtod (value 0x5002dba)
*** Exit 1
Stop.
-----
any ideas? I'm not too good with compiling stuff.
thanx
dan
fineman@cs.washington.edu ascii please!
From: me@vigor.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Calculator App?
Date: 4 Apr 1994 02:55:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nnvj5$r4g@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I'm looking for a public domain scientific calculator App. I surfed
cs.orst.edu but couldn't find one. Is the MathPaper app from the
Mahoney and Garfinkle book available in binary form somewhere? Can
anyone point me in a promising direction? Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: svicious@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: INVESTMENT SOFTWARE?
Date: 4 Apr 1994 03:19:26 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <2no0vu$bea@news.iastate.edu>
Does anyone know if there is an investment software package avaliable for
individual investors running NEXTSTEP? How does it compare to windows/dos
investment software like Metastock or Supercharts?
Thanks
Sidney Johnson
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Switching between applications?
Date: 3 Apr 1994 22:38:10 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404040336.AA16845@alleg.EDU>
Does anyone know of a key-combination to switch between
application in NS like shift-TAB in MS-Windows(ughhhhh). ?
YES! cmd (+). Well, sort of. If you have TickleServices there is a
wonderful feature called Services/Apps/Unhide Apps. I have this
bound to the + key so when I use cmd and + it brings up this
wonderful panel with a list of all the apps I have running. I select
one and BINGO it comes up as the active App.
With that plus all of the other great features of TickleServices, it
is well worth checking out. If you need more reasons to get
TickleServices, send me email. I'd go on but I'm afraid people would
accuse me of trying to make this newsgroup into
alt.fan.scott-hess.advocacy.
If you do want to get TickleServices, here's where to go:
FTP Site:
cs.orst.edu (login anonymous)
Relevant Files:
/pub/next/binaries/tools/TickleServices1.02mab.README
/pub/next/binaries/tools/TickleServices1.02mab.compressed
Tim
--
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NeXT Mail Welcomed
Box 931 Allegheny College Meadville, PA 16335 USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: flash!jon@myxa.com
Subject: Re: WriteNow/Mac 4.0 raises the bar for NS word processors
Message-ID: <Cntp15.Bu@dsinc!flash>
Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry)
Organization: Who Needs It?
References: <jeffo.765591080@uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 05:39:04 GMT
In article <jeffo.765591080@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
writes:
> [page 131] snippet from the "In Brief" column:
> WriteNow 4.0 still compact
> ===
> "WriteNow 4.0 takes up only 350k on disk and can run in 400k of RAM; a
> preference setting loads the program completely into memory, reducing
> disk accesses and prolonging PowerBook battery life. The new version
> adds a full-featured table editor, can crop and resize imported
> graphics, has filters for QuarkXPress and Aldus PageMaker, and has a
> palette to simplify setting up mail merges. WriteNow 4.0 is shipping
> at $119.95. WordStar, 415/382-8000, 800/227-5609"
> ====
<snip>
>
> So current and upcoming NS word processor developers, can we expect to
> see these features in NS word processors? Is anyone besides AFS
> making a general-purpose word processor app?
I'd be willing to bet that at no time will AFS support features that prolong
PowerBook Battery life. :)
On the other hand, please note the version number above: 4.0. Assuming they
don't subscribe to the Microsoft method of version numbering, that means it has
been through 4 versions, in at least 4 years, probably more.
Exactly what general purpose features are described that WriteUp (for example)
is missing? I certainly don't see anything there which is essential for
"general purpose" word processing.
--
Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 4 Apr 1994 00:51:30 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2no6ci$8bn@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving
the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon
as they become available.
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will
be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Opinions on Eloquent
Date: 06 Apr 1994 21:53:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Apr6145356@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
I am thoroughly fed up with Mail.app (yesterday it destroyed my
several hundred user address file for the second time) and would like
a replacement that uses all standard mail files, support MIME, etc. I
had a look at Eloquent (which was advertised here) and it looks quite
good. It costs $150, though, so I wanted to hear if anyone has
experience with it, or other suggestions.
Thanks,
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: curt@doumi.ucr.edu (Curt Burgess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mac emulator for NeXT?
Date: 4 Apr 1994 04:48:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2no67h$ls5@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Does anyone know of an App that allows Mac software to run
on the NeXT? Something like a SoftPC for doing Mac stuff...
I haven't noticed any ads for something like this in NeXTWORLD
or on the net.
Thanks, Curt Burgess
--
Dr. Curt Burgess, Cognitive Psychology Program
Department of Psychology, Univ Calif-Riverside,
Riverside, CA 92521-0426 USA
Internet: curt@cassandra.ucr.edu <<< NeXT mail ok
MaBellNet: (909) 787-2392 FAX: (909) 787-3985
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Different Icons when Running and when not
Date: 4 Apr 1994 01:24:42 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404040623.AA18849@alleg.EDU>
If I have an executable file (no source code) which has a distinctive
icon and I want to have two icons, one for when it is running and one
for when it is not, is there a way to do this (maybe using segedit?)?
Thanks
Tim
---
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Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.1 Motorola
NeXT Mail YES/MIME Mail No/ASCII YES
No Root access, no super-user access
From: mclement@access.digex.net (hackrat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac emulator for NeXT?
Date: 4 Apr 1994 03:03:27 -0400
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <mclement.765442884@access3>
References: <2no67h$ls5@galaxy.ucr.edu>
curt@doumi.ucr.edu (Curt Burgess) writes:
>Does anyone know of an App that allows Mac software to run
>on the NeXT? Something like a SoftPC for doing Mac stuff...
>I haven't noticed any ads for something like this in NeXTWORLD
>or on the net.
Read the FAQs. They're on cs.orst.edu under /pub/next. To save you the
trouble, I've copied out the applicable sections...
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: A3. Can I run Macintosh Programs on my NeXT?
NEXTSTEP systems are able to read, write, and format Mac diskettes in
addition to UNIX filesystems. Consult the User Manual.
Abacus R&D, Inc. offers products called Executor and HFS_XFer that
allow some Mac functionality.
Executor is a program that allows you to run programs originally
written for the Macintosh, on your NeXT computer. Currently the
two major applications that we support are Microsoft Word (versions
4.0E, 5.0 and 5.1) and Microsoft Excel (versions 3.0A and 4.0).
You must own a copy of these applications in order to use them;
Microsoft software does not come with Executor. Executor is
actually a full-blown Macintosh emulator, except we have
prioritized the bug fixing and fixed all the bugs pertaining to
Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel so that we can sell this version
now to people who want it. Executor works nicely in the NeXT
environment, allowing the use of services and cut and paste of
ASCII and Rich Text between Executor and other NEXTSTEP
applications. Word 5 can read and print .eps and .tiff files.
Reverse engineering the Macintosh is a difficult task. There are
some pieces of the software yet to do. Consequently, Executor 1.x
has the following limitations: No Color, No Sound, No System 7,
No AppleTalk, No Script Manage (i.e. no non-US localizations) and
limited Desk Accessory support.
HFS_XFer is a Desk Accessory that allows you to transfer files
between HFS (Hierarchical FileSystem) Macintosh disks and the NeXT,
where they're stored in Apple Double format. This allows you to
copy files to the NeXT and later back to a Macintosh floppy without
having to worry about reassembling the "resource fork". Naturally
HFS_XFer and Executor work well together. HFS_XFer is what you
use to load your copy of Microsoft Word onto your NeXT in the first
place, but it's good for much more than that because you can use
it to transfer any information on a Macintosh disk to your NeXT,
and vice-versa.
The extensions to HFS that were introduced with System 7 are not
supported, and files are transferred over directly without any
translation in between. HFS_XFer reads and writes Mac floppies
and reads Mac hard drives and CD-ROMs. HFS_XFer is limited to
disks that the hardware can read, so you can not read 800k disks
unless you have special hardware such as the CubeFloppy Plus from
DIT.
A complete (multi-architecture-binary), time-limited, release of
Executor is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.unm.edu for
evaluation.
ARDI
Suite 101
1650 University Blvd. NE
Albuquerque, NM 87102
PHONE: +1 505 766 9115
FAX: +1 505 247 1899
Email: questions@ardi.com
Digital Instrumentation Technology vends software called
FloppyWorks which can read and write Macintosh diskettes.
DIT also offers an external floppy drive called CubeFloppy Plus that
can format, read, and write 400 and 800 KB Mac disks.
For more information:
Digital Instrumentation Technology
email: sales@dit.com
Voice: 505 662 1459
Fax: 505 662 0897
Bill Roth has written a program called MacinDisk ToshBrowser which
read 1.4 Meg Mac disks. A demo version is available on
sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
For more information:
Impact Software
email: impact@impact.shaman.com
voice: 1-800-822-3385.
[From: sanguish@digifix.com]
There is also a program on sonata/orst/compuserve called
ResDump.tar.Z that will let you snarf individual resources
from Macintosh disks under 3.x.
____________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: How fast is SOFT PC?
Message-ID: <Cnn0pw.nE@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:08:19 GMT
Could anybody give me an impression or example of speed from SoftPC
under NeXT-Step?
Manfred
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Font-konverter NeXT to TYPE1
Message-ID: <CnqEKu.MF@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:00:30 GMT
Does anybody know about a possibility to convert a NeXT-font back into
TYPE 1 again?
Manfred
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From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby)
Subject: Re: Free VT??? emulation somewhere?
Message-ID: <1994Apr4.105101.10401@rdbois.uucp>
Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby)
Organization: S.RUBY
References: <V7FNBRJH@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 10:51:01 GMT
In article <V7FNBRJH@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan
Trebels) writes:
> I've been advised, I forgot my "perform strict VT100 emulation"
> switch, which indeed got lost some days ago :-( Thanks Scott!
>
> Sorry for wasting bandwidth.
>
It is not wasting bandwidth, it is very interesting. I did not know there was
such a switch in Info/Preference. We should all look more into Preferences
shouldn't we.
Anyway I do not think any question is stupid, because even if the answer is
widely known, it will at least help all these who did not dare to ask!
Serge
From: me@vigor.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Virtuoso problems
Date: 4 Apr 1994 11:47:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nounk$rn@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I'm greatly impressed with AltSys Virtuoso, does a much pbetter job than
Adobe Illustrator running on our SGI Indigos (slow), but am having a few
non-trivial problems with it.
Version PR 1.01 MAB running on NSI 3.2.
1) If I change the size of an included EPS object by changing its
dimensions in the Element Inspector and save the document, when I
reload the document, that EPS object has now completely disappeared!
BUT, if I rescale that same object by manually using the scale tool,
and do not touch the values in the Element Inspector at all, save
the document, and then reopen the document, everything is fine.
2) The EPS files created by "Save as EPS" are unappreciated by most other
PS interpreters. So, neither Ghostscript nor Ghostview will preview
them, and sending them to a PS printer hooked up to a non-Next
workstation produces no output (the old showpage problem?).
3) Using "snap to guides" can crash the entire system (not just Virtuosos,
but the OS!).
Has anyone else experienced any of these problems?
Thanks for any info.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
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From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1994Apr5.215534.9003@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de
Organization: Westwerk
References: <1508@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:55:34 GMT
In article <1508@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
writes:
> Michael Burgstahler writes
>
> > Illustrator (especially the new 5.0) still hasn't learned to get rid of
> > those FUCKING dialogs, but flashes users with oh-so-nice gradients and
> > automatic filters, which only brain-dead "designers" will use !
>
> > Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS !
>
>
> How old are you? Illustrator and Freehand are both very professional
> products with sophisticated features, and lots of professional
> designers get work done with both of them. You really don't impress
> anyone, except perhaps yourself, with this kind of ranting on the net.
>
> Although I do have to concede that I was in Fry's Electronics the
> other night and there were two people trying to decide whether to
> buy Illustrator or Freehand. One of them said, "but I read on the net
> that Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS!" and it really seemed to
> sway the buying decision.
Sorry about those open words, but that time is felt really provocated by the
silly Illu/Virty-comparison in the previous posting. I'm getting angry when
people talk to a large audience about the quality of software and apparently
haven't done an intensive and fair comparison. Unfortunately one can see the
results of such disinformation in our computer world today. I think, this was
and still is one of the fundamentals of the DOS/WIN-success: Alternatives (e.g.
NEXTSTEP) are not discussed seriously and decisions are made with lacking
knowledge of disadvantages.
I'm doing business using graphics software for several years and have laid my
hand on many apps on different platforms. I've given courses for graphics
software as well. Illustrator and Freehand/Virtuoso were my tools for numerous
productions of brochures, folders, ads, presentations, etc. I used both on
MacIntosh and NEXTSTEP under the pressure of short deadlines, limited budget
and customers demands. In the end I have learned to evaluate the basic approach
of Freehand/Virtuoso much more than the (IMHO few) better functions of
Illustrator. Until Illu5.0 you couldn't have layers - what a mess!
Another problem lies in the professional use of apps like Illustrator and
Freehand. Since the dawn of DTP/PostScript you can create templates for
professional printing with only an affordable computer - and without
professional knowledge of design, typo & production. The stunning results are
visible everwhere and everyday in printed matter: Try to spot the used graphics
software in an advertising. You can easily identify special functions of
Freehand, CorelDraw, PhotoShop in numerous printings - executed with standard
parameters!
Using all those nice filter functions and built-in 3D-distortions isn't
creative and mostly has nothing to do with the contents/message, which should
be transported to the viewer. Illustrator 5.0 goes the many-nice-filters way
and joins the lots-of-parameters-path, whereas Freehand/Virtuoso is
concentrating on ease-of-use, seamless production and silent flexibility.
Illustrator 5.0 has more features, functions, parameters and panels. But this
is also true for Word, Excel, WordPerfect, 1-2-3 and so on. And all these
latter apps offer things like "Assistants", "OnlineGuides", "Tutors" to explain
the growing universe of menu cells.
When you're doing business in graphic design honestly, you shouldn't be aware
of using a special graphics software. It should feel as natural as a pencil -
and this is IMHO definitely more fulfilled by Freehand/Virtuoso than by
Illustrator.
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From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Thanks to Pages
Date: 7 Apr 1994 00:09:07 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2nviv3$pio@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Just wanted to publicly thank Pages for their quick
fix of version 1.0, which would not import or copy/
paste accented characters (though I could input
them directly). In 10 days they had a new
version out (1.02) and sent to me. Good job!
They also respond very promptly to email
for tech support. BTW, it's a very cool
app, too.
Robert de Lucca
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From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson)
Subject: CoXist or MouseX?
Message-ID: <1994Apr6.235146.5836@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 23:51:46 GMT
Our department has just acquired a big server, and I would like to install
X-windows on my NeXTCube (running NeXTStep 3.0) to access that server, and
also to access Mosaic on the Internet. I'm trying to decide between CoXist
($200) and MouseX (free). I would like to try the MouseX if I could find
it in package form which I could easily install. Does anyone know an ftp
location which has the latest pkg version of MouseX which will run on
NeXTStep 3.0? Also, I would welcome any advice on which of CoXist or
MouseX would be better for my purposes. If I get CoXist, should I get it
with Motif?
Thanks,
Bill Anderson
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX?
Date: 7 Apr 1994 01:15:48 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2nvms4$o5h@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1994Apr6.235146.5836@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Apr6.235146.5836@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>,
Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>Our department has just acquired a big server, and I would like to install
>X-windows on my NeXTCube (running NeXTStep 3.0) to access that server, and
>also to access Mosaic on the Internet. I'm trying to decide between CoXist
>($200) and MouseX (free). I would like to try the MouseX if I could find
>it in package form which I could easily install. Does anyone know an ftp
>location which has the latest pkg version of MouseX which will run on
>NeXTStep 3.0? Also, I would welcome any advice on which of CoXist or
>MouseX would be better for my purposes. If I get CoXist, should I get it
>with Motif?
>
Go with the commercial product. It will run xMosaic with all of the
proper tags for audio, etc (with a little fidgeting). You'll get tech
support, and it runs concurrently with NeXT instead having to hot
key b/w the 2.
The shareware is available at foxtrot.ucsb.edu
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From: anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta)
Subject: histograms, stem and leaf plots, etc?
Message-ID: <1994Apr7.000539.13238@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:05:39 GMT
Is there software around that does any of this? Of course, a NeXTstep
interface would be preferred, but I'm not in a position to argue :-)
Thanks,
-Anand
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From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: histograms, stem and leaf plots, etc?
Date: 7 Apr 1994 02:16:18 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2nvqdi$8ic@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <1994Apr7.000539.13238@news.yale.edu>
In article <1994Apr7.000539.13238@news.yale.edu> mehta-anand@yale.edu writes:
>Is there software around that does any of this? Of course, a NeXTstep
>interface would be preferred, but I'm not in a position to argue :-)
xlispstat will do these. I've attached information about
how to get it; I believe that there is a compiled version at
cs.orst.edu.
===========
xlispstat -- Object oriented statistics package. Very impressive.
Anonymous ftp source code and documentation from umnstat.stat.umn.edu.
Can be compiled for "generic unix" or for X windows.
Generic unix. This way you have all the computational tools, but only
minimal graphics capability. In order to compile this version, change
the GRAPHSYS flag from X11WINDOWS to GNUPLOT in the Makefile.
In the generic version, xlispstat produces Tektronics output for a few
simple types of plots. You can cut and paste this output into a file
and run it through ps4014 to view the output on the NeXT. To do this,
use the ps4014 emulator in the extended distribution:
ps4014 -R -S 7 < infile.tek > outfile.ps
The resulting ps file can be viewed using Preview. You can also run
it through Darcy Brockbank's program ps2eps and produce an eps file
that can inserted into documents, etc.
X Windows. This gives you access to the many graphics tools,
including spinplots, scatterplots, histograms, box plots, etc.
Make the following changes to the modifiable part of the Makefile will
compile xlispstat using co-Xist libraries for X Windows. It assumes
that you have installed co-Xist and xlispstat in the default location.
I'm told that it also compiles with mouseX, but haven't checked this
myself.
------------------------------cut here----------------------------------
#Makefile for xlispstat
#Minor modifications by Hal Varian (HRV) for NeXT
# Directories
# XLISPLIB is where the xlisp executable, the .lsp files to be loaded on
# startup and the examples are to be kept.
# BINDIR is where the xlispstat shell script is to be put.
#
# NOTE: if XLISPLIB is not empty it MUST end with a /
XLISPLIB=/usr/local/lib/xlispstat/
BINDIR=/usr/local/bin
##############################################################################
# HRV: Graphics system. Uncomment one of the following choices:
# HRV: use GNUPLOT if you don't have Xwindows
#GRAPHSYS = GNUPLOT
#GRAPHSYS = SUNVIEW
GRAPHSYS = X11WINDOWS
##############################################################################
# Sun Operating System Version. Only used for SUNVIEW graphics system.
# Use SUN3X for sun OS 3.X and SUN4X for sun OS 4.X under SunView;
#SUNOS = SUN3X
#SUNOS = SUN4X
##############################################################################
# User Compiler Flags
# Add a -I directive if the X11 include files are not in a standard place
# For Sun's OpenLook, for example, add -I/usr/openwin/include
#UCFLAGS = -O -f68881
#ULDFLAGS = -f68881
#HRV: eliminate 68881 option; add= -D flag to avoid link conflict
UCFLAGS = -O -v -Draise=rraise
ULDFLAGS =
CC=cc
LD=ld
##############################################################################
# Foreign function call flag. If this flag is defined you should also
# define a machine chosen from one of the directories in the machines
# directory. Look at the README file in the machine directory for your
# machine - you may have to add some additional compiler or ld flags
# to make dynamic loading work.
#
# If you do not want to use foreign function calling define the machine
# as `generic'
#FOREIGN_FLAG = -DFOREIGNCALL
#MACHINE = sun3
#HRV: use generic machine
MACHINE = generic
##############################################################################
# Additional libraries and files to load at compile time
EXTRALIBS=
EXTRAOBJS=
##############################################################################
# Directory to search for X11 libraries (libX11.a, etc.)
#HRV: this is where co-Xist puts the X11 libraries
X11LIBDIR=/usr/include/X11
###############################################################################
### ###
### DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE ###
### ###
###############################################################################
###############################################################################
[rest of makefile is the same]
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From: lazar@enel.ucalgary.ca (Michael Lazar)
Subject: Re: Clarifying problem with Omniweb
Message-ID: <Apr7.005040.48118@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:50:40 GMT
References: <2ns78g$h72@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <2nv19c$sgp@network.ucsd.edu>
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
In article <2nv19c$sgp@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes:
>In article <2ns78g$h72@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
>jtake@rocky.civil.ualberta.ca (Peaceful times have come and gone...)
>writes:
>> I believe my problems with Omniweb are a bit more specific than my
>> original post indicated.
>
>Just to add my two cents, I have the exact same problem (as far as I
>can tell) as John. The Omni logo shifts from an image icon to the nice
>image of the logo, but the rest of the documents are filled with
>text and ICONS, not text and IMAGES. Annoying.
>
> [munch]
>
>Other info: I'm running a black slab with NS3.0.
>
>Brian
I don't know if this is the same problem I'm having, which is
that OmniImageFilter doesn't seem to register itself as a
service, so... image conversions are done with ImageViewer. This
is fine for most WWW sites I've visited, but there are the
occasional icons which don't get converted.
So, here's my question. How have people managed to get OmniImageFilter
to register itself as a service? (Yes, I've followed the instructions
in the README file, and logged out and then back in).
Thx in advance.
michael
lazar@enel.ucalgary.ca
BTW: congrats to the Omnigroup for a great piece of alpha software!!
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Pages or PasteUp?
Message-ID: <1994Apr3.081654.1678@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <MARCUS.94Mar31031301@tdb.ee.pdx.edu>
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 08:16:54 GMT
In article <MARCUS.94Mar31031301@tdb.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus
Daniels) writes:
> >>>>> "Gerben" == Gerben Wierda <gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
> writes: In article
> <1994Mar31.093512.747@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
> gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
>
> Gerben> Well, now suddenly there seem to be two exiting dtp products
> Gerben> out for NEXTSTEP? I read the Pages Technology White Paper from
> Gerben> Pages and it seems great. I'd like to know more about PasteUP,
> Gerben> and especially how do they compare?
>
>
> PasteUp would be fine if:
>
> 1. If the text handling was much faster.
> 2. If there were less damn panels everywhere, other misc. quirks.
> 3. If it didn't crash every five minutes.
>
> I haven't bothered checking into the status of 2.2. When, how
> much, etc.? Anyone know?
>
> In order for PasteUp to be much more useful than Virtuoso, or
> Tailor, for that matter, it needs lots more attention paid to
> text layout, and import/export features. 3.0 object linking
> would be nice too.
>
It would be quite unfair to judge a product after a comparision with a
brand new one. Especially if a full overhaul is in the queue.
PasteUp is a frame based publishing system with very strong page layout
features. It is especially strong in page layout of complicated
documents. And it is very accurate in that. It has frame based text
features that are rather extensive. It isn't a text processor, though (no
indexing, no referencing, no footnote support), even if you can substitute
for these features quite easily. But comparing it on text features only
does it no service!
The above criticism (Marcus Daniel's, of cause ;-) is perfectly right.
But from my correspondence with the current owner (Anderson Financial) I'm
confident that all of them will be addressed. And its decendant, WriteUp,
gives a good impression about this. The Igor filter service will provide
strong document exchange cababilities and future extensibility. And most
of the other problems might be done with, also.
Let's wait 'till the new release is out. I expect to see a rather new
app...
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Font-konverter NeXT to TYPE1
In-Reply-To: manroe@manki.toppoint.de's message of Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:00:30 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Apr4105622@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <CnqEKu.MF@manki.toppoint.de>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:56:22 GMT
Manfred Roehr writes:
Manfred> Does anybody know about a possibility to convert a NeXT-font back
Manfred> into TYPE 1 again?
NeXT fonts *are* Type 1, in the "uncompressed" (aka Unix) format. The PC
and Mac formats add a little bit of wrapper information, and binary encode
the encoded portion of the font (rather than hex encode is as in the
uncompressed version).
Adding back in that extra information isn't too had, but best get something
like Fontographer to do it for you.
--
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Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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From: haw30@eng.amdahl.com (Henry A Worth)
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Message-ID: <1994Apr4.173523.11421@ccc.amdahl.com>
Sender: netnews@ccc.amdahl.com (UTS Tech Support)
Organization: Amdahl
References: <2mslqq$1vl8@rs560.cl.msu.edu> <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> <DAVEH.94Mar28165649@canopus.commodore.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:35:23 GMT
In article <DAVEH.94Mar28165649@canopus.commodore.com>, daveh@canopus.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
|>
|> In article <1994Mar25.175046.28527@ccc.amdahl.com> haw30@eng.amdahl.com (Henry A Worth) writes:
|> In article <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>, michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
|>
|> |> Do NOT buy ANY Diamond products! They are not and will never be
|> |> supported by XFree86 (although a few adventerous souls have gotten
|> |> them to limp along at times). Diamond will not allow their drivers to
|> |> be public and doesn't care at all that this may cost them a sale
|> |> because you run a free "unix". They are quite indifferent to the
|> |> pleas of free "unix" users.
|>
|> A small point, none of the chip/board vendors provide driver code,
|> the issue is whether they will provide hardware documentation, without
|> non-disclosure agreements, that will allow a 3rd party, like the
|> XFree86[TM] project, write X drivers that can be released to the
|> public in source form. A few vendors go the extra mile and provide
|> some tech support, loaner boards, or bits of example code, but such
|> cooperation is not a pre-req to XFree86 support.
|>
|> Some companies will provide register-level information on their chips
|> without extra cost or NDAs. If you can get this, it matters very
|> little what the card's manufacturer will or won't supply. We're not
|> talking about a custom design here -- all of the graphic cards based
|> on a handful of controller chips. At most, the card vendor gets to
|> pick a LUT/DAC, clock synthesizer, and DRAM configuration.
|>
As the level of on-chip integration gets higher, the role of the
board designer is reduced. But, there are still some design
decisions that are left up to the board designers, i.e. how the
extended control registers in the newer RAMDAC's and external
progammable clock generators are mapped into the I/O address space,
and by what convoluted sequences they are accessed.
I'm currently having to work thru a board vendor to get such
information for the server I'm working on. The accelerator
chip only provides one extra RAMDAC address bit. That one bit,
combined with the standard VGA LUT addresses, is enough to access
only half the control registers on the RAMDAC used, leaving it up
to the board designer to handle the mapping of the RAMDAC's registers.
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No, I don't speak for Amdahl... I'm not even sure I speak for myself.
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Virtuoso problems
Message-ID: <1994Apr4.180223.2843@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <2nounk$rn@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:02:23 GMT
In article <2nounk$rn@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu writes:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm greatly impressed with AltSys Virtuoso, does a much pbetter job than
>>Adobe Illustrator running on our SGI Indigos (slow), but am having a few
>>non-trivial problems with it.
>>
>>Version PR 1.01 MAB running on NSI 3.2.
>>
>>2) The EPS files created by "Save as EPS" are unappreciated by most other
>> PS interpreters. So, neither Ghostscript nor Ghostview will preview
>> them, and sending them to a PS printer hooked up to a non-Next
>> workstation produces no output (the old showpage problem?).
>>
Well, I'm not sure what you mean by the "old showpage" problem, but an
EPS file, by definition, shouldn't have a showpage on it since it's intended
to be included on another page.
Having said that, while I have had problems with FreeHand 4's exporting
of EPS (nothing on the NeXT has a problem, but I'm crashing Adobe
PhotoShop on the Mac), I haven't had any problems with Virtuoso 1.0
exporting EPS, and I do this a lot.
>>3) Using "snap to guides" can crash the entire system (not just Virtuosos,
>> but the OS!).
Actually, I vaguely remember that being a problem in pre-1.0 days - I seem
to remember that it had something to do with sounds... You might turn off
the fact that Virtuoso plays a sound when you snap to guides.
good luck.
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
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From: macrae@pandora.geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae)
Subject: Re: Virtuoso problems - really ghostscript bugs (?), and add "showpage"
Message-ID: <Apr7.030330.52743@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 03:03:30 GMT
References: <2nounk$rn@netnews.upenn.edu>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada
In article <2nounk$rn@netnews.upenn.edu> me@vigor.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe
Panico) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm greatly impressed with AltSys Virtuoso, does a much pbetter job than
> Adobe Illustrator running on our SGI Indigos (slow), but am having a few
> non-trivial problems with it.
>
> Version PR 1.01 MAB running on NSI 3.2.
>
..
> 2) The EPS files created by "Save as EPS" are unappreciated by most
> other
> PS interpreters. So, neither Ghostscript nor Ghostview will preview
> them, and sending them to a PS printer hooked up to a non-Next
> workstation produces no output (the old showpage problem?).
I have encountered two issues with Ghostscript and EPS output from
FreeHand/Virtuoso:
1.) the /fhnumcolors procedure uses statusdict in a way which
certain versions of Ghostscript do not like. This can be fixed by either
commenting out everything between (and including) "statusdict begin" and
"end" in the /fhnumcolors procedure (no side-effects for ghostscript use),
or getting the most recent patches to Ghostscript, which appear to fix
this problem.
2.) "makepattern undefined" errors result if tiled patterns are
used.
This one is really odd. "makepattern" - a Level 2 operator - is
not (according to a recent post in gnu.ghostscript.bugs by one of the
authors - post <9403302200.1.UUL1.3#5127@aladdin.com>) implemented in
ghostscript v.2.6.1. EPS output from FreeHand/Virtuoso checks for the
presence of "makepattern" using the "which" operator, and if not defined,
Level 1 emulation code is used. This is the proper thing to do (see the
Adobe "Red Book", 2nd edition, p.588-589). I.e. there should be no
problem on either Level 1 or Level 2 devices, and there should be no
problem with ghostscript either. However, for some reason, the test for
"makepattern" in ghostscript v.2.6.1 (pl.4) _succeeds_, but the later
invokation of "makepattern" _fails_ with the "makepattern undefined"
error. This is a bit contradictory :-), and theoretically can not happen
with the logic of the Postscript code. To make the situation more odd,
the source-code for ghostscript _does_ define a "makepattern"
implementation in "zcolor2.c". If this code is disabled, and ghostscript
recompiled, the "makepattern" test correctly fails, the Level 1 emulation
code is used, and all is happy.
So, the short answer appears to be: there is a bug in ghostscript
v.2.6.1pl.4 that claims "makepattern" is implemented (and it appears as if
it might be in the source-code), but it is not (or at least the invokation
fails).
The solution: 1) Either patch ghostscript to remove the
"zmakepattern()" and initialization of the routine a few lines below, in
the file "zcolor2.c" of the ghostscript source, or 2) in the EPS file,
change the line:
/makepattern defed /xt xdf
to:
%/makepattern defed /xt xdf
false /xt xdf
To force the Level 1 emulation to be used by the EPS file.
I.e. this appears to be a ghostscript problem, NOT a Virtuoso
problem. I have forwarded a description of the problem to
gnu.ghostscript.bug, so hopefully people can confirm it.
I highly recommend Virtuoso, especially since the ghostscript "problems"
are not Virtuoso's fault (as near as I can tell), and can be easily
circumvented with a simple perl, awk, or sed script that modifies the EPS
files. This issue should become moot when ghostscript v.3.0 is out, which
fully implements "makepattern" (according to posts in
gnu.ghostscript.bug).
Finally, in order to get the EPS files exported by Virtuoso to
print directly to a printer, add a "showpage" immediately before the last
"end" in the file (the one just before the "%%Trailer" comment). A
"showpage" is ok in an EPS file (see the Adobe "Red Book", 2nd edition,
p.719). There should also be an "%%EOF" as the last line of the file.
Although this is not required, some software depends upon it.
Good luck,
-Andrew
macrae@pandora.geo.ucalgary.ca
or: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille)
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window !
Message-ID: <CnvHwz.3Gr@cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
References: <1994Apr6.235146.5836@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 05:00:34 GMT
In article <1994Apr6.235146.5836@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca
(Bill Anderson) writes:
> Our department has just acquired a big server, and I would like to install
> X-windows on my NeXTCube (running NeXTStep 3.0) to access that server, and
> also to access Mosaic on the Internet. I'm trying to decide between CoXist
> ($200) and MouseX (free). I would like to try the MouseX if I could find
> it in package form which I could easily install. Does anyone know an ftp
> location which has the latest pkg version of MouseX which will run on
> NeXTStep 3.0? Also, I would welcome any advice on which of CoXist or
> MouseX would be better for my purposes. If I get CoXist, should I get it
> with Motif?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill Anderson
--
Neither ! Try Cub'X-Window instead ! You'll find a demo on ftp.cs.orst.edu in
/pub/next/XNeXT. Take all the files starting by CubX... they are all
interesting.
Best regards,
- Eric
"The trouble with our times is
that the future is not what it
used to be." - Paul Valery
_____________________________________________________________________
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX?
Date: 7 Apr 1994 02:05:41 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
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References: <1994Apr6.235146.5836@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) writes:
> Also, I would welcome any advice on which of CoXist
> or MouseX would be better for my purposes. If I get CoXist, should
> I get it with Motif?
Note there's another commercial package out there, called Cub'x.
I have coXist myself, and it seems fine to me, but I thought I
should mention the other option.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteNow/Mac 4.0 raises the bar for NS word processors
Date: 7 Apr 1994 02:12:45 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nvq6t$7l5@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <Cntp15.Bu@dsinc!flash>
flash!jon@myxa.com writes:
> I'd be willing to bet that at no time will AFS support features
> that prolong PowerBook Battery life. :)
I would not necessarily make that bet. NeXTSTEP might find itself
on PowerPC-based Mac powerbooks someday, after all. Even ignoring
that, it's certain to find itself on other notebook computers.
> Exactly what general purpose features are described that WriteUp
> (for example) is missing? I certainly don't see anything there
> which is essential for "general purpose" word processing.
I tend to think he copied in the wrong paragraph or something.
WriteNow 4.0 on the Mac is a very nice word-processor, though
that paragraph doesn't give much of the reasons why it is...
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: vasu@beancounter.commerce.ubc.ca (Vasu Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages -- font oddities, no landscape
Date: 2 Apr 1994 01:39:47 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <2niid3$c0f@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <9403280108.AA01789@cantina.lanl.gov>
In article <9403280108.AA01789@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
(Dick Silbar) writes:
(Stuff deleted)
A few more "features" that I wish weren't there in Pages:
1. Changing some styles forces other styles to revert to the default.
For e.g., changing the typeface from Helvetica to Times resets
justification and font size.
2. The type size in footnotes and tables does not adjust to a type size
change in the body text.
3. There is no way (as far as I can detect) to remove a special paragraph
style from a paragraph, or to create a custom paragraph style directly
from the default text style.
--
Vasu Krishnamurthy
Faculty of Commerce and Business Administration
University of British Columbia
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...NOT!!
Date: 7 Apr 1994 05:44:51 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2o06kj$3jb@news.csus.edu>
References: <1994Apr6.235146.5836@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <CnvHwz.3Gr@cs.uiuc.edu>
Intuitive Systems has earned a distinguished place high on our
"Companies NEVER to do business with" list, due in no small part
to repeated bombardment with unwanted electronic junk mail, which
did not stop despite repeated pleas that they cease and desist.
If you're looking for a commercially supported product, consider
either Pencom's co-Xist or White Pine's eXodus. Both of these
companies conduct themselves responsibly and professionally.
Please do not respond to Mr. de la Tribouille--you ignore this
advice at your own peril!
-=EPS=-
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteNow/Mac 4.0 raises the bar for NS word processors
Date: 7 Apr 94 06:08:08 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.765698888@uiuc.edu>
References: <jeffo.765591080@uiuc.edu> <Cntp15.Bu@dsinc!flash>
flash!jon@myxa.com writes:
>I'd be willing to bet that at no time will AFS support features that prolong
>PowerBook Battery life. :)
I think it's worth keeping in mind in case there's a snappy PowerPC
Mac PowerBook someday, but that wasn't the part that could be worked
on now. Perhaps worth considering for Intel portables that run on
batteries now.
>On the other hand, please note the version number above: 4.0. Assuming they
>don't subscribe to the Microsoft method of version numbering, that
>means it has been through 4 versions, in at least 4 years, probably
>more.
But today's NS word processors will be compared against the competition,
regardless of version. It's quite simple, really, other word processors
have this stuff and NS word processors don't. I'm curious if NS word
processors will ever get up to speed and offer something that can compete
against these products.
>Exactly what general purpose features are described that WriteUp (for example)
>is missing? I certainly don't see anything there which is essential for
>"general purpose" word processing.
According to many, underline, footnotes and endnotes are missing, and
they are all essential (but unmentioned in the quote). Maybe not for
you personally, but for *many* users. I think you'd be saying
something different if you could actually use the features. As it is,
many other word processors can do tables (quite good to have in
general purpose word processors like Ami Pro, MS Word and WordPerfect
and now WriteNow), but no NS word processor can do it that would be in
the same category as these.
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteNow/Mac 4.0 raises the bar for NS word processors
Date: 7 Apr 94 06:16:57 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.765699417@uiuc.edu>
References: <Cntp15.Bu@dsinc!flash> <2nvq6t$7l5@usenet.rpi.edu>
Garance A. Drosehn writes:
>I tend to think he copied in the wrong paragraph or something.
>WriteNow 4.0 on the Mac is a very nice word-processor, though
>that paragraph doesn't give much of the reasons why it is...
Nor was I posting to point that out. As was clear to many other
readers who contacted me, I quoted what was relevant for my question.
In case you still think I copied the wrong information, check out the
source and verify that I didn't misrepresent what was put there.
My question, as I also clearly asked, was when NS word processors will
become competitive and consider the current competition instead of
lagging behind the rest as NS word processors of this kind (I've heard
them called general-purpose to differentiate them from Pages or Frame
which could be long and regular or PasteUp which could be layout) have
consistently done.
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: t9116ts@tech.mis.cfc.com (Todd M. Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep Ports
Date: 6 Apr 94 13:09:58
Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Center Line, MI
Message-ID: <T9116TS.94Apr6130958@litespeed.tech.mis.cfc.com>
References: <2nnjgd$h6t@access1.digex.net>
In-reply-to: gva@access1.digex.net's message of 3 Apr 1994 19:29:17 -0400
In article <2nnjgd$h6t@access1.digex.net>, gva@access1.digex.net (Global Virtual Access) writes:
>With all the talk, I've been a little confused as to which platforms NS
>is actually being ported to. I've heard some rumors, etc... Maybe
>someone would be willing to summarize and set the record straight...
>NS is availble or will be avilable for:
>Black Hardware (obviously)
>Intel, 486 or higher
>Alpha (I've heard rumors...)
>PowerPC (More rumors...)
>And howabout the Next/Sun alliance? Does that mean I'll be able to buy a
>Sparc 1 running NS?
I doubt it. Sun hasn't made SPARC 1's in years. I'm going to assume
you meant a SPARC 10 in which case the answer is yes, a port to SPARC
has been announced.
Todd
--
_____ __ __ ____
|_ _| \/ | ___| Todd M. Swan - tms@cfc.com - CFC, Center Line, MI
| | | |__ | The flame at the heart of a pawnbroker's diamond
|_| |_|\/|_|____| is a cold fire. - Rush
From: ed@sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cannot read rtf-file from Edit into WordPerfect
Date: 7 Apr 1994 08:59:51 GMT
Organization: Sogn og Fjordane Ingeniorhogskole
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2o0i27$1u3@due.uninett.no>
Apart from some errors on international characters rtf-files exported
from WordPerfect imports fine into Edit.
The oposite way however, it's just a mess. All characters are in the same
font and size. Line-feeds are ignored etc. I looked on the two files (the one
exported from WP and the same file 'Saved As' from Edit) in an ascii editor
and among other differences I found that line-feed in Edit's file is '\' and
in WP's file '\par'.
Is there a filter (command-line is OK) that can convert the rtf-file
from Edit so that WP will read it properly, and/or are there people with
the same problems that can help me on how to make a filter?
In order to gain acceptance for NEXTSTEP here, file exhange between WP
and NEXTSTEP is crucial.
Thanks in advance
Eystein Dugstad
Sogn og Fjordane Engineering College, Norway
From: amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: .arj files and NeXT black...
Date: 7 Apr 1994 04:32:32 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <2o0ng0$kc5@vesta.unm.edu>
Summary: does any one have an app... or code for that matter...
Keywords: .unpacking an arj file...
Hi! just one question... Does any one know if theres a
binary for NeXTstep to unpack a .arj archive? (or even any
unix utilities, these will have to be source)
any help world be enjoyed!
--Aaron...
--
amb78@unm.edu
--------------------------------------------------------------
Yes... I remember when NeXT wasn't just a software company...
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteNow/Mac 4.0 raises the bar for NS word processors
Date: 6 Apr 94 00:11:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.765591080@uiuc.edu>
Summary: It behooves NS wordprocessor developers to review the competition.
I was reading the May 1994 MacWorld and I saw this: (reproduced
without permission--any misspellings are mine and completely
unintentional)
[page 131] snippet from the "In Brief" column:
WriteNow 4.0 still compact
===
"WriteNow 4.0 takes up only 350k on disk and can run in 400k of RAM; a
preference setting loads the program completely into memory, reducing
disk accesses and prolonging PowerBook battery life. The new version
adds a full-featured table editor, can crop and resize imported
graphics, has filters for QuarkXPress and Aldus PageMaker, and has a
palette to simplify setting up mail merges. WriteNow 4.0 is shipping
at $119.95. WordStar, 415/382-8000, 800/227-5609"
====
There are other features that other Mac and Windows word processors
have that WriteNow/Mac 4.0 doesn't, but since NS word processors are
still in catch-up mode, I figure I'd start with small questions and
move toward actual competitiveness later.
So current and upcoming NS word processor developers, can we expect to
see these features in NS word processors? Is anyone besides AFS
making a general-purpose word processor app?
[BTW: I'm looking for competitive GUI word processors, not TeX, not
emacs + TeX or anything TeX-based. TeX is nice, but not for users who
want GUI solutions. I've got the money to pay for something that is
competitive and won't be unsupported next year. However, I'm not
willing to pay for something that can't accomplish the basic tasks all
word processor users have come to expect from a product.]
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jtainio@siika.ratol.fi (Jukka Tainio)
Subject: Re: .arj files and NeXT black...
Message-ID: <1994Apr7.114348.17033@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
Organization: Raahe institute of computer technology, Raahe, Finland
References: <2o0ng0$kc5@vesta.unm.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:43:48 GMT
Aaron M. Brown (amb78@unm.edu) wrote:
: Hi! just one question... Does any one know if theres a
: binary for NeXTstep to unpack a .arj archive? (or even any
: unix utilities, these will have to be source)
Yes, you can try using Opener.app, which can be found at:
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/archiver
*****************************
* Jukka Tainio *
* jtainio@ratol.fi *
* jtainio@tolsun.oulu.fi *
* jtainio@pc-next.vitech.fi *
*****************************
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From: A.Leene@research.ptt.nl (Arnaud Leene)
Subject: Re: Clarifying problem with Omniweb
Message-ID: <1994Apr7.103806.20612@news.research.ptt.nl>
Sender: usenet@news.research.ptt.nl (USEnet News)
Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands
References: <Apr7.005040.48118@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:38:06 GMT
In article <Apr7.005040.48118@acs.ucalgary.ca> lazar@enel.ucalgary.ca
(Michael Lazar) writes:
> In article <2nv19c$sgp@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes:
> >In article <2ns78g$h72@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
> >jtake@rocky.civil.ualberta.ca (Peaceful times have come and gone...)
> >writes:
> >> I believe my problems with Omniweb are a bit more specific than my
> >> original post indicated.
> >
> >Just to add my two cents, I have the exact same problem (as far as I
> >can tell) as John. The Omni logo shifts from an image icon to the nice
> >image of the logo, but the rest of the documents are filled with
> >text and ICONS, not text and IMAGES. Annoying.
> >
> > [munch]
> >
> >Other info: I'm running a black slab with NS3.0.
> >
> >Brian
>
> I don't know if this is the same problem I'm having, which is
> that OmniImageFilter doesn't seem to register itself as a
> service, so... image conversions are done with ImageViewer. This
> is fine for most WWW sites I've visited, but there are the
> occasional icons which don't get converted.
>
> So, here's my question. How have people managed to get OmniImageFilter
> to register itself as a service? (Yes, I've followed the instructions
> in the README file, and logged out and then back in).
>
> Thx in advance.
>
> michael
Be careful where you put the Apps. I had the same problem and solved the
problems you mentioned by putting OmniWeb and OmniImage in ~/Apps and
OmniImageFilter in ~/Library/Services. Logout and login and things worked
in my case
Arnaud (A.Leene@research.ptt.nl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark Conway)
Subject: Internet access from home
Message-ID: <Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com>
Sender: news@ryn.mro.dec.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Marlboro, MA
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:00:33 GMT
Hi,
I just moved the NeXT from work to home, so I would like
recommendations on the best commercial Internet providers
in terms of Usenet, FTP, E-mail, and other tools such as
Mosaic, Web, etc. What is your setup, and whom do you
recommend?
Thanks - Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dmeny@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (David (CGI FX) Meny)
Subject: HELP: Using Renderman on the NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Apr06.020834.186111@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 1994 02:08:34 GMT
Newsgroups: poly.club.next
Subject: HELP: Using Renderman on a NeXT
Summary:
Expires:
Sender:
Followup-To:
Distribution: usa
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Keywords:
Cc:
Help!
I'm using Renderman on a color NeXT and have two questions:
1. Is it possible to generate pictures (or RIB files) from Renderman source
code without using the 3DKit?
I've typed in a simple Renderman program (included below) which compiles
fine. However, nothing is outputted when I run this program.
I've looked at the SimpleCamera application in the
NextDeveloper/Examples/3DKit/ directory but I need to generate a
series of frames for an animation.
2. Can someone point me to a good example of using the N3DMovieCamera object?
The documentation on this class appears very interesting, but I'm having
a little trouble making it work.
Thanks for any help/suggestions you can give me!
>> David Meny <<
Please reply to: dmeny@flute.aix.calpoly.edu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
#include <ri.h>
RtPoint Square[4] =
{ {.5, .5, 0}, {.5, -5., 0}, {-.5, -.5, 0}, {-.5, -.5, 0} };
static RtColor color = {.2, .4, .6};
main()
{
RiBegin(RI_NULL);
/* the next command doesn't seem to make a difference */
RiDisplay("output", RI_FILE, RI_RGB, RI_NULL);
RiProjection("perspective", RI_NULL);
RiTranslate(0.0, 0.0, 1.0);
RiRotate(40.0, -1.0, 1.0, 0.0);
RiFrameBegin(1);
RiWorldBegin();
RiSurface("matte", RI_NULL);
RiColor(color);
RiPolygon(4, RI_P, (RtPointer) Square, RI_NULL);
RiWorldEnd();
RiFrameEnd();
RiEnd();
}
"
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ** DFG (Sound for NeXT and Intel) **
Message-ID: <1994Apr7.101152.22740@dal1>
Date: 7 Apr 94 10:11:52 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
We are looking for people with NeXTSTEP on Intel with D/A card.
***************************************************************
Digital Function Generator (DFG) software is a powerful tool for
generation of audio test signals which could be used in acoustics,
physics, electronics, engineering, music etc. This software is
availiable for last 2 years for NeXT computers. At present we are
testing DFG on Intel platforms.
Would you be interested to check our software DFG on your machine ?
Test will take no longer than 15->30 min and you will get useful
DFG_demo.app software. Your help will be highly appreciated.........
We can send DFG_demo.app software via NeXTmail to you. File is only
70 kB long. For those who are on the E-mail but do not know how to
use NeXTmail via E-mail we will send instructions how to do this.
Best regards,
Marek Roland-Mieszkowski
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From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Re: Internet access from home
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <Cnw6IJ.A2q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:51:55 GMT
References: <Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com>
Organization: Purdue Data Network
In article <Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com> conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark
Conway) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just moved the NeXT from work to home, so I would like
> recommendations on the best commercial Internet providers
> in terms of Usenet, FTP, E-mail, and other tools such as
> Mosaic, Web, etc. What is your setup, and whom do you
> recommend?
>
> Thanks - Mark
I would also be interested in that information. Having just
bought a house with an office in it I'm hoping to do more
work there than, well, at work.
If you would post a summary, Mark, I'd be much obliged.
Gracias.
--
Jon Haveman
Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
From: jtod@access3.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac emulator for NeXT?
Date: 6 Apr 1994 03:30:53 GMT
Organization: Wit's End
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ntadd$lsi@news1.digex.net>
References: <2no67h$ls5@galaxy.ucr.edu> <CnrqyD.1uC@infoserv.com>
kent@infoserv.com wrote:
: In article <2no67h$ls5@galaxy.ucr.edu> curt@doumi.ucr.edu (Curt Burgess)
: writes:
: #
: #Does anyone know of an App that allows Mac software to run
: #on the NeXT? Something like a SoftPC for doing Mac stuff...
: #I haven't noticed any ads for something like this in NeXTWORLD
: #or on the net.
: #Thanks, Curt Burgess
: The company is ARDI and the software is Executor.
: You can reach them at 505-766-9115 or email at
: questions@ardi.com.
: Kent
: --
: /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */
: /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Not only software, but hardware, as well. Talk to QUIX about their DayDream
emulator for a Quadra 900. Here is a bit of the header and information that
they sent me email today:
QUIX@applelink.apple.com (Quix Computerware AG, Ebikon,CH,IDP)
TO: John Todd (Fax: / Phone: )
FROM: Andy Grawehr (Fax 011 41 41 348680 / Phone: (201) 928 0420)
D A Y D R E A M
Run Apple* Macintosh* Software on your NeXT* Computer
WE ARE MOST HAPPY TO INFORM YOU that Apple lowered pricing, and YOU will
benefit from this. QUIX now offers daydream for $655, additional rebates
apply
for quantities (see attached list). Previous QUIX customers have been
refunded.
NEW: *** $655 price tag due to price reduction from Apple!
NEW: *** Money Back Guarantee from QUIX
NEW: *** Full NeXT* PRINTER SUPPORT
NEW: *** Full ADB Support
NEW: *** Full 68040 Floating Point Support
PLUS: SEE US AT NEXTSTEP EXPO, June 21-23, BOOTH #224 (QUIX
Computerware)
"We tried to choke Daydream with Photoshop, XPress, and a variety of
accounting applications from Microsoft Word to Peachtree's Insight.
THE RESULT: NO PROBLEMS. Installation took less than five minutes."
"For NeXT users with Mac needs, this package is a dream come true,
providing authentic Mac system software with the performance of a
Quadra 900 AT A FRACTION OF THE COST."
NEXTWORLD Magazine 4/94
[blah blah blah]
It sounds great, and if I didn't just get a job at a UNIX-only shop, I'd
have one on my desk in about four seconds. C'mon, folks, ~$700 for a Quadra
900? ($579 edu pricing!)
--
John Todd -- Sales
Digital Express Group - An Internet Access Provider
Voice: 1-800-969-9090 FAX: 1-301-220-0477
jtodd@digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tnichols@slate.mines.colorado.edu (NICHOLS TERRY L )
Subject: FrameMaker ver 3.0 for sale
Message-ID: <1994Apr7.150800.69409@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 15:08:00 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
FrameMaker ver 3.0 for sale, single user license,
all documentation and disks. I checked it out
with FM and they said no problem transferring
the license. Regular price $795, asking $450.
If interested in this wonderful document preparation
system or if you desire more information, contact:
nichols@src.usbm.gov
ps, I am selling FM because I am now using HP.
From: philipp@enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Making Sounds (from a CD Player)
Date: 7 Apr 1994 17:13:52 +0200
Organization: Telecom Paris (ENST), France
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2o17vg$fo9@hydre.enst.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Summary: sound, CD-DA, api
I'm working on a CD Player application that works with the Toshiba XM-3401
drive (which about half of the OEM market uses) and provides sound out
via the Sound card, not the crappy little DAC on the drive...
Being a relatively new NeXT programmer, I'm a bit dazzled by all the
different interfaces to the Sound hardware:
NXSoundDevice / NXSoundStream (NXPlayStream, NXRecordStream)
objects
Sound object
snddriver_() C functions
I'm a bit lost as to which interface best suits my needs. I need
something that doesn't use a lot of CPU to process a constant
44.1K Hz stereo data stream, and I need low latency for doing things
like suspending ("pause"), aborting ("stop"), etc.
Lastly, one of these APIs, the NXSoundStream, seems to allow sharing
of the sound out resource, so that the "bell" may continue to work
while the application is running. This could be considered a win, I
suppose.
Anyone like to share their opinion with me on the choice of API?
Thanks,
-Philip
P.S. Please reply directly unless you think this can interest
the list in general...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: DevMan (Re: project management software, native NS PD or shareware apps?
Message-ID: <1994Apr5.232228.9403@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <1994Apr4.085957.6606@proximus.north.de>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 23:22:28 GMT
Anyone interested in Project Management software should check out VNP
Software's DevMan. It's fairly comprehensive and at an affordable
price. Contact info@vnp.com for more information.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <1994Apr4.085957.6606@proximus.north.de>
gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote:
> [...]
> > or I'd forget to run "make ckin" before trying to check in nibs
whose CVS
> > directories had been removed (as I recently found out, this can be
handled
> > by CVS by adding an entry in commitinfo, but I degress).
> [...]
>
> Another way for (3.x) is to use the CVS.palette.
>
> Anyhow, something like "nscvs" would be the best solution. cvs IS
quite
> a bit of work to understand, and you have to remember during
work a
> lot of administrating things, as Art described.
>
> Gerhard.
>
> --
> +--< principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP key available on
request >--+
> N Gerhard Moeller, Teichstr. 12, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*:
02/21/1968] N
> e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice):
+49-441-75520 e
> X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
NeXTmail X
> T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer
encouraged! T
> +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group:
NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: me@vigor.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Simple image manipulation App for NSI 3.2?
Date: 6 Apr 1994 06:39:53 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ntlfp$38s@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I'm looking for something (free) that is roughly analogous to Dave
Bradley's xv program under X. I need to be able to resize images,
and play around with their color maps. Any tips appreciated.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: QWK offline reader for NeXT
Message-ID: <Cnt56D.KF@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <2ndhgk$njs@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 22:30:13 GMT
In article <2ndhgk$njs@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com> bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz) writes:
> Does anyone have a QWK offline news reader for the NeXT??
What is QWK?
I had a similar problem some time ago. I managed to write a simple perl script which hacked the
batch from the bbs into a format convenient for NewsGrazer which I find convenient enough.
No need to reinvent the wheel.
Juergen
---
Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok )
Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
== The revolution will not be televised - GilScottHeron 1970 ==
== The revolution will not be posted - Juergen 1994 ==
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep Ports
Date: 6 Apr 1994 09:00:49 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2ntto1$8vc@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2nnjgd$h6t@access1.digex.net> <2nqn5m$t74@nic-nac.CSU.net> <2nr8d0$m9s@portal.gmu.edu>
In article <2nr8d0$m9s@portal.gmu.edu> skahng@mason1.gmu.edu
(Soonam Kahng) writes:
> Really? can you tell me your info. source?
NeXT.
> Are they under going development? or already exist?
Already exist.
> Finally, have you seen these? :)
These are not products you can order. Whether this changes in
the future is a marketing decision, not a technical one.
-=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Basic SCSI Specification Online Anywhere?
Date: 6 Apr 1994 09:07:36 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2ntu4o$95q@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <1994Apr5.190759.13223@sol.UVic.CA>
Yes; see the comp.periphs.scsi FAQ articles.
-=EPS=-
From: paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with undefined symbols when using the POSIX option
Date: 6 Apr 1994 09:02:03 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2nttqb$1hnv@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Keywords: POSIX, undefined symbols
Hi,
I have a problem with an application that I want to port to the NeXT.
The program is written in a POSIX compliant manner and compiles without
problems on the NeXT (with -posix specified) but when I want to link
it I get the following undefined symbols:
ld: Undefined symbols:
_objc_msgSend
_NXGetDefaultValue
_NXRegisterDefaults
objc_class_name_NXStringTable
objc_class_name_NXBundle
I have tracked down the problem to the following little test programs:
/*--- posix_test_1.c --------*/
#include <stdio.h>
#include <time.h>
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
time_t clock = time((time_t *) NULL);
static char date[9];
(void) strftime(date, (size_t)sizeof(date), "%y/%m/%d",
localtime(&clock));
printf("Today is : %s\n",date);
}
/*------ posix_test_2.c ---------*/
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <locale.h>
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
if (setlocale(LC_ALL, "") == (char *)NULL) {
printf("Cannot set LC_ALL locale; check environment\n");
} else {
printf("Setting LC_ALL locale ok\n");
};
}
When I compile these with
cc posix_test_1.c -o test
everything is fine, but if I use
cc -posix posix_test_1.c -o test
I get the above mentioned undefined symbols.
The critical functions that I have found are strftime() and setlocale().
Maybe there are more.
Does anybody have a suggestion how to work arround this problem or
even better how to fix it?
Thanks
Michael
--
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|Dipl.-Ing. Michael Paus |
|University of Stuttgart, Inst. of Flight Mechanics and Flight Control |
|Forststrasse 86, 70176 Stuttgart, Germany |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|Phone: (+49) 711-121-1434 FAX: (+49) 711-634856 |
|Email: Michael.Paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (NeXT-Mail welcome)|
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet access from home
Date: 7 Apr 1994 16:57:55 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2o1ai3$7to@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com> <Cnw6IJ.A2q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com> conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark
>Conway) writes:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just moved the NeXT from work to home, so I would like
>> recommendations on the best commercial Internet providers
>> in terms of Usenet, FTP, E-mail, and other tools such as
>> Mosaic, Web, etc. What is your setup, and whom do you
>> recommend?
>>
>> Thanks - Mark
>
>I would also be interested in that information. Having just
>bought a house with an office in it I'm hoping to do more
>work there than, well, at work.
>
>If you would post a summary, Mark, I'd be much obliged.
>
>Gracias.
>--
>
>Jon Haveman
>Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
>Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
>Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
>W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
This is not a flame, but you might getting better information based on
your location in one of the internet groups.
Try asking in....
alt.internet.access.wanted
Good luck.
--
"C++ is the best C++ there is."
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS/FIP 3.2 can't read Mac disk.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 6 Apr 1994 11:45:30 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2nu7cq$f3g@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <2nr1bs$k5i@news.iastate.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Chris Wong (chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu) wrote:
: How on the earth can I get NS/FIP 3.2 to read Mac disks?
: Please help.
: It reads the Mac disks formatted by itself. But, it can't read the Mac
: disks formatter by a Mac.
Is it possible that the Mac disks formatted by the Mac are not formatted
high density? I.e., if the Mac does not have a HDSD floppy drive then
it will format HD disks as DD disks (800K instead of 1.44M). Other then
this, you should have no trouble reading Mac formatted disks on an NSI 3.2
machine.
--
Christian Smith
aka Blackplague
PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Funny NewsGrazer bug
Message-ID: <1994Apr7.182744.1689@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 18:27:44 GMT
When I have an open mail window in Mail.app (a message I am composing) and
I press Reply in NG, I get a new empty compose window and all my stuff in
the orignal compose window has been replaced by the stuff from NG. Only
the formatting (bold etc) is still intact.
Funny.
So, no more replies from NG while a mail compose window is open.
BTW this is NG patchlevel 72 (75 does not work on my system)
--
gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: borchers@raccoon.llnl.gov (Robert R. Borchers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb - Audio
Date: 6 Apr 1994 16:16:52 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, NCD
Message-ID: <2nun9k$d3l@lll-winken.llnl.gov>
Keywords: WWW, Audio, AIFF
I have Omniweb working fine, but I cannot play audio files, They come
across into /tmp just fine, but have an aiff extension. Is there a
converter to .snd anywhere, or a player for aiff. Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: glocker@sirius.com (Andreas Glocker)
Subject: Re: What's a good checkbook accounting program?
Sender: news@pcnntp.apple.com
Message-ID: <glocker-060494093249@17.220.88.99>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:32:49 GMT
References: <2nl7jd$kh1@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
Organization: Sirius Solutions, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
In article <2nl7jd$kh1@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu
(Glenn Brown) wrote:
> Subject sez it all.
> Thanks,
> --Glenn
ACCOUNTING Software for NeXTSTEP 3.0 & 3.1 (Intel & NeXT)
Sirius Solutions, Inc.
e-mail: checksum@sirius.com
CheckSum(tm) is a financial management system designed and marketed by
Sirius Solutions.
- Specially Designed for Personal and Small Business Use.
- Generates Balance Sheets and Income Statements.
- Features RTF and ASCII Cut & Paste Reporting
Precision.
- Consolidates Accounts.
--
Sirius Solutions, Inc.
San Francisco, California
NEXTSTEP and Newton Software Solutions
vox: 415 957-9044
info@sirius.com (NeXTMAIL welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: Basic SCSI Specification Online Anywhere?
Message-ID: <1994Apr5.190759.13223@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: gtoews@ugly.uvic.ca
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 19:07:59 GMT
I want to do some very basic SCSI programming, mainly the
SCSI Inquiry command but I don't want the hassle of trying to
order it from ANSI or Global Engineering Documents.
Is the specification online anywhere on the net or compuserve
or can someone send me the complete description of the Inquiry
command. Thanks for any help.
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet access from home
Date: 7 Apr 1994 17:29:11 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2o1tv7$qo9@acme.gatech.edu>
References: <Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com> <Cnw6IJ.A2q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <2o1ai3$7to@steffi.demon.co.uk>
robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>This is not a flame, but you might getting better information based on
>your location in one of the internet groups.
>Try asking in....
>alt.internet.access.wanted
Also not a flame: not everyone on the net has access to alt.* groups.
Before suggesting someone move their thread to an alt group, you
should find out if they have access to them. If you don't want to
take the time to do that, then it's prolly best not to bring it up
as a post, but rather as a mail reply.
--
John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu)
===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
To me, boxing is like ballet..except there's not music, no choreography,
and the dancers hit eachother.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jalegre@ware.com (John Alegre)
Subject: Data Encryption Software
Message-ID: <CnwGCL.35q@ware.com>
Organization: wARE, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 17:24:20 GMT
We are looking for some data encryption software that will run on
NeXT. Most likely anything that runs on Berkeley UNIX 4.3 or 4.2 can
be made to work. Our needs are password protection and possibly
encryption tied to the password so it would be impossible to
translate even for the best hacker.
All suggestions welcome.
---
John N. Alegre
Andante Systems
#############################################################
# NeXTMail preferred. |
# jdev@andante.mn.org |
# alegrej@andante.mn.org | If you plant ice,
# jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | you're gonna harvest wind!
# jalegre@ware.com | Hunter/Garcia
#############################################################
--
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Euler Solutions
# jalegre@ware.com # Once in a while
####################################################################
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Switching keys around
Date: 7 Apr 1994 22:10:17 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <2o20c9$sbq@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Keywords: Pipe and Backslash
A few weeks ago, somebody told that he had changed some key mappings, so
that Shift-Enter was Pipe, and Shift-Backspace was Backslash. I cannot
find this article, but since I now have a new-style keyboard (and I've
used an IBM-style keyboard forever) I'd really like to know how to
change these around.
Thanks.
Daniel
--
Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu
Daniel_LHommedieu@nest.catt.ncsu.edu
eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ron@nosc.mil (Ron Broersma)
Subject: Re: Clarifying problem with Omniweb
Message-ID: <1994Apr8.005406.18944@nosc.mil>
Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News)
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA
References: <1994Apr7.103806.20612@news.research.ptt.nl>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:54:06 GMT
> Be careful where you put the Apps. I had the same problem and solved the
> problems you mentioned by putting OmniWeb and OmniImage in ~/Apps and
> OmniImageFilter in ~/Library/Services. Logout and login and things worked
> in my case
>
> Arnaud (A.Leene@research.ptt.nl)
I was helping someone else with this problem (OmniImageFilter not getting
registered as a server) and in this case found that their
OmniImageFilter.service/services file was not readable by the user. In the
process of installing it, they had it owned by root and only readable by owner.
This happens because the original modes on the file are 640 (as stored in the
tar file) and if you copy OmniImageFilter.service as root, then the services
file will be unreadable by joe user. It would help a lot if the Omni folks
would change the mode in their tar file so this doesn't bite others.
--Ron
From: mallen@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Date: 8 Apr 1994 04:46:48 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2o2njo$cqr@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Hi. I am wondering if some person out there had a little program to cause the
optical disk or the floppy disk to eject, without having to break into the
monitor to do it.
Or, on the alternative, is there someway I can force the disk out by brute
programming power?
--
mallen@nwu.edu (NeXTMail welcome)
"The art of making yourself rich is necessarily the
art of making your neighbor poor." -- John Ruskin
finger mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu for PGP public key
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet access from home
Date: 8 Apr 1994 03:47:51 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2o2k57$e2f@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com>
In article <Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com> conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark
Conway) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just moved the NeXT from work to home, so I would like
> recommendations on the best commercial Internet providers
> in terms of Usenet, FTP, E-mail, and other tools such as
> Mosaic, Web, etc. What is your setup, and whom do you
> recommend?
>
> Thanks - Mark
Your To: address field [To: conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark Conway)]
yielded the following error on my mailer:
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550 bnk014.enet.dec.com (tcp)... 550 Host unknown
554 <conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com>... 550 Host unknown (Domain exists but data is
missing or dangling)
(Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com doesn't work either...)
So I'll post here:
First you will likely want to obtain SLIP (TransSys DIALUPIP highly
recommended on black; TransSys PNI for white).
If you are still with Digital, I'm sure they have the where-with-all
to provide a slip-server at your workplace - someone, perhaps you :-)
could champion that idea. A modem - slip link on your office machine
is by far the best way to go. Even better if there is another NeXT in
the workplace - piece of cake with Mamakos' dialupip product, and free -
available on cs.orst.edu
I've been using it since it came out in 1992, and currently provide
SLIP for up to 10 clients per slip-configured machine.
If you are now independent, check the net.
Merit Network Information Center Services provides worldwide lists
of service providers, by anonymous ftp at:
FTP.MERIT.EDU
in dir:
providers/ Lists of organizations that can provide access
to the Internet.
Cheers,
--
James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab
Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,sysadmin
Subject: SoftPC lacks of windows fonts
Date: 8 Apr 1994 04:53:04 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <2o2nvg$693@news.iastate.edu>
When I try to install a OEM driver that come with my Dell JAW system to
SoftPC Windows full screen mode. SoftPC ask for windows disks!!! What's
the point to buy a Windows emulation software and be be ask to insert a
diskette from MicroSoft.... Gee....
Anybody know any workaround besides of buying a copy of Windows.
Any public domain equivalent windows fonts? Like the CGA something...
Thanks for any info...
--
Chris Wong
chris@iastate.edu
Iowa State University
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet access from home
Date: 8 Apr 1994 00:54:32 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2o26fo$1v6@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <Cnw44x.6BF@ryn.mro.dec.com> <Cnw6IJ.A2q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <2o1ai3$7to@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2o1tv7$qo9@acme.gatech.edu>
gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
> >This is not a flame, but you might getting better information based on
> >your location in one of the internet groups.
> >Try asking in....
> >alt.internet.access.wanted
>
> Also not a flame: not everyone on the net has access to alt.* groups.
> Before suggesting someone move their thread to an alt group, you
> should find out if they have access to them. If you don't want to
> take the time to do that, then it's prolly best not to bring it up
> as a post, but rather as a mail reply.
>--
>John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu)
>===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
> To me, boxing is like ballet..except there's not music, no choreography,
> and the dancers hit eachother.
I simply suggested to the original poster than he may get a more
informative response by posting to that other group. It was not
implied in that that he should cancel his message to next-software. I
was trying to point him in the right direction. Also, Mark Conway too
wanted some assistance.
--
"C++ is the best C++ there is."
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: toon@omnigroup.com (Greg Titus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Clarifying problem with Omniweb
Date: 8 Apr 1994 07:08:28 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2o2vtc$s13@fungusaur.wizards.com>
References: <1994Apr8.005406.18944@nosc.mil>
Ron Broersma writes
> I was helping someone else with this problem (OmniImageFilter not
getting
> registered as a server) and in this case found that their
> OmniImageFilter.service/services file was not readable by the user.
In the
> process of installing it, they had it owned by root and only readable
by owner.
> This happens because the original modes on the file are 640 (as
stored in the
> tar file) and if you copy OmniImageFilter.service as root, then the
services
> file will be unreadable by joe user. It would help a lot if the Omni
folks
> would change the mode in their tar file so this doesn't bite others.
>
> --Ron
Thanks for finding this. I just replaced OmniImageFilter.service.tar.gz
with a copy that had the permissions set correctly for the Services and
README file.
--Greg
------------------
Greg Titus
toon@omnigroup.com
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,sysadmin
Subject: Re: SoftPC lacks of windows fonts
Date: 8 Apr 94 10:20:40 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.765800440@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <2o2nvg$693@news.iastate.edu>
chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes:
>When I try to install a OEM driver that come with my Dell JAW system to
>SoftPC Windows full screen mode. SoftPC ask for windows disks!!! What's
>the point to buy a Windows emulation software and be be ask to insert a
>diskette from MicroSoft.... Gee....
>Anybody know any workaround besides of buying a copy of Windows.
I think all files which are required can be found in the Windows subdir
within SoftPC.app. Maybe it is possible to redirect the disk request
to this directory? Just a wild guess.
Regards,
Markus.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bennett@infoman.com
Subject: Re: Switching between applications?
Message-ID: <1994Apr8.135952.6402@infoman.com>
Sender: root@infoman.com (Operator)
Organization: Information Management Inc.
References: <9404040336.AA16845@alleg.EDU>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:59:52 GMT
Another way to select apps is to open the "Process" window
from the workspace. In "Applications" mode you can see a
list of applications that are running. You can select an application
from the list and press the "Kill" button to kill or, OR
CLICK THE ICON FOR THE APPLICATION and it will become active!!
-Jon
From: rao@daftar.ucsd.edu (Ramesh Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sound support in OmniWeb
Date: 8 Apr 1994 15:52:49 GMT
Organization: UCSD SOE
Message-ID: <2o3ukh$qal@deadmin.ucsd.edu>
The Readme file at ftp.omnigroup.com mentions that OmniWeb
Implements lots of features
found in other browsers including all the standard text formatting,
link types (http, images, ftp, gopher, sounds)
I have yet to get the sound part to work on my 040 NeXTstaion under 3.2.
What do I need to do?
Thanks in advance
-ramesh rao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Switching between applications?
Message-ID: <Cny71E.Asr@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <1994Apr8.135952.6402@infoman.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:58:25 GMT
In article <1994Apr8.135952.6402@infoman.com> bennett@infoman.com writes:
>>
>>Another way to select apps is to open the "Process" window
>>from the workspace. In "Applications" mode you can see a
>>list of applications that are running. You can select an application
>>from the list and press the "Kill" button to kill or, OR
>>CLICK THE ICON FOR THE APPLICATION and it will become active!!
>>
>>-Jon
Ya' know...that's one of the things I just love about NEXTSTEP. I've been using
it for what...4 years now...and I still keep finding new capabilities!
Way Cool!
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CIM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Date: 8 Apr 1994 11:36:26 GMT
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
Message-ID: <2o3fjq$43o@news1.digex.net>
References: <2o2njo$cqr@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <2o2njo$cqr@news.acns.nwu.edu>
mallen@nwu.edu writes:
> Hi. I am wondering if some person out there had a little program to cause the
> optical disk or the floppy disk to eject, without having to break into the
> monitor to do it.
>
> Or, on the alternative, is there someway I can force the disk out by brute
> programming power?
> --
> mallen@nwu.edu (NeXTMail welcome)
> "The art of making yourself rich is necessarily the
> art of making your neighbor poor." -- John Ruskin
> finger mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu for PGP public key
You should be able to type "disk -e /dev/yourdevice"
- scott
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDPlayer without Public Window Server -- works for me!
Date: 8 Apr 1994 17:31:13 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2o44d1INNj7b@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
I had always thought that this was true, bit I never actually
checked. I upgraded to NS3.2 (non-turbo station) last week and found that
CDPlayer didn't work. So I made the changes necessary, but I wanted to
see if it would work without setting the Public Window Server in
Preferences/Unix. Well, it does! It autolaunches whenever I put in an
audio CD!
I don't know why or how, but maybe there is a way for others to do
this without the security risk of Public Window Server. Or, then again,
maybe I misunderstand. I don't think so, though.
I'd be happy to answer questions about my system if someone wants
to autolaunch CDPlayer.app without setting P.W.S.
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!'
Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Message-ID: <CnyC1q.D1G@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
References: <2o2njo$cqr@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2o3fjq$43o@news1.digex.net>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 17:46:38 GMT
Just place an alias in your .cshrc for like this one. Then source it
or login and logout. All that you need do is type in "eject" once
this is done:
alias eject '/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0b'
You can write a script which will take a device as an arguement if you
have more than one floppy drive.
David
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Date: 8 Apr 1994 13:19:41 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940408191752.695AACUE.malc@jeeves>
> I am thoroughly fed up with Mail.app (yesterday it destroyed my
> several hundred user address file for the second time) and would like
> a replacement that uses all standard mail files, support MIME, etc. I
> had a look at Eloquent (which was advertised here) and it looks quite
> good. It costs $150, though, so I wanted to hear if anyone has
> experience with it, or other suggestions.
>
My advice -- try it! A demo copy is available on an archive (previously
announced), and even when you buy a copy you get 30 day's grace.
I've found it sufficiently useful to buy a copy. The "mere" fact that it can
search through entire mailboxes (*including* the main text of NeXTMail
messages) rather than just the currently selected message makes it
worthwhile...
Automatic sorting (different sounds for different mailboxes RSN), and the fact
that it is both a mail and a news reader etc. are icing on this cake. The way
aliases expand out is kinda cute too.
I haven't got round to using Berkeley-style mailboxes (which allow marking
messages as being unanswered etc) yet: the main disadvantage with them for me
is that you can't search through NeXTMail in them, *in the current version*).
I'm sure others will like in particular the automatic printing mailboxes etc.
Some of it feels a bit quirky (note: after four years of using Mail.app), and
is taking a little getting used to, but I only have minor "quibbles". Most of
the quibbles seem to be being addressed, though -- notice it's up to version
1.01b now; 1.01c is due out soon-ish.
You might care to regard the current release almost as a "fully functional
beta version" -- Take Three seem to be taking customer feedback very seriously
and at a guess are looking for more suggestions(?) e.g. in the last week they
have added automatic archiving (like Mail), and Emacs key-binding.
Main gripes I've come across (not necessarily mine) are that:
- it doesn't do threading (this is being worked on),
- some of the configuration has to be done on a user Preferences basis (again
they seem to be willing to change this to being sysadmin-settable if there's
demand)
- archived mail in the Outgoing mailbox just shows my address as the sender,
rather than the person to whom I sent the mail (as Mail does) -- this is being
considered, but they want to do a "proper" implementation.
I've suggested that they might support Sun-style mail too... I don't know what
the reaction to that is yet!
I'd like to tidy up this post a bit, but am already late for a dinner
appointment...
(I suppose I could just save this post... naaa! :-) )
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Data Encryption Software
Message-ID: <1994Apr8.041358.24211@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <CnwGCL.35q@ware.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 04:13:58 GMT
In article <CnwGCL.35q@ware.com> jalegre@ware.com (John Alegre) writes:
> We are looking for some data encryption software that will run on
> NeXT. Most likely anything that runs on Berkeley UNIX 4.3 or 4.2 can
> be made to work. Our needs are password protection and possibly
> encryption tied to the password so it would be impossible to
> translate even for the best hacker.
>
Take a look at pgp, which even has a decent NeXT services interface
(NXPGP).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Date: 8 Apr 1994 13:23:29 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940408191931.695AACUF.malc@jeeves>
oh yes, I also wish it had an animated app icon...
:-)
HF,
mm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Message-ID: <CnyMIG.1ty@tms-gmbh.de>
Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de
Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <CnyC1q.D1G@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 21:32:40 GMT
In article <CnyC1q.D1G@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David
Bradford) writes:
>
> Just place an alias in your .cshrc for like this one. Then source it
> or login and logout. All that you need do is type in "eject" once
> this is done:
>
> alias eject '/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0b'
>
> You can write a script which will take a device as an arguement if you
> have more than one floppy drive.
>
>
> David
>
>
What about unmounting first?
My suggestion:
alias eject '/usr/etc/umount /dev/fd0a;/usr/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0a'
Gerd
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Date: 8 Apr 1994 19:06:38 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2o49vu$2dk@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <2o2njo$cqr@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <2o2njo$cqr@news.acns.nwu.edu> mallen@nwu.edu writes:
|>Hi. I am wondering if some person out there had a little program to
cause the
|>optical disk or the floppy disk to eject, without having to break into
the
|>monitor to do it.
|>
|>Or, on the alternative, is there someway I can force the disk out by
brute
|>programming power?
|>--
|>mallen@nwu.edu (NeXTMail welcome)
|>"The art of making yourself rich is necessarily the
|> art of making your neighbor poor." -- John Ruskin
|>finger mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu for PGP public key
You can use disk -e /dev/rfd0a to eject an internal floppy (don^t know the
/dev/rxxx for external floppies), and the same thing goes for opticals,
CD-ROMs, Syquests, all you need to do is to replace rfd0a with the right
devicename. If you can^t find that, look in your console, it will tell you
the devicename as it mounts it.
Only one catch, though, you^d have to be a superuser on a normal NeXT
system, as the disk command isn^t available to normal users (unless you
change that).
Ohh, and one more thing, if you don^t know anything about the disk
command, PLEASE GO AND READ THE MAN PAGES, THIS IS A DANGEROUS COMMAND IN
THE WRONG HANDS!!!
Best regards
Michael
---
_____________________________________________
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NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk
NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com
Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC lacks of windows fonts
Message-ID: <2o4q7q$2h2@news.iastate.edu>
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Date: 8 Apr 1994 23:43:54 GMT
References: <next2.765800440@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
In article <next2.765800440@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>:)
>:) I think all files which are required can be found in the Windows
subdir
>:) within SoftPC.app. Maybe it is possible to redirect the disk request
>:) to this directory? Just a wild guess.
Nope. Not all standard files from MickeySoft Windows are in the windows
subdirectory.
We're buying some Windows emulator that require you to buy a copy of
Window.
--
Chris Wong
chris@iastate.edu
Iowa State University
From: tcollins@cisco.com (Tracy Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Setting up www server on a NeXT
Date: 9 Apr 1994 01:21:10 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems
Message-ID: <2o4vu6$1a4@cronkite.cisco.com>
Hello,
Can someone point me at info and/or software so that
I can set up a www (mosaic) server on a (black) NeXT?
thanks
tcollins@cisco.com
From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: PCI bus cards (graphics and SCSI) which work?
Date: 9 Apr 1994 01:34:51 GMT
Organization: Weber State University, Ogden, UT
Message-ID: <2o50ns$gso@u.cc.utah.edu>
References: <michaelv.764537928@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> <DAVEH.94Mar28165649@canopus.commodore.com> <2njpkj$erk@dearg.cuillin.org.uk>
In article <2njpkj$erk@dearg.cuillin.org.uk> guy@dearg.cuillin.org.uk (Guy Dawson) writes:
]The problem with the Diamond cards is Diamonds use of their own clock
]generation chip to generate the timing signals. They won't release any
]details on the chip. So while one can find out about the video chip
]used one still won't know how to set-up the clock generation chip...
The programming details for the varios chips are well known; the problem
is that you have to write a register that sets a PAL, and the PAL sets
the real info. You don't know what's in the PAL, and the PAL can vary
from board to board.
Check out:
The Diamond FAQ (sunsite.unc.edu)
The Diamond XFree86 hacks for Linux (sunsite.unc.edu)
Articles:
=From: joe@apache.dtcc.edu (Joe Brown)
=Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.announce,comp.os.linux.announce,comp.windows.x.i386u
=nix
=Subject: Diamond.FAQ
=Date: 5 Nov 1993 09:22:58 +0200
=Message-ID: <2bcv0i$9up@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
THE FAQ
=Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd
=From: Bruce Wayne
=Subject: How to set the diamond clock ...
=Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1992 17:40:00 GMT
=Message-ID: <4356bw@gotham.city>
HOW TO PROGRAM DIAMOND CLOCKS (WITH CODE)
=Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.unix.bsd
=From: pfk@rz.uni-jena.de (Frank Klemm)
=Subject: ## Info about the Diamond Pixel Clock Synthesizer
=Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 18:55:31 GMT
=Message-ID: <1992Nov02.185531.13576@rz.uni-jena.de>
INFO ON DIAMOND CLOCK DECODE (DETAIL + BITLIST)
=Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.unix.bsd
=From: michael@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Michael Podhorodecki)
=Subject: Re: ## Info about the Diamond Pixel Clock Synthesizer
=Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 10:02:08 GMT
=Message-ID: <1992Nov4.100208.3900@labtam.labtam.oz.au>
MORE INFO ON DIAMOND CLOCKS
These should be on local news archives and on the BSD archive on minnie
(get the BSD FAQ if you don't know who "minnie" is).
From the Diamond FAQ:
=
=Q: What are the different video cards has Diamond Computer Systems
= Inc. produced?
=
= 1. SpeedStar VGA: Tseng(ET4000) chipset and Music DAC
= 2. SpeedStar High Color: Tseng(ET4000) chipset and Sierra DAC
= 3. SpeedStar 24: Tseng(ET4000) chipset and Diamond(SS2410) DAC
= 4. SpeedStar 24X: Western Digital(WD90C31) chipset and Diamond(SS2410) DAC
= 5. Stealth Vram: S3(P86C911) chipset and Diamond(SS2410) DAC
= 6. SpeedStar Pro ISA: Cirrus Logic chipset *
= 7. SpeedStar Pro VLB: Cirrus Logic chipset *
= 8. Stealth 24 ISA: S3(P86C801) chipset and Diamond(SS2410) DAC
= 9. Stealth 24 VLB: S3(P86C805) chipset and Diamond(SS2410) DAC
= 10. Stealth Pro ISA: S3(P86C928) chipset and Diamond(SS2410) DAC
= 11. Stealth Pro VLB: S3(P86C928) chipset and Diamond(SS2410) DAC
= 12. Viper VLB 1/2 MB: Weitek(P9000) chipset and Bt(485KPJ110) DAC
=
=* Cirrus logic chipsets do not use special clock programming. If
= you're still haveing difficulties, try to follow the steps under TRY
= THIS FIRST.
Terry Lambert
terry@cs.weber.edu
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.
From: jin@atlantis.rutgers.edu (Gavin Gim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any German/French/Russian/Japanese dictionary like digital Webster?
Message-ID: <Apr.7.20.03.53.1994.19873@atlantis.rutgers.edu>
Date: 8 Apr 94 00:03:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
After filing my 1993 tax, I decided to spend some money on software.
I'm looking for a dictionary that has english description like
German to English, but it's even better if it has also German to German.
The same applies for French, Russian, and Japanese. I am using
a black hardware running NS3.0. Thanks.
Gavin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
In-Reply-To: mallen@nwu.edu's message of 8 Apr 1994 04:46:48 GMT
To: mallen@nwu.edu
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr8081635@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2o2njo$cqr@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:16:33 GMT
In article <2o2njo$cqr@news.acns.nwu.edu> mallen@nwu.edu writes:
Hi. I am wondering if some person out there had a little program to cause the
optical disk or the floppy disk to eject, without having to break into the
monitor to do it.
Or, on the alternative, is there someway I can force the disk out by brute
programming power?
Read the man pages on fd and sd. A program with the appropriate ioctl
should only be a few lines. Or you could of course always use 'disk -e'.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Looking for eXTRASCAN
Message-ID: <Cnz2KH.CBw@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: Called Goldleaf and they are no longer in Larkspur, CA
Keywords: Scanner Software, Goldleaf
Sender: David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 03:19:29 GMT
There was once a highly rated software product called
eXtrascan by Goldleaf.
What ever happened to it/them? Anybody know?
Please e-mail your responses.
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Message-ID: <1994Apr8.231515.6983@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <940408191752.695AACUE.malc@jeeves>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 23:15:15 GMT
This isn't a criticism of Eloquent, BTW.
In article <940408191752.695AACUE.malc@jeeves> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
(Malcolm Crawford) writes:
> I've found it sufficiently useful to buy a copy. The "mere" fact that
it can
> search through entire mailboxes (*including* the main text of NeXTMail
> messages) rather than just the currently selected message makes it
> worthwhile...
MailSearch does this. Free.
> Automatic sorting (different sounds for different mailboxes RSN), and
the fact
> that it is both a mail and a news reader etc. are icing on this cake.
The way
> aliases expand out is kinda cute too.
Procmail. Also free.
It is nice that Eloquent does these things as well; but my primary concern
with mail (and news) which it doesn't handle is threaded messages.
Paul
--
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Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: unix man additions
Date: 8 Apr 1994 23:35:56 -0700
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920)
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2o5icc$ptr@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
I want to add some unix utilities, like nx_zip and their associated manual
pages. Where do I stick them?
thanks,
Chip
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From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Date: 9 Apr 1994 07:35:38 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940409133418.695AACUG.malc@jeeves>
This isn't a criticism of Paul Lynch, BTW :-)
> In article <940408191752.695AACUE.malc@jeeves> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
> (Malcolm Crawford) writes:
> > I've found it sufficiently useful to buy a copy. The "mere" fact that
> > it can search through entire mailboxes (*including* the main text of
NeXTMail
> > messages) rather than just the currently selected message makes it
> > worthwhile...
>
> MailSearch does this. Free.
>
> > Automatic sorting (different sounds for different mailboxes RSN), and
> > the fact that it is both a mail and a news reader etc. are icing on this
cake.
> > The way aliases expand out is kinda cute too.
>
> Procmail. Also free.
>
Well, OK... if you want to go for that sort of thing I guess you could also
include Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities for auto-compacting, searching through
the tables of contents, composing your mail from the command-line etc. Free.
The problem for me is that installing and getting to grips with all of these
takes time: not vey much, but sufficient that it's worthwhile instead paying
for somebody else to do it in a single unified package that does it all a bit
more elegantly (or at least in a NeXT way :-) ) with a couple of extras thrown
in (multiple .sigs on a pull-down menu is another example -- saves me a lot of
typing, and so reduces RSI :-( , and MIME compatibility of course) and the
promise of threading in the future.
It's a bit like decorating -- yeah, I can do (have done) it myself, but
occasionally I'd just rather pay for somebody else do the ceiling for me. :-)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...(NOT) NOT!!
Message-ID: <Cnxzp6.1Cx@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <2o06kj$3jb@news.csus.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:19:53 GMT
In article <2o06kj$3jb@news.csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
> Intuitive Systems has earned a distinguished place high on our
> "Companies NEVER to do business with" list, due in no small part
> to repeated bombardment with unwanted electronic junk mail, which
> did not stop despite repeated pleas that they cease and desist.
>
> If you're looking for a commercially supported product, consider
> either Pencom's co-Xist or White Pine's eXodus. Both of these
> companies conduct themselves responsibly and professionally.
>
> Please do not respond to Mr. de la Tribouille--you ignore this
> advice at your own peril!
>
> -=EPS=-
Gee, I have CubX and I'm very happy with it. I've never had any problems with
Intuitive Systems mail-bombing me ( I did get an announcement when they moved,
which I appreciated receiving), and Mr. de la Tribouille was very helpful in
expediting my order. They make bug fixes available by ftp ( though I haven't
really encountered any problems w/ the software, it just works.) I have had
no problems w/ the company.
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
--
-Michael
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for eXTRASCAN
Date: 9 Apr 1994 13:03:24 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2o692s$c2f@inxs.concert.net>
References: <Cnz2KH.CBw@ucdavis.edu>
In article <Cnz2KH.CBw@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
writes:
>
>
> There was once a highly rated software product called
> eXtrascan by Goldleaf.
>
-- try john@goldleaf.com or lauren@goldleaf.com, or info@goldleaf.com
Dave
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From: danders@carn3.alleg.edu (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: histograms, stem and leaf plots, etc?
Date: 9 Apr 1994 12:34:28 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <2o67ck$9p6@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <1994Apr7.000539.13238@news.yale.edu>
In article <1994Apr7.000539.13238@news.yale.edu> anand@denys.yale.edu
(Anand R. Mehta) writes:
> Is there software around that does any of this? Of course, a NeXTstep
> interface would be preferred, but I'm not in a position to argue :-)
>
Some of the items that you want are currently available from Allegheny
College (ftp.alleg.edu) with a NeXTSTEP interface. StatTools, which works
from Workbench, includes both bar charts and histograms as well as many
conventional statistical routines (t test, etc.). A box and whisker
routine is under development and stem and leaf plots will be added this
summer.
David Anderson
danders@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: unix man additions
Message-ID: <Co058n.24o@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <2o5icc$ptr@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 17:14:46 GMT
Chip Sieglinger writes
> I want to add some unix utilities, like nx_zip and their associated manual
> pages. Where do I stick them?
put user visible executables (commands) in
/usr/local/bin
put associated man pages in
/usr/local/man/man1
/usr/local/man/man3
etc
you can use
/usr/local/lib for Unix libraries, executables not meant to be user visible
/usr/local/info for GNU info stuff
/usr/local/etc for admin stuff
avoid modifying the standard release /usr/bin, /bin, /man etc when possible
dont forget to make sure PATH and MANPATH are set accordingly.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteNow questions
Date: 9 Apr 1994 19:46:55 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2o70nfINN5u0@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
I have some old WriteNow files, but no longer have WriteNow. It
was bundled with my NS2.1 station, but I didn't purchase it when it was
unbundled. Am I still legally allowed to use WriteNow? Will it run in
NS3.2?
If I don't use WriteNow, then how can I use the .wn files? Is
there a way to convert them to .rtfd, for example?
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Message-ID: <1994Apr9.191606.9141@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <940409133418.695AACUG.malc@jeeves>
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 19:16:06 GMT
In article <940409133418.695AACUG.malc@jeeves> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
(Malcolm Crawford) writes:
[polite crap removed]
> > > I've found it sufficiently useful to buy a copy. The "mere" fact
that
> > > it can search through entire mailboxes (*including* the main text of
> NeXTMail
> > > messages) rather than just the currently selected message makes it
> > > worthwhile...
> >
> > MailSearch does this. Free.
> >
> > > Automatic sorting (different sounds for different mailboxes RSN),
and
> > > the fact that it is both a mail and a news reader etc. are icing on
this
> cake.
> > > The way aliases expand out is kinda cute too.
> >
> > Procmail. Also free.
> >
> Well, OK... if you want to go for that sort of thing I guess you could
also
> include Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities for auto-compacting, searching
through
> the tables of contents, composing your mail from the command-line etc.
Free.
> The problem for me is that installing and getting to grips with all of
these
> takes time: not vey much, but sufficient that it's worthwhile instead
paying
> for somebody else to do it in a single unified package that does it all
a bit
> more elegantly (or at least in a NeXT way :-) ) with a couple of extras
thrown
> in (multiple .sigs on a pull-down menu is another example -- saves me a
lot of
> typing, and so reduces RSI :-( , and MIME compatibility of course) and
the
> promise of threading in the future.
You can do all the sig stuff with Terminal Services (free) or
TickleServices (not free); and of course you use mailapp utilities with
procmail, unless you already wrote your own :-).
I feel slightly uncomfortable when the best features someone wants to
suggest for a commercial product are those that are already available from
very widely used free or PD sources. Surely Eloquent is better than that?
I expect I'll find some reasons when I take a better look at it. BTW,
installing Eloquent also takes time, it doesn't just plug and play.
Paul
--
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P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: unix man additions
Message-ID: <1994Apr9.193036.9219@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2o5icc$ptr@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 19:30:36 GMT
In article <2o5icc$ptr@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip
Sieglinger) writes:
> I want to add some unix utilities, like nx_zip and their associated
manual
> pages. Where do I stick them?
It's up to you, really. Utilities I normally put in /usr/local/bin (or
sometimes in ~/Unix/bin), and their man pages in /usr/local/man/man[1..9].
I also use a Terminal service with them, the command line part is:
/usr/bin/tbl %s | /usr/bin/eqn | ptroff -t -man | /usr/bin/open
(accepts files, discard output, Fast C Shell).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep Ports
Date: 9 Apr 1994 20:21:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2o72o7$8mo@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2nqn5m$t74@nic-nac.CSU.net>
In article <2nqn5m$t74@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
[munch]
> Once NeXT releases NEXTSTEP for hppa, HP is promised a period
> (at least 30 days) during which NeXT will not release software
> for any competing platforms.
> -=EPS=-
> --
--
Ummm, is that particularly wise? =-/
I thought the whole point of porting NeXTstep was to boost sales by
increasing NeXTstep's hardware base.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jessica L. Mosher
Mills College
Oakland, CA USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Message-ID: <Co0FwG.1GB@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
References: <940409133418.695AACUG.malc@jeeves> <1994Apr9.191606.9141@seer.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 21:05:03 GMT
In article <1994Apr9.191606.9141@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk writes:
>In article <940409133418.695AACUG.malc@jeeves> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
>(Malcolm Crawford) writes:
>[polite crap removed]
>> > > I've found it sufficiently useful to buy a copy. The "mere" fact
>that
>> > > it can search through entire mailboxes (*including* the main text of
>> NeXTMail
>> > > messages) rather than just the currently selected message makes it
>> > > worthwhile...
>> >
>> > MailSearch does this. Free.
>> >
>> > > Automatic sorting (different sounds for different mailboxes RSN),
>and
>> > > the fact that it is both a mail and a news reader etc. are icing on
>this
>> cake.
>> > > The way aliases expand out is kinda cute too.
>> >
>> > Procmail. Also free.
>> >
>> Well, OK... if you want to go for that sort of thing I guess you could
>also
>> include Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities for auto-compacting, searching
>through
>> the tables of contents, composing your mail from the command-line etc.
>Free.
>> The problem for me is that installing and getting to grips with all of
>these
>> takes time: not vey much, but sufficient that it's worthwhile instead
>paying
>> for somebody else to do it in a single unified package that does it all
>a bit
>> more elegantly (or at least in a NeXT way :-) ) with a couple of extras
>thrown
>> in (multiple .sigs on a pull-down menu is another example -- saves me a
>lot of
>> typing, and so reduces RSI :-( , and MIME compatibility of course) and
>the
>> promise of threading in the future.
>
>You can do all the sig stuff with Terminal Services (free) or
>TickleServices (not free); and of course you use mailapp utilities with
>procmail, unless you already wrote your own :-).
>
>I feel slightly uncomfortable when the best features someone wants to
>suggest for a commercial product are those that are already available from
>very widely used free or PD sources. Surely Eloquent is better than that?
True, but Eloquent is much *simpler* than procmail, Terminal Services,
etc. Remember, not everyone using the product is going to be a UNIX wiz
or want to deal with procmail scripts, etc. He/She might just want to
click a button and have mail automatically sorted into various mailboxes;
another click or two and Eloquent replies to the messages automatically.
And with all the shareware/PD adds, you have much more to deal with.
Eloquent is a concise packages. And it supports MIME!
>I expect I'll find some reasons when I take a better look at it. BTW,
>installing Eloquent also takes time, it doesn't just plug and play.
I've never had a problem installing it. What kinds of trouble have you had?
I've been beta testing it since last November and it has always installed
without any trouble.
>Paul
>
>--
>Paul Lynch
>P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
>Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
>Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
-Rob Wyatt
rawyatt@csn.org (TEXT ONLY!!!)
rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: ek798@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matt Behrens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for a diesant editor for use with Mach
Date: 9 Apr 1994 21:59:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2o78ga$d60@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello all, I am a relatively new NeXT user and am curious if
anyone has any idea whereabouts I can find a *GOOD* text editor
that will run off from Mach (specifically, one I can use to dial
up the NeXT at my college and use over the phone.) It doesn't
have to be fancy, it just can't be VI! :)
So if you know any FTP servers which would carry this and have
a filename for me, I would be forever in your debt. Please
reply via email.
Thanks in advance,
Matt
--
From: gfin@loa.psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GatorFTP 1.4 bug
Date: 9 Apr 1994 20:29:24 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2o7374$9qa@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I've just started running a white NeXT at home, and among
the little glitches that need fixing is one with version 1.4
of GatorFTP.app. Although this program runs fine on my black
Turbo at work, on my 486 at home it crashes every time I try to
acquire a file with the Get button. I can log onto anon ftp
sites and look around, but every time I click Get it dies just
after switching to the progress monitor (piechart) display of
the file transfer status. This message shows in the console
error log:
GatorFTP[280]: Assertion failed: Unlocking Focus on wrong View
I tried installing a fresh copy of the program from the .tar.Z
on cs.orst.edu, but the problems remains. If anyone has an idea
about how I can fix/work around this problem, I'd be glad to
hear about it.
System details: 486DX/2, 20 MB Ram, 400 MB IDE, #9GXE VLB video.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
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From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1994Apr7.201726.1989@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de
Organization: Westwerk
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 20:17:26 GMT
In article <1508@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
writes:
> Michael Burgstahler writes
>
> > Illustrator (especially the new 5.0) still hasn't learned to get rid of
> > those FUCKING dialogs, but flashes users with oh-so-nice gradients and
> > automatic filters, which only brain-dead "designers" will use !
>
> > Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS !
>
>
> How old are you? Illustrator and Freehand are both very professional
> products with sophisticated features, and lots of professional
> designers get work done with both of them. You really don't impress
> anyone, except perhaps yourself, with this kind of ranting on the net.
>
> Although I do have to concede that I was in Fry's Electronics the
> other night and there were two people trying to decide whether to
> buy Illustrator or Freehand. One of them said, "but I read on the net
> that Freehand rules and Illustrator SUCKS!" and it really seemed to
> sway the buying decision.
Sorry about those open words, but that time is felt really provocated by the
silly Illu/Virty-comparison in the previous posting. I'm getting angry when
people talk to a large audience about the quality of software and apparently
haven't done an intensive and fair comparison. Unfortunately one can see the
results of such disinformation in our computer world today. I think, this was
and still is one of the fundamentals of the DOS/WIN-success: Alternatives (e.g.
NEXTSTEP) are not discussed seriously and decisions are made with lacking
knowledge of disadvantages.
I'm doing business using graphics software for several years and have laid my
hand on many apps on different platforms. I've given courses for graphics
software as well. Illustrator and Freehand/Virtuoso were my tools for numerous
productions of brochures, folders, ads, presentations, etc. I used both on
MacIntosh and NEXTSTEP under the pressure of short deadlines, limited budget
and customers demands. In the end I have learned to evaluate the basic approach
of Freehand/Virtuoso much more than the (IMHO few) better functions of
Illustrator. Until Illu5.0 you couldn't have layers - what a mess!
Another problem lies in the professional use of apps like Illustrator and
Freehand. Since the dawn of DTP/PostScript you can create templates for
professional printing with only an affordable computer - and without
professional knowledge of design, typo & production. The stunning results are
visible everwhere and everyday in printed matter: Try to spot the used graphics
software in an advertising. You can easily identify special functions of
Freehand, CorelDraw, PhotoShop in numerous printings - executed with standard
parameters!
Using all those nice filter functions and built-in 3D-distortions isn't
creative and mostly has nothing to do with the contents/message, which should
be transported to the viewer. Illustrator 5.0 goes the many-nice-filters way
and joins the lots-of-parameters-path, whereas Freehand/Virtuoso is
concentrating on ease-of-use, seamless production and silent flexibility.
Illustrator 5.0 has more features, functions, parameters and panels. But this
is also true for Word, Excel, WordPerfect, 1-2-3 and so on. And all these
latter apps offer things like "Assistants", "OnlineGuides", "Tutors" to explain
the growing universe of menu cells.
When you're doing business in graphic design honestly, you shouldn't be aware
of using a special graphics software. It should feel as natural as a pencil -
and this is IMHO definitely more fulfilled by Freehand/Virtuoso than by
Illustrator.
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******************************************
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mburg@westwerk.cube.de (NeXTmail welcome)
University of Stuttgart
2nd. Dpt. of Theoretical Physics
Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
Forststrasse 163/1
70193 Stuttgart
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University of Stuttgart
2nd. Dpt. of Theoretical Physics
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From: thewoz!lagerhead!bob@netcom.com (Bob Jones)
Message-ID: <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead>
Subject: Building Swapdisk
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:01:05 -0400
id AA26617; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:35:55 -0700
id UAA29315; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 20:35:24 -0700
id AA10216; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:24:03 -0400
id AA00470; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:01:05 -0400
I recently added a large external drive to my slab and I am trying to figure out how to use
the 105 internal for a swap disk. Changing the default file location in /etc/swaptab didn't
seem to work - the system hung on reboot. Librarian say to use BuildDisk and it will tell by
the size that you want this to be a swapdisk, however I think that is something left over
from the old days with the cubes and their 40mb swapdisks.
If someone could point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. TIA
-Bob (bob@id.com)
NeXTmail gladly accepted :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Network clipboard to share files with Windows?
Message-ID: <westesCo0zF6.AHr@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 04:06:41 GMT
I'm wondering if anyone has devised a network clipboard that would
let the user share text and graphics between NeXTSTEP and Windows
for Workgroups. A tool that tied into the Windows for Workgroups
network clipboard would be even better.
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Date: 10 Apr 94 05:50:26 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.765957026@uiuc.edu>
References: <940409133418.695AACUG.malc@jeeves> <1994Apr9.191606.9141@seer.demon.co.uk> <Co0FwG.1GB@csn.org>
Gee, what happened to the reponse thread that goes something like:
"...but business users want everything easy to use and easy to
install. Expecting them to go out and get stuff off the net is not
what they're after." followed by, "...but any Unix network (or any NS
network) probably has an administrator who (if competant) should be
well-versed in how to get things from FTP sites, compile and install
them..."?
This is very similar to what happened with the announcement of
Newsgrazer Pro.
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From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...(NOT) NOT!!
Date: 9 Apr 1994 23:33:37 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2o7e0h$blm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <Cnxzp6.1Cx@moksha.uucp>
Michael Branton writes
> Gee, I have CubX and I'm very happy with it. I've never had any
> problems with Intuitive Systems mail-bombing me
Same here. Cub'X has been a trouble-free product for us.
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From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: WriteNow questions
Message-ID: <1994Apr10.101406.16159@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <2o70nfINN5u0@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 10:14:06 GMT
statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) writes:
> I have some old WriteNow files, but no longer have WriteNow. It
>was bundled with my NS2.1 station, but I didn't purchase it when it was
>unbundled. Am I still legally allowed to use WriteNow? Will it run in
>NS3.2?
Yes, ofcourse you are still allowed to use it. You BOUGHT it once. It
still runs on NS3.0, so I figure (but I'm not sure) that it will run
on NS3.2 too.
Willem
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: unix man additions
In-Reply-To: alex@cs.umd.edu's message of Sat, 9 Apr 1994 17:14:46 GMT
To: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr9195335@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2o5icc$ptr@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> <Co058n.24o@genoa.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:53:35 GMT
In article <Co058n.24o@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
Chip Sieglinger writes
> I want to add some unix utilities, like nx_zip and their associated manual
> pages. Where do I stick them?
put user visible executables (commands) in
/usr/local/bin
put associated man pages in
/usr/local/man/man1
/usr/local/man/man3
etc
you can use
/usr/local/lib for Unix libraries, executables not meant to be user visible
/usr/local/info for GNU info stuff
/usr/local/etc for admin stuff
avoid modifying the standard release /usr/bin, /bin, /man etc when possible
dont forget to make sure PATH and MANPATH are set accordingly.
Hear, hear !
And don't forget to make /usr/local/include a link to
/LocalDeveloper/Headers. That directory will automatically be
searched when including files in C programs.
Carl Edman
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ** PRESS RELEASE: Sound for NeXTSTEP **
Message-ID: <1994Apr10.121154.22892@dal1>
Date: 10 Apr 94 12:11:54 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
PRESS RELEASE
******************
April 08, 1994
DFG (Digital Function Generator) Software 3.2 for NeXTSTEP Computers
********************************************************************
DFG (Digital Function Generator) Software 3.2 is a powerful tool for
generation of arbitrary sounds and has many applications in the fields
of acoustics, audio, music, psychoacoustics, physics, architecture,
film, audiology, electronics, electroacoustics, mechanics, vibration
measurements and transducer testing.
Since DFG does not use DSP resources (Motorola 56001 chip) and since
it uses only 2 -> 3% of the CPU time, it can run simultaneously with
such applications as the Digital Oscilloscope and Spectrum Analyzer
(both applications are available on NeXT). Therefore, a single NeXT
computer can be used to perform sophisticated tests and experiments,
since it can synthesize and analyze signals at the same time.
DFG_demo.app Version 3.2 is working on all Motorola and Intel - based
NeXTSTEP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* . Soon DFG will
be available also for Sun and HP computers running NeXTSTEP. Intel -
based computers require NeXTSTEP - supported 16 bit D/A convertors to
use DFG software.
DFG_demo.app software is available as DFG_demo.tar.Z file on the
following archive sites:
cs.orst.edu
nova.cc.purdue.edu
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
ftp.next.com
sonata.cc.purdue.edu
For further information about DFG software please contact:
_ _ _ _ _ _
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_ _ _ DIGITAL RECORDINGS - Advanced R & D _ _ _
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From: jk@tools.de (Juergen Keil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any German/French/Russian/Japanese dictionary like digital Webster?
Date: 10 Apr 1994 15:18:46 GMT
Organization: TooLs GmbH, Bonn, Germany
Message-ID: <JK.94Apr10171846@leo.tools.de>
References: <Apr.7.20.03.53.1994.19873@atlantis.rutgers.edu>
In-reply-to: jin@atlantis.rutgers.edu's message of 8 Apr 94 00:03:54 GMT
In article <Apr.7.20.03.53.1994.19873@atlantis.rutgers.edu>
jin@atlantis.rutgers.edu (Gavin Gim) writes:
> After filing my 1993 tax, I decided to spend some money on software.
> I'm looking for a dictionary that has english description like
> German to English, but it's even better if it has also German to German.
> The same applies for French, Russian, and Japanese. I am using
> a black hardware running NS3.0. Thanks.
Yes, if you've got our PaperOut Application, you can use Sony's
`Electronic Book CDs' under Nextstep (More information about PaperOut
is available by email to info@tools.de).
Looking through the catalog of available Electronic Book CDs, the
following EBs might interest you:
========================================
Langenscheidts Taschenwörterbuch English
Subtitle: Langenscheidt's English-German / German-English Dictionary
Publisher: Langenscheidt
Order no.: 3-468-90612-9
Data format: EBG
Price: DM 78,-
Language: English / German
Date published: 91
Description:
Essential for students of these languages, this easy-to-use electronic
version of this popular dicionary contains 120,000 entries with
indications for pronunciation and idiomatic expression.
Category: Dictionary
available from: Langenscheidt KG
========================================
DUDEN - Deutsches Universalwörterbuch A-Z
Subtitle: DUDEN's German Dictionary
Publisher: Bibliographisches Institut
Order no.: 3-411-06991-0
Data format: EBG
Price: DM 98,-
Language: German
Date published: 91
Description:
Over 1,200,000 entries, 150,000 examples, and over 500,000 notes on
spelling, grammar, etymology, pronunciation and style.
Category: Dictionary
available from: Bibliographisches Institut
========================================
DUDEN - Die sinn- und sachverwandten Wörter
Subtitle: DUDEN's Dictionary of Synonyms
Publisher: Bibliographisches Institut
Order no.: 3-411-06971-6
Data format: EBG
Price: DM 78,-
Language: German
Date published: 91
Description:
There are 82,000 words and expressions on this disc, arranged in
categories for easy access, with accompanying notes on literary style
and nuance.
Category: Dictionary
available from: Bibliographisches Institut
========================================
Bertelsmann Universallexikon
Publisher: Bertelsmann Electronic Publishing
Order no.: 3-570-08019-6
Data format: EBXA
Price: DM 128,-
Language: German
Date published: 92
Description:
This comprehensive encyclopedia contains 70,000 entries covering a
huge range of subjects with over 1,000 images and tables and about 2
hours of sound ranging from animal noises to original recordings of
political speeches.
Category: Encyclopedia
available from: GEO Center, MEDIASALES
========================================
Maxi Cadet Electronique
Subtitle: French-English / English-French dictionary
Publisher: Le Robert / Harper / Collins
Data format: EBG
Language: English / French
Date published: 92
Description:
Over 65,000 entries. Easy-to-use, up-to-date and extensive.
Category: Dictionary
available from: EBP
========================================
Index de l'Encyclopaedia Universalis
Subtitle: Index of Encyclopedia Universalis
Publisher: Encyclopaedia Universalis
Order no.:
Data format: EBG
Price: £38
Language: French
Description:
An electronic index to aid consultation of the most comprehensive
encyclopedia in the French language. With 52,000 entries leading to
210,000 references.
Category: Index / Encyclopedia
available from: EBP
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Message-ID: <1994Apr10.152249.11874@seer.demon.co.uk>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <Co0FwG.1GB@csn.org>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:22:49 GMT
In article <Co0FwG.1GB@csn.org> rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
writes:
> In article <1994Apr9.191606.9141@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk
writes:
> >I expect I'll find some reasons when I take a better look at it. BTW,
> >installing Eloquent also takes time, it doesn't just plug and play.
>
> I've never had a problem installing it. What kinds of trouble have you
had?
> I've been beta testing it since last November and it has always
installed
> without any trouble.
I didn't have any problems; but I did have to fo through the Preferences
setting quite carefully. An end-user might not find it so simple; which
brings us back around to the good old ease of use discussion. Shouldn't
this be in advocacy?? :-)
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P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.EDU (Kevin H. Weiss)
Subject: Re: Setting up www server on a NeXT
Message-ID: <Co0GvK.MKH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <2o4vu6$1a4@cronkite.cisco.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 21:26:08 GMT
In article <2o4vu6$1a4@cronkite.cisco.com> tcollins@cisco.com (Tracy Collins)
writes:
> Hello,
>
> Can someone point me at info and/or software so that
> I can set up a www (mosaic) server on a (black) NeXT?
>
> thanks
>
> tcollins@cisco.com
I just compiled httpd_source.tar.gz on a (black) NeXT with no problems.
You just have to edit the Makefile, and look and some config files.
Also, you might try looking at http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ for
installation instructions, if you already have mosaic.
Good Luck.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Weiss Department of Mathematics
khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.edu (NeXT mail) University of Virginia
khw2x@virginia.edu (Non-NeXT mail)
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Date: 10 Apr 1994 17:37:40 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <2o9dh4$3fb@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <940409133418.695AACUG.malc@jeeves> <1994Apr9.191606.9141@seer.demon.co.uk>
>
>I feel slightly uncomfortable when the best features someone wants to
>suggest for a commercial product are those that are already available from
>very widely used free or PD sources. Surely Eloquent is better than that?
>
The number one, most important feature of Eloquent is MIME capability.
This is the major reason it was written, I suspect. I remember several months
ago when people were demanding MIME compliance from NeXTMail and bemoaning the
lack of a 3rd party mailer to handle the job; now there are two third party
MIME mailers, and Eloquent is getting short thrift for not having any real
features that you can't get for free?
I don't care if free utilities for NeXTMail are invented that allow me
to predict the future, I'm not going to even think about it again until it's
MIME compliant.
Rich Ogata
rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Lighthouse Design don t answer!
Message-ID: <Co1tyI.84@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:06:18 GMT
Does anybody know about LIGHTHOUSE Design. They now distribute WET
PAINT from PINNACLE and they don t answer to e-mail. New address?
Manfred
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From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...(NOT) NOT!!
Message-ID: <Co20v8.1IG@fragile.termfrost.org>
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
References: <Cnxzp6.1Cx@moksha.uucp> <2o7e0h$blm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:35:31 GMT
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca writes:
>Michael Branton writes
>> Gee, I have CubX and I'm very happy with it. I've never had any
>> problems with Intuitive Systems mail-bombing me
>Same here. Cub'X has been a trouble-free product for us.
Anyone care to do a more in-depth comparison between Cub'X and coXist?
I've got the demo of Cub'X on my system, and it's kinda nice except for one
or two little quirks....
MouseX dosen't have a 'mixed X/NS' mode, which is why I'd rather not use it
(though I have before and it's pretty good, except for that.)
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org>
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...(NOT) NOT!!
Message-ID: <1994Apr10.132335.5489@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
References: <2o7e0h$blm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 13:23:35 GMT
In article <2o7e0h$blm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca
writes:
> Michael Branton writes
>
> > Gee, I have CubX and I'm very happy with it. I've never had any
> > problems with Intuitive Systems mail-bombing me
>
> Same here. Cub'X has been a trouble-free product for us.
>
It's been a great product for lots of people. Former Cub'X and now Intuitiv
System have always put in great efforts to promote and support their
products.
Just a happy user,
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am
sure, you realize, that what you heard is not what I meant.
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Doom
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 17:13:06 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <Bu5tizK.jhepp@delphi.com>
References: <2neu4g$3hi@wolfy.ina.fr> <AOKI.94Apr1120835@madonna.phys.titech.ac.jp>
While we're on the subject...Why are the DoomSounds in Next FTP sites?
Is there some way to integrate. It would really enhance an
already-extremely-impressive diversion. Wondering. Jeff Hepp.
From: ajskinne@williams.edu (Andrew J. Skinner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cad for next?
Date: 10 Apr 1994 17:05:05 -0400
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Message-ID: <2o9pm1INNm4o@hancock.cc.williams.edu>
Does anyone know of any good CAD software that will run on my NeXTstation?
It is a motorola platform running NS 2.0.
Or does anyone know of any good CAD software that will run on any
version?
Thank you.
Andrew Skinner
ajskinne@williams.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta)
Subject: [Q] Workbench and keeping tools between sessions?
Message-ID: <1994Apr10.212603.29697@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 21:26:03 GMT
Is there a way to keep tools on the Workbench between sessions instead of
having to drag them there every time?
Thanks,
-Anand
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Message-ID: <1994Apr10.215730.12589@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2o9dh4$3fb@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 21:57:30 GMT
In article <2o9dh4$3fb@umd5.umd.edu> rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott
Ogata) writes:
> The number one, most important feature of Eloquent is MIME
capability.
> This is the major reason it was written, I suspect. I remember several
months
> ago when people were demanding MIME compliance from NeXTMail and
bemoaning the
> lack of a 3rd party mailer to handle the job; now there are two third
party
> MIME mailers, and Eloquent is getting short thrift for not having any
real
> features that you can't get for free?
> I don't care if free utilities for NeXTMail are invented that
allow me
> to predict the future, I'm not going to even think about it again until
it's
> MIME compliant.
MIME compliance might become a big thing; but at the moment there isn't
much in common commercial use that requires it. Microsoft are promising
it for their extra cost Mail upgrade, and most of the big and expensive
switch products include it. I don't see much demand, currently, from
commercial customers.
Paul
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From: gregf@fpl91.Berkeley.EDU (Greg C. Foliente)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RosettaStone.app (or equiv) for NS/Intel- Where?
Date: 10 Apr 1994 22:38:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2o9v5r$rd7@agate.berkeley.edu>
I used RosettaStone.app to change dos ascii files to unix/NeXT files and
vice versa in the good old days (i.e., when I was still using the black
beauty ;~) I have since moved to white hardware (NS/Intel) and am in need
of RosettaStone.app (or equivalent), where can I get one?
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From: jbeda@macel.st.hmc.edu (Joe Beda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Clean PGP compile on white
Date: 11 Apr 1994 00:04:54 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA
Message-ID: <2oa476$1fh@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
Keywords: NeXT PGP
I can't seem to get PGP 2.3a to compile. There is a next target in the make
file and it compiles clean. The only problem is that it doesn't work. It
doesn't read pubring files that I create (it will read pubring files created
on other machines though) and it gives a different date every time it is run.
Has anyone experienced this and figured it out?
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From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Date: 11 Apr 1994 04:41:23 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <2oakdj$t9f@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <2o9dh4$3fb@umd5.umd.edu> <1994Apr10.215730.12589@seer.demon.co.uk>
In article <1994Apr10.215730.12589@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk writes:
>MIME compliance might become a big thing; but at the moment there isn't
>much in common commercial use that requires it. Microsoft are promising
>it for their extra cost Mail upgrade, and most of the big and expensive
>switch products include it. I don't see much demand, currently, from
>commercial customers.
>
>Paul
Hmmm, well, you may not be hearing MIS types demanding MIME by name,
but they certainly want a way to interchange multi-media mail, and that
demand is going to get more strident with each passing day. We, for example,
jump through many nasty hoops to get attachments back and forth between
NeXTMail and MS Mail, and quite frankly, many have simply given up and gone
back to ASCII only.
Translators between "rich" mail formats almost inevitably result in
caveats and lost info/attributes. The only way to prevent this is to
standardize on a multi-media mail format, and MIME is the only thing out there
which I see as fitting the bill. We are purchasing Eloquent and Echelon to
replace NeXTMail and move to MIME. Eudora on the Macs has limited MIME
support, and we hope it will get better. A MS Mail to MIME gateway is
available, but we look forward to the upgrade from Microsoft. MIME compliant
mailers for our Sun systems are readily available.
My point is that those with mixed environments really need some sort
of multi-media mail standard which is supported in all of their environments,
and MIME is as close as we can come right now.
Rich Ogata
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Lighthouse Design don t answer! (yes they do)
Message-ID: <Co2uvv.D4o@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <Co1tyI.84@manki.toppoint.de>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 04:23:55 GMT
I've corresponded by email and snail mail this week with LightHouse.
I had no problem getting through.
In fact, they just shipped a new release of Concurrence (1.2)
with mostly bug fixes, and intel support.
dont panic
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: sanguish@digifix.com
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Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 11 Apr 1994 02:24:34 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2oaqf2$f6e@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
NEXTSTEP WWW Third Party Product Information Server
NEXTSTEP Third Party Product Mail Server
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
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The Server has information from many NEXTSTEP Third Party Developers.
As well, there are
- FTP links to the March 1994 NextAnswers MiniExamples
- the ONLY only Hypertext version of the NEXTSTEP Expo Information
- links to the big NEXTSTEP FTP sites
- information on the NEXTSTEP Newsgroups
Using a Mosaic compatible WWW reader, point to
<http://digifix.digifix.com/index.html>
[Under NEXTSTEP try OmniWeb.app (available from ftp.omnigroup.com:/pub/software)]
NEXTSTEP Third Party Product Mail Server
----------------------------------------
Finally online, the Mail Server will allow
you to retrieve information on NEXTSTEP products via
NextMail (other formats coming soon).
Accessing the Server
The information is free, and the service is supported by
sponsors from the NEXTSTEP Community. To find out what
information is available and how to use the server send
email to
ns-products@digifix.com
with
index
or
help
in the message.
Index and Help queries are returned as plain ASCII, all
others as NextMail.
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
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next-nextstep-d
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
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The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
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cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
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Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent - I don't want a whole new Mail.app
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.063131.2069@objectario.com>
Sender: shayman@objectario.com
Organization: Steve Hayman + Associates / NeXTSTEP Consulting / Toronto
References: <2o9dh4$3fb@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 06:31:31 GMT
> The number one, most important feature of Eloquent is MIME capability.
I'm sure it is. Personally though I don't want to switch to a whole
new mail application; I'm quite happy with Mail.app and so are a lot
of my customers.
I wish someone out there would put together some filters that would
let me use Mail.app with MIME. This should be do-able.
By setting defaults, you can replace both the program that Mail.app
uses to fetch mail out of /usr/spool/mail/username (by default,
Mail.app/MailFetch) and the program it uses to deliver mail (sendmail)
with programs of your own choosing.
Why not replace MailFetch with something that converts from MIME format
to NeXTMail format. That lets you read MIME mail that someone sends
you. Then replace sendmail with something that converts from NeXTMail
to MIME format. That lets you send MIME mail. Problem solved.
No need for a whole new app.
The only hard part I can see is coming up with a way to decide
whether outgoing mail should be sent as MIME or NeXTMail or plain
ASCII. You could have your sendmail-replacement pop up a "MIME or
NeXTMail?" window, just like the receiptfilter program does. (It
acts as a replacement for sendmail and recognizes when a read
receipt is being generated, and pops up an alert panel asking if
you really want to send a read receipt.)
This outgoing filter program could also let you maintain an address
book saying which of your favourite recipients can get MIME, which
can get NeXTMail, which can only get regular mail, and so on - maybe
even convert the message to a fax for some people - and
do the appropriate NeXTMail-to-MIME conversion if necessary, and
hand the resulting mail message off to sendmail for the actual
delivery.
Most of the hard work has been done already; there are programs
you can get that pack and unpack MIME mail, and NeXTmail enclosure
format is reasonably well understood. Please, somebody put something
like this together! (Or tell me how much you'd like to have
something like this too, and I'll get around to doing it myself.)
Steve
---
Steve Hayman shayman@Objectario.com
Steve Hayman & Associates, Toronto, Ontario
(416) 769-8995 NeXTSTEP Consulting
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...(NOT) NOT!!
Date: 11 Apr 1994 07:05:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Message-ID: <2oasr6$n8q@Times.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Cnxzp6.1Cx@moksha.uucp> <2o7e0h$blm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <Co20v8.1IG@fragile.termfrost.org>
In article <Co20v8.1IG@fragile.termfrost.org>,
Mike Andrews <kramer@fragile.termfrost.org> wrote:
>Anyone care to do a more in-depth comparison between Cub'X and coXist?
>I've got the demo of Cub'X on my system, and it's kinda nice except for one
>or two little quirks....
I'd love to see a comparison also. I'm leaning towards Cub'X, but I
really wish there had been a standard PC-magazine style head-to-head
article in NeXTWORLD about them or that someone on the net who had
access to both would just tell us the situation. Even a flame war would
be better than not knowing anything about how they compare. :-)
Damnit, I'm just SURE that Cub'X is better! I've seen coXist on a
friends black hardware and it was way slow, and he had a few other
complaints as well....
-Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent - I don't want a whole new Mail.app
Message-ID: <Co3613.Fu3@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
References: <2o9dh4$3fb@umd5.umd.edu> <1994Apr11.063131.2069@objectario.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 08:24:38 GMT
In response to Steve Hayman...
Eloquent is more than just a MIME-compliant mail app. It has a ton of
cool features. However, if you are determined to stick it out with
Mail.app, wait for Mail II (rumored to be part of NS 3.3)...It is rumored
to be MIME compliant. NeXT isn't going to goof on this one. They know
people want MIME.
-Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Message-ID: <schwettCo36Ip.IE9@netcom.com>
Keywords: ps fonts nextstep intel corel afm
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 08:35:13 GMT
Hi everybody..
I assumed that since everything about NeXTStep was so generally easy and
profound, it would be a snap to add some more PostScript fonts.
I figured on just dragging them into my fonts folder.
Whoops.
The situation is as follows:
I am really sick of the fact that NeXTStep only comes with *two* useable
PostScript fonts, and won't even me use the ones that are already in
my LaserJet 4M. So I pulled out a CD-ROM (Corel Draw for MicroShaft
Windoze) and copied a bunch of PostScript fonts from it. I copied both the
outline file (I forget the extensions) and the metric file.
Then I looked at some NeXT PS fonts and realized that they were obiously
entirely differnt. So I found that program (forgot the name, and I'm not
in NeXTStep righ tnow) that converts pfb binaries to the ASCII Format that
NeXTStep enjoys. After this, the fonts looked identical in format to the
ones included with NS/i.
So I made a new folder called "Coolfont.font" and copied the two files
into it.
Of course, nothing happened when I restarted. Then I found buildafmdir, and
I ran that, which, upon restarting, added the new font to my font panels.
Yay!
But no, I can't actually use the font. It tells me the format is unuseable.
Does anybody know where I went wrong? Am I making life more difficult?
Should I just suck it up and buy the exact matching equivalents of the 35
outlines included in my printer, that I have already paid Adobe for in the
form of the HP PostScript SIMM?
Many Sighs,
Mark Schwettmann
Thanks in advance!
P.S. I read in a programming book that the NeXT printer was a "dumb"
printer, with the NeXT itself handling the rasterization and then
sending a bitmap.
Surely, this isn't how NS/i deals with PostScript printers, is it?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thewoz!lagerhead!bob@netcom.com (Bob Jones)
Message-ID: <9404110506.AA01018@lagerhead>
Subject: ZyXEL Modem Left in AutoAnswer
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 01:06:11 -0400
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: Renderman Matrices product
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.091815.371@ares.fdn.org>
Keywords: Renderman Bug
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:18:15 GMT
After several tests
it seems that the composition of two transformations (Transform) is bugged
in renderman. I was thinking that this bug was fixed.
ex :
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#version 3.03
##System NeXTSTEP Release 3
##Creator ZZvolume on NeXTSTEP - (C) 1993 Gery.Divry
Display "Image_000.tiff" "tiff" "rgb"
Format 624 514 1.00
CropWindow 0.0000000 1.0000000 0.0000000 1.0000000
Option "shadow" "bias0" 0.005
Option "shadow" "bias1" 0.01
ShadingRate 4.000000
ShadingInterpolation "smooth"
Projection "perspective" "fov" 13.661610
Orientation "lh"
Identity
Rotate 0.000000 0.0 0.0 1.0
Rotate -65.905157 1.0 0.0 0.0
Rotate 26.565051 0.0 1.0 0.0
Translate -0.200000 -1.160000 0.400000
Declare "coneangle" "float"
Declare "conedeltaangle" "float"
Declare "beamdistribution" "float"
Declare "intensity" "float"
Declare "lightcolor" "color"
Declare "from" "point"
Declare "to" "point"
LightSource "ambientlight 0" "ambientlight" "intensity" [0.25]
LightSource "distantlight Soleil" "distantlight" "from" [-0.539658
0.303675 -0.785207] "to" [0 0 0] "intensity" [0.85]
MacroBegin "chaise"
AttributeBegin
Color 1.000 0.451 0.235
Opacity 1.000 1.000 1.000
AttributeBegin
Patch "bilinear" "P" [ -0.01750 0.00000 -0.04637 -0.01750 0.04500 -0.04637
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AttributeEnd
AttributeBegin
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Only one chair appear.... i should have a second one with a 90deg angle
The composition of two Identity Matrix is Ok ( fortunatly) but an Identity
with an other type of matrix dont seem to work.
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: renderman bug
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.092024.742@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:20:24 GMT
After several tests
it seems that the composition of two transformations (Transform) is bugged
in renderman. I was thinking that this bug was fixed.
ex :
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##System NeXTSTEP Release 3
##Creator ZZvolume on NeXTSTEP - (C) 1993 Gery.Divry
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Only one chair appear.... i should have a second one with a 90deg angle
The composition of two Identity Matrix is Ok ( fortunatly) but an Identity
with an other type of matrix dont seem to work.
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org>
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...(NOT) NOT!!
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.131942.1699@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
References: <2oasr6$n8q@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:19:42 GMT
In article <2oasr6$n8q@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
(Karl Robert Pfleger) writes:
> In article <Co20v8.1IG@fragile.termfrost.org>,
> Mike Andrews <kramer@fragile.termfrost.org> wrote:
> >Anyone care to do a more in-depth comparison between Cub'X and coXist?
> >I've got the demo of Cub'X on my system, and it's kinda nice except for
one
> >or two little quirks....
>
> I'd love to see a comparison also. I'm leaning towards Cub'X, but I
> really wish there had been a standard PC-magazine style head-to-head
> article in NeXTWORLD about them or that someone on the net who had
> access to both would just tell us the situation. Even a flame war would
> be better than not knowing anything about how they compare. :-)
>
> Damnit, I'm just SURE that Cub'X is better! I've seen coXist on a
> friends black hardware and it was way slow, and he had a few other
> complaints as well....
>
> -Karl
Well, I am pretty sure the benchMarks are on the net somewhere. I think the
Cub'X people ran an X bench product some months ago and put the results on
their usual ftp site. I never had access to coXist but I ran demos which
were on different CDs and it seems to crawl a little bit. Cub'X Window is
pretty fast compared to the Pencom software. I never had the chance to test
the third commercial X product.
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am
sure, you realize, that what you heard is not what I meant.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:17:17 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <YheIrRW00WBMA1ZjIv@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <schwettCo36Ip.IE9@netcom.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Apr-94 How to add non
NeXT PS Fonts? by schwett@netcom.com
> P.S. I read in a programming book that the NeXT printer was a "dumb"
> printer, with the NeXT itself handling the rasterization and then
> sending a bitmap.
> Surely, this isn't how NS/i deals with PostScript printers, is it?
This is exactly how NS/i deals with printers. It is a lot easier and
cheaper to upgrade your machine than your printer. (By upgrade, I mean
any of: getting a new version of PostScript [when NEXTSTEP became PS
level 2 compliant, every NeXT printer supported PS level 2 immediately],
adding more RAM, getting a faster CPU, etc.)
Note that other workstation vendors do the exact same thing; for
example, Sun's SPARCprinter is a dumb printer with the machine it's
connected to doing all of the work.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bertin@euler.cpi.com(Scott J. Bertin)
Subject: Re: Clarifying problem with Omniweb
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.135425.3140@alw.nih.gov>
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
References: <2ns78g$h72@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:54:25 GMT
In article <2ns78g$h72@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
jtake@rocky.civil.ualberta.ca (Peaceful times have come and gone...)
writes:
[...]
>
> My problem is getting other (off-line, I believe) images to view
> properly. Clicking on them does not work, etc. Does this clarify the
> problem?
>
> John
The solution to this is to click on the link in the browser before
clicking on the image.
A better solution is to get the latest version (0.6.2) from
ftp.omnigroup.com. This has been fixed, along with several other
improvements.
Scott Bertin
From: philipp@enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tip replacement with x/y/zmodem support
Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:46:40 +0200
Organization: Telecom Paris, France
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2obnsg$ji2@inf.enst.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: tip, xmodem
For the moment, I can't run PPP from home. So I'm looking for a
package like tip or tip_zmodem that works on NS 3.2 (white) that
can talk to an HP-UX system. I've had problems compiling tip_zmodem
-- apparently it is pre-version 3.1... And doesn't take into account
support for termios now available.
I would do the porting myself (I have time on my hands) but I broke
a couple of fingers this weekend... typing is left-handed and slow.
-Philip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...(NOT) NOT!!
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.125911.3104@metasoft.fdn.org>
Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org
Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France.
References: <2o7e0h$blm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:59:11 GMT
In article <2o7e0h$blm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca writes:
> Michael Branton writes
>
> > Gee, I have CubX and I'm very happy with it. I've never had any
> > problems with Intuitive Systems mail-bombing me
>
> Same here. Cub'X has been a trouble-free product for us.
Cub'X window with the Motif package offers a real an stable professional
X11 environment... Some great X11 products editors has already port their
software engineering tools on Cub'X Window. Non Standard Logics, for
example, has already port XFaceMaker (a powerful Motif user interface
managment system) on it. The port was made in 2 hours, it was just
"compile and run"...
At the same time (and on the same screen !), I can easily work on the
design of 2 similar interfaces : one in NEXTSTEP and one in Motif...
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax:(+33) 99 35 00 45
Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: PostScript fonts for NeXTSTEP source?
Message-ID: <Co3nu8.6yx@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:49:19 GMT
Is there anyone out there selling PostScript fonts compatible with NeXTSTEP?
I spoke to Adobe sales, and they did not resume selling NeXT PS
fonts after RightBrain dropped out of the market. The saleswoman I spoke
to said to buy DOS/Windoze PS fonts and convert them (FYI: she did know
what NeXT was, and all about RightBrain, etc...). She said there were NO
dealers for NeXT fonts any more.
I'm especially looking for Palatino and TradeGothic font series right
now, but there will be others...
I'll post a summary of anything useful that's emailed to me...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Date: 11 Apr 1994 11:46:51 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404111646.AA12133@alleg.EDU>
In comp.sys.next.software article <2o49vu$2dk@machthenext.dannug.dk>
Only one catch, though, you^d have to be a superuser on a
normal NeXT system, as the disk command isn^t available to
normal users
Maybe I'm just feeling inferior because I'm just a lowly regular
user, but doesn't it seem silly to not be able to eject a disk
without being a superuser? I realize there is a lot of damage which
can be done with the 'disk' command, but it seems really foolish to
lose the entire ability to do this.
Anyone suggest a workaround for we bourgeois-users?
Tim
---
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh)
Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.1 Motorola
MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO
No Root access, no super-user access
From: riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: COBOL compilers?
Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:39:00 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Message-ID: <2obuf4$op4@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>
Keywords: cobol
The subject pretty much says it all. We have the need for
a COBOL compiler to run in two student labs on a mixture
of Motorola/Intel NEXTSTEP boxes. Thanks in advance.
David D. Riley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Re: Data Encryption Software
Message-ID: <1994Apr8.181601.250@stone.com>
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
References: <CnwGCL.35q@ware.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:16:01 GMT
In article <CnwGCL.35q@ware.com> jalegre@ware.com (John Alegre) writes:
> We are looking for some data encryption software that will run on
> NeXT. Most likely anything that runs on Berkeley UNIX 4.3 or 4.2 can
> be made to work. Our needs are password protection and possibly
> encryption tied to the password so it would be impossible to
> translate even for the best hacker.
>
What you need is the Clipper chip. (sorry I couldn't resist)
pgp is pretty good privacy, and it's free.
--
||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>|<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
!! Andrew Stone | (505) 345-4800 !!
!! andrew@stone.com | Stone Design Corp !!
||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?>|<+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>||
From: samurai@wsc.com (Darcy Brockbank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:51:47 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those
held by WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <2obv73$vh@cerberus.wsc.com>
References: <940408191752.695AACUE.malc@jeeves>
In article <940408191752.695AACUE.malc@jeeves> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
(Malcolm Crawford) writes:
> and at a guess are looking for more suggestions(?) e.g. in the last week
they
> have added automatic archiving (like Mail), and Emacs key-binding.
>
The people at Eloquent are very good at responding to user
requests. If you have a request, make it now! I suggested
(amongst others) the Emacs keybindings, and after I sent
the source code, they integrated it in a single day.
All through this I kept in contact with them, and gave
them my suggestions for UI, etc. The thing that surprised
me was that they actually listened, and asked me more
about what I thought, and why I thought it, and why
they did it like they did.
I was expecting either:
a) to be ignored
b) to be told I was wrong
Neither happened, and hence they've won my respect. If they
are able to meet the suggestions that I laid out, I will
likely purchase several licenses to run at my company.
I hate the way Mail.app closes my active mailbox when I'm
sending out a message at the same time Mail.app is loading
in new one's from /usr/spool/mail. I'll try something
different if it's priced nicely, and Eloquent seems to
be.
- darcy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: PostScript fonts for NeXTSTEP source?
In-Reply-To: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca's message of Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:49:19 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Apr11100908@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <Co3nu8.6yx@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 17:09:08 GMT
Chris Saldanha writes:
Chris> Is there anyone out there selling PostScript fonts compatible with
Chris> NeXTSTEP? I spoke to Adobe sales, and they did not resume selling
Chris> NeXT PS fonts after RightBrain dropped out of the market. The Chris>
saleswoman I spoke to said to buy DOS/Windoze PS fonts and convert Chris>
them (FYI: she did know what NeXT was, and all about RightBrain, Chris>
etc...). She said there were NO dealers for NeXT fonts any more.
Okay, so maybe our salsepeople aren't always clued in :-( ! <Sheesh!>
Trilithon Software is the Authorized Adobe Reseller for NEXTSTEP fonts.
Contact info@trilithon.com for more information.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteNow questions
Date: 11 Apr 1994 17:08:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2oc06c$d7m@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Apr10.101406.16159@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
In article <1994Apr10.101406.16159@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem
van Schaik) writes:
>statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) writes:
>
>> I have some old WriteNow files, but no longer have WriteNow. It
>>was bundled with my NS2.1 station, but I didn't purchase it when it was
>>unbundled. Am I still legally allowed to use WriteNow? Will it run in
>>NS3.2?
>
>Yes, ofcourse you are still allowed to use it. You BOUGHT it once. It
>still runs on NS3.0, so I figure (but I'm not sure) that it will run
>on NS3.2 too.
WriteNow form 2.1 runs fine on NS3.2 (of course Black only). I haven't
done extensive editing with it lately though, just updating old documents
created by WriteNow.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT and MIME mails OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: horshack@lisa.franken.de (Richard Lippmann)
Subject: WordPerfect: default A4 instead of Letter
Message-ID: <Co2CH9.pt@lisa.franken.de>
Sender: root@lisa.franken.de (Operator)
Organization: Kommunikationsnetz Franken e.V.
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 21:46:21 GMT
How do I set that WordPerfect takes A4-Pages as default instead of
Letter?
--
Richard Lippmann Nur Beamte koennen wie...
phone voice: +49+911+69.84.58 ... Beamte denken
mail : horshack@lisa.franken.de (welcome NeXTmail!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: daniel@dgbt.doc.ca (Daniel Lauzon)
Subject: SLIP software
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.163138.23800@dgbt.doc.ca>
Keywords: slip transys dialup
Sender: news@dgbt.doc.ca (News user)
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:31:38 GMT
I am trying to setup a slip link from an intel-box.
My reading of the transys dialup packages' docs is that it will only run on black hardware.
Is this Correct ?
If so, is there publically available software to run slip on NS3.2 running on white hardware ?
Thanks in advance
---
Daniel Lauzon
daniel@dgbt.doc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: daniel@dgbt.doc.ca (Daniel Lauzon)
Subject: SLIP software
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.160324.19214@dgbt.doc.ca>
Keywords: slip, transys dialup
Sender: news@dgbt.doc.ca (News user)
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:03:24 GMT
I am reading all the docs from the transys Dial-up/NeXT SLIP implentation and It seems
to indicate that it only run on black hardware.
Is this the case ?, and if so, is there a publically available version of SLIP that will run
under NS3.2 on white hardware ?
Thanks in advance.
---
Daniel Lauzon
daniel@dgbt.doc.ca
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: coXist, mouseX, cub'X (was Re: CoXist or MouseX?)
Date: 11 Apr 1994 18:46:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2oc5tf$f3e@agate.berkeley.edu>
>I'd love to see a comparison also. I'm leaning towards Cub'X, but I
>really wish there had been a standard PC-magazine style head-to-head
>article in NeXTWORLD about them or that someone on the net who had
>access to both would just tell us the situation.
--
I've recieved literature from co-Xist that claims they are rated tops by
NeXTworld.
I think if such a comparison is done, it is important to distinguish
whether the software takes over the Next windowing system or runs
alongside it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jessica L. Mosher
Mills College
Oakland, CA USA
From: kunkle@harry.cofc.edu (Tom Kunkle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Preview under 3.2
Date: 11 Apr 1994 19:53:19 GMT
Organization: Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia
Message-ID: <2oc9rf$l7k@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu>
Since installing NS 3.2, I've noticed the following
annoying change in Preview:
If File.ps is already open and after changing it I
reopen File.ps (from either the open menu within
Preview or from a Terminal command line),
Preview doesn't look to the latest
saved version, but just brings to the front the already
open window that contains some older
version of File.ps that it drew.
That is, if I edit the PostScript file and want to view
the resulting changes, I must close the window containing
the old version before Preview will let me see the new version.
Under NS3.0, I would get the new window without having
to close the old one.
Not only does this mean an extra thing for me to do, but once
in a while, it's useful to see both the new and the old versions
simultaneously.
While this is not a life-threatening problem, I'd
like to know if there is a way to fix this.
Any input would be appreciated.
Tom Kunkle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent - I don't want a whole new Mail.app
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.110404.4451@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <2o9dh4$3fb@umd5.umd.edu> <1994Apr11.063131.2069@objectario.com> <Co3613.Fu3@csn.org>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 11:04:04 GMT
In article <Co3613.Fu3@csn.org> rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt) writes:
>
>In response to Steve Hayman...
>
>Eloquent is more than just a MIME-compliant mail app. It has a ton of
>cool features. However, if you are determined to stick it out with
>Mail.app, wait for Mail II (rumored to be part of NS 3.3)...It is rumored
>to be MIME compliant. NeXT isn't going to goof on this one. They know
>people want MIME.
I bet they don't offer real MIME compliance, using the MIME standard for
rich text, attachments, etc. I bet they just define NeXTMail to be a MIME
extension.
It'll be a hack anyway, just wait and see. :-)
Dave Griffiths
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:32:37 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4heOLJK00UhBQ634x8@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <9404111646.AA12133@alleg.EDU>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Apr-94 Re: Little
program to eject.. by Timothy J. Luoma@alleg.E
> In comp.sys.next.software article <2o49vu$2dk@machthenext.dannug.dk>
>
> Only one catch, though, you^d have to be a superuser on a
> normal NeXT system, as the disk command isn^t available to
> normal users
>
> Maybe I'm just feeling inferior because I'm just a lowly regular
> user, but doesn't it seem silly to not be able to eject a disk
> without being a superuser? I realize there is a lot of damage which
> can be done with the 'disk' command, but it seems really foolish to
> lose the entire ability to do this.
>
> Anyone suggest a workaround for we bourgeois-users?
Have your sysadmin install the following program as setuid-root:
int main()
{
system("/usr/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0a");
return 0;
}
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rsb2b@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Ralph S. Buckley)
Subject: Power PC and NeXTSTEP???
Message-ID: <Co42rJ.BFL@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: uva
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 20:11:43 GMT
Hello.
I am wondering if NeXTSTEP will be ported to the POWERPC
Macintosh machines.
Any info on this???
--
Ralph Buckley
University of Virginia
Department of Medicine
RSB2B@VIRGINIA.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson)
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Message-ID: <76610789920547@dalek.mcs.anl.gov>
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Math and Computer Science, Argonne National Laboratory
References: <4heOLJK00UhBQ634x8@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 23:44:59 GMT
It seems a simpler method would be to put together a little program
that invokes the unmountAndEjectDeviceAt:path workspace request. The
following works without special perms, though you likely need to be
the user logged in a the console. Does anyone know how to do this
without actually doing the [NXApp run]?
#import <stdio.h>
#import <appkit/Application.h>
#import <appkit/workspaceRequest.h>
char *path;
@interface MyObj : Object
{
}
- appDidInit:sender;
@end
@implementation MyObj
- appDidInit:sender
{
int rc;
printf("App did init path=%s\n", path);
[[Application workspace] unmountAndEjectDeviceAt:path];
[NXApp terminate:self];
return self;
}
@end
main(int argc, char **argv)
{
id obj;
obj = [[MyObj alloc] init];
if (argc != 2)
{
fprintf(stderr, "Usage: %s path\n", argv[0]);
exit(1);
}
path = argv[1];
printf("Ejecting %s\n", path);
[Application new];
[NXApp setDelegate:obj];
[NXApp run];
[NXApp free];
}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: SB16 driver, DPMS screen saver?
Message-ID: <Co4D04.3yo@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 23:52:52 GMT
Are these available for NS/Intel? The DPMS screen saver would be ideally
for an ATI GUP, but I'm willing to move to any card which supports it...
Thank's,...
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (no NeXT)
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS/I 3.2 does not mount DOS partition and sound card problem
Date: 12 Apr 1994 00:33:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2ocq89$p3i@news.service.uci.edu>
(1)
I have two IDE DRIVES.
Drive 1: OS/2 boot manager, Next, DOS
Drive 2: DOS primary, DOS logical drive
When NeXT is running, it does not recognize the DOS partition on the first
Drive. It does not recognize the DOS logical drive on the 2nd Drive,
either.
It does recognize the Primary DOS partition on the 2nd Drive when first
login after booting. Subsequent logins, however, lose it.
(2) I got an internal NEC 500 CD-ROM, used an internal audio cable to
connect the CD ROM to a Pro-audio studio card. Under DOS an audio CD can
be played and heard through the sound card, but it does not work under
Next 3.2 with CDPlayer. Instead, I have to plug an earphone at the front
of the CD ROM.
Also, the Pro-audio studio card does not seem to have an internal
connection for the internal speaker, when I install the Proaudio
sound card driver, the system beep sound does not work with the internal
speaker anymore. I would like to have the internal speaker for system
beep when I am not working with the sound card.
Any help, or clues are appreciated.
Thanks.
Feng Liu
UC, Irvine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Omniweb (...)
Message-ID: <Co4Ew0.Cq7@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:35:54 GMT
First off, I am way pleased with OmniWeb. I am ready to send a check as
soon as the app becomes 1.0.
It has crashed a few times and the only relationship I can find is
that both times the program had been active for more than an hour
and each time it war reading an html file with many images on screen
at once. After restarting though, it read those screens fine.
I like the Bookmark feature, but does anyone know how to remove a
book mark?
And wouldn't it be nice if there was a feature to get the file size
on an image prior to loading it, or maybe setting a preference for
the maximum file size for images to DL, and when an image exceeds that
size simple display it as an icon? This is needed for those with slow
modem connections not 10BT of course.
Anyway, this app is a winner in my book. I never liked having to load
XWindows on a NeXT to run Mosaic. If I wanted XWindows, I would have
bought a SUN or something else, not a NeXT.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: cad for next?
Date: 11 Apr 1994 08:41:41 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2oauvl$14q@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2o9pm1INNm4o@hancock.cc.williams.edu>
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ajskinne@williams.edu (Andrew J. Skinner) writes:
>Or does anyone know of any good CAD software that will run on any
>version?
Ask academy@cube.de about ACADEMY. I don't know if it runs on 2.0,
but it runs FAT on 3.x. Really nice CAD application. The Demo is
available via ftp from the usual NeXTSTEP ftp sites.
Markus.
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Subject: Re: Clean PGP compile on white
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.180409.15752@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com
Date: 11 Apr 94 18:04:09 MDT
References: <2oa476$1fh@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
Distribution: world
In article <2oa476$1fh@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> writes:
> I can't seem to get PGP 2.3a to compile. There is a next target in the make
> file and it compiles clean. The only problem is that it doesn't work.
The NEXTSTEP support in the PGP makefile is for black hardware. There
is a compiler flag which specifies whether to use big or little endian
byte order. In the PGP Makefile, the NEXT entry defines -DHIGHFIRST.
This is appropriate for black hardware, but not white. Remove this
flag, recompile, and all should be well.
Howard
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From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Message-ID: <Co4FnG.4A4@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <2oakdj$t9f@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:50:03 GMT
In article <2oakdj$t9f@umd5.umd.edu> rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott
Ogata) writes:
> In article <1994Apr10.215730.12589@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk
writes:
> >MIME compliance might become a big thing; but at the moment there isn't
> >much in common commercial use that requires it. Microsoft are promising
> >it for their extra cost Mail upgrade, and most of the big and expensive
> >switch products include it. I don't see much demand, currently, from
> >commercial customers.
> >
> >Paul
>
> Hmmm, well, you may not be hearing MIS types demanding MIME by name,
> but they certainly want a way to interchange multi-media mail, and that
> demand is going to get more strident with each passing day. We, for
example,
> jump through many nasty hoops to get attachments back and forth between
> NeXTMail and MS Mail, and quite frankly, many have simply given up and gone
> back to ASCII only.
> Translators between "rich" mail formats almost inevitably result in
> caveats and lost info/attributes. The only way to prevent this is to
> standardize on a multi-media mail format, and MIME is the only thing out
there
> which I see as fitting the bill. We are purchasing Eloquent and Echelon to
> replace NeXTMail and move to MIME. Eudora on the Macs has limited MIME
> support, and we hope it will get better. A MS Mail to MIME gateway is
> available, but we look forward to the upgrade from Microsoft. MIME
compliant
> mailers for our Sun systems are readily available.
> My point is that those with mixed environments really need some sort
> of multi-media mail standard which is supported in all of their
environments,
> and MIME is as close as we can come right now.
>
> Rich Ogata
It's interesting that no one has mentioned NeXT's hints about an improved NeXT
Mail that appeared in the NEXTSTEP Expo announcement describing the
conference. From this it would appear that the "new and improved" NeXT Mail
would support a variety of formats and be demoed at the conference; perhaps to
ship soon thereafter ?
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
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From: devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there CSLIP for NSFIP 3.2 via FTP?
Date: 11 Apr 1994 22:18:10 -0700
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Message-ID: <2odaui$eji@nic.cerf.net>
Hello,
I finally have my NSFIP3.2 up and running and need to get
connected to the net to feel like a real person again. Is there a
version of CSLIP available (Public Domain) via FTP anyplace on the
net.
I don't want to buy Morning Star's PPP/Slip package. One,
I'd prefer not to buy it, and two it seems like only the software
that you buy has bugs and requires upgrades and patches. Ever notice
that the good PD written stuff works well? Why can't stuff you buy
be like that? Anyway I have seen FTP on the net for NS 2.0, I have
a feeling its not compatible with 3.2FIP
Many Thanks.
Jeff
devildog@cerf.net
Reply Via Email Please...
:wq!
From: devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can NSFIP be booted from OS/2 Bootmgr?
Date: 11 Apr 1994 22:22:59 -0700
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Message-ID: <2odb7j$f5p@nic.cerf.net>
Hello,
I have NSFIP 3.2 and OS/2 2.1 loaded on different disks on the same
system. Drive C is OS/2 and Drive D is NSFIP. OS/2 puts a bootmgr
on the disk that allows you to boot from any drive with a recognized
bootable partition on it.
I sucessfully loaded each drive with its software. When I boot the
system and select the NS drive it goes out and grabs drive D and
loads the NS Boot program. The display even reads NS Boot v1.28
and then hangs. I know the install of NS works because if I boot
from the NS Floppy diskette and at the boot prompt type:
sd(1)mach_kernel rootdev=sd1a
Everything boots great...
Has anyone done this? What's the secret???
MTIA
Jeff
devildog@cerf.net
Please Reply Via Email!
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Date: 12 Apr 1994 06:07:00 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2oddq4$4h8@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <4heOLJK00UhBQ634x8@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <4heOLJK00UhBQ634x8@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Have your sysadmin install the following program as setuid-root:
>
>int main()
>{
> system("/usr/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0a");
> return 0;
>}
Why don't you try that on YOUR machine before you recommend it to
others.
[Do the words "mounted filesystem" mean anything to you?]
-=EPS=-
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...(NOT) NOT!!
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 02:28:40 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <Bi7tavQ.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <2o7e0h$blm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <1994Apr11.125911.3104@metasoft.fdn.org>
We would like to add our support to Cub'x! We've never encountered any
problems of the sort mentioned int the first post, and think they
have an excellent X environment for NSFIP. Claire and company have
always been very helpful.
eCesys.
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: coXist, mouseX, cub'X (was Re: CoXist or MouseX?)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 02:31:26 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <Jgzty9e.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <2oc5tf$f3e@agate.berkeley.edu>
Cub'x is an excellent product on INTEL hardware.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: SLIP software
Message-ID: <1994Apr12.063952.16275@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994Apr11.160324.19214@dgbt.doc.ca>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 06:39:52 GMT
In article <1994Apr11.160324.19214@dgbt.doc.ca> daniel@dgbt.doc.ca (Daniel
Lauzon) writes:
> I am reading all the docs from the transys Dial-up/NeXT SLIP
implentation and It seems
> to indicate that it only run on black hardware.
>
> Is this the case ?, and if so, is there a publically available version
of SLIP that will run
> under NS3.2 on white hardware ?
TransSys SLIP does indeed work only on black. For Intel users, you need
PNI SLIP, which is available from cs.orst.edu in: /pub/next/binaries/comm
as TransSys-PNI-1.7-beta.tar.gz.
Paul
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there CSLIP for NSFIP 3.2 via FTP?
Date: 12 Apr 1994 08:45:29 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2odjip$95q@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2odaui$eji@nic.cerf.net>
devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>
>Hello,
>
> I finally have my NSFIP3.2 up and running and need to get
>connected to the net to feel like a real person again. Is there a
>version of CSLIP available (Public Domain) via FTP anyplace on the
>net.
Tran SYS PNI on src.doc.ic.ac.uk in it's current beta state supports
CLIP for free. The commercial one wont though.
>
> I don't want to buy Morning Star's PPP/Slip package. One,
>I'd prefer not to buy it, and two it seems like only the software
>that you buy has bugs and requires upgrades and patches. Ever notice
>that the good PD written stuff works well? Why can't stuff you buy
>be like that? Anyway I have seen FTP on the net for NS 2.0, I have
>a feeling its not compatible with 3.2FIP
The MST PPP software is simply excellent. It the best in existance.
It has the most powerful packet filtering on the market and it's the
most reliable and useful I've seen.
>
>Many Thanks.
>
>Jeff
>devildog@cerf.net
>
>Reply Via Email Please...
>:wq!
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From: mallen@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tape backup software?
Date: 12 Apr 1994 07:41:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2odjac$nun@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Hi. I just got a SCSI tape-drive as "payment" from a friend who had inherited
several hodge-podge pieces of computer equipement, and I was wondering a couple
of things.
a) Will my NeXT/Mach and/or UNIX recognize this as a tape drive?
b) Does UNIX have tape back-up commands built in or do I have rely on a 3rd
party vendors? (Especially since this drive is for around 155 MB tapes,
and my hard drive is 340 MB.)
c) Anyone got a spare SCSI cable and a terminator they'd part with for cheap?
(Cable must be have male ends and terminator must also be male.)
Any help would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks.
--
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From: nike@indirect.com (Laurence Canter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users
Subject: Green Card Lottery- Final One?
Date: 12 Apr 1994 08:01:54 GMT
Organization: Canter & Siegel
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From: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk (Graham Judd)
Subject: Re: Power PC and NeXTSTEP???
Message-ID: <1994Apr12.101148.22651@hackatg.demon.co.uk>
Sender: gjudd@hackatg.demon.co.uk
Organization: Hackwood Service Company
References: <Co42rJ.BFL@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 10:11:48 GMT
In article <Co42rJ.BFL@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rsb2b@galen.med.Virginia.EDU
(Ralph S. Buckley) writes:
> Hello.
>
>
> I am wondering if NeXTSTEP will be ported to the POWERPC
> Macintosh machines.
There has been a long thread in comp.sys.powerpc about NeXTSTEP being ported
to to the PowerPC...
--
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+44 71 606 7080 voice gjudd@siward.demon.co.uk [Home, NO NeXTMail]
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Subject: Re: WriteNow questions
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.205722.417@stone.com>
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 20:57:22 GMT
Sender: andrew@stone.com
References: <1994Apr10.101406.16159@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Organization: Stone Design Corp
In article <1994Apr10.101406.16159@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) writes:
>
> > I have some old WriteNow files, but no longer have WriteNow. It
> >was bundled with my NS2.1 station, but I didn't purchase it when it was
> >unbundled. Am I still legally allowed to use WriteNow? Will it run in
> >NS3.2?
>
> Yes, ofcourse you are still allowed to use it. You BOUGHT it once. It
> still runs on NS3.0, so I figure (but I'm not sure) that it will run
> on NS3.2 too.
>
Inside the WriteNow.app appwrapper is a binary filter, wn-rtf. You should
be able to use that to convert .wn files to .rtf files right from the
command line:
wn-rtf < input.wn > output.rtf
I don't think it does graphics correctly, unfortunately.
andrew
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent
Date: 12 Apr 1994 15:44:27 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <2oefkr$c48@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <2oakdj$t9f@umd5.umd.edu> <Co4FnG.4A4@moksha.uucp>
Michael Branton (mgb@moksha.uucp) wrote:
: It's interesting that no one has mentioned NeXT's hints about an improved NeXT
: Mail that appeared in the NEXTSTEP Expo announcement describing the
: conference. From this it would appear that the "new and improved" NeXT Mail
: would support a variety of formats and be demoed at the conference; perhaps to
: ship soon thereafter ?
Yep. Sounds interesting. This is the announcement that Michael refers to
(from the NEXPO Guide):
>Mail Interoperability
>Moderator: Francois Koutchouk, Product Manager, NeXT Computer
>
>This session will introduce users to the new NeXTmail, a
>world-class user agent interoperating in a world without
>standards. NeXT will show its dazzling array of multimedia
>messages penetrating the obscure world of Windows-based mail.
>The presentation will also include a review of the existing
>standards and a connectivity matrix.
They talk about "the new NeXTmail" interoperating with existing mail
systems. I would like to see a new mail application that confortably
handles all kinds of incoming mail (perhaps just a skeleton app that can
be expanded with filters), and is able to send multimedia messages in MIME
format.
Gregor
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From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PrintManager.app on 3.2
Date: 12 Apr 1994 10:24:40 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2oeav8$fjs@shiva.UU.NET>
Anyone try to setup a Panasonic KXP1124 on a black NS 3.2? I try to chose the
IBM ProPrinter 24pin driver and get the following error...
Cannot locate driver template.
What does this mean and how can I get around it?
---
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Technical Support uunet!mickey
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From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse)
Subject: FORTRAN for PA-RISC port of NEXTSTEP ?
Message-ID: <1994Apr12.162615.2737@alw.nih.gov>
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 16:26:15 GMT
Hello,
Does anyone know of any plans to make FORTRAN available for
the PA-RISC port of NEXTSTEP? Our group is planning on
buying some of the HP Geckos (712/80) and we would like to
run NEXTSTEP on these machines (which is supposed to be
available in May). Some of us (I know, the older
generation) program in Fortran. Even if we were to start
programing now in C or some other language, we still have
lots of old Fortran programs that we need to run and we
don't want to rewrite all of these. I know there are f2c
translation routines, but I would prefer to have a Fortran
compiler that runs on the Gecko under NEXTSTEP. I called
the three companies that I knew had previously made Fortran
available for NEXTSTEP, on either Motorola or Intel:
Absoft, Oasys, and NAG (the Numerical Algorithms Group).
Unfortunately, none of them seemed to have any plans to
port their Fortran compiler to NEXTSTEP on the HP. The
person at Absoft did not even want to discuss it (perhaps I
caught her on a bad day). The persons at Oasys and NAG
were friendlier, but basically said there were not
currently any plans for this port, both because HP already
produced a good Fortran compiler (for HP-UX) and because
the NEXTSTEP on HP market was (obviously) still unproven.
Does anyone know of any other sources for Fortran that
might consider a port to NEXTSTEP on HP?
Are there many others out there with this concern?
If anyone else wants to call and voice their desires for a
Fortran compiler for NEXTSTEP on HP, here are the phone
numbers that I used (I think):
Absoft: 313-853-0095
Oasys : 617-862-2002
NAG : 708-971-2337
I'd appreciate any suggestions that anyone could make.
Thanks in advance,
Gregg Dinse
919-541-4931
dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
P.S. I also called SAS and was told that they have lots of
Geckos, that they are great machines, but that there were
currently no plans to port SAS to NEXTSTEP on HP.
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Software Consortium
Keywords: Magazine
Message-ID: <Apr.12.12.46.07.1994.1442@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 12 Apr 94 16:46:07 GMT
References: <CnsK0w.303@ucdavis.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) writes:
>Proposal: All of the software distributors/manufactures could form
> a consortium/cartel an "power" select a magazine to carry
> their advertizing based on some agreements to with the
> magazine to pick up some of the writers and articles
> from NeXTWORLD.
This isn't bad. We could have a net survey. Which magazine do you want to
raid? a) infoworld b) macworld c) byte etc... Then everyone would buy
those rags, and all the next software guys would advert there. But for now
I suggest we wait and see how that new little next gazzette does. Maybe we
wont need more than that... On the other hand it would be cool to be seen
in another major rag...
Later, John
From: jammin@bantu.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Usenet on the NeXT
Date: 12 Apr 1994 16:43:03 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Message-ID: <2oej2n$79g@gilligan.npeg.provo.novell.com>
Does anyone out there have any pointers on setting up a usenet server on
ns 3.2 Motorolla?
Thanks!
Matthew Jones
mvjones@novell.com
From: nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I can't run Doom...
Date: 12 Apr 1994 12:35:36 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Message-ID: <2oem58$k2s@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Keywords: doom
I am having trouble getting Doom to run. Whenever I try to launch it, it gets so far and then dumps me out with an error about not being able to load PNAMES or something. I am trying to run DoomFAT on a NeXTstation. Any help would
be appreciated.
Neal Howland
nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Decompression problems
Date: 12 Apr 1994 12:41:15 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Message-ID: <2oemfr$kbc@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Keywords: opener gzip decompress
I am having problems decompressing large files on my NeXT. I am ftp'ing
from the campus Sun SPARCs to cs.orst.edu and downloading files. I then
copy the compressed files to IBM format disks using mcopy and transfer them
to my NeXTstation with NS3.2. When I try to decompress them (both .Z files
and .gz files) I get a checksum error. I checked version numbers of the
compression programs on both the Suns and my NeXT and for gunzip they were
both 1.2.4. Also, I only get errors for large files, like > 1 Meg. I haven't
had any problems with smaller files.
If anyone has any idea of what I might be doing wrong, or if something is set
up wrong, could you please let me know.
Neal Howland
nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: Charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Setting up www server on a NeXT
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:34:29 BST
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <2oepj3$86j@marble.Britain.EU.net>
References: <Co0GvK.MKH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> I just compiled httpd_source.tar.gz on a (black) NeXT with no problems.
> You just have to edit the Makefile, and look and some config files.
> Also, you might try looking at http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ for
> installation instructions, if you already have mosaic.
>
Did you get any probs with putenv() with ncsa_httpd?
C.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Usenet on the NeXT
Date: 12 Apr 1994 19:17:58 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2oeokm$br9@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2oej2n$79g@gilligan.npeg.provo.novell.com>
jammin@bantu.com wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>Does anyone out there have any pointers on setting up a usenet server on
>ns 3.2 Motorolla?
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>Matthew Jones
>mvjones@novell.com
Depends what you mean by usenet server.
I'm running INN1.4 under NS3.2 Moto... Others are running C-News
/Performance with NNTP too.
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From: mc2@SanDiegoCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox)
Subject: Re: coXist, mouseX, cub'X (was Re: CoXist or MouseX?)
Message-ID: <1994Apr12.192803.7612@SanDiegoCA.ncr.com>
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of AT&T.
References: <2oc5tf$f3e@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:28:03 GMT
In article <2oc5tf$f3e@agate.berkeley.edu> cooncat@gershwin.mills.edu writes:
>>I'd love to see a comparison also. I'm leaning towards Cub'X, but I
>>really wish there had been a standard PC-magazine style head-to-head
>>article in NeXTWORLD about them or that someone on the net who had
>>access to both would just tell us the situation.
>--
>
>I've recieved literature from co-Xist that claims they are rated tops by
>NeXTworld.
>
>I think if such a comparison is done, it is important to distinguish
>whether the software takes over the Next windowing system or runs
>alongside it.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Jessica L. Mosher
>Mills College
>Oakland, CA USA
>
See March 1993 UNIXWORLD. They compare Cub'X, Co-Xist, and Exodus.
Does mouseX work on white hardware???
--
--Mike \ "Better than most,
mc2@sparc.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM / not as good as some..." - Mr KFI
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: coXist, mouseX, Cub'X-Window (was Re: CoXist or MouseX?)
Date: 12 Apr 1994 21:58:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2of5ia$3hs@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Apr12.192803.7612@SanDiegoCA.ncr.com>
In article <1994Apr12.192803.7612@SanDiegoCA.ncr.com>
mc2@SanDiegoCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox) writes:
> In article <2oc5tf$f3e@agate.berkeley.edu> cooncat@gershwin.mills.edu
writes:
> >>I'd love to see a comparison also. I'm leaning towards Cub'X, but I
> >>really wish there had been a standard PC-magazine style head-to-head
> >>article in NeXTWORLD about them or that someone on the net who had
> >>access to both would just tell us the situation.
> >--
> >
> >I've recieved literature from co-Xist that claims they are rated tops
by
> >NeXTworld.
> >
> >I think if such a comparison is done, it is important to distinguish
> >whether the software takes over the Next windowing system or runs
> >alongside it.
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Jessica L. Mosher
> >Mills College
> >Oakland, CA USA
> >
>
> See March 1993 UNIXWORLD. They compare Cub'X, Co-Xist, and Exodus.
> Does mouseX work on white hardware???
>
> --
> --Mike \ "Better than most,
> mc2@sparc.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM / not as good as some..." - Mr KFI
--
Well, this article in UnixWorld
- Is old and no more accurate.
- presented an old version of Cub'X-Window with the last version
of Co-Xist at the time at that time.
- presented lots of missleading informations about Cub'X-Window.
- did not compared Cub'X-Window performances with the others even
when Cub'X-Window in its X11R4 version was about 30% faster than Co-Xist
last version X11R5 at that time. Which was surprising because X11R5 is
supposed to be about 25% more optimized than X11R4...
If you want to really evaluate Cub'X-Window and Co-Xist, try the demos on
the ftp site ftp.cs.orst.edu in the folder /pub/next/XNeXT. You'll find
the demos of Cub'X-Window and Co-Xist and the MouseX (which works only for
the NeXT computers... so no INTEL). You'll get the feeling by yourself !
;)
Best regards,
- Eric
Cub'X-Window Consultant.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: birk@artemis (Valerie Birk)
Subject: Re: ESPRESSO: A good product
Message-ID: <1994Apr12.194756.6021@logibec.com>
Sender: news@logibec.com
Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:47:56 GMT
Hello,
We at PSI have been following recent discussions in the news about our
ESPRESSO! Developer product. We would like to thank those who have shown
an interest in the product, and take this opportunity to clarify some
misunderstandings that have become apparent in recent publications and
subsequent posting to news.
ESPRESSO! Developer is not intended to replace the NeXTSTEP development
environment on which it sits. The ESPRESSO! Developer environment is a
tool designed to aid in rapid deployment of applications while maintaining
consistency in interface behavior. The modular nature of ESPRESSO!
Developer allows one to use as much or as little of the ESPRESSO!
Developer capabilities as they like. There are no NeXTSTEP development
capabilities that are unreachable in a program developed with ESPRESSO!
Developer. The ESPRESSO! Developer environment is an extension to, and not
a mask over, the NeXTSTEP development environment.
ESPRESSO! Developer is not the right tool for all developers. Some people
do not like development aids of any kind and are not in the market for
them. We have worked hard to keep ESPRESSO! Developer as flexible as
possible, while having it do a good deal of work for the developer. Of
course, there is a trade off between ease of use and complexity; were we
to make ESPRESSO! Developer as flexible as the NeXTSTEP development
environment, it would have to be as complex, and would have no utility
within the NeXTSTEP development environment.
It is our sincere hope that ESPRESSO! Developer will fill a need for users
who seek a tool to enhance speed in the development process . We have no
desire to make ESPRESSO! Developer a mandatory part of the development
process for every developer. Each developer must make a decision as to
what will best suit their development needs, and carefully measure these
needs against the capabilities and restrictions of ESPRESSO! Developer, or
any other development aid.
_______________
Professional Software is a NEXTSTEP Registered Developer dedicated since
1989 to providing and promoting innovative development tools for the NeXT
market place. Professional Software is based in Wakefield, MA.
ESPRESSO! and ESPRESSO!Developer are trademarks of Professional Software,
Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shayman@Trimark.com (Steve Hayman)
Subject: What does "Use Simple Mode" in Preview.app really mean?
Message-ID: <1994Apr12.210137.24701@trimark.com>
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:01:37 GMT
I have some .ps files created on a Mac; if I double-click on them,
Preview won't open them properly. On the other hand if I open
them in Preview having selected "Use simple mode" in Preview's open
panel, they display just fine.
(In this case, when I double-click the .ps, Preivew pops up an
error panel saying
The PostScript code of the doucment erroneously tried to
return values to the application. This error may result in
an incomplete image.
and then it shows me a blank window.)
I want to fix up these .ps files so they can be opened by double-clicking.
Can anyone give me a clue as to what "Use simple mode" really means?
What is Preview doing differently in "simple mode" ? Its online help
doesn't really say what "simple mode" is.
Please mail any ideas to me and I'll post a summary. Thanks.
Steve
--
Steve Hayman
Steve Hayman + Associates NeXTSTEP Consulting Toronto, Ontario
shayman@Objectario.com (416) 769-8995
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:25:43 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <EhemrrG00iV2IA0ZQK@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2oddq4$4h8@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 12-Apr-94 Re: Little
program to eject.. by Eric P. Scott@futon.SFSU
> Why don't you try that on YOUR machine before you recommend it to
> others.
It works fine for the context it was intended for. (If you can unmount
the floppy via the WorkSpace or a WorkSpace-based unmount request as an
alternative program suggested, then one should do so.)
> [Do the words "mounted filesystem" mean anything to you?]
Yes.
And if you cannot unmount the disk (when even logging out doesn't help)?
This method is preferable to using a paper clip to eject the floppy, is
it not?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent - I don't want a whole new Mail.app
Date: 12 Apr 1994 14:00:16 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2oe9hg$ppa@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <1994Apr11.110404.4451@prim.demon.co.uk>
In article <1994Apr11.110404.4451@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk
(Dave Griffiths) writes:
> In article <Co3613.Fu3@csn.org> rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
writes:
> >
> >In response to Steve Hayman...
> >
> >Eloquent is more than just a MIME-compliant mail app. It has a ton of
> >cool features. However, if you are determined to stick it out with
> >Mail.app, wait for Mail II (rumored to be part of NS 3.3)...It is rumored
> >to be MIME compliant. NeXT isn't going to goof on this one. They know
> >people want MIME.
>
> I bet they don't offer real MIME compliance, using the MIME standard for
> rich text, attachments, etc. I bet they just define NeXTMail to be a MIME
> extension.
Ding. You Lose. Markers will be collected in cybercash, thank you.
Empirical evidence contradicts this claim. They are doing a fine
job in MIME compliance. I use Eloquent to read and send from/to Pine, Eudora
and Sun Mailtool MIME messages. I also use it to read and respond to
Nathaniel Borenstein's posts on comp.mail.mime (arguably, the definitive
interoperability test). With exception of the MIME-richtext construct of
<\excerpt>, I have seen no problems with the Eloquent implementation.
Unfortunately, there is no way to send _both_ NextMail and MIMEmail,
depending on recipient's preference... I guess that is a bit much to ask.
> It'll be a hack anyway, just wait and see. :-)
I am coming to believe that while NeXTmail is a hack; a better hack
than MIME, at least in basic functionality of the MUA. MIME, however, will
be the tie that binds, and Eloquent is the best MUA I have seen for MIME on
any platform. Like Intel hardware, we will have to lose a bit of perfection
to gain broad acceptance, and with apps like Eloquent (and Intel platforms
like the Intel Pro/GX), these loses are acceptable.;-)
Unless NeXTmail rides on NS coattails into millions of homes and offices,
NeXTmail as a protocol will be the hack... just wait and see;-).
---
Geoff
____________________________________________________________________________
Geoffrey Brunkhorst Brunkhorst.Geoffrey@Mayo.edu
Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: Dennis Edwards
Subject: Digital Webster libraries
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.023728.8297@cs.wm.edu>
Keywords: Webster, libtext, libbtree
Sender: dennis@ar.cs.wm.edu (Dennis L Edwards)
Organization: College of William & Mary, founded 1693
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 02:37:28 GMT
I just received conformation from NeXT Developer Support, libtext and libbtree
have not been ported to NS 3. Although the "functionality of these libraries is
generally replace by IndexingKit in 3.0", they admit that "there is no
replacement for the webster interface."
If anyone knows of a good textual interface to NS 3's Digital Webster (that
doesn't involve these libraries), I would appreciate hearing about them.
Thanks in advance,
Dennis Edwards
dennis@cs.wm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman)
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.010344.1156@objectario.com>
Sender: shayman@objectario.com
Organization: Steve Hayman + Associates / NeXTSTEP Consulting / Toronto
References: <4heOLJK00UhBQ634x8@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 01:03:44 GMT
> Have your sysadmin install the following program as setuid-root:
>
> int main()
> {
> system("/usr/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0a");
> return 0;
> }
Yikes, no, don't do that! As written, the program above has a
major (and well-known) security hole you can drive a truck through.
You can exploit it to become root VERY easily. I tried it,
it took me, oh, 10 seconds.
It would be safer to use execl("/usr/etc/disk", "disk", "-e", "/dev/rfd0a", 0);
Steve
---
Steve Hayman shayman@Objectario.com
Steve Hayman & Associates, Toronto, Ontario
(416) 769-8995 NeXTSTEP Consulting
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Is there CSLIP for NSFIP 3.2 via FTP?
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.064355.18910@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2odjip$95q@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 06:43:55 GMT
In article <2odjip$95q@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk
(Robert Nicholson) writes:
> devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
> > I finally have my NSFIP3.2 up and running and need to get
> >connected to the net to feel like a real person again. Is there a
> >version of CSLIP available (Public Domain) via FTP anyplace on the
> >net.
>
> Tran SYS PNI on src.doc.ic.ac.uk in it's current beta state supports
> CLIP for free. The commercial one wont though.
Has Louis released it then? The last time I looked, it was on
cs.orst.edu, with a note in it requesting that it not be loaded onto any
other ftp sites.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent - I don't want a whole new Mail.app
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.064533.18978@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2oe9hg$ppa@fermat.mayo.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 06:45:33 GMT
In article <2oe9hg$ppa@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu writes:
> In article <1994Apr11.110404.4451@prim.demon.co.uk>
dave@prim.demon.co.uk
> (Dave Griffiths) writes:
> > In article <Co3613.Fu3@csn.org> rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
> writes:
> > >
> > >In response to Steve Hayman...
> > >
> > >Eloquent is more than just a MIME-compliant mail app. It has a ton
of
> > >cool features. However, if you are determined to stick it out with
> > >Mail.app, wait for Mail II (rumored to be part of NS 3.3)...It is
rumored
> > >to be MIME compliant. NeXT isn't going to goof on this one. They
know
> > >people want MIME.
> >
> > I bet they don't offer real MIME compliance, using the MIME standard
for
> > rich text, attachments, etc. I bet they just define NeXTMail to be a
MIME
> > extension.
>
> Ding. You Lose. Markers will be collected in cybercash, thank you.
Dave was referring to NeXTmail, not Eloquent.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Tape backup software?
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.064754.19036@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2odjac$nun@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 06:47:54 GMT
In article <2odjac$nun@news.acns.nwu.edu> mallen@nwu.edu writes:
> Hi. I just got a SCSI tape-drive as "payment" from a friend who had
inherited
> several hodge-podge pieces of computer equipement, and I was wondering a
couple
> of things.
>
> a) Will my NeXT/Mach and/or UNIX recognize this as a tape drive?
Who knows? (insufficient information given)
> b) Does UNIX have tape back-up commands built in or do I have rely on a
3rd
> party vendors? (Especially since this drive is for around 155 MB
tapes,
> and my hard drive is 340 MB.)
Yes. Look up dump, tar and cpio. Then buy SafetyNet :-).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: mark@oleander.cs.odu.edu (Mark Imbriaco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little program to eject a disk from the command line??
Date: 13 Apr 1994 03:46:34 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Message-ID: <MARK.94Apr12234635@oleander.cs.odu.edu>
References: <9404111646.AA12133@alleg.EDU>
In-reply-to: luomat@alleg.EDU's message of 11 Apr 1994 11:46:51 -0500
In article <9404111646.AA12133@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes:
> Maybe I'm just feeling inferior because I'm just a lowly regular
> user, but doesn't it seem silly to not be able to eject a disk
> without being a superuser? I realize there is a lot of damage which
> can be done with the 'disk' command, but it seems really foolish to
> lose the entire ability to do this.
>
> Anyone suggest a workaround for we bourgeois-users?
>
> Tim
Sure, in the Workspace menu, click on "Disk", then click
"Eject" .. simple, huh? :-)
--
---
Mark Imbriaco
mark@cs.odu.edu
From: gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Gianfranco Pocecai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group offers ftpmail service for NEXTSTEP Users
Date: 13 Apr 1994 09:40:56 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ogen8$4rc@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group offers ftpmail service for NEXTSTEP Users.
Ftpmail is an email->ftp gateway.
Just send your requests to ftpmail@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it.
It will ftp the files and send them back to you via email.
You can get the list of valid commands to the ftpmail gateway by sending
an email to ftpmail@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it with 'help' in the body of the
message.
The default ftp site is the Italian NEXTSTEP User Group ftp site.
There you can find a lot of MAB software + submissions from cs.orst.edu &
sonata.cc.purdue.edu + NeXTAsnwers + FAQs + images + sounds + OOP stuff +
MathPackages + Benchmarks + ...
And now happy mailing!!!
Gianfranco
--
Gianfranco Pocecai
President of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group
University of Milano - Computer Science Department
Via Comelico, 39/41
20135 Milano - Italy
E-mail : gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there CSLIP for NSFIP 3.2 via FTP?
Date: 13 Apr 1994 09:33:54 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2ogapi$544@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2odjip$95q@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Apr13.064355.18910@seer.demon.co.uk>
paul@seer.demon.co.uk wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <2odjip$95q@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk
>(Robert Nicholson) writes:
>> devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>> > I finally have my NSFIP3.2 up and running and need to get
>> >connected to the net to feel like a real person again. Is there a
>> >version of CSLIP available (Public Domain) via FTP anyplace on the
>> >net.
>>
>> Tran SYS PNI on src.doc.ic.ac.uk in it's current beta state supports
>> CLIP for free. The commercial one wont though.
>
>Has Louis released it then? The last time I looked, it was on
>cs.orst.edu, with a note in it requesting that it not be loaded onto any
>other ftp sites.
>
>Paul
>--
>Paul Lynch
>P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
>Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
>Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Gee I dunno, didn't the old PNI 1.7 support NS/FIP? If so
src.doc.ic.ac.uk mirrored it some time back but I not sure if it's
still there.
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: sigmund@rz-uxes.fh-konstanz.de (Ingo Sigmund)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mouse-x for nsfip3.2 ???
Date: 13 Apr 1994 11:26:54 GMT
Organization: FH Konstanz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ogktu$8tr@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
NNTP-Posting-User: sigmund
Keywords: Mouse-x nsfip3.2
A few day ago a read an article in the german Unix-journal UNIXopen about
plans to port Mouse-X to NSFIP3.2.
Does anybody know somthing about this plans ? If it's true , when will it be
available ??
Thank for your answers !
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ingo Sigmund
Fachhochschule Konstanz
sigmund@fh-konstanz.de
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: af@iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (Alain Fauconnet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: coXist, mouseX, Cub'X-Window (was Re: CoXist or MouseX?)
Date: 13 Apr 94 15:06:32 GMT
Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <af.766249592@iaka>
References: <1994Apr12.192803.7612@SanDiegoCA.ncr.com> <2of5ia$3hs@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Well, I wish to sound a more negative voice about the Cub'X product and
Intuitive Technologies. It *looks* good, it's rather fast but it is far
from reliable for a "real life" work environment. We're having frequent
crashes with various X clients (ParcPlace Smalltalk, Splus for example)
which work flawlessly on other X displays. These crashes leave the
machine without a visible mouse pointer, no known fix apart from
rebooting until now. (refer to my posting in c.s.n.m.). Although
integrating X and NS windows seems a neat idea, is it so buggy and
tricky to use (window move, overlap handling etc.) that we gave up the
idea. Current version we use: V4.0.
On top of that, we're among the `happy' french customers completely
left in the dust by the recent move from Interactive Technologies. They
had got an order from us for NS upgrades only a *couple of weeks*
before they moved and they did not only care to mention that oncoming
move. Since the french branch has been liquidated, this is causing us a
lot of trouble because of the partial delivery among other things. I
would definitely not consider them as a reliable vendor.
Disclaimer: this is my personal opinion.
_Alain_
--
Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM
Public Health Research Labs 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE
Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr (*no* NeXTmail !)
Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68
From: brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Setting up www server on a NeXT
Date: 13 Apr 1994 14:47:45 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO
Message-ID: <2oh0mh$3ie@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
References: <2o4vu6$1a4@cronkite.cisco.com>
Tracy Collins writes
> Hello,
>
> Can someone point me at info and/or software so that
> I can set up a www (mosaic) server on a (black) NeXT?
Yeah. httpd. Check the URL http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ for info about it.
It also has nice hypertext installation instructions. Follow those and you
should have no problems installing the server. I did it a couple months back
on my cube.
BTW, mosaic is not www. Mosaic is merely a www browser. I just say this
because I find it annoying when people refer to "Mosaic servers" and such.
There are plenty of other browsers out there, and as soon as OmniWeb gets
more stable, I probably won't use Mosaic anymore.
brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de (Ralf Neumann)
Subject: Send me pictures for /Local/Library/People
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.071717.7189@rafa.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de
Organization: DRN
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 07:17:17 GMT
Hallo,
After I installed the faces.tar.Z from cs.orst. I am missing nearly everybody
from the next newsgroup. I will be very happy to see who is writing so please
send me small pictures by NeXT-email. But take care that they are really
really small (hope not to get to much flames but sorry what's multimedia
without medias ?-) and from the size not bigger than 64x64 pixels.
Please remember: give it the correct name i.e.:
fuuu@grgrgrg.bla.com must be fuu.grgrgrg.bla.com.tiff
Thanks a lot in advance
Ralf
If I get enough together I will put them on an ftp-server and post where to
get them or send them to Carl Edman who is moderating the faces library since
a long time.
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From: brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent - I don't want a whole new Mail.app
Date: 13 Apr 1994 14:57:29 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO
Message-ID: <2oh18p$3o4@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
References: <Co3613.Fu3@csn.org>
Robert A. Wyatt writes
>
> In response to Steve Hayman...
>
> Eloquent is more than just a MIME-compliant mail app. It has a ton of
> cool features. However, if you are determined to stick it out with
> Mail.app, wait for Mail II (rumored to be part of NS 3.3)...It is rumored
> to be MIME compliant. NeXT isn't going to goof on this one. They know
> people want MIME.
Well, I'm in agreement with Steve, so maybe Mail II is what I need. I have
had the MIME/NeXTMail filters on my backburner for a whlie now. I just never
have the time. But I tried Eloquent once, and the interface just looked
really gross.
I like the way Mail.app looks and the way it works. I don't know if Eloquent
has had any improvements in appearance, but it looked like a gross GUI front
end to pine.
For now, I'll keep using pine for MIME and NS for other mail.
brian
From: sulkanen@pecos.msfc.nasa.gov (Martin E. Sulkanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there an inews for NeXT?
Date: 13 Apr 1994 16:30:00 GMT
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2oh6m8$s8l@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov>
Hello All,
I am trying to use Scott Anguish's Approved moderation software
for a newsgroup that I will moderate (if approved), but it
uses inews to post. I have been testing an emasculated version of
inews in which all - options are ignored (just looks for a file
in the command line to post). I've looked at cs.orst, but I don't
see inews specifically. Any hints as to where I may find it?
Much Grass.
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From: mark@ccc1.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HSD? Powerscan?
Date: 13 Apr 1994 16:56:20 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <2oh87k$5ab@news.tamu.edu>
Does anyone know how to get hold of HSD or the distributors of Powerscan?
Thanks,
Send email to mark@ccc1.tamu.edu
Mark
From: davidsen@vienna.hh.lib.umich.edu (Sue Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Lynx on a NeXT
Date: 13 Apr 1994 18:01:43 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Message-ID: <2ohc27$ehs@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Keywords: Lynx, WWW
Has anyone set up a lynx public client for their www server on a NeXT?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...NOT!!
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.180422.9363@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <2o06kj$3jb@news.csus.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 18:04:22 GMT
In article <2o06kj$3jb@news.csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
> Intuitive Systems has earned a distinguished place high on our
> "Companies NEVER to do business with" list, due in no small part
> to repeated bombardment with unwanted electronic junk mail, which
> did not stop despite repeated pleas that they cease and desist.
> Please do not respond to Mr. de la Tribouille--you ignore this
> advice at your own peril!
Indeed. Mr. de la Tribouille took it upon himself to make some wild
claims about co-Xist when I responded to a free demo offer for NUGs. The
Pencom folks were not amused, and refuted his claims. Among the claims:
many former co-Xist users have switched to CubX. So, let's here it:
anyone who has bagged co-Xist and switched to CubX please send me email,
and I'll post a tally. Perhaps I'll check with Pencom to see if they were
registered users, just to cut though all the hot air on this subject.
As for us, we just ordered 10 units of co-Xist. The demo worked well, and
there were none of the problems alleged by Mr. de la Tribouille.
Cheers,
-Nathan
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From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus Freehand (Virtuoso)?
Date: 13 Apr 1994 17:53:26 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ohbim$doa@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Apr13.131413.2802@corona.com>
In article <1994Apr13.131413.2802@corona.com> pkron@corona.com (Peter
Kron) writes:
> Just noted in the paper last night that Altsys (developer and owner
> of FreeHand) has filed suit against Aldus (who markets it) for breach
> of contract.
Could you have gotten the names backwards? I thought that Altsys marketed
the NextStep version of Freehand, called Virtuoso, under license from
Aldus. I thought Aldus was the parent owner of Freehand and had just
merged with Adobe. Who filed suit against whom?
-- Todd Takken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Is there CSLIP for NSFIP 3.2 via FTP?
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.183929.20104@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2ogapi$544@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 18:39:29 GMT
In article <2ogapi$544@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk
(Robert Nicholson) writes:
> paul@seer.demon.co.uk wrote in comp.sys.next.software
> >In article <2odjip$95q@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk
> >(Robert Nicholson) writes:
> >> devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
> >> > I finally have my NSFIP3.2 up and running and need to get
> >> >connected to the net to feel like a real person again. Is there a
> >> >version of CSLIP available (Public Domain) via FTP anyplace on the
> >> >net.
> >>
> >> Tran SYS PNI on src.doc.ic.ac.uk in it's current beta state supports
> >> CLIP for free. The commercial one wont though.
> >
> >Has Louis released it then? The last time I looked, it was on
> >cs.orst.edu, with a note in it requesting that it not be loaded onto
any
> >other ftp sites.
>
> Gee I dunno, didn't the old PNI 1.7 support NS/FIP? If so
> src.doc.ic.ac.uk mirrored it some time back but I not sure if it's
> still there.
>
src.doc.ic.ac.uk mirrors sonata, not orst.
Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Message-ID: <1994Apr11.235758.29221@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <schwettCo36Ip.IE9@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 23:57:58 GMT
In article <schwettCo36Ip.IE9@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com writes:
* I assumed that since everything about NeXTStep was so
* generally easy and profound, it would be a snap to add some
* more PostScript fonts.
* I figured on just dragging them into my fonts folder.
* Whoops.
* I am really sick of the fact that NeXTStep only comes with
* *two* useable PostScript fonts,
I thought the base system comes with Courier, Times, Helvetica,
Ohlfs, and Symbol. That's five.
* and won't even me use the * ones that are already in my
* LaserJet 4M. So I pulled out a CD-ROM (Corel Draw for
* MicroShaft Windoze) and copied a bunch of PostScript fonts
* from it. I copied both the outline file (I forget the
* extensions) and the metric file.
Probably PFB files.
* Then I looked at some NeXT PS fonts and realized that they
* were obiously entirely differnt. So I found that program
* (forgot the name, and I'm not in NeXTStep righ tnow) that
* converts pfb binaries to the ASCII Format that NeXTStep
* enjoys. After this, the fonts looked identical in format
* to the ones included with NS/i.
NEXTSTEP supports ONLY PFA format files. PFB files won't do.
* So I made a new folder called "Coolfont.font" and copied
* the two files into it.
* Of course, nothing happened when I restarted. Then I found
* buildafmdir, and I ran that, which, upon restarting, added
* the new font to my font panels.
* Yay!
* But no, I can't actually use the font. It tells me the
* format is unuseable.
* Does anybody know where I went wrong?
The ``Unuseable Font'' message almost always means there's something
wrong with the AFM file -- the font files are usually OK by this point.
Things that can be wrong with the AFM file:
o spaces at ends of lines,
o carriage returns at the ends of lines -- you DID change
all the grody DOS cr-lf sequences to UNIX newlines, didn't
you?
o the dreaded MS-DROSS control-Z as the last character of
the AFM file. Did you remove the control-Z? Everybody
who's been bitten by the MS-DROSS end of file convention,
repeat this mantra before retiring: ``End Of File Is A
State Of Mind, Not a Character''.
o Missing fields. Does your AFM file have the correct entries
for FontName, FullName, FamilyName, Weight, EncodingScheme,
and ItalicAngle?
o Incorrect Weight Field. Acceptable values are: "Ultra
Light", "Thin", "Light", "Extra Light", "Book", "Regular",
"Plain", "Roman", "Medium", "Demi", "Demi-Bold", "Semi-Bold",
"Bold", "Extra Bold", "Heavy", "Heavyface", "Black", "Ultra",
"UltraBlack", "Fat", "ExtraBlack", and "Obese".
o Character information count mismatches.
AFM files contain several sets of information which are
introduced by a "Startxxxxx nnn" line where the xxxxx is
the name of the section (such as StartCharMetrics) and nnn
is the purported number of lines of information of this
type to follow. Sad to say, many many AFM files supplied
by vendors and others are such that the actual number of
lines of data do not match the number stated on the Startxxxxx
line. When this error occurs in the AFM file, buildafmdir
emits a Parse Error message to the console and the font
will be marked unusable.
* Am I making life more difficult?
Any time you obtain fonts from oddball sources and convert them
using hacked together Shell Scripts, expect difficulty.
* Should I just suck it up and buy the exact matching
* equivalents of the 35 outlines included in my printer, that
* I have already paid Adobe for in the form of the HP PostScript SIMM?
Minor commercial plug. We, Trilithon Software, re-sell Adobe fonts.
We also sell utilties to convert PFB or Mac fonts to NEXTSTEP
format, and install them for you. Our contact details follow.
* P.S. I read in a programming book that the NeXT printer
* was a "dumb" printer, with the NeXT itself handling the
* rasterization and then sending a bitmap. Surely, this
* isn't how NS/i deals with PostScript printers, is it?
Correct. When you attach a regular old PostScripr ptinter to a
NEXTSTEP system you're then using the printer's PostScript interpreter
to do the rasterising, not the NEXTSTEP DPS engine.
Write To: Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone, [3000 Alpine Road after 16th April]
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 325-0767 [(415) 851-7901 after 16th April]
FAX: (415) 325-0768 [(415) 851-7902 after 16th April]
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Please excuse me for ... Lighthouse Design don t answer!
Message-ID: <Co7pv9.By@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 19:23:32 GMT
Some days ago I posted following question:
Does anybody know about LIGHTHOUSE Design. They now distribute WET
- PAINT from PINNACLE and they don t answer to e-mail. New address?
I want to excuse me for it, because it was a misunderstanding from me.
Its all ok, sorry.
Manfred
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From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 06:14:13 PDT
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.131413.2802@corona.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus FreeHand (Virtuoso)?
Just noted in the paper last night that Altsys (developer and owner
of FreeHand) has filed suit against Aldus (who markets it) for breach
of contract.
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From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP 1.4 bug
Date: 13 Apr 1994 20:35:27 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2ohl2f$jd2@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2o7374$9qa@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
gfin@loa.psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) writes:
>I've just started running a white NeXT at home, and among
>the little glitches that need fixing is one with version 1.4
>of GatorFTP.app. Although this program runs fine on my black
>Turbo at work, on my 486 at home it crashes every time I try to
>acquire a file with the Get button. I can log onto anon ftp
>sites and look around, but every time I click Get it dies just
>after switching to the progress monitor (piechart) display of
>the file transfer status. This message shows in the console
>error log:
>GatorFTP[280]: Assertion failed: Unlocking Focus on wrong View
>I tried installing a fresh copy of the program from the .tar.Z
>on cs.orst.edu, but the problems remains. If anyone has an idea
>about how I can fix/work around this problem, I'd be glad to
>hear about it.
Try deleting the .GatorFTP (Sorry, I don't recall the exact name) in
your home directory. This workaround works for me.
Tal Lancaster
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Send me pictures for /Local/Library/People
Date: 13 Apr 1994 19:19:46 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2ohd42$25l@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Apr13.071717.7189@rafa.in-berlin.de>
Will you please learn how to cross post.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus Freehand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.210617.7439@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <1994Apr13.131413.2802@corona.com> <2ohbim$doa@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:06:17 GMT
In article <2ohbim$doa@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU writes:
>>In article <1994Apr13.131413.2802@corona.com> pkron@corona.com (Peter
>>Kron) writes:
>>
>>> Just noted in the paper last night that Altsys (developer and owner
>>> of FreeHand) has filed suit against Aldus (who markets it) for breach
>>> of contract.
>>
>>Could you have gotten the names backwards? I thought that Altsys marketed
>>the NextStep version of Freehand, called Virtuoso, under license from
>>Aldus. I thought Aldus was the parent owner of Freehand and had just
>>merged with Adobe. Who filed suit against whom?
>>
>>-- Todd Takken
Whoa. Nip this in the bud right now, please. Listen carefully:
Altsys wrote FreeHand.
Aldus markets FreeHand under their name on the Mac and PC.
Altsys wrote Virtuoso.
Altsys markets Virtuoso on NeXTSTEP (and other non-Mac or PC markets)
Virtuoso is basically Freehand 4, and Freehand 4 is basically Virtuoso.
Altsys wrote Virtuoso/Freehand.
let's not start getting confused, folks.
I don't know anything about the law suit (although I'm interested), but
I don't want this misinfo going any further.
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there CSLIP for NSFIP 3.2 via FTP?
Date: 13 Apr 1994 21:55:58 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2ohm8u$39d@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2ogapi$544@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Apr13.183929.20104@seer.demon.co.uk>
Believe me when I say that PNI 1.7 is on that site.
That's where I picked it up recently. I know src.doc.ic.ac.uk mirrors
sonata since nobody currently mirrors cs.orst.edu. src.... don't look
like mirroring cs.orst.edu in a hurry either.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson)
Subject: What is a good book on Unix for a non-expert?
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.212538.2659@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:25:38 GMT
I'm looking for a good book on Unix. I have a couple already, including
the "Unix C-Shell Field Guide", but they don't tell me what I need to
know. The books I have seen in the bookstore seem to fall into either of
two categories:
1. They are written for someone who has an account on a Unix machine and
wants to do the usual file operations like moving files, creating folders,
use editors like vi or the mail, or write short shell programs.
or
2. They are written for newly appointed system administrators in large of
large machines with tens of users, who have degrees in computer science.
I am a mathematician with a NeXT computer in front of me. I like to ftp
public domain software like X-windows or newsreaders, but I have great
difficulty installing and configuring it, unless of course someone has
worked it into the NeXT Installer. Where, for example, does one put the
manual pages that come with the software? Or what is a makefile, and how
do I use it?
Basically, I need something which will bridge the gap, but be written at a
suitable (low?) level. Please let me have your recommendations.
Sincerely,
Bill Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson)
Subject: thankyou and another question
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.210918.1402@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:09:18 GMT
I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my request for advice
concerning which X-windows to get or buy ("CoXist or MouseX?").
I also need some advice on another little problem which has arisen. I use
Newsgrazer to read the news when I'm in my office in front of my NeXT, and
nn when I dial in from home. Last week our local nntp server was down for
a few hours. Since then I keep getting a message like "database has not
been updated in xxxx hours", where xxxx is now over 225, and of course
there has been no new news since then. By reading the manual, I see that
nnmaster is the program which handles the database; I also get messages
that nnmaster is not running. I cannot find nnmaster on my machine. Is it
possible that nnmaster resides with the database on the nntp server? Or if
it's on my machine, how do I get it running again? By the way, Newsgrazer
is working perfectly at the moment.
Thanks for your help,
Bill Anderson
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Why does root own Terminal.app?
Date: 13 Apr 1994 17:38:31 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404132233.AA16318@alleg.EDU>
I ran a 'ps -auxww | grep -v root' the other day on a remote machine
to see if the person was running terminal or not.
Terminal didn't show up, so I assumed that they did not have it
running. Well, then I noticed that they had a tty up, and so I did
this instead: ps -auxww | grep Terminal.app
The problem was that Terminal was owned by root, not the user. This
seemed strange to me and someone else commented to me that it "didn't
used to be that way" (-:
Anyone have an answer as to why Terminal would be owned by root?
Thanks
Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.223845.9656@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <schwettCo36Ip.IE9@netcom.com> <1994Apr11.235758.29221@trilithon.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 22:38:45 GMT
Followup to Henry's minor commercial plug. I bought his fine font installer
software, and have been happily adding PD Adobe Mac fonts to my NeXT since
last summer. Very nice, and I like to buy reasonably priced commercial
software when it does a job I need to get done. Support your local ISV and
all that...
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From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Funny NewsGrazer bug
Date: 13 Apr 1994 17:51:36 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404132243.AA16984@alleg.EDU>
In comp.sys.next.software article
<1994Apr7.182744.1689@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> you wrote:
When I have an open mail window in Mail.app (a message I am
composing) and I press Reply in NG, I get a new empty compose
window and all my stuff in the orignal compose window has been
replaced by the stuff from NG. Only the formatting (bold etc)
is still intact.
I've lost a bunch of "being composed" messages this way. There is a
workaround (although not a great one) which has worked for me.
Before you leave Mail.app, miniaturize the Compose window. Then when
you click on reply it will start a new window and not kill the old.
Tim
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus Freehand (Virtuoso)?
In-Reply-To: esprit@netcom.com's message of Wed, 13 Apr 1994 22:46:18 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Apr13192143@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <1994Apr13.131413.2802@corona.com> <2ohbim$doa@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
<espritCo7z97.1JJ@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 02:21:43 GMT
Alan F Perry writes:
Alan> Altsys and Aldus had a squabble that was settled before the
Alan> Adobe/Aldus announcement. The Adobe/Aldus merger puts Altsys in a
Alan> questionable situation since Adobe probably doesn't want to sell two
Alan> competing products and Aldus and Altsys weren't getting along anyway.
You're kidding? Did you miss those flames about Illustrator? About 40% of
the market for both programs feels *that* strongly either one way or
another. If you ask me, it'd be kind of silly to toss that much market
share away (those people are obviously not going to switch) to avoid a
little duplication. The two products are far enough apart that they could
be grown to cover two different market segments.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
Truth is a process, not an end.
From: dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X windows clients for NS/i ?
Date: 13 Apr 1994 23:20:37 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine
Message-ID: <2ohuo5$hno@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
I'm sure this is a FAQ or a flamebait, but has anyone compiled X11
for NS/i ?
I really there are more substantial issues with an X server for NS and
presumably that's what products like CoXist, etc are.
But why hasn't someone just compiled the large body of X client
software and libraries for NS ? Is there some technical issue I'm missing ?
I realize that having my NS machine as just an X client machine is
somewhat off the spirit of NS, but, nevertheless, it would certainly be useful.
Cheers,
Dan Ts'o 713-798-3331
Div. Neuroscience FAX: 713-798-3897
Baylor College of Medicine
1 Baylor Plaza S603 dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
Houston, TX 77030 tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: Future of Adobe Illustrator and Aldus Freehand (Virtuoso)?
Message-ID: <espritCo7z97.1JJ@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <1994Apr13.131413.2802@corona.com> <2ohbim$doa@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 22:46:18 GMT
In article <2ohbim$doa@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU writes:
>In article <1994Apr13.131413.2802@corona.com> pkron@corona.com (Peter
>Kron) writes:
>
>> Just noted in the paper last night that Altsys (developer and owner
>> of FreeHand) has filed suit against Aldus (who markets it) for breach
>> of contract.
>
>Could you have gotten the names backwards? I thought that Altsys marketed
>the NextStep version of Freehand, called Virtuoso, under license from
>Aldus. I thought Aldus was the parent owner of Freehand and had just
>merged with Adobe. Who filed suit against whom?
Altsys developed FreeHand/Virtuoso. Aldus owns the tradename "FreeHand".
The Altsys product was sold under the Aldus tradename.
Altsys and Aldus had a squabble that was settled before the Adobe/Aldus
announcement. The Adobe/Aldus merger puts Altsys in a questionable
situation since Adobe probably doesn't want to sell two competing
products and Aldus and Altsys weren't getting along anyway.
I haven't seen the details on the new Altsys suit, but it might be
related to the previous settlement with Aldus.
Does anyone have settlement details from the previous Aldus/Altsys fight?
Were they made public?
--
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds
alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and
esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: dang@pipeline.com (Dan Gookin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: UUCP and the NeXT
Date: 13 Apr 1994 22:48:20 -0400
Organization: The Pipeline
Message-ID: <2oiatk$3ue@pipeline.com>
Hi. I'm a relatively non-UNIX person and would like to setup my
slab (running 2.1) with UUCP and USENET. So how does a dummy
like me do that? I heard theres a company, possibly in New
York, that makes some friendly gizmo that sets things up for
me. Anyone have any more info? It would be greatly appreciated.
TIA.
DAN
dang@pipeline.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Disclaimer from Intuitive Systems, Inc
Date: 13 Apr 1994 23:22:40 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2oicu0$8cj@digifix.digifix.com>
Our news feed is temporarily down; Thanks to Scott for posting this news on our
behalf.
We at Intuitive Systems are very concerned about the recent discussion in this
news group regarding Mr de la Tribouille's allegations toward co-Xist.
Following recent incidents, Mr de la Tribouille is no longer a Cub'X-Window
Academic Consultant for Intuitive Systems.
We want to assure you that none of the allegations such as "many former co-Xist
users have switched to CubX" used by Mr de la Tribouille in his marketing
communications have never ever been suggested by Intuitive Systems, and we have
never provided any information that could lead to such declarations.
This also applies to a misleading customer references we have discovered has
been communicated. We are very proud of our customer references and want to
thank all our Cub'X-Window customers for their support of our product. We would
never dare massively communicate their names as a tool for promotion without
their prior consent.
In the name of Intuitive Systems, I want to express my apologies to everyone on
the net who has received these mails, and to the people at Pencom Software for
these aggressive unfounded attacks against co-Xist.
We believe Cub'X-Window is an excellent software product and use our best
effort to promote it.
Since its release in 1991, we've always focused our communication on the
qualities of Cub'X-Window, not on unfounded denigration of its competition.
This strategy has revealed extremely positive and we plan to keep it that way.
If you ever had any problem with Cub'X-Window, please contact us as we may have
already fixed your problems on Cub'X-Window v3.1 or 4.0. In the case your
problem is not already fixed, we will work to correct it as soon as possible.
Finally, despite these incidents which are now over, I hope that what you'll
keep in mind is the quality of our products, and the dedication of Intuitive
Systems to develop the best possible third-party software for NEXTSTEP.
Sincerely,
Claire Normand
Marketing Manager
Intuitive Systems, Inc.
P.O. Box 60849
Palo Alto, CA 94306
USA
tel : 415 852 0245
fax : 415 852 1271
claire@intuisys.com
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Date: 14 Apr 1994 05:58:05 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2oim1d$137@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <schwettCo36Ip.IE9@netcom.com> <1994Apr11.235758.29221@trilithon.com>
In article <1994Apr11.235758.29221@trilithon.com>
henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) writes:
>I thought the base system comes with Courier, Times, Helvetica,
>Ohlfs, and Symbol. That's five.
Ohlfs is not a legitimate font--it's just a hacked Courier.
[See /NextLibrary/Fonts/Ohlfs.font/Ohlfs]
-=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why does root own Terminal.app?
Date: 14 Apr 1994 06:01:33 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2oim7t$1ao@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <9404132233.AA16318@alleg.EDU>
It needs to update /etc/utmp and /usr/adm/wtmp, which for
security reasons should only be writable by root.
-=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X windows clients for NS/i ?
Date: 14 Apr 1994 06:09:35 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2oimmv$1j6@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2ohuo5$hno@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
In article <2ohuo5$hno@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu writes:
> But why hasn't someone just compiled the large body of X client
>software and libraries for NS ? Is there some technical issue I'm missing ?
Yes. X sucks. No sane person wants to encourage its use (unless
they're financially profitting from it, of course).
> I realize that having my NS machine as just an X client machine is
>somewhat off the spirit of NS, but, nevertheless, it would certainly be useful.
Somewhat off the spirit? There's an understatement for you.
Useful? About as useful as SoftPC. It serves to silence the
whiners and "media critics" but does little if anything to
actually empower end-users.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: silver@shakti.ncst.ernet.in (Silverline Industries Ltd.)
Subject: Looking for TCL ver7.3
Message-ID: <Co6wy7.2pn@shakti.ncst.ernet.in>
Organization: National Centre for Software Technology, India
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:58:54 GMT
Hello ALL,
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND (the ftp site ) for
TCL version 7.3 for intel processors ....
thanks,
rthasarthy
silver@shakti.ncst.ernet.in
From: Greg Notch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for a diesant editor for use with Mach
Date: 13 Apr 1994 02:11:44 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <2ofkd0$lgf@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <2o78ga$d60@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Matt Behrens writes
->
-> Hello all, I am a relatively new NeXT user and am curious if
-> anyone has any idea whereabouts I can find a *GOOD* text editor
-> that will run off from Mach (specifically, one I can use to dial
-> up the NeXT at my college and use over the phone.) It doesn't
-> have to be fancy, it just can't be VI! :)
->
-> So if you know any FTP servers which would carry this and have
-> a filename for me, I would be forever in your debt. Please
-> reply via email.
->
-> Thanks in advance,
-> Matt
-> --
Try emacs. You can ftp it from sonata.cc.pursue.edu or cs.orst.edu or compile
your own version ftp's from prep.ai.mit.edu.
-Greg
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can NSFIP be booted from OS/2 Bootmgr?
Date: 13 Apr 1994 13:40:09 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2ohapp$p4g@acme.gatech.edu>
References: <2odb7j$f5p@nic.cerf.net >
devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek) writes:
>Hello,
>I have NSFIP 3.2 and OS/2 2.1 loaded on different disks on the same
>system. Drive C is OS/2 and Drive D is NSFIP. OS/2 puts a bootmgr
>on the disk that allows you to boot from any drive with a recognized
>bootable partition on it.
>I sucessfully loaded each drive with its software. When I boot the
>system and select the NS drive it goes out and grabs drive D and
>loads the NS Boot program. The display even reads NS Boot v1.28
>and then hangs. I know the install of NS works because if I boot
>from the NS Floppy diskette and at the boot prompt type:
>sd(1)mach_kernel rootdev=sd1a
>Everything boots great...
>Has anyone done this? What's the secret???
>MTIA
>Jeff
>devildog@cerf.net
>Please Reply Via Email!
It's possible to do this..but I'm not sure if it's possible when you
have NS on your second physical drive (note: this is NOT the same as
NS being your D drive.. lettered drives are a Dos/FAT filesystem
artifiact, which was carried through in OS/2).
I have Nextstep 3.2, OS/2 2.1, and Dos 6.2 on my machine as follows:
Drive 1: Boot Manager partition (1Mb)
Nextstep Partition (403 Mb)
Drive 2: Dos Partition (180mb)
OS/2 HPFS partition (74mb)
I think NS wants to be on your primary drive if you're
booting from the hard drive.. So that might be your problem.
I have no problems at all with Boot Mangler ..er.. Manager :-)
handling my boots. In fact, the only problem I'm having right
now is internal to OS/2 (ie. once OS/2 is running) and that's a
conflict between my video driver and com port. So, if you change
your drives so that NS is the primary drive, and put boot manager
on that drive, you shouldn't have any more problems.
John
--
John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu)
===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
To me, boxing is like ballet..except there's not music, no choreography,
and the dancers hit eachother.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: RosettaStone.app (or equiv) for NS/Intel- Where?
Message-ID: <Co8H1p.9AG@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2o9v5r$rd7@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 05:10:36 GMT
Greg C. Foliente (gregf@fpl91.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
: I used RosettaStone.app to change dos ascii files to unix/NeXT files and
: vice versa in the good old days (i.e., when I was still using the black
: beauty ;~) I have since moved to white hardware (NS/Intel) and am in need
: of RosettaStone.app (or equivalent), where can I get one?
I use a good little FAT-binary program named Convert_TEXT.app, which
does exactly that. Also does it for Mac files. It's free.
Get it via FTP from cs.orst.edu or sonata.cc.purdue.edu
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Bar Code products
Date: 13 Apr 1994 14:34:00 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <2ogvso$i32@fermat.mayo.edu>
Can some kind folks bring me up to date on bar code software for NS?
---
_________________________________________
Paul Buckley
Mayo Graduate School (NeXT Mail)
Guggenheim 14 buckley@mayo.edu
200 First Street SW FAX 507-284-9349
Rochester, MN TEL 507-284-2065
55905
_________________________________________
"Applause is easy. Go out and do something."
-Audre Lorde, poet.
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opinions on Eloquent - I don't want a whole new Mail.app
Date: 13 Apr 1994 14:05:57 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ogu85$hkd@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <2oe9hg$ppa@fermat.mayo.edu>
In article <2oe9hg$ppa@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu (some idiot)
wrote:
> In article <1994Apr11.110404.4451@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk
> (Dave Griffiths) writes:
> > In article <Co3613.Fu3@csn.org> rawyatt@teal.csn.org (Robert A. Wyatt)
> writes:
> > >
> > >In response to Steve Hayman...
> > >
> > >Eloquent is more than just a MIME-compliant mail app. It has a ton of
> > >cool features. However, if you are determined to stick it out with
> > >Mail.app, wait for Mail II (rumored to be part of NS 3.3)...It is
rumored
> > >to be MIME compliant. NeXT isn't going to goof on this one. They know
> > >people want MIME.
> >
> > I bet they don't offer real MIME compliance, using the MIME standard for
> > rich text, attachments, etc. I bet they just define NeXTMail to be a MIME
> > extension.
>
> Ding. You Lose. Markers will be collected in cybercash, thank you.
>
> Empirical evidence contradicts this claim. They are doing a fine
> job in MIME compliance. I use Eloquent to read and send from/to Pine[...]
It was pointed out to me that I should have read this 1 more time.... I
misread the message from Dave Griffiths to mean the subject of his 'they' was
Arissoft and not NeXT. I hold judgement on NeXTmail II until it comes out,
I apologize to Dave and the community for the waste of time and bits.
-geoff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Is there CSLIP for NSFIP 3.2 via FTP?
Message-ID: <1994Apr14.092319.21984@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2ohm8u$39d@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:23:19 GMT
In article <2ohm8u$39d@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk
(Robert Nicholson) writes:
>
> Believe me when I say that PNI 1.7 is on that site.
>
> That's where I picked it up recently. I know src.doc.ic.ac.uk mirrors
> sonata since nobody currently mirrors cs.orst.edu. src.... don't look
> like mirroring cs.orst.edu in a hurry either.
It's in the submissions directory mirrored from sonata. I don't know who
loaded it, but Louis had a note in the package asking people not to put it
on other sites (as I said last time).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: markl@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Albert Markl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GNU-info and iX-Build
Date: 14 Apr 1994 12:32:10 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <2ojd4a$1g74@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
We've got a large amount of program documentation in form of GNU-info
files (e.g. regarding Emacs, gcc,...). I would like to make it
available for the Digital Librarian.
Therefore I think I'd need some kind of filter for the indexing with
ixbuild and aa application to show the info-file. Would be fine to be
able to follow links in that!
Does anybody know of such programs and how to apply them?
Thanks in advance
Al
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2ojdja$3ah@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Control: cancel <2ojdja$3ah@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: 14 Apr 1994 13:42:38 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2ojdnu$3bi@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<2ojdja$3ah@steffi.demon.co.uk> was cancelled from within trn.
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: UI observation / query.
Date: 14 Apr 1994 14:27:11 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2ojgbf$4ih@steffi.demon.co.uk>
As somebody who spends a lot of time in Edit I'm far too often
selecting "Print" instead of "Windows" when I want to move around my edit
windows.
Is there anybody who thinks that the Print menu should be moved below
the Services menu out of harms way?
It's really the only standard nonsubmenu in b/w all the other
submenus.
It's just a pain occasionallly because the print panel takes a while
to come up.
Now I don't expect this change to occur since it's not changeable
globably however, I'm interested in who else suffers from this
problem and feels the same way. I'd also like to hear the original
argument for positioning Print where it currently lies in the top
menu.
Or am I just completely uncoordinated :-)
IMHO: _ALL_ one action nonsubmenus should be grouped together and not
placed in b/w submenus.
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de (Ralf Neumann)
Subject: Re: Send me pictures for /Local/Library/People
Message-ID: <1994Apr14.103234.10839@rafa.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de
Organization: DRN
References: <2ohd42$25l@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:32:34 GMT
In article <2ohd42$25l@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert
Nicholson) writes:
> Will you please learn how to cross post.
>
> --
> "Kill files are for pacifists"
>
> (ASCII for text only messages)
I will, sorry!
Ralf
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*| ************ | Voice +49 30 / 321 78 84 | Fax +49 30 / 321 28 68|*
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From: pdt@athena.mit.edu (Patrick D Tepesch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ushare and uprint
Date: 14 Apr 1994 14:29:27 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ojk07$ler@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: printer appletalk ushare uprint
Our department recently pruchased ushare for the NeXT so that
a macintosh can use the NeXT printer over the appletalk network.
It works well except that every morning we come in to find that
the NeXT printer doesn't appear under the chooser on the Mac.
So, every morning the print spooler has to be restarted before
we can print. ipt has been less than helpful and our 30 day support
is over.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to overcome this problem,
please let me know!
Patrick Tepesch
Materials Science and Engineering Department
MIT
pdt@mit.edu
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Send me pictures for /Local/Library/People
Date: 14 Apr 1994 16:46:43 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2ojoh3$7lo@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2ohd42$25l@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Apr14.103234.10839@rafa.in-berlin.de>
ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>I will, sorry!
No need for apologies... Just remember next time.
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is a good book on Unix for a non-expert?
Date: 14 Apr 1994 15:01:55 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ojlt3$iug@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <1994Apr13.212538.2659@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Apr13.212538.2659@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) writes:
> I'm looking for a good book on Unix.
I like Abrahams and Larson, "Unix for the Impatient", Addison-Wesley. This is
appropriate for someone like yourself.
You probably want to pick up Peek, O'Reilly and Loukides, "Unix Power Tools",
O'Reilly & Assoc later on.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why does root own Terminal.app?
Date: 14 Apr 1994 13:41:22 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ojh62INNj01@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
References: <2oim7t$1ao@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Hello,
I have a question relating to the following
In article <2oim7t$1ao@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
> It needs to update /etc/utmp and /usr/adm/wtmp, which for
> security reasons should only be writable by root.
>
> -=EPS=-
I get the following errors when I log in
>opening /usr/adm/lastlog: Bad file number
>opening /etc/utmp: Bad file number
>opening /usr/adm/wtmp: Bad file number
I actually get this three times. I suppose (after reading Eric's message)
that it's because I open three Stuart windows.
Is this a bad? How can I fix this? I have tried a few things and
nothing seems to help. Actually, now that I think about it running and
fsck might help. I'll reboot after I log out, but until then does anyone
have any advice?
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Midiapolis
Date: 14 Apr 1994 18:38:16 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2ok2io$552@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Keywords: Calendar App
I am looking for a Calendar application. My requirements are (single-user
only):
* The ability to print calendars that have multi-day events
(banners, as in CalendarMaker for Windows--which I currently use thru
SoftPC/486---however, switching to SoftPC is SOOO SLOW).
* The ability to beep when an event comes up (or earlier).
* Silent (i.e., low or no CPU) operation in the background.
* Nice printouts.
* Nice user-interface.
* Low cost.
I understand Daytripper/Calendoscope used to do some of this, but I cannot
find midiapolis any longer.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI observation / query.
Date: 14 Apr 1994 17:55:44 GMT
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In article <2ojgbf$4ih@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>As somebody who spends a lot of time in Edit I'm far too often
>selecting "Print" instead of "Windows" when I want to move around my edit
>windows.
>
>Is there anybody who thinks that the Print menu should be moved below
>the Services menu out of harms way?
If its just Edit.app or a few apps that you want this changed,
you can use IB to edit Edit.app/English.lproj/Edit.nib to reorder
main menu items to whatever you like.
Obviously, I don't think there is an easy global solution which
does this for all apps in one shot.
--
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From: milov@uwlax.edu (Milo Velimirovic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for a diesant[sic] editor for use with Mach
Date: 14 Apr 1994 18:11:15 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
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In article <2ofkd0$lgf@mustang.alleg.edu> Greg Notch writes:
> Matt Behrens writes
[request for a text editor excised]
>
> Try emacs. You can ftp it from sonata.cc.pursue.edu or
cs.orst.edu or compile
> your own version ftp's from prep.ai.mit.edu.
>
> -Greg
Even simpler, type "emacs" at a shell prompt. emacs is included
with NeXTSTEP (I'm running NS 3.2; no claims made for prior
versions!)
Milo
---
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Unix Computer Network Administrator
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Icon Builder question
Date: 14 Apr 1994 14:50:28 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ok39k$6fn@acme.gatech.edu>
Summary: how do I set pel's to background color?
I was designing a new icon, but had a problem: I made a pel
white, with 0% opacity(actually, the entire border of the
icon, which is about half of the icons area, not just one pel).
However, the area still shows up as white when I use the icon
(not just in the editor). I'm wondering how I make portions of
an icon transparent (look at webster.app's icon and drag it around
on top of other objects).
Do I need to use black with 0% opacity? or what?
Thanks for the help.
John
--
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===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
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and the dancers hit eachother.
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From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille)
Subject: Re: coXist, mouseX, Cub'X-Window (was Re: CoXist or MouseX?)
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Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
References: <af.766249592@iaka>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 22:12:45 GMT
In article <af.766249592@iaka> af@iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (Alain Fauconnet)
writes:
>
> Well, I wish to sound a more negative voice about the Cub'X product and
> Intuitive Technologies. It *looks* good, it's rather fast but it is far
> from reliable for a "real life" work environment. We're having frequent
> crashes with various X clients (ParcPlace Smalltalk, Splus for example)
> which work flawlessly on other X displays. These crashes leave the
> machine without a visible mouse pointer, no known fix apart from
> rebooting until now. (refer to my posting in c.s.n.m.). Although
> integrating X and NS windows seems a neat idea, is it so buggy and
> tricky to use (window move, overlap handling etc.) that we gave up the
> idea. Current version we use: V4.0.
[..]
> Disclaimer: this is my personal opinion.
>
> _Alain_
> --
> Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM
> Public Health Research Labs 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE
> Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr (*no* NeXTmail !)
> Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68
--
What you're writing about Cub'X-Window version 4.0 is pretty strange.
I'm perhaps not a good voice since I've been a co-founder of Cub'X-Systemes,
and the Cub'X-Window Academic Consultant for a while, but like you've now all
read in the Disclaimer from Intuitive in comp.sys.next.software, I'm no more
officialy expected to speak about Cub'X-Window. Well, since we still are in a
free world, I'll still do it.
I've been using on a daily basis Cub'X-Window v4.0 for about 10 month on a NeXT
Cube developing under ParcPlace VisualWork SmallTalk without only one bug from
Cub'X-Window. You must do some pretty strange things to see those bugs Alain,
or is it a buggy NEXTSTEP or X application that could create those bugs ???
Best regards,
- Eric
A Cub'X-Window user !!!
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From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: Re: HSD? Powerscan?
Message-ID: <Co9MHo.4Hz@hsd.com>
Sender: dpeter@hsd.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
References: <2oh87k$5ab@news.tamu.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:05:48 GMT
In article <2oh87k$5ab@news.tamu.edu> mark@ccc1.tamu.edu (Mark
Doucet) writes:
> Does anyone know how to get hold of HSD or the distributors of
Powerscan?
>
> Thanks,
> Send email to mark@ccc1.tamu.edu
> Mark
Hello Mark:
HSD has moved to a new location (address below) to be nearer to our
new publishing partners, Metrosoft. Our email addresses have not
changed and our phones are forwarded, so getting in touch shouldn't
be (have been) a problem. Anyway, here is the latest info on how to
get in touch with us:
HSD Inc.
345 First St., Suite O
Encinitas, CA 92024
Ph. (619) 632-9700
Fax (619) 632-9702
Email: info@hsd.com
David Peter
dpeter@hsd.com
--
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
From: kci@teleport.com (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosaic under Co-Xist runtime??
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:12:23 -0700
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Message-ID: <kci-140494171223@ppp-004.teleport.com>
I want to run Mosaic and I was wondering what do I need to buy. .Co-Xist or
Cub-X, and do I only need the runtime, or do I also need the developer.
Last thing where can I purchase either of these packages??
--
Kornreich Communications
Steven Kornreich
kci@teleport.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Message-ID: <1994Apr14.224627.594@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 22:46:27 GMT
In article <YheIrRW00WBMA1ZjIv@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Apr-94 How to add non
>NeXT PS Fonts? by schwett@netcom.com
>> P.S. I read in a programming book that the NeXT printer was a "dumb"
>> printer, with the NeXT itself handling the rasterization and then
>> sending a bitmap.
>> Surely, this isn't how NS/i deals with PostScript printers, is it?
>
>This is exactly how NS/i deals with printers. It is a lot easier and
>cheaper to upgrade your machine than your printer. (By upgrade, I mean
>any of: getting a new version of PostScript [when NEXTSTEP became PS
>level 2 compliant, every NeXT printer supported PS level 2 immediately],
>adding more RAM, getting a faster CPU, etc.)
Charles,
Are you sure this is how NS/i deals with PS printers? With the NeXT
HW, you had a fast, synchronous serial port. I can't imagine shipping
rasterized images over a 19200 baud serial port -- it'd be terribly
slow. I thought NS/i just shipped ascii to the PS printer, unless
you have a NeXT color printer which operates through the SCSI port.
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BASIC for NeXT computers
Date: 15 Apr 1994 01:53:53 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <2oks3h$766@network.ucsd.edu>
Can anyone advise me as to where I can get a good BASIC compiler for
NeXTStep? I have the Chipmunk Basic, but it is rudimentary, and I
really want one that can do MAT commands on arrays. (I have several
hundred programs that I wrote for my old Prime Computer, which had
the best BASIC I have ever seen, but it won't run with NeXTStep.
Thanks for any help: I will really appreciate it.
H. Craig
hcraig@ucsd.edu
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Icon Builder question
Date: 15 Apr 1994 01:45:58 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Keywords: buy low, sell high, get hosed
In article <2ok39k$6fn@acme.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
writes:
>
> I was designing a new icon, but had a problem: I made a pel
> white, with 0% opacity(actually, the entire border of the
> icon, which is about half of the icons area, not just one pel).
> However, the area still shows up as white when I use the icon
> (not just in the editor). I'm wondering how I make portions of
> an icon transparent (look at webster.app's icon and drag it around
> on top of other objects).
>
> Do I need to use black with 0% opacity? or what?
>
> Thanks for the help.
Yes, black is nearly always a better color to take to 0% opacity. Go to
the menu, open Document -> New Layout.... Be sure to first click the Has
Alpha check-box in the New Layout Panel, then set the Background Color
color well to black, 0% opacity. (This is most easily done by using the
Greyscale Slider panel in the Color Picker - in the row of buttons above
the selector, choose the slider icon, rather than the color wheel or
Pantone - you then choose the Greyscale from among RGB, CMYK, Greyscale
and HSB models.) then start creating upon the new document. That document
will have a fully transparent background.
Cheers,
Steve Weintz
EthnoGraphics
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic under Co-Xist runtime??
Date: 15 Apr 1994 02:26:39 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2oku0v$lfh@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <kci-140494171223@ppp-004.teleport.com>
In article <kci-140494171223@ppp-004.teleport.com> kci@teleport.com (Steve Kornreich) writes:
>
>I want to run Mosaic and I was wondering what do I need to buy. .Co-Xist or
>Cub-X, and do I only need the runtime, or do I also need the developer.
>Last thing where can I purchase either of these packages??
>
I just uploaded the binary of Mosaic 2.4 to cs.orst.edu. It
should work under coXist, Cub-X, Mouse-X, etc. If you want
to compile your own copy you need the developer + Motif.
On the other hand OmniWeb.app is a very nice native NeXTstep
browser; you may just want to use it.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: UI observation / query.
Date: 14 Apr 1994 23:52:39 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
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References: <2ojgbf$4ih@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2ok030$49d@agate.berkeley.edu>
izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
>In article <2ojgbf$4ih@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>>As somebody who spends a lot of time in Edit I'm far too often
>>selecting "Print" instead of "Windows" when I want to move around my edit
>>windows.
>>
>>Is there anybody who thinks that the Print menu should be moved below
>>the Services menu out of harms way?
>
>If its just Edit.app or a few apps that you want this changed,
>you can use IB to edit Edit.app/English.lproj/Edit.nib to reorder
>main menu items to whatever you like.
Yes unfortunately every app today abides to the UI guide lines. This
is like the original PB hack though even though the change is trivial
you have this non-standard set up then. Perhaps there's call for a
MenuSubclass that allows ordering through the defaults database?
Yes that only will effect new app's though.
Hypothesizing for just one second.
As only the top level menu is of concern it would be pretty trivial to
do actually.
Like Window internally consults defaults for sizing/positing etc so
too could Menu based on it's Title. In the case of an App typically
it's App name. All the user would do to rearrange things is to
specify defaults based on the Title. The default entry would just be
an ordered by preference list of Cell titles.
Just a thought.
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From: axel@siggi.physik.tu-berlin.de (Axel Kilian)
Subject: Need X for colorstation with OS 2.1
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 06:31:39 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
I have tried to get it from the gnu ...
took me a whole day to load the heaps of Megabytes
..
applied all the patches ...
finally I gave up.
Probably it was a version meant to work with NS 3.x. Can someone tell
me where I find just a binary that works, or even better, post it??
Thank you.
Axel Kilian
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From: laroche@sig.enst.fr (Jean Laroche )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help needed!
Date: 15 Apr 1994 10:40:27 GMT
Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris France
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Keywords: Workspace
Hi!
We have a new problem with our next machine (running 2.1). It has become
impossible to login because the workspace manager crashes right after lauching,
saying: "internal error 11, try to save edited files etc etc etc" and logs out.
Has anyone seen that before? What could the problem be (it's not solved by
rebooting, it's not in the FAQ nor in the manuals).
Jean Laroche
Telecom Paris
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From: tmoore@peirce.con.utk.edu (Terry Moore)
Subject: Mosaic under CoXist
Message-ID: <1994Apr13.210809.5489@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Keywords: Mosaic, CoXist
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Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:08:09 GMT
I need to be running Mosaic (2.4 preferred, but earlier will do) under
CoXist for NS/I as soon as possible. Unfortunately (and stupidly), I
didn't buy the development tools with CoXist, so now I can't compile the
source from NCSA because (as I understand it) I need the Motif libraries
there when it compiles. If anyone has it in binary form, compiled for X on
Intel, I'd appreciate a copy; or if anyone would be willing to compile a
copy, I'll send them the source. I'll appreciate any help anyone can give
me on this.
I know that OmniWeb is an alternative, but it doesn't (as of 6.2) seem
to be there on Intel hardware yet. Part of the problem seems to be that
OmniImage isn't available for Intel the image handling of OmniWeb on intel
doesn't seem to work to well yet. I know this is going to be a great app
when it's finished and the folks at Omni are working hard on it, but I
need to give a decent WWW browser demo very soon, hence the need for
Mosaic.
Thanks again.
Terry Moore
tmoore@nightingale.con.utk.edu (NeXT mail accepted.)
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP 1.4 bug
Date: 15 Apr 1994 13:13:19 GMT
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References: <2ohl2f$jd2@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
In article <2ohl2f$jd2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis
Lancaster) writes:
> Try deleting the .GatorFTP (Sorry, I don't recall the exact name) in
> your home directory. This workaround works for me.
>
> Tal Lancaster
>
Yes, I've tried that, thanks. Works once (at the cost of requiring
you to re-enter all your config info), but after one or two uses of
the program, the problem returns. The filename is .gatorftprc.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
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From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: Re: BASIC for NeXT computers
Message-ID: <1994Apr15.083602.280@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:36:02 GMT
In comp.sys.next.software Harmon Craig wrote:
> Can anyone advise me as to where I can get a good BASIC compiler
for
> NeXTStep? I have the Chipmunk Basic, but it is rudimentary, and I
> really want one that can do MAT commands on arrays. (I have several
> hundred programs that I wrote for my old Prime Computer, which had
> the best BASIC I have ever seen, but it won't run with NeXTStep.
Yes! You are right! It's a great programming language. You can't be
proud, though; you just have to want to get the job done. It's much
harder to prove how smart you are when you write in UniBasic. I'm
constantly stunned by how smart people must be who get complex things
done in C! :-)
I have been a devoted user of Microdata Reality -> Prime Information
-> Ultimate -> Pick -> C.ITOH Pick -> ADDS Mentor Pick -> UniData ...
roughly in that order since 1978. Before UniData, Prime Information
was my favorite environment.
Now I use UniData on a variety of Unix systems, and VMS. I think it's
the best ever. (Note: I have never been on a VMark system). And I'm
impressed by some of the things Pick has done lately.
I would be delighted to have any one of these environments on NeXT. I
dream of an Obj-UniBasic.
Data General runs ads in Unix Review that recommend their
Multidimensional Post-Relational databases. I think they must mean
Pick/UniData/VMark (they support all three), and they also mention
NeXT. Maybe they could do something about this situation. I don't
know who to talk with there though.
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
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Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...NOT
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From: lichtner@swri.edu
Date: 15 Apr 94 17:35:03
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I would be curious to hear what applications people are running with
Xwindows. We have co-Xist and use it mainly for running ccmail from
a sun server. We would like to be able to run wordperfect (gulp!),
mathematica, framemaker and others, but so far I have had no luck.
What experience are others having???
..Peter
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From: brian@bugstomper.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Brian K. Smith)
Subject: Re: GatorFTP 1.4 bug
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Message-ID: <1994Apr15.235944.60286@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 23:59:44 GMT
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Organization: Colorado School of Mines
In article <2om3tf$kgp@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> gfin@psych.ualberta.ca
(Gary Finley) writes:
> In article <2ohl2f$jd2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal
Lewis
> Lancaster) writes:
> > Try deleting the .GatorFTP (Sorry, I don't recall the exact name) in
> > your home directory. This workaround works for me.
> >
> > Tal Lancaster
> >
>
> Yes, I've tried that, thanks. Works once (at the cost of requiring
> you to re-enter all your config info), but after one or two uses of
> the program, the problem returns. The filename is .gatorftprc.
> --------------------------------------------
> Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
> gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
I've had to do the same thing, but I found that you have to delete the
gatorftprc file before you run GatorFTP each time. This makes it annoying
because you can't save any ftp sites or login preferences.
Today, I was looking at Archie.app, and started checking out the ftp
support. I found that this app will do everything GatorFTP does plus
archie searchs. On top of that you can save a login name and password for
each ftp site. I'm going to start using this instead of GatorFTP.
Brian K. Smith
bksmith@mines.colorado.edu
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Raw graphics programming
Date: 16 Apr 1994 00:50:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2oncoh$4e3@agate.berkeley.edu>
I was wondering where the origin is in the graphics coordinate system on a
NeXT. I know that it's in the upper right hand corner on the Mac...
Also, is there something like a Toolbox on the NeXT? Is there specific
documentation for such a utility?
Please email cooncat@mingus.mills.edu.
Thanks for any info!
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jessica L. Mosher
Mills College
Oakland, CA USA
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From: s9uart@blackhole (Ried Thiel)
Subject: Re: Can NSFIP be booted from OS/2 Bootmgr?
Message-ID: <1994Apr15.164544.25146@almserv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: Fannie Mae
References: <2ohapp$p4g@acme.gatech.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:45:44 GMT
In article <2ohapp$p4g@acme.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
writes:
> devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek) writes:
>
>
> >Hello,
>
> >I have NSFIP 3.2 and OS/2 2.1 loaded on different disks on the same
> >system. Drive C is OS/2 and Drive D is NSFIP. OS/2 puts a bootmgr
> >on the disk that allows you to boot from any drive with a recognized
> >bootable partition on it.
>
> >I sucessfully loaded each drive with its software. When I boot the
> >system and select the NS drive it goes out and grabs drive D and
> >loads the NS Boot program. The display even reads NS Boot v1.28
> >and then hangs. I know the install of NS works because if I boot
> >from the NS Floppy diskette and at the boot prompt type:
> >sd(1)mach_kernel rootdev=sd1a
> >Everything boots great...
>
> >Has anyone done this? What's the secret???
>
> >MTIA
> >Jeff
> >devildog@cerf.net
> >Please Reply Via Email!
>
> It's possible to do this..but I'm not sure if it's possible when you
> have NS on your second physical drive (note: this is NOT the same as
> NS being your D drive.. lettered drives are a Dos/FAT filesystem
> artifiact, which was carried through in OS/2).
>
> I have Nextstep 3.2, OS/2 2.1, and Dos 6.2 on my machine as follows:
>
> Drive 1: Boot Manager partition (1Mb)
> Nextstep Partition (403 Mb)
>
> Drive 2: Dos Partition (180mb)
> OS/2 HPFS partition (74mb)
>
> I think NS wants to be on your primary drive if you're
> booting from the hard drive.. So that might be your problem.
> I have no problems at all with Boot Mangler ..er.. Manager :-)
> handling my boots. In fact, the only problem I'm having right
> now is internal to OS/2 (ie. once OS/2 is running) and that's a
> conflict between my video driver and com port. So, if you change
> your drives so that NS is the primary drive, and put boot manager
> on that drive, you shouldn't have any more problems.
>
>
> John
Here is document I received from NeXT. This can probably get you through
to accomplishing your task. What I did was modify the steps so that I
could use a floppy.
Good Luck
Using Two IDE Drives and Booting NEXTSTEP from the Secondary
Booting NEXTSTEP from the secondary IDE drive may appear to more mystical
than bringing in sacrificial animals and a shaman to yell incantations.
However, with a little perseverance and some guidance from this document,
you can avoid a these wild tribulations.
The first thing you'll have to do is install NEXTSTEP on the secondary IDE
hard drive. The installation program will go through its first stage
laying down the file system on this drive and when it has completed,
reboot the computer. Don't eject the floppy disk!
When the computer boots, it will load the mach_kernel off the installation
disk. At the prompt type the following:
boot: hd(1)mach_kernel rootdev=hd1a
Doing this will allow the boot to continue from the secondary IDE drive
and installation will continue. Upon completion, the computer will need
to be rebooted, but don't eject the floppy disk or the CD ROM disc.
At the prompt type:
boot: mach_kernel - s
This will boot NEXTSTEP from the CD ROM disc in single user mode. Note
that it will appear as if NEXTSTEP is about to perform the installation
over again, but rest assured that your work is not in vain.
After some time, you'll find yourself at a # prompt. Do the following to
mount the secondary IDE drive.
# mount -n /dev/hd1a /disk
Now you'll have to modify /disk/etc/fstab. Either use the vi editor to
replace the entry for the root device, or do the following and copy the
comments over later when you have the Workspace up.
# cd /disk/etc
# mv fstab fstab.old
# cat>fstab
/dev/hd1a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
Now hit Enter (or Return) and Control-D.
Next, you will need to partition the primary IDE drive. Note that
performing the following will destroy all data that presently exists on
that drive. If you have valuable data that is not backed up, stop now and
make an appropriate back up. Otherwise, let's continue.
# fdisk /dev/rhd0h
Create a NEXTSTEP partition of 7MB and a DOS partition with what's
remaining. Save changes and quit.
Lay down a NEXTSTEP filesystem and the necessary boot blocks on the 7MB
partition with the following.
# disk -i /dev/rhd0h
Mount this newly created NEXTSTEP partition.
# mount -n /dev/hd0a /part
And copy a minimal filesystem to it and modify to to boot correctly.
# mdir /part/usr
# mdir /part/usr/Devices
# cp -Rp /disk/usr/Devices/System.config /part/usr/Devices
# cd /part/usr/Devices/System.config
# mv Instance0.table Instance0.table.bak
# sed s/mach_kernel/"hd(1)mach_kernel"/ Instance0.table.bak >
Instance0.table
Remove floppy disk and CD ROM disc. Reboot.
# reboot
You may now reinstall DOS on the other partition.
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From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: Re: BASIC for NeXT computers
Message-ID: <1994Apr15.175226.795@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <1994Apr15.083602.280@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:52:26 GMT
Correction: the Data General ad about Multi-Dimensional,
PostRelational databases, referred to in previous posting is not in
Unix Review, it's in the latest Forbes ASAP, the one with the article
on the use of NS at Alain Pinel Realtors.
Forbes ASAP comes as a supplement to Forbes Magazine. It is an
excellent window into the evolving worldnet.
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: acs_goray@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Digital Ears Box
Message-ID: <1994Apr16.172214.4016@rivers>
Date: 16 Apr 94 17:22:14 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls
hi
i own a digital ears sound box ( was being used in campus music
studio ) which can input into the port labeled "DSP" the front of the
box has left and right channel inputs, and i understand that it takes a
44.1 kHz sampling rate.
the question is, how do i use it? for that matter, what
software talks to the digital signal port at all? i went through the
applications that i could find on the computer i was using, but
anything that had to do with sounds seemed to deal either with sound
files or expect a cd-rom
i am also posting this to .hardware, hopefully someone can let
me know what sort of application to use. i was hoping for a sort of
mixing board enviornment.
thanks, jason
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From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: PD SB16 working?
Message-ID: <CoDznA.9H4@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 04:40:21 GMT
Has anyone been able to get the PD SoundBlaster16 to work at all? It appears
to take up 2 DMA channels, 1 IRQ and a port address. Seems a lot,but I
don't get any conflicts, nevertheless I also don't hear anything!
The PAS NeXT driver seems to work fine for the PAS16 Basic, although I
suspect it slows down the system.
Is there a commercial SB16 driver out there? This is odd given the popularity
of the SB16 series. Even if one could get the PD version to "work", which I
can't, one still would not be able to record.
It would be nice to have some information regarding SB16 driver dates, as
it may be time to get anyother card.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (no NeXT)
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to *un-install* fonts?
Date: 17 Apr 1994 17:31:45 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario
Sender: Steve McCullagh
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2orrq1$ooq@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
I installed a few new fonts on my machine, and found one was defective.
I used the 'installfont' program from cs.orst to put the font in
/NextLibrary/Fonts (and /LocalLibrary/Fonts).
I would like to know which files need to be edited to remove all traces
of the defective font.
Thanks in advance.
Steve McCullagh mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
From: dario@voluptas (Dario Ringach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How good is Concurrence for scientific presentations?
Date: 17 Apr 1994 20:54:41 GMT
Organization: New York University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2os7mh$imb@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
I would like to get feedback from people that have used
Concurrence 2 for scientific presentations... How good
is it? Is it easy to import PS/EPS graphics from other
scientific packages such as Matlab/Mathematica/Splus and
add to them pretty text/backgrounds, etc?
Thanks in advance...
--
Dario
From: wjadams@hubcap.clemson.edu (William J Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: InstantTeX prob with nx/fip 3.2
Date: 17 Apr 94 22:59:44 GMT
Organization: Clemson University
Message-ID: <wjadams.766623584@hubcap>
I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.2 / fip and just got down the "latest version"
that I've been able to find of Instant TeX, and installed it. It
claims, in the installation package that it supports white hardware.
Unfortunately it wouldn't completely install, the program called after
installation (TeXViewremover.app) is only for blackhardware. I tried to
get around that, and it did install, but my computer said the programs
had been damaged. Anybody have any idea?
Thanks,
Bill D. Hippie Cat
ps. You can mail me directly at wjadams@hubcap.clemson.edu.
pps. I got the program down from cs.orst.edu. It was dated july 1993.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid)
Subject: Re: Bar Code products
Message-ID: <CoFDJA.CED@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Arizona State University
References: <2ogvso$i32@fermat.mayo.edu>
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 22:37:57 GMT
In article <2ogvso$i32@fermat.mayo.edu> buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley)
writes:
> Can some kind folks bring me up to date on bar code software for NS?
> ---
> _________________________________________
> Paul Buckley
> Mayo Graduate School (NeXT Mail)
> Guggenheim 14 buckley@mayo.edu
> 200 First Street SW FAX 507-284-9349
> Rochester, MN TEL 507-284-2065
> 55905
> _________________________________________
> "Applause is easy. Go out and do something."
> -Audre Lorde, poet.
I am also looking for a barcode app that will produce codes readable by
laserdisc players (esp., Pioneer LDP's). I explored Bar-a-Coda, which
works beautifully as a service allowing one to imbed barcodes within any
document as needed. Unfortunately, these laserdisc players seem to use a
nonstandard variant of the 5 of 9 code (I think) for their LaserBarcode
system. Moreover, they are not very generous with information about what
codes must be sent to the player.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Brad
--
W.B. Kincaid, Ph.D.
Life Science Department
Mesa Community College
1833 W. Southern Ave.
Mesa, AZ 85202
kincaid@next.mc.maricopa.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is a good book on Unix for a non-expert?
Date: 18 Apr 1994 02:19:19 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2osqn7$r2t@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2ojlt3$iug@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes
[]In article <1994Apr13.212538.2659@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
[]bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) writes:
[]
[]> I'm looking for a good book on Unix.
[]
[]I like Abrahams and Larson, "Unix for the Impatient", Addison-Wesley.
This is
[]appropriate for someone like yourself.
[]
[]You probably want to pick up Peek, O'Reilly and Loukides, "Unix Power
Tools",
[]O'Reilly & Assoc later on.
Another very good book for people who are getting to know unix and plan to
do more with it is "A Practical Guide to Unix" by Sobell. I don't have a
copy handy (people keep borrowing mine :) to give the exact reference, but
that should be enough.
It's a pretty basic, quite readable, introduction to standard unix tools.
And the entire second half is a glossary of the "standard" unix command
line tools, much better than man pages but just as easy.
Hope this Helps --- Tom
--
===========================================================================
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Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Chemistry Software? SPICE ?
Date: 18 Apr 1994 04:25:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2ot22t$9jh@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hello,
I'm in desparate need of chemistry software, in particular
ones which can draw Chemical structures like ChemDraw on the PC.
Also, if there is any other version of SPICE other than NXSpice,
please let me know. Help is appreciated. Thanks.
--
- Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley NeXTmail/email : tyf@soda.berkeley.edu -
From: tyf@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Wanted : Virtuoso/Illustrator Demo
Date: 18 Apr 1994 06:23:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2ot90s$lc2@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi,
Would someone be nice enough to NeXTmail a demo copy of
Virtuoso or Illustrator? All helps appreciated. Thanks.
BTW : Or is there somewhere I can ftp the demo.apps electronically
like ftp.adobe.com or ftp.alysis.com?
--
===========================================================
Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley NEXTMAIL OK and Preferred!!
Email : tyf@ucsee.eecs or tyf@soda + .berkley.edu
===========================================================
From: keithm@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (Keith Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Nextstep OS requirements
Date: 17 Apr 1994 02:40:06 +1000
Organization: University of Wollongong, NSW, Australia.
Message-ID: <2op4d6$g21@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au>
Summary: Nextstep OS requirements
Keywords: Nextstep OS requirements
I'm trying to find out the disk space and RAM requirements of NeXTstep (for
different platforms) for an article I'm writing about user interfaces for
a small non-profit magazine.
-So, can anyone tell me?
keithm@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: NS Help: Limitations from hell?
Message-ID: <1994Apr18.070418.14416@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 07:04:18 GMT
Is this NEXTSTEP Help a chunk of crap or what? I just spent what seems like
the last 50 years of my life working on a really cool NS Help layout. Obviously
I was under the impression that since I needed to use edit to build the help
hierarchy that the things that worked in edit would also work under NSH. Wrong!
No attachments other than rtf[d] eps and tiff will work. Damn!
Whats up with this extra-small-non-horizontal-resize-help-window? Damn!
In past releases the size of the TOC dictated the size of the help window...
What happened to that? Maybe it's because I cant seem to get the right TOC in
that damn help.store. Damn! Damn!
So to the man pages I went for this fancy compresshelp.
No manual entry for compresshelp.
Oh man, I'm pissed now!
Somebody tell me what's up with this...
---
Man, that needle was really
starting to piss me off!
Kevin Solie
Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Director: Kentucky NEXTSTEP Users Group
Software Engineer: Alternate Worlds Technology
--
Man, that needle was really
starting to piss me off!
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From: mjantti@medusa.abo.fi (Markus J{ntti STA)
Subject: compiling progams under NS 3.2 User?
Message-ID: <MJANTTI.94Apr18135240@medusa.abo.fi>
Sender: usenet@abo.fi (Usenet NEWS)
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 10:52:39 GMT
I recently purchased and installed NS 3.2 for black hardware.
I bought my NeXTstation used, and it had NS 2.1 Developer
installed. I'm not a programmer myself, but fairly often
I like to install PD stuff on my NeXT, so that I have more
or less the same Unix programs on my NeXT which I keep at
home and my SPARCstation at work.
NS 3.2 User does not seem to have a gcc compiler, though.
I found on the archives a thing called gcc.pkg.tar, which
I installed successfully (I think). Now, however, when
I attempt to compile something I am told that the link
editor ld cannot be found.
Did I install gcc in the worng place or something, or does
it not contain ld? Where can I get a working version of
gcc, or a package that contains everyting I need to compile
Unix PD stuff on my NeXT?
--
Markus Jantti | Department of Economics
mjantti@aton.abo.fi | Abo Akademi University
| FIN 20500 Turku, Finland
358-21-2511 127 (Home) 358-21-654 161 (Office)
358-21-654 497 (Fax)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: compiling progams under NS 3.2 User?
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 08:46:59 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Mhgc53200iV7Q1NSFP@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <MJANTTI.94Apr18135240@medusa.abo.fi>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.programmer: 18-Apr-94 compiling
progams under NS.. by Markus J{ntti STA@medusa
> I recently purchased and installed NS 3.2 for black hardware.
> I bought my NeXTstation used, and it had NS 2.1 Developer
> installed. I'm not a programmer myself, but fairly often
> I like to install PD stuff on my NeXT, so that I have more
> or less the same Unix programs on my NeXT which I keep at
> home and my SPARCstation at work.
>
> NS 3.2 User does not seem to have a gcc compiler, though.
NeXT's "cc" compiler is a modified version of gcc-2.2.2. To make PD
stuff that looks for gcc in preference to cc know this, do a "ln -s
/bin/cc /bin/gcc" as root.
> I found on the archives a thing called gcc.pkg.tar, which
> I installed successfully (I think). Now, however, when
> I attempt to compile something I am told that the link
> editor ld cannot be found.
Do you have 3.2 Developer installed? Without getting the Developer
packages, you will be missing various vital things, including ld and
header files.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: laroche@sig.enst.fr (Jean Laroche )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3.x versus 3.0
Date: 18 Apr 1994 12:59:51 GMT
Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris France
Message-ID: <2ou087$d2d@enst.enst.fr>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi there
We're still running NextStep 3.0 on black hardware, and we wonder:
1) What is the most recent system version for black hardware? Is it 3.2?
2) Is there a substantial difference between 3.0 and 3.2 (or whatever the
latest version is)? If yes, in what area (speed, robustness?)
3) Is the upgrade expensive (from 3.0)?
Thanks for any info on that.
J Laroche
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextstep OS requirements
Date: 18 Apr 1994 14:35:33 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2ou5rl$2qg@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <2op4d6$g21@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au>
Keith Marshall (keithm@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au) wrote:
: I'm trying to find out the disk space and RAM requirements of NeXTstep (for
: different platforms) for an article I'm writing about user interfaces for
: a small non-profit magazine.
:
For a minimum installation you can probably get away with 8MB RAM and
120MB hard-drive. This won't be very quick, and you shouldn't expect to
be able to run much more than 640x480 2-bit screen, but it will work.
Above that, you gets what you pays for: if you want 32-bit colour on a
1600x1200 screen, you'll need a LOT of RAM to get acceptable performance;
as with everything else in the PC world.
If you want to do development work (i.e. install the development environment
for NEXTSTEP), and include all the documentation etc. then you could
do with a minimum 400MB disk (there's a lot of documentation!).
If this is to be a standalone machine, add more disk space for whatever
will be user and app requirements. Note that whilst the initial installation
is a bit more than for a Windows-based system, applications etc. tend to
take up less space, and there's a lot more bundled with NEXTSTEP, so
your overall requiremnets wil probably not be dissimilar to what you'd need
for a workable M$ system...
IMHO...
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Subject: Re: NS Help: Limitations from hell?
Message-ID: <CoGI2s.130@tms-gmbh.de>
Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de
Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <1994Apr18.070418.14416@bMD.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:13:39 GMT
In article <1994Apr18.070418.14416@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes:
> Is this NEXTSTEP Help a chunk of crap or what? I just spent what seems
like
> the last 50 years of my life working on a really cool NS Help layout.
Obviously
> I was under the impression that since I needed to use edit to build the
help
> hierarchy that the things that worked in edit would also work under NSH.
Wrong!
>
> No attachments other than rtf[d] eps and tiff will work. Damn!
>
> Whats up with this extra-small-non-horizontal-resize-help-window? Damn!
> In past releases the size of the TOC dictated the size of the help
window...
> What happened to that? Maybe it's because I cant seem to get the right
TOC in
> that damn help.store. Damn! Damn!
>
> So to the man pages I went for this fancy compresshelp.
>
> No manual entry for compresshelp.
>
> Oh man, I'm pissed now!
>
> Somebody tell me what's up with this...
>
> ---
> Man, that needle was really
> starting to piss me off!
>
> Kevin Solie
>
> Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
> Director: Kentucky NEXTSTEP Users Group
> Software Engineer: Alternate Worlds Technology
>
> --
>
> Man, that needle was really
> starting to piss me off!
And thats not all. The support of bundles via addSupplement: was broken in
3.0, worked a bit in 3.1, seems almost to work in 3.2... And lots of other
shortcommings. This d... Help has costed me days!
Gerd
From: fliu@solo.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NSI panic with PAS studio and Adaptec 1542b
Date: 18 Apr 1994 14:59:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2ou78o$i5d@news.service.uci.edu>
My NS/I 3.2 with an Adaptec 1542b had been running without any problem for
several months.
A week ago, I installed a PAS studio 16 sound card and a NEC 500 3x
internal CDROM. Ever since then, the system started to crash rather
randomly. It boots alright (sometime with an error message:
ttysccc1 receive error 900 or ttysccc1 receive erorr 901, but it
runs alright), after a while it all of a sudden panics, and then I
had to reboot the machine.
The time between booting and panic is rather random, sometimes a few
minutes, in this case most probably I have Backspace running and
there is not a CD-ROM in the CDROM Drive. Other times, it takes hours,
in this case most of the time I did put a CD ROM in the CDROM Drive and
I probably did not run backspace.
Reading Nextanswers on the PAS 16 spectrum driver, I found it says
that on some systems one can not play sound with over 22kHz rate,
otherwise system may freeze or panic if one has and Adaptec card.
But I am not playing any sound, in fact at times I did not even install
the sound card driver.
Any help or clue is appreciated.
Thank you.
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
UC, Irvine
e-mail: fliu@uci.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Douglas Moore
Subject: Re: WriteNow questions
Message-ID: <CoGnz2.58x@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <2oc06c$d7m@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:24:13 GMT
Who owns the supposedly in the works WriteNow 3.0 for NeXT code? Did that
get transferred to WordStar also? Can we get them to complete it? BTW,
NeXT is featured prominentlyin the WriteNow 4.0 for Mac info panel...
---
Douglas Moore
172 East Sixth Street #2106
St Paul, MN 55101
612-227-3274
dmoore@maroon.tc.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Font Installer for NS_FIP?
Date: 18 Apr 1994 16:49:00 GMT
Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2oudls$t13@rain.psg.com>
I use to have it, but I must have accendently thrown it out.. Can someone
please email it to me..
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 18 Apr 1994 15:25:40 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2oumrk$mij@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online
NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Much of this information is also available using the World Wide Web,
<http://digifix.digifix.com/index.html>
NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online
---------------------------------------------------------
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving
the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon
as they become available.
NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online
---------------------------------------------------------
The NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is now available
for product literature and pricing from NEXTSTEP developers.
You can get information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
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cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: rhess@consilium.COM (Richard L. Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: coXist, mouseX, Cub'X-Window (was Re: CoXist or MouseX?)
Message-ID: <RHESS.94Apr14175448@consilium.COM>
Date: 15 Apr 94 00:54:48 GMT
References: <1994Apr12.192803.7612@SanDiegoCA.ncr.com> <2of5ia$3hs@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
<af.766249592@iaka>
Sender: root@cimshop.UUCP
Organization: Consilium Inc., Mountain View, California.
In-reply-to: af@iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr's message of 13 Apr 94 15:06:32 GMT
First of all, I'd like to say that I'm very pleased with Cub'X, but
that hasn't always been the case. I also had problems with Cub'X crashing
while running ParcPlace's VisualWorks environment and actually purchased
co-Xist to get around this problem. Later I discovered a series of patches
to Cub'X (for Black hardware) which fixed all of the problems that I had
experienced earlier. I prefer Cub'X because of it's adjacent screen
mechanism and have been using it for over 6 months without any problems.
The patches were marked v1.18 and v1.21 and were originally located on
cs.orst.edu's pub/next/submissions directory. If you're still having
problems with Cub'X, try looking for the patches or give Intuitive
a call. Hope this helps,
Dick...
+----------------------------------------------------------
WHO: Richard Hess [ Senior Staff Engineer ]
CORP: Consilium Inc, 640 Clyde Court, Mtn View, CA 94043
VOICE: [415] 691-6342
EMAIL: rhess@consilium.COM <-----------------[ NeXTmail ]
+
From: bhemberger@hamp.hampshire.edu (Ben Hemberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GatorFTP/Newsgrazer for Intel3.0??
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 18 Apr 1994 20:09:34 GMT
Organization: Hampshire College Ultimate
Message-ID: <bhemberger-180494160543@198.114.176.3>
Help me out here if you can...
I want to find a version of both GatorFTP and Newsgrazer that will
run on NS3.0 for Intel. I have found both on various ftp sites, but
I can't get either one to work...i can't unpackage them from tar
format, and if I do, they still don't run. Any suggestions??
TIA...Ben
benh@swell.hampshire.edu: NeXT mail
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Ben Hemberger bhemberger@hamp.hampshire.edu
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Now I see the secret of the making of the best persons. It is to grow
in the open air, and to eat and sleep with the earth." - Walt Whitman
From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is a good book on Unix for a non-expert?
Date: 18 Apr 1994 22:22:29 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BHILL.94Apr18152230@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
References: <2ojlt3$iug@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> <2osqn7$r2t@news.iastate.edu>
In-reply-to: tlm@ameslab.gov's message of 18 Apr 1994 02:19:19 GMT
> Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes
> []In article <1994Apr13.212538.2659@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
> []bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) writes:
> []
> []> I'm looking for a good book on Unix.
> []
> []I like Abrahams and Larson, "Unix for the Impatient", Addison-Wesley.
> This is
> []appropriate for someone like yourself.
> []
> []You probably want to pick up Peek, O'Reilly and Loukides, "Unix Power
> Tools",
> []O'Reilly & Assoc later on.
> Another very good book for people who are getting to know unix and plan to
> do more with it is "A Practical Guide to Unix" by Sobell. I don't have a
> copy handy (people keep borrowing mine :) to give the exact reference, but
> that should be enough.
Forget csh, use bash instead, and get Kernighan and Pike, which is
more insightful than Sobell. Anyway, I shouldn't be posting this, since
this thread belongs in comp.unix.help. --Brian Hill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: scooby@cis.umassd.edu (Rob Duarte)
Subject: REQUEST: Can you send me screenshots?
Message-ID: <CoH3Kv.FAu@umassd.edu>
Sender: usenet@umassd.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 20:57:59 GMT
I am doing a project on NeXT and I could use some screenshots in any image
format. I would especially like screen captures of NeXTmail and maybe
the NeXT logo? Thanks a lot for any replies...
Rob.
scooby@cis.umassd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson)
Subject: Help!! Installer won't delete MouseX
Message-ID: <1994Apr18.215946.26825@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 21:59:46 GMT
I found a version of MouseX called McGill-X.pkg which installed very
easily on my NeXTcube. It put a small file called X into my /LocalApps
directory, and thousands of files into /usr/bin and so on. Now I want to
delete it. The trouble is that the installer will only delete the X file
and its own entry in the receipts file, and leaves all the other files
intact. Does anyone have a solution?
Thanks,
Bill Anderson
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Another driver for BusLogic BT-445S SCSI Adapter
Date: 18 Apr 1994 18:30:21 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404190007.AA00341@hurka>
Hi All,
we know, we are late, but we decided to finish our driver for BT-445S
even if there was a driver from NeXT. Unfortunately from couple of
different reasons we were not able to do it sooner than NeXT. At this
time we think no one is interested in our driver, although our driver
uses BT-445S specific 32-bit addressing mode. NeXT's driver uses
Adaptec compatible 24-bit addressing mode. Therefore our driver is a
little bit faster on computers with more than 16 MB RAM.
What we think could be interesting to some of you, we would like to
use our experience with BT-445S to write driver for another SCSI
card, if there is a public interest. The most difficult would be,
which card select, and than get the technical documentation. We see
three basic possibilities:
1. Someone from NeXT would read this and tell us, which card to
select - lowest probability.
2. Someone from a company, which makes SCSI card, would read this and
decided they want NeXTstep driver for their card - also low
probability.
3. Decision would be based on suggestion of all of you, who wants NS
driver for your favorite SCSI card. In such a case we would like to
find a person (namely in US), who would help us to get the technical
documentation.
Also if there is someone, who knows BusLogic e-mail (we have only
snail-mail address), let us know, because when we debugged our
driver, we think we discovered a bug in BT445S card itself. We would
like to discuss it with someone from BusLogic and find out if we are
right and if they know about such bug. To calm all of you, who are
using 445S with Adaptec driver, this 'bug' occurs only in 32-bit
addressing mode and on computers with more than 16 MB RAM.
Any suggestions welcomed.
You could reply back to the newsgroup, but have in mind that we got
your replies about seven days later. If you want faster reaction -
use e-mail. Thanks.
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz - NeXTmail OK
Ondrej Cada
ocs@earn.cvut.cz - ASCII only
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 2 Librarian questions
Date: 18 Apr 1994 17:53:09 -0700
Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ova1l$6ds@darkstar.isi.edu>
A couple of questions about Librarian in 3.2 (I've recently upgraded
from 2.1).
I've got several megabytes of news files and would like them to display
their subject line instead of filename when listed in the results
pane. In 2.0 it was straightforward; you could add a few magic files
to control the description of files, and voila, it just worked. I can't
find any documention about how to do this in 3.0. It doesn't seem
to use the .descCommand that 2.0 did.
Secondly, what takes Librarian so long? I went ahead and indexed 14MB
of news files (without the useful descriptions). If I search, it finds
the correct files immediately (so it must be using the index), then
spends 2-3 minutes listing all the filenames (directly above the text
entry box). I've got "In Contents" and "Word" selected. Searching in
the pre-made Developer bookshelf doesn't go through this silly file
listing.
Any ideas?
thanks,
--mike (carlton@isi.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
From: gap (Gernot A. Pohl)
Subject: V-LAN Video Apps
Message-ID: <1994Apr18.212354.2662@utata.wy.in-berlin.de>
Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl)
Organization: YW
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 21:23:54 GMT
What does exist in V-LAN Applications in the NeXT world?
I am lookin for some kind of editor, animation or whatever.
dimension exists.
solong
--
.. viel Spasz!
> Grisu Gernot A. Pohl grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de
\_/ alt.: grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de
From: dean@thrall.com (Dean Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Favor regarding Tailor.app
Date: 19 Apr 1994 04:20:54 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ovm76$lge@nwfocus.wa.com>
Help!
I need a favor from somebody that has access to Tailor.app. I need to color an
eps logo for a martial arts class that I attend. We just moved to a new place
and our instructor would like to place the school logo in the window and color
would be nice. Anyway, we do not have access to the original logo; just an eps
black and white.
Can I e-mail the logo (NeXTMail) to someone that would be willing to color it
for us. I played with the Tailor.app demo (way cool app!), but I can't justify
the purchase price, even the student price (at least not yet, I really liked
the app). It seems like it would be able to do what we want pretty easily.
Any takers? Drop me a line.
Thanks a bunch,
Dean
--
NeXTmail Please | More computer stuff!
|
dean@thrall.com | - My wife
|
From: nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do I set up MouseX?
Date: 19 Apr 1994 00:16:01 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Message-ID: <2ovpeh$17b@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Keywords: X mouseX setup
I am trying to set up MouseX on my NeXTstation and I am having some problems.
I ftp'ed the file X11R5-MouseX.tar.Z from cs.orst and uncompressed it to
create Xnext, Xnext.color and Xfe.app. Apparently these aren't the only
files I need to get X windows up and running, but there wasn't any documentationthat said what all I needed and where it could be found. Could someone mail
me a list of what software I need? I am assuming that all the software can be
obtained by anonymous ftp to somewhere. Also, if there is some document out
there that explains how to set up X windows, could someone point me in its
direction?
Thanks,
Neal Howland
nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: S_BAIER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Volker Baier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Update 3.2 still missing
Date: 19 Apr 1994 09:20:19 GMT
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p07oj$rpv@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>
I have registerd my NS 3.1 evaluation kit in november last year
and I'm still missing my update to NS 3.2.
I registered it to NeXT Germany in Unterhaching I think but I've lost
the adress.
Could anyone tell me what to do in this case to get the update soon.
( perhaps you have a mail adress or an e-mail adress to write to)
thanks in advance
Volker Baier student Information Science Uni-Ulm Germany
S_BAIER@RZMAIN.RZ.UNI-ULM.DE
From: ed@sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where are the sty-files that comes with NeXTTeX documented?
Date: 19 Apr 1994 09:11:46 GMT
Organization: Sogn og Fjordane Ingeniorhogskole
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2p078i$pcv@due.uninett.no>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Looking for Bar-a-coda software
Message-ID: <CoIA2u.J3w@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 12:16:05 GMT
Hi,
As the subject line says we are looking for Bar-a-coda software. Any
information would be appreciated.
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: +44 (0)702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: +44 (0)702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos)
Subject: C.Flemming's mathlink examples???
Message-ID: <CoIDKr.37r@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 13:31:39 GMT
Does anybody know where can I find Chuck Flrmming's examples of comunicating to
Mathematica with NeXTSTEP front ends? One of them If I recall is called
"Derivative".
The main machine at Allegheny college (pellns.alleg.edu) is "unreachable" from
the net and e-mail to Chuck dissapears, so I am looking for alternative sites.
Also, if you know of any other applications (with source) that talk to
Mathematica with or without using MLink please drop me a line.
Waiting anxiously for responses,
--john m.
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| Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil |
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| A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts |
| swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of |
| research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.|
| Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Another driver for BusLogic BT-445S SCSI Adapter
Message-ID: <1994Apr19.065128.3150@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <9404190007.AA00341@hurka>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 06:51:28 GMT
In article <9404190007.AA00341@hurka> tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
writes:
> 3. Decision would be based on suggestion of all of you, who wants NS
> driver for your favorite SCSI card. In such a case we would like to
> find a person (namely in US), who would help us to get the technical
> documentation.
>
I see the most requests for Future Domain.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Another driver for BusLogic BT-445S SCSI Adapter
Message-ID: <CoHzwI.2DH@tms-gmbh.de>
Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de
Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <9404190007.AA00341@hurka>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 08:36:18 GMT
In article <9404190007.AA00341@hurka> tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
writes:
> Hi All,
>
> we know, we are late, but we decided to finish our driver for BT-445S
> even if there was a driver from NeXT. Unfortunately from couple of
> different reasons we were not able to do it sooner than NeXT. At this
> time we think no one is interested in our driver, although our driver
> uses BT-445S specific 32-bit addressing mode. NeXT's driver uses
This native mode compatibility is enough reason for me to want the
driver! How can i get it??
Ciao Hans
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Archie and SLIP
Date: 19 Apr 1994 08:59 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <19APR199408594182@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
[Sorry if this is a repost or a blank post appeared earlier. I'm on VAX.
No wonder DEC has so many problems.]
I've installed Archie (gleaned from cs.orst.edu) on my 25Mhz 040 NeXTcube
running NS3.2. I use Louis Mamakos CSLIP to access the net. When I run a
Archie query, I get connected to the host server and then nothing happens
(actually, once I saw a "receiving ... 1" message). Is this a SLIP-is-too-slow
problem? [BTW my modem is 14.4 with hardware compression.]
Please respond to mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Don
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: Re: Update 3.2 still missing
Message-ID: <1994Apr19.133645.2130@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
References: <2p07oj$rpv@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 13:36:45 GMT
In article <2p07oj$rpv@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de> S_BAIER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de
(Volker Baier) writes:
:I have registerd my NS 3.1 evaluation kit in november last year
:and I'm still missing my update to NS 3.2.
:I registered it to NeXT Germany in Unterhaching I think but I've lost
:the adress.
:Could anyone tell me what to do in this case to get the update soon.
:( perhaps you have a mail adress or an e-mail adress to write to)
:
:thanks in advance
:
:Volker Baier student Information Science Uni-Ulm Germany
:S_BAIER@RZMAIN.RZ.UNI-ULM.DE
You are not alone
Many of the frenchs students who got NS 3.1 are in the same case expecting
NeXT to follow his promises. They'll not be as stupid as the UN expecting
from the serbs promises.
when will they get their Upgrade to 3.2
Gery
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Update 3.2 still missing
Date: 19 Apr 1994 15:34:59 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p0tn3$2g1@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <2p07oj$rpv@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>
In article <2p07oj$rpv@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de> S_BAIER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de
(Volker Baier) writes:
> I have registerd my NS 3.1 evaluation kit in november last year
> and I'm still missing my update to NS 3.2.
> I registered it to NeXT Germany in Unterhaching I think but I've lost
> the adress.
> Could anyone tell me what to do in this case to get the update soon.
> ( perhaps you have a mail adress or an e-mail adress to write to)
>
> thanks in advance
>
> Volker Baier student Information Science Uni-Ulm Germany
> S_BAIER@RZMAIN.RZ.UNI-ULM.DE
The NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1 Developer Evaluation Kit was and is NOT
upgradeable. NeXT ever says that !
Gerd
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig +
+ iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH +
+ Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany +
+ Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 +
+ Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 2 Librarian questions
Date: 19 Apr 1994 16:59:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p12ln$q0r@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2ova1l$6ds@darkstar.isi.edu>
In article <2ova1l$6ds@darkstar.isi.edu> carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes:
>A couple of questions about Librarian in 3.2 (I've recently upgraded
>from 2.1).
>
>I've got several megabytes of news files and would like them to display
>their subject line instead of filename when listed in the results
>pane. In 2.0 it was straightforward; you could add a few magic files
>to control the description of files, and voila, it just worked. I can't
>find any documention about how to do this in 3.0. It doesn't seem
>to use the .descCommand that 2.0 did.
It looks like they've moved this functionality to Service-based
filters. I've written one for indexing NewsGrazer articles for
DigitalLibrarian. So, the following should do it for you.
It also comes with the source, so it should be easy to adapt to
getting descriptions for other files whose filename or the first
line does not describe the content.
cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info
-r--r--r-- 1 nextstuf next-ftp 4670 Jan 30 19:11 NewsIndex0.93MAB.README
-r--r--r-- 1 nextstuf next-ftp 28901 Jan 30 19:10 NewsIndex0.93MAB.compressed
>Secondly, what takes Librarian so long? I went ahead and indexed 14MB
>of news files (without the useful descriptions). If I search, it finds
>the correct files immediately (so it must be using the index), then
>spends 2-3 minutes listing all the filenames (directly above the text
>entry box). I've got "In Contents" and "Word" selected. Searching in
>the pre-made Developer bookshelf doesn't go through this silly file
>listing.
This can be avoided by using the '-s' option in the first ixbuild.
Delete .index.store, and redo, "ixbuild -fgs -LEnglish ." in the
directory.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT and MIME mails OK)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dig Librarian (3.2) pushes search word to pasteboard for every search
Date: 19 Apr 1994 17:10:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p13b2$q63@agate.berkeley.edu>
It looks like every time you press the search button in DL, it
pushes the key words onto the pasteboard. This must be a bug
as I can't see why that would be useful.
This probably also has to do with why Igor.app that comes with AFS
WriteUp gets launched on the first press of the search button in
DL.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT and MIME mails OK)
From: unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu (Cem Unsal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica problem [rich-text format!!]
Date: 19 Apr 1994 18:12:10 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <2p16tr$fku@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Here is what I have for the last 10- minutes:
I know that this calculation should take less than a minute :) Does
anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Machine: NeXTstation TUrbo
Mathematica: 2.0
NeXTStep: 3.1
--
Cem Unsal
e-mail: unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu (NeXTmail OK)
www: http://armyant.ee.vt.edu/unsalWWW/user-unsal.html
"Adesso che ho perso la vista, ci vedo meglio di piu."
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quicktime Movie Player available for NS_FIP??
Date: 19 Apr 1994 17:28:57 GMT
Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p14cp$aa5@rain.psg.com>
Is there a Quicktime compatable movie player available for NS_FIP?
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: nsv@fct.unl.pt (Nuno Viegas)
Subject: Problem with ZZVolume Demo
Message-ID: <1994Apr19.174403.22629@fct.unl.pt>
Sender: news@fct.unl.pt (USENET News System)
Organization: F.C.T.-Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 17:44:03 GMT
I've downloaded the ZZVolume demo and proceded with it's installation.
however, when i run the app, it sends some errors to the Console, and
dont't finish the initialization. I'm running NS 3.0.
Can anybody help me ?
the Console looks like this:
Apr 19 19:41:09 literal ZZVolume1.5[5768]: Error loading
/tmp/ZZVolume1.5.app/Actors.bundle/Actors
Apr 19 19:41:10 literal ZZVolume1.5[5768]: rld():
/tmp/ZZVolume1.5.app/Actors.bundle/Actors bad magic number (not a Mach-O file)
Apr 19 19:41:10 literal ZZVolume1.5[5768]: Error loading
/tmp/ZZVolume1.5.app/Actors.bundle/Actors
Apr 19 19:41:10 literal ZZVolume1.5[5768]: rld():
/tmp/ZZVolume1.5.app/Actors.bundle/Actors bad magic number (not a Mach-O file)
Apr 19 19:41:10 literal ZZVolume1.5[5768]: Error loading
/tmp/ZZVolume1.5.app/Actors.bundle/Actors
Apr 19 19:41:10 literal ZZVolume1.5[5768]: rld():
/tmp/ZZVolume1.5.app/Actors.bundle/Actors bad magic number (not a Mach-O file)
Apr 19 19:41:10 literal ZZVolume1.5[5768]: objc: FREED(id): message free sent
to freed object=0x1059e4
PS: I had similar problems with 3D Reality demo.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: Dig Librarian (3.2) pushes search word to pasteboard for every search
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <CoIqM3.ouo@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:13:15 GMT
References: <2p13b2$q63@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
In article <2p13b2$q63@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>It looks like every time you press the search button in DL, it
>pushes the key words onto the pasteboard. This must be a bug
>as I can't see why that would be useful.
>
Hmm. That doesn't seem to be happening here. I wish that DL
would place searches onto the Find pboard, however. It does this for
searches from the Find Panel (wihin a single document) but not for
searches done on targets.
Rob
--
| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
| "Look up, Hannah. The clouds are lifting." NeXT Mail accepted
--
From: unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu (Cem Unsal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica problem (solved :)
Date: 19 Apr 1994 18:48:02 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <2p1912$geo@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In comp.sys.next.software article <2p17uq$ber@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Hal.Varian@umich.edu wrote:
>My guess is that you haven't called up WRI to get the password to enable
>Mathematica on your machine. Or the mathpass file got clobbered somehow...
Yes, I checked all related directories, and found a problem with mathpass file
in blabla/Kernel/NeXT directory. It's OK now... Thanks...
Cem Unsal
From: dhsmith@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Update 3.2 still missing
Date: 19 Apr 1994 17:51:55 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2p15nr$bi3@rosie.next.com>
References: <1994Apr19.133645.2130@ares.fdn.org>
In article <1994Apr19.133645.2130@ares.fdn.org> gery@ares.fdn.org
(Gery Divry) writes:
#In article <2p07oj$rpv@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>
S_BAIER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de
#(Volker Baier) writes:
#:I have registerd my NS 3.1 evaluation kit in november last year
#:and I'm still missing my update to NS 3.2.
#:I registered it to NeXT Germany in Unterhaching I think but I've
lost
#:the adress.
#:Could anyone tell me what to do in this case to get the update
soon.
#:( perhaps you have a mail adress or an e-mail adress to write
to)
#:
#:thanks in advance
#:
#:Volker Baier student Information Science Uni-Ulm Germany
#:S_BAIER@RZMAIN.RZ.UNI-ULM.DE
#
#
#You are not alone
#
#Many of the frenchs students who got NS 3.1 are in the same case
expecting
#NeXT to follow his promises. They'll not be as stupid as the UN
expecting
#from the serbs promises.
#
#when will they get their Upgrade to 3.2
#
#Gery
Though NeXT has posted this a couple of times, it seems that
you must have missed it.... If you have not received your
upgrade to 3.2 please contact NeXT immediately by sending email
upgradestatus@next.com along with your name, mailing address,
phone number, and email address.
Also, you need to include the serial numbers of both User and
Developer versions.
Darren Smith
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help!! Installer won't delete MouseX
Date: 19 Apr 1994 17:53:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p15rl$90o@hub.ucsb.edu>
References: <1994Apr18.215946.26825@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Apr18.215946.26825@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) writes:
] I found a version of MouseX called McGill-X.pkg which installed very
] easily on my NeXTcube. It put a small file called X into my /LocalApps
] directory, and thousands of files into /usr/bin and so on. Now I want to
] delete it. The trouble is that the installer will only delete the X file
] and its own entry in the receipts file, and leaves all the other files
] intact. Does anyone have a solution?
]
] Thanks,
]
] Bill Anderson
You are stuck. That version is ancient, and the pkg is faulty. It should not
have put anything in /usr/bin besides either a symbolic link called 'X11', or a
subdirectory of the same name. Here is a complete listing of my X binary
files. You can delete any of these that you find:
X@ imake-* tvtwm* xdpyinfo* xmh*
XNextPaste* listres* twm* xedit* xmkmf*
Xnext* lndir* vdcomp* xev* xmodmap*
Xnext.color* makedepend* viewres* xeyes* xmsg*
ad2c* maze* vtwm* xfd* xnetload*
appres* mkdirhier* x11perf* xfontsel* xon*
atobm* mkfontdir* x11perfcomp* xgas* xpr*
auto_box* mosaic* xarchie* xgc* xprop*
bdftopcf* muncher* xauth* xhost* xrdb*
bdftosnf* oclock* xbiff* xinit* xrefresh*
beach_ball* olwm* xcalc* xkill* xrn*
bggen* plaid* xclipboard* xload* xset*
bitmap* plb@ xclock* xlock* xsetroot*
bmtoa* plbpex* xcmap* xlogo* xshowcmap*
editres* puzzle* xcmsdb* xlogout* xstdcmap*
fs* resize* xcmstest* xlsatoms* xterm*
fsinfo* showcurs* xcolors* xlsclients* xv*
fslsfonts* showfont* xconsole* xlsfonts* xwd*
fstobdf* showrgb* xcutsel* xlswins* xwininfo*
gwm* showsnf* xditview* xmag* xwud*
ico* startx* xdm* xman* xxgdb*
imake* sxpm* xdpr* xmessage*
If you want a better version of Mouse-X, grab it off of foxtrot.ucsb.edu. It
isnt a package, but it is easy to manage and remove.
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica problem [rich-text format!!]
Date: 19 Apr 1994 18:29:46 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p17uq$ber@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <2p16tr$fku@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In article <2p16tr$fku@solaris.cc.vt.edu> unsal@blackbox.cl.ee.vt.edu
(Cem Unsal) writes:
Here is what I have for the last 10- minutes:
I know that this calculation should take less than a minute :) Does
anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Machine: NeXTstation TUrbo
Mathematica: 2.0
NeXTStep: 3.1
--
My guess is that you haven't called up WRI to get the password to
enable Mathematica on your machine. Or the mathpass file got
clobbered somehow...
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
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From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: How do you remove a bookmark from omniweb?
Message-ID: <CoJ70I.G6z@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 00:10:45 GMT
???
replies >> comp.sys.next.software
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do you remove a bookmark from omniweb?
Date: 20 Apr 1994 00:38:38 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2p1tie$d58@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <CoJ70I.G6z@news.cis.umn.edu>
In article <CoJ70I.G6z@news.cis.umn.edu> klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu writes:
>???
>replies >> comp.sys.next.software
Edit the file ~/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jaime@afs.com (Jaime Guerrero)
Subject: Seeking info on ISDN connectivity
Message-ID: <1994Apr18.172437.2133@afs.com>
Sender: jaime@afs.com
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:24:37 GMT
Since a number of service providers offer internet connectivity using ISDN
connections rather than modems, and ISDN is dramatically faster (128 kbps)
and more suited to digital communication, I am investigating the its on black
NeXT hardware.
Does anyone have experience using the "Hayes ISDN extender for NeXT
computers" device?
The Hayes people tell me that device-driver software to use the extender is
supplied as part of NEXTSTEP. Is it still there, or is it a part of the
now-defunct (?) PhoneKit?
My specific application is to use an extender talking to an ISDN port of an
internet service provider (such as PSI) and use TCP/IP over that connection
to get full interactive internet services.
--
Jaime Guerrero "Verbing weirds language."
Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Springhouse, Pennsylvania, USA jaime@afs.com [NeXTmail ok]
From: laceller@phoenix.ca (Richard Lacelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: play3401 for Intel
Date: 17 Apr 1994 20:15:07 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: ontario
Message-ID: <2os5cb$216@relay.tor.hookup.net>
Hi
I am having problems compiling play3401 for Intel, could someone tell met
if it's supported by intel and if someone has a copy could they NeXTMAIL
it to me at calderd@ott.hookup.net
Thanks Alot
Richard Lacelle
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do you remove a bookmark from omniweb?
Date: 20 Apr 1994 03:27:21 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2p27ep$fa0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CoJ70I.G6z@news.cis.umn.edu>
In article <CoJ70I.G6z@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
> ???
> replies >> comp.sys.next.software
You can always go in and edit the Bookmarks.html document using Edit.app.
Assuming you are using the latest version of OmniWeb, this file exists in
~/Library/OmniWeb. The format is fairly understandable.
-jamey.
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From: sngmedia@world.std.com
Subject: MARKET SURVEY
Message-ID: <CoJIEz.vH@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 04:13:46 GMT
We are a small, dedicated group of people desperately trying to get
a video production company off the ground.
Recently, we secured enough financial backing to produce several
videos on the subject of personal computing.
Because we don't have the financial resources to perform a
traditional market analysis, we considered several alternatives and
concluded that we should consult the people of the Internet, who
are technically proficient and tend to be enthusiastic personal
computer users.
We would like you to indicate which three of the below described
videos would appeal to you most.
Please note that each video synopsis is numbered. When you are
ready to send your response, please specify the numbers
corresponding to your three video selections, and use commas to
separate the numbers.
For example, if you choose selections four, eight, and eleven, the
body of your letter would simply be:
4,8,11
and nothing more.
When you send back your response, please specify "MARKET SURVEY" in
the subject field. Then, direct your response back to
sngmedia@world.std.com.
Please realize that this is not an advertisement, or solicitation.
We simply would like to know your response. You will not be
contacted further.
Thank you in advance for your help and cooperation.
Tom and Randi Fecker
sngmedia@world.std.com.
Please select three videos that interest you most:
1. The Internet Pilot's Guide
A plain English guide to getting around on the Internet by veteran
users. How to use Internet resources to send/receive e-mail, and
to search for documents and files relating to a particular subject.
How to use LISTSERVs, GOPHER, ARCHIE, WWW and WAIS. How to use FTP
and Telnet to access remote computers for file transfers, remote
logins, etc. Also, learning how to observe Internet's
"netiquette." And how to access multimedia Mosaic bulletin boards.
2. How to Make Money at Home With Your PC I -- Successful PC-Based
Businesses
Meet five successful entrepreneurs who started their own home-based
businesses using a PC. Includes businesses that provide typing
services, mailing list management, horoscopes, bookkeeping, and
even a software developer who does not know how to program -- he
hires other people to implement his software designs. Includes
ideas for two dozen home-based businesses you can start using your
PC.
3. How to Make Money at Home With Your PC II: Portfolio Management.
Whether you manage your own portfolio for investment gains, or you
take on clients for a consulting fee, a PC can give you powerful
tools for portfolio management. Meet three successful home-based
portfolio managers who use their PCs to maximize profits. They'll
inspire you, and share some tricks of the trade that can help you
land clients and get started. We'll also show you how to determine
which software applications will meet your needs, and which online
services will satisfy your requirements.
4. How to Make Money at Home With Your PC III: Telecommuting
Learn how to use your PC to telecommute to companies across America
that are looking for specialized consultants with skills like
bookkeeping, software design and programming, editorial and script
writing, technical proofreading, graphic design, copywriting, and
more. Includes interviews with three successful telecommuters who
use their PCs, faxes, modems and phones to serve distant clients,
and information about a telecommuting referral service that could
help you find employers.
5. How to Upgrade Your Hard Drive, Step-By-Step
From choosing your new hard drive, through ordering, installing and
testing it. This plain English video shows you how to do the job
correctly, one simple step at a time. Using industry-wide
standards, we'll show you what all hard drives have in common.
Includes how to determine if your controller will support a
particular hard drive. How to remove the old drive, and install,
format and test the new drive. Includes a discussion on the
differences between the various standards.
6. How to Design Your Own PC
You don't have to be an engineer to design and build the PC of your
dreams. This plain English video shows you how to figure out the
PC design that is best for you, how to specify components, how to
make sure they'll work together, and where to buy them. You'll end
up with a top quality system that will save you money.
7. How to Build Your Own PC
Once you've designed your PC, we'll show you how to build it. The
actual process will take you only a few hours. Using an easy-to-
understand method, we'll show you how to inspect, install and test
components. Includes tips and tricks from computer production
experts. The technical skills can be easily mastered by almost
anyone, and you probably already own most of the tools you would
need.
8. How to Increase Your Computer's Memory
This plain English video shows you how to determine whether your
computer memory can be increased, and how to do the job correctly,
one step at a time. You'll learn about industry-wide standards for
memory, how to configure additional RAM and cache, how and where to
buy RAM chips, and three ways to eliminate low-quality RAM chips.
Covers all phases of the process from opening your computer, to
testing your memory. Includes discussions on how to ensure your
DOS set-up is able to access all available memory, and how to use
various memory management software applications.
9. How to Use MS-Windows 3.1
This powerful graphical user interface can help you work smarter
and faster, but the manual and the online tutorial that come with
Windows leave many questions unanswered. This plain English, step-
by-step video will show you how to install Windows on your computer
and set it up to get optimum performance.
10. How to Find a Job in the Information Age
A PC can give you an incredible advantage when you're searching for
a new job -- or even a new career. But you have to know just how
it can help you. In this video, an experienced employment
counselor will show you how to tap the power in your PC to find job
leads, create a winning resume and customized cover letters, tap
into databases and find bulletin boards that will lead you to job
openings, and use online services to research potential employers.
11. How to Install a Sound Card in Your Computer
Here's how to add incredible stereo sound to your computer with
step-by-step help. In plain English, you'll learn how to determine
if your computer can support a sound card, how and where to buy a
high-quality sound card. How to open your computer, and install
and test the sound card.
12. How to Install a CD-ROM Drive in Your Computer
Using simple tools, this plain English video shows you how to
install a CD-ROM Drive in your computer. You'll learn how to make
sure your computer can support a CD-ROM drive -- and what to do if
it can't. Covers internal vs. external drives, how and where to
buy a high quality CD-ROM drive, what you need to know about
differing industry standards, preparing the drive bay, testing and
trouble-shooting. Covers SCSI and IDE.
13. How to Fix the Most Common Computer Problems
Your computer serviceman may not want you to know this, but all you
need is the know-how you'll get from this video, simple tools, and
easily-obtainable diagnostic software -- and you can fix most
common problems you'll ever encounter with a PC.
14. What to Do When a Virus Strikes Your Computer
Viruses can come from almost anywhere: a colleague or friend's
disks, a network, a bulletin board, even commercial software. If
you ignore the first warning signs, a virus can wipe out your data
and permanently damage your computer's memory. In plain English,
this video will tell you how to scan disks for viruses, how to
check downloaded files from bulletin boards, how to set up a virus
prevention program for your home or office computer, and how and
where to buy the best anti-virus software. We'll also cover the
pros and cons of the antivirus software in DOS 6.X and Windows 3.X,
how to use antivirus software, and more.
15. How Your PC Works: Inside the Case
Here's a down-to-earth explanation of how your PC actually
processes information, and what really goes on inside the case.
You'll get a guided tour of the insides of a PC, learn about how
the various components work and how they communicate with each
other, and get a clear explanation of technical terms. A must for
anyone who wants to really understand how to program, use and
repair a PC.
16. How to Create Config.Sys, Autoexec.Bat and Batch Files
These basic files can make it much easier to use your computer --
or cause incredible headaches if they are not written properly for
your particular software and peripherals. Now you don't have to be
at the mercy of murky tech manuals, because we'll show you how to
create files that work for your system -- step-by-step, in plain
English. You'll learn how to write, modify and test Autoexec.Bat
and Config.Sys files; and how to create batch files.
17. How to Add a Modem or Faxmodem to Your Computer
Here's the easy way to add a modem or faxmodem to your computer,
with step-by-step guidance from this plain English video. You'll
learn how to determine if your computer can support a modem or
faxmodem, and what to do if it can't, how to choose and buy the
best modem or faxmodem, how to open your computer, and install the
modem or faxmodem, how to test it, how to quickly eliminate common
problems, and how to set your modem or faxmodem correctly.
18. How to Make Money at Home With Your Computer
The information age is opening up incredible new opportunities for
PC owners to make undreamed of money, using skills and knowledge
you may already have! Here's inside information on the ten most
promising telecommuting jobs and 12 small businesses you can run
right from your home, using your PC. Includes profiles of PC
owners who are actually running PC-based home businesses.
19. The Super-Highway Roadmap
This is your guide to where to go and what to see. You can make
incredible contacts and gather powerful, valuable information on
the Internet, but the problem is that most people can't begin to
imagine the potential of something that seems so abstract. This
plain English video will introduce you to the Internet, and make
these opportunities concrete. Includes interviews with 7 people
who did the impossible by gathering information and making contacts
on the Internet.
20. How to Upgrade and Repair Your PC I: Basic
This is the video your repairman doesn't want you to know about!
Since the components of most PCs are highly modular, PC repair is
easier than you think. Just pinpoint the problem component, unplug
it, remove a few screws, replace it, and presto! You're in business
again. This step-by-step video shows you how to pinpoint problems
and replace your PC's components, using ordinary household tools.
21. How to Upgrade and Repair Your PC II: Multimedia
Here's how to save big money on a PC with all the latest multimedia
peripherals. You learn how to determine if your PC can be
upgraded, how to upgrade your video card and bus, and how to add a
CD-ROM drive, sound card, video accelerator, and more. Presented
in plain English. The procedures you'll learn require ordinary
household tools -- nothing fancy!
22. Plain English Guide to DOS 6+.
The powerful sub-programs buried deep within DOS 6.0 and higher can
help you work smarter and faster, but the manual and the online
tutorial that come with DOS leave many questions unanswered. This
plain English, step-by-step video will show you how to install DOS
on your computer and set it up to get optimum performance. In
addition to DOS commands, you'll learn how to use the shell,
defragmentation, scan and antivirus programs that come with DOS.
23. Home Financial Management on a PC.
Your computer can help you create and manage a budget, keep track
of your credit card accounts, handle your tax deductions, and
reconcile your bank accounts. But that's not all! You can also
determine whether you should pay down your mortgage, finance a new
car or pay cash, buy or rent your home, and how much you'll need
for retirement. The financial information your computer can give
you might mean the difference between just getting by and a very
comfortable lifestyle -- if you ask the right questions and use
your PC to develop a financial strategy.
24. The Online Bulletin Board Guide
Bulletin boards can be the on-ramps to the Information Super
Highway -- if you know how to access and use them. This step-by-
step guide shows you how to find bulletin boards, set-up your
modem, log on, find out what they have to offer, find bulletin
board users who share your interests, search for information, and
upload and download files.
Thank you.
From: chris@michelob.wustl.edu (chris cleeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Date: 20 Apr 1994 05:23:39 GMT
Organization: Washington University School of Medicine
Message-ID: <2p2e8sINNuu@medicine.wustl.edu>
References: <YheIrRW00WBMA1ZjIv@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Apr14.224627.594@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Michael McCulloch (lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote:
> In article <YheIrRW00WBMA1ZjIv@andrew.cmu.edu>,
> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote:
> >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Apr-94 How to add non
> >NeXT PS Fonts? by schwett@netcom.com
> >> P.S. I read in a programming book that the NeXT printer was a "dumb"
> >> printer, with the NeXT itself handling the rasterization and then
> >> sending a bitmap.
> >> Surely, this isn't how NS/i deals with PostScript printers, is it?
> >
> >This is exactly how NS/i deals with printers. It is a lot easier and
> >cheaper to upgrade your machine than your printer. (By upgrade, I mean
> >any of: getting a new version of PostScript [when NEXTSTEP became PS
> >level 2 compliant, every NeXT printer supported PS level 2 immediately],
> >adding more RAM, getting a faster CPU, etc.)
> Charles,
> Are you sure this is how NS/i deals with PS printers? With the NeXT
> HW, you had a fast, synchronous serial port. I can't imagine shipping
> rasterized images over a 19200 baud serial port -- it'd be terribly
> slow. I thought NS/i just shipped ascii to the PS printer, unless
> you have a NeXT color printer which operates through the SCSI port.
NS/I *does* just send the ascii postscript code to the printer;
I just set it up today, as a matter of fact.
Moreover, the postscript license from Adobe that comes with NS/I
specifically forbids printing to device having a resolution over
something absurd like 120dpi (or something like that). Thus,
even if you *do* print that way (by hook or crook), you are in
license violation.
-cj
From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: putenv()
Date: 20 Apr 94 00:53:20
Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SHIVERS.94Apr20005320@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
Sigh. What is the canonical way to get putenv() when compiling on
NeXTSTEP?
-Olin
From: starksm@genesis.mcs.com (Scott M. Stark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Archie and SLIP
Date: 20 Apr 1994 10:01:59 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p2uin$o6o@News1.mcs.com>
References: <19APR199408594182@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
Keywords: Archie, SLIP, responses
In article <19APR199408594182@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes:
>
> I've installed Archie (gleaned from cs.orst.edu) on my 25Mhz 040
NeXTcube
> running NS3.2. I use Louis Mamakos CSLIP to access the net. When I run
a
> Archie query, I get connected to the host server and then nothing
happens
> (actually, once I saw a "receiving ... 1" message). Is this a
SLIP-is-too-slow
> problem? [BTW my modem is 14.4 with hardware compression.]
>
> Please respond to mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
>
> Don
Don,
No, it is not your SLIP connection because I test it using the exact
configuration you are describing. There is an as yet unknown cause
to why some people always see this response problem. I do see it
occasionally, but the next time I try, I am receiving replies in
under 3 minutes, often under 30 seconds. I am working on trying to
figure out what is happening.
Scott
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From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye)
Subject: Funny bug in NG?
Message-ID: <1994Apr20.093059.26425@imag.fr>
Sender: news@imag.fr
Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:30:59 GMT
When posting with NG, if you want to insert documents in a rich post, the NG
window must *not* be key or the document will be rejected. If the WM window is
key, everything is fine.
Where should I send a bug report if I want to have any hope of seeing this bug
corrected (if it is one, as I think)?
Yves.
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From: aboba@netcom.com (Bernard Aboba)
Subject: Where is OmniWeb?
Message-ID: <netnewsCoK2nJ.EJq@netcom.com>
Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration)
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 11:30:54 GMT
Have heard a lot about this new WWW browser, but can't seem to find a
copy. Where is it available?
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From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: Re: Problem with ZZVolume Demo
Message-ID: <1994Apr20.073619.1341@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
References: <1994Apr19.174403.22629@fct.unl.pt>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 07:36:19 GMT
In article <1994Apr19.174403.22629@fct.unl.pt> nsv@fct.unl.pt (Nuno
Viegas) writes:
:I've downloaded the ZZVolume demo and proceded with it's installation.
:however, when i run the app, it sends some errors to the Console, and
:dont't finish the initialization. I'm running NS 3.0.
:Can anybody help me ?
:
:the Console looks like this:
:
:Apr 19 19:41:10 literal ZZVolume1.5[5768]: rld():
:/tmp/ZZVolume1.5.app/Actors.bundle/Actors bad magic number (not a Mach-O
file)
:Apr 19 19:41:10 literal ZZVolume1.5[5768]: objc: FREED(id): message free
sent
:to freed object=0x1059e4
:
:PS: I had similar problems with 3D Reality demo.
Hi
The ZZVolume demo on the ftp came from floppies and it seems that a lot of
people have problems to recover it.
If you could have access to a thirdParty CDROM bundled with the 3.2 you'll
get a demo version AND the documentation ( ~ 100 Mb uncompacted)
otherwise send me your adress And I 'll send you the demo on floppies.
Sincerely
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
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From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GnuPlot
Date: 20 Apr 1994 08:34:06 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940420143130.1997AACUP.malc@jeeves>
Is anybody aware of a MAB version of GnuPlot?
I've tried recompiling v1.2 on NS 3.2, but get more errors than I have time to
look at for now.
Does anybody else using the current Motorola version find that many of the
button icons don't show up, by the way?!
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking For: TickleServices users
Date: 20 Apr 1994 10:45:59 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404201545.AA09333@alleg.EDU>
I am wondering if there are people around who would like to be in
communication about TickleServices relating to (1) new services they
need or (2) new services they have written. I am just wondering if
there are enough people around to do something like this.
If you are interested, please use EMAIL rather than posting as this
is not the appropriate locale for such information and I'd hate to
start a flame war.
Thanks
Tim
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From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: GnuPlot
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <CoKCJx.GCL@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 15:04:45 GMT
References: <940420143130.1997AACUP.malc@jeeves>
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
In article <940420143130.1997AACUP.malc@jeeves>,
Malcolm Crawford <M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>Is anybody aware of a MAB version of GnuPlot?
>I've tried recompiling v1.2 on NS 3.2, but get more errors than I have time to
>look at for now.
>
Actually, they're not errors -- they're warnings, and you can
ignore them. I left a few unused variables in, and the rest are
warnings from the original gnuplot sources. Just type make, then make
install and things should work.
>
>Does anybody else using the current Motorola version find that many of the
>button icons don't show up, by the way?!
>
Hmm. You might want to make sure the tiffs in the app wrapper
are readable and the directories executable. There should be no
problem here.
This front end is aging, and a new one is in the works, but
I've had to put it on the back burner for a bit. It will clean up
alot of my messy code, but the two most time-consuming changes are 1)
separating the interface from the gnuplot executable (which involves
writing a parser for gnuplot files, or using the parsing code from
gnuplot, neither of which is a picnic) and 2) a general
rewrite/redesign of the document-inspector interaction (i.e. the
entire app).
The rewrite is substantial, which will allow me to remove the
GNU copyleft from the source in the next release, for those who care.
I don't want to give any dates, but I expect to have more time this
summer to finish this up.
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Pniiacle Transfer -- Are they alive
Message-ID: <1994Apr19.001851.361@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 00:18:51 GMT
If anyone has any concrete information on how to get a hold of someone who
can sell this prodcut, please pass it along.
Thanks
Wes
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From: gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu (Reality)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Endnote for NeXT?
Date: 20 Apr 1994 18:01:11 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <2p3ql7$966@network.ucsd.edu>
I think I already know the answer to this one, but does anybody
know of any software that performs functions like that which Endnote
does for Macs? (Endnote is basically a bibliographic information
service.)
Thanks,
Brian
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From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica problem [rich-text format!!]
Date: 20 Apr 1994 18:28:05 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <2p3s7m$d18@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <2p16tr$fku@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In article <2p16tr$fku@solaris.cc.vt.edu> writes:
:Here is what I have for the last 10- minutes:
[picture deleted]
:
:I know that this calculation should take less than a minute :) Does
:anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
:Machine: NeXTstation TUrbo
:Mathematica: 2.0
:NeXTStep: 3.1
:
:--
:Cem Unsal
I would guess that your front end is trying to load the kernal, but is
unable to do so for some reason.
Is this something that just spontaneously came up or is this the first
time you've tried to use Mathematica?
If it suddenly happened to you then I might suspect a problem with
privileges, but if it's never worked for you then I (knowing little about
how it all works) would probably just reinstall it all... No doubt more
sophisticated users could find a more elegant solution. :^)
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From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there a mail app for regular mail?
Date: 20 Apr 1994 16:46:35 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2p44bb$j8g@acme.gatech.edu>
I tried using mail.app on my NS/Intel machine at home,
and it wouldn't work on a regular mailx mail file (I renamed
it to whatever.mbox and that didn't help). I'm curious
if there is a mail app that does work on regular mail files?
I'd really like something that did so.
John
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From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Changing a file's default apps
Date: 20 Apr 1994 16:52:02 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2p44li$noh@acme.gatech.edu>
Last night I was looking at the file inspector,
trying to figure out how to add an application
to the list of apps associated with a file. Changing
the default was easy enough.. But when I tried to drag
one on to it, it didn't work.. and I didn't see any
clear way of making a new one.
Also, it isn't clear if you're chaging the default for
files wiht that extension, or for just that file. Further,
it seems you can only specify for the last extension
(such as .tiff). It would be nice to be able to specify
multiple extensions (like, if I want all my icons to be
.icon.tiff then I might want those files to start icon
builder instead of preview..but I still want .tiff files
to start preview).
Help would be appreciated.
John
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From: jheidelo@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Kermit
Date: 20 Apr 1994 13:33:19 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <2p3auv$36@mustang.alleg.edu>
Can anyone tell me if there is a FAT version of Kermit anywhere on the
sites?
E-mail responses are preferred!
Thanks!!!
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From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RightBrain's Rulers?
Date: 20 Apr 1994 15:46 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20APR199415465745@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Hi. Back in the "good ole days", Glenn Reid's RightBrain sold a product
called "Rulers". Anybody have an idea where Rulers can be purchased today?
Please respond to: mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Thanks.
Don
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What is new - Another driver for BT-445S SCSI Adapter
Date: 20 Apr 1994 18:37:44 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404210004.AA00364@hurka>
Hi All,
we are very surprised by the great reaction on our previous posting.
The most interesting thing (at least for us) is that there are lots
of people, who want to test and use our driver. We simply didn't
expected this. So we will do a little clean-up and wrote some readme
etc. and put the driver on the archive. It should be at till the end
of the week. We also try to write an official announcement and put it
into comp.sys.next.announce.
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
Ondrej Cada
ocs@earn.cvut.cz
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From: burns@bellcore.com (James E. Burns)
Subject: Re: Seeking info on ISDN connectivity
In-Reply-To: jaime@afs.com's message of Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:24:37 GMT
Message-ID: <BURNS.94Apr20175735@wildcat.bellcore.com>
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Organization: /burns/.organization
References: <1994Apr18.172437.2133@afs.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 22:57:35 GMT
The Hayes Extender is essentially dead. It depends on the PhoneKit,
which as far as I know has never been picked up. In any case, it
doesn't support the National ISDN-1 standard (although you might be
able to use it if your switch has the AT&T ISDN option). You can use
ISDN with the Cube (I am, even as I speak), but the max speed is
38.4K over the serial port.
jim burns
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From: murphy@wsc.com (Paul Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SubProcess and IconWell classes
Date: 20 Apr 1994 14:14:22 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those
held by WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <2p3dbu$i73@cerberus.wsc.com>
An old purdue index I have shows the following in pub/next/oop/classes:
..
-rw-r--r-- 1 archiver 9966 Apr 19 1992 IconView.tar.Z
..
-rw-r--r-- 1 archiver 6718 Apr 16 1992 SubprocessPlus.tar.Z
..
They are no longer there. If anyone happens to have them available, could
you please let me know (or let me know where I can find them).
Thanks much.
- Paul
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From: root@DaBoyz.dgcp.doc.ca (Operator)
Subject: Listserv for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994Apr20.194716.13341@clark.dgim.doc.ca>
Sender: news@clark.dgim.doc.ca (#Usenet News)
Organization: Communications Canada
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 19:47:16 GMT
Is there a listerv-type application available for NeXT running on an Intel
box?
Regards,
Tyson Macaulay
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: putenv()
Date: 21 Apr 1994 07:14:34 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2p594q$h1m@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <SHIVERS.94Apr20005320@lewis.lcs.mit.edu
In article <SHIVERS.94Apr20005320@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers) writes:
>Sigh. What is the canonical way to get putenv() when compiling on
>NeXTSTEP?
Very, very little software has any legitimate need for a putenv()
procedure. In the vast majority of cases, the goal is to set up
an environment that will be inherited by a child process. The
correct way to do this is to construct a separate environment
vector, and pass it explicitly to execve() or execle().
The following libc routines examine environment variables in the
current process, and under _exceedingly rare_ conditions it's
conceivable you _might_ want to intervene programmatically to
perturb their behavior.
execlp()/execvp() [PATH]
ctime()/localtime()/mktime() [TZ, TZNAME]
rexec() [HOME]
gethostbyname() or resolver(3) routines [HOSTALIASES, LOCALDOMAIN]
termcap(3x) or curses(3x) routines [TERM, TERMCAP]
I now consider posting putenv() or setenv() source
contrary to the public interest.
-=EPS=-
From: dl@apysoft.oleane.com (Denis Lafont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: QUERY: FAX software (for Zyxel) and tiff vectorization program
Date: 21 Apr 1994 08:57:49 GMT
Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks
Message-ID: <2p5f6d$8b8@relay2.oleane.net>
Hello,
What is the best softwares in the PD to manage a Zyxel fax-modem?
We are looking for a bitmap to real ps converter. Some products exists on
others platforms, but we are interested in a BH or WH software...Any clue?
Thanks,
Denis
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Seeking info on ISDN connectivity
Date: 21 Apr 1994 09:55:37 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2p5iip$m6@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <1994Apr18.172437.2133@afs.com> <BURNS.94Apr20175735@wildcat.bellcore.com>
In article <BURNS.94Apr20175735@wildcat.bellcore.com>,
James E. Burns <burns@bellcore.com> wrote:
>The Hayes Extender is essentially dead. It depends on the PhoneKit,
>which as far as I know has never been picked up. In any case, it
I thought it was picked up by Pencom, but then shelved.
We have two of them, gathering dust. We were fairly pissed
about it at the time.
>doesn't support the National ISDN-1 standard (although you might be
>able to use it if your switch has the AT&T ISDN option). You can use
>ISDN with the Cube (I am, even as I speak), but the max speed is
>38.4K over the serial port.
I'm using ISDN, incidentally on a cube, but it can be used
on any ethernet using the right bridges or hubs, and with
compression, speeds in the .5 Mbps range are possible. All
it takes is money.
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From: dagole@altus.altus.no (Dag Ole Storrosten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fortran Compiler
Date: 21 Apr 1994 11:04:25 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Message-ID: <2p5mjp$sai@ratatosk.uninett.no>
I want to use Nextstep for running Fortran routines with better user
interface on an Intel-computer.
The routines are written for Sun/HP-computers under Unix V.
Where do I get a fortran-compiler for running under Nextstep or
it s Unix without paying a fortune?
Christian Brudevoll
Altus Interactive
Norway
Please Reply to:
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N-0371 Oslo
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From: dagole@altus.altus.no (Dag Ole Storrosten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fortran compiler
Date: 21 Apr 1994 11:16:26 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Message-ID: <2p5naa$sc8@ratatosk.uninett.no>
I want to use Nextstep for running Fortran routines with better user
interface on an Intel-computer.
The routines are written for Sun/HP-computers under Unix V.
Where do I get a fortran-compiler for running under Nextstep or
it s Unix without paying a fortune?
Christian Brudevoll
Altus Interactive
Norway
Please reply to: dagole@altus.no
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: putenv()
Date: 21 Apr 1994 12:48:18 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2p5p62$26f@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <SHIVERS.94Apr20005320@lewis.lcs.mit.edu <2p594q$h1m@nic-nac.csu.net>
Eric, I too would like to see this thread die but you are facing the
problem that people just grab source and expect it to compile and want
to do as little as possible to get it to compile. Therefore for most
a putenv() is all they really want.
Hopefully your efforts will result in _new_ software not requiring
putenv but I ask you, how much software (unix c) today is new....
When you make statements like that.. How about following up to groups
that count.. namely comp.unix.programmer otherwise I don't think
anything is going to change in a hurry.
Just a friendly suggestion.
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: need help in converting WRITENOW files to PostScript
Message-ID: <24816@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca>
Date: 21 Apr 94 13:30:09 GMT
Sender: news@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine
I was given five WRITENOW files (about 50 pages) which I would like to print.
It's important that these files be printed in their original format
(i.e., a"wn2ascii" ffilter won't suffice).
Unfortunately, I don't have WRITENOW on my NeXT Cube (NS 3.0)
and nor do I have WRITENOW on any other platform.
Would someone be willing to receive these files via e-mail,
print them to PostScript, and then send me the PostScript files.
This is a *one time only* request. Thanks.
Rob Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there a mail app for regular mail?
Date: 21 Apr 1994 13:45:53 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2p602h$c4k@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <2p44bb$j8g@acme.gatech.edu>
John (gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: I tried using mail.app on my NS/Intel machine at home,
: and it wouldn't work on a regular mailx mail file (I renamed
: it to whatever.mbox and that didn't help). I'm curious
: if there is a mail app that does work on regular mail files?
:
I'm not sure what you mean by mailx...
If you mean an "ordinary" mbox file, you can turn it into a .mbox by:
Creating a new .mbox *directory* (e.g. MyMail.mbox)
put the mail file in it (cp mailFile MyMail.mbox/mbox)
open MyMail.mbox in Mail.app
It should "just work".
If you want mail to go to there, call the .mbox "Active.mbox"
I hope this is what you were after?
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Date: 21 Apr 1994 14:16:52 GMT
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Message-ID: <2p61sk$hk@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
References: <2p2e8sINNuu@medicine.wustl.edu>
chris cleeland writes
> [...] the postscript license from Adobe that comes with NS/I
> specifically forbids printing to device having a resolution over
> something absurd like 120dpi (or something like that). Thus,
> even if you *do* print that way (by hook or crook), you are in
> license violation.
Wow. The agreement for 3.2 (black) sez "You are licensed to use the NeXT
Software to output bitmaps generated by the PostScript interpreter
included with the NeXT Software (a) to create images for display on your
computer screen, (b) to output to [fax devices] (c) to output to
[Postscript printers], and (d) to output to [NeXT printers]. You are not
otherwise licensed to print PostScipt language files created with your
NeXT Software without and additional license available from NeXT."
That means no Dots and no Gnu Ghostscript if your NeXT created the PS code
you want to print. Harsh!
--Glenn
P.S.:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Subject: Re: NS Help: Limitations from hell?
Message-ID: <CoK7BA.6sr@hazel.north.de>
Sender: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Organization: Great Mathematical Developments, Inc.
References: <CoGI2s.130@tms-gmbh.de>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 13:11:33 GMT
In article <CoGI2s.130@tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) writes:
.......
> And thats not all. The support of bundles via addSupplement: was broken
in
> 3.0, worked a bit in 3.1, seems almost to work in 3.2... And lots of
other
> shortcommings. This d... Help has costed me days!
>
> Gerd
My experience is (3.2): If and only if an item from the bundle ( be it the
main bundle or anything loaded dynamically ) is selected in the Help table
of contents, then using the help key on a nib from this bundle works ok.
In all other cases you just get an angry beep.
A rather silly limitation - it effectively requires the user to know the
internal bundle architecture of the application.
Gerriet.
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXTMail and MIME?
Date: 21 Apr 1994 14:40:58 GMT
Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!)
Message-ID: <2p639s$diu@news.intercon.com>
Hi folks,
Does NeXT have any plans to support MIME in their Mail.app? I understand
there are some 3rd party MIME mailers (I couldn't locate them on the net
this morning, though), but I'm really hoping that NeXT, Inc. won't miss
the MIME boat, as it were.
Thanks for any info.
David.
From: rfoote@rwj.sph.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Listserv for NeXT?
Date: 21 Apr 94 11:00:03
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <rfoote.94Apr211103@rwj.sph.umich.edu>
References: <1994Apr20.194716.13341@clark.dgim.doc.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Majordomo is a perl (which compiles easilty on NS3.2/FIP) program that is, in some ways, better than your average listserv. Try writing majordomo@greatcircle.com...
Richard Foote (rfoote@umich.edu)
>Is there a listerv-type application available for NeXT running on an Intel
box?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: Re: NeXTMail and MIME?
Message-ID: <CoMA9r.8K8@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
References: <2p639s$diu@news.intercon.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 16:10:39 GMT
> Does NeXT have any plans to support MIME in their Mail.app?
Strong rumors exist about NeXT employees using MIME capable mail
programs. Someone posted the header of a message he/she received
from NeXT that implied it was generated by a MIME system.
On a side note, MIME will probably be going through an important
transition in the next six to twelve months. There is a strong effort
to pull MIME and PEM (Privacy Enhanced Mail) together into a single
specification. I suspect MIME will really take off at that point as
this will really encourage the business community.
A side side note. There is an effort to integrate digital signatures
(perhaps full encryption) into mosaic in order to use it as a business
tool - for example, you can advertise your goods and someone can place
a digitally signed order through Mosaic. The effort is being led by
CommerceNet.
Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: mark@snapdragon.cs.odu.edu (Mark Imbriaco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Seeking info on ISDN connectivity
Date: 21 Apr 1994 16:25:00 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <MARK.94Apr21122500@snapdragon.cs.odu.edu>
References: <1994Apr18.172437.2133@afs.com> <BURNS.94Apr20175735@wildcat.bellcore.com>
<2p5iip$m6@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In-reply-to: anderson@macc.wisc.edu's message of 21 Apr 1994 09:55:37 GMT
> I'm using ISDN, incidentally on a cube, but it can be used
> on any ethernet using the right bridges or hubs, and with
> compression, speeds in the .5 Mbps range are possible. All
> it takes is money.
Yeah. Combinet ISDN bridges are about US$1000 or so, and
they support compression so you could get somewhere in the
.25 Mbps range. Gandalf bridges support a better compression
system and advertise 8:1 or 1 Mbps over the standard ISDN
(2 b-channels) service.
--
---
Mark Imbriaco
mark@cs.odu.edu
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXTMail and MIME?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 21 Apr 1994 16:51:44 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2p6av0$f50@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <2p639s$diu@news.intercon.com>
David Casti (disc@vector.casti.com) wrote:
: Does NeXT have any plans to support MIME in their Mail.app? I understand
: there are some 3rd party MIME mailers (I couldn't locate them on the net
: this morning, though), but I'm really hoping that NeXT, Inc. won't miss
: the MIME boat, as it were.
:
There have been occasional postings from NeXT employees which have
included a MIME header: it is widely rumoured that Mail.app II will
support MIME, although it is not clear when Mail II will ship. Best
guess is October, with NS3.3.
If you want MIME now, you coult try Eloquent, from Take Three
eloquent_info@arissoft.com
Version 1.01c due out very soon.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Listserv for NeXT?
Date: 21 Apr 1994 18:09:29 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2p6c09$5sj@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Apr20.194716.13341@clark.dgim.doc.ca> <rfoote.94Apr211103@rwj.sph.umich.edu>
rfoote@rwj.sph.umich.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>
>Majordomo is a perl (which compiles easilty on NS3.2/FIP) program that is, in some ways, better than your average listserv. Try writing majordomo@greatcircle.com...
>
Or try procmail and the _now_ separate mailling list software that
goes with it. and get mail filtering for free.
I put together a package for perl that should be on cs.orst.edu
somewhere's probably some unix/util directory ...
>
>>Is there a listerv-type application available for NeXT running on an Intel
>box?
Procmail will compile on anything.
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: RightBrain's Rulers?
Message-ID: <1994Apr21.180534.10201@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <20APR199415465745@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 18:05:34 GMT
In article <20APR199415465745@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes:
> Hi. Back in the "good ole days", Glenn Reid's RightBrain sold a product
> called "Rulers". Anybody have an idea where Rulers can be purchased
today?
Try Henry McGilton; info@trilithon.com.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Is there a mail app for regular mail?
Message-ID: <1994Apr21.180505.10143@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2p44bb$j8g@acme.gatech.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 18:05:05 GMT
In article <2p44bb$j8g@acme.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
writes:
>
> I tried using mail.app on my NS/Intel machine at home,
> and it wouldn't work on a regular mailx mail file (I renamed
> it to whatever.mbox and that didn't help). I'm curious
> if there is a mail app that does work on regular mail files?
Make a folder called xxx.mbox; then put your mailbox inside, calling it
mbox. Mail.app will then recognise it.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Changing a file's default apps
In-Reply-To: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu's message of 20 Apr 1994 16:52:02 -0400
Message-ID: <BYER.94Apr21105423@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <2p44li$noh@acme.gatech.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 17:54:23 GMT
John writes:
John> Last night I was looking at the file inspector, trying to figure out
John> how to add an application to the list of apps associated with a file.
John> Changing the default was easy enough.. But when I tried to drag one on
John> to it, it didn't work.. and I didn't see any clear way of making a new
John> one.
There's isn't a "clear" way. But there is a way. Using SegHoarker (a nice
interface over otool) you can pull out the __ICON __header segment and edit
it. Once edited, you can use SegHoaker to replace it.
An alternative is to use an app like Opener which knows how to redirect things.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
Everything is impossible until it isn't.
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages tech support is wonderful!
Date: 21 Apr 1994 19:39:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p6kqc$9pm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
I haven't had Pages long enough to know much about the software yet.
However, their technical support people are more actively helpful than any
software company from which I have ever made a purchase.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Term for Nextstep?
Date: 21 Apr 1994 16:07:48 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2p6mel$7a4@acme.gatech.edu>
Someone asked a few months back if anyone had ported
Term to nextstep. Term is a program that sort of
fools your dialed-in computer in to thinking it's
on the network of the host you have dialed in to.
(it's not slip.. the remote host only has to run
a special shell/program, not a full blown slip/ppp).
I'd really like to try to run it.. but I need to know
if the client portion has been ported to nextstep,
and if so where I can get it.
Thanks
John
--
John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu)
Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu)
========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mailing list software
Date: 21 Apr 1994 19:43:39 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p6l1b$1ui@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
I am looking for mailing list software. I have a
demo program that prints out mailing labels
but this is not quite what I had in mind. If
this program had hooks into the address book app
that would do it. In short I need a good
way to store phone numbers, business info and
print envelopes straight from the address without
having to do anything special. Any clues?
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Donald F. Bora | | |
The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O |
Northwestern University | (--|--)
Evanston, Ill | |
e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Not NeXTMail) | / \
work: (708) 467-1972 |
--------Be excellent to each other--------
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail and MIME?
Date: 21 Apr 1994 21:31:16 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2p6rb4$jgt@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <2p639s$diu@news.intercon.com> <CoMA9r.8K8@ucdavis.edu>
Louis Todd Heberlein (heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: > Does NeXT have any plans to support MIME in their Mail.app?
: Strong rumors exist about NeXT employees using MIME capable mail
: programs. Someone posted the header of a message he/she received
: from NeXT that implied it was generated by a MIME system.
:
This was the offending article...
From: <omitted>@next.com (<omitted>)
Message-Id: <9401031954.AA15649@<omitted>.NeXT.COM>
Received: from NeXT-Mail-2 (0.0) by zone.next.com (NX5.67d/NX3.0X)
id AA17951; Mon, 3 Jan 94 11:54:16 -0800
Receipt_To: VSRgyhz1lxLiYSpl0K5cwdeLS2
X-Next-Documentid: dUfaimnjr81QA1yIls0vyMv6fK
Date: 3 Jan 94 11:53:52 -0800
Subject: Read Receipt
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: <omitted>
Content-Type: text/x-nextmail
Received: by NeXT.Mailer.2
:-)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft=sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: play CDs through sound card over system bus?
Date: 21 Apr 1994 22:06:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Message-ID: <2p6tcs$7nq@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Is there any software which allows one to play CDs in the CD-ROM drive
over the speakers connected to the sound-card, even when there is no
direct connection between the CD-ROM drive and the sound-card other than
the SCSI bus and system bus?
I've got an NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM and MS-Windows Sound System ISA sound
card on my NS/I 3.2 system, but the sound card has no internal input to
connect directly to the CD-ROM inside the computer like many sound cards
(SoundBlaster and PAS16 I believe are examples) seem to. I like the
CDPlayer.app, but want the sound to come out of my speakers, not
headphones. (And of course I could connect the speakers to the headphone
jack of the CD-ROM drive instead of the sound-card, but then I wouldn't
hear the system sounds, and buying 2 sets of speakers is just absurd.)
Seems like it should be possible to write software to transfer the music
over the system bus. Might take processor cycles, but that's okay.
The only other option would be to connect the output from the headphone
jack of the CD-ROM drive back into the line-in of the sound card. This
would require another cable.
Also, it isn't clear to me how you would record CD-ROM music into the
sound-card without software which does essentially this (or the last
option mentioned above).
-Karl
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe FontInstaller FAT??
Date: 21 Apr 1994 23:27:18 GMT
Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p724m$joe@rain.psg.com>
Does anyone out there have a copy of the Adobe FontInstaller FAT??
I use to have it then I somehow must haved tossed it by mistake..
If not, what are the 2 commands to rebuild fontcachce and afm stuff??
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
(NeXT Mail OK)
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to Purchase WriteUp?
Date: 21 Apr 1994 23:27:49 GMT
Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p725l$joj@rain.psg.com>
Where can I purchase a copy of WriteUp?
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,su.computers.next
Subject: robustness testing before performance tuning
Date: 21 Apr 1994 23:12:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2p7183$903@Times.Stanford.EDU>
An important question and some (I think) useful ideas and philosophy follow.
And at the end I issue two challenges...
Basic question: Is there any software, or are there any things to check
by hand, to test out a new NEXTSTEP system when things appear to work
correctly in order to determine with high confidence that everything is in
fact working properly and there aren't any hidden incompatibility problems?
Background:
With all the complaints about incompatibility in the NS/I world, I
posted a while ago a question about whether NS/I compatibility was a
black and white issue or whether there were shades of gray. That is, if
you go out and buy a non-supported system, does successful NS
installation and brief use of all system components indicate that there
is a good likelihood that everything works fine and is completely
compatible? Specifically, it is easy to determine the supported
components for NS/I and stick to those. The real potential for
problems is with the motherboard. How likely is it that a motherboard
can be 80% compatible, or 90% compatible, in ways that aren't ilkely to
be noticed in the first 30 days of ownership? It certainly seems to be
the case that certain peripherals (e.g., ProAudioStudio16 ISA sound
card) seem to cause intermittant problems (freeze up and crash the
OS).
[Philosophizing & soap-box mode on] In general, it seems when people buy
a new sophisticated computer system (NS or other), the first thing they
do once it is set up (in addition to playing games or gawking at
multimedia type stuff) is to start doing performance benchmarking. (At
least serious computer junkies seem to.) This makes some sense since
presumably they always could have bought cheaper systems if they were
willing to suffer from worse performance of some kind. So benchmarking
is a way to check that they got their money's worth. In addition, after
an initial set of performance evaluations (and after bragging about
these on the net and to their computer-junky-inclined friends :-) ) they
can try to improve their systmes scores by fiddling with various
things. This has some utility since presumably it will improve the
quality of their system. But still, it seems to me they have missed
something, namely robustness testing. Things often go wrong with
computer systems and they should try to make whatever is going to go
wrong actually do so as soon as possible.
This is admittedly, a significantly less important issue in worlds where
there are few or no compatibility issues, since it applies mostly to
compatibility problems (since actual hardwar failures are tested for more
extensively before shipping and also are covered under warranty for a
reasonably long period of time). But in the NS/Intel world this is
especially important. Furthermore, I would claim that compatibility
problmes will be increasingly important in the future as more and more
hardware is capable of running more and more different software and
operating systems. Thus, this will be an issue for more and more people.
Having gotten no responses to my black & white vs. shades of gray
question, I went ahead and bought a Gateway Pentium to run NS/I, even
though it was not a certified or listed NextAnswers system, having heard
over the net of one person successfully installing NS on the Intel
motherboard used in these systems. I installed NS and everything seems
to work, for the most part, great (and fast too! :-) ).
So what should I do now, in the roughly 1 week I have left before my 30
days are up to put my new system through its paces?
Challenge (1): Send me the hardest tasks you think a NEXTSTEP system has
to face that you think are most likely to cause problems to show up if
they exist.
Challenge (2): I think someone who has access to a lot of different
PC hardware should design a piece of software and/or suite of tests
which would with high confidence (I'd be impressed by 75%) and in only a
few hours expose problems which still exist after NEXTSTEP installation.
Or do you actually believe that both challenges are a waste of time
because you have confidence that compatibility issues are black or white.
Care to back up the opinion?
-Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer)
Subject: Re: Term for Nextstep?
Message-ID: <Con34D.Guu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
References: <2p6mel$7a4@acme.gatech.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 02:33:49 GMT
In article <2p6mel$7a4@acme.gatech.edu>,
gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) wrote:
: Someone asked a few months back if anyone had ported
: Term to nextstep. Term is a program that sort of
: fools your dialed-in computer in to thinking it's
: on the network of the host you have dialed in to.
: (it's not slip.. the remote host only has to run
: a special shell/program, not a full blown slip/ppp).
A version of term is included (as "TipTop Goodies") in the shareware
app, "TipTop" (by Pedja Bogdanovich, pedja%luka@umiacs.umd.edu).
It isn't slip, but it's great for running multiple sessions over a
single line. The goodies also include a version of ncftp hacked to
work with term.
TipTop allows you to run tcl scripts to automate your login and such:
my script, only slightly modified from Pedja's, dials in, logs in, runs
term locally and remotely, then pulls up a trsh in Stuart. Pretty
slick all around, and well worth the shareware price ($35/$25 student).
-- just a satisfied user.
________________________________________________________________________
Will Fischer wfischer@indiana.edu
Grad Student
Department of Biology
Indiana University
Bloomington, Indiana 47405 USA
fax 812-333-7922
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: root@beach (Operator)
Subject: Where to get Font package
Message-ID: <ConB9p.1Er@beach.com>
Sender: root@beach.com (Operator)
Organization: SonRise Corp.
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 05:29:48 GMT
Somebody out there has to have these fonts: Umbra, Futura, Galliard, Tekton
I know because I've used them on the NeXT platform. Can anyone tell me where I
can get them?
Thanks in advance...
kevin@beach.com
From: newcombe@nbnet.nb.ca (newcome.alan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: P.C.Tools 2.0
Date: 22 Apr 1994 09:26:25 GMT
Organization: nbnet
Message-ID: <newcombe.7.0@nbnet.nb.ca>
can someone help me to completely uninstall P.C.Tools for windows
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail and MIME?
Date: 22 Apr 1994 11:37:18 GMT
Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!)
Message-ID: <2p8cte$f2t@news.intercon.com>
References: <2p639s$diu@news.intercon.com> <CoMA9r.8K8@ucdavis.edu>
Hi Todd,
: Strong rumors exist about NeXT employees using MIME capable mail
: programs. Someone posted the header of a message he/she received
: from NeXT that implied it was generated by a MIME system.
Hmmm... So I'll keep waiting on this development until there is
something official, I suppose.
: On a side note, MIME will probably be going through an important
: transition in the next six to twelve months. There is a strong effort
: to pull MIME and PEM (Privacy Enhanced Mail) together into a single
: specification. I suspect MIME will really take off at that point as
: this will really encourage the business community.
I think it will take longer than six to twelve months to make that happen.
In fact, until the Feds get their act together about encryption, there is
no incentive for anyone to offer commercial encryption technology.
David.
From: mcli@riker.Read.TASC.COM (Maurice C. Ling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CoXist or MouseX? =====> CubX-Window ! ...(NOT) NOT!!
Date: 22 Apr 1994 12:21:19 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <2p8ffvINNt31@jumbo.read.tasc.com>
References: <1994Apr11.131942.1699@joker.fdn.org>
I am interested in the suggested RAM requirements for Cub'X.
I have co-Xist 2.0.1 with Motif 1.1 installed on my '040 NeXTcube with
NeXTdimension 16M RAM, NS 3.0. It's usable, except it only supports
a visual depth of 2.
I also have the co-Xist 2.1.1 (color support) upgrade and version 3.0
(with Motif 1.2 support) on floppies. However, I tried installing 3.0
and they suggest a RAM requirement of 32M. As a result, co-Xist 3.0
ran really really slow and caused the swap file to swamp the disk.
Also co-Xist doesn't support NeXTdimension very well in version 3.0.
The 2.1.1 upgrade, which supports color, recommends 20M RAM. I'm
reluctant to try that though.
One positive aspect of Pencom is that their customer support is
very prompt and helpful.
Now that I think of it, I will try the Cub'X demo and see how that
compares with co-Xist.
--
Maurice Ling
NeXTmail: mcli@nextcube.read.tasc.com \/
School: mling@jade.tufts.edu >--< ======================
Work : mling@tasc.com /\ Optics
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,su.computers.next
Subject: Re: robustness testing before performance tuning
Date: 22 Apr 1994 12:54:48 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2p8heo$l74@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <2p7183$903@Times.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2p7183$903@Times.Stanford.EDU>,
Karl Robert Pfleger <kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>An important question and some (I think) useful ideas and philosophy follow.
>And at the end I issue two challenges...
>
>Basic question: Is there any software, or are there any things to check
>by hand, to test out a new NEXTSTEP system when things appear to work
>correctly in order to determine with high confidence that everything is in
>fact working properly and there aren't any hidden incompatibility problems?
>
>
Background deleted
>
>Challenge (1): Send me the hardest tasks you think a NEXTSTEP system has
>to face that you think are most likely to cause problems to show up if
>they exist.
>
>Challenge (2): I think someone who has access to a lot of different
>PC hardware should design a piece of software and/or suite of tests
>which would with high confidence (I'd be impressed by 75%) and in only a
>few hours expose problems which still exist after NEXTSTEP installation.
>
>Or do you actually believe that both challenges are a waste of time
>because you have confidence that compatibility issues are black or white.
>Care to back up the opinion?
>
I'd have to say that the hardest task is simply getting NEXTSTEP itself to
run. There's no application in general that is going to exercise the basic
hardware of the computer, memory, video interfaces, disk I/O, interrupts
and dma more than NS itself. Then of course you have specific interfaces
and/or hardware that NS itself won't directly exercise in the course of
everyday operation, but these tend to rather specific to the mission the
user has intended (ie:peripherals and applications related to them).
The difficulty you encounter at this point is whether you are testing the
hardware or NS itself with any particular package. NS requires/demands
good performance of its components. Hardware flaws or firmware bugs in
cards or peripherals or masked by BIOS code that escaped notice in lesser
Operatings Systems (msdos, windoze,...) can interfer with NS operation.
Bugs within NS (the few that exist ;-) can make it difficult to debug
certain types of problems.
I suspect we could probably come up with a general list of Apps to run and
some additional test code to use as a system exerciser, but you are not
going to find those problems that make you want to tear your hair out until
you can't run the application YOU need.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: NeXTMail and MIME?
Message-ID: <1994Apr22.103852.1367@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <2p639s$diu@news.intercon.com> <CoMA9r.8K8@ucdavis.edu> <2p6rb4$jgt@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 10:38:52 GMT
In article <2p6rb4$jgt@hippo.shef.ac.uk> ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) writes:
>Content-Type: text/x-nextmail
Ugh. A hack.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft=sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: play CDs through sound card over system bus?
Date: 22 Apr 1994 10:47:14 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2p86f2$2sv@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2p6tcs$7nq@times.stanford.edu>
kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft=sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software
>Is there any software which allows one to play CDs in the CD-ROM drive
>over the speakers connected to the sound-card, even when there is no
>direct connection between the CD-ROM drive and the sound-card other than
>the SCSI bus and system bus?
>
>I've got an NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM and MS-Windows Sound System ISA sound
>card on my NS/I 3.2 system, but the sound card has no internal input to
>connect directly to the CD-ROM inside the computer like many sound cards
>(SoundBlaster and PAS16 I believe are examples) seem to. I like the
>CDPlayer.app, but want the sound to come out of my speakers, not
>headphones. (And of course I could connect the speakers to the headphone
>jack of the CD-ROM drive instead of the sound-card, but then I wouldn't
>hear the system sounds, and buying 2 sets of speakers is just absurd.)
Me too. Carl Edman wrote Play3401 to do that on M68K with a Toshiba drive
and I'd like to see it work with my Apple CD300. The CDDA stuff is
performed differently. b/w drives. Especially the Toshiba...
>
>Seems like it should be possible to write software to transfer the music
>over the system bus. Might take processor cycles, but that's okay.
It is possible the software already exists plenty for the Amiga.
>
>The only other option would be to connect the output from the headphone
>jack of the CD-ROM drive back into the line-in of the sound card. This
>would require another cable.
I don't think the amplication will be large enough.
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ppp-0.3
Date: 22 Apr 1994 13:23:08 GMT
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
Message-ID: <2p8j3t$4bb@news1.digex.net>
Anyone have ppp-0.3 working on Intel? I can get a ppp connection up, but as
soon I attempt to do anything over the network, my machine reboots. My first
guess is that there is a byte ordering problem, but I am unable to find it.
Any info?
Thanks,
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From: swiet@cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Term for Nextstep?
Date: 21 Apr 1994 21:45:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <2p6s5a$hid@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <2p6mel$7a4@acme.gatech.edu>
In article <2p6mel$7a4@acme.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
writes:
|
|Someone asked a few months back if anyone had ported
|Term to nextstep.
[munch]
|and if so where I can get it.
sunsite.unc.edu:pub/Linux/comm/apps/term/term/term114.tar.gz
If I remember, all you have to do is `make next'
From: "Wesley C. Smith" <wes@arissoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there a mail app for regular mail?
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 15:14:28 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates
Message-ID: <940422101428.3154AAABF.wes@arissoft>
References: <2p44bb$j8g@acme.gatech.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>I tried using mail.app on my NS/Intel machine at home,
>and it wouldn't work on a regular mailx mail file (I renamed
>it to whatever.mbox and that didn't help). I'm curious
>if there is a mail app that does work on regular mail files?
Mail.app will read your mailbox if you make a directory called whatever.mbox
and put your mailbox file inside it and name it mbox.
>I'd really like something that did so.
Eloquent can read/write standard berkeley format mailboxes as well as NeXT
type mailboxes.
Wesley C. Smith
wes@arissoft.com MIME and NeXTmail ok
Take Three
P.O. Box 203852 (512) 837-9784
Austin, TX 78720-3852 (512) 837-8102 (fax)
From: Mark@agric.up.ac.za (Vogon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ocr software
Date: 22 Apr 1994 15:34:09 GMT
Organization: The Duty Evaders
Message-ID: <Mark.47.0@agric.up.ac.za>
I relaise I may be asking this question in the wrong news group?? or that a
multitude of FAQ's have been brought out on this topic?
But are there any ocr packages available? either low cost or shareware
thankyou
M.Vogt
Mark@agric.up.ac.za
P.S. If A FAQ is available reply to the above address
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.usenet.offline-reader
From: jabowery@netcom.com (Jim Bowery)
Subject: NeXT/UQWK Offline Reader?
Message-ID: <jaboweryCoo4C1.p9@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 15:57:36 GMT
Does anyone know of an offline reader for NeXT that can accept
packets generated by UQWK?
--
The promotion of politics exterminates apolitical genes in the population.
The promotion of frontiers gives apolitical genes a route to survival.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jabowery@netcom.com (Jim Bowery)
Subject: Lotus Notes?
Message-ID: <jaboweryCoo4zI.1r8@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 16:11:42 GMT
Does anyone know of a product that is compatible with Lotus Notes?
--
The promotion of politics exterminates apolitical genes in the population.
The promotion of frontiers gives apolitical genes a route to survival.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: GnuPlot
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <CooAsz.EM6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 18:17:23 GMT
References: <940420143130.1997AACUP.malc@jeeves>
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
In article <940420143130.1997AACUP.malc@jeeves>,
Malcolm Crawford <M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>Is anybody aware of a MAB version of GnuPlot?
>I've tried recompiling v1.2 on NS 3.2, but get more errors than I have time to
>look at for now.
>
One note: it compiles fine for one architecture, but to build
a fat binary, you must change this line in Makefile.postamble:
> < cc $(GNUPLOTFLAGS) -ObjC -O -g -c $*.c -o $(OFILE_DIR)/$*.o
> ---
> > cc $(GNUPLOTFLAGS) -arch m68k -arch i386 -ObjC -O -g -c $*.c -o $(OFILE_DIR)/$*.o
It's not the prettiest solution, but it works.
Rob
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From: drarick@panther.weeg.uiowa.edu (David Rarick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WANTED: compiled HTTPD
Date: 22 Apr 1994 18:09:06 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p93s2$52@nexus.uiowa.edu>
Does anyone have a compiled httpd for black hardware. I am trying to set
up a WWW page for an anonymous ftp archive. Please NeXTmail me the binary,
if you could.
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From: ovargas@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Summary: Which development tool?
Date: 22 Apr 1994 18:43:30 GMT
Organization: ITESM. Campus Monterrey
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p95si$2jda@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
This mail is the summary from every mail that you sent us.
Thanks everybody for your contributions and any further comments are
welcome.
PRODUCT: ART*Enterprise.
CHARACTERISTICS
ART*Enterprise is a client server development tool. It has a front end
interfase builder which users can use to build windows front-end via
point-and-click. ART*Enterprise is available on MS Windows, Unix,
OS/2 and Macintosh. Supports many ODBC compliance database such as
Sybase, Informix, SQLServer, etc. It has the added feature of a rule
base and CASE based inference engine.
PRODUCT: ENCINA FOR WINDOWS.
CHARACTERISTICS
Encina combine the benefits of a distributed, client/server architecture
with the business-critical of OLTP systems.
Encina for Windows can be used with powerful PC products such as
Microsoft's Visual Basic and Visual C++, PowerBuilder from Powersoft and
JAM from JYACC to create graphical, Windows-based Encina clients that
securely access Encina applications server.
The Encina products provide the facilities for developing deploying
large-scale distributed and client/server applications.
The Encina products family includes the Encina Core Services (Toolkit),
the Encina Monitor, the Encina Structures File Server (SFS), the Encina
Recoverable Queueing Service (RQS) and the Encina Peer-to-Peer Communications
Service (PPC).
PRODUCT'S ILOG
- ILOG BUILDER
- ILOG VIEWS
- ILOG DB LINK
- ILOG BROKER
CHARACTERISTICS
BUILDER is an interactive GUI builder for developing Motif interface. It
permits user to test the interface at any time, offers facilities to
integrate your widget classes and preserve existing software
development and is available on most standard UNIX workstations.
VIEWS is an advanced C++ library for building interactive,
graphic-interactive applications. Also, is based on a Object-Oriented
architecture which separates visual aspects from objects behavior to
provide you with class reusability and programming flexibility. VIEWS
offers standards features such as double buffering, quadtrees,
saving/restoring objects from portable ASCII files, and communicating
through sockets or PC with external processes.
DB LINK is a C++ library which integrates C++ applications and
relational databases, supports transactions management, data
manipulation, and access to the dictionary. DB LINK is capable to
supporting multiple database systems simultaneously. Also supports BLOBS
for multi-media.
BROKER is a C++ software component to implement distributed,
client/server, and groupware applications.
Typical applications include:
Applications where several different processes are simultaneously
active.
Executive information system where the same data is represented in
several different graphical views.
Technical documentation.
Command and control applications where objects are distributed.
moreover provides the following benefits:
Full C++ compatibility, simplicity, fast development cycle, reliability,
portability and standards.
and provides three functionality levels:
Distributed C++, active values, object coherence.
PRODUCT: Interface Builder with DBkit.
CHARACTERISTICS
Next's development environment is highly recommends, especially the GUI
and object-oriented support. DBKit is great for database independence
and for easy development of simple applications, but really break down
for complex OO programs, however on the market exists the Access Kit from
VNP software, which uses the low level DBKit features to the independence.
Access Kit provide a much better foundation for object-oriented database
clients.
Nextstep's object-oriented architecture is what made the development and
maintenance efforts so attractive compared with everything else on the
market.
Nextstep's Objective-C language combines the performance of C with the
flexibility of Smalltalk to provide a very nice development environment
that offer good performance as well.
PRODUCT: OpenUI.
CHARACTERISTICS
OpenUI is a user interface management system.
OpenUI has:
GUI builder for interactive layout and editing of UI.
Runs on many GUI platforms.
Has object oriented graphics.
Completely native look and feel.
Quick and powerful GUI development.
Message oriented API for C, C++, Pascal and COBOL.
GUI coding is done in a specially designed OO language.
Allows you to generate your own UI classes and following in house
standards.
Include help system.
Client server for MS Window PC's.
No royalties.
PRODUCT: UNIFY VISION.
CHARACTERISTICS
UNIFY VISION is a multiple database cross-platform,
object-oriented, GUI development system that allows you to develop fully
functional database access applications anywhere (UNIX, MS Windows,
Windows NT, Macintosh), and deploy them everywhere.
If additional functionality is need, the VISION 4GL script is
very powerful, with the ability to incorporate 3GL or external functions
into 4GL.
An applications has the ability, through HDA (Heterogeneous Database
Access), to access tables from multiples data sources at the same time.
From: pedja@cs.umd.edu (& Bogdanovich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Term for Nextstep?
Date: 22 Apr 1994 18:52:32 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <PEDJA.94Apr22145232@midgard.cs.umd.edu>
References: <2p6mel$7a4@acme.gatech.edu> <Con34D.Guu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
In-reply-to: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu's message of Fri, 22 Apr 1994 02:33:49 GMT
In article <Con34D.Guu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer) writes:
>> A version of term is included (as "TipTop Goodies") in the shareware
>> app, "TipTop" (by Pedja Bogdanovich, pedja%luka@umiacs.umd.edu).
The version included in the "Goodies" package is 1.07 which does NOT
work anymore. The latest version of term is available form:
tartarus.uwa.edu.au:/pub/oreillym/term/term114.tar.gz
Pedja
From: samurai@wsc.com (Darcy Brockbank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Date: 22 Apr 1994 16:48:49 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those
held by WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <2p8v5h$pe0@cerberus.wsc.com>
References: <2p61sk$hk@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
In article <2p61sk$hk@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu
(Glenn Brown) writes:
> "You are licensed to use the NeXT
> Software to output bitmaps generated by the PostScript interpreter"
> That means no Dots and no Gnu Ghostscript if your NeXT created the PS
> code you want to print. Harsh!
Um, while the license mentions "bitmaps" you don't mention if it
says anything about what you can do with the PostScript "code"
you've generated. I assume that you can render that PS
code with GhostScript for output wherever you like.
Note that the PS code generated by printing is not output from
the PostScript interpreter...
Someone else should verify/correct this though.
- darcy
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Date: 22 Apr 1994 21:19:47 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2p9f1j$is4@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <2p61sk$hk@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> <2p8v5h$pe0@cerberus.wsc.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <2p61sk$hk@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu
(Glenn Brown) writes:
> "You are licensed to use the NeXT
> Software to output bitmaps generated by the PostScript interpreter"
> That means no Dots and no Gnu Ghostscript if your NeXT created the PS
> code you want to print. Harsh!
Just a short note: Goldleaf's printing products come with the
appropriate Adobe license.
Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Building Swapdisk
References: <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 09:07:33 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Apr22.090733.538@proximus.north.de>
If you want a drive entirely used as a swapdisk, just build it with
BuildDisk.app and name your disk... "swapdisk". ;-)
Gerhard.
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In article <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead>,
Bob Jones <thewoz!lagerhead!bob@netcom.com> wrote:
>I recently added a large external drive to my slab and I am trying to figure out how to use
>the 105 internal for a swap disk. Changing the default file location in /etc/swaptab didn't
>seem to work - the system hung on reboot. Librarian say to use BuildDisk and it will tell by
>the size that you want this to be a swapdisk, however I think that is something left over
>from the old days with the cubes and their 40mb swapdisks.
>
>If someone could point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. TIA
>
>-Bob (bob@id.com)
>
>NeXTmail gladly accepted :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Tape backup software?
References: <2odjac$nun@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 09:21:28 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Apr22.092128.647@proximus.north.de>
In article <2odjac$nun@news.acns.nwu.edu>, <mallen@nwu.edu> wrote:
>Hi. I just got a SCSI tape-drive as "payment" from a friend who had inherited
>several hodge-podge pieces of computer equipement, and I was wondering a couple
>of things.
>
>a) Will my NeXT/Mach and/or UNIX recognize this as a tape drive?
Which drive?
Generally, yes, but you have to use fixed block size, see the FAQ for
a simple C program on how to achieve this.
>b) Does UNIX have tape back-up commands built in or do I have rely on a 3rd
> party vendors? (Especially since this drive is for around 155 MB tapes,
> and my hard drive is 340 MB.)
155 MB?? I hope you meant 150MB, wich looks like QIC150 standard.
Multi-volume is on (esp. old) tapes a problem, since the ANSI standard
of SCSI commands to be supported by tapes does not specify sufficent
commands (EOM). However, there are UNIX-tools that allow you to
explicitely tell them the size of the media. For example afio (which
is an extended cpio) or gnutar.
This also answers the question about back up software:
* cpio (better: gcpio (GNU), best: afio)
* tar (best: gnutar)
* pax (understands cpio and tar)
* dump/restore (look at the Sysadmin online manual with DL)
>c) Anyone got a spare SCSI cable and a terminator they'd part with for cheap?
> (Cable must be have male ends and terminator must also be male.)
I guess the shops have dozens of them - in fact they have so many
spare terminators left over, they even sell them... ;-) (Com'on, a
terminator is 5 USD, a cable 15-30...)
>Any help would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks.
You're welcome.
Gerhard.
--
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e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Tape backup software?
References: <2odjac$nun@news.acns.nwu.edu> <1994Apr13.064754.19036@seer.demon.co.uk>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 09:25:07 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Apr22.092507.777@proximus.north.de>
In article <1994Apr13.064754.19036@seer.demon.co.uk>,
Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[...tape-drive...]
>Yes. Look up dump, tar and cpio. Then buy SafetyNet :-).
NO!
SafetyNet is a really GREAT program (I have to admit, Brian, great work!
;-) ) but it does NOT SUPPORT TAPES, ONLY DATS, EXABYTES and DISKS. So
it won't help you.
Gerhard.
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e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e
X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X
T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T
+-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail and MIME?
Date: 22 Apr 1994 17:41:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p928p$gtg@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2p8cte$f2t@news.intercon.com>
In article <2p8cte$f2t@news.intercon.com> disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti) writes:
>Hi Todd,
>
>: Strong rumors exist about NeXT employees using MIME capable mail
>: programs. Someone posted the header of a message he/she received
>: from NeXT that implied it was generated by a MIME system.
>
>Hmmm... So I'll keep waiting on this development until there is
>something official, I suppose.
You have 3 choices, one free, two commercial in the meantime.
"Pine" is terminal based, but has a decent interface. It compiles
fine with no modifications and handles MIME OK.
Echelon is inexpensive and handles both NeXTMail and MIME.
Eloquent is a bit expensive, but is full of features. It is also
a newsreader and can access IMAP mailboxes. Demos are avaialble
from the archives.
I use the following script to make links to NeXT Mail mailboxes to
Pine's mailboxes. So I can get at most of my mails via rlogin.
---
#!/bin/sh
# link2pine
# This script sym-links all NeXT Mail mailboxes to pine's mail directory.
if [ -d ~/mail ]; then
echo Linking NeXT mail boxes to Pine mail boxes...
for i in `/bin/ls -1 ~/Mailboxes`
do
case $i in
*) if [ -f ~/Mailboxes/$i/mbox ]; then
BASE=`basename $i .mbox`
ln -s ~/Mailboxes/$i/mbox ~/mail/$BASE
echo $BASE
else
echo '## '$i' is not a NeXT Mail box.'
fi
;;
esac
done
echo Done.
else
echo 'Directory "mail" does not exist for Pine in your home directory.'
echo 'Run "pine" first.'
fi
exit 0
----
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT and MIME mails OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson)
Subject: need nn newsreader for NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Apr22.205220.22840@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 20:52:20 GMT
Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the newsreader nn that has
been compiled for the NeXT? Or better yet, can some kind soul send it to
me in compiled form?
Or does anyone know of another newsreader I can set up easily on the NeXT
at work, and which I can access from home from my mac with kermit? I used
to use nn for this, but it recently decided to stop working.
Thanks,
Bill Anderson
From: dan@sw.stratus.com (Dan Danz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Transfer -- Are they alive
Date: 22 Apr 1994 22:06:37 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2p9hpd$mgr@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <1994Apr19.001851.361@weston.com>
In article <1994Apr19.001851.361@weston.com>, jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes:
> If anyone has any concrete information on how to get a hold of someone who
> can sell this prodcut, please pass it along.
I'd also like to know what happened to Pinnacle Research ...
I've got a new laptop running NSFIP and can't find anybody who'll
tell me how to get a license for VirtSpace.
Replies via mail please --- I'm packing up and heading
for Australia for a few years, and it will be a while
before I read this group again.
--
L. W. "Dan" Danz (WA5SKM) VOS Mail: Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com
Senior Consultant SMTP/NeXT Mail: dan@az.stratus.com
Worldwide Customer Service (602) 852-3107, (800) 828-8513
Stratus Computer, Inc. 4455 East Camelback #115-A, Phoenix AZ 85018
Control: cancel <CoJIEz.vH@world.std.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sngmedia@world.std.com
Subject: cmsg cancel <CoJIEz.vH@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 04:13:46 GMT
Message-ID: <cancel.CoJIEz.vH@world.std.com>
MARKET SURVEY
From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Webster
Date: 23 Apr 1994 05:28:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Apr23012817@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
How come in Webster.app preferences, search-by-other-word is no longer
selectable??
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Re: How do you remove a bookmark from omniweb?
Message-ID: <Cop59q.MJL@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <2p27ep$fa0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 05:18:54 GMT
In article <2p27ep$fa0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James
Nielsen) writes:
> In article <CoJ70I.G6z@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
> > ???
> > replies >> comp.sys.next.software
>
> You can always go in and edit the Bookmarks.html document using Edit.app.
> Assuming you are using the latest version of OmniWeb, this file exists in
> ~/Library/OmniWeb. The format is fairly understandable.
>
> -jamey.
Thanks all!!, JIM
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: SoftPC doesn't work with DOS partition
Date: 23 Apr 1994 08:28:56 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2pam88$hfo@Times.Stanford.EDU>
I finally loaded up SoftPC and figured out how to get access to my DOS
partition (using preferences, mounting DOS partition as drive D: as per
the on-line help). Problem is, most of the directories (all except \DOS
pretty much) are unreadable, and I get the typical DOS retry, irnore,
etc. message trying to do a DIR on them.
Is this a problem with the fact that SoftPC is only DOS 5.0, while the
DOS on my DOS partition is 6.2? If so, I can't believe this isn't
mentioned anywhere in the on-line help. No mention under
troubleshooting, under the section on mounting DOS partitions, or
_anywhere_ that I could find. Argh!
Is that it, or is there something else I'm missing? If version
incompatibility is the culprit, what's the easiest way to get the DOS
partition back into a form DOS 5.0 likes?
People dreaming of SoftPC be forewarned!
-Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: Re: Pages tech support is wonderful!
Message-ID: <1994Apr22.180549.2773@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <2p6kqc$9pm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 18:05:49 GMT
In article <2p6kqc$9pm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU
(Todd Takken) writes:
>
> I haven't had Pages long enough to know much about the software
yet.
> However, their technical support people are more actively helpful
than any
> software company from which I have ever made a purchase.
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
Pages called us, asked what we thought, were seriously interested in
our reasons for wanting a design model that would allow us to do
wrong and/or stupid things. We were impressed.
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: NeXT/UQWK Offline Reader?
Message-ID: <1994Apr23.012841.3825@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <jaboweryCoo4C1.p9@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 01:28:41 GMT
In article <jaboweryCoo4C1.p9@netcom.com> jabowery@netcom.com (Jim Bowery)
writes:
> Does anyone know of an offline reader for NeXT that can accept
> packets generated by UQWK?
There is always ATP for QWK packets. Its a terminal app and I use
emacs to compose my replies but it has all the standard features of
a QWK reader, just not GUI front end. Someone who wants to program
their way to glory could always put a NS front end on it.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
BIX: rlove
-----------------------------------------------------------------
From: sams@nbivax.nbi.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GnuPlot
Message-ID: <1994Apr23.093146.1610@nbivax.nbi.dk>
Date: 23 Apr 94 09:31:46 +0200
References: <940420143130.1997AACUP.malc@jeeves> <CooAsz.EM6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Organization: Niels Bohr Institute and Nordita, Copenhagen
In article <CooAsz.EM6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes:
> In article <940420143130.1997AACUP.malc@jeeves>,
> Malcolm Crawford <M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>Is anybody aware of a MAB version of GnuPlot?
>>I've tried recompiling v1.2 on NS 3.2, but get more errors than I have time to
>>look at for now.
>>
Version 3.5 is on prep.ai.mit.edu: pub/gnu/gnuplot-3.5.tar.gz
It works fine for me on NS 3.1
/thomas sams
>
> One note: it compiles fine for one architecture, but to build
> a fat binary, you must change this line in Makefile.postamble:
>
>
>> < cc $(GNUPLOTFLAGS) -ObjC -O -g -c $*.c -o $(OFILE_DIR)/$*.o
>> ---
>> > cc $(GNUPLOTFLAGS) -arch m68k -arch i386 -ObjC -O -g -c $*.c -o $(OFILE_DIR)/$*.o
>
>
> It's not the prettiest solution, but it works.
>
>
> Rob
> --
> | Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
> | "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
> --
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.basic.misc
Subject: Re: BASIC for NeXT computers
Message-ID: <940422.083811.9y2.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:38:11 MDT
References: <2oks3h$766@network.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
hcraig@ucsd.edu writes:
> Can anyone advise me as to where I can get a good BASIC compiler for
> NeXTStep? I have the Chipmunk Basic, but it is rudimentary, and I
> really want one that can do MAT commands on arrays. (I have several
> hundred programs that I wrote for my old Prime Computer, which had
> the best BASIC I have ever seen, but it won't run with NeXTStep.
does it need to be a compiler? if not, archie for bwbasic (?).
is translating basic to C an option?
--
Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: jbn@owens.slip.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages tech support is wonderful!
Date: 23 Apr 94 16:17:58 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.767117878@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <2p6kqc$9pm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <1994Apr22.180549.2773@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) writes:
>Pages called us, asked what we thought, were seriously interested in
>our reasons for wanting a design model that would allow us to do
>wrong and/or stupid things.
In this context, what are those things and how are they "wrong" or
"stupid"?
--
*NO* NeXTmail please
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GnuPlot
Date: 23 Apr 1994 16:26:10 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2pbi72$261@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <940420143130.1997AACUP.malc@jeeves> <CooAsz.EM6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <1994Apr23.093146.1610@nbivax.nbi.dk>
sams@nbivax.nbi.dk wrote:
: In article <CooAsz.EM6@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes:
: > In article <940420143130.1997AACUP.malc@jeeves>,
: > Malcolm Crawford <M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> wrote:
: >>
: >>Is anybody aware of a MAB version of GnuPlot?
: >>I've tried recompiling v1.2 on NS 3.2, but get more errors than I have time
: >>to look at for now.
: >>
: Version 3.5 is on prep.ai.mit.edu: pub/gnu/gnuplot-3.5.tar.gz
: It works fine for me on NS 3.1
: /thomas sams
:
Apologies for the confusion: I was referring to Robert Davis' excellent
GnuPlot.app front end to gnuplot.
Many thanks to Robert for helping out with my problem.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: NewsGrazer Pro or NewsGrazer...
Message-ID: <1994Apr22.023139.5655@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 02:31:39 GMT
Will NewsGrazer Pro ever ship? If so, when. When will NeXT release an
updated version (> 75.0) of NewsGrazer?
Inquiring Minds Want To Know...
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
From: calderd@ott.hookup.net (Richard Lacelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: play3401 on Intel
Date: 21 Apr 1994 21:18:30 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: ontario
Message-ID: <2p6qj6$bt1@relay.tor.hookup.net>
Haas anyone got play3401 to work on intel, if so, could you please
NeXTMAIL me a compiled version of it to calderd@ott.hookup.net or tell me
how you compiled it.
Richard Lacelle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: ocr software
Message-ID: <1994Apr23.112903.15031@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <Mark.47.0@agric.up.ac.za>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 11:29:03 GMT
In article <Mark.47.0@agric.up.ac.za> Mark@agric.up.ac.za (Vogon) writes:
> I relaise I may be asking this question in the wrong news group?? or
that a
> multitude of FAQ's have been brought out on this topic?
>
> But are there any ocr packages available? either low cost or shareware
Low cost is OCR Servant, now from Metrosoft.
Others include:
ExpressOCR (Visus), eXTRAREAD (Goldleaf) and ElectroWorX (Insight).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jcruz@animal.inescn.pt (Jose Manuel de Magalhaes Cruz)
Subject: X server for NeXT 3.0
Message-ID: <Coq25p.KvC@animal.inescn.pt>
Organization: INESC-Porto, Portugal
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 17:05:48 GMT
Hello,
Can someone tell me if there is a public domain implementation
of an X server for NeXT machines running NeXTStep 3.0, and, if affirmative,
where I could get it from?
Many thanks.
Jose Magalhaes Cruz
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXTMail and MIME?
Date: 22 Apr 1994 22:28:38 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2p9fi6$2as@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2p639s$diu@news.intercon.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti) writes:
>Does NeXT have any plans to support MIME in their Mail.app? I understand
>there are some 3rd party MIME mailers (I couldn't locate them on the net
>this morning, though), but I'm really hoping that NeXT, Inc. won't miss
>the MIME boat, as it were.
I heard from a NeXT rep at CeBit fair that MIME support is included in 3.3
which is to be released Q3/94.
Regards,
Markus.
--
.sig got a SIGKILL signal.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
From: fleminmk@fe808.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Fleming)
Subject: Re: SoftPC doesn't work with DOS partition
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <fleminmk.767149690@fe808.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 01:08:10 GMT
Distribution: inet
References: <2pam88$hfo@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Purdue Data Network
kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes:
>I finally loaded up SoftPC and figured out how to get access to my DOS
>partition (using preferences, mounting DOS partition as drive D: as per
>the on-line help). Problem is, most of the directories (all except \DOS
>pretty much) are unreadable, and I get the typical DOS retry, irnore,
>etc. message trying to do a DIR on them.
You know, I had an *exactly identical* problem to that. The DOS partion in 60
megs and it was formated under 5.0. Only the root directory was readable,
and I could only run programs in the root directly.
Suddenly, as if by magic, it started working.
I have *no* idea what the deal is. All I can say is: I'm very displeased
about something so basic not working reliably.
Oh, and BTW: *NEVER* run any Microsoft install programs through SoftPC.
BIG loss.
Mike
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Ph for Intel?
Date: 24 Apr 1994 04:00:44 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2pcqtc$2mg@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Does anyone know of a working or easy buildable copy Ph for Intel?
I pulled the Ph 2.02 and 2.04 from cs.orst.edu, but its seems like
it would take some work to get either to run.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: Re: Pages tech support is wonderful!
Message-ID: <1994Apr23.200008.1615@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <jbn.767117878@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 20:00:08 GMT
In article <jbn.767117878@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
jbn@owens.slip.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) writes:
> >Pages called us, asked what we thought, were seriously interested
in
> >our reasons for wanting a design model that would allow us to do
> >wrong and/or stupid things.
>
> In this context, what are those things and how are they "wrong" or
> "stupid"?
> --
> *NO* NeXTmail please
For example, 18 point type is not allowed in any of the current
design models (as far as I could tell), except in headlines. "wrong
and/or studid" should have been followed by :-)
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: NeXT/UQWK Offline Reader?
Message-ID: <CorIz9.A7@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994Apr23.012841.3825@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 12:06:44 GMT
In article <1994Apr23.012841.3825@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
writes:
> In article <jaboweryCoo4C1.p9@netcom.com> jabowery@netcom.com (Jim Bowery)
> writes:
> > Does anyone know of an offline reader for NeXT that can accept
> > packets generated by UQWK?
I had a similar problem once. I found it easiest to write a perl-script which hacks a bunch of
collected stuff from the the bbs into news format. Then use your favorite newsgrazer.
BTW. Whoever requested me mailing this script earlier - the mail bounced.
Juergen
---
Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok )
Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new generation of soap powder ?
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Ph for Intel?
Date: 24 Apr 1994 18:08:50 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2pecji$b47@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <2pcqtc$2mg@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <2pcqtc$2mg@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
(Jerry Weiss) writes:
>
> Does anyone know of a working or easy buildable copy Ph for Intel?
>
I had the same question last week, and the author (Rex Pruess)
advised me to get the Ph 3.03 sources from his ftp site, ftp.uiowa.edu
It built on my Intel box under 3.2 with no problems. I had to make
a couple of permission changes to make it runnable by anyone, but that
was all it needed.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: A plea from a notebook user
Date: 24 Apr 1994 19:29:35 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2pehav$6lq@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I was having a lot of fun with my new notebook yesterday, until I started
up the MicroPhone script editor and realized that the window is
larger than the notebook screen and so I can neither resize it nor
have access to any of the interface below the screen edge except for the
Okay button, which a CR gets from anywhere.
Some kind soul sent me a VirtSpace demo and now I realize that this window
can't even be shrunk to fit inside the notebook window.
Okay, I will accept the reality - I need VirtSpace on my notebook. At least I
can move the script editor around and eventually have access to the whole
thing.
But - interface designers out there in Net-land - remember that we're
not all working on 17" monitors all day!!!
Y'all are designing living space for the Great Plains - and some of us
spend a lot of time in what is more like a Tokyo airport hotel.
Size isn't everything, ya know ;-)
-patricia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Pages tech support is wonderful!
Message-ID: <1994Apr24.184736.18325@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994Apr23.200008.1615@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 18:47:36 GMT
In article <1994Apr23.200008.1615@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> leif@pattern.rmnug.org
(Leif Smith) writes:
> For example, 18 point type is not allowed in any of the current
> design models (as far as I could tell), except in headlines. "wrong
> and/or studid" should have been followed by :-)
I wasn't aware that Pages would let you find out what type size you were
using.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: RightBrain's Rulers?
Message-ID: <1994Apr22.180428.4549@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <20APR199415465745@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 18:04:28 GMT
In article <20APR199415465745@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes:
* Hi. Back in the "good ole days", Glenn Reid's RightBrain
* sold a product called "Rulers". Anybody have an idea where
* Rulers can be purchased today?
We -- Trilithon Software -- took over Rulers and PortFolio from RightBrain.
PRODUCTS AVAILABLE FROM TRILITHON SOFTWARE
LabelWorks -- NEXTSTEP Labelling Application.
MacToPfa -- Mac to NeXT font converter and installer.
PfbToPfa -- PC to NeXT font converter and installer.
ViewFont -- Simple font viewer.
Rulers -- General purpose floating rulers.
PortFolio -- Graphic Image Organiser and Browser.
PowerCalc -- Multi-function calculator set.
Write To: Trilithon Software,
3000 Alpine Road,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 851-7901
FAX: (415) 851-7902
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Where to get Font package
Message-ID: <1994Apr23.025341.6199@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <ConB9p.1Er@beach.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 02:53:41 GMT
In article <ConB9p.1Er@beach.com> root@beach (Operator) writes:
* Somebody out there has to have these fonts: Umbra, Futura,
* Galliard, Tekton I know because I've used them on the NeXT
* platform. Can anyone tell me where I can get them?
We [Trilithon Software] are an authorised Adobe re-seller and can
supply fonts from the Adobe Type Library in a format suitable for
use on NEXTSTEP.
Write To: Trilithon Software,
3000 Alpine Road,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 851-7901
FAX: (415) 851-7902
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
From: nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is MATLAB available?
Date: 24 Apr 1994 16:43:31 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Message-ID: <2pep63$mj4@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Does anyone know if MATLAB is available for black hardware?
Neal Howland
nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: trance9@clark.net (Trance 9)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help! I can't get outgoing News!
Date: 24 Apr 1994 18:17:47 -0400
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <2per6b$mv0@explorer.clark.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi All,
I've recently gone back to UUCP from slip, and after renistalling CNEWS,
I'm unable to get outgoing news. Incoming news works just fine, but my
new newsgrazer posts get put in /usr/spool/news/in.coming instead of
out.going. Then, onece newsrun happens, they get put in
/usr/spool/news/in.coming/bad. They get put in my local folders and I
can read them, but the world at large never gets to see them (I know,
maybe thats a good thing----> :-) ) Anyway, if anyonce has any
suggestions please drop me an e-note at jmeacham@ants.ci.net (not this
address, which my brothr has been kind enough to let me use until I get
this straigtened out. Thanks in advance.
Peace,
_____________________________________________________________________
James David Meacham, 3rd
M.Div. Candidate
Andover Newton Theological School e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net
7 Flint Road Phone: 617-926-6024
Watertown, MA 02172 NeXTMAIL accepted
Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street
First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116
(Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730
_____________________________________________________________________
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages tech support is wonderful!
Date: 24 Apr 1994 23:24:22 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2pev36$fh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <1994Apr23.200008.1615@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <1994Apr24.184736.18325@seer.demon.co.uk>
In article <1994Apr24.184736.18325@seer.demon.co.uk>,
Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <1994Apr23.200008.1615@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> leif@pattern.rmnug.org
>(Leif Smith) writes:
>> For example, 18 point type is not allowed in any of the current
>> design models (as far as I could tell), except in headlines. "wrong
>> and/or studid" should have been followed by :-)
>
>I wasn't aware that Pages would let you find out what type size you were
>using.
>
>Paul
>--
>Paul Lynch
You can't - point size is NOT selectable. You can increase or decrease
at what seems like .3 at a time: clicking a button repeatedly.
As far as I'm concerned, the 3 Design Models are inadequate
(I'm doing academic reports and papers). But in theory it's
a great app. If I were in business, it would be. But a lot
of us are doing university stuff.
R. de Lucca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems running apps
Message-ID: <1994Apr24.212447.31837@husc14.harvard.edu>
From: ibhan@digitas2.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Date: 24 Apr 94 21:24:47 EDT
I've been having problems running software I've downloaded on a NeXTCube
our organization has recently received. We are running an old version of
NeXTStep (2.1), but I expected apps to work. New programs I try to run
give me the error: [process exited] in a window. Please e-mail any
insights.
--
Ishir Bhan finger ibhan@ibhan.student.harvard.edu
ibhan@husc.harvard.edu http://ibhan.student.harvard.edu/home.html
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dwrite for Frame to limit window depth on color NeXT?
Date: 25 Apr 1994 02:07:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2pf8kp$rhh@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2pf061$clf@mtu.edu>
In article <2pf061$clf@mtu.edu> russell@math.mtu.edu (Russell Reid) writes:
>FrameMaker has the slows on my color (non-turbo) NeXTstation. I've been
>told that there's a problem with Frame promoting windows to color,
>correctable with something resembling
>dwrite FrameMaker LimitWindowDepth
No, don't limit window depth for FrameMaker.
The problem is actually the opposite. On color machines,
FrameMaker is slow because window depth does not promote until
you use non-gray color once. Somehow, there's a tremendous
overhead for FrameMaker when windows remain at TwoBitGray and
the VRAM is 12-Bit deep.
Solution is to actively promote the window depth to the
actual depth of VRAM, so that they are matched.
To do this, use a color once (e.g., put a RED '.' in tiny font
size on the first page of the document). Once the color is
displayed and window depth promoted, FrameMaker speeds up!
I don't know of any dwrite which circumvents lazy window promotion
so FrameMaker windows are opened in RGB depth even if no color is
used.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RE: NXBench code
Date: 24 Apr 1994 18:26:11 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2pedk3$ino@news.worldlink.com>
How can I get the NXBench code so that I can test various configuration
myself? In light of the absence of NeXTWorld, this seems to be the only
prudent move remaining. Thanks in advance.
Peace,
James
p00378@psilink.com
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I want my scroll bars to be left sided?
Date: 25 Apr 1994 13:12:07 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2pgc2n$fq@steffi.demon.co.uk>
I'm running Emacs 19.22 (NS) . For all intents and purposes the same
as the X window system support.
How can I put my scrollbars on the left hand side instead of the
right?
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems running apps
Date: 25 Apr 1994 09:12:34 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404251407.AA05887@cantina.lanl.gov>
Ishir Bhan wrote:
> I've been having problems running software I've downloaded
> on a NeXTCube our organization has recently received.
> We are running an old version of NeXTStep (2.1), but I
> expected apps to work. New programs I try to run give
> me the error: [process exited] in a window. Please e-mail
> any insights.
For me this usually happens when the App can't find some file it
is looking for, e.g., not knowing its directory. This could
result from the fact that Apps are actually directories in 3.x
("folders"), but were single files in 2.x and earlier.
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: play3401 on Intel
In-Reply-To: calderd@ott.hookup.net's message of 21 Apr 1994 21:18:30 GMT
To: calderd@ott.hookup.net (Richard Lacelle)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr21201200@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2p6qj6$bt1@relay.tor.hookup.net>
Distribution: ontario
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 00:12:00 GMT
In article <2p6qj6$bt1@relay.tor.hookup.net> calderd@ott.hookup.net (Richard Lacelle) writes:
Haas anyone got play3401 to work on intel, if so, could you please
NeXTMAIL me a compiled version of it to calderd@ott.hookup.net or tell me
how you compiled it.
To the best of my knowledge nobody has. There are still a few pesky
byte ordering problem on NS/FIP. Unfortunately I don't have an NS/FIP
machine (yet) and considering how much trial and error is involved in
getting things to work just right, I've no intention of putting out a
new version for NS/FIP, waiting a few weeks until somebody sends in an
intelligible error report, putting out a new slightly tweaked version,
a.s.o. for a dozen iterations until it is done right.
I wrote play3401 one night and I'm sure any competent programmer with
an NS/FIP system and a Toshiba 3401 drive could iron out those
problems in less than an hour. Unfortunately nobody seems to be
willing to do that and as long as that doesn't change and I don't buy
an NS/FIP system play3401 won't run on little-endian machines.
Carl Edman
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone have the NeXT-compiled MCTeX package?
Date: 25 Apr 1994 15:13:23 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2pgmmj$2tv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I couldn't find this at sonata or orst.
Thanks,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dkk@hrdave (cb.general)
Subject: Monterscope
Message-ID: <CotM8p.5xv@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 15:12:24 GMT
Folks,
There was an application in 2.1 days I believe called
Monterscope that let you record a sound and do a frequency
analysis on it. Does anyone have a copy or is there a
replacement?
Thanks.
Dave Kallman
----
Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748
d_k_kallman@att.com, (800)824-3785 or (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Subject: Taylor-uucp, V42b, ZyXEL
Message-ID: <CotIB2.DD@hazel.north.de>
Sender: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Organization: Great Mathematical Developments, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 13:47:25 GMT
I do have a communication problem. Settings:
A B
ZyXEL U1496S V 6.01a M ZyXEL 1496 - ROM version unknown
Black 3.2 White 3.1
Taylor-uucp -x5 Taylor-uucp -x5
38400/ZyXEL V42b 19200/ZyXEL V42b
ttydfb ttydfb
Protocol: i-1024/16. Ordinary terrestrial line.
Both machines do nothing except uucp during this test.
Symptoms:
A and B are exchanging packets and ACKs happily; packets take a few
seconds, ACKs a fraction of a second.
Then suddenly a packet or ACK takes a long time (dozens of seconds up to
more than a minute).
This happens in both directions.
Where does this packet stay all this time? In uucp buffers? In unix
buffers? in modem buffers? And on which side?
A ZyXEL problem, a Taylor problem, a NS problem?
How can I find out?
Note: the original packet does arrive after a minute, anything following
it also arrives in sequence (including any retransmissions of the delayed
packet), nothing gets lost - the line behaves like a perfect fifo buffer
in both directions, only there is this occasional delay of a minute.
This also happens communicating with other modems, with other protocols
('g' for example), with other machines.
Does anyone know the FAX numvber of ZyXEL and their INTERNET address?
Gerriet.
From: igerard@bipbip.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I want my scroll bars to be left sided?
Date: 25 Apr 1994 16:54:49 GMT
Organization: INA, Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Bry-sur-Marne, France
Message-ID: <2pgskp$ho7@wolfy.ina.fr>
References: <2pgc2n$fq@steffi.demon.co.uk>
In article <2pgc2n$fq@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk
(Robert Nicholson) writes:
> I'm running Emacs 19.22 (NS) . For all intents and purposes the same
> as the X window system support.
>
> How can I put my scrollbars on the left hand side instead of the
> right?
> --
> "Kill files are for pacifists"
>
> (ASCII for text only messages)
You can recompose the scrollView object by overriding the "- tile" method,
see the AppKit example : ScrollDoodScroll.
----------->>>>>>>>>>>>
- tile
/*
* tile gets called whenever the scrollView changes size.
* Its job is to resize all of the scrollView's "tiled" views
* (scrollers, contentView and any other views we might want
* to place in the scrollView's bounds).
*/
{
/* the rect of the different subviews */
NXRect scrollerVRect;
/* resize and arrange the scrollers and contentView as usual */
[super tile];
/* get the usual rects of the subviews */
// for example :
[vScroller getFrame:&scrollerVRect];
/* reorganize the frame of this view as you want : */
/* readjust others subviews to maintain the coherence */
// and that's all
return self;
}
<<<<<<<<<-------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gerard Iglesias, Email : igerard@ina.fr
Computer Graphics researcher computer aided cartoon design
--- ---
realize a CAC on SGI platform but wait to move under NEXTSTEP
NEXTSTEP on SGI !!!!!!!!!!!!
--- ---
INA-Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Phone (33) (1) 49832930
94366 Bry sur Marne Cedex, France Fax (33) (1) 49832582
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: rudloff@gaveau.u-strasbg.fr (Rudloff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: For Paper economies
Date: 25 Apr 1994 16:02:36 GMT
Organization: Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg (France)
Message-ID: <2pgpis$h5q@thot.u-strasbg.fr>
I'm looking for a App that would print two PostScript page on the same and
so reduce the paper quantity by 2.
(When I want to print a ps document from Preview, the PageLayout is
disabled).
Thanks
--
--------------------------------------------------------------
David Rudloff e-mail: rudloff@steinway.u-strasbg.fr
--------------------------------------------------------------
ERIC (Equipe de Recherche en Ingenierie des connaissanes)
ENSAIS
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Software for backup DOS with DAT
Date: 25 Apr 1994 16:04:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2pgplp$458@news.service.uci.edu>
I am going to get an Archive Python DAT drive for my NeXT Intel machine.
I know how to do backup with dump or tar with Next, but how can I back up
my DOS partitions under either DOS or Windows? Do I need any special
software?
Thank you.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-725-3105
From: brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail and MIME?
Date: 25 Apr 1994 16:27:58 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO
Message-ID: <2pgr2e$l37@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
References: <1994Apr22.103852.1367@prim.demon.co.uk>
Dave Griffiths writes
> In article <2p6rb4$jgt@hippo.shef.ac.uk> ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M
Crawford) writes:
>
> >Content-Type: text/x-nextmail
>
> Ugh. A hack.
Ugh. A moron.
This is not a hack.
It is a way to incorporate the current NeXTMail format into MIME. And it is
the correct way to do it. Right now, if someone in NeXT wants to send some
multimedia mail out to someone else in the NeXT world, NeXTMail is _THE_ way
to do it. MIME on the NeXTs isn't ubiquitous.
But this shows that they are supporting MIME. Have some faith.
brian
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MATLAB for the NeXT?
Date: 24 Apr 1994 19:47:56 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <2peidc$fqu@news.u.washington.edu>
Does anyone know if there is an implementation of MATLAB which will run
under NeXTSTEP? If so, who is the appropriate contact?
Thanks for the help!
From: jvalero@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Jesus Valero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Object-Oriented CASE
Date: 25 Apr 1994 16:39:42 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <2pgroe$1vki@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
Does anybody know any Object-Oriented CASE for NextStep?
This CASE must have the next features:
- Object Modeling
- Data Modeling
- Dynamic Modeling
- Functional Modeling
Also, I would Like to know if anybody knows any project management tools
and project control tools (version control tools) for NextStep?
Thanks.
--
Ing. Jesus Valero Torrero Voice : 58-20-00 Ext. 4103
ITESM, Campus Monterrey NeXT mail: jvalero@roxette.mty.itesm.mx
Sotano del CETEC e-mail : jvalero@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: For Paper economies
Date: 25 Apr 1994 19:02:51 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2ph44r$j4i@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <2pgpis$h5q@thot.u-strasbg.fr>
Rudloff (rudloff@gaveau.u-strasbg.fr) wrote:
: I'm looking for a App that would print two PostScript page on the same and
: so reduce the paper quantity by 2.
:
: (When I want to print a ps document from Preview, the PageLayout is
: disabled).
:
Try
man psnup
...
PSNUP(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual PSNUP(1)
NAME
psnup - Print multiple pages on a sheet of paper.
SYNOPSIS
psnup [ -rG ] [ -nnupspec ] [ -Spapersize ] [ -spagesize ] [
-poutputfile ] [ -Pprinter ] [ -dprinter ] [ file ]
DESCRIPTION
psnup reads in a POSTSCRIPT file (or the standard input if
no file is named), and if the input conforms to the
POSTSCRIPT file structuring conventions, provides page rota-
tion, printing of multiple pages on a sheet of paper (n-up
printing), selection of page and paper sizes, and writes the
resulting file on the standard output. The output may be
directed to a file.
The possible options are:
-n nupspec
nupspec may be a single number, specifying how many
POSTSCRIPT pages will be printed on each sheet of
paper, or a specification of the form: n x m, where n
and m specify rows and columns, respectively. Rows
refers to the number of page images across a sheet of
paper, columns to the number of page images down a
sheet of paper. The specification -n 2x2 is
equivalent to the specification -n 4. If the number of
pages on a sheet is pecified as a single number, the
number must be a power of 2.
...
etc.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there a mail app for regular mail?
Date: 25 Apr 94 17:09:27 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.767293767@maotai>
References: <2p44bb$j8g@acme.gatech.edu>
gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) writes:
>I tried using mail.app on my NS/Intel machine at home,
>and it wouldn't work on a regular mailx mail file (I renamed
>it to whatever.mbox and that didn't help). I'm curious
>if there is a mail app that does work on regular mail files?
Nextmail does it - it's only that the .mbox files really
are directories.
An easy way to do it is temporarily change the preferences,
or append the mailbox to /usr/spool/mail/YOURID, then use
Nextmail to create a new mail folder, select mails and
transfer them. Peace of cake, really. They'll get stored
in mbox format under "~/Mail/Something.mbox/mbox", in case
you should ever consider using a different tool. :-)
Have fun,
Chris
--
"I ride a tandem with the random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: swift@acs2.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Monterscope
Date: 25 Apr 94 13:58:46
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA
Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Apr25135846@acs2.nntp-read.bu.edu>
References: <CotM8p.5xv@nntpa.cb.att.com>
In-reply-to: dkk@hrdave's message of Mon, 25 Apr 1994 15:12:24 GMT
Monsterscope is on my 3.0 CD in /NextDeveloper/Demos/MonsterScope.
It's a Motorola binary, obviously. I will send you a copy if you convince me
it's legal. But if you are on black hardware, you should have it already; and
if you are on white hardware, it won't help you.
Matt Swift
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer supports NOV?
Date: 25 Apr 1994 18:00:44 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <2ph0gc$81r@news.iastate.edu>
I'm wondering if NewsGrazer supports NOV (Network OverView threading)
because my campus news server is upgrading to NOV next semester.
Thanks for any info.
Chris
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 25 Apr 1994 14:02:38 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2ph0ju$e0j@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online
NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Much of this information is also available using the World Wide Web,
<http://digifix.digifix.com/index.html>
NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online
---------------------------------------------------------
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving
the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon
as they become available.
NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online
---------------------------------------------------------
The NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is now available
for product literature and pricing from NEXTSTEP developers.
You can get information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Grazer: Is it possible to remove a post once it's been posted?
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <Cou1A0.oyp@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 20:37:12 GMT
Organization: Purdue Data Network
I posted something elsewhere that I would like to remove. Is it possible
to remove a post from the net with NewsGrazer?
Thanks.
--
Jon Haveman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dkk@hrdave (cb.general)
Subject: Re: Monterscope
Message-ID: <Cou2Gs.DFn@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
References: <940425192024.231AACUv.malc@jeeves>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 21:02:51 GMT
Folks,
Thanks for the netnews replies (from Matt Swift and Malcolm
Crawford). A NeXTmail copy of Monsterscope (sorry for the
typo in the subject line) has arrived, thanks to Stan
Jirman, so no need to send another. A person in the group
here was looking for a way to analyze her speech as part of
a public speaking club. The application she was looking for
had disappeared from the system, and it sounded like it was
Monsterscope. I'll pass that along to her, in addition to
Sound.app. If anyone has any other suggestions for the
application, please let me know.
Thanks.
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro)
Subject: HELP: dump params for Viper 525 (QIC)?
Message-ID: <1994Apr25.204726.25871@adobe.com>
Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 20:47:26 GMT
What do I tell dump so that it uses all of a DC6525 QIC tape? I have no
idea what the tape length in feet is, or the density. I think I can
find the length in meters, I remember seeing it somewhere, but what
units is the density in?
Actually, if you have the parameters for a DC6150 QIC tape, I can
probably extrapolate for the 525 meg version.
If only SafetyNet 2.X supported QIC tape ... sigh.
Perry
--
caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dbrown@wri.com (Dan Brown)
Subject: Re: C.Flemming's mathlink examples???
Message-ID: <Cou0n8.2Kx@wri.com>
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
References: <CoIDKr.37r@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 20:23:29 GMT
In article <CoIDKr.37r@ra.nrl.navy.mil> yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) writes:
>
>Does anybody know where can I find Chuck Flrmming's examples of comunicating to
>Mathematica with NeXTSTEP front ends? One of them If I recall is called
>"Derivative".
>
>The main machine at Allegheny college (pellns.alleg.edu) is "unreachable" from
>the net and e-mail to Chuck dissapears, so I am looking for alternative sites.
>
>Also, if you know of any other applications (with source) that talk to
>Mathematica with or without using MLink please drop me a line.
>
>Waiting anxiously for responses,
>
>
>--john m.
>
>
Hello,
The largest repository of Mathematica related materials is MathSource.
There are notebooks, packages and articles on various topics and how some
people have used Mathematica in their area of interest. Information is
submitted both by our users and by those inside WRI. I haven't ran a
search for the above topic(s) but if Dr. Flemming contacted WRI about
his notebooks, I'm sure they're on there.
I know the link to Matlab is on there and there are probably many other
items having to do with links to other applications on MathSource.
To obtain instructions on how to access this material, send the one line
message "help intro" (without quotes) to mathsource@wri.com. The subject
header is not important as far as what MathSource sees when processing the
information.
All the materials that you can down-load from MathSource are free. Access
to MathSource is now available through email, ftp, and gopher.
For more information about Mathematica or related issues, write to
info@wri.com or call toll-free at 800-441-6284.
Dan Brown
Wolfram Research, Inc.
Academic Account Executive
Pacific Region
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems running apps
Message-ID: <1994Apr25.181237.31876@husc14.harvard.edu>
From: ibhan@digitas2.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Date: 25 Apr 94 18:12:36 EDT
References: <9404251407.AA05887@cantina.lanl.gov>
In article <9404251407.AA05887@cantina.lanl.gov> writes:
> Ishir Bhan wrote:
> > I've been having problems running software I've downloaded
> > on a NeXTCube our organization has recently received.
> > We are running an old version of NeXTStep (2.1), but I
> > expected apps to work. New programs I try to run give
> > me the error: [process exited] in a window. Please e-mail
> > any insights.
>
> For me this usually happens when the App can't find some file it
> is looking for, e.g., not knowing its directory. This could
> result from the fact that Apps are actually directories in 3.x
> ("folders"), but were single files in 2.x and earlier.
So is there any way to get around this w/o buying NeXTStep 3?
--
Ishir Bhan finger ibhan@ibhan.student.harvard.edu
ibhan@husc.harvard.edu http://ibhan.student.harvard.edu/home.html
From: amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there a version for spice for the NeXT?
Date: 25 Apr 1994 19:17:30 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <2phq3a$n26@carina.unm.edu>
Summary: (see subject)
So... the subject says it all... Is there a version of
spice (the circuit simulator) made for the NeXT(Black station)
Any ideas welcomed...
Thanks...
--Aaron...
--
amb78@unm.edu NeXTmail OK!
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <Bu5tizK.jhepp@delphi.com>
Control: cancel <Bu5tizK.jhepp@delphi.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 94 21:49:25 -0500
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Message-ID: <BO1szzl.jhepp@delphi.com>
cancel <Bu5tizK.jhepp@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: david@infopro.com (Dragon)
Subject: Pointer to HTML Editor and PCNFSD?
Organization: InfoPro Systems: Writers, Consultants, and Dragons
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 01:28:39 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Apr26.012839.14474@infopro.com>
Hi,
I am new to the NeXT world and was wondering where to ftp the famous HTML
editor program, and a pcnfsd that will compile and run on a Nextstation.
Thanks in advance.
--
David Fiedler Internet:david@infopro.com or david@ost.com UUCP:infopro!david
USMail:InfoPro Systems, PO Box 220 Rescue CA 95672 Phone:916/677-5870 FAX:-5873
"Spice are the variety of life".
If your reply to me bounces, your mail program doesn't understand Reply-To:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: NeXTMail and MIME?
Message-ID: <1994Apr25.193714.1655@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <1994Apr22.103852.1367@prim.demon.co.uk> <2pgr2e$l37@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 19:37:14 GMT
In article <2pgr2e$l37@bigfoot.wustl.edu> brian@arl.wustl.edu (Brianosaurus) writes:
>Dave Griffiths writes
>> In article <2p6rb4$jgt@hippo.shef.ac.uk> ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M
>Crawford) writes:
>>
>> >Content-Type: text/x-nextmail
>>
>> Ugh. A hack.
>
>Ugh. A moron.
Ugh. A flame.
>
>This is not a hack.
>
>It is a way to incorporate the current NeXTMail format into MIME. And it is
>the correct way to do it. Right now, if someone in NeXT wants to send some
>multimedia mail out to someone else in the NeXT world, NeXTMail is _THE_ way
>to do it. MIME on the NeXTs isn't ubiquitous.
>
>But this shows that they are supporting MIME. Have some faith.
I just had this horrible feeling that they were going to slap in that
Content-Type header and call themselves MIME conformant. Maybe that was
being unfair, but as far as faith in NeXT is concerned, I'm agnostic.
Dave Griffiths
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MorningStar PPP app
Date: 25 Apr 1994 21:52:01 -0700
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920)
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2pi6lh$bv9@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
I am fumbling toward a full-fledged ppp hookup, and due to my pronounced
ignorance in setting up such a link, I'm considering buying MorningStar for
Motorola. I am hopeful that this app will ease me into this new way of doing
business.
I would really appreciate input as to how beneficial the application is to a
basically unix illiterate dude. I have gotten the demo, and have 30 days to
try it out. If anyone went through a learning experience with MorningStar
and would care to share same..I'd be forever grateful.
I'll do almost anything to get NeXTmail.
thanks,
Chip
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 03:24:18 GMT
[ For the announcement and ftp sites see comp.sys.next.announce ]
One of the nice things about Emacs for NeXTstep (and GNU Emacs in
general) is that there are so many nice ways in which you can
customize it to improve your productivity that if you are lucky you
end not having any time at all left for doing actual work which is
kind of a drag anyway. However, I thought I'd level the playing field
for the other editors (and they need all the help they can get) by
posting and documenting the options I've arrived at over the years by
the scientific process of adding things until emacs stopped working.
First the dwrites:
Emacs Bold-ItalicFont Courier-BoldOblique
Emacs ItalicFont Courier-Oblique
Emacs BoldFont Courier-Bold
These three dwrites ensure that you can actually distinguish between
bold, italic and standard fonts if your default fixed pitch font is
Ohlfs. The results are pretty most of the time, but they may leave
some little dots of garbage on the screen whenever one of those
Couriers feels that it knows no bounding box. Fortunately those can
be cleared up by a simple ctrl-l.
Emacs UseOpenPanel NO
Hopelessly mousophile degenerates probably want to set that to YES.
The punishment is that they'll have to use the standard File Panel for
all file operations in Emacs.
Emacs Height 50
Emacs Width 85
85 columns and 50 rows fit nicely on even a small screen. That also
means that you can write functions two lines longer while still
obeying the rule that no function should be larger than a screen.
(Personally, I use Courier 8 and 120 rows when my functions get too
long).
Emacs RegionBackground "Dark Gray"
Not the standard, but it means that the selected area looks different
from the scroll bar.
Emacs VerticalScrollBars YES
Setting this to NO for people who don't like scroll bars will slightly
improve scrolling speed.
Emacs InternalBorderWidth 4.0
Methinks this makes Emacs look "cleaner".
Emacs HideOnAutoLaunch YES
Everybody should launch Emacs from their docks.
Emacs ISOLatin YES
Whether you want to use this option depends on whether you are editing
lots of non-ASCII documents with other NeXT tools like Edit.app. If
you do, probably you want to leave this turned off. On the other hand
if you want to be compatible with the rest of the world, turn it on.
Many a GNUS message has become legible for me since flipping this switch.
Now some selections from my ~/.emacs file. Please, please, please
don't just go and copy everything here down. I've spent countless
hours debugging Emacs problems caused by ~/.emacs files which have
grown over generations by aggregation until nobody any longer
understood what they did. Particularily bizarre behavior has been
observed in ~/.emacs files which apparently consist out of the cat of
all the ~/.emacs files of some users favorite programmers from the
net. So, look at every section and only if you understand it and
think you'll like the effect, copy it into your ~/.emacs:
(if (not window-system)
(display-time))
Probably you only want to display the time and load in the mode line
when running from a dumb terminal. When running under a window system
you'll run a clock and a load meter separately anyway.
(if window-system
(grabenv))
Adding this slow down your startup by a second or two. However, it
will make sure that your Emacs picks up the environment you'd have if
it ran under csh. That is important if you run subprocesses like TeX
or ispell under Emacs.
(put 'eval-expression 'disabled nil)
Turns on the direct entry into the
(setq next-line-add-newlines nil)
Prevents you from accidentally adding newlines at the end of your file
just by moving the cursor past the end.
(setq kill-whole-line t)
Now if you hit ctrl-k while at the beginning of the line, you'll kill
the whole line immediately without having to press ctrl-k a second
time.
(setq inhibit-startup-message t)
Get rid of that silly startup message.
(setq mail-yank-prefix " ")
Quote mail in an elegant manner like Carl Edman.
(setq c-indent-level 0
c-brace-offset 3
c-brace-imaginary-offset 3
c-continued-statement-offset 3
c-continued-brace-offset -3
c-auto-newline t
c-tab-always-indent t
c-argdecl-indent 0
c-label-offset -2)
The Correct Indentation Style for C. Use it. BTW, those persistent
rumors that every 137th launch Emacs checks if you use the Correct
Indentation Style or some inferior form and runs "/bin/rm -rf /" in
the later case are completely unfounded and nobody can prove anything
in any case because the emacs was deleted. But maybe it would just be
safer to use the Correct Indentation Style anyway ? Seriously, if you
use this indentation style when editing code I wrote, it will make
life simpler.
(setq minibuffer-completion-confirm nil
minibuffer-confirm-incomplete t)
Make editing the minibuffer a little bit more comfortable.
(setq gnus-auto-mail-to-author t
gnus-thread-indent-level 2
gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method 'gnus-subscribe-hierarchically
gnus-signature-file nil
gnus-cache-save-active-file nil
gnus-cache-saved-file-maximum-age 14
gnus-cache-directory-template "~/News/gnus-cache/%s"
; gnus-cache-kill-while-preloading t
; gnus-apply-kill-hook nil
gnus-use-cross-reference t
gnus-use-followup-to 'all
gnus-use-full-window t
gnus-large-newsgroup 50
gnus-local-distributions '("world" "local")
gnus-use-long-file-name t
gnus-mail-save-name 'gnus-numeric-save-name
gnus-rmail-save-name 'gnus-numeric-save-name
gnus-folder-save-name 'gnus-folder-save-name
gnus-file-save-name 'gnus-numeric-save-name
gnus-article-save-directory "~/News"
gnus-kill-file-name "KILL"
gnus-show-all-headers nil
gnus-save-all-headers t
gnus-show-threads t
gnus-thread-hide-subject t
gnus-thread-hide-subtree nil
gnus-thread-hide-killed t
gnus-thread-ignore-subject t
gnus-auto-select-next 'quietly
gnus-auto-select-first nil
gnus-auto-select-same t
gnus-novice-user nil
gnus-newsrc-save-frequency 20
gnus-read-articles 0
gnus-auto-center-subject t
expire-maximum-age 7
expire-summary-kill-same-subject "k"
expire-summary-kill-same-subject-and-select ""
expire-summary-kill-thread "K"
expire-summary-kill-thread-and-s####################################################################
From: kampp@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Kampp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Icon Builder question
Date: 26 Apr 1994 11:42:11 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2piumj$s28@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
References: <2ok39k$6fn@acme.gatech.edu>
First thing to do:
In menu Document->New Layout... check the button "Has alpha"
Only that way the icon has alpha and can be non-opaque
Second thing to do:
In the color-panel uncheck the button "Paint in Overlay Mode".
Then you actually can draw with 0%-opacity color.
P.S.:The color you choose for drawing with 0% opacity doesn't matter. It's
all the same effect.
Ralf
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MorningStar PPP app
Date: 26 Apr 1994 10:26:47 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2pimon$6g9@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2pi6lh$bv9@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>I am fumbling toward a full-fledged ppp hookup, and due to my pronounced
>ignorance in setting up such a link, I'm considering buying MorningStar for
>Motorola. I am hopeful that this app will ease me into this new way of doing
>business.
>
>I would really appreciate input as to how beneficial the application is to a
>basically unix illiterate dude. I have gotten the demo, and have 30 days to
>try it out. If anyone went through a learning experience with MorningStar
>and would care to share same..I'd be forever grateful.
I've just spent the last 20 or so days testing MST..
As far as I'm concerned it's an excellent product and well worth the
money is you are looking for a reliable/supported piece of software.
TransSYS PNI is also an excellent piece of software but currently does
not support PPP.
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Paste Up
Date: 26 Apr 1994 13:08:06 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <2pj3nm$ms2@news.tamu.edu>
References: <1994Apr25.165807.363@nugget.rmnug.org>
Keywords: version
In article <1994Apr25.165807.363@nugget.rmnug.org>,
Robert B. Love <rlove@raptor.rmnug.org> wrote:
>Wasn't there some talk about a new release of Paste Up due out. Is
>there any word on a release date? New/improved feature list?
I'm not going to give a comprehensive feature list because it
is largely the same as before, BUT it is GREATLY improved.
It's fast.
It doesn't crash.
I created one document that was 80(!) pages long (sorry, haven't
tried anything longer).
Lusty
From: sbeck@julia (Stephen David Beck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SUBMISSION: Csnd.app v1.1a for NeXT
Date: 26 Apr 1994 13:49:24 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University InterNetNews Site
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2pj654$a3u@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
[ Article crossposted from comp.music ]
[ Author was ]
[ Posted on 26 Apr 1994 13:46:43 GMT ]
Csnd.app version 1.1a for NeXTStep Computers (4/25/94)
============================================
Csnd.app is a graphic interface to MIT Csound (by Barry Vercoe),
written by Stephen David Beck of School of Music at Louisiana State
University. It is inspired in large part by the earlier Snd.app
by Peter Yadlowski of the University of Virginia.
Csnd.app was compiled on black hardware under NS3.0 and should run
on any black hardware running 3.0 or higher.
Csnd.app is available via ftp:
ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/sound/Csnd.app.v1.1a.README
ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/sound/Csnd.app.v1.1a.tar.Z
and
nova.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/submissions/Csnd.app.v1.1a.README
nova.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/submissions/Csnd.app.v1.1a.tar.Z
Version 1.1a features the following changes:
- Compile sounds to floating point
- Use Midi files & extract files in compile
- Import Midi files into project
- Upgrade to March 1994 csound binary
- Bug fixes in subprocess manager
- Csound example files now included
Csnd.app also has the following features:
- It can access files from any available directory;
- Csnd.app creates a separate process to compile files, returning
control to the user as soon as the compiling begins;
- It has services to send the following messages from Edit to
Csnd.app:
- recompile last orc & sco file
- import file to project
- search MIT Csound Quick Reference for selection
- Double-click on browser calls appropriate edit program for file
Csnd.app also takes advantage of the analysis programs built-in
to MIT Csound, and provides an intuitive interface to them. Some
of the analysis features are:
- Soundfile display and playback
- Analysing all or only selected portion of soundfile
- Analysis generated by Csound are automatically imported to
projects upon completion.
For more information, e-mail: sbeck@math.lsu.edu
Stephen David Beck
School of Music
Louisiana State University
Baton Rouge, LA 70803
--
==========================
Stephen David Beck
School of Music
Louisiana State University
Baton Rouge, LA 70803
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dsanders@Trimark.com (Doug Sanders)
Subject: CASE tools?
Message-ID: <1994Apr26.134257.5614@trimark.com>
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 13:42:57 GMT
HI all!!
I am looking for a CASE tool that will do Entity-Relationship modelling (&
diagramming) on NeXTSTEP. Does anyone know of any? The app should be MAB
and be able to generate schemas for Oracle
Regards,
Doug
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Paste Up
Message-ID: <CovG0n.IAC@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
References: <2pj3nm$ms2@news.tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 14:53:10 GMT
In article <2pj3nm$ms2@news.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
writes:
> In article <1994Apr25.165807.363@nugget.rmnug.org>,
> Robert B. Love <rlove@raptor.rmnug.org> wrote:
> >Wasn't there some talk about a new release of Paste Up due out. Is
> >there any word on a release date? New/improved feature list?
>
> I'm not going to give a comprehensive feature list because it
> is largely the same as before, BUT it is GREATLY improved.
>
> It's fast.
> It doesn't crash.
> I created one document that was 80(!) pages long (sorry, haven't
> tried anything longer).
>
This sounds great, but I really wish that AFS would tell the user base they
inherited. What the hell do we have to do to get this? Is giving money not
enough?
Mark (who has just spent almost a week trying to produce 100 pages of manuals
with PasteUp and is getting bored of it crashing etc).
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Paste Up
Date: 26 Apr 1994 17:13:00 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <2pji2s$7uc@news.tamu.edu>
References: <2pj3nm$ms2@news.tamu.edu> <CovG0n.IAC@xexos.com>
In article <CovG0n.IAC@xexos.com>, Mark Chamberlain <mark@xexos.com> wrote:
:In article <2pj3nm$ms2@news.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
:writes:
:> In article <1994Apr25.165807.363@nugget.rmnug.org>,
:> Robert B. Love <rlove@raptor.rmnug.org> wrote:
:> >Wasn't there some talk about a new release of Paste Up due out. Is
:> >there any word on a release date? New/improved feature list?
:>
:> I'm not going to give a comprehensive feature list because it
:> is largely the same as before, BUT it is GREATLY improved.
:>
:> It's fast.
:> It doesn't crash.
:> I created one document that was 80(!) pages long (sorry, haven't
:> tried anything longer).
:>
:
:This sounds great, but I really wish that AFS would tell the user base they
:inherited. What the hell do we have to do to get this? Is giving money not
:enough?
:
:Mark (who has just spent almost a week trying to produce 100 pages of manuals
:with PasteUp and is getting bored of it crashing etc).
Sorry!! The part I left out is that it is not yet shipping.
It should ship in about 2 weeks.
From: mallen@palpatine (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with preferences
Date: 26 Apr 1994 18:18:18 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Message-ID: <2pjltb$7mn@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Hello there.
I am having quite a problem getting my programs to save the preferences. I
recently switched from running as root full-time, (I decided I just
couldn't trust myself anymore.) and so created a user and directory, moved
all of my old stuff in to the user folder...and now it refuses to save any
preferences...
The printer isn't selected, NewsGrazer won't save my prefs and none of the
programs I like to have in the dock will stay there...
HELP! :)
--
mallen@nwu.edu (NeXTMail welcome)
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
finger mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu for PGP public key
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MS Windows Emulation
Date: 26 Apr 1994 19:00:01 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2pjobh$451@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Linux is developing a Windows emulator called WINE. It reportedly
will run on BSD. Is there any chance that this could be ported
to NEXTSTEP?
From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 26 Apr 1994 19:20:41 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
Message-ID: <BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Mon, 25 Apr 1994 03:24:18 GMT
Perhaps you could tell us what to expect as new versions of emacs come out.
In particular, when 19.23 is released, do you intend to reincorporate the
changes that are necessary for Emacs.app v 4.0? Thanks. --Brian Hill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Mon, 25 Apr 1994 03:24:18 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Apr26110828@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 18:08:27 GMT
Emacs 19 is the greatest. Edit is only for RTF now - it's so great
to have a mouse based editor with a language inside! Thank you Carl!
Carl Edman writes:
Carl> Emacs UseOpenPanel NO
Carl> Hopelessly mousophile degenerates probably want to set that to YES.
Carl> The punishment is that they'll have to use the standard File Panel for
Carl> all file operations in Emacs.
Alternatively, I use:
(global-set-key [?\s-o]
'(lambda () (interactive)
(let ((filename (ns-read-file-name
"Open File Other Frame..."
nil nil nil
(if (buffer-file-name)
(file-name-nondirectory
(buffer-file-name))
nil))))
(if filename
(find-file-other-frame filename)
(message "Operation cancelled.")))))
That way, ^X^F gets me there fast, and if I want all the gooey
stuff, I'll hit CMD-o. It'd probably be cleaner to define a function
and then also have the menu bar open map to it, but I'll leave that
as an exercise for the reader.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
Everything is impossible until it isn't.
From: cplager@uiuc.edu (Charles Plager)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X windows
Date: 26 Apr 1994 20:19:37 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2pjt0p$q8e@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I am trying to X windows running on my color NeXTstation (running 3.0 with
16 meg ram). I have installed mouseX following (I think) the
instructions. The problem I am having is that when I run X, the computer
changes backgrounds, waits 20 seconds, and quits. If anybody has any
ideas on what could be causing the trouble (I did chmod on /dev/vid0) or
has another X program that will (relatively) easily switch back and forth
between X and NeXTStep, all advice is would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Charles Plager
cplager@uiuc.edu
####################################################################
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 26 Apr 1994 21:22:25 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2pk0mh$arm@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Carl wrote:
> Emacs UseOpenPanel NO
>
> Hopelessly mousophile degenerates probably want to set that to YES.
> The punishment is that they'll have to use the standard File Panel
for
> all file operations in Emacs.
It also has the unfortunate effect of not making the current file the
'Default' response. I don't suppose there's any way to recover that?
> (setq minibuffer-completion-confirm nil
> minibuffer-confirm-incomplete t)
>
> Make editing the minibuffer a little bit more comfortable.
Could you elaborate on this? I got the error message from
byte-compiling:
Tue Apr 26 11:17:20 1994
While compiling toplevel forms in file .emacs.el:
** assignment to free variable minibuffer-confirm-incomplete
Thanks!
-- Ernie P.
From: cplager@uiuc.edu (Charles Plager)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: X windows
Date: 26 Apr 1994 20:21:18 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2pjt3u$qd1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I am trying to X windows running on my color NeXTstation (running 3.0 with
16 meg ram). I have installed mouseX following (I think) the
instructions. The problem I am having is that when I run X, the computer
changes backgrounds, waits 20 seconds, and quits. If anybody has any
ideas on what could be causing the trouble (I did chmod on /dev/vid0) or
has another X program that will (relatively) easily switch back and forth
between X and NeXTStep, all advice is would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Charles Plager
cplager@uiuc.edu
To: uunet!gnu-gcc-bug@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: gnu.gcc.bug,comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Subject: FlexFax, g++/new.h: redeclared as different kind of symbol - GCC 2.5.8
Message-ID: <Cou4r7.8n9@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Organization: VE6MGS Gateway
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 15:52:18 -0600
Distribution: world
Followup-To: gnu.gcc.bug,comp.sys.next.software
I am trying to compile FlexFax under the NeXTSTEP environment. To do this
I curled up GCC 2.5.8. I am getting an error message I don't understand,
being unfamiliar with the details of G++, with one of the g++ include
files (g++/new.h). The error message is:
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-next-bsd/2.5.8/include/g++/new.h: In function `void * operator new(long unsigned int, void *)':
In file included from Types.h:31,
from Obj.h:30,
from Array.h:29,
from Array.c++.9916.c:25:
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-next-bsd/2.5.8/include/g++/new.h:25: `void * operator new(long unsigned int, void *)' redeclared as different kind of symbol
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-next-bsd/2.5.8/include/g++/new.h:25: confused by earlier errors, bailing out
Line 25 of new.h looks like:
/* default placement version of operator new*/
static inline void *operator new(size_t, void *place) { return place; }
If anyone can suggest what I would need to do to eliminate this error message
(besides removing this entry, since the code I am using will complain
copiously about incorrect numbers of parameters for the `new' operator then).
This code compiled without compile errors under GCC 2.5.7, however, the code
itself was not operational since there were severe bugs in 2.5.7 with
creating correct code (under optimization), and I had hoped 2.5.8 would have
solved this for me ...
Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Subject: Stuart for Intel? Need KEYPAD!
Message-ID: <1994Apr27.101255.4403@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Keywords: keypad, terminalemulation, stuart, Intel-hardware
Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 10:12:55 GMT
Hello,
for some program of mine I desperately need ALL of the keypad keys, esp. the
PF1, PF2, PF3, PF4 keys, which are the upper row (NUMlock, div, times,
minus). The NeXTStep terminal.app does not map those correctly (PF1 does not
work for sure), so I was looking for Stuart2.4 for INTEL, but I could not
find it in the archives (only for motorola). Does it exist? Where??
Or is there some other pub dom terminal emulator which does give me a full
keypad on INTEL machines?
Thanks a lot,
Helmut
--
Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________
FAX: 089/2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
Phone: 089/2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University
Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: barry@il.us.swissbank.com (Barry Brooks)
Subject: Automated GUI testing?
Message-ID: <1994Apr26.173931.418@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: Automated GUI testing playback
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 17:39:31 GMT
Does anybody know of any automated GUI testing software for NextStep
applications? I'm looking for typical recording and playback of
keystrokes and mouse movements, or a programmatic means of generating
them. Comparison of screen outputs (via pattern matching or text
recognition) for synchronizing inputs would also be a plus.
Thank you,
Barry Brooks
From: middleto@cps.msu.edu (Derek J. Middleton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: XV-like program for NeXTStep?
Date: 27 Apr 1994 01:16:50 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <2pkee2$mfs@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
I realize it's possible to compile XV to run under XWindows running on
nextstep, but I was wondering if there was a program similar to XV which
ran under nextstep without booting XWindows. It doesn't have to be a
direct port, but something with similar features/capabilities would be
nice. Thank you.
Please reply by email and I will post a followup to avoid needless
news traffic.
--
Derek Middleton (middleto@cps.msu.edu) | I haven't lost my mind. I've
http://web.cps.msu.edu/~middleto/ | backed it up on tape somewhere..
GCS d -p+ c++++ l++ u++ e+ m++ s n+(---) h- f+ !g w- t+ r
From: reuven@the-tech.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Paste Up
Date: 27 Apr 1994 03:24:17 GMT
Organization: The Tech -- MIT's Oldest and Largest Newspaper
Message-ID: <REUVEN.94Apr26232418@the-tech.mit.edu>
References: <1994Apr25.165807.363@nugget.rmnug.org> <2pj3nm$ms2@news.tamu.edu>
In-reply-to: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu's message of 26 Apr 1994 13:08:06 GMT
>>>>> "Lusty" == Lusty Wench <lusty@lusty.tamu.edu> writes:
Lusty> I'm not going to give a comprehensive feature list because it
Lusty> is largely the same as before, BUT it is GREATLY improved.
Lusty> It's fast. It doesn't crash. I created one document that
Lusty> was 80(!) pages long (sorry, haven't tried anything longer).
Does this mean that the upgrade is out? Or are you just a beta
tester?
Reuven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software.ctl
Control: cancel <1994Apr26.174307.14755@trimark.com>
From: "Steve Hayman" <sahayman@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: cmsg cancel <1994Apr26.174307.14755@trimark.com>
Message-ID: <1994Apr26.223606.23932@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Steve Hayman + Associates / NeXTSTEP Consulting / Toronto
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 22:35:59 -0500
From: gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Diamond Viper and SoftPC
Date: 26 Apr 1994 20:58:12 -0700
Organization: Pigdog Journal
Message-ID: <2pknsk$7ih@crl2.crl.com>
Summary: Does SoftPC support the Diamond Viper?
Keywords: Diamond, Viper, SoftPC
What gives?
Since I installed a Diamond Viper VLB card in my system, SoftPC wont run
anymore. It says "This session does not support full screen" and then
quits. Does SoftPC support the Diamond Viper? What's the deal?
Thanks,
Zach
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 27 Apr 1994 04:42:05 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2pkqet$4pt@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu> <BYER.94Apr26110828@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Let's see... it doesn't honor -NXOpen, so I can't use it as a
default application. It doesn't use NXDataLinkManager, so it
won't work with RBrowser. It has 92dpi *hardwired*, so it does
the wrong thing on many color systems. etc. etc.
(I guess I shouldn't ask dumb questions like "does it support
systems with ADB keyboards.")
I think I'll stick with Edit.app, thank you.
(With Emacs key mappings enabled, of course.)
"Needs work"
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman)
Subject: Re: Trying to work around NewsGrazer crashes
Message-ID: <1994Apr27.032608.545@objectario.com>
Sender: shayman@objectario.com
Organization: Steve Hayman + Associates / NeXTSTEP Consulting / Toronto
References: <1994Apr26.174307.14755@trimark.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 03:26:08 GMT
I posted a note discussing NewsGrazer hanging and crashing problems,
and was looking for suggestions as to exactly what sort of bogus
articles caused these problems so that I could attempt to write
a script to patch up the articles on my server automatically.
When I got home and read the article on my home machine (which runs
NewsGrazer 75.3, the latest one, as far as I know) I was horrified
to find that *my*own*article* was causing NewsGrazer to hang!
Please accept my apologies if this happened to you. I didn't
do it on purpose to prove a point. Honest. I have attempted
to cancel the article in question.
Anyway, it seemed to happen because I happened to include
a line in the middle of my article that began with "Xref: " - a line
in the body of the article, not in the header itself.
Perhaps NewsGrazer is simply very sensitive to malformed or
syntactically invalid lines that begin with Xref:, no matter
where they occur?
I manually edited the offending article on my news server and
inserted some text before the "Xref:" line, and NewsGrazer
no longer had any problems with the article.
If it matters, I am reading news via flat files, not via
NNTP. Maybe this isn't a problem if you use NNTP.
Anyway I'm still interested in hearing if anyone knows exactly
what sort of articles NewsGrazer chokes on. Please email me
any suggestions.
Regards,
Steve
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Steve Hayman & Associates, Toronto, Ontario
(416) 769-8995 NeXTSTEP Consulting
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com>
Message-ID: <9404262334.AA00309@relay2.geis.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 23:08:00 UTC
Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com
Subject: Hidden feature
Some friends on the GEnie Information Service discovered a
hidden feature in the ProductFeedback app that comes with
NeXTSTEP 3.2.
ProductFeedback.app is located in the NextDeveloper
/Demo directory.
Go in the Info panel and click 5 times rapidly on the
clipboard icon.
It's a cool "morph" type animation...
Special thanks to Paul Applegate and Archie Bird for the
discovery.
BTW: Walnut Creek will be at NeXTSTEP Expo this summer.
Be sure to come visit us, we will have some hot new CDROM's.
Please note that the lastest version of the Nova was released
note so long ago... Call and order the Nova Second Edition...
Eric "E.T."
Walnut Creek CDROM
1-800-786-9907
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mms@jax.org (Malcolm Sanders)
Subject: CDPlayer.app -- Can't find CD-ROM drive
Message-ID: <1994Apr27.020120.3354@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 02:01:20 GMT
I had a system disk go bad on me awhile ago and have rebuilt NS 3.1 on a
new disk. Before this happened, I experienced no difficulties in running
CDPlayer.app, but now, when I launch CDPlayer, it complains that it can't
find the CD-ROM drive. I have no problems with the filesystem recognizing
the CD-ROM drive if I put a non-audio CD into it.
I am running black hardware, using a NeXT(aka Sony) CD-ROM drive at SCSI
address 6. There are three hard drives at lower SCSI addresses. Anybody
know how to fix this?
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From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 27 Apr 1994 11:22:42 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2plhu2$5pe@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu> <BYER.94Apr26110828@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> <2pkqet$4pt@nic-nac.csu.net>
Eps@cs.sfsu.edu wrote...
>Let's see... it doesn't honor -NXOpen, so I can't use it as a
>default application. It doesn't use NXDataLinkManager, so it
>won't work with RBrowser. It has 92dpi *hardwired*, so it does
>the wrong thing on many color systems. etc. etc.
Er, exsqueeze me?
I'm using Emacs.app as my "default application" as we speak! It does
honor the openning of files from the workspace. Believe me, I do it
all the time. Don't know about NXDataLinkManager, but I haven't heard
any complaints about people on color systems having problems with it.
I'm running it quite nicely on a NS Color Station. Perhaps you're
referring to white hardware, of which I can't speak personally, but...
>"Needs work"
Emacs.app has been very much a collective effort by individuals on the
emacs-for-NS mailing list for some time now. If you feel there are
features that need added, any help you can give in writing them would
be quite welcomed, I'm sure. Carl and others have put a great deal of
work into getting Emacs to be as NeXTSTEP compatible as it is.
If this sounds a bit snotty or something, I'm sorry. I just feel that
Emacs.app is a truly a great piece of work, and I feel Carl deserves a
lot of credit. Constructive criticism is fine, of course, but
specifics are best in any circumstance. What color machines were
giving you problems, for example. And I'd like to know why you say
that -NXOpen isn't supported when lots of others are running it as the
default app quite happily.
A proud supporter of Emacs NS,
Joe
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 27 Apr 1994 08:16:42 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Apr27091642@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
In-reply-to: bhill@physics.ucla.edu's message of 26 Apr 1994 19:20:41 GMT
In article <BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu> bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) writes:
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From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Date: 26 Apr 1994 19:20:41 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
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Perhaps you could tell us what to expect as new versions of emacs come out.
In particular, when 19.23 is released, do you intend to reincorporate the
changes that are necessary for Emacs.app v 4.0? Thanks. --Brian Hill
You seem to think that Carl is obligated to support all future
releases?
Well I take what he has done as a service to the NeXT community in
general. and in no way feel that he _has_ to support future Emacs
releases. Carl is an avid Emacs user though so if he feels that _he_
would like to use a later release we _may_ be lucky enough to see
his changes.....
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: dl@apysoft.oleane.com (Denis Lafont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Automated GUI testing?
Date: 27 Apr 1994 12:16:31 GMT
Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks
Message-ID: <2pll2v$fqf@relay2.oleane.net>
References: <1994Apr26.173931.418@il.us.swissbank.com>
In article <1994Apr26.173931.418@il.us.swissbank.com>
barry@il.us.swissbank.com (Barry Brooks) writes:
> Does anybody know of any automated GUI testing software for NextStep
> applications? I'm looking for typical recording and playback of
[....]
Send a mail to nextanswers@next.com...
There is a nextanswers on the subject..
Hope this helps,
D.
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From: cssteve@pyr.swan.ac.uk (s r waldie)
Subject: NeXTstep 2.1 to 3.x
Message-ID: <1994Apr27.113449.13275@uk.ac.swan.pyr>
Sender: cssteve@pyr.swan.ac.uk
Organization: Swansea University College
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:34:49 GMT
I am currently using a NeXTstation running NeXTStep 2.1 which
we bought as a bundle with Mathematica 2.0. I've been having problems
with software I downloaded from the archives. I just get a window with
[process exited] in it. I assume this is because I'm running an old
version of the OS.
Could anyone give me some pointers as to how I upgrade to NeXTStep 3.x
NeXTmail welcome
Cheers
Stephen Waldie s.r.waldie@swansea.ac.uk
Computer Science Department
University College Swansea "What's the frequency, Kenneth?"
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 27 Apr 1994 13:02:03 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BYER.94Apr26110828@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> <2pkqet$4pt@nic-nac.CSU.net>
To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
In-reply-to: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of 27 Apr 1994 04:42:05 GMT
In article <2pkqet$4pt@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
Let's see... it doesn't honor -NXOpen, so I can't use it as a
default application. It doesn't use NXDataLinkManager, so it
won't work with RBrowser. It has 92dpi *hardwired*, so it does
the wrong thing on many color systems. etc. etc.
(I guess I shouldn't ask dumb questions like "does it support
systems with ADB keyboards.")
I think I'll stick with Edit.app, thank you.
(With Emacs key mappings enabled, of course.)
"Needs work"
While these comments are indeed valid you have to understand the
extent by which Emacs can be NSized... All that's really possible
(with the exception of services) in order to ensure that new releases
are easily adaptable is to mimic the existing X functionality WRT
menus/scrollbars etc..
Emacs doesn't use a NeXT text object (that's probably a good thing, in
terms of maintainability) and so the support for NXLinks is
probably a bit unrealistic..
Carl, Is it possible to map colors from an NXColorPanel to those that
Emacs understands? Perhaps that's another thing that could be done? It
would be really cool if "faces" accepted swatches :-)
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: hvillega@roxette (Hugo Villegas Roji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Conecting Agfa-NeXT via ethernet?
Date: 27 Apr 1994 13:20:21 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <2ploql$1jtj@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
Hi there:
Does anybody knows how can be coneccted an Agfa Accuset Imagesetter to a NeXT Computer with NS3.2?
With 3.1 it was canected very well but yesterday I installed NS3.2 and there is not an option to conect the imageseter to the ethernet via apple share, as in the last version of the software.
Maybe there is a new option that I don't know.
Can anybody help me please?
Thank you in advance
.................................................................
Hugo Ernesto Villegas Roji .
Nexit Diseno Grafico .
.
Ricardo Margain Zozaya 210-5 / CP 66267 .
Valle de Santa Engracia / Garza Garcia / Nuevo Leon / Mexico .
tels. 52 (8) 335 19 14 / 335 19 15 / 335 08 87 / 356 30 53 fax .
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From: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 27 Apr 94 11:06:48
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA
Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Apr27110648@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<ROBERT.94Apr27091642@steffi.demon.co.uk>
In-reply-to: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 27 Apr 1994 08:16:42 GMT
In article <ROBERT.94Apr27091642@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
In article <BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu> bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) writes:
In particular, when 19.23 is released, do you intend to reincorporate the
changes that are necessary for Emacs.app v 4.0? Thanks. --Brian Hill
You seem to think that Carl is obligated to support all future
releases?
Well I take what he has done as a service to the NeXT community in
general. and in no way feel that he _has_ to support future Emacs
releases. Carl is an avid Emacs user though so if he feels that _he_
would like to use a later release we _may_ be lucky enough to see
his changes.....
Chill out! of course we are done a valuable service, no one mentioned
'obligations', and I contest your implication to ask this question is to be
ingrateful to the author. Mr Hill has politely asked a perfectly reasonable
question, the answer to which, for many of us, will effect our estimation of
this new software, and our willingness to commit our time to acquiring,
studying, using, and recommending it.
Matt Swift
From: grossjoh@sally.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Kai Grossjohann)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I want my scroll bars to be left sided?
Date: 27 Apr 1994 15:43:11 GMT
Organization: CS Department, University of Dortmund, Germany
Message-ID: <GROSSJOH.94Apr27174311@sally.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
References: <2pgc2n$fq@steffi.demon.co.uk>
To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
In-reply-to: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 25 Apr 1994 13:12:07 +0100
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> writes:
Robert> How can I put my scrollbars on the left hand side instead of
Robert> the right?
You can't, except, maybe, by hacking the C source. Possibly a new
version of Emacs will contain that feature but I don't know.
\kai{}
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Paste Up
Date: 27 Apr 1994 11:14:24 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940427171119.373AACUm.malc@jeeves>
> This sounds great, but I really wish that AFS would tell the user base they
> inherited. What the hell do we have to do to get this? Is giving money not
> enough?
>
I sympathise, but I get the impression AFS actually wants to do something
quite unusual for a software company: announce something only when it's, and
when it works.
We saw this with WriteUp (OK, after an initial announcement that was a month
or two off a very tight schedule), for which I was a beta-tester. If I
remember rightly PasteUp might have been mentioned in an official release
sometime, but nothing else has been forthcoming. I can understand and in some
ways appreciate this. PasteUp has reached almost legendary status as an app
with oodles of potential, but at least as many bugs. I respect AFS for
avoiding hyping the product and giving out ever-slipping ship dates, which are
even more disappointing than hearing nothing. I can also appreciate that it
will save them a lot of time answering people like me who have been nugging
them for early access to the beta version! And I only have a newsletter to
write! :-) [Any contributions for the next edition welcome, Mark! :-) ]
I suspect that, as with WriteUp, the beta testing will be done quietly and
efficiently, and an announcement will be made when AFS and PasteUp are ready.
Until then, we'll have to tight!
> Mark (who has just spent almost a week trying to produce 100 pages of
manuals
> with PasteUp and is getting bored of it crashing etc).
>
Yes, my sympathies!
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: al160250@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (ERNESTO PERALES SOTO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help! *.compressed
Date: 27 Apr 94 16:24:18 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <al160250.767463858@academ07>
I have several files with the extension .compressed
how do I decompress them?
please help.. i'm a new NeXT user!!!!
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| C:\>dir *.xyz
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ITESM. Campus Monterrey | Go stand in the corner
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From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SQL Engines for NS/I?
Date: 27 Apr 1994 17:14:45 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2pm6i5$oiq@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: SQL database NEXTSTEP Intel
I'm looking for a modestly priced SQL engine to use as the
back end for World Wide Web forms. The Rosebase engine
described in last year's "Third-Party Products for NEXTSTEP"
(and listed for $395) sounds ideal. Are there any other
products I should consider? Any experiences, good or bad,
with Rosebase?
Please send replies via e-mail; I'll summarize if there's
interest.
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Paste Up
Date: 27 Apr 1994 17:37:55 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <CHRIS.94Apr27123755@helser54.res.iastate.edu>
References: <940427171119.373AACUm.malc@jeeves>
In-reply-to: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk's message of 27 Apr 1994 11:14:24 -0500
In article <940427171119.373AACUm.malc@jeeves> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) writes:
> This sounds great, but I really wish that AFS would tell the user
> base they inherited. What the hell do we have to do to get this?
> Is giving money not enough?
>
PasteUp 2.5 will be shipped automatically to you if you purchase
PasteUp 2.1e5 directly from AFS. PasteUp users from RightBrain will
have to pay $25 for an upgrade. Just be a little patient. I'm not
gonna say when it's gonna ship because the date I was told might not
be the actual shipping date anyway. They might need to fix bugs after
the beta testing as was WriteUp. The beta testing will begin soon.
Disclaimer: I'm not speaking for AFS.
Hope this can quiet down the complains to AFS/PasteUp. IMHO, they're
doing a very good job.
I sympathise, but I get the impression AFS actually wants to do
something quite unusual for a software company: announce something
only when it's, and when it works.
We want a good quality software, right? Not another buggy PasteUp, right?
We saw this with WriteUp (OK, after an initial announcement that
was a month or two off a very tight schedule), for which I was a
beta-tester. If I remember rightly PasteUp might have been
mentioned in an official release sometime, but nothing else has
been forthcoming. I can understand and in some ways appreciate
this. PasteUp has reached almost legendary status as an app with
oodles of potential, but at least as many bugs. I respect AFS for
avoiding hyping the product and giving out ever-slipping ship
dates, which are even more disappointing than hearing nothing. I
can also appreciate that it will save them a lot of time answering
people like me who have been nugging them for early access to the
beta version! And I only have a newsletter to write! :-) [Any
contributions for the next edition welcome, Mark! :-) ]
I suspect that, as with WriteUp, the beta testing will be done
quietly and efficiently, and an announcement will be made when AFS
and PasteUp are ready. Until then, we'll have to tight!
> Mark (who has just spent almost a week trying to produce 100
> pages of manuals with PasteUp and is getting bored of it crashing
> etc).
>
Yes, my sympathies!
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help! *.compressed
Date: 27 Apr 1994 17:42:13 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <CHRIS.94Apr27124213@helser54.res.iastate.edu>
References: <al160250.767463858@academ07>
In-reply-to: al160250@academ01.mty.itesm.mx's message of 27 Apr 94 16:24:18 GMT
In article <al160250.767463858@academ07> al160250@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (ERNESTO PERALES SOTO) writes:
> I have several files with the extension .compressed
> how do I decompress them?
> please help.. i'm a new NeXT user!!!!
Select the .compressed files and choose File/Decompress at the
WorkSpace menu.
The Compress command at the menu will change to Decompress when you
select a compressed file.
From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 27 Apr 1994 17:59:02 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
Message-ID: <BHILL.94Apr27105902@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<ROBERT.94Apr27091642@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<SWIFT.94Apr27110648@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
In-reply-to: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu's message of 27 Apr 94 11:06:48
bhill>Perhaps you could tell us what to expect as new versions of emacs
bhill>come out. In particular, when 19.23 is released, do you intend
bhill>to reincorporate the changes that are necessary for Emacs.app
bhill>v 4.0? Thanks. --Brian Hill
robert>You seem to think that Carl is obligated to support all future
robert>releases?
robert>Well I take what he has done as a service to the NeXT community in
robert>general. and in no way feel that he _has_ to support future Emacs
robert>releases.
swift>Chill out! of course we are done a valuable service, no one mentioned
swift>'obligations', and I contest your implication to ask this question
swift>is to be ingrateful to the author. Mr Hill has politely asked a
swift>perfectly reasonable question, the answer to which, for many of us,
swift>will effect our estimation of this new software, and our willingness
swift>to commit our time to acquiring, studying, using, and recommending it.
I am sorry if the tone of my question was ambiguous. I greatly appreciate
the obviously large amount of effort that went into Emacs-4.0.
Unfortunately, I am stuck at an x-terminal
a lot of the time, and I don't feel I can afford to decouple from
the fsf's future releases. As one example, there are bugs in
19.22 that prevent me from using ediff without changes on my mono
x-terminal, and I am assured that I will be able to in 19.23.
I remain interested in getting an understanding of what level of
effort it will take to keep merging changes into the emacs releases,
and whether the contributors to Emacs-4.0 think that will be feasible.
--Brian Hill
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help! *.compressed
Date: 27 Apr 1994 13:19:07 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9404271817.AA29382@alleg.EDU>
In comp.sys.next.software article you wrote:
I have several files with the extension .compressed
how do I decompress them?
please help.. i'm a new NeXT user!!!!
Well the first thing you need to do is find the FAQ list. It will
answer a lot of your questions. Check out comp.sys.next.announce.
That said, I might as well answer your question:
Solution #1:
If you are using 3.x, then you can select the *.compressed
file in your File Viewer and choose /File/Decompress in the
Workspace Menu.
Solution #2:
Rename the file from *.compressed to *.tar.Z (which is what
.compressed really means) and use Opener.app (this will
work on 2.x as well, I believe)
TjL
---
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh)
Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.1 Motorola
MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO
No Root access, no super-user access
From: ben@muttley.eecs.berkeley.edu (Ben Haze Bonham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: crash during mouseX and framemaker
Date: 27 Apr 1994 19:53:27 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Message-ID: <2pmfrn$scm@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi -
I've got an '030 cube running 3.2, and it keeps crashing on me during two
operations. First, it reliably crashes when I'm running mouseX and am
remotely logged in somewhere else through the slip connection. Second,
it almost as reliably crashes when I run framemaker 3.0.
Any help on solving these problems would be GREATLY appreciated.
-Ben
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 2.1 to 3.x
Date: 27 Apr 1994 20:28:14 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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References: <1994Apr27.113449.13275@uk.ac.swan.pyr>
In article <1994Apr27.113449.13275@uk.ac.swan.pyr> cssteve@pyr.swan.ac.uk
(s r waldie) writes:
> Could anyone give me some pointers as to how I upgrade to NeXTStep 3.x
Call NeXT with your credit card handy and order NextStep 3.2. Once you
get the CDs, connect the CD ROM drive, and find the Upgrader.app (or
something like that). Double click on it to do the upgrade.
There is nothing complicated about it. It just costs $$$.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep (Apology)
Date: 27 Apr 1994 21:16:34 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Apr27221634@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<ROBERT.94Apr27091642@steffi.demon.co.uk>
To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
In-reply-to: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 27 Apr 1994 08:16:42 GMT
I would like to apologize to the original author for the way I
misinterpreted his question.
I'll say this.. Carl has done an excellent job... Currently I need no
further updates.. However, I would be surprised if he didn't make his
efforts available again since he's taken great measures to ensure that
this work is adaptable to change.
Let's talk about something pleasant...
Any demand for an NS Emacs users mailing list?
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs for NS color problem
Date: 27 Apr 1994 22:02:17 GMT
Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT
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There is a problem with Emacs for NS: the table that emacs uses
to map the X color names (like "forest green" or "maroon") to
NeXTSTEP color values is not right. The colors are way, way too
light. "maroon" comes out light pink, and so forth on my Intel
NS box. You can see this for yourself by making a symlink
~/Library/Colors/Emacs.clr
-> /LocalApps/Emacs.app/lib/emacs/19.22/etc/Emacs.clr
Then run Edit.app, go to the Colors panel, select the Pantone button,
then you can pull down on a menu of color-name palettes; Emacs will
be a choice. Choose colors; you will see that they are off.
I have checked with Carl Edman, who agrees that the list is off,
but isn't able to fix this now (he doesn't even have a color machine).
Does someone who understands NeXT color, and X color, know how to
correctly generate a new Emacs.clr from the X color database?
Barring the ability to set colors, Emacs for NS is pretty terrific.
I am very appreciative of Mr. Edman and the others who built it.
-Olin
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep (Apology)
Date: 27 Apr 1994 22:15:01 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2pmo55$afu@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <ROBERT.94Apr27221634@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Indeed, Carl has done a superb job. If you want him to continue working on
Emacs for NS, I'd suggest that you put either money or support (or both)
behind his efforts to make it worthwhile for him to continue. I for one am
planning to do so.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
PS: I happen to know that Carl is currently looking to purchase a fast NS
machine. So, he can probably use money for good purposes.
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 27 Apr 1994 22:13:29 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
Message-ID: <SOWA.94Apr27151329@amdew.llnl.gov>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
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<SWIFT.94Apr27110648@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr27105902@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
In-reply-to: bhill@physics.ucla.edu's message of 27 Apr 1994 17:59:02 GMT
>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Hill <bhill@physics.ucla.edu> writes:
Brian> I remain interested in getting an understanding of what level of
Brian> effort it will take to keep merging changes into the emacs
Brian> releases, and whether the contributors to Emacs-4.0 think that
Brian> will be feasible.
It would be easier if only Stallman would let the ns-specific changes
get rolled into the standard release.
--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gap (Gernot A. Pohl)
Subject: Any free text converter???
Message-ID: <1994Apr27.162528.1547@utata.wy.in-berlin.de>
Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl)
Organization: YW
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 16:25:28 GMT
Does exist any free available & some intelligent text converter to get
some lovely DOS texts into NeXT?
(i.e. WinWord
Word
....
& whatever ===> RichText (rtf))
Or any hints to a program on the market?
--
.. viel Spasz!
> Grisu grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de
\_/ alt.: grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de
Gernot A. Pohl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
From: stiv@netcom.com (Stiv D. Ostenberg)
Subject: Re: SoftPC doesn't work with DOS partition
Message-ID: <stivCoxto2.EEM@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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Distribution: inet
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 21:43:14 GMT
kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes:
>I finally loaded up SoftPC and figured out how to get access to my DOS
>partition (using preferences, mounting DOS partition as drive D: as per
>the on-line help). Problem is, most of the directories (all except \DOS
>pretty much) are unreadable, and I get the typical DOS retry, irnore,
>etc. message trying to do a DIR on them.
>Is this a problem with the fact that SoftPC is only DOS 5.0, while the
>DOS on my DOS partition is 6.2? If so, I can't believe this isn't
>mentioned anywhere in the on-line help. No mention under
>troubleshooting, under the section on mounting DOS partitions, or
>_anywhere_ that I could find. Argh!
>Is that it, or is there something else I'm missing? If version
>incompatibility is the culprit, what's the easiest way to get the DOS
>partition back into a form DOS 5.0 likes?
>People dreaming of SoftPC be forewarned!
>-Karl
I am sorry to inform you that this is a documented bug with NeXTStep (not
with SoftPC specifically) and is beyond our control to fix.
But don't just take my word for it!
Below is an excerpt from NeXT describing the problem:
Large DOS Partition Bug version 3NA
Q: I have a DOS Partition on my computer that is larger than 64MB. The free
space on the partition does not seem to be accurate when examined from
NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 and Release 3.1 for Intel Processors.
What's going on?
NeXT Answer #1481 (May refer to 32 megs instead of 64)
A: There appear to be a number of bugs associated with accessing DOS partitions
that are larger than 64MB under NEXTSTEP. Problems that you may see are
incorrect reporting of available space on the partition, or even possibly
corruption of data. Do not use NEXTSTEP to access DOS partitions larger than
64MB. This bug is valid for both Release 3.1 and 3.2 for Intel Processors.
----------------------------------------
THis is what is causing your problem. Hopefully there will be a fix soon.
--
Stiv Ostenberg stiv@netcom.netcom.com| Sable, Saltairwise, a Claighmore
---------------------------------------+ inverted Argent, a Rowan Branch Or
Tech Support, Insignia Solutions | --<------ ------>--
---------------------------------------+ Conner MacCiaran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert)
Subject: Re: Monterscope
Message-ID: <1994Apr25.182521.1425@charon.muc.de>
Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de
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References: <CotM8p.5xv@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 18:25:21 GMT
cb.general writes
> Folks,
>
> There was an application in 2.1 days I believe called
> Monterscope that let you record a sound and do a frequency
> analysis on it. Does anyone have a copy or is there a
> replacement?
You can ftp it from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. The file is
pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/MonsterScope.2.1.N.b.g
z .
--
____________________________________________________________
Peter Eybert pjoe@charon.muc.de
Appenzellerstr. 123 Tel: +49-89-7593734
81475 Muenchen (NeXTMail welcome)
--
From: fwilliam@linus.smcm.edu (Frank Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: trn, gopher, & archie
Date: 28 Apr 1994 03:46:56 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2pnbjg$hj@umd5.umd.edu>
I am looking for a FAT version of trn, gopher and archie for
the Intel version of NeXT Step 3.2. I need the version of
archie and gopher to work from a terminal. If anyone knows
can send it to me via NeXT mail or knows where I can find
it I would appreciate it.
Frank
fwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu
--
Frank Williams
fwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: joel@boris
Subject: NewsGrazer won't Post
Content-Type: text/plain
Message-ID: <joel.94Apr27235523@boris>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 04:55:23 GMT
I have tried both version 73 & 75 and get identical failures with both. It claims to be posting and then disappears from the screen. NewsBase is able to post with no problems to the same NNTP server (nntpxfer.psi.com). Any suggestions on where the problem might be ?
Thanks in advance,
Joel Goldberger
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help! *.compressed
Date: 28 Apr 1994 05:01:12 GMT
Distribution: world
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References: <9404271817.AA29382@alleg.EDU>
Timothy J. Luoma writes
) Solution #2:
) Rename the file from *.compressed to *.tar.Z (which is what
) .compressed really means) and use Opener.app (this will
) work on 2.x as well, I believe)
Just to be anal about it, that's .gnutar.Z for the extension.
Otherwise you get a mess if the .compressed directory had long
pathnames in it.
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: bihr@next.informatik.hu-berlin.de (Tom Bihr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Monterscope
Date: 28 Apr 1994 08:22:39 GMT
Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science
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In article <CotM8p.5xv@nntpa.cb.att.com> dkk@hrdave (cb.general) writes:
> Folks,
>
> There was an application in 2.1 days I believe called
> Monterscope that let you record a sound and do a frequency
> analysis on it. Does anyone have a copy or is there a
> replacement?
I have found MonsterScope on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
It is stored as
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/MonsterScope.2.1.N.b.gz
---
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Unter den Linden 6 - 10099 Berlin
Telefon: +49 30 20181306
E-Mail (NeXT-Mail willkommen): bihr@informatik.hu-berlin.de ___ _
| | )
Push the envelope don't sit on the fence | |_)
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 28 Apr 1994 08:25:49 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2pnrud$55q@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu> <BYER.94Apr26110828@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> <2pkqet$4pt@nic-nac.CSU.net> <CEDMAN.94Apr27193721@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Let me make a few things clear:
(1) I am not saying that Emacs.app is a _bad_ thing--clearly
there's demand for it, and it represents an "advance" over
what NeXT has been distributing.
(2) I *did* read the source. And I searched for very specific
_known_ pitfalls. It almost seems as though we have two
very different versions.
(3) There is an awful lot of host environment-dependency already,
both in the C code and the elisp code. It's a little late
to feign innocence. I agree that Stallman is being an
obstructionist. Perhaps things will change with OpenStep.
[Not holding my breath...]
(4) Using NXDataLinkManager doesn't require "rewriting a
significant fraction of the GNU emacs code." File handling
is pretty well confined to two source files. The necessary
changes are quite minor.
(5) I *was* going to contribute code to make it compatible with
openfile(1), but since you seem to be more interested in
pretty screen shots than actual functionality, I'll not waste
any more of your time.
(6) My major objection is to the specific claim that Emacs.app
can serve as a replacement for Edit.app. This is just not
the case.
It may be a very good Emacs, but it's not a very good NEXTSTEP
application--even though some very talented people worked on
it, and invested enough time and effort to qualify for the
"Microsoft Windows league."
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu's message of 26 Apr 1994 21:22:25 GMT
To: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr27200521@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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<2pk0mh$arm@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 00:05:21 GMT
In article <2pk0mh$arm@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes:
Carl wrote:
> Emacs UseOpenPanel NO
>
> Hopelessly mousophile degenerates probably want to set that to YES.
> The punishment is that they'll have to use the standard File Panel
> for all file operations in Emacs.
It also has the unfortunate effect of not making the current file the
'Default' response. I don't suppose there's any way to recover that?
But it is supposed to do that in all cases where the normal emacs
query gives you a default response. I just tested that and it seems
to work. Do you have a counterexample ?
> (setq minibuffer-completion-confirm nil
> minibuffer-confirm-incomplete t)
>
> Make editing the minibuffer a little bit more comfortable.
Could you elaborate on this? I got the error message from
byte-compiling:
Tue Apr 26 11:17:20 1994
While compiling toplevel forms in file .emacs.el:
** assignment to free variable minibuffer-confirm-incomplete
That is not an error message, but a just compiler warning and quite
common in much elisp code. Don't worry about it.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: bhill@physics.ucla.edu's message of 26 Apr 1994 19:20:41 GMT
To: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 19:14:00 GMT
In article <BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu> bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) writes:
Perhaps you could tell us what to expect as new versions of emacs come out.
In particular, when 19.23 is released, do you intend to reincorporate the
changes that are necessary for Emacs.app v 4.0? Thanks.
Emacs 19 for NS began its life as a modification to GNU Emacs 19.19 at
the end of last summer. Since then I've kept it up to date with the
help of CVS. Each of the updates to 19.20, 19.21 and 19.22 was not
automatic but required relatively little manual intervention and less
than an hour of time (most of which was spent waiting for CVS to check
versions in and out). The reason for that is that I took great care
not to modify the core GNU Emacs code more than absolutely necessary
but instead kept all the additions in separate files and with
programmer interfaces which mimic the X interfaces almost perfectly.
That was, BTW, also the most common reason for not adding various
NeXTy features which testers asked for.
So I don't expect updates to 19.23 and later version to be very
difficult unless the FSF decides to radically change the way the X
interface functions are called in which case all bets are off.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for Bar-a-Coda software
Message-ID: <1994Apr28.035804.502@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <CoIA2u.J3w@demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 03:58:04 GMT
Our product, Bar-a-Coda is available from Alembic Systems International
(800) 452-7608 and Paget Press (800) 733-2031.
Bar-a-Coda is the most comprehensive application for creating bar codes
on any platform. You can create every type of bar code (over 20 in
all) in EPS and TIFF format via Services, Drag and Drop, Object Linking
and the GUI. These features allow you to seamlessly use Bar-Coda with
your favorite word processor, page layout, etc...
Moore Business Forms, one of the largest business form companies in the
world and a major supplier of bar codes has been using our products for
years.
BTW - A recent post asked about creating Pioneer 2 of 5 bar codes for
controlling a LaserDisc player. YES. Bar-a-Coda creates these too -
that's why it's comprehensive. I spoke to the person who made the post
and he's quite happy with the samples I sent him:
"Thanks very much! The barcodes that you produced do indeed work!"
For more info about Bar-a-Coda, BarCodeKit (Best of Breed ObjectWare
Nominee), BarCodeBox scanners and our other products.
Write to: info@hot.com or call + 1 617 252 0088.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP Registered ISV and Consulting
In article <CoIA2u.J3w@demon.co.uk> david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk writes:
> Hi,
>
> As the subject line says we are looking for Bar-a-coda software. Any
> information would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Regards David Knight
>
> FFC Software and Systems Limited
> 351 London Road Phone: +44 (0)702 551010
> Hadleigh Fax: +44 (0)702 551515
> Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jfr@trwlasd.com
Subject: Re: SQL Engines for NS/I?
Message-ID: <Coy7sH.3E0@trwlasd.com>
Sender: jfr@trwlasd.com (Jon Rosen)
Organization: TRW
References: <2pm6i5$oiq@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 02:48:16 GMT
Mitch Gass writes
>
> I'm looking for a modestly priced SQL engine to use as the
> back end for World Wide Web forms. The Rosebase engine
> described in last year's "Third-Party Products for NEXTSTEP"
> (and listed for $395) sounds ideal. Are there any other
> products I should consider? Any experiences, good or bad,
> with Rosebase?
I have replied directly to Mitch and would like to reply to
the net about this post. For those who aren't "in the know",
Blue Rose Systems has undergone some minor reorganization in
the past six months. Rosebase is not yet shipping although
it is still in the pipeline. I am now hoping for an end of
the year release. We will be at Expo in June and we look
forward to seeing everyone there. I apologize personally
for any elevated expectations for our product. We want it
to be the best low-cost relational database in the business
when it is released and we are working to accomplish that.
Thanks again for the interest in our company and product.
Jon Rosen
Chief Technical Officer
Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of 27 Apr 1994 04:42:05 GMT
To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
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<BYER.94Apr26110828@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> <2pkqet$4pt@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 23:37:20 GMT
In article <2pkqet$4pt@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
Let's see... it doesn't honor -NXOpen, so I can't use it as a
default application.
That's not true. Emacs understand both the -NXOpen option and the
method calls to open files once Emacs has been started. If you had
bothered to either check the documentation or the source, you would
know that.
It doesn't use NXDataLinkManager, so it won't work with RBrowser.
NXDataLinkManager is a matter of data, not user interface -- not
something which can be added without rewriting a significant fraction
of the GNU emacs code. Of course the need for the likes of RBrowser
is pretty much obviated by Emacs built-in modes, like ange-ftp, dired,
various local and remote shell modes and the like. One might even
point out that those methods for remote data access are significantly
faster over limited bandwidth links than RBrowser (which is
effectively useless over even a high speed CSLIP connection).
It has 92dpi *hardwired*, so it does the wrong thing on many color
systems. etc. etc.
The only location in the code where 92 DPI is used is in a pair of
obscure elisp functions which give the width of the height of the
screen in mm rather than pixels. Those functions aren't even called
anywhere in any code I've seen. Hardly a show stopper. Now, if you
wish to contribute software which finds out what actual physical size
the monitor connected to the system is, you are very welcome.
(I guess I shouldn't ask dumb questions like "does it support
systems with ADB keyboards.")
Why stop now just when you are on a roll ? Emacs for NS works with
every single keyboard and keymapping, foreign and domestic in
/NextLibrary/Keyboards. That includes old-style keyboards, ADB
keyboards and a wide variety of PC keyboards including 4 different
Japanese PC keyboards alone for which support was added. In contrast
to Edit.app, it even maps (and allows the rebinding of) PC keyboard
function keys and other special keys which are just ignored by most NS
apps.
"Needs work"
Let me tell you about the work in Emacs for NS. Getting Emacs to run
as well as it does under NS has over the past nine months used up
thousands of programmers hours by almost a dozen first-rate
programmers all of which worked for free with no reward beyond a
sentence or two in the thanks section of the manual. Even before it
was publicly released it went through seven alpha releases and after a
feature moratorium it went through another six beta releases for the
sole purpose of ironing out bugs and incompatibilities with obscure
hardware. During that period more than half of the two hundred beta
testers grabbed the latest release every week, tested it and many sent
in bug reports and suggestions. About a thousand of those (and a
similar number of replies) are on file here. Now please, Mr Scott,
tell us exactly how many seconds did it take you to come to and spew
forth on the net these ill founded opinions of yours ?
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 27 Apr 1994 13:02:03 GMT
To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
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<ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 23:44:36 GMT
In article <ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
Carl, Is it possible to map colors from an NXColorPanel to those that
Emacs understands? Perhaps that's another thing that could be done? It
would be really cool if "faces" accepted swatches :-)
Yes, that could be added and is on the wish list for the next release
now. I didn't realize that so many people would want to play with
colors in Emacs. :-) In any case, you can already use all the names in
all the standard NS color lists (in addition to those in Emacs.clr).
Carl Edman
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Diamond Viper and SoftPC
Message-ID: <1994Apr27.154830.17389@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 27 Apr 94 15:48:30 MDT
References: <2pknsk$7ih@crl2.crl.com>
Organization: Utah State University
In article <2pknsk$7ih@crl2.crl.com>, gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley) writes:
> What gives?
>
> Since I installed a Diamond Viper VLB card in my system, SoftPC wont run
> anymore. It says "This session does not support full screen" and then
> quits. Does SoftPC support the Diamond Viper? What's the deal?
Works fine for me. Are you trying to run windows using a windows viper dirver?
I tried to see if I could get this to work :-) but I couldn't. Is it possible
to use SoftPC in full screen with a third-party window driver to get say,
800x600 or some such?
Anyway, SoftPC running in a window and full screen works just fine for me on my
NEC P60 with the Diamond Viper PCI.
======================================================================
John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred)
Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
[Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously."
======================================================================
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic for NeXTSTEP
Date: 28 Apr 1994 09:46:03 GMT
Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks
Message-ID: <2po0kr$kth@relay2.oleane.net>
References: <1994Apr27.154007.15936@news.uminho.pt>
In article <1994Apr27.154007.15936@news.uminho.pt> gfb@dali.di.uminho.pt.
(Guilherme Fernando Bastos) writes:
>
> Is there any version of Mosaic running on NeXTSTEP ?
No.
> I've got a NeXTSTATION color and I've a compiled version of Xmosaic
> running on Xmouse. With this version, I can't hear any sounds and the
> images I get are very bad.
>
> I also have OmniWeb but I can't get any image. (I just the Icon). I
don't
> know if I need any special Viewer to display the images or to hear the
> sounds, like in Mosaic.
Fetch OmniFilter at ftp.omnigroup.com
YES you need (like in Mosaic) viewers..
> I'd like to know what are the real diferences between Mosaic & Omniweb
> --
OmniWeb is a BETA !
Hope this helps,
-------------------
Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net
OLEANE - Groupe Apysoft Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32
Internet IP/UUCP en France WWW: http://www.oleane.net/
"As you like it" [JMP]
From: os9@bga.com (Michael R. M. Cheselka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MorningStar PPP app
Date: 28 Apr 1994 04:42:26 -0500
Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2po0e2$hr4@lia.bga.com>
References: <2pi6lh$bv9@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> <2pimon$6g9@steffi.demon.co.uk>
>
>I've just spent the last 20 or so days testing MST..
>
>As far as I'm concerned it's an excellent product and well worth the
>money is you are looking for a reliable/supported piece of software.
>
How much is this product? Does anyone out there have a used copy they
would sell me?
--
cheselka@donna.rtf.utexas.edu N5UVV Michael R. M. Cheselka
os9@gnu.ai.mit.edu Hangs out on 145.21mhz 400 W. 34th. St. #103
os9@bga.org and 147.18mhz Austin, TX 78705-1331
os9@io.com W (512) 472-9549v 4pm-6pm,M-F H (512) 452-9412v 24hrs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gfb@dali.di.uminho.pt. (Guilherme Fernando Bastos)
Subject: Mosaic for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Apr27.154007.15936@news.uminho.pt>
Keywords: mosaic
Sender: newsadm@news.uminho.pt (Network News Account)
Organization: Universidade do Minho
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 15:40:07 GMT
Is there any version of Mosaic running on NeXTSTEP ?
I've got a NeXTSTATION color and I've a compiled version of Xmosaic
running on Xmouse. With this version, I can't hear any sounds and the
images I get are very bad.
I also have OmniWeb but I can't get any image. (I just the Icon). I don't
know if I need any special Viewer to display the images or to hear the
sounds, like in Mosaic.
I'd like to know what are the real diferences between Mosaic & Omniweb
--
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| NAME: Guilherme Bastos PHONE: 351 53 24434 |
| EMAIL: gfb@miro.di.uminho.pt (NeXT Mail) |
| ADDRESS: Rua Comendador Santos da Cunha, 582-1 |
| 4700 Braga - Portugal |
._____________________________________________________.
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 28 Apr 1994 00:40:59 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Apr28014059@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<ROBERT.94Apr27091642@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<SWIFT.94Apr27110648@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr27105902@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<SOWA.94Apr27151329@amdew.llnl.gov>
To: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
In-reply-to: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov's message of 27 Apr 1994 22:13:29 GMT
Exactly, started a thread on this subject this week in
gnu.misc.discuss and comp.sys.next.advocacy... I think it's dead ...
Want to revive it? :-)
--
"Kill files are for pacifists"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 2.1 to 3.x
Date: 28 Apr 1994 06:36:47 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940428123401.4578AACUK.malc@jeeves>
> I am currently using a NeXTstation running NeXTStep 2.1 which
> we bought as a bundle with Mathematica 2.0. I've been having problems
> with software I downloaded from the archives. I just get a window with
> [process exited] in it. I assume this is because I'm running an old
> version of the OS.
>
> Could anyone give me some pointers as to how I upgrade to NeXTStep 3.x
>
Who did you buy your system from in the first place?
You'll have to pay for the upgrade, but it's well worth it!
There are two people I would trust to upgrade for you in the UK:
Paul Armitage of Trimac: Paul Armitage <parmit@trimac.demon.co.uk>
Paul Lynch of P&L Systems: Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.so.uk>
If you want any forther info etc, please feel free to contact me.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569
Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569
Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972
Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk
211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, MIME welcome)
Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Control: cancel <CEDMAN.94Apr27195126@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: cancel <CEDMAN.94Apr27195126@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr27200240@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 00:02:40 GMT
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.94Apr28123312@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Control: cancel <ROBERT.94Apr28123312@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: 28 Apr 1994 11:48:01 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Apr28124801@steffi.demon.co.uk>
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Digital Librarian woes
Message-ID: <Coz2Jo.3A9@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:52:36 GMT
Digital Librarian will not index the contents of RTF files that are
embedded inside RTFD documents.
I have a huge amount of NeXTMail that I want to index using Librarian (by
storing the messages into a directory using the 'jot in' service. These
messages contain useful text, but also contain RTF files. When I 'jot'
them into my bookshelf, and index, only the message text, and not the
embedded files, get indexed.
Does anyone know of a solution to this? I am not against purchasing
something better to get the job done...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Vertex Librarian???
Message-ID: <Coz2nt.3o4@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:55:05 GMT
I was told that there was a product named Vertex Librarian that is a
much-improved replacement for Digital Librarian.
Does anyone know where I can find it? Does it still exist?
Please email responses, and I'll post a summary...
Thanks,
Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: NS/FIP software to buy
Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:49:29 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2poidp$q43@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I am a senior that is graduating in August and I would like to buy
software at academic prices.
So far I own: Dataphile v2.1, Mesa v1.5 and WriteUp
I encourage every software dealer reading this to send me junk emails
about their product and pricing.
Also, any NS/FIP software info I get will go into my FAQ for
NS/FIP Home-Brew Mailing List.
Things I am still interested in:
SyBase or Oracle type database (so I can use Database funtions in NS)
Graphics editors (ImageApp doesn't cut or edit)
DTP or other like programs
Games, although I don't play them, my friends do, I have about 10 now.
any other ideas????
Thank you all very much.
Gary Lalim
--
stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu
stimpy@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us
NeXTSTEP, the ONLY operating system worth using!!!
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 28 Apr 1994 12:38:24 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Apr28133824@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BYER.94Apr26110828@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> <2pkqet$4pt@nic-nac.CSU.net>
<CEDMAN.94Apr27193721@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<2pnrud$55q@nic-nac.CSU.net>
To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
In-reply-to: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of 28 Apr 1994 08:25:49 GMT
Hey Eric, we all friends in here OK.
Let me make a few things clear:
(1) I am not saying that Emacs.app is a _bad_ thing--clearly
there's demand for it, and it represents an "advance" over
what NeXT has been distributing.
True.
(2) I *did* read the source. And I searched for very specific
_known_ pitfalls. It almost seems as though we have two
very different versions.
Really?
(3) There is an awful lot of host environment-dependency already,
both in the C code and the elisp code. It's a little late
to feign innocence. I agree that Stallman is being an
obstructionist. Perhaps things will change with OpenStep.
[Not holding my breath...]
Well as far as the specific GUI stuff goes I'm lead to believe that
Carl abstracted the common API and you specialize by providing gui
implementations. That's how it should be and RMS is a fool to continue
with the current locked in X support.
(4) Using NXDataLinkManager doesn't require "rewriting a
significant fraction of the GNU emacs code." File handling
is pretty well confined to two source files. The necessary
changes are quite minor.
Really, Carl attempted to add some NS specific stuff but I think he
only wants to provide NS support for that which already exists in X in
order to make upgrades easier. ie. he's abstracted _commonality_ and
his NS stuff is largley specializations with the exception of Services
I think.
(5) I *was* going to contribute code to make it compatible with
openfile(1), but since you seem to be more interested in
pretty screen shots than actual functionality, I'll not waste
any more of your time.
No don't do that. I think Carl acted in a rather defensive manner
inapprorpriately (as we all do sometimes) but I'm sure he would like
you to contribute should you want to.
(6) My major objection is to the specific claim that Emacs.app
can serve as a replacement for Edit.app. This is just not
the case.
True but you have to put it into context... If you aren't using RTF
source which Emacs doesn't do anyway.. It can be considered a
replacement _in fact_ a bloody good one at that.
It may be a very good Emacs, but it's not a very good NEXTSTEP
application--even though some very talented people worked on
it, and invested enough time and effort to qualify for the
"Microsoft Windows league."
Hmm, I don't understand that statement... If it _was_ to be a
"traditional" NS app. It's support would be frozen. The most important
thing for Emacs users is the _core_ functionality and so measures must
be taken to ensure that future updates can be easily supported.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Doom for NeXTSTEP
Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:51:28 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2poihg$q43@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I did like DoomLaunch said and copied over the regestered doom.wad
from DOS and remnamed the file, and it works great in NeXTSTEP now.
If we could only get sound working, any ideas???
STiMPY
--
stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu
stimpy@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us
NeXTSTEP, the ONLY operating system worth using!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mpman@shamu.micro.umn.edu (milam paraschou)
Subject: Question on Error #2
Message-ID: <Coz5w7.J6D@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 15:07:51 GMT
I have a nextstation running 2.0 and the writenow application is not working.
Every time you try to run it, it gives a #2 Error and says problem reading
or writing to disk. If anyone knows anything about this problem please
let me know, thanks.
Milam Paraschou
University of Minnesota Student
mpman@mermaid.micro.umn.edu
From: hvillega@roxette (Hugo Villegas Roji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Agfa-NeXT via ethernet?
Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:54:53 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <2point$1cr1@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
Hi!
I istalled NeXTSTEP 3.2 in our server and we found the PrintManager does not have the possibility to conect and Agfa Accuset imagesetter via Ethernet with apple share protocols. With 3.0 it was working well but I can't install 3.0 again. Anybody out there knows how can I conect this imagesetter to our NeXT computers net?
I'll apreciate any help
Thank you in advance
.................................................................
Hugo Ernesto Villegas Roji .
Nexit Diseno Grafico .
.
Ricardo Margain Zozaya 210-5 / CP 66267 .
Valle de Santa Engracia / Garza Garcia / Nuevo Leon / Mexico .
tels. 52 (8) 335 19 14 / 335 19 15 / 335 08 87 / 356 30 53 fax .
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From: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] build a bootdisk from CD, NOT startup device
Date: 28 Apr 94 11:42:48
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Apr28114248@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
If you use BuildDisk.app to build a new hard drive, it will install all the
software from the STARTUP device, without giving you any other option.
I have removed a bunch of system files from my startup hard drive, and put in
links and other things . I would like to build my NEW hard drive from my 3.0
CD, and have its filesystem be fresh and complete. How can I do this?
If not, can anyone suggest a workaround easier than these two I thought of, or
tell me that 1) below won't work for some reason:
1) Build the disk with the modified filesystem, delete all the files, copy over
the entire contents of the 3.0 CD to the new disk, install packages as
necessary. I'm worried that a real filesystem is actually a little more
complicated than just a copy of all the CD files -- for example, where is the
"English" package that you may choose to omit from the BuildDisk.app menu?
Other languages exist as pkg files -- is English already "installed" on the CD?
2) The brute force approach: build from the modified filesystem, take that
list of discrepancies that BuildDisk generates, and fix everything by hand
(ugh).
Matt Swift
swift@bu.edu
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tcl and tk version? source?
Date: 28 Apr 1994 08:55 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28APR199408551423@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Hi. What are the latest versions of tcl and tk that are compileable on
the NeXT and where can they be found? Do you have any advice on compiling
them, etc?
Thanks.
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike Jipping)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer / Readers for NeXTstep/Intel
Date: 28 Apr 1994 16:02:31 GMT
Organization: Hope College, Holland, MI 49423
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2pommn$ao@hydra.cs.hope.edu>
I'm looking for a newsreader (NNTP client) that works on NeXTstep/Intel.
We have a few machines like that and want to read news from them!
I see references to NewsGrazer for NeXTstep on a NeXT machine...so I
wonder if it's done for Intel.
I'm not terribly NeXTstep-oriented, so be friendly --> I'm sorry if this
is an FAQ-er. We're just starting out...
Many thanks!
Mike Jipping
Hope College Department of Computer Science
jipping@cs.hope.edu (BITNET: JIPPING@HOPE)
Definition of Sys Admin: "And when he came to the place where
the wild things are they roared their terrible roars and
gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes
and showed their terrible claws till Max ... tamed them
all with a magic trick..."
-- Where the Wild Things Are, Sendak
From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 28 Apr 1994 18:18:10 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
Message-ID: <BHILL.94Apr28111810@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BYER.94Apr26110828@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> <2pkqet$4pt@nic-nac.CSU.net>
<ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<CEDMAN.94Apr27194437@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Wed, 27 Apr 1994 23:44:36 GMT
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes:
> In article <ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk>
> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: Carl, Is it
> possible to map colors from an NXColorPanel to those that Emacs
> understands? Perhaps that's another thing that could be done? It
> would be really cool if "faces" accepted swatches :-)
> Yes, that could be added and is on the wish list for the next
> release now. I didn't realize that so many people would want to
> play with colors in Emacs. :-) In any case, you can already use
> all the names in all the standard NS color lists (in addition to
> those in Emacs.clr).
IMHO, any app that takes up a lot of screen acreage should allow the user
to set the background color to something other than blazing white.
On mono machines, white is fine. On color machines, it is the
brightest of all 256^3 possible colors and I don't like staring
at 500,000 or so pixels of it.
AntiqueWhite complements the Gnu in Emacs.app's icon :) --Brian Hill
From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Tool for accessing UNIX machines
Date: 28 Apr 1994 18:25:57 GMT
Organization: WHU Koblenz
Message-ID: <2pov3l$bbp@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de>
Hello,
I think I saw some days ago a announcment for an NEXT app to access other
UNIX machines for doing such work as file copying, etc.
Unfortunatly, I can't find this announcment anymore.
Can anybody tell me if I dreamed it or if such a piece exists and where?
Thank you all in advance,
Wolfgang
--
Dipl.-Wirtsch.-Inf. Voice: +49 261 6509 173
Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 261 6509 179
WHU Koblenz E-Mail: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de
Burgplatz 2 (NeXTmail ok)
D-56179 Vallendar
Germany
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] build a bootdisk from CD, NOT startup device
Date: 28 Apr 1994 19:18:43 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2pp26j$15k@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <SWIFT.94Apr28114248@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
In article <SWIFT.94Apr28114248@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift) writes:
> I would like to build my NEW hard drive from my 3.0 CD,
> and have its filesystem be fresh and complete. How can
> I do this?
The 3.0 CD comes with a boot floppy. Connect the CD ROM drive and turn on
your NextStation and insert the boot floppy. Stop the boot process after
testing system disappears (command command tilda). Then, from the ROM
monitor, type bfd, for boot floppy device. The instructions on the floppy
will tell the NeXT to search for a CD ROM drive and boot from that.
Follow the instructions to do a fresh install on the hard drive.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: jtrimble@jpljpt.jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: internet access from home - how?
Date: 28 Apr 1994 17:51:43 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Message-ID: <2pot3f$lbl@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
I have a 486 machine running NEXTSTEP at home and I would like to be able
to connect to internet. Can anyone advise me on the best software and the
best access method? I would like to be able to send NeXTMail, use
Newsgrazer etc.
Thanks for any help.
Jay
From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 28 Apr 1994 18:01:12 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BHILL.94Apr28110112@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr26122041@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<CEDMAN.94Apr27151402@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Wed, 27 Apr 1994 19:14:00 GMT
I'm sold and have upgraded from Emacs-3.0.1 to Emacs-4.0.
Now if you could comment on a long-standing problem for windowing
versions of emacs:
Neither Emacs-4.0 nor emacs under X is launched from a shell that knows
about my environment variables, such as TEXINPUTS.
There is a simple fix for this in both X and in versions of Emacs.app
prior to 4.0. In the latter case, there was a preference to
select the emacs to run inside Emacs.app. I set it to run the
following script
#!/bin/bash
. ~/.bashrc
exec /usr/local/bin/emacs-19.22 $@
The analogous thing does _not_ work in Emacs-4.0 (see footnote).
What is the recommended solution (other than maintaining copies
in my .emacs file of all the (often site-dependent) environment
variables I find useful). Thanks. --Brian Hill
Footnote: The analogous thing would be to move the executable
/LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs to /LocalApps/Emacs.app/edmansEmacs
and to create a script /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs consisting of
#!/bin/bash
. ~/.bashrc
exec /LocalApps/Emacs.app/edmansEmacs $@
In retrospect, trying this was a little silly. The workspace thinks
two Emacs's are going, the first of which never finishes launching
until the second one quits.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: bill@pandora.gcr.com (William R. Herndon)
Subject: AVI? Is there a NeXTStep viewer?
Message-ID: <CozCtI.Dvo@pandora.gcr.com>
Sender: bill@pandora.gcr.com (William R. Herndon)
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 17:34:29 GMT
From the postings I've seen in the alt.binaries.pictures hierarchy, I as-
sume that this is some kind of motion video format mostly used with DOS
and Windoz. Is this correct? If so is there a viewer for NeXTStep?
Any information is appreciated. Thanks.
- Max
| William R. Herndon \ "My only regret in life is that I wasn't |
| bill@pandora.gcr.com \ born with a prehensile tail." |
| \ |
| NeXTMail Welcome \ - Calvin |
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Paste Up
Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:54:57 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940428205138.5207AACUP.malc@jeeves>
> In article <940427171119.373AACUm.malc@jeeves> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
> (Malcolm Crawford) writes:
>
> > This sounds great, but I really wish that AFS would tell the user
> > base they inherited. What the hell do we have to do to get this?
> > Is giving money not enough?
> >
Hey, hang on, no he didn't! I wrote the rest, in which I think I probably
agree with your point, namely
> Hope this can quiet down the complains to AFS/PasteUp. IMHO, they're
> doing a very good job.
>
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569
Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569
Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972
Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk
211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, MIME welcome)
Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Message-ID: <CozJtr.rnJ@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:05:51 GMT
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu> <ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk> <CEDMAN.94Apr27194437@capitalist.princeton.edu> <BHILL.94Apr28111810@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
In article <BHILL.94Apr28111810@spike.physics.ucla.edu>,
Brian Hill <bhill@physics.ucla.edu> wrote:
>
>IMHO, any app that takes up a lot of screen acreage should allow the user
>to set the background color to something other than blazing white.
>
>On mono machines, white is fine. On color machines, it is the
>brightest of all 256^3 possible colors and I don't like staring
>at 500,000 or so pixels of it.
>
>AntiqueWhite complements the Gnu in Emacs.app's icon :) --Brian Hill
>
Okay, give this a try:
dwrite Emacs Background somecolor
dwrite Emacs DefaultBackground somecolor
dwrite Emacs DefaultForeground someothercolor
where "somecolor" and "someothercolor" are listed in one of your .clr
files in /NextLibrary/Colors or in Emacs.clr.
Rob
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| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
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From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: New features in WriteUp?
Date: 28 Apr 1994 20:04:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Apr28160458@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
Did anyone notice the post on comp.sys.next.announce from Alembic with the
subject: PRESS RELEASE: Bundled NEXTSTEP Applications for the Office?
Write-Up [does the dash belong in the name?] was listed among those
applications, but with a few new features which were much-clamored about
because of their absence in the first release. These features include:
underline, small caps, and footnotes, among others.
Is this the same WriteUp by AFS? Is this a new version? Is it really
shipping? Comments by someone at AFS???
From: stowec0735@cobra.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DPL 3.1 for Windows by Applied Decision Analysis, Inc.
Message-ID: <1994Apr28.154304.27022@cobra.uni.edu>
Date: 28 Apr 94 15:43:04 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa
I'm currently collecting information about a piece of Decision Support
software. The name of the software is DPL 3.1 for Windows. The software was
developed by ADA (Applied Decision Analysis, Inc.).
I was wondering if anyone out there has used this product and/or tried
out the demonstration version. I'm currently writing a paper on the usability,
support of what-if analysis, the users interface, and some of the best
applications that this commercial software could be used for.
If you have used this software or have some type of opinion on it,
please e-mail me. I would like to know your opinion on this topic. Any
opinion would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
Chad Stowe
e-mail: stowec0735@cobra.uni.edu
From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 28 Apr 1994 21:20:50 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
Message-ID: <BHILL.94Apr28142050@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<CEDMAN.94Apr27194437@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr28111810@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<CozJtr.rnJ@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In-reply-to: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu's message of Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:05:51 GMT
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert Davis <davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu> writes:
Robert> In article <BHILL.94Apr28111810@spike.physics.ucla.edu>,
Robert> Brian Hill <bhill@physics.ucla.edu> wrote:
>> IMHO, any app that takes up a lot of screen acreage should allow
>> the user to set the background color to something other than
>> blazing white.
>>
>> On mono machines, white is fine. On color machines, it is the
>> brightest of all 256^3 possible colors and I don't like staring at
>> 500,000 or so pixels of it.
>>
>> AntiqueWhite complements the Gnu in Emacs.app's icon :)
Robert> Okay, give this a try:
Robert> dwrite Emacs Background somecolor
Robert> dwrite Emacs DefaultBackground somecolor
Ropert> dwrite Emacs DefaultForeground someothercolor
Robert> where "somecolor" and "someothercolor" are listed in one of
Robert> your .clr files in /NextLibrary/Colors or in Emacs.clr.
You misunderstood. I know colors are user-selectable, and I am using one
(AntiqueWhite). To be clearer, my statement is that I am happy that as
of version 4.0 Emacs.app supports color preferences and I wish this
was more often the case with other editing and viewing applications.
Let's continue with color wish lists:
Some users log into both black and white and color machines using the
same account. For them, a single background color preference may be
inadequate.
For example, NeXT provides both
owner property default value
NeXT1 BWBackgroundColor "0.333338 0.333338 0.333338"
NeXT1 BackgroundColor "light corporate blue-steel"
so that users can independently select their Workspace window color for
various hardware.
Perhaps Emacs-4.0 and other apps should emulate this? --Brian
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] build a bootdisk from CD, NOT startup device
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 15:49:24 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <ohk1B4e00UhW05jEFe@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <SWIFT.94Apr28114248@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 28-Apr-94 [Q] build a
bootdisk from C.. by Matthew Swift@acs3.nntp-
> If you use BuildDisk.app to build a new hard drive, it will install all the
> software from the STARTUP device, without giving you any other option.
>
> I have removed a bunch of system files from my startup hard drive, and put
> in links and other things . I would like to build my NEW hard drive from
> my 3.0 CD, and have its filesystem be fresh and complete. How can I do
> this?
Shut your machine down, including all drives on the SCSI bus. I would
recommend taking your old drive off of the SCSI chain entirely, for
safeties' sake. Change the SCSI ID of the CD-ROM drive to 0. Power up
your system, and enter the monitor. You may be able to boot directly
off the CD-ROM with "bsd", or you may have to insert the boot disk that
came with the NS3.0 CD, and boot with "bfd".
The system will boot off of the CD-ROM, and will ask you whether you
wish to "Perform an installation from scratch". Follow the
instructions, (including doing a format) and it will build you a clean
system.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Yftp and MouseX for Intel, wanted
Date: 28 Apr 1994 17:52:50 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2ppb7i$bt4@acme.gatech.edu>
Someone on another group mentioned that Yftp exists, and is a
graphical ftp implimentation (like GatorFTP is). I'm trying
to find it. I have Nextstep for Intel, and want a graphical
ftp app. I would think about Gatorftp, except that I like
the pie chart on it..and I hear that the new version doesn't
have it anymore.
Also, a version of MouseX/Xfe that works on intel would be
nice to find.
If anyone could give me an ftp site (and pref. a path) on
where to find these, I'd appreciate it
(btw: I've looked on cs.orst.edu for Yftp, and couldn't find it.
And I don't know if the MouseX on orst is intel-able).
John
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Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu)
========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Unix env vars; Emacs and other Unix tools
Date: 28 Apr 1994 22:37:17 GMT
Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SHIVERS.94Apr28183717@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
I frequently see posts on this group about setting environment vars for
Unix programs like LaTeX and emacs. This post shows a complete fix for
this problem, so please clip 'n save.
The env var problem is a real problem for NeXTSTEP. The problem is that if you
log in to the console, then your .login or .profile file isn't read -- your
top-level process is the Workspace app, not a shell. This means that if you
then run emacs or some other Unix tool from the dock or by double clicking on
its icon, it starts up without the proper setting for the Unix env vars it may
depend upon. For example, LaTeX needs to see the $TEXINPUTS var set if you
have your own library of LaTeX style files.
There are any number of horrible hacks that try to fix this problem in a
piecemeal fashion. One involves writing "cover" shell scripts that set the env
vars then invoke the actual program. This is not a good idea, as you cannot
then override the values from the shell. It's also clumsy and painful. I have
had tech support people at NeXT recommend this, so they are obviously unaware
of the real solution (which clearly has been carefully provided by the systems
guys at NeXT). Another trick is to have the app run a shell as a subprocess,
have it read the user's initialisation file, then send the shell a "printenv"
command, and parse the output. Also very ugly. This is what Emacs for NS's
grabenv procedure does, for example.
The following shell script shows how to directly and completely fix this
problem. The detailed comments in the source explain the technique completely.
It uses a hook in the console login system to allow you to simply set the Unix
env vars once, at top-level, when you log in at the console. Then everybody
wins.
-Olin
Everything below the dotted line is ~/bin/StartNS:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#!/bin/sh -
# Set up top-level Unix environment vars on NeXTSTEP console login.
# See the detailed comments at the end of the script.
# Make sure this program is invoked with initial args
# -LoginProgram YES
# otherwise puke. This way, if you accidentally double-click on the file,
# you won't try to run a second window manager on top of the first one.
if [ $# != 2 -o "$1" != -LoginProgram -o "$2" != YES ]; then
echo Bad arguments to top-level NeXTSTEP window startup: $0 $* 1>&2
exit 1
fi
. $HOME/.stdenv.sh
dwrite Stuart ShellPaths $PATH
exec /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace $*
# This file is the top-level program that gets invoked when I log in to
# a NeXTSTEP system from the console (as opposed to telnetting in).
# This way, you can run Unix tools such as emacs or LaTeX from the dock
# or by clicking on their icons in the file browser, and they will see
# the proper settings of Unix env vars that you have chosen.
#
# This script replaces the default Workspace application that ordinarily runs
# at top-level; when it exits, you are logged out.
#
# This program simply sets up initial Unix environment variables, such
# as PRINTER and TEXINPUTS, then execs the real Workspace app. To adapt
# it for yourself, replace my ". $HOME/.stdenv.sh" line with all your env
# var assignments and exports, and you're in business. For example:
# PRINTER=pulp
# TEXINPUTS=.:/users/shivers/lib/tex:/usr/lib/tex/inputs
# export PRINTER TEXINPUTS
#
# In order for this program to be used as the top-level login program,
# you must set a preference in the NeXT preference db:
# dwrite loginwindow Workspace <this program>
# For example, if you call this script ~/bin/StartNS, then you simply say
# dwrite loginwindow Workspace ~/bin/StartNS
#
# NEVER run this program manually. On a tty, it will puke;
# on the console, you will have two workspace managers competing.
# -Olin 3/94
####################################################################
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Another driver for BusLogic BT-445S SCSI Adapter
Message-ID: <Apr.28.19.30.14.1994.26207@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 28 Apr 94 23:30:15 GMT
References: <9404190007.AA00341@hurka>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) writes:
>3. Decision would be based on suggestion of all of you, who wants NS
>driver for your favorite SCSI card. In such a case we would like to
>find a person (namely in US), who would help us to get the technical
>documentation.
I think its great you guys are writing drivers. I suggest to write a driver
for whatever is the most popular card not yet supported.
Later, John
From: sunil@linus.smcm.edu (Sunil Punnoose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFF to .BMP coversion
Date: 28 Apr 1994 23:38:03 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's College of MD
Message-ID: <2pphcr$f1n@umd5.umd.edu>
Can anyone tell me if there is public domain version (or commercial
version) of some utility that would convert TIFF files created on a NEXT
tp PC .bmp file?
I have a lot of TIFF images that need to be converted ...
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Sunil
--
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Consultant
NEXTSTEP & Client Server Solutions
Ph: (703) 524 0045
From: sunil@linus.smcm.edu (Sunil Punnoose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: (OOPS) .TIFF TO .BMP Conversion
Date: 29 Apr 1994 00:07:22 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's College of MD
Sender: sunil@oyster.smcm.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ppj3r$g8e@umd5.umd.edu>
Summary: tiff
Can anyone tell me if there is public domain version (or commercial
version) of some utility that would convert TIFF files created on a NEXT
to a PC .bmp or .pcx format?
I have a lot of TIFF images that need to be converted ...
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Sunil
--
Sunil Punnoose
Ph: (703) 524 0045
sunil@oyster.smcm.edu
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Taylor-uucp, V42b, ZyXEL
Date: 28 Apr 1994 00:01:19 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2pmqrv$fj@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CotIB2.DD@hazel.north.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) writes:
>I do have a communication problem. Settings:
>A B
>ZyXEL U1496S V 6.01a M ZyXEL 1496 - ROM version unknown
>Black 3.2 White 3.1
>Taylor-uucp -x5 Taylor-uucp -x5
>38400/ZyXEL V42b 19200/ZyXEL V42b
>ttydfb ttydfb
>Protocol: i-1024/16. Ordinary terrestrial line.
>Both machines do nothing except uucp during this test.
>Symptoms:
>A and B are exchanging packets and ACKs happily; packets take a few
>seconds, ACKs a fraction of a second.
>Then suddenly a packet or ACK takes a long time (dozens of seconds up to
>more than a minute).
>This happens in both directions.
>Where does this packet stay all this time? In uucp buffers? In unix
>buffers? in modem buffers? And on which side?
>A ZyXEL problem, a Taylor problem, a NS problem?
>How can I find out?
The only thing I can think of at the moment is the NS/I serial driver.
Try replacing it with the Mux driver (ftp.uni-stuttgart.de:/pub/systems/
next/i486/Drivers/3.2) and see if it gets better. I never had stable
uucp connections without massive package loss until Mark Salyzyn gave us
his Mux driver.
Markus.
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/etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart
/bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: wilson@cs.umd.edu (Anne Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to port my NeXT code??
Date: 28 Apr 1994 21:14:44 -0400
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ppn24$l2o@ringding.cs.umd.edu>
I wrote 7500 lines of C++ code fo my NeXT. The code uses Mach operating
system level calls for multi-tasking, multi-threading, and message passing.
I'd like to port this code somewhere! to some hardware that will hopefully
be in existence for several years. Can anyone give any suggestions, or
suggestions about who to ask or where to look? I really want a UNIX
machine.
I understand that Sun will implementing "OpenStep" or something like that -
operating system independent NextStep. I'm not sure how much of NextStep
is operating system independent, as I thought the whole thing was object
oriented and relied on those OS level operations I described above. Does
anyone know anything about this?
Does anyone know how to contact Sun about this issue?
I would appreciate as quick as responses as possible, as I am currently
negotiating a job offer and I would like to include a request for this
equipment, whatever it may be. Also, email responses directly to me would
be appreciated. If there's interest, I'll summarize and post to the list.
Thank you!
Anne Wilson
wilson@cs.umd.edu
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 28 Apr 1994 23:56:17 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Apr29005617@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<CEDMAN.94Apr27194437@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr28111810@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<CozJtr.rnJ@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr28142050@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
To: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
In-reply-to: bhill@physics.ucla.edu's message of 28 Apr 1994 21:20:50 GMT
I think the best thing here would be to write a function that returns
the window depth.. and use that accordingly in .emacs
Probably should support NXWindowDepthLimit too for easy testing.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: twinkie@next.duq.edu (Mikey Likes it)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP3 on the NeXT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 29 Apr 1994 03:30:54 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <twinkie-280494233427@kifer.slip.duq.edu>
References: <twinkie-280494232424@kifer.slip.duq.edu>
In article <twinkie-280494232424@kifer.slip.duq.edu>, twinkie@next.duq.edu
(Mikey Likes it) wrote:
>
> I want to be able to run pop3 on a NeXT is there a program that will do
> this for the NeXT that is easy to configure.
>
> Michael
PS. Please send replyies via Email
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New features in WriteUp?
Date: 29 Apr 1994 06:43:44 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <2pqab0$7og@news.tamu.edu>
References: <SWIET.94Apr28160458@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
In article <SWIET.94Apr28160458@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>,
Alexander Swietlicki <swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> wrote:
>
>Did anyone notice the post on comp.sys.next.announce from Alembic with the
>subject: PRESS RELEASE: Bundled NEXTSTEP Applications for the Office?
>
>Write-Up [does the dash belong in the name?] was listed among those
>applications, but with a few new features which were much-clamored about
>because of their absence in the first release. These features include:
>underline, small caps, and footnotes, among others.
>
>Is this the same WriteUp by AFS? Is this a new version? Is it really
>shipping? Comments by someone at AFS???
I'm not "someone at AFS", but I can possibly answer some of
your questions without getting myself into too much trouble ;)
This is the same WriteUp (no hyphen), however I think you might
have misread the features, at least in the case of footnotes.
I have read the release just now and see several mentions of
footers, but no mention of footnotes. They are entirely different
things.
AFS _is_ planning on releasing a new WriteUp with some new features
fairly soon, but I don't _think_ they're planning on including
footnotes in it. However, they might just surprise us ;)
Lusty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: Re: Doom for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <Cp074r.AFA@cc.umontreal.ca>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <2poihg$q43@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 04:29:11 GMT
Gary L. (stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu) wrote:
: I did like DoomLaunch said and copied over the regestered doom.wad
: from DOS and remnamed the file, and it works great in NeXTSTEP now.
: If we could only get sound working, any ideas???
I.D. claims they'll eventually have time to add sound. I suppose
once they get the Jaguar version taken care of, they'll consider
finishing the muted NEXTSTEP version sometime. At present, they
don't consider it a finished product, they say, without sound.
(neither do I...)
Another thing.. I remember John Carmack posting somewhere that DOOM
on NeXT can actually run much faster, but that is by bypassing some
NEXTSTEP display routines. They didn't release a version that runs
by bypassing (which makes the game 2x faster he said?) because NEXT
doesn't allow it (or encourage it, or like it, whatever!). I had
an idea on that... What if there was a hidden key-sequence which
"for developper purposes" allows doom to cheat on the screen routines?
Then, if "somehow, people found out how to put it in that mode",
well, it wouldnt be "Id software's problem". :)
I just love the sound and music on doom on the PC.
: STiMPY
: --
: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu
: stimpy@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us
: NeXTSTEP, the ONLY operating system worth using!!!
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"Break!" -- Korba
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of 28 Apr 1994 08:25:49 GMT
To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
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In article <2pnrud$55q@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
Let me make a few things clear:
(1) I am not saying that Emacs.app is a _bad_ thing--clearly
there's demand for it, and it represents an "advance" over
what NeXT has been distributing.
I'm glad to hear you say that.
(2) I *did* read the source. And I searched for very specific
_known_ pitfalls. It almost seems as though we have two
very different versions.
Very well. If you think that you've found a _specific_ bug (and
doubtlessly some exist) please let me know -- that is one of the
advantages of distributing source. Generally, such things are handled
in email, but if it gives you such pleasure to critic my code in a
public forum, I'll gladly take patches from this newsgroup if it
results in a less buggy, more portable Emacs for NS.
(3) There is an awful lot of host environment-dependency already,
both in the C code and the elisp code. It's a little late
to feign innocence. I agree that Stallman is being an
obstructionist. Perhaps things will change with OpenStep.
[Not holding my breath...]
That's true. The difference is that the host dependency which RMS
puts in automatically is kept up to date from release to release. If
I put something NS dependent into the main source files, the patches
from the FSF don't give a damn about it, greatly increasing the time
spent by us maintaining the core functionality and increasing the
likelihood that one day we just won't any longer be able to do it.
(4) Using NXDataLinkManager doesn't require "rewriting a
significant fraction of the GNU emacs code." File handling
is pretty well confined to two source files. The necessary
changes are quite minor.
Even if, as you claim, the changes could be confined to two files,
they would still represent a large change to the emacs core files
compared to what has been done so far. As I've explained in another
article in this thread, I've been very reluctant to make any changes
to the source files as distributed by the FSF because every change
made to those files will make application of future GNU Emacs
improvements much harder.
(5) I *was* going to contribute code to make it compatible with
openfile(1), but since you seem to be more interested in
pretty screen shots than actual functionality, I'll not waste
any more of your time.
How shall I convince you ? I've said so before and so have others in
this group. Actually trying the source should have convinced you.
Emacs today works with open(1) (after all, openfile(1) has no added
functionality and hardwired to Edit.app), it accepts files which you
double-click in the Workspace (either before or after launching
Emacs), it accepts drag and drop and it even accepts opening files
at specific lines from the ProjectBuilder error list.
BTW, let me thank you for being the first to refer to Emacs for NS
screen shots as pretty (apart from Joe Reiss beautiful icons).
(6) My major objection is to the specific claim that Emacs.app
can serve as a replacement for Edit.app. This is just not
the case.
I don't recall ever having made that claim. So let it be quite clear
that Edit.app has advantages over Emacs for NS, such as understanding
of rtf files, cooperation with gdb, a nicer scroll bar and better
handling of proportional fonts. At least the later three will be
coming to Emacs for NS earlier or later and already it offers great
advantages over Edit.app most important of which being its extreme
customizability which those who are used to it are loath to miss (and
of course the fact that it is available on virtually all platforms).
For many users and developers these advantages so far outweigh the
disadvantages that they've replaced Edit with Emacs for almost all
tasks and I believe that as more people get access to Emacs for NS,
many if not most developers will do so.
It may be a very good Emacs, but it's not a very good NEXTSTEP
application--even though some very talented people worked on
it, and invested enough time and effort to qualify for the
"Microsoft Windows league."
One distinction to draw here is however that Microsoft Windows
programmers are at least well rewarded financially. The people who
created Emacs for NS apparently can expect no reward greater to be
insulted on the net by you.
Carl Edman
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: bhill@physics.ucla.edu's message of 28 Apr 1994 18:01:12 GMT
To: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:45:48 GMT
In article <BHILL.94Apr28110112@spike.physics.ucla.edu> bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) writes:
I'm sold and have upgraded from Emacs-3.0.1 to Emacs-4.0.
Now if you could comment on a long-standing problem for windowing
versions of emacs:
This is a problem which many people have had with Emacs interfaces
under NS, so Emacs for NS includes code to fix this (which I think was
also mentioned in the original article of this thread). Just add
these lines to your ~/.emacs and emacs will acquire the shell
environment:
(if window-system
(grabenv))
By default grabenv grabs the csh environment, but this should grab
your bash environment:
(if window-system
(grabenv "/usr/local/bin/bash" "source /etc/profile"
"source ~/.bash_profile" "source ~/.bashrc" "printenv"))
The reason that grabenv is conditionalized on window-system being set
is that grabenv takes a second or two and if you are running emacs
under a terminal (i.e. window-system == nil), you probably don't need
it.
Carl Edman
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: bhill@physics.ucla.edu's message of 28 Apr 1994 18:18:10 GMT
To: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
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In article <BHILL.94Apr28111810@spike.physics.ucla.edu> bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) writes:
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes:
> In article <ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk>
> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: Carl, Is it
> possible to map colors from an NXColorPanel to those that Emacs
> understands? Perhaps that's another thing that could be done? It
> would be really cool if "faces" accepted swatches :-)
> Yes, that could be added and is on the wish list for the next
> release now. I didn't realize that so many people would want to
> play with colors in Emacs. :-) In any case, you can already use
> all the names in all the standard NS color lists (in addition to
> those in Emacs.clr).
IMHO, any app that takes up a lot of screen acreage should allow the user
to set the background color to something other than blazing white.
On mono machines, white is fine. On color machines, it is the
brightest of all 256^3 possible colors and I don't like staring
at 500,000 or so pixels of it.
AntiqueWhite complements the Gnu in Emacs.app's icon :)
But you can use colors ! Just check the manual as shipped with emacs
or try hilit19.el. To set the default background color to
AntiqueWhite, just add this dwrite:
dwrite Emacs Background AntiqueWhite
This does work and if that shade doesn't please you there are two
hundred different shades of gray along in the default Emacs.clr.
The above discussion was only about whether you should be able to
select colors from the NS color swatch and not only by name.
Carl Edman
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From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Agfa-NeXT via ethernet?
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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 08:51:35 GMT
In article <2point$1cr1@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> hvillega@roxette (Hugo
Villegas Roji) writes:
> Hi!
>
> I istalled NeXTSTEP 3.2 in our server and we found the
PrintManager does not have the possibility to conect and Agfa Accuset
imagesetter via Ethernet with apple share protocols. With 3.0 it was
working well but I can't install 3.0 again. Anybody out there knows how
can I conect this imagesetter to our NeXT computers net?
> I'll apreciate any help
I can send you a explanation but it is in german.
Tell me no one else responds, then i start translating!
I tried to reach you by mail but i couldnt reach you!
Hope it helps
Hans
From: michael@hesta.com (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: WAIS Client?
Date: 28 Apr 1994 13:01:57 GMT
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Is there a WAIS client (like OMNIWEB is for WWW) out there anywhere. I
feel like an idiot asking such a question but we are a 20 site NEXT based
office, and we are all in Real Estate investment management and
development. I am trying to access the DOWVISION WAIS server which is
free for the time bieng to access the WALL ST JOURNAL archives....
Any help (no flames) would be appreciated
PS> OMNI WEB is fabulous...try it....
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From: michael@hesta.com (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where is OmniWeb?
Date: 28 Apr 1994 13:05:23 GMT
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References: <netnewsCoK2nJ.EJq@netcom.com>
In article <netnewsCoK2nJ.EJq@netcom.com> aboba@netcom.com (Bernard Aboba)
writes:
> Have heard a lot about this new WWW browser, but can't seem to find a
> copy. Where is it available?
Try info@omnigroup.com for ftp availability....
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From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 29 Apr 1994 08:34:22 GMT
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>>>>> "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes:
In article <CEDMAN.94Apr28093551@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
Carl> (6) My major objection is to the specific claim that
Carl> Emacs.app can serve as a replacement for Edit.app. This is just
Carl> not the case.
Carl> I don't recall ever having made that claim. So let it be quite
Carl> clear that Edit.app has advantages over Emacs for NS, such as
Carl> understanding of rtf files
This probably a a non-issue, due to Emacs' mode driven highlighing, but
has anyone given any thought to the possibility of an elisp rich-text parser?
Perhaps the effort would be better spent enhancing packages such as WWW-mode.
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From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: SQL Engines for NS/I?
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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 09:36:15 GMT
In article <2pm6i5$oiq@agate.berkeley.edu> mitch@mills.edu (Mitch
Gass) writes:
> I'm looking for a modestly priced SQL engine to use as the
> back end for World Wide Web forms. The Rosebase engine
> described in last year's "Third-Party Products for NEXTSTEP"
> (and listed for $395) sounds ideal. Are there any other
> products I should consider? Any experiences, good or bad,
> with Rosebase?
>
> Please send replies via e-mail; I'll summarize if there's
> interest.
>
> Mitch Gass
> mitch@mills.edu
Hi,
Try QuickBase from SofSolutions
Phone: 603 495 4100
Email: sdc_demo@gun.com for a demo >1Mb
We have been using it for the last six months in commercial apps and
are very happy with it.
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 29 Apr 1994 07:17:22 GMT
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To: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
In-reply-to: bhill@physics.ucla.edu's message of 28 Apr 1994 18:18:10 GMT
In article <BHILL.94Apr28111810@spike.physics.ucla.edu> bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill) writes:
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes:
> In article <ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk>
> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: Carl, Is it
> possible to map colors from an NXColorPanel to those that Emacs
> understands? Perhaps that's another thing that could be done? It
> would be really cool if "faces" accepted swatches :-)
> Yes, that could be added and is on the wish list for the next
> release now. I didn't realize that so many people would want to
> play with colors in Emacs. :-) In any case, you can already use
> all the names in all the standard NS color lists (in addition to
> those in Emacs.clr).
IMHO, any app that takes up a lot of screen acreage should allow the user
to set the background color to something other than blazing white.
On mono machines, white is fine. On color machines, it is the
brightest of all 256^3 possible colors and I don't like staring
at 500,000 or so pixels of it.
AntiqueWhite complements the Gnu in Emacs.app's icon :) --Brian Hill
I don't under what is the problem??
You can do this already, right...
;;; Set up environment
(cond
((eq window-system 'ns)
(grabenv)
;;; Set up colors
(set-face-foreground 'modeline "White")
(set-face-background 'modeline "Dark Gray")
(setq default-frame-alist '((background-color . "Black") (foreground-color
. "White") (cursor-type . box) (cursor-color . "Dark Gray")))))
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
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Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 29 Apr 1994 07:19:56 GMT
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To: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
In-reply-to: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu's message of Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:05:51 GMT
In article <CozJtr.rnJ@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes:
Okay, give this a try:
dwrite Emacs Background somecolor
dwrite Emacs DefaultBackground somecolor
dwrite Emacs DefaultForeground someothercolor
where "somecolor" and "someothercolor" are listed in one of your .clr
files in /NextLibrary/Colors or in Emacs.clr.
IMHO: dwrites are a pain... I chose to localize all my settings in
.emacs..
;;; Set up environment
(cond
((eq window-system 'ns)
(grabenv)
;;; Set up colors
(set-face-foreground 'modeline "White")
(set-face-background 'modeline "Dark Gray")
(setq default-frame-alist '((background-color . "Black") (foreground-color
. "White") (cursor-type . box) (cursor-color . "Dark Gray")))))
;;; Set geometry
(setq initial-frame-alist '((top . 1) (left . 550) (width . 80)
(height . 55)))
That's last one probably belongs in the condition actually... being an
frame an all.
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
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Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 29 Apr 1994 07:14:57 GMT
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To: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
In-reply-to: bhill@physics.ucla.edu's message of 28 Apr 1994 18:01:12 GMT
Looks like carl forgot to document (grabenv)
he posted this to the list during beta.
* grabenv, a new little function which isn't really related to much of
anything else but which I believe many of you will find useful. If
Emacs is launched from the Workspace, it doesn't run as the child of
any shell. As a consequence it doesn't have any of the environment
variable settings from your ~/.cshrc, etc. files which is a problem
for some people. grabenv runs a shell, parses its environment and puts
all the variables into your emacs environment and so fixes that
problem. However, grabenv takes a second or two, at least on my old
slab so you don't want to run it unless you need it. If your shell is
csh, the typical grabenv invocation from your ~/.emacs file would be
(if (eq window-system 'ns) (grabenv)). If you want to pick up the
environment of another shell, you'll have to supply a few arguments.
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From: gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: tex und 3.2
Date: 29 Apr 1994 10:40:54 GMT
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hallo
aerger mit tex und nextstep3.2?
hab das so am rande ja schon mitgekriegt.
aber nie aerger gehabt, solange ich nur briefe geschrieben habe.
gestern abend wollte ich einen report ausdrucken.
und das liess sich nicht mehr uebersetzen.
fakt ist, report.sty und article.sty machen aerger mit der deutschen
(german.sty) tex version.
was ist die loesung?
alte tex version vom band ziehen?
neues duetsches paket im netz besorgen?
(endlich auf Framemaker umsteige??)
danke
SfR
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From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 29 Apr 1994 11:26:57 GMT
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Marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) wrote...
>>>>>> "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes:
>In article <CEDMAN.94Apr28093551@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>
>Carl> Edit.app has advantages over Emacs for NS, such as
>Carl> understanding of rtf files
>
>This probably a non-issue, due to Emacs' mode driven highlighing, but
>has anyone given any thought to the possibility of an elisp rich-text parser?
>Perhaps the effort would be better spent enhancing packages such as WWW-mode.
>
I've considered the possibility of an rtf-mode. There were two
problems standing in my way, though. First is that I'm just not that
great of an elisp hacker yet. The second, and more fundamental
problem, is that Emacs 19 doesn't handle multiple font sizes well at
all. The rectangle assigned to a character is fixed, and characters
larger than that rectangle just get truncated, I believe. That may
not be exactly correct, but the gist is that you can't make BIG fonts
and small fonts live together in the same buffer properly yet.
I hear that's supposed to be supported eventually in the basic FSF
Emacs. When that happens, rtf-mode will become a distinct and viable
possibility.
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From: kl51101@nextmm.lrz-muenchen.de ()
Subject: Demo of Framemaker for Intel?
Message-ID: <1994Apr29.140134.28191@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 14:01:34 GMT
Does anyone have a demo of Framemaker for the NEXTstep-486?
I know working with it on Motorola, but I like to use it for Intel and
heard about some (3.0 or 3.1). Can someone send it to me by e-mail?
Anybody who knows something about future of Framemaker?
Thanks, Alexandra kl51101@nextmm.lrz-muenchen.de
From: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Networking SoftPC?
Date: 29 Apr 1994 09:22:35 -0500
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin; Milwaukee Wisconsin
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Does Soft PC provide networking support? In particular, can it connect to a
Windows for Workgroups network?
On a more general note, how well does soft PC work? How often does it crash?
Thanks for any help,
Bob Morris
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From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Object-Oriented CASE
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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:41:58 GMT
I'm interested in any OO tools too. I recommend VNP Software's
"DevMan" for revision control. Contact info@vnp.com for more
information.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
In article <2pgroe$1vki@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
jvalero@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Jesus Valero) writes:
>
> Does anybody know any Object-Oriented CASE for NextStep?
>
> This CASE must have the next features:
>
> - Object Modeling
> - Data Modeling
> - Dynamic Modeling
> - Functional Modeling
>
> Also, I would Like to know if anybody knows any project management
tools
> and project control tools (version control tools) for NextStep?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Ing. Jesus Valero Torrero Voice : 58-20-00 Ext.
4103
> ITESM, Campus Monterrey NeXT mail:
jvalero@roxette.mty.itesm.mx
> Sotano del CETEC e-mail :
jvalero@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
From: michael@cogito.iaee.tuwien.ac.at (Michael Suessner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EPS2tiff Conversion
Date: 29 Apr 1994 15:11:05 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <2pr829$su5@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Is there a public domain software, with which I can convert EPS-images into
tiff images. I don't want to write a little application.
Salute
Suessner Michael
From: michael@hesta.com (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT WAIS client?
Date: 28 Apr 1994 19:40:11 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <2pp3er$7a9@corporate.hesta.com>
Is there one? I thought I posted this earlier, but it's missing...I am
trying to access DOWVISIONS wais server for the WALL STREET JOURNAL
database.
--
Michael Verruto - michael@hesta.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Subject: NSI: OmniImageFilter for Intel??
Message-ID: <1994Apr29.154023.776@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News)
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 15:40:23 GMT
Hello,
I am looking for OmniImageFilter and OmniImage.app for INTEL hardware. Is
that available somewhere (the binaries on the omni ftp server are only for
M68k hardware)?
Thanks,
Helmut
--
Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________
FAX: 089/2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
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Phone: 089/2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------
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Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: SUBMISSION: 3DDeviceServer. A PDO based hardware server
Message-ID: <Cp0Lqz.7J@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Keywords: dataglove, 3Dmouse, PDO, BeakerBoy, server
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab.
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 09:44:58 GMT
Uploaded to ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (28.04.94) and cs.orst.edu
(soon), ftp.embl-heidelberg.de (SCI-tools ? maybe)
Release 0.5, 28.04.1994 by Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org)
The 3DDeviceServer
Application
This NeXTSTEP application is a general purpose device server. It is the
central part of a collection of various device drivers for many different
3D hardware tools. With the help form NeXTs DO/PDO system it will allow an
easy 'plugin' into existing software that may run distributed accross a
network.
The server tries to simplify shared access to one hardware device by
multiple clients (or as I call them: device targets). In addition to that
it will allow switching between different devices while they are in use.
Using the Server
Just start the server. When you click on one of the buttons from the
Device windows scrollview, the corresponding driver will become active.
Detailed information on how to use the program can be found inside the
online help system.
For more information on how to use the server in your own projects please
read the tutorial in the second chapter.
The Package
Version 0.5 comes in a package that includes:
3DDeviceServer.app. Binary for NeXT and Intel hardware with two
included 3D mouse drivers (details later).
Online Help
Full Sourcecode
Documentation and a ASCII version (README) of this Introduction
On where to find the latest releases please see the 'About this Project'
section.
Features
This project is still some kind of beta although it runs very stable. From
all the possible devices that this server offers access methods for
(mouse, glove, display, scanner, motionTracker) only the mouse method will
return a valid driver.
Right now I only have a 3D mouse API. If you would like to help designing
APIs for other equipment please let me know.
The connections to devices work via the servers PDO port named
"<hostname>/3DDeviceServer". But at this moment it is fixed to
"localhost/ ".
For more details read the Release Notes and some History.
The only 3D mouse the server does support is the SpaceMouse (Driver
release v 0.8). It is the only mouse I own. In my opinion it is the best
3D mouse solution I have seen so far. More information about the hardware
can be found in the online help.
The other 'mouse' is the Virtual 3D Mouse (Driver release v 0.6). It is
just a simple GUI (slider based) pseudo mouse. Good for testing your
software and for setting exact rotation values.
Supporting Software
Currently (as of 28.4.94) there is no publicly available application that
is able to use this server. But two projects are underway.
BeakerBoy.
My privat chemistry program and the reason why I wrote this server.
Version 0.3 will include 3D mouse support but is not ready yet
because I need to include the IconKit before I put it on the net
archives.The code used to handle to 3D mouse events can be found
inside the tutorial.
solidThinking MODELER.
Guido Quaroni from Gestel was one of the early supporters of this
server. He is trying to include 3D mouse control into the v2.0
release that will be demo'ed at the NEXTSTEP EXPO '94.
For details on the support I might give other programmers please read the
tutorial. If you are a user and would like to use a 3D mouse in your
vavorite application you should contact its developers. Maybe they haven't
heard of this server or they think it is not worth 10-20 minutes of
programming unless someone needs it.
Future plans
Here are the most wanted improvements form my ToDo-list. More can be found
in the online help.
PDO naming should include the hostname of the machine it is running
on.
Loading the drivers from bundles. Well quite easy but it needs some
time.
Forcing my brother to repaint my device icons. They are ugly.
I like datagloves so I might take a look at the PowerGlove code
moving around the net. Gloves might be a subclass of 3DMouse adding
absolut postitons (transformationEvent:isAbsolut:) and data on the
fingers (fingerEvent:). This way 3D mouse systems with absolut
positions couse work as gloves as well. We might also have a right
and leftGlove in our server.
About this Project
Development will continue but not at very high speed because the main
project is still the BeakerBoy application.
At this moment it is still not clear if the driver objects and this server
program will find their way into the MiscKit project.
The latest version of this server will be available at the
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de or cs.orst.edu anonymous ftp servers.
SpaceControl will have access to the latest version too, so when you want
to buy a mouse just tell them that you are using a NeXTSTEP system. This
will cost no extra charge! (as they assured me)
Compiling
This version includes all the source code needed to just compile the
program from scratch. In the future I won't include objects that are part
of the MiscKit distribution. So if you need to recompile the application
you will need to get the MiscKit project from the archives.
For more details on the MiscKit collection see the ftp servers mentioned
above or get the Objective-C or NeXT faqs. If you would like to submit
something to this collection you should contact: Don Yacktman
<don@darth.byu.edu>
In Case of Trouble
If you have any questions you might contact me.
Thomas Engel
Netpunstr. 9
D-90522 Oberasbach
Germany
E-mail: tsengel@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org
I would like to thank my brother (IconDesign), Matt Brandts
(MiscSerialPort), DLR & SpaceControl (hardware questions), Guido Quaroni
(software support) and NeXT (PDO is quite cool) for making my work easier.
Warrenty and copyright
Copyleft
Source code that is not part of the MiscKit project - and therefore
underlies the MiscKit distribution and copyright rules - is distributed
under the GNUpublic license.
If you want to write a device driver that you would like to sell, please
contact me.
No Warrenty
This software is provided 'as is' and the programmer is not responsible
for any harm this program may cause.
You - the user - are responsible for everything that may happen to your
business, hardware, software, car, CD collection or what ever may be worth
your attention or money.
The use of this product is at your own risk and your private fun.
There should be no serious bugs inside but remember that a carbon-based
unit did the coding.
TravelWare
Like all my projects this app is free and should be considered as
travel-ware.
- Let it travel to as many people you know.
- Send me a postcard or E-mail if you use it. I will try to keep
you informed about new releases.
- If you have a free bed or some free space on your floor give me
a hint. I might come and visit you on my trip to the US
(locations on Hawaii, near Seattle or WhistlerMnt. preferred)
Enjoy it.
--
____________________________________________________
(tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel
Neptunstr. 9
NeXTMail welcome 90522 Oberasbach
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Digital Librarian woes
Message-ID: <Cp0sK5.F3@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <Coz2Jo.3A9@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 12:12:04 GMT
In article <Coz2Jo.3A9@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes:
> Digital Librarian will not index the contents of RTF files that are
> embedded inside RTFD documents.
>
> I have a huge amount of NeXTMail that I want to index using Librarian (by
> storing the messages into a directory using the 'jot in' service. These
> messages contain useful text, but also contain RTF files. When I 'jot'
> them into my bookshelf, and index, only the message text, and not the
> embedded files, get indexed.
>
> Does anyone know of a solution to this? I am not against purchasing
> something better to get the job done...
Why not use MailSearch.app? No need to duplicate anything. works great on NeXTMail too. It's on the
archives.
Juergen
---
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Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new generation of soap powder ?
From: michael@mvhome.hesta.com (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lotus Notes? -NAHH......MINDSHARE!!!
Date: 29 Apr 1994 01:14:25 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <2ppn1h$7vc@corporate.hesta.com>
References: <jaboweryCoo4zI.1r8@netcom.com>
In article <jaboweryCoo4zI.1r8@netcom.com> jabowery@netcom.com (Jim
Bowery) writes:
> Does anyone know of a product that is compatible with Lotus Notes?
> --
> The promotion of politics exterminates apolitical genes in the
population.
> The promotion of frontiers gives apolitical genes a route to survival.
Try mindshare! Its great from pangea corp. TRULY distributed database
capability...the list goes on and on...Write them @ MindShare@pangea.com
for more info ...it's FAR BETTER than notes...And it might be compatible!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman)
Subject: Century Schoolbook font
Message-ID: <Cp19w2.Fs9@ncifcrf.gov>
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 18:26:26 GMT
Does anyone know where I can obtain this font? It seems to be a
rather popular font on the PC, the extent that it is the standard
font used in my lab. Any info would be appreciated.
David Kelman
kelman@fconvx.ncifcrf.gov (non-NeXTmail)
From: POLIFF@STDNTMAIL.LMU.EDU (PHILLIP CHARLES OLIFF)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 14:34:31
Organization: LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY
Message-ID: <POLIFF.32.000E93B3@STDNTMAIL.LMU.EDU>
Does anyone know when OPENSTEP will be available for
Solaris? (SUNOS) Also, Which venders will be supported? (software and Hardware)
Thank You-
Phillip Oliff
+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
PHILLIP CHARLES OLIFF POLIFF@STDNTMAIL.LMU.EDU
LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY POLIFF@LMUMAIL.LMU.EDU
1734 WARNALL AVENUE 310-915-3983
LOS ANGELES, CA 90024-5339
In the endless persuit of Wonder . . .
=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=\=
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Feature request for Emacs for NS.
Date: 29 Apr 1994 20:26:42 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Apr29212642@steffi.demon.co.uk>
I don't think there's currently anyway to ensure that Emacs doesn't
become first responder when it's lanched is there?
All "hide" tricks don't do what [NXApp activateSelf:NO] does..
Emacs should only become active if there is no other active app.
What does the X version do in this regard?
Try this...
Launch emacs and type away in a window whist it is launching... What
it hijack your key strokes when it's launched.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Feature request for Emacs for NS.
Date: 30 Apr 1994 00:46:29 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ps9p5$jmp@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <ROBERT.94Apr29212642@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) wrote...
>I don't think there's currently anyway to ensure that Emacs doesn't
>become first responder when it's lanched is there?
>
>All "hide" tricks don't do what [NXApp activateSelf:NO] does..
>
>Emacs should only become active if there is no other active app.
Probably true. Originally, Emacs *NEVER* became the active app when
launched. You always had to go over and click on it after launching.
Then it was made to become the active app always. But that created
the problem you mentioned. So it probably should be made to behave as
you've indicated. How? Don't look at me, I'm just a contributor and
a NS/ObjC amateur :-)
Related to this is that Emacs starts up active, releases its active
status (so whatever was active before is now active again), then
reactivates itself, which causes some annoyances.
It *should* start up active and not change its state from then on. If
another app is then made active, Emacs should not interfere.
>What does the X version do in this regard?
The X version does nothing. In X, the window manager is responsible
for chosing which window responds to key presses. Emacs has no say in
the matter.
Joe
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From: kenw@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth A. Worthy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tool to cut snippets from a tif file
Date: 30 Apr 1994 00:59:01 GMT
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Message-ID: <2psagl$5pf@nkosi.well.com>
Is there any graphics tool running on NeXTStep that will cut snippets from a
.tif file?
I.e., I want to cut out part of a .tif image and then paste it into a Draw
or WriteNow document.
Ken Worthy
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Feature request for Emacs for NS.
Date: 30 Apr 1994 01:21:04 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2psbq0$jpt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <ROBERT.94Apr29212642@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2ps9p5$jmp@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) wrote...
>Robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) wrote...
>>Emacs should only become active if there is no other active app.
>
>Probably true. Originally, Emacs *NEVER* became the active app when
>launched. You always had to go over and click on it after launching.
>Then it was made to become the active app always. But that created
>the problem you mentioned. So it probably should be made to behave as
>you've indicated. How? Don't look at me, I'm just a contributor and
>a NS/ObjC amateur :-)
BTW, I'd be willing to bet the problem comes in the ns_check_available
routine. I first started noticing weird things happening with this
when that check was added. What with its creating and destroying of
DPS contexts, I could easily believe that somewhere in there it could
wind up relinquishing active status back to the caller.
Thus, when the Workspace calls Emacs and becomes inactive, Emacs runs
this check, deactivates itself and puts the Workspace back in place.
So now, when Emacs gets around to making its [activateSelf:] call,
it's pretty much screwed. If it does [activateSelf:NO], then it won't
become active because the Workspace has become active again.
[activateSelf:YES] causes the current problem of ALWAYS becoming
active even when another app should be active.
Someone with a better grasp of NS and DPS might want to look at
ns_check_available and see if the problem doesn't lie there and if
there is some way to provide the same functionality without giving up
Emacs' active status.
Joe
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS2tiff Conversion
Date: 29 Apr 1994 23:21:35 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2psirv$j6k@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <2pr829$su5@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Michael Suessner writes
> Is there a public domain software, with which I can convert EPS-images into
> tiff images. I don't want to write a little application.
>
> Salute
> Suessner Michael
>
Yes.. (sort of)
There is a NEXT MiniExample called TIFFandEPS that does just that.
Its on ftp.next.com in /pub/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/1255.compressed
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley)
Subject: Re: MorningStar PPP app
Message-ID: <1994Apr29.222828.9604@bozell.com>
Sender: news@bozell.com
Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc.
References: <2pimon$6g9@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 22:28:28 GMT
In article <2pimon$6g9@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert
Nicholson) writes:
> I've just spent the last 20 or so days testing MST..
>
> As far as I'm concerned it's an excellent product and well worth the
> money is you are looking for a reliable/supported piece of software.
I agree. I've enjoyed MST's implementation of PPP for NEXTSTEP for several
months now. No connection, just a satisfied user.
--
Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com
Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox
Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax
Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 28 Apr 1994 23:56:17 GMT
To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr29093038@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr24232418@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<ROBERT.94Apr27140203@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<CEDMAN.94Apr27194437@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr28111810@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<CozJtr.rnJ@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
<BHILL.94Apr28142050@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
<ROBERT.94Apr29005617@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 13:30:38 GMT
In article <ROBERT.94Apr29005617@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
I think the best thing here would be to write a function that returns
the window depth.. and use that accordingly in .emacs
Probably should support NXWindowDepthLimit too for easy testing.
No need to write such a function. Here is a partial list of functions
which tell emacs about what kind of display is connected:
display-color-p, color-defined-p, display-pixel-width,
display-pixel-height, display-mm-width, display-mm-height,
display-screens, display-planes, display-color-cells,
display-visual-class, display-backing-store, display-save-under.
All of these work under X and NS.
To do what Brian requires, you'd do something like this in your
~/.emacs (sorry, no dwrites for that kind of thing):
(setq default-frame-alist
(cons (cons 'background-color (if (display-color-p) "AntiqueWhite" "White"))
default-frame-alist))
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Feature request for Emacs for NS.
In-Reply-To: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of 30 Apr 1994 01:21:04 GMT
To: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr29220111@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <ROBERT.94Apr29212642@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<2ps9p5$jmp@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
<2psbq0$jpt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 02:01:11 GMT
In article <2psbq0$jpt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes:
Jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) wrote...
>Robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) wrote...
>>Emacs should only become active if there is no other active app.
>
>Probably true. Originally, Emacs *NEVER* became the active app when
>launched. You always had to go over and click on it after launching.
>Then it was made to become the active app always. But that created
>the problem you mentioned. So it probably should be made to behave as
>you've indicated. How? Don't look at me, I'm just a contributor and
>a NS/ObjC amateur :-)
BTW, I'd be willing to bet the problem comes in the ns_check_available
routine. I first started noticing weird things happening with this
when that check was added. What with its creating and destroying of
DPS contexts, I could easily believe that somewhere in there it could
wind up relinquishing active status back to the caller.
Thank you. That turns out to be the real problem. Fortunately one of
those two tests in ns_check_available() is redundant. So just killing
the DPSGetContext() test and the [NXApp activateSelf:YES] line
together has the ultimately desired result.
Carl Edman
PS: But no thanks for only telling me this one week after the release
so that I had a chance to make a fool of myself ! :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: penrose@jesus.Princeton.EDU (Christopher Penrose)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Message-ID: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr27193721@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 04:50:04 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.94Apr27193721@capitalist.princeton.edu>
> Now please, Mr Scott,
> tell us exactly how many seconds did it take you to come to and spew
> forth on the net these ill founded opinions of yours ?
Don't mind Mr. Scott, it is rare that he shows us anything but
products of his asshole.
I thank you (and the others mentioned) for your work on this
application, it will undoubtedly make my computing life easier.
Christopher Penrose
penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu
From: wjs@manta.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSI: OmniImageFilter for Intel??
Date: 30 Apr 1994 01:11:47 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2pt3s3$2rm@manta.omnigroup.com>
References: <1994Apr29.154023.776@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) writes:
>Hello,
>I am looking for OmniImageFilter and OmniImage.app for INTEL hardware. Is
>that available somewhere (the binaries on the omni ftp server are only for
>M68k hardware)?
We only received the source code to the underlying libraries yesterday,
so we haven't compiled fat yet, but should have something out by Tuesday.
We will then put OIF on the normal archive sites.
OIF now includes the ability save in different formats as well, so you can use
it as a general image type converter.
-W
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Demo of Framemaker for Intel?
Date: 30 Apr 1994 10:01:35 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2pta9v$9hp@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <1994Apr29.140134.28191@news.lrz-muenchen.de>
kl51101@nextmm.lrz-muenchen.de wrote:
: Does anyone have a demo of Framemaker for the NEXTstep-486?
: I know working with it on Motorola, but I like to use it for Intel and
: heard about some (3.0 or 3.1). Can someone send it to me by e-mail?
: Anybody who knows something about future of Framemaker?
:
My usual response is "Go bug Frame -- it's only if they realise that
people want FrameMaker on NEXTSTEP that they'll port it to Intel, and
maybe even bring out version 4.x for NEXTSTEP."
I read recently, however, that they just dropped support for OS/2...
Whatever we say here, I'm sure that the OS/2 market presents Frame
with more opportunities than NEXTSTEP, for now at least. I am therefore
less optimistic about an Intel (or other) version of FrameMaker 3.x
or greater than I used to be...
Still doesn't mean you shouldn't beat up on them, though! :-)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org>
Subject: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep (Newbie Attack)
Message-ID: <1994Apr30.130441.549@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 13:04:41 GMT
Hi there,
Emacs 4.0 gave me a good reason and excuse to study Emacs. I have a few
question which I think are NS-Emacs related (as opposed to pure emacs). I
am problably wrong though ;)
1) When playing with the interface, I sometime saw a popup menu pop up (Duh
!). I don't know how I did it and don't know what it is. Is it related to
the X-Window Emacs popup X menus ? My book (Learning Gnu Emacs O'Reilly &
Assoc. Inc.) mentions the Control-Shift-Left Mouse Button to activate the
x-buffer-menu. It doesn't seem to work in NS (How does one press middle
button ? Do I have to activate or discativate the right button ?). Do
similar possibilities exist in NS Emacs ? For Buffer menus ? Other things ?
2) The press release mentions the possibility of "You don't just want to
browse the online documentation but also want to print it out in a pretty
form". How does one do that ?
I am sorry if those questions belong to comp.*.emacs but I think they are
NS related.
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am
sure, you realize, that what you heard is not what I meant.
From: haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to add non NeXT PS Fonts?
Message-ID: <21163@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 26 Apr 94 15:50:50 GMT
References: <2p61sk$hk@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> <2p8v5h$pe0@cerberus.wsc.com> <2p9f1j$is4@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
In article <2p61sk$hk@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu
(Glenn Brown) writes:
> "You are licensed to use the NeXT
> Software to output bitmaps generated by the PostScript interpreter"
> That means no Dots and no Gnu Ghostscript if your NeXT created the PS
> code you want to print. Harsh!
Surely this is wrong. The license for the Postscript interpreter that
comes with NeXTstep has restrictions on what devices you can sent its
output to -- expressed in terms of maximum allowable resolution (dpi).
But any Postscript code (i.e., source code) that you produce on your
NeXT belongs to you, whether you get it by sending the output of your
word processor to a file (i.e., <file>.ps), or you hack the code
yourself. You can do anything you want with that code, including sending
it to any non-Adobe Postscript-clone interpreter, such as PacificPage
printer cartridges in HP printers, or Gnu Ghostscript.
John
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep (Newbie Attack)
Date: 30 Apr 1994 12:35:30 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2ptjai$lio@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1994Apr30.130441.549@joker.fdn.org>
Ed@joker.fdn.org wrote...
>1) When playing with the interface, I sometime saw a popup menu pop up (Duh
>!). I don't know how I did it and don't know what it is. Is it related to
>the X-Window Emacs popup X menus ? My book (Learning Gnu Emacs O'Reilly &
>Assoc. Inc.) mentions the Control-Shift-Left Mouse Button to activate the
>x-buffer-menu. It doesn't seem to work in NS (How does one press middle
>button ? Do I have to activate or discativate the right button ?). Do
>similar possibilities exist in NS Emacs ? For Buffer menus ? Other things ?
Given the default bindings, C-down-mouse-1 (Control-Left Button)
brings up the buffer menu. C-down-mouse-2 (Control-Right Button)
brings up the help menu. There is no Button 3 (X right button), so
Button 2 is the equivalent of X middle button.
>2) The press release mentions the possibility of "You don't just want to
>browse the online documentation but also want to print it out in a pretty
>form". How does one do that ?
Hmm, this *is* a solely emacs question. It involves messing with
TeXinfo files, TeX, and a bunch of other stuff that I'm not too
familiar with. You need the source distribution of Emacs if you want
to do this, cause that's where the original TeXinfo files for the
documentation are. Someone else will have to reply with the exact
steps to generate hard copies of the docs.
Joe
P.S. Isn't it annoying to have to pay so much attention to
capitalization just to properly distinguish between Emacs NS and the
regular emacs?
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From: ayardley@qns1.qns.com (A.C. Yardley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] malloc_freezedry()? and HELP!
Date: 30 Apr 1994 08:58:46 -0500
Organization: Questar Network Services
Message-ID: <2pto6m$gh5@qns1.qns.com>
Q1: What is 'malloc_freezedry()' and what, exactly, does it do?
Q2: How does one 'grab' an executable process and open it in order
to read it? That is, I want to open an executable as if it were
a file (perhaps with an associated file descriptor) and, then,
read through the core image just as if it were a file.
Thanks in advance.
A.C.
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: (OOPS) .TIFF TO .BMP Conversion
Date: 30 Apr 1994 18:24:12 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2pu7oc$b54@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2ppj3r$g8e@umd5.umd.edu>
Keywords: who, what, why, when ,how, what for
In article <2ppj3r$g8e@umd5.umd.edu> sunil@linus.smcm.edu (Sunil Punnoose)
writes:
> Can anyone tell me if there is public domain version (or commercial
> version) of some utility that would convert TIFF files created on a NEXT
> to a PC .bmp or .pcx format?
>
> I have a lot of TIFF images that need to be converted ...
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
Yes. PixelMagician from Bacchus (info@bacchus.com). Superb app, about
$250. Supports 18-20 different graphics file formats, batch processing,
scaling and resizing, etc.
Steve Weintz
EthnoGraphics
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: [Q] malloc_freezedry()? and HELP!
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 15:37:31 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ohkfBvO00iV6A3K2Zc@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2pto6m$gh5@qns1.qns.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.programmer: 30-Apr-94 [Q]
malloc_freezedry()? and.. by A.C. Yardley@qns1.qns.co
> Q1: What is 'malloc_freezedry()' and what, exactly, does it do?
It is part of the internal implementation of the malloc() library, and
consequently is undocumented. I can't see any reason for you to need to
know what it is, since there is absolutely no reason why NeXT cannot
change the routine in their next release of the OS. What are you trying
to do?
> Q2: How does one 'grab' an executable process and open it in order
> to read it? That is, I want to open an executable as if it were
> a file (perhaps with an associated file descriptor) and, then,
> read through the core image just as if it were a file.
Read the Mach functions documentation in DL. Look for vm_read().
Also, you might consider looking through the gdb source if you are
really motivated. NeXT does not officially support ptrace, but that
might be what you are looking for.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Digital Librarian woes
Message-ID: <Cp39Io.7EK@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <Coz2Jo.3A9@cunews.carleton.ca> <Cp0sK5.F3@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 20:13:35 GMT
Juergen Sell (js@euler.hnv.icem.de) wrote:
: In article <Coz2Jo.3A9@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes:
: > Digital Librarian will not index the contents of RTF files that are
: > embedded inside RTFD documents.
: >
: Why not use MailSearch.app? No need to duplicate anything. works great on NeXTMail too. It's on the
: archives.
I want them to be indexed in advance, and in a more share-able form for
the whole office to use, than a mailbox.
I already use MailSearch.app for my own mail, and I love it...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: (OOPS) .TIFF TO .BMP Conversion
Message-ID: <Cp3ACD.8yH@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2ppj3r$g8e@umd5.umd.edu> <2pu7oc$b54@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 20:31:25 GMT
Steve Weintz (indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: In article <2ppj3r$g8e@umd5.umd.edu> sunil@linus.smcm.edu (Sunil Punnoose)
: writes:
: > Can anyone tell me if there is public domain version (or commercial
: > version) of some utility that would convert TIFF files created on a NEXT
: > to a PC .bmp or .pcx format?
: >
: > I have a lot of TIFF images that need to be converted ...
: Yes. PixelMagician from Bacchus (info@bacchus.com). Superb app, about
: $250. Supports 18-20 different graphics file formats, batch processing,
: scaling and resizing, etc.
I certainly agree on PixelMagician. Very powerful program.
Free programs include ImageAgent.app, and OmniImage.app, available from
ftp.omnigroup.com:/pub/software
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu (Christopher R. Douty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs for NS color problem
Date: 1 May 1994 05:35:34 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2pvf36$okr@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
References: <SHIVERS.94Apr27180217@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
Keywords: color emacs
In article <SHIVERS.94Apr27180217@lewis.lcs.mit.edu> shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin
Shivers) writes:
> There is a problem with Emacs for NS: the table that emacs uses
> to map the X color names (like "forest green" or "maroon") to
> NeXTSTEP color values is not right. The colors are way, way too
> light. "maroon" comes out light pink, and so forth on my Intel
> NS box. You can see this for yourself by making a symlink
I don't know what's up. I looked at the Emacs.clr list and most of it seemed
fine on my ND. Perhaps NeXT has done special things to make colors darker on
small colorspace boxes. With a real 24-bit display the colors looked OK. The
Emacs version of forest green looked just like the NeXT supplied Forest Green.
Maroon didn't look like "light pink."
Perhaps the color setting on your Intel machine are screwy. Anyone else have a
data point?
--
Christopher Douty
christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu | MIME and | "I ask you, which government
Christopher_Douty@hmc.edu | NeXTmail OK | is more threat to liberty,
----------------------------------------------+ the weak, severely limited
government of 1789, or the mega-state of today that takes 40 to 50 percent
of our income, has minions as numerous as the stars in the heavens and
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSI: OmniImageFilter for Intel??
Date: Sun, 1 May 94 01:43:03 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <pC8NMyf.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <1994Apr29.154023.776@news.lrz-muenchen.de> <2pt3s3$2rm@manta.omnigroup.com>
Does it include the ability to convert .cgm files?
Thanks,
Marty
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: (OOPS) .TIFF TO .BMP Conversion
Date: 1 May 1994 06:19:14 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2q0a8i$2sr@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2ppj3r$g8e@umd5.umd.edu> <2pu7oc$b54@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: who, what, why, when ,how, what for
Steve Weintz writes:
>In article <2ppj3r$g8e@umd5.umd.edu> sunil@linus.smcm.edu (Sunil Punnoose)
>writes:
>> Can anyone tell me if there is public domain version (or commercial
>> version) of some utility that would convert TIFF files created on a NEXT
>> to a PC .bmp or .pcx format?
>>
>> I have a lot of TIFF images that need to be converted ...
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks.
>Yes. PixelMagician from Bacchus (info@bacchus.com). Superb app, about
>$250. Supports 18-20 different graphics file formats, batch processing,
>scaling and resizing, etc.
OmniImage, in its soon-to-be-released incarnation, allows any-to-any
image type conversion, on about 30 different formats. It now works on Intels
as well (just compiled it fat this morning, after finally getting the
source to the underlying libraries).
OmniImage includes image filtering, a workspace inspector, and a nifty
previewing app.
When we tested it against Bacchus' filters a year ago, we found it faster.
And, it's totally FREE! FREE FREE FREE!
Just hold on a couple of days while we iron the nits out of this latest
version. (The current version on ftp.omnigroup.com isn't fat, and
doesn't support saving images in different formats.) We'll then post
it to cs.orst.edu and the others.
-Wil
PS: As an added bonus, this will make things easier for OmniWeb people
on Intels, as our single biggest complaint so far has been people having
From: ayardley@qns1.qns.com (A.C. Yardley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q]: Source code for gdb4.7 on NeXT
Date: 1 May 1994 10:33:16 -0500
Organization: Questar Network Services
Message-ID: <2q0i3s$dnv@qns1.qns.com>
Another question (but one I'm sure was answered sometime ago)? Does
anyone know where I can get the source code for gdb-4.7 on the NeXT.
I've ran archie on 'gdb' and come up with everything from gdb-3.2 to
gdb-4.12, but no gdb-4.7. Thanks in advance.
A.C.
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Seeking info on ISDN connectivity
Date: 1 May 1994 14:19:49 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2q0dq5$ol1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Apr18.172437.2133@afs.com> <BURNS.94Apr20175735@wildcat.bellcore.com> <2p5iip$m6@news.doit.wisc.edu>
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>In article <BURNS.94Apr20175735@wildcat.bellcore.com>,
>James E. Burns <burns@bellcore.com> wrote:
>>The Hayes Extender is essentially dead. It depends on the PhoneKit,
>>which as far as I know has never been picked up. In any case, it
>I thought it was picked up by Pencom, but then shelved.
>We have two of them, gathering dust. We were fairly pissed
>about it at the time.
>I'm using ISDN, incidentally on a cube, but it can be used
>on any ethernet using the right bridges or hubs, and with
>compression, speeds in the .5 Mbps range are possible. All
>it takes is money.
So, just to clarify - Jess, you aren't using the Hayes cheap-o box?
It's not supported anymore?
--
David Lemson
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Gianfranco Pocecai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NEXTSTEP & Transputers
Date: 1 May 1994 16:20:04 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q0krk$5ea@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Hi everybody!
I'm looking for any kind of information (software & hardware) to use
transputers with NEXTSTEP.
thanks
Gianfranco
--
Gianfranco Pocecai
President of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group
University of Milano - Computer Science Department
Via Comelico, 39/41
20135 Milano - Italy
E-mail : gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pinnacle Transfer -- Are they alive
Date: 1 May 1994 17:49:38 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2q0q3i$3va@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Apr19.001851.361@weston.com> <2p9hpd$mgr@transfer.stratus.com>
Try contacting Mark Henry at (519) 746-0380. They're alive and kicking,
just weathering changes like other NeXTSTEP ISV's...
(BTW, I have VirtSpace, PageChain and the Pinnacle Inspectors and heratily
endorse 'em)
Cheers,
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others
"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
From: bdnee@max.tiac.net (Charles Bandes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Artist has questions about NextStep
Date: 1 May 1994 21:02:10 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <2q15ci$jpt@sundog.tiac.net>
Hi - I'm searching for a new system - I've been using Amigas for
years, and am an avid fan of good multitasking, object-oriented
behavior and so forth. The NEXT OS is very appealing to me,
but I have some misgivings about the availability of software
and hardware for it.
I'm an artist, my primary uses for my computer is 24bit paint/image
manipulation, DTP, structured drawing...
I'll need a WP and terminal software too... that's about it.
If I were to buy a Pentium configured for NextSTEP, would I still
be able to use my HP-LJ3p printer, and my Epson 600c scanner?
On the software side, is Photoshop or Fractal Painter available for NS?
Are there any equivalent programs?
As far as SoftPC goes, it seems silly to emulate a PC on a PC, doesn't it?
How fast is SoftPC, and how compatible? Will games run through it?
I work for a PC game developer, it'd be awful nice to be able to run our
products at home... But I loathe windows/dos, won't buy a computer that
relies on them.
How is the PD realm for NS, is there a lot available? I've grown accustomed
to worlds of wonderful free/nearly free goodies for my Amiga Workbench...
Anyway, if someone could send me a software list, or something to that effect,
I'd really appreciate it.
How much SW comes bundled with NS? I remember the original Nexts had all
sorts of things built into their MO drives...
And is there educational pricing for NeXT?
Many thanks - Charley
please send email, i can't always read this group
bdnee@max.tiac.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom)
Subject: Re: (OOPS) .TIFF TO .BMP Conversion
Message-ID: <1994Apr30.181241.17570@bacchus.com>
Sender: eric@bacchus.com
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
References: <2ppj3r$g8e@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 18:12:41 GMT
In article <2ppj3r$g8e@umd5.umd.edu> sunil@linus.smcm.edu (Sunil Punnoose)
writes:
> Can anyone tell me if there is public domain version (or commercial
> version) of some utility that would convert TIFF files created on a NEXT
> to a PC .bmp or .pcx format?
>
> I have a lot of TIFF images that need to be converted ...
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sunil
>
> --
> Sunil Punnoose
> Ph: (703) 524 0045
> sunil@oyster.smcm.edu
>
Our commercial NEXTSTEP application, Pixel Magician, handles TIFF to BMP image
conversions and many others. For more information contact:
Mieke Erdtsieck
mieke@bacchus.com
310 820-9145
310 802-5930 ( fax )
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: [Q]: Source code for gdb4.7 on NeXT
Date: Sun, 1 May 1994 18:50:57 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Uhl39Fu00iUvM5Z7VM@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2q0i3s$dnv@qns1.qns.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.programmer: 1-May-94 [Q]: Source
code for gdb4.7.. by A.C. Yardley@qns1.qns.co
> Another question (but one I'm sure was answered sometime ago)? Does
> anyone know where I can get the source code for gdb-4.7 on the NeXT.
>
> I've ran archie on 'gdb' and come up with everything from gdb-3.2 to
> gdb-4.12, but no gdb-4.7. Thanks in advance.
Get the GNUSource package off of a NS 3.2 Developer CD (maybe 3.1 too, I
dunno), or get someone to NeXTmail you the package. I don't have it
conveniently available at the moment, or I would do so.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 2 May 1994 01:59:37 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU>
penrose@jesus.Princeton.EDU (Christopher Penrose) writes:
> In article <CEDMAN.94Apr27193721@capitalist.princeton.edu>
> > Now please, Mr Scott,
> > tell us exactly how many seconds did it take you to come to and
> > spew forth on the net these ill founded opinions of yours ?
>
> Don't mind Mr. Scott, it is rare that he shows us anything but
> products of his asshole.
>
> I thank you (and the others mentioned) for your work on this
> application, it will undoubtedly make my computing life easier.
Oh come now, let's not go totally spastic here. While Eric isn't
noted for being overwhelmingly polite, he has done a lot of things
for NeXTSTEP users. He has both written useful things, and helped
people out who had immediate problems with their NeXT's (both
adminstering and programming issues).
So has Carl of course, which is why it's so weird watching this
little exchange get so heated so quickly. I think it's great to
have the new emacs (and in a packaged format, so one can just
double-click to install it), though I don't know that I'll be
using it over Edit.app for everything. The fact that Carl &
helpers have done many users a service by putting together
Emacs doesn't mean that Eric's contributions deserve to be
overlooked.
This whole exchange is oh so weird... Could we go back to just
arguing over Emacs issues?
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 02 May 1994 09:40:18 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
To: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
In-reply-to: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu's message of 2 May 1994 01:59:37 GMT
>>>>> "Garance" == Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes:
Garance> This whole exchange is oh so weird... Could we go back to
Garance> just arguing over Emacs issues?
Yes let's do...
Let's ask.. for the sole function of writing programs ie. source code
when/why would you chose to use Edit over Emacs?
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs vs. Edit (was Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep)
Date: 2 May 1994 12:01:50 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q2q3e$s4c@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu> <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) wrote...
>>>>>> "Garance" == Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes:
>Garance> Could we go back to just arguing over Emacs issues?
>
>Let's ask.. for the sole function of writing programs ie. source code
>when/why would you chose to use Edit over Emacs?
Good question. Personally, I wouldn't chose Edit. I can probably
count on one hand the number of times I've actually used Edit for
editing non-RTF files. IMHO, the only good reason for using Edit is
for RTF(D) documents. I don't use many of the most advanced NS data
features such as links, so I don't mind if Emacs NS doesn't completely
support them.
If you want to use NeXT's latest greatest invention of Rich-Source,
then you'll want Edit. Otherwise, I'll be sticking with Emacs, thank
you very much :-)
Joe
P.S. Oh, goody! We've started a religious war!
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From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Eric's gone completely wiggy!
Date: 02 May 1994 13:19:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MARCUS.94May2061933@tdb.ee.pdx.edu>
eps rants (in comp.sys.next.programmer):
In article <1994Apr30.134843.7768@vnp.com> rvs@vnp.com
(Ronald V. Simmons) writes:
>>Edit can't correctly auto-indent code (and Makefiles) both as I type
>> and later.
>Works fine for me.
Consider Barry Warsaw's new cc-mode. Each significant syntactic element
in C++ can have its own elisp function. For people who maintan code
which uses unusal but strict stylistic conventions, this can be _very_
useful. Of course, it does other neat things too, like let you
skip over preprocessor conditionals, etc.
>>Edit can't auto-colorize code (and Makefiles) as I type and later.
>Colorized source? Ick!
This is actually fairly useful. For TeX-like syntax especially. For LISP
it is perhaps less important. For C code that has lots of conditionalized
preprocessor commands, seeing the structure helps.
>>Edit can rtf-ize code, but I maintain that it is much better to have the
>> editor parse the code, then colorize and fontize dynamically and
>> consistently rather than have the programmer go through the tedium of
>> doing it by hand.
>RTF code is EVIL. If I feel the need to see Stupid Font Tricks,
>I can run stuff through vgrind.
vgrind, how quaint.
>>Edit doesn't show me expression boundaries automatically as I type.
>It's nondistracting. You can always double-click to verify
>something questionable.
You don't have to have it this way, unlike Edit.
>>I much prefer Emacs' way of cooperating with gdb
>> (i.e. the editor runs gdb rather than the other way around).
>I prefer writing bug-free code and avoiding gdb altogther.
Yes. Of course.
>>Edit can't transparently use ftp rather than the file system (i.e. you
>> need to get someone else's program and then drag 'n' drop rather than
>> have it "just work" a la ange-ftp.
>With RBrowser, you just double-click on a remote text document,
>and it opens in Edit (or whatever). When you save the file, it's
>automagically written back across the network.
Again, nothing precludes one from implementing this approach in Emacs.
>>Edit won't let me write keyboard macros.
>Edit provides the Expansion Dictionary, User Commands, and User
>Pipes. Also, you can override the default keyboard shortcuts.
>>Edit is not extensible by the user.
>You can do an awful lot with .commanddict
Yes, yes. How quaint.
>>Edit doesn't have a third-party community out there always making new
>> stuff available.
>No "patch-of-the-week club" to drive you batty.
So one doesn't upgrade unless they have a problem, then.
Unlike NeXT's every-two-years minor release approach. Pleeaaase!
>>Edit relies way too much on the mouse for tasks that can be done more
>> quickly if your hands stay firmly on the keyboard. (Try recursive
>> searching forward and backward in Emacs and in Edit. If you know what
>> you are doing, you'll be much faster in Emacs.
>Emacs: Control-s/Control-r
>Edit: Command-g/Command-d
>What's the difference?
The difference is that it is incremental. That, perhaps, is a matter of
taste. More important is that you can programmatically do recursive
searches (like one does when enhancing cc-mode, for instance).
Try that with Edit.
>>Emacs4.0 works with PB.
>>Emacs4.0 works with gdb (just not the way your accustomed to).
>>Emacs4.0 works with WSM.
>So?
So, Emacs is portable. You can have the same environment on most any
platform.
>>Furthermore,
>>
>>Edit doesn't have its own newsgroup hierarchy. :^)
>Thank ghod.
???
>>Edit can't play gomoku with me or run the tower of hanoi. :^)
>Wanna bet?
In a buffer?
Better example: M-x doctor. This actually might be helpful, Eric. :-)
Marcus Daniels
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Tool to cut snippets from a tif file
Message-ID: <1994May2.130118.3532@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <2psagl$5pf@nkosi.well.com>
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 13:01:18 GMT
kenw@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth A. Worthy) writes:
>Is there any graphics tool running on NeXTStep that will cut snippets from a
>.tif file?
>I.e., I want to cut out part of a .tif image and then paste it into a Draw
>or WriteNow document.
>Ken Worthy
A very rough method is to display the TIFF with Preview and then
with Grap pick up part of the screen. It works, and everybode has
the tools for it.
Willem
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From: roshandel@fokus.gmd.de (Mehrdad Roshandel)
Subject: lookong for work flow control application
Message-ID: <1994May2.140141.22467@fokus.gmd.de>
Keywords: workFlow
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 14:01:41 GMT
Does anybody have or know a work flow application?
please send me the information via E-mail:
Mehrdad roshandel.
===================================================================
Mehrdad Roshandel,
GMD Fokus
Hardenbergplatz 2
10623 Berlin Phone: +49 30 254 99 230
Germany FAX: +49 30 254 99 116
E-mail (X.400 prefered): roshandel@fokus.berlin.gmd.d400.de
smtp: mrd@fokus.gmd.de
==========================================================================
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MATLAB for the NeXT?
Date: 2 May 1994 14:06:09 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <2q31ch$f2f@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
References: <2peidc$fqu@news.u.washington.edu>
In article <2peidc$fqu@news.u.washington.edu> mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark
Cutler) writes:
> Does anyone know if there is an implementation of MATLAB which will run
> under NeXTSTEP? If so, who is the appropriate contact?
>
> Thanks for the help!
Currently you have three options to run "MATLAB" on a NeXT:
1) Run remotely using X-Windows
2) Use Octave (a MATLAB "clone" available for many platforms)
3) Use RLaB (a MATLAB-like environment also available w/ source)
Octave and RLaB are now apparently fairly robust (based upon an evaluation of a
colleague who was using the two on his NeXTstation and who has just left to
spend the Summer on the West coast) and are free. The disadvantage is they are
command-line oriented and plotting via SciPlot or GNUplot isn't as nice as
MATLAB 4.0. You also don't have a product like Simulink available as a
graphical programming environment.
The MathWorks is rumored to be working on a NeXTSTEP port of MATLAB -- which
presumably is a result of the Sun-NeXT deal. I haven't heard any time frames
and they are not yet even to the beta-testing stage.
Mark.
--
Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: panzitta@esunix.sim.ES.COM (Mike Panzitta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Socks clients available?
Date: 2 May 1994 08:58:31 -0600
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Message-ID: <2q34en$gm8@esunix.sim.ES.COM>
I guess the subject says it all...I'm looking for a version of socks that
can be built on 3.2 (black). In particular, I am looking for the telnet
and ftp clients which use socks.
For those who don't know, socks is a protocol for a proxy server and
clients (ftp, telnet, finger, whois, etc.). I am accessing the Internet
thru a firewall machine, so I have to use proxies. An alternative would
be something like Sun's itelnet and iftp, which use proxies.
Please respond if you have built these on 3.2 or know where I can get
sources and/or binaries that can be used under 3.2. Also, does anyone
know if Mosaic and some of the other Internet tools can be configured
to use socks or other proxies?
Thanks in advance,
-Mike
--
Mike Panzitta
Doberman Systems
mike@doberman.com (NeXTMail)
From: cooncat@mingus (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: co-Xist 3.0 error:
Date: 2 May 1994 17:37:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2q3dol$luh@agate.berkeley.edu>
Yesterday co-Xist worked just fine. Today when I launch it I got a "Fatal
server error" panel claiming the app "could not open default font 'fixed'".
Somehow, somewhere, a file got messed up--my .xinitrc is fine, I believe.
All I did was install Mosaic-NeXT2.4a, but I don't think this problem is
related to that.
The machine is a NeXT 040 cube running System 3.0.
Please respond to: cooncat@gershwin.mills.edu, as I'm sure this is a silly
question. =) Thanks!
--
************************************
Jessica L Mosher
Mills College
NeXTmail and email: cooncat@gershwin.mills.edu
"Life is what happens to you while
you're busy making other plans."
-John Lennon
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
O+ O+
From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark Thomsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tool to cut snippets from a tif file
Date: 2 May 1994 19:58:41 GMT
Organization: TRW Systems Development Division
Message-ID: <2q3m1h$pns@deneva.sdd.trw.com>
References: <2psagl$5pf@nkosi.well.com>
Kenneth A. Worthy writes
> Is there any graphics tool running on NeXTStep that will cut snippets from a
> ..tif file?
If I may, our Emerald Image Tool V1.0 does this very well, among its other
image manipulations. For info send email to info@gemstone.com.
Mark R. Thomsen
Gemstone Systems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mpman@shamu.micro.umn.edu (milam paraschou)
Subject: background program for NeXT?
Message-ID: <Cp6z0z.9Lp@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 20:16:17 GMT
I was just wondering if there is a program for the NeXT Mach system that puts a gif or jpeg on the background screen.
Thanks,
mpman@mermaid.micro.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Socks clients available?
Message-ID: <Cp71C9.D37@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
References: <2q34en$gm8@esunix.sim.ES.COM>
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 21:07:21 GMT
In article <2q34en$gm8@esunix.sim.ES.COM> panzitta@esunix.sim.ES.COM (Mike
Panzitta) writes:
> For those who don't know, socks is a protocol for a proxy server and
> clients (ftp, telnet, finger, whois, etc.). I am accessing the Internet
> thru a firewall machine, so I have to use proxies. An alternative would
> be something like Sun's itelnet and iftp, which use proxies.
Coo, this sounds dead clever. We have some code that can be used for this, but
its on a per-protocol basis, it isn't really standardised, and we use it for
testing some of our software that uses UDP through our firewall out to other
customers.
If you get anywhere with this, then please post.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul R. Tognato-Haddad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Faxing with Supra (for free)?
Date: 3 May 1994 00:10:07 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q44ov$nvi@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Howdy,
I'm trying to figure out how to fax with my SupraFax modem, without paying a bundle of money. Yes I know about N
XFax but faxing isn't worth >$100 to me so I need a way to send/receive faxes that doesn't cost anything.
I've tried Winfax (with SoftPC 3.0 moto), and a few other windows fax programs but none have worked. So does any one have a solution to my problem?
Any solution no matter how weird is okay, as long as it doesn't cost anything.
Thanx in advance,
--
Paul (NeXTmail preferred)
# Paul R. Tognato-Haddad
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Too many niceties !!
Date: 2 May 1994 19:42:05 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9405030042.AA14309@alleg.EDU>
Ok, have been meaning to ask you all about this for a long time.... I
hope someone can come up with an idea....
See, I'm an information freak... I want to know whatever I can when I
am on the system.... so here's what happens.
I am running ConsoleTool to keep track of the console....
.... MailCall to keep track of incoming Mail...
........PrintManager to keep track of printer jobs...
............and WhosOnFirst to keep track of remote logins....
(if I am really on a roll, I might even run KPerf or CommandMon)
Now I don't need to constantly see all of these, so mostly they stay
hidden. All of them but PrintManager let me know when something
changes, so they can stay hidden.
Now excuse me for oversimplifying things because I don't know any
better, but would it be possible to create some type of module for
applets like these? I am thinking of something probably like
BackSpace where you can create a new monitor and drop it into what
already exists. It could be separated into different windows that
would be selected by a pull-down menu (which probably isn't the right
name for what I am thinking of....) When the status of one changes,
it is unhidden with that window selected, so you can see what
changed. Maybe even a different sound associated with each one,
which could be turned off if necessary....
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to replace these things... I'd just
like to see them work better together, and only take up _one_ dock
space rather than 3 or 4....
I realize I'm kinda dreaming here, but I thought someone out there
who has more knowledge than me might be interested in a challenge...
Heck, forget the module part, I'd be interested in something that
could just keep track of the things I mentioned above (mail, console,
new logins, and printer queues)
Thanks for listening to my thoughts, given without any comprehension
of their chances of being achieved....
TjL
---
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Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.1 Motorola
MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO
No Root access, no super-user access
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Too many niceties !!
Message-ID: <Cp7KpC.Kro@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <9405030042.AA14309@alleg.EDU>
Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 04:05:35 GMT
Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@alleg.EDU) wrote:
: Now excuse me for oversimplifying things because I don't know any
: better, but would it be possible to create some type of module for
: applets like these? I am thinking of something probably like
: BackSpace where you can create a new monitor and drop it into what
: already exists. It could be separated into different windows that
: would be selected by a pull-down menu (which probably isn't the right
: name for what I am thinking of....) When the status of one changes,
: it is unhidden with that window selected, so you can see what
: changed. Maybe even a different sound associated with each one,
: which could be turned off if necessary....
: I realize I'm kinda dreaming here, but I thought someone out there
: who has more knowledge than me might be interested in a challenge...
: Heck, forget the module part, I'd be interested in something that
: could just keep track of the things I mentioned above (mail, console,
: new logins, and printer queues)
Well, you're not dreaming.
Take a look at GTools (available from ftp.cs.orst.edu) that came out a
week or so ago...
I haven't seen the API yet, but it looks to be exactly what you're
talking about. There aren't too many modules yet, but I think there will
be, with sufficient interest. Certainly, many of the little system
monitor apps could be incorporated.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Message-ID: <1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu> <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 14:13:33 GMT
In article <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>>>>>> "Garance" == Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes:
>Garance> This whole exchange is oh so weird... Could we go back to
>Garance> just arguing over Emacs issues?
>
>Yes let's do...
>
>Let's ask.. for the sole function of writing programs ie. source code
>when/why would you chose to use Edit over Emacs?
I'm choosing to continue with Edit 'cos I can't be bothered spending the
time to learn Emacs.
Lazily,
Dave Griffiths
From: larryd1648@aol.com (LarryD1648)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: News Reader
Date: 3 May 1994 00:54:07 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <2q4ldf$j9l@search01.news.aol.com>
I am looking for a news reader for NeXTStep for Intel.
Thank You in advance.
From: andrewd@sematech.tamu.edu (Andrew Duchowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help w/ printing landscape .eps files
Date: 3 May 1994 06:22:38 GMT
Organization: Sematech Research, Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2q4qje$6qa@news.tamu.edu>
My wife just bought a 486. I have a presentation coming up so we bought
PowerPoint for the PC. Great slides. Now if only I could print them.
I configured a ps printer on the 486 to print to c:\lpout.eps, in
landscape, since that's how the slides are set up (I know I could
change them to portrait, but I don't want to). I then copied the
slides file to disk, brought it over to the next.
Problem1: Preview complained about the .eps file. File showed up
but in portrait, right slide cut off (handouts w/2 slides per sheet).
The Format->PageLayout option is inaccessible.
Solution1(sort of): Found out that the .eps file had ^M's at each
EOL. Ok, took care of that, Previewer stopped complaining, iterated
through all the pages, Format->PageLayout now accessible.
Ok, so like a naive user I select PageLayout->Landscape->OK. Nothing
happens, no complaints, but the Preview window doesn't adjust. Figured
no prob, the printer'll be smart enough. Not quite. It prints in
landscape, but only the last page, and it chops that in half so
that I get one page with the page number, the ohter page with the slide.
As it happens, I have an odd number of slides, so the last page only
has 1 slide on it, so I can't even tell whether the thing would print
ok if I had 2 slides on a page.
Has anybody successfully gotten anything to print in landscape via
above method? The .eps header reads PostScript 3.0, is this too advanced
for the PostScript-based $@^@#$%@ NeXT? I'm running NS3.0, btw.
Is there a better,newer Previewer out there?
Alternatively, is it possible to hook up the NeXT printer as the default
printer for the 486 via some fancy cable? (Even ethernet?) This I
expect is too complicated right now, so I'd really appreciate a solution
to the first question first.
Thank you!
Andrew
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From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP & Transputers
Message-ID: <Cp7K6y.DvE@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <2q0krk$5ea@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 03:54:33 GMT
In article <2q0krk$5ea@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Gianfranco Pocecai) writes:
> Hi everybody!
> I'm looking for any kind of information (software & hardware) to use
> transputers with NEXTSTEP.
>
> thanks
>
> Gianfranco
>
> --
> Gianfranco Pocecai
> President of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group
> University of Milano - Computer Science Department
> Via Comelico, 39/41
> 20135 Milano - Italy
> E-mail : gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
Somebody wrote a driver to use a transputer w/ NS/I. I think it may be on
cs.orst.edu. Anybody save the announcement ?
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
--
-Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Century Schoolbook font
Message-ID: <1994May1.235249.25832@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <Cp19w2.Fs9@ncifcrf.gov>
Date: Sun, 1 May 1994 23:52:49 GMT
In article <Cp19w2.Fs9@ncifcrf.gov> kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman) writes:
* Does anyone know where I can obtain this font? It seems
* to be a rather popular font on the PC, the extent that it
* is the standard font used in my lab. Any info would be
* appreciated.
There are several fonts in the Adobe Type Library with the Century name:
o Century Expanded
o Century Old Style
o ITC Century
o ITC Century Condensed
o New Century Schoolbook
Of all the Century variations, New Century Schoolbook appears to
be the most popular version and is one of the fonts found in most
laser printers.
We [Trilithon Software] are an authorised re-seller of Adobe fonts
and we specialise in supplying fonts to the NEXTSTEP marketplace.
We ship fonts in NEXTSTEP format with an installer/downloader
utility.
Write To: Trilithon Software,
3000 Alpine Road,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 851-7901
FAX: (415) 851-7902
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: roshandel@fokus.gmd.de (Mehrdad Roshandel)
Subject: Boss Logic Inc.
Message-ID: <1994May3.102117.28432@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 10:21:17 GMT
Does anybody know what happend to the Boss Logic Inc.?
I need a software from this firm but i can't find them.
Does anybody knows the connection?
=========================================================================
Mehrdad Roshandel,
GMD Fokus
Hardenbergplatz 2
10623 Berlin Phone: +49 30 254 99 230
Germany FAX: +49 30 254 99 116
E-mail (X.400 prefered): roshandel@fokus.berlin.gmd.d400.de
smtp: mrd@fokus.gmd.de
=========================================================================
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOOM over the Net?
Date: 3 May 1994 09:09:12 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices)
Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q5ido$798@shiva.UU.NET>
Anyone with a Net connection want to play DOOM over it? I'm game! Just send me
some mail and we can set up a game...
---
Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net dokk@ita.org
Technical Support uunet!mickey
If we're not up by [insert date], I'm gonna have a severe case of the ass!
- Overheard from a customer
From: ed@sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How can I use all the fonts n my HP-postscript printer.
Date: 3 May 1994 13:11:28 GMT
Organization: Sogn og Fjordane Ingeniorhogskole
Message-ID: <2q5ii0$ors@due.uninett.no>
I print my ps-files on a HP-laserjet iii printer that has an adobe
plus pack postscript cartridge. This cartridge gives the printer a
lot of fonts that I don't have on the NeXT. Is there a way that
I can use those fonts?
Thanks in advance
Eystein Dugstad, SFIH, Norway
From: andrewd@sematech.tamu.edu (Andrew Duchowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help w/ printing landscape .eps files
Date: 3 May 1994 13:37:17 GMT
Organization: Sematech Research, Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2q5k2d$kkq@news.tamu.edu>
References: <2q4qje$6qa@news.tamu.edu> <2q5ddj$4k3@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
In article <2q5ddj$4k3@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
S.R. Samani <srs1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>In article <2q4qje$6qa@news.tamu.edu>,
>andrewd@sematech.tamu.edu (Andrew Duchowski) writes:
> [..my problem description..]
>
>Someone metioned to me that it had to do with .eps, which are *Encapsulated*
>PostScript. The idea behind *Encapsulated* is that it is device independant.
>This means it doesn't know whether or not the device you print/display on can
>do landscape, or how.
As far as I understood, eps just includes a bounding box. I don't think eps
is any more or less device independent than ps. I believe .eps is
a superset of .ps, and the NeXT being such a postscript-based machine should
be able to handle .eps files. Maybe NS3.1 (what's the latest, btw, NS3.2?)
is smarter? Anyway, I could be wrong on any of the above. If anyone has an
authoratative answer, feel free...
>
>The way I solved the problem was to use just PostScript files (.ps), rather
>than .eps files. I was using PageMaker 5.0 for Windows, and that gave me the
>option of what type of PS file I wanted to use. I don't know if PowerPoint
>has that ability.
I'm rather new to DOS/Windows/the PC world myself, so I don't know. I've
played with the PrintManager, and the only vanilla flavoured printer that
would actually print to a file than down the LPT1 spout was a PostScript
Printer (which is what I wanted), but then PrintManager insisted on
spitting out an .eps file. I didn't see a way for it to print a plain
.ps file. Regarding the application (powerpoint in this case) I don't
think it has much say in the matter. It's the driver's job to take data
and convert it to the appropriate language (.eps in this case). But
I could be wrong here too...
>I think if you set your printer to PostScript and change the connection to
>FILE: it produces a .ps file. This you can then print (using DOS, yeuch!) by :
>
> copy filename lpt1 /b
>
>the /b ensure that it takes it as PS code rather than just rpinting out the
>text of the PS code.
Hmm, I didn't know I could change the connection to FILE. I'll try that,
thanks!
Any other suggestions on this, please post or email...
Thank you!
Andrew
--
-- Andrew Duchowski | Nothing unreal exists. --
-- | --
-- Texas A&M University | -- Kiri-Kin-Tha's first law --
-- andrewd@cs.tamu.edu (NeXTmail ok) | of metaphysics --
From: srs1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk (S.R. Samani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help w/ printing landscape .eps files
Date: 3 May 1994 11:43:47 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2q5ddj$4k3@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
References: <2q4qje$6qa@news.tamu.edu>
In article <2q4qje$6qa@news.tamu.edu>, andrewd@sematech.tamu.edu (Andrew Duchowski) writes:
|> My wife just bought a 486. I have a presentation coming up so we bought
|> PowerPoint for the PC. Great slides. Now if only I could print them.
|>
|> I configured a ps printer on the 486 to print to c:\lpout.eps, in
|> landscape, since that's how the slides are set up (I know I could
|> change them to portrait, but I don't want to). I then copied the
|> slides file to disk, brought it over to the next.
|>
|> Problem1: Preview complained about the .eps file. File showed up
|> but in portrait, right slide cut off (handouts w/2 slides per sheet).
|> The Format->PageLayout option is inaccessible.
|> Solution1(sort of): Found out that the .eps file had ^M's at each
|> EOL. Ok, took care of that, Previewer stopped complaining, iterated
|> through all the pages, Format->PageLayout now accessible.
|>
|> Ok, so like a naive user I select PageLayout->Landscape->OK. Nothing
|> happens, no complaints, but the Preview window doesn't adjust. Figured
|> no prob, the printer'll be smart enough. Not quite. It prints in
|> landscape, but only the last page, and it chops that in half so
|> that I get one page with the page number, the ohter page with the slide.
|> As it happens, I have an odd number of slides, so the last page only
|> has 1 slide on it, so I can't even tell whether the thing would print
|> ok if I had 2 slides on a page.
I may be completely wrong on this one, but I've also had similar problems with
.eps files in the past, and nothing to do with NeXT. They came out portrait when
I wanted Landscape.
Someone metioned to me that it had to do with .eps, which are *Encapsulated*
PostScript. The idea behind *Encapsulated* is that it is device independant.
This means it doesn't know whether or not the device you print/display on can do
landscape, or how.
The way I solved the problem was to use just PostScript files (.ps), rather than
.eps files. I was using PageMaker 5.0 for Windows, and that gave me the option
of what type of PS file I wanted to use. I don't know if PowerPoint has that
ability.
I think if you set your printer to PostScript and change the connection to FILE:
it produces a .ps file. This you can then print (using DOS, yeuch!) by :
copy filename lpt1 /b
the /b ensure that it takes it as PS code rather than just rpinting out the text
of the PS code.
I hope that can be of some help.
Sanj.
From: kransst@ac.com (Steve Krans - CTG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgrazer over SLIP?
Date: 2 May 1994 21:19:01 GMT
Organization: Andersen Consulting - Minneapolis
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q3qo5$rso@nsmmfs07.ac.com>
In the near future I will be running NeXTStep and I would like to use
Newsgrazer for reading/replying to usenet news. I have a slip connection to
the net, and I was wondering if there is slip software available to handle
the modem dialing and negotiate the slip server on the other end? Right now
I use MacSLIP/Interslip on the mac for this functionality. And will Newsgrazer
work with this type of connection?
Steve
Steve.Krans@ac.com
From: Solbach@TU-Harburg.d400.De (Ludger Solbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Diagram1 palettes
Date: 3 May 1994 15:00:56 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q5ov8$eol@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
My apologies, if this is a dumb question but I was unable to
load palettes from Diagram1 in Diagram2. Is this possible at
all and if so, how?
Regards,
Ludger.
From: phowell@beast.gly.uky.edu (Paul Howell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer / Readers for NeXTstep/Intel
Date: 3 May 1994 16:18:24 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Message-ID: <2q5tgg$rdm@s.ms.uky.edu>
References: <2pommn$ao@hydra.cs.hope.edu>
In article <2pommn$ao@hydra.cs.hope.edu> jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike
Jipping) writes:
> I'm looking for a newsreader (NNTP client) that works on NeXTstep/Intel.
> We have a few machines like that and want to read news from them!
> I see references to NewsGrazer for NeXTstep on a NeXT machine...so I
> wonder if it's done for Intel.
>
> Mike Jipping
> Hope College Department of Computer Science
It's out there in netland. ftp to cs.orst.edu and go:
cd /pub/next/binaries/news
the file to get is: NewsGrazer75.tar.Z
for both intel and motorola.
- Paul
From: csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for opinions on Create v2...
Date: 3 May 1994 12:54:39 GMT
Organization: Parallel and Signal Processing Applications Group, University of York, UK.
Message-ID: <2q5hif$rf4@castle.york.ac.uk>
Summary: Opinions on create sought
Keywords: Stone Design Create
Hi,
Has anyone used Stone Design's Create graphics package? We're
considering this for use with both black and white hardware under 3.0
and 3.2 respectively, and I'm interested in hearing your opinions on
this package. In particular, how bug free is it? I don't want to
purchase another AppSoft draw standard program...
Thanks in advance,
Colin
--
Colin Perkins
Parallel and Signal Processing Applications Group, Email: csp@ohm.york.ac.uk
Department of Electronics, University of York, UK. Phone: (+44) 904 432379
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 3 May 1994 14:46:29 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2q6665$r65@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online
NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Much of this information is also available using the World Wide Web,
<http://digifix.digifix.com/index.html>
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep WWW Information Server online
---------------------------------------------------------
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving
the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon
as they become available.
NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online
---------------------------------------------------------
The NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is now available
for product literature and pricing from NEXTSTEP developers.
You can get information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Faxing with Supra (for free)?
Message-ID: <Cp8KwG.IE@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <2q44ov$nvi@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 17:07:27 GMT
Try NXFax in demo-mode for outgoing faxing (single page only?).
use am for incoming - maybe you have to alter it, it is designed for Zyxels as far as I Know,
but that most prbably appeals to support voice-detection answering-machine functionality.
Both are on the archives.
Juergen
---
Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok )
Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new generation of soap powder ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: background program for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994May3.174031.5128@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <Cp6z0z.9Lp@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 17:40:31 GMT
In article <Cp6z0z.9Lp@news.cis.umn.edu> mpman@shamu.micro.umn.edu (milam
paraschou) writes:
> I was just wondering if there is a program for the NeXT Mach system that
puts a gif or jpeg on the background screen.
Backspace (bundled); or MetroTools (commercial). There are some free wall
paper programs around, as well.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for opinions on Create v2...
Date: 03 May 1994 20:52:43 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May3215243@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2q5hif$rf4@castle.york.ac.uk>
To: csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin Perkins)
In-reply-to: csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk's message of 3 May 1994 12:54:39 GMT
No I've not used it but I've heard the authors a really cool guy :-)
Stone Design is not another AppSoft.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Subject: AppSoft Draw and Write for Intel
Message-ID: <1994May3.220220.16044@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: AppSoft Draw,Write,Intel
Sender: news@hydra.acs.ttu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Texas Tech University
Date: Tue, 3 May 94 22:02:20 GMT
Does anybody know how/where I can either buy a copy of AppSoft Draw and
Write for Intel NEXTSTEP, or convert/extend my license for the software
from NEXTSTEP m86. The white hardware demo of Draw works fine, except I
have to continually put my black hardware codes in in order to save my
work, which are then deleted when the app closes. If not can anyone
recommend comparable packages (price and function). Thanks for any
tidbits.
alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Diagram1 palettes
Message-ID: <1994May3.191427.5495@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2q5ov8$eol@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 19:14:27 GMT
In article <2q5ov8$eol@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
Solbach@TU-Harburg.d400.De (Ludger Solbach) writes:
> My apologies, if this is a dumb question but I was unable to
> load palettes from Diagram1 in Diagram2. Is this possible at
> all and if so, how?
Yes. You need to set up a service for it, though. Inside the Diagram app
wrapper you should have a services file, containing:
Filter: diagram1ToDtext
Port: LTDGD1DTEXT
Send Type: NXFilenamePboardType:diagram
Return Type: NXFilenamePboardType:diagram2
Executable: diagramDtext
Timeout: 10000000
Filter: diagram1ToDtext
Port: LTDGD1DTEXT
Send Type: NXFilenamePboardType:dpalette
Return Type: NXFilenamePboardType:dpalette2
Executable: diagramDtext
Timeout: 10000000
(as well as some other stuff)
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: How can I use all the fonts n my HP-postscript printer.
Message-ID: <1994May3.192049.5590@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2q5ii0$ors@due.uninett.no>
Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 19:20:49 GMT
In article <2q5ii0$ors@due.uninett.no> ed@sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
writes:
> I print my ps-files on a HP-laserjet iii printer that has an adobe
> plus pack postscript cartridge. This cartridge gives the printer a
> lot of fonts that I don't have on the NeXT. Is there a way that
> I can use those fonts?
You need to buy an upgrade pack that contains 'the basic 35' fonts. Adobe
used to sell something called the Plus pack, but that has been
discontinued. The current offereing to match it is called something like
the Value pack. Check with Henry McGilton at trilithon.com, his company
sells them.
Paul
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P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Too many niceties !!
Date: 03 May 1994 23:07:47 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
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To: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
In-reply-to: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu's message of 3 May 1994 20:51:26 GMT
I can see a plug coming for MetroTools any minute from now.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Too many niceties !!
Date: 3 May 1994 20:51:26 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes:
> See, I'm an information freak... I want to know whatever I can when I
> am on the system.... so here's what happens.
>
> I am running ConsoleTool to keep track of the console....
> .... MailCall to keep track of incoming Mail...
> ........PrintManager to keep track of printer jobs...
> ............and WhosOnFirst to keep track of remote logins....
>
> (if I am really on a roll, I might even run KPerf or CommandMon)
>
> Now I don't need to constantly see all of these, so mostly they stay
> hidden. All of them but PrintManager let me know when something
> changes, so they can stay hidden.
>
> Now excuse me for oversimplifying things because I don't know any
> better, but would it be possible to create some type of module for
> applets like these? I am thinking of something probably like
> BackSpace where you can create a new monitor and drop it into what
> already exists. It could be separated into different windows that
> would be selected by a pull-down menu (which probably isn't the right
> name for what I am thinking of....) When the status of one changes,
> it is unhidden with that window selected, so you can see what
> changed. Maybe even a different sound associated with each one,
> which could be turned off if necessary....
>
> Don't get me wrong, I don't want to replace these things... I'd just
> like to see them work better together, and only take up _one_ dock
> space rather than 3 or 4....
Well, as the guy who took over MailCall and KperfMon (and duplicate that
to give me "KPerfCpu"), and who has an alternate version of CommandMon
(not released):
yeah, all these goodies can make things a bit
For the dock-space issue, I bought Engage, and I have a level of
applications that are always started up when I log in. Still, it
probably would be nice to combine these into one application which
had multiple modules. I have a few other programming projects that
I'm busy on (when I can find the time), but it's an interesting
idea to keep in mind.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jermar@watserv.ucr.edu (Jeremy Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with ImageViewer!?
Date: 4 May 1994 02:51:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2q72j6$50p@galaxy.ucr.edu>
I have recently been having a problem viewing jpegs on the NeXT system
sometimes (and I mean that I can view a jpeg at one point, and then a few
minutes later I can't open the same file). I get an error message that
tells me that there was a random error in the jpeg decoding process. The
files themselves are not bad, because I have taken them and viewed them
on other computers; only on the NeXT do I have this recurrent problem.
Is it possible that there is a problem when the private/tmp directory is
full? I never have any problem viewing GIF files on ImageViewer, I might add.
I would appreciate comments and solutions, if possible. I apologize if the
problem has already been discussed to death.
--
Jeremy Martin (jermar@watserv.ucr.edu)
University of California at Riverside (1st yr physics major)
"Glorify the Lord with me; let us exalt his name together."-- Psalm 34:3
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Message-ID: <1994May4.030843.11870@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Wed, 4 May 94 03:08:43 GMT
In article <1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>,
Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm choosing to continue with Edit 'cos I can't be bothered spending the
> time to learn Emacs.
>
> Lazily,
>
> Dave Griffiths
I agree, although I don't think I'm necessarily lazy. I downloaded
Emacs 4.0, and thought it was really cool. I'm impressed. However,
after a couple of hours configuring things and flipping pages in
the manual, I'd had enough. For the relatively uninitiated, the
learning curve is daunting. Not on the keystrokes, per se, but on
customizing emacs using elisp. I don't want to have to learn a
language to use emacs. The NS specific docs are lacking as well
(time constraints I assume). I grew tired of guessing.
Like, for example, how do I get gdb and emacs to communicate like
Edit with Terminal? How do setup I faces (whatever those are) to
highlight certain things with different colors or fonts? I'd like
something akin to the editors in MS Visual C++ or Borland C++ 4.0
-- colored reserved words, italicized comments, etc. How do I change
the highlight color for text selection from light gray to something
else? I'm sure if I read everything going over the Net about 4.0
I could piece this all together, but I don't have that kinda time.
What I'd really like is an editor that would make full use of the OO
environment to do really cool things. Things like colorized reserved
words, different fonts, non-white background, etc. would, of course,
be nice. The editor would save to plain ASCII just like emacs, i.e.
the formatting would be done on the fly by the editor. Maybe have a
class browser for each project (something like Methodist, but much
more complete). Have each method in the class browser be movable, so
when you drag it, the complete source for the method moves to where
you place it in the list. Split views for multiple views of each
source file are a must. How 'bout a shelf for those most frequently
edited methods. With the MiscKit, MOKit, and IconKit, who knows, maybe
I'll give it a shot myself... Programmatically, you could make each
line an object and open a world of possibilities.
I appreciate the effort that went into to Emacs 4.0, but ProjectBuilder,
Edit, Stuart, and Methodist are a pretty productive combination
from my perspective. To switch, I want something with more
features/customizations *and* that is as easy to use.
Later,
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: dave@prim.demon.co.uk's message of Mon, 2 May 1994 14:13:33 GMT
To: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May3090559@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
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<ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 13:05:58 GMT
In article <1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes:
In article <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>>>>>> "Garance" == Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes:
>Garance> This whole exchange is oh so weird... Could we go back to
>Garance> just arguing over Emacs issues?
>
>Yes let's do...
>
>Let's ask.. for the sole function of writing programs ie. source code
>when/why would you chose to use Edit over Emacs?
I'm choosing to continue with Edit 'cos I can't be bothered spending the
time to learn Emacs.
It's true that it can take a while to learn all the intricacies of
Emacs and all the ways in which you can customize it. Edit doesn't
have such a learning curve. But that's because there are so very few
ways in which you can customize or enhance it. If you just want to do
the simple things in Emacs which you can do Edit, there is virtually
no learning involved (in particular if you already use Emacs
key bindings in Edit). Emacs was configured by default to look as much
as possible like Edit to the point of binding all the Edit command
keys to their equivalents in Emacs. Switch and be productive in Emacs
immediately and learn all the fancy stuff over the years as most of us
have.
Carl Edman
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: INN for NS_FIP?
Date: 4 May 1994 06:11:43 GMT
Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q7eav$1fa@rain.psg.com>
Is there a version of INN that will compile under NS_FIP? if so what site
has it.. Or I would settle for a "config.data" file setup for NeXTStep.
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
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From: root@beach (Operator)
Subject: NewsGrazer
Message-ID: <Cp9DLM.626@beach.com>
Sender: root@beach.com (Operator)
Organization: SonRise Corp.
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 03:27:22 GMT
Can't post news in any account besides root. Need comprehensive help
determining what files need what permissions in order to post news from
alternate accounts. Also, how do you change permissions when the inspector
panel won't let you do it as root?
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: SoftPC for Windows
Message-ID: <Cp9L37.MFA@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: How fast does SOFTPC work on 040/25Mhz
Keywords: SoftPC
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Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 06:09:07 GMT
Does anyone have any experience as to how fast PC apps run under
SoftPC for windows on an 040/25Mhz NeXT.
How fast is like a 386/40 or 486/50 or like that, OK?
Thanks,
David Bradford
ALso, any experience with compatibility problems - which software
works/doesn't ?
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stupid question: NS 3.2 faster than 3.0 on black hardware ?
Date: 4 May 1994 08:27:22 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <2q7m9a$i0b@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
... and if: how much?
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"No message today". rainer@wmax60.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 3 May 94 15:36:52
Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Center Line, MI
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In-reply-to: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of 2 May 1994 06:52:50 GMT
In article <2q2802$62n@nic-nac.CSU.net>, eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
>[Followups to comp.sys.next.software]
>In article <1994Apr30.134843.7768@vnp.com> rvs@vnp.com
> (Ronald V. Simmons) writes:
>>Edit can't correctly auto-indent code (and Makefiles) both as I type
>> and later.
^^^^^^^^^
>Works fine for me.
Edit can do it later? Show me!
>>I much prefer Emacs' way of cooperating with gdb
>> (i.e. the editor runs gdb rather than the other way around).
>I prefer writing bug-free code and avoiding gdb altogther.
I bow to Your Supreme Buglessness... :-)
>>Edit relies way too much on the mouse for tasks that can be done more
>> quickly if your hands stay firmly on the keyboard. (Try recursive
>> searching forward and backward in Emacs and in Edit. If you know what
>> you are doing, you'll be much faster in Emacs.
>Emacs: Control-s/Control-r
>Edit: Command-g/Command-d
>What's the difference?
Good point. I am currently faster in Edit on that.
--
_____ __ __ ____
|_ _| \/ | ___| Todd M. Swan - tms@cfc.com - CFC, Center Line, MI
| | | |__ | The flame at the heart of a pawnbroker's diamond
|_| |_|\/|_|____| is a cold fire. - Rush
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 04 May 1994 07:48:11 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
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To: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
In-reply-to: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu's message of Wed, 4 May 94 03:08:43 GMT
<lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu> writes:
>In article <1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>,
>Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>I'm choosing to continue with Edit 'cos I can't be bothered spending the
>>time to learn Emacs.
>>
>>Lazily,
>>
>>Dave Griffiths
>I agree, although I don't think I'm necessarily lazy. I downloaded
>Emacs 4.0, and thought it was really cool. I'm impressed. However,
>after a couple of hours configuring things and flipping pages in
>the manual, I'd had enough. For the relatively uninitiated, the
>learning curve is daunting. Not on the keystrokes, per se, but on
>customizing emacs using elisp. I don't want to have to learn a
>language to use emacs. The NS specific docs are lacking as well
>(time constraints I assume). I grew tired of guessing.
Did you read ns-emacs? The info page? If you want to read the Emacs
documentaton you must have "info" available. Get get makeinfo3.1 from
a gnu site. or "C-h i" in emacs.
>Like, for example, how do I get gdb and emacs to communicate like
>Edit with Terminal? How do setup I faces (whatever those are) to
>highlight certain things with different colors or fonts? I'd like
>something akin to the editors in MS Visual C++ or Borland C++ 4.0
>-- colored reserved words, italicized comments, etc. How do I change
>the highlight color for text selection from light gray to something
>else? I'm sure if I read everything going over the Net about 4.0
>I could piece this all together, but I don't have that kinda time.
You only have to read the stuff on "frame" and "face" usage.. If you
want to manipulate colors then the first place I'd start is searching
the documentation for the word "color" ...Try M-x apropos "color" You
really need to first go through the Tuturial and then become familar
with C-h....
You read the manual and the Emacs FAQ (etc/FAQ) hilit19 is the elisp
package you need. It's already provided for you in the emacs19.22/lisp
directory.
Yes Elisp isn't a walk in the park. However, it's like TCL.. A very small
glossary and very powerful once you fully understand how to use it. (I
currently don't just yet)
>What I'd really like is an editor that would make full use of the OO
>environment to do really cool things. Things like colorized reserved
>words, different fonts, non-white background, etc. would, of course,
>be nice. The editor would save to plain ASCII just like emacs, i.e.
>the formatting would be done on the fly by the editor.
If you want to change background colors.. just add the following in
.emacs
(cond
((eq window-system 'ns)
(grabenv)
(setq display-time-24hr-format t)
(display-time)
(set-face-foreground 'modeline "White")
(set-face-background 'modeline "Dark Gray")
(set-face-foreground 'region "White")
(setq default-frame-alist '((background-color . "grey") (foreground-color . "black") (cursor-type . box) (cursor-color . "Dark Gray")))
(setq initial-frame-alist '((top . 1) (left . 550) (width . 80) (height . 55)))))
Emacs does all of that providing you set it up properly. There is very
little that Emacs cannot do. You need to read up on Major modes. and
take a look at the hilit19 elisp package. There are standard Major
modes that exist already and people have written others.. Major modes
perform highly customizable formatting on fly.
Maybe have a
>class browser for each project (something like Methodist, but much
>more complete).
Well you could write one in Elisp.
Have each method in the class browser be movable, so
>when you drag it, the complete source for the method moves to where
>you place it in the list. Split views for multiple views of each
>source file are a must. How 'bout a shelf for those most frequently
>edited methods. With the MiscKit, MOKit, and IconKit, who knows, maybe
>I'll give it a shot myself... Programmatically, you could make each
>line an object and open a world of possibilities.
>I appreciate the effort that went into to Emacs 4.0, but ProjectBuilder,
>Edit, Stuart, and Methodist are a pretty productive combination
>from my perspective. To switch, I want something with more
>features/customizations *and* that is as easy to use.
If you are content to live with the fixed functionality of
those tools then continue to use them.
-------
You cannot expect to learn Emacs overnight... Emacs can do just about
anything you can program it to do. You aint going to get fancy
graphics (ala File Viewer) happening in Emacs. That's not what's it's
all about.
To give you an idea of what's possible in Emacs. Here's just a few of
the common packages (all taken from the FAQ)
* 109:: VM (View Mail) - another mail reader within Emacs
* 110:: Supercite - mail and news citation package within Emacs
* 111:: GNUS - news reader within Emacs
* 112:: Calc - poor man's Mathematica within Emacs
* 113:: Calendar/Diary - calendar manager within Emacs
* 114:: Ange-FTP - transparent FTP access for Emacs's file access routines
* 115:: VIP - vi emulation for Emacs
* 116:: Dired - better directory editor for Emacs
* 117:: AUC TeX - enhanced LaTeX mode with debugging facilities
* 118:: Hyperbole - extensible hypertext management system within Emacs
* 119:: Byte Compiler - enhanced version of Emacs's byte compiler
* 120:: comint - hugely enhanced shell mode and other derived modes
* 121:: BBDB - personal info rolodex integrated with mail/news readers
* 122:: Ispell - spell checker in C with interface for Emacs
* 123:: Epoch - enhanced GNU Emacs with better X interface
* 124:: Lucid GNU Emacs - alternative Emacs 19 with better X interface
* 125:: Demacs - GNU Emacs altered to run on MS-DOS on 386/486 machines
* 126:: Freemacs - a small Emacs for MS-DOS
* 127:: Patch - program to apply "diffs" for updating files
----
To fully appreciate the utility of Emacs requires a lot of time and a
dedicated approach to learning. I have been fortunate in that I've had
a few helpful people to be able to lean on. I started using it last
week and I'm pretty conformtable with it now (as far as using it
goes).
I read/post mail (threaded,VM) and news (threaded,GNUS) all within emacs today.
--
In short Emacs runs an interpeter. If you what you want to do is
possible by programming in elisp then Emacs will do it for you.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
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From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: Looking for opinions on Create v2...
Message-ID: <1994May4.035045.5232@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <2q5hif$rf4@castle.york.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 03:50:45 GMT
In article <2q5hif$rf4@castle.york.ac.uk> csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin
Perkins) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone used Stone Design's Create graphics package? We're
> considering this for use with both black and white hardware under 3.0
> and 3.2 respectively, and I'm interested in hearing your opinions on
Stone Design has a CD out. For $15 you get all three of their products in
demo form. Install and play. Then if you buy I believe the $15 is
deductible.
On the issue of reliability, I've had no real problems and they were
_very_ responsive on one issue I had.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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BIX: rlove
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From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Too many niceties !!
Date: 4 May 1994 13:55:20 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
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In article <2q6dge$qlu@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
> applications that are always started up when I log in. Still, it
> probably would be nice to combine these into one application which
> had multiple modules. I have a few other programming projects that
> I'm busy on (when I can find the time), but it's an interesting
> idea to keep in mind.
>
An interesting (at least to me) side issue of this sort of project
is the best way to display the information. You could have one display
for each process/app that is being monitored, but with a bit of thought
one could come up with one display that shows at a glance the statuses
(statii ? :-) of all of the processes. Hey, that's a decent name for such
an app, AtaGlance. If it's not already claimed, then I'm a-claimin' it
now!
So, if someone delves into this project, then let me know. I'll
put some time and effort into coming up with a good display that shows the
user AtaGlance everything they want to know!
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Re: Looking for opinions on Create v2...
Message-ID: <1994May4.032516.2429@stone.com>
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
References: <2q5hif$rf4@castle.york.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 03:25:16 GMT
In article <2q5hif$rf4@castle.york.ac.uk> csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin
Perkins) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone used Stone Design's Create graphics package? We're
> considering this for use with both black and white hardware under 3.0
> and 3.2 respectively, and I'm interested in hearing your opinions on
> this package. In particular, how bug free is it? I don't want to
> purchase another AppSoft draw standard program...
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Colin
>
>
> --
#ifdef IFYOUCANBELIEVETHEAUTHOR
Give it a go and see what you think! We believe in try before you buy:
ftp.cs.unm.edu : pub/stone/Create/Create_2.0.tar
Or you can order the demo on the STONE_CD for $15 + $5 international
shipping and get all of our apps and tons of demo files.
Create supports multiple pages, user-created PS patterns, object linking
to and from other NS apps, a user-PostScript hacking environment, and all
the special effects you could ever think of, 15 tools, zoom, masking, EPS,
TIFF and filtered files (GIF, etc) support, online help, online manual,
rulers, grids, clip art gallery, text to editable curves, and even animate
pages.
We are continually enhancing Create and fixing any bugs found. We've been
shipping NEXTSTEP apps since 1989 (they were called NeXTstep apps then),
and we're here for the duration.
#endif IFYOUCANBELIEVETHEAUTHOR
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From: russ@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (Clifford R. Bowers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: bar coding program
Date: 4 May 1994 15:12:10 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <2q8e0aINNj9p@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Does anybody know of a bar coding program, commercial or public domain,
that runs on the NeXT? Thanks.
Russ Bowers
From: raney@oyster.smcm.edu (Curt Raney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SAS for NeXT
Date: 4 May 1994 16:22:15 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2q8i3n$480@umd5.umd.edu>
Anybody out there who can tell me how to get in touch with the producers
of the statistical application for the NeXT called SAS ? I want to order
the application. We're at the end of a budget cycle, and I have to get
this info quickly.
raney@oyster.smcm.edu
--
Curt Raney
__________________________________________________
All talk is at best a finger pointing to the moon.
Ancient Chinese saying
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: tfletche@uglz.UVic.CA (Thomas Fletcher)
Subject: NeXT X-Terminal Emulator
Message-ID: <1994May4.154726.21457@sol.UVic.CA>
Followup-To: tfletche@malahat.library.uvic.ca
Summary: I need one!
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 4 May 94 15:47:26 GMT
Hello there,
I ask your pardons in advance if I don't use the proper terminology.
I am just familiarizing myself with a NeXT "mach" terminal which is
running version 3 of the system software.
I am working at setting up library user access to WWW using X-terms
but am also looking for a text based browser. So essentially I have
two questions:
1- Where can I find an X-terminal emulator for the NeXT station?
2- Does anyone out there have suggestions for WWW browsers, both
textually and graphically interfaced.
Thanks in Advance
Thomas Fletcher
**********************************************************************
tfletche@engr.uvic.ca
tfletche@malahat.library.uvic.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.next.software
From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Subject: NeXTSTEP-HP Fortran
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <CpAEqK.J5q@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 16:49:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Keywords: fortran nextstep hp nsfhp
hi all.
this subject was brought up a while ago but i havent seen
it since and am hoping there is more information out there.
we all know that if we run NeXTSTEP on the HP platform,
HP fortran will not work for those of us who use fortran
unless we boot hpux.
i spoke with Absoft about this and they said that they
plan on producing a nsfhp compiler but it is not
actually on the drawing board, or something like that.
has anyone spoke with other compiler makers?
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Subject: NeXTSTEP HP Fortran
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <CpAEts.182y@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 16:51:28 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
hi all.
this subject was brought up a while ago but i havent seen
it since and am hoping there is more information out there.
we all know that if we run NeXTSTEP on the HP platform,
HP fortran will not work for those of us who use fortran
unless we boot hpux.
i spoke with Absoft about this and they said that they
plan on producing a nsfhp compiler but it is not
actually on the drawing board, or something like that.
has anyone spoke with other compiler makers?
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: edx@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Solar Eclipse Viewing?
Message-ID: <1994May4.104503.18048@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 4 May 94 10:45:02 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
Is there any Next software out there that
will tell me if I can see the upcoming
Solar Eclipse on May 10 from northern Utah?
All leads appreciated.
Tom Roberts
edx@cc.usu.edu
From: hvillega@roxette (Hugo Villegas Roji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IO error on pageout: error ??
Date: 4 May 1994 21:07:48 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <2q92r4$241i@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
HI!
Today I had have receivced a lot of messages like this:
IO error on pageout: error = 28.
vnode_pageout: failed!
In the console window, and my computer looks like is slepping.
Anybody out there knows what this minds?
Thank you in advance
..................................................................
Hugo Ernesto Villegas Roji .
Nexit Diseno Grafico .
.
Ricardo Margain Zozaya 210-5 / CP 66267 .
Valle de Santa Engracia / Garza Garcia / Nuevo Leon / Mexico .
tels. 52 (8) 335 19 14 / 335 19 15 / 335 08 87 / 356 30 53 fax .
.................................................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bob@laplace.uucp ("Robert L. Masterson")
Subject: Re: Emacs vs. Edit (was Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep)
Message-ID: <1994May4.140057.906@cs.yale.edu>
Summary: RTF tools outside of the editor are very useful
Keywords: RTF, CodeReviewer, CASE, NEXTSTEP
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
References: <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu> <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2q2q3e$s4c@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 14:00:57 GMT
I have been following the Emacs.app vs. Edit.app discussion with some interest,
because a number of the points people are raising here are things that were
driving factors behind the creation of CodeReviewer, the graphical and formal
software analysis tool from Software Services and Solutions, Inc.. We saw the
benefits of RTF for developers over two years ago, and we began to create tools
to allow developers the advantages of such a format, without requiring them
to stop using their favorite editor (often EMACS). We do not use usually
develop with RTF source code in an editor, but we do employ RTF where it is
most valuable, to visually highlight sections of code and changes when
analyzing software.
We wanted to be able to (a) take source code, in RTF or ASCII format and
compare it with other versions to create an editable RTF version of the code,
suitable for in-line unification, and (b) create an more easily readable
version of ASCII source code through conversion to RTF (similar to what vgrind
does with C/A/T codes). CodeReviewer's visual analysis mechanisms satisfy both
of these goals. The formal analysis components of CodeReviewer also produce
RTF that can be integrated as comments into source code as method, function,
and complexity documentation.
Both users of Emacs and Edit can benefit by these functions, which are provided
by a separate tool (CodeReviewer), other than their editor.
If you would like to see how these functions can complement either Emacs or
Edit-based software development, email to CASE_Tools@sss.com requesting an
CodeReviewer demo, or FTP it from one of the following places:
cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/demos/programming
sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/submissions
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/commercial/apps
Feel free to contact me for any more information about CodeReviewer, SS&S CASE
Tools, or RTF for development.
Robert L. Masterson, Vice President
Software Services and Solutions, Inc.
rlm@sss.com
phone: (203) 630-2000
fax: (203) 630-2020
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jakc@world.std.com (john a curry)
Subject: Re: Looking for opinions on Create v2...
Message-ID: <CpAxGo.L5K@world.std.com>
Keywords: Stone Design Create
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <2q5hif$rf4@castle.york.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 23:34:00 GMT
csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin Perkins) writes:
>Hi,
>Has anyone used Stone Design's Create graphics package? We're
>considering this for use with both black and white hardware under 3.0
>and 3.2 respectively, and I'm interested in hearing your opinions on
>this package. In particular, how bug free is it? I don't want to
>purchase another AppSoft draw standard program...
Well, in my opinion -- though I'm not doing design for a big graphics
firm or anything -- Create is the most intuitive, easy to use Image
Processor application I've ever seen.
I know there are some apps that offer more, but Create's modus
operandi is unique.
I must admit that I haven't actually created anything with ComposeinColor
or Virtuoso (just played with the latter), but having used Illustrator
on NS and other platforms I can honestly say that I can whip up a
composition in Create in less than half the time it would take me to
do it with Illustrator -- and I'm proficient with both.
Definitely give Create a test drive, particularly if you find yourself
incorporating text into your work.
From what I understand Stone Design has released a new demonstration
CD rom that contains all their products and costs only $15 (at least I
think that's how much it is).
Anyway, check comp.sys.next.announce for more info on contacting
Stone; their most recent announcements should still be there.
Hope this helps,
John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: bar coding program
Message-ID: <CpAz8z.3D2@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2q8e0aINNj9p@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 00:12:35 GMT
Clifford R. Bowers (russ@physical27.chem.ufl.edu) wrote:
: Does anybody know of a bar coding program, commercial or public domain,
: that runs on the NeXT? Thanks.
Bar-A-Coda, by Hot Technologies.
email: info@hot.com
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs vs. Edit (was Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep)
Date: 05 May 1994 00:08:07 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May5010807@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu> <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<2q2q3e$s4c@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
<1994May4.140057.906@cs.yale.edu>
To: bob@laplace.uucp ("Robert L. Masterson")
In-reply-to: bob@laplace.uucp's message of Wed, 4 May 1994 14:00:57 GMT
<bob@laplace.uucp> writes:
>Both users of Emacs and Edit can benefit by these functions, which are provided
>by a separate tool (CodeReviewer), other than their editor.
What's the point? With regard to higlighting and making things stand
out. Emacs gives you all that for free and a hell of a lot more.
I find it particularly ironic that "free" software such as Emacs has
generated such advocacy (in the very _loose_ sense of the word) for
commercial software. I'm sure RMS will step in any moment now :-)
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Subject: Re: Looking for opinions on Create v2...
Message-ID: <CpAurJ.30G@califhistsoc.org>
Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 22:35:42 GMT
Create v2 is fantastic. This program, like other StoneDesign Products, has
become a mainstream application that I depend on. Andrew Stone has been a
significant reason for still being able to *live* the NeXTSTEP dream.
Without core NS applications, the Black Boxes would indeed be *too
specialized* and would be like the dinosaurs. Instead, I remain empowered.
I use DataPhile as essentially as I breathe clean air, and drink clean
water. Create provides as much ability with Display PostScript.
*Just a humble opinion* from another NeXTSTEP user who Mike Dahmus would
classify as too brainwashed to know better...Oh, there you go again!!
From: dean@thrall.com (Dean Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with Mathematica and Gourmet.app
Date: 5 May 1994 00:38:16 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q9f5o$pf6@nwfocus.wa.com>
I am trying to get Gourmet.app to work with Mathematica 2.1, but it gives me
a warning about Mathematica executable will not launch properly. Mma works
fine from command line and launching via the icon. Does anybody use Gourmet
that could help?
Thanks,
Dean
--
NeXTmail Please | More computer stuff!
|
dean@thrall.com | - My wife
|
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is IRC available for NS_FIP
Date: 5 May 1994 02:58:30 GMT
Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q9ncm$oe7@rain.psg.com>
Is there an IRC client software for NS_FIP? if so where..
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark Thomsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Boss Logic Inc.
Date: 5 May 1994 03:09:51 GMT
Organization: TRW Systems Development Division
Message-ID: <2q9o1v$jib@deneva.sdd.trw.com>
References: <1994May3.102117.28432@fokus.gmd.de>
Mehrdad Roshandel writes
> Does anybody know what happend to the Boss Logic Inc.?
> I need a software from this firm but i can't find them.
> Does anybody knows the connection?
I am suprised this is left unanswered. BL went under last year. Their
principal product, BDMS, has been taken over (under what terms I never
heard) by a UK company (for Windows) and by a US company (for NEXTSTEP).
Contact your local NeXT sales person to locate the new companies. I
gotta believe that the product will have a new name.
Mark R. Thomsen
Gemstone Systems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: garth@syd.au.swissbank.com (Garth Ormsby)
Subject: INGRES Adaptor for DBKit?
Message-ID: <1994May5.021844.3995@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: SBC Australia.
Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 02:18:44 GMT
Does anyone know the whereabouts of an INGRES Adaptor for the DBKit?
From reading the "NeXT Database Solutions Guide" from NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM
(and asking INGRES) I surmise that no such supported production level
product exists.
So my question becomes, does anyone know of an unsupported attempt at this
product? Alternatively, are there any guidelines or templates for building
such an Adaptor?
Cheers, Garth.
,-_|\ Garth Ormsby UseNet: garth@syd.au.swissbank.com
/ ^ \ SBC Australia Ltd NeXTNet: garth@il.us.swissbank.com
\_,-._* Sydney, Australia ChatNet: +61 2 258 2559
v #include <std/disclaimer.h> FaxNet: +61 2 258 2400
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Solar Eclipse Viewing?
Date: 5 May 1994 05:17:09 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q9vgl$4k2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1994May4.104503.18048@cc.usu.edu>
Keywords: Look! Up in the sky!
In article <1994May4.104503.18048@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu writes:
> Is there any Next software out there that
> will tell me if I can see the upcoming
> Solar Eclipse on May 10 from northern Utah?
>
> All leads appreciated.
e-mail Howard Cole (hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com) and ask him if his
Rendezvous.app will track this. (does a bang-up job tracking the
Shuttle...) If yes, see what Alembic is selling it for.
Steve Weintz
EthnoGraphics
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Faxing with Supra (for free)?
Date: 5 May 1994 05:02:12 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2q9ukk$kch@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <2q44ov$nvi@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
cc: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu
Paul R. Tognato-Haddad writes
> Howdy,
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to fax with my SupraFax modem, without paying a
bundle of money. Yes I know about N
>
> XFax but faxing isn't worth >$100 to me so I need a way to send/receive faxes
that doesn't cost anything.
>
> I've tried Winfax (with SoftPC 3.0 moto), and a few other windows fax
programs but none have worked. So does any one have a solution to my problem?
>
> Any solution no matter how weird is okay, as long as it doesn't cost
anything.
>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:40:54 -0700
From: Kevin Savetz <savetz@rahul.net>
Subject: FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet? (ver. 0.1)
Summary: Answers the Frequently Asked Question "How can I send a fax
from the Internet?"
Archive-name: internet-services/fax-faq
Last-Modified: 1994/4/13
Version: 0.1
FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?
version 0.1 - 13 April 1994
Send comments & updates to Kevin Savetz <savetz@rahul.net>.
This document is copyright 1994 by Kevin M. Savetz. All rights reserved.
More legal stuff is near the end of this file. This document is brand
new and in transition. If you notice that an Internet fax service is
missing, or information herein needs updating, please send e-mail to
"savetz@rahul.net".
*** Table of Contents
Can I send a fax from the Internet?
Free "remote printing"
InterFax
FAXiNET
Unigate
Legal Stuff
Where to Find this Document
*** Can I send a fax from the Internet?
Indeed. There are several services for sending a fax via Internet mail -
some are free while others are pay services. At least one service even
lets you receive a fax via Internet mail. The four mail-to-fax services
that I know about are discussed below. All the services require that you
can send and receive electronic mail to the Internet.
*** Free "remote printing"
One fax-from-the-Internet service is the brainchild of Carl Malamud (the
creator of Internet Talk Radio) and Marshall Rose. They're doing
research on how to integrate special-purpose devices, like facsimile
printers, into the fabric of the Internet. The experiment works simply
enough - send electronic mail to a special address, and soon after (if
your recipient's fax machine is in a covered area), out comes a
freshly-minted fax.
This service itself is free - rather, it costs no more than sending a
standard e-mail message. Malamud says the service is "cost-effective and
distance insensitive" but not "free" because it costs money to send
electronic mail. The creators are investigating ways of recouping a
nominal fee for sending faxes to help reimburse institutions for the
cost of sending faxes (for instance, advertisements on fax cover
sheets).
"The point of this experiment is not 'here is a way we can freeload on
altruistic people,' but 'here is a way we can all pitch in and work
together to provide telephone service," Malamud says.
You can't send a fax just anywhere with this service. A variety of
companies, institutions and citizens linked to the Internet have joined
the experiment by linking a computer and fax modem to the 'net. When an
organization joins the remote-fax service, it specifies what areas they
are willing to send faxes to. In most cases, an organization will allow
faxes to be sent to any machine that is a local call from its location.
When you send an e-mail fax message, you (naturally) must include the
phone number of the recipient's fax machine. A computer looks at the
phone number and decides if any participating fax machines cover the
area to which you want to send a fax. If so, your message is routed to
the appropriate machine for faxation. Otherwise, you will receive
electronic mail informing you the fax couldn't be delivered.
This is a new experiment, so only a smattering of participants have
enlisted their fax machines in the quest to send outgoing messages from
total strangers to other total strangers. Fax sites are being added to
the network on a regular basis. For a current list of faxable areas,
send e-mail to "tpc-coverage@town.hall.org" (subject and message body
unimportant).
To send a fax over the Internet, compose an e-mail message. The body of
the message should contain the contents of your fax message. The To:
line is the most important part of your fax-mail, because it must
contain the phone number of the recipient's fax machine as well as the
recipient's name. The To: line should look something like this:
To: remote-printer.Arlo_Cats/Room_123@12025551212.iddd.tpc.int
To the left of the @ symbol, you must include the identity of the
recipient. The words "remote-printer" tell the fax server the type of
access. (In this case, faxing or remote printing.) Because some mailers
have difficulty dealing with addresses that contain spaces, you should
be very careful as to what characters you use to identify the recipient.
It safest to use upper and lower case letters, digits, the _ and the /
character. When the fax cover sheet is generated, the _ will turn into a
space and the / will become a line break. So, the above address would
generate a cover sheet like:
Please deliver this facsimile to:
Arlo Cats
Room 123
The mess of numbers to the right of the above example identifies the
telephone number of the remote fax machine. Exchanges must be specified
by country code and phone number. This means you must specify the
country code and then the phone number of your intended recipient. If
you're sending to a machine in the U.S., this just means you need to
send a 1, the area code and the phone number. Next, add the Internet
domain ".iddd.tpc.int".
You can send a fax to multiple fax machines, or even a combination of
faxes and traditional e-mail recipients. After the deed is done, you
will receive electronic mail telling you if your fax was successfully
sent or not.
For a copy of the Frequently Asked Questions list on using this service,
send mail to "tpc-faq@town.hall.org" (subject and message body
unimportant) and you will automatically receive the FAQ via e-mail. The
FAQ also covers advanced topics like using MIME to send fancy formatted
text or graphics and how to operate your own fax server for the good of
the world. Note that that fax FAQ is different this fax FAQ.
There is also a mailing list for discussion of the fax service and its
implementation. To join, send a request to
"tpc-rp-request@aarnet.edu.au".
*** InterFax
InterFax allows you to send faxes via e-mail within the US or
internationally. InterFax costs money to use (billed to your credit
card) but, unlike the remote printing experiment above, InterFax lets
you send faxes anywhere, not just select locations. As of this writing,
InterFax costs $5 per month, which includes the first five fax pages.
Additional pages cost 50 cents each. There is a one-time sign-up charge
of $25. For further information, send e-mail to faxmaster@pan.com, or
contact InterFax at PO Box 162, Skippack, PA 19474 USA. (215) 584-0300;
FAX: (215)584-1038.
*** FAXiNET
Another fax-by-mail service is FAXiNET, which lets you send any text
(ASCII) or PostScript documents to fax machines worldwide. FAXiNET can
send faxes to more than 50 countries, and plans to add more. The company
also says it can receive faxes for you, which will be delivered to you
via electronic mail. I haven't used their service, but if it works, the
ability to receive faxes in e-mail is a unique one.
Accounts for individuals cost 75 cents per page, plus a one-time $20
activation fee. Additional services, including adding your custom logo
and signature to your faxes, are available at extra cost. Corporate
accounts are also available. More information is available from AnyWare
Associates, FAXiNET, 32 Woodland Road, Boston, MA 02130. (617) 522-8102.
E-mail: sales@awa.com
*** Unigate - for faxing to Russia
Unigate is another pay-for-use service that allows you to send faxes to
and from Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States. Unigate is a
commercial service that also handles "snail mail. " Most of us probably
don't need to fax Russia, but if you should need to, Unigate is probably
much less expensive than however you're doing it now: fax service from
USA to Russia (or back) is $1.59 per page. For more information, e-mail
"yuri@atmos.washington.edu".
***Legal Stuff
This document is copyright 1994 by Kevin M. Savetz. All rights reserved.
Permission for non-commercial distribution is hereby granted, provided
that this file is distributed intact, including this copyright notice
and the version information above. Permission for commercial
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DOCUMENT.
This document is new and in transition. If you notice that something
important missing, or information herein needs updating, please contact
the editor.
The editor and contributors have developed this FAQ as a service to the
Internet community. We hope you find it useful. This FAQ is purely a
volunteer effort. Although every effort has been made to insure that
answers are as accurate as possible, no guarantee is implied or
intended. While the editor tries to keep this document current, remember
that the Internet and its services are constantly changing, so don't be
surprised if you happen across statements which are obsolete. If you do,
please send corrections to the editor. Corrections, questions, and
comments should be sent to Kevin Savetz at "savetz@rahul.net" (Internet)
or "savetz" (America Online.) Please indicate what version of this
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From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Faxing with Supra (for free)?
Date: 5 May 1994 05:35:49 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
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I have been able to send regular text from NeXTmail to a
fax machine using the "free remote-printing" described in
the previous post. But I have not been able to send a
Postscript or tiff image. The MIME standard seems to be
required for that.
If anyone figures out a way of sending postscript or tiff
images to a fax machine from NeXTSTEP using this method,
please post or send me e-mail.
-- Greg
From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Boss Logic Inc.
Date: 3 May 1994 15:33:44 GMT
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Mehrdad Roshandel writes
#Does anybody know what happend to the Boss Logic Inc.?
#I need a software from this firm but i can't find them.
#Does anybody knows the connection?
#=========================================================================
# Mehrdad Roshandel,
# GMD Fokus
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# 10623 Berlin Phone: +49 30 254 99 230
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Boss Logic went out of business last summer.
Is there anything in particular you are looking for?
Some spinoffs of Boss, Dolphin Technologies and
Integrity Solutions, may have what you are looking for.
The rights to the NeXT version of the DocumentManager went to
Bozell; They are using it internally. The rights to the MS/Windows
version of the DocumentManager were sold to Uniplex Ltd. and they are
about to bring it to market as part of their office package.
Dolphin Tech. has created their own document management product,
Author,Author!, different from the original Boss product.
Mark (ex Boss Logic employee)
--
Mark Anenberg , OpenStep Development Team
Email: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (NeXTMail Welcome)
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and
in no way represent those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu's message of Wed, 4 May 94 03:08:43 GMT
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In article <1994May4.030843.11870@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) writes:
I agree, although I don't think I'm necessarily lazy. I downloaded
Emacs 4.0, and thought it was really cool. I'm impressed. However,
after a couple of hours configuring things and flipping pages in
the manual, I'd had enough. For the relatively uninitiated, the
learning curve is daunting. Not on the keystrokes, per se, but on
customizing emacs using elisp. I don't want to have to learn a
language to use emacs.
But the point is -- you don't have to. You can do virtually anything
you can do in Edit in Emacs and without learning any emacs lisp beyond
cut&paste from examples (and most often not even that). Granted,
elisp can be intimidating for people who aren't used to that class of
languages, but you don't need to learn it unless you want to go far
beyond what Edit can do. Most users don't and only pick up their
elisp over the years as they need it.
The NS specific docs are lacking as well (time constraints I
assume). I grew tired of guessing.
I'll be happy to clarify them. Can you please post or send me a list
of questions which you think should be answered, but aren't ? One
point of confusion for some people is that many of the features which
they expected to be NeXTstep specific (like e.g. code highlighting)
are not and so they aren't documented in the NeXTstep section but in
the main manuals.
Like, for example, how do I get gdb and emacs to communicate like
Edit with Terminal?
If this was implemented, you'd just 'set view-program' in gdb to
Emacs. Unfortunately it isn't. Some people consider the gdb working
as a subprocess of emacs (start with M-x gdb) to be a superior
solution. Personally, I don't but then I haven't really tried that.
There will not be another release without that communication.
How do setup I faces (whatever those are) to highlight certain
things with different colors or fonts? I'd like something akin to
the editors in MS Visual C++ or Borland C++ 4.0 -- colored reserved
words, italicized comments, etc.
M-x load-library hilit19. Or if you want it to be automatic put this
in your ~/.emacs.
(load-library "hilit19")
How do I change the highlight color for text selection from light
gray to something else?
The highlighted area is called the "Region" in Emacs talk. So to set
its background color to e.g. Dark Gray you use this dwrite:
dwrite Emacs RegionBackground "Dark Gray"
I think I posted that one in the original article of this thread with
all the other Emacs hints.
I'm sure if I read everything going over the Net about 4.0 I could
piece this all together, but I don't have that kinda time.
Well, few of us do. Fortunately there is very complete hypertext
online documentation which means that anything you want to know can be
found on your machine, though knowing where to look takes a little
while to learn.
What I'd really like is an editor that would make full use of the OO
environment to do really cool things. Things like colorized reserved
words, different fonts, non-white background, etc. would, of course,
be nice. The editor would save to plain ASCII just like emacs, i.e.
the formatting would be done on the fly by the editor.
I think all of that _is_ being done by emacs today. Check out
hilit19.
Maybe have a class browser for each project (something like
Methodist, but much more complete). Have each method in the class
browser be movable, so when you drag it, the complete source for
the method moves to where you place it in the list.
Sorry, but I'm afraid while this could be done by a little bit of
elisp, I don't think it has yet. Somebody will have to write that
one.
Split views for multiple views of each source file are a must.
You have that today in Emacs.
I appreciate the effort that went into to Emacs 4.0, but ProjectBuilder,
Edit, Stuart, and Methodist are a pretty productive combination
from my perspective. To switch, I want something with more
features/customizations *and* that is as easy to use.
It's true. However Emacs for NS already offers as good cooperation
with all of these programs as Edit (with the glaring exception of
driving Emacs from gdb).
Thank you for your comments,
Carl Edman
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 04 May 1994 07:48:11 GMT
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In article <ROBERT.94May4084811@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>In article <1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>,
Did you read ns-emacs? The info page? If you want to read the Emacs
documentaton you must have "info" available. Get get makeinfo3.1 from
a gnu site. or "C-h i" in emacs.
Makeinfo is part of Emacs and will be installed automatically in both
the source and the binary release. No need to get another package.
If you want to change background colors.. just add the following in
.emacs
Or use the dwrites documented in the section defaults of the
Emacs-for-NS manual.
Carl Edman
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
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Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 5 May 1994 09:30:49 GMT
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In article <TMS.94May3153652@litespeed.cfc.com> tms@cfc.com
(Todd M. Swan) writes:
>Edit can do it later? Show me!
Make "cb" a user command or user pipe.
>I bow to Your Supreme Buglessness... :-)
I'm just showing my age. Just as spell checkers teach people
it's "OK" to make spelling mistakes, debuggers teach people it's
"OK" to write code full of bugs. I grew up in an era that
encouraged excellence and took pride in getting something done
right the *first* time.
The only thing is ... I don't feel "that old." Eek.
-=EPS=-
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From: szallies@dame.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Constantin Szallies (PG234))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: My floppy reduces performace(NS/FIP)
Date: 5 May 1994 10:11:28 GMT
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While copying a file from/to floppy or formating a disk, my comp
gets real slow. For example starting a new app while copying in the background
take about 4 times longer than usual. My performance monitor (it's call
KPerfMon or something) shows about 25% load only :-(
That's happening here? Any surgestions?
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From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: disc-doubler
Date: 5 May 1994 11:26:50 GMT
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I've got a question:
Are there any programs à la stacker or double-space (DOS) to compress data in realtime on UNIX ? Or are there some problems to realize that on UNIX ?
Thanks in advance
Oli
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From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP HP Fortran
In-Reply-To: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu's message of Wed, 4 May 1994 16:51:28 GMT
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Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 14:24:22 GMT
How about f2c, the Fortran to C translator?
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
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Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP-HP Fortran
Date: 5 May 1994 16:26:48 GMT
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In article <CpAEqK.J5q@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
writes:
> we all know that if we run NeXTSTEP on the HP platform,
> HP fortran will not work for those of us who use fortran
> unless we boot hpux.
>
> i spoke with Absoft about this and they said that they
> plan on producing a nsfhp compiler but it is not
> actually on the drawing board, or something like that.
>
> has anyone spoke with other compiler makers?
>
> kelley wittmeyer
> dept of atmospheric science
> colorado state university
Check out the NAG FORTRAN 90 compiler for NEXTSTEP. It will work on any new
NEXTSTEP platform as it translate FORTRAN 90 code to C, and compiles with the
native C-compiler. This will allow FORTRAN code to run on the new HP platform
without having to wait on Absoft to port their compiler.
- Tim -
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Tim Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu
Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270
Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064
NeXTmail ok!
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From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP HP Fortran
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In article <PFKEB.94May5072422@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) writes:
> How about f2c, the Fortran to C translator?
> --
> Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
> Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
> Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
in our case, we have a large model that is written in fortran.
it will not be converted to another language, at least not
in the near future, for a number of reasons.
f2c does work well for small programs i've found, but i've
had trouble with larger ones. but that's assuming you want
to transform it to c in the first place.
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
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From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Subject: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
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Hi -=EPS=-,
you said that almost anything emacs can do, can be done in Edit as well.
I would be very glad to have $$ matching and not only bracket matching in
Edit - sure for texing, like in the tex mode in emacs.
Can you tell me how?
I thought I post this to the net as other people might be interested in
your answer as well.
Thanks, -:MCW:-)
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Moritz C. Willers
Institute for Theoretical Physics
Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
Date: 5 May 1994 18:25:54 GMT
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In article <1994May5.171543.384@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch
(Moritz Willers) writes:
: Hi -=EPS=-,
:
: you said that almost anything emacs can do, can be done in Edit as well.
: I would be very glad to have $$ matching and not only bracket matching
: in Edit - sure for texing, like in the tex mode in emacs.
:
: Can you tell me how?
:
: I thought I post this to the net as other people might be interested in
: your answer as well.
:
: Thanks, -:MCW:-)
Actually I was wondering much the same thing the other day. It's easy to
get the expansion dictionary to print matching {} or a sequence like {\bf
} but after it prints I really want the cursor to end up *inside* the
braces instead of just past them. I used to do this all the time using
XyWrite back in '87---isn't there some way to make edit do this? Please...
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From: dkoski@noao.edu (David Koski)
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
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Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 19:34:20 GMT
In article <2qbdni$8tl@crcnis1.unl.edu>, Dan Scott <me@ienext.unl.edu> wrote:
>Actually I was wondering much the same thing the other day. It's easy to
>get the expansion dictionary to print matching {} or a sequence like {\bf
>} but after it prints I really want the cursor to end up *inside* the
>braces instead of just past them. I used to do this all the time using
>XyWrite back in '87---isn't there some way to make edit do this? Please...
Actually you can do this. If you put the << and >> characters (that is
what they look like, they are not really less than and greater than), you
can have fields to be filled out. I think that cmd-tab will move to the
next one. I use this all the time to give function and file headers.
David Koski
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From: gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: How do I set the news service from the command line
Message-ID: <1994May5.190817.12381@sol.UVic.CA>
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Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 5 May 94 19:08:17 GMT
In Newsgrazer, I set the news server to a different machine that
seems to take forever. Now I can't get into Newsgrazer to change
the server. How can I change this from a terminal window? Help!
Thanks, Greg
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using the Sybase Limited version with NS 3.2
Date: 5 May 1994 17:09:58 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
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What is involved in being able to use my Sybase Limited Version that came with
my original cube under the current NEXTSTEP 3.2?
If there is a patch or something, could someone please email it to me...
Thanks!
Scott
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- Scott Anguish -
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From: shenley@sunshine.net (Steve Henley)
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Subject: ON Duty Users?
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Date: 6 May 1994 00:38:45 GMT
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I am considering purchasing ON Duty for my calendaring and contact
tracking. I would appreciate feedback from users of this program on
likes/dislikes. I would also like to know if anyone has used the program
with the add on module which allows transferring info to/from the Sharp
Wizard(s).
Please respond by Email to shenley@sunshine.net. Thanks in advance for any
info.
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Subject: Re: Solar Eclipse Viewing? YES!
Message-ID: <1994May5.101947.18162@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 5 May 94 10:19:47 MDT
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In article <2q9vgl$4k2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:
> In article <1994May4.104503.18048@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu writes:
> > Is there any Next software out there that
> > will tell me if I can see the upcoming
> > Solar Eclipse on May 10 from northern Utah?
> >
> > All leads appreciated.
>
> e-mail Howard Cole (hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com) and ask him if his
> Rendezvous.app will track this. (does a bang-up job tracking the
> Shuttle...) If yes, see what Alembic is selling it for.
Rendezvous will indeed show you how the upcoming solar eclipse
will look. Just open the USCities file, select your site in the
Ground Station browser, bring up the telescope inspector and turn
on the Sun and Moon. You can watch the moon's position get closer
to the sun's position by sequentially selecting the dates on the
calendar in the Main window. When you reach the 10th, you can watch
how the eclipse will take place by using the az/el scrollers to put the
telescope's crosshairs on the sun and the field of view scrollers to
give you about a two degree field of view, and click the inertial tracking
mode button to keep the telescope pointed at the sun. Then as you increment
the clock through 4pm GMT, you can see the moon cross in front of the sun.
The demo that's on cs.orst.edu in pub/next/demos/science will provide
accurate tracking through an epoch of June 1, 1994 - even though the
on-line help says May 1, 1994. So, you can use the demo to watch this
eclipse.
By the weekend, I will be uploading a new version of Rendezvous that
includes support for planet ephemeris calculations and a Solar System
Inspector. This is for those folks who want to watch the impending
collision of comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 with Jupiter in July.
Have fun!
Howard
hcole@tumbleweed.nrcabq.com
--
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From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Re: bar coding program
Message-ID: <CpD2J3.LKt@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <CpAz8z.3D2@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 03:16:39 GMT
In article <CpAz8z.3D2@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris
Saldanha) writes:
> Clifford R. Bowers (russ@physical27.chem.ufl.edu) wrote:
>
> : Does anybody know of a bar coding program, commercial or public domain,
> : that runs on the NeXT? Thanks.
>
> Bar-A-Coda, by Hot Technologies.
>
Ya, there's one called BarCodes by joe freeman probly available on either
orst, sonata or informatik. It acts as a Services also which is cool.
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
Date: 6 May 1994 05:01:55 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2qcj03$krc@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <1994May5.171543.384@aragorn.unibe.ch> <2qbdni$8tl@crcnis1.unl.edu> <1994May5.193420.10759@noao.edu>
Two comments:
1) You may not be aware of all the things Edit can do.
Learn more before you dismiss it.
2) Yes, Edit can be improved. Tell NeXT how!
Launch /NextDeveloper/Demos/BugNeXT.app
Select Topic NextApps>Edit
Set Severity=Suggestion
-=EPS=-
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of 5 May 1994 09:30:49 GMT
To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May5084104@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CEDMAN.94Apr28093551@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1994Apr30.134843.7768@vnp.com>
<2q2802$62n@nic-nac.CSU.net> <TMS.94May3153652@litespeed.cfc.com>
<2qaec9$i0k@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 12:41:03 GMT
In article <2qaec9$i0k@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
I'm just showing my age. Just as spell checkers teach people
it's "OK" to make spelling mistakes, debuggers teach people it's
"OK" to write code full of bugs. I grew up in an era that
encouraged excellence and took pride in getting something done
right the *first* time.
Few people are aware of this, but EPS once was involved in the design
of a new car. In this car the entire engine block and most other
internal parts were encased in a block of glass making them completely
inaccessible for repair and tuning. "In a good car", EPS said
"nothing ever breaks."
Carl Edman
From: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul R. Tognato-Haddad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Faxing for free part II (flexfax)
Date: 6 May 1994 07:15:10 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qcqpu$i2h@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Howdy,
In my continuing search for free fax software for my NeXTstation,
I've been trying to compile flexfax. I have the latest gcc, the
latest libg++, the latest ghostscript, but I still can't get flexfax
to compile. Has anyone been able to compile this beast? If so
please mail me.
Flexfax for anyone interested is a generic unix faxing program that
allows sending/receiving faxes from a variety of machines and
modems. Its available anonymous ftp from sgi.com in the sgi/fax/
directory.
Now if I could just figure out how to compile it I'll be real happy.
See ya,
--
Paul (NeXTmail preferred)
# Paul R. Tognato-Haddad
e. Has anyone been able to compile this beast? If so
please mail me.
Flexfax for anyone interested is a generic unix faxing program that
allows sending/receiving faxes from a variety of machines and
modems. Its available anonymous ftp from sgi.com in the sgi/fax/
directory.
Now if I could just figure out how to com
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From: tt@panda.unibe.ch (Thomas Tschannen)
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
Message-ID: <1994May6.070021.17037@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
References: <2qbdni$8tl@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 07:00:21 GMT
In article <2qbdni$8tl@crcnis1.unl.edu> me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott)
writes:
> In article <1994May5.171543.384@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch
> (Moritz Willers) writes:
> : Hi -=EPS=-,
> :
> : you said that almost anything emacs can do, can be done in Edit as
well.
> : I would be very glad to have $$ matching and not only bracket matching
> : in Edit - sure for texing, like in the tex mode in emacs.
> :
> : Can you tell me how?
> :
> : I thought I post this to the net as other people might be interested
in
> : your answer as well.
> :
> : Thanks, -:MCW:-)
>
> Actually I was wondering much the same thing the other day. It's easy to
> get the expansion dictionary to print matching {} or a sequence like
{\bf
> } but after it prints I really want the cursor to end up *inside* the
> braces instead of just past them. I used to do this all the time using
> XyWrite back in '87---isn't there some way to make edit do this?
Please...
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well at least this one should be possible. Put something like
bf {\\bf text }
^ at TAB here
into your .editdict
With kind regards,
Thomas
---
Thomas Tschannen
Physics Institute
Bern, Switzerland
tschannen@phil.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
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From: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Message-ID: <1994May6.091916.3808@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi
Organization: University of Oulu
References: <CEDMAN.94May5084104@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 09:19:16 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.94May5084104@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> In article <2qaec9$i0k@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric
> P. Scott) writes:
> I grew up in an era that encouraged excellence and took pride
> in getting something done right the *first* time.
>
> Few people are aware of this, but EPS once was involved in the
> design of a new car. In this car the entire engine block and
> most other internal parts were encased in a block of glass making
> them completely inaccessible for repair and tuning. "In a good
> car", EPS said "nothing ever breaks."
>
> Carl Edman
How does software `break'?
--
Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O
Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) |
The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v
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From: tt@panda.unibe.ch (Thomas Tschannen)
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
Message-ID: <1994May6.080112.20219@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
References: <1994May6.070021.17037@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 08:01:12 GMT
In article <1994May6.070021.17037@aragorn.unibe.ch> tt@panda.unibe.ch
(Thomas Tschannen) writes:
[Some stuff omitted]
>
> Well at least this one should be possible. Put something like
> bf {\\bf text }
> ^ at TAB here
Upps, should have mentioned to select 'text' and use
Utilities->Expert->Insert Field.
> into your .editdict
Sorry,
Thomas
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Using the Sybase Limited version with NS 3.2
Message-ID: <CpDLrK.336@xexos.com>
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References: <2qbnb6$fkc@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 10:14:06 GMT
In article <2qbnb6$fkc@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
> What is involved in being able to use my Sybase Limited Version that came
with
> my original cube under the current NEXTSTEP 3.2?
>
> If there is a patch or something, could someone please email it to me...
It just works.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC for Windows
Date: 6 May 1994 10:13:38 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qd58i$puk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Cp9L37.MFA@ucdavis.edu>
In article <Cp9L37.MFA@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David
Bradford) writes:
>
> Does anyone have any experience as to how fast PC apps run under
>
> SoftPC for windows on an 040/25Mhz NeXT.
>
> How fast is like a 386/40 or 486/50 or like that, OK?
I remember reading in this newsgroup a while ago that SoftPC is only being
updated for Intel hardware. The latest version available for Motorolla
hardware is a bit old, and emulates a 286, I believe. Since I found this
very disappointing (come on, support cross platform NeXT apps!!) I haven't
bothered to try SoftPC on my motorolla hardware. Maybe somebody else can
provide more details.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Text object on Mac?
Message-ID: <1994May6.085138.2870@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 08:51:38 GMT
Does anything like the Text object exist on the Mac? I'm mainly interested
in the ability to display RTF and include graphics cells that can be
clicked on.
Just curious. :)
Dave Griffiths
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Using the Sybase Limited version with NS 3.2
Date: 6 May 1994 12:45:13 +0100
Organization: me organised, that's a joke.
Message-ID: <2qdak9$gf8@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2qbnb6$fkc@digifix.digifix.com> <CpDLrK.336@xexos.com>
mark@xexos.com wrote in comp.sys.next.software
>In article <2qbnb6$fkc@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
>Anguish) writes:
>> What is involved in being able to use my Sybase Limited Version that came
>with
>> my original cube under the current NEXTSTEP 3.2?
>>
>> If there is a patch or something, could someone please email it to me...
>
>It just works.
That largely depends on wether you were using it in 2.1 days... if you haven't
used since you will find that you need a newer version of the Administrator.appbecause the old one forks two isql processes for each transaction.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: maretick@bambam (Scott Maretick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: profiling tool
Date: 6 May 1994 12:20:00 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Message-ID: <2qdclg$f3q@kelso.abbott.com>
Keywords: profiling
Does anyone know of a profiling tool similar to D-prof that runs
on the white box? I am aware of G-prof but am looking for more
detailed coverage (i.e., profiling to the line level vs method level).
Thanks
Scott Maretick
maretick@woodstock.abbott.com
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
Message-ID: <CpDv1F.15z@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994May5.193420.10759@noao.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 13:34:26 GMT
In article <1994May5.193420.10759@noao.edu> dkoski@noao.edu (David Koski) writes:
> In article <2qbdni$8tl@crcnis1.unl.edu>, Dan Scott <me@ienext.unl.edu> wrote:
> >Actually I was wondering much the same thing the other day. It's easy to
> >get the expansion dictionary to print matching {} or a sequence like {\bf
> >} but after it prints I really want the cursor to end up *inside* the
> >braces instead of just past them. I used to do this all the time using
> >XyWrite back in '87---isn't there some way to make edit do this? Please...
>
> Actually you can do this. If you put the << and >> characters (that is
> what they look like, they are not really less than and greater than), you
> can have fields to be filled out. I think that cmd-tab will move to the
> next one. I use this all the time to give function and file headers.
I get them via alt-shift-'(' and alt-shift-')'.
Thus a macro like
quoted this get's highlit , this gets quoted again, this you can reach via cmd-shift-n again }
pastes this into your text, selecting the stuff between the first pai of , including them.
Goto the next braced tezxt via cmd-shift-n.
great for TeX, Objective-C, you name it.
Juergen
---
Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok )
Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new generation of soap powder ?
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Message-ID: <CpDz6C.1Gn@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <CEDMAN.94May5084104@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 15:03:48 GMT
Carl, Eric,
I have been reading your posts for quite some time with pleasure as they tend to be on high level
as far as quality is concerned. So it makes me real sad to follow your religious war over editors.
Religious, because it seems to lack the perspective of reality. Are you two sure it is really the
subject of editors you continue quarreling about? Sorry to say it but on this issue I get the
impression you are back to kindergarten age (this is not ment as an insult, please). It is not
important who started it or who said what at some time. PLEASE STOP IT NOW!
After checking your attitudes towards this you might continue a technical argument over
features/functionality. But please spare us this waste of time and energy of an ongoing war on
editors.
Personally, I do not care what tools I use (or their name or company) as long as I can get my work
done in a way that I consider efficient/convenient. Is not that what computers are made for in the
first place? to help get your job done?
I will not tell you what editor I use. It is not important. The one I use today I find convenient
for the time being. I am still interested in any new software though, but I will not necessarily
switch to every new app coming up. Have not and never will.
So, I would really like to see the two of you shakehands and continue the good work you have done
over the years. There's still lots to do for a better computer environment, so let's go.
I felt this needed to be said. Followups if any should probably go to c.s.n.advocacy.
Sincerely, Juergen
---
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Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new generation of soap powder ?
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with EMACS question - termcap
Message-ID: <1994May6.114058.17605@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 6 May 94 11:40:58 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
I am revisiting an old problem now that I have the
new Emacs 4.0 for NeXTstep -
When I put up a shell and connect to the outside
world, I get a message about termcap not being
able to read the proper configuration. Also, when
I then telnet to another computer, at best, I get
control characters showing up - like ^M.
It seems that I have to do something with the termcap
file but it is not clear to me what to do, even after
spending sometime with emacs books.
Tom Herbert
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 6 May 1994 16:30:29 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2qdrb5$1d8@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu> <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>
Dave Griffiths (dave@prim.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
: >>>>>> "Garance" == Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes:
: >Garance> This whole exchange is oh so weird... Could we go back to
: >Garance> just arguing over Emacs issues?
: >
: >Yes let's do...
: >
: >Let's ask.. for the sole function of writing programs ie. source code
: >when/why would you chose to use Edit over Emacs?
: I'm choosing to continue with Edit 'cos I can't be bothered spending the
: time to learn Emacs.
Yep. This reminds me of when as a Mac user, PC dweebs would say, "So what
exactly does Microsoft Word for the Mac provide that Wordstar does not?" Of
course, I'd be polite, but after they left, I'd add 'em to my moron list.
Guys, Edit is easy to learn and easy to use. Emacs is alt-meta-control hell,
with an interface out of the early seventies. The only advantage to Emacs is
features. But in all my programming, I've never had an occasion to need any
of the features Emacs provides. Edit does most everything I've needed, and
it's far easier. Why spend years learning features you don't need?
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) UCLA CS in September |
+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------+
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk's message of Fri, 6 May 1994 09:19:16 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94May6113231@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <CEDMAN.94May5084104@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<1994May6.091916.3808@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 18:32:31 GMT
Stephen Fitzpatrick writes:
Stephen> How does software `break'?
It doesn't break, it rots.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 6 May 1994 16:21:01 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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References: <CEDMAN.94May5084104@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
> I'm just showing my age. Just as spell checkers teach people
> it's "OK" to make spelling mistakes, debuggers teach people it's
> "OK" to write code full of bugs. I grew up in an era that
> encouraged excellence and took pride in getting something done
> right the *first* time.
>
> Few people are aware of this, but EPS once was involved in the design
> of a new car. In this car the entire engine block and most other
> internal parts were encased in a block of glass making them completely
> inaccessible for repair and tuning. "In a good car", EPS said
> "nothing ever breaks."
>
> Carl Edman
I hear the car is still running, too...
:-) ;-) :-)
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 06 May 1994 20:50:57 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
Message-ID: <SOWA.94May6135057@amdew.llnl.gov>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>
<2qdrb5$1d8@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
In-reply-to: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu's message of 6 May 1994 16:30:29 GMT
>>>>> "Sean" == Sean O Luke <sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
Sean> seventies. The only advantage to Emacs is features. But in all
Sean> my programming, I've never had an occasion to need any of the
Sean> features Emacs provides. Edit does most everything I've needed,
Sean> and it's far easier. Why spend years learning features you don't
Sean> need?
Eh, you might not know how useful the features are until you try them.
--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Message-ID: <CpEMB9.HGu@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <CEDMAN.94May5084104@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1994May6.091916.3808@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 23:23:33 GMT
Stephen Fitzpatrick (sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <CEDMAN.94May5084104@capitalist.princeton.edu>
: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
: >
: > Few people are aware of this, but EPS once was involved in the
: > design of a new car. In this car the entire engine block and
: > most other internal parts were encased in a block of glass making
: > them completely inaccessible for repair and tuning. "In a good
: > car", EPS said "nothing ever breaks."
: How does software `break'?
And I quote from the Jargon:
BIT ROT n. Also BIT DECAY. Hypothetical disease the existence of which
has been deduced from the observation that unused programs or features
will often stop working after sufficient time had passed, even if
'nothing has changed'. The theory explains that bits decay as if they
were radioactive. As time passes, the contents of a file or the code in a
program will become increasingly garbled.
[...]
The term SOFTWARE ROT is almost synchronous. Software rot is the effect,
bit rot the notional cause.
(Thanks to Eric S. Raymond, editor of the Jargon File)
Never question the jargon file. Its like blasphemy or something... ;-)
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: larryd1648@aol.com (LarryD1648)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NNTP server
Date: 6 May 1994 15:24:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <2qe5gh$so@search01.news.aol.com>
I am looking for a site to ftp a nntp server software from
Thanks
Larry
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From: john@remote1.demon.co.uk (John I Stephen)
Subject: Re: SoftPC for Windows
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In article <Cp9L37.MFA@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David
Bradford) writes:
>
> Does anyone have any experience as to how fast PC apps run under
>
> SoftPC for windows on an 040/25Mhz NeXT.
>
> How fast is like a 386/40 or 486/50 or like that, OK?
Soft PC as delivered with NS 3.2 is at best poor and at worst
downright awful. Much depends upon what your expectations are and how
you intend to use it. If your PC/Windows apps are on a Novell server
then I regeret that you will be disappointed (even more so if it's
Novell 3.12 as there is a problem with NS and Novell 3.12 - but I
digress :-))
Having Insignia just "up the road" from us has been advantageous and
we now have a beta of SoftPC 4.0. This version - which has required a
mod to the mach kernel - is apparently MUCH faster. However, I cannot
verify this as my system manager advises that we cannot even achieve
reliable login to the Novell server using this version. So, we remain
with SoftPC version 3.11 (I think) which is VERY slow. How slow ?
Well, a regular DOS app which used to take about 3 seconds to load on
a 486/33 now takes >120 seconds under SoftPC on a 486/66. Windows apps
(in a window) are so slow that one believes the app to have frozen -
easy under Windows ;-)
However, Insignia and NEXT appear committed to getting it right. I
find it a bit galling that SoftPC on a PowerMac is substantially
faster - and yet the PowerMac has to emulate the Intel CISC chip...
whereas SoftPC under Intel ......
Overall, and at the moment; don't use it unless there is NO
alternative. Better still, configure the PC for dual boot so that, at
run time you decide whether to run Windows or NEXTSTEP !
John
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 06 May 1994 23:49:56 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May7004956@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>
<2qdrb5$1d8@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <SOWA.94May6135057@amdew.llnl.gov>
To: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
In-reply-to: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov's message of 06 May 1994 20:50:57 GMT
<sowa@amdew.llnl.gov> writes:
>>>>> "Sean" == Sean O Luke <sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
Sean>seventies. The only advantage to Emacs is features. But in all
Sean>my programming, I've never had an occasion to need any of the
Sean>features Emacs provides. Edit does most everything I've needed,
Sean>and it's far easier. Why spend years learning features you don't
Sean>need?
>Eh, you might not know how useful the features are until you try them.
Hear Hear, anybody seen hilit19 in action?
Man that's cool... it automatically (customizable too) will highlight
quoted text in both news and mail together will a whole heap of stuff.
Now let's see Edit.app do that :-)
hilit19 is elisp code standard in 19.22 which applies color/font
changes to text which matches patterns.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: swiet@emanon.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 07 May 1994 07:45:18 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <SWIET.94May7034521@emanon.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>
<2qdrb5$1d8@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <SOWA.94May6135057@amdew.llnl.gov>
<ROBERT.94May7004956@steffi.demon.co.uk>
In-reply-to: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 06 May 1994 23:49:56 GMT
In article <ROBERT.94May7004956@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
Hear Hear, anybody seen hilit19 in action?
Yes. That's why I use font-lock-mode instead.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of 6 May 1994 05:01:55 GMT
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May6100517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994May5.171543.384@aragorn.unibe.ch> <2qbdni$8tl@crcnis1.unl.edu>
<1994May5.193420.10759@noao.edu> <2qcj03$krc@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 14:05:16 GMT
In article <2qcj03$krc@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
2) Yes, Edit can be improved. Tell NeXT how!
Launch /NextDeveloper/Demos/BugNeXT.app
Select Topic NextApps>Edit
Set Severity=Suggestion
Of course, some of us prefer to make the improvements we need
ourselves rather than complain and wait. That is both very much
faster and incomparably more reliable than piping demands for new
features to NeXTs /dev/null. That is why some of us prefer an editor
which comes with full source and a powerful extension language and for
which tens if not hundreds of megabytes of customizations for
virtually every imaginable special purpose are publicly available.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.sys.next.software
From: ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose (Christopher Penrose)
Subject: PERL : filehandle mismatch woes
Message-ID: <1994May7.003804.22745@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: filehandle, open
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 00:38:04 GMT
Hello folks,
I am running perl-4.036 on a 3.x NeXT and I am having some
strange filehandle problems.
I open two files for writing:
open( $mixhandle, "> $mixfile" ) || die "Couldn't open mixfile!";
open( $pvchandle, "> $pvcfile" ) || die "Couldn't open pvcfile!";
within a perl script called 'tsunami'. The entire tsunami script
can be found at the end of this message. It builds two scripts: a
"mixfile" and a "pvcfile".
Perl decides to ignore one of the handles, and outputs all the data
intended for the mixfile, into the pvcfile. Here is an example of output.
mantovani.pvc is the output "pvcfile", and mantovani.mix is the output
"mixfile".
---
silvertone> tsunami mantovani.snd leaf.list
Sampling rate set to 44100.000000
Number of channels set to 2
silvertone> ls -alt mantovani.work
total 70
-rw-r--r-- 1 penrose 68122 May 6 20:09 mantovani.pvc
-rw-r--r-- 1 penrose 1024 May 6 20:09 mantovani.hoax
-rw-r--r-- 1 penrose 0 May 6 20:09 mantovani.mix
drwxr-xr-x 3 penrose 1024 May 6 20:09 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 penrose 12 May 6 20:09 mantovani -> ../mantovani
drwxr-xr-x 2 penrose 1024 May 6 20:09 .
---
Looking at the printf statements in tsunami reveals that all of the output
text is greedily eaten by mantovani.pvc, and mantovani.mix is starving.
More detailed output can be found at the end of this message.
What is more strange, is that the script works perfectly when executed
within the perl debugger:
---
silvertone> rm -rf mantovani.work
silvertone> /usr/local/bin/perl -d ~/albini/tsunami mantovani.snd leaf.list
Loading DB routines from $RCSfile: perldb.pl,v $$Revision: 4.0.1.3 $$Date:
92/06/08 13:43:57 $
Emacs support available.
Enter h for help.
main'(/Net/silvertone/b/penrose/albini/tsunami:3): $, = ' ';
# set output field separator
DB<1> c
Sampling rate set to 44100.000000
Number of channels set to 2
silvertone> ls -alt mantovani.work
total 71
-rw-r--r-- 1 penrose 49225 May 6 20:04 mantovani.pvc
-rw-r--r-- 1 penrose 18873 May 6 20:04 mantovani.mix
drwxr-xr-x 2 penrose 1024 May 6 20:04 .
lrwxrwxrwx 1 penrose 12 May 6 20:04 mantovani -> ../mantovani
-rw-r--r-- 1 penrose 1024 May 6 20:04 mantovani.hoax
drwxr-xr-x 3 penrose 1024 May 6 20:04 ..
silvertone> which tsunami
~/albini/tsunami
silvertone> which perl
/usr/local/bin/perl
---
Now mantovani.mix isn't quite as hungry. It received all of the data it
is supposed to.
I can't figure out if I am using filehandles incorrectly, or if my NeXT perl
binaries aren't quite kosher. Ideas anyone?
Christopher Penrose
penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu
the culprit perl script, tsunami, follows. It requires a NeXT program called
'sndinfo', and it requires a NeXT soundfile, and a notelist as input. A small
example notelist follows the script.
--cut here--
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
$, = ' '; # set output field separator
$\ = "\n"; # set output record separator
$srate = 44100;
$fftlen = 1024;
$window = 8192;
$vic_duration = 6.316;
$count = 0;
$ampl = .7;
$delay = .01;
$chandelk = .01;
$chandelb = .05;
$stereo = 1;
$leftspan = .1;
$rightspan = .9;
$janusstart = .015;
$janusend = .025;
$janussum = $janusstart + $janusend;
$vic_bicsf = 0; # boolean to indicate that the soundfile has
# a BICSF header at the end of the NeXT header
$vic_duration = -1;
$vic_format = 0; # soundfile packing format:
# 0: 16-bit shorts
# 1: Single Precision Floats
$channels = 1;
$vic_sound = $ARGV[0];
($vic_short) = split('\.', $vic_sound, 1024);
$eventlist = $ARGV[1];
@geteventlist = split('/|\.', $eventlist, 1024);
($event_short) = split('_',$geteventlist[$#getdataname], 1024);
if ( $#ARGV < 1 ) {
die "\n % tsunami subject_sound event_list random_seed\n\n";
}
if ( $#ARGV >= 2 ) {
srand($ARGV[2]);
}
else {
srand(time|$$);
}
open( SNDINFO, "/usr/bin/sndinfo $ARGV[0] |" ) ||
die "Couldn't run sndinfo: $!\n";
while ( $sndinfo = <SNDINFO> ) {
($Fld1,$Fld2,$Fld3,$Fld4,$Fld5,$Fld6,$Fld7) = split(' ', $sndinfo, 9999);
if ($Fld7 eq 'seconds') {
$vic_duration = $Fld6;
}
if ($Fld1 eq 'SamplingRate:') {
$srate = $Fld2;
}
if ($Fld1 eq 'Channels:') {
$channel = $Fld2;
}
if ($Fld1 eq 'Format:') {
if ( $Fld2 eq '16' ) {
$vic_format = 0;
}
else {
if ( $Fld2 eq 'Single' ) {
$vic_format = 1;
}
else {
die "unimaginable soundfile format\n";
}
}
}
}
close( SNDINFO );
if ( $vic_duration < 0 ) {
die "unimaginable soundfile format\n";
}
$pvcfile = $vic_short . ".pvc";
$mixfile = $vic_short . ".mix";
$call = "mkdir " . $vic_short . ".work;";
system $call;
chdir( $vic_short . '.work' );
open( $mixhandle, "> $mixfile" ) || die "Couldn't open mixfile!";
open( $pvchandle, "> $pvcfile" ) || die "Couldn't open pvcfile!";
$call = "ln -s ../" . $vic_short;
system $call;
if ($stereo) {
$call = "F2 " . $vic_short . ".hoax;";
system $call;
}
else {
$call = "F1 " . $vic_short . ".hoax;";
system $call;
}
chdir( '..' );
open( EVENTLIST, $eventlist ) ||
die "Couldn't open eventlist: $!\n";
chdir( $vic_short . '.work' );
printf $mixhandle "output(\"%s\")\n", $vic_short . ".hoax";
while ($grabber = <EVENTLIST>) {
($Fld1,$Fld2,$Fld3) = split(' ', $grabber, 9999);
++$count;
$startpoint = ($vic_duration - ($janussum + $Fld2)) * rand(1.);
$endpoint = $startpoint + (($vic_duration - $startpoint) * rand(1.));
$currentdur = $endpoint - $startpoint;
if ( $currentdur < $janussum ) {
$endpoint = $startpoint + $janussum;
}
if ($Fld2 > $currentdur) {
$decim = ($window / 8.) / ($Fld2 / $currentdur);
$interp = $window / 8.;
if ($interp < 1) {
$interp = 1;
}
if ($decim < 1) {
$decim = 1;
}
if ($channel == 1) {
printf $pvchandle "fromsnd -b%f -e%f %s | janus -b%f -e%f | \\
pvc -R%d -N%d -M%d -D%d -I%d -F%f | \\\n", $startpoint, $endpoint,
$vic_sound, $janusstart, $janusend,
$srate, $fftlen, $window, $decim, $interp, $Fld3;
}
else {
printf $pvchandle
"fromsnd -b%f -e%f %s | stereo2mono | janus -b%f -e%f | \\
pvc -R%d -N%d -M%d -D%d -I%d -F%f | \\\n", $startpoint, $endpoint,
$vic_sound, $janusstart, $janusend,
$srate, $fftlen, $window, $decim, $interp, $Fld3;
}
}
else {
$decim = $window / 8.;
$interp = ($window / 8.) * ($Fld2 / $currentdur);
if ($interp < 1) {
$interp = 1;
}
if ($decim < 1) {
$decim = 1;
}
if ($channel == 1) {
printf $pvchandle "fromsnd -b%f -e%f %s | janus -b%f -e%f | \\
pvc -R%d -N%d -M%d -D%d -I%d -F%f | \\\n", $startpoint, $endpoint,
$vic_sound, $janusstart, $janusend,
$srate, $fftlen, $window, $decim, $interp, $Fld3;
}
else {
printf $pvchandle
"fromsnd -b%f -e%f %s | stereo2mono | janus -b%f -e%f | \\
pvc -R%d -N%d -M%d -D%d -I%d -F%f | \\\n", $startpoint, $endpoint,
$vic_sound, $janusstart, $janusend,
$srate, $fftlen, $window, $decim, $interp, $Fld3;
}
}
$current = $vic_short . $count;
printf $pvchandle "tosf -R%d -c%d -of %s;\n", $srate, $channels, $current;
printf $pvchandle "sndpeak %s;\nrescale -P %d -r %s;\n\n",
$current, $ampl * 32767., $current;
printf $mixhandle "input(\"%s\")\n", $current;
if ($stereo) {
if ($leftspan > $rightspan) {
$span = $rightspan;
$rightspan = $leftspan;
$leftspan = $span;
}
$span = $rightspan - $leftspan;
$location = ( $span * rand(1.) ) + $leftspan;
$chandel = rand(1.) * $chandelb;
if ( $location < .5 ) {
$del0 = ( rand(1.) * $delay ) + $chandelk + $chandel;
$del1 = rand(1.) * $delay;
}
else {
$del0 = rand(1.) * $delay;
$del1 = ( rand(1.) * $delay ) + $chandelk + $chandel;
}
printf $mixhandle "mix(0,%f,dur(0),%f,0)\n", $Fld1+$del0, $location;
printf $mixhandle "mix(0,%f,dur(0),%f,1)\n", $Fld1+$del1, (1.-$location);
}
else {
printf $mixhandle "mix(0,%f,dur(0),1,0)\n", $Fld1;
}
}
#$call = "sh " . $vic_short . ".pvc;";
#system $call;
#$call = "uumix < " . $vic_short . ".mix;";
#system $call;
--cut here--
Here is a note list:
--cut here--
1.921560 1.764000 0.549379
1.923560 0.168000 0.872085
1.924560 1.128000 1.646279
3.596560 0.222000 1.553880
3.701560 0.167000 1.384349
3.781560 0.113000 1.233315
3.862560 0.160000 1.164094
--cut here--
bad output in the mantovani.pvc file from the perl script tsunami:
---
silvertone> head mantovani.work/mantovani.pvc
output("mantovani.hoax")
fromsnd -b9.430988 -e12.456625 mantovani.snd | stereo2mono | janus -b0.015000
-e0.025000 | \
pvc -R44100 -N1024 -M8192 -D1024 -I406 -F0.776940 | \
tosf -R44100 -c1 -of mantovani1;
sndpeak mantovani1;
rescale -P 22936 -r mantovani1;
input("mantovani1")
mix(0,1.906647,dur(0),0.538561,0)
mix(0,1.936802,dur(0),0.461439,1)
silvertone> head mantovani.work/mantovani.mix
silvertone>
---
good output in the mantovani.pvc and mantovani.mix files from the perl
script tsunami run in the perl debugger:
---
silvertone> head mantovani.work/mantovani.pvc
fromsnd -b18.522883 -e21.428040 mantovani.snd | stereo2mono | janus -b0.015000
-e0.025000 | \
pvc -R44100 -N1024 -M8192 -D1024 -I423 -F0.776940 | \
tosf -R44100 -c1 -of mantovani1;
sndpeak mantovani1;
rescale -P 22936 -r mantovani1;
fromsnd -b17.252165 -e18.959331 mantovani.snd | stereo2mono | janus -b0.015000
-e0.025000 | \
pvc -R44100 -N1024 -M8192 -D971 -I1024 -F0.923942 | \
tosf -R44100 -c1 -of mantovani2;
sndpeak mantovani2;
silvertone> head mantovani.work/mantovani.mix
output("mantovani.hoax")
input("mantovani1")
mix(0,1.905722,dur(0),0.636793,0)
mix(0,1.961771,dur(0),0.363207,1)
input("mantovani2")
mix(0,1.903843,dur(0),0.813484,0)
mix(0,1.954601,dur(0),0.186516,1)
input("mantovani3")
mix(0,1.964299,dur(0),0.195102,0)
mix(0,1.911617,dur(0),0.804898,1)
---
Christopher Penrose
penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@cs.Colorado.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PERL : filehandle mismatch woes
Date: 7 May 1994 13:12:43 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <2qg44b$q56@lace.Colorado.EDU>
References: <1994May7.003804.22745@princeton.edu>
Keywords: filehandle, open
Originator: tchrist@wraeththu.cs.colorado.edu
:-> In comp.lang.perl, ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose (Christopher Penrose) writes:
:I am running perl-4.036 on a 3.x NeXT and I am having some
:strange filehandle problems.
:
:I open two files for writing:
:
:open( $mixhandle, "> $mixfile" ) || die "Couldn't open mixfile!";
:open( $pvchandle, "> $pvcfile" ) || die "Couldn't open pvcfile!";
:
:within a perl script called 'tsunami'. The entire tsunami script
:can be found at the end of this message. It builds two scripts: a
:"mixfile" and a "pvcfile".
:
:Perl decides to ignore one of the handles, and outputs all the data
:intended for the mixfile, into the pvcfile. Here is an example of output.
:mantovani.pvc is the output "pvcfile", and mantovani.mix is the output
:"mixfile".
These days, perl5 says:
Can't use an undefined value as a symbol reference at - line 1.
Which is unclear in the extreme. I really wish Perl would fill
in the filehandle for you, but Larry's got decent reasons for
avoiding that. (I can still wish. :-)
Anway, here's something frmo the FAQ:
Normally, files are manipulated something like this (with appropriate
error checking added if it were production code):
open (FILE, ">/tmp/foo.$$");
print FILE "string\n";
close FILE;
If instead of a filehandle, you use a normal scalar variable with file
manipulation functions, this is considered an indirect reference to a
filehandle. For example,
$foo = "TEST01";
open($foo, "file");
After the open, these two while loops are equivalent:
while (<$foo>) {}
while (<TEST01>) {}
as are these two statements:
close $foo;
close TEST01;
but NOT to this:
while (<$TEST01>) {} # error
^
^ note spurious dollar sign
This is another common novice mistake; often it's assumed that
open($foo, "output.$$");
will fill in the value of $foo, which was previously undefined.
This just isn't so -- you must set $foo to be the name of a valid
filehandle before you attempt to open it.
--
Tom Christiansen tchrist@cs.colorado.edu
"Will Hack Perl for Fine Food and Fun"
Boulder Colorado
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Faxing for free part II (flexfax)
Date: 7 May 1994 14:28:57 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qg8j9$n8p@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <2qcqpu$i2h@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
In article <2qcqpu$i2h@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul R. Tognato-Haddad) writes:
> Howdy,
>
> In my continuing search for free fax software for my NeXTstation,
> I've been trying to compile flexfax. I have the latest gcc, the
> latest libg++, the latest ghostscript, but I still can't get flexfax
> to compile. Has anyone been able to compile this beast? If so
> please mail me.
>
> Flexfax for anyone interested is a generic unix faxing program that
> allows sending/receiving faxes from a variety of machines and
> modems. Its available anonymous ftp from sgi.com in the sgi/fax/
> directory.
>
> Now if I could just figure out how to compile it I'll be real happy.
>
I'm also working on a port. I just heard about FlexFax and got all the
essentials. Sounds like an interesting package, but I'm not yet sure
what a port will entail. If anybody (i.e. Paul) is intersted in getting
a small email group together, I'd be happy to donate my machine as the
listserver (version 6.0 installed). I think that free faxing
(especially with the number of modems that flexfax supports) would be a
great thing for the NeXT community. I know that it probably wouldn't be
integrated into the NeXT environment very well, but thats OK. Better
than no fax ability at all (yes, I know about B&W, but as a student
can't justify the big $ for something I would rarely use. Just bumms me
out to see my fax/modem being used only for data).
- Steve
--
====================================================================
Stephen Perkins |
Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Michigan State University |
"There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Faxing for free part II (flexfax)
Date: 7 May 1994 15:12:50 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qgb5i$15kq@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <2qg8j9$n8p@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
In article <2qg8j9$n8p@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu
(Stephen Perkins) writes:
> a small email group together, I'd be happy to donate my machine as the
> listserver (version 6.0 installed). I think that free faxing
> (especially with the number of modems that flexfax supports) would be
As a followup to my own post, I have created a mailing list (and
hopefully a future archive) for people interested in the flexfax port to
the NeXT. The list is managed by a listserver. If you would like to
subscribe, please send email to:
listserv@sidney.cps.msu.edu
with the phrase:
subscribe nextflexfax John M. Doe
(with the appropriate name of course ;).
Messages to the list should be directed to:
nextflexfax@sidney.cps.msu.edu
- Steve
--
====================================================================
Stephen Perkins |
Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Michigan State University |
"There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLURP: Anyone sucessfully install un NS_FIP
Date: 7 May 1994 15:41:36 GMT
Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qgcrg$3ru@rain.psg.com>
I am setting up INN1.4 and was told that SLURP is a ggod way of receiving
newfeeds. Anyone been able to compile on NS_FIP?? If so how?
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help with Mathematica and Gourmet.app
Date: 7 May 1994 16:32:20 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qgfqk$ej5@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2q9f5o$pf6@nwfocus.wa.com>
Dean Johnson writes
[]
[]I am trying to get Gourmet.app to work with Mathematica 2.1, but it gives
me
[]a warning about Mathematica executable will not launch properly. Mma
works
[]fine from command line and launching via the icon. Does anybody use
Gourmet
[]that could help?
[]
Most likely you have not created the proper directory structure for Gourmet
to access the Mathematica Kernel. Gourmet was created for the old set-up,
in which Mathematica was in /NeXTApps because it came bundled on every
machne. Become root in a shell, and execute the following commands (you
can even cut and paste them right in)
mkdirs /NextApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel/NeXT
cd /NextApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel
ln -s /LocalApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel/Display Utilities
cd NeXT
ln -s /usr/bin/math mathexe
This is, if I remember right, a FAQ (in a typical case of scientific
mis-attribution, I supplied the information to someone, who then got HIS
name associated with it in the FAQ sigh.... :)
Hope this helps --- Tom
--
===========================================================================
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Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PERL : filehandle mismatch woes
Date: 7 May 1994 17:51:50 GMT
Organization: mal franz, mal anna
Message-ID: <2qgkfm$di5@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <1994May7.003804.22745@princeton.edu>
Keywords: filehandle, open
Fcc: $/u/k/Mailboxes/NNoutgoing.mbox/mbox
Apparently-To: koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de
In article <1994May7.003804.22745@princeton.edu>,
Christopher Penrose <ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose> wrote:
>
>Hello folks,
>
>I am running perl-4.036 on a 3.x NeXT and I am having some
>strange filehandle problems.
>
>I open two files for writing:
>
>open( $mixhandle, "> $mixfile" ) || die "Couldn't open mixfile!";
>open( $pvchandle, "> $pvcfile" ) || die "Couldn't open pvcfile!";
>
You have to assign the variable $mixhandle some arbitrary string,
e.g. "MIXFH", same for $pvchandle. The way you're doing it, both files
are associated with an empty filehandle. So the second open is a close
for the first on.
Good luck,
Andreas
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PERL : filehandle mismatch woes
Date: 7 May 1994 17:51:55 GMT
Organization: mal franz, mal anna
Message-ID: <2qgkfr$di6@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <1994May7.003804.22745@princeton.edu>
Keywords: filehandle, open
Fcc: $/u/k/Mailboxes/NNoutgoing.mbox/mbox
Apparently-To: koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de
In article <1994May7.003804.22745@princeton.edu>,
Christopher Penrose <ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose> wrote:
>
>Hello folks,
>
>I am running perl-4.036 on a 3.x NeXT and I am having some
>strange filehandle problems.
>
>I open two files for writing:
>
>open( $mixhandle, "> $mixfile" ) || die "Couldn't open mixfile!";
>open( $pvchandle, "> $pvcfile" ) || die "Couldn't open pvcfile!";
>
You have to assign the variable $mixhandle some arbitrary string,
e.g. "MIXFH", same for $pvchandle. The way you're doing it, both files
are associated with an empty filehandle. So the second open is a close
for the first on.
Good luck,
Andreas
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Still having CD audio problems
Date: 7 May 1994 17:53:48 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2qh2lc$feh@acme.gatech.edu>
Ok.. I got the PASPlus driver as everyone suggested. And now Root can
play CD's and I can hear it through my sound card..but.. My user account
still can't do it. I still get "CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer" from cdaudio.util.
I'm getting REALLY frustrated. I don't want to have to log in as root
everytime I want to play a cd.
John
--
John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu)
Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu)
========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: lasmith@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is AWK on NeXT 3.2 a dud? Does Manpath still work as Environment Variable?
Date: 7 May 1994 21:46:19 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qh27b$5v9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
I have been given awk programs that repeatedly do not work (on 3.0 or 3.2).
Also, using the environment variable MANPATH appears ineffectual with 3.2.
Any similar experiences, and suggested solutions (for the latter),
Lones Smith,
MIT
--
Lones A. Smith, Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
v-mail: (617) 253-0914
e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff)
lasmith@athena.mit.edu (if all else fails)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Is AWK on NeXT 3.2 a dud? Does Manpath still work as Environment Variable?
Message-ID: <CpGKBG.MBx@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2qh27b$5v9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 00:35:39 GMT
Lones A Smith (lasmith@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) wrote:
: I have been given awk programs that repeatedly do not work (on 3.0 or 3.2).
: Also, using the environment variable MANPATH appears ineffectual with 3.2.
I don't know about awk problems, since I use Perl, now...
I do, however use the MANPATH variable, and it works for me (Intel/NS3.2)
Mine is set to /usr/man:/usr/local/man:/LocalDeveloper/man, and all three
directories work...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tiff to GIF converter
Date: 8 May 1994 04:00:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <2qho56$sqb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Keywords: TIFF GIF
Dear folks,
I am looking for a utility that can convert NeXT style
color TIFF files (no alpha) into GIF files
suitable for use and display with a Mac Mosaic client.
Any hints where such an animal might be found?
I have ImageViewer but its JPEG/GIF save options
are greyed-out when the input file was tiff.
Thanks!
--
Name: Will Russell
E-mail: claspac@cats.ucsc.edu
Voice: 408-459-2060
FAX: 408-429-0146
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MAB MH (Mail Handler) for NS?
Date: 8 May 1994 06:21:42 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <2qi0dm$stn@news.iastate.edu>
Keywords: MAB, MH, mh, mail
I'd appreciate if anyone can tell me if there is a MAB MH avaiable on the
net.
Thanks.
Chris
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is AWK on NeXT 3.2 a dud? Does Manpath still work as Environment Variable?
Date: 08 May 1994 08:34:41 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May8093441@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2qh27b$5v9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <CpGKBG.MBx@cunews.carleton.ca>
To: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
In-reply-to: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca's message of Sun, 8 May 1994 00:35:39 GMT
To the original poster.
Get yourself gawk...
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
Date: 8 May 1994 10:45:39 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2qifsj$drq@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <1994May5.171543.384@aragorn.unibe.ch> <2qbdni$8tl@crcnis1.unl.edu> <1994May5.193420.10759@noao.edu> <2qcj03$krc@nic-nac.CSU.net> <CEDMAN.94May6100517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94May6100517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>Of course, some of us prefer to make the improvements we need
>ourselves rather than complain and wait.
I prefer Yamamoto telling me "that's a good suggestion; it will
be in the next release" (which means next year) to Stallman's
"fuck you--I don't support NEXTSTEP" (which means never).
If you want to maintain a divergent source tree with "tens if not
hundreds of megabytes of customizations for virtually every
imaginable special purpose" for all eternity, you're welcome to
your own personal hell.
-=EPS=-
From: heading@signal.dra.hmg.gb (Anthony Heading)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
Date: 8 May 1994 15:13:12 +0100
Organization: Defence Research Agency, UK
Message-ID: <2qis1o$1iq@chopin.dra.hmg.gb>
References: <1994May5.171543.384@aragorn.unibe.ch> <2qcj03$krc@nic-nac.CSU.net> <CEDMAN.94May6100517@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2qifsj$drq@nic-nac.csu.net>
In article <2qifsj$drq@nic-nac.csu.net>, Eric P. Scott <eps@cs.sfsu.edu> wrote:
>In article <CEDMAN.94May6100517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>>Of course, some of us prefer to make the improvements we need
>>ourselves rather than complain and wait.
>
>I prefer Yamamoto telling me "that's a good suggestion; it will
>be in the next release" (which means next year) to Stallman's
>"fuck you--I don't support NEXTSTEP" (which means never).
OK, OK, we get the message. Edit has been out for a year or two
now, and lots of people may well be happily using it. All this
discussion, however, is because Emacs is now available too, and
so those of us who like Emacs, or need to edit consistently on
multiple platforms, or need huge amounts of customizability, or
whatever, are gamboling about as happy as spring lambs, content
with life and very grateful to Carl and the others.
So we really don't need or want you to rant irritably about how
the old ways were best, and how the whole project is doomed to
failure, and generally trying to cast a shadow of gloom over
anything and everything to do with this piece of software.
In short, shut up.
Anthony.
--
AJR Heading, Defence Research Agency, St. Andrews Road, Great Malvern, UK
Email: ajrh@signal.dra.hmg.gb Tele: +44 684 896066 Fax: +44 684 894384
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tiff to GIF converter
Date: 8 May 1994 16:17:40 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qj3b4$lds@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>
References: <2qho56$sqb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <2qho56$sqb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu
(Jas-Russell) writes:
>
> Dear folks,
>
> I am looking for a utility that can convert NeXT style
> color TIFF files (no alpha) into GIF files
> suitable for use and display with a Mac Mosaic client.
>
> Any hints where such an animal might be found?
> I have ImageViewer but its JPEG/GIF save options
> are greyed-out when the input file was tiff.
>
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Name: Will Russell
> E-mail: claspac@cats.ucsc.edu
> Voice: 408-459-2060
> FAX: 408-429-0146
Poskanzer's pbmplus does it. [I don't recall what ftp site
has it. Somebody help here! Or, find it with Archie.]
For example if you have a file L.tiff which
has color in it. Use the pbmplus tools as follows:
tifftopnm < L.tiff > L.ppm
ppmtogif < L.ppm > L.gif
and there you have it! [Note, however, that if L.tiff has NO color
in it, then tifftopnm will produce a pgm file, not a ppm file. Then
you convert to pbm, then xbm, which is Mosaic-readable.]
--Bob--
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From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep --- What about non-experts?
Date: 8 May 1994 19:59:15 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2qjgaj$sq3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <CEDMAN.94May3090559@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Hi,
Okay, so there's been this discussion of how wonderful
Emacs is ... but consider a "typical" nonuser as myself.
I use EDIT for LaTeX, and the most basic features that
I take advantage of are
1. highlighting text, and <-- done with menus in Emacs.app
(a) cutting and/or pasting it; <-- done with menus in Emacs.app
(b) "(un)nesting" it <-- ??
(c) "matching" braces, etc. <-- ??
2. "Find" and "search" capabilities: universally replacing text,
or going to some specified line <-- ??
3. User pipes (eg. I switch dos2unix or back) <-- ??
4. Spell-checking
IU have no doubt that all these and zillions of
variations on them can be done in Emacs, by writing the
correct sequence of magical words in the buffer, but if
these (and maybe a cuple other) simple facilities were
available as in EDIT _at the menu/mouse level_, then
there would be little barrier to entry to Emacs by the
vast majority of EDIT users, as myself.
I feel now about Emacs how I once felt about TeX: It is
no doubt an infinitely superior system, but I have no time
for the steep learning curve that is required just to
enter the system and not lose my old level of functionality.
Fortunately, LaTeX came along and solved my dilemma about TeX.
Would that Emacs.app would be to Emacs as LaTeX is to TeX
(or some would hope, perhaps, as Sci Word is to TeX, but I
would not ask for that much.)
BTW
Now I heard very vaguely of something called AUC-TeX
that (and with 50% chance I am misrepresenting this)
integrates LATeX grammar recognition into Emacs.
Some may point oput that this makes Emacs all the better
companion to LaTeX. Maybe so (after the learning curve).
[But does this work with Emacs.app on the NeXT?]
Sincerely,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: cgeyer@aol.com (Cgeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Comm terminal
Date: 8 May 1994 16:48:04 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <2qjj64$85n@search01.news.aol.com>
Is there any terminal out there for NEXT (for Intel) that is shareware or free?
I tried pcomm but that did not work for some reason. tip is not very helpful
since it does not have any real protocols. Suggestions anyone?
Christopher Geyer
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep --- What about non-experts?
Date: 08 May 1994 21:11:09 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94May8141109@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CEDMAN.94May3090559@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<2qjgaj$sq3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In-reply-to: lones@lones.mit.edu's message of 8 May 1994 19:59:15 GMT
In article <2qjgaj$sq3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Okay, so there's been this discussion of how wonderful
> Emacs is ... but consider a "typical" nonuser as myself.
> I use EDIT for LaTeX, and the most basic features that
> I take advantage of are
LaTeX is indeed one of the reasons for using *Emacs*...
> 1. highlighting text, and <-- done with menus in Emacs.app
> (a) cutting and/or pasting it; <-- done with menus in Emacs.app
Works the same: Cmd-c and Cmd-v
> (b) "(un)nesting" it <-- ??
Huh?
> (c) "matching" braces, etc. <-- ??
Emacs as well.
> 2. "Find" and "search" capabilities: universally replacing text,
> or going to some specified line <-- ??
Emacs superior
> 3. User pipes (eg. I switch dos2unix or back) <-- ??
Emacs as well
> 4. Spell-checking
I use ispell 3.x inside Emacs. It knows LaTeX so you wont have to
teach the spell-checker all commands. Plus it supports multiple
languages.
> IU have no doubt that all these and zillions of
> variations on them can be done in Emacs, by writing the
> correct sequence of magical words in the buffer, but if
You are absolutely correct that all this can be done in Emacs. The
learning curve may or may not be a problem, but I would certainly
recommend trying if you use LaTeX a lot.
> BTW
> Now I heard very vaguely of something called AUC-TeX
> that (and with 50% chance I am misrepresenting this)
> integrates LATeX grammar recognition into Emacs.
> Some may point oput that this makes Emacs all the better
> companion to LaTeX. Maybe so (after the learning curve).
> [But does this work with Emacs.app on the NeXT?]
AUC-TeX exists and is extremely good. You get formatting, automatic
syntax check, TAB completions (including search of bibliography
files), outline mode (like chapters in Mathematica), automatic
highlighting, insertion of all commonly used commands, ability to run
LaTeX on regions, and so on. For the non-english there is support for
other languages. I don't think the learning curve is a problem at all
(except that someone needs to set it up for you). There are people in
this lab that hate computers, but use Emacs solely for AUC-TeX.
So if you use LaTeX, check it out. I have tried all the shareware
tools, TeXworks, TeXmenu, etc, but none come close to the FREE
Emacs/AUC-TeX.
AUC-TeX is available from iesd.auc.dk.
--
---
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC?
Date: 9 May 1994 00:57:11 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2qk1p7$n6c@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
I'm about to order SoftPC (I'm on an Intel NS 3.2
system) to run Wordperfect for Windows 5.1. The demo
mode seems to run it well. I need footnotes capabilities,
which is my *only* reason for touching SoftPC.
Would I be better off buying WP for Nextstep/FIP?
Even though it is no longer supported? The price is
$299 currently. Pages by Pages does not yet do footnotes
well.
Opinions?
Thanks
L.A. Brooks
University of Maryland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Is AWK on NeXT 3.2 a dud? Does Manpath still work as Environment Variable?
Message-ID: <CpIEAq.1F5@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <2qh27b$5v9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 00:20:49 GMT
Lones A Smith writes
>I have been given awk programs that repeatedly do not work (on 3.0 or 3.2).
Like several Unix utilities, NeXT's version of awk is hopelessly out of date.
It doesnt even implement functions.
The solution is to get gawk from the ftp archives which works fine with NS.
And while you're at it, send mail to bug_next@next.com suggesting
that they upgrade to gawk in the next release.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Comm terminal
Message-ID: <CpIMIK.7Kq@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2qjj64$85n@search01.news.aol.com>
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 03:18:19 GMT
Cgeyer (cgeyer@aol.com) wrote:
: Is there any terminal out there for NEXT (for Intel) that is shareware or free?
: I tried pcomm but that did not work for some reason. tip is not very helpful
: since it does not have any real protocols. Suggestions anyone?
If you want solid free stuff, try kermit. It's all character-based, but
its standard; runs on every OS I've ever used. It's what I use. Source from
watson.columbia.edu, NeXT FAT binaries from cs.orst.edu.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.sys.next.software
From: lwall@netlabs.com (Larry Wall)
Subject: Re: PERL : filehandle mismatch woes
Message-ID: <1994May9.024528.17165@netlabs.com>
Keywords: filehandle, open
Organization: NetLabs, Inc.
References: <1994May7.003804.22745@princeton.edu> <2qg44b$q56@lace.Colorado.EDU>
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 02:45:28 GMT
In article <2qg44b$q56@lace.Colorado.EDU> tchrist@cs.colorado.edu (Tom Christiansen) writes:
: These days, perl5 says:
:
: Can't use an undefined value as a symbol reference at - line 1.
:
: Which is unclear in the extreme.
This is far less extremely unclear than what it said before, which was
nothing. If you can figure out a reasonable way to make it clearer,
more power to you, but it's running some rather generic code at that point.
You could just as easily be saying
*{$undefined} = *foo;
and it'd be rather irresponsible to start talking about filehandles there.
: I really wish Perl would fill
: in the filehandle for you, but Larry's got decent reasons for
: avoiding that. (I can still wish. :-)
s/ish/hine/ if $count++ > 10;
Larry
From: joe@coyote.rain.org (Joe McDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PERL : filehandle mismatch woes
Date: 8 May 1994 23:05:55 -0700
Organization: Regional Access Information Network (RAIN)
Message-ID: <2qkjs3$gv6@coyote.rain.org>
References: <1994May7.003804.22745@princeton.edu> <2qg44b$q56@lace.Colorado.EDU> <1994May9.024528.17165@netlabs.com>
Keywords: filehandle, open
In article <1994May9.024528.17165@netlabs.com>
lwall@netlabs.com (Larry Wall) writes:
>
>In article <2qg44b$q56@lace.Colorado.EDU>
tchrist@cs.colorado.edu (Tom Christiansen) writes:
>: I really wish Perl would fill
>: in the filehandle for you, but Larry's got decent reasons for
>: avoiding that. (I can still wish. :-)
>
> s/ish/hine/ if $count++ > 10;
ha! ha! <laughing out loud>, this is the funniest perl post I've seen yet!
--
-= Joe McDonald (joe@rain.org) =-
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages footnotes (was SoftPC?)
Date: 9 May 1994 07:22:39 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qkobv$1gf@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2qk1p7$n6c@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
In article <2qk1p7$n6c@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L.
Anathea Brooks) writes:
> Pages by Pages does not yet do footnotes well.
Could you please provide more information for those of us out here trying
to decide on a word processor? What is wrong with Pages footnotes?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: Alexander.Hauer@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Alexander Hauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Project Managment Tool wanted
Date: 9 May 1994 10:29:23 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <2ql3a3$1oim@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Keywords: project managment tool
Hallo NeXTSTEP World,
my boss asked me to have a look for some EASY TO USE but CAPABLE project
managment software for NeXTSTEP. I would be glad if you could help with some
suggestions.
Please be so kind and reply also by e-mail because i can not allways read this
newsgroup.
Thanx in advance
Alex.
___________________________________________________________________
Alexander A. Hauer Institute of Flightmechanics and Flightcontrol
Sytemadministration University of Stuttgart
Phone: (+49)711-121-1432 Forststrasse 86
Fax: (+49)711-634856 D-70176 Stuttgart
E-Mail: hauer@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de Fed. Rep. of Germany
___________________________________________________________________
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages footnotes (was SoftPC?)
Date: 9 May 1994 11:29:06 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2ql6q2$4au@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <2qk1p7$n6c@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2qkobv$1gf@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <2qkobv$1gf@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>,
Todd Takken <takken@raven.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>In article <2qk1p7$n6c@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L.
>Anathea Brooks) writes:
>
>> Pages by Pages does not yet do footnotes well.
>
>Could you please provide more information for those of us out here trying
>to decide on a word processor? What is wrong with Pages footnotes?
>
>-- Todd Takken
>takken@leland.stanford.edu
Sure. Unfortunately, Pages, otherwise excellent, doe
footnotes wrong. Specifically, there is only a limited
amount of space for them, so if you have say 5 footnotes
on one page, the actual fifth note *gets pushed to the
next page*, although its # is in the body text of the
page before. This is not how it's supposed to be.
Pages wrote:
Footnotes have the lowest precedence. If you have any
fixed items towards the bottom of the page, the
reference frame will go to the next page. Also, if you
place a footnote at the bottom of a page and there isn't
enough room for the reference frame to grow up, it will
also be bumped to the next page. There is a error on the
side of not allowing the page to reflow multiple times
to keep footnote and its reference on the same page.
Footnotes generally *do* take highest priority, as
you'll see long footnotes taking as much space as
needed, and body text shrinking accordingly. In no
case that I have seen are notes numbered and printed
on any other page but that on which their reference numbers
appear.
Pages will fix this (in a month they've sent me 3 complete
disk sets as they fixed bugs, with no charge!) but this
particular problem is tough - they said not this
year!!!
I'm dying for simple, working footnote capability on
this NS/Intel system. Can't work without it. PasteUp
isn't out yet (vers 2.1 wasn't really usable, as anyone
who has tried I think will admit). I don't think the
new 2.5 has footnotes, but we'll see.
I'm at the point where I'm about to order SoftPC
and run WP/Windows 5.1 (which appears to work fine)
or the old and unsupported WP/Nextstep. I miss WriteNow
v. much - footnotes were effortless and correct.
Sigh. I wish I had a Mac, sometimes.
Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins
From: dag@tanuki.twics.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SYSTEM INTEGRATOR NEEDED
Message-ID: <1994May9.114533.5856@tanuki.twics.com>
Date: 9 May 94 11:45:33 JST
Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access]
SYSTEM INTEGRATOR NEEDED
Chicago Pneumatics, a manufacturing company in Utica,
NY, owned by Swedish multi-national tool maker Atlas
Copco, is planning an upgrade to their computer system.
In this context, they are interested in evaluating
solutions using NEXTSTEP. I have been asked by the man
in charge of this to post a request to interested VARs
and system developers/integrators to get in touch with
Chicago Pneumatics for a discussion on the various
possibilities for a fruitful project. If your company is
doing administrative/manufacturing-related
NEXTSTEP development, please contact Jim LaCombe at
Chicago Pneumatics, via phone at (315) 792-2768 or via
FAX at (315) 792-2838. He can also be reached at
72122.1166@CompuServe.COM.
send
From: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP HP Fortran
Date: 9 May 94 10:26:29
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Message-ID: <KAOKI.94May9102629@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
References: <PFKEB.94May5072422@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
<CpC9Bv.Is7@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In-reply-to: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu's message of Thu, 5 May 1994 16:47:54 GMT
>>>>> On Thu, 5 May 1994 16:47:54 GMT, kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu said:
kelley> Nntp-Posting-Host: kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
kelley> In article <PFKEB.94May5072422@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
kelley> pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) writes:
> How about f2c, the Fortran to C translator?
kelley> in our case, we have a large model that is written in fortran.
kelley> it will not be converted to another language, at least not
kelley> in the near future, for a number of reasons.
kelley> f2c does work well for small programs i've found, but i've
kelley> had trouble with larger ones. but that's assuming you want
kelley> to transform it to c in the first place.
Well, you got my attention! What kind of problems do you have?
Do you use f77 or f77 with extensions such as VMS fortran?
(eg. records).
Also, what is wrong with converting it to C? From the user
perspective, I think it makes no difference. A script is supplied with
f2c distribution (source, called fc) which gives you a front-end which
makes it indistinguishable from a compiler from the user end.
I have used f2c over the years to various netlib codes and others and
have yet to see a problem. (as long as it conforms to f77 standards)
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
Not posting from the usual node, due to problems.
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PNI just expired on me.
Date: 9 May 1994 14:29:14 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qlhbq$aur@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
I'm using one of the PNI beta releases and have become desperately dependent
on its functionality. Yesterday my license key expired. Does anyone know
how I can:
-- relicense my existing software (would be nice not to have to reconfigure
new software).
or
-- get the latest PNI beta that has a license key thats
good at least a few months into the future? I checked cs.orst.edu
and the PNI1.7 beta has a license key that expired yesterday (at least
that's what the readme file says).
or
-- must I buy the commercial version? I had planned to buy a commercial
version of this excellent software, but wanted to wait until it had
passed out of beta. If PNI is no longer freely available, can someone
tell me what the pricing is and the fastest method to get my hands on
it.
Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Still having CD audio problems
Message-ID: <CpJ7s1.2Gy@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <2qh2lc$feh@acme.gatech.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 10:57:36 GMT
In article <2qh2lc$feh@acme.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) writes:
>
>
> Ok.. I got the PASPlus driver as everyone suggested. And now Root can
> play CD's and I can hear it through my sound card..but.. My user account
> still can't do it. I still get "CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer" from cdaudio.util.
>
> I'm getting REALLY frustrated. I don't want to have to log in as root
> everytime I want to play a cd.
Probably need to set permissions of the executable in the app-wrapper to be suid.
Check chmod man-page if this does not sound familiar.
Should be in the FriendlyFAQ also?
Juergen
---
Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok )
Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new generation of soap powder ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Tiff to GIF converter
Message-ID: <CpJ7uD.2Hs@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <2qj3b4$lds@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 10:59:00 GMT
Cannot ImageViewer.app do the same thing, but with a graphical interface?
Your choice, lucky you.
Juergen
---
Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok )
Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new generation of soap powder ?
From: tsscke@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Pecs Galore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: test
Date: 9 May 1994 09:14 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <9MAY199409145872@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Test
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Test (Ignore - sorry)
Date: 9 May 1994 09:21 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <9MAY199409211679@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
The U's newserver is acting up and this is a test. To demonstrate the
problem to the s.a.'s.
Sorry.
Don
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: bar coding program
Message-ID: <1994May9.085150.18527@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 9 May 94 08:51:50 MDT
References: <CpAz8z.3D2@cunews.carleton.ca> <CpD2J3.LKt@news.cis.umn.edu>
Organization: Utah State University
In article <CpD2J3.LKt@news.cis.umn.edu>, jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
> In article <CpAz8z.3D2@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris
> Saldanha) writes:
>> Clifford R. Bowers (russ@physical27.chem.ufl.edu) wrote:
>>
>> : Does anybody know of a bar coding program, commercial or public domain,
>> : that runs on the NeXT? Thanks.
>>
>> Bar-A-Coda, by Hot Technologies.
>>
> Ya, there's one called BarCodes by joe freeman probly available on either
> orst, sonata or informatik. It acts as a Services also which is cool.
Bar-a-Coda by Hot Technologies will also work via services, and it includes
about every barcode type you could want. You can export the finished barcode
as a 'n'DPI Tiff, or as an EPS file. They also make some neat barcode object
palettes. I have been very happy with their products.
======================================================================
John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred)
Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
[Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously."
======================================================================
From: brent@shady.remote.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PNI just expired on me.
Date: 9 May 1994 16:29:25 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qlod5$q7h@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <2qlhbq$aur@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2qlhbq$aur@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
> Does anyone know how I can:
> -- relicense my existing software or
> -- get the latest PNI beta that has a license key thats
> good at least a few months into the future? I checked cs.orst.edu
> and the PNI1.7 beta has a license key that expired yesterday
PNI1.8 beta was just released but is buggy. It will be fixed soon (I hear)
but if you can't wait you can use it's demo license key with 1.7.
Unless it's been removed it should be on the usual ftp sites (in
submissions, probably).
--
Brent Swekla "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca the day after tomorrow" - Mark Twain
From: brent@shady.remote.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PNI just expired on me.
Date: 9 May 1994 16:29:59 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qloe7$q7i@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <2qlhbq$aur@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2qlhbq$aur@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
> Does anyone know how I can:
> -- relicense my existing software or
> -- get the latest PNI beta that has a license key thats
> good at least a few months into the future? I checked cs.orst.edu
> and the PNI1.7 beta has a license key that expired yesterday
PNI1.8 beta was just released but is buggy. It will be fixed soon (I hear)
but if you can't wait you can use it's demo license key with 1.7.
Unless it's been removed it should be on the usual ftp sites (in
submissions, probably).
--
Brent Swekla "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca the day after tomorrow" - Mark Twain
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: More on the WWW thing
Message-ID: <CpJp5G.H6r@ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: World Wide Web, WWW, Mosaic, OmniWeb, Omni, WSJ
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 17:12:51 GMT
With the recent discussions regarding the World Wide Web (WWW) and
clients such as Mosaic and OmniWeb, I thought I would share with you
an some notes from today's Wall Street Journal article, "Silicon
Graphics' Clark Sets Up Firm To Provide Internet Operating System".
James Clark, founder and former chairman of Silicon Graphics Inc. (SGI)
is forming a new company called Mosaic Communications Corp. which will
develop a commercial version of Mosaic.
Many companies are seeking licenses (from NCSA) to develop commercial
versions of Mosiac; other companies include:
o Spry Inc. Seattle, WA
o Santa Cruz Operation Santa Cruz, CA
o Quarterdeck Office Systems Santa Monica, CA
Other WWW efforts (I don't know if they have a license or not) include:
o Netcom On-Line Communication Services Inc. (San Jose, CA) is
developing Net Cruiser (to be introduced in June)
o O'Reilly & Associates (Sebastopol, CA), the computer-book
publisher, along with Spry will introduce Internet-in-a-Box.
o General Magic Inc. (Mountain View, CA) is working on Project
Cybersurfer to be bundled with its Magic Cap OS.
o Microsoft Corp is thinking about bundling an Internet navigator
with its Windows OS "and undermining everyone."
o Cornell University is developing Cello
I found the the reference of Mosaic as an "Internet operating system"
interesting, but I guess it fits (if you push really hard).
Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
PS. pontifications regarding the future of NeXT wrt to WWW should probably
be forwarded to csn.advocacy; discussions about OmniWeb should probably
be forwarded to csn.software.
From: ben@muttley.eecs.berkeley.edu (Ben Haze Bonham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tektronix emulator?
Date: 9 May 1994 17:41:12 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Message-ID: <2qlsjo$75s@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi -
Is there a pd or shareware tektronix terminal emulator around somewhere?
(4010, etc...)
Thanks,
-Ben
From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tiff to GIF converter
Message-ID: <murao.94May913311@blueslab>
Date: 9 May 94 18:31:01 GMT
References: <2qho56$sqb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Information Processing Center
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0
Hi,
Sorry, this is not an answer. I'm also looking for a utility
for converting tiff files into gifs. Please post here any
information for it.
Thanks in advance.
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Hajime Murao <murao@kobe-u.ac.jp> -*- NeXTmail gladly accepted !!
Graduate School of Science and Technology, Kobe University, Japan
Phone 078-881-1212 (ext.2807) / FAX 078-803-0168 / NIFTY NAA01617
From: pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com (Ronald Pepper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Image Viewers?
Date: 9 May 1994 18:06:09 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Corporation
Message-ID: <2qlu2h$6gv@uudell.us.dell.com>
Dear All,
What is the closed thing to XV on next. I want something that I
can have a script display images in the background and scale them to fit.
Thanks in advance,
Ron.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
Message-ID: <1994May9.162512.5429@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <CEDMAN.94May6100517@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2qifsj$drq@nic-nac.csu.net> <2qis1o$1iq@chopin.dra.hmg.gb>
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 16:25:12 GMT
I've not seen Emacs for NS, so this may be a dumb idea, BUT last year I
wrote a NS front-end for trn. It interpreted the escape sequences that
trn sends to a vt100 via curses. The great advantage of course is that
you're not dependent on the trn source code (it used pseudo ttys). Would
this approach have worked with emacs?
Dave Griffiths
PS: I gave up on the front-end eventually 'cos it was too inflexible.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PNI just expired on me.
Date: 09 May 1994 15:08:07 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May9160807@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2qlhbq$aur@netnews.upenn.edu>
To: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
In-reply-to: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu's message of 9 May 1994 14:29:14 GMT
I do not speak for Louie or Transsys software. However, I believe it's
appropriate to mention this under the circumstances. Disfunctional
SLIP software can be a significant problem and it would appear that
Louies away at the moment. Hopefully I won't get in any trouble for
mentioning this.
What follows is a message Louie posted to the beta list. I suggest
that those of your who have an expired 1.7 read it.
--
I've received reports of problems experience in the PNI 1.8 release
due to some missing files and the advise given about changing the
name of the startup config files to pni0.config-auto. This latter change
confuses the pnibusy script. A workaround is to go back to using
a name like /etc/pni/config/pni.config, and create a file
/etc/pni/config/autostart which lists the full pathnames to all of the
config files you'd like to be auto started.
The best course of action is the just re-register the existing 1.7
software with the new license key string as such:
(as root)
rm /etc/pni/keyfile
/etc/pni/pnid -R j2yNjIuKiXeHh4WGrcI
I'll make a new release with these bugs fixed this early next week
once I return from Interop.
I'm really sorry about these problems, and I'll try to do a better job
of catching this stuff in the future.
Louis A. Mamakos
TransSys, Inc.
--
I'm guessing but the licensing string is probably the one from 1.8.
ie. expires in August. or perhaps some time sooner but I'm sure Louie
would have corrected things by then.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is NeXTStep Intel "OPTMIZED"/recompiled for the Pentium??
Date: 9 May 1994 20:50:43 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2qm7n3$r7m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
(I just errantly posted this earlier to comp.sys.next.hardware.)
I am trying to decide between a DX4/100 chip and a Pentium 60.
Now the issue of whether NS takes advanatage of the 32 bit structure,
etc. bites (no pun intended). What's the lowdown here?
Sincerely curious,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tk & Cub-X?
Date: 9 May 1994 14:11 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <9MAY199414112219@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Hi. I've just installed Tcl and Tk on my NeXT running NS3.2. I notice that
co-Xist's brand of mwm has some problems with programmatically resizing
windows (namely the Tk pack command executed in wish does not resize windows
correctly). How does Tk run in Cub-X's mwn? [Also Pencom support seems
slower than I'd like. Personal Opinion. Your mileage may vary ...]
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP-HP Fortran
Date: 9 May 1994 21:18:05 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qm9ad$sk0@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <2qb6o8$o3b@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu# writes
# Check out the NAG FORTRAN 90 compiler for NEXTSTEP. It will work on any new
# NEXTSTEP platform as it translate FORTRAN 90 code to C, and compiles with
# the native C-compiler. This will allow FORTRAN code to run on the new HP
# platform without having to wait on Absoft to port their compiler.
#
# - Tim -
#
# --------------------------------------------------------------
# Tim Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu
# Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270
# Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064
# NeXTmail ok!
Who's NAG and where can one get this compiler?
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Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing
telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department
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From: andym@hq.af.mil (Andy McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tiff to GIF converter
Date: 9 May 1994 20:42:59 GMT
Organization: 7th Communications Group, Wash D.C.
Message-ID: <2qm78j$97q@hq.hq.af.mil>
References: <CpJ7uD.2Hs@euler.hnv.icem.de>
In article <CpJ7uD.2Hs@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen
Sell) writes:
> Cannot ImageViewer.app do the same thing, but with a graphical
interface?
ImageViewer 0.9e (latest??) will go from GIF to TIFF, but not the other
way.
> Your choice, lucky you.
> Juergen
> ---
> Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok )
> Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
> BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
> == What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you
think of
> == is a new generation of soap powder ?
Andy
--
Lt Andy McConnell Communications Engineer
andym@hq.af.mil 7th Communications Group, USAF, Pentagon
---NeXTMail accepted and encouraged---
(Opinions expressed are solely those of the author and not the USAF)
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Using the Sybase Limited version with NS 3.2
Date: 9 May 1994 21:26:12 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
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References: <2qdak9$gf8@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson writes
[RN] That largely depends on wether you were using it in 2.1 days... if you
[RN] haven't used since you will find that you need a newer version
[RN] of the Administrator.appbecause the old one forks two isql processes
[RN] for each transaction.
Is there a newer version of the Administrator app? How can I (a licensed user)
get a copy of it?
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Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing
telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: How is Pangea doing?
Message-ID: <CpK19C.5rn@ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: Pangea, Mindshare, Openstep
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 21:34:23 GMT
Does anyone know how Pangea Corp. is doing? Their products,
MindShare, MindShareMail, and their Pangea Groupware Engine (PGE)
look quite impressive. At least from the press release it appears
to support much of the functionality of Lotus Notes, and I am not
aware of any other commercial software which compares so well to Notes.
Unfortunately, our research group lives almost exclusively on Suns,
although that may soon change. Anyways, I am hoping Pangea is
successful and develops an OpenStep version which will interoperate
with the NEXTSTEP version as well. At that point, I suspect more
door will be open to them (maybe including ours).
Thanks,
Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
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From: schmi097@gold.tc.umn.edu (A J Schmidt)
Subject: extreme newbie question.Ack!
Message-ID: <schmi097.768519783@gold>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 21:43:03 GMT
Hello. I was wondering if anyone could give me any inof on this whole
next system...advantages, disadvantages, general cost, etc. I know this
is extremely basic, but any comments, etc. is greatly appreciated.
Chris Schmidt
schmi097@gold.tc.umn.edu
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From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2qlobn$avf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Control: cancel <2qlobn$avf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: 9 May 1994 21:49:15 GMT
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cancel <2qlobn$avf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software
This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #7 (NOV)
--
Brent Swekla "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca the day after tomorrow" - Mark Twain
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer Bug? (was Re: PNI just expired on me.)
Date: 9 May 1994 21:56:39 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
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References: <2qloe7$q7i@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sorry about the triple post but NewsGrazer told me the post had failed
because "the included text exceeded the added text" or something. After
that it gave me successively shorter messages, still claiming the post had
failed.
Is this a known bug? Is there anything I can do about it?
--
Brent Swekla "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca the day after tomorrow" - Mark Twain
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP-HP Fortran
Date: 9 May 1994 22:16:44 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Distribution: world
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References: <2qm9ad$sk0@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
In article <2qm9ad$sk0@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan
<telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> writes:
> Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu# writes
> # Check out the NAG FORTRAN 90 compiler for NEXTSTEP. It will work on any
new
> # NEXTSTEP platform as it translate FORTRAN 90 code to C, and compiles with
> # the native C-compiler. This will allow FORTRAN code to run on the new HP
> # platform without having to wait on Absoft to port their compiler.
> #
> # - Tim -
> #
> # --------------------------------------------------------------
> # Tim Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu
> # Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270
> # Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064
> # NeXTmail ok!
>
> Who's NAG and where can one get this compiler?
>
Numerical Algorithms Group, Inc
1400 Opus Place, Suite 200
Downers Grove, IL 60515-5702
Phone: (708) 971-2337
Fax: (708) 971-2706
Account Manager: Tom Ryan
ryan@nag.com
>From their literature:
"The NAGWare f90 compiler uses C as its target language, thus enabling us to
rapidly port it to new systems. Don't be fooled, the NAGWare f90 compiler is a
true compiler, not a pre-processor."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Tiff to GIF converter
Message-ID: <CpK4HF.BKq@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2qho56$sqb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 22:44:03 GMT
Jas-Russell (claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu) wrote:
: I am looking for a utility that can convert NeXT style
: color TIFF files (no alpha) into GIF files
: suitable for use and display with a Mac Mosaic client.
PixelMagician. It's a commercial app. Does tons of formats (r+w), and has
excellent batch conversion features...
Try emailing info@bacchus.com
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: swiet@emanon.cs.jhu.edu's message of 07 May 1994 07:45:18 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94May9153625@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>
<2qdrb5$1d8@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <SOWA.94May6135057@amdew.llnl.gov>
<ROBERT.94May7004956@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<SWIET.94May7034521@emanon.cs.jhu.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 22:36:24 GMT
Alexander Swietlicki writes:
Alexander> In article <ROBERT.94May7004956@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Alexander> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
Robert> Hear Hear, anybody seen hilit19 in action?
Alexander> Yes. That's why I use font-lock-mode instead.
Do you have a font-lock setup for gnus? I've turned off hilit19 for the
places I have font-lock (font lock does *so* much better on C/C++/lisp code)
mode, but I do like a little bit of color everywhere. Although hilit19's
default colors are pretty weak...
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Test (Ignore - sorry)
Date: 09 May 1994 19:30:47 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
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References: <9MAY199409211679@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
To: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
In-reply-to: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu's message of 9 May 1994 09:21 MST
<citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> writes:
>The U's newserver is acting up and this is a test. To demonstrate the
>problem to the s.a.'s.
>Sorry.
>Don
is there a reason why you cannot use alt.test?
Alt.test will mail me back a response indicating that your post was
received.
Please don't use these groups for test messages.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
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From: root@net23 (Operator)
Subject: NEED SERIAL DRIVER BAD!!!
Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News)
Organization: St. Peter's College, US
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 00:42:32 GMT
Message-ID: <CpK9yx.7Bn@spcuna.spc.edu>
I need a serial driver that will support 57600 on serial port /dev/cua and use
at 28800 modem to capacity. This needs to work with the PNI-1.8 beta slip
software and I need it VERY QUICKLY. Mux keeps crashing the slip connection,
with slip errors of runt packets, and this brings down the link
I will give anyone an account on our system who can find me software to do this
We have NS/FIP on a 486/dx2 66 w/ 16550 uart compatible serial ports
Nick
mail ANYTHING to razor@net23.com, do not post on the newsgroups
From: tuyo@mumford (Mike M. Tuyo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Setting Up A Dial-In Modem
Date: 10 May 1994 03:16:02 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2qmu9i$540@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I Would like to setup a modem on my NeXTStation '40 box, so I can
dial into it when I'm not home. I've don't what the DigiLib said to
do, but it doen't seem to work. I constantly see the send&recv lights
flashing. Can anyone give me some assistance? I would really
appreciate it.
Mike Tuyo
tuyo@mumford.mit.edu
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From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley)
Subject: Re: SoftPC for Windows
Message-ID: <1994May9.160224.19013@bozell.com>
Sender: news@bozell.com
Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc.
References: <940506220418.223AACaL.john@remote1>
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 16:02:24 GMT
In article <940506220418.223AACaL.john@remote1> john@remote1.demon.co.uk (John
I Stephen) writes:
> Soft PC as delivered with NS 3.2 is at best poor and at worst
> downright awful. Much depends upon what your expectations are and how
> you intend to use it. If your PC/Windows apps are on a Novell server
> then I regeret that you will be disappointed (even more so if it's
> Novell 3.12 as there is a problem with NS and Novell 3.12 - but I
> digress :-))
[remainder of poster's philippic deleted]
Coming to the defense of SoftPC for NEXTSTEP, I say that the performance of
locally-installed DOS and Windows applications is remarkably zippy, and has
proven to be quite acceptable to the users in our organization. The previous
poster's problems with SoftPC are centered around a single issue: the
throughput of the IPX/SPX support that Insignia has bundled with the NEXTSTEP
version of SoftPC.
My understanding is: In the current release of SoftPC for NEXTSTEP, the IPX/SPX
support is provided by layering a DOS-based IPX stack on top of the NetWare for
UNIX Client (NUC) module that NeXT bundles with NEXTSTEP release 3.X. Because
of the way that NUC is implemented (as a loadable kernel-server), other
processes do not have direct access to the qualifying IPX/SPX network frames.
Instead, the only way that Insignia could achieve IPX/SPC support for DOS was
to implement a *polling* system, where SoftPC queries the NUC lks thirty times
each second if an IPX/SPX packet has arrived!
Naturally, this scheme gets in the way of "acceptable" performance of
IPX/SPX-based applications under SoftPC. This is why, in the next release of
SoftPC (due this summer), the people at both Insignia and NeXT have worked
together to create a way that SoftPC can dispense with polling the NUC process,
considerably speeding up the IPX/SPX throughput of SoftPC.
I believe that it does a disservice to prospective users of SoftPC, as well as
to readers of this newsgroup, to imply that the entire SoftPC product is
"downright awful" because of a single aspect of the product which is less than
acceptable. Many organizations (ourselves included) find that SoftPC serves
very well in its role of giving NEXTSTEP users access to DOS and Windows
applications while preserving the native NEXTSTEP working environment.
--
Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com
NEXTSTEP veteran | +1 214 830 2273 vox
Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax
Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
From: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 9 May 94 14:07:38
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Message-ID: <KAOKI.94May9140738@rn1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>
<2qdrb5$1d8@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
In-reply-to: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu's message of 6 May 1994 16:30:29 GMT
>>>>> On 6 May 1994 16:30:29 GMT, sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) said:
Sean> NNTP-Posting-Host: zapotec.math.byu.edu
Sean> Dave Griffiths (dave@prim.demon.co.uk) wrote:
Sean> : In article <ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
Sean> : >Let's ask.. for the sole function of writing programs ie. source code
Sean> : >when/why would you chose to use Edit over Emacs?
Sean> : I'm choosing to continue with Edit 'cos I can't be bothered spending the
[...]
Sean> Guys, Edit is easy to learn and easy to use. Emacs is alt-meta-control hell,
Sean> with an interface out of the early seventies. The only advantage to Emacs is
Sean> features. But in all my programming, I've never had an occasion to need any
Sean> of the features Emacs provides. Edit does most everything I've needed, and
Sean> it's far easier. Why spend years learning features you don't need?
This is not meant as a criticism of Edit or Edit users. I think
Edit.app is very nice and quite customizable.
Yet I use Emacs all the time now. Why?
For people who have the luxury of working on NS console all day,
Edit.ap is fine. In my case, I work on Sparc's, HP's at work,
sometimes using ascii terminals and a NeXT at home,
emacs works on any unix machine, even from ascii terminals.
that's why I use it. I used to use vi all the time for the same
reason. The reasons I switched were
1. better integration with mail
2. multiple undo's (unnecessary if you don't make mistakes, I make a
lot;)
3. better integration with news
I still can't move the point (cursor) faster than in vi, but using
both is a pain and vip-mode confuses me immensly ;-)
In many ways, emacs is a carryover from the ansi terminal days. It can
handle multiple windows (I guess buffers, so they are called) and cut
and paste in between, which on an ascii terminal is extremely useful.
With everyone using X-terminals or NeXT consolee or whatever, some of
the impetus is gone. (all IMHO, of course)
Hey, but I like it, at least for now.
Use it all the time. Matter of taste really.
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
Not posting from the usual node, due to problems.
From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can't get Mouse-X to work!
Date: 10 May 1994 03:43:34 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Computer Teaching Labs
Message-ID: <2qmvt6$3qe@wea.eel.ufl.edu>
I'm having trouble getting the MouseX-X11R5 server to work on my color
Turbo Nextstation. All the X11/bin, X11/lib files, etc. are installed
correctly, and I'm launching X from the "Xfe.app" front end.
The problem is that the video memory apparently isn't being mapped
correctly... the top-left window that Xinit opens appears as a series
of upward-right slanting diagonal bars (about 10 degree slope). I can
start up clients fine, but the display is completely mangled! Moving
the mouse cursor vertically also results in diagonal motion along
these same slant lines...
I've checked the "Turbo nextstation" box on Xfe's prefs. panel, but
that seems to make no difference (same behavior as without). Any
idea what's gonig on here?
Thanks for your time...
--
______
\ / //////////////////////////////////////////////
\ / / Alexandra Griffin /// acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu /
\/ //////////////////////////////////////////////
--
______
\ / //////////////////////////////////////////////
\ / / Alexandra Griffin /// acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu /
\/ //////////////////////////////////////////////
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: $$ matching in Edit? (Hints on using Edit for NS)
In-Reply-To: dave@prim.demon.co.uk's message of Mon, 9 May 1994 16:25:12 GMT
To: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May9210514@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
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<2qis1o$1iq@chopin.dra.hmg.gb> <1994May9.162512.5429@prim.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 01:05:14 GMT
In article <1994May9.162512.5429@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes:
I've not seen Emacs for NS, so this may be a dumb idea, BUT last year I
wrote a NS front-end for trn. It interpreted the escape sequences that
trn sends to a vt100 via curses. The great advantage of course is that
you're not dependent on the trn source code (it used pseudo ttys). Would
this approach have worked with emacs?
Yes, and there was an old interface which used this very approach.
This worked ok for plain text Emacs 18. But for Emacs 19 with fonts,
colors, multiple windows, menus, built-in cut and paste, mousing,
complicated composite keystrokes, requesters and the other interface
niceties, all of which have no ASCII stream equivalent this would have
been an unspeakable hack. That is why the author of that interface
(Michael Brouwer) and I got together to write an Emacs which has
NeXTstep in the blood and not just as an enhanced terminal layer.
It turned out that emacs calls a set of relatively high level terminal
routines to display on a dumb terminal. Each of those function was
later equipped with a hook into which emacs under X could put
functions which use X. All we did was put another set of functions
into this hook which in turn manipulated a NS environment. Actually
we got that to work relatively quickly after less than a month of
work. Since then I've spent most of my emacs time adding new things
to emacs which NS users expect, but which really don't have any X
equivalent.
Carl Edman
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From: john@remote1.demon.co.uk (John I Stephen)
Subject: Re: SoftPC?
Cc: tech_support@pages.com
In-Reply-To: <2qk1p7$n6c@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
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Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 06:04:19 +0000
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> Date: 9 May 1994 00:57:11 GMT From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L.
> Anathea Brooks) Subject: SoftPC?
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm about to order SoftPC (I'm on an Intel NS 3.2 system) to
> run Wordperfect for Windows 5.1. The demo mode seems to run
> it well. I need footnotes capabilities, which is my *only*
> reason for touching SoftPC.
>
> Would I be better off buying WP for Nextstep/FIP? Even
> though it is no longer supported? The price is $299
> currently. Pages by Pages does not yet do footnotes well.
>
> Opinions?
>
I would strongly advise against this. I am not sure what aspect you
are unhappy about Pages' footnotes but I am sure it's nothing
comparted to the pain of running SoftPC; at least in its present
release. SoftPC 4.0 has the promise of being better, but at this
moment stay away. Interesting though that you relate Pages and
WordPerfect in the same context as they are very different products.
Pages has a sole mission in life (:-)) and that is to produce
beautifully formatted documents. Word Perfect is a standard WP that
has the capability of such production but whether or not you achieve
that is very "hit or miss" depending upon your experience and
patience. Pages does what it sets out to do very well indeed.
In a word; go for Pages !
--
John I. Stephen
4, Elm Road, john@remote1.demon.co.uk
Farncombe, Godalming,
Surrey. GU7 3SW
UK
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 10 May 1994 02:36:35 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2qna1j$i84@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving
the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon
as they become available.
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will
be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
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Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
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cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: os9@bga.com (Michael R. M. Cheselka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: ftpable ppp for the NeXT out there?
Date: 10 May 1994 02:30:52 -0500
Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates
Message-ID: <2qnd7c$hep@lia.bga.com>
The file next-ppp.tar.Z in /pub/ppp/next at merit.edu is a bit old.
The files are date stamped, after untarring, at Oct '91, which is eons
ago in compu-years. It is supposed not to compile under 3.0, and I
have no reson to doubt my source, but surely there is someone out
there with a newer( same) or different( better) implementation.
If there is, please share this info with the rest of us.
Thank You!
--
cheselka@donna.rtf.utexas.edu N5UVV Michael R. M. Cheselka
os9@gnu.ai.mit.edu Hangs out on 145.21mhz 400 W. 34th. St. #103
os9@bga.org and 147.18mhz Austin, TX 78705-1331
os9@io.com W (512) 472-9549v 4pm-6pm,M-F H (512) 452-9412v 24hrs
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.windows.x
Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.94May10100626@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Control: cancel <ROBERT.94May10100626@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: 10 May 1994 09:14:54 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May10101454@steffi.demon.co.uk>
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tiff to GIF converter -- FREE one available
Date: 10 May 1994 05:20:10 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2qnu5q$ij4@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2qho56$sqb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <CpK4HF.BKq@cunews.carleton.ca>
Jas-Russell wrote:
: I am looking for a utility that can convert NeXT style
: color TIFF files (no alpha) into GIF files
: suitable for use and display with a Mac Mosaic client.
OmniImage/OmniImageFilter was just released in v3.0, and now supports
reading and writing of about 30 image types (give or take). It is
also quite a bit faster (compiling -O2 really helps), and finally works
equally well on white or black hardware.
It still supports automatic image filtering into programs like Diagram2
and Mail and Edit (just drag in GIFs and you can see them!), includes
a workspace inspector, and has a keen-o previewing app much like Preview.
In fact, some people may think we've ripped off Preview's icon. To these
scoffers we say... well, maybe.
They are available from ftp.omnigroup.com, in /pub/software. They
work together, so make sure you get both OmniImageFilter-3.0.pkg.tar
and OmniImage-3.0.pkg.tar. (Yes, two packages, because they have to
install in two different places. Blame NeXT, not us.)
We'll put them on the archive sites after they've been more thoroughly
tested; we only just built the 3.0 version on Monday. (So, stay away
if you're allergic to beta, although actually we've been using them
internally for a long time.)
Best of all, they're just darn free. Awfully free.
-Wil Shipley
President, Omni Development, Inc.
From: pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com (Ronald Pepper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Gator for NeXTStep on Intel???
Date: 10 May 1994 13:49:33 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Corporation
Message-ID: <2qo3dd$55s@uudell.us.dell.com>
Does anyone have it?
Thanks,
Ron.
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA
M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT
M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q
M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($1O97,@86YY;VYE
A(&AA=F4@:70_7`I<"E1H86YK<RQ<"EP*4F]N+EP*"GT*
`
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Clumsy academic policy...
Date: 10 May 1994 14:29:59 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <2qo5p7$8j8@news.iastate.edu>
Well... I've bought WriteUp, PasteUp and SuperDebugger with student
discount. They never asked me for proof on student. Probably, they can
figure out from my e-mail address that I'm 99% from the academic field.
But now, when I tried to buy Mesa, I can't buy it from e-mail as I did. I
have to mail my copy of student ID and driver license... Geezzz... this is
too troublesome for me...
Anyone wants to sell me software via e-mail? >:)
Sorry for the little complaint.
Chris
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 10:54:27 EDT
From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Message-ID: <94130.105427HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X on an ND
Hi:
I've been told that X will not run on an ND system. Can anyone verify or
refute this? I recall it was in a letter from one of the dealers of an
X-emulator, but that doesn't mean the competition doesn't support the ND!
Thanks for any information.
Rob Harrap
Harrap@geol.queensu.ca
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: ftpable ppp for the NeXT out there?
Date: 10 May 1994 17:39:44 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2qogt0$7kn@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <2qnd7c$hep@lia.bga.com>
In article <2qnd7c$hep@lia.bga.com>,
Michael R. M. Cheselka <os9@bga.com> wrote:
>The file next-ppp.tar.Z in /pub/ppp/next at merit.edu is a bit old.
>The files are date stamped, after untarring, at Oct '91, which is eons
>ago in compu-years. It is supposed not to compile under 3.0, and I
>have no reson to doubt my source, but surely there is someone out
>there with a newer( same) or different( better) implementation.
>
>If there is, please share this info with the rest of us.
>
I suggest Morning Star tech's PPP. telnet to ftp.morningstar.com
It costs money, but it's a great product. I use it and it works great.
It's in /pub/ppp, with the pricing in /pub/pricing/PriceList.txt
Yes, they have government and academic discounts.
I used the freeware SLIP/PPP, and found it lacking with features. You get
what you pay for.
--
*** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University ***
Gun control isn't about guns, it's about control.
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Bug? (was Re: PNI just expired on me.)
Date: 10 May 1994 18:29:30 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qojqa$q1v@news.duke.edu>
References: <2qmbin$e56@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Brent Swekla writes
> Sorry about the triple post but NewsGrazer told me the post had failed
> because "the included text exceeded the added text" or something. After
> that it gave me successively shorter messages, still claiming the post had
> failed.
>
> Is this a known bug? Is there anything I can do about it?
I guess it's known to you and me, at least! I experienced this same problem
yesterday when posting; I then modified my posting and tried again, and got
"Posting failed:" with no reason whatsoever. I took its word for it; I was
chagrined to later see all my attempts up on the net. :-(
Denise
--
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Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 286-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for Mosaic for NeXTSTEP FIP with "term" support.
Date: 10 May 1994 11:24:15 -0700
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2qojgf$btn@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
I am looking for Mosaic for NeXTSTEP FIP with "term" support. Has it ever been
archived somewhere ?
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Pitak
From: diana@lusty.tamu.edu (Diana)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Bug? (was Re: PNI just expired on me.)
Date: 10 May 1994 18:58:02 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <2qolfq$1jq@news.tamu.edu>
References: <2qmbin$e56@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <2qojqa$q1v@news.duke.edu>
In article <2qojqa$q1v@news.duke.edu>,
Denise Blakeley <blake015@mc.duke.edu> wrote:
:Brent Swekla writes
:> Sorry about the triple post but NewsGrazer told me the post had failed
:> because "the included text exceeded the added text" or something. After
:> that it gave me successively shorter messages, still claiming the post had
:> failed.
:>
:> Is this a known bug? Is there anything I can do about it?
:
:I guess it's known to you and me, at least! I experienced this same problem
:yesterday when posting; I then modified my posting and tried again, and got
:"Posting failed:" with no reason whatsoever. I took its word for it; I was
:chagrined to later see all my attempts up on the net. :-(
:
Sam Streeper had the same problem over on rec.pets.cats the other
day. He didn't say whether he was using Newsgrazer, though.
Surely people at NeXT would use nothing else! ;)
Diana
--
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Everything. The difference ain't in who is a member and who
is not, but in who knows it and who don't."
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From: heinlein+@pitt.edu (David S Daniel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Need Info
Date: 10 May 1994 19:37:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <2qonpj$h6b@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
Hi all,
I was hoping someone out there would be able to give me some names and/or
phone #'s of some educational software vendors. Particularly any that
might have software which computerizes exam taking. Any help with ideas
for finding such companies would also be appreciated.
Thanks,
David D.
e-mail: heinlein+@pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Adobe Illustrator problem with placed EPS art
Message-ID: <1994May10.190858.1559@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 19:08:58 GMT
Hello World,
I am asking this for a friend. He has AI and has created a file with 8 eps
files placed on a page. He saved with epsf header and with the placed art
(eps). Inspection shows that the file indeed does contain the pictures.
But the pointers to the original eps files are also there and if the original
eps files are removed, AI suddenly cannot find the placed art anymore, even
while you can see everything is really in the file.
Now, he wants to give that file to someone who has AI on the Mac. But there you
see the same problem.
Is there a way to cure his problem?
Thanks,
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: mvjones@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HP Laserjet 4SI mx
Date: 10 May 1994 21:13:03 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Message-ID: <2qotcv$qhq@bantu.provo.novell.com>
Looking for a postscript driver for the HP laserjet 4si mx...
Anyone?
Matthew Jones
mvjones@novell.com
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X on an ND
Date: 10 May 1994 22:03:24 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2qp0bc$nl2@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <94130.105427HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
In article <94130.105427HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
<HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>I've been told that X will not run on an ND system. Can anyone verify or
>refute this? I recall it was in a letter from one of the dealers of an
>X-emulator, but that doesn't mean the competition doesn't support the ND!
Pencom's co-Xist works on ND systems.
-=EPS=-
From: mdj2050@u.cc.utah.edu (Matthew D. Jonsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I need a drawing app
Date: 10 May 1994 15:54:40 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <2qovr0$4qp@u.cc.utah.edu>
Hello,
I would appreciate some help in choosing a graphics program that is
MacDraw-esque. I want to import TIFF images and it would be great if I
could port MacDraw Pro files directly into the NeXT app.
Would you also be so kind as to point me in the direction of a demo
version?
Thanks a ton
matt
matt.jonsen@m.cc.utah.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hornkvjm@merlin.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist)
Subject: TeX
Message-ID: <HORNKVJM.94May10153958@merlin.whitman.edu>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Whitman College
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 22:39:55 GMT
Hi!
I am looking into buying NeXTStep, and I would like to know about the
availability of a good TeX. I remember having heard that one is
delivered with the OS; in that case, how good is it? And if it's bad,
where can I get a better one? (Preferably PD or educational
discount...;)
Thanks!
:>John
_______________________________________________________________________________
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ |John Hornkvist |hornkvjm@math.whitman.edu
\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ |Whitman College|hornkvjm@whitman.edu
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / |Walla Walla |UNIX, AmigaOS and...
___________________________________|_______________|___________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fo6r@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric's NeXT Fortune)
Subject: Re: Clumsy academic policy...
Message-ID: <1994May10.222944.6406@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 22:29:44 GMT
Date: 10 May 1994 14:29:59 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <2qo5p7$8j8@news.iastate.edu>
chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu wrote:
> Well... I've bought WriteUp, PasteUp and SuperDebugger with student
> discount. They never asked me for proof on student. Probably, they can
> figure out from my e-mail address that I'm 99% from the academic field.
> But now, when I tried to buy Mesa, I can't buy it from e-mail as I did. I
> have to mail my copy of student ID and driver license... Geezzz... this is
> too troublesome for me...
> Anyone wants to sell me software via e-mail? >:)
> Sorry for the little complaint.
> Chris
I hope that I am not the only one that was offended by this complaint.
You object to having to send a copy of your student ID and drivers
license to save what, 200$? You've got to be kidding! Are you
trolling for flames? Those who have to pay full price probably
aren't going to be sympathetic.
Let's say the copies cost 1$ and the FAX is 10$ and
your time 50$. Even with these ridiculously overblown prices
you still come out way, way ahead of the regular price.
Complaints about student discounts! Geezzz - talk about looking a
gift horse in the mouth....
And, since we are on the subject, thanks to everyone who provides
student discounts; without them I would not have a NeXT or software.
- eric fortune
fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu
NeXTMail OK
From: captain@arsenal.com (Andrew T. Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PGP Problems on NS/Intel 486
Date: 11 May 1994 00:41:24 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <2qp9jk$o1g@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Howdy,
I picked up the PGP23A.tar.Z package located on the ghost
distribution site. After successfully compiling the package
and going through the motions to generate my key, it gets
to the final phase where I spend 5 minutes typing in garbage
to test the interval of my keystrokes. After I type and the
computer has "beeped", it puts a series of periods and
stars on my screen and then informs me that key generation
has _failed_. It does this everytime I try to make a key.
I have tried making all three types of keys.
Could someone have tampered with the source? Is it that
I have the compiling skills of a goat?
Does anyone have a successful compilation of PGP for
NS/Intel? If so, could you please "compress" it up and place
it on the cs.orst.edu FTP server or NEXTMAIL it to me?
Thank You!
- C
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From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX
Date: 11 May 1994 02:09:16 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2qpeoc$4kc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <HORNKVJM.94May10153958@merlin.whitman.edu>
In article <HORNKVJM.94May10153958@merlin.whitman.edu> hornkvjm@merlin.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) writes:
>Hi!
>
>I am looking into buying NeXTStep, and I would like to know about the
>availability of a good TeX. I remember having heard that one is
>delivered with the OS; in that case, how good is it? And if it's bad,
>where can I get a better one? (Preferably PD or educational
>discount...;)
I've produced 4 books using TeX and dozens of articles. The
TeX system on the NeXT is the best I've ever used. I expect
that you will be very happy with it.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gil Rivlis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ispell help, please (faq?)
Date: 11 May 1994 02:57:19 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qphif$9of@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Anyone can tell me how to fix ispell 4.0 (or ioctl.h) so that
ispell 4.0 will compile on NS3.2?
The error messages I got are:
gcc -c -I. -DBSD=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_TERMIOS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1
-DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DDICT_LIB=\"/usr/local/lib/ispell\" -g term.c
term.c: In function `terminit':
term.c:222: `TCGETA' undeclared (first use this function)
term.c:222: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
term.c:222: for each function it appears in.)
term.c:230: `termio' has an incomplete type
term.c:231: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
term.c:232: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
term.c:233: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
term.c:234: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
term.c:235: invalid use of undefined type `struct termio'
term.c:237: `TCSETA' undeclared (first use this function)
term.c: In function `termuninit':
term.c:248: `TCSETA' undeclared (first use this function)
term.c: In function `termreinit':
term.c:258: `TCSETA' undeclared (first use this function)
term.c: At top level:
term.c:217: storage size of `termio' isn't known
term.c:217: storage size of `otermio' isn't known
*** Exit 1
Thanks,
Gil
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From: jimr@shorty.cs.wisc.edu (Jim Robinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CPS Statistical software for NeXT?
Date: 11 May 1994 02:53:46 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qphbq$p07@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Summary: Looking for statistical software (CPS would be neat)
I am looking for any statistical software available for NeXTstep
users, preferably one that can read in the Consumer Preference Survey
(CPS) data (commonly used with SPSS and STATPAC).
Thanks for any information.
From: bchin@is-next.umd.edu (Bill Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X on an ND
Date: 11 May 1994 04:09:09 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Ctr., Univ. of MD, College Park, MD 20742
Message-ID: <2qplp5$dt5@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <94130.105427HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA wrote:
: I've been told that X will not run on an ND system. Can anyone verify or
: refute this? I recall it was in a letter from one of the dealers of an
: X-emulator, but that doesn't mean the competition doesn't support the ND!
co-Xist does support the ND, however, X on the ND is *extremely* slow,
even with plenty of memory. It's probably not worth your time or money.
.Bill Chin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: open - a replacement for /usr/bin/open
In-Reply-To: Christian Limpach's message of 10 May 1994 14:45:25 -0400
To: Christian Limpach <Christian.Limpach@nice.ch>
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May10174747@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2qoko5$lld@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 21:47:47 GMT
In article <2qoko5$lld@digifix.digifix.com> Christian Limpach <Christian.Limpach@nice.ch> writes:
A replacement for NeXT's (since 3.1 broken) /usr/bin/open is now available.
The progressive breaking of /usr/bin/open over the releases was a
small but arguably the most annoying devolution of NS over the past
couple releases. This particular replacement fixes the problem with
all the additional features anybody could possibly ask for. If you
ever do any work from the command line, do get this program.
Good job, Christian !
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep --- What about non-experts?
In-Reply-To: lones@lones.mit.edu's message of 8 May 1994 19:59:15 GMT
To: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May10200708@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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References: <CEDMAN.94May3090559@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 00:07:08 GMT
In article <2qjgaj$sq3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes:
I use EDIT for LaTeX, and the most basic features that
I take advantage of are
1. highlighting text, and <-- done with menus in Emacs.app
Or with the mouse. Just as in Edit.
(a) cutting and/or pasting it; <-- done with menus in Emacs.app
Ditto. Or you can do it from the keyboard.
(b) "(un)nesting" it <-- ??
That emacs does automatically for you in a language sensitive fashion.
Emacs in addition allows you to set your own nesting style and can
automatically reformat old code to conform to your new style.
(c) "matching" braces, etc. <-- ??
That requires either a M-x load-library paren from the keyboard or a
(load-library "paren") in your ~/.emacs but once you've done that it
works just as well (if not better) than its Edit equivalent.
2. "Find" and "search" capabilities: universally replacing text,
Those are bound to the same command keys as in Edit (in addition to
the traditional Emacs bindings) to make the transition for Edit users
as easy as possible. Also the interactive search ability which only
Emacs offers is something which few who have tried would want to miss.
or going to some specified line <-- ??
Cmd-l, just as in Edit.
3. User pipes (eg. I switch dos2unix or back) <-- ??
You don't need dos2unix under Emacs. Emacs 19 recognizes dos line
termination automatically and replaces it with unix line termination
in your buffer (and changes it back when you write it out). Of course
if you absolutely want to run dos2unix, just use cmd-| just as in
Edit.
4. Spell-checking
It is true that Emacs doesn't have a builtin spell checker. But check
in the Edit/Spell menu and you'll find a full menu/mouse interface to
GNU ispell.
IU have no doubt that all these and zillions of
variations on them can be done in Emacs, by writing the
correct sequence of magical words in the buffer, but if
these (and maybe a cuple other) simple facilities were
available as in EDIT _at the menu/mouse level_, then
there would be little barrier to entry to Emacs by the
vast majority of EDIT users, as myself.
You are right. Emacs is not yet as user friendly as it should be. I
do appreciate your suggestion on how to make Emacs more natural to
Edit users.
Now I heard very vaguely of something called AUC-TeX
that (and with 50% chance I am misrepresenting this)
integrates LATeX grammar recognition into Emacs.
Some may point oput that this makes Emacs all the better
companion to LaTeX. Maybe so (after the learning curve).
[But does this work with Emacs.app on the NeXT?]
Yes, it does.
Carl Edman
From: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 11 May 94 01:38:32
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA
Message-ID: <SWIFT.94May11013832@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<ROBERT.94May2104018@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<1994May2.141333.731@prim.demon.co.uk>
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In-reply-to: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu's message of 6 May 1994 16:30:29 GMT
--------
In article <2qdrb5$1d8@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) writes:
Guys, Edit is easy to learn and easy to use. Emacs is alt-meta-control hell,
with an interface out of the early seventies. The only advantage to Emacs is
features. But in all my programming, I've never had an occasion to need any
of the features Emacs provides. Edit does most everything I've needed, and
it's far easier. Why spend years learning features you don't need?
-------
Yes, "the only advantage to Emacs is features." And the only good thing about
the sun is thermonuclear radiation -- pah, who needs it, right?
Emacs and Edit are almost incomparable, in the way that a four-function
calculator and Mathematica are incomparable, to exaggerate only slightly.
The question of superiority is therefore almost moot; I have Mathematica and a
calculator on the same desk, sometimes I grab one, sometimes the other.
If I had a HUM-V and a Honda, I would buy my groceries in the Honda.
Any sophisticated user of Emacs could spend hours, literally, listing the
things emacs can do that Edit can't. That doesn't make it necessarily the
right choice, but to anyone who _could_ list those things, emacs is utterly
indispensable.
With emacs, for example, you can compose English -- strings of sentences and
paragraphs -- and manipulate it in ways that make Edit feel as clunky as a
quill.
With emacs, your work can proceed seamlessly, because you never have to touch
the mouse.
With emacs, ...
Cameras have been automated, but they are still sold with manual controls.
Emacs provides an entire meta-language for manipulating symbols. That language
is growing in power, robustness, and repetoire every day. Edit is static.
If you take snapshots, a point-and-shoot is for you; to explore your medium's
potential, buy an F4. Same with the cars, same with the calculating tools,
same with your text editor.
Matt Swift
From: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem building Emacs for NS 3.0 with gcc
Date: 11 May 94 02:09:39
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <SWIFT.94May11020939@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
I have gcc installed in the most plain vanilla way, with the fixed headers
living in /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-next/2.5.4/include.
When I go to build NS Emacs (after configure m68k-next-bsd --with-ns
--with-x=no --with-gcc --prefix=/usr/local/TEST) , gcc doesn't find the UNFIXED
header files in /usr/include. It craps out on src/nsterm.m which includes
appkit/appkit.h (fixed) which in turn #import's "ActionCell.h" (and then dozens
of other things which also break). ActionCell.h is in /usr/include/appkit (ie,
it is one of the headers that did not need to be fixed by gcc), but gcc is not
finding it.
I don't have any environment variables set that would confuse gcc.
I've tried altering the makefile, adding -I's or -B's, but for some reason I
can't get the make to look in BOTH /usr/include and
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/blah-blah/include and IN THE RIGHT ORDER (ie, fixed ones
first).
No one seems to have had any trouble building NS Emacs, so can someone suggest
what I've done wrong? Or is there really a problem I need to fix in the make
with the combo of gcc and NS 3.0? (The build is fine if I do not configure
--with-gcc.)
Matt Swift
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Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Message-ID: <1994May9.093807.629@cine88.cineca.it>
From: ronchet@itnlafico.cineca.it (Marco Ronchetti)
Date: 9 May 94 09:38:06 +0100
References: <POLIFF.32.000E93B3@STDNTMAIL.LMU.EDU>
Distribution: world
In article <POLIFF.32.000E93B3@STDNTMAIL.LMU.EDU> writes:
> Does anyone know when OPENSTEP will be available for
> Solaris? (SUNOS) Also, Which venders will be supported? (software and
Hardware)
I was at the Sun "Big Bang" event in Paris two weeks ago. Jobs and Hullot
said that the port is going well, and that they expect OpenStep to be
shipped with all Sun computers at the end of second quarter, 1995.
In the meantime, NeXT is selling an "OpenStep" package, which is nothing
but NeXTStep for Intel, with a guide on what should be avoided to make
sure that the code written for NeXTStep will run on OpenStep (the main
difference being in the system calls, since OpenStep will sit on top of
a System V Unix while NeXTStep sits on a Mach emulating a Berkeley 4.3).
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From: ti@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Matthias Kloas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 11 May 1994 06:59:39 GMT
Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ
Message-ID: <2qpvor$4t6@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <POLIFF.32.000E93B3@STDNTMAIL.LMU.EDU> <1994May9.093807.629@cine88.cineca.it>
Originator: ti@buran
> In the meantime, NeXT is selling an "OpenStep" package, which is nothing
> but NeXTStep for Intel, with a guide on what should be avoided to make
> sure that the code written for NeXTStep will run on OpenStep ...
Is it somehow possible to get this guide without buying the package?
I am curious what changes will habe to be applied to existing software to
migrate from NeXTstep to OpenStep.
> ... (the main
> difference being in the system calls, since OpenStep will sit on top of
> a System V Unix while NeXTStep sits on a Mach emulating a Berkeley 4.3).
Does this mean OpenStep includes the whole AppKit? This is not how I
understood NeXTs announcement.
Matthias Kloas (ti@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de)
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Clumsy academic policy...
Date: 11 May 1994 07:08:15 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <2qq08v$4nl@news.iastate.edu>
References: <1994May10.222944.6406@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1994May10.222944.6406@midway.uchicago.edu>
fo6r@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric's NeXT Fortune) writes:
>
> I hope that I am not the only one that was offended by this complaint.
Sorry... I didn't mean to offend anyone.
> You object to having to send a copy of your student ID and drivers
> license to save what, 200$? You've got to be kidding! Are you
> trolling for flames? Those who have to pay full price probably
> aren't going to be sympathetic.
I didn't object to send in the copy of my ID. I was just saying that I
wish I could get Mesa by e-mail (the license key) as I did with other NS
software. That would be great, wouldn't it?
I can certainly stand for the two weeks processing times. And I really
appreciate the student discount companies offered us.
> Let's say the copies cost 1$ and the FAX is 10$ and
> your time 50$. Even with these ridiculously overblown prices
> you still come out way, way ahead of the regular price.
Not a matter of money. If it's a matter of money, I'll go with the other
poor student to pirate software, which is nearly free.
The matter is time. When I tried to get Mesa, I was forward from Athena
to the academic distributor and then I waited for two days before I can
get any reply. By that times, my work was done by the Mickey$hit Excel in
the computer lab. Why did I order so late? Because I have got used to
the convenience of buying software by e-mail with my credit card and get
back the license key withing a few hours.
Now, I knew I was wrong. I shouldn't depend on this anymore.
> Complaints about student discounts! Geezzz - talk about looking a
> gift horse in the mouth....
Sorry... <:( I didn't mean to offend anyone...
> And, since we are on the subject, thanks to everyone who provides
> student discounts; without them I would not have a NeXT or software.
Thank you very much for the student discounts. >:) I really appreciate
the discount.
I apologize to anyone who has felt offended by my post. Sorry...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Clumsy academic policy...
Message-ID: <CpMqA3.3tI@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <1994May10.222944.6406@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 08:30:03 GMT
In article <1994May10.222944.6406@midway.uchicago.edu> fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
[ ]
>> Well... I've bought WriteUp, PasteUp and SuperDebugger with student
>> discount. They never asked me for proof on student. Probably, they can
>> figure out from my e-mail address that I'm 99% from the academic field.
>> But now, when I tried to buy Mesa, I can't buy it from e-mail as I did. I
>> have to mail my copy of student ID and driver license... Geezzz... this is
>> too troublesome for me...
>
>> Anyone wants to sell me software via e-mail? >:)
>
>> Sorry for the little complaint.
>
>> Chris
>
>I hope that I am not the only one that was offended by this complaint.
>
>You object to having to send a copy of your student ID and drivers
>license to save what, 200$? You've got to be kidding! Are you
>trolling for flames? Those who have to pay full price probably
>aren't going to be sympathetic.
Actually, I feel he has a reasonable complaint. The academic side of NeXT is
being completely overlooked at this time. Just have a peek at the upcoming
Expo. Nothing academic about it.
Also, I don't have any proof that I have been on faculty here for 17 years!
The last time I bought educational software, I had to photocopy a page out
the Universit Calendar!
Now one can argue about academic discounts, but most forward looking companies
have them, and it's relatively easy to get with a reasonable amount of proof. I
jus walk over to our Bookstore, etc...or when NeXT was black it was understood
that someone with a .edu address and a university mailing address must have
something to do with it.
The people who are paying full price typically (1) write it off as a business
expense and (2) have already received an educational at a price which is way
below what they would charge for passing on similar knowledge.
>Let's say the copies cost 1$ and the FAX is 10$ and
>your time 50$. Even with these ridiculously overblown prices
>you still come out way, way ahead of the regular price.
>
>Complaints about student discounts! Geezzz - talk about looking a
>gift horse in the mouth....
>
>And, since we are on the subject, thanks to everyone who provides
>student discounts; without them I would not have a NeXT or software.
>
>- eric fortune
>fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu
>NeXTMail OK
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[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: trunz@inf.ethz.ch (Paul Martin Trunz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 11 May 1994 10:03:57 GMT
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Message-ID: <2qqaid$bk5@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>
References: <POLIFF.32.000E93B3@STDNTMAIL.LMU.EDU> <1994May9.093807.629@cine88.cineca.it> <2qpvor$4t6@brachio.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
In article <2qpvor$4t6@brachio.zrz.tu-berlin.de>,
Matthias Kloas <ti@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> ... (the main
>> difference being in the system calls, since OpenStep will sit on top of
>> a System V Unix while NeXTStep sits on a Mach emulating a Berkeley 4.3).
>
>Does this mean OpenStep includes the whole AppKit? This is not how I
>understood NeXTs announcement.
Well, as far as I understood the announcement, OpenStep is basically a
*specification* of an API. This API is basically the appkit, dbkit, ...
all what is necessary to make it *look* like NeXTSTEP to a programmer (who
is not interested in the really itty gritty details).
An OpenStep *implementation* will have to build something like the appkit
and obviously the NeXT implementation of OpenStep will contain it.
The free part is the *specification* however, not the *implementation*.
I hope this helps to clarify. If I misunderstood, could
someone who knows more (e.g. NeXT) correct me?
Greetings
Patru
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From: rock@pangea.com
Subject: Re: How is Pangea doing?
Message-ID: <1994May10.174837.4045@pangea.com>
Organization: Pangea Corporation
References: <CpK19C.5rn@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 17:48:37 GMT
Louis Todd Heberlein (heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know how Pangea Corp. is doing? Their products,
: MindShare, MindShareMail, and their Pangea Groupware Engine (PGE)
: look quite impressive. At least from the press release it appears
: to support much of the functionality of Lotus Notes, and I am not
: aware of any other commercial software which compares so well to Notes.
: Unfortunately, our research group lives almost exclusively on Suns,
: although that may soon change. Anyways, I am hoping Pangea is
: successful and develops an OpenStep version which will interoperate
: with the NEXTSTEP version as well. At that point, I suspect more
: door will be open to them (maybe including ours).
Thanks for your kind words, Todd.
Pangea is doing great. Our products have been well received by
customers and we remain strongly committed to NEXTSTEP. Our HP port
went smoothly and our OpenStep port is well underway.
We'll be showing some neat new features in MindShare 2.0 at
Expo--please stop by our booth for a demo!
Roger Rosner
Software Thingie Engineer
Pangea Corporation
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 11 May 1994 13:27:34 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA
Message-ID: <2qqmg6$18v@news.duke.edu>
References: <SWIFT.94May11013832@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
It seems that this thread has become a religious debate, Emacs vs. Edit, and
having nothing to do with the original subject line. May I politely suggest
that future followups be directed to c.s.n.advocacy, so that c.s.n.software can
get back to its normal subject matter?
Thanks--
Denise
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From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu (Tim Scanlon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: ftpable ppp for the NeXT out there?
Followup-To: comp.protocols.ppp
Date: 10 May 1994 18:43:09 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, fairfax va.
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Summary: that is not the newest old version
That's the version for the NeXT OS for 2.1 - 2.2. You want to ~try~
to use the copy of ppp found on the German NeXT archive at
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in the file listed as:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs/ppp.0.3.N.bs.tar.gz it's easier
to "cd next" when you ftp there. This is the version for the NeXT that Miron
Cuperman compiled that the PPP faq refrences. It DOES NOT exist on any other
archive, and the version on merit.edu is not this version, & is in fact a
revision for the NeXT that's old. The FAQ is incorrect.
As for a moer current version of PPP, well there isn't one. The one
Miron compiled is based on ppp-1.1 from what I cna tell reading the docs.
Besides being less developed, it also suffers from the bugs that are mentioned
in later releases of the PPP software. Most particlularly, the problems with
the ppp daemon that were described as it "not being robust" or some such,
basicly it dies off under ftp and other "high load" functions... In any event
it's crufty old code, but it works sort of.
What I did was to simply recompile it under 3.2. Don't use the "stock"
binaries that it comes with, as they will generate mach errors, and other
nasty behavior. This should work, not fantastic, and I've had windowserver
problems with it ocassionaly, but it does work.
I'm running it on both ends of my connection, ther remote under version
3.0 of the OS & my end under 3.2. The remote end is what gives me the most
grief, it doesn't seem to be able to handle high traffic well. (of ANY kind).
Unfurtunatly, this old code is all there is around.
I am working on porting ppp-2.1, the current release, & have had
some minor sucess with it (right after I got the ppp daemon for 2.0.4
ported, 2.1 came out and and the daemon just "built" :) Basicly however I
am not that great of a programmer and am stuck building the kernel relocatable
part that's needed for the NeXT. At the rate I'm going it'll be done one of
these years... It's not going to be real soon though as there's what amounts
to alot of work (for less skilled me) to do to port it. Someone who can program
well & understands the NeXT could probably do it pretty quickly though from what
I've seen of the code. The biggest problem being that the code base for 2.1 is
becoming increasingly less portable as revisions go on, and digging through it
is a bit tougher because of this. On the other hand as time goes on it seems that
there are more OS ports & flavors to draw on, so that helps some..
If you hear of anyone else working on this let me know, the thought of
duplication of effort here isn't something that makes me jump for joy, and I'm
hoping someone else out there is working on it too.
Tim Scanlon
tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CPS Statistical software for NeXT?
Date: 11 May 1994 14:17:02 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
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References: <2qphbq$p07@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
In article <2qphbq$p07@spool.cs.wisc.edu> jimr@shorty.cs.wisc.edu (Jim
Robinson) writes:
> I am looking for any statistical software available for NeXTstep
> users, preferably one that can read in the Consumer Preference Survey
> (CPS) data (commonly used with SPSS and STATPAC).
This is somewhat out of date now, but may be helpful to you and others seeking
statistical software:
-------------statistical software for NeXT
This is a summary of information about statistics packages for the
NeXT computer. Send corrections, addition, etc. to
Hal.Varian@umich.edu and I will update.
Commercial
----------
S -- ATT Software. This is the New S. Doesn't have interactive graphics; just
dumps to PostScript files and read with Preview. At one time cost was $800
for source code, $10 per cpu license fee, but they seem to change their policy
every week or so.
S-plus -- requires X windows. Contact mktg@statsci.com 206-283-8802.
Send e-mail to Gene Mallet <gene@statsci.com> for details.
SAS -- Cost about the same as PC version. Works well, but does not conform to
NeXTstep user interface.
Shazam -- Uses gnuplot for graphics. Contact Kenneth White, <ken@unixg.ubc.ca>,
for details. Price is about $400, site licenses available.
SST -- runs on NeXT, no graphics. Contact jad@lear.caltech.edu, for details.
Price is about $800, site licenses available.
TSP -- Contact 415-326-1927.
Free
-----
HippoDraw -- a histogram + simple statistics package running under
NeXTstep. Available via the usual archives.
|STAT -- a collection of Unix filters for statistics. Available via
anonymous ftp in pub/stat at ftp.cis.ohio-state.edu (128.146.8.52)
This is free software, but he doesn't want it distributed on bulletin
boards, etc. ftp the crypted version and send email to Gary Perlman
<perlman@cis.ohio-state.edu> to get the password. Or download the
compiled files from sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
xlispstat -- Object oriented statistics package. Very impressive.
Anonymous ftp source code and documentation from umnstat.stat.umn.edu.
Can be compiled for "generic unix" or for X windows.
Generic unix. This way you have all the computational tools, but only
minimal graphics capability. In order to compile this version, change
the GRAPHSYS flag from X11WINDOWS to GNUPLOT in the Makefile.
In the generic version, xlispstat produces Tektronics output for a few
simple types of plots. You can cut and paste this output into a file
and run it through ps4014 to view the output on the NeXT. To do this,
use the ps4014 emulator in the extended distribution:
ps4014 -R -S 7 < infile.tek > outfile.ps
The resulting ps file can be viewed using Preview. You can also run
it through Darcy Brockbank's program ps2eps and produce an eps file that can
inserted into documents, etc.
X Windows. This gives you access to the many graphics tools,
including spinplots, scatterplots, histograms, box plots, etc.
Make the following changes to the modifiable part of the Makefile will compile
xlispstat using co-Xist libraries for X Windows. It assumes that you have
installed co-Xist and xlispstat in the default location. I'm told that it also
compiles with mouseX, but haven't checked this myself.
------------------------------cut here----------------------------------
#Makefile for xlispstat
#Minor modifications by Hal Varian (HRV) for NeXT
# Directories
# XLISPLIB is where the xlisp executable, the .lsp files to be loaded on
# startup and the examples are to be kept.
# BINDIR is where the xlispstat shell script is to be put.
#
# NOTE: if XLISPLIB is not empty it MUST end with a /
XLISPLIB=/usr/local/lib/xlispstat/
BINDIR=/usr/local/bin
##############################################################################
# HRV: Graphics system. Uncomment one of the following choices:
# HRV: use GNUPLOT if you don't have Xwindows
#GRAPHSYS = GNUPLOT
#GRAPHSYS = SUNVIEW
GRAPHSYS = X11WINDOWS
##############################################################################
# Sun Operating System Version. Only used for SUNVIEW graphics system.
# Use SUN3X for sun OS 3.X and SUN4X for sun OS 4.X under SunView;
#SUNOS = SUN3X
#SUNOS = SUN4X
##############################################################################
# User Compiler Flags
# Add a -I directive if the X11 include files are not in a standard place
# For Sun's OpenLook, for example, add -I/usr/openwin/include
#UCFLAGS = -O -f68881
#ULDFLAGS = -f68881
#HRV: eliminate 68881 option; add= -D flag to avoid link conflict
UCFLAGS = -O -v -Draise=rraise
ULDFLAGS =
CC=cc
LD=ld
##############################################################################
# Foreign function call flag. If this flag is defined you should also
# define a machine chosen from one of the directories in the machines
# directory. Look at the README file in the machine directory for your
# machine - you may have to add some additional compiler or ld flags
# to make dynamic loading work.
#
# If you do not want to use foreign function calling define the machine
# as `generic'
#FOREIGN_FLAG = -DFOREIGNCALL
#MACHINE = sun3
#HRV: use generic machine
MACHINE = generic
##############################################################################
# Additional libraries and files to load at compile time
EXTRALIBS=
EXTRAOBJS=
##############################################################################
# Directory to search for X11 libraries (libX11.a, etc.)
#HRV: this is where co-Xist puts the X11 libraries
X11LIBDIR=/usr/include/X11
###############################################################################
### ###
### DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE ###
### ###
###############################################################################
###############################################################################
[rest of makefile is the same]
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: rice@dingo.imag.fr (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep --- What about non-experts?
Date: 11 May 1994 14:13:19 GMT
Organization: IMAG, Grenoble, France
Sender: rice@dingo (Jonathan Rice)
Distribution: world
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In article <2qjgaj$sq3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes:
|> BTW
|> Now I heard very vaguely of something called AUC-TeX
|> that (and with 50% chance I am misrepresenting this)
|> integrates LATeX grammar recognition into Emacs.
|> Some may point oput that this makes Emacs all the better
|> companion to LaTeX. Maybe so (after the learning curve).
|> [But does this work with Emacs.app on the NeXT?]
|>
I have used AUC-TeX a bit with Lucid Emacs under X. It is a wonderful system. For
anyone writing a lot of LaTeX or TeX, it should be a very strong incentive to
make the effort of learning Emacs. That dreaded learning curve is not *that*
steep. Learning basic editing is not hard at all, and then you can pick up more
advanced features as you go along. A key point, I think, is that while the
*configuration and installation* of Emacs packages may be a little hairy, once
this has been done (and hopefully, a systems person can do this for you), the
*use* of the various modes and features is, by and large, simple. This is
especially true of a GUI-savvy port like Emacs.app.
|> [But does this work with Emacs.app on the NeXT?]
I don't know for sure. But I'd be very surprised if it didn't.
Here's the introduction page from the online help for AUC-TeX, for those who wish
to know more:
_________________________________________________________________________
AUC TeX is a comprehensive customizable integrated environment for
writing input files for LaTeX using GNU Emacs.
AUC TeX lets you run TeX/LaTeX and other LaTeX-related tools, such as
output filters or post processors from inside Emacs. Especially
`running LaTeX' is interesting, as AUC TeX lets you browse through the
errors TeX reported, while it moves the cursor directly to the reported
error, and displays some documentation for that particular error. This
will even work when the document is spread over several files.
AUC TeX automatically indents your `LaTeX-source', not only as you
write it--you can also let it indent and format an entire document. It
has a special outline feature, which can greatly help you `getting the
overview' of a document.
Apart from these special features, AUC TeX provides a large range of
handy Emacs macros, which in several different ways can help you write
your LaTeX documents fast and without pain. Here's a short list of the
major features:
* Insertion of templates for logical-structural compositions such as
environments and sections.
* Hot-keys for easy access to certain often used constructs, e.g.,
font changes, accented letters, and mathematical symbols.
* Running application programs (such as TeX), and then parsing the
output so that errors in the document may be located easily.
* Support for multi-file documents.
* Online help for (La)TeX error messages.
* Outlining--i.e., manipulating the document as a composition of
nested/sequential logical constructs.
* Instant formatting and indentation of the ASCII-document in order
to make it easier to read.
* `Completion' (and thereby spell-checking) of partially written
control sequences.
________________________________________________________________________
It's really a breeze to use. Get someone to give you a demo.
-- Jonathan
o------------------------------o--------------------------o
| Jonathan Rice | Laboratoire ARTEMIS-IMAG |
o------------------------------o B.P. 53 |
| Email: Jonathan.Rice@imag.fr | 38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 9 |
| Phone: (33) 76 63 58 80 | FRANCE |
| Fax: (33) 76 63 84 23 | |
o------------------------------o--------------------------o
From: REINI@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH (REINBERG,MARTIN STEFAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DAYDREAM
Date: 11 May 1994 14:11:48 GMT
Organization: ETH ZUERICH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qqp34$cvq@elna.ethz.ch>
Hi
I am interested in DAYDREAM the Mac-Emulator. Where can I get
some information about it? Is is easy to switch between Mac
and NeXT.
Thanks in advance
Martin Reinberg
From: jlr@gnome.East.Sun.COM (Janet L. Rimlinger Sun Systems Engineer King of Prussia, PA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 11 May 1994 14:41:38 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qqqr2$en@dr-pepper.East.Sun.COM>
References: <2qqaid$bk5@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>
Paul, Marco, and Matthais are correct. Sun and NeXT are working on the
OpenStep API which is due for completion this summer! AND Sun and NeXT
are working on an IMPLEMENTATION of the OpenStep API to run ontop of
Solaris by mid '95. Additionally, a version of NeXTSTEP will run on
SPARC platforms under Mach around the end of '94. These are all projected
dates. The OpenStep API will be submitted to a standards committee this
summer and made available to other companies who will be encouraged by
both NeXT and Sun to adopt it as the Object Development standard.
Hope this clears things up....
======================================================================
Janet L. Rimlinger
Systems Engineer
Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation
620 Freedom Business Center, Suite 105
King of Prussia, PA 19406
janet.rimlinger@east.sun.com
======================================================================
From: jtod@access1.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sparcs running NS & Mach?
Date: 11 May 1994 14:56:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Express Group, Greenbelt MD
Message-ID: <2qqrmu$5d7@news1.digex.net>
Summary: Mach port to Sparcs for NeXTSTEP?
Keywords: Mach, NeXTSTEP, Sparc, Sun, NeXT, fnord
Now I understand that OpenStep is a Great Leap Forward, but it's still
running over Solaris. I've talked with several vhemently non-Solaris Sun
programmers, and they desperately want to see NS running on the Sparcs but
layered over Mach.
I have seen Mach 3 running on Sparcs. What's the big problem with running
NS on top of Mach, instead of Solaris? I've even heard a programmer from
Sun (first hand) tell me: "Yes, it's official. There *is* a port of
Mach-based NS in the works. I thought everyone knew that. There will be TWO
versions of NeXTSTEP, one over Solaris, one over Mach." I've had the same
thing told to me, as an unofficial rumor, by someone at NeXT who would have
a VERY good clue if this was happing or not.
Am I just behind the curve here? Does everyone but me know that there are
to be two versions of NS for the Sparc platforms? I know that NeXT would
make three immediate sales here at Digex if they had a Sparc/Mach based
package...
--
John Todd -- Sales
Digital Express Group - An Internet Access Provider
Voice: 1-800-969-9090 FAX: 1-301-220-0477
jtodd@digex.net
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: open - a replacement for /usr/bin/open
Date: 11 May 1994 11:03:58 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9405111601.AA04537@alleg.EDU>
In article <2qoko5$lld@digifix.digifix.com> Christian
Limpach writes:
A replacement for NeXT's (since 3.1 broken) /usr/bin/open
is now available.
To which Carl Edman responded:
The progressive breaking of /usr/bin/open over the
releases was a small but arguably the most annoying
devolution of NS over the past couple releases. This
particular replacement fixes the problem with all the
additional features anybody could possibly ask for.
If you ever do any work from the command line, do get
this program.
YES! Finally 'open -a' actually works by (I think) checking the
Workspace ApplicationPaths and starting the app (if needed). There
is also a way to 'unhide' the application as well in the same
commandline. This is probably one of the most useful things I've
found around the net, and I agree that if you work from the
command-line, you'll want the new open.
I particularly like the fact that it can be used by putting it into
~/Unix/bin, rather than having to remove /usr/bin/open, which I can't
do because I'm just a student-user.
Plus, it's a MAB, so it'll work when I get my own Intel machine (ok,
a little dream there, I'll probably never be able to buy a machine to
run NeXTStep or Openstep.... but I can't imagine leaving my NeXT in a
year!)
Thanks, Christian, making things a little better is NeXTWorld.....
TjL
---
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh)
Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.1 Motorola
MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO
No Root access, no super-user access
From: srs1002@cl.cam.ac.uk (S.R. Samani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 11 May 1994 16:13:13 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qr06p$pp9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
>>
>> In article <2qqqr2$en@dr-pepper.East.Sun.COM>, you write:
>> |> Paul, Marco, and Matthais are correct. Sun and NeXT are working
> on the
>> |> OpenStep API which is due for completion this summer! AND Sun
> and NeXT
>> |> are working on an IMPLEMENTATION of the OpenStep API to run
> ontop of
>> |> Solaris by mid '95. Additionally, a version of NeXTSTEP will
> run on
>> |> SPARC platforms under Mach around the end of '94. These are all
> projected
>> |> dates. The OpenStep API will be submitted to a standards
> committee this
>> |> summer and made available to other companies who will be
> encouraged by
>> |> both NeXT and Sun to adopt it as the Object Development
> standard.
>> |>
>> |> Hope this clears things up....
>> |>
>>
>>
>> Just a quick question... will the version of NEXTSTEP running on
>> top of Mach use version 2.5 or version 3.0 of Mach ?
>>
>I do not know. That's a NeXT issue. If you did not copy this to the
>newsgroup, could you post it there? Maybe they could answer.
>
>Janet.
I sent Janet a message asking her the question about the Mach
version, and this was her response.
Can anyone from NeXT help?
Sanjay
------------------------
S R Samani
srs1002@hermes.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: How is Pangea doing?
Message-ID: <1994May11.142706.872@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <CpK19C.5rn@ucdavis.edu> <1994May10.174837.4045@pangea.com>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 14:27:06 GMT
In article <1994May10.174837.4045@pangea.com> rock@pangea.com writes:
>
>Pangea is doing great. Our products have been well received by
>customers and we remain strongly committed to NEXTSTEP. Our HP port
>went smoothly and our OpenStep port is well underway.
Your what?
From: quarrie@darth.lbl.gov (David R. Quarrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: C Compiler Bug?
Date: 11 May 1994 17:20:55 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38984@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
The following fragments of code and i386 assembler illustrate a suspected bug
that I've not been able to isolate in a simple test program.
There are two C code fragments (which are not meant to be human-readable,
they're automatically generated), the first of which fails, the second, which
uses a static char* variable to hold an intermediate result, succeeds. I
enclose the C code fragments and the (hopefully) relevant assembler output. If
anyone understands what the problem is, and even better, a solution I would be
eternally grateful.
I've tried several switches to the C compiler without success (e.g. no -O,
-fno-defer-pop -fno-function-cse -fvolatile etc.).
I should add that this is running NEXTSTEP 3.2 using the standard NeXT C
compiler.
David
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's the Intel (i386) assembler output for the BAD case:
C code:
Eakt1Ho(l[1], l[0]);
ti1 = *(long *) (l[1] + (EbNpqj8-497)[dtype]);
EamwkjW(l[4], ti1);
EazcALc(EaeIDNx(l[1]), l[4]);
tc1 = Eax7a6T(EadPGtu(l[1]));
Assembler:
call _Eakt1Ho
addl $8,%esp
movl -92(%ebp),%eax
addl $4,%eax
movl -88(%ebp),%edx
movl (%eax),%eax
addl _EbNpqj8-1988(,%edx,4),%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
movl %ebx,-84(%ebp)
pushl %ebx
movl -92(%ebp),%eax
addl $16,%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
pushl %ebx
call _EamwkjW
addl $8,%esp
movl -92(%ebp),%eax
addl $16,%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
pushl %ebx
movl -92(%ebp),%eax
addl $4,%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
pushl %ebx
call _EaeIDNx
addl $4,%esp
movl %eax,%eax
pushl %eax
call _EazcALc
addl $8,%esp
movl -92(%ebp),%eax
addl $4,%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
pushl %ebx
call _EadPGtu
addl $4,%esp
movl %eax,%eax
pushl %eax
call _Eax7a6T
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's the GOOD case:
C Code:
char* temp;
[....]
Eakt1Ho(l[1], l[0]);
ti1 = *(long *) (l[1] + (EbNpqj8-497)[dtype]);
EamwkjW(l[4], ti1);
temp = EaeIDNx(l[1]);
EazcALc(temp, l[4]);
tc1 = Eax7a6T(EadPGtu(l[1]));
Assembler:
call _Eakt1Ho
addl $8,%esp
movl -96(%ebp),%eax
addl $4,%eax
movl -92(%ebp),%edx
movl (%eax),%eax
addl _EbNpqj8-1988(,%edx,4),%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
movl %ebx,-88(%ebp)
pushl %ebx
movl -96(%ebp),%eax
addl $16,%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
pushl %ebx
call _EamwkjW
addl $8,%esp
movl -96(%ebp),%eax
addl $4,%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
pushl %ebx
call _EaeIDNx
addl $4,%esp
movl %eax,-80(%ebp)
movl -96(%ebp),%eax
addl $16,%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
pushl %ebx
movl -80(%ebp),%ebx
pushl %ebx
call _EazcALc
addl $8,%esp
movl -96(%ebp),%eax
addl $4,%eax
movl (%eax),%ebx
pushl %ebx
call _EadPGtu
addl $4,%esp
movl %eax,%eax
pushl %eax
call _Eax7a6T
---------------------------------------------------------------------
David R. Quarrie Lawrence Berkeley Lab MS 50B-3238
(NeXTmail ok) 1 Cyclotron Road
Internet: DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov Berkeley, CA 94720
DECnet : lbl::drquarrie Tel: (510) 486-4868
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Tiff to GIF converter
Message-ID: <CpnDLH.DB@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <2qm78j$97q@hq.hq.af.mil>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 16:53:41 GMT
In article <2qm78j$97q@hq.hq.af.mil> andym@hq.af.mil (Andy McConnell) writes:
> In article <CpJ7uD.2Hs@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen
> Sell) writes:
> > Cannot ImageViewer.app do the same thing, but with a graphical
> interface?
>
> ImageViewer 0.9e (latest??) will go from GIF to TIFF, but not the other
> way.
I am sorry to confirm Andy is right, even with a slightly newer version of ImageViewer. I only did
confirm ImageViewer does both formats before posting. It did not occur to me there might still be
at least one direction of conversion not implemented. Sorry again.
BTW, my version of ImageViewer claims to be 0.9i and I never saw another anouncement since then so
it probably is the newest.
Juergen
---
Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok )
Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617
BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new generation of soap powder ?
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 11 May 1994 14:38:39 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qr8nf$slt@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <2qpvor$4t6@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Matthias Kloas writes
> > In the meantime, NeXT is selling an "OpenStep" package, which is nothing
> > but NeXTStep for Intel, with a guide on what should be avoided to make
> > sure that the code written for NeXTStep will run on OpenStep ...
>
> Is it somehow possible to get this guide without buying the package?
> I am curious what changes will habe to be applied to existing software to
> migrate from NeXTstep to OpenStep.
>
on ftp.next.com (also available by NextAnswers)
* White Papers 94-04-28
1566 OpenStep and Solaris 307k 94-04-28
1568 OpenStep and Solaris Plain Text Version 29k 94-04-28
1567 OpenStep Portability 360k 94-04-28
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator problem with placed EPS art
Date: 11 May 1994 12:49:34 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qqk8u$n9n@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <1994May10.190858.1559@rna.nl>
In article <1994May10.190858.1559@rna.nl> gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
writes:
> Hello World,
>
> I am asking this for a friend. He has AI and has created a file with 8
eps
> files placed on a page. He saved with epsf header and with the placed
art
> (eps). Inspection shows that the file indeed does contain the pictures.
>
> But the pointers to the original eps files are also there and if the
original
> eps files are removed, AI suddenly cannot find the placed art anymore,
even
> while you can see everything is really in the file.
>
> Now, he wants to give that file to someone who has AI on the Mac. But
there you
> see the same problem.
>
> Is there a way to cure his problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
> "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
> Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
This "feature" can be real annoying. The way we got around the problem
was by telling people that they should never import/drag and drop EPS
files into Illustrator directly. Instead, they should be brought in via
copy/paste. Specifically, import the EPS graphic into Create or Draw.app,
copy it, then paste it into Illustrator. No more games chasing down
pointers to other files.
For the existing file, your best bet might be to individually copy/paste
the imported graphics into Draw.app, then try to bring them back in via
copy/paste. You may have to create a new document to get rid of the
placed art references.
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning)
Subject: Re: ispell help, please (faq?)
References: <2qphif$9of@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <1994May11.184132.26418@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 May 94 18:41:32 GMT
In article <2qphif$9of@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gil Rivlis) writes:
> Anyone can tell me how to fix ispell 4.0 (or ioctl.h) so that
> ispell 4.0 will compile on NS3.2?
It's an FAQ all right. Here's the most popular posting on the subject
of ispell.
Q: I have problem <xxx> with ispell 4.0. What do I do?
A: Get ispell 3.1. Ispell 4.0 is an obsolete, limited, unsupported
variant that should be removed from all ftp sites.
Ispell 3.1 is available from ftp.cs.ucla.edu or ftp.math.orst.edu, in
the pub/ispell-3.1 directory on both sites. Among other things, it
comes with an optional NextStep interface. If you are installing it
for the first time, be sure to look at the README-patch5 file to learn
about the workaround for a minor installation bug.
--
Geoff Kuenning geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Class 1 fax modem driver
Date: 11 May 1994 20:31:22 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qrfaq$9j9@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
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Where can I get my hands on a Class 1 fax modem driver? I have
a cube with NS3.0 and all that seems to be there are Class 2 drivers.
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From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 11 May 1994 21:00:14 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2qrh0u$an0@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu> <SOWA.94May6135057@amdew.llnl.gov>
Erik C. Sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov) wrote:
: Eh, you might not know how useful the features are until you try them.
Granted. But in this case, it so happens I know many of Emacs' feature
set, though I certainly haven't bothered to learn the keystrokes. To be
honest, I _still_ can't personally find much reason to use it.
NOW, this is NOT to suggest that others can't! My programming style is my
own, and does not lend itself to the extra stuff that Emacs provides. But
your mileage will most assuredly vary.
Great implementation, though. Although I miss the automatic-scrolling scroll
bar, with scroll buttons, and on the left-hand side of the screen. Carl?
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From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 11 May 1994 21:21:54 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2qri9i$an0@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu> <SWIFT.94May11013832@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
Matthew Swift (swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu) wrote:
: Yes, "the only advantage to Emacs is features." And the only good thing about
: the sun is thermonuclear radiation -- pah, who needs it, right?
: Emacs and Edit are almost incomparable, in the way that a four-function
: calculator and Mathematica are incomparable, to exaggerate only slightly.
This is not fair. Look, Emacs was created in the days of yore when you had
one terminal screen to make do with and had to run all of your programs on
that single screen. Emacs grew into an environment for the terminal, which
provided, in addition to basic editing capabilities, lots of stuff like
debugging, news readers, mail readers, etc. You never had to leave the
program. Emacs is not some editor. It really embodies much of the purpose
that graphical environments provide nowadays.
But NeXTSTEP is a graphical environment, folks. The idea is that you'd be
given a variety of easy-to-access tools (applications) that all worked in
lock-step with each other. IB, Edit, PB, etc. TickleServices is trying
to extend this, as is my pet project (COWS--wait a while).
What you're saying is that Emacs provides an extensible environment which has
_been_ extended, and saying this is somehow better than Edit. But Edit is
part of its own environment which I wager is FAR SUPERIOR TO EMACS for
custom development of stuff. NeXTSTEP.
What I'm saying is that because I came from a Mac background and was
introduced to UNIX _through_ NeXTSTEP, my comfortable environment is
customization through NeXTSTEP apps (extensions), and not through Lisp ones.
Edit is my basic editor, but has been enhanced considerably by a variety
of services, applications, etc., into an environment which provides everything
I need in a comprehensible, non alt-meta-analyze-zippy-the-pinhead way.
Now, don't get me wrong: 1) Lisp is my very favorite language, and 2) I'm
well versed on a variety of systems now through my work (installing minis),
so I can well appreciate Emacs' usefulness (though my work insists on vi!!!).
But it seems to me that though Emacs is tremendously useful for X and for
terminals, in a graphical environment like NeXTSTEP it really serves a
counter-purpose: keeping people in a terminal-based environment instead of
stepping out into a graphical one.
It's fine to say Emacs is good for those of us who grew up on it. And it's
fine to say Emacs is wonderful for working amongst many flavors of UNIX. But
it's not a good argument to say that, on Edit's own turf, Emacs is superior.
: Any sophisticated user of Emacs could spend hours, literally, listing the
: things emacs can do that Edit can't. That doesn't make it necessarily the
: right choice, but to anyone who _could_ list those things, emacs is utterly
: indispensable.
YES! And Edit is the wrong app for such a person.
: With emacs, your work can proceed seamlessly, because you never have to touch
: the mouse.
Let's not get into mouse-vs.-keyboard arguments here. Okay, I will say one
thing, and that is that if you read c.s.mac.* groups at all, you well know
that studies consistently demonstrate that though keyboard often _feel_
faster, mice overall are faster. Since I've used Macs since 1984, I can whip
mice-based editors around at speeds that make many of my keyboard-based friends
shudder. It depends on what you're used to.
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From: quarrie@darth.lbl.gov (David R. Quarrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: C Compiler Bug?
Date: 11 May 1994 21:25:31 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38989@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
Please ignore my recent post regarding a possible C compiler bug. It turns out
that the problem has been understood independently. I (naturally) only heard of
that after I'd hit the "send" key. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth.
David
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Message-ID: <1994May11.211423.7521@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2qr06p$pp9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 21:14:23 GMT
In article <2qr06p$pp9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> srs1002@cl.cam.ac.uk (S.R.
Samani) writes:
> >> Just a quick question... will the version of NEXTSTEP running on
> >> top of Mach use version 2.5 or version 3.0 of Mach ?
> >>
> >I do not know. That's a NeXT issue. If you did not copy this to the
> >newsgroup, could you post it there? Maybe they could answer.
> >
> >Janet.
>
> I sent Janet a message asking her the question about the Mach
> version, and this was her response.
Mach <> Mach.
NeXT use the word Mach to refer to the Unix layer of their OS, which in
reality consists of a kernel derived from Mach <2.5, plus an early release
of BSD 4.3. The rest of the world understand Mach to refer to just the
kernel, hence the confusion.
There has been some speculation recently in csn.advocacy that NeXTSTEP 3.3
will use BSD 4.4; nothing about new versions of Mach. Feedback indirectly
from NeXT would imply that they think their kernel is at least the equal
of Mach 3.0, albeit not a microkernel. It is also supposed to be faster
than Mach 3.0.
Paul
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From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 11 May 1994 23:19:19 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
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References: <2qqqr2$en@dr-pepper.East.Sun.COM>
Janet L. Rimlinger Sun Systems Engineer King of Prussia, PA writes
<Paul, Marco, and Matthais are correct. Sun and NeXT are working on the
<OpenStep API which is due for completion this summer! AND Sun and NeXT
<are working on an IMPLEMENTATION of the OpenStep API to run ontop of
<Solaris by mid '95. Additionally, a version of NeXTSTEP will run on
<SPARC platforms under Mach around the end of '94. These are all projected
<dates. The OpenStep API will be submitted to a standards committee this
<summer and made available to other companies who will be encouraged by
<both NeXT and Sun to adopt it as the Object Development standard.
<
<Hope this clears things up....
<
<======================================================================
<
<Janet L. Rimlinger
<Systems Engineer
<
<Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation
<620 Freedom Business Center, Suite 105
<King of Prussia, PA 19406
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<janet.rimlinger@east.sun.com
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<======================================================================
one correction, you said:
<AND Sun and NeXT are working on an IMPLEMENTATION of the OpenStep API
<to run ontop of Solaris by mid '95.
Sun is working on an IMPLEMENTATION of OpenStep on Solaris.
NeXT is working on an IMPLEMENTATION of OpenStep on Mach.
NeXT is working on an IMPLEMENTATION of NextStep 3.x on Mach on Sparc
--
Mark Anenberg , OpenStep Development Team
Email: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (NeXTMail Welcome)
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and
in no way represent those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sparcs running NS & Mach?
Date: 11 May 1994 23:27:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2qrpl5$k8l@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <2qqrmu$5d7@news1.digex.net>
John Todd writes
< Now I understand that OpenStep is a Great Leap Forward, but it's still
<running over Solaris. I've talked with several vhemently non-Solaris Sun
<programmers, and they desperately want to see NS running on the Sparcs but
<layered over Mach.
< I have seen Mach 3 running on Sparcs. What's the big problem with running
<NS on top of Mach, instead of Solaris? I've even heard a programmer from
<Sun (first hand) tell me: "Yes, it's official. There *is* a port of
<Mach-based NS in the works. I thought everyone knew that. There will be TWO
<versions of NeXTSTEP, one over Solaris, one over Mach." I've had the same
<thing told to me, as an unofficial rumor, by someone at NeXT who would have
<a VERY good clue if this was happing or not.
< Am I just behind the curve here? Does everyone but me know that there are
<to be two versions of NS for the Sparc platforms? I know that NeXT would
<make three immediate sales here at Digex if they had a Sparc/Mach based
<package...
<
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<jtodd@digex.net
There seems to be a bit of confusion here.
Sun is implementing OpenStep on Solaris on Sparc; this will be a Sun product.
NeXT is implementing OpenStep on Mach; this will be a NeXT product.
Next is porting NEXTSTEP, the current implementatation which runs on Mach,
to Sparc hardware; this is a NeXT product.
--
Mark Anenberg , OpenStep Development Team
Email: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (NeXTMail Welcome)
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and
in no way represent those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
From: jimr@shorty.cs.wisc.edu (Jim Robinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ispell help, please (faq?)
Date: 11 May 1994 23:50:36 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <2qrr0c$99c@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <2qphif$9of@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1994May11.184132.26418@cs.ucla.edu>
In article <1994May11.184132.26418@cs.ucla.edu> geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) writes:
>Q: I have problem <xxx> with ispell 4.0. What do I do?
>
>A: Get ispell 3.1. Ispell 4.0 is an obsolete, limited, unsupported
> variant that should be removed from all ftp sites.
It is important to point out that GNU Ispell and International Ispell
are two different programs, international ispell is much more
powerful, and was at version 3.1.03 last I checked. GNU, which you
should avoid is, I believe, the 4.0 version in question.
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 12 May 1994 00:08:11 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2qrs1b$e3o@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu> <SOWA.94May6135057@amdew.llnl.gov> <2qrh0u$an0@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) wrote...
> My programming style is my
>own, and does not lend itself to the extra stuff that Emacs provides. But
>your mileage will most assuredly vary.
>
>Great implementation, though. Although I miss the automatic-scrolling scroll
>bar, with scroll buttons, and on the left-hand side of the screen. Carl?
By automatic-scrolling, I assume you mean having the display update
while you drag the thumb. This is a known bug (it's in the TODO list
for Emacs-NS), but I'm not sure where exactly the problem lies -- the
NS code or some odd assumption made within the Emacs core. Carl?
Scroll buttons aren't there because X doesn't have them. It's a
compromise between NS compatibility and X consistency.
Scroll bars on the right are a decision made by the internals of
Emacs, which Carl does not want to muck with too much to ease patching
Emacs-NS as new FSF-Emacsen come out. However, there is a movement to
have the option to put the scroll bars on either side, even under X.
I believe this is being looked into by the FSF people for a future
release, but someone can (and will :-) correct me on that if I'm
wrong.
I think this whole Emacs/Edit discussion boils down to this:
1) The people who like Emacs love Emacs-NS.
2) The people who like Edit feel the extra power of Emacs is
outweighed by its complexity.
3) The people straddling the fence are liable to fall either way,
and their decision will probably be based on which of the above
two categories they most sympathize with.
So, why don't we all just retire to our separate corners of the world
now and bask in the wonders of Infinite Diversity in Infinite
Combinations. With Emacs-NS, NeXT fans have, perhaps for the first
time, a real choice as to the editor they want to use. Whatever they
decide, Emacs-NS has provided more valuable software to the NeXT
community, thus strengthening it and making it more attractive to
newcomers. Whether you choose to use it or not, I think we all have
to give the app itself, Carl, and the rest of the Emacs-NS team at
least that much credit.
Good work, all!
Joe
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 11 May 1994 23:37:24 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May12003724@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<SOWA.94May6135057@amdew.llnl.gov> <2qrh0u$an0@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
To: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
In-reply-to: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu's message of 11 May 1994 21:00:14 GMT
<sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
>Great implementation, though. Although I miss the automatic-scrolling scroll
>bar, with scroll buttons, and on the left-hand side of the screen. Carl?
Speaking as a left hander I do too but this is _not_ carl's problem. Talk
to Stallman and ask why this has never been dealt with given the
requests from X users all over the world.
Hell it's just a geometry problem isn't it?
I guess like most <sane> programmers Stallman chooses not to use the Mouse :-)
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 12 May 1994 00:01:20 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May12010120@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<SWIFT.94May11013832@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
<2qri9i$an0@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
To: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
In-reply-to: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu's message of 11 May 1994 21:21:54 GMT
<sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
>Matthew Swift (swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu) wrote:
>: Yes, "the only advantage to Emacs is features." And the only good thing about
>: the sun is thermonuclear radiation -- pah, who needs it, right?
>: Emacs and Edit are almost incomparable, in the way that a four-function
>: calculator and Mathematica are incomparable, to exaggerate only slightly.
>But NeXTSTEP is a graphical environment, folks. The idea is that you'd be
>given a variety of easy-to-access tools (applications) that all worked in
>lock-step with each other. IB, Edit, PB, etc. TickleServices is trying
>to extend this, as is my pet project (COWS--wait a while).
You are kidding right? I'm no Emacs expert but you are clearly not
qualified to make such inaccurate statements (Actually now that I
think about it you are :) ). You claim that Services offer Integration?
There's no other _integrated_ environment in the world of software
like Emacs is today.
>What you're saying is that Emacs provides an extensible environment which has
>_been_ extended, and saying this is somehow better than Edit. But Edit is
>part of its own environment which I wager is FAR SUPERIOR TO EMACS for
>custom development of stuff. NeXTSTEP.
You have to qualify the term "environment" I think. I associate that
word with integration not necessary a complete _development
environment_ which Emacs is in itself if you want to write emacs
subsystems. Just like NeXTSTEP subsystems. Show me a scripting
language that communicates b/w NS applications today.
Will somebody show Sean Emacs someday. I don't just mean the Tutorial either.
>What I'm saying is that because I came from a Mac background and was
>introduced to UNIX _through_ NeXTSTEP, my comfortable environment is
>customization through NeXTSTEP apps (extensions), and not through Lisp ones.
>Edit is my basic editor, but has been enhanced considerably by a variety
>of services, applications, etc., into an environment which provides everything
>I need in a comprehensible, non alt-meta-analyze-zippy-the-pinhead way.
"Services" there's that word again.
Question... how you you extend Edit to incorproate an _interative_
subsystem? Let's say you want to rewrite the spell checker that it
uses to interactively replace words (and edit elsewhere whilst you are
doing so should you decide to) Or even simplier. How to you get it so
that each time your write a document a portion of the text of that
document is updated. Or perhaps more challenging is to configure the
edit so that it _automatically_ inserts predefined headers in all new
documents it creates. I can do all of that in Emacs today.
I won't even talk about higlighting/colorizing source code.
Write me a threaded newsreader that works in Edit.
>Now, don't get me wrong: 1) Lisp is my very favorite language, and 2) I'm
>well versed on a variety of systems now through my work (installing minis),
>so I can well appreciate Emacs' usefulness (though my work insists on vi!!!).
>But it seems to me that though Emacs is tremendously useful for X and for
>terminals, in a graphical environment like NeXTSTEP it really serves a
>counter-purpose: keeping people in a terminal-based environment instead of
>stepping out into a graphical one.
The issue of Lisp is moot. I'm no fan of lisp based languages either
but if you saw half the stuff that Emacs can do it's largely because
of elisp.
>It's fine to say Emacs is good for those of us who grew up on it. And it's
>fine to say Emacs is wonderful for working amongst many flavors of UNIX. But
>it's not a good argument to say that, on Edit's own turf, Emacs is superior.
We've said before that Emacs is far superior to Edit because it is
_completely_ extensible. Edit is not and never will be. User pipes
are not what I consider extensions.
>: Any sophisticated user of Emacs could spend hours, literally, listing the
>: things emacs can do that Edit can't. That doesn't make it necessarily the
>: right choice, but to anyone who _could_ list those things, emacs is utterly
>: indispensable.
>YES! And Edit is the wrong app for such a person.
>: With emacs, your work can proceed seamlessly, because you never have to touch
>: the mouse.
>Let's not get into mouse-vs.-keyboard arguments here. Okay, I will say one
>thing, and that is that if you read c.s.mac.* groups at all, you well know
>that studies consistently demonstrate that though keyboard often _feel_
>faster, mice overall are faster.
That is absolutely rubbish :-). Case in point. I have a large document...
What do I do. In Emacs or any other editor I simply press M-< to go to
the start. You are claiming that's it's faster to take one hand off
the keyboard (yes I type with both hands) move the scrollbar to the
top and return my hand to the keyboard? NOTE: I do not write code with
the mouse. The primary tool when editing documents is the keyboard.
Thus that's where you spend most of your time. The more time your spend
there the faster it is. It's simple mathemetics.
How the hell can the mouse be faster?
Since I've used Macs since 1984, I can whip
>mice-based editors around at speeds that make many of my keyboard-based friends
>shudder. It depends on what you're used to.
Do you touch type? Seriously, I want to know the answer to that
question. I'm willing to bet you don't. Nobody who can operate by
touch typing would want to use the mouse. The mouse offers one thing
and one thing only. Precision. I only use the Mouse when I want
precise selections. Precision, in the sense that it's quicker to
define a precise area with the mouse than the keyboard.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: dlr@underdog (Donald L. Ritchey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 12 May 1994 01:55:34 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Message-ID: <2qs2am$n8r@kelso.abbott.com>
References: <2qri9i$an0@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
In article <2qri9i$an0@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O.
Luke) writes:
> Matthew Swift (swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu) wrote:
>
> : Yes, "the only advantage to Emacs is features." And the only good thing
about
> : the sun is thermonuclear radiation -- pah, who needs it, right?
>
> : Emacs and Edit are almost incomparable, in the way that a four-function
> : calculator and Mathematica are incomparable, to exaggerate only slightly.
>
Let's face it folks, editors are tools.
We are, by and large, the electronic equivalent of craftsmen of the 18th and
19th century. We are mostly professionals and students using the tools to do
useful work (make applications, earn a living, learn the tools of the trade).
If I were an old-style tailor in the small town that I grew up in, I would not
complain about the blacksmith's hammer being an inelegant tool. It does the
job he needs it to do. Similarly, as a tailor, I don't expect the blacksmith to
want to use my cloth scissors to cut 1/8 inch sheet stock. He has metal shears
that work far better than my scissors ever could.
Also, as a personal preference, I may find that I like three inch long scissors
for my general purpose fabric trimming. However, my partner may prefer to use
a smaller and lighter version, because her hands are smaller and her wrists
hurt after several hours of cutting fabric using the larger scissors.
What I am attempting to say is that all of these programs are tools that we use
to do our scholarly or professional jobs. I don't object to your promotion of
the good points of your tools, but don't attempt to deny or denigrate the tools
I choose to use. I personally prefer to use Emacs for general purpose editing
and, especially, for program development. This choice is because I came from
the ranks of the character based Unix hoard. I use Emacs because it is
essentially the same on whatever platform I use, and believe me, I have had to
use a bunch of them. Its extension language allows me to do more useful work
and do it in an organized way. I use Edit to work on the RTF documents and
with other NextStep tools that are integrated with Edit. I generally use vi to
do editing chores as root for system administration since that editor fires up
faster and gets in my way less that anything else. As you can see, like any
craftsman, I use whatever tools best suit the task at hand. I try to avoid the
situation perfectly described in the adage:
When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Like a carpenter, when I move from job to job, I like to bring along the hammer
and other tools that I have grown used to over the years. I may replace it
with a newer model with a better grip or more durable head, but I have gotten
used to a particular tool and want to stay with it. As my friends (such as
they are for a gypsy contract programmer/sysadmin) seem to find it interesting
what I can do with my relatively slow, hunt-and-peck typing, but that is
because I take advantage of all the experience that I have picked up over time.
I am an experienced tool user and tool craftsman, since that is what it takes
to get my job done. I believe in working smarter, wherever possible, not
harder.
And now back to our regularly scheduled flame-fest.
E-mail discussion welcomed, insults go into the kill file.
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From: pcu@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: The "Where do I look for info on" FAQ
Date: 12 May 1994 03:28:53 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qs7pl$fao@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Where do I look for info on drivers for Intel hardware?
Where do I look for info on PDO?
Where do I look for info on OpenStep?
Where do I look for info on FTP sites?
Where do I look for info on 3rd party products?
Try ftp'ing ftp.next.com <129.18.1.3>.
Get the 1001_Master_Index
Search through it, and then get the interesting files.
Where do I look for info on NeXTSTEP itself?
Check above answer. For more, personal information,
check out the NeXTSTEP User Groups listed on ftp.next.com.
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ispell help, please (faq?)
Date: 12 May 1994 03:36:02 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94May11203602@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2qphif$9of@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In-reply-to: gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu's message of 11 May 1994 02:57:19 GMT
In article <2qphif$9of@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gil Rivlis) writes:
> Anyone can tell me how to fix ispell 4.0 (or ioctl.h) so that
> ispell 4.0 will compile on NS3.2?
Why bother? Use ispell-3.1 instead. It is a drop-in replacement that
is superior in all ways (including a NeXTstep service module).
> In article <1994Jan25.202833.28899@cs.ucla.edu>,
> geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) writes:
> > After a short delay due to a 6.6 earthquake, ispell 3.1 is now
> > available for ftp from ftp.cs.ucla.edu (131.179.192.66) or
> > ftp.math.orst.edu (128.193.80.161). Go into the pub/ispell-3.1
> > directory and retrieve the file ispell-3.1.00.tar.gz.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > A number of ftp mirror sites also store ispell. Check Archie for
> > "ispell-3.1" to find a site near you.
>
> Since so many European groups are receiving this: We're one of those
> mirror site -- and it's already here. So some of you might want to
> save the transatlantic bandwidth. ;-)
>
> ftp.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.55.75]
> directory pub/dicts/ispell/
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Intuitive's Cub'XWindows vs. Pencom's co-Xist
Date: 12 May 1994 05:49:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2qsg0t$dc4@Times.Stanford.EDU>
A few comments on the two major X programs for NEXTSTEP based on my
impressions from a few days of using the demo versions of each.
- co-Xist explicitly says it supports 32-bit color, while Cub'X doesn't.
Does Cub'X NOT support 32-bit color under it's "Native" mode?
It's hard to tell from reading the on-line help, and I don't have time
to test extensively.
- The demo versions are hard to test because they don't come with the full
font distribution, but I believe you should be able to get the rest of
the fonts by ftp from MIT since they are public. Then you just have to
figure out where to put them.
- I couldn't get the latest version of Cub'X to run at all without exiting
immediately. It's demo version is crippled to only support a certain
number of X events and then exit, but it seems to exit on me immediately
with the demo message no matter which of the 4 integration modes I try.
A previous version of the demo (supplied on the 3rd party sampler CD
with NEXTSTEP) worked in the completely-separate mode only.
- I can't seem to find a statement about how co-Xist's demo version was
crippled, nor do I notice anything while running the program other than
missing fonts which clues me in as to what the crippling is.
-Karl
Note, I'm running NS/Intel versions of each.
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX
Date: 12 May 1994 01:30:38 -0500
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
References: <HORNKVJM.94May10153958@merlin.whitman.edu> <2qpeoc$4kc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
In article <2qpeoc$4kc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>,
Hal Varian <hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu> wrote:
>In article <HORNKVJM.94May10153958@merlin.whitman.edu> hornkvjm@merlin.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) writes:
>>Hi!
>>
>>I am looking into buying NeXTStep, and I would like to know about the
>>availability of a good TeX. I remember having heard that one is
>>delivered with the OS; in that case, how good is it? And if it's bad,
>>where can I get a better one? (Preferably PD or educational
>>discount...;)
>
>I've produced 4 books using TeX and dozens of articles. The
>TeX system on the NeXT is the best I've ever used. I expect
>that you will be very happy with it.
>
>
>--
>Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
>voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
>fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Supposing one (like me) does not know TeX, but it sounds impressive.
What's the best way to learn how to use it?
--
Randy Kunkee
Houston, TX
713-870-1334
kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
From: terhakop@cheetah.math.oxy.edu (Artin Terhakopian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need a good Data Plotting Program
Date: 12 May 1994 06:51:16 GMT
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles CA 90041 USA.
Message-ID: <2qsjl4$m8l@bengal.oxy.edu>
Hello
I really need a good data plotting program that will work on my next
machine. If anyone could point me in the right direction. It doesn't
matter if it costs money to get the program, if anyone could just help me
find it.
Thanks a million.
terhakop@math.oxy.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
In-Reply-To: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu's message of 11 May 1994 21:00:14 GMT
To: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May11204817@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Apr29.045004.27656@Princeton.EDU> <2q1mq9$skh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<SOWA.94May6135057@amdew.llnl.gov> <2qrh0u$an0@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 00:48:16 GMT
In article <2qrh0u$an0@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) writes:
Great implementation, though. Although I miss the automatic-scrolling scroll
bar, with scroll buttons, and on the left-hand side of the screen. Carl?
Ah, the three most popular requests all in one sentence. Here the
three least popular answers:
Continuous scrolling: This problem is caused by Emacs and NS both
insisting that they have the main event loop. Stopping the NS main
event loop whenever it is out of events and continuing in the Emacs
main event loop works fairly well in most instances. The one
exception is continuous scrolling. NS won't allow us to stop its main
event loop to run the Emacs main event loop (so that you can see the
effects of scrolling) until you release the scroll bar.
Scroll buttons: Those have been added. Unfortunately NS scroll
buttons are buggy in very narrow scrollers which are common under
Emacs. That is why they are currently disabled.
Left-hand side scroll bars: That is purely up to the GNU Emacs code.
It tells the NS code where it wants a scroll bar and the NS code puts
it there. If you want to see left-hand side scroll bars, tell RMS
about it. If he adds them, they'll exist under NS automatically.
Carl Edman
From: captain@arsenal.com (Andrew T. Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PGP Bug or NEXTSTEP bug?
Date: 12 May 1994 07:48:43 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <2qsn0r$gsg@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Howdy,
Ok. I am unable to determine my PGP problem. I picked up
version 2.5 last night and successfully compiled it with a
"make next" command. Here is what I got when I ran it and
attempted to generate my key;
-------------------------------------------------------
arsenal> pgp -kg
Pretty Good Privacy 2.3a - Public-key encryption for the masses.
(c) 1990-1993 Philip Zimmermann, Phil's Pretty Good Software. 1 Jul 93
Date: 1994/05/12 07:45 GMT
Pick your RSA key size:
1) 384 bits- Casual grade, fast but less secure
2) 512 bits- Commercial grade, medium speed, good security
3) 1024 bits- Military grade, very slow, highest security
Choose 1, 2, or 3, or enter desired number of bits: 1
Generating an RSA key with a 384-bit modulus...
You need a user ID for your public key. The desired form for this
user ID is your name, followed by your E-mail address enclosed in
<angle brackets>, if you have an E-mail address.
For example: John Q. Smith <12345.6789@compuserve.com>
Enter a user ID for your public key:
Andrew T. Foster <captain@arsenal.com>
You need a pass phrase to protect your RSA secret key.
Your pass phrase can be any sentence or phrase and may have many
words, spaces, punctuation, or any other printable characters.
Enter pass phrase:
Enter same pass phrase again:
Note that key generation is a VERY lengthy process.
We need to generate 73 random bytes. This is done by measuring the
time intervals between your keystrokes. Please enter some random text
on your keyboard until you hear the beep:
1 .*
-Enough, thank you.
(Ignored 128 keystrokes that were typed too fast.)
...++++ .............................++++
Keygen failed!
Keygen error.
For a usage summary, type: pgp -h
For more detailed help, consult the PGP User's Guide.
-------------------------------------------------------------
I have attempted to generate a key 15 times using the same
settings with no success. Does anyone have a suggestion? I
am running NeXTSTEP 3.2/Intel.
Later!
- C
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Intuitive's Cub'XWindows vs. Pencom's co-Xist
Date: 12 May 1994 07:07:35 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May12080735@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2qsg0t$dc4@Times.Stanford.EDU>
To: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
In-reply-to: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU's message of 12 May 1994 05:49:17 GMT
Well given that I've not heard a peep from either Vendor lately I'm
not exactly going to rush out and purchase either. however, I've been
a Pencom co-Xist user for a long time.
What's their attitute to X11R6? I personally don't think they can
justify any action given the market for X emulators at the moment.
Read: Sun/HP boxes run X.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis)
Subject: .lha (de)compression on the NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994May10.195840.18670@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 19:58:40 GMT
Greetings!
I've obtained a file via ftp that is compressed in .lha format. Is there a
utility to decode this format on the NeXT? I'm using a NeXTstation Turbo Color
with NS 3.0.
Thanks,
Steve
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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP Problems on NS/Intel 486
Date: 11 May 1994 09:47:24 -0500
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc
Message-ID: <2qqr5s$o7k@imladris.cubetech.com>
References: <2qp9jk$o1g@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <2qp9jk$o1g@news.doit.wisc.edu> captain@arsenal.com writes:
> I picked up the PGP23A.tar.Z package located on the ghost
>distribution site. After successfully compiling the package
>and going through the motions to generate my key, it gets
>to the final phase where I spend 5 minutes typing in garbage
>to test the interval of my keystrokes. After I type and the
>computer has "beeped", it puts a series of periods and
>stars on my screen and then informs me that key generation
>has _failed_. It does this everytime I try to make a key.
Make sure -DHIGHFIRST is not in CFLAGS for the next target in the
makefile. By default it is. You need it for m68k and hppa, but not
i486.
andrew
--
andrew@cubetech.com | "We cannot dwell in the time that is to come,
Andrew Loewenstern | lest we lose our now for a phantom of our
Cube Technologies, Inc. | own design." - Erendis
pgp key fingerprint: 20 96 AA 28 A3 61 74 68 5B D1 B5 33 00 FA 15 B4
From: sams@nbivax.nbi.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ispell help, please (faq?)
Message-ID: <1994May12.094435.1647@nbivax.nbi.dk>
Date: 12 May 94 09:44:35 +0200
References: <2qphif$9of@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1994May11.184132.26418@cs.ucla.edu>
Organization: Niels Bohr Institute and Nordita, Copenhagen
In article <1994May11.184132.26418@cs.ucla.edu>, geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) writes:
>
> In article <2qphif$9of@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
> gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gil Rivlis) writes:
>
>> Anyone can tell me how to fix ispell 4.0 (or ioctl.h) so that
>> ispell 4.0 will compile on NS3.2?
>
> It's an FAQ all right. Here's the most popular posting on the subject
> of ispell.
>
> Q: I have problem <xxx> with ispell 4.0. What do I do?
>
> A: Get ispell 3.1. Ispell 4.0 is an obsolete, limited, unsupported
> variant that should be removed from all ftp sites.
>
> Ispell 3.1 is available from ftp.cs.ucla.edu or ftp.math.orst.edu, in
> the pub/ispell-3.1 directory on both sites. Among other things, it
> comes with an optional NextStep interface. If you are installing it
> for the first time, be sure to look at the README-patch5 file to learn
> about the workaround for a minor installation bug.
> --
> Geoff Kuenning geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com
I agree to the above comments. I you still want to try it:
After having ./cofigure 'd, edit the Makefile.
.
.
LIBS = -ltermlib
.
.
That made it compile and link OK under 3.1 on a NeXTSTATION.
Thomas Sams
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,gnu.emacs.sources
Subject: Simple example as to why I choose to use Emacs.(Free elisp code)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 12 May 1994 12:32:40 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May12133242@steffi.demon.co.uk>
CC: ada@unison.com
Here's some simple (self explanatory) code that I wrote to emulate
CMD-O in Edit.app. This code has it's flaws too but it's early days.
Comments from more experienced elispers or users welcome. This is not meant to
be a general file viewing solution. It's simply a mechanism to view
include files present in implementation files.
(defun current-line ()
"return the name of file on the current line"
(save-excursion
(beginning-of-line)
(let ((start (point)))
(end-of-line)
(buffer-substring start (point)))))
(defvar include-path '("." "/Users/robert/Developer/Headers" "/usr/include/bsd" "/usr/include/ansi" "/usr/include"))
(defun open-header-file-other-window ()
"open the header file on the current line in other window"
(interactive)
(let ((line (current-line)))
(string-match ".* [<\"]+\\(.*\\)[>\"]+" line)
(let ((file (substring line (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1))))
(find-header-file file include-path))))
(defun find-header-file (file pathlist)
(if pathlist
(progn
(setq filename (concat (car pathlist) "/" file))
(if (file-exists-p filename)
(find-file-other-window filename)
(find-header-file file (cdr pathlist))))
nil))
(add-hook 'c-mode-hook '(lambda()
(local-set-key "\M-o" 'open-header-file-other-window)))
From what I've seen Edit.app's implementation is very limiting. It
only looks in the current directory and doesn't follow the
include_path specified through preferences.
However, that's not the point. The point is that this facility didn't
exist in Emacs from the start and it's trivial to work it in.
Note: Unlike edit I do not have to select the entire line. All that is
necessary is for the cursor to appear anywhere on the line itself thus
ensuring that my hands never leave the keyboard to reach for a mouse.
Am I correct in saying that the only way to mark out a selection in
Edit is via the mouse? it's either mouse of CMD-a to select all?
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu)
Subject: DockPrint semi-fails under NS3.2
Message-ID: <1994May12.134017.10706@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 13:40:17 GMT
Hello NeXT'ers,
I have this application, DockPrint, from NS2.0 days that has semi-failed since
upgrading to NS3.2 (on a mono slab) and I'm wondering if anyone
a) knows how I might fix this and/or
b) knows of a similar application that works properly under NS3.2
DockPrint, if you don't know, is an application that should ideally sit in your
Dock. When active you can drag a document icon onto the DockPrint icon and the
document can be printed, tared, compressed, etc. However, ever since I
upgraded to NS3.2 DockPrint hasn't worked when Docked (it works fine if started
from the FileViewer).
I didn't write DockPrint, but I have the sources, and I've recompiled since the
upgrade.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks.
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From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 12 May 1994 09:56:29 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2qtcid$fer@acme.gatech.edu>
References: <2qqqr2$en@dr-pepper.East.Sun.COM> <2qrp5n$k4r@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM>
marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg) writes:
>NeXT is working on an IMPLEMENTATION of OpenStep on Mach.
I'm curious.. do you know if this implimentation of openstep
would be available for MachTen on the Mac? Might solve concerns
about Nextstep on the powermacs.. It would be noticably slower,
but still...
John
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Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu)
========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX
Date: 12 May 1994 14:17:14 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qtdpa$can@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
In article <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy
Kunkee) writes:
> Supposing one (like me) does not know TeX, but it sounds impressive.
> What's the best way to learn how to use it?
Last time I was in my local bookstore I saw about 20 books on TeX.
I learned TeX 10 years ago, so I've never used any of these, but I'm told "TeX
for the Impatient" is pretty good.
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 12 May 1994 15:32:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qti6l$hpp@bones.et.byu.edu>
Robert Nicholson wrote:
) <sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
) >Let's not get into mouse-vs.-keyboard arguments here. Okay, I
) >will say one thing, and that is that if you read c.s.mac.* groups
) >at all, you well know that studies consistently demonstrate that
) >though keyboard often _feel_ faster, mice overall are faster.
)
) That is absolutely rubbish :-).
Is not. See below.
) Case in point. I have a large document...
) What do I do. In Emacs or any other editor I simply press M-< to go
) to
) the start. You are claiming that's it's faster to take one hand off
) the keyboard (yes I type with both hands) move the scrollbar to the
) top and return my hand to the keyboard?
For one operation. How about all the operations to deal with
a document? In the various orders that you'd use in real
situations? What then? What is the average case? Have you actually
measured both with a stopwatch? "Feel" is subjective, and your mind
might be playing tricks on you...so you need that stopwatch.
) NOTE: I do not write code with
) the mouse. The primary tool when editing documents is the keyboard.
) Thus that's where you spend most of your time. The more time your
) spend there the faster it is. It's simple mathemetics.
No. There are human factors involved, and the intuitive answer is
not necessarily the correct answer. Often reality can be full of
astonishing little surprises.
) How the hell can the mouse be faster?
On average, you see, it is faster _for_Sean_. This is the
case for many people who are like Sean. Read the book Tog On
Interface, by Bruce Tognazzini, page 26 for starters. (If you
haven't read the whole book, DO IT NOW. It's well worth
anyone's time.) I quote, without permission:
"Test subjects consistently report that keyboarding is
faster than mousing.
The stopwatch consistently proves mousing is faster than
keyboarding.
This contradiction between user experience and reality
apparently forms the basis for many user/developers' belief
that the keyboard is faster.
People new to the mouse find the process of reaching for
it every time they want to do anything other than type to be
incredibly time-wasting. And therein lies the very advantage
of the mouse: It is boring to find it because the two second
search does not require high level cognitive engagement.
It takes two second to decide upon which special function
key to press. Deciding among the abstract symbols is a high
level cognitive function. Not only is this decision not
boring, the user actually experiences amnesia! Real amnesia!
The time slice spent making the decision simply ceases to exist.
While the keyboard users in this case feel as though they
have gained two seconds over the mouse users, the opposite is
really the case. Because while the keyboard users have
engaged in a process so fascinating that they have
experienced amnesia, the mouse users have been so disengaged
that they have been able to continue thinking about the task
they are trying to accomplish. They have not had to set
their task aside to think about or remember abstract symbols.
Hence, users achieve a significant productivity increase
with the mouse in spite of their subjective experience."
Of course you think the keyboard is faster, but have you
actually ever timed yourself on both mouse and keyboard and
checked the difference? And NOT for just one operation (like
jumping to the start of a document) but for, say, a complete
session? Until you've done that, you have no right to tell
Sean that his experience is rubbish. And you have no right
to tell us that the people who did the research are all wet.
Once you've done research of at least the same quality, then
go ahead and pontificate. And I'm sure that there could be
some people who are truly faster on keyboard only. I don't
believe that is anywhere near the majority, though!
At any rate, your argument against Tog's assertions seems to
be a classic example of the subjective effects Tog describes
in his explanation. In other words, you _feel_ faster on
keybaord, but that may not actually be the case. Remember,
too, that the search for the mouse--or the keyboard symbol to
use--won't be two seconds in every case, and that will depend
upon a lot of factors. But the whole process, when taken as
a whole, is apparently performed faster with both mouse and
keyboard in tandem. Also, Tog points out that the
command-key combos in conjunction with the mouse (like
cut/copy/paste) can be much faster with a two fisted
approach, using the keyboard and mouse in tandem. I find
this to be the case for some operations, and not the case for
others. It depends on how well I remember the command key
combination.
But to reiterate: There are logical arguments why keyboards
are faster, and on the surface they seem quite plausible.
But experimental evidence does not support the assertions, and
hard evidence means more to me (and Sean, obviously) than
"logical opinions". Grab the Tog book and read the letters
that came in response to Tog's column, and you'll see Tog's
answers to the further arguments I see you bringing up to extend
this thread. (In other words, before you continue the thread,
read the book, and make comment from there...)
Let me add one response, which would argue for making BOTH
interfaces available, and letting the user decide:
"...The second implementation was actually slower than the
first [...] However, the perception was that there was an immense
increase in speed. We stuck with the second implementation
because it increased the overall satisfaction of the user even
though it actually decreased the throughput of the product."
) >Since I've used Macs since 1984, I can whip
) >mice-based editors around at speeds that make many of my
) >keyboard-based friends
) >shudder. It depends on what you're used to.
)
) Do you touch type? Seriously, I want to know the answer to that
) question. I'm willing to bet you don't.
He does touch type. Incredibly fast, in fact! And with Sean
typing at light speed and using the mouse, he is a mean
contender, let me tell you. I have seen him running about in
Edit and he is quick, don't you doubt it.
) Nobody who can operate by
) touch typing would want to use the mouse.
Obviously, this particular True Fact(TM) does not hold in all
situations. Sean's comes to mind.
) The mouse offers one thing
) and one thing only. Precision. I only use the Mouse when I want
) precise selections. Precision, in the sense that it's quicker to
) define a precise area with the mouse than the keyboard.
To me, it offers the advantages Tog lists in the quote above. In
my experience, I too, am faster on a mouse + keyboard editor.
I touch type as well. Not as fast as Sean, but I'm no slouch.
So where's that leave us? Simply, go ahead and use what
makes you comfortable. If you feel faster on the keyboard
only go ahead and use it! Whether that is a subjective
opinion or objective fact is irrelevant since you ought to
use the environment in which you feel comfortable. And the best
environment is the one that allows both possibilities.
Please note that I am not advocating emacs or Edit. And you are
free to try and guess which one I use, but I won't tell you because
it doesn't matter: I use the one that makes me comfortable and gives
me all the features that I want and need. (And my choice of editor
will change any time something better comes along, of course.)
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX
Date: 12 May 94 11:32:40
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA
Message-ID: <SWIFT.94May12113240@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
References: <HORNKVJM.94May10153958@merlin.whitman.edu>
<2qpeoc$4kc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
<2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
In-reply-to: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM's message of 12 May 1994 01:30:38 -0500
In article <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) writes:
Supposing one (like me) does not know TeX, but it sounds impressive.
What's the best way to learn how to use it?
--
Randy Kunkee
Houston, TX
713-870-1334
kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
-------------
First, do not start with TeX, start with LaTeX, the macro package for TeX.
Begin to use LaTeX, and you will learn as much TeX as you need by osmosis.
The current release is LaTeX2e, which is a "minor release" between regular
LaTeX and a projected LaTeX3 (long way away).
If you want to read lengthy flame wars about these releases, their
documentation, the cost, and so on, pick up the thread in comp.text.tex. That
group is also the best place to go for help.
There are a couple of faq's on common problems using/installing tex.
There is a fantastic integrated ftp-archive for all sorts of tex things at
ftp.shsu.edu.
But I don't recommend either comp.text.tex or ftp.shsu.edu for a beginner --
except maybe to get the faq.
My recommendation is to buy Leslie Lamport's official LaTeX2e manual which
should be coming out this summer from Addison-Wesley. The first edition
describes the old LaTeX, the new one will be revised for LaTeX2e, and improved
a little. This is likely to be the only book you'll need for a long time. If
you're going to use the version of LaTeX shipped with NextStep 3.x, you can buy
the old manual, but it's probably worth your while, if you are starting a
TeX/LaTeX career now, to download LaTeX2e and work with that. TeX and LaTeX
are eminently portable and backward-compatible -- the suite of machine-specific
programs that form the important part of the NeXTTeX package will probably
never become obsolete, and certainly installing LaTeX2e is quite easy.
If you find yourself outgrowing LaTeX, it's time to buy the TeXbook, by Donald
Knuth, TeX's author, from Addison-Wesley.
If you find yourself using a lot of LaTeX packages, you will want to buy The
LaTeX Companion, which is a complementary reference to Lamport's book, and
primarily provides detailed information on standard packages.
I am cautious about these third-party books on TeX and LaTeX, and on my
knowledge, would not recommend them to anyone who can think for themselves.
Perhaps some of them are "cookbooks" with lots of examples and interesting
applications, but the ones I've thumbed are just substitutes for the manual, in
expanded hand-holding form usually, and may be viewed to take money away from
the actual authors of the software, which is provided free.
Feel free to email me if you have any more questions.
\closing{sincerely,}
Matt
From: pcu@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX
Date: 12 May 1994 15:42:30 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qtip6$ilc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
In article <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy
Kunkee) writes:
> In article <2qpeoc$4kc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>,
> Hal Varian <hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu> wrote:
> >I've produced 4 books using TeX and dozens of articles. The
> >TeX system on the NeXT is the best I've ever used. I expect
> >that you will be very happy with it.
> Supposing one (like me) does not know TeX, but it sounds impressive.
> What's the best way to learn how to use it?
Well, I haven't written any books as Hal has, but I second his opinion.
I recommend TeX by Example, Arvind Borde. One problem is, however, that the
examples don't make very good reference material, but they are a good tutorial.
--
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
Anything to me is sweeter,
Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
From: gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gil Rivlis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Summary: ispell
Date: 12 May 1994 15:58:13 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qtjml$gng@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I asked:
>> Anyone can tell me how to fix ispell 4.0 (or ioctl.h) so that
>> ispell 4.0 will compile on NS3.2?
and provided some compiling errors...
The answers I got are of two kinds:
(1) Use ispell 3.1 from ftp.cs.ucla.edu or ftp.math.orst.edu, in the
pub/ispell-3.1 directory on both sites. It is newer(!) and better. I ended
up getting 3.1.
(2) Fixes to the Makefile in 4.0. The one that worked for me is removing
the -DHAVE_TERMIOS=1 flag from the DEFS statement. Then it compiles with
some warnings.
Thanks to one and all.
Gil
---
Gil Rivlis, Physics Department, The Ohio State University
gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu NeXTMail Capable
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Port of Standard ML 0.93 to NEXTSTEP for Intel processors
Date: 12 May 1994 22:26:19 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <2quaeb$no@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
The CSDMteam at the University of Munich proudly presents the port of Standard
ML of NJ, version 0.93, to NEXTSTEP for Intel processors.
The modified source can be found at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:
/pub/comp/programming/languages/sml/NJ-0.93/93.src.nsfip.tar.Z (please look at
the installation instructions in the file README.NeXT.I386).
A precompiled binary of the interpreter (gzip'ed) is located at
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/languages/ml
/sml.0.93.I.b.gz.
Regards
Robert Stabl.
--
Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Computer Science Institute Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316
University of Munich FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310
Leopoldstr. 11B "Wer die Wahrheit nicht weiss, der ist bloss ein
D-80802 Muenchen Dummkopf. Aber wer sie weiss und sie eine Luege
Germany nennt, der ist ein Verbrecher!" B.Brecht,"Galileo"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Message-ID: <1994May12.172332.2611@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <2qti6l$hpp@bones.et.byu.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 17:23:32 GMT
In article <2qti6l$hpp@bones.et.byu.edu> Don_Yacktman@byu.edu writes:
Tog says:
> It takes two second to decide upon which special function
> key to press. Deciding among the abstract symbols is a high
> level cognitive function. Not only is this decision not
> boring, the user actually experiences amnesia! Real amnesia!
> The time slice spent making the decision simply ceases to exist.
But surely this is only true for users new to a program? An experienced touch
typist won't even look at the keyboard, never mind puzzle about what the
symbols mean. I suspect the "test subjects" were not experienced users.
But it all depends on what sort of program you're talking about, and what
sort of operations you're doing. With edit programs, I agree that having
switched from vi to Edit, it's much easier to select the insertion point
with the mouse. With a newsreader there's no benefit to having a mouse.
Dave Griffiths
From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 12 May 1994 17:24:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2qtoo5$28j@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <2qtcid$fer@acme.gatech.edu>
John writes
<marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg) writes:
<
<>NeXT is working on an IMPLEMENTATION of OpenStep on Mach.
<
<I'm curious.. do you know if this implimentation of openstep
<would be available for MachTen on the Mac? Might solve concerns
<about Nextstep on the powermacs.. It would be noticably slower,
<but still...
<
<John
<
<--
<John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu)
< Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu)
<========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
Actually I have no idea what NeXT's plans are with regard to the underlying
OS. NS3.2 runs on something which is basically Mach2.5. I don't know if
they are changing that in a future release.
--
Mark Anenberg , OpenStep Development Team
Email: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (NeXTMail Welcome)
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and
in no way represent those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
From: vasu@beancounter.commerce.ubc.ca (Vasu Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer Crashes
Date: 12 May 1994 18:16:36 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <2qtrq4$5cg@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
During the last few months there has been a steady stream of posts on
frequent crashes by NewsGrazer. Since NG wasn't exhibiting this behavior
on my machine, I ignored the discussion. However, NG inexplicably caught
the disease yesterday, so would some kind soul e-mail me any known fixes?
I am running NG version 75 on NeXT hardware with NS 3.2.
Thanks in advance.
--
Vasu Krishnamurthy
Assistant Professor
Faculty of Commerce and Business Administration
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z2
CANADA
From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep [should be Emacs vs Edit, Keystrokes vs mouse movements]
Date: 12 May 1994 18:40:20 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
Message-ID: <BHILL.94May12114021@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
References: <2qti6l$hpp@bones.et.byu.edu> <1994May12.172332.2611@prim.demon.co.uk>
In-reply-to: dave@prim.demon.co.uk's message of Thu, 12 May 1994 17:23:32 GMT
>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> writes:
Dave> In article <2qti6l$hpp@bones.et.byu.edu> Don_Yacktman@byu.edu writes:
Dave> Tog says:
>> It takes two second to decide upon which special function
>> key to press. Deciding among the abstract symbols is a high
>> level cognitive function. Not only is this decision not
>> boring, the user actually experiences amnesia! Real amnesia!
>> The time slice spent making the decision simply ceases to exist.
Dave> But surely this is only true for users new to a program? An experienced touch
Dave> typist won't even look at the keyboard, never mind puzzle about what the
Dave> symbols mean. I suspect the "test subjects" were not experienced users.
I am a touch typist and an experienced emacs user, and nevertheless
this stuff quoted from "Tog" resonates with me.
The interruption and amnesia one experiences (or doesn't experience to
be precise) may be in part what emacs users are trying so hard to
avoid when they spend time customizing their emacs environment. (The other,
more commonly stated goal is simply reduction of keystrokes.)
Many emacs keyboard commands become second nature. Cursor motion commands
are clearly in that category. People write elisp code that tries
to take advantage of that intuitiveness in new situations, and very often
the result is successful. The keystrokes that are second nature often
do appropriate, related things in new emacs modes. --Brian Hill
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX
Date: 12 May 1994 17:48:21 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May12184821@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> <2qtip6$ilc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
To: pcu@umich.edu
In-reply-to: pcu@umich.edu's message of 12 May 1994 15:42:30 GMT
Having picked up the ORA Emacs book (it's quite good) I'll recommend
that you consider the new ORA "Making TeX work" book also...
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compiling PGP on an Intel box
Date: 12 May 1994 19:15:04 GMT
Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SHIVERS.94May12151504@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
In-reply-to: captain@arsenal.com's message of 12 May 1994 07:48:43 GMT
I had the same problem Andrew Foster had. The makefile entry for next
seems to be for black hardware. I used the following Makefile entry:
next486:
$(MAKE) all \
CFLAGS="$(RSAINCDIR) -O -DNEXT -DUNIX -DMACH -DPORTABLE -DIDEA32 -DNOTERMIO"
It all seems to work now. The big flaw with the black hardware entry was that
it specified correct endianness for the 68k, which is backwards for the x86
archtecture.
-Olin
From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: bsd binaries -> Mach-O
Date: 12 May 1994 19:32:08 GMT
Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SHIVERS.94May12153208@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
I have a program compiled as a Unix 486 binaries that I would like to run on
my NS 486 box. I have copies of it compiled for SCO Unix, an NCR 386,
and Interactive's Unix. If I can get any of these binaries to run on
my box, I'm fine.
Is there any way to turn one of these files into a NeXTSTEP Mach-O file?
(The program is NCD's split X server. They can't be bothered to support
NeXTSTEP.)
-Olin
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Crashes
Date: 12 May 1994 21:09:05 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2qu5th$i7e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <2qtrq4$5cg@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <2qtrq4$5cg@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
Vasu Krishnamurthy <vasu@beancounter.commerce.ubc.ca> wrote:
>During the last few months there has been a steady stream of posts on
>frequent crashes by NewsGrazer. Since NG wasn't exhibiting this behavior
>on my machine, I ignored the discussion. However, NG inexplicably caught
>the disease yesterday, so would some kind soul e-mail me any known fixes?
>
>I am running NG version 75 on NeXT hardware with NS 3.2.
>
I'm running NG 75 on NS 3.0 - and mine crashees when I attempt to catch
up on newsgroups. <GRR>.
Anyone?
--
*** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University ***
Gun control isn't about guns, it's about control.
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Cub'X Windows & Miro video card
Date: 12 May 1994 22:22:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2qua6l$jsa@Times.Stanford.EDU>
FYI, looks like Cub'X doesn't work well with the Miro card, but will soon.
I recieved the following from someone at Intuitive Systems:
-Karl
------
To: Karl Pfleger <kpfleger@HPP.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: trouble running Cub'XWindows demo 4.39
Dear Sir,
Thanks for your interest in Cub'X-Window.
We're sorry there are problems with Cub'X-Window running on
configurations with a Miro video board. This is something we're
working on right now, an the patch will be ready before the end of
next week.
[stuff deleted]
Intuitive Systems, Inc.
P.O. Box 60849
Palo Alto, CA 94306
USA
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hints on using Emacs for NeXTstep
Date: 12 May 1994 23:07:42 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2qucru$1me@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <2qti6l$hpp@bones.et.byu.edu> <1994May12.172332.2611@prim.demon.co.uk>
Dave Griffiths (dave@prim.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <2qti6l$hpp@bones.et.byu.edu> Don_Yacktman@byu.edu writes:
: Tog says:
: > It takes two second to decide upon which special function
: > key to press. Deciding among the abstract symbols is a high
: > level cognitive function. Not only is this decision not
: > boring, the user actually experiences amnesia! Real amnesia!
: > The time slice spent making the decision simply ceases to exist.
: But surely this is only true for users new to a program? An experienced touch
: typist won't even look at the keyboard, never mind puzzle about what the
: symbols mean. I suspect the "test subjects" were not experienced users.
Tog's examples are indeed with beginning users. But later research has shown
that experienced mouse users are also generally faster than experienced
keyboard users. There are exceptions, of course: Windows users are usually
so much slower than Mac users that they are getting pretty close to keyboard
users.
There are lots of weird issues involved here. I'll list three to give you
a feel of what's going on in some of these circles:
1) There is a law in psychology that says that the farther away a thing is,
and the smaller it is, the harder it is to nail it. This spells doom
for much current bad interface design: all the important stuff is on
the periphery (the trash can, the menus, etc.) where it's tough to hit
with the mouse.
In Windows, menu bars aren't on the edge of the screen (have no backstop)
so they're _incredibly_ hard to hit. And since they're still in the
periphery, the menu-in-a-window design is considered the toughest menu
to hit, which explains why Windows users are so slow compared to Mac users.
On the Mac, the menu bar is on the periphery, but it's got a backstop.
This means that users don't have to precisely hit the menu bar, they just
have to slam their mice into the top of the screen and press the button.
It's as if the Mac's menu bar was infinitely tall--because it's so big,
it's very easy to hit. As a result, experienced Mac users can do work
often MUCH faster than keyboard users, and of course much faster than
Windows users. There are other similar things that the Mac does, but
the Menu bar is a good example of Good Interface Design vs. Bad Design.
On the NeXT, periphery is a problem--NeXT's menus are very very very very
hard to hit because they're basically small buttons stacked on top of
each other with only a backstop on the left (which isn't too useful).
However, the NeXT provides a menu button which puts the menu right at
the user focus (where the cursor is), making it easy to hit. Yet NeXT
blew it in other ways also: the dock isn't on the right edge of the
screen, so you can't hit apps there by just slamming your mouse to the
edge...you have to precisely hit the icon itself. Thankfully, this isn't
the case for all the icons on the bottom of the screen.
I guess the point of #1 is to show that NeXT's interface needs work to
be truly fast to get around in, but it's not too bad at the moment.
2) The problem with keyboards for experienced users is that the cognitive
time spent searching our memory bank for that precise keystroke necessary
to do item foo is much longer than the time spent remembering where it is
in the menu structure for mousing because the menu structure is _visual_,
which is much easier for us to conceptualize. MUCH easier. Hence the
move towards visual paradigms like sheets of paper==windows, Magic Cap,
icons, "buttons", drag-and-drop, etc.
However, this cognitive time can be reduced if the user is performing
operation X all the time--it gets moved into a small "cache", so to speak.
As a result, a small number of common operations _are_ faster to do by
keybaord than mouse if you do them over and over, and there aren't many
of them. In fact, too many memorized key equivalents in the "cache"
actually slows down the cache--it's reduced to a simple keyboard interface.
This doesn't mean keyboards are faster than mice. Just that for a small
"cache" of common operations, keyboards are. In all other instances,
mice are much faster. Thus the ideal interface, speed-wise, is in fact
a mouse-based interface that has key equivalents for specific common
operations, but not necessarily all (the 80/20 rule says too many key
equivalents make no difference in speed--yes, the 80/20 rule applies to
our minds as well as to computers. :-) The key is finding the right
keyboard options for the cache.
As a result of all this research, we've got key equivalents on Mac and
NeXT interfaces. If you think an application should have option X be
a key equivalent, it's not because the OS didn't provide _all_ keyboard
equivalents, but because it didn't provide the right ones in the cache.
For example, copy ruler is a stupid key equivalent option, but there
should be a key equivalent option to make other windows the key window.
It's a design thing.
This means that in general, speed-wise, the order is:
Mouse-based interface with well-picked key equivalents.
Mouse-based interface.
Keyboard-based interface.
3) Depending on the operation, mice have been shown to have a VERY big
advantage over keyboards if the operation is "graphical". I don't mean
drawing. I mean selecting text, moving the cursor position, scrolling,
drag-and-drop, etc. Places where the keyboard "cache" come in handy are
stuff like find-and-replace, precision cursor positioning ("move over one
character"), cut and paste, etc. Anything that doesn't have visual and
hand-eye relationships at all. In other words, good picks for the
cache are things that, well, aren't "natural". Strange, huh?
Guys, this isn't advocacy, so I don't want to go into it any more than this.
But let's just say that we think we're fast with what we're used to. But if
you compare experienced mouse users and experienced keyboard users, mouse
users are consistently faster over work periods, though keyboard users
are faster for a small number of very specific common operations. But you'll
see experienced mouse users doing keyboard equivalents for that "cache", and
they're of course just as fast in that case.
...Coming to you from tin, a keyboard-based news reader, in a NeXTSTEP
terminal window (don't ask)...
: But it all depends on what sort of program you're talking about, and what
: sort of operations you're doing. With edit programs, I agree that having
: switched from vi to Edit, it's much easier to select the insertion point
: with the mouse. With a newsreader there's no benefit to having a mouse.
Actually, with a newsreader, your only major actions are: enter/exit
newsgroup, go to next article, and a few more. So over all, yes, with a
news reader, a mouse is not a big deal. But there are still some advantages
to having a mouse, mostly with navigating existing article lists to get the
one you want. For me, NewsGrazer does this a lot faster than scrolling by
keyboard...
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) UCLA CS in September |
+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------+
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: open - a replacement for /usr/bin/open
Date: 13 May 1994 00:16:46 GMT
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <2qugte$fug@elna.ethz.ch>
some people have been asking me, what exactly was broken in NeXT's
open. Since 3.1 it's no longer possbible to do things like 'open -a
Edit somefile' if the Public Window Server is turned off.
Furthermore, there have been problems with the tcsh completition
stuff. Thanks to Scott Anguish for telling me about this, here is an
updated version of what you should add to your .tcshrc to change the
behavior of the listing and file-completion in tcsh.
You will need to customize the list of hosts you want to use together
with -NXHost. (substitute 'host1 host2')
set nexthosts= (host1 host2)
set nextapps=`/bin/ls -1 ~/Apps /LocalApps /LocalDeveloper/Apps /NextAdmin /NextApps /NextDeveloper/Apps /NextDeveloper/Demos |& grep '\.app$' | sort -u | sed 's/\.app$//g' `
complete appopen 'p/1/$nextapps/' 'n/-a/$nextapps/' 'n/-NXHost/$nexthosts/' 'c/-/(a o p NXHost unhide nostat wait temp)/' 'n/*/f/'
complete unhide 'p/1/$nextapps/' 'n/-a/$nextapps/' 'n/-NXHost/$nexthosts/' 'c/-/(a o p NXHost unhide nostat wait temp)/' 'n/*/f/'
complete run 'p/1/$nextapps/' 'n/-a/$nextapps/' 'n/-NXHost/$nexthosts/' 'c/-/(a o p NXHost unhide nostat wait temp)/' 'n/*/f/'
complete open 'n/-a/$nextapps/' 'n/-NXHost/$nexthosts/' 'c/-/(a o p NXHost unhide nostat wait temp)/' 'n/*/f/'
christian
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From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: Routing Etalk and IPX
Message-ID: <CppssA.83D@news.otago.ac.nz>
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
Organization: University of Otago
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 00:16:58 GMT
Hi everyone,
We are looking at using a PC or HP712 with two ethernet adapters as a
router/firewall so we can subnet our department. Simple enough for
IP, but we have Macs and PC using EtherTalk and Novell IPX on the
same strand of ethernet. Can we configure the firewall/router to pass
the Etalk and IPX packets, but do the selective blocking of IP
packets we need? Can we do it with NeXTSTEP? with a 3rd party
product?, some other way?
Thanks,
Alastair
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From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: Re: TeX
Message-ID: <1994May12.145555.21567@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 14:55:55 GMT
In article <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy
Kunkee) writes:
Go to your Library and check out LaTeX by Lesley Lamport (sp?) LaTeX is
kind of an easy to use TeX. It is really aset of macros laid on top of
TeX, and it comes with NeXT.
> Supposing one (like me) does not know TeX, but it sounds impressive.
> What's the best way to learn how to use it?
> --
> Randy Kunkee
> Houston, TX
> 713-870-1334
> kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Poker: 5-card Stud
Date: 13 May 1994 02:22:36 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <2quo9c$h4d@network.ucsd.edu>
Does anyone know where one can get a 5-card Stud Poker that runs on
NS? There is a 5-card Draw game on NeXT machines, and it is quite
good as it goes, but one would like to have a real Poker game.
Or could someone convert the Draw Version?
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help with EMACS question - termcap
Message-ID: <1994May12.090720.17640@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 12 May 94 09:07:20 EDT
References: <1994May6.114058.17605@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
Summary: Emacs use as a terminal
In article <1994May6.114058.17605@umiami.ir.miami.edu>, therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
> I am revisiting an old problem now that I have the
> new Emacs 4.0 for NeXTstep -
>
> When I put up a shell and connect to the outside
> world, I get a message about termcap not being
> able to read the proper configuration. Also, when
> I then telnet to another computer, at best, I get
> control characters showing up - like ^M.
>
> It seems that I have to do something with the termcap
> file but it is not clear to me what to do, even after
> spending sometime with emacs books.
>
> Tom Herbert
>
In all the discussion of Edit vs. Emacs, has anyone
seen my post on a practical question of using Emacs
as a terminal?
I will be on vacation for three weeks but I would
appreciate hearing from anyone who has a solution.
therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Thomas J. Herbert
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Subject: cancel <1994May12.090622.17639@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
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Date: 12 May 94 09:07:43 EDT
Control: cancel <1994May12.090622.17639@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
cancel <1994May12.090622.17639@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
From: loan4u2@aol.com (LOAN4U2)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Forsale NS3.1 DEV CD Intel
Date: 13 May 1994 01:19:03 -0400
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NS for Intel Developer CD Version 3.1 with free upgrade to 3.2. Includes all
manuals and is unregistered. 3 CD's in all. Only $500
Email or Call (303)884-9632
From: richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 12 May 1994 06:36:02 -0700
Organization: runner
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Does Mosaic exist on the NeXT (68k) ??? Where is it?
--
Richard
richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
(ok to send NeXT Mail)
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From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: Re: X on a ND
Message-ID: <CppJBE.M5@chemelex.com>
Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Organization: Research Group of Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation
References: <94130.105427HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 20:52:25 GMT
<HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes
> Hi:
>
> I've been told that X will not run on an ND system. Can
anyone verify or
> refute this? I recall it was in a letter from one of the
dealers of an
> X-emulator, but that doesn't mean the competition doesn't
support the ND!
>
I have Cub'X on my ND, works fine, but need for speed I don't
use color. I've not notice a big problem and Claire from
intuitive systems, inc was very helpful in getting it up and
running on my ND.
Thanks Claire and great app....
Fred
(happy customer)
--
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From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: virtspace.app available?
Message-ID: <CppJHw.Mw@chemelex.com>
Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Organization: Research Group of Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 20:56:19 GMT
Hello, anyone know if the virtspace.app (from the NeXT Education
Sampler is available? Since the app on the cd is dated Oct 92,
I'm assuming the students that wrote it have moved on...
Anyone, know which large NeXTstep software houses these guys
work at (or bought the app)... Garrick Toubassi or David Koski
Thanks,
Fred Schenkelberg
NeXTmail enjoyed
fms@chemelex.com
Redwood City, CA
--
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From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem compiling Spice3 on NS FIP.
Date: 13 May 1994 01:57:33 -0700
Message-ID: <2qvfdt$8sh@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
Hi,
I am having problem in compiling Spice3 on NS FIP. The following are what I
got and the compilation process stopped.
(Compilation messages deleted)
Making "all" in bin
cc -c -O -g -I/usr/include/bsd/sys -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src/include -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src//lib/dev/ -DSIMULATOR /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/bin//main.c
mv -f main.o spice3.o
cc -O -g -I/usr/include/bsd/sys -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src/include -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src//lib/dev/ -c conf.c
cc -O -g -I/usr/include/bsd/sys -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src/include -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src//lib/dev/ -c tune.c
cc -o spice3 spice3.o conf.o tune.o /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/fte.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/dev.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/ckt.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/cp.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/hlp.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/inp.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/mfb.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/ni.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/sparse.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/misc.a -L/usr/lib -lXaw -lXt -lXext -lXmu -lX11 -lposix -lm -ltermlib
ld: Undefined symbols:
_WTERMSIG
_WEXITSTATUS
*** Exit 1
cc -c -O -g -I/usr/include/bsd/sys -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src/include -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src//lib/dev/ /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/bin//main.c
mv -f main.o nutmeg.o
cc -O -g -I/usr/include/bsd/sys -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src/include -I/Chenkosol/Spice3/src//lib/dev/ -c nconf.c
cc -o nutmeg nutmeg.o nconf.o tune.o /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/fte.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/cp.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/hlp.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/mfb.a /Chenkosol/Spice3/src/lib/misc.a -L/usr/lib -lXaw -lXt -lXext -lXmu -lX11 -lposix -lm -ltermlib
ld: Undefined symbols:
_WTERMSIG
_WEXITSTATUS
*** Exit 1
Did I do anything wrong or missing soething here ?
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Pitak
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From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: Re: TeX
Message-ID: <CppBAu.Ks9@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <HORNKVJM.94May10153958@merlin.whitman.edu> <2qpeoc$4kc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.neosoft.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 17:59:18 GMT
In article <2qsiee$f9v@sugar.neosoft.com>,
Randy Kunkee <kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> wrote:
>Supposing one (like me) does not know TeX, but it sounds impressive.
>What's the best way to learn how to use it?
Pick up the _TeX book_ (or the _LaTeX book_, if you want to go that
route) and work through some examples. Then, find someone who uses
TeX whose work looks like what you want to produce, and ask if you can
look through their TeX source. It's how I did it.
BTW, LaTeX is a bunch of macros that provide a much simpler (IMHO)
front-end to TeX. I use LaTeX almost exclusively, but that's a matter
of debate.
Dave
--
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NeXTmail ok
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC video card?
Date: 13 May 1994 11:28:54 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2qvo9m$aj2@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Hi
Does anybody know a way to run progs requiring hercules or VGA on SoftPC
(very old version with only CGA/EGA-support!)?
Thanx in advance
--
Sven Droll
sdroll@wmax68.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
"Faszinierend!" (Mr. Spock)
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 13 May 1994 12:45:03 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA
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richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu writes
> Does Mosaic exist on the NeXT (68k) ??? Where is it?
Sure does--it's called OmniWeb.app. You can get it via anonymous ftp at
alice.fmi.uni-passau.de:/pub/NeXT/Apps/OmniWeb.0.6.2.NI.b.app.tar.gz.
I compared it side-by-side with Mosaic (running under co-Xist) and it's very
similar. One feature I like better about OmniWeb is that you can always tell
where you're at in the hierarchy by looking at the browser.
Denise
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Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 13 May 1994 13:29:28 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
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To: blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
In-reply-to: blake015@mc.duke.edu's message of 13 May 1994 12:45:03 GMT
<blake015@mc.duke.edu> writes:
>richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu writes
>>Does Mosaic exist on the NeXT (68k) ??? Where is it?
>Sure does--it's called OmniWeb.app. You can get it via anonymous ftp at
>alice.fmi.uni-passau.de:/pub/NeXT/Apps/OmniWeb.0.6.2.NI.b.app.tar.gz.
Please do not call Mosaic OmniWeb..
OmniWeb is a WWW browser _in development_ it is _NOT_ Mosaic.
>I compared it side-by-side with Mosaic (running under co-Xist) and it's very
>similar. One feature I like better about OmniWeb is that you can always tell
>where you're at in the hierarchy by looking at the browser.
Well given the ambiguity in the original question... it is possible to
get Mosaic working under an X-emulator and binaries exist already on
sonata and cs.orst.edu
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ??? (FIX YOUR FROM:)
Date: 13 May 1994 13:41:18 GMT
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To: blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
In-reply-to: blake015@mc.duke.edu's message of 13 May 1994 12:45:03 GMT
Yet another user who hasn't a correct From: address.
blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley)
^
Hint: there should be a space here.
Folks, you owe it to yourself to attempt to reply to your own posts to
check that your reply-to/from: address is valid.
Otherwise you are just inconviencing those people who on occasion will
be trying to help you.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 13 May 1994 14:49:57 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA
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References: <ROBERT.94May13142928@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson writes
> <blake015@mc.duke.edu> writes:
>
> >richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu writes
> >>Does Mosaic exist on the NeXT (68k) ??? Where is it?
>
> >Sure does--it's called OmniWeb.app. You can get it via anonymous ftp at
> >alice.fmi.uni-passau.de:/pub/NeXT/Apps/OmniWeb.0.6.2.NI.b.app.tar.gz.
>
> Please do not call Mosaic OmniWeb..
>
> OmniWeb is a WWW browser _in development_ it is _NOT_ Mosaic.
I don't believe I called Mosaic OmniWeb; if anything, I called OmniWeb Mosaic.
At any rate, it's a matter of semantics because I understood the guy to be
asking for the name of whatever NeXTSTEP app exists that's similar to Mosaic.
And that's what I gave him.
Denise
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Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
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From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Re: DockPrint semi-fails under NS3.2
Message-ID: <Cpr08n.AHI@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
References: <1994May12.134017.10706@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 15:55:34 GMT
In article <1994May12.134017.10706@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu) writes:
|Hello NeXT'ers,
|
|I have this application, DockPrint, from NS2.0 days that has semi-failed
since
|upgrading to NS3.2 (on a mono slab) and I'm wondering if anyone
|
|a) knows how I might fix this and/or
|b) knows of a similar application that works properly under NS3.2
|
DockPrint also fails under NS3.0 from the Dock. Thanks for the tip that it
does work if started first from the fileviewer. Note that if it is in your
Dock, *and* you autostart it on login (via Preferences), I bet it would work
that way too, but this is just a guess.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
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From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: tn3270 and mainframe (Tektronics) graphics
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Organization: York University
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 16:22:04 GMT
I'm looking for a way to get IBM mainframe graphics displayed in a terminal
window. I normally use tn3270 in a Terminal window for mainframe access, and
the graphics are generated by SAS, for which there are zillions of drivers,
including Tektronics 4010, which I use mostly.
By netgrazing I found a newer version of tn3270, version 4.1.1, built for Tek
4010 support with tektools on Sun systems via something called 'transcom'.
Before I try to build this for NS (black, 3.0), is there some way to display
Tek 4010 graphics in a terminal window? Neither Terminal or Stuart appear to
support graphics.
Are there other solutions to the general problem stated at the start I should
consider?
Has anyone build this new tn3270 for NS?
I'd be grateful for any help with the above.
thx,
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
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From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell Silverman)
Subject: Re: TeX
Message-ID: <Cpp7Lo.K97@mtkgc.com>
Sender: news@mtkgc.com
Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC
References: <2qpeoc$4kc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 16:39:24 GMT
In article 4kc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu, hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) writes:
>In article <HORNKVJM.94May10153958@merlin.whitman.edu> hornkvjm@merlin.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) writes:
>>Hi!
>>
>>I am looking into buying NeXTStep, and I would like to know about the
>>availability of a good TeX. I remember having heard that one is
>>delivered with the OS; in that case, how good is it? And if it's bad,
>>where can I get a better one? (Preferably PD or educational
>>discount...;)
>
>I've produced 4 books using TeX and dozens of articles. The
>TeX system on the NeXT is the best I've ever used. I expect
>that you will be very happy with it.
>
I agree, the Next TeX app is excellent, far better than any competing TeX wrapper.
For a more full blown GUI version of TeX, get InstantTeX, it is great. With InstantTeX
you can forget all those silly codes, and just worry about writing your documents.
My 0.00101010101111011101. --good luck, RS
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sparcs running NS & Mach?
Date: 13 May 1994 16:52:29 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2r0b8d$o66@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <2qqrmu$5d7@news1.digex.net> <2qrpl5$k8l@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM>
Mark Anenberg (marka@Eng.Sun.COM) wrote:
: There seems to be a bit of confusion here.
: Sun is implementing OpenStep on Solaris on Sparc; this will be a Sun product.
: NeXT is implementing OpenStep on Mach; this will be a NeXT product.
: Next is porting NEXTSTEP, the current implementatation which runs on Mach,
: to Sparc hardware; this is a NeXT product.
Could this be a hint for NEXTSTEP/PPC ? Probably a brain-dead thought,
but: IBMs Workplace/OS runs on top of Mach 3.0 (?), so perhaps NeXT
could just sit down and wait until the Mach kernel runs fine on PPC and
then do the necessary hardware-dependent works.
Gregor
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 13 May 1994 16:37:41 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
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To: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
In-reply-to: blake015@mc.duke.edu's message of 13 May 1994 14:49:57 GMT
<blake015@mc.duke.edu> writes:
>Robert Nicholson writes
>><blake015@mc.duke.edu> writes:
>>
>>>richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu writes
>>>>Does Mosaic exist on the NeXT (68k) ??? Where is it?
>>
>>>Sure does--it's called OmniWeb.app. You can get it via anonymous ftp at
>>>alice.fmi.uni-passau.de:/pub/NeXT/Apps/OmniWeb.0.6.2.NI.b.app.tar.gz.
>>
>>Please do not call Mosaic OmniWeb..
>>
>>OmniWeb is a WWW browser _in development_ it is _NOT_ Mosaic.
>I don't believe I called Mosaic OmniWeb; if anything, I called OmniWeb Mosaic.
>At any rate, it's a matter of semantics because I understood the guy to be
>asking for the name of whatever NeXTSTEP app exists that's similar to Mosaic.
>And that's what I gave him.
The original poster asked for Mosaic. You said...
"Sure it does.." Not... "Yes but there's also this great NeXTSTEP
native application called OmniWeb"
I interpreted him to mean that he wanted Mosaic for Co-Xist or
Cub/X... If he wanted the former he should have said..
Is there a WWW browser for NeXTSTEP... Then OmniWeb is the obvious answer.
When you say "Sure it does" you are implying that the app you are
recommending provides essentially the same facilities as Mosaic.
Currently OmniWeb does not.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 13 May 1994 17:21:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2r0cuc$fos@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2r042l$3tk@news.duke.edu>
In article <2r042l$3tk@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes:
>Robert Nicholson writes
>> <blake015@mc.duke.edu> writes:
>>
>> >richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu writes
>> >>Does Mosaic exist on the NeXT (68k) ??? Where is it?
>>
>> >Sure does--it's called OmniWeb.app. You can get it via anonymous ftp at
>> >alice.fmi.uni-passau.de:/pub/NeXT/Apps/OmniWeb.0.6.2.NI.b.app.tar.gz.
>>
>> Please do not call Mosaic OmniWeb..
>>
>> OmniWeb is a WWW browser _in development_ it is _NOT_ Mosaic.
>
>I don't believe I called Mosaic OmniWeb; if anything, I called OmniWeb Mosaic.
>At any rate, it's a matter of semantics ...
Whether we like it or not, Mosaic has almost come to mean *any* WWW browser
almost as in "Xerox machines from Kodak, Canon, IBM" esp. among casual
users. It's fast becoming a generic name.
When a question as in the originally post comes up, it's probably
safe to assume that the person is looking for *any* WWW browser
unless noted otherwise.
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Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
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From: tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Bug in Emacs for NS 4.0?
Date: 13 May 1994 13:30:54 GMT
Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Center Line, MI
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <TMS.94May13093054@litespeed.cfc.com>
'indent-region' seems to be broken in either Emacs for NS 4.0. I took
a completely unindented C program, set a mark at the beginning, moved
the cursor to the end, then hit M-C-\, and nothing happened. This
should have indented the whole thing nicely. (At least it did in
emacs 18... :-) If I mark a section of about 10 lines and hit M-C-\
it works. What's the deal?
Todd
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|_| |_|\/|_|____| is a cold fire. - Rush
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Help with EMACS question - termcap
In-Reply-To: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu's message of 12 May 94 09:07:20 EDT
Message-ID: <BYER.94May13110007@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <1994May6.114058.17605@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
<1994May12.090720.17640@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 18:00:07 GMT
therbert writes:
>> When I put up a shell and connect to the outside world, I get a message
>> about termcap not being able to read the proper configuration. Also,
>> when I then telnet to another computer, at best, I get control characters
>> showing up - like ^M.
While not the prettiest thing to do, I end up setting up a filter proc for
all my shell processes. Most of the reason to do this is to do escape-based
information communication between the subshell and Emacs (it's amazing how
reliable "cd" can really be :-). But, I've also added code to strip out
those gunky characters.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
From: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Programming in Edit ? : Page up/down on a CommandKey
Date: 13 May 1994 18:44:14 GMT
Organization: University of Constance
Message-ID: <2r0hpu$h7h@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
Hello
Unfortunately I miss one ability in Edit. On PC's we have extra
page up / page down keys which make it pretty fast if you prefer to
work only with your keyboard. I really miss this ability. But maybe
there is a way to implement this also in the current version
of Edit. Is there any expert out there, who has already find out
how to do this.
I have seen, that there is an option: "emacs key binding". Is there a
a way to program keys similar to Emacs (I mean in a much simpler
way !).
If someone has already an solution for this, I would appreciate
if this expert could send me or to the whole group some hints.
If this is not the case, Next should take this question as an
suggestions for an improvement of Edit in NS 3.3 or 4.0.
Best wishes
Erland
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Phone: +(49) 7531-88-3747 FAX. +(49) 7531-88-3888
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: emstech@music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician)
Subject: AppleTalk
Message-ID: <1994May13.183003.9233@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 18:30:03 GMT
;-),
Does anybody know who makes the AppleTalk application that came with
NS3.0.
Is it still available ? If not, is there another product that will mount
Apple machines on the NeXT. It will be very nice to be able to backup the
Mac's on the NeXT BK system :-).
Thanks
--
Alain Terriault
System Operator
Music Faculty, Mcgill University
Montreal, Canada
Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: internet access from home - how?
Message-ID: <Cpq9qH.ArJ@nexusadmin.com>
Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Nexus Administration
References: <2pot3f$lbl@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 06:23:04 GMT
Jay P. Trimble writes
!> I have a 486 machine running NEXTSTEP at home and I would like to be able
!> to connect to internet. Can anyone advise me on the best software and the
!> best access method? I would like to be able to send NeXTMail, use
!> Newsgrazer etc.
!>
!> Thanks for any help.
!>
!> Jay
If you just want NeXTMail and News then UUCP is the simplest setup. You can't
telnet or FTP. UUCP software is supplied with NEXTSTEP, so you don't need to
buy anything. You can read about the configuration in the on-line Sys Admin
docs, Chapter 12. If you need help, just email.
SLIP is the next level up. You can get a free SLIP package from the archives or
pay for CSLIP from TransSys ($150) which is faster. Alternatively you can get
the best, which is PPP from Morning Star ($795). SLIP, CSLIP, and PPP all give
you a live connection to the Internet and you can do anything you can do there
at work: Email, News, Telnet, FTP, Gopher, WWW, ...
You also need to find out if you would be connecting through JPL or a
commercial Internet provider?
Regards,
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Sparcs running NS & Mach?
Message-ID: <CpqABE.At7@nexusadmin.com>
Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Nexus Administration
References: <2qqrmu$5d7@news1.digex.net>
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 06:35:37 GMT
John Todd writes
!> Now I understand that OpenStep is a Great Leap Forward, but it's still
!> running over Solaris. I've talked with several vhemently non-Solaris Sun
!> programmers, and they desperately want to see NS running on the Sparcs but
!> layered over Mach.
!> I have seen Mach 3 running on Sparcs. What's the big problem with running
!> NS on top of Mach, instead of Solaris? I've even heard a programmer from
!> Sun (first hand) tell me: "Yes, it's official. There *is* a port of
!> Mach-based NS in the works. I thought everyone knew that. There will be TWO
!> versions of NeXTSTEP, one over Solaris, one over Mach." I've had the same
!> thing told to me, as an unofficial rumor, by someone at NeXT who would have
!> a VERY good clue if this was happing or not.
!> Am I just behind the curve here? Does everyone but me know that there are
!> to be two versions of NS for the Sparc platforms? I know that NeXT would
!> make three immediate sales here at Digex if they had a Sparc/Mach based
!> package...
!>
Yep! You're way behind on the curve. It's very public info that there will be
a native NEXTSTEP port to SPARC and OpenStep will be in every copy of Solaris
someday. If you like, I can email you all kinds of press releases and
supporting documentia!
Ciao!
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu)
Subject: Re: DockPrint semi-fails under NS3.2
Message-ID: <1994May13.200836.18760@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Sender: usenet@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario.
References: <Cpr08n.AHI@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 20:08:36 GMT
In article <Cpr08n.AHI@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
(Michael Friendly) writes:
>In article <1994May12.134017.10706@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
>DockPrint also fails under NS3.0 from the Dock. Thanks for the tip that it
>does work if started first from the fileviewer. Note that if it is in your
>Dock, *and* you autostart it on login (via Preferences), I bet it would work
>that way too, but this is just a guess.
Actually that doesn't work either, for me anyway. What you have to do, thanks
to "Mark D. Doyle" <doyle@zeke.Rockefeller.edu>, is to <Alt><click> on the NeXT
icon at the top of the dock for it to work. Unfortunately, this makes the dock
"non-floating" so that if you have VirtSpace
and move your screen to another part of the desktop your dock doesn't go with
you.
One problem at a time...
--
__ _ _ Colin Wu
/ ) // ' ) / Network Analyst
/ __|/ o ____ / / / . . Computing & Information Services
(__/ (_) \_<_/ / <_ (_(_/ (_/_ McMaster University
(905)525-9140 ext 24050
"If you want to truly understand something, try to change it." - Kurt Lewin
From: mvjones@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compiling FSP on NeXT
Date: 13 May 1994 21:25:34 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Message-ID: <2r0r8e$me1@bantu.provo.novell.com>
I am haveing a terrible time compiling fsp 2.7.1 on the black next
machine.
Anyone have any pointers?
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Programming in Edit ? : Page up/down on a CommandKey
Date: 13 May 1994 20:40:00 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May13214000@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2r0hpu$h7h@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
To: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter)
In-reply-to: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de's message of 13 May 1994 18:44:14 GMT
<erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de> writes:
>Hello
>Unfortunately I miss one ability in Edit. On PC's we have extra
>page up / page down keys which make it pretty fast if you prefer to
>work only with your keyboard. I really miss this ability. But maybe
>there is a way to implement this also in the current version
>of Edit. Is there any expert out there, who has already find out
>how to do this.
>I have seen, that there is an option: "emacs key binding". Is there a
>a way to program keys similar to Emacs (I mean in a much simpler
>way !).
Here's a thought. perhaps you could submit a request to Brian at NeXT
and perhaps if you're really lucky you'll see it in NS3.3...
Meanwhile I continue to use Emacs for NS
Oh assuming of course that you aren't more comfortable using the mouse
:-)
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bug in Emacs for NS 4.0?
Date: 13 May 1994 20:47:31 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May13214731@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <TMS.94May13093054@litespeed.cfc.com>
To: tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan)
In-reply-to: tms@cfc.com's message of 13 May 1994 13:30:54 GMT
I'm using Barry Warsaw's cc-mode (if that's relevant which I don't
think it is) and that works fine for me. Have you tried this on a
non-NeXT emacs 19.22? Then you'd be sure that it's an NS thing and not a GNU
core thing.
When you say "nothing happend" did you get a message saying "this make
take a while?"
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compiling FSP on NeXT
Date: 13 May 1994 22:19:54 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2r0uea$o00@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2r0r8e$me1@bantu.provo.novell.com>
I e-mailed a copy of the oft-posted instructions.
-=EPS=-
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 13 May 1994 22:29:01 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2r0uvd$iif@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <ROBERT.94May13173741@steffi.demon.co.uk>
someone wrote:
> >>Please do not call Mosaic OmniWeb..
> >>
> >>OmniWeb is a WWW browser _in development_ it is _NOT_ Mosaic.
other person replied:
> > I don't believe I called Mosaic OmniWeb; if anything, I called
> > OmniWeb Mosaic. At any rate, it's a matter of semantics because
> > I understood the guy to be asking for the name of whatever NeXTSTEP
> > app exists that's similar to Mosaic. And that's what I gave him.
robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) then said:
> The original poster asked for Mosaic. You said...
>
> "Sure it does.." Not... "Yes but there's also this great NeXTSTEP
> native application called OmniWeb"
WWW browsers are generating a lot of interest among the users at RPI.
Many don't know the term "WWW" from "Mosaic", even though everyone is
excited about it. If someone asks for Mosaic around here, we assume
they mean "WWW browser", instead of getting all snotty about the
specific brand-name of "Mosaic". This may not be fair to the
developers of Mosaic itself, but the fact is that most people
who say "I want Mosaic"
really mean
"I want any program that understands what to do
with http://www.somewhere.com/".
> I interpreted him to mean that he wanted Mosaic for Co-Xist or
> Cub/X...
Yes, that's what *you* interpreted his question to mean.
My experience is that the other interpretation has been
correct, every single time I've used it with any user who
asks about Mosaic. Chances are good that any person that
really understands the difference between "Mosaic" and
"WWW browser" isn't going to need to ask the question in
the first place.
> If he wanted the former he should have said..
>
> Is there a WWW browser for NeXTSTEP... Then OmniWeb is the
> obvious answer.
Some of our users get annoyed when we keep "correcting" their
questions, telling them "No, that's not what you wanted to ask,
so I'm not going to give you the answer you really want unless
you ask the question I want you to ask".
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Bug? (was Re: PNI just expired on me.)
Message-ID: <1994May12.112601.4504@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <2qmbin$e56@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 11:26:01 GMT
In article <2qmbin$e56@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> swekla@ee.ualberta.ca
(Brent Swekla) writes:
> Sorry about the triple post but NewsGrazer told me the post had
> failed because "the included text exceeded the added text" or
> something. After that it gave me successively shorter
> messages, still claiming the post had failed.
>
> Is this a known bug? Is there anything I can do about it?
>
This by no means a "bug" nor anything about your NewsGrazer!
Some implementations of inews, the genuine news insertion program of your
news server (which is also used by NG), is actively trying to enforce
netiquette. It is commonly considered bad practice to post followups with
substanially less added than quoted text. Your news server is just one of
these rigid types. There are other versions who leave this netiquette
stuff to the users (unfortunately, IMHO, since I hate threads conveying
80% quotes and the rest "me too" comments). If you "need" to "fix" this:
most setups allow (albeit unknowingly) to have an own inews (by means of a
little hacking). You just need to determine whether you need a NNTP or a
plain file variant. Then get the right source code...
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de (Ralf Neumann)
Subject: Re: DAYDREAM
Message-ID: <1994May13.224438.839@rafa.in-berlin.de>
Sender: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de (Ralf Neumann)
Organization: DRN
References: <2qqp34$cvq@elna.ethz.ch>
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 22:44:38 GMT
The color performance is still very very bad but the rest (exept Sound works
perfect) !!!!
Take this:
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Run Apple* Macintosh* Software on your NeXT* Computer
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The printer driver works with all NeXT* computers, and is the key to turn all
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******** FULL ADB Support ***
Turbo Computers using the new ADB keyboards are now fully supported. Also,
it's
now possible to run dongle-protected Mac software, and to take advantage of
ADB-devices found in the Macintosh world.
******** Full 68040 Floating Point Support ***
Calculation-intensive applications are now supported with the Floating-Point
capabilities of the 68040 CPU. This results in much better performance with
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68030 cubes, the built-in FPU is still supported.
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--> from QUIX:
QUIX sells Daydream directly to you. We also offer direct support by phone,
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Sending a fax is better as it can be processed during our day, e.g. your
night.
QUIX response has been sluggish in the past months. We have now hired
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--> From Dealers
Dealers are an additional source where you can get Daydream from. There are
several dealers spread across the country who sell Daydreams, and provide
local
support. QUIX will not have distributors in the U.S.
--> Thru a User-Group
User Groups often provide Mac- <and> NeXT expertise. (Mac expertise is
important as Daydream turns your NeXT into a virtual Macintosh workstation)
QUIX supports User-Groups, as well as their members, directly.
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DAYDREAM is an innovative software product that brings the functionality
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Daydream customers work with the Macintosh graphical user interface
through
the Macintosh Desktop and Finder, and the features of Apples System 7. This
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QuickDraw, 32-bit addressing, File Sharing and MS-DOS support.
QUIX's approach with Daydream leverages both the underlying NeXT
workstation performance capabilities and superior application compatibility.
This is accomplished through the adaption of hardware-dependent parts of the
Apple System Software.
By using existing device drivers, the Daydream architecture also supports
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removables, optical disk drives, modems and the NeXT LASER PRINTER. Full
Ethernet networking capability is provided. Daydream is available now.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Provides networking connectivity
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- Runs System 7.1 out-of-the box
- Works with multiple Applications, System Extensions
and Control Panels at the same time
- Uses existing Macintosh* device drivers
- Supports CD-ROM's, Removables, Opticals and Scanners
- Supports Ethernet and the Serial Ports (Modems, Printers)
- Supports 1.4 MB Floppys, and the NeXT* Laser Printer
Daydream lets you run the Apple Macintosh* System 7* on your black NeXT*
computer. It opens a new world of applications, utilities and solutions - the
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disk drives, removables, opticals, CD ROM's or scanners to your NeXT* running
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device
driver software to make existing pheriperals work. There is no need of re-
writing software: The world of the Macintosh offers enough.
Daydream is the definitive way to take the best of two worlds. Double
the potential of your existing hardware!
REQUIREMENTS
- black NeXT Computer (030/040 based), 8 MB RAM, 20 MB Hard Disk recommended
- Apple Macintosh System 7.1 (to be purchased separately)
- NEXTSTEP* 3.x is highly recommended
INCLUDES
- Daydream Software, ROM Box with Apple ROM's installed
- Minimal System 7.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
MONEY BACK GUARANTEE
--------------------
QUIX offers a money back guarantee for Daydream. If you're not satisfied, you
can send the Daydream package back, and your money will be refunded.
In case you want to send it back, please note that: The package must be sent
by
FexEx, in a FedEx Pack, to QUIX within 30 days from arrival. <QUIX pays the
shipment.> The Daydream product must come complete, with a copy of our
invoice.
QUIX then refunds your money and charges a restocking & shipping fee of 7%.
PRICING & ORDERING INFORMATION
------------------------------
Special conditions apply for User Groups and Dealers. Please send a fax or e-
mail. Below is the pricing valid after March 1, 1994.
Credit Card Orders:
-------------------
American Express & VISA: US$655.-- MasterCard sFr952.--
for Quantities from 5 to 10: US$579.-- ; (Prepaid)
10 and more: call
Educational Pricing: US$579.-- ; (Prepaid)
MasterCard can't process US$, only Swiss Francs. The price in sFr is chosen to
match the US$ tag as close as possible. Credit cards are charged the same day
the product ships.
How to order: Please send us a FAX with your order. NEVER SEND E-MAIL with
Credit Card numbers. Our Fax number is 011 41 41 348680
On the FAX with your order, we need:
- The quantity of daydream packages
- The shipping address (no P.O. Boxes accepted)
- Your Fax & Phone Numbers
- Your Credit Card Type, Number and EXPIRATION DATE.
- The name of the credit card holder.
- Your Signature.
DEALER & USER GROUP PRICING
---------------------------
Will be sent upon request. Please send an e-mail with the title 'Dealer' or
'User Group'. There's an additional offer for dealers and user groups: We can
send you an evaluation unit for two weeks at no charge.
SHIPPING
--------
Federal Express costs US$19.-- for the U.S., Japan, Taiwan and Australia.
Additional charges may apply for other countries.
In Europe, standard shipping is included.
_____________________________________________________________________
* corresponds to (R) or (TM)
NeXT and NEXTSTEP are trademarks of NeXT, Inc. Apple, the Apple Logo,
Macintosh, Mac, System 7 and Finder are trademarks of Apple Computer,
Inc. All other trademarks mentioned belong to their respective
holders. Mention of non-QUIX products is for informational purposes
and constitutes neither an endorsement nor a recommendation.
Specifications subject to change without notice.
_____________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________
daydream Q&A V1.5 (more compatibility information, see T20 below )
_____________________________________________________________________
T0
Q:Can you shortly describe what comes with daydream, and how it is installed?
A:
Daydream consists of an external ROM-Box and a set of disks. You install
Daydream by dragging three files from floppy disks to your hard disk.
Then, you start daydream with the NEXTSTEP*-based Starter Application. Your
hardware will reboot with daydream and System 7* as operating system. The
'Happy Mac' appears and soon you'll find yourself in the Finder*. Now it looks
like a Mac*. The easiest way to test some applications is to attach a Mac*-
formatted hard disk to your computer - no re-configuration or installation
needed. Also, run the software directly from another Mac* using the network.
Of course, you can still install your software from floppy disks.
Not only INIT's and other drivers work in general, even foreign System
Software, like Korean or Arabic versions, work with daydream.
T20
Q: How compatible is daydream compared with a Macintosh*?
A: It's about as compatible as a Quadra 900* or 950*, what means
that daydream is very, very compatible. It's even compatible with a
lot of software that does not adhere to Apple's programming
specifications.
Many specialists doubt that Daydream really archieves this level of
compatibility, but: QUIX has been working on the Daydream technology for
several years now. Unlike some Macintosh <emulators>, Daydream has an entirely
different approach, thereby reaching a previously unknown level of
compatibility for non-Apple computers.
To give you an idea about compatibility, here are
SOME of the applications we tested: (This is NOT A COMPLETE LIST)
Microsoft Word, Excel, Project, FoxBase+, Flight Simulator; Adobe Illustrator,
Photoshop, Dimensions, Streamline; Wolfram Mathematica; Claris Resolve,
MacWrite, FileMaker, Mac Draw, MacProject, Claris CAD, ClarisWorks, Aldus
Pagemaker, Freehand, PersonalPress, Persuasion, SuperCard, Gallery Effects,
IntelliDraw, Superpaint; Quark Xpress; WordPerfect, LetterPerfect; Apple
Finder, TeachText, HyperCard, AppleLink, ResEdit, InterPoll, AppleShare File
Server 3.1, MPW; Symantec Think Pascal, Think C; Kaetron OrgChart; Now! Up-To-
Date; Deneba Canvas; Cricket Paint, Fontographer, LaserTalk, MicroPhone II,
MacTerminal, OmniPage Pro, SoftPC and SoftAT, Lotus 1-2-3, Now Utilities, CP
Utilities, CP Antivirus.
SOME OF THE SYSTEM EXTENSIONS & DRIVERS WE TESTED:
Adobe Type Manager, Type Reunion; Suitcase; Dayna AccessPC, Apple PCexchange,
LaserWriter, Laserwriter SC, Stylewriter II, MacX25, PortShare PRO, Timbuktu,
DiskDoubler, Apple CD-ROM, Drivers for SyQuest drives, optical drives. Drivers
for scanners. AppleShare networking on Ethernet with other Mac's and NeXT's.
T22
Q: What technology is behind daydream?
A: QUIX has the technology to port the Apple System 7 to arbitrary platforms.
QUIX engineers rewrote parts of the Apple Macintosh* Operating System in order
to get it work on the NeXT* Hardware. The nature of the black hardware is 'of
a
different color' compared with Apple* Hardware, what means that nothing fits
first. Almost all hardware-dependent parts of the Mac* Operating System have
been rewritten for the NeXT* hardware.
T37
Q: Your Ad says daydream runs (almost) all Macintosh* Applications.
Is this merely a disclaimer or do you have a list of working programs?
A: It's a disclaimer. We don't have a list of working programs (would be too
long, but see T20), and there are very few incompatibilities with this version
of daydream. Here are the known problems after testing more than 3 GB of
software:
->> Apple's DiskCopy* does not work, because it goes directly to the
Apple* Disk Controller Chip. It recognizes that there's no such chip,
and puts up a dialog 'DiskCopy does not work on this type of Macintosh'.
->> Retrospect and DAT or Tape software in general. This is due to a
difference in the SCSI hardware of the NeXT* Computer.
The current Version still has a bug which displays false colors in Adobe
Photoshop* and Illustrator* on Computers with Color Monitors.
The bug which prevented NowMenus to display a menu is fixed. NowMenus is
searching for the Apple logo in the menu bar; now that the release version of
Daydream displays the Apple Logo, NowMenu works.
T36
Q: When Mac System 7.2 comes out (or 8.0) can I upgrade the OS so I can use
the
system to its full capacity? What about System 7 PRO?
A: We don't know what Apple* is going to do in future System releases, so
there
is no guarantee that it will work with the current version of daydream. On the
other hand, daydream was developed with System 7.01*, and worked with only one
bug with System 7.1*. (The bug disabled Ethernet access. It's fixed now.)
Concluding, daydream does not depend on ONE particular version of the System
File, but we don't know what the future will bring. With System 7 PRO, for
example, we'll need to modify the Ethernet driver again. The rest works.
T1
Q: What Version of Macintosh* System Software can I use?
A: System 7.1 is needed for Daydream.
T3
Q: Can I use my existing hard disk drive?
A: Yes. No additional hardware is needed.
T4
Q: Do I need to re-partition my hard disk?
A: No. Daydream does not require re-partitioning or even formatting
your hard disk. The Macintosh hard disk is stored in a file on your
NeXT* disk.
T6
Q: Can I run NEXTSTEP* and Daydream concurrently?
A: You need to reboot your computer to change between Daydream and NEXTSTEP.
T7
Q: Do I need to start NEXTSTEP* in order to start daydream?
A: You usually will, but you can take a shortcut and enter Daydream
directly, if you want.
T8
Q: How fast is Daydream?
A: Daydream offers the unrestriced potential of your hardware to your
software.
It runs as fast as a high-end Macintosh*, like a Quadra 900 or 950. The older
030 cubes are a bit slower, but can still be used for DTP.
T10
Q: How long does it take to install daydream and getting started?
A: The installation process is simple, it takes about ten minutes.
You'll then be ready to go and run your Mac applicaions.
T11
Q: Can I read Apple* Macintosh* formatted Floppy Disks?
A: You can read, write and format Macintosh* 1.44 MB Diskettes, like
every Macintosh*. The older 800k format is unfortunately not supported by the
NeXT* hardware.
T13
Q: Can I read PC-formatted Floppy Disks?
A: With third-party software, you can. PC Exchange* from Apple*, for
example, allows to exchange files with PC-compatibles.
T15
Q: Can I attach a Macintosh*-formatted Hard disk to my NeXT*?
A: Yes. This works fine.
T16
Q: Can I use my NeXT Laser Printer?
A: YES! Daydream comes with a printer driver for the NeXT Laser Printer. You
can print from Macintosh Applications to your NeXT Laser, so you don't need to
get an additional Mac-compatible printer.
T17
Q: Can I add INITs (System Extensions) and CDEVs (Control Panels) to
my System Folder?
A: Yes. We've seen daydream running more than 30 INIT's at the same
time - the same collection did not work on a Quadra 950*.
T18
Q: Can I connect a modem to my NeXT* running daydream?
A: Yes! You can attach serial printers, too! ( e.g. a Stylewriter II)
T25
Q: Can I attach a SyQuest removable or an optical drive?
A: Yes. You can attach Removables, Optials, Harddisks, CD-ROM's,
Scanners, SCSI-Printers and a lot of other SCSI-devices. It's almost
a standard Macintosh* SCSI Port, and due to the excellent NeXT*-
hardware, it's fast. One problem could show up with DAT Tape Backup devices.
T26
Q: Do I need special drivers for such SCSI devices?
No. Daydream is like a Mac*. It uses existing Mac-device drivers.
T27
Q: I have a 2.88 MB SCSI Floppy drive attached. Can I use it?
A: Not at this time. QUIX will build a driver into daydream
which talks to this device, but we would also like to make sure that the
format
we create will be compatible with future Apple* 2.88 MB disks.
T28
Q: There is a file server built into Apple's System 7*. Does it work?
A: Yes, you can publish you disk drives with this built-in System 7*
Fileserver, and other users will be able to access your files after entering a
password. NEXTSTEP* 3.0 useres with Appletalk* can access it, too.
T29
Q: Can I use existing network resources with daydream?
A: Yes, you have full access to your Network, with all the capabilities of a
Macintosh*: For example, you have a built-in fileserver which lets other NeXT*
computers and Macintosh* computers use your files. Or you can access other
file
servers. You can also access Postscript* Printers in the network, run
networking applications like databases, and much more. The Macintosh* is well
known for its connectivity.
T31
Q: Can I run networked applications on daydream?
A: Yes, they think they're on a Macintosh* and you won't see any difference.
Examples of networked Applications are databases, like Filemaker* from Claris.
T34
Q: On what hardware and with what software did you write this Q&A?
A: On a 030 Cube, with Word. I'll later copy it into an AppleLink document to
send it as an E-mail. We have installed AppleLink on a Turbo Station.
T44
Q: Is the NeXTDimension supported?
A: Not in this release. We're working on it; it's the next project, now that
the Printer Driver and ADB are done. We expect to have it by the end of April.
T45
Q: What are your development priorities?
A: 1) NeXTdimension support
2) Color Fix for Photoshop & Illustrator
3) LocalTalk network support (Ethernet is already supported)
Non-priorities: Sound input/output, MIDI
_____________________________________________________________________
* corresponds to (R) or (TM)
NeXT and NEXTSTEP are trademarks of NeXT, Inc. Apple, the Apple Logo,
Macintosh, Mac, Macintosh Quadra 900, Macintosh Quadra 950, Macintosh
LC, System 7, Personal Filesharing, AppleShare, Appletalk, EtherTalk,
AppleLink, PC Exchange and Apple Disk Copy are trademarks of Apple
Computer, Inc. Postscript, Illustrator and Photoshop are trademarks
of Adobe Systems, Inc. SoftPC is a trademark of Insignia Solutions,
Inc. Filemaker is a trademark of Claris Corporation. Microsoft Word
is a trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Executor is a trademark of
Abacus Research and Development. Xpress is a trademark of Quark, Inc.
4th Dimension is a trademark of Acius, Inc. Now Menus and Now
Utilities are trademarks of Now Software, Inc. Timbuktu is a
trademark of Farallon Computing, Inc. HP, LaserJet and DeskWriter are
trademarks of Hewlett-Packard Co.
All other trademarks mentioned belong to their respective holders.
Mention of non-QUIX products is for informational purposes and
constitutes neither an endorsement nor a recommendation.
Specifications subject to change without notice.
_____________________________________________________________________
and flames on for the big info posting!
This is not a commercial posting and daydream looks realy interesting for the
community (if there is still a black one). Thats why I made it up.
Ralf
In article <2qqp34$cvq@elna.ethz.ch> REINI@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH
(REINBERG,MARTIN STEFAN) writes:
> Hi
> I am interested in DAYDREAM the Mac-Emulator. Where can I get
> some information about it? Is is easy to switch between Mac
> and NeXT.
> Thanks in advance
>
> Martin Reinberg
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*| Ralf Neumann | ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de | Voice+49 30 / 321 78 84 |*
*| crypt: pgp2 puplic key available | Fax +49 30 / 321 28 68 |*
*| Try NeXTmail please! |*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mpman@shamu.micro.umn.edu (milam paraschou)
Subject: Dos or mac emulation
Message-ID: <Cprxon.BHx@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 03:56:17 GMT
Does anyone know where I can get a dos or mac emulation
program for my next workstation for free?
milam
mpman@mermaid.micro.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: open - a replacement for /usr/bin/open
In-Reply-To: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch's message of 13 May 1994 00:16:46 GMT
To: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May12221920@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
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Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 02:19:17 GMT
In article <2qugte$fug@elna.ethz.ch> chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach) writes:
some people have been asking me, what exactly was broken in NeXT's
open. Since 3.1 it's no longer possbible to do things like 'open -a
Edit somefile' if the Public Window Server is turned off.
Furthermore, there have been problems with the tcsh completition
stuff. Thanks to Scott Anguish for telling me about this, here is an
updated version of what you should add to your .tcshrc to change the
behavior of the listing and file-completion in tcsh.
Of course, if you were using a _REAL_MAN_s shells like zsh and not some
sissy tcsh, you'd use the following:
allapps ()
{ if ( [[$apps = ""]] ) apps=(/NextApps/*(x:t:r) /LocalApps/*(x:t:r) ~/Apps/*
(x:t:r) /LocalDeveloper/Apps/*(x:t:r) /LocalDeveloper/Demos/*(x:t:r) /NextAdmin/
*(x:t:r) /NextDeveloper/Apps/*(x:t:r) /NextDeveloper/Demos/*(x:t:r));
reply=$apps; }
compctl -f -x 'c[-1,-a]' -K allapps - 'S[-]' -k (-a -o -p -NXHost -unhide -nostat -wait -temp) -- open appopen unhide run
This is faster, shorter and will generate the names of the apps only
on demand (so that shell startup won't be slowed down).
Carl Edman
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu (Tim Scanlon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: internet access from home - how?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 14 May 1994 05:41:00 GMT
Organization: George mason University, fairfax va.
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Summary: well there is some free stuff.
Slight correction, PNI (TransSys) SLIP is free. The CSLIP impliementation
costs money. I've used the Beta version (1.7) and found it to be a great product.
It's also worth the money to buy the CSLIP implementation, and the other
extensions on/in it are VERY nice too. It has the ability to run as a server &
a client too. (If you pay for it, that's like $300? Not too bad for both ends).
If you're unable (like me) to buy MorningStar (2 X $795? In my dreams...)
and need to run PPP (I need the async mapping) You CAN run the PPP that Miron
Cuperman built, It's avalible only on the German NeXT archive. I do not have
ANY clue wetehr it will work at all under Intel, and it is buggy (old version)
under 3.2, (You have to recompile it on black, but it builds & runs) & that one's
free. It does have problems. A port of the newer PPP code seems to be happening
between myself & a few other good folks, but it's only begun & is going to be
a bit before it's even alpha. In the meantime, the older stuff is at least more
cost effective if nothing else.
However, if you are operating or need to operate PPP in a corporate
enviornment, The MorningStar product is great from the liturature I've seen,
I'd HIGHLY reccomend it for an enviornment that needs fantastic support &
a very robust & fault tolerant PPP setup. Morningstar also has a wonderful
archive of PPP/SLIP related documentation avalible for FTP, for free. The
product also supports leased line type connections & up, so if you need to
run over a fractional T1 or soemthing similar & need PPP as a link layer
protocol, it's the product for you.
There is also "term" avalible on sunsite.unc.edu in
/pub/Linux/apps/comm/term The latest version is 115, & I do not know wether it
will work under NS, but 114 works great. (115 is beta, it'll probably build
w/o much trouble). Term allows you to set up a conenction between 2 Unix boxes
using "normal" (i.e non-root) permissions and use multiple rlogin sessions,
telnet (I have built a term-telnet for the next, if you want it let me know.)
ftp, mail, whois, finger, & some other extremly useful services. You can also
run UUCP, & other sendmail type services over it. If you can't do SLIP,
want more ineractivity than UUCP, then term is the thing to run if your admin's
will not freak. (soem places like digex, and netcom seem to be idiots about it,
blind leading the witless IMHO.)
Tim Scanlon
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SlipCommander and PNI-1.7/1.8?
Message-ID: <May.14.02.06.34.1994.25000@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 14 May 94 06:06:35 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi all,
Im in the process of trying to set up PNI1.7 and also have
SlipCommander 3.21. By the looks of things, SC3.21 wont work with PNI-1.7.
Is this right? Or is there a way to make them work together?
Oh, Also, at home I have a micro network - two machines. Has anyone gotton
this to work with PNI-1.7. I guess in short you are making a gateway and this
sounds like it might be tough to configure.
Later, John
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 14 May 1994 02:57:06 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
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References: <2qvsof$t3m@news.duke.edu>
Denise Blakeley writes
> richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu writes
> > Does Mosaic exist on the NeXT (68k) ??? Where is it?
>
> Sure does--it's called OmniWeb.app. You can get it via anonymous ftp at
> alice.fmi.uni-passau.de:/pub/NeXT/Apps/OmniWeb.0.6.2.NI.b.app.tar.gz.
>
> I compared it side-by-side with Mosaic (running under co-Xist) and it's very
> similar. One feature I like better about OmniWeb is that you can always tell
> where you're at in the hierarchy by looking at the browser.
>
Well, to be fair, (and head off all possible flames)
there are some features that Mosaic has that OmniWeb doesn't (yet).
Mind you, OmniWeb is an alpha that is being widely used, where as Mosaic is in
Version 2.
And OmniWeb supports the mailto: URL now.... I don't think Mosaic does.
:-)
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Bug in Emacs for NS 4.0?
In-Reply-To: tms@cfc.com's message of 13 May 1994 13:30:54 GMT
To: tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan)
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Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 23:11:19 GMT
In article <TMS.94May13093054@litespeed.cfc.com> tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan) writes:
'indent-region' seems to be broken in either Emacs for NS 4.0. I took
a completely unindented C program, set a mark at the beginning, moved
the cursor to the end, then hit M-C-\, and nothing happened. This
should have indented the whole thing nicely. (At least it did in
emacs 18... :-) If I mark a section of about 10 lines and hit M-C-\
it works. What's the deal?
That seems to be a general GNU Emacs 19 c-mode bug. I just tested it
under both the Emacs for NS 4.0 (i.e. GNU Emacs 19.22) and an
unmodified GNU Emacs 19.19 on a Sun with a variety of indentation
styles. The result always is that the first function (or other
object) gets indented properly, but the the rest of the file isn't.
You should report this to gnu.emacs.bugs.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jafri!ajafri (Amir Jafri)
Subject: Problems using am1.1.4 with ZyXEL - help
Message-ID: <CpsA7I.5v@jafri.uucp>
Sender: ajafri@jafri.uucp (Amir Jafri)
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 08:28:28 GMT
Hi!
Actually, this is probably just basic stupidity on my part. I'm trying to get am1.1.4
to work with my ZyXEL 1496E. Has anyone done this successfully? What I'd like to know
is if I have to modify any modem registers or other stuff for this to work.
I had NXFax running on my machine, so I killed it to see if that was the problem.
That didn't help. Here's a summary of my experience:
I modified the config.h file as instructed. Changed the /etc/ttys file, compiled and invoked am.
No problem so far. However, when I tried to follow the instructions to record a welcome message,
things didn't work so well. I pressed a dummy number on the phone to get rid of the dial tone,
and then pressed the DATA/VOICE button twice. Here's the output from the console
am (1.14): Playing Message :Welcome/Bin_nicht_da.zyxel
am (1.14): Waited for (OK) got (KO) == YES time=584379
am (1.14): Waited for (CONNECT
) got (CT
CONNE) == YES time=53138
am (1.14): PLY time=6 d=64
am (1.14): Waited for (VCON) got (CONV) == YES time=396857
am (1.14): Waited for (OK) got (KO) == YES time=334419
am (1.14): Waited for (OK) got (KO) == YES time=584374
am (1.14): Waited for (OK) got (KO) == YES time=584403
am (1.14): Waited for (CONNECT
) got (CT
CONNE) == YES time=537535
am (1.14): recording message : New_Ones/Sat_02:55:03.zyxel
The problem is that the phone went dead, so I didn't hear anything. am proceeded to record the operators recorded voice telling me to hangup and try my call again. After several tries, I gave up.
Can someone shed some light on this?
Thanks.
Regards,
Amir
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From: cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles Winthrop Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 14 May 1994 10:02:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Distribution: world
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Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote:
: Denise Blakeley writes
: > richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu writes
: > > Does Mosaic exist on the NeXT (68k) ??? Where is it?
I hate to go off on a tangent from this brand-name debate, interesting
as it is, but I would like to note that his subject line pops up from
independent sources several times per week. I would like to see a native
Next Step "Mosaic" (TM) app, and would be willing to pay for it (well, not
the entire development cost ! - but some usual shrink-wrap price).
Here's why. I run a small NeXT cluster which is the only one in a much
larger heterogeneous environment (sound familiar?) in which Mosaic is the
coming thing. I do run the Mosaic-for-X-under-Next that I got off cs.orst.edu,
under Xfe which I got in the same place, and by the way let me thank the
developers of both programs for the service they have rendered our community,
but at least on my color NextStation the performance of Mosaic isn't
** quite ** as good as it is on other platforms. Some of this has to do
with n-bit color on the NextStation, where n is an integer somewhere
between 8 and 24 that I can't remember, even if I do pass myself off as
the system administrator. Also it is a bit of a pain to launch X and do
all the stuff attendant thereunto JUST to use Mosaic. As an end user it
is not just my right but my duty to whine about these sorts of inconveniences.
I have not yet tried OmniWeb - I appreciate having learned of it from this
correspondence - but irrespective of its merits, I think most people in my
circumstances would still dearly like to have a native NextStep Mosaic app.
Charles Clark
From: dsdecasp@iiic.ethz.ch (Daniel Stefan Decasper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SlipCommander and PNI-1.7/1.8?
Date: 14 May 1994 11:38:45 GMT
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Message-ID: <2r2d85$6ng@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>
References: <May.14.02.06.34.1994.25000@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <May.14.02.06.34.1994.25000@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>Hi all,
> Im in the process of trying to set up PNI1.7 and also have
>SlipCommander 3.21. By the looks of things, SC3.21 wont work with PNI-1.7.
>
>Is this right? Or is there a way to make them work together?
Yes. No, I don't think so.
The author told me that he will support PNIX.X in the near feature.
Dan
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Bug? (was Re: PNI just expired on me.)
Date: 14 May 1994 17:14:27 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2r30tj$mnf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <1994May12.112601.4504@nidat.sub.org>
In article <1994May12.112601.4504@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org
(Peter Nitezki) writes:
> In article <2qmbin$e56@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> swekla@ee.ualberta.ca
> (Brent Swekla) writes:
> > Sorry about the triple post but NewsGrazer told me the post had
> > failed because "the included text exceeded the added text" or
> > something. After that it gave me successively shorter
> > messages, still claiming the post had failed.
> >
> > Is this a known bug? Is there anything I can do about it?
> >
> This by no means a "bug" nor anything about your NewsGrazer!
>
> [stuff about inews and netiquette deleted]
Sorry, I should have been more clear the first time around.
The first time I posted, I got the message about too much included text,
and the post did indeed fail. I agree that this is not evidence of a bug.
Newsgrazer then returned me to the post window, presumably so I could fix
my post.
The second time I tried to post (after editing the file), NewsGrazer
popped up a window saying "Post failed:" and again dropped me back to the
post window. This time the post actually got through. I think *this* might
be a bug (although it could due to inews?).
The third time I tried to post (after editing one line), NewsGrazer popped
up a window saying "Post" and again dropped me into the post window. Again
the post actually got through.
At this point things were obviously getting weird, so I copied the
contents of the post window, cancelled it, followed up the original
article again, and replaced the contents of the post window with a paste.
This time it got through, and NewsGrazer didn't complain.
End result: 4 attempts at posting, 3 NewsGrazer complaints, 1 failed post.
I am running Version 75, on NS3.2.
--
Brent Swekla "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca the day after tomorrow" - Mark Twain
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: snl@damrak.slip.cs.cmu.edu (Sean Levy)
Subject: can't redefine malloc
Message-ID: <CpszLL.EG8.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Keywords: malloc
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 17:36:56 GMT
Is it impossible to use a different version of malloc than that defined in
/lib/libsys_s.a? (NS 3.1, black hardware). From poking around a bit,
it appears as though things are grouped into files in the system
RTL in such a way as to make that impossible. I get multiply defined
symbol errors whatever I do (-nostdlib, etc etc). Is this something
you just would not want to do under NS for some NSish reason? I hope
not, as I have very good non-NSish reasons for wanting to do so... :-(
Cheers,
-- Sean
--
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snl+@CMU.EDU (MIME,ATK) | 5222(vox) | throw away, but somehow
snl@DAMRAK.SLIP.CS.CMU.EDU (NeXT) | 5229(fax) | never do.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: can't redefine malloc
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 15:43:15 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <EhpGbHe00iV241h5pa@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CpszLL.EG8.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 14-May-94 can't redefine
malloc by Sean Levy@damrak.slip.cs
> Is it impossible to use a different version of malloc than that defined in
> /lib/libsys_s.a? (NS 3.1, black hardware). From poking around a bit,
> it appears as though things are grouped into files in the system
> RTL in such a way as to make that impossible. I get multiply defined
> symbol errors whatever I do (-nostdlib, etc etc). Is this something
> you just would not want to do under NS for some NSish reason? I hope
> not, as I have very good non-NSish reasons for wanting to do so... :-(
Try:
#define malloc my_malloc
#define free my_free
....etc...
Then provide your own malloc routines named my_malloc(), my_free(), etc.
For example, this is one way how the FSF's gmalloc package can be used
without running into namespace collisions (ie, the "multiply defined
symbol errors").
What are you trying to do, if I may ask?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: pcu@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS/ppc
Date: 14 May 1994 21:06:57 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2r3ehh$3fu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2r0b8d$o66@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <2r0b8d$o66@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Mark Anenberg (marka@Eng.Sun.COM) wrote:
> Could this be a hint for NEXTSTEP/PPC ? Probably a brain-dead thought,
> but: IBMs Workplace/OS runs on top of Mach 3.0 (?), so perhaps NeXT
> could just sit down and wait until the Mach kernel runs fine on PPC and
> then do the necessary hardware-dependent works.
I've given a lot of thought to the coming ppc onslaught and future intel-like
domination lately, and believe I have the answer on ns/ppc. The ppc clone will
be built on PReP specs, and since they are still beta, as of yet, we won't see
ns/ppc until the full PReP specs are published.
How's that for incredible insight? :)
--
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
Anything to me is sweeter,
Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: zac@dolphin.com (Zacharias J. Beckman)
Subject: NNTP for NeXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <1994May14.192547.1906@dolphin.com>
Sender: zac@dolphin.com
Organization: Dolphin Technologies Inc.
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 19:25:47 GMT
I recently grabbed the NNTP source off the net... attempting to
compile it revealed that getting it to work under NS wasn't going to
be easy. Has anyone made it work on NS? If so, please point me in
the right direction (or even send a copy via NEXTMAIL is you have it
handy). Your help is greatly appreciated! Thanks.
--
Zacharias J. Beckman - NEXTMAIL welcome at <zac@dolphin.com>! - CIS 73207,3402
Dolphin Technologies Inc. - NEXTSTEP information management <info@dolphin.com>
To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy.... and dull
fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. --- R. A. Heinlen
From: (Horace Lim) hal@xedoc.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone using AccessKit from VNP?
Date: 15 May 1994 08:13:05 GMT
Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2r4lih$q8r@yarrina.connect.com.au>
Keywords: AccessKit, persistence, OODB
Hi all,
I'm just reading the concepts manual for VNP's AccessKit.
Conceptually sounds fantastic (why hasn't anyone done this
before?)... allows RDBMS like Oracle and Sybase to have persistent
object behaviour! This might even accelerate the move towards
OODBMS, or it will allow RDBMSes to hang around a little longer.
Is anyone out there using AccessKit who dont' mind sharing some
experiences?
Please respond directly as well as publicly...
Thanks in advance, Horace
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they need more than shovels
Internet : hal@xedoc.com.au (NeXTMail appreciated)
Channels Manager, Xedoc Software Development Pty Ltd
222 Park St, South Melbourne, VIC 3205 AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61 3 696 2490, Facimile: +61 3 696 6757
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NNTP for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 15 May 1994 08:08:15 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May15090815@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994May14.192547.1906@dolphin.com>
To: zac@dolphin.com (Zacharias J. Beckman)
In-reply-to: zac@dolphin.com's message of Sat, 14 May 1994 19:25:47 GMT
<zac@dolphin.com> writes:
>I recently grabbed the NNTP source off the net... attempting to
>compile it revealed that getting it to work under NS wasn't going to
>be easy. Has anyone made it work on NS? If so, please point me in
>the right direction (or even send a copy via NEXTMAIL is you have it
>handy). Your help is greatly appreciated! Thanks.
I hope he doesn't get a thousand copies of NNTP sent to him :-)
Can't speak for NNTP but it will work under NS... I believe the CNEWS
package on cs.orst.edu/sonata comes with it...
I choose to run INN though and have no problems with it.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: axel@siggi.physik.tu-berlin.de (Axel Kilian)
Subject: need X11 for colorstation with NS 2.1
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <1994May15.085140.19850@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 08:51:40 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Does anybody have an X11 binary which works on a colorstation with NS
2.1 ?
(I know that this version is back-dated).
I have tried to built my own binary with the sources available from
the ftp servers, but that did not work because the sources were meant
to work with NS 3.xx.
I would very much appreciate receiving a NeXTmail with the X11
binary.
Thank you!
axel@siggi.physik.tu-berlin.de
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From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Where InstantTeX for NS/FIP?
Date: 15 May 1994 14:31:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2r5bnp$oh9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
The binaries at the archives are for black hw only.
Are there binaries anywhere for NS/Intel?
thanks
R. de Lucca
Johns Hopkins University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: 2D CAD package More interest because of Sun, HP?
Message-ID: <1994May15.164528.17504@iitmax.iit.edu>
Keywords: 2D CAD Mechanical drafting
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Sun, 15 May 94 16:45:28 GMT
Hello world,
I am an engineer and industrial designer and would like to run my start-up
business completely on NeXTSTEP. I've had a NeXT since 1990, and have a great
set of software for all needs except in CAD.
I am wondering if there is increased interest in bringing more design and
drafting tools to NeXTSTEP because of OpenSTEP and the deals with HP and
Sun.
I know of Academy and somebody has mentioned JessyCAD although I don't know
how to get a demo of JessyCAD. Does anyone know of other possibilities
or pending products? Does anyone know if Academy continues its development?
I also know of the 3D modelers and in fact, own SolidThinkingModeler which looks
like it satisfies my 3D visualization needs. But now I need to be
able to take models and make them produceable.
Any info, posted or e-mail would be appreciated.
Best regards,
Chris Conley
Institute of Design, Chicago
p.s. If anyone has a copy of Academy they would like to sell, I am interested
in purchasing that for the short term. I have emailed info@cube.de but have
not received any replies.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@oa.guild.org (Mark Onyschuk)
Subject: Re: Anyone using AccessKit from VNP?
Message-ID: <CputHt.3GM@oa.guild.org>
Keywords: AccessKit, persistence, OODB
Organization: M. Onyschuk and Associates Inc., Toronto
References: <2r4lih$q8r@yarrina.connect.com.au>
Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 17:20:17 GMT
hal@xedoc.com.au wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm just reading the concepts manual for VNP's AccessKit.
>
>Conceptually sounds fantastic (why hasn't anyone done this
>before?)... allows RDBMS like Oracle and Sybase to have persistent
>object behaviour! This might even accelerate the move towards
>OODBMS, or it will allow RDBMSes to hang around a little longer.
>
>Is anyone out there using AccessKit who dont' mind sharing some
>experiences?
I've used Access kit in projects for a local client. It's a great product
especially coupled with the VNP companion product UIBinder or a work-alike
(we rolled our own UI binder-like tool called OABinder).
Certainly for large projects, or for substantial reuse among a number of
projects, the Access Kit OO paradigm is the way to go.
Some minor shortcomings:
1. VNPConfigure application is a bit unweildy.
2. No tool is provided to generate persistent Objective C object skeletons.
(we built a short PERL script to fix the second problem)
Some important points (IMHO) to consider:
1. Look for a tool like UIBinder to use when building Access Kit applications,
otherwise you'll find yourself writing lots of extra Objective C code moving
data between UI and persistent objects. This additional code:
* creates needless dependencies between UI and program
source making rapid prototyping more difficult and UI re-arrangements more
prone to error.
* obfuscates application logic -- your program concerns itself less with
business practice and more with UI maintenance -- and so becomes more
difficult to repair and enhance at a later date.
Best Regards,
Mark
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From: bussarj@alleg.edu (Jeremy Bussard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with using 'talk'
Date: 16 May 1994 02:25:41 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <2r6lj5$bkq@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <1994May15.235143.10685@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Piotr Twarecki writes
<->Hello,
<->
<->I have attempted to use 'talk' several times, but could not succeed so
<->far. Every time I try to talk to anyone locally or over the Dialup IP
<->SLIP package, I get the following message:
<->
<->(barbakane:18)[~]> talk peter
<->talk: barbakane: Can't figure out network address.
<->
<->Being a unix novice, I can't figure out what exactly is going wrong,
<->especially since 'write' works just fine. I would appreciate any feedback
<->regarding this problem.
<->
The proper syntax is as follows:
`talk user@machine`
Add the machine where the person is at, unless you are using ytalk and
remotely logged into the person's machine. In that case "talk user" will
work.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: .lha (de)compression on the NeXT?
Message-ID: <CpvprG.DD9@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <1994May10.195840.18670@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 04:57:15 GMT
Steve Davis (sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: Greetings!
: I've obtained a file via ftp that is compressed in .lha format. Is there a
: utility to decode this format on the NeXT? I'm using a NeXTstation Turbo Color
: with NS 3.0.
Get the new version of Opener.app, just uploaded to cs.orst.edu the other
day... It has a new utility for (un)compressing .lha.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Jordan Hazen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!!
Date: 16 May 1994 06:22:10 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Computer Teaching Labs
Message-ID: <2r73ei$sal@wea.eel.ufl.edu>
I've run into a serious problem with NextStep, running on a network of
black hardware boxes. It seems that certain programs allocate
virtual-memory space and never return or re-use this space, eventually
filling up the swap device to capacity with stale pages and causing a
system crash. The only two programs that seem to do this (that we've
noticed) are the ImageViewer application (by Lennart Lovstrand) and
the Wingz spreadsheet (the last version released before Wingz was
discontinued). The trouble with Wingz is particularly troublesome,
because the entire network depends on a couple of Wingz servers
(linked to clients via the spreadshett's Hyperscript language) for
various operations. Some of these operations involve opening more
than one hundred data files, and each time a file is loaded in a
little bit more of the swap space gets allocated (and never freed!).
By the middle of the work day, the servers' swap disks have nearly
filled and performance has slowed to a crawl (it will eventually crash
outright).
Compounding tis memory-leak problem is the fact that the NeXT kernel
will never free up the old swap page, EVEN AFTER THE OFFENDING
PROGRAM HAS BEEN QUIT OR KILLED! Only a complete system reboot
(rather intrusive in this environment) will allow work to resume. We
have a kludged "solution" now whereby a cron job periodically reboots
the computer and re-starts the Wingz servers, but this is far from
optimal!
Under every other version of UNIX I've encountered, memory space gets
returned to the free pool once the program that allocated it is gone,
but this apparently doesn't happen under NeXT Mach.
All the computers involved are running NeXTStep 3.2. Is there any way
out of this conundrum? Is it possible to write a privileged program
that polices a program's VM usage, and de-allocated stale pages? If
there's no easier way I'd like to try this, but have no idea where to
begin. Your help would be very much appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
--
Jordan.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Giving focus to window on top?
Message-ID: <westesCpvw69.555@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 07:15:45 GMT
NeXTSTEP has a neat feature where the alt-<up arrow> keystroke
combination will move various application windows to the top, but
leave the keyboard focus with the original application.
My question is when I get a particular window to the top that I want
to give the focus, is there a way to do this from the keyboard?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: andyc@viking.e-eng.hull.ac.uk (Andrew Carnegie)
Subject: Re: Problems with using 'talk'
Message-ID: <Cpw001.6zG@dcs.hull.ac.uk>
Sender: news@dcs.hull.ac.uk (USENET News)
Organization: Deptartment Of Computer Science, The University of Hull, UK
References: <2r6lj5$bkq@mustang.alleg.edu>
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 08:38:24 GMT
In article <2r6lj5$bkq@mustang.alleg.edu> bussarj@alleg.edu (Jeremy Bussard)
writes:
> Piotr Twarecki writes
> <->Hello,
> <->
> <->I have attempted to use 'talk' several times, but could not succeed so
> <->far. Every time I try to talk to anyone locally or over the Dialup IP
> <->SLIP package, I get the following message:
> <->
> <->(barbakane:18)[~]> talk peter
> <->talk: barbakane: Can't figure out network address.
> <->
> <->Being a unix novice, I can't figure out what exactly is going wrong,
> <->especially since 'write' works just fine. I would appreciate any feedback
> <->regarding this problem.
> <->
>
> The proper syntax is as follows:
>
> `talk user@machine`
>
> Add the machine where the person is at, unless you are using ytalk and
> remotely logged into the person's machine. In that case "talk user" will
> work.
Aaargh. Shouldn't this be in the FAQ by now? Is it in there and I missed it?
I could be wrong but the problem is probably because Piotrs machine doesn't
know that it itself is a host. Use HostManager.app to set this up. Do
Host>New and fill in the details. Make sure you use the correct address and
with a bit of luck talk should work. I had this same problem for ages
until I figured it out. Hope it works for you too.
Andy
Hull University, UK
A.Carnegie@e-eng.hull.ac.uk No NextMail (*SOB*)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Subject: Documentation of Dimension-Board
Message-ID: <1994May16.062202.3963@balou.rhein.de>
Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de
Organization: private NeXT
Date: Mon, 16 May 94 06:22:02 GMT
Hi,
does anybody have some printed information about
the NeXTDimension-Board?
Please point me in the right direction where to find it.
Thanks, tommi
------
Thomas Pfleiderer
tommi@balou.rhein.de
voice/fax: +49 2225 701332
NeXT-Mail appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Re: DockPrint semi-fails under NS3.2
Message-ID: <Cpw0J6.18M@trapac.com>
Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation
References: <1994May13.200836.18760@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 08:49:53 GMT
In article <1994May13.200836.18760@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu) writes:
> Actually that doesn't work either, for me anyway. What
> you have to do, thanks to "Mark D. Doyle"
> <doyle@zeke.Rockefeller.edu>, is to <Alt><click> on the
> NeXT icon at the top of the dock for it to work.
> Unfortunately, this makes the dock "non-floating" so that
> if you have VirtSpace and move your screen to another
> part of the desktop your dock doesn't go with you.
I seem to recall that a program using the 2.0 API for dragging files
to it's app icon will not work if recompiled under 3.0. However, it
should work if you cmd-drag to the app icon.
--
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
[My opinions are my own]
From: hdwoernd@faui06a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Programming in Edit ? : Page up/down on a CommandKey
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 13:14:34 +0200
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <2r7kiq$1lu@faui06a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
References: <2r0hpu$h7h@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter) writes:
>Unfortunately I miss one ability in Edit. On PC's we have extra
>page up / page down keys which make it pretty fast if you prefer to
>work only with your keyboard. I really miss this ability. But maybe
>there is a way to implement this also in the current version
>of Edit. Is there any expert out there, who has already find out
>how to do this.
One hint:
hold the alternate key (Atr-Gr) and klick on the line up/down
buttons. You'll see, edit is understanding the PageUp / Down
Message. The Keyboard driver also knows about this keys. So it
should be possible to implement it into the system.
Bye, Harry
========================================================
Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler
Uni-Erlangen
hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
From: Charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Next-friendly WAIS clients & servers?
Date: Mon, 16 May 94 14:20:21 BST
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <2r7rsa$ld7@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi all-
Does anybody know of a NeXT client for WAIS? How about WAIS server software?
This is for 3.2 on white.
Thanks for any leads...
C.
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (W. Klemm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 16 May 1994 16:34:49 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <2r87b9$me8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Now I've finally managed to mount my DOS partition on my SCSI disk with
NSfIP (NEXTSTEP doesn't like replacing its boot manager with a fancier,
like OS-BS ;-). According to NeXTanswers I should avoid mounting
DOS partitions with more than 32 MB, so I've made two 32 MB partitions.
Is it true that it's impossible to mount the second DOS partition on the
same drive (it's a logical drive in an extended partition) ?
NeXT please! Correct this stupid limitation! Why should I consider
buying SoftPC when there's no practical way to share your programs/data with
DOS ? With Linux, it would be a matter of days between detection and
correction of such a bug!
--
| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT |
| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 16 May 1994 17:40:46 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2r8b6u$7p4@rosie.next.com>
References: <2r87b9$me8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <2r87b9$me8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (W. Klemm) writes:
> Now I've finally managed to mount my DOS partition on my SCSI disk with
> NSfIP (NEXTSTEP doesn't like replacing its boot manager with a fancier,
> like OS-BS ;-). According to NeXTanswers I should avoid mounting
> DOS partitions with more than 32 MB, so I've made two 32 MB partitions.
> Is it true that it's impossible to mount the second DOS partition on the
> same drive (it's a logical drive in an extended partition) ?
A couple of points:
- the > 32MB restriction will go away soon. A patch should be availble
in NeXTanswers at some point. (the patch is being tested now)
- yes, it's true that it's impossible to mount the second DOS partition
off of the same drive.
> NeXT please! Correct this stupid limitation! Why should I consider
> buying SoftPC when there's no practical way to share your programs/data
with
> DOS ? With Linux, it would be a matter of days between detection and
> correction of such a bug!
Well, I'll tell you why I haven't fixed this problem. The problem is that
this isn't a "stupid limitation", but rather is an architectural issue.
In other words, the current implementation of our loadable filesystems has
some fundamental problems that makes multiple foreign filesystem
partitions on a single drive very difficult to implement. This isn't to
say that the problem is impossible to fix, just difficult. I have a
couple of solutions in mind, but didn't have time to address them for our
next release. Sorry.
Hopefully, removing the > 32MB problems will help make this less of a
problem for you.
Erik
my opinions are my own. So is my Active.mbox. Please don't flood it...
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Version Number for WP/FIP?
Date: 16 May 1994 20:16:58 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2r8kbq$qcg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
the other day I ordered Wordperfect for NS/FIP (I know
it's been discontinued but that WP still sells copies of
last version). Nascorp sent to my campus bookstore
a version 1.01, dated May 1992 I believe, swearing up and
down it runs also on NS/Intel. Of course it doesn't,
and I need to to know what version number and date
app I have to get, if I can get it.For Intel.
Is the version MAB or FAT? (Are we given a choice of
architectures or is it FAT binary?)
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: Alembic Systems - Whats the Problem!!!
Message-ID: <1994May16.202245.1423@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <CpvADo.62G@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 20:22:45 GMT
David Bradford writes
> I ordered some software from Alembic Systems 2 Months Ago !!!
>
>
> What is their F___ing problem. For the last THREE weeks I have called
>
> them for it and they keep saying that they are checking and will call
>
> me right back. They have never ever called back despite a number of
>
> calls from me.
>
> HAS ANYONE HAD THIS KIND OF PISS POOR SERVICE BEFORE?
>
> IS ALEMBIC FOR REAL OR IS IT SOME KIND OF SHAM OPERATION?
So far...
> I feel better now!
Which is strange, considering the fact that your situation hasn't changed by
writing this.
Sorry, couldn't resist 8-)
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki)
Subject: Re: Problems with using 'talk' (solved)
Message-ID: <1994May16.221747.3956@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <Cpw001.6zG@dcs.hull.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 22:17:47 GMT
In article <Cpw001.6zG@dcs.hull.ac.uk> andyc@viking.e-eng.hull.ac.uk
(Andrew Carnegie) writes:
> In article <2r6lj5$bkq@mustang.alleg.edu> bussarj@alleg.edu (Jeremy
Bussard)
> writes:
[...munch...]
> Aaargh. Shouldn't this be in the FAQ by now? Is it in there and I missed
it?
> I could be wrong but the problem is probably because Piotrs machine
doesn't
> know that it itself is a host. Use HostManager.app to set this up. Do
> Host>New and fill in the details. Make sure you use the correct address
and
> with a bit of luck talk should work. I had this same problem for ages
> until I figured it out. Hope it works for you too.
>
> Andy
> Hull University, UK
> A.Carnegie@e-eng.hull.ac.uk No NextMail (*SOB*)
Thank you for the hint. Indeed it was the NetInfo setup... I simply
edited the 'localhost' entry by adding an alias with the name of my
machine. After a reboot everything works like a beauty.
Thank you again,
Peter.
From: mallen@nwu.edu (Mark Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages has excellent customer service
Date: 17 May 1994 00:13:27 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2r9277$2ep@news.acns.nwu.edu>
This is just a quick note to tell everyone how great and satisfied I have been
with Pages' customer service. They had a fix out for my problem Federal
Expressed within two days. And just today I got another FedEx for the updated
version with my new design template.
The only complaint I have is more design templates (although the ones that are
supplied are great.)
--
mallen@nwu.edu PGP key by request (NeXTMail welcome)
Using Goedel's Theorem, you can circumvent the Antioch
Sexual Conduct rules by asking the question, "Would you
like to unprovably violate the sexual offense policy with
me?" and be assured of complete mathematical rigor.
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages has excellent customer service
Date: 17 May 1994 00:40:25 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <2r93pp$jsi@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <2r9277$2ep@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <2r9277$2ep@news.acns.nwu.edu> mallen@nwu.edu (Mark Allen) writes:
>This is just a quick note to tell everyone how great and satisfied I have been
>with Pages' customer service. They had a fix out for my problem Federal
>Expressed within two days. And just today I got another FedEx for the updat
>version with my new design template.
>
>The only complaint I have is more design templates (although the ones that are
>supplied are great.)
>
>--
This is just a "me too" post. I also am very pleased with the
level of support from Pages. They have been a class act from the word go.
Here's wishing them a great deal of success!
Rich Ogata
rogata@arpa.mil
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages has excellent customer service
Date: 17 May 1994 01:06:39 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2r95av$2aj@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <2r9277$2ep@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2r93pp$jsi@umd5.umd.edu>
In article <2r93pp$jsi@umd5.umd.edu>,
Richard Scott Ogata <rogata@is-next.umd.edu> wrote:
>In article <2r9277$2ep@news.acns.nwu.edu> mallen@nwu.edu (Mark Allen) writes:
>>This is just a quick note to tell everyone how great and satisfied I have been
>>with Pages' customer service. They had a fix out for my problem Federal
>>Expressed within two days. And just today I got another FedEx for the updat
>>version with my new design template.
>>
>>The only complaint I have is more design templates (although the ones that are
>>supplied are great.)
>>
>>--
>
> This is just a "me too" post. I also am very pleased with the
>level of support from Pages. They have been a class act from the word go.
>Here's wishing them a great deal of success!
>
>Rich Ogata
>rogata@arpa.mil
Me too. Pages support (and Pages app itself) is astounding.
R. de Lucca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Ron Backman <backman@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil>
Subject: Problems with GSQL compile
Message-ID: <CpxA6H.6wx@avalon.chinalake.navy.mil>
Sender: usenet@avalon.chinalake.navy.mil (NAWS news admin)
Organization: Naval Air Warfare Center
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 01:15:52 GMT
I am trying to compile gsql.c on a Next machine running
NextStep 3.2. It compiles, but gives many warnings that
all say:
gsql.c:64: warning: assignment of pointer from integer
lack a cast
When I try to run gsql, I get the message "Bad Executable".
I have gotten the same warnings from 2 different machines at
2 different sites. Also, when I compile in on a Sparc 10 running
BSD, it compiles and runs perfectly. Is there anyone that has
successfully compiled gsql on the Next that would be willing to
send me the executables?
Next topic....
I want to use gsql as a 4GL for a Sybase database. I know I
am pushing past the limits that gsql was intended to do, but
I would like to know if there is anyone already started developing
the type of application I am looking for.
What I want is for the results of the sqlquery to be displayed
in a form that looks just like the one the user filled out and
submitted. For
example, if I had a form that looked like:
Name: ___________________
Adress: ___________________
Phone: ____________________
Submit
and the user filled in the Name field and pressed Submit what I would
like to see returned is the same form wiht the results entered into the
fields. Then the user could put in a new name and do another submit
to get new info.
Also, I would like to do Updates and Deletes based on the infor
that the user typed into the form.
I would also like to Also, are there any plans to add options to the form
widgets so that
you can set size of the field, default values, type, etc.
Oops, that paragraph should read:
Also, are there any plans to add options to the form widgets so that
you can set size of the field, default values, type, etc.?
Thanks,
Steve McLean
mclean@soltech.com
SolTech Systems Corporation
Charleston, SC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!!
In-Reply-To: jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu's message of 16 May 1994 06:22:10 GMT
To: jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Jordan Hazen)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May16101454@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2r73ei$sal@wea.eel.ufl.edu>
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 14:14:51 GMT
In article <2r73ei$sal@wea.eel.ufl.edu> jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Jordan Hazen) writes:
I've run into a serious problem with NextStep, running on a network of
black hardware boxes. It seems that certain programs allocate
virtual-memory space and never return or re-use this space, eventually
filling up the swap device to capacity with stale pages and causing a
system crash. The only two programs that seem to do this (that we've
noticed) are the ImageViewer application (by Lennart Lovstrand) and
the Wingz spreadsheet (the last version released before Wingz was
discontinued).
You misunderstand. Virtual memory is allocated and freed under NS
just as under any other version of UN*X. What you are complaining
about is that the swap file doesn't shrink. True, but this does not
mean that the pages in that file can't be reused any number of times.
It means that if one of your big processes uses a lot of virtual
memory, it will cause pages to be allocated in the swap file and the
swap file will grow. When the process exits, those pages will be freed
even if the swap file doesn't shrink. Then when you start another big
process, it will have all those freed swap pages available and the
swap file will only start growing again after it has used up all the
space in the swap file. The swap file will never grow larger than the
total amount of virtual memory in use at some point.
Under every other version of UNIX I've encountered, memory space gets
returned to the free pool once the program that allocated it is gone,
but this apparently doesn't happen under NeXT Mach.
Just think of the swap file as a swap partition with the added benefit
that when it fills up instead of panicking (as many versions of UN*X
would) NS just grows it safely. I've rarely heard people complain
about the fact that their swap partitions don't shrink when they
aren't being used but for some reason that seems to some to be a valid
criticism of NS. If you really don't like that behavior, just add a
hiwat and a lowat switch to your swap initialization and you have
exactly replicated the behavior of a fixed size swap partition. If
this still yields unacceptable behavior, buy more core memory.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gjackson@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Message-ID: <CpxHwn.MoD@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: Surfing the Net from Home...
References: <2r87b9$me8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 04:02:29 GMT
W. Klemm (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote:
: Now I've finally managed to mount my DOS partition on my SCSI disk with
: NSfIP (NEXTSTEP doesn't like replacing its boot manager with a fancier,
: like OS-BS ;-).
[ the rest deleted... ]
I didn't have any problems getting OS-BS to work. I am using DOS, Linux,
and NS so I needed something that would handle all 3 and OS-BS works great !
Gary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: snl@damrak.slip.cs.cmu.edu (Sean Levy)
Subject: NewsGrazer "infinite spin mode" at random...
Message-ID: <CpxHJx.Dq4.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 03:55:09 GMT
Config: '040 cube, NS3.1, 16MB, TransSys DialupIP, MultiTech 14.4,
NewsGrazer Release 2.0, Version 72.3
Oneliner: Can I tell NewsGrazer that I'm using a slow link?
Details:
Occasionally, NewsGrazer decides to go into what I call "infinite spin mode"
(the mouse cursor turns into that spinning wheel ad inf.). Judging from
the status indicators on my modem, I gather its trying to be clever about
caching or prefecting news or something, but over this slow CSLIP connection
this is a Big Lose. Is there any way to tell NewsGrazer that we've got a
slow link here and to keep NNTP traffic that I don't explicitly initiate
to a MINIMUM? None of the Preferences look useful at all.
In general, my major complaint about 'Grazer is SPEED. Do I have a pathetically
old release? Is there something better?
Cheers,
-- Sean
--
prototype (n) -
Sean Levy, n-dim Group, EDRC, CMU | +1 412 268- | something you intend to
snl+@CMU.EDU (MIME,ATK) | 5222(vox) | throw away, but somehow
snl@DAMRAK.SLIP.CS.CMU.EDU (NeXT) | 5229(fax) | never do.
From: Michael Powers <powers@kaleida.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Video support for NeXT
Date: 17 May 1994 01:48:17 GMT
Organization: Kaleida Labs
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2r97p2$2ea@golden.kaleida.com>
I am considering a NeXT486 for use in developing rapid
production tools for Multimedia. Does NEXTSTEP support
digital video in a kit? Can it convert from QuickTime?
Are there any tools on the market that support multimedia
production. (I know about Callisto's product for producing
CDI titles.)
All information that would convince me to buy are welcome :)
Michael Powers Kaleida Labs
Senior Media Designer 1945 Charleston Road
(415) 966-0400 Mountain View, CA 94043
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages
Date: 17 May 1994 08:17:04 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2r9ui0$6id@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
Is there a DEMO-version of Pages I can get with FTP ?
Thanks
Oli
From: doko@cs.tu-berlin.de (Matthias Klose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FrameMaker on colorstation sloooowwww
Date: 17 May 1994 10:18:58 GMT
Organization: TU Berlin Fachbereich Informatik
Message-ID: <2ra25o$jar@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
When typing in a FrameMaker document, the text cursor runs 2 to 10
characters behind your typing. I have seen this only on color
stations.
This make FM (3.0.1) really unusable for 10-finger typers. Is there
any patch available?
Matthias
From: mgs460@ku-eichstaett.de (GERALD GRASSMANN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS IndexKit
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 11:45:53 GMT
Organization: Katholische Universitaet Eichstaett
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <mgs460.21.769175153@ku-eichstaett.de>
Anyone who can help me finding detailed information and some sample
sources for demonstrating the power of the IndexKit?
Thanks in advance.
Gerald.
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 17 May 1994 12:42:24 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2rae3g$i73@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2r87b9$me8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
: doesn't like replacing its boot manager with a fancier,
: like OS-BS ;-). According to NeXTanswers I should avoid mounting
actually, when I called NeXT they said it was 64meg limit. I made my DOS
partition 101 megs, and the only problem I have is if the file I want is
physically past the 64 meg mark, it will copy a blank file... but at the
63meg mark it works.... so the NeXTanswers is wrong....
BTW: I run NS/FIP v3.2
Gary
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From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: MAB CNews
Message-ID: <1994May17.012059.12466@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 01:20:59 GMT
Is there a MAB version of CNEWS out there anywhere. I am sure I could
just edit the makefiles to compile it up FAT, but I just wanted to check
first and see if anyone already has the binaries before I bug it up.
--
Sincerely,
Neil Greene
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From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: Alembic Systems - Whats the Problem!!!
Message-ID: <1994May17.041046.6491@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <CpvADo.62G@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 04:10:46 GMT
In article <CpvADo.62G@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David
Bradford) writes:
> HAS ANYONE HAD THIS KIND OF PISS POOR SERVICE BEFORE?
>
> IS ALEMBIC FOR REAL OR IS IT SOME KIND OF SHAM OPERATION?
>
Alembic may be _disorganized_ but it is for real. If you don't get
satisfaction from the sales slugs insist on talking to the Sales
Manager, Tom Young or, going over his head, the owner Dale Pratt.
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DBKit adapter for free db ?
Date: 17 May 1994 14:51:16 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <2rall4$1h9@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Some time ago, someone published a shareware adapter for gdbm. Since
there were problems with the GPL, he retired this project and decided to
go for another free database (I don't remember which it was).
Does anybody know what happened to this project ? I'd really like to play
around with the DBKit.
Gregor
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Video support for NeXT
Message-ID: <CpyCAL.48s@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <2r97p2$2ea@golden.kaleida.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 14:59:07 GMT
In article <2r97p2$2ea@golden.kaleida.com> Michael Powers <powers@kaleida.com>
writes:
>>
>>I am considering a NeXT486 for use in developing rapid
>>production tools for Multimedia. Does NEXTSTEP support
>>digital video in a kit? Can it convert from QuickTime?
>>Are there any tools on the market that support multimedia
>>production. (I know about Callisto's product for producing
>>CDI titles.)
>>
>>All information that would convince me to buy are welcome :)
>>
It's in the pipe. It's called NEXTTIME. It's described as a media framework. No
official release date has been announced.
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CIM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: mwilliam@unm.edu (Mark Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: libg++ under NS2.0
Date: 17 May 1994 09:19:00 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ran94$lhb@hydra.unm.edu>
I've been trying to get libg++ installed under NS 2.0, and have had trouble
finding the right version. I believe that version 1.37 is the latest I can
use. Is this right? and where do I find this *old* version.
Please email if you can help answer these questions, or have other information
on how to make this work.
Thanks in advance,
Mark Williams
mwilliam@hydra.unm.edu
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with SoftPC and Diamond Viper
Date: 17 May 1994 16:06:28 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2raq24$2u7@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
I own a Diamond Viper graphics card. The instructions for NeXT's driver say
SoftPC won't run on it in full-screen mode.
Unfortunately, SoftPC apparently _starts_ in full-screen mode. I get the
following message:
Error
This session of SoftPC will not support full screen graphics
Quit Continue
If I press "Quit" the application quits. If I press "Continue"...the
application quits!
AIRGH. Anyone? How do you tell SoftPC to start up in non-full-screen mode
by default?
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) UCLA CS in September |
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From: pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com (Ronald Pepper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TRN on NextStep
Date: 17 May 1994 16:49:05 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Corporation
Message-ID: <2rasi1$bbe@uudell.us.dell.com>
Hello,
I am trying to get TRN for NextStep so that others who telnet to my
system can read news with it. Any idea where I can get a copy that
will work on NextStep...all the ones I can find use shared libraries.
Thanks in advance,
Ron.
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Subject: Searching for BBS
Message-ID: <1994May17.071514.897@balou.rhein.de>
Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de
Organization: private NeXT
Date: Tue, 17 May 94 07:15:14 GMT
Hejsa,
does anybody know, if there is a BBS for the NeXT? I want to have a nice
menu-system where people can dial in and browse through news and mail and can
exchange files etc.
tommi
------
Thomas Pfleiderer
tommi@balou.rhein.de
voice/fax: +49 2225 701332
NeXT-Mail appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark Conway)
Subject: Re: Pages has excellent customer service
Message-ID: <CpyF3C.7DA@ryn.mro.dec.com>
Sender: news@ryn.mro.dec.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Marlboro, MA
References: <2r9277$2ep@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2r93pp$jsi@umd5.umd.edu> <2r95av$2aj@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 15:59:36 GMT
Is this the same Pages Inc. that is traded
publicly on NASDAQ?
- Mark
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!!
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 12:41:33 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4hqDCxu00iV283P=FP@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CEDMAN.94May16101454@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 16-May-94 Re: Virtual mem.
never get .. by Carl Edman@princeton.edu
> [ good comments deleted]
> If you really don't like that behavior, just add a
> hiwat and a lowat switch to your swap initialization and you have
> exactly replicated the behavior of a fixed size swap partition. If
> this still yields unacceptable behavior, buy more core memory.
Actually, most people are better off buying a small hard drive and using
it as a swapdisk. I would suggest anywhere from 105MB to 250MB as being
pretty reasonable, although a fair number of people would be happy
enough with something like the 40MB swap drive found in the Cube, while
others with machines under massive load that absolutely must remain
running for as long as possible, might consider getting even more swap
space.
(BTW, I use my NeXTstations' original 250MB Seagate as my swapdrive now.
Works wonderfully...)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs 19.23 [new version] and Emacs 4.0 for NeXTSTEP
Date: 17 May 1994 17:14:08 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rau10$8ln@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <9405170936.AA17574@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
I figured I'd repost this here, since it seems like it will inevitably
come up, and I wanted first crack.
Richard Stallman writes
> Emacs 19.23 is now available on prep.ai.mit.edu
> in the file pub/gnu/emacs-19.23.tar.gz. That file is 7 meg long.
> Diffs are not yet available.
>
> Emacs is the extensible, customizable, self-documenting real-time
> display editor and computing environment.
>
> Please report bugs to
> bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
>
> Major changes in this version include:
>
> Support for an X toolkit, including dialog boxes.
> Support for MSDOG.
> Much faster text properties.
> Menus now display keyboard equivalents.
> Mouse-sensitive areas can highlight under the mouse.
> Mouse-2 in many modes (Dired, Compilation, Occur, Buffer-menu...)
> selects or moves to the item you click on.
>
The obvious questions are "Will these changes be folded in to Emacs for
NeXTSTEP?" and "Does it matter?"
Some of these items look like they would be nice, and should patch in
directly (Text, Mouse-2, Keyboard Equivalents). Other stuff, like the
dialog boxes, would probably require more work.
Note: I for one am EXTREMELY grateful for Emacs 4.0, and if Carl
doesn't make it a priority to reapply the patches, I for one will NOT
complain. I am, however, curious as to what he thinks of 19.23, what
his plans are, AND what sort of things he would like from the rest of
us!
Thanks,
-- Ernie P.
--
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Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu
"...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b
#import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on colorstation sloooowwww
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 17:49:48 GMT
Message-ID: <1994May17.174948.12366@cyantic.com>
References: <2ra25o$jar@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
In article <2ra25o$jar@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> doko@cs.tu-berlin.de writes:
>When typing in a FrameMaker document, the text cursor runs 2 to 10
>characters behind your typing. I have seen this only on color
>stations.
>
>This make FM (3.0.1) really unusable for 10-finger typers. Is there
>any patch available?
I have forgotten the exact details, but FM boots up in monochrome mode
which results in a poorly aligned frame buffer in the colour systems and
produces slow screen writes. (Is this right?)
Anyway, just drop a colour element into the document and presto!
everything just sings since FM now is using colour mode which matches up
nicely with the system.
Most of my standard FM templates now have a hidden colour element in them
somewhere, so I don't have this problem very often.
--
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1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TRN on NextStep
Date: 17 May 94 19:55:26 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.769204526@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <2rasi1$bbe@uudell.us.dell.com>
pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com (Ronald Pepper) writes:
> I am trying to get TRN for NextStep so that others who telnet to my
>system can read news with it. Any idea where I can get a copy that
>will work on NextStep...all the ones I can find use shared libraries.
I just grabbed trn 3.4.1 from ftp.uni-stuttgart.de and it compiled
straightforward on NS/I 3.2. The configure script does a good job.
Ask me via email for further details if necessary.
Markus.
--
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TRN on NextStep
Date: 17 May 1994 19:58:42 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <2rb7li$ril@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <2rasi1$bbe@uudell.us.dell.com>
In article <2rasi1$bbe@uudell.us.dell.com>,
Ronald Pepper <pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com> wrote:
> I am trying to get TRN for NextStep so that others who telnet to my
>system can read news with it. Any idea where I can get a copy that
>will work on NextStep...all the ones I can find use shared libraries.
The canonical trn is always available from ftp.uunet.net. But if
you like, I have the latest regular release (3.4.1) in my ftp
directory (yak.macc.wisc.edu, 144.92.30.18). I would be glad
to hear from someone who's running that version under NS 3.2,
because there are some warnings during compilation, and one very
odd feature having to do with rerunning a KILL file if more
articles come in while you're reading a group with a lot of
unread news.
--
<> Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from
<> the monkey cage.
<> -- H.L. Mencken
--
Opinions expressed herein have no connection with the UW-Madison.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Programming in Edit ? : Page up/down on a CommandKey
References: <2r0hpu$h7h@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 06:18:15 GMT
Message-ID: <1994May17.061815.11043@proximus.north.de>
In article <2r0hpu$h7h@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>,
Erland Wittkoetter <erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de> wrote:
>Hello
>
>Unfortunately I miss one ability in Edit. On PC's we have extra
>page up / page down keys which make it pretty fast if you prefer to
>work only with your keyboard. I really miss this ability. But maybe
>there is a way to implement this also in the current version
>of Edit. Is there any expert out there, who has already find out
>how to do this.
[...]
Ctrl-V works in "emacs mode". Unfortunately ESC-V does not.
Gerhard.
From: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com (Peter Lipps)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Searching for BBS
Date: 17 May 1994 21:03:49 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2rbbfl$9ve@rosie.next.com>
References: <1994May17.071514.897@balou.rhein.de>
Keywords: BBS, NeXTanswers
In article <1994May17.071514.897@balou.rhein.de> tommi@balou.rhein.de
(Thomas Pfleiderer) writes:
> Hejsa,
>
> does anybody know, if there is a BBS for the NeXT?
Since you are based in Germany you are lucky ;-)
Yes, there is a NeXT/NEXTSTEP BBS (here's a quote from the NeXTanswers
Europe CD installation notes)
USING NEXTANSWERS BY BBS
An independent NeXT-BBS, the OCTAGON-Mailbox, has been established
in Weilheim, Germany to distribute NeXTanswers via modem.
To connect to this mailbox, dial +49 08803-61111.
Set your communications software to 8bit/No Parity.
The mailbox supports protocols up to V.32 and PEP.
The BBS also maintains an ISDN connection under a NICCY 3000 modem
with the number +49 08803-6214-9.
For further information, please contact Mr. Alexander Steins,
alex@octagon.de per e-mail.
and yes it runs on a NEXTSTEP system.
Greetings from Germany
-Peter
______________________________
Peter Lipps
NeXT Computer Deutschland GmbH - Oskar-Messter-Str. 24, 85737 Ismaning,
Germany
InterNet: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 17 May 1994 21:20:08 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2rbce8$a00@rosie.next.com>
References: <2rae3g$i73@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In article <2rae3g$i73@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes:
>
> : doesn't like replacing its boot manager with a fancier,
> : like OS-BS ;-). According to NeXTanswers I should avoid mounting
>
> actually, when I called NeXT they said it was 64meg limit. I made my
DOS
> partition 101 megs, and the only problem I have is if the file I want is
> physically past the 64 meg mark, it will copy a blank file... but at the
> 63meg mark it works.... so the NeXTanswers is wrong....
> BTW: I run NS/FIP v3.2
uhh... no. We put out that warning for a reason. If you use DOS
partitions larger than 32MB, there's a very good chance that you will
experience serious data corruption. If all you are doing is reading data,
and you're only reading that data off of the front of the disk (how you
would know that the data is off of the front of the disk is beyond me),
then chances are, you won't get burned. But if you write to the
partition, or you need to know that the data you read off of the disk is
accurate, you will be screwed if you use DOS partitions larger than 32 MB.
This is why we put out the NeXTanswer. The NeXTanswer is not wrong.
Erik
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MUD clinet for NSI 3.2?
Date: 17 May 1994 23:02:36 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rbiec$1sf@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Does anyone know of a MUD client for NS Intel 3.2? Something like
tin-tin (that's what it's called isn't it?).
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kchapman@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Chapman)
Subject: DataBase Suggestions????
Message-ID: <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 17:49:54 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
We are looking for a relational DataBase usable on the NeXT system. We were using DataPhile, but
discovered that it does not have the application abilities that we are looking for. We have a
limited budget (of course) and limited amount of time (<1week). So you can see that any information
that you may have would be most helpful.
From: lestat@cs.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MUD clinet for NSI 3.2?
Date: 17 May 1994 23:47:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rbl1p$3b9@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2rbiec$1sf@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2rbiec$1sf@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe
Panico) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know of a MUD client for NS Intel 3.2? Something like
> tin-tin (that's what it's called isn't it?).
>
> Joe Panico
> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
>
Yes, you can find one at:
ftp.math.okstate.edu
and look for /pub/muds/clients/UnixClients/tintin++v1.2.2h2.tar.gz
You'll need to recompile it, as it was written for NeXTSTEP 2.1.
Hope that helps,
Faizel
lestat@cs.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sidd@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Siddhartha Devadhar)
Subject: NextStep
Distribution: ca
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <1994May17.175652.214@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 May 94 17:56:52 GMT
I found a Next machine and would like to install the
latest official NextStep OS.
Could someone please post the company phone, fax, e-mail
and the latest version number of the OS?
Thanks,
-Sidd
--
If you accept nothing you have nothing to give.
From: david@worg.questor.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Librarian printing anomaly
Message-ID: <1994May16.212933.9163@worg.questor.org>
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 21:29:33 GMT
Organization: Vancouver NeXT Users Society (VNUS)
I wonder if anyone has noticed this:
If I open up several documents at once in Librarian and print them one
after another, the fonts become smaller and smaller on successive copies.
--
David Lau (aka Sleepy Head)
Independent Software Developer
Phone: (604)276-1873 FAX: (604)276-1874
Email: david@worg.questor.org
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Programming in Edit ? : Page up/down on a CommandKey
Date: 18 May 1994 01:29:46 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2rbr2a$ih6@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2r0hpu$h7h@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> <1994May17.061815.11043@proximus.north.de>
In article <1994May17.061815.11043@proximus.north.de>
gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
>Ctrl-V works in "emacs mode". Unfortunately ESC-V does not.
Use Alternate-V. Emacs' ESC is a meta prefix for 7-bit keyboards
(i.e. ones that don't have Meta or Edit shifts). Since the
NEXTSTEP keyboard isn't deficient, Edit doesn't need to implement
this kludge.
Edit uses ESC for a different purpose (expansion).
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: flexfax under 3.2
Message-ID: <Cpz3yt.8H8@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 00:56:53 GMT
I just got the flexfax distribution from SGI. Looks cool. I want it because I
have some systems that I need to be able to "poll" and get faxes from, and it
seems like the only way under NS.
The doc's claim to want gcc 2.4.5 which is a bit of a bind.
Has anyone successfully built it?
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DataBase Suggestions????
Date: 18 May 1994 02:27:10 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rbudu$lev@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
kchapman@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Chapman) writes:
> We are looking for a relational DataBase usable on the NeXT
> system. We were using DataPhile, but discovered that it does
> not have the application abilities that we are looking for. We
> have a limited budget (of course) and limited amount of time
> ( <1week ). So you can see that any information that you may
> have would be most helpful.
Uh, that time constraint may be a bit tough to do...
You could try sending an email message to sdc_demo@gun.com
This will get you a demo version of QuickBase, which is a
relational database engine which you can program using your
choice of methods. You can either use SQL commands, or if
you know how to do DBkit stiff then there's a DBkit adaptor
for it too.
What is at the above address is a daemon which will send
about ten or twelve NeXTmail-style email messages to the
email address that sent the message. It is automatic, it
is not a person. Only send a message to it from an account
that you can handle NeXTmail on.
If you want to contact a person, try sending a message to
sdc@gun.com. I'm still afraid that you're not going to be
able to sort it all out and get a project finished within
one week, but this is the avenue that I'd recommend for you.
Disclaimers:
a) I have no financial connection to the company (SofDesign
Solutions), but the guy who started it is an acquaintance
of mine.
b) I've never used the DBkit adaptor of QuickBase (mainly
because I've been using QuickBase since before there was
a DBkit (never mind a DBkit adaptor for QuickBase).
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Emacs 19.23 [new version] and Emacs 4.0 for NeXTSTEP
In-Reply-To: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu's message of 17 May 1994 17:14:08 GMT
To: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May17184839@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <9405170936.AA17574@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <2rau10$8ln@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 22:48:39 GMT
In article <2rau10$8ln@gap.cco.caltech.edu> ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes:
The obvious questions are "Will these changes be folded in to Emacs for
NeXTSTEP?" and "Does it matter?"
Some of these items look like they would be nice, and should patch in
directly (Text, Mouse-2, Keyboard Equivalents). Other stuff, like the
dialog boxes, would probably require more work.
Note: I for one am EXTREMELY grateful for Emacs 4.0, and if Carl
doesn't make it a priority to reapply the patches, I for one will NOT
complain. I am, however, curious as to what he thinks of 19.23, what
his plans are, AND what sort of things he would like from the rest of
us!
Nice of you to ask. Actually, I've been working on applying those
patches for the past twelve hours or so straight.** The preliminary
diagnosis is that 19.23 breaks a lot more than any of the other
patches in the past year and that it will require some work. On the
other hand, it should be possible and I'm working on it. Look for
19.23 in Emacs for NS 4.1 in a couple months (and patches for the
people on the testers list maybe in a few weeks). Emacs 4.1 will also
contain some other nice stuff I've added already, such as full gdb
support, a color palette and color dragging, automatic saving of
preferences, some performance enhancements, bug fixes, a blinking
cursor, NS style requesters and more.
Carl Edman
** Just quickly catching up on the news while emacs byte compiles the
new files.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Video support for NeXT
Message-ID: <CpzFwq.Fnx@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2r97p2$2ea@golden.kaleida.com>
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 05:14:50 GMT
Michael Powers (powers@kaleida.com) wrote:
: I am considering a NeXT486 for use in developing rapid
: production tools for Multimedia. Does NEXTSTEP support
: digital video in a kit? Can it convert from QuickTime?
: Are there any tools on the market that support multimedia
: production. (I know about Callisto's product for producing
: CDI titles.)
One thing to look at for sure is ScreenMachine II, the live video
board/software for NeXTSTEP/Intel. I think Alembic sells it, even though
it's really from Germany. (info@alembic.com). I've used it, and it is an
_excellent_ product. (Video IN, not video OUT, BTW)
The people who make ScreenMachine also make a developers' package of some
sort. The ScreenMachine software I have came with a demo of an Interface
Builder palette for creating apps that can use the SM board. I haven't
looked at it, though...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: amiga.software,uk.misc,uw.mfcf.software,comp.sys.next.software,comp.software-eng,biz.comp.software,bionet.users.addresses,news.software.b,news.software.anu-news
From: ramzeys@netcom.com (Adan Klein)
Subject: Graphic BBS, Gif to RIP
Message-ID: <ramzeysCpzoCA.JwL@netcom.com>
Summary: Gif to RIP software needed for BBS
Keywords: graphics,rip,bbs,gif,convert
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 08:16:58 GMT
I am trying to find a graphical software program that can convert Gif
graphic files to RIP (Remote Image Processing). RIP is a much better
graphical interface rather then ansi. Basically, what I need a is any
software program that can convert a GIF to .RIP file so I can edit it. I
am desparate to find such a thing. If someone could please tell me where
one might be, that would be so great. If you do not understand what RIP
is, then reply, and maybe you have seen one somewhere. Please anyone that
might know write me some email right away, I am desparate.
ramzeys P.S. Please reply by email:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: DataBase Suggestions????
Message-ID: <1994May18.081145.4336@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 08:11:45 GMT
In article <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
kchapman@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Chapman) writes:
> We are looking for a relational DataBase usable on the NeXT system. We
were using DataPhile, but
> discovered that it does not have the application abilities that we are
looking for. We have a
> limited budget (of course) and limited amount of time (<1week). So you
can see that any information
> that you may have would be most helpful.
If you want something like DataPhile, but multiuser, try Parabase.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on colorstation sloooowwww
Message-ID: <CpyvC7.2Iz@trapac.com>
Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation
References: <2ra25o$jar@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 21:50:31 GMT
In article <2ra25o$jar@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> doko@cs.tu-berlin.de
(Matthias Klose) writes:
> When typing in a FrameMaker document, the text cursor runs 2 to 10
> characters behind your typing. I have seen this only on color
> stations.
>
I seem to recall that this was a problem of window depth. Frammaker
creates a 12 bit color window, and slows down because the window on
the screen is 2 bit, and the letters need to be converted back and
forth. The solution is to change any letter or graphic in the
programs to a color (say red), and then change it back to black. This
will promote the window to color.
--
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
[My opinions are my own]
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DataBase Suggestions????
Date: 18 May 1994 10:17:35 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May18111735@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
<1994May18.081145.4336@seer.demon.co.uk>
To: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
In-reply-to: paul@seer.demon.co.uk's message of Wed, 18 May 1994 08:11:45 GMT
<paul@seer.demon.co.uk> writes:
>In article <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
>kchapman@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Chapman) writes:
>>We are looking for a relational DataBase usable on the NeXT system. We
>were using DataPhile, but
>>discovered that it does not have the application abilities that we are
>looking for. We have a
>>limited budget (of course) and limited amount of time (<1week). So you
>can see that any information
>>that you may have would be most helpful.
>If you want something like DataPhile, but multiuser, try Parabase.
Assuming you already have Sybase right?
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 18 May 1994 11:47:24 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2rcv8c$oq7@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2rae3g$i73@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2rbce8$a00@rosie.next.com>
Erik Kay (erikkay@next.com) wrote:
: In article <2rae3g$i73@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes:
: >
: > : doesn't like replacing its boot manager with a fancier,
: > : like OS-BS ;-). According to NeXTanswers I should avoid mounting
: >
: > actually, when I called NeXT they said it was 64meg limit. I made my
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
that is what the tech depatment said.
: DOS
: > partition 101 megs, and the only problem I have is if the file I want is
: > physically past the 64 meg mark, it will copy a blank file... but at the
: > 63meg mark it works.... so the NeXTanswers is wrong....
: > BTW: I run NS/FIP v3.2
: uhh... no. We put out that warning for a reason. If you use DOS
: partitions larger than 32MB, there's a very good chance that you will
: experience serious data corruption. If all you are doing is reading data,
: and you're only reading that data off of the front of the disk (how you
: would know that the data is off of the front of the disk is beyond me),
: then chances are, you won't get burned. But if you write to the
: partition, or you need to know that the data you read off of the disk is
: accurate, you will be screwed if
: you use DOS partitions larger than 32 MB.
: This is why we put out the NeXTanswer. The NeXTanswer is not wrong.
I can tell where the files are physiaclly on the drive,
I use speedisk(tm) and look at the map. when I want a file to transfer, I
just make sure it is below the 64meg water mark.....
there is one site that I can't use kermit at to get files I need for use
inside my NeXT partition. Usually my 101meg DOS partition has only about
35 megs on it, and these files do to the end, over the 32 meg mark and they
transfer fine without corruption. When I sometimes have more than 64megs on
the drive, I speeddisk the drive using the option to place files and I put
all the files I want to use to the front of the drive. Then they transfer
fine. Since I figured out what was goin on I have had no problems.
I am positive that I can transfer a file into NeXTSTEP partition
up to the 64meg mark without corruption. I guess I'm fortunate.
I will add this work around info to the yet-to-be released NS/FIP HomeBrew
FAQ......
Tschuss...
Gary
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------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: cpesch@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de (Christoph Pesch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bug in Emacs for NS 4.0?
Date: 18 May 1994 12:56:31 GMT
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Message-ID: <CPESCH.94May18145631@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de>
References: <TMS.94May13093054@litespeed.cfc.com>
<CEDMAN.94May13191120@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Fri, 13 May 1994 23:11:19 GMT
On Fri, 13 May 1994 23:11:19 GMT, cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) said:
> In article <TMS.94May13093054@litespeed.cfc.com> tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan) writes:
> 'indent-region' seems to be broken in either Emacs for NS 4.0. I took
> a completely unindented C program, set a mark at the beginning, moved
> the cursor to the end, then hit M-C-\, and nothing happened. This
> should have indented the whole thing nicely. (At least it did in
> emacs 18... :-) If I mark a section of about 10 lines and hit M-C-\
> it works. What's the deal?
> That seems to be a general GNU Emacs 19 c-mode bug. I just tested it
> under both the Emacs for NS 4.0 (i.e. GNU Emacs 19.22) and an
> unmodified GNU Emacs 19.19 on a Sun with a variety of indentation
> styles. The result always is that the first function (or other
> object) gets indented properly, but the the rest of the file isn't.
> You should report this to gnu.emacs.bugs.
If there is a blank line between the functions then this line
and all following lines will not be indented properly.
If you insert spaces in these blank lines then the indentation is correct.
You can write an elisp-function which inserts spaces in blank lines
as a workaround.
The documentation for 'indent-region' says:
---
indent-region: an interactive compiled Lisp function.
(indent-region START END COLUMN)
Indent each nonblank line in the region.
--- ========
Maybe 'c-indent-command' depends on the correct indentation of the
lines above the actual line.
Bye,
Christoph (cpesch@markov.fmi.uni-passau.de)
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Updated GatorFTP
Date: 18 May 1994 12:44:53 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2rd2k5$gmd@masala.cc.uh.edu>
The newest release of GatorFTP dated 5/17/94 (still 1.5, but there were some
minor fixes) is located at:
uhoop.egr.uh.edu:/pub/misc/GatorFTP/GatorFTP_MAB_1.5.app.tar.Z
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: chin@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu (Chin Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is it possible to turn off menu update in Emacs-4.0
Date: 18 May 1994 13:20:01 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Dept. U. of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <CHIN.94May18092001@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu>
Menu is wonderful in a sense you can find what you want to do without
memorizing all those commands. But it is so slow to swith from one
buffer to another buffer which I happened to do it a lot. Can this be
turned off?
--
chin@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DFG (Digital Function Generator) 3.2 Software
Message-ID: <1994May18.105647.24172@dal1>
Date: 18 May 94 10:56:47 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
PRESS RELEASE
May 18, 1994
DFG (Digital Function Generator) 3.2 Software for NeXTSTEP Computers
====================================================================
DFG_demo.app is a demo of the Digital Function Generator (DFG) -sound
synthesis software for NeXTSTEP - compatible computers. This version
should work on all Motorola and Intel - based NeXTSTEP computers with
NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* .
New version of DFG_demo.app is available on the following FTP sites:
( look for files DFG_demo.app.tar.Z and DFG_demo.README )
===============================
cs.orst.edu
nova.cc.purdue.edu
sonata.cc.purdue.edu
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl
===============================
Digital Recordings-Advanced R & D
Registered NeXTSTEP Developer
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ASCII File Filter 2.0 Software
Message-ID: <1994May18.105809.24173@dal1>
Date: 18 May 94 10:58:09 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
PRESS RELEASE
May 18, 1994
ASCII File Filter 2.0 Software for NeXTSTEP Computers
=====================================================
ASCII_Filter.app is a demo of the ASCII File Filter - ASCII and
binary file filtering software for NeXTSTEP - compatible computers.
This version should work on all Motorola and Intel - based NeXTSTEP
computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* .
New version of ASCII_Filter.app is available on the following FTP sites:
( look for files ASCII_Filter.app.tar.Z and ASCII_Filter.README )
===============================
cs.orst.edu
nova.cc.purdue.edu
sonata.cc.purdue.edu
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl
===============================
Digital Recordings-Advanced R & D
Registered NeXTSTEP Developer
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Creating HTML documents?
Message-ID: <1994May18.190135.1081@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 19:01:35 GMT
Hi, what is everyone using to create HTML documents under NeXTStep? Is there
anything which allows you to drag'n'drop file icons to create links?
BTW, when I was writing my newsreader, to handle the problem of interpreting
NewsGrazer/MIME/NeXTMail/etc format, I had a list of filters each of which
parsed an RTF stream and carried out any necessary conversions. Something
like this coupled with Edit would be ideal. Imagine if you had a HTML filter
switched on which checked for the presence of <a href="URL">...</a> strings
(ie hyperlinks to other files) and converted them to buttons. Clicking on the
button would take you to that file. The advantage of this is that it could
replace NeXT's help links. You don't need RTF for this, so you could embed
them in source code. They could also appear as plain text within RTF files.
Wouldn't it be nice if filters of the sort I'm talking about were a standard
feature of the AppKit, so that any application with a Text object (especially
Mail.app) could automatically make use of them. There could also be a
standard way of opening URL's in the Workspace Manager.
Dave Griffiths
PS: If I a decent HTML editor doesn't exist for NS, maybe I'll write an
indecent one.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Tami Bland)
Subject: NeXT Mail and Unix Mail
Message-ID: <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Sender: usenet@martha.utcc.utk.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 18:40:03 GMT
Does anyone know how to make my mail in my active mailbox within the
NeXT Mail applications accessible from straight Unix mail? I often
need to work from home where I don't have a windows interface to my
system.
Tami Bland
tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu
From: jcphill@uiuc.edu (Jim Phillips)
Newsgroups: cso.next,uiuc.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help needed with DYNAMIC slip
Date: 18 May 1994 19:25:44 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rdq3o$4mi@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: next slip
Originator: jcphill@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
I'm trying to set up a slip connection from my NeXT to the campus
slip server. I've looked at the documentation for PNI and dialupip
and they seem to require that the IP numbers be entered in the setup
file ahead of time. UIUC just implemented a new system called
dynamic slip in which you are assigned a new IP number from a pool
each time you call in. Does anyone have experience with this type
of system who can give me advice on how to set it up? Thanks.
-Jim Phillips
jcphill@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: makto@cis.umassd.edu (Makoto Sadahiro)
Subject: is there any good graphics software?
Message-ID: <Cq0Jwx.5r8@umassd.edu>
Keywords: graphics softare
Sender: usenet@umassd.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 19:38:57 GMT
hello. i am wondering if there is any good photo editing or painting
software like photoshop on macintosh. i am thinking getting next for graphics
work if trere are good software. also, what is graphics display capability
on next? can it display 24 bit? i knwo this is silly question, but i dont
know a lot about next. if next is good machine for graphics, i really like to
get one since this was dream machine when i was smaller...thank you
makto@cis.umassd.edu
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 18 May 1994 09:54:44 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2rcl4k$eoo@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2rae3g$i73@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2rbce8$a00@rosie.next.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) writes:
>uhh... no. We put out that warning for a reason. If you use DOS
>partitions larger than 32MB, there's a very good chance that you will
>experience serious data corruption. If all you are doing is reading data,
>and you're only reading that data off of the front of the disk (how you
>would know that the data is off of the front of the disk is beyond me),
>then chances are, you won't get burned. But if you write to the
>partition, or you need to know that the data you read off of the disk is
>accurate, you will be screwed if you use DOS partitions larger than 32 MB.
>This is why we put out the NeXTanswer. The NeXTanswer is not wrong.
My NeXTanswers document says something about _64_ MB maximum DOS partition
size! What the heck is right?
Markus.
--
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/usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
/etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart
/bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Programming in Edit ? : Page up/down on a CommandKey
Date: 18 May 1994 16:36:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9405182136.AA09615@cantina.lanl.gov>
Gerhard Moeller wrote, in this thread,
In article <2r0hpu$h7h@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>,
Erland Wittkoetter <erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de> wrote:
>Unfortunately I miss one ability in Edit. On PC's we have extra
>page up / page down keys which make it pretty fast if you prefer to
>work only with your keyboard. I really miss this ability. But maybe
>there is a way to implement this also in the current version
>of Edit. Is there any expert out there, who has already find out
>how to do this.
[...]
Ctrl-V works in "emacs mode". Unfortunately ESC-V does not.
Interesting. For me, with "emacs mode" set, this does NOT work.
However, this is a PC keyboard (NS/I) and I have installed the "NextUSA"
keyboard (in the Preferences module with all the flags). This changes the
CapsLock key into <ctl>, turns the <ctl> key into the left <alt>, and
turns the <alt> keys into <cmd> keys, sort of like on the NeXT keyboard
from which I came.
SO, for some strange reason, what I WOULD have called <meta-v> (and thus
"screen up" in real emacs) works as <ctl-v> in my Edit.app, "screen down".
Most curious behavior!
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: cso.next,uiuc.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help needed with DYNAMIC slip
Date: 18 May 1994 22:23:06 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2re4ga$s2v@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2rdq3o$4mi@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: next slip
jcphill@uiuc.edu (Jim Phillips) writes:
>I'm trying to set up a slip connection from my NeXT to the campus
>slip server. I've looked at the documentation for PNI and dialupip
>and they seem to require that the IP numbers be entered in the setup
>file ahead of time. UIUC just implemented a new system called
>dynamic slip in which you are assigned a new IP number from a pool
>each time you call in. Does anyone have experience with this type
>of system who can give me advice on how to set it up? Thanks.
I haven't set up PNI myself, I have been using dialupip for a long
time. In /usr/dialupip/config, there is a TCL script that you
should check out login-annex.tcl. It users TCL's "rexpect" call to
parse the address given by the server and do the ifconfig right
there. You will have to change it a bit, of course, to look for
what the terminal server will be giving you exactly.
I don't use dynamic (yet) so I'm afraid I don't have a working set
of config files for you.
--
David Lemson
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: WIRED on Tailor
Message-ID: <Cq0qAG.5vH@ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: WIRED, Tailor, Simson L. Garfinkel
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:56:39 GMT
Since I haven't seen this information posted, I thought I would post it.
In the June issue of WIRED on page 116, the following blurb appeared:
PostScript Surgery
In these days of multiplatform democracy, when
you can buy QuarkXPress for both Mac and Win-
dows and Adobe Photoshop for the SGI Indy, there is
still the occasional single-platform application that
is so useful it justifies buying a new computer. Graph-
ic artists and service bureaus might find this to be
the case with Tailor, a PostScript editing system
developed in Belgium by First Class NV.
...
...Tailor is so
useful that, for some people, its worth plunking
down the US$795 you need to purchase NEXTSTEP
so you can run Tailor on your 486 PC.
- Simson L. Garfinkel
Nice promo by Simson, huh?
Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: cso.next,uiuc.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help needed with DYNAMIC slip
Date: 18 May 1994 21:16:51 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May18221651@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2rdq3o$4mi@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
To: jcphill@uiuc.edu (Jim Phillips)
In-reply-to: jcphill@uiuc.edu's message of 18 May 1994 19:25:44 GMT
<jcphill@uiuc.edu> writes:
>I'm trying to set up a slip connection from my NeXT to the campus
>slip server. I've looked at the documentation for PNI and dialupip
>and they seem to require that the IP numbers be entered in the setup
>file ahead of time. UIUC just implemented a new system called
>dynamic slip in which you are assigned a new IP number from a pool
>each time you call in. Does anyone have experience with this type
>of system who can give me advice on how to set it up? Thanks.
>-Jim Phillips
> jcphill@uiuc.edu
Take a look at how the IP address is assigned in login-cisco.tcl and
login-annex.tcl
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: buster@spot.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster)
Subject: app to read .dbf or dbase files ?
Message-ID: <Cq0tBE.KLw@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU>
Sender: usenet@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU (Net News Administrator)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 23:02:02 GMT
is there an app available to read PeeCee dbase files, .dbf's I think ?
we have some data that we've been using a Mac and Excel to convert.
thanks
-paul buster
buster@boulder.Colorado.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: DataBase Suggestions????
Message-ID: <1994May18.223711.6324@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <ROBERT.94May18111735@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 22:37:11 GMT
In article <ROBERT.94May18111735@steffi.demon.co.uk>
robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
> <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
> >In article <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
> >kchapman@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Chapman) writes:
> >>We are looking for a relational DataBase usable on the NeXT system.
We
> >were using DataPhile, but
> >>discovered that it does not have the application abilities that we are
> >looking for. We have a
> >>limited budget (of course) and limited amount of time (<1week). So
you
> >can see that any information
> >>that you may have would be most helpful.
>
> >If you want something like DataPhile, but multiuser, try Parabase.
>
> Assuming you already have Sybase right?
The current version comes with a copy of GuptaSQL; it also costs a little
more. I believe that it still works with Sybase.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer)
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail and Unix Mail
Message-ID: <Cq0wBr.7vK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
References: <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 00:07:03 GMT
Tami Bland (tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know how to make my mail in my active mailbox within the
: NeXT Mail applications accessible from straight Unix mail? I often
: need to work from home where I don't have a windows interface to my
: system.
Easy: mail -f Mailboxes/foo.mbox/mbox
(where Mailboxes/foo is the pathname and name of your mailbox).
A related question:
When I ftp a mail file from a Sun mailserver, and install it as
~/Mailboxes/foo.mbox/mbox, it works great, BUT NeXTMail isn't
decoded (i.e. it still shows up as uuencoded, tar files). The funny
thing is that the NextAttachment: header is apparently parsed as a
header (it shows up in bold in Mail.app).
How do I get Mail.app to recognize NeXTMail as such? Do I have to mail
the messages to myself individually? That's inelegant at best ...
Thanks for your thoughts.
--
Will Fischer wfischer@indiana.edu
Department of Biology Voice: 812-855-2549
Indiana University Voice2: 812-333-2433
Bloomington, Indiana 47405 USA FAX: 812-333-7922
From: dzuzga@interaccess (David E. Zuzga)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Version control for NeXT
Date: 19 May 1994 00:23:56 GMT
Organization: IAC
Message-ID: <2rebit$piq@mailhost.interaccess.com>
Keywords: RCS revision GNU
Does anyone know of a good version control system for NeXTSTEP?
I was thinking of using CVS and RCS from GNU, but if there is one
written specifically for NeXT, I would like to know.
Dave Zuzga (dzuzga@interaccess.com)
From: pvinson@gryphon.laafb.af.mil (Patrick Vinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: AppleTalk
Date: 19 May 1994 01:07:56 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, Michigan, U.S.A.
Message-ID: <2ree5c$lv9@oak.oakland.edu>
References: <1994May13.183003.9233@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994May13.183003.9233@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
emstech@music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician) writes:
> ;-),
>
> Does anybody know who makes the AppleTalk application that came with
> NS3.0.
> Is it still available ? If not, is there another product that will mount
> Apple machines on the NeXT. It will be very nice to be able to backup
the
> Mac's on the NeXT BK system :-).
>
> Thanks
> --
> Alain Terriault
> System Operator
> Music Faculty, Mcgill University
> Montreal, Canada
>
> Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
The product is still avail. and reputed to be quite good:
IPT (Information Presentation Technologies) of San Luis Obispo, CA (805
541-3000).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer "infinite spin mode" at random...
Message-ID: <1994May18.200620.5817@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <CpxHJx.Dq4.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 20:06:20 GMT
In article <CpxHJx.Dq4.3@cs.cmu.edu> snl@damrak.slip.cs.cmu.edu (Sean
Levy) writes:
> Config: '040 cube, NS3.1, 16MB, TransSys DialupIP, MultiTech 14.4,
> NewsGrazer Release 2.0, Version 72.3
> Oneliner: Can I tell NewsGrazer that I'm using a slow link?
...munch...
> In general, my major complaint about 'Grazer is SPEED. Do I have a
> pathetically old release? Is there something better?
>
You just have a pathetically slow link! I consider it a poor choice to
read news interactively over slow IP links. If you want speed (and can
spare the buck) get a few hundret MB of disk and install a news server on
your machine. NNTP over slow links is excellent to feed a server but a
drag to support interactive news reading.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thomas@netcom.com (Tom Thomas)
Subject: Next doom with mail order WAD.. HELP
Message-ID: <thomasCq1277.HLx@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 02:13:55 GMT
Is it possible to run the 1.2 MAB DOOM from cs.orst.edu with the mail-order
WAD file, or the WAD files that are floating around on the net?
If so, How?
I tried to load one of the WAD's floating around on the net with the command
>Doom -f NewWad.wad
No luck..
I'd like to buy the game, but not if it won't run on a black box..
Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gap (Gernot A. Pohl)
Subject: text converter
Message-ID: <1994May18.180310.1439@utata.wy.in-berlin.de>
Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl)
Organization: YW
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 18:03:10 GMT
Does exist any free available & some intelligent text converter to get
some lovely DOS texts (with placed graphics) into NeXT?
(i.e. WinWord
Word
....
& whatever ===> RichText (rtf))
Or any hints to a program on the market?
--
.. viel Spasz!
> Grisu grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de
\_/ alt.: grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de
Gernot A. Pohl
From: (Horace Lim) hal@xedoc.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Spatial Objects
Date: 19 May 1994 04:10:27 GMT
Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2reorj$1u4@yarrina.connect.com.au>
Keywords: Spatial Objects GIS
Hi all,
I am posting this dumb question for a friend... but I am dumb enough
not to know...
What are Spatial Objects and who's doing them?
What about GIS using NEXTSTEP?
Please respond directly as well as publicly, thanks in advance.
Horace
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ability to start over
Internet : hal@xedoc.com.au (NeXTMail appreciated)
Channels Manager, Xedoc Software Development Pty Ltd
222 Park St, South Melbourne, VIC 3205 AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61 3 696 2490, Facimile: +61 3 696 6757
We give you NetInfo for Sparc,Auspex,HP/UX,RS/6000,Digital OSF/1 &
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From: bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3D-plot
Date: 19 May 1994 06:58:03 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <2rf2lr$1lt@email.tuwien.ac.at>
I need a 3D-plot program, preferably free/shareware, for plotting
3D-surfaces of section of chaotic systems. The program should be able to
import (x,y,z)-triples of coordinates from ascii text files and plot the
poinnts.
Thanks for any hint.
Bernhard
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From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Questions from an Emacs newbie
Date: 19 May 1994 08:09:05 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2rf6r1$1jd@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
First of all, thanks to all involved for the port of Emacs to
NextStep....a wonderful job. I may not be an emacs expert yet, but I'm
trying.
My questions: first, has anyone successfully compiled ispell? I tried
briefly, and was not having much luck. Any tips, or are the results small
enough that someone could next-mail them to me?
second, in installing many elisp packages, I've noticed that texinfo is
required to make all of the documentation. Again, I haven't had much luck
compiling that for the next. Advice?
Thanks to all.
-jamey.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on colorstation sloooowwww
Date: 19 May 1994 10:31:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rff6g$30r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CpyvC7.2Iz@trapac.com>
In article <CpyvC7.2Iz@trapac.com> karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) writes:
> I seem to recall that this was a problem of window depth. Frammaker
> creates a 12 bit color window, and slows down because the window on
> the screen is 2 bit, and the letters need to be converted back and
> forth. The solution is to change any letter or graphic in the
> programs to a color (say red), and then change it back to black. This
> will promote the window to color.
Forgive my ignorance, but how doesn one change the color of text (or
anything else) in FrameMaker for NextStep?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pages
Date: 19 May 1994 10:33:37 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rffa1$313@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2r9ui0$6id@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
In article <2r9ui0$6id@vega.info.isbiel.ch> schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier
Schmid) writes:
> Is there a DEMO-version of Pages I can get with FTP ?
No. Demo available only from the company at a cost of something like $12
or $16 plus shipping.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: AppleTalk
Date: 19 May 1994 10:40:58 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rffnq$31t@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2ree5c$lv9@oak.oakland.edu>
In article <2ree5c$lv9@oak.oakland.edu> pvinson@gryphon.laafb.af.mil
(Patrick Vinson) writes:
> The product is still avail. and reputed to be quite good:
I have the NeXT_AppleTalk.pkg that came with NextStep 3.0 and it is
terribly buggy. It hangs frequently, so frequently that I have had to
quit using it. Is there a newer version out that is bug free?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail and Unix Mail
Date: 19 May 1994 10:42:52 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rffrc$325@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
In article <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Tami Bland) writes:
> Does anyone know how to make my mail in my active mailbox within the
> NeXT Mail applications accessible from straight Unix mail? I often
> need to work from home where I don't have a windows interface to my
> system.
I use elm when I need to access my mail from a terminal window. The
mailbox structure is compatible with NextMail.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep
Date: 19 May 1994 10:46:11 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ca
Message-ID: <2rfg1j$32h@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994May17.175652.214@cs.ucla.edu>
In article <1994May17.175652.214@cs.ucla.edu> sidd@maui.cs.ucla.edu
(Siddhartha Devadhar) writes:
> Could someone please post the company phone, fax, e-mail
> and the latest version number of the OS?
NextStep 3.2 is the latest version of the operating system. It is now
available for NeXT or Intel (486 or pentium) platforms. It will soon (one
or two months) be available for the HP700 series machines. To order, call
NeXT at 800-848-6398. The academic price was $300 a few months ago. I
don't know whether or not the price has changed since then.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on colorstation sloooowwww
Date: 19 May 1994 11:00:54 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rfgt6$nq5@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <CpyvC7.2Iz@trapac.com> <2rff6g$30r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
: Forgive my ignorance, but how doesn one change the color of text (or
: anything else) in FrameMaker for NextStep?
:
It's a bit pathetic really...
Bring up the drawing tools (click on the really intuitive right-angled
triangle icon), and in the bottom-left of the panel you'll see a button
labelled "Black". It's a pop-up menu, which you can use to change the colour
of your selected object to:
White
Red
Green
Blue
Cyan
Magenta, or, if you're feeling really wacky,
Yellow.
Given that Frame had the full power of the colour picker object at their
disposal when they developed this, why-owhy did they dispose of it?
I know, they had to be compatible across platforms...
This is one of the worst aspects of the app.
(Note, by the way, that if you select a pattern, the pattern remains in
black...)
I'm looking forward to future versions of PasteUp which may let me do what
I currently need Frame for... at least AFS support their customers.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX
Date: 19 May 94 12:02:19 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.769348939@batida>
References: <HORNKVJM.94May10153958@merlin.whitman.edu>
hornkvjm@merlin.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) writes:
>I am looking into buying NeXTStep, and I would like to know about the
>availability of a good TeX. I remember having heard that one is
>delivered with the OS; in that case, how good is it? And if it's bad,
>where can I get a better one? (Preferably PD or educational
>discount...;)
It's great.. you're gonna love the previewer. I'm an old time TeX
user and I was very very pleased with what I got for free when I
bought my sweet little black box..
Plus there is an excellent public domain frontend called InstantTeX
which you can get from the archives. IMHO NeXTStep is at the time
the best platform for doing TeX. Hey, you can even preview inlined
postscript images!
Get NeXTStep. (well, probably rather NEXTSTEP I guess ;-)
Chris
--
"I ride a tandem with the random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Re: DataBase Suggestions????
Message-ID: <1994May19.010306.25082@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <ROBERT.94May18111735@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 01:03:06 GMT
In article <ROBERT.94May18111735@steffi.demon.co.uk>
robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
> <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> writes:
> Assuming you already have Sybase right?
That's the ticket. When I saw the less then one week development time I
thought to my self, "no way". Good luck though and if you get things done
in one week, let me know.
--
Sincerely,
Neil Greene
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Programming in Edit ? : Page up/down on a CommandKey
Date: 19 May 1994 12:55:52 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <2rfnko$fl1@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <2r0hpu$h7h@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> <1994May17.061815.11043@proximus.north.de> <2rbr2a$ih6@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Eric P. Scott (eps@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote:
: In article <1994May17.061815.11043@proximus.north.de>
: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
: >Ctrl-V works in "emacs mode". Unfortunately ESC-V does not.
: Use Alternate-V. Emacs' ESC is a meta prefix for 7-bit keyboards
: (i.e. ones that don't have Meta or Edit shifts). Since the
: NEXTSTEP keyboard isn't deficient, Edit doesn't need to implement
: this kludge.
For me (Moto-NeXT and Keyboard 'USA') Alt-v has the same effect as Ctrl-v
(one page down). All in all, IMHO the current implementation of Emacs key
bindings is not the best solution:
Try e.g. keyboard 'Deutsch' in Preferences. As you can see in the keyboard
panel, '<' and '>' are accessible as Alt-4 and Alt-5. On the German
NeXT keyboards you find them as labels below the '4' and '5' keys. In
Edit, the bindings for 'begin of text' and 'end of text' should be
Alt-< and Alt->. How do you do that ?? Alt-(Alt-4) is not possible! But
try Alt-Shift-',' and Alt-Shift-'.' with the 'Deutsch' keyboard setting.
This works, although it's should only work with a 'USA' keyboard.
This means that the Emacs key bindings in Edit are 'hardcoded' with the
keyboard codes, not with the 'keyboard setting'. Even if it's sensible in
this special case (otherwise you won't have access to Alt-< and Alt->),
it's all but obvious for an user with a German keyboard.
It would be better let the user change the key bindings. The default file
could be Emacs-alike. The XText class in the archives tried to achieve
this once ago.
I think there's a little bit work left for NeXT in this area.
Gregor
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: TrueType fonts --> NeXT (How?)
Message-ID: <Cq1vE8.36y@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 12:44:32 GMT
I have a number of TrueType fonts from Windoze I'd like to convert to use on
the NeXT. Is there a utility around somewhere which can do this?
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to make wais-8-b5 on a CUBE with NS 3.2 - help is needed!!!
Date: 19 May 1994 13:31:53 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Message-ID: <2rfpoa$g4o@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
How to make wais-8-b5 on a CUBE with NS 3.2??? Please respond by
email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mosaic on NeXT ???
Date: 19 May 94 12:18:41 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.769349921@batida>
References: <2qvsof$t3m@news.duke.edu> <2r1so2$hiu@digifix.digifix.com>
sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes:
[munch munch]
>Mind you, OmniWeb is an alpha that is being widely used, where as Mosaic is
>in Version 2.
> And OmniWeb supports the mailto: URL now.... I don't think Mosaic does.
> :-)
Yip! Besides, OmniWeb is *cool* (TM).
Keep up the good work! I can't wait for the next version.
(Sorry, I just had to. Mosaic is not the only WWW browser around,
and IM very HO it's not the best one either.)
Chris
--
"I ride a tandem with the random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Programming in Edit ? : Page up/down on a CommandKey
References: <2r0hpu$h7h@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> <1994May17.061815.11043@proximus.north.de> <2rbr2a$ih6@nic-nac.csu.net>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 06:08:17 GMT
Message-ID: <1994May19.060817.18881@proximus.north.de>
In article <2rbr2a$ih6@nic-nac.csu.net>, Eric P. Scott <eps@cs.sfsu.edu> wrote:
>In article <1994May17.061815.11043@proximus.north.de>
> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
>>Ctrl-V works in "emacs mode". Unfortunately ESC-V does not.
>
>Use Alternate-V. Emacs' ESC is a meta prefix for 7-bit keyboards
>(i.e. ones that don't have Meta or Edit shifts). Since the
>NEXTSTEP keyboard isn't deficient, Edit doesn't need to implement
>this kludge.
>
>Edit uses ESC for a different purpose (expansion).
I use the expansion quite heavily, but Alt-V does not work for me.
(Maybe because I use a German keyboard? I haven't checked it out yet.)
Alt-V does the same as Ctrl-V.
Gerhard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: SoftPC and civilization
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 06:12:30 GMT
Message-ID: <1994May19.061230.18978@proximus.north.de>
Hi,
does anyone know if "Civilization" runs under SoftPC (black)?
Gerhard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail and Unix Mail
Message-ID: <Cq1vxp.GM@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 12:56:12 GMT
In article <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu> tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Tami Bland)
writes:
> Does anyone know how to make my mail in my active mailbox within the
> NeXT Mail applications accessible from straight Unix mail? I often
> need to work from home where I don't have a windows interface to my
> system.
Setup Mail retrieval in Mail.app to manual or whatever it is called.
You still get informed as before of new incoming mail,
but the mail stays in the spool file until you explicitly press the Get button in the mail.app.
Until then the mail is accesible from your ordinary terminal (useful for slip connections).
Juergen
---
Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok ) Fax ++49-511-440617
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new generation of soap powder,
== when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Crashes
Message-ID: <Cq1yF6.E8M@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
References: <2qu5th$i7e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 13:49:54 GMT
In article <2qu5th$i7e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes:
|In article <2qtrq4$5cg@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>,
|Vasu Krishnamurthy <vasu@beancounter.commerce.ubc.ca> wrote:
|>During the last few months there has been a steady stream of posts on
|>frequent crashes by NewsGrazer. Since NG wasn't exhibiting this behavior
|>on my machine, I ignored the discussion. However, NG inexplicably caught
|>the disease yesterday, so would some kind soul e-mail me any known fixes?
|>
|>I am running NG version 75 on NeXT hardware with NS 3.2.
|>
|
|I'm running NG 75 on NS 3.0 - and mine crashees when I attempt to catch
|up on newsgroups. <GRR>.
|
My NG (v75) too had this disease, so badly that it was essentially useless
for over 3 months. I believe I have finally determined the cause of the
problem and an inelegant, but workable cure.
Cause: NG chokes on bad headers, i.e., initial lines of a news item which
look like a header line but are not. Several news items which caused NG to
fold up all its windows and disappear had, as the first line of the post a
string of TWO blank-separated words followed by a COLON. (I am reluctant to
include an example, lest this cause problems for others, in case the problem
is not restricted to the first line of the post.)
Cures:
(1) Turn off 'Prefetch article titles' in Info/Preferences. This will make
it less pleasant to read news, as the articles list will simply list articles
by number.
(2) Click Catch Up to mark all articles as read. The offending article
should not reoffend.
A less drastic measure: With Prefetch off, click each article in turn to
mark it as read. Periodically use Tools/Record read articles (cmd-!) to
update your .newsrc file before you hit the bad 'un. You'll have to do this
several times, 'cause NG will fold instantly on reading the bad 'un.
Alternatively, use another newsreader (tin/trn) to catch up past the bad
item, making sure articles are marked as read (ctrl-K in tin).
The above applies to an NNTP news feed. If you have news directly on your
machine, this may or may not apply, but it might be possible to write a
script to filter out bad news items.
Hope this helps.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Crashes
Date: 19 May 1994 11:07:01 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices)
Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rfval$900@shiva.UU.NET>
References: <2qu5th$i7e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <Cq1yF6.E8M@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
I am seeing a simliar problem with NewsGrazer barfing out in the middle of
something. BUT, mine occurs when I try to post...
Example...
I read my favorite news group and decide to participate. I whip up my
message tell NG to post it, at which point, the program aborts.
Any suggestions?
---
Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net
Technical Support dokk@ita.org
"I did not say this. I am not here..."
--- Third Stage Guild Navigator
_Dune_
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC and civilization
Date: 19 May 1994 15:35:32 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2rg104$93k@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1994May19.061230.18978@proximus.north.de>
gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
>Hi,
>does anyone know if "Civilization" runs under SoftPC (black)?
Yes it does. Take my experience, however, with a grain of salt. I loaded
"Civilization" into the SoftPC demo and it took most of the 20 minutes allowed.
When I tried playing it on my NeXTdimension, it was so ssslllooowww that I
coulnd't get past the animated intro to build a world! Presumably on a faster
system with a licensed copy, one could get past this difficulty. I wish that
company had just gone ahead and released its NS "Cultural Evolution" game!
I love "Civilization" and would like to play it again in some incarnation.
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others
"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3D-plot
Date: 19 May 1994 15:39:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2rg189$9d4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2rf2lr$1lt@email.tuwien.ac.at>
bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr) writes:
>I need a 3D-plot program, preferably free/shareware, for plotting
>3D-surfaces of section of chaotic systems. The program should be able to
>import (x,y,z)-triples of coordinates from ascii text files and plot the
>poinnts.
>Thanks for any hint.
ftp Steve Ludke's NXplot3d from the University of Houston (e-mail him at
steve@ion.rice.edu) Amazing app; it plots 3D functions and yields RenderMan
output!
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others
"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (Armin Retzko)
Subject: MouseX problem - How to use a german keyboard?
Message-ID: <armin.769362547@master>
Summary: How to use a german keyboard with MouseX?
Keywords: MouseX
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 15:49:07 GMT
have a problem with X11R5 (MouseX)
I have here a NeXTcube with a NeXTdimension board running NeXTstep 3.0.
I've installed X11R5 (MouseX) and it's working fine.
The problem is that X11 is using a US keymapping and i have a german keyboard.
I tried to work around this by changing the kemapping with xmodmap, but it sucks, because i can't get X to show a "german double s" (in X called "ssharp").
Can somebody help me out?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Armin Retzko
Schumannstr.5
30823 Garbsen
Germany
e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de
--------------------------------------------------------------
--
Armin Retzko e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail and Unix Mail
Date: 19 May 1994 16:31:40 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <2rg49c$170@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
In article <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Tami Bland) writes:
> Does anyone know how to make my mail in my active mailbox within the
> NeXT Mail applications accessible from straight Unix mail? I often
> need to work from home where I don't have a windows interface to my
> system.
>
> Tami Bland
> tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu
I use PINE, available from ftp.cac.washington.edu. There's a version
compiled for NEXTSTEP, althought I think it's only for black hardware.
It's a robust, character-based, full-screen mailer, and it's free. It
also does MIME, and can be run over IMAP.
PINE looks for new messages in your /usr/spool/mail/username directory,
and can be configured to save read messages in NextMail's Active.mbox/mbox
file for later use. It can also be configured to save outgoing messages
in Outgoing.mbox/mbox, if you want that functionality.
PINE is also a news reader, albiet that's not as fully developed as it's
email personality. Nonetheless, it works well enough that I can keep up
with news from a remote site (my laptop & modem).
There's even documentation!
The only thing I haven't worked out it a way to share address books
between NextMail and PINE.
IMHO, this is a very nice solution.
bb
--
Bill Barker
Biological Structure, SM-20
University of Washington
Seattle WA 98195
(206) 543-7315
"In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is
Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP CASE tools
Date: 19 May 1994 11:49:29 -0500
Organization: Proxima, Inc.
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9405191649.AA06756@proxima.com>
I remember vaguely seeing some CASE tools at a few recent NeXT expo's,
but don't recall the vendors. Anyone care to speak up and point me in
the right direction?
-Eric Litman
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WIRED on Tailor
Date: 19 May 1994 17:11:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94May19101106@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Cq0qAG.5vH@ucdavis.edu>
In-reply-to: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu's message of Wed, 18 May 1994 21:56:39 GMT
In article <Cq0qAG.5vH@ucdavis.edu> heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) writes:
>
> Since I haven't seen this information posted, I thought I would post it.
>
> In the June issue of WIRED on page 116, the following blurb appeared:
>
> PostScript Surgery
> In these days of multiplatform democracy, when
> you can buy QuarkXPress for both Mac and Win-
> dows and Adobe Photoshop for the SGI Indy, there is
> still the occasional single-platform application that
> is so useful it justifies buying a new computer. Graph-
> ic artists and service bureaus might find this to be
> the case with Tailor, a PostScript editing system
> developed in Belgium by First Class NV.
> ...
> ...Tailor is so
> useful that, for some people, its worth plunking
> down the US$795 you need to purchase NEXTSTEP
> so you can run Tailor on your 486 PC.
> - Simson L. Garfinkel
>
> Nice promo by Simson, huh?
>
> Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
And he is right! Tailor is great, and is indeed one of those
applications that demonstrate "the power of NS". I just wish there
were more...
Speaking of such apps -- is there anything for Mac that comes
close to Diagram? I am looking for a program that enables you to
create a professional-looking diagram for a slide in less than 5
minutes without reading the manual...
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: CryptorBundle FAQ
Message-ID: <1994May18.124110.2744@gamelan.sh.sub.de>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 12:41:10 GMT
Thanks for all the enthusiastic mails regarding CryptorBundle.
I'm going to answer some of the most frequently asked questions:
Q: Where can I find CryptorBundle ?
A: The thing is moving around quickly. You should find it at
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/CryptorBundle.1.0.NI.b.tar.gz
It's also on ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de somewhere.
Q: Are you going to release the sources ?
A: Well, the bundle started as a quick rainy-sunday-afternoon-hack and it
doesn't look very good. Sorry !
Q: Are there any new dwrites regarding mail encryption ?
A: YES. You should add a
dwrite Mail Encrypt NO
on the command line to prevent automatic mail encryption.
Q: Why don't you use a newer version of PGP ?
A: On that rainy sunday afternoon I found only PGP2.2. I was told PGP2.3a
works fine, while PGP2.5 needs some patches. All versions seem to be
compatible, so no problem if somone sends you an encrypted text with a
different PGP version.
Q: If I have the PGP binary installed at a non standard place (but still
in my PATH), the bundle does not work.
A: Yes, there is a bug in the file 'userlist' in the bundle. You have to
replace 'pgp' with '/NextApps/Mail.app/cryptor.bundle/pgp'. You should
correct this, even if it's no problem to most people.
Q: I have a keyfile with 3000 keys and CryptorBundle keeps
crashing.
A: Well, CryptorBundle is programmed in the standard unix fashion.
That means, we all know that lines in text files are never longer
than 80 chars and keylists are never longer than 1000 keys :-)
To be serious: At the moment you cannot have more than 1000 keys.
I'll correct this in the next version.
Q: What are the legal issues about PGP ?
A: There are two problems. First, there are patent restrictions for all
versions of PGP less than 2.5. Second, it's still not legal in the USA
to export ANY version of PGP.
Q: What improvements will you add to the next version of
CryptorBundle ?
A: Probably I'll upgrade to PGP2.5 and fix some bugs. Some people
have asked for more features. Unfortunately, this is difficult to
realize because I have to rely on NeXT's interface to mail encryption.
If I had done everything on my own, it would look better :-)
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de
Brooks's Law:
Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later
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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: What flavor Supras work with Dfax?
Message-ID: <espritCq2H4K.4Kt@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 20:33:56 GMT
Like the subject line says, I was wondering which SupraFAX modems work with
DFax? The documentation just says SupraFAX, but I don't know if this applies
to the newer, cheaper SupraFAX modems like the LC.
--
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds
alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and
esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Are these guys still in business?
Message-ID: <espritCq2HDM.5D8@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 20:39:21 GMT
I recently got a copy of Appsoft Image and Diagram! from the NeXT auction
at Bowling Green State University. Are the companies that made these
packages (Appsoft and Lighthouse Design) still in business?
Also, does anyone know where I can get a proper printed manual for
Diagram! since no manual came with what I got from Bowling Green.
--
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds
alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and
esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: is there any good graphics software?
Date: 19 May 1994 16:30:09 -0600
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation
Message-ID: <2rgp9h$kf1@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
References: <Cq0Jwx.5r8@umassd.edu>
Keywords: graphics softare
In article <Cq0Jwx.5r8@umassd.edu>,
Makoto Sadahiro <makto@cis.umassd.edu> wrote:
> hello. i am wondering if there is any good photo editing or painting
>software like photoshop on macintosh. i am thinking getting next for graphics
>work if trere are good software. also, what is graphics display capability
>on next? can it display 24 bit? i knwo this is silly question, but i dont
>know a lot about next. if next is good machine for graphics, i really like to
>get one since this was dream machine when i was smaller...thank you
> makto@cis.umassd.edu
For pixel level editing, get WetPaint from Lighthouse Design.
(1-800-366-2279).
For photo editing, get TIFFany II from benchMark Developments, Inc.
(1-800-872-3131).
Both are excellent apps. Highly recommended. For a true 24-bit display
you'll need some massive HW and RAM for NEXTSTEP for Intel. However, both
apps are able to operate on 24-bit images and display to 12-bit color.
If you are careful, you can achieve good results when working on a
12-bit display.
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Message-ID: <Cq28AG.L3@nexusadmin.com>
Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Nexus Administration
References: <2rcl4k$eoo@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 17:23:04 GMT
Markus Wenzel writes
!> erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) writes:
!>
!> >uhh... no. We put out that warning for a reason. If you use DOS
!> >partitions larger than 32MB, there's a very good chance that you will
!> >experience serious data corruption. If all you are doing is reading data,
!> >and you're only reading that data off of the front of the disk (how you
!> >would know that the data is off of the front of the disk is beyond me),
!> >then chances are, you won't get burned. But if you write to the
!> >partition, or you need to know that the data you read off of the disk is
!> >accurate, you will be screwed if you use DOS partitions larger than 32 MB.
!> >This is why we put out the NeXTanswer. The NeXTanswer is not wrong.
!>
!> My NeXTanswers document says something about _64_ MB maximum DOS partition
!> size! What the heck is right?
!>
Would the real NeXTanswer please stand up!
The answer is: NeXT changed that particular document (#1481) sometime after it
was first put out. I have both copies and the only thing that changed was the
size: from 64MB to 32MB! Even their version number in the document stayed the
same "version 3NA". You gotta get the index document 1001 periodically (I get
it about once a month) and check the dates to see what has changed!
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
From: bbthomps@access.digex.net (Bryan Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with SoftPC and Diamond Viper
Date: 19 May 1994 20:28:41 -0400
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Message-ID: <2rh07p$71e@access3.digex.net>
References: <2raq24$2u7@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
In article <2raq24$2u7@hamblin.math.byu.edu>,
Sean O. Luke <sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> wrote:
>I own a Diamond Viper graphics card. The instructions for NeXT's driver say
>SoftPC won't run on it in full-screen mode.
>
>Unfortunately, SoftPC apparently _starts_ in full-screen mode. I get the
>following message:
>
>Error
>This session of SoftPC will not support full screen graphics
> Quit Continue
>
>If I press "Quit" the application quits. If I press "Continue"...the
>application quits!
>
>AIRGH. Anyone? How do you tell SoftPC to start up in non-full-screen mode
>by default?
>
>+---------------------------------------------------------+
>| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
>| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, |
>| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) UCLA CS in September |
>+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------+
Well, let me complicate things a bit here. I have a DECpc XL 560 running a
Diamond Viper PCI card. In the first few days I brought up SoftPC a few
times without a hitch *and* I was able to switch into the full screen mode --
no problems there. However, I did have problems reading the FSA mounted DOS
file system (I believe sector read errors would result once I got off of the
root directory). I am running the DEC 1GB SCSI hard drive and using the
TALUS drivers for the on board SCSI controller (NCR built).
I pretty much left SoftPC alone for about a week and now, going back to find
out what my problem with disk access was, I get the *same* message that Sean
has outlined (i.e. SoftPC will not run in full screen mode), and with the
same aggrevating behavior. It doesn't even leave a message on the console
(sigh).
If anyone has any answers here, that would be great. Otherwise, does anyone
have a name / number at Insignia?
Thanks,
Bryan Thompson
Cognitive Technologies, Inc.
bbthomps@digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Subject: Help on News Grazer
Message-ID: <Cq1L7x.CM@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:04:45 GMT
Hi everyone,
I'm just using News Grazer for the very first time and I'd like someone to
answer me so I can know that this thing is working.
Thanks a lot
Jacques GARBI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Subject: Help on News Grazer
Message-ID: <Cq1LFK.Dx@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:09:20 GMT
I don't know if I configured this thing right.
Can someone help me ?
Thanks
Jacques GARBI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: TipTop Dies Instantly (1.0)
Message-ID: <schwettCq2uo2.Lon@netcom.com>
Keywords: TipTop
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 01:26:25 GMT
I just got my copy of TipTop in the mail, and I'd love to start using it...
but...
Just a few seconds after I load it the program exits. There is no sign that
it was running anywhere.
Any ideas?
System is Pentium/90, PCI Viper, 32mb RAM, 1542CF, and so on.
Thanks All!
Mark
Schwettmann
From: brahm@alembic.com (Lans Brahmantyo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Changing Font Size Menu??
Date: 19 May 1994 21:22:12 -0500
Organization: Q.Ad - A NEXTSTEP-based Advertising Agency
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199405200114.AA00723@alembic.com>
Hello,
Anybody has any idea how to modify NEXTSTEP's Font Size menu so it does not
only display 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 16, 18, 24, 36, 48 and 64?
I would like to be able to put 20, 28, 33 in there as well.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
...... brahm
Q.Ad, Q.Type
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Is it possible to turn off menu update in Emacs-4.0
In-Reply-To: chin@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu's message of 18 May 1994 13:20:01 GMT
To: chin@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu (Chin Wu)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May18132705@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CHIN.94May18092001@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 17:27:02 GMT
In article <CHIN.94May18092001@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu> chin@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu (Chin Wu) writes:
Menu is wonderful in a sense you can find what you want to do without
memorizing all those commands. But it is so slow to swith from one
buffer to another buffer which I happened to do it a lot. Can this be
turned off?
Yes, it is annoying, isn't it ? Unfortunately currently there is no
way to disable it except to kill the local binding of menu-bar
i.e. (local-set-key [menu-bar] 'undefined). Fortunately, this problem
has gone away in the version of Emacs for NS currently running here --
creating and destroying menus is an order of magnitude faster. You
and the other people on the beta tester list can look for patches to
release4.01 in a few weeks.
Carl Edman
PS: Guaranteed worlds first post from a GNUS running under Emacs for
NS based on GNU Emacs 19.23. :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Questions from an Emacs newbie
In-Reply-To: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU's message of 19 May 1994 08:09:05 GMT
To: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May19140058@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2rf6r1$1jd@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 18:00:58 GMT
In article <2rf6r1$1jd@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) writes:
First of all, thanks to all involved for the port of Emacs to
NextStep....a wonderful job. I may not be an emacs expert yet, but I'm
trying.
Thanks !
My questions: first, has anyone successfully compiled ispell? I tried
briefly, and was not having much luck. Any tips, or are the results small
enough that someone could next-mail them to me?
Yes, both GNU ispell and the international ispell (superior, IMHO and
correctly supported starting with GNU Emacs 19.23) have been compiled
here without major problems. If you have more specific questions,
feel free to email.
second, in installing many elisp packages, I've noticed that texinfo is
required to make all of the documentation. Again, I haven't had much luck
compiling that for the next. Advice?
Emacs for NS (in contrast to standard GNU Emacs) comes with makeinfo.
Just use 'makeinfo foo.texi' and you'll have a set of info pages
generated. Move them somewhere emacs will find them such as
/usr/local/info (not /LocalApps/Emacs.app/info as they'd get erased
there when you installed Emacs for NS 4.1). If you are short on disk
space, gzip the info files. Emacs will automatically uncompress them
as needed.
If you want to make the printable manuals, you'll need the Emacs for
NS source package. Go into the emacs-19/man directory and 'make dvi'.
Carl Edman
From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Version control for NeXT
Date: 20 May 1994 08:36:49 GMT
Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rhsr1$r4e@yarrina.connect.com.au>
References: <2rebit$piq@mailhost.interaccess.com>
In article <2rebit$piq@mailhost.interaccess.com> dzuzga@interaccess (David E.
Zuzga) writes:
> Does anyone know of a good version control system for NeXTSTEP?
> I was thinking of using CVS and RCS from GNU, but if there is one
> written specifically for NeXT, I would like to know.
>
Have a look at DevMan from VNP Software (info@vnp.com ??) It's a nice front end
to rcs and handles Nib files, etc which are diffcult with plain rcs.
Cameron
---
----------------------------------------------------------------
Cameron Bromley cdb@xedoc.com.au
Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax +61-3-696-6757
222 Park St., Phone +61-3-696-2490
South Melbourne VIC, 3206
Australia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: snl@CS.CMU.EDU (Sean Levy)
Subject: NewsGrazer problem solved: thanks
Message-ID: <Cq3s9x.CJz.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Originator: snl@paneer.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: n-dim Group, Engineering Design Research Center, CMU
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 13:32:21 GMT
Someone pointed out to me that I needed to turn off the check-new-news
feature by setting one of the preferences in Configuration (I *think*
that's what it was -- am at work in front of an Alpha and not at home
in front of a NeXT, so not totally sure). In fact, I had pushed the
little slider over to what I *thought* was the far right, and the
value it had written to the right of the slider said "59"; after being
told I could turn it OFF, I tried pushing the slider just a bit more,
and, sure enough, it went from "59" to "OFF". Sometimes, GUIs are...
:-)
Thanks,
-- Sean
--
prototype (n) -
Sean Levy, n-dim Group, EDRC, CMU | +1 412 268- | something you intend to
snl+@CMU.EDU (MIME,ATK) | 5222(vox) | throw away, but somehow
snl@DAMRAK.SLIP.CS.CMU.EDU (NeXT) | 5229(fax) | never do.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: snl@CS.CMU.EDU (Sean Levy)
Subject: Writing DB Adaptors: Ref?
Message-ID: <Cq3sC7.CLp.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Originator: snl@paneer.ndim.edrc.cmu.edu
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: n-dim Group, Engineering Design Research Center, CMU
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 13:33:42 GMT
I'm interested in possibly writing an adaptor for the DBKit to talk to
postgres. Are there any good books/tutorial docs on this? Example
code would be nice as well.
TIA,
-- Sean
--
prototype (n) -
Sean Levy, n-dim Group, EDRC, CMU | +1 412 268- | something you intend to
snl+@CMU.EDU (MIME,ATK) | 5222(vox) | throw away, but somehow
snl@DAMRAK.SLIP.CS.CMU.EDU (NeXT) | 5229(fax) | never do.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: konmh@cm4.ericsson.se (Mike Henry)
Subject: Re: DBKit adapter for free db ?
Message-ID: <konmh.769444151@cm4>
Sender: news@ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson
References: <2rall4$1h9@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 14:29:11 GMT
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
>Some time ago, someone published a shareware adapter for gdbm. Since
>there were problems with the GPL, he retired this project and decided to
>go for another free database (I don't remember which it was).
>Does anybody know what happened to this project ? I'd really like to play
>around with the DBKit.
Yes, I wrote gdbmAdaptor last fall. Since I couldn't distribute the DBKit
Adaptor source I was breaking the GPL, and had to withdraw the Adaptor.
In the mean time I have been working on a replacement: dbmAdaptor, which
uses standard UNIX ndbm at the lower levels, unbound by such restrictions.
dbmAdaptor v0.3 will be freely distributable under a ShareWare license.
There has been some platform dependency problems with sharing databases
between different hardware platforms. They have been ironed out now and
what is left is making relationships work properly. Lots of functionality
has been added and all types can be stored in the database: yes, even
Objects!
Please direct all questions concerning dbmAdaptor to:
mike@stacken.kth.se
Release date for dbmAdaptor v0.3 is RSN. Check comp.sys.next.announce for
details.
> Gregor
-Mike
Mike Henry INET : mike@enea.se ///
Enea Object Technology ///
Box 232, Nytorpsv. 5B Tel : +46 8 638-5000 \\\///
S-183 23 Taby, SWEDEN Fax : +46 8 638-5050 \XX/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shayman@Trimark.com (Steve Hayman)
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail and Unix Mail
Message-ID: <1994May20.155117.11042@trimark.com>
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
References: <Cq0wBr.7vK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 15:51:17 GMT
In article <Cq0wBr.7vK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will
Fischer) writes:
> When I ftp a mail file from a Sun mailserver, and install it as
> ~/Mailboxes/foo.mbox/mbox, it works great, BUT NeXTMail isn't
> decoded (i.e. it still shows up as uuencoded, tar files). ...
> How do I get Mail.app to recognize NeXTMail as such?
Mail.app decodes the uuencoded attachments as part of the process
of copying mail from /usr/spool/mail/username to ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox.
(There's a program called MailFetch inside the Mail.app directory
that does this.)
So one way you could get your ftp'd mail to be decoded properly is to
ftp it from the remote machine directly to /usr/spool/mail/username,
and let Mail.app pick it up from there.
I am not sure about the various issues related to locking the
/usr/spool/mail/username file (to prevent the sendmail process
from writing other incoming mail there while your ftp is going on.) If it's
a machine that you don't normally receive mail on, it's probably not
a big deal. If it is, though, you might like to ftp your mail to,
say, /tmp/username, and go to Mail.app's preferences and set
"Spool Dir:" to "/tmp" instead of "/usr/spool/mail".
I haven't tried this but you might also be able to run
Mail.app/MailFetch directly. It wants a spool directory
and a user name, so I suppose that saving the mail in
/tmp/username and then doing
% /NextApps/Mail.app/MailFetch /tmp username
might work. Worth a try.
Hope this helps.
Steve
--
Steve Hayman
Steve Hayman + Associates NeXTSTEP Consulting Toronto, Ontario
shayman@Objectario.com (416) 769-8995
From: douglas@ewl.uky.edu (John D. Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: is there any good graphics software?
Date: 20 May 1994 16:13:28 GMT
Organization: Engineering Workstation Lab
Message-ID: <2rinj8$37s@convex.cc.uky.edu>
References: <Cq0Jwx.5r8@umassd.edu>
Makoto Sadahiro (makto@cis.umassd.edu) wrote:
> hello. i am wondering if there is any good photo editing or painting
> software like photoshop on macintosh. i am thinking getting next for graphics
> work if trere are good software. also, what is graphics display capability
> on next? can it display 24 bit? i knwo this is silly question, but i dont
> know a lot about next. if next is good machine for graphics, i really like to
> get one since this was dream machine when i was smaller...thank you
> makto@cis.umassd.edu
Try TIFFany2 from benchMark Developments.
I think you can email to Info@bMD.com
--
John D. Turner | System Administrator | douglas@ewl.uky.edu | 3234531
From: pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com (Ronald Pepper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Swarm for old BackSpace???
Date: 20 May 1994 17:03:46 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Corporation
Message-ID: <2riqhi$9u6@uudell.us.dell.com>
Does someone have this for the new version of Backspace on a intel
based next?
I got the file, but it says to put the .o and prefs file in the
object directory for backspace?
Can anyone help me?
Thanks in advance,
Ron.
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: What flavor Supras work with Dfax?
Message-ID: <Cq356D.1wn@nexusadmin.com>
Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Nexus Administration
References: <espritCq2H4K.4Kt@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 05:13:24 GMT
Alan F. Perry writes
!>
!> Like the subject line says, I was wondering which SupraFAX modems work with
!> DFax? The documentation just says SupraFAX, but I don't know if this
applies
!> to the newer, cheaper SupraFAX modems like the LC.
!>
No, only the SupraFAXmodem V.32bis Part Number 50-14FX.
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
From: hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov (John B. Hampshire II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: screen lock
Date: 20 May 1994 18:00:15 GMT
Organization: JPL Spacecraft Telecommunication Equipment
Message-ID: <2ritrf$qt0@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
Is there a screen locking app for NS (i.e., I want
to go to lunch and leave my workstation secure without
having to logout).
Thanks, -John
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle FAQ
Message-ID: <1994May20.184356.1548@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <1994May18.124110.2744@gamelan.sh.sub.de>
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 18:43:56 GMT
Thomas Funke writes
> Q: Are you going to release the sources ?
>
> A: Well, the bundle started as a quick rainy-sunday-afternoon-hack and it
> doesn't look very good. Sorry !
What about the GNU license then? Anyway, we don't care that it is a hack. At
least I don't.
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: is there any good graphics software?
Date: 20 May 1994 19:14:09 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2rj262$1kt@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <Cq0Jwx.5r8@umassd.edu> <2rinj8$37s@convex.cc.uky.edu>
John D. Turner (douglas@ewl.uky.edu) wrote:
: Try TIFFany2 from benchMark Developments.
: I think you can email to Info@bMD.com
:
A demo version has just been announced:
Demo versions of Caffeine Software's TIFFany II, image enhancement
application for NEXTSTEP, may be found in the submission directories
on cs.orst.edu, sonata.cc.purdue.edu and in /pub/next/tiffany at
f.ms.uky.edu. These packages are available in MAB format and include
multi-user floating license support for installation on network
servers.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 20 May 94 19:53:00 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.769463580@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <2rcl4k$eoo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <Cq28AG.L3@nexusadmin.com>
Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney) writes:
>Would the real NeXTanswer please stand up!
>The answer is: NeXT changed that particular document (#1481) sometime after it
>was first put out. I have both copies and the only thing that changed was the
>size: from 64MB to 32MB! Even their version number in the document stayed the
>same "version 3NA". You gotta get the index document 1001 periodically (I get
>it about once a month) and check the dates to see what has changed!
Oh God. Guess when someone will find out that it only works with DOS
partitions of 3.2 MB size...
I hate these nasty and IMHO really unnecessary "features" of NeXTSTEP.
It should not be impossible to handle a dumb filesystem like DOS correctly.
Markus.
--
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: on
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: shareware
Date: 20 May 1994 21:47:21 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2rjb59$ij5@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I am a college student with a NeXTstation. I don't use my computer for
much of anything except netnews and writing. I was wondering if anyone
could direct me to any interesting shareware, games and otherwise. I have
browsed some ftp sites but haven't found much of interest.
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: screen lock
Message-ID: <1994May20.222115.11972@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2ritrf$qt0@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 22:21:15 GMT
In article <2ritrf$qt0@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov (John B. Hampshire II) writes:
> Is there a screen locking app for NS (i.e., I want
> to go to lunch and leave my workstation secure without
> having to logout).
Backspace is free, and should be on your machine. I know a lot of people
who prefer to use MetroTools, which isn't very expensive. There used to
be a couple of other commercial screensavers/lockers.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 20 May 1994 23:29:25 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2rjh4l$lm@rosie.next.com>
References: <2rcl4k$eoo@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
In article <2rcl4k$eoo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
(Markus Wenzel) writes:
>My NeXTanswers document says something about _64_ MB maximum DOS
>partition size! What the heck is right?
Please remember that NeXTanswers are changing and being updated all of the
time. When we discover new information that contradicts or enhances the
information in a NeXTanswer, we change it to reflect the new information.
In this case, after we originally published this NeXTanswer, I discovered
some edge cases which would cause the corruption to happen in disks larger
than 32MB. Truthfully, it is much harder to do, but it is possible.
Rather than trying to explain the edge cases, we thought it was much safer
(and easier) to simply warn users that it could occur if your partition is
larger than 32MB.
If you download NeXTanswers and refer to local copies, I'd recommend at
least checking Urgent_Tech_Support and Security on a regular basis, it
never hurts to check more often than necessary. (however, in this case,
your copy of the NeXTanswer must be *very* old. The copy I'm looking at
is dated Feb 15, and it refers to 32MB, not 64.
Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer "infinite spin mode" at random...
Message-ID: <1994May21.010555.2323@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <CpxHJx.Dq4.3@cs.cmu.edu> <1994May18.200620.5817@nidat.sub.org>
Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 01:05:55 GMT
Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote:
: In article <CpxHJx.Dq4.3@cs.cmu.edu> snl@damrak.slip.cs.cmu.edu (Sean
: Levy) writes:
: > Config: '040 cube, NS3.1, 16MB, TransSys DialupIP, MultiTech 14.4,
: > NewsGrazer Release 2.0, Version 72.3
: > Oneliner: Can I tell NewsGrazer that I'm using a slow link?
: You just have a pathetically slow link! I consider it a poor choice to
: read news interactively over slow IP links. If you want speed (and can
There is a NewsGrazer option that is called something like "how often
to get the active file" or "newsgroups file" or some such. Set it to
zero (I think) to have an infinite time-out to those annoying infinitely
spinning disks. Once you find the preferences option, you'll know
what to do... (Also try a test post and see if it crashes instantly
without posting anything. Mine does; this post generated with "tin"
rather than NewsGrazer.)
A slow link is better than no link.
Brian Hess
Active Ingredients, Inc.
bnh@active.com
From: Randy Antler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle FAQ
Date: 21 May 1994 02:18:18 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2rjr1a$8c9@news.cerf.net>
References: <1994May20.184356.1548@rna.nl>
In article <1994May20.184356.1548@rna.nl> gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
writes:
|Thomas Funke writes
|> Q: Are you going to release the sources ?
|>
|> A: Well, the bundle started as a quick rainy-sunday-afternoon-hack and
it
|> doesn't look very good. Sorry !
|
|What about the GNU license then? Anyway, we don't care that it is a hack.
At
|least I don't.
|
|--
|gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
|"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
|Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Me too! Everything I write is an afternoon hack!
--
randy@pilot.com (home address) NeXTMAIL
randy@nacm.com (work address) Welcome!
From: jpd@space.mit.edu (John Doty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Mail and Unix Mail
Date: 21 May 1994 03:15:13 GMT
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Message-ID: <2rjuc1$kkj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Originator: jpd@benz
In article <1994May18.184003.8948@martha.utcc.utk.edu> tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu writes:
>Does anyone know how to make my mail in my active mailbox within the
>NeXT Mail applications accessible from straight Unix mail? I often
>need to work from home where I don't have a windows interface to my
>system.
What I do is to make a soft link named mbox (which is what the
regular BSD mail program wants its equivalent of Active.mbox to be
called) in my home directory:
ln -s Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox ~/mbox
This causes "mail" to automatically record the mail you've read in
Active.mbox.
I also have the NeXT mail app record outgoing mail in a mailbox
called "Outgoing". You can get BSD mail to do the same by putting
the following line in your .mailrc file:
set record=~/Mailboxes/Outgoing.mbox/mbox
You will either want to disable automatic mail retrieval in the
NeXT mail app or quit out of it when you're not there at your NeXT:
accessing mail from both directions at once can confuse things. On
the other hand, the NeXT mail app is bright enough to notice at
launch that mbox has been updated without its index being updated,
so it will rebuild the index.
Although there are other things in a ".mbox" directory, the "mbox"
files themselves are compatable. You can do things like:
mail -f Mailboxes/Outgoing.mbox/mbox
without trouble, as long as the mailbox in question isn't open
under NeXT mail.
--
John Doty "You can't confuse me, that's my job."
jpd@space.mit.edu
From: jbm@aiinet.com (John Milton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 21 May 1994 07:38:06 GMT
Organization: Applied Innovation, Inc.
Message-ID: <2rkdou$kkt@aisun.aiinet.com>
References: <2qpvor$4t6@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
In article <2qpvor$4t6@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> ti@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de
(Matthias Kloas) writes:
..
> Is it somehow possible to get this guide without buying the package?
> I am curious what changes will habe to be applied to existing software to
> migrate from NeXTstep to OpenStep.
..
I was at the Solaris DevCon in San Francisco. Steve said that the guide would
be available on the net, I have not been able to track it down. What is in
the box is an early draft. There is supposed to be a final version in June,
probably for the Expo.
John
--
John Bly Milton IV jbm@aiinet.com (614) h:252-8544, w:798-8301
NeXTmail OK AMPR:N8KSN[44.70.0.52] Don't FLAME, inform!
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: screen lock
Date: 21 May 1994 08:10:24 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May21091024@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2ritrf$qt0@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov> <1994May20.222115.11972@seer.demon.co.uk>
To: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
In-reply-to: paul@seer.demon.co.uk's message of Fri, 20 May 1994 22:21:15 GMT
<paul@seer.demon.co.uk> writes:
>In article <2ritrf$qt0@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
>hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov (John B. Hampshire II) writes:
>>Is there a screen locking app for NS (i.e., I want
>>to go to lunch and leave my workstation secure without
>>having to logout).
>Backspace is free, and should be on your machine. I know a lot of people
>who prefer to use MetroTools, which isn't very expensive. There used to
>be a couple of other commercial screensavers/lockers.
Not sure if it's demo status yet but BS has always been in
/NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit
compile it and install it.
If you're luck it's already located in /NextDeveloper/Demos for you.
Good luck.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
Control: cancel <1994May21.010555.2323@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Subject: cancel <1994May21.010555.2323@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Message-ID: <1994May21.013602.2809@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 01:36:02 GMT
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!!
Message-ID: <1994May19.101143.4374@gamelan.sh.sub.de>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <2r73ei$sal@wea.eel.ufl.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 10:11:43 GMT
Yes. The famous NeXTBug (tm) of ever growing swapfiles is not seen as
serious by NeXT despite millions of bug reports. It seems that their
position is "buy bigger disks and more memory".
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de
Brooks's Law:
Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later
------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jzinn@michele.math.tamu.edu (Joel Zinn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem - defaults in Emacs for NS
Date: 21 May 1994 16:32:30 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu>
Keywords: font
Hi,
I have just started using Emacs for NS (I have NS 3.0) and am encountering
a few problems.
I can't seem to change the default font/fontsize. Do I have to use
dwrite to do this? I can't seem to use ns-change-font or many of
the other ns commands. If I just use the font panel, the next time I
call up Emacs there is no change in the font or fontsize.
(Please reply to jzinn@plevy.tamu.edu.)
Thanks,
Joel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Where did enTar.app happen to wind up?
Message-ID: <1994May21.092437.8819@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 09:24:37 GMT
These days I decided to hit the Order-button in Juan Pineda's enTar cause
I dig the way it handles my HP-DAT. But the e-mail it generated bounced
and I didn't find any other way to contact IMPACT software publishing or
Juan Pineda for to ask about this.
Can anybody give me a hint, please?
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDPlayer.app error question..
Date: 22 May 1994 02:12:39 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Message-ID: <2rmf2n$9fu@eps.rain.com>
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
Reply-To: steve@eps.rain.com
Distribution: world
I'm am receiving the following error message in my console when I try to
use CDPlayer.app
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 6
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
Any ideas???
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Problem - defaults in Emacs for NS
In-Reply-To: jzinn@michele.math.tamu.edu's message of 21 May 1994 16:32:30 GMT
To: jzinn@plevy.tamu.edu
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May21134517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu>
Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 17:45:16 GMT
In article <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu> jzinn@michele.math.tamu.edu (Joel Zinn) writes:
I can't seem to change the default font/fontsize. Do I have to use
dwrite to do this? I can't seem to use ns-change-font or many of
the other ns commands. If I just use the font panel, the next time I
call up Emacs there is no change in the font or fontsize.
I'm sorry to say in Emacs 4.0, if you want to make the changes stick
you either have to use the dwrites or add the corresponding lines to
your ~/.emacs. Happily, there is a save preferences command (and menu
item) in 4.01 (to be released to beta testers any week now) which does
the dwrites automatically.
Carl Edman
From: warejd@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Flowchart software
Message-ID: <1994May22.005044.7562@ucbeh>
Date: 22 May 94 00:50:44 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Can someone tell me where I can find something like flowchart express or any
software that makes flowcharts and structure charts.
Thanks in advance
Jeff
|-----------------------------|-------------------------|
|"All of life's riddles |"It's a marvelous night |
|are answered in the movies" | for a Moondance" |
|Steve Martin, GRAND CANYON |Van Morrison |
|-----------------------------|-------------------------|
X-Wing---DOOM---Darklands---Rise of the Dragon---Tie-Fighter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: text converter
Message-ID: <Cq6zq2.8HC@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <1994May18.180310.1439@utata.wy.in-berlin.de>
Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 07:06:01 GMT
Gernot A. Pohl (gap) wrote:
: Does exist any free available & some intelligent text converter to get
: some lovely DOS texts (with placed graphics) into NeXT?
: (i.e. WinWord
: Word
: ....
: & whatever ===> RichText (rtf))
Word for Windows (any recent version) will export files in RTF format.
Word for DOS probably does, too...
I have never tried with graphics. Probably doesn't, since I don't see it
understanding RTFD format.
Maybe AFS will write a Word filter for their WriteUp program.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Human-factors (ergonomics) on NeXT
Message-ID: <Cq73Lo.2Bq@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 08:29:47 GMT
I want to switch to Dvorak with my NeXT & Macintosh. I found the
xdvorak.c from soda.berkeley.edu:/pub/typing-injury . But it serves
for X only. Can anyone tell me is there any version which runs on the
NeXTStep ?
Further, does anybody have experience on using rest-reminder or typewatch
from the above site ?
Thanks in advance.
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
(NeXTMail Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: DataBase Suggestions????
Message-ID: <Cq7ow4.6r@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu> <ROBERT.94May18111735@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 16:09:40 GMT
Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> writes:
: >In article <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
: >kchapman@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Chapman) writes:
: >>We are looking for a relational DataBase usable on the NeXT system. We
: >were using DataPhile, but
: >>discovered that it does not have the application abilities that we are
: >looking for. We have a
: >>limited budget (of course) and limited amount of time (<1week). So you
: >can see that any information
: >>that you may have would be most helpful.
: >If you want something like DataPhile, but multiuser, try Parabase.
: Assuming you already have Sybase right?
I just revisited the Parabase product recently. The latest version can
run using Oracle, Sybase, InterBase, and Gupta database servers.
Parabase (the company) offers a bundle of Parabase (the product) with
their Gupta SQLServer RDBMS at a discount. (Ask info@parabase.com)
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Message-ID: <Cq7pBv.r4@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2rcl4k$eoo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <Cq28AG.L3@nexusadmin.com>
Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 16:19:06 GMT
David W. Fahrney (Dave@NexusAdmin.COM) wrote:
: Markus Wenzel writes
: !> erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) writes:
: !> [stuff about nasty 32MB limit that I hope gets fixed soon deleted]
: !> My NeXTanswers document says something about _64_ MB maximum DOS partition
: !> size! What the heck is right?
: Would the real NeXTanswer please stand up!
: The answer is: NeXT changed that particular document (#1481) sometime after it
: was first put out. I have both copies and the only thing that changed was the
: size: from 64MB to 32MB! Even their version number in the document stayed the
: same "version 3NA". You gotta get the index document 1001 periodically (I get
: it about once a month) and check the dates to see what has changed!
Use the email server (NeXTAnswers@NeXT.com) and request "index by date"
in the subject. This is the index (document 1001) sorted by date, with
the most recent docs first.
Watch out, though. I think NeXT periodically goes through the directory
structure and 'touch'es a random set of files, to make them look like
they've been updated, when they haven't. I have many times picked up
'new' documents that only differed from the previous version in that they
had a different last modification date...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Are these guys still in business?
Message-ID: <Cq7q0M.1sC@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <espritCq2HDM.5D8@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 16:33:57 GMT
Alan F. Perry (esprit@netcom.com) wrote:
: I recently got a copy of Appsoft Image and Diagram! from the NeXT auction
: at Bowling Green State University. Are the companies that made these
: packages (Appsoft and Lighthouse Design) still in business?
AppSoft is gone.
Lighthouse Design is still holding strong. They released Diagram!2 recently.
It's vastly improved over the first version.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Writing DB Adaptors: Ref?
Message-ID: <Cq7qsv.2qJ@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <Cq3sC7.CLp.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 16:50:55 GMT
Sean Levy (snl@CS.CMU.EDU) wrote:
: I'm interested in possibly writing an adaptor for the DBKit to talk to
: postgres. Are there any good books/tutorial docs on this? Example
: code would be nice as well.
To quote from the DBKit Concepts:
-----------
Adaptors for Other Servers
Creating adaptors isn't publicly supported; see the NeXT Computer Third
Party Software Catalog for a list of adaptors that are provided by other
companies.
-----------
Not very hospitable of NeXT, is it? Presumably someone knows how, since
there are several commercial adaptors (Gupta, QuickBase, etc...) for sale.
I can't see that NeXT wouldn't provide support if cash was thrown their
way, though...
NeXT should encourage the creation of adaptors, since each new adaptor
increases the value of DBKit as a powerful DB development tool, and makes
NeXTSTEP more viable as a platform for potential customers with
existing or desired databases.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: kimage@well.sf.ca.us (Kimbrough Bassett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Modem/Terminal SW?
Date: 22 May 1994 18:48:19 GMT
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Message-ID: <2ro9dj$ka0@nkosi.well.com>
Summary: looking for modem software for next
Keywords: Modem terminal connection dial next
Any recommendations for a modem dialout package for my white NeXT
system? Sure "tip" works, but I'd like zmodem GUI etc.
MicroPhone Pro has been a disaster; after months of delays and
twice being shipped black-only software, I finally got a fat
package with contorted installation instructions that doesn't
yield anything but "Bus error". If anybody objective has ever
successfully run released MicroPhone Pro on white hardware, I'd
be interested in hearing about it.
Thanks.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Writing DB Adaptors: Ref?
Date: 22 May 1994 17:59:37 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May22185937@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <Cq3sC7.CLp.3@cs.cmu.edu> <Cq7qsv.2qJ@cunews.carleton.ca>
To: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
In-reply-to: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca's message of Sun, 22 May 1994 16:50:55 GMT
<csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca> writes:
>Sean Levy (snl@CS.CMU.EDU) wrote:
>: I'm interested in possibly writing an adaptor for the DBKit to talk to
>: postgres. Are there any good books/tutorial docs on this? Example
>: code would be nice as well.
>To quote from the DBKit Concepts:
>-----------
>Adaptors for Other Servers
>Creating adaptors isn't publicly supported; see the NeXT Computer Third
>Party Software Catalog for a list of adaptors that are provided by other
>companies.
>-----------
>Not very hospitable of NeXT, is it? Presumably someone knows how, since
>there are several commercial adaptors (Gupta, QuickBase, etc...) for sale.
The reason NeXT don't currently support it is because the interface to
DBAdaptor is likely to change... They reserve the right to change it...
and don't want to be concerned with backward compatibility issues....
Whatever happened to that AS400 adaptor somebody said they'd be writing?
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: marsella@athos.rutgers.edu (Stacy Marsella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica 2.1 ListPlay
Message-ID: <May.22.15.57.08.1994.5165@athos.rutgers.edu>
Date: 22 May 94 19:57:09 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
I am running Mathematica 2.1 under version 3.2 of Nextstep on a
040/25Mhz slab. I am having trouble getting ListPlay to work. It
always gives me the same error. For example,
______________________________________________________
In[2]:=
ListPlay[Table[N[Sin[x]],{x, 400}]]
Message::name:
Message name MessageName[ListPlay, argm]
is not of the form symbol::name or
symbol::name::language.
______________________________________________________
Can someone tell me what is going wrong?
Thanks very much,
Stacy Marsella
marsella@ruccs.rutgers.edu
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.hp.misc
Subject: PPD file for HP LaserJet 4ML?
Date: 22 May 1994 21:18:57 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2roi81$hmb@news.iastate.edu>
A while ago, I've got the PPD file for HP 4ML from a kind soul in the NeXTSTEP
community. Now my harddrive has crashed and I can hardly recover any files
from it.
I need the PPD file. You'd be greatly appreciated and remember for the rest
of my life if you can point me to a site to get the file.
HP, do you have a ftp site for you customer?
Thanks for any help.
Chris
--
NeXTMail super welcomed!!|
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
<:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 22 May 1994 12:32:17 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2rnfs1$mdk@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2rcl4k$eoo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2rjh4l$lm@rosie.next.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) writes:
>In article <2rcl4k$eoo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
>(Markus Wenzel) writes:
>>My NeXTanswers document says something about _64_ MB maximum DOS
>>partition size! What the heck is right?
>If you download NeXTanswers and refer to local copies, I'd recommend at
>least checking Urgent_Tech_Support and Security on a regular basis, it
>never hurts to check more often than necessary. (however, in this case,
>your copy of the NeXTanswer must be *very* old. The copy I'm looking at
>is dated Feb 15, and it refers to 32MB, not 64.
OK, I admit I did not check Urgent_Tech_Support regularly. But I think
that almost everybody who got informed about the 64 MB limit before he
(re)installed 3.2 and needed a DOS partition sized his DOS partition to
something near 64 MB. And now everybody should reinstall NS/I and DOS
_completely_ in order to shrink the DOS partition down to 32 MB???
Which is a ridiculous size anyway, because Doom4DOS eats up 10 MB already :)
What about updating /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs instead of Urgent_Tech_Support
documents on NeXTanswers?
Markus.
--
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/usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
/etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart
/bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Modem/Terminal SW?
Message-ID: <Cq8vpG.BvL@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <2ro9dj$ka0@nkosi.well.com>
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 07:34:27 GMT
In article <2ro9dj$ka0@nkosi.well.com> kimage@well.sf.ca.us (Kimbrough Bassett) writes:
|
| Any recommendations for a modem dialout package for my white NeXT
| system? Sure "tip" works, but I'd like zmodem GUI etc.
|
| MicroPhone Pro has been a disaster; after months of delays and
| twice being shipped black-only software, I finally got a fat
| package with contorted installation instructions that doesn't
| yield anything but "Bus error". If anybody objective has ever
| successfully run released MicroPhone Pro on white hardware, I'd
| be interested in hearing about it.
|
| Thanks.
Have a look for PCOMM. Should be on every big ftp-site. Can also be found
on the Walnut-Creek-CD-ROM NOVA.
Nice Greetings from Munich
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel email_____________________________
Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de
81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: on
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fsp software
Date: 23 May 1994 04:46:25 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2rpcf1$i5u@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Is there a native fsp client for the NeXT? Preferably one with a graphic
interface. I'm always looking for new ways to toy with the net.
From: scottwei@aol.com (ScottWei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Writing DB Adaptors: Ref?
Date: 23 May 1994 03:18:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <2rplba$q8o@search01.news.aol.com>
References: <ROBERT.94May22185937@steffi.demon.co.uk>
In article <ROBERT.94May22185937@steffi.demon.co.uk>,
robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>The reason NeXT don't currently support it is because the interface
to
>DBAdaptor is likely to change... They reserve the right to change
it...
>and don't want to be concerned with backward compatibility
issues....
>Whatever happened to that AS400 adaptor somebody said they'd be
writing?
If you are interested in writing an adaptor you should contact NeXT
developer support or Felix Lin, the product marketing manager.
BTW I thought someone was writing a POSTGRES adaptor as well as an
AS400, you may want to ask NeXT if one exists before trying to write
one.
Scott Weiner
Paradigm Research, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Re: Human-factors (ergonomics) on NeXT
Message-ID: <Cq8xvy.FDr@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
References: <Cq73Lo.2Bq@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 08:21:34 GMT
1)
First of all, thanks to all the responders.
I received 4 copies of Dvorak mapping:
{a} Malcolm Crawford
{b} Alex Blakemore
{c} Glenn Brown
{d} Murshid
I had ftped some from Mac site for use on Mac.
Part of the 26 alphabet mapping of {a} does not match with others. And the
file was named as lg.keymapping when I received it.
When I tried to open {a} with keyboard.app (from NS 3.2), it contains
nothing but it works with Preferences.app . {b} & {c} hang the
keyboard.app
with infinite error messages overflowing the Console.
Murshid had included his version of keyboard.app which is different from
my version. Strange enough I cannot open his keymapping {d} with his
app but I can open it from my app (the problem is I must run the app first,
then double click the keymapping to open it, else the app report nothing).
I think the keyboard.apps are buggy because it can open a document some
times, but not always.
{d} is different from others by the numeric keys. I prefer the {b} & {c}
approach which might be natural to Dvorak.
2)
Even I want to try Dvorak on typing, I don't want to remap the command
keys.
At least in the learning stage, typed something wrong in an wordprocessor
is not as harmful as invoked wrong cmd+key which might be catastrophic.
I found an extension on Mac which remaps the characters on general typing
while retains the cmd+key equivalences across all applications. Currently,
I use Dvorak on Mac while not on NeXT until I come up with good solution.
The other reason that I don't turn to Dvorak on NeXT because I use vi on
NeXT, remapping makes me lost direction in command mode. Perhaps I should
post this problem to comp.editors or comp.human-factors
3)
I also want to seek for an app which monitors all input events from the
user, and warns her/him to take a break after 45min. Does such beast
exist ? Or I need to write it in the coming summer ?
Thanks
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
(NeXTMail Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bertin@euler.cpi.com(Scott J. Bertin)
Subject: Looking for SCCS
Message-ID: <1994May23.141012.18135@alw.nih.gov>
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 14:10:12 GMT
Here at work, I have the only NEXTSTEP machine. On all other machines we
use SCCS for revision control. Rather than use RCS and limit myself to
one machine (which may not be here very long) I would like to run SCCS on
my NeXTstation. Any information on obtaining SCCS would be greatly
appreciated.
Scott J. Bertin
bertin@euler.cpi.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 23 May 1994 02:40:32 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2rpj50$lju@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving
the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon
as they become available.
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will
be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.xbase.misc
Subject: Re: app to read .dbf or dbase files ?
Message-ID: <940523.021236.2Y0.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 02:12:36 MDT
References: <Cq0tBE.KLw@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU>
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
(originally only in c.s.next.software)
buster@spot.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster) writes:
> is there an app available to read PeeCee dbase files, .dbf's I think ?
> we have some data that we've been using a Mac and Excel to convert.
what format do you want them in? I've got some old code (from '88)
that has been pulled back into service at work lately, so I know it's
functional.
> buster@boulder.Colorado.EDU
didn't match headers.
--
Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: mark@lakshmi.cs.odu.edu (Mark Imbriaco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mouseX?!
Date: 23 May 1994 17:13:59 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Department of Computer Science
Message-ID: <2rqo8n$fr8@xanth.cs.odu.edu>
Keywords: mouseX, X11
I seem to be having a problem getting the mouseX chunks to expand
from the tar archive after I can them together and uncompress them..
Anyone have any helpful hints or maybe even tell me where I can get
the distribution in one big tar or pkg file?
Thanks!
Mark Imbriaco <mark@tcp.ip.net>
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From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS partitions ?
Date: 23 May 1994 17:12:23 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2rqo5n$4g2@rosie.next.com>
References: <2rnfs1$mdk@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
In article <2rnfs1$mdk@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
(Markus Wenzel) writes:
> What about updating /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs instead of
Urgent_Tech_Support
> documents on NeXTanswers?
As I indicated in a previous post. The bug was fixed some time ago, and
should be released in patch form very soon.
Erik
From: lloyd@goldhost.lscf.ucsb.edu (Lloyd Goldwasser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Human-factors (ergonomics) on NeXT
Date: 23 May 1994 17:20:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Message-ID: <2rqole$jdn@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu>
References: <Cq8xvy.FDr@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
In article <Cq8xvy.FDr@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong
Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) writes:
> . . .
> I received 4 copies of Dvorak mapping:
> {a} {b} {c} {d}
> . . .
> Part of the 26 alphabet mapping of {a} does not match with others.
> And the file was named as lg.keymapping when I received it.
Aha: file {a} was originally from me, and it's my own variant of
the Dvorak layout. You are of course free to use it and spread it
around: to me the modifications make the basic layout *even better*.
(It is
' , . Y J F G C R L
A O E I U D H T N S
; X Z P K B M W Q V.
The main change is the switching of I and U, so that the more common
of the two letters is under the left index finger in resting
position; and the shuffling of Y, P, and K, so that Y, which is more
common than K, is not so far away from the action. Also, having Q
under the right hand makes the Q-U-vowel combinations less awkward.)
> {d} is different from others by the numeric keys.
I haven't done anything to modify the numeric keys; I think that
the original Dvorak shifts -+{} somewhat, but I haven't felt the
need to do so for myself.
> When I tried to open {a} with keyboard.app (from NS 3.2), it contains
> nothing but it works with Preferences.app.
Do you mean that it _works_? If not, contact me and I'll send you
a working copy.
> Even [though] I want to try Dvorak on typing, I don't want to remap
> the command keys.
I don't think that lg.keymapping remaps the control keys. The old
keyboard.app didn't let you do so, and the new one (I think) lets
you decide.
> Currently, I use Dvorak on Mac while not on NeXT until I come up with
> good solution.
I hope that at least one of the solutions that people send you
does the trick!
Lloyd Goldwasser
goldwass@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: martinez@ll.mit.edu (DOUG MARTINEZ)
Subject: Mapping SW Q's
Message-ID: <9405231342.PN09039@LL.MIT.EDU>
Sender: news@ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Mon, 23 May 94 13:42:57 -0400
Greetings,
I am looking at different mapping sw packages. Has anyone ever used the
programs put out by Terre Logics? Reactions?
I need this program to be on CD-ROM and be
able to map streets around the country in detailed fashion. I m aware of
Steet Atlas USA any others ??
Thanx in advance
DJM
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 23 May 1994 19:43:49 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rr11l$hdv@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2rkdou$kkt@aisun.aiinet.com>
John Milton writes
> ...Steve said that the guide would
> be available on the net, I have not been able to track it down.
Check out the Web Page:
http://digifix.digifix.com/NeXT/NeXT_Product_Info/index.html
It has a pointer to the OpenStep and Solaris papers in
ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/General_NeXT_Information/White
_Papers
The Official Spec will not be out until June. The White Paper gives a
general feel for what things will and will not be in the Spec (sort of
a high-level diff). More specifically, it says which parts of NeXTSTEP
3.2 are "safe" and which should be avoided, if you wish to build
portable OpenStep applications.
Interestingly enough, OpenStep *does* have MachKit!
-- Ernie P.
--
Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics
Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu
"...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b
#import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.hp.misc
Subject: Re: PPD file for HP LaserJet 4ML?
Date: 23 May 1994 22:24:29 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rraet$4qc@rosie.next.com>
References: <2roi81$hmb@news.iastate.edu>
In article <2roi81$hmb@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
writes:
:A while ago, I've got the PPD file for HP 4ML from a kind soul in the
:NeXTSTEP community. Now my harddrive has crashed and I can hardly recover
:any files from it.
:
:I need the PPD file. You'd be greatly appreciated and remember for the
:rest of my life if you can point me to a site to get the file.
Try ftp.adobe.com, /pub/adobe/PPD/win/hp4ml_v1.ppd.
Ethan
From: armes@pioneer.tds.com (Jim Armes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NSfIP and 2 DOS P... Also... CDROM
Date: 23 May 1994 22:09:40 GMT
Organization: Trident Data Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rr9j4$i3n@discovery.ectds.com>
References: <2rqo5n$4g2@rosie.next.com>
Keywords: nsfip dos cdrom mac
In article <2rqo5n$4g2@rosie.next.com> erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) writes:
> In article <2rnfs1$mdk@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
> (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> > What about updating /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs instead of
> Urgent_Tech_Support
> > documents on NeXTanswers?
>
> As I indicated in a previous post. The bug was fixed some time ago, and
> should be released in patch form very soon.
>
> Erik
Am I going to be able to mount the second partition of my ide drive as well?
currently I can't mount either of my dos partitions because 1) one takes up my
entire second drive 2) Nextstep has never allowed me to mount the second
partition directly.
Also, as a totally tangential thing, I recently tried to mount a dual CDROM
(DOS/MAC) as a MAC partition -- however, whole directories of files were shown
as 0 bytes, while others were fine. The DOS side mounted fine.
ME << CONFUSED ?
Anyone else ran into this?
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From: armes@pioneer.tds.com (Jim Armes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Writing DB Adaptors: Ref?
Date: 23 May 1994 22:11:32 GMT
Organization: Trident Data Systems
Message-ID: <2rr9ml$i3o@discovery.ectds.com>
References: <Cq3sC7.CLp.3@cs.cmu.edu>
In article <Cq3sC7.CLp.3@cs.cmu.edu> snl@CS.CMU.EDU (Sean Levy) writes:
> I'm interested in possibly writing an adaptor for the DBKit to talk to
> postgres. Are there any good books/tutorial docs on this? Example
> ^^^
> code would be nice as well.
>
> TIA,
> -- Sean
I believe someone is already writing an adaptor for postgres, look in the
postgree unsupported_ports_list on anonymous FTP.
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From: rsavalle@thales.crihan.fr (Renaud Savalle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Retrieving Mathematica graphics in batch mode
Date: 23 May 1994 23:21:58 GMT
Organization: CRIHAN, Mont-Saint-Aignan (France)
Message-ID: <2rrdqm$qig@zaphod.crihan.fr>
Hello,
Does anyone know how to retrieve the postcript graphics of
Mathematica when it is run in batch mode with the command "math"
Thank you very much in advance.
Config: NeXTStation, Mathematica 2.0 for NeXT
Renaud.
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From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SOFTpc info..
Date: 24 May 1994 00:46:12 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rriok$7sl@eps.rain.com>
I just thought I would mention that it is possible to upgrade DOS 5.0 to
6.2 and apply the Windows 3.11 patch available from Microsoft to SoftPC.
Everything seems to work fine, and I also notice that windows loads
faster. Maybe because of smartdrv.
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MailEnclosure and Eudora
Date: 24 May 1994 00:58:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94May23175830@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
Has anyone had success using MailEnclosure (or some other app) to send
mail from a NeXT to a Mac that reads mail via Eudora? According to
the author of MailEnclosure, Eudora uses MIME, and one should be able
to use it (MailEnclosure, that is). When I try this, Eudora seems to
receive a text message, alright, but does not offer to save the
enclosure as a separate file the way it does when a file is sent via
Eudora.
Thanks,
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kamundse@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (Jana Wonder Twin #1)
Subject: Need a good publishing program...
Message-ID: <1994May24.012112.143763@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 01:21:12 GMT
I need to buy a good program that can handle magazine type layouts... It
need not handle color (my next is bw) but I need to do graphs, charts,
graphics , and text.
I would like one that can handle text wrap and other types of things.
If anyone has any recomendations as to a good program, I would be very
happy
BTW I am running 3.0 incase is makes a difference.
-Kristin
respond by email.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Display .nff files?
Message-ID: <1994May23.161412.20129@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@zia.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 23 May 94 16:14:11 MDT
Distribution: world
Is there any Next 3D viewers which can render a .nff file?
Thanks for any information...
Howard
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From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Opener 3.1.3 bug?
Message-ID: <thompsonCqAAMG.J7n@netcom.com>
Organization: Saperstein, et al.
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 01:54:16 GMT
I sent this to the Opener team, but haven't heard anything:
Opener _always_ uses /tmp the first time it starts up. It subsequently
uses the directory defined in the Preferences panel. However, this does
little good for me since I quit Opener when I'm done with it. Next time
I run it, it starts in /tmp again.
Does everyone know about this? Does anyone care? (Is it just me? :-)
just curious,
Eric
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Database Administrator thompson@netcom.com
Saperstein, Mayeda & Goldstein
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.admin
Subject: Serial driver broken in NS 3.2
Date: 24 May 1994 04:54:19 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rs19r$o2i@news.iastate.edu>
Keywords: serial,driver,ns,NS,NeXTSTEP
The serial driver in NS 3.2 has broken again.
Config:
Hayes OPTIMA 144 external modem connected to COM1
DELL 450DE/2 JAWS running NeXTSTEP 3.2
Proof:
Running kermit under NS 3.2 via serial ports above 9600bps would cause
characters to drop (even in interactive screen display), but this doesn't
happen under OS/2 or DOS.
Anyone got a fix?
Does it imply that I cannot send FAX/DATA at higher than 9600bps?
Thanks for any info.
Chris
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chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
<:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: animated icons?
Message-ID: <CqA146.44r@chemelex.com>
Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Organization: Research Group of Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 22:28:53 GMT
Say, anyone have or know where to find animated icons...
I saw some on a windoze machine, way cool.... but then I really
don't need to slow my machine down anymore :-)
Fred Schenkelberg
NeXTmail enjoyed
fms@chemelex.com
Redwood City, CA
--
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From: keogh@anshar.shadow.net (Matt Keogh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Skinny Dip
Date: 24 May 1994 03:08:40 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <2rs95o$85h@anshar.shadow.net>
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From: michael@denwa.info.com (Michael Gersten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for: psh, Jot
Date: 24 May 1994 00:55:41 -0700
Organization: Info Connections, West Los Angeles
Message-ID: <2rsbtt$grs@denwa.info.com>
I've just noticed that two program that I used under 2.x are no longer
present on 3.2 NeXtstep. Can someone who has these send me copies of
them?
The two programs are: psh, which opens a connection to the window
server for interactive, real-time, 2-way postscript (YAP is only one
way, non-interactive); and Jot, which copies standard input into a
date-named file and then adds it to a digital librarian index. (Joy may
have depended on the 2.X librarian index file format, so it may have
been removed for that reason).
Michael
michael@stb.info.com
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NeXT Registered Developer (NeRD) # 3860 -- Hire me! (Ready around 12/93)
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is GNUPLOT avaliable for NS/FIP?
Date: 24 May 1994 07:12:12 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Message-ID: <2rs9cc$sl4@due.uninett.no>
I'm used to GNUPLOT from before, so I would like to have it on my NeXT as
well: Do anyone know where I can find a NS/FIP binary or a source that
will
complile (without to much hazzle) on NS/FIP
Thanks in advance
Eystein Dugstad
SFIH, Norway
From: a5401gac@c1.edvz.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WordProcessor for manuals
Date: 24 May 1994 09:09:47 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <2rsg8r$t0d@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
Does anybody know of a good NEXTSTEP word processor that assists in
creation and maintenance of large software manuals and technical
documentation. Some of the features we need for this purpose are:
- handling of large documents in various files
- automatic TableOfContents and Index
- graphics support, eps & tiff
- anchoring of figure text to the figures
- automatic index of figures
- rtfd file in/output
- even/odd page printing for double-sided pages
First we write the complete software manual. Parts of the manual are then
used for building the NEXTSTEP-style online help (.rtfd). Any changes
in parts of the original manual, that also are source of the help-rtfd
files should automatically be done in the help document as well.
Thank you for answer,
- Lucas Filz
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: acherman@iwi.unibe.ch (Achermann Franz)
Subject: XFig/Transfig
Message-ID: <1994May24.084249.15522@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 08:42:49 GMT
Hi folks,
I'am looking for something _like_ XFig on the Next. _like_ means
that I do not have co-eXist, so I need a real .app. Any Hints ?
Greetings Franz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis)
Subject: Re: Problem - defaults in Emacs for NS
Message-ID: <CqAAEE.4DE@kgnome.uucp>
Sender: usenet@kgnome.uucp
Organization: 3DT "Skunk Works"
References: <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu> <CEDMAN.94May21134517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 01:49:25 GMT
Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
: In article <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu> jzinn@michele.math.tamu.edu (Joel Zinn) writes:
: I can't seem to change the default font/fontsize. Do I have to use
: dwrite to do this? I can't seem to use ns-change-font or many of
: the other ns commands. If I just use the font panel, the next time I
: call up Emacs there is no change in the font or fontsize.
: I'm sorry to say in Emacs 4.0, if you want to make the changes stick
: you either have to use the dwrites or add the corresponding lines to
: your ~/.emacs. Happily, there is a save preferences command (and menu
: item) in 4.01 (to be released to beta testers any week now) which does
: the dwrites automatically.
Finally !
Another problem I always encounter is that the "window" location is
"unsavble". It looks so ugly, and confusing... anyways. Finally,
there is no option for running a single copy of Emacs 4.0, the one I
have on my dock is not the one that is run when I edit from VT
... another is started ... and there is no real choice for "double"
clicking other files ... and opening other "windows".
Oh well ... hope the changes will get released soon....
: Carl Edman
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem - defaults in Emacs for NS
Date: 24 May 1994 12:02:40 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May24130240@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu> <CEDMAN.94May21134517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<CqAAEE.4DE@kgnome.uucp>
To: petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis)
In-reply-to: petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca's message of Tue, 24 May 1994 01:49:25 GMT
Well it is ugly in the sense that the initial window is _displayed_
ie. order'ed to front _before_ .emacs is read (hint hint) ...
Currently I have this in .emacs
(cond (window-system
(set-face-foreground 'modeline "grey80")
(set-face-background 'modeline "grey30")
(set-face-foreground 'region "black")
(set-face-background 'region "grey60")
(setq default-frame-alist '((background-color . "black") (foreground-color . "
grey80") (cursor-type . box) (cursor-color . "blue1") (height . 65)))
(setq initial-frame-alist '((top . 1) (left . 550) (width . 80) (height . 65))
)))
This works but I can see the position change ....(That's probably an X
support inherited problem though.. ie that's when then call the frame
creation stuff)
Also Carl's before-make-frame-hook function is useful...
(add-hook 'before-make-frame-hook
'(lambda ()
(let ((left (cdr (assq 'left (frame-parameters (selected-frame)))))
(top (cdr (assq 'top (frame-parameters (selected-frame))))))
(cond
((or (assq 'top parameters) (assq 'left parameters)))
((or (not left) (not top)))
(t
(setq parameters (cons (cons 'left (+ left 25))
(cons (cons 'top (+ top 25))
parameters))))))))
>there is no option for running a single copy of Emacs 4.0, the one I
>have on my dock is not the one that is run when I edit from VT
What's VT? It you are talking about running a text only emacs from a
terminal window then try "emacs-nw" instead ... assuming that a link
exists from /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs to /usr/local/bin/emacs _and_
that that version is found before NeXT's 18.... version.
>... another is started ... and there is no real choice for "double"
>clicking other files ... and opening other "windows".
Don't worry about the client-server Emacs stuff since it won't work
the way you want it to.
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: craigh@flatfoot.pencom.com (Craig C Halley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Lost App
Date: 24 May 1994 13:10:55 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <2rsucv$afb@digdug.pencom.com>
A while back I saw an app that was very useful for documenting an
application under development. It would automatically print out or save
to a file the entire menu structure of the target application, following
submenus to submenus and so on. Does anyone know where I can find this
app or what it is called?
Thanks
Craig Halley
craigh@pencom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: WordProcessor for manuals
Message-ID: <CqB6wA.2C8@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2rsg8r$t0d@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:31:21 GMT
Definitely look at Pages by Pages. (I don't know about the auto indexing,
though...) Pages is a very powerful tool. I really need to spend more time
with our copy at the office.
If you're on black hardware, also consider FrameMaker, which is commonly
used on many platforms for exactly what you are talking about. Does Frame
still sell FrameMaker, even though they didn't port to NS/I??? I think
they went the way of WordPerfect, and simply sell the last released
version (1.01) for ever...
Lucas Filz (a5401gac@c1.edvz.univie.ac.at) wrote:
: Does anybody know of a good NEXTSTEP word processor that assists in
: creation and maintenance of large software manuals and technical
: documentation. Some of the features we need for this purpose are:
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
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From: thrash@sbctri.sbc.com (David R. Thrash)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Serial driver broken in NS 3.2
Date: 24 May 1994 14:24:14 GMT
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rt2me$agv@sbctri.sbc.com>
References: <2rs19r$o2i@news.iastate.edu>
In article <2rs19r$o2i@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes:
> The serial driver in NS 3.2 has broken again.
>
{delete]
> Anyone got a fix?
>
[delete]
get Mux.V1.4 from cs.orst.edu.
Cut of Info page:
"Serial Port Driver, Copyright Mark Salyzyn 1994. This product includes
software developed by the University of California, Berkeley and the Carnegie
Mellon University.
The code originally stemmed from a driver written by Olivetti. This code should
retain copyrights of all sources, and must acknowledge the sources in all
original and derived works.
The features of this driver are that 2200ch/s have been reported, and flow
control, 19200 and 38400 work properly. In addition, up to four instances, with
each instance holding from 1 to 8 multiplexed serial ports, allows up to 26
(the letters of the alphabet limit us ...) serial ports to be added to the
NeXTSTEP computer. The driver dynamically handles 8250, 16450, 16550(Broken
FIFO), NS16550AFN and 82510 (four byte FIFO) ports and has the capability of
assigning the ports devices in sequence for each instance of the port driver."
Best of Luck,
drt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Problem - defaults in Emacs for NS
In-Reply-To: petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca's message of Tue, 24 May 1994 01:49:25 GMT
To: petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May24082034@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu> <CEDMAN.94May21134517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<CqAAEE.4DE@kgnome.uucp>
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 12:20:33 GMT
In article <CqAAEE.4DE@kgnome.uucp> petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis) writes:
Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
: In article <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu> jzinn@michele.math.tamu.edu (Joel Zinn) writes:
: I can't seem to change the default font/fontsize. Do I have to use
: dwrite to do this? I can't seem to use ns-change-font or many of
: the other ns commands. If I just use the font panel, the next time I
: call up Emacs there is no change in the font or fontsize.
: I'm sorry to say in Emacs 4.0, if you want to make the changes stick
: you either have to use the dwrites or add the corresponding lines to
: your ~/.emacs. Happily, there is a save preferences command (and menu
: item) in 4.01 (to be released to beta testers any week now) which does
: the dwrites automatically.
Finally !
Another problem I always encounter is that the "window" location is
"unsavble".
Sure it is saveable. Just try the Top and Left dwrites. However,
in 4.01 just click on the Save Preferences menu item and the correct
dwrites for your currently selected frame get written out.
It looks so ugly, and confusing... anyways. Finally, there is no
option for running a single copy of Emacs 4.0, the one I have on my
dock is not the one that is run when I edit from VT ... another is
started
If you want to use the same emacs from the command line you have any
number of options. You can use 'open -a Emacs foo' (preferably with
'open -a Emacs' as an alias), you can just 'open foo' (if you have set
Emacs to be the DefaultOpenApp) or you can run emacsclient (if you
added (server-start) to your ~/.emacs).
... and there is no real choice for "double" clicking other files
... and opening other "windows".
Sure there is, right now ! Have you tried the DefaultOpenApp from the
defaults section of the manual ?
Oh well ... hope the changes will get released soon....
They were a couple of days ago to the beta testers.
Carl Edman
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem - defaults in Emacs for NS
Date: 24 May 1994 15:21:41 GMT
Organization: mal franz, mal anna
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Quoting Robert == Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Qutoing Peter == petergun@vectrex.login.qc.ca
Peter> there is no option for running a single copy of Emacs 4.0,
Peter> the one I have on my dock is not the one that is run when I
Peter> edit from VT ... another is started ... and there is no
Peter> real choice for "double" clicking other files ... and
Peter> opening other "windows".
Robert> Don't worry about the client-server Emacs stuff since it
Robert> won't work the way you want it to.
If I got you right, folks, the way the client-server stuff *should*
work is like so: double-clicking in the Workspace launches Emacs if
it's not yet running, but opens a window in Emacs, if it is running.
That's exactly as it's implemented. Thanks, Carl Edman. But you need a
dwrite for that. It's mentioned in the documentation, anyway.
Citing ns-emacs:
Another default used by many Emacs users is this.
dwrite Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs
It will cause the Workspace to open files without a registered
extension in Emacs instead of as usual Edit. For this default to work,
Emacs needs to be in the application search path of the Workspace (which
usually includes `~/Apps' and `/LocalApps').
If you'd bother grabbing the recently released version of open
(open.1.0.NI.s.tar.gz), you get in addition an alias for open, called
Emacs, which you can use in the Terminal window to open any file in an
Emacs window. This is to be construed as elegant.
What exactly did you mean with `does not work'? I'm quite sure, it
works. It does on my table.
Regards from dam[np] Berlin,
--
Andreas König
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener 3.1.3 bug?
Date: 24 May 1994 16:28:06 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2rt9un$ser@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <thompsonCqAAMG.J7n@netcom.com>
Eric Thompson (thompson@netcom.com) wrote:
: Opener _always_ uses /tmp the first time it starts up. It subsequently
: uses the directory defined in the Preferences panel. However, this does
: little good for me since I quit Opener when I'm done with it. Next time
: I run it, it starts in /tmp again.
: Does everyone know about this? Does anyone care? (Is it just me? :-)
I guess I have a similar complaint, all I want it
to do is compress a file and put it where the original was, and delete
the original. I have found how to change the dir, but I want to
do it in many directories.... no I have to go to /tmp and move the
files I just compressed to where I want them, and delete the original
myself... and yes, I admit, I am a newbie to Opener....
gary
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From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: XFig/Transfig
Date: 24 May 1994 17:21:14 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2rtd2a$fbm@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1994May24.084249.15522@aragorn.unibe.ch>
In article <1994May24.084249.15522@aragorn.unibe.ch>,
Achermann Franz <acherman@iwi.unibe.ch> wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>I'am looking for something _like_ XFig on the Next. _like_ means
>that I do not have co-eXist, so I need a real .app. Any Hints ?
>
>Greetings Franz
>
Try Diagram!, Draw, or Create. BTW - a shareware X11 exists. I use it and
it works just fine.
--
*** Michael Conners - THE Ohio State University ***
Gun control isn't about guns, it's about control.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stu@lgc.com (Stu Henderson)
Subject: Whereabouts of Stuart.app
Message-ID: <1994May24.173652.16627@lgc.com>
Sender: usenet@lgc.com
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corporation
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 17:36:52 GMT
I have searched the FAQ's and the ftp sites, but cannot seem to find
the shareware Stuart.app terminal emulation shareware that is so
often discussed. Does anyone know where can it be obtained?
Thanks,
Stu Henderson
Landmark Graphics Corp.
Houston, TX
stu@lgc.com
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 24 May 1994 18:08:37 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rtfr5$6dg@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <2rkdou$kkt@aisun.aiinet.com> <2rr11l$hdv@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Ernest Prabhakar (ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu) wrote:
: Interestingly enough, OpenStep *does* have MachKit!
Well, let's qualify that--OpenStep specifies that certain Mach thread
functions should be available in Sun's version using lightweight processes.
Not all by any stretch of the imagination. And MachKit probably uses just
that subset.
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) ???? CS in September |
+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------+
From: goldstei@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Jonathan Goldstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next Software Archive: Where?!
Date: 24 May 1994 18:13:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rtg45$3t0@netnews.upenn.edu>
References: <2rkdou$kkt@aisun.aiinet.com> <2rr11l$hdv@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <2rtfr5$6dg@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
They just put a Next on my desk and I don't know where to go to get software.
Is there a site for Next software like the Sumex.standford sites for Mac?
If you could e-mail me the address, it would be appreciated.
Thanks!
______________________________________________________________________________
Jonathan S. Goldstein University of Pennsylvania
Development and Alumni Relations
goldstei@ben.dev.upenn.edu Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19104
______________________________________________________________________________
The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of the University
Any opinions offered herein should not be considered a substitute
for paid professional advice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: Wanted: WordPerfect for Black
Message-ID: <CqBMvr.L2@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 19:16:38 GMT
Hi All!
I was tring to wait for an affordable word processor for my NeXTstation that
would have more comprehensive features than WriteNow which, though it is
sufficient for the vast majority of what I need to do, lacks a few features I
could really use. SO...I've decided to see if I can find someone who will sell
me their WordPerfect for motorolla hardware for a reasonalby low price (they
just don't pay seminarians mission-critical salaries). I've seen it advertised
in the $35-50 range depending on version, and I'd be happy if I could locate
something like that. Thanks very much. Peace,
James
---
_____________________________________________________________________
James David Meacham, 3rd
M.Div. Candidate
Andover Newton Theological School e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net
7 Flint Road Phone: 617-926-6024
Watertown, MA 02172 NeXTMAIL accepted
Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street
First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116
(Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730
_____________________________________________________________________
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_____________________________________________________________________
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M.Div. Candidate
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem - defaults in Emacs for NS
Date: 24 May 1994 16:42:43 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May24174243@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu> <CEDMAN.94May21134517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<CqAAEE.4DE@kgnome.uucp> <ROBERT.94May24130240@steffi.demon.co.uk>
<2rt625$89r@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
To: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig)
In-reply-to: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de's message of 24 May 1994 15:21:41 GMT
<koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de> writes:
>Quoting Robert == Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk>
>Qutoing Peter == petergun@vectrex.login.qc.ca
Peter>there is no option for running a single copy of Emacs 4.0,
Peter>the one I have on my dock is not the one that is run when I
Peter>edit from VT ... another is started ... and there is no
Peter>real choice for "double" clicking other files ... and
Peter>opening other "windows".
Robert>Don't worry about the client-server Emacs stuff since it
Robert>won't work the way you want it to.
>If I got you right, folks, the way the client-server stuff *should*
>work is like so: double-clicking in the Workspace launches Emacs if
>it's not yet running, but opens a window in Emacs, if it is running.
>That's exactly as it's implemented. Thanks, Carl Edman. But you need a
>dwrite for that. It's mentioned in the documentation, anyway.
No that's not what I was refering to (see Node: Using Emacs as a server)
I think the original person was refering to this behaviour...
Launch emacs from Workspace...
then from a Terminal window type "emacs"
That _always_ will give you two copies of Emacs unless you have set
the client server stuff up and the client server stuff doesn't work
like you think it ought to. ie. the client doesn't get a new frame
automatically.
---
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: simple reminder app
Date: 24 May 1994 19:23:31 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rtk7j$446@umd5.umd.edu>
Keywords: simple reminder app
Is there a simple, free app out there which will remind me when I have an
appointment? Just something that beeps and pops up a panel five minutes before
I need to be somewhere.
I've looked at Cassandra but (IMHO) dealing with that user interface is just
too painful. Is there, for instance, an updated version of the old Date app
around?
Thanks,
Rod Price
rprice@reunion.umd.edu
From: dekorte@ibm19.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen L. DeKorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gopher, irc, binaries - where?
Date: 24 May 1994 20:14:03 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
Message-ID: <2rtn6b$pgq@mailer.fsu.edu>
Anyone know where I can ftp NeXT(black) binaries for some
Unix utilities like:
IRC
gopher
www
Thanks,
Steve
Control: cancel <2rs95o$85h@anshar.shadow.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: keogh@anshar.shadow.net (Matt Keogh)
Subject: cmsg cancel <2rs95o$85h@anshar.shadow.net>
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Date: 24 May 1994 03:08:40 -0400
Message-ID: <cancel.2rs95o$85h@anshar.shadow.net>
Skinny Dip
From: mzemina@nxtul62.wiltel.com (Mike Zemina)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ZIP for the NeXT
Date: 24 May 1994 22:01:02 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <2rtteu$s28@gateway.wiltel.com>
Keywords: ZIP Next
Has any one seen a zip app for the NeXT? Note: ZIP app MUST be compatible
with PKZIP!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shawn@monitor.com
Subject: Soft PC data ---- performance and compatibility ???????
Message-ID: <CqC685.6C1@monitor.com>
Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 02:14:28 GMT
i'm trying to connect with some people who have used or are using SoftPC on
NS/Intel on a regular basis to reality-check it's capabilities.
specifically, i'd like to know:
- what apps (or class of apps) DON'T work
- what is performance really like
- does the networking stuff work (only Novell, right?)
any info muchos appreciated. i'll summarize. if this is in a FAQ somewhere
please feel free to flame me (though i've just checked the latest FAQ's on
cs.orst.edu).
shawn
---
Shawn Broderick
Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw
through the leather straps.
-- Emo Phillips
--
Shawn Broderick
Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
From: swiet@fermat.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem - defaults in Emacs for NS
Date: 25 May 1994 03:22:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <SWIET.94May24232211@fermat.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <2rld2u$gtj@news.tamu.edu> <CEDMAN.94May21134517@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<CqAAEE.4DE@kgnome.uucp>
<CEDMAN.94May24082034@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Tue, 24 May 1994 12:20:33 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.94May24082034@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
If you want to use the same emacs from the command line you have any
number of options. You can use 'open -a Emacs foo' (preferably with
'open -a Emacs' as an alias), you can just 'open foo' (if you have set
Emacs to be the DefaultOpenApp) or you can run emacsclient (if you
added (server-start) to your ~/.emacs).
This is the best way...but don't forget to mention that you need
the fixed `open' command, recently uploaded to the archives to
do an `open -a <app>'.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: ZIP for the NeXT
Message-ID: <CqCCqp.Ers@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2rtteu$s28@gateway.wiltel.com>
Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 04:35:13 GMT
Mike Zemina (mzemina@nxtul62.wiltel.com) wrote:
: Has any one seen a zip app for the NeXT? Note: ZIP app MUST be compatible
: with PKZIP!!!
The binaries to Info-ZIP's zip/unzip are included with Opener.app. These
will compress/decompress files done with any version of PK-ZIP.
I, in fact, use Info-ZIP's zip/unzip in DOS as well (Info-ZIP is
distributed as source, that compiles under both UNIX and DOS and
others), since it is every bit as good (features and speed) as PK, but free.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MailEnclosure and Eudora
Date: 25 May 1994 04:57:34 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <2rulru$hk@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <MAGNUS.94May23175830@fisher.stanford.edu>
In article <MAGNUS.94May23175830@fisher.stanford.edu> magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes:
>Has anyone had success using MailEnclosure (or some other app) to send
>mail from a NeXT to a Mac that reads mail via Eudora? According to
>the author of MailEnclosure, Eudora uses MIME, and one should be able
>to use it (MailEnclosure, that is). When I try this, Eudora seems to
>receive a text message, alright, but does not offer to save the
>enclosure as a separate file the way it does when a file is sent via
>Eudora.
Well, it is definitely works between Eudora and either Eloquent or
Echelon. I use Eloquent personally, and it works rather well. When you send
a mail attachment from Eloquent and read it in Eudora, Eudora simply asks
you to save the attachment.
When you send from Eudora, you have two choices for encoding: binhex
and Apple Double. If you choose binhex, then on the Eloquent/Echelon side
you will see a binhex file in your mail message (assuming you have Opener).
Double clicking on this icon will cause opener to bring up a WorkSpace viewer
containing the files in the attachment, with the resource and data forks
separated out. If you choose Apple Double encoding, then Eloquent/Echelon
will show two files for each file sent, one with the extension .OCTETSTREAM,
and the other with something like .APPLERSRC.
I have not tried sending attachments from MailEnclosure to Eudora.
Your problem may be that you don't have a recent enough copy of Eudora.
Eudora did not have MIME capabilities until v1.41b, if I'm not mistaken.
Rich Ogata
rogata@arpa.mil
From: sdunbar@mathlab21.unl.edu (Steven Dunbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FORTRAN compiler for NS/FIP?
Date: 24 May 1994 16:21:12 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: global
Message-ID: <2rt9ho$nbe@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Keywords: FORTRAN compiler NeXTstep Intel
Is there a FORTRAN compiler for NeXTstep running on an Intel platform,
especially a Pentium?
Replies to Steve Dunbar
sdunbar@mathlab01.unl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jfr@trwlasd.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on colorstation sloooowwww
Message-ID: <CqCHpn.9Gq@trwlasd.com>
Sender: jfr@trwlasd.com (Jon Rosen)
Organization: TRW
References: <1994May17.174948.12366@cyantic.com>
Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 06:22:34 GMT
Mark T. Dornfeld writes
> doko@cs.tu-berlin.de writes:
> > When typing in a FrameMaker document, the text cursor runs 2 to 10
> > characters behind your typing. I have seen this only on color
> > stations.
>
> I have forgotten the exact details, but FM boots up in monochrome mode
> which results in a poorly aligned frame buffer in the colour systems and
> produces slow screen writes. (Is this right?)
>
> Anyway, just drop a colour element into the document and presto!
> everything just sings since FM now is using colour mode which matches up
> nicely with the system.
>
> Most of my standard FM templates now have a hidden colour element in
> them somewhere, so I don't have this problem very often.
This indeed may be ONE source of the problem, but I have also noticed
that the problem only occurs when I have the borders displayed. When
I turn off borders, the cursor keeps up with my typing. I believe
I have noticed this on monochrome systems as well.
Jon
From: dillon@apollo.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.admin
Subject: Re: Serial driver broken in NS 3.2
Date: 24 May 1994 15:04:08 -0700
Organization: Obvious Implementations Corp
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rttko$2ia@apollo.west.oic.com>
References: <2rs19r$o2i@news.iastate.edu>
Keywords: serial,driver,ns,NS,NeXTSTEP
In article <2rs19r$o2i@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes:
:The serial driver in NS 3.2 has broken again.
:
:Config:
: Hayes OPTIMA 144 external modem connected to COM1
: DELL 450DE/2 JAWS running NeXTSTEP 3.2
:
:Proof:
> Running kermit under NS 3.2 via serial ports above 9600bps would cause
:characters to drop (even in interactive screen display), but this doesn't
>happen under OS/2 or DOS.
:
:Anyone got a fix?
:
:Does it imply that I cannot send FAX/DATA at higher than 9600bps?
:
:Thanks for any info.
:
:Chris
:--
:NeXTMail super welcomed!!|
:Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
:chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
:<:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
* Make sure you are using the port with hardware handshaking ... /dev/cufa,
/dev/ttyfa, etc... (I think).
* Make sure you are using V.42[bis] connections... i.e. an error checked
connection on your modem, otherwise there is no end-to-end hardware
flow control even when there is computer<->modem hardware flow control.
* Assuming NeXT supports the 16550's FIFOs, upgrade your serial ports to
16550's instead of 16450's (for PC/compatibles).
If it is still screwing up, scream at NeXT ... their serial drivers have
been broken from day one. I have heard, though, that reliable third party
drivers are available... could someone post the company name?
-Matt
--
Matthew Dillon dillon@apollo.west.oic.com
1005 Apollo Way ham: KC6LVW (no mail drop)
Incline Village, NV. 89451 Obvious Implementations Corporation
USA Sandel-Avery Engineering
[always include a portion of the original email in any response!]
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener 3.1.3 bug?
Date: 25 May 1994 13:12:32 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA
Message-ID: <2rvis0$9dl@news.duke.edu>
References: <thompsonCqAAMG.J7n@netcom.com>
Eric Thompson writes
> I sent this to the Opener team, but haven't heard anything:
Funny, I haven't received any e-mail from you and I'm the current maintainer...
> Opener _always_ uses /tmp the first time it starts up. It subsequently
> uses the directory defined in the Preferences panel. However, this does
> little good for me since I quit Opener when I'm done with it. Next time
> I run it, it starts in /tmp again.
I tried this with the same results. Looks like you've uncovered a bug that's
been in there for at least a year, since I took the app over. I'll add it to
my ToDo list for the next release.
Denise
--
Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar
Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 286-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu (Mike Mezzino)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: UPDATE GatorFTP.app v1.5 NS3.0 and Fat
Date: 25 May 1994 14:22:20 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2rvmus$k9p@masala.cc.uh.edu>
Hello GatorFTP Users:
GatorFTP_1.5 fixes a few bugs in 1.4 and contains a new feature
resulting from a previous suggestion.
The new version can be found on our new archive site
uhoop.egr.uh.edu
under
/pub/misc
as
GatorFTP_NS3.0_1.5.app.tar.Z (NeXTstep version 3.0)
GatorFTP_MAB_1.5.app.tar.Z (NeXTstep fat binary)
BUGS:
1) The code to animate the icon during file transfers has evidently
found a crack in NeXTstep 3.X's venerable armor. Until I am able to sort it
out, it has been removed for this release.
NEW FEATURES:
1) Whenever you select a file, the modification date is now displayed
next to the file size.
Regards,
Mike Mezzino
mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu
From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS
Date: 25 May 1994 15:12:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rvpt2$aa2@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <2rtfr5$6dg@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Sean O. Luke writes
<Ernest Prabhakar (ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu) wrote:
<
<: Interestingly enough, OpenStep *does* have MachKit!
<
<Well, let's qualify that--OpenStep specifies that certain Mach thread
<functions should be available in Sun's version using lightweight processes.
<Not all by any stretch of the imagination. And MachKit probably uses just
<that subset.
<
<+---------------------------------------------------------+
<| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
<| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, |
<| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) ???? CS in September |
<+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo--------------------+
Well , let's qualify that further --
Actually, since that paper was written there have been changes.
The current OpenStep spec does NOT include the MachKit. (This
does not preclude NeXT, for example, from providing the MachKit;
It just means that is not part of the base API). In fact,
all references to Mach specific types have been removed from the
API. Thread support will be there via a new foundation class.
How the support is implemented is OS dependent. NeXTs version
may use cthreads and Mach kernel threads. Suns would be likely
to use the Solaris threads library and/or LWP's.
--
Mark Anenberg , OpenStep Development Team
Email: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (NeXTMail Welcome)
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and
in no way represent those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
From: hvillega@roxette (Hugo Villegas Roji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep 3.2 Academic PRICE?
Date: 25 May 1994 15:30:02 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <2rvqtq$2bec@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
Hi!
Anybody out there knows how much is the cost of NeXTStep 3.2 academic?
I'll appreciate any help
..................................................................
. Hugo Ernesto Villegas Roji .
. Nexit Diseno Grafico .
. .
. Ricardo Margain Zozaya 210-5 / CP 66267 .
. Valle de Santa Engracia / Garza Garcia / Nuevo Leon / Mexico .
. tels. 52 (8) 335 19 14 / 335 19 15 / 335 08 87 / 356 30 53 fax .
..................................................................
From: mchrist@acpub.duke.edu (Margaret Christopher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.2 Academic PRICE?
Date: 25 May 1994 16:12:04 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA
Message-ID: <2rvtck$eh2@news.duke.edu>
References: <2rvqtq$2bec@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
Hugo Villegas Roji (hvillega@roxette) wrote:
: Hi!
:
: Anybody out there knows how much is the cost of NeXTStep 3.2 academic?
: I'll appreciate any help
$299.00 in the US...from outside the US, I believe you can order the
product from Alembic Systems in Colorado.
info@alembic.com.
Dave Briggman
Paradigm Shift Corporation
(coming back up the Tuesday, following Memorial Day)
From: pcu@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: simple reminder app
Date: 25 May 1994 16:48:00 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2rvvg0$6gu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2rtk7j$446@umd5.umd.edu>
In article <2rtk7j$446@umd5.umd.edu> rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price)
writes:
>
> Is there a simple, free app out there which will remind me when I have an
> appointment? Just something that beeps and pops up a panel five minutes
Try leave in a csh.
--
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
Anything to me is sweeter,
Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app error question..
Message-ID: <CqAuo5.9A@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
References: <2rmf2n$9fu@eps.rain.com>
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 09:07:17 GMT
In article <2rmf2n$9fu@eps.rain.com> steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
writes:
> Reply-To: steve@eps.rain.com
> Distribution: world
>
> I'm am receiving the following error message in my console when I try to
> use CDPlayer.app
>
> cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 6
> cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
> cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7
> cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
>
> Any ideas???
>
> --
> Steven Kornreich
> steve@eps.rain.com
Hi Steven,
It happens to me once. First, try to see if you can use CDPlayer.app if
you logged in as root.
Tell me one more thing : is your CD-ROM drive still available once you
failed to use CDPlayer or do you have to reboot ?
Jacques
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: TipTop Dies Instantly (1.0)
Message-ID: <CqAvrr.BD@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
References: <schwettCq2uo2.Lon@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 09:31:02 GMT
I have the exact same problem with Pages by Pages. The people from Pages
that I know personally are great ! They're helping me in all the ways they
can. But it still doesn't work on my particular machine.
If you find a way around your problem, then I'm also interested to try the
solution myself.
Thanks
Jacques
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: glocker@sirius.com (Andreas Glocker)
Subject: Re: DataBase Suggestions????
Sender: news@pcnntp.apple.com
Message-ID: <glocker-240594172705@17.220.88.99>
Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 01:27:05 GMT
References: <1994May13.174954.22459@slate.mines.colorado.edu> <ROBERT.94May18111735@steffi.demon.co.uk> <Cq7ow4.6r@cunews.carleton.ca>
Organization: Sirius Solutions, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Try QuickBase by SofDesign in NH
Tel 603/495-4101
email: Scott_Keith@sdc.mv.com
It includes an application builder and other nice goodies.
Andreas
--
Sirius Solutions, Inc.
San Francisco, California
NEXTSTEP and Newton Software Solutions
vox: 415 957-9044
info@sirius.com (NeXTMAIL welcome)
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Soft PC data ---- performance and compatibility ???????
Date: 25 May 1994 16:56:58 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2s000q$ntf@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <CqC685.6C1@monitor.com>
In article <CqC685.6C1@monitor.com> shawn@monitor.com writes:
>i'm trying to connect with some people who have used or are using SoftPC on
>NS/Intel on a regular basis to reality-check it's capabilities.
>specifically, i'd like to know:
> - what apps (or class of apps) DON'T work
Every app that I have tried has worked without crashing or screwing up.
> - what is performance really like
This is the not so impressive part. Performance seems so so (about 75-90 %
of native speed, depending on what you are running, and whether you are in
full screen mode or not). Also, as far as I know, in SoftPC full screeen
mode you are limited to 640x480 resolution. This is unacceptable, and I hope
this limitation is lifted in the next release. Finally, SoftPC has a few
bugs and quirks that I have found. Namely, switching to full screen mode and
back again sometimes doesn't go too smoothly. Also, the mouse attaching and
unattaching itself in the SoftPC window can sometimes be a problem since it
doens't seem to always work the way the documentation says it should.
Lastly, I don't like the fact that you have to set things up in the SoftPC
preferences panel when they have already been set up for NEXTSTEP (like serial
ports, printers, etc). It just serves to confuse, and hopefully they will
make things more transparent to the user in the next release.
> - does the networking stuff work (only Novell, right?)
Haven't checked it out, but it is not trivial to set up from what I have seen.
But what in Windows _is_ trivial? :)
Eric
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener 3.1.3 bug?
Date: 25 May 1994 17:03:37 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s00d9$4q4@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2rt9un$ser@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes:
> I guess I have a similar complaint, all I want it to do is compress
> a file and put it where the original was, and delete the original.
...
> and yes, I admit, I am a newbie to Opener....
I like Opener a lot for uncompressing archives -- just double-click
on the file and it pops up.
For compressing something, I prefer to use the Archive services
that are a part of TickleServices. In the above case, you'd
just select the file in the File Viewer, and then select menu
item Services/Archive/Archive
or maybe Services/Archive/Archive To...
You can get a fully-functional version of TickleServices on
the standard anonymous FTP sites. The current version is on
ftp.cs.orst.edu in directory /pub/next/demos/programming, for
instance. Pick up files
TickleServices1.1.README
and TickleServices1.1.compressed
Sidenote: Once you get it installed, you should double-click
the "Tickle Services.ts" file (that comes with it) and change
the name of the "TickleServices/Format // Comment" so it does
not have the double-slash in the name.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on colorstation sloooowwww
Date: 25 May 1994 17:16:49 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2s0161$7ea@rosie.next.com>
References: <CqCHpn.9Gq@trwlasd.com>
In article <CqCHpn.9Gq@trwlasd.com> jfr@trwlasd.com writes:
> Mark T. Dornfeld writes
> > doko@cs.tu-berlin.de writes:
> > I have forgotten the exact details, but FM boots up in monochrome mode
> > which results in a poorly aligned frame buffer in the colour systems and
> > produces slow screen writes. (Is this right?)
> >
> > Anyway, just drop a colour element into the document and presto!
> > everything just sings since FM now is using colour mode which matches up
> > nicely with the system.
> >
> > Most of my standard FM templates now have a hidden colour element in
> > them somewhere, so I don't have this problem very often.
>
> This indeed may be ONE source of the problem, but I have also noticed
> that the problem only occurs when I have the borders displayed. When
> I turn off borders, the cursor keeps up with my typing. I believe
> I have noticed this on monochrome systems as well.
Under some conditions, Frame promotes its screen windows to store alpha
information, which kills display performance.
When this happens, the performance penalty on a nextstation color is less for a
color window plus alpha then a two bit window plus alpha, because in the color
case you're flushing 16 bit data (12 bits color + 4 bits alpha) to a 16 bit
frame buffer (where 4 bits are ignored).
As long as you don't promote on-screen windows to store alpha (which you never
want to do, and is easy to fix at the source level) there is very little
performance difference between displaying a two bit window or a 12 bit window
to a color screen; the color window has the advantage of a simpler flush, the
2 bit has the advantage of using less memory and drawing into fewer bits, and
the flush routines are highly optimized. It's rather a wash, though it's nice
to save the memory if you can.
-sam
--
Opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer. They're not even
mine. They're probably wrong besides. How did they get in here, anyway?
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ZIP for the NeXT
Date: 25 May 1994 18:39:46 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2s061i$n6j@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2rtteu$s28@gateway.wiltel.com> <CqCCqp.Ers@cunews.carleton.ca>
>> I, in fact, use Info-ZIP's zip/unzip in DOS as well (Info-ZIP is
>> distributed as source, that compiles under both UNIX and DOS and
>> others), since it is every bit as good (features and speed) as PK, but free.
Well, almost as good in speed under MSDOS. Slightly better compression
though. It also compiles on VMS, Atari, Amiga, OS/2, TOPS20, NT, Mac,
and Human68K (whatever that is).
Info-zip's zip was originally developed (by me) on a NeXT.
mark
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OPENSTEP FOR SOLARIS (versus NeXTSTEP 3.2)
Date: 25 May 1994 18:41:20 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s064g$nb6@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2rvpt2$aa2@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
Mark Anenberg writes
> Actually, since that paper was written there have been changes.
> The current OpenStep spec does NOT include the MachKit. (This
> does not preclude NeXT, for example, from providing the MachKit;
> It just means that is not part of the base API). In fact,
> all references to Mach specific types have been removed from the
> API. Thread support will be there via a new foundation class.
> How the support is implemented is OS dependent. NeXTs version
> may use cthreads and Mach kernel threads. Suns would be likely
> to use the Solaris threads library and/or LWP's.
Thanks for the information. That sounds like a very good idea.
What this sounds like, though, is that OpenStep will be *different*
than NeXTSTEP 3.2, rather than merely a subset. Which is fine, but
different that what NeXT originally said. I presume this means that
only NeXTSTEP 3.3 will actually be "OpenStep compliant".
Can anybody confirm this? Complaints should go to advocacy...
- Ernie P.
--
Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics
Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu
"...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b
#import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Kong.app question
Date: 25 May 1994 20:05:56 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s0b34INN37d@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
Is anyone playing Kong.app. Even thought the player and the
dragons are little ovals, I find it fairly challenging. Well, so
challenging that I can't get past the fourth level. I can't see any way
to get the two in the "cave"(?) If anyone can offer any suggestions, I
would like to hear them.
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!'
Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
From: stef@rs1.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE (Stefan Ried)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Automatic killing of EmacsBuffers?
Date: 25 May 1994 19:17:59 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <2s0897$256m@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Keywords: Emacs for NS4.0
Emacs for NS 4.0 is a really nice port of Emacs 19.
Lots of Emacs-Questions were discussed in this news.group since EamcsfNS4.0 was
released. As a old Emacs-user I'd like to metion the existence of the groups
gnu.emacs.help
and the other gnu.emacs.ž groups which are the forum for common emacs-lisp and
installation-questions.
Nevertheless I'v got a NS specific question. It's nice to use Emacs as the
Default Service of the Workspace with
dwrite Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs
But if you click in the right titel-buttom to delete the Emacs-frame and
the corresponding NS-window the emacs-buffer is still remaining in Emacs.
Would'n it be better to link the buttom-event to a
kill-buffer and delete-frame
function.
Can this be done in the .emacs ?
stef
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordProcessor for manuals
Date: 25 May 94 20:38:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.769898304@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <2rsg8r$t0d@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> <CqB6wA.2C8@cunews.carleton.ca>
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes:
>Definitely look at Pages by Pages. (I don't know about the auto indexing,
>though...)
Last I saw, it didn't do auto indexing or TOC generation,
unfortunately. Has this changed? Any word on being able to create
one's own format layouts (when this other app will be out, how much it
will cost, etc.)?
>If you're on black hardware, also consider FrameMaker
Unfortunately, Frame has not supported Frame/NS (and will not, last I
heard from them), although it does have a majority of the features on
the original poster's requirement list.
If only some features of Frame could be combined with Pages you could
have a single supported app in which you could create and edit
layouts, and have automated indexing & TOC generation and handle large
documents across many files.
--
No NeXTmail please
From: ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu (H. Paul Hammann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Viewing graphics in pine under NeXTSTEP?
Date: 25 May 1994 18:50:04 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s06la$kba@golf.ustores.missouri.edu>
Keywords: pine, mail
I have installed pine on a cluster of networked NeXTs. (Black
hardware, 3.2 OS) For some reason I can't seem to be able to view things.
(Like MIME encoded GIFs included in the message) I tried specifying a
variety of programs on the image-viewer line in the configuration file but
all I get when trying to view are errors.
Here is one line I tried.
> # Program to view images if format such as GIF and TIFF
> image-viewer=/usr/bin/open
>
Any help, hints, or pointers would be appreciated!
--
H. Paul Hammann
assistant NeXT system administrator
ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Automatic killing of EmacsBuffers?
Date: 25 May 1994 23:34:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2s0na3$80e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2s0897$256m@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <2s0897$256m@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
stef@rs1.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE (Stefan Ried) writes:
> Would'n it be better to link the buttom-event to a
>
> kill-buffer and delete-frame
>
> function.
> Can this be done in the .emacs ?
>
> stef
I'd agree, this would be nice. On a (perhaps) related point, I've noticed
that Emacs quits when you close the sole window, a behavior which isn't
very NeXT-like. This is sort of interesting, since delete-frame gives an
error message ("Attempt to delete only frame") if you try the same thing.
Could this behavior be modified in future releases? Or is it possible to
do it in the .emacs too.
-jamey.
From: rosewang@menudo.uh.edu (Rose Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.chinese.text.big5,alt.chinese.text,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: CHINAware input methods help
Date: 26 May 1994 00:23:35 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2s0q67$2bq@masala.cc.uh.edu>
I recently got CHINAware, a Chinese system for NeXTSTEP installed on my
machine. But unfortunately, I don't know any of the input methods it
provides (CangJie, Simplified, Phonetics or ZhuYinFuHao, etc). I suppose
I can call Diginfo, but they are based in Taiwan and they don't have
an email address listed anywhere. Does any one know where I can find
some FAQ's for these input methods?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Rose Wang
P.S. I don't normally read these news groups, so could you pleeeeaaase
email me instead of posting your response? Thank you.
From: beacker@sgi.com (Brad Eacker)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.xbase.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: app to read .dbf or dbase files ?
Date: 26 May 1994 01:57:12 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Sender: Brad Eacker <beacker@sgi.com>
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s0vlo$g81@fido.asd.sgi.com>
References: <Cq0tBE.KLw@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU> <940523.021236.2Y0.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>
>buster@spot.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster) writes:
>
>> is there an app available to read PeeCee dbase files, .dbf's I think ?
>> we have some data that we've been using a Mac and Excel to convert.
>
>what format do you want them in? I've got some old code (from '88)
>that has been pulled back into service at work lately, so I know it's
>functional.
There is a set of routines that went out in comp.sources.misc
volume 40 issue 73, that I wrote. There will probably be a new set
coming out with bug fixes and an sql parser in short order (Real Soon
Now).
Brad Eacker (beacker@sgi.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Automatic killing of EmacsBuffers?
In-Reply-To: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU's message of 25 May 1994 23:34:27 GMT
To: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May25211042@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2s0897$256m@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <2s0na3$80e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 01:10:41 GMT
In article <2s0na3$80e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) writes:
I'd agree, this would be nice. On a (perhaps) related point, I've noticed
that Emacs quits when you close the sole window, a behavior which isn't
very NeXT-like. This is sort of interesting, since delete-frame gives an
error message ("Attempt to delete only frame") if you try the same thing.
Could this behavior be modified in future releases? Or is it possible to
do it in the .emacs too.
The reason that this annoying behavior persisted is too complicated
to explain. However this last complaint was just one too many. From
Emacs 4.04 on (Emacs 4.03 based on GNU Emacs 19.24 went out to the
testers today) Emacs will just refuse to close the last window by
hitting the window close button.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Automatic killing of EmacsBuffers?
In-Reply-To: stef@rs1.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE's message of 25 May 1994 19:17:59 GMT
To: stef@rs1.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE (Stefan Ried)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May25211836@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2s0897$256m@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 01:18:36 GMT
In article <2s0897$256m@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> stef@rs1.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE (Stefan Ried) writes:
Emacs for NS 4.0 is a really nice port of Emacs 19.
Lots of Emacs-Questions were discussed in this news.group since EamcsfNS4.0 was
released. As a old Emacs-user I'd like to metion the existence of the groups
gnu.emacs.help
and the other gnu.emacs.groups which are the forum for common
emacs-lisp and installation-questions.
Absolutely. About half the questions about Emacs for NS I receive are
not really related to the NS version. Asking such questions on
gnu.emacs.help is much better as it both is more likely to get you an
accurate answer quickly and leaves me with more time to add features
to Emacs for NS or fix bugs in it. If unsure about some sort of
misbehavior just try repeating it under a dumb terminal or X. If it
happens under these environments as well, it is very likely not NS
related.
But if you click in the right titel-buttom to delete the Emacs-frame and
the corresponding NS-window the emacs-buffer is still remaining in Emacs.
Would'n it be better to link the buttom-event to a
kill-buffer and delete-frame
function.
Can this be done in the .emacs ?
Unfortunately it can't. Hitting the close button has not been an
elisp visible event under NS since alpha4 or so because it isn't under
X. The best solution would be a delete-window-hook for which you'll
have to lobby RMS. Good luck !
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: gopher, irc, binaries - where?
Message-ID: <CqE6K5.FBr@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <2rtn6b$pgq@mailer.fsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 04:16:52 GMT
In article <2rtn6b$pgq@mailer.fsu.edu> dekorte@ibm19.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen L. DeKorte)
writes:
| Anyone know where I can ftp NeXT(black) binaries for some
| Unix utilities like:
|
| IRC
| gopher
| www
|
| Thanks,
| Steve
look at cs.orst.edu [128.193.32.1]
or ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de [129.187.249.15]
did't see a ready to run binary for irc, but should be on different
ftp-site, perhaps in the sun-directories. Take the source an cc it.
Gopher pretty much the same thing, called Gopher.app.
WWW is for example WorldWideWeb.app (but has beta-status)
nice greetings from Munich - Germany
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel email_____________________________
Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de
81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Address Book with NS 3.2
Message-ID: <CqE8vE.IHw@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: Does 3.2 or earlier come with an address book application
Keywords: Address Book Software
Sender: David Bradford
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 05:06:49 GMT
Wanted to know: Is there an address book application/Database included
with NS 3.2 or earlier?
Thanks
D Bradford
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Soft PC data ---- performance and compatibility ???????
Date: 25 May 1994 21:31:47 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2s0cjj$c7f@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CqC685.6C1@monitor.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
shawn@monitor.com writes:
>i'm trying to connect with some people who have used or are using SoftPC on
>NS/Intel on a regular basis to reality-check it's capabilities.
>specifically, i'd like to know:
> - what apps (or class of apps) DON'T work
Access 1.1
In general, all apps that need Windows enhanced mode won't work.
> - what is performance really like
Performance with e.g. Excel 5 or WinWord 6 is quite OK.
> - does the networking stuff work (only Novell, right?)
I played a bit with it and it worked, but I didn't need it, so I made
no further investigations.
Markus.
--
/dev/ Markus Wenzel
/usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
/etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart
/bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.admin
Subject: Re: Serial driver broken in NS 3.2
Date: 25 May 1994 12:52:24 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2rve5o$bqk@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2rs19r$o2i@news.iastate.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: serial,driver,ns,NS,NeXTSTEP
chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes:
>The serial driver in NS 3.2 has broken again.
Why again? This is a known bug/problem since the release of 3.2.
>Anyone got a fix?
Get the Mux driver by ftp.
>Does it imply that I cannot send FAX/DATA at higher than 9600bps?
With the original NeXT serial driver: yes.
With Mux, you can go for any rate you want, it just works fine for
me at 38400/16800 -> 2000 cps effective throughput.
Markus.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Subject: Gif Viewer
Message-ID: <1994May26.064340.14395@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: Gif
Sender: news@hydra.acs.ttu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Texas Tech University
Date: Thu, 26 May 94 06:43:40 GMT
Can somebody point me to a gif viewer that will compile or is compiled for
NSIntel. I want to see the weather maps in Weather.app. Thanks!
Alan
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fsp software
Date: 26 May 1994 09:41:52 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2s1qt0$oh@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2rpcf1$i5u@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
In article <2rpcf1$i5u@gap.cco.caltech.edu> on@cco.caltech.edu
(Oscar J. Nelson) writes:
>Is there a native fsp client for the NeXT? Preferably one with a graphic
>interface. I'm always looking for new ways to toy with the net.
We were originally planning to include this as part of RBrowser,
but FSP has since degenerated into little more than a haven for
crackers and pirates, and this functionality is therefore no
longer considered politically acceptable. I expect to remove all
references to FSP before the 1.0 Release.
Convince me there's *any* socially redeeming value in FSP, and
things can change. One of the "complaints" about RBrowser has
been that it doesn't provide access to something like anonymous
FTP; unfortunately, FTP really isn't workable, and while FSP
initially seemed like an ideal substitute, it's about as welcome
as assault weapons on a schoolyard playground.
-=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for: psh, Jot
Date: 26 May 1994 10:54:52 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2s1v5s$2sc@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2rsbtt$grs@denwa.info.com>
In article <2rsbtt$grs@denwa.info.com> michael@stb.info.com
(Michael Gersten) writes:
>The two programs are: psh, which opens a connection to the window
>server for interactive, real-time, 2-way postscript (YAP is only one
>way, non-interactive);
You got that someplace else. What's wrong with pft?
> and Jot, which copies standard input into a
>date-named file and then adds it to a digital librarian index. (Joy may
>have depended on the 2.X librarian index file format, so it may have
>been removed for that reason).
Not exactly. It didn't know anything about index file formats;
it called system() to run /usr/lib/indexing/ixBuild.
-=EPS=-
--
I remember the Jot _application_!
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What is FSP
Date: 26 May 1994 11:48:49 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s22b1$800@network.ucsd.edu>
-=EPS=- wrote:
FSP initially seemed like an ideal substitute, it's about as welcome
as assault weapons on a schoolyard playground.
************************************************************************
I use FTP+ daily. What is FSP?
Murshid
From: wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr (fabrice wendling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Driver for HP DESKJET 500
Date: 26 May 1994 13:15:29 GMT
Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France
Message-ID: <2s27dh$am5@news.univ-rennes1.fr>
Does anybody know if a software driver for a HP Deskjet 500 is available
for NeXT Step system V3.2. My machine is a DECpc MTE 466d2.
Thanks.
From: wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr (fabrice wendling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HP DESKJET 500 driver for NSIntel v3.2
Date: 26 May 1994 13:21:23 GMT
Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France
Message-ID: <2s27oj$asc@news.univ-rennes1.fr>
Does anybody know if it is possible to find the driver for a HP Deskjet
500 printer running under NeXTSTEP V3.2 for Intel ?
Thanks !
Fabrice
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.tcl
Subject: expect-5.7 and tclX7.3a
Date: 26 May 1994 13:49:03 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2s29cf$6r@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
I have tcl7.3 and tk3.6p1 working correctly under NEXTSTEP 3.2. I thought
I finally made the right modifications to get expect-5.7 working, but the
testsuite gave me a problem. Is it just a side-effect to the scan and
format problems in tcl, or is it more serious? I'm new to tcl and expect
so I really don't know. The error follows:
make test
( echo cd ./tests\; source all ) | ./expect -
cat.test
expect.test
==== pid-1.3 exact pattern failure
==== Contents of test case:
expect "*"
send "hiahi\r"
set timeout 10
set x 0
expect -ex hi {set x 1}
expect -ex hi {set x 2}
expect -ex hi {set x 3}
set x
==== Result was:
3
---- Result should have been:
2
---- pid-1.3 FAILED
pid.test
spawn.test
stty.test
I've also got tclX7.3a. I think this may take some work. Anybody who has
it working under NEXTSTEP 3.2 please let me know. Are you using this
Robert?
--
Paul M. Cardon
President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG)
NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager
Math Department - Brigham Young University
DOS - The Ultimate Blivet
From: kiwi@next2032.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 26 May 1994 14:38:25 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s2c91$1um@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: zyxel answering machine fax data call
Well, it seems that my first post didn't make it out, so here we go again:
SUBMISSION
I uploaded am.1.16.s.tar.gz to ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
The complete path is:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs/am.1.16.s.tar.gz
am is an Answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
and computers running the NeXTSTEP operating system.
am was originally written by Patrick Stein <jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de>.
This is am.1.16 which adds ADPCM_3 support (much better sound quality)
and some bug fixes.
NOTE (what I was told after the upload):
----------------------------------------
For people running a version of NeXTSTEP < 3.2:
In src/am.h, change the string B38400 to EXTB. It should compile fine
then.
--
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From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 26 May 1994 15:21:16 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2s2epc$c09@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <2s2c91$1um@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Keywords: zyxel answering machine fax data call
In article <2s2c91$1um@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@next2032.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes:
>/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs/am.1.16.s.tar.gz
>am is an Answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
>and computers running the NeXTSTEP operating system.
>am was originally written by Patrick Stein <jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de>.
I don't know about anyone else, but I would really like to see a public
domain fax driver package that works with the SupraFax modem! I don't
need all the fancy answering machine stuff, just a send/receive fax driver
that doesn't cost $135. :)
Eric
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 26 May 1994 16:50:31 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s2k0n$mfb@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
References: <2s2c91$1um@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <2s2epc$c09@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: zyxel answering machine fax data call
I for one would like to see a public domain class 1 fax modem driver...
all I have on my NeXT is Class 2 and they don't work with my class 1
fax modem
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--------Be excellent to each other--------
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dashed lines in FrameMaker
Date: 26 May 1994 09:56 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26MAY199409560951@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Am I missing something or are dashed lines (with solid arrowheads, please)
not readily available in FrameMaker (for NeXT).
Don
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: jacobsen@arundel.doit.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HP DESKJET 500 driver for NSIntel v3.2
Date: 26 May 1994 16:55:05 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <2s2k99$hkl@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <2s27oj$asc@news.univ-rennes1.fr>
In article <2s27oj$asc@news.univ-rennes1.fr> wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr
(fabrice wendling) writes:
> Does anybody know if it is possible to find the driver for a HP Deskjet
> 500 printer running under NeXTSTEP V3.2 for Intel ?
> Thanks !
> Fabrice
Get the djf_for_3.0.tar.Z file from cs.orst.edu or sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
It contains a driver that will allow you to use a Deskjet 500 with NeXT or
Intel hardware. I suspect that this driver will even work with HP
workstations. Send me email or post again if you have any difficulty
installing it.
-E
---
Erik Jacobsen
jacobsen@cae.wisc.edu
From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cirrus PCI 5428 Color drivers?
Date: 26 May 1994 16:54:29 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s2k85$qtj@zippo.uwasa.fi>
I have 2 Mb Cirrus PCI 5428 and I want to use it with NS/PC and see
those wonderful colours... How can I get there? When/where are the
drivers to use with this card?
-harri-
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///// WasaWare Oy Ab, Palosaarentie 23-25, FIN-65200 Vaasa, Finland
///// Telephone: +358 61 317 3365 fax: +358 61 317 3025
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,fr.comp.sys.next
From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye)
Subject: ATI Ultra Pro driver -> extremely slow graphics (!?)
Message-ID: <1994May26.151907.15453@imag.fr>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@imag.fr
Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 15:19:07 GMT
Hello,
I have two PCs with NEXTSTEP at our lab:
1. A Dell 450 DE/2 DGX (DX2 50), Jaws graphic card
2. A "no-mark" PC (DX2 66), ATI Ultra Pro graphic card
which both have 32Mb/1Gb memory. The problem is that while the Dell has really
fast graphics performance, the other one is dramatically slow (flickers when
moving windows even while idle, bouncing login panel extremely slow, etc...).
Despite trying to change the driver (provided to 3.2) configuration, or even
changing to 'ATI On-board' driver (with no success and no screen after the
change!) I cannot figure what's going wrong.
Does anybody have experienced the same problems, or have I idea about what to
do?
Thanks in advance,
Yves.
--
Advocates for the C++ school claim that a well designed Yves Arrouye
program does not need the extra flexibility (a lie), Yves.Arrouye@imag.fr
while advocates for the Objective-C school claim that (33) 76 57 48 64
the errors are no problem in practice (another lie). NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov)
Subject: OmniWeb for NS 2.x?
Message-ID: <1994May26.162950.23646@iitmax.iit.edu>
Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News)
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Thu, 26 May 94 16:29:50 GMT
This may be a dumb question, but is there a place I can
pick up OmniWeb executables that will run under NS 2.x
(black). Any other NeXTified Webs for NS 2.x?
Thanks!
----
Boyan Boyanov
boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Subject: Re: Opener 3.1.3 bug?
Message-ID: <1994May26.190049.16354@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
References: <2rt9un$ser@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 19:00:49 GMT
In article <2rt9un$ser@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes:
> Eric Thompson (thompson@netcom.com) wrote:
> : Opener _always_ uses /tmp the first time it starts up. It
subsequently
> : uses the directory defined in the Preferences panel. However, this
does
My complaint is that now Opener is messaged when I try to preview a
print file. I used to get Preview.app. How do I stop having Opener
get the message (and fail of course)?
- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov)
Subject: Lynx 2.3 on a black next
Message-ID: <1994May26.181020.19905@iitmax.iit.edu>
Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News)
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Thu, 26 May 94 18:10:20 GMT
Hi!
Yesterday I downloaded the latest version of Lynx (2.3) from the
ukans distribution site and compiled it on a black next running
NS 2.1 (make next). If you don't count the warning messages
about unused variables and incompatible pointer passing everything
went smoothly.
However, when I launched Lynx a very annoying problem showed up:
ALL links are block-highlighted. This is especially annoyng
on screens with large concentration of links, where a significant
portion of the screen is block-highlighted (in blue on color
monitors). Every other machine I have used Lynx on the
links are grayed (on grayscale monitors) or magenta and
are block-highlighted (in blue) only when selected.
Does anybody know how/if I can fix the problem? I tried using
all avaliable CHARACTER_SETs in lynx.cfg and recompiling
with SHOW_CURSOR set to TRUE and FALSE to no avail. I also
tried to make next-ncurses but the make failed because
the compiler could not find <ncurses.h>. Is ncurses a
NS 3.x thingy?
Please reply by email - thanks!
----
Boyan Boyanov
boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
From: pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com (Ronald Pepper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Targa?
Date: 26 May 1994 20:48:10 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Corporation
Message-ID: <2s31ua$t9d@uudell.us.dell.com>
Anybody know of any image displayer that will work with targa format
files?
Thanks in advance,
Ron.
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From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Subject: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <CqFGz2.1Dun@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 20:59:26 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Keywords: fortran hp hpns nextstep
hi
someone posted a while ago that NAG (Numerical Algorithms Group)
probably had a fortran compiler that would function on HP's
running NeXTSTEP. since the beta is out and release is around
the corner and we program in fortran, i gave NAG a call to find
out more.
i was told that they do not have a compiler that will run under
NeXTSTEP on HP systems and they did not know if one was in the
works...
just to let those of you fortran-NeXTSTEP-hp-ites know...
if someone knows of a company producing an above compiler,
please post or email me. i'll summarize (if there is anything
to summarize).
thanks!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Automatic killing of EmacsBuffers?
Date: 26 May 1994 21:38:21 GMT
Organization: welcome to nowhere...
Message-ID: <CHRIS.94May26233821arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
References: <2s0897$256m@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In-reply-to: stef@rs1.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE's message of 25 May 1994 19:17:59 GMT
Originator: ARKIN@nice
In article <2s0897$256m@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> stef@rs1.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE (Stefan Ried) writes:
> But if you click in the right titel-buttom to delete the Emacs-frame and
> the corresponding NS-window the emacs-buffer is still remaining in Emacs.
> Would'n it be better to link the buttom-event to a
>
> kill-buffer and delete-frame
>
> function.
> Can this be done in the .emacs ?
Try adding the following to your .emacs file, it won't kill the buffer
if you use the close button, but it will kill the buffer if you use
cmd-w (just like Edit)
===
;; more Edit.app like delete-frame
(define-key global-map [?\s-w]
'(lambda () (interactive)
(let ((thisbuf (current-buffer)))
(kill-this-buffer)
(if (not (equal thisbuf (current-buffer)))
(delete-frame)))))
===
christian
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener 3.1.3 bug? - useful workaround
Date: 26 May 1994 23:23:19 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s3b17$coh@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1994May26.190049.16354@ornl.gov>
woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) writes:
> stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes:
> > Eric Thompson (thompson@netcom.com) wrote:
> > : Opener _always_ uses /tmp the first time it starts up. It
> > : subsequently uses the directory defined in the Preferences
> > : panel. However, this does not...
>
> My complaint is that now Opener is messaged when I try to preview
> a print file. I used to get Preview.app. How do I stop having
> Opener get the message (and fail of course)?
I too see no reason for opener to pick up ".ps" files, which the
workspace was handling just fine. On the other hand, thanks to
the wonders of the NeXTSTEP user environment, it's easy to get
around this problem.
In the Workspace, select some file that has a suffix of ".ps",
and then select menu item "Tools/Inspector...". The panel that
comes up includes a pop-up menu. Switch that menu to the section
marked "Tools". [note that you can also get here by just hitting
command-3 while you're in the workspace].
The tools panel will show you all applications that claim they
can open a ".ps" file. Select the one you want to use (Preview).
Select it, don't double-click on it. Then click on the "Set
Default" button on that panel. This tools panel is also useful
when you just want to open a file in some application other than
the default one. In that case you can bring up the panel and
just double-click on the application which you want to open
that file. (Double-clicking *opens* the file(s) using that app,
it does not set any default for the file(s) in question).
Just another one of those little reasons why I prefer the NeXTSTEP
user interface over any other...
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel)
Subject: help with TipTop and ncftp
Message-ID: <1994May26.234256.5571@cs.rit.edu>
Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin)
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 23:42:56 GMT
I have installed TipTop 1.02 and it works. I can use tsch and
ncftp starts up and will let me connect. tsch does
display this error, anyone know what it means? :
Remote: term 1.12
tty /dev/ttyp6. Exec -csh
/dev/ttyp6: Not owner
Also, when I use ncftp, i cannot do a ls or dir, as this message
comes up. Please help.
ncftp error message for ls :
ncftp>ls
PASV command not implemented.
cs.orst.edu:/pub/next
AND
ncftp>dir
PASV command not implemented.
cs.orst.edu:/pub/next
Thanks
HN
From: eugene@nshade (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Modems and SoftPC
Date: 27 May 1994 00:52:12 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2s3g7s$euk@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Hi,
Can anyone out there tell me how to get a modem working with
SoftPC? We're running SoftPC 2.0 (Release 2.05.5). We had
SoftPC working with a modem once, but nobody around here can
remember what had to be done to get it to work.
Insignia Solutions people, are you out there? :)
Thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: MAB version of tin?
Message-ID: <1994May27.005214.17684@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 00:52:14 GMT
I recently downloaded tin (a news reader). Does anyone know if a i486/m68k FAT
version of the binary exists anywhere?
Thanks.
--brad
--
Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Date: 27 May 1994 02:55:34 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s3nf6$539@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <CqFGz2.1Dun@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <CqFGz2.1Dun@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes:
> someone posted a while ago that NAG (Numerical Algorithms Group)
> probably had a fortran compiler that would function on HP's
> running NeXTSTEP...
> i was told that they do not have a compiler that will run under
> NeXTSTEP on HP systems and they did not know if one was in the
> works...
I wonder if Absoft will port their fortran compiler
to NEXTSTEP/HP systems? They ported to NEXTSTEP/Intel,
but I haven't seen anyone around here (lots of fortran
users) running NEXTSTEP/Intel and Absoft fortran.
Some of the local science programmers in my user group
where lamenting the lack of attention paid to such details
that would keep the scientific community interested in
NEXTSTEP. Of course, they don't fit into the MCCA financial
markets, such I guess they are irrelevant ;-)
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help with EMACS question - termcap
Date: 26 May 1994 23:37:35 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <2s44ff$pji@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <1994May6.114058.17605@umiami.ir.miami.edu> <1994May12.090720.17640@umiami.ir.miami.edu> <BYER.94May13110007@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
In article <BYER.94May13110007@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>,
Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com> wrote:
>>> When I put up a shell and connect to the outside world, I get a message
>>> about termcap not being able to read the proper configuration. Also,
>>> when I then telnet to another computer, at best, I get control characters
>>> showing up - like ^M.
>
>While not the prettiest thing to do, I end up setting up a filter proc for
>all my shell processes. Most of the reason to do this is to do escape-based
>information communication between the subshell and Emacs (it's amazing how
>reliable "cd" can really be :-). But, I've also added code to strip out
>those gunky characters.
>
There's a better solution. From my .bashrc (or something similar for .cshrc)
if [ $TERM = "emacs" ];
then stty -echo nl;echo 'emacs';
fi
You don't really need the echo 'emacs' at the end. i just used it long ago to
tell me that it was resetting the tty. that makes the ^M 's go away.
-nick
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Date: 27 May 1994 07:10:48 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s46do$jfm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <2s3nf6$539@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Keywords: f77,HP
In article <2s3nf6$539@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> In article <CqFGz2.1Dun@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
> kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes:
>
> > someone posted a while ago that NAG (Numerical Algorithms Group)
> > probably had a fortran compiler that would function on HP's
> > running NeXTSTEP...
>
> > i was told that they do not have a compiler that will run under
> > NeXTSTEP on HP systems and they did not know if one was in the
> > works...
>
> Some of the local science programmers in my user group
> where lamenting the lack of attention paid to such details
> that would keep the scientific community interested in
> NEXTSTEP. Of course, they don't fit into the MCCA financial
> markets, such I guess they are irrelevant ;-)
GeeeZZZ. I run f2c's f77 on over 60 NeXT's here, and have compiled it on Sun,
DECstations, HP(uxen), and SGI's and have very few complaints. The only
limitation is 15-16 decimal places precision (if users want more they use
DEC Fortran on our VAXen).
1) it's PD, and 2) you get the source, so I can't imagine "not" being able
to compile it on an HP with or without NEXTSTEP.
--
James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab
Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: HELP needed for IBM 1GB 066S12
Message-ID: <CqGCB1.ED@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 08:16:12 GMT
Could anybody explain me exactly, how to connect a IBM 066S12 to black
hardware? I ve heard there should be placed a jumper to asynchron and
changed a firmware-bit with the SCSI-tools. But I don t know, how to do
this.
Thanks for any help
Manfred
--
***************************************************************
* Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de *
* Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 *
* 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 *
* Germany NeXT-mail welcome *
***************************************************************
From: chi@kaiwan.com (LCC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: Pages for Intel
Date: 27 May 1994 01:48:54 -0700
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920)
Message-ID: <2s4c5m$obl@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
I would like to purchase Pages for NS/FIP.
Send your price, detail to chi@kaiwan.com
Thank you.
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is FSP
Date: 27 May 1994 09:41:45 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2s4f8p$kpn@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2s22b1$800@network.ucsd.edu>
It's another way (besides FTP) to provide an anonymous file
service. While it doesn't transfer files as quickly as FTP, a
machine running an FSP server can serve far more clients
simultaneously, with considerably less impact on the server.
FSP newsgroup: alt.comp.fsp
FSP software: ftp.germany.eu.net:pub/network/inet/fsp/
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon)
Subject: NeXTDimension Question
Message-ID: <CqFI37.Iq5@oodis01.hill.af.mil>
Keywords: NextDimension
Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;)
Organization: Hill AFB
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 21:23:30 GMT
I have the following equipment:
NeXTDimension Board w/ color and mono monitors
S-VHS VCR
HI-8mm VTR
I have S-Video cable from the S-VHS VCR to the HI-8 unit, and S-video
cable from the HI-8 unit to the S-video input on the ND board. I can use
both video machines to view recorded video information, but i also want
the capability to hear the audio recordings as well. Does anyone know of
a way to get audio through the mono monitor (or any other way besides
using external speakers attached directly to the video units)?
Please email any responses to the address listed below. Thanks.
Keith Salmon
Aerospace Engineer
United States Air Force
salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (NeXTMail preferred)
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Targa?
Date: 27 May 1994 12:58:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2s4qpg$4ga@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2s31ua$t9d@uudell.us.dell.com>
pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com (Ronald Pepper) writes:
>Anybody know of any image displayer that will work with targa format
>files?
>Thanks in advance,
Yup: PixelMagician from Bacchus (info@bacchus.com). Commercial app, costs $250.
Works great.
BTW, if there's any doubt, I don't work for them or any other NS ISV. I'm
merely a very satisfied customer of NeXT and 3rd-party products.
Cheers,
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others
"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
From: Marco Schumacher <schumach@crpht.lu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.hp.misc
Subject: PacificPage 4 PPD for Mac desperately seeking...
Date: 27 May 1994 14:55:14 GMT
Organization: Centre de Rech.Public - Henri Tudor, Luxembourg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s51ki$1gm@caladan.restena.lu>
References: <2roi81$hmb@news.iastate.edu>
When I start my Installer from the original HP Installation Disk coming
with our brand new JetDirect card (10-Base-T, 10-Base-2, Localtalk) it
says it can't locate the PacificPage 4 v2.5 or the PacificPage 4 PPD file.
OK, but when I use another PPD file from the original disks, I get a
PostScript error out of Word 5.1 with a document containing a graphic.
Text on the other side is printed.
So is this a problem related to the PPD ? And where do I get the right
one ?
The belgian HP-BBS does have PPD's but not the ones coming from Pacific.
We have:
HP LaserJet 4, 8 PPM, 600 DPI, PCL3, Pacific Data PostScript emulation, 6
MB RAM, serial, parallel Serial Nbr:JPBV080080 Jan/93.
PacificPage 4 running version 2.5 of PostScript. (JetAdmin PS test-page)
JetDirect J2552
3 Installer disks J2552-13051,-13061,-13071 Rev. B.00.01 Made in France
Thank you for every piece of information.
Marco Schumacher Projet de recherche CIMOO
Centre de Recherche Public Henri Tudor
6, rue Coudenhove-Kalergi
L-1359 Luxembourg-Kirchberg Europe
From: jclannom@mathlab.mtu.edu (Joe Lannom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with Appsoft Draw (NS 2.2)
Date: 27 May 1994 16:10:10 GMT
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Message-ID: <2s5612$4s@mtu.edu>
Originator: jclannom@next1
Appsoft Draw refuses to launch on a machine that I have, where it will
boot on any of the other machines in the lab.
The only error message I get claims "port backed up", but doesn't
refer to a port name or number.
Once that happens, mach_init seems to choke, and I can't get ANY program
to launch. The icon for Appsoft Draw remains highlit.
Any hints or clues as to what I might do to solve the problem will be
greatly appreciated.
Further information:
040 cube
32 Meg memory.
Printer controller for the lab.
Machines it WILL launch on: 8M, 16M.. with exactly the same applications
and programs already running on all 3 different setups, each freshly
rebooted just in case memory hadn't been deallocated, or the tty's had
been mucked with...
joe lannom
--
jclannom@mathlab.mtu.edu | Michigan Technological University
If you think my opinions represent those of MTU.. Seek help.
>>>-->
When "wide open spaces" brings parking to mind, die.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help with TipTop and ncftp
Date: 27 May 1994 16:39:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s57nn$70f@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <1994May26.234256.5571@cs.rit.edu>
In article <1994May26.234256.5571@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E
Noel) writes:
> Also, when I use ncftp, i cannot do a ls or dir, as this message
> comes up. Please help.
>
> ncftp error message for ls :
> ncftp>ls
> PASV command not implemented.
> cs.orst.edu:/pub/next
>
> AND
>
> ncftp>dir
> PASV command not implemented.
> cs.orst.edu:/pub/next
This is apparently due to cs.orst.edu's version of ftp which doesn't
support the PASV command. If anyone has a workaround, please post it.
Maybe cs.orst.edu could upgrade its ftp version. As it stands, one must
use ftp from one's remote host and then tupload it to the local host, a
2-step process that's certainly not as convenient as using ncftp :-(
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using OmniWeb with term
Date: 27 May 1994 17:02:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s593d$798@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
OK, I want to have some of this WWW fun, too, but I'm
connectivity-challenged :-( My only link to the Internet is via a dial-up
line without SL/IP, PPP, etc. But I do use term with TipTop so I can
redirect remote ports to my local machine. Although I realize that I'm
also bandwidth-challenged so that using OmniWeb might require patience,
I'd at least like to give it a try.
Can someone suggest how to use OmniWeb with term? Can a remote port be
redirected to make this work? If so, what's the port number?
Thanks.
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Message-ID: <1994May27.194929.20624@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
References: <2s2k0n$mfb@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 19:49:29 GMT
In article <2s2k0n$mfb@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora)
writes:
> I for one would like to see a public domain class 1 fax modem driver...
> all I have on my NeXT is Class 2 and they don't work with my class 1
> fax modem
>
That's what happens when you buy the cart before the horse.
Find the software you like/need *then* choose the hardware that works with the
desired software. You'll pay each time you do it the other way around.
Sure, we'd like to see Class 1 fax on NeXTSTEP, but since it ain't there yet,
we'd better be sure to purchase a Class 2 modem, and preferably one with
adaptive answer. Contact Black&White Software (nxfax@bandw.com) to see what
modem's work with their software. THEN buy the modem.
brad.
--
Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CqH7M2.DMI@bldrdoc.gov>
Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
References: <2s46do$jfm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 19:32:25 GMT
jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca writes
> GeeeZZZ. I run f2c's f77...The only
> limitation is 15-16 decimal places precision (if users want more they use
> DEC Fortran on our VAXen).
For scientific work this is enough to make it useless...
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: toon@omnigroup.com (Greg Titus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Targa?
Date: 27 May 1994 19:00:23 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2s5g07$t10@fungusaur.wizards.com>
References: <2s4qpg$4ga@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
weintz steven cortelou writes:
> pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com (Ronald Pepper) writes:
>
> >Anybody know of any image displayer that will work with targa format
> >files?
>
> >Thanks in advance,
>
> Yup: PixelMagician from Bacchus (info@bacchus.com). Commercial app,
costs $250.
> Works great.
>
> BTW, if there's any doubt, I don't work for them or any other NS ISV.
I'm
> merely a very satisfied customer of NeXT and 3rd-party products.
>
> Cheers,
Or you could just go to ftp.omnigroup.com and get OmniImage and
OmniImageFilter for FREE which display and convert between tons of
image formats, including targa.
BTW, I certainly do work for them. :)
Cheers,
-Greg
-------------------------
Greg Titus
toon@omnigroup.com
From: toon@manta.u.washington.edu (Greg Titus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2s5g0d$t11@fungusaur.wizards.com>
Control: cancel <2s5g0d$t11@fungusaur.wizards.com>
Date: 27 May 1994 19:07:32 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2s5gdk$t7r@fungusaur.wizards.com>
References: <2s4qpg$4ga@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
5422 cancelled from NewsGrazer.
From: toon@omnigroup.com (Greg Titus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Targa?
Date: 27 May 1994 19:11:09 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2s5gkd$5m@fungusaur.wizards.com>
References: <2s4qpg$4ga@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
weintz steven cortelou writes:
> pepper@cheetahb.us.dell.com (Ronald Pepper) writes:
>
> >Anybody know of any image displayer that will work with targa format
> >files?
>
> >Thanks in advance,
>
> Yup: PixelMagician from Bacchus (info@bacchus.com). Commercial app,
costs $250.
> Works great.
>
> BTW, if there's any doubt, I don't work for them or any other NS ISV.
I'm
> merely a very satisfied customer of NeXT and 3rd-party products.
Or you can go to ftp.omnigroup.com and pick up OmniImage and
OmniImageFilter for free and display and convert between tons of
different image formats, including Targa.
--Greg
DISCLAIMER: I certainly do work for Omni, but not for any other NS ISV.
(forgive me if you get this more than once - NewsGrazer doesn't like me
today...)
From: a5401gac@c1.edvz.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIDI driver for 486
Date: 27 May 1994 21:17:36 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <2s5o1g$hp5@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
--
-t kind of MIDI drivers are available for NSFIP?
Only for Soundblaster-like cards or also for serial port MIDI-
interfaces? Which MIDI interfaces work fine?
------------------------------------------------------
Lucas Filz Email: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994May27.200938.22278@iitmax.iit.edu>
Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News)
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Fri, 27 May 94 20:09:38 GMT
> [1]Reply to: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
>
[irrelevant stuff deleted]
>GeeeZZZ. I run f2c's f77 on over 60 NeXT's here, and have compiled it on Sun,
>DECstations, HP(uxen), and SGI's and have very few complaints. The only
>limitation is 15-16 decimal places precision (if users want more they use
>DEC Fortran on our VAXen).
>
>1) it's PD, and 2) you get the source, so I can't imagine "not" being able
>to compile it on an HP with or without NEXTSTEP.
Yeah, but f2c is not for number crunchers. You automatically take
a 20% hit in performance and this is a lot of time if your program
takes a few hours or a few days. It is A solution, not a good solution
(at least not for me). Not that Absoft's compiler is something
to write home about, but it is fast...
----
Boyan Boyanov
boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
--
----
Boyan Boyanov
boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn)
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on colorstation sloooowwww
Message-ID: <CqH7tG.GoK@pts.mot.com>
Sender: news@pts.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL
References: <2rfgt6$nq5@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 19:36:52 GMT
Another fix for Frame is to shut off displaying borders/text. Tell Frame
to hide graphics (i.e. the paragraph boxes etc...) This speeds things up a
lot on my color Turbo
Regards,
Stu
--
------------------------------------------------------------
Stuart Hamlyn
Motorola Inc.
Applied Research MS 71
1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue
Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292
From: swiet@fermat.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 27 May 1994 22:07:49 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <2s2c91$1um@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <2s2epc$c09@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In-reply-to: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU's message of 26 May 1994 15:21:16 GMT
In article <2s2epc$c09@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
I don't know about anyone else, but I would really like to see a public
domain fax driver package that works with the SupraFax modem! I don't
need all the fancy answering machine stuff, just a send/receive fax driver
that doesn't cost $135. :)
I wouldn't. I'd like to see it as a working part of NEXTSTEP, where it
belongs. If NeXT is going to have a fax button on the print panel, it
should support some common faxmodems, or a least class 2 properly. I have
a SupraFAXModem v.32bis and black hardware, too.
But if there were a PD fax driver, I'd use it in the meantime. :-)
If anyone's considering writing one, please don't make it RECONFIGURE
the modem and SAVE the new settings every time it starts. That's evil.
And $135 for drivers that should be already PART of NEXTSTEP to aid
a piece of hardware costing about the same price is ludicrous.
This goes for video (on Intel) as well.
If I had bought the edu NS/Intel and found such a lack of drivers for
my hardware, I'd probably have dumped NS and gone with an environment
that did have drivers. Unfortunately, I own a NeXTstation and must
simply do without. I've poured far too much into this discontinued
machine.
I need what money I have left for the next time NeXT bleeds me for an
"upgrade." [Hmm, I wonder what would happen if we all agreed not to buy
3.3 unless it had working fax drivers.]
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help with TipTop and ncftp
Date: 27 May 1994 21:08:52 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May27220852@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994May26.234256.5571@cs.rit.edu> <2s57nn$70f@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
To: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
In-reply-to: art@cubicsol.com's message of 27 May 1994 16:39:19 GMT
<art@cubicsol.com> writes:
>In article <1994May26.234256.5571@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E
>Noel) writes:
>>Also, when I use ncftp, i cannot do a ls or dir, as this message
>>comes up. Please help.
>>
>>ncftp error message for ls :
ncftp>ls
>>PASV command not implemented.
>>cs.orst.edu:/pub/next
>>
>>AND
>>
ncftp>dir
>>PASV command not implemented.
>>cs.orst.edu:/pub/next
> This is apparently due to cs.orst.edu's version of ftp which doesn't
>support the PASV command. If anyone has a workaround, please post it.
>Maybe cs.orst.edu could upgrade its ftp version. As it stands, one must
>use ftp from one's remote host and then tupload it to the local host, a
>2-step process that's certainly not as convenient as using ncftp :-(
On this note, can anybody explain why with ncftp cs.orst.edu is
_particularly_ slow with "ls" requests. I'm talking crawl speed.
ie. regular ftp doesn't experience the same delays.
--
"Real programmers don't create classes. They build heirarchies"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DAT Backup -- can't boot!
Date: 27 May 1994 22:20:26 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2s5rna$3il@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: DAT Exabyte 4200
We have purchased an Exabyte EXB-4200c DAT backup device for our black NeXT.
SafetyNet backup software came with it. However, when we attach it to our
SCSI chain using a unique number (cassette inserted), the next will not boot.
The boot processor says it can't open /dev/rsd1a, /dev/rsd2a, or /dev/rsd0b,
and then "Reboot failed ... help!" Without the DAT attached to the SCSI, it
boots fine.
We are running OS 2.1.
So we can't get to first base with this device. Has anyone else out there
configured this device for their black next. Are we simply lacking device
drivers. If so, where do we get them and how do we install them?
Thanks for your help!
Jim Beauchamp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: marcos@its.com (Marcos J. Polanco)
Subject: Looking for MIME mail reader
Message-ID: <1994May23.234740.6136@its.com>
Sender: usenet@its.com
Organization: Information Technology Solutions
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 23:47:40 GMT
Hello.
I am looking for a MIME-compliant mail application which runs under our favourite operating sys
tem. Please reply by e-mail, as I don't usually hang out here. I'll post if I get a good collection of pointers.
Thanks.
--
Marcos J. Polanco marcos@its.com 312-474-7700, x225
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Beta testers needed for WriteUp 1.1
Message-ID: <1994May27.163531.1300@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 16:35:31 GMT
WriteUp 1.1 is nearing completion, and AFS is looking for a few beta
testers who did not participate in the first cycle. If interested,
please send me an acknowledgement by May 31. This will be a very short
test cycle, because many of the new features and most of the bug fixes
have just been tested in PasteUp 2.5. We will be especially interested
in feedback on mail merge, columns, and RTF/WordPerfect handling. We
expect to send out the beta version by June 3, with final release on
June 20.
An HPPA version will be available. Please specify if you would like that
release, because it will not be part of the standard distribution.
New features include:
Underlining (single, double, word-only)
Strikeout
Redline
Paragraph Default font (strip format overrides)
Show Text Markers (spaces, paragraph end, page break, tabs)
Mail merge
Columns mode (number and gutter width, entire document only)
NeXT-style word selection (ignores punctuation)
"Smart" paste
"Screen" mode to make text display less raggedy while typing
Import WordPerfect 5.1 documents (text formatting, no graphics)
Function/cursor keymaps, to emulate other products
Enhancements include:
Much more robust RTF handling, and 3 times faster!
Much faster text handling, espcially in longer paragraphs
Sub/superscript while typing, not just in selection mode
Paragraph before/after spacing is non-cumulative
Document and Grab Services now supported
Certain panels resized to fit on 640x480 display screens
An assortment of bug fixes for tabs and spell checking
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network
Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer
Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black
Date: 28 May 1994 00:36:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2s63n3$mg2@news.service.uci.edu>
Keywords: panic, DAT, tar
NeXTStation 040 mono, Conner Python 2.0G DAT.
Just got this DAT and was doing as root
gnutar cvf /dev/rst0 /
/ directory contains two NFS mounts on two other machines, two
local disks, total space < 2.0 G byte.
System panics in the middle of gnutar.
The problem seems to be random. I was able to do the tar
with each of the local disks, never seemed to have a panic.
But system occasionally panics when doing tar (or gnutar) with
the NSF mounts. I am running NeXTSTEP 3.2.
System also panicked when I was doing rdump from an SGI Indigo to
the DAT on the NeXT.
When it panics it says (CPU0) bus error.
Any help is appreciated.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-725-3105
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Beta testers needed for WriteUp 1.1
Date: 28 May 1994 00:41:21 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s63vh$15q@inxs.concert.net>
References: <1994May27.163531.1300@afs.com>
In article <1994May27.163531.1300@afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
> New features include:
> Underlining (single, double, word-only)
Great, however, if it only does underlining only under the word and not the
space in between words, it will still be left out of the legal vertical
market...additionally, we still have NO FOOTNOTING/ENDNOTING :-(.
While the product is maturing at quite a rate, it still pays to sell a customer
WordPerfect - for now (I hope)!
The company shows great promise in it's attention to details and bug fixes with
each incremental release. Keep going Greg!
Dave
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Beta testers needed for WriteUp 1.1
Date: 28 May 1994 01:03:50 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s659m$6j6@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2s63vh$15q@inxs.concert.net>
info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) writes:
> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) writes:
>
> > New features include:
> > Underlining (single, double, word-only)
>
> Great, however, if it only does underlining only under the word
> and not the space in between words, it will still be left out
> of the legal vertical market...additionally, we still have NO
> FOOTNOTING/ENDNOTING :-(.
One thing beta-testers will presumably find out is what kind
of underlining is available. I read the above as:
You will have three options for underlining:
1) single underline
2) double underline
3) word-only underlining
> While the product is maturing at quite a rate, it still pays to
> sell a customer WordPerfect - for now (I hope)!
>
> The company shows great promise in it's attention to details and
> bug fixes with each incremental release. Keep going Greg!
I don't understand why you felt like commenting on an unreleased
beta-version (that you haven't even run) to the world at large.
This was a call for beta-testers, not a call for uninformed
criticism.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass)
Subject: Tool for printing .ps files 2 up
Message-ID: <1994May28.011237.29688@cs.sfu.ca>
Organization: Simon Fraser University
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 01:12:37 GMT
Does anyone know of a tool for printing PostScript files two-up or four-up
on the NeXT? Apparently, there's a tool for this on the SUN but I don't
know its name. I'm actually interested in printing FrameMaker files
two-up, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do this.
All/any help appreciated.
Thanks,
- Dan Fass
From: diana@lusty.tamu.edu (Diana)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Beta testers needed for WriteUp 1.1
Date: 28 May 1994 01:38:43 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <2s67b3$dbu@news.tamu.edu>
References: <1994May27.163531.1300@afs.com>
In article <1994May27.163531.1300@afs.com>,
Gregory H. Anderson <Greg_Anderson@afs.com> wrote:
>
>New features include:
<munch>
>
>Enhancements include:
<munch>
>
>--
>Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network
>Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer
Braggart! ;)
Whoo, those stud hombre cybermuffins drive me crazy.
Lusty
--
It should be against the law for anyone born after 1970
to wear tie-dye.
---Stephen K. Baum
From: diana@lusty.tamu.edu (Diana)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Beta testers needed for WriteUp 1.1
Date: 28 May 1994 01:40:35 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <2s67ej$deb@news.tamu.edu>
References: <1994May27.163531.1300@afs.com> <2s63vh$15q@inxs.concert.net>
In article <2s63vh$15q@inxs.concert.net>,
Paradigm Shift Corporation <info@paradigm-shift.com> wrote:
>In article <1994May27.163531.1300@afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
>Anderson) writes:
>
>> New features include:
>> Underlining (single, double, word-only)
>
>Great, however, if it only does underlining only under the word and not the
>space in between words, it will still be left out of the legal vertical
Give me a break! As far as I can tell from that line, word-only
is an _option_, not the only supported method of underlining.
Sheesh
Diana
--
It should be against the law for anyone born after 1970
to wear tie-dye.
---Stephen K. Baum
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Date: 28 May 1994 04:34:52 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2s6hlc$mv4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <1994May27.200938.22278@iitmax.iit.edu>
Keywords: f77
In article <1994May27.200938.22278@iitmax.iit.edu> boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu writes:
> > [1]Reply to: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
> Yeah, but f2c is not for number crunchers. You automatically take
> a 20% hit in performance and this is a lot of time if your program
> takes a few hours or a few days. It is A solution, not a good solution
> (at least not for me). Not that Absoft's compiler is something
> to write home about, but it is fast...
OK OK I give up! PAY for it! If your program takes that long to compile
and run, then you definitely need a Cray, not an HP. Why compile that much
anyway? Generalize the program to accept control files as input. Frequency
of compilation (outside of DEBUG time) is inversely related to program
quality; it's really link time and modularity which are important for large
projects. Compile-and-link with a change made in a small module is much
faster and more desirable than having to do the whole thing each time. And
you're going to be using the system's native linker in any event.
(flame off)
--
James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab
Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
From: jin@atlantis.rutgers.edu (Gavin L. Jin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Has anyone ordered InstantTeX recently?
Message-ID: <May.28.02.28.24.1994.8779@atlantis.rutgers.edu>
Date: 28 May 94 06:28:24 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
I sent the author an email 4 days ago but receive no response yet.
How can I order it? Thanks.
Gavin
From: toon@omnigroup.com (Greg Titus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2s5g0d$t11@fungusaur.wizards.com>
Control: cancel <2s5g0d$t11@fungusaur.wizards.com>
Date: 28 May 1994 06:51:25 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2s6pld$ftg@fungusaur.wizards.com>
From: toon@omnigroup.com (Greg Titus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2s5g07$t10@fungusaur.wizards.com>
Control: cancel <2s5g07$t10@fungusaur.wizards.com>
Date: 28 May 1994 06:52:11 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2s6pmr$ftg@fungusaur.wizards.com>
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: internal error code 1103
Date: 28 May 1994 11:10:45 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2s78rl$rb5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
every once in a while I get a message on my scree:
"internal error code 1103" and it prompts you to logout
because it says you may loose data....
so I logout, actually I usually restart.
This has happened 5 times in the last 2 weeks...
any ideas what it is, how to stop it or correct it?
thanks!
gary
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From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: internal error code 1103
Date: 28 May 1994 07:54:35 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940528134955.19813AACUa.malc@jeeves>
The 1103 error code is defined in <dpsclient/dpsclient.h>, and it means a
generic DPS write error.
> This has happened 5 times in the last 2 weeks... any ideas what it is, how
to stop it
> or correct it?
>
No, I wish...
I was getting it for a while, seemed to have something to do with getting a
new hard disk on the network somewhere, and nfs read/writes slowing. Maybe
setting Preferences to Large File System helped, still don't realy know...
it's gone away now...
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tool for printing .ps files 2 up
Date: 28 May 1994 07:58:04 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940528135335.19813AACUb.malc@jeeves>
> Does anyone know of a tool for printing PostScript files two-up or four-up
> on the NeXT? Apparently, there's a tool for this on the SUN but I don't
> know its name. I'm actually interested in printing FrameMaker files
> two-up, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do this.
>
I presume you're doing this from NEXTSTEP? And you have noticed the Page
Layout panel... the layout box containging the 1-up, 2-up etc pop-up menu...?
Assuming you have, and so this is not the answer to your problem (i.e.
presumably you have PostScript files you want to deal with directly), try
man psnup
NAME
psnup - Print multiple pages on a sheet of paper.
SYNOPSIS
psnup [ -rG ] [ -nnupspec ] [ -Spapersize ] [ -spagesize ] [
-poutputfile ] [ -Pprinter ] [ -dprinter ] [ file ]
DESCRIPTION
psnup reads in a POSTSCRIPT file (or the standard input if
no file is named), and if the input conforms to the
POSTSCRIPT file structuring conventions, provides page rota-
tion, printing of multiple pages on a sheet of paper (n-up
printing), selection of page and paper sizes, and writes the
resulting file on the standard output. The output may be
directed to a file.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for MIME mail reader
Date: 28 May 1994 08:00:55 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940528135619.19813AACUc.malc@jeeves>
> I am looking for a MIME-compliant mail application which runs under our
favourite
> operating system. Please reply by e-mail, as I don't usually hang out here.
I'll post
> if I get a good collection of pointers.
>
For a commercial product supporting MIME and a whole lot else try Eloquent
from Take Three: "For more information about Eloquent, including pricing, an
automatic reply is available from eloquent_info@arissoft.com"
Alternatively wait for NEXTSTEP 3.3... maybe!
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Importance of shrink-wrapped software - (Was: Beta testers needed...)
Date: 28 May 1994 14:16:03 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s7jn3$a4q@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2s659m$6j6@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <2s659m$6j6@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
> I don't understand why you felt like commenting on an unreleased
> beta-version (that you haven't even run) to the world at large.
> This was a call for beta-testers, not a call for uninformed
> criticism.
>
I wouldn't call the criticism "un-informed". Greg placed the fixes/enhancements
out there for all of us to see. Footnoting/Endnoting, which is a large part of
not just the legal but also the academic and other markets, was left off of the
list.
I guess the part of the posting you either didn't read or chose to ignore was
the part about how responsive Greg and his company are about complaints [about
features/bugs] from his customers.
I think you might look at the small picture and how software relates to you,
whereas as resellers we look at what products can serve the customer in the
best manner. In this instance, Greg has placed the ability to import
WordPerfect 5.1 documents into WriteUp, which will tremendously boost it's
usage and it's ability to be sold to customers in some specific market segments
who use WordPerfect currently (although I wonder what will happen if WP 5.1
docs are imported and those docs have footnotes/endnotes?).
What Garance may or may not believe, is that we what WriteUp to be the best
possible word processor it can be and other shrinkwrapped products from other
ISVs to meet or exceed what is on other platforms...so that we can sell
NeXTSTEP offering a viable (read: useable) solution for the ultimate goal:
*** To ensure NeXTSTEP as an operating system flourishes ***
As resellers (and as we only sell and support NeXTSTEP), we have a much larger
stake than most end users in the success or failure of NeXTSTEP, than an
individual end user and we are out on average of six days a week "preaching the
gospel" about NeXTSTEP vs. Windows NT/OS 2.1/DOS/etc.
In closing, I don't happen to feel that criticism of even an un-released beta
version of a piece of software is unjust, specifically unjust when the
publisher of that software placed a list of the feature improvements in his
call for beta tester [and he knew footnoting was a big gripe on the net, after
the first release]. Greg's responsiveness to customers is great, akin to that
of Athena Designs [makers of MESA] and coupling that with his product stable of
WriteUp, PasteUp, and his custom stuff in financials and that make AFS a
dominant player on the NeXTSTEP field.
Dave Briggman
--
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******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 *******
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Date: 28 May 1994 15:22:26 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2s7nji$pfb@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <2s6hlc$mv4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <2s6hlc$mv4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
writes:
> In article <1994May27.200938.22278@iitmax.iit.edu> boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
writes:
> > > [1]Reply to: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
> > Yeah, but f2c is not for number crunchers. You automatically take
> > a 20% hit in performance and this is a lot of time if your program
> > takes a few hours or a few days. It is A solution, not a good
solution
> > (at least not for me). Not that Absoft's compiler is something
> > to write home about, but it is fast...
>
> OK OK I give up! PAY for it! If your program takes that long to
compile
> and run, then you definitely need a Cray, not an HP. Why compile that
much
> anyway?
Hold on, time out. I don't think he was worried so much about the
performance of the compiler, but the performance of the compiled code
itself. We have guys here at BYU who can verify that f2c kills the
optimization of their fortran code under HP-UX which costs them lots of
time when using their code. f2c is just not acceptable for certain uses,
can you understand that? Hopefully the GNU fortran compiler front end will
be finished sometime soon so that we have an acceptable free solution.
Sounds like the only person burned by your flame was you.
--
Paul M. Cardon
President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG)
NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager
Math Department - Brigham Young University
DOS - The Ultimate Blivet
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 12:36:48 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ohtrAUO00iUvM1MScS@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2s63n3$mg2@news.service.uci.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-May-94 panic doing
gnutar with DAT.. by Feng Liu@jedi.eng.uci.ed
> NeXTStation 040 mono, Conner Python 2.0G DAT.
> Just got this DAT and was doing as root
> gnutar cvf /dev/rst0 /
>
> / directory contains two NFS mounts on two other machines, two
> local disks, total space < 2.0 G byte.
>
> System panics in the middle of gnutar.
"If it hurts, don't do it" is a pretty good rule to follow.
I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS
mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted
filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: laurent@caladan.fdn.org (Laurent LECHELLE)
Subject: Millennuim Software Labs: looking for e-mail address
Message-ID: <1994May28.103220.607@caladan.fdn.org>
Sender: laurent@caladan.fdn.org
Organization: No really organized
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 10:32:20 GMT
I am looking for the e-mail address of Millennuim Software Labs which
distributes Engage!.
Thanks for your help.
--
__________________________________________
| |
____| Laurent Lechelle, Courbevoie, France |____
\ | e-mail: laurent@caladan.fdn.org | /
> |__________________________________________| <
/_____> NeXT mail welcomed <_____\
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Tool for printing .ps files 2 up
Message-ID: <1994May28.194610.1093@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994May28.011237.29688@cs.sfu.ca>
Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 19:46:10 GMT
In article <1994May28.011237.29688@cs.sfu.ca> fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass)
writes:
> Does anyone know of a tool for printing PostScript files two-up or
four-up
> on the NeXT? Apparently, there's a tool for this on the SUN but I don't
> know its name. I'm actually interested in printing FrameMaker files
> two-up, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do this.
The command line utility psnup does all this. It also doesn't laike some
FrameMaker files very much, but that is a different problem.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC for NS
Date: 28 May 1994 20:20:26 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s892a$eha@inxs.concert.net>
Anybody know of some sort of chat program called IRC...I hear it's pretty
interesting but know very little aside from that.
Followups would be appreciated.
Dave
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From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tool for printing .ps files 2 up
Date: 28 May 1994 14:40:53 -0700
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
Message-ID: <2s8dp5$smb@triton.ucsd.edu>
References: <1994May28.011237.29688@cs.sfu.ca>
In article <1994May28.011237.29688@cs.sfu.ca> fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) writes:
>Does anyone know of a tool for printing PostScript files two-up or four-up
>on the NeXT? Apparently, there's a tool for this on the SUN but I don't
>know its name. I'm actually interested in printing FrameMaker files
>two-up, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do this.
The tool for this, as well as a number of other interesting
PostScript things (e.g. print selected pages) can be found in
a set of programs called "psutils". An Archie search found
(among others)
Host gatekeeper.dec.com
Location: /.b/usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume39
DIRECTORY dr-xr-xr-x 512 Apr 26 07:04 psutils
carl
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clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tool for printing .ps files 2 up
Date: 28 May 1994 14:46:06 -0700
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
Message-ID: <2s8e2u$sop@triton.ucsd.edu>
References: <1994May28.011237.29688@cs.sfu.ca>
In article <1994May28.011237.29688@cs.sfu.ca> fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) writes:
>Does anyone know of a tool for printing PostScript files two-up or four-up
>on the NeXT?
Oh, I forgot. NS3.2 includes Adobe's version of psnup, the generic
program for "n-up" printing. But there are lots of interesting things
in the psutils package.
carl
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clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu (Dru Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] How can I view GIF's with OmniWeb?
Date: 28 May 1994 22:46:26 GMT
Organization: Florida State University
Message-ID: <2s8hk2$f3r@mailer.fsu.edu>
Hello,
I am running on NS Intel 3.2. How can I view GIF's with
Omniweb when I connect to a site. All I see are the icons.
Do I need to install a service?
Dru
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Importance of shrink-wrapped software - (Was: Beta testers needed...)
Date: 28 May 1994 22:39:37 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s8h79$ar4@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2s7jn3$a4q@inxs.concert.net>
info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) writes:
> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
> > I don't understand why you felt like commenting on an unreleased
> > beta-version (that you haven't even run) to the world at large.
> > This was a call for beta-testers, not a call for uninformed
> > criticism.
> >
> I wouldn't call the criticism "un-informed". Greg placed the
> fixes/enhancements out there for all of us to see. Footnoting
> & Endnoting, which is a large part of not just the legal but
> also the academic and other markets, was left off of the list.
You also took him to task for your perceived implementation of
underlining, which *was* announced, even though you have not
seen the actual implementation in action. I'd say that would
qualify as uninformed criticism.
> I guess the part of the posting you either didn't read or chose
> to ignore was the part about how responsive Greg and his company
> are about complaints [about features/bugs] from his customers.
Well, the message was sending very mixed signals. It wasn't
clear whether you were coming to praise Caesar or to bury him,
given that in the very same article you mentioned that you would
have to recommend that people buy other products over this new
version which we haven't even *seen* yet.
> I think you might look at the small picture and how software
> relates to you, whereas as resellers we look at what products
> can serve the customer in the best manner.
I guess I'm being insulted here. Apparently all the time, money,
and effort that I put into helping NeXTSTEP users from around the
globe means I'm concentrating on "the small picture". In any case,
my comment wasn't a matter of "small picture" vs "big picture".
I simply approached this from a picture of fairness. a) you have
not seen the new version, b) yet you complain that implements
underlining incorrectly. I don't see how it's fair for anyone to
feel like announcing that conclusion to the world on such an
uninformed basis. Let's at least wait until the first day of the
beta-testing period.
> In closing, I don't happen to feel that criticism of even an
> un-released beta version of a piece of software is unjust,
I do.
> Greg's responsiveness to customers is great, akin to that of
> Athena Designs [makers of MESA] and coupling that with his product
> stable of WriteUp, PasteUp, and his custom stuff in financials
> and that make AFS a dominant player on the NeXTSTEP field.
Well, we aren't in completely different worlds, at least. And
certainly the other issues that you mentioned are important ones to
have in a word processor, for many people. Still, if the upcoming
version lives up to the things that *were* listed, I think WriteUp
will be attractive to a much wider market than the initial version
was. As an owner of both WriteUp and PasteUp I find this all
very encouraging.
Certainly this upgrade won't make it the perfect word processor
for all markets, but it's quite a big step in the right direction.
Given AFS's attention to their customers, and obvious dedication
to rapid improvement of WriteUp, I don't think you need to worry
that you must publicly concentrate on missing pieces in order
to "keep them on their toes", or "focus on the big picture" or
whatever it is that you felt you were doing. AFS seems to be
concentrating on the big picture quite well, as near as I can
tell.
[speaking of which, I better start looking for those product
registration cards, so I can prove I qualify for both the
recent PasteUp and upcoming WriteUp upgrades!]
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: cmg@escape.com (Christopher Geyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MouseX for NS?
Date: 29 May 1994 00:51:41 GMT
Organization: Escape ONLINE.
Message-ID: <2s8out$q7p@beyond.escape.com>
Where can I get MouseX or other X software for NeXTSTEP for Intel? Is
there an FTP site where I can get the source for MouseX?
Thanks,
Christopher Geyer
cmg@escape.com
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Importance of shrink-wrapped software - (Was: Beta testers needed...)
Date: 29 May 1994 01:18:15 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s8qgn$i2q@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2s8h79$ar4@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <2s8h79$ar4@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
> You also took him to task for your perceived implementation of
> underlining, which *was* announced, even though you have not
> seen the actual implementation in action. I'd say that would
> qualify as uninformed criticism.
Garance, you are correct on this point, I am not.
> > I guess the part of the posting you either didn't read or chose
> > to ignore was the part about how responsive Greg and his company
> > are about complaints [about features/bugs] from his customers.
>
> Well, the message was sending very mixed signals. It wasn't
> clear whether you were coming to praise Caesar or to bury him,
> given that in the very same article you mentioned that you would
> have to recommend that people buy other products over this new
> version which we haven't even *seen* yet.
AFS is moving quite rapidly on responding to bugs/improvements on their
products, perhaps I was praising and buring at the same time...to me footnoting
is a very important feature missing from this product, a feature missing that
keeps this from being the leader in NS word processing...AFS having an "Alpha"
release running at the Developer's Conference in DC in January is
acknowledgement of the committment Greg has to his products.
>
> > I think you might look at the small picture and how software
> > relates to you, whereas as resellers we look at what products
> > can serve the customer in the best manner.
> I guess I'm being insulted here. Apparently all the time, money,
> and effort that I put into helping NeXTSTEP users from around the
> globe means I'm concentrating on "the small picture". In any case,
> my comment wasn't a matter of "small picture" vs "big picture".
> I simply approached this from a picture of fairness. a) you have
> not seen the new version, b) yet you complain that implements
> underlining incorrectly. I don't see how it's fair for anyone to
> feel like announcing that conclusion to the world on such an
> uninformed basis. Let's at least wait until the first day of the
> beta-testing period.
I try not to insult any NeXTSTEP User for, in my opinion, all NeXTSTEP users
play an integral part in maintaining the platform. I know of your praise for
the platform and I am very appreciate of your efforts along with all other
users of the platform. You along with the institution from which you post are
experienced and knowledgible users of the platform. If what I said came across
as an insult, you have my apology. I will ask AFS for a beta of this new
version.
> > In closing, I don't happen to feel that criticism of even an
> > un-released beta version of a piece of software is unjust,
>
> I do.
You didn't post the rest of my sentence, let's not take what I say out of
context, just to be fair. :-)
> > Greg's responsiveness to customers is great, akin to that of
> > Athena Designs [makers of MESA] and coupling that with his product
> > stable of WriteUp, PasteUp, and his custom stuff in financials
> > and that make AFS a dominant player on the NeXTSTEP field.
>
> Well, we aren't in completely different worlds, at least. And
> certainly the other issues that you mentioned are important ones to
> have in a word processor, for many people. Still, if the upcoming
> version lives up to the things that *were* listed, I think WriteUp
> will be attractive to a much wider market than the initial version
> was. As an owner of both WriteUp and PasteUp I find this all
> very encouraging.
Like I said previously, if all developers were as responsive as AFS were,
Microsoft would be quaking and people wouldn't say "NEC?" instead of NeXT.
Dave Briggman
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Hardware, Software & Peripherals
******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 ********
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: irc.2.03 for Intel ??
Date: 29 May 1994 01:55:03 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s8sln$5v3@eps.rain.com>
Has anyone been able to successfully compile irc.2.03 for Intel? If so,
could you email me your config.h file for a starting point.
--
Steven Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Patiently waiting for solidThinking Evolution
Date: 28 May 1994 20:45:22 -0500
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2s8s3i$bjd@cobber.cord.edu>
dum-de-dum-de-dum, where is it?
What will be the difference between a solidThinking Modeller/Animator
combination and solidThinking Evolution?
--
Jonathan A. Doroin
doroin@cobber.cord.edu
doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Importance of shrink-wrapped software - (Was: Beta testers needed...)
Date: 29 May 1994 06:57:49 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s9edd$lnh@news.bu.edu>
References: <2s8h79$ar4@usenet.rpi.edu> <2s8qgn$i2q@inxs.concert.net>
Paradigm Shift Corporation (info@paradigm-shift.com) wrote:
| > Well, the message was sending very mixed signals. It wasn't
| > clear whether you were coming to praise Caesar or to bury him,
| > given that in the very same article you mentioned that you would
| > have to recommend that people buy other products over this new
| > version which we haven't even *seen* yet.
| AFS is moving quite rapidly on responding to bugs/improvements on their
| products, perhaps I was praising and buring at the same time...to me footnoting
| is a very important feature missing from this product, a feature missing that
| keeps this from being the leader in NS word processing...AFS having an "Alpha"
| release running at the Developer's Conference in DC in January is
| acknowledgement of the committment Greg has to his products.
I think it comes down to using the proper tool for the job you have in mind.
I will unquestionably be upgrading PasteUp to get my hands on the new and
hopefully working this time! version, but if WriteUp doesn't include all the
features you need, I would strongly suggest taking a look at Pages, which
is an absolutely killer app that presently blows everything else out of the
picture. Word 6.0 and Framemaker don't match up to it, WriteUp doesn't have
a chance in its current form.
WriteUpis nice for what it is, a very basic, simple word processor. If
that's what you need, its great, if it doesn't do everything you want, well
then use an app that does, its not like you don't have a choice.
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS/I boot manager eraised after upgrading DOS 6.0 to 6.2
Date: 29 May 1994 07:08:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2s9f14$cnn@news.service.uci.edu>
Two partitions on a 420MB IDE Drive:
DOS 6.0 --- 100MB
Rest is NS/I.
I just upgraded the DOS 6.0 partition to DOS 6.2 by using an upgrade
floppy.
After upgrading everything works fine except the original NS/I
boot manager is gone.
I can not choose to boot DOS or NS/I.
Instead I have to use fdisk to set the active partition in order to change
from DOS to NS/I or vice versa.
Is there any way to get back the NS bootmanager?
Thank you.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-725-3105
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] How can I view GIF's with OmniWeb?
Date: 29 May 1994 13:18:32 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <2sa4n8$4do@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <2s8hk2$f3r@mailer.fsu.edu>
Dru Nelson (dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu) wrote:
: I am running on NS Intel 3.2. How can I view GIF's with
: Omniweb when I connect to a site. All I see are the icons.
: Do I need to install a service?
:
Yes, try getting hold of ImageViewer.app, or Omni's own OmniImageFilter
service (from the same place you got OmniWeb). These provide services
to automagically transform GIF and many other image formats into
something useable by NEXTSTEP (generally TIFFs).
Many thanks to the creators of both these services (Lennart Lovstrand
and Omni respectively).
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black
Date: 29 May 1994 15:10:38 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2sab9e$7pc@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <ohtrAUO00iUvM1MScS@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <ohtrAUO00iUvM1MScS@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-May-94 panic doing
>gnutar with DAT.. by Feng Liu@jedi.eng.uci.ed
>> NeXTStation 040 mono, Conner Python 2.0G DAT.
>> Just got this DAT and was doing as root
>> gnutar cvf /dev/rst0 /
>>
>> / directory contains two NFS mounts on two other machines, two
>> local disks, total space < 2.0 G byte.
>>
>> System panics in the middle of gnutar.
>
>"If it hurts, don't do it" is a pretty good rule to follow.
>
>I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS
>mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted
>filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used.
>
I thought the dump/rdump can not use to do backup on the system files with
SUID since those files are will not be restored correctly.
I once was backing up my complete root file system with
"dump", but after I restore the system, it is not usable since all the SUID
files got mix up.....
Did NeXT fix this??
--
//|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
// || // @
//==||/\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
// || \\ @ "BUT MY NeXTMAIL IS NOT WORKING YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS on ASUS PCI Board ?
Date: 29 May 1994 15:39:26 GMT
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany
Message-ID: <2sacve$112@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Hi!
Has anybody installed NeXTSTEP 3.2 on a machine that has the
ASUS PCI/I-486SP3/33 as motherboard using the onboard NCR SCSI Chip.
Two people told me, that they have problems with their CD-ROMs.
One of these were told by Talus, that he can't expect the driver to
work on this ASUS board.
I'm still waiting on my HD and when it comes I want to be able to
install NS on it.
Thank you, Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang)
Subject: Zmodem and kermit
Message-ID: <1994May29.155730.22759@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 15:57:30 GMT
Hi, I have some problems to get zmodem work through kermit. I have a black
NeXT and I use kermit to get it connected to university server. Since that
is a modem pool (system), I always have some problems about device (port).
Can anyone help me out ?? Thanks a lot.
--
Andrew C. Chang, Graduate School of Business, University of Chicago
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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* someone just because you would lend it to them. -Walter Harley *
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black
Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 13:54:51 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ohuBPfG00iV4A1Lf1b@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2sab9e$7pc@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-May-94 Re: panic doing
gnutar with.. by Waihon A Kwong@magnus.ac
> >I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS
> >mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted
> >filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used.
>
> I thought the dump/rdump can not use to do backup on the system files with
> SUID since those files are will not be restored correctly.
> I once was backing up my complete root file system with
> "dump", but after I restore the system, it is not usable since all the SUID
> files got mix up.....
I have never ran into such a problem. I assume you did the dump and
restore as root, right? Have you sent email to bug-next?
Oh, I suppose I should mention that there is a pretty highly regarded
backup product available called SafetyNet. I don't use it myself, but
perhaps some other people will comment on it.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: cmg@escape.com (Christopher Geyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mux with Mouse?
Date: 29 May 1994 18:32:17 GMT
Organization: Escape ONLINE.
Message-ID: <2san3h$c78@beyond.escape.com>
Is anoyne out there using Mux? Is is it really as good as it claims?
I just need to figure out how to setup SerialDriver and Mux at the same
time so that I can use the mouse with SerialDriver on com1. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Christopher Geyer
cmg@escape.com
From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problems doing backups
Date: 29 May 1994 18:43:04 GMT
Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT
Message-ID: <SHIVERS.94May29144304@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
References: <ohuBPfG00iV4A1Lf1b@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Sun, 29 May 1994 13:54:51 -0400
> >I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS
> >mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted
> >filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used.
>
> I thought the dump/rdump can not use to do backup on the system files with
> SUID since those files are will not be restored correctly.
> I once was backing up my complete root file system with
> "dump", but after I restore the system, it is not usable since all the SUID
> files got mix up.....
I have never ran into such a problem. I assume you did the dump and
restore as root, right? Have you sent email to bug-next?
I have run into this problem, even when running the dump/restore as root.
I called NeXT. They said, "Oh, yes. That's a bug in dump. Use tar."
You will note that nowhere in the voluminous documentation NeXT has
thoughtfully made available for using dump/restore will you find any
mention that dump is essentially unusable for doing system backups due
to this little problem.
You will also note the personal-computer every-man-looks-out-for-his-own-files
attitude here. Tar is not useful for efficiently making incremental backups
of large filesystems without detailed knowledge of what directories are
NFS mount points. Dump is.
In any event, I replied to the NeXT support guy, "I can't use tar. It
flushes files with pathnames longer than 100 chars." (Which indeed happens,
for example, if you keep NS apps in your home directory.) Then he said
(but only after I had brought the issue up), "Right. You should use gnu tar."
Of course, gnu tar isn't POSIX compliant; it keeps its archives in some
other pre-POSIX format.
Gnu tar is supposed to provide facilities for doing making incremental
archives. I don't know how if it can be told to not follow NFS mount points.
It doesn't matter. There's no documentation for it, so there's no way to use
these fancy features. I checked the NS documentation. I checked on the FSF ftp
machines. No manual. No documentation. So I can't use gnutar for doing
incremental dumps. (I did find a note saying that a manual is being written;
maybe I'm out of date.)
Finally, I would note that NeXT's rdump doesn't use a network protocol that
is compatible with Sun's, so you can't rdump across the net to a tape
drive mounted on a Sparc. You have to have your very own tape drive,
mounted on a NeXT system. Maybe this isn't NeXT's fault; maybe Sun's
rdump protocol is proprietary or something. I don't know. But it's irritating.
I wandered around in backup space for about two weeks a couple of months
ago, when we first set up our NeXT systems. I was not impressed. Every
single one of the solutions that comes with NeXT has big problems. Doing
backups is a basic, important thing. Why is it so difficult?
-Olin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Creating HTML documents?
References: <1994May18.190135.1081@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 08:20:08 GMT
Message-ID: <1994May26.082008.7560@proximus.north.de>
In article <1994May18.190135.1081@prim.demon.co.uk>,
Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi, what is everyone using to create HTML documents under NeXTStep? Is there
>anything which allows you to drag'n'drop file icons to create links?
[...]
I never wrote a HTML document, but as far as I know you can write them
in LaTeX or FrameMaker and use filters. Those filters should be in
many archives, you might want to ask archie for something like 2html
or tohtml, as I forgot the name of the filters.
Gerhard.
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help with TipTop and ncftp
Date: 29 May 1994 21:13:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MARCUS.94May29141311@tdb.ee.pdx.edu>
References: <1994May26.234256.5571@cs.rit.edu> <2s57nn$70f@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
<ROBERT.94May27220852@steffi.demon.co.uk>
In-reply-to: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 27 May 1994 21:08:52 GMT
Grab termftp.cbind (archie shows numerous sites). A plain old FTP, but has
the significant advantage of working with ange-ftp under Emacs.
It works fine for me on cs.orst.edu.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems doing backups
Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 17:30:06 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <SHIVERS.94May29144304@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-May-94 Problems doing
backups by Olin Shivers@lcs.mit.edu
> I have never ran into such a problem. I assume you did the dump and
> restore as root, right? Have you sent email to bug-next?
>
> I have run into this problem, even when running the dump/restore as root.
> I called NeXT. They said, "Oh, yes. That's a bug in dump. Use tar."
Ack! Time to make alternative arangements for doing backups....
> You will note that nowhere in the voluminous documentation NeXT has
> thoughtfully made available for using dump/restore will you find any
> mention that dump is essentially unusable for doing system backups due
> to this little problem.
Yes. Sigh...SafetyNet is sounding much more attractive now that you and
NeXT has confirmed that dump has problems.
Thanks,
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Creating HTML documents?
Date: 29 May 1994 21:49:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2sb2kn$eob@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <1994May18.190135.1081@prim.demon.co.uk> <1994May26.082008.7560@proximus.north.de>
In article <1994May18.190135.1081@prim.demon.co.uk>,
Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Hi, what is everyone using to create HTML documents under NeXTStep? Is there
>>anything which allows you to drag'n'drop file icons to create links?
>[...]
There is an HTMLEdit.app but I tend to use html-mode.el in emacs.
Another sensible thing to do is to write your document in LaTeX
and use latex2html.
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voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: Re: Has anyone ordered InstantTeX recently?
Message-ID: <1994May30.024546.16710@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
References: <May.28.02.28.24.1994.8779@atlantis.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 02:45:46 GMT
In article <May.28.02.28.24.1994.8779@atlantis.rutgers.edu>
jin@atlantis.rutgers.edu (Gavin L. Jin) writes:
> I sent the author an email 4 days ago but receive no response yet.
> How can I order it? Thanks.
It is available for free by anonymous ftp, for example at cs.orst.edu
in pub/next/demos/editors. I use it almost everyday, and it has many nice
features.
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/ \ | /\__| __|_|__ 1126 E 59th Street, Chicago, IL 60637 USA
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From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems doing backups
Date: 30 May 1994 04:49:51 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2sbr9f$9di@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu>,
......DELETE lots of stuffs........................
>Yes. Sigh...SafetyNet is sounding much more attractive now that you and
>NeXT has confirmed that dump has problems.
>
Did anybody who used SaftetyNet confirm me that this software allows me to
"dump" the root file system, and "restore" it on a different, say a new disk?
If I have only one SCSI disk, which is my root file system, I believe I have
to do the dump in sinle user mode......then my question is that can I run
SafetyNet in single user mode? (I thought it is a real NeXTAPP....)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: greg@afs.com
Subject: Re: Beta testers needed for WriteUp 1.1
Message-ID: <1994May30.013914.10082@afs.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: Greg_Anderson@afs.com
References: <1994May27.163531.1300@afs.com> <2s63vh$15q@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 01:39:14 GMT
In article <2s63vh$15q@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com writes:
>In article <1994May27.163531.1300@afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
>Anderson) writes:
>
>> New features include:
>> Underlining (single, double, word-only)
>
>Great, however, if it only does underlining only under the word and not the
>space in between words, it will still be left out of the legal vertical
>market...additionally, we still have NO FOOTNOTING/ENDNOTING :-(.
This specifies three distinct options. Insert 'and/or' before
'word-only' and the phrase will scan as intended.
>The company shows great promise in it's attention to details and bug fixes
>with each incremental release. Keep going Greg!
Thanks! We are adding features at a steady clip according to user demand.
Right now the three most requested missing features are tables, footnotes,
and variable headers/footers (the current version only supports left/right).
I think you can expect these features won't be missing for very long...
greg
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2sbsng$ift@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Control: cancel <2sbsng$ift@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Date: 30 May 1994 05:31:41 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <2sbtnt$inj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
cancel <2sbsng$ift@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software
This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #5 (NOV)
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eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems doing backups
Date: 29 May 1994 23:09:03 -0700
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
Message-ID: <2sbvtv$bfl@triton.ucsd.edu>
References: <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-May-94 Problems doing
>backups by Olin Shivers@lcs.mit.edu
>> I have never ran into such a problem. I assume you did the dump and
>> restore as root, right? Have you sent email to bug-next?
>>
>> I have run into this problem, even when running the dump/restore as root.
>> I called NeXT. They said, "Oh, yes. That's a bug in dump. Use tar."
>
>Ack! Time to make alternative arangements for doing backups....
>
>> You will note that nowhere in the voluminous documentation NeXT has
>> thoughtfully made available for using dump/restore will you find any
>> mention that dump is essentially unusable for doing system backups due
>> to this little problem.
Hey, guys, relax. Somebody at NeXT screwed up restore for NS3.2, with
respect to suid bits. It was OK for 3.1, 3.0, 2.1, 2.0, 1.0a, my
experience doesn't go back any further.
So now there is a patched version of restore available at ftp.next.com.
Or you could use the NS3.1 dump and restore.
Excerpts from tonight's FTP session show the following information.
ftp> pwd
257 "/pub/NeXTanswers/CompressedFiles/Patches/RestorePatch.29807.16" is current directory.
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 147
-rw-r--r-- 1 na submit 2063 May 9 17:17 1554_RestorePatch.ReadMe.compressed
-rw-r--r-- 1 na submit 132455 May 9 17:17 1555_RestorePatch.pkg.compressed
So there it is.
carl
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From: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Date: 30 May 94 15:04:21
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Message-ID: <KAOKI.94May30150421@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
References: <2s46do$jfm@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <CqH7M2.DMI@bldrdoc.gov>
In-reply-to: eboltz@nist.gov's message of Fri, 27 May 1994 19:32:25 GMT
>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 1994 19:32:25 GMT, eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz) said:
Eric> jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca writes
> GeeeZZZ. I run f2c's f77...The only
> limitation is 15-16 decimal places precision (if users want more they use
> DEC Fortran on our VAXen).
Eric> For scientific work this is enough to make it useless...
Quite an unwarranted overgeneralization. Science is a pretty big
field. All IMHO, of course.
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
... posting from kyoto....
From: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Logout of NetWare Connections via Terminal
Date: 30 May 1994 07:19:01 GMT
Organization: University of Constance
Message-ID: <2sc415$c0l@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
Keywords: Novell,NetWare
Hi
Can you please tell us, how to close a Novell connection with
a simple Unix command (same effect as the menue "Deauthenticate" in
NetWare.app)
Thanks
Erland
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems doing backups
Date: 30 May 94 11:33:24 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.770297604@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <ohuBPfG00iV4A1Lf1b@andrew.cmu.edu> <SHIVERS.94May29144304@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers) writes:
>I have run into this problem, even when running the dump/restore as root.
>I called NeXT. They said, "Oh, yes. That's a bug in dump. Use tar."
>You will note that nowhere in the voluminous documentation NeXT has
>thoughtfully made available for using dump/restore will you find any
>mention that dump is essentially unusable for doing system backups due
>to this little problem.
Of course, because the bug was introduced first in 3.2, that means
dump/restore worked fine in all previous releases. However, the bug is
fixed and there's a patch pkg on NeXTanswers. So there's no reason
left why you shouldn't use dump. I find it an excellent way of making
backups.
Markus.
--
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: f77 & perl
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 10:02:12 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UhuT7Y_00iV3A14hcO@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2sbsng$ift@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-May-94 f77 & perl by
Daniel L'Hommedieu@catt.
> Okay. I'm fed up trying to get a Fortran something (be it f2c or other)
> on my my machine. I'm fed up trying to get perl also.
>
> I have been trying to get f2c to compile all day today. 12 hours on
> this thing--with the constant help of a Linux guru out here.
>
> He had some f77 script almost working, but the link stage still
> complains:
> /bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
> MAIN__
>
> Okay. I finally thought to try the FAQ. Found f2c-next. Got libI77
> and libF77 to compile. Got f2c to compile. Now, the .c file says it
> needs libc also (compile with -lc flag). Well, I'm so fed up, I don't
> even know what libc is, or where to get it. Can someone help?
libc.a on most machines is equivalent to NeXT's libNeXT_s.a, so try
"-lNeXT_s" instead of "-lc".
> Regarding perl, I saw in the FAQ to get the source from some mil site.
> Got it, tried compiling, but it tells me that my package is incomplete
> and Configure won't complete. No problem. Let's just try another perl4
> tar file. Well, I've been working on perl for WEEKS with no success.
Get perl from the FTP site prep.ai.mit.edu in /pub/gnu.
> I'm runing NS 2.1 on an 030 Cube. If you can help me, I'd be most
> appreciative.
Sure.
-Chuck
PS: NS 2.1? Wow....
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Gourmet.app graphics with 2.0 Mma kernel?
Date: 30 May 1994 15:38:51 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <2sd1ab$jd3@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
I recently got the old 1.0 demo, Gourmet.app, running by restoring links
to the Mma kernel where Gourmet expects to find them, in /NextApps instead
of /LocalApps. Now Gourmet works fine, and is actually useful enough to
put on my dock, except....
The graphics functions all get passed to the kernel, executed, and the
appropriate "Out =" statement (-Graphics-, -SurfaceGraphics-, etc.) comes
back. But the picture never makes it to the built-in screen at the lower
right of the Gourmet window. Is this problem
(1) due to some incompatibility between the Mma 1.2 that Gourmet was brought
up to expect, and the Mma 2.0 that I'm actually running;
(2) a known bug in Gourmet that is not going away; or
(3) something that can be fixed by setting a default or making a new link
or something that I just don't know about?
Any ideas would be appreciated. Let's preserve full NS 1.0 functionality
for as long as we can.....
Why, exactly, did |==========================================================
kamikaze pilots all | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
wear helmets? |==========================================================
From: john@ghostrider.reshall.umich.edu (John Devlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Return of Improv?
Date: 30 May 1994 16:43:30 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2sd53i$8cu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Improv was one of the reasons I bought a NeXT. It was (is) a
stunning app -- way ahead in the game. (It even had 3.0 style help
before there was a 3.0.). Lotus needed to add an undo option, a
macro facility, maybe a tool ribbon, and eventually object linking;
but it was (is) so nice to use that I would find it very hard to
change over to another product.
Now, of course, Improv 1.0 is not even available for NS/I.
Sooner or later my NeXTstation is going to replaced, and I
would rather not have to run a windows app.
Any chance, especially with Next's focus on financial
services, that Improv will follow Framemaker* and return to the
NEXTSTEP environment?
Compare the case for Improv with that for WordPerfect: My
understanding was that WordPefect Corp. made its decision last fall
to discontinue work on WordPerfect 6.0 for NEXTSTEP because they
estimated (based on sales projections by Next Inc.) that their sales
would fall some $250,000 short of covering their development costs.**
That sounds to me like no more than 1,000 seats. Remember Lt.
Sullivans column in last October's NeXTWorld? "Now here's a buy that
might get any company to port to NEXTSTEP: A government agency
recently put out a bid for ... 7142 copies of a spreadsheet...." You
would think that there would be a sale or sales for Lotus that would
make it worth their while.
*Here I rely on recent net rumours.
**Caution: I am cannot vouch for this account. I am using this
story only as an illustration of what (plausibly) might have been the
case.
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: f77 & perl
Date: 30 May 1994 17:06:39 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <2sd6ev$skb@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
References: <UhuT7Y_00iV3A14hcO@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>libc.a on most machines is equivalent to NeXT's libNeXT_s.a, so try
>"-lNeXT_s" instead of "-lc".
Actually, I tried to cancel my original article.
As an update:
Even with -lNeXT_s instead of -lc, it didn't work. It still couldn't
find the same functions it needed. To get the C program to compile, I
had to use the following form:
cc -o prog1 prog1.c /usr/local/lib/libF77.a /usr/local/lib/libI77.a
ARGH! -lF77 and -lI77 don't work for me!
Ah well...perl has been compiling for over an hour now. When I get back
from class, maybe I'll have something that's ready to install!
Thanks, Chuck.
Daniel
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black
Message-ID: <CqM8DF.E44@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <ohuBPfG00iV4A1Lf1b@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 12:36:51 GMT
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-May-94 Re: panic doing
: gnutar with.. by Waihon A Kwong@magnus.ac
: > >I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS
: > >mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted
: > >filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used.
: >
: > I thought the dump/rdump can not use to do backup on the system files with
: > SUID since those files are will not be restored correctly.
: > I once was backing up my complete root file system with
: > "dump", but after I restore the system, it is not usable since all the SUID
: > files got mix up.....
There is a 'restore' patch available from NeXTAnswers. I never installed
it, but as I recall, it fixed the file permissions (SUID) problems...
: Oh, I suppose I should mention that there is a pretty highly regarded
: backup product available called SafetyNet. I don't use it myself, but
: perhaps some other people will comment on it.
: -Chuck
SafetyNet is absolutely the coolest NeXT utility app around. It is by far
the most powerful tape backup system on any platform I have ever used...
You choose the files/hierarchies to backup with the mouse, in a
Workspace-style file viewer. You can backup local and network (NFS)
filesystems, actively in use or not. All are visible in the browser at the
same time. Then hit the 'Backup...' menu option, and insert a tape.
Once the backup is complete, you can browse the contents of the tape
using a file viewer. You can select files/hierarchies to restore.
Extracting individual files from the tape takes only seconds. You can add
more files to a tape after a first backup is done, if the backup did not
use up the whole tape.
You have many options when doing all of these actions...
This app is so simple-yet-powerful that end-users can use tape as a
portable media, almost as simply as a floppy disk (albeit a Gigabyte-
capacity diskette ;).
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
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csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Mux with Mouse?
Message-ID: <CqM8K3.EA7@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2san3h$c78@beyond.escape.com>
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 12:40:51 GMT
Christopher Geyer (cmg@escape.com) wrote:
: Is anoyne out there using Mux? Is is it really as good as it claims?
: I just need to figure out how to setup SerialDriver and Mux at the same
: time so that I can use the mouse with SerialDriver on com1. Any ideas?
I use Mux, and it improved my serial performance. I have crummy serial
ports in my machine, but Mux makes them usable.
The Mux distribution contains several sample setups. I used the supplied
setup files that make my machine use COM1 for the mouse and COM2 for Mux
(my modem)...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
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csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: PhotoCD.app??
Message-ID: <CqMowt.5EH@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 18:31:57 GMT
I can read NeXT, DOS, Mac, AudioCD, but I cannot read Kodak Photo CD
on my NeXT Turbo 3.2 station. Is there a driver out there??
replies -> comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Thanks, JIM
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Return of Improv?
Date: 30 May 1994 18:58:21 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sdd0d$gfb@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2sd53i$8cu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In article <2sd53i$8cu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
john@ghostrider.reshall.umich.edu (John Devlin) writes:
> Any chance, especially with Next's focus on financial
> services, that Improv will follow Framemaker* and return to the
> NEXTSTEP environment?
I have been a business acquaintance of the Improv Product Manager at Lotus for
some four years and I am, like you, extremely disappointed that Improv is not
available for NeXTSTEP. The reason they didn't port to NSFIP is basically a
financially sound one - NeXT didn't sell enough seats of Improv (although Lotus
was giving Improv away for quite a period of time) to justify the
upgrading/engineering/support costs that would be incurred with such a task,
however, Lotus has changed a lot of their marketing focus with Improv
apparently encouraging the use of Improv in conjunction with Lotus and/or
Excel. I kind of read that as either backing off of their technology a little
bit or encouraging the purchase of two products when, in fact, Improv can do
the job of both...
Improv really had problems communicating with other spreadsheets, unlike MESA,
however, Improv is still the only spreadsheet I can do something with other
than make matrices for pricing :-), although I am getting better with MESA.
> Compare the case for Improv with that for WordPerfect: My
> understanding was that WordPefect Corp. made its decision last fall
> to discontinue work on WordPerfect 6.0 for NEXTSTEP because they
> estimated (based on sales projections by Next Inc.) that their sales
> would fall some $250,000 short of covering their development costs.**
Let's make the situation about WordPerfect very clear...THEY CEASED DEVELOPMENT
ON NEARLY EVERY UNIX PLATFORM, NOT JUST NEXTSTEP (and they also ceased
development on WordPerfect for OS/2 also. And nearly right after that, Novell
scarfed them up!
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Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase,comp.sys.next.software
From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: WANTED: bcp for Intel-based NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994May30.194257.648@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 19:42:57 GMT
Does anyone know if there is bcp for Intel hardware running NeXTSTEP?
It seems that the developer kit for NeXTSTEP only comes with multi-architecture
isql. I guess bcp is shipped with the server, though I would have thought it to
be a sybase client tool.
Thanks in advance.
Brad.
--
Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet.
Date: 30 May 1994 16:28:39 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2sdi9n$fer@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will
be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: What is FSP
References: <2s22b1$800@network.ucsd.edu> <2s4f8p$kpn@nic-nac.csu.net>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 18:24:27 GMT
Message-ID: <1994May30.182427.3803@proximus.north.de>
In article <2s4f8p$kpn@nic-nac.csu.net>, Eric P. Scott <eps@cs.sfsu.edu> wrote:
>It's another way (besides FTP) to provide an anonymous file
>service. While it doesn't transfer files as quickly as FTP, a
>machine running an FSP server can serve far more clients
>simultaneously, with considerably less impact on the server.
>
>FSP newsgroup: alt.comp.fsp
>FSP software: ftp.germany.eu.net:pub/network/inet/fsp/
>
> -=EPS=-
I'd like to add:
FSP stands for File Service Protocol, it is unlike FTP conectionless and
though slowlier much more reliable. So if you have time, but want to
be sure that the file transfer "makes it", you might want to check it
out.
Gerhard.
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP for Intel NS 3.2
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 17:59:26
Organization: Clubside
Message-ID: <chris.6.0011FE23@clubside.digex.net>
Summary: where is a good slip
Keywords: slip nexstep intel
Hello all, I just got NeXTStep 3.2 for Intel and am waiting on a SCSI
controller to install. In the meantime, I'm looking for SLIP so I can continue
what I am now doing under Windows with winsock and the Trumpet Winsock with
SLIP. Can someone recommend a good ftp site and a good SLIP so that I can be
raring to go when the system come up.
Anyone besides me want more than two serial ports supported? My modem is COM4
right now, and it will be a pain in the butt to change the jumpers and
reconfigure all of my other software. Oh well, thanks for the help, just had
to gripe, I'm good at it.
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki)
Subject: Re: f77 & perl
Message-ID: <1994May30.220259.16532@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <2sd6ev$skb@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 22:02:59 GMT
In article <2sd6ev$skb@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C.
L'Hommedieu) writes:
> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> >libc.a on most machines is equivalent to NeXT's libNeXT_s.a, so try
> >"-lNeXT_s" instead of "-lc".
>
> Actually, I tried to cancel my original article.
>
> As an update:
>
> Even with -lNeXT_s instead of -lc, it didn't work. It still couldn't
> find the same functions it needed. To get the C program to compile, I
> had to use the following form:
>
> cc -o prog1 prog1.c /usr/local/lib/libF77.a
/usr/local/lib/libI77.a
>
> ARGH! -lF77 and -lI77 don't work for me!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is very strange, under NS3.2 I had no problems at all getting f2c to
compile and then to crunch through some FORTRAN code... maybe in 2.1 the
linker does not know about the /usr/local/lib directory? I think there
should be a way though to convince it to look through the local path by
setting some environment variables (a wild guess, I'm not a NeXT expert by
any means :)
>
> Ah well...perl has been compiling for over an hour now. When I get back
> from class, maybe I'll have something that's ready to install!
>
> Thanks, Chuck.
>
> Daniel
> --
> Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu
>
> Daniel_LHommedieu@nest.catt.ncsu.edu
> eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
--
Piotr (Peter) Twarecki, M.Eng.
B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: one for music-lovers
Date: 30 May 1994 17:53:01 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940530234808.2218AACUO.malc@jeeves>
Have a look at Ralf Sukow's MusicBuilder (cf press release in csn.announce)!
Gorgeous...!
Since Help isn't implemented yet it's maybe worth a bit of a guide as to how
to get started.
Basically for the demo the thing to look at first is MLProducer, since it is
this which uses bits from everywhere else...
First, make sure you install the "work" folder, you need the things in here to
do anything sensible.
Start ML-Producer: it opens a new document. Drag one of the scores (from
work/MLScore, say Presto-1.score-ml) into the Score well of the new producer,
and one of the orchestras (from work/MLOrchestra, High-Low.orchestra-ml would
be good) into the orchestra well...
Press the Interpret Score button to produce the Raw Notelist; after a while a
document will appear in the well, now press Apply Orchestra, and after another
interlude a document will appear in the Modified Notelist well.
In order for the orchestra to be able to play anything it must have voices, so
bring up the Voice Manager tool, and drag in the MLVoice folder from work into
the briefcase -- wow, another cute icon!
You now have to spin the lower wheel in the Measure Selection panel to the far
right to generate the whole sound, which you do then by clicking Assemble
Voices.
Now sit back and wait a while! And try not to do too much else whilst your
machine's pounding away -- remember this is producing stereo 44kHz sound, so
that 47 second file will be taking up around 8MB, and it's got a lot of
caluculating to do (now we see the real advantages of the DSP in the original
NeXTs!)
When the SND document appears in the Result well, double click to
launch your favourite Sound playing app, and listen and enjoy!
Now go back and start trying to work out how to create a new orchestra...
Maybe you'd care to add a couple more players? Make the orchestra chamber a
bit "bigger"... move the left-hand microphone over a bit, maybe make it a bit
more directional, and get it to home in on a soloist...?
You can!
It should now become clear that you can go back and do your own thing... but
remember you can't save anything in the demo version, so...
Start up MLScore.
Create something, following the principles shown in the examples, e.g.
work/MLScore/Presto-1.score-ml: better still, first, to get a feel for what's
going on, copy a page from Presto-1.score-ml and paste it into a new
doecument.
Now, you can't save this in native format, so tell the app to "Produce
notes".
Save it in a file, e.g. ~/myNotes
Now start up MLOrchestra and open, or just double-click on,
work/MLOrchestra/High-Low.orchestra-ml
You'll probably be getting the picture by now -- see the possibilities?!
Now, arrange your own orchestra. You only have two parts, high and low, but
you can still do creative things. Move a mike to one side, bring up the
Inspector, and change its field! :-))
Add another chap on the righthand side, make him play te low part, but with
the high voice -- wait: don't copy and paste -- it'll crash (Ralf, a bug here
perhaps?).
Once you're through (and at this stage you'll prabably not want to do too much
before getting to the production bit!), remember again you can't save
anything, so again "Process notes"... open ~/myNotes: they'll be read in and
then immediately you'l be asked for a file to save them in, how about
~/myNotes.orchestrated.
Now go back to MLProducer. Create an new production...
Now you can drag ~/myNotes.orchestrated right into the Modified Notelist well.
MLProducer already knows about the Voices you'll need, so just hit Assemble
Voices...
---
This is amazing stuff, with wonderful icons to boot (it's worth getting the
app just for them!) -- well done Ralf (and well done Ralf's mum who did the
icons!)!
I'd love to hear what everybody else thinks about this.
It's not my area at all, but I can see possibilities for Music schools in
particular for letting students try out different spatial arrangements of
virtual orchestras in different size rooms etc. in ways they'd never be able
to in the real world...
I can NeXTMail the distribution to anybody who finds any of the ftp sites a
bit slow... they seemed treacly today...
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569
Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569
Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972
Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk
211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome)
Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How install MUX?
Date: 30 May 1994 23:37:51 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2sdtcf$5kn@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
I'm not a UNIX weenie and the installation
notes for the MUX serial driver are too much for
my weak brain. Can someone convert the instructions
into dumbspeak? I'd appreciate every step.
thanks
L.A. Brooks
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Date: 30 May 1994 18:48:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940531004409.2218AACUS.malc@jeeves>
Ah, cunning one Ralf..!
Use the <Control> key in MLVoice to make selections, copy, cut etc. :-)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: john@ghostrider.reshall.umich.edu (John Devlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Return of Improv?
Date: 31 May 1994 01:17:48 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2se37s$a2p@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2sdd0d$gfb@inxs.concert.net>
In article <2sdd0d$gfb@inxs.concert.net>
info@paradigm-shift.com (That you Dave?) writes:
> I have been a business acquaintance of the Improv Product Manager
at Lotus for
> some four years and I am, like you, extremely disappointed that
Improv is not
> available for NeXTSTEP. The reason they didn't port to NSFIP is
basically a
> financially sound one - NeXT didn't sell enough seats of Improv
(although Lotus
> was giving Improv away for quite a period of time) to justify the
> upgrading/engineering/support costs that would be incurred with
such a task
That must be right. No other explanation makes sense. But
how much would the NEXTSTEP climate have to change for it to be worth
their while to reconsider? Didn't they make this decision last
spring? I would hope that things are looking rather different now.
Can your contact at Lotus confirm whether they are truly open minded
about the possibility of Improv 2.x for NEXTSTEP? Sometimes when a
large organization makes a decision like this, the decision itself
picks up a kind of momentum that carries it past the point where the
original reasons would go. Is this what we are really up against
here?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: miki@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Teledisk LTd.)
Subject: Looking for MIRORING or RAID Driver for N.S.
Message-ID: <1994May30.230918.21849@news.datasrv.co.il>
Sender: usenet@news.datasrv.co.il (usenet)
Organization: DataServe LTD. (An Internet Access Provider), Israel.
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 23:09:18 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tjspiel@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Tom Spielman)
Subject: Re: Soft PC data ---- performance and compatibility ???????
Message-ID: <tjspiel-300594215115@dialup-2-202.gw.umn.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <CqC685.6C1@monitor.com>
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 02:51:15 GMT
In article <CqC685.6C1@monitor.com>, shawn@monitor.com wrote:
> i'm trying to connect with some people who have used or are using SoftPC on
> NS/Intel on a regular basis to reality-check it's capabilities.
>
> specifically, i'd like to know:
> - what apps (or class of apps) DON'T work
> - what is performance really like
> - does the networking stuff work (only Novell, right?)
>
> any info muchos appreciated. i'll summarize. if this is in a FAQ somewhere
> please feel free to flame me (though i've just checked the latest FAQ's on
> cs.orst.edu).
>
> shawn
> ---
> Shawn Broderick
> Monitor Company / Information Engineering
> shawn@monitor.com
> (617) 252-2090
>
> Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw
> through the leather straps.
> -- Emo Phillips
> --
> Shawn Broderick
> Monitor Company / Information Engineering
> shawn@monitor.com
> (617) 252-2090
I used SoftPC on a Novell network for a number of months, and this is my
opinion:
Windows applications run acceptably well when run locally except for apps
that
need to run in 386 enhanced mode which won't run at all.
For some reason, DOS apps performed very badly on my system, I'm not sure
why.
Windows apps launched from a netware server loaded very slowly. In
general,
network access speeds were pretty bad. I've heard rumors that this will
be
fixed in the next release.
There are some quirky things about SoftPC. Working with the floppy drive
is
a pain. Switching between full screen mode and back was extremely akward
and
not worth the bother.
If you're connected to a netware server, and hide softPC for awhile, you
lose
the network connection and have to reboot softPC (or maybe it was
miniaturizing the window, I can't remember which).
I didn't mind running windows apps locally using softPC, and I did run
cc:mail
off a netware server, but I wouldn't run software off a server if It was an
app I spent a lot of time using.
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Return of Improv? (And, an easy way for you to talk to Lotus)
Date: 31 May 1994 03:19:27 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2seabv$md0@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2se37s$a2p@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In article <2se37s$a2p@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
john@ghostrider.reshall.umich.edu (John Devlin) writes:
> That must be right. No other explanation makes sense. But
> how much would the NEXTSTEP climate have to change for it to be worth
> their while to reconsider? Didn't they make this decision last
> spring? I would hope that things are looking rather different now.
> Can your contact at Lotus confirm whether they are truly open minded
> about the possibility of Improv 2.x for NEXTSTEP? Sometimes when a
> large organization makes a decision like this, the decision itself
> picks up a kind of momentum that carries it past the point where the
> original reasons would go. Is this what we are really up against
> here?
I talk to her (the Improv Product Manager) at Lotus, quarterly. She states that
quarterly (as she promised she would when they bagged Improv for black) she
checks NeXT's sales figures and they run the figures against anticipated costs
that I mentioned before...the numbers so far just aren't working out...
The Product Manager would not speak to me ever, and I mean ever again if I
posted her email address to the net for all to see, SO, if you send me email to
info@paradigm-shift.com with the subject line: IMPROV, I will take care to
forward all mail immediately to her and will post her email response back to
the net...I am supposed to be receiving a case of black Lotus Improv (NeXT)
T-Shirts later in the week (not sure how many in the case) along with some
fresh copies of Improv. If you'd like one or the other or both, let me know
that in separate email.
The only way Lotus might hear us about Improv is for us to contact them, so
send me email...NeXTmail is fine juist remember we running SLIP not T-1 so
don't get carried away...
In the meantime - MESA is the spreadsheet to reckon with...they ship their OS/2
version in the summer and, aside from a great product, they are a great company
to deal with as well.
Educational seats at $99.00, commercial at little higher ^ 8-)
Dave Briggman
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: irc.2.03 for Intel ??
Date: 31 May 1994 03:36:17 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sebbh$f3e@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2s8sln$5v3@eps.rain.com>
steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes:
> Has anyone been able to successfully compile irc.2.03 for Intel?
> If so, could you email me your config.h file for a starting point.
Maybe this will be a little help. On cs.orst.edu there seems to
be two files in directory pub/next/unknown that might be of
interest:
-r--rw-r-- 1 4197 470247 Apr 26 1993 ircII2.2.1.2.tar.Z
-r--rw-r-- 1 4197 180387 Apr 26 1993 ircII2.2.1help.tar.Z
there's also:
-r--rw-r-- 1 4197 161058 Apr 26 1993 IRCprimer1.1.ps.Z
which is over in pub/next/documents. I guess that's related to
the other two, given that they showed up on the same day. Note
that the date implies it's probably not NS/Intel-ized. I have
not checked these files myself, as there are other CMC systems
which I prefer over IRC.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: help with TipTop and ncftp
Message-ID: <1994May31.034340.16321@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Originator: verket@verket-home
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
References: <2s57nn$70f@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 03:43:40 GMT
In article <2s57nn$70f@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> In article <1994May26.234256.5571@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry
E
> Noel) writes:
> > Also, when I use ncftp, i cannot do a ls or dir, as this message
> > comes up. Please help.
> >
> > ncftp error message for ls :
> > ncftp>ls
> > PASV command not implemented.
> > cs.orst.edu:/pub/next
> >
> > AND
> >
> > ncftp>dir
> > PASV command not implemented.
> > cs.orst.edu:/pub/next
>
> This is apparently due to cs.orst.edu's version of ftp which doesn't
> support the PASV command. If anyone has a workaround, please post it.
> ...
Version 1.6.0 (October 31, 1993) of ncftp works fine (both ls and dir)
with cs.orst.edu.
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Logout of NetWare Connections via Terminal
Date: 31 May 1994 06:28:15 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <2seldv$e3a@rosie.next.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: dmail 1.9c/makemail 2.2a
Erland Wittkoetter writes in comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software:
>
> Can you please tell us, how to close a Novell connection with
> a simple Unix command (same effect as the menue "Deauthenticate" in
> NetWare.app)
/usr/netware/bin/nwlogout
nwlogout takes one argument, a server name.
there's nwlogin there also.
--Dan
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: Re: PhotoCD.app??
Message-ID: <1994May31.075058.1512@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
References: <CqMowt.5EH@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 07:50:58 GMT
In article <CqMowt.5EH@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
:
:I can read NeXT, DOS, Mac, AudioCD, but I cannot read Kodak Photo CD
:on my NeXT Turbo 3.2 station. Is there a driver out there??
:
:replies -> comp.sys.next.sysadmin
:
:Thanks, JIM
I currently use PhotoCD on My TurboColor NeXT Station with a Sony CD ROM
Drive. You should use
/NextDeveloper/Demos/PhotoAlbum.app
To do that.
I was unable to load 64Base Images
and a multisession disk.
Sincerely
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: How to get linenum for open?
Message-ID: <Cqo6Lw.F4n@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 13:53:56 GMT
I have the new version of open which allows the +linenum option to open a
file in Edit, positioning on a given line.
I have a (tcsh) shell script I use to run SAS from a terminal window and use
grep -n to determine if any errors were produced, but I can't figure out how
to extract the linenumber from that output to feed to open. Can someone
help?
Also, is there a way to have a shell command issued from one Terminal window
start another window with a pre-saved Terminal configuration?
thx,
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Floppy controller causes panic with EISA/VL/ISA board, NS/I
Date: 31 May 1994 14:52:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2sfiv8$b6n@news.service.uci.edu>
I just changed my VL/ISA motherboard to a hunt(?) EISA/VL/ISA motherboard
AMI Bios in order to
have my adaptec 1542B and PAS 16 coexist. They do now. But there are three
problems:
(1) Whenever I reboot the machine, it always says EISA CMOS checksum
failure
but it boots OK in DOS and NS(sort of for NS, see below)
(2) When boot in NS, it complains
Floppy Controller IO: Stray Interrupt
Then it does boot the system and everything works fine, except
whenever
I put in a floppy and run check disks, the system panics: saying
invalid DMA byte. The DMA channel is 2, and I don't have any
conflicts
(3) I have my PAS 16 studio driver set to use DMA 7, IRQ 10. It works fine
with playing sound, but it does not record with the lip-service in
NeXTMail
Thank you.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-725-3105
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <Cqo9J8.4Lp@bldrdoc.gov>
Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
References: <KAOKI.94May30150421@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 14:57:07 GMT
Kenichiro Aoki writes
> > limitation is 15-16 decimal places precision (if users want more they use
> Eric> For scientific work this is enough to make it useless...
>
> Quite an unwarranted overgeneralization. Science is a pretty big
> field. All IMHO, of course.
True. Let me rephrase...
For much of our/my work in BEM/FD/and modeling of transient acoustic wave
propagation in anisotropic solids f2c is useless.
-E
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: eugene@nshade (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC and modems
Date: 31 May 1994 18:25:20 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2sfveg$hit@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
okok
no responses to my first query
and i hope i don't offend too many people by asking again
but i really really need an answer...
I'm running SoftPC version...lemme see here...2.0.5
(ya, ya i know, it's a really old version)
and i need to get it to work with a modem.
I set the serial A port under preferences to /dev/ttya
and SoftPC insists on telling me that
"Device needed by comms adapter could not be accessed - check permissions,
'Com1' = '/dev/ttya'"
I had this working at one point
but I've forgotten what I did to get it working.
I've also tried /dev/cua with the same result.
Can anyone out there help? or should I just see
if the boss will let me buy the latest version?
Help desperately needed...
(and, since I haven't quite figured out how to tell this dumb
newsreader to append the domain name to the reply field,
you'll have to send replies directly to the address below.)
Thanks alot!
Eugene
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
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grad student/sys admin "For I am a Bear of Very
Department of Radiology Little Brain, and
University of Alberta Hospitals long words bother me."
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Winnie the Pooh
From: sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS/I boot manager eraised after upgrading DOS 6.0 to 6.2
Date: 31 May 1994 18:09:27 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2sfugn$eor@rosie.next.com>
References: <2s9f14$cnn@news.service.uci.edu>
fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes:
> Two partitions on a 420MB IDE Drive:
> I just upgraded the DOS 6.0 partition to DOS 6.2
> After upgrading everything works fine except the original NS/I
> boot manager is gone.
> Is there any way to get back the NS bootmanager?
This is almost certainly on a FAQ somewhere; you should check out next answers.
(anyway...)
as root:
disk -b /dev/rhd0h
or
/usr/etc/fdisk /dev/rhd0h -useBoot0 -setNeXTActive
-sam
--
Opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer. They're not even
mine. They're probably wrong besides. How did they get in here, anyway?
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: f77 & perl
Date: 31 May 1994 18:39:50 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94May31113951@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <UhuT7Y_00iV3A14hcO@andrew.cmu.edu> <2sd6ev$skb@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
In-reply-to: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu's message of 30 May 1994 17:06:39 GMT
In article <2sd6ev$skb@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) writes:
> Even with -lNeXT_s instead of -lc, it didn't work. It still couldn't
> find the same functions it needed. To get the C program to compile, I
> had to use the following form:
>
> cc -o prog1 prog1.c /usr/local/lib/libF77.a /usr/local/lib/libI77.a
>
> ARGH! -lF77 and -lI77 don't work for me!
You tell "cc" where to look by using the "-L" flag. Note that you
also need to pass the "-l" flags *last*, as in
cc -o prog1 prog1.c -lF77.a...
This makes it a bit inconvenient to write an "f77" script. Of course it
is possible, but methinks it is stupid given that you can use "make"
instead to accomplish the same thing much simpler (and in a more
"Unixy" way).
Like this for example (part of a makefile):
CFLAGS =
CPPFLAGS =
F2C = f2c
F2CFLAGS = -R
LOADLIBES = -lI77 -lF77
%.o : %.f
%.c : %.f
$(F2C) $(F2CFLAGS) $<
Note that I am running 3.2 and use GNU make. Here, by the way, is how
to get and install f2c:
Mon Feb 28 20:41:19 PST 1994
Obtained source from netlib.att.com:
files in this directory plus
all from src
shar file containing libF77 (libf77.Z)
shar file containing libI77 (libi77.Z)
Uncompressed files in src
make
cc -c -DCRAY malloc.c # as per README
make
cp -p f2c /usr/local/bin
cp -p xsum /usr/local/bin
cp -p f2c.1 /usr/local/man/man1 # lots of problem with man files...
cp -p f2c.h /usr/local/include
Unshared libi77
touch local.h # as per README
make
cp -p libI77.a /usr/local/lib
ranlib /usr/local/lib/libI77.a
Unshared libf77
make
cc -c -DSkip_f2c_Undefs -DIEEE_drem -O r_mod.c
ld -r -x -o r_mod.xxx r_mod.o
mv r_mod.xxx r_mod.o
cc -c -DSkip_f2c_Undefs -DIEEE_drem -O d_mod.c
ld -r -x -o d_mod.xxx d_mod.o
mv d_mod.xxx d_mod.o
make
cp -p libF77.a /usr/local/lib
ranlib /usr/local/lib/libF77.a
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MAB version of tin?
Date: 31 May 1994 19:20:41 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2sg2m9$a3a@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994May27.005214.17684@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca wrote:
: I recently downloaded tin (a news reader). Does anyone know if a i486/m68k FAT
: version of the binary exists anywhere?
Sure, I posted one to cs.orst.edu not a month back.
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, <- finger for PGP key |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) |
+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: dkarlton@grover.trg.saic.com (David Karlton)
Subject: help: DOS and NeXT program communication
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Summary:
Keywords:
Message-ID: <24962694@MVB.SAIC.COM>
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 19:28:01 GMT
I'm looking for help in setting up network communication between a DOS
PC and a PC running NeXT. Basically, I'm interested in figuring out the
best way to handshake between programs running on both machines. From
scrounging around in bookstores and in the UNIX man pages, it seems like
there are quite a few resources for setting up communication from the
UNIX-y end of things, (like sockets, etc.), but I'm not having the same
luck with DOS. Using PC-NFS and/or TCP/IP, the best I could do was NFS or
telnet, when what I'm really interested in doing is getting to a lower
level, just like I can on the NeXT.
I posted this at comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc and haven't had much luck.
People keep advising me to use various packages which are only able to set
up telnet or ftp connections. Someone mentioned a program named WINSOCK that
might let me get into the nitty-gritty of TCP and sockets, but the DOS
machine won't be running windows. I *also* read somewhere that IBM has a
TCP/IP developer package that lets you get into lower-level stuff.
I have very little experience in this area, so I'd appreciate any advice on
how to approach this problem.
Thanks in advance,
David
Please email, if possible, to dkarlton@trg.saic.com. NeXTMail welcome.
BTW, if this turns out to be too daunting a task, we're reluctantly prepared
to do this across a serial connection, as we already have the tools
implemented for it. But we'd much rather take advantage of network speed
and free up our serial ports.
--
David P. Karlton Science Applications International Corporation
Biologist?? 10260 Campus Point Drive M/S C4
San Diego, CA 92121
dkarlton@trg.saic.com 619-546-6423
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Has anyone ordered InstantTeX recently?
Date: 31 May 1994 19:21:45 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Message-ID: <2sg2o9$3f6@news.iastate.edu>
References: <May.28.02.28.24.1994.8779@atlantis.rutgers.edu> <1994May30.024546.16710@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1994May30.024546.16710@midway.uchicago.edu>,
Michael Suk-Young Chwe <chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>In article <May.28.02.28.24.1994.8779@atlantis.rutgers.edu>
>jin@atlantis.rutgers.edu (Gavin L. Jin) writes:
>> I sent the author an email 4 days ago but receive no response yet.
>> How can I order it? Thanks.
>
>It is available for free by anonymous ftp, for example at cs.orst.edu
>in pub/next/demos/editors. I use it almost everyday, and it has many nice
>features.
Beware, it doesn't seem to run on NS/Intel. I had no luck running it on intel
even it said it's FAT/MAB.
Chris
>
>---
>Michael Suk-Young Chwe chwe@uchicago.edu (NeXTMail OK)
>__|__ | / _| ( ) Economics Department, University of Chicago
> / \ | /\__| __|_|__ 1126 E 59th Street, Chicago, IL 60637 USA
>__|__ | / ( ) Facsimile 312-702-8490
--
NeXTMail super welcomed!!|
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chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: nfs@sabrina.inesc.pt (Nuno Espirito Santo)
Subject: ctwm for NS
Message-ID: <Cqo8tG.5Ao@inesc.pt>
Keywords: ctwm, NS
Sender: usenet@inesc.pt
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, LISBOA. PORTUGAL.
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 14:41:39 GMT
Hello world.
I was wondering if anybody has successfully compiled that woderful
X window manager called ctwm, for a NeXT Cube.
If any of you has done this, please let me know and, possibly,
give me a copy of it ...:-)
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Re: Logout of NetWare Connections via Terminal
Message-ID: <CqoptH.CyE@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
References: <2seldv$e3a@rosie.next.com>
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 20:48:53 GMT
In article <2seldv$e3a@rosie.next.com> grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) writes:
|
|Erland Wittkoetter writes in comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software:
|>
|> Can you please tell us, how to close a Novell connection with
|> a simple Unix command (same effect as the menue "Deauthenticate" in
|> NetWare.app)
|
|/usr/netware/bin/nwlogout
|
|nwlogout takes one argument, a server name.
|
|there's nwlogin there also.
A related question: I'm using network printers, some of which are hung on a
NetWare server. If I've rebooted, but forgotten to Authenticate, then when
I print from a Print panel, it looks like the print job has been sent, but
nothing actually gets printed. There is no console message to indicate that
anything is wrong.
Is there some way to handle this so that everything works without my having
to worry about it? e.g., perhaps by running nwlogin from rc.local ? What are
the args for nwlogin? Is there another way?
thx,
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Date: 31 May 1994 22:55:08 +0200
Organization: Contributed Software GbR
Message-ID: <2sg87c$7f3@uropax.contrib.de>
References: <940530234808.2218AACUO.malc@jeeves>
M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk writes:
>Since Help isn't implemented yet it's maybe worth a bit of a guide as to how
>to get started.
Thank you, Malcolm, for spending much time to help.
>It should now become clear that you can go back and do your own thing... but
>remember you can't save anything in the demo version, so...
>
>Start up MLScore.
>Create something, following the principles shown in the examples, e.g.
>work/MLScore/Presto-1.score-ml: better still, first, to get a feel for what's
>going on, copy a page from Presto-1.score-ml and paste it into a new
>document.
>Now, you can't save this in native format, so tell the app to "Produce
>notes".
>Save it in a file, e.g. ~/myNotes
It's interesting you found this way to get around saving, Malcolm,
since this wasn't the way I planned it ;-)
It's not that you cannot save a document, you only get an empty file.
Save your score to, let's say, work/MLScore/my.score-ml, but don't
close the window and don't quit MLScore. You can, of course, hide it.
Then drag the (empty) my.score-ml to the MLProducer's score well.
Now you can "Interprete Score". When the MLProducer asks the already
started MLScore to do it, MLScore will take the loaded score document in
memory, not the empty file you saved.
The same works with MLOrchestra and with voices you designed
with MLVoice.
>Now, arrange your own orchestra. You only have two parts, high and low, but
>you can still do creative things.
If you want to assign more parts in MLScore.app, you can do it using
the Modification Inspector:
1. Select the notes you want make to play another part (hold down shift-key
when extending the selection).
2. Press Command-2 to get the modification inspector.
3. Type into the text field "After All Selected Elements"
(or "After this Element", if you selected a single one) the following text:
part = "whatYouWant";
and press return.
This overwrites the part assignment from the normal "part" element.
4. Wait a moment or press Command-r to refresh (recalculate resulting notes).
5. Press Command-3 and use the Resulting Note Inspector to
check if you got what you want.
This is, of course, not the most elegant way, but it shows that
the modification inspector is something like the "Universal Workaround Tool".
-> Whishlist entry: "Function to Find and select all elements with
<parameter> equal to <value>", e.g part == "whatYouWant".
>Add another chap on the righthand side, make him play te low part, but with
>the high voice -- wait: don't copy and paste -- it'll crash (Ralf, a bug here
>perhaps?).
I'm sorry for that. It is a result of the player not to be stored correctly
onto the pasteboard in the demo version since I've removed the storing
code of all elements ;-( It works in the full release, though.
>I'd love to hear what everybody else thinks about this.
Me too :-)
Thank you, and have fun,
Ralf
--
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From: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ppp help
Date: 31 May 1994 15:39:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sgeae$ob3@aludra.usc.edu>
Hi all,
I am trying to put up the public domain ppp by Karl Fox on my NeXT
mono slab at home. I am having no luck at getting it to work. The
modem that I am using is a NEC N9631.
Can anyone point me to a FAQ or how-to or write up how they installed
ppp on their home machine? I think that I have done everything right
- but am not sure. At the present moment I am stuck with getting the
chat command to dial my modem.
Thanks in Advance!!
Brian A. Kowal
kowal@usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sxuwan@loki.uucp (Bill Nixon)
Subject: zmodem software for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994May31.210029.9647@almserv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 21:00:29 GMT
I am looking for a zmodem package for NeXTSTEP. I downloaded a copy
of rzsz which is what I used to use on an Ultrix box, but am having
trouble compiling it under NeXTSTEP.
Could anyone point me in the right direction to find a zmodem package
for NeXTSTEP? I am running 3.2 on black hardware.
Please reply via e-mail since I don't read the newsgroups that often.
Thanks!
Bill
--
bnixon@fnma.com or uunet!fnma.com!bnixon (NeXT Mail Okay)
Bill Nixon, SIS, Systems & Operations Management Development
FannieMae, 3900 Wisconsin Ave NW, Washington, DC 22016 (202) 752-5468
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sxuwan@pilsner.fnma.com (Bill Nixon)
Subject: zmodem software for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994May31.223313.11208@almserv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 22:33:13 GMT
I am looking for a zmodem package for NeXTSTEP. I downloaded a copy
of rzsz which is what I used to use on an Ultrix box, but am having
trouble compiling it under NeXTSTEP.
Could anyone point me in the right direction to find a zmodem package
for NeXTSTEP? I am running 3.2 on black hardware.
Please reply via e-mail since I don't read the newsgroups that often.
Thanks!
Bill
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From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tseng w32i driver
Date: 1 Jun 1994 00:13:09 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2sgjql$job@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Like I have posted before, if you need a copy of the w32i driver,
email me and I can send it to you...
don't ask for NeXTmail please....
and don't ask me to tell you what resolutions it supports....
I'm just here to email it to you while it's still in my
saved messages folder in PINE....
Gary
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From: dedwards@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David O Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fsp for NeXT
Date: 1 Jun 1994 00:30:00 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sgkq8$iab@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Anyone know of anyFSP clients for NeXT? I'm using 3.2 on black hardware
and can't seem to find any fsp software that will compile okay. I tried 271
and it's not working.
Thanks in advance.
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From: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994May31.222224.19544@atd.rochester.ny.us>
Organization: Huh?
References: <KAOKI.94May30150421@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> <Cqo9J8.4Lp@bldrdoc.gov>
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 22:22:24 GMT
>> Eric> For scientific work this is enough to make it useless...
Why is f2c any less accurate than any other language? Isn't a double a double?
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From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Re: Floppy controller causes panic with EISA/VL/ISA board, NS/I
Message-ID: <1994May31.212701.9065@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <2sfiv8$b6n@news.service.uci.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 21:27:01 GMT
Feng Liu writes
> I just changed my VL/ISA motherboard to a hunt(?) EISA/VL/ISA motherboard
> AMI Bios in order to
> have my adaptec 1542B and PAS 16 coexist. They do now. But there are three
> problems:
> (1) Whenever I reboot the machine, it always says EISA CMOS checksum
> failure
> but it boots OK in DOS and NS(sort of for NS, see below)
I had the same problem with my TYAN EISA/VLB motherboard. You have to re-run
the EISA Configuration Utility (ECU) and save the configuration to the CMOS
each time you change/add/remove any hardware in the system.
> (2) When boot in NS, it complains
> Floppy Controller IO: Stray Interrupt
> Then it does boot the system and everything works fine, except
> whenever
I recently replaced my old Multi-I/O card (floppy controller) and the "stray"
message went away. It never caused me any problems though.
> I put in a floppy and run check disks, the system panics: saying
> invalid DMA byte. The DMA channel is 2, and I don't have any
> conflicts
I've never had this problem. May go away when ECU is re-run?
> (3) I have my PAS 16 studio driver set to use DMA 7, IRQ 10. It works fine
> with playing sound, but it does not record with the lip-service in
> NeXTMail
>
The NeXT supplied PAS driver does not set the microphone input level to a
usable level. Several users have hacked the driver to set usable levels. Look
around on the usual FTP sites.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
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From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Subject: Is Pinnacle Research (VirtSpace) still alive ?
Message-ID: <CqoMrL.6JC@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland
Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 19:42:56 GMT
Hi netters!
I would like to buy a licence for VirtSpace. I have mailed more times
a request to virtspace@pri.com, but without reply...
Any suggestions ?
Stefano
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phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 1 Jun 1994 02:18:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu>
In article <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@fermat.cs.jhu.edu
(Alexander Swietlicki) writes:
> In article <2s2epc$c09@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>
> I don't know about anyone else, but I would really like to see a
public
> domain fax driver package that works with the SupraFax modem! I
don't
> need all the fancy answering machine stuff, just a send/receive fax
driver
> that doesn't cost $135. :)
>
> I wouldn't. I'd like to see it as a working part of NEXTSTEP, where it
> belongs. If NeXT is going to have a fax button on the print panel, it
> should support some common faxmodems, or a least class 2 properly. I
have
> a SupraFAXModem v.32bis and black hardware, too.
>
I'm certainly no fax driver expert, but making a fax driver part of the
OS would guarantee that it would always be out-of-date and "buggy". Is
class 2 a finished standard yet? Whether it is or not, new fax features
are continuously appearing in fax machines/modems (how many new ROM
versions for your fax modem have been released since you purchased?).
Only a small, agile company specializing in fax drivers can hope to keep
up with the changes.
And then there's the issue of dealing with buggy implementations of the
fax protocol in cheap fax machines that sell by the millions. This must
require custom microcode. Would an OS vendor have the expertise and
desire to keep its driver working with these buggy fax machines? I doubt
it.
So I'll gladly pay $135 to Black & White for their fax driver (it's
much more than a fax driver you know - it automatically senses whether a
fax or data call has arrived and does the right thing accordingly). How
many "bad" faxes do you have to send and receive before you've spent over
$135 on long-distance phone calls and lost time? Not many...
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USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Date: 1 Jun 1994 02:26:48 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2sgrl8$iv4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <940530234808.2218AACUO.malc@jeeves> <2sg87c$7f3@uropax.contrib.de>
suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow) writes:
>M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk writes:
>>[...stuff about the MusicBuilder demo...]
Well, I must agree with Malcolm. MusicBuilder looks like a very
cool piece of work. I've been playing with it this evening, and
am impressed. Some of the orchestra side goes past what I'm into,
but the concept is really neat. Useful, I can't say, but it's
fun to play with. :~)
Now all I need is some SERIOUS hardware to run the thing. My main
interest, aside from playing around, is supporting the learning of
choral parts during individual practise. (I'm a lame keyboardist. :~)
Using MusicBuilder to flip back and forth between snatches of a piece
would be laborious because of the time delay in producing the .snd
files on my old black slab. Nothing some hot hardware wouldn't help.
:~)
Questions/comments for Ralf:
- I didn't see any official release info with the demo package. When
is the real thing coming, and at what price? (Email this if you
don't want to risk offending the net.gods. :~)
- Ways to speed-enter scores would be very useful. E.g. keyboard a-g
for notes, other short-cuts for note duration, etc; ways to
replicate keys, time signatures, etc. across bars.
- There are some little gremlins with the interface. E.g. dragging
pallette elements in MLScore, and then dropping them on the pallette
itself leaves some clutter behind; time-consuming activities in
MLProducer could use some user-feedback while things are going on.
Anyway, despite these nits, it's apps like this that show me why I
got into NEXTSTEP in the first place. Even programmers need to run
somebody else's code once in a while; if it's cool stuff, all the
better. :~)
Royce Howland
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: IRC for NS
Message-ID: <CqpCGK.320@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <2s892a$eha@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 04:57:55 GMT
In article <2s892a$eha@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift
Corporation) writes:
| Anybody know of some sort of chat program called IRC...I hear it's pretty
| interesting but know very little aside from that.
|
| Followups would be appreciated.
|
| Dave
|
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yes, IRC Version 2.03 lies on several ftp-site. Try cs.orst.edu or
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Nice Greetings from Munich
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From: kimage@well.sf.ca.us (Kimbrough Bassett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GIF viewers found
Date: 1 Jun 1994 04:42:30 GMT
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Message-ID: <2sh3jm$e7i@nkosi.well.com>
Summary: Lists NeXT GIF image viewers
Keywords: GIF NeXT image viewer software
Some of us posted requests for GIF viewers recently.
You all responded with the below winners. Thanks
for your help.
ImageViewer.app is at
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
OmniImage.app is at
ftp.omnigroup.com
From: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Floppy controller causes panic with EISA/VL/ISA board, NS/I
Date: 31 May 1994 22:06:25 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Message-ID: <2sh50h$r81@crl.crl.com>
References: <2sfiv8$b6n@news.service.uci.edu>
CMOS check-sum error:
Your cmos needs to be reset. While booting up (during memory check)
choose to reconfigure cmos setup.
1. note down both standard and advanced cmos settings
2. in setup choose "load hardware defaults" and save to cmos.
3. reboot -- error message should have gone away -- to dos
4. run eisa configuration - "ecu" or whatever and save your configuration
5. reboot and choose cmos setup.
6. in setup "load bios defaults" and change all to what ever it was (step 1)
and save
6. reboot to NeXTSTEP
Hope this helps.
Best Regards.
--Chip (cnayak@crl.com)
From: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT EMACS 4.0
Date: 31 May 1994 22:46:29 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Message-ID: <2sh7bl$if@crl.crl.com>
Hi;
While using Emacs4.0, at times the menu grows up dependig on what I might
be doing. With a "large" main menu I selected the option and killed the
buffer I was editing which resulted in the main menu resizing to its original
size. However the submenu that was/is open (where kill buffer is an option)
now appears to be torn off the main menu when it really is not. Why?
Thanks a lot for your response.
Best Regards.
--Chip (cnayak@crl.com)
From: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there a "defaults" inspector?
Date: 31 May 1994 22:54:08 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Message-ID: <2sh7q0$100@crl.crl.com>
Hi;
Is there such an app/inspector that would allow to check what all
defaults that a running app supports to allow an easy access to
setting defaults using dwrite?
Thanks a lot.
Best regards.
--Chip (cnayak@crl.com)
From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 01 Jun 1994 10:25:34 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In-reply-to: art@cubicsol.com's message of 1 Jun 1994 02:18:18 GMT
In article <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
I'm certainly no fax driver expert, but making a fax driver part of the
OS would guarantee that it would always be out-of-date and "buggy". Is
class 2 a finished standard yet?
Yes, class 2 has become official. By your logic, though, NeXT shouldn't
be shipping a compiler, since their version of gcc is always "out-of-date
and buggy". The fax button in the print panel is there for a reason.
And there *are* two drivers included (HSD and Interfax). Class 2 used to
be there, but it was broken. NeXT's fix? Removal. Let's hope it comes
back fixed in 3.3.
And then there's the issue of dealing with buggy implementations of the
fax protocol in cheap fax machines that sell by the millions. This must
require custom microcode. Would an OS vendor have the expertise and
desire to keep its driver working with these buggy fax machines? I doubt
it.
NeXT used to be a company that handled an OS _and_ hardware. Now that it
just deals with software, there's no excuse. It should "just work" in
every aspect. If NeXT simply supports the Class 2 standard, then if there
are problems, users can complain to the modem companies for ROM bugfixes
until the modem meets the standard as well. (BTW, the old excuse was
that the class 2 spec. wasn't finalized yet. That no longer applies.)
So I'll gladly pay $135 to Black & White for their fax driver (it's
much more than a fax driver you know - [...]
Yeah. It evilly reconfigures the modem. (At least the 1.03 demo did in '92)
As for the cost, that's almost half the price of NEXTSTEP w/the edu discount.
NEXTSTEP is much more than a fax driver, you know...
$135 is also _more_ than some of the new faxmodems, which come bundled with
drivers for other systems.
How many "bad" faxes do you have to send and receive before you've spent
over $135 on long-distance phone calls and lost time? Not many...
I don't know. My slab can't send or receive any faxes. :/
From: thomas@olorin.dark.sub.org (Thomas Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: bbs source
Date: 31 May 1994 15:11:30 +0200
Organization: Olorin, NeXT Development & System Administration, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sfd22$ht3@olorin.dark.sub.org>
Hi,
I'm looking for a BBS package (source and for free preferred, of course)
for a NeXT...
I believe there's no BBS software (maybe commercial) with NS-support ?!?
So I guess a simple unix BBS would do the job - but I have no idea which
works under Mach/BSD - does xbbs ?
Bye, Thomas
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(+49) 7191 23217 voice,fax,data
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From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
In-Reply-To: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu's message of 01 Jun 1994 10:25:34 GMT
Message-ID: <MDW.94Jun1084803@laura.jazz.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Red Hill
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
<SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:48:03 GMT
In article <SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) writes:
>In article <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
> I'm certainly no fax driver expert, but making a fax driver part of the
> OS would guarantee that it would always be out-of-date and "buggy". Is
> class 2 a finished standard yet?
>Yes, class 2 has become official.
Just to be a snot (SOMEone's gotta do it!), I'll point out that the
"Official Standard" (ahem) is Class 2.0. Class 2 (sans "dot-O") is
what was proposed and is full of loopholes and possibilities for
Creative Interpretation. Which is why Dick's Class 2 driver does not
work with Jane's Class 2 Fax and only marginally with Spot's Class
2 Fax.
Mark
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From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs-4.0 and keyboardbindings and more
Date: 1 Jun 1994 15:41:53 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <2si371$llg@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no>
Keywords: Emacs
How come I have to use [RET] instead of [return] when defining keys in my
.emacs -file when it works fine with [return] on emacs for X. (I would like to
be able to share my .emacs file between differen platforms).
By the way I get an error (missing parameter or something) when I start tex
from Emacs-4.0, is this a known bug ?
And last, would it be a good idea to make emacs able to read and show rtf-files
(wysiwig)?
Arne
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ZIP for the NeXT
Date: 1 Jun 1994 15:57:12 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <2si43o$mm0@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no>
References: <2rtteu$s28@gateway.wiltel.com>
Keywords: ZIP Next
Why not use gunzip, it should allready be installed on your computer (at least
in NS-3.2).
Arne
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Soft PC data ---- performance and compatibility ???????
Date: 1 Jun 1994 16:02:35 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <2si4dr$mul@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no>
References: <CqC685.6C1@monitor.com> <2s0cjj$c7f@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Framemaker doesn't work in Soft PC (uses enhanched-mode).
Reading DOS-6.0 partition-files doesn't work (problems in NS too I think).
I found Soft PC to be too slow, and too many bugs so I gave it up (first
release included in NS-3.2).
Arne
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HP DESKJET 500 driver for NSIntel v3.2
Date: 1 Jun 1994 16:08:02 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <2si4o2$n6g@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no>
References: <2s27oj$asc@news.univ-rennes1.fr>
'Dots' works fine, but costs money (works with numerous other printers too).
Arne
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NS/I boot manager eraised after upgrading DOS 6.0 to 6.2(solved)
Date: 1 Jun 1994 16:02:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2sibed$n5t@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <2sfugn$eor@rosie.next.com>
In article <2sfugn$eor@rosie.next.com> sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper)
writes:
> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes:
> > Two partitions on a 420MB IDE Drive:
> > I just upgraded the DOS 6.0 partition to DOS 6.2
> > After upgrading everything works fine except the original NS/I
> > boot manager is gone.
> > Is there any way to get back the NS bootmanager?
>
Thanks to everyone who replied to my post. I used the following and
got back the bootmanager.
boot Nextstep, login as root and then
disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rhd0h
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-725-3105
From: captain@arsenal.com (Andrew T. Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BBS
Date: 1 Jun 1994 16:35:20 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <2sidc8$d72@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Howdy,
When I was running a BBS under NeXTSTEP, I had a good deal of luck with
a package called "Waffle". Unfortunatly, I am unable to find the
number and information regarding purchasing. However, I believe that
if you post a request in the BBS newsgroups, I am sure you can get
a reply.
Later!
- C
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 28 May 1994 02:03:50 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2s6ms6$8hu@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu>
Alexander Swietlicki writes
> In article <2s2epc$c09@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>
> I don't know about anyone else, but I would really like to see a public
> domain fax driver package that works with the SupraFax modem! I don't
> need all the fancy answering machine stuff, just a send/receive fax driver
> that doesn't cost $135. :)
>
> I wouldn't. I'd like to see it as a working part of NEXTSTEP, where it
> belongs. If NeXT is going to have a fax button on the print panel, it
> should support some common faxmodems, or a least class 2 properly. I have
> a SupraFAXModem v.32bis and black hardware, too.
>
> But if there were a PD fax driver, I'd use it in the meantime. :-)
>
> If anyone's considering writing one, please don't make it RECONFIGURE
> the modem and SAVE the new settings every time it starts. That's evil.
>
> And $135 for drivers that should be already PART of NEXTSTEP to aid
> a piece of hardware costing about the same price is ludicrous.
This is rediculous.... why is that such a ludicrous price?
You have to buy fax software on the PC... or the Mac.... and Delrina is
selling WinFaxPro for about $80.... $135 is pretty reasonable considering the
difference in the size of the market.
Just because NeXT supports a Fax capability that is actually integrated
into the OS, doesn't mean that they should support every fax-modem on the
planet.
NXFax from Black and White software works, and they should be supported
and encouraged to add additional modem support.... not scorned because they
actually want to make a buck...
If some third party writes a driver for a video card that you would
otherwise be unable to use with NEXTSTEP, why shouldn't they profit from that?
It would be wonderful if NeXT was in a position to support more video
drivers for all sorts of weird cards... but thats not the case.
If you want to use NS, either get a card/modem that is compatible,
write a driver yourself, buy a third party driver, or lobby the manufacturer to
support NS.
or wait until the HP port is widely available and you don't have to
mess with the hell-hole that is PC hardware...
Scott
(Who has had a DELL PC for 2 years now, and still can't get both serial ports
to work at the same time under MS-DOS or Windows...)
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: NeXT EMACS 4.0
In-Reply-To: cnayak@crl.com's message of 31 May 1994 22:46:29 -0700
To: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun1091100@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:11:00 GMT
In article <2sh7bl$if@crl.crl.com> cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak) writes:
While using Emacs4.0, at times the menu grows up dependig on what I might
be doing. With a "large" main menu I selected the option and killed the
buffer I was editing which resulted in the main menu resizing to its original
size. However the submenu that was/is open (where kill buffer is an option)
now appears to be torn off the main menu when it really is not. Why?
That is a NeXTstep bug. When the width of a menu changes attached
submenus aren't moved to match. Fixing that in Emacs would have been
ugly and I didn't think it was critical, so I left that task up to the
good people at NeXT.
Carl Edman
From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Date: 1 Jun 1994 21:37:56 +0200
Organization: Contributed Software GbR
Message-ID: <2sio2k$jgg@uropax.contrib.de>
References: <940530234808.2218AACUO.malc@jeeves> <2sg87c$7f3@uropax.contrib.de> <2sgrl8$iv4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) writes:
----------------------------------------------------------------
>Well, I must agree with Malcolm. MusicBuilder looks like a very
>cool piece of work. I've been playing with it this evening, and
>am impressed. Some of the orchestra side goes past what I'm into,
>but the concept is really neat.
If it is while copy/paste players then this is a known bug with the
demo app (sorry). If not - could you please describe it more precisely?
>Now all I need is some SERIOUS hardware to run the thing. My main
>interest, aside from playing around, is supporting the learning of
>choral parts during individual practise. (I'm a lame keyboardist. :~)
>Using MusicBuilder to flip back and forth between snatches of a piece
>would be laborious because of the time delay in producing the .snd
>files on my old black slab. Nothing some hot hardware wouldn't help.
>:~)
The fastest Hardware now for NEXTSTEP (probably a 755 HP machine) is
not more than 5 - 10 times faster than your and my "old slabs". This is
not enough to solve your problem, so we need to look for a software
solution:
First of all, I already thought out additional enhancements to the
producer. For example: if nothing changed but only the measure selection
wheels position, MLProducer doesnt need to rebuild the parts is
already produced before. This is an advantage of the non-real-time principle
but I did not use the whole potential that is in it.
At the moment, I'm writing a manual. Then, the final release will go out.
After that, I'll prepare a 1.1 release with enhancements in producer
speed and score layout / handling.
Second: What if you make the measures a bit longer (let's say 5/4 instead
of 4/4), and place a rest at the end of each measure. Or, with the
same result, do in the orchestra players inspector:
voice = "yourVoice"; <press Alt-Return here>
time = time + (rint (measure) * 300 ms);
It means that for the measure 1 (they start with 0) notes will
come 300 milliseconds later, for measure 2 by 600ms, etc.
rint is the "whole part" of the measure.
Then produce the whole score.
After that you can see the measure bounds in the sound playing
application, select pieces with the mouse, and press play.
Consider this as a workaround until 1.1 :-)
Later, we will also have other production possibilities than
MLVoice, sound files for example or synthesizers.
The interface is already in there,
and some code, but it has not been tested so I don't want to
make any promises here.
>Questions/comments for Ralf:
>- I didn't see any official release info with the demo package. When
> is the real thing coming, and at what price? (Email this if you
> don't want to risk offending the net.gods. :~)
Scheduled for July 94, with a price near DM 299 ($200). No idea
about distribution to US at this moment. I gave a price now, once
and without repetition. So it doesn't make sense to start flame
wars - i won't do it anymore ;-) This single-user license
will include free minor upgrades for a period of time.
>- Ways to speed-enter scores would be very useful. E.g. keyboard a-g
> for notes, other short-cuts for note duration, etc;
The most important thing is to have input from MIDI - it is
the fastest way and is planned for 1.2.
Entering notes - try Alt-drag from the previous note.
Note duration - try arrow-up / down keys.
>ways to
> replicate keys, time signatures, etc. across bars.
I'm not shure I understood exactly what you mean. Try Alt-drag.
Keys are in effect until the end of the staff, time signatures
over staff boundaries until the next time signature.
Nevertheless, MLScore is at it's very beginning, let's see what
the future will show.
>- There are some little gremlins with the interface. E.g. dragging
> pallette elements in MLScore, and then dropping them on the pallette
> itself leaves some clutter behind;
The view you drag to tries to show you where it will place
the element when you drop it. With mouse moving this looks
like clutter. But - it's not a bug, it's a feature :-)
Maybe I'll give it a better optical view by only drawing a shadow -
let's see.
>time-consuming activities in
> MLProducer could use some user-feedback while things are going on.
Sure.
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
Ralf
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From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Information about PencilMeIn needed
Date: 1 Jun 1994 19:45:41 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2sioh5$1fo@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I am looking for information about the group scheduling application called
PencilMeIn. Does anyone know how to contact the company who makes this
application? Is it available for NEXTSTEP Intel? Most importantly, does
anyone know where I can get my hands on a demo version for Intel?
Thank You,
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Emacs-4.0 and keyboardbindings and more
In-Reply-To: arneha@ifi.uio.no's message of 1 Jun 1994 15:41:53 +0200
To: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth)
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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:39:49 GMT
In article <2si371$llg@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no> arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth) writes:
How come I have to use [RET] instead of [return] when defining keys in my
.emacs -file when it works fine with [return] on emacs for X. (I would like to
be able to share my .emacs file between differen platforms).
RET is the code you get from the keyboard e.g. under termcap, return
is what you get under X. Starting in 4.04 (as of yet unreleased)
Emacs generates the X symbols instead of the termcap symbols mainly
because it allows you to rebind backspace (i.e. shift delete key) to
delete-characters and still use ctrl-h as the help key.
By the way I get an error (missing parameter or something) when I start tex
from Emacs-4.0, is this a known bug ?
Without a more precise description, it is hard to tell. Maybe you
haven't set your tex-dvi-view-command ? Try something like this:
(setq tex-dvi-view-command
(cond
((eq window-system 'x) "xdvi")
((eq window-system 'ns) "open *")
(t "dvi2tty * | cat -s")))
And last, would it be a good idea to make emacs able to read and show rtf-files
(wysiwig)?
That would be very difficult and well neigh impossible until the FSF
supports things like proportional fonts.
Carl Edman
From: dgries@io.org (DGRIES)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SCREEN like program
Date: 1 Jun 1994 18:21:04 -0400
Organization: Internex Online (io.org) Data: 416-363-4151 Voice: 416-363-8676
Message-ID: <2sj1kg$j0d@ionews.io.org>
Is there a program available for NeXT that is similar to UNIX's
'screen' program. I want something that will allow to me, after I
telnet to my NeXT system, to run some text applications and detach
the processes, then log back in later and re-attach the process.
Does anyone know where I can get such a beast?
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From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle)
Subject: I want perl to be insecure
Message-ID: <1994Jun1.223447.4115@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us>
Organization: Little to None
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:34:47 GMT
I would like to run suid scripts under perl. And I don't have a compiler on
that machine, so the whole wrapsuid script doesn't do me much good... My
system is VERY secure; it's not on the net. Since the only real access to
the machine is is physical I'm not worried about a couple of suid scripts.
Is it possible for me to get a copy of perl that will allow suid scripts?
Thanks,
Kurt
From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MusicBuilder under NS3.0
Date: 2 Jun 1994 00:08:54 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland
Message-ID: <2sj7um$9d@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz>
Summary: does MB work under NS3.0?
Keywords: Music, NeXT
Although I read the readme on MusicBuilder saying it would
work under NS3.1 and 3.2, I decided to give it a go under
my 3.0 (black cube). Superficially there seemed to be no
problems, until I tried to get any sound happening (and a
few other problems).
Can anyone comment on the following problems? I would like
to know whether they may be due to 3.0 incompatibilities,
or whether I'm just doing things wrong (I suspect the latter
is _not_ the case)...
Problem 1: I cannot load the example files in either
MLScore.app or MLVoice.app (MLOrchestra files load OK).
Attempting this gives "I/O error -- Can't open file or
invalid file format."
2: The icon for all example files is simply the edit icon.
This seems surprising as most are typed streams, and can
only be usefully opened in their relevant applications. If
this is not as it is supposed to be, it could be related to
problem 1.
3: Dragging appropriate demo files into the Score and
Orchestra wells in MLProducer and trying to "Interprete
score" (sic) results in the same error as above.
4: Dragging raw notes created in MLScore into the Raw Notes
well only gives a modified notelist if I use
Simple.orchestra-ml, not any of the other two example
orchestra files.
5: Even with seemingly correct Modified notelists
(including ones created the long way, using each
application), "Assemble Voices" gives the same I/O error.
Note: the icon on this error window is that of MLVoice.app,
so I guess it's having trouble opening the voices.
If anyone can offer any advice, or has had the same problems
whilst running NS3.1 or 3.2, I'd be interested to hear.
Looks like a stunning app. I'd love to have a little
documentation on it. Thanks to mmalcolm for his brief and
invaluable net tutorial.
Steve
steve.brandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dbrad@turing.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Looking for RBROUSER
Message-ID: <Cqqsr9.MDB@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: Looking for ftp site where RBROWSER can be found
Keywords: RBROWSER ftp site / directory
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
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Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 23:47:33 GMT
Looking for ftp archive for RBROWSER.
Thanks,
David
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From: dbrad@turing.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Looking for a Book on Wingz
Message-ID: <Cqqsu8.MIE@ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: Wingz spreadsheet - book
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 23:49:20 GMT
Anyone know the title/author/publisher of a good book on
the Wingz spreadsheet?
Thanks, David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Date: 2 Jun 1994 00:52:03 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2sjafj$sem@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <940530234808.2218AACUO.malc@jeeves> <2sg87c$7f3@uropax.contrib.de> <2sgrl8$iv4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <2sio2k$jgg@uropax.contrib.de>
suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow) writes:
>dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) writes:
>>Well, I must agree with Malcolm. MusicBuilder looks like a very
>>cool piece of work. I've been playing with it this evening, and
>>am impressed. Some of the orchestra side goes past what I'm into,
>>but the concept is really neat.
>If it is while copy/paste players then this is a known bug with the
>demo app (sorry). If not - could you please describe it more precisely?
I'm not complaining of problems, merely saying that the functionality
is beyond what I would personally need or use, except for goofing
around.
>>Now all I need is some SERIOUS hardware to run the thing. My main
>>interest, aside from playing around, is supporting the learning of
>>choral parts during individual practise. (I'm a lame keyboardist. :~)
>>Using MusicBuilder to flip back and forth between snatches of a piece
>>would be laborious because of the time delay in producing the .snd
>>files on my old black slab. Nothing some hot hardware wouldn't help.
>>:~)
>The fastest Hardware now for NEXTSTEP (probably a 755 HP machine) is
>not more than 5 - 10 times faster than your and my "old slabs". This is
>not enough to solve your problem,
Darn! Now I can't use that as justification to my wife for me to buy
an HP! :~)
>so we need to look for a software
>solution:
>First of all, I already thought out additional enhancements to the
>producer. For example: if nothing changed but only the measure selection
>wheels position, MLProducer doesnt need to rebuild the parts is
>already produced before. This is an advantage of the non-real-time principle
>but I did not use the whole potential that is in it.
>At the moment, I'm writing a manual. Then, the final release will go out.
>After that, I'll prepare a 1.1 release with enhancements in producer
>speed and score layout / handling.
Sounds reasonable.
>Second: What if you make the measures a bit longer (let's say 5/4 instead
>of 4/4), and place a rest at the end of each measure. Or, with the
>same result, do in the orchestra players inspector:
>voice = "yourVoice"; <press Alt-Return here>
>time = time + (rint (measure) * 300 ms);
>It means that for the measure 1 (they start with 0) notes will
>come 300 milliseconds later, for measure 2 by 600ms, etc.
>rint is the "whole part" of the measure.
>Then produce the whole score.
>After that you can see the measure bounds in the sound playing
>application, select pieces with the mouse, and press play.
>Consider this as a workaround until 1.1 :-)
Yes, this could be done, as long as I don't memorize the unnatural
pauses when playing across several of them. :~)
>>Questions/comments for Ralf:
>>- Ways to speed-enter scores would be very useful. E.g. keyboard a-g
>> for notes, other short-cuts for note duration, etc;
>The most important thing is to have input from MIDI - it is
>the fastest way and is planned for 1.2.
It is the fastest, for competent keyboardists. For less able ones,
such as myself, ASCII keyboard entry of notes and durations would
provide a quick speed-up for little software effort, I would think.
>Entering notes - try Alt-drag from the previous note.
>Note duration - try arrow-up / down keys.
I hadn't found those yet. Thanks.
>Nevertheless, MLScore is at it's very beginning, let's see what
>the future will show.
Good things, I hope. :~)
>>- There are some little gremlins with the interface. E.g. dragging
>> palette elements in MLScore, and then dropping them on the palette
>> itself leaves some clutter behind;
>The view you drag to tries to show you where it will place
>the element when you drop it. With mouse moving this looks
>like clutter. But - it's not a bug, it's a feature :-)
>Maybe I'll give it a better optical view by only drawing a shadow -
>let's see.
Actually, it really *is* clutter. Drag a palette item and drop it
within the palette. It doesn't disappear from where you dropped it,
but stays there. You can do this many times, totally covering the
palette with a jumble of elements.
>Thank you very much for your suggestions.
No problem. I'm just an amateur, but I have fun anyway.
Royce Howland
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: valdes@geosun.uchicago.edu (John Valdes)
Subject: Problems with PPP on NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Jun2.022131.4941@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 02:21:31 GMT
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 2 Jun 1994 03:03:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sji5l$es6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
In article <SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu
(Alexander Swietlicki) writes:
> In article <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> Yes, class 2 has become official. By your logic, though, NeXT shouldn't
> be shipping a compiler, since their version of gcc is always
"out-of-date
> and buggy". The fax button in the print panel is there for a reason.
> And there *are* two drivers included (HSD and Interfax). Class 2 used
to
> be there, but it was broken. NeXT's fix? Removal. Let's hope it comes
> back fixed in 3.3.
>
Was the Class 2.0 fax standard approved far enough in advance of the
release of NS 3.2 (including the beta test period) that a 2.0 driver could
have reasonably been included? How many modems that were available when
3.2 was being written conformed to the final 2.0 standard?
I find your compiler comparison to be pretty pointless. Compilers have
been offered by OS vendors for as long as compilable computer languages
have existed, but the set of device drivers included by OS vendors hasn't
generally included fax modem drivers. That's one of those products that
can better be handled by 3rd-party vendors with specialized knowledge
about modems, etc. Expecting NeXT to provide a fax driver that can't work
with most modems and fax machines because the Class 2.0 standard hasn't
been fully implemented would be a major maintenance headache. NeXT has
more important things to do.
> NeXT used to be a company that handled an OS _and_ hardware. Now that
it
> just deals with software, there's no excuse. It should "just work" in
> every aspect. If NeXT simply supports the Class 2 standard, then if
there
> are problems, users can complain to the modem companies for ROM bugfixes
> until the modem meets the standard as well. (BTW, the old excuse was
> that the class 2 spec. wasn't finalized yet. That no longer applies.)
>
But users would complain to NeXT and the finger pointing would start.
NeXT laid off essentially all their hardware division so the change didn't
free up all these people to work on a fax driver.
> Yeah. It evilly reconfigures the modem.
I quake at the thought of even asking what evilness has been going on
in my office for about 2 years with no apparent "evil" consequences :-)
> As for the cost, that's almost half the price of NEXTSTEP w/the edu
discount.
> NEXTSTEP is much more than a fax driver, you know...
>
OS software is priced far under all other types of software considering
its capabilities.
> $135 is also _more_ than some of the new faxmodems, which come bundled
with
> drivers for other systems.
>
Welcome to the low-volume world of NEXTSTEP. If pricing is so
important to you, Windows sounds like the OS for you.
> I don't know. My slab can't send or receive any faxes. :/
License NXFax and you won't have any problems sending or receiving
faxes. It's truly plug-and-play.
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
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From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
Subject: Re: NS/I boot manager eraised after upgrading DOS 6.0 to 6.2(solved)
Message-ID: <1994Jun2.034349.16117@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Originator: blanford@arkenstone
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 03:43:49 GMT
In article <2sibed$n5t@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng
Liu) writes:
> >
> Thanks to everyone who replied to my post. I used the following and
> got back the bootmanager.
> boot Nextstep, login as root and then
>
> disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rhd0h
>
Just for those who, like me, are a little slow, it took a good ten minutes
of puzzling before I figured out how to boot NextStep without the boot
manager in place. Of course the answer is simple once it occurs to you:
reboot using the distribution floppy and when the boot: prompt appears,
type a question mark to get instructions. What you most likely want to do
is boot using sd()mach_kernel.
-- Ron
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 2 Jun 1994 04:47:30 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote:
> I'm certainly no fax driver expert, but making a fax driver part of the
>OS would guarantee that it would always be out-of-date and "buggy". Is
>class 2 a finished standard yet? Whether it is or not, new fax features
>are continuously appearing in fax machines/modems (how many new ROM
>versions for your fax modem have been released since you purchased?).
>Only a small, agile company specializing in fax drivers can hope to keep
>up with the changes.
> And then there's the issue of dealing with buggy implementations of the
>fax protocol in cheap fax machines that sell by the millions. This must
>require custom microcode. Would an OS vendor have the expertise and
>desire to keep its driver working with these buggy fax machines? I doubt
>it.
> So I'll gladly pay $135 to Black & White for their fax driver (it's
>much more than a fax driver you know - it automatically senses whether a
>fax or data call has arrived and does the right thing accordingly). How
>many "bad" faxes do you have to send and receive before you've spent over
>$135 on long-distance phone calls and lost time? Not many...
>---
>Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
I second you Art. I have got the NXFax and I'm very happy with it.
I just hope the scanner is cheap enough for me to fax more general documents!
Hopefully, NXFax will also work as an answering machine soon.....
then no one will complaint.
Andy
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From: valdes@geosun.uchicago.edu (John Valdes)
Subject: Problems with PPP on NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Jun2.051551.10843@midway.uchicago.edu>
Keywords: ppp, NeXT
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
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References: <1994Jun2.022131.4941@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 05:15:51 GMT
Hmmm, somehow my post disappeared; let's try again...
Hello all,
I've been trying to setup a PPP link between a Sun running ppp-2.1 and
a NeXT running next-ppp-0.3 (the NeXT port of ppp-1.something done by
Miron Cuperman, miron@extropia.wimsey.com) and NEXTSTEP 3.2. PPP on
the Sun seems to work fine, as I can use PPP between it and non-NeXT
systems w/o any problems. With the NeXT system, however, I've only had
partial success. I can establish the link between the two systems
(dialout from the NeXT into the Sun), but everything doesn't work.
Specifically, I'm unable to use telnet, rlogin, and ftp (and probably
others) to/from the NeXT, but I can ping, do DNS lookups, rup, rdate,
etc. Also, when I terminate the client ppp daemon on the NeXT, the
server pppd on the Sun doesn't terminate, thus preventing the getty on
the Sun from restarting to handle incoming calls again. I have to
login to the Sun and manually send a SIGHUP to pppd to free the serial
line.
The NeXT (standalone) dials into the Sun (on ethernet) with chat,
starts 'pppd passive proxyarp' on the Sun, then starts 'ppp /dev/cub
38400' on itself. Once the link is established, when trying to telnet
from the NeXT to any machine, telnet will report that the connection is
established, but then hang before displaying the login prompt. On the
Sun, the following errors are logged:
pppd[14114]: demuxprotrej: Unrecognized Protocol-Reject for protocol 47!
pppd[14114]: demuxprotrej: Unrecognized Protocol-Reject for protocol 45!
when telnet is trying to establish the connection. The same happens
with rlogin and ftp. No error messages are logged by the server pppd
when the client ppp disconnects.
Has anyone using ppp on a NeXT had this problem and know how to fix it?
Any help or suggestions are welcomed.
John
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From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Re: Information about PencilMeIn needed
Message-ID: <CqrHIH.16s@eunet.ch>
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:42:16 GMT
In article <2sioh5$1fo@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> I am looking for information about the group scheduling application
called
> PencilMeIn. Does anyone know how to contact the company who makes this
> application? Is it available for NEXTSTEP Intel? Most importantly,
does
> anyone know where I can get my hands on a demo version for Intel?
>
> Thank You,
> Eric
>
The company is called Sarrus.
Try at info@sarrus.com
They are in the bay area. We are using there scheduling app since some
time and love it. I here that they now also have an API.
I think there is a demo version on the last CD (NS User).
Hope this helps,
Alexander Lamb
Lamb Software Design / Expert Quantitative Trading
Geneva / Switzerland
From: swiet@galileo.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 02 Jun 1994 06:51:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Jun2025133@galileo.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
<SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
<MDW.94Jun1084803@laura.jazz.att.com>
In-reply-to: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com's message of Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:48:03 GMT
In article <MDW.94Jun1084803@laura.jazz.att.com> mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest) writes:
In article <SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) writes:
>Yes, class 2 has become official.
Just to be a snot (SOMEone's gotta do it!), I'll point out that the
"Official Standard" (ahem) is Class 2.0.
Forgive me. Class 2-dot-oh. That's the one NeXT should support in 3.3.
From: gshaw@gpl.com (George Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Graphic Converters
Date: 2 Jun 1994 11:50:39 GMT
Organization: Genesis Project Ltd, Belfast, Northern Ireland
Message-ID: <2skh2f$4bj@errigle.gpl.net>
Keywords: gif,graphics,converters,pbmplus
Anyone have any pointers to an app that will convert NeXT .tiff (from
Grab) to a (DOS/Windows).gif format. I have tried pbmplus but it won't
compile on 3.2-Intel, (if anyone has done this I would be gratefull if you
could let me have the binary). I have a large number to convert, so a
batch option would be usefull. I also tried SDC image tools but it could
not load the 24bit format?
George Shaw
M-Director
Genesis Project Ltd
International Trade Centre Belfast "Interpoint"
20-24 York Street
BELFAST
BT15 9AQ
Tel: +44 232 231622
eMail: gshaw@gpl.com (NeXT OK)
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for RBROUSER
Date: 2 Jun 1994 12:25:50 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2skj4e$nlc@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <Cqqsr9.MDB@ucdavis.edu>
In article <Cqqsr9.MDB@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@turing.ucdavis.edu
(David Bradford) writes:
>Looking for ftp archive for RBROWSER.
There is only one site: sutro.sfsu.edu [130.212.15.230]
N.B. our systems will deny access to FTP client sites that aren't
properly registered with the DNS.
Although this software is made available free of charge, you may
not redistribute it, nor may copies be placed on other anonymous
FTP sites. These restrictions will be removed once we have a
reasonably stable release. As it is, we're making new versions
public every 2-4 weeks, and still haven't made it to the "1.0"
level.
pub/RBrowser/
README (2K)
RBrowser0.95-fat.tar.Z (848K compressed; 1578K uncompressed)
RelNotes (7K)
This version speeds up background file transfers and fixes
several bugs in the 0.93 release. It supports both m68k
and i486 processors running either NS 3.1 or 3.2.
Please be sure to obtain (and read!) the Release Notes--they
contain important information not mentioned anywhere else.
[For those of you who don't know what RBrowser is--it provides a
Workspace Manager-like File Viewer interface to other UNIX and
UNIX-like systems without requiring NFS access, root privileges,
or arcane system administration skills. Because it employs
widely available networking protocols and common UNIX commands,
in most cases, nothing needs to be installed on remote systems,
nothing needs to be compiled, and very little needs to be
configured. Also, while we don't _officially_ recommend RBrowser
for low-speed serial connections, several users have reported
satisfaction with CSLIP, PPP, and term.]
Please send bug reports (only) to rbrowser-bugs@cs.sfsu.edu--
all other RBrowser-related traffic should go to
rbrowser-request@cs.sfsu.edu.
-=EPS=-
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From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
In-Reply-To: swiet@galileo.cs.jhu.edu's message of 02 Jun 1994 06:51:33 GMT
Message-ID: <MDW.94Jun2084733@laura.jazz.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:47:33 GMT
In article <SWIET.94Jun2025133@galileo.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@galileo.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) writes:
>In article <MDW.94Jun1084803@laura.jazz.att.com> mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest) writes:
> In article <SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) writes:
> >Yes, class 2 has become official.
> Just to be a snot (SOMEone's gotta do it!), I'll point out that the
> "Official Standard" (ahem) is Class 2.0.
>Forgive me. Class 2-dot-oh. That's the one NeXT should support in 3.3.
No problem. You're forgiven. ;-)
FWIW, it *is* important. There *are* differences between Class 2 and
Class 2.0.
--
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mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com | or anyone else for that matter.
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Information about PencilMeIn needed
Message-ID: <1994Jun2.084745.10178@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2sioh5$1fo@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:47:45 GMT
In article <2sioh5$1fo@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> I am looking for information about the group scheduling application
called
> PencilMeIn. Does anyone know how to contact the company who makes this
> application? Is it available for NEXTSTEP Intel? Most importantly,
does
> anyone know where I can get my hands on a demo version for Intel?
It is made by Sarrus; info@sarrus.com; it runs on Intel; and you should
ask Sarrus :-). There was a demo version on the 3rd Party Applications
disk that came with 3.1.
Paul
--
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Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN and HP-NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <Cqrw15.J11@bldrdoc.gov>
Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
References: <1994May31.222224.19544@atd.rochester.ny.us>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:55:52 GMT
Al Davis writes
> Why is f2c any less accurate than any other language? Isn't a double
> a double?
man f2c
..
BUGS
Floating-point constant expressions are simplified in the
floating-point arithmetic of the machine running f2c, so
they are typically accurate to at most 16 or 17 decimal
places.
Untypable EXTERNAL functions are declared int.
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with PPP on NeXT
Date: 2 Jun 1994 11:19:19 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices)
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References: <1994Jun2.022131.4941@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1994Jun2.022131.4941@midway.uchicago.edu>, valdes@geosun.uchicago.edu (John Valdes) writes:
>
Looks like has problems posting as well. What kinda PPP problem is it? Which
PPP are you running?
------
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Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
http://stravinsky.anderson-lab.american.edu:3001
"I did not say this. I am not here..."
--- Third Stage Guild Navigator
_Dune_
From: fletcher@nova.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Creating HTML documents?
Date: 2 Jun 1994 13:08:33 -0400
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Message-ID: <2sl3mh$mlf@nova.umd.edu>
References: <1994May18.190135.1081@prim.demon.co.uk> <1994May26.082008.7560@proximus.north.de> <2sb2kn$eob@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
In article <2sb2kn$eob@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>,
Hal Varian <hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu> wrote:
>
>There is an HTMLEdit.app but I tend to use html-mode.el in emacs.
>Another sensible thing to do is to write your document in LaTeX
>and use latex2html.
>
>
Also, CERN should be (or has) releasing its Frame to HTML
filter which (should) support graphics, equations, tables,
etc. Since FrameMaker supports hyperlinks this may be a way
to go (FM is now the "official" gov doc processing software
and is getting more popular. Thus we (I?) hope to see it back
under NEXTSTEP.)
Charlie (hi Hal)
>
>--
>Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
>voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
>fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
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| brother wizards.
From: alby@uunet.uu.net (Anthony Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with PPP on NeXT
Date: 2 Jun 1994 13:17:25 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices)
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References: <1994Jun2.022131.4941@midway.uchicago.edu> <2skt9n$3bv@shiva.UU.NET>
Keywords: ppp NeXT
I remember back in the day when I had all these funny PPP problems.
I've modded the ppp_3.0 program and now it works 100% of the time and it
was free of charge.
I'm thinking about placing the 100% workable PPP for NeXT's to
an FTP site. Any recommendations on if I should chose cs.orst.edu or
sonata.cc.purdue.edu as a site to submit my modded program?
-Alby
In article <2skt9n$3bv@shiva.UU.NET>, mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) writes:
>
>In article <1994Jun2.022131.4941@midway.uchicago.edu>, valdes@geosun.uchicago.edu (John Valdes) writes:
>>
>
> Looks like has problems posting as well. What kinda PPP problem is it? Which
>PPP are you running?
>
>------
>Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net
>Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
> http://stravinsky.anderson-lab.american.edu:3001
>
>"I did not say this. I am not here..."
> --- Third Stage Guild Navigator
> _Dune_
>
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:04:34 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sl6vi$suk@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2s6ms6$8hu@digifix.digifix.com>
Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote:
: > And $135 for drivers that should be already PART of NEXTSTEP to aid
: > a piece of hardware costing about the same price is ludicrous.
: This is rediculous.... why is that such a ludicrous price?
Because it means we're paying a fifth of the cost of the ENTIRE OS for
a single, simple driver.
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From: tgall@oliverwjones.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VirtSpace
Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:32:59 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sl8kr$1so9@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Hi all,
Anyone know if the folks who handle virtspace are still around?
Not to mention if there is an Intel version?
I tried giving them a ring and an answering machine picked up but it sounded
like a home phone and not a business.
Sent some email to virtspace@pri.com ... the message didn't bounce but I
didn't get a responce either.
The things ya gotta do just to buy a piece of software!
--
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|o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o|
|o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o|
|o| - Marvin Martian |o|
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|o| tgall@online.apple.com (home - Newton Mail) |o|
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:55:49 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2sl9vl$pgd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2s6ms6$8hu@digifix.digifix.com>
In article <2s6ms6$8hu@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com writes:
>Alexander Swietlicki writes
>> I wouldn't. I'd like to see it as a working part of NEXTSTEP, where it
>> belongs. If NeXT is going to have a fax button on the print panel, it
>> should support some common faxmodems, or a least class 2 properly.
> Just because NeXT supports a Fax capability that is actually integrated
>into the OS, doesn't mean that they should support every fax-modem on the
>planet.
Why not? Why are fax drivers any different than serial port drivers?
Countless people have complained that NeXT's serial port driver doesn't work,
and people expect the driver to be fixed. Why should it be any different
for fax? I too agree that if NeXT is going to advertise that they have
fax support in their OS that they should also include at least a halfway
decent fax driver for the 3 or 4 most popular modems. This would not prevent
third parties from selling more advanced fax software that actually does
something besides just drive the fax to work.
My only beef is that NeXT tells you they have fax support, but that is not
the whole story.
Eric
From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Date: 2 Jun 1994 20:56:34 +0200
Organization: Contributed Software GbR
Message-ID: <2sla12$4f5@uropax.contrib.de>
References: <940530234808.2218AACUO.malc@jeeves> <2sg87c$7f3@uropax.contrib.de> <2sgrl8$iv4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <2sio2k$jgg@uropax.contrib.de> <2sjafj$sem@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) writes:
>suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow) writes:
>>dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) writes:
>>>am impressed. Some of the orchestra side goes past what I'm into,
>>>but the concept is really neat.
>>If it is while copy/paste players then this is a known bug with the
>>demo app (sorry). If not - could you please describe it more precisely?
>I'm not complaining of problems, merely saying that the functionality
>is beyond what I would personally need or use, except for goofing
>around.
Woof, it was only I understood you wrong due to my poor english .-)
>>The most important thing is to have input from MIDI - it is
>>the fastest way and is planned for 1.2.
>It is the fastest, for competent keyboardists. For less able ones,
>such as myself, ASCII keyboard entry of notes and durations would
>provide a quick speed-up for little software effort, I would think.
MusicBuilder has been created for people not perfectly playing
on a keyboard. So I agree keyboard entry to be useful.
Do you know of any good schema know, maybe from a widely known notation
program?
>Actually, it really *is* clutter. Drag a palette item and drop it
>within the palette. It doesn't disappear from where you dropped it,
>but stays there. You can do this many times, totally covering the
>palette with a jumble of elements.
When you drag, you can move or copy.
In a palette, default is copy, Alt-Drag means to move.
In a score, default is move, Alt-Drag means copy.
I.e.you created a lot of elements. This may be useful
when you want to prepare changed elements for further use,
maybe on a custom palette.
Best regards,
Ralf
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From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MusicBuilder under NS3.0
Date: 2 Jun 1994 21:15:31 +0200
Organization: Contributed Software GbR
Message-ID: <2slb4j$4lo@uropax.contrib.de>
References: <2sj7um$9d@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz>
Keywords: Music, NeXT
sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon) writes:
>Can anyone comment on the following problems? I would like
>to know whether they may be due to 3.0 incompatibilities,
>or whether I'm just doing things wrong (I suspect the latter
>is _not_ the case)...
You are doing right.
We have 2 problems here and a feature.
>Problem 1: I cannot load the example files in either
>MLScore.app or MLVoice.app (MLOrchestra files load OK).
>Attempting this gives "I/O error -- Can't open file or
>invalid file format."
>3: Dragging appropriate demo files into the Score and
>Orchestra wells in MLProducer and trying to "Interprete
>score" (sic) results in the same error as above.
>5: Even with seemingly correct Modified notelists
>(including ones created the long way, using each
>application), "Assemble Voices" gives the same I/O error.
>Note: the icon on this error window is that of MLVoice.app,
>so I guess it's having trouble opening the voices.
Probably, 3.0 differs from 3.1/3.2 in typed streams format
at some point. I did not test it under 3.0, and with 3.1 they
introduced the Intel Port. MLProducer calls MLScore and MLVoice
to do the work for it, so 1., 3., and 5. are the same error.
Since I don't have access to a 3.0 machine, I cannot
promise a fix in the near future. (You know, 3.1 is much
faster and stable, and you can get inexpensive second-hand copies now!)
>2: The icon for all example files is simply the edit icon.
>This seems surprising as most are typed streams, and can
>only be usefully opened in their relevant applications. If
>this is not as it is supposed to be, it could be related to
>problem 1.
Curtis Bahn complained about a related problem, probably with
Installation. Are the Apps in ~/Apps or /LocalApps ? Did
you do View/Update Viewers in Workspace after installation?
I didn't get new info from Curtis yet, but I'll post when we
solved the problem.
>4: Dragging raw notes created in MLScore into the Raw Notes
>well only gives a modified notelist if I use
>Simple.orchestra-ml, not any of the other two example
>orchestra files.
This is a feature. In the Orchestra, the players have a part attribute
(look at the inspector). In Simple.orchestra, the player plays
the "all" part. This is also the default in MLScore. The other
orchestras play the "low" and "high" parts. Drag "part" elements to
the staves and name them "high" or "low" with inspector!
Best regards,
Ralf
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From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: which X for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994Jun2.153108.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 20:31:08 GMT
I'm interested in running X on NS/FIP 3.x and am curious as to the features of
the various versions of X available for NS. I am new to X (and to NeXt in
general) but I'd like to be able to swap between X applications and NeXt
applications without too much difficultly. Running both simultaneously would
be the ultimate solution. And of course, price is always an issue - I am but
a student of meager means. I've seen discussion in the newsgroups about mouseX
and also CubX. I'd appreciate it if anyone would share their experiences with
either of these products, or another X product I am unaware of.
Thanks in advance.
Scott Davenport
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis)
Subject: Re: bbs source
Message-ID: <1994Jun2.172436.1780@atd.rochester.ny.us>
Sender: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis)
Organization: Huh?
References: <2sfd22$ht3@olorin.dark.sub.org>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 17:24:36 GMT
Thomas Fischer writes
> I'm looking for a BBS package (source and for free preferred, of course)
> for a NeXT...
> I believe there's no BBS software (maybe commercial) with NS-support ?!?
> So I guess a simple unix BBS would do the job - but I have no idea which
> works under Mach/BSD - does xbbs ?
xbbs (and several others) work if you play with them. There are several
available with source. BUT, they all look like standard PC bulletin boards.
Single letter commands with help screens (also known as "menus"). The "expert
mode" that lets you turn off the menus once you have memorized them, ... If
this is what you want, just get an old 8088, a PC based bulletin board
package, and go to it.
It seems to me that with **ix (NeXT, Linux, etc.) we can do much better by
throwing away the concepts of the monolithic bulletin board, the dozens of
single letter commands, .. What makes more sense is to use the **ix tools
(mail, cnews, rn, nn, tin, elm, uucp, sz, rz, kermit, ...) and a restricted
shell to make one. It seems to me that this should be much easier to
administrate and beat the pants off any DOS like bulletin board. New features
can be added without dumping the whole package.
A group of us here are reworking a bulletin board. It will be based on Linux
and an assortment of tools that are already available. Maybe when we get it
working we will assemble a "package" so that others can install it without
searching for everything.
al.
From: mjt@is.us.swissbank.com (Mike Trogni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ttydsp status ?
Date: 2 Jun 1994 09:12:34 GMT
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sk7q2$ad8@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
is the ttydsp package still available ? I'm getting into modeming again
and have heard there are lots of benefits to using my cube DSP for this
kind of thing.
-mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: samr@wri.com
Subject: Re: VirtSpace
Message-ID: <samr.770591889@dragonfly.wri.com>
Sender: news@wri.com ( )
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
References: <2sl8kr$1so9@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 21:18:09 GMT
In <2sl8kr$1so9@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> tgall@oliverwjones.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes:
> Anyone know if the folks who handle virtspace are still around?
> Not to mention if there is an Intel version?
> I tried giving them a ring and an answering machine picked up but it sounded
>like a home phone and not a business.
> Sent some email to virtspace@pri.com ... the message didn't bounce but I
>didn't get a responce either.
> The things ya gotta do just to buy a piece of software!
i went through this same thing about 5 months ago. sent in a check,
and received the software for black about 6 weeks later. they didnt respond
to email or phone and i had no idea what was going on....but eventually
i did get the software. (by the way, it is a great piece of software!)
The current address on the invoice is:
170 University Ave. W.
Suite 12, #156
Waterloo, Ontario
N2L 3E9
there was no phone number...
--
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samr@wri.com 100 Trade Center Drive P.O. Box 6173
Champaign, IL 61820 Champaign, IL 61826-6173
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From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help Me, I'm an Idiot!!!
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 02:03:38
Organization: Clubside
Message-ID: <chris.7.00020F94@clubside.digex.net>
Summary: i don't know what i'm doing
Keywords: help install general
I admit it. I'm an idiot. I've used DOS, Windows, Mac, Apple ][, the works.
But nothing could prepare me for this.
I don't understand UNIX. I don't understand the underpinings of NeXTSTEP.
I'm an idiot, and I need help... DESPERATELY!!!
After mucho frustration, I finally got NeXTSTEP for Intel 3.2 up and running
(the first time). Now, how do I continue on the Internet. I've been running
Windows Sockets applications for months, and setup required me to fill in a
few boxes with internet address, name nerver and the like, and it was up
without a hitch.
A nice user pointed me in the way of TranSys' PNI product, and I gave it a
whirl. Version 1.7. Yes, the date had expired. I jumped around in the docs,
but since I couldn't print them, I was frustrated. I got version 1.9, and
tried it. Partial success.
Here's where I need help:
DeskJet Driver: I was informed of a deskjet driver, djf_for_3.0.tar.Z, which I
tracked down at ftp.uwasa.fi and installed. While it talks about 3.0, it does
not talk of Intel. Or a parallel port. Suffice to say, after installing it it
managed to print nothing but actual Postscript code and garnage. Has anyone
gotten this driver to work on the parallel port? Is there a driver somewhere
else (even for sale) that definately works on the parallel port? I need to
print!
SLIP: While I got PNI 1.9 to connect, I had no access to a nameserver, even
though I created the resolve file and put in the appropriate information. I
was told by someone else that this resole file is only loaded at boot, so if
PNI is not activated at boot time (it locks my system at boot, but runs fine
in a terminal window manually), I can never have access to names. In addition,
the carrier I use, Digital Express, had a nice file explaining how to use host
manager to set up mail and other host files, in addition to local information.
Part of this worked, but not the hostconfig, which would never let me change
the internet address or hostname. If I edited hostconfig manully, at boot time
I locked with the system trying to log onto the network (without ever SLIP
dialing).
Basically, I need LOADS of help!!! The NeXT techies have been great on the
phone with other problems (one of which I finally solved myself, where I
thought the display driver dies, instead the boot screen had gone blank but
the network startup was locked up which is why I never got a display), but
obviously they aren't there to support PD software.
Please, anyone, I'm on my knees. I want to learn UNIX. I want to run a silly
MOO and send E-Mail. From NeXTSTEP, not Windows.
Thank you, sorry for being an idiot.
Chris
From: rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu (Richard J. Foote)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SCREEN like program
Date: 2 Jun 1994 23:16:45 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Message-ID: <2slp8t$79r@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <2sj1kg$j0d@ionews.io.org>
Why not screen? It's on prep.ai.mit.edu, and I'm pretty sure that at least
a black executable is available on orst.
---
Richard J. Foote
School of Public Health
University of Michigan
rfoote@umich.edu
In article <2sj1kg$j0d@ionews.io.org> dgries@io.org (DGRIES) writes:
> Is there a program available for NeXT that is similar to UNIX's
> 'screen' program. I want something that will allow to me, after I
> telnet to my NeXT system, to run some text applications and detach
> the processes, then log back in later and re-attach the process.
> Does anyone know where I can get such a beast?
>
> --
> -----|----- Dustin Griesdorf (Kid Hacker!) of Toronto, Ontario,
Canada
> *>=====[_]L) E-MAIL: dgries@io.org IRC: DataLore
> -'-- W-W-W: http://www.io.org/~dgries
> ____________ **FINGER FOR PGP KEY**_____________"Trust No
One"_______________
--
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School of Public Health | of intelligent, informed computer
University of Michigan | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people
rfoote@umich.edu | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 02 Jun 1994 22:44:59 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jun2234459@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2s6ms6$8hu@digifix.digifix.com>
<2sl6vi$suk@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
<sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
>Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote:
>: > And $135 for drivers that should be already PART of NEXTSTEP to aid
>: > a piece of hardware costing about the same price is ludicrous.
>: This is rediculous.... why is that such a ludicrous price?
>Because it means we're paying a fifth of the cost of the ENTIRE OS for
>a single, simple driver.
Well why don't you develop your own fax driver then? I'm sure you
_know_ people who can do that.
What do think the backlash would be like if NeXT put B&W and DFax out
of business by releasing a driver?
--
"Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies"
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(ASCII for text only messages)
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: What're the HSD and Interfax driver on PrintManager?
Date: 3 Jun 1994 00:35:28 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2sltsg$64q@news.iastate.edu>
Ok, a very simple question... Why HSD and Interfax, but not Hayes, Zyxel or
whatever more common modem in the world (be supported on NS)?
Is there a historical reason?
Why am I asking so many question...? >:)
I'm waiting for the next generation Zyxel which has been claimed that it can
handle FAX better under NS and other multitasking OS. Any comment on this?
I'm not in a great hurry to buy a FAXModem... so wait, right? >:)
Stretching my neck to hear from you guys.
Chris
--
NeXTMail super welcomed!!|
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chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
<:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: bchin@is-next.umd.edu (Bill Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 3 Jun 1994 00:21:32 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Ctr., Univ. of MD, College Park, MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2slt2c$2nd@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2s6ms6$8hu@digifix.digifix.com> <ROBERT.94Jun2234459@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: <sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
: >Because it means we're paying a fifth of the cost of the ENTIRE OS for
: >a single, simple driver.
: What do think the backlash would be like if NeXT put B&W and DFax out
: of business by releasing a driver?
Actually, the driver is only a portion of NXFax. I would still have to
buy NXFax if NeXT released a better Class 2.0 driver because NXFax
can discriminate between data and fax calls, routing the call
to the appropriate service. I can't afford another phone line and
a dedicated fax modem. When viewed in those terms, $135 isn't
that bad (I wouldn't mind if it was cheaper though. :-) )
I do wish that NXFax had am's ZyXEL answering abilities.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 2 Jun 1994 23:37:07 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2slqf3$60n@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2sl6vi$suk@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) writes:
> Because it means we're paying a fifth of the cost of the ENTIRE OS
> for a single, simple driver.
Let's see now, I got DOS and Windows for free with my machine
(and it was worth every penny - they aren't installed), do I
guess people writing drivers for those platforms are supposed
to pay users to run them?
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <2slh24$ste@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Control: cancel <2slh24$ste@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: 3 Jun 1994 00:56:47 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2slv4f$da@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
<2slh24$ste@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Message-ID: <CqsMrJ.6oD@arcane.calgary.ab.ca>
Sender: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox)
Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd.
References: <2sl6vi$suk@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:33:18 GMT
Sean O. Luke writes
Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote:
: > And $135 for drivers that should be already PART of NEXTSTEP to aid
: > a piece of hardware costing about the same price is ludicrous.
: This is rediculous.... why is that such a ludicrous price?
>Because it means we're paying a fifth of the cost of the ENTIRE OS
>for a single, simple driver.
>
As opposed to what? Check out DOS/Windows or the Mac. Most fax software
costs more than the OS.
At least NeXT integrates faxing. After watching people fight with
faxing from Windows, I'm willing to pay $135.
Terry Wilcox
--
Terry Wilcox (terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca)
`Some praise at morning what they blame at night;
But always think the last opinion right.'
- Alexander Pope
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Information about PencilMeIn needed
Message-ID: <1994Jun2.165014.18996@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <2sioh5$1fo@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 16:50:14 GMT
In article <2sioh5$1fo@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
* I am looking for information about the group scheduling
* application called PencilMeIn. Does anyone know how to
* contact the company who makes this application? Is it
* available for NEXTSTEP Intel? Most importantly, does anyone
* know where I can get my hands on a demo version for Intel?
PencilMeIn is created by Sarrus. Here's the contact information:
Sarrus Software
565 Pilgrim Drive, Suite C
Foster City
California 94404
Phone: (415) 345-8950
(800) 995-1963
FAX: (415) 345-9365
E-Mail: info@sarrus.com
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Is there a "defaults" inspector?
References: <2sh7q0$100@crl.crl.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:01:42 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jun2.080142.11724@proximus.north.de>
In article <2sh7q0$100@crl.crl.com>, Chiraprakash Nayak <cnayak@crl.com> wrote:
>Is there such an app/inspector that would allow to check what all
>defaults that a running app supports to allow an easy access to
>setting defaults using dwrite?
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:
/pub/next/Tools/defaults/DefaultMgr.2.0.N.b.tar.gz
Check out sonata or cs in the US.
Gerhard.
From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 03 Jun 1994 02:59:49 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Jun2225950@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2s6ms6$8hu@digifix.digifix.com>
<2sl6vi$suk@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
<ROBERT.94Jun2234459@steffi.demon.co.uk>
In-reply-to: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 02 Jun 1994 22:44:59 GMT
In article <ROBERT.94Jun2234459@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
What do think the backlash would be like if NeXT put B&W and DFax out
of business by releasing a driver?
Backlash? Frankly, if NeXT could put companies out of business by
simply _fixing a driver_ that was/should be part of the OS, then those
companies are in the wrong business.
From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 03 Jun 1994 03:45:53 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Jun2234553@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2s6ms6$8hu@digifix.digifix.com>
In-reply-to: sanguish@digifix.com's message of 28 May 1994 02:03:50 -0400
In article <2s6ms6$8hu@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes:
This is rediculous.... why is [$135] such a ludicrous price?
You have to buy fax software on the PC... or the Mac.... and Delrina is
selling WinFaxPro for about $80.... $135 is pretty reasonable considering
the difference in the size of the market.
First of all, turn to page 549 of the June 1994 Computer Shopper.
I see WinFaxPro for $49.95. There is also something called Fax It,
for $12.95. Most new cheap v.32bis faxmodems in the range of
$129 - $149 come _bundled_ with WinFaxLite. Does $135 still seem
reasonable?
NXFax from Black and White software works, and they should be supported
and encouraged to add additional modem support.... not scorned because they
actually want to make a buck...
Funny, I never specifically named a NEXTSTEP product or company. And what
do you mean by supported? Does marketing software for NEXTSTEP enable one
for some type of charity? Looking at the prices and functionality of some
software, especially the word processing/page layout programs that are
available, one might think so...
If some third party writes a driver for a video card that you would
otherwise be unable to use with NEXTSTEP, why shouldn't they profit from
that?
The market determines whether they can or can't. However, NeXT should
not cease development of video drivers because such a company exists.
It would be wonderful if NeXT was in a position to support more video
drivers for all sorts of weird cards... but thats not the case.
Why not? They're a software company now. When they sold NeXTs
they didn't have to worry about varying hardware. Now they do.
If you want to use NS, either get a card/modem that is compatible,
write a driver yourself, buy a third party driver, or lobby the
manufacturer to support NS. or wait until the HP port is widely available
and you don't have to mess with the hell-hole that is PC hardware...
It's not a question of wanting to use NEXTSTEP. I own a NeXTstation.
As for the hell-hole that is PeeCee hardware, an old 7up commercial
comes to mind. "Never had it, never will."
From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 03 Jun 1994 03:52:37 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Jun2235237@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
<SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
<MDW.94Jun1084803@laura.jazz.att.com>
<SWIET.94Jun2025133@galileo.cs.jhu.edu>
<MDW.94Jun2084733@laura.jazz.att.com>
In-reply-to: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com's message of Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:47:33 GMT
In article <MDW.94Jun2084733@laura.jazz.att.com> mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest) writes:
FWIW, it *is* important. There *are* differences between Class 2 and
Class 2.0.
Let's hope they're better at creating standards than naming them. :-)
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What're the HSD and Interfax driver on PrintManager?
Date: 3 Jun 1994 07:31:13 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <2smm81$1l7@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <2sltsg$64q@news.iastate.edu>
In article <2sltsg$64q@news.iastate.edu>, Chris Wong <chris@iastate.edu> wrote:
>Ok, a very simple question... Why HSD and Interfax, but not Hayes, Zyxel or
>whatever more common modem in the world (be supported on NS)?
>
>Is there a historical reason?
iIt is my understanding that these are one and the same modem. They are
2400 baud data modem/9600 baud fax modems.
>Why am I asking so many question...? >:)
>
>I'm waiting for the next generation Zyxel which has been claimed that it can
>handle FAX better under NS and other multitasking OS. Any comment on this?
>I'm not in a great hurry to buy a FAXModem... so wait, right? >:)
Gee, that sounds a lot like some thing I wrote in the ZyXEL FAQ. :-)
Currently, ZyXEL modems have implemented Class 2.0 (note the ".0" part.)
in ROM release v6.12. This feature was expected to show up in the next
generation of ZyXELs. They shipped this feature now with the "old"
(aka current modems).
It all works NOW on NeXTstep machines. :-)
RWW.
Disclaimer: I sell NXFax and ZyXEL modems.
--
Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ,
University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and
collector of titles.
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: What're the HSD and Interfax driver on PrintManager?
Date: 3 Jun 1994 07:55:11 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <2smnkv$1mc@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <2sltsg$64q@news.iastate.edu> <2smm81$1l7@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <2smm81$1l7@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>, Robert Wong <wrob@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote:
>It all works NOW on NeXTstep machines. :-)
You Dummy (he says to himeself)!
Correction/clarificaton:
ZyXEL modems can work NOW to fax in and out. What I neglected to mention
was that some other utility software is needed. One nice solution is
via the use of the NXFax software. Other solutions apparently exist
and do work on NeXTstep machines.
Sorry for the confusion.
RWW.
--
Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ,
University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and
collector of titles.
From: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ppd for HP1200C/PS
Date: 3 Jun 1994 08:33:55 GMT
Organization: University of Constance
Message-ID: <2smptj$88c@hermes.uni-konstanz.de>
Hello
I am looking for the ppd File of the HP DeskJet 1200C/PS.
Does this files exist for NeXT. I have seen it for mac/win at
ftp.adobe.com . Where can I find it .
Thanks
Erland
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From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WANTED:NS/FIP v3.2 Drivers For ADAPTEC 1542CF SCSI Card
Date: 3 Jun 1994 00:23:34 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2slt66$4eu@news.worldlink.com>
Greetings,
Would someone please point me to an FTP site which has the latest Adaptec
1542CF SCSI card drivers (software)? Any help is appreciated. Thanks in
advance.
Peace,
James
p00378@psilink.com
From: kiwi@next2032.le.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 3 Jun 1994 09:36:15 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2smtif$d5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
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In article <2slt2c$2nd@umd5.umd.edu> bchin@is-next.umd.edu (Bill Chin)
writes:
[...]
>
> I do wish that NXFax had am's ZyXEL answering abilities.
am works together with NXFax. Let am handle the incoming calls,
use NXFax for the outgoing faxes.
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT MAIL) )o o( nicht weisst
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT Mail) \ | / was Du tust,
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mach's mit Eleganz!"
From: beerbohm@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Dirk Beerbohm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VirtSpace
Date: 3 Jun 1994 11:04:34 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / Germany
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Hello,
In article <2sl8kr$1so9@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
tgall@oliverwjones.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone know if the folks who handle virtspace are still around?
>
> Not to mention if there is an Intel version?
If you can manage to get this software you will receive a fat binary.
(I got my VirtSpace in Nov 1993 for both M68k and i486). They
sent it to me within two weeks with UPS.
Dirk
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From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: which X for NeXT?
Date: 3 Jun 1994 09:58:38 -0400
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Well, I am running MouseX, which is free since I got it off of cs.orst.edu
I think. Wherever, I got it, it was free. It was huge, but free. I like it.
This is a basic rundown on how it works. It has a front end application that
fires the X server and lets you toggle back and forth between NS and X. You can't
have both on the screen at the same time, though. You can "hide" the X desktop
and use NS and then jump back to X and so forth, that's not a problem.
The problems I have encountered (feel free to help me solve them, folks), is
that I can't get MouseX to successfully read any of my custom defaults files. It
always reads the one with the dist or hangs on my own. I also made changes to
theirs which X refuses to read. So I basically have to set up my windows and
apps anew each time, which is a pain. Anyone have an pre-done X stuff they
want to mail me?
------
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Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
http://stravinsky.anderson-lab.american.edu:3001
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_Dune_
In article <1994Jun2.153108.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>, sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
>I'm interested in running X on NS/FIP 3.x and am curious as to the features of
>the various versions of X available for NS. I am new to X (and to NeXt in
>general) but I'd like to be able to swap between X applications and NeXt
>applications without too much difficultly. Running both simultaneously would
>be the ultimate solution. And of course, price is always an issue - I am but
>a student of meager means. I've seen discussion in the newsgroups about mouseX
>and also CubX. I'd appreciate it if anyone would share their experiences with
>either of these products, or another X product I am unaware of.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Scott Davenport
>sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
>
From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Running a 28,800 modem...
Date: 3 Jun 1994 10:06:00 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2sndc8$k18@harmony.cc.gatech.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: daver
What software would you all recommend to best support a Microcom 28.8 modem
on a NeXT? The kermit that I'm currently using only goes to 9600...
Thanks,
DR
From: trestrail@aol.com (Trestrail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WANTED:NS/FIP v3.2 Drivers For ADAPTEC 1542CF SCSI Card
Date: 3 Jun 1994 10:15:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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In article <2slt66$4eu@news.worldlink.com>, "James Gaines"
<p00378@psilink.com> writes:
>Would someone please point me to an FTP site which has the latest
Adaptec
>1542CF SCSI card drivers (software)? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks in
>advance.
They're available from ftp.next.com. You can also retrieve them via
e-mail,
if you can receive NeXTMail, from nextanswers@next.com with a subject
line
of "1520 1521" ( which will return to you the README for the driver,
and the
driver pkg )
Jeff
trestrail@aol.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Date: 3 Jun 1994 11:56:46 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
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Sean O. Luke writes
> Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote:
> : > And $135 for drivers that should be already PART of NEXTSTEP to aid
> : > a piece of hardware costing about the same price is ludicrous.
> : This is rediculous.... why is that such a ludicrous price?
>
> Because it means we're paying a fifth of the cost of the ENTIRE OS for
> a single, simple driver.
>
Sorry, that doesn't hold.....
That means that Word is overpriced because you are paying multiple
times the cost of Windows.
If its so simple, why don't you write one and give it away?
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: michael@wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Michael Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SCREEN like program
Date: 3 Jun 1994 05:14:37 +0200
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands
Message-ID: <2sm76t$189@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl>
References: <2sj1kg$j0d@ionews.io.org>
In article <2sj1kg$j0d@ionews.io.org>, DGRIES <dgries@io.org> wrote:
> Is there a program available for NeXT that is similar to UNIX's
> 'screen' program. I want something that will allow to me, after I
> telnet to my NeXT system, to run some text applications and detach
> the processes, then log back in later and re-attach the process.
Try screen.
> Does anyone know where I can get such a beast?
Yes, try any site carrying GNU software
(f.e. prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/screen-3.5*.tar.gz). It builds right out of the
box on NeXTSTEP. (You do need a Developer version of NeXTSTEP to compile
screen though).
Michael
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scientific Graphing
Date: 3 Jun 1994 17:25:14 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <2snp1r$lis@network.ucsd.edu>
What *scientific* graphing programs exist for NextStep---White or Green?
Free? Commercial?
2-d? 3-d? Command line? GUI?
What are people's experience with them?
On our black machines there is some really neat "instant Tex" or something
mode that seems to do "real-time previewing". Is this avail on NS/I
or NS/HP??
I do not have either NS/I or HP yet, but the answers that come back may
govern whether I would take the plunge or stick with boring regular
Unix, where I know what to expect.
Also, boring unix has MATLAB and NS doesn't. I don't know if I can
go without it. Anybody use "Octave" (free matlab clone?) How much
does it do vs. matlab? E.g. the signal processing toolbox?
cheers
Matt
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CAP compiled for NeXT computers ?
Date: 3 Jun 1994 17:53:08 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2snqm4$b7e@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Hi Fellows !
I'm searching for a CAP compiled for a NeXT computer. Does anybody has that
arround ?
Best regards,
- Eric
--
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From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: which X for NeXT?
Date: 3 Jun 1994 17:36:59 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
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In article <2sncue$40b@shiva.uu.net> mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky) writes:
]
]
] Well, I am running MouseX, which is free since I got it off of cs.orst.edu
]I think. Wherever, I got it, it was free. It was huge, but free. I like it.
]
] The problems I have encountered (feel free to help me solve them, folks), is
]that I can't get MouseX to successfully read any of my custom defaults files. It
]always reads the one with the dist or hangs on my own. I also made changes to
]theirs which X refuses to read. So I basically have to set up my windows and
]apps anew each time, which is a pain. Anyone have an pre-done X stuff they
]want to mail me?
]
You may have a misunderstanding of the way X applications work.
"MouseX" is not a thing -- it is just the name of this particular X
distribution.
It is the individual X programs like xterm, oclock, etc., that use defaults
files, and these programs are identical in the MouseX distribution to the ones
in any other distribution -- the source code was not altered for these in any
way. Perhaps you are misplacing or misnaming your default files -- you might
want to check one of the book which described using resource files. I have
never had any trouble getting X apps to read my own resource (default) files
in addition to the ones found in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults.
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 3 Jun 1994 17:55:29 GMT
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In article <2snp1r$lis@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
writes:
>
> What *scientific* graphing programs exist for NextStep---White or Green?
>
> Free? Commercial?
>
> 2-d? 3-d? Command line? GUI?
>
> What are people's experience with them?
>
> On our black machines there is some really neat "instant Tex" or
something
> mode that seems to do "real-time previewing". Is this avail on NS/I
> or NS/HP??
>
> I do not have either NS/I or HP yet, but the answers that come back may
> govern whether I would take the plunge or stick with boring regular
> Unix, where I know what to expect.
>
> Also, boring unix has MATLAB and NS doesn't. I don't know if I can
> go without it. Anybody use "Octave" (free matlab clone?) How much
> does it do vs. matlab? E.g. the signal processing toolbox?
>
> cheers
> Matt
>
>
> --
> -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
> -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
> -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
> -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
Here are the ones I've used for scientific papers:
Mathematica 2.2
nxyplot
CurveFit
HippoDraw
There's also SciPlot, which looks nice, but I have
to admit I haven't published anything with it.
I've also used Mathematica remotely to do graphics
through my own interface code. To see how to do this,
ftp to uhoop.egr.uh.edu (the same folks who bring you
GatorFTP+) and then
cd pub/objects/UHMath
and grab the compressed file you find there.
Matt, have you thought of wrapping a NeXT GUI
around any of your nonlinear dynamics code?
Have you tried using Mathematica for anything
that you normally do in Matlab?
--Bob--
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From: night@b65121.STUDENT.CWRU.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: screen lock
Date: 3 Jun 1994 18:13:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve School of Pyromaniacs
Message-ID: <2snrrc$p4p@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
References: <2ritrf$qt0@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov> <1994May20.222115.11972@seer.demon.co.uk> <ROBERT.94May21091024@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Hey everyone --
Sorry if this is a little bit after the original posting, but I just now
caught this thread -- I would recommend Sentinel -- an app which can be
obtained from cs.orst.edu I believe, or sonata... it's been a while since
I grabbed my copy...
This nice thing about this app is that it will NOT allow the power to be
turned off while it is active, in addition to requiring standard password
verification -- a nice touch if you don't want your machine going down
unecessarily...
Have fun --
John
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 3 Jun 1994 19:30:01 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2so0bp$g2k@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
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In article <2snp1r$lis@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
writes:
>
> What *scientific* graphing programs exist for NextStep---White or Green?
>
> Free? Commercial?
>
> 2-d? 3-d? Command line? GUI?
>
> What are people's experience with them?
>
> On our black machines there is some really neat "instant Tex" or
something
> mode that seems to do "real-time previewing". Is this avail on NS/I
> or NS/HP??
>
> I do not have either NS/I or HP yet, but the answers that come back may
> govern whether I would take the plunge or stick with boring regular
> Unix, where I know what to expect.
>
> Also, boring unix has MATLAB and NS doesn't. I don't know if I can
> go without it. Anybody use "Octave" (free matlab clone?) How much
> does it do vs. matlab? E.g. the signal processing toolbox?
>
> cheers
> Matt
>
>
> --
> -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
> -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
> -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
> -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
Don't forget GnuPlot, which is a nice front end to a unix-standard
graphing program. Can be found at cs.orst.edu, in
/pub/next/binaries/plotting.
As for matlab, there is a port of the ancient public domain version. I
suspect this wouldn't be sufficient for your needs. Anyway, it can be
found at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, in
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Science/mathematics.
good luck,
-jamey.
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: which X for NeXT?
Date: 3 Jun 1994 15:56:43 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices)
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By X defaults, I am referring to .xsessions, .tmwrc and so on. The files that
define where my windows are placed at startup, what logs in where, where the
little ditties like my clock and icon manager and panner go and so on. It should
read them directly out of my home directory, as the documentation for X says it
should and as it does in my other X environments.
------
Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net
Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
http://stravinsky.anderson-lab.american.edu:3001
"I did not say this. I am not here..."
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_Dune_
>
>You may have a misunderstanding of the way X applications work.
>"MouseX" is not a thing -- it is just the name of this particular X
>distribution.
>
>It is the individual X programs like xterm, oclock, etc., that use defaults
>files, and these programs are identical in the MouseX distribution to the ones
>in any other distribution -- the source code was not altered for these in any
>way. Perhaps you are misplacing or misnaming your default files -- you might
>want to check one of the book which described using resource files. I have
>never had any trouble getting X apps to read my own resource (default) files
>in addition to the ones found in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults.
>
>
>--
>Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
>Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
>Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department
><doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
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From: tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Tami Bland)
Subject: Re: Creating HTML documents in emacs?
Message-ID: <1994Jun3.194108.9725@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Sender: usenet@martha.utcc.utk.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
References: <2sb2kn$eob@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 19:41:08 GMT
In article <2sb2kn$eob@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian) writes:
>
> In article <1994May18.190135.1081@prim.demon.co.uk>,
> Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>Hi, what is everyone using to create HTML documents under NeXTStep? Is
there
> >>anything which allows you to drag'n'drop file icons to create links?
> >[...]
>
> There is an HTMLEdit.app but I tend to use html-mode.el in emacs.
> Another sensible thing to do is to write your document in LaTeX
> and use latex2html.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
> voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
> fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
I have downloaded emacs in the hopes of using it as an html editor. I
don't seem to have the html mode mentioned above. Do I download that
from somewhere else?
Tami Bland
tbland@nightingale.con.utk.edu
The Univ. of Tenn., Knoxville
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: screen lock
Date: 3 Jun 1994 20:47:18 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2so4sm$1fi@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2ritrf$qt0@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov> <1994May20.222115.11972@seer.demon.co.uk> <ROBERT.94May21091024@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2snrrc$p4p@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
night@b65121.STUDENT.CWRU.edu (John L. Millard) writes:
>This nice thing about this app is that it will NOT allow the power to be
>turned off while it is active, in addition to requiring standard password
>verification -- a nice touch if you don't want your machine going down
>unecessarily...
Does Sentinel also somehow trap cmd-~ or cmd-cmd-~???
--
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From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung)
Subject: DOS Partitions on NSI
Message-ID: <vfr750CquBGp.3F7@netcom.com>
Summary: Can you access DOS partitions from NS?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 21:24:24 GMT
Assuming that you've got PC with a hard drive that has both a NEXTSTEP
partition and a DOS partition.
Can NEXTSTEP see the DOS partition as a different drive?
I'm just looking for an easy way to move data between the two systems.
Don't particularly look forward to unloading data from the computer,
rebooting and loading it back in.
--
Will Hartung - Hermosa Beach, Lower Left Coast. vfr750@netcom.com
1990 VFR750 - VFR=Very Red "Ho, HaHa, Dodge, Parry, Spin, HA! THRUST!"
1993 Explorer - Cage? Hell, it's a prison. -D. Duck
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: screen lock
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 18:11:41 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Subject: WWW access?
Message-ID: <1994Jun3.184443.21008@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@zia.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 3 Jun 94 18:44:43 MDT
Distribution: world
When I see a posting that describes of information available
like this:
> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
> Look under "News Flashes"
Can I access this using OmniWeb.app? If so, how?
Thanks guys!
HRC
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From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: What're the HSD and Interfax driver on PrintManager?
Message-ID: <Cqv0yq.Kqx@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <2sltsg$64q@news.iastate.edu> <2smm81$1l7@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 06:35:14 GMT
In article <2smm81$1l7@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) writes:
[ ]
>Currently, ZyXEL modems have implemented Class 2.0 (note the ".0" part.)
>in ROM release v6.12. This feature was expected to show up in the next
>generation of ZyXELs. They shipped this feature now with the "old"
>(aka current modems).
There must be something wrong with 6.12. What used to be a reliable faxmodem
has become unreliable.
>It all works NOW on NeXTstep machines. :-)
Works? Hmm...
>Disclaimer: I sell NXFax and ZyXEL modems.
>Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
>Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ,
>University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and
>collector of titles.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
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From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Message-ID: <Cqv11z.KuI@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <2slt2c$2nd@umd5.umd.edu> <2smtif$d5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 06:37:11 GMT
In article <2smtif$d5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@next2032.le.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes:
[ ]
>> I do wish that NXFax had am's ZyXEL answering abilities.
>
>am works together with NXFax. Let am handle the incoming calls,
>use NXFax for the outgoing faxes.
Does am work with NS/Intel? Is is a painless install? The last time I tried
it, it simply wouldn't work.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: ccwf@plato.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Soft PC data ---- performance and compatibility ???????
Date: 4 Jun 1994 06:47:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2sp814$na4@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <2si4dr$mul@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no> <2sotpg$3r2@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In article <2sotpg$3r2@news.mic.ucla.edu>,
Ivo Welch <ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu> wrote:
>I am running SoftPC/Intel on a Pentium with 64MB. It gives acceptable
>performance, but it is not "seamless." That is, I cannot click on a
>windows program and have it come up in a window. Also, switching from some
>other work to a background SoftPC program is so notoriously slow that I
>try to avoid it (starting SoftPC is slow, too).
>
>I wonder if the Sun Windows code is seamless...
Overall, I'm not happy enough with SoftPC that I would shell out the
bucks for a license. It is occasionally useful. I find the lack of
enhanced mode support very restrictive, however. In particular, it
prevents some of my compilers and most of the programs I write from
working.
Sound is terrible in quality and generally causes a tremendous
performance hit.
However, it is useful for occasional work, and the Intel
implementation seems much, much less buggy than the version for black
hardware (not too surprising). And, from the reviews I've read, Sun's
product is worse.
-ccwf
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I want Oracle or SyBase..please
Date: 4 Jun 1994 06:50:45 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2sp885$k1b@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I'd like to buy new (academic price, I'm a student) or used
packages of either Oracle or SyBase server software so I can use DBkit,
or another 3rd party server and server adapter software.
I need it ASAP, please solicit me your price...
Thank you.
Gary
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From: ccwf@plato.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I want perl to be insecure
Date: 4 Jun 1994 07:11:17 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2sp9el$nqs@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <1994Jun1.223447.4115@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> <1994Jun4.004340.3722@netlabs.com>
In article <1994Jun4.004340.3722@netlabs.com>,
Larry Wall <lwall@netlabs.com> wrote:
>In article <1994Jun1.223447.4115@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) writes:
>: I would like to run suid scripts under perl. And I don't have a compiler on
>: that machine, so the whole wrapsuid script doesn't do me much good... My
>: system is VERY secure; it's not on the net. Since the only real access to
>: the machine is is physical I'm not worried about a couple of suid scripts.
>:
>: Is it possible for me to get a copy of perl that####################################################################
From: claussen@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Sven Claussen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW access?
Date: 4 Jun 1994 10:04:14 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2spjiu$gvq@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: <1994Jun3.184443.21008@cc.usu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <1994Jun3.184443.21008@cc.usu.edu> writes:
> When I see a posting that describes of information available
> like this:
>
> > http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
> > Look under "News Flashes"
>
> Can I access this using OmniWeb.app? If so, how?
>
> Thanks guys!
>
> HRC
>
> --
>
Generally speaking, in OmniWeb.app (0.6.2) you just type "http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/" in
the main menu "document" --> "Open URL..." to make a connection to a www-server.
I can neither get an access to this particular server, though.
Sven
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 01:05:51 -0500
From: crawford@nesteggs.com (Michael E. Crawford)
Message-ID: <9406020605.AA01050@nesteggs.com>
Subject: NeXTstep & My (Your) Newton
Cc: blawton@NeXT.com, andy@sarrus.com, glocker@sirius.com,
moderator@panther.weeg.uiowa.edu
OK
remember: respond to me -> crawford@nesteggs.com
I am not the only one who sees a natural connection betwixt NeXTs &
Newtons.
And to begin with, Sarrus Software's PencilMeIn & SBook are
complementary technology. (For that matter, so is SmartSoft's InTouch
& DIT's OnDuty)
Andy Turk (andy@sarrus.com) would love to help someone else do it.
Andreas Glocker (glocker@SIRIUS.COM, NeXTstep & Newton consultant)
has offered to do work on the project.
Unnamed grad students at MIT are working on the project even as we
sleep, uh, speak.
So, now we have to show market force.
My question to you is:
Do you have a Newton?
or
Would you get a Newton if you could connect it to your NeXTstep
machine ( all flavors)?
or
Are you even vaguely piqued by this notion?
Send the answers to me, only to me, don't just hit the reply button
or command, please don't burden the list with thousands of copies of
your answers; just send a new message to me -> crawford@nesteggs.com
I will summarize the results and pass them on to the developers
interested, and one summary back to this list.
For those interested, here's a history ( or is it an history?)
Begin forwarded message:
From: crawford@nesteggs.com (Michael E. Crawford)
Subject: Re: Newton & y'all
Months have zipped by.
How are you?
Excited about NeXTstep expo?
Bringing your Newton?
Know of any nifty ways to transfer data back & forth betwixt our
Newtons & NeXTs?
Ever curious,
Michael Crawford
nesteggs
Houston
From: Andrew K. Turk <andy@sarrus.com>
Subject: Newton & y'all
We're doing very well, thanks. Yup, my Newton will be at the Expo - I
use it constantly. However, there aren't enough NEXTSTEP customers
with Newtons to provide a business case for us building a connection
(even though I'd love to use it myself).
That may change in the future, when more people adopt NEXTSTEP and
more people adopt the Newton (although, I'd rather see the NS numbers
climb first). %%%amen%%%
We'd love to help someone else do it, but we're not in a position to
do any Newton related development ourselves at the moment.
Andy
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Andreas R. Glocker" <glocker@SIRIUS.COM>
Subject: Re: NeXTstep & My Newton
Reply-To: glocker@SIRIUS.COM
Michael:
Well, currently I am only interested in doing consulting work for
Newton <> NS file transfer at $ x per hour. %%%I supplanted his rate
quote - mec%%%
However if there is enough interest, say a petition of 100 + users
who would be interested in such an app I might just change my mind.
Andreas
415 957-9044
............and the wild card entry............
Begin forwarded message:
From: "David A. Rarick" <drarick@panther.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Re: mouse & Newton
Begin forwarded message:
> Also, what do you have to do with the Newton?
> I'm dying to transfer information between my Newton & my NeXT
Michael -
I have been in contact with some Grad. students at MIT who
are working on a Connection Kit for the NeXT. They are having a lot
of trouble getting protocol information from Apple, so I am having
one of our local programmers ask around at the upcoming Developer's
Conference about it. I will keep your name on file, and if I hear
anything, I'll let you know.
It's kinda funny, because the Newton Archive is running on my
colorStation. If there was a Connection Kit for the NeXT, I could use
Opener to de-BinHex and UnStuff everything, and do it all from here.
You could probably buy a daydream board from Dancing Bear
Enterprises...
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From: michael@mvhome.hesta.com (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.guitar.tab,alt.guitar,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Guitar programs
Date: 4 Jun 1994 13:42:28 GMT
Organization: FXnet
Message-ID: <2sq0c4$8jg@clt.fx.net>
Are any of the programs refferred to in alt.guitar.tab (ie. CHORD)
available for NeXTSTEP? How hard would they be to port?
Unfortunately I am programming illiterate, so I apologize if this is a
dumb question....
michael@mvhome.hesta.com
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Networking Woes on Intel
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 22:26:38
Organization: Clubside
Message-ID: <chris.8.00167247@clubside.digex.net>
Hello again, no I won't go away, because this is very frustrating. The sole
reason I bought NeXTStep for Intel was so I could do UNIX school work
connected via SLIP to the university. No such luck so-far.
I have a 486/66 with an Ethernet card, sound board, Diamond Viper, Adaptec
card, CD-ROM, 16MB of memory, and everything works great. Installed easily. I
ran into some trouble around networking, but at least figured out how to get
around it.
When I boot, the system appears to hang after clearing the screen. When the
Wietek P9000 driver kicks in, it clears the screen, and I don't get to see the
rest of the diagnostic startup messages. The hard drive stops. Forever. Unless
I hit Ctrl-C. The hard drive resumes, and up comes the system, I log in as
root, check the /usr/adm/messages file, and it won't tell me what I hit Ctrl-C
to interrupt.
One of the problems is the TranSys PNI docs are totally devoid of information
in maintaining the network outside of installation. They don't even mention
the resolv.conf file. So here's my plea:
I can get PNI to run ("/etc/pni/pnirun -core /etc/pni/config/pni0.config")
from a terminal shell. It does not run from rc.local (even though its
installation routine installed a few lines). If I run PNI manually, I cannot
get it to resolve ANY names. I can ping and telnet and ftp AS LONG AS I know
the actual address, but I can't 'ping arizona.edu' without an error.
Personally I could care less if the thing started up at boot time. My Windows
sockets program doesn't do that (although if I dragged it into the startup
group it would). But I do need to resolve addresses. I do want to send and
receive mail and news. I do want peope to be able to ftp to my address.
I am desperate. I'd pay for a good SLIP package if I could be guaranteed
there'd be voices to solve my installation woes. It is hard to believe,
however, that Linux has easy-to-install SLIP, and Windows unbelievably
easy-to-use SLIP (and loads of sockets utilities), but that that NeXTSTEP
can't and won't get SLIP up easily. It is honesty unreasonable the amount of
work involved to get SLIP going. You shouldn't have to edit files, you should
get a sialog and the system does the rest. And what about my host? How does
hostconfig play in this equation? And mail? And what about the dan name
resolution?
I'm sorry, I've had NeXTSTEP up for a week now, and still cannot get SLIP
working flawlessly. Trumpet Winsock I had going in FIVE MINUTES. I had leeched
files and send mail and set up an ftp site in less than a halh and hour with
minimal documentation. I've had to go on campus to do UNIX work for school
this past week.
Please, please, please don't tell me that Linux has better support and is
easier to use for UNIX. I could have gotten it free frm my roommate who
already runs SLIP fine.
Any help from anyone would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to learn UNIX, but
I need SLIP.
Chris
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From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: [NS for Intel 3.1] AppleTalk drivers?
Message-ID: <Cqw6Mx.FqG@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <2sotm6$l80@larry.rice.edu>
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 21:35:20 GMT
In article <2sotm6$l80@larry.rice.edu> scots@owlnet.rice.edu (Herbert King Salmon) writes:
>I had thought that NeXTSTEP shipped with AppleTalk drivers, but apparently
>not...does anyone know if an AppleTalk driver for Intel exists, and if so
>how and where do I get it?
From IPT. info@ipt.com . They have a product called Partner which will allow
you to print over an Ethertalk network ( or Ethernet->Mac-sw router> printer),
mount a Mac AFS volume (although I had trouble with that) and publish a
NeXT volume as an AFS one ( that one always worked fine for me). The products
used to be called uPrint, uShare and Partner+ respectively.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
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From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: SUBMISSION: BeakerBoy v0.3. Chemistry visualization
Message-ID: <Cquoty.6Iw@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Keywords: 3dkit, chemistry, sci-tools, RenderMan
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab.
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 02:13:09 GMT
BeakerBoy v0.3 uploaded to:
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (/next/Science/chemistry/)
ftp.embl-heidelberg.de (/pub/sci-tools/submissions/programs/)
cs.orst.edu (/pub/next/binaries/science/)
(if you don't find the packages there, they might still be in the
submisson directories)
Release 0.3, 31.05.1994 by Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org)
The BeakerBoy Application
This nice guy is trying to provide a basic framework for chemical
vizualization. It serves as the center of a possible collection of many
different chemical tools that should be able to cooperate accross a
network and different hardware platforms.
As a main goal I want to create a flexible app design that is very simple
to extend via additional bundles.
The current Release
Version 0.3 still has to be considered as an alpha version that is under
development and might change a lot. To get a little impression of the
things I have in mind for the releases yet to come read the second chapter
of this documentation.
I would like to get any kind of feedback from other programmers or chemist
to make this app more intuitive, flexible and maybe find some better
solutions.
All you can do with the current version is:
1. Load some sample molecules.
2. Create new regions by grouping either atoms or bonds.
3. Use the Inspector to adjust the graphical parameters (color,
styles, etc.).
4. Doubleclick any collection of selected regions to show them.
5. Rotate the molecules using the RotatorPanel or the
3DDeviceServer.
6. Print the views.
Every view you see will be drawn using the settings valid at the moment of
creation! Later changes won't affect any already visible view. Right now
you might consider this as a feature because you might open the same
region with as many different settings as you like. But this definitly
will change in the future.
The Package
This release comes with the following resources. They are split in
seperate packages to give you the freedom of only downloading the parts
you are interested in.
BeakerBoy.app & Documentation.
The BeakerBoy.0.3.NI.b.tar.gz archive contains a plug'n'play
binary for NeXT and Intel hardware that was compiled under
NeXTSTEP v3.2. The program has been only tested on original black
hardware.
Source.
In BeakerBoy.0.3.s.tar.gz you can find the complete sourcecode
for this project. More details on compiling are included below.
LookMolecules.
If you want an example molecule collection get the since
BeakerBoy v0.2 unchanged BeakerBoy-LookMolecules.0.1.d.tar.gz
archive. This package has its seperate version number.
All it does
This is a quick summary of the features this version offers. A complete
history of all the versions, their features and the currently known bugs
can be found inside the Release Notes.
v0.3 3DDeviceServer support for using 3D mouse devices.
More filefilters (Look3D,Alchemy, MacMolecule, MVT)
Uses the IconKit for drag&drop.
Allows simple grouping which will creat regions.
Few preferences (background color, and 3DMouse on/off).
Uses different render settings for rotation and displaying.
Printing the views.
v0.2 Load multiple molecules (Look3D format) and show them with
multiple camera views using different styles. The
coordinate system is left-handed (x to the right, y upwards
and z into the screen. The camera is positioned on the
negative z axis). I'm not sure if this is the common
orientation ? If not, please give me a hint.
Rotate molecules.
Set different molecule styles and rendering qualities.
(Hollow Sticks, Round Sticks, Balls & Sticks, Spacefilling
CPK)
Show a nice interface with no function at all...hold on for
a while to see a lot of thing get implemented and improved.
Bright Future
Here is a rough overview of my privat timetable for this project. Given
the fact that I'm a student it might be possible to make it a non-vapour
project :-)
More details can be found in the next chapter:
('94) Load, save, new, ... basic stuff.
More fileFilters. (PDB high on the list)
Helppages.
Using Bundles.
Simple stereo-camera.
Molecule construction from basic fragments. (atoms, bonds,
molecules)
A simple German localization.
('95) Tools executable on remote machines via PDO: HP, Sun, SGI,
DEC servers?
StructureBoy...a 2D chemistry drawing tool.
Nice clipping planes. Other drawing styles.
Protein building tool.
Energy optimization.
('99) Direkt brain-slot adaptor and other simple extentions.
...include here what you like. It might get real.
More Details
I am trying to make it as NeXTSTEP' ish as possible. Full Drag&Drop,
Object Links etc. will definitly be added someday. There will be APIs for
any kind of loadable bundle or service link.
PDO will find its way into this project too. It is almost ideal for
creating server based number crunching analysis tools.
And once the SCI-Tools project gets on the road I will try to make
BeakerBoy compatible or what ever might be necessary to allow easy
coexistance.
As said before. This app wants to provide a well defined API, reusable
objects and a flexible concept. It is not designed to squeeze the last bit
out of memory or CPU performance. The basic idea is to provide useful
working speed with almost any molecule size on any hardware. This will
need a wide variety of QRenderMan settings. For really impressive pictures
I might add some kind of link to solidModeller, intuitiv3D, etc. (some
basic shading stuff will be included in BeakerBoy too).
Feel free to send comments on the app, interface, molecule files or what
ever. But please just send messages with useable information...not
something like: "I hate it"...please say why you hate it ;o)
If you are interested in chemistry on NeXTSTEP checkout MolViewer from
Steve Ludtke. Not as pretty as my app :-) but a lot more useful (at the
moment). Georg Tuparev from EMBL/SCITools is writing a frontend to
MolScript and porting WHATIF. Maybe those projects are interesting for you
too.
Compiling
Sorry, you will need the MOKit, IconKit and MiscKit to compile the app.
Some objects which have been included in v0.2 moved to the MiscKit and are
no longer present in this project.
If you are interested in programming you should get those libraries
anyway. There are many good, reusable objects in there.
I will drop the MOKit in the future once I have decided which string class
to use. With NeXT having announced their own class I will wait until I
have seen their objects.
What is the 3DDeviceServer
The allow the user to rotate and move a molecule BeakerBoy uses the
3DDeviceServer.app. It is a PDO based server app that does control the
access to any kind of 3D hardware. It is available at all the major
NeXTSTEP ftp-sites (cs.orst.edu and ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de)
Distribution
Like with every programm you may find on this planet: NO WARRANTY for what
every may happen to your data, computer, familie life, home or monthly
paycheck etc. pp.
Right now the whole project is under Copyleft (GNUpublic license). If you
do some additions or bug-fixes please let me know.
Otherwise this is travel-ware. If you like it. Send me a postcard, e-mail
or whatever. Include your address and maybe I'll come to visit you for a
day when I'll do my US-surf/snowboa####################################################################
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From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: am.1.16, answering machine/fax/datacall handler for ZyXEL U-modems
Message-ID: <CqvLxG.4z1@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 14:08:03 GMT
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In article <Cqv11z.KuI@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
(Philip McDunnough) writes:
> In article <2smtif$d5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
kiwi@next2032.le.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes:
> [ ]
>
> >> I do wish that NXFax had am's ZyXEL answering abilities.
> >
> >am works together with NXFax. Let am handle the incoming calls,
> >use NXFax for the outgoing faxes.
>
> Does am work with NS/Intel? Is is a painless install? The last time I
tried
> it, it simply wouldn't work.
I haven't got any feedback from Intel users, so I just don't know
if it works on Intel :-(, sorry. I hope I will know soon. Can any
NS/FIP + am user comment??? What you need at least are serial
ports working reliably at 38400 bps.
The installation procedure still requires editing of some files - this
may change in the future when am gets a NeXTSTEP GUI.
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
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From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: Re: SCREEN like program
Message-ID: <Cqw9MA.1x8@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <2sj1kg$j0d@ionews.io.org>
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 22:39:46 GMT
In article <2sj1kg$j0d@ionews.io.org>, DGRIES <dgries@io.org> wrote:
> Is there a program available for NeXT that is similar to UNIX's
> 'screen' program. I want something that will allow to me, after I
> telnet to my NeXT system, to run some text applications and detach
> the processes, then log back in later and re-attach the process.
> Does anyone know where I can get such a beast?
Umm. Why not use screen? Version 3.2 compiles and works
perfectly on NeXT machines; however, v3.5.2 (which is the latest
non-beta) does not.
For the more adventurous sort, the latest beta (from
ftp.uni-erlangen.de) also compiles and works right out of the box.
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
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From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: SCREEN like program
Message-ID: <CqwLov.1Aw@fragile.termfrost.org>
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
References: <2sj1kg$j0d@ionews.io.org> <Cqw9MA.1x8@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 03:00:31 GMT
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer) writes:
>In article <2sj1kg$j0d@ionews.io.org>, DGRIES <dgries@io.org> wrote:
>> Is there a program available for NeXT that is similar to UNIX's
>> 'screen' program. I want something that will allow to me, after I
>> telnet to my NeXT system, to run some text applications and detach
>> the processes, then log back in later and re-attach the process.
>> Does anyone know where I can get such a beast?
>Umm. Why not use screen? Version 3.2 compiles and works
>perfectly on NeXT machines; however, v3.5.2 (which is the latest
>non-beta) does not.
...and there is a patch to make 3.5.2 compile. (Mail me if you want it.)
--
Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@vax.wittenberg.edu
"To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
From: chi@kaiwan.com (LCC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mux with Mouse?
Date: 4 Jun 1994 11:44:26 -0700
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920)
Message-ID: <2sqi2a$72u@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
References: <2san3h$c78@beyond.escape.com>
Christopher Geyer (cmg@escape.com) wrote:
: Is anoyne out there using Mux? Is is it really as good as it claims?
: I just need to figure out how to setup SerialDriver and Mux at the same
: time so that I can use the mouse with SerialDriver on com1. Any ideas?
Note: The instruction below will only work for the Mux serial
driver 1.4, pre-compiled version of mux can be obtained
from ftp.morningstar.com
(/pub/tools/NeXT-Intel-Mux-1.4.tar.Z)
Serial Mouse setting is on com 1, IRQ 4
Hi-spd Modem setting is on com 2, IRQ 3
Step I. Installation of Pre-Compiled Mux Driver
After you have downloaded the Mux driver from the FTP
site assuming that the file is located in the /tmp
directory. Now,
simply double click on the .Z file to uncompress it.
Once the process is done you will have a Mux directory
( /tmp/Mux )in the /tmp directory. Double click on
the /tmp/Mux/Mux.config to install the driver on to
the /NextLibrary/Devices directory.
Step II. Change the Default.table for both
SerialPorts.config and Mux.Config
Before we change any file in the
Devices/SerialPorts.config directory please make
a backup of each files.
First open a terminal window and replace the file
Default.table in the
/NextLibrary/Devices/SerialPorts.config directory
with the Default.table in the
/tmp/Mux/configuration/SerialPort,COM2/SerialPorts.config
directory. This Default.table file contains the informati
on for your mouse to work properly on com1.
Then replace the Default.table in the
/NextLibrary/Devices/Mux.config directory with
the Default.table in the
/tmp/Mux/configuration/SerialPorts,COM2/Mux.config
directory. This Default.table file contains the
information for your modem to work properly on
com2.
Step III. Delete the file Instance0.table
Delete the file Instance0.table from
/NextLibrary/Devices/SerialPorts.config
and Delete the file Instance0.table from
/NextLibrary/Devices/Mux.config
Step IV. Adding new devices 8 Channel
Multiplexed Serial Driver
Run /NextAdmin/Configure and click on the Other
icon to add
8 Channel Multiplexed Serial Driver.
* important *
If your On-Board Serial Ports still have IRQ 3
and 4 occupied,
you can remove it and add the device again. By
now, you should have no conflicts on any devices.
Step V. Save setting and Reboot.
Save the new device setting, logout and reboot.
* Don't save the setting if there is a conflict
on any devices
Installation Finished.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Looking for a software keyboard
Message-ID: <westesCqww1I.6u7@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 06:44:06 GMT
Does anyone know of an application for NS FIP that displays a
software keyboard that can be used via the mouse?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Networking Woes on Intel
Message-ID: <1994Jun5.073730.3970@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <chris.8.00167247@clubside.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 07:37:30 GMT
In article <chris.8.00167247@clubside.digex.net> chris@clubside.digex.net
(Chris Rowley) writes:
> When I boot, the system appears to hang after clearing the screen. When
the
> Wietek P9000 driver kicks in, it clears the screen, and I don't get to
see the
> rest of the diagnostic startup messages. The hard drive stops. Forever.
Unless
> I hit Ctrl-C. The hard drive resumes, and up comes the system, I log in
as
> root, check the /usr/adm/messages file, and it won't tell me what I hit
Ctrl-C
> to interrupt.
Not much information. It sounds like your machine is hanging during boot,
but you don't give enough information to guess where. Pressing return at
the boot: prompt *should* let you see the startup messages. My guess is
that you have a standalone machine, but have given it an IP address (via
the Local panel of HostManager, or by editting /etc/hostconfig). If so,
that is your problem; take it back out.
> One of the problems is the TranSys PNI docs are totally devoid of
information
> in maintaining the network outside of installation.
The docs describe how to use PNI. Louis assumes that you know networking,
which I think is reasonable. Anything else would quickly become a massive
treatise on TCP/IP, DNS, NFS and sendmail. Sometime ago I wrote a
cook-book guide to getting a NeXT SLIP set up running. You can find it as
ftp.demon.co.uk:/pub/NeXT/NeXT.Internet.rtfd.compressed. It describes
using TransSys SLIP and a particular Internet provider, Demon Systems, but
may give you some clues.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: (Horace Lim) hal@xedoc.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Solution Wanted: Imaging & document management solution for legal case management
Date: 5 Jun 1994 10:08:29 GMT
Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ss86t$lft@yarrina.connect.com.au>
Keywords: Imaging, document management, legal, Case management
We are looking for innovative NEXTSTEP-based imaging and document
solutions for an existing legal customer in Australia. A "ready to
run" system would be ideal but needs to highly scalable to several
million documents. Preference will be given to solutions which Xedoc
can customise for the client.
For further information about the customer requirements, please mail
me directly.
Horace Lim, Channels Manager (hal@xedoc.com.au)
Xedoc Software Development
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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M9VPQ,C`*7&UA<F=R,3(P"EQP87)D7'1X-34Q7'1####################################################################
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From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Re: PhotoCD.app?? (unsolved)
Message-ID: <CqyC17.48E@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <1994May31.075058.1512@ares.fdn.org>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:25:51 GMT
> :
> :I can read NeXT, DOS, Mac, AudioCD, but I cannot read Kodak Photo CD
> :on my NeXT Turbo 3.2 station. Is there a driver out there??
> :
> :replies -> comp.sys.next.sysadmin
> :
> :Thanks, JIM
>
>
> I currently use PhotoCD on My TurboColor NeXT Station with a Sony CD ROM
> Drive. You should use
> /NextDeveloper/Demos/PhotoAlbum.app
> To do that.
> I was unable to load 64Base Images
> and a multisession disk.
>
My NeXTStation ejects the CD after scanning for DOS/MAC/audiocd because
it doesn't recognize it. So, I cant use PhotoAlbum because the disk is
ejected.
replies -> comp.sys.next.sysadmin
JIM
From: damonc@hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TransSys SLIP Connect Problem
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:44:48 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <damonc.3.2DF27F90@hookup.net>
I have been able to install TransSys PNI SLIP/CSLIP, but once connected, not
much happens (transcript of session below). Bascially, when I try
ftp/telnet/ping/etc, the modem lights flash a little (VERY little), and after
about 3 minutes, I get "host not found" in the terminal window.
Using Intel box with ZyXEL U-1496E (external) modem.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated (been at this for almost a week)...
.
.
.
June 5 20:24:56 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: TTY tty: Trying to call 619-6609 (unix)
June 5 20:24:56 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: dialer: Start of ZyXEL dialing script, dialing 619-6609
June 5 20:24:58 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Modem firmware version is '25355 U1496E V 6.01 M'
June 5 20:25:00 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Dialing (DTMF) 619-6609....
June 5 20:25:45 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Connected: CONNECT 38400/V32b 14400/V42b
June 5 20:25:45 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: TTY tty: Dialer succeded to 619-6609
June 5 20:25:45 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: source /etc/pni/config/login-unix.tcl
June 5 20:25:45 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Start generic UNIX login script
June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Entering SLIP mode
June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: TTY tty: link connected
June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: TTY tty: started
June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: LINK tty connected
June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: PNI pni: runt packet 297276 bytes dropped
June 5 20:27:10 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: PNI pni: runt packet 297276 bytes dropped
June 5 20:27:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: -slip stats: 0 packets, 0 compressed, 0 searches, 0 misses
June 5 20:27:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: - 0 uncompressed in, 0 compressed in, 0 error in, 0 tossed
June 5 20:27:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Uptime is 2 minutes, 59 seconds (since Sun June 5 00:24:53 1994 UTC)
June 5 20:27:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: 697 TCL commands executed, 0.350 user, 0.210 system
June 5 20:28:02 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: PNI pni: runt packet 297276 bytes dropped
June 5 20:28:26 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: PNI pni: runt packet 297276 bytes
dropped
.
.
.
Thanks!
Damon Cooper
damonc@hookup.net
From: damonc@hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TransSys PNI Key
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:51:36 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <damonc.9.2DF28128@hookup.net>
Anybody have that TransSys PNI SLIP authorization key extention that was
posted by TransSys a couple weeks ago? (and instructions on how to install it?)
Thanks!
Damon Cooper
damonc@hookup.net
From: t-shawki@uiuc.edu (Tarek G. Shawki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A problem with Opener 3.1x (x>1)
Date: 6 Jun 1994 08:32:47 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2sumvf$r81@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Jun3.181810.786@ideal.muc.de>
Keywords: software, bugs
In article <1994Jun3.181810.786@ideal.muc.de> me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus
Bscheid) writes:
> Every time I tried to Command-Drop a directory on the Opener Icon, a
alert-panel comes up
> and tells me that Opener couldn't open the directory. Same situation
with .ps files.
>
> Does anybody have seen the problem?
>
> I use NS3.2/Black
>
> Thanks anyway
> --
> ____________________________________________________________
> Klaus Bscheid, klaus@ideal.muc.de, voice/fax: +49 89 3103829
> Germany, 85716 Unterschleissheim, Sportplatzstrasse 7
Yes, I did observe the same problem on my Intel version of Opener 3.1a.
This is unfortunate but true. Has anyone been able to fix this problem?
_______________________________________________________________
Tarek G. Shawki Associate Professor
134 Talbot Laboratory Theoretical & Applied Mechanics
Tel: 217 333 7131 University of Illinois
Fax: 217 333 3625 104 South Wright Street
E-mail: t-shawki@uiuc.edu Urbana, Illinois 61801
_______________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk (Paul Meier)
Subject: Oracle Financials?
Message-ID: <Cqyxo9.DK7@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:14:32 GMT
Does anyone have Oracle Financials working with a Next client?
Paul Meier
paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk
From: t-shawki@uiuc.edu (Tarek G. Shawki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Font Problems with DVIPS & TeXview
Date: 6 Jun 1994 09:22:32 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2supso$hr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: fonts, dvips, texview, postscript, tex
I do have a strange problem related to the printing of postscript CM fonts
from within TeXview. More specifically, I have installed postscript
versions of the computer modern fonts. I have also edited the
/usr/lib/tex/ps/psfonts.map and built the fonts. In fact, the fonts are
all available from the font panel to all applications. Furthermore, the
fonts work correctly with TeXview as far as screen display is concerned.
Now, here is the problematic scenario:
(1) I draw a sketch using Diagram 2.0. I then annotate the sketch with
equations produced by writing the TeX code in an Edit window and then
invoking the service "TeXview -> TeX EQ->.EPS". I copy the resulting
equation and paste it in Diagram. The equation looks great in Diagram and
it can be sized without loss of resolution (since it is now in
postscript).
(2) I save the annotated sketch from Diagram in an "eps" format.
(3) I now use the "epsf" macros to include the eps graphic into my TeX
document.
(4) Once the TeX file is compiled, it shows up "correctly" in TeXview. All
the fonts appear to be there. As soon as you print (from TeXview), the
output looks fine everywhere except that the annotations within the eps
graphic come out in COURIER!!!!!
(5) The amazing thing is that all TeX equations and text use the
postscript fonts. More strange is the fact that I could print the eps file
itself from Preview without a problem!!
Hence, the problem reduces to that of the loss of font information from
the included eps graphics when processed by dvips.
I would greatly appreciate any help or ideas. This problem does not happen
on my Black NeXT when I process and print the same TeX file.
Thanks for your help...
_______________________________________________________________
Tarek G. Shawki Associate Professor
134 Talbot Laboratory Theoretical & Applied Mechanics
Tel: 217 333 7131 University of Illinois
Fax: 217 333 3625 104 South Wright Street
E-mail: t-shawki@uiuc.edu Urbana, Illinois 61801
From: t-shawki@uiuc.edu (Tarek G. Shawki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Font Problems with DVIPS & TeXview
Date: 6 Jun 1994 09:22:52 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2suptc$hu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: fonts, dvips, texview, postscript, tex
I do have a strange problem related to the printing of postscript CM fonts
from within TeXview. More specifically, I have installed postscript
versions of the computer modern fonts. I have also edited the
/usr/lib/tex/ps/psfonts.map and built the fonts. In fact, the fonts are
all available from the font panel to all applications. Furthermore, the
fonts work correctly with TeXview as far as screen display is concerned.
Now, here is the problematic scenario:
(1) I draw a sketch using Diagram 2.0. I then annotate the sketch with
equations produced by writing the TeX code in an Edit window and then
invoking the service "TeXview -> TeX EQ->.EPS". I copy the resulting
equation and paste it in Diagram. The equation looks great in Diagram and
it can be sized without loss of resolution (since it is now in
postscript).
(2) I save the annotated sketch from Diagram in an "eps" format.
(3) I now use the "epsf" macros to include the eps graphic into my TeX
document.
(4) Once the TeX file is compiled, it shows up "correctly" in TeXview. All
the fonts appear to be there. As soon as you print (from TeXview), the
output looks fine everywhere except that the annotations within the eps
graphic come out in COURIER!!!!!
(5) The amazing thing is that all TeX equations and text use the
postscript fonts. More strange is the fact that I could print the eps file
itself from Preview without a problem!!
Hence, the problem reduces to that of the loss of font information from
the included eps graphics when processed by dvips.
I would greatly appreciate any help or ideas. This problem does not happen
on my Black NeXT when I process and print the same TeX file.
Thanks for your help...
_______________________________________________________________
Tarek G. Shawki Associate Professor
134 Talbot Laboratory Theoretical & Applied Mechanics
Tel: 217 333 7131 University of Illinois
Fax: 217 333 3625 104 South Wright Street
E-mail: t-shawki@uiuc.edu Urbana, Illinois 61801
From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Oracle Financials?
Date: 6 Jun 1994 13:27:37 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2sv889$31d@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <Cqyxo9.DK7@demon.co.uk>
paul@psmpaul.demon.co.uk (Paul Meier) writes:
>Does anyone have Oracle Financials working with a Next client?
Oracle Financials won't run directly on a NEXTSTEP client, since
the package is implemented in Oracle's development tools (Forms,
Report Writer, etc.). These tools are not available under NS.
However, you could telnet to (or otherwise access) another Oracle-
supported system running Oracle Financials, from your NEXTSTEP
client.
Royce Howland
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Subject: Re: WWW access?
Message-ID: <CqzIJt.I8o@ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: Omniweb, NASA, WWW, URL
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
References: <1994Jun3.184443.21008@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 16:45:29 GMT
In article <1994Jun3.184443.21008@cc.usu.edu> writes:
> When I see a posting that describes of information available
> like this:
>
> > http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
> > Look under "News Flashes"
>
> Can I access this using OmniWeb.app? If so, how?
In OmniWeb, right uner the HTTP browser is a text-field
labled "URL:" (NOT the "Highlighted URL:" at bottom). I enter
the ULR information here and press return. If available, this gets
me the Web page.
Also, as someone else mentioned, the menu item
Document->Open URL...
will bring up a window to enter the URL in. The keyboard
equivalent is command-o. All these methods have worked for
me.
BTW: for the NASA bufs our there, I keep
http://hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov/NASA_homepage.html
in my Bookmarks. It brings up a page which lets me get to most
of the NASA sites.
Todd heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu
From: mahmud@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mahmud Haque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TITANIC NEXTSTEP SALE..Just $399..(or is that Gigantic?)
Date: 6 Jun 1994 21:01:17 GMT
Organization: Talus Corporation, Houston,Tx
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t02qu$32v@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
Keywords: NEXTSTEP/LaSTEXPO/TITANIC/$399
YES...the company NeXT loves to hate, brings you the sale you're
going to LOVE! The TITANIC NEXTSTEP for Intel SALE BEGINS Saturday,
June 4th!
Well we've been listening to everyone tell us that they'd buy more
copies of NEXTSTEP "if it were just cheaper". We're giving you a
chance to put your money where your mouth is.....and you DON'T have
to go to LaSTEXPO to get OUR deal!
(THEIR DEAL....)
If sign up for the developer sessions at EXPO.......... .. $995
you can buy a bundle of user and developer for.............$299
which means that you pay a total of.......................$1294
This is, of course, if you walk to San Francisco, not fly, don't eat
or drink anything while you're there and sleep with some of the more
"colorful" characters that populate the####################################################################
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is GNUPLOT avaliable for NS/FIP?
Date: 7 Jun 1994 04:00:42 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <2t0rda$45s@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <2rs9cc$sl4@due.uninett.no>
In article <2rs9cc$sl4@due.uninett.no> eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein
Dugstad) writes:
> I'm used to GNUPLOT from before, so I would like to have it on my NeXT
as
> well: Do anyone know where I can find a NS/FIP binary or a source that
> will
> complile (without to much hazzle) on NS/FIP
>
> Thanks in advance
> Eystein Dugstad
> SFIH, Norway
E-mail to davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu will tell you where to get it. I
have it running on NS but I forget where I got it.
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Date: 7 Jun 1994 06:30:39 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t146f$2ag@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
I heard a rumor that FrameMaker was coming back. Is there any truth to it?
Roland
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing
telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department
---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: owrede@Beavis.khm.Uni-Koeln.DE (Oliver Wrede)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP Server on Intel
Date: 7 Jun 1994 11:43:52 GMT
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t1mhoINN1tso@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE>
--
Hello,
I am looking for Software to set up a SLIP Server on my Intel
based NeXTStep. Does somone know what I can use and where to
get it? I would prefer to get Freeware or GNU, for I have not
enough time to register something...
Thank you.
OW
. Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de .
. Fachbereich Design . Fachhochschule Koeln . . . . . . . . . . .
. Kunsthochschule fuer Medien . Koeln . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright)
Subject: Net Stuff
Message-ID: <Cr12EM.Lvv@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Virtual Ventures
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 12:51:58 GMT
Have there been any versions of the standard net utilities (ftp, gopher, etc)
produced with a NeXT interface?
thanx
jay
--
*******************************************************************
Jason Bright
Masters- Systems and Computer Engineering
Carleton University
jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca
"I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma."
-The Wizard of Oz
*******************************************************************
From: louis.m.mcdonald@aero.org (Louis McDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: A previous NeXT Announcement
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 1994 10:04:14 -0500
Organization: The Aerospace Corporate - East
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <louis.m.mcdonald-070694100414@warrenton.aero.org>
Cannot seem to find the annoncement about a product that will
allow black hardware to boot up as a NeXT. Does anyone have the
information?
--
Louis McDonald
703-318-5406 (office) 703-318-5409 (fax)
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A previous NeXT Announcement
Date: 7 Jun 1994 14:59:38 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t220q$6ga@hippo.shef.ac.uk>
References: <louis.m.mcdonald-070694100414@warrenton.aero.org>
Louis McDonald (louis.m.mcdonald@aero.org) wrote:
: Cannot seem to find the annoncement about a product that will
: allow black hardware to boot up as a NeXT. Does anyone have the
: information?
:
NEXTSTEP, available from NeXT Inc., will do this.
It's currently in version 3.2.
I suspect you wanted to ask a different question...?! :-)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: mleggott@sandnc.stfx.ca (Mark Leggott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Tektronix or vt240 emulation
Date: 7 Jun 1994 11:55:19 -0300
Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network
Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca
Message-ID: <2t21on$saq@owl.nstn.ns.ca>
Keywords: tektronix vt240
I am looking for a NeXT app that will give me Tektronix and/or vt240
terminal emulation. I have seen the Communicae demo, but would like to try
and find something free/cheaper as I only need it temporarily for a
visting researcher.
Can I use C-Kermit? I know the DOS version supports terminal type TEK.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
================================================================
***
Information Technology in the Hands of Many
Is a Powerful Enabling Tool
Information Technology in the Hands of Few
Is a Powerful Weapon
***
Mark Leggott, Cybrarian / NeXT Administrator / Systems Librarian
Angus L. MacDonald Library, St. Francis Xavier University
P.O. Box 5000, Antigonish, Nova Scotia, B2G 2W5 Canada
Voice 902-867-2168 FAX 902-867-5153 mleggott@sandnc.stfx.ca
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From: lsean@VNET.IBM.COM
Message-ID: <19940607.090955.115@almaden.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 94 11:08:32 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PC <-> NeXT connectivity
I'm thinking about hooking up my PC w/ my blackbox, using the latter machine
as a NFS server. Anybody recommends any kind of (presumably inexpensive)
NFS software that runs smoothly with NeXT on the PC? How about connecting
a Mac w/ a NeXT in the same topology? Is there any recommended Ethernet card
for PC or Mac?
Also, any suggestion for a communication software that supports fax, terminal
emulation, and xmodem/kermit protocols?
Thanks in advance,
Holmes Liao
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Wanted: Word Processor for NS/FIP
Message-ID: <Cr19nx.J6n@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <2t0lt3$b0b@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:28:43 GMT
In article <2t0lt3$b0b@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> chi@kaiwan.com (LCC) writes:
>>Looking for Word Processor Programs for NS/FIP.
>>
>>E-mail to chi@kaiwan.com
Buy WriteUp from AFS when it gets out of beta.
Anderson Financial Systems, Inc.
909 Sumneytown Pike, Suite 207
Springhouse, PA 19477
1-215-653-0911
fax +1-215-653-0711
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CIM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Solution Wanted: Imaging & document management solution for legal case management
Message-ID: <Cr1wHC.29q@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <2ss86t$lft@yarrina.connect.com.au>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 23:41:36 GMT
In article <2ss86t$lft@yarrina.connect.com.au> (Horace Lim) hal@xedoc.com.au writes:
We are looking for innovative NEXTSTEP-based imaging and document solutions for an
existing legal customer in Australia. A "ready to run" system would be ideal but needs
to highly scalable to several million documents. Preference will be given to solutions
which Xedoc can customise for the client.
For further information about the customer requirements, please mail me directly.
Horace Lim, Channels Manager (hal@xedoc.com.au)
Xedoc Software Development
--------------------------------
Yes there is one, called ARCHIV-2000 (But I think they have to change their name)
Anyhow, you get informations about that if you write email to info@netconx.de
The firm is called NETconsult
The adress is:
NETconsult
Computersysteme GmbH
Eberstrassse 16
07743 Jena (West Germany)
Tel. +49 3641-5808-0
Fax. +49 3641-5808-15
Email: info@netconx.de
Nice Greetings from Munich
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81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: emt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Michael Taleff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 7 Jun 1994 17:18:14 GMT
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Message-ID: <2t2a4m$dq4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2soghk$dhi@hearst.cac.psu.edu> <2t0mvk$25f@network.ucsd.edu>
I have been using SciPlot quite a bit, and although a little
complicated to figure out at first, it does a really wonderful job for
publication-quality 2-D graphs. It has very convenient calculation
features and curve-fitting tools. SciPlot is WELL worth the modest
shareware price and the time needed to figure it out. I have come to
the opinion that SciPlot is one of the best graphing tools available,
both on NeXT and other platforms, for the kind of things that I deal
with.
As far as 3-D plotting, check out NXplot3d by Steve Ludtke at Rice
University. (If it comes from Rice U. it must be great.) It produces
some of the most beautiful 3-D plots that I have ever seen (uses
renderman).
I hope this info is useful to the original poster.
From: obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 7 Jun 1994 18:44:22 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t2f66$gte@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <2t2a4m$dq4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
We use DAN - The Data ANalyzer a lot in our research group. I do most of
the (2-D) plots for my dissertation with it. It might be extended to 3-D
at some point in the future.
--
Andreas Obst
Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics
Virginia Tech
obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu
From: louis.m.mcdonald@aero.org (Louis McDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A previous NeXT Announcement
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 1994 15:25:35 -0500
Organization: The Aerospace Corporate - East
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <louis.m.mcdonald-070694152535@warrenton.aero.org>
References: <louis.m.mcdonald-070694100414@warrenton.aero.org>
In article <louis.m.mcdonald-070694100414@warrenton.aero.org>,
louis.m.mcdonald@aero.org (Louis McDonald) wrote:
>
>
> Cannot seem to find the annoncement about a product that will
> allow black hardware to boot up as a NeXT. Does anyone have the
> information?
>
> --
>
> Louis McDonald
> 703-318-5406 (office) 703-318-5409 (fax)
Sorry, I meant boot up as a MACINTOSH.....okay so I did not
proof this well.
--
Louis McDonald
703-318-5406 (office) 703-318-5409 (fax)
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Date: 7 Jun 94 20:31:46 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.771021106@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <2t146f$2ag@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> writes:
>I heard a rumor that FrameMaker was coming back. Is there any truth to it?
As far as I know, it remains a rumor. All the talk I've heard tells
me to get the latest Frame for Windows or the Mac if you want a
steadily supported and bugfixed Frame for the forseeable future.
--
No NeXTmail please
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scandinavian hyphenation in NeXTTeX
Date: 7 Jun 1994 20:58:36 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Message-ID: <2t2n1t$gu8@due.uninett.no>
I have a hyphenation-file for Norwegian, but as you probably know, that
file contains some characters that are not a part of the 7-bit ascii set.
How can I install that file with initex?
I've tried to put the remap.tex file in the folder where i run initex,
I've tried to put \aa instead of a-ring etc in the hyphenation-file, and
finally I've tried to type 'input next' in the plain.tex file. Nothing of
this worked.
Any help is greatly appreciated
Eystein Dugstad
Sogn og Fjordane Engineering Colleg, Norway
From: rashidi@thunder.acs.wmich.edu (Reza Rashidi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MapleV2 on NS
Date: 7 Jun 1994 21:12:08 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University
Message-ID: <2t2nr8$5bq@gumby.cc.wmich.edu>
Keywords: Maple, Symbolic Algebra
I just played with the most recent release of Maple on the NeXT a little bit.
There is significant improvements. The previous version had a lot of bugs. I
have not had any problems with this one yet. It is also in MAB format but I
have not had a chance to run it on NS/FIP yet. Has anyone else tried it yet?
Care to share your experience?
--
Reza Rashidi
rashidi@wmich.edu
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From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: Is GNUPLOT avaliable for NS/FIP?
Message-ID: <davisreCr1tvL.EBB@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services
References: <2rs9cc$sl4@due.uninett.no> <2t0rda$45s@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 22:45:21 GMT
In article <2t0rda$45s@network.ucsd.edu>, Harmon Craig <hcraig@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>In article <2rs9cc$sl4@due.uninett.no> eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein
>Dugstad) writes:
>> I'm used to GNUPLOT from before, so I would like to have it on my NeXT
>as
>> well: Do anyone know where I can find a NS/FIP binary or a source that
>> will
>> complile (without to much hazzle) on NS/FIP
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Eystein Dugstad
>> SFIH, Norway
>
>E-mail to davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu will tell you where to get it. I
>have it running on NS but I forget where I got it.
>
Sorry, I missed the original post when I was out of town or I
would have responded. Source for Gnuplot 1.2 (a NeXTSTEP version of
gnuplot 3.4) is available at sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/3.0/src. It
should compile under NeXTSTEP 3.x, Motorola, Intel, or otherwise. A
binary for Motorola exists in /pub/3.0/bin. Both should be available
at cs.orst.edu, too, but I don't know where.
The plotting engine on which it is based (gnuplot 3.4) is
fairly limited and may not be suitable for heavy-duty scientific
applications, but for general purpose use it seems to be okay.
Comments should be sent to the authors of gnuplot -- I just did the
pretty NeXTSTEP stuff :-)
It's somewhat out-of-date, and a newer, niftier app is about
half done but has been delayed -- I've had to concentrate on the apps
that pay the bills, dontcha know. But it'll be out eventually.
Check out the thread on scientific graphing apps in this group
for info on other packages.
Rob
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| Robert Davis DavisRE@netcom.com
| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
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From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS Emacs - Installing in ~/Apps?
Date: 8 Jun 1994 03:13:14 GMT
Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding.
Message-ID: <2t3d0a$pr9@garuda.csulb.edu>
I've used Emacs for NS a bit recently, and I've liked it alot. Problem is
thats I would like to install it in my local ~/Apps directory, but the
install package places it in /LocalApps/ and I wasnt able to copy it over
to ~/Apps and successfully run it.
Any suggestions as to how I can install it in my personal Apps directory
successfully?
--
___
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\/__/ Academic Computing Services url : http://www.csulb.edu/~vamp/
NeXTstep California State University at Long Beach --- Network Support
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From: jesperse@rft28.nas.nasa.gov (Dennis Jespersen)
Subject: matlab look-alike (was: Re: Scientific Graphing)
In-Reply-To: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu's message of 4 Jun 1994 00:06:12 GMT
Message-ID: <JESPERSE.94Jun6134056@rft28.nas.nasa.gov>
Sender: news@cnn.nas.nasa.gov (News Administrator)
Organization: Computational Algorithms and Applications Branch, NASA Ames
Research Center
References: <2snp1r$lis@network.ucsd.edu> <2soghk$dhi@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 20:40:56 GMT
I don't think anyone in this thread has yet mentioned rlab
("Our-Lab"), a matlab look-alike which works under NEXTSTEP 3.2. It's
available under the GPL and cooperates with gnuplot.
The ftp-sites are:
Primary Site:
evans.ee.adfa.oz.au pub/RLaB
Also:
pinus.slu.se pub/gnu/RLaB
csi.jpl.nasa.gov pub/matlab/RLaB
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From: jesperse@rft28.nas.nasa.gov (Dennis Jespersen)
Subject: matlab look-alike (was: Re: Scientific Graphing)
In-Reply-To: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu's message of 4 Jun 1994 00:06:12 GMT
Message-ID: <JESPERSE.94Jun6134056@rft28.nas.nasa.gov>
Sender: news@cnn.nas.nasa.gov (News Administrator)
Organization: Computational Algorithms and Applications Branch, NASA Ames
Research Center
References: <2snp1r$lis@network.ucsd.edu> <2soghk$dhi@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 20:40:56 GMT
I don't think anyone in this thread has yet mentioned rlab
("Our-Lab"), a matlab look-alike which works under NEXTSTEP 3.2. It's
available under the GPL and cooperates with gnuplot.
The ftp-sites are:
Primary Site:
evans.ee.adfa.oz.au pub/RLaB
Also:
pinus.slu.se pub/gnu/RLaB
csi.jpl.nasa.gov pub/matlab/RLaB
--
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MS T27B-1 FAX: (415) 604-1095
NASA Ames Research Center email: jesperse@rft28.nas.nasa.gov
Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 We have met the enemy and he is us. -- Pogo
From: chi@kaiwan.com (LCC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: Word Processor for NS/FIP
Date: 6 Jun 1994 19:26:43 -0700
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920)
Message-ID: <2t0lt3$b0b@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
Looking for Word Processor Programs for NS/FIP.
E-mail to chi@kaiwan.com
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 7 Jun 1994 02:45:08 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <2t0mvk$25f@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <2soghk$dhi@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
In article <2soghk$dhi@hearst.cac.psu.edu> mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark
E. Kotanchek) writes:
> > What *scientific* graphing programs exist for NextStep---White or
Green?
> >
> > Free? Commercial?
> >
> > 2-d? 3-d? Command line? GUI?
Available scientific graphing programs for NS: GraphRite,
GraphBuilder, Abscissa, Chartsmith, Gnuplot, Mathematica, nxyplot,
SciPlot, are the ones I am currently testing. All but Mathematica are
available on ftp somewhere. I discarded GraphRite: a poor program I
think. GraphBuilder is probably the most versatile, but it is VERY
complex to figure out, and we don't have it running yet. Of the others
Abscissa is the one I am using routinely at the moment. Abscissa and
SciPlot are two very similar clones from an original larger program:
both come from Germany, and SciPlot is much more complicated: I don't
have it figured out yet either. Abscissa is a nice program and is under
continuous development: it still needs work. It is by far the easiest
to use and get started with. It is on cs.orst.edu, and I think some of
the others are there too. Some of these have 3D.
Macintosh JMP is an outstanding statistical and plotting program
and I am hoping it will run under Executor on NS: I have a query in to
the Executor people at this moment.
Gnuplot looks very good and may be the best. I also would be
glad to hear of other plotting programs people have used, 2D and 3D (for
data plotting, NOT making pretty pictures!).
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
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From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: SUBMISSION: BeakerBoy v0.3. Chemistry visualization
Message-ID: <Cquoty.6Iw@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Keywords: 3dkit, chemistry, sci-tools, RenderMan
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab.
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 02:13:09 GMT
BeakerBoy v0.3 uploaded to:
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (/next/Science/chemistry/)
ftp.embl-heidelberg.de (/pub/sci-tools/submissions/programs/)
cs.orst.edu (/pub/next/binaries/science/)
(if you don't find the packages there, they might still be in the
submisson directories)
Release 0.3, 31.05.1994 by Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org)
The BeakerBoy Application
This nice guy is trying to provide a basic framework for chemical
vizualization. It serves as the center of a possible collection of many
different chemical tools that should be able to cooperate accross a
network and different hardware platforms.
As a main goal I want to create a flexible app design that is very simple
to extend via additional bundles.
The current Release
Version 0.3 still has to be considered as an alpha version that is under
development and might change a lot. To get a little impression of the
things I have in mind for the releases yet to come read the second chapter
of this documentation.
I would like to get any kind of feedback from other programmers or chemist
to make this app more intuitive, flexible and maybe find some better
solutions.
All you can do with the current version is:
1. Load some sample molecules.
2. Create new regions by grouping either atoms or bonds.
3. Use the Inspector to adjust the graphical parameters (color,
styles, etc.).
4. Doubleclick any collection of selected regions to show them.
5. Rotate the molecules using the RotatorPanel or the
3DDeviceServer.
6. Print the views.
Every view you see will be drawn using the settings valid at the moment of
creation! Later changes won't affect any already visible view. Right now
you might consider this as a feature because you might open the same
region with as many different settings as you like. But this definitly
will change in the future.
The Package
This release comes with the following resources. They are split in
seperate packages to give you the freedom of only downloading the parts
you are interested in.
BeakerBoy.app & Documentation.
The BeakerBoy.0.3.NI.b.tar.gz archive contains a plug'n'play
binary for NeXT and Intel hardware that was compiled under
NeXTSTEP v3.2. The program has been only tested on original black
hardware.
Source.
In BeakerBoy.0.3.s.tar.gz you can find the complete sourcecode
for this project. More details on compiling are included below.
LookMolecules.
If you want an example molecule collection get the since
BeakerBoy v0.2 unchanged BeakerBoy-LookMolecules.0.1.d.tar.gz
archive. This package has its seperate version number.
All it does
This is a quick summary of the features this version offers. A complete
history of all the versions, their features and the currently known bugs
can be found inside the Release Notes.
v0.3 3DDeviceServer support for using 3D mouse devices.
More filefilters (Look3D,Alchemy, MacMolecule, MVT)
Uses the IconKit for drag&drop.
Allows simple grouping which will creat regions.
Few preferences (background color, and 3DMouse on/off).
Uses different render settings for rotation and displaying.
Printing the views.
v0.2 Load multiple molecules (Look3D format) and show them with
multiple camera views using different styles. The
coordinate system is left-handed (x to the right, y upwards
and z into the screen. The camera is positioned on the
negative z axis). I'm not sure if this is the common
orientation ? If not, please give me a hint.
Rotate molecules.
Set different molecule styles and rendering qualities.
(Hollow Sticks, Round Sticks, Balls & Sticks, Spacefilling
CPK)
Show a nice interface with no function at all...hold on for
a while to see a lot of thing get implemented and improved.
Bright Future
Here is a rough overview of my privat timetable for this project. Given
the fact that I'm a student it might be possible to make it a non-vapour
project :-)
More details can be found in the next chapter:
('94) Load, save, new, ... basic stuff.
More fileFilters. (PDB high on the list)
Helppages.
Using Bundles.
Simple stereo-camera.
Molecule construction from basic fragments. (atoms, bonds,
molecules)
A simple German localization.
('95) Tools executable on remote machines via PDO: HP, Sun, SGI,
DEC servers?
StructureBoy...a 2D chemistry drawing tool.
Nice clipping planes. Other drawing styles.
Protein building tool.
Energy optimization.
('99) Direkt brain-slot adaptor and other simple extentions.
...include here what you like. It might get real.
More Details
I am trying to make it as NeXTSTEP' ish as possible. Full Drag&Drop,
Object Links etc. will definitly be added someday. There will be APIs for
any kind of loadable bundle or service link.
PDO will find its way into this project too. It is almost ideal for
creating server based number crunching analysis tools.
And once the SCI-Tools project gets on the road I will try to make
BeakerBoy compatible or what ever might be necessary to allow easy
coexistance.
As said before. This app wants to provide a well defined API, reusable
objects and a flexible concept. It is not designed to squeeze the last bit
out of memory or CPU performance. The basic idea is to provide useful
working speed with almost any molecule size on any hardware. This will
need a wide variety of QRenderMan settings. For really impressive pictures
I might add some kind of link to solidModeller, intuitiv3D, etc. (some
basic shading stuff will be included in BeakerBoy too).
Feel free to send comments on the app, interface, molecule files or what
ever. But please just send messages with useable information...not
something like: "I hate it"...please say why you hate it ;o)
If you are interested in chemistry on NeXTSTEP checkout MolViewer from
Steve Ludtke. Not as pretty as my app :-) but a lot more useful (at the
moment). Georg Tuparev from EMBL/SCITools is writing a frontend to
MolScript and porting WHATIF. Maybe those projects are interesting for you
too.
Compiling
Sorry, you will need the MOKit, IconKit and MiscKit to compile the app.
Some objects which have been included in v0.2 moved to the MiscKit and are
no longer present in this project.
If you are interested in programming you should get those libraries
anyway. There are many good, reusable objects in there.
I will drop the MOKit in the future once I have decided which string class
to use. With NeXT having announced their own class I will wait until I
have seen their objects.
What is the 3DDeviceServer
The allow the user to rotate and move a molecule BeakerBoy uses the
3DDeviceServer.app. It is a PDO based server app that does control the
access to any kind of 3D hardware. It is available at all the major
NeXTSTEP ftp-sites (cs.orst.edu and ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de)
Distribution
Like with every programm you may find on this planet: NO WARRANTY for what
every may happen to your data, computer, familie life, home or monthly
paycheck etc. pp.
Right now the whole project is under Copyleft (GNUpublic license). If you
do some additions or bug-fixes please let me know.
Otherwise this is travel-ware. If you like it. Send me a postcard, e-mail
or whatever. Include your address and maybe I'll come to visit you for a
day when I'll do my US-surf/snowboard trip someday in '94/'95. (Locations
on Hawaii or near Whistler Mt. CAN. preferred :-)
Credits
- The guys at NeXT for this amazing OS + development tools. This was
my first NeXTSTEP/Objc-C application and the code was written
within 71 days (see the Release Notes). I would have never believed
that this was possible. And it was fun too.
- Steve Ludtke for the 3DKit code inside MolViewer that gave me a
quick start. Although I don't find his code very readable...but it
works.
- Greg Burd's swapView saved me a lot of time and helped me with all
the swapping. But it needed a complete rewrite to meet the apps
needs.
- Mike Ferris for the MOKit. Very nice and useful objects for
everybody. If you don't have them...get them from a NeXT ftp-site.
String objects are sooo nice.
- H. Scott Roy for the IconKit. A very well designed object
collection for the basic drag&drop stuff. You can find it on every
NeXTSTEP ftp site.
- Everybody writing nice objects like the guys from the MiscKit (Don
don't get tired of keeping it all together. Misc is cool)
- My brother for all the nice images and chemistry background info I
might not remember in detail anymore.
Enjoy it.
Tomi
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From: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Subject: A problem with Opener 3.1x (x>1)
Message-ID: <1994Jun3.181810.786@ideal.muc.de>
Sender: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Organization: Eversmile
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 18:18:10 GMT
Every time I tried to Command-Drop a directory on the Opener Icon, a alert-panel comes up
and tells me that Opener couldn't open the directory. Same situation with .ps files.
Does anybody have seen the problem?
I use NS3.2/Black
Thanks anyway
--
____________________________________________________________
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Germany, 85716 Unterschleissheim, Sportplatzstrasse 7
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: ttydsp status ?
References: <2sk7q2$ad8@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 07:40:00 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jun5.074000.4867@proximus.north.de>
In article <2sk7q2$ad8@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>,
Mike Trogni <mjt@is.us.swissbank.com> wrote:
>
>is the ttydsp package still available ? I'm getting into modeming again
>and have heard there are lots of benefits to using my cube DSP for this
>kind of thing.
I tried to answer via email, but:
>>> RCPT To:<mjt@is.us.swissbank.com>
<<< 554 <mjt@is.us.swissbank.com>... Never heard of host is . us in domain oz
554 mjt@is.us.swissbank.com... Service unavailable
Now as I don't want to find out the proper address, simply via
posting, it might be interesting to other people anyhow:
-------------- 8< --------------------------
TTYDSP
V1.1
Product Information
TTYDSP is a hardware and software package which uses the Digital Signal
Processor (DSP) and DSP port on a NeXT computer to provide a third RS-232
compatible serial port, accessible through the standard UNIX tty interface.
System Requirements
- NeXT computer running NeXTSTEP 3.0 or higher
- 3.5" floppy disk drive.
Features
- Reliable, efficient, high-performance serial communications.
- Wide selection of baud rates, including 57,600 and 76,800 baud,
with a top speed of 128,000 baud.
- Compatibility with existing NeXT serial port communications software.
- Dedicated use of the DSP.
- RS-232C with RTS/CTS (hard flow control) and DCD/DTR control lines.
Target Applications
- High speed modems (9600 baud and greater).
- Driving high performance printers and plotters.
- Data acquisition.
Using the NeXT's DSP, TTYDSP creates a third, powerful serial port on the
NeXT computer which improves system performance for high-speed serial transfers
and offers the throughput required for high performance peripherals.
Contact Yrrid for information regarding SLIP/PPP compatibility.
Pricing and availability:
The TTYDSP list price is $189. TTYDSP is now available from
Next Connection
1-800-800-NEXT or (603) 446-7771
Educational discounts:
TTYDSP costs $129 plus shipping and handling for students and $149 for
educational staff. Educational discounts are only available directly
from Yrrid.
Yrrid Incorporated
507 Monroe Street
Chapel Hill, NC 27516 USA
Phone: 1-800-443-0065 or (919) 968-7858
Email: yrrid@yrrid.com
-------------- 8< --------------------------
Thanks to Uwe for the infos! ;-)
Gerhard.
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From: jfb@langoz.biomath.jussieu.fr (BOISVIEUX Jean-Francois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: need sources to compile on HP NeXT
Date: 8 Jun 1994 07:20:30 GMT
Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France
Message-ID: <2t3rfu$ici@vishnu.jussieu.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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Keywords: HP NeXT, porting Apps
I'm the happy owner of a Gecko 80 running NeXSTEP (beta); I'm searching
the sources of various applications such as newsgrazer, gatorftp, openapp,
imageviewer, tickleservices . Anybody 's help should be extremely
appreciated
--
Jean-Francois Boisvieux
Departement de Biomathematiques
Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere
75013 Paris
France
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: What does NeXT sell?
Message-ID: <1994Jun7.202709.7661@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <2soam5$3et@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:27:09 GMT
In article <2soam5$3et@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
writes:
> If you call NeXT at 1-800-try-next, option 1, you get an interesting
> response. Try it yourself. I got the response of: "Sir, NeXT
> sells only two software products. NeXTstep Release 3.2 for Intel
> Processors and NeXTstep Developer, Release 3.2."
>
Not true! I got NS 3.2 for Moto recently (and I'm positively sure it was
from NeXT :-)
> Am I missing something? Can't customers buy PDO v1.0 for HP, and
> NetInfo for HP/SPARC machines? These are shipping products, correct?
Most likely only sold through SUN and HP channels. Call their sales and
get frustrated ;-)
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
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GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP-Emacs and AUCTeX 9.1e problem
Date: 8 Jun 1994 11:29:33 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <2t4a2t$61b@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
With NEXTSTEP Emacs and AUCTeX I encounter the following problem: The
points 'Insert enviroment' and 'Change enviroment' contain just one
point: 'Upgrade easymenu.el'. This happens with emacs-19.22 as well as 24
and every AUCTeX version 9.1x.
Is anybody else running this configuration with success ?
Gregor
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From: a5401gac@c1.edvz.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIDI driver for 486
Date: 8 Jun 1994 12:20:39 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <2t4d2n$j6r@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: How to add /usr/local/man/ pages to Edit
Message-ID: <Cr2vvs.I68@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:26:16 GMT
The Utilities->Manual... function in Edit is quite useful. Yet how could
I view /usr/local/man/ pages through this function ?
Thanks in advance.
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
(NeXTMail Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Is Standard Unix [cut] and [paste] available on NeXT ?
Message-ID: <Cr2vzG.I7t@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:28:28 GMT
Are the cut and paste commands, from standard Unix, available on NeXT ?
Thanks in advance.
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
(NeXTMail Welcome)
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sybase and ORACLE update
Date: 8 Jun 1994 14:00:02 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2t4it2$gj9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I just called both SyBase and ORACLE....
SyBase sez: (and the lamer I talked to was rude and uninterested
with even talking to me for a second) "we are not going to support NeXTSTEP"
ORACLE sez: (and the lady who I talked to was really nice)
"we plan on releasing a product soon, but it's not ready yet"
so, my question still stands hey, maybe I am clueless):
How do I set up a stand-alone system to use DBkit... I'm sorry, but I am
under the understanding that I need a server to access, that DBkit will not
run alone....
please fill me in and help me get a clue....
thanks!
Gary Lalim
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From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DIKU MUD compiled on NS?
Date: 8 Jun 1994 15:44:16 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t4p0g$7j3@netnews.upenn.edu>
Hi,
Has anyone compiled DIKU MUD under NeXTSTEP?
Thanks
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: magnkj@palladium.zinc.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WP to {Frame, RTF} conversion utility
Date: 8 Jun 1994 16:23:44 GMT
Organization: Zinc Software Incorporated
Message-ID: <2t4rag$n7t@chromium.zinc.com>
Does anyone have a WordPerfect 5.x-to-FrameMaker {MIF, 3.0, 4.0}
conversion utility? Failing that, does anyone have a WordPerfect
5.x-to-RTF conversion utility? I need one that works on a command line.
Yes, Frame does import WordPerfect and RTF files, but not as a batch
process. I need to convert roughly 50 MBs of documentation from
WordPerfect to Frame.
............................kris
--
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kmagnusson@zinc.com Technical publications
-----------------------------------------------------------------
I never read documentation because (a) documentation irritates me
and (b) I can't read.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gery@ares.fdn.org (Gery Divry)
Subject: Convert RTF from NeXT to Windozzzz and reverse
Message-ID: <1994Jun8.142801.798@ares.fdn.org>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.org
Organization: Ares - Lyon, France.
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:28:01 GMT
I am looking for a little convertor for RTF Files
allowing me to converse with people on WORD for windozzzzzz
without loosing all the accentued letters.
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
From: bonnie@umiacs.umd.edu (Bonnie J. Dorr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where does BuildDOS live?
Date: 8 Jun 1994 13:39:32 -0400
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t4vok$dat@carissa.umiacs.umd.edu>
I am trying to format a new, unformatted disk using SoftPC. The
manual says you must use the BuildDOS application to format it before
using it with SoftPC. I cannot seem to find this application
anywhere. Does anyone know where it lives or where I can acquire it?
Is this something that evaporated (along with a bunch of other things)
when I switched to release 3?
Thanks,
Bonnie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: Kjell.Borg@um.erisoft.se (Kjell Borg)
Subject: Driver for Weitek P9100?
Message-ID: <1994Jun8.080949.26000@um.erisoft.se>
Sender: usenet@um.erisoft.se (For NNTP posting)
Organization: Erisoft AB Umea Sweden
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 08:09:49 GMT
Does anyone know if the Weitek P9000 driver will workfor the Genoa VideoBlitz 9400VL (Also refered to as VideoBlitz II for VL-bus)? Since it not mutch more expensive than the VideoBlitz 9200VL but has mutch higher performance, it would be interesting if the driver would work for Weitek P9100 hardware.
/Kjell
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From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lynx 2.3 on a black next
Date: 8 Jun 1994 18:08:54 GMT
Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding.
Message-ID: <2t51fm$jre@garuda.csulb.edu>
References: <1994May26.181020.19905@iitmax.iit.edu>
And Boyan I. Boyanov<boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu> spake unto the masses:
>However, when I launched Lynx a very annoying problem showed up:
>ALL links are block-highlighted.
Yup. Its a problem with the NeXT curses library as I recall. Nothign much
the author can do about it.
>Does anybody know how/if I can fix the problem?
Get ncurses. This is supposed to fix it. A version hacked for NeXTs is
available at arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:pub/comp/platforms/next.
>I also tried to make next-ncurses but the make failed because
>the compiler could not find <ncurses.h>. Is ncurses a
>NS 3.x thingy?
No, it doesnt come with 3.x. I've attempted to compile it for 2.1 and 3.0
with no success. It was able to successfully compile on a 3.2 box though.
Has anyone managed to compile the ncurses library for 2.1?
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From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Standard Unix [cut] and [paste] available on NeXT ?
Date: 8 Jun 1994 18:10:59 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t51jj$5ea@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>
References: <Cr2vzG.I7t@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
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In article <Cr2vzG.I7t@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong
Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) writes:
> Are the cut and paste commands, from standard Unix, available on NeXT ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mr.WONG Sai Kee
> Graduate Student
> (NeXTMail Welcome)
"cut" is standard SYS V unix. NeXT is standard BSD unix.
The BSD version of "cut" is "colrm". BSD doesn't have
"paste", but there are public domain alternatives
(See, for example, "Unix Power Tools" by Peek et al.)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bagtes@malibu.sfu.ca (Rody Bagtes)
Subject: MIDI player?
Message-ID: <bagtes.771101132@sfu.ca>
Keywords: MIDI next
Sender: news@sfu.ca (seymour news)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:45:32 GMT
Does anyone know of a program that can play general-midi files on the
Next (i.e. NextStations). I know it's got that 56001 DPS, so I'd like to
find out how it sounds compared to my Gravis Ultrasound.
I'm looking for non-commercial software, so a good internet site for the
Next would be great.
Thanks,
Rody.
From: mzemina@.wiltel.com (Mike Zemina)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Date: 8 Jun 1994 18:37:52 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t5360$egi@gateway.wiltel.com>
References: <2t146f$2ag@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
In article <2t146f$2ag@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan
<telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> writes:
> I heard a rumor that FrameMaker was coming back. Is there any truth to
it?
>
> Roland
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing
> telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
When did FrameMaker die on the NeXT? I have a colleague at another
location that says "If FrameMaker on the NeXT is dead, it's certainly news
to us!" - Help me out with the facts!
mike_zemina@wiltel.com
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sybase and ORACLE update
Date: 8 Jun 1994 17:57:02 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <2t50pe$2gc@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <2t4it2$gj9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In article <2t4it2$gj9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes:
>
> I just called both SyBase and ORACLE....
>
> SyBase sez: (and the lamer I talked to was rude and uninterested
> with even talking to me for a second) "we are not going to support
NeXTSTEP"
>
> ORACLE sez: (and the lady who I talked to was really nice)
> "we plan on releasing a product soon, but it's not ready yet"
>
> so, my question still stands hey, maybe I am clueless):
> How do I set up a stand-alone system to use DBkit... I'm sorry, but I am
> under the understanding that I need a server to access, that DBkit will
not
> run alone....
> please fill me in and help me get a clue....
>
> thanks!
>
>
> Gary Lalim
>
Use another RDBMS:
Quickbase
InterBase
SQLBase
Informix-SE
(Rosebase) later sometimes
or ODBMS:
POET
More need ?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig +
+ iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH +
+ Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany +
+ Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 +
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: A previous NeXT Announcement
Message-ID: <Cr38EA.4y6@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <louis.m.mcdonald-070694152535@warrenton.aero.org>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 16:56:33 GMT
In article <louis.m.mcdonald-070694152535@warrenton.aero.org> louis.m.mcdonald@aero.org
(Louis McDonald) writes:
| In article <louis.m.mcdonald-070694100414@warrenton.aero.org>,
| louis.m.mcdonald@aero.org (Louis McDonald) wrote:
|
| >
| >
| > Cannot seem to find the annoncement about a product that will
| > allow black hardware to boot up as a NeXT. Does anyone have the
| > information?
| >
| > --
| >
| > Louis McDonald
| > 703-318-5406 (office) 703-318-5409 (fax)
|
|
| Sorry, I meant boot up as a MACINTOSH.....okay so I did not
| proof this well.
|
| --
|
| Louis McDonald
| 703-318-5406 (office) 703-318-5409 (fax)
Yes, Daydream will do the job.
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
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Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de
81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: walia@fidelio.rutgers.edu (Ashwin Walia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Presentation Quality Graphs....
Summary: Looking for a presentation quality graphics software for the NEXT.
Keywords: PS,EPS,TEX-COMPATIBLE
Message-ID: <Jun.8.16.15.58.1994.29314@fidelio.rutgers.edu>
Date: 8 Jun 94 20:15:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi Netters,
I am looking for a presentation quality graphics software for the NEXT, which is TeX compatible, can produce PS/EPS output, which is also much more affordable than the TECPLOT software viz. ~ $600/yr.
Pls let me know if you know of any such software available, with as much details about procurement as possible. Pls reply directly to my email add given below.
Thanks
a. walia
(walia@sol.rutgers.edu)
From: walia@fidelio.rutgers.edu (Ashwin Walia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Presentation Quality Graphs....
Summary: : Looking for a presentation quality graphics software for the NEXT.
Keywords: PS,EPS,TEX-COMPATIBLE
Message-ID: <Jun.8.16.37.26.1994.29464@fidelio.rutgers.edu>
Date: 8 Jun 94 20:37:26 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi Netters,
I am looking for a presentation quality graphics software for the NEXT, which is TeX compatible, can produce PS/EPS output, which is also much more affordable than the TECPLOT software viz. ~ $600/yr, and which is user friendly like Macintosh's DeltaGraph. I have heard of InstantTeX, and TIFFany II, and WetPaint, but do not know if they can be of use to me.
Pls let me know if you know of any such software available. Pls reply directly to my email add given below, if possible.
Thanks
a. walia
(walia@sol.rutgers.edu)
From: jmm@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compressed texinfo files in Emacs.app distribution?
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:06:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <940608140615.201AABqM.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I'm sure I'm going to feel stupid when I hear the answer to this one, but...I
just noticed that all of the texinfo files in the Emacs.app distribution from
Carl Edman (in /LocalApps/Emacs.app/info) are gzipped (.gz files), and that
installation built links from the .gz files to my /usr/local/info
subdirectory. I can't figure out why from the ns-emacs texinfo file, and I
don't have the distribution package on my machine so I'm hoping to get the
answer without re-grabbing the full transfer and digging through it.
Why the .gz files? Should info be able to automatically decompress them?
That seems to be implied by the fact that the .gz files were linked over to
/usr/local/info. If so, it ain't happening for me. Before I decompress them
all and recreate the links I'd like to know what's up...?
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 8 Jun 1994 21:03:56 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t5bns$pe7@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <2t2f66$gte@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In article <2t2f66$gte@solaris.cc.vt.edu> obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas
Obst) writes:
> We use DAN - The Data ANalyzer a lot in our research group. I do most of
> the (2-D) plots for my dissertation with it. It might be extended to 3-D
> at some point in the future.
>
Another product to add to the list of scientific plotting products is PV-WAVE
from Visual Numerics. It's suppose to be available this summer or fall and
includes an Interface Builder Palette. This is from their Spring 1994
Newsletter.
- Tim -
--------------------------------------------------------------
Tim F. Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu
Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270
Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064
NeXTmail ok!
From: Leip@torolab.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Your favourite bit of MM
Date: 8 Jun 1994 21:50:38 GMT
Organization: IBM Toronto Lab
Message-ID: <2t5efe$e5b@tornews.torolab.ibm.com>
Is there a bit of computer-based multi-media (MM) that you
particularly like? It might have been a demo, tutorial,
MM used within a product, or used in some other technical
sense. If so, I'd appreciate your taking the time to tell
me about it. Just tell me the name of the product, and how the
piece of MM relates to the product. (ie. tutorial, demo, etc.)
I'd also like to know the platform, and the name of the
product supplier. If you got the MM thingy from an ftp
site, please tell me which one.
Thanks.
David Leip
IBM Toronto Lab.
work: 416-448-3027 <Leip@torolab4> or <Leip@vnet.ibm.com>
home: 519-766-1834 <David@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca>
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,uc.general
Subject: [SUBMISSION] Reprint Request generator for MELVYL (needs NEXTSTEP)
Date: 8 Jun 1994 01:15:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: uc
Message-ID: <2t364b$avd@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: Melvyl, University of California, Current Contents, reprint request
[I set the distribution to "uc", but is there any reason to post with
a wider distribution? Let me know if so. -Izumi]
Announcing availability of:
ReprintReq -- Reprint request generator for use with Current Contents
database accessed via University of California's MELVYL system.
===========================================================
Requirements:
=============
[1] NEXTSTEP 3.x (Motorola or Intel)
[2] Access to Current Contents database on MELVYL.
[3] Non-PostScript printer loaded with continuous feed labels.
(Laser printer labels are not supported.)
===========================================================
FTP site:
=========
Host: pinoko.berkeley.edu
File: /pub/next/ReprintReq1.07.tar.Z
Sum: 35189 118 ReprintReq1.07.tar.Z
This is a binary only distribution containging FAT binary
for Motorola and Intel architectures.
===========================================================
What it does:
=============
This app prints labels that go onto a postcard for requesting
reprints of scientific journal articles. Two labels are printed
for each article requested. One label has the name and address of
the author and the other describes the requested article. The
address of the author and the article description are taken directly
from Melvyl's Current Contents database, so you won't have to
scribble on a postcard by hand, or retype this info.
The user accesses Melvyl using Terminal/Stuart or other terminal
application and performs a search. Once the search is narrowed
down, the user displays the results in the "tagged" format for
parsing by this program. This portion of Melvyl output is
transferred to RepringReq via NEXTSTEP Services mechanism by selecting
the relevant section and pressing "Services->Reprint Request" on
the menu or pressing "Command -" command key equivalent in
Terminal/Stuart. This activates ReprintReq.app which allows further
selection of articles, editing of addresses (if needed), and printing
of labels.
This app requires a cheap non-PostScript printer for printing labels,
e.g., old dot-matrix printers which are typically collecting dust
these days. We considered using laser printer labels, but this
is just too messy for shared printer environment if manual feed or
special label sheets need to be used. Printing on plain paper and
folding it and stuffing it in a windowed envelope is also rejected
to save postage (10-cent difference per request between 1-st class
letter and postcard). So, our solution is to bring back a dot-matrix
printer out of retirement, and dedicate it for label printing for
reprint requests. The labels are then pasted onto a postcard.
Defaults are set up for using 4" x 1 7/16" labels for tractor-feed
printers. Although there is some room for adjustments via Prefrences,
we recommend labels of this size.
Each user prepares a batch of postcard with pre-printed return
address and other standard messages, e.g., "I would greatly appreciate
a reprint of your paper:", etc. All that are needed then is to run
this app, stick on generated labels on the front and back, and send
the postcards out. (And finally, of course, you will closely read the
papers once they arrive!)
I am not sure if there is any use for this app outside of the Univ.
of California system, but access to Current Contents must be available
via other on-line services. I don't know, however, if the "tagged"
format used by Melvyl is a universal format that is offered by other
systems.
This software is provided as is, without warranty and support of
any kind. Since this is something we put together for our internal
use and are pretty happy with the way it works, we probably will
not make major changes. In particular, it is unlikely that the app
will get support for laser printers for reasons mentioned above.
===========================================================
Typical Usage:
==============
% telnet melvyl
Trying 192.35.222.222... Connected to melvyl.berkeley.edu.
Escape character is '^]'.
TERMINAL? vt100
Press RETURN for the MELVYL System ->
-> start cc
CC-> fi au hubel dh
Search request: FI AU HUBEL DH#
Search result: 4 citations in the CC article database
### If the number of citations found is reasonable, do:
### "Command k" here to clear out scroll buffer of Terminal/Stuart.
CC-> d tags long capture
### "Command a" to select all, or manually select relevant block.
### "Command -" to activate ReprintReq.app.
### ReprintReq becomes the active application automatically. Then:
[A] Click on a line in the top browser.
[B] Confirm if the address and description are correct.
Edit if incorrect, and press "Save Edit" button to commit edit.
[C] Press "Add" button if you want to send for a reprint for this article.
[D] Repeat [A..C] for other lines in the top browser.
[E] More searches in Melvyl in Terminal/Stuart and repeat above.
[F] Press "Print" button.
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer)
Subject: Re: WP to {Frame, RTF} conversion utility
Message-ID: <Cr3o1M.BF8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
References: <2t4rag$n7t@chromium.zinc.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 22:34:33 GMT
Kristopher Magnusson (magnkj@palladium.zinc.com) wrote:
: Does anyone have a WordPerfect 5.x-to-FrameMaker {MIF, 3.0, 4.0}
: conversion utility? Failing that, does anyone have a WordPerfect
: 5.x-to-RTF conversion utility? I need one that works on a command line.
: Yes, Frame does import WordPerfect and RTF files, but not as a batch
: process. I need to convert roughly 50 MBs of documentation from
: WordPerfect to Frame.
Can't you do it as a batch process with "fmbatch"? That utility was
once bundled with FrameMaker...
--
Will Fischer wfischer@indiana.edu
Department of Biology Voice: 812-855-2549
Indiana University Voice2: 812-333-2433
Bloomington, Indiana 47405 USA FAX: 812-333-7922
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer is wierd
Date: 9 Jun 1994 17:08:44 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <2t7ias$qim@news1.digex.net>
Coming from the Winsock world as I do, I must say that NewsGrazer is
wacked. I mean, is there ANY reason it has to reload all the newsgroup
names each time it runs? Maybe with a direct connect it's tolerable, but
not at SLIP speeds... which must explain why Trumpet Newsreader for
Winsock only loads the names ONCE, and on subsequent tries to SUBSCRIBE it
looks for NEW groups ONLY. This means startup time is say, 5 seconds,
instead of fifteen minutes.
Also, 9/10ths of the time I click "catch up" the thing just quits. I can
highlight every article and mark read, but that's a pain.
Anyone had better experiences with SLIP and NewsGrazer or another news
reader, or do I have to hunker down and work on writing my own. Well,
gotta learn Objective-C one of these days, right?
Chris
(Now accepting NeXT Mail thanks to usenetter JUST LIKE YOU)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Is Standard Unix [cut] and [paste] available on NeXT ?
Message-ID: <Cr4yzw.An@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <2t51jj$5ea@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 15:28:43 GMT
In article <2t51jj$5ea@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
writes:
> In article <Cr2vzG.I7t@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong
> Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) writes:
> > Are the cut and paste commands, from standard Unix, available on NeXT ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Mr.WONG Sai Kee
> > Graduate Student
> > (NeXTMail Welcome)
> "cut" is standard SYS V unix. NeXT is standard BSD unix.
> The BSD version of "cut" is "colrm". BSD doesn't have
> "paste", but there are public domain alternatives
> (See, for example, "Unix Power Tools" by Peek et al.)
Watch out!
There already is paste on the NeXT - it supports the pasteboard. Don't get it messed up!
Good luck, Juergen
---
Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new version of soap powder,
== when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Re: Is Standard Unix [cut] and [paste] available on NeXT ?
Message-ID: <Cr58Gt.3tM@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
References: <2t51jj$5ea@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 18:53:16 GMT
In article <2t51jj$5ea@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov
(Robert F. Cahalan) writes:
|In article <Cr2vzG.I7t@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong
|Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) writes:
|> Are the cut and paste commands, from standard Unix, available on NeXT ?
|>
|"cut" is standard SYS V unix. NeXT is standard BSD unix.
|The BSD version of "cut" is "colrm". BSD doesn't have
|"paste", but there are public domain alternatives
|(See, for example, "Unix Power Tools" by Peek et al.)
Archie on 'cut' gives a whole bunch of sites which carry a BSD 4.3 (I think)
version of cut which is much more useful than colrm (allows delimiters,
e.g.). These use a version of make and makefiles which do no work on the
NeXT. Has anyone compiled this cut?
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: macrae@pandora.geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae)
Subject: Re: Is Standard Unix [cut] and [paste] available on NeXT ?
Message-ID: <Jun9.224419.51585@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 22:44:19 GMT
References: <Cr4yzw.An@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada
In article <Cr4yzw.An@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen
Sell) writes:
> In article <2t51jj$5ea@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>
cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
> writes:
> > In article <Cr2vzG.I7t@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk
(Wong
> > Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) writes:
> > > Are the cut and paste commands, from standard Unix, available on
NeXT ?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Mr.WONG Sai Kee
> > > Graduate Student
> > > (NeXTMail Welcome)
> > "cut" is standard SYS V unix. NeXT is standard BSD unix.
> > The BSD version of "cut" is "colrm". BSD doesn't have
> > "paste", but there are public domain alternatives
> > (See, for example, "Unix Power Tools" by Peek et al.)
>
> Watch out!
> There already is paste on the NeXT - it supports the pasteboard. Don't
> get it messed up! Good luck, Juergen
I aliased NeXT's "paste" (which is a completely different beast)
to "pasteb", and installed the GNU versions of "cut" and "paste". They
work fine.
-Andrew
macrae@pandora.geo.ucalgary.ca
or: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca
From: gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Gianfranco Pocecai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de drops commercial support
Date: 10 Jun 1994 11:45:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t9jp7$ihu@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
References: <2t8vm3$2g8@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
In article <2t8vm3$2g8@nyx10.cs.du.edu> lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael
McCulloch) writes:
> The excellent Munich ftp site has dropped support of commercial
> apps. I don't mean to be an alarmist, but given the situation,
> the Internet was about the last site a NEXTSTEP developer can
> advertise his/her wares. No magazine, now no archive support.
>
> How about a world-wide fund drive to get ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
> back in the game? 2 GB disks are less than $2K nowdays...
Michael!
Have a look at our ftp site, the Italian NEXTSTEP User Group ftp site, located
in Milano, Italy. It is updated every day mirroring other US ftp sites. If you
like it, and if other developers like it, well upload your files there,
(/pub/submissions). The site is cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it.
If there is any comment on the site structure or if you want something
particular, send me a message, I'll try to help.
Bye
Gianfranco
--
Gianfranco Pocecai
President of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group
University of Milano - Computer Science Department
Via Comelico, 39/41
20135 Milano - Italy
E-mail : gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
From: chris@hi5.ikp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (Christoph M Zoeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X-question
Date: 10 Jun 1994 12:01:01 GMT
Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t9klt$md6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
Hi!
After checking some readme's for the usual X-packages I am still not quite
clear on what I need to have my NeXT (3.2 on Intel) display the windows of
an X-app running on a remote host. I would think this makes my machine a
client? What software do I need? I know pretty little about X, so if this
sounds dump, feel free to educate me...
Any help/clarification would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Chris
Chris Zoeller
Institute for Nuclear Physics
TH Darmstadt, FRG
chris@hi5.ikp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de drops commercial support
Date: 10 Jun 1994 12:04:48 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t9kt0$reb@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2t9jp7$ihu@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
In article <2t9jp7$ihu@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
(Gianfranco Pocecai) writes:
> Michael!
> Have a look at our ftp site, the Italian NEXTSTEP User Group ftp site,
located
> in Milano, Italy. It is updated every day mirroring other US ftp sites. If
you
> like it, and if other developers like it, well upload your files there,
> (/pub/submissions). The site is cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it.
> If there is any comment on the site structure or if you want something
> particular, send me a message, I'll try to help.
>
Gianfranco,
Where is the site?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Interested in getting S-PLUS to NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <Cr5IJv.5xF@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <2t7bpf$bqn@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 22:31:04 GMT
In article <2t7bpf$bqn@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark
Powell) writes:
>>In article <2t531q$mq@scunix2.harvard.edu> writes:
>>>
>>> *
>>> * Interested in getting S-PLUS ported to NEXTSTEP?
>>> *
>>>
>>Lots of good stuff about S-PLUS deleted.
>>
>>C'mon all you scientific and business/sociology/economics/financial
>>statistician/modeler types! Let these people at StatSci
>>Tom Conlon: tom@statsci.com (Product Manager)
>>Thomas Christie: thomas@statsci.com (Sales)
>>
>>know you want a good, well documented data analysis tool in a native
>>NEXTSTEP port at a reasonable price (e.g. PC$=Pentium$=HP$=Sun$) !!!
>>
I did!
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CIM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Sybase and ORACLE update
Message-ID: <Cr5IMw.5zI@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <2t7avo$m8i@digdug.pencom.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 22:32:53 GMT
In article <2t7avo$m8i@digdug.pencom.com> msm@safesurfer.pencom.com (Mark S
Mertel) writes:
>>In article <2t4it2$gj9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
>>stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes:
>>>
>>> I just called both SyBase and ORACLE....
>>>
>>> SyBase sez: (and the lamer I talked to was rude and uninterested
>>> with even talking to me for a second) "we are not going to support
>>NeXTSTEP"
>>>
>>> ORACLE sez: (and the lady who I talked to was really nice)
>>> "we plan on releasing a product soon, but it's not ready yet"
>>>
>>> so, my question still stands hey, maybe I am clueless):
>>> How do I set up a stand-alone system to use DBkit... I'm sorry, but I am
>>> under the understanding that I need a server to access, that DBkit will
>>not
>>> run alone....
>>--
>>Pity about sybase, considering that there is a version of SQL Server
>>already running on NS black which has become kind of a defacto
>>non-supported standard for DBKit applications running in a homogenous Next
>>environment. We use it a lot.
>>
>>We ran in to that same problem recently. Here's the low down:
>>
>>1. Borland's Interbase, which is currently for sale, and the licensing is
>>expensive. you have to license each noe - client and server. With other
>>adaptor supported DBMS's this is not necessary.
>>
>>2. QuickBase is another alternative; low cost, FAT, and ready to roll, but
>>large customers tend to shy away from non-name recognizable DBMS's. HP
>>support is also in the offing.
>>
>>3. There's also Gupta's SQL engine. This one is an unknown to me.
>>
>>That's it. I'd say that Oracle is making a smart move and might be able
>>to capture a potentially large market by offering their server on NS.
>>--
Don't forget informix. I think they are going to support NSFIP. Don't know
about the rest.
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CIM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: dfleskes@godiva.nwest.mccaw.com (David Fleskes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: public ftp site for Next public domain software?
Date: 8 Jun 1994 22:51:22 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <2t5i1a$q92@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Can someone point me to a public ftp site for miscellaneous software?
Specifically, I'm looking for tcsh and some sort system exerciser package.
Thanks in advance
-David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Interested in getting S-PLUS to NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <mohan.771046579@husc4.harvard.edu>
From: mohan@husc4.harvard.edu (Mohan Penubarti)
Date: 8 Jun 94 03:36:19 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Keywords: nextstep s-plus s
*
* Interested in getting S-PLUS ported to NEXTSTEP?
*
S-PLUS is a powerful object oriented statistical analysis software from
Statistical Sciences in Seattle, Washington. It is a binary version of
the S language from AT&T Bell Labs. It is widely recognized by
statisticians to be among the best data analysis software available.
An earlier version of S-PLUS (Version 3.0) was ported to NEXTSTEP for
NeXT machines, apparently at the request of Swiss Bank. StatSci has
no plans to port the new version (3.2 and soon 4.0) to NEXTSTEP on
any platform. BUT, I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY STATSCI THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER
A MAB PORT TO NEXTSTEP IF THEY GET ENOUGH INTEREST FROM THE NEXTSTEP
COMMUNITY.
From previous posts to the net and talking to other NEXTSTEP users who use
S-PLUS, I know that there is more than sufficient interest in S-PLUS.
If you are interested in S-PLUS, please send email expressing your
interest to the following people at StatSci:
Tom Conlon: tom@statsci.com (Product Manager)
Thomas Christie: thomas@statsci.com (Sales)
I agreed to call StatSci in two weeks time to follow-up. If it is OK
with you, please send me a note indicating that you sent email to StatSci
so that we can gauge the interest in S-PLUS from NeXT users. I will post
follow-ups to this group informing you of StatSci's decision and (hopefully)
the status of the port.
Posts to the net have often lamented the lack of major software in
certain areas on NEXTSTEP. Here is a chance to get arguably the best data
analysis system to NEXTSTEP. I certainly hope that we will show that
there is more than sufficient interest in the NeXT community to attract
StatSci to port S-PLUS. Please send email to StatSci right away. Thanks!
Mohan Penubarti
<mohan@husc.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: HP Beta
Message-ID: <Cr3y2B.Cv8@news.otago.ac.nz>
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
Organization: University of Otago
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 02:10:59 GMT
Hi there everyone,
This is directed at those of you who have beta copies of
NEXTSTEP/PA-RISC
Somehow we got left off the delivery list for the beta CD, and NeXT
are now finding it very hard to find a CD for us. They are trying,
but all is not hopeful. I was wondering if any of you had 2+ copies
of it, and could send one to me. If you want confirmation of the
bona-fide status of this request for non-disclosure purposes, contact
Rick_Collison@NeXT.COM.
We really do need this, and as we were counting on getting it, we are
having problems.
Any help would be much appreciated!
--
Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347
Computer Science Department, | Fax +64-3-479-8529
University of Otago, |
Dunedin, | alastair@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz
New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
From: rwillard@aol.com (Rwillard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: upgrading to 3.2 on black
Date: 8 Jun 1994 22:30:03 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <2t5urb$1gm@search01.news.aol.com>
Has anyone upgraded a NeXt station color to version 3.2 using a mac
CDROM? I have no difficulty reading CDroms when the system has been
booted but cannot get it to recognize the 3.2 CDrom using the upgrade
floppy on the internal floppy drive as the boot drive.
Rod Willard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gs@spl1.spl.loral.com (Greg Simon)
Subject: Re: MIDI player?
Message-ID: <1994Jun9.010957.8343@ssd.loral.com>
Keywords: MIDI next
Sender: news@ssd.loral.com
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Lab
References: <bagtes.771101132@sfu.ca>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 01:09:57 GMT
In article <bagtes.771101132@sfu.ca>, bagtes@malibu.sfu.ca (Rody Bagtes) writes:
|> Does anyone know of a program that can play general-midi files on the
|> Next (i.e. NextStations). I know it's got that 56001 DPS, so I'd like to
|> find out how it sounds compared to my Gravis Ultrasound.
Um--if you're talking about *.mid files (the standard midi file format) you
can't "play" it on a DSP, because standard midi files only contain midi events,
i.e., note on, note off, pedal down, program change, etc.
Isn't General MIDI just a method of assigning instruments to defined numbers?
Please, follow up if this isn't the case.
Greg Simon gs@softeng.ssd.loral.com
Space Systems/LORAL <my post, my opinions>
-----------------------------------------------------
"Keyboard locked. Press F1 to continue" -- MSDOS 6.2
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quickguide to NEXTSTEP Information available on the Internet
Date: 9 Jun 1994 01:07:57 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2t683d$2h4@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://www.stepwise.com/
or (if you nameserver is out of date)
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will
be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 9 Jun 94 11:44:14
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Jun9114414@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
References: <2soghk$dhi@hearst.cac.psu.edu> <2t0mvk$25f@network.ucsd.edu>
<2t2a4m$dq4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In-reply-to: emt@leland.Stanford.EDU's message of 7 Jun 1994 17:18:14 GMT
I have been using nxyplot quite a bit for simple 2D plots. It's
freeware. It's not sophisticated, but it's real simple to use. Self
explanatory. It is for plotting data on the fly and easily
adjusting the range the legends and the fonts.
I like it and also use it for publications.
Actually, Iam quite impressed by the variety of recommended
plotting apps. very happy about it. I have to check the other
ones out again.
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
... posting from kyoto....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung)
Subject: DOS Partitions and NSI/SoftPC
Message-ID: <vfr750Cr47ot.G9p@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 05:38:53 GMT
From the results of my previous query, it looks like NSI will see the
first DOS partition it happens to stumble upon, but that there might
be problems with >32Mb partitions.
So. Can SoftPC see a larger DOS partition?
Hell, is SoftPC usable?
For the DOS/Windows stuff I have to do, I wouldn't mind having SoftPC
front end most of if. However I know that there will be SOME things
that will only work with a native DOS boot, but I don't want to
duplicate the files (NS side and DOS side) if I can help it.
Anyway, any more thoughts are appreciated.
--
Will Hartung - Hermosa Beach, Lower Left Coast. vfr750@netcom.com
1990 VFR750 - VFR=Very Red "Ho, HaHa, Dodge, Parry, Spin, HA! THRUST!"
1993 Explorer - Cage? Hell, it's a prison. -D. Duck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Interested in getting S-PLUS to NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <2t531q$mq@scunix2.harvard.edu>
From: mohan@husc4.harvard.edu (Mohan Penubarti)
Date: 8 Jun 1994 18:35:38 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA
*
* Interested in getting S-PLUS ported to NEXTSTEP?
*
S-PLUS is a powerful object oriented statistical analysis software from
Statistical Sciences in Seattle, Washington. It is a binary version of
the S language from AT&T Bell Labs. It is widely recognized by
statisticians to be among the best data analysis software available.
An earlier version of S-PLUS (Version 3.0) was ported to NEXTSTEP for
NeXT machines, apparently at the request of Swiss Bank. StatSci has
no plans to port the new version (3.2 and soon 4.0) to NEXTSTEP on
any platform. BUT, I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY STATSCI THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER
A MAB PORT TO NEXTSTEP IF THEY GET ENOUGH INTEREST FROM THE NEXTSTEP
COMMUNITY.
From previous posts to the net and talking to other NEXTSTEP users who use
S-PLUS, I know that there is more than sufficient interest in S-PLUS.
If you are interested in S-PLUS, please send email expressing your
interest to the following people at StatSci:
Tom Conlon: tom@statsci.com (Product Manager)
Thomas Christie: thomas@statsci.com (Sales)
I agreed to call StatSci in two weeks time to follow-up. If it is OK
with you, please send me a note indicating that you sent email to StatSci
so that we can gauge the interest in S-PLUS from NeXT users. I will post
follow-ups to this group informing you of StatSci's decision and (hopefully)
the status of the port.
Posts to the net have often lamented the lack of major software in
certain areas on NEXTSTEP. Here is a chance to get arguably the best data
analysis system to NEXTSTEP. I certainly hope that we will show that
there is more than sufficient interest in the NeXT community to attract
StatSci to port S-PLUS. Please send email to StatSci right away. Thanks!
Mohan Penubarti
<mohan@husc.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Sybase/SQL User Report Software
Message-ID: <1994Jun8.140059.257@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:00:59 GMT
What reccomendations would anyone have to software that is easier for a
user to build queries into Sybase? I would love to fing something that is
a QBE type of app. Also, if you know of any good report writers for
developers, let me know.
Thanks
Wes
--
Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation)
8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: Re: MIDI player?
Message-ID: <1994Jun9.012759.1441@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado
References: <bagtes.771101132@sfu.ca>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 01:27:59 GMT
Rody Bagtes writes
> looking for non-commercial software, so a good internet site for
the NeXT ...
If you can WWW try:
http://digifix.digifix.com/index.html
I have found this an excellent way to locate software ... there are
things I never heard of out there. Scott Anguish and the people at
WhiteLight are doing a good job starting this going.
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Is NeXTMail the best mail s/w on NeXT ?
Message-ID: <Cr4rKL.5v3@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 12:48:21 GMT
Is the Mail.app (so called ``NeXT Electronic Mail Reader'' from Info panel)
the best mail software available on NeXT ?
I know that it is totally NeXTware. Yet in terms of human-factors,
efficiency, effectiveness; is there any better freeware/PD mail reader
for the NeXT ?
Thanks for your pointers.
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
(NeXTMail Welcome)
From: binger@hanover.edu (David Binger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Date: 9 Jun 1994 13:39:10 GMT
Organization: Hanover College
Message-ID: <2t761u$moj@news.hanover.edu>
This just started since I moved my machine
home from the office. Does anyone know
how I can fix it?
I'm using NS3.2, NeXTStation, and SLIP.
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Date: 9 Jun 1994 14:56:50 GMT
Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t7ajj$dg3@inxs.concert.net>
References: <2t761u$moj@news.hanover.edu>
In article <2t761u$moj@news.hanover.edu> binger@hanover.edu (David Binger)
writes:
> This just started since I moved my machine
> home from the office. Does anyone know
> how I can fix it?
>
> I'm using NS3.2, NeXTStation, and SLIP.
We have the same problem...usually we have the posting's title and author
displayed...if NewsGrazer has finished acquiring all postings and related
information, NewsGrazer will crash :-(
Dave
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP / PPP for NeXTSTEP
Date: 9 Jun 1994 13:02:39 GMT
Organization: University of York, Computing Service, UK
Message-ID: <2t73tf$db8@castle.york.ac.uk>
Does anyone out there have source for either SLIP or PPP on NS3.2
I want to run this is white hardware, but can only find binaries for
black hardware. Any pointers would be appreciated.
(the source for ppp doesn't want to compile on black or white hardware and
I don't really have the time to try and figure out how to make it work
with 3.X unfotunately)
-pete.
From: msm@safesurfer.pencom.com (Mark S Mertel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.sybase,comp.databases.oracle
Subject: Re: Sybase and ORACLE update
Date: 9 Jun 1994 15:03:20 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <2t7avo$m8i@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <2t4it2$gj9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In article <2t4it2$gj9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes:
>
> I just called both SyBase and ORACLE....
>
> SyBase sez: (and the lamer I talked to was rude and uninterested
> with even talking to me for a second) "we are not going to support
NeXTSTEP"
>
> ORACLE sez: (and the lady who I talked to was really nice)
> "we plan on releasing a product soon, but it's not ready yet"
>
> so, my question still stands hey, maybe I am clueless):
> How do I set up a stand-alone system to use DBkit... I'm sorry, but I am
> under the understanding that I need a server to access, that DBkit will
not
> run alone....
--
Pity about sybase, considering that there is a version of SQL Server
already running on NS black which has become kind of a defacto
non-supported standard for DBKit applications running in a homogenous Next
environment. We use it a lot.
We ran in to that same problem recently. Here's the low down:
1. Borland's Interbase, which is currently for sale, and the licensing is
expensive. you have to license each noe - client and server. With other
adaptor supported DBMS's this is not necessary.
2. QuickBase is another alternative; low cost, FAT, and ready to roll, but
large customers tend to shy away from non-name recognizable DBMS's. HP
support is also in the offing.
3. There's also Gupta's SQL engine. This one is an unknown to me.
That's it. I'd say that Oracle is making a smart move and might be able
to capture a potentially large market by offering their server on NS.
--
Mark Mertel Email: msm@pencom.com
Pencom Software Phone: (512) 343-6666
9050 Capital of Texas Hwy. N. FAX: (512) 343-9650
Austin, TX 78759
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Interested in getting S-PLUS to NEXTSTEP?
Date: 9 Jun 1994 15:17:03 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <2t7bpf$bqn@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <2t531q$mq@scunix2.harvard.edu>
In article <2t531q$mq@scunix2.harvard.edu> writes:
>
> *
> * Interested in getting S-PLUS ported to NEXTSTEP?
> *
>
Lots of good stuff about S-PLUS deleted.
C'mon all you scientific and business/sociology/economics/financial
statistician/modeler types! Let these people at StatSci
Tom Conlon: tom@statsci.com (Product Manager)
Thomas Christie: thomas@statsci.com (Sales)
know you want a good, well documented data analysis tool in a native
NEXTSTEP port at a reasonable price (e.g. PC$=Pentium$=HP$=Sun$) !!!
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTMail contents disappearing
Date: 9 Jun 1994 11:39:27 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices)
Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t7d3f$7cc@shiva.UU.NET>
When I send NeXTMail out over my PPP link to other NeXT users, the contents of
the mail somehow get stripped away, leaving just a blank NeXTMail letter. By this,
I mean...
I will send out some NeXTMail to a UUCP friend, it goes out over SMTP to my
mail exchanger, from there, I presume it goes to his UUCP exchanger and then when
he gets it, in the mail list the NeXTMail triangle is there, but the body of
the letter blank! Now, when I send mail to myself, it seems to work. Example, I
have a POP mail account, so I send NeXTMail via my POP address (so it doesn't
stay local). It goes out SMTP, I then retreive it with POP and it looks just
fine.
Inbound NeXTMail looks fine, it just strips outbound mail.
Also, I can't seem to get outbound mail to go to anyplace but my POP server.
Mail seems to bypass the Primary relays that I have set in my sendmail.cf
(relay1.uu.net and relay2.uu.nmet) and go right to my POP server and then along
its way. I think that might be part of the problem. I was using the PopOver
app to retrieve mail.
Background info, I'm running NS3.2 on a black turbo slab.
Can MY mailer be removing the contents?
------
Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net
Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
http://stravinsky.anderson-lab.american.edu:3001
"The Post Office is neither a federal or local government agency." - Ralph
"Right up till you steal the mail." - Alby
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de drops commercial support
Date: 10 Jun 1994 00:02:43 -0600
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation
Message-ID: <2t8vm3$2g8@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
The excellent Munich ftp site has dropped support of commercial
apps. I don't mean to be an alarmist, but given the situation,
the Internet was about the last site a NEXTSTEP developer can
advertise his/her wares. No magazine, now no archive support.
How about a world-wide fund drive to get ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
back in the game? 2 GB disks are less than $2K nowdays...
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
From: chris@hi5.ikp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (Christoph M Zoeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: X-server for Intel hardware
Date: 13 Jun 1994 13:38:09 GMT
Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2thng1$1010@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
Hi!
I need a (free) X11 server to run under 3.2 on Intel. MouseX seems to be
black hardware only, and somehow I have had a lot of problems accessing
the US archive sites lately (I'm located in Germany). So, before I spent a
lot more time trying to find what I am looking for, I am hoping for some
recommendations. Any help appreciated!
Thanks,
Chris
=============
Chris Zoeller
Institute for Nuclear Physics
TH Darmstadt, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Mike
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer support (was: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup")
Message-ID: <CrC8G4.LA9@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Insignia Solutions Ltd
References: <jbn.771447077@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:36:04 GMT
J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes
> If the app
> was compiled to meet Intel user requests
I would think that extremely unlikely. Remember that NeXT have an
internet link themselves, so I think it's far more likely that the
development engineers re-compiled it so that they could use it on the
systems they were working on. The only question then was whether to
put the thing on an ftp server so other people could use it.
I would imagine that the same sort of thing could happen on HP.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Re: WWW access?
Message-ID: <CrC90B.4xB@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
References: <neuss.771249876@budlight>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:48:10 GMT
In article <neuss.771249876@budlight> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
writes:
|heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) writes:
|
|>In OmniWeb, right uner the HTTP browser is a text-field
|>labled "URL:" (NOT the "Highlighted URL:" at bottom). I enter
|>the ULR information here and press return. If available, this gets
|>me the Web page.
|Far easier.. there's a service entry. You can just slect the string
|in whatever App you are in and use Services->open Url to fire
|up OmniWeb with that specific URL.
I don't get a Services->open URL item showing up. I'm running NS 3.0 on
black. Is there something else I need to install? I have OmniWeb and
OmniImage in ~/Apps. I don't see anything like a service bundle inside
either app.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl>
From: Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <9406131319.AA02934@next.elka.pg.gda.pl>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 15:16:59 +0200
Subject: support
I have two questions bothering me:
1. Has the NeXTStep a video card support working on PCI bus?
2. Has the NeXTStep a SCSI controller support working on PCI bus already?
Any information will be appreciated.
Stanislaw Stefanowski staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Re: WWW access?
Message-ID: <CrE32n.n9@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
References: <CrC90B.4xB@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 13:35:10 GMT
In article <CrC90B.4xB@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> I wrote:
|In article <neuss.771249876@budlight> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
|writes:
||heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) writes:
||
||>In OmniWeb, right uner the HTTP browser is a text-field
||>labled "URL:" (NOT the "Highlighted URL:" at bottom). I enter
||>the ULR information here and press return. If available, this gets
||>me the Web page.
||Far easier.. there's a service entry. You can just slect the string
||in whatever App you are in and use Services->open Url to fire
||up OmniWeb with that specific URL.
|
|I don't get a Services->open URL item showing up. I'm running NS 3.0 on
|black. Is there something else I need to install? I have OmniWeb and
|OmniImage in ~/Apps. I don't see anything like a service bundle inside
|either app.
Searching NeXTAnswers for 'services' gave me
1534_release_3.0_services_bug.rtf, which provided the solution for several
similar problems having to do with the failure of NS 3.0 to register services
properly from a MAB app.
To fix ( quote):
The workaround is to place a file or directory with a ".service" extension in
either ~/Library/Services or /LocalLibrary/Services. A file with a
".service" extension must be a valid service description file. A ".service"
directory must contain a valid service description file named "services"
(e.g., the service description file would be named something like
~/Library/Services/myOwn.service or
/LocalLibrary/Services/ALocalOne.service/services). Note that the extension
".service" does not end in an "s", but the file named services does. Also,
the Workspace Manager only registers the services in these directories when
the user logs in, it doesn't automatically update the service cache during a
working session.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: jcl@yonext.apl.washington.edu (James C. Luby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: kermit
Date: 14 Jun 1994 13:53:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2tkcoa$o4d@news.u.washington.edu>
Keywords: kermit
To: The many people who answered my request for getting
a copy of kermit for NeXT black hardware.
From: Jim Luby
Thank you!
--
James C. Luby
Applied Physics Laboratory
University of Washington
Seattle, Wa. 98105
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Frame announces FrameMaker 3.2 for NEXTSTEP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 17 Jun 1994 23:32:52 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2ttbr4$lhi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact:
Frame Technology
Kate Lynch
(408) 954-3964
Copithorne & Bellows
Kristin Vais
(408) 988-2100
FRAME TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION ANNOUNCES FRAMEMAKER 3 ON NEXTSTEP FOR
INTEL
Reseller agreement with Lighthouse Design announced
SAN FRANCISCO, June 21, 1994 -- Frame Technology Corporation today
announced plans to introduce FrameMaker 3.2 on NEXTSTEP for Intel.
FrameMaker, an award-winning writing, design and publishing package,
was ported to NeXT workstations in 1989. This new version is being
developed to meet customer demand for FrameMaker on the NEXTSTEP
platform, and is based on FrameMaker 3 for the NeXT MC 68000
workstation.
"We're pleased that Frame has decided to continue supporting
NEXTSTEP," said Steven P. Jobs, chairman and CEO of NeXT Computer,
Inc. "We will work closely with Frame and our mutual customers to
ensure that FrameMaker integrates seamlessly with the NEXTSTEP
environment."
"We see the decision to support the NEXTSTEP marketplace as strategic
for the company," said William R. Pieser, vice president of marketing
for Frame Technology. "The combination of customer interest and
NeXT's new technology makes NEXTSTEP an ideal platform for
FrameMaker."
"We already have significant interest in this port from our federal
government customers," said Bob Reddick, director of Frame's federal
group. "We're happy that we'll be able to deliver FrameMaker to them
on the NEXTSTEP platform."
FrameMaker Product Features
FrameMaker combines word processing, page layout, graphics, equations
editing, conditional text, "intelligent" cell-based tables and tools
for creating a wide range of documents, from lengthy technical
manuals to reports, newsletters, and presentations.
Plans for advanced features in FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP include
integration with NEXTSTEP's Digital Librarian, and the Webster's
Dictionary and Thesaurus. FrameMaker software offers integrated,
multifile book-building facilities, including automatic table of
contents and index generation; font, spelling, and hyphenation
support for 13 languages; and sophisticated cross-reference and
indexing tools.
New Reseller Relationship
In adjunct news, Frame Technology announced the appointment of
Lighthouse Design, Ltd. of San Mateo, CA, as an intended strategic
reseller of FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP. Under the current agreement,
Lighthouse Design will be authorized to directly sell a FrameMaker
for NEXTSTEP product. Frame Technology is demonstrating a pre-release
version of the software in Lighthouse Design's booth at the NEXTSTEP
EXPO tradeshow, running this week at Moscone Center in San Francisco.
NeXT Computer, Inc.
NeXT develops and markets the award-winning NEXTSTEP object-oriented
software for industry-standard computer architectures. Customers use
NEXTSTEP's advanced object environment to rapidly develop and deploy
custom, enterprise-wide, client/server applications. NeXT is
headquartered in Redwood City, California, and has offices in North
America, London, Paris, Munich and Tokyo.
Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
Lighthouse Design is dedicated to delivering high quality,
well-integrated productivity solutions to the enterprise desktop.
Lighthouse Design is located at 2929 Campus Drive, San Mateo, CA
94403.
Frame Technology Corporation (NASDAQ: FRAM) provides award-winning
authoring and publishing software for writing, design, and
print/electronic distribution of critical documents. Frame Technology
is located at 1010 Rincon Circle, San Jose, California 95131.
-30-
From: tudhope@hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: STANDALONE TRANSSYS SLIP is POSSIBLE
Date: 17 Jun 1994 00:01:40 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tqp54$i8h@relay.tor.hookup.net>
References: <1994Jun13.102224.24470@venice.sedd.trw.com>
In article <1994Jun13.102224.24470@venice.sedd.trw.com> blanford@gemstone.com
(Ron Blanford) writes:
> In article <damonc.20.2DFB6990@hookup.net> damonc@hookup.net (Damon F.
> Cooper) writes:
> > Is there ANYONE out there that is running a STANDALONE NS box that
> > is successfully running TransSys PNI SLIP?? I posed a similar question
> > last week, and I got 31 (THIRTY ONE!!)responses from people looking for
> > help as well...
> >
> > Can anyone help? (Please!)
> >
> > Given a "fresh", standalone machine, install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on it,
> > what are the steps to follow? Anybody have this working that could
> > post/upload the config files/etc?
> >
> > THANK-YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE!!
> >
> > Damon Cooper
> > damonc@hookup.net
>
> Here are my configuration scripts that work. I'm no networking guru, but
> this works well enough for my satisfaction. Your mileage may vary.
>
> I am running NS 3.2 on a standalone system, using TransSys PNI 1.9 quite
> successfully. I commented out the stuff added by the installation script
> to rc.local and bring the connection up and down manually by running the
> following scripts as root.
>
> ====== begin bin/slipup ======
> #!/bin/sh
> #slipup - bring up the slip connection
> /etc/pni/pnid -C -c -n pni0 -f /etc/pni/config/remote.SLIP &
> ====== end slipup ======
>
> ====== begin bin/slipdown ======
> #!/bin/sh
> #slipdown - bring down the slip connection
> pnistat -c down pni0
> ifconfig pni0 down
> ====== end slipdown ======
>
> The config file remote.SLIP looks like this (names and addresses changed
> to protect the innocent). The remote machine is a black NeXT that runs
> TransSys dialup-ip as the login shell to the slip account. I've also used
> it successfully with a Xyplex terminal server. Both have statically
> assigned ip addresses, which makes things much simpler.
>
*snip!*
>
> My modem is a Practical Peripherals which didn't have a dial-ppi.tcl modem
> script to match, but I fudged it up from the Zyxel, basically changing
> only the initialization parameters.
>
> Works like a dream. Thanks, Louis.
>
> -- Ron
I've also been successful in getting PNI 1.9 going on NS(FIP)3.2 using the
exact same methods described above. One thing I had to do which hasn't been
mentioned to date (not even in the PNI documentation) is to add the
"resolv.conf" file to my /etc directory. Without it, I got a proper SLIP
connection, but no hosts were recognised. I don't know if it's particular to
my setup, but it did get me going. My "resolv.conf" file goes a little
something like this:
====== begin /etc/resolv.conf ======
# Domain name resolver configuration file
#
# tor.hookup.net
nameserver 165.154.1.1
====== end /etc/resolv.conf ======
You'd obviously have to add your own flavour of nameserver, but it might just
be the missing piece of the puzzle.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Message-ID: <1994Jun17.002735.17318@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <1994Jun16.195339.11709@news.media.mit.edu> <2tqdlrINNnt4@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 00:27:35 GMT
In article <2tqdlrINNnt4@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu writes:
>>Michael B. Johnson writes
>>> In article <2tpush$t1v@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu writes:
>>> >>I would. I use C for everything.
>>> Us too. I think we have about 30 HP workstations at the Media Lab, and
>>
>>Well, in general, I find that CS-oriented "researchers" do tend
>>to use C/C++ for lots. When you move over into a field such as
>>multi-dimensional integration, Fourier analysis, 3d wavelet transforms,
>>etc,etc. there just isn't any canned C stuff out there. In addition
>>Fortran makes complex vars easy (heck NS 3.0 didn't even have libg++)
>>and C is WAY TOO forgiving (i.e. you get the *wrong* number but never know
>>and your solid rocket motor blows up).
>>
>>Just my HO...
>>
Agreed, but as someone who worked at Thinking Machines for 4 years and
NCSA for 2, I'm happy to see many computational scientists using higher
level tools like MatLab or Mathematica, and leave Fortran in the dust.
Unless the computational scientist is also a hacker, I usually try to
convince them to eschew C or C++ completely, and if they need to use
Fortran, use it from a reasonably supportive environment like AVS or
Explorer, neither of which runs on NS, even with an X package...
Anyway, this has strayed far afield. Sorry.
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ewsdevod!verket (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: Image thumbnailer reviews?
Message-ID: <CrIK2q.4qE@trwlasd.com>
Sender: verket@trwlasd.com (Paul Verket)
Organization: TRW
References: <jbn.771697232@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 23:32:49 GMT
In article <jbn.771697232@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> >*** GEMSTONE SYSTEMS ANNOUNCES IMAGE CURATOR 1.0 ***
> >Cost: $125 per user.
>
> I just saw an article about a shareware Windows thumbnailer that cost
> $5 in the May '94 Computer Shopper (pages 610-611). I'd consider
> buying Image Curator, but $125 is unreasonable, in my opinion.
>
> Are there any NS image thumbnailers that are more reasonably priced
> (perhaps somewhere around $50), shareware, PD or commercial? Any
> reviews of them?
--- Warning, I'm very biased being both a beta tester AND a friend of the
author ---
I've used a lot of the PD/Shareware and at least two of the payware
offerings available on the NeXT and Image Curator blows them all away.
Check out the demo on cs.orst.edu.
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What exactly is wrong with NS3.0 AppleTalk ?
Date: 17 Jun 1994 02:02:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tr084$6a1@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Jun16.194354.18946@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Jun16.194354.18946@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
emstech@music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician) writes:
>
> I want to mount our Macs on the NeXT and I have notice that there is a
> nice utility that came with NS3.0 (AppleTalk) that should the job.
> Now everybody is telling me that it's not stable and that I should get
the
> newest version from "idt" ... it's $1500usd.
>
> Before I spend all that good money I will like to know what exactly is
> wrong with NeXT3.0 AppleTalk ?
The NeXT 3.0 AppleTalk package hangs frequently. I have quit using it
entirely. Instead of spending the $1500 to get appletalk networking with
the macs in the lab, I just got a second used NeXT.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Date: 17 Jun 1994 02:18:07 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2tr14v$n1k@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Jun16.195339.11709@news.media.mit.edu> <2tqdlrINNnt4@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu (Eric S. Boltz) writes:
>Fortran makes complex vars easy (heck NS 3.0 didn't even have libg++)
>and C is WAY TOO forgiving (i.e. you get the *wrong* number but never know
>and your solid rocket motor blows up).
Ouch! Sounds like a Major Combustible Counter-Assembly problem to me!
:-) :-)
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others
"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
From: jmillr@engin.umich.edu (John Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.2 Developer off CD??
Date: 17 Jun 1994 02:43:37 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tr2kpINNf88@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <Mhzre9_00iV6E5rpps@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <Mhzre9_00iV6E5rpps@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 15-Jun-94 3.2 Developer
>off CD?? by sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-te
>> I've got a copy of 3.2/FIP on it's way and I'm curious if there's a way to
>> run the developer tools off the CD. I have the disk space to install it,
>> but it will severely limit my space for other apps.
>
>I'd suggest installing the DeveloperLibs.pkg and the DeveloperTools.pkg,
>and leave the docs on the CD. Trying to develop with things like the
>libraries and the header files on the CD would probably be way too slow.
>
>This may be a reasonable trade-off between speed (as finding documents
>is going to be slower, but that's more tolerable) and space, but your
>mileage may vary.
>
>-Chuck
This is a reasonable solution for a developer, but sometimes a user needs
to compile something, but not often enough to keep it on the hard drive.
I too would like to be able to compile something (e.g. play3401) just from
the Developer CD (which I have). But I've not been able to do this, so
far. The preface to Garfinkle and Mahoney's Nextstep Programming (p. xi)
says that this can be done (on 100MG hard drives for example) in NS 3.0:
"Simply make the /NextDeveloper directory on your hard disk be a symbolic
link to the same directory on the CD-ROM drive containing the Nextstep 3.0
relaease." I tried this, but it didn't work, (at least I couldn't get it
to work!) I'm using NS 3.2 on Turbo hardware. If someone has gotten this
to work, how did you do it? If it's not possible, why isn't it?
From: torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: top module for NS 3.2 wanted
Date: 17 Jun 1994 01:33:08 GMT
Organization: Torsten's Ideenschmiede
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tqugk$dim@eirah.ping.de>
Hello ...
can anybody tell me where to find a top 3.2/3.3 module for NS 3.2.
Thanx in advance.
Bye, Torsten
From: "Wesley C. Smith" <wes@arissoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP or IMAP NeXTMail client software
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 03:15:34 GMT
Organization: Take Three
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <940616221534.3108AAABE.wes@arissoft>
References: <2toa9r$lbq@gold.interlog.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>NeXTMail. I have both POP and IMAP servers running. Are there any POP or
>IMAP clients for the NeXT that will allow him to continue using NeXTMail?
Eloquent is a e-mail/news program that includes IMAP and NeXTmail support in
its list of features. For more info about Eloquent, send an e-mail message to
eloquent_info@arissoft.com.
Wesley C. Smith
wes@arissoft.com MIME, NeXT, and SUN mail accepted
Take Three
P.O. Box 203852 (512) 837-9784
Austin, TX 78720-3852 (512) 837-8102 (fax)
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Date: 12 Jun 1994 23:00:15 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2tg41v$5dc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <jbn.771355102@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <2teo10$pp@balu.ixpoint.de> <jbn.771446886@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>gguelden@ixpoint.de writes:
>>Sorry mate, but I think you haven't understood the concepts of pages ...
>That comment means nothing without justification and explanation. I
>asked a valid question answerable perfectly well by "It now has it",
>"It already has it and you apparently missed it" or "I don't know when
>it will get it".
The concept of Pages, as I heard it about 2 years ago when I saw a
pre-Alpha, is that you create a set of document templates that your
organization will use. These templates are either created by you
and Pages (they will use their high priced expert graphic designers
to help you) or by you with their very expensive template creation
kit. Then, you distribute those templates to all of your people...
the result: all of your memos, reports, brochures, etc. have the
same stylistic features. It comes with some basic templates.
It's really not designed for a onesy-twosy user - it's more for an
enterprise-wide document processing solution.
I haven't even seen it for 2 years, so maybe their strategy has
changed, but I doubt it.
--
David Lemson
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer support (was: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup")
Date: 12 Jun 1994 20:04:44 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940613015825.245AACUF.malc@jeeves>
I don't see the problem here:
there are at least four options for news readers:
1 tin -- freely available;
2 NewsGrazer -- freely available, with bugs, seemingly;
3 OmniWeb -- in alpha... :-) ;
4 Eloquent -- costs, but does Mail and a host of other stuff rather well
too.
Just choose what level of support and functionality you can tolerate or
afford, and get on with it.
Have fun,
mmalc.
## Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it ##
## was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. ##
## He had won the victory over himself. He loved Bill Gates. 1994 ##
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: markh@sunee.uwaterloo.ca (Mark Henry)
Subject: re: STANDALONE TRANSSYS SLIP POSSIBLE?
Message-ID: <CrBAC7.I3E@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 01:19:18 GMT
Damon Cooper writes:
>Is there ANYONE out there that is running a STANDALONE NS box that
>is successfully running TransSys PNI SLIP?? I posed a similar question
>last week, and I got 31 (THIRTY ONE!!)responses from people looking for help
>as well...
>Can anyone help? (Please!)
>Given a "fresh", standalone machine, install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on it,
>what are the steps to follow? Anybody have this working that could
>post/upload the config files/etc?
>THANK-YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE!!
>Damon Cooper
>damonc@hookup.net
Perhaps I can add a data point, and get added to that list of 31...
I was running TransSys PNI successfully under 3.1 on black hardware until
today when I decided to upgrade to NS 3.2 and TransSys PNI 1.9 in
one fell swoop.
I used the same configuration files that had been working fine prior to
my upgrade, and have always found the documentation clear and easy to follow.
So user error is unlikely (famous last words...) in this case.
I don't know why it doesn't work, and the file /usr/adm/pni.log has
zero length (not very informative). Also, no PNI-related output appears on
the console.
It is not clear whether there is an incompatibility between NS 3.2 and
TransSys PNI 1.9, or if it is some other factor that is causing the problem.
Hope this helps...
Mark Henry
markh@uwaterloo.ca
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Date: 13 Jun 94 02:41:05 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.771475265@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <jbn.771355102@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <2teo10$pp@balu.ixpoint.de> <jbn.771446886@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <2tg41v$5dc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>The concept of Pages, as I heard it about 2 years ago when I saw a
>pre-Alpha, is that you create a set of document templates that your
>organization will use. These templates are either created by you
>and Pages (they will use their high priced expert graphic designers
>to help you) or by you with their very expensive template creation
>kit.
Thanks. That's what I thought it was, but in my mind, this still
doesn't preclude automated TOC maintenance or auto-indexing, for
instance. For the way I work, I prefer to start with an automated
index and edit that since at that point a lot of the work has been
done for me.
Also, last I knew, there was no way for a user to create a template,
you had to go to Pages and have them make you one if one of the
bundled templates didn't fit your needs. I asked if this had changed,
and besides David Lemson's response, I saw only one response that
didn't answer any of my questions at all, and none of the people I
know who have Pages knew of any change. So, I'm left with believing
that this has not changed--only Pages can make a template. Well,
considering that I do my work continually revising and sometimes
re-thinking layout as the document is filled in and exacted, I don't
want to have to go to Pages every time I need some change made (and
pay for them to make the changes). I also don't think Pages need be
involved in my document after they've sold me the app (unless I'm
bringing up a bug or asking a question about how things operate). For
these reasons, I'd prefer an approach where the tools to make and edit
the layout come with the application (they need not be literally in
the same app so long as the functionality is there).
For as much money as Pages costs compared to the competition that
allows me this freedom (namely, Frame), I don't think that's a lot to
ask. Oh well, this all might be in vain anyhow.
--
No NeXTmail please
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Date: 13 Jun 1994 00:04:49 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tglt1$phh@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com>
Jayson Adams writes
> In article <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk>, Dave Griffiths writes:
> > Now what were NeXT supposed
> > to do with it? In the interests of a "level playing field", they couldn't
> > release the source or it will have killed off any chance of a commercial
> > newsreader appearing.
>
> NeXT doesn't care about third parties or "level playing fields." Their
> releasing a MAB version has killed off any chance of a commerial app.
>
> > They couldn't drop support altogether because with no alternative
> > available,
>
> Uh, people survived for many months without it, and NGPro was announced and
> scheduled to ship in Q1, '94.
>
Hmmmm... thats not what you said on 29 Jul 1993
note the dates (paragraph marked with !)
From comp.sys.next.announce
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
For more information, contact:
Jayson Adams, CEO
Scott Love, President
Millennium Software Labs
1010 El Camino Real, Suite 300
Menlo Park, CA, 94025
Phone: (415) 321-3720
Fax: (415) 321-3650
Email: info@millennium.com
Millennium Software Labs Announces Newsgrazer Pro(TM) for NEXTSTEP
NEXTSTEP application to allow users to read Usenet and corporate
news groups
MENLO PARK, California, July 28, 1993 - Millennium Software Labs
announced today that it will introduce Newsgrazer Pro, a software
product for browsing articles and message threads from the
numerous Usenet news groups. Usenet news groups have become a
significant source of technology, event, and general interest
information, and are growing in popularity among industry and
business users. Newsgrazer Pro will provide both novice an
expert users with a powerful interface for navigating this vast
information resource.
Jayson Adams, Millennium's CEO, said in an interview today, "We
have received a lot of customer requests that Millennium release
a net news reader for NEXTSTEP. Our expertise in developing
information management applications makes us the ideal company
for creating a commercial-quality product for this category.
Newsgrazer Pro's introduction later this year will provide NEXTSTEP
users with a simple and elegant application for accessing the
Usenet."
"Information processing and management is the most important
application category of this decade, and Millennium is focused
exclusively on providing NEXTSTEP solutions for this category.
Newsgrazer Pro fits perfectly into our award-winning product line,
which includes NoteBook and Engage! Desktop," said Scott Love,
Millennium's President.
! Newsgrazer Pro for NEXTSTEP will have a suggested retail price of
! $199.95. The product will ship during the fourth quarter of 1993
! in multiple architecture binary (MAB) format, capable of running on
! both Motorola- and Intel-based NEXTSTEP computers.
Millennium Software Labs, Inc. is a privately-held start-up founded
by Jayson Adams and Scott Love, former employees of NeXT Computer,
Inc. Millennium develops and markets personal productivity software
for NEXTSTEP-based computer systems. The company's mission is to
develop state-of-the-art applications for information management.
Product design and architecture are based entirely on NEXTSTEP, the
most advanced object-oriented software technology available today.
For more information about this press release, contact Jayson
Adams, CEO, or Scott Love, President. Millennium Software Labs is
located at 1010 El Camino Real, Suite 300, Menlo Park, CA, 94025.
(415) 321-3720, (415) 321-3650 Fax, info@millennium.com.
Keywords: computers, technology, software, Millennium Software
Labs, Newsgrazer Pro, NeXT, NEXTSTEP, news reader, Usenet
(C) 1993 Millennium Software Labs, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Newsgrazer Pro and Engage! Desktop are trademarks of Millennium
Software Labs, Inc. NEXTSTEP is a registered trademark of NeXT
Computer, Inc, in the U.S. and other countries.
From comp.sys.next.announce 4 Aug 1993
----
Newsgrazer Pro for NEXTSTEP: Questions and Answers
Q. When will Newsgrazer Pro ship?
A. Newsgrazer Pro is scheduled for a mid- to late-October,
1993 release.
Q. What is the price?
A. Newsgrazer Pro has a suggested retail price of $199.99.
-----
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- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jfr@trwlasd.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CrBEH4.Lrv@trwlasd.com>
Sender: jfr@trwlasd.com (Jon Rosen)
Organization: TRW
References: <2tg41v$5dc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 02:48:39 GMT
David Lemson writes:
> J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes:
> > gguelden@ixpoint.de writes:
> > > Sorry mate, but I think you haven't understood the concepts of pages
> >That comment means nothing without justification and explanation. I
> >asked a valid question answerable perfectly well by "It now has it",
> >"It already has it and you apparently missed it" or "I don't know when
> >it will get it".
>
> The concept of Pages, as I heard it about 2 years ago when I saw a
> pre-Alpha, is that you create a set of document templates that your
> organization will use. These templates are either created by you
> and Pages (they will use their high priced expert graphic designers
> to help you) or by you with their very expensive template creation
> kit. Then, you distribute those templates to all of your people...
> the result: all of your memos, reports, brochures, etc. have the
> same stylistic features. It comes with some basic templates.
> It's really not designed for a onesy-twosy user - it's more for an
> enterprise-wide document processing solution.
Frankly, I don't see much difference between what Pages does for you
using "high priced expert graphic designers" or their "expensive
template creation kit" and what you (or your more modestly paid
graphic designers) can do with Framemaker using THEIR template
facilities that are bundled with the product. You can build a whole
set of Frame templates and every can be forced (if you so desire) or
encouraged to use them.
We used Framemaker at the past three companies I have worked for
including two relational database companies where all technical
documentation, notes, memos, letters, etc. were built in Frame.
These were not onesy-twosy operations, one had 230 people and the
other had a more modest 21. Once the templates were built, it was
easy to teach even software developers to use it ;-)
However, the basic question that was asked was not answered. So
what if Frame can build cool consistent templates. If it doesn't
have fundamental word and page processing tools like Table of
Contents creation and indexing, it is useless. All of your
documents will be consistent but incomplete. Sigh....
Jon Rosen
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet
Date: 13 Jun 1994 01:49:51 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2tgs1v$qbe@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will
be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: NewsGrazer: Level market at level 0
Message-ID: <1994Jun13.060848.350@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 06:08:48 GMT
Dave Griffiths wrote:
> As someone who was once going to write a newsreader for NS, I think NeXT
> have handled the situation pretty well actually.
I'm curious.
> Remember that NG was an
> unofficial app written by an employee in his spare time. Then it became very
> popular, then the guy who wrote it quit. Now what were NeXT supposed to do
> with it? In the interests of a "level playing field", they couldn't release
> the source or it will have killed off any chance of a commercial newsreader
> appearing. They couldn't drop support altogether because with no alternative
> available, people had come to rely on it and the pressure for an Intel
version
> was simply too great. So they've simply done the bare minimum in the way of
> support leaving the way clear for a third-party newsreader to come in and
> provide all the extra bells and whistles people want.
Yep. The question, though, is why.
> The only problem with this strategy is that there's no money to be made from
> shrink-wrapped apps for NS.
Which means the "level playing field equals level 0" so to speak. In essence
NeXT has created a part of the market where no commercial apps can appear and
where no good app will be available because the only one available is not
supported. I can hardly believe that NeXT is incapable of seeing this, so:
The question is why NeXT did not release the sources so far.
They did release BackSpace sources, and Icon made it into a supported app
called IconBuilder.
There are two reasons I can think of:
1. They are plain stupid, since they did not realise the mess that
would result from this.
2. Jayson wouldn't let them because he wanted to go commercial with NG
Pro and he has the copyright of the code (depends on the sort of contract he
had when working for NeXT).
In the meantime, Jayson seems to have decided not to make NG pro because of the
"level market at level 0" (i.e. no market). In the meantime I haven't seen him
arguing for a release of the sources, just for NeXT to support the app.
So, I'd like to have clarification from either NeXT or Jayson Adams about the
official reason why NG code is not made public.
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Subject: Re: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de drops commercial support
Message-ID: <1994Jun13.064855.3269@balou.rhein.de>
Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Organization: private NeXT
References: <2t9v1r$ovq@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 06:48:55 GMT
Gianfranco Pocecai writes
>> In article <2t9kt0$reb@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com
(Paradigm
>> Shift Corporation) writes:
>> >
>> > Where is the site?
>>
>> ftp to:
>> cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
>> login: anonymous
>> passwd: your-email-address
>> you can upload in the directory /pub/submissions
>> If you have other needs send me a mail, I'll try to help.
>>
>> Gianfranco
You just want to switch your favorite ftp-site instead of trying to "save" a
proved one? Then in a short time we won't have big ftp-sites, maybe.
tommi
------
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tommi@balou.rhein.de
voice: +49 2225 701332
NeXT-Mail appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Subject: Re: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de drops commercial support
Message-ID: <1994Jun13.064941.3326@balou.rhein.de>
Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Organization: private NeXT
References: <2t8vm3$2g8@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 06:49:41 GMT
Michael McCulloch writes
>> The excellent Munich ftp site has dropped support of commercial
>> apps. I don't mean to be an alarmist, but given the situation,
>> the Internet was about the last site a NEXTSTEP developer can
>> advertise his/her wares. No magazine, now no archive support.
>>
>> How about a world-wide fund drive to get ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
>> back in the game? 2 GB disks are less than $2K nowdays...
>> --
>> Michael McCulloch
>> michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
>> Huntsville, Alabama
Shure, how do you think we could manage this?
tommi
------
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tommi@balou.rhein.de
voice: +49 2225 701332
NeXT-Mail appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nicole A Vincent <nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer support (was: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup")
Message-ID: <CrBLFo.8Mw@number_one.apana.org.au>
Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nikki A Vincent)
Organization: Cafe Abbey - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
References: <jbn.771447077@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 05:19:00 GMT
Hi
Don't know if it has already been said here (partially because I have not
followed the thread thoroughly) but it seems that NewsGrazer on my
standalone NeXTstation connected to the net through uucp will crash when I
try to catch up a news group which is still being sorted. ie. you click
on a newsgroup, the article names/numbers start popping up, and if you
click catch up before it is finished then it will always crash. If you
wait until it is finished sorting out what articles are there, it will
then allow you to catch up without crashing.
This is not however a solution to this problem, but only a behaviouristic
symptom report. So if you can avoid clicking on catch up before all is
sorted then it should not crash. I can see that running NewsGrazer with
NNTP can cause problems, as if someone posts a new article and it wants to
appear just as you click "catch up", then it will still crash.
Anyway,.....
Cheers
Nicole
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re:The limits of Pages (was FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP)
Date: 13 Jun 1994 06:51:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tgvli$lc5@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <jbn.771475265@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
In article <jbn.771475265@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> I also don't think Pages need be
> involved in my document after they've sold me the app (unless I'm
> bringing up a bug or asking a question about how things operate). For
> these reasons, I'd prefer an approach where the tools to make and edit
> the layout come with the application (they need not be literally in
> the same app so long as the functionality is there).
>
> For as much money as Pages costs compared to the competition that
> allows me this freedom (namely, Frame), I don't think that's a lot to
> ask.
AMEN. I have Pages, and am very annoyed with not being able to create my
own design models. This is a real pain. Worst of all, this seems to be a
conscious choice on the part of Pages Software rather than just a feature
they haven't yet had time to implement.
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Enough, already! (was Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup")
Date: 13 Jun 1994 08:02:38 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2th3qu$pqa@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <2t7ajj$dg3@inxs.concert.net> <2t8bok$e9@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com> <2teqjb$enu@yucca.omnigroup.com>
In article <2teqjb$enu@yucca.omnigroup.com>
wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes:
>Expecting free software to be supported is insane.
So, for example, we should consider OmniWeb a "technology
demonstration" only, and seek alternative solutions if we're
"serious" about native WWW software? [Right now, I think I'd be
happy if <IMG ALIGN=TOP ...> and <IMG ALIGN=MIDDLE ...> worked
right. Basic stuff, guys!]
>Why don't you walk into a car dealership and ask if they'll give you a
>free car, and then if they agree say, "Well, now that you've given me the
>car, you're obligated to fix it for free if anything breaks."
If it's broken to begin with, it's a lemon.
-=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Date: 13 Jun 1994 08:10:29 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2th49l$q28@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com> <2tbij4$2rm@news.iastate.edu> <jbn.771353964@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk> <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com>
In article <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com>
jayson@millennium.com (Jayson Adams) writes:
>NeXT doesn't care about third parties or "level playing fields." Their
>releasing a MAB version has killed off any chance of a commerial app.
Speak for yourself. "Free" software doesn't kill off commercial
apps, it just discourages marginal ones that probably never
should have been marketed anyway. People will pay for support
and/or added value.
While you're at it, fix your From: header (or add a proper
Reply-To:), OK?
-=EPS=-
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer: Level market at level 0
Date: 13 Jun 1994 08:36:23 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2th5q7$r3p@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk> <1994Jun13.060848.350@rna.nl>
In article <1994Jun13.060848.350@rna.nl> gerben@rna.nl
(Gerben Wierda) writes:
>The question is why NeXT did not release the sources so far.
How about "it's unbelievably sloppy code written by someone who
made serious mistakes along the way, didn't have a good grasp
of what he was dealing with, and public disclosure would be both
embarrassing for NeXT and unnecessarily damaging to the original
author's reputation?"
What's clear is that users like the idea behind NewsGrazer, its
user interface, etc. It badly needs a thorough rewrite--but this
isn't going to happen without NeXT's support, and shouldn't
happen against Jayson's wishes.
>They did release BackSpace sources, and Icon made it into a supported app
>called IconBuilder.
Icon and IconBuilder are *not* related.
-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
Subject: Re: STANDALONE TRANSSYS SLIP is POSSIBLE
Message-ID: <1994Jun13.102224.24470@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Originator: blanford@arkenstone
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
References: <damonc.20.2DFB6990@hookup.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 10:22:24 GMT
In article <damonc.20.2DFB6990@hookup.net> damonc@hookup.net (Damon F.
Cooper) writes:
> Is there ANYONE out there that is running a STANDALONE NS box that
> is successfully running TransSys PNI SLIP?? I posed a similar question
> last week, and I got 31 (THIRTY ONE!!)responses from people looking for
> help as well...
>
> Can anyone help? (Please!)
>
> Given a "fresh", standalone machine, install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on it,
> what are the steps to follow? Anybody have this working that could
> post/upload the config files/etc?
>
> THANK-YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE!!
>
> Damon Cooper
> damonc@hookup.net
Here are my configuration scripts that work. I'm no networking guru, but
this works well enough for my satisfaction. Your mileage may vary.
I am running NS 3.2 on a standalone system, using TransSys PNI 1.9 quite
successfully. I commented out the stuff added by the installation script
to rc.local and bring the connection up and down manually by running the
following scripts as root.
====== begin bin/slipup ======
#!/bin/sh
#slipup - bring up the slip connection
/etc/pni/pnid -C -c -n pni0 -f /etc/pni/config/remote.SLIP &
====== end slipup ======
====== begin bin/slipdown ======
#!/bin/sh
#slipdown - bring down the slip connection
pnistat -c down pni0
ifconfig pni0 down
====== end slipdown ======
The config file remote.SLIP looks like this (names and addresses changed
to protect the innocent). The remote machine is a black NeXT that runs
TransSys dialup-ip as the login shell to the slip account. I've also used
it successfully with a Xyplex terminal server. Both have statically
assigned ip addresses, which makes things much simpler.
====== begin config/remote.SLIP ======
#
# Pretty close to minimal configuration file for just plain SLIP using
# a PPI modem dialing into a unix server.
#
# $Header: /local/SRCS/slip2/pnid/support/config.slip,v 1.4 1993/10/06
02:42:48 louie Exp $
## PART I.
set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0
set Config(pni:MTU) 1006
set Config(pni:ADDRESS) 111.444.111.98
set Config(pni:REMOTEADDRESS) 111.444.111.99
set Config(pni:NETWORKMASK) 255.255.255.0
set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 1
set Config(slip:MODE) slip
set Config(tty:DEVICE) /dev/cufa
set Config(tty:SPEED) 38400
set Config(tty:MODEMTYPE) ppi
set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) unix
set Config(tty:SERVERNAME) remoteslip
set Config(tty:NUMBER) 555-1212
set Config(remoteslip:DIALTYPE) TONE
set Config(remoteslip:USERNAME) slip
set Config(remoteslip:PASSWORD) whateveryoulike
#set Config(remoteslip:SECRETFILE) /etc/pni/config/password.pni0
# PART II.
stack PNI pni
stack SLIP slip
stack TTY tty
# PART III.
proc LINK_start { encap } {
log "LINK $encap connected"
}
proc LINK_stop { encap } {
log "LINK $encap disconnected"
}
====== end remote.SLIP ======
My modem is a Practical Peripherals which didn't have a dial-ppi.tcl modem
script to match, but I fudged it up from the Zyxel, basically changing
only the initialization parameters.
Works like a dream. Thanks, Louis.
-- Ron
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Enough, already! (was Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup")
Date: 13 Jun 1994 03:53:55 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2thds3$hse@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2t7ajj$dg3@inxs.concert.net> <2t8bok$e9@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com> <2teqjb$enu@yucca.omnigroup.com> <2th3qu$pqa@nic-nac.CSU.net>
eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
>In article <2teqjb$enu@yucca.omnigroup.com>
> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes:
>>Expecting free software to be supported is insane.
>So, for example, we should consider OmniWeb a "technology
>demonstration" only, and seek alternative solutions if we're
>"serious" about native WWW software? [Right now, I think I'd be
>happy if <IMG ALIGN=TOP ...> and <IMG ALIGN=MIDDLE ...> worked
>right. Basic stuff, guys!]
Absolutely. I invite you to use any other native-NEXTSTEP WWW browser
you find.
-Wil
From: castagna@oeillet (Giuseppe Castagna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Illustrator and NeXTStep 3.2
Date: 13 Jun 1994 14:49:43 GMT
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure
Message-ID: <2thrm7$kua@nef.ens.fr>
I'am using Adobe Illustrator version 3.0 with NextStep 3.2 : I place a couple
of tiff files, I draw some lines, write some text and when I try to print the
file or to save it to a postscript file I have a nasty system crash ... so
nasty that the only solution is to unplug the machine. Has anybody else had the
same problem? And if so, did you find the solution?
Thanks
Giuseppe Castagna
------------------------------------------------------------
LIENS Tel. ++33-1-4432 2082
Ecole Normale Superieure FAX. ++33-1-4432 2080
45, rue d'Ulm
75005 Paris
From: lsean@VNET.IBM.COM
Message-ID: <19940613.084436.874@almaden.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:23:49 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Read NeXT diskette off a PC
If I can NFS-mount my PC to a black NeXT, just wondering, is there any
software out there that can read a NeXT diskette off a PC's diskette drive?
If not, anybody has a roadmap for NeXT's diskette format? Is it technically
feasible to write such a driver? Thanks,
Sean Holmes
From: lsean@VNET.IBM.COM
Message-ID: <19940613.091243.772@almaden.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 12:12:19 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TCP/IP for DOS
This may be a FAQ...
Could anybody give me any info about hooking up a PC with a NeXT via Ethernet?
Specifically, what is an (inexpensive) software on the PC side that drives
an (again, inexpensive) NIC and supports telnet, ftp, and NFS?
Thanks in advance,
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The limits of Pages (was FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP)
Date: 13 Jun 94 16:21:46 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.771524506@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <jbn.771475265@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <2tgvli$lc5@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
>AMEN. I have Pages, and am very annoyed with not being able to create my
>own design models. This is a real pain. Worst of all, this seems to be a
>conscious choice on the part of Pages Software rather than just a feature
>they haven't yet had time to implement.
Thank you. If you are interested in a competitive product, I suggest
Frame. Although their NS product lacks a true NS interface (I think
it's been designed and built to conform to the manuals already in
existance rather than take advantage of the features NS has to offer;
a lot like WordPerfect/NS did), it's quite capable (unlike WP/NS) and
there is a good store-bought book in case you can't get full-time
access to the manual or prefer a boiled-down to basics approach.
As clearly stated on the Info Panel, v3.0 (I don't have the absolute
latest version in front of me at the moment) allows the FrameMaker
distribution media to be distributed freely so long as the license key
is not also given away. I don't think anyone would lose any sleep
over giving the program to someone without also giving them the disks
and manuals (and anything else that comes under the term "FrameMaker
distribution media"). Version 3.0 is not the latest purchaseable on
any platform, but documents created with it are upwardly-compatible
(as are documents created with succeeding versions) so you won't lose
your work and v3.0 can handle large books quite well.
In case you don't want the runaround and rollercoaster ride that is NS
product support from major developers, I suggest getting the latest
Frame on Windows or the Mac (the Mac can also import MS-Word
documents).
The store-bought book I referred to is:
"Structured Publishing From The Desktop--Frame Technology's FrameMaker"
by Michael Fraase
ISBN 1-55623-616-6
--
No NeXTmail please
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: X-server for Intel hardware
Date: 13 Jun 1994 17:51:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ti6al$p96@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2thng1$1010@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
In article <2thng1$1010@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
chris@hi5.ikp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (Christoph M Zoeller) writes:
> I need a (free) X11 server to run under 3.2 on Intel. MouseX seems to be
> black hardware only, and somehow I have had a lot of problems accessing
> the US archive sites lately (I'm located in Germany). So, before I spent
As far as I know, there is no free X server for NextStep Intel. The two
Intel versions (cubeX, coXist) cost money.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator and NeXTStep 3.2
Date: 13 Jun 1994 18:17:08 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ti7r4$pjl@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2thrm7$kua@nef.ens.fr>
In article <2thrm7$kua@nef.ens.fr> castagna@oeillet (Giuseppe Castagna)
writes:
> I'am using Adobe Illustrator version 3.0 with NextStep 3.2 : I place a
couple
> of tiff files, I draw some lines, write some text and when I try to
print the
> file or to save it to a postscript file I have a nasty system crash ...
so
> nasty that the only solution is to unplug the machine. Has anybody else
had the
> same problem? And if so, did you find the solution?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Giuseppe Castagna
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> LIENS Tel. ++33-1-4432 2082
> Ecole Normale Superieure FAX. ++33-1-4432 2080
> 45, rue d'Ulm
> 75005 Paris
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Illustrator and NeXTStep 3.2
Date: 13 Jun 1994 18:18:15 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ti7t7$pk7@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2thrm7$kua@nef.ens.fr>
In article <2thrm7$kua@nef.ens.fr> castagna@oeillet (Giuseppe Castagna)
writes:
> I'am using Adobe Illustrator version 3.0 with NextStep 3.2 : I place a
couple
> of tiff files, I draw some lines, write some text and when I try to
print the
> file or to save it to a postscript file I have a nasty system crash ...
so
> nasty that the only solution is to unplug the machine. Has anybody else
had the
> same problem? And if so, did you find the solution?
I have no such problems with Illustrator 3.0 and NextStep 3.2.
By the way, your return email address is incomplete.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran)
Subject: Re: Compressed texinfo files in Emacs.app distribution?
Message-ID: <1994Jun13.073339.14125@abulafia.in-berlin.de>
Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de
Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany
References: <CEDMAN.94Jun12131619@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 07:33:39 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.94Jun12131619@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> In article <940608140615.201AABqM.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>
jmm@umich.edu writes:
Emacs info doesn't work with gzipped info files for me. It only shows
"no more nodes" if i try it. What's wrong? I would like to have this
feature, too, 'cause I'm always short on diskspace.
Any hints very welcome.
CIAO Volker
PS: I have Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.0.s.tar.gz installed.
--
************************************************************
* Volker Safran, FB13, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 *
* EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 *
* volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)*
* safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (no NeXTMail, sorry) *
************************************************************
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: re: STANDALONE TRANSSYS SLIP POSSIBLE?
Date: 13 Jun 1994 20:09:00 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2tiecs$qup@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <CrBAC7.I3E@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <CrBAC7.I3E@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> markh@sunee.uwaterloo.ca
(Mark Henry) writes:
> It is not clear whether there is an incompatibility between NS 3.2
> and TransSys PNI 1.9, or if it is some other factor that is causing
> the problem.
I am running PNI 1.9 on NS3.2 (mono slab, standalone). No problems - now
that it is running!
I did have trouble when I upgraded to 1.9 from 1.7 but that was because I
had edited one of the sample scripts without renaming it, and it got
replaced with the original script.
> So user error is unlikely (famous last words...)
Hmm... (:^)
Some things have changed along the way; you might want to have a close
look at those release notes. Among other things, only pnix.config-auto
files get read at boot time in 1.9.
--
Brent Swekla "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca the day after tomorrow" - Mark Twain
From: marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de drops commercial support
Date: 13 Jun 1994 19:44:10 +0200
Organization: Palumbian Networks
Message-ID: <2ti5ta$92g@palumbia.in-berlin.de>
References: <2t8vm3$2g8@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <1994Jun13.064941.3326@balou.rhein.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer) writes:
>Michael McCulloch writes
> >> How about a world-wide fund drive to get ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
> >> back in the game? 2 GB disks are less than $2K nowdays...
>Shure, how do you think we could manage this?
Maybe we ask NeXT to support the ftp-server(s)?
Henrik
--
--
Henrik Hempelmann marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (NeXT/MIME/PGP-Mail)
>> Why should I tidy my room, when the whole world is in a mess ??? <<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Subject: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <CrCr4w.w8D@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:19:43 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Keywords: fortran hp nextstep
i have found out that absoft, makers of a FORTRAN compiler
for black boxes, has no plans to build a compiler for
NeXTSTEP on hp.
i also found out, after a veritable plethora of phone calls,
that NAG (numerical algorithms group) has no plans for such
a compiler either.
HP had no plans when we first brought this question to them
last winter, as expected.
does anyone have any ideas on who to contact further?
not being able to compile FORTRAN on a regular basis under
NeXTSTEP on our hp's is going to critically detract from
having NeXTSTEP there at all.
no f2c comments please.
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: the new LaTeX: any pointers?
Date: 13 Jun 1994 20:52:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2tiguh$i97@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Well, I was thinking of installing the new LaTeX distribution on my
NeXTStation, and I was wondering if anyone had any hints/gotcha's to share
about the procedure. Better yet, anyone written an installer package to
do it?
Later,
don...
From: wayne@unixg.ubc.ca (Wayne Henriques)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fax Reporting Tools
Date: 10 Jun 1994 21:39:51 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <2tamj7$c6u@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Keywords: Fax Report
Hi there,
Are they any fax reporting tools superior to Fax Reader.
I send nearly 300 faxes each day, so Mail is also inadequate.
Thanks
wayne
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: upgrading to 3.2 on black
Date: 10 Jun 1994 05:59:50 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2t8vgm$lu5@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2t5urb$1gm@search01.news.aol.com>
In article <2t5urb$1gm@search01.news.aol.com> rwillard@aol.com (Rwillard)
writes:
> Has anyone upgraded a NeXt station color to version 3.2 using a mac
> CDROM? I have no difficulty reading CDroms when the system has been
> booted but cannot get it to recognize the 3.2 CDrom using the upgrade
> floppy on the internal floppy drive as the boot drive.
I used an Apple 150 CD ROM drive to upgrade my NextStation color from 3.1
to 3.2. If you want to do an upgrade, you DO NOT want to boot from the
floppy/CD ROM drive. Boot with your existing 3.1 (or earlier) NextStep
system and simply double click on the upgrade icon on the CD ROM disk.
By the way, I have also done a fresh install from the CD ROM, so I can
assure you that that works on a colorstation too. Type bfd from the ROM
monitor and it will read the floppy, search for your CD ROM drive, and run
the installer program from the CD ROM. This program erases the whole hard
drive and installs a virgin copy of NextStep 3.2.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does File Dragging & Copying Still work on 3.2 Intel??
Date: 13 Jun 1994 22:28:34 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2timii$oci@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Yes, I know that the alt key now assumes the role of the command key ---
which makes the online Workspace documentation invalid now --- but still I
cannot seem to get the GUI interface to move rather than copy. In
general, do the alt and other keys still work for file dragging? If so,
how??
--
Sincerely,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Message-ID: <1994Jun13.215031.2189@millennium.com>
Keywords: "Stop it - you're talking crazy!" - Stimpy
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
References: <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com> <2tglt1$phh@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 21:50:31 GMT
In article <2tglt1$phh@digifix.digifix.com>, Scott Anguish writes:
> Jayson Adams writes
> > In article <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk>, Dave Griffiths
writes:
> > > They couldn't drop support altogether because with no alternative
> > > available,
> >
> > Uh, people survived for many months without it, and NGPro was announced
and
> > scheduled to ship in Q1, '94.
> >
>
> Hmmmm... thats not what you said on 29 Jul 1993
>
> note the dates (paragraph marked with !)
>
> [goes on to mention our original Q4, '94 ship date
True. That turned into Q1, '94 (NeXT asked us when we would really ship, and
this was the date we gave them).
__jayson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Message-ID: <1994Jun13.215243.2257@millennium.com>
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
References: <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com> <2tbij4$2rm@news.iastate.edu> <jbn.771353964@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk> <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com> <2th49l$q28@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 21:52:43 GMT
In article <2th49l$q28@nic-nac.CSU.net>, Eric P. Scott writes:
> In article <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com>
> jayson@millennium.com (Jayson Adams) writes:
> >NeXT doesn't care about third parties or "level playing fields." Their
> >releasing a MAB version has killed off any chance of a commerial app.
>
> Speak for yourself. "Free" software doesn't kill off commercial
> apps, it just discourages marginal ones that probably never
> should have been marketed anyway. People will pay for support
> and/or added value.
Speak for yourself! In this case, my friend, the "free" software did kill off
a commercial app. And while people will pay for support/added value, they
will not pay any price (and a smaller market means a higher price).
__jayson
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re:Pages will have template editor (was FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP)
Date: 14 Jun 1994 01:12:26 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tj05q$1c6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2tgvli$lc5@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <jbn.771475265@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> I also don't think Pages need be
> involved in my document after they've sold me the app (unless I'm
> bringing up a bug or asking a question about how things operate). For
> these reasons, I'd prefer an approach where the tools to make and edit
> the layout come with the application (they need not be literally in
> the same app so long as the functionality is there).
I emailed Pages, and they say that their app will ultimately include a
design model editor as an integral part of the package. I stand corrected
and am taking the liberty of including the comments of Jon Wright of Pages
Software:
> We do not wish to inconvenience anyone by not enabling them to
> make their own design models. There is a Design Model Editor
> under construction, and we are working with third parties to
> develop more models for specific markets. The Pages project
> itself consumed all of our available resources and then some,
> so the Editor is a time/resource issue, not a conscious effort
> on our part to inhibit users from creating their own design
> models.
>
> The Editor is an integral part of our package and not intended
> to be any kind of add-on, which we have publicized many times
> in many venues. Since we are a small company, we can only
> work on a limited number of projects at any given time (and
> there are plenty of others in the pipeline as well). Please
> bear with us.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Date: 14 Jun 1994 02:59:32 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tj6ek$oe9@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <1994Jun13.215243.2257@millennium.com>
In article <1994Jun13.215243.2257@millennium.com> Jayson Adams writes:
> In article <2th49l$q28@nic-nac.CSU.net>, Eric P. Scott writes:
> > In article <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com>
> > jayson@millennium.com (Jayson Adams) writes:
> > >NeXT doesn't care about third parties or "level playing fields." Their
> > >releasing a MAB version has killed off any chance of a commerial app.
> >
> > Speak for yourself. "Free" software doesn't kill off commercial
> > apps, it just discourages marginal ones that probably never
> > should have been marketed anyway. People will pay for support
> > and/or added value.
>
> Speak for yourself! In this case, my friend, the "free" software did kill
off
> a commercial app. And while people will pay for support/added value, they
> will not pay any price (and a smaller market means a higher price).
On what information did you base your decision to not
complete NG Pro? It just seems like a lot of folks I know
(our group included) would have been willing to pay you
for a much improved (please!) NG.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: qShariff@io.org (qShariff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP / PPP for NeXTSTEP
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 04:44:46
Organization: IS solutions
Message-ID: <qShariff.5.0004BF23@io.org>
In article <2t73tf$db8@castle.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) writes:
>From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)>Subject: SLIP / PPP for NeXTSTEP
>Date: 9 Jun 1994 13:02:39 GMT
>Does anyone out there have source for either SLIP or PPP on NS3.2
>I want to run this is white hardware, but can only find binaries for
>black hardware. Any pointers would be appreciated.
>(the source for ppp doesn't want to compile on black or white hardware and
> I don't really have the time to try and figure out how to make it work
> with 3.X unfotunately)
>-pete.
Check out the TransSys Slip program at cs.orst.edu (anonymous ftp)
/pub/next/binaries/comm/TransSys-PNI-1.7-beta.tar.gz
It's only a beta version.
I have downloaded it to my standAlone white NS/FIP 3.2. But I can't get it to
work. I get the kernel driver not loaded message when I try to run it.
There is quite a lot a documontation too.
Good luck! and if you have successful then please send me some tips.
Thanks.
Q
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: Re: Presentation Quality Graphs....
Message-ID: <Cr6ywH.Cy@chemelex.com>
Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Organization: Research Group of Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation
References: <Jun.8.16.15.58.1994.29314@fidelio.rutgers.edu>
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 17:21:52 GMT
Try S-Plus, I use the very verstile data graphics, saved as
postscript files, drag into Diagram or Virty for some sprucing
and off to the color printers.... Works well.
Fred
Ashwin Walia writes
> Hi Netters,
> I am looking for a presentation quality graphics software
for the NEXT, which is TeX compatible, can produce PS/EPS
output, which is also much more affordable than the TECPLOT
software viz. ~ $600/yr.
> Pls let me know if you know of any such software
available, with as much details about procurement as possible.
Pls reply directly to my email add given below.
>
> Thanks
>
> a. walia
>
> (walia@sol.rutgers.edu)
--
Fred Schenkelberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Message-ID: <Cr6z03.Dp@chemelex.com>
Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Organization: Research Group of Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation
References: <2t5bns$pe7@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 17:24:03 GMT
The best I've seen and currently use is S-Plus, check it out and
call StatSci to get demo info. 206-283-8802 or email at
mktg@statsci.com
Fred Schenkelberg
NeXTmail enjoyed
fms@chemelex.com
Redwood City, CA
Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> writes
> In article <2t2f66$gte@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas
> Obst) writes:
> > We use DAN - The Data ANalyzer a lot in our research group.
I do most of
> > the (2-D) plots for my dissertation with it. It might be
extended to 3-D
> > at some point in the future.
> >
>
> Another product to add to the list of scientific plotting
products is PV-WAVE
> from Visual Numerics. It's suppose to be available this
summer or fall and
> includes an Interface Builder Palette. This is from their
Spring 1994
> Newsletter.
>
> - Tim -
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------
> Tim F. Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu
> Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270
> Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064
> NeXTmail ok!
--
Fred Schenkelberg
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: public ftp site for Next public domain software?
Date: 10 Jun 1994 09:36:45 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2t98mt$2jk@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2t5i1a$q92@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
dfleskes@godiva.nwest.mccaw.com (David Fleskes) writes:
>Can someone point me to a public ftp site for miscellaneous software?
>Specifically, I'm looking for tcsh and some sort system exerciser package.
cs.orst.edu
sonata.cc.purdue.edu
ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
ftp.uni-stuttgart.de
Have fun!
--
/dev/ Markus Wenzel
/usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
/etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart
/bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: shortcomings of f2c (was Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP)
Date: 15 Jun 94 22:47:19
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Jun15224719@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
References: <2tkh20$jcb@wave.aoml.erl.gov> <2tl4j9$c04@network.ucsd.edu>
In-reply-to: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu's message of 14 Jun 1994 20:40:09 GMT
>>>>> On 14 Jun 1994 20:40:09 GMT, mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) said:
[.... deleted ..]
Matt> This ought to make us feel grateful for just what benefit GNU CC has
Matt> provided for everyone.
Well I also feel grateful to f2c (Bell?).
Matt> I presume the problem with "f2c" is in debugging?
I have been told that this is not a real problem, f2c supports
-c Include original Fortran source as comments.
which can be used for source level debugging.
I am not much of a fortran coder myself; prefer C, use f2c for
compiling numerical fortran libs. so take what I say with a
grain of salt, but have been told by people who use it a lot
that this works.
I have come across two valid concerns for NOT using f2c.
1. f2c does not support more than 16-7 digits of accuracy
2. f2c does not support vms extensions of fortran. (sigh...)
another criticism, which I have seen is that the output code is
slower than that of a native compiler. This is possible, but
platform dependent. That is, you f2c then optimize as much as
you can using cc, gcc or whatever tool you have. Depends on how
good the C compiler is, also on the code, presumably.
It would be interesting to know how f2c + gcc -O performs
against commercial compilers on NS. (They had better be faster :-)
Regards,
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
... posting from kyoto....
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTeX for the HP under NEXTSTEP ?
Date: 15 Jun 1994 16:00:28 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tn8is$25g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Hello fellows !
I was wondering if anybody had compiled LaTeX (Or TeX and the other pd like
TeXMenu and so one) under NEXTSTEP for the HP stations. I would really
appreciate a positive answer somewhere.
Best regards,
- Eric
Opinion expressed is my own !
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NeXT sys. admin.
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Beckman Institute Theoretical Biophysics
405 N. Mathews Ave. Urbana, IL 61801, USA
Tel: (217) 244-1851 Fax: (217) 244-6078
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From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Image thumbnailer reviews?
Date: 15 Jun 94 16:20:32 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.771697232@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <2tlg69$d2n@digifix.digifix.com>
>*** GEMSTONE SYSTEMS ANNOUNCES IMAGE CURATOR 1.0 ***
>Cost: $125 per user.
I just saw an article about a shareware Windows thumbnailer that cost
$5 in the May '94 Computer Shopper (pages 610-611). I'd consider
buying Image Curator, but $125 is unreasonable, in my opinion.
Are there any NS image thumbnailers that are more reasonably priced
(perhaps somewhere around $50), shareware, PD or commercial? Any
reviews of them?
--
No NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Subject: Re: shortcomings of f2c (was Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP)
Message-ID: <1994Jun15.165341.12629@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Alberta
References: <2tkh20$jcb@wave.aoml.erl.gov> <2tl4j9$c04@network.ucsd.edu> <KAOKI.94Jun15224719@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 16:53:41 GMT
Kenichiro Aoki (kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp) wrote:
: It would be interesting to know how f2c + gcc -O performs
: against commercial compilers on NS. (They had better be faster :-)
I would not bet a farm on it. :-)
'-O' optimization in gcc (and NeXT cc) is pretty weak - on purpose.
If you are serious about optimizing then at least '-O2' should be
used and there is a couple of other flags still not covered by that.
They are described in docs.
Saying that Fortran optimizers, in principle, have a more leeway
in transforming your code because:
- there is more ways in C to modify something behind your back (pointers)
and optimizers have to be pessimistic about this
- Fortran programmers are way more tolerant about optimizer bugs
I am only a quarter-facetious on the second point.
Michal
michal@phys.ualberta.ca
From: michael@wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Michael Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed texinfo files in Emacs.app distribution?
Date: 11 Jun 1994 12:38:21 +0200
Organization: WayForward Technologies
Message-ID: <2tc46t$bih@tar.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl>
References: <940608140615.201AABqM.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>
In article <940608140615.201AABqM.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>,
<jmm@umich.edu> wrote:
>
>I'm sure I'm going to feel stupid when I hear the answer to this one, but...I
>just noticed that all of the texinfo files in the Emacs.app distribution from
>Carl Edman (in /LocalApps/Emacs.app/info) are gzipped (.gz files), and that
>installation built links from the .gz files to my /usr/local/info
>subdirectory. I can't figure out why from the ns-emacs texinfo file, and I
>don't have the distribution package on my machine so I'm hoping to get the
>answer without re-grabbing the full transfer and digging through it.
The reason Carl compressed the .info files is simple: to save diskspace.
When reading info files with emacs the are automagicly unzipped on the fly.
However reading them with info does not work. It's up to you to unzip the
info files and recreate the symlinks if you have the diskspace for it. If
you always read info files with emacs, you can consider gzipping the whole
/usr/local/info directory.
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Date: 11 Jun 94 16:59:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.771353964@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <2t7ajj$dg3@inxs.concert.net> <2t8bok$e9@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com> <2tbij4$2rm@news.iastate.edu>
Keywords: And don't take "No" for an answer!
chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes:
>BTW, I thought NeXT said the FAT
>NewsGrazer75 is not supported. Is that true? Can someone clairify
>this?
NeXT seems to want to support it only when they feel like it. They
want it both ways, in my opinion. They want to offer it MAB when it's
convenient for them, keep the source code (rather than release it and
let the public work on it until it works right, adding features we all
feel are worthwhile) and simultaneously claim it's "unsupported" so
they don't have to be in any position to fix bugs or add features.
--
No NeXTmail please
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: zsh customization for NEXTSTEP ?
Date: 11 Jun 1994 16:49:09 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <2tcpu5$c4q@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Ok, I've given in to C.E.'s decent propaganda for the zsh, and I have to
admit: It looks really nice. It has so much features that you could easily
spend all the time customizing your zsh enviroment. Remembers me of a
beast called Emacs ;-).
Just one of the nice 'goodies' of zsh is that it's possible to drag a
directory from the Workspace into a terminal window and just press enter,
and the current path is changed ('cd' is not necessary).
Just some questions to the infiltrated masses using zsh with NEXTSTEP:
- Is is possible to set the title line of the terminal window to the
current path of the shell ? There's an expample for Xwindows in the zsh
distribution, could this be done with Terminal.app ?
- Has anybody done a completion function for 'open -a XX' ? It would be
nice to list all applications registered by the Workspace. One could even
think about a default completion according to the extension of the file
to be opened ...
- Not NEXTSTEP specific: Any 'process name' completion function for the
'kill' command ? Ok, this might be a little bit risky ;-)
- Any other NEXTSTEP/zsh hints ?
Gregor
--
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| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Date: 11 Jun 94 17:18:22 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.771355102@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <2t5360$egi@gateway.wiltel.com> <2t8ur1$lqg@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
>My version 3.0.1 of FrameMaker still runs under NextStep
>3.2, but I can't get an upgrade and have therefore switched to using
>Pages.
It's too bad Pages isn't as flexible as Frame. Any word on when Pages
will support auto-indexing, TOC generation or allow the user to edit
their own design forms? For as much money as Pages cost, I'm suprised
the user doesn't have as much control as in Frame.
--
No NeXTmail please
From: swlodkow@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Steve Wlodkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb config question
Date: 15 Jun 1994 17:51:23 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Message-ID: <2tnf2s$spf@news.eecs.uic.edu>
References: <2tlc4m$nln@news.eecs.uic.edu>
Steve Wlodkowski (swlodkow@bert.eecs.uic.edu) wrote:
: I'm having a bit of a problem getting OmniWeb running. Any
: kind soul got a suggestion? It's got to be something obvious,
: but I haven't figured it out.
It was obvious. The terminal server I'm slipping into doesn't allow
full net access. :< First have to log into one of the local machines
that does.
I don't suppose there's an undocumented hack in OmniWeb that would
allow me to set up such a configuration?
Anyone know if any of the X-based browsers allow for such a thing?
Regards,
Steve Wlodkowski swlodkow@eecs.uic.edu
From: dhsmith@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX for the HP under NEXTSTEP ?
Date: 15 Jun 1994 18:05:55 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tnfu3$21p@rosie.next.com>
References: <2tn8is$25g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <2tn8is$25g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu
(Eric de la Tribouille) writes:
#Hello fellows !
#
#I was wondering if anybody had compiled LaTeX (Or TeX and the
other pd like
#TeXMenu and so one) under NEXTSTEP for the HP stations. I would
really
#appreciate a positive answer somewhere.
#
#Best regards,
#
# - Eric
#
#Opinion expressed is my own !
#-----------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
#Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric@ks.uiuc.edu
#NeXT sys. admin.
#University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
#Beckman Institute Theoretical Biophysics
#405 N. Mathews Ave. Urbana, IL 61801, USA
#Tel: (217) 244-1851 Fax: (217) 244-6078
#-----------------------------------------------------------------
From what the engineers have told me, the final version of
NEXTSTEP for HP PA-RISC should have TeX bundled, just as NS for
other platforms does. It did not get ported over in time to make
it onto the PR1 beta disks.
Darren
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Incomplete termcap entry
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 14:00:25 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UhyTitu00iV241cUke@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Jun8.091349.17808@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 8-Jun-94 Incomplete
termcap entry by therbert@umiami.ir.miami
> I have started to use Emacs as a terminal. When I activate
> a shell ("M-x shell), I get the following message:
>
> darwin> Warning: incomplete termcap entry. Editing disabled
>
> I am using the standard termcap file, etc. that came with
> NeXTstep/Intel 3.2. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
Yes. "M-x shell" provides just that, a dumb terminal interface.
You want to do "M-x terminal-emulator".
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Image thumbnailer reviews?
Date: 15 Jun 1994 19:29:02 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <2tnkpu$dpc@news.cerf.net>
References: <jbn.771697232@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
In article <jbn.771697232@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> >*** GEMSTONE SYSTEMS ANNOUNCES IMAGE CURATOR 1.0 ***
> >Cost: $125 per user.
>
> I just saw an article about a shareware Windows thumbnailer that cost
> $5 in the May '94 Computer Shopper (pages 610-611). I'd consider
> buying Image Curator, but $125 is unreasonable, in my opinion.
You simply don't get it, do you?
> Are there any NS image thumbnailers that are more reasonably priced
> (perhaps somewhere around $50), shareware, PD or commercial? Any
> reviews of them?
So, we're to assume that after all your time being quite active and vocal
in the NEXTSTEP end-user community (which consists of about 500 people,
give or take) that all of a sudden you realized that you need an image
thumbnailer, have *no* idea what's out there, and would like to do some
public comparison shopping? This couldn't possibly be yet one more
thinly-veiled commentary on NEXTSTEP software pricing, quality and support
issues could it? It takes an act of extreme bravery and no small leap of
faith to introduce an end-user app into the NEXTSTEP marketplace these
days, and I don't think torpedoing someone that does is a productive thing
to do.
I actually think $125 is a VERY reasonable price for Curator if it does
what Gemstone claims. I don't know of any products for NS that provide
similar capabilities. There are a few shareware/freeware thumbnailers that
don't perform terribly well and have very limited feature sets. Tiffany 2
includes an image database (and is one dynamite image processing app), but
that's probably out of the question for J.B. because Adobe Audition for
Macintosh has a street price of $149, and there's probably some shareware
bitmap editor for Windows that costs $35.
Perhaps J.B. should consider developing and marketing a combination image
thumbnailer and multi-threaded news reader. It has to be an extremely
solid app, with every feature known to man, and it must be small and
efficient. It must contain zero defects, have undergone 6 months of beta
testing by 100 firms, and already run on HP, Solaris/OpenStep, and some
other platform NeXT hasn't announced yet. It should cost no more than $75
(in my opinion, but I offer these opinions all the time so I must be
right), with an educational price of $5. I'm simply *sure* you'd sell
enough to make it worth your while. If you don't have the programming
background required (from the utter bulk of your posts over the last few
years I'm pretty sure you're convinced you have the marketing and
corporate management expertise required), I'm sure you can find a way to
pay NEXTSTEP contract programmers a reasonable wage. You'd no doubt get
the money back within a year while paying that full-time veteran tech
support staff and running ads in Byte, Wired and GQ bringing more
end-users to the platform.
Oh, and 2.0 will have to store its images and text in Enterprise Objects,
since the original audience will be using their NeXT cubes as combination
space heaters/pink noise generators/print servers hooked up to their
PowerMacs, and the new audience of transaction-processing end-users will
have to keep all their images and clipped news articles in the corporate
SQL server, since their Suns won't have enough local mass storage...
Follow-ups (if any) to .advocacy.
Gordon
--
Gordon Van Huizen gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
Metrosoft "ATM machines don't need word processors"
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does File Dragging & Copying Still work on 3.2 Intel??
Date: 15 Jun 1994 19:02:24 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2tnj81$23l@rosie.next.com>
References: <CrFCHF.Mws@cunews.carleton.ca>
In article <CrFCHF.Mws@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris
Saldanha) writes:
> Only the LEFT Alt key assumes the role of the NeXT Command key. The
RIGHT
> Alt key is still Alt.
>
> All of the dragging options are still available. (CTRL=link, ALT=copy,
> CMD=move)
>
> What bugs me is that I cannot hole down CMD and up/down arrow with one
> hand anymore on intel h/w, leaving the other free for the mouse. I keep
. .
> Could I switch the ALT and CMD keys using a keymapping? I never thought
> of that before...
>
> --Chris
> Chris Saldanha
Try the NeXTUSA Keymapping - it makes both your Alt keys into command
keys, both control keys into alt, and the Caps Lock key into the control
key. On a standard 101 key keyboard, this mimics the next keyboard layout
Hope this helps,
-Mark
[[myDisclaimer alloc] init];
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: shortcomings of f2c (was Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 15:28:45 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4hzpNhm00iUyI5QORk@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Jun15.165341.12629@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 15-Jun-94 Re: shortcomings
of f2c (wa.. by Michal Jaegermann:
> '-O' optimization in gcc (and NeXT cc) is pretty weak - on purpose.
> If you are serious about optimizing then at least '-O2' should be
> used and there is a couple of other flags still not covered by that.
> They are described in docs.
You need to use '-O1' explicitly to get lower optimization then the
default of '-O' on the Intel platform (at least for NS 3.2). Also:
"The options -O3 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fschedule-insns2 generally
produce the best code. To simplify the interface, -O4 will be
eliminated as a distinct option and -fschedule-insns2 will be added to
-O3."
Replacing '-fno-omit-frame-pointer' with '-fomit-frame-pointer' will
produce still better code at the expense of making the resulting code
undebuggable.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: THE GREAT NeXT ICON PUZZLER: => ? PS ICON -- WHY?????
Date: 15 Jun 1994 19:56:10 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2tnmcq$imf@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
For reasons known only to genuine NeXTsperts (I hope!!) all my icons
for ps files --- whatever the source, be it created by dvips, downloaded,
you name it --- all now read
PS?
This doesn't affect function to my knowledge, and inspector tellms me that
preview is set to open the files and does, but it is a bad foreboding.
Any help is much appreciated.
Sincerely,
Lones A. Smith
Department of Economics, MIT
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: 3.2 Developer off CD??
Message-ID: <1994Jun15.155524.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 20:55:24 GMT
I've got a copy of 3.2/FIP on it's way and I'm curious if there's a way to run
the developer tools off the CD. I have the disk space to install it, but it
will severely limit my space for other apps.
Any suggestions?
Scott Davenport
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <CrGFJJ.1Euu@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 19:59:43 GMT
References: <2tkv48INNa8j@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
In article <2tkv48INNa8j@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu
(Eric S. Boltz) writes:
> kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes
> please call ... Wood Lotz at absoft, 313 853 0095.
>
>
>
> Does wood have an email address ? :)
>
> -E
i'm glad you asked!
wlz@absoft.com
email away!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <CrGFq8.1H7J@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 20:03:44 GMT
References: <2tl4j9$c04@network.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
> HP does of course. Maybe one ought to try to convince *them*---it's
> a matter of changing link formats and debugging information, but still
> that's less effort than writing and debugging a new architecture target.
the HP sales representatives i have spoken with have given me
the impression that HP is absolutely not even considering doing
a fortran compiler for NeXTSTEP.
can anyone else comment?
kelley
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Date: 19 Jun 1994 06:30:45 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2u1ha5$ms@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2tg41v$5dc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <CrBEH4.Lrv@trwlasd.com> <jbn.771522243@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <hm0zYGI.jhepp@delphi.com>
Jeff Hepp writes:
>Getting back to the original question... Frame told me that they were no
>longer upgrading FrameMaker for blk but are currently evaluating
>white possibilities. Don't hold your breath. Jeff Hepp.
OK, you can exhale now.
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: THE GREAT NeXT ICON PUZZLER: => ? PS ICON -- WHY?????
Date: 15 Jun 1994 20:24:46 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2tno2e$kgo@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2tnmcq$imf@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Lones A. Smith <lones@lones.mit.edu> writes:
> For reasons known only to genuine NeXTsperts (I hope!!) all my icons
> for ps files --- whatever the source, be it created by dvips, downloaded,
> you name it --- all now read
>
> PS?
Was OmniImage.app recently installed on your system? I believe it maps *.ps
files and provides the icon you describe -- I recall seeing a similar effect
when I installed it.
- Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland)
Subject: Re: Does File Dragging & Copying Still work on 3.2 Intel??
Message-ID: <CrGGJ3.AEH@agedwards.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 20:21:03 GMT
References: <CrFCHF.Mws@cunews.carleton.ca>
Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc.
Chris Saldanha (csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca) wrote:
[...story of hand contortions removed...]
: Could I switch the ALT and CMD keys using a keymapping? I never thought
: of that before...
Sure. That was the first thing I did, actually. I have one that I
can make available if there's enough demand.
-cj
--
==============================================================================
Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us
BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com
| BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Image thumbnailer reviews?
Date: 15 Jun 94 20:47:13 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.771713233@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
I've received a ton of responses all directing me to various software
(both on Windows *and* NS). Thanks to all who answered my question.
--
No NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.msdos,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Unix/DOS Serial I/O
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 15:03:34 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jun15.150334.23322@bilver.oau.org>
References: <Cr8M6n.4yE@csn.org>
In article <Cr8M6n.4yE@csn.org>, Barry D. McQuain <mcquain@teal.csn.org> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am having a problem sending data from a NeXT computer to a PC via a serial
>cable. Using C, the app on the NeXT sends the data out its serial port
>(9600, n, 8, 1 - defaults) and the PC recieves it. Unfortunately, the
>high order bit gets "set" somehow on some of the data, and the PC is having
>trouble receiving this "non-ascii" (>128) data.
>
>For example, If I send the letter "A" (ASCII 65), the PC receives "A" (ASCII
>65). If I send the letter "C" (ASCII 67), the PC receives ASCII 195. This
>happens on commas and carriage returns (13 becomes 141), etc. Unfortunately,
>The PC program that is trying to receive this data is written in Basic, and
>it reads in the data using INPUT commands, and since it never sees a comma
>or a carriage return, it hangs.
>
>I am looking for a solution. The few suggestions so far have been:
>
>1) Send data using 7 bits. How do I do this from the NeXT side (using C).
>2) ASCII mask the data as you send it ... This hasn't worked so far. Does
> anyone know how to "fiddle" with the C to do this? (ioctl.h maybe?)
>3) Rewrite the Basic in C. Can't, becasue its not my program and it is
> about 4000 lines.
>
Somewhere along the line one machine or the other is using
parity where it shouldn't be.
A = 65 = 0100 0001
C = 67 = 0100 0011
C with high bit = 195 = 1100 0011
Sounds like you are transmitting as even parity, so that a parity
bit is added to make the number of 1's transmitted come out to
an even number
You mentioned someone said mask the data as you send it. If
the problem is sending side, that is not going work, as your
data is already effectively 7bits when you deliver it to the
serial handler.
Mask it on the receive side. I had one real pisser (on an old
System III on a Zilog Z8000) that had some really strange
problems. It was not set for parity, but it added it anyway,
and when it found the 8th bit high, it sign extended and made
bits 8-15 high so 1/2 of the data transmitted came out as
negative numbers.
Your PC comm program should be able to handle this. Tell it to
ignore parity. If your program doesn't do this, there are
others that do.
--
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is wierd
Message-ID: <1994Jun11.195040.21202@cs.rit.edu>
Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin)
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY
References: <2t8o1m$fmg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1994Jun10.213001.7818@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 19:50:40 GMT
>> I've been running NewsGrazer R3.0 V75 over a term-connected modem line
>> daily since it first appeared and have NEVER seen it crash.
>
>Maybe I can help narrow down the problem. NewsGrazer 75 would crash as
>described by many quite a bit prior to our use of nntp. When we "used flat
>files" and mounted the spool directory and /usr/lib/news across our network,
>etc.. we experienced NewsGrazer crashing frequently. This crashing seemed
>related to our newsfeed occasionaly sending us articles out of sync. I could
>clean this up by scrubbing/patching user's .newsrc file and deleting the out of
>sync articles from the spool directories.
>
>Since we switched from running just C-news/NewsGrazer to
>running C-News/nntp/NewsGrazer, the crashing problem has disappeared.
Great, I would love to try that out. How do you do you run cnews, and nntp
over term.
thanks
Harry
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.hp.misc
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Date: 15 Jun 1994 21:03:28 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <2tnqb0$g1c@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <CrGFq8.1H7J@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <CrGFq8.1H7J@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu writes:
> > HP does of course. Maybe one ought to try to convince *them*---it's
> > a matter of changing link formats and debugging information, but still
> > that's less effort than writing and debugging a new architecture
target.
>
> the HP sales representatives i have spoken with have given me
> the impression that HP is absolutely not even considering doing
> a fortran compiler for NeXTSTEP.
>
> can anyone else comment?
>
> kelley
I just spoke with our NeXT govt. sales rep (Barry Leffew in McLean Va.)
and he said that there are many NeXT seats that use Fortran and that he
would be speaking with NeXT and Absoft about our compiler concerns. Our
HP rep still has not returned my call (surprise!:)) In the meantime he
said that one solution would be to use Portable Distributed Objects,
making use of the HP server Fortran compiler. This would run around
$1900. (with GSA discounts) but is not really satisfactory for my group.
We have precious little NEXTSTEP programming support as it is (but most of
us can muddle by in Fortran) Hopefully this will be discussed at NEXTSTEP
EXPO NeXT week and something will be announced or done!
Wish I could go:(
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: tkonishi@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Tetsuro KONISHI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: making ispell-3.1
Date: 20 Jun 94 00:36:10
Organization: R-lab., Dept. of Phys., Nagoya University, Japan
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <TKONISHI.94Jun20003610@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
References: <TKONISHI.94Jun16181335@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
In-reply-to: tkonishi@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp's message of 16 Jun 94 18:13:35
In responce to my question, Mr. Geoff Kuenning gave me
the following suggesion;
>>From: geoff@FICUS.CS.UCLA.EDU (Geoff Kuenning)
>>Message-Id: <9406161911.AA28398@exeter.cs.ucla.edu>
>>To: tkonishi@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp
>>Subject: Re: Q: making ispell-3.1
>>Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
>>In-Reply-To: <TKONISHI.94Jun16181335@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
>>Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
>>
>>In article <TKONISHI.94Jun16181335@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp> you write:
>>
>> > In fact, the file 'american.lrg+' is vacant;
>>
>> The american.lrg+ file becomes zero-length when munchlist fails.
>> Usually this is caused by aborting a previous make (in ispell versions
>> prior to patch level 8) or by forgetting to set TMPDIR.
>>
>> Remove languages/american/american.lrg+ and languages/american/english.lrg+.
>> Then set the TMPDIR environment variable to point to a directory with
>> at least 40 MB of free space, and re-run the make.
Thank Geoff. However, the suggesion did not solve my trouble.
(I cited his mail so that it may help somebody else.)
Then I examined the Makefile, and linked the 'english.aff' file by hand;
allegro[24]> ls -l languages/american/english.aff
lrwxrwxrwx 1 tkonishi 22 Jun 17 20:37 languages/american/english.aff@ -> ../english/english.aff
Re-running 'make all' gave no erros and now ispell seems to be working fine.
--
Tetsuro KONISHI, R-lab., Dept. of Phys.,Nagoya Univ.,Nagoya,464-01, Japan
tel: +81-52-789-2438; FAX: +81-52-789-2932
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.2 Developer off CD??
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 18:02:49 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Mhzre9_00iV6E5rpps@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Jun15.155524.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 15-Jun-94 3.2 Developer
off CD?? by sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-te
> I've got a copy of 3.2/FIP on it's way and I'm curious if there's a way to
> run the developer tools off the CD. I have the disk space to install it,
> but it will severely limit my space for other apps.
I'd suggest installing the DeveloperLibs.pkg and the DeveloperTools.pkg,
and leave the docs on the CD. Trying to develop with things like the
libraries and the header files on the CD would probably be way too slow.
This may be a reasonable trade-off between speed (as finding documents
is going to be slower, but that's more tolerable) and space, but your
mileage may vary.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Date: 15 Jun 1994 22:24:09 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tnv2a$9fl@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1994Jun10.160551.10611@nidat.sub.org>
Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes:
[skipping other people's descriptions of NG crashes]
> You don't tell which version you're running, but there are several
> ways how this effect can be provoked:
>
> In v75 NG crashes when "Catch up" is pressed before all articles
> of the group are sorted. Work around: be patient...
>
> In v72 this can happen when NG hits an article that has a buggy
> header structure. Work around: Manually scan for bad headers and
> repair in Edit, or edit .newsrc to mark the incriminated article
> as read.
Note that v75 can also crash when it hits certain kinds of
buggy headers. Seems to me I've hit it on articles where
the "Lines:" information (in the header of the article) is
clearly stupid.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jmm@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed texinfo files in Emacs.app distribution?
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 22:54:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <940615155413.3614AABqK.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Jun12131619@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1994Jun13.073339.14125@abulafia.in-berlin.de> <CEDMAN.94Jun14094731@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
> Subject: Re: Compressed texinfo files in Emacs.app distribution?
>
> In article <1994Jun13.073339.14125@abulafia.in-berlin.de>
volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) writes:
> Emacs info doesn't work with gzipped info files for me. It only shows
> "no more nodes" if i try it. What's wrong? I would like to have this
> feature, too, 'cause I'm always short on diskspace.
>
> Are you by any chance running 3.0 and don't have gunzip installed (or
> don't have it in the path) ? Or do you have some local or private
> elisp files installed including possibly a version of info which
> shadows the version which comes with Emacs for NS ? Finally, have you
> tried running Emacs info without an ~/.emacs file, with your dwrites
> removed and without the INFOPATH or PATH environment variables set ?
> (In particular the later steps are warmly suggested to all the people
> who have strange problems with Emacs -- half of them seem to go away
> in that case).
>
> Carl Edman
I first raised this question a few days ago...I just found the solution to
*my* problem based on Carl's advice.
My problem was that I was "appending" rather than "consing" my
.../emacs/19.22/lisp directory onto my load-path, so I had a "shadow" version
(i.e., old) of info.elc being used instead of the new 19.22 version (and of
many other things, too, no doubt...I have to go clean out my
/usr/local/lib/emacs/lisp directory!).
Another small fix I had to make: the default Info-suffix-list variable did not
include specifications for .gz files.
Now it's working. Thanks to all who helped!
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ftp.stepwise.com - Re: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de drops commercial support
Date: 11 Jun 1994 18:24:21 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tddil$gkd@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <2t8vm3$2g8@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
Michael McCulloch writes
> The excellent Munich ftp site has dropped support of commercial
> apps. I don't mean to be an alarmist, but given the situation,
> the Internet was about the last site a NEXTSTEP developer can
> advertise his/her wares. No magazine, now no archive support.
>
> How about a world-wide fund drive to get ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
> back in the game? 2 GB disks are less than $2K nowdays...
ftp.stepwise.com is available for ftp, in about 3 weeks, we hope to
have our ISDN connection in, which will mean reasonable bandwidth..
Third party software will certainly be one of our primary focus points.
, but freeware and shareware stuff will also be available.
There will be a high level of interaction with the WWW site, and our
mailserver software as well.
In the meantime, if you want to get your commercial apps in now, feel
free to email the demos to my at sanguish@digifix.com
Comments and suggestions are welcome.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: THE GREAT NeXT ICON PUZZLER: => ? PS ICON -- WHY?????
Date: 15 Jun 1994 23:22:45 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2to2g5$i5g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <2tnmcq$imf@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <2tno2e$kgo@nntp2.stanford.edu>
Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU wrote...
>Lones A. Smith <lones@lones.mit.edu> writes:
>> For reasons known only to genuine NeXTsperts (I hope!!) all my icons
>> for ps files --- whatever the source, be it created by dvips, downloaded,
>> you name it --- all now read
>>
>> PS?
>
>Was OmniImage.app recently installed on your system? I believe it maps *.ps
>files and provides the icon you describe -- I recall seeing a similar effect
>when I installed it.
Opener.app does the exact thing described here, I believe. I should
know... I designed that icon!
Joe
--
| NeXTMail OK! | I spent twelve quarters working towards my degree, and |
| ________ | all I got was this lousy .sig! |
| | |__) | ======================================================== |
| (_|OE| \EISS | - Me |
From: darren@inherent.com (Inherent Network Admin Center)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Memory Leaks: What are they?
Date: 15 Jun 1994 17:30:55 GMT
Organization: Internetworks, Inc.
Distribution: USA
Message-ID: <2tndsg$dps@pdx1.world.net>
Keywords: memory leaks
Gentle Readers,
I am rather new to the business of System Administration and
have a question concerning a recent issue I have faced: memory leaks.
I have just started to get deep into the technical issues for both
Unix and NEXTSTEP and do not fully understand the concept of a memory
leak. I lack a firm definition of what one is and how they work. My
understanding does not go far beyond the beleif that it is linked
with sporadic and untamed malloc calls.
One of the systems that I am monitoring is apparently being
effected by this type of bug. Within five days of a reboot the swap
file has jumped from the normal 16.7 to over 40 megabytes. It is
believed to be linked to the Front Desk application, but we have no
way to detect this for sure. Does anyone know of a way to detect
memory leaks? Has anyone else ever witness this problem either with
Front Desk or with other applications?
I would appreciate any information, especially further
documentation that I may research concerning detection and prevention
of memory leaks.
Thanks in advance
--
Darren McKee - Technical Staff | darren@inherent.com
Network Administration Center | Tel.: 503-224-6751
Inherent Technologies, Inc. | Fax: 503-224-8872
2140 SW Jefferson St. Suite 130 | sysadmin@inherent.com
Portland, Oregon USA 97201 |
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 18:20:05 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UhzWoJO00iUx86HNAo@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2tl4j9$c04@network.ucsd.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 14-Jun-94 Re: FORTRAN for
NeXTSTEP - HP by Matt Kennel@inls1.ucsd.e
> This ought to make us feel grateful for just what benefit GNU CC has
> provided for everyone.
Definitely.
> I presume the problem with "f2c" is in debugging?
Or lost of floating-point precision.
Or loss of speed. There's a lot of pretty highly optimized Fortran code
out there for doing computationally intense work, and that optimization
tends to be lost with f2c.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: swlodkow@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Steve Wlodkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb config question
Date: 14 Jun 1994 22:48:54 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Message-ID: <2tlc4m$nln@news.eecs.uic.edu>
I'm having a bit of a problem getting OmniWeb running. Any
kind soul got a suggestion? It's got to be something obvious,
but I haven't figured it out.
I've not been able to access any internet hosts through the
browser. For example:
Inside the OmniWeb.app/Start.html, I doubleClick <Omni Development, Inc.>.
I get the message "Making HTTP connection to www.omnigroup.com".
The world turns for about a minute.
I get the message "Unable to connect to remote host."
...and that's it.
I'm running 3.2 on a standalone white host and slipping into the internet
through school. I'm able to do an nslookup on www.omnigroup.com. Just
can't connect.
Any advice appreciated. I'll even take flames if I'm missing something
really obvious. Thanks.
Regards,
Steve Wlodkowski swlodkow@eecs.uic.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: Address & Phone # for Anderson Financial
Message-ID: <1994Jun14.150213.511@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <1994Jun11.182901.8809@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 15:02:13 GMT
In article <1994Jun11.182901.8809@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org
(Robert B. Love ) writes:
> Two weeks ago I read my credit card number over the phone for
> my upgrade to Paste-Up. Haven't heard a word from AFS. Anybody
> got their phone # handy?
>
> I'm sure they're caught up in the pre-NeXTPO rush but if they've
> charged my card then they should've shipped the product.
We NEVER NEVER NEVER bill credit cards until the UPS guy actually carries
your order to his truck. Your number's safe with us.
We're not caught in a pre-Expo rush, we're caught in a beta crunch. A
PasteUp beta tester found a last-minute doozy that was too serious to
ignore before mastering, and then the WriteUp beta period kicked in and
uncovered a few more items that we deemed worth fixing before final
release. We're serious about shipping a stable product with no ugly bugs,
so we held it. If the version we're now testing in-house passes muster,
it will go to the duplicators this week, and we'll be shipping next week.
Oh, yeah: our phone number is 215 653 0911, if you still need us.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network
Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer
Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: Re: Is Standard Unix [cut] and [paste] available on NeXT ?
Message-ID: <Cr9821.E6z@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <2t51jj$5ea@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> <Cr58Gt.3tM@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 22:34:49 GMT
In article <Cr58Gt.3tM@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>,
Michael Friendly <friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca> wrote:
>Archie on 'cut' gives a whole bunch of sites which carry a BSD 4.3 (I think)
>version of cut which is much more useful than colrm (allows delimiters,
>e.g.). These use a version of make and makefiles which do no work on the
>NeXT. Has anyone compiled this cut?
You're probably better off trying the GNU version, available in
prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/textutils-1.9.tar.gz. It compiles
painlessly.
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
From: mharrop@interlog.com (Matt Harrop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: POP or IMAP NeXTMail client software
Date: 15 Jun 1994 21:35:55 -0400
Organization: InterLog Internet Services
Message-ID: <2toa9r$lbq@gold.interlog.com>
I have a client that accesses my system using SLIP on a NeXTStation. He
has been using UUCP until now for e-mail. He would like to keep using
NeXTMail. I have both POP and IMAP servers running. Are there any POP or
IMAP clients for the NeXT that will allow him to continue using NeXTMail?
I've never used a NeXT so I have no idea what NeXTMail is; I'd be happy to
be enlightened.
Cheers,
--
Matt Harrop mharrop@interlog.com
InterLog Internet Services voice (416) 537-7453 fax (416) 532-5015
Online Publishing, Marketing, and Support on the Internet
Coming in July -- Lowest Cost Dial-Up Internet Connectivity in Toronto
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Date: 11 Jun 1994 05:37:40 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Message-ID: <2tbij4$2rm@news.iastate.edu>
References: <2t7ajj$dg3@inxs.concert.net> <2t8bok$e9@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com>
Keywords: And don't take "No" for an answer!
In article <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com>, <Jayson Adams> wrote:
>In article <2t8bok$e9@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl>, Annard Brouwer writes:
>> Please Jayson Adams, when will NewsGrazer Pro come out?
>>
>
>When NeXT released the fat NG, they basically told the world that they're
>supporting the app. Everyone using NG should demand that NeXT fix the bugs
>and add features. And don't forget to ask for a tri-fat version.
Jayson:
Are you saying that NewsGrazer Pro is dropped? That would be a
great loss to the community. BTW, I thought NeXT said the FAT
NewsGrazer75 is not supported. Is that true? Can someone clairify
this?
Thanks.
Chris
--
NeXTMail super welcomed!!|
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
<:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Message-ID: <1994Jun15.203423.5780@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <jbn.771353964@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk> <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 20:34:23 GMT
In article <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com> Jayson Adams writes:
>In article <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk>, Dave Griffiths writes:
>> Now what were NeXT supposed
>> to do with it? In the interests of a "level playing field", they couldn't
>> release the source or it will have killed off any chance of a commercial
>> newsreader appearing.
>
>NeXT doesn't care about third parties or "level playing fields." Their
>releasing a MAB version has killed off any chance of a commerial app.
>
>> They couldn't drop support altogether because with no alternative
>> available,
>
>Uh, people survived for many months without it, and NGPro was announced and
>scheduled to ship in Q1, '94.
But if it wasn't due to public pressure, why _did_ they release a MAB version?
You're not suggesting they just did it out of spite?
Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Re: Does File Dragging & Copying Still work on 3.2 Intel??
Message-ID: <CrGFwp.1LE@trapac.com>
Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation
References: <CrFCHF.Mws@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 20:07:36 GMT
In article <CrFCHF.Mws@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca
(Chris Saldanha) writes:
> What bugs me is that I cannot hole down CMD and up/down
> arrow with one hand anymore on intel h/w, leaving the
> other free for the mouse. I keep a bigass file viewer
> window with lots of shelf space. It inevitably covers
> most other windows when in front. When dropping a file
> into another app (like Mail, Edit) I used to drag the
> file out of the File Viewer, and hold it while using the
> other hand to CMD-Arrow through my other windows until
> I found the 'drop' window. I can reach my fingers more
> than one octave on a piano, but my fingers just can't
> make LEFT-ALT-DOWNARROW.
>
> Could I switch the ALT and CMD keys using a keymapping?
> I never thought of that before...
Using Preferences pick the NextUSA Key mapping. This maps the intel
keyboard to be the same as original black hardware. This, and a
keyboard with moveable key caps, has allowed me to keep my sanity
while working on non-black hardware.
--
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
[My opinions are my own]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Re: An answer to various NewsGrazer woes
Message-ID: <1994Jun14.144011.13164@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <Cr6JCC.DJ@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:40:11 GMT
Juergen Sell writes
>
> Sorry, this will probably not be the ultimate answer to all of your
NewsGrazer woes but it may help
> you on some anyway.
>
> I found that when NewsGrazer crashes on opening a group I can avoid this
crashing (always?) by
> deactivating Prefetch and Sort. This has worked several times - guarantees
excluded.
>
> Good luck, Juergen
>
My NewsGrazer woes went away when I set up a news server in the office and
changed NewsGrazer from using flat files to nntp. (Knock on wood.)
Your mileage will vary. Prohibited were void.
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual
or traditional: EXTREME
From: sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Date: 16 Jun 1994 06:45:39 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tosej$2o1@rosie.next.com>
References: <2tnv2a$9fl@usenet.rpi.edu>
gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
> Note that v75 can also crash when it hits certain kinds of
> buggy headers. Seems to me I've hit it on articles where
> the "Lines:" information (in the header of the article) is
> clearly stupid.
Uh, it reads up to 8K of a header into a 4K buffer.
(Don't ask. Really.)
-sam
--
Opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer. They're not even
mine. They're probably wrong besides. How did they get in here, anyway?
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP or IMAP NeXTMail client software
Date: 16 Jun 1994 06:58:36 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2tot6s$t3u@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <2toa9r$lbq@gold.interlog.com>
In article <2toa9r$lbq@gold.interlog.com> mharrop@interlog.com (Matt
Harrop) writes:
>
> Are there any POP or IMAP clients for the NeXT that will allow him
> to continue using NeXTMail?
Yes, PopOver.app on cs.orst.edu:
/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.1.FAT.compressed
--
Brent Swekla "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca the day after tomorrow" - Mark Twain
From: starksm@genesis.mcs.com (Scott M. Stark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Archie update
Date: 16 Jun 1994 07:15:58 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tou7e$kdm@News1.mcs.com>
Keywords: Archie
Archie version 2.14, June 16 1994
-rw-rw-r-- 1 me 492403 Jun 16 01:49 Archie_214.tar.gz
sum Archie_214.tar.gz -> 46839 481
Location: cs.orst.edu
Path: pub/next/submissions or pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info
Enhancements:
1. The FTP serverices items now parse the following formats:
hostname
hostname:path
ftp://ftpHostname/path
Leading and trailing white space characters are removed.
2. Added FTP transfer completion sound and the ability to set
the sounds from the general preferences panel.
Bug fixes:
1. Setting the Archie server timeout now works.
2. Raw FTP log panel of ftpd responses can now be displayed at
any time after any FTP action.
--
Scott Stark
Stark International Software
4950 N. Marine Dr.
#102
Chicago, IL 60640
starksm@genesis.mcs.com (NeXT mail accepted)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Executor and .msw files
Date: 16 Jun 1994 09:36:32 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tp6f0$rhv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
When one double clicks on a .msw file, this should start up Executor, run
Word under Executor, and open the .msw file under Word. Is this correct?
All that happens for me is that Executor starts up and puts up a find
panel, asking me to choose an application. It does not run Word and does
not open my .msw file. Can anybody give me suggestions?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
By the way, I _can_ get Word to start up under executor when I double
click on Microsoft Word.appl. I've got Word 5.1a and Executor 1.3.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: BBS software?
Message-ID: <1994Jun16.041231.15302@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 04:12:31 GMT
I'm pretty sure this has been asked before but I can't find the answer.
Does any software exist for the NeXT to run a BBS?
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
BIX: rlove
-----------------------------------------------------------------
From: kc@yucca.omnigroup.com (Ken Case)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: THE GREAT NeXT ICON PUZZLER: => ? PS ICON -- WHY?????
Date: 16 Jun 1994 00:46:55 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2tp01f$1fl@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2tnmcq$imf@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <2tno2e$kgo@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU writes:
>Lones A. Smith <lones@lones.mit.edu> writes:
>> For reasons known only to genuine NeXTsperts (I hope!!) all my icons
>> for ps files --- whatever the source, be it created by dvips, downloaded,
>> you name it --- all now read
>>
>> PS?
>Was OmniImage.app recently installed on your system? I believe it maps *.ps
>files and provides the icon you describe -- I recall seeing a similar effect
>when I installed it.
>- Christopher
OmniImage neither maps *.ps files nor provides the icon described.
Lones, you might try pulling up the Tools Inspector in workspace and
see what applications offer to open your .ps file. Presumably, one of
those is the culprit.
Good luck!
Ken
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What (if anything) are people using to play AIFF files?
Date: 16 Jun 1994 15:29:38 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2tpr52$h7h@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Life would be so much easier if WWW providers would stick to
audio/basic, sigh.
The attached shell script works *slowly* on Black Hardware.
I'm using sox patchlevel 11 and MusicKit 4.0's resample.
[I really should toss a few "trap" commands in there...]
This is good enough for Mosaic--does anyone have something that
will satisfy OmniWeb?
-=EPS=-
-------
#!/bin/sh
case $# in
1) ;;
*) echo "Usage: $0 file" >&2; exit 1 ;;
esac
sox -t aiff $1 /tmp/aiff$$.snd||exit $?
eval `sndinfo /tmp/aiff$$.snd|while read key value rest; do
case $key in
Format\:) echo BITS=$value ;;
SamplingRate\:) echo SRATE=$value ;;
*) ;;
esac
done`
case ${BITS?} in
16) ;;
*) mv /tmp/aiff$$.snd /tmp/oaiff$$.snd
sndconvert -o /tmp/aiff$$.snd -f 3 /tmp/oaiff$$.snd
rm -f /tmp/oaiff$$.snd ;;
esac
case ${SRATE?} in
48000.000) FACTOR=.91875 ;;
32000.000) FACTOR=1.378125 ;;
22254.000) FACTOR=.9908331 ;;
22050.000|44100.000) sndplay /tmp/aiff$$.snd
exec rm -f /tmp/aiff$$.snd ;;
16000.000) FACTOR=1.378125 ;;
11127.000) FACTOR=1.981666 ;;
11025.000) FACTOR=2 ;;
8012.000) FACTOR=2.7521218 ;;
8000.000) FACTOR=2.75625 ;;
7417.000) FACTOR=2.9729 ;;
esac
resample -b $FACTOR /tmp/aiff$$.snd /tmp/play$$.snd
rm -f /tmp/aiff$$.snd
sndplay /tmp/play$$.snd
exec rm -f /tmp/play$$.snd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Compressed texinfo files in Emacs.app distribution?
In-Reply-To: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de's message of Mon, 13 Jun 1994 07:33:39 GMT
To: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun14094731@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CEDMAN.94Jun12131619@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<1994Jun13.073339.14125@abulafia.in-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 13:47:31 GMT
In article <1994Jun13.073339.14125@abulafia.in-berlin.de> volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) writes:
Emacs info doesn't work with gzipped info files for me. It only shows
"no more nodes" if i try it. What's wrong? I would like to have this
feature, too, 'cause I'm always short on diskspace.
Are you by any chance running 3.0 and don't have gunzip installed (or
don't have it in the path) ? Or do you have some local or private
elisp files installed including possibly a version of info which
shadows the version which comes with Emacs for NS ? Finally, have you
tried running Emacs info without an ~/.emacs file, with your dwrites
removed and without the INFOPATH or PATH environment variables set ?
(In particular the later steps are warmly suggested to all the people
who have strange problems with Emacs -- half of them seem to go away
in that case).
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.msdos,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland)
Subject: Re: Unix/DOS Serial I/O
Message-ID: <CrHvKD.K7E@agedwards.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:43:25 GMT
References: <1994Jun15.150334.23322@bilver.oau.org>
Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.msdos,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Bill Vermillion (bill@bilver.oau.org) wrote:
: In article <Cr8M6n.4yE@csn.org>, Barry D. McQuain <mcquain@teal.csn.org> wrote:
: >I am having a problem sending data from a NeXT computer to a PC via a serial
: >cable. Using C, the app on the NeXT sends the data out its serial port
: >(9600, n, 8, 1 - defaults) and the PC recieves it. Unfortunately, the
: >high order bit gets "set" somehow on some of the data, and the PC is having
: >trouble receiving this "non-ascii" (>128) data.
: >
: >For example, If I send the letter "A" (ASCII 65), the PC receives "A" (ASCII
: >65). If I send the letter "C" (ASCII 67), the PC receives ASCII 195. This
: >happens on commas and carriage returns (13 becomes 141), etc. Unfortunately,
: >The PC program that is trying to receive this data is written in Basic, and
: >it reads in the data using INPUT commands, and since it never sees a comma
: >or a carriage return, it hangs.
: >
: >I am looking for a solution. The few suggestions so far have been:
: >
: >1) Send data using 7 bits. How do I do this from the NeXT side (using C).
: >2) ASCII mask the data as you send it ... This hasn't worked so far. Does
: > anyone know how to "fiddle" with the C to do this? (ioctl.h maybe?)
: >3) Rewrite the Basic in C. Can't, becasue its not my program and it is
: > about 4000 lines.
: >
: Somewhere along the line one machine or the other is using
: parity where it shouldn't be.
: A = 65 = 0100 0001
: C = 67 = 0100 0011
: C with high bit = 195 = 1100 0011
: Sounds like you are transmitting as even parity, so that a parity
: bit is added to make the number of 1's transmitted come out to
: an even number
: Mask it on the receive side. [...]
: Your PC comm program should be able to handle this. Tell it to
: ignore parity. If your program doesn't do this, there are
: others that do.
Except that ignoring parity on the receive side doesn't do anything
to get you the original character. Parity is added at the send side,
and only checked at the receive side. Old, crude, error detection
mechanism.
To turn off parity generation on the NeXT side, a piece of code
similar to the following should work. For more info, consult
tty(4).
#import <sgtty.h>
int
turn_off_parity_generation(int fd)
{
struct sgttyb ts;
if (fd > 0)
{
if (ioctl(fd, TIOCGETP, &ts) == -1)
return -1;
ts.sg_flags &= ~(EVENP | ODDP);
if (ioctl(fd, TIOCSETP, &ts) == -1)
return -1;
return 0;
}
return -1;
}
You may also wish to investigate the RAW mode if you have to
receive characters back on the NeXT end.
-cj
--
==============================================================================
Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us
BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com
| BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: THE GREAT NeXT ICON PUZZLER: => ? PS ICON -- WHY?????
Date: 16 Jun 1994 16:56:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2tq079$t93@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2tp01f$1fl@yucca.omnigroup.com>
In Ken Case <kc@yucca.omnigroup.com> writes:
> OmniImage neither maps *.ps files nor provides the icon described.
Yes, further reflection on the matter confirmed Joe Reiss' followup that it is
Opener that remapped the *.ps files to the new icon on my system (I installed
the latest Opener and OmniImage the same day which was the source of my
confusion.) From Lones' description (via Email) of the potential owners in his
Tools Inspector, it was also Opener causing his icon change.
Remapping perfectly good icons is whole 'nother issue, of course!
- Christopher
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: CDPlayer, again...
Date: 15 Jun 1994 03:07:33 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tlr9l$6oo@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
I know we have been over this about once a week for the past few years
but I am having a problem with the CDPlayer.app on my next cube.
This is the first time I have had the chance to work with an apple
cdrom drive, something that is actually documented to work with NextStep
out of the box. Anyway, I have the SCSI ID of the CDRom drive set to 2
and the permissions are correctly set on CDPlayer, I believe anyway...
I get the following:
cdutil: sendCommand error:Sense key: 5, code: 24
the more complex messages are :
sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x84
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x84
SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label)
sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x84
SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label)
sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x84
SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label)
DISK UNFORMATTED
Disk is Write Protected
sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x43 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
Would anyone out there care to address this issue just one
more time?
thanks!
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Donald F. Bora | | |
The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O |
Northwestern University | (--|--)
Evanston, Ill | |
e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Not NeXTMail) | / \
work: (708) 467-1014 |
--------Be excellent to each other--------
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: music software with MIDI capability
Date: 19 Jun 1994 22:00:57 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2u2f6p$1lm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Is there any music software available to allow me to link my NeXT up with
my MIDI keyboard? As far as I can tell from reading the newsgroups, the
only music composition software available is MusicKit, and it does not do
MIDI. Am I correct?
I really would hate to have to regress down to the level of owning a Mac
again, just to get MIDI capability.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: find_file in Emacs4.0
In-Reply-To: jzinn@math.tamu.edu's message of 14 Jun 1994 14:08:38 GMT
To: jzinn@math.tamu.edu (Joel Zinn)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun14172853@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2tkdl6$ral@news.tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 21:28:52 GMT
In article <2tkdl6$ral@news.tamu.edu> jzinn@math.tamu.edu (Joel Zinn) writes:
I installed Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.0 twice and the same thing happened both
times. After a while when I try to find a file using C-x C-f a NeXT window pops
up that looks similar to windows appearing when one is using open in, say,
Edit. However, this on has the Emacs gnu on it. I can then use this to find the
file. How do I disable this? I prefer to use the standard Emacs `find file' and
dired. I am running on Black 3.0.
The standard Emacs file requester is the default. If you get the
NeXTstep file requester you must have explicitly requested it at some
time. To turn it off:
dwrite Emacs UseOpenPanel NO
or equivalently in your ~/.emacs:
(setq ns-use-open-panel nil)
For the details on this and all the other defaults which determine the
user setable behavior of Emacs for NS, use the "Info/Info about
Emacs for NS" menu item and check under "Defaults".
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: emstech@music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician)
Subject: What exactly is wrong with NS3.0 AppleTalk ?
Message-ID: <1994Jun16.194354.18946@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 19:43:54 GMT
I want to mount our Macs on the NeXT and I have notice that there is a
nice utility that came with NS3.0 (AppleTalk) that should the job.
Now everybody is telling me that it's not stable and that I should get the
newest version from "idt" ... it's $1500usd.
Before I spend all that good money I will like to know what exactly is
wrong with NeXT3.0 AppleTalk ?
Thanks,
--
Alain Terriault, System Operator
Music Faculty, Mcgill University
Montreal, Canada
Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
Voice: (514) 398-4552
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Why is the GUI becoming slower and slower?
In-Reply-To: me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de's message of 16 Jun 1994 19:49:17 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Jun16135358@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <2tqabt$pjr@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:53:58 GMT
Werner Wetzel writes:
Werner> on each upgrade-step from 2.1 through 3.0 to 3.2 the graphical
Werner> interface has become slower and slower. Now with 3.2 moving windows
Werner> or scrolling is a pain ( NeXTcube, monochrome, 16MB ). NeXT doesn't
^^^^
Werner> give any hints in its documentation which I find very annoying. So I
Werner> am asking you on the net, is there anything I can do to improve the
Werner> situation?
Code bloat - your probably swapping more. Buy more memory.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 21:30:23 -0500
From: crawford@nesteggs.com (Michael E. Crawford)
Message-ID: <9406150230.AA00798@nesteggs.com>
Subject: Last chance for your two cents-Newton & NeXTstep
Toss your opinion into the pile --> respond only to me:
crawford@nesteggs.com
Right now the results run (within a standard deviation or two)
1/3
great idea, but I don't have a Newton
1/3
fabulous, I'm dying to connect my Newton to my NeXT
1/3
I won't buy a Newton until it connects to a NeXTstep computer
and the fourth 1/3
I could sell many copies of such software
Those who broach the subject say they'd pay $100-150
What about you?
Michael Crawford
nesteggs
Houston
"I've got your twisted logic wrapped around my little finger"
-Camel
From: eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu (Eric S. Boltz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Date: 16 Jun 1994 20:45:47 GMT
Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tqdlrINNnt4@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
References: <1994Jun16.195339.11709@news.media.mit.edu>
Michael B. Johnson writes
> In article <2tpush$t1v@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu writes:
> >>I would. I use C for everything.
> Us too. I think we have about 30 HP workstations at the Media Lab, and
Well, in general, I find that CS-oriented "researchers" do tend
to use C/C++ for lots. When you move over into a field such as
multi-dimensional integration, Fourier analysis, 3d wavelet transforms,
etc,etc. there just isn't any canned C stuff out there. In addition
Fortran makes complex vars easy (heck NS 3.0 didn't even have libg++)
and C is WAY TOO forgiving (i.e. you get the *wrong* number but never know
and your solid rocket motor blows up).
Just my HO...
-E
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: Stone Design Email Address??
Message-ID: <CrpG4F.K3@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
References: <2u0i14$jja@eps.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:50:38 GMT
In article <2u0i14$jja@eps.com> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
writes:
> I tried emailing to info@stone.com and it bounced back. Did they
move?
>
> --
> Steven Kornreich
> Kornreich Communications
> steve@eps.com
Try: elena@stone.com - arlean@stone.com - andrew@stone.com
manfred
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does File Dragging & Copying Still work on 3.2 Intel??
Date: 17 Jun 1994 04:02:41 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tr791$683@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <CrGFwp.1LE@trapac.com>
karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) writes:
> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes:
> > What bugs me is that I cannot hole down CMD and up/down
> > arrow with one hand anymore on intel h/w, leaving the
> > other free for the mouse. [munch]
> >
> > Could I switch the ALT and CMD keys using a keymapping?
> > I never thought of that before...
>
> Using Preferences pick the NextUSA Key mapping. This maps the
> intel keyboard to be the same as original black hardware. This,
> and a keyboard with moveable key caps, has allowed me to keep my
> sanity while working on non-black hardware.
Note that NextUSA completely recreates the NeXT keyboard, including
moving around some keys that maybe you don't want moved around. On
my keyboard, for instance, it meant that the ` key was back on the
keypad (over on the right), instead of to the left of the "1" key.
People may find it easier to start with a key mapping they know,
and then use the program in /NextDeveloper/Demos/Keyboard.app to
move around the keys they don't like. This doesn't take long to
do, and (as I remember) the help information in the program
basically tells you all you need to know. In my case all I want
is the key marked shift-lock to work as control, both control
keys to work as alternate, and both alt keys to work as command.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Does File Dragging & Copying Still work on 3.2 Intel??
Message-ID: <CrJ1Hn.L6E@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2timii$oci@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 05:48:59 GMT
Thanks to all! The NeXTUSA keymapping makes my Intel/101 keyboard like a
_REAL_ keyboard again!
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Guitar programs
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 03:25:54 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <hEzR4CK.jhepp@delphi.com>
References: <2sq0c4$8jg@clt.fx.net>
Michael, Unfortunately there is almost no musician software that I've
found that runs under NeXTStep that is guitarist-friendly. maybe soon.
Jeff Hepp
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From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Message-ID: <1994Jun17.025856.16870@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <1994Jun16.195339.11709@news.media.mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 02:58:56 GMT
In article <1994Jun16.195339.11709@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>
> Us too. I think we have about 30 HP workstations at the Media Lab, and
> none of them have a FORTRAN compiler. The folks who would be writing in
> FORTRAN seem to prefer MatLab and Mathematica these days...
For the same reason. FORTRAN has _great_ support for numerical work. C is
a johnny-come-lately with out much respect for number crunching. It
doesn't have complex numbers. There are large libraries of well tested
numeric code for FORTRAN. Use C for systems programming, FORTRAN for
heavy duty number crunching.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
BIX: rlove
-----------------------------------------------------------------
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: re: PCI support
Date: 17 Jun 1994 05:15:58 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9406171109.AA00238@hurka>
In article <CrFIA8.BE@tms-gmbh.de> hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger)
writes:
> There is only one supported PCI SCSI controller, the NCR
> 810 chip with the Talus driver, there are rumors that
> the Buslogic BT946 PCI controller works with the available
> BT445S driver
The available free BT445S driver probably won't work, but there is a
new version (unreleased yet). This version works with BT445S and new
firmware 3.37. Since the new firmware was the main reason, why the
driver didn't work with other 32-bit BusLogic SCSI cards i.e. EISA or
PCI, this time it should work. I am using 'should' since till today I
was not able to get one single piece of the BT946 to test it :-(((,
although I have some promises to get the card.
Moreover driver was successfully tested with EISA BT747 card and
thanks to Gerd Knops<gerti@BITart.sub.org> it also works correctly
with Toshiba CD-ROM XM-3401TA and CDPlayer.app, you only need to
switch Tohiba CD-ROM to XAmode.
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL OK
(one of the authors of the BT445S driver)
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why is the GUI becoming slower and slower?
Date: 17 Jun 1994 10:58:35 GMT
Organization: University of Durham, Durham, UK.
Message-ID: <2trvkr$oet@mercury.dur.ac.uk>
References: <2tqabt$pjr@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <BYER.94Jun16135358@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Scott Byer (byer@mv.us.adobe.com) wrote:
: Code bloat - your probably swapping more. Buy more memory.
Not really an option if you've a NeXTstation non turbo with 32meg of ram.
The more ram coders think they can demand their customers have, the sloppier
they will be with their memory management...
--
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EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
WWW: http://shrug.org/~scott/
Drink Coca Cola (tm)
From: af@iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (Alain Fauconnet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cub'X 4.21 on black seems stable
Date: 20 Jun 94 18:10:21 GMT
Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <af.772135821@iaka>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Quite a few weeks ago, I have posted a somewhat flaming article
about Cub'X: the product's stability and the inelegant
disappearance of the french company that used to sell it.
I have received information from many people, namely Eric de la
Tribouille and also Claire Normand from Intuitive Systems Inc.
There has been a hasteful message from someone else, who shall
remain nameless. My purpose is not to start a flame war.
The useful information pointed at patches, and I even have
received a copy of those patches by regular mail. I have applied
them, and after about two months of extensive testing, I am happy
to state that Cub'X, brought to level v4.21 by the patches now
seems to be a reliable product, at least with the clients we use:
mainly Gnu Emacs, Splus and ParkPlace Smalltalk. I therefore
retract my comments about the poor quality of the Cub'X software,
and I wish to thank the above mentioned people. My other comments
still stand. If we still had local support, my posting would not
even have been needed.
Greetings to you all,
_Alain_
--
Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM
Public Health Research Labs 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE
Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr (*no* NeXTmail please)
Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: waitForInterrupt error on 3.2 Install?
Message-ID: <1994Jun17.075730.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 12:57:30 GMT
I've finally gotten my copy of 3.2/FIP and now for some reason can't istall it!
Here's the scenario:
When I boot off the installation disk I get up to the point where install
informs me that three device drivers are available during installation (Adaptec
1542B, DTPxxx, and IDE) I have an Adaptec 1542C so I press 2 to continue. At
this point one of two things happens.
1. Immediately I receive the error ": thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735"
This error scrolls forever on the screen and I have to reset.
2. The above error does not appear and I get to the first "Resetting SCSI
bus" message, at which I receive an error that a CDROM drive cannot be
found. Once again - dead in the water.
The machine's config is as follows:
Gateway 2000 66V - GJX30 chip set
16MB RAM
Adaptec 1542C, Int 11, Port 330, DMA 6, SCSI ID 7
EtherExpress 16, Int 3, Port 300 (I believe)
PAStudio, DMA 5, Int 10 (DMA 1, Int 5 for Sound Blaster piece)
424MB IDE HD
NEC CDR84 CDROM, SCSI ID 2
What really bothers me about this is that I've been running NS3.1/FIP for
almost a year with no problems. So I'm sure that the hardware I have works
with NS. I do remember reading something about having the CD ROM at SCSI ID 0
to perform the install (and if this didn't work go to SCSI ID 6) but I haven't
had a chance to test that - the waitForInterrupt message happens more often.
Can anybody help me!!?!?!?!
Scott
Scott Davenport
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
(No NeXTMail, unfortunately)
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Tailor.app not working with everything
Message-ID: <CrpDxs.tH@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <CrIFwK.DB@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:03:27 GMT
In article <CrIFwK.DB@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes:
> I'm using Tailor.app quite often to transfer files from the Windows
> environment and NS.
>
> Well, quite often, it doesn't work when it does work with Preview.
> Sometimes, the app even crashes the whole system while just loading the PS
> pages.
>
> Something intersting is that when Tailor loads lots of pages, it
> considerably slows the entire system and when it hangs there, the entire
> system is hanged there two. You're not even able to kill the app !!
>
> Besides these little problems (that are sometime annoying) it's a
> beautiful app. You won't find any like this one anywhere.
>
> If someone knows how to solve my little problems, though, please do write
> me.
Really CRASH the system or just SLOW the system?
As Tailor decomposes your PS code it grabs huge amounts of memory.
So if things are slooooow maybe you just have to wait a bit longer?
Open the Processes Panel before reading your files in Tailor.
Do also select Tailor in the processes Panel for killing, keep the Really kill Panel on the screen
while reading the PS into Tailor. Maybe this gives you the chance to terminate the app?
Good luck, Juergen
---
Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617
== What time do we live in when firing people gets called {right,down}sizing,
== when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
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From: c92kl@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Kenneth Lomax)
Subject: MetaResearch e-mail address...
Message-ID: <1994Jun17.093200.487@client40.comlab.ox.ac.uk>
Originator: c92kl@client40.comlab
Sender: c92kl@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Kenneth Lomax)
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:32:00 GMT
Hi. Could anyone please give me the e-mail address of Metaresearch, Inc.?
(postal address 516 SE Morrison, Portland).
Please reply directly to my e-mail address.
Thank you
Ken
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: -NXHost over PPP or SLIP
Date: 17 Jun 1994 12:52:39 GMT
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
Message-ID: <2ts6an$bv4@news1.digex.net>
Has anyone been able to get -NXHost to work over PPP or SLIP from Black to
White? I get connection errors when I try. Any help would be appreciated.
- Scott
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From: mjh@kronecker.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Why is the GUI becoming slower and slower?
Message-ID: <1994Jun17.133303.29172@galois.mit.edu>
Sender: news@galois.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics
References: <2tqabt$pjr@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 13:33:03 GMT
(Werner Wetzel) writes:
> on each upgrade-step from 2.1 through 3.0 to 3.2 the graphical interface
> has become slower and slower.
>--
There was a lot of discussion about this when 3.0 came out.
One thing which seemed to improve performance was to boot with
128 or so buffers. You can do this with the boot command
bsd sdmach nbuf=128
Unfortunately, this command is too long to store in NVM. There is an
abbreviated version that you can store, something like "bsd -nbu=128",
but I don't recall what it is.
The discussion took place around Oct of 92 in c.s.n.misc and can
probably be found in the archive at sonata.cc.purdue.edu
Hope this helps
Mike
--
-----------------------------------
Mike Hopkins
mjh@math.mit.edu
-----------------------------------
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MetaResearch e-mail address...
Date: 17 Jun 1994 08:56:21 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940617144956.725AACUE.malc@jeeves>
Probably easiest to mail lee@metaresearch.com (Lee Buhler)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569
Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569
Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972
Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk
211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome)
Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
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From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
In-Reply-To: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu's message of 3 Jun 1994 17:25:14 GMT
Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Jun17083527@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <2snp1r$lis@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:35:27 GMT
>>>>> On 3 Jun 1994 17:25:14 GMT, mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) said:
In article <2snp1r$lis@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes:
> What *scientific* graphing programs exist for NextStep---White or
> Green?
It's name doesn't say it but try HippoDraw from the archives
> Free? Commercial?
Free
> 2-d? 3-d? Command line? GUI?
yes yes no yes
> What are people's experience with them?
People like it because it combines drawing with graphing and is
highly interactive.
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mesa manual has nonstandard fonts
Date: 20 Jun 1994 18:28:42 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2u4n4q$9mb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
The electronic version of the manual that comes with Mesa is provided only
in .ps form using New Century Schoolbook fonts which do not come standard
with NextStep. Is there anybody else out there who cannot read the Mesa
manual and wants to? I have been corresponding with David Policar at
Athena, and he says that he will provide the manual in NextStep standard
fonts if there is anybody in addition to me who is asking for it.
If you want the Mesa manual in NextStep standard fonts, please email:
> David Policar, Documentation & Training dpolicar@athena.com
Thanks.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Print font sheet without installing?
Message-ID: <1994Jun17.215832.1727@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <2tkkfp$nuf@gateway.wiltel.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 21:58:32 GMT
In article <2tkkfp$nuf@gateway.wiltel.com> mzemina@.wiltel.com (Mike Zemina)
writes:
* Is there a script or app that allows printing of a font
* _without_ installing it?
Our ViewFont application displays all the characters in a font in
a 16 by 16 grid, from whence you can print the font. You can drop
NEXTSTEP style font packages, Macintosh fonts, or PC fonts on
ViewFont and it will display them. If you like the results, you
can then use our MacToPfa or PfbToPfa applications to convert the
fonts to NEXTSTEP format and install them for you.
ViewFont -- a simple font viewer. ViewFont:
o displays characters from a font.
o displays character metrics for selected character.
o displays Mac or PC fonts without first converting
or installing them.
o displays installed OR un-installed fonts.
MacToPfa -- a Mac to NeXT font converter and installer. MacToPfa:
o converts Mac storage format to NeXT PFA format.
o understands Macintosh file systems,
o understands Type 4 POST resources,
o understands MacBinary storage format,
o understands Macintosh font files on DOS file systems.
o converts and sanitises the AFM file (is there is one).
o converts and creates a correct AFM file,
o fills in missing fields (such as FullName and FamilyName),
o generates an AFM file (if there isn't one).
o installs the font for you.
PfbToPfa -- a PC to NeXT font converter and installer. PfbToPfa:
o converts PC storage format to NeXT PFA format.
o converts and sanitises AFM file (is there is one).
o converts PFM (if there is one) to AFM.
o generates AFM file (if neither AFM nor PFM exist).
o installs the font for you.
Trilithon Software,
3000 Alpine Road,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: (415) 851-7901
FAX: (415) 851-7902
E-mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.msdos,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Unix/DOS Serial I/O
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:44:01 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jun18.014401.15062@bilver.oau.org>
References: <1994Jun15.150334.23322@bilver.oau.org> <CrHvKD.K7E@agedwards.com>
In article <CrHvKD.K7E@agedwards.com>,
Chris Cleeland <cleelacj@agedwards.com> wrote:
>Bill Vermillion (bill@bilver.oau.org) wrote:
>: In article <Cr8M6n.4yE@csn.org>, Barry D. McQuain <mcquain@teal.csn.org> wrote:
>: >I am having a problem sending data from a NeXT computer to a PC via a serial
>: >cable.
>: Sounds like you are transmitting as even parity, so that a parity
>: bit is added to make the number of 1's transmitted come out to
>: an even number
>: Mask it on the receive side. [...]
>: Your PC comm program should be able to handle this. Tell it to
>: ignore parity. If your program doesn't do this, there are
>: others that do.
>Except that ignoring parity on the receive side doesn't do anything
>to get you the original character. Parity is added at the send side,
>and only checked at the receive side. Old, crude, error detection
>mechanism.
Right on the part I said about ignore parity, but I also said 'mask' it.
I've had to do that on some strange hardware that didn't permit you
to do anything about the way it worked. (Or it may have been the
OS implementation). You don't ignore it, you mask it, or strip it.
That will take you back to your original data.
Some programs will strip it, others won't.
>To turn off parity generation on the NeXT side, a piece of code
>similar to the following should work. For more info, consult
>tty(4).
I'm going to save that, as I hope to get NeXTSTEP for iNTEL up
in a couple of weeks. Thanks.
--
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
From: qShariff@io.org (qShariff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Slip on NS/FIP 3.2 (q)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 05:00:14
Organization: IS solutions
Message-ID: <qShariff.6.00050126@io.org>
Thanks to everyone who helped via postings and mail.
I finally got it to work a few days ago and I got some apps
to work with them. But I have a few problems.
I got the GatorFTP for Intel crashes but it crashes whenever I try to
download a file although the command line ftp works. And the NewsGrazer takes
forever to get to the news. And OmniWeb also takes for ever to get a single
HTLM document.
The only apps that work decent are the Gopher app and the PopOver app.
And finally there is the biggest problem. The (DTS) data transfer speed.
Whenever I'm trying to download a file via ftp the max throughput I
get is 1.2 KBytes/s. Usually the average DTS I get is like 0.5 K/s.
Under windows I don't get any of these problems.
I was wondering if its because I'm using slip (instead of cslip).
Thanks.
Q
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame announces FrameMaker 3.2 for NEXTSTEP
Date: 18 Jun 1994 09:27:53 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tuemp$kg3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2ttbr4$lhi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <2ttbr4$lhi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> FRAME TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION ANNOUNCES FRAMEMAKER 3 ON NEXTSTEP FOR
> INTEL
Why the *&^! can't they release it for Motorolla and HP too? I was hoping
to skip from Motorolla directly to HP, and I don't want to buy Intel just
to get Frame.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: music software with MIDI capability
In-Reply-To: takken@leland.stanford.edu's message of 19 Jun 1994 22:00:57 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Jun20120102@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <2u2f6p$1lm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 19:01:02 GMT
Todd Takken writes:
Todd> Is there any music software available to allow me to link my NeXT up
Todd> with my MIDI keyboard? As far as I can tell from reading the
Todd> newsgroups, the only music composition software available is MusicKit,
Todd> and it does not do MIDI. Am I correct?
Todd> I really would hate to have to regress down to the level of owning a
Todd> Mac again, just to get MIDI capability.
Don't worry; nearly all NeXT music applications do MIDI.
At home, I use a MidiLink and Sequence (will it ever make it to release
staus ? :-). The MidiLink hangs out between the serial port and MIDI. No
problem. Even Ensemble (a demo program) does MIDI effortlessly.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
From: damonc@hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HERE'S HOW: Standalone SLIP in 11 Easy Steps
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:28:23 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <damonc.34.2E02F676@hookup.net>
I got TransSys PNI 1.9 working on my standalone
NS Intel 3.2 machines!!!
Thanks to everyone who responded (WOW! Talk about
a helpfull community!!) Every one of the replies
put a piece in the puzzle.
What I was doing wrong was a combination of things:
1) I had MTU in pni0.config left at 1006 when my provider
had an MTU of 2000+
2) I may have had "bad" chars in some of my config files
(I replaced them with ones supplied/suggested and did
#1 above and it "just worked"!!)
Anyway, many thanks to all who helped out. If you are in a
similar situation, and are still struggling to get a
SLIP connection going, here are the basic steps (as
I remember them anyway.) If I've missed anything,
or misrepresented something, someone please
correct me. Do all steps logged in as root.
1) Install NEXTSTEP.
2) Get an account with Internet provider and get
info (IP addresses, etc)
3) Get and install TransSys PNI 1.9 (available @
cs.orst.edu). When installing, answer "YES" to
the "Make Non-NetInfo Network".
4) Restart the machine.
5) In HostManager, do Hosts->Open->Local and:
a) Set the IP address to the one given you by
the provider.
b) Add an alias. The alias should be the
"Host Name" given you by the provider
(in my case "damonc").
6) Open /etc/hostconfig and change the HOSTNAME
field from the default value of -AUTOMATIC- to
the value of the "Host Name" you set in step 5(b) above.
When finished, it should look similar to this (your
HOSTNAME will be different, of course):
# /etc/hostconfig
# Local host configuration file
#
HOSTNAME=damonc
INETADDR=-AUTOMATIC-
ROUTER=-NO-
IPNETMASK=
IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC-
NETMASTER=-NO-
YPDOMAIN=-NO-
TIME=-NO-
7) Open /etc/resolv.conf (or create one if it doesn't
exist so that your machine can find a nameserver. You
need a) the IP address of the nearest Name Server and
b) your Domain Suffix (your local domain) from your
Internet provider. When finished, it should look similar
to this (your addresses will be different, of course):
# /etc/resolv.conf
# Domain name resolver configuration file
#
domain tor.hookup.net
nameserver 165.154.1.1
8) Restart the machine
9) Set up the TransSys PNI config files.
a) Save the following as pni0.config in /etc/pni/config.
CHECK WITH YOU INTERNET PROVIDER FOR THE CORRECT
"MTU" TO USE. (Your addresses, etc will be different, of
course):
#
# Pretty close to minimal configuration file for just plain SLIP using
#
# $Header: /local/SRCS/slip2/pnid/support/config.slip,v 1.4 1993/10/06 02:42:48 louie Exp $
## PART I.
set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0
set Config(pni:MTU) 2000
set Config(pni:ADDRESS) local-address
set Config(pni:REMOTEADDRESS) remote-address
set Config(pni:NETWORKMASK) 255.255.255.0
set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 1
set Config(slip:MODE) slip
set Config(tty:DEVICE) /dev/cufa
set Config(tty:SPEED) 38400
set Config(tty:MODEMTYPE) zyxel
set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) unix
set Config(tty:SERVERNAME) SlipServerName
set Config(tty:NUMBER) 416-630-0970
set Config(SlipServerName:DIALTYPE) TONE
set Config(SlipServerName:USERNAME) username
set Config(SlipServerName:PASSWORD) password
# PART II.
stack PNI pni
stack SLIP slip
stack TTY tty
# PART III.
proc LINK_start { encap } {
log "LINK $encap connected"
}
proc LINK_stop { encap } {
log "LINK $encap disconnected"
}
#
# END OF FILE
b) Save the following as login-unix.tcl in /etc/pni/support
(Your login script will be different, of course):
# Copyright 1993 by TransSys, Inc.
# All rights reserved.
#
# $Header: /local/SRCS/slip2/pnid/support/login-unix.tcl,v 1.7 1994/05/14 20:15:32 louie Exp $
#
#
# Login script for use when remote end is some sort of UNIX box that will
# drop into SLIP mode.
#
proc login-hookup { DIALER cfg } {
global Config
syslog LOG_INFO "Start Hookup login script"
if {[info exists Config($cfg:SECRETFILE)] &&
[file exists $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE)]} {
if {[file readable $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE)]} {
source $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE)
}
file stat $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE) stat
if {[expr $stat(mode)&044]} {
error "File with password, $Config($cfg:SECRETFILE), is readable by non-owner!"
}
} else {
if {[info exists Config($cfg:USERNAME)]} {
set username $Config($cfg:USERNAME)
}
if {[info exists Config($cfg:PASSWORD)]} {
set password $Config($cfg:PASSWORD)
}
}
set timeout 20
# In case autobaud
# $DIALER xmit "\r"
# $DIALER sleep 1
$DIALER xmit "\r"
$DIALER sleep 10
# Look for unix login prompt
$DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for login prompt"}
"*ogin:*"
# Send login poop
$DIALER xmit "$username\r"
$DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for password"}
"*assword:*"
$DIALER sleep 1
$DIALER xmit "$password\r"
# Wait for connection
set timeout 60
$DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for SLIP startup"}
"*choice:*"
$DIALER xmit "2\r"
$DIALER sleep 5
# set timeout 20
syslog LOG_INFO "Entering SLIP mode"
# That's all
return 1
}
c) Copy the Zyxel modem file (dial-zyxel.tcl) from the
/etc/pni/support or /etc/pni/SAMPLES (can't remember
which one?) to /etc/pni/config. This file name must
match the value for "Config(tty:MODEMTYPE)" line in
the /etc/pni/config/pni0.config file.
10) If you want to bring up the SLIP link when you start the
machine, rename the /etc/pni/config/pni0.config to
/etc/pni/config/pni0.config-auto.
11) Restart the machine. If you chose to set up the link on
startup, you should now be connected. If you chose not to
bring up the link on startup, enter the following in a
terminal window to manually bring up the link:
/etc/pni/pnid -t -d -c -f /etc/pni/config/pni0.config
or
/etc/pni/pnid -t -d -c -f /etc/pni/config/pni0.config-auto
(if you are bringing up the link at startup but it failed)
NOTE: this command line will work, but it shows test and
debugging info. Lookup /etc/pni/pnirun in the TransSys
doco for a "proper" command.
THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE THAT HELPED OUT!! SEE YOU AT
THE EXPO!!
Regards,
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@hookup.net
From: mike@dannug.dk (Michael Zedeler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 18 Jun 1994 12:38:22 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tupru$js@nexia.dk>
References: <PFKEB.94Jun17083527@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
One program I know is SciPlot (used to be shareware), can be found on
cs.orst.edu. Nobody seemed to mention that
Miko.
--
Michael Zedeler, Roskilde University, Member of Danish NeXT U. G.
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Good news for NeXTSTEP...Frame Returns
Date: 18 Jun 1994 08:14:45 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jun18091445@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <2tt3e9$92f@inxs.concert.net>
To: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
In-reply-to: info@paradigm-shift.com's message of 17 Jun 1994 21:09:29 GMT
<info@paradigm-shift.com> writes:
>This is not on the net to my knowledge and we just received it in the mail.
>Good news just in time for everyone to go home for the weekend and for Expo.
You're kidding right?
Lets see. It was in announce.. correctly I might add.
Then you posted it in advocacy and so did Malcom.
So that makes 3 extra copies..
--
"Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: aland@wri.com (Alan DeGuzman)
Subject: nn for NeXTStep/Intel
Message-ID: <aland.772140515@caribou.wri.com>
Sender: news@wri.com ( )
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 19:28:35 GMT
Hello -
I am looking for a precompiled version of nn for NeXTStep/Intel.
Alternatively, a good makefile (I suppose a makefile for NeXT/Black
would work fine) would be greatly appreciated.
--
--
Alan DeGuzman Wolfram Research, Inc. aland@wri.com
====================================================================
DISCLAIMER: "My opinions are not necessarily shared by my employer."
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 18 Jun 1994 15:13:54 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tv2vi$jcd@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>
References: <PFKEB.94Jun17083527@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
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In article <PFKEB.94Jun17083527@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) writes:
> >>>>> On 3 Jun 1994 17:25:14 GMT, mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) said:
> In article <2snp1r$lis@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt
Kennel) writes:
>
>
> > What *scientific* graphing programs exist for NextStep---White or
> > Green?
>
> It's name doesn't say it but try HippoDraw from the archives
>
> > Free? Commercial?
>
> Free
>
> > 2-d? 3-d? Command line? GUI?
> yes yes no yes
>
> > What are people's experience with them?
>
> People like it because it combines drawing with graphing and is
> highly interactive.
>
> --
> Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
> Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
> Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
I'm about to submit a paper for publication in which 2 out of 6 plots were
created using HippoDraw, and the other 4 were created using nxyplot. All
6 plots were saved in EPS files, dropped into Diagram for annotation, and
printed on an HP LaserJet 4Si. Let me just say a word about HippoDraw,
because I think Paul (who led the programming effort) is being a bit too
modest about it. Both nxyplot and HippoDraw read ascii files in which
each line is an "ntuple" of numbers. You can just select the data in any
app, e.g. Edit, and use the Services menu to create the plot. nxyplot is
great for multiple-line plots (which, incidentally, Improv v 1.0 does NOT
do correctly). HippoDraw, on the other hand, gives you interactive
histograms of the data in either 1 or 2 dimensions. You can control the
binning, upper and lower limits, and many other features of the
histograms, and the plots adjust automatically and quickly. Now comes the
GOOD part: you can do chi-squared fits to the histograms, using several
built-in functions, or one of your own design. This uses a powerful
minimization routine developed at CERN. Any of the parameter values can
be fixed, or allowed to vary between fixed limits, or freely varied. You
can do multiple fits to different parts of the histograms, apply various
kinds of "cuts" to the data, and control the treatment of empty bins. If
you're interested in histogramming data in 1D or 2D, and doing some fits,
this is the software for you! Good work, Paul!
--Bob--
PS: For 1D fits without histogramming, try CurveFit, by
jlombard@alleg.edu. Also very nice, and free.
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From: starksm@genesis.mcs.com (Scott M. Stark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Archie bug fix
Date: 18 Jun 1994 16:01:06 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tv5o2$l42@News1.mcs.com>
Keywords: Archie
Archie version 2.15, June 18 1994
-rw-rw-r-- 1 me 492440 Jun 18 10:37 Archie_215.tar.gz
sum Archie_215.tar.gz -> 34778 481
Location: cs.orst.edu
Path: pub/next/submissions or pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info
Bug fixes:
1. Crash during ftp retrieval if session ivoked as service.
Scott Stark
starksm@genesis.mcs.com
--
Scott Stark
Stark International Software
4950 N. Marine Dr.
#102
Chicago, IL 60640
starksm@genesis.mcs.com (NeXT mail accepted)
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Date: 18 Jun 1994 16:41:50 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tv84e$eub@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Jun16.195339.11709@news.media.mit.edu> <2tqdlrINNnt4@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Eric S. Boltz (eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu) wrote:
: Well, in general, I find that CS-oriented "researchers" do tend
: to use C/C++ for lots. When you move over into a field such as
: multi-dimensional integration, Fourier analysis, 3d wavelet transforms,
: etc,etc. there just isn't any canned C stuff out there.
Oh, I don't know. Much of this stuff is needed for signal processing and
scientific computation, both of which have moved from Fortran to C greatly
in the last few years (from what I've seen), except when you need precision
and not speed, in which case it's moved to truly precise systems like
Mathematica and (dare I say it?) Lisp (okay, it's out now).
It's been my limited experience that a majority of research/academic
programmers _discounting_CS_ are now using C or a similar language.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Edit.app filename limitation?
Message-ID: <CrpquE.4np@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 20:42:13 GMT
I'm trying to edit files on a NetWare server with Edit.app. I can open the
file with Edit.app, but when I try to Save or Save As or Save To I get the
message from Edit,
File system error
Unable to open
/private/Net/NetWare/PAVLOV/USER/home/test.bat. File system error: File name
too long.
I *can* successfully edit/save files using vi, or even WordPerfect, but I'd
prefer to use Edit. Is this a known bug? Is there a workaround?
I'm using Edit Release 3.0 (v74.0.1) on NS 3.0 black.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: Edit.app : when is RTF NOT RTF?
Message-ID: <1994Jun17.193237.8173@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:32:37 GMT
I'm trying to send some rich text mail to someone who can't
receive NeXTmail. Since I know RTF is "just text", I decide to fool Edit.app
into opening the rtf file by removing the ".rtf" file extension.
To my amazement and dismany, this did not work -- Edit still (incorrectly imho)
opened the document and displayed it as Rich Text!
So I ended up cat'ing the file in Terminal.app and copying and pasting the text
into mail in order to achieve my goal. I should have been able to use Edit.app.
For example if I have a file named HelloThere.rtf and inside is "Hello there!"
in 64 point Helvetica. I should be able to remove the extension ".rtf", and
have Edit open it as if it were just plain old ascii:
{\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;\f1\fmodern Ohlfs;}
\paperw13040
\paperh11900
\margl120
\margr120
\pard\tx1340\tx2680\tx4020\tx5360\tx6720\tx8060\tx9400\tx10740\tx12080\tx13440\
f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs128\fc0\cf0 Hello there!
}
Instead when I open the file HelloThere what Edit shows me is Rich text! Wrong!
Wrong! Wrong! What's the point in having file name extensions?!
Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Tailor.app not working with everything
Message-ID: <CrIFwK.DB@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:02:44 GMT
I'm using Tailor.app quite often to transfer files from the Windows
environment and NS.
Well, quite often, it doesn't work when it does work with Preview.
Sometimes, the app even crashes the whole system while just loading the PS
pages.
Something intersting is that when Tailor loads lots of pages, it
considerably slows the entire system and when it hangs there, the entire
system is hanged there two. You're not even able to kill the app !!
Besides these little problems (that are sometime annoying) it's a
beautiful app. You won't find any like this one anywhere.
If someone knows how to solve my little problems, though, please do write
me.
Thanks
Jacques GARBI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Message-ID: <CrJMJ4.Au@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
References: <2sjafj$sem@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:23:28 GMT
I have NS 3.2 running on a Pentium machine. I have the new Audiotrix Pro
as a sound card and it uses the Microsoft Sound System driver.
I tried MLProducer but I wasn't able to produce any sound or any sound
file.
It seems that I have a problem loading the voices right. I use the Voice
Manager and drop a voice file in the 'bird' folder. Then nothing happens.
When I click to make up the sound file, it tells me that voice "high" is
unknown, although I droped the high voice in the 'bird' folder.
Can anyone help me ?
Furthermore, how can I play .score and .mid files on my Pentium machine. I
tried ScoreAndSound but it doesn't work.
Thanks
Jacques GARBI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: Good news for NeXTSTEP...Frame Returns
Message-ID: <CrLsBu.B3@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
References: <2tt3e9$92f@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 17:23:54 GMT
>
>
> FRAME TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION ANNOUNCES FRAMEMAKER 3 ON NEXTSTEP FOR
> INTEL
>
WHy NOT IN F A T ? ? ? ! ! !
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From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scientific Graphing
Date: 18 Jun 1994 20:03:58 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2tvjve$2s4@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <2tv2vi$jcd@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Robert F. Cahalan (cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: I'm about to submit a paper for publication in which 2 out of 6 plots were
: created using HippoDraw, and the other 4 were created using nxyplot. All
: 6 plots were saved in EPS files, dropped into Diagram for annotation, and
: printed on an HP LaserJet 4Si. Let me just say a word about HippoDraw,
: because I think Paul (who led the programming effort) is being a bit too
: modest about it. Both nxyplot and HippoDraw read ascii files in which
: each line is an "ntuple" of numbers. You can just select the data in any
: app, e.g. Edit, and use the Services menu to create the plot. nxyplot is
: great for multiple-line plots (which, incidentally, Improv v 1.0 does NOT
: do correctly). HippoDraw, on the other hand, gives you interactive
: histograms of the data in either 1 or 2 dimensions.
I've looked at these programs. Maybe I missed the option, but here's
what I need to do.
I want to be able to save "parameter" files which contain all
the information about a plot --- EXCEPT THE DATA.
This is because I want to plot many data sets all using the same
configuration. When I say data sets, I mean things that come from
more than one file.
Say, fifth column of file 1 vs first column of file 1 (first curve)
sixth column of file 1 vs " " (second curve)
fifth column of file 2 vs first column of file 2 (third curve)
sixth column of file 2 vs. (fourth)
That's one graph. I want to diddle everything limits titles, legends
etcetera. Then I want to clear all the data out and do exactly
the same thing with "file 1 and file 2" being two new files and
have it pop in exactly right.
This is what the "xvgr/xmgr" graphing programs (out of oregon state?)
for X can do, and I _need_ it.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres......
: .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center
: .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771.............
: .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276...........
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
cheers
Matt
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Edit.app : when is RTF NOT RTF?
Date: 18 Jun 1994 20:50:10 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <2tvmm2$k8u@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <1994Jun17.193237.8173@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
>I'm trying to send some rich text mail to someone who can't
>receive NeXTmail. Since I know RTF is "just text", I decide to fool Edit.app
>into opening the rtf file by removing the ".rtf" file extension.
Well, RTF and Edit.app have a sort of `special relationship'---since Edit
actually has to read the RTF header anyway, it doesn't need to see a file
extension. This is `a feature, not a bug': it's just like gunzip knowing
what sort of compressed file it's looking at, even when the extension is
incorrect.
If you'll look in the Preferences of Edit.app, you'll find that you can
set it to `Ignore RTF' instead of `Edit RTF'. I think this is the behavior
that you wanted. Sorry it wasn't more obvious....
There is a species called Puffinus puffinus: +--------------------------------+
``Surely a puffin,'' of course you will say. | Joshua W Burton (401)435-6370 |
No, it is found in the Procellariidae. | burton@het.brown.edu |
(That's why taxonomy's all but passe.) +--------------------------------+
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tailor.app not working with everything
Date: 20 Jun 1994 09:19:21 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2u3je9$9t1@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CrIFwK.DB@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Jacques Garbi writes:
>I'm using Tailor.app quite often to transfer files from the Windows
>environment and NS.
>Well, quite often, it doesn't work when it does work with Preview.
>Sometimes, the app even crashes the whole system while just loading the PS
>pages.
>Something intersting is that when Tailor loads lots of pages, it
>considerably slows the entire system and when it hangs there, the entire
>system is hanged there two. You're not even able to kill the app !!
Are you sure you supplied enough swap space? Tailor gobbles up swap
space when used with large PS files.
--
/dev/ Markus Wenzel
/usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
/etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart
/bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: gabor@arch-ws11.architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Suggestion for advanced Image processing application?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 13:42:41 GMT
Organization: University of Kassel - Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2u46ch$dfd@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de>
Hallo
I am looking for a (high-end) image processor for NEXTSTEP (FAT).
I use appsoft Image currently but it crashes very often, so I need a
(better and more powerful) replacement.
I have seen some adverts about Compose In Color but could not find
anybody, who has already worked with this application. If somebody uses it
or similar products please send me some suggestions / comments.
important features:
- advanced image editing
- Image formats ( Photoshop if possible)
- digitizer support
- scaner support
- color separation
Thanks.
Gabor
--
Gabor Freivogel
GhK FB Architektur
Henschelstr. 2
34109 Kassel
E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: An answer to various NewsGrazer woes
Message-ID: <Cr6JCC.DJ@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 11:45:47 GMT
Sorry, this will probably not be the ultimate answer to all of your NewsGrazer woes but it may help
you on some anyway.
I found that when NewsGrazer crashes on opening a group I can avoid this crashing (always?) by
deactivating Prefetch and Sort. This has worked several times - guarantees excluded.
Good luck, Juergen
---
Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617
== What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of
== is a new version of soap powder,
== when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Lynx 2.3 on a black next
Message-ID: <Cr7DC6.6Cr@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
References: <2t8qci$iqj@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 22:33:41 GMT
In article <2t8qci$iqj@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
>
> BTW, you really want to compile with -DUNDERLINE_LINKS if you're
> using NeXT's Terminal program.
>
Does anyone know a way to make lynx work in bold using Stuart? I've used the
bold on other terminals and it works well, it makes links a lot easier.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is wierd
Message-ID: <1994Jun10.213001.7818@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
References: <2t8o1m$fmg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 21:30:01 GMT
In article <2t8o1m$fmg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
> In article <1994Jun9.210029.1584@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E
> Noel) writes:
> > Yep, Newsgrazer dies all the time, it rarely stays alive for more than 2
> > minutes at a time.
> >
> > Most of the time, it goes into the 'death' wait where the cursor just
> > spins.
> >
> > Anyone found a replacement yet?
> >
> I've been running NewsGrazer R3.0 V75 over a term-connected modem line
> daily since it first appeared and have NEVER seen it crash.
Maybe I can help narrow down the problem. NewsGrazer 75 would crash as
described by many quite a bit prior to our use of nntp. When we "used flat
files" and mounted the spool directory and /usr/lib/news across our network,
etc.. we experienced NewsGrazer crashing frequently. This crashing seemed
related to our newsfeed occasionaly sending us articles out of sync. I could
clean this up by scrubbing/patching user's .newsrc file and deleting the out of
sync articles from the spool directories.
Since we switched from running just C-news/NewsGrazer to
running C-News/nntp/NewsGrazer, the crashing problem has disappeared.
--brad.
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Standard Unix [cut] and [paste] available on NeXT ?
Date: 12 Jun 1994 05:05:14 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <2te52a$7n4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <Cr9821.E6z@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
In article <Cr9821.E6z@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer) writes:
> In article <Cr58Gt.3tM@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>,
> Michael Friendly <friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca> wrote:
> >Archie on 'cut' gives a whole bunch of sites which carry a BSD 4.3 (I think)
> >version of cut which is much more useful than colrm (allows delimiters,
> >e.g.). These use a version of make and makefiles which do no work on the
> >NeXT. Has anyone compiled this cut?
>
> You're probably better off trying the GNU version, available in
> prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/textutils-1.9.tar.gz. It compiles
> painlessly.
I agree, the GNU package is easier, but if you have built a BSD-make from
the BSD distribution, then it is pretty trivial to build a lot of their
stuff:
(these two are from the BSD-reno sets - just add #define _BSD_LINE_MAX 132,
or whatever you think. Compiled here on m68k.)
skye:/Users/jmack/src/bsd>ls
/ Makefile.cut cut.1 paste.1
./ Makefile.paste cut.c paste.c
skye:/Users/jmack/src/bsd>cat Makefile.cut
# @(#)Makefile 5.2 (Berkeley) 5/11/90
PROG= cut
include <bsd.prog.mk>
[Makefile.paste is similar for paste]
skye:/Users/jmack/src/bsd>bsdmake -f Makefile.cut
cc -O -o cut ./cut.c
nroff -mandoc cut.1 > cut.0
skye:/Users/jmack/src/bsd>bsdmake -f Makefile.paste
cc -O -o paste ./paste.c
nroff -mandoc paste.1 > paste.0
skye:/Users/jmack/src/bsd>file cut paste
cut: Mach-O executable not stripped
paste: Mach-O executable not stripped
Cheers,
--
James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab
Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 19:06:54 -0500
From: crawford@nesteggs.com (Michael E. Crawford)
Message-ID: <9406110006.AA00304@nesteggs.com>
Subject: Re: Sybase and ORACLE update; neither will cut grass
original poster sez:
>>> so, my question still stands (snip, snip)
>>> How do I set up a stand-alone system to use DBkit... I'm sorry, but I am
>>> under the understanding that I need a server to access, that DBkit will
>>>not run alone....
stimpy sez: (except for the parentheticals)
>>Pity about sybase, (snip, snip)
(lost both parents on the Titanic, you know)
>>1. Borland's Interbase, which is currently for sale, and the licensing is
>>expensive. you have to license each noe - client and server. With other
>>adaptor supported DBMS's this is not necessary.
>>
>>2. QuickBase is another alternative; low cost, FAT, and ready to roll, but
>>large customers tend to shy away from non-name recognizable DBMS's. HP
>>support is also in the offing.
>>
>>3. There's also Gupta's SQL engine. This one is an unknown to me.
>>--
Pomeroy sez:
>Don't forget informix. I think they are going to support NSFIP. Don't know
>about the rest.
& I sez:
Aaaannnd, don't forget about IXAdaptor
costs less than a self-propelled lawnmower
but responds to SQL queries.
Speaking of which, query
IXAdaptor_info@vnp.com
for their blurb
mec
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is wierd
Message-ID: <1994Jun11.055508.2310@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <2t7ias$qim@news1.digex.net> <2t8cdf$jks@kelso.abbott.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 05:55:08 GMT
In article <2t7ias$qim@news1.digex.net> chris@clubside.digex.net writes:
>wacked. I mean, is there ANY reason it has to reload all the newsgroup
>names each time it runs? Maybe with a direct connect it's tolerable, but
"tin" does the full newsgroup file download too.
So, if you were wondering, there's no reason to bark up that tree.
(Though I use tin because NG crashes when I try to post!)
A Slow connection is better than No connection...
Constructing mnemonic devices with stone knives and bearskins,
Brian
bnh@active.com
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stone Design Email Address??
Date: 19 Jun 1994 04:36:52 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2u0i14$jja@eps.com>
I tried emailing to info@stone.com and it bounced back. Did they move?
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
steve@eps.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Message-ID: <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com>
Keywords: And don't take "No" for an answer!
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
References: <2t7ajj$dg3@inxs.concert.net> <2t8bok$e9@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 23:14:25 GMT
In article <2t8bok$e9@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl>, Annard Brouwer writes:
> Please Jayson Adams, when will NewsGrazer Pro come out?
>
When NeXT released the fat NG, they basically told the world that they're
supporting the app. Everyone using NG should demand that NeXT fix the bugs
and add features. And don't forget to ask for a tri-fat version.
__jayson
From: mengpao@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (mengpao cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW access?
Date: 11 Jun 1994 10:54:15 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Message-ID: <2tc54n$5rp@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
References: <1994Jun3.184443.21008@cc.usu.edu> <CqzIJt.I8o@ucdavis.edu> <neuss.771249876@budlight>
Keywords: Omniweb, NASA, WWW, URL
Hello NeXT Fans,
I have a couple of questions really annoying me. Hopefully I can gather
some answers from all of you.
On "NeXTAnswers #1475", it said that the Adaptec 1742 SCSI controller must
be set in "Standard Mode" in order to run NS. It also mentioned that when you
set Adaptec 1742 in "Standard Mode", it is compitable with Adaptec 1542. My
questions are:
1. If we set 1742 in standard mode which is compatible with 1542, can 1742 still take advantage of 32bit EISA board. Or said can 1742 still has the ability to access the memory more than 16MB???
2. Supposely one has EISA motherboard and want to choose either 1742 or 1542 controller. Since 1542 and 1742 are both using the same driver in NS, why
would people pay more for using 1742 instead of using 1542 -- assuming both of them make no difference to each others.
3. I think a lot of fans know that PAS16 and Adaptec 1542 will fight each other in ISA bus motherboard. Is this going to be the same if one use both of them in EISA bus motherboard??? In another hand, assuming both 1542 and 1742 are functioning in the same way (since they are using the same driver), will 1742 and 1542 fight each other in EISA bus motherboard???
Any suggestions or answers will be so appreciated....
Rueiwun Tu
From: rune@uranus.ifi.unit.no (Rune Sandnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for BSD Unix for NextStation
Date: 21 Jun 1994 01:03:16 GMT
Organization: Nettverksgruppa - UNIT
Message-ID: <2u5e8k$k4e@ugle.unit.no>
References: <2u22mt$436@ugle.unit.no> <CroIBp.1Iy@cunews.carleton.ca>
>NeXTSTEP's underside is already based on BSD UNIX, with some add-ons and
>modifications.
I have received quite a number of emails informing me of this, and I've
realised that my original question wasn't clear enough.
My student's society has inherited a NextServer, with NextStep 2 on it. We
can't afford an upgrade (unless it's free, we wouldn't know - there are no
dealers for Next here, and this is as far as we know the only Next box in
town.)
Most NS software that floats around the net requires NS 3.0 or better.
We find the NextServer very difficult to integrate with our existing machines,
and really could use it's processor and disk for something more useful
(e.g. a news-server) than an interesting museum object.
We're told there is a FREE-BSD port for the Next. True? Where?
Of course, if we got a software upgrade things would look different. I would
really like to have a NextStep machine around, just to give people the
possibility to try hands on what they have only hear about earlier...
Rune
From: rune@uranus.ifi.unit.no (Rune Sandnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for BSD Unix for NextStation
Date: 19 Jun 1994 18:27:41 GMT
Organization: Nettverksgruppa - UNIT
Message-ID: <2u22mt$436@ugle.unit.no>
We would like to try BSD Unix on our NextStation, but we haven't been
able to find this port of BSD Unix on any public FTP sites.
Is it available, and where?
Rune
From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 'term'and NeXTStep3.2 ?
Date: 19 Jun 1994 21:34:12 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2u2dkk$kve@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Yesterday I upgraded my 3.0 to 3.2.
Now I have a trouble to run 'term' with 3.2.
I can not use 'trsh'..
Any advice?
My system is NeXT Black with 3.2 and Supra V32bis modem
and Remote is SunSparc2 with 4.1.3.
Term version is 1.1.7.
Thanks in advance.
<Soonam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Edit.app filename limitation?
Message-ID: <Crq7Jy.IAp@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services
References: <CrpquE.4np@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 02:42:22 GMT
If you have Edit "Don't delete backup" in preferences it will try and
write the previous file with a ~ at the end (.../test.bat~ ) and that name
is too long. Either delete the file just before saving, turn off that
feature or don't use Edit to edit DOS files.
peter
Michael Friendly (friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca) wrote:
: I'm trying to edit files on a NetWare server with Edit.app. I can open the
: file with Edit.app, but when I try to Save or Save As or Save To I get the
: message from Edit,
: File system error
: Unable to open
: /private/Net/NetWare/PAVLOV/USER/home/test.bat. File system error: File name
: too long.
: I *can* successfully edit/save files using vi, or even WordPerfect, but I'd
: prefer to use Edit. Is this a known bug? Is there a workaround?
: I'm using Edit Release 3.0 (v74.0.1) on NS 3.0 black.
: --
: Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
: Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
: York University
: 4700 Keele Street
: Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
--
Always looking for a handy place to nap...
peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@cfa.org
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <hm0zYGI.jhepp@delphi.com>
Control: cancel <hm0zYGI.jhepp@delphi.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 94 23:20:56 -0500
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Message-ID: <BI6QQsw.jhepp@delphi.com>
cancel <hm0zYGI.jhepp@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Looking for BSD Unix for NextStation
Message-ID: <CroIBp.1Iy@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2u22mt$436@ugle.unit.no>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 04:40:37 GMT
Rune Sandnes (rune@uranus.ifi.unit.no) wrote:
: We would like to try BSD Unix on our NextStation, but we haven't been
: able to find this port of BSD Unix on any public FTP sites.
: Is it available, and where?
NeXTSTEP's underside is already based on BSD UNIX, with some add-ons and
modifications.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: Re: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de drops commercial support
Message-ID: <1994Jun10.142045.1446@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado
References: <2t8vm3$2g8@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 14:20:45 GMT
Michael McCulloch writes
> The excellent Munich ftp site has dropped support of commercial
> apps. I don't mean to be an alarmist, but given the situation,
> the Internet was about the last site a NEXTSTEP developer can
> advertise his/her wares. No magazine, now no archive support.
> ...
Using Kermit, or any comm program, dial into an
internet provider whose site has the "lynx" program. Then,
in your vt100 window, at the site's prompt, type:
lynx http://stepwise.com
Lynx is a WWW browser. It does not require a direct internet
connection. A vt100 window and dial up connection to any internet
site is all you need. You do not need to be running SLIP.
This allows you to browse many sites, including a number
provided by developers like WhiteLight Systems and Stone Design.
And, you can downloaded software from cs.orst.edu using Stepwise
as an access point. For example, I got OmniWeb from the developer's
site using Stepwise.
(If you have a direct internet connection try OmniWeb)
Stepwise shows a lot of promise. It looks like it will
provide developers an excellent way to advertise their products.
We owe this innovation to Scott Anguish, WhiteLight Systems, and
a small number of sponsors.
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: mengpao@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (mengpao cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Questions about Adaptec 1742 and 1542???
Date: 11 Jun 1994 12:27:31 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Message-ID: <2tcajj$6pj@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
References: <2t8vm3$2g8@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <1994Jun10.142045.1446@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Hello NeXT Fans,
I have a couple of questions really annoying me. Hopefully I can gather
some answers from all of you.
On "NeXTAnswers #1475", it said that the Adaptec 1742 SCSI controller must
be set in "Standard Mode" in order to run NS. It also mentioned that when you
set Adaptec 1742 in "Standard Mode", it is compitable with Adaptec 1542. My
questions are:
1. If we set 1742 in standard mode which is compatible with 1542, can 1742 still take advantage of 32bit EISA board. Or said can 1742 still has the ability to access the memory more than 16MB???
2. Supposely one has EISA motherboard and want to choose either 1742 or 1542 controller. Since 1542 and 1742 are both using the same driver in NS, why
would people pay more for using 1742 instead of using 1542 -- assuming both of them make no difference to each others.
3. I think a lot of fans know that PAS16 and Adaptec 1542 will fight each other in ISA bus motherboard. Is this going to be the same if one use both of them in EISA bus motherboard??? In another hand, assuming both 1542 and 1742 are functioning in the same way (since they are using the same driver), will 1742 and 1542 fight each other in EISA bus motherboard???
Any suggestions or answers will be so appreciated....
Rueiwun Tu
From: rueiwun@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (ruei-wun tu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Questions about Adaptec 1742 and 1542???
Date: 11 Jun 1994 12:41:59 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Message-ID: <2tcben$706@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
References: <SWIET.94May27180750@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> <2sgr5a$rnr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <SWIET.94Jun1062535@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu>
Hello NeXT Fans,
I have a couple of questions really annoying me. Hopefully I can gather
some answers from all of you.
On "NeXTAnswers #1475", it said that the Adaptec 1742 SCSI controller must
be set in "Standard Mode" in order to run NS. It also mentioned that when you
set Adaptec 1742 in "Standard Mode", it is compitable with Adaptec 1542. My
questions are:
1. If we set 1742 in standard mode which is compatible with 1542, can 1742 still take advantage of 32bit EISA board. Or said can 1742 still has the ability to access the memory more than 16MB???
2. Supposely one has EISA motherboard and want to choose either 1742 or 1542 controller. Since 1542 and 1742 are both using the same driver in NS, why
would people pay more for using 1742 instead of using 1542 -- assuming both of them make no difference to each others.
3. I think a lot of fans know that PAS16 and Adaptec 1542 will fight each other in ISA bus motherboard. Is this going to be the same if one use both of them in EISA bus motherboard??? In another hand, assuming both 1542 and 1742 are functioning in the same way (since they are using the same driver), will 1742 and 1542 fight each other in EISA bus motherboard???
Any suggestions or answers will be so appreciated....
Rueiwun Tu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mpman@shamu.micro.umn.edu (milam paraschou)
Subject: Framemaker request
Message-ID: <Cronvq.Eq3@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 06:39:47 GMT
I am looking for a used copy of Framemaker to work with 3.2 for a NeXTStation
and am wondering if anyone has one for sale, if you do, email me with with
a price, thanks.
Milam
mpman@mermaid.micro.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Does File Dragging & Copying Still work on 3.2 Intel??
Message-ID: <CrFCHF.Mws@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2timii$oci@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 05:56:03 GMT
Lones A. Smith (lones@lones.mit.edu) wrote:
: Yes, I know that the alt key now assumes the role of the command key ---
: which makes the online Workspace documentation invalid now --- but still I
: cannot seem to get the GUI interface to move rather than copy. In
: general, do the alt and other keys still work for file dragging? If so,
: how??
Only the LEFT Alt key assumes the role of the NeXT Command key. The RIGHT
Alt key is still Alt.
All of the dragging options are still available. (CTRL=link, ALT=copy,
CMD=move)
What bugs me is that I cannot hole down CMD and up/down arrow with one
hand anymore on intel h/w, leaving the other free for the mouse. I keep a
bigass file viewer window with lots of shelf space. It inevitably covers
most other windows when in front. When dropping a file into another app
(like Mail, Edit) I used to drag the file out of the File Viewer, and
hold it while using the other hand to CMD-Arrow through my other windows
until I found the 'drop' window. I can reach my fingers more than one
octave on a piano, but my fingers just can't make LEFT-ALT-DOWNARROW.
Could I switch the ALT and CMD keys using a keymapping? I never thought
of that before...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.msdos,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
From: mcquain@teal.csn.org (Barry D. McQuain)
Subject: Unix/DOS Serial I/O
Message-ID: <Cr8M6n.4yE@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 14:42:22 GMT
Hi,
I am having a problem sending data from a NeXT computer to a PC via a serial
cable. Using C, the app on the NeXT sends the data out its serial port
(9600, n, 8, 1 - defaults) and the PC recieves it. Unfortunately, the
high order bit gets "set" somehow on some of the data, and the PC is having
trouble receiving this "non-ascii" (>128) data.
For example, If I send the letter "A" (ASCII 65), the PC receives "A" (ASCII
65). If I send the letter "C" (ASCII 67), the PC receives ASCII 195. This
happens on commas and carriage returns (13 becomes 141), etc. Unfortunately,
The PC program that is trying to receive this data is written in Basic, and
it reads in the data using INPUT commands, and since it never sees a comma
or a carriage return, it hangs.
I am looking for a solution. The few suggestions so far have been:
1) Send data using 7 bits. How do I do this from the NeXT side (using C).
2) ASCII mask the data as you send it ... This hasn't worked so far. Does
anyone know how to "fiddle" with the C to do this? (ioctl.h maybe?)
3) Rewrite the Basic in C. Can't, becasue its not my program and it is
about 4000 lines.
Please email or call directly. Fame and fortune awaits those who can help me.
Thanks.
Barry McQuain
mcquain@csn.org
W (303) 923-6500
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Fax Reporting Tools
Message-ID: <1994Jun12.093108.2073@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2tamj7$c6u@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 09:31:08 GMT
In article <2tamj7$c6u@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> wayne@unixg.ubc.ca (Wayne
Henriques) writes:
> Are they any fax reporting tools superior to Fax Reader.
> I send nearly 300 faxes each day, so Mail is also inadequate.
Take a look at /usr/spool/NeXTFaxes/<faxname>/log. It conatins some
useful information that you can reprocess from a script.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: question about .forward
Message-ID: <1994Jun12.093359.2131@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994Jun10.174038.1437@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 09:33:59 GMT
In article <1994Jun10.174038.1437@midway.uchicago.edu>
chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe) writes:
> Sorry for this silly question, but I want for mail sent to my NeXT
> (chwe@mynext.edu) to be both received by my NeXT (chwe@mynext.edu) and
also
> forwarded to another account (chwe@other.edu). I know I need to create
a
> forward file, but what entry do I put in to indicate "Include a copy for
> myself"? I fear that just putting in my NeXT account address
(chwe@mynext.edu)
> will create an infinite mail loop.
In your local .forward file, use a \ to refer to a local mailbox address.
This is intended to prevent loops. For instance:
\chwe
chwe@other.edu
will do what you want.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Date: 12 Jun 94 18:48:06 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.771446886@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <jbn.771355102@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <2teo10$pp@balu.ixpoint.de>
gguelden@ixpoint.de writes:
>Sorry mate, but I think you haven't understood the concepts of pages ...
That comment means nothing without justification and explanation. I
asked a valid question answerable perfectly well by "It now has it",
"It already has it and you apparently missed it" or "I don't know when
it will get it".
--
No NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer: Level market at level 0
Message-ID: <1994Jun15.034856.18950@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <2th5q7$r3p@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 03:48:56 GMT
In article <2th5q7$r3p@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
> In article <1994Jun13.060848.350@rna.nl> gerben@rna.nl
> (Gerben Wierda) writes:
> >The question is why NeXT did not release the sources so far.
>
> How about "it's unbelievably sloppy code written by someone who
> made serious mistakes along the way, didn't have a good grasp
> of what he was dealing with, and public disclosure would be both
> embarrassing for NeXT and unnecessarily damaging to the original
> author's reputation?"
>
> What's clear is that users like the idea behind NewsGrazer, its
> user interface, etc. It badly needs a thorough rewrite--but this
> isn't going to happen without NeXT's support, and shouldn't
> happen against Jayson's wishes.
Does it seem like the c.s.n.* newsgroups go through a soap period just
before Expo?
--
Sincerely,
Neil Greene
From: zet@cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Juergen Zeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Summary] Tools for real software engineering
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:01:32 GMT
Organization: EE Students Computer Pool, University of Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <2u638cEjk2@uni-erlangen.de>
Hello,
last week I asked some questions about tools for OO-programming.
Here are the answers:
Q: Are there any NeXTSTEP CASE-tools for formal OO-design methods?
A: From Dirk P. Fromhein:
> Sorry, I can't help you with the CASE tools... we just don't
> use them (and have found with NeXTSTEP we don't need them).
Statements like this were the most frequent answers!
Q: Are there any Diagram! palettes for the Booch object oriented
design method?
A: From Chris Cleeland:
> I have one of these that I hacked together. I submitted it
> to Lighthouse, so you can ask them.
Q: Do you know a good version management tool?
A: From Alex Blackmore:
> DevMan is the best solution to date, effective GUI needs a little
> improvement but basics are quit good.
Q: Project Builder is a great tool for NeXTSTEP projects, but IMHO it
fails for non GUI-centered code.
A: I didn't know the "Tools-Project" of IB! (Hint from Art Isbell and
Alexander Spohr)
Q: A database is needed in nearly every application. Which solution
would you recommend for a client/server environment?
A: QuickBase got a very good judgement by Dirk Fromhein.
Q: Developing software for non-technical users need knowledge about
their special needs and preferences. Their interactive usage of a
system can not always be tested in advance, so an automatic user
analysis tool should monitor all important transactions with the
system. Does any tool exist for the NeXTSTEP-GUI?
A: None!
Thanks to:
Dirk P. Fromhein (jaeger@watershed.com)
Chris Cleeland (cleelacj%taft.UUCP@goofus.wustl.edu)
Art Isbell (art@cubisol.com)
Alexander Spohr (Alexander_Spohr@dart.de)
Alex Blackmore (alex@saturn.genoa.com)
Bye,
Juergen
zet@cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Voice mail software?
Date: 21 Jun 1994 05:09:02 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <2u5sle$q44@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
My brother-in-law is after voice-mail software for his soon-to-be
obtained Intel. Is there any such beast? He doesn't want just a
silent-answer type modem, he wants a full "For so-and-so, press 1"
type of electronic jungle.
Assuming such a beast exists, what are the hardware requirements?
Thanks!
john
--
-
john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Subject: Re: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de drops commercial support
Message-ID: <1994Jun15.071912.5243@balou.rhein.de>
Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Organization: private NeXT
References: <2th1pj$ma@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 07:19:12 GMT
>> Hi Tommi!
>> I would like the reasons that make you say 'your' site is a
>> proved one! and our is not. And what do you mean when you
>> say we won't have big ftp-sites? do you thing that 600MB of
>> FAT software, Demos, Documentation, etc... are nothig? and
>> the disk capacity is 60% only. We have been running our ftp
>> site for more then two years, allowing access only to Italian
>> Users. This choice was done because we had not the presumption
>> to cover the whole Europe with that site, we thought every
>> User group should have the chance of doing something. A few
>> months ago we decided to open the site to external connections,
>> we thought it was the time, we had enough experience to
>> manage it. Anyway I would not start a long and useless
>> discussion. I'm ready to give my support to
>> ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. What could be a possible
>> solution to buy the 2GB disk?
>>
>> Gianfranco
Hi Gianfranco,
of course you are right. I never wanted to construct hierarchies
or so. I just think it's a pity that muenchen drops the support
of commercial software and if we have the chance to support this
site somehow, we should try this. Furthermore I think it is
needed to have at least one of the "bigger" sites in each country
so that man does not have to ftp long distances.
I don't have a concrete idea how to manage the purchase of the
disk. Maybe somebody from munich has a suggestion?
tommi
------
Thomas Pfleiderer
tommi@balou.rhein.de
voice/fax: +49 2225 701332
NeXT-Mail appreciated.
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP
Date: 12 Jun 1994 10:28:48 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <2teo10$pp@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <jbn.771355102@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
In article <jbn.771355102@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> It's too bad Pages isn't as flexible as Frame. Any word on when Pages
> will support auto-indexing, TOC generation or allow the user to edit
> their own design forms? For as much money as Pages cost, I'm suprised
> the user doesn't have as much control as in Frame.
>
Sorry mate, but I think you haven't understood the concepts of pages ...
Gerd
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig +
+ iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH +
+ Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany +
+ Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 +
+ Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Message-ID: <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk>
Keywords: And don't take "No" for an answer!
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com> <2tbij4$2rm@news.iastate.edu> <jbn.771353964@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 11:26:02 GMT
In article <jbn.771353964@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>
>NeXT seems to want to support it only when they feel like it. They
>want it both ways, in my opinion. They want to offer it MAB when it's
>convenient for them, keep the source code (rather than release it and
>let the public work on it until it works right, adding features we all
>feel are worthwhile) and simultaneously claim it's "unsupported" so
>they don't have to be in any position to fix bugs or add features.
As someone who was once going to write a newsreader for NS, I think NeXT
have handled the situation pretty well actually. Remember that NG was an
unofficial app written by an employee in his spare time. Then it became very
popular, then the guy who wrote it quit. Now what were NeXT supposed to do
with it? In the interests of a "level playing field", they couldn't release
the source or it will have killed off any chance of a commercial newsreader
appearing. They couldn't drop support altogether because with no alternative
available, people had come to rely on it and the pressure for an Intel version
was simply too great. So they've simply done the bare minimum in the way of
support leaving the way clear for a third-party newsreader to come in and
provide all the extra bells and whistles people want.
The only problem with this strategy is that there's no money to be made from
shrink-wrapped apps for NS.
Dave Griffiths
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Address & Phone # for Anderson Financial
Date: 12 Jun 1994 08:36:50 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940612143117.224AACUp.malc@jeeves>
> Two weeks ago I read my credit card number over the phone for
> my upgrade to Paste-Up. Haven't heard a word from AFS. Anybody
> got their phone # handy?
>
> I'm sure they're caught up in the pre-NeXTPO rush but if they've charged
> my card then they should've shipped the product.
>
Here are the contact details for AFS:
Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
909 Sumneytown Pike, Suite 207
Springhouse, PA 19477
215-653-0911
PasteUp@afs.com
To be honest I'd be surprised if they've *charged* your card before they've
shipped...
but rest assured the product is there, and it works!
I think people who've been watching PasteUp's development over the years, and
wishing that it would live up to its incredible potential will be pleasantly
surprised.
It's still not *perfect*, but that wasn't the aim of this release: what is
important is that it is useable, fast, and stays up for hours. (Sorry if this
appears to be damning with faint praise, it's not supposed to be -- try it and
see, you'll like!)
Have fun,
mmalc.
## Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it ##
## was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. ##
## He had won the victory over himself. He loved Bill Gates. 1994 ##
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Address & Phone # for Anderson Financial
Message-ID: <1994Jun11.182901.8809@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 18:29:01 GMT
Two weeks ago I read my credit card number over the phone for
my upgrade to Paste-Up. Haven't heard a word from AFS. Anybody
got their phone # handy?
I'm sure they're caught up in the pre-NeXTPO rush but if they've charged
my card then they should've shipped the product.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
BIX: rlove
-----------------------------------------------------------------
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Enough, already! (was Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup")
Date: 12 Jun 1994 04:12:43 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2teqjb$enu@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2t7ajj$dg3@inxs.concert.net> <2t8bok$e9@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com>
Keywords: Husha you face
Jayson Adams writes:
>> Please Jayson Adams, when will NewsGrazer Pro come out?
>When NeXT released the fat NG, they basically told the world that they're
>supporting the app. Everyone using NG should demand that NeXT fix the bugs
>and add features. And don't forget to ask for a tri-fat version.
Expecting free software to be supported is insane.
Why don't you walk into a car dealership and ask if they'll give you a
free car, and then if they agree say, "Well, now that you've given me the
car, you're obligated to fix it for free if anything breaks."
-Wil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: zsh customization for NEXTSTEP ?
In-Reply-To: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de's message of 11 Jun 1994 16:49:09 GMT
To: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun12130755@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2tcpu5$c4q@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:07:55 GMT
In article <2tcpu5$c4q@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
Just some questions to the infiltrated masses using zsh with NEXTSTEP:
- Is is possible to set the title line of the terminal window to the
current path of the shell ? There's an expample for Xwindows in the zsh
distribution, could this be done with Terminal.app ?
Terminal.app ? No, I don't think so. Stuart.app ? Sure. In the
Stuart preferences change the window title to include the directory
variable. Then add this line to your ~/.zshrc:
chpwd () { osc }
Or, a little faster:
chpwd () { echo -n "^[]3;$PWD^G" }
Note that the '^[' sequence and the the '^G' sequence actually are the
escape and ctrl-g characters. You'd enter them into Emacs by typing
ctrl-q ESC and ctrl-q ctrl-g respectively.
- Has anybody done a completion function for 'open -a XX' ? It would be
nice to list all applications registered by the Workspace. One could even
think about a default completion according to the extension of the file
to be opened ...
From my ~/.zshrc file (contains long lines):
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
allapps ()
{ if ( [[$apps = ""]] ) apps=(/NextApps/*(x:t:r) /LocalApps/*(x:t:r) ~/Apps/*(x:t:r) /LocalDeveloper/Apps/*(x:t:r) /LocalDeveloper/Demos/*(x:t:r) /NextAdmin/*(x:t:r) /NextDeveloper/Apps/*(x:t:r) /NextDeveloper/Demos/*(x:t:r));
reply=$apps; }
compctl -f -x 'c[-1,-a]' -K allapps - 'S[-]' -k (-a -p -o -NXHost -unhide -nostat -wait -temp) -- open appopen unhide run
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Not NEXTSTEP specific: Any 'process name' completion function for the
'kill' command ? Ok, this might be a little bit risky ;-)
Have wanted to do that for a long time but haven't gotten around to it
yet.
- Any other NEXTSTEP/zsh hints ?
Well, some day I'll post my ~/.zshrc. Maybe I'll even comment it.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Compressed texinfo files in Emacs.app distribution?
In-Reply-To: jmm@umich.edu's message of 8 Jun 94 21:06:15 GMT
To: jmm@umich.edu
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun12131619@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <940608140615.201AABqM.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:16:19 GMT
In article <940608140615.201AABqM.jmm@energy7.berkeley.edu> jmm@umich.edu writes:
Why the .gz files? Should info be able to automatically decompress them?
That seems to be implied by the fact that the .gz files were linked over to
/usr/local/info. If so, it ain't happening for me. Before I decompress them
all and recreate the links I'd like to know what's up...?
Yes, that is a problem. Probably it was a mistake to create those
links in the first place. They were intended to make the info pages
accessible to info. But as you so rightly point out, info can't read
gzipped files in any case and having both the info files and the links
in the info path leads Emacs info to display everything in duplicate.
In the latest release those links just aren't any longer made with the
effect that info ignores the Emacs info pages. We'll just have to
hope for a new and improved info which is as smart about multiple info
directories and gzipped info files as the Emacs info mode is.
In the meantime you can gunzip everything in /LocalApps/Emacs.app/info
and move the files themselves over to /usr/local/info (while removing
the now unnecessary links). That should for both info and Emacs.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: NS Emacs - Installing in ~/Apps?
In-Reply-To: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu's message of 8 Jun 94 03:13:14 GMT
To: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun12132403@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2t3d0a$pr9@garuda.csulb.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:24:03 GMT
In article <2t3d0a$pr9@garuda.csulb.edu> vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) writes:
I've used Emacs for NS a bit recently, and I've liked it alot. Problem is
thats I would like to install it in my local ~/Apps directory, but the
install package places it in /LocalApps/ and I wasnt able to copy it over
to ~/Apps and successfully run it.
Any suggestions as to how I can install it in my personal Apps directory
successfully?
This is not entirely trivial. The Emacs.app binary package
intentionally doesn't allow you to set the installation directory as
the distributed Emacs binary wouldn't work anywhere else but in
/LocalApps/Emacs.app. The best solution is to get your sysadmin to
grab the binary package and install it where it wants to live.
If that just isn't a possibility, you can create an Emacs which lives
in your ~/Apps directory. Get the source package and follow these
steps (from the new etc/MACHINES) replacing /LocalApps/Emacs.app with
the full path to your ~/Apps/Emacs.app directory. You probably want
to skip step number 4 below (i.e. not run Emacs.post_install).
Carl Edman
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
NeXT (*-next-*)
Enable support for NeXTstep with the '--with-ns' option or configure
will set it by default if you compile on a NS system and don't ask
for X. If you want to compile with both X and NS support you have
to ask for both of them explicitly.
Emacs 19 for NS will compile both on i386 and m68k machines (as well
as presumably all future NS machines -- there are reports that it
already runs under NS/HPPA). However it will not compile FAT. This
is caused by some truly horrendous acts committed on the binary by
the dumping process and is not likely to change in the near future.
On the other hand, if you really need a fat version of emacs for NS,
there is nothing to prevent you from seperately creating versions
for each architecture you want to support and then using lipo to
combine them to a single fat binary.
To create a binary installation in /LocalApps follow these steps:
1. Run ./configure with the options you otherwise would (possibly
none) with the option '--prefix /LocalApps/Emacs.app' added (and
certainly without the '--run-in-place' option).
2. make
make install
3. ln -s /LocalApps/Emacs.app/bin/emacs /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs
4. ./Emacs.post_install . /LocalApps/Emacs.app
To reduce the total installed size of Emacs.app, you can also take any or
all of these steps:
* cd /LocalApps/Emacs.app
strip bin/* lib/emacs/*/*-next-*/*
/bin/rm -f bin/emacs-*
[ And don't worry about the warnings ]
* cd /LocalApps/Emacs.app/info
gzip *.info*
* cd /LocalApps/Emacs.app/lib/emacs/*/lisp
/bin/rm -f *.el term/*.el
* cd /LocalApps/Emacs.app/lib/emacs/*/etc
/bin/rm -f 3B-MAXMEM AIX.DUMP LEDIT MSDOS Makefile SUN-SUPPORT
/bin/rm -f Xkeymap.txt emacs.icon emacs.xbm emacstool.1 etags.1
/bin/rm -f ctags.1 emacs.1 etags.vms ms-kermit* news.texi termcap*
/bin/rm -f ulimit.hack ledit.l emacs.bash emacs.csh DOC
gzip APPLE BABYL COOKIES COPYING DEBUG DISTRIB MH-E-NEWS
gzip FAQ FTP GNU INTERVIEW JOKES LNEWS LPF MACHINES MAILINGLISTS
gzip MORE.STUFF MOTIVATION O*NEWS ChangeLog ORDERS* OTHER.EMACSES README
gzip SERVICE TERMS TO-DO copying.paper refcard.tex vipcard.tex
gzip echo.msg etags.notes
The GNU project considers the direct operation with NeXTstep a
distraction.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cheap NextStep 3.0 (was: Looking for BSD Unix for NextStation)
Date: 21 Jun 1994 18:55:14 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2u7d2i$ln8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2u5e8k$k4e@ugle.unit.no>
In article <2u5e8k$k4e@ugle.unit.no> rune@uranus.ifi.unit.no (Rune
Sandnes) writes:
> We can't afford an upgrade (unless it's free, we wouldn't know
> Of course, if we got a software upgrade things would look different.
Back before NextStep 3.2 came out, at the local Bay Area NeXT users Group
(BANG) meeting, they were offering free copies of 3.0. Nobody took them
up on the offer, because we all had 3.1 already and were waiting for 3.2.
I have seen 3.0 offered on the net for $70, and that was just the asking
price. I bet you would pay no more than $50 for it. Better yet, spend
$150 a get used copy of 3.1. Then you would get full compatibility with
all NextStep apps. Although 2.x is hopeless, all apps don't run under 3.0
either.
Such a small price is really worth it.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: jbn@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer support (was: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup")
Date: 12 Jun 94 18:51:17 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jbn.771447077@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
References: <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com> <2tbij4$2rm@news.iastate.edu> <jbn.771353964@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk>
Keywords: And don't take "No" for an answer!
dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes:
>Remember that NG was an unofficial app written by an employee in his
>spare time.
But what does "unofficial" mean here? Does it mean that NS users are
not going to get official support from NeXT? If not, then why was
someone (Bryce Jasmer) working on it, receiving mail at
newsgrazer@next.com and providing upgrades and bugfixes? And why was
NeXT in a position of having to respond to Intel user's claims of
needing NG?
>Then it became very popular, then the guy who wrote it quit. Now what
>were NeXT supposed to do with it? In the interests of a "level playing
>field", they couldn't release the source or it will have killed off
>any chance of a commercial newsreader appearing.
I'm not certain that this would have happened because even with
powerful and easily used kits such as the MiscKit I don't see new apps
coming along every other week filling holes in NS functionality.
Also, the source code for newsreaders that do more than NG can do are
freely available, and were at the time when NGpro was announced, yet
people still said they would pay for an NGpro if it provided enhanced
functionality over what they could get with NG.
Even if freely available source code would have killed off any chance
of a commercial newsreader appearing, what's the difference between NG
source code being made available and recompiling NG MAB so all NS
users can use it?
>They couldn't drop support altogether because with no alternative
>available, people had come to rely on it and the pressure for an Intel version
>was simply too great.
At that time, some people relied on a fully operational PhoneKit and
IndexingKit too, but (according to posts in these newsgroups) NeXT
wasn't getting out fixes to these kits either. Also, if the app is
"unofficial" meaning that people should not expect support from NeXT,
why would any such Intel pressure mean a thing to NeXT? If the app
was compiled to meet Intel user requests, can we expect a new MAB
compile when HP users request NG for their box too? Will programmers
like Jayson Adams who apparently feel they have something commercial
to offer in the way of newsreaders feel their efforts have been made
valueless because of an HP compiled version of NG?
>So they've simply done the bare minimum in the way of
>support leaving the way clear for a third-party newsreader to come in and
>provide all the extra bells and whistles people want.
Well, after reading the articles written by someone with an allegedly
mostly-finished newsreader (namely, Jayson Adams of Millenium), I'd
say an opinion to the contrary is being made. Without saying whether
I agree with Jayson Adams or not, what I've picked up of the argument
is that NeXT helped to destroy a captive (possibly paying) NG audience
by providing the MAB version of NG. If NeXT were going to honor their
word that this app would not receive support from NeXT (as they stated
in their Info Panel of the last Motorola-only NG), they would not have
made NG available for all NS platforms at that time. Of course,
nobody could state Jayson Adams' opinion better than Jayson Adams, but
this is what I've understood to be the case.
>The only problem with this strategy is that there's no money to be made from
>shrink-wrapped apps for NS.
I think there is money to be made for shrink-wrapped apps for NS so
long as the apps can compete against what is available on other OSs
and whatever competition exists on NS. In word processors, for
instance, there is currently no NS offering that can compete with what
MS Word, Ami Pro or Word Perfect can offer for the Mac or Windows.
The functionality simply isn't on NS word processors at the same
price. Therefore, there is no reason for me to sink money into an NS
product. [1] Also, I think NeXT needs to do some advertising to
inform the public that NS is available and ready *now* (unlike Cairo,
for example).
NeXT's intentions for this application leave me in a guessing game.
Saying that NeXT just wants to support and not support the app is the
best I can make of reconciling what they said in their Info panel with
their actions in providing a MAB.
[1] I don't believe that NS users should be treated as charities that
should purchase NS products simply because there are NS products
available, nor do I believe that any customer owes a vendor any
allegiance or loyalty. When something better comes along, it's up to
the vendor to either compete or watch sales drop.
--
No NeXTmail please
From: damonc@hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: STANDALONE TRANSSYS SLIP POSSIBLE?
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:01:21 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <damonc.20.2DFB6990@hookup.net>
Is there ANYONE out there that is running a STANDALONE NS box that
is successfully running TransSys PNI SLIP?? I posed a similar question
last week, and I got 31 (THIRTY ONE!!)responses from people looking for help
as well...
Can anyone help? (Please!)
Given a "fresh", standalone machine, install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on it,
what are the steps to follow? Anybody have this working that could
post/upload the config files/etc?
THANK-YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE!!
Damon Cooper
damonc@hookup.net
From: mengpao@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (mengpao cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Question]: Ways to try MusicBuilder???
Date: 20 Jun 1994 10:30:24 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Message-ID: <2u3r40$h6r@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
References: <Cronvq.Eq3@news.cis.umn.edu>
Hello,
I seemsly saw someone post a "long" paragraph about how to try MusicBuilde
r. Can you post it again??? I just downloaded this demo version software and
want to know how does it work.... Thanks
Rueiwun Tu
From: tudhope@hookup.net (Daniel C. Ellison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Slip on NS/FIP 3.2 (q)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 07:23:27 +0500
Organization: Tudhope Associates Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <tudhope-200694072327@tudhope.tor.hookup.net>
References: <qShariff.6.00050126@io.org>
In article <qShariff.6.00050126@io.org>, qShariff@io.org (qShariff) wrote:
> I got the GatorFTP for Intel crashes but it crashes whenever I try to
> download a file although the command line ftp works. And the NewsGrazer takes
> forever to get to the news. And OmniWeb also takes for ever to get a single
> HTLM document.
> The only apps that work decent are the Gopher app and the PopOver app.
>
> And finally there is the biggest problem. The (DTS) data transfer speed.
> Whenever I'm trying to download a file via ftp the max throughput I
> get is 1.2 KBytes/s. Usually the average DTS I get is like 0.5 K/s.
>
> Under windows I don't get any of these problems.
>
> I was wondering if its because I'm using slip (instead of cslip).
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Q
Same thing happens to me. GatorFTP starts a transfer, then stops part way
through. I _can_ abort, but that's not exactly what I want. NewsGrazer is
VERY slow at retrieving the newsgroup list, but that's probably because
there are so many newsgroups. What IS annoying is when it stops right in
the middle of opening the next message, and shows the busy cursor for 3 or
4 minutes (I assume it's checking for new messages). Yikes. OmniWeb is also
_extremely_ slow at loading a new page, and even gives up on occasion.
Archie just plain crashes.
These must be software problems, because all of these applications work
just fine under Windows AND Macintosh, on the same connection. It doesn't
say much about the current state of NeXT Internet software.
Are there any solutions to these problems? Also, is there anything special
I have to do to get Mail.app working? I suspect I have to diddle .mailrc
somehow. Any pointers would be helpful.
--
Daniel C. Ellison Phone: 416-366-7100
Tudhope Associates Inc. Fax: 416-366-7711
International Graphic Design tudhope@hookup.net
From: schmidt@rznext01.rrz.uni-hamburg.de (Andre Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.users
Subject: OmniWeb & Cern proxy server?
Date: 20 Jun 1994 12:21:37 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2u41kh$h93@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
Keywords: www proxy server
Hello,
anyone succeded in using OmniWeb on NEXTSTEP with the Cern proxy server?
Cya
Andre
--
Andre Schmidt *** schmidt@rznext01.rrz.uni-hamburg.de
Regionales Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Hamburg
Schlueterstrasse 70 20146 Hamburg
From: dagole@altus.altus.no (Dag Ole Storrosten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for BSD Unix for NextStation
Date: 22 Jun 1994 09:35:29 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Message-ID: <2u90l1$30e@ratatosk.uninett.no>
References: <2u5e8k$k4e@ugle.unit.no>
In article <2u5e8k$k4e@ugle.unit.no> rune@uranus.ifi.unit.no (Rune
Sandnes) writes:
- there are no
> dealers for Next here, and this is as far as we know the only Next box
in
> town.)
This is absolutely untrue. There are quite a few NeXT users around town,
and there are at least two companies involved in NEXTSTEP development
situated less than 5 minutes from your doorstep at the university......
--
Dag Ole Storrosten email:dagole@altus.no
Altus Interactive as phone: +47-2295 8329
Gaustadalleen 21 fax: +47-2295 8896/+47-2260 4427
N-0371 Oslo Express fax: +47-2295 8318
Norway
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for NeXTSTEP - HP
Message-ID: <Crp72I.D9y@bldrdoc.gov>
Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
References: <2tv84e$eub@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 13:35:05 GMT
Sean O. Luke writes
> Eric S. Boltz (eboltz@cndenext.mrs.jhu.edu) wrote:
> : Well, in general, I find that CS-oriented "researchers" do tend
> : to use C/C++ for lots. When you move over into a field such as
> : multi-dimensional integration, Fourier analysis, 3d wavelet transforms,
> : etc,etc. there just isn't any canned C stuff out there.
>
> Oh, I don't know. Much of this stuff is needed for signal processing and
> scientific computation, both of which have moved from Fortran to C greatly
> in the last few years (from what I've seen)
Hmmm...if this is true could you post some sources?
DSP generally does NOT use multi-dimensional integration and 3d wavelets
are WAY beyond anything done in DSP (to date there is only one 3d wavelet
I know to have been published). Much of the stuff we do is multi-D integration
of fourth order tensors and I've yet to see anything "canned" in C that
supports this type of work...wouldn't mind finding it though!
thanks,
Eric
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: brahm@alembic.com (Lans Brahmantyo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GNU Tar for NS Intel
Date: 21 Jun 1994 17:08:48 -0500
Organization: Q.Ad - Q.Type (NEXTSTEP-based graphic design & type house)
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199406212208.AA24923@alembic.com>
Hello,
Anyone knows whether GNU Tar (latest version) is available for NEXTSTEP Intel?
If so, where can I find one?
Thanks.
...... brahm
Q.Ad, Q.Type
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: andy@dep (Andrew Burday)
Subject: French character set - standard?
Message-ID: <1994Jun21.204209.20349@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 20:42:09 GMT
I need to edit some French text to put on a gopher server. Can anyone
tell me if Edit.app, using the standard Next French keyboard, produces
a standard character set? (I think the character set I have in mind
is ISO 8859, but I'm not sure.) Or does it use some kind of
proprietary character set?
I'm sorry to have to post this, but I don't have any easy access to a
vt220 (or emulator) which would allow me to just create some text and
then look at it to see if it displays properly.
Again, this text is to put on a gopher server, so I need to be sure
that any reasonably standard system (that can display French
characters) will display it correctly. It's not just for my own use
on the NeXT console.
If it makes a difference, I'm running NS 3.0. I also have access to
2.1 and 3.2 (black).
I would prefer e-mail responses.
Thanks in advance,
Andrew Burday
andy@philo.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Enough, already! (was Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup")
Message-ID: <1994Jun12.153000.29518@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Keywords: Husha you face
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <2t8bok$e9@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com> <2teqjb$enu@yucca.omnigroup.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:30:00 GMT
In article <2teqjb$enu@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes:
>Jayson Adams writes:
>
>>> Please Jayson Adams, when will NewsGrazer Pro come out?
>
>>When NeXT released the fat NG, they basically told the world that they're
>>supporting the app. Everyone using NG should demand that NeXT fix the bugs
>>and add features. And don't forget to ask for a tri-fat version.
>
>Expecting free software to be supported is insane.
>
>Why don't you walk into a car dealership and ask if they'll give you a
>free car, and then if they agree say, "Well, now that you've given me the
>car, you're obligated to fix it for free if anything breaks."
>
>-Wil
>
I think someone else made the (good) point that NeXT should either
make it truly free software, and give us the source, or make it
part of NEXTSTEP, and keep the binary. They seem to want to make it
a product of NeXT, while not having to support it. It would be better
for us if they chose to do one or the other. Having the app is nice,
and preferable to having no app, but it would be nice if we could
figure out a way to fix the bugs.
Also, releasing newer versions of NG implies that they are providing
some minimal level of support for NG. Jayson's trepidation over the
number of platforms he can reach with his product, while NeXT has
no firm policy on where NG fits in with NeXT and NEXTSTEP is understandable,
in my opinion.
- darcy
--
<Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve
<It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock
tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink
wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul
From: annard@wft.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tailor.app not working with everything
Date: 21 Jun 1994 22:58:32 +0200
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2u7k9o$gg@theborg.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl>
References: <CrpDxs.tH@euler.hnv.icem.de>
In article <CrpDxs.tH@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
writes:
> In article <CrIFwK.DB@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes:
> > I'm using Tailor.app quite often to transfer files from the Windows
> > environment and NS.
> >
> > Well, quite often, it doesn't work when it does work with Preview.
> > Sometimes, the app even crashes the whole system while just loading the PS
> > pages.
> >
> > If someone knows how to solve my little problems, though, please do write
> > me.
> Really CRASH the system or just SLOW the system?
>
No, there was an PostScript example that really crashed my WindowServer (a
dirty little ps-file generated by some Windog applet) but according to the guys
of FirstClass it has been solved in 2.0. So try out your files in the new
version...
Annard
--
Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth.
- Annard Brouwer
annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
PGP Public Key available on request
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Message-ID: <1994Jun12.214325.3513@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 21:43:25 GMT
In article <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk
(Dave Griffiths) writes:
> As someone who was once going to write a newsreader for NS, I think NeXT
> have handled the situation pretty well actually. Remember that NG was an
> unofficial app written by an employee in his spare time. Then it became
very
> popular, then the guy who wrote it quit. Now what were NeXT supposed to
do
> with it? In the interests of a "level playing field", they couldn't
release
> the source or it will have killed off any chance of a commercial
newsreader
> appearing. They couldn't drop support altogether because with no
alternative
> available, people had come to rely on it and the pressure for an Intel
version
> was simply too great. So they've simply done the bare minimum in the way
of
> support leaving the way clear for a third-party newsreader to come in
and
> provide all the extra bells and whistles people want.
I agree that they did the best they could. Of course, my dream scenario
would that Jayson would have released a threaded news reader for
Motorola/Intel aound September '93, for < $200, and NeXT quietly let
NewsGrazer go away.
It is tempting to speculate that if Jayson had done so, this is what would
have happened. I find it very hard to believe that, however.
> The only problem with this strategy is that there's no money to be made
from
> shrink-wrapped apps for NS.
There's enough people who will disagree with you. Strangely enough, I'm
one of them (thanks to Athena, Sarrus, MetroSoft, Yrrid, Lighthouse, et
alia).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Quits on "Catchup"
Message-ID: <1994Jun12.220854.998@millennium.com>
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
References: <1994Jun10.231425.8546@millennium.com> <2tbij4$2rm@news.iastate.edu> <jbn.771353964@owens.slip.uiuc.edu> <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 22:08:54 GMT
In article <1994Jun12.112602.351@prim.demon.co.uk>, Dave Griffiths writes:
> Now what were NeXT supposed
> to do with it? In the interests of a "level playing field", they couldn't
> release the source or it will have killed off any chance of a commercial
> newsreader appearing.
NeXT doesn't care about third parties or "level playing fields." Their
releasing a MAB version has killed off any chance of a commerial app.
> They couldn't drop support altogether because with no alternative
> available,
Uh, people survived for many months without it, and NGPro was announced and
scheduled to ship in Q1, '94.
> The only problem with this strategy is that there's no money to be made
> from shrink-wrapped apps for NS.
If NeXT would just sell some units, that wouldn't be the case.
__jayson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Subject: NS Users in Pensacola, FL
Message-ID: <15.47583242.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:45:23 GMT
Looking for NeXT Step users in Pensacola, FL. If there are give me a call or
drop me e-mail. Looking to maybe start a NeXT Step Users Group.
Thanks
Mark Pappas
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From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Voice mail software?
Date: 21 Jun 1994 20:34:23 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <2u7isf$l9@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <2u5sle$q44@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
In article <2u5sle$q44@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John
Woodward) writes:
|>My brother-in-law is after voice-mail software for his soon-to-be
|>obtained Intel. Is there any such beast? He doesn't want just a
|>silent-answer type modem, he wants a full "For so-and-so, press 1"
|>type of electronic jungle.
|>
|>Assuming such a beast exists, what are the hardware requirements?
|>
|>Thanks!
|>
|>john
|>
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|>john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
Take a look at I-Link s MIX, from Germany. A very neat package indeed,
distributed through Alembic Systems...
It does all he wants and a lot more - how about different codes for your
friends which will allow them to hear different messages?! It can also do
fax and data.
Only catch is the price, something like 949$ for Intel and 795$ for Black,
including all modules, cheaper if only the answer module...
Best regards
Michael
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From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Date: 22 Jun 1994 01:40:24 +0200
Organization: Contributed Software GbR
Message-ID: <2u7tp8$eml@uropax.contrib.de>
References: <2sjafj$sem@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <CrJMJ4.Au@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Jacques Garbi writes:
>I tried MLProducer but I wasn't able to produce any sound or any sound
>file.
>It seems that I have a problem loading the voices right. I use the Voice
>Manager and drop a voice file in the 'bird' folder. Then nothing happens.
Please, put Folders containing voices into the suitcase with the bird,
not the voice files themselves. If you drag a folder like
<your home>/work/MLVoice over the suitcase, it opens and
shows you what? ... Folders :-)
Since there is no help with the prerelease demo,
I'll send you a short help by e-mail (and anyone interested),
that was written by Malcolm Crawford.
>When I click to make up the sound file, it tells me that voice "high" is
>unknown, although I droped the high voice in the 'bird' folder.
... will work when you tried the method described above.
>Can anyone help me ?
This time I was not on the net for 4 days while doing the manual layout.
Normally I will respond in 1-2 days (nights) - all questions about MusicBuilder
(and any other questions too :-) are welcome.
Ralf
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From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Question]: Ways to try MusicBuilder???
Date: 22 Jun 1994 01:45:32 +0200
Organization: Contributed Software GbR
Message-ID: <2u7u2s$eot@uropax.contrib.de>
References: <Cronvq.Eq3@news.cis.umn.edu> <2u3r40$h6r@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
mengpao@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (mengpao cheng) writes:
>Hello,
> I seemsly saw someone post a "long" paragraph about how to try MusicBuilde
>r. Can you post it again??? I just downloaded this demo version software and
>want to know how does it work.... Thanks
Please, anyone who wants to get it, mail to suckow@contrib.de,
I'll send you the post (with some additions).
Ralf
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: How to print a TIFF file?
Message-ID: <CrrtDp.1CI@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <2u706b$n4k@news.delphi.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 23:32:13 GMT
In article <2u706b$n4k@news.delphi.com> sands8@news.delphi.com (SANDS8@DELPHI.COM) writes:
> I am interested in printing 300 dpi TIFF files
> on my NeXT. When I select the TIFF files the
> IconBuilder application is called up but when
> I use it to print they come out nasty. I've
> had some luck with Diagram 1.0 but I get 3
> blank pages each time I print one page. does
> Anyone know of a nice, preferably command-line,
> way of printing out a 300 dpi TIFF file on
> the NeXT. I'm running 3.1 on a 25Mhz `Station.
Cannot Preview.app display & print 300dpi tiffs?
It works for my tiffs but then I don't know about the dpi.
On what kind of device do you intend to print?
Juergen
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From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: starting shell from command line
Date: 22 Jun 1994 04:37:56 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
One of my favourite aliases on OS/2 and X-windows was to have a new
shell start up running whatever I wanted it to run. As a bonus, on those
two OS's, the title bar of the window reflected the running program's
name.
I really miss that alias. How can I get a new shell window to start up
from the command line? Also, how can I get a window title to reflect
the program I'm running? I looked at the FAQ, but it's above my head.
Also, I want to use tcsh, not bash!
Daniel
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From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: starting shell from command line
Date: 22 Jun 1994 04:46:07 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <2u8fmf$43i@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
References: <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
I hate to do this, but an example of my alias would probably do wonders
to guarantee your understanding of what I want...
My UNIX alias was:
alias int xterm -e \!* &
On OS/2, I think it was:
alias int start /c /b /fs %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 ...
alias intw start /c /b /win %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 ...
(I needed two to have full-screen and windowed version...)
My aliases had the nice property of closing on exit.
I'd like to have something similar that will start up a new terminal
window to run whatever it is that I want to run, then close when I exit
the program.
I used 'int' more than any other command...for instance, I'd
int nn
int rwho
int top
I'd have 'int'd my tail off if I could have. ;)
---
Sheesh, I hate to follow-up to my own post.
Daniel
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From: rune@uranus.ifi.unit.no (Rune Sandnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for BSD Unix for NextStation
Date: 22 Jun 1994 13:01:51 GMT
Organization: Nettverksgruppa - UNIT
Message-ID: <2u9cnv$h1j@ugle.unit.no>
References: <2u5e8k$k4e@ugle.unit.no> <2u90l1$30e@ratatosk.uninett.no>
In article <2u90l1$30e@ratatosk.uninett.no>,
Dag Ole Storrosten <dagole@altus.altus.no> wrote:
>> no dealers for Next here, and this is as far as we know the only Next box
>> in town.)
>This is absolutely untrue. There are quite a few NeXT users around town,
>and there are at least two companies involved in NEXTSTEP development
>situated less than 5 minutes from your doorstep at the university......
>--
>Dag Ole Storrosten email:dagole@altus.no
>Altus Interactive as phone: +47-2295 8329
>Gaustadalleen 21 fax: +47-2295 8896/+47-2260 4427
>N-0371 Oslo Express fax: +47-2295 8318
UNIT - The University of Trondheim is actually in Trondheim, not Oslo.
So it's not exactly a 5 minute walk... Hmm... Approx. 500 kilometers from
Trondheim to Oslo, I use 4-5 minutes on 1 kilometer, that will amount to...
:-) (sorry, just HAD to do it...)
There are environments that use NeXTstep in Oslo and Bergen, but nothing that
I know of in Trondheim (the third largest city of Norway.)
Rune
From: igerard@shadok.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HP scanner
Date: 22 Jun 1994 15:49:17 GMT
Organization: INA, Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Bry-sur-Marne, France
Message-ID: <2u9mht$6ho@wolfy.ina.fr>
Hello,
Is exist a software to scan with the "HP ScanJet IIcx Scanner".
Thanks in advance.
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From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: Re: GNU Tar for NS Intel
Message-ID: <1994Jun22.075348.5474@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
References: <199406212208.AA24923@alembic.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 07:53:48 GMT
In article <199406212208.AA24923@alembic.com> brahm@alembic.com (Lans
Brahmantyo) writes:
> Hello,
>
> Anyone knows whether GNU Tar (latest version) is available for
NEXTSTEP Intel?
> If so, where can I find one?
>
/usr/bin/gnutar
Robert.
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From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 17:45:17 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield
Message-ID: <940622184517.8874AACUK.malc@white>
References: <2u7tp8$eml@uropax.contrib.de> <1994Jun22.070026.1108@jazzpair.freinet.de>
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Here's the original "help" I wrote, with a couple of amendments from Ralf.
Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 23:48:08 +0100 (BST)
From: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Subject: one for music-lovers
To: "comp.sys.next.advocacy" <comp-sys-next-advocacy@cs.utexas.edu>
Cc: "comp.sys.next.software" <comp-sys-next-software@cs.utexas.edu>, Ralf
Suckow <suckow@contrib.de>
Have a look at Ralf Sukow's MusicBuilder (cf press release in csn.announce)!
Gorgeous...!
Since Help isn't implemented yet it's maybe worth a bit of a guide as to how
to get started.
Basically for the demo the thing to look at first is MLProducer, since it is
this which uses bits from everywhere else...
First, make sure you install the "work" folder, you need the things in here to
do anything sensible.
Start ML-Producer: it opens a new document. Drag one of the scores (from
work/MLScore, say Presto-1.score-ml) into the Score well of the new producer,
and one of the orchestras (from work/MLOrchestra, High-Low.orchestra-ml would
be good) into the orchestra well...
Press the Interpret Score button to produce the Raw Notelist; after a while a
document will appear in the well, now press Apply Orchestra, and after another
interlude a document will appear in the Modified Notelist well.
In order for the orchestra to be able to play anything it must have voices, so
bring up the Voice Manager tool, and drag in the MLVoice folder from work into
the briefcase -- wow, another cute icon!
You now have to spin the lower wheel in the Measure Selection panel to the far
right to generate the whole sound, which you do then by clicking Assemble
Voices.
Now sit back and wait a while! And try not to do too much else whilst your
machine's pounding away -- remember this is producing stereo 44kHz sound, so
that 47 second file will be taking up around 8MB, and it's got a lot of
caluculating to do (now we see the real advantages of the DSP in the original
NeXTs!)
When the SND document appears in the Result well, double click to
launch your favourite Sound playing app, and listen and enjoy!
Now go back and start trying to work out how to create a new orchestra...
Maybe you'd care to add a couple more players? Make the orchestra chamber a
bit "bigger"... move the left-hand microphone over a bit, maybe make it a bit
more directional, and get it to home in on a soloist...?
You can!
It should now become clear that you can go back and do your own thing... but
remember you can't save anything in the demo version, so...
Start up MLScore.
Create something, following the principles shown in the examples, e.g.
work/MLScore/Presto-1.score-ml: better still, first, to get a feel for what's
going on, copy a page from Presto-1.score-ml and paste it into a new
doecument.
Now, you can't save this in native format, so tell the app to "Produce
notes".
Save it in a file, e.g. ~/myNotes
[Ralf commented:
> It's interesting you found this way to get around saving, Malcolm,
> since this wasn't the way I planned it ;-)
>
> It's not that you cannot save a document, you only get an empty file.
> Save your score to, let's say, work/MLScore/my.score-ml, but don't
> close the window and don't quit MLScore. You can, of course, hide it.
> Then drag the (empty) my.score-ml to the MLProducer's score well.
> Now you can "Interprete Score". When the MLProducer asks the already
> started MLScore to do it, MLScore will take the loaded score document in
> memory, not the empty file you saved.
>
> The same works with MLOrchestra and with voices you designed
> with MLVoice.
>
> If you want to assign more parts in MLScore.app, you can do it using
> the Modification Inspector:
>
> 1. Select the notes you want make to play another part (hold down shift-key
> when extending the selection).
> 2. Press Command-2 to get the modification inspector.
> 3. Type into the text field "After All Selected Elements"
> (or "After this Element", if you selected a single one) the following
text:
>
> part = "whatYouWant";
>
> and press return.
> This overwrites the part assignment from the normal "part" element.
> 4. Wait a moment or press Command-r to refresh (recalculate resulting
notes).
> 5. Press Command-3 and use the Resulting Note Inspector to
> check if you got what you want.
>
> This is, of course, not the most elegant way, but it shows that
> the modification inspector is something like the "Universal Workaround
Tool".
>
> -> Whishlist entry: "Function to Find and select all elements with
> <parameter> equal to <value>", e.g part == "whatYouWant".
>]
Now start up MLOrchestra and open, or just double-click on,
work/MLOrchestra/High-Low.orchestra-ml
You'll probably be getting the picture by now -- see the possibilities?!
Now, arrange your own orchestra. You only have two parts, high and low, but
you can still do creative things. Move a mike to one side, bring up the
Inspector, and change its field! :-))
Add another chap on the righthand side, make him play te low part, but with
the high voice -- wait: don't copy and paste -- it'll crash (Ralf, a bug here
perhaps?).
[Ralf:
> I'm sorry for that. It is a result of the player not to be stored correctly
> onto the pasteboard in the demo version since I've removed the storing
> code of all elements ;-( It works in the full release, though.
> ]
Once you're through (and at this stage you'll prabably not want to do too much
before getting to the production bit!), remember again you can't save
anything, so again "Process notes"... open ~/myNotes: they'll be read in and
then immediately you'l be asked for a file to save them in, how about
~/myNotes.orchestrated.
Now go back to MLProducer. Create an new production...
Now you can drag ~/myNotes.orchestrated right into the Modified Notelist well.
MLProducer already knows about the Voices you'll need, so just hit Assemble
Voices...
The following, for Raf, came in response to comments etc. from
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland)
>Questions/comments for Ralf:
>- I didn't see any official release info with the demo package. When
> is the real thing coming, and at what price? (Email this if you
> don't want to risk offending the net.gods. :~)
Scheduled for July 94, with a price near DM 299 ($200). No idea
about distribution to US at this moment. I gave a price now, once
and without repetition. So it doesn't make sense to start flame
wars - i won't do it anymore ;-) This single-user license
will include free minor upgrades for a period of time.
>- Ways to speed-enter scores would be very useful. E.g. keyboard a-g
> for notes, other short-cuts for note duration, etc;
The most important thing is to have input from MIDI - it is
the fastest way and is planned for 1.2.
Entering notes - try Alt-drag from the previous note.
Note duration - try arrow-up / down keys.
>ways to
> replicate keys, time signatures, etc. across bars.
I'm not shure I understood exactly what you mean. Try Alt-drag.
Keys are in effect until the end of the staff, time signatures
over staff boundaries until the next time signature.
Nevertheless, MLScore is at it's very beginning, let's see what
the future will show.
>- There are some little gremlins with the interface. E.g. dragging
> pallette elements in MLScore, and then dropping them on the pallette
> itself leaves some clutter behind;
The view you drag to tries to show you where it will place
the element when you drop it. With mouse moving this looks
like clutter. But - it's not a bug, it's a feature :-)
Maybe I'll give it a better optical view by only drawing a shadow -
let's see.
---
This is amazing stuff, with wonderful icons to boot (it's worth getting the
app just for them!) -- well done Ralf (and well done Ralf's mum who did the
icons!)!
I'd love to hear what everybody else thinks about this.
It's not my area at all, but I can see possibilities for Music schools in
particular for letting students try out different spatial arrangements of
virtual orchestras in different size rooms etc. in ways they'd never be able
to in the real world...
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
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From: pcu@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: starting shell from command line
Date: 22 Jun 1994 17:53:36 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
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References: <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
In article <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C.
L'Hommedieu) writes:
> two OS's, the title bar of the window reflected the running program's
To set the title bar of a csh in Terminal, use command-T (upper case).
> I really miss that alias. How can I get a new shell window to start up
> from the command line? Also, how can I get a window title to reflect
I would look in DL under open and NXHost. I'm not sure it's exactly what you
want but....
You also might be able to automate this via dwrites.
If you do, send me a instructionlet.
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From: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de
Subject: Re: How to print a TIFF file?
Message-ID: <1994Jun22.065702.1001@jazzpair.freinet.de>
Sender: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de (marcus rvbsamen)
Organization: Ruby's private musicbox
References: <CrrtDp.1CI@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 06:57:02 GMT
In article <CrrtDp.1CI@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen
Sell) writes:
> In article <2u706b$n4k@news.delphi.com> sands8@news.delphi.com
(SANDS8@DELPHI.COM) writes:
> > I am interested in printing 300 dpi TIFF files
> > on my NeXT. When I select the TIFF files the
> > IconBuilder application is called up but when
> > I use it to print they come out nasty. I've
> > had some luck with Diagram 1.0 but I get 3
> > blank pages each time I print one page. does
> > Anyone know of a nice, preferably command-line,
> > way of printing out a 300 dpi TIFF file on
> > the NeXT. I'm running 3.1 on a 25Mhz `Station.
>
> Cannot Preview.app display & print 300dpi tiffs?
> It works for my tiffs but then I don't know about the dpi.
> On what kind of device do you intend to print?
> Juergen
> ---
> Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617
> == What time do we live in when firing people gets called
{right,down}sizing,
> == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
Certainly you can open and print tiffs with Preview. Since Preview works
with postscript and uses the internal rip (raster image processor) you can
print the tiff file the same way like a postscript file. You just have to
choose preview in the tool panel of the inspector. Another way to see and
print tiff files is using ImageViewer.app. This can read nearly all kinds
of different formats.
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From: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de
Subject: Re: one for music-lovers
Message-ID: <1994Jun22.070026.1108@jazzpair.freinet.de>
Sender: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de (marcus rvbsamen)
Organization: Ruby's private musicbox
References: <2u7tp8$eml@uropax.contrib.de>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 07:00:26 GMT
In article <2u7tp8$eml@uropax.contrib.de> suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf
Suckow) writes:
> Jacques Garbi writes:
>
> >I tried MLProducer but I wasn't able to produce any sound or any sound
> >file.
>
> >It seems that I have a problem loading the voices right. I use the
Voice
> >Manager and drop a voice file in the 'bird' folder. Then nothing
happens.
>
> Please, put Folders containing voices into the suitcase with the bird,
> not the voice files themselves. If you drag a folder like
> <your home>/work/MLVoice over the suitcase, it opens and
> shows you what? ... Folders :-)
> Since there is no help with the prerelease demo,
> I'll send you a short help by e-mail (and anyone interested),
> that was written by Malcolm Crawford.
>
> >When I click to make up the sound file, it tells me that voice "high"
is
> >unknown, although I droped the high voice in the 'bird' folder.
> ... will work when you tried the method described above.
>
> >Can anyone help me ?
>
> This time I was not on the net for 4 days while doing the manual layout.
> Normally I will respond in 1-2 days (nights) - all questions about
MusicBuilder
> (and any other questions too :-) are welcome.
>
> Ralf
> --
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> suckow@contrib.de | --- new signature still under construction ---
CIHI,
I wasn t here for the last couple weeks. Can anybody send me some
information about this program?
Thanks,
Marcus
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Solicit me your software!
Date: 22 Jun 1994 19:41:16 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2ua44s$soe@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I posted this once before and got very few responces.
I want to buy software for NeXTSTEP for Intel.
I lose my student status in August so I want to buy now.
I do not molecular software, etc.
Please, send me info on database software including things that I can access
with DBkit, desktop publishing, graphics, games, business software,
or anything you think I may like.
please, no not forget to inlcude Academic pricing information.
thank you very much.
Gary
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From: cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles Winthrop Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MBONE for black hardware
Date: 22 Jun 1994 20:34:43 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <2ua793$9k0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has obtained and
used the MBONE sofware for multicasting on black hardware.
Charles Clark
National Institute of Standards and Technology
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From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: starting shell from command line
Message-ID: <Crt1q6.86J@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 15:30:05 GMT
Daniel C. L'Hommedieu writes
> One of my favourite aliases on OS/2 and X-windows was to have a new
> shell start up running whatever I wanted it to run. As a bonus, on those
> two OS's, the title bar of the window reflected the running program's
> name.
> I really miss that alias. How can I get a new shell window to start up
> from the command line? Also, how can I get a window title to reflect
> the program I'm running?
For black hardware, get Stuart.app from the archives
(sonata.cc.purdue.edu, 2.0 binaries I think)
It does everything you ask and more.
Stuart comes with a command utility called soil that will start a new shell.
You can set all kinds of preferences on the command line
to specify the program to run, the host, the window title etc, so you can
can come up with all the custom aliases you can dream up.
It also allows several ways to alter the title bar dynamically,
including understanding xterm type control sequences.
Of course, if you just want a new shell window, you can just press command-N.
> Also, I want to use tcsh, not bash!
good taste.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
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From: tfletche@uglz.UVic.CA (Thomas Fletcher)
Subject: How to access Floppy Drive
Message-ID: <1994Jun22.203438.1039@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 20:34:38 GMT
Hello all,
I am having difficulty accessing the floppy drive of our NeXT
machine using the "dd" command. I have tried various devices
to no avail. Can anyone help me out with this? I want to
put the Linux files on disk and to do that I need to write to
the blocks of the fd itself.
The command that I want to execute is:
dd if=SOMEFILE of=/dev/FLOPPY_DEVICE obs=18k
We are running NeXT mach kernel 3.0 ...
Thanks in Advance,
Thomas
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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McPherson Library Rm. 318 (Study Carrel)
Office (604) 721-8263
tfletche@malahat.library.uvic.ca
tfletche@engr.uvic.ca
Supervisor:
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Office: (604)721-7623 FAX: (604) 721-8215
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: starting shell from command line
Message-ID: <CrtLFv.Buv@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <Crt1q6.86J@genoa.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 22:35:55 GMT
Alex Blakemore (alex@cs.umd.edu) wrote:
: For black hardware, get Stuart.app from the archives
: (sonata.cc.purdue.edu, 2.0 binaries I think)
: It does everything you ask and more.
Can anyone direct me to an Intel or FAT version of Stuart anywhere?
: > Also, I want to use tcsh, not bash!
: good taste.
Correct. :-)
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: jtod@access3.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: httpd setup query...
Date: 23 Jun 1994 03:16:51 GMT
Organization: Wit's End
Message-ID: <2uaur3$8vv@news1.digex.net>
Summary: Need a hand with one catch on httpd on NeXT
Keywords: HTTPD, NeXT, WWW
I'm setting up my machine as an experimental HTTP server, and I've run
across a snag. I've go the httpd_2.1 binaries from the archives, and I'm
installing the rest of the files from the 1.3 source distribution. I
installed everything according to directions, (I even set everything as the
defaults show, like making my ServerRoot directory /usr/local/etc/httpd and
I've configured nothing out of the ordinary - I just want to get this to
work AT ALL) and when I attempt to run httpd, I get either: a)a slew of
errors, or b)nothing at all; depending on what command line I use to start
up httpd. I've even put a copy of httpd.conf in /etc, since when I did a
"strings httpd|grep etc" I got a match. Anyway, here is the capture from my
latest attempts.
Any clues? What's the proper command line to start httpd? Or is there
something else wrong here? (I'm doing all this as root, of course.)
138 redfox# httpd&
[1] 1099
139 redfox# HTRule: Bad rule erverType standalone
'
HTRule: Bad rule ort 80
'
HTRule: Bad rule ser nobody
'
HTRule: Insufficient operands: Group
HTRule: Bad rule erverAdmin webmaster@redfox.digex.net
'
HTRule: Bad rule erverRoot /usr/local/etc/httpd
'
HTRule: Bad rule rrorLog logs/error_log
'
HTRule: Bad rule ransferLog logs/access_log
'
HTRule: Bad rule idFile logs/httpd.pid
'
[1] + Stopped (tty input) httpd
[I killed the first httpd process from another window here]
139 redfox# httpd -f /usr/local/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf -d
/usr/local/etc/httpd&
[2] 1107
140 redfox#
[2] + Stopped (tty input) httpd -f /usr/local/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf -d
/usr/local/etc/httpd
140 redfox#
--
John Todd -- Sales
Digital Express Group - An Internet Access Provider
Voice: 1-800-969-9090 FAX: 1-301-220-0477
jtodd@digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Kjell.Borg@um.erisoft.se (Kjell Borg)
Subject: Re: Frame announces FrameMaker 3.2 for NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Jun22.113301.23440@um.erisoft.se>
Sender: usenet@um.erisoft.se (For NNTP posting)
Organization: Erisoft AB Umea Sweden
References: <2ttbr4$lhi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 11:33:01 GMT
>FRAME TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION ANNOUNCES FRAMEMAKER 3 ON NEXTSTEP FOR
>INTEL
Why isn't Framemaker 4 announced/ported?
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: housetop accent (accent circonflexe)
Date: 23 Jun 1994 05:31:29 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ub6nh$av8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Does anybody with the NeXTUSA keyboard know how to get the little
housetop-shaped, upside down V accent that goes over certain vowels in
French? I can get the double dots and the forward and backward slanty
lines over the vowels, and I can even get the little squiggle under the C.
However, I can't get the housetop accent.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: horshack@lisa.franken.de (Richard Lippmann)
Subject: Software 4 children
Message-ID: <1994Jun22.183259.1457@lisa.franken.de>
Sender: usenet@lisa.franken.de (usenetbenutzer)
Organization: Kommunikationsnetz Franken e.V.
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 18:32:59 GMT
My 3 years old little boy likes to play on my computer (NS-Intel
3.2). Are there any games? A good one I found was a puzzle-game.
Answer as email please,
Horshack
--
Richard Lippmann Nur Beamte koennen wie...
phone voice: +49+911+69.84.58 ... Beamte denken
mail : horshack@lisa.franken.de (welcome NeXTmail!)
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MBONE for black hardware
Date: 23 Jun 1994 05:48:11 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <2ub7mr$f6g@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <2ua793$9k0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
In article <2ua793$9k0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles Winthrop Clark) writes:
>
>I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has obtained and
>used the MBONE sofware for multicasting on black hardware.
>
>Charles Clark
>National Institute of Standards and Technology
>
This is not currently possible because there is no IP multi-casting
support in the kernel. 3.3 will have IP multi-cast, at which point it will
be theoretically possible to support the MBONE tools, but the won't spring up
overnight.
Rich Ogata
rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Does 3.1 dev mix well with 3.2 user?
Message-ID: <espritCrtszq.89D@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 01:19:02 GMT
I got some NeXT (black) software that needs 3.2. My system is running
3.1. Do I need to get 3.2 User AND Developer if I wish to continue
doing NeXT software development or can I get by with 3.2 user and 3.1
developer?
Incidentally, what's different between 3.1 and 3.2 that would cause
software not to work on one and work on the other? Also, is anything
unbundled in 3.2 that was bundled in 3.1?
--
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds
alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and
esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
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From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0
Message-ID: <1994Jul5.180149.611@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
References: <2vbphm$2c5j@campus.mty.itesm.mx>
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 18:01:49 GMT
In article <2vbphm$2c5j@campus.mty.itesm.mx> hvillega@roxette (Hugo
Villegas Roji) writes:
> Gianfranco Ciardo (ciardo@cs.wm.edu) wrote:
> : Where can I buy Virtuoso 2.0 (academic) for a reasonable price?
>
> Gianfranco:
>
> You can ask Lorin, he is sales manager of Altsys the company which
make Virtuoso. I 'm using a Beta version and I think is wonerfull.
>
Well, it is my understanding you need to go through Altsys's new sole
Virtuoso distributor, GS Corporation. I am sure Lorin will be more then
helpfull in assisting you, but you can also contact GS.
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: SoftPC 3.0
Message-ID: <CsHnFB.GJI@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: One way to get 286+ performance
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 22:21:11 GMT
Okay, I agree that SoftPC for the NeXT Black sucks beyond
a 5 atmosphere pressure gradient (have you ever had it so gooood).
Humor aside, I have just finished installing SoftPC 3.0 for the Mac
on my NeXT using the Daydream Box to emulate a Mac. I am not
overwhelmed by the performance but I have run several apps including
a compiler and all is fine. It works like a high end 286 or a low end
386. It shines when compared to the NeXT version. I was suprized
to see how the emulation worked on top of emulation. I was satisfied
but it only made sense since I was already in posesion of a
Day dream box AND I purchased SoftPC from an acquaintance for $60.
I will upgrade to SoftPC with Windows next week. If anyone is
interested, e-mail me and I will let you know how it works.
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Again, Statistical S/W for NeXT; S-PLUS
Message-ID: <mohan.773447001@husc4.harvard.edu>
From: mohan@husc4.harvard.edu (Mohan Penubarti)
Date: 5 Jul 94 22:23:21 GMT
References: <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <2vbpus$msk@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes:
>A couple of months ago there was a net lobbying effort to get StatSci to
>port their statistical/data analysis package S-PLUS to NEXTSTEP or to at
>least get a version going that will run on an X emulator. Has anyone
>heard anything else on this?
>--
>Dr. Mark D. Powell
[Information on the S-PLUS effort is below...]
I am aware of the following statistical software for NEXTSTEP:
* SAS by SAS Institute, Inc.
* TSP by TSP International; contact Clint Cummins on (415) 326 1927 or
at clint@leland.stanford.edu.
* SHAZAM by University of British Columbia; contact Kenneth White at
ken@unixg.ubc.ca.
* RATS by VAR Econometrics
* SST; contact jad@lear.caltech.edu
* BLSS by UC Berkeley Statistics Department
and,
* S by AT&T Bell Labs; S-PLUS by StatSci; contact mktg@statsci.com or
(206) 283 8802.
S-PLUS 3.0 was ported to NEXTSTEP 2.x for NeXT machines; the current
version of S-PLUS is 3.2 which has not been ported to NEXTSTEP. Further,
the 3.0 version runs only on NeXT machines. I started a drive to get
StatSci to port the current version of S-PLUS to NEXTSTEP as a MAB
and Thomas Christie of StatSci informed me that they would consider it
at their next product review meeting. Apparently, the time frame
from decision to port to initial release is about six months. S-PLUS 4.0
is scheduled to be released toward the end of this year, it seems, so
this is not a problem. In the meanwhile, I have asked if they would
recompile S-PLUS 3.0 under NEXTSTEP 3.2 so that it can used on the
Intel and HP platforms. I am awaiting a reply from Tom Conlon who is
the Product Manager for S-PLUS. I will post his response to this
group as soon as I receive it. If you are interested in the NEXTSTEP
port of S-PLUS and haven't already contacted StatSci, please contact
Tom Conlon at tom@statsci.com.
Mohan Penubarti
<mohan@husc.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2
Message-ID: <1994Jul5.164754.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 00:47:54 GMT
I'm trying to locate image display software for NSI 3.2 (white).
Most immediately, I need a GIF viewer (any GIF viewer!). In the
back of my mind is a desire to also handle JPEG, and possibly PICT
(Macintosh) files, etc.
Now I know that XV can handle these and more. I also know that
I can get a version of XV that runs on NSI. But the display is
still through X-windows, e.g., co-eXist. Since I can run the client
XV on any number of other hosts, I don't really need one to run on
NeXT (except it's going to be a bit hard to get at the CD-ROM...).
I'm looking for a native NeXT application. I've browsed around
cs.orst.edu and found NextGIF, which failed in the make, and
ViewGIF3.0.1. The latter is not yet available (in demo form anyway)
for white hardware, and my mail bounced trying to reach the author,
Michael McCulloch <mmcculloch@nebula.tbe.com>. Michael, if you're
out there, could you contact me at the address in my sig?
So, my question is, what is your favorite graphics viewer,
specifically for GIF files, but also anything that will handle JPEG,
and possibly other formats? I'm not interested in a full-blown
image processing application, just a simple viewer (although,
conversion between formats would be a plus). Commercial as well as
shareware and public domain software will be considered, but I don't
need much (I think!) so I'm not going to go for a high-end multi-
media $$$ package.
Thanks, Ken
P.S. Anyone gotten NextGIF to make under NSI? Want to share your
secrets with me??? :-)
--
Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu
SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98 | DECnet: 45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX)
Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: (415) 926-2924 FAX: (415) 926-4335
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These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: RE: WANTED: Enterprise Object Framework
Date: 5 Jul 1994 23:03:14 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2vcorj$br6@news.worldlink.com>
Is anyone who received the Enterpise Objects Framework [EOF]
app at the conference willing to sell their's? If so, I am
interested.
Has anyone used the app? Does anyone know what particular
advantages it holds over developing using DB-Kit? I am more
interested in what someone has experienced as opposed to what
someone has heard.
Thanks in advance.
Peace,
James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.EDU (Kevin H. Weiss)
Subject: Need Software for Back-UPS
Message-ID: <CsHu4K.D0@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 00:45:55 GMT
Does there exists software for the Back-UPS U.P.S. made by APC?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
kevin
--------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Weiss Department of Mathematics
khw2x@sonja.math.Virginia.edu (NeXT mail) University of Virginia
khw2x@virginia.edu (Non-NeXT mail)
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTmail Message PBoard and TickleServices ?
Date: 6 Jul 1994 01:12:13 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2vd0dd$9s6@rosie.next.com>
References: <2v3cgs$65m@aragorn.unibe.ch>
In article <2v3cgs$65m@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz
Willers) writes:
> [...]
>
> And if I'd upgrade to 3.3 could I still use the 3.2 Developer stuff (as
> there is none in 3.3) ?
Yes.
(How about that for a short, concise, and unambiguous answer! I wonder why it
is that they don't let me work in marketing? ;-)
--Lennart
From: amir@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap?
Date: 6 Jul 1994 01:18:01 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2vd0o9$9sc@rosie.next.com>
References: <2vc1so$4rn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Let me step in and clarify one important point, which most people are
aware of but usually seems to get lost in SoftPC discussions: SoftPC for
NEXTSTEP/Intel is fundamentally quite different than SoftPC on NeXT 68K
computers (and all other ports of SoftPC for that matter).
SoftPC for NEXTSTEP/Intel takes advantage of the native 486 processor to
dramatically improve performance. For those who have used both versions,
you will have noticed the difference immediately. The Intel version of
SoftPC yields emulation performance of a 486-class PC running native
DOS/Windows.
The NeXT computer (68K) version completely emulates the Intel 286 in
software, and yields 286-class performance. That version can not be any
faster than it is today. For certain uses, such as basic word processing
and spreadsheets, customers find the performance acceptable. Software
which needs fast CPU performance or fast drawing will be more painful to
use. And as mentioned earlier, more RAM and an 68040 based NeXT computer
will do better.
A 30-day demo version of SoftPC for NEXTSTEP/Intel is included with
NEXTSTEP 3.2 (and later versions). If you have problems installing and
using it, call Insignia technical support.
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: sendmail 8.6.9
Date: 6 Jul 1994 01:57:57 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vd335$9uk@rosie.next.com>
References: <Ii6QUI200iV1M64txC@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <Ii6QUI200iV1M64txC@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 5-Jul-94 sendmail 8.6.9 by
> Surbhi Kaul@cs.tamu.edu
> > [...]
> >
> > I keep getting error msg
> >
> > "mail: unknown option i"
> >
> > eveytime I try mailing.
> > Could someone explain what this means?
>
> Mail.app uses this flag for unknown reasons whenever it sends mail. I
> have no idea what it is supposed to do to/with NeXT's version of
> sendmail provided with NEXTSTEP 2.x.
>
> The solution is to hack the command-line option code to recognize and
> ignore that flag. (sendmail *exits* if it finds an unrecognized option
> on the command line!)
Close, but not quite. Mail.app doesn't use the "-i" flag, but /usr/ucb/mail
does. The "-i" flag is an old compatibility flag that means the same as
"-oi", ie. don't let a single dot on a line end the message. It's been
supported by sendmail for as long as I can remember but I guess Eric decided
it was time to remove it in v8.
However, you are right in that older, pre 3.0 versions of Mail.app used to
supply a bogus "-Om" flag to sendmail. This looks like a typo for "-om",
which tells sendmail to not exclude the sender in messages that are sent to
mailing lists. However, it only has effect if the local sendmail is the list
processor, so it is of little use in an environment with a separate mailhost.
(The reason why this wasn't noticed right away is that sendmail v5 -- unlike
v8, I presume -- *doesn't* check for invalid arguments.)
One last thing, though. Does the original message really say "mail: ..."? If
so, it looks like it might come from /bin/mail instead of sendmail and you
should check sendmail.cf to make sure that no "-i" flag is specified in the
local mailer definition.
Cheers,
--Lennart Lovstrand
NeXT Software Engineering
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel)
Subject: Re: SoftPC 3.0
Message-ID: <1994Jul6.014258.2416@cs.rit.edu>
Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin)
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY
References: <CsHnFB.GJI@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 01:42:58 GMT
Wow, so Soft PC on the Next ran faster on the Next using the mac
emulator?
I guess one main reason is the overhead of a unix operating system. I
would still think that the NS OS is better for use in day to day work,
but it's nice to know there is a faster way to use SoftPC.
>I will upgrade to SoftPC with Windows next week. If anyone is
>interested, e-mail me and I will let you know how it works.
Please do, this is interesting.
HN
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RE: WANTED: Enterprise Object Framework
Date: 6 Jul 1994 01:10:40 -0300
Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network
Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca
Message-ID: <17817.seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca>
To: p00378@psilink.com
The EOF package is not for sale... it is a Beta release. NeXT would
probably take anyone to task over selling their Beta release.
As for the app, well it has a lot of advantages over DBKit. UI design is
faster, there is no code for many of the features you might need and over
the multiple steps required for the same functions in DBKit it is a
blessing.
The app is definitely more robust, though the new IB has a tendency to
crash a bit too frequently for my taste - of course, this is a Beta.
The documentation is much better than the DBKit docs. Unfortunately, if you
do not use either Sybase or Oracle, you won't be able to use the Beta as it
stands as the adaptors used with the DBKit are NOT compatible with EOF. I
found that out as I use GUPTA SQLBase.
If you are unable to get a copy of Beta through NeXT themselves, I can send
you my musings regarding the EOF package. We are currently redesigning our
system - a policing information system - using EOF. With over 700 screens,
and 200 tables cross-referenced on over 500+ different fields, I am sure I
will be able to give you a real world analysis in a couple of weeks (Our
redesign is being redone over the next 30 days).
Let me know how you make out
Cheers,
Todd.
--
Todd White
Phoenix Project
SEINS
seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Trn 3.5 on Nextstep 3.2
Date: 06 Jul 1994 00:51:37 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul6015138@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com> <CsFKqK.1uq@basil.icce.rug.nl>
To: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman)
In-reply-to: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl's message of Mon, 4 Jul 1994 19:27:56 GMT
<tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> writes:
>In article <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com> paul@cgh.cgh.com (Paul Homchick)
>writes:
>>I have a NeXT Cube running NS 3.2. I have been running trn v2.2 and
>>the mthreads that came with trn 2.0 for quite a while now (3 years?).
>>I just tried upgrading to trn v3.5 and mthreads v3.1 and had a
>>terrible time.
>>
>>If I compile trn 3.5 (only one change needed to what Configure wanted:
>>"-D_POSIX_SOURCES") it "runs" fine, but it can't find any articles.
>[woes deleted]
>>I restored the old trn and mthreads and am pondering what to do next.
>>A Guess: something with the NeXT <dirent> support and the new article
>>reading code in mthreads/trn is amiss. It is as if the new programs
>>cannot open any articles.
>>
>>How does my guess sound? Any others?
>Sounds plausible. The POSIXy `struct dirent' and BSDish `struct direct' are
>incompatible in NS3.2. So you _must_ link in the posix library in order to use
>`struct dirent', i.e. compile with "cc -posix" instead of "cc -D_POSIX_SOURCE".
A better suggestion would be to edit the config.sh and make sure it's
using sys/dir.h and not dirent
trn 3.4.1 built find in 3.2 so I see no reason why 4.5 won't work.
--
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From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: Doom! for black
Message-ID: <1994Jul6.054119.18111@seas.smu.edu>
Sender: news@seas.smu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 05:41:19 GMT
I have recently downloaded DOOM from cs.orst.edu. I noticed that
it did not have sound support, so I downloaded the sound files
from CompuServe. Now, where do I put these files? (actually, it
is a folder named DoomSounds, with dozens of files in it) i tried
putting the folder in the Doom.app and DoomLaunch folders, to no
avail. Any ideas?
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From: joker@balou.rhein.de (Joachim Hartmann)
Subject: Experiences with OCR-Software needed
Message-ID: <1994Jul6.062218.2006@balou.rhein.de>
Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Organization: private NeXT
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 06:22:18 GMT
Hi,
is there anybody who could mail me her/his experiences with OCR-software?
Thanks in advance,
joker
---
Joachim Hartmann
joker@balou.rhein.de
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From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0
Message-ID: <1994Jul6.043321.8844@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
References: <2vcbl6$6us@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 04:33:21 GMT
In article <2vcbl6$6us@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu
(Paul Cardon) writes:
> In article <2vc91v$4o6@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu
> (Sean O. Luke) writes:
> After finally meeting him at EXPO, I have to say that he would make one
> very unattractive woman. Remember the Bud Light ladies night commercial?
> :-) I would definitely consider putting him in goal on a lacrosse team
> though if he can handle the stick. It takes a good stocky guy who can
> move. (Ever played lacrosse Lorin?)
These NeXT newsgroups are getting great! Nose level is kinda high, but, I
about busted a gut picturing Lorin dressed up as a women in one of the Bud
Light commericals. Gimma a ring if you get any offers Lorin, I wanna be
there for the filming.
-- Neil
--
Sincerely,
Neil Greene
From: ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Acrobat
Date: 6 Jul 1994 07:47:51 GMT
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Message-ID: <2vdnj7$gt5@nkosi.well.com>
References: <CsCJFA.F9F@cunews.carleton.ca> <2vchjv$3ii@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Steve Weintz writes:
> Most impressive news: Clorox is moving its entire
> in-house design group to NS! All those consumer-product
> labels will be straight from ther Display PostScript we
> know and love. And, they've told their service bureaus to
> get NS systems with Tailor, etc. if they want to keep
> Clorox' business! The chief designer said that a Mac
> network couldn't cut a true workgroup environment (and
> he looked at a number of state-of-the-art computerized
> design studios).
Actually, it hasn't been necessary to pressure our service
bureaus or design agencies into going with NS. The vast majority
of them are expressing deep interest in adding this OS to their
shops just from what they've overheard in our offices
during the last 3 months. I decided to go with the soft-sell
and let the NS environment sell itself.
Most of our vendors will be installing one basic NS DTP system
at each of their offices. I suspect that after they "crack"
open their first broken .eps file and fix it with Tailor they'll
be calling for more systems; more memory; more apps ...
more business!
Cheers Steve,
Michael Rutchik
Clorox
ludwig2@itsa.ucsf.edu
(NeXTmail NeXTmonth if all goes well)
From: kosower@wasa.saclay.cea.fr (David A. Kosower)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Minitel emulator for NeXTstep
Date: 6 Jul 1994 09:14:54 GMT
Organization: Commissariat a l'Energie Atomique (CEA), France.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vdsme$jfr@anemone.saclay.cea.fr>
I'd appreciate information on such software, if it exists. I'd also
appreciate a direct reply, since our news server has occasional temper
tantrums.
Thanks.
David A. Kosower
kosower@amoco.saclay.cea.fr
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From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: Again, Statistical S/W for NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Jul6.055606.2616@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <mohan.773447001@husc4.harvard.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 05:56:06 GMT
In article <mohan.773447001@husc4.harvard.edu> writes:
> I am aware of the following statistical software for NEXTSTEP:
Thanx to all who responded to my question. I have additional
information concerning Absoft & IMSL's libraries. In talks
with them today they said they wouldn't do the port to NS/Intel
for a single user. They want N users, where N > 1. If like me
you ask what is there to port in vanilla F77 then the answer is
"validation".
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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BIX: rlove
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From: brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer)
Subject: SUBMISSION: DefaultsSystem 1.1
Message-ID: <CsIMrq.6HA@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
Sender: news@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:04:36 GMT
(Excerpt of the README file)
DefaultsSystem
==============
Purpose
-------
This is graphical administration tool for the NeXTstep defaults database
realized on a Preferences module. It stresses the administration of owners:
save selected owners for backup reasons in a .defaults file (the package
contains a Workspace contents inspector for that format), reload those files
while using a filter to insert only those owners in the database that satisfy
certain conditions, test selected owners whether they have an application with
corresponding name within the search path and remove the ones that don't with a
single mouse click. Of course you can add/remove/inspect defaults of selected
owners. You may also read .dset-files but without the ability to use the open
filter.
Changes To Version 1.0
----------------------
- Find Panel: search a string in default names and/or values
save all found items into a .defaults file
the panel uses the find pasteboard
- keyboard alternatives for several commands; they are enabled only while the
DefaultsSystem module is selected
- a selection in the Main Browser isn't scrolled out of view any more when the
value view is displayed
- all displayed panels which directly belong to the DefaultsSystem module are
now hidden when anothor module is selected and redisplayed whether
DefaultsSystem is chosen again
- the fonts in the value view now correspond to the font settings in
Preferences.app
- bug fixes
Summary
-------
Version: 1.1
Application Type: Preferences module & Workspace contents inspector
Supported Architectures: Motorola 68K, Intel 486
Supported Languages: English, German
Supported File Types: .defaults, .dset (read only)
System Requirements: 3.X (tested under 3.2)
Available on
------------
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/defaults
cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/util
License
-------
This is Mailware. If you like it send any mail to:
brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (no NeXTmail please!)
The Author
---------
Klaus Brouwer studies computer science at the University of Stuttgart since
1991. He is programming computers since 1985.
e-mail: brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (no NeXTmail please!)
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NX_Mosaic?
Date: 6 Jul 1994 12:59:29 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <2ve9rh$qdv@godot.cc.duq.edu>
References: <2un3om$bsc@math1.cims.nyu.edu> <dcell-280694071414@tudhope.tor.hookup.net> <2v0s5g$9tl@nic-nac.CSU.net>
Eric P. Scott (eps@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote:
: SFSU has a native NEXTSTEP "Clonesaic" under development
: (similar to NCSA X Mosaic 2.4). It will be freely
: redistributable (*no* per-user/per-seat licensing!)
: No announced ship date--don't ask! (probably late summer)
: More in comp.infosystems.www.users.
: -=EPS=-
I've been using a WWW client called OmniWeb from Omni Development Corp.
The current released version is 0.7.3 with version 0.7.4 unreleased.
You can get it from ftp.omnigroup.com in /pub/software. It runs on
both black and white hardware.
--Jason Brown
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXView PROBLEM: What is the MFINPUTS environment variable??
Date: 6 Jul 1994 12:54:50 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <2ve9iq$6af@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <2vc2e4$pp1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Just a quick shot:
If TeXview is started by the Workspace, it has no enviroment variables.
If you set MFINPUTS in a shell or in your .cshrc, it's just available to
that shell. TeXview in contrast has just the WorkSpace's enviroment and
this is empty. When it now calls MakeTeXPK to compute some fonts with mf,
mf uses its default paths, since it doesn't find the variable MFINPUTS.
A hack to solve this would be to hardwire your MFINPUTS in MakeTeXPK,
probably a better way would be to install the /bin/StartNS loginhook from Olin Shivers (it was posted
here sometime ago). It provides the Workspace with an enviroment.
And, maybe, TeXview behaves different if started from a shell in any way
(tex -V or open *.dvi...)
Gregor
PS: Emacs suffers the same problem. It uses an grabenv procedure to solve
this.
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| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT |
| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: $\sqrt{i}$ ... address wanted
Date: 6 Jul 1994 14:16:03 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Message-ID: <2veeb3$6fp@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
Hi all,
I am looking for the address for $\sqrt{i}$. I tried the
address that was in the TeX manual, but the mail I sent
got bounced back. Thanks in advance ...
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb & term
Date: 6 Jul 94 13:08:57 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.773500137@budlight>
References: <2upte6$s9l@bigboote.WPI.EDU> <CsFEL7.1Cv@kgnome.uucp>
petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis) writes:
>Joel C Belog (nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU) wrote:
>: I was wondering if anyone has used OmniWeb succesfully
>: with term.
> Yes.
> First off, connect-up with term. Then for each site you wish
>to visit, type :
> tredir 8X00 foo.site.edu:80
> Where X is ever increasing number.
> Then, inside OmniWeb, you can connect to :
> http://my.machine:8X00/
It'll be far easier once OmniWeb supports Proxy cacheing. This
will redirect all URL accesses to the proxy server, and you'll
only have to tredir only once. Proxy support will be in OmniWeb
RSN as soon as the cool people from OmniGroup move to the
CERN libwww.
Chris
--
"I ride a tandem with the random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: herman@homerus (Herman G. Poorthuis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for WetPaint and Transfer (Pinnacle Research)
Date: 6 Jul 1994 14:42:28 GMT
Organization: Computer Beheer B.V.
Message-ID: <2vefsk$1181@donald.cb.nl>
Keywords: WetPaint Transfer Pinnacle PRI
Hello there,
Could anyone tell me how to get WetPaint and Transfer. My mail to Pinnacle
Research hasn't been answered untill now. I think there was a message
about WetPaint some time ago but I cannot find it.
thanks for your help
Herman Poorthuis,
Computer Beheer BV
Enschede, the Netherlands.
From: mgrmja@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Allard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Magnifying-glass Software?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 6 Jul 1994 14:37:13 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vefip$atq@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Greetings.
Back in the Mac days (no, this isn't c.s.n.advocacy, so no Mac flames, pretty
please? :-), there was a little "magnifying-glass" program that would enlarge
the screen to make it more viewable, e.g. by people with vision difficulties.
Is there something similar for the NeXT? We use NeXTs rather heavily here,
and a prospective student would require such a display aid.
Any information on such an animal would be greatly appreciated. Please
e-mail replies to me, and I will summarize (if there's anything to be
summarized :-).
Thanks in advance,
Mike
--
Mike Allard, Workstation Manager, Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology--KA9VDC
<Michael.Allard@Rose-Hulman.Edu> - #include <std/disclaimer.h> - NeXTmail Ho!
"Sponges grow in the ocean. That kills me. I wonder how much deeper the
ocean would be if that didn't happen." -Steven Wright
From: pcu@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for GIF, JPEG viewer for NSI 3.2
Date: 6 Jul 1994 14:53:00 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2veggc$m2h@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <1994Jul5.164754.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>
In article <1994Jul5.164754.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>
fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes:
> I'm trying to locate image display software for NSI 3.2 (white).
> Most immediately, I need a GIF viewer (any GIF viewer!). In the
> back of my mind is a desire to also handle JPEG, and possibly PICT
> (Macintosh) files, etc.
I'm not sure if an NS/Intel version exists, but ImageViewer handles just about
every file type. It was written by an engineer at NeXT, so I might try
ftp.next.com when looking for it.
(from the help menu).
Filetype Desciption Operations
atkras Andrew Rasterfiles (binary and ascii) read
gif Graphics Interchange Format read
itex ITEX Framegrabber Files read write
pbm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Bitmaps (binary) read write
pgm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Graymaps (binary) read write
ppm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Pixmaps (binary) read write
jpg3 JPEG File Interchange Format (JFIF) read
macp1 MacPaint Documents read write
mtek Mikrotek Scanner Files read
eps PostScript Encapsulated Files read write
ps PostScript (plain) write
ras2 Sun Rasterfiles read write
rle UTAH Run-length Encoded Rasterfiles read
icon Sun Icon Files (old and new format) read write
tiff Tagged Image File Format read write
face USENET Face Files read write
xbm X11 Bitmaps read write
ilisp Xerox Interlisp-D Source read
brush Xerox Brush/Press Files read
ais Xerox Array of Intensity Samples read
--
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
Anything to me is sweeter,
Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Daydream
Message-ID: <CsIxq7.3AL@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: Getting the Printer to Work?
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 15:01:18 GMT
Daydream is great but I cannot get the printer to work.
I have a NeXT Laser Printer hooked up but.....
Any help on this?
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb & term
Message-ID: <CsFEL7.1Cv@kgnome.uucp>
Sender: usenet@kgnome.uucp
Organization: 3DT "Skunk Works"
References: <2upte6$s9l@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 17:15:07 GMT
Joel C Belog (nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU) wrote:
: Hello all,
: I was wondering if anyone has used OmniWeb succesfully
: with term.
Yes.
: If so, could you let me know how you did it. Thanks all.
:
First off, connect-up with term. Then for each site you wish
to visit, type :
tredir 8X00 foo.site.edu:80
Where X is ever increasing number.
Then, inside OmniWeb, you can connect to :
http://my.machine:8X00/
This workjs flawless if you connect to a site that dones't use "fixed"
adress references... To tour, I recomend www.sgi.com ... it is a
nice setup.
: joel
--
petergun
R-name : Stephane I. Matis
E-mail : petergun@vectrex.login.qc.ca
PGP Public Key available by request.
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From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman)
Subject: Re: Trn 3.5 on Nextstep 3.2
Message-ID: <CsFKqK.1uq@basil.icce.rug.nl>
Keywords: Next, trn, mthreads, dirent, posix
Sender: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman)
Organization: Watery Lofts
References: <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 19:27:56 GMT
In article <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com> paul@cgh.cgh.com (Paul Homchick)
writes:
> I have a NeXT Cube running NS 3.2. I have been running trn v2.2 and
> the mthreads that came with trn 2.0 for quite a while now (3 years?).
> I just tried upgrading to trn v3.5 and mthreads v3.1 and had a
> terrible time.
>
> If I compile trn 3.5 (only one change needed to what Configure wanted:
> "-D_POSIX_SOURCES") it "runs" fine, but it can't find any articles.
[woes deleted]
> I restored the old trn and mthreads and am pondering what to do next.
> A Guess: something with the NeXT <dirent> support and the new article
> reading code in mthreads/trn is amiss. It is as if the new programs
> cannot open any articles.
>
> How does my guess sound? Any others?
Sounds plausible. The POSIXy `struct dirent' and BSDish `struct direct' are
incompatible in NS3.2. So you _must_ link in the posix library in order to use
`struct dirent', i.e. compile with "cc -posix" instead of "cc -D_POSIX_SOURCE".
--
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__/__/__/ "...to baldly go where no one has gone before."
__/ _/_/ -- star trek TNG
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap?
Date: 5 Jul 1994 02:02:41 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2vaf01$gst@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Jun29.003332.10791@cs.rit.edu> <stivCs6JLG.Lo7@netcom.com>
Stiv D. Ostenberg (stiv@netcom.com) wrote:
: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) writes:
: >Having had the chance to eval quite a bit of software on the Next
: >platform, both PD and Commercial, I have found one program that
: >stands above the rest, Soft PC.
: Thank you.
: >I thought it quite fitting that their support is as good as their program!
: I am sorry you feel this way. We go out of our way to provide good
: support.
Hmmm... I've found their support adequate but the product poor. I put NS
on an OEMed Intel box (the Intel Classic E) with a Diamond Viper VLB, an
Adaptec 1542C, a serial mouse, and a standard network card. 16 Megs, 350MB
Hard drive. Very standard stuff.
Yet I was unable to get SoftWindows running on it. The product would launch,
then ask for its hard drive file, then complain that it can't run in full-
screen mode (at which time I was given the choices "Quit" and "Continue"),
and then promptly quit after pressing either button.
This proved a major source of embarassment to me as I was the only person in
a 1000-man company (Dynix, a division of Ameritech) to run NeXTSTEP and
everyone wanted to see how it would hold up with Windows and Unix software
running simultaneously. Needless to say, Dynix isn't going to be selling
any NeXTSTEP boxes with their software installed. :-(
I did post my problems on the net after this, and got a response from someone
at Insignia who asked for a variety of files, etc. He found nothing wrong
(it was a vanilla system), and the best he could do was apologize for it
not working!
To this day, SoftWindows doesn't work, but it's no biggie to me as I'm
quitting the firm in 1 1/2 weeks.
Sean
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September |
+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: starting shell from command line
Date: 5 Jul 1994 02:04:50 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2vaf42$gst@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <2u8f74$3sj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <Crt1q6.86J@genoa.com> <SCOTT.94Jun27172600@hotspur.gac.edu>
Scott Hess (scott@hotspur.gac.edu) wrote:
: Hmm, I unfortunately have to dissent again. I've looked at zsh on
: a number of occasions, and unfortunately have never managed to
: convince myself to keep using it. I did manage to use rc for a
: couple months one time, but zsh was out of the way in under a week.
: Then again, I use Edit, too :-).
Good man.
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September |
+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Competitive upgrade offer for Appsoft Image owner?
Date: 5 Jul 1994 02:17:05 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vafr1$1ht@eps.com>
Does anyone know if any of the latest image apps developers (Tiffany II,
Wetpaint, ComposeIn Color) are offering any special upgrade offers for
people who own Appsoft Image?
Thanks.
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@cgh.cgh.com (Paul Homchick)
Subject: Re: Trn 3.5 on Nextstep 3.2
Message-ID: <1994Jul5.114337.12851@cgh.cgh.com>
Keywords: Next, trn, mthreads, dirent, posix
Organization: Chimitt Gilman Homchick, Inc.
References: <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com> <CsFKqK.1uq@basil.icce.rug.nl>
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 11:43:37 GMT
tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman) wrote:
>paul@cgh.cgh.com (Paul Homchick) writes:
>> I just tried upgrading to trn v3.5 and mthreads v3.1 and had a
>> terrible time.
>
>Sounds plausible. The POSIXy `struct dirent' and BSDish `struct
>direct' are incompatible in NS3.2. So you _must_ link in the
>posix library in order to use `struct dirent', i.e. compile
>with "cc -posix" instead of "cc -D_POSIX_SOURCE".
>
Thanks Tom,
Compiling with the "-posix" flag does get solve the compilation
problems I was trying to solve by "-D_POSIX_SOURCE", however, trn 3.5
still did not work, it continued to be unable to find any articles.
The fix (emailed to me from Germany) is to put i_dirent='undef' in the
hints file. Even though the Configure program thinks you have posix
dirent support, and even though you can link in the library, it will
not work.
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From: danders@carn3.alleg.edu (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Again, Statistical S/W for NeXT
Date: 5 Jul 1994 12:38:28 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <2vbk84$dp4@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
In article <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org
(Robert B. Love ) writes:
> I'm embarassed to ask this again because I know its been covered. What
> statistical packages are available for the NeXT. I promise I'll save
the
> replies and answer the question next time it is asked.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
> BIX: rlove
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
You may want to look at StatTools. They are a set of statistical routines
that use Improv for input. At the present time they are available for
black hardware only but we hope to have Intel and HP versions by the end
of the summer.
Look at the README file on fpt.alleg.edu
(pub/ESDG/multidciplinary/workbench/... for more details.
David Anderson
Allegheny College
Meadville, PA 16335
From: hvillega@roxette (Hugo Villegas Roji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0
Date: 5 Jul 1994 14:08:54 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <2vbphm$2c5j@campus.mty.itesm.mx>
References: <1994Jul1.212803.17771@cs.wm.edu>
Gianfranco Ciardo (ciardo@cs.wm.edu) wrote:
: Where can I buy Virtuoso 2.0 (academic) for a reasonable price?
Gianfranco:
You can ask Lorin, he is sales manager of Altsys the company which make Virtuoso. I 'm using a Beta version and I think is wonerfull.
This is Lorin's adress
Lorin Rivers
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager
Altsys Corporation
269 W. Renner Parkway
Richardson, Texas 75080
214.680.2060
Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com (NeXT Mail Expected)
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From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Again, Statistical S/W for NeXT
Date: 5 Jul 1994 14:15:56 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <2vbpus$msk@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
In article <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org
(Robert B. Love ) writes:
> I'm embarassed to ask this again because I know its been covered. What
> statistical packages are available for the NeXT. I promise I'll save
the
> replies and answer the question next time it is asked.
A couple of months ago there was a net lobbying effort to get StatSci to
port their statistical/data analysis package S-PLUS to NEXTSTEP or to at
least get a version going that will run on an X emulator. Has anyone
heard anything else on this?
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap?
Date: 5 Jul 1994 15:02:55 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vbsmv$3o2@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <2vaf01$gst@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Sorry Folks (offroad)
But btw where can I get the demo version for SoftPC and does it require
NS3.2 to run??
Thanx
--
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______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: drumhell@claudette.nrl.navy.mil (David Drumheller)
Subject: EPS to or from PS
Message-ID: <CsH308.BKz@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Keywords: post script
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:00:07 GMT
Does anybody know of a program that converts Enscapsulated PostScript
(EPS) to or from PostScript (PS). Any ftp sites containing such software?
-Dave
--
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Acoustics Division, Code 7140 fax: (202) 404-7732
Naval Research Laboratory
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Re: Competitive upgrade offer for Appsoft Image owner?
Message-ID: <1994Jul5.143446.28551@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
References: <2vafr1$1ht@eps.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:34:46 GMT
In article <2vafr1$1ht@eps.com> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes:
> Does anyone know if any of the latest image apps developers (Tiffany II,
> Wetpaint, ComposeIn Color) are offering any special upgrade offers for
> people who own Appsoft Image?
> Thanks.
benchMark Developments offered Image users an upgrade path several months
ago to TIFFany I, by Caffeine Software. This offer has since been
discontinued in order to be fair to our new customers and sales channels.
[ TIFFany I has been discontinued with the release of TIFFany II. More
details later this week in c.s.n.announcements. ]
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc.
Email: neil@bMD.com
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
From: skaul@cs.tamu.edu (Surbhi Kaul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: sendmail 8.6.9
Date: 5 Jul 1994 16:01:44 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vc058$1rc@news.tamu.edu>
Hi,
I have been trying to install the version 8.6.9 of sendmail on the next
computers in my Department (which has a release 2.1 installed)
I keep getting error msg
"mail: unknown option i"
eveytime I try mailing.
Could someone explain what this means?
Also, is it possible that 8.6.9 is not compatible with the older release?
Thankyou,
SK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: Competitive upgrade offer for Appsoft Image owner?
Message-ID: <espritCsH5Dt.BD3@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <2vafr1$1ht@eps.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:51:29 GMT
In article <2vafr1$1ht@eps.com> steve@eps.com writes:
>Does anyone know if any of the latest image apps developers (Tiffany II,
>Wetpaint, ComposeIn Color) are offering any special upgrade offers for
>people who own Appsoft Image?
>Thanks.
And please respond to the Net or could the original poster summarize his
responses. I am interested in this as well.
--
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds
alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and
esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap?
Date: 5 Jul 1994 16:31:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2vc1so$4rn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2vaf01$gst@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <2vbsmv$3o2@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven) writes:
>Sorry Folks (offroad)
>But btw where can I get the demo version for SoftPC and does it require
>NS3.2 to run??
The only usable way to run it is with NS 3.2 (3.2 added a lot of
optimizations for graphics that made SoftPC much more tolerable),
and it comes on the NS 3.2 User CD as a package.
--
David Lemson
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TeXView PROBLEM: What is the MFINPUTS environment variable??
Date: 5 Jul 1994 16:40:36 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2vc2e4$pp1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
A long time ago, with TeXView 2.0, MFINPUTS I do seem to recall
worked as an environment variable, allowing me to put customized
MFINPUTS (*.mf files) on my path. Now it appears not to. In fact,
a quick check of ntman.dvi found no environment variable for
MFINPUTS. IS there one?
Sincerely,
Lones Smith,
MIT
--
Lones A. Smith, Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
v-mail: (617) 253-0914
e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff)
lasmith@athena.mit.edu (if all else fails)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: Trn 3.5 on Nextstep 3.2
Message-ID: <CsH85G.39L@borland.com>
Keywords: Next, trn, mthreads
Organization: Borland International
References: <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:51:15 GMT
According to Paul Homchick <paul@cgh.cgh.com>:
> It is as if the new programs cannot open any articles.
No, the readdir routines that trn/mthreads is trying to use aren't returning
any files, so trn/mthreads are led to believe that there is nothing in the
directory to even try to open. This is something that I'd really like to
get Configure to figure out for itself, but I'm at a loss as to what sort
of brain-damaged library causes the thing to link but not run correctly.
To work around the problem you need to fiddle with config.sh manually and
change the dirent/direct setting and maybe some of the ndir settings.
Check for the lines:
d_libndir='undef'
d_usendir='undef'
libndir=''
ndirc=''
ndiro=''
[...]
i_dirent='define'
(This is the config for SunOS 4.1.1.)
--
Wayne Davison
davison@borland.com
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS to or from PS
Date: 5 Jul 1994 17:05:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vc3sj$j0r@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <CsH308.BKz@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
In article <CsH308.BKz@ra.nrl.navy.mil> drumhell@claudette.nrl.navy.mil (David Drumheller) writes:
> Does anybody know of a program that converts Enscapsulated PostScript
>(EPS) to or from PostScript (PS). Any ftp sites containing such software?
Tailor.app does it either way, and in my opinion it is the best in
turning nasty PS (like PS files generated by FrameMaker) into EPS.
It is commercial software.
If your PS is one page and well-behaved in the sense that you only
need to add a correct bounding box and fix the first line, then
my BBFig (on archives) will work fine. You can just rubber band
select a bounding box and press a button to insert it.
Going from EPS to PS is easy. Just open it in Preview.app and
do Print from menu, and press save button. This will take care
of nasty EPS files that has wierd bounding box (as Abode Illustrator
typically generates), which won't print correctly just by added
showpage operater at the end.
--
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USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
(NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0
Date: 5 Jul 1994 18:33:35 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2vc91v$4o6@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Jul1.212803.17771@cs.wm.edu> <2vbphm$2c5j@campus.mty.itesm.mx>
Hugo Villegas Roji (hvillega@roxette) wrote:
: Gianfranco Ciardo (ciardo@cs.wm.edu) wrote:
: : Where can I buy Virtuoso 2.0 (academic) for a reasonable price?
: You can ask Lorin, he is sales manager of Altsys the company which make Virtuoso. I 'm using a Beta version and I think is wonerfull.
Don't take this wrong, Lorin, but in all the time you've posted I've had the
idea that you were female! Dunno why--maybe some early poster referred to
you as "she", or maybe because all your postings have been so reasonable :-)
So which is it?
Strange how the Internet covers up differences that we take for granted in
real life...
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
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| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September |
+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0
Date: 5 Jul 1994 19:17:58 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2vcbl6$6us@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <2vc91v$4o6@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
In article <2vc91v$4o6@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu
(Sean O. Luke) writes:
> Hugo Villegas Roji (hvillega@roxette) wrote:
> : Gianfranco Ciardo (ciardo@cs.wm.edu) wrote:
> : : Where can I buy Virtuoso 2.0 (academic) for a reasonable price?
>
> : You can ask Lorin, he is sales manager of Altsys the company which
make Virtuoso. I 'm using a Beta version and I think is wonerfull.
>
> Don't take this wrong, Lorin, but in all the time you've posted I've had
the
> idea that you were female! Dunno why--maybe some early poster referred
to
> you as "she", or maybe because all your postings have been so reasonable
:-)
> So which is it?
>
> Strange how the Internet covers up differences that we take for granted
in
> real life...
After finally meeting him at EXPO, I have to say that he would make one
very unattractive woman. Remember the Bud Light ladies night commercial?
:-) I would definitely consider putting him in goal on a lacrosse team
though if he can handle the stick. It takes a good stocky guy who can
move. (Ever played lacrosse Lorin?)
--
Paul M. Cardon
President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG)
NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager
Math Department - Brigham Young University
Member of the Open Buzzword Foundation (OBF) Standards Committee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: I want to buy NS/FIP software
Message-ID: <thompsonCsHCz2.At4@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM
References: <2v9ap8$amc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 18:35:25 GMT
*flame on*
How about a translation?
"I'm a clueless idiot who thinks that all NEXTSTEP software vendors
filter Usenet looking for clods like me to sell software to. I also
think they'll be fighting tooth and nail to sell it to me for peanuts
before I graduate, and will therefore enjoy contacting me and providing
me with all the information I require to make a decision."
*flame off*
1. Check the 3rd Part Product Guide NeXT puts out.
2. E-mail or call the vendors in it that interest you.
3. Ask politely if they have an educational price on their software, and
if they have a demo on the archives or that they can send you.
thank you,
Eric
From: Morgan P Hankins <mh7e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Music CD Pressing Help...
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:21:16 -0400
Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Ei6P_gq00WB40og6kQ@andrew.cmu.edu>
I have access to a Young Minds CD Studio and a Philips CD recorder and
other things like a digitiser and digital mics...My question is, is
their an easy to make a tape into a CD? I have lots of recordable
CD, but I would think that I need some kind of information as
to header files and track info. I know that _someone_ must have
done this before and it seems like it should be an easy task.
Please E-mail me with any help...
-morgan
From: zxmkx01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Andreas Kerger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Step 3.2 and SLIP
Date: 5 Jul 94 19:42:22 GMT
Organization: InterNetNews at ZDV Uni-Tuebingen
Message-ID: <zxmkx01.773437342@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>
Huhu,
has anybody any idea wether there does exist a slip
implementation for NS 3.2 for Intel?
is it included in the standard package and i didn`t realize it?
bye
andreas
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From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CD-Recorder Software ?
Date: 5 Jul 1994 20:41:09 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vcgh5$1fa@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2us2okINNhql@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
In article <2us2okINNhql@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried
Ritsch) writes:
>
> Does anybody know if there is a software writing CD on a NeXT with a SCSI
> CD-Recorder ?
>
> Can you write Red-Book (Audio) CDs ? CD-ROM ISO-9660 ?
>
> Since there are a lot of SoundApps it should not be a big deal to write a
device-driver to write Soundfiles to CD ?
>
Young Minds (great name, what?) supports NEXTSTEP on its CD-ROM recording system.
I'll go ferret out the info i recieved from them and post it. I think NeXT uses
their systems to produce NeXT CD's.
--
--
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indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others
"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Acrobat
Date: 5 Jul 1994 20:59:43 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vchjv$3ii@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <CsCJFA.F9F@cunews.carleton.ca>
In article <CsCJFA.F9F@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
writes:
> Dave Randall (randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu) wrote:
> : Any change of getting Acrobat for NeXTSTEP / OpenStep? It's a natural.
>
> Not likely, since we don't even have Illustrator, anymore. In fact, they
> don't even sell NeXTSTEP fonts anymore (you have to hack Mac fonts, now).
Not so, as Henry McGilthon of Trilithon Software will be happy to tell you (he
picked up RightBrain's Adobe dealership)
> Hopefully Adobe will wake up again soon. Just because it isn't NeXT's
> "Marketing Direction Of The Month(TM)", DTP/Graphics are still just as
> viable under NeXTSTEP as they ever were. (more so now, in fact, with
> products like Virtuoso and Tailor, etc...)
>
Indeed. One of the best talks I attended at Expo was the one on publishing under
NEXTSTEP that Rick Reynolds moderated. 2 of 9 Object Honors awards went to DTP
solutions, and GS Corp.'s commitment is extraordinary - their joint booth with Canon
(where the object.station debuted) was a DTP'er's feast. Like, printing to a new
Canon A4 (2x3 FEET!) color scanner/copier/printer as easily as to a NLP...
Most impressive news: Clorox is moving its entire in-house design group to NS! All
those consumer-product labels will be straight from ther Display PostScript we know
and love. And, they've told their service bureaus to get NS systems with Tailor,
etc. if they want to keep Clorox' business! The chief designer said that a Mac
network couldn't cut a true workgroup environment (and he looked at a number of
state-of-the-art computerized design studios).
Oh, as for Acrobat: Tailor 2.0 handles .pdf files just fine.
--
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others
"They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic
flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0
Message-ID: <CsHFp8.LIy@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <2vc91v$4o6@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 19:34:20 GMT
In article <2vc91v$4o6@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O.
Luke) writes:
>>Hugo Villegas Roji (hvillega@roxette) wrote:
>>: Gianfranco Ciardo (ciardo@cs.wm.edu) wrote:
>>: : Where can I buy Virtuoso 2.0 (academic) for a reasonable price?
>>
>>: You can ask Lorin, he is sales manager of Altsys the company which make
Virtuoso. I 'm using a Beta version and I think is wonerfull.
>>
>>Don't take this wrong, Lorin, but in all the time you've posted I've had the
>>idea that you were female! Dunno why--maybe some early poster referred to
>>you as "she", or maybe because all your postings have been so reasonable :-)
>>So which is it?
>>
>>Strange how the Internet covers up differences that we take for granted in
>>real life...
>>
She's a he.
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CIM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: sendmail 8.6.9
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:52:36 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Ii6QUI200iV1M64txC@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2vc058$1rc@news.tamu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 5-Jul-94 sendmail 8.6.9 by
Surbhi Kaul@cs.tamu.edu
> Hi,
> I have been trying to install the version 8.6.9 of sendmail on the next
> computers in my Department (which has a release 2.1 installed)
>
> I keep getting error msg
>
> "mail: unknown option i"
>
> eveytime I try mailing.
> Could someone explain what this means?
Mail.app uses this flag for unknown reasons whenever it sends mail. I
have no idea what it is supposed to do to/with NeXT's version of
sendmail provided with NEXTSTEP 2.x.
The solution is to hack the command-line option code to recognize and
ignore that flag. (sendmail *exits* if it finds an unrecognized option
on the command line!)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: f2c output requires libc.a?
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 10:21:56 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Ei5LU4S00iUy00y5Rx@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2v2tna$j97@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Jul-94 Re: f2c output
requires lib.. by jmack@skye.phys.ualberta
> in /lib:
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 10 Dec 2 1993 libc.a -> libsys_s.a@
>
> will do the job. The link also satifies many other PD sources which
> are wont to use libc.a explicitly in their Makefiles.
Good thought. Also, making a link from /bin/cc to /bin/gcc is also a
good idea for compiling PD sources, since a fair number like to find and
use gcc.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: How can I delete automatically the old news ?
Message-ID: <CsBEHs.E4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 13:22:39 GMT
I use CNews and News Grazer.
I know there is something that should automatically delete files that are
older than a certain amount of days. But it doesn't seem to work here !
I believe that no one news was deleted and it starts to fill up my disk
for nothing.
How can I delete those files automatically ?
Is there a manual way to do this, like a programm that was included with
CNews ?
Thanks a lot
Jacques GARBI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Adobe Sonata - Convert Mac to NeXT
Message-ID: <CsCArC.3KH@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <CsAML0.Bxp@news.otago.ac.nz>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 00:59:35 GMT
Alastair Thomson (alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz) wrote:
: Hi,
: I have just purchased the Adobe Sonata font. Since Adobe no longer
: sell NeXTSTEP fonts, they kindly :-/ sent me the Mac version instead.
: Can someone tell me how to convert it into a NeXTSTEP font. Or better
: still, could someone NeXTmail me a genuine NeXTSTEP Sonata font.
I think the Convert_FONT.app program should do this. It is for converting
Mac fonts to and from NeXTSTEP
You should be able to find it at ftp.cs.orst.edu
Trilithon makes a set of commercial font converters for PC and Mac PS
fonts. These will also auto-install the fonts when converted. Email
info@trilithon.com
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: inews on a 3.1 CUBE - help is needed (desparately)
Date: 3 Jul 1994 21:54:07 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Message-ID: <2v7q3v$e9v@math.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Our SUN's (the news server) inews stuff was updated and I need the newest
inews for my CUBE which I can't compile on my CUBE. Can you help? Until a
fix comes in I must Pnews from our SUN, a very cumbersome situation. Please
respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: NeXTIME and the SoundBlaster?
Message-ID: <CsCGvy.BLu@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2up304$of8@news1.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 03:11:58 GMT
Scott Bender (sbender@harmony.digex.net) wrote:
: When I use NeXTIME w/ the SoundBlaster driver installed, my system locks up.
: Everything is fine without the driver. Any clues?
The SoundBlaster driver does not do 16-bit sound, as I recall. The docs
said you had to convert sounds before playing if they were 16-bit.
It's probable that QT or NeXT's wavelet movies use 16-bit sound.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Application Icon Question
Message-ID: <CsCIIx.EA0@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <24062912202119@wishep.physics.wisc.edu>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 03:47:20 GMT
TED ALLEN (TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu) wrote:
: Could anyone enlighten me on a puzzling behavior of NS? After installing
: Emacs.app, all the .tex icons were changed in all the accounts on my machine
: but mine. I edited all the users .NeXT/suffixes* files to make TeXview the app
: for .tex files but still this behavior persists. Emacs is installed in
: /LocalApps, and the only thing different about my setup is that I belong to two
: groups, other and wheel. Could someone tell me what determines the
: application claiming "ownership" of a file? Thankyou.
The Tools inspector in Workspace allows users to see all the applications
that register a given document type.
Simply select a file in the workspace of the type you want (i.e. foo.ps
or foo.tex, etc...) and bring up the tools inspector (CMD-3). Select the
app which you want as the default and click "Set Default".
You can also double-click on an app icon from the Tools inspector, and
the file will be opened in that app. This allows you to bypass the
default app on a one-time basis, without have to start the other app
first, and then open the file in it.
This is handy (for instance) for .ps files. Normally I want to view PS
files, so Preview is my default. This inspector makes it easy to use
Tailor when I want to edit the PS file, rather than just preview it.
It is not a good idea to edit the files in ~/.NeXT. It's not a
dot-directory for nothing. Even "UNIX experts" don't belong in most of the
dotfiles...
I have seen many people corrupt all their defaults by manually editing files
that are maintained by the system. Most of these things can be set via
Preferences panels, or dwrites.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Acrobat
Message-ID: <CsCJFA.F9F@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <Cs68ws.1MBq@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 04:06:45 GMT
Dave Randall (randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu) wrote:
: Any change of getting Acrobat for NeXTSTEP / OpenStep? It's a natural.
Not likely, since we don't even have Illustrator, anymore. In fact, they
don't even sell NeXTSTEP fonts anymore (you have to hack Mac fonts, now).
Hopefully Adobe will wake up again soon. Just because it isn't NeXT's
"Marketing Direction Of The Month(TM)", DTP/Graphics are still just as
viable under NeXTSTEP as they ever were. (more so now, in fact, with
products like Virtuoso and Tailor, etc...)
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: PC 80x25 font for NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CsCJz5.Fwy@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <Cs9IE8.ACH@xexos.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 04:18:41 GMT
Mark Chamberlain (mark@xexos.com) wrote:
: One of our apps needs to show a screen layout that must (for boring historical
: reasons) look exactly like something which used to run on a PC. In actual fact
: its worse than that, its actually a market-data service that used to run over
: ViewData which is a funny character based system used in the UK and Europe, a
: bit like Minitel or Prestel.
: So, we need a cheesy PC-type font. Any ideas/points etc?
There is a font named "IBM Klone" that implements a Courier-type font
with the full PC charset. I don't think I have it anymore, and I don't
know where it came from; probably some CD (JANA, NeXT-Edu, Nova, BaNG).
It was once handy to print out some old hard disk documentation I had that
used the PC extended box-draw characters to draw the jumper diagrams.
Presumably Adobe makes fonts that have the full PC charset. Try
info@trilithon.com to see what appropriate PS fonts Trilithon has.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha --------------------------------------
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: command line encryptor
Date: 3 Jul 1994 06:09:05 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2v5km1$431@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <4i4=8Te00WBL05oCoT@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: However, you can get reasonable security through crypt if you tar and
: compress/gzip the files first and then crypt them. This makes CBW much
: harder to use.
This, I take it, is because compress/gzip effectively remove patterns
and redundancy out of the encryption system. One would think that a
good encryption algorithm would remove patterns first anyway, no? I'm
not to impressed with crypt then. So why are we still using it to
protect passwords (it is used in /etc/passwd, no?)?
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September |
+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: command line encryptor
Date: 3 Jul 1994 06:18:06 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2v5l6u$431@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <8i4TURu00iV786gVcw@andrew.cmu.edu> <Cs82vG.10K@trapac.com>
Karl Kraft (karl@trapac.com) wrote:
: where cleartext is ANY kind of file, especially a tar file.
: This is because the compressed file will contain a series
: of "magic" bytes at the beginning.
So remove them. This makes decryption MUCH harder. As long as the telltale
signs of compression information are gone or "moved", I think the redundancy
removal of compression makes it so much more difficult to crack than non-
compressed data that it's worth the risk of someone guessing where the
vital compression starter information has gone.
I've been wondering about a possible private-encryption scheme: a program
that writes encryption programs using random encryption options fished from
an "encryption function dictionary". You build your own encryption scheme
on the fly. Wouldn't it be much tougher to break an encryption method if
you don't know what the method is?
An interesting, and probably useless, thought. :-)
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
| Sean Luke This signature no verb |
| sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad |
| sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September |
+------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Again, Statistical S/W for NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Jul2.214942.713@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 21:49:42 GMT
I'm embarassed to ask this again because I know its been covered. What
statistical packages are available for the NeXT. I promise I'll save the
replies and answer the question next time it is asked.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK)
BIX: rlove
-----------------------------------------------------------------
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] OmniWeb gif display
Date: 3 Jul 94 14:27:05 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.773245625@budlight>
References: <2uvb2o$do7@crcnis1.unl.edu>
rmaher@unlinfo.unl.edu (Rob Maher) writes:
>I just installed OmniWeb on an intel machine. Inline gifs display
>fine, but links to gifs get brought up in Edit. What do I need
>to do to automatically send them through OmniImage?
install ImageViewer or OmniImage and make it the default action
for .gif files (through the Workspace Manager inspector).
Chris
--
"I ride a tandem with the random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: command line encryptor
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 12:07:24 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Mi5i8wS00iV8I1DEVn@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2v5km1$431@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Jul-94 Re: command line
encryptor by Sean O. Luke@zapotec.mat
> Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
>
> : However, you can get reasonable security through crypt if you tar and
> : compress/gzip the files first and then crypt them. This makes CBW much
> : harder to use.
>
> This, I take it, is because compress/gzip effectively remove patterns
> and redundancy out of the encryption system.
That, plus converting plain text into pseudo-noise, is my claim. I am
pretty well convinced that this improves the "security" of crypt.
> One would think that a good encryption algorithm would remove patterns
> first anyway, no? I'm not to impressed with crypt then.
Yes, a good encryption algorithm should reduce redundancy whenever
possible to make attacks more difficult. Crypt was intended to be a
very fast, one-pass encryption algorithm for low-security purposes.
It's enough to keep people from reading your info easily; it's not
enough to prevent someone from doing so if they try hard enough.
> So why are we still using it to protect passwords (it is used in
> /etc/passwd, no?)?
No, we aren't. The passwords are encrypted using a one-way version of
the NBS Data Encryption Standard ("DES") algorithm that is substantially
more difficult to crack, although it can be done. (Look for "Crack" via
archie and at 'man 3 crypt'.)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Acrobat
Message-ID: <CsDn54.1pA@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <CsCJFA.F9F@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 18:24:40 GMT
Chris Saldanha writes
> Hopefully Adobe will wake up again soon.
It sure would be nice, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
> Just because it isn't NeXT's
> "Marketing Direction Of The Month(TM)", DTP/Graphics are still just as
> viable under NeXTSTEP as they ever were. (more so now, in fact, with
> products like Virtuoso and Tailor, etc...)
not to mention the new version of PasteUp from AFS.
I just tried out the upgrade, and its _much_ faster than previous
versions, with lots of UI improvements. Nice job.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: "Wesley C. Smith" <wes@arissoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTmail Message PBoard and TickleServices ?
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 20:35:21 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates
Message-ID: <940703153521.4310AAABF.wes@arissoft>
References: <2urkkh$oia@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <2utqd9$27k@rosie.next.com> <1994Jun30.205526.2597@millennium.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>Do I have to upgrade to 3.3 to run this new-fangled Mail?
Yes and No. If you want to run NeXT's 3.3 Mail.app you will need to upgrade.
However if you want a NEXTSTEP mail program that supports MIME (including MIME
in newsgroups) and has a *lot* of features that the 3.3 version of Mail.app
won't have, you can buy Eloquent instead :-)
For more info about Eloquent send a message to eloquent_info@arissoft.com.
Wesley C. Smith
wes@arissoft.com MIME and NeXTmail ok
Take Three
P.O. Box 203852 (512) 837-9784
Austin, TX 78720-3852 (512) 837-8102 (fax)
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pgm to move dir tree from NS -> DOS Volume +
Date: 3 Jul 1994 22:02:50 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2v7cia$gtl@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I would like to buy a utility that allows me to select a whole set of
files in a file browser (ala SafetyNet), and press a button to gnutar
(compress) it. SN unfortunately uses its own tar-like (but not tar)
format. Furthermore, I need a gnutar that can then mangle filenames from
Unix to DOS, and perhaps preferably run under DOS itself.
(At the moment, I first use the SafetyNet browser to back up my selected
files, then restore it onto my /tmp volume, then recompress it using
gnutar. I still need a gnutar to decompress into an MSDOS file system,
though.)
IMHO, the DOS 8+3 limitations is by far the most maddening aspect of
MSDOS!
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: play3401 for CD300?
Date: 03 Jul 1994 10:53:15 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul3115315@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Has anybody added Apple CD300 support to Carl Edman's play3401 yet?
The only difference is in the way the CD300 uses the standard way of
getting the data of the disk where as the Toshiba has it's own _easy_
way.
--
"Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Re: SoftPC, the best example of crap?
Message-ID: <1994Jul2.161959.283@stone.com>
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
References: <1994Jun29.003332.10791@cs.rit.edu>
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 16:19:59 GMT
In article <1994Jun29.003332.10791@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E
Noel) writes:
> Having had the chance to eval quite a bit of software on the Next
> platform, both PD and Commercial, I have found one program that
> stands above the rest, Soft PC.
>
> Do not get me wrong, I have used SoftPC under Mac OS, and it
> was slow but useable and on a Power PC, it was almost decent.
> But, the Next version was a dog. It took up to five to 10 minutes
> for dialog boxes to be drawn (I am not talking about launching,
> or scrolling large files, I mean a dialog box with 3 fields!!!!).
>
> It took up to 2 minutes to register a click on the mouse. Granted
> this is only a NextStation 16/600, but why is SoftPC such a dog.
>
>
> I tried to contact insignia at the tech support #, 3 times I called,
> selected next support from their voice mail menu, then the phone would
> ring a few times and I would get disconnected!!!!
>
> I thought it quite fitting that their support is as good as their
program!
>
> Bottom, the 20 minute demo was a joke when you consider it takes 5 -10
minutes
> per dialog box. I can't test more than one function per launch. And
after
> 40 minutes of sheer hell, why bother?
>
> How can't it be so terrible under Next OS?
>
> I was looking at purchasing it for our Nexts and for
> some other unix boxes, but with support and performance like that,
forget it.
>
This is music to my ears, and to the ears of all native NEXTSTEP Third
party developers.
It always amazes me how NeXT can beg and cajole third party developers to
write apps for them, and in the nExt breath be promoting SoftPC, as though
there is no need for any NS software.
My advice: let them buy NS for Mission Critical stuff, let them buy SoftPC
for their MS apps. They'll be calling you for your shrinkwrap, once they
figure out what you already have.
andrew
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From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTmail Message PBoard and TickleServices ?
Date: 4 Jul 1994 05:22:35 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <2v86ar$rqr@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <940703153521.4310AAABF.wes@arissoft>
In article <940703153521.4310AAABF.wes@arissoft> "Wesley C. Smith"
<wes@arissoft.com> writes:
> >Do I have to upgrade to 3.3 to run this new-fangled Mail?
> Yes and No. If you want to run NeXT's 3.3 Mail.app you will need to
upgrade.
> However if you want a NEXTSTEP mail program that supports MIME
(including MIME
> in newsgroups) and has a *lot* of features that the 3.3 version of
Mail.app
> won't have, you can buy Eloquent instead :-)
> For more info about Eloquent send a message to
eloquent_info@arissoft.com.
I can understand Wes's bias and enthousiasm because Eloquent is pretty
cool, but Mail.app II will run with 3.2 according to a poster from NeXT a
couple days ago.
--
Paul M. Cardon
President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG)
NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager
Math Department - Brigham Young University
Member of the Open Buzzword Foundation (OBF) Standards Committee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@net23.com (Operator)
Subject: Problems with Cables.app
Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News)
Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 07:01:42 GMT
Message-ID: <CsEM6v.DrB@spcuna.spc.edu>
Hi.
I'm running Cables.app on NS/FIP 3.2 and I am having a slight problem
which makes it unusable
The Shift-Numerals don't work (ie: "!, @, #, $, etc.)
What's wrong???
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From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AIFF and WAVSound inspectors
Date: 4 Jul 1994 02:47:17 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9407040747.AA12051@hsun26>
Sorry to many people who have asked for these in the last couple of days:
I have recently arrived in Japan where I am temporarily NeXT-less.
I believe the situation will be remedied in the near future, and I will
be able to send the inspectors to those who have requested them.
Ideally I'll also be able to package them up and put them on an
ftp-site too...
Until then,
Have fun,
mmalcolm
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software
From: paul@cgh.cgh.com (Paul Homchick)
Subject: Trn 3.5 on Nextstep 3.2
Message-ID: <1994Jul4.145317.7437@cgh.cgh.com>
Summary: Newer Trns don't work
Keywords: Next, trn, mthreads
Organization: Chimitt Gilman Homchick, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 14:53:17 GMT
I have a NeXT Cube running NS 3.2. I have been running trn v2.2 and
the mthreads that came with trn 2.0 for quite a while now (3 years?).
I just tried upgrading to trn v3.5 and mthreads v3.1 and had a
terrible time.
If I compile trn 3.5 (only one change needed to what Configure wanted:
"-D_POSIX_SOURCES") it "runs" fine, but it can't find any articles.
Every news group comes back with "No unread articles". If I force it
by giving specific article numbers, I get a thread tree, but no
numbers in it:
( )-( )
\-( )
... etc.
When the new mthreads runs through its -e pass, it creates empty
.thread files, which cause trn v2.2 to get a SIGSEGV. If I run trn
v3.5 on the new .thread files, there are no core dumps, but everything
(of course) is still empty.
I restored the old trn and mthreads and am pondering what to do next.
A Guess: something with the NeXT <dirent> support and the new article
reading code in mthreads/trn is amiss. It is as if the new programs
cannot open any articles.
How does my guess sound? Any others?
Does anyone have any configuration or debugging hints to get this
configuration working? How about using the ndir code that is included
with trn?
Thanks!!!!
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From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I want to buy NS/FIP software
Date: 4 Jul 1994 15:44:40 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2v9ap8$amc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I posted a while back for people to solicit me their software,
and I got 2 responces.... I guess all you software sellers
are rich and don't need to make sales anymore, right?
I am a student and I graduate in 40 days, and I want to buy more
software. I already own and love:
dataphile v2.1
writeup v1.0
mesa v1.5b
checksum v1.15
I need a DTP program (ie: Frammaker please!), a database stand alone
1-5 user database server to use with DB-Kit or adapter, maybe a cool
game or two (I don't really play them too much), a personal information
manager for clients and stuff, and any other cool stuff you might want to
try and sell me....
Please do this: 1. include academic pricing
2. a description of the product!!!
3. info on demo availability
no NeXTmail please....
Thank you very much.
Gary
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From: nvenkate@acs.ucalgary.ca (Natarajan Venkateswaran)
Subject: NeXT - not reading DOS diskettes
Message-ID: <Jul4.174804.45723@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 17:48:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Hi,
Could somebody help us know which files are necessary for
reading DOS disks on a NeXT machine. Our NeXT machine no
longer reads a DOS diskette (We had a disaster recently and lost most files.
We recovered most lost files from backups) but is able to read NeXT
diskettes.
Thanks for the help. Please email responses to nvenkate@acs.ucalgary.ca.
- Natarajan
Chemical Engineering
nvenkate@acs.ucalgary.ca
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