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From: os9@bga.com (Michael R. M. Cheselka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ppp and general comm questions about the NeXT( '40 cube) Date: 23 Jun 1994 05:11:52 -0500 Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates Message-ID: <2ubn58$47v@lia.bga.com> I am fairly new to the NeXT and sysadmin work, but not to UNIX. I am having a hard time getting Alby-ppp0.3 to work. Has anyone gotten it work, and if so, could you fill me in? What files do I need to edit to get ppp to work( in /ppp, /etc, and/or in /)? What about NetInfo? BTW, I am using a Mac cable serial cable. Could that be the problem? It works just fine with 'cu'. When I use 'ppp-on' it appears to work, but nothing happens. The modem lights don't indicate any activity. Thanks for any help people may send me. This software has almost no documentation. I'm sure I am doing something wrong, but there is no information to help me. Also, has anyone gotten pcomm the UNIX version of procomm to work under NeXT? Sure would beat tip and cu. Thanks again! -- cheselka@donna.rtf.utexas.edu N5UVV Michael R. M. Cheselka cheselka@cactus.org Hangs out on 145.21mhz 400 W. 34th. St. #103 os9@gnu.ai.mit.edu and 147.18mhz Austin, TX 78705-1331 os9@bga.com W (512) 472-9549v 4pm-6pm,M-F H (512) 452-9412v 24hrs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dis@castle.ed.ac.uk (I Stephenson) Subject: Class 1 fax driver Message-ID: <CruKzL.71p@festival.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@festival.ed.ac.uk (remote news read deamon) Organization: Edinburgh University Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 11:23:44 GMT We've just bought a modem which supports a class 1 fax interface. Although not its primary use, it would be nice if we could send faxes through it but unfortunatly NeXTStep 3.2 only includes drivers for class 2 fax interfaces. Is a class 1 driver available anywhere, or has anyone got a class 1 modem working? Could you direct any correspondence on this to either myself at: ian@ohm.york.ac.uk or to the guy whose modem it is: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk Thanks Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: brouwer@mickey.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) Subject: Re: Would like focus-follows-mouse? Message-ID: <CrupEL.M0u@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Sender: news@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany References: <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 12:59:08 GMT In <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) writes: >Question from a NeXTSTEP neophite (and possibly a heresy :-) - is >there a way to change NeXTSTEP's "click-to-focus" to "focus-follows-mouse"? >I didn't see any way of doing this from the Preferences. I know that >the latter focus method "violates" some NeXTSTEP UI commandments - but, hey, >I can't get used to this inefficient way of flipping from window to >window - and I've gotten too used to it in my many years of X11. >Any pointers would be much appreciated - and sorry if this question's >been asked before. I just joined this newsgroup - the FAQ didn't seem to >have any info on this. This would be problematic on NeXTstep, because the key window can be different from the main window. If you are in an Edit window and press cmd-f than the find panel comes up: normaly the panel is automatically made key but the mouse cursor might be still in the Edit window. Which window should now be the key window? The one where the mouse cursor is in or the newly brought up panel (conforming to the user guidlines)? Kaus Brouwer
From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Summary: Format of NeXTStep CDs. Date: 23 Jun 1994 14:20:14 GMT Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd. Message-ID: <2uc5mu$4sn@bmerha64.bnr.ca> References: <2siq4g$90d@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> Summary: It's proprietary.... Originator: pww@bcarh355 Thanks to all who replied to my original note. The short answer to the question "What format does NeXT use for NeXTStep CDs?" is "proprietary". Unfortunately. The "proprietary" format is actually BSD 4.3 or a variant on BSD 4.3: various replies referred to 4.3, reverse byte ordered 4.3, "come custom BSD format" based on 4.3, etc. One response mentioned that its too bad that Sun doesn't support r4.3. The good news - for me at least - is that based on your responses I've managed to convince my group that I need one of our CD-ROMs; I've agreed in return to act as a CD server for our group. Another interesting point learned was that NeXT HW is SCSI-1: the choice of SCSI-2 connectors was made on the basis of form factor. pww -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] Secure Networks pww@bnr.ca [ ] Bell-Northern Research Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Ontario, K1Y 4H7 -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] Secure Networks pww@bnr.ca [ ] Bell-Northern Research Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Ontario, K1Y 4H7
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: PS printer errors with NXImages? Anyone else experience this?... In-Reply-To: wln@news.cs.columbia.edu's message of 23 Jun 1994 01:37:39 -0400 Message-ID: <BYER.94Jun23105019@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <2ub733$da4@pizza.cs.columbia.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:50:19 GMT William Lee Nussbaum writes: William> I have, consistently, for several months, been getting the William> following type of error when printing most (not all) documents with William> NeXTSTEP-generated bitmaps to an HP LaserJet 4: William> (where the line with the serial text continues off the side of the William> page..., and the number is usually approximately -1K, + or - (usu William> -) 0 to 2) Looks like the line is too long. This could cause a problem for the input scanner on the printer. You can try manually editing the PostScript to break up the long input lines at 80 characters or so: (59249gjfkgajgkergjlelgjerglkejgjglegg\ fgjfsghajgjrgjergkejgehg\ fgjfjgahgakkweg) The backslash is necessary to prevent the newline from being included as part of the string of data. Be careful when wrapping to not disturb things other than strings (parenthesis are PostScript's string delineation characters). You're right, though. It does sound like a bug in NeXT's printing kit. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Would like focus-follows-mouse? In-Reply-To: brouwer@mickey.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de's message of Thu, 23 Jun 1994 12:59:08 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Jun23105551@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> <CrupEL.M0u@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:55:51 GMT Klaus Brouwer writes: Klaus> This would be problematic on NeXTstep, because the key window can be Klaus> different from the main window. If you are in an Edit window and Klaus> press cmd-f than the find panel comes up: normaly the panel is Klaus> automatically made key but the mouse cursor might be still in the Klaus> Edit window. Which window should now be the key window? The one where Klaus> the mouse cursor is in or the newly brought up panel (conforming to Klaus> the user guidlines)? And giving up the concept of the key window is the _wrong_ thing to do. I don't know how many times we've had to try and re-invent the key window for our Motif programs. (Often the solution to the key window thing is to warp the mouse. This is a _much_ bigger sin than not having point-to-type.) -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: dhirenje@girtab.usc.edu (Dhiren Patel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where can I find NeXTSTEP books in the Bay Area? Date: 23 Jun 1994 11:01:10 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: dhirenje@girtab.usc.edu Distribution: ca Message-ID: <2ucil6$kpb@girtab.usc.edu> If anyone knows of a good bookstore that stocks NeXTSTEP books in the Bay Area, please let me know. So far, I have been unable to locate one that has anything I want. I'm specifically looking for the Garfinkel and Mahoney (sp?) book. Thanks... Dhiren -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dhiren Patel -- dhirenje@scf.usc.edu -- University of Southern California -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: kenw@tfs.com (Ken Worthy) Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM compatibility? Message-ID: <Crv3M9.1Hx@tfs.com> Organization: TRW Financial Systems References: <CrttF0.L40@tfs.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 18:06:09 GMT I just phoned NeXT technical support asking why a Sun couldn't read my NEXTTIME cd-rom. As many of you probably already know, the answer is that NeXT uses its own, PROPRIETARY, cd-rom file system, not the commonly available standard (HSFS). They do this, then they walk around scratching their heads wondering why there's so much hesitation in the market to buying NeXT products. Why on Earth should a cd-rom with a simple Unix-style file system on it be in a non-standard format? This is inexecusable. It means I either have to buy a cd-rom for my NeXT, which I'd use about three times per year, or hunt down someone with a cd-rom on a NeXTStep system, which, even though I work with hundreds of software pro's, isn't easy. I've generally been very pro-NeXT, but when you run into things like this you start to understand the bad vibes about NeXT in the industry. Ken
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WAV and AIFF Workspace inspectors available Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 18:33:44 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield Message-ID: <940623193344.4324AACUF.malc@jeeves> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII For anybody who's interested in "painlessly" accessing the gigabytes of PD sound samples in non-NEXTSTEP-native formats, I have developed Workspace Inspectors for WAV and AIFF files. Please mail me if you would like them to be NeXTMail-ed to you. I'll put them on an archive site eventually, along with the code for Categories of Sound that read these formats. I hope to develop the rest of the set eventually, but am a tad busy at the moment. [I'd also like a way of getting round a bug in NEXTSTEP which plays out some sound files at double-speed, but still reports them as playable: to get round this for now I have to internally convert all files to 16-bit linear 22kHz -- I hope this will suit PC-owners.] Note that the Inspectors come with no warranty, expressed or implied! Have fun, mmalcolm. SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HD Problem - Is there a non-destructive surface test util for NeXT Followup-To: poster Date: 23 Jun 1994 18:57:37 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <2uclv1$1of@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Hi, I own a '040 NeXT cube. I had the follwing message appear on my CONSOLE window a few nights ago.. It hasn't happened since, but I iam slightly concerned... target 2, MEDIA ERROR block # 52355H, Retry #1 It did this all the way up to retry 5, and then apparently suceeded in doing what it had to do. What I need to know is.. is there a non-destructive utility I can use to find and possibly map out marginal/bad sectors on the disk?? I really do not want to have to re-build the entire hard disk (major pain). Thanks for any input!! -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- Opinions expressed in this space are mine. However, they are the -- fault of my twisted and demented professors at UMCP!!! #include <stdsig.h>
From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Summary: Format of NeXTStep CDs. Date: 22 Jun 1994 23:07:59 GMT Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd. Message-ID: <2uag8f$6p5@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> References: <2siq4g$90d@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> Summary: It's proprietary.... Originator: pww@bcarh355 Thanks to all who replied to my original note. The short answer to the question "What format does NeXT use for NeXTStep CDs?" is "proprietary". Unfortunately. The "proprietary" format is actually BSD 4.3 or a variant on BSD 4.3: various replies referred to 4.3, reverse byte ordered 4.3, "come custom BSD format" based on 4.3, etc. One response mentioned that its too bad that Sun doesn't support r4.3. The good news - for me at least - is that based on your responses I've managed to convince my group that I need one of our CD-ROMs; I've agreed in return to act as a CD server for our group. Another interesting point learned was that NeXT HW is SCSI-1: the choice of SCSI-2 connectors was made on the basis of form factor. pww -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] Secure Networks pww@bnr.ca [ ] Bell-Northern Research Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Ontario, K1Y 4H7 -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] Secure Networks pww@bnr.ca [ ] Bell-Northern Research Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Ontario, K1Y 4H7
From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Insufficient disk space - help Date: 23 Jun 1994 20:23:53 GMT Organization: UniNett Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ucr0p$109@ratatosk.uninett.no> I run xmosaic under Co-Xist which works rather nicely except for I get an "Insufficient disk space - unable to transfer file" VERY quickly, forcing me to reboot almost once a day. Problem is I didn't used to - is this a swapfile problem? When I try to run xmosaic 2.4a I get the following error message: memory allocation error: attempt to free or realloc space not in heap. And the thing bales out. Would anyone in the know kindly send me an email suggestion as to what I'm doing wrong? - barre -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barre Ludvigsen - Ostfold Regional College- N-1750 HALDEN - Norway ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vox:+4769185400/home+4769341922/direct+4769185577ext219fax:+4769185485 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- <A HREF="http://www.ludvigsen.dhhalden.no">Visit our home!</A>
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT's in the media? Date: 23 Jun 1994 20:34:10 GMT Organization: MCNC/NC-REN Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ucrk2$hmd@inxs.concert.net> I was up late the other night and flipped onto the east coast feed on Cinemax and tuned into a movie called "Joey Breaker" (albeit it was given one *, 1993) and there plain as day through most of the movie in the lead character's office was a big, black Cube. Has anyone else (email to me and I'll summarize) seen NeXT hardware or the OS running on Intel or HP in visual media (i.e. TV/Movie/News)...when and where? Dave
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "unexpected kernel page fault failure" problem Date: 23 Jun 1994 17:14:24 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9406232210.AA04491@cantina.lanl.gov> mmalcolm Crawford wrote, in this thread, > I recently asked a simliar question, particularly re: > > panic: (Cpu 0) MMU invalid descriptor during > table walk > > A number of people suggested this was a software fault > due to heavy network traffic. I have switched the > affected machine with another. The new machine (same > spec) does not seem to to be affected. The old one (now > on another segment of the network) seems more stable than > previously (although it gets less use now). > > This leaves me a bit confused... What kind of machines? We bought three Epson NXen at the same time -- two of them differ by 1 in their serial numbers -- and all three (have) panic(ked) in somewhat different ways. (But not with your error message; ours are NMI's.) Hopefully, the problems on MY Epson have been fixed by the replacement of the motherboard last Thursday. (I've been at EXPO.) Part of MY confusion has been that several days of running CheckItPro never found a hardware error, but that of course only means that as a DOS board it was a "perfectly fine" product. Dick Silbar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Would like focus-follows-mouse? Message-ID: <Crv52r.EM@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 18:37:38 GMT In article <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) writes: > Question from a NeXTSTEP neophite (and possibly a heresy :-) - is > there a way to change NeXTSTEP's "click-to-focus" to "focus-follows-mouse"? > I didn't see any way of doing this from the Preferences. I know that > the latter focus method "violates" some NeXTSTEP UI commandments - but, hey, > I can't get used to this inefficient way of flipping from window to > window - and I've gotten too used to it in my many years of X11. It depends on what you are doing. I found both focus policies not to be perfect for every situation. But you can alter your X11 window manager's behaviour to click-focus policy. At least that is what I did on an SGI I had to spend time hacking at. Well, this is not what you asked for, but it's a way to to uniform behaviour. Cheers, Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: jon.kolyer@mccaw.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where can I find NeXTSTEP books in the Bay Area? Date: 23 Jun 1994 23:12:18 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: ca Message-ID: <2ud4si$h7g@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <2ucil6$kpb@girtab.usc.edu> In article <2ucil6$kpb@girtab.usc.edu> dhirenje@girtab.usc.edu (Dhiren Patel) writes: > If anyone knows of a good bookstore that stocks NeXTSTEP books in the Bay > Area, please let me know. So far, I have been unable to locate one that has > anything I want. I'm specifically looking for the Garfinkel and Mahoney (sp?) > book. Thanks... > Staceys in Palo Alto has tons of computer-related titles. I'd be very surprised if there was a Next-book they didn't have. --JK _______________________________________________________________ jonathan.kolyer@mccaw.com | This space intentionally Paradigm Systems Corporation | left blank... NeXTmail is cool. My thoughts, opinions, and experiences are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Booting Cube Hangs on "Starting Naming Services" Message-ID: <Crw0pz.GxK@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Distribution: world Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 06:01:11 GMT Boot a cube. It hangs at "Starting Naming Services". Hit Ctrl C and it finishes booting. Want to avoid hitting Ctrl C. What do I do? David In verbose mose, it hangs at "mounting remote filesystems". No BNC or 10BaseT attached. Hmmmm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM compatibility? Message-ID: <espritCrw296.3vr@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <CrttF0.L40@tfs.com> <Crv3M9.1Hx@tfs.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 06:34:18 GMT In article <Crv3M9.1Hx@tfs.com> kenw@tfs.com (Ken Worthy) writes: >I just phoned NeXT technical support asking why a Sun couldn't read my >NEXTTIME cd-rom. As many of you probably already know, the answer is >that NeXT uses its own, PROPRIETARY, cd-rom file system, not the commonly >available standard (HSFS). Actually, the "standard" as you call it, is not yet a standard. "HS" is High Sierra, which never was a real standard, though it is close to the standard ISO-9660. Most ISO-9660 disks on Unix systems these days are not true ISO-9660, but rather an extension on top of that called "Rock Ridge" which uses another extension called "SUSP". Sure, these extensions will probably be merged into the standard when it comes up for renewal this year, but they aren't formal standards yet. I haven't tried mounting a Sun Distribution CD on my NeXT, but I thought that most vendors use proprietary CD-ROM formats for their distribution format (I may be wrong on this point, I admit.) >They do this, then they walk around scratching their heads wondering why >there's so much hesitation in the market to buying NeXT products. Since the system software is distributed on CD-ROM, then I think NeXT can make a reasonable assumption that folks will have some access to a CD-ROM drive to connect to their system. > Why on >Earth should a cd-rom with a simple Unix-style file system on it be in a >non-standard format? Uh, because it will only be used with a NeXT system. > This is inexecusable. I disagree. > It means I either have to buy a >cd-rom for my NeXT, which I'd use about three times per year, Maybe. Maybe not. I started off with one CD-ROM drive for loading the system off of the CD-ROM. Now, I run two on my system and they are both usually in use, either with mounted CDs or with audio CDs. Besides, you can find single-speed SCSI CD-ROMs pretty cheap these days. > or hunt down >someone with a cd-rom on a NeXTStep system, which, even though I work >with hundreds of software pro's, isn't easy. Or, you could ask one of those "software pro's" if you could borrow his CD-ROM drive long enough to load the CD-ROM onto your HD. I used to loan people my CD-ROM drives when I wasn't using them all the time. Heck, you could even attached the CD-ROM drive from the above-mentioned Sun to your NeXT machine and use it. >I've generally been very pro-NeXT, but when you run into things like this >you start to understand the bad vibes about NeXT in the industry. There are many things to complain about wrt NeXT. This is NOT one of them. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Two New NS Spreadsheets Message-ID: <1994Jun24.043934.368@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 04:39:34 GMT Two new spreadsheets for NS 3.1+ Follow this www path: 1) http://stepwise.com 2) Company Directory 3) Lighthouse Design, Ltd. a) ParaSheet b) Quantrix If you don't have OmniWeb try this on your Internet provider's machine: lynx http://stepwise.com I have no connection with Lighthouse except that I'm a pleased owner of Concurrence and Diagram2! -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: kenyee@ksr.com (Ken Yee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: upgrade from 3.0(NeXT) to 3.2(Intel)? Date: 24 Jun 1994 13:58:47 GMT Organization: Kendall Square Research Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2ueoqn$ea2@hopscotch.ksr.com> Was there ever an upgrade from NeXTSTEP 3.0 on the NeXT to NeXTSTEP 3.2 on Intel processors? I vaguely remember a $99 upgrade to the 3.1 version but didn't take advantage of it because of the limited hardware card support... thanks, ken (kenyee@ksr.com)
From: pln@egret0.Stanford.EDU (Patrick L. Nolan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where can I find NeXTSTEP books in the Bay Area? Date: 24 Jun 1994 17:45:02 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: ca Message-ID: <2uf62u$138@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2ucil6$kpb@girtab.usc.edu> <2ud4si$h7g@ftp-p.mccaw.com> jon.kolyer@mccaw.com wrote: : Staceys in Palo Alto has tons of computer-related titles. I'd be very : surprised if there was a Next-book they didn't have. I can verify that. They have 3 or 4 short shelves full.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Would like focus-follows-mouse? Date: 24 Jun 1994 18:33:21 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uf8th$3dc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> In article <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) writes: > Question from a NeXTSTEP neophite (and possibly a heresy :-) - is > there a way to change NeXTSTEP's "click-to-focus" to "focus-follows-mouse"? > I didn't see any way of doing this from the Preferences. I know that > the latter focus method "violates" some NeXTSTEP UI commandments - but, hey, > I can't get used to this inefficient way of flipping from window to > window - and I've gotten too used to it in my many years of X11. > > Any pointers would be much appreciated - and sorry if this question's > been asked before. I just joined this newsgroup - the FAQ didn't seem to > have any info on this. Because no one else seems to have posted the answer, I'll post a hint: hack /usr/lib/NextStep/windowPackage.ps. It's been done before, but the details are left as an exercise for the user :-) --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: kenw@tfs.com (Ken Worthy) Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM compatibility? Message-ID: <Crx3pM.LvA@tfs.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Organization: TRW Financial Systems References: <CrttF0.L40@tfs.com> <Crv3M9.1Hx@tfs.com> <espritCrw296.3vr@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 20:03:21 GMT Avadis Tevanian at NeXT explained to me about the cd-rom standardization problems. Even though there is ISO-9660, which many vendors adhere to, it turns out being useless because they format their file systems on top of it in different ways. It's certainly understandable that NeXT doesn't publish their cd's in a standard format if the format itself is fuzzy. But, the lack of real standard doesn't let them off the hook entirely. If NeXT, Sun, HP, DEC, etc., don't get their acts together (literally) to develop and use a real, working standard for this and other similar compatibility issues (not just in the realm of their development environments), they are going to be trounced even more heavily by Microsoft. You see, Microsoft has the advantage of being a single company, so compatibility issues are generally moot. If the others really want to target Microsoft together, the silly "my machine won't read your cd-rom" kind of issues will have to go away. I stand by my original assertion--with the possible exception of OS/boot disks, all the major Unix vendor's disks should be able to be read on all the other major Unix vendor's cd-rom drives, etc. I don't go for Alan F. Perry's idea that the solution to the compatibility problem is just to have every host directly connected to a full complement of peripherals. One of the great benefits of networking is peripheral sharing. Borrowing, and physically moving, a cd-rom drive for the occasional OS installation is fine. But, for all other uses, it's not a good assumption that there's one attached, nor that the networked cd-rom drive is going to be hanging off of a NeXTStep box (remember OpenStep will have different OS's under it). Ken
From: kenny@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 2Gb Hard drive recommendation wanted Date: 24 Jun 1994 22:02:23 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2ufl5f$9sj@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <940619143559.5054AACUH.malc@jeeves> In article <940619143559.5054AACUH.malc@jeeves> "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: > We recently got a Seagate 12400N. Works fine. > In case anybody wants a disktab for it... > > st12400n|ST12400N|Seatgate ST12400N:\ > :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#2621:nt#19:ns#80:ss#1024:rm#5411:\ > :fp#512:bp#512:\ > :os=mach_kernel:z0#80:z1#168:ro=a:\ > :pa#0:sa#2079360:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:ra#5:da#4096:oa=time:\ > :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: > > (Thanks to Paul Armitage of Trimac Technology Ltd for sorting this out.) > > Have fun, > > mmalcolm. I just finished installing a Seagate Barracuda into my machine. No muss, no fuss, no stinkin' disktab entries. -- Kenny Leung System Administrator University of Alberta Hospital Neurology 403-492-7253 Phone 403-480-3650 Pager (Preferred) 403-433-0427 Fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM compatibility? Message-ID: <Crx98E.BH3@Dunx1.OCS.Drexel.Edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Sender: news@Dunx1.OCS.Drexel.Edu Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci. References: <CrttF0.L40@tfs.com> <Crv3M9.1Hx@tfs.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 22:02:38 GMT Ken Worthy (kenw@tfs.com) wrote: : I just phoned NeXT technical support asking why a Sun couldn't read my : NEXTTIME cd-rom. As many of you probably already know, the answer is : that NeXT uses its own, PROPRIETARY, cd-rom file system, not the commonly : available standard (HSFS). : I've generally been very pro-NeXT, but when you run into things like this : you start to understand the bad vibes about NeXT in the industry. Why would you want to put the NEXTIME CD on a Sun, anyway? Can't use it, (the software) so why bother? -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerti@BITart.sub.org (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Summary: Format of NeXTStep CDs. Message-ID: <CrxArB.q7@BITart.sub.org> Sender: usenet@BITart.sub.org Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting References: <2uc5mu$4sn@bmerha64.bnr.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 22:35:34 GMT In article <2uc5mu$4sn@bmerha64.bnr.ca> pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) writes: > Thanks to all who replied to my original note. The short answer to the > question "What format does NeXT use for NeXTStep CDs?" is > "proprietary". Unfortunately. > > The "proprietary" format is actually BSD 4.3 or a variant on BSD 4.3: > various replies referred to 4.3, reverse byte ordered 4.3, "come custom > BSD format" based on 4.3, etc. One response mentioned that its too bad > that Sun doesn't support r4.3. > I thought, it would be ISO-9660 with Rock Ridge extensions??? Gerd
From: sperkins@osage.csc.ti.com (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What exactly is NeXTTime supposed to provide Date: 22 Jun 1994 14:57:02 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Distribution: world Message-ID: <SPERKINS.94Jun22095703@osage.csc.ti.com> I'm curious as to exactly what NeXTTime (I believe NeXT's equivalent to Apple's QuickTime) is supposed to provide. I understand it is supposed to be some sort of multi-media tool but that is the limit of my knowledge. Anybody have pointers to papers/manuals/descriptions of what either NeXTTime or QuickTime is supposed to provide? TIA, Steve -- =========================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Texas Instruments | sperkins@csc.ti.com Dallas, TX | (214) 995-1794
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <si@sisnext.sf.ca.us> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 07:11:11 -0800 From: si@sisnext.sf.ca.us (Lawrence S. Kroll) Message-ID: <9406241511.AA00900@sisnext.uucp> Subject: toaster wanted Where can I find a good buy on an Amiga Video Toaster 4000? Are they as good as they say for editing video?
From: wln@news.cs.columbia.edu (William Lee Nussbaum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM compatibility? Date: 25 Jun 1994 01:53:41 -0400 Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science Message-ID: <2uggp5$sib@pizza.cs.columbia.edu> References: <CrttF0.L40@tfs.com> <Crv3M9.1Hx@tfs.com> <Crx98E.BH3@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> In article <Crx98E.BH3@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu>, Jonathan Hendry <tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu> wrote: > >Why would you want to put the NEXTIME CD on a Sun, anyway? Can't use it, >(the software) so why bother? ...if I happened to only have a CD-ROM drive hanging off the Sun, I'd like to be able to read the NEXTIME CD (which has no need of being bootable) without shutting down both machines (esp when the Sun is someone else's workstation)... as it happens, the NeXT is the only one with a CD drive hanging off of it, which made installing from a Sun software CD-ROM written in its 4.2 ufs format an equivalent pain... - Lee
From: laire@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Summary: Format of NeXTStep CDs. Date: 25 Jun 1994 09:28:22 +0200 Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany Message-ID: <2ugmam$4tl@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de> References: <2uc5mu$4sn@bmerha64.bnr.ca> <CrxArB.q7@BITart.sub.org> gerti@BITart.sub.org (Gerd Knops) writes: >> The "proprietary" format is actually BSD 4.3 or a variant on BSD 4.3: >> various replies referred to 4.3, reverse byte ordered 4.3, "come custom >> BSD format" based on 4.3, etc. One response mentioned that its too bad >> that Sun doesn't support r4.3. >> >I thought, it would be ISO-9660 with Rock Ridge extensions??? It's definitely not...i checked the headers because i also want to be able to access my NextStep CDs on another computer. It's probably a custom Bsd Filesystem format. Regards -- Ralph Schmidt laire@uni-paderborn.de University of Paderborn (Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pred@ri.com (Predrag S. Bundalo) Subject: Re: lost carriage returns with remote login Message-ID: <CrxEIF.6M9@ri.com> Keywords: line feed, 3.2, remote log in Organization: Rom Industries Corporation, Chicago. References: <2u2jhu$5li@times.stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 23:56:38 GMT Daniel Hitt <hitt@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote: >There's a system running version 3.2 of the operating system which >i log onto occasionally. > >When i log on remote (using telnet from another machine, which i >am also remote logged on from kermit on a 386) and do commands like >ls, the output often seems to be dropping carriage returns --- i >get something like: > >> ls > file1 file2 file3 > file4 file6 file7 I don't know why this happens either, but the fix is to type in stty -extproc Regards, -- `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,` `,`, Pred Bundalo `,`,`,`,`,`,`,` (NeXTmail-able) Pred_Bundalo@ri.com `,`,` `,`, Rom Industries `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,,` (School) Pred_Bundalo@iit.edu `,` `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Subject: Re: Would like focus-follows-mouse? Message-ID: <Cry10M.3Ms@fafnir.com> Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA References: <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 08:02:45 GMT In article <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) writes: > Question from a NeXTSTEP neophite (and possibly a heresy :-) - is > there a way to change NeXTSTEP's "click-to-focus" to "focus-follows-mouse"? > I didn't see any way of doing this from the Preferences. I know that > the latter focus method "violates" some NeXTSTEP UI commandments - but, hey, > I can't get used to this inefficient way of flipping from window to > window - and I've gotten too used to it in my many years of X11. > It's a question of brain damage. But here's the fix from my files, to allow you to limp along for the few years you've got left. Note: this is pretty old, so don't just apply the diffs blindly! Path: fafnir!uunet!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!noao!arizona!dkoski From: dkoski@cs.arizona.edu (David Koski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: mouse pointer focus Message-ID: <1850@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> Date: 5 Sep 91 02:52:29 GMT References: <1843@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson Lines: 54 In article <1843@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> dkoski@cs.arizona.edu (David Koski) writes: >I have patched the window server on the next to give me pointer focus >just like a sun. Is anyone out there interested in it? I don't think >I can post the windowserver code, but context diffs would probably be >OK (copyrights and all). > >If anyone is interested in this, I will post it. Well, a lot of people are interested. The windowserver code is in /usr/lib/NextStep/windowPackage.ps. Before doing any of this make sure you have a copy of this code. The fixes work for me, and I have tested them fairly well, but I cannot gaurantee anything. The code works by dummying up a left mouse down and a left mouse up in the title bar of the window that the cursor rests in. This way the application will use the correct window. The application is not activated, so it doesn't pop to the front (a good thing). The command keys will go to whatever application is the current one (ie the one that has the menu in the corner). If anyone has questions/comments/flames/improvements, send them to me at dkoski@cs.arizona.edu. Anyway, here is the context diff which does it. You can apply it using patch, or by hand, or whatever. *** windowPackage.ps Mon Sep 2 11:41:32 1991 --- windowPackage.ps.old Wed Aug 28 15:53:05 1991 *************** *** 1509,1525 **** activeApp 0 eq { /beep winexec }{ ! % activeApp true /postByContext winexec ! 0 currentmouse ! Above 0 findwindow 4 2 roll pop pop ! { dup dup dup currentwindowbounds exch pop add ! % win win win x y ! 1 3 1 roll 0 0 6 -1 roll 0 0 % win win 1 x y 0 0 win 0 0 ! 9 -1 roll currentowner % win 1 x y 0 0 win 0 0 context ! 9 copy /transmitEvent winexec ! 2 9 1 roll /transmitEvent winexec pop ! currentowner true /postByContext winexec ! }{ 10 {pop} repeat } ifelse } ifelse } ifelse } _NXDefProc --- 1505,1511 ---- activeApp 0 eq { /beep winexec }{ ! activeApp true /postByContext winexec } ifelse } ifelse } _NXDefProc -- What I did must have been right, or an angel would have stopped me, just as the angel stopped Abraham in the Bible. -- Albert Fish, the cannibal Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
From: mcanji@vaxb.acs.unt.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: list of prepress publishing houses that take Next files Date: 25 Jun 94 11:33:49 CDT Organization: University of North Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <1994Jun25.113349.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> References: <2u1rtb$c4m@network.ucsd.edu> I had a pleasant experience dealing with: Daniel Wasserman Light Printing Co., Inc. 101 Lafayette St. New York, NY 10013 1-212-226-5003 (work) 1-212-226-2777 (fax) 1-212-226-5075 xData (modem) e-mail: LightPrinting@gun.com The job was done on time, and staff was helpful and friendly. Mirko Canji SoftwarePlus > Is there a list of prepress publishing houses that take Next postscript or > application (Create) files by NeXTmail or modem transfer and > photostatically or linotronically process them to paper or negative? > If you have this information please post and email to me at > murshid@unit.edu. > Thank you > Murshid
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: aharriso@satchmo.math.uno.edu (Adam J. Harrison) Subject: Postscript Mac->Next Message-ID: <1994Jun24.180227.7894@cs.uno.edu> Sender: news@cs.uno.edu Organization: University of New Orleans Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:02:27 GMT I'm using my mac at home to write a TeX document. I've drawn an image using Adobe Illustrator and saved it of course as an eps file. Or have I? When I try to use that file in a TeX document on my NeXT at work I can view the picture but the damn thing refuses to print. Does anyone know what's happening. Is there a difference in the postscript platforms? As a curiosity I can print the picture by itself just not as part of a TeX document. Adam Harrison
From: jin@gandalf.rutgers.edu (gum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: zipadedooazipadeea Message-ID: <Jun.25.14.15.18.1994.2744@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 25 Jun 94 18:15:18 GMT References: <1994Jun15.195825.8645@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. zipadedooazipadeea ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Whatdoesitmean? fdoghghierg9jgjirngrgre.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Dell dropped from NeXT's Hardware Compatibility Guide Message-ID: <CryA87.zH@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2u5l9e$cov@inxs.concert.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 11:21:43 GMT In article <2u5l9e$cov@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) writes: #No Dell boxes on the Hardware Compatiblity Guide (as far as Certified #Systems)...If you take a look at the new Guide (June 16), there are very few #Certified systems on the Guide now, which causes me concern. # #Dave I went to the Expo last week and there were quite a few machines that were compatible. The also had a Sparc with OpenStep under glass. (probably a screen shot) Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Dell dropped from NeXT's Hardware Compatibility Guide Message-ID: <Crzrvy.5u3@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <2u5l9e$cov@inxs.concert.net> <CryA87.zH@infoserv.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 06:40:45 GMT kent@infoserv.com wrote: : In article <2u5l9e$cov@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm : Shift Corporation) writes: : #No Dell boxes on the Hardware Compatiblity Guide (as far as Certified : #Systems)...If you take a look at the new Guide (June 16), there are very few : #Certified systems on the Guide now, which causes me concern. They seem to have 'updated' the guide, so that only systems verified using NS 3.2 are listed. I was quite surprised to see all Dells removed from the Ceritifed list, and only 1 Dell (the OptiPlex 466/MVX) on the Listed list. Then again, the Intel/GX was conspicuously absent from either list, and if you look in the device support at the end of the guide, you'll see comitments to re-do the God-awful-buggy sound driver and actually release the Adaptec 6X60 SCSI driver (both are on-board components of the GX)... Note that in previous lists, the GX was shown as having only been tested under 3.1, as with most "Listed" systems. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: bj031@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Dipl.-Ing. Karl-Heinz Kohlenbeck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Summary: Format of NeXTStep CDs. Date: 26 Jun 1994 13:22:30 +0200 Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne Message-ID: <2ujodmINN139e@rs3.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> Keywords: SCSI, SCSI-1, SCSI-2 >Another interesting point learned was that NeXT HW is SCSI-1: the >choice of SCSI-2 connectors was made on the basis of form factor. No, thats definitely not true ! It's the Software (e.g. Disk-Driver) that will not take advantage of SCSI-2, like tagged-queing or Group-2-Commands. The SCSI-Chip which is a NCR 53C90A was designed to directly replace the NCR 53C90 (which is strict SCSI-1) to upgrade to SCSI-2 [1,2]. If you hack around and examine the Chip-registers you can see that NeXT use it in 53C90 Compatibly-Mode, which means SCSI-1 mode. The SCSI-Chip is configured by Software in this way: - Parity-Checking enabled, but no aborting if a parity-error is detected - No synchronous mode. - No SCSI-2 Commands (e.g. no tagged-queing or Group-2-Commands). All things checked on NeXTStation (25MHz), with NS 3.2. I'm not sure which SCSI-Chip NeXT used in the older 030-Cube, if someone can told me.. [1] NCR 53C90 Advanced SCSI Processor, User Guide [2] NCR 53C90A, 53C90B Advanced SCSI Controller By, Joerg --- PLEASE REPLY ONLY TO THE EMAIL ADDRESS BELOW Joerg Passenberg eMail: iss004@cips1.gm.fh-koeln.de (NeXTMail) Alte Hofstr.31 iss004@advs2.gm.fh-koeln.de 51709 Marienheide Phone: +49 2264 6991 Germany Fax: +49 2264 28223 (by arrangement)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Doug Moore Subject: Re: Summary: Format of NeXTStep CDs. Message-ID: <Cs06zs.DwD@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <2ujodmINN139e@rs3.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 12:06:53 GMT Dipl.-Ing. Karl-Heinz Kohlenbeck writes > It's the Software (e.g. Disk-Driver) that will not take advantage > of SCSI-2, like tagged-queing or Group-2-Commands. [Munch] So, what will it take to convince NeXT that updating the SCSI driver to support SCSI-2 is worth while? Those of us owning NeXT HW still are the most numerous group with a single hardware configuration, and as they supposedly understand this hardware quite well it should not be an enourmous task to do this. Too bad that the Driver kit doesn't work on NeXT's own hardware! Could it be that there are other problems to implimenting SCSI-2 that have not been addressed here? This seems like it would have been a fairly simple fix two years ago. -- Douglas Moore St Paul, MN 612-227-3274 dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Where can I find NeXTSTEP books in the Bay Area? Message-ID: <1994Jun26.014602.6234@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <2ud4si$h7g@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Distribution: ca Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 01:46:02 GMT In article <2ud4si$h7g@ftp-p.mccaw.com> jon.kolyer@mccaw.com writes: * Staceys in Palo Alto has tons of computer-related titles. * I'd be very surprised if there was a Next-book they didn't have. Staceys [on University Avenue] in Palo Alto, like you said. The Stanford University Bookstore ANNEX [on University Avenue] in Palo Alto. Computer Literacy Bookstores. Sunnyvale at Lawrence between Oakmead Parkway and Arques Avenue. San Jose at North First Street and Trimble Road. Cupertino on Stevens Creek. ........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: How do you print Windows files on a NeXT printer? Message-ID: <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 15:52:18 GMT Is it possible to produce Postscript output from most popular Windows word processors that will print on a NeXT printer? I want to buy a PC running Windows but still use my NeXT printer. Anyone else doing this? Dave Griffiths
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How do you print Windows files on a NeXT printer? Date: 26 Jun 1994 17:19:32 GMT Organization: Harmony Data Systems Message-ID: <2ukdb4$r0c@news1.digex.net> References: <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: > Is it possible to produce Postscript output from most popular Windows word > processors that will print on a NeXT printer? I want to buy a PC running > Windows but still use my NeXT printer. Anyone else doing this? > > Dave Griffiths I setup the Windows PostScript printer driver to print to a file. Then go to NeXTSTEP and lpr it. - Scott
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How do you print Windows files on a NeXT printer? Date: 26 Jun 1994 13:39:22 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu Message-ID: <2ukega$a05@acmex.gatech.edu> References: <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: :Is it possible to produce Postscript output from most popular Windows word :processors that will print on a NeXT printer? I want to buy a PC running :Windows but still use my NeXT printer. Anyone else doing this? : :Dave Griffiths I know of a cheezy was to do it: Set up Windows to print to an HP Laserjet III Postscript, go in to the setup and hit the radio button labeled 'print to encapulated postscript' (or something like that). When you print, it will produce a file (that you choose)... Take the file, upload it to your NeXT, and print it (you can use lpr or Preview).. the pages will come out backwards, and it's far from automatic, and it requires having both a NeXT and a PC, but I use this process every day and it works fine. I would love to hear alternatives, though! I don't enjoy all this effort I have to go through to print :) -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332 CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202 Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle) Subject: 2D & 3D Visual Linear Programming App. Message-ID: <1994Jun26.180505.1232@dagobah.fdn.org> Keywords: visual, linear programming, 2D, 3D, maximization, minimization, functional Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.org Organization: Individual Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 18:05:05 GMT Hi Folks, I've written an application that allows to visually solve 2 and 3 variables (i.e. in 2D & 3D) linear programming problems. The application is far from having reached maturity, yet it already shows most functionnalities (i.e. it doesn't look very NS guideline compliant although, for example, it already features EPS copy&paste of the 2D & 3D graphics) It was developed as a tool to complement a University level course in "Quantitative Methods in Decision Making", but could also very well apply to any "Linear Algebra" class. For instance, some features would allow a teacher to visually create a problem and export the graphics into any WP package so as to design a quiz for students to be graded on the theory behind linear inequations systems... The sad thing is that this project has been left unused and compressed somewhere in my HD for over a year now... which is kinda stupid. I would like to do something out of this package; and in order to finish its implemetation (if no one else wants to do it), I need some motivation (since I have completed Quants more than two years ago ;-) If you feel concerned, please consider the following questions: - how much would you be willing to pay for the binary ? or do you feel that it should be shareware, or even freeware ? - in what context would you be using such an app. ? - is there anyone out there interested in the source code ? why ? I would be glad to discuss any suggestion, idea, etc... Note: of course, I wouldn't mind making some money out of it, be it from the source code, or from the binary. Hope this rings a bell somewhere. Yann. -- \ Yann Lechelle (Paris, FRANCE) / / yann@dagobah.fdn.org Email/NeXTmail \ \ "grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines." /
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: DEC OpenStep Announcement Message-ID: <Cs0u2t.8KC@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 20:25:41 GMT I was confused by a statement in the second paragraph of the subject announce- ment. I quote: "Sun Microsystems, Inc,, and Hewlett-Packard Company have already committed to products based on OpenStep." Since Sun has indeed comitted to OpenStep running on Soloris, does the above imply that HP-UX will be supporting OpenStep. If so, this is the first I have heard of it. Did I miss some previous news announcement? I certainly hope so. --Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: DEC OpenStep Announcement Date: 26 Jun 1994 17:19:36 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <2ul5uo$64j@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <Cs0u2t.8KC@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Tim Pugh writes: >I was confused by a statement in the second paragraph of the subject announce- >ment. I quote: "Sun Microsystems, Inc,, and Hewlett-Packard Company have >already committed to products based on OpenStep." >Since Sun has indeed comitted to OpenStep running on Soloris, does the above >imply that HP-UX will be supporting OpenStep. If so, this is the first I >have heard of it. Did I miss some previous news announcement? I certainly >hope so. NEXTSTEP is OpenStep compliant. Thus, any company that commits to NEXTSTEP is commiting to a product that is based on OpenStep. Tricky, eh?
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: DEC OpenStep Announcement Date: 27 Jun 1994 03:00:47 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2ulfcv$3gf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <Cs0u2t.8KC@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> <2ul5uo$64j@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: >NEXTSTEP is OpenStep compliant. Thus, any company that commits to NEXTSTEP >is commiting to a product that is based on OpenStep. Actually, NEXTSTEP *will be* OpenStep compliant, in a later release. Until the OpenStep draft specification is released, we can only guess exactly what that means. -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kevins@bmd.com Subject: Re: Looking for BSD Unix for NextStation Message-ID: <1994Jun25.202501.18576@bMD.com> Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <2u5e8k$k4e@ugle.unit.no> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:25:01 GMT In article <2u5e8k$k4e@ugle.unit.no> rune@uranus.ifi.unit.no (Rune Sandnes) writes: > My student's society has inherited a NextServer, with NextStep 2 on it. We > can't afford an upgrade (unless it's free, we wouldn't know - there are no > dealers for Next here, and this is as far as we know the only Next box in > town.) > > Most NS software that floats around the net requires NS 3.0 or better. > We find the NextServer very difficult to integrate with our existing machines, > and really could use it's processor and disk for something more useful > (e.g. a news-server) than an interesting museum object. > > We're told there is a FREE-BSD port for the Next. True? Where? > > Of course, if we got a software upgrade things would look different. I would > really like to have a NextStep machine around, just to give people the > possibility to try hands on what they have only hear about earlier... > > Rune If I'm not mistaken the cost of the 3.2 upgrade for edu is very cheap. I say splurge. Then you might want to crank up Digital Librarian and read a bit about NS. --- Kevin Solie Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc. Director: Kentucky NeXTSTEP Users Group Software Engineer: Alternate Worlds Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: leb@label.tau.ac.il (Larry Blume) Subject: Re: How do you print Windows files on a NeXT printer? Message-ID: <1994Jun27.055903.13577@aristo.tau.ac.il> Sender: usenet@aristo.tau.ac.il (USENET) Organization: Tel-Aviv University Computation Center References: <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 05:59:03 GMT In article <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: > Is it possible to produce Postscript output from most popular Windows word > processors that will print on a NeXT printer? I want to buy a PC running > Windows but still use my NeXT printer. Anyone else doing this? > I have viewed and printed many postscript files from many windows wps on my NeXT, and I am impressed (and very disappointed) with the variability of the postscript generated by the various drivers. Some stuff looks OK, some stuff will print but not view, and I had one file from MS-WORD for which the only remedy was a reboot. And why is it that some windows drivers begin every .ps file with a control-D? Is this just contrary behavior by microsoft? -- ******************************************************************* Larry Blume Reply To: LB19@CORNELL.EDU Eitan Berglas School of Economics Voice: 972-03-640-7167 Tel Aviv University Fax: 972-03-640-9908 Naftali Bldg Ramat Aviv, Tel Aviv 69978
From: fosdal@phenxm.physics.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Apple LaserWriter Pro 630 on a NeXT Date: 27 Jun 1994 14:07:59 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <2ummfv$1os@news.doit.wisc.edu> Hi *, We are trying to hook up a Apple LaserWriter Pro 630 to a nextstation running NS3.2. This has all worked fine. The problem is that we would like to be able to use the ehternet capability for the Pro 630 from our nexts. We have no macinstosh to act as a printer host. The driver (/NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/Apple_LaserWriter_Pro_630.ppd) that we have only supports serial communication. Does anybody know of a solution (better driver?) Thanks in advance, -- S. R. Fosdal UW-Madison Physics Dept. NeXT System 1150 University Ave, Madison WI 53706 Management W: (608)262-9820 F: (608)262-8628 and Programming fosdal@phenxm.physics.wisc.edu (NeXT mail o.k.)
From: steve@tarski.math.nd.edu(Steven Buechler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 15:45:34 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Message-ID: <940627104534.1556AABpE.steve@tarski> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In Darren Smith's press release about DEC adopting OpenStep he says: >OpenStep provides a common object-oriented framework across Intel, PA-RISC, SPARC, Alpha >AXP and PowerPC-based systems, creating a large market for software developers and >minimizing platform dependencies. What OpenStep-compliant-to-be operating system runs on PowerPC? I think I missed something. Thanks, Steve __________________________________________ Steven Buechler |"But I thought I Department of Mathematics |fixed that!" Mail Distribution Center | University of Notre Dame | Notre Dame, IN 46556 | (219)631-6233 Internet: steve@tarski.math.nd.edu NeXTmail and MIME accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) Subject: Re: Would like focus-follows-mouse? Message-ID: <Crx7u6.8H9@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories References: <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> <2uf8th$3dc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 21:32:29 GMT Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote: : In article <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) writes: : Because no one else seems to have posted the answer, I'll post a hint: : hack /usr/lib/NextStep/windowPackage.ps. It's been done before, but the : details are left as an exercise for the user :-) ...as an exercise for the masochists among us, you mean :-) I know even less about Postscript code than I do about NS (i'd put a smiley here, if it weren't so sad :-) In any event, some kind folks have pointed out that such follow-mouse focus policy may not be a good idea under NS simply because some aspects of the environment rely on the click-focus paradigm to work correctly... I'll learn to adjust, I suppose. Thanks everyone who responded though. Tom -- +------------------------------------------+ | Thomas Wolf | (908) 957-3955 |...Still can't think of anything | Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@merlin.mt.att.com | original to put in my sig... | MT 4D-213 | wolf@jolt.mt.att.com |...So this valuable real-estate +------------------------------------------+ is for sale... Disclaimer: These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) Subject: Cannot get floppy to work under NS Message-ID: <Crx8D3.8KE@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 21:43:51 GMT More trouble. Just installed NS 3.2 on an PC clone. Everything seems to work except for the floppy! If I boot the system under DOS, god help me, the drive works fine, but I can't do anything with it in NeXT. Does anyone have any idea as to how to "activate" it? Thanks for any help (or references to the solution). Tom -- +------------------------------------------+ | Thomas Wolf | (908) 957-3955 |...Still can't think of anything | Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@merlin.mt.att.com | original to put in my sig... | MT 4D-213 | wolf@jolt.mt.att.com |...So this valuable real-estate +------------------------------------------+ is for sale... Disclaimer: These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: bcstcoop@bnr.ca (Rob Parkhill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Tailor limits? (was: Re: Would like focus-follows-mouse?) Date: 27 Jun 1994 17:38:57 GMT Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa Message-ID: <2un2rh$ehc@bmerha64.bnr.ca> References: <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> <2uf8th$3dc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <Crx7u6.8H9@nntpa.cb.att.com> >Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote: >: In article <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) writes: >: Because no one else seems to have posted the answer, I'll post a hint: >: hack /usr/lib/NextStep/windowPackage.ps. It's been done before, but the >: details are left as an exercise for the user :-) Hmmm, I wonder what might happen if you were to open this file with Tailor? I've seen Tailor do some amazing things so I might just give this one a try tonight... later... Rob -- Rob Parkhill, bcstcoop@bnr.ca | o/\_ | o | \\ // |"But what about BNR Ottawa (613) 763 7077 | <\__,\| /\, |\\ \\// //| big heads that I will not speak for BNR. I | "> || -|~(*)/| \\//\\// | are stupid?" will not do it, Sam you are. | : || (*) /-' | \/ \/ | - James Burke
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dell dropped from NeXT's Hardware Compatibility Guide Date: 27 Jun 1994 19:01:04 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <2un7lg$f0t@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <2u5l9e$cov@inxs.concert.net> <CryA87.zH@infoserv.com> <Crzrvy.5u3@cunews.carleton.ca> Chris Saldanha (csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca) wrote: : Then again, the Intel/GX was conspicuously absent from either list, and : if you look in the device support at the end of the guide, you'll see : comitments to re-do the God-awful-buggy sound driver and actually release : the Adaptec 6X60 SCSI driver (both are on-board components of the GX)... : Note that in previous lists, the GX was shown as having only been tested : under 3.1, as with most "Listed" systems. This could be because Intel is discontinuing the GX, I am told by our Intel OEM distributors (we sell Intel OEMed boxes). +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, <- finger for PGP key | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lbove@net_6_10.trimark.com (Lui Bove) Subject: NeXT Mail and Macintosh Mail Message-ID: <1994Jun27.184450.22068@trimark.com> Sender: news@trimark.com Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 18:44:50 GMT Has anybody in the world been able bridge NeXT Mail with any Macintosh mail product. We are presently using Quickmail on the Macintosh, but I would be more than willing to try any other Macintosh mail product that has facilities like address synchronization, enclosure translation to RTF, WKS, ASCII. I'm not asking for much am I???
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How do you print Windows files on a NeXT printer? Date: 27 Jun 1994 20:33:47 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <2und3b$1ia@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: |>Is it possible to produce Postscript output from most popular Windows word |>processors that will print on a NeXT printer? I want to buy a PC running |>Windows but still use my NeXT printer. Anyone else doing this? |> |>Dave Griffiths Hi, If you use the latest Adobe PostScript level 2 printdriver for Windows, it will take a PPD file telling what kind of printer it is printing to, and thus you can easily copy the NeXT LaserPrinter PPD file, /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/NeXT_400_dpi_Level_II_Printer.ppd, and install that in Windows with the Adobe driver. Then print to file, through that driver and PPD file, and the output should conform to the Adobe/NeXT standard. Purely teoretical, haven t tested it yet, but should definitely work! Good luck! Best Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 _____________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next From: chou@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Ching-Tsun Chou) Subject: Swap disk Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1994Jun27.213435.26048@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 21:34:35 GMT I have a simple question about my NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 2.1 (yes, there are still people running 2.1! :-). I use an external disk as the boot disk. How do I use the internal disk as the swap disk (for virtual memory)? What I do now is to manually execute: /usr/etc/mach_swapon -v -o prefer,lowat=20971520,hiwat=52428800 /InternalDisk/private/vm/swapfile after I "su" and become the root in a Terminal window. This is not only boring but also produces a "can't eject a disk" panel when I want to turn off the machine (though nothing bad actually happened). How do I make the machine to automatically use the internal disk as the swap disk when I turn it on? Since I don't read this newsgroup, please send your replies to chou@cs.ucla.edu Many, many thanks in advance!!! Cheers, Ching-Tsun Chou
From: antony@datatext.dircon.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How do you print Windows files on a NeXT printer? Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 22:50:51 PDT Organization: The Direct Connection Ltd Message-ID: <2unhj6$kqj@felix.dircon.co.uk> References: <1994Jun27.055903.13577@aristo.tau.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In article <1994Jun27.055903.13577@aristo.tau.ac.il>, <leb@label.tau.ac.il> writes: > In article <1994Jun26.155218.872@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave > Griffiths) writes: > > Is it possible to produce Postscript output from most popular Windows word > > processors that will print on a NeXT printer? I want to buy a PC running > > Windows but still use my NeXT printer. Anyone else doing this? > > > > I have viewed and printed many postscript files from many windows wps on my NeXT, > and I am impressed (and very disappointed) with the variability of the postscript > generated by the various drivers. Some stuff looks OK, some stuff will print but > not view, and I had one file from MS-WORD for which the only remedy was a reboot. > And why is it that some windows drivers begin every .ps file with a control-D? Is > this just contrary behavior by microsoft? > My Chameleon manual says you need to a line in your win.ini file, under the heading for your printer: e.g. [Apple Laser writer II NTX,LPT1] CtrlD=0 Antony Freeman Data Text
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Mail and Macintosh Mail Date: 27 Jun 1994 22:36:34 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2unk9i$d7a@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <1994Jun27.184450.22068@trimark.com> In article <1994Jun27.184450.22068@trimark.com>, Lui Bove <lbove@net_6_10.trimark.com> wrote: >Has anybody in the world been able bridge NeXT Mail with any Macintosh >mail product. Isn't there a port of Z-Mail to NeXTSTEP?
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Date: 27 Jun 1994 23:27:14 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2unn8i$96q@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <940627104534.1556AABpE.steve@tarski> steve@tarski.math.nd.edu(Steven Buechler) writes: >In Darren Smith's press release about DEC adopting OpenStep he says: >>OpenStep provides a common object-oriented framework across Intel, PA-RISC, >SPARC, Alpha >AXP and PowerPC-based systems, creating a large market for >software developers and >minimizing platform dependencies. >What OpenStep-compliant-to-be operating system runs on PowerPC? I think I >missed something. I'm not sure whether or not it's been announced, but I've heard (strong) rumors that Solaris will be ported to PowerPC. -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: bob@hanszen.rice.edu (Robert Morrison Dana) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Would like focus-follows-mouse? Date: 27 Jun 1994 23:09:21 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <2unm71$q38@larry.rice.edu> References: <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> <CrupEL.M0u@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Klaus Brouwer (brouwer@mickey.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote: : This would be problematic on NeXTstep, because the key window can be different : from the main window. If you are in an Edit window and press cmd-f than the : find panel comes up: normaly the panel is automatically made key but the mouse : cursor might be still in the Edit window. Which window should now be the key : window? The one where the mouse cursor is in or the newly brought up panel : (conforming to the user guidlines)? Why not have focus follow the mouse between applications, but maintain the idea of a key window within an application? You could switch applications by moving the mouse. Using your example, if your mouse were in ANY edit window, the find panel would be key, If you moved outside edit, it wouldn't be. -Robert -- Robert Dana <bob@worldcom.com> (713) 650-6522 UNIX and IP Network Engineer, Sendmail Guru in training Wolf Communications, Houston, TX Go WorldCom!
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Mail and Macintosh Mail Date: 28 Jun 1994 00:59:51 GMT Organization: MCNC/NC-REN Distribution: world Message-ID: <2unsm7$ml2@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Jun27.184450.22068@trimark.com> In article <1994Jun27.184450.22068@trimark.com> lbove@net_6_10.trimark.com (Lui Bove) writes: > Has anybody in the world been able bridge NeXT Mail with any Macintosh > mail product. We are presently using Quickmail on the Macintosh, but I > would be more than willing to try any other Macintosh mail product that > has facilities like address synchronization, enclosure translation to RTF, > WKS, ASCII. I'm not asking for much am I??? I think if you look in c.s.n.announce, you should see that Proxima up in McLean, VA announced a product that would bridge NeXTmail would cc:Mail and Microsoft Mail...aside from that solution would sounds EXCELLENT, you could purchase Eloquent which has a great deal of PINE compatibility so you could use Eudora. Dave -- Paradigm Shift Corporation info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXT Object Channel Partner A Full-Service NeXTSTEP Organization Hours of Operation: Monday- Friday, 0700-2000 Eastern Time
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cube B&W monitor problems - diagnosis? Date: 28 Jun 1994 03:00:52 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2unso4$dee@alf.uib.no> Hi. For those of you old enough to remember the Old Days (tm), I have a BusinessLand cube bought during the "fire sale" some years ago. In my care it has been upgraded to 3.2, 040 board, 16MB RAM, 1GB disk, CD ROM, FAX/Modem, NeXTprinter, etc. I have kept it in perfect condition, cleaned it often, let it run 24 hours a day as a good (stable) Unix system should. It's worked flawlessly for many years. A few weeks ago, I began to notice the screen "jumping" or "flickering". Since I often sit up to 2 or 3 in the morning (like now) I thought it was fatigue, my eyes were joking me. This is not so - I see now that once in a while the screen boundary appears to move inward approx 0.3mm or so very quickly and then back to normal size, creating a viseable "flicker" effect, or "wavering" of the screen. The screen is a MegaPixel monitor, I can get the serial number from the back if it's important. I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced or heard of this problem, if they know what it is and how (if) it may/should be remedied. I do hope it doesn't mean my monitor is about to die. Maybe the cube never forgave me for selling the OD drive... 8-( Please e-mail responses. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Intelligraphics Email Address? Date: 28 Jun 1994 02:15:59 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uo14v$5vf@eps.com> *Does anyone have Intelligraphics E-mail address. They did the Diamond Stealth 64 drivers. -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications NeXTmail OK
From: stoleson@vnet.ibm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Date: 28 Jun 1994 00:21:46 GMT Organization: IBM Rochester Message-ID: <2unqeq$o88@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> References: <940627104534.1556AABpE.steve@tarski> In <940627104534.1556AABpE.steve@tarski>, steve@tarski.math.nd.edu(Steven Buechler) writes: > >In Darren Smith's press release about DEC adopting OpenStep he says: > >>OpenStep provides a common object-oriented framework across Intel, PA-RISC, >SPARC, Alpha >AXP and PowerPC-based systems, creating a large market for >software developers and >minimizing platform dependencies. > >What OpenStep-compliant-to-be operating system runs on PowerPC? I think I >missed something. Solaris on PPC OpenStep on Solaris Therefore OpenStep on PPC. -dave
From: gilbert134@aol.com (Gilbert134) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Date: 28 Jun 1994 01:47:04 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2uodgo$4g8@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2unn8i$96q@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <2unn8i$96q@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes: >I'm not sure whether or not it's been announced, but I've heard >(strong) rumors that Solaris will be ported to PowerPC. I've read several times that Solaris will be ported to PowerPC. It is my understanding that is not a rumour. -gil [Team OS/2]
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cannot get floppy to work under NS Date: 28 Jun 1994 01:48:59 -0700 Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus Message-ID: <2uoo5r$9me@samsara.circus.com> References: <Crx8D3.8KE@nntpa.cb.att.com> In article <Crx8D3.8KE@nntpa.cb.att.com>, Thomas Wolf <wolf@merlin.mt.att.com> wrote: >More trouble. Just installed NS 3.2 on an PC clone. Everything seems to >work except for the floppy! If I boot the system under DOS, god help me, >the drive works fine, but I can't do anything with it in NeXT. Does anyone >have any idea as to how to "activate" it? Um, you didn't specify how much you knew about how to use it... of course, there's the obvious suggestion: "in workspace, pull the 'disk' menu over to 'check for disks' and it will handle things from there". if that's not working, maybe you need to use configure.app to make sure the drive is showing up? >Thanks for any help (or references to the solution). >Tom hope this might be of some help. if it isn't maybe you could post more specific info about what you've tried and how it's gone wrong. >+------------------------------------------+ >| Thomas Wolf | (908) 957-3955 |...Still can't think of anything >| Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@merlin.mt.att.com | original to put in my sig... >| MT 4D-213 | wolf@jolt.mt.att.com |...So this valuable real-estate >+------------------------------------------+ is for sale... >Disclaimer: These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer. -Adam -- //#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#*=--=*#// // Adam Beeman \\ Standard Disclaimers Apply! // // Home = buddha@circus.com \\ work = 0; // // http://samsara.circus.com/~buddha/ \\ I don't speak for anyone //
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Would like focus-follows-mouse? Date: 28 Jun 1994 15:17:58 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <2upev6$shc@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <Crs1yH.6r5@nntpa.cb.att.com> <CrupEL.M0u@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> <2unm71$q38@larry.rice.edu> Robert Morrison Dana (bob@hanszen.rice.edu) wrote: : Why not have focus follow the mouse between applications, but maintain : the idea of a key window within an application? You could switch : applications by moving the mouse. Using your example, if your mouse : were in ANY edit window, the find panel would be key, If you moved outside : edit, it wouldn't be. It's my understanding that current point-to-focus systems typically move key-ness around with the mouse as well. There must be a reason for this, no? Anyone? The thing I hate the most about certain point-to-focus systems, is that you have to point _into_ a text field to type in it. Whoops! hit the mouse with my elbow; now I can't type there any more. Why did they do it like this? +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, <- finger for PGP key | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Wanted: Info on shipping NeXT machines Message-ID: <espritCs45Hq.LB0@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 15:25:02 GMT Could someone tell me the size and weight of a Cube packaged in its original boxes? Basically, I am talking about a MegaPixel, a Cube, a NeXT Printer and ... I don't know, did the keyboard/mouse come in a separate box? Also, could you send the answer to me at alanp@eng.sun.com? Thanks in advance. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM compatibility? Message-ID: <Cs47BJ.3w9@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <Crx3pM.LvA@tfs.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 16:04:31 GMT > NeXT, Sun, HP, DEC, etc., don't get their acts together (literally) There is work in progress for a new standard based on iso 9660, i guess called "Frankfurt" which tries to unify most of the different CD formats... Hope it helps Hans
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 14:19:22 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4i46aeC00iV8E4T0Jn@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2ua1at$2qu@news1.digex.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 22-Jun-94 Anonymous ftp by Chris Rowley@clubside.di > I checked 'man ftpd' and it talks about creating a user called 'ftp' and > setting protections and owners on ftp/bin, ftp/etc and a lot of other > shenanigans. > > I just want it to stick a user in /pub when they ftp me, and not let them > go up to the root. Also, I'd like to make those nifty text messages that > pop-up at login and directory changing. The simple question is whether you want to have security or not. If not, just create a new account and let them ftp to that. Otherwise, you must create an anonymous ftp tree as per the instructions in 'man ftpd' if you want to retain any security on your machine. Also, if you want to get a better ftp daemon that does the messages, get something like the wu ftpd, which can be found through archie. Or look on the standard NeXT ftp site for an already-configured-&-compiled-for-next version. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jura.demon.co.uk!haldane (Steve Sykes) Subject: Webster trouble Message-ID: <Cs3wpK.Cq@jura.demon.co.uk> Sender: haldane@jura.demon.co.uk (Steve Sykes) Organization: Jura Productions, London Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 12:15:20 GMT When I try to look up the word abscissa in the dictionary, the picture fails to load. I get this on the console: Jun 28 12:40:59 jura Webster[340]: Error in EPS file /NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary/pictures/abscissa.eps Jun 28 12:40:59 jura Webster[340]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 6ef0c Jun 28 12:40:59 jura Webster[340]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: repeat ]%% Anyone know what's going on? Steve. haldane@jura.demon.co.uk -- Stephen D.Sykes _______| Have you __| NeXT | Classic FM haldane@jura.demon.co.uk | hugged your | mail __| London, U.K. +44 71 284 3000 (daytime) _-| radio today? _-| O.K. __| NW1 7DQ
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Current source of memory Date: 28 Jun 1994 17:34:18 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2upmuq$9d8@masala.cc.uh.edu> What is the current sources of memory for NeXT computers? All the vendors we have dealt with in the past don't seem to have the best prices anymore... Basically, we are looking for: 1) 4 - 4M 30pin SIMMs for NeXTStation (monochrome) 2) 1 or 2 4M 72pin SIMMS for a NeXTStation color 3) The vendor must be able to accept university POs. Anyone bought memory recently and got a good deal? I have seen 30pin 4M SIMMS for as low as $169 with lifetime warrenty. Is this the lowest? Thanks! -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP with HP DAT drive Message-ID: <1994Jun28.191548.1192@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 19:15:48 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) Organization: Institut fuer Informatik Keywords: DAT drive Hello, and excuse the cross posting - I'm desperate. I always thought the good old black hardware was plug and play. Today I received a HP C1533A DDS-2 DAT drive for evaluation. I have installed the tapefix program to set the block size to a fixed byte length and I can inquire the drive information with a program called st (similar to mt, but with more commands and really only for Cartridge tapes), but I can't do anything else. (Oh, mt -f /dev/rst0 fsf 1 will wind the tape, but after a while it will cause the drive to flash the error lamps) Neither tar, cpio, SaftyNet and my own program will write any data. I only get an I/O error such as: "tar: can't write to /dev/rst0 : I/O error". SaftyNet (in demo mode) will simply refuse to write a lable, so I can't use it! Does anybody have any idea what I can do? I have to return the device within a few days if I can't get it to work. Thank's a lot for any help. -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Henry Flurry <henry_flurry@imagine.com> Subject: Spherical Solutions Phone number Message-ID: <Cs4Hnn.9Mr@mediastation.com> Keywords: Spherical Solutions Sender: usenet@mediastation.com Organization: Media Station, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 19:47:46 GMT Anyone know Spherical Solutions' current phone number? Thanks! - hsf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kenw@tfs.com (Ken Worthy) Subject: Re: Summary: Format of NeXTStep CDs. Message-ID: <Cs4KCr.4CG@tfs.com> Organization: TRW Financial Systems References: <2uc5mu$4sn@bmerha64.bnr.ca> <CrxArB.q7@BITart.sub.org> <2ugmam$4tl@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 20:46:03 GMT Someone from NeXT told me that the NS CD's are in the generic 4.3BSD file system format, and that most other vendors who use the 4.3 BSD format customize it, but NeXT doesn't. Ken Ralph Schmidt (laire@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de) wrote: : It's definitely not...i checked the headers because i also want : to be able to access my NextStep CDs on another computer. : It's probably a custom Bsd Filesystem format. : Regards : -- : Ralph Schmidt laire@uni-paderborn.de : University of Paderborn (Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us (Robert C. Doss) Subject: Tab Stops, Pages, and You Message-ID: <Cs4LnH.5oC@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 21:14:04 GMT How do I set the Tab Stops or bring up the Ruler in Pages? I have poured through the manual, looked at every menu choice, and typed Command+r for the ruler and could not find any clues as to how I can get these features to work in Pages. -- *---------------------------------------------------------------------* |Robert C. Doss Jr. |Internet:RobDoss@nvc.cc.ca.us|NeXT mail & MIME ok| |Napa Valley College|Fax: (707) 253-3063 |MIME mail preferred| *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
From: mollie@cs.colgate.edu(Mollie Tucker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 14.4 MODEM for 68040 CUBE Date: 28 Jun 1994 16:45:10 GMT Organization: Colgate University Message-ID: <2upk2m$cpm@mercury.colgate.edu> Keywords: MODEM Could someone recommend a 14.4 modem to dial into a 68040 CUBE. I also need to know how to set the modem up to use hardware flow control. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you -- Mollie Tucker Computer Science Department Colgate University mollie@cs.colgate.edu
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Current source of memory Date: 29 Jun 1994 01:45:47 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <2uqjob$8vv@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> References: <2upmuq$9d8@masala.cc.uh.edu> Paul S. Sears writes > Anyone bought memory recently and got a good deal? > > I have seen 30pin 4M SIMMS for as low as $169 with lifetime warrenty. Yow! I bought these from Chip Merchant in July of 1992, before most of you were born, for $96.50 a pop, COD with free shipping. Why is it that NOTHING in my three-year-old '040 cube (except for the hard drive) is replaceable today for what I paid for it new??? `When the lion has you half swallowed, +---------------------------------+ probe with your feet for a vital spot; | Joshua Burton (401)435-6370 | maybe you can kick him to death from | burton@het.brown.edu | the inside.' -- Spider Robinson +---------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) Subject: How to set shell bkg color? Message-ID: <Cs50wG.DFJ@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 02:43:28 GMT Yet another novice question: how can I change the background/foreground colors of the terminal windows/shells? I couldn't find any "preference" for this. My eyes get tired looking at white (or other high-intensity colors) for any prolonged period. In X11 I have all my Terminal windows come up with black background & orange (i.e. "amber") foreground. Thnx again for any info. Advanced apologies if this is in the FAQ. I'm writing this from home and don't have that doc handy. Tom -- +------------------------------------------+ | Thomas Wolf | (908) 957-3955 |...Still can't think of anything | Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@merlin.mt.att.com | original to put in my sig... | MT 4D-213 | wolf@jolt.mt.att.com |...So this valuable real-estate +------------------------------------------+ is for sale... Disclaimer: These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: mike@dannug.dk (Michael Zedeler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Swap disk Date: 28 Jun 1994 10:26:58 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uotti$12a@nexia.dk> References: <1994Jun27.213435.26048@cs.ucla.edu> In article <1994Jun27.213435.26048@cs.ucla.edu> chou@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Ching-Tsun Chou) writes: > > > I have a simple question about my NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 2.1 > (yes, there are still people running 2.1! :-). I use an external > disk as the boot disk. How do I use the internal disk as the swap > disk (for virtual memory)? What I do now is to manually execute: > > /usr/etc/mach_swapon -v -o prefer,lowat=20971520,hiwat=52428800 /InternalDisk/private/vm/swapfile > > after I "su" and become the root in a Terminal window. This is > not only boring but also produces a "can't eject a disk" panel when > I want to turn off the machine (though nothing bad actually happened). > How do I make the machine to automatically use the internal disk > as the swap disk when I turn it on? Does /etc/swaptab exist? In that case try looking it up in the man pages. This should solve the problem. Otherwise you could insert your line into /etc/rc.local, which automates the proces, but doesn't work around the 'Can't eject disk' problem. Michael. -- Michael Zedeler, Roskilde University, Member of Danish NeXT U. G. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence. See also: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, PC, X, 80x86. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: OmniWeb Message-ID: <Cs46xI.Cxx@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 15:56:05 GMT OK, I know this question has been asked before. I have an Intel machine that runs OmniWeb with all the images presented. However, I have a Motorola machine that does the same, except for the images. I know this has been addressed before, but I can't remember the solution. Request information. Please email responses. Thanks. Keith Salmon Aerospace Engineer United States Air Force salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
From: davidwr@dip.eecs.umich.edu (David Richardson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Powerdown warning Date: 29 Jun 1994 13:11:40 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <2urruc$pk2@zip.eecs.umich.edu> I want to modify the "power-off" buttons on the logout & loginwindow screens (Intel) so they send "shutting down now" messages to all users, like the unix "shutdown" command does. Ditto for reboot, of course. Is there any way to do this? Disabling the shutdown buttons, while doable, isn't what I want. -- -David W. Richardson, davidwr@umich.edu UofM-GO BLUE! 2305 Georgetown, Ann Arbor, MI 48105 +1 313 741 1367 <-- New addr/phone 5/1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom From: Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (Alex Nghiem) Subject: r/w 3.5 opticals: Pinnacle micro Message-ID: <1994Jun29.155918.1259@pcp.ca> Keywords: opticals Sender: news@pcp.ca Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 15:59:18 GMT Group: I'm in the market for a backup device and a larger hardfile. One of my colleagues, a sysadmin, recommended that I solved both problems by getting a 3.5 r/w drive. The only one I could find is made by Pinnacle Micro. I would like to know if any owners out there would like to share their experiences. I would like to also know if it's possible to hook this up to a SCSI port since I have a NeXT (with a SCSI port) and a PC (no SCSI port on this). Please e-mail me and I'll summarize if there's any interest. Thanks, Alex Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (until July 23rd) alex@oolesson.com (always)
From: cgeiger@davis.Central.Sun.COM (Conrad Geiger Sunsoft) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Date: 29 Jun 1994 17:02:39 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2us9ff$t8@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM> References: <2unn8i$96q@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Yes, David. Solaris (and hence OpenStep) will run on the PowerPC. The port is underway; in fact, Solaris on the PowerPC is being shown in the Sun booth at PC Expo in New York City this week. With the Solaris port to PowerPC, there will be three architectures supporting Solaris: SPARC X86 PowerPC. Conrad Geiger SunSoft
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: How to set shell bkg color? Message-ID: <Cs5u5L.HI@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <Cs50wG.DFJ@nntpa.cb.att.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:15:20 GMT In article <Cs50wG.DFJ@nntpa.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) writes: > Yet another novice question: how can I change the background/foreground colors > of the terminal windows/shells? I couldn't find any "preference" for this. > My eyes get tired looking at white (or other high-intensity colors) for any > prolonged period. In X11 I have all my Terminal windows come up with black > background & orange (i.e. "amber") foreground. > > Thnx again for any info. Advanced apologies if this is in the FAQ. I'm > writing this from home and don't have that doc handy. As far as I know you can't set colors in Termial.app. Get Stuart.app from the archives. It's shareware and I seem to remember it can do that and much more. Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Webster trouble Message-ID: <Cs5uC0.IE@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <Cs3wpK.Cq@jura.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:19:11 GMT In article <Cs3wpK.Cq@jura.demon.co.uk> jura.demon.co.uk!haldane (Steve Sykes) writes: > When I try to look up the word abscissa in the dictionary, the picture > fails to load. I get this on the console: > > Jun 28 12:40:59 jura Webster[340]: Error in EPS file > /NextLibrary/References/Webster-Dictionary/pictures/abscissa.eps > Jun 28 12:40:59 jura Webster[340]: DPS client library error: PostScript > program error, DPSContext 6ef0c > Jun 28 12:40:59 jura Webster[340]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: > repeat ]%% > > Anyone know what's going on? No, but same for me under NS3.0. The abscissa.eps seems to open ok under Preview.app though. Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Where can I buy NEXTIME? Date: 29 Jun 1994 19:48:22 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <2usj66$iv@eps.com> The subject says it all -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications NeXTmail OK
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where can I buy NEXTIME? Date: 29 Jun 1994 19:48:30 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <2usj6e$j0@eps.com> The subject says it all -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications NeXTmail OK
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where to Purchase NEXTIME? Date: 29 Jun 1994 19:49:00 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <2usj7c$j1@eps.com> The subject says it all... -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications NeXTmail OK
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to set shell bkg color? Date: 29 Jun 1994 20:44:37 GMT Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA Message-ID: <2usmfl$op7@news.duke.edu> References: <Cs5u5L.HI@euler.hnv.icem.de> Juergen Sell writes > As far as I know you can't set colors in Termial.app. > Get Stuart.app from the archives. It's shareware and I seem to remember it > can do that and much more. In NS 3.3 later this year, Terminal does allow one to set colors for background and text. I saw it at Expo last week. So it's coming! Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: sign up for FORTRAN for NS/HP Date: 29 Jun 1994 19:52:36 GMT Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Message-ID: <2usje4$er0@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Hello, I have been in touch with people at NeXT, HP, and Absoft about the possibility of porting a Fortran compiler to the new HP PA-RISC release of NEXTSTEP. To make a long story short, I was told that Absoft would do this port if they thought there was a large enough market. I know this sounds pretty obvious, but it took a while to even get that far. My impression of "large enough" is something over 100 units, like perhaps somewhere around 200 units. I have no connection to any of these companies, except for currently having a NeXT computer on my desk and recently ordering some HP 712/80 workstations for our group, with the hope of running NS and Fortran on them. I am a federal employee working for the NIH. I don't know if this will help much, but I'm willing to collect information that could be sent to NeXT and Absoft to help convince them to go through with this port. If you'd like to be a part of this petition, please send me the following information: Name Address Phone Number E-mail Address Estimate of how many units your group might purchase I know that last one is a tough one, especially since I have no idea what the price will be or when it might be available. But try to make a guess. Please send this information to me at the address below. Thanks, Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: frank@glocke.robin.de (Frank Thomas) Subject: Re: TeX output offset *bug* Message-ID: <1994Jun28.193557.398@glocke.robin.de> Sender: frank@glocke.robin.de References: <2tpftq$5nh@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 19:35:57 GMT In article <2tpftq$5nh@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: > Edmund Ronald (eronald@cnam.cnam.fr) wrote: > : My latex output seems to be offset about 3/5 inch down the page, compared > : to what I get running xlatex on an HP UX system. Anyone seen this bug and > : its fix? I am using 3.2 black, NeXT laser printer, A4 paper. > > Check the file /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps. Remove the leading '*' before > the line '@ A4size 210mm 297mm' and insert a '*' at the beginning of the line > '@ letterSize 8.5in 11in' (it's documented in the header of config.ps, > too). This should help for the _print-out_. For the _preview_ you should > change the settings in TeXview's 'Info|Preferences' to A4 sheet size, > i.e. width: 8.263889, height: 11.694445 (inch) and 'Save preferences'. > > Does this help ? I think the best thing is to add \special{papersize=210mm,297mm} to your "a4.sty" this fixes printout and preview and should work for nearly every dvi to ps converter (NeXT's handles this of course). Bye Frank
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Current source of memory Message-ID: <Cs6DoB.28C@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <2uqjob$8vv@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 20:16:58 GMT In article <2uqjob$8vv@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: > Paul S. Sears writes > > > Anyone bought memory recently and got a good deal? > > > > I have seen 30pin 4M SIMMS for as low as $169 with lifetime warrenty. > > Yow! I bought these from Chip Merchant in July of 1992, before most > of you were born, for $96.50 a pop, COD with free shipping. Why is it > that NOTHING in my three-year-old '040 cube (except for the hard drive) > is replaceable today for what I paid for it new??? Regarding the price of memory, a DRAM factory blew up in Japan. -- personal opinions
From: nweaver@boojum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Current source of memory Date: 29 Jun 1994 23:27:25 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2ut00t$s84@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <2uqjob$8vv@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> <Cs6DoB.28C@txnews.amd.com> >Regarding the price of memory, a DRAM factory blew up in Japan. I believe it was a resin factory. Also, haven't there been more tariffs against imported DRAM in the past year or two? -- Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@orodruin.cs.berkeley.edu It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to set shell bkg color? Date: 30 Jun 1994 00:07:44 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA) Message-ID: <2ut2cg$kq3@news.iastate.edu> References: <Cs5u5L.HI@euler.hnv.icem.de> <2usmfl$op7@news.duke.edu> In article <2usmfl$op7@news.duke.edu>, Denise Blakeley <blake015@mc.duke.edu> wrote: >Juergen Sell writes >> As far as I know you can't set colors in Termial.app. >> Get Stuart.app from the archives. It's shareware and I seem to remember it >> can do that and much more. > >In NS 3.3 later this year, Terminal does allow one to set colors for >background and text. I saw it at Expo last week. So it's coming! This is surely better than Stuart.app, I've just got Stuart.app, but only reverse video is supported. Scott (Hess) did mention that setting foreground and background color will be supported in the future version... but when? Oh, is there any other new features in the Terminal.app in NS 3.3? Chris -- NeXTMail super welcomed!!| Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science <:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: sign up for FORTRAN for NS/HP Date: 30 Jun 1994 00:50:40 GMT Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University Message-ID: <ANDERSON.94Jun29205040@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> References: <2usje4$er0@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> In-reply-to: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov's message of 29 Jun 1994 19:52:36 GMT First off, this post has nothing to do with FORTRAN. Skip it if that's your main focus. What I'm interested in is the availability of LISP for NS/HP. After working hard for over a year as one of the main bitchers-and-moaners after Franz to get them to release an updated ACL for NS/motorola (an update I'd paid for....), I'm probably one of a tiny fraction of folk with a working commercial-grade lisp on my cube. But if I get a bright and shiny HP machine, is it back to square one? Remember, LISP was one of the things Jobs was sure everyone would want on their NeXT boxes, so it was bundled free once upon a time. A few people still agree.... --Steve Anderson <anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu>
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Half life of black hardware? Date: 30 Jun 1994 01:27:33 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <2ut725$f83@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I have a Mono NeXTStation purchased new in the fall of 91. I am tempted to add more memory (20MB to 32MB) and an external 1GB hard disk (the internal disk is 200MB and very cramped). QUESTION: Is it prudent to invest $1600 in this system? I am, in general, very happy with it. And I certainly cannot afford to replace it now. But for how long can I reasonably expect it to last? Forever? 10 years? Two? I see a number of posts reporting fading or otherwise malfunctioning monitors. Are these the original monitors sold from 1988 to 1990 (the ones that came without a built-in microphone at the front) or have people been having troubles with monochrome monitors sold after 1990? Are there other components that I can expect to give me trouble? If possible, I would like to keep this system up and running for a *very* long time, even if I buy something else down the road. But is this possible? If not, I would rather start saving for something new rather than investing in something old. As always, your information and counsel are much appreciated. Many thanks. --- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan
From: rick@axon.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Half life of black hardware? Date: 30 Jun 1994 02:40:08 GMT Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX Message-ID: <2utba8$6f0@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <2ut725$f83@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <2ut725$f83@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu writes: >I have a Mono NeXTStation purchased new in the fall of 91. I am >tempted to add more memory (20MB to 32MB) and an external 1GB hard >disk (the internal disk is 200MB and very cramped). > >QUESTION: Is it prudent to invest $1600 in this system? I am, in >general, very happy with it. And I certainly cannot afford to >replace it now. But for how long can I reasonably expect it to last? I have a Turbo Station I bought in spring 92, and it's still going strong without a single problem. My colleagues have cubes (from 0.8 days, and a couple from the Businessland fire sale) and stations older than that, and the only problems I can remember are a couple of bad old-style monitors, and maybe one bad floptical. We expect our machines to continue functioning at least a couple more years, and hope for much longer than that. Contrast that with my Epson NX (which I think is a nice Nextstep machine) that is less than a year old and has already had the power supply and mother board replaced (under warranty, thankfully). <deleted text> > >... If not, I would rather start saving for something new >rather than investing in something old. You'll be able to use a SCSI disk on almost any other computer you might buy, so that won't be a loss even if your slab should develop problems. Most likely you'd be able to recycle, trade, or sell the memory, so that wouldn't be a loss either. I'd say go for it. That extra 800 Megs of space will make you feel good for quite a while, and more memory always helps. I'll bet you can get what you want for less than $1600, too. Long live black hardware! >--- >John Devlin >Department of Philosophy >The University of Michigan -- Rick Gray, Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713) 798-3346 | Fax: (713) 799-8544 Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu | NeXTMail accepted
From: tfs@vampire.gmu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HD Problem - Is there a non-destructive surface test util for NeXT Date: 30 Jun 1994 02:59:35 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2utcen$g29@portal.gmu.edu> References: <2uclv1$1of@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gregory John Casamento writes |Hi, I own a '040 NeXT cube. I had the follwing message appear on my |CONSOLE window a few nights ago.. It hasn't happened since, but I |iam slightly concerned... | |target 2, MEDIA ERROR block # 52355H, Retry #1 | |It did this all the way up to retry 5, and then apparently suceeded in |doing what it had to do. What I need to know is.. is there a non-destructive |utility I can use to find and possibly map out marginal/bad sectors on the |disk?? I really do not want to have to re-build the entire hard disk (major |pain). If you find one let me know. (Other than reasb, that relativly useless program) I belive you are screwed basicly. Best Solution is probably to do backups, put the drive on a Sun, and resurface & remap it on that, and then init a new file system on your NeXT when it's done. NS just doesn't have anything to deal with this sort of problem. Tim
From: tfs@vampire.gmu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HD Problem - Is there a non-destructive surface test util for NeXT Date: 30 Jun 1994 02:59:51 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2utcf7$g2n@portal.gmu.edu> References: <2uclv1$1of@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gregory John Casamento writes |Hi, I own a '040 NeXT cube. I had the follwing message appear on my |CONSOLE window a few nights ago.. It hasn't happened since, but I |iam slightly concerned... | |target 2, MEDIA ERROR block # 52355H, Retry #1 | |It did this all the way up to retry 5, and then apparently suceeded in |doing what it had to do. What I need to know is.. is there a non-destructive |utility I can use to find and possibly map out marginal/bad sectors on the |disk?? I really do not want to have to re-build the entire hard disk (major |pain). If you find one let me know. (Other than reasb, that relativly useless program) I belive you are screwed basicly. Best Solution is probably to do backups, put the drive on a Sun, and resurface & remap it on that, and then init a new file system on your NeXT when it's done. NS just doesn't have anything to deal with this sort of problem. Tim
From: tfs@vampire.gmu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HD Problem - Is there a non-destructive surface test util for NeXT Date: 30 Jun 1994 03:00:04 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2utcfk$g3v@portal.gmu.edu> References: <2uclv1$1of@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gregory John Casamento writes |Hi, I own a '040 NeXT cube. I had the follwing message appear on my |CONSOLE window a few nights ago.. It hasn't happened since, but I |iam slightly concerned... | |target 2, MEDIA ERROR block # 52355H, Retry #1 | |It did this all the way up to retry 5, and then apparently suceeded in |doing what it had to do. What I need to know is.. is there a non-destructive |utility I can use to find and possibly map out marginal/bad sectors on the |disk?? I really do not want to have to re-build the entire hard disk (major |pain). If you find one let me know. (Other than reasb, that relativly useless program) I belive you are screwed basicly. Best Solution is probably to do backups, put the drive on a Sun, and resurface & remap it on that, and then init a new file system on your NeXT when it's done. NS just doesn't have anything to deal with this sort of problem. Tim
From: tfs@vampire.gmu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Eww! sorry bout that. Date: 30 Jun 1994 03:07:21 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2utct9$g8l@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was getting "Posting Failed" errors... Sorry bout the extras. Obviously NG got it wrong. Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: New Hardware up and Running, BenchMarks? Message-ID: <schwettCs6uxH.5Lt@netcom.com> Summary: Is this fast? Keywords: Intel Stealth64 Pentium Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 02:29:41 GMT Hi All! I've just got NeXTStep up and running on my new System... and I was wondering what sort of benchmarks are out there so I can get some hard numbers for comparison. The system is a 90mhz Pentium (Micronics Motherboard), PCI bus, 32 MB RAM, and a Diamond Stealth64 PCI Video Adapter with 4MB VRAM. Originally, it was an ATi Graphics Pro Turbo which is now sitting on the shelf next to me since the drivers are not available yet. I suspect that the bottleneck here is the Adaptec 1542CF, which is connected to a Fujitsu M2694 1gb SCSI-II drive. "DiskPerformance.app" gives me an index of about 1.0, which seems pretty poor. Any suggestions on benchmarks or possible PCI SCSI adapters? Will be happy to summarize... mark schwett@netcom.com
From: atai@vision.ucsd.edu (Andy Tai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: X window on 68k Next Date: 30 Jun 1994 04:41:30 GMT Organization: Computer Vision Lab, Department of ECE, UCSD Message-ID: <2utidq$9qm@deadmin.ucsd.edu> Is there anyway to run X window under NextStep 3.1 on the 68k hardware? MouseX crashes under 3.1. Any help is appreciated.
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to set shell bkg color? Date: 30 Jun 1994 04:09:24 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2utghk$1eo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <2usmfl$op7@news.duke.edu> In article <2usmfl$op7@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > In NS 3.3 later this year, Terminal does allow one to set colors for background > and text. I saw it at Expo last week. So it's coming! Oh good, now NEXTSTEP users can have the individual freedom to paint their screens with putrid colors everywhere just like Windoze. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: blake015@terra.CAC.Washington.EDU (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: Getting loginHook to work Date: 30 Jun 1994 05:09:03 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Message-ID: <2utk1f$b66@news.duke.edu> I'm having a problem trying to utilize a loginHook to play a sound when I login. I've looked at the FAQs and the NeXTAnswers regarding this but I'm still stuck. Here's what my /usr/local/bin/loginHook looks like: #!/bin/csh -f set NAME=`whoami` if (${NAME} == "denise") then source /denise/.loginHook else if (${NAME} == "root") then source /.loginHook endif The problem is that when I log in as denise and this script is run, whoami returns "root" so root's .loginHook is sourced instead of mine! How can this be? I've tried building in a "sleep" before the whoami to see if the delay is necessary for the Workspace Manager, but even 20 seconds makes no difference. I noticed that the console shows the following messages: opening /usr/adm/lastlog: Bad file number opening /etc/utmp: Bad file number opening /usr/adm/wtmp: Bad file number I thought /etc/utmp was used for "who am i" only, not "whoami", but perhaps I'm mistaken? Are these messages a problem? Thanks for any help... Denise Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: blake015@terra.CAC.Washington.EDU (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to set shell bkg color? Date: 30 Jun 1994 05:28:23 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Message-ID: <2utl5n$c50@news.duke.edu> References: <2usmfl$op7@news.duke.edu> <2utghk$1eo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Nathan Janette writes: > Oh good, now NEXTSTEP users can have the individual > freedom to paint their screens with putrid colors > everywhere just like Windoze. Yeah, for years I've been telling my colleagues that if you want to see some really awful color combinations, turn the color selection over to a programmer! :-) We computer weenies aren't known for our aesthetic sense, you know! I chuckle every time it happens that I help someone pick better colors and he/she looks at the new ones like I've performed magic. :-) Denise Blakeley (B.A. in Art, B.S., M.S. in Computer Science) Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kochhar@endor.harvard.edu (Sandeep Kochhar) Subject: Supra Fax Modem and Silent Answer --- Any luck? Message-ID: <Cs6rBD.KJ4@das.harvard.edu> Sender: kochhar@das.harvard.edu Organization: Harvard University Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 01:11:36 GMT hi! I'm using a Supra Fax Modem 14.4 V32 bis, etc. with my NextStation and with NXFax (from B&W) software and things work fine... However, I've only gotten the "Silent Answer" feature (which allows the modem and my answering machine to cooperate and share the same line for voice and faxes) of the Supra to work just ONCE out of several attempts... All other attempts get disconnected with handshaking problems... Question: has anyone had a high success rate with the Silent Answer feature? Did you have to do anything special? thanks. -- Sandeep Kochhar 248 Hampshire St. #2 email: kochhar@das.harvard.edu Cambridge, MA 02139 tel (voice/fax): (617) 876-2052
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64 Message-ID: <schwettCs78Hx.E1F@netcom.com> Summary: Hmm... is this fast enough? Keywords: benchmarks Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 07:22:44 GMT I ran NXBench on some new hardware and here are the results: 129790 dhrystones/s 82.45 VAX Mips 1.48 NXFactor (1180x864 32 bit color) Some clarification on the NXFactor score : does it take into account pixel depth, or is it independent of this? The failry low 1.48 result would lead me to believe that the hardware/software combo of the Stealth 64 is only 1.48 times faster than the NeXTStation Turbo that got 1.0, but the NeXT was running in a 2bit mode, whereas I ran in a 32 bit mode. If I could run the Stealth64 in a 2 bit mode, would I get something like 20+? Am I misinterpreting the benchmarks? The system is based on a Micronics motherboard with 90mhz pentium CPU, PCI bus, 32mb RAM, 256k cache, and so on... Are there anyo ther results for 90mhz pentiums out there? Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rene@prz.tu-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64 Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ) Message-ID: <1994Jun30.083323.11514@prz.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:33:23 GMT References: <schwettCs78Hx.E1F@netcom.com> Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware schwett@netcom.com wrote: : Some clarification on the NXFactor score : does it take into account pixel : depth, or is it independent of this? The failry low 1.48 result would lead : me to believe that the hardware/software combo of the Stealth 64 is only : 1.48 times faster than the NeXTStation Turbo that got 1.0, but the NeXT : was running in a 2bit mode, whereas I ran in a 32 bit mode. If I could run : the Stealth64 in a 2 bit mode, would I get something like 20+? 1.0 is the value for a non-Turbo NeXT. Rene' -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:/~rene Rene' Kulschewski
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Getting loginHook to work Date: 30 Jun 1994 14:16:22 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2uuk3m$2ho@rosie.next.com> References: <2utk1f$b66@news.duke.edu> In article <2utk1f$b66@news.duke.edu> blake015@terra.CAC.Washington.EDU (Denise Blakeley) writes: > #!/bin/csh -f > > set NAME=`whoami` > > if (${NAME} == "denise") then > source /denise/.loginHook > else if (${NAME} == "root") then > source /.loginHook > endif > > The problem is that when I log in as denise and this script is run, whoami > returns "root" so root's .loginHook is sourced instead of mine! How can > this be? From loginwindow(1) man page: -LoginHook progname provides a program for loginwindow to call before allowing a user to log in. This program, if specified, will be called after the user's name and password have been verified aginst the passwd database. The inten- tion of this hook is to allow system administrators to do logging of the user and necessary bookkeeping with the Unix databases such as wtmp if desired. By default, loginwindow does handle the utmp database, but not the other activities performed by the terminal oriented login program (for example, maintaining the wtmp database). The program is called with its first argument as the user name of the person logging in. If the hook program exits with return code 0, the user will be logged in; otherwise the login will be prevented. The LoginHook program should be specified as a full pathname. Also, it is not called when the default user (me) is logged in without being asked for a password. The intent of the loginhook is to allow administrative actions at login time. Therefor, it runs a root. But it's called with an argument of the username. So changing your script to something like this should work: #!/bin/csh -f if ($1 == "denise") then source /denise/.loginHook else if ($1 == "root") then source /.loginHook endif Joe Keenan NeXT Technical Support
From: Marty Frongillo Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: default shell on NS 3.2 Date: 30 Jun 1994 16:11:00 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <2uuqqk$ok3@transfer.stratus.com> I asked our network admin staff to change my default shell from csh to tcsh. They changed the password file to have the following (output from ypcat, slightly editted...) marty:...:...:...:<full-name>:<home-dir>:/bin/tcsh I then put a copy of tcsh in the /bin directory. From the workspace manager, I logged in and got an error saying that the default shell could not be found. I then put a symbolic link in /usr/bin; still the workspace manager was not able to find the shell. This forced me to have my default shell changed back to csh and to exec tcsh after I was logged in. Any ideas on why the workspace manager returns this error? Is there any work-around to the problem? -- Marty Frongillo (marty@sw.stratus.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: How to set shell bkg color? Message-ID: <1994Jun30.162822.11751@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <2usmfl$op7@news.duke.edu> <2utghk$1eo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:28:22 GMT In article <2utghk$1eo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: >Oh good, now NEXTSTEP users can have the individual >freedom to paint their screens with putrid colors >everywhere just like Windoze. Or, at least have the freedom of choosing something other than cathode ray tan, or squint driven blindness. White on black is better than black on white, but can be really bad on a Trinitron screen. Also, since I have a butt ugly PC case under my desk, instead of a sculptured black piece of art, I figure may as well give up on aesthetics entirely. - db -- I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: falke@iitmax.iit.edu (Falke Bruinsma) Subject: NS/I: Serial line problems Message-ID: <1994Jun30.154029.29340@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 15:40:29 GMT I recently installed NS/I on my computer and was delighted that it worked right off the bat. (Of course I payed close attention to the compatibility list before I purchase the various parts) But now that I try to hook up to the internet through my serial port I was bummed to find out that it didn't work. I have a hardwired line running from a terminal server (star master) to my PC. Using DOS I can use any communication program, hit break and connect to the star master. Now with NS/I I use Kermit, hit break but nothing happens. If I hit break a couple of times I get the prompt from the star master but that's it. I can't type anything else, other than the break signal. I'm wondering why? Why is it that I can't connect to the star master from NS/I? I have the following setup: 486dx2/66, adaptec 1542cf, diamond viper, 1.2 micropolis SCSI hd, mouse on com1, serial line on com2. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. otherwise I'm stuck with using windows to hook up to the net :( -Falke -- Falke Bruinsma | falke@iitmax.acc.iit.edu (unix) Illinois Institute of Technology | sysfalke@minna.acc.iit.edu (vax/vms) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Programming is like sex, one mistake and you spend a lifetime supporting it.
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64 Date: 30 Jun 1994 19:16:01 GMT Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa Message-ID: <2uv5lh$bsc@news.icaen.uiowa.edu> References: <schwettCs78Hx.E1F@netcom.com> <1994Jun30.083323.11514@prz.tu-berlin.de> rene@prz.tu-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) writes: >schwett@netcom.com wrote: >: Some clarification on the NXFactor score : does it take into account pixel >: depth, or is it independent of this? The failry low 1.48 result would lead >: me to believe that the hardware/software combo of the Stealth 64 is only >: 1.48 times faster than the NeXTStation Turbo that got 1.0, but the NeXT >: was running in a 2bit mode, whereas I ran in a 32 bit mode. If I could run >: the Stealth64 in a 2 bit mode, would I get something like 20+? >1.0 is the value for a non-Turbo NeXT. They don't compensate for bit depth, so you would see better scores if you weren't in 32 bit mode. I think my non-turbo colorstation (1152x832 or whatever it is, 16 bit color) got about 0.62 or so. Turbo colors come in at around 1, I believe, so you're about 50% faster than a turbocolor. What I really want to see is the numbers for an HP once the OS is ready to go. I wonder what a 735/125 with HCRX24-Z would get? (At a guess, I'd say maybe 7 or 8, of course that box would cost you $50K ;-) ) Since the 712 has no graphics acceleration and has to go through that color recovery hardware, I have to wonder how well it'll do, it may end up not being able to beat the highest end P5/90 systems. -- Doug Siebert | I have a proof that everything I have stated above dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu | is true, but this .sig is too small to contain it.
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.graphics From: cheryl@ctsx.celtech.com (Cheryl Snyder) Subject: NeXT to FrameMaker conversion... Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 19:20:25 GMT Organization: cts Message-ID: <1994Jun30.192025.19245@ctsx.celtech.com> We have a document that was produced in an application on NeXT that we have ported to Framemaker on HP/UX. The document and its pictures translate fine for printing, but the graphics need to be viewed online. They will not show up except as a grey box. Are there any public domain or shareware utilities that can read .eps format graphics files without the bitmaps? We have tried Frame, xv, and Canvas already. Or, are there any other workable solutions to this problem?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman) Subject: Re: HELP: Getting loginHook to work Message-ID: <1994Jun30.164111.1590@objectario.com> Sender: shayman@objectario.com Organization: Steve Hayman + Associates / NeXTSTEP Consulting / Toronto References: <2uuk3m$2ho@rosie.next.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:41:11 GMT In article <2uuk3m$2ho@rosie.next.com> Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) writes: > The intent of the loginhook is to allow administrative actions at login time. > Therefor, it runs a root. But it's called with an argument of the username. > So changing your script to something like this should work: > > #!/bin/csh -f > if ($1 == "denise") then > source /denise/.loginHook > else if ($1 == "root") then > source /.loginHook > endif Be careful here. You are letting root execute an arbitrary script belonging to a user. This opens up a major security can o'worms. It would be better to do something like #!/bin/sh /bin/su $1 -c "~$1/.loginHook" exit 0 which would execute the user's .loginHook, but running as that user rather than root. (Actually it wouldn't surprise me if there was something wrong with the above script too. This sort of thing can be tricky to make bulletproof.) Steve --- Steve Hayman shayman@Objectario.com Steve Hayman & Associates, Toronto, Ontario (416) 769-8995 NeXTSTEP Consulting
From: bisselt@edmund.gb.swissbank.com (Timothy Bissell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Connecting HP100LX and NeXT Date: 30 Jun 1994 12:13:13 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation Message-ID: <BISSELT.94Jun30131314@edmund.gb.swissbank.com> I have a NeXT workstation running NS 3.2 and have just bought a HP100LX, along with a Macintosh - HP100 connection cable made by HP. I am trying to transfer files to and fro using Kermit. On the HP, I am using Datacomm, on the NeXT, C-Kermit 5A(188), 23 Nov 92, NeXT If I set the transfer rates in the range 4800-38400, parity to even, byte size to 7 and stop bits to 2, I can run the NeXT kermit as a server, and receive files from the NeXT onto the HP, but cannot use send/receive ortransfer files from the HP to the NeXT. In addition, if I transfer executables to the HP, they grow in size, and cannot be executed. Is there some CR/LF bodging going on here? Has anyone out there solved these problems, and if so can they send me a .kermrc and details of the Datacomm settings I should use. In addition, has anyone tried running the connectivity pack software on SoftPC (which version?) on the NeXT? Thanks in advance, Tim -- Work: bisselt@gb.swissbank.com | +44 71 711 2984 | Ducati 750SS Home: tim@ursidae.demon.co.uk | +44 480 451 022 | DoD#174 -- tim -- Work: bisselt@gb.swissbank.com | +44 71 711 2984 | Ducati 750SS Home: tim@ursidae.demon.co.uk | +44 480 451 022 | DoD#174
From: douglas@delmar.ewl.uky.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64 Date: 30 Jun 94 17:00:38 Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <douglas.94Jun3017038@delmar.ewl.uky.edu> References: <schwettCs78Hx.E1F@netcom.com> <1994Jun30.083323.11514@prz.tu-berlin.de> <2uv5lh$bsc@news.icaen.uiowa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I have a 735/99 that I could run tests on if someone could send me the NXBench app. Also have access to a 712/60 if you want that info too. john.....
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Getting loginHook to work Date: 30 Jun 1994 20:59:56 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2uvboc$br2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2utk1f$b66@news.duke.edu> In Denise Blakeley <blake015@terra.CAC.Washington.EDU> writes: > > The problem is that when I log in as denise and this script is run, whoami > returns "root" so root's .loginHook is sourced instead of mine! How can > this be? I've a little experience with LoginHooks from when I wrote MOTD.app -- the problem I would see with your 'whoami' approach is that the LoginHook always runs as root as it's original intention was to add second level verifications, etc. *before* the user is logged in, in case you decide to reject them (via 'exit 1'). You can get the user name in question by looking at $1 (or argv[1]), I believe. It's not clear that just *anything* that you put in the sourced script will necessarily work and it will be executed as root, unless you change the UID based on argv[1], so default paths and capabilities may not be what you expect. - Christopher
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64 Date: 30 Jun 1994 21:27:35 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uvdc7$5bu@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <douglas.94Jun3017038@delmar.ewl.uky.edu> douglas@delmar.ewl.uky.edu writes: > I have a 735/99 that I could run tests on if someone could send > me the NXBench app. > > Also have access to a 712/60 if you want that info too. Seems to me that it might not be appropriate to publish benchmark results when you're running the beta version of the system release... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: default shell on NS 3.2 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:35:23 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Yi4nePK00iV345c1cy@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2uuqqk$ok3@transfer.stratus.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 30-Jun-94 default shell on NS 3.2 by Marty Frongillo@??? > I asked our network admin staff to change my default shell from csh to > tcsh. They changed the password file to have the following (output from > ypcat, slightly editted...) > > marty:...:...:...:<full-name>:<home-dir>:/bin/tcsh > > I then put a copy of tcsh in the /bin directory. > > From the workspace manager, I logged in and got an error saying that the > default shell could not be found. I then put a symbolic link in /usr/bin; > still the workspace manager was not able to find the shell. Yes. You need to have an entry in the file /etc/shells corresponding to the absolute path of tcsh (presumably /bin/tcsh) for the system to consider that to be a valid shell. This is for security reasons. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:40:36 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4i4njIq00iV305c3Vj@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2uv5lh$bsc@news.icaen.uiowa.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 30-Jun-94 Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ.. by Doug Siebert@icaen.uiowa > Since the 712 has no graphics acceleration and has to go through that color > recovery hardware, I have to wonder how well it'll do, it may end up not > being able to beat the highest end P5/90 systems. Don't worry about color recovery slowing down the graphics on an HP. The Artist chip used apparently isn't being driven nearly to capacity on a slow machine like the 712. :-) Check out this URL for a "whitepaper" (technical doc) on this from HP: http://www.hp.com/mhm/WhitePapers/Artist/Artist.html -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Oracle Technology briefing Message-ID: <Cs8BE3.KwH@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 21:22:50 GMT I missed the Oracle tech briefing on the first day of Expo. Did *anyone* go to this thing ? What's the scoop ? -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch). Date: 1 Jul 1994 00:52:42 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2uvibq$hg6@alf.uib.no> My original NeXT mouse just died (and I noticed how it is just about _impossible_ to use a NeXT without a mouse...shorting the switch manually everytime I needed a 'click') and I need either: a. a new NeXT mouse. b. a used NeXT mouse c. a microswitch (the factory one is: 1668RAE D2F-01, made by Omron, Japan) d. suggestions (maybe other third party mice will work?) I have an original cube which has been upgraded several times, and that includes the original keyboard (not ADB) and monitor series. For the moment I've configured Preferences to use the mouse as a right handed one so I can still use the other button, but I'd like to fix it before it dies completely. Please e-mail replies. Regards, --- -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64 Message-ID: <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com> Summary: Some more benchmarks resuls... Keywords: benchmark p54c pentium 90mhz Stealth NXFactor Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:46:41 GMT Since there seemed to be some interest, I've (re)posted the benchmark results for the following system: Micronics 90mhz P54C Motherboard, PCI Bus 32 Megabytes DRAM (256kSRAM) Diamond Stealth 64PCI w/4MB VRAM Adaptec 1542CF Fujitsu M2694ESA SCSI-II HD (1GB) *NXBench* Dhrystones : 132,158 VAX MIPS : 83.9 NXFactor : Color Depth 8bit 16bit 32 bit (All tests at 1152x864) NXFactor 1.98065 1.253541 1.483836 line 1.58195 0.99211 1.04784 arc/bezier 1.58476 0.97030 1.00300 fill 1.63166 0.79493 0.77730 transform 3.41136 2.52810 3.41136 composite 1.34709 0.78228 0.67299 userpath 3.42304 2.62088 3.05481 text 1.82022 0.85461 1.46252 window 1.04041 0.48509 0.44083 (If anybody would care to enlighten us about the discrepancies in the scores, I'd be very happy... why should the 16 bit scores be worse than 32 bit? Is this perhaps because the 32 bit driver is specifically for 4MB VRAM cards and can thus use that extra VRAM for buffering or something, whereas the 16 bit driver is for use with 2MB cards also? Just a wild guess...) *BYTE Benchmarks* /LocalApps/Benchmarks/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base /tmp/3850.dat INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 16719.5 6.2 Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 14411.0 5.1 Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 14414.0 5.1 C Compiler Test 24.1 67.5 2.8 Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 132474.0 5.5 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 91.3 3.9 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 828.0 1.6 File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 51367.0 2.8 File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 907.0 1.5 Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 3850.3 3.3 Process Creation Test 34.0 104.3 3.1 Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 2052.6 6.3 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 12.6 3.3 ========= SUM of 13 items 50.5 AVERAGE 3.9 Obviously, the disk performance is the weak point here. This is more or less what I expected, since I am not too thrilled about the Adaptec 1542CF controller. Any suggestions on a good PCI SCSI controller for NeXTStep would be appreciated! Thanks... Mark Schwettmann schwett@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Half life of black hardware? Message-ID: <2uvtvk$of@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Date: 1 Jul 1994 02:11:00 GMT References: <2ut725$f83@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes: >I have a Mono NeXTStation purchased new in the fall of 91. I am >tempted to add more memory (20MB to 32MB) and an external 1GB hard >disk (the internal disk is 200MB and very cramped). >QUESTION: Is it prudent to invest $1600 in this system? I am, in Memory: If it's a Turbo, get 16 MB SIMMS and you will not go wrong. The bad news is that if it's not (doesn't look like it), you probably won't be able to use those 4 MB SIMMS you are buying in your next computer. Disk: Don't get a 1 GB disk - get a 2 GB disk! $/Mbyte, they're a much better deal. Get a SCSI-2 disk (almost all 2 GB disks are) and you will have no problem using it on your next machine, I would bet. There you go, take away most of the risk. It's not like you're buying components that won't work in your next NEXTSTEP-capable hardware, or that will fuse out once you put them in your machine. It's not like replacing the fuel pump on a 1978 Duster. :-) >general, very happy with it. And I certainly cannot afford to >replace it now. But for how long can I reasonably expect it to last? I expect to use my black hardware another 3 years. It does everything I want it to very admirably. New release of the OS support is only promised through the end of next year, though. (Hey, 3.2 works just fine, thanks) >Forever? 10 years? Two? I see a number of posts reporting fading >or otherwise malfunctioning monitors. Are these the original >monitors sold from 1988 to 1990 (the ones that came without a >built-in microphone at the front) or have people been having troubles >with monochrome monitors sold after 1990? Are there other components >that I can expect to give me trouble? If your machine is 3 years old and you haven't had problems, you probably won't. The first 2000 or so N4000A's sold had a defect (every single one we got in our first shipment in '91 had it!), but they went bad within about 6 months to a year. -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64 Date: 1 Jul 1994 01:57:21 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uvt61INNbqq@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com> Keywords: benchmark p54c pentium 90mhz Stealth NXFactor In article <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com>, schwett@netcom.com writes: |> Since there seemed to be some interest, I've (re)posted the |> benchmark results for the following system: [stuff deleted] |> Color Depth 8bit 16bit 32 bit |> (All tests at 1152x864) |> NXFactor 1.98065 1.253541 1.483836 |> |> (If anybody would care to enlighten us about the discrepancies in the |> scores, |> I'd be very happy... why should the 16 bit scores be worse than 32 bit? |> Is |> this perhaps because the 32 bit driver is specifically for 4MB VRAM cards |> and |> can thus use that extra VRAM for buffering or something, whereas the 16 bit |> driver is for use with 2MB cards also? Just a wild guess...) There's been some related discussion in the thread about the Canon object. station in c.s.n.hardware. I'd guess that it's mainly alignment overhead that drags down the performance at the 16-bit depth. NextStep uses a 4444 (RGBAlpha) internal representation at 16 bits. PC display adapters generally use a 555 representation. Conversion between these formats requires quite a bit of shifting and bit-fiddling on the part of the CPU. NextStep's 8888 internal representation for 32-bit color is quite similar to the display card's 888 format - although pixel-packing might have to be tweaked, at least the CPU doesn't have to mess with the individual color channels... |> Mark Schwettmann |> schwett@netcom.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard... H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64 In-Reply-To: schwett@netcom.com's message of Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:46:41 GMT To: schwett@netcom.com Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun30225356@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 02:53:56 GMT In article <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com writes: Here a few comparison values for a 712/60 running HP/UX (not selected -- these are all I have). INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 16719.5 6.2 Gecko: 4.4 Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 132474.0 5.5 Gecko: 2.3 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 91.3 3.9 Gecko: 4.3 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 828.0 1.6 Gecko:15.3 Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 3850.3 3.3 Gecko: 1.0 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 12.6 3.3 Gecko: 3.2 Now imagine what it would be like if you had a good disk drive and controller. Carl Edman
From: root@Carovigno.student.rose-hulman.edu (Dauphin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: default shell on NS 3.2 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 1 Jul 1994 00:21:28 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2uvni8$efn@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <2uuqqk$ok3@transfer.stratus.com> [ stuff about putting tcsh in /bin deleted ] Also try putting it in /etc/shells. I believe the WorkSpace manager checks that file also. -- Christopher Seawood mgrcls@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: jbm@aiinet.com (John Milton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Why does NS require so much Memory? Date: 1 Jul 1994 04:43:02 GMT Organization: Applied Innovation, Inc. Message-ID: <2v06sm$csj@aisun.aiinet.com> References: <2su98t$4ip@rosie.next.com> Keywords: swapfile sparse In article <2su98t$4ip@rosie.next.com> avie@next.com (Avadis Tevanian) writes: >In article <1994Jun5.221433.24748@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca >(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: >> Oh well... can someone more informed than me >> *please* take up this discussion, because I don't have >> enough knowledge on this to come to the correct conclusion. > >Here's the facts on how swapfiles work: [facts deleted] Very cool, thanks, I know NeXT is loath to do anything to the file system, but the coolest solution would be to add a special fcntl() to the file system code for deallocating sections of a file, thus making the file sparse. I know sparse files are supported by the NeXT file system, so the important part is already there. The implementation of this fcntl() seems fairly straight forward: The caller calls fcntl() with the file descriptor of the swapfile, a command (NeXT has already reserved some bits for other things) and a struct with an offset and a length to be deallocated (sparsinated). The file system code tracks down the allocation blocks involved, puts the blocks onto the free list and zeros out the block numbers in the file's allocation. There are obvious complications having to do with compression, but these are not insurmountable. John -- John Bly Milton IV jbm@aiinet.com (614) h:252-8544, w:798-2000x2162 NeXTmail OK AMPR:N8KSN[44.70.0.52] Don't FLAME, inform!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rouand@tnt.oleane.com (Jean-Michel Rouand) Subject: Re: dialup on Intel NeXT Message-ID: <1994Jun23.161947.21490@tnt.oleane.com> Sender: rouand@tnt.oleane.com Organization: Terra Nova Techonologies (France) References: <Crro9s.E5B@jlc.mv.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:19:47 GMT In article <Crro9s.E5B@jlc.mv.com> jason@jlc.mv.com (Jason T. Nelson) writes: .... > in the documentation, but when I connect, I get this: > What are you using to do the connection ? (cu, tip ...) I had the same problem using "cu" but it was working using "tip". Jean Michel ROUAND
From: p9026363@deneb.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Harald Brun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Code for "Record Macro", "Execute Macro" Date: 1 Jul 1994 11:35:12 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2v0v1g$kj1@email.tuwien.ac.at> Keywords: Macro Hi girls and boys ! I have to program the window-commands "Record Macro" and "Execute Macro". Is there anybody, who knows existing code or knows how to get informations about the problem ? Please answer !!
From: colem001@lego.mc.duke.edu (Patricia Coleman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Images for Fourth of July Date: 1 Jul 1994 13:51:01 GMT Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA Message-ID: <2v1705$gns@news.duke.edu> Does anyone have any good images of flags or fireworks that I can use for the Fourth of July? Thanks. -- Trisha
From: hvillega@roxette (Hugo Villegas Roji) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printers EtherTalk=NeXTSTEP? Date: 1 Jul 1994 13:44:44 GMT Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey Message-ID: <2v16kc$1pvd@campus.mty.itesm.mx> Hi! I istalled NeXTSTEP 3.2 in our server and we found the PrintManager does not have the possibility to conect and Agfa Accuset imagesetter via Ethernet with apple share protocols. With 3.0 it was working well but I can't install 3.0 again. Anybody out there knows how can I conect this imagesetter to our NeXT computers net? I'll apreciate any help Thank you in advance -- .................................................................. . Hugo Ernesto Villegas Roji . . Nexit Diseno Grafico . . . . Ricardo Margain Zozaya 210-5 / CP 66267 . . Valle de Santa Engracia / Garza Garcia / Nuevo Leon / Mexico . . tels. 52 (8) 335 19 14 / 335 19 15 / 335 08 87 / 356 30 53 fax . ..................................................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bertin@euler.cpi.com(Scott J. Bertin) Subject: Preserving a file's group ID Message-ID: <1994Jul1.142805.17640@alw.nih.gov> Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institutes of Health Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 14:28:05 GMT I belong to several groups at work, one for each project I'm working on. When I edit and save a file using Edit.app (NS 3.0), the group ID is changed to my default group. Is there any way to get Edit to preserve the group ID of the file? Also, does NS have an equivalent to the Sun's newgrp command to change the group ID for the current shell? Thank You, Scott J. Bertin bertin@euler.cpi.com
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: You know who you are but I don't Date: 1 Jul 1994 15:54:10 GMT Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA Message-ID: <2v1e72$l4b@news.duke.edu> At one point during the Stone Design rave party I found myself dancing with three men at once. :-) I knew two of them, but I never got to speak to the third. If you're him, please e-mail me. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 1 Jul 1994 09:55:56 -0600 Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center Message-ID: <2v1eac$i58@u.cc.utah.edu> References: <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com wrote: : Since there seemed to be some interest, I've (re)posted the : benchmark results for the following system: : Micronics 90mhz P54C Motherboard, PCI Bus : 32 Megabytes DRAM (256kSRAM) : Diamond Stealth 64PCI w/4MB VRAM : Adaptec 1542CF : Fujitsu M2694ESA SCSI-II HD (1GB) <benchmarks deleted> : controller. Any suggestions on a good PCI SCSI controller for NeXTStep : would be appreciated! : Thanks... : Mark Schwettmann : schwett@netcom.com ASUS SC200 uses the NCR53C810, and is rumored to be compatible with the Talus driver. I will have one to test RSN, and will report back. Incidentally, the NCR53C810 is an inexpensive SCSI solution, with excellent performance. If you can, use this--or get the next generation, the NCR 53C825, SCSI-2 fast + wide, which Talus should support RSN. .........................kris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) Subject: New info on the 68060 Message-ID: <Cs9rnM.DHM@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: 68060, Motorola Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: University of California, Davis Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 16:11:46 GMT I thought some in the NeXT newsgroups might be interested in this post on the 68060 I found. I think the diagram at the end is screwd up; sorry. Todd ----------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <1994Jun30.161502.1437738@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy From: Andrew_English@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com ******************************************************************** MOTOROLA PLANS TO SAMPLE THE 68060 NEXT QUARTER Computergram International Motorola Inc finally launched the long-promised 68060 follow on to the 68040, claiming that it matches the performance of the Intel Corp Pentium at less than half the price - it costs $263 at 50MHz when you order 10,000 or more and will sample next month. It is also claimed to deliver twice the performance of the 68040 at the same clock speed, the extra speed being achieved by use of a superscalar design with dual four-stage integer pipelines. That means that the chip has two complete integer arithmetic-logic units side by side, with the instruction stream being split into two and the two halves being executed in parallel. The part is claimed to deliver 100 MIPS peak at 50MHz - a figure arrived at by simple arithmetic; it is a peak performance because at times, one instruction stream will be halted while it waits for an answer it needs to come out of the other side. It includes 8Kb instruction cache, 8Kb data cache and 256-entry branch cache. It comes in 50MHz and 66MHz versions runs off a 3.3V power supply where the 68040 requires 5V, and with the 68000 family out of favour as a CPU these days, it is aimed primarily at embedded applications that require high-speed computation, input-output and data movement performance, such as communications and graphics-oriented applications - high-speed printing, image processing and real-time simulation. There are also cheaper 68LC060 and 68EC060 variants of the new part, which omit the memory manager, and both the memory manager and the floating point unit; they cost $169 and $150 respectively for 10,000-up. ******************************************************************** _The_Motorola_Developer's_Newsletter_ ESC Special Edition, Volume 2, Issue 2. ISI's S68060-1-A Provides Seamless, Inexpensive Data Migration to 68060 Processors By: Luke Chang, EE Interconnect Systems, Inc. As many users of Motorola's 68040 processors contemplate transitioning their designs to the new 68060, they seek a seamless migration path that avoids painful investments in new hardware. Interconnect Systems Inc. (ISI), of Simi Valley, California, has developed a fast, inexpensive upgrade path with its S68060-1-A upgrade module. This module supports a broad range of applications and markets ranging from system upgrades in the embedded systems market, to microprocessor upgrades in the personal computer market. ISI designed the upgrade in the form of a "smart" PGA socket which contains the voltage regulator, logic conversion, and optional clock-doubling circuitry needed to accomplish the seamless migration. The 68060 is the latest superscalar 32-bit microprocessor in the 68000 Family. It has two ALU pipelines, dual on-chip cache, and an integral FPU. Initially, it will clock at 50 MHz, and requires a 3.3V power supply versus the 5V supply on the 68040. The 68060 has several features which make designing an upgrade module possible. First, the 68060, with a 223 pin (18x18 matrix) Pin Grid Array (PGA) footprint is a "super socket" version of the 179 pin (18x18 matrix) used for the 68040. Most of the signal, power, and ground pins have the same location on the 68060 as are found on the 68040. Second, both chips have the same 32-bit data bus. This means that bus size conversion through external logic and associated circuitry are not necessary. Despite the similarities between the 68060 and the 68040, there are obviously some conversion problems which require external circuitry. As noted, the 68060 runs at 3.3V versus the 68040's 5V. The upgrade module provides a solution to this problem by using a voltage regulator to convert 5V power from the existing 68040 chip attach site on the system circuit board to the 3.3V power needed by the 68060. Another problem is timing. The 68060 will be available at either 50 MHz or 66 MHz, twice the speed of relevant 68040 processors. There are two solutions to this timing problem depending on the actual system in which the upgrade module is interfaced. The first, and simpler, option is to use the MC88916 Phase Locked Loop chip found in many 68040-based systems. The design of the MC88916 makes it possible to get a clock-doubled signal from this chip and feed it to the 68060. There are, however, disadvantages to this solution. The maximum frequency obtained is limited to 66 MHz by the 88916. When faster versions of the 68060 are available, this solution will not work. In addition, the 88916 is dependent on the RESET function on the 68040. This means some external logic is required to upgrade to the 68060. An alternative solution to the timing problem is to use an MC88915 Phase Locked Loop clock chip. The 88915 can run at very high speeds, up to 133 MHz, and is not dependent on the 68040 RESET pin. The downside to this solution is high price--the 88915 is a relatively expensive chip. And, in 68040 systems which already have the 88916, the 88915 will not be utilized. The 68060 upgrade module which ISI has built, P/N S68060-1-A, is designed to work with either of the timing solutions outlined. If the 88915-based solution is employed, ISI's module is easily modified by disconnecting a trace on one of the circuit boards. Additional components are included in the module with this version. The 68060 also accesses some signals from the bus at different times than the 68040 microprocessor due to the timing of the skew clock. Some signals are triggered at the rising edge rather than the falling edge, and the 68060 does not support the bus snooping mode of the 68040. Therefore, the 68060 upgrade module has a third "sub-circuit" containing a Programmable Logic Array (PAL) chip to solve timing problems. Mechanically, the S68060-1-A upgrade module consists of two stacked PGA sockets which are fixed in place with two levels of interconnect circuitry and components nested in the sockets. The module is identical in size to the 68040 and 68060 PGA package in the horizontal (x,y) dimensions, with a stack height of approximately .300". The top of the module is a Low Insertion Force (LIF) PGA socket which accepts the 68060 processor. The bottom of the module is an array of PGA pins which match the footprint of the 68040. These pins can be soldered directly into the 68040 system board or inserted into a socket on this board. The S68060-1-A upgrade module is designed for a wide range of applications, from system characterization and test, and system upgrade in the embedded market, to microprocessors in the personal computer market. In all cases, the main purpose of the product is to make a "seamless" transition from the 68040 to the 68060. _The_Motorola_Developer's_Newsletter_ is published quarterly by the High Performance Microprocessor Division of Motorola. If you have comments or questions concerning this newsletter, or if you need to make an address change or addition, FAX us at (512) 891-2943 or write to us at the following addresses: _The_Developer's_Newsletter_ 6501 West William Cannon Drive MD OE310 Austin, Texas 78735-8598 For article submissions please contact: Fred Stotz (512) 891-2668 or Bonie Quintanilla at Capital Relations, phone: 805-494-0830, FAX: 805-494-0780 Company and product names that appear in this publication are for identification purposes and should be considered registered trademarks of their respective owners. Motorola and the (M) are registered trademarks of Motorola. Although every attempt is made to ensure the accuracy of this publications's contents, Motorola and the authors assume no responsibility or liability for any action caused directly or indirectly by information contained in this publication. from 6 8 0 6 0 side view: ================================== (top interconnect) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||<-- pins ================================== (bottom |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| interconnect) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||<-- pins To 6 8 0 4 0 socket on motherboard top view: _____________________________ | | A, C both have | p i n h o l e s | "227 6V" w/ | | their top | __________________ | portion white | | === ____ === | | | | |A| | | |C| | | B looks like a | | |_| | B | |_| | | DIP switch w/ | | ___|____|___ | | 4 switches | | | D | | | | | | | |____________| | | D is an IC | |__________________| | | | Smaller surface- | | mounted stuff | | also appear. |________________________________| ********************************************************************
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Oracle Technology briefing Date: 1 Jul 1994 16:06:57 GMT Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2v1ev1$mvd@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <Cs8BE3.KwH@txnews.amd.com> In article <Cs8BE3.KwH@txnews.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes: > I missed the Oracle tech briefing on the first day of Expo. Did *anyone* go to > this thing ? What's the scoop ? > It had been cancelled. Why? - Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim F. Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270 Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064 NeXTmail ok!
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where to Buy DayDream Box? Date: 1 Jul 1994 18:01:40 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2v1lm4$fqr@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, Where is the DayDream Box sold which turns a NeXT machine into a Macintosh? And how much? Sorry the question has probably been answered before but the internet is the only source of NeXT information these days. Thanks. -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley NeXTmail/email : tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu DO NOT REPLY TO THIS SLIP ACCOUNT!
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: STB Pegasus driver Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:51:13 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2v1s3h$rti@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> What is going on with the STB Pegasus driver for NEXTSTEP? I bought an STB Pegasus video board SEPTEMBER 1993 for NEXTSTEP on my Intel system. I was assured by STB technical support that they had already given NeXT some evaluation boards and that NeXT should have a driver available very soon - by the end of September. At the end of September, no driver, but a new Hardware Compatibility Guide that said Q4 93. At the end of December '93, no driver, and the 3.2 guide says Q1 94. This was repeated AGAIN to say Q2 94 at the end of March. Now, _10 MONTHS LATER_, At NEXTSTEP EXPO, I spoke to Bob Lawton personally about this who said that they should have a BETA driver available "within the next few weeks". He then went on to say, very arrogantly, that I should just keep checking the ftp site at NeXT every day. Pardon me, but just who does he think he is talking to a customer in this manner? What about all the lost time where we simply couldn't use the board for 1600x1200 grayscale for our research project? What about the money paid for a card with 4 MB VRAM when 2 MB are unused? It's obvious that NeXT really doesn't have any care about meeting their deadlines or providing any quality drivers. As far as I know, the newest Hardware Compatibility Guide says Q3 94. At this point, I don't want an e-mailed apology from Bob Lawton. I don't want a phone call apology from Steve Jobs. I just want next to RELEASE THE FUCKING DRIVER! NeXT needs to understand that they have a responsibility to their customers. People have to make purchasing decisions based on what information they have, and we need that information to be reliable. If NeXT cannot provide quality drivers for Intel hardware, then they should let 3rd parties provide them. If NeXT really isn't concerned with its customers, then they should get out of the business. Varun Mitroo, MD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michael@mcnabb.com (Michael McNabb) Subject: Re: Tab Stops, Pages, and You Message-ID: <1994Jun29.212859.14358@mcnabb.com> Sender: michael@mcnabb.com References: <Cs4LnH.5oC@nvc.cc.ca.us> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 21:28:59 GMT In article <Cs4LnH.5oC@nvc.cc.ca.us> robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us (Robert C. Doss) writes: > > How do I set the Tab Stops or bring up the Ruler in Pages? I have > poured through the manual, looked at every menu choice, and typed > Command+r for the ruler and could not find any clues as to how I can > get these features to work in Pages. > No such animals in the current Pages. The idea is (apparently) that these decisions are apparently made on your behalf by the Design Model designers, and they know MORE ... than you do! The demo person at Expo indicated there may be tabs in a later release.
From: nextman01@aol.com (NeXTMan01) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT for PowerMac Swap (better deals) Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:11:01 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2v27q5$iqf@search01.news.aol.com> If you are in or can get to Washington DC Why not get up to speed on the latest technology Trade::: Turbo Mono NeXT 16/250 17" Mon, Mouse & Keys For::: Color Mac Centris 610 4/230 w/ethernet, 14" Color Monitor Extended Keys & Mouse Trade::: Turbo Color NeXTstation 16/250 17" Mon, Mouse & Keys For::: PowerMac 6100 8/160, 17" Color Monitor, Extended Keys & Mouse Trade::: Turbo Dimension system 16/32/400 17" Mon, Mouse & Keys For::: PowerMac 6100AV 16/500 17" Color Mon, Mouse & Keys Non Turbo Color NeXTStations & Turbo Cubes will be considered if they have something extra in the way of configuration or peripherals. Sorry NO 25mhz Mono stations or Cubes (030 or 040) considered PowerMACs are like new (1mth old) and come with following software installed ClarisWorks, Photoshop, Lots of Games and more installed (THE NEXT MACHINES MUST BE IN PRISTINE CONDITION) Email or Call 202-438-2134 Unfortunately Non local (Outside Washington DC) trades are very difficult to do since there is no way for both parties to inspect the merchandise. For the moment we can only do Local trades. If you can get your system to Washington and pick up the Mac then you have a deal.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Trouble w/NSI 3.2 and Logitech Bus Mouse Message-ID: <1994Jul1.170744.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 01:07:44 GMT Background: ---------- We have a Tangent 486 running NSI 3.2, EISA motherboard, etc. The system _has_ been using a Microsoft Serial Mouse. We need to use some X-windows applications, so we have installed co-eXist, which works fine. However, co-eXist is unable to emulate the 3rd (middle) mouse button on serial mice. So, we bought a Logitech Bus Mouse, Model #5160, which is supported on NSI and which others on the net kindly informed me just plug and play. I installed the new mouse card and mouse, put JMP1 to IRQ 5 as described in NeXT Answers 1360, rebooted, and the o/s indicates that it sees a "PS2Mouse". Is that correct? I sort of thought it was OK, but... Problem: ------- The system boots with no errors. A user can login. The mouse DOESN'T MOVE! :-( I have to use cmd-keys to get logged out, and the NeXT version of the 3-finger salute in order to shut the system down cleanly. OTOH, if I boot DOS/Windoze, the mouse works just fine, thank you. So what am I missing? Is there some re-configuration needed to tell NSI that we no longer have a serial mouse? Any ideas??? Frustratedly, Ken -- Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98 | DECnet: 45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX) Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: (415) 926-2924 FAX: (415) 926-4335 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Trouble w/NSI 3.2 and Logitech Bus Mouse Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 2 Jul 1994 00:42:29 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <2v2d5l$llm@network.ucsd.edu> References: <1994Jul1.170744.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu wrote: : Problem: : ------- : The system boots with no errors. A user can login. The mouse : DOESN'T MOVE! :-( I have to use cmd-keys to get logged out, and the : NeXT version of the 3-finger salute in order to shut the system down : cleanly. : So what am I missing? Is there some re-configuration needed to : tell NSI that we no longer have a serial mouse? Any ideas??? You might try looking at NextAnswer 1594. : Frustratedly, Ken -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: camou@csid.gmeds.com (Mario Camou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Connecting HP100LX and NeXT Date: 1 Jul 1994 18:46:33 -0400 Organization: EDS Corporation Message-ID: <2v26c9$h2h@pascal.csid.gmeds.com> References: <BISSELT.94Jun30131314@edmund.gb.swissbank.com> bisselt@edmund.gb.swissbank.com (Timothy Bissell) writes: : On the HP, I am using Datacomm, : on the NeXT, C-Kermit 5A(188), 23 Nov 92, NeXT : : In addition, if I transfer executables to the HP, they grow : in size, and cannot be executed. Is there some CR/LF bodging : going on here? Have you set the file type to binary on the NeXT? For C-Kermit, type the following (or put it in your .kermrc): set file type binary (abbreviated as set fi t b) Hope this helps, -- Mario Camou / EDS Mexico Client-Server Integration Team MS-DOS is a bug. MS-Windows is a bug with a Graphical User Interface. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My opinions are only mine, mine, MINE!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tisu@quads.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue) Subject: Re: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Message-ID: <1994Jul2.020149.7994@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: Plaster Cramp Press References: <2unn8i$96q@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2us9ff$t8@cronkite.central.sun.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 02:01:49 GMT In article <2us9ff$t8@cronkite.central.sun.com>, Conrad Geiger Sunsoft <cgeiger@davis.Central.Sun.COM> wrote: >Conrad Geiger >SunSoft So it's true what they say about NeXT and Sun having swapped workforces! (Maybe this is old news to everyone but me....) -- == Seth Tisue (s-tisue@anl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: Wanted: Screen Capture of NeXT desktop Message-ID: <1994Jul6.193121.8759@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <2vefiu$flg@paris.alpha.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 19:31:21 GMT In article <2vefiu$flg@paris.alpha.net> sjentsch@paris.alpha.net (Scott Jentsch) writes: > > Thanks in advance, I look forward to seeing what a superior interface > looks like. I use OS/2 now, and I can't imagine going back to Windows' > Program Manager! Neither can Microsoft. -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!isar.de!muaddib!mgoedel From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: NeXTLaser problems Message-ID: <CsK3v2.7p@muaddib.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Reply-To: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 06:11:25 GMT Lines: 21 Hello world, after printing a couple of documents, my NeXTlaser starts printing white or black pages and doesn't stop printing until I unplock the powercord. The console-window gives the following message to me np0: Timeout waiting for Print Complete Jul 6 22:52:13 muaddib WindowServer[159]: IPCFlushOutput: failed to flush output for stream 0x2ece78. So I tried to reboot my next-box but the problem is still alive. Even the process for printing cannot be killed. Need advice - Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- Michael Maximilian Goedel email_____________________________ Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de 81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!netmbx.de!unlisys!uriela.in-berlin.de!kurt!root From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Message-ID: <1994Jul6.175208.3733@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: root@kurt.in-berlin.de (Operator) Reply-To: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 17:52:08 GMT Lines: 12 Hello, under 3.2 you can't remove hppa binary with lipo. Is there a simple possibility to remove ONLY hppa binary without removing m68k and intel? Thanx Gerald -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 puplic key available Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!trane.uninett.no!due.uninett.no!usenet From: thor@sushi.uib.no Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: WANTED: info on todays NeXTSTEP platforms Date: 6 Jul 1994 23:50:31 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vfg07$7l2@due.uninett.no> Reply-To: edmtl@edb.uib.no NNTP-Posting-Host: sushi.uib.no Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:10427 comp.sys.next.misc:14075 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17421 Hi. It's been a while since I followed up on NeXTSTEPS current hardware platform offerings and associated software compatibilty. I checked the FAQa dn NeXTs ftp sever without finding much except Intel info. Could someone with a summary/opinion e-mail me the currently available platforms (especially HP, DEC and SUN if possible), the advantages and disadvantages of each, and how much if any of the NeXT apps will run without major difficulties. As a reference, I am currently using (happily) a 040 Cube with 16MB core and 1GB disk, CD-ROM, NeXTPrinter and ZyXEL fax/modem (SLIP :-) I use mostly Frame, Diagram2, Dataphile, Virtuoso, Stuart, etc. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..." University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.no$B;P(J $B7H(J  Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!bigboote.WPI.EDU!bigwpi.WPI.EDU!nether From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Edit & Librarian losing TIFF files in .rtfd's Date: 7 Jul 1994 12:29:01 GMT Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Lines: 12 Message-ID: <2vgsed$9c@bigboote.WPI.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu Hello all, I was hoping someone could help me. Whenever I bring up a .rtfd document up in either Edit or Librarian, the generic next icon comes up instead of the TIFF. This is baffling me, help would be much appreciated. Thanks, joel belog P.S. Does anyone know where the file NA.compressed can be found on Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!alfred.acs.uwlax.edu!usenet From: olan@nextflight.uwlax.edu (Michael J. Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: modem trouble Date: 7 Jul 1994 02:01:40 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Lines: 24 Message-ID: <2vfnm4$5hc@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextflight.csfac.uwlax.edu Keywords: modem I got a ZOOM VFX 14.4 V.32 fax modem, but haven't been able to get it to work with my Nextstation. Problem seems to be in the cable. The MAC cable I bought allows Next to talk to modem, sort of... So I made a cable that fits the specs in Next documentation, but the modem doesn't do anything now. When using tip, I either the message "Cannot synchronize with hayes..." when trying to dial out. I can connect to the modem but that's all. I made a cable that fits the specs in Next documentation, but nothing happens when I use this one. Any help and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. --- Michael Olan Computer Science Dept. University of Wisconsin - La Crosse La Crosse, WI 54601 U.S.A. Ph: 608-788-2069 FAX: 608-785-8221 Email: olan@csfac.uwlax.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!att-out!nntpa!not-for-mail From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: NeXTSTEP and WIN on the same PC? Message-ID: <CsKp4p.5H4@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: poster Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: hogpf.ho.att.com Organization: AT&T Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:50:48 GMT Lines: 16 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:11512 comp.sys.next.misc:14078 folks, please bear with me if this is a rather ridiculous question. i've just encountered the NeXT world, and would love to continue exploring it. I currently have a 486, 33MegaHertz, 32 RAM, 510 hard drive, and am running the latest version of WINDOWS. can i load NeXTSTEP on the PC and then at bootup, choose to go either into WIN or NeXTSTEP? if so, how difficult is this to do? thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news.duke.edu!usenet From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (MORE) Date: 7 Jul 1994 14:26:33 GMT Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA Lines: 20 Message-ID: <2vh3ap$s36@news.duke.edu> References: <2v1e72$l4b@news.duke.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: terra.mc.duke.edu The Mystery Man hasn't surfaced yet, so I'm going to assume that my original posting didn't provide sufficient information for him to recognize himself. So here's some more. He was at both the Stone Design rave and the Xanthus post-Expo party. At the rave he was wearing a white button-front casual shirt. He is probably in his late 20's, around 5'8" - 5'11" or so. He is slim, clean-cut, no facial hair or glasses. He has dark hair. He has one other identifying characteristic which I will reserve for authentication. If this sounds like you, or you know someone who fits the description, please e-mail me before I'm any more embarrassed! :-) :-( Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome! Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!transfer.stratus.com!usenet From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Font in Mail.app Date: 7 Jul 1994 15:38:43 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Lines: 29 Message-ID: <2vh7i3$ll5@transfer.stratus.com> Reply-To: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sinistar.cac.stratus.com Is there a way to set the default font used when composing mail? I wouldn't doubt theres a hidden default there, somewhere ... or is it one of the system fonts? -- I'm thinking about DIGITAL READ-OUT systems and computer-generated IMAGE FORMATIONS.. Howard Ship hship@zen.cac.stratus.com [NeXT Mail OK] `84 GPz 750 "I lurk not, neither do I flame." -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M<9C%< M9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT M>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P M-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R M.%QF8S!<8V8P($ES('1H97)E(&$@=V%Y('1O('-E="!T:&4@9&5F875L="!F M;VYT('5S960@=VAE;B!C;VUP;W-I;F<@;6%I;#\@($D@=V]U;&1N)W0@9&]U M8G0@=&AE<F5S(&$@:&ED9&5N(&1E9F%U;'0@=&AE<F4L('-O;65W:&5R92`N M+BX@;W(@:7,@:70@;VYE(&]F('1H92!S>7-T96T@9F]N=',_7`I<"@I<<&%R M9%QT>#4R,%QT>#$P-C!<='@Q-C`P7'1X,C$R,%QT>#(V-C!<='@S,C`P7'1X M,S<R,%QT>#0R-C!<='@T.#`P7'1X-3,R,%QF<S(T7&9C,%QC9C`@+2U<"DDG M;2!T:&EN:VEN9R!A8F]U="!$24=)5$%,(%)%040M3U54('-Y<W1E;7,@86YD M7`H@8V]M<'5T97(M9V5N97)A=&5D($E-04=%($9/4DU!5$E/3E,N+EP*(%P* M2&]W87)D(%-H:7`@(&AS:&EP0'IE;BYC86,N<W1R871U<RYC;VT@(%M.95A4 M($UA:6P@3TM=("!@.#0@1U!Z(#<U,%P*"2))(&QU<FL@;F]T+"!N96ET:&5R 2(&1O($D@9FQA;64N(EP*"GT* ` Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!taft!cleelacj From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Message-ID: <CsKr8p.5yv@agedwards.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:36:25 GMT References: <1994Jul6.175208.3733@kurt.in-berlin.de> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Lines: 15 Gerald Erdmann (gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de) wrote: : Hello, : under 3.2 you can't remove hppa binary with lipo. Is there a simple : possibility to remove ONLY hppa binary without removing m68k and intel? What about extracting the m68k and the intel versions into separate files, then using lipo to combine them? -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!engineer.mrg.uswest.com!cherokee!da_vinci!dread!dhinz From: dhinz@dread (David Hinz) Subject: What happened to my system. Message-ID: <CsKtGs.9sx@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com> Sender: news@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews) Nntp-Posting-Host: dread Reply-To: dhinz@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com Organization: US WEST IT Development X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:24:28 GMT Lines: 43 Last week by NeXTstation turbo Color experienced 2 kernel panics and since then it is behaving very weird. At boot it sometimes takes up to 5 minutes to get from the message "...reboot complete..." to the login window. Applications can take up to 10 minutes to launch, just get the spinning disk cursor, but while waiting for that one to launch the rest of the system is usable. A ps -aux took approximately 8 minutes to run and then showed nothing abnormal. I've done fsck's and find no problems with the disk. The kernel panics came from running the Alby-ppp that was only for 3.0 on a 3.2 machine. I have the feeling that the problem with my machine may now be related to not completly removing ppp from my system. A netstat shows znih:/Users/dbhinz> netstat -r Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface localhost localhost UH 0 0 lo0 151.116 znih U 0 1324 en0 But my system isn't using en0, not on any network. The "Use" field related to 151.116 keeps increasing, is that correct? Could it be related to swapping, I only have 16 Megs of RAM, and am now down to about 45 megs of disk space. Any ideas from anyone? I would hate to have to reinstall. Thanks, David Hinz. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ David Hinz ~ ~ Email: dhinz@spacelab.ecte.uswc.uswest.com ~ ~ dbhinz@znih.rmnug.org (NeXTmail OK) ~ ~ Phone: (303) 595-2844 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!acs.ucalgary.ca!newsserver!news From: Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (Alex Nghiem) Subject: NeXTSTEP on portables with over 640 * 480 resolution Message-ID: <1994Jul7.155045.9663@pcp.ca> Keywords: NeXTSTEP Sender: news@pcp.ca Nntp-Posting-Host: newsserver Reply-To: Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (Alex Nghiem) Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:50:45 GMT Lines: 22 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14083 comp.sys.laptops:14831 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:9899 Hello there: I'm in the market to purchase a portable to run NS in a reasonable manner. The most obvious problem is the screen space (I heard rumours of new portables with over 640 * 480 resolution but I haven't seen them yet so....). Are there any users out there who are successfully using portables with NS the Developer Edition? I've used NS on 640 * 480 and it's completely unusable - InterfaceBuilder, when it first launches, takes up the entire screen! Any recommendations would be welcomed. I would especially welcome an exact configuration with price (I recall seeing NS run on the new Sun portable at the NS Expo but I didn't get a chance to look at that configuration too closely). Please e-mail me directly and I'll summarize if there's interest. Thanks, Alex Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (until July 22nd) alex@oolesson.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!acs.ucalgary.ca!newsserver!news From: Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (Alex Nghiem) Subject: Re: Font in Mail.app Message-ID: <1994Jul7.160747.9901@pcp.ca> Keywords: fonts, Mail Sender: news@pcp.ca Nntp-Posting-Host: newsserver Reply-To: Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (Alex Nghiem) Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. References: <2vh7i3$ll5@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:07:47 GMT Lines: 24 Howard: Use the Preferences application and set the value of the "Application Font". NS uses this value if the font is unspecified for an application. Regards, Alex Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (until July 22nd) alex@oolesson.com In article <2vh7i3$ll5@transfer.stratus.com> hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) writes: Is there a way to set the default font used when composing mail? I wouldn't doubt theres a hidden default there, somewhere ... or is it one of the system fonts? -- I'm thinking about DIGITAL READ-OUT systems and computer-generated IMAGE FORMATIONS.. Howard Ship hship@zen.cac.stratus.com [NeXT Mail OK] `84 GPz 750 "I lurk not, neither do I flame." Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news.byu.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!zapotec.math.byu.edu!kris From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on portables with over 640 * 480 resolution Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 7 Jul 1994 17:49:49 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <2vhf7t$k3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <1994Jul7.155045.9663@pcp.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: zapotec.math.byu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14085 comp.sys.laptops:14840 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:9903 Good luck. As far as I know, no Intel-based notebook supports resolutions greater than 640 x 480. I've heard rumors that NEC is working on a notebook with greater resolution, but they have not yet announced any products. If I were buying a notebook, I'd wait to see what NeXT comes up with for SPARC hardware. The Tadpole SPARCbook 2 and the Sun Voyager look like good candidates for NEXTSTEP running in 8-bit color at greater resolutions. Save your pennies, though, as both cost a ton of simoleans. .................................kris Alex Nghiem (Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca) wrote: : Hello there: : I'm in the market to purchase a portable to run NS in a reasonable manner. : The most obvious problem is the screen space (I heard rumours of new : portables with over 640 * 480 resolution but I haven't seen them yet : so....). Are there any users out there who are successfully using : portables with NS the Developer Edition? I've used NS on 640 * 480 and : it's completely unusable - InterfaceBuilder, when it first launches, takes : up the entire screen! : Any recommendations would be welcomed. I would especially welcome an exact : configuration with price (I recall seeing NS run on the new Sun portable : at the NS Expo but I didn't get a chance to look at that configuration too : closely). : Please e-mail me directly and I'll summarize if there's interest. : Thanks, : Alex : Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (until July 22nd) : alex@oolesson.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!csaldanh From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: SimonSays Message-ID: <CsL25F.M9B@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <2vc7s8$pto@GRAPEVINE.LCS.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 18:32:03 GMT Lines: 13 Michelle Eng (shelbean@neil-armstrong.media.mit.edu) wrote: : Hi. I work for Mike Hawley at MIT. We're looking for a pointer to : Greg Cockroft concerning his work on the Next application SimonSays. : Can anyone help me with this? The person I always delt with on the SimonSays beta cycle was mary@metrosoft.com (Mary Donnelly) --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o----------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!nott!cunews!csaldanh From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Message-ID: <CsL2B6.MKM@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <1994Jul6.175208.3733@kurt.in-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 18:35:29 GMT Lines: 15 Gerald Erdmann (gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de) wrote: : Hello, : under 3.2 you can't remove hppa binary with lipo. Is there a simple : possibility to remove ONLY hppa binary without removing m68k and intel? Get MetroSuction from ftp.cs.orst.edu. It claims to do it, but I have never tried, myself. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o----------------- Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!src.honeywell.com!homer.bethel.edu!usenet From: gossett@tinuviel.bethel.edu (Eric Gossett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: public window server over slip Date: 7 Jul 1994 18:33:09 GMT Organization: Bethel College, MN Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vhhp5$1q2@homer.bethel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tinuviel.bethel.edu Keywords: slip, window server I would like to run applications such as Mail.app, Newsgrazer, etc. on a NextStation attached to the ethernet at work and display the output on an Intel machine running NextStep at home. I have a slip connection available, but have been unable to get `open' to cooperate. OpenSesame seems to be out of the question because maounting a file system and selecting an executable file over the slip connection puts the Workspace Manager (or File Viewer) into limbo while it waits for a few hours worth of packets to traverse the link. Has anyone had any success with running programs on a remote machine and displaying the output windows on a local machine if the connection is slip instead of ethernet? Eric Gossett gossett@bethel.edu Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!balu.ixpoint.de!usenet From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NuBus Programming Date: 7 Jul 1994 17:00:17 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Lines: 37 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vhcb1$27c@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <CsHMyr.G3K@ucdavis.edu> Reply-To: gguelden@ixpoint.de NNTP-Posting-Host: gg_cube.ixpoint.de In article <CsHMyr.G3K@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) writes: > > > I would like to write a driver for the NuBus for a Cube. > How is this done?? Are the ROM commands for this > documented? > In the glory days of black hardware, I wrote a driver for a PROFIBUS (Process Automation Field Bus) card for the cube. First it is not a NuBus. It is a NeXTbus, which is different but with same ideas. There are two description from NeXT (The NeXTbus Development Kit). One about the NeXTBus and one about the NBIC (NeXT Bus Interface Chip). Ask your nearest NeXT reseller....if you find one alive :-( Basically, what you have to do is to write a loadable kernel server ( I used the example in the NeXT Developer 2.1). There are special C-Functions for the kernel. Perhaps you should take a view on the Mach documentation available somewhere on the net about the kernel, kernel servers and MIG. You will access the kernel server via RPC calls (therefore the MIG) from higher level programms (AppKit based i.e.). It's not that heavy it sounds to be, but I never had to implement a interrupt driven loadable kernel server. This will be really funny ;-) So long Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!balu.ixpoint.de!usenet From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4Si-Network Printer Problems Date: 7 Jul 1994 17:14:37 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vhd5t$28k@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <5JUL199418432975@rosie.uh.edu> Reply-To: gguelden@ixpoint.de NNTP-Posting-Host: gg_cube.ixpoint.de In article <5JUL199418432975@rosie.uh.edu> aies6@rosie.uh.edu (Luong, Jessica) writes: > anyone out there has a HP LaserJet 4Si MX connected to their next network? > > I am trying to connect one but it's not going smoothly. > > HELP!!!!! Why do everyone try to use HP ????? HP is pretty good for workstations, not for network printers. If you look for the best network printer for the best operating system than take a very close look on QMS printers. And in our opinion you will see the best network print systems (b/w and color) available out there (and because of that, we wrote the drivers). No more problems on network printing .... Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!ukma!deepthought!neil From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (MORE) Message-ID: <1994Jul7.190156.17135@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Reply-To: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <2vh3ap$s36@news.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 19:01:56 GMT Lines: 49 In article <2vh3ap$s36@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > The Mystery Man hasn't surfaced yet, so I'm going to assume that my original > posting didn't provide sufficient information for him to recognize himself. So > here's some more. > > He was at both the Stone Design rave and the Xanthus post-Expo party. At the > rave he was wearing a white button-front casual shirt. He is probably in his > late 20's, around 5'8" - 5'11" or so. He is slim, clean-cut, no facial hair or > glasses. He has dark hair. He has one other identifying characteristic which > I will reserve for authentication. > > If this sounds like you, or you know someone who fits the description, please > e-mail me before I'm any more embarrassed! :-) :-( Lets start some sort of c.s.n.m "TO TELL THE TRUTH" game. Come on readers, I know the rest of you are more then interested in finding out exactly who this individual may be. Or better yet, exactly what is going to happen when this person surfaces? Maybe we can start placing some bets or something? :-) You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Get your minds out of the gutter and back to the keyboards thinking the way you are. Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. PS - Here is another good idea for a Net game, we played this one on the way to Chicago this weekend. Its called, "I have an object." and was developed by Kevin Solie. The object (there is that "O" word again) of the game is to figure out what object the other person is thinking of. The players asks "yes", "no" questions trying to figure out what "secret" object you are thinking of. PS, PS - If you think we were playing this game with NeXT's objects, you are dead wrong. There were females playing. -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news2.near.net!das-news.harvard.edu!honeydew.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What happened to my system. Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:31:41 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 45 Message-ID: <Ai75URK00iUvE5Ym8u@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po4.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <CsKtGs.9sx@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 7-Jul-94 What happened to my system. by David Hinz@dread > The kernel panics came from running the Alby-ppp that > was only for 3.0 on a 3.2 machine. I have the feeling that > the problem with my machine may now be related to not completly > removing ppp from my system. A netstat shows > > znih:/Users/dbhinz> netstat -r > Routing tables > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface > localhost localhost UH 0 0 lo0 > 151.116 znih U 0 1324 en0 > > But my system isn't using en0, not on any network. The "Use" > field related to 151.116 keeps increasing, is that correct? Wierd. What does your network connectivity look like? I have a SLIP line to the outside world and a local thin Ethernet with other machines off of it, and netstat -r does: Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface ANNEX-MCN.ANDREW CSWIGER.SLIP.ANDRE UH 0 64 slip0 localhost localhost UH 2 355 lo0 CSWIGER.SLIP.AND localhost UH 0 0 lo0 default ANNEX-MCN.ANDREW.C UG 2 4752 slip0 192.9.200 cswiger U 8 21184 en0 You should have some usage though the lo0 interface. You might need to create another route to your fully qualified domain name via gateway localhost as per line 3 of my routing table. > Could it be related to swapping, I only have 16 Megs of RAM, and > am now down to about 45 megs of disk space. Not likely to be a problem. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!watserv1!audiolab!jeffb From: jeffb@audiolab.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Bamford) Subject: Re: default shell on NS 3.2 Message-ID: <CsL5nM.D56@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo References: <2uuqqk$ok3@transfer.stratus.com> <2uvni8$efn@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <CsEICA.Bqw@spcuna.spc.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 19:47:45 GMT Lines: 20 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:9907 comp.sys.next.misc:14093 In article <CsEICA.Bqw@spcuna.spc.edu>, Operator <root@net23.com> wrote: >I run /home/info/menu as a shell for my "info" login and it isn't in >/etc/shells or in netinfo >So there! >Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider The WorkSpace Manager *does* check for a valid shell in /etc/shells. However, if you telnet in there is no apparently no check done on the shell. I recently put tcsh on the machine here and tried it out from my terminal which I need to use telnet. No problems. I tried it on the console and it said, effectively, "Not a valid shell" and then returned to the LoginWindow. Perhaps your system is setup differently but thats how it worked here. [Followups to c.s.n.s] -- *************************************************************************** * Jeff Bamford jsbamford@uwaterloo.ca -- NeXT Mail welcome * *************************************************************************** Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de!next2 From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.graphics Subject: Re: NeXT to FrameMaker conversion... Date: 3 Jul 94 06:26:41 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Lines: 16 Message-ID: <next2.773216801@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <1994Jun30.192025.19245@ctsx.celtech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.lang.postscript:10029 comp.sys.hp.apps:1369 comp.sys.next.misc:14094 comp.graphics:25440 cheryl@ctsx.celtech.com (Cheryl Snyder) writes: >Are there any >public domain or shareware utilities that can read .eps format graphics >files without the bitmaps? We have tried Frame, xv, and Canvas already. >Or, are there any other workable solutions to this problem? You can display eps pictures with xv if you have GhostScript installed (freeware PostScript rendering software from GNU, on any ftp site). Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!newshost.lanl.gov!usenet From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: public window server over slip Date: 7 Jul 1994 21:08:51 GMT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 44 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vhqt3$aoq@newshost.lanl.gov> References: <2vhhp5$1q2@homer.bethel.edu> Reply-To: doyle@pion.lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: pion.lanl.gov In article <2vhhp5$1q2@homer.bethel.edu> gossett@tinuviel.bethel.edu (Eric Gossett) writes: > I would like to run applications such as Mail.app, Newsgrazer, etc. on a > NextStation attached to the ethernet at work and display the output on an > Intel machine running NextStep at home. I have a slip connection > available, > but have been unable to get `open' to cooperate. OpenSesame seems to be > out of the question because maounting a file system and selecting an > executable file over the slip connection puts the Workspace Manager (or > File Viewer) into limbo while it waits for a few hours worth of packets > to traverse the link. > > Has anyone had any success with running programs on a remote machine and > displaying the output windows on a local machine if the connection is > slip instead of ethernet? > > Eric Gossett gossett@bethel.edu I was playing around with this recently. There was a helpful post a few weeks ago explaining one source of the problem. It seems that the problem is that nmserver is reinitialized at the bottom of the script rc.net before the slip interface is configured. You can run the line by hand after your slip connection is up. Unfortunately this is only good for a dedicated slip line since the nmserver will continually bring your slip back up. Instead, I think you can put an entry in your netinfo alias database for the remote machine on which you are trying to open up a connection. I never got around to doing this because I found the connection to slow to bother with when I was playing around with the nmserver stuff, but I am told it works. Also, be sure to use your full hostname after NXHost. You might also be able to disable slip coming up automatically when nmserver does its thing. I don't really understand your comment about OpenSesame. If the applications live in the same place on both machines (as is the case with Mail.app), then there is no mounting of remote filesystems. It is a simple rsh. Use the Services menu. However, it is a problem that OpenSesame doesn't use the full hostname for your slipped machine and thus seems to fail. Don't know a way around this (except maybe an alias entry on the server). Hope this helps, Mark Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!usenet From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (SOLVED) Date: 7 Jul 1994 21:46:08 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <2vht30$e7q@news.duke.edu> References: <1994Jul7.190156.17135@KYnug.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: terra.mc.duke.edu Okay, all you curious types-- I found out who the Mystery Man is. Just my luck, he's married. :-( :-( Denise (whose ballooon has just been popped) -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome! Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!uunet.ca!uunet.ca!trimark!news From: shayman@Trimark.com (Steve Hayman) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on portables with over 640 * 480 resolution Message-ID: <1994Jul7.211633.20548@trimark.com> Sender: news@trimark.com Nntp-Posting-Host: net_6_06 Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto References: <1994Jul7.155045.9663@pcp.ca> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 21:16:33 GMT Lines: 30 If you can live with a "transportable" - something a bit bigger than a laptop that needs to be plugged in - an option to consider is the transportable NeXTSTEP system that computerActive was showing at Expo. It's a real 486 machine approximately the size and shape of a Macintosh Classic. 800x600 16-bit colour, with a 10" Sony colour CRT screen. It's got a normal ISA motherboard on the inside, so you can add regular Ethernet and SCSI cards, and the display adaptor of your choice. And there's room inside the machine for a big disk, lotsa memory and a CDRom - no messing with docking stations required . Plus it's easy to attach an external higher-resolution monitor for when you're working at your desk. I think this would be a good solution for people who don't desparately need to be able to do NeXTSTEP on the beach, or NeXTSTEP in a plane, but just want a fully loaded machine that they can pack up and move around easily. (It weighs something like 17 lbs and packs up easily into a gym-bag-kind-of-thing) You can email sales@computerActive.on.ca or give Kevin Ford a call at (613) 225 4824 for more info. Disclaimer: I have been known to work for Kevin on occasion, but I still think it's a cool machine. (And it's black!) -- Steve Hayman Steve Hayman + Associates NeXTSTEP Consulting Toronto, Ontario shayman@Objectario.com (416) 769-8995 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!news From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Date: 7 Jul 1994 21:46:20 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 11 Message-ID: <2vht3c$gaf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <CsL2B6.MKM@cunews.carleton.ca> Reply-To: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: beast.math.ualberta.ca In article <CsL2B6.MKM@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: .. > Get MetroSuction from ftp.cs.orst.edu. > > It claims to do it, but I have never tried, myself. I have tried. It works. -- Peter Karbaliotis - University of Alberta - NeXTmail ok Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!nih-csl!postman From: smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov (Howard C. Smith) Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (SOLVED) Message-ID: <1994Jul7.224035.2435@alw.nih.gov> Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Reply-To: smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov Organization: National Institutes of Health References: <2vht30$e7q@news.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:40:35 GMT Lines: 28 In article <2vht30$e7q@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > Okay, all you curious types-- > > I found out who the Mystery Man is. > > Just my luck, he's married. :-( :-( ^^^^^^^ around 5'8" - 5'11" or so. He is slim, clean-cut, no facial hair or ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > glasses. He has dark hair. He has one other identifying characteristic ^^^^^^^^^ Steve Jobs checking on developers drinking habits incognito? > > Denise (whose ballooon has just been popped) > > -- > Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar > Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, > Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for > (919) 286-6468 W | reward. > blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome! - Howard Smith - smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!rosie.next.com!usenet From: mdadgar@next.com (Mark Dadgar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (SOLVED) Date: 7 Jul 1994 22:51:33 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <2vi0tl$cai@rosie.next.com> References: <2vht30$e7q@news.duke.edu> Reply-To: Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: sunset_town.next.com In article <2vht30$e7q@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > Okay, all you curious types-- > > I found out who the Mystery Man is. > > Just my luck, he's married. :-( :-( > > Denise (whose ballooon has just been popped) > Well, for those of us who've been eagerly following this saga, you could at least give a name!! (and hey, after that, he may not be married anymore ... ) - Mark Note: neither NeXT, Inc., nor I advocate the breaking up of a presumably happy marriage. ;) Mark Dadgar Network/Systems Administrator, NeXT Computer, Inc. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!usenet From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: InstantTeX and Keyboard.app Date: 8 Jul 1994 00:52:03 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Lines: 19 Message-ID: <2vi7vj$2tl@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Reply-To: jdevlin@umich.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ghostrider.reshall.umich.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:11532 comp.sys.next.misc:14101 I am using Instant TeX 3.0 with NEXTSTEP 3.2 on black hardware. As root I used the bundled Keyboard.app (version 3) to remap the NextUSA keyboard so that Control-/ gives "\" and Alternate-/ gives "|". (That way I don't have to use the numeric keypad on the right.) This works for all users and for all apps *EXCEPT* TeXEdit. (In particular, it DOES work for both Edit and TeXWorks.) QUESTION: What can I do to make TeXEdit accept the remapped keyboard? I know that TeXEdit has a command equivalent for "\" in the Syntax menu and that "|" is available off the Palette, but I prefer my own keymappings. Solutions? Suggestions? Any help here would be much appreciated. THANKS. --- John Devlin Department of Philosophy University of Michigan Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!msuinfo!news From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DOS scsi disk mounted on Black Date: 8 Jul 1994 05:29:18 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <2vio7e$123e@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: via-annex3-54.cl.msu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:10464 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:9919 comp.sys.next.misc:14102 Hello, Has anyone used black hardware to make a DOS formatted SCSI disk and then moved it to an intel machine and mounted the disk? I am trying to use a external Pinnacle PMO-650 to mount DOS formatted disks without sucess. And when I try to make a DOS formatted disk I get DOS: that type of disk is not supported Yet when I do a Mac formatted disk I have no problems.. It seems strange to me that since NS is now on intel that NS can't format DOS scsi devices (I'm running NS3.2). Thanks for any info in advance, Sincerely Randy Rencsok rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (use this since my dynamic return address changes continually, sorry working on it) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!honeydew.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 01:43:56 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 40 Message-ID: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <2vi5il$2oc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14103 comp.sys.next.programmer:10736 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17466 Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 8-Jul-94 Re: NeXT stomps yet another.. by Steven S. Rosenblum: > While I'm not a lawyer, it seems like you'd have a _very_ strong case for > suing NeXT -- if you have written/electronic corroboration of what > NeXT said to you. A statement of policy by NeXT saying that they didn't plan to produce a MIME-compliant Mail.app at some previous time *does not* represent a legal contract that NeXT cannot ever produce such an app, regardless of whether they made this policy statement officially (via a public announcement) or unofficially (via backchannels, such as email). NeXT has absolutely no legal obligations to only produce software that does not compete with other vendors' products. For example, take a look at the OTI StringKit versus NeXT's new StringKit. OTI made/makes a great product in their StringKit, but I'd rather have much of that functionality available to every NEXTSTEP programmer as a basic part of the operating system, not just the ones who know about and can afford OTI's product. Software isn't static; commercial products get outdated by newer technology or by cheaper/freeware products all the time, particularly if there is a very high demand for that product's functionality. If one's product is not competitive, then why should potential customers pay for it when they would be better off with something else? That being said, it still doesn't make things any easier to deal with when one of your products gets killed by the competition. I wish the people involved the best, and I hope that they can redirect their expertise and talents into producing new products for the NeXT community. Regards, -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi." Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news2.near.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: file transfers Date: 8 Jul 1994 09:35:35 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 19 Message-ID: <2vj6l7$d6d@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: nukestep.mit.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14104 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:9925 I am trying to determine the best way to transfer files between myself and a friend. I am using NEXTSTEP 3.2 and can connect to the internet directly or by modem. My friend is using MSDOS/Windows and uses a modem to connect to Compuserve. The files that we need to send are about 1MB large. Some are Postscript and some are AutoCad .dwg files (binary). They are too large for Compuserve to handle by email and my friend does not have ftp capability. Is there a way for us to send them directly to each other without using the internet, or is there a better way to transfer them? Thanks in advance, Greg Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!news.dkrz.de!dscomsa.desy.de!CERN.ch!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!trib.apple.com!amd!amdint.amd.com!txnews.amd.com!news From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Internal and ISDN modem Message-ID: <CsLE9M.ELr@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Nntp-Posting-Host: aunext1 Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:53:44 GMT Lines: 14 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:10471 comp.sys.next.misc:14105 Simple straightforward question...does NEXTSTEP/FIP support the use of an internal modem in ANY fashion ? I want to put an Ascend, Combinet, or ISDN*tek internal ISDN modem in a 486 box and run SLIP over ISDN under NEXTSTEP. What's the critical path (even all the pieces don't exist - I like to know what needs to be there for this to happen) ? -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!zapotec.math.byu.edu!sean From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 8 Jul 1994 14:45:45 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Lines: 31 Message-ID: <2vjoqp$fe2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: zapotec.math.byu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14106 comp.sys.next.programmer:10750 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17473 Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote: : Software isn't static; commercial products get outdated by newer : technology or by cheaper/freeware products all the time, particularly if : there is a very high demand for that product's functionality. If one's : product is not competitive, then why should potential customers pay for : it when they would be better off with something else? Take Three's problem is that they see unfair competition in this: i.e., they're being forced to compete with their sole provider. I'd say this _would_ have a case _possibly_ if NeXT had never produced a Mail program, if we never suspected NeXT would provide MIME support in its newest version (we all knew this almost a year ago), and if NeXT profited considerably off its Mail program. None are true. On the other hand, MS has got quite a serious unfair competition case against it, as it's seen (fairly accurately) running competitors out of the market when stepping in with a new app. The Stacker case is a great example, in case anyone wants to suggest this "doesn't happen" (who in the world would?) So there is unfair competition and then there is unfair competition. I don't think Take Three has a case. (Sorry, guys--Eloquent is a nice product, tho). +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jgrace From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: Q: binhex -> next conversion? Message-ID: <jgraceCsMoMG.FGq@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 15:35:03 GMT Lines: 11 Well, I've checked cs.orst.edu and sonata, and I don't see any binhex converters. Could someone tell me how to convert from binhex4.0 back to binary (for my next). Since I'm desperate, even pointers on converting to binhex4.0 -> mac would help! Thanks, = Joe = (NextMail ready) Control: cancel <jgraceCsMoMG.FGq@netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jgrace From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: cancel Message-ID: <jgraceCsMrsB.ItK@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 16:43:23 GMT Lines: 1 <jgraceCsMoMG.FGq@netcom.com> was cancelled from within trn. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: janna@reliant.bsd.uchicago.edu (Janna Ore Nugent) Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (MORE) Message-ID: <1994Jul8.170926.13411@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies References: <1994Jul7.190156.17135@KYnug.org> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 17:09:26 GMT Lines: 20 > PS - Here is another good idea for a Net game, we played this one on the > way to Chicago this weekend. Its called, "I have an object." and was > developed by Kevin Solie. > > The object (there is that "O" word again) of the game is to figure out > what object the other person is thinking of.The players asks "yes", "no" > questions trying to figure out what "secret" object you are thinking of. > > PS, PS - If you think we were playing this game with NeXT's objects, you > are dead wrong. There were females playing. ^^^^^^^ > -- > Neil Greene > benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] > 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 > Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864 Egads!!! Not FEMALES!!! No telling what they were thinking... -Janna Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!bigboote.WPI.EDU!bigwpi.WPI.EDU!nether From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Edit & Librarian losing TIFF files in .rtfd's [ANSWERS] Date: 8 Jul 1994 17:02:19 GMT Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Lines: 25 Message-ID: <2vk0qr$dah@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: <2vgsed$9c@bigboote.WPI.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu In article <2vgsed$9c@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, I wrote: > I was hoping someone could help me. Whenever I bring up > a .rtfd document up in either Edit or Librarian, the generic > next icon comes up instead of the TIFF. This is baffling me, > help would be much appreciated. Thanks to Denise Blakeley and Leif Smith for helping out. It seems that in NS3.0, there is a bug that causes this. It is triggered by having either Bacchus' Image Agent, OmniImageFilter, or possibly some other imaging services. A work around is to disable the service, or upgrade to the latest release of NS. Leif points out that this bug is also evident in NS3.1 >P.S. Does anyone know where the file NA.compressed can be found on Thanks to Dan Grillo, NA.compressed is a file built daily. Something went wrong on the day that I looked on the site, but everything is o.k. now. Thanks to all, joel belog Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!ukma!deepthought!neil From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: public window server over slip Message-ID: <1994Jul8.173230.438@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Reply-To: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <2vhhp5$1q2@homer.bethel.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 17:32:30 GMT Lines: 28 In article <2vhhp5$1q2@homer.bethel.edu> gossett@tinuviel.bethel.edu (Eric Gossett) writes: > I would like to run applications such as Mail.app, Newsgrazer, etc. on a > NextStation attached to the ethernet at work and display the output on an > Intel machine running NextStep at home. I have a slip connection > available, > but have been unable to get `open' to cooperate. OpenSesame seems to be > out of the question because maounting a file system and selecting an > executable file over the slip connection puts the Workspace Manager (or > File Viewer) into limbo while it waits for a few hours worth of packets > to traverse the link. > > Has anyone had any success with running programs on a remote machine and > displaying the output windows on a local machine if the connection is > slip instead of ethernet? I do this all the time when I am modifing the network configuration between our machines at home and here in the office. NetInfo and HostManager work slow, but just as you would expect them. Be careful sending too many events to the window server, or you will end up with a spinning cursor as things are piped over that slip connection. -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!usenet From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (UH-OH!) Date: 8 Jul 1994 18:27:43 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Lines: 18 Message-ID: <2vk5qv$nfg@news.duke.edu> References: <1994Jul8.170926.13411@midway.uchicago.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: terra.mc.duke.edu The quest is still on after all! I got a TIFF of the proposed Mystery Man and it wasn't him! Now I'm REALLY stuck because that was the closest match anyone could think of. What to do, what to do... I don't think even Columbo and Magnum together could help me with this case. If anybody has an idea of who the Mystery Man might be (better yet, a TIFF to go with), please tell me. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome! Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!rosie.next.com!usenet From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: DOS scsi disk mounted on Black Date: 8 Jul 1994 18:00:59 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <2vk48r$dl9@rosie.next.com> References: <2vio7e$123e@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: splat.next.com ] Has anyone used black hardware to make a DOS formatted SCSI disk and ] then moved it to an intel machine and mounted the disk? You currently can't do this. There's a bug in the DOS filesystem which prevents you from mounting DOS hard drives on black hardware. (the DOS filesystem patch doesn't address this problem) The bug has been fixed for 3.3. ] I am trying to use a external Pinnacle PMO-650 to mount DOS formatted ] disks without sucess. And when I try to make a DOS formatted disk I ] get ] ] DOS: that type of disk is not supported that's correct. The DOS filesystem in NEXTSTEP doesn't support formatting hard drives. (sorry... this didn't make it for 3.3 either) ] Yet when I do a Mac formatted disk I have no problems.. It seems ] strange to me that since NS is now on intel that NS can't format DOS ] scsi devices (I'm running NS3.2). Yeah... well. This has been on the to do list for the DOS filesystem for a while. It shouldn't be hard once I actually get some cycles to do it, but up to now, we just haven't had the time. Erik Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!MathWorks.Com!news2.near.net!das-news.harvard.edu!honeydew.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (MORE) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 15:21:17 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 19 Message-ID: <Ii7OQhq00iV8M4ya9q@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Jul8.170926.13411@midway.uchicago.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 8-Jul-94 Re: You know who you are bu.. by Janna Ore Nugent@reliant > Egads!!! Not FEMALES!!! No telling what they were thinking... Well, what word was he supposed to use? Webster's says: female n syn WOMAN 1, babe, broad, dame, doll, gal, girl, lady, she, skirt Pick one.... :-) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!ukma!deepthought!neil From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (SOLVED) Message-ID: <1994Jul8.182249.916@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Reply-To: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <2vht30$e7q@news.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 18:22:49 GMT Lines: 21 In article <2vht30$e7q@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > Okay, all you curious types-- > > I found out who the Mystery Man is. > > Just my luck, he's married. :-( :-( > > Denise (whose ballooon has just been popped) I bet the other two guys that were dancing with you feel like real duds now. No honorable mention award? Now I am wondering, how many guys are out there sending Denise private emails now?? Let us know if you get any counter offers Denise. :-) -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!reg From: reg@netcom.com (Scott Wahrer) Subject: What database engine is used on Next Message-ID: <regCsMyL4.DMy@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 19:10:16 GMT Lines: 9 What database engine is used on the next platforms(s) TIA -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Wahrer Virtual HealthCare virtual@acm.org Application Specialist 617 Clara Barton reg@netcom.com Voice: 214-494-6229 Garland, TX 75042 Fax: 214-272-0805 P.O. Box 850766 Mesquite,Texas 75185 ______________________________________________________________________________ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!ukma!deepthought!neil From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (UH-OH!) Message-ID: <1994Jul8.203450.2259@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Reply-To: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <2vk5qv$nfg@news.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 20:34:50 GMT Lines: 21 In article <2vk5qv$nfg@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > The quest is still on after all! I got a TIFF of the proposed Mystery Man and > it wasn't him! > > Now I'm REALLY stuck because that was the closest match anyone could think of. > What to do, what to do... I don't think even Columbo and Magnum together could > help me with this case. Don't sell yourself short Denise, call Shpiro. Or, Quincy if you can get ahold of Jack Klugman. Quincy is just a hair better then Shpiro, but he could certainly assist you in your case. -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jgrace From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Message-ID: <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <2vjoqp$fe2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 21:20:44 GMT X-Original-Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Lines: 35 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14117 comp.sys.next.programmer:10758 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17496 In article <2vjoqp$fe2@hamblin.math.byu.edu>, Sean O. Luke <sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> wrote: >On the other hand, MS has got quite a serious unfair competition case against >it, as it's seen (fairly accurately) running competitors out of the market when >stepping in with a new app. The Stacker case is a great example, in case >anyone wants to suggest this "doesn't happen" (who in the world would?) The Stacker case is a great example, but not of what your talking about. It was about software patents (i.e., so-called intellectual property), not about downstream competition. And, frankly, like any victim of a software patent "infringement" case, I would say that MS got the shaft, not Stacker (assuming MS did not violate any Stacker copyrights, i.e., plagiarize). [NB: I am no fan of MS by far. Software so-called patents are just plain absurd.] >So there is unfair competition and then there is unfair competition. Yes, and please don't confuse the two!-) Software patents are heinous (one form of adulterated unfair competition, the big-brother granted monopoly) and so is unfair downstream competition (e.g., sole-source competition). One relies on governmental (big brother), the other on competitive monopolies (actually, the goverment is a competitive monopoly which simply meddles with market forces through its USPTO). Both provide for unfair "competition" (i.e., monopolies), but the two are not the same. Clear as mud, eh? :-0 Well, I tried. :-) Cheers, = Joe = Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news.byu.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!zapotec.math.byu.edu!sean From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 8 Jul 1994 22:33:28 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Lines: 51 Message-ID: <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <2vjoqp$fe2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: zapotec.math.byu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14118 comp.sys.next.programmer:10759 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17497 Joseph Grace (jgrace@netcom.com) wrote: : The Stacker case is a great example, but not of what your talking : about. It was about software patents (i.e., so-called : intellectual property), not about downstream competition. And, : frankly, like any victim of a software patent "infringement" : case, I would say that MS got the shaft, not Stacker (assuming MS : did not violate any Stacker copyrights, i.e., plagiarize). [NB: : I am no fan of MS by far. Software so-called patents are just : plain absurd.] The Stacker example is a great example because it shows Microsoft coming into a market and essentially destroying it not by superior quality but by virtue of its strategic position as the OS vendor upon which this market is based. It's a classic example of unfair competition. Now, Microsoft could have a case against current unfair competition laws in this situation because they can claim that compression is critical for them to have in their OS to compete _with_other_OSes_. Nonetheless, the action is exactly what happens in unfair competition situations. Stac was lucky, however, as Microsoft's move stumbled onto a Stac software patent, and Microsoft got stung HARD. However, Microsoft has come back with DriveSpace, which doesn't provide nearly the quality of Stacker but also doesn't infringe on its patents. More to the point, it's free with DOS, and Stacker is not. BOOM! 80% of Stac's market right there. Stac won the battle but may have lost the war. Expect 'em to join the unfair-competition FCC battle. : Software patents are heinous (one form of adulterated unfair : competition, the big-brother granted monopoly) and so is unfair : downstream competition (e.g., sole-source competition). One : relies on governmental (big brother), the other on competitive : monopolies (actually, the goverment is a competitive monopoly : which simply meddles with market forces through its USPTO). Both : provide for unfair "competition" (i.e., monopolies), but the two : are not the same. I'm not one to cry the virtues of software patents, but without them the industry wouldn't move because nobody would be willing to spend R&D without recouping losses. The problem I have with them is that they are for much to long a time. 20 years? They won't even make the product by then. This indeed stifles the industry (Can we say RSA? :-) +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!trib.apple.com!amd!amdint.amd.com!txnews.amd.com!news From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: I've got a virtual fever (was: What database engine is used on Next Message-ID: <Csn86y.825@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Nntp-Posting-Host: aunext3 Reply-To: charles.herrick@amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <regCsMyL4.DMy@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 22:37:44 GMT Lines: 10 In article <regCsMyL4.DMy@netcom.com> reg@netcom.com (Scott Wahrer) writes: > What database engine is used on the next platforms(s) .. ________________________________________________________________ > Scott Wahrer Virtual HealthCare ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wow. Is that like for virtual diseases? :-) -- personal opinions Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!terra.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de!zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de!news.dfn.de!scsing.switch.ch!swidir.switch.ch!univ-lyon1.fr!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!MathWorks.Com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!ames!tulane!cs.cs.uno.edu!snoopy!david From: david@snoopy (David Vazquez) Subject: Mounting NeXTStep partition. Message-ID: <1994Jul8.195054.26110@cs.uno.edu> Sender: news@cs.uno.edu Organization: University of New Orleans X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 19:50:54 GMT Lines: 6 Is it possible to mount a NeXTStep partition in linux or vice versa? The partition in question shows up as /dev/sda3 in linx, but none of the mount -t's that I've tried work. -David Vazquez "david@smobject.com" Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!rsrodger From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 20:01:03 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland College Park Lines: 31 Message-ID: <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu> References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <2vjoqp$fe2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Reply-To: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: rac5.wam.umd.edu Originator: rsrodger@rac5.wam.umd.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14121 comp.sys.next.programmer:10761 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17508 In article <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu>, sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) wrote: > Stac won the battle but may have lost the war. Expect 'em to join the > unfair-competition FCC battle. Too bad MS bought 15% of Stac, settled, and licensed Stac's patents, then, I guess. (They've made up.) > : Software patents are heinous (one form of adulterated unfair > : competition, the big-brother granted monopoly) Software patents are only heinous and disgusting because the Patent Office is incompetent and giving them out like parking tickets, despite prior art, despite the simplicity of the patent (the XOR cursor patent comes to mind). If patents were given out on truly novel, innovative and original discoveries, as they were meant to, would you still object? > I'm not one to cry the virtues of software patents, but without them > the industry wouldn't move because nobody would be willing to spend R&D > without recouping losses. The problem I have with them is that they are for > much to long a time. 20 years? They won't even make the product by then. > This indeed stifles the industry (Can we say RSA? :-) RSA is a poor example. Better examples are patents by small companies that do not make a product and used solely to extort money from larger companies who find it cheaper to pay than to contest the matter. -- Yippee for uqwk! Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!swissbank!root From: hendryj@il.us.swissbank.com (Jonathan Hendry) Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't Message-ID: <1994Jul8.194449.11058@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Nntp-Posting-Host: nwk137_ocachi Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <2v5fan$2rk@news.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 19:44:49 GMT Lines: 11 Denise Blakeley writes > > Following up to my own post...perhaps I should mention that I have short > blonde hair and was wearing a bright pink blazer. > > Denise You might want to describe the person in question. They may not remember that night too well... - Jon Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!Xenon.Stanford.EDU!achung From: achung@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Andy C. Hung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTstation for sale Date: 9 Jul 1994 03:40:20 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <2vl674$ln3@Times.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: xenon.stanford.edu NeXTstation for sale by original owner: Mint condition mono slab with 8M RAM/200M disk, 25 MHz 68040, Sony 17" Megapixel display, and NeXT laser printer plus lots of software including: Adobe Illustrator, Framemaker, Mathematica, WriteNow, Diagram, Concurrence, Adobe Fontpak, Executor (Mac emulator), SPICE, games & many megabytes of public domain stuff! Please send your offer to: rzvd40@email.mot.com (I'm posting this for a friend, so please reply to the address above! --andy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uop!csus.edu!netcom.com!garylang From: garylang@netcom.com (Gary Lang) Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Message-ID: <garylangCsnvqC.3B8@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <2vgt8s$41d@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> <940707143729.10537AAABJ.wes@arissoft> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 07:06:12 GMT Lines: 69 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:17523 comp.sys.next.misc:14124 comp.sys.next.programmer:10762 : Take Three developed a replacement for Mail.app called Eloquent. We checked : with NeXT to make sure their plans for mail would not conflict with our : product. : This is the short version of what NeXT has done that we would consider to be : machiavellian. : 1. NeXT lied to us about their plans for Mail.app (or possibly told us the : truth and then decided to follow our plans for Eloquent instead). : 2. NeXT requested beta copies of Eloquent, but wouldn't send in comments or I hope you can prove that. Because if not, this is slander. : bug reports, apparently they just wanted Eloquent so they could copy it. : 3. NeXT started working on their MIME support after they requested several : copies of the Eloquent beta, and after NeXT asked us to send them : the MIME RFC. : 4. NeXT used Eloquent to test their MIME implementation. I'll bet they used a lot of applications, like Eudora, so I can't see where this is a problem. You sent it to them. Unless your beta agreement sys that NeXT may not develop a like product for a certain period of time, this post is pretty useless Since they've done nothing wrong.. : 5. When we found out NeXT was upgrading Mail.app, NeXT refused to provide us : with any details, while they were providing them to others (including our : customers). : 6. After signing a non-Disclosure statement to receive info about the new : Mail.app, NeXT lied about what new features had been added. Hmm, did yuor lawyer go over this agreement? You may be violating it right now, and you may be violating it by continuing to develop your application. Why on earth would you collude so closely with them? This is like me colluding with Microsoft on my new word processor or something. ,: 7. Several features in the new Mail.app sound like they were copied from : Eloquent. Be specific, so we can judge whether or not they were so obvious that the were 'copy' wouldn't apply. :8.Before attempting to drive us out of business, NeXT requested our business : plan, marketing strategy, and financial information. For what purpose? : 9. NeXT has been rude enough to suggest that we should drop Eloquent write : bundles for Mail.app, or develop a spreadsheet. : If anyone is interested in a complete description with more details, let me : know. I will be happy to post the whole story (from my point of view at : least). Post away. As is, this is pretty slanderous and it would behoove you to post some supporting facts. : I wonder if IDG needs any character witnesses for their lawsuit? I would be : Note: In spite of NeXT's efforts, and apparent wishes, Take Three is **NOT** : going out of business. Instead we will be releasing a major upgrade to : Eloquent soon -- after it is too late for NeXT to copy it for 3.3. -- Gary Lang Email:garylang@netcom.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uop!csus.edu!netcom.com!garylang From: garylang@netcom.com (Gary Lang) Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Message-ID: <garylangCsnw8y.460@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <2vjoqp$fe2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 07:17:21 GMT Lines: 68 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14125 comp.sys.next.programmer:10763 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17524 Sean O. Luke (sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu) wrote: : Joseph Grace (jgrace@netcom.com) wrote: : into a market and essentially destroying it not by superior quality but : by virtue of its strategic position as the OS vendor upon which this market : is based. It's a classic example of unfair competition. WHat are you talking abut? They needed compression to compete with DR-DOS. WHy shouldn't they be allowed to develop it? They are a software company. : Stac was lucky, however, as Microsoft's move stumbled onto a Stac software : patent, and Microsoft got stung HARD. However, Microsoft has come back : with DriveSpace, which doesn't provide nearly the quality of Stacker but : also doesn't infringe on its patents. More to the point, it's free with DOS, : and Stacker is not. BOOM! 80% of Stac's market right there. Everybody in aftermarkets faces this and knows this up front. You are essentially trying to create a niche off of someone else's shortcomings. Once they address them, you have to find something else to do. What makes this so unique and heinous? Moreover, as the main product provider, you have your customers telling you all the time to get this aftermarket stuff into yur own product - people hate having to buy aftermarket products to get functionality that they feel should be in the main product. Should we be telling our customers to kiss off and buy an aftermarket product hen they tell us that they want this stuff built-in and not added-on? : Stac won the battle but may have lost the war. Expect 'em to join the : unfair-competition FCC battle. We all lost. Now that MS has gone through this they are grabbing patents on everything they can, whereas before this they weren't particularly interested in software patents. Gee, thanks STAC. For example, they just took out a patent on vtbls. How they got this I will never know. Arrays of function pointers, folks. Thanks STAC. : : Software patents are heinous (one form of adulterated unfair : : competition, the big-brother granted monopoly) and so is unfair : : downstream competition (e.g., sole-source competition). One : : relies on governmental (big brother), the other on competitive : : monopolies (actually, the goverment is a competitive monopoly : : which simply meddles with market forces through its USPTO). Both : : provide for unfair "competition" (i.e., monopolies), but the two : : are not the same. : I'm not one to cry the virtues of software patents, but without them : the industry wouldn't move because nobody would be willing to spend R&D : without recouping losses. The problem I have with them is that they are for Yes. Look at TI. They hardly do anything useful or interesting any more but thanks to their patents (many that they just went out and bought) they derive 46% of their income from attaching other company's products with licensing fees. This is so wonderful and we'll all really be moving soon thanks to this dynamic. : much to long a time. 20 years? They won't even make the product by then. : This indeed stifles the industry (Can we say RSA? :-) -- Gary Lang Email:garylang@netcom.COM Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.seanet.com!zebu.abstractsoft.com!zebu.abstractsoft.com!not-for-mail From: zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to set shell bkg color? Date: 9 Jul 1994 04:00:59 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Lines: 12 Message-ID: <2vm01b$141@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <Cs5u5L.HI@euler.hnv.icem.de> <2usmfl$op7@news.duke.edu> <2ut2cg$kq3@news.iastate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost Someone or other writes: >>In NS 3.3 later this year, Terminal does allow one to set colors for >>background and text. I saw it at Expo last week. So it's coming! I did notice, however, that terminal 3.3 still doesn't respond to ansi color codes. -- Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts Abstract Software | Professional collection for NeXT lamont@abstractsoft.com |____________________________________ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!unlisys!uriela.in-berlin.de!kurt!gerald From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Re: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Message-ID: <1994Jul9.102931.2732@kurt.in-berlin.de> Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de Reply-To: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de References: <2vht3c$gaf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 10:29:31 GMT Lines: 25 In article <2vht3c$gaf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes: > In article <CsL2B6.MKM@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris > Saldanha) writes: > .. > > Get MetroSuction from ftp.cs.orst.edu. > > > > It claims to do it, but I have never tried, myself. > > I have tried. It works. I have tried it too, but on my site you cannot remove hppa. My solution: lipo -thin m68k XYZ -output XYZ_1 lipo -thin i386 XYZ -output XYZ_2 lipo -create XYZ_1 XYZ_2 -output XYZ Gerald -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 puplic key available | Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!zib-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!delos.stgt.sub.org!tyrell.tynet.sub.org!marsu.tynet.sub.org!root From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Date: 9 Jul 1994 01:16:59 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Lines: 20 Message-ID: <2vkq9r$2mv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Jul6.175208.3733@kurt.in-berlin.de> <CsKr8p.5yv@agedwards.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: marsu.tynet.sub.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) writes: >Gerald Erdmann (gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de) wrote: >: Hello, >: under 3.2 you can't remove hppa binary with lipo. Is there a simple >: possibility to remove ONLY hppa binary without removing m68k and intel? >What about extracting the m68k and the intel versions into separate >files, then using lipo to combine them? Gee! Round the moon and back to earth... Isn't there an easier way? An update of lipo perhaps? Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!zib-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!delos.stgt.sub.org!tyrell.tynet.sub.org!marsu.tynet.sub.org!root From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Date: 9 Jul 1994 01:18:30 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Lines: 15 Message-ID: <2vkqcm$2nv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Jul6.175208.3733@kurt.in-berlin.de> <CsL2B6.MKM@cunews.carleton.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: marsu.tynet.sub.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: >: under 3.2 you can't remove hppa binary with lipo. Is there a simple >: possibility to remove ONLY hppa binary without removing m68k and intel? >Get MetroSuction from ftp.cs.orst.edu. >It claims to do it, but I have never tried, myself. MetroSuction is a frontend to lipo and therefore has the same problem. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!ukma!deepthought!wolverine!neil From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (MORE) Message-ID: <1994Jul9.072125.23980@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene) Reply-To: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <Ii7OQhq00iV8M4ya9q@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 07:21:25 GMT Lines: 19 In article <Ii7OQhq00iV8M4ya9q@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 8-Jul-94 Re: You know who you > are bu.. by Janna Ore Nugent@reliant > > Egads!!! Not FEMALES!!! No telling what they were thinking... > > Well, what word was he supposed to use? Webster's says: > > female n > syn WOMAN 1, babe, broad, dame, doll, gal, girl, lady, she, skirt From the looks of the choices. I would have to say they were the following [ WOMAN||babe||broad||dame||doll||gal||girl|lady ] -- Sincerely, Neil Greene Control: cancel <jgraceCsonvD.3IL@netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jgrace From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: cancel Message-ID: <jgraceCsoo6L.3xE@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 17:20:45 GMT Lines: 1 <jgraceCsonvD.3IL@netcom.com> was cancelled from within trn. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jgrace From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: KISS software patents goodbye. Message-ID: <jgraceCsooE6.49x@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 17:25:18 GMT Lines: 202 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14131 comp.sys.next.programmer:10765 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17537 In article <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu>, R S Rodgers <rsrodger@wam.umd.edu> wrote: >Joseph Grace wrote: >: Software patents are heinous (one form of adulterated unfair >: competition, the big-brother granted monopoly) > >Software patents are only heinous and disgusting because the Patent >Office is incompetent and giving them out like parking tickets, >despite prior art, despite the simplicity of the patent (the XOR >cursor patent comes to mind). Patents in general are a hack, originally to even out the playing field for up-and-coming manufacturers. In the 1700's, the world was quite a different place: no industrial revolution, no global marketplace, ..., and a need for innovation. Our forefathers made the decision to trade-off "fair trade" for "innovation". In other words, someone decided to compromise free competition in order to promote innovation and new ideas. So, they instituted a policy of granting 17-year monopolies to "inventors" so they could build a manufacturing base from which to compete and deliver product. In this way, "inventors" could make a go of business and become entrepreneurs. With software, no such manufacturing base is needed (inventors just have someone manufacture and publish for them). Even manufacturing can be fully automated and out-sourced today. In the 1700's and for sometime thereafter, compromising free competition (through 17-year monopolies) to promote innovation may have been a prudent trade-off. For example, industry has innovated tremendously and experienced revolutionary industrial growth (i.e., the industrial revolution). The hack of patents promoting innovation artificially seems to have worked. Indeed, we have even gone so far as to make a market out of ideas themselves (i.e., publishable goods rather than "just" manufacturable goods), i.e., software, and mass publication, i.e., the media. We have global markets, global advertising, and global shipping and handling. Anyone can outsource their manufacturing to another company, and we're even beginning to see truly automated CADesign and CAManufacturing (in the case of software, this is a no-brainer). One can design a gizmo electronically, and let a computer implement the manufacturing for her/himself (e.g., NeXT's black hardware factory). In other words, the market for good innovations (i.e., products you can buy, not pie in the sky inventions) is broader, larger than it was for inventors back in the 1700's. And the manufacturing playing field is no longer uneven to the tune of 17 years lead time (perhaps not at all, actually, with the rapid pace of change). Once a prudent hack to promote innovation at the expense of free competition, the patent system has done its job and outlived its usefulness. Worse than just outliving its usefulness, it is now impairing the very thing it meant to promote: innovation. Bureacratic red tape, non-merit-based competition (i.e., non-market monopolies), and enormous legal exposure undermine the value of good ideas in today's software (and other industry) marketplace for entrepreneurs. Alert entrepreneurs must consider the threat of being sued for "intellectual property infringement" when no copying or plagiarism took place. Even in the "best" cases, patents stifle competition in a healthy, self-propelling marketplace. With all the risks of entrepreneurship today, the additional, unmeasurable risk of "submarine" lawsuits can be the "straw" that broke the camel's back, so to speak. Even if an entrepreneur were never sued, the insurance costs are prohibitive, i.e., insurance is unaffordable. And, without insurance, an entrepreneur and her/his company takes full exposure to any lawsuit. Bottom line: without any wrongdoing (i.e., plagiarism) on an entrepreneur's part, s/he can be driven out of business *legally*. Patents inhibit innovation by undermining free market competition for entrepreneurs. They now create the very problem they were originally intended to address (not solve, since they have always been a hack/compromise/trade-off). So, back in the days when the manufacturing market was just forming, a little extra incentive to innovate was good, especially since the market was so limited that the likelihood of "interference" between patent(able good)s was slim or nothing. Today, just the opposite is the case. The market is huge, self-sustaining, and well-developed. Everything is changing and, in a patent sense, "interfering" with everything else. Very few isolated pockets of anything exist anymore, and, also, no need for "extra incentive" exists anymore. The market is already self-sustaining. In other words, we don't need no stinkin' patents to innovate with software (and other industries will follow as they computer automate). Healthy markets are already naturally, and rapidly growing and self-sustaining. In summary, times change, and priorities change. Innovation is no longer the dire need it once was. Free competition and quality are. Patents compromise free market competition (since they are non-market-based 17-year artificial monopolies). They always did, but there didn't used be an agile, global market to compromise. Now there is. Patents compromise quality. No single manufacturer (e.g., software developer) will naturally produce better quality without healthy competition. [Actually, this is a new (but important) topic (and not just summary). Fairly obvious point though, I believe.] Ultimately, customers lose with patents today. >If patents were given out on truly >novel, innovative and original discoveries, as they were meant to, >would you still object? As you may have guessed, yes! :-) Even the best marketers don't have such a crystal ball. Why should I believe a bunch of lawyer geeks and computer nerds at the USPTO should be any different? Also, it's a matter of different priorities today than "yesterday". Invention no longer needs incentive. Implementation and delivery do (i.e., quality). Patents don't promote quality, they hinder it by granting a sole-monopoly and eliminating competitive forces from the market equation. Patents are, today, an hobbling force on "technology" market development. I feel we should (as with a lot of our government "legacies") purge patents from the system. A keen application of the KISS principle is needed to free competition and put customers and entrepreneurs in the driver's seat of which providers succeed and which fail (this same model could apply well to the "market" for government services as well). Let companies live or die by their customers's satisfaction and their own performance, and not by some USPTO agent's artificial blessing. But if patents are so foul, one may ask, why do they still exist? They exist for three reasons, self-interest, inertia, and unrepresentative and imprudent policy-making. At the software patent hearings in San Jose early this year. The principal defenders of software patents were lawyers. This makes a lot of sense from a greed-based perspective of the lawyer industry, i.e., they want to protect their cash cow, especially as the cash cow becomes cumbersome and unwieldy (read: lots of litigation). Basically, they want software patents to subsidize their service industry. Granted, it's an artificial, indirect subsidy, but it's an "emerging market" for them. So what's wrong with this picture other than that (greedy, self-interested lawyers)? Unfortunately, a lot. Guess who makes up the USPTO board of review for the software patent hearings. Yup, five (or so?) lawyers. Who is in charge at the USPTO? Yup, a lawyer. Who makes up the bulk of the U.S. Congress. Yup, lawyers. (The software industry is not the only industry with this catch-22 problem re: self-interested lawyers making "the" laws, cf. the medical and the nutrition industries.) All of these factors add up to strong self-interest by the policy-maker "have"s (the lawyers) and the "have-not"s (the software industry, among others). Unfortunately, the inertia and the unrepresentative and imprudent policy-making all-too-readily complement the self-interest problems in U.S. government today. Who do the USPTO bureaucrats (and most of the establishment) tend to agree with more: credentialed or uncredentialed testifiers? Right, those with credentials (like law degrees, espcially like those of the USPTO members). And what size companies, does the USPTO most respect? Large ones with lots of "proven" technology and a "proven" track record (rather than the innovative, unproven, small companies). In other words, the whole system is set-up to protect the legacy systems, companies, and legacy bureacrat jobs. Self-interest. Inertia. Unrepresentative and imprudent policy-making. The very people we need to act without self-interest naturally won't, and the system is too broken to fix itself. Harumph. (Last post on this topic, if I can help it. I don't have the time... That's about all I have to say on the topic right now, anyway.) Bottom line: KISS the USPTO patent system goodbye. Cheers, = Joe = p.s., R, I hope that answered your question! (1/2 :-) p.p.s., I have not even addressed how, assuming patents *were* (of mood, not tense) a good thing, how the patent process is broken (race conditions, delays, gray areas, unmanageable growth, etc.). <Exercise left to the reader> :-) Control: cancel <jgraceCsooBz.43K@netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jgrace From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: cancel Message-ID: <jgraceCsooEM.4BM@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 17:25:34 GMT Lines: 1 <jgraceCsooBz.43K@netcom.com> was cancelled from within trn. Control: cancel <jgraceCsooBz.43K@netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jgrace From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: cancel Message-ID: <jgraceCsooFH.4F5@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 17:26:05 GMT Lines: 1 <jgraceCsooBz.43K@netcom.com> was cancelled from within trn. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu!alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu!not-for-mail From: bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Date: 9 Jul 1994 11:44:47 -0700 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Lines: 19 Message-ID: <2vmr6v$ok3@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <2vjoqp$fe2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <garylangCsnw8y.460@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14132 comp.sys.next.programmer:10766 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17539 >Moreover, as the main product provider, you have your customers telling >you all the time to get this aftermarket stuff into yur own product - >people hate having to buy aftermarket products to get functionality that >they feel should be in the main product. Should we be telling our >customers to kiss off and buy an aftermarket product hen they tell >us that they want this stuff built-in and not added-on? My biggest complaint with Next is that they unbundled the Appleshare support, so now I'd have to get CAP or some 3rd party product to print to our networked LaserWriters. (Unfortunately, netatalk hasn't been ported to Nexts.) It's hard to feel good when an upgrade breaks one of the nice features you were using extensively. -- Bill Eldridge bill@lifesci.ucla.edu Feeling much better since I smashed my TV. 310-206-3960 310-206-3987 (fax) I set my car alarm for 6 o'clock. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news.duke.edu!mc.duke.edu!blake015 From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Date: 9 Jul 1994 19:39:28 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Lines: 8 Message-ID: <2vmudg$b4q@news.duke.edu> References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <garylangCsnw8y.460@netcom.com> <2vmr6v$ok3@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bullnext.mc.duke.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14133 comp.sys.next.programmer:10768 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17542 Doesn't this thread belong in c.s.n.advocacy? Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!warwick!zaphod.crihan.fr!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!news.imag.fr!ciril.fr!thot.u-strasbg.fr!usenet From: jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr (JP NOVAK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: X Server with a NeXTDimension Card Date: 9 Jul 1994 23:55:48 GMT Organization: Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg (France) Lines: 7 Message-ID: <2vnde4$9u0@thot.u-strasbg.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ia5.u-strasbg.fr Hello, Is there any X Server that works correctly with a NeXTDimension Card and NS3.2 ??? Thanks for any response (and sorry if the answer is on any FAQ .). bye. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!garylang From: garylang@netcom.com (Gary Lang) Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Message-ID: <garylangCspK91.Kos@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <2vjoqp$fe2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <garylangCsnw8y.460@netcom.com> <2vmr6v$ok3@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 04:53:25 GMT Lines: 27 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14135 comp.sys.next.programmer:10774 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17561 I was talking about adding aftermarket features to a product, not taking things out. Yes, that is truly brain-dead. William M. Eldridge (bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu) wrote: : >Moreover, as the main product provider, you have your customers telling : >you all the time to get this aftermarket stuff into yur own product - : >people hate having to buy aftermarket products to get functionality that : >they feel should be in the main product. Should we be telling our : >customers to kiss off and buy an aftermarket product hen they tell : >us that they want this stuff built-in and not added-on? : My biggest complaint with Next is that they unbundled the : Appleshare support, so now I'd have to get CAP or some : 3rd party product to print to our networked LaserWriters. : (Unfortunately, netatalk hasn't been ported to Nexts.) : It's hard to feel good when an upgrade breaks one of the : nice features you were using extensively. : -- : Bill Eldridge : bill@lifesci.ucla.edu Feeling much better since I smashed my TV. : 310-206-3960 : 310-206-3987 (fax) I set my car alarm for 6 o'clock. -- Gary Lang Email:garylang@netcom.COM Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!MathWorks.Com!news.duke.edu!mc.duke.edu!blake015 From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Jeremy Bussard please read Date: 10 Jul 1994 05:26:31 GMT Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C. Lines: 15 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2vo0q7$t1c@news.duke.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bullnext.mc.duke.edu Jeremy-- I'm trying to send you e-mail with comments on Tetris 3.1 but it keeps bouncing saying "User unknown". The address I'm using is the one you used to write me a few months ago. Are you still there? Please e-mail me. All you other folks reading this, shame on you! Jeremy is not the Mystery Man! : Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!gt-news!prism!prism!not-for-mail From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Date: 10 Jul 1994 01:54:22 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 90 Sender: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu Message-ID: <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu> <jgraceCsooE6.49x@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: acmex.gatech.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:14137 comp.sys.next.programmer:10775 comp.sys.next.advocacy:17567 jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) writes: >Patents in general are a hack, originally to even out the playing >field for up-and-coming manufacturers. In the 1700's, the world >was quite a different place: no industrial revolution, no global >marketplace, ..., and a need for innovation. Our forefathers >made the decision to trade-off "fair trade" for "innovation". In >other words, someone decided to compromise free competition in >order to promote innovation and new ideas. >So, they instituted a policy of granting 17-year monopolies to >"inventors" so they could build a manufacturing base from which >to compete and deliver product. In this way, "inventors" could >make a go of business and become entrepreneurs. With software, >no such manufacturing base is needed (inventors just have >someone manufacture and publish for them). Even manufacturing >can be fully automated and out-sourced today. >In the 1700's and for sometime thereafter, compromising free >competition (through 17-year monopolies) to promote innovation >may have been a prudent trade-off. For example, industry has >innovated tremendously and experienced revolutionary industrial >growth (i.e., the industrial revolution). The hack of patents >promoting innovation artificially seems to have worked. [stuff deleted] >In summary, times change, and priorities change. Innovation is >no longer the dire need it once was. Free competition and >quality are. >Patents compromise free market competition (since they are >non-market-based 17-year artificial monopolies). They always >did, but there didn't used be an agile, global market to >compromise. Now there is. >Patents compromise quality. No single manufacturer (e.g., >software developer) will naturally produce better quality without >healthy competition. [Actually, this is a new (but important) >topic (and not just summary). Fairly obvious point though, I >believe.] Ultimately, customers lose with patents today. >>If patents were given out on truly >>novel, innovative and original discoveries, as they were meant to, >>would you still object? >As you may have guessed, yes! :-) So, you don't think that patents have anything to do with protecting the rights of the inventor? If someone wants to go make a billion dollars off of some great idea, you don't think the person who CREATED the idea should get some piece of it? or be guaranteed to get a piece of it? You think your "rights" to copy software are more important than the person who is actually creating something new? Whether the patent system is broken or not, I'd rather have one than not. I'd like to know that if I create some new way of making something, or something truely new, that *I* will in some way reap some bennefit/reward for my work. I don't think anyone but me has the right to determine how my inventions will be used. Perhaps you'd feel differently if someone out there was a billionare who never had to work another day in their life, nor would their children, nor children's-children, ever have to *worry* about being without food, because they had stolen some idea of yours.. while you're still working a dollar-a-day job until you might be able to afford to retire someday. Maybe not. Money isn't everything, and I don't mean to come across as though it is. On the otherhand, I'm clearly not one of those people who believe that once a piece of software exists, it's the right of every other computer user in the world to have a free copy of it and/or it's source. If the world were ideal, and no one ever stole ideas, or we all got everything we wanted and/or needed free, then maybe we wouldn't need patents or software copyrights. But until that happens, SOMETHING needs to guarantee the rights of the developer/inventor. Maybe patents suck. Better than nothing at all. And infinitely better than GNU's copyleft (you notice it's not coloqually known as something that protects the writers RIGHTS). IM(NS)HO John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Date: 10 Jul 1994 17:33:55 GMT Organization: Portland State University Message-ID: <MARCUS.94Jul10103355@tdb.ee.pdx.edu> References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu> <jgraceCsooE6.49x@netcom.com> <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> In-reply-to: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu's message of 10 Jul 1994 01:54:22 -0400 >>>>> "John" == John <gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu> writes: In article <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) writes: John> or we all got everything we wanted John> and/or needed free, then maybe we wouldn't need patents or John> software copyrights. The goal of the GPL is to make this possible.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Message-ID: <jgraceCsqzwq.7tA@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu> <jgraceCsooE6.49x@netcom.com> <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 23:29:13 GMT In article <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu>, John <gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu> wrote: >jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) writes: > > >Patents in general are a hack, originally to even out the playing > >field for up-and-coming manufacturers. In the 1700's, the world > >was quite a different place: no industrial revolution, no global > >marketplace, ..., and a need for innovation. Our forefathers > >made the decision to trade-off "fair trade" for "innovation". In > >other words, someone decided to compromise free competition in > >order to promote innovation and new ideas. > > [Chomp] > > Whether the patent system is broken or not, I'd rather have >one than not. I'd like to know that if I create some new way >of making something, or something truely new, that *I* will in >some way reap some bennefit/reward for my work. I don't think >anyone but me has the right to determine how my inventions will >be used. Yes, precisely. If you invent something, wouldn't you like to be able to build a business (or whatever) on it? I thought so. Patents compromise your right by granting (arbitrarily by the USPTO) a monopoly to just one person. That means: everyone with the idea (whether they had it first or not) who didn't get the patent is prohibited from benefitting from it until the 17 years are expired. If you are not that person (e.g., you didn't think the idea patent-worthy or, even, patent'able), you're SOL. Indeed, everyone except the patent-holder is SOL. In today's world, patents compromise inventors' freedom. Cheers, = Joe =
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Any comments on using Gateway 2000 machines? Message-ID: <1994Jul11.002346.5133@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 00:23:46 GMT Anyone have any experience running Gateway 2000 machines with NEXTSTEP? -- Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com --- There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'.
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on portables with over 640 * 480 resolution Date: 10 Jul 1994 23:38:54 GMT Organization: Artificial Life Project - Reed College, Portland OR USA Message-ID: <2vq0qe$lgl@scratchy.reed.edu> References: <1994Jul7.155045.9663@pcp.ca> <2vhf7t$k3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> In article <2vhf7t$k3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu>, Kristopher Jon Magnusson <kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu> wrote: >Good luck. As far as I know, no Intel-based notebook supports resolutions >greater than 640 x 480. I've heard rumors that NEC is working on a notebook >with greater resolution, but they have not yet announced any products. > >If I were buying a notebook, I'd wait to see what NeXT comes up with for >SPARC hardware. The Tadpole SPARCbook 2 and the Sun Voyager look like >good candidates for NEXTSTEP running in 8-bit color at greater resolutions. >Save your pennies, though, as both cost a ton of simoleans. If money is not an object, the Toshiba SPARC XT laptop (i.e. not a notebook) is a portable SPARC 10 with a huge active matrix color screen. I think it is 1280x1024, but it might be 11??x900. I saw one at a conference this week, and it was stunning (in both speed and display) for presentations. </Robert> -- Robert Seymour rseymour@reed.edu Reed College Artificial Life Project NeXTmail, MIME, PGP accepted Software Development Laboratory Public Key (PGP) by request UNIX, X, NeXTSTEP, Macintosh Programmer Physics Building Office P24
From: dirk@amg.de (Dirk Mimberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: JPEG request causes ImageServer Stop Date: 11 Jul 1994 11:46:50 GMT Organization: AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH Message-ID: <2vrbfaINN8rl@hagen.amg.de> Keywords: jpeg, imageserver I have the problem that trying to display a JPEG Image sometimes causes Imageserver to stop on NSfIP 3.2. If you select the file in WM and try to show the content, you wait a long time and then receive a black image. Console shows: > Jul 10 16:07:34 vme14 WM[197]: Image server went away; can't complete JPEG request > The Configuration is a DX2/66 VLB and a ATI Ultra Pro graphics adapter. tiffutil -info of such a file shows > Directory at 0xa7ea > Image Width: 428 Image Length: 396 > Tile Width: 432 Tile Length: 400 > Resolution: 72, 72 > Resolution Unit: pixels/inch > Bits/Sample: 8 > Compression Scheme: JPEG encoding > Photometric Interpretation: RGB color > YCbCr Subsampling: 2, 2 > YCbCr Coefficients: 0.299, 0.587, 0.114 > JPEG Processing Mode: baseline sequential algorithm > JPEG Quantization Tables: (present) > JPEG DC Tables: (present) > JPEG AC Tables: (present) > Samples/Pixel: 3 > Number of Tiles: 1 > Planar Configuration: Not planar > Reference Black/White: 16, 235 , 128, 240 , 128, 240 > When I then try to display another jpeg-tiff-file, ImageServer is started again and works fine. The problem is that most of the times the those files can be displayed without problems. Are there any ideas which can solve this problem? Any help and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Dirk --- Dirk Mimberg (dirk@amg.de) AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.nextsysadmin From: Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (Alex Nghiem) Subject: MO drives info Message-ID: <1994Jul11.154814.11889@pcp.ca> Keywords: MO, drives Sender: news@pcp.ca Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:48:14 GMT Hello there: A couple of weeks ago, I posted a query for some info on magnetic optical drives (I wasn't interested in the one that's bundled with the cube). I received a lot of replies and they are summarized as follows: 1. The Ocean drive seems to be the best deal. For $899, you can an entire subsystem (with a 256MB floppy) that's been verified to work on the black and white hardware (SCSI and running NS). In fact, some people reported that they have even exchanged data between the two platforms. They have a very friendly and knowledgeable sale staff. For more information, contact them at (800) 944-6232. DISCLAIMER: I don't work for these folks. I just thought they carried a good product - this seems to be echoed by the folks on the net. 2. The new Tahoe 230 by Pinnacle Micro - many people on the net have complained that this new drive does not work with the black hardware and nobody could verify whether it works with the white hardware. This is quite interesting since their previous model (the 128MB drive, which is now discontinued) worked with both platforms. Additionally, various posters have warned me that any drive based on the Fujitsu dynamo mechanism would probably not work on black hardware - the 230 is based on such a mechanism. On a related note, interested parties should check out an article in the July 1994 issue of PC World - it includes very detailed reviews of various forms of backup media including the aforementioned drives. Thanks for all the help! Alex Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (until July 22nd) alex@oolesson.com (always)
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone know about Ann Weintz, author of the 1st NeXTSTEP book? Date: 11 Jul 1994 16:56:20 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vrtjk$p3g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Howdy! I've been asked if i'm related to Ann Weintz, author of "Writing NeXT Programs - An Introduction to NeXTStep". From my research i think not, which is weird 'cause my surname is very uncommon. Anyone with info is invited to steer it my way. Thanks! -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others "They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews) Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Message-ID: <Css28L.EzH@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <2vjoqp$fe2@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:17:11 GMT In article <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) writes: >Joseph Grace (jgrace@netcom.com) wrote: ... >: Software patents are heinous (one form of adulterated unfair >: competition, the big-brother granted monopoly) and so is unfair >: downstream competition (e.g., sole-source competition). One >: relies on governmental (big brother), the other on competitive >: monopolies (actually, the goverment is a competitive monopoly >: which simply meddles with market forces through its USPTO). Both >: provide for unfair "competition" (i.e., monopolies), but the two >: are not the same. > >I'm not one to cry the virtues of software patents, but without them >the industry wouldn't move because nobody would be willing to spend R&D >without recouping losses. This is demonstrably false. Software patents are a very recent "invention", and the industry moved at quite a good pace before they came into existence and furthermore, there is nothing that I'm aware of to suggest that anyone would slow down in their absence. Please name a single "invention" that has a software patent that you believe wouldn't have come into existence in the absence of belief in software patents. Xor cursors? Backing stores? Appropriate spreadsheet recalcs? cryptography? The work done at Xerox PARC? It's as ludicrous as claiming that nobody would farm in the absence of farming price supports. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
From: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Date: 11 Jul 1994 17:58:31 GMT Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, NCD Message-ID: <2vs187$86h@lll-winken.llnl.gov> References: <jgraceCsooE6.49x@netcom.com> Joseph Grace writes > the patent system has done its job and outlived its usefulness. No! Patents are still useful in industries such as the pharmaceutical industry, where developing a new product takes hundreds of millions of dollars and competitors could manufacture the resulting drug cheaply. R&D would not exist in that industry (and others) if not for patent protection. However, > [the patent system] is now impairing the very thing it meant to > promote: innovation. This is true in the software industry, where many solutions that any decent programmer could think of within 30 seconds of being presented with a new problem are patented. Patents are essential for some industries, but, IMHO, no software running on a general-purpose computer should be in violation of patent law (although this is not the case under current law). However, software _should_ be protected by copyright law. --Glenn Brown
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Old NextAnswers contained inside new? Date: 11 Jul 1994 18:03:56 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vs1ic$ddm@hub.ucsb.edu> I just downloaded the entire 18 Mb compressed NextAnswers from ftp.next.com, to peruse at my leasure...but... is the original format of NextAnswers, i.e., individual text and rtf files on a multitude of topics, for use with DL, contained somewhere within this thing, or has that format been discontinued? Also, is the FAQ dir in this thing that same as the posted FAQ that comes out every so often? Thanks for any illumination. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau) Subject: ISO 8859-1 and NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1994Jul11.153920.29873@planon.qc.ca> Sender: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:39:20 GMT The ISO 8859-1 standard is becoming more common on the net. That standard provide a common way to exchange messaging containing 8-bit characters, giving a common ground to encode letters with accents or other diacretical marks. Exchanging messages in plain English between different machine is easy. The 127 first characters of the ASCII code are standard among all machines. (Yes I know about EBCDIC...). Non-English netters have a lot of problem when they want to exchange messages in French, German, Spanish, etc. Almost all machines use characters 128 to 255 to encode letters with accents BUT in a different way from machine to machine. That means you need some conversion program to send a message from a DOS machine to a X-Windows machine or from a Mac machine to a NeXTSTEP machine. The International Standard Organisation (ISO) has established a standard to encode characters above the basic ASCII 7 bit characters set. It use 8 bit and can be described by the ISO 8859 standard. That standard is divided in sub-standards and ISO 8859-1 is suitable for almost all latin alphabet languages, including English, French, Spanish, Germand, Flemish etc. When I have asked the question to NeXT about the 8859-1 support, someone answer me that will be supported in the new version of NeXTMAIL under the MIME format. That is an intersting and important step but I would like to urge NeXT to support the ISO 8859-1 in plain UNIX mail as well (for reading is a minimum for both read and write would be preferable). The next issue is NEWSGRAZER. That software strip any accentuated letter when I send a new message and does not translate the ISO 8859-1 to the NeXT character set for incoming message, giving a very ugly representation (each accentuated character is replaced by another that does not relate). I have sent an E-mail to Jason Adam from Millenium Software. Jason was the author of NewsGrazer when he worked at Next and his new company, Millenium Software announced some time ago NewsGrazer Pro as a commercial software. Since the current NeXT product lacks support of ISO 8859-1 standard, I wanted to convince him to support that standard in the new enhanced version of NG. He answered me that the NG Pro project has been postponed due to the release of NG in MAB format by NeXT. So, despite that NeXT has made a clear statement that they don't support NewsGrazer, I would like to ask them to enhance it by supporting the ISO-8859-1 standard to allow the exchange of news in any latin language witout making the sacrifice of accentuated letters. In the mean time, I think NeXT should revise its policy about the NG source code. I think that policy to not release source code was fair to protect Jason Adams and Millenum Software as long as they had plan to release a commercial product intended to replace NG. It is not the role of NeXT (nor Apple, nor Microsoft) to have software that compete its own commercial developpers. But if Jason Adams and Millenum give up NewGrazer Pro, that could be a good reason to releave NeXT from its obligation to protect that market and make NG a base for other developper to put on the market new enhanced products. By the way, a new product is about to be released and is capable to handle news. It is OmniWeb. The problem with OmniWeb and many other terminal based product is that they need NNTP server. What I like the much with NG is its capability to use NFS and the file system to retreive news directly from /usr/spool/news. OmniWeb and the other products rely too much on permanent Internet connection and forget the fact that most of us are connected with things like uucp. Thank you. Yanik -- Yanik Crepeau OUI a soc.culture.quebec Programmer Planon Telexpertise E-Mail: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pelletk@il.us.swissbank.com (Ken Pelletier) Subject: Re: Anyone know about Ann Weintz, author of the 1st NeXTSTEP book? Message-ID: <1994Jul11.184743.28669@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <2vrtjk$p3g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 18:47:43 GMT Steve Weintz writes > Howdy! > I've been asked if i'm related to Ann Weintz, author of "Writing NeXT Programs - An > Introduction to NeXTStep". From my research i think not, which is weird 'cause my > surname is very uncommon. Anyone with info is invited to steer it my way. > Thanks! > > -- > -- > Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop The word on the street (read: unsubstantiated information from a very reliable source) is that there is no Ann Weintz. That's a pseudonym for someone who wanted to remain anonymous for legal reasons - that's how it was told to me, anyway. I could never pry the rest of the story out of my source, though. My source told me that he knows "Ann Weintz" personally, and that she's a he. The author of that book has reason enough to want to remain nameless, given the quality of the result. I've sometimes wondered if it was a disgruntled ex-NeXT employee who wanted to sabotage the efforts of budding NEXTSTEP developers. ;-) - Ken PS - I've often wondered if you, Steve, were the mystery person. Now you can be taken off the hot list... unless this is a smoke screen :-) My opinions, naturally.
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Assembly programming on the NeXT computer Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:09:59 GMT Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Message-ID: <2vs5e7$p9r@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Hello everyone, I've been learing to use assembly programming on the NeXT '040, but I've come up with a literature snag. I've read through the doc's that are online, also I have Motorola's M68000 family literature. What I need are text books specifically for the MC680x0 line (preferably '040). However, most of the books I've found are for the Intel x86 family. The one, maybe two books I've found were for the Macintosh -- a little helpful, but not much. Also, I've been using a lot of 6502 programming books to get me through ... but I need more, who doesn't :). Anyway, I'f you have any leads to what I need -- text, internet code archives, etc. please let me know! Thanks in advance,
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c? Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:52:42 GMT Message-ID: <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP. Intel DX4-75 processor with 16KB internal cache and intergrated math coprocessor. Expandable to 36 MB RAM 10.4" Color TFT LCD 540 MB Removable hard drive I would also like to hear about any comments or experiences about running NeXTSTEP on a notebook...as I am deciding on whether to purchase an Apple PowerBook 540c, IBM ThinkPad 755c, or NEC Versa 75EC. -Rob Wilson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: Anyone know about Ann Weintz, author of the 1st NeXTSTEP book? Message-ID: <CssM9L.JtC@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <2vrtjk$p3g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:30:24 GMT Steve Weintz (indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : Howdy! : I've been asked if i'm related to Ann Weintz, author of "Writing NeXT Programs - An : Introduction to NeXTStep". From my research i think not, which is weird 'cause my : surname is very uncommon. Anyone with info is invited to steer it my way. : Thanks! Tony Duarte's wife's maiden name. (He's ex-next, a couple times now...) peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@cfa.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Need UK/London favor... Message-ID: <CssMs7.K8w@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:41:31 GMT I need to do a demo later this week (either thursday or friday) which requires a fax modem on a NS box preferably in London. (which part of London doesn't seem to matter.) Live net access preferred due to the timeliness of the demo. The demo requires some non-obtrusive, system configuration and will generate a light intermitent load on the host (for the faxing). Compenstation is offered, you are free to examine all source. Please email me if you have some time to install the scripts on Wednesday or Thursday and could help out. peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@cfa.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.shell From: emurphy@cs.uno.edu (Edward Murphy) Subject: A problem with tcsh and NeXTstep 2.1 Message-ID: <1994Jul11.204721.13989@cs.uno.edu> Sender: news@cs.uno.edu Organization: University of New Orleans Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:47:21 GMT Hello. My default shell is tcsh. When I telnet to a NeXT I am able to log in and everything is fine. When I rlogin to the same NeXT, my login hangs before it even executes the .cshrc file. I have studied the man pages for rlogin, rlogind, telnet, and tcsh, but have not found anything which is might suggest a solution for this problem. Does anyone have any ideas about this problem? -em P.S. A process listing of a system where I have a hung login process shows that process to be in a "runnable" state. Would this mean that it is waiting for an event? --- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Edward Murphy = "Well, it's one louder isn't it? = = Assistant System Manager = -- Nigel Tufnel, Spinal Tap = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) Subject: Any FTP site for Stuart? Message-ID: <Csso0L.5Ly@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 21:07:33 GMT I'm looking for an ftp site that carries Stuart 2.x that'll work on an Intel box. I got the 2.4 version from ftp.cs.orst.edu, but it's apparently only compiled for MC68000. BTW, is there source for this app, or is it shareware? Thnx for any info, tom -- +------------------------------------------+ | Thomas Wolf | (908) 957-3955 |...Still can't think of anything | Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@merlin.mt.att.com | original to put in my sig... | MT 4D-213 | wolf@jolt.mt.att.com |...So this valuable real-estate +------------------------------------------+ is for sale... Disclaimer: These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: YOW! NA.compressed produces hundreds of "@@MaNgLeD.xx" files! Date: 11 Jul 1994 21:58:09 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <2vsf9h$n6p@hub.ucsb.edu> Has anyone else had problems with the compressed complete NextAnswers from the ftp.next.com site? I decompressed it twice, and both times the filenames of several hundred files were turned into files of the form @@MaNgLeD.XXX, where XXX is an ascending series of numbers. Is this due to a problem with long filenames?? I thought gnutar had fixed that problem. Thanks in advance. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Date: 11 Jul 1994 21:45:07 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Hi Fellows ! I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through info@ciusa.com Do you know if they are still alive ? Best regards, - Eric Opinion expressed is my own ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric@ks.uiuc.edu NeXT sys. admin. (NeXTMail welcome !) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Beckman Institute Theoretical Biophysics 405 N. Mathews Ave. Urbana, IL 61801, USA Tel: (217) 244-1851 Fax: (217) 244-6078 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: file transfers Message-ID: <1994Jul11.214341.19415@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <2vj6l7$d6d@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 21:43:41 GMT In article <2vj6l7$d6d@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) writes: > > I am trying to determine the best way to transfer files > between myself and a friend. I am using NEXTSTEP 3.2 and > can connect to the internet directly or by modem. My friend > is using MSDOS/Windows and uses a modem to connect to > Compuserve. > > The files that we need to send are about 1MB large. Some > are Postscript and some are AutoCad .dwg files (binary). > They are too large for Compuserve to handle by email and > my friend does not have ftp capability. > > Is there a way for us to send them directly to each other > without using the internet, or is there a better way to > transfer them? > Greg, you want to use a couple of unix command tools. see the following man pages: split(1) uuencode(1C) You'll need uuencode only for the binaries. brad -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: frank@fnbc.com (Frank Mitchell) Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (MORE) Message-ID: <1994Jul11.184514.13625@fnbc.com> Sender: news@fnbc.com Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA References: <1994Jul9.072125.23980@bMD.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:45:14 GMT In article <1994Jul9.072125.23980@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes: > In article <Ii7OQhq00iV8M4ya9q@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger > <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 8-Jul-94 Re: You know who you > > are bu.. by Janna Ore Nugent@reliant > > > Egads!!! Not FEMALES!!! No telling what they were thinking... > > > > Well, what word was he supposed to use? Webster's says: > > > > female n > > syn WOMAN 1, babe, broad, dame, doll, gal, girl, lady, she, skirt > > From the looks of the choices. I would have to say they were the > following [ WOMAN||babe||broad||dame||doll||gal||girl|lady ] You forgot Gyno-American. To quote Dave Barry, I'm not making this up. -- Frank Mitchell email(work): frank@fnbc.com (NeXTmail) (home): frank@gagme.chi.il.us
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: YOW! NA.compressed produces hundreds of "@@MaNgLeD.xx" files! Date: 11 Jul 1994 23:51:02 GMT Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Message-ID: <2vslt6$cav@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: <2vsf9h$n6p@hub.ucsb.edu> In article <2vsf9h$n6p@hub.ucsb.edu>, Douglas Scott <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu> wrote: >Has anyone else had problems with the compressed complete NextAnswers from the >ftp.next.com site? I decompressed it twice, and both times the filenames of >several hundred files were turned into files of the form @@MaNgLeD.XXX, where >XXX is an ascending series of numbers. > >Is this due to a problem with long filenames?? I thought gnutar had fixed >that problem. > >Thanks in advance. Yes, GNUtar does use @@MaNgLeD.XXX for long filenames. The only thing that I can think of is that maybe you *aren't* using gnutar. Double check what tar executable you are running, eg sym links. FYI ... I just downloaded and unpacked NA.compressed two days ago and used gnutar version 1.10. I am running 3.0, so I had to build gnutar ... Good Luck, joel belog
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Message-ID: <jgraceCssvFt.7p0@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <jgraceCsooE6.49x@netcom.com> <2vs187$86h@lll-winken.llnl.gov> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 23:47:51 GMT Glenn, >However, software _should_ be protected by copyright law. I agree with you that software patents are destructive and that copyrights are constructive. In article <2vs187$86h@lll-winken.llnl.gov>, Glenn Brown <gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu> wrote: >Joseph Grace writes >> the patent system has done its job and outlived its usefulness. > >No! Patents are still useful in industries such as the pharmaceutical >industry, where developing a new product takes hundreds of millions of >dollars and competitors could manufacture the resulting drug cheaply. "[D]eveloping a new [pharmaceutical] product" need not take "hundreds of millions of dollars". Perhaps some do, but that's a management choice, not a general product "requirement". In other words, regardless of what the pharmaceutical industry chooses to do, patents do not resolve any general pharmaceutical industry requirement. >R&D >would not exist in that industry (and others) if not for patent >protection. If that's your point, I disagree. Clearly, R&D would continue; perhaps to a different degree, but they would continue. And, if your point is that R&D expenditures might be reduced,... First of all, I would consider that a favorable outcome. From my perspective, the pharmaceutical industry seems to have lost control of its costs. This mismanagement is somewhat understandable, though, since members of the industry are in search of elusive, gold-mine patent monopolies. But, in so doing, I feel they are often acting in bad faith with respect to the public needs for cost-effective health care. Second of all, your example is not as simple as it, at first, appears. What about the *other* companies that spent "hundreds of millions of dollars" on research related to the idea being patented, but were prohibited from using their own research due to the patent? Third of all, I don't believe the reverse-engineering and manufacturing issue is quite so simple either. Coca-cola relies on proprietary secrets to protect their Coca-cola formulation. They have succeeded quite well beyond 17 years without no stinkin' patent. Fourth, I find it ironic that the pharmaceutical industry stands idly by as a multitude of unique flora go extinct worldwide each year without being researched. These species are sources of "free" (relative to your example), natural research. What competitive advantage does man-made research have over these "free" sources of research, other than patentability? I am not so sure the pharmaceuticals are as interested in solving the sources of health problems naturally and effectively as they are in merely addressing symptoms with artificial (patentable) medications. So, yes, I agree that patents have something to do with the pharmaceutical industry's infatuation with exorbitant R&D development costs. However, I differ with you on the general value of such endeavors. Bottom line: if someone wants to start a business (or, as you suggest, research and develop a drug) for "hundreds of millions of dollars", let them. However, don't grant them a monopoly prohibiting anyone else from doing (or benefitting from having already done) similar research and development. And don't grant the USPTO the power to usurp control from the consumer to decide which of these companies deserves their business. Cheers, = Joe = p.s., NB: this post does not even address the problems in implementation of the patent system, e.g., race conditions, submarine patents, legal issues, etc..
Control: cancel <jgraceCsstG9.3F9@netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: cancel Message-ID: <jgraceCssu7n.6w6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 23:21:22 GMT <jgraceCsstG9.3F9@netcom.com> was cancelled from within trn.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.prgrammer,comp.sys.next.misc From: jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Patrick Stein (Jolly)) Subject: SOLUTION: OpenStep.ps on NON-NeXTprinter Message-ID: <CssvFr.B1G@netnews.asu.edu> Sender: jolly@user@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Patrick Stein (Jolly)) Organization: CIS, University of Munich Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 16:47:51 MST The OpenStep documentation postscript file uses Fonts that are not always included in your printer. If the word 'SPECIFICATION' on the first page is scrambled to 'SPE***ION' you may use this little perl script. use is : change.pl <OpenStep.ps >Open2.ps -------------------------cut here #!/usr/local/bin/perl # author : jolly - who else ? # purpose: change Openstep.ps for Printers without all Fonts # version: 1.00.1 while(<>) { s/\\\)/JOLLY/; if(/^\(\d+-\d+\)\s(\S+) 643.667 T$/) { s/643.667 T/652.000 T/ if $1>100 ; } $last=$now; $now=$_; $_=$last; if(/^\S+([^\(]+).* ashow$/) { $offset=$1; $_=$now; if( (/^\S+([^\(]+)\(([^\)]+).* ashow$/) && ( $offset==$1 ) ) { $sub=$2; $_=$last; s/\((.*)\) ashow/\($1$sub\) ashow/; $now=$_; undef $last; } } else { if( (/^\(([^\)]+)\) \S*(.*) T/) && ($1 ne ' ') ) { $offset=$2; $_=$now; if( (/^\(([^\)]+)\) \S*(.*) T/) && ($offset==$2)) { $sub=$1; $_=$last; s/\((.*)\)/\($1$sub\)/; $now=$_; undef $last; } } } $_=$last; s/JOLLY/\\\)/; print "$_" if $last ; } print "$last\n"; -------------------------cut here -- so long - jolly ======================================================= Jolly alias Patrick Stein = jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de Tel: ++49 +89 -211 06 70 (priv) +89 -950 57 34 " It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does? " - gaff =======================================================
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Jeremy Bussard please read Date: 12 Jul 1994 01:31:24 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2vsrpc$i7d@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <2vo0q7$t1c@news.duke.edu> In article <2vo0q7$t1c@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > Jeremy-- > > I'm trying to send you e-mail with comments on Tetris 3.1 but it keeps > bouncing saying "User unknown". The address I'm using is the one you > used to write me a few months ago. Are you still there? Please e-mail me. > > All you other folks reading this, shame on you! Jeremy is not the Mystery > Man! : Damn, caught me... ;-) -- Paul M. Cardon President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager Math Department - Brigham Young University Member of the Open Buzzword Foundation (OBF) Standards Committee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Subject: Help! Sendmail (I think) is broken Message-ID: <Cst4Cv.Ho@ants.ci.net> Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 03:00:29 GMT Hi All, For some reason, unknown to me, my Nextstation (runing NS 3.0) will no longer send my incoming mail to the appropriate files in /usr/spool/mail, but instead sends them to /usr/spool/mqueue. I use UUCP, and the mail doesn't bounce, but it no longer goes where it needs to. I'm not aware of haivng changed anything to cause this. If this is a problem that sounds familiar, please reply to me at jmeacham@shore.net. THanks in advance. Peace, James --- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate Andover Newton Theological School e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net 7 Flint Road Phone: 617-926-6024 Watertown, MA 02172 NeXTMAIL accepted Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116 (Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730 _____________________________________________________________________ -- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTWorld still amazes me! Date: 11 Jul 1994 22:50:13 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9407120350.AA07134@cantina.lanl.gov> Last January, on complaining to the Subscription Fulfillment People about all the missing issues, I said to the lady, "And now NeXTWorld wants me to renew my subscription! Well, I won't do that until the back issues you've promised me and the last issue I am due arrive, OK?" She said, "OK." And they all arrived, so I renewed my subscription. THEN they announced they were closing up shop. "Goodbye, $29.95", I thought. Today I received a check for $29.95 from the NeXTWorld Refund Account! Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: dglynn@ncsa.uiuc.edu (David Glynn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c? Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 00:15:15 Organization: VSC Software Message-ID: <dglynn.10.0000411E@ncsa.uiuc.edu> References: <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> In article <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) writes: >From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)>Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c? >Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:52:42 GMT >I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and >it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP. >I would also like to hear about any comments or experiences about running >NeXTSTEP on a notebook...as I am deciding on whether to purchase an Apple >PowerBook 540c, IBM ThinkPad 755c, or NEC Versa 75EC. >-Rob Wilson Buy the Mac. If you are even considering running NeXTStep on a laptop, please, buy the Mac. It's built for the Mac OS, and while I am sure you can get NeXTStep running on th IBM, you won't be happy. If it was OS/2, or Windows you were shooting for, OK, 755-ho! But you won't forgive the compromises the display will force you into on the 755 with NS, whereas you will live with what you get from the Mac. I just don't wanna see someone in 6 months calling that 755 "unacceptable" because they chose the wrong OS for that machine.... <BG> DGG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch). Message-ID: <CstADs.6KD@fragile.termfrost.org> Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH References: <2uvibq$hg6@alf.uib.no> <2v6vqi$a6v@runner.uucp> <2vafgd$gst@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 05:10:39 GMT sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) writes: >: : My original NeXT mouse just died (and I noticed how it is just about >: : _impossible_ to use a NeXT without a mouse...shorting the switch >: : manually everytime I needed a 'click') and I need either: >: : a. a new NeXT mouse. >: : b. a used NeXT mouse >: : c. a microswitch (the factory one is: 1668RAE D2F-01, made by Omron, Japan) >: : d. suggestions (maybe other third party mice will work?) >If you like, you can rip one out of most older Logitech mice. Can't say if Actually, you can use a Logitech BUS mouse off of a PC directly... no point in ripping spare switches out. I have a Logitech Bus Mouseman on my non-ADB black slab and it works wonderfully, and feels much better than the NeXT mouse anyway. You'll have to slice off the 9-pin mini-DIN plug that comes with it and stick an 8-pin one on. I took an Apple Imagewriter cable and cut it in half. The pinouts have been posted, and I'm not at my console right now, so mail me if you want the bus mouse pinouts and I'll NeXTmail the .ps and .rtf versions to ya. I've been told Amiga and Atari ST rodents and trackballs will work too, but I know PC _serial_ mice won't. -- Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@wittenberg.edu "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies) Subject: Re: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Message-ID: <CssLpJ.KG@gurke.ping.de> Sender: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin) Organization: Legalize THC References: <2vht3c$gaf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:17:41 GMT In article <2vht3c$gaf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes: > In article <CsL2B6.MKM@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris > Saldanha) writes: > .. > > Get MetroSuction from ftp.cs.orst.edu. > > > > It claims to do it, but I have never tried, myself. > > I have tried. It works. I have tried it as well -- but it doesn't work! MetroSuction just gives me an error. Maybe I have an old version of MetroSuction.. I use Version 1.1 -- <--------------------------------------------------------------> | Constantin Szallies ||| tini@gurke.ping.de | | Emil Figge 7 44227 Dortmund (o o) Tel: 0231/7519681 | <------------------------------oOo--(_)--oOo------------------->
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews) Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Message-ID: <CsstJy.3F2@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <jgraceCsn4ML.42G@netcom.com> <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 23:07:12 GMT In article <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu writes: >In article <2vkk7o$q3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu>, >sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) wrote: >> Stac won the battle but may have lost the war. Expect 'em to join the >> unfair-competition FCC battle. > >Too bad MS bought 15% of Stac, settled, and licensed Stac's patents, >then, I guess. (They've made up.) > >> : Software patents are heinous (one form of adulterated unfair >> : competition, the big-brother granted monopoly) > >Software patents are only heinous and disgusting because the Patent >Office is incompetent and giving them out like parking tickets, >despite prior art, despite the simplicity of the patent (the XOR >cursor patent comes to mind). If patents were given out on truly >novel, innovative and original discoveries, as they were meant to, >would you still object? Rather than answer directly, let me ask another question: If patents *in mathematics* were given out on truly novel, innovative and original discoveries, ..., would you still object? >> I'm not one to cry the virtues of software patents, but without them >> the industry wouldn't move because nobody would be willing to spend R&D >> without recouping losses. The problem I have with them is that they are for >> much to long a time. 20 years? They won't even make the product by then. >> This indeed stifles the industry (Can we say RSA? :-) > >RSA is a poor example. Better examples are patents by small companies >that do not make a product and used solely to extort money from larger >companies who find it cheaper to pay than to contest the matter. How about a single good example. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Re: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Message-ID: <edewCstCrw.M2t@netcom.com> Sender: Eric Dew Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 06:02:20 GMT In article <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) writes: >Hi Fellows ! > >I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their >softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through >info@ciusa.com > >Do you know if they are still alive ? > >Best regards, > > - Eric >Opinion expressed is my own ! >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric@ks.uiuc.edu >NeXT sys. admin. (NeXTMail welcome !) >University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign >Beckman Institute Theoretical Biophysics >405 N. Mathews Ave. Urbana, IL 61801, USA >Tel: (217) 244-1851 Fax: (217) 244-6078 >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I called them just recently to purchase DateWise. They're still alive, but their only method of contact, it seems (besides s-mail) is the phone: 612-822-1604. I haven't yet received the app, but my credit card is debited for $45 from them... EDEW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: shwake@nearside.UUCP (Raymond Shwake) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on portables with over 640 * 480 resolution Message-ID: <shwake.773852316@nearside> Organization: IRS A/C (International) References: <1994Jul7.155045.9663@pcp.ca> <2vhf7t$k3b@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 14:58:36 GMT kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) writes: >Good luck. As far as I know, no Intel-based notebook supports resolutions >greater than 640 x 480. I've heard rumors that NEC is working on a notebook >with greater resolution, but they have not yet announced any products. A number of Intel-based notebooks *do*, in fact, support resolutions beyond 640x480, but only through the *external* monitor port. our original AT&T Safari, for example, will support 800x600, and even includes a Windows driver to support it. Some of the Texas Instruments support as high as 1024x768, but again only through the external port. I've long argued that higher LCD resolutions are long overdue, even if only gray scale. -- uunet!media!irscscm!nearside!shwake shwake@rsxtech
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <valmar!sas@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: <m0qNd0p-0001xwC@valmar> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 03:16 CDT From: sas@valmar.netcom.com (Shawn Alva Stone) Subject: IRC I know that this is more of a 'net related question than a NeXT realted one, but I would really like to find out how to get involved in IRC, and I figure some of you guys would know. Send private e-mail if you don't consider this an appropriate subject for posting. I just figured that, afer all, this is next-misc, and IRC is one of the miscellaneous activities that you can enjoy with your NeXT! Thanks in advance ofr any help, folks. --- Shalom! ______________________________ Shawn Stone, Fort Worth, TX email: sas@halite.uta.edu (NeXT mail welcome.) ______________________________ "Although golf was originally restricted to wealthy, over- weight Protestants, today it's open to anybody who owns hideous clothing." - Dave Barry
From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens Hoerup Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTTIME - Where do I get one? Date: 12 Jul 1994 12:23:31 GMT Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University Message-ID: <2vu203$epu@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> I have read about this and want to get a copy of NeXTTIME. Is there a demo available somewhere. How much is it, and where do I buy it? Thanks in advance Jens Hoerup Denmark jhj@dator.dk s
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops Date: 12 Jul 1994 09:00:02 -0400 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Message-ID: <2vu44i$q6f@oclc.org> References: <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> <dglynn.10.0000411E@ncsa.uiuc.edu> David Glynn (dglynn@ncsa.uiuc.edu) wrote: : In article <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) writes: : >I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and : >it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP. : ... and while I am sure you can : get NeXTStep running on th IBM, you won't be happy. I wouldn't even go that far - if the laptops use the same screwy proprietary IDE disk interface as the IBM ValuePoint line, you're in for trouble. I believe there's a NeXTanswers doc on the IBM VP problem. Robin -- Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (SOLVED) Date: 12 Jul 94 13:23:21 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.774019401@budlight> References: <2vht30$e7q@news.duke.edu> <1994Jul7.224035.2435@alw.nih.gov> smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov (Howard C. Smith) writes: >In article <2vht30$e7q@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) >writes: >> Okay, all you curious types-- >> >> I found out who the Mystery Man is. >> >> Just my luck, he's married. :-( :-( > ^^^^^^^ >around 5'8" - 5'11" or so. He is slim, clean-cut, no facial hair or > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> glasses. He has dark hair. He has one other identifying characteristic > ^^^^^^^^^ >Steve Jobs checking on developers drinking habits incognito? ROTFLBTC Thank you :-)))) Chris -- "I ride a tandem with the random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: "Wesley C. Smith" <wes@arissoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ISO 8859-1 and NeXTSTEP Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:20:52 GMT Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates Message-ID: <940712092052.17632AAABE.wes@arissoft> References: <1994Jul11.153920.29873@planon.qc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Eloquent (a NEXTSTEP e-mail/news program) supports ISO 8859-1 characters in e- mail and news messages. For more info about Eloquent send e-mail to eloquent_info@arissoft.com. Wesley C. Smith wes@arissoft.com MIME and NeXTmail ok Take Three P.O. Box 203852 (512) 837-9784 Austin, TX 78720-3852 (512) 837-8102 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.objective-c,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: Scott_Erin@pcp.ca (Erin Scott) Subject: Wanted: Objective-C Interpreter Message-ID: <1994Jul12.143647.22488@pcp.ca> Followup-To: comp.lang.objective-c Sender: news@pcp.ca Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 14:36:47 GMT Just wondering if anyone might have any information on an Objective-C Interpreter? We are looking into run-time path analysis. Any information would be greatly appreciated. --------------------- Scott_Erin@pcp.ca Erin Scott PanCanadian Petroleum Limited 150 - 9th Ave SW PO Box 2850 Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2P 2S5
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 12 Jul 1994 14:56:56 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <2vuavo$5na@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu> <jgraceCsooE6.49x@netcom.com> <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> <jgraceCsqzwq.7tA@netcom.com> Joseph Grace (jgrace@netcom.com) wrote: : Patents compromise your right by granting (arbitrarily by the : USPTO) a monopoly to just one person. That means: everyone with : the idea (whether they had it first or not) who didn't get the : patent is prohibited from benefitting from it until the 17 years : are expired. If you are not that person (e.g., you didn't think : the idea patent-worthy or, even, patent'able), you're SOL. : Indeed, everyone except the patent-holder is SOL. Carefull--believe it or not, that's my initials. :-) It's too utopian to say that Patents are Bad because they "compromise personal freedom". What freedom? I see nothing in the Bill of Rights that says we have the right to build anything we please. Patents are a necessary evil. With them, our "freedom" to build and sell whatever we want (hence to compete) is compromised. Without them, innovation is stigmied because you can't recoup your R&D losses. What's the point of spending all that time coming up with something if the competition (say, Masushita) duplicates your product with almost no effort, marches in, and markets you out of business? That being said, I think the patent pendulum has swung too much towards recouping and away from freedom. The central variable you can tweak in a patent to move it one way or another is the length of time the patent may be held. And for software, 20 years is too long. Heck, 5 years is too long. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: Marty Frongillo Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: saving messages questioin Date: 12 Jul 1994 14:50:34 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <2vuajr$hrk@transfer.stratus.com> After reading a mail message, I selected Services->Edit->Save-Message. This brings up Edit.app, with the text in RTF format. My edit preferences say to open new windows in plain-text. Is there any way to prevent this from happening. My Mail.app preferences state to use non-next mail by defauilt. -- Marty Frongillo (marty@sw.stratus.com)
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ISO 8859-1 and NeXTSTEP Date: 12 Jul 1994 10:23:24 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9407121523.AA07422@cantina.lanl.gov> Yanik Crepeau wrote > It is not the role of NeXT (nor Apple, nor Microsoft) to > have software that compete its own commercial developpers. > But if Jason Adams and Millenum give up NewGrazer Pro, > that could be a good reason to relieve NeXT from its > obligation to protect that market and make NG a base for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > other developer to put on the market new enhanced > products. From the way I read about it (in this News Group), it didn't look to me like NeXT was doing Jason any favors. Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch (Wolfgang Lerche) Subject: boot into single user mode on HP ? Message-ID: <Csu26y.G20@news.cern.ch> Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 15:11:21 GMT How do I boot into single user mode on a HP-712 with NeXTStep 3.2 ? bsd -s and variations don't seem to work.... Regards, W. Lerche
From: pja@attfield.ott.hookup.net (Phil Attfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: DOS scsi disk mounted on Black Date: 12 Jul 1994 17:13:01 GMT Organization: 42 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vuiut$jla@nic.ott.hookup.net> References: <2vio7e$123e@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> In article <2vio7e$123e@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu writes: |> Hello, |> |> Has anyone used black hardware to make a DOS formatted SCSI disk and |> then moved it to an intel machine and mounted the disk? |> I ran into similar problems with an IOMEGA Bernoulli (150M) disk. The 3.2 release notes claim that DOS format hard-disks are supported but this appears not to be the case. In order to read/write the SCSI/DOS format drive I had to resort to mtools (not pretty; but at least functional). Initially mtools did not work either; I found that the partition table had to be skipped in order for mtools to initialize properly. I am not sure what size (fixed/variable) DOS partition tables usually occupy but in this case it was 16384 bytes. I suspect that the DOS filesystem module doesn't know how to deal with partition tables and chokes when it doesn't find a file system at the beginning of the disk. With the 16384 offset in place mtools works satisfactorily... a mounted filesystem would be nicer though. FYI: the "h" partition of the raw device seems to be the only partition that works properly. Can anyone confirm the partition table size - does 3.2 understand this ?? -Phil -- pja@attfield.ott.hookup.net A old sage once asked: "why, when the trash is emptied on a Macintosh does the entire screen not go blank ?" My opinion does count!.
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sunergy broadcast [from comp.object] Date: 12 Jul 1994 17:54:45 GMT Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Message-ID: <2vuld5$ns4@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Hello all, I don't know if everyone reads comp.object, but I thought some of you would like to know ( -- i.e. could you tape this for me? :) ... sorry to those who believe this is a waste of bandwidth ... Reposted without permission. --- attached From dhoward@doffice.Corp.Sun.COM Tue Jul 12 13:49:21 EDT 1994 Article: 17888 of comp.object From: dhoward@doffice.Corp.Sun.COM (Dave Howard) Newsgroups: comp.object Subject: Object Broadcast - July 28 Date: 11 Jul 1994 23:49:40 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 82 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vslql$hdc@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> Reply-To: dhoward@doffice.Corp.Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: doffice.corp.sun.com ********************** ANNOUNCING ********************** ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^^^^^^^ ^ ^ ^ SUNERGY #10 ^ ^ LIVE/INTERACTIVE SATELLITE BROADCAST ^ ^ "A DISCUSSION OF OBJECT TECHNOLOGIES" ^ ^ Live from ObjectWorld, San Francisco ^ ^ JULY 28, 1994 ^ ^ 8:30 - 10:00 am PDT ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^^^^^^^ The need for a distributed, object-based application framework to dramatically reduce the cost of developing, using and managing enterprise applications is greater than ever. This is due to the complexities and costs associated with Software development, which has not kept pace with the powerful and cost effective hardware developments. In this live broadcast "SUNERGY #10" industry experts will take a look at Object Oriented Software Development, emerging new technologies that will enable creation of reusable software components that can be distributed and integrated into applications across the network and what the future holds in store for this promising technology. This exciting live broadcast will be viewed in over 40 countries. The panel of object computing experts will provide time for audience question and answer and will entertain questions from the worldwide audience via interactive satellite. Don't miss this opportunity to participate in lively discussion regarding the present and future usage of object technology in a variety of arenas. *** GUESTS *** JOHN GAGE (Host) - Director of the Science Office, Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation STEVE JOBS - Chairman and CEO, NeXT Computer, Inc. BILL JOY - Founder and Vice President of Research, Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation CHRIS STONE - President & CEO, Object Management Group, Inc. BUD TRIBBLE - Vice President of Object Products, SunSoft, Inc. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ IF YOU HAVE SATELLITE RECEIVE CAPABILITIES AND WOULD LIKE THE SATELLITE COORDINATES* FOR THIS BROADCAST, EMAIL THE SUNERGY OFFICE AT sunergy@sun.com or phone us at 415/336-5847 (*As coordinates can vary from broadcast to broadcast, please be sure to contact the Sunergy office for the coordinates specific to this broadcast if you are planning to downlink this show.) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sunergy information can now be accessed via Mosaic on the World Wide Web. Use the following URL: http://www.sun.com/sunergy/ Included are: - announcements of upcoming Sunergy satellite broadcasts - recaps of past broadcasts - past issues of the Sunergy electronic newsletter - a library of whitepapers (from past broadcasts) - reading lists (suggested readings from guests of the Sunergy broadcasts) -Sunergy enrollment and comment form
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: boot into single user mode on HP ? Date: 12 Jul 1994 15:31:40 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <18246.seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> To: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch On Tue, 12 Jul 1994 15:11:21 GMT, Wolfgang Lerche wrote: >How do I boot into single user mode >on a HP-712 with NeXTStep 3.2 ? >bsd -s and variations don't seem to work.... > >Regards, >W. Lerche Have you tried '-s' at the boot: prompt? -- Research and Development Team I'd LOVE NeXTMail, unfortunately Phoenix Project my computer has different ideas. SEINS plain-Text please!! seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca
Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle,comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Large Image Retrieval Databases Message-ID: <1994Jul12.181500.21843@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:15:00 GMT I have a project a client is interested in having developed which would use NEXTSTEP and Oracle to create a large image retrieval system. Several thousands of images in fact. If anyone would like to give me their comments and/or suggestions in this I would appreciate it. -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
From: ivo@hasc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Faster Mouse, Kill! Kill! Date: 12 Jul 1994 15:21:47 GMT Organization: Hutchison Avenue Software Message-ID: <2vuceb$c7t@giuliani.gun.com> Since graduating to a higher resolution PC, I find my mouse too slow - even in the fastest setting in Preferences. I've screwed around with the NeXT1 MouseScaling dwrite but I either haven't hit the right combination or that is the top speed. Does anyone have any idea how to speed up my mouse? (It's a bus mouse.) Thanks, -ivo ivo@hasc.ca Also, I vaguely remember seeing something here about a problem with disks over 1Gig. What was the problem and solution again?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Message-ID: <jgraceCsuEEL.EnC@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> <jgraceCsqzwq.7tA@netcom.com> <2vuavo$5na@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 19:35:08 GMT In article <2vuavo$5na@hamblin.math.byu.edu>, Sean O. Luke <sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu> wrote: >Joseph Grace (jgrace@netcom.com) wrote: > >: Patents compromise your right by granting (arbitrarily by the >: USPTO) a monopoly to just one person. That means: everyone with >: the idea (whether they had it first or not) who didn't get the >: patent is prohibited from benefitting from it until the 17 years >: are expired. If you are not that person (e.g., you didn't think >: the idea patent-worthy or, even, patent'able), you're SOL. >: Indeed, everyone except the patent-holder is SOL. > >Carefull--believe it or not, that's my initials. :-) Whoops! Sorry about that! (1/2 :-) >It's too utopian to say that Patents are Bad because they "compromise >personal freedom". What freedom? I see nothing in the Bill of Rights >that says we have the right to build anything we please. Actually, I think you may be confusing opposites. Patents have the utopian flavor of big-brother (USPTO) deciding who gets and who (the rest of us) doesn't get the monopoly. Free competition (i.e., no patents) embodies "natural" selection. As far as rights, I think reading my previous posts could clear up any confusion about whose rights are being stepped on. Briefly, think "right to pursue happiness" for starters. Also, the consumer "right" to buy from any provider (or create for oneself!!) is violated whenever a monopoly is granted. >Patents are a necessary evil. Well, at least you're candid. :-) Clearly, this assertion is untrue: life would go along quite merrily without patents, thank you. Again, please see my previous posts. Briefly, patents have *never* been necessary. They are totally artificial hacks which impinge on the groups's rights in order to promote innovation by individuals. Originally (e.g., in the 1700's), they may have been useful (even effective) but never "necessary". Today, they are neither necessary nor sufficient, and actually undermine the industrial growth they were originally designed to augment. In today's rapidly evolving world (as you suggest below), the patent hack becomes less effective. In fact, I suggest the patent system is actually counter-productive. It has degenerated, in today's environment, into a system which subsidizes the legal services industry at the direct expense of the patentable product industries. With patents today, the "cure" (i.e., issuance of patent monopolies) is worse than the "disease" (scarcity of invention). In other words, patents have metamorphosed from assets into liabilities. That's what I meant when I wrote that 'patents have outlived their usefulness'. >What's >the point of spending all that time coming up with something if the >competition (say, Masushita) duplicates your product with almost no >effort, marches in, and markets you out of business? Good question. It depends on what your goals are. :-) Seriously, that's why people write business plans. If you come up with an effective business plan, you "should" not have that problem. In reality, that's what business (and business risk) is all about. Hell, that's what everything anyone takes seriously is about: risk versus reward. Patents do not solve the business planning "risk versus reward" issue, even for patent-based endeavors. Instead, they simply add a new level of exposure, that of patent infringement. And that's exactly where patents become a problem. They increase risk for entrepreneurs by exposing them to an entirely new set of risks, those of "patent infringement" lawsuits. >That being said, I think the patent pendulum has swung too much towards >recouping and away from freedom. The central variable you can tweak in >a patent to move it one way or another is the length of time the patent >may be held. And for software, 20 years is too long. Heck, 5 years is >too long. Ahhh, :-). So, when 5 years is too long, is it time to apply the KISS ("Keep It Simple and Straightforward", i.e., Occam's razor) principle and just do away with patents? For example, what is the merit of having a USPTO take over a year to grant a patent if the patent is only good for a year from application? With patents, why compromise free competition and inventors's rights to innovate when the costs far outweigh the benefits? Why have a patent system at all when the same "patentable" ideas are being developed simultaneously by independent inventors? Why have a patent system at all when the patent descriptions are purposely obfuscated and over-generalized to prohibit developments which are even independent of the patent? The list of practical problems with patents goes on and on, but the above provides an initial taste. In other words, Sean, you have pinned the tail on the donkey! Long-term patents don't make sense. And short-term ones have lesser value, even to the receivers of them. The question then becomes, at what point do patents become relatively worthless and (euphemism alert :-) "overly" counter-productive. I suggest we have reached that point (by far) dating back to or before the USPTO granted its first software patent. I think if you take a closer look at the actual patent process (which I have consistently avoided exposing since it's such an absurd mess, i.e., hack gone wrong), you will understand why patents just don't make sense, even when abbreviated to under 5 years. Too many race conditions, gray areas, judgement calls, etc.. I think this discussion, about the software patent concept and the principles it violates, is the foremost key to the whole issue (otherwise, patent proponents just suggest that some patent process "improvements" are in order --- which is what the USPTO is doing now). If we, as a society, can understand why patents make no sense in principle, then I hope we can take the necessary steps to eliminate them entirely, rather than squandering social resources on a system which is both counter-productive and increasingly expensive (in both dollars and opportunity costs). Bottom line: the whole patent interference resolution system is a lawyer's (and USPTO's) heaven, but an entrepreneur's and, ultimately, a consumer's nightmare. As long as we have patents (i.e., software patents among others) the free competition score will be: Lawyers, USPTO, & Legacy Patent Holders 1 Entrepreneurs, Innovators, & Consumers 0. Cheers, = Joe =
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 12 Jul 1994 22:25:08 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <2vv584$7nq@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <Ii7CSQS00iUv88hRYZ@andrew.cmu.edu> <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> <jgraceCsuEEL.EnC@netcom.com> Joseph Grace (jgrace@netcom.com) wrote: : >What's : >the point of spending all that time coming up with something if the : >competition (say, Masushita) duplicates your product with almost no : >effort, marches in, and markets you out of business? : Good question. It depends on what your goals are. :-) : Seriously, that's why people write business plans. If you come : up with an effective business plan, you "should" not have that : problem. In reality, that's what business (and business risk) is : all about. Hell, that's what everything anyone takes seriously : is about: risk versus reward. Patents do not solve the business : planning "risk versus reward" issue, even for patent-based : endeavors. Well, I simply disagree with this--it's Libertarian to a fault. If it costs $5 million to develop a drug that could help people a lot, nobody's going to develop it because as soon as they do, there's nothing to stop Bristo-Meyer from marketing it at $.01 a shot to hospitals. There's no way to recoup losses. "Proper" business plans are nonsense--if there's no way to make money from innovation, innovation will suffer. : So, when 5 years is too long, is it time to apply the KISS ("Keep : It Simple and Straightforward", i.e., Occam's razor) principle : and just do away with patents? Because a software company can recoup its losses in 5 years, but not in 0. Patents are Good so long as they allow recouping of losses and little more. Beyond that, they become Evil. 20 years is long enough to stifle access to innovation. 0 years is short enough to stifle innovation itself. : In other words, Sean, you have pinned the tail on the donkey! : Long-term patents don't make sense. And short-term ones have : lesser value, even to the receivers of them. Nonsense. Short-term patents have greater value to us because they give us access to patented stuff in a shorter period. I really do feel your logic is flawed here. Personal freedom in everything is NOT necessarily a good thing. I'm not advocating the totalitarianism of a 20-year patent that RSA has, for example. But without patents we probably wouldn't even have the computer. : Lawyers, USPTO, & Legacy Patent Holders 1 : Entrepreneurs, Innovators, & Consumers 0. Well, getting rid of lawyers is a good thing. But that's another issue. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Date: 12 Jul 1994 22:34:54 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2vv5qe$uvt@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <CssLpJ.KG@gurke.ping.de> In article <CssLpJ.KG@gurke.ping.de> tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies) writes: > In article <2vht3c$gaf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> > peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes: . > > I have tried. It works. > I have tried it as well -- but it doesn't work! > MetroSuction just gives me an error. > Maybe I have an old version of MetroSuction.. I use Version 1.1 > -- Oops. You're right, it doesn't work. What I did was go into the app wrapper and thinned the binaries using lipo foo -thin m68k -output foo (on black hardware of course - use i386 on Intel machines). -- Peter Karbaliotis - University of Alberta - NeXTmail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mperry@netcom.com (Michael Perry) Subject: Re: How to set shell bkg color? Message-ID: <mperryCsupH8.IF3@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 23:34:20 GMT There is an answer: the new version of TipTop supports color in terminal windows. And yes, it is also a comm program. It is the best product I saw at the expo. Check it out! Note: the demo version is not full featured. Michael Perry mperry@netcom.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to remove hppa binary under 3.2? Date: 12 Jul 1994 23:50:25 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vva81$1gl@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2vv5qe$uvt@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes: > tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies) writes: > > peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis) writes: > > > I have tried [MetroSuction]. It works. > > > > I have tried it as well -- but it doesn't work! > > MetroSuction just gives me an error. > > Maybe I have an old version of MetroSuction.. I use Version 1.1 > > Oops. You're right, it doesn't work. What I did was > go into the app wrapper and thinned the binaries using > lipo foo -thin m68k -output foo > (on black hardware of course - use i386 on Intel machines). > -- For those who have TickleServices, check your "Services/Lipo" menu for various "Thin-ing" options. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Problems printing Framemaker 4.0 postscript Message-ID: <1994Jul12.125325.1840@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:53:25 GMT Hi, I've got a copy of the HTML spec in postscript and it was generated by Frame 4.0 and it won't print on my NeXT under 3.0. Preview brings it up but all the pages are blank. YAP manages to show just the last page. Neither complains of postscript errors. What could be wrong? Here is the start: %!PS-Adobe-3.0 %%BoundingBox: (atend) %%Pages: (atend) %%PageOrder: (atend) %%DocumentFonts: (atend) %%Creator: Frame 4.0 %%DocumentData: Clean7Bit %%EndComments %%BeginProlog % % Frame ps_prolog 4.0, for use with Frame 4.0 products and here is the end: %%EndPage: "40" 43 %%Trailer %%BoundingBox: 0 0 612 792 %%PageOrder: Ascend %%Pages: 43 %%DocumentFonts: Helvetica-Bold %%+ Times-Roman %%+ Times-Italic %%+ Courier %%+ Courier-Bold %%+ Times-Bold %%EOF Thanks in advance, Dave Griffiths
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: SUMMARY: NeXT mouse replacement/fix Date: 13 Jul 1994 03:39:52 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2vvgl8$gs3@alf.uib.no> Thanks for all the responses. Many pointed out that a Logitech (and possibly other) bus mouse will work with a new plug added. Others told about microswitchs being available everywhere. Most were agreed that NeXT mice don't exist anymore as new parts. I didn't find any used ones either. My solution: I bought a cheap used mouse at the PC discount store, and soldered out a microswitch which fitted perfectly into m,y NeXT mouse. It doesn't have exactly the same feel, but it works fine and keeps the original black streamlined looks of my cube nice :-) Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: Manish_Tuteja@MIT.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: request for a Seagate ST12400N disktab Date: 13 Jul 1994 06:54:28 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <300334$bn8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> We're trying to get a Seagate ST12400N SCSI drive formatted and running under NeXTSTEP. This is a 2 Gig drive. As such, the 3.2 version of BuildDisk and disk have difficulty with it. The solution according to NextAnswers is to write a disktab entry by hand. This is where the problem arises. The drive parameters in the Seagate manual do not match the parameters printed by the scsimodes utility. For example, scsi modes reports 84 sectors/track. The manual says 82 sectors/track. Furthermore, both set of values produce a disk with a size greater than 2048Mb(the published size of the disk.) Two requests: 1. Do you have a working disktab entry for this drive that you can post or mail? (a disktab was posted for this drive last month. It did not work correctly for us.) 2. Any suggestions on what else I may do? Thanks. Manish
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: You know who you are but I don't (SOLVED) Message-ID: <Csu7Aw.IA0@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <neuss.774019401@budlight> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 17:01:42 GMT In article <neuss.774019401@budlight> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) writes: .. > ROTFLBTC The next time you feel the urge to respond to a post, ask yourself this question: "Does what I am about to say add value?" -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews) Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Message-ID: <CsvKxv.11w@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI References: <$YU7kO9RtA02067yn@wam.umd.edu> <jgraceCsooE6.49x@netcom.com> <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 10:53:57 GMT In article <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) writes: ... > So, you don't think that patents have anything to do with >protecting the rights of the inventor? If someone wants to go >make a billion dollars off of some great idea, you don't think >the person who CREATED the idea should get some piece of it? or >be guaranteed to get a piece of it? You think your "rights" to >copy software are more important than the person who is actually >creating something new? You are confusing intellectual property in general, with patents in specific. There are no intellectual property rights to an idea recognized in the U.S., to my, non-lawyer-but-I-pay-a-fair-amount-of attention-to-this-sort-of-thing, knowledge. Patents protect inventions. Copyrights protect expressions. Trademarks protect identifications. Trade Secrets protect secrets. > Whether the patent system is broken or not, I'd rather have >one than not. I'd like to know that if I create some new way >of making something, or something truely new, that *I* will in >some way reap some bennefit/reward for my work. Your second sentence totally conflicts with the first. Consider the following sentences: Whether or not a bridge has complete chunks out of it in the middle or not, I'd rather have one than not. I'd like to know that if I want to drive from one shore to the other I'm not going to plunge to my death without warning, that *I* will have some way to get across the bridge. In the above example, not having a bridge is *clearly* superior to having a bridge, unless you argue that by having a partial bridge, you are closer to some day having a full bridge. The possibility for such a case depends entirely on the partial bridge that you have; software patents are like a partial bridge with a flawed foundation -- they do more harm than good and they are not even a good basis for something good in the future. As currently implemented, you are not guaranteed that you will be able to reap benefit from your work. We're talking about *software patents* here, essentially the ability to patent math. If software patents had been recognized from day one, you would not even consider it viable to get a job writing software. Everything you wrote would be a violation of someone's patent. Here's how it works. Cutting edge computer technology is exceedingly expensive, yet ten years later is exceedingly cheap. Algorithms that make perfect sense on cutting edge technology (there's a lot you can do when you have 1 Mb of memory that you can't do when you have 64 k, yet 1 Mb was totally financially impossible for mere mortals fifteen years ago) will eventually make sense on mainstream technology, but you, as a single individual will not get to work with the technology until years down the road -- everything that you'll want to do will have been patented. It matters GREATLY whether or not the patent system is broken. I maintain that it clearly is, with regard to software patents, and I challenge anyone to provide an example of a software invention that would not exist if it were not for software patents. If people would still develop at the speed that they're currently developing, then why do we need software patents? >I don't think >anyone but me has the right to determine how my inventions will >be used. Fine. Don't tell anyone about them. If the Supreme Court rules tomorrow that software patents aren't legit, then don't have business plans that require software patents for your success. Believe it or not, that's how the game was played for many years. > Perhaps you'd feel differently if someone out there was >a billionare who never had to work another day in their life, >nor would their children, nor children's-children, ever have to >*worry* about being without food, because they had stolen some >idea of yours.. while you're still working a dollar-a-day job >until you might be able to afford to retire someday. Maybe not. Software patents make it much harder on the little guy. Sure, you'll be able to find an occasional anecdote with the small guy coming out ahead, but by and large, the BIG companies are the ones that can file everything under the sun and afford the lawyers to get the patents approved and to stomp people who (frequently totally independently) come up with the same "invention". Your use of the word "idea" shows that either you don't understand how U.S. intellectual property laws work, or you're very sloppy in making your arguments. For others who aren't aware of it, independent invention is *not* an excuse you can use to allow you to use your own work. Hence if someone patents a technique that you come up with on your own, you are screwed, and screwed big time if that patent is held by a particularly litiguous adversary. Please also note, that in general, mathematics can't be patented, even though essentially that's what happens with software patents. > Money isn't everything, and I don't mean to come across as >though it is. On the otherhand, I'm clearly not one of those >people who believe that once a piece of software exists, it's >the right of every other computer user in the world to have a free >copy of it and/or it's source. If the world were ideal, and >no one ever stole ideas, or we all got everything we wanted and/or >needed free, then maybe we wouldn't need patents or software copyrights. >But until that happens, SOMETHING needs to guarantee the rights of >the developer/inventor. Maybe patents suck. Better than nothing >at all. And infinitely better than GNU's copyleft (you notice it's >not coloqually known as something that protects the writers RIGHTS). Software patents are opposed by the League for Programming Freedom. GNU is a project of the Free Software Foundation. There is much confusion over these two entities, partly because Richard Stallman founded both of them. You do not need to agree with the GNU Manifesto in order to recognize that software patents are a major lose, in my opinion, for most small players, all you need to do is a little research into exactly how intellectual property works, and how it has worked in the past, and the history of the software industry to decide that software patents are incredibly bad news. Software patents are *not* better than nothing at all, and in the U.S., the alternative isn't nothing at all, anyway. Copyrights protect software *much* more thoroughly than patents do. It is easy to have a knee-jerk pro-patent response, but if you do, and you really look into the particulars, you may be surprised at what you find. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
From: honey@citi.umich.edu (peter honeyman) Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,alt.fan.mts,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.keydist,alt.security.pgp,alt.security.ripem,comp.arch.storage,comp.benchmarks,comp.infosystems.www,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.org.acm,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sun,comp.org.uniforum,comp.org.usenix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.unixware,mi.misc,mi.sun,news.sysadmin,sci.crypt,umich.networking,umich.org.acm,umich.unix Subject: Final Call: USENIX Winter 1995 Technical Conference Date: 13 Jul 1994 13:42:38 GMT Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <300r0e$6iq@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> the deadline is monday. at the sound of the bell, please put your pens down and submit your paper. see http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/honey/usenix.html for further info. peter Announcement and Call for Submissions USENIX Winter 1995 Technical Conference January 16-20, 1995 New Orleans, Louisiana CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS The USENIX Winter 1995 Technical Conference in New Orleans will be the only broad-theme USENIX conference in 1995. The emphasis for the USENIX Winter 1995 Conference is on state-of-the-art practice and research in personal, distributed, and enterprise computing. We seek original and innovative papers about the architecture and performance of modern computing systems. We are especially interested to hear reports on practical experiences with such systems. Of particular interest are such topics as: * privacy and cryptography * personal digital assistant applications * enterprise-scale computing * kernelized operating systems * user interface toolkits * standards-based computing environments * file systems and mass storage * nomadic and wireless computing * shared address spaces DATE FOR REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS Manuscripts or Extended Abstracts Due: July 18, 1994 Notification to Authors: August 31, 1994 Camera-ready Papers Due: November 14, 1994 The USENIX conference, like most conferences and journals, requires that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by so-called "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976 (Title 17, U.S. Code, Section 102). HOW TO SUBMIT A REFEREED PAPER It is important that you contact the USENIX Association office to receive detailed guidelines for submitting a paper to the refereed track of the technical sessions; please telephone to +1-510-528-8649 or E-mail to winter95authors@usenix.org In addition, specific questions about submissions to the USENIX Winter 1995 Conference may be made to the program chair via E-mail at honey@citi.umich.edu. The program committee will review full papers or extended abstracts. An extended abstract should be 5 manuscript pages (single-sided) or fewer in length. It should represent the paper in "short form." Please include the abstract as it will appear in the final paper. If the full paper has been completed, it may be submitted instead of an extended abstract. Full papers should be limited to 12 single-spaced pages. Include references to establish that you are familiar with related work, and, where possible, provide detailed performance data to establish that you have a working implementation and measurement tools. Every submission should include one additional page or separate E-mail message containing: * the name of one of the authors, who will act as the contact for the program committee * contact's surface mail address, daytime and evening telephone numbers, E-mail address, and FAX number * an indication of which, if any, of the authors are full-time students WHERE TO SEND SUBMISSIONS Submit one copy of an extended abstract or full paper by July 18, 1994 via AT LEAST TWO of the following methods * E-mail to winter95papers@usenix.org * FAX to +1 313 763 4434 * Mail to: Winter 1995 USENIX CITI University of Michigan 519 W. William Ann Arbor, MI 48103-4943 U.S.A. CASH PRIZES Cash prizes will be awarded for the best paper at the conference and the best paper by a full-time student. CONFERENCE PROGRAM COMMITTEE Charles J. Antonelli CITI, University of Michigan David Bachmann IBM Austin David Chaum DigiCash b.v. Cecelia D'Oliviera Information Systems, MIT Richard Draves Microsoft Research Lori Grob Chorus Systemes Peter Honeyman (Chair) CITI, University of Michigan John T. Kohl Atria Software Greg Minshall Novell, Inc. Douglas Orr Itinerant Hacker Noemi Paciorek Horizon Research Phil Winterbottom AT&T Bell Laboratories CONFERENCE PROGRAM AND REGISTRATION INFORMATION Materials containing all details of the technical sessions and tutorial program, conference registration, hotel discounts, and airfare discount and reservation information will be available at the end of September 1994. If you wish to receive the registration materials, please contact: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert St., Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 +1-714-588-8649, FAX: +1-714-588-9706 E-mail: conference@usenix.org
From: stu1d44@bnr.ca (Gregory Gee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help. Common termcap problem. Date: 13 Jul 1994 14:48:49 GMT Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: <300ush$qrl@bmerha64.bnr.ca> I know this has been asked a hundred times, but the solution eludes me right now. How do you set the termcap to stop this? grim> ls Apps/ My_Developer/ blair.gif pics/ Library/ School/ bnr tbm.clip Mailboxes/ X-projects/ fmtemplates/ transfer/ Misc/ bin/ ftp.bnr wplexsup.us* grim> -- ******** Gregory Gee stu1d44@bnr.ca OC-12 Development Bell/Northern Research Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
From: sperkins@atman.csc.ti.com (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Kernel Netbufs Date: 13 Jul 1994 14:11:31 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Distribution: world Message-ID: <SPERKINS.94Jul13091132@atman.csc.ti.com> I have a question regarding kernel netbufs. The documentation states that a netbuf is an 'abstract sequence of bytes that can be read or written'. The sequence is logically contiguous but they don't mention if it is phyiscally contiguous. NeXT provides two functions to read and write data from/to netbufs (nb_read()/nb_write()). However, they also provide a function nb_map() that returns a pointer to the data area. Can this pointer safely be used in a uiomove() routine? If the netbufs are some encapsulation of mbufs, a function such as uiomove() may bomb because the bytes in the sequence would only be contiguous as long as they are in the same mbuf. There is an alternative, a netbuf_wrapper, that you can create around your own data space (presumably allocated with kalloc()). I would assume that this is guaranteed to be contiguous. However it is easier to just use netbufs if possible. I searched DL for netbufs and found a developer example using the DriverKit. From the context it looked as though the data was physically contiguous. However, I couldn't tell for sure because I didn't know the size if the buffers they were getting from their example device. Any help here would be appreciated. - Steve -- =========================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Texas Instruments | sperkins@csc.ti.com Dallas, TX | (214) 995-1794
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Faster Mouse, Kill! Kill! Date: 13 Jul 1994 16:41:58 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3015gm$1k8@rosie.next.com> References: <2vuceb$c7t@giuliani.gun.com> In article <2vuceb$c7t@giuliani.gun.com> ivo@hasc.ca writes: ] ] Since graduating to a higher resolution PC, I find my mouse too slow - ] even in the fastest setting in Preferences. I've screwed around with the ] NeXT1 MouseScaling dwrite but I either haven't hit the right combination ] or that is the top speed. ] Does anyone have any idea how to speed up my mouse? (It's a bus mouse.) Go to the Configure Bus Mouse inspector, and tweek the mouse resolution there. Erik
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help. Common termcap problem. Date: 13 Jul 1994 18:11:08 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <301ans$cr8@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <300ush$qrl@bmerha64.bnr.ca> In article <300ush$qrl@bmerha64.bnr.ca> stu1d44@bnr.ca (Gregory Gee) writes: >How do you set the termcap to stop this? > grim> ls > Apps/ My_Developer/ blair.gif pics/ > Library/ School/ bnr tbm.clip > Mailboxes/ X-projects/ fmtemplates/ transfer/ > Misc/ bin/ ftp.bnr wplexsup.us* Not in termcap (since you don't want this all the time. PC's running NCSA's telnet suite definitely don't like it.). Use: stty -extproc for those hosts (usually Ultrix,SunOS) you come in from. -- James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226 Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,alt.fan.mts,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.keydist,alt.security.pgp,alt.security.ripem,comp.arch.storage,comp.benchmarks,comp.infosystems.www,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.org.acm,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sun,comp.org.uniforum,comp.org.usenix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf Subject: <None> Message-ID: <89.2e243d5c@software-ag.de> From: honey@citi.umich.edu (peter honeyman) Date: 13 Jul 94 19:15:40 MEZ 1,comp.unix.unixware,mi.misc,mi.sun,news.sysadmin,sci.crypt,umich.networking,umich.org.acm,umich.unix Subject: Final Call: USENIX Winter 1995 Technical Conference Date: 13 Jul 1994 13:42:38 GMT Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan Lines: 126 Distribution: world Message-ID: <300r0e$6iq@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Reply-To: honey@citi.umich.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: gloom.citi.umich.edu Xref: Germany.EU.net alt.books.technical:1674 alt.privacy.anon-server:775 alt.security.pgp:16779 alt.security.ripem:981 comp.arch.storage:3503 comp.benchmarks:4445 comp.infosystems.www:20901 comp.mail.mime:3757 comp.mail.multi-media:1066 comp.org.acm:1918 comp.org.ieee:1709 comp.org.usenix:2499 comp.os.mach:2667 comp.os.misc:2080 comp.protocols.kerberos:1986 comp.protocols.nfs:6560 comp.sys.newton.misc:11647 comp.sys.next.misc:23286 comp.sys.novell:43702 comp.sys.pen:5435 comp.sys.sun.misc:14219 comp.unix.a dmin:16879 comp.unix.large:1122 comp.unix.misc:10221 comp.unix.osf.osf1:4024 comp.unix.unixware:8158 sci.crypt:21020 the deadline is monday. at the sound of the bell, please put your pens down and submit your paper. see http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/honey/usenix.html for further info. peter Announcement and Call for Submissions USENIX Winter 1995 Technical Conference January 16-20, 1995 New Orleans, Louisiana CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS The USENIX Winter 1995 Technical Conference in New Orleans will be the only broad-theme USENIX conference in 1995. The emphasis for the USENIX Winter 1995 Conference is on state-of-the-art practice and research in personal, distributed, and enterprise computing. We seek original and innovative papers about the architecture and performance of modern computing systems. We are especially interested to hear reports on practical experiences with such systems. Of particular interest are such topics as: * privacy and cryptography * personal digital assistant applications * enterprise-scale computing * kernelized operating systems * user interface toolkits * standards-based computing environments * file systems and mass storage * nomadic and wireless computing * shared address spaces DATE FOR REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS Manuscripts or Extended Abstracts Due: July 18, 1994 Notification to Authors: August 31, 1994 Camera-ready Papers Due: November 14, 1994 The USENIX conference, like most conferences and journals, requires that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by so-called "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976 (Title 17, U.S. Code, Section 102). HOW TO SUBMIT A REFEREED PAPER It is important that you contact the USENIX Association office to receive detailed guidelines for submitting a paper to the refereed track of the technical sessions; please telephone to +1-510-528-8649 or E-mail to winter95authors@usenix.org In addition, specific questions about submissions to the USENIX Winter 1995 Conference may be made to the program chair via E-mail at honey@citi.umich.edu. The program committee will review full papers or extended abstracts. An extended abstract should be 5 manuscript pages (single-sided) or fewer in length. It should represent the paper in "short form." Please include the abstract as it will appear in the final paper. If the full paper has been completed, it may be submitted instead of an extended abstract. Full papers should be limited to 12 single-spaced pages. Include references to establish that you are familiar with related work, and, where possible, provide detailed performance data to establish that you have a working implementation and measurement tools. Every submission should include one additional page or separate E-mail message containing: * the name of one of the authors, who will act as the contact for the program committee * contact's surface mail address, daytime and evening telephone numbers, E-mail address, and FAX number * an indication of which, if any, of the authors are full-time students WHERE TO SEND SUBMISSIONS Submit one copy of an extended abstract or full paper by July 18, 1994 via AT LEAST TWO of the following methods * E-mail to winter95papers@usenix.org * FAX to +1 313 763 4434 * Mail to: Winter 1995 USENIX CITI University of Michigan 519 W. William Ann Arbor, MI 48103-4943 U.S.A. CASH PRIZES Cash prizes will be awarded for the best paper at the conference and the best paper by a full-time student. CONFERENCE PROGRAM COMMITTEE Charles J. Antonelli CITI, University of Michigan David Bachmann IBM Austin David Chaum DigiCash b.v. Cecelia D'Oliviera Information Systems, MIT Richard Draves Microsoft Research Lori Grob Chorus Systemes Peter Honeyman (Chair) CITI, University of Michigan John T. Kohl Atria Software Greg Minshall Novell, Inc. Douglas Orr Itinerant Hacker Noemi Paciorek Horizon Research Phil Winterbottom AT&T Bell Laboratories CONFERENCE PROGRAM AND REGISTRATION INFORMATION Materials containing all details of the technical sessions and tutorial program, conference registration, hotel discounts, and airfare discount and reservation information will be available at the end of September 1994. If you wish to receive the registration materials, please contact: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert St., Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 +1-714-588-8649, FAX: +1-714-588-9706 E-mail: conference@usenix.org
From: zaphod@bcu.ubc.ca (Lance Bailey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: open command Date: 13 Jul 1994 22:38:47 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <301qdn$d9m@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> this is so simple i must be doing summat wrong i want to open a file with preview. *and* specify Preview open -a /NextApps/Preview.app some.ps open -a Preview.app some.ps open -a /NextApps/Preview some.ps open -a Preview some.ps open -a /NextApps/Preview.app/Preview some.ps all return this error: open: can't open connection to XXXXXXXXXXXX on local host. where XXXXXXXXXXXX is the variation i am trying. how do i specify the application to open? -- Zaphod
From: lukeh@zola.apana.org.au (Luke Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c? Date: 14 Jul 1994 08:21:42 +1000 Organization: Zola - Linux - Melbourne, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <301pdm$249@zola.apana.org.au> References: <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> <dglynn.10.0000411E@ncsa.uiuc.edu> <2vu44i$q6f@oclc.org> Robin Hermance-Moore (rhm@oclc.org) wrote: : David Glynn (dglynn@ncsa.uiuc.edu) wrote: : : In article <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) writes: : : >I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and : : >it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP. : : ... and while I am sure you can : : get NeXTStep running on th IBM, you won't be happy. : I wouldn't even go that far - if the laptops use the same screwy : proprietary IDE disk interface as the IBM ValuePoint line, you're in : for trouble. I believe there's a NeXTanswers doc on the IBM VP problem. Canon plan to bring out a PowerPC based notebook don't they? So perhaps there is a chance of NeXTstep on that (given that it's Canon) ... (is a generic PowerPC port on the way? It's supposedly PReP [PrEP?] compliant anyway) luke -- Luke Howard, Luke.Howard@apana.org.au URL http://zola.apana.org.au/0/zola/people Utilisez Linux!!!
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anyone know about Ann Weintz, author of the 1st NeXTSTEP book? Date: 14 Jul 1994 00:30:30 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <3020v6$n27@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1994Jul11.184743.28669@il.us.swissbank.com> In article <1994Jul11.184743.28669@il.us.swissbank.com> pelletk@il.us.swissbank.com (Ken Pelletier) writes: > Steve Weintz writes > > Howdy! > > I've been asked if i'm related to Ann Weintz, author of "Writing NeXT > Programs - An > > Introduction to NeXTStep". From my research i think not, which is weird > 'cause my > > surname is very uncommon. Anyone with info is invited to steer it my way. > > The word on the street (read: unsubstantiated information from a very reliable > source) is that there is no Ann Weintz. That's a pseudonym for someone who > wanted to remain anonymous for legal reasons - that's how it was told to me, > anyway. I could never pry the rest of the story out of my source, though. My > source told me that he knows "Ann Weintz" personally, and that she's a he. > > The author of that book has reason enough to want to remain nameless, given the > quality of the result. I've sometimes wondered if it was a disgruntled ex-NeXT > employee who wanted to sabotage the efforts of budding NEXTSTEP developers. ;-) > > - Ken > > PS - I've often wondered if you, Steve, were the mystery person. Now you can > be taken off the hot list... unless this is a smoke screen :-) Curses! My ingenious disguise has been penetrated! It was my extensive knowledge of NEXTSTEP programming that gave me away, of course. I've built *dozens* of Very Cool native word processors that I can't be bothered to bring to market. 10^2 :-) One theory I have goes like this: some members of my family are involved with Stanford University; maybe the culprit sawe the name floating around and thought, "Jeez, that sounds AWFUL..." -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 355-6322 serving anthropologists and others "They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Subject: More Mail Problems!! Message-ID: <Cswo7u.BI@ants.ci.net> Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 01:02:17 GMT First, I want to thank all the kind souls who responded to my post in which I misdiagnosed my current mail problem. It seems that it wasn't sendmail after all. Here's what happens: I've manually created my /usr/spool/mail/jmeacham file to be written and read by owner or group. Problem is, once I read mail a message, the permissions change so that I can longer read the file. This has got me stymied. Any help will be appreciated. Peace, James --- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate Andover Newton Theological School e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net 7 Flint Road Phone: 617-926-6024 Watertown, MA 02172 NeXTMAIL accepted Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116 (Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730 _____________________________________________________________________ -- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Date: 14 Jul 1994 02:24:21 GMT Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department Distribution: world Message-ID: <3027kl$nbb@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <2vv584$7nq@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Patents do serve the useful purpose of forcing public disclosure of patented inventions, helping others to build on the work. In a world without patents, companies will likely guard everything as a trade secret, thereby greatly reducing the total number of people in a position to improve on good ideas. --- Scott Roy Department of Computer Science Stanford University
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT stomps yet another developer! Date: 14 Jul 1994 02:33:38 GMT Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department Distribution: world Message-ID: <302862$nd3@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <CsstJy.3F2@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Clifford T. Matthews writes | | How about a single good example. | Silly me, but I've actually always thought that the RSA patent was a good example, where the system worked the way it was intended. Rivest & co. came up with something incredibly cool. Would you rather that they had kept it a trade secret instead? (And yes, I'm aware that I'm distorting things slightly since they didn't even think to file for a patent until after they had published the algorithm.) --- Scott Roy Department of Computer Science Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Faster Mouse, Kill! Kill! Message-ID: <1994Jul13.221248.24932@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2vuceb$c7t@giuliani.gun.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 22:12:48 GMT In article <2vuceb$c7t@giuliani.gun.com> ivo@hasc.ca writes: > > Since graduating to a higher resolution PC, I find my mouse too slow - > even in the fastest setting in Preferences. I've screwed around with the > NeXT1 MouseScaling dwrite but I either haven't hit the right combination > or that is the top speed. > Does anyone have any idea how to speed up my mouse? (It's a bus mouse.) If you look in Configure.app, it has a mouse speed slider that extends the range of responsiveness you can use. Worth a try. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any comments on using Gateway 2000 machines? Date: 14 Jul 1994 04:41:43 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <302fm7$o43@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Jul11.002346.5133@ccdd.com> In article <1994Jul11.002346.5133@ccdd.com>, Chris Cuilla <ccuilla@ccdd.com> wrote: >Anyone have any experience running Gateway 2000 machines with >NEXTSTEP? > >-- >Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com >--- >There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'. I bought a P5-66 (66MHz Pentium) from Gateway in March/April/May (I forget) and I think it's pretty much great. I wish I'd saved my money and not got a Miro Crystal 32S 4MB video card but instead just taken the Viper or waited for the Diamond Stealth, but other than that I think I got one of the greatest possible set-ups for the time (32MB RAM, 1GB Seagate HD, MS Windows sound card (could be happier with a better sound card too, since DOS-Doom doesn't suport this one), NEC 3xi CD-ROM, IBM 17P monitor, Adaptec 1542CF. Weren't too many problems installing it. Nothing too nasty. And it's pretty fast. If I had the extra 1-2 grand I would have bought from a vendor that would install NS for me, but I didn't (well, I'd go for a 21" monitor first, then if I had enough I'd buy from Alpine or somewhere that would install for me), but if money is an issue I still think Gateway is the best possible bang for the buck. -Karl
From: Tony Wosnjuk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Application which opens .dpalette files? Date: 13 Jul 1994 23:06:34 GMT Organization: Novell, Inc. Message-ID: <301s1q$8ta@bantu.Provo.Novell.COM> Does anybody know what application opens this .dpalette files. I saw these files at a ftp site and now I want to look at them. Does anybody know of a site where there are tiff files of computers, computer parts, etc . . . . Can you please cc: me the answer--> Tony_Wosnjuk@novell.com Thanks, Tony Wosnjuk.
From: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD Rom / Music Date: 14 Jul 1994 09:58:32 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Sender: R. B. Pajarola Message-ID: <303288$q95@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Keywords: CDRom Music Hi folks, I heard a few days ago that you can record digital music from a CD Rom drive on a Mac without special D/A A/D devices, you only need a special program that reads all the digital information on the CDRom disk and copies the sound as needed through the SCSI interface onto the Mac. Is there a similar possibility on the NeXT ? I've the Apple CDRom 300 drive, which is multisession able (required on the Mac to record the music). Thanks for your help, Renato _______________________________________________________________________ Renato B. Pajarola Phone: ++41 1 312 73 14 ETH Zurich, Switzerland Email: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch (ETH=Swiss Federal Institute of Technology) Phone: ++41 1 632 74 02
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Doug Moore Subject: Garbage.compressed on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <CsxJ5s.Jv1@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 12:14:13 GMT Has anyone succeeded in downloading this? All attempts for me end after about 3k have been transfered, never to resume. -- Douglas Moore St Paul, MN 612-227-3274 dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Tim Kresse <kresse@chop.isca.uiowa.edu> Subject: Homebrew list Message-ID: <774151984-0-15637@helios1.phy.ohiou.edu> Sender: news@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (news account) Organization: U of Iowa Panda System Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 02:18:14 GMT Heh, lost my address for the homebrew list, could someone either mail me the address or, heck, just add the address below to it. Danke --- ...sig?! I don't need no steenkin' .sig. *snort* Tim Kresse kresse@helios1.phy.ohiou.edu
From: honey@citi.umich.edu (peter honeyman) Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,alt.fan.mts,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.keydist,alt.security.pgp,alt.security.ripem,comp.arch.storage,comp.benchmarks,comp.infosystems.www,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.org.acm,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sun,comp.org.uniforum,comp.org.usenix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf Subject: Re: <None> Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:15:37 GMT Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <303dpp$d74@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <89.2e243d5c@software-ag.de> oh my, some broken news server in germany mangled my call for papers and reposted it. i'll try to cancel it. anyone wanna guess whether some broken news server in germany reposts my cancel? heh. peter
From: honey@citi.umich.edu (peter honeyman) Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,alt.fan.mts,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.keydist,alt.security.pgp,alt.security.ripem,comp.arch.storage,comp.benchmarks,comp.infosystems.www,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.org.acm,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sun,comp.org.uniforum,comp.org.usenix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf Subject: cmsg cancel <89.2e243d5c@software-ag.de> Control: cancel <89.2e243d5c@software-ag.de> Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:15:57 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <303dqd$d74@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <89.2e243d5c@software-ag.de>
From: beerli@u.washington.edu (Peter Beerli) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI-CD-ROM problems Date: 14 Jul 1994 17:22:27 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Message-ID: <303s8j$352@news.u.washington.edu> Hi all -- I tried to hook up a CD-ROM (Spirit, is a NEC CDR-200, double-speed) to my Cube (M68040, 25MHz, 32 MB RAM, NS3.2) the following messages [part of the startup] shows this process: .... Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2114000 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: MICROP 2210-09MQ1001801 Rev as sd0 at sc0 target 0 lun 0 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: Disk Label: grenouille Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: Disk Capacity 1008MB, Device Block 512 bytes Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: MAXTOR XT-8380S Rev B3C as sd1 at sc0 target 1 lun 0 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: Disk Label: swapdisk Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: Disk Capacity 349MB, Device Block 1024 bytes Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: PLI SUPER FLOPPY Rev 1.50 as sd2 at sc0 target 2 lun 0 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: Waiting for drive to come ready Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: ................... Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: s0 (6,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:10 scsi status:0x2 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg1 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg2 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg3 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: odc0 at 0x2112000 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: od0 at odc0 slave 0 Jul 11 23:24:18 tree mach: drive ROM v8, servo ROM v8 .... The chain I used was (I have tried other chains as well): SCSI0 (MICROP) - SCSI1 (MAXTOR; 2 partitions) - SCSI6 (CD-ROM) - SCSI(2) Floppy (correctly terminated). The CD-ROM-drive produces no problem with a Mac. A help pointer is needed thanks Peter
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,alt.fan.mts,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.keydist,alt.security.pgp,alt.security.ripem,comp.arch.storage,comp.benchmarks,comp.infosystems.www,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.org.acm,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sun,comp.org.uniforum,comp.org.usenix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf Subject: <None> Message-ID: <90.2e259034@software-ag.de> From: honey@citi.umich.edu (peter honeyman) Date: 14 Jul 94 19:21:24 MEZ Subject: Re: <None> Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:15:37 GMT Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <303dpp$d74@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <89.2e243d5c@software-ag.de> Reply-To: honey@citi.umich.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: gloom.citi.umich.edu Xref: Germany.EU.net alt.books.technical:1682 alt.privacy.anon-server:777 alt.security.pgp:16817 alt.security.ripem:983 comp.arch.storage:3512 comp.benchmarks:4455 comp.infosystems.www:20970 comp.mail.mime:3771 comp.mail.multi-media:1070 comp.org.acm:1922 comp.org.ieee:1713 comp.org.usenix:2501 comp.os.mach:2672 comp.os.misc:2082 comp.protocols.kerberos:1995 comp.protocols.nfs:6575 comp.sys.newton.misc:11709 comp.sys.next.misc:23304 comp.sys.novell:43848 comp.sys.pen:5451 comp.sys.sun.misc:14239 comp.unix.a dmin:16925 comp.unix.large:1127 comp.unix.misc:10235 oh my, some broken news server in germany mangled my call for papers and reposted it. i'll try to cancel it. anyone wanna guess whether some broken news server in germany reposts my cancel? heh. peter
From: rjung@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Rainer Jung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: YOW! NA.compressed produces hundreds of "@@MaNgLeD.xx" files! Date: 14 Jul 1994 19:17:56 GMT Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany Message-ID: <304314$62m@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> References: <2vsf9h$n6p@hub.ucsb.edu> <2vslt6$cav@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Joel C Belog (nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU) wrote: : In article <2vsf9h$n6p@hub.ucsb.edu>, : Douglas Scott <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu> wrote: : >Has anyone else had problems with the compressed complete NextAnswers from the : >ftp.next.com site? I decompressed it twice, and both times the filenames of : >several hundred files were turned into files of the form @@MaNgLeD.XXX, where : >XXX is an ascending series of numbers. : > : >Is this due to a problem with long filenames?? I thought gnutar had fixed : >that problem. : > : >Thanks in advance. : Yes, GNUtar does use @@MaNgLeD.XXX for long filenames. The only : thing that I can think of is that maybe you *aren't* using : gnutar. Double check what tar executable you are running, eg sym : links. : FYI ... I just downloaded and unpacked NA.compressed two days : ago and used gnutar version 1.10. I am running 3.0, so I had : to build gnutar ... : Good Luck, : joel belog The shell-builtin "where" shows you the actual file used for your commands e.g. "where tar". -- Rainer Jung,0761/278029 <rjung@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc From: mikesteg(stegbauer_mike@tandem.com) Subject: Reading NeXT CDROM on SGI drive Message-ID: <1994Jul11.193740.11351@integrity.uucp> Sender: usenet@integrity.uucp (Integrity News System) Organization: TANDEM Computers, Inc (MPD) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 19:37:40 GMT Supposedly, it is possible to tar off files from a NeXT format CDROM. When I try: tar -xvf /dev/dsk/dks0d3s7, I get ye'ole "invalid checksum" error, which usually indicates byte swapping problems, but can indicate just about anything. Ideas? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael Stegbauer - MikeS - stegbauer_mike@tandem.com - formerly mikesteg Tandem On-Line Support Center, Austin, TX - TNSC UNIX Support Analyst 1992 Laser RS AWD, Red - 1993 750 Nighthawk, Blue - trekkie(TOS,TNG,DS9,V) "Walk softly and carry a big stick" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Tim Kresse <kresse@chop.isca.uiowa.edu> Subject: V-Tech and NeXTStep Message-ID: <774225025-0-20883@helios1.phy.ohiou.edu> Sender: news@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (news account) Organization: U of Iowa Panda System Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 22:35:34 GMT So, anyone have any experience with that combination? Specifically I'm wondering if the V-Tech SCSI bios is nextstep compatible. I don't remember seeing it in the hardware guide, but I haven't seen the newest edition of that either --- ...sig?! I don't need no steenkin' .sig. *snort* Tim Kresse kresse@helios1.phy.ohiou.edu
From: gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gil Rivlis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: YOW! NA.compressed produces hundreds of "@@MaNgLeD.xx" files! Date: 14 Jul 1994 23:17:01 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <304h1d$oc4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <304314$62m@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Rainer Jung writes [after questions about tar] > The shell-builtin "where" shows you the actual file used for your commands > e.g. "where tar". You probably meant the 'which' command. Gil -- Gil Rivlis gil@atlantic.mps.ohio-state.edu
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Connecting a network printer on a standalone ColorStation Date: 14 Jul 1994 21:32:19 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <304at3$5dq@machthenext.dannug.dk> Keywords: Network printer, Standalone Hi all, I m about to borrow a new colorlaserprinter product from my company, for testing. It has both a serial port (RS-422) and a network interface (Ethernet, TCP/IP or IPX), and I m going to connect it to my ColorStation. I would of course prefer to use thin Ethernet (BNC) with terminators on either end, not much trouble in that. But I m not quite sure as to how the software setup should be done. Do I simply add a new entry through the PrintManager.app (yes, I have a PPD file for it), or do I need to fiddle with Unix to get this connection to work??? Also, is it possible to make the setup transparent to the app s, meaning that I can print as usual (like the NeXTLaser), and it gets printed on this printer, or will I have to use lpr??? The printer can also support EtherTalk (AppleTalk), and I still have the original 3.0 AppleTalk package. Does anyone use this package on a 3.2 NeXT, with acceptable results (I know it s flaky at best)??? I m really looking forward to trying this product, and I only have for 2 weeks starting this Friday, so I need help fast!!! Thanks for your support! Best Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 _____________________________________________
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,alt.fan.mts,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.keydist,alt.security.pgp,alt.security.ripem,comp.arch.storage,comp.benchmarks,comp.infosystems.www,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.org.acm,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sun,comp.org.uniforum,comp.org.usenix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf Subject: <None> Message-ID: <91.2e259224@software-ag.de> From: honey@citi.umich.edu (peter honeyman) Date: 14 Jul 94 19:29:40 MEZ Subject: cmsg cancel <89.2e243d5c@software-ag.de> Control: cancel <89.2e243d5c@software-ag.de> Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:15:57 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Lines: 0 Distribution: world Message-ID: <303dqd$d74@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <89.2e243d5c@software-ag.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: gloom.citi.umich.edu
From: dabbaha@mary.iia.org (Albert Dabbah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Garbage.compressed on cs.orst.edu Date: 14 Jul 1994 19:55:28 -0400 Organization: International Internet Association. Message-ID: <304j9g$f9p@mary.iia.org> References: <CsxJ5s.Jv1@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CsxJ5s.Jv1@news.cis.umn.edu>, <dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu> wrote: >Has anyone succeeded in downloading this? All attempts for me end >after about 3k have been transfered, never to resume. > >-- >Douglas Moore >St Paul, MN >612-227-3274 >dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready I also have the same problem. After 3012 bytes have been transfered, it just hangs.
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 14 Jul 1994 20:59:37 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <3048vp$dig@network.ucsd.edu> References: <2vo2ee$p0d@acmex.gatech.edu> John (gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu) wrote: : So, you don't think that patents have anything to do with : protecting the rights of the inventor? I'm not the original poster, but my answer to this question is N O in the USA. As stated in the US Constitution, patents may be awarded---at the discretion of the legislature---for the purpose of securing the general welfare of society. There is no 'personal right' to a patent, quite unlike other well established Constitutional rights that citizens hold. If Congress should so decide that software patents, as a class, do not promote the welfare of the society it may eliminate them. This is what the LPF advocates. sorry this is totally off subject. matt : John -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Message-ID: <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 02:31:43 GMT Eric de la Tribouille (eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu) wrote: : I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their : softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through : info@ciusa.com From the new NeXT 3rd-Party catalogue, their new email address is ciusa@cup.portal.com --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Application which opens .dpalette files? Message-ID: <CsytxM.9u2@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <301s1q$8ta@bantu.Provo.Novell.COM> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 05:00:56 GMT TonyWosnjuk wrote: : Does anybody know what application opens this .dpalette files. I saw : these files at a ftp site and now I want to look at them. : Does anybody know of a site where there are tiff files of computers, : computer parts, etc . . . . : Can you please cc: me the answer--> Tony_Wosnjuk@novell.com These are image palettes for Diagram! from Lighthouse Design. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Aldus and Altsys reach settlement Date: 15 Jul 1994 01:59:31 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Sender: sanguish@digifix.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <3058k3$c3l@digifix.digifix.com> Aldus and Altsys reach settlement Aldus Corporation 411 First Avenue South Seattle, WA 98104-2871 (206) 622-5500 Media contacts: Brad Stevens (206) 628-2361 Altsys Corporation 269 West Renner Parkway Richardson, TX 75080 (214) 680-2060 Media contact: Melinda Conkling Springbok Technologies (214) 480-9458 SEATTLE, July 14, 1994 -- Aldus Corporation (NASDAQ:ALDC) and Altsys Corporation of Richardson, Texas, today announced that they have reached a settlement of litigation pending in Federal District Court in Dallas, Texas. The settlement with Altsys includes an amendment to the license agreement between Aldus and Altsys with respect to Aldus continued marketing of Aldus FreeHand, an illustration and design software program for microcomputers. Those modifications which become effective upon the closing of the merger between Aldus and Adobe principally provide that upon the termination of the license agreement in July 1995, Aldus will transfer certain assets relating to Aldus FreeHand to Altsys, including all of its interests in the FreeHand name and documentation, foreign translations, and access to the FreeHand user mailing list. Aldus also has agreed that for the balance of the license term through July 1995, it will abide by certain rules and procedures intended to assure Altsys that the marketing of Aldus FreeHand will remain separate and distinct from, and competitive with, the marketing of Adobe Illustrator, a similar program currently sold by Adobe. After the license termination in July 1995, Aldus will not be restricted from distributing a product which is competitive to FreeHand. The settlement also contains terms with respect to the possible continuation of the license in the event that the merger does not occur. The settlement is very fair and removes one obstacle to completing our merger with Adobe, said Paul Brainerd, president of Aldus. Our agreement should provide for a smooth transfer of FreeHand to Altsys. In the meantime, we intend to aggressively market and support FreeHand during the remainder of the license agreement. Altsys has been a pioneer in the graphics software industry, as evidenced by our creation of Fontographer in 1986 and FreeHand in 1987, said Jim Von Ehr, president & CEO of Altsys Corporation. We are pleased with the careful steps we have taken with Aldus to ensure the smooth transition of FreeHand to Altsys. Altsys is totally committed to the success of FreeHand, and we plan to keep our worldwide customers very happy. Founded in 1984, Richardson Texas-based Altsys Corporation is a world leader in font-editing and graphics software. Altsys publishes Fontographer 4.0 for Macintosh and Fontographer 3.5 for Microsoft Windows, Altsys Font-o-matic for Windows and Macintosh, Metamorphosis Professional and EPS Exchange for Macintosh, and Virtuoso for NextStep and Solaris. Altsys has been the developer of Aldus FreeHand since its creation in 1986. Aldus Corporation, headquartered in Seattle, Washington, creates computer software solutions that help people throughout the world effectively communicate information and ideas. The company focuses on three main lines of business: applications and services for the professional publishing, prepress, and video markets; applications and services for the general consumer market; and new software tools for the emerging interactive publishing market. Aldus has subsidiaries in Europe, Asia, and the Pacific Rim serving a worldwide network of dealers and distributors. 30 Aldus, the Aldus logo, and FreeHand are registered trademarks of Aldus Corporation. Fontographer, Metamorphosis, and EPS Exchange are registered trademarks of Altsys Corporation. Other product and corporate names may be trademarks or registered trademarks of other companies and are used for identification to their owners benefit, without intent to infringe. Lorin Rivers Virtuoso Product Manager Altsys Corporation 269 W. Renner Parkway Richardson, Texas 75080 214.680.2060 Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com (NeXT Mail Expected) -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (Alex Nghiem) Subject: e-mail address for ftp.next.com Message-ID: <1994Jul14.210947.16798@pcp.ca> Sender: news@pcp.ca Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:09:47 GMT Hello there: Does anyone out there know if there's an e-mail server for downloading the exampleas that are posted on ftp.next.com? I currently don't have ftp access. Thanks, Alex Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (until July 22nd) alex@oolesson.com
From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: request for a Seagate ST12400N disktab Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 15 Jul 1994 08:25:40 GMT Organization: Xedoc Software Development Pty Ltd Distribution: world Message-ID: <305h64$2hp@yarrina.connect.com.au> References: <300334$bn8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Manish_Tuteja@MIT.Edu wrote: : We're trying to get a Seagate ST12400N SCSI drive formatted and running : under NeXTSTEP. This is a 2 Gig drive. As such, the 3.2 version of : BuildDisk and disk have difficulty with it. The solution according to : NextAnswers is to write a disktab entry by hand. This is where the : problem arises. : The drive parameters in the Seagate manual do not match the parameters : printed by the scsimodes utility. For example, scsi modes reports 84 : sectors/track. The manual says 82 sectors/track. Furthermore, both set : of values produce a disk with a size greater than 2048Mb(the published : size of the disk.) : Two requests: : 1. Do you have a working disktab entry for this drive that you : can post or mail? (a disktab was posted for this drive last : month. It did not work correctly for us.) : 2. Any suggestions on what else I may do? Try telneting to sunsite.unc.edu. Log in as 'gopher', then search the sunspots archives for 'ST12400N'. The Sun people have this problem all the time, and frequently request & post drive information for every disk you can imagine. Cam. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley cdb@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax +61-3-696-6757 222 Park St., Phone +61-3-696-2490 South Melbourne VIC, 3206 Australia
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: uuencode to send files Date: 15 Jul 1994 09:30:20 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <305kvc$ic9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> What is the correct format to send a file to someone using uuencode? The man pages say: uuencode [ source ] remotedest | mail sys1!sys2!..!decode I assume that "remotedest" is the recipients email address, and that "source" is the file to be sent. What does the "sys1!sys2!..!decode" mean? And where is the proper place to put the -s command to include a subject line? Thanks in advance, Greg
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: uuencode to send files Date: 15 Jul 1994 12:20:48 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <305uv0$jve@news.tamu.edu> References: <305kvc$ic9@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> In article <305kvc$ic9@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, Gregory B Howland <gregory@nukestep.mit.edu> wrote: >What is the correct format to send a file to >someone using uuencode? The man pages say: > > uuencode [ source ] remotedest | mail sys1!sys2!..!decode > >I assume that "remotedest" is the recipients email address, >and that "source" is the file to be sent. What does the >"sys1!sys2!..!decode" mean? And where is the proper place >to put the -s command to include a subject line? "remotedest" is the name the decoded file will have upon decoding on the remote machine (or wherever the encoded file is decoded). "source" and "remotedest" will therefore often be the same. I don't know what the sys1!sys2! is, but the "decode" as used above assumes that the system to which you are sending the mail has a system alias called "decode" set up (a "user") such that mail sent to "decode" is piped to uudecode. I'm no expert on system security, but it's my uneducated opinion that this would be a Bad Thing(TM), and therefore unlikely to be implemented on most systems. The command as you are more likely to use it, then, would look more like: uuencode [ source ] remotedest | mail -s [ user ] and the user would have to manually uudecode upon receipt. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: HELP! Miro crystal 325 video card doesn't come up Message-ID: <CszEA1.82s@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: poster Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 12:20:24 GMT folks, i have a rather large problem with one of my pentium computers, which i hope some kind soul could solve. Scenario - System 3346 pentium based computer, which has an on-board ATI video card (linear frame buffers, etc.). we installed a MIRO crystal 325 video card, and now nothing comes up. nada. zippo. rumor has it that we have to disable the on-board video card, but i do not know how to do this. has anyone else come across this problem? has anyone else solved it? help? thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kemal@sap-ag.de (Kemal Koeksal) Subject: Re: e-mail address for ftp.next.com Message-ID: <CszJpM.Ky7@sap-ag.de> Sender: news@sap-ag.de (USENET News System) Organization: SAP-AG Walldorf References: <1994Jul14.210947.16798@pcp.ca> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 14:17:46 GMT Alex Nghiem (Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca) wrote: : Hello there: : Does anyone out there know if there's an e-mail server for downloading the : exampleas that are posted on ftp.next.com? I currently don't have ftp : access. : Thanks, : Alex : Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (until July 22nd) : alex@oolesson.com try ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com, work#s great for me. Subject: help will give you an excellent help document.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: stephens@nextstuff (robert stephens) Subject: Apple Quicktime Developer CD - copying movies for NEXTIME Message-ID: <netnewsCszIFp.H42@netcom.com> Keywords: Quicktime,NEXTIME,file system,shell Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:50:13 GMT When trying to copy Quicktime movies from an Apple Quicktime developer CD there seems to be a problem getting the resource fork from the disk. The CD mounts o.k. in the Workspace browser and I am able to copy the movie file. Problem: [1] The mounted cd shows up in the Workspace browser as QuickTime . [2] When I open a shell and try to change to /QuickTime /Movies to get the resource fork in a shell, I get the following error message: /QuickTimeI/Movies: No such file or directory Note the Workspace string "QuickTime " has changed to "QuickTimeI" when trying to change to that directory. [3] When an "ls" is done on the CD in a shell , yet another string shows up: QuickTime?/ Has anyone been able to get the Quicktime movies off of this CD, or had similar problems ? Thank you, R Stephens stephens@netcom.com -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M]"EQM M87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@V,C)<='@Q,C0U7'1X,3@V.%QT M>#(T.3!<='@S,3$S7'1X,S<S-EQT>#0S-3E<='@T.3@Q7'1X-38P-%QT>#8R M,C=<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,CA<9F,P7&-F,"!7:&5N('1R>6EN9R!T M;R!C;W!Y(%%U:6-K=&EM92!M;W9I97,@9G)O;2!A;B!!<'!L92!1=6EC:W1I M;64@9&5V96QO<&5R($-$('1H97)E('-E96US('1O(&)E(&$@<')O8FQE;2!G M971T:6YG('1H92!R97-O=7)C92!F;W)K(&9R;VT@=&AE(&1I<VLN7`I<"E1H M92!#1"!M;W5N=',@;RYK+B!I;B!T:&4@5V]R:W-P86-E(&)R;W=S97(@86YD M($D@86T@86)L92!T;R!C;W!Y('1H92!M;W9I92!F:6QE+EP*7`I0<F]B;&5M M.EP*7`H)"5LQ70E4:&4@;6]U;G1E9"!C9"!S:&]W<R!U<"!I;B!T:&4@5V]R M:W-P86-E(&)R;W=S97(@87,@475I8VM4:6UER2Y<"EP*"0E;,ET)5VAE;B!) M(&]P96X@82!S:&5L;"!A;F0@=')Y('1O(&-H86YG92!T;R`O475I8VM4:6UE MR2]-;W9I97,@=&\@9V5T('1H95P*"0D)<F5S;W5R8V4@9F]R:R!I;B!A('-H M96QL+"!)(&=E="!T:&4@9F]L;&]W:6YG(&5R<F]R(&UE<W-A9V4Z7`I<"@D) M"0DO475I8VM4:6UE22]-;W9I97,Z($YO('-U8V@@9FEL92!O<B!D:7)E8W1O M<GE<"EP*"0D)3F]T92!T:&4@5V]R:W-P86-E('-T<FEN9R`B475I8VM4:6UE MR2(@:&%S(&-H86YG960@=&\@(E%U:6-K5&EM94DB('=H96Y<"@D)"71R>6EN M9R!T;R!C:&%N9V4@=&\@=&AA="!D:7)E8W1O<GDN7`I<"@D)6S-="5=H96X@ M86X@(FQS(B!I<R!D;VYE(&]N('1H92!#1"!I;B!A('-H96QL("P@>65T(&%N M;W1H97(@<W1R:6YG('-H;W=S('5P.EP*7`H)"0D)475I8VM4:6UE/R]<"EP* M2&%S(&%N>6]N92!B965N(&%B;&4@=&\@9V5T('1H92!1=6EC:W1I;64@;6]V M:65S(&]F9B!O9B!T:&ES($-$+"!O<B!H860@<VEM:6QA<B!P<F]B;&5M<R`_ M7`I<"E1H86YK('EO=2Q<"EP*4B!3=&5P:&5N<UP*<W1E<&AE;G-`;F5T8V]M '+F-O;0I]"FYK `
From: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com (Peter Lipps) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: e-mail address for ftp.next.com Date: 15 Jul 1994 13:47:09 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <30640t$487@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Jul14.210947.16798@pcp.ca> In article <1994Jul14.210947.16798@pcp.ca> Nghiem_Alex@pcp.ca (Alex Nghiem) writes: > Hello there: > > Does anyone out there know if there's an e-mail server for downloading the > exampleas that are posted on ftp.next.com? -- Try NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM and Subject: INDEX HELP Hope this helps -Peter ______________________________ Peter Lipps NeXT Computer Deutschland GmbH - Oskar-Messter-Str. 24, 85737 Ismaning, Germany InterNet: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com
From: sepp@ppcger.ppc.sub.org (Josef Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NSI/gcc and embedded systems? Date: 14 Jul 1994 21:48:30 +0200 Organization: PPCGer mail and news system (Germersheim, Germany) Message-ID: <3044qe$eo@ppcger.ppc.sub.org> Hi! I want to compile some code for an eprom-based system. The compilation seems to be pretty easy (cc -arch m68k -c). But how do I link this stuff together? I could't find any option for ld to suppress this Mach_O-stuff. Do I have to get some linker from the net? Or is there any way to force ld to create output without all this load-headers/load-commands so it can directly be stored into eprom? Thanks in advance -- Josef Wolf -- sepp@ppcger.ppc.sub.org Germersheim, Germany
From: rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,alt.binaries.sounds.d Subject: CD Sample Recording Quality Date: 15 Jul 1994 15:23:24 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation Message-ID: <3069ld$o2o@newsflash.mitre.org> I'd like to get better playback quality from the short samples that I record from CDs. I'm running a wire from the CD ROM to a NeXT soundbox mike input. I've tried the various recording utilities, i.e., Mail, YASE, etc., with disappointing results. I have a feeling that the NeXT soundbox is the weak link in the chain. Is there anyway to sample CDs and get excellent sound quality playback without additional hardware? --- Roy SeGuine Cyberspace Architect rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org *My thoughts are not necessarily my own and might represent my employers*
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NSI/gcc and embedded systems? Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:28:56 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <si9gRMW00WBMM1kmUN@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3044qe$eo@ppcger.ppc.sub.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 14-Jul-94 NSI/gcc and embedded systems? by Josef Wolf@ppcger.ppc.su > Hi! > > I want to compile some code for an eprom-based system. The compilation > seems to be pretty easy (cc -arch m68k -c). But how do I link this stuff > together? I could't find any option for ld to suppress this Mach_O-stuff. > > Do I have to get some linker from the net? Or is there any way to force ld > to create output without all this load-headers/load-commands so it > can directly be stored into eprom? Depending on just what you are trying to do, producing assembly code output may be sufficient. Try examining the .s files produced by "cc -S -arch m68k _cfile_". Otherwise, try playing around with the -object, -preload, and possibly -fvmlib options to ld. You're not going to get exactly what you wish from this, but it may be close enough that you can fix things by hand. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple Quicktime Developer CD - copying movies for NEXTIME Date: 15 Jul 1994 17:58:28 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <306io4$4gp@rosie.next.com> References: <netnewsCszIFp.H42@netcom.com> Keywords: QuickTime NEXTIME The QuickTime disks from Apple Computer, Inc. follow the "QuickTime" on the disk name with a character which decodes to a trademark symbol in Apple's glyph set. This character has the high bit set. In order to use shell commands with these disks, you'll need to use a shell that is 8 bit clean. I've been using zsh. If you have access to a shell such as zsh, then just run that shell from your normal command line, something like this: hawk> zsh hawk% cd /Qu*/Movies hawk% ls About Box Fun Stuff Pencil Test Apple Commercials MoviePlayer? Ty's QuickTime Theatre Cool stuff in here? Navigable Movies hawk% cd "Apple Commercials" hawk% ls John & Greg Kareem Melinda hawk% cp Kareem Kareem.#rsrc# /tmp hawk% ls /tmp Kareem Kareem.#rsrc# console.log hawk% exit 0.0u 1.7s 1:27 2% 0+0k 18+377io 0pf+0w hawk> Of course, this is all pretty bogus. There should be a way to get to the resource forks from the file browser without all this shell madness. I'll see what can be done. Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM --- I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me. Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility, and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. "Mommy, Mommy! The mean old engineer won't type fast enough to do everything I want RIGHT NOW!"
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Date: 15 Jul 1994 19:15:50 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <306n96$far@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: > Eric de la Tribouille (eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu) wrote: > : I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their > : softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through > : info@ciusa.com > > From the new NeXT 3rd-Party catalogue, their new email address is > ciusa@cup.portal.com > > --Chris > Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- > Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| > chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| > csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o----------------- Well, when you try, you got : From: Portal_mail_system@cup.portal.com To: Eric de la Tribouille <eric@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu> Subject: Returned mail Lines: 24 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 12:13:21 PDT X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) To: Eric de la Tribouille <eric@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu> From: Portal mail system Subject: Returned mail Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 12:13:21 PDT Lines: 24 Your letter to "ciusa" could not be delivered. Reason for failure: This user's account is suspended ----- Detailed explanation for failure: This user has temporarily suspended his account. Accounts are typically suspended for several months. While suspended, this user will be unable to receive any mail. Undeliverable letter follows ----- [...] - Eric -- Opinion expressed is my own ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric@ks.uiuc.edu NeXT sys. admin. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Newsgroups: alt.fan.mts,alt.travel.road-trip,comp.client-server,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.telecom.tech,comp.groupware,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.org.acm,comp.org.decus,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.isoc.interest,comp.org.issnnet,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.unixware,mi.misc,mi.sun,rec.travel.misc,sci.crypt,umich.networking,umich.org.acm,umich.unix,umich.unix.admin Subject: CFP: Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing Date: 15 Jul 1994 20:04:28 GMT Organization: University of Michigan CITI Distribution: world Message-ID: <306q4d$mjj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Announcement and Preliminary Call for Papers Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing April 10-11, 1995 Ann Arbor, Michigan Sponsored by the USENIX Association The Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location- Independent Computing will provide a major opportunity for researchers and practitioners in this rapidly growing field to exchange ideas and present results of their work. The First Mobile Computing Symposium, held in Boston in August 1993, generated a great deal of interest from the UNIX and mobile computing communities. Since that time, mobile computing has become an even hotter topic, with the size, cost, and power requirements of the equipment going down. The FCC has announced a plan to auction radio spectrum for use of mobile devices, and the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is in the process of standardizing protocols for mobile TCP/IP, including roaming capabilities. Mobile computers are the fastest growing segment of the PC market, airlines are scrambling to provide network connectivity on board, and terminal rooms at computer conferences routinely provide network taps for users who bring their own computers. The 1995 symposium is a single-track symposium offering two days of refereed paper presentations. The symposium will also include panels, Work-in-Progress reports, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions, and a Keynote speaker. Formally reviewed papers, presented during the symposium, will be published in the symposium proceedings. Proceedings will be distributed free to attendees and later will be available for purchase from the USENIX Association. DATES FOR REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS Extended abstracts due: January 2, 1995 Notification to authors: January 23, 1995 Camera-ready final papers due: March 6, 1995 PROGRAM COMMITTEE Program Chair: Jim Rees University of Michigan Jim.Rees@umich.edu Norman Adams Xerox PARC norman@parc.xerox.com Dan Duchamp Columbia University djd@cs.columbia.edu Dan Geer OpenVision Technologies, Inc. geer@cam.ov.com Phil Karn Qualcomm karn@qualcomm.com Jim Kempf Sun Microsystems james.kempf@eng.sun.com Jay Kistler Digital Equipment Corporation jjk@src.dec.com SYMPOSIUM TOPICS We seek original and innovative papers about current developments in mobile and location-independent computing. We are especially interested in reports on practical experiences with mobile systems. The Mobile Computing Symposium will address a wide range of issues and ongoing developments, including, but not limited to: - Applications for the mobile user - Navigation and positioning (GPS, etc.) - Security, especially in wireless environments or when away from home - Caching and disconnected operation of applications and file systems - Communications Protocols, including mobile TCP/IP - Wireless communications (CDPD, CDMA, GSM, Ardis/RAM, cellular modem, etc.), and how they relate to and interact with operating systems and applications - Portable and mobile computing equipment SUBMISSIONS OF REFEREED PAPERS Submission of an extended abstract of 1500-2500 words (9000- 15000 bytes or 3-5 pages) is recommended. Shorter abstracts run a significant risk of rejection as there will be little on which the program committee can base an opinion. Extended abstracts should be sent to Jim Rees at the address below. For administrative reasons (not blind reviewing), each submission should include a separate page or e-mail message giving the title of the paper, the names and affiliations of the authors, and the name of the author who will act as the contact person for the program committee. For the contact person, also include a daytime telephone number, postal address, e-mail address and FAX number if possible. For questions about refereed paper submissions and other program concerns, contact the Program Chair; contact information follows. If you would like to receive detailed guidelines for submission and examples of extended abstracts, you may telephone the USENIX Association office at +1 510 528- 8649 or email to mobile2authors@usenix.org. USENIX symposia, like most symposia and journals, require that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976. WHERE TO SUBMIT Jim Rees CITI University of Michigan 519 West William Ann Arbor, Michigan USA 48103 Internet: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Telephone: +1 313 763-4174 Fax: +1 313 763-4434 FOR REGISTRATION INFORMATION Materials containing all details of the technical and tutorial programs, registration fees and forms, and hotel information will be available beginning in February 1995. If you wish to receive the registration materials, please contact USENIX at: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert Street, Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 Telephone: +1 714 588-8649 Fax: +1 714 588-9706 Internet: conference@usenix.org
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Reading NeXT CDROM on SGI drive Date: 16 Jul 1994 07:10:35 GMT Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <30815b$s4b@gazette.esd.sgi.com> References: <1994Jul11.193740.11351@integrity.uucp> mikesteg(stegbauer_mike@tandem.com) writes: | Supposedly, it is possible to tar off files from a NeXT format CDROM. | When I try: tar -xvf /dev/dsk/dks0d3s7, | I get ye'ole "invalid checksum" error, which usually indicates byte | swapping problems, but can indicate just about anything. Run with the 'q' option to get more info. The dksc driver can't be used with drives that don't have the SGI volume header. You'll have to write a small devscsi program that reads the CD, writes to stdout, and then pipe it to tar. THere is a way around this, and that's writing a small program that fakes a volume header, and writes that into the driver with DIOCSETVH, and then reads from the drive and writes to stdout. You'll almost certainly want volume partition, so you start from block 0. These are all guesses, since I have no idea what format NeXT actually uses with their CD's -- The most beautiful things in the world are | Dave Olson those from which all excess weight has been | Silicon Graphics removed. -Henry Ford | olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <xystem!jsmit@relay.NL.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 21:39:51 +0100 From: Jack Smit <xystem!jsmit@relay.NL.net> Message-ID: <9407152039.AA00557@xystem> Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c? In article <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) writes: >From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)>Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c? >Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:52:42 GMT >I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and >it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP. >I would also like to hear about any comments or experiences about running >NeXTSTEP on a notebook...as I am deciding on whether to purchase an Apple >PowerBook 540c, IBM ThinkPad 755c, or NEC Versa 75EC. >-Rob Wilson It is not possible to install it on IBM ThinkPad because of the MCA architecture. I tried it, it is not even possible to boot from the floppy disk. MCA architecture is not support by NS/I ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack Smit Tel.: +31 46 529019 Xystem Consultancy BV JSmit@Xystem.NL The Netherlands NeXTmail welcome ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Re: Is Ciusa still alive ??? Message-ID: <edewCt1Lv2.85s@netcom.com> Sender: Eric Dew Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2vseh3$r14@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 16:59:26 GMT In article <Csyn0w.JGA@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: >Eric de la Tribouille (eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu) wrote: >: I'm trying to contact Cuisa Software to get more informations about their >: softwares called FirstApplause and DayTrimer, but got no answer through >: info@ciusa.com > >From the new NeXT 3rd-Party catalogue, their new email address is >ciusa@cup.portal.com > >--Chris >Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- >Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| >chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| >csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o----------------- Forget their eddress. They're no longer on the net. The only way to contact them, as I mentioned before, is by phone or s-mail. The third-party catalogue lists: CiUSA 3208 W. Lake Street Suite 133 Minneapolis MN 55416 (612) 822-1604 (612) 922-4426 I talked to Gerard(?) from CiUSA and he said that they're no longer on the 'net. Apparently, they're very slow with delivering products, too, as I bought DateWise 2.1 from them about 2 weeks ago, and still haven't received it. My credit card has been charged, though. EDEW
From: adv2000@delphi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SimonSays Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:31:26 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <x64TC2+.adv2000@delphi.com> References: <2vc7s8$pto@GRAPEVINE.LCS.MIT.EDU> ATI PCI Mach32 driver is available.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: ESDI Drives and NS/FIP Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 18:12:15 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jul16.181215.23649@cyantic.com> I have a Seagate Wren VI 383 Mb Half Height Drive with an Everex EV-348 Controller. I'd like to use the drive with NS. Has anyone had any experience with this drive/controller combination? If the controller isn't compatible, I could easily find another, but would prefer not to sink too much into this older setup. Please reply by email. Thanks -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mberger@netcom.com (Michael Berger) Subject: Need Next TuboColor System Message-ID: <mbergerCt2G9D.2x2@netcom.com> Summary: Need a replacement NextStep TuboColor station Keywords: Next TurboColor Monitor Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 03:56:01 GMT We have a damaged NextStep TuboColor station and need a replacement. If you have a used system, or can repair one, please contact: Esther Kozak Cheetah Software (310)573-3690 Pacific Palisades, CA (Los Angeles area)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket) Subject: Re: Garbage.compressed on cs.orst.edu Message-ID: <1994Jul17.053023.19220@venice.sedd.trw.com> Originator: verket@verket-home Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News) Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA References: <CsxJ5s.Jv1@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:30:23 GMT In article <CsxJ5s.Jv1@news.cis.umn.edu> Doug Moore writes: > Has anyone succeeded in downloading this? All attempts for me end > after about 3k have been transfered, never to resume. I've put a copy up on sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/submissions Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
From: jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Mouse Date: 17 Jul 1994 06:12:14 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <30ai3u$rb8@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have a NeXTstation Color, running NS3.2. I have found that my mouse is unbearably slow, compared to every other machine I own, especially on the 21" monitor. I have been trying to adjust it to a higher speed than possible through preferences.app, using dwrite, and dread. I have also tryed the Defaults editor GTool. However once I read the default value, I have no idea what to try to set it to. Here are the four setting values available through preferences. 1st setting "1 1 1" 2nd setting "5 1 1 6 2 7 3 8 5 9 7" 3rd setting "5 2 2 3 4 4 6 5 8 6 10" 4th setting "5 2 2 3 6 4 10 5 15 6 22" I have not been able to find any information on the defaults database, in any of the books I own. I am not sure what a valid setting might be, and do not see any obvious relationships between the 4 values, to get a reasonable guess from. If anyone has tryed this before and has knows the valid range, or knows where to find information on the defaults database, please let me know.Thanks for the help. Jonathan Gardner jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Homebrew list Date: 17 Jul 1994 15:40:16 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <30bjd0$2k2@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <774151984-0-15637@helios1.phy.ohiou.edu> Tim Kresse (kresse@chop.isca.uiowa.edu) wrote: : Heh, lost my address for the homebrew list, could someone either mail me the : address or, heck, just add the address below to it. email to: maiser@mmg.im.med.umich.edu message text: sub nsi-homebrew (to subscribe) or : unsub nsi-homebrew (to unsubscribe) Gary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 13W3 to VGA adaptor? Date: 17 Jul 1994 12:05:30 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <30bksa$1gn@acmex.gatech.edu> Is there any converter out there to go from a NeXT cube NeXTDimension baord (I think it's called a 13W3) to an IBM style multisync VGA plug? Thanks, -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332 CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202 Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail WELCOME!
From: damonc@hookup.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SLIP/UUCP NeXTMAIL Setup? Date: 17 Jul 94 12:48:34 Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA Distribution: fj Message-ID: <root.94Jul17124834@damonc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I am running TransSys SLIP 1.9 and UUCP (not at once :)...when I try to send mail when I am SLIP connected, the mail bounces with a: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 mailhost (ether)... 550 Host unknown 554 damonc@hookup.net... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server) What's the deal? What I'd like to be able to do is get my USENET news and NeXTMAIL via UUCP (I have it set up in cron and on-demand when outgoing mail is ready from NeXTMAIL) but have both NeXTMAIL and USENET news via SLIP if I'm connected. Anybody have such a setup on a stand-alone machine that would like to give a few pointers (offer config files :)? Thanks! Damon Cooper Aetna Canada damonc@hookup.net
From: damonc@hookup.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Compaq XE 560: Sound Problem & Other Tidbits Date: 17 Jul 94 13:19:08 Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA Distribution: fj Message-ID: <root.94Jul1713198@damonc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Anyone able to get sound to work on a Compaq XE 560? Compaq claims the settingtings are DMA 1, IRQ 10, address 0534h, but this does not work for me. I have an Adaptec 1542CF and Intel TokenExpress 16 (ISA) and no luck. However, when I use DMA 0 with the suggested IRQ, I get sound, but it repeats exactly 8 (eight) times. When I use DMA 0 and IRQ 7, I get sound that repeats EXACTLY 4 (four) times! Anybody got this licked? PS: I have overcome several other obstacles with this machine, after spending a couple hours on the phone with Compaq and NeXT, including recognition of memory over 16MB (no BIOS setting is available to switch to linear memory, like other Compaq models), "bounce" booting from IDE disk to SCSI and maintainance of two System.devices/Instance0.table files, etc... Also note that the new Compaq mouse does NOT work with NEXTSTEP...have to get the older one (both are PS/2 style)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Good site for NEXTIME playable movies? Message-ID: <1994Jul17.193834.2385@rna.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 19:38:34 GMT Do people know a good site for movies that can be played with NEXTIME? I am referring to ftp sites of course. Anything that is fun to see will do. Thanks, -- gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: WANTED: optimal NS platform advice Date: 18 Jul 1994 02:58:45 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <30ck45$i6f@alf.uib.no> Hi. I wanted to ask the nets wisdom on what platform I should rely on as my future NeXTStep machine. I currently have a 040 Cube with a HP 1GB sisk, 16MB core, CD-ROM (NeXT), NeXTLaser printer, etc. I have an oppourtunity to trade up to an Intel or HP, and am having a difficult time deciding. It seems that PC's are cheap, easy to fix, easy to find standard parts for at low prices, and are capeable of running DOS, Windoze, OS/2, NeXTStep, and Linux. Good points. However, it also seems that for _good_ PC hardware the price is equal to workstations, that there are much more often hardware incompatabilities and strange things happening by changing an important element of the system, like the keyboard ;-) (recall the first NS Intel machines from Dell, I beleive, that wouldn't start with the keyboard attatched...) Besides, PC's (and Intel, like MicroSloth) are generelly evil and bad things (tm) ;-) On the other side, the HP is a new hardware platform with a new OS port - the risks for bugs are large, it uses lots of proprietary hardware at HP's inflated prices (like boot disks and RAM...) and "only" runs HP-UX (hmmmmm...) and NS (if the beta keeps working :-) It seems (I don't know, actually) that the HP must be an order of magnitude faster than a PC (isn't this the same architecture of the infamous Snake machines???) both on compute intensive, disk access and graphics. This makes for a much faster (and nicer :-) NS box. HP does offer upgrades on hardware, and educational discounts. I have no idea how hard it will be to get a "generic" (i.e. Apple CD-300) CD-ROM to work on it (drivers already in NS?), or external hard disks, or printers, etc. I know regarding value that a PC loses 50% value the moment you pay for it, I don't know how HP is. In the event I sold my "new" system in a few years, it would be nice to lose as little as possible on my current investment. New software on the HP may mean waiting (like with the original cube) for software, new MAB versions, and bug fixes. Anyone know what is currently available? Also difficult as NeXT hasn't released the cros-platform development tools for HP - if you don't have one, you can't develop for it... The Intel port is getting stable and most apps have been ported. I've also heard some rumours about "artifacting" on the video display of the HP with NS because of the colour rendition system HP uses - doesn't sound good. Any concrete information (you've seen it or use it) would be nice. My first reaction is to go with a 712/60 at 1028x748 and upgrade the VRAM when finance allows, but I'm wondering if my first reaction is too far gone... Well, what I need from a machine at this time is a working platform to complete my dissertation - I don't have time or patience for bug fixes or 3 month wait while a company sees if they will port or not. The apps I use most (daily) are: FrameMaker, DataPhile, Stuart (Hi Scott!), Virtuoso, Diagram2, SLIP, am, NXFax, etc etc. I.e. "productivity" work. I like having the complete developer system available, and when I get the time I do even use it, albeit lightly. I do like (read: need) to be able to compile sources both NeXT apps and generic unix stuff from the net. I need my ZyXEL to work with it, and I need a printer as well, without any hassles. Some time (later) I'll need a CD-ROM for upgrading, etc. I'd really appreciate if people with experience from one or more of these platforms (i.e. you have or use one, were at expo, have a HP beta, work for NeXT, etc) would _e-mail_ a few lines with what I should consider as an optimal choice, and why. I will summarize to the Net if there is interest. I will consider all replies as confidential, unless otherwise stated. Sorry this is so long. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: ftp.next.com Message-ID: <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 14:20:33 GMT Anyone else noticed that this seems to have lost all its files? I noticed at 6 am (BST), and they are still absent. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: cosc19vt@marge.cc.uh.edu (Wladislaw Szwab) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: OS2 SCSI drivers ? Date: 18 Jul 1994 07:13:04 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <30da20$pnd@masala.cc.uh.edu> -- *********************************************************** * Konrad W. SZWAB * TK-421 - Warhammer * * 8619 Ariel * First Imperial Temporal Division * * Houston, TX 77074 * 17th Heavy Tank Group, Unit 1210 * * U.S.A. * AERGISTAL * *---------------------------------------------------------* * cosc19vt@simpsons.cc.UH.EDU * *---------------------------------------------------------* *NOTE: I collect junk: dead drives, monitors, motherboards* *Instead of throwing it away, you might sell it to me. * ***********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: uuencode to send files Message-ID: <1994Jul17.142533.6406@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <305uv0$jve@news.tamu.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 14:25:33 GMT In article <305uv0$jve@news.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes: > In article <305kvc$ic9@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, > Gregory B Howland <gregory@nukestep.mit.edu> wrote: > >What is the correct format to send a file to > >someone using uuencode? The man pages say: > > > > uuencode [ source ] remotedest | mail sys1!sys2!..!decode > > > >I assume that "remotedest" is the recipients email address, > >and that "source" is the file to be sent. What does the > >"sys1!sys2!..!decode" mean? And where is the proper place > >to put the -s command to include a subject line? > > > "remotedest" is the name the decoded file will have upon > decoding on the remote machine (or wherever the encoded file > is decoded). "source" and "remotedest" will therefore often > be the same. > > I don't know what the sys1!sys2! is, but the "decode" as > used above assumes that the system to which you are sending > the mail has a system alias called "decode" set up (a "user") > such that mail sent to "decode" is piped to uudecode. I'm > no expert on system security, but it's my uneducated opinion > that this would be a Bad Thing(TM), and therefore unlikely > to be implemented on most systems. Quite so. > The command as you are more likely to use it, then, would > look more like: > > uuencode [ source ] remotedest | mail -s [ user ] > > and the user would have to manually uudecode upon receipt. For example: uuencode filename < /tmp/myfile | mail gregory@nukestep.mit.edu -s "Uuencoded file" Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Date: 18 Jul 1994 07:59:41 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <30dcpd$qmc@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Anyone else noticed that this seems to have lost all its files? > >I noticed at 6 am (BST), and they are still absent. > I noticed it too. You must be using GatorFTP+. I tried with regular old "ftp". It appears the files are there when you do a "ls" listing. If I do a "dir" or "ls -l" I get nothing. I transfered a few files the hard way, so they haven't been zapped. The version number of FTP that responds on ftp.next.com seems the same, so its not obvious whats been mucked up. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Message-ID: <Ct4ooC.LGM@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:52:59 GMT In article <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes: > Anyone else noticed that this seems to have lost all its files? > > I noticed at 6 am (BST), and they are still absent. > > Paul > -- Ditto -- Regards David Knight FFC Software and Systems Limited 351 London Road Phone: +44 (0)702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: +44 (0)702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Date: 18 Jul 1994 13:55:54 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <30e1la$88b@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <30dcpd$qmc@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <30dcpd$qmc@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: > In article <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk>, > Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >Anyone else noticed that this seems to have lost all its files? > > > >I noticed at 6 am (BST), and they are still absent. > > > > I noticed it too. You must be using GatorFTP+. I tried with > regular old "ftp". It appears the files are there when you do > a "ls" listing. If I do a "dir" or "ls -l" I get nothing. > > I transfered a few files the hard way, so they haven't been zapped. > The version number of FTP that responds on ftp.next.com seems the same, > so its not obvious whats been mucked up. > > > > -- > Jerry S. Weiss > j-weiss@nwu.edu > Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois > %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire This problem can be experienced on several other FTP sites. I suspect that Gator FTP+ cannot follow remote mounted directories. This is a pain because more and more FTP sites (including my own) are going this way. Perhaps Gator should be fixed? ---------------------------------------------------- W.F. Clocksin, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable) Tel UK: (0223) 334628. Tel (Int'l): +44 223-334628. Fax UK: (0223) 334678. Fax (Int'l): +44 223-334678.
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: *** URGENT *** need for user-level trainer in NC 7/19-7/21 Date: 18 Jul 1994 10:19:50 -0500 Organization: Proxima, Inc. Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9407181513.AA13780@proxima.com> I have a client who needs a trainer on site this Tuesday, wednesday and Thursday in Cherry Point, NC (near Atlantic Beach and Havelock). Tues and Wed are basic, user-level training (i.e. Workspace, Mail, Edit, Librarian), with more advanced user training on Thursday (i.e. basic shell commands, simple NetInfo, SoftPC configuration). None of this is heavy lifting. If you are in the area, and are available, PLEASE contact me at (703) 506-1661. If I am not in the office when you call, have my secretary SkyPage me. Thanks. -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Director, Network Services McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh @ Goldman, Sachs & Co ) Subject: Re: KISS software patents goodbye. Message-ID: <Ct56AK.Bt@fi.gs.com> Sender: news@fi.gs.com (Netnews Administrator) Organization: Goldman, Sachs & Co References: <jgraceCsqzwq.7tA@netcom.com> <2vuavo$5na@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jgraceCsuEEL.EnC@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 15:13:32 GMT In article <jgraceCsuEEL.EnC@netcom.com> jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) writes: >>Patents are a necessary evil. > >Seriously, that's why people write business plans. If you come >up with an effective business plan, you "should" not have that >problem. In reality, that's what business (and business risk) is >all about. Hell, that's what everything anyone takes seriously >is about: risk versus reward. Patents do not solve the business >planning "risk versus reward" issue, even for patent-based >endeavors. > >Instead, they simply add a new level of exposure, that of patent >infringement. And that's exactly where patents become a problem. >They increase risk for entrepreneurs by exposing them to an >entirely new set of risks, those of "patent infringement" >lawsuits. > Can anyone tell me what's involved in software patents, what can be patented and how to acquire patents ? :-). I'm serious, I am working on a computer software that I plan to release and would really appreciate any info.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Date: 18 Jul 1994 15:43:42 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <30e7ve$l8e@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes: > Anyone else noticed that this seems to have lost all its files? > > I noticed at 6 am (BST), and they are still absent. I think that what's really happening is that the "ls" command on ftp.next.com has been changed. If you specify *any* option to the command (such as "-l"), you won't get anything back. Note that the "dir" command of ftp basically does a "ls -l", so if you use the dir command then you won't see anything. So you can still find stuff, but you have to use the regular ftp command (as opposed to some nice front-end), and you can not give command options to the "ls" command. You can give file names, or file name patterns, but not options. Hopefully they will change this back. I already sent a message to nextanswers-request@next.com, hoping that's the right people to tell the problem to. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: beda@fnal.gov (Joseph Beda) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PCI SCSI? Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:35:39 GMT Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL Message-ID: <30eehb$t2a@fnnews.fnal.gov> I'm putting together a new P5-90 system with PCI. I'm wondering if anyone knows of any drivers for PCI SCSI cards. What about the new Adaptec PCI SCSI? Will and when will these be supported? Thanks, Joe Beda beda@calvin.fnal.gov (jbeda@hmc.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mstrock@eskimo.com (Mike Strock) Subject: Setting up tcp/ip connectivity on NextStep/486 3.1 Message-ID: <Ct5I0C.6so@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever I have the eval edition of NextStep486 v3.1 installed on my machine here and it is working well. I have a Etherlink III (3COM) net board and I'd like to connect to our Internet server so I couan read and send Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:26:32 GMT mail and read newsgroups. I have access to the following information: my IP address my Domain Name Server address my Default Gateway Address Could someone explain to me HOW to use the above to set myself up for use here. I am very un-Unix literate, and just learning about NeXTStep. Email would probably be best. Thanks! Mike Strock mstrock@eskimo.com NeXTStep/486 Neophyte.
From: mmaann@oxygen.engin.umich.edu (Piu Francis Man) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTCube for sale Date: 18 Jul 1994 20:53:45 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: world Message-ID: <30eq4pINNgr1@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Originator: mmaann@oxygen.engin.umich.edu Hello! I have a NeXTCube for sale. The configuration is as follows: - 68040 25MHz NeXTCube - 16M Ram on board - 17" NeXT MegaPixel Display (Perfect Condition) - Mouse and Keyboard (Perfect Condition) - 520M 3-1/2" Half Height Fujisu Hard Drive (still have 4yrs warrentee) - External DIT Cube Floppy 2.0 - NeXT 400DPI Laser Printer (Excellent condition, used for a month) - NeXTStep 3.1 and other software packages The whole system is in excellent condition, for home used only. I am asking for $2800 + shipping or best offer. For those who interest, please feel free to send me an e-mail. My e-mail address is mmaann@engin.umich.edu.
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Using NeXTs as intercomms? Date: 18 Jul 1994 22:47:11 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <30f0pf$khn@hub.ucsb.edu> Does anyone know of a way to use NeXTs as intercomms, i.e., being able to speak into the builtin mike on one, and have it immediately play back on another? This is trivial on a SPARC machine -- you simply cat to the audio device -- is there an equivalent way on the NeXT? And yes I know I would have to set the Public Sound Server. Thanks in advance! -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: jason@dbkit.com (Jason Beaver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse Date: 19 Jul 1994 00:33:32 GMT Organization: OARnet Distribution: usa Message-ID: <30f70s$gp9@ns.oar.net> References: <30ai3u$rb8@portal.gmu.edu> In article <30ai3u$rb8@portal.gmu.edu> jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner) writes: > > 1st setting "1 1 1" > 2nd setting "5 1 1 6 2 7 3 8 5 9 7" > 3rd setting "5 2 2 3 4 4 6 5 8 6 10" > 4th setting "5 2 2 3 6 4 10 5 15 6 22" > The first number is the number of pairs which follow. The pairs relate the number of mouse pixels moved to the number of screen pixels to move the cursor. i.e. for the 4th setting, there are 5 pairs: 2 mouse pixels = 2 screen pixels, 3 mouse pixels = 6 screen pixels, 4 mouse pixels = 10 screen pixels, 5 mouse pixels = 15 screen pixels, 6 mouse pixels = 22 screen pixels for fun, try dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "1 1 100" or dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "5 1 100 2 70 3 40 4 10 5 1" logout and back in to see the effect... -- ----- Jason Beaver Software Engineer, Vanguard Software, Corp. Phone: (513) 755-9929 Fax: (513) 755-9980 jason@dbkit.com (NeXTMail accepted)
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.d,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD Sample Recording Quality Date: 18 Jul 1994 21:41:45 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9407190029.AA01671@himal> > I'd like to get better playback quality from the short samples that I record > from CDs. I'm running a wire from the CD ROM to a NeXT soundbox mike input. > I've tried the various recording utilities, i.e., Mail, YASE, etc., with > disappointing results. I have a feeling that the NeXT soundbox is the weak > link in the chain. > No, it isn't. The weak link, if you can call it that, is the NeXT's A/D converter. It samples in mono, at 8kHz, using 8-bit CODEC encoding. Given that CDs are 16CDs are 16-bit stereo 44kHz, maybe you'll see where the degredation's coming from... Although you'll doubtless be introducing further degradation through mismatched levels between the CD output and NeXT input... The NeXT will play back CD-quality sounds, but for various reasons was not designed to record at CD-quality. > Is there anyway to sample CDs and get excellent sound quality playback without > additional hardware? > If you are able to somehow do direct bit copying from the CD via SCSI, maybe yes: I think I saw somebody post a way of doing this a while back... but in general it seems unlikely. There are specialised tools and software packages available for doing this sort of thing (e.g. we have Singular Solutions' AD64x), but as far as I'm aware your only other option is to do what you're aleady doing and involve analogue somewhere. Even to do this you'll need extra kit for the NeXT. Using a PC running NEXTSTEP with a suitably endowed PC soundcard would be an alternative option... Have fun, mmalcolm. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (no NeXTMail, please) ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1015 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Message-ID: <1994Jul19.083406.16276@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 08:34:06 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik In article <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk> writes: > Anyone else noticed that this seems to have lost all its files? > > I noticed at 6 am (BST), and they are still absent. > > Paul > -- > Paul Lynch > P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk > Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, > Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK The problem is that GatorFTP+ unfortunately won't follow soft links. It seems to parse the incoming text and sort out only what it knows of. This has caused many problems with several ftp sites. Of course, if the ls -<option> command won't deliver any text, nothing can show in the browsers. -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: lukeh@zola.apana.org.au (Luke Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: WANTED: optimal NS platform advice Followup-To: comp.sys.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 18 Jul 1994 21:56:45 +1000 Organization: Zola - Linux - Melbourne, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <30dqlt$70@zola.apana.org.au> References: <30ck45$i6f@alf.uib.no> Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : Hi. : I wanted to ask the nets wisdom on what platform I should rely on : as my future NeXTStep machine. I currently have a 040 Cube with : a HP 1GB sisk, 16MB core, CD-ROM (NeXT), NeXTLaser printer, etc. Hmm... don't suppose anyone is planning on an HP or other RISC (obviously NS-supporting architecture which is just HP at the moment I assume) upgrade board for the cubes? Saw the login screen on the HP beta the other day. How impressive :-) Didn't get to play with it tho... luke. -- Luke Howard, Luke.Howard@apana.org.au URL http://zola.apana.org.au/0/zola/people Utilisez Linux!!!
From: jjfox@aol.com (JJFOX) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PCI SCSI? Date: 19 Jul 1994 12:16:04 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <30gu84$ilf@search01.news.aol.com> According to Talus, a driver for the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller should be available soon. I have just purchased a Gateway P5-90 system and am waiting for the drivers for the 2940 and the ATI Graphics Pro Turbo so I can install NSFIP.
From: jdh@bucrf1.bu.edu (Jason Heirtzler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Reading NeXT CDROM on SGI drive Date: 19 Jul 1994 17:27:14 GMT Organization: Boston University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30h2di$ahr@news.bu.edu> References: <1994Jul11.193740.11351@integrity.uucp> <30815b$s4b@gazette.esd.sgi.com> >| Supposedly, it is possible to tar off files from a NeXT format CDROM. >| When I try: tar -xvf /dev/dsk/dks0d3s7, >| I get ye'ole "invalid checksum" error, which usually indicates byte >| swapping problems, but can indicate just about anything. That sounds real doubtful that any vendor would use 'tar' as a raw filesystem format. Maybe it's tar files on an ISO9660 filesystem? You might start looking at the raw bytes on the CDROM partition to confirm this yourself with 'od' and see if it looks like a 'tar' archive, but I'm suspicious.. -- Jason Heirtzler // Scientific Computing & Visualization jdh@bu.edu (617)-353-2780 // Boston University "A frostbitten saga of forged lift tickets, empty ketchup bottles, and old rabbit carcasses." -- Warren Miller
From: drudoff@axys2.mccaw.com (Doug Rudoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How do I update terminal title bar? Date: 19 Jul 1994 20:56:02 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <30hel2$jii@ftp-p.mccaw.com> When running the terminal application I'd like my current working directory displayed in the title bar (as I've done with other window based operating systems). Is there anyway to update the title bar? //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ doug.rudoff@mccaw.com \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HP info and printer drivers Date: 19 Jul 1994 21:57:10 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <30hi7m$f2b@news.tamu.edu> Keywords: Hewlett-Packard FYI, HP has a Mosaic server with HP product information at URL <http://www.hp.com/>; you can also phone 1-800-752-0900 in the U.S. Various printer drivers are available via anonymous FTP from 'ftp-boi.external.hp.com'. Enjoy! -- Walter C. Daugherity Dept. of Computer Science Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.d,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD Sample Recording Quality Date: 19 Jul 1994 23:43:18 GMT Organization: welcome to nowhere... Message-ID: <CHRIS.94Jul20014318arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch> References: <9407190029.AA01671@himal> In-reply-to: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp's message of 18 Jul 1994 21:41:45 -0500 Originator: ARKIN@nice In article <9407190029.AA01671@himal> mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford) writes: > If you are able to somehow do direct bit copying from the CD via SCSI, maybe yes: > I think I saw somebody post a way of doing this a while back... but in general it > seems unlikely. There are several CDRom drives (from Toshiba, Apple...) which can output audio data over the SCSI interface. This way you get a digital copy of the CD onto your harddrive, no specialised hardware (except the CDRom drive) is needed... christian
From: chi@kaiwan.com (LCC) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: BBS program??? Date: 19 Jul 1994 17:28:17 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/452-9166) Message-ID: <30hr31$4g6@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Hi, I am currently running a fidonet BBS and I would like to see if there is any BBS softwares available under NeXTSTEP. Are there any precompiled Waffle BBS for NS/fip right now? Where can I download them?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pat%cesar@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde) Subject: Info for French sites Message-ID: <1994Jul20.012608.12395@cesar.uucp> Sender: pat@cesar.uucp Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 01:26:08 GMT I am posting this for a friend of mine. Please reply directly to him since he doesn't have ftp access. Thanks in advance. Patrique --------- Can anyone email me the address(es) of an archive site(s) in France that has a NeXT or NEXSTEP section. Thanks -Andre Reply to: al@lala.cam.org (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: WANTED: optimal NS platform advice Message-ID: <Ct824M.Kz0@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <30ck45$i6f@alf.uib.no> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 04:36:22 GMT In article <30ck45$i6f@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: >Hi. > >I wanted to ask the nets wisdom on what platform I should rely on >as my future NeXTStep machine. I currently have a 040 Cube with >a HP 1GB sisk, 16MB core, CD-ROM (NeXT), NeXTLaser printer, etc. > >I have an oppourtunity to trade up to an Intel or HP, and am having >a difficult time deciding. > >It seems that PC's are cheap, easy to fix, easy to find standard >parts for at low prices, and are capeable of running DOS, Windoze, >OS/2, NeXTStep, and Linux. Good points. However, it also seems >that for _good_ PC hardware the price is equal to workstations, >that there are much more often hardware incompatabilities and >strange things happening by changing an important element of the >system, like the keyboard ;-) (recall the first NS Intel machines >from Dell, I beleive, that wouldn't start with the keyboard attatched...) >Besides, PC's (and Intel, like MicroSloth) are generelly evil and >bad things (tm) ;-) I did exactly that (Cube->Intel). The NeXT's were (and are) very elegant. If I could have afforded it I would have kept the Cube. But if you are going to change, and you don't have unlimited funds, or you aren't in the MCA craze, then I strongly feel that Intel is the way to go. Workstations are expensive to maintain, expensive service, expensive everything. My advice is to stick with a computer with a huge installed base, which will only get less expensive, etc...I have NS installed on a nameless 486DX/2-66. It works great and in colour! The only expensive items were the monitor (get a good monitor) and RAM. Hard drives have come down in price. In any case, the Intel world is not as bad as some would have you believe. The resale value of any computer is low. [ ] -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Message-ID: <1994Jul18.201932.10020@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <30dcpd$qmc@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 20:19:32 GMT In article <30dcpd$qmc@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: > In article <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk>, > Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >Anyone else noticed that this seems to have lost all its files? > > > >I noticed at 6 am (BST), and they are still absent. > > > > I noticed it too. You must be using GatorFTP+. I tried with > regular old "ftp". It appears the files are there when you do > a "ls" listing. If I do a "dir" or "ls -l" I get nothing. > > I transfered a few files the hard way, so they haven't been zapped. > The version number of FTP that responds on ftp.next.com seems the same, > so its not obvious whats been mucked up. Sorry; I use the regular ftp client, as well as ncftp. I can't get GatorFTP to work reliably for me, so I use Archie if I need a gui. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Message-ID: <1994Jul19.185851.912@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <30e7ve$l8e@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 18:58:51 GMT In article <30e7ve$l8e@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes: > > Anyone else noticed that this seems to have lost all its files? > > > > I noticed at 6 am (BST), and they are still absent. > > I think that what's really happening is that the "ls" command > on ftp.next.com has been changed. If you specify *any* option > to the command (such as "-l"), you won't get anything back. > Note that the "dir" command of ftp basically does a "ls -l", > so if you use the dir command then you won't see anything. > > So you can still find stuff, but you have to use the regular > ftp command (as opposed to some nice front-end), and you can > not give command options to the "ls" command. You can give > file names, or file name patterns, but not options. > > Hopefully they will change this back. I already sent a message > to nextanswers-request@next.com, hoping that's the right people > to tell the problem to. This sounds like it. Despite all the assumptions, I don't use GatorFTP. What I am doing, however, is using mirror (a widely used set of perl scripts) to mirror the NeXTanswers archive. Without dir working correctly, mirror can't work. It seems rather irritating that NeXT should change their ftp system so that other sites can't mirror NeXTanswers. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C McAfee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MEETING: Bay Area NeXT Group - Thursday July 21 - Pages Date: 20 Jul 1994 07:33:20 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <30ik00$m6k@Times.Stanford.EDU> BANG Meeting Thursday July 21st, 7:00pm, SLAC Auditorium Agenda: Following announcements and a technical Q&A free-for-all, Pages will be showing "Easy Pages". We will retire to a restaurant for food and drink at about 9:00pm. Directions: >From I280, take Sand Hill Road East. At the second traffic light, >turn right. Tell the sentry you are going to the main auditorium, >and he will point you toward the correct parking lot. For more information, contact Mike Gabrys, BANG President-elect, at mmg@tellurium.sf.ca.us.
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Date: 20 Jul 1994 08:33:04 GMT Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <30ing0$b1k@rosie.next.com> References: <30e7ve$l8e@usenet.rpi.edu> <1994Jul19.185851.912@seer.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Versions: makemail 2.3a Cc: In article <1994Jul19.185851.912@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >It seems rather irritating that NeXT should change their ftp system so >that other sites can't mirror NeXTanswers. > Of course we didn't do that. Something was broken, we fixed it. As an fyi, we use mirror.pl to mirror ftp.next.com also! --Dan
From: pom@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: Objective-C interface to Versant? Date: 20 Jul 1994 08:43:28 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <30io3h$qn5@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Can anyone tell me about the Objective-C interface to Versant? Answer by email, I'll post a summary. -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet D-55101 Mainz, Germany
From: pom@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: EOF vs. AccessKit vs. OO-Database? Date: 20 Jul 1994 08:57:38 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <30iou2$qrj@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> I'm interested in a comparision between three approaches to make objects persistent: - Object-oriented database (OODB, e.g. POET, Versant, O2, IDB, ...) - AccessKit + relational DB - Enterprise Object Framework (EOF) Questions: 1. What are the differences between AccessKit and EOF? 2. Does EOF (or AccessKit) + relational DB make the use of an OODB obsolete? 3. What kind of relational DB does EOF (or AccessKit) need (or even flatfile or IXKit or dBASE)? Any DB with a DBKit Adaptor? Or are there more specific requirements? -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet D-55101 Mainz, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hessman@wotan.uni-sw.gwdg.de (Frederic Hessman) Subject: OO-Conference Message-ID: <M1SQBKCN@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 09:21:25 GMT Announcement "OBJECT-ORIENTED COMPUTING IN THE NATURAL SCIENCES" A Multi-disciplinary Conference on the Next Generation of Scientific Computing Environments to be held at the European Molecular Biology Laboratory Heidelberg, Germany on 22-25 November, 1994 Purpose: -------- To bring together scientists from many different fields involved or interested in Object-Oriented Computing. Motivation: ----------- Most of the scientific computing being done all over the world today uses the classic resources made available during the heyday of mainframe computers and the introduction of relatively simple graphical user interfaces (X11). However, the amounts of data being processed has exploded over the past decade, straining the capabilities of standard methods and program packages. The natural scientist can no longer flexibly analyze the available data because only specialized solutions to particular problems are available - she/he spends much of her/his time worrying about how to get to a particular goal rather than what it means to have attained it. The new generations of object-oriented (OO) computer languages and systems promise to free the users from much of this archaic computational burden but are being developed mainly with commercial applications in mind. Now that the vendors of OO technology are beginning to cooperate (e.g. OpenStep*, CORBA) and/or are offering the same systems on many hardware platforms (e.g. NEXTSTEP* on Intel PC's and Sun and HP workstations), the time has come to focus on what OUR needs are and how they might be implemented in the near future on available systems. An exchange of information with the academic and commercial developers of OO systems needed. Because theoretical discussions and academic exercises are unlikely to bear fruits on timescales of interest to the active researcher, this conference has as its underlying goal the discussion and formulation of concrete measures which might enable us to begin using the fruits of OO software-technology soon. Finally, this conference is intended to provide a forum in which current OOP projects - both scientific and commercial -- can be displayed, discussed, and compared in the hopes that we might all profit from the experience of others. *) "NEXTSTEP" and "OpenStep" are registered trademarks of NeXT Inc. Conference Format: ------------------ In order to promote discussion, each day will start with a few invited talks (45min) and a very small number of contributed talks (15min), followed by panel discussions. The afternoons will be filled with time for working groups, seminars, poster sessions, demonstrations, and a vendor fair. Invited Talks (preliminary): ---------------------------- - (OODB), TBA - TBA, P. Lipps (NeXT Germany) - "NeXT, NEXTSTEP, and Object Oriented Development: The Lies, The Truth, and how to win big in the 1990's.", S. Garfinkel - (Geology), TBA, D. Coyle (Max-Planck-Institut fuer Kernphysik, Heidelberg) - (Astrophysics), TBA - (Ecology), TBA - (Molecular Biology), C.Sander, M.Nilges (EMBL) Panel Discussions (preliminary): ------------------------------- - Object-oriented databases (OODB) - File, data, and Object formats - Mathematical abstractions - Visual metaphors in a scientific Object environment - Using Objects in a heterogeneous world Suggested Topics and Working Groups: ------------------------------------ - The benefits of OO technologies for science and education - Visualization of complex Objects and mathematical abstractions - OODB and interactive information systems (e.g. WAIS, WWW) - Current object-oriented computing environments (e.g. NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, SmallTalk-80, ET++) - OO & parallel computing - Computer-mediated collaborative environments - A 3-day Case-Study Project Demonstrations (preliminary): ----------------------------- - The SciTools Project (EMBL, Heidelberg) - Data-Visualization using HOPI (ARTEMIS-IMAG, Grenoble) - NEXTSTEP on Intel, HP, and Sun hardware (NeXT Germany) Sponsors (preliminary): ----------------------- - European Molecular Biology Laboratory, Heidelberg, Germany - Hewlett-Packard GmbH, Germany - NeXT GmbH, Germany - Sun GmbH, Germany Contact Addresses: ------------------ Local: OO-Conference@embl-heidelberg.de Georg Tuparev (Tuparev@embl-heidelberg.de, NeXTMail) Michael Nilges (Nilges@embl-heidelberg.de, NeXTMail) Dinu Gherman (Gherman@embl-heidelberg.de, NeXTMail) European Molecular Biology Laboratory Meyerhofstr.1, D-69117 Heidelberg, Germany Phone: +49-6221-387528, Fax: +49-6221-387517 Other: Frederic V. Hessman (hessman@uni-sw.gwdg.de) Universitaets-Sternwarte Geismarlandstr. 11, D-37083 Goettingen, Germany Phone: +49-551-395052, Fax: +49-551-395043 Jacques Lemordant (Jacques.Lemordant@imag.fr) ARTEMIS-IMAG, BP 53, F-38041 Grenoble Cedex 9, France Phone: +33-76514498, Fax: +33-76638423 Deadlines: ---------- Sept. 15, 1994 - registration (via e-mail if possible) Sept. 30, 1994 - registration fee payment (see below) Oct. 15, 1994 - receipt of abstracts Dec. 31, 1994 - receipt of papers (ASCII, RTF, LaTeX, Framemaker) Fees: ----- DM 230,- (normal) DM 130,- (students; identification will be required at registration!) These fees are necessary in order to cover printing costs (abstracts, the program of the conference, and one copy of the proceedings per participant), coffee during the breaks, the travel expenses of invited speakers, and the conference dinner. Payment should be made via Bank transfer to "Conference: Object Oriented Programming in the Natural Sciences" on the following account (BLZ = "Bankleitzahl", the Bank's ID number; "Konto" = Account number): Landeszentralbank Heidelberg Poststr. 11 D-69117 Heidelberg BLZ 672 00 000 Konto 672 02 400 Sorry: we don't have the time or the personpower to handle credit cards! Hotel and other Information: ---------------------------- EMBL is located halfway up the Koenigstuhl "mountain" (525m) above the part of Heidelberg called "Rohrbach" (a map of Heidelberg showing the location of EMBL and a few hotels will be available soon via WWW and anonymous ftp (ftp.embl-heidelberg.de) in the file: /pub/sci-tools/OO-conference-94/HeidelbergMap.gif.gz Most of the hotels are located in and around the old part of the city but EMBL can be easily reached via taxi (about DM 14,-), city bus number 21 (DM 3,- one-way), and a special EMBL shuttle will be running. We will send out more details about getting to EMBL in October to all registered participants. The WWW server will be available in mid August. Given the fact that Heidelberg is a major tourist attraction (castle, old bridge, university, and the Neckar Valley), one should make hotel reservations as soon as possible. For reservation (and other technical) information, contact: Nelly van der Jagt European Molecular Biology Laboratory Meyerhofstrasse 1 D-69117 Heidelberg Germany Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387361 Fax: +49 - 6221 - 387517 E-mail: Jagt@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (no NeXT mail please!) Heidelberg can be easily reached via train (ICE express train to and from nearby Mannheim) or via bus from Frankfurt International Airport (Lufthansa runs a bus service for anyone interested which leaves from the area just outside of the baggage-claim exit). WWW Conference server: --------------------- We hope to have a WWW Conference registration server running after August 20, in which case you won't have to fill out the following: Registration Form: ------------------ Please send the following form via e-mail to: OO-Conference@embl-heidelberg.de. Those of you without access to internet can send or FAX it to EMBL (see the FAX number and address above). There will be very few contributed talks, so indicate if you would object to presenting a poster instead. We will try to have enough Workstations for those wishing to organize non-commercial demonstrations. Commercial vendors should try to organize their own hardware. ________________________ cut here_______________________________ Name: Affiliation: Address: FAX: E-Mail: Student? (Y/N): Commercial Vendor? (Y/N): Field (e.g. Biology, OODB): Poster? (Y/N): Title of Poster: Contributed Talk? (Y/N): Title of Contributed Talk: Talk -> Poster OK? (Y/N): I am mostly interested in the following topics: I would like to participate in a panel discussion on: I would like to participate in a seminar on: I would like to participate in a working group on: Participation in the 3-day case study? (Y/N): I suggest the case-study topic: Non-Commercial demonstration? (Y/N): I will need the following equipment for my demonstration: I will need the following amount of space for my demonstration: Vendor fair? (Y/N): I will need the following equipment for my stand: I will need the following amount of space for my stand: -- ============================ Dr. Frederic V. Hessman Universit"ats-Sternwarte Geismarlandstr. 11 D-37083 G"ottingen Germany hessman@uni-sw.gwdg.de ============================
From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Date: 20 Jul 1994 10:20:15 GMT Organization: WHU Koblenz Message-ID: <30itov$6f4@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de> References: <30e1la$88b@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <30e1la$88b@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) writes: > This problem can be experienced on several other FTP sites. I > suspect that Gator FTP+ cannot follow remote mounted directories. > This is a pain because more and more FTP sites (including my own) > are going this way. Perhaps Gator should be fixed? GatoFTP has problems with links, too. A fix for these problems if definitly necessary. Wolfgang Roeckelein -- Dipl.-Wirtsch.-Inf. Voice: +49 261 6509 173 Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 261 6509 179 WHU Koblenz E-Mail: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de Burgplatz 2 (NeXTmail ok) D-56179 Vallendar Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: managing mail between accounts Message-ID: <1994Jul20.132719.6735@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics Date: Wed, 20 Jul 94 13:27:19 GMT Hi all I am setting up an account for my wife so she can use e-mail. I have an account set up at school in her name, and I was planning to use uucp to move her mail back and forth between school and my home machine (a NeXT). I got looking through the files I need to edit, and they don't look very up to date. For example, the suggested templates all use line speeds of < 9600 baud. Now I could go ahead and set things up the way I think they should be, but this made me wonder if using uucp is kind of old-fashioned, and whether or not there is a better way to arrange it that she can have access to internet mail, but never have to actually log into the machine at school. Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone done this? Mike -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Date: 20 Jul 1994 15:16:52 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <30jf54$n8o@news.iastate.edu> References: <30ing0$b1k@rosie.next.com> I am a little curious about some changes to files on ftp.next.com. We have recently purchased an HP Vectra and will be installing NeXTSTEP on it shortly, so I logged into ftp.next.com early last week to get the lastest drivers before I began the installation. Among other things, I got the HP Vectra LAN Driver (dated June 29, 1994). I was not able to get into ftp.next.com Monday, but when I was able to get in on Tuesday, I noticed that the date of the HP Vectra LAN Driver has now changed to June 3, 1994. What happened? Should I replace the June 3 driver with the June 29 driver that I already have? I would like to be sure of what I am doing before I proceed with the installation. Thanks in advance for any and all help! -- Rod Ragner Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory College of Veterinary Medicine Iowa State University Ames, Iowa 50011
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Date: 20 Jul 1994 16:50:47 -0400 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <30k2n7$aba@digifix.digifix.com> References: <1994Jul19.185851.912@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch writes > This sounds like it. Despite all the assumptions, I don't use GatorFTP. > What I am doing, however, is using mirror (a widely used set of perl > scripts) to mirror the NeXTanswers archive. Without dir working > correctly, mirror can't work. > > It seems rather irritating that NeXT should change their ftp system so > that other sites can't mirror NeXTanswers. We are running Mirror here, and it is working fine with ftp.next.com and NextAnswers. I just mirror the /pub/NeXTanswers/Files directory, since the others are mainly links and the ascii copies. -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!usenet From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Date: 20 Jul 1994 15:16:52 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Lines: 26 Message-ID: <30jf54$n8o@news.iastate.edu> References: <30ing0$b1k@rosie.next.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: stingray.vm.iastate.edu I am a little curious about some changes to files on ftp.next.com. We have recently purchased an HP Vectra and will be installing NeXTSTEP on it shortly, so I logged into ftp.next.com early last week to get the lastest drivers before I began the installation. Among other things, I got the HP Vectra LAN Driver (dated June 29, 1994). I was not able to get into ftp.next.com Monday, but when I was able to get in on Tuesday, I noticed that the date of the HP Vectra LAN Driver has now changed to June 3, 1994. What happened? Should I replace the June 3 driver with the June 29 driver that I already have? I would like to be sure of what I am doing before I proceed with the installation. Thanks in advance for any and all help! -- Rod Ragner Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory College of Veterinary Medicine Iowa State University Ames, Iowa 50011 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!usenet From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Date: 20 Jul 1994 15:16:52 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Lines: 26 Message-ID: <30jf54$n8o@news.iastate.edu> References: <30ing0$b1k@rosie.next.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: stingray.vm.iastate.edu I am a little curious about some changes to files on ftp.next.com. We have recently purchased an HP Vectra and will be installing NeXTSTEP on it shortly, so I logged into ftp.next.com early last week to get the lastest drivers before I began the installation. Among other things, I got the HP Vectra LAN Driver (dated June 29, 1994). I was not able to get into ftp.next.com Monday, but when I was able to get in on Tuesday, I noticed that the date of the HP Vectra LAN Driver has now changed to June 3, 1994. What happened? Should I replace the June 3 driver with the June 29 driver that I already have? I would like to be sure of what I am doing before I proceed with the installation. Thanks in advance for any and all help! -- Rod Ragner Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory College of Veterinary Medicine Iowa State University Ames, Iowa 50011 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!fauern!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!swidir.switch.ch!newsfeed.ACO.net!Austria.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!dockmaster.phantom.com!bruce From: bruce@phantom.com (Bruce Fancher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.admin Subject: Wanted: Steve Job's Voice!!! Date: 20 Jul 1994 17:54:19 GMT Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Lines: 8 Message-ID: <30jocb$ask@dockmaster.phantom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dockmaster.phantom.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Can someone PUH-LEASE send me the email that comes with NeXTstep 2.X with Job's "I want to Welcome you to the NeXT world . . ." lip service in it? I lost mine when we upgraded to 3.2. Thanks bruce
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.admin From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: Wanted: Steve Job's Voice!!! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.admin References: <30jocb$ask@dockmaster.phantom.com> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 00:11:07 GMT Message-ID: <Ct9KIK.LDn@spcuna.spc.edu> Bruce Fancher (bruce@phantom.com) wrote: : Can someone PUH-LEASE send me the email that comes with NeXTstep 2.X with : Job's "I want to Welcome you to the NeXT world . . ." lip service in it? : I lost mine when we upgraded to 3.2. : Thanks : bruce Me too. I have the 3.1 cd's around here somewhere, so if y'all can't find it, I will look. But not for a few... Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.d,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD Sample Recording Quality Date: 20 Jul 1994 21:08:36 -0400 Organization: Brooklyn College Message-ID: <30khqk$v2@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> References: <9407190029.AA01671@himal> someone else said No, it isn't. The weak link, if you can call it that, is the NeXT's A/D convert er. It samples in mono, at 8kHz, using 8-bit CODEC encoding. Given that CDs are 16CDs are 16-bit stereo 44kHz, maybe you'll see where the the above is certainly true. you will need to get an outboard converter such as the AD64x by Singular solutions co. there is no other way. kevin parks the brooklyn college center for computer music .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki) Subject: Q: PNI LINK_stop to automatically perform 'route delete' Message-ID: <1994Jul21.012116.10978@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Keywords: pni,slip Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 01:21:16 GMT Hello, I've been using the PNI 1.9 package without any major problems for quite a while. Occasionally I get a small problem which I believe is originated by the fact that I perform 'route add' at each slip startup (with dynamic IP address allocation). After a few times the routing tables seem to be a mess. I tried to write a LINK_stop script to perform the following: route delete remoteip myip route delete myip localhost where remoteip and myip are automatically extracted from the system setup. Unfortunately due to my incompetence in script programming I failed. Has anyone written a similar script? I would appreciate any hints as to how to accomplish that. Thank you in advance. -- Piotr (Peter) Twarecki B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: falke@iitmax.acc.iit.edu (Falke Bruinsma,007 Stuart,3125675270,3128424270) Subject: NS/I: Serial port questions Message-ID: <30hnm9$f5b@iitmax.acc.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: 19 Jul 1994 18:30:17 -0500 Finally... NS/I has been succesfully installed on my new computer.. (after trying 2 harddrives, 2 motherboards and 2 different video cards) Right now it is running on a 500meg partition, 486dx2/66, diamond viper, adaptec 1542, micropolis 1gig hd and 16meg of ram. However I have a few problems/ questions. First of all I have my serial mouse hooked up to com1 and a hardwired serial connection to a portcontender on com2. Besides that I have a Digicom 14.4 modem on com4.f Well I tried using kermit to connect to the portcontender using com2 (/dev/cufb) however nothing happened. I can run kermit from DOS, hit CTRL-BREAK and get a prompt from the port contender. If I do the same thing from NS/I nothing happens. What could be wrong? How could I fix it? This is what I do: kermit> set modem direct kermit> set line /dev/cufb kermit> set speed 9600 kermit> connect <this is where I hit CTRL \ B to send a break, but nothing happens...> Secondly, is there a way to use my modem that is hooked up on com4? Or let me ask that differently, is there a way I can use, my mouse, hardwired line AND modem from NS/I without having to switch things around? Any help would be appreciated. It would be nice to be able to use NS/I to post a message like this, and not having to switch to MS-Windows.. *shrug* -Falke -- Falke Bruinsma | falke@iitmax.acc.iit.edu (unix) Illinois Institute of Technology | sysfalke@minna.acc.iit.edu (vax/vms) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Programming is like sex, one mistake and you spend a lifetime supporting it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: woo@ra-iris.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Woo) Subject: Sybase?? Message-ID: <1994Jul21.025157.12451@riacs.edu> Sender: news@riacs.edu Organization: Nasa-Ames Research Center Date: Thu, 21 Jul 94 02:51:57 GMT During the early versions of NextStep, a limited Sybase package was bundled in. In those days I didn't have a use for Sybase, now I do. Is there still a version of Sybase for NextStep which works under 3.x of the OS? InterBase? How much? Alex Woo woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov ============================================================== Alex Woo, MS 227-6 http://ccf.arc.nasa.gov/~woo/woo.html NASA Ames Research Center woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 SPANET 24582::WOO (415) 604-6010 (FAX) 604-4357 {hplabs,decwrl,uunet}!ames!woo Disclaimer: These are not official statements of NASA or EMCC. ============================================================== o__ o__ o__ o__ _.>/ _>/ _ _.>/ _.>/ _ (_) \(_)\(_) (_) \(_))\(_) (original cycles by trwagner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu)
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.admin Subject: Re: Wanted: Steve Job's Voice!!! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.admin Date: 21 Jul 1994 04:07:03 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <30ks97$1al@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <30jocb$ask@dockmaster.phantom.com> Bruce Fancher (bruce@phantom.com) wrote: : Can someone PUH-LEASE send me the email that comes with NeXTstep 2.X with : Job's "I want to Welcome you to the NeXT world . . ." lip service in it? : I lost mine when we upgraded to 3.2. This was cut-and-pasted into a sound file called "Jobs Messiah" a while back, mixed in with Handel. You may be able to find the file on cs.orst.edu or nova.cc.purdue.edu. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C McAfee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <30ik00$m6k@Times.Stanford.EDU> Control: cancel <30ik00$m6k@Times.Stanford.EDU> Date: 21 Jul 1994 05:49:40 GMT Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department Message-ID: <30l29k$1fa@Times.Stanford.EDU> <30ik00$m6k@Times.Stanford.EDU> was cancelled from within trn.
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CONF> "A Discussion of Object Technologies", Objectworld Date: 21 Jul 1994 09:22:48 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <30lep8$l6t@relay2.oleane.net> Sounds interesting... Denis __________________________________________________________________________ __ 67.54 Sunergy Satellite Broadcast: Object Technologies From: Vicki.Pedretti@Corp (Vicki Pedretti, Sunergy Program) Live/Interactive Satellite Broadcast "A Discussion of Object Technologies" Live from Objectworld, San Francisco July 28, 1994 8:30 - 10:00 am PDT 11:30 - 1:00 pm EDT Why do people want objects? Who wants them? What is coming down the pike? OpenStep on Solaris. NextStep to SPARC native port. (88 lines) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This and more will be discussed during the Sunergy #10 broadcast with guests: JOHN GAGE (Host) - Director of the Science Office, Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation STEVE JOBS - Chairman and CEO, NeXT Computer, Inc. BILL JOY - Founder and Vice President of Research, Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation CHRIS STONE - President & CEO, Object Management Group, Inc. BUD TRIBBLE - Vice President of Object Products, SunSoft, Inc. In addition, this broadcast will feature excerpts from "An Object Orientation", a play which dramatizes the relationship between life and technology. Also featured will be a LIVE DEMONSTRATION of object technology. This exciting live broadcast will be viewed in over 40 countries. The panel of object computing experts will provide time for audience question and answer and will entertain questions from the worldwide audience via interactive satellite. Don't miss this opportunity to participate in lively discussion regarding the present and future usage of object technology in a variety of arenas. Please notify the Sunergy Office if you will be downlinking the following satellite broadcast. If you have not yet received the satellite coordinates we can provide them to you. If you cannot view live, via satellite, video tapes will be available. Contact Vicki Pedretti in the Sunergy office: EMAIL: sunergy@sun.com PHONE: 415/336-5847 FAX: 415/856-2114 (( Local Information for South Florida: My office in Ft. Lauderdale is sponsoring this event at two locations: Sun Office 500 Cypress Creek Road West Suite 250 Ft. Lauderdale FL 33309 South Florida Water Management District 3301 Gun Club Road West Palm Beach, FL Please call (305) 776 7770 if you plan to attent either of these locations. Note that many Sports bars in the US feature Satellite dishes that can be used to pick up this event. Some will host Sunergy for the extra lunch business! -johnj )) -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French INTERNET provider WWW:http://www.oleane.net/ "Soyez vous memes, reellement, connectes au monde de l'INTERNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki) Subject: New Archie a CPU hog? (Was: ftp.next.com) Message-ID: <1994Jul21.103241.10301@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <1994Jul18.201932.10020@seer.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 10:32:41 GMT In article <1994Jul18.201932.10020@seer.demon.co.uk> paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes: > In article <30dcpd$qmc@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu > (Jerry Weiss) writes: > > In article <1994Jul17.142033.6325@seer.demon.co.uk>, > > Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >Anyone else noticed that this seems to have lost all its files? > > > > > >I noticed at 6 am (BST), and they are still absent. > > > > > > > I noticed it too. You must be using GatorFTP+. I tried with > > regular old "ftp". It appears the files are there when you do > > a "ls" listing. If I do a "dir" or "ls -l" I get nothing. > > > > I transfered a few files the hard way, so they haven't been zapped. > > The version number of FTP that responds on ftp.next.com seems the same, > > so its not obvious whats been mucked up. > > Sorry; I use the regular ftp client, as well as ncftp. I can't get > GatorFTP to work reliably for me, so I use Archie if I need a gui. > > Paul > -- > Paul Lynch > P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk > Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, > Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but I have noticed an annoying problem with Archie. Since a few versions, downloading with Archie has become EXTREMELY CPU expensive. When I start a download, the system begins to crawl. Since I use PNI slip, downloads take a while, so this effectively prevents me from using Archie. I'm curious if anyone else had problems of the same kind. Thanks. -- Piotr (Peter) Twarecki, M.Eng. B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: then/endif missing? Date: 21 Jul 1994 12:39:54 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <30lqaq$7a0@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> Ever since I installed 3.2 on my black hardware, everytime I enter a shell command that uses the r utilities, I get a message that then/endif is missing. Where would this be coming from? e.g. woonext:tarfiles 98 % rcp Guide8-ams.940721.tar.Z polaris: then: then/endif not found. woonext:tarfiles 99 % rsh polaris ls then: then/endif not found. thanks in advance, - - - - - - - - - J. W. Wooten
From: mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Nethack and/or rogue binaries? Date: 21 Jul 1994 13:01:18 GMT Organization: This Space for Rent. Message-ID: <30lriu$ij7@news.acns.nwu.edu> I need the greatest time wasters of all time for a UNIX box. Can anyone help? Or can you give me some pointers on getting the source to compile on my cube. On nethack I couldn't get makedefs.c to compile. And in the rogue source, I was missing a file... -- mallen@nwu.edu Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: NeXT Compatible CD-ROM Drive Followup-To: poster Date: 21 Jul 1994 17:35:28 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <30mbl0$ahl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Keywords: CD-ROM Hi, I believe that the title says it all. I need a NeXT compatible CD-ROM drive. The drive doesn't have to be a NeXT drive, just affordable and compatible. If you have one, or know where I can get one, for a reasonable price, then please reply. Thanks, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- The power of UNIX must prevail. The evil Microsoft must be stopped!! -- NeXTStep, the operating system of the future, today. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/I: Serial port questions Date: 21 Jul 1994 17:40:23 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA) Message-ID: <30mbu7$qse@news.iastate.edu> References: <30hnm9$f5b@iitmax.acc.iit.edu> In article <30hnm9$f5b@iitmax.acc.iit.edu>, Falke Bruinsma,007 Stuart,3125675270,3128424270 <falke@iitmax.acc.iit.edu> wrote: If you have the developer installed, get cd MuxDriverSRC1.4.tar.gz from cs.orst.edu. Don't know if MAB version is on the site. Chris -- NeXTMail super welcomed!!| Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science <:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: dunn@bubba (Andy Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: backslash font Date: 21 Jul 1994 18:25:28 GMT Organization: Physics Dept., University of Michigan, Ann Arbor Distribution: world Message-ID: <30meio$a7g@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Hi, I am looking for a (preferably public domain) PS font for the NeXT that will allow me to put a back-slash over a character. Anyone know of such a font? Please e-mail, since I don't read this group regularly. Thanks, _andy dunn (dunn@mich.physics.lsa.umich.edu)
From: skeezics@teleport.com (Skeezics Boondoggle) Newsgroups: comp.publish.prepress,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP-aware service bureau - simple survey Date: 21 Jul 1994 11:54:06 -0700 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <30mg8e$mg1@elaine.teleport.com> Summary: Any interest? Any need? Write me! I live in Portland, OR and was, at one time, blessed with multiple places here in town that would take NeXTSTEP jobs. All of them are gone now, from what I can tell, but there's a great possibility that I can get one place back on-line. I went over there this week and met with the proprietor, and we blew the dust (literally) off the NeXT and fired it up. He's willing to not pitch it out the door if I can help him get it upgraded, work it back into his network, and show there's enough interest to keep it around using electricity and desk space. SO, here's a simple survey: Would you like to be able to run film or paper or CLC prints directly from your NeXTSTEP box at a shop here on the West Coast? [ ] yes! of course! [ ] well, maybe. [ ] no! leave me alone! go eat some granola and get out of my newsgroup! [ ] you're still using NeXTSTEP? Ha ha haha ha ha... Which is the most convenient method of transferring jobs? [ ] Internet - NeXTmail [ ] direct BBS-type download [ ] send in the media: [ ] 1.44 or 2.88 floppy [ ] Syquest ___meg cartridge [ ] 3.5" 128meg MO [ ] NeXT 256meg OD [ ] paper tape [ ] other __________________ [ ] carrier pigeon What NeXTSTEP programs should I be able to support directly? [ ] Framemaker [ ] Illustrator [ ] PasteUp [ ] Virtuoso [ ] Create [ ] other(s): ______________________ How much volume do you think you'd want to send in (i.e., if I do this will it be a full-time job?): [ ] film: ____ pages/feet per ____ (day/week/month) [ ] paper: ____ pages/feet per ____ (day/week/month) [ ] live poultry: ____ (legs/breasts/thighs) [ ] other: ____ What sort of turnaround/payment terms are most convenient? [ ] 24-48 hrs/UPS or FedEx return C.O.D. [ ] i dare you to do a credit check [ ] i'll happily pre-pay $____ thousand dollars and you can get those jobs back to me whenever convenient [ ] i live in the beautiful portland metro area, so i'll be happy to pay cash and deliver/pick up myself [ ] courier flight/brown bags of large, unmarked bills Anything else? What sort of job mix do you run? Scans? Color? Talk to me. Tell me your story: ________________________________________________________________ [Use the back if you need more space.] Fill this out and email it, postage paid, to 'skeezics@teleport.com' (no NeXTmail) or 'headbone!chris@sd.com' (NeXTmail okay). Okay, so I'm being just a little bit silly, but here's the scoop: I want to set this up so that I have a place to run jobs for my Mom's consulting business. We currently have to pull things into the Mac and run them from there (a huge pain, since we don't own a Mac) or just send the Postscript files and cross our fingers (we've been fairly lucky so far, but it's nervewracking on a tight schedule). I know about Light Printing, and I'll probably try them out at my next (pardon the pun) opportunity, but this place is THREE BLOCKS AWAY... it seems awfully silly to spend money on FedEx when I can walk over there anytime I want. So I'm not a professional designer and publisher type. But I have done some stuff for local clients as a favor to them, and it turned out well, and I'm interested in learning and doing more with DTP and digital prepress. If being located on the West Coast, or in Portland in particular is good for you, I'd be doing this on virtually a non-profit basis just so I can convince the service bureau to let *me* continue to bring my own jobs in. If you're even a wee bit interested, please let me know. I saw the recent postings about starting your own shop, and that was very useful. I'd be happy to hear any advice, war stories, etc. If interested, I'll summarize what equiment is available and some ballpark pricing. Thanks! -- skeezics@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81)
From: tboucher@teleport.com (Tyson B. Boucher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Icons for a severe case of NeXTEnvy? Date: 21 Jul 1994 21:07:33 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <tboucher-2107941407380001@ip-cd.teleport.com> Keywords: NeXT envy icons wanted capture graphics I am looking for as many assorted icons from a NeXT machine (technically, from NextStep, I guess) as I can. The 3d icons I have seen look so cool that I would like to be able to somehow capture some and add some to my non-NeXT computer. I have found some icons already, but they have been mangled down to 32x32 and don't look so good. If anybody is willing to help, could you capture some into a graphics file (I will convert them back to icons later) and send 'em to me? If they end up being greater than 8-bit, since I want to preserve all details, a lossless format like TIFF would be nice. An alternative way would be to archive them together into some sort of file and provide me with the format of the files and icons. I'm not familiar enough with the NeXT file handling system to know if it is easy or possible to do this. We can discuss this and transact via private mail (uuencode works well), or you can put it on an ftp site if you think others might be interested. Thanks to anyone who can help! -- | tboucher@teleport.com | | /-Student | | Tyson B. Boucher-|-Programmer | | \-lifeless.net.bum ;) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (Armin Retzko) Subject: how to build a MouseX color server for NextDimension? Message-ID: <armin.774793967@master> Keywords: MouseX, X11, X Server Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: RRZN Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 12:32:47 GMT Hi there, Does anybody know how to build or where to get a X Color Server for a NeXTdimension with a old german keyboard running MouseX & NS 3.0 ? Thanx . -------------------------------------------------------------- Armin Retzko Schumannstr.5 30823 Garbsen Germany e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de -------------------------------------------------------------- -- Armin Retzko e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PCI bus and NeXTSTEP, and 1280x1024 - compatible? Date: 22 Jul 1994 01:52:14 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <30n1ne$ipo@alf.uib.no> Still trying to get info on what configuration I should go with, PC or HP. I've been out and collected prices and some info on PC's. Seems the PCI bus is a good choice with a Pentium (586). I can't see in the Compatibility guide that NeXT supports PCI buss boards.... Does it? Will it? (i.e. 3.3) Also, I've been offered a Sony Trinitron OEM monitor cheap, and a Cirrus 5428 controller, but it seems NeXT doesn't support it in colour modes. I was offered an optional ATI 64bits "mach 64" graphics card, but don't see that one either on NeXTs lists.... The ATI is (of course) a PCI bus card. Please e-mail any info. HP Gecko looks better and better... Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Nethack and/or rogue binaries? Date: 21 Jul 1994 23:26:31 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <30n077$6i1@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <30lriu$ij7@news.acns.nwu.edu> sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/2.0-release/binaries/games.tar.Z -- Brent Swekla "Sleep furiously." swekla@ee.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: ftp.next.com Message-ID: <1994Jul21.212142.568@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <30ing0$b1k@rosie.next.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 21:21:42 GMT In article <30ing0$b1k@rosie.next.com> grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) writes: > In article <1994Jul19.185851.912@seer.demon.co.uk>, > Paul Lynch <paul@seer.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > >It seems rather irritating that NeXT should change their ftp system so > >that other sites can't mirror NeXTanswers. > > Of course we didn't do that. Something was broken, we fixed it. Thanks. Stay cool, though. I was feeling opressed by all the posts suggesting that I could only be getting this problem if I was using GatorFTP, which rather suggests not reading my original post :-). Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Subject: MECCA font from keynote Message-ID: <1994Jul22.051719.19418@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 05:17:19 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO Does anyone know the font that the word MECCA was in in Steve's keynote at the expo? Thanks in advance, -Mont
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Subject: NeXT building blockes Message-ID: <1994Jul22.063158.26754@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 06:31:58 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO If anyone has a eps of the NeXT biulding blocks (on the cover of the manuals among other places) I would greatly appreciate it if you could send it to me. (Perhaps some kind soul at NeXT Inc :) Thanks in advance, -Mont
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: X for INTEL... Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 10:18:10 GMT Message-ID: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> Ok, allright already. Everyone's hiding stuff from me... Where is a FULL X SERVER AND CLIENT distribution for NS/Intel for free. Mcgill and mouse x are only for black hardware. The fact of the matter is, I don't think anyone has made a distribution like this. Not everyone is out to make money. We need to put together a free X package for Intel. Not a crippled demo of some commercial software, but a fully functional, multi-fonted, olwm, twm, fvwm, honest to god X windows Client and Server package. What's the status on this? Mail or post. Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MECCA font from keynote Date: 22 Jul 1994 06:39:46 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <30npji$1hq@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <1994Jul22.051719.19418@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> In article <1994Jul22.051719.19418@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: > > Does anyone know the font that the word MECCA was in in Steve's > keynote at the expo? Looked like the same font used in the Jurassic Park logo to me. -- Paul M. Cardon Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young University
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cube Monitor VERY Dim, Suggestions? Date: 22 Jul 1994 12:41:18 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <30oepe$o53@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> My Cube has been extremely reliable up till now (had it since release 0.9!). Problem is that the monitor is getting very dim. A technician has upped the "sub-brightness" has high as it will go, but it's still too dim. 1) Could it be just the picture tube? If so, what is the replacement? 2) If something else, what? And, where to get replacement? Can I use a TurboNext Monitor on my Cube until I get this one repaired? - - - - - - - - - J. W. Wooten
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: WANTED: list/overview of apps planned for HP NeXTStep. Date: 22 Jul 1994 17:24:54 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no> Hi. Still looking at relative merits of Intel vs. PA-RISC :-) Does there exist a list or overview of NeXTSTEP apps which have been ported, or are planned ported (i.e. the author(s) have announced their intent to release a HP version) to HP? It seems to me that most everything has been ported to Intel, while I cannot find anywhere any public mention of support or intent to support the upcoming HP port of NeXTStep. I have received confirmation from several companies I've contacted directly, but cannot take time to contact all of them. Please e-mail replies, I'll summarize. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Date: 22 Jul 1994 17:26:20 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <30ooes$hdi@alf.uib.no> Hi. NeXTStep on NeXTs is a proprietary windowing system built upon a BSD 4.3 Unix with a Mach kernel, as I understand things. NeXTStep on Intel is a complete port of Mach, BSD, etc for 486/586 processor family and selected peripherals, correct? NeXTStep on AIX (no longer available) was the NeXT window system ported to run on IBM's version of UNIX, AIX - no Mach kernal, threading, etc. I would like to know what the HP PA-RISC port is made of - only the NeXT window system, or _everything_ from Mach up...? I'm just wondering if I should still consider getting a Gecko if NS is running over HP-UX instead of Mach... Please e-mail replies, I'll summarize. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: DTP and word proc. on Gecko? Date: 22 Jul 1994 17:28:09 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <30ooi9$hh2@alf.uib.no> Hi. If I decide to get a Gecko, what DTP and word processing apps exist? I'm in the middle of writing my dissertation in Frame, if I get a Gecko I need a stable and useable system from the minute I start up the machine until I'm finished with my article. I know Frame is releasing an Intel version, isn't a simple (!) recompile all that is required for a HP version? Alternately, what else exists? I haven't looked at Pages, I never learned (and don't have time now) TeX, nor does WriteNow look powerful enough (if it's even bundled...). Please e-mail replies, I'll summarize. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SUMMARY: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Date: 22 Jul 1994 17:54:17 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <30oq39$ig9@alf.uib.no> I love the Net - 10 minutes and my mailbox is flooded :-) Thanks to everybody who answered - the HP port is a _complete_ port of NS in its entirity, from Mach up. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jheiser@adobe.com (James Heiser) Subject: Re: MECCA font from keynote (RTF) Message-ID: <1994Jul22.155913.483@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <30npji$1hq@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:59:13 GMT In article <30npji$1hq@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) writes: > In article <1994Jul22.051719.19418@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> > mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: > > > > Does anyone know the font that the word MECCA was in in Steve's > > keynote at the expo? > > Looked like the same font used in the Jurassic Park logo to me. > > -- > Paul M. Cardon > > Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine > President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) > NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young > University There is a "freeware" version of this typeface called "Tribeca." It is Copyrighted 1991 by David Rakowski and available at many of the popular ftp sites for fonts. Included below is the font, ready to roll in NEXTSTEP. 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From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Downloading fonts automatically? Date: 21 Jul 1994 11:02:29 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <30lkk5$aem@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Hallo most of our students have difficulties to use the fontloader on our nextstep computers. (sometimes can't find the fonts or they just download a font several times etc...) is there a way to make this process easier? any help/ info would be great thanks Gabor -- Gabor Freivogel GhK FB Architektur Henschelstr. 2 3500 Kassel E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 12:19:27 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8i=z6D_00iV301yxlB@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 22-Jul-94 X for INTEL... by Operator@net23.com > Not everyone is out to make money. We need to put together a free X > package for Intel. Not a crippled demo of some commercial software, but a > fully functional, multi-fonted, olwm, twm, fvwm, honest to god X windows > Client and Server package. > > What's the status on this? Mail or post. If you are willing to spend your time and effort to produce a freely available version of X for NEXTSTEP/Intel, by all means, go for it! People will bless your name. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cfctech!network.cfc.com!t6882tm@msen.com> From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec)) Message-ID: <9407221502.AA08828@network.cfc.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:03:17 -0400 Subject: writing tools Background Info: There is a series of books waiting to be written. Each of the books in this series will be written by one, perhaps two, perhaps three people. All the writing will be done on NEXTSTEP--Intel and Motorola. Each book will be composed of text and graphics of some sort. The objective is to produce both hardcopy and electronic forms of each book. The electronic forms must have some sort of hypertext navigation. Questions: What are the best tools to use for writing this kind of book? PasteUp, LaTeX, Frame, Pages, etc.? And what are the advantages and unique features of each of these tools (please include your religious as well as your factual arguments)? What about revision control software for the projects? Please email me. I'll post a summary if there's interest. Timothy Mills t6882tm@network.cfc.com NeXTmail welcomed!
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Downloading fonts automatically? Date: 22 Jul 1994 16:58:33 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30otrp$bhr@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <30lkk5$aem@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Gabor Freivogel <gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de> writes: > most of our students have difficulties to use the fontloader on our > nextstep computers. ... is there a way to make this process easier? The solution we use is to include the field '_nxfinalform' in the printer's properties in NetInfoManager (no value). This has solved the problem nicely for us as we no longer worry about downloading fonts. I don't know the negative side effects of doing this but I'm sure others will comment. - Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles@raiders.sps.mot.com (Charles Chan) Subject: Setting Up anonymous FTP on NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Jul22.164658.1496@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com Organization: sps Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:46:58 GMT Hi, Could someone there give me some instructions on setting up *anonymous FTP* on NeXT (Motorola, 3.0)? Thanks in advances. Charles Chan --------------------------- charles@raiders.sps.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: How to: print NEXTSTEP generated .PS, .EPS, .TIFF files under WIN3.1 Message-ID: <CtCDCH.Fu6@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Sender: g402@jumbo.hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 12:29:05 GMT Organization: Hochschulrechenzentrum (HRZ) der Universitaet Giessen Keywords: printing, ps, postscript, tiff, windows Dear fellows, here is my problem: I have access to a HP 4M - Postscrip LaserPrinter. The printer is attached to a PC running Windows (for Workgroups) 3.11. I try to import the .ps, .eps and .tiff files I generated at home on my Intel-NS-station with Corel or Word, but I only get errors. Do I have to convert the files? Is there any little DOS/WIN-program to send a file directly to the printer? Cheers, Karsten D. Wolf karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de
From: sailer@a4430edc.esr.hp.com (Lee Sailer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 22 Jul 1994 18:17:24 GMT Organization: HP Educational Services Organization Message-ID: <30p2fk$eki@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <30ooes$hdi@alf.uib.no> > I would like to know what the HP PA-RISC port is made of - > only the NeXT window system, or _everything_ from Mach up...? Everything, from Mach up. -- lee
From: pln@egret0.Stanford.EDU (Patrick L. Nolan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Tape write error [white] Date: 22 Jul 1994 19:09:06 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <30p5gi$cn3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> We have a 486 computer with NS 3.2. It has an Archive Viper 525 MB tape drive. A while ago I was able to do a level 0 dump to the tape, and it can still read this tape. Now it won't write to the tape. The programs dump, tar, and dd all die with an I/O error as soon as they try to write. The drive doesn't make any of its characteristic noises when this happens. I have tried setting the "write protect" knob on the tape to both settings. The "mt status" command gives the following results, but I don't know how to interpret this: gamma> mt -f /dev/nrst0 status Generic SCSI tape drive, residual=0 Sense Key = 0x00 Sense Code = 0x00 Sense Byte 0x13 = 0x00 Sense Byte 0x14 = 0x1a Sense Byte 0x15 = 0x00 Sense Byte 0x16 = 0x00 Any ideas? -- * Patrick L. Nolan (415)723-0133 * * W. W. Hansen Experimental Physics Laboratory (HEPL) * * Stanford University * * Bitnet: PLN@SLACVM Internet: pln@egret0.stanford.edu *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Message-ID: <CtD5q8.MJ3@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <30ooes$hdi@alf.uib.no> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 22:42:06 GMT In article <30ooes$hdi@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: > Hi. > > NeXTStep on NeXTs is a proprietary windowing system built upon > a BSD 4.3 Unix with a Mach kernel, as I understand things. right > NeXTStep on Intel is a complete port of Mach, BSD, etc for > 486/586 processor family and selected peripherals, correct? yep > NeXTStep on AIX (no longer available) was the NeXT window > system ported to run on IBM's version of UNIX, AIX - no > Mach kernal, threading, etc. wrong. it was like the Intel port, if I remember correctly. (mach included). > I would like to know what the HP PA-RISC port is made of - > only the NeXT window system, or _everything_ from Mach up...? just like the Intel port (mach included) > I'm just wondering if I should still consider getting a > Gecko if NS is running over HP-UX instead of Mach... OpenStep would be the HP-UX port NeXTSTEP on Gecko is a Mach port. hope I'm right, hope this helps. -- personal opinions "Why do I feel like the only tree in a kennel?" - Murphy Brown
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Date: 23 Jul 1994 01:06:29 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <30pjdl$35h@alf.uib.no> References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> I thought NeXT for Intel had "dual boot" where one can have more than one OS on a boot disk, no? If it does, what do you need an X for NeXT for? Just run Linux. Its free. Its fast. Its stable. Its nice. (not as nice as NeXT ;-) Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setting Up anonymous FTP on NeXT? Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 17:53:07 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wiA3z3C00iUy09AJ0B@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Jul22.164658.1496@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 22-Jul-94 Setting Up anonymous FTP on.. by Charles Chan@raiders.sps > Hi, > > Could someone there give me some instructions on setting > up *anonymous FTP* on NeXT (Motorola, 3.0)? Try 'man ftpd' and follow the instructions. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: 22 Jul 1994 21:56:33 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <30pfah$22a@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <1994Jul22.063158.26754@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> In article <1994Jul22.063158.26754@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: |>If anyone has a eps of the NeXT biulding blocks (on the cover of the manuals |>among other places) I would greatly appreciate it if you could send it to |>me. (Perhaps some kind soul at NeXT Inc :) |> |>Thanks in advance, |>-Mont Please forward anything you get to me. Thanks in advance.. best Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief DANNUG NEWS % DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: sangjin@gamow.eecs.berkeley.edu (Sangjin Hong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FOR SALE: Daydream ROMbox Date: 22 Jul 1994 23:43:08 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: usa Message-ID: <30plic$ilv@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi all, I am selling Daydream ROM box (it makes your NeXT computer into a high performance Macintosh). It is brand new (still in the box). If any one interested in buying it, send me an email sangjin@gamow.eecs.berkeley.edu I am asking $550.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) Subject: NeXTStep and Novell 3.12 Message-ID: <CtCLxL.A5@wag.ch> Keywords: Novell Sender: usenet@wag.ch Organization: workstation ag, Rohrstr. 36/38, CH-8152 Glattbrugg, Switzerland Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:34:32 GMT We have installed serveral NeXTStep workstations with connection to Novell Servers running Novell version 3.11. No problems! However I have difficulties to set up NeXTStep with a Novell 3.12. Questions: - Has anybody experience with NeXTStep and Novell 3.12? - Is NeXTStep compatable with Novell 3.12 (on line documentation does not give a clear hint). Thanks for your help -Hans- Hans Burkard workstation ag e-mail: hbu@wag.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.admin From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: Wanted: Steve Job's Voice!!! Message-ID: <1994Jul22.235342.4791@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <30ks97$1al@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 23:53:42 GMT Sean O. Luke writes > Bruce Fancher (bruce@phantom.com) wrote: > : Can someone PUH-LEASE send me the email that comes with NeXTstep 2.X with > : Job's "I want to Welcome you to the NeXT world . . ." lip service in it? > : I lost mine when we upgraded to 3.2. Go to a NeXTSTEP 3.0 CD-ROM and open /usr/template/user/Mailboxes/Active.mbox -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Date: 23 Jul 1994 04:34:20 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <30q6kc$qs4@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <CtD5q8.MJ3@txnews.amd.com> In article <CtD5q8.MJ3@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > In article <30ooes$hdi@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: > > Hi. > > NeXTStep on AIX (no longer available) was the NeXT window > > system ported to run on IBM's version of UNIX, AIX - no > > Mach kernal, threading, etc. > > wrong. it was like the Intel port, if I remember correctly. > (mach included). Wrong! The NEXTSTEP/AIX port was on top of AIX, which is one technical reason it failed (political and marketing failures not withstanding). It was too slow, and took too long to get 1.0 working (just as 2.0 was relased). Trivia: anyone remember how much the NEXTSTEP/AIX manual set for PS systems sold for at NeXTWorld Expo '93? ;-) -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: smuir@ix.netcom.com (Steve Muir) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep and Novell 3.12 Date: 23 Jul 1994 05:55:34 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <30qbcm$qad@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> In <CtCLxL.A5@wag.ch> hbu@wag.ch (Hans Burkard) writes: > > >We have installed serveral NeXTStep workstations with connection to Novell >Servers running Novell version 3.11. No problems! > >However I have difficulties to set up NeXTStep with a Novell 3.12. > >Questions: >- Has anybody experience with NeXTStep and Novell 3.12? >- Is NeXTStep compatable with Novell 3.12 (on line documentation > does not give a clear hint). > >Thanks for your help > >-Hans- > >Hans Burkard >workstation ag >e-mail: hbu@wag.ch > Without any details as to what is going on (or not) the obvious place to start is: you *are* aware that the frames are different in NW3.11 and 3.12, right? 3.11 used 802.3 and 3.12 has changed to 802.2. Hope this helps, Steve
From: eps@springfield.sfsu.edu (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: 23 Jul 1994 06:48:19 GMT Organization: California State University Sacramento Message-ID: <30qefj$ae9@news.csus.edu> References: <1994Jul22.063158.26754@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> In article <1994Jul22.063158.26754@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: > If anyone has a eps of the NeXT biulding blocks (on the cover of the manuals > among other places) I would greatly appreciate it if you could send it to > me. 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From: eps@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <30qei2$aea@news.csus.edu> Control: cancel <30qei2$aea@news.csus.edu> Date: 23 Jul 1994 06:52:55 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30qeo7$5v1@nic-nac.CSU.net>
From: eps@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <30qei2$aea@news.csus.edu> Control: cancel <30qei2$aea@news.csus.edu> Date: 23 Jul 1994 06:57:29 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30qf0p$5vt@nic-nac.CSU.net> C News sucks!!!
From: eps@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <30qel1$anr@news.csus.edu> Control: cancel <30qel1$anr@news.csus.edu> Date: 23 Jul 1994 06:58:42 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30qf32$60l@nic-nac.CSU.net> Grr...
From: eps@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <30qel1$anr@news.csus.edu> Control: cancel <30qel1$anr@news.csus.edu> Date: 23 Jul 1994 07:04:41 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30qfe9$avv@news.csus.edu> Free software is worth what you pay for it.
From: eps@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <30qei2$aea@news.csus.edu> Control: cancel <30qei2$aea@news.csus.edu> Date: 23 Jul 1994 07:12:48 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30qftg$6s4@nic-nac.CSU.net>
From: eps@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <30qel1$anr@news.csus.edu> Control: cancel <30qel1$anr@news.csus.edu> Date: 23 Jul 1994 07:13:39 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <30qfv3$6s7@nic-nac.CSU.net>
From: eps@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <30qei2$aea@news.csus.edu> Control: cancel <30qei2$aea@news.csus.edu> Date: 23 Jul 1994 07:06:17 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30qfha$b4s@news.csus.edu> bzzzt
From: eps@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <30qel1$anr@news.csus.edu> Control: cancel <30qel1$anr@news.csus.edu> Date: 23 Jul 1994 07:07:39 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <30qfjr$b60@news.csus.edu> Bad computer. No floppy.
From: bisselt@marley.gb.swissbank.com (Timothy Bissell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Thanks to all posters from NeXT.com Date: 22 Jul 1994 11:50:59 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation Message-ID: <BISSELT.94Jul22125059@marley.gb.swissbank.com> I have seen a much greater volume of postings from NeXT employees over the past couple of months; hints and tips for using NeXTStep, useful replies to questions and such, and I am very heartened by it all. I just want to give a public thankyou to all you guys, and hope you keep it up! Tim -- tim -- Work: bisselt@gb.swissbank.com | +44 71 711 2984 | Ducati 750SS Home: tim@ursidae.demon.co.uk | +44 480 451 022 | DoD#174
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: Re: Thanks to all posters from NeXT.com Message-ID: <CtE0GL.5zo@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T References: <BISSELT.94Jul22125059@marley.gb.swissbank.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 09:45:57 GMT In article <BISSELT.94Jul22125059@marley.gb.swissbank.com>, Timothy Bissell <bisselt@marley.gb.swissbank.com> wrote: -> ->I have seen a much greater volume of postings from NeXT employees ->over the past couple of ->months; hints and tips for using NeXTStep, useful replies to ->questions and such, and I ->am very heartened by it all. I just want to give a public ->thankyou to all you guys, and ->hope you keep it up! i most definitely have to agree. i've only recently started on the path to becoming the NeXT guru in my department, and the response and support from NeXT employees has been incredible. great work, folks! -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert) Subject: Re: TopolgyLab still available? Message-ID: <1994Jul23.115939.782@charon.muc.de> Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de Organization: Peter Eybert References: <30jc8k$8vu@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Distribution: global Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:59:39 GMT Frank Seaton Taylor writes In article <30hhso$dtb@crcnis1.unl.edu> sdunbar@mathlab21.unl.edu (Steven Dunbar) writes: > A couple of years ago in the NS 2.x releases there was a demo app called > TopologyLab which would draw pictures of things like Moebius bands, Klein > bottles, tori, etc. > Is it still available anywhere? > Does it still work under Nextstep 3.2 (on black hardware)? You can ftp it from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de /pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/ TopologyLab.app.2.1.N.b.tar.gz It works. -- ____________________________________________________________ Peter Eybert pjoe@charon.muc.de Appenzellerstr. 123 Tel: +49-89-7593734 81475 Muenchen (NeXTMail welcome) --
From: sb@desiree.teleport.com (Jim Sims) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: help - /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY...? Date: 23 Jul 1994 16:21:01 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <30rg1d$c0u@desiree.teleport.com> I am trying to fix this myself. However, it is like home brain surgery. I understand that I need to run fsck manually to fix this. What is /dev/rsd0a?
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:49:57 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0iAHkZy00iUy81CFUK@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <30qefj$ae9@news.csus.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 23-Jul-94 Re: NeXT building blockes by Eric P. Scott: > Never seen one. :-) A 34 K message for this one-line addition? Sigh. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help - /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY...? Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 14:42:16 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ciAKG8O00iUyQ1v4oL@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <30rg1d$c0u@desiree.teleport.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 23-Jul-94 help - /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECT.. by Jim Sims@desiree.telepor > I am trying to fix this myself. However, it is like home brain surgery. > > I understand that I need to run fsck manually to fix this. Yes. The best thing to try would be to reboot in single-user mode (do a 'bsd -s' from the NeXT ROM monitor prompt). Then do '/usr/etc/fsck /dev/rsd0a', and answer the questions manually (generally with a 'y'). You can use the '-y' option to automatically answer yes, but that can be risky. Take a look at 'man fsck' for more info. > What is /dev/rsd0a? That is the "raw (character) device file" for your boot drive, which programs like fsck and disk can access your hard drive directly. Again, take a look at 'man sd' for more info. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ethernet Woes Date: 23 Jul 1994 19:39:27 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <30rrlf$rih@news1.digex.net> Hey guys, after all that struggle to get PNI to work a month ago (which I received massive help to solve), I figured getting local networking would be a snap. Howevere, it hasn't been so. We have three machines which run Windows for Workgroups. We also have a few TCP/IP stacks which work great. We even have Linux which can ping out to Winblows with no trouble. So I get this Etherlink II driver which installed great, finds the Ethernet address find, and then... can't ping my roommates, they can't ping me. Nothing. You got nothing. A lotta talk an a badge. Is there anything special to do to let non-NeXT ethernet machines talk to NeXT? I even used HostManager to create a host called "bonehead" with my Ethernet address and our local Internet address (194.0.0.10 for me), but it can't ping anything but itself. Here's the router info: ----- clubside> netstat -r Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface localhost localhost UH 4 248 lo0 pm1.digex.net clubside UH 0 0 pni0 clubside localhost UH 0 0 lo0 default pm1.digex.net UG 1 8 pni0 194 bonehead U 5 674 en0 ----- The HostManager local info is set so 194.0.0.10, with No Routing, Default Mask, etc., etc... Any clues? Trying to get this MOO developed is tough with only one person logged on at a time! Ack! Thanks in advance! Chris ------------- Home of 'Clubside', the only weekly obscenity-filled rag on the face of the Earth. Free most everywhere (and FTPable soon!). Write us at 'editor@clubside.digex.net' for more info. We love NeXT-Mail, oh-e-oh. ------------- "Mrs. Crane, I'm looking at you... you wore green so you could hide." -- Carl, 'Caddyshack'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Message-ID: <1994Jul23.091738.5565@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <CtD5q8.MJ3@txnews.amd.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 09:17:38 GMT In article <CtD5q8.MJ3@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > In article <30ooes$hdi@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: > > NeXTStep on AIX (no longer available) was the NeXT window > > system ported to run on IBM's version of UNIX, AIX - no > > Mach kernal, threading, etc. > > wrong. it was like the Intel port, if I remember correctly. > (mach included). It was never released, but I think Thor has it right. The AIX port was NeXTSTEP on top of AIX, and a good demonstration of why lightweight threads are useful. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> <30pjdl$35h@alf.uib.no> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 22:40:00 GMT Message-ID: <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : I thought NeXT for Intel had "dual boot" where one can have : more than one OS on a boot disk, no? : If it does, what do you need an X for NeXT for? : Just run Linux. Its free. Its fast. Its stable. Its nice. : (not as nice as NeXT ;-) Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has to be up 24/7 Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: dguthrie@fsight2.com (Don Guthrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Can't boot NeXT machine anymore. HELP!!! Date: 24 Jul 1994 01:19:15 GMT Organization: Future Sight/2 Message-ID: <30sfij$a7c@ns.RezoNet.NET> While in the processing of setting up my NeXT to connect via my IP Router to the Internet, I inadvertently put in a domain name for the machine. Now whenever the system boots, the following happens. Starting RPC and network services: nmserver portmapadd net default: gateway 199.84.152.1 then the following repeats forever, thus never allowing the machine to finish its boot sequence. yp: server not responding for dmain "fsight2.com"; still trying. Is there any way to reset this setting from the boot up process and if so, what do I need to do? Thanks Don dguthrie@fsight2.com
From: sb@desiree.teleport.com (Jim Sims) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: help - /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY***FIXED,THANKS Date: 24 Jul 1994 02:53:19 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <30sl30$d0m@desiree.teleport.com> When I was in high school the computer class students carried around boxes of punch cards. I did not understand computers then and do not now but with you people from comp.sys.next.etc I manage to work with one. Thanks to all the people who gave advice this time and previous times. Jim
From: andrewa@axysdev.nwest.mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Date: 24 Jul 1994 02:25:25 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <30sjel$dq2@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <CtD5q8.MJ3@txnews.amd.com> In article <CtD5q8.MJ3@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > > NeXTStep on AIX (no longer available) was the NeXT window > > system ported to run on IBM's version of UNIX, AIX - no > > Mach kernal, threading, etc. > > wrong. it was like the Intel port, if I remember correctly. > (mach included). Nope, sorry. It was a port on top of AIX. (In a way, IBM had OpenStep years ago, and they threw it away. The world might be somewhat different at this point had IBM continued with it...) -- andrew.abernathy@axysdev.nwest.mccaw.com (NeXTmail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: 24 Jul 1994 04:21:33 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <30sq8d$6da@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <0iAHkZy00iUy81CFUK@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 23-Jul-94 Re: NeXT building >blockes by Eric P. Scott: >> Never seen one. :-) >A 34 K message for this one-line addition? >Sigh. I didn't see enough smiley faces there... Since when has EPS been anything but helpful? (Oh, wait, there was that *one* time he was sarcastic about something NeXT did :-) Heh heh heh. (I would guess that if you fired up NewsGrazer, you might see some sort of .EPS file tucked in there) -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can't boot NeXT machine anymore. HELP!!! Date: 24 Jul 1994 04:24:48 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <30sqeg$6qj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <30sfij$a7c@ns.RezoNet.NET> dguthrie@fsight2.com (Don Guthrie) writes: >While in the processing of setting up my NeXT to connect via my IP Router >to the Internet, I inadvertently put in a domain name for the machine. >Now whenever the system boots, the following happens. >Starting RPC and network services: nmserver portmapadd net default: gateway >199.84.152.1 >then the following repeats forever, thus never allowing the machine to finish >its boot sequence. >yp: server not responding for dmain "fsight2.com"; still trying. >Is there any way to reset this setting from the boot up process and if so, >what do I need to do? This happened to someone just last week on comp.sys.next.sysadmin I believe. Mark Majka, I think, wrote a detailed description of how to edit your /etc/hostconfig. Essentially, remove the: YPDOMAIN=fsight2.com and change it to: YPDOMAIN=-NO- You want to put fsight2.com in /etc/resolv.conf as: domain fsight2.com nameserver <ip addr of your name server> -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: PCI SCSI? Message-ID: <Ct9sC0.Cxz@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <30eehb$t2a@fnnews.fnal.gov> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 02:59:59 GMT Joseph Beda (beda@fnal.gov) wrote: : I'm putting together a new P5-90 system with PCI. I'm wondering if : anyone knows of any drivers for PCI SCSI cards. What about the new : Adaptec PCI SCSI? Will and when will these be supported? Talus makes a PCI SCSI driver for one of the NCR chipsets. info@talus.com --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can't boot NeXT machine anymore. HELP!!! Date: 24 Jul 1994 04:26:56 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <30sqig$6u5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <30sfij$a7c@ns.RezoNet.NET> dguthrie@fsight2.com (Don Guthrie) writes: >While in the processing of setting up my NeXT to connect via my IP Router >to the Internet, I inadvertently put in a domain name for the machine. >Now whenever the system boots, the following happens. In my previous followup, I inadvertently forgot the first step: boot into single user mode by: During "testing system" do cmd-cmd-~, then type "bsd -s" at the NeXT> prompt. -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: Can't boot NeXT anymore. Help! Message-ID: <CtGA7o.7J@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 15:11:47 GMT In article <30sfl3$a7c@ns.RezoNet.NET> dguthrie@fsight2.com (Don Guthrie) writes: > While in the processing of setting up my NeXT to connect via my IP > Router to the Internet, I inadvertently put in a domain name for the > machine. Now whenever the system boots, the following happens. > > Starting RPC and network services: nmserver portmapadd net default: > gateway 199.84.152.1 > > then the following repeats forever, thus never allowing the machine to > finish its boot sequence. > > yp: server not responding for dmain "fsight2.com"; still trying. > > Is there any way to reset this setting from the boot up process and if > so, what do I need to do? I once had a similar problem with my machine. I had to reboot it in single-user mode and repair the damaged configuration by hand. I don't know where exactly your problem is, but you should start by undoing any recent changes to the files ``/etc/rc.*'' and ``/etc/hostconfig''. If you have changed the netinfo database in ``/etc/netinfo/local/nidb'' you will need to install a recent backup of the whole directory. Here is how to boot in single-user mode (see Chapter 9: ``System Startup and Shutdown'' of ``Network and System Administration''): ``When the system is first turned on, hold down the Command bar and press the ~ key [top left on the numeric keypad] (without pressing Shift) immediately after the "Testing System" message is replaced by the "Loading from disk" message. (On keyboards with two Command keys, hold down the right Command key and press the ~ key.) The ROM monitor window is displayed containing the prompt "NeXT>".'' Then you enter the command NeXT> bsd -s and let the system come up in single user mode. [You may need the hardware password for this procedure if one is installed on your machine.] This will log you in as root and give you an interactive shell. If you need to restore backups from a floppy or originals from a CD you will have to mount these devices manually, e.g. # mount /dev/sd1a /CDROM # mount /dev/fd0a /FLOPPY One last advice: Be **very** careful and make copies of all files you're going to modify or replace. A good idea is to copy (not link) every file `xyz' to `xyz_'. > > Thanks > You're welcome -- Good Luck -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 13:49:35 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0iAeaji00WBNI1FL8A@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <30sq8d$6da@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 24-Jul-94 Re: NeXT building blockes by David Lemson@ux1.cso.uiu > Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > >> A 34 K message for this one-line addition? >> >> Sigh. > > I didn't see enough smiley faces there... HHOS. My net connectivity is via a ZyXEL 14.4 modem, and I pay for it. However, this wasn't a flame, just an observation that the signal-to-noise ratio was approaching zero (20 characters / 33970 characters = -32.3 dB :-) > (I would guess that if you fired up NewsGrazer, you might see some > sort of .EPS file tucked in there) True, but I'm afraid that doesn't do much for those who can not and/or will not use NewsGrazer. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Thanks to all posters from NeXT.com Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 24 Jul 1994 18:49:41 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <30ud45$2un@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <BISSELT.94Jul22125059@marley.gb.swissbank.com> <CtE0GL.5zo@nntpa.cb.att.com> Ditto. This must be a sea change in the way NeXT deals with people on the net. Or maybe it's a sea change in the way people on the net deal with NeXT; I haven't seen many of the "Steve Jobs has been smoking dope"-type posts these days. ...................................kris -B.LING (btl@hogpf.ho.att.com) wrote: : In article <BISSELT.94Jul22125059@marley.gb.swissbank.com>, : Timothy Bissell <bisselt@marley.gb.swissbank.com> wrote: : -> : ->I have seen a much greater volume of postings from NeXT employees : ->over the past couple of : ->months; hints and tips for using NeXTStep, useful replies to : ->questions and such, and I : ->am very heartened by it all. I just want to give a public : ->thankyou to all you guys, and : ->hope you keep it up! : i most definitely have to agree. i've only recently started on the path : to becoming the NeXT guru in my department, and the response and support from : NeXT employees has been incredible. great work, folks! : -- : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% : %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% : %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: adewolf@renoir.cftnet.com (Alex Dewolf) Subject: Next Cube serial ports blown Message-ID: <CtGMzz.GM8@cftnet.com> Sender: usenet@cftnet.com Organization: CFTnet Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 19:47:59 GMT Hello Nexters; I have a 68040 cube and there was a lightning storm which blew both serial ports on my system. Any suggestions as what to do ? Do I try to find a replacement mother-board or should I try to get replacement chips ? Thanks in advance Alex DeWolf adewolf@cftnet.com PS Please e-mail answers.
From: chi@kaiwan.com (LCC) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep and Novell 3.12 Date: 24 Jul 1994 13:50:53 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/452-9166) Message-ID: <30uk7d$o4l@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <CtCLxL.A5@wag.ch> I've tried NeXTStep with Novell 3.12 and it doesn't work for me. If anyone know how to setup the Novell Server for use with NS/FIP system please post your answer!
From: bosborne@nature.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Osborne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where is NeXTTime.app? Date: 24 Jul 94 23:30:21 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <bosborne.775092621@nature.Berkeley.EDU> Summary: Where is NeXTTime.app? Keywords: Nexttime app To the Group, I have probably missed some key information as I did not attend the NEXTSTEP expo, but : How can I get a hold of the app that plays Nexttime movies? Thank you for your attention to this matter, Brian O. bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: How to: print NEXTSTEP generated .PS, .EPS, .TIFF files under WIN3.1 Message-ID: <CtH8vG.GJp@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <CtCDCH.Fu6@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 03:40:27 GMT Karsten Wolf (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de) wrote: : I have access to a HP 4M - Postscrip LaserPrinter. The printer is : attached to a PC running Windows (for Workgroups) 3.11. I try to import : the .ps, .eps and .tiff files I generated at home on my Intel-NS-station : with Corel or Word, but I only get errors. : Do I have to convert the files? Is there any little DOS/WIN-program to : send a file directly to the printer? You might try GhostScript/GhostView for Windows. I picked it up from Simtel20 archives via FTP from oak.oakland.edu GhostScript is the PostScript engine. GhostView is the front-end, and allows previewing and printing of PostScript (.ps) files. I have never tried printing NeXT-generated PS files. As long as you print-to-file using Device-Independant PS, with fonts included (from the Print Panel), I think it should work. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Date: 25 Jul 1994 05:19:33 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <30vi15$6mk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <CtD5q8.MJ3@txnews.amd.com> <30q6kc$qs4@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote: : Trivia: anyone remember how much the NEXTSTEP/AIX : manual set for PS systems sold for at NeXTWorld Expo '93? : ;-) Well? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin + + kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: 25 Jul 1994 07:16:10 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <30vorq$lhg@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <0iAeaji00WBNI1FL8A@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes ) HHOS. My net connectivity is via a ZyXEL 14.4 modem, and I pay for it. ) However, this wasn't a flame, just an observation that the ) signal-to-noise ratio was approaching zero (20 characters / 33970 ) characters = -32.3 dB :-) Only for you, because as noted: ) > (I would guess that if you fired up NewsGrazer, you might see some ) > sort of .EPS file tucked in there) There definitely was an image in there...in fact, the exact image requested, oddly enough. ) True, but I'm afraid that doesn't do much for those who can not and/or ) will not use NewsGrazer. Scott Anguish wrote a program called NGService a while ago. You can get it on sonata or orst. It's easy to use: (1) Save the NewsGrazer article to a file (2) Load the file in Edit.app (3) Select all (Command-a) (4) Invoke NGService from the menu Services>NGService>Read And poof you get a window with the text of the NewsGrazer message in it. Really quite simple. And the app is tiny--much smaller than NewsGrazer. So even if you hate NewsGrazer you can keep this around to make it easy to look at any rich posts that are sent out. And if that's too easy, add the uuencode begin/end lines to the glob of "garbage" text at the end and decode it yourself. All rtf attachments are within the file, uuencoded again, so it gets really tedious to edit each one out and add the begin/end pairs. So I don't usually do it by hand--though I did it a lot before NGService came around and it is not at all difficult, just tedious. (Thus I highly recommend NGService.) I used NGService until I got a full net connection. Now I just use NewsGrazer itself... But if you have a NEXTSTEP machine it is so easy to decode these things that it seems silly to complain. Especially when you _can_ do it on any UNIX machine with already installed tools if you take the time... and if EPS posts rich, you can count on there being a good reason for it. -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: dguthrie@fsight2.com (Don Guthrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Setting 'Default Tool' for Images? Date: 25 Jul 1994 12:59:36 GMT Organization: Future Sight/2 Message-ID: <310cvo$90d@ns.RezoNet.NET> How do you go about associating certain files types with programs? I need to set OmniImage as the default tool for all graphic images. However Image Viewer seems to be the default tool at this moment. I can change it on a file-by-file basis however I need to set it globally to OmniImage for all image files. Don dguthrie@fsight2.com dong@eicon.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Message-ID: <1994Jul25.075007.965@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <0iAeaji00WBNI1FL8A@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 07:50:07 GMT Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 24-Jul-94 Re: NeXT building blockes by David Lemson@ux1.cso.uiu >~> > (I would guess that if you fired up NewsGrazer, you might see some ~> > sort of .EPS file tucked in there) In article <0iAeaji00WBNI1FL8A@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> responds: ~> True, but I'm afraid that doesn't do much for those who can not and/or ~> will not use NewsGrazer. Chuck, It was actually an uncompressed .tiff Running it through tiffutil -lzw reduces it to 17184 bytes, and adding alpha and eliminating the white background to transparent, for some reason, and compressing that output results in an 8306 byte image. Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: NS/I: Serial port questions Message-ID: <1994Jul25.075510.1023@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <30mbu7$qse@news.iastate.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 07:55:10 GMT In article <30mbu7$qse@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: ~> ~> If you have the developer installed, get cd MuxDriverSRC1.4.tar.gz ~> from cs.orst.edu. Don't know if MAB version is on the site. I don't know if the HP needs it, but NeXT never released driver support for Serial for white, nor for ANY of the newer style OO drivers for black hardware. MAB is kind of a moot question. Of course there's still MiG and raw messaging, and the kl_ utilities. Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author bruce@TotSysSoft.com NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <valmar!sas@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: <m0qSPVA-0001xwC@valmar> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 07:51 CDT From: sas@valmar.netcom.com (Al) Subject: sendmail I'd like for my mailer to send mail immediately when I hit the Deliver button using UUCP. I have made the changes required to the sendmail.cf files (all of them) and have linked the sendmail.cf file to all 3 options with negative results. This used to work about a year ago, and then I disabled it. A few months ago a friend installed smail for me, but didn't really explain what changes to expect, except that my "reply-to" address in NeXT Mail would be used. (It wasn't sent with sendmail.) Can anyone get me going again? I suppose it's not really urgent, but I'm puzzled. Thanks for your help. --- Shalom! ______________________________ Shawn Stone, Fort Worth, TX email: sas@halite.uta.edu (NeXT mail welcome.) ______________________________
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:52:45 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <UiAx6xi00WBOA21wRt@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <30vorq$lhg@bones.et.byu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 25-Jul-94 Re: NeXT building blockes by Don Yacktman@darth.byu.e > ) True, but I'm afraid that doesn't do much for those who can not and/or > ) will not use NewsGrazer. > [ examples of how to manually decode NewsGrazer postings deleted ] That wasn't my point. I know how to view NewsGrazer postings if I want to make the effort. However, to most people [ approximately 100 % of the non-NeXT community and some smaller percentage of the NeXT community ], NewsGrazer represents a large waste of bandwidth. I don't think that sending enclosures over a world-wide newsgroup is appropriate; that's what private email is for. I'll be fair to NewsGrazer and say that I also object to MIME postings with enclosures to newsgroups. Note that this was not a flame. (Ask anyone I have flamed seriously, I think they'll agree.... :-) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: yanko@inf.utfsm.cl (Sebastian Herrera O.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 25 Jul 1994 14:30:01 GMT Organization: Informatika, UTFSM. Message-ID: <310i99$eev@manutara.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> Operator (root@net23.com) wrote: : Where is a FULL X SERVER AND CLIENT distribution for NS/Intel for free. : Mcgill and mouse x are only for black hardware. : Not everyone is out to make money. We need to put together a free X : package for Intel. Not a crippled demo of some commercial software, but a : fully functional, multi-fonted, olwm, twm, fvwm, honest to god X windows : Client and Server package. : What's the status on this? Mail or post. : Nick --------------- And I sum up on this one ! A true X client is almost anything that's missing to take over the world, in my humble opinion. Well not exactly the world, but it's pretty nice to go saying in these days that NeXTStep is for intels', sparcs, hp's, and even alpha's, and this really takes over some minds, who are doubting about taking the decision, say don't dive in yet, but are willing to wet their toes... But then, disgracefully, comes a point were these people inevitably talk about their current and existing applications, and what are they going to do with these. And you have to admit there's NO REAL X server/clients, but commercial emulation packages, and if you are sincere enough, you have to point that they really don't do the job.. Well that's all, need X to finish taking over the world. PD: I know i'm not that smart, correct my views if possible. yanko (undergrad EE)
From: yanko@inf.utfsm.cl (Sebastian Herrera O.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:09:05 GMT Organization: Informatika, UTFSM. Distribution: world Message-ID: <310kih$eev@manutara.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <2unn8i$96q@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2us9ff$t8@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM> Conrad Geiger Sunsoft (cgeiger@davis.Central.Sun.COM) wrote: : Yes, David. Solaris (and hence OpenStep) will run on the PowerPC. The port : is underway; in fact, Solaris on the PowerPC is being shown in the Sun booth : at PC Expo in New York City this week. : Conrad Geiger : SunSoft Does this apply to PowerMacs ?? Or are we talking about IBM's ppc workstations or even some to-be-made machines using ppc's ?? I understand the chip is the same but the arquitecture is not, so = trouble. yanko
From: cdodson@vortex (R. Craig Dodson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:40:21 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <310md5$ol2@transfer.stratus.com> References: <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> In article <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: > Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: > > Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has > to be up 24/7 > > Nick > Then why not shell out the minimal $$$ for a real Commercial-quality X emulator like Co-Xist from Pencom ? We did and it works very well. Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) cdodson@zen.cac.stratus.com
From: ldebraux@hds.univ-compiegne.fr (Laurent Debraux) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Nexstep ON PPC Date: 25 Jul 1994 16:43:44 GMT Organization: U.T.C. Laboratoire HEUDIASYC Distribution: world Message-ID: <310q40$34o@sunsic.si.univ-compiegne.fr> Will Nextstep will be available on apple PPC ? If Yes ? soon ? and IBM PPC ? answer me directly by email Thanks ------------------------------------------------ Laurent Debraux Universite de Technologie de Compiegne Division Mathematiques Appliquees Departement Genie Informatique BP 649 60206 COMPIEGNE CEDEX FRANCE Phone Number (33) 44 23 4688 Fax Number (33) 44 23 44 77 E-mail ldebraux@dma.univ-compiegne.fr ------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Message-ID: <1994Jul25.171952.28463@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. References: <UiAx6xi00WBOA21wRt@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 17:19:52 GMT In article <UiAx6xi00WBOA21wRt@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 25-Jul-94 Re: NeXT building > blockes by Don Yacktman@darth.byu.e > > ) True, but I'm afraid that doesn't do much for those who can not and/or > > ) will not use NewsGrazer. > > > > [ examples of how to manually decode NewsGrazer postings deleted ] > > That wasn't my point. I know how to view NewsGrazer postings if I want > to make the effort. However, to most people [ approximately 100 % of > the non-NeXT community and some smaller percentage of the NeXT community > ], NewsGrazer represents a large waste of bandwidth. I don't think that > sending enclosures over a world-wide newsgroup is appropriate; that's > what private email is for. I'll be fair to NewsGrazer and say that I > also object to MIME postings with enclosures to newsgroups. We should probably get a next group added to the binaries news group trees. Then folks could post things like the blocks tiff image or other binaries in a "correct" forum. -- FreemanSoft Inc. Home of FSPreferences and FSGreyBoard. Providers of NEXTSTEP mentoring and consulting services. Working with NEXTSTEP since March 1989 and NeXT PDO since July 1993.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: How to: print NEXTSTEP generated .PS, .EPS, .TIFF files under WIN3.1 Message-ID: <CtHsxq.Ht@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <CtH8vG.GJp@cunews.carleton.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:53:50 GMT In article <CtH8vG.GJp@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: > Karsten Wolf (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de) wrote: > : I have access to a HP 4M - Postscrip LaserPrinter. The printer is > : attached to a PC running Windows (for Workgroups) 3.11. I try to import > : the .ps, .eps and .tiff files I generated at home on my Intel-NS-station > : with Corel or Word, but I only get errors. > > : Do I have to convert the files? Is there any little DOS/WIN-program to > : send a file directly to the printer? > > You might try GhostScript/GhostView for Windows. I picked it up from > Simtel20 archives via FTP from oak.oakland.edu > > GhostScript is the PostScript engine. GhostView is the front-end, and > allows previewing and printing of PostScript (.ps) files. Why should need Ghostscript? He's got a HP 4M Postscript Printer, so it should be enough to type 'copy foo.ps prn' in a DOS Shell. Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Message-ID: <1994Jul25.163628.10311@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <30pfah$22a@machthenext.dannug.dk> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 16:36:28 GMT Michael Hallin writes > In article <1994Jul22.063158.26754@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> > mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes: > |>If anyone has a eps of the NeXT biulding blocks (on the cover of the manuals > |>among other places) I would greatly appreciate it if you could send it to > |>me. (Perhaps some kind soul at NeXT Inc :) > |> > |>Thanks in advance, > |>-Mont > > Please forward anything you get to me. > > Thanks in advance.. > > best > There's a tiff in /usr/template/user/Mailboxes/Active.mbox. -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: Suvro Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Setting reply prompts in Mail 3.0 Date: 25 Jul 1994 21:06:16 GMT Organization: New Mexico State University Message-ID: <3119g8$28d@dns1.NMSU.Edu> Can anyone tell me how to set the reply prompt in NeXTstep Mail Release 3.0? There doesn't seem to be any such facility in the preferences module. -- Suv NeXT mail address: subasu@nmsu.edu
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Searching for the correct operator Date: 25 Jul 1994 21:12:21 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <3119rl$fhu@transfer.stratus.com> I'm playing with WetPaint and I'm searching for the correct way to accomplish the following: I have a scanned in image, and a target image. I want to make the scanned image partly transparent, and place it on top of the target image. I have yet to get this right, though datop was close. Or is there a filter than can accomplish this for me? -- OMNIVERSAL AWARENESS?? Oh, YEH!! First you need 4 GALLONS of JELL-O and a BIG WRENCH!!... I think you drop th'WRENCH in the JELL-O as if it was a FLAVOR, or an INGREDIENT... ...or...I...um... WHERE'S the WASHING MACHINES? Howard Ship hship@zen.cac.stratus.com [NeXT Mail OK] `84 GPz 750 "I lurk not, neither do I flame." -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C%<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M]"EQM M87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@Q,34R7'1X,C,P-%QT>#,T-39< M='@T-C`X7'1X-3<V,%QT>#8Y,3)<='@X,#8T7'1X.3(Q-EQT>#$P,S8X7'1X M,3$U,C!<9C%<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,CA<9F,P7&-F,"!))VT@<&QA>6EN M9R!W:71H(`I<8B!7971086EN="`*7&(P(&%N9"!))VT@<V5A<F-H:6YG(&9O M<B!T:&4@8V]R<F5C="!W87D@=&\@86-C;VUP;&ES:"!T:&4@9F]L;&]W:6YG M.EP*7`I)(&AA=F4@82!S8V%N;F5D(&EN(&EM86=E+"!A;F0@82!T87)G970@ M:6UA9V4N("!)('=A;G0@=&\@;6%K92!T:&4@<V-A;FYE9"!I;6%G92!P87)T M;'D@=')A;G-P87)E;G0L(&%N9"!P;&%C92!I="!O;B!T;W`@;V8@=&AE('1A M<F=E="!I;6%G92Y<"EP*22!H879E('EE="!T;R!G970@=&AI<R!R:6=H="P@ M=&AO=6=H(&1A=&]P('=A<R!C;&]S92X@($]R(&ES('1H97)E(&$@9FEL=&5R M('1H86X@8V%N(&%C8V]M<&QI<V@@=&AI<R!F;W(@;64_7`I<"@I<<&%R9%QT M>#4R,%QT>#$P-C!<='@Q-C`P7'1X,C$R,%QT>#(V-C!<='@S,C`P7'1X,S<R M,%QT>#0R-C!<='@T.#`P7'1X-3,R,%QF<S(T7&9C,%QC9C`@+2U<"D]-3DE6 M15)304P@05=!4D5.15-3/S\@($]H+"!914@A(2`@1FER<W0@>6]U(&YE960@ M-"!'04Q,3TY3(&]F($I%3$PM3UP*(&%N9"!A($))1R!74D5.0T@A(2XN+B`@ M22!T:&EN:R!Y;W4@9')O<"!T:"=74D5.0T@@:6X@=&AE($I%3$PM3R!A<R!I M9EP*(&ET('=A<R!A($9,059/4BP@;W(@86X@24Y'4D5$245.5"XN+B`@+BXN M;W(N+BY)+BXN=6TN+BX@(%=(15)%)U,@=&AE7`H@5T%32$E.1R!-04-(24Y% M4S]<"B!<"DAO=V%R9"!3:&EP("!H<VAI<$!Z96XN8V%C+G-T<F%T=7,N8V]M M("!;3F585"!-86EL($]+72`@8#@T($=0>B`W-3!<"@DB22!L=7)K(&YO="P@ 9;F5I=&AE<B!D;R!)(&9L86UE+B)<"@I]"B`W `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pat@biocat1.iit.edu (pathikrit bandyopadhyay) Subject: disk fragmentation Message-ID: <1994Jul25.195320.3052@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 19:53:20 GMT hi i will like to know how next handles disk fragmentation and if there is any software to fix disk fragmentation. thank you.
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Loginwindow Image? Date: 25 Jul 1994 19:03:02 GMT Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics Message-ID: <311296$gfm@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu> Where is the image of the login window kept in 3.2? I need a copy, but can't exactly use Grab.... Thanks in advance! -Richard Larson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) Subject: Re: Loginwindow Image? Message-ID: <CtIxyw.1y7@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <311296$gfm@ysics.physics.sunysb.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 01:40:08 GMT Richard K. Larson writes >Where is the image of the login window kept in 3.2? I need a copy, but >can't exactly use Grab.... All of the loginwindow tiffs are in /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app. -- Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Date: 26 Jul 1994 05:03:31 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3125f3$e98@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <30vi15$6mk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> In article <30vi15$6mk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) writes: > Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote: > > : Trivia: anyone remember how much the NEXTSTEP/AIX > : manual set for PS systems sold for at NeXTWorld Expo '93? > : ;-) > > Well? I believe it was about $1,200 to a Boston area developer and known collector of NeXT trivia items! -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: 26 Jul 1994 05:06:02 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3125jq$e9b@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <1994Jul25.171952.28463@FreemanSoft.com> A simple "RTF" or "long" in the subject would have been, to say it kindly, more polite of EPS. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 26 Jul 1994 01:11:39 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <3125ub$gli@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://digifix.digifix.com/ it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. The entries are coming in quite quickly, and currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@digifix.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. Comp.Sys.Next.Announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. Comp.Sys.Next.Misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. Comp.Sys.Next.Software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. Comp.Lang.Objective-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by anonymous ftp. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. 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These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. 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If you have problems using this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: pom@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Summary: Objective-C interface to Versant? Date: 26 Jul 1994 08:49:40 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <312in4$esa@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> References: <30io3h$qn5@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> In article <30io3h$qn5@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> I wrote: > Can anyone tell me about the Objective-C interface to Versant? > No one could. -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet D-55101 Mainz, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> <310md5$ol2@transfer.stratus.com> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:35:28 GMT Message-ID: <CtJH76.65x@spcuna.spc.edu> R. Craig Dodson (cdodson@vortex) wrote: : In article <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: : > Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : > : > Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has : > to be up 24/7 : > : > Nick : > : Then why not shell out the minimal $$$ for a real Commercial-quality : X emulator like Co-Xist from Pencom ? : We did and it works very well. : Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) : cdodson@zen.cac.stratus.com Is CUBX or CO-XIST better? -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: pom@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Summary: EOF vs. AccessKit vs. OO-Database? Date: 26 Jul 1994 08:57:19 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <312j5f$euh@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> References: <30iou2$qrj@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> In article <30iou2$qrj@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> I wrot: > I'm interested in a comparision between three approaches to make objects > persistent: > > - Object-oriented database (OODB, e.g. POET, Versant, O2, IDB, ...) > - AccessKit + relational DB > - Enterprise Object Framework (EOF) > > Questions: > > 1. What are the differences between AccessKit and EOF? > > 2. Does EOF (or AccessKit) + relational DB make the use of an OODB > obsolete? > > 3. What kind of relational DB does EOF (or AccessKit) need (or even > flatfile or IXKit or dBASE)? Any DB with a DBKit Adaptor? Or are there > more specific requirements? > Answer to 1: None Answer to 2 by Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com>: + Probably not, because EOF adds additional layers to make + a RDBMS behave like an OODBMS which undoubtedly includes + a performance penalty. For complex data that are ideally + stored in a OODBMS, performance of an EOF-RDMBS system + will undoubtedly be considerably worse. But this is all + conjecture on my part :-) But EOF should ease the eventual + transition from a RDBMS to an OODBMS. Answer to 2 by Ivo Rothschild <equinox1!ivor@gun.com>: + No it doesn't. The main difference is the (of course) is + the DB model - which can affect performance, space + efficiency etc. Depending on the type of data you are + storing, an OOBD could be able to give you better + performance because it does away with joins. Redundant + data can be eliminated from an OODB which you may need to + have in a relational system for performance reasons. As + well, most OO databases do not restrict you to the limited + number of field types in relational systems. + + On top of this, many OO databases have features not found + in any RDBMS's such as object versioning, active objects + etc. Answer to 3 by Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com>: + DBKit adaptors won't work with EOF. So you'll need an EOF + adaptor to use EOF. But EOF supports essentially any sort + of data source including relational and + object-oriented databases, flat files, IndexingKit + store files, live feeds, etc. But an appropriate adaptor + must exist or be written. Thank you. -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet D-55101 Mainz, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: CD Sample Recording Quality Message-ID: <1994Jul26.092608.18175@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <310cpl$af7@ns.RezoNet.NET> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 09:26:08 GMT dguthrie@fsight2.com (Don Guthrie) writes: >How do you go about associating certain files types with programs? >I need to set OmniImage as the default tool for all graphic images. >However Image Viewer seems to be the default tool at this moment. >I can change it on a file-by-file basis however I need to set it >globally to OmniImage for all image files. What the hack has this to do with "CD Sample Recording Quality" ;-) Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Sybase?? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 26 Jul 1994 10:57:46 GMT Organization: Xedoc Software Development Pty Ltd Message-ID: <312q7a$e3a@yarrina.connect.com.au> References: <1994Jul21.025157.12451@riacs.edu> Alex Woo (woo@ra-iris.arc.nasa.gov) wrote: : During the early versions of NextStep, a limited Sybase package : was bundled in. In those days I didn't have a use for Sybase, : now I do. Is there still a version of Sybase for NextStep : which works under 3.x of the OS? InterBase? How much? : Alex Woo : woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov It's still listed as a separate product. The client libraries come bundled, but the server needs to be purchased separately. Contact NeXT for details. Cameron. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley cdb@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax +61-3-696-6757 222 Park St., Phone +61-3-696-2490 South Melbourne VIC, 3206 Australia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: CD Sample Recording Quality Message-ID: <1994Jul26.064625.2282@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <310cpl$af7@ns.RezoNet.NET> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 06:46:25 GMT In article <310cpl$af7@ns.RezoNet.NET> dguthrie@fsight2.com (Don Guthrie) writes: > How do you go about associating certain files types with programs? It depends on what types an app already accepts. If the app doesn't accept your program type, there was an old app called Unknown that could do this; Opener is a current app that can still do it. > I need to set OmniImage as the default tool for all graphic images. > However Image Viewer seems to be the default tool at this moment. > I can change it on a file-by-file basis however I need to set it > globally to OmniImage for all image files. Use Workspace->Tools->Inspector (Tool Inspector). This sets the default app by file type (not file by file; you can't do that). Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: 26 Jul 1994 13:02:13 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <3131gl$5dq@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <0iAeaji00WBNI1FL8A@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Jul25.075007.965@ToTSySSoft.com> In article <1994Jul25.075007.965@ToTSySSoft.com> Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes: > It was actually an uncompressed .tiff You can thank J----- A---- for that. The original *was* compressed. Sigh. Someone needs to write a NewsGrazer-compatible Rich Text article forger. :-) -=EPS=- -- You haven't experienced pain until you've had to smash your true- color TIFFs into GIFs for cretinous 8-bit indexed color displays, and then have to color reduce _again_ to display multiple images in in the same window. X sucks. X is evil. X must die.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fj@cwi.nl (FJ!!) Subject: need screendump Message-ID: <CtJtKK.Bny@cwi.nl> Sender: news@cwi.nl (The Daily Dross) Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Distribution: eunet Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:02:44 GMT Hi. For my project write-up, I need a screendump of some aspects of the NeXT User Interafce. I was wondering if someone with a NeXT system could get in touch with me so that we can arrange things? I need only one good screendump with some certain elements in it, so that I can compare with other systems. FJ!!
From: jzinn@math.tamu.edu (Joel Zinn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: defaults Date: 26 Jul 1994 13:38:31 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <3133kn$fl6@news.tamu.edu> Keywords: Emacs, Edit Does anyone know how to change the defaults? For example, my default editor is Emacs and I would like to change it to Edit. Thanks in advance, -Joel Zinn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau) Subject: Re: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Message-ID: <1994Jul26.131943.4125@planon.qc.ca> Sender: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau) References: <310kih$eev@manutara.inf.utfsm.cl> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:19:43 GMT In article <310kih$eev@manutara.inf.utfsm.cl> yanko@inf.utfsm.cl (Sebastian Herrera O.) writes: > Conrad Geiger Sunsoft (cgeiger@davis.Central.Sun.COM) wrote: > : Yes, David. Solaris (and hence OpenStep) will run on the PowerPC. The > : port is underway; in fact, Solaris on the PowerPC is being shown > : in the Sun booth at PC Expo in New York City this week. > > : Conrad Geiger > : SunSoft > > Does this apply to PowerMacs ?? > > Or are we talking about IBM's ppc workstations or even some > to-be-made machines using ppc's ?? > > I understand the chip is the same but the arquitecture is not, > so = trouble. > > yanko You are perfecly right to ask that question. My NeXTSTATION uses a Motorolla 68040 chip and runs NEXTSTEP for NEXT Computers. I also have a Macintosh that uses exacly the same processor but I can't install NeXTSTEP on it. The chip is one thing, the architecture is another one, as important as the other. It is not beacause SUN claims to run on PPC that the Power Macs will be OPENSTEP capable. Yanik This is my own personnal opinion. It does not represent necessarly the opinion of my employer. -- Yanik Crepeau OUI a soc.culture.quebec Programmer Planon Telexpertise E-Mail: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Date: 26 Jul 1994 16:03:07 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <313c3r$sjr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <3131gl$5dq@nic-nac.CSU.net> In article <3131gl$5dq@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: > In article <1994Jul25.075007.965@ToTSySSoft.com> Bruce Gingery > <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes: > > It was actually an uncompressed .tiff > > You can thank J----- A---- for that. The original *was* compressed. Please don't beat up on J----- A---- for NG. He provided a free tool that many folks use and enjoy. Like all software, it has its warts. He no longer has control of NG source so cannot fix the warts, so it's up to users to use it responsibly until a suitable replacement is found. NG has been around for a long time without any replacement appearing which probably indicates how difficult providing a replacement would be, especially considering that NG is free. So rather than posting a large tiff, posting how to obtain the tiff (anonymous ftp, email, NeXT archives, etc.) would be a more responsible approach. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Message-ID: <CtJGv1.GL@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <310kih$eev@manutara.inf.utfsm.cl> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:28:12 GMT In article <310kih$eev@manutara.inf.utfsm.cl> yanko@inf.utfsm.cl (Sebastian Herrera O.) writes: > Conrad Geiger Sunsoft (cgeiger@davis.Central.Sun.COM) wrote: > : Yes, David. Solaris (and hence OpenStep) will run on the PowerPC. The port > : is underway; in fact, Solaris on the PowerPC is being shown in the Sun booth > : at PC Expo in New York City this week. > > : Conrad Geiger > : SunSoft > > Does this apply to PowerMacs ?? > > Or are we talking about IBM's ppc workstations or even some > to-be-made machines using ppc's ?? > > I understand the chip is the same but the arquitecture is not, > so = trouble. > > yanko > I asked Conrad, and he said that means PreP Systems. Lets hope PowerMacs get PreP compatible RSN! Hans
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Date: 26 Jul 1994 17:28:15 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <313h3f$7h7@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <30p2fk$eki@hpscit.sc.hp.com> I don't think you *could* port OpenStep to HP UX as it is. Roland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Can I attach SCSI devices while the machine is running? Message-ID: <CtGJ8E.rr@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 18:26:38 GMT I use my NeXTstation (black hardware running NEXTSTEP 3.2) only a few hours per day or week and don't always turn on the external devices (e.g. the CDROM drive). But then I sometimes need a document or program that is not installed on the hard disk. When this happens I have to log off, power up the device and restart the machine. Is there a way to make an external SCSI device known to the system after it was booted? I understand that the devices are polled and registered in an early boot phase before the `rc' scripts are executed. When I try to ``mount /dev/sd1a'' it says that there is no such device or address. Thanks, Stephan PS: Please don't tell me to keep the machine running all day or to always turn on the CDROM drive; I've already considered that but don't like it at all. -- Smiley of the day: d:-) baseball player -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: disk fragmentation Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:51:40 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IiBJgwi00iV8Q4eaB2@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Jul25.195320.3052@iitmax.iit.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 25-Jul-94 disk fragmentation by p. bandyopadhyay@biocat1 > hi i will like to know how next handles disk fragmentation and if there is > any software to fix disk fragmentation. NEXTSTEP avoids fragmentation to a good extent via the Berkeley Fast File System. There is normally no need to defrag a NeXT filesystem, which is good, since there is also no software that I know of which can defrag non-destructively. However, doing a dump/restore or some other form of complete filesystem motion will do the trick. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: stephane@planon.qc.ca Subject: Re: OpenStep and PowerPC?? Message-ID: <1994Jul26.155447.4606@planon.qc.ca> Sender: stephane@planon.qc.ca (Stephane Savard) References: <1994Jul26.131943.4125@planon.qc.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:54:47 GMT In article <1994Jul26.131943.4125@planon.qc.ca> yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau) writes: ... > > Does this apply to PowerMacs ?? > > > > Or are we talking about IBM's ppc workstations or even some > > to-be-made machines using ppc's ?? > > > > I understand the chip is the same but the arquitecture is not, > > so = trouble. > > > > yanko ... > The chip is one thing, the architecture is another one, as important as the > other. > > It is not beacause SUN claims to run on PPC that the Power Macs will be > OPENSTEP capable. > > Yanik > My understanding is that the current version of the Power Macintosh are interim version, a transition machine. The final version, next year, should be compatible with the PowerPC reference platform and works with PCI bus instead of nu-bus. So, I believe the Solaris will not be compatible with the current version of the Power Mac (a dead end), but will be with the next year machine Stephane Savard Director R&D Planon Telexpertise Inc. 1370 Joliot-Curie #708 Boucherville, Quebec Canada, J4B 7L9 email: stephane@planon.qc.ca (NeXTmail) ________________________________________ The opinions presented here are my own and not the ones of my organization
From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How much RAM for music dev / HD recording? Date: 26 Jul 1994 13:04:47 GMT Organization: University of Auckland Message-ID: <3131lf$c94@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz> At present I'm subsisting on 8 Meg RAM for the music development and hard disk recording I'm doing as part of my MMus. While I've just purchased a nice big fat fast HD, I'm wondering how much I'm being limited by a fairly small RAM. What would be normally considered adequate? (BTW the apps I'm writing are generally pretty small sound utilities for interfacing with Csound etc.) I've been having significant problems getting my DATport to digitally output sound without clicks in the playback. The new HD has (I think) helped. Would more RAM fix the problem entirely? (Informed comment appreciated). Steve steve.brandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks) Subject: Re: Using NeXTs as intercomms? Message-ID: <CtKH48.9A8@ilink.de> Sender: usenet@ilink.de Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin References: <30f0pf$khn@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 21:31:19 GMT There's a a program called CB from David B. Moffett (dmoffett@darpa.mil) In article <30f0pf$khn@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: > Does anyone know of a way to use NeXTs as intercomms, i.e., being able to > speak into the builtin mike on one, and have it immediately play back on > another? > -- > Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer > Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition > Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara > <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How much RAM for music dev / HD recording? Date: 26 Jul 1994 18:29:12 -0400 Organization: Brooklyn College Message-ID: <3142no$hsm@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> References: <3131lf$c94@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz> 8MB RAM is really too small for digital audio. we did it for years, and when we finally got more RAM (some 32MB, some 16MB) we couldnt belive the diff erence. especially when working with sound editors, and mixers. i cant encourage you enough to get more ram. what is your setup? do you have RT and Edsndpow? stealth or AD64x? the NeXT swaps like hell, but really RAM is important. for digital audio try and get 16-32MB . let me know if i can help you in any way. Everything Everbest, kevin parks 2928 avenue p apt. 3f brooklyn, ny 11229-1896 the center for computer music conservatory of music brooklyn college of the city university of new york 2900 bedford ave. brooklyn, ny 11210-2889 E-mail: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu .:
From: ric-mommer@uiowa.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ## NS/i display options ## Date: 26 Jul 1994 21:58:41 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3140uh$og3@nexus.uiowa.edu> What is the best adapter card available for NEXTSTEP/Intel? Where can I get it? I have heard of the Miro, but can't find one. Also, Is the Viewsonic 17" display better than the Sony 17" Trinitron? I've heard good things about it, but not in comparison. Thanks... Ric -- Ric Mommer (ric-mommer@uiowa.edu) | "The weather is here... moderator, Newton archive | I wish you were beautiful" newton.uiowa.edu | -Jimmy Buffet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Message-ID: <1994Jul26.205322.4179@millennium.com> Keywords: Not blockes, blockheads! Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <0iAeaji00WBNI1FL8A@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Jul25.075007.965@ToTSySSoft.com> <3131gl$5dq@nic-nac.CSU.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 20:53:22 GMT In article <3131gl$5dq@nic-nac.CSU.net>, Eric P. Scott writes: > In article <1994Jul25.075007.965@ToTSySSoft.com> Bruce Gingery > <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes: > > It was actually an uncompressed .tiff > > You can thank J----- A---- for that. The original *was* compressed. I never told you to do a stupid thing like posting the image - that was your brain (probably firing on a couple cylinders) in action, not anyone else's. __jayson info@farcast.com
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Does HP make black 712's? Date: 26 Jul 1994 23:35:58 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3146ku$jda@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Well, do they? mark
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ## NS/i display options ## Date: 27 Jul 1994 00:41:06 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA) Distribution: world Message-ID: <314af2$k97@news.iastate.edu> References: <3140uh$og3@nexus.uiowa.edu> In article <3140uh$og3@nexus.uiowa.edu>, <ric-mommer@uiowa.edu> wrote: >Also, Is the Viewsonic 17" display better than the Sony 17" Trinitron? >I've heard good things about it, but not in comparison. I have tried the Viewsonic 17 although not on NeXTSTEP. I received two of them. Both of them were in damaged packaging. I had to wait for UPS to place an inspection to prove that I didn't break the monitors myself. After trying a few more times with other vendor selling Viewsonic 17. I gave up. I don't know if now Viewsonic 17 has fixed the package problem or not. All in all, I'm a happy SONY 17se user, sharp, crispy... burning my eyes... >;) Chris -- NeXTMail super welcomed!!| Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science <:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fell@binah.cc.brandeis.edu Subject: cslip for Next Message-ID: <1994Jul27.001913.15420@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 00:19:13 GMT Does anyone know from what archive site I can ftp clip for my turbo? Thanks for any information.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Sybase?? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 26 Jul 1994 20:23:15 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul26212315@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <1994Jul21.025157.12451@riacs.edu> <312q7a$e3a@yarrina.connect.com.au> To: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) In-reply-to: cdb@xedoc.com.au's message of 26 Jul 1994 10:57:46 GMT <cdb@xedoc.com.au> writes: >Alex Woo (woo@ra-iris.arc.nasa.gov) wrote: >: During the early versions of NextStep, a limited Sybase package >: was bundled in. In those days I didn't have a use for Sybase, >: now I do. Is there still a version of Sybase for NextStep >: which works under 3.x of the OS? InterBase? How much? >: Alex Woo >: woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov >It's still listed as a separate product. The client libraries come >bundled, but the server needs to be purchased separately. Contact >NeXT for details. Be aware that it only runs on M68k.. so you must have at least one of these around to use it. -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Summary: EOF vs. AccessKit vs. OO-Database? Message-ID: <CtKwGA.3x2@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <312j5f$euh@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 03:02:32 GMT Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening writes > > 1. What are the differences between AccessKit and EOF? I am much more familiar with AccessKit thann EOF. Accesskit has a very simple API. Objects are persistent and know how to respond to the following messages. - save - delete (to create an object, alloc and init it, fill it up and send it a save message) databases know how to respond to - objectForClass:qualifier: (to get one object from the database) - fillContainerForClass:qualifier: (to fill a container full of objects) there are many advanced features, but the basic stuff is _very_ straightforward and easy to use. A companion product (UIBinder) falls in the same vein as EOController. here are some differences in random order: EOF has a more complicated interface than access kit. EOF supports multiple database connections, access kit on top of dbkit does not. AccessKit and UIBinder have been shipping for a fairly long time, and have been upgraded significantly as users found bugs and needed features. (There is a new version for both tools now shipping) EOF is still in beta, though reportedly doing well in comparison to dbkit. EOF can do a better job of uniquing since NeXT can be more creative with the runtime and the compiler. EOF will have the strength of NeXT's marketing behind it. UIBinder has sensitivity features that are more flexible and easier to use than chaining EOControllers. finally, a couple of factoids: AccessKit and UIBinder will be available over EOF with the same API. NeXT thought highly enough of access kit to consider buying the company to obtain it, but decided to copy the product instead. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) Subject: Re: Summary: EOF vs. AccessKit vs. OO-Database? Message-ID: <CtL2Jv.44x@genoa.com> Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) Organization: Genoa Software Systems References: <CtKwGA.3x2@genoa.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 05:14:18 GMT following up on my own post: > AccessKit and UIBinder will be available over EOF with the same API. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ let me correct myself. I imagine the API between the current access kit and access kit over EOF will be relatively upwardly compatible, but cannot speak for VNP and don't know exactly what they intend other that they have announced the product will be available with EOF. -- Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes - the final post? Message-ID: <CtKo1w.MA@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <313c3r$sjr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 00:01:06 GMT After a complaint about a well meant some 30k posting (which I did enjoy, btw.) I have seen some other 30 to 50k of posts complaining about waste of bandwidth. For one, telling the original poster in private via mail would have been nicer. Second, shall we stop this now, please? Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Insignia Date: 27 Jul 1994 11:30:34 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <315ggq$sq5@news.tuwien.ac.at> Does anybody know an email-adress of the INSIGNIA company (producer of SoftPC)? --Bernhard Mayr ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mag.rer.nat. D.I. Bernhard J. MAYR Institut f. Nachrichtentechnik u. Hochfrequenztechnik, TU-WIEN mail: bmayr@email.tuwien.ac.at; tel: 58801/3513 ----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Message-ID: <CtLs8r.6qr@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <313h3f$7h7@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 14:29:14 GMT In article <313h3f$7h7@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> writes: >>I don't think you *could* port OpenStep to HP UX as it is. >> >>Roland I think you're right. I don't think the HPUX kernel handles threads. -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com >>> You can thank J----- A---- for that. The original *was* compressed. >> >>I never told you to do a stupid thing like posting the image - that was your >>brain (probably firing on a couple cylinders) in action, not anyone else's. >> >>__jayson >> >>info@farcast.com This is some info highway we've got here. Someone makes a 50k post and the result ?...All the other drivers bitch 'cause he's cloggin' the off ramp ;-) Nothing like a cold cup-o-reality in the morning. Geez, ISDN can't come soon enough. -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: fletcher@nova.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: POSIX and NS Date: 27 Jul 1994 11:09:50 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland University College Message-ID: <315tbu$j9u@nova.umd.edu> Keywords: POSIX Is NEXTSTEP (actually Mach) POSIX compliant? Does this mean any more than the ability to read/write certain files that are suppose to be "portable" by some gov standard. Thanks in advance for the help, Charlie -- NeXTMail to: | ...to confer, converse, and charlie@technosci.com | otherwise hobnob with my | brother wizards.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Can I attach SCSI devices while the machine is running? Message-ID: <CtLu17.7DH@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <CtGJ8E.rr@rodion.muc.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 15:07:52 GMT In article <CtGJ8E.rr@rodion.muc.de> stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) writes: > When this happens I have to log off, > power up the device and restart the machine. Continue to do this. Do not connect/power-up while the machine is running. -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Does HP make black 712's? Message-ID: <CtLu25.7EF@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <3146ku$jda@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 15:08:27 GMT In article <3146ku$jda@gap.cco.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) writes: > > Well, do they? no. -- personal opinions
From: bjones@cais2.cais.com (Peripheral Solutions) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WANTED: Info on Human Resources software Date: 27 Jul 1994 18:00:05 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com Message-ID: <3167b5$sm8@sun.cais.com> I was out at NEXTSTEP Expo and remember seeing a company that was marketing a Human Resources-type of software package. If anyone knows of the name of the package and/or the company, could they please send me the information (i.e name, phone ...). Any other information or experience with this package would also be greatly appreciated. -Bob -- --------------------------------------------- Bob Jones bjones@cais.com Systemworks, Inc. 703-450-7429 ---------------------------------------------
From: groovey@convection.engin.umich.edu (Dawn Kinsey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Seeking Advice on Hard Disk Purchase Date: 27 Jul 1994 18:11:49 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: world Message-ID: <316815INN583@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Originator: groovey@convection.engin.umich.edu We are in need of more hard disk memory. We have a NeXT station. We would like to know if there are any advantages to internal vs external disks; also if there are recommended or not recommended brands. Is it wise to buy used? It looks like we will likely be able to buy a new one for as much as people are asking for used so maybe that won't be an issue. Thanx for you help, Dawn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Hard Disk Purchase Message-ID: <CtMEyy.DnE@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <316815INN583@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 22:40:08 GMT In article <316815INN583@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> groovey@convection.engin.umich.edu (Dawn Kinsey) writes: > We are in need of more hard disk memory. We have a NeXT station. > We would like to know if there are any advantages to internal vs > external disks; internal advantages: takes less desktop. disadvantages have to remove internal. external advantages: easy to disconnect/connect/get repaired/move about disadvantages: have to buy an enclosure and power supply performance considerations: none. all devices are bozos on the SCSI bus also if there are recommended or not recommended > brands. Fujitsu. call Mal Steadman Fast Access (708) 268-8787 he knows NeXTs and Fujitsu. > Is it wise to buy used? It looks like we will likely be able > to buy a new one for as much as people are asking for used so maybe > that won't be an issue. In that case, buy new. And, spring for at least 1 GB. You'll be happy down the road. -- personal opinions
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: X for INTEL... Date: 28 Jul 1994 00:20:07 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <316tjo$8uu@news.bu.edu> References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> <30pjdl$35h@alf.uib.no> <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> Operator (root@net23.com) wrote: : Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : : I thought NeXT for Intel had "dual boot" where one can have : : more than one OS on a boot disk, no? : : If it does, what do you need an X for NeXT for? : : Just run Linux. Its free. Its fast. Its stable. Its nice. : : (not as nice as NeXT ;-) : Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has : to be up 24/7 Gee, then you should have no problem affording the very reasonable cost of one of the commercial X packages.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: POSIX and NS Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 21:29:20 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <UiBkbk600iV8I8iUUy@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <315tbu$j9u@nova.umd.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 27-Jul-94 POSIX and NS by Charles Fletcher@nova.um > Is NEXTSTEP (actually Mach) POSIX compliant? Does this mean any more than > the ability to read/write certain files that are suppose to be > "portable" by some gov standard. NEXTSTEP 3.2 is supposedly POSIX 1003.1 compliant. POSIX compliance implies a number of things about the system calls that are available, it mandates the existence of certain header files, and is supposed to make life easier for programmers porting software between different systems. Unfortunately, NeXT does not make POSIX available in a very useful way, since they explicitly disclaim using POSIX compatibility with "NEXTSTEP applications", (ie, so you currently can't use the AppKit with POSIX). This is also what other operating systems do (Windows NT comes to mind), and is the reason some people consider POSIX to be pretty much worthless. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: xanim2.68 Date: 27 Jul 1994 23:57:17 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <316s8t$49j@fermat.mayo.edu> Has anymone succesfully compiled xanim v2.68 for NS-motorola? If so, how about telling me how you did it? --- _________________________________________ Paul Buckley Mayo Graduate School (NeXT Mail) Guggenheim 14 buckley@mayo.edu 200 First Street SW FAX 507-284-9349 Rochester, MN TEL 507-284-2065 55905 _________________________________________ "It's hard to be ethnic in the land of seven-jello marshmallow cottage cheese surprise." --Molly Ivins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) Subject: Re: How much RAM for music dev / HD recording? Message-ID: <rscottCtMrFz.45@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <3131lf$c94@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 03:09:35 GMT In article <3131lf$c94@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz> sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon) writes: >At present I'm subsisting on 8 Meg RAM for the music development and hard >disk recording I'm doing as part of my MMus. While I've just purchased a >nice big fat fast HD, I'm wondering how much I'm being limited by a fairly >small RAM. > I mixed 2 hours of commercially recorded acoustic piano on an 040 cube using Singular Solutions AD64x, 1gig Seagate external, and SoundWorks 3.0. The addition of 16 megs 4x4 to my original 12 solved all of the problems you have probably been encountering. Clicks in output may or maynot be from the ProPort. I think it depends on how you define click. I don't know the software you are using, but you are probably running into swap problems. 24 megs will increase your enthusiasm for working with NextStep. Charlie Dvorak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) Subject: Where is Pinnacle? Message-ID: <rscottCtMs2p.1q1@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Distribution: na Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 03:23:11 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) Subject: Where is Pinnacle? Message-ID: <rscottCtMu6y.5tx@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Distribution: na Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 04:08:58 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where is Pinnacle? Summary: Followup-To: Distribution: na Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Keywords: Can anyone point me to the owners of licensing rights to Presto/Sequence? I have called the office of Pinnacle Research in Toronto many times. The recording is there but no one returns the call. Thanks. Charles Dvorak (310) 454-8091 rscott@netcom.com Los Angeles
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Hard Disk Purchase Date: 28 Jul 1994 05:42:38 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA) Message-ID: <317gge$sc6@news.iastate.edu> References: <316815INN583@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <CtMEyy.DnE@txnews.amd.com> In article <CtMEyy.DnE@txnews.amd.com>, <charles.herrick@amd.com> wrote: >external > advantages: > easy to disconnect/connect/get repaired/move about > disadvantages: > have to buy an enclosure and power supply While we are on the harddrive subject, may I ask if anyone know how I can convert my internal SCSI harddrive to an external one? Where do I buy the enclosure and power supply? Thanks guys. Chris -- NeXTMail super welcomed!!| Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science <:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: os9@bga.com (Michael R. M. Cheselka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can't boot NeXT anymore. Help! Date: 28 Jul 1994 08:03:59 -0500 Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates Message-ID: <318abv$dtv@ivy.bga.com> References: <CtGA7o.7J@rodion.muc.de> In article <CtGA7o.7J@rodion.muc.de>, Stephan Wacker <stephan@rodion.muc.de> wrote: >have changed the netinfo database in ``/etc/netinfo/local/nidb'' you will >need to install a recent backup of the whole directory. What if you don't have a backup of /etc/netinfo/local/nidb? I can't repair the damage to nidb, because it won't load netinfo to begin with( something about bad communication). I think the problem is that I changed my IP address to 198.6.201.0 because I was unsure what IP address I would be given upon connecting, but that causes it to think that there a server it needs to connect with. Its hang waiting for an nfgs server. 'niutil, nidomain, nidump, and niload have been of no use because they only work if netinfod is running. Isn't there a sample nidb that is used on startup( when you first put the os on the machine)? -- cheselka@donna.rtf.utexas.edu N5UVV Michael R. M. Cheselka cheselka@cactus.org Hangs out on 145.21mhz 400 W. 34th. St. #103 os9@gnu.ai.mit.edu and 147.18mhz Austin, TX 78705-1331 os9@bga.com W (512) 472-9549v 4pm-6pm,M-F H (512) 452-9412v 24hrs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Insignia Message-ID: <CtnEE7.M9@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <315ggq$sq5@news.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 11:25:18 GMT In article <315ggq$sq5@news.tuwien.ac.at> bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr) writes: > Does anybody know an email-adress of the INSIGNIA company (producer of > SoftPC)? Insignia Solutions, Inc. DOS and Windows application support 508-682-7600 Insigmv!marc@netcom.com Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: new version of Xox and a new game almost Date: 28 Jul 1994 12:48:29 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3189et$q6@rosie.next.com> Hola compadres! I just put a new version of Xox on the cs.orst.edu ftp site; it's only slightly changed with a couple of small bug fixes, but Xoxeroids afficinados will notice a few level changes. I also submitted source and binary to a skeletal version of the Defender arcade game. It's close enough that anyone that ever wanted to write this game will be stoked because most of the work is done, but skeletal enough that anyone that actually wants to play defender will be disappointed. It does play somewhat and makes an ok demo, but I've been sitting on it for months and it's clear I won't be able to finish it. I hope someone does something great with it! Finally, I'll be fulfulling a long-standing dream of travelling through Asia for the next few months, and I won't be reading email. (!) Keep the faith and I'll see y'all when I get back. cheers, -sam -- Opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer. They're not even mine. They're probably wrong besides. How did they get in here, anyway?
From: michael@cogito.iaee.tuwien.ac.at (Michael Suessner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TIFF conversion? Date: 28 Jul 1994 16:11:06 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <318laq$r2n@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi, I have created some images using the Grab application. I tried to import it into a Microsoft Word document, but MS has problems to understand NeXT specific file filters. How can I convert the TIFF-image to a standard image file format, which DOS World applications are able to open? Thanks in advance -- ====================================================== Suessner Michael Arbeitsgruppe Neuronale Elektronik Institut fuer Allgemeine Elektrotechnik und Elektronik Vienna Technical University Tel.: Austria-(0)222-58801-3754 E-MAIL: michael@rs2.iaee.tuwien.ac.at suessner@ps1.iaee.tuwien.ac.at NeXTmail: michael@cogito.iaee.tuwien.ac.at
From: Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NexT and NetWare Date: 28 Jul 1994 17:10:38 GMT Organization: University of Constance Message-ID: <318oqe$666@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Hi there, We are running a Nextcluster attached to a NetWareServer. When people log into the Netwareserver from the NextStation, the connection remains open as they leave the NextStation unless they manually close the connection. How can one automatically switch off the connection. Has someone run into similar problems and found the answer. Thanks in advance. Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: DTP and word proc. on Gecko? Message-ID: <1994Jul28.150230.1650@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <30ooi9$hh2@alf.uib.no> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:02:30 GMT In article <30ooi9$hh2@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: > If I decide to get a Gecko, what DTP and word processing apps > exist? I'm in the middle of writing my dissertation in Frame, > if I get a Gecko I need a stable and useable system from the > minute I start up the machine until I'm finished with my article. AFS is committed to providing both WriteUp (word processing) and PasteUp (DTP) on HP within 30 days after NeXT ships the final release of the OS. Our recent beta test cycle for WriteUp 1.1 included about 20 HP sites, so we feel confident there will be no unexpected delays in this schedule. Contact WriteUp@afs.com or PasteUp@afs.com for more information. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Did Denise find her man? Message-ID: <1994Jul28.150433.27086@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:04:33 GMT I don't know... BUT, if anyone still is under the impression that I was the blonde-in-pink dancing with 3 men at the rave, then this is for you: I'm a very tall male, wear lots of black leather and drive a motorcycle... uh, well maybe that's someone else. I am still male though, and do not in any way resemble a blonde in a pink blazer. Nathan, please add this to the FAQ. - darcy -- I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
From: mcdaniel@geneva.crew.umich.edu (Susan McDaniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: what is FASTLINK???? Date: 28 Jul 1994 17:09:41 GMT Organization: Cognitive Science and Machine Intelligence Lab, U. of MIichigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <318ool$ef3@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Summary: dump error Keywords: backups, dump, inodes Anyone know what FASTLINK is? I posted a message a few days ago about a dump error I'm getting and got no response. The dump error message is: DUMP: Found FASTLINK inode with di_size too big I have NeXT Color Turbos and can dump the internal hard drives (~500MB) without any problem, but when I try to dump the external 2GB drive I get the above error. Please, any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Susan McDaniel mcdaniel@umich.edu
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new version of Xox and a new game almost Date: 28 Jul 1994 18:00:00 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <318rn0$171@rosie.next.com> References: <3189et$q6@rosie.next.com> In article <3189et$q6@rosie.next.com> sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper) writes: ] Hola compadres! << stuff about a new XoX and half-finished defender module deleted >> ] cheers, ] -sam hey... and while you're on the archive sites, check out a wimpy little XoX module I wrote a few months back that sam finally convinced me to release. It's called "Shoot", and although a little mindless... it's kind of fun. later, Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Subject: Re: NeXT building blockes Message-ID: <1994Jul28.203225.18182@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:32:25 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO References: <1994Jul25.171952.28463@FreemanSoft.com> <3125jq$e9b@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Sorry to rain on your bandwidth "discussion" but I couldn't even use that image because I needed an EPS. I say needed because one of my roommates has created one, so if you would like an EPS of the NeXT building blocks email me (these will be in 16bit color). -Mont
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Can't boot NeXT anymore. Help! Message-ID: <Cto5ut.773@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <318abv$dtv@ivy.bga.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 21:18:27 GMT In article <318abv$dtv@ivy.bga.com> os9@bga.com (Michael R. M. Cheselka) writes: Isn't there a sample nidb that is used on startup( when you first put > the os on the machine)? /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo/local.nidb You can get this copied onto /etc/netinfo/local.nidb if you boot in single user mode: Hit the Command key and the tilde enter h enter b sd -s -- personal opinions
From: cosc19va@simpsons.egr.uh.edu (David Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Bus logic driver? Date: 28 Jul 1994 21:36:36 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <3198d4$bhr@masala.cc.uh.edu> can some one tell me where I can get the buslogic 445S SCSI host adaptor driver? it doesn't seem to be at ftp.next.com is this thing available commercially or as a free device driver? thanks -- David Wang 1 Cougar Place Dr. #1224 Houston, Tx 77004 (713)743-7589
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cfctech!network.cfc.com!t6882tm@msen.com> From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec)) Message-ID: <9407281926.AA01376@network.cfc.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:26:28 -0400 Subject: writing tools: summary (long) My original post: >Background Info: >There is a series of books waiting to be written. Each of the books in this >series will be written by one, perhaps two, perhaps three people. All the >writing will be done on NEXTSTEP--Intel and Motorola. Each book will be >composed of text and graphics of some sort. The objective is to produce both >hardcopy and electronic forms of each book. The electronic forms must have >some sort of hypertext navigation. > >Questions: >What are the best tools to use for writing this kind of book? PasteUp, LaTeX, >Frame, Pages, etc.? And what are the advantages and unique features of each >of these tools (please include your religious as well as your factual >arguments)? >What about revision control software for the projects? > >Please email me. I'll post a summary if there's interest. > >Timothy Mills >t6882tm@network.cfc.com >NeXTmail welcomed! My thanks to those who responded: Dan Johnston <dan@memory.mbl.edu> Jacob Gore <jacob.gore@mccaw.com> Kris Magnusson In addition, Hal Varian has recommended that I use LaTex, and another friend swears by Frame. So, it seems that there is no consensus and no one, really great tool on NEXTSTEP that most would recommend to use for this task. Here are their replies in full as requested by other interested parties: Well, I just finished a 700 pg textbook using latex on the next. It has about 450 illustrations obtained from various draw programs, pictex, and scans. All are included within the latex file using \begin{figure} \epsffile{*.eps} ...\end{figure}, etc. It is really quite easy using the dvips available for the next. Emacs (using Bebe's latex mode), texmenu, texview etc, are *wonderful* utilities that make using latex on the next a breeze. Other than figure placement, which is a bit of a pain in latex until you get the hang of it, I can't imagine a better way of doing a book. Remember, tex has automatic indexing and table of contents generation, heading, section, equation, and figure numbering, etc. When the document starts getting large, having all of this done for you automatically saves a huge amount of time. We produced a completely electronic file (~500megs) for the book, which will actually be one of the first done this way by the publisher and printer. Good luck, dan -- Dan Johnston, Professor of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine, 1 Baylor Plaza, Houston, TX 77030 Internet: dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (NeXTmail ok) (713) 798-5984 (Office phone), (FAX) (713) 799-8544 or (713) 798-3946 ******************************************************** I tend to prefer LaTeX for writing anything long (including books). I like it because the style files can be set up to do amazing things (if you have amazing understanding of TeX and lots of patience:-). If the result needs to be camera-ready, the quality of the typesetting is unsurpassed. Graphics (encapsulated PostScript) are easy to include in the NeXT version, and the previewer is very nice. For a multi-person project, I strongly suggest using RedMark for reviews, and installing CVS (or one of the commercial GUI interfaces to RCS) to do revision control. LaTeX+CVS will make merging changes from several authors or editors very easy. However, you would need some additional tool to generate hypertext. Something along the lines of GNU's `info', but `info' is aimed at character-based terminals, and thus generates quite an ugly page... I am not aware of this kind of tool that is available right now, but I haven't been following these types of tools. I only use PasteUp for short things, and don't use it that much, so I can't comment on how suitable it is. In case you get comments about its flakeyness, let me attest that since being taken over by AFS, it's become a much better product. Version 2.5, the first AFS release (and the latest one at this time) is very good. I have used FrameMaker (whatever version was on the NeXT in 1991) to do a short (~50pp) book. I found it useable, but not as flexible as LaTeX, and its NEXTSTEP interface was lacking. I have used WordPerfect for NeXT to do a ~12pp brochure, and would only recommend it to a competitor :-) For every minute of writing, two minutes were spent convincing WP to put the damned thing where I wanted it. Usually, it would move things to a different page or resize them to a bizarre size. I could swear I was dealing with an artificial (and hostile) intelligence. For the hypertext, I'd consider just using Edit. However, page breaks and numbering will be a problem for printed copy. I'd love to hear what you came up with. Jacob -- Jacob Gore Eastern New Mexico University: jacob@blackbox.enmu.edu Consulting at McCaw Cellular: jacob.gore@nwest.mccaw.com ******************************************************** Actually, I'm writing this book on NS/Intel using Frame 3.2. It's my company's tutorial manual, to be printed in a couple weeks, and then to be transformed into a hypertext document for internal use. I used Frame because a) it's a product I know well; b) it's potentially SGML compliant, and therefore HTML compliant as well; and c) because Frame provides a facility by which I can turn a Frame document into a hypertext reader easily. Revision control? Hah. ..................................kris ********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Can I attach SCSI devices while the machine is running? Message-ID: <1994Jul28.180625.1736@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <CtLu17.7DH@txnews.amd.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 18:06:25 GMT In article <CtLu17.7DH@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: * In article <CtGJ8E.rr@rodion.muc.de> * stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) writes: * > When this happens I have to log off, * > power up the device and restart the machine. * Continue to do this. * Do not connect/power-up while the machine is running. As an amusing aside, many years ago, the Sun System Adminstration Manual stated a similar issue in a [unintentionally] humorous way: Never mount a running client ........ Henry
From: os9@bga.com (Michael R. M. Cheselka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can't boot NeXT anymore. Help! Date: 29 Jul 1994 03:15:41 -0500 Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates Message-ID: <31adrd$3ln@ivy.bga.com> References: <CtGA7o.7J@rodion.muc.de> <318abv$dtv@ivy.bga.com> In article <318abv$dtv@ivy.bga.com>, Michael R. M. Cheselka <os9@bga.com> wrote: >In article <CtGA7o.7J@rodion.muc.de>, >Stephan Wacker <stephan@rodion.muc.de> wrote: >>have changed the netinfo database in ``/etc/netinfo/local/nidb'' you will >>need to install a recent backup of the whole directory. > >What if you don't have a backup of /etc/netinfo/local/nidb? I can't >repair the damage to nidb, because it won't load netinfo to begin >with( something about bad communication). I think the problem is that >I changed my IP address to 198.6.201.0 because I was unsure what IP >address I would be given upon connecting, but that causes it to think >that there a server it needs to connect with. Its hang waiting for an >nfgs server. 'niutil, nidomain, nidump, and niload have been of no >use because they only work if netinfod is running. > >Isn't there a sample nidb that is used on startup( when you first put >the os on the machine)? > Several people have sent me mail to let me know that there is one in: /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo/... Set a passwd on 'me' and everything should work out. -- cheselka@donna.rtf.utexas.edu N5UVV Michael R. M. Cheselka cheselka@cactus.org Hangs out on 145.21mhz 400 W. 34th. St. #103 os9@gnu.ai.mit.edu and 147.18mhz Austin, TX 78705-1331 os9@bga.com W (512) 472-9549v 4pm-6pm,M-F H (512) 452-9412v 24hrs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: POSIX and NS Message-ID: <Cto2DL.6Lt@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <UiBkbk600iV8I8iUUy@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 20:03:21 GMT In article <UiBkbk600iV8I8iUUy@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Unfortunately, NeXT does not make POSIX available in a very useful way, >since they explicitly disclaim using POSIX compatibility with "NEXTSTEP >applications", (ie, so you currently can't use the AppKit with POSIX). >This is also what other operating systems do (Windows NT comes to mind), >and is the reason some people consider POSIX to be pretty much worthless. Yes, but how often do you expect to find a NeXTStep API under Windows NT or MPE/iX? :-) -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SciPlot 3.9 Message-ID: <1994Jul29.135844.8203@rz-berlin.mpg.de> From: mike@rz-berlin.mpg.de (Michael Wesemann) Date: 29 Jul 94 13:58:44 +0100 Nntp-Posting-User: nntp_client Hello ! SciPlot version 3.9 (NeXT,Intel,HP), the scientific 2D plotting and manipulation program is now available. It available via WWW at: http://calamity.rz-berlin.mpg.de/ mike@calamity.rz-berlin.mpg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us (Robert C. Doss) Subject: What are the options to /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Inform? Message-ID: <CtM652.InK@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 19:29:22 GMT What are some of the options for /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Inform? Specifically, I want to be able to change the button text and the printer icon that is displayed. Does anyone have any ideas how I can do this? -- *---------------------------------------------------------------------* |Robert C. Doss Jr. |Internet:RobDoss@nvc.cc.ca.us|NeXT mail & MIME ok| |Napa Valley College|Fax: (707) 253-3063 |MIME mail preferred| *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,comp.infosystems.www From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: Networking NeXT PCs and PCs running windows! Message-ID: <CtpE9n.H8K@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: poster Summary: most optimal way to do so... Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 13:17:46 GMT greetings NeXT, windows users, and WWW folks, I have been given the rather interesting task of networking 8-12 NeXT-based PCs with PCs which are running windows. anyone wanna try to come up with some optimal configurations? here's some specs: the NeXT-based PCs must be able to be networked between 5 sites in 3 states. the windows PCs must be able to be networked off of this LAN. ie, access the NeXT files. we'll want to access WWW both off of NeXT and the PCs. i'm looking for recommendations in the network configuration, hardware requirements (what NeXT machine would make the best server? or can i use a SUN 670?), keeping in mind that this network has to be expandable. many many many many many many thanx, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: WANTED: list/overview of apps planned for HP NeXTStep. Message-ID: <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com References: <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:16:21 GMT In article <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: > Does there exist a list or overview of NeXTSTEP apps which > have been ported, or are planned ported (i.e. the author(s) > have announced their intent to release a HP version) to HP? I don't think anyone is keeping an official list, but I can say that AFS is committed to providing both WriteUp (word processing) and PasteUp (DTP) on HP within 30 days after NeXT ships the final release of the OS. Since I haven't complained all month, and it's getting near the end 8^), I'll take this opportunity to climb on the soapbox and complain about the lack of a 3.3 Developer release, which means that the only triple-FAT compiler will be in the HP release. That's going to put quite a damper on the availability of commercial and non-commercial HP software. Given the size and state of the market, some developers will not be able to justify buying their own Gecko just to recompile their apps triple-FAT. And only kindheartedness on the parts of others will get the public domain stuff moved across. This was a short-sighted move, and I think it violates the spirit of what FAT technology is supposed to represent. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unable to connect between two hi-speed modems Date: 29 Jul 1994 17:11:38 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <31bd8a$24n@hub.ucsb.edu> I have a Zoom high-speed modem on my NeXT at home. Its top baud rate is 19,200. I have it set up with a 19200 getty running so that I can connect to it from my high-speed ZyXel modem at work. From home, I can dial out on that modem at 19200 and connect to my modem at school with no problems. However, I have been unable to do the reverse: when I try to connect to my modem at home from my modem at work, I get what seems to be a correct connection, but I only see ff'''ff~ff~~~~''~~~, etc. I can hear the modems "negotiating, and kermit indicates a connection has been made. I have tried all parity settings, all terminal byte-sizes, and all baud rates from 1200 to 38400, and I get garbage from all of them (different garbage each time). I get the same results when I attempt to connect using tip. I see this: CONNECT 19200/V32b 14400/V42b at 19200, this: CONNECT 9600/V.32 9600T/V42b at 9600, and this: CONNECT 2400/V.22b 2400/NONE when I try to connect at 2400. All of these are followed by garbage where I expect the login prompt. The older 2400 baud modem on our Sparc is also unable to connect to my new modem at home, so it is not unique to my office modem. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: punch@cps.msu.edu (Bill Punch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Conversion: Black-2-White, issues? Date: 29 Jul 1994 17:50:17 GMT Organization: MSU KBS Lab Sender: punch@sol (Bill Punch) Distribution: world Message-ID: <31bfgp$ntm@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> OK, here's my story. I bought a color slab when they first came out, and kept it till last week. I had to sell it, mostly because the two packages I depend upon the most (Smalltalk and FrameMaker) were not being updated. I have between $4-5 K to buy a new machine. I thought about a PowerMac, and still am, but I frankly can't much stand the MacOS. So I'm thinking about a P5-90 running NeXTStep, but I have some questions: 1) Are there any documented P5-90 system configurations one can buy and will work? I've seen the discussion about the Dell XPS-90, how hard is it to set one of these up to run NS-white? 2) How much can one expect to pay for a fairly minimal system (16Mb, 17" screen, 500Gb drive)? 3) How does running on such a system compare to say a NeXT non-turbo color slab? Any "feelings" on it from people who know? 4) How hard is it to switch back and forth from Windows to NS? I want to buy "mainline" software for Windows, so this being left behind doesn't happen to me again. I'm trying to talk myself into NS-white, but the complications with all the incompatibilities is a bit daunting. Any help appreciated. >>>bill<<<
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FrameMaker current release Date: 29 Jul 1994 10:58 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <29JUL199410585372@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Hi. I've seen a few references to Frame[Maker] 3.2. I'm currently running FrameMaker 3.0.1. I thought this was the lastest release of FM for black (i.e. NeXT) hardware. Is this no longer the case? what is the latest release? Where does one get upgrades these days? (I remember seeing a post a while back about some software house working on a new release of FM instead of Frame Tech. itself. ???) Please respond to mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu Don P.S. If there is a newer release, how come I'm not on the announce list?
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SLIP as network gateway Date: 29 Jul 1994 18:58:11 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <31bjg3$i9m@news1.digex.net> Everything is hunky-dory in NeXTSTEP land for me, and now with my brand-spanking new Etherlink III card, everyone else in the house can ping, ftp, and the best, finger me. Now for the question... can I be a gateway for the others to the net? As in, I'm running SLIP and mucking around, can I be their gateway and nameserver? Sure, I know there's no great bandwidth, but it would be useful. If anyone knows if this is possible and/or how you set it up on the various ends, please let me and everyone know! Chris ------------- Home of 'Clubside', the only weekly obscenity-filled rag on the face of the Earth. Free most everywhere (and FTPable soon!). Write us at 'editor@clubside.digex.net' for more info, to get a free copy, or just because you have nothing better to do. We love NeXT-Mail, oh-e-oh. ------------- "Mrs. Crane, I'm looking at you... you wore green so you could hide." -- Carl, 'Caddyshack'
From: sailer@a4430edc.esr.hp.com (Lee Sailer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Does HP make black 712's? Date: 29 Jul 1994 18:49:05 GMT Organization: HP Educational Services Organization Message-ID: <31biv1$4dh@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <3146ku$jda@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <CtLu25.7EF@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com wrote: > In article <3146ku$jda@gap.cco.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) > writes: > > > > Well, do they? > no. > -- But the new IBM AS/400's are black! So, as soon as the POSIX compliant OS/400 is available, and OPENSTEP is ported to POSIX... -- lee
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ## NS/i display options ## Date: 29 Jul 1994 19:05:20 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <31bjth$ifl@news1.digex.net> References: <3140uh$og3@nexus.uiowa.edu> In article <3140uh$og3@nexus.uiowa.edu> ric-mommer@uiowa.edu writes: > > What is the best adapter card available for NEXTSTEP/Intel? Where can I > get it? I have heard of the Miro, but can't find one. > I used to use the Diamond Viper, which worked great at up to 16-bit 1024x768, but now I have a 4MB Stealth64 which is truly great! 32-bit at 1152x864, and 16-bit at 1280x1024 and 1600x1200. It is REALLY fast in NeXT, Windows and DOS, and can be bought in 2MB configuration for faster than Viper (but same specs) performace! I bought mine at Publisher's Toolbox. Call 1-800-555-1212 or check Publish for their number. Chris ------------- Home of 'Clubside', the only weekly obscenity-filled rag on the face of the Earth. Free most everywhere (and FTPable soon!). Write us at 'editor@clubside.digex.net' for more info, a sample copy, or because you have nothing better to do. We love NeXT-Mail, oh-e-oh. ------------- "Mrs. Crane, I'm looking at you... you wore green so you could hide." -- Carl, 'Caddyshack'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Archie2.05a at Purdue Message-ID: <1994Jul29.190406.3636@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 19:04:06 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I was looking for an archie package for the next and saw something at Purdue that looked like a possibility. I downloaded 3.0/src/Archie2.05a.tar.Z from Purdue and discovered it doesn't really contain the source. What it contains is an ftp instruction to a site (Sorry, I don't have the name here.) where the source is (was?). Unfortunately, the ftp attempt fails. I tried to do it manually and discovered the /pub directory requires a login and password. This must have been set up after this package was uploaded a year or so ago. Anyhow, I sent a note to the postmaster at the site but I never heard anything back. I am asking if anybody knows how to get this package or if it or something similar is available from somewhere else that is accessable. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) Subject: Compaq XE 560 Config Problems Message-ID: <dalCtq03G.Jvs@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 21:09:16 GMT After trying to get NS 3.2 installed on my new Compaq Pentium, I've solved all but three problems 1. NS only recognizes 16mb of the 40mb of memory. 2. I installed the new QVision driver (1.1) and no matter what screen size I set it at, it always is 640x480. (I have 2mb VRAM) 3. The Compaq Business Audio doesn't work. I have no idea what to set the DMA and IRQ at, or what port addresses I should be using. Does any have configuration info on a similar machine? I'd love to get all the DMA,IRQ, and Port Addresses for any devices that you have attached. Besides these problems, everything else works great. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dana Letendre | President, LC | You don't learn anything when you're NeXT Sys Admin | talking.
From: mgilula@gate.net (Marshall Gilula) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Daydream ROMbox Date: 29 Jul 1994 22:38:03 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <31c0cb$l4r@tequesta.gate.net> References: <30plic$ilv@agate.berkeley.edu> Sangjin Hong (sangjin@gamow.eecs.berkeley.edu) wrote: : Hi all, : I am selling Daydream ROM box (it makes your NeXT computer into a high : performance Macintosh). It is brand new (still in the box). : If any one interested in buying it, send me an email : sangjin@gamow.eecs.berkeley.edu : I am asking $550. Um...how does the box compare with Clifford's EXECUTOR, which is the standard Mac emulator on the NeXT? -73- -- Marshall F. Gilula, M.D "El que mucho busca nada encuentra, pero mgilula@inca.gate.net el que nada busca mucho encuentra" Co-Founder, MiamiNUG ******standard disclaimers apply******** Carpe resurrectionem mortuorum
From: cbrienh@ix.netcom.com (brien hutzler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compaq XE 560 Config Problems Date: 29 Jul 1994 22:36:03 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <31c08j$ids@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> In <dalCtq03G.Jvs@netcom.com> dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) writes: > >After trying to get NS 3.2 installed on my new Compaq Pentium, I've >solved all but three problems > >1. NS only recognizes 16mb of the 40mb of memory. >2. I installed the new QVision driver (1.1) and no matter what >screen size I set it at, it always is 640x480. (I have 2mb VRAM) >3. The Compaq Business Audio doesn't work. I have no idea what >to set the DMA and IRQ at, or what port addresses I should be using. > >Does any have configuration info on a similar machine? > >I'd love to get all the DMA,IRQ, and Port Addresses for any devices >that you have attached. > >Besides these problems, everything else works great. > >-- >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Dana Letendre | >President, LC | You don't learn anything when you're >NeXT Sys Admin | talking. > Have you called Compukes... sorry Compaqs tech support, and if so what happened??? Re: The memory problem Is there a "linear frame buffer" setting in the CMOS??? That may be part of the problem and you will need to disable this. Be careful, some system boards use double negatives re:this CMOS setting. Also, you may need to disable the system bios shadowing in CMOS. Bummer, this causes the machine to sloooww way down. Your video problems appears that the driver is not taking, you might want to double check your installation procedures. Regarding the sound question sorry but goto line 1 of this post.
From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Newbie on Networking a NeXT to a Macintosh Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 20:51:05 -0500 Organization: Amaranth Communications Message-ID: <5.47639319.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com> Need help on a NeXT networking problem. Got a Macintosh Quadra 610 with built in ethernet. Modem port of the Macintosh has a dialin modem. Printer port of the Macintosh has a SLIP 28,800 set on it, the built-in ethernet is connected to the NeXT. The SLIP connect is dialed into a unix host 24hrs a day. The NeXT for some reson dosn't want to talk to the Macintosh or the net. Here is the IP settings. The Unix host is XXX.XXX.XXX.1, the netblazer is XXX.XXX.XXX.2, the Macintosh with the SLIP is set to XXX.XXX.XXX.10 and the NeXT is set to XXX.XXX.XXX.18. Please note the the NeXT is pluged straight into the Mac and the Mac has the SLIP connect to the unix host. The mac is fine on the net. All the stuff works great. The NeXT seems brain dead to the Mac and to the internet. Please help. I'm lost on this one. Thanks Mark Pappas Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tsar.Princeton.EDU!fuchs (Ira H. Fuchs) Subject: Forwarding a Fax file from the commandline Message-ID: <1994Jul29.143809.29878@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:38:09 GMT Does anyone know how to forward a fax (i.e. fax a fax file) from the commandline (i.e. not from the FaxReader app)? I know how to send a text file as a fax from the commandline by adding the appropriate header lines to the enscripted text but I cannot find a way to fax a fax. I tried using fax2ps but it does not understand Group 4 Fax format (only group 3) and tiff2ps only does one page at at time. Any help would be most appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Recommendations of PC's for running NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Jul30.050736.3268@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 05:07:36 GMT Okay, I admit it, I've been actually thinking about getting a PC for running NEXTSTEP. This black hardware (w/B & W monitor) is getting old. So what are the suggestions? Brands? I've heard lots 'o stories about endless problems, exchanges, etc. I have no interest in putting up with such non-sense just to save a few hundred bucks. So what do y'all have to recommend? -- Chris Cuilla - ccuilla@ccdd.com --- There's no such thing as a 'part-time perfectionist'.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: Compaq XE 560 Config Problems Message-ID: <bchin.775531594@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <31c08j$ids@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 01:26:34 GMT cbrienh@ix.netcom.com (brien hutzler) writes: >Re: The memory problem >Is there a "linear frame buffer" setting in the CMOS??? That may be part > of the problem and you will need to disable this. Be careful, some > system boards use double negatives re:this CMOS setting. > Also, you may need to disable the system bios shadowing in CMOS. Bummer, > this causes the machine to sloooww way down. Well, disabling the system bios shadowing does slow down the machine when executing BIOS code. However, NEXTSTEP (like other protected mode OS's) doesn't use the system BIOS beyond the initial boot since the system BIOS isn't re-entrant (that is having multiple tasks accessing it and doing stuff at the same time). The BIOS was really intended to run simple OS's like DOS. So, your initial bootstrap, like memory checking will be slightly slower, but once NEXTSTEP is running, there is no difference. Same thing with the video BIOS - the NEXTSTEP display drivers have to program the video registers themselves instead of just calling a BIOS routine to initialize the video adapter; makes writing a NEXTSTEP display driver slightly more difficult, especially w/o good technical information. -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: The Fatted Calf CD Date: 30 Jul 1994 08:33:59 GMT Organization: Torsten's Ideenschmiede Distribution: world Message-ID: <31d39n$1ip@eirah.ping.de> Hi! I want to buy "The Fatted Calf CD" from germany and I need to know the prices incl. shipping and the conditions. Does anybody know or can mail me the e-mail addresses of Alembic Systems International or Dancing Bear Enterprises? Many thanx in advance. Bye, Torsten
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Archie2.05a at Purdue Date: 30 Jul 1994 02:03:45 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <31cce1$c08@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1994Jul29.190406.3636@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes: > I was looking for an archie package for the next and saw something at > Purdue that looked like a possibility. > > I downloaded 3.0/src/Archie2.05a.tar.Z from Purdue and discovered it > doesn't really contain the source. The answer may be to check out ftp.cs.orst.edu instead. It has several versions of Archie on it. Some of them at least claim to be the source. Several of them are more recent versions than 2.05a. The trick is, they are scattered around in different directories on ftp.cs.orst.edu. The ones to most likely be of interest are: in pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info: 329 Jun 18 11:52 Archie_215.README 492440 Jun 18 11:56 Archie_215.tar.gz in pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/sources: 610491 Apr 18 01:51 Archie_211_src.tar.gz 332 Apr 18 09:52 Archie_211.README Note that the sources seem to be for an older version than the latest binaries are... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: sunil@linus.smcm.edu (Sunil Punnoose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Adobe Fonts, Where can I get 'em? Date: 30 Jul 1994 13:27:09 GMT Organization: INTERACTIVE Publications, Inc. Message-ID: <31dkfd$9v3@umd5.umd.edu> Where can I get ADOBE fonts for the NeXT, who is the current reseller? Thanks! -- Sunil Punnoose INTERACTIVE PUBLICATIONS sunil@oyster.smcm.edu soon, so we are looking for vendors who do quality work..... Thanks! -- Sunil Punnoose INTERACTIVE PUBLICATIONS sunil@oyster.smcm.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: "DeSLIPpifying" a NeXTstation Date: 30 Jul 1994 15:22:07 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <31dr6v$6b@news.iastate.edu> Anyone gone through the "deSLIPpification" process? If so your help is needed: For the next couple of months I will be needing to bring my at home NeXTstation --- which uses Louis' wonderful SLIP package --- into the office, where I will boot it up on the net. I got the local net cops to give me an alternate name and IP# (given the upcoming shortage you can't have too many :) and thought "deSLIPpification" would be pretty easy. In fact, I was going to write a shell script to automate the process. I made a copy of hostconfig, hostconfig.dirac, and put in the alternate name, IP#, netmask, etc. I made an alternate copy of rc.local called rc.local.noslip in which I commented out the line that launches the slip process. Then I just swapped the new files for hte old and rebooted. The boot process shows that the new hostname "dirac" and the new IP# are set just fine, but when it comes time to add the default route I get "network not available". There is no gateway in the routing tables, and when I try to add it by hand I again get "network not avaialable". So.... is there some step I've missed (Obviously eh?) Any help on this is *really* appreciated, as I need to get it implemented REAL SOON NOW. Thanks in advance ---- Tom -- =========================================================================== Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: BLACK DRIVE ENCLOSURES FOR SALE Message-ID: <CtrFEt.F6v@ucdavis.edu> Summary: Disk Drive Enclosures Sender: David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 15:37:41 GMT I have twelve (12) Black Tecor Full Height Drive enclosures left. These enclosures are sealed bay - no opticals or tape unless you wish to customize them yourself. Each Enclosure will hold 2 Full Height Hard Drives. Each Enclosure has one 80 watt Power Supply, Fan, Brackets for 2 FH HD's or 2 HH HD's, Black Power Cord and pass through SCSI Internal Connectors for 2 HD's. ***I have NO SCSI ID's for these last 12 enclosures.**** These enclosures have a very beefy power supply which runs extremely cool. This is due to a very powerfull fan, untaxed power supplies and well designed venting. I have run one of these with 2 supplies all day and the supplies and drive were cool to the touch. Dimensions 12" by 12" by 4" . This is quite trim compared to a standard FH Enclosure which measures 12" by 10" by 5" and will hold only 1 (ONE) FH drive. Three stack exactly to a NeXT Cube. These were designed to stack under or atop a NeXT Cube cleanly. *************** PRICE ******************** $40 + ship + COD ********************************************** Those of you who have already placed an order, please be patient as I have the SCSI ID wiring on order. David Bradford
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Adobe Fonts, Where can I get 'em? Date: 30 Jul 1994 16:31:01 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <31dv85$83g@news.tamu.edu> References: <31dkfd$9v3@umd5.umd.edu> In article <31dkfd$9v3@umd5.umd.edu>, Sunil Punnoose <sunil@linus.smcm.edu> wrote: > >Where can I get ADOBE fonts for the NeXT, who is the current reseller? Contact Trilithon Software: info@trilithon.com 415-325-0767 (phone) 415-325-0768 (fax) Two Ohlone Portola Valley, CA 94028 Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Hard Disk Purchase Date: 30 Jul 1994 10:00:18 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <31e0v2$rmo@spock.dis.cccd.edu> References: <316815INN583@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <CtMEyy.DnE@txnews.amd.com> My Dec drive runs a little hot plus the internal drives on a station sit directly on the motherboard. Therefore, mine is mounted externally. maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Unable to connect between two hi-speed modems Message-ID: <CtrL96.x6@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <31bd8a$24n@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 17:43:53 GMT Did you try setting parity? I think the switch in /etc/gettytab should be zp:p8: for your login entry. Check with the gettytab man-page. I seem to remember not all combinations make sense nor dod they work. Good luck, Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: jcd@aladdin.aero.org (John C Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Quix Email??? Date: 29 Jul 1994 14:56:45 GMT Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA Message-ID: <31b5bd$qc7@news.aero.org> Does anyone know the address for Quix(makers of Daydream)? Thanks John Davis jcd@aladdin.aero.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: The Fatted Calf CD Message-ID: <1994Aug1.070003.16336@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <31d39n$1ip@eirah.ping.de> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 07:00:03 GMT torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) writes: >I want to buy "The Fatted Calf CD" from germany and I need to >know the prices incl. shipping and the conditions. >Does anybody know or can mail me the e-mail addresses of >Alembic Systems International or Dancing Bear Enterprises? Pleas POST it. I also need it and I got know answer when I mailed Fatted Calf themselves. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: stopping boot process Message-ID: <1994Aug1.094221.14233@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. References: <31gfrt$plt@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 09:42:21 GMT In article <31gfrt$plt@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) writes: > > I need to start up NEXTSTEP on my Intel machine in single-user mode, > and therefore need to interrupt its usual startup sequence. The docu- > mentation (file 15_Trouble.rtfd in the NeXT SysAdmin bookshelf) states > that I should press Command-~ > immediately after the message "Testing System" is replaced by > "Loading from Disk". However, it seems to me, this documentation refers > to a NeXT computer, since on my Intel box I don't get these messages. > I get a "Checking Disk" message, then a "Starting up" message, and so on. > So, the first question is : What's the equivalent of Command-~ under > NSfIP, and the second one is : When do I stop the boot process ? > > Thanks, Greg. > > > ************************************************************************** **** > * Gregory Baratoff e-mail : baratoff@cfar.umd.edu * > * Center for Automation Research * > * University of Maryland * > * College Park, MD 20742 * > ************************************************************************** **** > At the "boot:" prompt type for scsi disk sd()mach_kernel -s for ide hd()mach_kernel -s Hope that helps --FAbien --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: amon@spock.gpl.com (Dale Amon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Date: 1 Aug 1994 11:39:44 GMT Organization: Genesis Project Ltd, Belfast, Northern Ireland Message-ID: <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> I've been trying for nearly 8 weeks to get in touch with David Spitzler at NeXT at the "advertised" email address. I've sent email repeatedly and have had no reply whatever. Does any one know if the address David_Spitzler@next.com is real or is it attached directly to a bit shredder? -- ======================================================================= Beware of statists The Only Libertarian Anarchist in bearing clipper chips. Northern Ireland Dale Amon <amon@spock.gpl.com> or Dale Amon <amon@cs.qub.ac.uk> URL: http://www.gpl.net/mmsg/amon.html =======================================================================
From: ccwf@hegel.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tcsh trouble Date: 1 Aug 1994 12:59:08 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <31iris$pkd@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <giCwkby00iUx01FaoA@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <giCwkby00iUx01FaoA@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Edit /etc/shells (with emacs or vi) and add /bin/tcsh. Admittedly, this is a simple task (it could even be done using cat), but I generally find emacs unusable in single-user mode. -ccwf
From: fletcher@nova.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FrameMaker current release Date: 1 Aug 1994 09:06:27 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland University College Message-ID: <31is0j$8ta@nova.umd.edu> References: <29JUL199410585372@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> In article <29JUL199410585372@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>, MCCOLLAM, DON <citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> wrote: >Hi. I've seen a few references to Frame[Maker] 3.2. I'm currently running >FrameMaker 3.0.1. I thought this was the lastest release of FM for black >(i.e. NeXT) hardware. Is this no longer the case? what is the latest release? >Where does one get upgrades these days? (I remember seeing a post a while >back about some software house working on a new release of FM instead of Frame >Tech. itself. ???) >Please respond to mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu >Don >P.S. If there is a newer release, how come I'm not on the announce list? I believe 3.0.1 is the current NEXTSTEP release for black. Frame is making an Intel release -- it will be a 3.x. The current version of Frame on all other platforms is 4.x. These versions are *not* backward compatiable (ie, you cannot load a doc created with 4.x into a 3.x FrameMaker--the other way is fine.) Frame will *not* release a 4.x version for NS. It will pick up at the 5.x level next year--I'm not sure if this will be FAT, or just an Intel release (I think FAT, but haven't confirmed.) IF any of this is incorrect, please let me know--I think it is fairly accurate, given the number of Frame reps I have talked to. Charlie (a Frame user) -- NeXTMail to: | ...to confer, converse, and charlie@technosci.com | otherwise hobnob with my | brother wizards.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tcsh trouble Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 11:19:26 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0iDF9yK00Uh7E2w54_@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <31iris$pkd@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 1-Aug-94 Re: tcsh trouble by Charles Fu@hegel.klab.ca > In article <giCwkby00iUx01FaoA@andrew.cmu.edu>, > Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: > >Edit /etc/shells (with emacs or vi) and add /bin/tcsh. > > Admittedly, this is a simple task (it could even be done using cat), Actually, I did consider mentioning 'cat', but I decided that would be excessive. :-) > but I generally find emacs unusable in single-user mode. Interesting....why? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: moose@svcdudes.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The Fatted Calf CD Date: 1 Aug 1994 17:37:36 GMT Organization: Software Ventures Corp. Distribution: na Message-ID: <31jbt0$273@news.svcdudes.com> References: <1994Aug1.070003.16336@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> In article <1994Aug1.070003.16336@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes: > torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) writes: > > > >I want to buy "The Fatted Calf CD" from germany and I need to > >know the prices incl. shipping and the conditions. > >Does anybody know or can mail me the e-mail addresses of > >Alembic Systems International or Dancing Bear Enterprises? Alembics number is 1-800-452-7608. This is a fun line so I can post a simple answer to a simple question. This is another fun line giving me more added text than copied text. -- Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com Programmer | Macintosh and NeXT programmer Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
From: moose@svcdudes.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The Fatted Calf CD Date: 1 Aug 1994 17:37:45 GMT Organization: Software Ventures Corp. Distribution: na Message-ID: <31jbta$274@news.svcdudes.com> References: <1994Aug1.070003.16336@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> > >I want to buy "The Fatted Calf CD" from germany and I need to > >know the prices incl. shipping and the conditions. > >Does anybody know or can mail me the e-mail addresses of > >Alembic Systems International or Dancing Bear Enterprises? Alembics number is 1-800-452-7608. This is a fun line so I can post a simple answer to a simple question. This is another fun line giving me more added text than copied text. -- Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com Programmer | Macintosh and NeXT programmer Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
From: moose@svcdudes.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The Fatted Calf CD Date: 1 Aug 1994 17:38:14 GMT Organization: Software Ventures Corp. Distribution: na Message-ID: <31jbu6$275@news.svcdudes.com> References: <1994Aug1.070003.16336@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> > >I want to buy "The Fatted Calf CD" from germany and I need to > >know the prices incl. shipping and the conditions. > >Does anybody know or can mail me the e-mail addresses of > >Alembic Systems International or Dancing Bear Enterprises? Alembics number is 1-800-452-7608. This is a fun line so I can post a simple answer to a simple question. This is another fun line giving me more added text than copied text. -- Michael Rutman | moose@svcdudes.com Programmer | Macintosh and NeXT programmer Software Ventures | maker of MicroPhone Pro #include <std.disclaimer> | really offensive political statement
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: desrobd@il.us.swissbank.com (David DesRobert) Subject: Inverting text display (to white text w/ black back) Message-ID: <1994Aug1.175304.19546@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 17:53:04 GMT Does anyone know of a way to change the defaults of the NeXTstep system so that the text of applications like Terminal and Mail will appear white with a black background instead of the reverse? I would really appreciate it. I am having trouble reading off the screen for long periods of time and am willing to try anything to remedy this. Thanks desrobd@il.us.swissbank.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: Incredulous - PC Mouse III doesn't work Message-ID: <thompsonCtvCFs.C8x@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Summary: trackball kensington expert mouse 4.0 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories References: <CtBz21.2xs@ucdavis.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 18:23:52 GMT Is anyone using a Kensington Expert Mouse 4.0 (trackball) with NS/Intel? I tried connecting it to an Intel GX on the PS/2 mouse port, and it works, but it has very choppy tracking and jumps around (backwards) if you move it even slightly too fast. I've tried changing the resolution in Configure.app and the mouse speed in Preferences.app, and even ran Kensington's EBASICS program to see if there was something I could set in the mouse, but none of these factors changed the lack of smoothness from the trackball. Any help is appreciated. Eric -- Eric Thompson eric@saperstein.com (NeXTmail ok) Database Administrator thompson@netcom.com Saperstein, Mayeda & Goldstein
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cmdr. Danny Stevenson please read Date: 1 Aug 1994 19:37:32 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <31jits$o3v@news.duke.edu> I don't have your e-mail address anymore. Please e-mail me right away--I have an important message to pass to you. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Message-ID: <CtvHnA.n56@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 20:16:20 GMT In article <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> amon@spock.gpl.com (Dale Amon) writes: > I've been trying for nearly 8 weeks to get in touch with David > Spitzler at NeXT at the "advertised" email address. I've sent > email repeatedly and have had no reply whatever. Does any > one know if the address > > David_Spitzler@next.com > > is real or is it attached directly to a bit shredder? I heard him give a talk at NeXT once. -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: Adobe Fonts, Where can I get 'em? Message-ID: <1994Aug1.193918.10117@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <31dkfd$9v3@umd5.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 19:39:18 GMT In article <31dkfd$9v3@umd5.umd.edu> sunil@linus.smcm.edu (Sunil Punnoose) writes: * Where can I get ADOBE fonts for the NeXT, * who is the current reseller? We -- Trilithon Software -- are an authorised re-seller of Adobe fonts for NEXTSTEP. Write To: Trilithon Software, 3000 Alpine Road, Portola Valley, California 94028. Telephone: (415) 851-7901 FAX: (415) 851-7902 E-mail: info@trilithon.com ........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wright@encmail.encompass.com (Jeff Wright) Subject: Re: POSIX and NS Message-ID: <1994Aug1.164158.29989@glv.cen.encompass.com> Sender: usenet@glv.cen.encompass.com Organization: Encompass References: <UiBkbk600iV8I8iUUy@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 16:41:58 GMT > NEXTSTEP 3.2 is supposedly POSIX 1003.1 compliant. POSIX compliance > implies a number of things about the system calls that are available, it > mandates the existence of certain header files, and is supposed to make > life easier for programmers porting software between different systems. One tip that seems "sparsely" documented...to "enable" posix, compile with option -posix. --jeff wright wright@encmail.encompass.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Message-ID: <1994Aug2.005457.5029@millennium.com> Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 00:54:57 GMT In article <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net>, Dale Amon writes: > I've been trying for nearly 8 weeks to get in touch with David > Spitzler at NeXT at the "advertised" email address. I've sent > email repeatedly and have had no reply whatever. Does any > one know if the address > > David_Spitzler@next.com > > is real or is it attached directly to a bit shredder? > Yes. __jayson
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new version of Xox and a new game almost Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:37:39 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <31k814$pfm@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3189et$q6@rosie.next.com> sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper) writes: > Hola compadres! > > I just put a new version of Xox on the cs.orst.edu ftp site; it's > only slightly changed with a couple of small bug fixes, but > Xoxeroids afficinados will notice a few level changes. > I also submitted source and binary to a skeletal version of the > Defender arcade game. It's close enough that anyone that ever > wanted to write this game will be stoked because most of the work > is done, but skeletal enough that anyone that actually wants to > play defender will be disappointed. There's another XoX game module that someone uploaded to ftp.cs.orst.edu, called KaBLAM. It's not too bad, once you figure out one critical bit of info. To get the game going (or to move between levels, once you have it going) you need to hit the space bar. Otherwise it just sits in demo mode. There's also the Shoot XoX module, that Erik Kay uploaded. I didn't think to check if any of the other files in the games section of ftp.cs.orst.edu were XoX modules. Anyone else writing modules for XoX? I'm afraid that all the games I'm the most interested in are probably non-trivial to write. Something like Tempest or 'Oids (from the Mac) would be the kinds of games that I'm used to wasting hours playing... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: August 14 is Coming Soon! Date: 2 Aug 1994 02:42:10 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <31kbq3$2dk@news1.digex.net> The expiration of the PNI 1.9 keystring is fast approaching--does anyone know when a new version will be available, or how to use the 'keystring.SLIPONLY' which says it has no expiration (but I have no clue how to install)? Chris ------------- Home of 'Clubside', the only weekly obscenity-filled rag on the face of the Earth. Free most everywhere (and FTPable soon!). Write us at 'editor@clubside.digex.net' for more info. We love NeXT-Mail, oh-e-oh. ------------- "Mrs. Crane, I'm looking at you... you wore green so you could hide." -- Carl, 'Caddyshack'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fabien@free.fdn.org Subject: test Message-ID: <1994Aug1.230707.16048@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 23:07:07 GMT Please ignore
From: rhayden@next.com (Ronald Hayden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:56:24 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <31k948$7d@rosie.next.com> References: <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> In article <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> amon@spock.gpl.com (Dale Amon) writes: > David_Spitzler@next.com > > is real or is it attached directly to a bit shredder? > > It's real. He's just a busy guy. -- -- Ronald Hayden rhayden@next.com Manager of Technical Publications, NeXT
From: rhayden@next.com (Ronald Hayden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:56:36 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <31k94k$7e@rosie.next.com> References: <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> In article <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> amon@spock.gpl.com (Dale Amon) writes: > David_Spitzler@next.com > > is real or is it attached directly to a bit shredder? It's real. He's just a busy guy. -- -- Ronald Hayden rhayden@next.com Manager of Technical Publications, NeXT
From: rhayden@next.com (Ronald Hayden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:56:47 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <31k94v$7f@rosie.next.com> References: <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> In article <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> amon@spock.gpl.com (Dale Amon) writes: > David_Spitzler@next.com > is real or is it attached directly to a bit shredder? It's real. He's just a busy guy. -- -- Ronald Hayden rhayden@next.com Manager of Technical Publications, NeXT
From: rhayden@next.com (Ronald Hayden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:57:15 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <31k95r$7g@rosie.next.com> References: <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> In article <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> amon@spock.gpl.com (Dale Amon) writes: > David_Spitzler@next.com > is real or is it attached directly to a bit shredder? It's real -- he's just a busy guy. -- -- Ronald Hayden rhayden@next.com Manager of Technical Publications, NeXT
From: Rick.Reynolds@3do.com (Rick Reynolds) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: BLACK DRIVE ENCLOSURES FOR SALE Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:33:02 GMT Organization: The 3DO Company Sender: rreynold@blackknight.3do.com Message-ID: <31k7oe$mf4@badger.3do.com> References: <CtrFEt.F6v@ucdavis.edu> In article <CtrFEt.F6v@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) writes: > > I have twelve (12) Black Tecor Full Height Drive enclosures left. > I have one of these enclosures and they are absolutely great. Rick Reynolds The 3DO Company *Opinions expressed are not necessarily the opinions of my employer.*
From: ccwf@hegel.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tcsh trouble Date: 2 Aug 1994 04:35:35 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <31kien$om2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <0iDF9yK00Uh7E2w54_@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <0iDF9yK00Uh7E2w54_@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Actually, I did consider mentioning 'cat', but I decided that would be >excessive. :-) I wrote: >> but I generally find emacs unusable in single-user mode. >Interesting....why? It's been a while since I've used it. As I recall, it, like vi in full screen mode, was somewhat usable for short tasks. Eventually, they would run into a problem with the limited terminal capabilities or the description of them in termcap in single-user mode and mangle the screen. The problem is more severe on white hardware. Commenting out the bs capability in termcap helps somewhat on white hardware. As for tcsh, has any one else run into the race condition problem with pipes? (Symptom: subshell just hangs. Must be killed from another window.) Does anyone have a patch? -ccwf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,gnu.misc.discuss From: ajones@math.toronto.edu (Albin L. Jones) Subject: Free OpenStep implementation? Message-ID: <1994Aug2.041327.13669@math.toronto.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Summary: looking for an organized group thinking about a Free OpenStep Keywords: free OpenStep Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto Date: Tue, 2 Aug 94 04:13:27 GMT I vaguely remember that there is a group looking at building "GNUStep" (for lack of a better term)... ...Is my memory incorrect? If not, can somebody point me (and anyone else who might want to be pointed) to the right place? Regards, Albin. -- Albin L. Jones Two gin-scented tears trickled down Department of Mathematics the sides of his nose. University of Toronto But it was all right, the
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: stopping boot process Message-ID: <Ctw669.G1K@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <31gfrt$plt@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <1994Aug1.094221.14233@free.fdn.org> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 05:06:08 GMT Fabien Roy (fabien@free.fdn.org) wrote: : > I need to start up NEXTSTEP on my Intel machine in single-user mode, : > and therefore need to interrupt its usual startup sequence. : At the "boot:" prompt type : for scsi disk : sd()mach_kernel -s : for ide : hd()mach_kernel -s You can actually skip the *d()mach_kernel part if you aren't overriding the standard boot device. At the "boot:" prompt, just type "-s". --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Message-ID: <1994Aug2.061208.19269@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <Ctp5wu.Kzt@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 06:12:08 GMT In article <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> ivo@hasc.ca writes: >>In article <Ctp5wu.Kzt@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> >>brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) writes: >>> In <318pde$a6g@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> >>flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: >>> >>> >I think the Workspace Finder panel is really an annoyance. >>> Instead of providing a shelf there should rather be some find options, >>like >>> filetype, regular expressions, modification date.... >> >>Yes, the Workspace finder is so annoying to use, it reminds me of >>something from Windows. Speaking of which, it would be nice if the file >>finder would select the files it finds in Workspace Manager. Then I could >>do "cmd-f *~ cmd-r" >> YES!! I tried to do this once with the WorkSpace's finder and when I discovered it couldn't do it, I never typed cmd-f in WorkSpace on purpose again... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Message-ID: <1994Aug2.081536.7627@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 08:15:36 GMT In article <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> ivo@hasc.ca writes: ~> In article <Ctp5wu.Kzt@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> ~> brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) writes: ~> > In <318pde$a6g@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> ~> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: ~> > ~> > >I think the Workspace Finder panel is really an annoyance. ~> > Instead of providing a shelf there should rather be some find ~> > options, like filetype, regular expressions, modification date.... I gave up using it long ago. When I want to "find" a file, I use the Unix find command under Terminal.app and open -a Workspace or open -a WM. Both work the same on directories. The former opens files with the default tool, rather than positioning the browser (or opening a new one) and the latter incurs the overhead of opening the Workspace Inspector, but positions a browser. Unfortunately, I get an occasional alert panel when quite a number of matching files are found... Workspace Internal error 1103 occured Continue (at your own risk)? In response to the commandline... find / -name folder.tiff -exec open -a WM {} \; ~> Yes, the Workspace finder is so annoying to use, it reminds me of ~> something from Windows. Speaking of which, it would be nice if the ~> file finder would select the files it finds in Workspace Manager. With the copy/link/move WM tools pretty much clones of cp, ln, mv, it would be nice if find indeed was a GUI front-end to /usr/bin/find, with added condecensions to the GUI nature of: Open a new browser for each Find sequentially and a "NeXT file" button to advance down the list of those found... OR, perhaps better yet... the functinality of a Workspace browser but with full paths for the results of the find in each entry. The single click of a file in this browser not already selected would display a draggable icon for the file. A single click of the already-selected file would position the main (or front) Workspace browser to that file, and a double-click of the file would open it using the default tool.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tcsh trouble Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 09:09:32 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <giDYKAS00iV181E9ZG@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <31kien$om2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 2-Aug-94 Re: tcsh trouble by Charles Fu@hegel.klab.ca [ problems with emacs in single-user mode ] > >Interesting....why? > > It's been a while since I've used it. As I recall, it, like vi in > full screen mode, was somewhat usable for short tasks. Eventually, > they would run into a problem with the limited terminal capabilities > or the description of them in termcap in single-user mode and mangle > the screen. The problem is more severe on white hardware. Commenting > out the bs capability in termcap helps somewhat on white hardware. Well, for infrequent problems, "C-l" will redraw the screen. However, emacs, vi, and every other full-screen program is vulnerable to a bad termcap entry. You can't really blame emacs for mis-drawing to the screen when your termcap tells it to do the wrong thing. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need you 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,gnu.misc.discuss From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: Free OpenStep implementation? In-Reply-To: ajones@math.toronto.edu's message of Tue, 2 Aug 94 04:13:27 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Aug2071858@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <1994Aug2.041327.13669@math.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 14:18:58 GMT It can't be called OpenStep unless it passes NeXT/Sun's test suite, so I doubt a free OpenStep will ever exist. However, there is a GNUStep mailing list. To join, send e-mail to gnustep-l-request@netcom.com -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Could not open /dev/np0! ???? Date: 2 Aug 1994 15:09:17 GMT Organization: UniNett Distribution: world Message-ID: <31lnit$3e4@ratatosk.uninett.no> What does "Could not open /dev/np0!" mean. It suddenly started truning up in the shell as I log in. - Barre -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barre Ludvigsen - Ostfold Regional College- N-1750 HALDEN - Norway ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vox:+4769185400/home+4769341922/direct+4769185577ext219fax:+4769185485 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- <A HREF="http://www.ludvigsen.dhhalden.no">Visit our home!</A>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? In-Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com's message of Wed, 27 Jul 1994 14:29:14 GMT Message-ID: <PFKEB.94Aug2081901@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <313h3f$7h7@zip.eecs.umich.edu> <CtLs8r.6qr@txnews.amd.com> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 15:19:01 GMT >>>>> On Wed, 27 Jul 1994 14:29:14 GMT, rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) said: > I think you're right. I don't think the HPUX kernel handles threads. That's right, no threads in HP/UX 9.x. However, they might be coming with HP/UX 10.0. -- Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: ernst@ernst.iaf.nl (Ernst Berends) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: simkit from doberman.com Message-ID: <775817561.0snx@ernst.iaf.nl> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 94 08:52:41 GMT -- Hello, Does anybody know if "the Simulation Kit" from Doberman Systems is still available from that company. I tried mailing them trough simkit@doberman.com, but the message bounced. Thanks for any reply, Ernst =========================================================================== Ernst J. Berends, Vestdijk 37m, 5611 CA Eindhoven. tel. (040) 432287. email: ernst@ernst.iaf.nl company: Promis bv, P.O.Box 854, 1180 AW Amstelveen (Nederland) tel. +31 20 6415491, fax: +31 20 6436160 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The goal of computerscience is to build something that will last at least until we've finished building it" -Pier- ===========================================================================
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: POSIX and NS Date: 2 Aug 1994 17:32:02 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <31lvui$r82@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1994Aug1.164158.29989@glv.cen.encompass.com> wright@encmail.encompass.com (Jeff Wright) writes: > > NEXTSTEP 3.2 is supposedly POSIX 1003.1 compliant. POSIX > > compliance implies a number of things about the system calls > > that are available, it mandates the existence of certain header > > files, and is supposed to make life easier for programmers > > porting software between different systems. > > One tip that seems "sparsely" documented...to "enable" posix, > compile with option -posix. and if you have a separate link-step, remember to specify -posix on that too. If you compile with -posix, but don't link with -posix, some pretty weird things can happen. Note: For linking, you'd want: cc -posix -o myprog file1.o file2.o file3.o etc.o not: cc -o myprog file1.o file2.o file3.o etc.o -lposix the second won't generate any errors linking, but it won't work right either... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX? Date: 2 Aug 1994 18:06:45 GMT Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa Message-ID: <31m1vl$seq@news.icaen.uiowa.edu> References: <313h3f$7h7@zip.eecs.umich.edu> <CtLs8r.6qr@txnews.amd.com> <PFKEB.94Aug2081901@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) writes: >>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jul 1994 14:29:14 GMT, rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) said: >> I think you're right. I don't think the HPUX kernel handles threads. > That's right, no threads in HP/UX 9.x. However, they might be >coming with HP/UX 10.0. HP will have POSIX threads (i.e. user-level threads) in 10.0, kernel level threads won't be coming until a 10.x minor release in the future. This is from the latest official statements of HP I've seen. 10.0 will probably be released around the end of the year or early next year, so kernel level threads are probably not going to be around for lt least another year, unfortunately. HP is concentrating their resources on getting DCE and DFS working well and very stable, probably a much better concentration of their resources given the benefits offered versus the benefits kernel threads would offer. -- Doug Siebert | I have a proof that everything I have stated above dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu | is true, but this .sig is too small to contain it.
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: simkit from doberman.com Date: 2 Aug 1994 18:59:24 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <31m52c$h7d@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <775817561.0snx@ernst.iaf.nl> I don't know why doberman.com mail is bouncing, but you should be able to get this product from Alembic Systems. .........................kris Kristopher Magnusson Z*nc Software Ernst Berends (ernst@ernst.iaf.nl) wrote: : -- : Hello, : Does anybody know if "the Simulation Kit" from Doberman Systems is still : available from that company. I tried mailing them trough : simkit@doberman.com, but the message bounced. : Thanks for any reply, : Ernst : =========================================================================== : Ernst J. Berends, Vestdijk 37m, 5611 CA Eindhoven. tel. (040) 432287. : email: ernst@ernst.iaf.nl : company: Promis bv, P.O.Box 854, 1180 AW Amstelveen (Nederland) : tel. +31 20 6415491, fax: +31 20 6436160 : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : "The goal of computerscience is to build something that will last at : least until we've finished building it" -Pier- : ===========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: schorse@nightlife.escape.de (Hansjoerg Oppermann) Subject: Re: The Fatted Calf CD Message-ID: <Ctw5vo.rC@nightlife.escape.de> Sender: schorse@nightlife.escape.de (Hansjoerg Oppermann) References: <31d39n$1ip@eirah.ping.de> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 04:59:48 GMT In article <31d39n$1ip@eirah.ping.de> torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) writes: > > Hi! > > I want to buy "The Fatted Calf CD" from germany and I need to > know the prices incl. shipping and the conditions. The CD cost $45 for overseas customers and will be send via postal mail. > Does anybody know or can mail me the e-mail addresses of > Alembic Systems International or Dancing Bear Enterprises? The e-mail address are: info@alembic.com > Many thanx in advance. > > Bye, Torsten bye - schorse -- Hansjoerg Oppermann, Rennelbergstr. 15, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany EMail: <schorse@nightlife.escape.de> -- Hansjoerg Oppermann, Rennelbergstr. 15, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany EMail: <schorse@nightlife.escape.de>
From: felix (Felix Rauch)@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 20:26:08 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <1994Aug2.202608.772@harka> References: <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> <1994Aug2.081536.7627@ToTSySSoft.com> Originator: HARKA@nice Bruce Gingery (bruce@TotSysSoft.com) wrote: > OR, perhaps better yet... > the functinality of a Workspace browser but with full paths for the > results of the find in each entry. The single click of a file in this > browser not already selected would display a draggable icon for the file. > A single click of the already-selected file would position the main (or > front) Workspace browser to that file, and a double-click of the file > would open it using the default tool. Sounds very nice to me. Did you mail that to NeXT? Maybe they'll improve it if there's enough demand... - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: Cmdr. Danny Stevenson please read Message-ID: <1994Aug2.211005.5834@millennium.com> Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <31jits$o3v@news.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 21:10:05 GMT In article <31jits$o3v@news.duke.edu>, Denise Blakeley writes: > I don't have your e-mail address anymore. Please e-mail me right away--I > have an important message to pass to you. > > Denise > -- > Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar I thought he turned out to be married. __jayson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: falke@iitmax.iit.edu (Falke Bruinsma) Subject: NS/I time and date... Message-ID: <1994Jul26.223943.5942@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: Tue, 26 Jul 94 22:39:43 GMT From what I understand NS/I and MS-DOS use the system time differently. NS/I assumes that the system time is greenwhich time and adds the difference of your time zone to get your local time, while MS-DOS simply saves the local time. Since I keep switching between MS-DOS and NS/I my time keeps getting screwed up and I was wondering if there is a way to prevent this from happening? Has anyone written a program to fix this problem? Thanks, -Falkey -- Falke Bruinsma | Falke_Bruinsma@iit.edu Illinois Institute of Technology | http://www.iit.edu/~sysfalke/me ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Programming is like sex, one mistake and you spend a lifetime supporting it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: falke@iitmax.iit.edu (Falke Bruinsma) Subject: NS/I time and date Message-ID: <1994Jul28.163936.26050@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 16:39:36 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/I time and date... Distribution: world Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago From what I understand NS/I and MS-DOS use the system time differently. NS/I assumes that the system time is greenwhich time and adds the difference of your time zone to get your local time, while MS-DOS simply saves the local time. Since I keep switching between MS-DOS and NS/I my time keeps getting screwed up and I was wondering if there is a way to prevent this from happening? Has anyone written a program to fix this problem? Thanks, -Falke -- Falke Bruinsma | Falke_Bruinsma@iit.edu Illinois Institute of Technology | http://www.iit.edu/~sysfalke/me ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Programming is like sex, one mistake and you spend a lifetime supporting it.
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cmdr. Danny Stevenson please read Date: 3 Aug 1994 00:47:40 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Message-ID: <31mpfc$q2m@news.duke.edu> References: <31jits$o3v@news.duke.edu> <1994Aug2.211005.5834@millennium.com> In article <1994Aug2.211005.5834@millennium.com>, <Jayson Adams> wrote: >In article <31jits$o3v@news.duke.edu>, Denise Blakeley writes: >> I don't have your e-mail address anymore. Please e-mail me right away--I >> have an important message to pass to you. >> >> Denise > >I thought he turned out to be married. > >__jayson Very funny, Jayson. :-P Actually I've given up on ever finding the Mystery Man. The only man who suggested it might be himself wouldn't give me any proof and I'm not interested in playing games so phooey on him! I really do have a message for Cmdr. Stevenson from someone off-net! Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scottc@agora.rdrop.com (Scott Christley) Subject: SLIP for intel NS3.1 Sender: news@agora.rdrop.com (USENET News) Organization: RainDrop Laboratories Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 02:01:15 GMT Message-ID: <CtxsA4.Fyr@agora.rdrop.com> Hi! Anybody know if there is a SLIP implementation for my Intel running NS3.1? I read a FAQ which indicated that versions are out there but not yet for Intel; it was dated Fall 93 so maybe something has changed. Looking at the FTP sites I could only find something that appeared to be for NS2.0 so I didnt bother getting it. The FAQ also mentioned Louis Mamakos but did not leave an email address; anybody know? sec
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Date: 3 Aug 1994 02:25:50 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <31mv7e$g4u@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <Ctp5wu.Kzt@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> In article <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com>, <ivo@hasc.ca> wrote: > >Yes, the Workspace finder is so annoying to use, it reminds me of >something from Windows. Speaking of which, it would be nice if the file >finder would select the files it finds in Workspace Manager. Then I could >do "cmd-f *~ cmd-r" > Of course someone around here would do a "cmd-f * cmd-r". Let the games begin! -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: nexel@jvnc.net Subject: Help! Respectfully Requesting Info re: Loading NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <nexel.7.00392AF0@jvnc.net> Sender: news@tigger.jvnc.net (Zee News Genie) Organization: JvNCnet Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 04:37:29 GMT First, I confess I'm not too swift with NeXTSTEP so if my query sounds naive, please forgive. I have loaded it successfully on several clones, so I'm not totally in the dark, but I'm still pretty dopey about it. Current problem has me baffled, NeXT doesn't know what to advise, and I'm hoping someone out there has some advice. System is a 486 Intel DX2-66 VESA clone with 32MB RAM and 256k cache. On-board floppy controller, ATI Mach32 2MB video, Logitech Bus Mouse, ProAudio Spectrum16, EtherExpress 16, and Adaptec 1542C. Hard drive is Fugitsu 1 gig or Seagate 2 gig. Using NEC Multispin to install. Problem is NeXTSTEP simply will not install. Usual scenario is that upon loading Adaptec drivers, it sends up: Kernal Trap Unexpected Kernal 8 EIP 149B7D Failed Instruction (2,8,0)... etc. Sometimes it begins loading from the CD-ROM and then hangs in the middle. What I can tell from documentation I've received from NeXT, Adaptec and the drive manufacturers, all the hardware settings are correct. I'm very frustrated and I'd truly appreciate some guidance. PL Douglas
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tcsh trouble Date: 2 Aug 1994 10:36:13 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <31l42d$14k@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <31f90l$i1f@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) writes: > Today, I downloaded tcsh and installed it on my computer. >I changed the startup shell in the UserManager application. >Unfortunately, I changed root's shell to tcsh, and only later >figured out that I should have edited /etc/shells by adding >/bin/tcsh as a valid shell. Now, I can't log in as root, and >I can't su to it either, since none of the other accounts >on my machine are in the wheel group. Boot your machine in single user mode (type -s at the boot prompt) and add the tcsh to your /etc/shells file by 'echo "/bin/tcsh" >>/etc/shells'. Then reboot. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: NS/I time and date... Message-ID: <bchin.775886507@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <1994Jul26.223943.5942@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 04:01:47 GMT falke@iitmax.iit.edu (Falke Bruinsma) writes: > From what I understand NS/I and MS-DOS use the system time differently. >NS/I assumes that the system time is greenwhich time and adds the difference >of your time zone to get your local time, while MS-DOS simply saves the >local time. > Since I keep switching between MS-DOS and NS/I my time keeps getting screwed >up and I was wondering if there is a way to prevent this from happening? Has >anyone written a program to fix this problem? One way around this if you are on a network and have time server is to run a time sync program under DOS & NEXTSTEP. We have a few PC's with Sun's PC-NFS and after they load TCP/IP they synchronize the time with a built in program in PC-NFS. When they then boot NEXTSTEP, they re-synchronize with NEXTSTEP's built in ntp. You may be able to get PD versions of TCP/IP & time synch (like xntp) to work. ..Bill -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: Help! Respectfully Requesting Info re: Loading NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <bchin.775886758@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <nexel.7.00392AF0@jvnc.net> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 04:05:58 GMT nexel@jvnc.net writes: >System is a 486 Intel DX2-66 VESA clone with 32MB RAM and 256k cache. >On-board floppy controller, ATI Mach32 2MB video, Logitech Bus Mouse, ProAudio >Spectrum16, EtherExpress 16, and Adaptec 1542C. Hard drive is Fugitsu 1 gig >or Seagate 2 gig. Using NEC Multispin to install. >Problem is NeXTSTEP simply will not install. Usual scenario is that upon >loading Adaptec drivers, it sends up: >Kernal Trap >Unexpected Kernal 8 EIP 149B7D >Failed Instruction (2,8,0)... etc. >Sometimes it begins loading from the CD-ROM and then hangs in the middle. First, make sure you are using NeXT's latest Adaptec driver; it's available via NeXTanswers. Second, the 1542C is a *very* finicky card. You might want to try switching SCSI cables (both internal and external) and checking termination to make sure things are right. The 1542CF has more relaxed timings. Of course, one more check through the BIOS settings won't hurt. Try lowering the DMA rate and turning off extra features. Also, make sure you have > 1 gig translation turned on to handle the bigger drives. Good luck! ..Bill -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Need to get up-to-date info on Mux serial driver Date: 3 Aug 1994 05:15:07 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu Message-ID: <31nn6r$dte@acmex.gatech.edu> I haven't downloaded a copy of the MUX driver since, probably, before april. I'm wondering if there's a newer version that fixes some of the problems I've been having: 1) My internal modem can go up to 57.6kbps, yet applications seem to think that they should be limited to 38.4kbps. I haven't been able to change this within the applications, so I assume it's something the driver is limiting (incorrectly). (I'm not talking about actual throughput, I'm talking about the settings for the maximum connection speed). 2) Even when I have my connections set for 38.4, if the connection goes quickly (I cat a file of more than 5 screens of dense text), the connection hangs. If I tell the application to exit (without closing the modem connection), and then restart it, the connection is fine. This particularly happens during large (greater than 3mb) file transfers. 3) I suspect this one is related to #2: anytime I try to get term to work, it hangs. I've tried everything that friends of mine using linux have done to make term work with our local servers, and things that other nextstep term users suggested. Nothing worked. Term hangs shortly after the first term utility is run, and doesn't recover. I'd really like to be able to use my internal modem, especially for SLIP/PPP or term. However, these problems (which I assume are caused bye the MUX driver) keep me from doing so. Since so much of my time is spent dialed out to remote sites, I find that inspite of how much I prefer nextstep, I end up using DOS/Windows a lot, since it's actually faster and more reliable. If anyone, especially the author, has any comments, I would greatly appreciate it. John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: harryt@max.tiac.net (Harry D Tirrell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Quix Email??? Date: 3 Aug 1994 15:37:42 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <31odk6$2f5@sundog.tiac.net> References: <31b5bd$qc7@news.aero.org> I beleive their mail address is: QUIX Computerware AG Luzernerstr.10 6030 Ebikon Switzerland. At least this was what was on their warranty return card. harry John C Davis (jcd@aladdin.aero.org) wrote: : Does anyone know the address for Quix(makers of Daydream)? : Thanks : John Davis : jcd@aladdin.aero.org
From: halstej@mary.iia.org (Jerry Halstead) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: ADPCM Sound files ? Date: 3 Aug 1994 18:16:07 -0400 Organization: International Internet Association. Message-ID: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> Summary: searching for ADPCM compressed files I've been playing with some code I found on the net that performs audio compression, but I'm having difficulty locating any sound files that utilize these compression methods. The compressions are CCITT ADPCM. I'm starting to think that there are a number of implementations and "standards". HereÕs a short piece from one of the source files: "The files in this directory comprise ANSI-C language reference implementations of the CCITT (International Telegraph and Telephone Consultative Committee) G.711, G.721 and G.723 voice compressions." I also found reference to an IBM ADPCM in the specs for .wav files, but haven't found any of those files either nor documentation for the compression itself (which would be nice). Does anyone have experience working with this type of code and finding test files to verify it with? Or just general pointers to newsgroups/FTP sites that deal with compression and/or have compressed audio files. Thanks. halstej@iia.org
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/I time and date... Date: 3 Aug 1994 22:00:47 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <31p42g$k7u@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <1994Jul26.223943.5942@iitmax.iit.edu> Falke Bruinsma (falke@iitmax.iit.edu) wrote: : From what I understand NS/I and MS-DOS use the system time differently. : NS/I assumes that the system time is greenwhich time and adds the difference : of your time zone to get your local time, while MS-DOS simply saves the : local time. If that is the case... if I only care about time under DOS (my wife uses DOS) and I don't want to keep fixing the time after I use NS/I how do I set my time zone to greenwhich time?
From: tpg@trillian.mr.net (Terry Gliedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: snd -> au conversion Date: 4 Aug 1994 00:04:31 GMT Organization: Software Toolsmiths: for your Un*x, C/C++, Motif needs Distribution: world Message-ID: <31pbag$m3e@cedar.mr.net> I'd like to convert some NeXT .snd files to work on other platforms using the SUN au format. If I ftp some of my .snd files to Linux, for example, they seem to be gibberish. I recall seeing something about au -> snd format (actually, that does not seem necessary) but NeXT files seem to need some sort of conversion. Thanks for your remarks. -- =================================================================== Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: Cmdr. Danny Stevenson please read Message-ID: <1994Aug4.012857.10312@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <31jits$o3v@news.duke.edu> <1994Aug2.211005.5834@millennium.com> <31mpfc$q2m@news.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 01:28:57 GMT In article <31mpfc$q2m@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > >I really do have a message for Cmdr. Stevenson from someone off-net! > And it's going to self-destruct in 30 seconds, so Cmdr. Steve better haul his tush. - db ha ha. -- God bless those pagans. -- Homer -- Quantis never crashed -- Raymond -- Quebec pour les Quebequois -- Quebec Separatists -- Germany for the Germans -- Hitler Youth -- She tried to sit on my lap when I was standing up -- Marlowe -- Makes me want to f*** the both of you. -- Losing net.jerk assuming that I'm a female
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Message-ID: <1994Aug4.013134.10994@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <Ctp5wu.Kzt@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> <31mv7e$g4u@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 01:31:34 GMT In article <31mv7e$g4u@news.acns.nwu.edu> j-weiss@nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: >In article <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com>, <ivo@hasc.ca> wrote: >> >>Then I could do "cmd-f *~ cmd-r" >> > >Of course someone around here would do a >"cmd-f * cmd-r". Let the games begin! > Jeez, you guys better take rm off the system in case someone does an "rm -rf /" or something. Or better yet, you should unplug their computers before they hurt themselves. - db -- God bless those pagans. -- Homer -- Quantis never crashed -- Raymond -- Quebec pour les Quebequois -- Quebec Separatists -- Germany for the Germans -- Hitler Youth -- She tried to sit on my lap when I was standing up -- Marlowe -- Makes me want to f*** the both of you. -- Losing net.jerk assuming that I'm a female
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki) Subject: HELP: Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x100bada during kernel boot Message-ID: <1994Aug4.020018.17965@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 02:00:18 GMT Hi everyone, Sorry for cross-posting, but this is my third enquiry regarding the above problem, so before I completely give up I wanted to make sure I exhaust all the possibilities. The problem is of intermittent nature, and I can not reproduce it when I want to, but it always hits at the least expected moment (by the virtue of Murphy's law). Sometimes during booting or resetting the computer (just after the kernel begins to load) the drive suddenly makes a quiet knocking sound and spins down (!), followed by the ROM Monitor displaying the above exception message. Yesterday I tried resetting four times, always with the same failure. Then I powered-off the machine and after 5 seconds powered it back on, which seemed to cure the problem. On other occasions the system dies on the first power-up. I have tried all I could think of in terms of troubleshooting (including reseating the chips, etc.), calls to NeXT and Bell Atlantic and local service centre, but so far I was unable to locate and/or eliminate the problem. I would greatly appreciate anyones suggestions as to what the source of the exception can be, before I pour another $1000 from my limited resources for the motherboard replacement. BTW, the system is a black 68040 non-turbo cube, Quantum ProDrive 425S (brand new), optical, internal floppy, ROM v66, NS3.2 dev. Thank you in advance. -- Piotr Twarecki, M.Eng. B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Free OpenStep implementation? Date: 4 Aug 1994 04:08:44 GMT Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA Message-ID: <31ppkcINNfbg@early-bird.think.com> References: <1994Aug2.041327.13669@math.toronto.edu> <PFKEB.94Aug2071858@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> In article <PFKEB.94Aug2071858@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu writes: > It can't be called OpenStep unless it passes NeXT/Sun's test suite, >so I doubt a free OpenStep will ever exist. I don't see how the first implies the second. Why wouldn't GNUStep be able to pass the test suite? -- Barry Margolin System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp. barmar@think.com {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Date: 4 Aug 1994 05:06:32 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <31pt0o$eef@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <Ctp5wu.Kzt@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> <31mv7e$g4u@news.acns.nwu.edu> <1994Aug4.013134.10994@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> In article <1994Aug4.013134.10994@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, Darcy BROCKBANK <samurai@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote: >In article <31mv7e$g4u@news.acns.nwu.edu> j-weiss@nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: >>In article <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com>, <ivo@hasc.ca> wrote: >>> >>>Then I could do "cmd-f *~ cmd-r" >>> >> >>Of course someone around here would do a >>"cmd-f * cmd-r". Let the games begin! >> > >Jeez, you guys better take rm off the system in case someone does >an "rm -rf /" or something. Or better yet, you should unplug their >computers before they hurt themselves. > Typically we alias 'rm' around here for neophytes. In the context of the current finder the -r (recursive directory search) is default, combined with the format of >>>Then I could do "cmd-f *~ cmd-r" implies that missing the '~' is dangerous. Given how hard it is to even find working '~' keys around here, disaster becomes an easily won lottery. My current religion requires that weapons of mass destruction similiar to above (and the original rm command) never be placed in the hands of the unwashed. If I do give out such weapons, they must be made sufficiently complex enough to avoid being accidently fired by an old noisey modem connection. Generally I like the idea of a better WS finder, but I think an additional confirmation is in order for large deletes. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: fletcher@nova.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Multi-sessions Photo CD Date: 4 Aug 1994 09:07:00 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland University College Message-ID: <31qp5k$bpu@nova.umd.edu> Keywords: Photo CD I am seeking information about "multi-session" (Kodak) Photo-CD support under NEXTSTEP. I checked the help under the PhotoAlbum.app which states that this support is not in the 3.1 release--is it now in 3.2, or has NeXT posted such a driver (for the CD drive) to the archives? Can this work with the NeXT CD-ROM drive, or do you need a special type of drive to read a "multi-session" CD? If this support exist, is there an app that uses it? Thanks in advance for the help. Charlie -- NeXTMail to: | ...to confer, converse, and charlie@technosci.com | otherwise hobnob with my | brother wizards.
From: gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pinnacle Research Inc. contact wanted Message-ID: <1994Aug4.153305.617@dbulm1.uucp> Date: 4 Aug 94 15:33:05 +0100 Keywords: Pinnacle, VWall Distribution: world Organization: Daimler-Benz, Forschungszentrum Ulm Hi, do anybody know, what the hell is going on with Pinnacle? We have bought a program VWall from them and were running into problems during installation. But, we can't contact them by no way (neither fax, nor phone, nor email). The phone number they provide is no longer in service. Did they went bankrupt??? So, thanks in advance for any hint. These are my data of Pinnacle Pinnacle Research, Inc. 602-327-8949 /* no longer in service */ 602-299-9133 Fax /* valid number, but no reaction */ info@pri.com /* no reaction */ =============================================================================== Jochen Gloger, Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm, Institute of Information Technology, Department of Text Understanding Phone: +49 731 505 2353, Fax: +49 731 505 4113 Address: Wilhelm-Runge-Str.11, P.O. Box 23 60, 89013 Ulm, Germany Email: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM ===============================================================================
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to print when no WindowServer is running? Date: 29 Jul 1994 22:17:49 GMT Organization: - CyberDyne Systems - Distribution: World Message-ID: <31bv6d$9an@anduin.subculture> Keywords: print I had to disable the Window server (in 3.2 loginwindow.app tries to load the Audio_reloc and without Monitor this produces errors) but now i can't print anymore. Is there another way? - Urs -- Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com 8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake, Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake." ----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Quix Email??? Date: 31 Jul 1994 14:58:40 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: World Message-ID: <31ge70$jfi@nntp.crl.com> References: <CtsoqH.K6K@ucdavis.edu> In article <CtsoqH.K6K@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) writes: > I have used this e-mail address to no avail and even faxed these > > folks, called them, screamed out my back door etc.... No answer. > > I own a Quix Daydream and I think it is great (except that it > > hasn't run on an 030 yet - Quix claims it will but ...). > > You can try them at: quix@appelink.apple.com. > This is the address I have for them as well, and likewise, get no response. Sam -- Samuel M. Goldberger smg@orb.com Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-383-2919--voice
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Date: 4 Aug 1994 20:08:08 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <31rhr8$4ph@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> ivo@hasc.ca writes > Yes, the Workspace finder is so annoying to use, it reminds me of > something from Windows. Speaking of which, it would be nice if the file > finder would select the files it finds in Workspace Manager. Then I could > do "cmd-f *~ cmd-r" Well, it does give you a hand with a deck of cards icon for the files it finds. Then you can drag that icon to your workspace shelf and click on it! So, it can do what you want. You're right, though. The Finder should be more like an inspector in that it acts upon and modifies the selection in the current File Viewer. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kennedy@b0ru01.fnal.gov (Robert Daniel Kennedy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NextStep 3.3 when? Date: 4 Aug 1994 20:21:11 GMT Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <31rijn$pu5@fnnews.fnal.gov> Hello, Its been answered before, but I need to know now not then, so I do not have the answer at hand. Any update on when NextStep 3.3 (m68k) will be available for purchase? Thanks, Rob Kennedy Rutgers/CDF/FNAL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Message-ID: <1994Aug4.201502.7625@millennium.com> Keywords: info@farcast.com Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> <31k95r$7g@rosie.next.com> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 20:15:02 GMT In article <31k95r$7g@rosie.next.com>, Ronald Hayden writes: > In article <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> amon@spock.gpl.com (Dale Amon) > writes: > David_Spitzler@next.com > > is real or is it attached directly to a bit shredder? > > It's real -- he's just a busy guy. Are you sure? Rumor has it there's really an automaton attached to that address. __jayson P.S.: That's from a reliable source inside NeXT.
From: bisselt@marley.gb.swissbank.com (Timothy Bissell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: WANTED: list/overview of apps planned for HP NeXTStep. Date: 04 Aug 1994 12:07:35 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation Message-ID: <BISSELT.94Aug4130735@marley.gb.swissbank.com> References: <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no> <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com> To: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) In-reply-to: Greg_Anderson@afs.com's message of Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:16:21 GMT <Greg_Anderson@afs.com> writes: >Since I haven't complained all month, and it's getting near the end 8^), >I'll take this opportunity to climb on the soapbox and complain about the >lack of a 3.3 Developer release, which means that the only triple-FAT >compiler will be in the HP release........... >............ This was a short-sighted move, and I think it violates the >spirit of what FAT technology is supposed to represent. Whilst I agree with your sentiments, NeXT will be releasing the sources to their modified gcc/gas on the HP developer CD-ROM. Some public-hearted citizen could compile up these sources to produce three way compilers for i386 and m68k, and stick'em on an FTP site. this means that with a bit of fiddling developers could produce obese binaries even with 3.2 Developer systems. -- tim -- Work: bisselt@gb.swissbank.com | +44 71 711 2984 | Ducati 750SS Home: tim@ursidae.demon.co.uk | +44 480 451 022 | DoD#174
From: hoffman@camarones.ma.utexas.edu (James Allen Hoffman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Login Window with a Clock? Date: 5 Aug 1994 00:17:50 GMT Organization: University Of Texas Mathematics Message-ID: <31s0fe$38b@blancmange.ma.utexas.edu> I work in an office with three folks who use the same NeXT machine. We are not supposed to leave ourselves logged in when away from the tube. Any chance that someone out there has a login window that shows the time? (Did I mention we are all too cheap to buy a watch?) What'd be really nice is a login window that tells me I have new mail! (Dream On, Aerosmith.) -jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: shawn@monitor.com Subject: Re: NextStep 3.3 when? Message-ID: <Cu1AF0.15v@monitor.com> Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick) Organization: Monitor Company / IE References: <31rijn$pu5@fnnews.fnal.gov> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 23:25:48 GMT Q4'94 is the data I have from a non-offical source within NeXT. Robert Daniel Kennedy writes >Hello, > > Its been answered before, but I need to know now not then, so I do >not have the answer at hand. > > Any update on when NextStep 3.3 (m68k) will be available for purchase? > >Thanks, > >Rob Kennedy >Rutgers/CDF/FNAL -- Shawn Broderick Monitor Company / Information Engineering shawn@monitor.com (617) 252-2090
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: snd -> au conversion Message-ID: <Cu1M5C.1xx@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <31pbag$m3e@cedar.mr.net> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 03:39:11 GMT Terry Gliedt (tpg@trillian.mr.net) wrote: : I'd like to convert some NeXT .snd files to work on other platforms : using the SUN au format. If I ftp some of my .snd files to Linux, : for example, they seem to be gibberish. I recall seeing something : about au -> snd format (actually, that does not seem necessary) : but NeXT files seem to need some sort of conversion. .au files are missing header information that NeXT's .snd format has, as I recall. Get GISO.app to convert sound formats. It uses sox to do the conversion (included for you inside the GISO wrapper). --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Date: 5 Aug 1994 03:58:06 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <31sdce$ag@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Aug4.201502.7625@millennium.com> In article <1994Aug4.201502.7625@millennium.com> Jayson Adams writes: > [Re: David_Spitzler being real or not.] > > Are you sure? Rumor has it there's really an automaton attached to that > address. > > __jayson > > P.S.: That's from a reliable source inside NeXT. You mean like that ever posting "__jayson"? --Lennart P.S.: That's from a reliable source inside Millenium. P.P.S.: Why doesn't someone call Dave and find out? The number to NeXT is 415-366-0900. Ask to talk to Atomaton Spitzler. ;-)
From: labg2497@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Laura A. Bischoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problems with snd files playing on NeXT Date: 5 Aug 1994 05:54:18 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <31sk6a$bvr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Summary: Help! .snd files are not playing when sndplay executed. Keywords: soundfiles snd NeXT sndplay Hello, I have been having some problems with sound files on a Next machine. I am positive that the sound files are not corrupted, but occasionally they do not sound when a sndplay command is executed. It is completely random as to whether the snd file plays or not. I have monitored the system processes during the time period when the sndplay command is executing. The process list shows that the sndplay process is indeed executing, but no sound eminates from the speaker. The sndplay command executes for the duration of the sound file (as determined using the time commmand in conjunction with the sndplay command). This behavior is very random. I can play the same soundfile over and over again and sometimes no sound will come out of the speaker. Sometimes, it will not sound on the first execution and other times it will play a number of times before not sounding. As I am sure that my sound files are correct (they sound perfectly most of the time), I am wondering if there is some kind of bug or problem with the sndplay command. Has anyone else experienced this kind of sporatic behavior with the sndplay command? I should note that my sound files are about 440 Kilobytes, if that is of any importance. As I am somewhat of a novice with the sndplay function of the NeXT computers, any help and/or suggestions are welcomed! Thanks for your help. ----------------------------------- Laura B. (labg2497@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
From: nishimu@macro.co.jp (Tosh Nishimura) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compaq XE 560 Config Problems Message-ID: <NISHIMU.94Aug5143756@janis.macro.co.jp> Date: 5 Aug 94 05:37:56 GMT References: <dalCtq03G.Jvs@netcom.com> Sender: nishimu@macro.co.jp (Tosh Nishimura) Organization: Macro Engineering Co., Ltd. Taito-ku Tokyo, Japan. In-Reply-To: dal@netcom.com's message of 29 Jul 94 21:09:16 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Mime-Version: 1.0 >>>>> "Dana" == Dana Andre Letendre <dal@netcom.com> writes: In article <dalCtq03G.Jvs@netcom.com> dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre) writes: Dana> After trying to get NS 3.2 installed on my new Compaq Pentium, Dana> I've solved all but three problems I have Compaq XE466 and I also got problems what you got. Dana> 1. NS only recognizes 16mb of the 40mb of memory. Anyone says "Disable Shadow BIOS from CMOS setting". But there isn't. Dana> 2. I installed the new QVision driver (1.1) and no matter what Dana> screen size I set it at, it always is 640x480. (I have 2mb VRAM) I installed new QVision driver and I can use 800x600 by color and more by BW. Dana> 3. The Compaq Business Audio doesn't work. I have no idea what to set Dana> the DMA and IRQ at, or what port addresses I should be using. You may be able to use a driver for MS-SoundSystem. -- nishimu - NeXTMail Ready -
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: snd -> au conversion Date: 5 Aug 1994 10:39:42 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <31t4tf$701@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <31pbag$m3e@cedar.mr.net> <Cu1M5C.1xx@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <Cu1M5C.1xx@cunews.carleton.ca> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes: >.au files are missing header information that NeXT's .snd format has, as >I recall. False. Er, mostly false. .au files were headerless in SunOS 4.0.3C. Sun adopted NeXT's format immediately thereafter. [Note that certain encoding types are not portable (e.g. NeXT's ATC compression), and NeXT's bundled software doesn't handle _all_ the types listed in <sound/soundstruct.h>.] Use sndconvert on NEXTSTEP or raw2audio on SunOS (not shipped with Solaris) to convert any relics you may find. >Get GISO.app to convert sound formats. It uses sox to do the conversion >(included for you inside the GISO wrapper). The version of GISO on cs.orst.edu includes sox PL7. I'm using sox PL11 (which is over a year old), so I'd say it's time for GISO to be updated, no? -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: how to select keyboard mappings from Preferences Message-ID: <1994Aug5.121812.17131@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Keywords: keyboard next preferences Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 12:18:12 GMT Hi, In the help-file of the Keyboard application (BTW: we are speaking here NS 3.0) there is mentioned that with Preferences you can select a certain mapping -if stored in ~/Library/Keyboard- to be used as default. However I can't find this option in Preferences. What should I look for or is there another solution. What I want is to redefine shift-backspace to ^D. That way it will be possible in Edit to use the shift-backspace as a "real" delete key. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Date: 5 Aug 1994 14:53:40 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <31tjpk$ibp@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> <31rhr8$4ph@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan (telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu) wrote: : ivo@hasc.ca writes : > Yes, the Workspace finder is so annoying to use, it reminds me of : > something from Windows. Speaking of which, it would be nice if the file : > finder would select the files it finds in Workspace Manager. Then I could : > do "cmd-f *~ cmd-r" : Well, it does give you a hand with a deck of cards icon for the files it : finds. Then you can drag that icon to your workspace shelf and click on it! : So, it can do what you want. But there's another drawback I just came around (only that this time not the Finder panel is to blame for it !? ;-): Do a recursive search, and choose some files _that are spread across different directories_. You'll get a 'hand of cards' as you would expect, but: - It's not possible to place this hand of cards into the FileViewer shelf. This is what one should expect. FileViewer is not able to highlight selections across multiple directories, so he won't accept them as shelf item. - It's also not possible to move/copy this selection of files by drag'n'drop onto another folder, altough this would not hurt the above. For me this is a clear sign that this kind of finder is not more than a quick hack (sorry NeXT). Btw, it's no problem to drag this selection into a shell window and do the copy move from there ;-) Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul R. Tognato-Haddad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: (VWall) Re: Pinnacle Research Inc. contact wanted Date: 5 Aug 1994 14:35:29 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <31tinh$8m7@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> References: <1994Aug4.153305.617@dbulm1.uucp> Howdy, In article <1994Aug4.153305.617@dbulm1.uucp> gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger) writes: > Hi, > do anybody kno w, what the hell is going on with Pinnacle? We have bought > a program VWall from them and were running into problems during > installation. But, we can't contact them by no way (neither fax, nor > phone, nor email). The phone number they provide is no longer in service. Pinnacle is no longer involved with VWall. Any questions or requests for information regarding VWall should be sent directly to me at this address. Thanks, -- Paul (NeXTmail preferred) # Paul R. Tognato-Haddad (pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Message-ID: <1994Aug5.155558.5266@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <31mv7e$g4u@news.acns.nwu.edu> <1994Aug4.013134.10994@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <31pt0o$eef@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 15:55:58 GMT In article <31pt0o$eef@news.acns.nwu.edu> j-weiss@nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: >My current religion requires that weapons of mass destruction similiar to >above (and the original rm command) never be placed in the hands of the >unwashed. If I do give out such weapons, they must be made sufficiently >complex enough to avoid being accidently fired by an old noisey modem >connection. As I said, better unplug their computers then. > >Generally I like the idea of a better WS finder, but I think an additional >confirmation is in order for large deletes. As long as expert user's don't have to suffer for beginner's silliness. Applications that cater to beginners have useful lifespans of a few weeks. Applications that cater to experts have a useful lifespan equal to that of the expert. Beginners can become experts quite easily. If all our applications assume we're brain dead, then they become quite a pain to use. The best approach may be Improv's "OK Forever?" button. - db -- Clearly I remember picking on the boy; he seemed a harmless little f***. But we unleashed a lion; gnashed his teeth and bit the recess lady's breast. How can I forget. Then he hit me with a surprise left... -- Pearl Jam, "Jeremy" (Or, how we create monsters. It's our responsibility.)
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Date: 5 Aug 1994 08:16:51 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <31tl53$53d@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <1994Aug4.201502.7625@millennium.com> <31sdce$ag@rosie.next.com> Jayson Adams writes: > [Re: David_Spitzler being real or not.] > > Are you sure? Rumor has it there's really an automaton attached to that > address. > > __jayson Dave Spitzler was a guiding force behind the Frame port to NS/FIP. He banged on Frame for years, then found Omni, hooked us up, and made sure everyone had everything they needed to go ahead with the port. He's one of the prime examples of NeXT actually supporting its 3rd party vendors; his attitude was "NeXT will provide the necessary resources to make this port happen." Thus, I can say, with great assurance, that's he's secretly a robot, sent here from the Planet X to prepare humans for the invasion. I figured it out because he was doing his job just a little TOO well, if you get my
From: lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: can't install NS/FIP on a P5-90 Date: 5 Aug 1994 20:14:03 GMT Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany Message-ID: <31u6ib$pnl@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Hi, when I tried to install NS-FIP on my Plato P5-90 machine with a NCR53C810 SCSI controller card in one of the PCI slots, I got this message: Resetting SCSI Bus ... Copyright (c) 1994 Talus ... NCR53C810/820/825 SCSI Adapter device driver V 2.05 rev 087 Chip rev .01 NCR53C810: Resetting SCSI bus ... Registering sc0 sd0: IBM OEM 0662S12 2 23 Registering at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0 Registering sd0a sd0: No Valid Disk Label sd0: Device Block Size 512 byte sd0 Device Capacity 1003 MB sd1 SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 2.6a NCR53C810 ERROR: phase mismatch not during the data xfer! NCR DMA ERROR ISTAT 9, DSTAT 81 DCMD 1b DBC 1b000000, DSPS 0 NCR timeout occured (8 times, about every 5-10 sec) Registering: sd1a at Target 3 LUN 0 at sc0 Registering: sd1a NCR timeout occured sd1: wating for drive to come ready NCR timeout occured ad infinitum. The NCR card and driver are from Talus. The original black NeXT CD-ROM drive was connected to the controller. The HD is an IBM GB drive. The controller works fine under DOS and Windows, though I don't know, whether the CD-ROM would be recognized here. Can anybody help me? Thanks in advance, Lars -- Lars Konieczny lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how to select keyboard mappings from Preferences Date: 5 Aug 1994 19:53:20 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <31u5bg$12o@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Aug5.121812.17131@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> In article <1994Aug5.121812.17131@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes: ] In the help-file of the Keyboard application (BTW: we are speaking here ] NS 3.0) there is mentioned that with Preferences you can select a ] certain mapping -if stored in ~/Library/Keyboard- to be used as ] default. However I can't find this option in Preferences. What should ] I look for or is there another solution. It's "intuitively" located in the localization pref module (the one with the flags). Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Message-ID: <1994Aug5.185414.515@millennium.com> Keywords: info@farcast.com Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <1994Aug4.201502.7625@millennium.com> <31sdce$ag@rosie.next.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 18:54:14 GMT In article <31sdce$ag@rosie.next.com>, Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM writes: > In article <1994Aug4.201502.7625@millennium.com> Jayson Adams writes: > > [Re: David_Spitzler being real or not.] > > > > Are you sure? Rumor has it there's really an automaton attached to that > > address. > > > > __jayson > > > > P.S.: That's from a reliable source inside NeXT. > > You mean like that ever posting "__jayson"? > > --Lennart > > P.S.: That's from a reliable source inside Millenium. Hey, Lennart, what's your problem? Why doesn't jajS*#&YF.. jayson_post: Unexpected token sequence at 0x3425A...resetting Hey, Lennart, I've got an idea, if *FKkm3h\\\\\\\\\\\\\ jayson_post: Unexpected sequence at 0x3410A...resetting jayson_post: Illegal token match at 0x111AB0 Bus Error
From: npratt@xmission.com (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Date: 5 Aug 1994 15:31:55 -0600 Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900) Message-ID: <31ub4b$rbn@xmission.xmission.com> References: <1994Aug4.201502.7625@millennium.com> <31sdce$ag@rosie.next.com> <1994Aug5.185414.515@millennium.com> Keywords: info@farcast.com In article <1994Aug5.185414.515@millennium.com>, <Jayson Adams> wrote: > >Hey, Lennart, what's your problem? Why doesn't jajS*#&YF.. > >jayson_post: Unexpected token sequence at 0x3425A...resetting > >Hey, Lennart, I've got an idea, if *FKkm3h\\\\\\\\\\\\\ > >jayson_post: Unexpected sequence at 0x3410A...resetting >jayson_post: Illegal token match at 0x111AB0 >Bus Error > Was that a demonstration of NewsGrazer Pro's posting abilities??? :-) Nevin
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help! Respectfully Requesting Info re: Loading NeXTSTEP Date: 5 Aug 1994 19:15:40 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <17899.seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> To: nexel@jvnc.net On Wed, 3 Aug 1994 04:37:29 GMT, nexel@jvnc.net wrote: >First, I confess I'm not too swift with NeXTSTEP so if my query sounds naive, >please forgive. I have loaded it successfully on several clones, so I'm not >totally in the dark, but I'm still pretty dopey about it. Current problem >has me baffled, NeXT doesn't know what to advise, and I'm hoping someone out >there has some advice. > >System is a 486 Intel DX2-66 VESA clone with 32MB RAM and 256k cache. >On-board floppy controller, ATI Mach32 2MB video, Logitech Bus Mouse, ProAudio >Spectrum16, EtherExpress 16, and Adaptec 1542C. Hard drive is Fugitsu 1 gig >or Seagate 2 gig. Using NEC Multispin to install. > >Problem is NeXTSTEP simply will not install. Usual scenario is that upon >loading Adaptec drivers, it sends up: >Kernal Trap >Unexpected Kernal 8 EIP 149B7D >Failed Instruction (2,8,0)... etc. > >Sometimes it begins loading from the CD-ROM and then hangs in the middle. > >What I can tell from documentation I've received from NeXT, Adaptec and >the drive manufacturers, all the hardware settings are correct. > >I'm very frustrated and I'd truly appreciate some guidance. PL Douglas From our experience, many problems can stem from the motherboard, we went through a lot of problems with clone machines, especially using some of the components you stated above. I would rather not slam any particular brand names on the net, but all of our equipment must pass very, very stringent quality tests and I can certainly say that certain combinations of some of the products mentioned above are NOT NeXTStep reliable. NeXTStep problems in general in installation seem to come down to interrupt problems.... just because NeXTStep doesn't state that there is an interrupt conflict doesn't mean there isn't a problem using certain IRQ/DMA settings (ProAudio Spectrum comes to mind as an example). In some cases, subtle design differences in motherboards can be very troublesome and very hard to track. We have even had problems that have seemed to really come to light after several months. We have a technical document which details our tests on equipment which have pasted through our R&D centre which is available to qualified inquirers. Please send E-mail with some details as to who you are and your company and perhaps we can get you a copy. Cheers, Todd White -- Research and Development Team | I'd LOVE NeXTMail, unfortunately Phoenix Project | my computer has different ideas. SEINS | plain-Text please!! seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Message-ID: <1994Aug5.204347.668@millennium.com> Keywords: info@farcast.com Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <1994Aug4.201502.7625@millennium.com> <31sdce$ag@rosie.next.com> <31tl53$53d@yucca.omnigroup.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 20:43:47 GMT In article <31tl53$53d@yucca.omnigroup.com>, William Shipley writes: > Jayson Adams writes: > > [Re: David_Spitzler being real or not.] > > > > Are you sure? Rumor has it there's really an automaton attached to that > > address. > > > > __jayson > > Dave Spitzler was a guiding force behind the Frame port to NS/FIP. > He banged on Frame for years, then found Omni, hooked us up, and made > sure everyone had everything they needed to go ahead with the port. While I don't discount the effort Dave put into getting a NS/FIP version of Frame, he's not the primary reason it happened (something about a big customer forcing Frame to do it). __jayson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mishelle@thoughtful.com> From: mishelle@thoughtful.com (Mishelle Baun) Message-ID: <9408052011.AA01178@thoughtful.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:11:44 -0600 Subject: Pinnacle Cc: gloger@dbag.ulm.daimlerbenz.com <gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM writes <Hi, <do anybody know, what the hell is going on with Pinnacle? We have <bought a program VWall from them and were running into problems during installation. But, we can't contact them by no way (neither <fax, nor phone, nor email). The phone number they provide is no longer in <service. Did they went bankrupt??? <So, thanks in advance for any hint. I went through some difficulties trying to reach and figure out what happened to Pinnacle too. It appears to me that the company broke up and some of the products went with Mark Henry to Canada and some with Ralph Zazula. (I don't know what went where when with whom or any of the whys. My reporter background made me get the 5 w's [who, what, where when and why] in there. ) I had luck last March reaching Mark Henry at mark%sandm.kwnet.on.ca@xenitec.on.ca. I think he might be the one you want to contact for VWall. Mark Henry Pinnacle Research Inc. > 170 University Avenue West > Suite 12-156 > Waterloo, ON > N2L 3E9 > CANADA (519) 746-6944. I've tried reaching Ralph Zazula at next.com but to no avail. However, Daniel Marusich, maru@hitower.com, 408.773.8596, has been very helpful and has responded promptly to my requests this July for information on Transfer, a former Pinnacle Product. It seems he has some relationship with Zazula and carries some Pinnacle products. If anyone has anything to add/correct, please do so. Hope this helps, Mishelle McClure Baun "HyperSense--Free your Imagination" Thoughtful Software
From: peter@bert.psyc.upei.ca (Beaker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Date: 6 Aug 1994 02:26:28 GMT Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <31usck$inl@atlas.cs.upei.ca> References: <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> In article <31j15g$fft@giuliani.gun.com> ivo@hasc.ca writes: > . . . > Yes, the Workspace finder is so annoying to use, it reminds me of > something from Windows. Speaking of which, it would be nice if the file > finder would select the files it finds in Workspace Manager. Then I could > do "cmd-f *~ cmd-r" > > -ivo Or better yet, it should be a special folder window with all the properties of a folder window PLUS searching options. Norton Desktop for Windows (makes Windoze almost bearable) does this: you can select any or all of the files for copying, moving, removing, etc. -- Peter 'Beaker' Burka / GCS d--- h---- s+ g+ p? au a- w+ v++ C++ UL++++/X+++/ Prince Edward Island \ O++ P+ L+>++ 3 N++ K++ W++/--- M- V-\ po-- Y+ t+ 5- pburka@upei.ca / v b+++ D++ b- e+(*) u--- h* f- r- n- y-@ j++ r-- "If only we were weiner dogs our problems would be all solved"
From: ivo@hasc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Workspace Finder is stupid Date: 5 Aug 1994 14:33:51 GMT Organization: Hutchison Avenue Software Message-ID: <31tikf$s17@giuliani.gun.com> References: <31mv7e$g4u@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <31mv7e$g4u@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: > Of course someone around here would do a > "cmd-f * cmd-r". Let the games begin! You can do that right now from WorkSpace Manager: "cmd-a cmd-r" How many comfirmations do you need? -ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: WANTED: list/overview of apps planned for HP NeXTStep. Message-ID: <1994Aug6.031035.2564@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no> <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com> <BISSELT.94Aug4130735@marley.gb.swissbank.com> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 03:10:35 GMT In article <BISSELT.94Aug4130735@marley.gb.swissbank.com> bisselt@marley.gb.swissbank.com (Timothy Bissell) writes: >Whilst I agree with your sentiments, NeXT will be releasing the >sources to their modified gcc/gas on the HP developer CD-ROM. >Some public-hearted citizen could compile up these sources to produce >three way compilers for i386 and m68k, and stick'em on an FTP site. >this means that with a bit of fiddling developers could produce >obese binaries even with 3.2 Developer systems. They won't be getting very far without the libraries. - db -- Clearly I remember picking on the boy; he seemed a harmless little f***. But we unleashed a lion; gnashed his teeth and bit the recess lady's breast. How can I forget. Then he hit me with a surprise left... -- Pearl Jam, "Jeremy" (Or, how we create monsters. It's our responsibility.)
From: ccwf@plato.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tcsh trouble Date: 6 Aug 1994 09:28:39 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <31vl47$5mr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <giDYKAS00iV181E9ZG@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <giDYKAS00iV181E9ZG@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >However, emacs, vi, and every other full-screen program is vulnerable to >a bad termcap entry. You can't really blame emacs for mis-drawing to >the screen when your termcap tells it to do the wrong thing. Of course, the blame is not on emacs (or vi). And I use both editors all the time in multi-user mode. If anything, the blame should go on NeXT for not making the single-user mode a little nicer for those occasions when it's necessary. The bs problem I mentioned is so blatant that one would be tempted to conclude no one at NeXT had ever fired up vi in single-user mode on white harware. -ccwf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: Help! Respectfully Requesting Info re: Loading NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <Cu3KpH.JnA@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <17899.seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 05:03:16 GMT In article <17899.seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> <seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca> writes: >On Wed, 3 Aug 1994 04:37:29 GMT, nexel@jvnc.net wrote: > >>First, I confess I'm not too swift with NeXTSTEP so if my query sounds naive, >>please forgive. I have loaded it successfully on several clones, so I'm not [munch] >>System is a 486 Intel DX2-66 VESA clone with 32MB RAM and 256k cache. >>On-board floppy controller, ATI Mach32 2MB video, Logitech Bus Mouse, ProAudio >>Spectrum16, EtherExpress 16, and Adaptec 1542C. Hard drive is Fugitsu 1 gig >>or Seagate 2 gig. Using NEC Multispin to install. >> >>Problem is NeXTSTEP simply will not install. Usual scenario is that upon >>loading Adaptec drivers, it sends up: >>Kernal Trap >>Unexpected Kernal 8 EIP 149B7D >>Failed Instruction (2,8,0)... etc. >> >>Sometimes it begins loading from the CD-ROM and then hangs in the middle. We found the ATI board was incompatible with the 1542c SCSI board when we were early adopters. I thought the problem had subsequently been fixed, but you could try installing without one or other board (difficult if you have no alternative graphics controller on board, and need the SCSI for booting). We were unable to install on a somewhat similar configuration until we ditched the ATI board. Fortunately we had an alternative graphics controller on the mother board. Unfortunately it is not as powerful as the ASTI would have been if it worked. Check the Rev. status of your ATI board. If it is Rev. 6 or better it should be OK. Elese you have a problem with it. david ---------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: u192045@uebung1.rz.fh-reutlingen.de (Michael Marquardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP! TNG / DS9 Fonts Date: 6 Aug 1994 14:54:56 GMT Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik und Wirtschaft, Reutlingen, Germany Message-ID: <320880$h0u@news.belwue.de> Help! There are several interesting Type 1 fonts on some ftp servers. These are TNG-Monitor, DS9FontPlain and DS9Credits-Bold. Unfortunately they don't work on my NeXTstation, running NS3.2. (TNG-Monitor comes without AFM file; the other two seem to be slightly damaged). Has anyone of you successfully installed them under NS? CU Michael
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Multi-sessions Photo CD Date: 6 Aug 1994 20:25:54 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <320rki$elt@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <31qp5k$bpu@nova.umd.edu> fletcher@nova.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) writes: > I am seeking information about "multi-session" (Kodak) Photo-CD > support under NEXTSTEP. I checked the help under the PhotoAlbum.app > which states that this support is not in the 3.1 release--is it > now in 3.2, or has NeXT posted such a driver (for the CD drive) > to the archives? Can this work with the NeXT CD-ROM drive, or do > you need a special type of drive to read a "multi-session" CD? > If this support exist, is there an app that uses it? My understanding is that support for multi-session CD's (photo CD's or otherwise) requires changes at both the level of the CD-ROM drive and at the software level. The CD-ROM drive that NeXT used to sell does not include support for multi-session CD's. So, with that drive, you will never use multi-session CD's on any platform. Same would be true for the Apple CD-150 CD-ROM drive. Something like the Apple CD-300 drive does have the hardware support for handling multi-session CD's. It works fine when connected to a Mac, for instance (I've done it, with multi- session photo CD's). However, NeXTSTEP does not have the support for multi-session processing. If you put a multi- session CD into an Apple CD-300 that's attached to a NeXT, you will only see the first session. The above is true up to NeXTSTEP release 3.2, at least. I have no idea if NeXTSTEP 3.3 will include multi-session support. If you want more information on which CD-ROM drives support multi-session CD's, check the cdrom-faq. That FAQ is posted to newsgroups alt.cd-rom, comp.answers, and news.answers (among several others). -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Setup to recieve mail Date: 7 Aug 1994 17:47:52 -0600 Organization: Alberta SuperNet Inc Message-ID: <323rr8$jci@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> How does one go about setting up the NeXT mail to recieve e-mail messages, and to get them relayed for the times when I'm not actually connected to my server. I'm on a non-networked NeXT and I'm not hardwired to my Internet server. Any help would be _very_ appreciated! Jon Sacharuk ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca no NeXT mail yet, please! --
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setup to recieve mail Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 22:53:34 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <YiFNsiK00iV3I2sExH@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <323rr8$jci@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 7-Aug-94 Setup to recieve mail by Syzygy Systems@tibalt.su > How does one go about setting up the NeXT mail to recieve e-mail > messages, and to get them relayed for the times when I'm not actually > connected to my server. I'm on a non-networked NeXT and I'm not > hardwired to my Internet server. Any help would be _very_ appreciated! More information would be helpful: What is your net connectivity (ethernet, modem, etc)? If you have a modem, do you have a dedicated data phone line (or are you willing to get one if not)? Do you have a full account at the remote site you call "your server"? Can/do you receive email there? How much effort are their administrators willing to put in to help you? (Make sure you know who they are. They can help a lot.) Will they provide you with SLIP or UUCP access if you ask? (If you don't know, ask!) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler) Subject: Re: NeXT Newbie on Networking a NeXT to a Macintosh Message-ID: <bbutlerCu75Ks.JqH@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <5.47639319.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 03:26:51 GMT Did you follow the network configuration instructions given in the "Network and System Admin." manual? I had problems too until I read the instructions (experience with other Unix is not much help). They mean it when they say "don't connect the Next to the network yet". THat was a large part of my problem. -- ------- Bryan Butler bbutler@netcom.com
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FAXing to a remote server (FlexFax)? Date: 8 Aug 1994 10:02:40 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <324vs0$6ih@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Keywords: FAX, FlexFax, remote server Hello, Our faxmodem is served by a FlexFax server on a SUN4 and is shared between all our machines. Now I would like to use the wonderful NeXT-FAX-panel to do my faxing from the NeXT --- but I don't know how to set things up that way. Can anyone help? Thanks a lot in advance, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562---------------------------------------------- Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charles Ashley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep Date: 8 Aug 1994 14:04:54 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <325e26$g8j@marble.Britain.EU.net> Hi - Does anybody know the status of OpenStep? What about running NetInfo on HP boxes (ie. HP-UX)? Is that supported? Thanks for any thoughts. C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jura.demon.co.uk!haldane (Steve Sykes) Subject: Re: Quix Email??? Message-ID: <CtwLrv.BE@jura.demon.co.uk> Sender: haldane@jura.demon.co.uk (Steve Sykes) Organization: Jura Productions, London References: <31ge70$jfi@nntp.crl.com> Distribution: World Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 10:43:07 GMT In article <31ge70$jfi@nntp.crl.com> smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger) writes: > In article <CtsoqH.K6K@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) writes: > > I have used this e-mail address to no avail and even faxed these > > > > folks, called them, screamed out my back door etc.... No answer. > > > > I own a Quix Daydream and I think it is great (except that it > > > > hasn't run on an 030 yet - Quix claims it will but ...). > > > > You can try them at: quix@appelink.apple.com. > > > This is the address I have for them as well, and likewise, get no response. > > Sam > > -- > Samuel M. Goldberger Yeah, emailing Quix is like emailing a black hole. Does anyone have a 'phone number, or an address for them? Or do they not answer their 'phone either? I really would like to buy one of these boxes! It can't be good business to ignore potential sales like this. Steve. haldane@jura.demon.co.uk -- Stephen D.Sykes _______| Have you __| NeXT | Classic FM haldane@jura.demon.co.uk | hugged your | mail __| London, U.K. +44 71 284 3000 (daytime) _-| radio today? _-| O.K. __| NW1 7DQ
From: solovay@math.berkeley.edu (Robert M. Solovay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need to move files from floptical to DAT Date: 6 Aug 1994 05:59:46 GMT Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Distribution: ba Message-ID: <31v8si$ped@agate.berkeley.edu> I have to move about a hundred megs or so from NeXT flopticals to 4mm DAT. My current machine doesn't have a DAT drive, and I would like to get rid of it before getting the machine that will have this tape drive. Does anyone know of a service which will help? Alternatively, can some private individual help for a modest fee? Thanks, Bob Solovay solovay@math.berkeley.edu
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IRCAM's email address Date: 8 Aug 1994 14:52:11 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <325usr$t2v@panix3.panix.com> I need their email address. Send it if you have it. Thanks
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.object,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Booch2 notation dpalette2? Date: 08 Aug 1994 20:31:33 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Aug8213133@steffi.demon.co.uk> Now I know Bruce Webster put together a Booch 1 notation palette but has anybody put together one for Booch 2? -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.hp48 From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Will trade Image Filter for HP48GX Message-ID: <Cu8CGs.JFC@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 18:53:15 GMT I have written a NeXTStep Image Filter Service, that will convert many different file formats and allow many NeXTStep applications (Mail.app, IconBuilder.app, etc.) to load them just as if they were TIFF or EPS. The current list of formats loadable by my filter: gif Compuserve Graphics Interchange Format gro HP 48 Graphics Object, binary and hex grob HP 48 Graphics Object, binary and hex apf Apple IIgs Super Hi-Res Picture File gsbin Apple IIgs Super Hi-Res Graphics Screen Image pplus Paintworks Packed Super Hi-Res Picture File ast AST VisionEffects Color Data File hp150 HP 150 GWBASIC Binary Screen Image jpg Joint Photographic Expert Group Image (JPEG) I will trade this program for an HP48GX with serial cable. I might even trade for an HP48SX with serial cable. If you are interested in obtaining this filter, email me. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: IRCAM's email address Date: 9 Aug 1994 00:32:22 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <326iqm$so@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <325usr$t2v@panix3.panix.com> In article <325usr$t2v@panix3.panix.com>, Sandy Hawkins <shawk@panix.com> wrote: >I need their email address. Send it if you have it. Thanks <someone>@ircam.fr Simple as that. -- <> Love does not consist in gazing at each other but in looking <> outward together in the same direction. <> -- Antoine de St.-Exupery -- Opinions expressed herein have no connection with the UW-Madison. Jess Anderson anderson@doit.wisc.edu
From: s9405919@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Kin Wah Eddie Kong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need advise of NeXTStep on NoteBook Date: 9 Aug 1994 03:16:20 GMT Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Australia. Message-ID: <326se4$1ue@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> I am using a NeXT colorstation running 3.2. I plan to buy a note book can run NeXTstep. I got few questions? 1 What is the best configurations? 2 Is it still have some problems on notebook running NeXTstep? 3 How much can one expect to pay for a fairly minimal setup on a note book? 4 Any feeling on it running NeXtstep on a Note book? Thanks to any answer, Answer by e-mail is perferred, but not necessary. No NeXT mail. Thanks. Eddie
From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: hayes modem help Date: 9 Aug 1994 00:50:22 -0400 Organization: Brooklyn College Message-ID: <3271ue$4th@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> ----------------------------------------------------------- hi all ! i posted a while back about this but i am still having problems so here it is again. To those of you who have already lent a hand - THANK YOU! i just got my hands on a Hayes Smartmodem OPTIMA 14400 and i can't get it to work correctly. I am using C-Kermit 5A(189)on a vintage 25MHz NeXTStation (one of the ol' pizza boxes). The remote site that i connect with has C-Kermit running on a Sun Sparcstation. All i did was change the modem, and change a few things in the .kermrc file and now it doesn't work. Is there something else that i am supposed to do with a Hayes Modem, that i am not doing? The problem is speed. The characters appear on my screen very very slowly. It takes forever for the login: of the remote machine to come up. If i somehow manage to login and try to issue a command (lets say ls) Everything freezes for a while, then it prints the characters very slowly in bunches, then it freezes again, then a few more characters... it takes about 15 minutes to display a page of text. It's really unbelievable. I'm really at a loss. I am not even sure what i should be looking for. I just can't figure out what i'm doing that is wrong. The old Racal-Vadic 1200 modem with the 4 line .kermrc file works fine. But I cant get The Hayes Smartmodem OPTIMA 14400 to do it's thang. Here's what my .kermrc looks like (between the dotted lines): -------------------------------------------------------------------- echo Executing \v(cmdfile) for \v(system)... set line /dev/cufa set speed 38400 #set speed 19200 set parity none set file display fullscreen set terminal bytesize 8 set file bytesize 8 set buffers 16384 16384 set send packet-length 248 set receive packet-length 248 set window 30 set block-check 3 set file names literal set file character-set next-multinational set terminal character-set next-multinational set flow-control none set file type binary set dial hangup off set dial modem-hangup off set dial display on set dial speed-matching off set modem hayes set carrier auto set prompt {\v(host).C-Kermit> } cd ~/downloads -------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope that there others out there with a NeXT, who are also using this modem and can give some advise. Help. Please. I would be grateful for any help that you could give. Thanks very much in advance! Help. Please. Sorry i can't get NeXTmail or MIME-mail, i have to get my mail from a cluster of SUN computers. Everything Everbest, kevin parks the center for computer music conservatory of music brooklyn college of the city university of new york E-mail: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu *-------------------------------------------------------------------* * Once an angry man dragged his father along the ground * * through his own orchard. "Stop!" cried the groaning old * * man at last, "Stop! I did not drag my father beyond this tree." * * * * - Gertrude Stein in The Making of Americans * *-------------------------------------------------------------------*
From: lolo@alpha.frmug.fr.net (Laurent Azzopardi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for Free SLIP (NSFIP) Date: 9 Aug 1994 04:54:00 -0000 Organization: Slafe Corp. Message-ID: <327258$146@alpha.frmug.fr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I am looking for a free software package of SLIP and PPP for NeXTstep 3.2 for Intel Processor. FreeWare or ShareWare are wellcomed. thanx Laurent. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * lolo@alpha.frmug.fr.net <-> NeXTmail accepted (not > 30 Ko) * * lolo@alpha.epita.fr > * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) Subject: FSP - Where can I find an executable? Message-ID: <Cu9zG8.6ps@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Distribution: na Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 16:07:20 GMT Can anyone point me to a compiled FSP client? Either for the NeXT or not, but something. Thanks for any help. -- ********************************************************************* * John Burke * jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu * * Washington State University * NeXTStation Mono * * Systems & Computing * NeXTMail Welcome! * *********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cfctech!network.cfc.com!t6882tm@msen.com> From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec)) Message-ID: <9408091615.AA03567@network.cfc.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:15:12 -0400 Subject: good, fast, reliable laser printer I want to purchase a good, fast, high resolution laser printer for use with my Pentium machine running NEXTSTEP. I want high reliability and many trouble-free years of use. Price is, however, an object. What choices do I have that could compete in all these aspects with an HP LaserJet 4M+? Or is that definitely THE way to go? Thanks. --- Timothy Mills fax: (810) 948-3342 work: (810) 948-4959 t6882tm@network.cfc.com NeXTmail welcomed!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: North American Publisher for Garfinkel and Mahoney's Book ???? Message-ID: <1994Aug9.181341.10837@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 18:13:41 GMT Hi, I want to buy the NeXTStep Programming book by the above two authors but the only publisher I have listed is in Germany. The price will probably come in over $100cdn and it will take quite a while. Is there someone in North America who sells the book? Thanks.
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Login Window with a Clock? Date: 9 Aug 1994 20:15:01 GMT Organization: CERFnet Message-ID: <328o45$6k2@news.cerf.net> References: <31s0fe$38b@blancmange.ma.utexas.edu> In article <31s0fe$38b@blancmange.ma.utexas.edu> hoffman@camarones.ma.utexas.edu (James Allen Hoffman) writes: > I work in an office with three folks who use the same NeXT machine. > We are not supposed to leave ourselves logged in when away from the tube. > Any chance that someone out there has a login window that shows the time? The screensaver module of MetroTools can be run during the login window, and features a clock module amongst several others. For more info you can e-mail: info@metrosoft.com. Regards, Gordon -- Gordon Van Huizen vox: 619.488.9411 fax: 619.488.3045 Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
From: prime@vt.edu (Frank Seaton Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Login Window with a Clock? Date: 9 Aug 1994 20:57:26 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <328qjm$cbk@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <328o45$6k2@news.cerf.net> > In article <31s0fe$38b@blancmange.ma.utexas.edu> > hoffman@camarones.ma.utexas.edu (James Allen Hoffman) writes: > > I work in an office with three folks who use the same NeXT machine. > > We are not supposed to leave ourselves logged in when away from the > tube. > > Any chance that someone out there has a login window that shows the > time? > This is from memory so there may be some inaccuracies... Ftp to cs.orst.edu cd to pub/next/binaries/screen get SpaceSaver (mimics backspace on the login window) get Pharr<something> (backspace collection including a digital clock) Read SpaceSaver's documentation to figure everything out. I did this just a few days ago and it works on my black 3.2 setup.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jay_schaefer@lmsc.lockheed.com (Jay Schaefer) Subject: NextStep OS support for multiple serial ports Message-ID: <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> Sender: news@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com (News Administrator) Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co., SSD Systems E Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 22:40:27 GMT Hi, I plan to be running NextStep OS on a Pentium system and need to be able to access up to 8 serial ports. I called Next and they said that the OS only supports 2 serial ports. There are a variety of multiple serial port cards on the market. Does anyone know of drivers or support SW to allow me to access greater than 2 serial port using NextStep OS? Thanks in advance... Jay Schaefer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford) Subject: Re: good, fast, reliable laser printer Message-ID: <1994Aug10.041431.14393@venice.sedd.trw.com> Originator: blanford@arkenstone Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News) Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA References: <9408091615.AA03567@network.cfc.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 04:14:31 GMT In article <9408091615.AA03567@network.cfc.com> t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec)) writes: > I want to purchase a good, fast, high resolution laser printer for use > with my Pentium machine running NEXTSTEP. I want high reliability and > many trouble-free years of use. Price is, however, an object. What > choices do I have that could compete in all these aspects with an HP > LaserJet 4M+? Or is that definitely THE way to go? > Six months ago I bought a Sharp JX-9460PS for $1000 with a memory upgrade from 2MB to 6MB for $350. Parallel interface, 600 DPI, and 6 pages per minute. So far it's been wonderful, serving dual purpose as Postscript for Nextstep and HP emulation for Windows, transparently switching between modes. Toner cartidges are $75 for about 5000 pages. It installs under Nextstep as generic Postscript with no problem. Without the extra memory it can only do tiffs to about double icon dimensions. Anyone seen a PPD file for this beast? -- Ron blanford@gemstone.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: keith@datawell.demon.co.uk (Keith Pritchard) Subject: Next for Intel.. Good?? Organization: DataWell Message-ID: <1994Aug10.041406.451@datawell.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 04:14:06 GMT Hi! I hope this is the right place to post... Im just about to buy NextStep for Intel v3.2 Developer & user... I was wondering what comes in that.... do I get full tcp/ip? ppp/slip etc? Does nextstep require a network card? and can I set it up so I can choose to still boot dos rather than just use the emulator under next? Thanks in advance... Keith
From: terryH@ix.netcom.com (Terry Haggin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mac out of NeXT box?'s Date: 10 Aug 1994 05:27:08 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <329ofc$9ol@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Hello, I have been considering purchasing one of these but have been dismayed over the inability to contact these makers. How easy is it to make one of these boxes yourself if you have some electronic experience? What is involved? Why is the price so high? Terry
From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Setup to recieve mail Date: 10 Aug 1994 08:53:41 -0400 Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877 Message-ID: <32aikl$20s@great-miami.iac.net> References: <YiFNsiK00iV3I2sExH@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 7-Aug-94 Setup to recieve mail : by Syzygy Systems@tibalt.su : > How does one go about setting up the NeXT mail to recieve e-mail : > messages, and to get them relayed for the times when I'm not actually : > connected to my server. I'm on a non-networked NeXT and I'm not : > hardwired to my Internet server. Any help would be _very_ appreciated! : More information would be helpful: : What is your net connectivity (ethernet, modem, etc)? : If you have a modem, do you have a dedicated data phone line (or are you : willing to get one if not)? : Do you have a full account at the remote site you call "your server"? : Can/do you receive email there? : How much effort are their administrators willing to put in to help you? : (Make sure you know who they are. They can help a lot.) : Will they provide you with SLIP or UUCP access if you ask? (If you : don't know, ask!) : -Chuck I have pretty much the same problem. I would like to get a slip connection going on my Intel NS machine. I have a slip account on a local internet service provider, I currently call it with my Amiga and with this machine under WinDoze running all the standard stuff, irc, mosaic, etc. I would like to be able to call in with this machine and fetch my mail and news etc. The local provider has PPP, Slip, CSlip etc that he can set up for me, and they are quite patient. I have a dedicated phone line, and since my provider is willing to give me a 24 hour account (full time hookup) for a good deal, I will probably go that route. But barring that I would just like to be able to establish a slip connection. I also have a regular shell account there where I can dial in and recieve mail. (this is all modem by the way) I just need a reccomendation on a good PD or cheap commercial slip/ppp package. I tried Transys when I first installed NS on this machine and maybe I was feeling frustration from the instal, but Transys seemed to be a bit overwhelming to get running. Keep in mind that I have CSLIP running on two other platforms, both of which took less than 10 minutes to configure. If you can offer some insight it would be great. Brick -- Brick Eksten Digital Processing Systems brick@iac.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: thopkins@cs.tcd.ie (Tom Hopkins) Subject: SETTING UP WEB SITE ON NEXT ???? Message-ID: <thopkins-100894141450@werner.cs.tcd.ie> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: usenet@cs.tcd.ie (NN required at ashe.cs.tcd.ie) Organization: x communications Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 14:14:50 GMT Hi, We want to set up a mosaic web site using a Next as a server. Is this possible ? Could anyone point me towards more information, FAQs, source-code, etc. on the subject. Thanking you in advance.... T. thopkins@cs.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: obrooks@worf.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) Subject: NCSA Mosaic Makfile changes for NeXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Aug10.134011.23507@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: Mosaic, NeXTSTEP Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 13:40:11 GMT If anyone happens to know the Makefile changes required to compile NCSA Mosaic for a Nextstation running NS 3.0 and Co-Xist 3.0, please pass them along (via email if possible). I have tried to compile it myself and got the following errors: cd libwww2; make CC=cc RANLIB=/bin/true CFLAGS="-g -DNEXT " cc -g -DNEXT -c HTAccess.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTAlert.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTAnchor.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTAtom.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTSort.c HTSort.c: In function `HTSortSort': HTSort.c:52: warning: incompatible pointer type for argument 4 of `qsort' cc -g -DNEXT -c HTChunk.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTFTP.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTFWriter.c cc -g -DNEXT -c HTFile.c HTFile.c: In function `HTLoadFile': HTFile.c:1201: `S_IXUSR' undeclared (first use this function) HTFile.c:1201: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once HTFile.c:1201: for each function it appears in.) HTFile.c:1202: `S_IXGRP' undeclared (first use this function) HTFile.c:1203: `S_IXOTH' undeclared (first use this function) *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop. Thanks, O --------------------------------------- Oscar Brooks Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov KSC-Mail: oscar.brooks.1@ksc.nasa.gov
From: ldebraux@hds.univ-compiegne.fr (Laurent Debraux) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Nexstep ON PPC/orange CARD Date: 10 Aug 1994 14:44:50 GMT Organization: U.T.C. Laboratoire HEUDIASYC Distribution: world Message-ID: <32ap52$628@sunsic.si.univ-compiegne.fr> For what i know, at this time it's not possible to use NEXTSTEP on PPC, but who knows if it is possible, if we use an ORANGE CARD ? And is it possible to use LINUX with such a card Answer me directly by email Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Caller ID accessory Message-ID: <CuBvDr.94p@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 16:34:36 GMT I've got Caller ID service and a SupraFaxmodem with Caller ID. Is there a program for the next which just sits there waiting for rings and displays the number of the caller, and allows you to enter or modify a name associated with that number? Should be easy to program but I have little experience with Nextstep so far. Any clues/hints/encouragement will be apreciated. Thanks Odisseas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.hp48 From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Will trade Image Filter for HP48GX Message-ID: <CuBxnp.q6@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <Cu8CGs.JFC@nvc.cc.ca.us> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 17:23:48 GMT I seem to have left off a couple of types that it can load (pbm, pgm). I have written a NeXTStep Image Filter Service, that will convert many different file formats and allow many NeXTStep applications (Mail.app, IconBuilder.app, etc.) to load them just as if they were TIFF or EPS. The current list of formats loadable by my filter: gif Compuserve Graphics Interchange Format gro HP 48 Graphics Object, binary and hex grob HP 48 Graphics Object, binary and hex apf Apple IIgs Super Hi-Res Picture File gsbin Apple IIgs Super Hi-Res Graphics Screen Image pplus Paintworks Packed Super Hi-Res Picture File ast AST VisionEffects Color Data File hp150 HP 150 GWBASIC Binary Screen Image jpg Joint Photographic Expert Group Image (JPEG) pbm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Bitmaps (binary) pgm Jef Poskanzer's Portable Graymaps (binary) I will trade this program for an HP48GX with serial cable. I might even trade for an HP48SX with serial cable. If you are interested in obtaining this filter, email me. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Re: Is there a David Spitzler or is it a /dev/null mail address? Message-ID: <1994Aug10.164917.818@afs.com> Sender: michael@afs.com References: <1994Aug4.201502.7625@millennium.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 16:49:17 GMT Jayson Adams writes >In article <31k95r$7g@rosie.next.com>, Ronald Hayden writes: >>In article <31imu0$45c@errigle.gpl.net> amon@spock.gpl.com (Dale >>Amon) writes: > David_Spitzler@next.com >>>is real or is it attached directly to a bit shredder? >> >>It's real -- he's just a busy guy. > >Are you sure? Rumor has it there's really an automaton attached >to that address. [snip] No way! No self-respecting automaton would have that haircut. ;-) Michael --- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com "Can I get a root beer?" Chief Technical Officer - Wakko Warner Anderson Financial Systems Inc. NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: stephane@planon.qc.ca Subject: Re: NextStep OS support for multiple serial ports Message-ID: <1994Aug10.132041.12356@planon.qc.ca> Sender: stephane@planon.qc.ca (Stephane Savard) References: <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 13:20:41 GMT In article <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> jay_schaefer@lmsc.lockheed.com (Jay Schaefer) writes: > > Hi, > > I plan to be running NextStep OS on a Pentium system and need to > be able to access up to 8 serial ports. I called Next and they said that the > OS only supports 2 serial ports. There are a variety of multiple serial > port cards on the market. Does anyone know of drivers or support SW > to allow me to access greater than 2 serial port using NextStep OS? > > Thanks in advance... > > Jay Schaefer The easiest way to support multiple serial port is with a serial port server. We are using those from Datability (VCP 200, 8 serial port and VCP 300, 16 serial port) which are quite good. The advantages are multiples: - Since the are connected on Ethernet they do not use a slot. - They don't need special driver (you talk to them in telnet). - Each can have its own TCP/IP address, so multiple computer can gain access to them ... Stephane Savard Director R&D Planon Telexpertise Inc. 1370 Joliot-Curie #708 Boucherville, Quebec Canada, J4B 7L9 email: stephane@planon.qc.ca (NeXTmail) ________________________________________ The opinions presented here are my own and not the ones of my organization
From: mraja@satelnet.org (mraja) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStep BETA on PPC? Date: 11 Aug 1994 00:45:13 GMT Organization: SatelNET Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[2696] Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32bsap$jj2@sefl.satelnet.org> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. In article <32ap52$628@sunsic.si.univ-compiegne.fr> ldebraux@hds.univ-compiegne.fr (Laurent Debraux) writes: > > For what i know, at this time it's not possible to use NEXTSTEP > on PPC, but who knows if it is possible, if we use an ORANGE CARD ? > And is it possible to use LINUX with such a card > Well.....from what I have heard. Developers already have NeXTStep running on PPC....but dont really know if they are gonna release it. I *heard* that on some WWW site...i think..i might be wrong. Moazam A. Raja mraja@satelnet.org mraja01@solix.fiu.edu
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ## NS/i display options ## Date: 10 Aug 1994 22:51:27 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <32ce8v$a9q@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <3140uh$og3@nexus.uiowa.edu> <314af2$k97@news.iastate.edu> <31ehe2$o8l@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> In article <31ehe2$o8l@narnia.ccs.neu.edu>, Oki D Zakaria <okidz@ccs.neu.edu> wrote: >Chris Wong (chris@iastate.edu) wrote: >> I have tried the Viewsonic 17 although not on NeXTSTEP. I received two >> of them. Both of them were in damaged packaging. I had to wait for UPS >> to place an inspection to prove that I didn't break the monitors myself. > >I got mine (17G) damaged too. The packaging is not that good. And I >think that Viewsonic has to change the chassis. The current one >is not that strong. (I could fix the damaged monitor by hand.) > >The screen is good at 1024x768. But at 1120x832, there are shadows near >the edges of the windows. > > >Okidz > I have a viewsonic v17. it arrived in good shape. The packaging seemed to be adequate. Note that this is not the same as the v17G, mentioned above. I don't believe that the v17g is speced at 1120x832, ie it is not designed to work at that resoluation. You need the v17 to do that. -nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: SETTING UP WEB SITE ON NEXT ???? References: <thopkins-100894141450@werner.cs.tcd.ie> Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 07:40:50 GMT Message-ID: <CuD1C4.E3F@news2.new-york.net> Tom Hopkins (thopkins@cs.tcd.ie) wrote: : Hi, : We want to set up a mosaic web site using a Next as a server. Is this : possible ? Could anyone point me towards more information, FAQs, : source-code, etc. on the subject. : Thanking you in advance.... : T. : thopkins@cs.tcd.ie I've done it. check out our web site at http://www.net23.com Use Gn-2.04 available from ftp.uu.net Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: obrooks@worf.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) Subject: Mosaic (Native) for NeXT?? Message-ID: <1994Aug11.135717.5139@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: Mosaic, NeXT Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 13:57:17 GMT Does anyone know if someone is developing a Native version of Mosaic for the NeXT? I would like to get some details if possible. Thanks, O --------------------------------------- Oscar Brooks Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov KSC-Mail: oscar.brooks.1@ksc.nasa.gov NASA, Mail Code: DL-DSD-24 Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FTP sites? Date: 11 Aug 1994 15:46:16 GMT Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA USA Message-ID: <32dh48$7re@news.intercon.com> Hi, I'm looking for FTP sites with NeXT stuff. Right now the only one I have is cs.orst.edu. I know there is at least one at Purdue somewhere and one in Europe. Thanks, David. P.S. I'm also looking for a termios package, so if you know where one of those is, please let me know!
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mosaic (Native) for NeXT?? Date: 11 Aug 1994 17:14:32 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <32dm9o$ovv@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Aug11.135717.5139@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Oscar Brooks (obrooks@worf.ksc.nasa.gov) wrote: : Does anyone know if someone is developing a Native version : of Mosaic for the NeXT? I would like to get some details : if possible. : Thanks, : O Yes, Tim Berners-Lee at CERN is working on one. Look around for OmniWeb. I'm still fiddling witht he installation -- Can't show pictures yet, but the text part works ok. I've gotten it to crash once when I had Aleph-null windows open. -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lettau@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Martin Lettau) Subject: NeXTStep and OS2 Message-ID: <1994Aug10.090912.6481@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 09:09:12 GMT Hi folks, I think this topic was already discussed here but unfortunately I didn't follow it. Hence I would appreciate if somebody could mail me a summary. Thanks. I want to install DOS/Win + OS2 + NeXT Step on my machine. I have a few questions on how to proceed: What is the best way to arrange the differentHD partitions? Can the OS2 Bootmanager control all three systems? If so, how? Thanks for any help, Martin Lettau lettau@kub.nl
From: freeman@mr.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help! Unknown file format, Next related??? Date: Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:33:16 PDT Organization: Minnesota Regional Network Message-ID: <32dkgl$aoq@cedar.mr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello all, I downloaded two diagrams from "comp.sys.next.announce" a while ago. The original names of these files are: OpenStep.diagram2.tar.gz OpenStep.eps.gz After unzip and untar the first one, I ended up with three files. They are: DiagramText Colors.clr PrintInfo The first few lines of "DiagramText" is included here: #!DG_TEXT-Version-2 # D2 Version: Built by root on Tue Aug 24 11:38:15 PDT 1993 windowOrigin 118.00 103.00 viewOrigin 1.00 9.00 viewSize 875.00 595.00 visibleOrigin 0.00 0.00 showTools snapToGrid defaultFont "Helvetica" defaultFontSize 12.00 printInfoFile "PrintInfo" colorFile "Colors.clr" symbol 2147483647 default layer -1 shape "Rectangle" location 20.00 20.00 size 60.00 30.00 framed fillColor colorIndex 0 frameColor colorIndex 1 shadowColor colorIndex 2 lineWidth 1.00 filled textPlacement top end symbol 842 layer 0 shape "Rectangle" location 540.00 36.00 size 171.00 72.00 fillColor colorIndex 0 frameColor colorIndex 1 shadowColor colorIndex 2 lineWidth 1.00 rtfText {\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;}\margl40\margr40\pard\tx533\tx1067\tx1601\tx2135\tx2668\tx3202\ tx3736\tx4270\tx4 803\tx5337\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs48\fc0\cf0 OpenStep\ \fs24 Class Tree\ sanguish@digifix.com} textPlacement top end Being not familiar with all the major text formatting utilities out there, I have no idea what created this file. Would that be a utility under Next? I tried email the author(auguish@digifix.com) twice and never hear from him. The next file, "OpenStep.eps.gz", suggested that this is a Encapsulated PostScript. I tried using MS-Word to read it and all I can see is a header that consist of three lines. They are: Title: Creator: Diagram CreationDate: Mon Jul 11 15:26:19 1994 I am very confused about this one since there are more than just the header in the .eps file and I can see them. The very first few lines of this file is listed below: %!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0 %%Title: %%Creator: Diagram %%CreationDate: Mon Jul 11 15:26:19 1994 %%For: sanguish %%DocumentFonts: (atend) %%Pages: 0 0 %%BoundingBox: 0 0 1066 1696 %%NXNextStepVersion: 3.0 %%EndComments %%BeginProcSet: /usr/lib/NextStep/printPackage.ps 3.0 %! % NeXT Printing Package % Version: 3.1 % Copyright: 1988, NeXT, Inc. /__NXdef{1 index where{pop pop pop}{def}ifelse}bind def /__NXbdef{1 index where{pop pop pop}{bind def}ifelse}bind def /UserObjects 10 array __NXdef Thanks in advance for any kind of information. Alex Li
From: usois001@mmm.com (Margaret Green) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help w/keystroke & mouse events Date: 11 Aug 1994 12:03:49 -0500 Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN 55144-1000 US Message-ID: <32dlll$mbs@dawn.mmm.com> What I'd like to accomplish: Make the Next workspace receive keystroke and mouse events from a serial port or a telnet login session. Why I need to do this: I suffer from RSI (repetitive stress injury). I use a pen pad now and am just beginning to use voice recognition. How I envisage my environment: Front end - A PC box providing pen and voice services communicating on the net and/or via serial connection to the development box. Back end - Nextstep development platform. This configuration works in the X environment thanks to a layer implemented by the X Consortium in response to their own people with RSI.
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: good, fast, reliable laser printer Date: 11 Aug 1994 19:34:17 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <32dufp$gl1@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <9408091615.AA03567@network.cfc.com> Timothy Mills (Anatec) (t6882tm@network.cfc.com) wrote: : I want to purchase a good, fast, high resolution laser printer for use with my : Pentium machine running NEXTSTEP. I want high reliability and many : trouble-free years of use. Price is, however, an object. What choices do I : have that could compete in all these aspects with an HP LaserJet 4M+? Or is : that definitely THE way to go? I think the BEST postscript printer for the price is the DECLaser 1152, 300dpi, 2megs of ram, 13 fonts, etc.... only $699 direct from DEC and available at OfficeMax stores. It has serial/parallel/appletalk/ and another interface, it can be used in windows, Nextstep with the built in DECLaser 1150 driver, and with Macintosh. I have been using mine for about 3 months, I print large graphics, and I've never had any problems. works great. can't beat the price. Gary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help! Unknown file format, Next related??? Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 16:53:45 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ciGczN600iUxM6_kVw@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <32dkgl$aoq@cedar.mr.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 11-Aug-94 Help! Unknown file format, .. by freeman@mr.net > OpenStep.diagram2.tar.gz This is a Diagram! 2 document; you need Diagram! 2 to read it. > OpenStep.eps.gz This is presumably an EPS version of the above document. Try printing it to a PostScript printer or viewing it in a PostScript previewer. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: sperkins@osage.csc.ti.com (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep BETA on PPC? Date: 11 Aug 1994 14:22:28 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Distribution: inet Message-ID: <SPERKINS.94Aug11092228@osage.csc.ti.com> References: <32bsap$jj2@sefl.satelnet.org> In-reply-to: mraja@satelnet.org's message of 11 Aug 1994 00:45:13 GMT In article <32bsap$jj2@sefl.satelnet.org> mraja@satelnet.org (mraja) writes: >> >> For what i know, at this time it's not possible to use NEXTSTEP >> on PPC, but who knows if it is possible, if we use an ORANGE CARD ? >> And is it possible to use LINUX with such a card >> > Well.....from what I have heard. Developers already have NeXTStep >running on PPC....but dont really know if they are gonna release it. >I *heard* that on some WWW site...i think..i might be wrong. I had heard through the grapevine that the NRW (which some claimed to use dual Moto 88100 or some such) was really running dual PPCs. Have no idea as to the truth of the statement. Hoewver, it does lead one to ponder... - Steve -- =========================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Texas Instruments | sperkins@csc.ti.com Dallas, TX | (214) 995-1794
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OmniWeb and inline images Date: 11 Aug 1994 22:17:31 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <32e81r$cne@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Yeah yeah yeah I know this has been asked to death, but I just found out that a bunch of people around here aren't able to get OmniWeb to display inline images. Before the obvious gets mentioned, Autofetch inline images is checked under OmniWeb/Preferences. OmniImageFilter.service is installed under /LocalLibrary/Services, ImageViewer.app, OmniImage.app and GIFViewer.app are all installed in /LocalApps. Strangely enough, I have no problems at all with OmniWeb. It's just everyone else apparently. Images as well as a bunch of PBMConvert files are left around in /tmp, but no images are displayed by OmniWeb. I hope someone out there can give me a simple solution to this that I'm obviously overlooking. :) Respond by e-mail please. Thanks :) Eugene Mah -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Re: Mosaic (Native) for NeXT?? Message-ID: <CuEHCy.81B@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <32dm9o$ovv@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 02:26:48 GMT In article <32dm9o$ovv@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes: > Oscar Brooks (obrooks@worf.ksc.nasa.gov) wrote: > > > : Does anyone know if someone is developing a Native version > : of Mosaic for the NeXT? I would like to get some details > : if possible > Yes, Tim Berners-Lee at CERN is working on one. Look around for > OmniWeb. I'm still fiddling witht he installation -- Can't show > pictures yet, but the text part works ok. I've gotten it to crash once > when I had Aleph-null windows open. Huh??? My omniweb shows pictures just fine, how old is your version?? By the way, is the topic a FAQ yet??
From: okidz@ccs.neu.edu (Oki D Zakaria) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Conflicting drivers Date: 12 Aug 1994 06:40:18 GMT Organization: CCS, Northeastern Univ., Boston MA. Message-ID: <32f5gi$o2g@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> I have an ATI Ultra Pro VLB card and a DPT 2122 SCSI controller. The drivers of both devices don't want to be installed at the same time (conflicting ports). It's too bad that the beta driver for DPT 2000 series cards cannot be set other than port 0x4C88 ("4" is the slot #), because of the presence of ATI driver and the fact that my CPU card is located in line with that slot. I think it would be easier for NeXT to make the drivers compatible than DPT to make the card shorter. Lesson: It would be useful to stay away from EISA motherboards that have CPU slots located in line with any of the controller slots. Question: What is the easiest way to solve this problem? (Installing other drivers for the video and SCSI would not be the answer, I cannot mount my CD-ROM drive yet. [No, it's definitely more than just "Check for Disks"]) Okidz
From: mibrahim@rcsuna.gmr.com (Mamdouh Ibrahim ) Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.clos,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CFP-OOPSLA 94 workshop on OOT for healthcare and medical information systems Date: 12 Aug 1994 16:22:31 GMT Organization: GM Research Labs, Warren, MI Distribution: world Message-ID: <32g7k7$iqq@rcsuna.gmr.com> To comply with the deadlines published in the advance proram for OOPSLA '94, The deadline for submission has been extended till August 15, 1994. Call For Participation OOPSLA '94 Workshop Object-Oriented Technology for Health Care and Medical Information Systems Monday October 24, 1994 As the requirements for the new national health care system keep emerging, current health care and medical information systems must undergo major changes to meet these requirements. In addition to the need for changing these systems in a very short time, the new systems must be flexible and easily adaptable to changes. Using object-oriented technology could be the only possible way to address these demands and certainly will affect the extent to which new opportunities are realized. Goals and Focus: The purpose of this workshop is to explore the potential of using object-oriented technology in solving the problems facing existing health care and medical information systems. It will also serve as a vehicle to report on current and future efforts to develop innovative object-oriented applications in this area, and make recommendations to NIH as appropriate. Below are a number of specific areas that could benefit from object- oriented technology: Medical information systems - Electronic medical record - Clinical longitudinal database - Optical images of medical records - Integrated clinical communications - Clinical workstation - Support for declarative programming - Executive information systems - Community health network - Country patient index - Integrating heterogeneous medical databases - Security of object-oriented medical systems Health care information systems - Claim processing and EDI - Fraud detection - Customer service - Marketing health care products - Group enrollment and new business Requirements for Attendance: Interested participants are expected to have participated in the development of medical information systems or have knowledge of object-oriented technology and how it could be applied to health care systems. Participants are expected to be able to contribute to discussion on the nature and value of object-oriented technology for these systems. Potential participants are required to submit a position paper addressing the application of object-oriented technology to one or more of the above mentioned, or other related, topics . The position papers will be reviewed by the workshop committee and acceptance will be based on the relevance of the technical material and on the insight the papers provide on the workshop objectives. Important Dates: Deadline for submissions: August 15, 1994 Notification of acceptance or rejection: September 7, 1994 Organizers: Shail Arora, St. John Hospital and Medical Center, Mamdouh H. Ibrahim, EDS Object-Oriented and AI Services Bhavani Thuraisingham, The Mitre Corporation, T. C. Ting, University of Connecticut Submissions: Mamdouh H. Ibrahim EDS Object-Oriented and AI Services 5555 New King Street, Troy, MI 48098 Tel: (810) 696-7129 Fax:(810) 696-2325 E:mail: mhi@gmr.com or Bhavani Thuraisingham The Mitre Corporation 202 Burlington Road, Bedford, MA 01730 Tel: (617) 271-8873 Fax:(617) 271-2352 E-mail: thura@mitre.org
From: sailer@a4430edc.esr.hp.com (Lee Sailer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep BETA on PPC? Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 12 Aug 1994 17:01:41 GMT Organization: HP Educational Services Organization Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32g9tl$iaj@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <32bsap$jj2@sefl.satelnet.org> mraja (mraja@satelnet.org) wrote: > In article <32ap52$628@sunsic.si.univ-compiegne.fr> > ldebraux@hds.univ-compiegne.fr (Laurent Debraux) writes: > > > > For what i know, at this time it's not possible to use NEXTSTEP > > on PPC, but who knows if it is possible, if we use an ORANGE CARD ? > > And is it possible to use LINUX with such a card > > > Well.....from what I have heard. Developers already have NeXTStep > running on PPC....but dont really know if they are gonna release it. Running and "ready to ship" are two really different things. For example, NS was "running" on HPPA in January, 1994, but wasn't ready to "really ship" til July. It is amazing how often the tiny little details don't "just work". > I *heard* that on some WWW site...i think..i might be wrong. > Moazam A. Raja > mraja@satelnet.org > mraja01@solix.fiu.edu -- lee
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep OS support for multiple serial ports Date: 12 Aug 1994 17:19:16 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <32gauk$3bh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> <1994Aug10.132041.12356@planon.qc.ca> stephane@planon.qc.ca wrote: : In article <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> : jay_schaefer@lmsc.lockheed.com (Jay Schaefer) writes: : > : > Hi, : > : > I plan to be running NextStep OS on a Pentium system and need to : > be able to access up to 8 serial ports. I called Next and they said : that the : > OS only supports 2 serial ports. There are a variety of multiple serial : > port cards on the market. Does anyone know of drivers or support SW : > to allow me to access greater than 2 serial port using NextStep OS? : > : > Thanks in advance... : > : > Jay Schaefer : The easiest way to support multiple serial port is with a serial port : server. We are using those from Datability (VCP 200, 8 serial port and VCP : 300, 16 serial port) which are quite good. : The advantages are multiples: : - Since the are connected on Ethernet they do not use a slot. : - They don't need special driver (you talk to them in telnet). : - Each can have its own TCP/IP address, so multiple computer can gain : access to them : ... : Stephane Savard : Director R&D : Planon Telexpertise Inc. : 1370 Joliot-Curie #708 : Boucherville, Quebec : Canada, J4B 7L9 : email: stephane@planon.qc.ca (NeXTmail) : ________________________________________ : The opinions presented here are my own and not the ones of my organization Do you know if there is anything like this available for the black hardware? Thanks, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- The power of UNIX must prevail. The evil Microsoft must be stopped!! -- NeXTStep, the operating system of the future, today. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: kanefsky@halcyon.halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep BETA on PPC? Date: 12 Aug 1994 16:48:24 GMT Organization: NWNEXUS, Inc. - Making Internet Easy Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32g94o$mcm@news.halcyon.com> References: <32bsap$jj2@sefl.satelnet.org> <SPERKINS.94Aug11092228@osage.csc.ti.com> In article <SPERKINS.94Aug11092228@osage.csc.ti.com>, Stephen J. Perkins <sperkins@osage.csc.ti.com> wrote: > >In article <32bsap$jj2@sefl.satelnet.org> mraja@satelnet.org (mraja) writes: >>> >>> For what i know, at this time it's not possible to use NEXTSTEP >>> on PPC, but who knows if it is possible, if we use an ORANGE CARD ? >>> And is it possible to use LINUX with such a card >>> >> Well.....from what I have heard. Developers already have NeXTStep >>running on PPC....but dont really know if they are gonna release it. >>I *heard* that on some WWW site...i think..i might be wrong. > >I had heard through the grapevine that the NRW (which some claimed to >use dual Moto 88100 or some such) was really running dual PPCs. Have >no idea as to the truth of the statement. Hoewver, it does lead one >to ponder... Yes, and it's been running on 68040's for years, yet there is no version that will run on any 68040-based Mac. In other words: 1) There's a big difference between running on the same CPU and running on the same system. 2) There's a big difference between running in a lab and releasing a product. -- Steve Kanefsky
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio From: thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet) Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Message-ID: <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> Organization: International Foundation for Internal Freedom References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:15:36 GMT ADPCM is a compression technique. There are many many sound file standards. One that I know you can use is the ADPCM for SUN .au files. SOX, my sound translator program, implements this with SUN code. netcom.com:pub/thinman/st.[1-9].Z and sox10dos.zip. -- Lance Norskog thinman@netcom.com Artisputtingtogether. Art s th ow n aw y.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) Subject: How include "-L" specs in Project Builder? Message-ID: <CuFy6t.Fwp@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 21:25:40 GMT I just created a small project in PB which consists of a single Objective-C file. I created it as a "Tool". The program creates and manipulates a couple objects in a library, libNetClass.a, so it needs that library to link. I figured, I could simply drag the library from the workspace to the "Libraries" folder in PB. The drag operation succeeded, but when I tried the build I got error messages about the linker not finding this library - which is understandable, since PB included the "-lNetClass" in the link line but forgot about the necessary "-L<Path_to_the_library>". So my question is: Is this a bug in PB? I mean, I know I could simple modify one of the Makefiles to add this link-time option, but it seems pretty stupid given that PB has that information when the library is added to the folder. On a related note: It is possible to add targets to the Builder target menu - but they disappear in between invocations of the builder. Is there a way to save this across sessions? Thanks for any info. Sorry if the above have been discussed before, but I'm just now getting into developing apps for NeXTSTEP - and have, thus, not followed this newsgroup closely. Tom -- +------------------------------------------+ | Thomas Wolf | (908) 957-3955 |...Still can't think of anything | Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@merlin.mt.att.com | original to put in my sig... | MT 4D-213 | wolf@jolt.mt.att.com |...So this valuable real-estate +------------------------------------------+ is for sale... Disclaimer: These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep OS support for multiple serial ports Date: 12 Aug 1994 18:51:15 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <32ggb3$gab@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> <1994Aug10.132041.12356@planon.qc.ca> <32gauk$3bh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <32gauk$3bh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, Gregory John Casamento <gcasa@wam.umd.edu> wrote: >stephane@planon.qc.ca wrote: >: In article <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> >: jay_schaefer@lmsc.lockheed.com (Jay Schaefer) writes: >: > >: > Hi, >: > >: > I plan to be running NextStep OS on a Pentium system and need to >: > be able to access up to 8 serial ports. I called Next and they said >: that the >: > OS only supports 2 serial ports. There are a variety of multiple serial >: > port cards on the market. Does anyone know of drivers or support SW >: > to allow me to access greater than 2 serial port using NextStep OS? >: > >: > Thanks in advance... >: > >: > Jay Schaefer > >: The easiest way to support multiple serial port is with a serial port >: server. We are using those from Datability (VCP 200, 8 serial port and VCP >: 300, 16 serial port) which are quite good. > >: The advantages are multiples: > >: - Since the are connected on Ethernet they do not use a slot. >: - They don't need special driver (you talk to them in telnet). >: - Each can have its own TCP/IP address, so multiple computer can gain >: access to them >: ... > >: Stephane Savard >: Director R&D >: Planon Telexpertise Inc. >: 1370 Joliot-Curie #708 >: Boucherville, Quebec >: Canada, J4B 7L9 >: email: stephane@planon.qc.ca (NeXTmail) >: ________________________________________ > >: The opinions presented here are my own and not the ones of my organization > >Do you know if there is anything like this available for the black hardware? > The devices mentioned are stand-alone boxes and simply need a network connection to the host. They can even be shared among several kinds of hosts. The cost works out to be ~$100/port or less with large numbers of ports. Most be configured as printer (remote lp) hosts and some even come with parallel ports. The biggest advantage, beyond easy compatibility with NeXTstep (or any unix worth its salt) is the complete off-loading of a large amount of the CPU activity to the server box, especially interrupts. Some of the newer boxes can handle very high serial (and parallel) rates and some come with Slip server capability. The network connection is not the limiting factor as far as bandwidth goes. Since Intel machines are brain-dead with regards to serial communication this is a big win. Likewise for the Motorola hardware since its a dead end expansion wise. While not as cheap some add in serial card for a PC, the benefits are there for serious applications. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: North American Publisher for Garfinkel and Mahoney's Book ???? Message-ID: <940812.113209.0v7.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 11:32:09 -0600 References: <1994Aug9.181341.10837@sol.UVic.CA> Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) writes: > I want to buy the NeXTStep Programming book by the above two > authors but the only publisher I have listed is in Germany. > The price will probably come in over $100cdn and it will take > quite a while. > > Is there someone in North America who sells the book? what did your local bookstore say when you phoned them? stores here have had no problems getting them on the shelf. -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: FTP sites? Message-ID: <CuGIpx.8D4@eskimo.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <32dh48$7re@news.intercon.com> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 04:49:08 GMT David Casti (disc@vector.casti.com) wrote: : I'm looking for FTP sites with NeXT stuff. Right now the only one I have : is cs.orst.edu. I know there is at least one at Purdue somewhere and one : in Europe. Glad you asked, David. I have started assembling my Intel-based system for NS, and hope to be up and running late next week. Looked through my list and came up with a few that I think I'll check out as well: akbar.cac.washington.edu cica.cica.indiana.edu csus.edu dagon.acc.stolaf.edu ee.uta.edu nova.cc.purdue.edu sonata.cc.purdue.edu sutro.sfsu.edu umd5.umd.edu winnie.princeton.edu -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: NeXTStep and OS2 Message-ID: <CuGIy9.8pM@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <1994Aug10.090912.6481@Princeton.EDU> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 04:54:08 GMT Martin Lettau (lettau@phoenix.Princeton.EDU) wrote: : I want to install DOS/Win + OS2 + NeXT Step on my machine. I have a few : questions on how to proceed: What is the best way to arrange the differentHD : partitions? Can the OS2 Bootmanager control all three systems? If so, how? I would like to know the answer about OS/2 and NS co-habitation as well. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SETTING UP WEB SITE ON NEXT ???? Date: 13 Aug 1994 06:53:13 GMT Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding. Message-ID: <32hqkq$3ol@garuda.csulb.edu> References: <thopkins-100894141450@werner.cs.tcd.ie> And Tom Hopkins<thopkins@cs.tcd.ie> spake unto the masses: >We want to set up a mosaic web site using a Next as a server. Is this >possible ? Could anyone point me towards more information, FAQs, >source-code, etc. on the subject. NCSA httpd compiles right out of the box. Grab the source at ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu. Docs are online and there is a pointer in the source distribution. And its not a "mosaic web site", mosaic is one client written by NCSA, much like WordPerfect is one wordprocessor by WordPerfect. Mosaic maybe a popular one, but there are others like Cello, OmniWeb, Chimera, Lynx, etc... -- ___ /\__\ Ryan L. Watkins email: vamp@csulb.edu \/__/ Academic Computing Services url : http://www.csulb.edu/~vamp/ NeXTstep California State University at Long Beach --- Network Support
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio From: quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Message-ID: <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> Followup-To: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 07:13:51 GMT Technically Sweet (thinman@netcom.com) wrote: : ADPCM is a compression technique. There are many many sound file : standards. One that I know you can use is the ADPCM for SUN .au files. : SOX, my sound translator program, implements this with SUN code. : netcom.com:pub/thinman/st.[1-9].Z and sox10dos.zip. Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". No, ADPCM isn't a compression technique, but a 1-bit sample-to-sample *difference* format. The abbreviation stands for "Adaptive Delta Pulse Code Modulation". It's decidedly different from raw or compressed PCM formats like .WAV and .au. I believe the MPEG audio format is ADPCM, as well as one form of .WAV. Incidentally, .VOC and Mac .snd formats use u-law, but may vary on the sampling rate. The NeXT .snd format is identical to .au, so it's also u-law. FYI: digital telephone audio transmission is ADPCM. ....Quozl! -- //////======////////// |Dennis M. Falk |221 Huntoon St.|TTA/Animaniacs/WB / @ ) \\\\\\\\\\ |aka "Quozl Mephit"|Eureka, CA |TaleSpin/CnD-RR *___(_____(___| |(quozl@netcom.com)|95501-4115 USA |Fifi/Babs/Minerva Supporting your right to own a pet Mustelid! (Skunks, ferrets, otters, minks..)
From: zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep OS support for multiple serial ports Date: 13 Aug 1994 00:05:21 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Message-ID: <32hrbh$8qu@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> <1994Aug10.132041.12356@planon.qc.ca> <32gauk$3bh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <32gauk$3bh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) writes: >stephane@planon.qc.ca wrote: >: In article <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> >: jay_schaefer@lmsc.lockheed.com (Jay Schaefer) writes: > ... Stuff about terminal servers... > >Do you know if there is anything like this available for the black hardware? If you buy a terminal server, it works on basically anything that supports TCP/IP. I would suggest checking out the newsgroup comp.dcom.servers for more information. My recommendation for Price/Port cost VS. functionality goes heartily out to livingston. They offer a 10-port server with full TCP/IP, rlogin, telnet, DNS, individual user accounts for SLIP & PPP & firewall capability for about $2395. For $2695 you can get the same model with the capacity to expand to a 30-port server. ($795 per 10-port unit). -- Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts Abstract Software | Professional collection for NEXTSTEP lamont@abstractsoft.com | http://www.abstractsoft.com
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sharp 9460PS .ppd file? (was good, fast, reliable laser printer) Date: 13 Aug 1994 02:08:34 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <32hrhi$nd1@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> References: <9408091615.AA03567@network.cfc.com> <32dufp$gl1@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <32dufp$gl1@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Gary L. <stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu> wrote: >Timothy Mills (Anatec) (t6882tm@network.cfc.com) wrote: >: I want to purchase a good, fast, high resolution laser printer for use with my >: Pentium machine running NEXTSTEP. I want high reliability and many >: trouble-free years of use. Price is, however, an object. What choices do I >: have that could compete in all these aspects with an HP LaserJet 4M+? Or is >: that definitely THE way to go? > > >I think the BEST postscript printer for the price is the >DECLaser 1152, 300dpi, 2megs of ram, 13 fonts, etc.... >only $699 direct from DEC and available at OfficeMax stores. > >It has serial/parallel/appletalk/ and another interface, it can be used in >windows, Nextstep with the built in DECLaser 1150 driver, and with >Macintosh. > >I have been using mine for about 3 months, I print large graphics, and I've >never had any problems. works great. > >can't beat the price. > >Gary > > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------ >stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please > >Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list >------------------------------------------------------------------ The DEC laser printer is about $100 < Sharp's 9460PS. And on one hand, the Dec comes with all those interfaces built in (no Ethernet though). On the other hand the Sharp is 6PPM to the Dec's 4PPM, and 600 DPI to the DEC's 300DPI. Sharp 9460PS sells anywhere from $800 - $1000 on the open market. Search and you can find a good deal. Don't buy expansion memory direct from Sharp though -- they really gouge you. Sadly, I too need an .ppd file for this sucker, or my NextStep takes forever to print a simple page. Apparently it is downloading *everything* instead of taking advantage of the fonts I already have. I've looked at the PPD files. There seems to be a lot of mystical stuff imbedded in there (as in, where do I find the documentation for all of it?). If anybody has one, I sure would like one too! Even a stub that's kind of dumb but talks about all of the fonts. Would it work to take one of the files and just list all the fonts? What are those numbers in parenthesis in the .ppd font definitions? They vary from printer to printer for the same font name! -- Randy Kunkee Houston, TX 713-870-1334 kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Followup-To: alt.dev.null Date: 13 Aug 1994 11:38:20 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <32ibbc$8fb@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> In article <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) writes: >Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a >logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". That depends on the particular file. Format 1 is mu-law. Formats 23-26 are ADPCM. SunOS, Solaris: <multimedia/audio_filehdr.h> /encoding/ NEXTSTEP: <sound/soundstruct.h> /dataFormat/ > No, ADPCM isn't a >compression technique I'd day "compression technique" is an appropriate description of something that represents the same information content using fewer bits. -=EPS=-
From: halstej@iia.org (halstej) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Date: 13 Aug 1994 13:48:32 GMT Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Message-ID: <32iivg$rdm@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> <32ibbc$8fb@nic-nac.CSU.net> Yes, the way I understand it from the sources I've found is that there are (at least) three different ADPCM formats for the SUN sound files. G.721 goes 4bit to 16bit, g723_24 3bit to 16bit, and g723_40 5bit to 16bit. There is also some source out there that is supposedly ADPCM/DVI, but I don't know what the distinction is. In all my wanderings I haven't found many sound files compressed in ANY format. But if there were one compression that was used the most it would be that most of the .au/.snd files (Sun/NeXT) use ulaw. I wonder if the lack of compression is due to the confusion of the differing types, loss in quality, speed in decompressing, or just that most programs don't give you the option. -Jerry halstej@iia.org
From: alt@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM (and other comp. formats) Sound files ? Date: 13 Aug 1994 09:24:50 -0500 Organization: The University of Texas - Austin Message-ID: <32il3i$5df@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> > >Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a >logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". No, ADPCM isn't a >compression technique, but a 1-bit sample-to-sample *difference* format. > >FYI: digital telephone audio transmission is ADPCM. Are there any software "compressors" available on the net? I picked up some mpeg audio code (haven't compiled it yet), but I wondered if there were any other things out there (DOS or *nix). Also, does anyone have any exprience with hardware solutions to the audio compression problem? If so, which seem to be the best out there right now. -- f o V e a alt@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Subject: Re: defaults In-Reply-To: jzinn@math.tamu.edu's message of 26 Jul 1994 13:38:31 GMT Message-ID: <STEPHAN.94Aug12202653@rodion.muc.de> Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker) Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd. References: <3133kn$fl6@news.tamu.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 18:26:53 GMT In article <3133kn$fl6@news.tamu.edu> jzinn@math.tamu.edu (Joel Zinn) writes: > Does anyone know how to change the defaults? For example, my default editor is > Emacs and I would like to change it to Edit. Open a Terminal window and enter one of the following commands: dremove Workspace DefaultOpenApp or dwrite Workspace DefaultOpenApp Edit.app You will have to log out and back in to make the change effective. Stephan -- _______________________________________________________________________ Stephan Wacker stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: NeXTStep and OS2 Message-ID: <CuL2J8.By@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <CuGIy9.8pM@eskimo.com> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 15:47:31 GMT In article <CuGIy9.8pM@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: >>Martin Lettau (lettau@phoenix.Princeton.EDU) wrote: ? >> >>I would like to know the answer about OS/2 and NS co-habitation as well. >> I heard a rumor that they live together - but NEXTSTEP likes to be on top ;-) OOOOOHHH, I can't believe i said that! -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc From: pajarola@ubilab.ubs.ch (Renato Pajarola) Subject: URGENT LaTeX2e pckage wanted ! Message-ID: <1994Aug15.135609.9185@ubilab.ubs.ch> Sender: root@ubilab.ubs.ch (Operator) Organization: UBS Informatics Laboratory (UBILAB), Zurich, Switzerland Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:56:09 GMT Hi folks, i looked for the latex2e extensions but I only found all the macros in a directory. I can't download all these files one by one, so I'm looking for a .tar or .tar.gz or .tar.Z package of the latex2e. Please contact me immediatly if you know where I can get this. Thanks, R. Pajarola ____________________________________________________________________________ Renato B. Pajarola NeXT-mail OK ETH / Swiss Federal Institute of Technology email: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch Haldeneggsteig 4, IFW phone: ++41 (0)1 632 74 02 8092 Zurich, Switzerland fax: ++41 (0)1 632 11 72 Union Bank of Switzerland, UBILAB email: pajarola@ubilab.ubs.ch Universitatsstrasse 84, P.O. Box 2336 phone: ++41 (0)1 234 49 17 8033 Zurich, Switzerland fax: ++41 (0)1 234 65 18
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP sites? Date: 13 Aug 1994 18:37:49 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <77718.seins@fox.nstn.ca> To: disc@vector.casti.com On 11 Aug 1994 15:46:16 GMT, David Casti <disc@vector.casti.com> wrote: > >Hi, > >I'm looking for FTP sites with NeXT stuff. Right now the only one I have >is cs.orst.edu. I know there is at least one at Purdue somewhere and one >in Europe. > >Thanks, >David. Here are a few NS FTP sites: sonata.cc.purdue.edu cs.orst.edu ftp.funet.fi ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de nova.cc.purdue.edu ftp.next.com ftp.uni-stuttgart.de archive.cis.ohio-state.edu ftp.omnigroup.com clubside.digex.net ftp.et.byu.edu These should get you started, at least. Steve MacDougall -- Police Data Automation Command | We'd LOVE NeXTMail, unfortunately Research and Development Centre | our computer currently has | different ideas. SEINS | ASCII-Text please!! seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca |
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help! Unknown file format, Next related??? Date: 13 Aug 1994 18:44:13 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <78068.seins@fox.nstn.ca> To: freeman@mr.net On Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:33:16 PDT, freeman@mr.net <freeman@mr.net> wrote: > > >Hello all, > >I downloaded two diagrams from "comp.sys.next.announce" a while ago. The >original names of these files are: > > OpenStep.diagram2.tar.gz > OpenStep.eps.gz > > >Thanks in advance for any kind of information. > > >Alex Li The first file, OpenStep.diagram2.tar.gz, is meant to be read through a program called Diagram2! (or is it Diagram!2). The second file is readable through NeXTStep's Preview.app program, which understands EPS formatted files. I hope this helps!! Steve MacDougall -- Police Data Automation Command | We'd LOVE NeXTMail, unfortunately Research and Development Centre | our computer currently has | different ideas. SEINS | ASCII-Text please!! seins@fox.nstn.ns.ca |
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep and OS2 Date: 15 Aug 1994 16:13:13 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <32o46p$t5@rosie.next.com> References: <CuGIy9.8pM@eskimo.com> In article <CuGIy9.8pM@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: # Martin Lettau (lettau@phoenix.Princeton.EDU) wrote: # : I want to install DOS/Win + OS2 + NeXT Step on my machine. I have # : a few questions on how to proceed: What is the best way to arrange # : the differentHD partitions? Can the OS2 Bootmanager control all # : three systems? If so, how? # # I would like to know the answer about OS/2 and NS co-habitation as # well. The short answer is, it just works. Put DOS/Win in a primary partition, NS in a primary partition, and OS/2 in a logical partition. Put the OS/2 Boot manager in the last primary partition. You can use Boot Manager to select any of the three partitions to boot. Depending on the order you do the installs, you might get weirdness in terms of multiple boot selectors. But it does work. See an upcoming issue of NeXTSTEP in Focus for an article (or two) explaining all of this in incredibly gory detail. With luck, I'll also get info about Linux and maybe a couple of other OSs in there as well. joe NeXT Technical Support
From: jin@gandalf.rutgers.edu (gum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.text.tex Subject: Instant tex question: how to insert more than 1 eps file? Message-ID: <Aug.13.22.23.17.1994.20887@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 14 Aug 94 02:23:17 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. I have no problem with inserting just one eps file. But whenever I tried to have more than one eps files, it always show the following error message: ------------------ start of error message --------------------- ! Undefined control sequence. <argument> ...e N\epsfxsize \picsize \fi \epsfbox {\picfilename } \centerline #1->\@@line {\hss #1 \hss } l.43 ...fxsize \picsize\fi \epsfbox{\picfilename}} }\fi ? --------------------end of error message------------------------- here is what TeXEdit generated in my tex file: \let\picnaturalsize=N \def\picsize{3.0in} \def\picfilename{fb.eps} %If you do not have the picture file add: %\let\nopictures=Y %to the beginning of the file. \ifx\nopictures Y\else{\ifx\epsfloaded Y\else\input epsf \fi \global\let\epsfloaded=Y \centerline{\ifx\picnaturalsize N\epsfxsize \picsize\fi \epsfbox{\picfilename}}}\fi ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This is the line that is causing problems \caption{M-band filter bank } \label{fg:f1} %%End InstantTeX Picture How come the same line doesn't cause any problem when it's used only once, but causes a problem the second time with another eps file? Thank you for your help in advance. Gavin
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SETTING UP WEB SITE ON NEXT ???? Date: 13 Aug 1994 19:33:17 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Aug13203317@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <thopkins-100894141450@werner.cs.tcd.ie> <CuD1C4.E3F@news2.new-york.net> To: root@net23.com (Operator) In-reply-to: root@net23.com's message of Thu, 11 Aug 1994 07:40:50 GMT <root@net23.com> writes: >Tom Hopkins (thopkins@cs.tcd.ie) wrote: >: Hi, >: We want to set up a mosaic web site using a Next as a server. Is this >: possible ? Could anyone point me towards more information, FAQs, >: source-code, etc. on the subject. >: Thanking you in advance.... >: T. >: thopkins@cs.tcd.ie >I've done it. check out our web site at http://www.net23.com >Use Gn-2.04 available from ftp.uu.net >Nick How is this different from httpd? -- "Use the source Luke!" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Re-Registering TranSys PNI (Here's How) Message-ID: <CuJ3ty.yr@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Keywords: PNI, TransSys, license, key Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 14:20:22 GMT For those of you frantically thumbing through the PNI doco for instruction on updating the TransSys license key (the demo license key string expired today, Sunday, August 14), here's the quick low-down: (This info can be found in the TransSys PNI 1.9b distribution package under ~/PNI-1.9beta/doc/pni.info-2) Perform the following steps as root: From a UNIX shell window): 1. mv /etc/pni/keyfile /etc/pni/keyfile.save 2. /etc/pni/pnid -R 'NP0yMDAvLmQsKyoq' You will be prompted for your name, address and other information (stored on the local host in the file `/etc/pni/keyfile'). 3. Finally, edit all PNI ".config" files in /etc/pni/config and make sure the following line value is "slip" not "cslip" (the new license keystring is valid only for regular "slip"): set Config(slip:MODE) slip ...and you're done... --- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome! -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) Subject: Re: FTP sites? Message-ID: <rscottCuJ8L4.MrG@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <77718.seins@fox.nstn.ca> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 16:03:04 GMT In article <77718.seins@fox.nstn.ca> <seins@fox.nstn.ca> writes: >On 11 Aug 1994 15:46:16 GMT, >David Casti <disc@vector.casti.com> wrote: > >> >>Hi, >> >>I'm looking for FTP sites with NeXT stuff. Right now the only one I have >>is cs.orst.edu. I know there is at least one at Purdue somewhere and one >>in Europe. >> >>Thanks, >>David. > >Here are a few NS FTP sites: Here's another: roxette.mty.itesm.mx C Dvorak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: How can I synchronize a NeXT and a Mac for audio-playback? In-Reply-To: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu's message of Sun, 14 Aug 1994 14:37:06 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Aug15110533@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <CuJ4Lu.288@acsu.buffalo.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 18:05:33 GMT Jose Tomas Henriques writes: Jose> My question is : how can I synchronize the two computers for the Jose> playback of the two pairs of stereo soundfiles? Jose> Can this be done through midinote on commands, by using SoundKit on Jose> the NeXT(which I don't have yet) and using StudioVision on the Mac? This would be how I would do it. But you should even have to use notes. One computer should be able to be the sync, and the other should be set up as the slave. This can usually be done through a preferences setting somewhere. What you should be able to do then is to set up a perfomance on each machine which would play the sampled music. Then, you should be able to set the slave machine to "play", which shouldn't do anything yet. Then, when the sync machine is set to "play", both machines should start playing together. Note that there may also be a "generate sync while paused" setting on some programs that would need to be turned off.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: replace compress/uncompress with pgp in Workspace? Message-ID: <1994Aug14.104418.25102@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 14 Aug 94 10:44:17 MDT Organization: As little as I can get away with... Can I replace compress/uncompress with pgp in Workspace Manager's compress/decompress buttons? How would I give pgp a passphrase during decompression? Is there easy access to a popup window for such input? Thanks, kc
From: ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu (H. Paul Hammann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,sci.lang.japan Subject: Anyone have experience with NeXTSTEP-J? Date: 14 Aug 1994 19:28:48 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <32lr9u$a29@golf.ustores.missouri.edu> Keywords: Japanese, NeXTSTEP Howdy, does anyone have experience running the NeXTSTEP-J? NeXTSTEP-J is the NeXTSTEP operating system with Japanese Localizations. I'm interested in how difficult it is to set up on Intel hardware and how well it runs non-localized (English only) Apps. If anybody has tips, tricks, horror stories, or whatever, please let me know. Regards, ___ /\__\ NeXT system administrator H. Paul Hammann \/__/ Campus Computing ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu NeXTSTEP U. of Missouri - Columbia
From: Ryan.Kucera@uti.com (Ryan Kucera) Date: 13 Aug 94 23:52:00 -0600 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: nextstep pa-risc Message-ID: <aa3_9408141116@uti.com> Organization: UTI Systems (815) 942-2930 Is nextstep for pa-risc out yet. If it isn't when will it be? I've been off the net for a while but my hp should be in in a few weeks. Thanks, Ryan Kucera kucerarj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu -- |Fidonet: Ryan Kucera 1:2235/10 Internet: Ryan.Kucera@uti.com |Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. | And do not represent this system in anyway. | |Comments, or Questions - can be addressed to root@uti.com.
From: ajr@eng.cam.ac.uk (Tony Robinson) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM (and other comp. formats) Sound files ? Date: 14 Aug 1994 10:37:24 GMT Organization: Engineering Department, Cambridge University, England. Message-ID: <AJR.94Aug14113724@spud.eng.cam.ac.uk> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> <32il3i$5df@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu> In-reply-to: alt@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu's message of 13 Aug 1994 09:24:50 -0500 In article <32il3i$5df@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu> alt@foghorn.cc.utexas.edu writes: > > Are there any software "compressors" available on the net? I picked up some > mpeg audio code (haven't compiled it yet), but I wondered if there were any > other things out there (DOS or *nix). Lots. Many general audio compression and (all?) freely redistributable speech specific compression packages can be found on: svr-ftp.eng.cam.ac.uk/comp.speech/sources One new package is shn114.zip, which is a DOS port of shorten. This gives lossless and ADPCM style compression. As it is designed for audio it gives better lossless compression than general purpose packages (eg gzip), and as it is designed for file compression it can give less distortion than ADPCM algorithms which have to work at a fixed compression ratio. As I said, the DOS port is new, and I appreciate hearing about any problems with it. Tony Robinson
From: gdr@ffi.no (Geir A M Drange) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Date: 15 Aug 1994 09:13:27 GMT Organization: Forsvarets forskninginstitutt, Kjeller, Norge Distribution: world Message-ID: <32nbjn$i6s@helios.ffi.no> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> In article <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com>, quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) wr ites: > Technically Sweet (thinman@netcom.com) wrote: > : ADPCM is a compression technique. There are many many sound file > : standards. One that I know you can use is the ADPCM for SUN .au files. > : SOX, my sound translator program, implements this with SUN code. > : netcom.com:pub/thinman/st.[1-9].Z and sox10dos.zip. > > Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a > logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". No, ADPCM isn't a > compression technique, but a 1-bit sample-to-sample *difference* format. > The abbreviation stands for "Adaptive Delta Pulse Code Modulation". ADPCM is predictive coding where you predict future samples from past sample values, subtract the predicted signal from the original signal, and finally quantize the error signal. ADPCM use and adaptive predictor, adaptive quantizati on, or both. > decidedly different from raw or compressed PCM formats like .WAV and .au. > I believe the MPEG audio format is ADPCM, as well as one form of .WAV. > No, MPEG is NOT ADPCM. MPEG uses subbandcoding and adaptive bit allocation based on psychoacoustic models of the human ear. Geir A. M. Drange | The Norwegian Institute of Technology | Signal processing
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio From: makyen@netcom.com (makyen@netcom.com) Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Message-ID: <makyenCuo1nF.Hvn@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 06:21:15 GMT quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) writes: >FYI: digital telephone audio transmission is ADPCM. This statement is, at best, missleading. The _VAST_ majority of tellephone audio transmision is either u-Law or A-Law encoded. This is not ADPCM compression(as you stated). The _ONLY_ time that ADPCM is used is when the source and destination are sending just bits. In other words, you could be using ADPCM if you were making a "telephone call" over switched 56kb/s lines or other digital interface. However, calles over this, and other digital interfaces are usually u-law or a-law encoded so that they can be compatable with the rest of the phones in the world. BTW: u-law is used in the USA, A-law almost everywhere else. Conversion between the two is the responsibility of the network provider when you make an international call. makyen
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Can you move a HD from a i486 to a i586 arch? Date: 16 Aug 1994 15:07:57 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <32qkod$ja6@solaris.cc.vt.edu> When I got my new Dell XPS P90 I decided to try and move the drive+controller from my Dell 450DE instead of reinstalling everything. Could this be a bad idea? Is there some special configuration done on the kernel or anything else during the install that would get confused later on by moving the hd to a new system? If so is there a way to only reinstall a few things and leave most everything untouched? John Stanhope
From: rohrbach@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christoph Rohrbach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MESA Question Date: 15 Aug 1994 12:25:09 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <32nmr5$ir6@bambi.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Is it possible to create a Graph in MESA that contains a second Y-axis on the right hand side with another scale ? May be i can find an answer in the MESA Programmers Interface (API). Where can i get it from ? Greetings from Mainz, Christoph Rohrbach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: richardm@cd.com (Richard Masoner) Subject: Re: NextStep OS support for multiple serial ports Message-ID: <CuLEsE.37t@cd.com> Organization: Central Data Corp., Champaign, IL References: <1994Aug9.224027.7357@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> <1994Aug10.132041.12356@planon.qc.ca> <32gauk$3bh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 20:12:14 GMT In article <32gauk$3bh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) writes: >stephane@planon.qc.ca wrote: >: The easiest way to support multiple serial port is with a serial port >: server. We are using those from Datability (VCP 200, 8 serial port and VCP >: 300, 16 serial port) which are quite good. >Do you know if there is anything like this available for the black hardware? Ethernet terminal servers just sit on the Ethernet network, using TCP/IP to communicate with your box, so it doesn't matter if you're using black or white hardware. Since I work for the company, I do feel obliged to mention Central Data's products, which are multiple serial port (2 and up) devices that connect to SCSI bus. Drivers are available for both black and white hardware. Rates up to 115K supported. Data is packetized, and flow control is handled in the unit, so CPU usage and interrupts are kept down (kinda like with ethernet servers). Unlike Ethernet terminal servers, you don't have the 10 Mbps bandwidth to worry about (admittedly, only a concern if you have lots of ports with heavy traffic). Also, unlike Ethernet terminal servers, you have real tty ports on the host. For more information, send mail to info@cd.com Richard -- Richard F. Masoner/Unix Kernel Hacker Not the opinion of Central Data Corporation/Champaign IL 61877 GAT -d+@ H s:-- g+(-) p? au>+++ a28 w+ v++(*) C+(++) UI++$ P-- L 3- E--- N++ K+ W++ M V po+ Y+ t- !5 !j R-- G''' !tv b++ D-- B e+ u+@ h-- f* r+++ n+ z?
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc From: nhchgubi@rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de (R. Gubanski) Subject: Re: URGENT LaTeX2e pckage wanted ! Message-ID: <1994Aug15.200435.5591@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> Followup-To: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: RRZN References: <1994Aug15.135609.9185@ubilab.ubs.ch> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 20:04:35 GMT Hello, CTAN Servers support the get 'tar on the fly' feature. say get directory.tar.gz and you will get the whole thing. R. Gubanski -- Dipl.-Chem Rainer Gubanski @ Universitaet Hannover E-Mail: Gubanski@mbox.iftc.uni-hannover.de @ Inst. f. Techn. Chemie Phone : (+49) 511 762-3057 @ Callinstr 3 Fax : (+49) 511 762-3004 @ D-30167 Hannover @@ This Posting represents only my personal opinion @@
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) Subject: rpc.pcnsd on under netinfo Message-ID: <CuLMu2.uJ@nntpa.cb.att.com> Summary: do you have to be running NIS to NFS mount a filesystem to .... Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 23:06:02 GMT folks, well! i have a pentium intel running as my master netinfo server. a very simple question!!!! coming from the NIS world as i do, i'm wondering how i let my master netinfo know about the PC IP numbers - /etc/hosts? /etc/netgroup? i don't have to be running ypserv, correct? (the tcp/ip package i'm using, btw, is chameleon...) somewhat confused and thanx in advance, -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion) Subject: Re: NeXTStep and OS2 Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 03:52:57 GMT Message-ID: <1994Aug14.035257.27474@bilver.oau.org> References: <1994Aug10.090912.6481@Princeton.EDU> <CuGIy9.8pM@eskimo.com> In article <CuGIy9.8pM@eskimo.com>, Marc Salvatori <salvo@eskimo.com> wrote: >Martin Lettau (lettau@phoenix.Princeton.EDU) wrote: >: I want to install DOS/Win + OS2 + NeXT Step on my machine. I have a few >: questions on how to proceed: What is the best way to arrange the differentHD >: partitions? Can the OS2 Bootmanager control all three systems? If so, how? >I would like to know the answer about OS/2 and NS co-habitation as well. Well I have been running DOS/Win + OS2 + NeXT Step since I first installed NeXTStep on my machine - almost 3 days now :-) I re-installed because I didn't know how to fix the lost of the next step boot. I wiped it out when I installed the DOS 6.2 upgrade. I'm not sure what I did in the exact order because it was a comedy of errors - including installing everything at least twice. But you need to have all three partitions defined. You need to install NS last. In the end I re-installed 6.2, OS2, then Nextstep. When installing the OS2 I already had the partition for next up from the previous install. I hope you forgive me for being vague but it has been an interesting time - including the first HD controller that failed DMA testing and borrowing one to finish the install that is RMA'ed to go back because of flaky performance on a CD. Argh! But it was worth it. NeXT is what I suspected it would be after seeing the short demos. Now to learn it. This is going to be fun. -- Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Still looking... Message-ID: <1994Aug16.161217.923@afs.com> Sender: michael@afs.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:12:17 GMT ...for sendmail 8.6.9. Can anyone tell me where I can get it? Thanx, Michael -- Michael_Pizolato@afs.com | "Woodstock '94 - the only time I've ever Chief Technical Officer | spent money so I could be treated like Anderson Financial Systems Inc. | a refugee." NeXTMail accepted | -Jack Brasch
From: rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu (rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Date: 14 Aug 1994 14:13:22 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> 1. How is NEXTSTEP? I am mainly concerned with the 486 version. 2. Is it stable? Is it buggy?? Can you put mission critical apps on it? 3. How is NeXT as a company? Judging from past history and books and such it is not a very pretty. Job's temper, ego, and the like had caused chaos turmoil in the past. A 200+ million flop. Biggest flop in history by on source. 4. Is their tech support good or do you wait a million hours running up costly bills only to find out that no one can find the problem? 5. Will I be left holding my **** if they fold up overnight? I would like to try the product but I am deeply concerned especially after they just dumped their hardware - overnight. The question is will they dump NeXTSTEP support right out of the blue and leave us all holding our *****? I have nothing against NeXT. Its windowing system blows away MS. Windoze - the Fisher-Price toys of OSs. Its about time we have an alternative. I don't mean to be mean spirited but it can be disasterous when you commit to a company's product and then get dumped like a used up tampon with $$$$ worth of investment and nowhere to turn. Thanks in advance for any help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: How can I synchronize a NeXT and a Mac for audio-playback? Message-ID: <CuJ4Lu.288@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 14:37:06 GMT Hi. I have created a program on the NeXT which outputs quadraphonic soundfiles. Furthermore, because the NeXT can't play quad files I wrote a little program to split the quad files into two stereo files. Since I have my NeXT networked with a Macintosh, I ftp one pair of those two stereo files over to the Mac to be played through the Audiomedia II card. My question is : how can I synchronize the two computers for the playback of the two pairs of stereo soundfiles? Can this be done through midinote on commands, by using SoundKit on the NeXT(which I don't have yet) and using StudioVision on the Mac? Is there any other way? Thanks in advance for any insightful ideas and remarks. Bye. Ze Tomas.
From: avery@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Avery Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Advance 2000 Notebook? Date: 17 Aug 1994 07:15:48 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <32sdf4$gpv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Does anyone have any experience with the Advance 2000 notebook? It looks kind of interesting, but the info they send me doesn't really tell me that much. They were at NeXTStep Expo and seemed to have a better machine than the NEC NeXTStep notebook. Are there any owners out there? Any comments would be appreciated. Please send me an email copy of your reply. Thanks, Avery Wang avery@ccrma.stanford.edu CCRMA (Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics) 660 Lomita Dr. Fax: +1 (415) 723-8468 Stanford, CA 94305 Tel: +1 (415) 364-5002
From: ablakey@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Antony Blakey) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Neutral PPD for HP4ML? Date: 17 Aug 94 05:24:17 GMT Organization: The University of Adelaide Message-ID: <ablakey.777101057@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au> Keywords: PPD NeXTstep HP4ML Hi, does anyone have, or know where I can get a neutral (i.e. not Mac and not Windows) PPD for the HP 4ML. The two PPDs on ftp.mv.us.adobe.com are specific to these two architectures. I need one for NeXTstep i.e. plain unix. Thanks in advance Antony Blakey - Metaphor Pty Ltd - Cross Platform Software Engineering - Multimedia/Hypermedia/SGML specialists - 3rd Floor - 66 Wyatt Street Tel: +61 8 223 6411 - Adelaide 5000 Fax: +61 8 232 1856 - South AUSTRALIA A/H: +61 8 272 7429
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: stone.com e-mail bouncing.... Message-ID: <1994Aug15.053012.3123@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 05:30:12 GMT Anybody else having problems with bouncing mail to stone.com? Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 22:11:47 -0500 ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 1... User unknown ----- Recipients of this delivery ----- Bounced, cannot deliver: stone.com!andrew Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 07:36:55 -0500 ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 1... User unknown ----- Recipients of this delivery ----- Bounced, cannot deliver: stone.com!andrew Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 23:36:26 -0500 ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 1... User unknown ----- Recipients of this delivery ----- Bounced, cannot deliver: stone.com!katie Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 20:34:54 -0500 ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 1... User unknown ----- Recipients of this delivery ----- Bounced, cannot deliver: stone.com!info
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: Re: stone.com e-mail bouncing.... Message-ID: <1994Aug15.194707.4214@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <1994Aug15.053012.3123@nimno.wpa.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 19:47:07 GMT In article <1994Aug15.053012.3123@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: > Anybody else having problems with bouncing mail to stone.com? > > [ Decription of Stone.com mail bouncing ] I just talked to Katie over at SD and she is going to relay the message to Andrew to check on their mail connection. If you have some important mail you need to get to Stone Desing, you may want to fax them. --- Sincerely, Neil Greene --------------- benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 120 East Main Street, Suite 1101 Lexington, KY 40507 Mix Phone/Fax: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864 Email: Neil@bMD.com [NeXTmail] -- Sincerely, Neil Greene e
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: Re: stone.com e-mail bouncing.... Message-ID: <1994Aug15.195922.5320@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <1994Aug15.194707.4214@bMD.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 19:59:22 GMT In article <1994Aug15.194707.4214@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes: > In article <1994Aug15.053012.3123@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John > Bartley) writes: > > Anybody else having problems with bouncing mail to stone.com? > > > > [ Decription of Stone.com mail bouncing ] > > I just talked to Katie over at SD and she is going to relay the message to > Andrew to check on their mail connection. If you have some important mail > you need to get to Stone Desing, you may want to fax them. I talked to Andrew and he said there was a change in there mail server and some domain name servers may not be updated yet. But, things should begin working again for SD soon. (This would explain why their outgoing mail works, but some incoming mail fails) -- Sincerely, Neil Greene
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: "CryptoBundle" available ? Date: 16 Aug 1994 05:08:11 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I seem to remember that there was a public domain binary called "CryptoBundle" that would allow one to add encryption straight from the Mail.app interface -- just as NeXT had once intended. But I can't find it on the archives, and my Archie searches have come up empty. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to convert DSP port to a serial port? (and where can i get software) Date: 10 Aug 1994 23:13:06 GMT Organization: - CyberDyne Systems - Distribution: World Message-ID: <32bmu2$f9k@anduin.subculture> Is there a device for that? -- Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com 8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake, Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake." ----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: zeller@iis.fhg.de (Juergen Zeller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need Postscript to GIF Conferter Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:31:09 Organization: Fraunhofer Gesellschaft IIS Message-ID: <zeller.20.00108568@iis.fhg.de> Hello, I am searching for a tool to convert a postscript "picture" to a GIF-Image. I have tried pstoppm.ps from the Ghostscript-Distribution (with ptr instead of gs), but it didn´t work. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jürgen zeller@iis.fhg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: damonc@damonc.aetnacan Subject: EOF Application Runtime Error Message-ID: <Cun5w4.3C6@aetnacan> Sender: usenet@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:55:15 GMT Check this out: Anybody run into this with an EOF App? (gdb) step Error loading /NextLibrary/Adaptors/Sybase.dbadaptor/Sybase rld(): Undefined symbols: _sys_nerr _sys_errlist _setsockopt _send Aug 16 14:47:34 [4296] *** Uncaught exception: initWithAdaptor:: invalid nil value for adaptor exiting! Program exited with code 0377. (gdb) Thanks! Damon F. Cooper Aetna Canada damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to get .ppd file for Sharp JX-9460PS laser printer Date: 16 Aug 1994 16:18:59 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <32rag3$77v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> I called Sharp customer service and they said to fax the following information to them and they will send a floppy with a .ppd file on it: Your printer model and serial number Your name, address and telephone number Copy of the receipt or proof of purchase Send it to Ray Reynolds at 201-529-9637. Include a paragraph requesting a Postscript printer description file. They'll send you both .ppd and .pdf if you ask. (I think .pdf is for the Mac or something like that.) I included in my letter a suggestion that they just get their files onto ftp.adobe.com. They could email it to me for all I care. I encourage others to do the same. Shouldn't take long for them to get tired of making floppy disks. I just sent off for mine today. If this works, I'll post a followup. -- Randy Kunkee Houston, TX 713-870-1334 kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Still looking... Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:11:14 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <MiIHa2y00iV1I6GYgZ@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Aug16.161217.923@afs.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 16-Aug-94 Still looking... by Michael Pizolato@afs.com > ...for sendmail 8.6.9. Can anyone tell me where I can get it? From the sendmail 8.6.x READ_ME file: The latest version of sendmail is kept on FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU, directory /ucb/sendmail; check there for the latest revision. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: Joe chin <jchin@prodigy.bc.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Read NeXT faxes on Mac Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:44:10 GMT Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <32rj0a$1i0@prodsql.prodigy.bc.ca> Does anyone know of any PD or shareware Mac apps that will permit one to read NeXT fax files on the Mac? Joe -------- Joe Chin, Platforms Admin. Prodigy Technologies Corp. jchin@prodigy.bc.ca phone 1-604-687-4636 * RZ350 FZR600 * Mountain Bikes * Olympic Tornado * Joe Bar *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Message-ID: <1994Aug16.142029.25226@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 16 Aug 94 14:20:28 MDT References: <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, John Devlin <jdevlin@umich.edu> wrote: >I seem to remember that there was a public domain binary called >"CryptoBundle" that would allow one to add encryption straight from >the Mail.app interface -- just as NeXT had once intended. But I >can't find it on the archives, and my Archie searches have come up >empty. Any suggestions? > >Thanks. > >-- >John Devlin >Department of Philosophy >The University of Michigan >Ann Arbor, MI 48109 ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: /pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/CryptorBundle-1.0.NI.b.tar.gz It comes with pgp v2.3a which shouldn't be used in the US. Trash the pgp executable, and ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/README to find out how to get the v2.6 (the USable version). You'll need to make the following changes to v2.6 (suggested by Howard Cole <hcole@zia.nrcabq.com>): =================== However it is true that pgp 2.5 does not work with CryptorBundle-1.0 out of the box. This is because pgp 2.5 sends all its messages out through stderr, and CryptorBundle assumes it's coming from stdout. There is a quick fix for this. In the file pgp.c find the following lines: #if 0 /* At request of Peter Simons, use stderr always. Sounds reasonable. */ if (!filter_mode && (outputfile == NULL || strcmp(outputfile, "-"))) pgpout = stdout; #endif And change the "#if 0" to "#if 1". All will be well. Except for an extra two spurious keys in your window called "found." These can be eliminated by changing lines in the keymgmt.c file back to their 2.3 state: Replace these lines: if (keycounter == 1) fprintf(pgpout,LANG("1 matching key found.\n")); else fprintf(pgpout,LANG("%d matching keys found.\n"),keycounter); with this line: fprintf(pgpout,LANG("%d key(s) examined.\n"),keycounter); =================== It's too bad the Opener.app doesn't support pgp "compression". <sigh> Is anyone working on a real NeXT pgp interface? NXPGP.app is better than nothing, but an app wrapper (like GISO for sox) would be really nice. -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Message-ID: <1994Aug16.174351.25238@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 16 Aug 94 17:43:50 MDT References: <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Aug16.142029.25226@cc.usu.edu> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <1994Aug16.142029.25226@cc.usu.edu>, J. Kelly Cunningham <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> wrote: >In article <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, >John Devlin <jdevlin@umich.edu> wrote: >>I seem to remember that there was a public domain binary called >>"CryptoBundle" that would allow one to add encryption straight from >>the Mail.app interface -- just as NeXT had once intended. But I >>can't find it on the archives, and my Archie searches have come up >>empty. Any suggestions? >> >>Thanks. >> >>-- >>John Devlin >>Department of Philosophy >>The University of Michigan >>Ann Arbor, MI 48109 > > >ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: >/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/CryptorBundle-1.0.NI.b.tar.gz > >It comes with pgp v2.3a which shouldn't be used in the US. Trash the >pgp executable, and ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/README to find out how >to get the v2.6 (the USable version). Sorry, it comes with v2.2.. >It's too bad the Opener.app doesn't support pgp "compression". <sigh> > >Is anyone working on a real NeXT pgp interface? NXPGP.app is better than >nothing, but an app wrapper (like GISO for sox) would be really nice. > >-- kc >finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force >
From: tpg@trillian.mr.net (Terry Gliedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dynamic SLIP addresses & TransSys PNI 1.11 Date: 17 Aug 1994 00:20:46 GMT Organization: Software Toolsmiths: for your Un*x, C/C++, Motif needs Distribution: world Message-ID: <32rl4u$h5g@cedar.mr.net> I tried installed the latest PNI on my 3.1 NeXTstation. I figured out the three files to be created/modified (pni0.config, dial-zoom.tcl in my case, login-mrnet.tcl in my case). (1) in the config file I need to specify pni:ADDRESS, but in my case Mr.Net changes the IP address on me every dial-in. I extract the IP address from a message they generate when the "slip" command is sent to the remote server. (2) The dial-zoom.tcl script works just fine. Its basically a clone of the one I conjured for Linux (and that I used most of the time). No questions there. (3) The login-mrnet.tcl script works like its Linux counterpart. Now for some questions: (a) The routes are messed up. PNI sets two routes based on ADDRESS and REMOTEADDRESS - both of which are wrong. Even worse, the routes are set at the start of the whole process so things start out wrong. Even specifying pni:DEFAULT as 0 to control default routing does no good. (Didn't really expect it to though.) I've read through the docs alot and could not find anything to show there was support for this. Did I miss something ? Is my only alternative to stick some system calls in the login script to route delete and route add things as I need them? (b) So if I must do the routes myself, can I do something in LINK_stop to issue the route delete commands? Is there some way I can "remember" the real IP address? I think this is really a TCL question. I think I want to set config(pni:ADDRESS). Can anyone confirm this and provide an example? (c) So when I take the SLIP link down (pnistat -c down pni0) the software all comes down, but the modem does not hang up. I've looked at the Xyplex and Multitech examples, but its not clear which of the various modem commands makes the modem drop when the serial port DTR drops. Looking over the Zoom manual, I can't see what I'm looking for. So what should I be looking for? Or maybe DTR is not being really dropped and its not my fault?? Some kind words would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your guidance. If/when I get this working I will post it as an example. -- =================================================================== Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710
From: torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.3 Date: 17 Aug 1994 00:00:23 GMT Organization: Torsten's Ideenschmiede Distribution: world Message-ID: <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> Hi! A long time ago was a posting about NS 3.3 and other postings about the future support of black hardware by NeXT. Please summarize and mail me the infos. Does anybody know, if there will be a NS 3.3 version for black? I'm very interested ... :-) Thanx in advance. Bye, Torsten
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Recording with Sound.app, Intel/PAS-16 Date: 16 Aug 1994 22:27:16 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9408170324.AA05081@cantina.lanl.gov> Greetings, Not being sound-minded, I only just yesterday finally put speakers on my Epson NX and configured in the PAS-16 sound card driver. And it works reasonably when it plays one of the .snd files that comes with the NS3.2 distribution, such as the British lady (nopaper.snd). What it doesn't do well is recording. (I assume this is a FAQ, but it's not in my version of the NS-FAQs). Chops off things at the front or back ends of what I speak into the microphone, won't take anything of length. Ademas, it doesn't show the wave pattern that I expect to see on clicking the down-arrow button in the App interface window. This appears to be an Intel problem. On a NeXTStation I have no trouble hearing and seeing my recorded message in full. Can anybody clarify this? Is it just a PAS-16 driver problem? Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: vanguard@oar.net (Tyler Gingrich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: EOF Application Runtime Error Date: 17 Aug 1994 08:31:18 -0400 Organization: OARnet, Columbus, OH. Message-ID: <32svum$f10@dialup.oar.net> References: <Cun5w4.3C6@aetnacan> In article <Cun5w4.3C6@aetnacan> damonc@damonc.aetnacan writes: >Check this out: Anybody run into this with an EOF App? > >Error loading /NextLibrary/Adaptors/Sybase.dbadaptor/Sybase >rld(): Undefined symbols: >Aug 16 14:47:34 [4296] *** Uncaught exception: initWithAdaptor:: invalid >nil value for adaptor > Damon, Add -all_load to the OTHER_LDFLAGS line in your makefile.preamble. This will load up the Sybase adaptor at run time. Tyler Gingrich tyler@vsc.com Vanguard Software, Corp. PS: See ...NextDev/EnterpriseObjects/Concepts/04_PB-IB.rtfd or ...NextDev/ReleaseNotes/CompilerTools.rtf for more information.
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Date: 17 Aug 1994 14:38:47 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <32t7dn$f7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> In article <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) writes: > Does anybody know, if there will be a NS 3.3 version for black? > I'm very interested ... :-) I heard no NeXT employee at the Expo say that NS 3.3 would not be available for black hardware, so I feel certain that it will. It will be only a user version, no developer. What's unclear to me, though, is whether the Foundation classes now part of the EOF beta will be included in a shlib with 3.3 user or whether EOF, an extra-cost option, will be required to be able to use the Foundation class library. I'd like to be able to use Foundation classes in non-EOF apps. Will this be possible? --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: North American Publisher for Garfinkel and Mahoney's Book ???? Date: 17 Aug 1994 04:26:57 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <32s3ih$1nr@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <940812.113209.0v7.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> In article <940812.113209.0v7.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) writes: > gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) writes: > > > I want to buy the NeXTStep Programming book by the above two > > authors but the only publisher I have listed is in Germany. > > The price will probably come in over $100cdn and it will take > > quite a while. > > > > Is there someone in North America who sells the book? > > what did your local bookstore say when you phoned them? stores here > have had no problems getting them on the shelf. To order the book directly from the publisher call 1-800-777-4643 or fax 1-201-348-4505. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WILLING TO PAY FOR SOME FAXing IN CHICAGO & DC & DENVER Date: 17 Aug 1994 15:44:22 GMT Organization: Genesis Project Ltd, Belfast, Northern Ireland Message-ID: <32tb8m$ooh@errigle.gpl.net> References: <32t3nb$7eb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> In article <32t3nb$7eb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline) writes: > > > LET'S MAKE A DEAL! > > Hi! Let me explain: I'm in Asia. I'm job hunting in the US > (Chicago, DC, Denver). I have lots of faxes to send. It seemed > better to make a deal with someone in each city, send them the > postscript files (all ready to go, just use lpr -Pfax etc), > and have them fax them (a local call, costs faxer nothing (or > only a few cents)). > You might want to check out the email-fax gateways: http://linux1.balliol.ox.ac.uk/fax/faxsend.html I don't know if they cover the areas you need though: there is a list of phone prefixes that are covered. -- Stephen Fitzpatrick | sfitzp@cs.qub.ac.uk O-O Department of Computer Science | (NeXT mail ok) | The Queen's University of Belfast|"Keep passing the OpenWindows" v 7
From: phil@cnam.cnam.fr (Philippe Provost) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: looking for PD app that tracks mouse events Date: 17 Aug 1994 15:43:48 GMT Organization: Conservatoire National des Arts et Metiers, Paris, France Message-ID: <32tb7k$2gj@sheckley.cnam.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: demo Greetings to all, I'm looking for a Public Domain application (I unfortunately forgot its name) that use a NXJournaler object to keep track of all mouse events like the NeXT Apps (demo in 2.x release) called ShowAndTell I found that app with the source around the net, but I lost it and now I can t remember its name nor the achive I picked it from... If someone, or its genitor (possibly a german sites) found such app, please let me know ! I absolutely need it now. Thank you to direct your answers to philip@seriat.fr Philippe -- ============================================================================= Provost Philippe phil@cnam.cnam.fr NeXT Registered developper Veille Technologique Armee de Terre " La vie est tellement extraordinaire lorsque l'Amour est sa compagne"
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP Imaging Services? Date: 17 Aug 1994 15:37:16 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <32tarc$d8h@news.doit.wisc.edu> Keywords: slide imaging I have a document created in Create, and have tried to get an 8.5" x 11" dye-sublimation print made locally from the postscript output, but have had major headaches doing so. Most local bereaus are not Level II capable, and of course know nothing about NeXTSTEP. Are there any imaging services out there that know about NeXTSTEP and have the latest and greatest technology capable of dealing with Level II files? Any information would be appreciated. Please e-mail if possible. Thanks, Michael Giddings giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Message-ID: <espritCuovt9.EEB@netcom.com> Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List References: <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> <32t7dn$f7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 17:12:45 GMT In article <32t7dn$f7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: >In article <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van >Beeck) writes: >> Does anybody know, if there will be a NS 3.3 version for black? >> I'm very interested ... :-) > > I heard no NeXT employee at the Expo say that NS 3.3 would not be >available for black hardware, so I feel certain that it will. It will be >only a user version, no developer. The brochure on NS 3.3 specifically lists a NeXT computer version. -- Alan F. Perry Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List esprit@netcom.com
From: tom.rowden@mccaw.com (Tom Rowden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: icons Date: 17 Aug 1994 17:13:17 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <32tgfd$dmd@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: icons Is there a way to make a special icon and associate it with a TIFF file? I mean, I want to see the special icon in the viewer but when I click on it I want it to be oppened like a normal TIFF file would be, i.e. in ImageViewer, IconBuilder, etc.. surely this can be done... right? -- __________________________________________________________________________ Tom Rowden Cellular ONE McCaw Cellular Communications Mid-Atlantic Region, Pittsburgh, PA tom.rowden@mccaw.com
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Still looking... Message-ID: <1994Aug17.120503.25268@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 17 Aug 94 12:05:02 MDT References: <MiIHa2y00iV1I6GYgZ@andrew.cmu.edu> Distribution: inet Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <MiIHa2y00iV1I6GYgZ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 16-Aug-94 Still looking... by >Michael Pizolato@afs.com >> ...for sendmail 8.6.9. Can anyone tell me where I can get it? > >From the sendmail 8.6.x READ_ME file: > >The latest version of sendmail is kept on FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU, directory >/ucb/sendmail; check there for the latest revision. > >-Chuck > > >Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, >--------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of >AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." >NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi-- > Does anyone know where I can get source for the SendmailPatch provided by NeXT? -- kc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: rpc.pcnsd on under netinfo Message-ID: <Cunp6n.nr@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard) References: <CuLMu2.uJ@nntpa.cb.att.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 01:51:59 GMT In article <CuLMu2.uJ@nntpa.cb.att.com> btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) writes: #folks, # #well! i have a pentium intel running as my master netinfo #server. a very simple question!!!! coming from the NIS #world as i do, i'm wondering how i let my master netinfo #know about the PC IP numbers - /etc/hosts? /etc/netgroup? #i don't have to be running ypserv, correct? (the tcp/ip #package i'm using, btw, is chameleon...) All you need to do is a niload into the host database with the PCs IP address. Set up the PC with correct IP address on it's end and it should work. That's what I did on my NeXT and PC setup. THen I used NFS starter to set up the exports. I'm using PC-NFS on the PC. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.postscript Subject: Re: Neutral PPD for HP4ML? Date: 18 Aug 1994 00:27:51 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <32u9u7$ako@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <ablakey.777101057@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au> ablakey@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Antony Blakey) writes: > Hi, > Does anyone have, or know where I can get a neutral (i.e. > not Mac and not Windows) PPD for the HP 4ML. The two PPDs on > ftp.mv.us.adobe.com are specific to these two architectures. I > need one for NeXTstep i.e. plain unix. NeXTSTEP can use either one. You just have to massage the files a bit once you get them to NeXTSTEP. If you ftp from the PPD/win directory, then take your input file and filter it thru the unix 'sed' command to remove carriage-returns. Eg: sed 's;^M$;;' input.ppd > Output_File.ppd where "^M" is a control-m, which you'd probably have to type in by hitting control-v followed by control-m. If you ftp from the PPD/mac directory, then you want to filter your file thru the unix 'tr' command. Eg: tr '\015' '\012' < input~file > Output_File.ppd In both cases, do a binary ftp from ftp.adobe.com to your NeXTSTEP machine. You get to pick the filename for the output file, so pick a name that follows the pattern of other PPD files under NeXTSTEP. Usually the Mac filenames are closer to what you'd use on NeXTSTEP, except that they use a tilde for blanks instead of using the underscore character. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: ablakey@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Antony Blakey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: More HP4ML.ppd info... Date: 18 Aug 94 01:01:44 GMT Organization: The University of Adelaide Message-ID: <ablakey.777171704@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au> Hi, As a followup to my request for a "neutral" ppd for an HP 4ml, several people mailed me saying that I should just change the line endings to LF from CR (Mac) or CRLF (Dos). Thanks for their replies, but this isn't the problem. I already did that using an autosensing EOL converter [that I wrote..anyone want it? it's REALLY trivial but essential in the cross-platform environment]. The EOLs are fine under Unix. Now... the problem is that the two different PPD/mac/.. and PPD/win/.. files are quite different in content which is why I was looking for a "neutral" version. Both adobe versions are explicitly marked IN THE PPD FILE as being "specific" to Macintosh or Windows 3.1. Is anyone else using an HP4ML on NS/Intel 3.2? It has to run of the parallel port (actually, BiTronics according to the HP docs). Is this likely to be a problem. I read somewhere (?) that NS doesn't support bi comms on the parallel port. Is this the case? If so, does anyone have a BiTronics driver? Failing that I guess I should dump the 4ML and get a 4MP with serial comms, but with a serial mouse and modem and NS only supporting 2 serial ports.... At least I dont have to worry about fitting the drivers into 640K, but really...NS hardware config is not dissimilar to MS-DOS. Give me a Gecko! Thanks in advance. Antony Blakey - Metaphor Pty Ltd - Cross Platform Software Engineering - Multimedia/Hypermedia/SGML specialists - 3rd Floor - 66 Wyatt Street Tel: +61 8 223 6411 - Adelaide 5000 Fax: +61 8 232 1856 - South AUSTRALIA A/H: +61 8 272 7429
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: keith@datawell.demon.co.uk (Keith Pritchard) Subject: Scsi Disks >1gig with Nextstep? Organization: DataWell Message-ID: <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 13:32:45 GMT Hello, well, Im still working out what hardware I'll have to change in order to get nextstep 3.2 to run on my gateway pentium system... The latest is that my micropolis 1.7 gig scsi hd may not work? Apparently nextstep doesnt like drives above 1 gig? has anyone got nextstep running with drives >1gig? Thanks Keith -- ============= PGP Public Key Available from the usual Servers =============== Name:- | Email:- | Quote of the week:- Keith Pritchard | keith@datawell.demon.co.uk | Its Hard to work in a Aughton | keith@sc.lancsp.ac.uk | team when youre Lancashire,UK | 100101.1450@compuserve.com | omnipotent ! 'Q' ST:TNG =============================================================================
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WILLING TO PAY FOR SOME FAXing IN CHICAGO Date: 18 Aug 1994 05:31:26 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <32urne$dqb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ** LET'S MAKE A DEAL ** Hi! Let me explain: I'm in Asia. I'm job hunting in Chicago. I have about 130 faxes to send. The most economical way to do this is to hire someone in the NeXT Community to send the faxes from their computer. I will provide ps files ready to fax, all you need to do is execute a csh command (for blah lpr -Pfax-queue blah) and everything just pops into the queue (no need to use the print/fax panel :->). You will be paid in US dollars by a check drawn on a US bank. Please send me your offer seline@tpts1.seed.net.tw You (of course) must have a NeXT, fax modem, be a local call from Chicago and have access to the internet (we'll use ftp to move the files (or next mail if you wish)). P.S. I also need someone to call about 70 firms in Chicago and find out the name of the firm's managing partner. I had someone do this in D.C. and she said it took about one-minute per firm. (The main operator at the firm knows who the managing partner is (they probably receive five calls-a-day with this question.)) If you're interested, please make an offer. (The faxing and the phoning are not linked, you can do one or the other or both). (You'll need to type the managing partner's name in and e-mail me the list (this is probably the most annoying part)).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc References: <32phjr$bio@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Aug16.142029.25226@cc.usu.edu> <1994Aug16.174351.25238@cc.usu.edu> Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 09:01:35 GMT Message-ID: <Cuq3qp.MxK@news2.new-york.net> this bundle is beautiful too bad i didnt know about it sooner. it works perfectly. thanks guys! -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.programmer From: chou@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Ching-Tsun Chou) Subject: WANTED: HTML editor Message-ID: <1994Aug18.075854.25916@cs.ucla.edu> Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet) Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Date: Thu, 18 Aug 94 07:58:54 GMT Is there a public-domain or shareware WYSIWYG editor for HTML that works on a 68040-based NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 2.1? As I don't read this newsgroup, please send your reply to: chou@cs.ucla.edu Any pointer is greatly appreciated!!! Cheers, Ching-Tsun Chou
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Scsi Disks >1gig with Nextstep? Date: 18 Aug 1994 09:44:44 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <32vaic$e3m@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk> In article <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk>, Keith Pritchard <keith@datawell.demon.co.uk> wrote: >The latest is that my micropolis 1.7 gig scsi hd may not work? Apparently >nextstep doesnt like drives above 1 gig? has anyone got nextstep running >with drives >1gig? I have a Micropolis 2217 (1.7GB) going fine, but it's on black (NS 3.2). Wonderful drive, btw, the quietest I've ever (not) heard. -- <> Most novices picture themselves as masters -- and are <> content with the picture. This is why there are so few <> masters. <> -- Jean Toomer -- Opinions expressed herein have no connection with the UW-Madison. Jess Anderson anderson@doit.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: root@net23.com (A Humble Treestump) Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Network 23, Inc. Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 10:08:16 GMT Message-ID: <Cuq6ts.6rD@news2.new-york.net> I am experiencing a problem with the afformentioned cryptobundle replacement for mail.app, and pgp... I want to use this to send email messages to people without nextmail... But when I send an encrypted message, even in normal text mode, the result is a message with a uuencoded tar attachment... Is their anyway to make this cryptobundle send out plain ascii text encrypted messages? Thanks. Please mail me with replies. Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mike@isltd.insignia.com (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: Scsi Disks >1gig with Nextstep? Message-ID: <Cuq9zo.FKL@isltd.insignia.com> Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com (Usenet News) Organization: Insignia Solutions Ltd References: <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 11:16:35 GMT Keith Pritchard writes > The latest is that my micropolis 1.7 gig scsi hd may not work? Apparently > nextstep doesnt like drives above 1 gig? has anyone got nextstep running > with drives >1gig? There is a problem with some old Adaptec SCSI controllers and hard disks greater than 1 gig. The latest ones do work however (we've got one). All the info is on NextAnswers! -- All present and future standard disclaimers apply
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: slewis@bnr.co.uk (Simon Lewis) Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Message-ID: <1994Aug18.120022.19750@bnr.ca> Sender: news@bnr.ca (News Administrator) Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London. References: <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> <32t7dn$f7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <espritCuovt9.EEB@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 12:00:22 GMT um, what brochure would that be ? is it on-line anywhere ?
From: takahasi@holly.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (TAKAHASHI Shin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: looking for PD app that tracks mouse events Date: 18 Aug 1994 13:37:58 GMT Organization: Dept. of Info. Sci., University of Tokyo. Message-ID: <32vo7m$8u7@isnews.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> References: <32tb7k$2gj@sheckley.cnam.fr> In-reply-to: phil@cnam.cnam.fr's message of 17 Aug 1994 15:43:48 GMT In article <32tb7k$2gj@sheckley.cnam.fr> phil@cnam.cnam.fr (Philippe Provost) writes: >I'm looking for a Public Domain application (I unfortunately forgot its name) >that use a NXJournaler object to keep track of all mouse >events like the NeXT Apps (demo in 2.x release) called ShowAndTell > >I found that app with the source around the net, but I lost it and now >I can t remember its name nor the achive I picked it from... > >If someone, or its genitor (possibly a german sites) found such app, >please let me know ! I absolutely need it now. > >Thank you to direct your answers to philip@seriat.fr > > > Philippe I need it, too! Please let me know, if there is such an application. -- Shin Takahashi (takahasi@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Department of Information Science, Faculty of Science, University of Tokyo
From: Doug_Smith@Novell.COM (Doug Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MS Windows & SoftPC Date: 18 Aug 1994 15:04:23 GMT Organization: Novell Distribution: world Message-ID: <32vt9n$g52@bantu.Provo.Novell.COM> I have an 040 turbo slab running NeXTStep 3.0 with SoftPC 2.05.5. Is this rev of SoftPC able to run MS Windows? Every time I attempt to install Windows, SoftPC tells me that the program was attempting to enable memory above 1 MB and that this is not allowed. Any help would be appreciated! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doug Smith Doug_Smith@Novell.COM 122 E. 1700 S. (801) 429-7324 MS F-22-1 Provo, UT 84606
From: schoi@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Samuel Choi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help converting tiff to gif Date: 18 Aug 1994 15:26:55 GMT Organization: UPENN Distribution: world Message-ID: <32vujv$d45@netnews.upenn.edu> Does anyone know of a good way to convert tiffs to gifs? I've tried PBM plus, but the problem is that my images use about 20,000 colors. When I ppmquant 256 and then convert as ppmtogif suggests, the resulting image is just not that good. Please email your suggestions. I will summarize if anyone requests it. thanks, Sam Choi schoi@ccat.sas.upenn.edu -- "I'd love to go out with you, but I did my own thing and now I've got to undo it."
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Date: 18 Aug 1994 16:54:16 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <Cuq3qp.MxK@news2.new-york.net> In article <Cuq3qp.MxK@news2.new-york.net> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: > this bundle is beautiful > too bad i didnt know about it sooner. it works perfectly. thanks guys! > But only until the end of the month! You might want to ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/PGP_FAQ. It appears that as of v2.6, PGP is now licensed for non-commercial use in the US. However, as a condition of the license, RSA Data Security, Inc. insisted that PGP v2.6 include some non-functional incompatabilities with older versions in order to force everyone to upgrade. The incompatabilities are triggered September 1, 1994. Needless to say, this would affect both US and non US users of PGP and CryptorBundle. Some relevant excerpts from the PGP_FAQ follow. I have mailed this material the author of CryptorBundle, but so far I have received no reply. Hats off to Thomas for CryptorBundle 1.0. It's a great piece of work, kindly donated to the public. All I can say is, Encore! Encore! -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Q: Is PGP 2.6 an official release from MIT? A: Yes. PGP 2.6 is distributed via the Internet to non-commercial U.S. users by MIT Information Systems, via anonymous ftp from net-dist.mit.edu in the directory pub/PGP. Planning for the PGP 2.6 release was conducted with the knowledge and approval of the MIT administration. The MIT News Office officially announced the availability of PGP 2.6 in a press release dated May 26, 1994. *** Q: Was PGP 2.6 released in cooperation with RSA Data Security, Inc.? A: Yes. PGP 2.6 uses the RSAREF(TM) Free Cryptographic Toolkit (Version 1) licensed by RSADSI. RSADSI has granted MIT permission to access the non-published routines in RSAREF required to support PGP. *** Q: Was Phil Zimmermann involved in the PGP 2.6 release? A: Yes. Zimmermann has been fully involved in the release process. In addition, he approved all code changes from earlier versions of PGP and updated the PGP documentation for version 2.6. *** Q: Can PGP 2.6 interoperate with previous versions of PGP? A: Not completely. There are two different incompatibilities between PGP 2.6 and earlier versions of PGP. The first incompatibility is a deliberate format change that will trigger on September 1, 1994. The intent of this change is to discourage PGP users in the U.S. from using PGP 2.3a, which potentially infringes patents. The second incompatibility is that PGP 2.6 requires signatures to be in PKCS format, which has been the default since PGP 2.3, although PGP 2.3 was able to process non-PKCS signatures. *** Q: What's the effect of the September 1 format change? Will I still be able to use my old keys? Will I still be able to decrypt old messages? A: Both now and after September 1, PGP 2.6 will decrypt messages and uses keys generated by PGP 2.3a. To quote from the PGP 2.6 manual: PGP version 2.6 can read anything produced by versions 2.3, 2.3a, 2.4, or 2.5. However, because of a negotiated agreement between MIT and RSA Data Security, PGP 2.6 will change its behavior slightly on 1 September 1994, triggered by a built-in software timer. On that date, version 2.6 will start producing a new and slightly different data format for messages, signatures and keys. PGP 2.6 will still read and process messages, signatures, and keys produced under the old format, but it will generate the new format. *** Q: Is there a technical reason for the September 1 format change? A: No. The format change is being made for legal reasons, not technical reasons. MIT wanted to bring out a version of PGP that would have the support of RSADSI. RSADSI would not lend their support to a product that fully interoperates with PGP 2.3, which, when used in the United States, potentially infringes patents licensed to them by Stanford and MIT. The intent of this format change is to discourage people from continuing to use the earlier software, which will mitigate the patent-caused problems that have hampered use of PGP within the U.S. The time delay between now and September is to give people adequate time to upgrade to the new software. *** Q: Is there a back door in PGP 2.6? A: No. You need not take our word for it. PGP is distributed in source code, so that you can verify its integrity yourself, or get someone you trust to verify it for you. The 2.6 MSDOS executable file that we distribute has been digitally signed, so you will know that it has not been tampered with. In general, you should be wary of using encryption programs that you receive as object code, whose origin you cannot authenticate. *** Q: There is no patent problem with using PGP 2.3a outside the U.S. Isn't it offensive to impose a change on PGP users around the world to accommodate a legal problem in the U.S.? A: To quote from the PGP 2.6 manual: Outside the United States, the RSA patent is not in force, so PGP users there are free to use implementations of PGP that do not rely on RSAREF and its restrictions. Hopefully, implementors of PGP versions outside the US will also switch to the new format, whose detailed description is available from MIT. If everyone upgrades before 1 September 1994, no one will experience any discontinuity in interoperability. We apologize to PGP users outside the U.S. We are asking them to undergo the inconvenience of making a change to the non-U.S. version of PGP for no technical reason. We hope that the effect of this change, which will remove any legal controversy from the use of PGP in the U.S., will benefit PGP users outside the U.S. as well as within the U.S. *** Q: How can PGP users outside the U.S. upgrade, if PGP 2.6 might be subject to U.S. export controls? A: The format change that will become effective on September 1, 1994 can be accomplished by a simple modification to the PGP 2.3a code, which was developed outside the U.S. MIT has published the new format specification. Consequently, a non-U.S. version of PGP that interoperates with PGP 2.6 can be produced without the need for anyone to attempt to export PGP software from the U.S. *** Q: What is PGP 3.0? A: PGP 3.0 is an anticipated upgrade to PGP. Unlike PGP 2.6, PGP 3.0 will be a major rewrite and reconstruction of the PGP internal software. PGP 3.0 might be ready before the end of 1994, but there are no specific release plans yet. *** Q: Will there be further incompatible changes to PGP? A: Almost certainly. As new features are added, the format of messages and other data structures will no doubt be changed. For example, we have considered adding a new packet type for signatures that places the signature at the end of a signed packet rather then the beginning. This will permit restructuring the PGP software so that it can operate in one pass, with no need to create the numerous temporary files that PGP now creates. This will facilitate applications that are not now currently possible. For example, a one-pass PGP could be used to encrypt data to a tape drive during backup. This cannot be done with PGP today because it would need to create temporary files that consume almost twice as much disk space as the data being backed up! *** Q: Will keys generated prior to PGP 2.6 continue to be usable? A: Yes. PGP 2.6 will always be able to use keys created by prior versions. New keys, generated *after* September 1 will *not* be usable by prior versions of PGP. However we hope that all PGP users will have upgraded to PGP 2.6 or better (or its non-U.S. equivalent) by September. *** Q: Who are the people who are working on the PGP 2.6 release? A: People outside MIT working directly on the 2.6 release are Phil Zimmermann and Colin Plumb. People at MIT coordinating the PGP 2.6 release are Jeff Schiller, MIT Network Manager; Hal Abelson, Prof. of Computer Science and Engineering; Brian LaMacchia, graduate student in Computer Science; and Derek Atkins, graduate student in Media Arts and Sciences. Support from the MIT administration was provided by Jim Bruce, MIT Vice-President for Information Systems; David Litster, MIT Vice-President and Dean for Research; Karen Hersey, MIT Intellectual Property Counsel; and John Preston, MIT Director of Technology Development. *** Q: Are there more questions? A: Certainly. If there are other questions about PGP 2.6 that you think ought to be answered here, please send us to them (at pgp-bugs@mit.edu) and we will try to include answers in future versions of this FAQ.
From: idddsb@iddss1.iddis.com (Dean Banfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: changing default suffix behaviour? Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:23:22 GMT Organization: IDD Information Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <IDDDSB.94Aug18132322@iddss1.iddis.com> Hi, I'm on NS3.1/FIP and would like to change from the default Edit editor to emacs for (at a minimum) C programs. I found in my home directory a subdir called .NeXT. In there found suffixes3_1.i386.wmd. I edited the line for suffix c to point to emacs, but upon logout/login, clicking on the item still fires up Edit. This doesn't seem to be documented, as I searched the bookshelves (Admin, Devel, man pgs) for the string 'suffix' and found nothing pertinent. TIA. -Dean -- Dean Banfield IDD/Information Svcs 90 Grove St Ridgefield CT 06877
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Toshiba 3401 and CDPlayer, volume does not work Date: 18 Aug 1994 18:08:02 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <330822$2g8@sundog.tiac.net> I just got a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive, and notice that the volume control in CDPlayer.app does not control the drives volume for either the headphone jack or external speakers. This works fine on my NeXT CD-ROM drive. Anyone know if this is supposed to work? or is the drive just braindead? annoying. -- |: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :| |: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Message-ID: <espritCurCnC.3rp@netcom.com> Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List References: <32t7dn$f7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <espritCuovt9.EEB@netcom.com> <1994Aug18.120022.19750@bnr.ca> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 01:11:36 GMT In article <1994Aug18.120022.19750@bnr.ca> slewis@bnr.co.uk (Simon Lewis) writes: >um, what brochure would that be ? is it on-line anywhere ? > > At Expo, there were all sorts of brochures being handed out at the NeXT booth. One was a color one on NEXTSTEP (NS 3.2, I presume), which just mentions Intel, and a "mono" one that was explicitly about NEXTSTEP 3.3, mentioning its new features and stuff. It also said that NS 3.3 would be available for black hardware and (that nasty, evil) white hardware. I have no clue if it is on-line. I work for Sun, not NeXT :-) -- Alan F. Perry Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List esprit@netcom.com
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: More HP4ML.ppd info... Date: 19 Aug 1994 03:06:43 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <3317k3$6n5@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <ablakey.777171704@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au> In article <ablakey.777171704@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au>, Antony Blakey <ablakey@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au> wrote: >Hi, > As a followup to my request for a "neutral" ppd for an HP 4ml, >several people mailed me saying that I should just change the line >endings to LF from CR (Mac) or CRLF (Dos). Thanks for their replies, but >this isn't the problem. I already did that using an autosensing EOL >converter [that I wrote..anyone want it? it's REALLY trivial but >essential in the cross-platform environment]. The EOLs are fine under >Unix. > >Now... the problem is that the two different PPD/mac/.. and PPD/win/.. >files are quite different in content which is why I was looking for a >"neutral" version. Both adobe versions are explicitly marked IN THE PPD >FILE as being "specific" to Macintosh or Windows 3.1. > >Is anyone else using an HP4ML on NS/Intel 3.2? It has to run of the >parallel port (actually, BiTronics according to the HP docs). Is this >likely to be a problem. I read somewhere (?) that NS doesn't support bi >comms on the parallel port. Is this the case? If so, does anyone have a >BiTronics driver? Failing that I guess I should dump the 4ML and get a >4MP with serial comms, but with a serial mouse and modem and NS only >supporting 2 serial ports.... I don't fully understand your problem with the Mac or Win PPD files. I regularly use the 4ML with a converted Mac PPD file on a Gateway machine through the parallel port without any problems. It appears to work with all the print panel options. The printer and Next handshake correctly so the current lack of bidirectional comm is not a problem. I looked extensively at the Mac PPD file and its quite similiar to the PPD files supplied for other 4x printers on the Next. I do not believe there is any reason not to use the Mac version. I can't say much about the Win version, as I've never had the need to use it. I would just ignore the Mac version only comments and go ahead with it. If you want to use the printer over the serial port a $25.00 (us) serial/parallel converter will be cheaper than changing over to the 4MP. The 4ML is a nice low end PS printer with a nice flat manual feed. Works great with envelopes and special stock. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: lcs@shore.net (Harold Leach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dynamic SLIP addresses & TransSys PNI 1.11 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 23:02:38 Organization: Legal Computer Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <lcs.2.00170BF0@shore.net> References: <32rl4u$h5g@cedar.mr.net> Keywords: SLIP PNI dynamic address In article <32rl4u$h5g@cedar.mr.net> tpg@trillian.mr.net (Terry Gliedt) writes: >I tried installed the latest PNI on my 3.1 NeXTstation. I figured out the >three files to be created/modified (pni0.config, dial-zoom.tcl in my case, >login-mrnet.tcl in my case). >(1) in the config file I need to specify pni:ADDRESS, but in my case >Mr.Net changes the IP address on me every dial-in. I extract the >IP address from a message they generate when the "slip" command >is sent to the remote server. >(2) The dial-zoom.tcl script works just fine. Its basically a clone >of the one I conjured for Linux (and that I used most of the time). >No questions there. >(3) The login-mrnet.tcl script works like its Linux counterpart. > Now for some questions: >(a) The routes are messed up. PNI sets two routes based on >ADDRESS and REMOTEADDRESS - both of which are wrong. >Even worse, the routes are set at the start of the whole process >so things start out wrong. >Even specifying pni:DEFAULT as 0 to control default routing does >no good. (Didn't really expect it to though.) I use PNI with a Zoom modem too, and I got it working after a couple of days of tweaking. Are you using the command exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 inet $1 {your slip server's address} netmask {your netmask} in your login- .tcl file? This sets the dynamic slip address. (BTW, $1 is the variable which holds my dynamic ip address obtained each time I log on to the slip server). ------------------------------------------- Legal Computer Solutions, Inc. 107 Union Wharf, Boston, MA 02109 e-mail: lcs@shore.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Scsi Disks >1gig with Nextstep? Message-ID: <CurLEq.6Bn@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 04:20:49 GMT Keith Pritchard (keith@datawell.demon.co.uk) wrote: : The latest is that my micropolis 1.7 gig scsi hd may not work? Apparently : nextstep doesnt like drives above 1 gig? has anyone got nextstep running : with drives >1gig? You'll do fine, Keith. NS can work with partitions as large as 2 GB. Larger drives must be multi-partitioned to accomodate this limitation. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: larry@unbc.edu (Larry Gadallah (CTS)) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Date: 19 Aug 1994 05:00:32 GMT Organization: University of Northern British Colombia Distribution: inet Message-ID: <LARRY.94Aug18220032@unbc.unbc.edu> References: <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> In-reply-to: rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu's message of 14 Aug 1994 14:13:22 GMT In article <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu (rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu) writes: > 5. Will I be left holding my **** if they fold up overnight? I > would like to try the product but I am deeply concerned > especially after they just dumped their hardware - overnight. > The question is will they dump NeXTSTEP support right out of > the blue and leave us all holding our *****? I have nothing > against NeXT. Its windowing system blows away MS. Windoze - the > Fisher-Price toys of OSs. Its about time we have an alternative. > > I don't mean to be mean spirited but it can be disasterous > when you commit to a company's product and then get dumped > like a used up tampon with $$$$ worth of investment and > nowhere to turn. > > Thanks in advance for any help. Welcome to reality (tm). Show me where it's different and I'll be on the first plane. Sometimes people get close to this utopia, but they are usually very wealthy and not in a hurry, unlike 99% of the rest of us. Seriously, any company or organization can dump you at any time. The best advice I have heard is that if you can't support it yourself, drop it. We use a lot of PCs (generic corner store hardware) and BSDI (with complete source code), so _theoretically_ we can't be stranded as long as we are willing to invest in internal staff to provide support. Other than that, you are on your own as soon as the cash flow to the vendor stops. -- Larry Gadallah <larry@unbc.edu> Operating Systems Programmer (604) 960-5683 University of Northern British Columbia Prince George, BC, Canada -- -- Larry Gadallah <larry@unbc.edu> Operating Systems Programmer (604) 960-5683 University of Northern British Columbia Prince George, BC, Canada
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Date: 18 Aug 1994 07:47:17 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Aug18084717@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> <32t7dn$f7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> To: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) In-reply-to: art@cubicsol.com's message of 17 Aug 1994 14:38:47 GMT <art@cubicsol.com> writes: >In article <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van >Beeck) writes: >>Does anybody know, if there will be a NS 3.3 version for black? >>I'm very interested ... :-) > I heard no NeXT employee at the Expo say that NS 3.3 would not be >available for black hardware, so I feel certain that it will. It will be >only a user version, no developer. > What's unclear to me, though, is whether the Foundation classes now >part of the EOF beta will be included in a shlib with 3.3 user or whether >EOF, an extra-cost option, will be required to be able to use the >Foundation class library. I'd like to be able to use Foundation classes >in non-EOF apps. Will this be possible? >--- >Art Isbell Cubic Solutions >NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting >NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 >USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515 Isn't it rather pointless to release the foundationkit and not guarantee it's adopters that their apps will work on all platforms? ie. not just for those people who have purchased FK licenses? -- "Mariella Mariella Mariella" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mike@isltd.insignia.com (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: MS Windows & SoftPC Message-ID: <CuqqFx.9n@isltd.insignia.com> Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com (Usenet News) Organization: Insignia Solutions Ltd References: <32vt9n$g52@bantu.Provo.Novell.COM> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 17:11:56 GMT Doug Smith writes > I have an 040 turbo slab running NeXTStep 3.0 with SoftPC 2.05.5. Is > this rev of SoftPC able to run MS Windows? Every time I attempt to > install Windows, SoftPC tells me that the program was attempting to > enable memory above 1 MB and that this is not allowed. SoftPC 2.05.5 was real mode only. If you're trying to install Windows 3.1, then it needs protected mode, so you need to upgrade to SoftPC 3.0 (for 68K). -- All present and future standard disclaimers apply
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Scsi Disks >1gig with Nextstep? Date: 19 Aug 1994 09:23:42 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <331tmu$ct8@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk> <32vaic$e3m@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <32vaic$e3m@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Jess Anderson <anderson@doit.wisc.edu> wrote: >In article <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk>, >Keith Pritchard <keith@datawell.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>The latest is that my micropolis 1.7 gig scsi hd may not work? Apparently >>nextstep doesnt like drives above 1 gig? has anyone got nextstep running >>with drives >1gig? > >I have a Micropolis 2217 (1.7GB) going fine, but it's on >black (NS 3.2). Wonderful drive, btw, the quietest I've >ever (not) heard. > Works fine with white as well with both 1542c and 445s (better ;-) controllers. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Message-ID: <Cuq7or.B3q@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) References: <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 10:26:51 GMT In article <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) writes: > A long time ago was a posting about NS 3.3 and other postings > about the future support of black hardware by NeXT. > > Please summarize and mail me the infos. > > Does anybody know, if there will be a NS 3.3 version for black? > I'm very interested ... :-) > I don't speak for NeXT, but I can be fairly certain that 3.3 for black exists and I would guess will be released sometime in the Fall. So I don't think black hardware support is going to go away anytime soon. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Message-ID: <CurAxs.Lw@relief.com> Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Organization: Relief Consulting & Development References: <32t7dn$f7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 00:34:39 GMT In article <32t7dn$f7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > In article <32rjun$av@eirah.ping.de> torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van > Beeck) writes: > > Does anybody know, if there will be a NS 3.3 version for black? > > I'm very interested ... :-) > > I heard no NeXT employee at the Expo say that NS 3.3 would not be > available for black hardware, so I feel certain that it will. It will be > only a user version, no developer. > What's unclear to me, though, is whether the Foundation classes now > part of the EOF beta will be included in a shlib with 3.3 user or whether > EOF, an extra-cost option, will be required to be able to use the > Foundation class library. I'd like to be able to use Foundation classes > in non-EOF apps. Will this be possible? > --- > Art Isbell Cubic Solutions > NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting > NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 > USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515 As far as I remember, libFoundation is included in the 3.3 beta release, so it should also be in the golden 3.3 User release. John -- John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com Relief Consulting & Development (206) 743-3953 4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!! Edmonds, WA 98026-4433 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: comp.sys.next.marketplace crashes NewsGrazer Message-ID: <CusHvx.4M0@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:02:19 GMT Can someone contact the person who posted the article that crashes NewsGrazer and ask them to cancel their post. -- personal opinions
From: willmore@iastate.edu (David Willmore) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,comp.sys.sgi.audio,alt.binaries.sounds.utilities,alt.binaries.sounds.music,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.audio Subject: Re: ADPCM Sound files ? Date: 20 Aug 94 02:20:06 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <willmore.777349206@tremplo.gis.iastate.edu> References: <31p4v7$o3l@mary.iia.org> <thinmanCuFuy0.JnC@netcom.com> <quozlCuGpF3.C4C@netcom.com> quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) writes: >Technically Sweet (thinman@netcom.com) wrote: >: ADPCM is a compression technique. There are many many sound file >: standards. One that I know you can use is the ADPCM for SUN .au files. >: SOX, my sound translator program, implements this with SUN code. >: netcom.com:pub/thinman/st.[1-9].Z and sox10dos.zip. >Umm, hate to say this, but the SUN .au format *isn't* ADPCM, but a >logarithmicly (sp?) compressed format, called "u-law". No, ADPCM isn't a >compression technique, but a 1-bit sample-to-sample *difference* format. >The abbreviation stands for "Adaptive Delta Pulse Code Modulation". It's >decidedly different from raw or compressed PCM formats like .WAV and .au. >I believe the MPEG audio format is ADPCM, as well as one form of .WAV. I don't think that what was written implies that. It says that ADPCM is a compression technique--it is. It goes on to say that there are many sould file formats (ADPCM may or may not have anything to do with any particular one). Then the poster goes on to say that they prefer sun .au format. ADPCM stands for Adaptive Differential Pulse Code Modulation. If the differential is 1 bit then it is Adaptive Delta PCM. >Incidentally, .VOC and Mac .snd formats use u-law, but may vary on the >sampling rate. The NeXT .snd format is identical to .au, so it's also u-law. >FYI: digital telephone audio transmission is ADPCM. Not normally. It's u-law or a-law depending on your country. Cheers, David -- ___________________________________________________________________________ willmore@iastate.edu | "Death before dishonor" | "Better dead than greek" | David Willmore | "Ever noticed how much they look like orchids? Lovely!" | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: Re: stone.com e-mail bouncing.... Message-ID: <1994Aug19.162743.7584@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. References: <1994Aug15.195922.5320@bMD.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:27:43 GMT In article <1994Aug15.195922.5320@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes: > In article <1994Aug15.194707.4214@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> > writes: > > In article <1994Aug15.053012.3123@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John > > Bartley) writes: > > > Anybody else having problems with bouncing mail to stone.com? > > > > > > [ Decription of Stone.com mail bouncing ] > > > > > > [ More Descriptions Deleted ] Has anyone had any luck yet. Andrew gave me a ring, but I don't think their mail is back up yet? I may be wrong?? -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Scsi Disks >1gig with Nextstep? Date: 19 Aug 1994 18:15:29 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <332ss1$125o@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk> <32vaic$e3m@news.doit.wisc.edu> <331tmu$ct8@news.acns.nwu.edu> Ok, Anyone installed these monster 9 GB drives yet? -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: looking for PD app that tracks mouse events Date: 20 Aug 1994 00:24:16 GMT Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Message-ID: <333ifg$m6p@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: <32tb7k$2gj@sheckley.cnam.fr> <32vo7m$8u7@isnews.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Look at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de ... drop me a line if you can't find it. luck,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Adding to the top of the Dock??? Message-ID: <thompsonCut789.LqK@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 01:09:44 GMT I know a lot of interesting ideas have been bandied about with respect to extending dock functionality (e.g. 3-d dock, rotating dock, etc.). I was just wondering why, since you can pull the NeXT icon down to the bottom of the screen, you can't add items _above_ the NeXT icon. This would effectively double the dock space (with the NeXT icon as the median). Ah well, just a thought I had. Eric
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories References: <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> <LARRY.94Aug18220032@unbc.unbc.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 02:53:05 GMT Larry Gadallah (CTS) (larry@unbc.edu) wrote: : In article <32l8q2$2jn@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu (rt@astro.ocis.temple.edu) writes: : > 5. Will I be left holding my **** if they fold up overnight? I : > would like to try the product but I am deeply concerned : > especially after they just dumped their hardware - overnight. : > The question is will they dump NeXTSTEP support right out of : > the blue and leave us all holding our *****? I have nothing : > against NeXT. Its windowing system blows away MS. Windoze - the : > Fisher-Price toys of OSs. Its about time we have an alternative. : > : > I don't mean to be mean spirited but it can be disasterous : > when you commit to a company's product and then get dumped : > like a used up tampon with $$$$ worth of investment and : > nowhere to turn. : > : > Thanks in advance for any help. : Other than that, you are on your own as soon as the cash flow to the : vendor stops. There are three ways you can minimize your risk: 1. Only buy your software from large companies unlikely to go bankrupt (e.g. Microsoft, AT&T, IBM, etc.) and unlikely to discontinue a product. 2. Buy only software for which you can get source since you can maintain the s/w yourself if/when the vendors ceases to support it or goes bankrupt. 3. Buy only software supported by more than one vendor as you can simply continue under another vendor when your current one disappears. Option 1 limits you in terms of innovation as large vendors are unlikely to come out first with sophisticated new stuff. Option 2 may be prohibitively expensive (in terms of initial source-code purchase and subsequent internal software maintenance.) Option 3 usually only works with software based on "open" standards. NeXT used to fit in none of these categories, making it a pretty risky proposition. Now, with the OpenStep specification and adoption of it by HP and Sun, NeXTSTEP software comes pretty close to fitting into "Option 3". So I think the risk of being dumped like a used tampon if you use NeXTSTEP is minimal - unless you depend heavily on the underlying Intel hardware, as I don't know whether HP or SUN would support that environment under their OpenStep implementation :-) ...but then, these are just my opinions, and they're probably worth what you paid for them :-) Tom +------------------------------------------+ | Thomas Wolf | (908) 957-3955 |...Still can't think of anything | Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@merlin.mt.att.com | original to put in my sig... | MT 4D-213 | wolf@jolt.mt.att.com |...So this valuable real-estate +------------------------------------------+ is for sale... Disclaimer: These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dynamic SLIP addresses & TransSys PNI 1.11 Date: 20 Aug 1994 06:36:12 GMT Organization: TransSys, Inc., Nitwittery Eradication Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <LOUIE.94Aug20023613@wa3ymh.transsys.com> References: <32rl4u$h5g@cedar.mr.net> <lcs.2.00170BF0@shore.net> In-reply-to: lcs@shore.net's message of Thu, 18 Aug 1994 23:02:38 In article <lcs.2.00170BF0@shore.net> lcs@shore.net (Harold Leach) writes: >(a) The routes are messed up. PNI sets two routes based on >ADDRESS and REMOTEADDRESS - both of which are wrong. >Even worse, the routes are set at the start of the whole process >so things start out wrong. Yes, the script really ought to delete the old routes, but the dynamic SLIP address stuff is already a kludge.. >Even specifying pni:DEFAULT as 0 to control default routing does >no good. (Didn't really expect it to though.) This controls adding a default route out the SLIP interface, and nothing about dynamic IP addresses. I use PNI with a Zoom modem too, and I got it working after a couple of days of tweaking. Are you using the command exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 inet $1 {your slip server's address} netmask {your netmask} in your login- .tcl file? This sets the dynamic slip address. (BTW, $1 is the variable which holds my dynamic ip address obtained each time I log on to the slip server). Of course, the very important point you left out was that the $1 variable was set by doing a regular expression match on the incoming text stream, where the first grouped pattern, using '(' and ')' characters, matches the IP address. $1 isn't magic! Look at the login-annex.tcl script for an example of how you might use this. This isn't really well documented, because it really is a kludge. The right way to do this is in-band, like what is done in PPP, but PNI doesn't support PPP. -- Louis A. Mamakos TransSys, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: anderson (Ken Anderson) Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Message-ID: <1994Aug20.043542.5388@biztech.com> Sender: news@biztech.com Organization: Biztech, Inc. References: <32t7dn$f7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 04:35:42 GMT > I heard no NeXT employee at the Expo say that NS 3.3 would not be >available for black hardware, so I feel certain that it will. It will be >only a user version, no developer. > What's unclear to me, though, is whether the Foundation classes now >part of the EOF beta will be included in a shlib with 3.3 user or whether >EOF, an extra-cost option, will be required to be able to use the >Foundation class library. I'd like to be able to use Foundation classes >in non-EOF apps. Will this be possible? >--- Art, NEXTSTEP 3.3 will include the FoundationKit shlib on the normal user release. Ken Anderson SHL Systemhouse a project along with each project, but it doesn't. Ken Anderson SHL Systemhouse
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,com.sys.next.software From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Subject: Networking NeXTstation with PowerMac 7100 Message-ID: <Cut2r1.pp@blackmaus.com> Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc. Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 23:33:01 GMT I have NO clue as to what to do. All I know is that both my NeXTstation TurboColor and my PowerMac 7100 have built in Ethernet hardware. So I got a 10BaseT transciever for the PowerMac and used RJ-45 cable to hook them up. What do I have to set on my NeXT to be able to share devices (hard drives, removables, etc.) and files? Any pointers for a NeXT newtworking rookie? You can either reply to me email or thru news. Thanks. --- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325 dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) PGP key available on request. -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ? Message-ID: <1994Aug19.051357.25362@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 19 Aug 94 05:13:57 MDT References: <Cuq6ts.6rD@news2.new-york.net> Organization: As little as I can get away with... In article <Cuq6ts.6rD@news2.new-york.net>, A Humble Treestump <root@net23.com> wrote: >I am experiencing a problem with the afformentioned cryptobundle >replacement for mail.app, and pgp... > >I want to use this to send email messages to people without nextmail... >But when I send an encrypted message, even in normal text mode, the result >is a message with a uuencoded tar attachment... > >Is their anyway to make this cryptobundle send out plain ascii text >encrypted messages? > >Thanks. Please mail me with replies. > >Nick > > >-- >Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider >razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area >Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" >Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info >To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com For this you need NXPGP.app. Compose the message and encrypt in place. You also need it to decrypt messages sent by mere mortal mailers. :) Now, how does one incorporate encryption into Workspace Manager? (Vote for pgp support in Opener.app now!)
From: kitana!sysop@caprica.com (JL Gomez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.3 for Intel when? Date: 21 Aug 1994 12:02:06 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199408211631.AA00245@kitana.org> I've heard through a friend that NeXT will release new version of their OS for Intel. Does anyone know the scheduled release date? Also, will there be an educational price? Thanks for the info! -- sysop@kitana.org
From: spanda@checuolo.org (Spanda Kala Bhavani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: expect/tcl cron problems Date: 19 Aug 1994 21:24:34 GMT Organization: CERFnet Message-ID: <3337ui$9dv@news.cerf.net> Keywords: expect tcl cron pty I am having a problem running an "expect" script under cron. I got the software from cs orst.edu with a revision of 1.1 and a tcl version of 6.7. The basic deal is that the script runs properly under a shell, but when it is run under cron, spawning seems to behave wierdly. I was told it could be a pty problem, but I am unqualified to be debugging expect code in order to find out for sure. Is anybody else having this problem ???? billh@burn.ucsd.edu spanda@checuolo.org
From: spanda@checuolo.org (Spanda Kala Bhavani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: expect/tcl cron problems Date: 19 Aug 1994 21:26:37 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <33382d$9ea@news.cerf.net> Keywords: expect tcl cron I am having a problem running an "expect" script under cron. I got the software from cs orst.edu with a revision of 1.1 and a tcl version of 6.7. The basic deal is that the script runs properly under a shell, but when it is run under cron, spawning seems to behave wierdly. I was told it could be a pty problem, but I am unqualified to be debugging expect code in order to find out for sure. Is anybody else having this problem ???? billh@burn.ucsd.edu spanda@checuolo.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: NeXT to DOS/Windows Connection? Message-ID: <CuwC4n.9D6@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Summary: What is the preferred way (low cost) of providing file/print/modem Keywords: NeXT DOS Windows Connection Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 17:48:23 GMT The objective is to use a NS Server providing file/print/modem services over an ethernet TCP/IP network to PCs running Windows 3.X. When suggesting a NFS package (either public or 3rd party) please identify a subset of supported PC Network cards and, if possible, the card of choice. If 3rd party solution, please include approximate price for software. If public domain, please identify the ftp site. Kindly reply by mail and I will summarize responses to the net. Thanks for you help. --Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep and OS2 Date: 21 Aug 1994 20:20:26 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA) Message-ID: <338cua$a0k@news.iastate.edu> References: <CuGIy9.8pM@eskimo.com> <32o46p$t5@rosie.next.com> In article <32o46p$t5@rosie.next.com>, Joe Keenan <Joe_Keenan@next.com> wrote: >The short answer is, it just works. Put DOS/Win in a primary >partition, NS in a primary partition, and OS/2 in a logical partition. >Put the OS/2 Boot manager in the last primary partition. > >You can use Boot Manager to select any of the three partitions to boot. >Depending on the order you do the installs, you might get weirdness in >terms of multiple boot selectors. But it does work. In order to access the DOS partition on NeXTSTEP, put the DOS partition at first and NS at second, then put other OS' partitions at last. Hope this help. -- NeXTMail super welcomed!!| Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software." chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science <:)>:)<:)>:)<:)>:)<:) | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: charris@bu.edu (Catherine Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: deleted Headers by mistake Date: 22 Aug 1994 01:35:32 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <338vd4$140@news.bu.edu> Hi. By mistake I deleted the directory /NextDeveloper/Headers. I'm running Nextstep 3.0 on a NextStation. Would someone who has the directory be willing to tar it and email it to me? Should email to this account -- charris@bu.edu (which is not nextmail). Thanks a bunch. (I'll post a follow-up note to signal that I no longer need a good samaritan to volunteer to help me out.) -Cathy
From: murshid@unit.edu (murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Novice support in Los Angeles Date: 22 Aug 1994 05:34:35 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <339ddb$irr@news.cerf.net> Keywords: Los Angeles novice user's group I am novice user looking for NeXT support with possible exchange to offer for the service. I also understand that novice support can be supplied by going a NeXT users' group. Is there a NeXT users' group near UCLA ? (University of California at Los Angles). The reason why I ask is that my office is near UCLA. Who would I contact to get in touch with a novice users' group in my area ? Email responses welcome. Sarah Nell spanda@checulolo.org
From: murshid@unit.edu (murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Novice support in Los Angeles (with an email correction) Date: 22 Aug 1994 05:47:18 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <339e57$j15@news.cerf.net> Keywords: novice users' group Los Angeles I am novice user looking for NeXT support with possible exchange to offer for the service. I also understand that novice support can be supplied by going a NeXT users' group. Is there a NeXT users' group near UCLA ? (University of California at Los Angles). The reason why I ask is that my office is near UCLA. Who would I contact to get in touch with a novice users' group in my area ? Email responses welcome. Sarah Nell spanda@checuolo.org murshid@unit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CuxyL4.FMG@txnews.amd.com> Followup-To: What.a.ding.dong Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 14:51:02 GMT In article <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin (Thomas Wolf) posts to: Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.nex t.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Thomas, Think you've got enough newsgroups crossposted here? On second thought, why don't you post to every newsgroup on the Usenet? -- personal opinions
From: dguthrie@fsight2.com (Don Guthrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Booting in SU mode Date: 22 Aug 1994 15:44:02 GMT Organization: Metrix Interlink Corporation Message-ID: <33ah42$arm@ns.RezoNet.NET> I need to boot my next in single user mode so that I can change my root password that I have forgotten. What is the sequence to take to boot the NeXT (Cube) in su mode so I may do this? Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: wright@encmail.encompass.com (Jeff Wright) Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Aug22.154718.8412@glv.cen.encompass.com> Sender: usenet@glv.cen.encompass.com Organization: Encompass References: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> Distribution: inet Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:47:18 GMT > There are three ways you can minimize your risk: > > 1. Only buy your software from large companies unlikely to go > bankrupt (e.g. Microsoft, AT&T, IBM, etc.) and unlikely to discontinue > a product. I believe that large companies are at least as likely to suddenly discontinue products as small companies, if not more so. I'm not talking about bankruptcy, but about just discontinuing products due to not fitting some new business strategy. Large companies seem to take the attitude they can afford the bad will, or that they can offer a migration path, or whatever. --jeff wright
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Message-ID: <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 19:31:31 GMT In article <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes: > > You might want to ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/PGP_FAQ. It appears > that as of v2.6, PGP is now licensed for non-commercial use in the > US. However, as a condition of the license, RSA Data Security, Inc. > insisted that PGP v2.6 include some non-functional incompatabilities > with older versions in order to force everyone to upgrade. The The next version of CryptorBundle will correct some bugs and (hopefully) some incompatibiliy with NeXT-Mail-3.3. I'm not sure if it's wise to use PGP-2.6, because of the incompatibilities: Users of the new bundle will be able to decrypt messages from the old bundle, but users who still have the old bundle will no longer be able to read mails from the new bundle. What do the people here think about that ? Do you want a "legally clean" version of the bundle, accepting that users who don't upgrade will have problems ? Or would it be better to use PGP-2.3a for the next bundle (the standard here in Europe). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de Brooks's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Scsi Disks >1gig with Nextstep? Date: 22 Aug 1994 19:16:12 GMT Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding. Message-ID: <33aths$let@garuda.csulb.edu> References: <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk> <32vaic$e3m@news.doit.wisc.edu> <331tmu$ct8@news.acns.nwu.edu> <332ss1$125o@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> And System Administrator<sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca> spake unto the masses: >Ok, Anyone installed these monster 9 GB drives yet? Well, we've got one sitting here, but we havent formatted it yet. Can you forward me any replies you get regardin the 9gig drives? We're trying to decide how to format it now. Thanks. -- ___ /\__\ Ryan L. Watkins email: vamp@csulb.edu \/__/ Academic Computing Services url : http://www.csulb.edu/~vamp/ NeXTstep California State University at Long Beach --- Network Support
From: carl@skatter.usask.ca (Carl Norum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PostScript Date: 22 Aug 1994 19:15:34 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <33atgm$qd5@tribune.usask.ca> I need a postscript viewr that is better than Preview or Yap. Please E-Mail me. CJN
From: fleice@atticview.Corp.Sun.COM (Mike Fleice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Technical Writers needed, Sun, Mt. CA Date: 22 Aug 1994 19:14:27 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <33atej$g26@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> Sun is looking for experienced technical writers (full-time, regular employment), who are conversant in C++/Object oriented software. This position will be responsible for documenting application tools for commercial applications. We are looking for self-starters who work well in a team environment. You should have 3+ years industry experience documenting software in a UNIX environment. Please send your resume to: Mike Fleice(TWR), SUN, 2550 Garcia Ave. M.S. MTV 04-116, Mt. View, CA 94043; Fax (415) 336-4888
From: resumes@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT: Temp Pre-release positions available Date: 22 Aug 1994 19:43:08 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <33av4c$2l0@rosie.next.com> The Pre-Release program of NeXT's Software Quality department is now hiring for several full-time temporary positions in Redwood City. NeXT Computer Inc 900 Chesapeake Drive Redwood City - CA 94063 FAX: (415)780-4554 resumes@next.com This job has these benefits, among others: First-hand access to the most current versions of NEXTSTEP Experience using new hardware running NEXTSTEP Furthering your knowledge of NEXTSTEP The job description is as follows: Process incoming bugs and suggestions from NEXTSTEP customers Verify (try to duplicate) bug reports Communicate with customers to get further information Submit bug reports to NeXT's Software Engineering team Assist with distribution of Pre-Release software to sites Customer support (installation and configuration issues) General assistance within the Pre-Release Team Requirements: 1 or more years hands-on experience with NEXTSTEP Have good verbal and written communication skills Be well organized and detail-oriented Be a fast learner Preferred: NEXTSTEP programming experience NEXTSTEP and other networking experience Experience using commercial NEXTSTEP software Important note: These positions are at NeXT headquarters in Redwood City, CA. Moving and housing expenses will not be reimbursed. Please email (ASCII, RTF or PostScript), fax or mail your resume to: NeXT Computer Inc 900 Chesapeake Drive Redwood City - CA 94063 FAX: (415)780-4554 resumes@next.com
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTstep for HP shipping(?) Date: 23 Aug 1994 01:28:55 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <33bjcn$fur@ftp-p.mccaw.com> PC Week reports (Aug. 22, p. 3, brief mention in "Briefly Noted") that NeXTstep/HP is now shipping. It's really strange that we haven't seen more press (and a net announcement) for this. Can someone _truly_ confirm this? (i.e. you actually bought it and have received it, as opposed to beta release, or have ordered but not received.) -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com 12205 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 living in the Seattle area and loving it (NeXTmail/MIME spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTstep for HP shipping(?) Date: 23 Aug 1994 03:00:44 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <33boos$1km@sundog.tiac.net> References: <33bjcn$fur@ftp-p.mccaw.com> In article <33bjcn$fur@ftp-p.mccaw.com> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) writes: > >PC Week reports (Aug. 22, p. 3, brief mention in "Briefly Noted") >that NeXTstep/HP is now shipping. It's really strange that we >haven't seen more press (and a net announcement) for this. Can >someone _truly_ confirm this? (i.e. you actually bought it and >have received it, as opposed to beta release, or have ordered but >not received.) Yes, it is shipping. The final NS/HP 3.2 user and developer release arrived this morning (22nd) at my doorstep. The ship date on the box is marked Aug. 18th. vroom, -- |: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :| |: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
From: oscara@aol.com (OscarA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 for Intel when? Date: 22 Aug 1994 23:06:08 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <33bp30$n3d@search01.news.aol.com> References: <199408211631.AA00245@kitana.org> In article <199408211631.AA00245@kitana.org>, kitana!sysop@caprica.com (JL Gomez) writes: November 1994. Upgrade price $199.
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTstep for HP shipping(?) Date: 23 Aug 1994 06:27:33 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <33c4sl$kj0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <33bjcn$fur@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <33boos$1km@sundog.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) writes: > Yes, it is shipping. The final NS/HP 3.2 user and developer release > arrived this morning (22nd) at my doorstep. The ship date on the box > is marked Aug. 18th. The question is: will we be able to put the HP 3.2 developer on black/white 3.2 systems to get the new compiler and other goodies? Marcel
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 22 Aug 1994 22:58:50 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <33bola$q1h@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ or http://digifix.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- news://comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news://comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. news://comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news://comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news://comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news://comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news://comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news://comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news://comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news://comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. 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From: d89cb@efd.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Date: 23 Aug 1994 09:55:15 GMT Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden Message-ID: <33ch23$ol7@nic.lth.se> References: <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> In article <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) writes: >The next version of CryptorBundle will correct some bugs and (hopefully) >some incompatibiliy with NeXT-Mail-3.3. I'm not sure if it's wise to use >PGP-2.6, because of the incompatibilities: Users of the new bundle will >be able to decrypt messages from the old bundle, but users who still have >the old bundle will no longer be able to read mails from the new bundle. > >What do the people here think about that ? Do you want a "legally clean" >version of the bundle, accepting that users who don't upgrade will have >problems ? Or would it be better to use PGP-2.3a for the next bundle (the >standard here in Europe). The "Standard here in Europe" has changed, from pgp-2.3a to pgp-2.6ui, which is based on pgp-2.3a, but compatible with MIT pgp-2.6 (the "ui" stands for "unofficial international") -- that is, it produces messages that can be read by MIT pgp 2.6 even after the September 1 deadline, but is available outside of the US. Sticking with pgp-2.3a would be the wrong thing to do, IMHO. > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Thomas Funke thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de > >Brooks's Law: > Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later >------------------------------------------------------------------
From: davidwr@dip.eecs.umich.edu (David Richardson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 for Intel when? Date: 23 Aug 1994 13:35:15 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <33ctuj$l6h@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <199408211631.AA00245@kitana.org> <33bp30$n3d@search01.news.aol.com> OscarA (oscara@aol.com) wrote: : November 1994. Upgrade price $199. 11/15, according to NeXT. There will be no 3.3 deveopement kit - it is unecessary - the 3.2 dev. kit will work just fine under 3.3, as will apps made under it (duh!). There will (I assume) be a new dev. kit with 4.0. SoundBlaster fans - there will be an EISA soundblaster driver soon, and an ISA one on 11/15 (I don't know if the ISA one will work or be free to 3.2 & under users though - I hope so - wait & see). -- -David W. Richardson, davidwr@umich.edu UofM-GO BLUE! 2305 Georgetown, Ann Arbor, MI 48105 +1 313 741 1367 <-- New addr/phone 5/1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com Subject: Re: NeXTstep for HP shipping(?) Message-ID: <Cuzs5n.By5@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <33bjcn$fur@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 14:27:21 GMT In article <33bjcn$fur@ftp-p.mccaw.com> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) writes: >> >>PC Week reports (Aug. 22, p. 3, brief mention in "Briefly Noted") >>that NeXTstep/HP is now shipping. It's really strange that we >>haven't seen more press (and a net announcement) for this. Can >>someone _truly_ confirm this? (i.e. you actually bought it and >>have received it, as opposed to beta release, or have ordered but >>not received.) >> I've been hearing the term "gamma release" thrown around. What's that ? Is that what's shipping ? -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com
From: Thorr-kan, the White Minotaur, and Horde Father-Confessor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.forsale.computers.workstation Subject: REQUEST: Source for NeXT spare parts Date: 23 Aug 1994 14:06:16 GMT Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College Distribution: world Message-ID: <33cvooINN1vg@news.gac.edu> I realize this may be posted to inappropriate groups, but I am a bit desperate. I would appreciate any phone numbers and addresses for companies that still sell NeXT parts for monitors, printers, stations, and keyboards. We have a large number of stations on campus and no longer have a source for hardware. Recently, several have failed. The problems have been IDed, but we can't replace the parts! Any replies should be e-mailed to bidwell@gac.edu or mcutter@gac.edu. I usually don't have the time to keep up with these groups. Thanks. -Matt C. guardian- 1. one who has care of a person or property. 2. In other words, someone who puts their ass between others and danger. ********************************************************************* Nuke 'til they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark! Matt Cutter, e-mail to mcutter@nic.gac.edu OR mcutter@vax2.gac.edu Gustavus couldn't afford my opinions if they wanted them! *********************************************************************
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTstep for HP shipping(?) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 12:26:16 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <siKWAcS00iV2Q2AQYn@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cuzs5n.By5@txnews.amd.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 23-Aug-94 Re: NeXTstep for HP shippin.. by Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com > I've been hearing the term "gamma release" thrown around. What's that ? Is > that what's shipping ? Terminology: pre-alpha: The product doesn't work at all, but is a "proof-of-concept" and may be demoable under very controlled circumstances. alpha: The product doesn't work in general, but is demoable and may even be usable for real work. Feature set up in the air. beta (also called a 1.0 release :-): The product works in general, but presumably has bugs and doesn't work for all cases; usable for real work. Feature set pretty well established, but a few (hopefully minor) things may change. gamma: This is considered a pre-production release that is supposed to work in general. The feature set is frozen, and this will become the production release unless significant bugs are discovered with it. Also, documentation may not be finalized. This version is used to do the final testing before saying that the product is out the door. -------- In general, there is usually no significant differences between the gamma release and the full production release, and they are often the same (assuming the gamma release didn't have any noticable problems). I don't know whether NeXT's gamma release of NEXTSTEP/HP is the same as the production release, but they are likely to be very close if they actually are different at all. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wright@encmail.encompass.com (Jeff Wright) Subject: launch 2nd copy of an app? Message-ID: <1994Aug23.160733.22892@glv.cen.encompass.com> Sender: usenet@glv.cen.encompass.com Organization: Encompass Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 16:07:33 GMT Well, this is probably a faq, but I couldn't find it... Is there a way to launch a second copy of an app? I use a database application that supports only a single database connection, and it would be nice to be able to launch a second copy connected to a different database. Other than making a copy of the app, or using a non-NeXT tool like BackManager, is there any other way to accomplish this? --jeff wright
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: raw floppy access on NeXT cube? Date: 23 Aug 1994 14:06:02 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu Distribution: usa Message-ID: <33ddqa$beh@acmex.gatech.edu> Summary: want to get to floppy without Workspace interference I'm posting this for a friend. If you hav a reply, email him at mark.reed@sward.com DO NOT REPLY TO ME =============================================================== I have a NeXT monochrome cube running 3.0beta. I would like to be able to read and write floppy disks as raw bits without interference from the Workspace Manager. The problem is that when I insert a disk that doesn't have a Unix, Mac, or DOS filesystem on it, the WM asks me if I want to format or eject it, unless it's write protected, in which case it just gets ejected automatically. I have gone into the WM Preferences and selected "Do Nothing" for "When a removable disk is encountered", but this didn't help. The only workaround I've found is to mount a floppy that does have a filesystem and leave the mount entry in place while swapping floppies (I wrote a program to send the eject ioctl call manually so I can eject floppies without umounting the fs first). Does anyone have any better suggestions? (Besides switching to PC hardware . . .) Please respond via email if you do . . . Thanks! REMEMBER: reply to mark.reed@sware.com -- Mark J. Reed Email: mark.reed@sware.com - Voice: +1 404 315 6296 x58 - Fax: +1 404 315 0293 SecureWare, Inc. / 2957 Clairmont Rd Suite 200 / Atlanta GA 30329-1647 -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: jburka@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep and OS2 Date: 23 Aug 1994 18:36:39 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <33dfjn$pq3@mojo.eng.umd.edu> References: <CuGIy9.8pM@eskimo.com> <32o46p$t5@rosie.next.com> <338cua$a0k@news.iastate.edu> In article <338cua$a0k@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: >In article <32o46p$t5@rosie.next.com>, Joe Keenan <Joe_Keenan@next.com> wrote: > >>The short answer is, it just works. Put DOS/Win in a primary >>partition, NS in a primary partition, and OS/2 in a logical partition. >>Put the OS/2 Boot manager in the last primary partition. >In order to access the DOS partition on NeXTSTEP, put the DOS partition >at first and NS at second, then put other OS' partitions at last. I'm not trying to access a FAT logical partition on the drive that has OS/2 and NS (I've got a second HD on my computer) but I can attest that the following worked for me: Use OS/2's fdisk to add the bootmanager partition first, and the OS/2 partition second. Leave all of the freespace after the OS/2 partition unparititoned. After the OS/2 installation, when you try to run the NS installation, the software will ask if you want to use the free space at the end of the driver for NEXTSTEP. Go ahead and do this. Now when you turn on the machine, you'll get NS's OS selector, which I don't like as much as bootmanager. To get bootmanager back, use the DOS command "fdisk /mbr" to restore the dos master boot record. I don't believe the OS/2 fdisk has this switch available. Finally, use OS/2's fdisk to give a name to your NS partition and add it to the bootmanager window. Really, it's not nearly as much work as it sounds, and it's working quite well for me. Jeff -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | Pithy, insightful quote to be inserted | | | when one occurs to me. *If* one occurs | |jeffy@eng.umd.edu | to me. |
From: resumes@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT: Temp Driver Tester Position Date: 23 Aug 1994 19:39:52 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <33dja8$4bs@rosie.next.com> NeXT Computer Inc., located in Redwood City, is currently searching for a Driver Tester for our latest product release. This is a temporary position paying $15.00 per hour for 6 weeks. NeXT develops and markets object oriented programming solutions that produces mission critical custom applications for Fortune 1000 customers. If you are interested, please send your resume using the following mediums. If you know of persons who may fit this description, please tell them about this ad or forward the contents through e-mail. Thank you, Staffing Manager NeXT Computer Inc. "resumes@next.com" Fax to Rick Wolfe at 415-780-4554 Or use direct mail: Hardware Lab Supervisor Rick Wolfe NeXT Computer Inc. 900 Chesapeake Drive Redwood City, CA 94063 ************************************************************************** Position: Device Driver Test Technician Department: Software Engineering, Quality Assurance Hiring Manager: Rick Wolfe x-3791 (full/part)-time: full-time Major area of responsibility PC system configuration, test execution, results reporting Specific Responsibilities PC system configuration and software installation Execute test suites Document configuration information and test results for distribution via the NeXTanswers automated document retrieval system Minimum Qualifications and Background PC configuration experience (VGA/CGA/EGA, ISA/EISA, DMA/IRQ's, etc...) able to work with others good communications skills (both written and verbal) problem solving/troubleshooting skills demonstrated ability to learn and grow independantly (picks things up on his/her own) should be able to know when to ask questions and either know or learn where to look for more info Additional Qualifications that would be beneficial BS in computer science or equivalent experience UNIX user experience Netware/UNIX Networking administration experience Data Base Administration (DBA) experience NEXTSTEP user experience Shell/C programming experience. ************************************************************************** "resumes@next.com" Fax to Rick Wolfe at 415-780-4554 Or use direct mail: Hardware Lab Supervisor Rick Wolfe NeXT Computer Inc. 900 Chesapeake Drive Redwood City, CA 94063 NeXT Computer Inc. 900 Chesapeake Drive Redwood City, CA 94063
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: raw floppy access on NeXT cube? Message-ID: <Cv06sr.G5p@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <33ddqa$beh@acmex.gatech.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 19:43:38 GMT In article <33ddqa$beh@acmex.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) writes: > I'm posting this for a friend. If you hav a reply, email him at > mark.reed@sward.com DO NOT REPLY TO ME > =============================================================== > > I have a NeXT monochrome cube running 3.0beta. I would like to be able to > read and write floppy disks as raw bits without interference from the > Workspace Manager. The problem is that when I insert a disk that doesn't > have a Unix, Mac, or DOS filesystem on it, the WM asks me if I want to format or > eject it, unless it's write protected, in which case it just gets ejected > automatically. > > I have gone into the WM Preferences and selected "Do Nothing" for > "When a removable disk is encountered", but this didn't help. The only > workaround I've found is to mount a floppy that does have a filesystem and > leave the mount entry in place while swapping floppies (I wrote a program > to send the eject ioctl call manually so I can eject floppies without > umounting the fs first). > > Does anyone have any better suggestions? (Besides switching to PC hardware > . . .) Please respond via email if you do . . . Thanks! > > REMEMBER: reply to mark.reed@sware.com I'll reply here instead. Try in a Terminal: tar -cvf /dev/rfd0a whatever-you-want-to-tar If I remember correctly, you'll get a Panel asking you to insert the disk. -- personal opinions
From: sailer@a4430edc.esr.hp.com (Lee Sailer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTstep for HP shipping(?) Date: 23 Aug 1994 20:03:31 GMT Organization: HP Educational Services Organization Distribution: usa Message-ID: <33dkmj$90f@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <siKWAcS00iV2Q2AQYn@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 23-Aug-94 Re: NeXTstep for HP > shippin.. by Ronald.Pomeroy@amd.com > > I've been hearing the term "gamma release" thrown around. What's that ? Is > > that what's shipping ? > Terminology: I talked to one of the NS/PA developers about this very topic once. here are his definitions: > pre-alpha: The product doesn't work at all, but is a "proof-of-concept" > and may be demoable under very controlled circumstances. > alpha: The product doesn't work in general, but is demoable and may even > be usable for real work. Feature set up in the air. In the case of NS/PA, the term alpha meant that developers were using it for real work. Demo copies were shown to the public. > beta (also called a 1.0 release :-): The product works in general, but > presumably has bugs and doesn't work for all cases; usable for real > work. Feature set pretty well established, but a few (hopefully minor) > things may change. Others got copies. The mechanism for collecting bug reports was started. > gamma: This is considered a pre-production release that is supposed to > work in general. The feature set is frozen, and this will become the > production release unless significant bugs are discovered with it. > Also, documentation may not be finalized. This version is used to do > the final testing before saying that the product is out the door. > -------- > In general, there is usually no significant differences between the > gamma release and the full production release, and they are often the > same (assuming the gamma release didn't have any noticable problems). I > don't know whether NeXT's gamma release of NEXTSTEP/HP is the same as > the production release, but they are likely to be very close if they > actually are different at all. I don't *know* if they were the same, but I think they were. > -Chuck > Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, > --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of > AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." > NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi-- -- lee
From: yanko@inf.utfsm.cl (Sebastian Herrera O.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for some www-pages on NS/OS Date: 23 Aug 1994 18:08:28 -0400 Organization: Informatika, UTFSM. Message-ID: <33ds0s$p0s@inti.inf.utfsm.cl> hi, if you know some interesting www pages on (or related to) NS, could you please email'me them..? I've got my hands on mosaic for the first time, and would love to see some NS stuff somewhere... thanks, yanko pd: I said, please mail me...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki) Subject: Re: Dynamic SLIP addresses & TransSys PNI 1.11 Message-ID: <1994Aug23.215817.21496@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <LOUIE.94Aug20023613@wa3ymh.transsys.com> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 21:58:17 GMT In article <LOUIE.94Aug20023613@wa3ymh.transsys.com> louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) writes: > In article <lcs.2.00170BF0@shore.net> lcs@shore.net (Harold Leach) writes: > > >(a) The routes are messed up. PNI sets two routes based on > >ADDRESS and REMOTEADDRESS - both of which are wrong. > >Even worse, the routes are set at the start of the whole process > >so things start out wrong. > > Yes, the script really ought to delete the old routes, but the dynamic SLIP > address stuff is already a kludge.. I wrote the following script that really nicely purges the old routes for dynamic IP adddressing. Sorry for the messy state of the script, but I'm not a guru :-)... ----- FUNCTION BELOW FROM /etc/pni/config/pni0.config ----- proc LINK_stop { encap } { log "LINK $encap disconnected" exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 down log "Interface pni0 brought down" set local [exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 | /bin/awk {/inet/ { printf ("%s", $2) }}] set remote [exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 | /bin/awk {/inet/ { printf ("%s", $4) }}] exec /etc/route delete $remote $local exec /etc/route delete $local localhost log "Routing tables purged" } ----- CUT ABOVE AND INSERT INTO /etc/pni/config/pni0.config ----- > > >Even specifying pni:DEFAULT as 0 to control default routing does > >no good. (Didn't really expect it to though.) > > This controls adding a default route out the SLIP interface, and nothing about > dynamic IP addresses. > > I use PNI with a Zoom modem too, and I got it working after a couple of days > of tweaking. Are you using the command > > exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 inet $1 {your slip server's address} netmask > {your netmask} > > in your login- .tcl file? This sets the dynamic slip address. (BTW, $1 is > the variable which holds my dynamic ip address obtained each time I log on to > the slip server). > > Of course, the very important point you left out was that the $1 > variable was set by doing a regular expression match on the incoming > text stream, where the first grouped pattern, using '(' and ')' > characters, matches the IP address. $1 isn't magic! Look at the > login-annex.tcl script for an example of how you might use this. > > This isn't really well documented, because it really is a kludge. The > right way to do this is in-band, like what is done in PPP, but PNI > doesn't support PPP. > > > -- > Louis A. Mamakos > TransSys, Inc. -- Piotr Twarecki, M.Eng. B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: CD-Player and TOSHIBA XM-3401B CD drive? Message-ID: <1994Aug23.232717.216@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 23:27:17 GMT I have just bought a Toshiba XM-3401B CD-ROM drive. It works fine as a CD-ROM drive, but I intended to use it as well as a compact disk player using the CD-player application. The trouble is CD-player displays an error message saying "cannot open CD drive". Any idea what this is? Is any of you using CD-player with a Toshiba XM-3401B ? I am running NS 3,2 on black hardware. Thanks for your help PS The drive works fine in audio mode independently of the computer, but to do this I need to open the box and change a jumper, not very convenient! Also there is no control panel other than the eject button!
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: launch 2nd copy of an app? Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 00:28:39 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <1994Aug24.002839.1935@harka> References: <1994Aug23.160733.22892@glv.cen.encompass.com> Originator: HARKA@nice Jeff Wright (wright@encmail.encompass.com) wrote: > Is there a way to launch a second copy of an app? <Alternate>-<double-click> on the app's icon should do the trick. - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome)
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SLIPping away fast.... Date: 24 Aug 1994 01:52:40 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <33e958$21pt@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> HELP! HELP! I've sinned and I can't get up. I was so tickled when I bought a ZyXel and NXFax software. It installed with the click of a button. NXFax interrogated the modem, found out all about it (I say this because all kinds of model info appeared on screen), and did all the messy config work for me. I was happy. [soapbox on] Now I get the SLIP_920904 package and SLIPCommander, and am thrown back into the "low level days of my youth". I have to learn scripting languages, tweak various files, etc. Yes, I'm whining and proud of it! Does anyone have a simple help file for a standalone NeXT that is not on an ethernet and wants to have *one* SLIP connection, and use SLIPCommander. I'm using a ZyXel U-1496E modem, and am not using CSLIP or rlogin enabled. Thanks in advance for the info. Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Jacques Garbi Subject: Re: Scsi Disks >1gig with Nextstep? Message-ID: <CuxnIv.CC@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Touga Management SA, Switzerland References: <32vaic$e3m@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 10:52:07 GMT In article <32vaic$e3m@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes: > In article <1994Aug17.133245.210@datawell.demon.co.uk>, > Keith Pritchard <keith@datawell.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >The latest is that my micropolis 1.7 gig scsi hd may not work? Apparently > >nextstep doesnt like drives above 1 gig? has anyone got nextstep running > >with drives >1gig? > > I have a Micropolis 2217 (1.7GB) going fine, but it's on > black (NS 3.2). Wonderful drive, btw, the quietest I've > ever (not) heard. I have the exact same drive running fine on a Pentium machine. I had it running first on a 486/66, then a Pentium 60 and right now on a P90, all computers from Gateway 2000. I have an Adaptec 1542C and it works just fine. Just be sure what settings you have in your Adaptec Bios. -- Jacques GARBI TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd. Av. Davel 18 1004 Lausanne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: launch 2nd copy of an app? Message-ID: <1994Aug24.023852.1399@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <1994Aug24.002839.1935@harka> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 02:38:52 GMT > > Is there a way to launch a second copy of an app? >> <Alternate>-<double-click> on the app's icon should do the trick. alt-dclick on Edit icon in Dock does not do it on my m68 3.2; but alt-dclick on Edit icon in a file viewer does work. -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Best PCI-SCSI2-Pentium for NS? Message-ID: <jpanicoCv1FJ8.3x6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 11:49:56 GMT Hi, After months of wait and see, I am finally ready to the sign the check for a new NS machine. I would appreciated any suggestions for the best PERFORMANCE PCI-SCSI2-Pentium machine for NS. I need to be able to run OS/2 and linux on the same machine, so I cannot buy an HP gecko. Also, I'm only looking for machines that use components for which drivers are available now. Please do not confuse me by advocating a machine for which the drivers are in beta test or which are planned for Q3 (but noone has seen them). I am particularly interested in the big-brand-name machines: DEC, IBM, Compaq, etc. We have had good experience with these brands in the past. If you are are running NS on this type of machine, please mail me a description of your hardware. If you are a hardware vendor, mail me some quotes. Do not include monitors in the packages, because I already own a big monitor. Also, if you are trying to sell me a system, please only send quotes on machines that are shipping right now and for which ALL the drivers are available right now. I need to take shipment of this machine as soon as possible. Thanks for any information. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: Uwe Hoffmann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need help: Those with Kanji Version of NS Date: 24 Aug 1994 13:48:11 GMT Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <33fj2r$431@gate.fzi.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: Kanji For those with a Kanji version of NEXTSTEP. I need for a lecture in Japan the following two statements in Kanji: "Good day Ladies and Gentlemen" and "The lecture is finished". Probably as tiff (I don't think eps will work, because I don't have a Kanji font). Many thanks -- uwe....................................hoffmann@fzi.de (nextmail ok)
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: launch 2nd copy of an app? Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 14:19:59 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <1994Aug24.141959.620@harka> References: <1994Aug24.002839.1935@harka> <1994Aug24.023852.1399@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Originator: HARKA@nice Leif Smith (leif@pattern.rmnug.org) wrote: > alt-dclick on Edit icon in Dock does not do it on my m68 3.2; but > alt-dclick on Edit icon in a file viewer does work. It also doesn't work if you put Edit in your shelf, but you could use Fiend's Shelf and place Edit's icon somewhere on the background. If you alt-dclick on it there, it works (and you don't have to click your way to the next Edit-icon in you file viewer). - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome)
From: jbettis@cse.unl.edu (Jeremy Bettis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: CryptorBundle and "legal" PGP (long) Date: 24 Aug 1994 20:57:07 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <33gc73$pc9@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Aug21.193131.1919@gamelan.sh.sub.de> thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) writes: >In article <3303no$s8g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu >(John Devlin) writes: >> >> You might want to ftp net-dist.mit.edu:/pub/PGP/PGP_FAQ. It appears >> that as of v2.6, PGP is now licensed for non-commercial use in the >> US. However, as a condition of the license, RSA Data Security, Inc. >> insisted that PGP v2.6 include some non-functional incompatabilities >> with older versions in order to force everyone to upgrade. The >The next version of CryptorBundle will correct some bugs and (hopefully) >some incompatibiliy with NeXT-Mail-3.3. I'm not sure if it's wise to use >PGP-2.6, because of the incompatibilities: Users of the new bundle will >be able to decrypt messages from the old bundle, but users who still have >the old bundle will no longer be able to read mails from the new bundle. >What do the people here think about that ? Do you want a "legally clean" >version of the bundle, accepting that users who don't upgrade will have >problems ? Or would it be better to use PGP-2.3a for the next bundle (the >standard here in Europe). I would vote to use PGP 2.6. Not only is it legal, but it has several bugs fixed that were present in v2.3 and is all in all a superior product. I would hope that the next release of CryptorBundle will either take out the notice that it is distributed under the GPL, or follow through and include source code. If it had, we would not still be using pgp 2.2. Someone could of fixed it a long time ago. -- Jeremy Bettis -*- PGP Public key available -*- University of Nebraska INET: jbettis@cse.unl.edu "Those who stand in the middle of the UUCP: jeremy@tddi.UUCP,jeremy@hksys.com road are often hit by passing cars." Running Linux -- The Free Unix for i386/i486/Pentium machines. Ask me how.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: damonc@damonc.aetnacan Subject: Re: NeXTStep and OS2 Message-ID: <Cv23xA.F7E@aetnacan> Sender: usenet@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada References: <33dfjn$pq3@mojo.eng.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 20:36:45 GMT > After the OS/2 installation, when you try to run the NS installation, the > software will ask if you want to use the free space at the end of the > driver for NEXTSTEP. Go ahead and do this. How about installing OS/2 _AFTER_ NEXTSTEP? Anybody had any luck there?
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HP vs fast Pentium for NeXTstep Date: 24 Aug 1994 15:56:48 -0400 Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department Distribution: na Message-ID: <33g8m0$iue@condor.cs.jhu.edu> I'm planning to buy a few machines to run NeXTstep User with a locally developed software system. This system is floating point intensive and real time response is important. I'm trying to decide wether to go with Pentiums or HP machines. Which models of HP does NeXTstep run on? All 700's? How good is the NeXTstep port, will it run as reliably as NS on our Black hardware? I hesitate to buy Pentiums because I don't want to have to deal with idiosyncracies in drivers for this or that component. I'm hoping that the limited number of drivers need for a workstation with all of the pieces on the motherboard will mean the drivers will be more reliable. Am I deluding myself? Also, I'm unfamiliar with the HP line, does it have sound support? I use audio cues extensively in my software. Will they work on the HPs or will additional hardware be needed. Christopher D. Audley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Scsi Disks >1gig with Nextstep? Message-ID: <Cv0oHs.2Ju@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard) References: <CurLEq.6Bn@eskimo.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 02:05:51 GMT In article <CurLEq.6Bn@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: #Keith Pritchard (keith@datawell.demon.co.uk) wrote: #: The latest is that my micropolis 1.7 gig scsi hd may not work? Apparently #: nextstep doesnt like drives above 1 gig? has anyone got nextstep running #: with drives >1gig? # #You'll do fine, Keith. NS can work with partitions as large as 2 GB. #Larger drives must be multi-partitioned to accomodate this limitation. NS works fine with both the the Maxtor P0-12s (1.2 gig) and the Seagate ST41651N (1.4 gig). Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP and NEXTSTEP Developer for HP PA-Risc Workstations Ships Message-ID: <1994Aug25.065230.13471@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <33h2p7$bbn@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 06:52:30 GMT In article <33h2p7$bbn@digifix.digifix.com> Darren Smith <Darren_Smith@NeXT.COM> writes: >... > > NEXTSTEP AND NEXTSTEP DEVELOPER FOR HP'S PA-RISC-BASED > WORKSTATIONS SHIPS > > REDWOOD CITY, Calif.-August 17, 1994-NeXT Computer, Inc. and > Hewlett-Packard Company today announced the shipping of NEXTSTEP > and NEXTSTEP Developer Release 3.2 for HP's PA-RISC-based > workstations. NeXT's object-oriented operating system software isnow shipping for the HP 9000 Model 712, 715, 735 and 755 > workstations. The two companies' have targeted the financial > ... Hey, what's about my HP 725??? NSfHP beta runs very well! Only a typo, isn't it? Robert. -- _0 ,\ \ (*)/ ' Robert Fischer fischer@fokus.gmd.de /%%\(*) GMD-Fokus Research Institute for /%%%#%%\ Berlin, GERMANY Open Communication Systems /%###% %%##%#%%\___________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: NeXTStep and OS2 Message-ID: <jpanicoCv3D6M.57x@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <33dfjn$pq3@mojo.eng.umd.edu> <Cv23xA.F7E@aetnacan> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 12:54:22 GMT damonc@damonc.aetnacan wrote: : > After the OS/2 installation, when you try to run the NS installation, : the : > software will ask if you want to use the free space at the end of the : > driver for NEXTSTEP. Go ahead and do this. : How about installing OS/2 _AFTER_ NEXTSTEP? Anybody had any luck there? How about NS and OS/2 on separate HDs? Can the OS/2 boot manager still give the user choice of OS at boot time, or would I have to boot from floppy for one of the OSs? Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep and OS2 Date: 25 Aug 1994 13:25:41 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <33i64l$1at@rosie.next.com> References: <Cv23xA.F7E@aetnacan> In article <Cv23xA.F7E@aetnacan> damonc@damonc.aetnacan writes: > After the OS/2 installation, when you try to run the NS installation, > the software will ask if you want to use the free space at the end of > the driver for NEXTSTEP. Go ahead and do this. # How about installing OS/2 _AFTER_ NEXTSTEP? Anybody had any luck # there? Yeah, sure. It just works. Make sure you leave room for both your OS/2 partition and your Boot Manager partition. I've put the OS/2 root in a logical partition so it could still see the DOS primary partition. The only trick is that you'll probably want to switch back to the DOS silent booter so that you go right to the Boot Manager screen. joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,com.sys.next.software From: simsong@media.mit.edu (Simson L. Garfinkel) Subject: Has anybody gotten Bind to work on 3.2? Message-ID: <1994Aug25.124427.12785@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: self References: <Cut2r1.pp@blackmaus.com> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 12:44:27 GMT Has anybody gotten Please followup directly to me, and I will summarize. simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: raw floppy access on NeXT cube? Message-ID: <1994Aug25.212421.25266@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. References: <Cv06sr.G5p@txnews.amd.com> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 21:24:21 GMT In article <Cv06sr.G5p@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > In article <33ddqa$beh@acmex.gatech.edu> gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) > writes: > > I'm posting this for a friend. If you hav a reply, email him at > > mark.reed@sward.com DO NOT REPLY TO ME > > =============================================================== > > > > I have a NeXT monochrome cube running 3.0beta. I would like to be able to > > read and write floppy disks as raw bits without interference from the > > Workspace Manager. The problem is that when I insert a disk that doesn't > > have a Unix, Mac, or DOS filesystem on it, the WM asks me if I want to format > or > > eject it, unless it's write protected, in which case it just gets ejected > > automatically. > > > > I have gone into the WM Preferences and selected "Do Nothing" for > > "When a removable disk is encountered", but this didn't help. The only > > workaround I've found is to mount a floppy that does have a filesystem and > > leave the mount entry in place while swapping floppies (I wrote a program > > to send the eject ioctl call manually so I can eject floppies without > > umounting the fs first). > > > > Does anyone have any better suggestions? (Besides switching to PC hardware > > . . .) Please respond via email if you do . . . Thanks! > > > > REMEMBER: reply to mark.reed@sware.com > > I'll reply here instead. > > Try in a Terminal: > > tar -cvf /dev/rfd0a whatever-you-want-to-tar > > If I remember correctly, you'll get a Panel > asking you to insert the disk. > -- > personal opinions NO* /dev/rfd0a start after the disk label use /dev/rfd0b which starts at block 0 and after to eject your disk type /etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0b Hope that helps Fabieb -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help Date: 25 Aug 1994 21:40:28 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <33j34c$skb@news.tamu.edu> This is seriously off-topic, but is anyone out there interested in chatting by email? I'm in desperate need of having my mailbox overflow (or at least not remain completely empty) at the moment. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jlu@cs.umr.edu (Eric Jui-Lin Lu) Subject: MouseX and NS3.2 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 22:41:54 GMT Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration) Message-ID: <1994Aug25.224154.26851@umr.edu> Hi *, I just installed MouseX, obtained from cs.orst.edu, on NS 3.2. So far, I have no problem to start X. I can also cmd-cmd-* to switch back to NeXTstep from X. However, I cannot cmd-sht-X back to X. Did I miss anything? I'm running NS3.2 and MouseX on Color Nextstation. (I don't know if I have an ADB keyboard or not.) Thanks!! --Eric -- ***************************************--- Grad. student ---* * Obviousness is always the enemy of * \ Jui-Lin Lu (Eric) / * * correctness. -- Bertrand Russell * / jlu@cs.umr.edu \ * ***************************************--- Univ. of Missouri-Rolla ---*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: slfink@netcom.com (Steven Finkelman) Subject: decoding NEXT-ATTACH file Message-ID: <slfinkCv4xyH.FDq@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 09:20:40 GMT can someone help me translate a MIME mail NEXT-ATTACH sound file to a .wav or .voc file. File created on a next to be read on a PC. I have METAMAIl and mmunpack. I dont have the file formats or a translator from NEXT to wav or voc. any help would greatly appreciated...... Tia -- Steven Finkelman DATA/Massage slfink@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: seanb@synnet.com (Sean Brunnock) Subject: Re: Help Message-ID: <seanb-2608940927170001@seanbs_mac.synnet.com> Sender: news@pau.synnet.com (News Administration) Organization: 3Com Switching Division References: <33j34c$skb@news.tamu.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 13:27:17 GMT In article <33j34c$skb@news.tamu.edu>, lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) wrote: > This is seriously off-topic, but is anyone out there interested > in chatting by email? I'm in desperate need of having my mailbox > overflow (or at least not remain completely empty) at the moment. > > Lusty > -- > So fine she was, > so soft, so silky-coated- > Her very mew had quality! > -Jean de la Fontaine Did you try posting an article to alt.personals.ads? Sean Brunnock
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help Date: 26 Aug 1994 13:39:05 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <33kr9p$6fu@news.duke.edu> References: <33j34c$skb@news.tamu.edu> Lusty Wench writes > > This is seriously off-topic, but is anyone out there interested > in chatting by email? I'm in desperate need of having my mailbox > overflow (or at least not remain completely empty) at the moment. Looks like Lusty went off and left her workstation unattended for awhile without locking the screen! (A lesson I learned long ago...) Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: wich1820@maynard.ww.tu-berlin.de (Thorsten Wichmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: [Q]: Dell Optiplex and ET4000W32 Date: 26 Aug 1994 13:47:03 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <33kron$7rm@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> I have a Dell Optiplex 466/L with a TsengLabs ET4000/W32i 2MB Local-Bus Video running NEXTStep now for half a year very reliably. But: Black and white 2Bit 1078x768 only. When starting the system with the ET4000SVGA- Driver there comes a message that no higher mode is supported. Is that true? Or is there a way to get at least a little bit of color? The new ET4000W32-Driver (prerelease) does not work at all. It identifies the video chip correctly, but the screen remains black (not even b/w any more) no matter what resolution I choose. Any hints? Thanks. Thorsten -- ------------------------------------------------------ Thorsten Wichmann Technical University Berlin, Dept. of Economics, WW16 Uhlandstr. 4-5, 10623 Berlin, Germany ------------------------------------------------------ elctronic: wich1820@maynard.ww.TU-Berlin.DE
From: laceller@curly.phoenix.ca (Richard Lacelle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Exporting a scsi cd-rom to the network Date: 26 Aug 1994 13:43:48 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA Message-ID: <33krik$cbu@nic.ott.hookup.net> Keywords: cdrom,export,network Hi, I want to export one of our SCSI CD-ROMS across the network, no big problem. But what I want to be able to do is have any cd-rom put into the drive, force it to mount to /CDROM rather that reading the label of the disk and I don't want to user who is logged onto that machine to be able to eject the cd-rom. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to do this. I believe I know how to do it, forcing the cdrom to be mounted at bootup, by root. Thanks Richard Lacelle calderd@hookup.net
From: bjones@cais2.cais.com (Systemworks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: WordPerfect for Intel Date: 26 Aug 1994 14:13:24 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com Message-ID: <33kta4$15e@news.cais.com> TIA -BJ -- --------------------------------------------- Bob Jones bjones@cais.com Systemworks, Inc. 703-450-7429 ---------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: asm@eecg.toronto.edu (Anees S. Munshi) Subject: Connecting NeXTstation to Power Macintosh Message-ID: <1994Aug26.105807.17405@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> Organization: Department of Computer Engineering, University of Toronto Date: 26 Aug 94 14:58:10 GMT Folks, I am looking for inexpensive solution (<$500 if possible) to connect a Power Macintosh to a NeXTstation (thin-wire and 10-baseT equipped) in order to be able to share files. Has anyone out there done this, and if so can you please provide me *by email* your configuration, hardware + software, and your experience about the reliability of the setup. Please use email even if you post since I rarely read news (these days). Thanks very much. Regards, Anees Munshi asm@eecg.toronto.edu
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Joshua Burton's E-text Trove, Release 3 (long!) Date: 26 Aug 1994 17:38:03 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <33l99r$2po@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> WHAT IS THIS? A steadily growing collection of public-domain literary works, conveniently broken into the chapter-sized chunks that Digital Librarian likes, spell- checked, converted to RTF with a reasonable appreciation for the subtleties of left/right quotes, em- and en-dashes, emphasis, footnoting and proper accenting of French/Latin/Spanish/Greek passages. WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? Gutenberg, the Eris Project, the Internet Wiretap, the Cleveland Freenet Project, the Online Books Initiative, and the public-domain part of the Oxford Text Archive are my primary sources. Miscellaneous short stuff comes from just about everywhere, and a few hundred kBs of my favorite poems that I couldn't find elsewhere have actually been hand-typed. The collection more or less subsumes what all the above sources had available as of 8/15/94, although I haven't bothered with some of the real junk. Edgar Rice Burroughs is right on the borderline.... WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THEM? It depends on how fond I am of the text. Everything goes through a fully automated pass of ASCII-to-RTF conversion, using hit-or-miss heuristics that have gotten better as I've encountered the rare problems. Nearly everything gets spell-checked, and up to a half-hour of casual browsing to see what other enhancements are worth my time. My very favorites have actually been read on line, and (nearly) every typo caught. WHAT GOOD ARE THEY? Well, I like them. What good is an RTF-native computer with a built-in librarian, if there are no RTF books available? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NEXT? No promises whatever. I've compiled these texts for my own selfish use, and make no promises to support them further in any way. I have just reached a natural stopping point (no new texts in sight until next month), so I thought I'd release them to anyone else who will get pleasure in them. JUST HOW BIG IS THIS TROVE? I've released it twice before in the last 18 months or so, at 11 and 52 MB. Right now it's 199 MB of text, plus about 28 MB of illustrations from Alice, Flatland, and Tolkien. (No, I don't have Tolkien text, and shame on you. This is all PD stuff!) It's not going to grow by more than another 10 MB in the next six months unless there's a new source I don't know about, given Gutenberg's recent rate of output. COOL. BUT HOW THE HECK CAN I GET A QUARTER GIG TO MY MACHINE? It is getting unwieldy. Last fall I uploaded 52 MB to the archive at BYU (ftp.byu.edu), where the very kind administrator offered me space and set things up with a nice modern FTP client that understands how to download an eighty-chapter, five-part book in one lump. You can look at the old stuff there if you want to see what you're getting. (Thank you, Don Yacktman!) But now there's four times that much stuff, not even counting the pictures which you can get elsewhere. That's a lot of hours for my poor modem, even at 14.4 with compression. Also, a lot of the value-added is in the fact that I have the trove cross-referenced by author, subject, and title. If I upload it piecemeal, someone will have to restore all those links. SO WHY ARE YOU WASTING OUR TIME? Two suggestions. One: send me a NeXT 256 MB, or Canon 502M, optical disk, formatted but blank, in a box that will survive round-trip shipping. Enclose a shipping label for yourself, and a US dollar check for $50 plus whatever the shipping cost you. Send it to Joshua W. Burton, 72 Village Drive, Riverside, RI 02915. (Yes, I'm the guy who had 1600 MO disks in his living room last winter. They're all gone now.) The $50 covers two hours of my time, and any wear on my cube's MO drive. This smells like selling PD texts to me, too, and I'm not enthusiastic about it. But I don't want to be swamped with requests---unlike preparing the texts, shipping them to YOU does ME no direct good, so I'm not willing to spend a lot of time on it. Two: same deal as above, but you promise to (1) upload the texts to an FTP site you maintain, accessible to the world at faster-than-V.32bis speeds, (2) keep them there for at least a year, and accept new texts from me or anyone else within reason, say up to 300 MB total, and (3) shield me from people who aren't content to get things for free, and want my time, too. Equivalently or better, put them on a gopher or a web page, keeping the existing file organization intact, and make it accessible as above. Also, post to this forum, and to alt.etext, comp.texts and anywhere else you think you might drum up interest, once you have the stuff on-line. In return, I'll waive the $50 nuisance fee. Just send me the empty disk, and a few dollars for return postage. This is the option I'm hoping for. Anyone interested? -- `Save the woman, Mr. Fogg!' +----------------------+ `I have yet 12 hours to spare; I can devote them to | Joshua W. Burton | that.' -- `Why, you are a man of heart!' | (401)435-6370 | `Sometimes,' replied Phileas Fogg, quietly; `when I | burton@het.brown.edu | have the time.' -- Jules Verne +----------------------+ P.S. COULD YOU LIST THE TEXTS FOR US? Well, it would be awkward to dig out the name of every poem and short story, and a recursive listing would have a lot of files called Chapter.43 or Part.VI. Here's a listing of the titles that were important enough to be listed that way, and another of the authors. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau) Subject: Re: launch 2nd copy of an app? Message-ID: <1994Aug24.133627.12636@planon.qc.ca> Sender: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau) References: <1994Aug23.160733.22892@glv.cen.encompass.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 13:36:27 GMT In article <1994Aug23.160733.22892@glv.cen.encompass.com> wright@encmail.encompass.com (Jeff Wright) writes: > Well, this is probably a faq, but I couldn't find it... > > Is there a way to launch a second copy of an app? I use a database > application that supports only a single database connection, and it would be > nice to be able to launch a second copy connected to a different database. > > Other than making a copy of the app, or using a non-NeXT tool like > BackManager, is there any other way to accomplish this? > > --jeff wright If you select the application and press "Alternate" key when you double-click on it, a second (a third...) copy will be lauched. Yanik -- Yanik Crepeau j'ai dit OUI a soc.culture.quebec Programmer Ce message represente que mon opinion personnelle Planon Telexpertise et n'engage en rien mon organisation. E-Mail: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT) This message represents only my personnal view,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sta@logibec.com Subject: Re: launch 2nd copy of an app? Message-ID: <1994Aug24.214125.27018@logibec.com> Sender: news@logibec.com Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada References: <1994Aug23.160733.22892@glv.cen.encompass.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 21:41:25 GMT In article <1994Aug23.160733.22892@glv.cen.encompass.com> wright@encmail.encompass.com (Jeff Wright) writes: > Well, this is probably a faq, but I couldn't find it... > > Is there a way to launch a second copy of an app? I use a database > application that supports only a single database connection, and it would be > nice to be able to launch a second copy connected to a different database. > > Other than making a copy of the app, or using a non-NeXT tool like > BackManager, is there any other way to accomplish this? > > --jeff wright ALT-DOUBLE_CLICK an APP ICON IN THE FIELVIEWER (NOT IN THE DOCK)
From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS on HPPA binary sizes Date: 26 Aug 1994 19:07:25 GMT Organization: IBM Rochester MN Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Distribution: world Message-ID: <33lehd$22kr@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> Hi All, Now that NS for HP PA Risc is out, I've a question for any willing soul to help answer that has NS for HPPA. Specifically, I'm interested to see the difference in execution binary sizes on the PA RISC vs the Motorola/Intel CISC. RISC obviously takes more instructions to accomplish the same result as a CISC environment, and the best way to see the proportions is to compare the executable binary sizes. Of course you have to be careful that this doesn't include static data that is included in the binary. Anyway I'm interested in the ratio. Anybody else curious? Tom -- #include <std-disclaimer.h> |o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o| |o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o| - Marvin Martian |o| |o| tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (work - No NeXTMail) |o| |o| TGall@eworld.com (home - Newton Mail) |o|
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to preserve setuid? Date: 26 Aug 1994 21:24:10 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <PJS.94Aug26142410@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> I'm trying to find the simplest way to move my base of operations to a new and larger disk. I tried piping dump into restore, but it doesn't preserve setuid permissions and I'd rather not filter a gigabyte of files to decide what to do manually. Am I overlooking something obvious? -- --paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu ================================================================= Soap and education are not as sudden as a massacre, but they are more deadly in the long run. --Mark Twain =================================================================
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS on HPPA binary sizes Date: 26 Aug 1994 22:02:58 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <33loqi$iq6@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <33lehd$22kr@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> hppa binaries tend to be 3-4 times the size of m68k binaries; it doesn't matter whether we're talking NEXTSTEP or HP/UX. The last time I saw HP demo a 712 at a trade show, it had 96MB of RAM installed. Guess why. (And this is marketed as a "low end" machine!) Aren't you glad you can buy 9GB SCSI disks? -=EPS=- -- People who want performance will buy PA-RISC machines. People who want economy will buy SPARC machines. People who want to be miserable will buy Intel machines. NeXT is very accomodating. :-)
From: doyle@zeke.lanl.gov (Mark D. Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD-ROM drives for installing NS for HPPA Date: 26 Aug 1994 23:38:32 GMT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Distribution: world Message-ID: <33ludo$9co@newshost.lanl.gov> Hi all, Well, I've had the Gecko sitting on my desk for two months now patiently waiting for NeXTSTEP to appear, and now it will be here next week. Joy! However, I don't know which CD-ROM drive I have to beg, borrow, or steal in order to install NS. Is it still true with the final release that the only drives that will work are the HP drives? Can I use my NeXT CD-ROM drive? Thanks for any info, Mark doyle@pion.lanl.gov P.S. If anyone at LANL would like to lend me a drive, please drop me a line.
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for installing NS for HPPA Date: 26 Aug 1994 23:52:57 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <33lv8p$c50@sundog.tiac.net> References: <33ludo$9co@newshost.lanl.gov> In article <33ludo$9co@newshost.lanl.gov> doyle@pion.lanl.gov writes: > Well, I've had the Gecko sitting on my desk for two months now >patiently waiting for NeXTSTEP to appear, and now it will be here >next week. Joy! However, I don't know which CD-ROM drive I have to >beg, borrow, or steal in order to install NS. Is it still true with >the final release that the only drives that will work are the HP drives? >Can I use my NeXT CD-ROM drive? For the 712's you need a "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3401TA" in order to boot off the CD-ROM drive and install NEXTSTEP. Most other CD-ROM's should work for just day to day use, my NeXT CD-ROM works fine with the 712 (except for booting). HP's CD-ROM for the 712's is just a 3401 in an HP enclosure. I bought a 3401 from Dirt Cheap Drives for about $400, and it works flawlessly. hope this helps, -- |: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :| |: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
From: jin@atlantis.rutgers.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Joshua Burton's E-text Trove, Release 3 (long!) Date: 26 Aug 1994 22:20:30 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Message-ID: <33m7te$fs7@atlantis.rutgers.edu> References: <33l99r$2po@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: >WHAT IS THIS? >A steadily growing collection of public-domain literary works, conveniently [...] How about putting the whole trove in a CDROM? Gavin -- ~~~ z Q Q z > Z Don't wake me up. I have a dream! D
From: graham@stat.Berkeley.EDU (Andy Graham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP! Getting panic window on power up! Date: 27 Aug 1994 03:18:42 GMT Organization: Statistics Dept., U. C. Berkeley Message-ID: <33mbai$o0c@agate.berkeley.edu> I would appreciate ANY help anyone can give on the following: I was trying to install an external hard drive on a turbo station. Without going into great detail, I know that: -the external drive (SCSI ID 5) is being recognized, according to the NMI mini monitor message, as is the boot drive (ID 0). -the fsck command gave me a number of "UNALLOCATED..." error messages. -when I power up the computer, I get no error messages until the login window appears, then the "System panic" window displays over the top of it, and I can't log in. I only have the message "killing all processes... continuing" - then the system hangs. Prior to this, I was getting the login window after power up - but after supplying name and password I would just keep getting the login window again. It was from there that I accessed the NMI prompt, and halted the system after looking at the messages. Now when I power up, all I get is the "panic" window. Does anyone know what I might have done, and/or (more importantly) how to go about fixing it? -Thanks! Andrew D. Graham Statistician, Programmer, NextStep Idiot agraham@mindseye.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: NXApp or NeXTanswers Quarterly? Message-ID: <Cv6FHo.Ety@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 04:36:59 GMT I am entering the NextStep arena all by my lonesome. I can't justify the developer support expense. But NXApp looks appealing. In Focus might interest me as well. Does NeXTanswers Quarterly encompass both of these periodicals, or just a subset(ie, selective articles from each)? I'm trying to decide, as a developer, which provides a better value. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: NS on HPPA binary sizes Message-ID: <1994Aug27.071043.19539@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <33lehd$22kr@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 07:10:43 GMT In article <33lehd$22kr@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes: >> >>Hi All, >> >> Now that NS for HP PA Risc is out, I've a question for any willing soul to >>help answer that has NS for HPPA. >> >> Specifically, I'm interested to see the difference in execution binary sizes >>on the PA RISC vs the Motorola/Intel CISC. >> Compiling a rather large app of mine, an app for doing various 3D frippery, yields the following results: stripped, the raw (i.e. Foo.app/Foo) executable was: 68K: 0.648 MB Intel: 0.882 MB HPPA: 0.867 MB -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: kenw@tfs.com (Ken Worthy) Subject: SLIP and DNS Message-ID: <Cv6MEG.KGx@tfs.com> Organization: TRW Financial Systems Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 07:06:15 GMT Has anyone seen a problem using DialUPIP SLIP where it occasionally hangs when in a request to the DNS nameserver on the local net to where it is SLIP'd? Here's the situation: my home NeXT is SLIP'd to work using DialUpIp. DNS is set up on the home host to use the name server at work. I can open a telnet session to almost any host on the Internet, but certain hosts cannot be resolved--the connection with the nameserver just hangs. All of the other hosts on the local (workplace) net have no problem resolving those Internet hostnames, with the same DNS configuration. The home host also doesn't hang on any telnet requests to the local net. Anyone seen anything like this? I haven't seen any other weird behavior using DialUpIp SLIP from my home host. Thanks, Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: falke@iitmax.iit.edu (Falke Bruinsma) Subject: NS/I time vs. MS-DOS time Message-ID: <1994Aug26.044816.30492@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 26 Aug 94 04:48:16 GMT Newsgroups: comp.os.next.misc Subject: NS/I time vs. MS-DOS time Distribution: usa Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago I use both MS-DOS and NS/I on my PC and have found one very annoying problem. MS-DOS assumes that the time stored is local time, while NS/I assumes it is greenwich time... So whenever I switch both clocks get screwed up and always have to reset the times when I go from NS/I to MS=DOS or vice-versa. Is there a trick I can use that will fix this? Or maybe make it so that at least ONE system has the correct time. -- Falke Bruinsma | Falke_Bruinsma@iit.edu Illinois Institute of Technology | http://www.iit.edu/~sysfalke/me ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Programming is like sex, one mistake and you spend a lifetime supporting it.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS on HPPA binary sizes Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 08:53:02 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <YiLnQiG00iV1A0w2Ra@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <33lehd$22kr@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 26-Aug-94 NS on HPPA binary sizes by Tom Gall@vnet.ibm.com > RISC obviously takes more instructions to accomplish the same result as a > CISC environment, and the best way to see the proportions is to compare the > executable binary sizes. While it's true in general that a RISC architecture requires "more instructions" then a CISC, the situation is a lot more complicated than that when you take a look at real programs. For example, it's often very difficult for the compiler to generate code which uses the more complex instructions available under CISC, and you'll typically have much fewer registers available, meaning that you have to spill temp values to the stack in complex functions a lot more often. (*) This results in a lot of CISC executables that turn out larger then their RISC conterparts. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the Intel x86 binaries are larger then the Motorola 68k or HP PA_RISC versions.... -Chuck (*) These are why a RISC architecture is much easier to design a good optimizing compiler for then a CISC, and why a human programmer can often produce better code then the compiler on a CISC. Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help Date: 27 Aug 1994 13:29:50 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <33nf4f$1nt@news.tamu.edu> References: <33j34c$skb@news.tamu.edu> <33kr9p$6fu@news.duke.edu> In article <33kr9p$6fu@news.duke.edu>, Denise Blakeley <blake015@mc.duke.edu> wrote: >Lusty Wench writes >> >> This is seriously off-topic, but is anyone out there interested >> in chatting by email? I'm in desperate need of having my mailbox >> overflow (or at least not remain completely empty) at the moment. > >Looks like Lusty went off and left her workstation unattended for awhile >without locking the screen! (A lesson I learned long ago...) Heheh. Nope, I did it on purpose, and I didn't regret it either :-) In fact, Denise, one of my respondents suggested you as an expert chatter ;-) Truthfully, I wasn't sure what the result of that post would be, but I have been very pleasantly surprised. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: silbar@beep.roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Suddenly, no diskette icon in Browser Date: 27 Aug 1994 11:58:37 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199408271059.KAA05650@beep.roadrunner.com> Very recently it seems that, when I Check for Disk (on NS/I), the Workspace Manager finds it and mounts it, but no longer puts the icon up on the Browser Shelf. What's worse, there seems to be a lot of floppy drive activity that goes on continually after this. Sort of like the WSM is searching for something on the diskette and can't find it. After a long time, things calm down. Actually this is not true for all disks, maybe just for one that I use a lot. It may have gotten zapped somehow in a crash and didn't get properly "fixed"? The medium is getting worn? Anybody know what's going on (what I may have inadvertently changed)? Dick Silbar, WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with NeXT HD probe. Date: 27 Aug 1994 20:25:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <33o7fn$jaj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I have 3hard drives, one of has two Linux partitions on it and no others. Fo some reason NEXTSTEP decides that this drive is unreadable and asks to initialize it EVERY time I login. Is there a good way to get it to just leave this drive alone? I hva tried various entries in /etc/fstab but none seem to keep the drive probe from finding this drive and telling me it's unreadable. Any suggestoins orsolutions? -- David Jeske(N9LCA)/CompEng Student at Univ of Ill at Cham-Urbana/NeXT Programmer CoCreator of the GTalk Chat Software System - online at (708)998-0008 jeske@uiuc.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: garylang@netcom.com (Gary Lang) Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <garylangCv84ot.2qM@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> <1994Aug22.154718.8412@glv.cen.encompass.com> Distribution: inet Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 02:38:52 GMT Jeff Wright (wright@encmail.encompass.com) wrote: : > There are three ways you can minimize your risk: : > : > 1. Only buy your software from large companies unlikely to go : > bankrupt (e.g. Microsoft, AT&T, IBM, etc.) and unlikely to discontinue : > a product. : I believe that large companies are at least as likely to suddenly discontinue : products as small companies, if not more so. I'm not talking about : bankruptcy, but about just discontinuing products due to not fitting some new : business strategy. Large companies seem to take the attitude they can afford : the bad will, or that they can offer a migration path, or whatever. Right. "Lotus announces that despite a commanding leadership in the spreadsheet business, they are stoppin the development and delivery of 1-2-3 as of today. They have no spreadsheets to replace it." -- Gary Lang Email:garylang@netcom.COM
From: ferng@irisserv (Ferng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: My NeXT won't power up, please help Date: 28 Aug 1994 03:22:36 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <33ovts$smq@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> My NeXTstation died. I don't know what the problem is, and I don't know what to do with it. I am anxious to get it fixed, and need your kind help or suggestion. The nightmare is this: I turned on my NeXTstation one day, it started to reboot. Everything looked like normal for 30 seconds, and then the screen shut off, the computer went down in no time. There was no power failure. But I can never turn it on again. It just died. What can I do? Thanks in advance for any response. ---ferng ferng@helios.math.nctu.edu.tw
From: jjdtech@delphi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/I time vs. MS-DOS time Date: Sun, 28 Aug 94 01:24:36 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <5YzzVJ0.jjdtech@delphi.com> References: <1994Aug26.044816.30492@iitmax.iit.edu> You may want to check the time zone in your preferences..mine is on local eastern time and I have no problems with the time between my DOS and my NS. John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fender@netcom.com (Nemtrovski) Subject: NeXT fax format to TIFF/PICT Conversion Message-ID: <fenderCv8Bp6.CDw@netcom.com> Summary: NeXT fax format to TIFF/PICT Conversion Keywords: NeXT fax format to TIFF/PICT Conversion Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 05:10:17 GMT I am looking for a program that can convert NeXSTEP .fax files, or group 3 or 4 faxes, to TIFF of PICT so that I can do some Macintosh OCR on them. For some reason, all of these Mac apps don't do group 3 or 4 faxes. The closed-system mentality of the Mac world is sometimes rediculous. Jim Nemerovski fender@netcom.com
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to preserve setuid? Date: 27 Aug 1994 07:18:21 -0700 Organization: runner Distribution: world Message-ID: <33nhvd$pde@runner.uucp> References: <PJS.94Aug26142410@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> Paul J. Sanchez (pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu) wrote: : I'm trying to find the simplest way to move my base of operations to a : new and larger disk. I tried piping dump into restore, but it doesn't : preserve setuid permissions and I'd rather not filter a gigabyte of : files to decide what to do manually. : Am I overlooking something obvious? Try using tar (or even better, gnutar) .... -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bchin@andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: NS/I time vs. MS-DOS time Message-ID: <Cv7B61.F3q@nextsrv1.andi.org> Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <1994Aug26.044816.30492@iitmax.iit.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 16:01:13 GMT In article <1994Aug26.044816.30492@iitmax.iit.edu> falke@iitmax.iit.edu (Falke Bruinsma) writes: > I use both MS-DOS and NS/I on my PC and have found one very annoying > problem. MS-DOS assumes that the time stored is local time, while NS/I > assumes it is greenwich time... So whenever I switch both clocks get > screwed up and always have to reset the times when I go from NS/I to > MS=DOS or vice-versa. If you have TCP/IP on the DOS side and you have a time server on the network, when you boot DOS you can have it set the time according to the time server. When you boot back into NEXTSTEP, NEXTSTEP can also query the time server for the correct time. Check out the docs on ntp and see if you TCP/IP package has it included. -- Bill Chin - bchin@andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: murshid@unit.edu (murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Who allows NeXT to boot up as Mac Date: 28 Aug 1994 08:12:42 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <33pgtq$lha@news.cerf.net> Please email me information on the company that provides the hardware solution that allows one's NeXT to boot up as a Mac. Thank you murshid@unit.edu
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hookup needed Message-ID: <10665@cg-atla.UUCP> Date: 26 Aug 94 17:48:29 GMT Distribution: misc Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA Anybody in the Boston area with non-university net access... I am basically looking into options on getting plugged into the net. If anybody has a SLIP/PPP hookup with a local provider, I would appreciate your comments. Low-cost here is key, as this is for my own use (Boston University finally caught up to me - no more free account). Ftp access for me is a must (sending any software through an ftp mailer is just too painful). Email replys are appreciated, -peter greis@cg-atla.agfa.com
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to preserve setuid? Date: 28 Aug 1994 08:27:44 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <33phq0$11r6@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <33nhvd$pde@runner.uucp> In article <33nhvd$pde@runner.uucp> richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) writes: > Paul J. Sanchez (pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu) wrote: > : I'm trying to find the simplest way to move my base of operations to a > : new and larger disk. I tried piping dump into restore, but it doesn't > : preserve setuid permissions and I'd rather not filter a gigabyte of > : files to decide what to do manually. > > : Am I overlooking something obvious? > > Try using tar (or even better, gnutar) .... ^ | tar can't copy special files (/dev) ! gnutar will do, I suppose, but the BEST alternative is to get the restore patch from NeXT which fixes the bug ( it's described in the FAQS, and is available from ftp.next.com ). -- James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226 Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: NXApp or NeXTanswers Quarterly? Message-ID: <Cv9769.907@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <Cv6FHo.Ety@eskimo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 16:30:09 GMT Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote: : I am entering the NextStep arena all by my lonesome. I can't justify : the developer support expense. But NXApp looks appealing. In Focus : might interest me as well. Does NeXTanswers Quarterly encompass both : of these periodicals, or just a subset(ie, selective articles from : each)? I'm trying to decide, as a developer, which provides a better : value. NeXTAnswers is free on the Net (ftp.next.com). The NXApp and NS In Focus magazines are quite useful. They are posted to ftp.next.com (the articles and the sample files) on a time-lag. Each issue makes it out when the next issue has come out in paper. If you want the paper copies with floppy delivered, you might consider becoming a Registered Developer, which get you both magazines as well as other things. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Stay Alive. Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | Sixty-Five Grand. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Feed the hole." csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | -Jack Grimaldi, Romeo is Bleeding
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: felix@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl (Felix Herrmann) Subject: Q:Cub'X on HP Message-ID: <felix.778089779@dutnak2> Summary: When will Cub'X be available for NEXTSTEP on HP hardware? Keywords: X-Windows, NEXTSTEP,Cub'X,Availability Sender: news@news.tudelft.nl (UseNet News System) Organization: Delft University of Technology Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 16:02:59 GMT Hi anyone especially the Cub'X developers, Since NEXTSTEP is available on HP hardware the evident question comes up concerning X-window emulation. It is very simple: When will Cub'X -- one of the better X-window emulators -- be available for HP-RISC? Thanks in advance, Felix Herrmann. ps. I am sorry I have to beg for this stuff, but since Matlab and other numerical software is still domintated by X, I have to use those emulators! (sugestions for Mathworks)
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to preserve setuid? Date: 28 Aug 1994 18:40:16 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <PJS.94Aug28114016@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> References: <33nhvd$pde@runner.uucp> <33phq0$11r6@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> In-reply-to: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca's message of 28 Aug 1994 08:27:44 GMT Thanks to everyone who responded. The patch from ftp.next.com did the trick. -- --paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu ================================================================= Soap and education are not as sudden as a massacre, but they are more deadly in the long run. --Mark Twain =================================================================
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT fax format to TIFF/PICT Conversion Date: 28 Aug 1994 20:43:48 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <33qsu4$d2@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <fenderCv8Bp6.CDw@netcom.com> In article <fenderCv8Bp6.CDw@netcom.com> fender@netcom.com (Nemtrovski) writes: >I am looking for a program that can convert NeXSTEP .fax files, or group >3 or 4 faxes, to TIFF of PICT so that I can do some Macintosh OCR on >them. Just out of curiosity, does tiffutil -packbits something.fax -out something.tiff accomplish anything useful? -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gsl@netcom.com (Greg Lindholm) Subject: NEXTMAILing LARGE stuff Message-ID: <gslCv9sH2.C3y@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 00:10:14 GMT I attemped to mail someone a 1.5meg NEXTMAIL letter, and some system along the way rejected it because of a 1meg limit. Is there a way to have NEXTMAIL split the mail into smaller chunks that can be EASILY reassembled on the other end ? -- Greg Lindholm Glendale CA gsl@netcom.com (NeXTMail OK)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 29 Aug 1994 00:40:41 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <33ros9$9fi@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ or http://digifix.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- news://comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news://comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. news://comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news://comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news://comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news://comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news://comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news://comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news://comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news://comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-848-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com) and Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: ghg@crl.com (Glen H. Gersten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ksh for NEXTSTEP Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:12:18 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Message-ID: <33ru82$5ff@crl7.crl.com> Can anyone send me or tell me where I can find a copy of the Korn shell for the NeXT? Thanks, ghg@crl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: kenw@tfs.com (Ken Worthy) Subject: Re: SLIP and DNS Message-ID: <CvACGM.IK6@tfs.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: TRW Financial Systems References: <Cv6MEG.KGx@tfs.com> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 07:21:58 GMT With a bit of persistence, I finally solved this one. It turned out that the problem was more general than the nameserver connection, but after a lot of use, was never seen outside of that context. Basically, a couple of nameservers were sending back packets that were larger than the MTU setting of the default on my host. I had been using a keyfile for a demo of CSLIP. When the CSLIP capability ran out, the keyfile still worked, and the MTU was still set to a small size that's appropriate for CSLIP. What I need to do now (I've temporarily hardwired the MTU size), is get some tcl in the login script that reads the MTU setting (reported by the remote host), and sets the local SLIP connection accordingly. Ken Ken Worthy (kenw@tfs.com) wrote: : Has anyone seen a problem using DialUPIP SLIP where it occasionally hangs : when in a request to the DNS nameserver on the local net to where it is : SLIP'd? : Here's the situation: my home NeXT is SLIP'd to work using DialUpIp. DNS is : set up on the home host to use the name server at work. I can open a telnet : session to almost any host on the Internet, but certain hosts cannot be : resolved--the connection with the nameserver just hangs. All of the other : hosts on the local (workplace) net have no problem resolving those Internet : hostnames, with the same DNS configuration. The home host also doesn't hang : on any telnet requests to the local net. : Anyone seen anything like this? I haven't seen any other weird behavior using : DialUpIp SLIP from my home host. : Thanks, : Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: NS on HPPA binary sizes Message-ID: <1994Aug29.121709.2389@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. References: <1994Aug27.071043.19539@news.media.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:17:09 GMT In article <1994Aug27.071043.19539@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: > In article <33lehd$22kr@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes: > >> > >>Hi All, > >> > >> Now that NS for HP PA Risc is out, I've a question for any willing soul to > >>help answer that has NS for HPPA. > >> > >> Specifically, I'm interested to see the difference in execution binary sizes > >>on the PA RISC vs the Motorola/Intel CISC. > >> > > Compiling a rather large app of mine, an app for doing various 3D frippery, > yields the following results: > > stripped, the raw (i.e. Foo.app/Foo) executable was: > > 68K: 0.648 MB > Intel: 0.882 MB > HPPA: 0.867 MB > > -- > --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu > --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group > --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) > --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office) Example of size result 68040 fabien@free> size /bin/ls __TEXT __DATA __OBJC others dec hex 106496 16384 0 8192 131072 20000 fabien@free> file /bin/ls /bin/ls: Mach-O executable (for architecture m68k) HPPA fabien@gecko60> size /bin/ls __TEXT __DATA __OBJC others dec hex 147456 16384 0 8192 172032 2a000 fabien@gecko60> file /bin/ls /bin/ls: Mach-O executable (for architecture hppa) INTEL fabien@dell_590> size /bin/ls __TEXT __DATA __OBJC others dec hex 106496 16384 0 8192 131072 20000 fabien@dell_590> file /bin/ls /bin/ls: Mach-O executable (for architecture i486) -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: silbar@beep.roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mux Driver Date: 29 Aug 1994 10:52:55 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199408290953.JAA10674@beep.roadrunner.com> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (aka Diana) wrote: > I'm trying to install the Mux driver for use with NSI > 3.2 and a serial mouse. Though I'm sure the instructions > in the package are adequate for the less-ignorant, they > seem to be way beyond me. Can someone please send me > the appropriate Default.table and Instance0.table files > for this install, along with specific step-by-step > instructions? I just installed MUX Driver last night, but not with a serial mouse. My memory says there was a Default.table for that situation in the Configurations/SerialPort,Com2 directory. MY interesting problem is that it seems (seemed?) that installing the MUX driver interfered with getting anything but squawks out of my Pro Audio Spectrum 16 card. Crazy thing is that the sound is OK this morning (after a reboot). The annoying thing is that the MUX driver HELPS with file transfers using zmodem (and TipTop) but faster than 4800 baud still generates CRC errors. And, I still lose an occasional character (in doing an ls -al on a big directory) at speeds above 14400 (ZyXel 1496E modem) My UARTs are 16450's -- is _that_ the problem? -- Dick Silbar, WhistleSoft, Inc. 505-662-7309 (voice) 505-662-7601 (fax) silbar@beep.roadrunner.com
From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS on HPPA binary sizes Date: 29 Aug 1994 15:21:01 GMT Organization: IBM Rochester MN Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Distribution: world Message-ID: <33suct$2720@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> References: <YiLnQiG00iV1A0w2Ra@andrew.cmu.edu> Wave, Chuck, Thanks for the info. Actually a surprise to me! (But a good one) Thanks again, Tom -- #include <std-disclaimer.h> |o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o| |o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o| - Marvin Martian |o| |o| tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (work - No NeXTMail) |o| |o| TGall@eworld.com (home - Newton Mail) |o|
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Joshua Burton's E-text Trove, Release 3 Date: 29 Aug 1994 16:26:50 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <33t28a$50r@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Now available at ftp://ftp.et.byu.edu/pub/next/submissions/Literature, and soon to move to ftp://ftp.et.byu.edu/pub/next/Literature. Other sites for upload now being negotiated. See my c.s.n.announce posting when Scott gets around to posting it. ``I rejoice that there are owls. +--------------------------------------+ Let them do the idiotic and maniacal | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 | hooting for men.'' | burton@het.brown.edu | -- Henry David Thoreau +--------------------------------------+
From: drudoff@axys2.mccaw.com (Doug Rudoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Keyboard setup problems in CubX Date: 29 Aug 1994 17:08:25 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <33t4m9$mro@ftp-p.mccaw.com> When using Nextstep on my Intel box, my keyboard preference is NextUSA (control key to the left of 'A', meta key below the left shift key). In CubX the NextUSA keyboard setup doesn't work properly. Using the control key doesn't generate control characters and the meta key doesn't work either. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Perhaps with xmodmap? //\\//\\//\\//\\ doug@celtech.com \\//\\//\\//\\//
From: jhermann@brainiac.linear.sc.ti.com (John Hermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SolarGeek Date: 29 Aug 1994 19:12:15 GMT Organization: Design Automation Division, Texas Instruments. Message-ID: <33tbuf$mqv@barracuda.dadd.ti.com> I released a program about a half a year ago called SolarGeek.app. It was released on cs.orst.edu. It had a demo mode that could be played, but required a passcode to play beyond the first level. I was wondering if anyone ever found the game appealing even in the least. As of now, not a single license was ever requested. I have another version of the program which fixes a couple of bugs, but I see no need to release it. The program was written for NeXT-Step 3.0; I was wondering if this program would work on other versions of the OS. Everything I write is for NS3.0, I know little about the later releases. Also, my computer is the mono version, and was wondering what the SolarGeek program looked like in color. Best Regards, John Hermann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Is it possible to netboot a PC into NeXTStep/Intel? Message-ID: <CvBELA.BsF@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:05:34 GMT I have a PC that could run NeXTStep, and it has the Intel EtherExpress 16C card installed. Is it possible for it to netboot NeXTStep? And where would I get the EPROM that goes onto the Ethernet card? I don't want to have to buy a large drive for the PC, when I have plenty of space already available to build a bootable Intel partition on my central server. Is this possible? -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: graham@stat.Berkeley.EDU (Andy Graham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP! "System Panic" (sort of long; details) Date: 29 Aug 1994 23:08:58 GMT Organization: Statistics Dept., U. C. Berkeley Message-ID: <33tpqa$dge@agate.berkeley.edu> 8-29-94 This is a detailed description of a Next problem I am having. It is urgent that I find some solution asap. If anyone can give me any advice or suggestions, it would be greatly (GREATLY!) appreciated. Sorry this is so long, but I am hoping that someone will see a solution from these detailed error messages. Thanks! /*---------------------------------------------------------------------*/ I was attempting to install an external SCSI hard drive on the NeXT Turbo Station. I had to reboot a couple times and change the drive's SCSI ID until the NMI mini monitor kernel messages showed that the drive was being recognized. After the final reboot, the system went through all the usual checks, loaded the system from the original disk, then gave me the LOGIN window. I logged in as "root" and gave the appropriate password. The system appeared to accept it, the login window closed, the system hesitated for a few seconds, then redisplayed the login window. It kept redisplaying the login window over and over at each login attempt; I was never able to log on in this way. I accessed the mini monitor (cmd-cmd-~) and halted the system from there. Now every time I reboot I get a the "System Panic" window displayed. Now when I reboot, after all the usual "testing system", "loading from disk", etc windows (with the spinning disk icon), the "System Panic" window pops open with the following messages (first couple are paraphrased normal msgs): ---------------------------------------------------------- . . . Seagate disk sd0 at target 0 Maxtor (the new disk) disk sd1 at target 5 Generic scsi device at .... (etc. etc.) . . root on sd0 master Cpu at slot 0 dev = 0x600, block = 911, fs = 1 panic: (Cpu 0) free_block: freeing free frag Next ROM monitor 3.1 v71 panic: Next Mach 3.0 ....(date).... root(rcbuilder): mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K killing all processes continuing ------------------------------------------------------------ ... then the system hangs there. If I then hit the power button, and reply "y" to the prompt to really shut down the system, I get the following messages: ------------------------------------------------------------ . . Shutdown in progress unexpected kernel page fault failure called from pc .... (several lines of hex numbers) . . last fp 0x0 panic: (Cpu 0) MMU invalid descriptor during table walk Next ROM monitor 3.1 v71 panic: Next Mach 3.0 ...(date)... root(rcbuilder): mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K panic> ------------------------------------------------------------- ... and I am left with the "panic>" prompt. A helpful USENET reader asked what happens when I try to boot in single user mode. I halted the system, from the panic prompt, and interrupted the boot process to get the ROM monitor (cmd-~ right after the "testing system" window). From the "Next>" prompt I tried to boot in single user mode with the command "bsd -s". I got the following messages: ------------------------------------------------------------- . . single user boot - fsck not done faking root mount entries . . (usual normal messages - disks recognized, ip address set, etc) . . dev = 0x600, block = 911, fs = 1 panic: (Cpu 0) free_block: freeing free frag Next ROM monitor 3.1 v71 etc. -------------------------------------------------------------- ... and left at the "panic>" prompt again. The same usenet reader asked if I had modified the /etc/fstab file. I have not. Final note: with the new external disk disconnected, I get exactly the same kernel messages (except, of course, the messages recognizing the external disk). /*---------------------------------------------------------------------*/ Any "Nextpert" out there have any clues for me? Thanks a million for any comments! -Andy Graham agraham@mindseye.berkeley.edu (e-mail always welcome!) 510-642-7215 (so is a phone call!) UC Berkeley School of Optometry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Time bombed demo Message-ID: <1994Aug29.215350.3544@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:53:50 GMT I just downloaded TypingCzar.FAT.compressed (size=319689) and when I tried to launch it has expired. This is a real waste. 8-( I suggest to add the date of expiration to the name of the file like: TypingCzar.FAT.940829.exp.compressed so all the expired demo could be automatically removed from the archive. Any comments? Cheers Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc From: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox) Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <CvBLzw.2Lq@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> Sender: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox) Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. References: <garylangCv84ot.2qM@netcom.com> Distribution: inet Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 23:45:31 GMT Gary Lang writes >Jeff Wright (wright@encmail.encompass.com) wrote: >>I believe that large companies are at least as likely to suddenly >>discontinue products as small companies, if not more so. I'm > >Right. "Lotus announces that despite a commanding leadership in the >spreadsheet business, they are stoppin the development and delivery >of 1-2-3 as of today. They have no spreadsheets to replace it." Jeff didn't say major products, just products. Lotus has discontinued Improv. That's a product that a small company could not afford to drop. The development and marketing costs must have been enormous. I've also heard that Microsoft is phasing out MS Mail for Novell. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox (terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca) Arcane Systems Ltd. Makers of the ThreadKit
From: bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Regular monitors for MonoTurbo? Date: 29 Aug 1994 20:45:10 -0700 Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program Message-ID: <33ua06$i6u@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> Haven't gotten a response from the hardware group, so I guess I'll try here. Anyone know if I can use some regular PC monitor for a Next mono Turbo? I'm moving halfway around the world, and while putting the slab in a suitcase is easy, the monitor is kind of bulky. I know, it'll look ugly, but hey, East European customs can be rough on an old tube. Thanks, Bill -- Bill Eldridge bill@lifesci.ucla.edu SysAdmins have big disks. 310-206-3960 310-206-3987 (fax)
From: ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org (Reimer A. Mellin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT fax format to TIFF/PICT Conversion Date: 29 Aug 1994 20:33:46 GMT Organization: at home Message-ID: <33tgna$2or@ramsys.sta.sub.org> References: <33qsu4$d2@nic-nac.CSU.net> Eric P. Scott writes > In article <fenderCv8Bp6.CDw@netcom.com> fender@netcom.com > (Nemtrovski) writes: > >I am looking for a program that can convert NeXSTEP .fax files, or group > >3 or 4 faxes, to TIFF of PICT so that I can do some Macintosh OCR on > >them. > > Just out of curiosity, does > > tiffutil -packbits something.fax -out something.tiff > > accomplish anything useful? Hmm: 'tiffutil -info <file.fax>' gives some very interesting output. The apparent truth is, that a fax-file is a tiff which uses a G3/G4 compression (not packbits!!). Funny..... Cheers Reimer
From: torsten@eirah.ping.de (Torsten van Beeck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CASE Tools Date: 29 Aug 1994 22:20:55 GMT Organization: Torsten's Ideenschmiede Distribution: world Message-ID: <33tn07$9d@eirah.ping.de> Hi! Do any CASE (computer aided software enginering) tools exist for NS? Free or commercial and where to get? Thanx for your help. Bye, Torsten
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problem with NeXT HD probe. Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:38:48 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <33u63o$hph@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <33o7fn$jaj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> David Jeske (jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : I have 3hard drives, one of has two Linux partitions on it and no others. : Fo some reason NEXTSTEP decides that this drive is unreadable and asks : to initialize it EVERY time I login. Is there a good way to get it to just : leave this drive alone? I hva tried various entries in /etc/fstab but none : seem to keep the drive probe from finding this drive and telling me it's : unreadable. I have two hard drives with NeXTSTEP on the second IDE. The same thing happens when I login. One symptom to note is that the error occurs only on the first login; if I logout and login again it does not tell me the 1st hard drive is unreadable and if I want to ignore or initialize it. In my case if I use fdisk under Linux, or DOS they don't see the NeXTSTEP partitions and under NeXTSTEP fdisk it does not see the DOS, Linux or NeXTSTEP partitions. Any hints or suggestions are welcome. Dan dlogue@neosoft.com
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mux Driver Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:47:33 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <33u6k5$hph@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <199408290953.JAA10674@beep.roadrunner.com> Dick Silbar (silbar@beep.roadrunner.com) wrote: : lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (aka Diana) wrote: : > I'm trying to install the Mux driver for use with NSI : > 3.2 and a serial mouse. Though I'm sure the instructions : > in the package are adequate for the less-ignorant, they : > seem to be way beyond me. Can someone please send me : > the appropriate Default.table and Instance0.table files : > for this install, along with specific step-by-step : > instructions? : I just installed MUX Driver last night, but not with a serial mouse. : My memory says there was a Default.table for that situation in : the Configurations/SerialPort,Com2 directory. : MY interesting problem is that it seems (seemed?) that installing the : MUX driver interfered with getting anything but squawks out of my Pro : Audio Spectrum 16 card. Crazy thing is that the sound is OK this morning : (after a reboot). : The annoying thing is that the MUX driver HELPS with file transfers : using zmodem (and TipTop) but faster than 4800 baud still generates CRC : errors. And, I still lose an occasional character (in doing an ls -al : on a big directory) at speeds above 14400 (ZyXel 1496E modem) : My UARTs are 16450's -- is _that_ the problem? Yes that would be a problem. I went so far as to get a Hayes ESP serial port and the Mux driver and have no problem with lost characters but every once in a while it appears that an FTP site listing stops under kermit until I switch to the command line and back. BTW the serial mouse and the Mux driver configuration is not obvious but once you very carfully read the note in Configurations/SerialPort,Com2 and carefully follow directions it works. copy the Default.table into the Mux root directory as Default.table make a link in /usr/include using ln -s kernserv kern (I believe) copy the SerialPort default.table into the serailport driver directory as Instance0.table and run configure. It took me a while but it is worth the effort. Dan dlogue@neosoft.com
From: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xnext Date: 30 Aug 1994 12:15:11 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Sender: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch Message-ID: <33v7sf$8i8@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Keywords: X11, XWindows, Xnext Hi folks, I just got the whole X11 stuff from anonymous ftp and wanted to install it. Almost everything went fine, also the MouseX things, everything should be at the right place. Then I tried to run it with Xnext as server, I got the XWindows workspace and two terminals (from .xinitrc) and the xclock. BUT, the terminals didn't have a menu bar, and I also didn't have a menu in the workspace. Moreover, after a while the XWinwow system crashed. Not everything is wrong, I could use the installation with the tvtwm X server. I got two terminals WITH menubars, menu in the workspace and I was able to move windows and work with XWindows. Also, it was stable and didn't crash. PLEASE, does anybody know about problems with the Xnext, or did I maybe miss to install something ? Any tips & tricks ? Thanks in advance. Renato ____________________________________________________________________________ Renato B. Pajarola NeXT-mail OK ETH / Swiss Federal Institute of Technology email: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch Haldeneggsteig 4, IFW phone: ++41 (0)1 632 74 02 8092 Zurich, Switzerland fax: ++41 (0)1 632 11 72 WWW --> http://www.inf.ethz.ch/department/TI/pw/staff/pajarola.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell Silverman) Subject: Design tools in NS ?? Message-ID: <CvCq24.Cyx@mtkgc.com> Keywords: Object, Design Sender: news@mtkgc.com Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:10:52 GMT Does anyone have any ideas on tools for Object design, ala Rational Rose, Objectory, etc. ? Does NeXT as a company have a design methodology it uses, or standard in-house tools ? I am very happy with the tools for OO Programming that NS provides, they are the best I've seen, with a close runner up being Visual Works/Smalltalk from Parc Place, though that is comparing apples and oranges (compiled/open/gnu-ish/components vs. interpreted/ garbage collected/proprietary/virtual machine). These tools, however, are not design tools, they presume the design has already been completed. I want to note that this is not meant as a question to illicit a debate on design methodolgies, or the value of such. If I wanted that to happen I would have posted to the 'advocacy' group. All I want is info. --thanks muchly, RS
From: jordan@tanagra.pnl.gov (Randy Jordan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DELL OmniPlex 590 Date: 30 Aug 1994 18:41:58 GMT Organization: Battelle, Pacific Northwest Laboratory Distribution: world Message-ID: <33vuhm$bfn@bbs.pnl.gov> Keywords: DELL I have just recieved a DELL OmniPlex 590 and would like to install the NeXT Step evauluation kit (3.1) on it. I has 16MB, a scsi 500MB disk and a cd-rom also scsi on a NCR PCI controller. Is is do-able? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Thyne Own Self be true... myne opinions are, as are the opinions at: "http://tanagra.pnl.gov:2080/" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: rickf@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rick Stanley Francis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Swap drives? Date: 30 Aug 1994 19:39:46 GMT Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Message-ID: <3401u2$k3k@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Keywords: swapdisk I am interested in getting a small (say 40-100 MB) disk to use as a swapdrive for my system. I was wondering what drives (ie specific brands and models) people had successfully setup as swapdisks? I had tried a conner CP3040 without any luck, I'm not sure if it was a problem with the drive being incompatable with the controller, or the one I had just being a bad disk. Any comments are appreciated. -Rick Francis rickf@leland.stanford.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help Date: 31 Aug 1994 02:15:57 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <340p4t$81b@news.iastate.edu> References: <33nf4f$1nt@news.tamu.edu> Lusty Wench writes []In article <33kr9p$6fu@news.duke.edu>, []Denise Blakeley <blake015@mc.duke.edu> wrote: []>Lusty Wench writes []>> []>> This is seriously off-topic, but is anyone out there interested []>> in chatting by email? I'm in desperate need of having my mailbox []>> overflow (or at least not remain completely empty) at the moment. []> []>Looks like Lusty went off and left her workstation unattended for awhile []>without locking the screen! (A lesson I learned long ago...) [] []Heheh. Nope, I did it on purpose, and I didn't regret it either :-) Hmmm.... so either Denise is wrong and Lusty was "Desperately Seeking Someone" or else Denise was right (TWICE!) and the above is just more smoke from some sneak with access to Lusty's account. Think I'm paranoid? don't forget that not too long ago a certain NeXT developer (who shall remain namesless, okay Steve? :) claimed that a flame war had all been touched off by someone "accidentally" posting from his account :) []In fact, Denise, one of my respondents suggested you as an expert []chatter ;-) Gee, I wonder who would have done that? :) [] []Truthfully, I wasn't sure what the result of that post would be, []but I have been very pleasantly surprised. Well, that sounds just grand..... but how come you haven't responded to my second letter then? Must be the toothpaste I use.....or the shoes. TLM -- =========================================================================== Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: t2101ft@nextmm.lrz-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,lmu.informatik.next,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how to make a boot floppy for NS/intel?? Date: 31 Aug 1994 10:08:39 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <341kr7$aio@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Keywords: boot, floppy, NSI Hello, since this morning I cannot boot my NeXT/Intel any more: everything goes fine until after the mount of my root disk, then NS claims that the disk is 100% full, I get a vm_swapout error (28) and evrything comes to a halt. I tried single user mode --- hangs at the same point. I tried to boot from the NS3.2 installation disk, but I always end up in the installation script (yes, I tried single user -s here, too) and since I don't have a SCSI card (and therefore no SCSI CDROM) on my machine I end up in a kernal panic with no way out. Now my next attempt is to make a boot floppy (like I used to have one for black hardware) to boot from the floppy in single user mode and them mount my old root disk. However, I don't know how to do that! I looked at NeXTAnswers, the man pages, but no hints. Can anyone help and tell me how to make a boot floppy for NeXTStep/Intel?? I have access to another NSI system, I just don't know how to do it. Needless to say that I need my machine back ASAP as I can't continue my work otherwise. Thanks a LOT to your help and replies --- replies to: heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de helmut
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT fax format to TIFF/PICT Conversion Date: 31 Aug 1994 07:12:33 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <341ah1$kgf@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <33qsu4$d2@nic-nac.CSU.net> <33tgna$2or@ramsys.sta.sub.org> In article <33tgna$2or@ramsys.sta.sub.org> ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org (Reimer A. Mellin) writes: >'tiffutil -info <file.fax>' gives some very interesting output. The apparent >truth is, that a fax-file is a tiff which uses a G3/G4 compression (not >packbits!!). But it can be converted into one that does. A relatively unsophisticated TIFF reader wouldn't be expected to understand G3/G4 compression--but it's likely to support PackBits, so this conversion may be useful for interchange. (How do multipage documents differ?) -=EPS=-
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Email questions about transfering multimedia files between 3 platforms Date: 31 Aug 1994 07:20:27 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <341avr$sb8@news.cerf.net> Is there a pc app like NeXTMAIL that allows you to drag and drop graphics and sound with rich text and send them in one email envelope to other pc users? Is there a mac app like NeXTMAIL that allows you to drag and drop graphics and sound with rich text and send them in one email envelope to other mac users? Is there a pc app like NeXTMAIL that allows you to drag and drop graphics and sound with rich text and send them in one email envelope to mac users converted into their format ? Is there a mac app like NeXTMAIL that allows you to drag and drop graphics and sound with rich text and send them in one email envelope to pc users converted into their format? Is there a way to send graphics and sound with rich text from a Next to a pc so it can convert them into it's format? Is there a way to send graphics and sound with rich text from a Next to a mac so it can convert them into it's format? murshid
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mux Driver Date: 30 Aug 1994 08:25:26 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <33umt6$6os@marsu.s.bawue.de> References: <199408290953.JAA10674@beep.roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit silbar@beep.roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) writes: > The annoying thing is that the MUX driver HELPS with file transfers >using zmodem (and TipTop) but faster than 4800 baud still generates CRC >errors. And, I still lose an occasional character (in doing an ls -al >on a big directory) at speeds above 14400 (ZyXel 1496E modem) > My UARTs are 16450's -- is _that_ the problem? YES! I run at 38400 bps to my ZyXEL with 16550 UARTs and the Mux driver and I don't have any problems with lost characters. Just 2000 cps throughput with Taylor- uucp. -- !!! New mail address !!! mow@marsu.s.bawue.de !!! New mail address !!! // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Internal modem on NS/I + SLIP questions Date: 31 Aug 1994 23:55:45 -0400 Organization: College of Computing Distribution: world Message-ID: <343jc1$45f@jazz.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: debaud I was wondering if any of you had any experince with an internal modem inside the intel hardware. More precisely, is it possible to run NS with a modem card acting as a COM device. If so (meaning if that is possible) how was this done and with what type of drivers and modem brand. Also and as an aside question, given the possibility that the above was not possible, how does one create a SLIP line using a modem connected to one of the serial ports. Could anyone refer me to some FTPable soft or Documentation that relates to this? Thanks for the help Jean-Marc debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help Date: 31 Aug 1994 12:39:31 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <341tm3$m1b@news.tamu.edu> References: <33nf4f$1nt@news.tamu.edu> <340p4t$81b@news.iastate.edu> In article <340p4t$81b@news.iastate.edu>, Tom Marchioro <tlm@ameslab.gov> wrote: > >Well, that sounds just grand..... but how come you haven't responded to my >second letter then? Must be the toothpaste I use.....or the shoes. > Ohhmmm. I won't rant. Ohhmmm. I won't let it get to me any more. Ohhmmm. It's because of that @#$@%^@ who wiped the entire !#@$%@#% NeXTstep partition on my machine at home. I'm _almost_ completely back in business now. Lusty alternately taking deep breaths and screaming obscenities -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Newsgroups: alt.fan.mts,alt.travel.road-trip,comp.client-server,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.telecom.tech,comp.groupware,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.org.acm,comp.org.decus,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.isoc.interest,comp.org.issnnet,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.unixware,mi.misc,mi.sun,rec.travel.misc,sci.crypt,umich.networking,umich.org.acm,umich.unix,umich.unix.admin Subject: CFP: Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing Followup-To: comp.org.usenix Date: 31 Aug 1994 14:36:22 GMT Organization: University of Michigan CITI Distribution: world Message-ID: <3424h6$5k1@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Announcement and Preliminary Call for Papers Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing April 10-11, 1995 Ann Arbor, Michigan Sponsored by the USENIX Association The Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location- Independent Computing will provide a major opportunity for researchers and practitioners in this rapidly growing field to exchange ideas and present results of their work. The First Mobile Computing Symposium, held in Boston in August 1993, generated a great deal of interest from the UNIX and mobile computing communities. Since that time, mobile computing has become an even hotter topic, with the size, cost, and power requirements of the equipment going down. The FCC has announced a plan to auction radio spectrum for use of mobile devices, and the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is in the process of standardizing protocols for mobile TCP/IP, including roaming capabilities. Mobile computers are the fastest growing segment of the PC market, airlines are scrambling to provide network connectivity on board, and terminal rooms at computer conferences routinely provide network taps for users who bring their own computers. The 1995 symposium is a single-track symposium offering two days of refereed paper presentations. The symposium will also include panels, Work-in-Progress reports, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions, and a Keynote speaker. Formally reviewed papers, presented during the symposium, will be published in the symposium proceedings. Proceedings will be distributed free to attendees and later will be available for purchase from the USENIX Association. DATES FOR REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS Extended abstracts due: January 2, 1995 Notification to authors: January 23, 1995 Camera-ready final papers due: March 6, 1995 PROGRAM COMMITTEE Program Chair: Jim Rees University of Michigan Jim.Rees@umich.edu Norman Adams Xerox PARC norman@parc.xerox.com Dan Duchamp Columbia University djd@cs.columbia.edu Dan Geer OpenVision Technologies, Inc. geer@cam.ov.com Phil Karn Qualcomm karn@qualcomm.com Jim Kempf Sun Microsystems james.kempf@eng.sun.com Jay Kistler Digital Equipment Corporation jjk@src.dec.com SYMPOSIUM TOPICS We seek original and innovative papers about current developments in mobile and location-independent computing. We are especially interested in reports on practical experiences with mobile systems. The Mobile Computing Symposium will address a wide range of issues and ongoing developments, including, but not limited to: - Applications for the mobile user - Navigation and positioning (GPS, etc.) - Security, especially in wireless environments or when away from home - Caching and disconnected operation of applications and file systems - Communications Protocols, including mobile TCP/IP - Wireless communications (CDPD, CDMA, GSM, Ardis/RAM, cellular modem, etc.), and how they relate to and interact with operating systems and applications - Portable and mobile computing equipment SUBMISSIONS OF REFEREED PAPERS Submission of an extended abstract of 1500-2500 words (9000- 15000 bytes or 3-5 pages) is recommended. Shorter abstracts run a significant risk of rejection as there will be little on which the program committee can base an opinion. Extended abstracts should be sent to Jim Rees at the address below. For administrative reasons (not blind reviewing), each submission should include a separate page or e-mail message giving the title of the paper, the names and affiliations of the authors, and the name of the author who will act as the contact person for the program committee. For the contact person, also include a daytime telephone number, postal address, e-mail address and FAX number if possible. For questions about refereed paper submissions and other program concerns, contact the Program Chair; contact information follows. If you would like to receive detailed guidelines for submission and examples of extended abstracts, you may telephone the USENIX Association office at +1 510 528- 8649 or email to mobile2authors@usenix.org. USENIX symposia, like most symposia and journals, require that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976. WHERE TO SUBMIT Jim Rees CITI University of Michigan 519 West William Ann Arbor, Michigan USA 48103 Internet: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Telephone: +1 313 763-4174 Fax: +1 313 763-4434 FOR REGISTRATION INFORMATION Materials containing all details of the technical and tutorial programs, registration fees and forms, and hotel information will be available beginning in February 1995. If you wish to receive the registration materials, please contact USENIX at: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert Street, Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 Telephone: +1 714 588-8649 Fax: +1 714 588-9706 Internet: conference@usenix.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how to run fsck on a floppy? Message-ID: <1994Aug31.182019.23@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 31 Aug 94 18:20:18 CST Followup-To: poster Organization: As little as I can get away with... A NeXT crashed while a file on a rather important floppy disk was open. Hitting the "Repair" button doesn't help. Console.log tells me that the file is open and to run fsck manually. How do I keep the machine from regurgitating the disk so I can run fsck on it? Thanks, kc
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MTFB for Black Date: 31 Aug 1994 16:06:22 GMT Organization: University of Redlands Message-ID: <3429pu$jov@galaxy.ucr.edu> Hi I'm thinking about trading my Quadra 800 for a NeXTStation '040/25. What I would like to know is: "How long do these machines last before they need repair?". I don't really need tech info, I would rather have personal experiences. Thanks in advance... P.S. I think the machine I'm trading for is circa '92... ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / "I want to know how God created the world...I want to know His / / thoughts. All the rest are details." -Albert Einstein / / / / All flames to dev/null / / / / 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu / /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: Marty Frongillo Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: Upgrade info for Next Cubes Date: 31 Aug 1994 17:53:22 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <342g2i$i93@transfer.stratus.com> My group as access to about a dozen unused Next cubes. They are all disk-less clients. We are looking for someone/company that may be able upgrade and over-haul the machines to bring them "more up-to-date"; both hardware and software. Any pointers would be appreciated. Do you know of any cube resellers out there? -- Marty Frongillo (marty@sw.stratus.com) Isis Customer Support Center (800) 563-9012 (Toll free) 55 Fairbanks Blvd. (508) 490-6646 Marlboro, MA 01752 USA (508) 481-9274 (Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Subject: Tree drawing app Message-ID: <CvF2FC.1uC@relief.com> Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Organization: Relief Consulting & Development Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 20:33:11 GMT A few weeks ago I downloaded an app for generating "nice" views of tree structures. Unfortunately, I deleted it in a bout of housecleaning, but now i can't find it on the archives any more. Does anyone have any pointers to where it is? Thanks, John -- John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com Relief Consulting & Development (206) 743-3953 4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!! Edmonds, WA 98026-4433 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer --
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: My NeXT won't power up, please help Date: 1 Sep 94 14:23:03 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.778429383@budlight> References: <33ovts$smq@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> ferng@irisserv (Ferng) writes: >I turned on my NeXTstation one day, it started to reboot. >Everything looked like normal for 30 seconds, and then >the screen shut off, the computer went down in no time. >There was no power failure. But I can never turn it on >again. It just died. Just a long shot.. I think it might have to do with the battery, I think I once read about it. Check it and replace it if necessary. Good luck!! Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: caam1010@servus12.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Matthias Boehringer) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,stgt.next Subject: NeKSt-Treff am 5. September Date: 1 Sep 1994 12:57:58 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <344j4m$1rgo@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Keywords: NeXT User Group, Meeting, NeKSt Einladung zum Treffen des NeXT Klub Stuttgart (NeKSt) am 5. September 1994 ========================================================================== Fuer alle NeXTstep User und solche, die es werden wollen, findet jeden ersten Montag im Monat um 20.00 Uhr ein Treffen statt. Im monatlichen Wechsel wollen wir uns einmal in den Raeumlichkeiten der Firma CuBE Informationssyteme GmbH im Technologiezentrum, Nobelstr. 15, treffen und da zum Beispiel Vortraege halten, Anwendungen vorstellen, Erfahrungen austauschen, Probleme besprechen, Public Domain Software bereitstellen etc. Das andere Mal wollen wir uns zwanglos, locker bei einem Glas Bier, Wein, Saft... im Sherlock treffen. **************************************************************** * Thema dieses Treffens: - NEXTSTEP auf zwei unterschiedlichen * * Hardwareplattformen * * - WriteUp und PasteUp * **************************************************************** Wie gut laeuft NEXTSTEP auf Pentium-Rechnern, wie gut auf den Geckos? Ja, es gibt die offizielle Release fuer HP-PA zu sehen. Im Bereich Textverarbeitung/DTP/Layout hat sich auch wieder etwas getan. Seit kurzer Zeit gibt es WriteUp und das ehemalige RightBrain- Produkt PasteUp in neuen Versionen. Wir wollen zeigen, was sich hier getan hat. Bis demNeXT, Matthias Kontakt: Matthias Boehringer Tel. privat: (07031) 387178 Tel. gesch.: (0711) 685-4103 -- Matthias Boehringer Inst. f. Anorg. Chemie Matthias.Boehringer@rus.uni-stuttgart.de Uni Stuttgart Pfaffenwaldring 55 no NeXTmail, please D 70550 Stuttgart
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Re: WHY COMMIT TO NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <1994Aug31.163429.19800@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 94 16:34:29 GMT Distribution: inet References: <CutC0H.Lx@nntpa.cb.att.com> <1994Aug22.154718.8412@glv.cen.encompass.com> <garylangCv84ot.2qM@netcom.com> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <garylangCv84ot.2qM@netcom.com> garylang@netcom.com (Gary Lang) writes: >Jeff Wright (wright@encmail.encompass.com) wrote: >: > There are three ways you can minimize your risk: >: > >: > 1. Only buy your software from large companies unlikely to go >: > bankrupt (e.g. Microsoft, AT&T, IBM, etc.) and unlikely to discontinue >: > a product. > >: I believe that large companies are at least as likely to suddenly discontinue >: products as small companies, if not more so. I'm not talking about >: bankruptcy, but about just discontinuing products due to not fitting some new >: business strategy. Large companies seem to take the attitude they can afford >: the bad will, or that they can offer a migration path, or whatever. > >Right. "Lotus announces that despite a commanding leadership in the >spreadsheet business, they are stoppin the development and delivery >of 1-2-3 as of today. They have no spreadsheets to replace it." Closer than you think: August 15, 1994 Thank you for using Lotus Improv. ... In order to help you with your technological planning, I want to let you know that Lotus is focused on incorporating elements of Improv technology into 1-2-3 and other Lotus products and has decided not to develop future, standalone releases of Improv. I liked Improv so much on the NeXT that I got it for my kids' PCs and told anybody who would listen to buy a copy for their PC. So much for my technological planning, but then, I also own a Cube! -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (Armin Retzko) Subject: Re: Tree drawing app Message-ID: <armin.778412636@master> Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: RRZN References: <CvF2FC.1uC@relief.com> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:43:56 GMT jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) writes: >A few weeks ago I downloaded an app for generating "nice" views of tree >structures. Unfortunately, I deleted it in a bout of housecleaning, but now >i can't find it on the archives any more. Does anyone have any pointers to >where it is? Host: cs.orst.edu File: /pub/next/submissions/Wood.NI.b.tar.gz or Host: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de File: /pub/comp/platforms/next/Wood.0.6.b.NI.tar.gz -------------------------------------------------------------- Armin Retzko Schumannstr.5 30823 Garbsen Germany e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de -------------------------------------------------------------- -- Armin Retzko e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how to run fsck on a floppy? Message-ID: <1994Sep1.135854.408@ittpub> From: derek@ittpub.nl Date: 1 Sep 94 13:58:54 WET References: <1994Aug31.182019.23@titan.sfasu.edu> In article <1994Aug31.182019.23@titan.sfasu.edu> writes: > A NeXT crashed while a file on a rather important floppy disk was > open. Hitting the "Repair" button doesn't help. Console.log tells me > that the file is open and to run fsck manually. > > How do I keep the machine from regurgitating the disk so I can run fsck > on it? > > Thanks, kc I presume you have a Black Next. If so you'll probably have to boot single user in order to run fsck. I had a similar problem a while ago. I needed to tar directly off a floppy disk some software we had purchased. The only way to do this was single user. Of course, when everyone has Intel machines, this won't be a problem. -- Derek Denyer - derek@ittpub.nl | | Nobody can read my signature anyway.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how to run fsck on a floppy? Message-ID: <1994Sep1.135923.410@ittpub> From: derek@ittpub.nl Date: 1 Sep 94 13:59:23 WET References: <1994Aug31.182019.23@titan.sfasu.edu> In article <1994Aug31.182019.23@titan.sfasu.edu> writes: > A NeXT crashed while a file on a rather important floppy disk was > open. Hitting the "Repair" button doesn't help. Console.log tells me > that the file is open and to run fsck manually. > > How do I keep the machine from regurgitating the disk so I can run fsck > on it? > > Thanks, kc I presume you have a Black Next. If so you'll probably have to boot single user in order to run fsck. I had a similar problem a while ago. I needed to tar directly off a floppy disk some software we had purchased. The only way to do this was single user. Of course, when everyone has Intel machines, this won't be a problem. -- Derek Denyer - derek@ittpub.nl | | Nobody can read my signature anyway.
From: TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: PPD for Apple LWSelect 360 Date: 1 Sep 1994 07:35:41 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <24090107345644@wishep.physics.wisc.edu> Could some kind soul send me the PPD file for the Apple Laserwriter Select 360? I purchased it yesterday, but it seems that Apple no longer puts PPD files on the printer disks. There are some odd binary files in the printer description folder on one of the disks, but no PPDs. Thanks. Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how to run fsck on a floppy? Message-ID: <1994Sep1.140345.411@ittpub> From: derek@ittpub.nl Date: 1 Sep 94 14:03:45 WET References: <1994Aug31.182019.23@titan.sfasu.edu> In article <1994Aug31.182019.23@titan.sfasu.edu> writes: > A NeXT crashed while a file on a rather important floppy disk was > open. Hitting the "Repair" button doesn't help. Console.log tells me > that the file is open and to run fsck manually. > > How do I keep the machine from regurgitating the disk so I can run fsck > on it? > > Thanks, kc I presure you have Black next. If so you'll have to boot single-user to prevent the disk being spat back out at you every time you insert it. Alternatively, find a friendly NS/I user. -- Derek Denyer - derek@ittpub.nl | | Nobody can read my signature anyway.
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how to run fsck on a floppy? Date: 1 Sep 1994 13:28:08 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <344kt8$6bv@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Sep1.135923.410@ittpub> In article <1994Sep1.135923.410@ittpub> writes: # I presume you have a Black Next. If so you'll probably have to boot # single user in order to run fsck. I had a similar problem a while # ago. I needed to tar directly off a floppy disk some software we had # purchased. The only way to do this was single user. No, that's not the only way to do it. Just run the command before you put the diskette in. A panel will then pop up asking you to insert the disk. joe
From: tpg@mr.net (Terry Gliedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dynamic SLIP addresses & TransSys PNI 1.11 Date: 1 Sep 1994 10:23:53 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <YiNTBT1z0001E0PO9y@mr.net> Some time ago I posted a query about configuring PNI for dynamic slip addresses. I got several helpful responses from people (even one phone call) and my solution was quite easy. The trick is to capture a line from the other end (in my case this says "Your IP address is xx.xx.xx.xx. MTU is xx bytes). Here is a fragment from my login.tcl script... Thanks again for the help. # Other end responds with my IP address # Use regular-expression based expect command to match addresses in msg set timeout 10 while { 1 } { $DIALER rexpect \ {Your IP address is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+)\. MTU is ([0-9]+) bytes} { break } } syslog LOG_DEBUG "Entering SLIP mode as address $1 MTU $2" # # Now I have the correct IP address, issue ifconfig to complete everything # exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 $1 =================================================================== Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710
From: tpg@mr.net (Terry Gliedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PNI and off-hook problem Date: 1 Sep 1994 10:33:22 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <YiNTKMpz000100POVi@mr.net> I now have PNI connecting just fine for my SLIP connection using a ZOOM 144 v.32bis modem. When I end the SLIP session, the modem link is not dropped. The documentation says that it will turn DTR off which should drop the modem. I found a modem register which can be set which will drop the connection when DTR is turned off for N seconds. The lowest value for N is 1 and it appears that PNI simply drops DTR and then turns it back on so the modem does not drop the line. Or this is what I THINK is going on. So can anyone else confirm this? or offer an alternative?? Thanks in advance. =================================================================== Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710
From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MultiSound SoundKit driver? Date: 1 Sep 1994 16:51:00 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3450pk$efv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Keywords: sound, driver Some time ago I read about somebody being doing work on a SoundKit driver for the MultiSound card (from Turtle Beach). Of course I think I saved the article, but I can't find it anywhere :-) News? Contacts? Thanks in advance for any help. -- Fernando nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: hayward@biblio.ucs.sfu.ca (Michael Hayward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: nslookup: why in debug mode? Date: 1 Sep 1994 16:27:38 GMT Organization: Simon Fraser University Message-ID: <344vdq$lko@seymour.sfu.ca> A minor issue, but annoying: when I invoke "nslookup" it is in debug mode (contrary to man page documentation). "set nodebug" in interactive mode does turn it off, but when I tried putting the "set nodebug" command in a ".nslookuprc" file, it is ignored (although other commands I've tried in the file are processed, indicating that the file is being read). Also, if I try turning debug off with a command line option ("nslookup -nodebug") it fails as well. Is this the case with others running NS 3.2? Has anyone found a reason and/or a fix? As I said: minor, but annoying. ..Michael Hayward Email: hayward@sfu.ca
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Kermit UPPERCASE FILES Date: 1 Sep 1994 16:42:12 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <345094$4nb@news.bu.edu> For some reason whenever I receive files from kermit, it converts all the filenames to uppercase. Like if a file was called: thisfile.tar.gz It comes through as: THISFILEXTARXGZ Kermit is amazing and pulls through in really awful line conditions, but why does it do that, and what do I put into .kermrc to get it to stop! ???
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MultiSound SoundKit driver? Date: 1 Sep 1994 17:24:00 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <3452ng$cvk@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <3450pk$efv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <3450pk$efv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano) writes: >Some time ago I read about somebody being doing work on a SoundKit driver >for the MultiSound card (from Turtle Beach). Of course I think I saved the >article, but I can't find it anywhere :-) You should get my NewsIndex* for DL from the FTP sites. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 (NeXT & MIME mails welcome.) The following must be the article you saved: ---- forwarded message -------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: DSP card for NS/FIP Message-ID: <CqDr2t.E54@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <2rvji8$75p@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 22:42:28 GMT Lines: 36 In article <2rvji8$75p@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) writes: > I have heart that there is a DSP card for Intel machine which >can map to the I/O port of NeXT workstation. My teacher want to >use it for his project. > > Does anybody have any information about it, like which company product it, >Email address, how much does it cost? > > > Many thanks, > >Mark > Ariel Corporation, 433 River Road, Highland Park, NJ 08904 USA Ph: 908-249-2900 Fax 908-249-2123 make a DSP plug-in card for the PC which has a NeXT compatible DSP port on it. Two problems exist: (a) you'll need to write a NeXTSTEP device driver for it; and (b) it only has 8-bit companded audio i/o (or maybe 12-bit-- I can't find my spec sheet). I am currently writing a driver for the Turtle Beach Multisound. ------------------- David R. Hill, P.Eng., Professor Emeritus, U of Calgary, Dept. of Computer Science | Imagination is more The University of Calgary | important than knowledge. Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1N4 | (Albert Einstein) Ph: (403) 220-6315 email: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Kermit UPPERCASE FILES Date: 01 Sep 1994 19:00:25 GMT Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science Message-ID: <SOWA.94Sep1120025@amdew.llnl.gov> References: <345094$4nb@news.bu.edu> In-reply-to: bbry@bu.edu's message of 1 Sep 1994 16:42:12 GMT >>>>> "Bryony" == Bryony Bechtold <bbry@bu.edu> writes: Bryony> For some reason whenever I receive files from kermit, it Bryony> converts all the filenames to uppercase. Bryony> Kermit is amazing and pulls through in really awful line Bryony> conditions, but why does it do that, and what do I put into Bryony> .kermrc to get it to stop! ??? set file names literal -- erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kenw@tfs.com (Ken Worthy) Subject: Printing many .rtf or .ps files Message-ID: <CvGtHr.3KE@tfs.com> Organization: TRW Financial Systems Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 19:15:26 GMT The GUI is great and all, but one thing it doesn't seem to be very good at is processing many files. I have a tree-full of .rtf files (OpenStep doc, e.g.) that I want to print, and I don't want to open each in Edit.app, click print, etc. There must be an easy way to print .rtf files from the command line, and then I can use 'find' to start the jobs, but I couldn't find it in the documentation. This brings up the general question of how to access the various menu items of an app if you start them from the command line. Anyone know? Ken
From: johnpg@teleport.com (J.P. Goodyear) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Will NSFIP 3.2 work with Cyrix/AMD? Date: 1 Sep 1994 12:49:02 -0700 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <345b7e$4ag@linda.teleport.com> Does Nextstep for Intel work on systems with a Cyrix or AMD 486DX-33. I can't seem to find the answer to this.
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: How can I create new spelling dictionaries for NEXTSTEP? Date: 1 Sep 1994 20:53:25 GMT Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <345f05$sbs@due.uninett.no> Is there a way to use an ascii list of words to create a new customized dictionary that can be used with Edit instead of the regular dictionary? I need a Norwegian dictionary that beeps on english words. To use the english dictionary customized to not stop on Norwegian words and stop on english words, is not an option because I still want the english dictionary to be intact in order to correct english texts. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ \ystein Dugstad Eystein Dugstad H|gskulen i Sogn og Fjordane Sogn og Fjordane College Avdeling for ingeni|rutdanning Engineering Department Postoks 523 P.O. Box 523 6800 F|rde N-6800 FORDE
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will NSFIP 3.2 work with Cyrix/AMD? Date: 1 Sep 1994 23:58:45 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <345prl$efh@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <345b7e$4ag@linda.teleport.com> J.P. Goodyear (johnpg@teleport.com) wrote: : Does Nextstep for Intel work on systems with a Cyrix or AMD 486DX-33. I : can't seem to find the answer to this. It works just fine on my AMD 486DX-40.
From: trance9@clark.net (Trance 9) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help! How do I get tickleservice running again Date: 1 Sep 1994 21:29:24 -0400 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <345v5k$mst@explorer.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I recently, after an inexplicable and horrible crash, had to erase my boot disk and start all over again. I now can't get tickle services running. I'l using a 3.0 NeXTstation, and I've tried all of the suggestions in the online manual. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me. Peace, James
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: talk, public window server under PNI with Dynamic IP? Date: 2 Sep 1994 01:53:48 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <3460jc$4dh@news.service.uci.edu> References: <YiNTBT1z0001E0PO9y@mr.net> In article <YiNTBT1z0001E0PO9y@mr.net> tpg@mr.net (Terry Gliedt) writes: > Some time ago I posted a query about configuring PNI for dynamic slip > addresses. I got several helpful responses from people (even one phone > call) and my solution was quite easy. The trick is to capture a line > from the other end (in my case this says "Your IP address is > xx.xx.xx.xx. MTU is xx bytes). Here is a fragment from my login.tcl > script... > > Thanks again for the help. > > > # Other end responds with my IP address > # Use regular-expression based expect command to match addresses in msg > set timeout 10 > while { 1 } { > $DIALER rexpect \ > {Your IP address is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+)\. > MTU is ([0-9]+) bytes} { break } > } > syslog LOG_DEBUG "Entering SLIP mode as address $1 MTU $2" > # > # Now I have the correct IP address, issue ifconfig to complete everything > # > exec /etc/ifconfig pni0 $1 > > =================================================================== > Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710 I have my login.tcl file setup similarly for our slip site at UC Irvine, plus I also added a line to get the routing exec /usr/etc/route add $1 127.0.0.1 0 I am not sure if this line is necessary but I find you will have to wait long for the printer panel to come up if you choose Print from any application without this line. Everything works fine except I can not do talk(either initiating or replying to a request), and I can not use my slip-connected Intel machine as a public window server to run programs on a Black at work. Every time I run OpenSesame or "rsh command -NXHost slip-hostname", it always complains "can not connect to remote host". Our SLIP site gives dynamics IP and also a hostname like slipxxxx.nts.uci.edu associated with the IP. I could rlogin in to my slip-connected machine by using this assigned hostname(My machine is of course set to a different name since I do not know before the slip connection what name is going to be given to me.) I tried all of the following options: 1. rename my hostname to the one given to me after the connection. 2. set an alias for localhost to my machine name in netinfo 3. create an entry with the given IP and hostname in netinfo and alias it to the local hostname None of them worked. With talk, I sometimes got "Checking for invitation on caller's machine" or "unknown socket" type of messages But was never successfully connected. I am getting quite frustrated and wish that PNI is easier to setup. I also tried to get a modem on the Black slab at work and connect directly to the Next machine with a fixed IP(which I obtained already). It took me a couple of days to setup everything according to the PNI manual. I could now dial in, get connected, but the connection just hangs. The messages on both the server and the client seem to say they are connected and commands have been executed, but I simply connot do anything. The server is set up to have a login name pni0 so whenever I dial in the serial port will automatically login as pni0. If I use a terminal emulator to dial in I see the server giving out the IP address and going into slip. I followed all the instructions available from the PNI1.11 manual and wonder if there are tricks that I have to do, particularly with such things as routine. here is my pni0.config file on the server: ## PART I. ## PART I. set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0 set Config(pni:MTU) 1524 set Config(pni:ADDRESS) 128.200.90.50 set Config(pni:REMOTEADDRESS) 128.200.90.30 set Config(pni:NETWORKMASK) 255.255.255.0 set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 1 set Config(slip:MODE) slip # PART II. stack PNI pni stack SLIP slip stack TTY tty # PART III. proc LINK_start { encap } { log "LINK $encap connected" } proc LINK_stop { encap } { log "LINK $encap disconnected" } I would appreciate anyone's help to solve the above problems. Please send me an e-mail or post a message on the net. If I could get either the dynamic IP option or the direct connection option to work, it means that I can run many applications on the Next machine at work from an Intel machine at home. I assume many next users must be interested in that too. By the way, I tried to use an intel machine connected via ethernet as a public server for the same black next machine. It works just fine. So it is definitely the slip connection problem. Thanks a lot to everyone. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 e-mai: fliu@uci.edu phone: 714-725-3105
Control: cancel <slfinkCvH0Cw.vw@netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: slfink@netcom.com (Steven Finkelman) Subject: cancel <slfinkCvH0Cw.vw@netcom.com> Message-ID: <slfinkCvHGKC.Fvu@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 03:33:46 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL1] -- Steven Finkelman DATA/Massage slfink@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit Message-ID: <CvAw5J.uy@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Keywords: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 14:27:19 GMT Is there a driver in the works for the ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit board? I'm trying to do an install for a friend, and he has the VLB 4MB board, but not having a whole lot of luck with the stock ATI Driver (which was written for the 68800 chipset, not the 68860 chipset in the Turbo 64. We're stuck in 640 x 480 greyscale right now...SUURE would be nice to be able to harness the power of this board!! Anyone?? -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: 200MB SCSI swap disk? Message-ID: <jpanicoCvI9KI.5tw@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:00:18 GMT Hi, Is it possible to build a 200MB SCSI swap disk? The documentation is confusing and seems to be a little outta date. The 200MB drive is currently SCSI id 1 (the boot NeXT disk is id 0) and has MS-DOG on it. I tried using BuildDisk App, but there are two problems associated with this: 1) BuildDisk says: "Error, cannot initaliaze disk", when I tell it to "build" the disk. 2) Even if it did build it, it would build it as a NeXT regular file system disk, not a swap disk. Does anyone know what sort of performance gains accrue from using a 200MB swap disk rather than the swap files in /private on the boot disk? I would use a smaller disk, but 200 is the smalleest SCSI I have laying around. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: mcnichol@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Brendon McNichols) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quix Computerware still in business? Date: 2 Sep 1994 14:54:10 GMT Organization: CASE Center, Syracuse University Distribution: world Message-ID: <347eai$al9@newstand.syr.edu> Hi All, I heard a rumor a while ago that Quix Computerware, the company that sells the daydream Macintosh ROM box, had gone out of business. Is this true? If they are still in business, how can I get in touch with them or who can I contact to buy a daydream? Thanks, Brendan --- Brendan T. McNichols Computer Support - Syracuse University Math. Dept. Syracuse, NY 13244 (315) 443-1588 mcnichol@syr.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: misc kit Message-ID: <CvIBEJ.96z@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:39:53 GMT Anyone know where Misc Kit is? What would be the price? -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: 200MB SCSI swap disk? Message-ID: <jpanicoCvIMBF.3Dz@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <jpanicoCvI9KI.5tw@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 18:35:39 GMT Joe Panico (jpanico@netcom.com) wrote: : Hi, : Is it possible to build a 200MB SCSI swap disk? The documentation is : confusing and seems to be a little outta date. The 200MB drive is : currently SCSI id 1 (the boot NeXT disk is id 0) and has MS-DOG : on it. I tried using BuildDisk App, but there are two problems associated : with this: : 1) BuildDisk says: "Error, cannot initaliaze disk", when I tell it to : "build" the disk. : 2) Even if it did build it, it would build it as a NeXT regular file : system disk, not a swap disk. : Does anyone know what sort of performance gains accrue from using : a 200MB swap disk rather than the swap files in /private on the boot : disk? I would use a smaller disk, but 200 is the smalleest SCSI : I have laying around. : Joe Panico : jpanico@netcom.com Never mind. I got it going. Thanks anyhow ;) Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Zen and the Art of Debugging? Message-ID: <jpanicoCvIMCy.3I7@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 18:36:34 GMT Does anyone know where I can find "Zen and the Art of Debugging"? Thanks. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: Norman Field <norman@curie.igpp.ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where to Repair NeXT Printer? Date: 2 Sep 1994 19:21:07 GMT Organization: UCLA Distribution: world Message-ID: <347tv3$srf@news.mic.ucla.edu> Where can I get my broken NeXT printer serviced? The problem seems to be in the power supply (possibly only a failed fuse, but I can't seem to get in there to check). I live in Los Angeles and was hoping to be able to take the printer somewhere around here. Norman Field System Administrator UCLA norman@curie.igpp.ucla.edu
From: dl@oleane.net (Denis Lafont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help! How do I get tickleservice running again Date: 2 Sep 1994 18:09:21 GMT Organization: OleANe Ceane Networks Message-ID: <347poh$i2b@relay2.oleane.net> References: <345v5k$mst@explorer.clark.net> In article <345v5k$mst@explorer.clark.net> trance9@clark.net (Trance 9) writes: > I recently, after an inexplicable and horrible crash, had to erase my > boot disk and start all over again. I now can't get tickle services > running. I'l using a 3.0 NeXTstation, and I've tried all of the TickleServices is not bundled in NS. Tjis is shareware. You can find it on: ftp://cs.orst.edu//pub/next/binaries/programming/demos/ Hopw this helps, D. -- =================================================================== Denis Lafont Email: dl@oleane.net Tel: (33-1) 43.28.32.32 OLEANE French INTERNET provider WWW:http://www.oleane.net/ "Soyez vous memes, reellement, connectes au monde de l'INTERNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de (Ingo Schaefer) Subject: Syquest drive & NS3.2 ? Message-ID: <1994Sep2.215018.395@nimbus.ruhr.de> Organization: Private Site Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 21:50:18 GMT Is it possible to use a SQ3270 SCSI drive with NS3.2 (Intel) ??? Thanx for any informations.... eMail: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de
From: uk05790@mik.uky.edu (victor e garzon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printing TeX produced ps files with Dots Date: 2 Sep 94 20:07:34 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <uk05790.778536454@mik.uky.edu> Summary: Printing TeX produced ps files with Dots Keywords: Printing TeX produced ps files with Dots I have some problems when printing TeX-produced ps files using the Dots driver in my Canon BJC-600 printer. The main problem is that the printed page will start a few lines below the expected beginning of the page, so that it will not fit in one piece of paper but rather, it will run into the next. The same ps files seem to work fine on real ps printers. Also, other ps files produced by different packages work fine. I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.offered,comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> Subject: LEX, KY: Oracle DBA Needed (6.033) Message-ID: <1994Sep1.204146.10687@KYnug.org> Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene) Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc. Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 20:41:46 GMT The Association of Racing Commissioners International has an immediate position opening for an Oracle database administrator and system administrator in a unix environment. This candidate should have at least 3 years Oracle database experience with various Oracle products and a working knowledge of NEXTSTEP. REQUIRED SKILLS Misc: Windows TCP/IP NFS BSD 4.3 Shell programming (csh, ksh, zsh) Oracle Tools: SQL*Menu 5.0 SQL*Forms 3.0 SQL*Reportwriter 1 RDBMS 6.0.33 Current Platform: NEXTSTEP 3.2 Future Platform: SunOS or HP/UX ADDITIONAL SKILLS (not required, but a plus) Oracle 7 C, C++ Microsoft Access CASE Perl Awk Sed Oraperl Revision Control Systems (RCS) Peachtree Accounting SunOS, HP/UX The RCI currently has a mixed network including 100% compatible pcs, Macintosh, motorola and intel boxes running NEXTSTEP. * Candidate will work primarily under Oracle in maintaining an Oracle database used by racing jurisdictions and race tracks around the world to complete background searches on applicants requesting licenses prior to racing. This system currently uses some of the most advanced SMARTcard technology in general use today! * Candidate should posses good communication and speaking skills. * Candidate will also assist office staff and personnel with computer questions and problems on a daily basis. * Candidate will also be responsible in migrating existing Oracle environment to Oracle 7.# under SunOS or HP/UX. Please email your replies to Neil@KYnug.org, fax to RCI at 606-224-0607 or mail to the address below: ARCI, Inc. Two Paragon Centre 2343 Alexandria Drive, Suite 200 Lexington, KY 40504 -- Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR] 2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503 Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 200MB SCSI swap disk? Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 18:28:04 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <oiNuPou00iV6M_IvQU@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <jpanicoCvI9KI.5tw@netcom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 2-Sep-94 200MB SCSI swap disk? by Joe Panico@netcom.com > Is it possible to build a 200MB SCSI swap disk? The documentation is > confusing and seems to be a little outta date. The 200MB drive is > currently SCSI id 1 (the boot NeXT disk is id 0) and has MS-DOG > on it. I tried using BuildDisk App, but there are two problems associated > with this: > > 1) BuildDisk says: "Error, cannot initaliaze disk", when I tell it to > "build" the disk. Try using /usr/etc/disk to reformat the drive. In order to use it as a swapdisk, all you have to do is name the disk "swapdisk". Not very hard. > 2) Even if it did build it, it would build it as a NeXT regular file > system disk, not a swap disk. There is no difference. A NeXT swapdisk is just a regular NeXT filesystem with a swapfile on it. > Does anyone know what sort of performance gains accrue from using > a 200MB swap disk rather than the swap files in /private on the boot > disk? I would use a smaller disk, but 200 is the smalleest SCSI > I have laying around. I've found that my system has been more responsive and has been much more stable after using my original 250 MB Seagate as a swapdrive. YMMV. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: jclee@maui.next.com (James C. Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Chinese NeXT? Date: 2 Sep 1994 22:15:05 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <348859$150@rosie.next.com> A friend is thinking about starting a business in Taiwan, and I'm investigating how to integrate a system for the business need. Since it involves writing a little custom app, I'm looking into the feasibility of doing this on NEXTSTEP. I heard that someone has a working implementation of Chinese system on NEXTSTEP? If so, please email me with info. Any Chinese Oracle or Sybase support info would be very useful too. Thanks for any leads. ^James
From: escco@tree.egr.uh.edu (Fazia Begum Rizvi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Question: Mail filter? Date: 3 Sep 1994 00:57:14 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <348hla$9gt@masala.cc.uh.edu> I hope I've picked the right newsgroup for this question... First, does anyone know of a good manual of NeXT/MACH commands and programming? Second, Does anyone know how I can make my NeXT mailer automatically direct mail to different folders. I.e. is there somekind of mail filter file I can write? If so, how? I've asked some of my Unix freinds, but unfortunately the advice given doesn't seem to work. I get a lot of e-mail from various lists and I'd like for my mailer to automatically shunt them to other mboxes. Since I archive much of the stuff that I recieve, it's a real pain to go through 200 messages a day by hand, even in the niceness of Mail.apps. I hope that I managed to get my question across too. :-) Thanks for any help, -Faz
From: idddsb@iddss1.iddis.com (Dean Banfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to preserve setuid? Date: 03 Sep 1994 02:21:27 GMT Organization: IDD Information Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <IDDDSB.94Sep2222127@iddss1.iddis.com> References: <PJS.94Aug26142410@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> <33nhvd$pde@runner.uucp> In-reply-to: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu's message of 27 Aug 1994 07:18:21 -0700 In article <33nhvd$pde@runner.uucp> richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) writes: >Paul J. Sanchez (pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu) wrote: >: I'm trying to find the simplest way to move my base of operations to a >: new and larger disk. I tried piping dump into restore, but it doesn't >: preserve setuid permissions and I'd rather not filter a gigabyte of >: files to decide what to do manually. >: Am I overlooking something obvious? >Try using tar (or even better, gnutar) .... My favorite man reference for administrative utility: tar can also be used to copy hierarchies with the command: example% cd fromdir; tar cf - . | (cd todir; tar xfBp -) Verbatim from the tar man page. Works very well. Retains empty directories, which cp seems to ignore. Retains ownership and perms, but I haven't tried to test for the setuid condition (which is just a special case of perms). My $.02 -Dean -- Dean Banfield IDD/Information Svcs 90 Grove St Ridgefield CT 06877
From: idddsb@iddss1.iddis.com (Dean Banfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/I time vs. MS-DOS time Date: 03 Sep 1994 02:11:56 GMT Organization: IDD Information Services Distribution: usa Message-ID: <IDDDSB.94Sep2221158@iddss1.iddis.com> References: <1994Aug26.044816.30492@iitmax.iit.edu> <Cv7B61.F3q@nextsrv1.andi.org> In-reply-to: bchin@andi.org's message of Sat, 27 Aug 1994 16:01:13 GMT In article <Cv7B61.F3q@nextsrv1.andi.org> bchin@andi.org (Bill Chin) writes: : In article <1994Aug26.044816.30492@iitmax.iit.edu> falke@iitmax.iit.edu : (Falke Bruinsma) writes: : > I use both MS-DOS and NS/I on my PC and have found one very annoying : > problem. MS-DOS assumes that the time stored is local time, while NS/I : > assumes it is greenwich time... So whenever I switch both clocks get : > screwed up and always have to reset the times when I go from NS/I to : > MS=DOS or vice-versa. : If you have TCP/IP on the DOS side and you have a time server on the : network, when you boot DOS you can have it set the time according to the : time server. When you boot back into NEXTSTEP, NEXTSTEP can also query the : time server for the correct time. Check out the docs on ntp and see if you : TCP/IP package has it included. I'm in standalone mode, so the elegant time server solution won't cut it. I found it to be annoying, then just got over it and left my machine in GMT, so everything looks good under NS. I thought about an AUTOEXEC hack that would do something like: c:\>time > junk.dat [manipulate output to deduct 4/5 hours for ESTEDT] c:\>time < junk.dat It would have to be reversed upon exit from dos, but if I run directly into Windows from AUTOEXEC, then I could adjust it back as I exit Windows and I'm still a captive of AUTOEXEC. Didn't think of how to do the time math within the rudimentary .BAT language. A more powerful script is possible in /etc/rc.local on the NS side, and the clock would have to be reset on the way out. Anyone with suggestions for a code scrap would be welcome. I just haven't given the thing much thought as it doesn't bother me enough. Sorry. -Dean -- Dean Banfield IDD/Information Svcs 90 Grove St Ridgefield CT 06877
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: slfink@netcom.com (Steven Finkelman) Subject: NeXT file format identification needed Message-ID: <slfinkCvJFtn.Cs6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 05:12:59 GMT I have succeeded in decoding next .snd files and rtf from NeXT-Attach on a PC. I can run dos and windows.. I have uudecoded, uncompressed and untarred the file. I also need to decode a graphic file. I cant identify the stuff in the header. could someone please help me identify the style of graphic and what I might need to use to view it on PC. (besides nextstep) under dos or windows. header on first block of file, non-ascii characters have been removed each grouping represents a line from the file, there were seperator characters (non printable) seperating the text. strings enclosed in <> indicate the type of data present: header from the first file: typedstream PrintInfo Object ffff d Letter <print device name> NeXT Color Printer <non ascii characters > ---------------------------MY GUESS IS THAT THIS IS THE dps setup Second block: <internet address> List GraphicViewTextArt GraphicViewStoneDesign GraphicView View Responder AcceptingView Image 6 Graphic RotImage NXImage NXBitmapImageRep NXImageRep <many blocks of non ascii characters> -------------------------my guess is that this is the file description or steps taken to process the file. Thanks in advance. -- Steven Finkelman DATA/Massage slfink@netcom.com
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: misc kit Date: 3 Sep 1994 07:32:54 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3498r6$393@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <CvIBEJ.96z@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes ) Anyone know where Misc Kit is? ) What would be the price? Free and you can get it from ftp://ftp.et.byu.edu/pub/next/misckit or, if without ftp access, contact me... -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: misc kit Message-ID: <jpanicoCvK2oo.D3v@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <CvIBEJ.96z@txnews.amd.com> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 13:26:47 GMT charles.herrick@amd.com wrote: : Anyone know where Misc Kit is? : What would be the price? : -- : personal opinions It's free. Look in cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/sources/objects or /pub/next/binaries/objects. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing many .rtf or .ps files Date: 3 Sep 1994 09:27:11 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9409031427.AA02407@cantina.lanl.gov> kenw@tfs.com (Ken Worthy) wrote: > I have a tree-full of .rtf files (OpenStep doc, e.g.) > that I want to print, and I don't want to open each in > Edit.app, click print, etc. > > There must be an easy way to print .rtf files from the > command line, and then I can use 'find' to start the > jobs, but I couldn't find it in the documentation. This > brings up the general question of how to access the > various menu items of an app if you start them from the > command line. The man pages suggest 'open -p *.rtf' will do this. However, I seem to remember posting once (back in 3.0 days?) about problems with this and how to get around them. Unfortunately, I won't be at the machine where that posting might have been saved until Tuesday ... remind me then, if needed. Dick Silbar, WhistleSoft, Inc. 505-662-7309 (voice) 505-662-7601 (fax) silbar@beep.roadrunner.com
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is Quix still around? Whats the story? Date: 3 Sep 1994 09:14:49 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <34a7dp$90l@spock.dis.cccd.edu> I was looking forward to their next software version and now I hear they might be gone. Anyone know whats up? maurices
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 3 Sep 1994 00:28:41 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <348u1p$eju@anshar.shadow.net> References: <CvAw5J.uy@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Damon F. Cooper (damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net) wrote: : Is there a driver in the works for the ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit : board? I'm trying to do an install for a friend, and he has the VLB 4MB : board, but not having a whole lot of luck with the stock ATI Driver (which : was written for the 68800 chipset, not the 68860 chipset in the Turbo 64. : We're stuck in 640 x 480 greyscale right now...SUURE would be nice to be : able to harness the power of this board!! : Anyone?? Yes, a driver for the Graphics Pro Turbo is available NOW from Talus Imaging (713-561-0700) Ask for Dan Kramer. The board will give you 1280x1024, 32-bit color, VERY FAST. Jay Fuchs Jaytron Products Corporation 1-800-327-5180 Suppliers of Motion Detectors, Customer Counters, & Custom Solutions (305) 653-6925 (305) 654-2815 Fax jjfox@shadow.net
From: gregf@fpl91.Berkeley.EDU (Greg C. Foliente) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Chinese NeXT? Date: 3 Sep 1994 17:25:37 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <34abih$ekv@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <348859$150@rosie.next.com> In article <348859$150@rosie.next.com> jclee@maui.next.com (James C. Lee) writes: #A friend is thinking about starting a business in Taiwan, and I'm #investigating how to integrate a system for the business need. Since it #involves writing a little custom app, I'm looking into the feasibility of #doing this on NEXTSTEP. # #I heard that someone has a working implementation of Chinese system on #NEXTSTEP? If so, please email me with info. Any Chinese Oracle or Sybase #support info would be very useful too. Thanks for any leads. # #^James Have you contacted.... Tony Guo President of Taiwan NeXT User Group tony@formosa.dorm12.nctu.edu.tw (NeXTmail enjoyed) He may have some info. Good luck, Greg -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg C. Foliente gregf@nature.berkeley.edu FPL, UC-Berkeley (NeXTMail) gregf@fpl91.berkeley.edu 1301 South 46th St, Richmond, CA 94804 phone: (510) 215-4282 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw (Jesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Chinese NeXT? Date: 3 Sep 1994 20:26:40 GMT Organization: Div.Cardiology, National Defense Medical Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <34am60$od7@aladdin.iii.org.tw> References: <348859$150@rosie.next.com> <34abih$ekv@agate.berkeley.edu> You may get info from Mr.Joseph Kang at idpt353@tpts1.seed.net.tw. Simon Chih-L Han MB idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw Div. of Cardiovascular Medicine National Defense Medical Center What will the future????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????The future is now....................................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de (Ingo Schaefer) Subject: Driver for IOmega Floppy Streamer Message-ID: <1994Sep3.235408.334@nimbus.ruhr.de> Organization: Private Site Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 23:54:08 GMT Is there a driver for an IOmega floppy-streamer available ??? Thankx in advance....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: Syquest drive & NS3.2 ? Message-ID: <jpanicoCvL1Lw.Kux@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <1994Sep2.215018.395@nimbus.ruhr.de> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 02:01:08 GMT Ingo Schaefer (snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de) wrote: : Is it possible to use a SQ3270 SCSI drive with NS3.2 (Intel) ??? : Thanx for any informations.... : eMail: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de Yes. I'm currently running the 105MB Syquest Marlin (external SCSI) under NSI 3.2. It works flawlessly with NS filesystems and is almost as fast as a regular HD. It also works well with MS-DOG filesystems that have been formatted under DOS (though there may be some flaky behaviour under certain circumstances). Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: old Scene .ps movies Date: 4 Sep 1994 02:52:01 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <34bcoi$c2g@news.bu.edu> Is there an archive available anywhere online where its possible to download all the postscript movies that used to be included for the old scene app in the 2.x releases of NeXTSTEP? If not, would anyone who still has these movies, and is willing to take a moment to pack them up, mail them to me? I would love to have these again, from what I remember they were all .ps format and didn't need scene, or any special app to use, other then display postscript. Thanks!
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: old Scene .ps movies Date: 4 Sep 1994 02:52:42 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <34bcpq$c2g@news.bu.edu> Is there an archive available anyvwhere online where its possible to download all the postscript movies that used to be included for the old scene app in thes 2.x releases of NeXTSTEP? If not, would anyone who still has these movies, and is willing to take a moment to pack them up, mail them to me? I would love to have these again, from what gI remember they were all .ps format and didn't need scene, or any special app to use, other then display postscript. Thanks!
From: taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP!!! Program generated(4): Emulation exception. Date: 3 Sep 1994 20:27:21 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@nunki.usc.edu Message-ID: <34beqp$24a@nunki.usc.edu> Something very strange is happenning to my system. My 3.2 cube had been shutdown for three months and was powered up recently. When I try to run Librarian and Webster as root, the app would launch and quit without leaving any message in the console. When I try to run the apps from Terminal, the error message says: EMT trap Then, I try to run the app from gdb and it says Program generated(4): Emulation exception. This problem alos come up when I am trying to run Previewer and DisplayTalk. However, it doesn't show up regularly in my account. Sometime, it's fine after a reboot. Could anyone tell me what may cause this problem? Thanks in advance. -- Ta-Wei "David" Li UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: zeno@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Syquest drive & NS3.2 ? Date: 4 Sep 1994 03:51:51 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Message-ID: <34c8s7$7dp@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <1994Sep2.215018.395@nimbus.ruhr.de> <jpanicoCvL1Lw.Kux@netcom.com> Ingo Schaefer (snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de) wrote: : Is it possible to use a SQ3270 SCSI drive with NS3.2 (Intel) ??? : : Thanx for any informations.... I've been using a SyQuest 270 (3.5") flawlessly since june. It not only works, but it gets mounted as a removable disk from the workspace, and the TIOCEJECT ioctl's work properly to do ejecting from the shell 'disk' command or the workspace. -Sean -- Sean T. Lamont, Abstract Software | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts NEXTSTEP development, TCP/IP consulting | Professional collections for NEXTSTEP lamont@abstractsoft.com | http://www.abstractsoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: macck@helios.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Claas Carsten Kohl) Subject: Re: Problem with NeXT HD probe. Message-ID: <1994Sep4.105545.11152@gomorra.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Sender: root@gomorra.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Operator) Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal References: <33o7fn$jaj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <33u63o$hph@uuneo.neosoft.com> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 10:55:45 GMT : In my case if I use fdisk under Linux, or DOS they don't see the NeXTSTEP : partitions and under NeXTSTEP fdisk it does not see the DOS, Linux or NeXTSTEP : partitions. Any hints or suggestions are welcome. : Dan dlogue@neosoft.com When you install NeXTSTEP, you have to look for foreign filesystems when you try to create the NeXTSTEP partition. Beside Linux, BSD, OS/2, etc.. you will find a NeXTSTEP partition type (A7 or so) that can be recognized by other Operating Systems, for example OS/2 and especially the OS/2 Boot Manager. This should also work for Linux. Claas Carsten Kohl macck@helios.rz.tu-clausthal.de (No NeXTMail please!) "NeXT: Expect the Unexpected..."
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing TeX produced ps files with Dots Date: 4 Sep 1994 09:35:36 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9409041435.AA02836@cantina.lanl.gov> uk05790@mik.uky.edu (victor e garzon) wrote: > I have some problems when printing TeX-produced ps files > using the Dots driver in my Canon BJC-600 printer. The > main problem is that the printed page will start a few > lines below the expected beginning of the page, so that > it will not fit in one piece of paper but rather, it will > run into the next. > > The same ps files seem to work fine on real ps printers. > Also, other ps files produced by different packages work > fine. > > I would appreciate any suggestions. No suggestion, but another data point. I reacted to this with "Omigosh, I installed GhostScript ten days ago and never checked TeX output!" I use the NeXTTeX package a lot. So, I checked. Unlike Victor, I am using GhostScript on an HP-DJ560C printer. In my case there is no spillover onto another page, but there is one slight annoyance: only the very top eighth of the page number gets printed! So, it is not necessarily a Dots problem. Nor is it only a BJC-600 problem. Dick Silbar, WhistleSoft, Inc. 505-662-7309 (voice) 505-662-7601 (fax) silbar@beep.roadrunner.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Myst under NeXTTIME Message-ID: <jpanicoCvM2FJ.BxG@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 15:16:31 GMT Hi, I have virtually no idea what NeXTTIME is. I have read that it is a QuickTime multimedia player, but do not kow what that means. Can I play mac multimedia CD-ROMs under NeXTTIME? If so, has anyone run the mac version of Myst under NeXTTIME? Thanks for any info. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: Myst under NeXTTIME Message-ID: <CvM7AK.CMG@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <jpanicoCvM2FJ.BxG@netcom.com> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 17:01:31 GMT Joe Panico (jpanico@netcom.com) wrote: : Hi, : I have virtually no idea what NeXTTIME is. I have read that it is a QuickTime : multimedia player, but do not kow what that means. Can I play mac multimedia : CD-ROMs under NeXTTIME? : If so, has anyone run the mac version of Myst under NeXTTIME? NEXTIME is a multimedia object suite that WILL (someday) run under NEXT/OPENSTEP. Right now all it consists of is a player application for playing QuickTime (CinePak) and NEXT's own proprietary compression scheme movies. You 'should' be able to play most Mac Quicktime files (though I've heard some conversion nightmares). 'Myst' is a game- a program. It is NOT a Quicktime movie (although it has some Quicktime clips embedded in it). Trying to play 'Myst' under NEXTIME will be about as successful as trying to import your Excel spreadsheet into Mathematica- they are two fundamentally different things. later jay -- ******************************************************************* Jason Bright jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca "I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma." -The Wizard of Oz
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit Date: 4 Sep 1994 18:16:23 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <34d2tn$mc@blkbox.blkbox.COM> References: <348u1p$eju@anshar.shadow.net> In article <348u1p$eju@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: > Yes, a driver for the Graphics Pro Turbo is available NOW from Talus > Imaging (713-561-0700) Ask for Dan Kramer. The board will give you > 1280x1024, 32-bit color, VERY FAST. Well, 1152x896, anyway, but thanks, Jay! Also, the new number is (713) 578-1434, or info@talus.com might be luckier, as I am starting 'Dan's color laptop North American Tour' fairly quickly, and other will take your order. Thanks for the interest in Talus! Dan Daniel L. Kramer Talus Imaging and Communications Corp. dan@talus.com > > > Jay Fuchs > Jaytron Products Corporation 1-800-327-5180 > Suppliers of Motion Detectors, Customer Counters, & Custom Solutions > (305) 653-6925 (305) 654-2815 Fax > jjfox@shadow.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Re: ATI 64 Bit/ SoundBlaster/ BusLogic Drivers on ftp.next.com Message-ID: <CvLx2q.HE@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper References: <348u1p$eju@anshar.shadow.net> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 13:20:50 GMT > Yes, a driver for the Graphics Pro Turbo is available NOW from Talus > Imaging (713-561-0700) Ask for Dan Kramer. The board will give you > 1280x1024, 32-bit color, VERY FAST. > > > > Jay Fuchs > Jaytron Products Corporation 1-800-327-5180 > Suppliers of Motion Detectors, Customer Counters, & Custom Solutions > (305) 653-6925 (305) 654-2815 Fax > jjfox@shadow.net Actually, got a mail from NeXT...the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit driver will be available from ftp.next.com in the next couple of weeks... The SoundsBlaster driver will also be available in the same timeframe. Also, the native BusLogic 32-bit driver is now available from ftp.next.com...works great! (I was using the Adaptec driver...what a difference!!) -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: A question about NeXTmail Date: 4 Sep 1994 23:43:22 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <34dm2q$aik@news.cerf.net> If one mouse clicks on GET NEW MAIL in NeXTmail Utilities, the NeXTmail.app looks in the mail spool for any mail that might have recently been brought into the spool by cron sending the modem out to fetch it from the mail server (in my case UCSD). But has someone written a utility which interfaces with the NeXTmail.app that upon when the user mouse clicks on GET NEW MAIL in NeXTmail.app two things happen: 1. NeXTmail.app looks in the mail spool 2. The utility sends the modem out to fetch mail from the mail server. If you know the answer to this or you know how to create this please respond. Thank you Murshid
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Question: Mail filter? Message-ID: <1994Sep4.161804.14647@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <348hla$9gt@masala.cc.uh.edu> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 16:18:04 GMT In article <348hla$9gt@masala.cc.uh.edu> escco@tree.egr.uh.edu (Fazia Begum Rizvi) writes: > Second, Does anyone know how I can make my NeXT mailer automatically direct > mail to different folders. I.e. is there somekind of mail filter file I can > write? If so, how? I've asked some of my Unix freinds, but unfortunately the > advice given doesn't seem to work. I get a lot of e-mail from various lists > and I'd like for my mailer to automatically shunt them to other mboxes. > Since I archive much of the stuff that I recieve, it's a real pain to go > through 200 messages a day by hand, even in the niceness of Mail.apps. Procmail. Builds for NeXTs easily, and is the de facto Unix solution to this problem. You will need mailapp-utilities for appnmail from one of the NeXT ftp sites, in order to append to NeXT format mailboxes. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerti@BITart.com (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Syquest drive & NS3.2 ? Message-ID: <Cvn8B8.KD@BITart.com> Sender: usenet@BITart.com Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting References: <1994Sep2.215018.395@nimbus.ruhr.de> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 06:21:07 GMT In article <1994Sep2.215018.395@nimbus.ruhr.de> snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de (Ingo Schaefer) writes: > > Is it possible to use a SQ3270 SCSI drive with NS3.2 (Intel) ??? > Plug 'n play... works like a charm. gerti
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Myst under NeXTTIME Date: 5 Sep 1994 01:44:51 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <34elq3$9vl@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <jpanicoCvM2FJ.BxG@netcom.com> <CvM7AK.CMG@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) writes: >: If so, has anyone run the mac version of Myst under NeXTTIME? Myst was apparently written in HyperCard, and so unless you had an extremely faithful HyperCard interpreter on the NeXT I'd say no. On the other hand, you can pop in the CD-ROM and view the movies in NEXTIME. One trick is that they use the exact same file name twice for some of the movies (resource fork and data fork, possibly), which confused NEXTSTEP. I found that every access switched which file I was talking about, so if I copied the file off the CD-ROM, tried playing the copy, and failed, I could copy again and it would work. Myst makes a pretty cool demo of NEXTIME. There was probably something wrong with my setup of Windows, because NEXTIME movies played about 5x faster than the actual game played them (we had the Windows version, but it still uses QuickTime).
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Connecting NeXTstation to Power Macintosh Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 5 Sep 1994 13:33:58 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <34f6o6$f0m@news1.digex.net> References: <1994Aug26.105807.17405@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> Anees S. Munshi (asm@eecg.toronto.edu) wrote: : I am looking for inexpensive solution (<$500 if possible) : to connect a Power Macintosh to a NeXTstation (thin-wire : and 10-baseT equipped) in order to be able to share files. Use NFS/Share from InterCon. It works flawlessly and has a list price of substantially less than $500. I used it in this model constantly, all day every day when I worked for them. FTP to ftp.intercon.com to get a demo. : your configuration, hardware + software, I had an '040 cube running 3.1, and a PowerMac 6100 with system 7.1 Pro. : and your experience about the reliability of the setup. Reliability? 100% of existing network reliability. If the network was down, it didn't work... otherwise, it did. David.
From: carol@dreamer.eyrie.com (Carol Odlum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: Virtuoso I Date: 3 Sep 1994 18:33:58 GMT Organization: Salt Spring Technical, Portland OR Distribution: world Message-ID: <34afim$s7q@twilight.eyrie.com> I'm looking for a copy of Virtuoso 1.0 for black hardware. Please respond by E-mail (or phone/fax) as I don't read this news group regularly. Thanks. Carol Odlum Salt Spring Technical carol@dreamer.eyrie.com phone: (503) 684-1416 fax: (503) 639-6652
From: Stefan.Boehringer@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cart.4 NeXT Laser? Date: Mon, 05 Sep 1994 20:30 MDZ Organization: Ruhr-Uni-Bochum Distribution: world Message-ID: <19940905203050.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41018.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Which compatible cartidges are appropriate for a NeXT Laser Printer? Thanks in advance. tible with the NeXT Laser Printer? Thanks in advanc
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cart.4 NeXT Laser? Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 15:59:47 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <ciOrWni00iV3M4Fl9V@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <19940905203050.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41018.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 5-Sep-94 Cart.4 NeXT Laser? by Stefan Boehringer@rubb.r > Which compatible cartidges are appropriate for a NeXT Laser Printer? The EP-S, which also works for Apple LaserWriter II's and many HP laserprinters. It's a very standard toner cartridge. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gcooper@badlands.NoDak.edu (Gregory J Cooper) Subject: TransSys-PNI-1.11 install problems Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <CvoABL.tHy@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 20:02:09 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network I'm trying to install TransSys-PNI-1.11 and am getting some strange errors that I hope someone can help me with. I can dial out and connect to our terminal server and send the command to set it to slip mode. But when I try to get the dynamically assigned IP number, I get the following errors from the tty encapsulator: tty: recvChars: read error: Operation would block expect: error reading input stream tty: recvChars: read error: Operation would block expect: error reading input stream These show up until it times out and fails to connect. Do anyone know that might be going wrong? Thanks for any help!
From: Darren Reely <70431.24@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RE: NeXT file format identification needed Date: 5 Sep 1994 21:17:57 GMT Organization: via CompuServe Information Service Message-ID: <34g1u5$lst$1@mhade.inhouse.compuserve.com> Looking at the information you supplied my guess its that that the file you have extraceted was created by a StoneDesign product and saved as an object. If it is a Tiff image then you may be able to pull it out, otherwise accept that it is a special that probably isn't decodeable by you. Darren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: Is FSP available for NS/i? Message-ID: <schwettCvoF9M.Mqu@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 21:48:58 GMT Hi. Does anyone knew of a location for FSP sources or binaries for NeXTStep/Intel? Thanks, Mark Schwettmann -- schwett@netcom.com, schwett@soda.berkeley.edu, schwett@uclink.berkeley.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal) Subject: Re: Will NSFIP 3.2 work with Cyrix/AMD? Message-ID: <1994Sep5.211358.8022@sydney.bo.open.de> Sender: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal) Organization: NeXT Cube, Bochum, Germany References: <345prl$efh@uuneo.neosoft.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 94 21:13:58 GMT In article <345prl$efh@uuneo.neosoft.com> dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue) writes: > > J.P. Goodyear (johnpg@teleport.com) wrote: > > : Does Nextstep for Intel work on systems with a Cyrix or AMD 486DX-33. I > > : can't seem to find the answer to this. > It works just fine on my AMD 486DX-40. NS also works fine on a Cyrix 486DX-40 but its much slower than the same configuration with an AMD. -- Ciao mmo email: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (NeXTmail welcome) --
From: drkayphd@imap2.asu.edu () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: *.gz extention? Date: 6 Sep 1994 00:17:36 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <34gcf0$rfi@news.asu.edu> Summary: What is it? Hello, First of all, I have been off the Net since my last account expired, and second my NeXTstep is currently 2200 miles away...Bummer. Before my last account expired, I down loaded some files with the *.gz extention but, I was not able to extract them. Since I have been back on the Net, the thought hit me (from another posting) the the *.gz is the extention for the GNU tar? Is this correct? I scanned all my manuals and could not find the it anywhere. Thanks Charles C. Hocker
Organization: Central Michigan University Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 17:45:01 EDT From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Message-ID: <94248.17450134II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: II emulators -- zaniWok? a2? Diamond? I seem to have lost track of any/all of the Apple II emulator projects... I was following mailing-list messages for zaniWok, but haven't heard anything lately... If anyone can fill me in on any of the projects, I'd appreciate it (especially mailing-list information and current source locations)... Thanks! - John... P.S. Don Yacktman -- you've got to be out there somewhere!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) Subject: Re: *.gz extention? Message-ID: <rbzCvovwC.Jrr@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <34gcf0$rfi@news.asu.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 03:48:11 GMT drkayphd@imap2.asu.edu () writes: >Before my last account expired, I down loaded some files with the *.gz >extention but, I was not able to extract them. Since I have been back on >the Net, the thought hit me (from another posting) the the *.gz is the >extention for the GNU tar? Is this correct? I scanned all my manuals and >could not find the it anywhere. Close...it is the extension for GNU zip (gzip/gunzip). -- <Rodger> ====================================================== Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com 1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884 Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636 ======================================================
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ATI 64 Bit/ SoundBlaster/ BusLogic Drivers on ftp.next.com Date: 6 Sep 1994 04:08:43 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <34gq0b$k2o@news.service.uci.edu> References: <CvLx2q.HE@damonc.tor.hookup.net> > Also, the native BusLogic 32-bit driver is now available from > ftp.next.com...works great! (I was using the Adaptec driver...what a > difference!!) > > Damon F. Cooper > damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net > NeXTMAIL Welcome! > I wonder if the BusLogic 32-bit card has any problems with the PAS 16 sound card. As many people report the Adaptec card does not work with the PAS16 on a VLB board. I had to take my SCSI drives away and use IDE drives instead. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ATI 64 Bit/ SoundBlaster/ BusLogic Drivers on ftp.next.com Date: 6 Sep 1994 04:11:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <34gq5m$kaf@news.service.uci.edu> References: <CvLx2q.HE@damonc.tor.hookup.net> In article <CvLx2q.HE@damonc.tor.hookup.net> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) writes: > Also, the native BusLogic 32-bit driver is now available from > ftp.next.com...works great! (I was using the Adaptec driver...what a > difference!!) Does it work with the PAS16 card? As many people report the adaptec card does not work with a PAS 16 sound card on a VLB motherboard. I had to take my SCSI drives away and use IDE drives instead. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Toshiba sound-in-mail patent Message-ID: <1994Sep6.062222.5386@rna.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.nl Organization: G.R.O.S.S. Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 06:22:22 GMT I have seen a post a couple of weeks ago about the sound-in-mail patent Toshiba is using in Japan to fight Canon/NeXT. As I recall it was a piece of LPF information that was originally posted by a NeXT employee and it contained also a person inside NeXT to contact in the case of information on prior art. Can someone please mail me that piece of information. I was under the impression I hac kept it around but I cannot find it anywhere. Thanks, -- gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: federico@heinz.com (Federico Heinz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing TeX produced ps files with Dots Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 16:38:26 GMT Message-ID: <1994Sep5.163826.16122@heinz.com> References: <uk05790.778536454@mik.uky.edu> Organization: Federico Heinz Consulting Sender: usenet@heinz.com In article <uk05790.778536454@mik.uky.edu> uk05790@mik.uky.edu (victor e garzon) writes: > I have some problems when printing TeX-produced ps files > using the Dots driver in my Canon BJC-600 printer. The > main problem is that the printed page will start a few > lines below the expected beginning of the page, so that > it will not fit in one piece of paper but rather, it will > run into the next. This problem is usually typical of a page format mismatch, that is, the system is trying to print on A4-sized paper but you have Letter-sized paper in the printer. This usually isn't noticed by PostScript printers because the info on paper format is encoded in PostScript comments that are simply ignored, whereas Dots attempts to make a better job and work according to the specified format. So maybe everyone having this kind of trouble should try using a size-setting document style option (or its TeX equivalent if you are not using LaTeX) and try again. (Gosh, I haven't used TeX for about a year now! and I used to ask myself how I had been able to survive without it...) Federico Heinz DISCLAIMER: I made Dots, so I should know what I'm talking about. Nevertheless, there are documented instances that show I sometimes don't :-).
Organization: Central Michigan University Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 11:55:03 EDT From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Message-ID: <94249.11550334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 030, 8MB Cube: Add memory or go 040?? Ok -- I currently have an 030 Cube with 8MB of RAM and I'm looking for some greater speed. I'd like to hear some recommendations on whether to buy 8 more MB of RAM (to fill the 16 SIMM sockets) or instead buy an 040 board if I can find one (and just use the 8MB on the 040 for now). I can't afford to do both right now (in fact, I can probably only afford to increase the RAM right now, but I still thought I'd ask which is best)... Any/all suggestions and recommendations appreciated... - John... P.S. The 030 Cube takes standard 30-pin, 100ns SIMMs, right? Can I use 1x8s or 1x9s? Can I mix them (I currently have 8 1x8s in there, I believe)? (Basically, if I pull some 30-pin, 100ns 1x9s out of a PC, will they work?)
From: arnouilj@oahu.esiee.fr (Jean-Claude Arnouil) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to mount PhotoCD disks under HPPA/NEXTSTEP Date: 6 Sep 1994 16:06:05 GMT Organization: Groupe ESIEE - PARIS Message-ID: <34i41d$an4@srv5.esiee.fr> Now that my HP712/60 under NEXTSTEP works well "for work", I'm trying doing more fun activities on it, like viewing my favorite pictures from PhotoCD ... But unfortunately, the PhotoCD disks I try to insert in the Gecko CD-ROM drive (Toshiba XM-3401) are ejected after a few seconds !!! I think the XM-3401 in Photo-CD compatible, so what should I do to mount Photo-CD's disks for use with the PhotoAlbum app ?? Thank you in advance for any help. -- Jean-Claude Arnouil Unix Systems Administrator Ecole Superieure d'Electrotechnique et d'Electronique email: arnouilj@esiee.fr phone:(33 1)45.92.67.71 BP 99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand CEDEX - FRANCE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: 030, 8MB Cube: Add memory or go 040?? Message-ID: <Cvq06G.577@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <94249.11550334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 18:18:16 GMT John Goggan (34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU) wrote: : Ok -- I currently have an 030 Cube with 8MB of RAM and I'm looking for some : greater speed. I'd like to hear some recommendations on whether to buy : 8 more MB of RAM (to fill the 16 SIMM sockets) or instead buy an 040 board : if I can find one (and just use the 8MB on the 040 for now). I can't afford : to do both right now (in fact, I can probably only afford to increase the : RAM right now, but I still thought I'd ask which is best)... : Any/all suggestions and recommendations appreciated... : - John... : P.S. The 030 Cube takes standard 30-pin, 100ns SIMMs, right? Can I use : 1x8s or 1x9s? Can I mix them (I currently have 8 1x8s in there, I : believe)? (Basically, if I pull some 30-pin, 100ns 1x9s out of a : PC, will they work?) Go for the memory. I am still amazed in the speedup I got after I upped my '040 from 8 to 24mb. The paging was virtually eliminated. later jay -- ******************************************************************* Jason Bright jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca "I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma." -The Wizard of Oz
From: okidz@ccs.neu.edu (Oki D Zakaria) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ECU Date: 6 Sep 1994 19:47:32 GMT Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University. Message-ID: <34ih0k$8tr@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> Is there any ECU (EISA Config. Utility) program for NS? The one I currently use is for DOS. It's pretty strange that to set different configurations for my NS Intel machine I have to boot DOS. I don't shuffle my controller cards everyday, but I don't have any DOS programs. So basically, I don't need to have DOS around. Unfortunately, I have to have it. NeXT is working hard in advancing object oriented technology, and Micro$oft is making money silently... Okidz ps: I don't want to buy Windows 4.0 just for running ECU programs.
From: jenniwoo@savik.exploratorium.edu (Jennifer Woodward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RFI: Clock doublers, Sony FDDs: PLI vs. slab Date: 6 Sep 1994 21:26:45 GMT Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Message-ID: <34imql$7jh@nkosi.well.com> Keywords: clock chip, sony, floppy disk drive, PLI Hi folks, hope you can help on two questions. 1. Does anyone know if there are any reasons NOT to use a clock doubler (or tripler) on a slab or an 040 cube? I met a fellow in Berkeley recently who was literally making them (well, he was assembling the mounting parts) for Macs & PowerMacs as we did our laundry. He claimed $50 bought 2-3x speed on most Macs & all PowerMacs, e.g. making a 601 into a 603 (speed-wise). The device just clipped on top of and around the existing clock chip, disabled it & routed connections to the new chip on the mounting clip. Trick is: what fails if you drive the mother board that fast, e.g. a NeXT 040 mother board? Anything? Nothing? 2. My ol' PLI drive apparently has the same Sony FDD as the ol' NeXT slab. But my PLI won't recognize & mount Mac diskettes, while my office-mate's slab will. (Maybe my PLI mounted a Mac diskette once or twice...) Seems to me some hardware techie once told me there might be different wiring on slabs?! Does anyone know for sure what the problem is? I was actually hoping it might be a head alignment problem. (And I don't know of any test sw with which to check a NeXT FDD's head alignment.) [3. Does anyone know of any test sw with which to check a NeXT FDD or HDD?] Thanks. Jennifer
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: GhostScript & legal-size paper Date: 6 Sep 1994 18:29:42 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9409062330.AA03987@cantina.lanl.gov> Greetings, Yesterday I thought it would be good to print a 14" government form (legal-size paper) on my HP DJ560C. My driver is GhostScript, running on NS/I 3.2. It seems difficult. First, it seems to make no difference whether the A5 dip switch is up or down. The HP manual says "up" for legal-size paper, but it also says that this may be over-ridden by software. I had saved the form as a TIFF file. Trying to print from Preview, after selecting "Legal" in the Page Layout Panel, all I get is the bottom 10" of the form. The top disappears. It also makes no difference where the scroll bar on the window sits. (I was so desperate I even tried that.) Another desperation try: clicking "zoom out" makes the screen display smaller but does not affect what is printed. Switching gears, I opened Diagram, chose "Legal" in Page Layout, dragged in the TIFF, and tried to print that. Same bottom 10". OK, switch again, try out MetroCopy (MetroScan) from the scanner directly. This time, something different: it prints the whole 14" page but broken up onto two pages, with the top 10" showing on p. 1 and the bottom 3" on page 2. (Note the gap.) Also, I have no way (on that machine) of testing out legal-size with a PostScript driver (at least at present, no license) for the HP DJ560C. I might be able to test legal-size to a NeXT printer from a NeXT, but I can't believe that doesn't work. [Question: how does one find a legal-size paper cassette for a NeXT printer? It turns out, says our group secretary, that a cassette for some HP printer she has also fits her NeXT printer.] BOTTOM LINE: does someone know how to do this? Is is a GhostScript problem, a NEXTSTEP problem, or a HP DJ560C problem? Dick Silbar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jonadams@netcom.com (Jonathan Adams) Subject: Re: NS/I time vs. MS-DOS time Message-ID: <jonadamsCvqK0t.L4t@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <1994Aug26.044816.30492@iitmax.iit.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 01:26:53 GMT Falke Bruinsma (falke@iitmax.iit.edu) wrote: : Newsgroups: comp.os.next.misc : Subject: NS/I time vs. MS-DOS time : Distribution: usa : Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago : I use both MS-DOS and NS/I on my PC and have found one very annoying problem. : MS-DOS assumes that the time stored is local time, while NS/I assumes it is : greenwich time... So whenever I switch both clocks get screwed up and always : have to reset the times when I go from NS/I to MS=DOS or vice-versa. : Is there a trick I can use that will fix this? Or maybe make it so that at : least ONE system has the correct time. C:\> SET TZ=<timezone> C:\> DATE Enter date: <current date> Wheeeeee. -- jonadams@netcom.com PGP 2.6 key available. Fingerprint: (Jonathan Adams) 40 27 43 E0 5C 20 66 0E EE 8C 10 9F EC 40 78 6A (revoked!) A5 77 E9 28 88 DD B7 D4 9C 8C F9 D5 D8 3F 45 BE (new! 1024 bit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerti@BITart.com (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: How to mount PhotoCD disks under HPPA/NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CvqnJ2.Lq@BITart.com> Sender: usenet@BITart.com Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting References: <34i41d$an4@srv5.esiee.fr> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 02:42:38 GMT You are going to need the xamode utility, which is not available for HP yet, since I don't have one... (Or the gcc, which produces triple fat). Anybody in the TwinCities who would let me use her/his HP for a couple of minutes? Or a temporary account, that could be reached from the internet??? Gerd In article <34i41d$an4@srv5.esiee.fr> arnouilj@oahu.esiee.fr (Jean-Claude Arnouil) writes: > > Now that my HP712/60 under NEXTSTEP works well "for work", I'm trying > doing more fun activities on it, like viewing my favorite pictures from > PhotoCD ... > > But unfortunately, the PhotoCD disks I try to insert in the Gecko > CD-ROM drive (Toshiba XM-3401) are ejected after a few seconds !!! > > I think the XM-3401 in Photo-CD compatible, so what should I do to > mount Photo-CD's disks for use with the PhotoAlbum app ?? > > Thank you in advance for any help. > > -- > Jean-Claude Arnouil Unix Systems Administrator > Ecole Superieure d'Electrotechnique et d'Electronique > email: arnouilj@esiee.fr phone:(33 1)45.92.67.71 > BP 99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand CEDEX - FRANCE
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Question: Mail filter? Date: 7 Sep 1994 02:38:33 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940907164102.22891AACUK.mmalc@hotaru> References: <1994Sep4.161804.14647@seer.demon.co.uk> >> Does anyone know how I can make my NeXT mailer automatically direct mail to >> different folders. I.e. is there somekind of mail filter file I can write? >> If so, how? I've asked some of my Unix freinds, but unfortunately the advice >> given doesn't seem to work. I get a lot of e-mail from various lists and I'd >> like for my mailer to automatically shunt them to other mboxes. Since I >> archive much of the stuff that I recieve, it's a real pain to go through 200 >> messages a day by hand, even in the niceness of Mail.apps. >> > Procmail. Builds for NeXTs easily, and is the de facto Unix solution to this > problem. You will need mailapp-utilities for appnmail from one of the NeXT > ftp sites, in order to append to NeXT format mailboxes. > Just to make Paul laugh... The alternative is to get a ready-built solution from Take Three, aka Eloquent. Does a whole lot more than just sort mail too (e.g. reads news, MIME, NewsGrazer, archives mail etc. etc.) and is highly configurable. The drawback... costs around $175. But IMHO worth it. Have fun, mmalcolm. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1089 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
From: jhermann@brainiac.linear.sc.ti.com (John Hermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SolarGeek Date: 7 Sep 1994 13:36:16 GMT Organization: Design Automation Division, Texas Instruments. Message-ID: <34kfkg$lri@barracuda.dadd.ti.com> I received quite a bit of response to my inquiry about SolarGeek.app. Many wanted a description of the game. It is space game where you are "defending" your solar system from outer space junk and monsters. Each time a junk item crashes into the solar system's star, it gains mass. This causes the gravity effects and the size of the star to increase. There are two things that shoot at you (at higher levels) while you are guarding your star. An alien and a UFO. The alien shoots more randomly, while tha UFO concentrates its assault on your ship. There is the ability to reduce the star back to its original size and mass. This is done by aquiring a "super" bullet (one comes randomly after every 5000 pts) and shooting the star with it. A bonus ship is awarded every 10,000 pts. A score of 30,000 pts is considered very good. The game play is good, but slows down at higher levels. I only have a 25MHz NeXT, so it should be better for the turbo version. After the last six months, I have decided that the game is not worth the $7.50 that I was asking. I have later version that fixes a couple of bugs that I will release if people show interest. I will ask less that $7.50. Maybe $2.50. The demo doesn't represent how good/bad the game is. It doesn't show the UFO/alien, and it doesn't show how the game slows down at higher levels. If you decide to pull the game off of cs.orst.edu, also get a copy of SpaceWars.app that I wrote. It is a two player space war game. My old room-mate and I really enjoyed playing this game. It is kind of addictive. No license is needed for SpaceWars.app. Best Regards, John Hermann
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cartidges for NeXT Laser Date: 7 Sep 94 14:16:18 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.778947378@budlight> References: <19940905202313.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41018.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Stefan.Boehringer@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) writes: >I own a NeXT Laser Printer and need a new cartidge soon. Which cartidges >are compatible with the NeXT Laser Printer? >Thanks in advanc As far as I remember, the NeXT Laser Printer is a HPII with some hardware ripped out and replaced. HP cartridges might fit. You may want to check out the FAQ. Mine says: Any HP LaserJet II or III will fit. HPLJ4mSI cartridges do NOT fit. Gruesse, Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: fletcher@next1 (Robert Fletcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Optical Drive. Date: 7 Sep 1994 17:45:29 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <34ku7p$4iv@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Keywords: Next, optical Greetings NeXT-ers. I've recently 'inherited', at work, a '040 cube ( 24/339:NS 3.0). It has the Next Optical drive installed, but I don't have any disks, and don't know where to look for them. Are these still available? Are they standard disks as used in other system's ? ( ie Tahiti?) Any recomended sources? Typical prices? Bob. (Oh- by the way. I love it! ) -- Bob Fletcher Johns Hopkins U. N. Charles St. Baltimore MD Fletcher@dirac.pha.jhu.edu Fletcher@jhup.pha.jhu.edu
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: stupid keyboard/login question Date: 7 Sep 1994 15:04:06 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <34l2r6$v1@panix2.panix.com> Here is the worlds simplest question. I want to use a certain keyboard specification. I have used and understand Keyboard.app and it is cool. However, I can't figure out how to get the bloody thing to use this keymap when I log in. As a result I have to ask for this keymap each time I log in. HELP. --thanks, RS
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SolarGeek Date: 7 Sep 1994 19:49:14 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <34l5fq$6lb@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <34kfkg$lri@barracuda.dadd.ti.com> John Hermann writes > I received quite a bit of response to my inquiry about SolarGeek.app. > Many wanted a description of the game. It is space game where you > are "defending" your solar system from outer space junk and monsters. Have you considered making it a module under Xox.app? -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest Ph.D. student, High Energy Physics NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.postscript Subject: Why is this printer so slooowww??? (white, 3.2, SHarp JX9460PS) Date: 7 Sep 1994 16:24:01 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <34lb1h$fgh@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> About a month bought what looked like a good deal in a Sharp JX9460PS laser printer. For $800, 6PPM and 600DPI, this printer seemed like a great deal. Actually, it still might be. There is just one catch, it's PS level 1. When I print any kind of file from NeXTStep, it takes about 5 minutes! I thought this was because I had configured it as 'unknown' and NeXT was downloading the world, or rasterizing before outputting. However, I just received PPD files from Sharp in the mail last night, plugged them in, reconfigured my printer, and no improvement in performance. I can boot Linux and just cat postscript files directly out to /dev/par1 and the printer works like a champ, so I think the printer is fine. I'm really beginning to wonder about the Next OS as far as the parallel port goes. Does anybody have a clue why this is so slow? TIA, Randy -- Randy Kunkee Houston, TX 713-870-1334 kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jonadams@netcom.com (Jonathan Adams) Subject: Re: Printing many .rtf or .ps files Message-ID: <jonadamsCvs5sn.n2y@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <CvGtHr.3KE@tfs.com> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 22:14:46 GMT Ken Worthy (kenw@tfs.com) wrote: : The GUI is great and all, but one thing it doesn't seem to be very good at : is processing many files. : I have a tree-full of .rtf files (OpenStep doc, e.g.) that I want to : print, and I don't want to open each in Edit.app, click print, etc. : There must be an easy way to print .rtf files from the command line, and : then I can use 'find' to start the jobs, but I couldn't find it in the : documentation. This brings up the general question of how to access the : various menu items of an app if you start them from the command line. find -name "*.rtf" -exec open -p {} \; I believe this may only work with 3.2. : Anyone know? : Ken Jonathan Adams -- jonadams@netcom.com PGP 2.6 key available. Fingerprint: (Jonathan Adams) 40 27 43 E0 5C 20 66 0E EE 8C 10 9F EC 40 78 6A (revoked!) A5 77 E9 28 88 DD B7 D4 9C 8C F9 D5 D8 3F 45 BE (new! 1024 bit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: Jacques Garbi Subject: PCI SCSI-2 Controller DPT 2024/90 with Cache up to 64MB Message-ID: <Cvr8n0.6H@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi) Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 10:18:35 GMT Hi everyone, I just received some informations that the PCI SCSI-2 DPT controller was about to ship in October. Does anyone know if there are any drivers for it under NS ? The EISA card had NS drivers, but I don't knoe if they're compatible with the new PCI controller. I also read that 2 cards are coming up : The PM 2024/90 (described as a PCI/Fast SCSI-II, Storage Manager Kit) and the PM 2124/90 (described as a High-Perf. PCI/SCSI-II, Floppy Disk, Storage Manager Kit). Does anyone know the differences between the two ? Thanks in advance for all your answers Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) Subject: Any fast serial port devices for NeXTStation? Message-ID: <CvsK09.BvG@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> Organization: UTCC Public Access Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 03:21:45 GMT Are there any port devices for the NeXTStation that can communicate at speeds of 115,200bps (or higher)? I recently purchased a Supra 288 modem and would like to go beyond the 38,400bps barrier on the serial ports of my slab. thanx gn
From: bdbeal@enet.net (Barry Beal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Broken Monitor? Date: 7 Sep 1994 22:35:02 GMT Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona Message-ID: <34lf6m$8og@maple.enet.net> I have a monochrome Nextstation. Recently, the monitor has been having some problems. The entire display is squashed down to less the half the normal screen size. The top part of the display looks normal except that it starts about 1/3 of the way down the screen. The rest of the display is distorted to approx 3 or 4 inches. Needless to say, this makes using the system a real challenge. One other point of info is that the mouse works when you can get a clear enough object on the screen to point to. Has anyone else seen this problem? Any ideas? I assume the monitor is shot, but would like to know for sure before replacing it. Thanks for any help! -------------------- Barry Beal bdbeal@enet.net (602)230-9330
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jonadams@netcom.com (Jonathan Adams) Subject: Re: stupid keyboard/login question Message-ID: <jonadamsCvsowB.DEG@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <34l2r6$v1@panix2.panix.com> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 05:07:23 GMT Russell Silverman (rsilver@panix.com) wrote: : Here is the worlds simplest question. : I want to use a certain keyboard specification. : I have used and understand Keyboard.app and it is cool. : However, I can't figure out how to get the bloody thing to : use this keymap when I log in. As a result I have to ask : for this keymap each time I log in. HELP. Put it in ~/Library/Keyboards. Then use Preferences.app/Localization Preferences to change your keyboard to the new one. Jonathan Adams -- jonadams@netcom.com PGP 2.6 key available. Fingerprint: (Jonathan Adams) 40 27 43 E0 5C 20 66 0E EE 8C 10 9F EC 40 78 6A (revoked!) A5 77 E9 28 88 DD B7 D4 9C 8C F9 D5 D8 3F 45 BE (new! 1024 bit)
From: "Thomas G. Mon" <tm31+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing many .rtf or .ps files Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 01:39:34 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0iPeCK200iV8MAroEk@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <jonadamsCvs5sn.n2y@netcom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 7-Sep-94 Re: Printing many .rtf or ... by Jonathan Adams@netcom.co > Ken Worthy (kenw@tfs.com) wrote: > : The GUI is great and all, but one thing it doesn't seem to be very good at > : is processing many files. > > : I have a tree-full of .rtf files (OpenStep doc, e.g.) that I want to > : print, and I don't want to open each in Edit.app, click print, etc. > > : There must be an easy way to print .rtf files from the command line, and > : then I can use 'find' to start the jobs, but I couldn't find it in the > : documentation. This brings up the general question of how to access the > : various menu items of an app if you start them from the command line. > > find -name "*.rtf" -exec open -p {} \; > > I believe this may only work with 3.2. I seem to remember a application called DockPrint.. it just let you drag files onto it and have them printed. Tom. tm31@andrew.cmu.edu [NeXTmail welcome]
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SolarGeek Date: 8 Sep 1994 07:41:32 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <34mf7c$or4@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <34lk7n$9e3@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Kristopher Jon Magnusson writes ) Ernest Prabhakar (ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu) wrote: ) : John Hermann writes ) : > I received quite a bit of response to my inquiry about ) : > SolarGeek.app. ) : > Many wanted a description of the game. It is space game where you ) : > are "defending" your solar system from outer space junk and ) : > monsters. ) ) : Have you considered making it a module under Xox.app? ) ) : -- Ernie P. ) ) Or have you considered using Don Yacktman's GameKit for its ) next release? IMHO the GameKit is _not_ ready for "real" use. It would help in such a game, but the finished GameKit will provide a _lot_ more in the way of useful services for writing such games. Of course, Columns, PillBottle, and PacMan all use it, so it is far from useless, but I will openly state that it is _not_ yet ready for prime-time. It is definitely a pre-alpha release. But if anyone cares to play with what's there, check out ftp.et.byu.edu in pub/next/gamekit. No guarantees provided... Oh, and you'll note that I haven't updated it for a _long_ time. I am slowly working on it, but I don't have anything release-able right now. I hope to finish it off someday, but I can't make any promises as to when that will be. I've made a lot of improvements in the design, however...and will release it one part at a time as the modules are finished, with example games to demonstrate how to use them. The new high score module will be the first one... :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: schaf@socrates.ucsf.edu (Chris Schafmeister) Subject: Turning off a black NeXTstation. Message-ID: <schaf.778989584@cgl.ucsf.edu> Sender: news@cgl.ucsf.edu (USENET News System) Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 01:59:44 GMT Ever since I upgraded to NeXTStep 3.2 I have had trouble turning off my black NeXTstation. I hit the power key, or click on "Power off" at the login prompt and it will look like it is shutting down but then it will hang, forcing me to pull the plug out of the back of the machine. Naturally it takes ten minutes to boot up next time because it has to fsck the disks. This happens about half the time that I try to turn off the machine. The only special thing about my machine is that it has an external SCSI hard drive. .Chris. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Christian E.A.F. Schafmeister Biophysics graduate student University of California, San Francisco UUCP: ucbvax!ucsfcgl!schaf "Biophysics . . . THE future." INTERNET: schaf@cgl.ucsf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: macck@helios.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Claas Carsten Kohl) Subject: Re: Will NSFIP 3.2 work with Cyrix/AMD? Message-ID: <1994Sep8.115835.19241@gomorra.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Sender: root@gomorra.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Operator) Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal References: <345b7e$4ag@linda.teleport.com> <345prl$efh@uuneo.neosoft.com> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 11:58:35 GMT Dan Logue (dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com) wrote: : J.P. Goodyear (johnpg@teleport.com) wrote: : : Does Nextstep for Intel work on systems with a Cyrix or AMD 486DX-33. I : : can't seem to find the answer to this. : It works just fine on my AMD 486DX-40. It also works fine with the Cyrix 40 MHz board from Soyo, but you have to look for the correct Keyboard Chip. Otherwise you are not able to use your keyboard. Claas Carsten Kohl macck@helios.rz.tu-clausthal.de (No NeXTMail please!) "NeXT: Expect the Unexpected..."
From: fletcher@nova.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Movies and NeXTTIME (Re: Myst under NeXTTIME) Date: 8 Sep 1994 08:49:32 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland University College Message-ID: <34n18s$6o4@nova.umd.edu> References: <jpanicoCvM2FJ.BxG@netcom.com> <CvM7AK.CMG@cunews.carleton.ca> <34elq3$9vl@yucca.omnigroup.com> Speaking of NeXTTIME playing movies, I got this free CD-ROM from PC World (I know, I know)--anyway, it has some cool QT movies from space on it. Some of these play fine others don't. The ones that don't start, but quickly die. However, I can single step through these without problem (but no sound and the inspector says I am always on the same frame.) Any ideas what the problem might be? Charlie -- NeXTMail to: | ...to confer, converse, and charlie@technosci.com | otherwise hobnob with my | brother wizards.
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Powersoft & NeXT: Mission Criticial for Fortune 500 (Repost) Message-ID: <Cvt23u.8M@damonc.tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 09:52:42 GMT A repost was requested...here it is... ========================================== Having worked with Powersoft's "PowerBuilder" GUI 4GL product in corporate environments since it's early beta release almost 4 yrs ago, and now NEXTSTEP for about a year, I have come to the conclusion that there are some critical pieces missing from the NEXTSTEP development environment, even with EOF that NeXT needs to understand. Fortune 500 companies (such as the one I work for) have jumped on the PowerBuilder bandwagon by the truckload for their mission-critical application development for 2 fundamental reasons: 1) To harness the power of Powersoft's "DataWindow" object, available in NO other product (it's actually patented). 2) To relieve themselves of writing raw C/C++ MS-Windows SDK code in order to deliver GUI-based corporate database applications. The second reason above is addressed in NEXTSTEP with Objective-C. Yes, it's based on C, but the number of language extensions to get to Objective-C are minimal. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? The problem is the first reason. NEXTSTEP Developer, for all it's excellence, does not have any but the simplest (ie. DB/EOTableView) database display functionalities of Powersoft's DataWindow. And it IS a problem for Fortune 500 companies. Businesses depends on information, but business is made up of data. The question is: how do we best construct information from corporate data so that we can use it as a competitive weapon? Object technologies promise to speed the time to realization of corporate applications in the long run through re-use, but that benefit can be more than offset if the amount of work to be done building data containers, lists, manipulators, sorters, handlers and presentation objects is too great. A recent Request For Proposals was recently posted to the net for "...the development of a NeXTSTEP ObjectWare component...[that will] be a subclass of DBTableView. The class will function identically to the DBTableView with the exception of supporting a single summary row placed at either the top or bottom of the data rows of the DBTableView. The summary row will contain a summary of the information held in the data rows of the DBTableView, and would be "locked" into position and kept from scrolling as the user scrolls through the data rows. As an example, for numeric data this could contain a number which represents the sum of the values in all of the other rows in a given column..." Presumably this represents a contract worth something in the 5 (6?) figure range. What happens if this proposer discovers the need to have a control-break or cross-tab TableView? Another 5/6 figure contract added to the first begins to add up... We will find a simpler, ready-made solution. Powersoft's PowerBuilder, with it's DataWindow is an obvious choice. If NeXT expects to target Fortune 500 companies it must realize that it is technology for BUSINESS's sake, not technology for TECHNOLOGY's sake that cuts corporate PO's. THE "DATAWINDOW" OBJECT Powersoft's DataWindow objects handle the types of requirements outlined in the above Request for Proposals EFFORTLESSLY...you simply: 1) Pick the type of DataWindow you want (Graph, Tabular, Grid, CrossTab, FreeForm, Labels, etc), specify your data source (Database Tables, Stored Procedures, None (programmatic), etc), 2) Create a new instance (click "OK"), layout your columns, drag "computed fields" wherever required (in the header, footer, as a separate column, etc, 3) Simply type in the formula you would like the computed field to compute (ie. SUM("employee_salary" for all) would cause the value of this computed column to contain the average salary for all employees. If we wanted to place the computed column in the actual rows of data (for EACH employee record retrieved), simply drag it there and the DataWindow will compute the field for each row retrieved (ie. "employee_salary" - AVG("employee_salary" for all) would display the dollar difference between this employee's salary and the average salary). 4) ONE line of code is required to make it work: you tell the DataWindow to "Retrieve" itself (ie. when the user pushes a button, the window it's on opens, etc). WHAT'S THE POINT? WERE THE DATAWINDOW OBJECTS AVAILABLE as an Interface Builder Palette, we, the Fortune 500, would have available the best of both worlds in ONE integrated environment. Object technology (EO, Obj-C, IB, PB) AND a data interface object robust enough to handle ANY business requirement. This combination would represent, I believe, the most comprehensive, extensible custom business application development environment on the PLANET. How do I know? Because Powersoft became a $100M NASDAQ company in less than 4 years by selling products based on ONE OBJECT - the DataWindow. GIVE US A REASON By Powersoft making available it's "crown jewel", the DataWindow object, either as part of the EOF palette (2.0?) or as a 3rd party palette vendor on top of EO, we could, indeed, have the best of both worlds. Powersoft knows about NEXTSTEP, as it is listed on the PowerBuilder feedback cards under "Current GUI:", but may believe that a full port of their PowerBuilder 4GL development environment is necessary (where would that leave NEXTSTEP Developer?), when really all that's required is a Powersoft DataWindow palette, fully integrated with EOF. Why would any Fortune 500 business develop applications using ANYTHING else? AT LEAST GET ACQUAINTED NeXT EOF engineers need to look at the DataWindow object from Powersoft, and Powersoft DataWindow engineers need to take a look at EOF. There has to be enough common ground to at least warrant a look at the possibilities... NeXT: Powersoft Corporation 70 Blanchard Road Burlington, MA 01803 (617) 229-2200 Powersoft: NeXT Computer, Inc 900 Chesapeake Drive Redwood City, CA 94063 (800) 848-6398 =========================== -- Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net NeXTMAIL Welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Dedicated swapdisk== crashes? Message-ID: <jpanicoCvtAB1.CGu@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 12:49:49 GMT Hi, NS/I 3.2 never (well, almost never) crashed when I had it configured to swap from the boot disk (default configuration). A week ago I added a dedicated 200MB SCSI swapdisk. This resulted in a noticeable performance boost. But, based on a small sampling period, the OS seems to be crashing almost every other day now. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there any possible technological basis for this phenomenon, or is it behaviour that results from cosmic rays sent out by unusually perky sun-spot activity? Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jura.demon.co.uk!haldane (Steve Sykes) Subject: Re: Is Quix still around? Whats the story? Message-ID: <Cvt1Is.IzJ@jura.demon.co.uk> Sender: haldane@jura.demon.co.uk (Steve Sykes) Organization: Jura Productions, London References: <34a7dp$90l@spock.dis.cccd.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 09:40:03 GMT In article <34a7dp$90l@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) writes: > I was looking forward to their next software version and now I hear > they might be gone. Anyone know whats up? > > > maurices > Well, I spoke to Andy Grawehr of QUIX on the telephone a couple of days ago, and he seemed to still be in business. However, in my experience he does not respond to email or facsimiles. Other posts in this group have indicated that QUIX's after sales support is hopeless - but I found Andy to be very helpful. I haven't bought a Daydream yet though. The 'phone number is +41 41 34 8828. -- -- Stephen D.Sykes _______| Have you __| NeXT | Classic FM haldane@jura.demon.co.uk | hugged your | mail __| London, U.K. +44 71 284 3000 (daytime) _-| radio today? _-| O.K. __| NW1 7DQ
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Whatever happened to ANDI Message-ID: <Cvssyy.B3t@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Keywords: ANDI Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 06:35:21 GMT Does anyone out there know if ANDI is still in business. I don't get replies to email, but it doesn't bounce either. Is Bill Strehl away on an extended trip (several months!!)?? Did you see this posting Bill. Please say something. Many thanks. david -------- -- David R. Hill, CS Dept., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fx: 403-282-6778 | (Albert Einstein) NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred) | Kill your television!
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: New versions of cc, as, gdb and libg++ Date: 8 Sep 1994 19:43:19 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <34npgn$3hq@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This week I compiled the sources of cc, as, gdb, and libg++ NeXT supplied with their 3.2 developer version for HP computers. After the announcement on Monday I got a bunch of mails regarding these triple fat compiled versions. A few remarks: - The compiler and tools were supposed to replace the 3.2 versions of our NeXT and 486 machines, not to provide a developer environment for HP computers. We wanted to have a homogeneous environment on all of our platforms. - I cannot put any files on our ftp server that are copyrighted by NeXT (e.g. libs, include files, ...). - Up to now I only tested the compiler with large projects, not the other tools. - The files can be found at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/nextsources. Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 University of Munich FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Leopoldstr. 11B "Wer die Wahrheit nicht weiss, der ist bloss ein D-80802 Muenchen Dummkopf. Aber wer sie weiss und sie eine Luege Germany nennt, der ist ein Verbrecher!" B.Brecht,"Galileo"
From: andreas@dworkin.wustl.edu (Andreas D. Bovopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: help! NeXT printer is not activated during reboot Keywords: printer Message-ID: <88642@dworkin.wustl.edu> Date: 8 Sep 94 14:39:17 GMT Followup-To: poster Organization: Washington University St. Louis, MO Yesterday after a power outage I rebooted my Next workstation. The workstation came up just fine, but towards the end of the booting process I noticed the following messages on the screen: ------------------------- No printer infor error:0 No printer infor error:0 Boostrap check-in error :1103 ---------------------------------- The printer didn't get activated during the booting process. Do you have any suggestions on what the problem might be and how I could go about solving it? I thank you very much in advance for any help you may be able to provide me. Plese send you help messages to abovopou@chipcom.com Thank you very much, Andreas D. Bovopoulos Principal Engineer Chipcom Corporation 118 Turnpike Road Southborough, MA 01772-1886 tel:(508) 490-5602 fax:(508) 490-5873 e-mail:abovopou@chipcom.com
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dedicated swapdisk== crashes? Date: 8 Sep 1994 17:42:21 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <34nidt$vb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <jpanicoCvtAB1.CGu@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: > NS/I 3.2 never (well, almost never) crashed when I had it configured to >swap from the boot disk (default configuration). A week ago I added a >dedicated 200MB SCSI swapdisk. This resulted in a noticeable performance >boost. But, based on a small sampling period, the OS seems to be crashing >almost every other day now. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there >any possible technological basis for this phenomenon, or is it behaviour >that results from cosmic rays sent out by unusually perky sun-spot >activity? I experienced this problem with black hardware, too. The fault is in a hard-wired parameter in the standard rc.swap file - it's hi-water is set to 40 MB. Copy /etc/rc.swap, then edit the hi-water parameter. Here's output from FileMerge.app showing my set-up (I have a 406MB swapdisk -NeXTdimensions need elbow room! *** /etc/rc.swap.stock Sun May 15 20:53:47 1994 --- /etc/rc.swap Sun May 15 20:56:10 1994 *************** *** 80,87 **** fi # Turn on paging to the swapdisk. Note the high water mark (hiwat): # this helps ensure the swapdisk doesn't get full. ! /usr/etc/mach_swapon -v -o prefer,lowat=16777216,hiwat=31457280 \ $NEWSWAPFILE >/dev/console 2>&1 --- 80,87 ---- fi # Turn on paging to the swapdisk. Note the high water mark (hiwat): # this helps ensure the swapdisk doesn't get full. ! /usr/etc/mach_swapon -v -o prefer,lowat=16777216,hiwat=401080320 \ $NEWSWAPFILE >/dev/console 2>&1 Hope this helps, -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Movies and NeXTTIME (Re: Myst under NeXTTIME) Date: 8 Sep 1994 17:42:11 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <34nidj$6vc@rosie.next.com> References: <34n18s$6o4@nova.umd.edu> Keywords: NEXTIME In article <34n18s$6o4@nova.umd.edu> fletcher@nova.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) writes: > Speaking of NeXTTIME playing movies, I got this free CD-ROM from > PC World (I know, I know)--anyway, it has some cool QT movies from > space on it. Some of these play fine others don't. The ones that don't > start, but quickly die. However, I can single step through these > without problem (but no sound and the inspector says I am always > on the same frame.) Any ideas what the problem might be? These are probably movies with multiple video tracks. Some of the components in the NEXTIME 1.0 release expect one video track per movie, and are easily confused by multiple video tracks. This can produce some of the symptoms you see. Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM ---- I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me. Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility, and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer.
From: eleeb1v@cedar.egr.uh.edu (Nader Misri) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Driver for diamond viper 9100 Date: 8 Sep 1994 18:57:18 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <34nmqe$oh4@masala.cc.uh.edu> Keywords: Diamond Viper 9100 driver Has anyone heard of a driver for the Diamond Viper 9100? I bought a new P90 to run NeXTSTEP/i on, and much to my chagrin, after receiving the computer, I realized that I had gotten a new version of the Diamond Viper, the 9100, and the driver for the previous version, the 9000, is not compatible. Help! Does anyone know of a driver for the new version of the Viper, or a patch to make the old one work, etc? Help! Thanks! Please email replies to nader@jetson.uh.edu Nader Misri
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: sx, sz XMODEM and ZMODEM for NEXT Date: 8 Sep 1994 20:00:19 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <34nqgj$4kl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Hi, does anyone know where I can find the sx and sz programs for the NeXT?? I would really like to start taking advantage of the increased speed of my new 14.4K bps fax/modem!! Thanks, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- The power of UNIX must prevail. The evil Microsoft must be stopped!! -- NeXTStep, the operating system of the future, today. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: batemand@blitzen.buck.com (fred) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dialup connection to NeXTStation Date: 8 Sep 1994 15:25:49 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Message-ID: <34nae0INN26s@clem.handheld.com> I've been trying without success to connect my Hayes Accura 144 modem to our NeXT to allow employees dial-up access from off-site PCs. I believe I have the software configuration just as it should be, but when I try to connect, all I get is a few random characters and then the NeXT hangs up on me. I suspect that the problem is the modem setup. If someone has an Accura 144 modem or a reasonable substitute working with a NeXT, could you please send me the modem setup you used? The way I get it is through Procomm or Telix, use the AT&V command. Thanks, Dan Bateman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: Trouble Formatting Optical Disks (3.5" MO NS/i) Message-ID: <schwettCvu2nz.IG6@netcom.com> Summary: Can't format 3.5" MO Disks Keywords: formatting optical disks Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 23:02:23 GMT Hi again... I've run into a rather odd problem with me 3.5" Fujitsu MO drive. It works just fin reading and writing, DOS, NeXT, and Macintosh formatted MO disks, but I just rried to reinitialize a DOS formatted MO and it wouldn't let me... It says : Cannot initialize disk. See console for errors. The console reveals: probing for CDROM probing for DOS Sep 8 16:00:49 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /stuff Workspace: Malloc error (see the malloc man page). code = 5 probing for CDROM probing for DOS probing for mac probing for cdaudio Sep 8 16:01:02 Workspace[237]: DeviceInitPanel - Cannot select the default (choosing NeXT instead) Sep 8 16:01:09 Workspace: Unmounted foreign disk at /warez1 Workspace: Malloc error (see the malloc man page). code = 5 /usr/etc/disk -i -h differencengine -l "Ocularies" /dev/rsd1a disk type: removable_rw_scsi writing disk label can't write label -- disk unusable!: I/O error Does anyone have any suggestions? Perhaps I should low level format the disk? Thanks! Mark Schwettmann -- schwett@netcom.com, schwett@soda.berkeley.edu, schwett@uclink.berkeley.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Question: Mail filter? Message-ID: <1994Sep8.213921.594@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <940907164102.22891AACUK.mmalc@hotaru> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 21:39:21 GMT In article <940907164102.22891AACUK.mmalc@hotaru> mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) writes: > Just to make Paul laugh... > The alternative is to get a ready-built solution from Take Three, aka > Eloquent. Does a whole lot more than just sort mail too (e.g. reads news, > MIME, NewsGrazer, archives mail etc. etc.) and is highly configurable. The > drawback... costs around $175. But IMHO worth it. Eloquent completely escaped my mind at the time. I'd like to see Wes improve the UI just a little (Mail 3.3 shows the experience that NeXT have in UI design, I hear :-), and make news a bit more solid. If Eloquent did just a little more on the news front (their MIME is an excellent idea), I'd drop NewsGrazer like the buggy, antiquated first cut it is (no offense, Jayson). Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SLIPping fast... Date: 9 Sep 1994 01:48:27 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <34oetb$3f4n@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi there - I posted an article a while back requesting help setting up SLIP on my NeXT. To my surprise, about two-dozen people sent mail to me asking for me to forward any help I got, TO THEM!! I'd love to folks, but unfortunately, I still don't have it running. Our university only supports dynamic IP allocation which the SLIP software doesn't handle. Actually, one guy emailed that it might handle it, if I uncommented some stuff from a file, but I haven't had time to try that yet. Will keep you posted with my solution if/when it comes. Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org Subject: MPEG movie ? Message-ID: <1994Sep8.145226.9057@metasoft.fdn.org> Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France. Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 14:52:26 GMT I'm looking for some nice MPEG movies working with MPEG_Play.app, the NeXTSTEP version of the MPEG decoder from the Berkeley Plateau Research Group. Any archive site ? Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax:(+33) 99 35 00 45 Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch (E. Baranzini) Subject: [Q] How to mount a partitioned Macintosh HD Message-ID: <1994Sep9.060528.310@muscat.pr.net.ch> Sender: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 06:05:28 GMT Hi, I think I need the help of the NeXT/Mac gurus. I am running a black NeXT under release 3.1. I try to mount a Macintosh formatted HD (about 1 GB, with 5 partitions) on the NeXT. I do not care about permissions and therefore I have put no mount lines in /etc/fstab nor in netinfo. Now the surprise: only the __first partition__ of the HD is appearing on the NeXT desktop (as a HD with the apple, not as a floppy with the apple: OK). No trace of the remaining partitions. Very bad! Obvious question: how to make the 5 partitions appear on the NeXT? Thanks very much. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Erminio BARANZINI, Seilerstrasse 25, CH-3011 Berne, Switzerland ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jbf@mitre.org (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WANTED: sx, sz XMODEM and ZMODEM for NEXT Date: Fri, 09 Sep 1994 01:29:52 -0500 Organization: Mitre Message-ID: <jbf-0909940129520001@mbppp2.mitre.org> References: <34nqgj$4kl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> There's some kind of problem with these tools and 3.X that I've never seen resolved. I bought a second machine with Microphone and tried it on my modem, which I normally use with a Mac. Fine until I launched sz to download from my host and then a hang. Lots of posts in the past, and the summary seemed to be, "get the patch from SVC". I explored the usual FTP sites and found a presumably patched sz, but it didn't work. Then I got the patch, and all is well. So I'm not sure that there is a workable sz out there but, if you want a worked out solution, try SVC. Barney
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Any fast serial port devices for NeXTStation? Message-ID: <CvtMwG.8z@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <CvsK09.BvG@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 17:21:51 GMT In article <CvsK09.BvG@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) writes: > > Are there any port devices for the NeXTStation that can communicate > at speeds of 115,200bps (or higher)? I recently purchased a Supra > 288 modem and would like to go beyond the 38,400bps barrier on the > serial ports of my slab. there is a package called ttydsp that will use the DSP-port as another tty up to 128000 baud incl. RTS/CTS and DCD/DTR. My info say's that it costs $189 or $129 for students or $149 for educational stuff. Infos should be available at: Yrrid Incorporated 507 Monroe Street Chapel Hill, NC 27516 USA Phone: 1-800-443-0065 or (919) 968-7858 Email: yrrid@world.std.com Look also at NeXTanswers 1357_Connectivity&Emulation.rtf. I don't know if ttydsp is still available. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman) Subject: Re: stupid keyboard/login question Message-ID: <1994Sep9.083950.11717@netcom.com> Sender: gordie@netcom.com Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works References: <34l2r6$v1@panix2.panix.com> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:39:50 GMT In article <34l2r6$v1@panix2.panix.com> rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman) writes: > > Here is the worlds simplest question. > > I want to use a certain keyboard specification. > I have used and understand Keyboard.app and it is cool. > > However, I can't figure out how to get the bloody thing to > use this keymap when I log in. As a result I have to ask > for this keymap each time I log in. HELP. > > --thanks, RS Here is the world's simplest answer. Save the keymap from Keyboard.app in ~/Library/Keyboards/whatever.keymapping (I think Keyboard.app will automatically add the extension), and than go into Preferences.app and select it as your default keyboard. You can also save it in /LocalLibrary/Keyboards/xxx.keymapping -- >>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes! >>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
From: laroche@sig.enst.fr (Jean Laroche ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: non-ascii characters in mail Date: 9 Sep 1994 11:41:47 GMT Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris France Distribution: world Message-ID: <34phlr$r25@enst.enst.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: email ascii Hi everybody Does anyone know of a simple way of handling different non-ascii character sets in email? Problem is: if we get email from macintosh, sun or next stations, the non-ascii characters are coded differently, which makes message reading a real pain. There must be a simple way to solve this problem, maybe someone has done it before? Thanks for any suggestion.. J. Laroche Telecom Paris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.postscript From: singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh) Subject: Re: Why is this printer so slooowww??? (white, 3.2, SHarp JX9460PS) Message-ID: <CvtuDn.M70@fi.gs.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.postscript Sender: news@fi.gs.com (Netnews Administrator) Organization: Fixed Income Division - Goldman, Sachs & Co. References: <34lb1h$fgh@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 20:03:22 GMT Randy Kunkee (kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM) wrote: : About a month bought what looked like a good deal in a Sharp JX9460PS : laser printer. For $800, 6PPM and 600DPI, this printer seemed like a : great deal. : Actually, it still might be. There is just one catch, it's PS level 1. : When I print any kind of file from NeXTStep, it takes about 5 minutes! : I thought this was because I had configured it as 'unknown' and NeXT : was downloading the world, or rasterizing before outputting. However, : I just received PPD files from Sharp in the mail last night, plugged : them in, reconfigured my printer, and no improvement in performance. : I can boot Linux and just cat postscript files directly out to /dev/par1 : and the printer works like a champ, so I think the printer is fine. : I'm really beginning to wonder about the Next OS as far as the parallel : port goes. Does anybody have a clue why this is so slow? : TIA, : Randy : -- : Randy Kunkee : Houston, TX : 713-870-1334 : kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com I would guess it is just a bad driver for the parallel port. Next having come from the unix workstation world is probably not good at supporting the parallel port. I know that on my NeXT it is slow because I have a serial port connection at 38400 bps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: AFS WriteUp and PasteUp Message-ID: <1994Sep9.082832.26241@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:28:32 GMT Hi, I am looking for the fax# and tel# of AFS. I was in touch thru Email with Kristofer_Younger <kyounger@afs.com> and I could not get any answer to my three last Email messages. Thanks Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: hiwat mark for swapfile Message-ID: <jpanicoCvv6FF.5CD@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 13:21:15 GMT from NeXTanswers A hiwat=n parameter may be used in the swaptab to set a limit on how large this file grows. Ok, so what happens when your virtual memory reaches or exceeds this limit? If the swapfile is on a dedicated swapdisk, and the vm reaches the hiwat mark, can the system crash even though the swapdisk has more space than is specfied in the hiwat mark? If hitting the hiwat mark results in a crash, what is the point in having a hiwat mark to begin with? Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] How to mount a partitioned Macintosh HD Date: 9 Sep 1994 13:40:52 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <34pol4$81j@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Sep9.060528.310@muscat.pr.net.ch> In article <1994Sep9.060528.310@muscat.pr.net.ch> ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch (E. Baranzini) writes: # I am running a black NeXT under release 3.1. I try to mount a # Macintosh formatted HD (about 1 GB, with 5 partitions) on the NeXT. I # do not care about permissions and therefore I have put no mount lines # in /etc/fstab nor in netinfo. # # Now the surprise: only the __first partition__ of the HD is appearing # on the NeXT desktop (as a HD with the apple, not as a floppy with the # apple: OK). No trace of the remaining partitions. Very bad! # # Obvious question: how to make the 5 partitions appear on the NeXT? # Thanks very much. You can't. The foreign file system code in NS (for DOS, Mac, etc.) assumes one file system per physical device. That's also why you can only get the first DOS partition on a disk to show up. We would like to address this limitation in the future, but there's no timetable for doing so at this time. Joe Keenan NeXT Technical Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machine Message-ID: <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 13:27:23 GMT Hi, My mailbox is on a Sun right now, and my NeXT (intel) is not hooked up to the net. But sometimes people mail me NeXTMail that I need to import as NeXTMail into NS. Right now I have to download the mail files into dos, and then read them into NS from DOS disks. What is the recipe for getting the fileformat from Unix mail (or Pine) into NeXTMail? Thanks. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: magnus@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: hiwat mark for swapfile References: <jpanicoCvv6FF.5CD@netcom.com> Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Sep9165817@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@festival.ed.ac.uk (remote news read deamon) Organization: ICAPB, Edinburgh University In-Reply-To: jpanico@netcom.com's message of Fri, 9 Sep 1994 13:21:15 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 15:58:17 GMT In article <jpanicoCvv6FF.5CD@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: > from NeXTanswers > > A hiwat=n parameter may be used in the swaptab to set a limit on how > large this file grows. > > Ok, so what happens when your virtual memory reaches or exceeds this limit? In my experience, the process asking for more memory freezes (lots of messages appear in /private/adm/messages about no more swap). It is then possible to kill that process (in my case, kill Mathematica). It shouldn't be very hard to try for yourself, though -- just write a C program that ask for lots of memory. I have heard of people having crashes as well, though. > If the swapfile is on a dedicated swapdisk, and the vm reaches the hiwat > mark, can the system crash even though the swapdisk has more space than > is specfied in the hiwat mark? Probably, there should be no logical difference. > If hitting the hiwat mark results in a crash, what is the point in having > a hiwat mark to begin with? That the file system does not fill up so that you have to boot single user and clean up manually before rebooting again to reset the swap file. > Joe Panico > jpanico@netcom.com > > -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: hiwat mark for swapfile Date: 9 Sep 1994 16:30:57 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <34q2k1$d89@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <jpanicoCvv6FF.5CD@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: >A hiwat=n parameter may be used in the swaptab to set a limit on how >large this file grows. >Ok, so what happens when your virtual memory reaches or exceeds this limit? Your system freezes (or at least mine did) >If the swapfile is on a dedicated swapdisk, and the vm reaches the hiwat >mark, can the system crash even though the swapdisk has more space than >is specfied in the hiwat mark? Yup. >If hitting the hiwat mark results in a crash, what is the point in having >a hiwat mark to begin with? Beats me, unless your swapspace is a partition on your main disk and you need to define its size. -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: WANTED: sx, sz XMODEM and ZMODEM for NEXT Message-ID: <CvvCnD.6t@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <34nqgj$4kl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 15:35:36 GMT In article <34nqgj$4kl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) writes: > Hi, does anyone know where I can find the sx and sz programs for > the NeXT?? There is /pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/tip_zmodem.N.bs.tar.gz or /pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/rzsz.0525.NI.bs.tar.gz on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de for example. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Doom LoginPanel.tiff Date: 9 Sep 1994 17:47:38 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <34q73q$lvj@transfer.stratus.com> Here's my personal LoginPanel.tiff, using a few images from here and there. Notes on how use this follow. The images I used were extracted from the game Doom, and from other images posted to the net. Everybody still retains their copyrights, so don't try to sell this work of art for money. For the newbie ... This file replaces the standard LoginPanel.tiff that comes with NeXTSTEP. You must log in as root, and copy this file into /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app,replacing the existing LoginWindow.tiff. Logout as root. The login panel will be sofar unchanged. Type exit as your user name, and the loginwindow application will restart, showing the new panel. If this is the kind of thing you expect to do often, create a link, /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/LoginPanel.tiff, pointing to some place you don't need root access to update (such as your home directory). Other notes ... I didn't bother to create a 2-bit version of this. I'm actually not sure what happens if you decide to use 2-bit, but probably you';ll get a pretty ugly 2-bit version of the above. The background grey looks simply, but is actually very complex. There is a subtle circular gradation that seems to simulate a specular reflection from a light source over the viewer's left shoulder. If you look carefully at the NeXT cube, and the wounded Doomer, you can see that the greys just don't match! If really wish NeXT would provide an empty LoginPanel canvas with the clever gradation in it! -- Uh-oh!! I forgot to submit to COMPULSORY URINALYSIS! 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni) Subject: Re: hiwat mark for swapfile Message-ID: <CvvJLJ.n1w@prosoft.wimsey.com> Sender: glen@prosoft.wimsey.com (Glen Biagioni) Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc. References: <jpanicoCvv6FF.5CD@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 18:05:43 GMT In article <jpanicoCvv6FF.5CD@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: > from NeXTanswers > > A hiwat=n parameter may be used in the swaptab to set a limit on how > large this file grows. > > Ok, so what happens when your virtual memory reaches or exceeds this limit? > > If the swapfile is on a dedicated swapdisk, and the vm reaches the hiwat > mark, can the system crash even though the swapdisk has more space than > is specfied in the hiwat mark? > > If hitting the hiwat mark results in a crash, what is the point in having > a hiwat mark to begin with? > > Joe Panico > jpanico@netcom.com > hiwat mark useful when you have multiple swapfiles. -- Glen Biagioni glen@prosoft.com (NeXTmail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Questions about NS/Intel installation Message-ID: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 21:02:43 GMT Since it doesn't appear to be possible to netboot a PC into NeXTSTEP (at least it seems that way from the lack of response), I've decided to go ahead and put NeXTSTEP onto the PC itself. This raises a few questions, that I'm hoping to get the answers for. What are the currently available SCSI drivers? What brand of SCSI card must I have in order to install NeXTSTEP from the CD? Is it still required to disconnect the 5.25" drive? Does it have to be physically disconnected, or can it be disabled in the BIOS? Can NeXTSTEP be placed on the second physical IDE drive, and still be booted? Is there a boot manager that can boot partitions off of the second drive, or is it required to make a partition on the primary drive for all OSs you wish to boot? Thanks! -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews) Subject: Re: [Q] How to mount a partitioned Macintosh HD Message-ID: <CvvuJr.G2w@kitsune.abq.nm.us> Originator: ctm@kitsune.swcp.com Sender: news@kitsune.abq.nm.us Organization: ARDI References: <1994Sep9.060528.310@muscat.pr.net.ch> <34pol4$81j@rosie.next.com> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 22:02:13 GMT In article <34pol4$81j@rosie.next.com>, Joe Keenan <Joe_Keenan@next.com> wrote: >In article <1994Sep9.060528.310@muscat.pr.net.ch> >ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch (E. Baranzini) writes: ># I am running a black NeXT under release 3.1. I try to mount a ># Macintosh formatted HD (about 1 GB, with 5 partitions) on the NeXT. I ># do not care about permissions and therefore I have put no mount lines ># in /etc/fstab nor in netinfo. ># ># Now the surprise: only the __first partition__ of the HD is appearing ># on the NeXT desktop (as a HD with the apple, not as a floppy with the ># apple: OK). No trace of the remaining partitions. Very bad! ># ># Obvious question: how to make the 5 partitions appear on the NeXT? ># Thanks very much. > >You can't. The foreign file system code in NS (for DOS, Mac, etc.) >assumes one file system per physical device. That's also why you can >only get the first DOS partition on a disk to show up. > >We would like to address this limitation in the future, but there's no >timetable for doing so at this time. Executor can access all the partitions, but you'll have to use Executor to copy in and out of the partition, since Executor doesn't export the filesystem to the rest of your machine. So if you just want to copy a file or directory to or from one of those inaccessible partitions, do this: Pick up Executor from cs.orst.edu Install it Use "df" to find out what scsi disk number (NOT necessarily the scsi target) NEXTSTEP assigned your Mac drive Drag the NeXT Macintosh drive to your trash to dismount it Fire up Executor Give "demo" when asked for your serial number Click on the initial "OK" button In a terminal type: "/usr/filesystems/HFS_XFer.fs/HFS_XFer.util -p sdN" (where the trailing N is the number NEXTSTEP assigned your Mac drive) Run a small program, like "Mines" Choose the "HFS_XFer" menu selection in the Apple menu Fiddle around with HFS_XFer until you've copied what you want NOTE: you can do all the above without purchasing Executor. If you run into trouble, send e-mail to "questions@ardi.com". Just *don'* ask us why Executor and NEXTSTEP have so much trouble playing together nicely; it's not a happy topic. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next Subject: NEEDED: sx,rx,sz,rz programs for NeXT Followup-To: poster Date: 9 Sep 1994 23:51:36 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <34qse8$js6@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Does anyone have and I idea where I can get the XModem and ZModem send and recieve programs for the NeXT?? If not does anyone know of a good ( and free ) term program I can use? Thanks, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- The power of UNIX must prevail. The evil Microsoft must be stopped!! -- NeXTStep, the operating system of the future, today. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: slfink@netcom.com (Steven Finkelman) Subject: Re: receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machine Message-ID: <slfinkCvvr0B.CzG@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 20:45:47 GMT Joe Panico (jpanico@netcom.com) wrote: : Hi, : My mailbox is on a Sun right now, and my NeXT (intel) is not hooked up : to the net. But sometimes people mail me NeXTMail that I need to import : as NeXTMail into NS. Right now I have to download the mail files into : dos, and then read them into NS from DOS disks. : What is the recipe for getting the fileformat from Unix mail (or Pine) : into NeXTMail? I am doing the something along the same lines as you, Recieving NeXTMail on a pc, frequently with sound files, graphic files, rtf, eps. What I have found it that Nextmail files are tarred,compressed, uuencoded and attached to a header. Right now I am using pine as a mail reader. export the message body to another file, uudecode that part, change the resultant name to *.Z then zcat | tar -xvf -. I do this on the server, and download the parts to my pc. The sound files are .au format files, the magic number says .snd they are playable with plany(downloaded frrom simtel). I am still working with recoeving graphic files, Mostly they are created in a propriatary format with code appended to it. However sometimes tiff format files are sent. (jpeg routine would be nice feature for next). how next mail works with berkley mail style is that when invoked, it looks for usr/spool/mail/<usrname> , removes this mail and places the document heirarchy in its own file system. where Nextmail can opperate in it. if you save the user/spool/mail/you file from the sun and copy it to disk, then give it to the next that should work and you will get full nextmail facility. To go the other way copy the outbound spool file from Next and give it to the sun as the outgoing spool name and you should be able to send. If anyone has an easier way to do any of this I'd appreciate any input. thx -- Steven Finkelman DATA/Massage slfink@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Subject: Re: non-ascii characters in mail Message-ID: <Sep10.004603.27188@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 00:46:03 GMT References: <34phlr$r25@enst.enst.fr> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada In article <34phlr$r25@enst.enst.fr> laroche@sig.enst.fr (Jean Laroche ) writes: > Hi everybody > Does anyone know of a simple way of handling different non-ascii > character sets in email? Problem is: if we get email from macintosh, sun > or next stations, the non-ascii characters are coded differently, which > makes message reading a real pain. There must be a simple way to solve > this problem, maybe someone has done > it before? > Thanks for any suggestion.. > J. Laroche > Telecom Paris I have simple scripts for IBM-PC to NeXT encoding, and ANSI (i.e. Windoze) to NeXT encoding, and vice-versa. They are *not* perfect, are not robust about incompatible characters, but do cover most of the common characters. The scripts just use "tr", and theoretically you could sit down with the character set tables and modify them to support whatever platforms you want. Would that help? What is really needed is a generalized tool for transliterating character sets, and then add in the table for NeXT's ISOLatin1 encoding. There *must* to be something like that already around. -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: Is Quix still around? Whats the story? Message-ID: <Cvv6Fo.3t5@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <Cvt1Is.IzJ@jura.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 13:21:24 GMT In article <Cvt1Is.IzJ@jura.demon.co.uk> jura.demon.co.uk!haldane (Steve Sykes) writes: > In article <34a7dp$90l@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu > (Maurice Shihadi) writes: > > I was looking forward to their next software version and now I hear > > they might be gone. Anyone know whats up? > > > > > > maurices > > > > Well, I spoke to Andy Grawehr of QUIX on the telephone a couple of days > ago, and he seemed to still be in business. However, in my experience he > does not respond to email or facsimiles. Other posts in this group have > indicated that QUIX's after sales support is hopeless - but I found Andy > to be very helpful. I haven't bought a Daydream yet though. > > The 'phone number is +41 41 34 8828. > > -- > -- > Stephen D.Sykes _______| Have you __| NeXT | Classic FM > haldane@jura.demon.co.uk | hugged your | mail __| London, U.K. > +44 71 284 3000 (daytime) _-| radio today? _-| O.K. __| NW1 7DQ They're still alive. I just purchased daydream for a customer from dancing bear. They had just gotten in a shipment which sold quickly, I think. --- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu moksha!mgb@bliss.stetson.edu NeXT mail welcome ! -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.postscript Subject: Re: Why is this printer so slooowww??? (white, 3.2, SHarp JX9460PS) Date: 10 Sep 1994 04:45:58 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL Message-ID: <34rdm6$3hg@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <34lb1h$fgh@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> <CvtuDn.M70@fi.gs.com> In article <CvtuDn.M70@fi.gs.com>, Kunal Singh <singhk@fi.gs.com> wrote: >Randy Kunkee (kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM) wrote: >: About a month bought what looked like a good deal in a Sharp JX9460PS >: laser printer. For $800, 6PPM and 600DPI, this printer seemed like a >: great deal. > >: Actually, it still might be. There is just one catch, it's PS level 1. >: When I print any kind of file from NeXTStep, it takes about 5 minutes! > > > >I would guess it is just a bad driver for the parallel port. Next >having come from the unix workstation world is probably not good at >supporting the parallel port. > Does the printer require bidirectional i/o? The current next driver can send data, but not recieve (other than some control signalling). If the printer sends something to the PC and waits for a reply it will have to wait a long time...... I have no problem with the parallel port and an HP 4ML. Its 300 dpi and PS Level 2. No delays or hassles, just works. You might want to check your cable. Perhaps the protocols involving the control signals and required wiring aren't the same under Linux. BTW, are using correct i/o port and interrupt? -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CFS Message-ID: <1994Sep9.221842.26810@cc.usu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 9 Sep 94 22:18:42 MDT Organization: As little as I can get away with... Is anyone using CFS on a NeXT? -- kc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: .WAV files contain movies. Can I play them? Message-ID: <1994Sep10.105204.5586@rna.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.nl Organization: G.R.O.S.S. Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 10:52:04 GMT I don't know what .WAV files (probably from the MS-Windows world) exactly contain. Is there a way to play them under NS? Thanks, --Gerben -- gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: .WAV files contain movies. Can I play them? Message-ID: <Cvx2y1.p7@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <1994Sep10.105204.5586@rna.nl> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 14:01:12 GMT Gerben Wierda (gerben@rna.nl) wrote: : I don't know what .WAV files (probably from the MS-Windows world) exactly : contain. Is there a way to play them under NS? WAV's are sound files. Either pick up a copy of GISO.app from the archives for converting, or grab Malcolms sound inspector (if he has made it publically available....(?) Later jay -- ******************************************************************* Jason Bright jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca "I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma." -The Wizard of Oz
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: stupid keyboard/login question Date: 10 Sep 1994 12:25:50 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <34smme$dvi@panix2.panix.com> References: <34l2r6$v1@panix2.panix.com> <1994Sep9.083950.11717@netcom.com> A small additional comment. Make your keymappinf file a unique filename. I was trying to replace the USA keyboard and it seems preferences has fucked up precedences (ironic??), ie global (NextLibrary) then local (LocalLibrary/home directory), any comments on this ?? --later, RS
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: non-ascii characters in mail Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 12:27:07 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <giQRtPy00iUy41ot83@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Sep10.004603.27188@acs.ucalgary.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 10-Sep-94 Re: non-ascii characters in.. by Andrew MacRae@geo.ucalga > What is really needed is a generalized tool for transliterating > character sets, and then add in the table for NeXT's ISOLatin1 encoding. > There *must* to be something like that already around. GNU recode, available frm prep.ai.mit.edu in /pub/gnu. It understands NeXT's ISOLatin1 along with the more common formats.... -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SLIPping fast... Date: 10 Sep 1994 16:45:42 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <34snrm$apb@news.onramp.net> References: <34oetb$3f4n@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> In article <34oetb$3f4n@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) writes: > Hi there - > > I posted an article a while back requesting help setting up > SLIP on my NeXT. To my surprise, about two-dozen people sent mail > to me asking for me to forward any help I got, TO THEM!! I'd love > to folks, but unfortunately, I still don't have it running. Our > university only supports dynamic IP allocation which the SLIP > software doesn't handle. Actually, one guy emailed that it might > handle it, if I uncommented some stuff from a file, but I haven't > had time to try that yet. Will keep you posted with my solution > if/when it comes. If you are using Transys PNI or DialUpIP, the dynamic IP allocation is fairly easy to configure. Here is the procedure: 1. use a terminal emulation program to dial into your university account. Login with your username and password and then (if required) select SLIP from the prompt or menu. After the Slip line is negotiated, a message will be sent to your terminal that has the following form: Our address is XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX Your address is XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX The exact content of this message may vary. Make a note of the exact wording of this message. Note: you can ignore the actual IP numbers since the only information you are concerned with is the text and any punctuation. 2. open the login-XXXX.tcl script file and insert the following section at the end of the file, replacing the text in the rexpect line to the text you obtained in step 1. # Use regular-expression based expect command to match addresses in message # that the terminal server sends. # rexpect {Our address is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+).+Your address is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+)[^0-9]} # # ifconfig the interface, # exec /etc/ifconfig $interface $2 $1 # log "Server address is $1, my address should be $2" # # wait a bit for server to switch to SLIP mode # sleep 1 # # that's all return "Connected" 3. This should be all that is needed. Remember to put the above section as the last section of the file and only change the text which preceeds the IP numbers I hope this helps all those who have had trouble using dynamic IP addressing with SLIP. Please feel free to email me if you still have problems. -- Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machine Date: 10 Sep 1994 16:59:40 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <34sols$b52@news.onramp.net> References: <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> In article <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: > Hi, > > My mailbox is on a Sun right now, and my NeXT (intel) is not hooked up > to the net. But sometimes people mail me NeXTMail that I need to import > as NeXTMail into NS. Right now I have to download the mail files into > dos, and then read them into NS from DOS disks. > > What is the recipe for getting the fileformat from Unix mail (or Pine) > into NeXTMail? I am not sure if I understand what you are asking, but here is an excerpt from In_Focus volume 3, issue 1, winter 1993: to decode e-mail with Rich Text or file attachments NeXTmail uses UNIX utilities to encode Rich Text messages and file attachments into a standard format. First, the mail message and any attachments are packed into a single archive file with tar. This file isthen compressed with compress and run through a utility called uuencode, which takes nonprintable and 8-bit ASCII characters andexpands them into 7-bit ASCII characters. Files processed by uuencode are somewhat larger, but they can be safely passed on to older communications links and mailers that choke on anything but 7-bit ASCII. To unpack a mail message, you just reverse the process, using uudecode, zcat or uncompress, and tar. You can unpack mail messages on the office network and transfer the resulting files home, oryou can transfer mail messages home and then unpack them. A packed message is contained in a single file that's smaller than the unpacked message, soit's faster to transfer messages and then unpack them on your home computer. If you want to transfer only part of the message, or if you don't have access to UNIX commands on your home computer, you'llneed to unpack the message before transferring the components you want. When you use mail to examine a NeXTmail message with Rich Text or attachments, it looks like very nicely formatted random characters. Here's a sample: From jwong Sun Oct 25 23:11:29 1992 Return-Path: <jwong> Received: by next.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA00499; Sun, 25 Oct 92 23:11:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 92 23:11:24 -0500 From: John Wong <jwong> Message-Id: <9210260411.AA00499@next.com> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) To: jwong Subject: Hey, John Next-Attachment: .tar.471.Hey__John.attach, 1361, 1/1, 1914, 0 Status: R begin 666 .tar.471.Hey__John.attach M'YV0:=R0*8/'A1PZ9@`H7,BPH<.'$"-*G$BQ(HB+-FC0``'@(H@:,6QP]'@1 MQDB2'F>$O%A#Q@T9-FS<N$'CAL<:-V+,Z%BQI\^?0(,*'4JTJ-&C2),J7;IT M#Y>#9F!P">-F3AJG9MZXH4-'#!LN4<&Z2<,&!)4T;<K,:2'E31NJ._HHX/)6 MSADV,63`F%OWC)R\>[G`"2.'#!<Z>'+8D(HX1@Z]A_'(P(&#,9X9.&A8IE'9 M,L[%D65"1GS#1N7(.#):5@Q#:E@Q4M-(K</&C=8R8.=P!CM&ZIBH(*:X+0-" M2IHQ:,P2I,,"Q!,V9$`(J4.&3!X7V+G,5:!FC78%<IF4(>(BQXV&`2Z-`(`! M``,@0)J$<7)&//D<.-!?(L'>/7SY]-E77@[ZE=!?`__-5]]X+L30&D/IF7!@ M@@$RZ&`,$%YRPH3Q*2B@@S)DB`*'`"Y(GH,[+91>"B1Z:"$,-&2H0HL5G@A# M#1FN0*.)#<)@0X8L[/@A#.>I>$D+0KZ8GY$N)&DC@4:^<"!35%9IY9589JGE MEEQVZ>678(8IYIADEFGFF6BFJ>::`5A2#0`4`+``A3S&"$";UL`I)YT"XGBG M)=?H.6>'-;KPXY_8",HG@T6VF8VBA/*X9)O:0%JB@%"VN4U_[T4ZI$/Z_,#I MHB=B"*$EW(SJJ84AGMJ-JI=:F***EG@#JXLGVDGK-[<6&H.?#+TR2*\\AH2> M)>`0^V&1#.D#A+(6+LG0(,)`>R*4M(9CK0MZ.?0*(=O*8"JMXH3;:K-!A#NK M0FV.$ZZN"PTR3+C`LFL).>$>&FPAX3)K;SGA2FNO.>%B:^\YV\X`P['H)#RN MO>DD?*Z]ZB2\[IUKZ)`PO'^ZDW"]"EU1<7N=QDK>#/K:^T["_BJD#[\DD^H" M9NBML4/"!O\)S[::'1L/SP\KA$4//$^LD#-P\'QQF_+PS#$`U80`0)`EX^H" M#2`;18!"51=*0\I_SL-SRP"XTP'/`O])#\\Y`Z"/(=O6L/"I]<0==``YG!WS MJN2U=*P]<2]MR3UQ<]PF/G&#W&8^<8/=ICYQM]SF/G&GW28_<>?<9C_;+G:L M/YW?;<D_G1N=GD)[FVSHTI<$T+GAEPC0N>*7#-"YXY=LG;K5,NE70.>67V)` MYYI?<L"V-\QM)`+(WWU)`LB;?HD"R+.^`/*P,X`\[0T@C[L#R$M^R0/(!P\! M\L5'L&UE^DFPOO,3K"]]G+L7B@/K%:P/NP7KTW[!^KAKSXBZ)BFR!65K_N&; #"R@# ` end If you want to know how large a message is so you know whether it's feasible to pull over the entire packed message, look at the number after "attach" in the line that begins "Next-Attachment:". In this example, 1361 is the number of characters in the message from the word "begin" through the word "end." Let's step through extracting a Rich Text message, assuming you've already logged into your network computer from home and are running mail: 1. Save the packed message into a file and then exit mail. Here's an example of saving a message into a file called /tmp/mail (input is in bold; prompts are in italics): earth> mail Mail version 5.3 2/18/88. Type ? for help. "/usr/spool/mail/jwong": 1 message 1 new 0 unread >1 jwong Sun Oct 25 23:11 40/1791 "Hey, John" & save 1 /tmp/mail "/tmp/mail" [New file] 39/1791 & exit earth> Be aware that using the quit command eliminates the message fromthe spool directory. If you want to keep the message, use exit instead. 2. If you're going to unpack the message on your home computer, transfer the file /tmp/mail home and perform the next three steps on your home computer. If not, perform the next three steps on the network computer. 3. Use your favorite command-line text editor (like ed, vi, or emacs) to edit the file you've saved the message into (/tmp/mail in the example). First, delete everything before the line that starts with "begin": begin 666 .tar.471.Hey__John.attach This line tells uudecode both the file name to place the decoded file in (.tar.471.Hey__John.attach) and the permissions to set on that file once it's done (666). See the UNIX manual page for ls to learn how permission bits translate into those numbers. Change the long file name (.tar.471.Hey__John.attach) to something easier for uuencode and tar to work with, like mail.tar.Z. Zisthe standard suffix for a compressed file, and .tar is a conventional suffix for a tape archive that's been stuffed into a regular file. Save the file and exit the editor. 4. Use cd to get to /tmp and then use uudecode to extract the compressed tar file: earth> ls console.log mail earth> uudecode mail earth> ls console.log mail mail.tar.Z Notice that uudecode has created the file you named on the "begin" line: mail.tar.Z. 5. Uncompress the archive and extract the mail message and any attachments (zcat is a version of uncompress that was created for use in a pipeline): earth> zcat mail.tar.Z | tar xvf - x index.rtf, 206 bytes, 1 tape blocks The Rich Text message will always be in a file called index.rtf; you may have to hunt for any file attachments, because they'll have the same names as the original files. 6. If you've been doing your unpacking on the network computer, transfer the document and any attachments over to your home computer. You may want to use a file transfer utility such as Kermit or Xmodem, especially if your modem doesn't provide error correction. If your home computer isn't running NeXTSTEP, any RTF files can be examined using a text editor or just by displaying the files from the command line with cat or more. Because RTF is ASCII-based, it's surprisingly readable from the command line-there are just a lot of extra backslashes and numbers to ignore. Any attached files will only be useful on your home computer if youhave the corresponding applications, such as WordPerfect, or WriteNow,. Hope this answers your question. -- Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: mudge@madwand.tiac.net (Mudge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any fast serial port devices for NeXTStation? Date: 10 Sep 1994 16:57:34 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <34sohu$ohv@sundog.tiac.net> References: <CvtMwG.8z@nexus1.oche.de> In article <CvtMwG.8z@nexus1.oche.de> michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) writes: > In article <CvsK09.BvG@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> > georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) writes: > > > > Are there any port devices for the NeXTStation that can communicate > > at speeds of 115,200bps (or higher)? I recently purchased a Supra > > 288 modem and would like to go beyond the 38,400bps barrier on the > > serial ports of my slab. > > there is a package called ttydsp that will use the DSP-port as > another tty up to 128000 baud incl. RTS/CTS and DCD/DTR. > > My info say's that it costs $189 or $129 for students or $149 for > educational stuff. > > Infos should be available at: > Yrrid Incorporated > 507 Monroe Street > Chapel Hill, NC 27516 USA > > Phone: 1-800-443-0065 or (919) 968-7858 > Email: yrrid@world.std.com > > Look also at NeXTanswers 1357_Connectivity&Emulation.rtf. I don't > know if ttydsp is still available. > > Bye, Michael > -- > *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen > *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 > *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome) Here's the info that Yrrid sent to me on the TTYDSP product. Hope this helps. mudge@madwand.tiac.net TTYDSP V1.1 Product Information TTYDSP is a hardware and software package which uses the Digital Signal Processor (DSP) and DSP port on a NeXT computer to provide a third RS-232 compatible serial port, accessible through the standard UNIX tty interface. System Requirements - NeXT computer running NeXTSTEP 3.0 or higher - 3.5" floppy disk drive. Features - Reliable, efficient, high-performance serial communications. - Wide selection of baud rates, including 57,600 and 76,800 baud, with a top speed of 128,000 baud. - Compatibility with existing NeXT serial port communications software. - Dedicated use of the DSP. - RS-232C with RTS/CTS (hard flow control) and DCD/DTR control lines. Target Applications - High speed modems (9600 baud and greater). - Driving high performance printers and plotters. - Data acquisition. Using the NeXT's DSP, TTYDSP creates a third, powerful serial port on the NeXT computer which improves system performance for high-speed serial transfers and offers the throughput required for high performance peripherals. Contact Yrrid for information regarding SLIP/PPP compatibility. Pricing and availability: The TTYDSP list price is $189. TTYDSP is now available from Next Connection 1-800-800-NEXT or (603) 446-7771 Educational discounts: TTYDSP costs $129 plus shipping and handling for students and $149 for educational staff. Educational discounts are only available directly from Yrrid. Yrrid Incorporated 507 Monroe Street Chapel Hill, NC 27516 USA Phone: 1-800-443-0065 or (919) 968-7858 Email: yrrid@yrrid.com
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cs.orst.edu archive down? Date: 10 Sep 1994 17:20:21 GMT Message-ID: <34spsl$11km@tequesta.gate.net> Anonymous ftp to cs.orst.edu works but the /pub/next directory is devoid of any software. I hope this is not permanent... Any thoughts? -Rob -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert K. Wilson, Esq. | 19497 Planters Point Drive | NeXT Mail Accepted Boca Raton, FL 33434 | Internet: rwilson@gate.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: .WAV files contain movies. Can I play them? Message-ID: <1994Sep10.171925.6899@rna.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.nl Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <Cvx2y1.p7@cunews.carleton.ca> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 17:19:25 GMT Jason Bright writes > Gerben Wierda (gerben@rna.nl) wrote: > : I don't know what .WAV files (probably from the MS-Windows world) exactly > : contain. Is there a way to play them under NS? > > WAV's are sound files. Either pick up a copy of GISO.app from the > archives for converting, or grab Malcolms sound inspector (if he has > made it publically available....(?) > Thanks, additional question: If a MPEG file and a WAV file have the movie and the accompanying sound, is there a way to combine them? -- gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: gmoriart@boron.helios.nd.edu (Keylime) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Converting WriteNow -> Wordperfect Date: 10 Sep 1994 17:56:45 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Distribution: world Message-ID: <34ss0t$dlp@news.nd.edu> I've got four files in WriteNow format. Someone want to convert them for me to an accepted format (Wordperfect, Word, Postscript, etc)? They're papers I wrote in Philosophy. I like to keep all the papers I've written just for the hell of it. Email me if you want me to send them to you, or get them at: http://www.nd.edu/StudentLinks/gmoriart/Nexthelp.html and send them back to me. Thanks :-) --- Greg Moriarty gmoriart@bach.helios.nd.edu http://www.nd.edu/StudentLinks/gmoriart/KeysRoom.html
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cs.orst.edu archive down? Date: 10 Sep 1994 19:32:48 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <34t1l0$fu3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <34spsl$11km@tequesta.gate.net> Robert Wilson (rwilson@gate.net) wrote: : Anonymous ftp to cs.orst.edu works but the /pub/next directory is devoid : of any software. : I hope this is not permanent... : Any thoughts? : -Rob I was just there too, and saw that all was gone... but that has happened before so I don't think anything is wrong... maybe they are working on the system...... Gary __________________________________________________________________ stimpy@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list __________________________________________________________________
From: cmarq@salyko.cube.net (Christoph Marquardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Doom LoginPanel.tiff Date: 10 Sep 1994 19:58:49 GMT Organization: CUBENet Multiline BBS Message-ID: <34t35p$h59@salyko.cube.net> PLEASE ! Never post any megs here. Not everyone has got a free isdn link. ;) -- Christoph Marquardt - cmarq@cube.net (NO NeXTmail,please)- finger for more info
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cs.orst.edu archive down? Date: 10 Sep 1994 21:45:30 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <34tnfq$2mn@anshar.shadow.net> References: <34spsl$11km@tequesta.gate.net> Robert Wilson (rwilson@gate.net) wrote: : Anonymous ftp to cs.orst.edu works but the /pub/next directory is devoid : of any software. : I hope this is not permanent... : Any thoughts? cs.orst.edu has been moved to ftp.cs.orst.edu, but no files as of yet.
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is the address of Talus? Date: 11 Sep 1994 05:08:56 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <34u3d8$4dn@news.cerf.net> What is the address of Talus who sells the T100 notebook? Murshid@unit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford) Subject: Re: Why is this printer so slooowww??? (white, 3.2, SHarp JX9460PS) Message-ID: <1994Sep11.055435.7106@venice.sedd.trw.com> Originator: blanford@arkenstone Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News) Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA References: <34rdm6$3hg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 05:54:35 GMT Randy Kunkee (kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM) wrote: > About a month bought what looked like a good deal in a Sharp JX9460PS > laser printer. For $800, 6PPM and 600DPI, this printer seemed like a > great deal. > > Actually, it still might be. There is just one catch, it's PS level 1. > When I print any kind of file from NeXTStep, it takes about 5 minutes! I have the same printer installed as a generic Postscript printer on the parallel port. I just timed a four-page multifont text document at about 50 seconds. To my mind that's close enough to an advertiser's 6PPM. I conclude that your problem is not inherent to Nextstep, nor to Sharp's implementation of the Postscript spec. I would look carefully at the configuration of the parallel port and the printer. -- Ron blanford@gemstone.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: slfink@netcom.com (Steven Finkelman) Subject: Re: receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machine Message-ID: <slfinkCvyDo0.Fw8@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> <34sols$b52@news.onramp.net> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 06:50:23 GMT This is a very good article, I wish I had it three weeks ago, oh well, there are some things I might add, see annotations: Mark Wauchope (apache@onramp.net) wrote: : to decode e-mail with Rich Text or file attachments : NeXTmail uses UNIX utilities to encode Rich Text messages and file : attachments into a standard format. First, the mail message and any : attachments are packed into a single archive file with tar. This file : isthen compressed with compress and run through a utility called uuencode, : which takes nonprintable and 8-bit ASCII characters andexpands them into : 7-bit ASCII characters. Files processed by uuencode are somewhat larger, : but they can be safely passed on to older communications links and mailers : that choke on anything but : 7-bit ASCII. : To unpack a mail message, you just reverse the process, using uudecode, : zcat or uncompress, and tar. You can unpack mail messages on the office : network and transfer the resulting files home, oryou can transfer mail : messages home and then unpack them. A packed message is contained in a : single file that's smaller than the unpacked message, soit's faster to : transfer messages and then unpack them on your home computer. If you want : to transfer only part of the message, or if you don't have access to UNIX : commands on your home computer, you'llneed to unpack the message before : transferring the components you want. : When you use mail to examine a NeXTmail message with Rich Text or : attachments, it looks like very nicely formatted random characters. Here's : a sample: : From jwong Sun Oct 25 23:11:29 1992 : Return-Path: <jwong> : Received: by next.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) : id AA00499; Sun, 25 Oct 92 23:11:24 -0500 : Date: Sun, 25 Oct 92 23:11:24 -0500 : From: John Wong <jwong> : Message-Id: <9210260411.AA00499@next.com> : Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) : Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) : To: jwong : Subject: Hey, John : Next-Attachment: .tar.471.Hey__John.attach, 1361, 1/1, 1914, 0 : Status: R : begin 666 .tar.471.Hey__John.attach : M'YV0:=R0*8/'A1PZ9@`H7,BPH<.'$"-*G$BQ(HB+-FC0``'@(H@:,6QP]'@1 : MQDB2'F>$O%A#Q@T9-FS<N$'CAL<:-V+,Z%BQI\^?0(,*'4JTJ-&C2),J7;IT : M#Y>#9F!P">-F3AJG9MZXH4-'#!LN4<&Z2<,&!)4T;<K,:2'E31NJ._HHX/)6 : MSADV,63`F%OWC)R\>[G`"2.'#!<Z>'+8D(HX1@Z]A_'(P(&#,9X9.&A8IE'9 : M,L[%D65"1GS#1N7(.#):5@Q#:E@Q4M-(K</&C=8R8.=P!CM&ZIBH(*:X+0-" : M2IHQ:,P2I,,"Q!,V9$`(J4.&3!X7V+G,5:!FC78%<IF4(>(BQXV&`2Z-`(`! : M``,@0)J$<7)&//D<.-!?(L'>/7SY]-E77@[ZE=!?`__-5]]X+L30&D/IF7!@ : M@@$RZ&`,$%YRPH3Q*2B@@S)DB`*'`"Y(GH,[+91>"B1Z:"$,-&2H0HL5G@A# : M#1FN0*.)#<)@0X8L[/@A#.>I>$D+0KZ8GY$N)&DC@4:^<"!35%9IY9589JGE : MEEQVZ>678(8IYIADEFGFF6BFJ>::`5A2#0`4`+``A3S&"$";UL`I)YT"XGBG : M)=?H.6>'-;KPXY_8",HG@T6VF8VBA/*X9)O:0%JB@%"VN4U_[T4ZI$/Z_,#I : MHB=B"*$EW(SJJ84AGMJ-JI=:F***EG@#JXLGVDGK-[<6&H.?#+TR2*\\AH2> : M)>`0^V&1#.D#A+(6+LG0(,)`>R*4M(9CK0MZ.?0*(=O*8"JMXH3;:K-!A#NK : M0FV.$ZZN"PTR3+C`LFL).>$>&FPAX3)K;SGA2FNO.>%B:^\YV\X`P['H)#RN : MO>DD?*Z]ZB2\[IUKZ)`PO'^ZDW"]"EU1<7N=QDK>#/K:^T["_BJD#[\DD^H" : M9NBML4/"!O\)S[::'1L/SP\KA$4//$^LD#-P\'QQF_+PS#$`U80`0)`EX^H" : M#2`;18!"51=*0\I_SL-SRP"XTP'/`O])#\\Y`Z"/(=O6L/"I]<0==``YG!WS : MJN2U=*P]<2]MR3UQ<]PF/G&#W&8^<8/=ICYQM]SF/G&GW28_<>?<9C_;+G:L : M/YW?;<D_G1N=GD)[FVSHTI<$T+GAEPC0N>*7#-"YXY=LG;K5,NE70.>67V)` : MYYI?<L"V-\QM)`+(WWU)`LB;?HD"R+.^`/*P,X`\[0T@C[L#R$M^R0/(!P\! : M\L5'L&UE^DFPOO,3K"]]G+L7B@/K%:P/NP7KTW[!^KAKSXBZ)BFR!65K_N&; : #"R@# : ` : end : If you want to know how large a message is so you know whether it's : feasible to pull over the entire packed message, look at the number after : "attach" in the line that begins "Next-Attachment:". In this example, 1361 : is the number of characters in the message from the word "begin" through : the word "end." : Let's step through extracting a Rich Text message, assuming you've already : logged into your network computer from home and are running mail: : 1. Save the packed message into a file and then exit mail. Here's an : example of saving a message into a file called /tmp/mail (input is in : bold; prompts are in italics): : earth> mail : Mail version 5.3 2/18/88. Type ? for help. : "/usr/spool/mail/jwong": 1 message 1 new 0 unread : >1 jwong Sun Oct 25 23:11 40/1791 "Hey, John" : & save 1 /tmp/mail : "/tmp/mail" [New file] 39/1791 : & exit : earth> with PINE use extract command and give a file name when prompted. : Be aware that using the quit command eliminates the message fromthe spool : directory. If you want to keep the message, use exit instead. : 2. If you're going to unpack the message on your home computer, transfer : the file /tmp/mail home and perform the next three steps on your home : computer. If not, perform the next three steps on the network computer. : 3. Use your favorite command-line text editor (like ed, vi, or emacs) to : edit the file you've saved the message into (/tmp/mail in the example). : First, delete everything before the line that starts with "begin": step 3 is unnecessary unless a line in the header begins with the charecter M, or has the word begin in it. : begin 666 .tar.471.Hey__John.attach : This line tells uudecode both the file name to place the decoded file in : (.tar.471.Hey__John.attach) and the permissions to set on that file once : it's done (666). See the UNIX manual page for ls to learn how permission : bits translate into those numbers. : Change the long file name (.tar.471.Hey__John.attach) to something easier : for uuencode and tar to work with, like mail.tar.Z. Zisthe standard suffix : for a compressed file, and .tar is a conventional suffix for a tape : archive that's been stuffed into a regular file. It would be nice to have an uncompress program which does not care about the file extention .Z, this would elliminate a step. : Save the file and exit the editor. : 4. Use cd to get to /tmp and then use uudecode to extract the compressed : tar file: : earth> ls : console.log mail : earth> uudecode mail : earth> ls : console.log mail mail.tar.Z : Notice that uudecode has created the file you named on the "begin" line: : mail.tar.Z. : 5. Uncompress the archive and extract the mail message and any attachments : (zcat is a version of uncompress that was created for use in a pipeline): : earth> zcat mail.tar.Z | tar xvf - : x index.rtf, 206 bytes, 1 tape blocks : The Rich Text message will always be in a file called index.rtf; you may : have to hunt for any file attachments, because they'll have the same names : as the original files. : 6. If you've been doing your unpacking on the network computer, transfer : the document and any attachments over to your home computer. You may want : to use a file transfer utility such as Kermit or Xmodem, especially if : your modem doesn't provide error correction. : If your home computer isn't running NeXTSTEP, any RTF files can be : examined using a text editor or just by displaying the files from the : command line with cat or more. Because RTF is ASCII-based, it's : surprisingly readable from the command line-there are just a lot of extra : backslashes and numbers to ignore. : Any attached files will only be useful on your home computer if youhave : the corresponding applications, such as WordPerfect, or WriteNow,. If you have word for windows, It will understand and use the rtf format, It will also translate .eps files, and handle wp.files. You can also use it to see tiff files. graphics tools (commercial program for the pc) allows this as well. : Hope this answers your question. thankyou, now if I could only figure out how to kill a few steps. : -- : Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net : DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome. -- Steven Finkelman DATA/Massage slfink@netcom.com
From: mudge@madwand.tiac.net (Mudge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: .WAV files contain movies. Can I play them? Date: 11 Sep 1994 13:57:17 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <34v2bt$o5c@sundog.tiac.net> References: <1994Sep10.171925.6899@rna.nl> In article <1994Sep10.171925.6899@rna.nl> gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes: > Jason Bright writes > > Gerben Wierda (gerben@rna.nl) wrote: > > : I don't know what .WAV files (probably from the MS-Windows world) exactly > > : contain. Is there a way to play them under NS? > > > > WAV's are sound files. Either pick up a copy of GISO.app from the > > archives for converting, or grab Malcolms sound inspector (if he has > > made it publically available....(?) > > > > Thanks, > > additional question: If a MPEG file and a WAV file have the movie and > the accompanying sound, is there a way to combine them? > > -- > gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 > "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" > Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. MPEG has a couple of different sets: system, video, and audio. You should not need to have the accompanying audio in a .WAV file. MPEG I is perfectly capable of including MPEG audio layers (that are generally much higher quality than .WAV files with better compression based upon psychoacustic studies). If you are trying to create content and need to pull the audio track into an MPEG Video stream there are a couple of ways to do it. I don't know of any on the NeXT platform but for the PC there is XINGCD which is a software MPEG I codec (although it employs some rather liberal interpretations of the MPEG standard in certain places), and there are saeveral hardware solutions ($$$$$). The hardware solutions can be found (of course) on UNIX platforms also. If you want more information on this type of subject I recomend checking out the comp.compression newsgroup and checking out the MPEG FAQ. hope this helped, mudge@madwand.tiac.net
From: okidz@ccs.neu.edu (Oki D Zakaria) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machine Date: 11 Sep 1994 15:42:58 GMT Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University. Message-ID: <34v8i2$hlq@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> References: <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> Joe Panico (jpanico@netcom.com) wrote: > My mailbox is on a Sun right now, and my NeXT (intel) is not hooked up > to the net. But sometimes people mail me NeXTMail that I need to import > as NeXTMail into NS. Right now I have to download the mail files into > dos, and then read them into NS from DOS disks. Why do you have to put the files on DOS disks? You can use tip (or other comm. programs) for downloading the files. > What is the recipe for getting the fileformat from Unix mail (or Pine) > into NeXTMail? You can read Unix mail directly (without conversion) on your NS machine; download your mailbox file on your Sun (in /usr/spool/mail/your.Sun.username), and then put it on your NS machine in /usr/spool/mail/your.NS.username. Okidz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machine Message-ID: <1994Sep10.163213.1384@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 16:32:13 GMT In article <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: }~ Hi, }~ }~ My mailbox is on a Sun right now, and my NeXT (intel) is not hooked }~ up }~ to the net. But sometimes people mail me NeXTMail that I need }~ to import as NeXTMail into NS. Right now I have to download the mail }~ files into dos, and then read them into NS from DOS disks. }~ }~ What is the recipe for getting the fileformat from Unix mail (or Pine) }~ into NeXTMail? Joe, My NeXTmail series in NEXT IN LINE addresses this problem, but since you evidently haven't received your subscription yet, I'll post a short answer here. From your description, it would appear that your only good vector between the Sun with it's hot mail account and your NEXTSTEP machine is via a DOS floppy. If you can get other higher level connectivity between the Sun and your NEXTSTEP machine, that would of course be preferable. First, if you need immediate on-Sun access, merely save the message as its own "mailbox" under Pine and load it up in Pico. Change the name on the "begin" line to something usable and delete everything above that line. Run the message through uudecode and the resulting file through one of: zcat (uudecoded output) | tar -xvf -, or gnutar -xvZf (uudecoded output). zcat is identical to uncompress with a -c flag. This will give you an "index.rtf" file that is ugly but readable, and all attachments. NONSTANDARD RECEIVE VECTOR With v3.05 through v3.07 of Pine, I have merely saved any NEXTMAIL messages to a mailbox deliberately created for that purpose. Then archive the entire mailbox (just to conserve what little space may be conserved, and help insure that the content is unchanged) using .zip, tar.Z (.TAZ), gnutar.gz (.TGZ) or .lzh format. Restored with the appropriate utilities (Opener.app enclosed utilities for .lzh and .zip formats, normal NEXTSTEP 3.2 included utilities for the other two formats). Once you've archived them safely, using either rm or Pine itself, delete the mailbox (or use the "move" option of the archiver). Other versions of Pine may also work, but these are the only versions I've tested. I'm presuming that the Sun/Solaris version(s) are identical in function to the identical versions under NEXTSTEP, Ultrix and other *nix flavors. Open NeXT Mail.app on your (lonely) NEXTSTEP box and have no other programs running or scheduled under cron at that moment which may send you E-mail. If that's not possible, I'll specify an alternative in a moment. Move the restored file to your /usr/spool/mail/<loginname> incoming mailbox. Mail.app should unpack the messages directly from there and again delete the incoming mailbox file. If you're unable to insure an idle mailbox, name the file for your login name, and temporarily change your NEXTSTEP incoming "Spool Dir" preference on the Preferences Expert panel to point to the location where the file has been placed, and invoke a new mail check (Command-Shift-N). NONSTANDARD SEND VECTOR To reply via NeXTmail, from Mail.app, requires a method of snatching the outgoing NEXTMAIL message (and avoiding bounces) on your NEXTSTEP machine. I won't go into all of the details here, but the easiest way is to set up a bogus UUCP feed from your stand-alone NEXTSTEP machine, and using the reverse of the above to transport the ready-to-go NeXTmail messages back to the Sun. You should, of course have your Sun account mail address as your Reply-To: in Mail.app preferences, or at least in the Mail.app Options panel. With a little sendmail.cf hacking it is quite possible to avoid the UUCP overhead and merely deposit the individual messages in an outgoing queue, awaiting a shell script which will archive them for the return trip to the Sun. Once on the sun and restored to their in-transit NeXTmail format (which by now you'll surely recognize because of those you've received), they should be fed directly to an MTA program such as sendmail, as if they were being posted from Mail.app or another mail program on the Sun. This could be a bit more difficult if you're using *only* the imap2 daemon on the Sun, as it's command-interface is far from friendly. If sendmail is properly configured on the Sun, you should be able to... sendmail -bt -v < filename where "sendmail" is either in your path, or has the proper path preappended, -bm is the flag that says to force use of standard delivery methods, -v is the flag that tells sendmail to report back to your terminal what it's doing, and "filename" is in subsequent commandlines, the name of the message file. Some sendmail.cf's are set to reject a From address that is unknown. You may have to do a short sed script which replaces the "From: " line in your preformatted NeXTmail messages with your actual Sun account From: line. --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: *.gz extention? Message-ID: <1994Sep10.164427.1443@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <rbzCvovwC.Jrr@netcom.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 16:44:27 GMT In article <rbzCvovwC.Jrr@netcom.com> rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) writes: }~ drkayphd@imap2.asu.edu () writes: }~ }~ >Before my last account expired, I down loaded some files with the }~ > *.gz }~ >extention but, I was not able to extract them. Since I }~ > have been back on the Net, the thought hit me (from another }~ > posting) the the *.gz is the }~ >extention for the GNU tar? Is }~ > this correct? I scanned all my manuals and could not find the }~ > it anywhere. }~ }~ Close...it is the extension for GNU zip (gzip/gunzip). Actually you're both right. When gnutar us used with the "-z" flag, the proper extension would be .tar.gz, .gnutar.gz, (or .tgz in the 8+3 world, and emerging as a standard under Linux). When gnutar is used with the (case sensitive) -Z switch it builds or directly unpacks.... .tar.Z, compressed or .taz files (all of which are aka's for the same format). These latter could also be properly named .gnutar.gz, and perhaps should be so named if they contain a "Mangled name" index. See the standard distribution NeXT Developer makefiles for some quick usages of gnutar that avoid path-length-problems seen at times with Workspace compress, with some versions of Installer.app (or rather packing for it), and for Mail.app's packing. The biggest (tar only) difference between gnutar, and the standard *nix tar in non-tape use, and arguably overall, is the name and path length restrictions. gnutar takes names that won't fit the tar index format and turn them into a stylized "Mangled" name, automatically processing a no-permissions added file which cross-references the original names and those mangled into the tar index format so that gnutar is able to automatically fully restore these long-named or long-pathed files. The second (as you've already seen here) big difference with gnutar is it's built-in gzip/gunzip facility. --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: Dialup connection to NeXTStation Message-ID: <1994Sep10.170300.1505@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <34nae0INN26s@clem.handheld.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 17:03:00 GMT In article <34nae0INN26s@clem.handheld.com> batemand@blitzen.buck.com (fred) writes: }~ }~ I've been trying without success to connect my Hayes Accura 144 }~ modem to our NeXT to allow employees dial-up access from off-site }~ PCs. I believe I have the software configuration just as it should }~ be, but when I try to }~ connect, all I get is a few random characters }~ and then the NeXT hangs up on me. }~ }~ I suspect that the problem is the modem setup. If someone has an }~ Accura 144 modem or a reasonable substitute working with a NeXT, }~ could you please send me the modem setup you used? The way I get }~ it is through Procomm or Telix, use the AT&V command. There are enough differences between the Accura's S-registers and other manufacturers that my modem strings won't do you a lot of good. Check the documentation on the Accura, or fetch a new list from Hayes' BBS. What it sounds like is happening is that you have the modem set to match DTE/DCE speeds instead of using a locked baud rate, which isn't going to work under NEXTSTEP unless a speed is selected that is in common between the modem and the list that getty is able to adjust to *if* getty is set for autobauding, which it normally isn't and really shouldn't be for high-speed compressing (MNP-5/V.42bis/V.34/V.fc, etc) modems. Set your getty to use 38400bps, adding the entry if it's missing from your gettytab for black, and use the Mux8 driver to support 19200, 38400 or 57600bps on white. Make sure that the modem's NVRAM stored settings are set for a locked rate and hardware flow control, and that it is set in /etc/ttys to use the ttydfa or ttydfb device. Unless you really want to play with it, have your users log in at 7-E-1, and use default settings in gettytab. They can switch to 8-n-1 after they achieve their shell. It is *possible* but difficult to get the exact combination and order of parameters in gettytab to present the login prompt at 8-N-1, and /bin/login is hardwired to exit set for 7-E-1, even if getty has passed it along an 8-n-1 login-name for receipt of password. The .cshrc, .tcshrc, .zshrc, or .profile -- or the .login file for the user can switch this back to 8-n-1, and last I checked, ProComm and Telix will both allow changing parity in mid-connect. C-Kermit v5A. generally just strips the high bit, and I have, but haven't checked the latest MS-DOS kermit. BTW, the VT-320 mode of MS-DOS kermit is 100% compatible with the Tek output of Mathematica. It takes some doc reading and configuring to use this feature of Mathematica. --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machine Message-ID: <1994Sep10.173300.1584@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <slfinkCvvr0B.CzG@netcom.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 17:33:00 GMT In article <slfinkCvvr0B.CzG@netcom.com> slfink@netcom.com (Steven Finkelman) writes: }~ I am doing the something along the same lines as you, Recieving }~ NeXTMail on }~ a pc, frequently with sound files, graphic files, }~ rtf, eps. What I have }~ found it that Nextmail files are }~ tarred,compressed, uuencoded and attached to a header. Right }~ now I am using pine as a mail reader. export the message body }~ to another file, uudecode that part, change the resultant name }~ to *.Z then zcat | tar -xvf -. I do this on the server, and }~ download the }~ parts to my pc. }~ Steven, One easier thing (mentioned in my NEXT IN LINE article) is that TAR.EXE for DOS is, like gnutar, able to both uncompress and untar. UUDECODE.COM, UUDECODE.EXE and XXDECODE.COM (as I recall, could be XXDECODE.EXE) are all able to uudecode for you, and xxdecode, allows you to override the odd leading-dot filename on the begin line that NeXTmail standardly uses. --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE contributing author <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PS font to bitmap ? Date: 11 Sep 1994 18:58:33 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <34vk0p$1mo@fermat.mayo.edu> I have a PostScript font on my NEXTSTEP computer and want to make some bitmaps (.bepf files) for better screen display. Any suggestions? --- buckley@mayo.edu "It's hard to be ethnic in the land of seven-jello marshmallow cottage cheese surprise." --Molly Ivins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Questions about NS/Intel installation Message-ID: <CvzI6q.6s9@eskimo.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 21:25:37 GMT Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: : Since it doesn't appear to be possible to netboot a PC into NeXTSTEP : (at least it seems that way from the lack of response), I've decided : to go ahead and put NeXTSTEP onto the PC itself. Hi, Chris. I'm in the process of getting up on my feet with NSFIP. My initial impression with NS is that network support does not appear before, but during, the bootup process. Albeit more complex, I'll bet that there is a way(for the seasoned NextStepper) to assemble a boot strapper that points to a remote drive for the boot process. : Is it still required to disconnect the 5.25" drive? Does it have to be : physically disconnected, or can it be disabled in the BIOS? The "jury" is still out on this subject with my initial experience. I have successfully installed without my 5.25, yet I have successfully booted my system from the CD-ROM in single-user mode with the 5.25 connected. BTW, I'm using AMI's Enterprise IV. I was also able to partially boot from my BusLogic 747S floppy logic FWIW; based on my latest success, there is a good chance that this card can floppy boot completely; all of this under Adaptec 1542B emulation; I plan to try the BusLogic driver soon. : Can NeXTSTEP be placed on the second physical IDE drive, and still be : booted? Is there a boot manager that can boot partitions off of the : second drive, or is it required to make a partition on the primary : drive for all OSs you wish to boot? That's a ways down the road for me, but I read at ftp.next.com that a boot strapper exists to do what you're thinking of. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Dropping DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: Doom LoginPanel.tiff Message-ID: <1994Sep10.213210.1027@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <34q73q$lvj@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 21:32:10 GMT What do you want ? To be know all over the world ? I dont need your LoginPanel, espescially because ive a mono station. So, why do I have to pay for it !!!!!!! Just think about the people that dont bother about you but have to pay for long telephone calls. So please place your invention on a ftp server and everybody will be happy :-p -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FYI;"!';W1H:6-"0D)(96QV971I M8V$[?0I<;6%R9VPQ,C`*7&UA<F=R,3(P"EQP87)D7'1X-3(P7'1X,3`V,%QT M>#$V,#!<='@R,3(P7'1X,C8V,%QT>#,R,#!<='@S-S(P7'1X-#(V,%QT>#0X M,#!<='@U,S(P7&8P7&(P7&DP7'5L;F]N95QF<S(T7&9C,%QC9C`@5VAA="!D M;R!Y;W4@=V%N="`_(%1O(&)E(&MN;W<@86QL(&]V97(@=&AE('=O<FQD(#]< M"@I<<&%R9%QT>#4S,UQT>#$P-C=<='@Q-C`Q7'1X,C$S-5QT>#(V-CA<='@S M,C`R7'1X,S<S-EQT>#0R-S!<='@T.#`S7'1X-3,S-UQF8S!<8V8P(%P*22!D M;VZ@J70@;F5E9"!Y;W5R($QO9VEN4&%N96PL(&5S<&5S8VEA;&QY(&)E8V%U M<V4@::"I=F4@82!M;VYO('-T871I;VXN7`I3;RP@=VAY(&1O($D@:&%V92!T M;R!P87D@9F]R(&ET("$A(2$A(2%<"EP*2G5S="!T:&EN:R!A8F]U="!T:&4@ M<&5O<&QE('1H870@9&]NH*ET(&)O=&AE<B!A8F]U="!Y;W4@8G5T(&AA=F4@ M=&\@<&%Y(&9O<B!L;VYG('1E;&5P:&]N92!C86QL<RY<"E-O('!L96%S92!P M;&%C92!Y;W5R(&EN=F5N=&EO;B!O;B!A(&9T<"!S97)V97(@86YD(&5V97)Y =8F]D>2!W:6QL(&)E(&AA<'!Y(#HM<%P*7`H*?0IS ` -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: okidz@ccs.neu.edu (Oki D Zakaria) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machine Date: 12 Sep 1994 00:27:30 GMT Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University. Message-ID: <35079i$k0o@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> References: <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> <1994Sep10.163213.1384@ToTSySSoft.com> Bruce Gingery (bruce@TotSysSoft.com) wrote: > To reply via NeXTmail, from Mail.app, requires a method of snatching > the outgoing NEXTMAIL message (and avoiding bounces) on your NEXTSTEP > machine. I won't go into all of the details here, but the easiest way is > to set up a bogus UUCP feed from your stand-alone NEXTSTEP machine, and > using the reverse of the above to transport the ready-to-go NeXTmail > messages back to the Sun. You should, of course have your Sun account > mail address as your Reply-To: in Mail.app preferences, or at least in > the Mail.app Options panel. I'd say that the easiest way is by sending your NeXTmail to your address. To prevent NeXTmail reading the mailbox file, the New Mail Retrieval in Preferences has to be set to manual. I don't use Pine, so I don't know the command for reading mailbox files. I use Elm (on Sun), and the command is elm -f <NSmailbox>. Sending the email is done by "bounce" command ("b"). Okidz
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help wanted with mono ADB NeXT monitor Message-ID: <1994Sep12.100614.261@tanuki.twics.com> Date: 12 Sep 94 10:06:14 JST Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access] I have a mono ADB black hardware monitor which is just over a year old. It's been behaving OK for most of the time, but I've just noticed that it's starting to show slightly off horizonatal white lines against a dark background (screen saver), which occasionally expand into larger jittery white horizontal streaks moving slightly up and down the tube (sorry, this is quite difficult to describe). Possible causes I have thought of: Prior to this, the monitor was in a potentially electrically noisy environment (on the same circuit as an air-conditioner). However, it's now in a slightly quieter environment (close to a cordless telephone base station and desktop fluroescent lamp), and the problem seems worse if anything. The monitor's been moved by express service two or three times - something may have become misaligned (original packing materials were used all the time for shipping). The air-conditioner had a habit of shedding lumps of crud - although I tried to guard against this dropping into the monitor, it's possible that something fell inside - I haven't removed the black cover yet. Other info: the top of the monitor seems very hot - the NeXT is currently in a warmish (>25C) environment. It may always have been this hot, but maybe not. The screen display is slightly non-horizontal relative to the monitor. This may or may not be relevant. I'm hoping that this is just a case of a ceramic screwdriver and tweaking the right adjustment pots - if anyone knows which ones, or what else I should be doing, I'd be very grateful. Many thanks in advance Hugh Ashton NeXTMail to hugh@furuike.twics.com non-NeXTMail to hugh@twics.com or reply to this newsgroup.
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cs.orst.edu archive down? Date: 12 Sep 1994 03:34:54 GMT Organization: University of Redlands Message-ID: <350i8u$um@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <34spsl$11km@tequesta.gate.net> <34t1l0$fu3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I just got the skinny from root@cs.orst.edu. They are moving the archive to another machine. It is not permanent. BTW, maybe you folks can help me out. Everytime I FTP some stuff, it never works. I use "bin" mode when I FTP, but when I get the stuff down to my machine I get "check sum" errors, and the programs don't work. I'm using /dev/cufa with Kermit and I'm running black hardware. This problem is bugging the crap out of me and I really need some help... Thanks in advance... ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / "String Theory is 21st century Physics that fell accidently into / / into the the 20th century" / / - Edward Witten / / NeXT-Mail Welcome!... uh, as soon as I figure it out :) / / All flames to dev/null / / 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu / /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: rpomeroy@atlantis (Ron Pomeroy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Questions about NS/Intel installation Date: 12 Sep 1994 05:37:50 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Sender: rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu Distribution: usa Message-ID: <350pfe$g9s@news.tamu.edu> References: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> <CvzI6q.6s9@eskimo.com> Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: : Since it doesn't appear to be possible to netboot a PC into NeXTSTEP : (at least it seems that way from the lack of response), I've decided : to go ahead and put NeXTSTEP onto the PC itself. [munch munch] According to the literature distributed at Expo, Netbooting under NSFIP will be supported in NS3.3. Ronald Pomeroy Senior Electrical Engineering Student Texas A&M University rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEED Owner's Man. and Usrs Guide Date: 12 Sep 1994 06:48:03 GMT Organization: University of Redlands Message-ID: <350tj3$2tk@galaxy.ucr.edu> I have recently come into ownwership of a cube and need the Owners guide and User's Guide that comes with the machine. Can anyone help me out? Is there a source for this material? E-mail responses to the address below. Thanks in advance... ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / "String Theory is 21st century Physics that fell accindetly into / / into the the 20th century" / / - Edward Witten / / I AM ROOT HEAR ME ROAR!!! ;-) / / All flames to dev/null / / 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu / /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ak272@freenet.buffalo.edu (Douglas Boyce) Subject: Re: Doom LoginPanel.tiff Message-ID: <Cw09A4.C9@freenet.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: State University of New York At Buffalo, NY (USA) References: <1994Sep10.213210.1027@precipice.fdn.org> <34q73q$lvj@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 07:10:52 GMT I have two questions for the original poster: 1) Why was the tiff image not compressed using the default LZW which would have reduced its size from 400K to 90K. 2) What precedent is there in c.s.n.m that states anything large that someone has should be posted a normal newgroup like this. The proper thing to do is place it one a ftp archive a post a message stating where it is. Is that so hard? -- Doug Boyce WHAT Software, Inc. (NEXTSTEP software developing and computer reselling) ak272@freenet.acsu.buffalo.edu NeXTmail and MIME welcome PGP 2.6 public key available upon request
From: kucerarj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Ryan J Kucera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hardware for HP Date: 7 Sep 1994 20:26:24 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <34l7lg$3ab@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I'm looking to get a color printer for an hp 712 running nextstep. What would work well? I'm not worried about price yet, I just want to know what's out there. Also I need memory. What's a good place to purchase that? Thanks, Ryan Kucera kucerarj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cockx@uia.ac.be (Schani.Cockx) Subject: INFO ON NEXTSTEP NEEDED FOR THESIS Message-ID: <1994Sep12.093841.10520@reks.uia.ac.be> Sender: news@reks.uia.ac.be (USENET News System) Organization: U.I.A. Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 09:38:41 GMT My thesis will be a comparable study between different GUI's, I would really like to include NEXTSTEP in this review. But I cannot find the right information anywhere, so does anybody of you have enoug information about Nextstep or do you know an ftp site or email address where I can obtain information regarding NextStep ... I need quite a lot of information for each gui , like : memorymodel used drivers support network support virtual memory plug & play or something similar network support look & feel any help would be appreciated, please remember that I'm living in Belgium and cannot affor international calls, but email addresses and ftp site can be used ofcourse ... Schani Cockx Univ of AntwerP
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: receiving NeXTMail on non-NeXT machine Date: 12 Sep 1994 13:11:26 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <351k1u$67u@news.tamu.edu> References: <jpanicoCvv6pn.5MI@netcom.com> <1994Sep10.163213.1384@totsyssoft.com> In article <1994Sep10.163213.1384@totsyssoft.com>, Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> wrote: > >NONSTANDARD SEND VECTOR > To reply via NeXTmail, from Mail.app, requires a method of snatching >the outgoing NEXTMAIL message (and avoiding bounces) on your NEXTSTEP >machine. I won't go into all of the details here, but the easiest way is >to set up a bogus UUCP feed from your stand-alone NEXTSTEP machine, and >using the reverse of the above to transport the ready-to-go NeXTmail >messages back to the Sun. You should, of course have your Sun account >mail address as your Reply-To: in Mail.app preferences, or at least in >the Mail.app Options panel. With a little sendmail.cf hacking it is >quite possible to avoid the UUCP overhead and merely deposit the >individual messages in an outgoing queue, awaiting a shell script which >will archive them for the return trip to the Sun. There is another way to do this, if you have a mail reader that allows you to add "user-defined" headers to your outgoing mail messages (I use elm). Deciding which method is easier is left as an exercise for the reader. I set up a special user on my local machine that does not receive mail. You could use yourself for this purpose if you don't expect to be getting any other mail on that machine. When I want to send NeXTmail, I create it normally, but address it to that local user. Then, I copy the /usr/spool/mail/<user> file to my remote system. On the remote system, create a mail message normally, and add the file to the message. At the end of the headers contained in this file you will find one that begins with the words "Next-Attachment:". Copy that line in its entirety, and add it to your message as a "user-defined" header, then send the message normally. (I always edited out the header lines contained in the file I downloaded; I don't know if this is necessary.) When you do it this way, you are letting your NeXT create the uuencoded guts of the mail message as it normally would, then you are sending those guts and adding the header necessary for the recipient's NeXTmail to recognize the message and do the correct thing. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Doom LoginPanel.tiff Date: 12 Sep 1994 13:16:05 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <351kal$6ea@news.tamu.edu> References: <34q73q$lvj@transfer.stratus.com> <1994Sep10.213210.1027@precipice.fdn.org> In article <1994Sep10.213210.1027@precipice.fdn.org>, Hugues RICHARD <neekibo@precipice.fdn.org> wrote: >What do you want ? To be know all over the world ? > >I dont need your LoginPanel, espescially because ive a mono station. >So, why do I have to pay for it !!!!!!! > >-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- > <NewsGrazer .sig deleted> How deliciously ironic. A "don't post that garbage here" flame followed by the exact same type of garbage the flamer is complaining about. Lusty -- So fine she was, so soft, so silky-coated- Her very mew had quality! -Jean de la Fontaine
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Doom LoginPanel.tiff Apology Date: 12 Sep 1994 13:53:15 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <351mgc$7uc@transfer.stratus.com> References: <351kal$6ea@news.tamu.edu> My apologies on the posting. When I was developing the image, I was using compression ... I'm not sure when it got turned off. Should have checked first. All my Doom-lovin' friends around here really liked the image, so I gave it a twirl. Using NewsGrazer to just drop the image in was seductively easy, compared to the effort of FTP-ing it somewhere. Sorry for any inconvienience. -- YOW!!! I am having fun!!! Howard Ship hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com [NeXT Mail OK] `84 GPz 750 "I lurk not, neither do I flame." -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M<9C%< M9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT M>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P M-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R M-%QF8S!<8V8P($UY(&%P;VQO9VEE<R!O;B!T:&4@<&]S=&EN9RX@(%=H96X@ M22!W87,@9&5V96QO<&EN9R!T:&4@:6UA9V4L($D@"EQI('=A<PI<:3`@('5S M:6YG(&-O;7!R97-S:6]N("XN+B!))VT@;F]T('-U<F4@=VAE;B!I="!G;W0@ M='5R;F5D(&]F9BX@(%-H;W5L9"!H879E(&-H96-K960@9FER<W0N("!!;&P@ M;7D@1&]O;2UL;W9I;B<@9G)I96YD<R!A<F]U;F0@:&5R92!R96%L;'D@;&EK M960@=&AE(&EM86=E+"!S;R!)(&=A=F4@:70@82!T=VER;"X@(%5S:6YG($YE M=W-'<F%Z97(@=&\@:G5S="!D<F]P('1H92!I;6%G92!I;B!W87,@<V5D=6-T M:79E;'D@96%S>2P@8V]M<&%R960@=&\@=&AE(&5F9F]R="!O9B!&5%`M:6YG M(&ET('-O;65W:&5R92X@(%-O<G)Y(&9O<B!A;GD@:6YC;VYV:65N:65N8V4N M7`I<"@I<<&%R9%QT>#4R,%QT>#$P-C!<='@Q-C`P7'1X,C$R,%QT>#(V-C!< M='@S,C`P7'1X,S<R,%QT>#0R-C!<='@T.#`P7'1X-3,R,%QF8S!<8V8P("TM M7`I93U<A(2$@($D@86T@:&%V:6YG(&9U;B$A(5P*(%P*2&]W87)D(%-H:7`@ M(&AS:&EP0'-I;FES=&%R+F-A8RYS=')A='5S+F-O;2`@6TYE6%0@36%I;"!/ M2UT@(&`X-"!'4'H@-S4P7`H)(DD@;'5R:R!N;W0L(&YE:71H97(@9&\@22!F +;&%M92XB7`H*?0H@ `
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: INFO ON NEXTSTEP NEEDED FOR THESIS Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 11:03:43 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <YiR6rDm00iV2A2SsQS@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Sep12.093841.10520@reks.uia.ac.be> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Sep-94 INFO ON NEXTSTEP NEEDED FOR.. by Schani.Cockx@uia.ac.be > My thesis will be a comparable study between different GUI's, I would > really like to include NEXTSTEP in this review. But I cannot find the right >information anywhere, so does anybody of you have enoug information about > Nextstep or do you know an ftp site or email address where I can obtain > information regarding NextStep ... Try ftp.next.com. > I need quite a lot of information for each gui , like : > > memorymodel used 32-bit addressing (ie, a 4 GB memory space) per process with 8K paged virtual memory as per other (modern) Unixes. NEXTSTEP uses a variant of the Mach 2.5 kernel developed here at Carnegie Mellon University. > drivers support Well, that's a complex question, since NEXTSTEP works on the orignal (black) hardware, Intel-based hardware, and HP PA-RISC hardware. The driver question varies from platform to platform, but again, check out ftp.next.com. > network support Well, it supports TCP/IP, SPX/IPX (Novell Netware), and third party products offer AppleTalk (Ethertalk?) support as well. > virtual memory See above. > plug & play or something similar NEXTSTEP's been plug & play for me on black and HP hardware; PC hardware is so poorly designed that plug & play isn't a very meaningful concept, but there is no cause-and-effect relationship between the deficiencies of Intel hardware and the presence or lack thereof of p&p under NEXTSTEP. > network support See above. (Deja vu & deja dit.... :-) > look & feel How can anyone describe NEXTSTEP using ASCII characters? You really need to run it for yourself and take a look, but you could go read Byte or some similar magazine and at least what it looks like. Most (competent) reviewers have described NEXTSTEP as having the best GUI of any operating system currently in existance. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all, --------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...." NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Broken Monitor? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:29:45 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <351s5f$fme@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <34lf6m$8og@maple.enet.net> Take your monitor down to any half decent TV repair shop. Explain the problem. You have either a bad capacitor or a bad transformer. Capacitor most likely. It's probably a 1 hour labour + $5 parts type repair that will actually take the guy 7 minutes to do. (In a nut shell there is an electron gun in the back of the tube that spits out a stream of electrons. This beam is scanned horizontally by a pair of charged plates just in front of the gun. If the voltage on the plates isn't big enough then the beam isn't bent through as much of an angle, so the picture is squished in from the sides. Vertical deflection can be done with either another set of plates, or a magnetic coil. Again if there isn't enough current the image will be squashed vertically. Take the slab with you. If you can show the technician the problem, he can tell a lot by details of the image that you would ignore. Best image is one of graph paper. (Fire up Diagram or create, and turn on the grid...) Barry Beal (bdbeal@enet.net) wrote: : I have a monochrome Nextstation. Recently, the monitor has been : having some problems. The entire display is squashed down to less the half : the normal screen size. The top part of the display looks normal except : that it starts about 1/3 of the way down the screen. The rest of the : display is distorted to approx 3 or 4 inches. Needless to say, this makes : using the system a real challenge. One other point of info is that the : mouse works when you can get a clear enough object on the screen to point : to. Has anyone else seen this problem? Any ideas? I assume the monitor is : shot, but would like to know for sure before replacing it. : Thanks for any help! : -------------------- : Barry Beal : bdbeal@enet.net : (602)230-9330 -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cartidges for NeXT Laser Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:33:15 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <351sbr$fme@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <19940905202313.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41018.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <neuss.778947378@budlight> Christian Neuss (neuss@igd.fhg.de) wrote: : Stefan.Boehringer@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) writes: : >I own a NeXT Laser Printer and need a new cartidge soon. Which cartidges : >are compatible with the NeXT Laser Printer? : >Thanks in advanc : As far as I remember, the NeXT Laser Printer is a HPII with some hardware : ripped out and replaced. HP cartridges might fit. : You may want to check out the FAQ. Mine says: : Any HP LaserJet II or III will fit. HPLJ4mSI cartridges do NOT fit. Actually both Next and HP get the basic printer engine from Canon, as does QMS for a lot of their line. Perhaps others too... Look in the yellow pages under computer supplies. Lots of companies sell refurbished cartridges for about 1/2 to 2/3 the price of a new one. The better ones are better than new, and often have more toner in them so they last longer. (I turned on accounting on our printers jsut to find out, We run about 6500-7000 sheets/cartridge. : -- : "I ride tandem with a random.." : Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics : Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany : e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Blackout! Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:44:03 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <351t03$fme@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> I've been running NS at work on 20 machines for years. I now have my own Next at home. Now and then the screen goes black, while I'm away -- normal screen saver behaviour -- But hitting a key or nudging the rodent leaves it black. Even the poweroff key fails, as does the two and three finger salutes. Have to unplug it. So far it's fairly infrequent, and the only thing that may be in common is running Improv -- which I do at home and almost never at work. -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Now where is Doom 1.666 for NEXTSTEP ? Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:24:01 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <3522rh$ppv@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> When I try finger help@idsoftware.com, they tell me that there will be a NEXTSTEP Doom 1.666 as soon as the DOS patch 1.2->1.666 is out. The DOS patch IS out, but where is NXDoom 1.666 ?? ;-) Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr) Subject: Ciusa - where are you ... Message-ID: <1994Sep12.071418.630@mjw.octagon.de> Sender: mane@mjw.octagon.de Organization: Microcomputer-Jobs and Workouts Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 07:14:18 GMT ... I'm still in need for a music-notation program for the NeXT. And our last contact, where we were discussing some points of your Noteability (and I was not very far of buying it!) was on 1 May this year! (The contact person was Gerard Schwarz). Then I only got something about a suspended address ... My need for this program is very urgent in the meantime, for my group is alive again, and the old arrangements are nearly learned, so I have to make new ones!! --- Mandred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de (NeXTmail OK) - mjw@simplework.octagon.de
From: jason@talus.blkbox.com (Jason McNamara) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is the address of Talus? Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:24:41 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3522sp$d0k@blkbox.blkbox.COM> References: <34u3d8$4dn@news.cerf.net> In article <34u3d8$4dn@news.cerf.net> murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) writes: > What is the address of Talus who sells the T100 notebook? > Murshid@unit.edu We are at: Talus Systems (HW) / Talus Imaging (SW) 1304 Langham Creek, Suite 300 Houston, TX 77084 USA Phone: [+1] (713) 578-1434 Fax: [+1] (713) 578-1815 NeXTMail: info@talus.com Please call/write/fax/mail us with any questions or requests. Orders accepted as well. :-) Jason McNamara
From: jason@talus.blkbox.com (Jason McNamara) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is the address of Talus? Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:25:12 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3522to$d18@blkbox.blkbox.COM> References: <34u3d8$4dn@news.cerf.net> In article <34u3d8$4dn@news.cerf.net> murshid@unit.edu (Murshid) writes: > What is the address of Talus who sells the T100 notebook? > Murshid@unit.edu We are at: Talus Systems (HW) / Talus Imaging (SW) 1304 Langham Creek, Suite 300 Houston, TX 77084 USA Phone: [+1] (713) 578-1434 Fax: [+1] (713) 578-1815 NeXTMail: info@talus.com Please call/write/fax/mail us with any questions or requests. Orders accepted as well. :-) Jason McNamara
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) Subject: Re: *.gz extention? Message-ID: <1994Sep12.154216.921@afs.com> Sender: michael@afs.com References: <1994Sep10.164427.1443@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 15:42:16 GMT Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes [snip] >The second (as you've already seen here) big difference with gnutar >is it's built-in gzip/gunzip facility. Speaking of, the compression produced by gnutar -z is not as good as gzip -9. The following will do the better compression, if you need it: gnutar -c -f - inputfiles | gzip -9 >outputFile I have a TickleService to gnucompress/decompress files that I am submitting to Scott Hess. I've been using it in place of NeXT's compression and it works well. Michael
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HP Printer Support -- Internet Address? Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:43:39 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3527gr$1t0@news.mic.ucla.edu> I have problem with the printout of a postscript file output by dvips. Because I run a DPS system (NeXTStep), and my output looks ok under the DPS previewer, I suspect that the fault lies with the LJ4M's postscript interpreter. Is there an Internet mailing address that I can describe my problem to? Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: PS font to bitmap ? In-Reply-To: buckley@mayo.edu's message of 11 Sep 1994 18:58:33 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Sep12120534@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <34vk0p$1mo@fermat.mayo.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 19:05:34 GMT Paul Buckley writes: Paul> I have a PostScript font on my NEXTSTEP computer and want to make some Paul> bitmaps (.bepf files) for better screen display. Any suggestions? Uhm, "give up"? :-) Maybe there's a font editing program that'll do what you want - what you'll need is something that can spit out BDF files. You can then hand these into the program that creates the prebuilt files (prebuilt files (.lepf and .bepf) are actually sets of bitmaps at different point sizes). Se "prebuild" in the Unix man pages. Note that the BDF files that come with X aren't exactly what you want - tthey have some extra garbage in them that the prebuilt building program chokes on. You can edit that stuff out by hand pretty easily, though. Note that no matter the source, you'll most likely have to hand edit them to get what you want. The BDF files and the prebuilt files for Adobe font's aren't hand-tuned (beyond the base 13, that is) - they are just pre-rasterized for performance. Note that as machines get faster, the performance boost coming from prebuilts decreases (I/O time doesn't decrease as fast as rasterization time on faster machines). A 90MHz Pentium should be at about the crossover point (a 150MHz AXP chip is definitely beyond that point.) That is, it's faster to hint, scale, calculate, and rasterize the bitmap of an "A" in memory that it is to seek the disk head and read it in off of disk. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: PS font to bitmap ? In-Reply-To: buckley@mayo.edu's message of 11 Sep 1994 18:58:33 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Sep12121556@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <34vk0p$1mo@fermat.mayo.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 19:15:56 GMT As a followup to my own post... I forgot to mention that the rasterizer in NEXTSTEP's DPS is the latest; if you're getting unreadable results, it's most likely from bad fonts. PD fonts tend to be unhinted - simple "scan jobs" (pun intended, BladeRunner fans :-). An unhinted or poorly hinted font will rasterize badly at low resolutions. Hand-tuned prebuilts can help this, but the amount of work involved is huge if you're starting off from barely readable bitmaps. If the uneven character spacing is what's bugging you, what you want to do instead is to create "screen" AFMs of several point sizes. These screen AFMs have the character width values back calculated from te specific point sizes such that at the specific point size it's targeted for, all the widths are integers. It's the rounding of the current point (in combination with these hidiously huge screen pixels) that cause the ugliness with character positioning. See the Times-Roman.font directory for an example. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Talus NCR chipset SCSI driver Message-ID: <jpanicoCw191t.4II@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 20:03:28 GMT Does anyone out there have any experience with the Talus SCSI drivers? Would anyone characterize the driver as flawless? I am considering using it for a mission critical app. How about the Talus Diamond stealth/viper driver? Any comments appreciated. Thanks. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any fast serial port devices for NeXTStation? Message-ID: <1994Sep13.102851.272@tanuki.twics.com> Date: 13 Sep 94 10:28:51 JST References: <CvsK09.BvG@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access] In article <CvsK09.BvG@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>, georgen@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) writes: > > Are there any port devices for the NeXTStation that can communicate at > speeds of 115,200bps (or higher)? I recently purchased a Supra 288 modem and > would like to go beyond the 38,400bps barrier on the serial ports of my > slab. > > thanx > gn
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is Quix still around? Whats the story? Date: 13 Sep 1994 05:31:57 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <35463t$4rs@spock.dis.cccd.edu> References: <Cvt1Is.IzJ@jura.demon.co.uk> <Cvv6Fo.3t5@moksha.uucp> As I recall, the Daydream Box sells for around $600. I am wondering how their pricing measures up being a special product and all. Do you all think the price will go down since Apple is upgrading their line so quickly? Sure wish one could toggle between NS and the Mac OS. Wonder if it will work with system 7.5? Actually, I really like a listing of new features in the next release. Does anyone know if one will be able to use the serial port (B) for MIDI this time around? maurices
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is EOF? Date: 13 Sep 1994 10:39:28 -0400 Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department Distribution: usa Message-ID: <354dj0$3sf@condor.cs.jhu.edu> What is EOF and how could I get it. From references I've heard, it sounds like a preview of OpenStep components that will be in NS 4.0 ( like Foundation Kit ). Am I close? BTW, I check the FAQ but the most recent one I could find was Feb 1994, is there a newer one? Chris
From: andreas@dworkin.wustl.edu (Andreas D. Bovopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: buying or getting my printer repaired Keywords: printer Message-ID: <89026@dworkin.wustl.edu> Date: 13 Sep 94 15:34:43 GMT Organization: Washington University St. Louis, MO I have a Next black/white printer. After a power outage my printer didn't come back. I remember a couple of weeks back a company offered to exchange old printers with new for 200$. Had anybody saved that information? Also I was told that it might be the power supply. Is there a way for me to repair it by buying the part? Or is there a company that does this type of jobs, economically? Thanks for any information Dr. Andreas D. Bovopoulos Principal Engineer Chipcom Corporation 118 Turnpike Road Southborough, MA 01772-1886 tel:(508) 490-5602 fax:(508) 490-5873 e-mail: abovopou@chipcom.com
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Lost (in?) space! Date: 13 Sep 1994 16:08:59 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <354iqr$qbk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I didn't know quite where to ask this, but this seemed like a reasonable place. I just deleted a bunch of files through the File Viewer's cmd-r. There was about 30M of stuff to be trashed. I only seem to have recovered around 10M of space. What happened was this. I selected all of the files in a directory and hit cmd-r. Then, while it was trashing the stuff, I realized that I really wanted the directory gone as well. So, I cmd-r'ed it before the 'puter had finished destroying the other files. It beeped at me and I told it to stop whichever process came up in the process manager. Don't know what went wrong, but the directory is gone and the files are no longer visible but seem to be taking up some space. Any ideas on how to get the 20M back? Thanks - Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: NSI 3.2 on Dell Dimension XPS? Message-ID: <jpanicoCw2tn8.C8G@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 16:25:56 GMT Is anyone running NSI on a Dell Dimension XPS? If so, could you please post your configuration? Thanks. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cs.orst.edu archive down? Message-ID: <1994Sep13.132640.18376@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 13 Sep 94 13:26:40 EDT References: <34spsl$11km@tequesta.gate.net> <34t1l0$fu3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <350i8u$um@galaxy.ucr.edu> Organization: Univ of Miami IR In article <350i8u$um@galaxy.ucr.edu>, 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) writes: > > I just got the skinny from root@cs.orst.edu. They are moving the > archive to another machine. It is not permanent. But, cs.orst.edu gives a message saying to use ftp.cs.orst.edu. When I try ftp.cs.orst.edu, ftp just hangs - No refused login, no rejection - just nothing. Finger also hangs. I suggest a clear message on cs.orst.edu might help - Like "Changing machines - use ftp.cs.orst.edu in N days" Thomas J. Herbert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: halkin@netcom.com (Hal Kinney) Subject: << Open Contract Position - Objective C NEXT >> agent sfsys Message-ID: <halkinCw2vJM.3AH@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:06:57 GMT Subject: << Programmer NEXT - Bay Area>> Agent sfsys Skills : NEXT Programmer with Objective C Minimum Industry : 2 years Experience (College Projects do "not" qualify). Location : San Francisco Start Date : ASAP Pay Rate : Market Length : 3 months ++ H1 Visa ok ? : NO Comments ; If you are strong with programming in the NEXT environment with Objective C ... FAX/email resume and/or let's talk. -- ~~~~~~~~~~ 20 years of Service and still growing ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ San Francisco Systems, Inc. | Contact: Hal Kinney halkin@netcom.com 110 Sutter St. Suite 701 | Voice: 415.982.3500 San Francisco, Ca. 94104 | FAX: 415.982.6013 (high res. please)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Lost (in?) space! Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 15:43:54 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8iRU3ua00iV886NI1i@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <354iqr$qbk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 13-Sep-94 Lost (in?) space! by Jon Haveman@mgmt.purdue. > Don't know what went wrong, but the directory is gone and the files > are no longer visible but seem to be taking up some space. > > Any ideas on how to get the 20M back? Fsck your drive and the deleted stuff should either be removed or placed in /lost+found. Easiest way to do this is to log out, then do a Cmd-Cmd-~, switch to the monitor (via 'mon') and reboot, but you could do it properly by manually running fsck and rebooting without sync'ing, too. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: cpj1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NextWorld question. Date: 13 Sep 94 13:15:17 -0500 Organization: Mankato State University Message-ID: <1994Sep13.131517.1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> I've been off the net for over a year now, and also let my Nextworld subscription lapse. About a month ago, I sent in card for a subscription, but there was no reply. Have they suspended publication? --------------------------------------/\---------------------------------------- Christopher Patrick Josephes /\/\ Nextstep: I want it! cpj1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu |\/\/| \\// --------------------------------------\/----------------------------------------
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: *.gz extention? Date: 14 Sep 1994 01:59:50 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <355lem$qoe@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <rbzCvovwC.Jrr@netcom.com> <1994Sep10.164427.1443@ToTSySSoft.com> >> files. The second (as you've already seen here) big difference with >> gnutar is it's built-in gzip/gunzip facility. Careful with the term "built-in". gnutar executes gzip but it does not contain gzip. Fortunately the NeXT has gzip, so this isn't a problem. However, it's quite possible on another system to install gnutar and not gzip, and have z not work. mark
From: peter@bert.psyc.upei.ca (Beaker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <355lk3$507@atlas.cs.upei.ca> Control: cancel <355lk3$507@atlas.cs.upei.ca> Date: 14 Sep 1994 02:07:06 GMT Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <355lsa$52e@atlas.cs.upei.ca> cancel <355lk3$507@atlas.cs.upei.ca> -- Peter 'Beaker' Burka / GCS d--- h---- s+ g+ p? au a- w+ v++ C++ UL++++/X+++/ Prince Edward Island \ O++ P+ L+>++ 3 N++ K++ W++/--- M- V-\ po-- Y+ t+ 5- pburka@upei.ca / v b+++ D++ b- e+(*) u--- h* f- r- n- y-@ j++ r-- "If only we were weiner dogs our problems would be all solved"
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cs.orst.edu archive down? Date: 14 Sep 1994 04:08:03 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <355sv3$cir@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <34spsl$11km@tequesta.gate.net> <34t1l0$fu3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <350i8u$um@galaxy.ucr.edu> <1994Sep13.132640.18376@umiami.ir.miami.edu> therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu wrote: : In article <350i8u$um@galaxy.ucr.edu>, 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) writes: : > : > I just got the skinny from root@cs.orst.edu. They are moving the : > archive to another machine. It is not permanent. : But, cs.orst.edu gives a message saying to use ftp.cs.orst.edu. When I : try ftp.cs.orst.edu, ftp just hangs - No refused login, no rejection - : just nothing. I got through today and when I d/l'd a file it was so slow it felt like a 2400baud SLIP line.... and I just called agin and I was rejected because they only allow 10 anonymous FTP accessers at a time... geesh, the budget must be tight in Oregon, eh? Gary -- __________________________________________________________________ gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list __________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: What is EOF? Message-ID: <Cw41FE.68G@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <354dj0$3sf@condor.cs.jhu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 08:11:36 GMT In article <354dj0$3sf@condor.cs.jhu.edu> audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley) writes: > What is EOF and how could I get it. From references I've heard, > it sounds like a preview of OpenStep components that will be in > NS 4.0 ( like Foundation Kit ). Am I close? > > BTW, I check the FAQ but the most recent one I could find was > Feb 1994, is there a newer one? > > Chris It means Enterprise Objects Framework. It does contain a few classes that will appear in NS4 (foundation) and some classes that are only EOF. Basically it's a persistency mechanism for Objective-C but (to my point of view) mainly oriented towards relational databases. it uses a Modeler application and a new version of IB and approx. 20 classes and protocols. The beta package was distributed to all NEXTSTEP Expo conference attendees. It will ship in November and cost 295$ PER USER OR DEVELOPPER. (one reason of the price, I guess, is the fact the Oracle and Sybase client libraries come with it). The same as for the DBKit, to support a given database, you need an adaptor. Sybase and Oracle come with the basic package, others are on the way probably. Hope this helps, Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: Doom LoginPanel.tiff Message-ID: <1994Sep12.214254.542@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <351kal$6ea@news.tamu.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 21:42:54 GMT In article <351kal$6ea@news.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes: > In article <1994Sep10.213210.1027@precipice.fdn.org>, > Hugues RICHARD <neekibo@precipice.fdn.org> wrote: > > > > my flame > > > >-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- > > <NewsGrazer .sig deleted> > > > How deliciously ironic. A "don't post that garbage here" flame > followed by the exact same type of garbage the flamer is complaining > about. Hmm, normally i just post ASCII text... There must have been a problem in my newsgrazer config. I typed this being logged on my second system (NS3.0J) not on my usual system (NS3.2). So I ll have to check and fix the problem in my 3.0J config... please accept my humble apologize. This week, I made only mistakes :-( PS : normally this post is ASCII only, well, I wish ! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de Subject: Re: Doom LoginPanel.tiff Message-ID: <1994Sep13.205351.2946@jazzpair.freinet.de> Sender: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de (marcus rvbsamen) Organization: Ruby's private musicbox References: <34t35p$h59@salyko.cube.net> Distribution: pro audio Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 20:53:51 GMT In article <34t35p$h59@salyko.cube.net> cmarq@salyko.cube.net (Christoph Marquardt) writes: > PLEASE ! Never post any megs here. Not everyone has got a free isdn > link. ;) > > -- > Christoph Marquardt - cmarq@cube.net (NO NeXTmail,please)- finger for more info with a normal Zyxel modem it took me about 6 minutes to poll news including this tiff. I think this is not too expensive and some people - eg. me - don t have any access to ftp... :-( Marcus
From: mauro@rolle.usr.dsi.unimi.it (Mauro de Gregori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Screen Machine II Date: 14 Sep 1994 15:53:54 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Message-ID: <3576ai$f5f@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> I'm using a Screen Machine II board on a PC 486 running NextStep 3.2 Is there someone that use this board and has informations about software running on it? Are there places where i can find software and information about it. Thanks Mauro
Control: cancel <1994Sep14.151817.10059@investor.pgh.pa.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: cmsg cancel <1994Sep14.151817.10059@investor.pgh.pa.us> Message-ID: <1994Sep14.152743.10272@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 15:27:43 GMT References: <1994Sep9.082832.26241@free.fdn.org> <1994Sep14.151817.10059@investor.pgh.pa.us> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader. -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
From: heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: need RIB format description Date: 14 Sep 1994 17:19:57 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <357bbt$j7u@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, for a biophysics project I want to generate some nice ray traced images of (LARGE! 25000 atoms!) molecular assemblies. I have done this before with rayshade on an SGI machine, but this time i want to use RenderMan on my NeXTstation. The picture itself consists of many objects (50000), but it is fairly simple: just spheres and cylinders. I tried MolViewer 0.1-alpha (is there a better version available?), but it does crash on pdb files of that size. Molecule.app does not help me, either. Am I overlooking some public domain app? For the moment I would be content to just write a shell script which produces the .rib files out of my .pdb files, similar to what I have already for ray shade, and then use prman to get me the tiffs. If this works fine I might later on add a GUI and put it into the public domain. However, I could not find any on line description of the RIB format, only pointers to The RenderMan Companion by Steve Upstill, published by Addison-Wesley Since I don't want to shell out $$$ in vain, my question is: is there some description of the RIB format available somewhere for free? I looked at the NextAnswers CDROM and everywhere on my NeXT but could not find anything so far. Any help greatly appreciated (please answer by e-mail) Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________ Phone: +49-89/2394-4565 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 FAX: +49-89/2394-4607 ------------------------------------------------ Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University, Institute for Medical Optics Theoretical Biophysics Group, Room 230
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: What pentiums are you using for NSI 3.2? Message-ID: <jpanicoCw4LAz.5zz@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 15:20:59 GMT Please send me a short description of your model and configuration, and if there are any significant problems with it. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: idddsb@iddss1.iddis.com (Dean Banfield) Subject: Text to Voice? Message-ID: <IDDDSB.94Sep14132032@iddss1.iddis.com> Sender: usenet@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Usenet News) Organization: IDD Information Services Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 17:20:31 GMT Hi, On my NS/FIP 3.1 I'm trying to get a suitable text to voice converter mainly for my grandmother who is beset with bad eyesight and would like to keep up with the news. The idea is to get a clarinet feed for her, and allow her to pipe the articles to a 'reader'. Of course this would also allow her to keep other text articles in some tree structure (recipes, etc) and have them read back to her when necessary. Any suggestions? P.S. I found an app called TheBigMouth on a Jana CD-ROM News distribution and built it on my FIP3.1 but I can't figure out how to feed an article through the parsing engine and then on to the 'talker'. The parsing -> phoneme engine can be invoked from a shell prompt but the 'talker' eludes me. TIA. -Dean -- Dean Banfield IDD/Information Svcs 90 Grove St Ridgefield CT 06877
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: NextWorld question. Message-ID: <Cw4onF.7uo@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <1994Sep13.131517.1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 16:33:14 GMT In article <1994Sep13.131517.1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> cpj1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes: > I've been off the net for over a year now, and also let my Nextworld > subscription lapse. About a month ago, I sent in card for a subscription, but > there was no reply. Have they suspended publication? > > Yes... :-( About 6 months ago. The reason seems that they could not afford the publication due to small volumes if they hadn't the conference that would pay for it... And this year it's NeXT that organized and got the benefit of the expo (reason of the NEXTSTEP expo versus NeXTWorld expo naming). BUT :-) There are (at least ?) two other possibilities : 1. NEXT IN LINE It's a cheeper publication (in terms of look I mean, two colors only, etc...) You can reach them at : nil-subscriptions@abstractsoft.com 2. OpenStep solutions It comes with either the JOOP (Journal of object oriented programming) or Object magasin. you can reach them at : SIGS Publications 212 242-7447 Hope this helps ! Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland
From: dirk@weismann (Michael Lachmann-Tarkhanov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to get images from executables Date: 14 Sep 1994 22:00:29 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <357rpt$blb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I'm trying to build a html page describing various software that is installed on the system - for this it would be nice to use the icons of the software. Some applications have in their .app directory a tiff file which is the icon of the software, but others don't - in them it seems that the icon is inside the executable. Is there a way to get this icon ? Thanks in advance, Michael
From: trimble@sunny.hmco.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: What to Do with an old 030 cube.. Date: 14 Sep 1994 19:32:25 GMT Organization: Houghton Mifflin Company Sender: root@sunny (0000-Admin(0000)) Distribution: world Message-ID: <357j49$ei4@hmgate.hmco.com> I managed to find an old Businessland (oooh, ahhhh ;) 03 cube sitting around work. I'd like to run DNS on it and have it be out primary nameserver (to take the load off a poor DS2100). My problems and questions are: 1. Can I run DNS/BIND on the cube as a primary? 2. where can I get the DNS source? 3. Does NS3.x support the optical drive? 4. Does anyone have a copy of 3.x or 2.x that they would be willing to sell me? (the stupid thing is running 1.0a right now.) Any help would be appreciated. Please e-mail me, since I do not read this newsgroup (though I may soon!!) -Erik trimble@hmco.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fender@netcom.com (Nemtrovski) Subject: ISDN and NeXT today Message-ID: <fenderCw514G.L9z@netcom.com> Summary: Where is NeXTSTEP & ISDN today? Keywords: ISDN NeXT Hayes Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 21:02:39 GMT PacBell is now offering very affordable ISDN to California residents. I recently received a forwarded news post from BaNG regarding the low rates and reliability as specified by PacBell in their press contact. In 3.0 of NeXTSTEP OS, the ISDNkit was a composnent that could be taken advantage of with the use of a relatively inexpensive Hayes adapter, which cost approx. $250, whch, at the time was available thru NeXTConnection (which no longer exists, really). Now, you can still obtain the adapeter or the quasi-modem, which functions without use of the ISDNkit, which is approx. $500. What I am interestid in finding out is: Has anyone, in the state of California, taken it upon themselves to take the ISDNkit and take it to the current level of NeXTSTEP OS? Has anyone had success with either the adapter or quasi-modem from Hayes-or any other thrid-party vendor who is marketing to the NeXT community? Has anyone within the NeXT community successfully launched an ISDN account with PacBell within the last month or have been re-integrated into the current offer of PacBell; experienced ISDN users? I considering the value of 56K transmission, particularly with the birth of WWW on such a global level, I think that the issue should be addressed enmass. Finally, in reviewing the WWW, ISDN and Mosaic newsgroups, there is very little discussion on the part of NeXT users who, considering they were some of the main supporters of these technologies, should be at the fore-front in order to revive the usefulness of the ISDNkit. James Nemerovski fender@netcom.com
From: heinz@the-wire.com (Heinz Schaffner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Want Latest version of Nextsep for NeXTstation Date: 14 Sep 1994 23:34:46 GMT Organization: My Home Message-ID: <3581am$icf@psyche.the-wire.com> I am looking for a copy of the latest version of NeXTstep for the NeXTstation. I have a CDROM so CD format is no problem. I currently am running 2.0 Also, is the last version of the OS an utilities back compatible. I am running versions of WordPerfect and Framemaker that I hope will run with the lastest version of the OS. Are the NeXT vendors in Toronto Canada? Please reply by mail to: Heinz@the-wire.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: Re: cs.orst.edu archive down? Message-ID: <1994Sep14.154539.3853@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger References: <1994Sep13.132640.18376@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 15:45:39 GMT > When I > try ftp.cs.orst.edu, ftp just hangs - No refused login, no rejection - > just nothing. The same for me, but a couple of hours later it worked. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hill@salab1.psych.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: Text to Voice? Message-ID: <Sep15.052739.18547@acs.ucalgary.ca> Sender: david hill Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 05:27:39 GMT References: <IDDDSB.94Sep14132032@iddss1.iddis.com> Organization: U of Calgary Keywords: text-to-speech, nsi In article <IDDDSB.94Sep14132032@iddss1.iddis.com>, Dean Banfield <idddsb@iddss1.iddis.com> wrote: >Hi, > >On my NS/FIP 3.1 I'm trying to get a suitable text to voice converter >mainly for my grandmother who is beset with bad eyesight and would like >to keep up with the news. The idea is to get a clarinet feed for her, and >allow her to pipe the articles to a 'reader'. Of course this would also >allow her to keep other text articles in some tree structure (recipes, etc) >and have them read back to her when necessary. Any suggestions? > >P.S. I found an app called TheBigMouth on a Jana CD-ROM News distribution >and built it on my FIP3.1 but I can't figure out how to feed an article >through the parsing engine and then on to the 'talker'. The parsing -> >phoneme engine can be invoked from a shell prompt but the 'talker' eludes me. > >TIA. > >-Dean >-- >Dean Banfield IDD/Information Svcs > 90 Grove St > Ridgefield CT 06877 A Calgary company plans to introduce a sophisticated text-to-speech system for NSFIP towards the end of this year. A developer version will be available for incorporating speech in custom programs and the user version has a Services Menu option for speaking files and selections. For more information, contact: Trillium Sound Research Inc. 1500, 112-4th. Ave SW CALGARY AB T2P 0H3 Canada Ph: 403-284-9278 Fx: 403-282-6778 david --------- -- David R. Hill, CS Dept., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315| important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fx: 403-282-6778| (Albert Einstein) NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred)
From: pluther@cs.pdx.edu (Pat Luther) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for NeXTStep 2.1 Date: 15 Sep 1994 00:07:35 -0700 Message-ID: <358rrn$dsu@xavier.cs.pdx.edu> I have NeXTStep 2.0, and a working optical drive. However, to run a couple of my apps, I apparently need 2.1. It is not available through NeXT, though they say that since I have 2.0 I can legally copy it from somebody else. Problem is, of course, I don't know anybody else who owns a NeXT..... So, is anyone out there (preferably in or near Portland, Oregond) willing to help me out and copy 2.1 onto an optical for me (I supply the optical disk, of course!) Thanks in Advance, ??pat -- Pat Luther: Lex's Evil Twin pluther@cs.pdx.edu [A hollow voice says "pluther"] "I think we should leave now. I don't think he knows anything about the boy. Besides....he's got a shotgun pointed at us."
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cs.orst.edu archive down? Date: 15 Sep 1994 02:50:25 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <358cph$sld@news.onramp.net> References: <34tnfq$2mn@anshar.shadow.net> In article <34tnfq$2mn@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: > Robert Wilson (rwilson@gate.net) wrote: > : Anonymous ftp to cs.orst.edu works but the /pub/next directory is devoid > : of any software. > > : I hope this is not permanent... > > : Any thoughts? > > cs.orst.edu has been moved to ftp.cs.orst.edu, but no files as of yet. The files are all there, they have been moved out of the /pub directory to the /software/NeXT directory -- Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Talus NCR chipset SCSI driver Date: 15 Sep 1994 02:52:42 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <358ctq$smn@news.onramp.net> References: <jpanicoCw191t.4II@netcom.com> In article <jpanicoCw191t.4II@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: > > Does anyone out there have any experience with the Talus SCSI drivers? > Would anyone characterize the driver as flawless? I am considering using > it for a mission critical app. > > How about the Talus Diamond stealth/viper driver? > > Any comments appreciated. > Thanks. We have had very good results with the SCSI driver. Currently, we are testing it with a variety of configurations. I will be happy to post the results of the tests if people are interested. -- Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Questions about NS/Intel installation Date: 15 Sep 1994 03:09:04 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <358dsh$t53@news.onramp.net> References: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> In article <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) writes: > What are the currently available SCSI drivers? What brand of SCSI card > must I have in order to install NeXTSTEP from the CD? There are several SCSI drivers available from NeXTanswers at ftp.next.com including drivers for Buslogic, Adaptec, and DPT. Also, a very good driver for the NCR PCI controllers is available from Talus Corporation. The drivers available from NeXTanswers are in .pkg format, so you will not be able to use these drivers to install unless you have access to another machine where you can install the driver and copy the .config file to a new floppy and use that floppy during the installation. This restriction is not present in the Talus drivers. The Talus drivers come on a diskette which can be used during installation. If you are not able to extract the config file from the .pkg file, and you do not want to use the NCR card, you will have to use either the Adaptec 1542 or the DPT 2012 cards (or some compatible) as these are the only drivers included with NS 3.2 > Can NeXTSTEP be placed on the second physical IDE drive, and still be > booted? Is there a boot manager that can boot partitions off of the > second drive, or is it required to make a partition on the primary > drive for all OSs you wish to boot? see document #1487 from NeXTanswers for information on how to do this. -- Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cs.orst.edu archive down? Date: 15 Sep 1994 18:29:55 GMT Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <35a3r3$mi4@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <358cph$sld@news.onramp.net> In article <358cph$sld@news.onramp.net> apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) writes: > In article <34tnfq$2mn@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay > Fuchs) writes: > > Robert Wilson (rwilson@gate.net) wrote: > > : Anonymous ftp to cs.orst.edu works but the /pub/next directory is > devoid > > : of any software. > > > > : I hope this is not permanent... > > > > : Any thoughts? > > > > cs.orst.edu has been moved to ftp.cs.orst.edu, but no files as of yet. > > The files are all there, they have been moved out of the /pub directory to > the /software/NeXT directory > > -- > Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net > DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome. The files are in ftp.cs.orst.edu:pub/next as expected and the ftp site is being moved to a new machine. NW Net, who provides our T1 internet connection, has had problems recently. Wednesday at 10am, the net was down for 10 minutes for some repairs. I don't have the specifics of the repairs. Hopefully things will be more reliable now. There has been an increase in reported problems of ftp timeouts and other network problems between OSU archive sites and the outside world. I would suspect the network is getting saturated at particular times of the day. Rumor has it that we could be getting a T3 line. Wouldn't that be nice. :^) - Tim - -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim F. Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270 Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064 NeXTmail ok!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: idddsb@iddss1.iddis.com (Dean Banfield) Subject: Re: *.gz extention? In-Reply-To: drkayphd@imap2.asu.edu's message of 6 Sep 1994 00:17:36 GMT Message-ID: <IDDDSB.94Sep15173202@iddss1.iddis.com> Sender: usenet@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Usenet News) Organization: IDD Information Services References: <34gcf0$rfi@news.asu.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 21:32:01 GMT In article <34gcf0$rfi@news.asu.edu> drkayphd@imap2.asu.edu () writes: >Hello, First of all, I have been off the Net since my last account >expired, and second my NeXTstep is currently 2200 miles away...Bummer. >Before my last account expired, I down loaded some files with the *.gz >extention but, I was not able to extract them. Since I have been back on >the Net, the thought hit me (from another posting) the the *.gz is the >extention for the GNU tar? Is this correct? I scanned all my manuals and >could not find the it anywhere. The .gz extension for GUNzip/GNUunzip. I just dealt with this last night so here's what happened to me. When I loaded my x.tar.gz file onto the next filesystem, the workspace manager app couldn't figure out what to do with a .gz file and defaulted to the editor app. :-( . I dropped to the terminal environment and ran gunzip against the file and I was in business. I have 3.1/FIP and gzip/gunzip are right there for you, man pages and everything, but the WorkspaceManager couldn't deal by default. BTW, how can one create a new file type and program to invoke so I can get .gz files recognized in the future? How can I modify certain extensions to invoke Emacs instead of Editor? -Dean -- Dean Banfield IDD/Information Svcs 90 Grove St Ridgefield CT 06877
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: *.gz extention? Date: 15 Sep 1994 22:11:13 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <35agq1$jpa@transfer.stratus.com> References: <IDDDSB.94Sep15173202@iddss1.iddis.com> About the .gz extension ... First, Opener.app will provide a pretty icon. However, its a bit klunky, and is overkill for .gz files. Just use a Terminal service (I'm on NS 3.2, I don't know when Terminal services were introduced). Mine looks like: This works fine, except it switches the current application to Terminal. Haven't quite figured out why. Adding a "GNU Zip" would be just as easy. -- Our father who art in heaven.. I sincerely pray that SOMEBODY at this table will PAY for my SHREDDED WHAT and ENGLISH MUFFIN.. and also leave a GENEROUS TIP... 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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: *.gz extention? Date: 15 Sep 1994 23:48:43 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <35amgr$guc@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <35agq1$jpa@transfer.stratus.com> hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) writes: > About the .gz extension ... > > First, Opener.app will provide a pretty icon. However, its a bit > klunky, and is overkill for .gz files. Well, actually, it doesn't seem clunky to me at all... > Just use a Terminal service (I'm on NS 3.2, I don't know when > Terminal services were introduced). Terminal services, on the other hand, seem clunky to me. If I didn't want to use Opener, I'd use TickleServices instead of the services provided by Terminal.app. TickleServices is a very useful shareware application that you can get off the usual NeXTSTEP-related FTP sites. It is very useful, and comes with many useful services already defined. > This works fine, except it switches the current application to > Terminal. Haven't quite figured out why. This, in my mind, is an example of Terminal services being clunky, and it is a problem which TickleServices does not have. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: SUMMARY: What Pentiums are you using? Message-ID: <jpanicoCw7ALs.I3z@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 02:22:40 GMT The only suprise in the group is the Dell XPS, which is NOT certified or listed in the Hardware compatability guide.-- Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------- Compaq Deskpro 5/60M 24Mb RAM 240Mb IDE Q-Vision graphics adapter. - this has the older graphics adapter NXbench reports not very good number for it. - the integrated Compaq Business Audio has occasional problems recording sound and requires twiddling the EISA configuration tto make it work but is OK overall. Dell Dimension XPS P90 32Mb RAM 540 Mb IDE(enhanced) with #9GXE Pro 64 (?) - Need to reconfigure the BIOS for 1024 cylinders, 16 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track. - Need the latest drivers for the #9GXE PCI card from NeXTanswers to use it. - A real screamer and very nice graphics performance - what you expect after the technology has had another year to mature. - These machines got cheaper when we ordered them with the (useless integrated non-SCSI) CD-ROM's. Yoou'll also need to get an add on sound card. We've gotten both the microsoft cards and ProAudio Spectrum 16 and they both work OK remember to get external speakers for them--listening for beeps and other noises on headphones will drive you nuts. DECpc XL 560 24/1000 CD-ROM Adaptec 1540CF ISA Diamond Viper 2 MB PCI Pro Audio Basic16 Phoenix BIOS for Pentium ------------------------------------------------------ Except for sound, problematic on all NS/I PCs, it's flawless. Video a little slow. 50 MIPS. Zenon Z-Optimus II Pentium 90 16/525 Adaptec 1540CF ISA #9GXE64 Pro 2 MB PCI Pro Audio Basic16 Intel Neptune PCI II chipset AMI BIOS 1.00.10 ------------------------------------------------------ Initial problems with crashing Window Server. New BIOS solved problems. Sound problems as with DECpc XL. No other problems. G*ddamn fast video--faster than Wingine, NeXT video. 80 MIPS (wow!). DECpc XL 566, 32 MB RAM, 256k cache Toshiba 4101? CD-ROM Adaptec 1542C SCSI Diamond Viper PCI graphics w/ 2MB VRAM Nanao 550-iw monitor DEC & Fujitsu Disks WangDAT 1300 4mm tape drive System is fast, well built, easy to open, and is very stable (i.e., no freaky crashes). The only gripe is that we can't use the Talus PCI SCSI driver with the WangDAT 1300. Any access to the tape drive with the Talus driver instantly and solidly locks up the machine. The DEC disk drive is really noisy on seeks (louder even than the Fujitsu FH drive) Please summarize via email if possible. thanks! Trey McClendon NeXTMail Accepted TYBRIN Corporation trey@hsv.tybrin.com Fax: 205-837-3472 Voice: 205-837-2027
From: TerryH@ix.netcom.com (Terry Haggin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problems with 3.1 CD Date: 16 Sep 1994 06:25:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <35bdpe$mlq@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Hello, My 3.1 CD has a crack in it and I can't boot my cube. I don't know what I did, possibly threw away something in root but I need to borrow a copy of someones 3.1. I will leave you something for collateral, my $1,800 Becker car stereo so you will be sure to get it back. Please e-mail me as I am writing an article on Walnut Creek's CD_ROM for NeXT and I need a good CD disk of 3.1 to access the CD-ROM. Terry
From: wolfgang@neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Pusch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is the advantage of BSD 4.4 over BSD 4.3 Date: 16 Sep 1994 07:10:17 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <35bgcq$f4d@news.tuwien.ac.at> Does anyone know the advantages (differences) of BSD 4.4 (which is part of NS 3.3) over BSD 4.3? ===================================================== D.I. Wolfgang PUSCH Institut f. Nachrichtentechnik u. Hochfrequenztechnik, Technische Universitaet Wien, A-1040 Wien, Gusshausstrasse 25/389 Austria (Europe) Tel: (+43 1) 58 801 - 3522, FAX: (+43 1) 587 05 83 EMAIL: pusch@email.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman) Subject: Re: How to get images from executables Message-ID: <1994Sep16.072220.9707@netcom.com> Sender: gordie@netcom.com Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works References: <357rpt$blb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 07:22:20 GMT In article <357rpt$blb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> dirk@weismann (Michael Lachmann-Tarkhanov) writes: > I'm trying to build a html page describing various software that is > installed on the system - for this it would be nice to use the icons > of the software. Some applications have in their .app directory a tiff > file which is the icon of the software, but others don't - in them it > seems that the icon is inside the executable. Is there a way to get > this icon ? > > Thanks in advance, > Michael > If it is not a fat Mach-O, you can do (this example is for Terminal.app): % segedit /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -extract __ICON app temp.tiff If it is fat, you have to lipo it first, since segedit can't handle MAB: % lipo /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -thin m68k -output Terminal.temp % segedit Terminal.temp -extract __ICON app temp.tiff -- >>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes! >>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: rz and sz? Date: 16 Sep 1994 18:31:34 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Network Services Message-ID: <35coa6$f2a@pith.uoregon.edu> Where can I find the UNIX commands sz and rz? (ZMODEM send and recieve). I found some on ftp.uu.net but they didn't work for next (wrong architecture) Does anybody know where NeXT for Intel compiled versions are? I would prefer not to have to compile them myself, being a rather neophyte user of Developer. Nick Fogelson (please mail if possible)
From: nwsteel@csupomona.edu (NICK STEEL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Diamond Viper/SB16 and NXI? Date: 16 Sep 94 11:55:05 PST Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona Message-ID: <1994Sep16.115505@clstac> I'm just begnining to get into NSI. I'm running at work on a Dell Omniplex, but at home I'm running a clone system with an adaptec controller, a viper vlb video card, and a soundblaster 16. I'm looking for drivers for the viper and the sb16. Does anyone know if these are available, and if so, where I can get them? -- --- Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. As he is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without have come by their ignorance the hard way. -Bokonon Ciao, Nick Email: nwsteel@vmsa.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) Subject: Re: How to get images from executables Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <Cw8zLz.LF5@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 00:20:23 GMT References: <357rpt$blb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <1994Sep16.072220.9707@netcom.com> Organization: NDSU ACM In article <357rpt$blb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> dirk@weismann (Michael Lachmann-Tarkhanov) writes: > I'm trying to build a html page describing various software that is > installed on the system - for this it would be nice to use the icons > of the software. Some applications have in their .app directory a tiff > file which is the icon of the software, but others don't - in them it > seems that the icon is inside the executable. Is there a way to get > this icon ? I'd just load the icon into the File Viewer of Workspace. Then, I'd use Grab.app to do either multiple or single screen captures. It'll save it as a .tiff which is what you'd have in the first place, so I'm guessing you have some sort of conversion program. Hope this helps! -- Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\ NDSU ACM Chairperson, Manager of NDSU ACM Computer Consultants <acm> "We haven't the money, so we've got to think." -Lord Rutherford \v/
From: "PDAC" <pdac@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: file with .squfold extension Date: 16 Sep 1994 21:30:51 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <87078.pdac@fox.nstn.ca> I am having a problem. I have downloaded the file ModPlayer_V2.5.tar from ftp.cs.orst.edu, and when I untar the file, the result is a file called ModPlayer.app.squfold. Could someone please tell me what this is, and how to dearchive it. Thanks!! Steve MacDougall
From: "PDAC" <pdac@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: file with .squfold extension Date: 16 Sep 1994 21:30:56 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <87174.pdac@fox.nstn.ca> I am having a problem. I have downloaded the file ModPlayer_V2.5.tar from ftp.cs.orst.edu, and when I untar the file, the result is a file called ModPlayer.app.squfold. Could someone please tell me what this is, and how to dearchive it. Thanks!! Steve MacDougall
From: batemand@blitzen.buck.com (fred) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IRC for NeXT Date: 16 Sep 1994 17:32:10 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Message-ID: <35ckqrINN1d8@clem.handheld.com> Hi all, Does anyone know a a NeXT-specific IRC client? If not, how about a good one that will run under NeXTStep? Thanks, Dan Bateman batemand@buck.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: SCSI vs. IDE Message-ID: <jpanicoCw9uqx.4D7@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 11:32:56 GMT One several occasions, in several groups, I have come across a thread concering the performance of SCSI vs. IDE in a multi-tasking environment. Many people claim that if a single task is performing disk access, then enhanced IDE can be as fast, or faster, than SCSI. But that if many tasks are accessing the disk at once, then IDE (even enhanced IDE) will slow to a crawl. This, ostensibly, has something to do with the interrupt architecture and availability of DMA differences between the two bus standards. Has anyone done comparative benchmarking under NSI? How about personal observations? All information appreciated. Thanks. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Talus NCR chipset SCSI driver Date: 17 Sep 1994 07:20:47 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940917212408.4378AACUH.mmalc@hotaru> References: <jpanicoCw191t.4II@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) wrote: > Does anyone out there have any experience with the Talus SCSI drivers? > Would anyone characterize the driver as flawless? I am considering using > it for a mission critical app. > I have the Talus driver on a DEC XL560. As far as I am aware it works fine. To be brutal the machine seems slow compared to NeXTs, but I don't know if this is due to poorly configured hardware (I followed Talus' instructions but...) rather than the driver. The machine is also hamstrung by the Intel EtherExpress card which doubtless slows things, so to be honest I suspect the hardware... Have fun, mmalcolm. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1089 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
From: "D. White" <dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Screen Machine II Date: 17 Sep 1994 14:25:52 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <63956.dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> To: mauro@rolle.usr.dsi.unimi.it On 14 Sep 1994 15:53:54 GMT, Mauro de Gregori <mauro@rolle.usr.dsi.unimi.it> wrote: >I'm using a Screen Machine II board on a PC 486 running NextStep 3.2 >Is there someone that use this board and has informations about software >running on it? >Are there places where i can find software and information about it. > >Thanks Mauro Mauro: The screen machine has several apllications bundled with it. There is also a developer's toolkit which is available which includes an IB palette to design your own applications. You should contact Alembic Systems Intl. at 1-800-452-7608. They can help you find what other software is available and get you the developer's toolkit if you need it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jason@jlc.net (Jason T. Nelson) Subject: Re: IRC for NeXT Message-ID: <CwAHop.M65@jlc.net> Organization: John Leslie Consulting References: <35ckqrINN1d8@clem.handheld.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 19:48:25 GMT In article <35ckqrINN1d8@clem.handheld.com>, fred <batemand@blitzen.buck.com> wrote: >Does anyone know a a NeXT-specific IRC client? If not, how about a good >one that will run under NeXTStep? ircII compiles just fine on our Intel machine running 3.1.. Make sure all the config information is for BSD4.3 though.. >Dan Bateman >batemand@buck.com -Jason T. Nelson <jason@jlc.net> -John Leslie Consulting NeXT mail ok!
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Any users here in Miami? Date: 17 Sep 1994 17:28:07 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <35fn17$bc9@anshar.shadow.net> It seems like I'm the only NeXTSTEP user in these parts. I have tried the phone #s of South Florida NUGs, only to find they've been long since disconnected. Are there any NeXT user groups? Any companies using NeXTSTEP in South Florida? Let me know. Jay Fuchs Jaytron Products Corp. (305) 653-6925
From: Gary Scott <111111.353@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT and PowerPC Date: 17 Sep 1994 22:39:07 GMT Organization: CompuServe Message-ID: <35fr6b$pmr$2@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Has anyone heard if NeXT is going to port to PowerPC? If they do will it work on the new PowerMacs w/ PCI or srictly an IBM machine? Gary
From: tpg@MR.Net (Terry Gliedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cuting power to a NeXTstation monitor Date: 17 Sep 1994 19:00:40 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <8iSqBhNz000100VkdR@mr.net> I have a 3-4 year-old NeXTstation that, until now, I have powered off when I was not using. I may need to keep it up all the time now and I am concerned about the monitor lasting. I am concerned about images burning in (yes, I have a screen saver) and also just the monitor failing after an extended time. I recall reading once about a hardware gizmo that was available to plug between the pizza box and the monitor cable and allowed you to power the monitor off by some sort of switch. (Well, that's how I THINK it worked.) Can anyone point to me where I might find one of these or tell me of alternatives? Thanks for your responses. =================================================================== Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,alt.flame.binaries Subject: Re: Doom LoginPanel.tiff Message-ID: <940917.103940.2o6.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 10:39:40 -0600 References: <34q73q$lvj@transfer.stratus.com> <1994Sep10.213210.1027@precipice.fdn.org> <351kal$6ea@news.tamu.edu> Followup-To: alt.flame.binaries Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada note the Followup-To: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes: >>I dont need your LoginPanel, espescially because ive a mono station. >>So, why do I have to pay for it !!!!!!! >> >>-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- >> <NewsGrazer .sig deleted> > > How deliciously ironic. A "don't post that garbage here" flame > followed by the exact same type of garbage the flamer is complaining > about. except, what, two orders of magnitude less? -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Screen Machine II Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 21:13:13 -0800 Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <nickj-170994211313@port51.annex1.net.ubc.ca> References: <63956.dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> I I would not be to quick to call Alembic if I was you. maybe OpenSource instead...1800 879-6736 Nick
From: nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT and PowerPC Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 21:16:02 -0800 Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <nickj-170994211602@port51.annex1.net.ubc.ca> References: <35fr6b$pmr$2@mhade.production.compuserve.com> In article <35fr6b$pmr$2@mhade.production.compuserve.com>, Gary Scott <111111.353@CompuServe.COM> wrote: > Has anyone heard if NeXT is going to port to PowerPC? If they do > will it work on the new PowerMacs w/ PCI or srictly an IBM machine? > > Gary What ever solaris is using for hardware OpenStep will be bundled with it. I heard you whisper Cray, and yes I guess it means OpenStep will be running on that too... Who really cares how bloated Solaris is going to be, I think Cray has educational prices... smile Nick
From: nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SCSI vs. IDE Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 21:19:22 -0800 Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <nickj-170994211922@port51.annex1.net.ubc.ca> References: <jpanicoCw9uqx.4D7@netcom.com> For Dos and windows sure you won't see a big increase but under NextStep the difference is incredible. I regularly supply ide drives to penny pinchers and they always wish they had gone with a scsi setup... Nick
From: fell@binah.cc.brandeis.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Trouble booting 3.0 from external drive Date: 18 Sep 1994 16:18:40 GMT Organization: Brandeis University Message-ID: <35hp90$daq@news.cs.brandeis.edu> For reasons unknown to me, I can not boot my turbo from my external drive. Things seem to go along as normal until the following messages appear: NX FAX kernel Server Loaded |X> Local_Fax_Modem port in use Sept.18 Sept. 18...Localhost loginwindow[140] loginwindow:could not find WindowServer port! Sept. 18.... localhost windowserver[141]: netinfo timeout, sleeping Then, these lines are essentially repeated until I turn the machine off. Now, I am able to boot from my internal where 2.0 resides. The only thing I have done recently is to load PPP from Morningstar. The problems started when I tried to establish a ppp connection (unsuccessfully). After failing to make the connection, I logged out as usual and then tried to power down. However, after pressing the power key, the whirling disk appeared. There is a chance that I hit the keyboard accidently when powering down but I am not convinced that I pressed any keys. Does anyone have any idea what is going on? Should I just install 3.2 instead of trying to fix this (have to get a cd rom drive first) and if so, can I install the upgrade without booting first? But, it would be nice to know what has happened. Thanks to all can help. The aid is much appreciated. Dick Fell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) Subject: MetaResearch Classes Message-ID: <1994Sep18.163252.10963@agog.com> Sender: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) Organization: Agog, Inc. Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 16:32:52 GMT Posting this for a friend. Does anyone have any experience getting the DataView and DataController classes working under 3.1? For instance just sending record:sender to the DataView class is crashing in strcpy(). These classes come along with the Digital Ears hardware. If you respond directly please respond to tony@wildfire.com. -greg. -- Greg Cockroft greg@wildfire.com Wildfire Communications 617-674-1722
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: How to get images from executables Message-ID: <1994Sep15.202923.7700@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <357rpt$blb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 20:29:23 GMT In comp.sys.next.misc article <357rpt$blb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> you wrote: > I'm trying to build a html page describing various software that is > installed on the system - for this it would be nice to use the icons > of the software. Some applications have in their .app directory a tiff > file which is the icon of the software, but others don't - in them it > seems that the icon is inside the executable. Is there a way to get > this icon ? Yes. Use segedit. As an example: segedit /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail -extract __ICON app mail.tiff Paul PS Your mail address is broken -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Black MIDI Anyone? Date: Sun, 18 Sep 94 16:49:43 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <J43xnTv.jhepp@delphi.com> Is anyone successfully using Black hardware for MIDI? If so, what interface and what app? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanx in advance. JHEPP@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: file with .squfold extension References: <87174.pdac@fox.nstn.ca> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 07:53:37 GMT Message-ID: <1994Sep18.075337.4734@proximus.north.de> In article <87174.pdac@fox.nstn.ca>, PDAC <pdac@fox.nstn.ca> wrote: [...] >ModPlayer.app.squfold. Could someone please tell me what this is, and how >to dearchive it. [...] You need UnSquashOnly, it can be found on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de under /pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/archiver/UnSquash.1.0.N.b.gz It is the format of a commercial archiving app. The dearchiver is for free, however. cu, Gerhard. -- +--< principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP key available on request >--+ N Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Indexing text Date: 18 Sep 1994 16:10:20 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9409182109.AA10465@alleg.EDU> I have several ASCII text files (18 total, .885 MB) which hold the contents to a book for which I need to create an index. I am looking for suggestions on ways I can do this. Time is of the essence, because the publisher wants the index by the end of the month. I have thought of the possibility of using cat and grep to find all the occurrences of a word, but that would be both time consuming and not entirely efficient. If you have any ideas, please let me know. Many thanks, Tim Luoma --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO No Root access, no super-user access
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: .WAV files contain movies. Can I play them? Date: 18 Sep 1994 20:04:08 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940919100835.5154AACUI.mmalc@hotaru> References: <Cvx2y1.p7@cunews.carleton.ca> > WAV's are sound files. Either pick up a copy of GISO.app from the > archives for converting, or grab Malcolms sound inspector (if he has > made it publically available....(?) > Aaaargh! Thank's for the reminder -- I've been swamped here. Somebody found a small bug in the Inspector which I haven't had time to track down... it just meant that part of a WAV file was ignored rather than anything serious, but it's annoying. I've also combined the WAV and AIFF inspectors into one, and added a little more functionality. I hope to have this stuff added to MiscKit as soon as I've tidied it up (alternatively I might donate it and leave it to others to tidy up... <sigh>) Have fun, mmalcolm. Currently at: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs. 2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan Phone: +81-7749-5-1089 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008 #import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
From: ccwf@locke.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: hiwat mark for swapfile Date: 19 Sep 1994 02:51:11 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <35iuav$er1@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <jpanicoCvv6FF.5CD@netcom.com> <CvvJLJ.n1w@prosoft.wimsey.com> In article <CvvJLJ.n1w@prosoft.wimsey.com>, Glen Biagioni <glen@prosoft.com> wrote: >In article <jpanicoCvv6FF.5CD@netcom.com> jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) >writes: >> If hitting the hiwat mark results in a crash, what is the point in >> having a hiwat mark to begin with? >hiwat mark useful when you have multiple swapfiles. Yes. Or when filling the disk with the swapfile is more disastrous than crashing a machine (for example, to prevent a diskless client from crashing a server). -ccwf
From: alec@chaos.mcs.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTLaser Adapter Board for PC's? Date: 19 Sep 1994 03:01:41 GMT Organization: Marquette University - Dept. Math, Statistics, & Comp. Sci. Message-ID: <35iuul$de5@spool.mu.edu> Hello, Many months ago I heard about an adapter board for a PC running NS that would allow one to attach an original NeXT 400 DPI laser printer. Anyone know of any contact/pricing info? Thanks in Advance, Alec Ellsworth alec@chaos.mcs.mu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: INFO ON NEXTSTEP NEEDED FOR THESIS Message-ID: <CwAFzz.J8@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab. References: <YiR6rDm00iV2A2SsQS@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 19:11:59 GMT In article <YiR6rDm00iV2A2SsQS@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > > plug & play or something similar > > NEXTSTEP's been plug & play for me on black and HP hardware; PC hardware > is so poorly designed that plug & play isn't a very meaningful concept, > but there is no cause-and-effect relationship between the deficiencies > of Intel hardware and the presence or lack thereof of p&p under NEXTSTEP. > We prefer to call it plug & pray for PCs. :-) Aloha Tomi -- _________________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome D - 90522 Oberasbach
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Screen Machine II Date: 19 Sep 1994 03:58:35 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <35j29b$j1p@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <nickj-170994211313@port51.annex1.net.ubc.ca> I sent email several days ago to sm@dart.de (as specified in a press release). I haven't received a reply. I was more interested in the Movie Machine Pro package with the CODY compression board. Anyone using this setup? -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: answering machine program: Date: 19 Sep 1994 04:14:37 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <35j37d$3pc@news.tamu.edu> I just bought a ZyXEL modem and am now looking for a answering machine program. I remember seeing a software solution for the ZyXEL model a while back called an* and something. Could anybody tell me where I could find such a program? Thanks, HP (schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu)
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: answering machine program: Date: 19 Sep 1994 04:28:48 GMT Message-ID: <35j420$13mm@tequesta.gate.net> References: <35j37d$3pc@news.tamu.edu> Hanspeter Schaub (schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote: : I just bought a ZyXEL modem and am now looking for a answering machine : program. I remember seeing a software solution for the ZyXEL model a : while back called an* and something. Could anybody tell me where I could : find such a program? : Thanks, : HP (schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu) : The latest version is am 1.16 and is located at ftp site: arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de I forgot which directory... -Rob -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert K. Wilson, Esq. | 19497 Planters Point Drive | NeXT Mail Accepted Boca Raton, FL 33434 | Internet: rwilson@gate.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: tappd@Sam.Neosoft.com (Dan Tapp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NextStep + Windoze Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 00:27:38 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <tappd.13.000075F4@Sam.Neosoft.com> My workplace has need for several employees to run both NextStep and Windows apps on their physical desktops. We've kind of placed all our eggs in the SoftPC basket at this point, but I anticipate significant disappointment, given the manufacturer's constant resetting of ship dates for the next version, as well as the increasing complexity of the Microsoft Office and FoxPro apps we're going to try to run. At some point, we're going to have to kiss standard-mode Windows goodbye, and I don't really have any faith in a software implementation of a pseudo enhanced mode, given the fundamental differences between Windows' use of the CPU and the way NeXTStep drives it. Our other option is to equip each key employee with a second dedicated machine, and to use switchboxes to hook both PCs into a single keyboard/mouse/screen setup. Kind of kludgy, but it may be our only workable backup plan. Trouble is, we have to expand this solution over the next couple of years to nearly 300 desktops, and we haven't really budgeted for 2 PCs per desk! I was wondering if anyone else has run into this need, and what other solutions are floating around for it. It seems like a 486 coprocessor board dedicated to running Windows on a NeXTStep machine would be ideal...is there such a beast? - Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hauser@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Hauser Andreas) Subject: Re: NeXT and PowerPC Message-ID: <1994Sep19.085149.11827@ifi.unizh.ch> Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science References: <35fr6b$pmr$2@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 08:51:49 GMT Gary Scott (111111.353@CompuServe.COM) wrote: : Has anyone heard if NeXT is going to port to PowerPC? If they do : will it work on the new PowerMacs w/ PCI or srictly an IBM machine? As far I know Steve Jobs said that they already have a version of NS written for the 601 but are not sure to release it (yet) because there doesn't exist a broad standard on 601 machines yet. -- HAUSER@avalon.unizh.ch
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: answering machine program: Date: 19 Sep 1994 11:16:41 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <35jrup$pkq@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <35j37d$3pc@news.tamu.edu> <35j420$13mm@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) writes: >Hanspeter Schaub (schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote: >: I just bought a ZyXEL modem and am now looking for a answering machine >: program. I remember seeing a software solution for the ZyXEL model a >: while back called an* and something. Could anybody tell me where I could >: find such a program? >The latest version is am 1.16 and is located at ftp site: >arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de >I forgot which directory... It's: Unix/communication/am.1.16.s.tar.gz Robert. -- Robert Stabl email: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Computer Science Institute Tel: +(49) 89 2180 6316 University of Munich FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310 Leopoldstr. 11B "Wer die Wahrheit nicht weiss, der ist bloss ein D-80802 Muenchen Dummkopf. Aber wer sie weiss und sie eine Luege Germany nennt, der ist ein Verbrecher!" B.Brecht,"Galileo"
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any users here in Miami? Date: 19 Sep 1994 12:24:36 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <35jvu4$3ge@wave.aoml.erl.gov> References: <35fn17$bc9@anshar.shadow.net> In article <35fn17$bc9@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: > > It seems like I'm the only NeXTSTEP user in these parts. I have tried the > phone #s of South Florida NUGs, only to find they've been long since > disconnected. Are there any NeXT user groups? Any companies using > NeXTSTEP in South Florida? Let me know. > > > Jay Fuchs > Jaytron Products Corp. > (305) 653-6925 There IS an active group of NEXTSTEP users in the Miami area. Among them are the NOAA Hurrricane Research Division, U. of Miami (Mathematica Lab) and Fla. International Univ. (Mathematica Lab), a couple of graphic arts companies, and several individual users. The prez. of the users group is Dr. Marshall Gilula, you can email him at mgilula@inca.gate.net. Usually there is a meeting every month or sometimes every other month depending on how busy people are. -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: mikeb@endymion.velocity.com (Michael Barry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: test posting Date: 19 Sep 1994 13:41:59 GMT Organization: Minnesota Regional Network Message-ID: <35k4f7$3uk@cedar.mr.net> this is a test
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Trouble booting 3.0 from external drive Message-ID: <CwDpzK.wD@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <35hp90$daq@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 13:40:31 GMT Might be your local host's netinfo binding changed. This was what had happened in my case - I only found out after having installed SLIP. The thing is to start HostManager.app and set the NetInfo binding of your local host to use local domain only. Maybe you can do that while running from your 2.0? Also, it should be possible to make the changes manually. Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, == when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mail not being deleted from Active.mbox/mbox Date: 19 Sep 1994 12:07:37 -0600 Organization: Keflavik Message-ID: <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com> I store my mail in a number of different mailboxes and often move messages from Active.mbox to, say, Archive.mbox. The problem is that after the message has been moved, it can still be found in the ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox file. I've currently got zero messages in my Active.mbox, but the mbox file itself is over 6MB. I wouldn't mind if there were some sort of "link" pointing back to the old mbox file, but it doesn't seem to work that way. It copies the message into the new mbox, but it leaves a copy in the old mbox, as well. Is it supposed to be this way?
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mail not being deleted from Active.mbox/mbox Date: 19 Sep 1994 19:35:19 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <35kp5n$mii@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Grettir Asmundarson writes > I store my mail in a number of different mailboxes and often move > messages from Active.mbox to, say, Archive.mbox. The problem is that > after the message has been moved, it can still be found in the > ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox file. I've currently got zero messages in > my Active.mbox, but the mbox file itself is over 6MB. > > Is it supposed to be this way? Apparently, you have to "Compact" (cmd-k) your Active.mbox before it actually removes anything - whether you delete it or transfer it. -- Jon Haveman Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 497-3527 (Home)
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mail not being deleted from Active.mbox/mbox Date: 19 Sep 1994 19:14:36 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <35knus$lk@rosie.next.com> References: <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com> In article <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com> grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson) writes: # I store my mail in a number of different mailboxes and often move # messages from Active.mbox to, say, Archive.mbox. The problem is that # after the message has been moved, it can still be found in the # ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox file. I've currently got zero messages # in my Active.mbox, but the mbox file itself is over 6MB. # # I wouldn't mind if there were some sort of "link" pointing back to # the old mbox file, but it doesn't seem to work that way. It copies # the message into the new mbox, but it leaves a copy in the old mbox, # as well. # # Is it supposed to be this way? Try compacting your mailbox. Mailbox->Compact joe
From: vanes002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (John Van Essen) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.games.doom,alt.games.doom.announce,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.games,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: RFD: rec.games.computer.doom.* Followup-To: news.groups Date: 19 Sep 1994 16:11:34 -0400 Organization: umn.edu Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <rec.games.computer.doom-RFD1@maroon.tc.umn.edu> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1st REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) rec.games.computer.doom.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Group Names: rec.games.computer.doom.{announce,help,gameplay, editing,multiplayer,misc} Status: 1 Moderated (announce), 5 Unmoderated Distribution: World Summary: Discussion of the game DOOM and its sequels and add-ons. Replaces alt.games.{doom,doom.announce,doom.newplayers} Proposed By: John Van Essen <vanes002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> With Help From: Contributors in alt.games.doom too numerous to mention. Posted To: news.announce.newgroups comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action news.groups comp.sys.sgi.misc alt.games.doom.announce comp.sys.next.misc alt.games.doom comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.os2.games Proposed Newsgroup Lines: rec.games.computer.doom.announce FAQs/info/reviews about DOOM (Moderated) rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (setup/secrets/etc.) rec.games.computer.doom.gameplay Discussion about levels/techniques/PWADs rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing/hacking DOOM-related files rec.games.computer.doom.multiplayer Tourneys, opponent ads, config questions rec.games.computer.doom.misc General discussion about DOOM and id Software NOTE: The new rec.games.computer and rec.games.computer.doom nodes whose creation is implied here are not newsgroups - no posting intended there. PURPOSE ======= The rec.games.computer.doom hierarchy is for discussing various topics relating to the popular action-oriented computer game DOOM, written by id Software, and its sequels and user-written add-ons. It would also consolidate DOOM-related discussion currently underway in other newsgroups. It is intended for world-wide distribution. This proposal also establishes a new rec.games.computer newsgroup subhierarchy for games that run on general-purpose computers. DISCUSSION ========== The Sep 11 "Top 25 News Groups by number of articles for the last 2 weeks" article in news.lists shows that alt.games.doom currently gets almost 300 articles/day - the 5th-highest posting rate by individuals to a single newsgroup (throwing out the top 3 'newsgroups'): No. of $ Cost % of Cumulative Rank Kbytes Articles per Site Total % of Total Group (Articles/contributor) 1 491023.9 14891 39.30 0.7% 0.7% alt.binaries.pictures.* (4.3) 2 20405.6 7666 20.23 0.4% 1.1% ncar.weather (7666.0) 3 8874.7 5380 14.20 0.3% 1.3% inet (2.0) 4 2982.6 4798 12.66 0.2% 1.6% relcom.commerce.food (6.4) 5 7867.3 4670 12.32 0.2% 1.8% cbd.procurements (1.0) 6 6557.3 4616 12.18 0.2% 2.0% misc.jobs.offered (5.4) 7 8074.9 4531 11.96 0.2% 2.2% rec.games.deckmaster (3.9) 8 4902.9 4071 10.74 0.2% 2.4% alt.games.doom (2.9) An alt.games.doom.announce newsgroup was created after discussion in alt.config, but more splitting is needed for unmoderated topics. Some DOOM-related newsgroups were created without discussion in either alt.games.doom or alt.config and are likely to have poor propagation. Among them are alt.games.doom.newplayers, alt.games.quake, and a few others. DOOM was developed on a NeXT and is being ported to other platforms. Versions exist for the PC (MSDOS/LINUX/QNX), SGI (Irix 5.2), and NeXT, with ports planned or in progress to WINDOWS, OS/2, MAC, JAG, and SEGA. So the potential readership of a DOOM-related newsgroup continues to grow. RATIONALE FOR THE SPLIT ======================= Readers looking for information in specific areas are finding it more and more difficult to sift through the general chatter to find relevant posts. The split allows players to choose topics according to their interests. Someone new to DOOM, for example, might ignore .matches, lurk in .editing, and post to .gameplay. An editor developer might ignore the .gameplay and .multiplayer groups and post to .editing. The split also allows readers who pay for access or who have slow transfer rates to select a subset of the currently undifferentiated articles. This may allow the return of readers who "unsubscribed" due to the high volume. However, if the group is split into too many sub-specialties, it's going to be difficult for someone with wide and varying interests to keep up. There will be no subgroups for binaries. The current alt.binaries.doom newsgroup will suffice. RATIONALE FOR CHOOSING REC.GAMES.COMPUTER.DOOM ============================================== The volume of posting indicates that alt.games.doom is very popular and deserves "promotion" to the Big 7. So in conjunction with the splitting, now is the time to pack up and move. This will better encourage readers to post to the appropriate subgroup than to attempt (and fail) to split alt.games.doom in place. Poorly propagated alt groups won't get used. Many sites don't carry alt groups, so current comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action readers could get more complete DOOM info by reading these Big 7 newsgroups. DOOM is not machine or OS-specific - hence the proposed rec.games location. A possible rec.games.id subhierarchy was discussed, but comments from group-advice strongly advised against a company-based subhierarchy, and recommended the establishment of a rec.games.computer subheirarchy. The interest in computer games (DOOM in particular) is growing, and now is a good time to establish a rec.games.computer subhierarchy to gather together computer-based games. There are no machine or OS requirments - only that the game run on a general-purpose type of computer. The few computer-related games already under rec.games will stay put - they will not affected by the creation of rec.games.computer. CHARTERS ======== rec.games.computer.doom.announce FAQs/info/reviews about DOOM (Moderated) The sort of postings likely to be to be approved by the moderator are general announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of DOOM players. Examples of these types of articles are: - Anything from id Software - New PWAD and LMP announcements - Announcements of new versions of utilities like DEU and DEHACKED - Tourney announcements - FTP site news (downtime, user limits, etc) - FAQs and similarly informative documents - Reviews of user-written PWADs The current moderator of alt.games.doom.announce, Tony Lezard, says that he'd be happy to moderate this newsgroup using the current addresses. Articles would be crossposted to both announce groups for awhile, with the alt group fading out eventually. The addresses are: Submit: doom@mantis.co.uk Contact: doom-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.announce. rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (setup/secrets/etc.) This unmoderated newsgroup is the headquarters of the DOOM Help Service. Readers new to USENET or to DOOM who post questions here will receive a flame-free friendly response from experienced USENETters and DOOM players. Game setup, hardware problems, modem/network setup, secrets, cheats, how to get DOOM and related utilities are a few examples of suitable topics. Questions about modifying/editing levels belong in the .editing group. This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.newplayers. rec.games.computer.doom.gameplay Discussion about levels/techniques/PWADs Discussion about playing DOOM takes place here (not only about playing id's original levels, but also about playing user-written PWADs). Topics include how to find secrets, keyboard/mouse movement techniques, side-effects of playing DOOM, where to find good PWADS (and which ones are favorites), deathmatch experiences, and so forth. PWAD upload notices can be posted here when not posted in .announce. Non-gameplay-related topics belong in the .misc group. rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing/hacking DOOM-related files Discussion here covers modifying the DOOM environment, especially the EXE and WAD files. There are many user-written utilities available that do these types of things. Some authors and experienced users can answer questions about design techniques and using the utilities. Examples of topics are effects of design error (HOM, Medusa), design problems in user-written PWADs, modifying default DOOM behavior, utility enhancements. Questions about playing user-written PWADs (secrets, keys, etc.) should not be posted here - post in .gameplay instead. The doom-editing mailing list (created to escape the noise in a.g.d) perhaps would fold back into this newsgroup or be gatewayed thereto. rec.games.computer.doom.multiplayer Tourneys, opponent ads, config questions Here is where to find info about playing DOOM with multiple players. Readers in search of modem/network multi-player (co-op or deathmatch) partners can look here for ads or post their own. Deathmatch tournament announcements, results, and discussion thereof also go here. Difficult problems with connectivity or configurations can be discussed here, too. rec.games.computer.doom.misc General discussion about DOOM and id Software Here is where discussion occurs about non-play-related issues that aren't suitable (or only marginally so) for the other subgroups. Examples are FTP issues, ports of DOOM to other systems, piracy, "DOOM - the Movie", DOOM II vs. DOOM, what's the best soundcard, DOOM-related ads, comparisons with other games, magazine articles, people at id and their cars, future id plans. In general, if it isn't about actually playing the game, post it here. CROSSPOSTING AMONG REC.GAMES.COMPUTER.DOOM NEWSGROUPS ===================================================== In general, cross-posting among discussion groups is strongly discouraged. Articles posted to .announce can be cross-posted to other relevant groups. CONSEQUENCES FOR ALT.GAMES.DOOM GROUPS ====================================== Once the rec.games groups are created, there'll be massive cross-posting to the existing alt.games.doom newsgroups until the new newsgroups are created on the participating news servers. About a month after the initial newgroups, cross-posting will be discouraged, and reminders will be posted to the following newsgroups directing them elsewhere: alt.games.doom -> rec.games.computer.doom.misc (mostly) alt.games.doom.newplayers -> rec.games.computer.doom.help alt.games.doom.announce -> rec.games.computer.doom.announce After 6 months, an attempt can be made to rmgroup the alt.games.doom hierarchy if no traffic remains. Given the anarchy in alt, there will be news sites that won't honor the rmgroup, so it will never completely go away. Such is life in USENET. EPILOGUE ======== The discussion period lasts at least 21 days from the initial post of this RFD. If there are no major objections to the naming or placement, then the CFV (Call For Votes) will be issued, lasting for 21 days. Following the vote, there is a 5 day discussion period after which newsgroups that passed will be newgrouped by the moderator of news.announce.newgroups. This RFD was discussed for about 10 days in alt.games.doom and many suggestions were incorporated, so many issues have already been addressed. Followups to this post are directed to news.groups, which is where further discussion will take place. Cross-posted followups are discouraged. Please read news.groups to participate.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave Waller) Subject: Re: Mail not being deleted from Active.mbox/mbox Sender: news@cupnews0.cup.hp.com (News Admin) Message-ID: <CwE73E.FEJ@cup.hp.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 19:50:01 GMT References: <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Cupertino, CA In article <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com>, grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson) writes: |> I store my mail in a number of different mailboxes and often move |> messages from Active.mbox to, say, Archive.mbox. The problem is that |> after the message has been moved, it can still be found in the |> ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox file. I've currently got zero messages in |> my Active.mbox, but the mbox file itself is over 6MB. |> |> I wouldn't mind if there were some sort of "link" pointing back to the old |> mbox file, but it doesn't seem to work that way. It copies the message |> into the new mbox, but it leaves a copy in the old mbox, as well. |> |> Is it supposed to be this way? Perhaps you need to compact your Active.mbox (command k)? -- Dave Waller Hewlett-Packard Co. 19055 Pruneridge Ave. Workstation Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-9809 Channel Partner Consulting, West (408|T) 447-4413 dwaller@cup.hp.com
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mail not being deleted from Active.mbox/mbox Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 22:20:33 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <1994Sep19.222033.1243@harka> References: <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Originator: HARKA@nice Grettir Asmundarson (grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com) wrote: > I store my mail in a number of different mailboxes and often move > messages from Active.mbox to, say, Archive.mbox. The problem is that > after the message has been moved, it can still be found in the > ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox file. I've currently got zero messages in > my Active.mbox, but the mbox file itself is over 6MB. You have to explicitly erase old mails by clicking on 'Utilities->Compact' or typing 'cmd-k'. I don't know about moved messages but this works for deleted mails. - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome)
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mail not being deleted from Active.mbox/mbox Date: 19 Sep 1994 23:13:48 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <35l5vc$214@core.symnet.net> References: <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Grettir Asmundarson writes >I've currently got zero messages in > my Active.mbox, but the mbox file itself is over 6MB. Use the "Compact" menu item in Mail.app. Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Screen Machine II Message-ID: <CwC69u.264@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <63956.dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 17:37:05 GMT In article <63956.dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> "D. White" <dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> writes: > You should contact Alembic Systems Intl. at > 1-800-452-7608. They can help you find what other software is > available and get you the developer's toolkit if you need it. These 800 numbers do not work from outside USA! So you should better post a mail or email adresse. Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB mono monitor problem - cured Message-ID: <1994Sep20.163037.356@tanuki.twics.com> Date: 20 Sep 94 16:30:37 JST Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access] Thanks to those who replied about the mono monitor problem I posted earlier. The problem seems to have gone away without my doing anything to it. Maybe is was just the crud from the air-conditioner burning up which did it (now there's a worrying thought!). However, all seems to be OK now.
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel Hardware survey Date: 20 Sep 1994 17:35:29 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <35n6h1$7md@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Most of this survey (99.9%) was copied from the Linux Hardware Compatibility Survey created by Travis Jensen (jensen@peruvian.utah.edu). It is used with his permission. Please e-mail all completed surveys to: gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu without this info from Intel Hardware users, there can't be a FAQ or database for people to use in building an Intel system to run NeXTSTEP. Your help is GREATLY appreciated! A) Desktops: A1) What works? A1-1) Motherboard questions: CPU (Intel, AMD, etc): Model (386, 486, 486DX2, Pentium, etc): Speed of chip (in Mhz): Manufacturer of motherboard: Model number of motherboard: Physical Memory (in megabytes): Bus architecture (ISA, VLB, PCI, etc): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-2) Video card questions: Manufacturer of video card: Model of video card: Chipset of graphics card: Bus interface (PCI, VLB, ISA, etc): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-3) Monitor questions: Manufacturer of monitor: Model of monitor: Size of monitor (in inches or cm's): Max Resolution and refresh rate (x_pix X y_pix @ Hz): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-4) SCSI adapter questions: Manufacturer: Model: Bus interface (PCI, VLB, ISA, etc): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-5) Hard drive questions: For this section, please use the following format for each drive that you have on your system (as many as is necessary) Type (SCSI/SCSI-2/IDE): Manufacturer: Model: Size (in megabytes): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-6) Tape backup questions: Manufacturer: Model: Capacity (in megabytes): Type (IDE, SCSI, parallel port, etc): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-7) CD ROM questions: Manufacturer: Model: Type [IDE/SCSI]: Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-8) Modem/fax questions: Manufacturer: Model: Speed: Compression: Type [Internal/External]: Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-9) Mouse/Trackball Manufacturer: Model: Type (bus, ps2, etc): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-10) Ethernet card questions: Manufacturer: Model: Bus interface (ISA, EISA, etc): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A1-11) What other hardware do you use with NeXTSTEP, and what software is needed to use it (e.g., extra drivers). Give a short description of the hardware on the description line. Description: Manufacturer: Model: Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A2) What doesn't work? A2-1) Hardware that you've tried that doesn't work: Description: Manufacturer: Model: Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: A3) Out-of-the-box systems: (Please list any changes to the purchase configuration, and put them above.) A3-1) Who made it? Manufacturer (vendor): Model: Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: B) Notebooks: B1) What works? B1-1) Who made it? Manufacturer (vendor): Model: Graphics modes possible (resolution/bits per pixel): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: B1-2) Notebook periphials: Note: You can repeat this section as many times as is necessary. Description: Type (PCMCIA, parallel port, internal): Manufacturer: Model: Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: B2-0) What doesn't work? B2-1) Notebooks you couldn't get NeXTSTEP running on: Manufacturer: Model: Comments: B2-2) Periphials you couldn't get working under NeXTSTEP: Description: Manufacturer: Model: Type (PMCIA, parallel port, internal, etc): Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N] Comments: please add any info/setups/etc that you may feel important, like the use of MUX drivers, etc... thank you very much! Gary Lalim -- __________________________________________________________________ gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list __________________________________________________________________
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Request from Intel Users please Date: 20 Sep 1994 17:22:57 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <35n5ph$7md@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I am trying to gather information about Intel systems that people build themselves for a FAQ and database to help people build systems. I have posted a survey once before, and got very few responces. I will post the survey again in a separate message, and I hope you can spend the time to fill it out. everyone who responds will get a copy of the database and FAQ or be pointed to the storage site when the time comes. everyone is encouraged to join my mailing list, whether you have a homebrew system or not... we would love to help you with your questions and hardware needs..... thanks for your support. Gary Lalim -- __________________________________________________________________ gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list __________________________________________________________________
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: To subscribe to the Intel list Date: 20 Sep 1994 17:25:48 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <35n5us$7md@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> email to: maiser@mmg.im.med.umich.edu: message text: subscribe nsfip-homebrew to unsubscribe: unsub nsfip-homebrew please read and keep the into letter for future reference. there are no archives, FAQ, or other stuff yet, we are putting that together now. thank you Gary Lalim -- __________________________________________________________________ gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list __________________________________________________________________
From: rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil (Bob Kurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how to get the filename to print to nextprinter? Date: 20 Sep 1994 19:00:58 GMT Organization: "CARDEROCKDIV CDNSWC" Distribution: world Message-ID: <35nbhaINNs17@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Keywords: printer Hello I hope this is not too basic -- We are running NS3.0 on motorola HW and printing to a nextprinter == is there a way to get the printer to automatically print the name of the file that is being printed onto the same page with the image ( such as a postscript or tiff image ) with Preview? Thanks much Bob Kurhajetz USN CDNSWC Code 3411 Bethesda, MD 20084-5000 NeXTmail is welcome
From: tom@cse.fau.edu (Tom Horton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to fix/replace mono. Megapixel? Date: 20 Sep 1994 22:04:43 GMT Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida. Message-ID: <35nm9r$fsn@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> The display quality for a monochrome Megapixel display from an old NeXT cube has been deteriorating gradually for a few years. We need to get it fixed or replace it. We have carried out the adjustments that were suggested in the "NeXT-Hardware-Peripherals-FAQ" (item M23, originally made by Charles William Swiger), and that improved things some but not enough. Who could fix a monochrome Megapixel display? Has anyone been through this who could guess about the cost? Are there companies that sell new or refurbished monitors that we might want to investigate? Can one use a 3rd party monitor? Back in the summer, I saw posting about replacing capacitors that often go bad on NeXT color displays. Is there something similar that can be done on monochrome displays? Thanks for any help. E-mail responses will be best since our news server has little disk space these days. Tom P.S. I haven't been able to follow news too regularly, and I suspect that this has been covered. Sorry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Thomas B. Horton Department of Computer Science and Engineering Florida Atlantic University Boca Raton, FL 33431 USA Phone: 407/367-2674 FAX: 407/367-2800
From: jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr (JP NOVAK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: #9 (1meg) and DELL OPTIPLEX 466L in 800x600 16bits colors Date: 20 Sep 1994 20:54:37 GMT Organization: Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg (France) Message-ID: <35ni6d$74o@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Hello, Is there anybody with experience of the Number Nine with only 1meg (on a VESA LocalBus), a DELL OPTIPLEX 466L and NEXTSTEP ? Does the #9 allows 16 bit colors in the 800x600 resolution ? Any suggestions of rather cheap cards that allows 16 bit colors in the 800x600 resolution with a DELL OPTIPLEX 466L ? Sorry if the answers are on any FAQs but i need a very fast answer (we had to take a decision tomorrow !) Thanks in advance for any answer or comments. Email : jp@axone.u-strasbg.fr or jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Illegal request; FATAL mesg upon boot Message-ID: <jpanicoCwGFpB.G6x@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 00:51:11 GMT Setup: NSI 3.2 running on DECpc MTE466, DPT 2022 SCSI adapter. SCSI id0 Conner 500MB HD (boot device) SCSI id1 Maxtor 230MB HD All termination/cabling is set up properly. I have installed the new DPT 2012 driver from NeXTanswers. Booting so that I can read the startup messages uncovers something unusual. All messages are normal except this one pertaining to SCSI id1 (the Maxtor). Illegal request; FATAL target: 1 lun: 0 op: Mode Sense This message appears twice in the bootup sequence. Strangely enough, I have not observer ANY faulty behaviour in the operation of SCSI drive 1. Does anyone know what this message means? Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: CryptorBundle-1.1 Bug Message-ID: <1994Sep18.192837.1569@gamelan.sh.sub.de> Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas) Organization: Disorganization Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 19:28:37 GMT If you have installed version 1.1 of CryptorBundle, please correct the following bug (first become root and enter the following commands): chmod -R o+r cryptor.bundle chmod -R o+r encrypt_info.nib Otherwise only selected people would be able to use the bundle .... -- ----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de ----- Q. How many C++ programmers does it take to change a light bulb? A. You're still thinking procedurally. A properly designed light bulb object would inherit a change method from a generic light bulb class, so all you'd have to do is send a light bulb change message.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) Subject: "Black" software sites Message-ID: <CwGpqM.3oM@usa.net> Sender: news@usa.net (News) Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:27:58 GMT I was wondering about good FTP sites that are "chock" full of good old motorola NeXt wares... If anyone has any .....please post away!!! "Bound"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: Talus Wacom Tablet Driver Keystring! Help! Message-ID: <schwettCwGttr.I1w@netcom.com> Summary: need keystring for "free" Talus Wacom Tablet Drivere Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 05:56:15 GMT Hi! I recently grabbed the Talus Wacom Tablet Driver from cs.orst, but unfortunately they did not include a registration key string. I called them, and they were extremeley busy and couldn't get me the number at the time... the driver is free, so if anyone has the number hanging around, I'd really appreciate it! (it's not machine specific, it it???) Thanks! Mark Schwettmann -- schwett@netcom.com, schwett@soda.berkeley.edu, schwett@uclink.berkeley.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vallet@cui.unige.ch (VALLET Didier) Subject: Adaptec 2940 driver Message-ID: <1994Sep21.071245.7187@news.unige.ch> Sender: usenet@news.unige.ch Organization: University of Geneva - CUI Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 07:12:45 GMT I would like to know if there is a driver for the hard disk controller Adaptec 2940 (PCI) Thanks in advance Didier
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vallet@cui.unige.ch (VALLET Didier) Subject: Diamond Stealth 64 Driver Message-ID: <1994Sep21.071551.7251@news.unige.ch> Sender: usenet@news.unige.ch Organization: University of Geneva - CUI Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 07:15:51 GMT I am ready to buy the wonderful Stealth 64 graphic card but I don t know if the beta driver available now is good and stable. Any experiences and comments welcomed ... Thanks Didier
From: mn@insel.unibe.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Clinibase 2000 Date: 21 Sep 1994 11:02:35 GMT Message-ID: <35p3sb$c78@aragorn.unibe.ch> Does anybody knows if the Logibec Groupe Informatique LtY'e 514-766-0134 514-766-9237 Fax claude_roy@logibec.com still exist, any answer welcome. I send mail tow times but did not receive any answer
From: laire@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 64 Driver Date: 21 Sep 1994 17:05:55 +0200 Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany Message-ID: <35pi4j$2pp@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de> References: <1994Sep21.071551.7251@news.unige.ch> vallet@cui.unige.ch (VALLET Didier) writes: >I am ready to buy the wonderful Stealth 64 graphic card but I don t know >if the beta driver available now is good and stable. >Any experiences and comments welcomed ... I had no problems at all...a netfriend uses the VLB version and had also no bad experiences. -- Ralph Schmidt laire@uni-paderborn.de University of Paderborn (Germany)
From: dsinn@chinook.halcyon.com (F. David Sinn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "Black" software sites Date: 21 Sep 1994 15:05:16 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <35pi3c$nar@news.halcyon.com> References: <CwGpqM.3oM@usa.net> Eric Davis (bound@cscns.com) wrote: : I was wondering about good FTP sites that are "chock" full of good old : motorola NeXt wares... ftp.cs.orst.edu sonata.cc.purdue.edu David Sinn dsinn@halcyon.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Message-ID: <mreynoldCwHMIz.K9@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <tappd.13.000075F4@sam.neosoft.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:16:10 GMT In article <tappd.13.000075F4@sam.neosoft.com>, Dan Tapp <tappd@Sam.Neosoft.com> wrote: >My workplace has need for several employees to run both NextStep and Windows >apps on their physical desktops. > >At some point, we're going to have to kiss standard-mode Windows goodbye, and >I don't really have any faith in a software implementation of a pseudo >enhanced mode, given the fundamental differences between Windows' use of the >CPU and the way NeXTStep drives it. [STUFF DELETED] >I was wondering if anyone else has run into this need, and what other >solutions are floating around for it. It seems like a 486 coprocessor >board dedicated to running Windows on a NeXTStep machine would be ideal...is >there such a beast? My group works with SGIs, but on occasion we need to run windoze and ms-dog stuff. Our solution is a dedicated (fast) dos machine running DesqView/X. This is a PC X-windows package that can be set-up to run remote dos and windows sessions. So the result is windows in an x-window. It actually works fairly well. Now, of course NeXT machines don't run X, so you'd need some X package to try this solution. If your interested you can get more info on DV/X in comp.os.msdos.desqview newgroup -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc B. Reynolds W: (510) 814-6384 mreynold@netcom.com H: (510) 814-9385 (No NeXT-mail) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: Host name lookup failure Message-ID: <CwG5HG.7Az@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 21:10:28 GMT I have a recurring problem that I have not been able to explain or correct. I have a 486DX/66 running NS3.2, with ethernet cable going out to a transceiver, then a repeater, then an ethernet modem. The ethernet modem is connected to our LAN system, which is connected to the Internet through a T1 connection. I use another Unix machine in our organization to name serve and normally, operations are fine. Here is the problem. Every so often when I really have the machine loaded with lots of apps running and telneting here and there and ftp'ing in the background, the cursor starts spinning off towards pluto and nothing responds. After several minutes, all the apps I was using to access the net are now no longer accessing anything. When I open a terminal window and try to telnet to any particular site, I get a "host name lookup failure". I then contact the point of contact for the machine that I use to nameserve and have him see if the name server is down, and it's up! Also, at this point, I reboot the machine and everything is fine. I'm at my limit of knowledge on this topic, so if anyone has any helpful information or suggestions they would be much appreciated. Please respond by email to the address below with any suggestions or comments. Thanks. Keith Salmon Aerospace Engineer Hill Air Force Base, Utah salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil NeXTMail preferred
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Interesting NeXT-related Web Servers Date: 21 Sep 1994 19:24:00 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: usa Message-ID: <35q18g$hjo@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Just wanted to point out the very professional and attractive look of Lighthouse Design's Web pages. I have no connection to Lighthouse Design except as a very satisfied customer of their products. To see it point your Web to: http://www.Lighthouse.com/ On another note: There is some very interesting description of collaborative work being done at UofM,SRI and other places. They call themselves: The Upper Atmospheric Research Collaboratory (UARC). They are using NeXTs and Distributed Objects. Take a look at: http://http2.sils.umich.edu/UARC/HomePage.html -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Interesting NeXT-related Web Pages Date: 21 Sep 1994 19:25:30 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: usa Message-ID: <35q1ba$hk2@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Just wanted to point out the very professional and attractive look of Lighthouse Design's Web pages. I have no connection to Lighthouse Design except as a very satisfied customer of their products. To see it point your Web to: http://www.Lighthouse.com/ On another note: There is some very interesting description of collaborative work being done at UofM,SRI and other places. They call themselves: The Upper Atmospheric Research Collaboratory (UARC). They are using NeXTs and Distributed Objects. Take a look at: http://http2.sils.umich.edu/UARC/HomePage.html -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave Waller) Subject: .gz extension Sender: news@cupnews0.cup.hp.com (News Admin) Message-ID: <CwI6H1.Mo2@cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 23:27:01 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Cupertino, CA Hey gang, What do I do with a file that has a .gz extension? Thanks, -- Dave Waller Hewlett-Packard Co. 19055 Pruneridge Ave. Workstation Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-9809 Channel Partner Consulting, West (408|T) 447-4413 dwaller@cup.hp.com
From: d91-mbu@nada.kth.se (Marcus Burckhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: .gz extension Date: 22 Sep 1994 01:02:29 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <35ql35$b9i@news.kth.se> References: <CwI6H1.Mo2@cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <CwI6H1.Mo2@cup.hp.com> dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes: > Hey gang, > > What do I do with a file that has a .gz extension? > > Thanks, > you gunzip it. -- **************************************************************** SWEDEN | Name: Marcus Burckhardt rocks! | E-mail: d91-mbu@nada.kth.se | NeXT-mail: d91-mbu@nextmail.nada.kth.se | WWW: http://www.nada.kth.se/~d91-mbu/ **************************************************************** -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$S-#1<='@R-C@X7'1X-#`S,EQT M>#4S-S9<='@V-S(P7'1X.#`V-%QT>#DT,#A<='@Q,#<U,EQT>#$R,#DV7'1X M,3,T-#!<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,CA<9F,P7&-F,"!);B!A<G1I8VQE M(#Q#=TDV2#$N36\R0&-U<"YH<"YC;VT^(&1W86QL97)`:'!D<W1M82YC=7`N M:'`N8V]M("A$879E(%=A;&QE<BD@=W)I=&5S.EP*/B!(97D@9V%N9RQ<"CX@ M7`H^(%=H870@9&\@22!D;R!W:71H(&$@9FEL92!T:&%T(&AA<R!A("YG>B!E M>'1E;G-I;VX_7`H^(%P*/B!4:&%N:W,L7`H^(%P*7`IY;W4@9W5N>FEP(&ET M+EP*7`I<"BTM7`HJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ7`H@("!35T5$14X@("`@ M?"`@3F%M93H@("`@("`@($UA<F-U<R!"=7)C:VAA<F1T("`@("!<"B`@(')O M8VMS(2`@("!\("!%+6UA:6PZ("`@("`@9#DQ+6UB=4!N861A+FMT:"YS95P* M("`@("`@("`@("`@('P@($YE6%0M;6%I;#H@("!D.3$M;6)U0&YE>'1M86EL M+FYA9&$N:W1H+G-E7`H@("`@("`@("`@("`@?"`@5U=7.B`@("`@("`@(&AT M='`Z+R]W=W<N;F%D82YK=&@N<V4O?F0Y,2UM8G4O7`HJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ M*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ +*BHJ*BHJ7`H*?0HJ `
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: "Black" software sites Date: 22 Sep 1994 01:17:25 GMT Organization: University of Redlands Message-ID: <35qlv5$ggi@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <CwGpqM.3oM@usa.net> <35pi3c$nar@news.halcyon.com> Another good one is: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in the dir :: /pub/comp/platforms/next. Hope this helps... ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / "String Theory is 21st century Physics that fell accidently into / / into the the 20th century" / / - Edward Witten / / I am ROOT, Hear Me Roar!!!! / / All flames to dev/null / / 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu / /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 driver Date: 21 Sep 1994 21:16:13 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <35qlst$mqv@anshar.shadow.net> References: <1994Sep21.071245.7187@news.unige.ch> VALLET Didier (vallet@cui.unige.ch) wrote: : I would like to know if there is a driver for the hard disk : controller Adaptec 2940 (PCI) Talus was supposed to be working on it, but I've been emailing them and haven't gotten a response (info@talus.com). The last time I spoke to them, it was supposed to be two weeks from completion. In the worst case, the 2940 will be supported in NS 3.3.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jason@jlc.net (Jason T. Nelson) Subject: Re: .gz extension Message-ID: <CwIBFJ.8uE@jlc.net> Organization: John Leslie Consulting References: <CwI6H1.Mo2@cup.hp.com> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 01:14:07 GMT In article <CwI6H1.Mo2@cup.hp.com>, Dave Waller <dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com> wrote: >What do I do with a file that has a .gz extension? Well, you could get the latest copy of the source code for GNU unzip from your favourite GNU ftp site :) Compile that, and it will uncompress *.gz files. Jason T. Nelson jason@jlc.net http://www.jlc.net/Local/Jason.html NeXT mail ok!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Illegal request; FATAL mesg upon boot Message-ID: <CwIJss.1tp@eskimo.com> Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <jpanicoCwGFpB.G6x@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 04:14:51 GMT Joe Panico (jpanico@netcom.com) wrote: : Booting so that I can read the startup messages uncovers something : unusual. All messages are normal except this one pertaining to SCSI id1 : (the Maxtor). : Illegal request; FATAL : target: 1 lun: 0 op: Mode Sense : This message appears twice in the bootup sequence. Strangely enough, : I have not observer ANY faulty behaviour in the operation of SCSI drive : 1. : Does anyone know what this message means? I don't know if our troubles are related, Joe. But I have yet to successfully format my drive at ID 0. I'm using a Micropolis 2217 with a BusLogic 747S. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | Dropping DOS for NextStep >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mail not being deleted from Active.mbox/mbox Message-ID: <1994Sep22.173802.371@tanuki.twics.com> Date: 22 Sep 94 17:38:02 JST References: <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com> Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access] In article <35kk19$48u@keflavik.wordperfect.com>, grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson) writes: > I store my mail in a number of different mailboxes and often move > messages from Active.mbox to, say, Archive.mbox. The problem is that > after the message has been moved, it can still be found in the > ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox file. I've currently got zero messages in > my Active.mbox, but the mbox file itself is over 6MB. > > I wouldn't mind if there were some sort of "link" pointing back to the old > mbox file, but it doesn't seem to work that way. It copies the message > into the new mbox, but it leaves a copy in the old mbox, as well. > > Is it supposed to be this way? Are you compacting the mailbox (Command-k) after you move messages?
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Illegal request; FATAL mesg upon boot Date: 22 Sep 1994 14:49:16 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <35s5hc$5m7@news.iastate.edu> References: <jpanicoCwGFpB.G6x@netcom.com> Joe Panico (jpanico@netcom.com) wrote: : Setup: : NSI 3.2 running on DECpc MTE466, DPT 2022 SCSI adapter. : SCSI id0 Conner 500MB HD (boot device) : SCSI id1 Maxtor 230MB HD : All termination/cabling is set up properly. I have installed the new : DPT 2012 driver from NeXTanswers. : Booting so that I can read the startup messages uncovers something : unusual. All messages are normal except this one pertaining to SCSI id1 : (the Maxtor). : Illegal request; FATAL : target: 1 lun: 0 op: Mode Sense It seems like that the controller doesn't understand the message from the harddrive. That's what I've got when my Fast SCSI-2 is connected to SCSI-1 controller. It might be something else though. : This message appears twice in the bootup sequence. Strangely enough, : I have not observer ANY faulty behaviour in the operation of SCSI drive : 1. : Does anyone know what this message means? : Joe Panico : jpanico@netcom.com
From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fax modems here? Date: 22 Sep 94 09:16:55 Organization: Brigham Young University-Math. Dept Distribution: world Message-ID: <SMITHW.94Sep22091655@sofya.hamblin.math.byu.edu> I thought someone posted a short list of black compatible fax modems with prices a while ago, but I seem to have misplaced it. I checked the FAQ and it is not there but I can't remember exactly which group I saw it in now. If someone saved this info and can mail it to me I would be grateful. I have to get this info to a buyer so they can get me one! -Bill -- Bill Smith, BYU mathematics dept. ph. 378-2061, fax 378-3703 email: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu, smithw@math.byu.edu
From: emd_mick@rex.isdn.net (Mickey Lynn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,zer.z-netz.telecom.datex Subject: CASH FOR USED PHONE EQUIPMENT Date: 22 Sep 1994 11:57:19 -0500 Organization: ISDNET Inc. Nashville Tennessee +1-615-377-7672 Music City U.S.A. Message-ID: <35sd1f$b6j@rex.isdn.net> Nashville-based telecommunications company with 400 wholesalers in North America is looking to buy used Northern Telecom, AT&T, Mitel, and Rolm telephone equipment. If you have used or surplus equipment call for an automatic quote returned by FAX. Autoquote: 1-800-260-8830 Voice: 615-885-2123 FAX: 615-885-9454 Email: emd_mick@isdn.net Electronic Market Data, Inc. 1650 Elm Hill Pike Suite 8 Nashville, TN 37210
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Telephone answering program for the NeXT Date: 22 Sep 1994 16:53:19 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <35scpv$bfu@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> What I am looking for is a program that will allow me to answer the phone without leaving the machine. I would like to be able to talk into the microphone and the person on the phone would hear me , and when they talk I would hear them through the speaker. Is there any such animal for the NeXT machine (black hw btw). Thanks, P.S. If not then I am considering writing one if such a thing is possible. -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- The power of UNIX must prevail. The evil Microsoft must be stopped!! -- NeXTStep, the operating system of the future, today. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Some unsolicited praise for SafetyNet Date: 22 Sep 1994 19:28:29 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <35slst$bh4@news.duke.edu> SafetyNet saved our butts last week! On Thursday, both our NeXT server and one of our 1GB external hard drives went kaput. Our theory is that the external drive went bad and took the server with it. We had to reinstall the OS on our NeXT server. The hard drive was the one on which all our /LocalApps reside; we're talking about 850MB of stuff! Thanks to SafetyNet and a brand new disk, I was able to restore all of our /LocalApps from an archive smoothly and without a single hitch. There are of course other backup methods, but in a sudden disaster situation like we had, the easier the restoration method the more mental energy one can save for other aspects of the recovery. Kudos for Brian Cuthie at Systemix for great software! Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: gdd@telerama.lm.com (G. Douglas Davidson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Interested In Next Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 22 Sep 1994 22:59:38 GMT Organization: Not Organized Message-ID: <gdd-220994185805@gdd.slip.lm.com> Hello, I am currently setting up Internet access to a small group of Macs. We are a small BBS. I am somewhat familiar with Unix and would like to get a machine in handle the Name Server, Net News, and Mail. It might also be nice to get something that can act as a Web Server. Finally, I would like something that is really easy to administer. Would a Next fit the bill? Could I get away with 68K based Next? I would prefer not having to play games with Intel hardware configurations and supported chip sets and blah blah blah. I have also heard mention of an ObjectStation. What is this beast? It is Intel based I assume. Does it serve the same functionality as the original Next equiptment (integrate software/hardware)? Appreciate any feedback. G. Douglas
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Intel FTP sites? Date: 22 Sep 1994 20:04:16 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <35so00$5at@crcnis1.unl.edu> Does anybody know where I can grab an exhaustive list of FTP sites for Intel (or source) NextStep software? Does anybody have any good games (other than DOOM) that are out there? -- Jonathan Ham jham@unlinfo.unl.edu %> rm cute.sig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Message-ID: <1994Sep22.115340.27626@cc.usu.edu> From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (mike emmel) Date: 22 Sep 94 11:53:39 MDT References: <mreynoldCwHMIz.K9@netcom.com> In article <mreynoldCwHMIz.K9@netcom.com> writes: > In article <tappd.13.000075F4@sam.neosoft.com>, > Dan Tapp <tappd@Sam.Neosoft.com> wrote: > >My workplace has need for several employees to run both NextStep and Windows > >apps on their physical desktops. > > > >At some point, we're going to have to kiss standard-mode Windows goodbye, and > >I don't really have any faith in a software implementation of a pseudo > >enhanced mode, given the fundamental differences between Windows' use of the > >CPU and the way NeXTStep drives it. > > [STUFF DELETED] > > >I was wondering if anyone else has run into this need, and what other > >solutions are floating around for it. It seems like a 486 coprocessor > >board dedicated to running Windows on a NeXTStep machine would be ideal...is > >there such a beast? > > My group works with SGIs, but on occasion we need to run windoze and ms-dog > stuff. Our solution is a dedicated (fast) dos machine running DesqView/X. > This is a PC X-windows package that can be set-up to run remote dos and > windows sessions. So the result is windows in an x-window. It actually > works fairly well. > > Now, of course NeXT machines don't run X, so you'd need some X package to > try this solution. If your interested you can get more info on DV/X in > comp.os.msdos.desqview newgroup > Is there a NeXT pacakage that letes you run Windows in a NeXT window remotely like NXHost or XHost?? Semmes to me It would be a money maker espcially if it could do X,Mac and Windows.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ob@obh.in-berlin.de (Oliver Brandmueller) Subject: Using the NeXT as an dictation machine? Message-ID: <Q3SSBC7Q@obh.in-berlin.de> Organization: obh - private bbs in Berlin/Germany Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 05:49:33 GMT Hi, I want to use my NeXT as an dictation machine. That means I get *.snd-Files and have to type. The usual SoundPlayers don't help me too much, cause I need rewind (fast forward would be fine but I don't really *need* it). I've tested it with a Demo of Soundworks. It works, but the rewind and ff buttons are "too fast" and the whole software I thin is a lot too big for what I want. Who knows the software I need??? Please help me (quick)! Thank you, Oliver -- | Oliver Brandmueller | Fon/Fax: +49 30 822 99 42 | Data: +49 30 822 15 17 | | Offenbacher Str.1 | Cityruf numerisch: 315 30 68 <area> try 30 and 89 | | 14197 Berlin | "You can say Q to me!" |
From: awt001@acad.drake.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where To Buy Used NeXT Equipment? Date: 23 Sep 94 00:30:17 CST Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa Message-ID: <1994Sep23.003017@acad.drake.edu> Hi, Does anyone know where I can e-mail/call to purchase a 17" NeXT monitor and/or a NeXT ADB-style keyboard? I remember awhile back there was a company out on the net that dealt in used NeXT equipment. (I think they were called "Spherical" or something like that...) Anyone here know if they're still around? (Or where I can get either of the above items?) If so, please e-mail me A.S.A.P. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! A. Tan Drake University Dept. of Computer Science and Mathematics =============================================================================
From: dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Johnston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some unsolicited praise for SafetyNet Date: 23 Sep 1994 12:41:42 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx Distribution: world Message-ID: <35uie6$15d@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <35slst$bh4@news.duke.edu> In article <35slst$bh4@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) writes: > Words of praise for SafetyNet I'll second that. SafetyNet is a wonderful application!!!! -- Dan Johnston
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.softwaremer From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Possible way to get tri Fat contributions Message-ID: <1994Sep23.095334.28645@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France. Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 09:53:34 GMT Since NeXT is obviously not wanting to make it possible to compile tri fat from Motorola or Intel hardware. Here is a possible solution: 1) Get gcc 2.5.8 for the 3 arch from: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/nex tsources/cc-NeXT.2.5.8.NIH.ba.tar.gz 2) Compile trifat all the object and libraries 3) Put the object nibs and makefile on an ftp site 4) A contributing HP owner would just make the link, test and put back the executable. Why doing this way: a) No sources code needed! b) Will put more handy software available to the HP owners! 8^) Cheers Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted) NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant, SYBASE DBA XO, 81 allee Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois France Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Intel-Homebrew list revamped: digest available Date: 23 Sep 1994 16:47:11 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <35v0qg$5k7@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> There have been a lot of problems plagueing the HomeBrew list that has caused some people to unsubscribe (errors being set to the message sender, etc) but now that has all been fixed by changeing the list software and reconfiguring it. The list has moved from mmg.im.med.umich.edu to mmg2.im.med.umich.edu in order to use better list server software. The list now uses majordomo as its list processor. This change was made on 9/23/94. This move should not have affected the subscription list in any way if you are a current subscriber.. As this is a newly configured system, there may be problems. If you encounter any problems *please* let kcheek@umich.edu know as soon as you can. -------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe to the nsfip-homebrew list: send the following as the text of a message to majordomo@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu: subscribe nsfip-homebrew To unsubscribe: send the following as the text of a message to: majordomo@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu: unsubscribe nsfip-homebrew --------------------------------------------------------- There is also a digest version of the list to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the digest list Use the name: nsfip-homebrew-digest instead of nsfip-homebrew To submit messages to the list, send you messages to: nsfip-homebrew@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Do not send subscribe or unsubscribe commands to the list. The list processor tries to detect them and will redirect them to /dev/null. The server will also accept subscribe and unsubscribe commands sent to [listname]-request@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu (replace [listname] with the name of one of the lists). When using these "request" addresses, it is unnecessary to specify the list name on the command line in your message. Monthly archives of the list will be made available via the majordomo system. Archives of the list's previous incarnations will also be made available. Mail sent to either nsi-homebrew@mmg.im.med.umich.edu or nsfip-homebrew@mmg.im.med.umich.edu should be automatically forwarded to the new list address. Finally, now all error messages should come to (kcheek@umich.edu) instead of going to the list or to people who submit messages to the list. (The problem with error messages was the reason for the move.) thanks! Gary -- __________________________________________________________________ gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list __________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: Gilad Ehven <b6933873@mail.wsu.edu> Subject: HELP! Net Browsing by Modem a Pain and a Problem! Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.90.940923081124.1842A-100000@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 16:56:59 GMT Please HELP! I am a frustrated NeXT user who is upset at the apparent lack of utility of my system. Actually, it's my skill that's lacking and not the system, but the end result is the same. Here's my problem: I'm using a NeXTstation Turbo Color at an off campus site. I connect to the university AIX system via a ZyXEL modem, and use my [student] computer account on the school's system to roam the internet and to receive mail. One of the many things I can't figure out (even with the help of campus reps, who bring me close but not all the way), is how to "beam" files such as images, software and text mail from my unix account on campus to the slab on my desktop. Currently, I use my system to instruct the school's AIX system (running PINE) to print text messages to the screen, which I then copy and paste into a word processing file on my desktop -- a time consuming and irritating solution to the problem. Further, I can't figure out how to edit the image files I copy (and hope to eventually "beam" directly to my system), so that these images are viewable on my screen. I have a GIF utility, but I'm not sure what I should do to view Internet loot with it. I've used kermit, but it sends the entire mail folder in a combined file, from which some pieces (or whole messages) are missing, and again -- I don't know how to edit the resultant mess so that I'm left with what's needed to view an image or run a piece of gathered software! Finally, the school's system DOES NOT provide any kind of a SLIP service (and nobody there knows of an available equivalent either). Will I ever get to use my NeXTmail app? Can somebody help me? What would you do if you had a remote NeXT connected to an AIX system via dial-up service, and wanted to collect images, text, and software from the Net? Are there any [affordable] commercial products that can do all these things for me, without sacrificing the NeXT GUI? Please post any information you may have to share about these matters, or better yet, e-mail me at b6933873@mail.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: Re: .gz extension Message-ID: <1994Sep23.193446.15823@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <CwIBFJ.8uE@jlc.net> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 19:34:46 GMT Jason T. Nelson writes > In article <CwI6H1.Mo2@cup.hp.com>, > Dave Waller <dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com> wrote: > >What do I do with a file that has a .gz extension? > > Well, you could get the latest copy of the source code for GNU unzip from > your favourite GNU ftp site :) Compile that, and it will uncompress *.gz > files. > If you're running NEXTSTEP 3.2 then you have gunzip: /usr/bin/gunzip. You may not be able to see the manual page due to an error in the installation (the workaround in your hardcopy release notes is wrong ): If you see a directory /usr/man/man/man1 that contains some gnu manpages then do the following (as root): cd /usr/man mv man/man1/* man1 rm -rf /usr/man/man rm .index.store rm whatis ixbuild -fsv -LEnglish . /usr/lib/makewhatis . -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: kitty@news.gate.net (Kitty) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PROGRAMMERS WANTED Date: 23 Sep 1994 16:23:58 -0400 Message-ID: <35vdgu$16at@tequesta.gate.net> EXPERIENCED NEXTSTEP PROGRAMMERS WANTED for salaried positions in Costa Rica. Job will last from 1 to 1 1/2 years. Pay no US or foreign income tax or social security. Travel expenses paid. You will be programming the initial version of an advanced data management and data integration technology that will revolutionize the data management industry. You may have the opportunity of working in the US with the company that owns the technology after your work in Costa Rica. Enjoy Costa Rica's surfing, beautiful rain forests, scuba diving, white water rafting, and great year around climate. Non-smokers only. Call or fax Gary Sharp at 407-750-0013. No e-mail replies please.
From: kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: hurry!: want to buy or rent a external floppy drive for my cube Date: 23 Sep 1994 04:29:27 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Distribution: all Message-ID: <35tlj7$g53@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I need a external floppy drive for my cube to install NeXT 3.2. If you want to sell your external floppy drive or lend it to me (sure, I am very willing to pay to rent it), please email to "kuocy@ecn.purdue.edu." sincerely, Chun-Yen Kuo
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some unsolicited praise for SafetyNet Date: 23 Sep 1994 19:25:36 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <3602n0$1fu@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <35slst$bh4@news.duke.edu> We totally love SafetyNet here at Omni, too. Saved our skin a few times. -Wil
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some unsolicited praise for SafetyNet Date: 24 Sep 1994 07:49:08 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <360llk$e8u@core.symnet.net> References: <3602n0$1fu@yucca.omnigroup.com> William Shipley writes > We totally love SafetyNet here at Omni, too. Saved our skin a few > times. Hi all, I missed the beggining of this thread - what's SafetyNet and were can I get it? Thanks, Steve
From: suresh@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Suresh Pai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for a kermit rc file (.kermrc) Date: 24 Sep 1994 16:21:39 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Message-ID: <361jmj$bui@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Hi I have a ZyXel U-1496E modem connected to white hardware. I can only connect to univ. machine at 2400 baud rate. At 9600 and 14400 buad rate the connection drops as soon I get connected. Will anyone send thier .kermrc file, just to see what values has to be set? Thanks a lot suresh
From: gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Drivers for Matrox MGA card Date: 24 Sep 1994 16:57:44 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <361lq8$or3@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> I'm getting myself a Pentium-60 with a Matrox Ultima video card. I called NeXT and they don't have any support for that card. Does anyone know if there are any drivers available for NeXTStep 3.2 and the Matrox MGA cards... Thanks -- ******************************************************************************* Gilles Khouzam, McGill University, Montreal, Canada (gel@cs.mcgill.ca) If I ever become so pathetic as to listen to country music, please SHOOT ME!!!
From: jwshin@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Jinwoo Shin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Please help with NeXT(Black) questions Date: 25 Sep 94 00:10:49 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <jwshin.780451849@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> I'm thinking about getting a used NeXT station and have some questions 1) Can someone give me a gause of how fast 25mhz station/mono/32mb RAM say compare to 486/66 16mb running Linux? 2) Can I use HP IIP (no postscript) with NeXTStation? I figure if I somehow connect them together, I could use ghostscript. Possible? 3) Where does one get services for no longer produced NeXT hardware, if it becomes necessary? Thanks in advance. -- Jinwoo Shin jwshin@eecs.berkeley.edu System Administrator Berkeley Sensor and Actuator Center
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) Subject: Cassandra or another PIM Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <Cwny29.F7F@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:10:57 GMT Organization: NDSU ACM I'm looking for a personal information manager (PIM), or more precicely, a personal schedule program. I'd like one that I could use on any UNIX machine, i.e. it uses a text-based interface, but I'll also use one that runs on the NextStep interface. I've found Cassandra 1.5, which uses the NextStep interface, and from what I've tried of it, it pretty much fills the bill. But, I'm wondering if there are any updates to this program, or if anyone can suggest something that might be more to my liking. Keep in mind that I'm a Poor College Student(tm), and won't be able to afford a program that costs >$50. (Heck, for that price, I'll write one myself and sell it!) Can anyone suggest a PIM/schedule program for me? Thanks. -- Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\ NDSU ACM Chairperson, Manager of NDSU ACM Computer Consultants <acm> "We haven't the money, so we've got to think." -Lord Rutherford \v/
From: "D. Todd White" <dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Screen Machine II Date: 25 Sep 1994 01:17:50 -0300 Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca Message-ID: <20914.dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> To: michael@nexus1.oche.de On Sun, 18 Sep 1994 17:37:05 GMT, Michael Pieper <michael@nexus1.oche.de> wrote: >In article <63956.dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> "D. White" <dwhite@fox.nstn.ca> >writes: >> You should contact Alembic Systems Intl. at >> 1-800-452-7608. They can help you find what other software is >> available and get you the developer's toolkit if you need it. > >These 800 numbers do not work from outside USA! So you should better >post a mail or email adresse. > >Bye, Michael >-- >*** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen >*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 >*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome) Sorry Michael, Was in a rush and didn't recognize that you were outside North America. I don't have the phone number, but they can be reached by FAX at : 1-303-799-1435 Again, sorry for the oversight.
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cuting power to a NeXTstation monitor Date: 22 Sep 94 14:55:37 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.780245737@coricopat> References: <8iSqBhNz000100VkdR@mr.net> tpg@MR.Net (Terry Gliedt) writes: [munch] >I recall reading once about a hardware gizmo that was available to plug >between the pizza box and the monitor cable and allowed you to power the >monitor off by some sort of switch. (Well, that's how I THINK it >worked.) >Can anyone point to me where I might find one of these or tell me of >alternatives? Thanks for your responses. The thing *I* read about turned out to be for Intel Hardware only (it would auto-shut off the monitor after a certain time). I don't know if such a beast exists for black HW - even if it's only a mechanical switch, it would be darn usefull. We already had one monitor fail (ADB Turbo Monostation). Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some unsolicited praise for SafetyNet Date: 25 Sep 1994 16:29:23 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <3648h3$bso@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <35uie6$15d@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> In article <35uie6$15d@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Johnston) writes: > In article <35slst$bh4@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley) > writes: > > Words of praise for SafetyNet > > I'll second that. SafetyNet is a wonderful application!!!! > -- > Dan Johnston I'll third that. Great app, I don't think I could have implemented a backup solution myself without SafetyNet. The support from Brian Cuthie is just as excellent as the product. I have asked many questions and the response from him came within a couple of hours every time. You can contact the author at brian@systemix.com --- ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Contract NEXTSTEP device driver programmer opportunity Date: 25 Sep 1994 18:30:17 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: usa Message-ID: <364fjp$atr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I'm not sure where to post "Help Wanted" ads, so pardon me if I've chosen an inappropriate group. I'd like to see all those brave, adventuresome companies who venture into NEXTSTEP be successful, so if I can help by finding them good personnel, then I'll feel some sort of sense of accomplishment. That said, please note that I'm not a recruiter. I'm merely passing on a message I received a couple of days ago. I have no device driver programming experience and don't want to learn :-) This position is described by a recruiter here in Santa Cruz, CA, as being located "mid-Peninsula", which, to me, means somewhere near Redwood City :-) The duration of the contract was not known by the person who contacted me. I'm led to believe that this involves Sun graphics devices. A question I'd have would be whether this is already being done as part of the NEXTSTEP port to SPARC hardware (or maybe this is actually part of the porting effort). Please don't contact me about this opportunity because I don't know anything more than what I've posted. Verbatim from the fax I received: "Contractor #1 would need to be graphics HW/SW knowledgeable as s/he would have the task of porting the SX (and possible, the A24) driver. The SX 24bit graphics device uses SPAM, which is a memory controller which allows the device access to memory. Some knowledge of MMU's and related software would definitely be useful here. The A24 24bit graphics device should not be complex. S/He would also work with NeXT personnel to take advantage of graphics acceleration wherever possible (performance tuning the graphics/window system)." For further info, contact Kristen at Surf Software (gotta love those Santa Cruz company names :-) email: kristen@surfsoft.com voice: (408)429-1811 fax: (408)429-1258 --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: kuocy@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to boot a cube from CD rom drive without a floppy drive Date: 25 Sep 1994 20:40:33 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Distribution: all Message-ID: <364n81$ho2@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I recently destroy the file "dev/rsd0a" so that I need to install a new copy of Next 3.2 to the haed drive. However my system can not boot directly from the CD rom drive even though I chang the boot device to the CD rom drive ( I do bsd(1,0,0)sdmach =sd1 in the rom monitor and the CD rom drive is device 1) According the next answer, it seems I need a floppy drive to boot from the CD r om drive. However, I have no floppy drive at hands and want to install the new os as soon as possibe. My cube has a optical disk. Is there any way that I ca n install the new os except to get a floppy drive ? Actually, I have try followings method: 1. I do /usr/etc/disk -B /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom /dev/rod0a. 2. reboot the system and type bod(0,0,0)odmach =od0 in the ROM monitor. 3. The system try to boot from CD ROM drive but get a error message like : exception #4 (0x10) at 0x80000 Any help appreciate, Chun-Yen
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Drivers for Matrox MGA card Date: 25 Sep 1994 17:47:21 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <3655mp$28d@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <361lq8$or3@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> Gilles KHOUZAM writes: >I'm getting myself a Pentium-60 with a Matrox Ultima video card. I called >NeXT and they don't have any support for that card. Does anyone know if there >are any drivers available for NeXTStep 3.2 and the Matrox MGA cards... I have one of these cards (by accident) and, no sir, I don't like it. Seems quite flakey, the documentation is incredibly bad (how do I configure the bus mouse port on the card? The manual doesn't say), and, worst of all, it's one of the few video cards in the world that doesn't work with DOOM for DOS. Why not get a card that already works with NEXTSTEP? It's not like there aren't plenty of high-performance ones out there.
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Talus NCR chipset SCSI driver Date: 25 Sep 1994 21:26:46 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940926113027.2730AACUS.mmalc@hotaru> References: <940917212408.4378AACUH.mmalc@hotaru> I've ha a couple of responses to my message about the Talus driver... > To be brutal the machine seems slow compared to NeXTs, but I don't know if > this is due to poorly configured hardware (I followed Talus' instructions > but...) rather than the driver. The machine is also hamstrung by the Intel > EtherExpress card which doubtless slows things, so to be honest I suspect > the hardware... > Apparently the culprit is not the EtherExpress; this is said to be one of the faster cards supported by NEXTSTEP. More likely is that my bad experience with this card at home is due to the bus (ISA). The "problem" with the Talus driver may be down to a limitation with NEXTSTEP; I have been told that "apparently, NSI 3.2 has no hooks for PCI device polling (or something like that) and so Talus had to perform some kernel hacks. According to one user, Talus is aware of the problem, and it will be fixed with NSI 3.3, which DOES have the PCI hooks." Re the "warm-up" period my set-up seems to suffer from, Garance Drosehn suggested the what-should-have-been-blindingly-obvious, namely that I look for any tasks hogging CPU cycles on start-up. The culprit is autonfsmount, which according to ps grabs up to 30% for the first ten minutes or so... I don't know why this should be, I presume this is not the fault of the ethernet card, but probably something to do with the network set-up here? Oh well, Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: Re: Intel FTP sites? Message-ID: <1994Sep23.194125.15950@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <35so00$5at@crcnis1.unl.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 19:41:25 GMT jonathan ham writes > Does anybody know where I can grab an exhaustive list of FTP sites for > Intel (or source) NextStep software? > > Does anybody have any good games (other than DOOM) that are out there? > > -- email nextanswers@next.com with subject: HELP INDEX ASCII This will send you the help file and the index. I believe the article number for ftp sites 1215, Any article can be requested with subject being the article number. -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Drivers for Matrox MGA card In-Reply-To: gel@cs.mcgill.ca's message of 24 Sep 1994 16:57:44 GMT To: gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep25130843@capitalist.princeton.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <361lq8$or3@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 17:08:43 GMT In article <361lq8$or3@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) writes: I'm getting myself a Pentium-60 with a Matrox Ultima video card. I called NeXT and they don't have any support for that card. Does anyone know if there are any drivers available for NeXTStep 3.2 and the Matrox MGA cards... No, nor will there be any. The Matrox MGA can not directly map its entire memory and all NS drivers depend on that. Carl Edman
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP and Linux together on the same hard-drive Date: 26 Sep 1994 08:51:22 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <36622a$ju4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> While all this NEXTSTEP vs. Linux stuff is going back and forth, let me take a minute to ask if any of you NEXTSTEP people have also installed Linux under a separate partition on your hard drives? I have just done so and am curious about 2 things: (1) Which boot manager do you use? I'd like to keep using the NEXTSTEP boot manager, which will allow me to boot from any of the up-to-4 partitions of the hard drive, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the Linux installation process to let me make its partition (in my case DOS has partition 1, Linux has 2, and NEXTSTEP has 3 and is the primary partition) bootable without writing over the boot manager. (2) Has anyone gotten better than default-vga video working with XFree using the Miro Crystal 32S video card. My first very rudimentary attempt to use the S3 drivers did not work. Notes: I'm using NEXTTSEP 3.2 for Intel. I have the Trans-Ameritech Slackware Linux distribution (Linux version 1.0, Trans-Ameritech Release 3 April 1994). -Karl I suppose I should post this to some Linux groups soon if no one here knows....
From: fstiffo@unive.it (Francesco Stiffoni) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:05:05 +0900 Organization: University of Venice Message-ID: <fstiffo-2609941205050001@157.138.55.12> I seeking information about the new Canon workstation on intel tecnology. There is somebody, that uses it, so kind to comunicate to me his experiences and more technical informations? Thank you in davance -- Francesco Stiffoni University of Venice Linguistic Department Laboratory of Computational Linguistic
From: kampp@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Kampp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to get images from executables Date: 26 Sep 1994 14:10:34 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <366koq$o1d@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <357rpt$blb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Michael Lachmann-Tarkhanov writes >...Some applications have in their .app directory a tiff >file which is the icon of the software, but others don't - in them it >seems that the icon is inside the executable. Is there a way to get >this icon ? Yes, use "otool -l <executable>" to locate the image in the _TIFF or _ICON segment and use "segedit <executable> -extract <segmentName> <sectionName> -output <outfile>" to cut it out. Ralf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: matthew@mafusbox.demon.co.uk (Matthew Diesch) Subject: Re: Getting an alternative SCSI driver onto a floppy Distribution: world Organization: private Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:37:02 +0000 Message-ID: <529208153wnr@mafusbox.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk I need to use the 1542CF driver to install NSFIP on this Gateway P590, I know I can get it from nextanswers BUT... 1. What format will it be in, 2. My internet account is ms-dos based (yuk!) so it'll have to go on a DOS floppy, is this a problem ? My guess would be yes. So basically can I get this driver onto a floppy so the NS install will be able to read it without access to an NS machine? Also would I need to have the NS machine on the net to be able to download the driver? Could someone email me the driver as a disk image or something like that? I can get access to a nsfip machine (not internet connected :-( ) if that is going to be the only way to get the floppy formatted, then say, ftp the driver onto a dos floppy and copy it to the NS floppy on the nsfip box. Frankly I'm kinda confused (in case you hadn't noticed from the ramblings above) and any help would be appreciated. Mafu.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Talus NCR chipset SCSI driver In-Reply-To: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp's message of 25 Sep 1994 21:26:46 -0500 To: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep25231529@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <940917212408.4378AACUH.mmalc@hotaru> <940926113027.2730AACUS.mmalc@hotaru> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 03:15:29 GMT In article <940926113027.2730AACUS.mmalc@hotaru> mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) writes: Apparently the culprit is not the EtherExpress; this is said to be one of the faster cards supported by NEXTSTEP. More likely is that my bad experience with this card at home is due to the bus (ISA). That is very unlikely. People like to beat up on ISA. And not that there aren't good reasons. And, yes, ISA has less bandwidth than PCI or VLB or EISA. However, ISA still has orders of magnitude more bandwidth than most cards need. There is no way an Ethernet card or a sound card or an I/O card (or even all of them together) can saturate an ISA bus. Better-than-ISA cards have their uses, but only for devices which require huge amounts of bandwidth. The typical examples are video cards and SCSI cards (and the latter is a borderline case). You'll have to find another culprit for the low performance of your card. When you do, please let us know. Carl Edman
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some unsolicited praise for SafetyNet Date: 26 Sep 1994 13:33:33 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Message-ID: <3670ld$1jn@gandalf.rutgers.edu> References: <35slst$bh4@news.duke.edu> <35uie6$15d@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Johnston) writes: >writes: >> Words of praise for SafetyNet >I'll second that. SafetyNet is a wonderful application!!!! Well, safety net is really awsome if you have a tape device, no doubt about it! Unfortunatly, it doesn't deal well with OD's, or any other mounted filesystems. Although, tape is a great, and CHEAP, way to go, I think OD's are useful too. Especially, the new 230meg od's, which go for about $40 each; granted a DAT (2gig and up) can be had for about $4each, OD's are still useful. Anyway, in its current state, SafetyNet only deals with multi-tape backups. Not with multi OD, or anything else. I dont know why, seems like an easy enough feature to add, but I could be wrong. Im sure there probably is a much lower demand for multi OD/disk/(gasp floppy) backup solutions...but I think by adding it, it would make an already good product more complete. Oh, one other thing SafetyNet lacks is a 'Mirror Restore'. What I mean by that is if you have deleted somefiles in the course of your backup, they will still be restored. An example will best show what I mean: 1/1/94 you backup the following directory: /myStuff meetingMemo.wub (last mod 1/1/94) inventory.wks (last mod 1/1/94) 1/2/94 /mystuff meetingMemo.wub (las mod 1/2/94) (inventory.wks was deleted) When you make the newest possible restore your diretory will look like this: 1/3/94 /mystuff meetingMemo.wub (last mod 1/2/94) inventory.wks (las mod 1/1/94) But the thing is, I dont want the inventory.wks file anymore! There should be a restore mirror option that lets you restore a mirror image of your HD's state without all previously deleted files being recovered. Later, John -- monoChrome Inc. N#3 New York Law School ;^) John Kheit e#8 kheit@hangout.rutgers.edu %-) 173 Westgate Drive R#9 kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu Edison, NJ 08820-1163 D#0 Opinions expressed represent me only.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: smorris@tuzo.erin (Stephen Morris) Subject: Mux driver nad NXFax: how to mix? Message-ID: <Cwr75x.26y@credit.erin.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@credit.erin.utoronto.ca (Usenet News) Organization: Erindale College, University of Toronto, Canada Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 20:20:20 GMT Greetings all; Has anyone gotten the mux driver to work with NXFax ? I have two 486 machines with bus mice and fast serial cards with 16C552 UARTS. I have two Zyxel 1496 modems connecting them, with a max speed of 19200. If I set the DTE rate to 38400, and use the NS3.2 serial driver, the fax option seems to work fine, but I get dropped characters on data calls. I have to go down to 9600 to avoid this. So I tried installing the mux driver, which is supposed to "drop in". Again, fax seesm to work but data calls just don't: I get handshaking, connection and a login prompt, but then things either go dead or I get copious gibberish. On the console I get LOGIN FAILURE. Do I have to do something special for mux? Are 16C552s not compatible with 16550s? any help appreciated Stephen Morris
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: always boots into DOS, arghh Date: 26 Sep 1994 23:55:06 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <367n0q$eu8@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, my white (Intel) NeXT always boots into DOS, never into NS. I always have to manually hit 'n' during boot to end up with NS. Is there a way to make NS the default boot behaviour?? Thanks, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562---------------------------------------------- Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL and Requests Message-ID: <CwrCuw.LK1@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: coco@bootsie.cb.att.com Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 22:23:19 GMT When will NEXTSTEP 3.3 for INTEL processors be released? -Felix coco@bootsie.cb.att.com P.S. Please reply to this message if you're reading this. I am unsure whether my news postings are being routed to the global net or not. So please let me know IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF ATT.COM. Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) Subject: Re: Mux driver nad NXFax: how to mix? Message-ID: <CwrE1r.MFs@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: coco@bootsie.cb.att.com Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida References: <Cwr75x.26y@credit.erin.utoronto.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 22:49:02 GMT In article <Cwr75x.26y@credit.erin.utoronto.ca>, Stephen Morris <smorris@jurgen.physics.utoronto.ca> wrote: | Greetings all; | | Has anyone gotten the mux driver to work with NXFax ? | Not entirely! | I have two 486 machines with bus mice and fast serial cards with | 16C552 UARTS. I have two Zyxel 1496 modems connecting them, with a | max speed of 19200. If I set the DTE rate to 38400, and use the | NS3.2 serial driver, the fax option seems to work fine, but I get | dropped characters on data calls. I have to go down to 9600 to | avoid this. | | So I tried installing the mux driver, which is supposed to "drop in". | Again, fax seesm to work but data calls just don't: I get handshaking, | connection and a login prompt, but then things either go dead or I | get copious gibberish. On the console I get LOGIN FAILURE. | | Do I have to do something special for mux? Are 16C552s not compatible | with 16550s? | | any help appreciated | | Stephen Morris | I've experienced the same problems. NXFax works fine using NeXT's serial driver. When used in conjunction with Mux, however, faxing works; outgoing data calls work; incoming data calls hang. I also get many "silo overflow" errors from Mux on /usr/adm/messages. I've sent e-mail to the Mux developer but haven't heard back from him. --Felix coco@bootsie.cb.att.com P.S. I use a ZyXEL U1496+ connected to COM1 on an NCR 3333 (which has 16450)!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: TCP/IP, NFS, LPD for Macintosh/Nextstep Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:13:06 GMT Message-ID: <1994Sep26.121306.23350@cyantic.com> I am in great need of Mac to Next networking products based on TCP/IP. I am looking at Wollongong, and Intercon and neither is quite right: Wollongong stores the Mac's resource and data fork file in a single proprietary format, while Intercon doesn't allow a single machine on the network to serve as a PCNFSD server. Each server needs to have PCNFSD running in order to share files. This, of course, keeps Intercon from sharing files on a Novell NFS server, which unfortunately has entered the picture. Running NIS could solve the problem, but it is not possible at this time. I remember seeing a product advertised called Mach 10 for the Mac. Does it do TCP/IP, NFS, LPD, Telnet, FTP and all of the other regular networking stuff? If so, how can I get in touch with them? Please reply via email. Thanks -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mux driver nad NXFax: how to mix? Date: 26 Sep 1994 22:06:09 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <367umh$dcc@panix.com> References: <Cwr75x.26y@credit.erin.utoronto.ca> <CwrE1r.MFs@nntpa.cb.att.com> In <CwrE1r.MFs@nntpa.cb.att.com> coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) writes: >In article <Cwr75x.26y@credit.erin.utoronto.ca>, >Stephen Morris <smorris@jurgen.physics.utoronto.ca> wrote: >| Greetings all; >| >| Has anyone gotten the mux driver to work with NXFax ? >| > Not entirely! > I've experienced the same problems. NXFax works fine using NeXT's >serial driver. When used in conjunction with Mux, however, faxing works; >outgoing data calls work; incoming data calls hang. I also get many "silo >overflow" errors from Mux on /usr/adm/messages. > I've sent e-mail to the Mux developer but haven't heard back from him. I have contacted the people at Black and White, and they have found a bug in the way the Mux driver handles some element of the handshaking. This is the apparent cause of the problem. Nothing to be done until it's fixed, I guess. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: VirtSpace revisited Date: 27 Sep 1994 04:42:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3687s1$st6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> A few months ago there was a discussion on how to contact the people who own VirtSpace. I carefully squirelled away a copy of the answer, and then in my move from Texas to Michigan, I just a carefully lost it. I would appreciate it of somebody could email me and let me know how to contact Pinnacle (or whoever owns Virtspace). Many TIAs. - Steve -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University | "There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a boot jack and pulling on its tail."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: bill@nextoy.sps.mot.com (Bill Schell) Subject: swap-space full Message-ID: <CwrpME.F5v@spsnews.sps.mot.com> Keywords: swap Sender: news@spsnews.sps.mot.com Organization: Motorola Hong Kong Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 02:59:01 GMT Dear Ladies & Gents of NeXTExpertise I have seen the recent postings about swap hiwat parameter, and I would like to ask a related question: when I do a lot of "whatever" (read that stuff that fills up - or expands the swapfile's size) and it sucks up most of my available disk space (about 150MB usually) then I have to re-boot. WHY doesn't NeXTOS / Mach do "automagic garbage collection" like other Unices, why does the (un-educated) user have to let his/her machine go to "swap full" - and suffer through a crash? IS there anything we (sys-admins) can do to prevent our users from having to re-boot weekly to prevent this? THnx for any help! bill schell = Happy Bytes in Hong Kong
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: Talus NCR chipset SCSI driver Message-ID: <bchin.780630723@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <940917212408.4378AACUH.mmalc@hotaru> <940926113027.2730AACUS.mmalc@hotaru> <CEDMAN.94Sep25231529@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:52:03 GMT cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >In article <940926113027.2730AACUS.mmalc@hotaru> mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford) writes: > Apparently the culprit is not the EtherExpress; this is said to be one of the > faster cards supported by NEXTSTEP. More likely is that my bad experience > with this card at home is due to the bus (ISA). >That is very unlikely. People like to beat up on ISA. And not that >there aren't good reasons. And, yes, ISA has less bandwidth than PCI >or VLB or EISA. However, ISA still has orders of magnitude more >bandwidth than most cards need. There is no way an Ethernet card or a >sound card or an I/O card (or even all of them together) can saturate >an ISA bus. Better-than-ISA cards have their uses, but only for >devices which require huge amounts of bandwidth. The typical examples >are video cards and SCSI cards (and the latter is a borderline case). Whoa. While yes, ethernet, sound, and I/O cards cannot saturate a 5mb/s bus, the issue isn't that simple. After all, we are dealing with a *bus*. If an ethernet card is using the bus, *nothing* else can. Say, we're getting 1mb/sec throughput on the ethernet card. While ISA can handle this card at full speed, what about the rest of the peripherals that are in the system? After all, an ftp transfer involves getting the data off the ethernet card to memory, transferring the data to the SCSI card, and updating the video display. That's three cards contending for the bus and that's assuming *nothing* else is happening. If you can burst these transfers at very high speeds, easily arbitrate the bus, and allow the cards to directly transfer to main memory (DMA), you have much better overall performance. With higher loads, the gains are even bigger. ISA does not have support for bus masters and cannot easily handle more than one (which is breaking the pseudo-spec already). ISA is only 16 bits wide (goes to that bandwidth issue, even if your original data is only 8 or 16 bits wide). ISA can only do 5mb/s on a very good day with high quality components (both motherboard & cards). Arbitration of cards is slow, especially when dealing with bus mastering cards (pretty much all SCSI cards and some sound cards). The end result is, it's not like a simple water pipe where you just count the diameter of the pipe for bandwidth. I am not saying that NEXTSTEP is currently doing all it can to get performance out of PC hardware; after all, lots of other multitasking OS's get better ethernet & serial performance. However, the issues are not that simple and workstation/mainframe like design of component subsystems can help an OS like NEXTSTEP a lot. PC's that do so also tend to cost as much as workstations. -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dimitri@duti614b.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko) Subject: Re: always boots into DOS, arghh Message-ID: <Cws8zD.9KI@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> Sender: news@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (TWI News Administration) Organization: Delft University of Technology References: <367n0q$eu8@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 09:57:12 GMT In article <367n0q$eu8@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>, Helmut Heller <heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de> wrote: >Hello, > >my white (Intel) NeXT always boots into DOS, never into NS. I always have to >manually hit 'n' during boot to end up with NS. > >Is there a way to make NS the default boot behaviour?? > >Thanks, >Helmut > Make sure the NEXTSTEP partition is active. You can use fdisk to set the active partition. Dimitri -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dimitri Tischenko | D.B.Tischenko@TWI.TUDelft.NL | NeXTmail preferred! | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ | Delft University of Technology | NeGeN | | Fac Applied Math & Computer Science| NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland | | Dep of Statistics, Probabilitistics| NiNe | | and Operations Research | NEXTSTEP In the Netherlands | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) Subject: Re: Getting an alternative SCSI driver onto a floppy Message-ID: <rbzCwsGJ4.1Hn@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <529208153wnr@mafusbox.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 12:40:16 GMT matthew@mafusbox.demon.co.uk (Matthew Diesch) writes: >So basically can I get this driver onto a floppy so the NS install will be able to read >it without access to an NS machine? The folks at 1-800-TRY-NEXT will be more than happy to mail you a floppy disk (formatted for NeXTStep) with the drivers you require. -- <Rodger> ====================================================== Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com 1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884 Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636 ======================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: .tar.gz extension Message-ID: <1994Sep27.094331.1731@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1994Sep23.193446.15823@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 09:43:31 GMT In article <1994Sep23.193446.15823@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> brad@instep.wimsey.com writes: }~ Jason T. Nelson writes }~ > In article <CwI6H1.Mo2@cup.hp.com>, }~ > Dave Waller <dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com> wrote: }~ > >What do I do with a file that has a .gz extension? }~ > [snip] }~ > }~ If you're running NEXTSTEP 3.2 then you have gunzip: /usr/bin/gunzip. }~ You may not be able to see the manual page due to an error in the }~ installation (the workaround in your hardcopy release notes is wrong ): Also, if it's a .tar.gz, tar.Z, .compressed, .taz, .TAZ, .tgz or .TGZ file, you can use the built-in gunzip in gnutar... gnutar -xvzf my.tar.gz gnutar -xvZf my.tar.Z gnutar -xvZf - < my.compressed gnutar -xvzf - < my.tgz or MY.TGZ gnutar -xvZf - < my.taZ or MY.TAZ or my.taz ( .tar.gz == .tgz == .TGZ ) ( .tar.Z == .compressed == .taZ == .taz == .TAZ ) Note that the "z" or "Z" flag is case sensitive for gzip or compress compatibility. gnutar is distributed as /usr/bin/gnutar with NEXTSTEP 3.2 --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY NEXT IN LINE staff technical writer <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: swap-space full Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:12:15 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <giW2Uz600iV881dSlD@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CwrpME.F5v@spsnews.sps.mot.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 27-Sep-94 swap-space full by Bill Schell@nextoy.sps.m > when I do a lot of "whatever" (read that stuff that fills up - or expands > the swapfile's size) and it sucks up most of my available disk space > (about 150MB usually) then I have to re-boot. > > WHY doesn't NeXTOS / Mach do "automagic garbage collection" like other > Unices, why does the (un-educated) user have to let his/her machine go to > "swap full" - and suffer through a crash? The simple answer is NEXTSTEP/Mach _does_ reuse old memory pages in the swapfile when they are no longer available. The swapfile only grows to the point of the highest total VM use, and _will_ shrink down afterwards to the highest page still in use when less VM is needed. Typing 'exit' at the login panel every so often (every few days or so) will restart the WindowServer, and has a reasonable chance to free up some high pages, thereby reducing the swapfile size more. Secondly, other Unices don't do any better than Mach for dealing with their VM systems, and most do substantially worse, requiring permenantly allocated hard drive partition(s) to swap on which can _never_ shrink without actually reformatting the drive! For more details, I'll repost in it's entirety Avadis Tevanian's post on this subject. (He's the gentleman who wrote Mach, if you don't recognize the name.) -------------------------- From: avie@next.com (Avadis Tevanian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Why does NS require so much Memory? Date: 6 Jun 1994 04:38:53 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. [ ... ] Here's the facts on how swapfiles work: For every page in the swapfile, the kernel maintains status telling whether that page is in use or not. When a swapfile it enabled (mach_swapon), it is truncated to lowat and each page is flagged as free. When the page out daemon requests a page to be swapped out, the pager locates the first free page in the swapfile (actually, there is an algorithm to determine which swapfile is used, if more than one is enabled, but I will omit this from the discussion). The first free page is defined as the lowest numbered page. As more and more memory is consumed by processes, higher and higher numbered pages are used. When all pages in the swapfile are in use, and additional page out causes the swapfile to be extended in size. This occurs until hiwat is reached. If hiwat is reached, or if the file system is out of space, the page will be left in memory (unless there is another swapfile enabled that can be used). If the system stays in this state, it will eventually be full of dirty pages which can not be paged out. When this happens, the system comes to a grinding halt as it is forced to use fewer and fewer pages of memory (memory is filled with dirty pages that can not be paged out). Now, it gets interesting when we consider what happens when memory is freed. In particular, when a process exits or calls vm_deallocate, the VM system attempts to free any memory that was associated with the appropriate regions of virtual memory. When memory is shared, it simply makes a note that there is one fewer reference to the shared memory (or copy-on-written memory) and no further action is taken. If this is the last reference to the memory, any corresponding physical pages are freed from main memory and any corresponding pages in the swapfile are tagged as free. A subsequent allocation of page on the swapfile will most definitely reuse this page! When a page is freed, if it is the highest page in the swapfile, the swapfile will be truncated all the way down to the highest page in use (down to lowat). In practice, this happens rarely. The basic problem is that if you have a long running process use a very high number paged (e.g., if the Windowserver allocates a high numbered page) the swapfile will not get truncated until that process exits --- which could be a very long time. When this happens due to a core process (e.g., the nmserver), which cannot be restarted unless the system is rebooted, your swapfile will remain large. Still, there can be lots of free pages in the swapfile file, and rest assured they will be reused! So why don't we compact the swapfile to handle these pages that get allocated at high page numbers? Good question. We've considered doing it many times. However, it has always been considered a quite risky change (how many of YOU have debugged a virtual memory system before) and would need to be done very carefully to ensure correctness and adequate performance. As an example, it would not be acceptable to just start a compaction and cause the system to lock up as the kernel does several megabytes of I/O for the compaction. The relative merits of making this improvement has never outweighted the costs in risk and the opportunity costs of not working on other parts of the system. I'm not saying we'll never do it, I'm just saying we haven't done it yet for some carefully considered reasons. Having said all of this, why do so many people seem to have problems with their swapfiles? Here are some possible explanations: 1) Not everyone realizes just how much memory their apps use. As has been mentioned before, the Windowserver keeps backing store for all the windows (on or off screen). On 16-bit color systems this can be quite large, on 24-bit systems its downright huge! Simple images on the screen can translate into megabytes of storage. Mathematica sessions are notorious for consuming 10's or even 100's of megabytes of VM. 2) Programs occasionally have memory leaks. We work hard to be sure that the software we release does not have leaks. There's a reason we developed MallocDebug! I think we do pretty well, but I'm sure there are some bugs. For example, the Windowserver, with it's printer heritage, has long had problems with correctly managing its memory. On the printers they just "reset" the memory heap for each new job --- we can't do that. If/when the Windowserver leaks we get a double whammy since not only do we leak a small amount of memory, but the Windowserver is a long running process and tends to hog those high numbered pages. I think NEXTSTEP ISV's generally do a good job too, but it only takes one or two apps to leak memory and cause problems. 3) As many of you know, Mach has a quite advanced virtual memory scheme, which NEXTSTEP makes excellent use of. Features like copy-on-write and pageable read/write sharing can cause complex relationships between memory and how it is mapped into one or more processes. There is one known optimization that the kernel does (specifically the coalescing of adjacent memory regions when backing store has not yet been allocated --- for those of you Mach VM literate) which sometimes causes the freeing of some memory to be delayed until a process has exited. The situations when this happens are fairly rare, and worse case the memory is freed when the process exits, but it wouldn't surprise me if this is the cause of isolated problems. I personally think the Mach swapfile solution is quite good. I'm obviously biased though. Sure, there are a few things I think could be improved, but that's true of any piece of software. Overall I think we've made some reasonable trade-offs. I also think swapfile management is fairly bug-free. We know we can improve the situation is (3) above (but it is difficult). Certainly if anyone has any other possible reasons for swapfile growth, especially with concrete examples of programs, let us know so we can investigate! I'd be more than happy to read suggestions others have on improving how swapfiles work. I can't guarantee we'll implement them, but you never know! I hope this sheds a little light on the whole swapfile discussion. Somehow I think it will still continue on --- but hopefully it can be grounded with a few more facts now. Avie ----------------------- -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: GREGORY GEE <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem getting past SLIP server. Date: 27 Sep 1994 14:25:20 GMT Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Message-ID: <9409271423.AA02636@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Originator: daemon@julian.uwo.ca I finally got SLIP to work on my NeXT. Now the only problem is that I can't get past the SLIP server. I can ping, telnet, anything to the SLIP server, but I can't get access past it. Looking at the activity of my modem, or lack of it, I'd say that it is my machine that can't route through the SLIP server to get to the internet. Is there other config files that I forgot. I am running TRANSYS DialupIP. Any suggestions? **************************************************************************** Greg Gee The G-Man Honours Computer Science, gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario gee@syslab.csd.uwo.ca >>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<< NeXT Mail accepted ****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Adaptec 1542cf special driver? Message-ID: <jpanicoCwsKH0.n3y@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:05:24 GMT Does the 1542cf require a driver other than the one included on the NSI 3.2 CD-ROM? Is the 1542cf sufficiently different from the 1542b that one SHOULD use a different driver? Any info appreciated. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Partitioning non-boot disks Message-ID: <jpanicoCwsKuA.F1@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:13:22 GMT Hi, Are there any admin tools for partitioning SCSI disks? I know that diskBuilder will partition, but the disk I want to partition is NOT a boot disk. Thanks for any help. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: trestrail@aol.com (Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542cf special driver? Date: 27 Sep 1994 11:56:02 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <369fai$pgs@newsbf01.news.aol.com> References: <jpanicoCwsKH0.n3y@netcom.com> In article <jpanicoCwsKH0.n3y@netcom.com>, jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) writes: >Does the 1542cf require a driver other than the one included on the NSI 3.2 >CD-ROM? Is the 1542cf sufficiently different from the 1542b that one SHOULD >use a different driver? > You _may_ be able to use the driver supplied with 3.2 distribution, but its probably best to get the updated driver from NeXT. If you get the updated driver, install using the instructions in NeXTanswers 1541. The NeXTanswer # for the updated driver are 1520 & 1521, if memory serves. Regards, Jeff Trestrail trestrail@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: brianew@microsoft.com (Brian Ewanchuk) Subject: How do I print to NextPrinter from PC over NET ??? Message-ID: <CwrHLD.4L1@microsoft.com> Organization: Microsoft Corp. Keywords: print Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 00:05:34 GMT Distribution: usa Hi ...I have a NextStation and a next Printer attached....I also have a PC running Windows For Workgroups 3.11 .. .anyways..any ideas on what I have to on the Next side ( or both for that matter ) in order to print ot the Next printer directly??? I have TCP/IP running on the PC and it can FTP to the Next ......but I want to be alble to print directly.... thanks Brianew@microsoft.com
From: root@tamtam.xs4all (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 64 Driver Date: 27 Sep 1994 17:13:43 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <369js7$tm@news.xs4all.nl> References: <35pi4j$2pp@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de> In article <35pi4j$2pp@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de> laire@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt) writes: > vallet@cui.unige.ch (VALLET Didier) writes: > > >I am ready to buy the wonderful Stealth 64 graphic card but I don t know > >if the beta driver available now is good and stable. > > >Any experiences and comments welcomed ... > > I had no problems at all...a netfriend uses the VLB version > and had also no bad experiences. > -- > Ralph Schmidt laire@uni-paderborn.de > University of Paderborn (Germany) I'm using the PCI board. No problems at all. If you buy the 4Mb version, don't use the 1152*864*32 bit @ 75 Hz option the driver is offering you (unless you have the 170 MHz RAMDAC) hugob
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: *** Check your Hearing !! :-) *** Message-ID: <1994Sep27.124713.27836@ac.dal.ca> Date: 27 Sep 94 12:47:13 -0300 Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada PRESS RELEASE , September 27, 1994 Digital Audiometer Software for NeXTSTEP Computers - new product ================================================================ AUDIO-Tone.demo.app is a demo of the Digital Audiometer software - hearing testing software for NeXTSTEP - compatible computers. This version should work on all Motorola and Intel - based NeXTSTEP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* . AUDIO-Tone.demo.app is available on the following FTP sites: ( please look for file AUDIO-Tone.tar.Z ) ================================= ftp.cs.orst.edu nova.cc.purdue.edu sonata.cc.purdue.edu ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it terra.stack.urc.tue.nl ================================= For more information please contact: Digital Recordings - Advanced R & D 5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103 Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H-1Y5, Canada Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622 E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
From: brian@umbc.edu (Brian Cuthie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Some unsolicited praise for SafetyNet Date: 27 Sep 1994 13:02:14 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <369j6mINNsq0@umbc7.umbc.edu> References: <35slst$bh4@news.duke.edu> <35uie6$15d@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> <3670ld$1jn@gandalf.rutgers.edu> This was such a nice thread to this point... :-) In article <3670ld$1jn@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote: > >Anyway, in its current state, SafetyNet only deals with multi-tape backups. >Not with multi OD, or anything else. I dont know why, seems like an easy >enough feature to add, but I could be wrong. Im sure there probably is a >much lower demand for multi OD/disk/(gasp floppy) backup solutions...but >I think by adding it, it would make an already good product more complete. Well the problem is essentially this: The Workspace Manager grabs the disk (floppy or OD) before SafetyNet can do anything with it. Therefore, it's darn near impossible to manage the media in the way the tapes are managed. One solution that would work is to spoof the WM into believing that the disk contained a "SafetyNet" file system. This really wouldn't be that difficult, but NeXT has never published the details of the foreign file system interface. As soon as I can get someone to tell me how the FFS works, I'll be more than happy to write a loadable module for SafetyNet that supports Floppy disk and ODs in the same way that tapes are handled. Believe me, when I started writing SafetyNet, I had every intention of fully supporting mountable media. I didn't expect to run into so many roadblocks during the process, though. >Oh, one other thing SafetyNet lacks is a 'Mirror Restore'. What I mean by >that is if you have deleted somefiles in the course of your backup, they will >still be restored. He's right. While it is possible to restore specific instances of a file, it's not currently easy to restore a specific instance of a directory. I am working on fixing this, though. Cheers, Brian -- Brian Cuthie Systemix Software, Inc. brian@systemix.com
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: .tar.gz extension Date: 27 Sep 1994 16:44:49 GMT Organization: Department of Physics, University of Alberta Message-ID: <369i61$lrj@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Sep23.193446.15823@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> <1994Sep27.094331.1731@ToTSySSoft.com> Bruce Gingery (bruce@TotSysSoft.com) wrote: : Also, if it's a .tar.gz, tar.Z, .compressed, .taz, .TAZ, .tgz or .TGZ : file, you can use the built-in gunzip in gnutar... : gnutar -xvzf my.tar.gz : gnutar -xvZf my.tar.Z : gnutar -xvZf - < my.compressed : gnutar -xvzf - < my.tgz or MY.TGZ : gnutar -xvZf - < my.taZ or MY.TAZ or my.taz : ( .tar.gz == .tgz == .TGZ ) : ( .tar.Z == .compressed == .taZ == .taz == .TAZ ) : Note that the "z" or "Z" flag is case sensitive for gzip or compress : compatibility. gnutar is distributed as /usr/bin/gnutar with NEXTSTEP 3.2 Since gzip/gunzip will happily process files from 'compress' (and 'pack' as well), one may forget about this z/Z file business when unpacking and use lower case 'z' flag always. 'Z' flag is important only when you are **creating** a compressed archive which will be possibly unpacked on a gzip-deficient machine (harder and harder to find nowadays). Just to have some variation to commands listed above :-), you may try this: cat my.compressed | gnutar -tvzf - to see what is inside. Michal Jaegermann michal@phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Mux driver and NXFax: how to mix? Organization: ADEC Systems Inc. Distribution: na Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 19:40:03 GMT Message-ID: <1994Sep27.194003.7025@ve6mgs.ampr.org> References: <Cwr75x.26y@credit.erin.utoronto.ca> <CwrE1r.MFs@nntpa.cb.att.com> <367umh$dcc@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: >coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) writes: >>Stephen Morris <smorris@jurgen.physics.utoronto.ca> wrote: >>| Has anyone gotten the mux driver to work with NXFax ? >> Not entirely! >> I've experienced the same problems. NXFax works fine using NeXT's >>serial driver. When used in conjunction with Mux, however, faxing works; >>outgoing data calls work; incoming data calls hang. I also get many "silo >>overflow" errors from Mux on /usr/adm/messages. >> I've sent e-mail to the Mux developer but haven't heard back from him. >I have contacted the people at Black and White, and they have found >a bug in the way the Mux driver handles some element of the handshaking. >This is the apparent cause of the problem. Nothing to be done until >it's fixed, I guess. I will fix it *immediately* as soon as I am told what this problem is ;-/ As it stands, Mux supports the complete POSIX tty setup. What is happening is that a call to the ioctl is made by *something* during the login sequence in NXFax *sometimes* that sets the number of data bits to 5, which Mux complies with. SerialPorts only handles 7 and 8 data bits per character, and thus does not comply (and thus works). The fix is to turn off POSIX tty support, which has been done in Mux V1.5 (it can be compiled back in for those that started using the programability for their controller projects). I do not have a NXFax compliant modem, and thus can not test out myself what causes this problem. NXFax does NOT use any of the POSIX ioctl routines, so I suspect that a third party is setting the CBITS field to a value of `0' (thus setting Mux to 5 data bits a character). Neither I, or the NXFax people have been able to find out what is causing this. The fix is for Mux to be less energetic in handling all the (undocumented)POSIX ioctl functions, as has been done in V1.5 of the driver. As for sending email to me, if I have not replied within two days of you sending your email, then try mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org, or mark@adec23.UUCP. You may also contact Talus systems for support. In either case, I thought I was approachable, but apparently David, Felix and Stephen have decided I am not. Sending email is simple, and I am eager to fix whatever problems have been occurring (within my means). Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn
From: absinthe@viva.chem.washington.edu (Daniel Faken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to transfer printer CPU load to another machine? Date: 27 Sep 1994 20:46:34 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <36a0ba$s1l@news.u.washington.edu> Keywords: printer A laser printer is to be hooked up to my NeXT, but I would like to transfer some or all of the load off my CPU onto another machine (e.g. a NeXT, although I would prefer a non-NeXT if possible). How can I do this? Jobs will be submitted remotely as well as locally. thanks for any help, Daniel Faken absinthe@u.washington.edu
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542cf special driver? Date: 27 Sep 1994 22:05:30 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <36a4va$m6a@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <369fai$pgs@newsbf01.news.aol.com> I installed NS 3.2 without troubles using the 1542B driver on a 1542CF. In fact, the compatibility guide specifies the 1542B driver for use with the 1542CF. You just need to make sure to turn off the floppy controller on the card. (DIP 5 ON, I believe_ Nick Fogelson
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: lots of trouble with PNI Date: 27 Sep 1994 22:10:09 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <36a581$m6a@pith.uoregon.edu> I am having a lot of trouble getting PNI to work correctly. For some reason, I consistently get a "recv char" error when it is looking for the dynamically assigned IP adress. I have the rexpect command set correctly, I think (the local UNIX guru also thinks so), but it just won't recognize the IP address in the data stream. Has anyone else had this trouble? Does anyone know how I can get PNI to print the entire data stream so I can verify that it is coming through correctly? Thanks. Nick Fogelson P.S> I am trying to connect to the University of Oregon. If anyone has experience using PNI with the UofO then please mail. I am really desperate (I have been having to go to the university to use a computer since I can't file transfer fro home very easily).
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: .tar.gz extension Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 17:47:17 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IiW9=ZS00iV989tqlB@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <369i61$lrj@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 27-Sep-94 Re: .tar.gz extension by Michal Jaegermann@gortel > Just to have some variation to commands listed above :-), you may try this: > > cat my.compressed | gnutar -tvzf - FYI, it'll be faster to use: gnutar tzf my.compressed or gnutar tzf - < my.compressed rather than pipe the data through 'cat'. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu (David A. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 64 Driver Date: 27 Sep 1994 22:24:49 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <36a63h$ikr@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <369js7$tm@news.xs4all.nl> Operator writes In article <35pi4j$2pp@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de> laire@haegar2.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt) writes: > vallet@cui.unige.ch (VALLET Didier) writes: > > >I am ready to buy the wonderful Stealth 64 graphic card but I don t know > >if the beta driver available now is good and stable. > > >Any experiences and comments welcomed ... > > I had no problems at all...a netfriend uses the VLB version > and had also no bad experiences. > -- > Ralph Schmidt laire@uni-paderborn.de > University of Paderborn (Germany) I have a PCI version and made the mistake of ordering it with only 2mB of video ram. Unfortunately the VRAM on the PCI version is not upgradable although on the VESA and ISA versions it is. So be sure to order your PCI Stealth 64 with 4mB.
From: dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu (David A. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Date: 27 Sep 1994 22:28:36 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1994Sep22.115340.27626@cc.usu.edu> >>Is there a NeXT pacakage that letes you run Windows in a NeXT window >>remotely like NXHost or XHost?? Semmes to me It would be a money maker >>espcially if it could do X,Mac and Windows. Now your really dreaming! If a package existed like that (and was stable) I'd buy half a dozen copies at almost any cost! david
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: programmer workshops Message-ID: <1994Sep27.174103.119@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 27 Sep 94 17:41:02 CST Followup-To: poster Organization: As little as I can get away with... I'm looking for programmer workshops in 1994, 1995. Please forward any info you can. Thanks, kc Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mux driver nad NXFax: how to mix? Date: 28 Sep 1994 00:18:01 GMT Organization: Internetworks, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <36acnq$6cp@pdx1.i.net> References: <CwrE1r.MFs@nntpa.cb.att.com> In article <CwrE1r.MFs@nntpa.cb.att.com> coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) writes: > In article <Cwr75x.26y@credit.erin.utoronto.ca>, > Stephen Morris <smorris@jurgen.physics.utoronto.ca> wrote: > | Greetings all; > | > | Has anyone gotten the mux driver to work with NXFax ? > | > > Not entirely! > > | I have two 486 machines with bus mice and fast serial cards with > | 16C552 UARTS. I have two Zyxel 1496 modems connecting them, with a > | max speed of 19200. If I set the DTE rate to 38400, and use the > | NS3.2 serial driver, the fax option seems to work fine, but I get > | dropped characters on data calls. I have to go down to 9600 to > | avoid this. > | > | So I tried installing the mux driver, which is supposed to "drop in". > | Again, fax seesm to work but data calls just don't: I get handshaking, > | connection and a login prompt, but then things either go dead or I > | get copious gibberish. On the console I get LOGIN FAILURE. > | > | Do I have to do something special for mux? Are 16C552s not compatible > | with 16550s? > | > | any help appreciated > | > | Stephen Morris > | > > I've experienced the same problems. NXFax works fine using NeXT's > serial driver. When used in conjunction with Mux, however, faxing works; > outgoing data calls work; incoming data calls hang. I also get many "silo > overflow" errors from Mux on /usr/adm/messages. > > I've sent e-mail to the Mux developer but haven't heard back from him. > > --Felix > coco@bootsie.cb.att.com > > P.S. I use a ZyXEL U1496+ connected to COM1 on an NCR 3333 (which has 16450)! I have both a ZyXEL modem and a USR 28.8 K modem connected to my PC. I had the same problem with NXfax when using the Mux driver. So what I did was have NeXTStep load Mux for com1:, and Next Serial driver for com2: This has solved all my problems, I get reliable 57.6 k for my 28.8 k modem and NXfax works perfectly since I'm using the Next serial driver.. If anyone wants specific info on how I did it , just let me know.. -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: woden@max.net23.csuohio.edu (Lord of Asgard) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP and Linux together on the same hard-drive Message-ID: <1994Sep28.024530.8538@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <36622a$ju4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 02:45:30 GMT In article <36622a$ju4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > While all this NEXTSTEP vs. Linux stuff is going back and forth, let me > take a minute to ask if any of you NEXTSTEP people have also installed > Linux under a separate partition on your hard drives? I have a DELL Optiplex running NSFIP 3.2 with a DOS partition with Linux installed on the DOS partiton. When I want to bring it up in Linux I use a boot disc in the A: drive (crude but efective)... While all this NEXTSTEP vs. Linux stuff is going back and forth, let me > take a minute to ask if any of you NEXTSTEP people have also installed > Linux under a separate partition on your hard drives? I have a DELL Optiplex running NSFIP 3.2 with a DOS partition with Linux installed on the DOS partiton. When I want to bring it up in Linux I use a boot disc in the A: dr
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Mux driver and NXFax: how to mix? Date: 27 Sep 1994 23:42:25 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Distribution: na Message-ID: <36aon1$531@panix.com> References: <Cwr75x.26y@credit.erin.utoronto.ca> <CwrE1r.MFs@nntpa.cb.att.com> <367umh$dcc@panix.com> <1994Sep27.194003.7025@ve6mgs.ampr.org> In <1994Sep27.194003.7025@ve6mgs.ampr.org> mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) writes: >dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: >>coco@bootsie.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) writes: >>>Stephen Morris <smorris@jurgen.physics.utoronto.ca> wrote: >>>| Has anyone gotten the mux driver to work with NXFax ? >>> Not entirely! >>> I've experienced the same problems. NXFax works fine using NeXT's >>>serial driver. When used in conjunction with Mux, however, faxing works; >>>outgoing data calls work; incoming data calls hang. I also get many "silo >>>overflow" errors from Mux on /usr/adm/messages. >>> I've sent e-mail to the Mux developer but haven't heard back from him. >>I have contacted the people at Black and White, and they have found >>a bug in the way the Mux driver handles some element of the handshaking. >>This is the apparent cause of the problem. Nothing to be done until >>it's fixed, I guess. >I will fix it *immediately* as soon as I am told what this problem is ;-/ <long description of protocol mismatch deleted> >In either case, I thought I was approachable, but apparently David, Felix >and Stephen have decided I am not. Actually not - I just figured that if you knew about it, you were working on it. >Sending email is simple, and I am eager >to fix whatever problems have been occurring (within my means). I'm certain that you are, and only wish that I could use your fine product as much as possible. >Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn - later - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cub x Keyboard Map Problem Date: 27 Sep 1994 16:29:56 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <369ha4$c4m@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Hallo, we have a big problem whit our Cub'X . we bought it to use our FrameMaker Licenses on our Suns. Unfortunately cub X does not support ( while using Frame) the upper charakters of the first keyboard row (Shift 1 (!) Shift 2 (") etc . and further: shift + (*) shift # (') etc. Without this important charakters CubX is quite useless for us. we use the german keyboard setting from next - unmodified (but it is the same with the english or USA keyboard map as well) the Problem happens on both intel and motorola ... on both Frame 3 and Frame4 on Sun os 4.1.3 and Solaris 2.3. What can we do? to fix this would be very important for us. (this bug only appears while using Frame and that is, what we want to do..) I tried to contact Intuitiv Systems by mail and fax, but they does not seem to care about our problems. I am quite annoyed..... please help !!!!!!! Thanks for any help --- Gabor Freivogel GhK- University of Kassel/ Germany Dept. of Architecture Henschelstr. 2 34109 Kassel Germany E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (nextmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michael@mcnabb.com (Michael McNabb) Subject: Re: Using the NeXT as an dictation machine? Message-ID: <1994Sep27.175851.2394@mcnabb.com> Sender: michael@mcnabb.com References: <Q3SSBC7Q@obh.in-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 17:58:51 GMT In article <Q3SSBC7Q@obh.in-berlin.de> ob@obh.in-berlin.de (Oliver Brandmueller) writes: > > I want to use my NeXT as an dictation machine. That means I get > *.snd-Files and have to type. The usual SoundPlayers don't help me too > much, cause I need rewind (fast forward would be fine but I don't really > *need* it). > > I've tested it with a Demo of Soundworks. It works, but the rewind and ff > buttons are "too fast" and the whole software I thin is a lot too big for > what I want. > I sell a product designed specifically for this purpose. Objectware which implements all the audio functionality is also available. - Michael McNabb ------------------------------------- The Transcibe Application The Transcribe application implements enhanced dictaphone(tm)-style recording, playback, and editing from NeXT computer or NS/Intel sound board microphone input. Features include adjustable pause rewind, CD-like audible fast forward and rewind, up to 200% or 50% playback speed adjustment without pitch change, voice-activated recording with adjustable sensitivity, record insertions, real-time multi-band tone controls, and small sound files with adjustable compression. Time markers can be added to dictations and associated with arbitrary text or id numbers, and playback and record operations can be performed on areas delineated by the markers. Transcribe also includes an integrated transcription text editor with keyboard control of sound playback, a dictation file browser, and a marker editor. A Distributed Object interface allows another application to control loading of dictation files. The available serial interface hardware allows record and playback functions to be controlled by standard Sanyo or Lanier dictation foot pedals and microphones.
From: chris@quetzal.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fax-Modem on HP 712 Date: 28 Sep 1994 07:54:23 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <36b7ff$e2j@taloa.unice.fr> Keywords: Fax-Modem Does anyone tell me what to do for this : I've a HP Gecko with a Hayes compatible modem (it's a fax modem and I've the programs to use it with Window). I know the Hayes commands to send to the modem to fax. I've tried to configure with PrintManager my "NeXT station" with the two known fax configurations : InterFax and HSD Fax. But there is no result, no Fax is sended. Is there a configuration file to modify or to add, or ??? ? If you have suggestions, please send at this address, Thank. ----------------------------------------------------------- ! TAGGIASCO Chritian ! ! e-mail : chris@doublon.unice.fr ! ! ! ! Institut Non Lineaire de Nice ! ! UMR 129 - C.N.R.S. Universite de Nice Sophia Antipolis ! ! 1361 route des lucioles - Sophia Antipolis - ! -----------------------------------------------------------
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to transfer printer CPU load to another machine? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 28 Sep 1994 12:59:24 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <36bpbc$663@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <36a0ba$s1l@news.u.washington.edu> Daniel Faken (absinthe@viva.chem.washington.edu) wrote: : A laser printer is to be hooked up to my NeXT, but I would like : to transfer some or all of the load off my CPU onto another machine : (e.g. a NeXT, although I would prefer a non-NeXT if possible). : How can I do this? : Jobs will be submitted remotely as well as locally. Eh? If you want the printer hooked up locally, but want the cpu cycles on another machine, then I think you are out of luck. If it's a non-next printer (e.g. another type of PS printer) then the CPU hit is minimal. All the cpu does is shovel the stuff out the serial port. Next is Unix so remote printing is fairly simple to set up. See man page for lpd. -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI Error on NeXT Cube Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 17:29:46 Organization: University of Southampton Message-ID: <rjh.12.00117F90@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Hi, Every time I start up a NeXT cube that I have got hold of after the disk spins for a short while I get a box appearing saying "SCSI error", the disk then spins again for a while then the SCSI error appears again. This appears to continue until I power down the machine. Has any-one got any advice/ideas as to what might be causing these problems ? TIA Rupert Hollom E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk URL http://ilc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/welcome.html -------------------------------------------------------------- SnailMail : Rupert Hollom, Interactive Learning Centre, Building 32, University of Southampton, Highfield, Southampton, SO17 1BJ, U.K. Phone : (0703) 594472, Fax : (0703) 592082 E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk URL - http://ilc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/welcome.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: Help installing MusicKit_4.0 on a NeXT. Message-ID: <CwusGD.LKI@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: na Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:53:00 GMT Hi. I need help installing MusicKit_4.0 [Floppy version] on my NeXTStation . I have extracted (i.e. tar -xvf) the 9 tar files and I am left with nine MusicKit_4.0.pkg files. How do I install these properly, since the normal installation process fails? The README file states that : " Someone said it works to cat all the .Z files into one large .Zfile and make it look like one big package" .This is not clear to me. Can someone please let me know the best procedure to successfully install MusicKit? Your help is much appreciated. Tomas
From: beegle@cyberspace.com (Chris G Beegle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FAQ for NeXt Step Date: 28 Sep 1994 10:59:06 -0700 Organization: Cyberlink Communications (206) 281-5397 Message-ID: <36cata$6ap@case.cyberspace.com> Does anyone know where any FAQ's are on Next? E-Mail Address either beegle@cyberspace.com Chris_Beegle@wiltel.com <preferred>
From: balu@binah.cc.brandeis.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PS/2 MOUSE Date: 28 Sep 1994 20:51:06 GMT Organization: Brandeis University Message-ID: <36ckvq$bik@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Hi, We are running NeXTStep 3.2 on GateWay 2000 with a PS/2 Mouse. The mouse once in a while just jumps by itself to some random positions. Has anyone experienced this problem. I was told that there exists a new mouseDriver. Any info on how to get the new mouseDriver or any hints about how to go about solving this problem will be helpful. Thanks Balu
From: davida@macbeth.umd.edu (David Arnold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Problem with printing/sound in NS3.2 Date: 28 Sep 1994 16:55:23 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: na Message-ID: <36cl7r$ng3@macbeth.umd.edu> A user of mine had a situation where their NeXTstation running NS3.2 was on during a thunderstorm. After that, they had problems with both printing and playing sound files. When I investigated printing, I found several things. In the file /usr/adm/messages I found the following entries: <date> <time> <hostname> kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed <date> <time> <hostname> kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed <date> <time> <hostname> kern_loader: kern_loader: server audio won't link <date> <time> <hostname> kern_loader: kern_loader: server audio won't link I then looked further and discovered they had no file /usr/etc/lpd, so I transferred a copy from another system. I then re-loaded the printcap entry for the Local_Printer following information I saw posted to the NeXTManagers list. I tried printing a text file, and while it did print out, the /usr/adm/messages file had the following entry: <date> <time> <hostname> Print_Server[nnn]: cannot find printer entry: Local_Printer If it's printing, why is this message getting generated? What can I do to fix the problem? On the sound front, when you issue the command: sndplay foo.snd we get the error: sndplay: Cannot play soundfile: foo.snd although no errors appear in /usr/adm/messages. No sound is generated. I'm passingly familiar with printing issues (still shaky under 3.2), and even less familiar with sound issues. Any help is appreciated, and direct replies are especially appreciated! Thanks, David Arnold (301)405-7636 Inet: davida@umd5.umd.edu Consultant, CSC Bitnet: davida%umd5.umd.edu@cunyvm University of Maryland UUCP: uunet!umd5.umd.edu!davida College Park, MD 20742 NeXTmail: davida@anagram.umd.edu
From: alanlb@sequoia.cs.vt.edu (Alan Batongbacal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for Beavis&Butthead .snd file Date: 28 Sep 1994 22:24:54 -0400 Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <36d8hm$12b@sequoia.cs.vt.edu> Hello! A while back there was a .snd file called "Uhhuhhuh.snd" or something like it on one of the NeXT archives. It's a sample of B&B sniggering/laughing as only they can. I deleted my copy accidentally-- if anyone has it, could you send it to me, either as a uuencoded file or via NeXTmail? Thanks! alanlb@cs.vt.edu -- "Kore wa meeree desu" <This is an order (to kiss)> --Hayase Misa (Macross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Subject: Re: VirtSpace revisited (NYRO now sells it) Message-ID: <CwvK33.vH@nyro.com> Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software. References: <3687s1$st6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 04:49:50 GMT NYRO Technix, Inc. is now supporting and selling VirtSpace(tm). There have been some changes to VirtSpace and we DO NOT offer license strings for versions lower than 3.0.1. VirtSpace 3.0.1 supports NeXT, Intel and HP-PA systems running NEXTSTEP 3.2 or higher. We offer end-user, educational, dealer, and user group pricing as well as site licenses and previous owner upgrades. Feel free to contact us at any of the following: NYRO Technix, Inc. 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341 San Francisco CA 94127 415 664-1170 415 664-5530 fax virtspace@nyro.com To order, call 800-664-NYRO (6976) Visa, Mastercard and COD orders accepted. In article <3687s1$st6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) writes: > > A few months ago there was a discussion on how to contact the people who > own VirtSpace. I carefully squirelled away a copy of the answer, and > then in my move from Texas to Michigan, I just a carefully lost it. > > I would appreciate it of somebody could email me and let me know how to > contact Pinnacle (or whoever owns Virtspace). > > Many TIAs. > > - Steve > > -- > ==================================================================== > Stephen Perkins | > Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu > Michigan State University | > > "There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a > boot jack and pulling on its tail." > -- NYRO Technix, Inc. 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341 San Francisco CA 94127 415 664-1170 voice
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Apple buys NeXT?? Say it ain't so, Steve! Date: 29 Sep 1994 05:25:38 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <36dj4i$p7e@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Hi, I heard a particularly nasty rumor from my brother (who happens to own a Mac) that Apple bought out NeXT. I hope to (please insert deity here) that this is *not* true!! If it is, could this truely mean the end??? I honestly cannot imagine a world without NeXTSTEP. -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- The power of UNIX must prevail. The evil Microsoft must be stopped!! -- NeXTStep, the operating system of the future, today. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: Gary Scott <111111.353@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple buys NeXT?? Say it ain't so.. Date: 29 Sep 1994 05:51:52 GMT Organization: CompuServe Message-ID: <36dklo$hi5$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> References: <36dj4i$p7e@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> There have been several posts lately of this rumor that Apple bought NeXT and that it would be in the new MacWorld. I just received the new Macworld and the so called press release is nothing more than an editorial on what the author wished would happen. To make a long story short, the person who started all of this a couple of weeks ago needes to brush up on their reading skills since the disclaimer at the end of the article clearly states that it is mere opinion. Hope this clarifies things. Gary Scott 111111.353@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: The NeXT book of Jobs Message-ID: <Cwv9wM.7Du@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 01:09:57 GMT Sorry about this frivolity, I found this today. Mark The NeXT Book of Jobs ===================== "Now ye shalt hear the wrath of the Lord, for ye hath profaned the holy testament of the sacred disciple of the Lord. Thou shalt curse and spurn the satanic and multi-hued symbol of the apple, for the byte hast been well and truly cast out. There shallt be multiple images display'd by the script of Post, bits shalt number two by two by two by two by two. And a multiplicity of tasks shall be performed by the box of black hue, and this shall be not co-operative, neither. Thy grave'n images shalt be cast out and villified. For lo, the bars of scroll shalt be proportional. Far and whide shall thee be forced to seek the box of pure blackness, and furthur and wider wilt thy be forced to seek the means to embrace the next step." The NeXT Book of Jobs - New testament according to In'Tel. ========================================================= "And it shall come to pass that the unbelievers graven images may be re-worked from the base materials from which they are built. And if device shall be scuzzy then lo, the device may be mounted. The symbol 486/66 shall be not discarded, but be raised up to join the multiple hosts of Job. Many exceptions of the kernal shall be manifest, sore trials of the wretched disciple shall be encounter'd. The satanic workings of the devil b'llgats, though a mockery of the one true way - and despoiled by the great hoards of userbase, may be once again visited. A high price must be shorn from the naked flesh of the true believer, but the way is clear. Go forth and embrace the way of the disciple Jobs, clear from thy mind the vile edifice of the fallen apple and the micro that is soft." -- Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: VirtSpace revisited (NYRO now sells it) Date: 29 Sep 1994 16:18:14 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <36epc6$pas@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <3687s1$st6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <CwvK33.vH@nyro.com> I am a satisfied customer, I don't know what I would do without it! I recommend it to everyone..... Gary >>>> Ian Stewart (ian_stewart@nyro.com) wrote: : NYRO Technix, Inc. is now supporting and selling VirtSpace(tm). : There have been some changes to VirtSpace and we DO NOT offer license : strings for versions lower than 3.0.1. VirtSpace 3.0.1 supports NeXT, : Intel and HP-PA systems running NEXTSTEP 3.2 or higher. We offer end-user, : educational, dealer, and user group pricing as well as site licenses and : previous owner upgrades. : Feel free to contact us at any of the following: : NYRO Technix, Inc. : 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341 : San Francisco CA 94127 : 415 664-1170 : 415 664-5530 fax : virtspace@nyro.com : To order, call 800-664-NYRO (6976) : Visa, Mastercard and COD orders accepted. __________________________________________________________________ gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list __________________________________________________________________
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple buys NeXT?? Say it ain't so.. Date: 29 Sep 1994 16:21:58 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <36epj6$6mq@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <36dj4i$p7e@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <36dklo$hi5$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> <36elni$sbk@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Gregor Hoffleit (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote: : Gary Scott (111111.353@CompuServe.COM) wrote: : : There have been several posts lately of this rumor that Apple bought : : NeXT and that it would be in the new MacWorld. I just received the : : new Macworld and the so called press release is nothing more than an : : editorial on what the author wished would happen. [...] : Wow. Macworld's editor (?) would like to see Apple own rights for : NEXTSTEP! This is really good news, isn't it :-) : Gregor : Nope, because chances are that Apple would buy it simply to eliminate the competition. After that you probably would never hear anything about NeXTSTEP again. That's why I'm thankfull that it's not true!! (WHEW!!) -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- The power of UNIX must prevail. The evil Microsoft must be stopped!! -- NeXTStep, the operating system of the future, today. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: App wanted Date: 29 Sep 1994 14:09:24 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36ehqk$k2s@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Howdy folks! I'm about to post an installer package (and sources) for ppp-2.1.2 for NeXT. Part of this work is a stats program called 'pppstats' that displays running statistics on open links. My reason for posting is that I wish to solicit volunteers who may be willing to write an app wrapper around the code for 'pppstats'. The current interface is text and prints out lines similar to: in pack comp uncomp err VJerr toss ip | out ... 303039 1498 1287 69 1 1 0 1401 | 1166994 ... I think it would be great if there were a NeXT style interface that would possibly animate an icon (similar to load meters) or organize the display into a 'pppstats window'. Since the code for generating the numbers is already written, it should be a rather straightforward wrapper. So if any of you folks would like to practice up on your IB skills, please contact me and maybe we can get something started. Regards, Steve -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University | "There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a boot jack and pulling on its tail."
From: kris@xmission.com (kris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need Simson Garfinkel's email addr Date: 29 Sep 1994 11:35:05 -0600 Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900) Message-ID: <36ets9$i90@xmission.xmission.com> See subject. Email to kris@xmission.com <ASCII only> magnkj@zinc.com <NeXTmail, MIMEmail OK> ...............................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The word may once have been a healthy neural cell. It is now a parasitic organism that invades and damages the central nervous system."
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple buys NeXT?? Say it ain't so.. Date: 29 Sep 1994 15:16:02 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <36elni$sbk@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <36dj4i$p7e@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <36dklo$hi5$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> Gary Scott (111111.353@CompuServe.COM) wrote: : There have been several posts lately of this rumor that Apple bought : NeXT and that it would be in the new MacWorld. I just received the : new Macworld and the so called press release is nothing more than an : editorial on what the author wished would happen. [...] Wow. Macworld's editor (?) would like to see Apple own rights for NEXTSTEP! This is really good news, isn't it :-) Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: premise@bnr.ca (Sean M Willson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Interns || Co-ops under NeXTStep, Do they exist? Date: 29 Sep 1994 10:16:17 -0500 Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <36elo1$at0@crchha78.bnr.ca> -- All NeXT Enthusiasts, I have been searching for some time now for companies in the NeXT market that hire either interns or co-ops. I have yet to recieve a "yes" or a "sometimes" from anyone. My question to you is this: Does any company in the NeXT market utilize or facilitate a way for currently enrolled students in a computer major to obtain experience and possibly a future job in programming under NeXTStep? I hope someone out there can help me with this problem, for if in order to enter the NeXT market, as a programmer, one must first gain experience under MSWindows or the likes, graduating NeXT Enthusiasts are doomed to slurping Microsloth and suffering from VB Blues! Thanks for the Bandwidth, Sean M. Willson Currently enrolled at University of Michigan Ann Arbor pursuing a BS in Computer Engineering. PLEASE SEND REPLYS TO *** premise@umich.edu *** for I cannot recieve mailing inside BNR. /-------------------------------------------------------------/ / Sean M. Willson / "Don't believe in / / premise@umich.edu / miracles, rely on them."/ / / / Currently co-oping with Northern Telcom/BNR / / The opinions expressed here are my own and not those of my / / employer. / /_____________________________________________________________/
From: garlick@ns.scruz.net (Tim Garlick -- Santa Cruz Community Internet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Need a POP mail reader for NeXTstep Date: 29 Sep 1994 21:41:52 GMT Organization: Scruz-Net Distribution: inet Message-ID: <36fcb0$3nk@nic.scruz.net> One of our users is running morningstar software to connect to us via part-time slip. We provide a POPmail account for him, but his software does not support POP. Does anyone have a suggestion for a POPmail client that he can use to collect his mail with? Please reply to me at garlick@scruz.net, as I do not read these groups. Thanks, -Tim Garlick. Scruz-Net admin@scruz.net
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OmniWeb/Image and .xbm Date: 30 Sep 1994 03:06:40 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <36fvc0$h5m@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Has anyone had any success getting OmniWeb and OmniImage to display xbm images? I've come across a few Web pages with .xbm images, and OmniWeb can't display them. I tried opening them with OmniImage, but it couldn't do it either, even though it's apparently a supported image format. I do have OmniImageFilter installed under LocalLibrary/Services with all the right permissions. ImageViewer 0.9i displays .xbm with no problem. comments/suggestions anyone? Thanks alot Eugene Mah -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple buys NeXT?? Say it ain't so.. Date: 30 Sep 1994 04:11:37 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <36g35p$n4c@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <36epj6$6mq@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) writes: > Gregor Hoffleit (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote: > : Wow. Macworld's editor (?) would like to see Apple own rights > : for NEXTSTEP! This is really good news, isn't it :-) > > > Nope, because chances are that Apple would buy it simply to eliminate > the competition. After that you probably would never hear anything > about NeXTSTEP again. Well, I think Gregor has said something true. It would be good news that the editor *wants* Apple to buy NeXT, because that means the editor thinks that there is something significant and worthwhile going on with NeXTSTEP. If Apple actually *bought* NeXT, that might be bad news. The fact that NeXT is considered desirable, however, is good news (even if it's just Guy Kawasaki and the MacWorld editor who consider it desirable, and not Apple itself making serious offers for NeXT). -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrade to latest version of NeXT for Cube ? Date: 30 Sep 1994 10:11:03 GMT Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton Message-ID: <36go7n$h4a@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Hi, Yet another thing to bother you all with, the NeXT Cube that I have got has got NeXT 2.?? installed on it, I would like to upgrade it to NeXT 3.x, has anyone got a copy on NeXT 3.x that they want to get rid of - either on CD or optical. Alternatively where can I get hold og a copy in the UK ? Cheers Rupert E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk URL : http://ilc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/welcome.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jason@jlc.net (Jason T. Nelson) Subject: backup to DAT drive Message-ID: <Cwy64E.786@jlc.net> Organization: John Leslie Consulting Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:41:01 GMT I want to backup my NeXTSTEP 3.1 machine (Intel) so I can install 3.2 on it. But the installation says that it's a good idea to backup before installing NS 3.2, so I decided to backup to the SCSI DAT drive I have. Anybody know how I might go about doing this? Are there any backup utilities for NeXT that support DAT? Jason T. Nelson jason@jlc.net http://www.jlc.net/Local/Jason.html NeXT mail ok!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) Subject: NS3.3 -- How much? Message-ID: <1994Sep30.151616.332@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: uchicago strn fanclub Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 15:16:16 GMT If I were to go out and buy NS3.2 edu now, how much would it cost me to upgrade to 3.3? Is there any reason why I should wait other than having to pay for the upgrade cost as well? Thanks. -Larry -- |ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |--But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe! | |--Well, yes, I do talk to myself sometimes. |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <jkv@sware.com> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 94 09:33:53 -0400 From: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@sware.com> Sender: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@sware.com> Message-ID: <9409301333.AA09334@woof.sware.com> Subject: NeXT-related publications Are there any NeXT-related publications [other than what is provided via the net] that one may subscribe to? If so, can anyone send me subscribtion information such as publishing intervals, prices, contact address/phone number and are they worth reading? thanks in advance Joe Vossen jkv@sware.com
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 30 Sep 94 17:02:51 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.780944571@coricopat> References: <fstiffo-2609941205050001@157.138.55.12> fstiffo@unive.it (Francesco Stiffoni) writes: >I seeking information about the new Canon workstation on intel tecnology. >There is somebody, that uses it, so kind to comunicate to me his >experiences and more technical informations? I'll probably buy one myself when it's out (the Canon Objectstation is not available in Europe yet). A friendly person from Canon was so kind to send me info material which I could fax to you. Other info can be retrieved from the excellent WWW server STEPWISE. Try the search facility to look for e.g. Canon (I happen to have written it, so flame me, not Scott, if things don't work right :-). Ooops, the STEPWISE server can be found at http://digifix.digifix.com/ Rgds, Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Reading pine-generated email on NeXT Date: 30 Sep 1994 17:57:38 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <36hjii$p82@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> There have no doubt been postings about this in the past -- could someone point me towards any information about methods (if any) for decoding email generated by the pine program (those that include attachments, that is) on NeXTs? Thanks. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: vanes002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (John Van Essen) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.games.doom,alt.games.doom.announce,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.games,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.games.computer.doom.* Supersedes: <rec.games.computer.doom-RFD1@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 30 Sep 1994 16:16:58 -0400 Organization: umn.edu Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <rec.games.computer.doom-RFD2@maroon.tc.umn.edu> 2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) rec.games.computer.doom.* [Added .ports group and an explanation why *.id.* is discouraged.] [See the EPILOGUE TO 2ND RFD at the end for comments about changes.] Group Names: rec.games.computer.doom.{announce,help,misc,editing, gameplay,multiplayer,ports} Status: 1 Moderated (announce), 6 Unmoderated Distribution: World Summary: Discussion of the game DOOM and its sequels and add-ons. Replaces alt.games.{doom,doom.announce,doom.newplayers} Proposed By: John Van Essen <vanes002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> With Help From: Contributors in alt.games.doom too numerous to mention. Posting Date: Sep 19 1994 (1st RFD) Posted To: news.announce.newgroups comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action news.groups comp.sys.sgi.misc alt.games.doom.announce comp.sys.next.misc alt.games.doom comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.os2.games Proposed Newsgroup Lines: rec.games.computer.doom.announce Info/FAQs/reviews about DOOM (Moderated) rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (new players welcome) rec.games.computer.doom.misc Talking about DOOM and id Software rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing and hacking DOOM-related files rec.games.computer.doom.gameplay Playing DOOM and user-created levels rec.games.computer.doom.multiplayer Tourneys, opponent ads, config questions rec.games.computer.doom.ports Topics unique to non-DOS ports of DOOM NOTE: The new rec.games.computer and rec.games.computer.doom nodes whose creation is implied here are not newsgroups - no posting intended there. PURPOSE ======= The rec.games.computer.doom hierarchy is for discussing various topics relating to the popular action-oriented computer game DOOM, written by id Software, and its sequels and user-written add-ons. It would also consolidate DOOM-related discussion currently underway in other newsgroups. It is intended for world-wide distribution. This proposal also establishes a new rec.games.computer newsgroup subhierarchy for games that run on general-purpose computers. DISCUSSION ========== The Sep 11 "Top 25 News Groups by number of articles for the last 2 weeks" article in news.lists shows that alt.games.doom currently gets almost 300 articles/day - the 5th-highest posting rate by individuals to a single newsgroup (throwing out the top 3 'newsgroups'): No. of $ Cost % of Cumulative Rank Kbytes Articles per Site Total % of Total Group (Articles/contributor) 1 491023.9 14891 39.30 0.7% 0.7% alt.binaries.pictures.* (4.3) 2 20405.6 7666 20.23 0.4% 1.1% ncar.weather (7666.0) 3 8874.7 5380 14.20 0.3% 1.3% inet (2.0) 4 2982.6 4798 12.66 0.2% 1.6% relcom.commerce.food (6.4) 5 7867.3 4670 12.32 0.2% 1.8% cbd.procurements (1.0) 6 6557.3 4616 12.18 0.2% 2.0% misc.jobs.offered (5.4) 7 8074.9 4531 11.96 0.2% 2.2% rec.games.deckmaster (3.9) 8 4902.9 4071 10.74 0.2% 2.4% alt.games.doom (2.9) An alt.games.doom.announce newsgroup was created after discussion in alt.config, but more splitting is needed for unmoderated topics. Some DOOM-related newsgroups were created without discussion in either alt.games.doom or alt.config and are likely to have poor propagation. Among them are alt.games.doom.newplayers, alt.games.quake, and a few others. DOOM was developed on a NeXT and is being ported to other platforms. Versions exist for the PC (MSDOS/LINUX/QNX), SGI (Irix 5.2), and NeXT, with ports planned or in progress to WINDOWS, OS/2, MAC, JAG, and SEGA. So the potential readership of a DOOM-related newsgroup continues to grow. RATIONALE FOR THE SPLIT ======================= Readers looking for information in specific areas are finding it more and more difficult to sift through the general chatter to find relevant posts. The split allows players to choose topics according to their interests. Someone new to DOOM, for example, might ignore .matches, lurk in .editing, and post to .gameplay. An editor developer might ignore the .gameplay and .multiplayer groups and post to .editing. The split also allows readers who pay for access or who have slow transfer rates to select a subset of the currently undifferentiated articles. This may allow the return of readers who "unsubscribed" due to the high volume. However, if the group is split into too many sub-specialties, it's going to be difficult for someone with wide and varying interests to keep up. There will be no subgroups for binaries. The current alt.binaries.doom newsgroup will suffice. RATIONALE FOR CHOOSING REC.GAMES.COMPUTER.DOOM ============================================== The volume of posting indicates that alt.games.doom is very popular and deserves "promotion" to the Big 7. So in conjunction with the splitting, now is the time to pack up and move. This will better encourage readers to post to the appropriate subgroup than to attempt (and fail) to split alt.games.doom in place. Poorly propagated alt groups won't get used. Many sites don't carry alt groups, so current comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action readers could get more complete DOOM info by reading these Big 7 newsgroups. DOOM is not machine or OS-specific - hence the proposed rec.games location. A possible rec.games.id subhierarchy was discussed, but comments from group-advice strongly advised against a company-based subhierarchy, and recommended the establishment of a rec.games.computer subheirarchy. Hierarchies should be maximally informative and TOPICAL. This means that we try to split up the "namespace" in way that will accomodate the widest possible range of current and future groups. Groups are created for popular topics. It is a very bad precedent to put a given topical newsgroup into a vendor-name hierarchy; this will artificially enhance the odds of less popular products by the same company getting a newsgroup before more popular ones from other companies. Furthermore, in the games industry, there is not as much company name recognition as there is recognition of specific game titles. "Emphasize the obvious." The interest in computer games (DOOM in particular) is growing, and now is a good time to establish a rec.games.computer subhierarchy to gather together computer-based games. There are no machine or OS requirments - only that the game run on a general-purpose type of computer. The few computer-related games already under rec.games will stay put - they will not affected by the creation of rec.games.computer. CHARTERS ======== rec.games.computer.doom.announce Info/FAQs/reviews about DOOM (Moderated) The sort of postings likely to be to be approved by the moderator are general announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of DOOM players. Examples of these types of articles are: - Anything from id Software - New PWAD and LMP announcements - Announcements of new versions of utilities like DEU and DEHACKED - Tourney announcements - FTP site news (downtime, user limits, etc) - FAQs and similarly informative documents - Reviews of user-written PWADs The current moderator of alt.games.doom.announce, Tony Lezard, says that he'd be happy to moderate this newsgroup using the current addresses. Articles would be crossposted to both announce groups for awhile, with the alt group fading out eventually. The addresses are: Submit: doom@mantis.co.uk Contact: doom-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.announce. rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (new players welcome) This unmoderated newsgroup is the headquarters of the DOOM Help Service. Readers new to USENET or to DOOM who post questions here will receive a flame-free friendly response from experienced USENETters and DOOM players. Game setup, hardware problems, modem/network setup, secrets, cheats, how to get DOOM and related utilities are a few examples of suitable topics. Questions about modifying/editing levels belong in the .editing group. This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.newplayers. rec.games.computer.doom.misc Talking about DOOM and id Software Here is where discussion occurs about non-play-related issues that aren't suitable (or only marginally so) for the other subgroups. Examples are FTP issues, ports of DOOM to other systems, piracy, "DOOM - the Movie", DOOM II vs. DOOM, what's the best soundcard, DOOM-related ads, comparisons with other games, magazine articles, people at id and their cars, future id plans. In general, if it isn't about actually playing the game, post it here. rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing and hacking DOOM-related files Discussion here covers modifying the DOOM environment, especially the EXE and WAD files. There are many user-written utilities available that do these types of things. Some authors and experienced users can answer questions about design techniques and using the utilities. Examples of topics are effects of design error (HOM, Medusa), design problems in user-written PWADs, modifying default DOOM behavior, utility enhancements. Questions about playing user-written PWADs (secrets, keys, etc.) should not be posted here - post in .gameplay instead. The doom-editing mailing list (created to escape the noise in a.g.d) perhaps would fold back into this newsgroup or be gatewayed thereto. rec.games.computer.doom.gameplay Playing DOOM and user-created levels Discussion about playing DOOM takes place here (not only about playing id's original levels, but also about playing user-written PWADs). Topics include how to find secrets, keyboard/mouse movement techniques, side-effects of playing DOOM, where to find good PWADS (and which ones are favorites), deathmatch experiences, and so forth. PWAD upload notices can be posted here when not posted in .announce. Non-gameplay-related topics belong in the .misc group. rec.games.computer.doom.multiplayer Tourneys, opponent ads, config questions Here is where to find info about playing DOOM with multiple players. Readers in search of modem/network multi-player (co-op or deathmatch) partners can look here for ads or post their own. Deathmatch tournament announcements, results, and discussion thereof also go here. Difficult problems with connectivity or configurations can be discussed here, too. rec.games.computer.doom.ports Topics unique to non-MSDOS ports of DOOM Users of LINUX, QNX, SGI (Irix 5.2), NeXTSTEP, WINDOWS, OS/2, MAC, JAG, SEGA or any other non-MSDOS version of DOOM can discuss topics unique to those ports that MSDOS-only users wouldn't be interested in or be able to help with. Questions currently posted to the OS- or SYS-specific groups about DOOM should be posted here. CROSSPOSTING AMONG REC.GAMES.COMPUTER.DOOM NEWSGROUPS ===================================================== In general, cross-posting among discussion groups is strongly discouraged. Articles posted to .announce can be cross-posted to other relevant groups. CONSEQUENCES FOR ALT.GAMES.DOOM GROUPS ====================================== Once the rec.games groups are created, there'll be massive cross-posting to the existing alt.games.doom newsgroups until the new newsgroups are created on the participating news servers. About a month after the initial newgroups, cross-posting will be discouraged, and reminders will be posted to the following newsgroups directing them elsewhere: alt.games.doom -> rec.games.computer.doom.misc (mostly) alt.games.doom.newplayers -> rec.games.computer.doom.help alt.games.doom.announce -> rec.games.computer.doom.announce After 6 months, an attempt can be made to rmgroup the alt.games.doom hierarchy if no traffic remains. Given the anarchy in alt, there will be news sites that won't honor the rmgroup, so it will never completely go away. Such is life in USENET. EPILOGUE ======== The discussion period lasts 21 days from the initial post of this RFD. If there are no major objections to the naming or placement, then the CFV (Call For Votes) will be issued, lasting for 22 days. Following the vote, there is a 5 day discussion period after which newsgroups that passed will be newgrouped by the moderator of news.announce.newgroups. This RFD was discussed for about 10 days in alt.games.doom and many suggestions were incorporated, so many issues have already been addressed. Followups to this post are directed to news.groups, which is where further discussion will take place. Cross-posted followups are discouraged. Please read news.groups to participate. EPILOGUE TO 2ND RFD =================== Since each subgroup has its own proponents and is voted on separately, I am inclined to let the voting public determine which groups are kept rather than decide on my own which ones to eliminate from the RFD. The groups that nearly everyone agrees are absolutely neccessary are .announce, .help, .editing, and .misc. Voters can abstain on a group to allow other voters to determine its fate. If .ports, for example, doesn't get enough YES votes from the non-dos users, then out it goes! If not enough people think it's needed, then it isn't. Is the name .ports descriptive enough? .non-dos (or .non-msdos) is too exclusionary - it's customary to emphasize what's INcluded, not what's EXcluded. Suggestions welcome.
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SafetyNet Info Request Date: 30 Sep 1994 22:45:43 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <36i4en$1an@potogold.rmii.com> References: <360llk$e8u@core.symnet.net> In article <360llk$e8u@core.symnet.net> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) writes: :Hi all, : :I missed the beggining of this thread - :what's SafetyNet and were can I get it? : :Thanks, :Steve Here is more info on SafetyNet, as requested. You can get it at OpenSource. SafetyNet A powerful backup and archiving application for NEXTSTEP. SafetyNet provides sophisticated backup and unprecedented restore capabilities with point-and-click simplicity. SafetyNet saves files into archives, maintaining an on-line catalog of each archive's contents that allows you to browse it as easily as you would your hard disk. SafetyNet can retrieve a file in seconds by moving to its precise location in an archive. It gives you complete control over file selection, allowing you to select any combination of files and directories for backup. You can use SafetyNet to perform either complete or incremental backups. Commonly used backup selections can be saved as backup profiles that can be launched from the Workspace Manager or scheduled for later, unattended execution. SafetyNet is available in both Professional and Personal versions. SafetyNet-Professional will back up any mounted UNIX file system (local or NFS). SafetyNet-Personal will back up any locally mounted UNIX file system. Price $149 - Personal $399 - Professional Availability Motorola: Now Intel: Now Developer Systemix Software, Inc. ---- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Reading pine-generated email on NeXT Date: 30 Sep 1994 21:39:34 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <36i0im$fgi@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <36hjii$p82@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> In article <36hjii$p82@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes: > There have no doubt been postings about this in the past -- could someone > point me towards any information about methods (if any) for decoding email > generated by the pine program (those that include attachments, that is) on > NeXTs? The easiest solution is to install pine, and then link ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox into the mail directory. Then you can open the piece of mail in pine to decode it. Alternatively, wait a couple of months for NeXTstep 3.3, which is said to have the capability of reading MIME attachements. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gjackson@mbuna.umhc.umn.edu (Gary Jackson) Subject: Re: Apple buys NeXT?? Say it ain't so, Steve! Message-ID: <Cwyq2r.7Et@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <36dj4i$p7e@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 21:50:53 GMT Gregory John Casamento (gcasa@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : Hi, I heard a particularly nasty rumor from my brother (who happens to own : a Mac) that Apple bought out NeXT. I hope to (please insert deity here) : that this is *not* true!! If it is, could this truely mean the end??? : I honestly cannot imagine a world without NeXTSTEP. Being a former Mac owner, it was easy to tell that the piece in Mac World was a spoof from Guy Kawasaki...former evangelist. I can see where people might be mislead...but it was very funny! -- Gary Jackson gjackson@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu ( Quickest! NeXT Mail Welcome ) gjackson@mbuna.umhc.umn.edu ( Home machine )
From: rdieter@mathlab41 (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: backup to DAT drive Date: 1 Oct 1994 02:43:34 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <36iicm$950@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <Cwy64E.786@jlc.net> Jason T. Nelson (jason@jlc.net) wrote: : I want to backup my NeXTSTEP 3.1 machine (Intel) so I can install 3.2 on it. : But the installation says that it's a good idea to backup before installing : NS 3.2, so I decided to backup to the SCSI DAT drive I have. Anybody know how : I might go about doing this? Are there any backup utilities for NeXT that : support DAT? We're using a combined Black/White hardware NS 3.2 network here, and use a SCSI DAT drive and SafetyNet.app for backups. Peculiar thing though... the DAT drive is recognized only on Black hardware... anyone have an explanation? -- | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate | | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. | ---------------------------------------------------------------- |#include<have_a_nice_day.h> | Nuthin but InterNet |
From: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP/Sparc questions Date: 1 Oct 1994 07:42:12 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <36j3sk$b39@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Summary: A few quesitons about NEXTSTEP/Sun Keywords: NEXTSTEP,Sun,SPARC I have heard that NEXTSTEP/Sun is still due to be released "1st quarter 1995". Is this still true? Is there any news of when PR1 is going to be available? Is there going to be any kind of multiple-monitor support now or in the near future for NS/Sun? (i'm not even sure what Suns are capable of exactly regarding multiple monitors) -- David Jeske(N9LCA)/CompEng Student at Univ of Ill at Cham-Urbana/NeXT Programmer CoCreator of the GTalk Chat Software System - online at (708)998-0008 jeske@uiuc.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 1 Oct 1994 16:05:13 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <36k1bp$9td@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <neuss.780944571@coricopat> In article <neuss.780944571@coricopat> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) writes: > I'll probably buy one myself when it's out (the Canon Objectstation > is not available in Europe yet). Are they available *anywhere* yet? There were quite a number of them actually running at the Expo over 3 months ago, but I've not seen a single posting from anyone who's actually received one. If Canon waits much longer to release them, they'll have to redesign them to use the latest Intel CPU because the DX/4 [sic] will be out of production :-) --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS3.3 -- How much? Date: 1 Oct 1994 16:08:53 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <36k1il$9ud@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1994Sep30.151616.332@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <1994Sep30.151616.332@midway.uchicago.edu> ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: > If I were to go out and buy NS3.2 edu now, how much would it cost me to > upgrade to 3.3? REGISTERED DEVELOPER & CONSULTANT MONTHLY UPDATE: SEPTEMBER 1994 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*++*+*+ 4. NEW NEXTSTEP PRICING Effective October 1, 1994 the following NEXTSTEP product price changes will be in effect: UPGRADES NEXTSTEP User upgrade for Intel and Motorola $199 NEXTSTEP Developer upgrade for Intel and Motorola $799 LIST PRICE NEXTSTEP User for Intel, Motorola, and HP PA-RISC $799 NEXTSTEP Developer for Intel, Motorola, and HP PA-RISC $2999 Please contact 1-800-848-6398 with questions regarding pricing. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 1 Oct 1994 18:37:58 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <36kaa6$84a@news.iastate.edu> References: <neuss.780944571@coricopat> <36k1bp$9td@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote: : In article <neuss.780944571@coricopat> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) : writes: : > I'll probably buy one myself when it's out (the Canon Objectstation : > is not available in Europe yet). : Are they available *anywhere* yet? There were quite a number of them I think they're already available. I received some information from OpenSource about the Objectstation. E-mail OpenSource to find out what they can help. Their e-mail address seems to be info@opensource.com (Not real sure >:) Chris : actually running at the Expo over 3 months ago, but I've not seen a single : posting from anyone who's actually received one. If Canon waits much : longer to release them, they'll have to redesign them to use the latest : Intel CPU because the DX/4 [sic] will be out of production :-) : --- : Art Isbell Cubic Solutions : NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting : NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 : USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: michael@mmgraph.com\ (Michael Rutchik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 1 Oct 1994 21:37:05 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <36kkq1$26q@nntp.crl.com> References: <36kaa6$84a@news.iastate.edu> > : actually running at the Expo over 3 months ago, but I've not seen a single posting from anyone who's actually received one. If Canon waits much longer to release them, they'll have to redesign them to use the latest Intel CPU because the DX/4 [sic] will be out of production :-) Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515 I've been using a small network of object.stations connected to a Sparc20 server for about 2 weeks now. The performance of these systems has far outstripped my expectations. The only limitation of these systems was their limited resolution capability. Because a couple of us in the department needed full blown graphic design systems, I also had PARS International build us a couple of Pentium90/PCI systems. These systems perform admirably running 1200x1024x16 (76Mhz) on a 21" RasterOps monitor and 1120x832x32 on a 17" Sony. Sure is nice having all that screen real-estate since NS can put it to such great use. The PARS systems set at the higher resolution, seem just as fast as the object.stations. This is not to say the object.stations. don't handle graphics well. At 1120x900x16 (76Mhz) on the Canon monitor, using Virtuoso, Tiffany, Tailor and previewing large eps/tiff files is a very pleasant experience. One of the object.stations is a stand-alone machine with a SLIP connection (ZyXEL u-1496). A few days ago I installed the Mux Driver and was able to double my Net access speed. OmniWeb, NewsGrazer, GatorFTP and RBrowser all seem very happy on this new box. Overall the performance of all these systems is superb. But, having been an all Mac department just over a year ago, perhaps I'm more easily impressed. Michael Rutchik michael@mmgraph.com
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.msdos.desqview,comp.windows.x.misc Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Message-ID: <941001.105559.1J1.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 10:55:59 -0600 References: <1994Sep22.115340.27626@cc.usu.edu> <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu> Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu (David A. Johnson) writes: >>>Is there a NeXT pacakage that letes you run Windows in a NeXT window >>>remotely like NXHost or XHost? > > Now your really dreaming! If a package existed like that (and was stable) > I'd buy half a dozen copies at almost any cost! have you seen DesqView/X ads lately? they do it for X, which you can run on a NeXT. I haven't seen a DesqView/NX, though :-) -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: aaron@tbyte.com (Aaron Greene) Subject: Re: backup to DAT drive Message-ID: <1994Oct1.223415.2926@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: RRZN References: <36iicm$950@crcnis1.unl.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 22:34:15 GMT In article <36iicm$950@crcnis1.unl.edu> rdieter@mathlab41 (Rex Dieter) writes: > We're using a combined Black/White hardware NS 3.2 network here, > and use a SCSI DAT drive and SafetyNet.app for backups. > Peculiar thing though... the DAT drive is recognized only on Black > hardware... anyone have an explanation? > I was having a problem installing Animo animation software from our Exabyte onto a white next machine. I fiddled and cursed for weeks until I realized I had not activated the SCSI Tape Driver in Configure.app. After I did that it went the first time. So, check your configure.app on white, that is probably the culprit. Thanks, Aaron Greene Net Admin - Trilobyte aaron@tbyte.com
From: nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: VirtSpace revisited Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sat, 01 Oct 1994 21:26:25 -0800 Organization: Western Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <nickj-011094212625@port54.annex1.net.ubc.ca> References: <3687s1$st6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> In article <3687s1$st6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins) wrote: > > A few months ago there was a discussion on how to contact the people who > own VirtSpace. I carefully squirelled away a copy of the answer, and > then in my move from Texas to Michigan, I just a carefully lost it. > > I would appreciate it of somebody could email me and let me know how to > contact Pinnacle (or whoever owns Virtspace). > > Many TIAs. > > - Steve the company is Nyro and the telephone number is:414 664-1170. Nyro is moving their offices closer to Cannon in Portland. so leave a msg. They also have UUCP_EZ, faxcess, OnVacation... -- Nick Jacquet nickj@prime.wimsey.com Prime ConneXtion Systems Vancouver, BC
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 3 Oct 1994 03:52:29 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36nv5t$g9b@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <36k1bp$9td@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In article <36k1bp$9td@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > Are they available *anywhere* yet? There were quite a number of them > actually running at the Expo over 3 months ago, but I've not seen a single > posting from anyone who's actually received one. I received a call from Bret Gutza (sp?) to correct some information in a post I made a month or two ago. I've since sent several email requests attempting to schedule a demo system for many interested folks around here, but Canon has ignored all this potential business. It looks like a nice system, but some folks aren't going to purchase without trying it hands-on for the asking price. -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 3 Oct 1994 00:32:33 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <36o1h1$f1j@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ or http://digifix.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- news://comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news://comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. news://comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news://comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news://comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news://comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news://comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news://comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news://comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news://comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-848-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com) and Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Clip art Date: 3 Oct 1994 08:47:46 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Distribution: world Message-ID: <36ogfi$b4k@marble.Britain.EU.net> Hi all - Does anyone know where I can find some clip art of countries? I'm looking for USA, australia, europe, japan, NZ, canada, and mexico that I can place in Diagram. Does anyone know of an FTP site or disk that might be of help? Appreciated. C. -- ********************************************* Charles Ashley Learned Information Ltd. charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...) *********************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: SMP and NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <rfenney-031094010003@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: FenTek Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 08:01:14 GMT Does NeXT plan to provide a version of NeXTSTEP for intel that will provide for SMP systems? I am looking at perchasing either a 2 or four CPU PENTIUM and would like to develop in NeXTSTEP on it. I will also be developing OS\2 apps and would love to do my initial development under NeXTSTEP. Anyone know anything???? Thanks, Robert
From: jfb@tequila Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Page layout defaults Date: 03 Oct 94 11:27:34 Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <jfb.94Oct3112734@tequila> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I'll like to set Page layout = a4 as default values for Edit, Term etc. I can't find out how to do this. Any help should be appreciated. email prefered thanks --- Jean-FranÛois Boisvieux jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr CHU PitiÝ-SalpÝtriÜre. Paris NeXTMail OK (33) 1 45 86 19 98 (voice) (33) 1 45 83 87 20 (fax)
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: backup to DAT drive Date: 3 Oct 1994 11:02:29 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <36okrl$8mh@marsu.s.bawue.de> References: <Cwy64E.786@jlc.net> <36iicm$950@crcnis1.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit rdieter@mathlab41 (Rex Dieter) writes: >We're using a combined Black/White hardware NS 3.2 network here, >and use a SCSI DAT drive and SafetyNet.app for backups. >Peculiar thing though... the DAT drive is recognized only on Black >hardware... anyone have an explanation? Did you load the SCSI tape driver with Configure.app on white hardware? -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 3 Oct 1994 17:08:41 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> References: <36nv5t$g9b@news.ycc.yale.edu> In article <36nv5t$g9b@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: :In article <36k1bp$9td@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) :writes: : :> Are they available *anywhere* yet? There were quite a number of them :> actually running at the Expo over 3 months ago, but I've not seen a single :> posting from anyone who's actually received one. : :I received a call from Bret Gutza (sp?) to correct some :information in a post I made a month or two ago. I've since :sent several email requests attempting to schedule a :demo system for many interested folks around here, but :Canon has ignored all this potential business. It looks :like a nice system, but some folks aren't going to :purchase without trying it hands-on for the asking :price. Canon is totally dedicated to the NEXTSTEP market, promoting their object.station41 to this market exclusively. They are still in the process, however, of building a solid channel for their "intel workstation". They do not want to support the single unit buyer, preferring to focus on corporate accounts. OpenSource and a number of other qualified NEXTSTEP resellers are available to answer questions about the object.station 41 from individual and small business users of NEXTSTEP. Contact your favorite reseller for more info. Also, there is also detailed information about Canon's object.station41 available on the StepWise server at the following location: http://digifix.digifix.com/Resellers/OpenSource.htmld/index.html Please give us a call or drop us a line at info@opensource.com to request more info. This machine lives up to its billing! -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fax-Modem on HP 712 Date: 3 Oct 1994 17:21:30 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <36peiq$t74@potogold.rmii.com> References: <36b7ff$e2j@taloa.unice.fr> In article <36b7ff$e2j@taloa.unice.fr> chris@quetzal.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian) writes: : :Does anyone tell me what to do for this : : : I've a HP Gecko with a Hayes compatible modem (it's a fax modem :and I've the programs to use it with Window). I know the Hayes commands to :send to the modem to fax. I've tried to configure with PrintManager my :"NeXT station" with the two known fax configurations : InterFax and HSD :Fax. But there is no result, no Fax is sended. Is there a configuration :file to modify or to add, or ??? ? : : If you have suggestions, please send at this address, Thank. There was a thread a while back that suggested that HP9000 series 700 machines running NEXTSTEP where unable to use their serial port. Have you explored this possibility? Sincerely, Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) *My opinions only
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT-related publications Date: 3 Oct 1994 17:35:41 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> References: <9409301333.AA09334@woof.sware.com> In article <9409301333.AA09334@woof.sware.com> "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@sware.com> writes: : :Are there any NeXT-related publications [other than what is provided :via the net] that one may subscribe to? If so, can anyone send me :subscribtion information such as publishing intervals, prices, :contact address/phone number and are they worth reading? : :thanks in advance : :Joe Vossen :jkv@sware.com There are two NEXTSTEP publications that I know of: NEXT IN LINE This magazine is published independently by Robert Wyatt. It is a quarterly publication. Their plan is to direct mail their magazines to NEXT-specific mailing lists to get the word out. Also, they had a significant presence at NEXTSTEP EXPO. Subscriptions are $24 per year and you can reach them at the below number. Next in line PO Box 392 Berryville, VA 22611 703-955-5045 OPENSTEP SOLUTIONS: This magazine is published quarterly as a supplement by SIGS with the assistance of NEXT. It is bundled with The Journal of Object Oriented Programming and Object Magazine. They are also (supposedly) going to target former NEXTWORLD subscribers. I have a copy of their magazine on my desk, but it has no subscriber information in it. Perhaps you can only get the supplement with the whole magazine. Below is the only address I could find: OpenStep Solutions PO box 2031 Langhorne, PA 19047-9700 FAX: 215-785-6073 -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Message-ID: <CwyrA0.FwJ@agedwards.com> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 22:17:59 GMT References: <1994Sep22.115340.27626@cc.usu.edu> <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu> Organization: A.G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. In article <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu>, David A. Johnson <dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu> wrote: > >>>Is there a NeXT pacakage that letes you run Windows in a NeXT window >>>remotely like NXHost or XHost?? Semmes to me It would be a money maker >>>espcially if it could do X,Mac and Windows. > >Now your really dreaming! If a package existed like that (and was stable) >I'd buy half a dozen copies at almost any cost! If what you want to do is run a Windows application on machine A, but have the display go to the display hooked up to machine B, then I think you might be out of luck in a big way. In order for that to happen there would have to be some sort of protocol to allow for an app to "connect" to a display and push drawing commands to it. Conversely, events would have to go from a display back to the app. Such a protocol might exist somewhat in some of the PC remote utilities. However, since the source to these is generally a closely-guarded secret, I have no way of knowing if they are truly a protocol or simply the passing of standard Windows calls across some sort of link. In order for this to work reliably for all applications, there would have to be some sort of published and semi-standard protocol, as well. Unfortunately, the Mac suffers from this as well. This area is one in which both X and DPS excel; both are intrinsically designed to have a networked architecture. X is, first and foremost, a protocol. DPS defines a language, and the language defines a binary protocol. Of course, there's other problems associated with running Windows or Macintosh apps somewhere else and pushing their respective output back to your screen: how do you rlogin to a Windows PC or a Mac? Last I heard, you couldn't. Anyway, it really *is* a nice idea, but participation just isn't there from the major players... -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: Fax-Modem on HP 712 Message-ID: <Cx3zJ2.KqF@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <36peiq$t74@potogold.rmii.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 18:04:14 GMT In article <36peiq$t74@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > In article <36b7ff$e2j@taloa.unice.fr> chris@quetzal.unice.fr (Taggiasco > Christian) writes: > : > :Does anyone tell me what to do for this : > : > : I've a HP Gecko with a Hayes compatible modem (it's a fax modem > :and I've the programs to use it with Window). I know the Hayes commands > to > :send to the modem to fax. I've tried to configure with PrintManager my > :"NeXT station" with the two known fax configurations : InterFax and HSD > :Fax. But there is no result, no Fax is sended. Is there a configuration > :file to modify or to add, or ??? ? > : > : If you have suggestions, please send at this address, Thank. > Don't waste your time. The out of the box fax drivers only support two esoteric fax modems. To use any _real_ fax modems, you have to go out and buy additional driver softare (~$130). If NeXT would get off their butts and document the fax interface, I personally would put in some to write some drivers that people could actualy use! Nothing makes me more angry that his pathetic excuse for integrating fax capabilities into the system. later jay *********************************** Jason Bright Ingenia Communications Corporation jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca
From: srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Date: 3 Oct 1994 21:50:05 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <36puad$2ki@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <1994Sep22.115340.27626@cc.usu.edu> <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu> <CwyrA0.FwJ@agedwards.com> In article <CwyrA0.FwJ@agedwards.com>, Chris Cleeland <cleelacj@agedwards.com> wrote: >In article <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu>, >David A. Johnson <dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu> wrote: >> >>>>Is there a NeXT pacakage that letes you run Windows in a NeXT window >>>>remotely like NXHost or XHost?? Semmes to me It would be a money maker >>>>espcially if it could do X,Mac and Windows. >> >>Now your really dreaming! If a package existed like that (and was stable) >>I'd buy half a dozen copies at almost any cost! > [good response chomped] What about doing something such as: "localhost> open softpc -NXHost foo" Could you run softpc on one machine, and display it on another? just a thought, -rosie
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fax-Modem on HP 712 Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:23:56 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <36q7as$3lp@potogold.rmii.com> References: <Cx3zJ2.KqF@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <Cx3zJ2.KqF@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) writes: :In article <36peiq$t74@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett :L. Rice) writes: :> In article <36b7ff$e2j@taloa.unice.fr> chris@quetzal.unice.fr (Taggiasco :> Christian) writes: :> : :> :Does anyone tell me what to do for this : :> : :> : I've a HP Gecko with a Hayes compatible modem (it's a fax modem :> :and I've the programs to use it with Window). I know the Hayes commands :> to :> :send to the modem to fax. I've tried to configure with PrintManager my :> :"NeXT station" with the two known fax configurations : InterFax and HSD :> :Fax. But there is no result, no Fax is sended. Is there a configuration :> :file to modify or to add, or ??? ? :> : :> : If you have suggestions, please send at this address, Thank. :> : : Don't waste your time. The out of the box fax drivers only :support two esoteric fax modems. To use any _real_ fax modems, you have to :go out and buy additional driver softare (~$130). : If NeXT would get off their butts and document the fax interface, :I personally would put in some to write some drivers that people could :actualy use! Nothing makes me more angry that his pathetic excuse for :integrating fax capabilities into the system. : :later :jay :*********************************** :Jason Bright :Ingenia Communications Corporation :jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca The drivers Jason is referring to are the NXFax Drivers from Black & White software. They have, generally, done a remarkable job with their product, supporting a large number of modems and allowing for automatic switching between incoming data and fax calls. -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: rrn@po.CWRU.Edu (Robert R. Novitskey) Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone got OS/2 and NeXT running on the same machine??? Date: 3 Oct 1994 23:40:32 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <36q4pg$1lb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hello: I was wondering if anyone has managed to get OS/2 and NeXT on the same machine using some sort of Boot Manager? If so, who's boot manager did you end up using, NeXT's or OS/2's? Thanks, BoB
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Video Storage Requirements Message-ID: <1994Oct3.173717.1910@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 17:37:17 GMT How much does storage does video take up. On average how much would 5 minutes of video eat up? How about per frame? This would be using NEXTTIME for playback, I guess. THanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: xcarn@mcmuse.mc.maricopa.edu (Michael Carnright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: weighted graphs App Date: 4 Oct 1994 02:10:12 GMT Organization: Maricopa Community Colleges Message-ID: <36qdi4$g4c@names.maricopa.edu> -- I am interested it finding a NeXT Application that will visualize cyclic weighted graphs. Is there a NeXT App like that? I found some for X-Windows in linux so I believe that there should be one for NeXT STEP. The programs in linux are: nauty, CATbox, gap, graphED, leda, daVinci, and graph. Thank you in advance:) xcarn@mcmuse.mc.maricopa.edu Some madness is the divinest sense to a discerning eye... Emily Dickenson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Subject: Re: VirtSpace revisited Message-ID: <Cx2F1L.KI@nyro.com> Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software. References: <nickj-011094212625@port54.annex1.net.ubc.ca> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 21:44:08 GMT In article <nickj-011094212625@port54.annex1.net.ubc.ca> nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet) writes: > the company is Nyro and the telephone number is:414 664-1170. > Nyro is moving their offices closer to Cannon in Portland. so leave a msg. > They also have UUCP_EZ, faxcess, OnVacation... > > -- > Nick Jacquet > nickj@prime.wimsey.com > Prime ConneXtion Systems > Vancouver, BC Thank you Nick for the referral. I just wanted to let you know that our phone number is 415-664-1170 or 800-664-NYRO(6976). ^ -- NYRO Technix, Inc. 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341 San Francisco CA 94127 415 664-1170 voice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) Subject: Re: NeXT-related publications Message-ID: <1994Oct4.061843.2044@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 06:18:43 GMT In article <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: [snip] > > There are two NEXTSTEP publications that I know of: > > NEXT IN LINE > This magazine is published independently by Robert Wyatt. It is a > quarterly publication. Their plan is to direct mail their magazines to > NEXT-specific mailing lists to get the word out. Also, they had a > significant presence at NEXTSTEP EXPO. Subscriptions are $24 per year and > you can reach them at the below number. > > Next in line > PO Box 392 > Berryville, VA 22611 > 703-955-5045 Actually, I think its published every other month. Rick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) Subject: Re: NeXT-related publications Message-ID: <Cx5n1H.DMp@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs References: <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> <1994Oct4.061843.2044@ToTSySSoft.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 15:29:40 GMT rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) writes: >In article <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett >L. Rice) writes: >[snip] >> >> There are two NEXTSTEP publications that I know of: >> >> NEXT IN LINE >> This magazine is published independently by Robert Wyatt. It is a >> quarterly publication. Their plan is to direct mail their magazines to >> NEXT-specific mailing lists to get the word out. Also, they had a >> significant presence at NEXTSTEP EXPO. Subscriptions are $24 per year >and >> you can reach them at the below number. >> >> Next in line >> PO Box 392 >> Berryville, VA 22611 >> 703-955-5045 >Actually, I think its published every other month. >Rick Actually, I think they *planned* to publish every other month but issue one was out in June and I have yet to receive issue two. Am I the only one not to receive issue two? --Tim -- Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Video Storage Requirements Message-ID: <1994Oct4.191459.7893@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1994Oct3.173717.1910@weston.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 19:14:59 GMT In article <1994Oct3.173717.1910@weston.com> jspears@weston.com writes: >>How much does storage does video take up. On average how much would 5 >>minutes of video eat up? How about per frame? >> >>This would be using NEXTTIME for playback, I guess. >> If things were only that simple... What resolution? What frame rate? What artifacts are acceptable? What machine (i.e. CPU power) will be doing the playback? Is there sound? What codecs do you have available for compression/decompression? How will the video be captured? What will the playback media (CD, disk, network, etc.) be? No matter what the answer to the above questions is, the answer is going to resemble "a lot". As a ball park guesstimate, it would probably be on the order of 75MB to 300MB, although it could easily go much higher (assuming the 5 minutes you mentioned), depending on the answers to the first set of questions. Welcome to the bandwidth eatin' world o digital video... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Video Storage Requirements Date: 4 Oct 1994 17:47:52 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <36s4g8$ql@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Oct3.173717.1910@weston.com> Keywords: NEXTIME, video, compression In article <1994Oct3.173717.1910@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: > How much does storage does video take up. On average how much would 5 > minutes of video eat up? How about per frame? > > This would be using NEXTTIME for playback, I guess. It depends on the compression strategy, frames per second, desired quality, and playback size. Compression Strategy In general, interframe, or temporal compression will reduce the data rate by a factor of 2-4. This technique uses key frames which contain a complete video frame placed periodically through a movie, along with difference frames which hold only changes between video frames. Compression formats which can support interframe compresion include Cinepak and NeXT's own MicroWavelet compression. Unfortunately, interframe compression makes editing more difficult. All cuts have to start with a key frame, and must be inserted immediately before a key frame in the destination. In general, editing is best done with video that is not interframe compressed. (That's why Motion JPEG is used in hardware assisted editing suites instead of true MPEG.) Frames per Second: Lower frame rates will require less data per second than higher frame rates. Curiously, the use of interframe compression affects this. With high frame rates, there are fewer differences between frames, and interframe compression produces higher compression ratios. It's not enough to overcome the higher data rate, but it's slightly better than what one would expect from linear scaling of the data rate. Desired quality and Frame Size As one would expect, higher quality and frame size require higher data rates. Some forms of spatial compression (notably wavelets) can take advantage of the additional information redundancy in a larger frame, producing slightly better compression than one would expect from just scaling the number of pixels. Rule-O-Thumb for Data Rates: Everything ultimately boils down to how many bits per pixel your compression strategy gets. From this, you can estimate the compressed data per frame. Given frames per second, you can estimate the data rate, and ultimately the size a given movie will occupy. Some VERY rough numbers, assuming a clean video source and a modern lossy compression scheme: Compression Quality High Medium Low Spatial Only 4 2 1 bits/pixel Temporal 2 1 0.5 bits/pixel A medium quality movie with interframe, or temporal compression, would require roughly one bit per pixel. A 320 x 240 (CIF) format picture has 76800 pixels, and would compress to 76800 bits, or 9600 bytes. At 12 frames/second, this would give a compressed data rate of 115,200 bytes/second, or 112.5 Kbytes/second (1K = 1024). A 5 minute clip would require roughly 33750 Kbytes of space. Adding a sound track expands this somewhat. Mike Paquette ====== I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal... mpaque@NeXT.COM NeXT business mail only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please "It's a bad neighborhood, but the rent is cheap."
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT-related publications Date: 4 Oct 1994 20:41:37 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <36sem1$bt0@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <Cx5n1H.DMp@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Tim Pugh writes ) Actually, I think they *planned* to publish every other month but issue ) one was out in June and I have yet to receive issue two. Am I the only ) one not to receive issue two? Originally is was to be every month, during the early planning, but even before the first issue was printed we decided to go every other month in order to produce a bigger magazine and cut costs. (It is cheaper to add 16 pages to an issue and mail one issue than to cut it in half and do two mailings.) There were other factors as well, but the end result was that we felt a bimonthly distribution would be more practical--and more useful for the readership. If the market grow to the point where a monthly distribution is practical, then you can expect that change to be made at that time, I would think. Issue two should be getting to people "any time now". There are copies here in Provo as of today... :-) And it looks a heck of a lot better than the first issue. (Of course, we are making more improvements in issue #3, too...) Those who have sent in suggestions to us should be pleased to see some of the changes. Note that issue #2 is Sept/Oct, too, so you should get it sometime in the middle of that time period. We are trying to move the schedule forward a bit, but have run into the occasional little snag here and there which has made this issue later than we intended. I think Rob's recent posting on this explains it pretty well. By the way, I don't actually speak for NEXT IN LINE; this is entirely from my own perspective. Look to Rob Wyatt for authoritative info! -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: begonia@zebu.abstractsoft.com (Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT-related publications Date: 4 Oct 1994 14:16:11 -0700 Organization: Abstract Software Message-ID: <36sgmr$bt@zebu.abstractsoft.com> References: <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> <1994Oct4.061843.2044@ToTSySSoft.com> <Cx5n1H.DMp@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> In article <Cx5n1H.DMp@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes: > >Actually, I think they *planned* to publish every other month but issue >one was out in June and I have yet to receive issue two. Am I the only >one not to receive issue two? > --Tim > >-- >Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services >tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane > |Laurel, MD 20708-1355 >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ We do plan to publish every other month *starting* with Issue #2. Issue #2 was supposed to be out mid-September but it got delayed in the printing process. Issue #2 was mailed out to all subscribers yesterday and we're doing another big mailing to a couple of NEXTSTEP lists as well. We're trying out a local printer so we, hopefully, won't have these kinds of problems again. Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush Managing Editor/Ad Rep NEXT IN LINE sjkb@abstractsoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) Subject: NeXT Computer names? Message-ID: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: uchicago strn fanclub Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 21:05:06 GMT Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my Intel Tower? -Larry. -- |ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |--But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe! | |--Well, yes, I do talk to myself sometimes. |
From: sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com (Steve McDowall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problem getting past SLIP server. Date: 4 Oct 1994 23:45:58 GMT Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <36spfm$erg@slowhand.nmb.com> References: <9409271423.AA02636@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Well, my best guess is that your default route is not directed to the slip server.. do a "netstat -nr" and see if you have a default route, if you do, where does it point?? If you don't have a default route, best to add one.. route add default x.x.x.x 1 Where x.x.x.x is the slip server (of course)... If you have a default route, but it is not the slip server, delete the old route route delete default x.x.x.x and add a new one as above Hope this helps and is applicable.. -- Steven J. McDowall ATT: 515 221-4286 sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Date: 5 Oct 1994 02:29:45 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36t32p$9jn@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: -> Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the -> NeXTStations called slabs, and presumably that name -> applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my Intel -> Tower? Ugly? Uninspiring? A Necessary Evil? ;-) -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lettau@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Martin Lettau) Subject: NS on Dell Pentium - HELP! Message-ID: <1994Oct4.170019.27659@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 17:00:19 GMT Hi folks, I am having trouble installin NS on a Dell Omniplex 590 Pentium machine. If anybody has installed NS successfully on such a machine, I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Martin Lettau
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hill@salab1.psych.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Message-ID: <Oct5.040619.30295@acs.ucalgary.ca> Sender: david hill Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 04:06:19 GMT References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: U of Calgary Keywords: Next, names In article <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu>, E. Larry Lidz <ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote: >Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, >and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my >Intel Tower? > >-Larry. "Gates" perhaps? ;-) >-- >|ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >|--But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe! | >|--Well, yes, I do talk to myself sometimes. | -- David R. Hill, CS Dept., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315| important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fx: 403-282-6778| (Albert Einstein) NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred) | Kill your television!
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Date: 05 Oct 1994 07:38:25 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <ERNEST.94Oct5003825@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> In-reply-to: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu's message of Tue, 4 Oct 1994 21:05:06 GMT E. Larry Lidz writes: Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my Intel Tower? There are no official nicknames for white hardware; I haven't found anyone sufficiently fond of them to generate terms of affection! However, for your configuration, the only appropriate term is: Ivory Tower (at least if you use it in Education :-) -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest Ph.D. student, High Energy Physics NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: nelsonr@mars.eecs.umich.edu (Nelson R. Manohar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplacecomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardware Subject: better, nicer keyboard needed Date: 5 Oct 1994 07:56:29 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <36tm7d$m34@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Keywords: keyboard next Hi, I have a NeXTStation TurboColor and use its standard keyboard, but after about a year of heavy use, I am starting to develop strong pain in my finger junctions. It is not getting any better and after a while I started to believe that the keyboard is being way to hard on my fingers. Is there a soft touch keyboard that is compatible with this next? I will like to use or try other keyboards. Are there catalogs were I can find these? thanks nelson manohar nelsonr@engin.umich.edu -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FYI;"!4:6UE<RU2;VUA;CM]"EQM M87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@U-C!<='@Q,3(P7'1X,38X,%QT M>#(R-#!<='@R.#`P7'1X,S,V,%QT>#,Y,C!<='@T-#@P7'1X-3`T,%QT>#4V M,#!<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,CA<9F,P7&-F,"!(:2P@22!H879E(&$@ M3F585%-T871I;VX@5'5R8F]#;VQO<B!A;F0@=7-E(&ET<R!S=&%N9&%R9"!K M97EB;V%R9"P@8G5T(&%F=&5R7`IA8F]U="!A('EE87(@;V8@:&5A=GD@=7-E M+"!)(&%M('-T87)T:6YG('1O(&1E=F5L;W`@<W1R;VYG('!A:6X@:6X@;7E< M"F9I;F=E<B!J=6YC=&EO;G,N($ET(&ES(&YO="!G971T:6YG(&%N>2!B971T M97(@86YD(&%F=&5R(&$@=VAI;&4@22!S=&%R=&5D('1O(%P*8F5L:65V92!T M:&%T('1H92!K97EB;V%R9"!I<R!B96EN9R!W87D@=&\@:&%R9"!O;B!M>2!F M:6YG97)S+B!<"EP*27,@=&AE<F4@82!S;V9T('1O=6-H(&ME>6)O87)D('1H M870@:7,@8V]M<&%T:6)L92!W:71H('1H:7,@;F5X=#\@22!W:6QL(&QI:V4@ M=&\@=7-E(%P*;W(@=')Y(&]T:&5R(&ME>6)O87)D<RX@07)E('1H97)E(&-A M=&%L;V=S('=E<F4@22!C86X@9FEN9"!T:&5S93]<"EP*=&AA;FMS7`IN96QS G;VX@;6%N;VAA<B!<"FYE;'-O;G)`96YG:6XN=6UI8V@N961U"GT* `
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Date: 5 Oct 94 09:48:53 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.781350533@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> <36t32p$9jn@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: >-> what do I call my Intel Tower? >Ugly? Uninspiring? A Necessary Evil? ;-) Come and see my cute Intel Pentium Cube and change your attitude! :-) Markus. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where is Neil Greene? Date: 5 Oct 1994 06:58:48 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410051156.AA02551@cantina.lanl.gov> I have been on the road for three weeks (i.e., not reading the c.s.n.* news), so this may be a well-discussed topic by now. The software-buyer for the University of Maryland bookstore has been unable to locate Neil Greene (TIFFany and Benchmark Systems, Lexington KY). Has he translated to a new phone number? Or, can someone remind me of his e-mail address? Please respond to me by e-mail (to silbar@cantina.lanl.gov) since I'm still on the road and still not reading the news. Thanks. Dick Silbar
From: jtodd@redfox.fox-den.com (John Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Date: 5 Oct 1994 13:52:02 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <36ub22$o3c@news1.digex.net> References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: > Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, > and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my > Intel Tower? > > -Larry. > -- > |ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes | > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > |--But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe! | > |--Well, yes, I do talk to myself sometimes. | An English student friend of mine noted that "Cube" and "Slab" were two items in a play by Tom Stoppard (? I think. I'm going on non-English student memory here :) where there were three items that were used in a surreal discussion of naming. "Cube," "Slab," and "Brick" were the terms used to describe three objects that looked like a cube, a slab, and a brick. What the players were actually doing was using the word "cube" to mean "1", "slab" to mean "2", and "brick" to mean "3" but the audience would assume that they were speaking about the physical properties of the objects, and not the number. Kind of bizzare, from what I remember. Anyway, I find it hard to believe that someone at NeXT has never heard of this naming scheme or applied it to their machines, because I very distinctly remember that the Nitro was called (on the net at least) a "brick" and the chances for that happening without planning are fairly slim. John Todd jtodd@fox-den.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Message-ID: <Cx7DxF.K5I@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:08:01 GMT In article <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: > Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, > and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my > Intel Tower? Babel? -- personal opinions
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Known FEATURES in 3.x Date: 5 Oct 1994 10:36:04 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> We're on a primarily NeXT system here at Allegheny, and last year we started a list of little features that are not self-evident. Some of these would have been nice to have known a while ago. So I thought I would post them and see if anyone had any additions. If so, please email me (luomat@alleg.edu) or follow-up. I am not sure if all of these work with less than 3.0. The ones that I _know_ only work with a specific level I have so marked. Thanks TjL ps -- these are not all mine... in fact, most of them I just copied down. ================================================================ 1) Hold down a command key and double-click any application icon to hide everything except the application that was double-clicked. ================================================================ 2) Holding down an alternate key while scrolling through a WP or Edit document will scroll the view one page at a time versus one line at a time. ================================================================ 3) Command-drag a file to the appropriate application and the app will open the file in its current directory (this includes command-dragging folders over Terminal to open a new shell in that folder. Useful for getting to a directory quickly). ================================================================ 4) Speaking of Terminal, drag any file or folder into a Terminal window to get the full path to that file or folder. ================================================================ 5) In the File Viewer's Processes window (Tools/Processes menu), under applications, select an application and then click on its icon in the panel and it will be unhidden ================================================================ 6) In the File Viewer's Inspector (command-1), if you click on the path listed, you can copy it to the pasteboard (note that you get the _path_to_ whatever you are selected on in the File Viewer, not the actual file itself) ================================================================ 7) If you command-click on your recycler icon you can drag it off your dock. Next time you log in it will appear at the bottom left of your screen. ================================================================ 8) If you are working in a folder in a Terminal shell and want to get to it in the file viewer, you can type 'open .' and it will open the current folder as a folder in the File Viewer. ================================================================ 9) Again, in terminal, if you want to edit a shell script without changing the permissions, use 'openfile'. Make sure Edit.app is running first. It will open the script in Edit and allow you to make changes without having to mess with chmod's. [get the new 'open' and you can open any file in the application _you_ want it to... 'openfile' is a standard binary by NeXT] ================================================================ 10) In Preferences.app, you can rearrange the icons on the top by Control-dragging them into the order you want. Since I basically don't unhide Preferences unless I am going to change my password, I put the Padlock icon first in my listing, so it is the first to appear when I unhide preferences ================================================================ 11) Try alt-command double-clicking on Workspace manager icon while Workspace is not the active app... You're in for a neat surprise... [it brings up the Logout panel] ================================================================ 12) Any running application can be removed from the dock by holding down the command key while dragging it off the dock. ================================================================ 13) The dock can be made to be below any window on screen by alt-clicking once on Workspace icon. Alt-clicking once again will return it to being above all other windows. ================================================================ 14) When you have a font panel front, shift-click (hold down shift and click) on the preview button... More neat things will happen... ================================================================ 15) Holding down the command key and using the up and down arrow keys will cycle you through all the windows on your screen at the time. However, I know of no way to make any particular window active (ie. key). ================================================================ 16) Starting with 3.0 (I think) the File Viewer provided a way to compress files easily through File/Compress. It would create a file with the extention .compressed which is (for most purposes) the same as .tar.Z. If you want to use GZIP for better compression, use these two dwrites: dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip You will also have to change the 'uncompress' to gunzip: dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip (note: even if you do not use gzip for compression, you can use gunzip to uncompress. It uncompresses many forms of compression.) [WARNING: if you do this, the files you create called "foo.compressed" will really be "foo.tar.gz". If you e-mail them to someone else, make sure to use the precise name, in case they have not switched their WM compression to Gzip.] ================================================================ 17) Select an app and open the Contents inspector to see what architectures are present (NS 3.2) and what files will be opened by that application (ie if you select Mail.app, it will show that both .vox and .mbox files are opened by Mail.app) ================================================================ 18) A file can be command-dragged to any ICON and released to "force" that application to open it (it's an easy way to get WP to open a RTF, for example.) The file can also just be dragged over the icon, and then hold down the command key (look for the arrow to turn white), when you release the file it will be opened by the application) ================================================================ I'm sure there are more out there! --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO No Root access, no super-user access
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: gnutar Message-ID: <Cx7GJ6.Kw2@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 15:04:16 GMT Some of the files in the ftp.cs.orst.edu apprarently have been gnutar'ed instead of std Unix tar'ed. Can you use standard Unix tar to untar them, or are we going to have to keep both tars around? Thanks -- personal opinions
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Date: 5 Oct 1994 17:48:46 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <36uotu$52l@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> In article <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: [nice features 1-18 deleted] ================================================================ 19) ALT-resize the Open/SavePanel to change the size without changing the number of columns in the browser. -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Need Help with Shell Script Message-ID: <1994Oct5.151708.1107@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 15:17:08 GMT I have a directory with mail messages in it. Each message is one file. I would like to be able to run a script that will show me the Subject, Date, and Sender of each message. Futher, I would like to do this either based on the date of the file or the Date in the Date header, whichever is easier. I think this is pretty easy, but I have tries using egrep and awk, but with no luck. Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. THanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: What does the extension .gz stand for ? Message-ID: <Cx7M0w.Eon@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: na Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 17:02:55 GMT Hi. I just got a file from an ftp transfer that has the extension .gz (Tuner.tar.gz). How do I go about to "unwrap" it ? What app do I need? THanks for time. Ze Tomas
From: Mark_Wagner@NeXT.COM (Mark Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Date: 5 Oct 1994 18:46:03 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <36us9b$q2@rosie.next.com> References: <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> In 3.3 only... Hold down the alt key and mouse down/drag the miniaturize button of any window that has a title which represents a file name (e.g. Edit). You'll get a draggable icon for the file. In article <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > We're on a primarily NeXT system here at Allegheny, and last year we > started a list of little features that are not self-evident. Some of > these would have been nice to have known a while ago.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: NeXT-related publications Message-ID: <espritCx7GJ6.E4B@netcom.com> Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List References: <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> <1994Oct4.061843.2044@ToTSySSoft.com> <Cx5n1H.DMp@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 15:04:17 GMT In article <Cx5n1H.DMp@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes: >rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) writes: > >>In article <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett >>L. Rice) writes: >>[snip] >>> >>> There are two NEXTSTEP publications that I know of: >>> >>> NEXT IN LINE >>> This magazine is published independently by Robert Wyatt. It is a >>> quarterly publication. Their plan is to direct mail their magazines to >>> NEXT-specific mailing lists to get the word out. Also, they had a >>> significant presence at NEXTSTEP EXPO. Subscriptions are $24 per year >>and >>> you can reach them at the below number. >>> >>> Next in line >>> PO Box 392 >>> Berryville, VA 22611 >>> 703-955-5045 > >>Actually, I think its published every other month. > >>Rick > >Actually, I think they *planned* to publish every other month but issue >one was out in June and I have yet to receive issue two. Am I the only >one not to receive issue two? No, you are not the only one. -- Alan F. Perry Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List esprit@netcom.com
From: stan@atlantis104.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where is Neil Greene? Date: 5 Oct 1994 19:46:32 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <36uvqo$6n7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <9410051156.AA02551@cantina.lanl.gov> In article <9410051156.AA02551@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: > I have been on the road for three weeks (i.e., not reading the c.s.n.* > news), so this may be a well-discussed topic by now. > > The software-buyer for the University of Maryland bookstore has been > unable to locate Neil Greene (TIFFany and Benchmark Systems, Lexington > KY). Has he translated to a new phone number? Or, can someone remind > me of his e-mail address? > > Please respond to me by e-mail (to silbar@cantina.lanl.gov) since I'm > still on the road and still not reading the news. Thanks. > > Dick Silbar The current phone number of Neil Greene is unknown; however, if you have any problems / questions around TIFFany, please let me know and I will gladly assist you. - Stan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates '81 Stan Jirman President, Caffeine Software stanj@leland.stanford.edu Creators of TIFFany NeXTmail welcome Professional Image Processing When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: troyw@teal.csn.org (Troy Weingart) Subject: New NeXT-ite, Need Advise Message-ID: <Cx7xop.GL3@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 21:14:48 GMT I am relatively new to the NeXT marketplace and would like to run my plan by the masses before I commit the cash. I would like to purchase a low end Intel box to run NeXTSTEP on. (486/P60?) This machine would be used for running windows apps like Quicken, some of the educational CD ROMS, and some dabbling with NS software development. What is the best way to go? I'm a bit taken back by the huge number of vendors selling Intel machines. I plan on purchasing NS3.3 to run on this machine and would like to set myself up for success. Can any of you make recommendations on what which vendors I should look into? (Dell, Zeos, Zenon, Cornell, Gateway??) Is anyone in the Denver area running NS on an Intel box I could see? They only piece of hardware that I have nailed is my monitor, a Nanao F560iw - - which is at this time no more than a costly paper weight. Thanks very much in advance -- * Troy Weingart Internet: troyw@csn.org * * 6825 Ashley Drive AT&Tnet: 719.574.9844 * * Colo Sprgs, CO 80922 *
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: gnutar Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:31:29 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IiYj41e00WBN85hX1o@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cx7GJ6.Kw2@txnews.amd.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 5-Oct-94 gnutar by charles.herrick@amd.com > Some of the files in the ftp.cs.orst.edu apprarently > have been gnutar'ed instead of std Unix tar'ed. Sure. It's sometimes necessary to use gnutar, since normal tar does not handle pathnames longer than 128 characters, and large projects with subprojects and long filenames may exceed this limit. > Can you use standard Unix tar to untar them, or are > we going to have to keep both tars around? Unix tar will fail to handle long filenames. However, you don't need to keep both tars around, since gnutar is an upwards-compatible replacement for normal tar. Just keep and use gnutar, and everything should work with no problems. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: gnutar Date: 5 Oct 1994 21:24:07 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <36v5hn$i6u@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <Cx7GJ6.Kw2@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes ) Some of the files in the ftp.cs.orst.edu apprarently ) have been gnutar'ed instead of std Unix tar'ed. Yes. ) Can you use standard Unix tar to untar them, No. Gnutar fixes the problem of tar choking on path names that are longer than 100 characters in length. Using tar on these archives will not unpack all the files properly, leaving several in the wrong place. ) or are ) we going to have to keep both tars around? No, just keep gnutar around. It is a superset of tar's functionality, so you would lose nothing by chucking tar as far as I know. Under 3.2 and higher, you have /bin/tar _and_ /usr/bin/gnutar anyway, so they are already there. -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Message-ID: <1994Oct5.204501.27353@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: uchicago strn fanclub References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> <36ub22$o3c@news1.digex.net> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 20:45:01 GMT Hmm.. What about "Monalith" from 2001. It's black (which I guess is a problem, since my case is white, but it is NS), it's tower-shapped, and it seems to imply that it is large and slow... I'll probably go with that, or mayb Babel... Babel is pretty nice. -Larry. -- |ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |--But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe! | |--Well, yes, I do talk to myself sometimes. |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Message-ID: <1994Oct5.203945.27034@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: uchicago strn fanclub References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> <36ub22$o3c@news1.digex.net> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 20:39:45 GMT In article <36ub22$o3c@news1.digex.net>, John Todd <jtodd@redfox.fox-den.com> wrote: >In article <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> >ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: >> Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, >> and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my >> Intel Tower? > > An English student friend of mine noted that "Cube" and "Slab" were two items in a play by Tom Stoppard (? I think. I'm going on non-English student memory here :) where there were three items that were used in a surreal discussion of naming. "Cube," "Slab," and "Brick" were the terms used to describe three objects that looked like a cube, a slab, and a brick. What the players were actually doing was using the word "cube" to mean "1", "slab" to mean "2", and "brick" to mean "3" but the audience >assume that they were speaking about the physical properties of the objects, and not the number. Kind of bizzare, from what I remember. > >Anyway, I find it hard to believe that someone at NeXT has never heard of this naming scheme or applied it to their machines, because I very distinctly remember that the Nitro was called (on the net at least) a "brick" and the chances for that happening without planning are fairly slim. Right, "Dogg's Hamlet." Hmm.. I guess I'll have to call it "Brick" or something. Maybe I'll go read Dogg's Hamlet again and find out if there is anything else... -Larry. -- |ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |--But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe! | |--Well, yes, I do talk to myself sometimes. |
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT-related publications Date: 5 Oct 1994 21:27:50 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <36v5om$idc@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <espritCx7GJ6.E4B@netcom.com> Alan F. Perry writes ) In article <> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes: ) >Am I the only ) >one not to receive issue two? ) ) No, you are not the only one. If you subscribed and are at a US address, you should have your issue #2 by next Monday; they have been mailed out... And the layout looks a lot better than #1! And the content is much improved, too. But I'm terribly biased... :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mux serial driver Date: 5 Oct 1994 21:27:30 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <36v5o2$rcr@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Well... I thought it would be easy to find. However, archie didn't help and it didn't appear to be on cs.orst.edu or sonata.cc.prudue.edu. Could somebody please point me towards the latest version of the MuX serial drivers for NSFIP? Many Thanks! - Steve -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University | "There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a boot jack and pulling on its tail."
From: brianw@sw.stratus.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3.2 on Pentium 60 Mhz Date: 5 Oct 1994 21:36:06 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Distribution: world Message-ID: <36v686$b86@transfer.stratus.com> Keywords: scsi disk not initialized Hi, I have the following problem, when I have a non-networked Gateway 2000 PC with a Pentium 60Mhz chip: I am getting in the account of 'me' which has not passwd I immediately get the error message: 'scsi disk is not initialized' When I press 'okay' I get something like: 'hard disk is not initialized...' Any way, here's the console output, ANY help would be appreciated: Software Version 3.2 (Thunder5S) probing for DOS Filesystem name: DOS Nov 11 22:21:08 Workspace: Mounted DOS disk at /ms-dos_6 probing for CDROM probing for DOS probing for mac probing for cdaudio Nov 11 22:21:22 Workspace: Mounted floppy disk at /NEXTSTEP_3.2 /usr/etc/disk -i -h localhost -l "UntitledDisk" /dev/rsd0a Unknown device type (hd1) probing for CDROM probing for DOS fs_util: Unknown device type (hd1) probing for mac disk name: SEAGATE ST11200N 930000 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label can't write label -- disk unusable!: I/O error Unknown device type (hd1) probing for cdaudio BuildDisk: Starting build at Thu Nov 11 22:28:10 1993... disk name: SEAGATE ST11200N 930000 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label can't write label -- disk unusable!: I/O error
From: tmyers@unlinfo.unl.edu (tim myers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: need screenlock, os ver 2.1 Date: 5 Oct 1994 20:34:35 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <36v2kr$9ne@crcnis1.unl.edu> I inherited a cube and my boss now wants me to put a screenlock on it. I found several out there on ftp sites but all of them were for os version 3 and above. I got a couple and tried them, just in case, but none worked. Is there a kind soul out there who has, or can point me to, a screenlock that runs on ver. 2.1? Thanks, Tim Myers Machine Room Operator Computing Resource Center -- Tim Myers Toli the Curious University of Nebraska-Lincoln Shire of Mag Mor tmyers@unlinfo.unl.edu Kingdom of Calontir
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 3 Oct 1994 09:20:25 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <36oicp$i8j@core.symnet.net> References: <36kaa6$84a@news.iastate.edu> Chris Wong writes > Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote: > : but I've not seen a single > : posting from anyone who's actually received one. I have. Some guy said his company loved theirs and would only buy object.stations from now on. > : If Canon waits much > : longer to release them, they'll have to redesign them to use the > : latest Intel CPU because the DX/4 [sic] will be out of production :-) Canon has had Pentium upgrade kits since the object.station's release. Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: gnutar Message-ID: <1994Oct5.224106.28514@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <Cx7GJ6.Kw2@txnews.amd.com> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 22:41:06 GMT In article <Cx7GJ6.Kw2@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: >>Some of the files in the ftp.cs.orst.edu apprarently >>have been gnutar'ed instead of std Unix tar'ed. >> >>Can you use standard Unix tar to untar them, or are >>we going to have to keep both tars around? >> I don't understand why NeXTSTEP still keeps tar around, since it's so broken with long filenames. I use gnutar for everything; I haven't seen any compatibility problems with that... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Message-ID: <1994Oct5.110456.10393@metasoft.fdn.org> Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France. References: <36puad$2ki@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 11:04:56 GMT In article <36puad$2ki@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) writes: > In article <CwyrA0.FwJ@agedwards.com>, > Chris Cleeland <cleelacj@agedwards.com> wrote: > >In article <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu>, > >David A. Johnson <dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu> wrote: > >> > >>>>Is there a NeXT pacakage that letes you run Windows in a NeXT window > >>>>remotely like NXHost or XHost?? Semmes to me It would be a money > >>>> maker espcially if it could do X,Mac and Windows. > >> > >>Now your really dreaming! If a package existed like that (and was > >>stable) > >>I'd buy half a dozen copies at almost any cost! > > > [good response chomped] > > What about doing something such as: > "localhost> open softpc -NXHost foo" > Could you run softpc on one machine, and display it on another? Yes, but without any kind of protocol for a real network windowing system (see the recent post of "cleelacj@agedwards.com"), you just have a bitmap transfer of the full MS-windows screen. Try to quickly move windows... it's unusable. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax:(+33) 99 35 00 45 Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.2 on Pentium 60 Mhz Date: 5 Oct 1994 21:10:14 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <36vipm$hfq@panix.com> References: <36v686$b86@transfer.stratus.com> Keywords: scsi disk not initialized In article <36v686$b86@transfer.stratus.com>, <brianw@sw.stratus.com> wrote: >Hi, I have the following problem, when I have a non-networked Gateway 2000 >PC with a Pentium 60Mhz chip: > >BuildDisk: Starting build at Thu Nov 11 22:28:10 1993... >disk name: SEAGATE ST11200N 930000 >disk type: fixed_rw_scsi >writing disk label >can't write label -- disk unusable!: I/O error Has the disk been low-level formatted? I just bought a Seagate drive and they claimed it was formatted, but it wasn't. Try that. Alec -- Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
From: neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: benchMark Developments - NEW ADDRESS/PHONE NUMBERS Date: 6 Oct 1994 00:53:52 -0400 Organization: Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc. Message-ID: <36vvt0$lkb@s.ms.uky.edu> benchMark Developments has relocated to the St. Louis, MO. For those of you sending desperate emails and worry about disconnected phone lines, here is our new information: benchMark Developments, Inc. 11970 Charter Oak Parkway St. Louis MO 63146-5226 Phone: 314-872-2907 / 800-872-3131 Fax: Not available at this time Email: info@bMD.com [ PLEASE FORWARD THIS INFORMATION TO ANYONE ] The 800 number should begin working again this week. Our email continues to work but may be delayed in the upcoming weeks as we move to a dedicated internet connection. Please bear with us in order to give us time to adjust to our new location and unpack our equipment. -- Neil
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Date: 6 Oct 1994 07:33:45 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <37098p$p3e@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> E. Larry Lidz (ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu) wrote: : Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, : and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my : Intel Tower? Everyone who sees mine calls it 'Awesome'. 8-) I guess 'NeXTSTEP Tower' is good enough. Gary -- __________________________________________________________________ gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list __________________________________________________________________
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: backup to DAT drive Date: 6 Oct 1994 03:52:25 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <36vs9p$fr6@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <Cwy64E.786@jlc.net> <36iicm$950@crcnis1.unl.edu> <36okrl$8mh@marsu.s.bawue.de> Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.s.bawue.de) wrote: : rdieter@mathlab41 (Rex Dieter) writes: : >We're using a combined Black/White hardware NS 3.2 network here, : Did you load the SCSI tape driver with Configure.app on white hardware? Thanks all for the Configure.app suggestion. It works. I wonder why I didn't have to do that for the back hardware? -- | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate | | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. | ---------------------------------------------------------------- |#include<have_a_nice_day.h> | Nuthin but InterNet |
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.2 on Pentium 60 Mhz Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 6 Oct 1994 03:58:38 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <36vsle$fr6@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <36v686$b86@transfer.stratus.com> brianw@sw.stratus.com wrote: : Hi, I have the following problem, when I have a non-networked Gateway 2000 : PC with a Pentium 60Mhz chip: : I am getting in the account of 'me' which has not passwd : I immediately get the error message: : 'scsi disk is not initialized' : When I press 'okay' I get something like: : 'hard disk is not initialized...' I've read about a bug in NS3.2 that didn't allow for SCSI disks larger than 2 Gig. All I remember reading was that it would be fixed in 3.2. Could that possibly be the problem? -- | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate | | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. | ---------------------------------------------------------------- |#include<have_a_nice_day.h> | Nuthin but InterNet |
From: d91-mbu@nada.kth.se (Marcus Burckhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: screendump Date: 6 Oct 1994 09:25:01 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <370fpd$8kk@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit How do i make a screendump ? (if i can) Do i need any special software ? /Marcus (scuse me if its a FAQ) -- ************************************************************************** * Name: Marcus Burckhardt | "Microsoft is not the answer. E-mail: d91-mbu@nada.kth.se | Microsoft is the question. NeXT-mail: d91-mbu@nextmail.nada.kth.se | No is the answer". WWW: http://www.nada.kth.se/~d91-mbu/ | ************************************************************************** *
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: backup to DAT drive Date: 6 Oct 94 09:33:52 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.781436032@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <Cwy64E.786@jlc.net> <36iicm$950@crcnis1.unl.edu> <36okrl$8mh@marsu.s.bawue.de> <36vs9p$fr6@crcnis1.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes: >Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.s.bawue.de) wrote: >Thanks all for the Configure.app suggestion. It works. I wonder >why I didn't have to do that for the back hardware? Because you have no Configure.app for black :-) There's nothing to configure, and the kernel itself contains tape support. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: caam1010@servus10.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Matthias Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD w/ 2 filesystems, problem Date: 6 Oct 1994 10:45:50 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <370kgu$1a0t@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Hello everybody, pardon me, if this is FAQ, but here goes... I have a small problem: I own a CD that has two filesystems, the Mac and the ISO9660 filesystem, on it. My NeXTstaion recognizes the Mac filesystem before it checks for the ISO9660 stuff, so the CD is auto-mounted as Mac-CD. The ISO9660 part of the CD is now unreachable. Is there a way to access the ISO9660 filesystem? Can I tell the automounter to not mount the Mac filesystem, but the ISO9660 filesystem? What can I do? Thanx in advance, Matthias -- Matthias Boehringer Inst. f. Anorg. Chemie Matthias.Boehringer@rus.uni-stuttgart.de Uni Stuttgart Pfaffenwaldring 55 no NeXTmail, please D 70550 Stuttgart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rouand@tnt.oleane.com (Jean-Michel Rouand) Subject: TNT Message-ID: <1994Oct3.081134.340@tnt.oleane.com> Keywords: TNT Sender: rouand@tnt.oleane.com Organization: Terra Nova Techonologies (France) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 08:11:34 GMT TERRA NOVA Technologies : La comp tence NEXTSTEP TERRA NOVA Technologies, soci t d ing ni rie sp cialis e dans le d veloppement d applications orient es objet NEXTSTEP et la commercialisation de plateformes NEXTSTEP (PC et station) s agrandi. Forte de 3 ann es d exp rience sur NEXTSTEP, notre soci t propose ses clients (grandes entreprises, administrations civiles et militaires, ducation - recherche ...), r partis sur toute la France, 250 m2 de locaux et 12 collaborateurs totalement "orient objet". Ce nouvel outil de travail permettra nos quipes: - Int gration PC et station, de livrer en 1994 pr s de 250 plateformes mat rielles NEXTSTEP. - Formation et assistance techinque NEXTSTEP, d apporter un service encore plus performant. - D veloppement d applications NEXTSTEP, de r aliser des projets de toutes envergures (de 10 jours/homme 1 an/homme) et plus particuli rement dans les domaines client-serveur et multim dia. En 1994, TERRA NOVA Technologies devrait r aliser un chiffre d affaire de l ordre de 12 MF pour un effectif de 12 collaborateurs. Les pr visions pour 1995 sont de 15 MFde CA et un recrutement de 2 3 ing nieurs pour assumer le plan de charge. TERRA NOVA Technologies La bastide verte BP 345 83077 ZI TOULON EST tel : 94 75 83 83 fax : 94 08 15 38 email : diane@tnt.oleane.com
From: buffalo@universe.digex.net (At the edge of Time and Speed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: a question Date: 6 Oct 1994 07:30:09 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941006082605.21050A-100000@universe.digex.net> Maybe someone here can help me..... I just bought a Next Printer, to go with my Next (imagine that), but it doesnt have docs, and I dont know what kind of toner cartridge to get for it, it is a black and white printer. Thanks in advance, Andy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dsanders@Trimark.com (Doug Sanders) Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Message-ID: <1994Oct6.120726.2584@trimark.com> Sender: news@trimark.com Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto References: <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 12:07:26 GMT In article <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: [shortcuts 1-18 deleted] (19 is already taken) ====================================================================== 20) Drag an icon from the file viewer over the open panel (or save panel) and the open panel changes to point to that file. *********************** Doug Sanders dsanders@trimark.com dsanders@hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: CD w/ 2 filesystems, problem Message-ID: <Cx90rH.79o@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <370kgu$1a0t@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 11:18:53 GMT In article <370kgu$1a0t@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> caam1010@servus10.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Matthias Boehringer) writes: > Hello everybody, > > pardon me, if this is FAQ, but here goes... > > I have a small problem: I own a CD that has two filesystems, the Mac and the > ISO9660 filesystem, on it. > > My NeXTstaion recognizes the Mac filesystem before it checks for the > ISO9660 stuff, so the CD is auto-mounted as Mac-CD. The ISO9660 part > of the CD is now unreachable. Is there a way to access the ISO9660 filesystem? > Can I tell the automounter to not mount the Mac filesystem, but the ISO9660 > filesystem? What can I do? Here's how: su root cd /usr/filesystems mv MAC.fs MAC.eff-ess <insert disk and wait for initialization> mv MAC.eff-ess MAC.fs -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de) 'intel inside' stickers look best on toilet lids
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Date: 6 Oct 1994 10:36:34 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <370jvi$gbj@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: >Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, >and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my >Intel Tower? If it's a Pentium, see if your corner video shop has the classic disaster film _The Towering Inferno_. :-) :-) :-) -=EPS=-
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Date: 6 Oct 1994 15:06:18 GMT Message-ID: <3713pa$lud@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <1994Oct6.120726.2584@trimark.com> > [shortcuts 1-18 deleted] > (19 is already taken) > ====================================================================== > 20) ================================================================ 21) Command-click on the tilte bar of a window will move it out of the way, i.e. to the back. ================================================================ 22) alternate-dragging windows by the tiltle bar will prevent them or the app which belongs to it from getting active (key). -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: gnutar Message-ID: <Cx9AMC.H8w@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <IiYj41e00WBN85hX1o@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 14:51:47 GMT In article <IiYj41e00WBN85hX1o@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: .. > Just keep and use gnutar, and everything should work with no problems. I guess I'm doofus of the day. I didn't realize gnutar shipped with NeXTSTEP 3.2. Guess that's what I guess from having my head in a Smalltalk bowl these last many months. Thanks, all!! -- personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dhinz@dread (David Hinz) Subject: What happened to logins Message-ID: <Cx9At1.F2A@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com> Sender: news@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews) Organization: US WEST IT Development Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 14:55:49 GMT After installing PPP on my system earlier this week something happened to break NetInfo. I started getting the following message and the system would no longer boot: lookupd[106]: netinfo sleeping: RPC: Unable to send; errno = Host is unreachable. Netstat would only show the localhost. ps -aux would hang. So by using the Trouble shooting guide for cleaning up NetInfo I was able to get the system up again. But now I can only login as "me". I went and fixed the netinfo for hosts, groups, and passwd. But when I try to login in as root or as myself from the login window the system starts to login then comes right back to the login window. I can only get into the system as "me" with no password but only after a reboot. If I log out (from the "me" account) the system then starts cycling through putting up a grey background with just the arrow cursor, then a bluish background with the spinning disk cursor, then back to the grey background. What else do I need to fix in NetInfo? Or is there something else broken somewhere? I've removed starting up PPP from the rc.local file. Any help would be appreciated. David Hinz. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ David Hinz ~ ~ Email: dhinz@spacelab.ecte.uswc.uswest.com ~ ~ dbhinz@znih.rmnug.org (NeXTmail OK) ~ ~ Phone: (303) 595-2844 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What does the extension .gz stand for ? Date: 6 Oct 1994 10:44:43 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410061544.AA17878@alleg.EDU> In comp.sys.next.misc article <Cx7M0w.Eon@acsu.buffalo.edu> jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) wrote: Hi. I just got a file from an ftp transfer that has the extension .gz (Tuner.tar.gz). How do I go about to "unwrap" it ? What app do I need? THanks for time. Ze Tomas it stands for GZIP. If you do not have gzip on your NeXT, you should get it (i'm not quite sure where it is on the archives, but I am sure someone is) if you have 3.x then you should be able to gunzip it in this form gunzip foo.tar.gz or gzip -d foo.tar.gz or to gunzip and untar, do: gzip -dc foo.tar.gz | tar -xf - You can also get Opener.app which is quite helpful for uncompressing many different forms of compression. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola MAIL: NeXT YES / MIME Mail NO No Root access, no super-user access
From: rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch (Ralph Michael Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What does the extension .gz stand for ? Date: 6 Oct 1994 17:14:11 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Distribution: na Message-ID: <371b93$n4c@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> References: <Cx7M0w.Eon@acsu.buffalo.edu> The extension .gz stands for gnu's gzip resp. gunzip. The sources should be anywhere on the net. - Ralph Keller
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP not starting - help ! Date: 6 Oct 1994 16:14:23 GMT Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton Message-ID: <3717ov$bvu@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> My NeXT cube boots up OK until - NeXTSTEP starts then I get a nice grey screen with a mouse cursor and nothing else - it just sits there looking grey and smart. Any ideas what could be causing this ? Cheers Rupert.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: crszczub@cse.utoledo.edu (craig szczublewski) Subject: OpenSTEP (sp?) Message-ID: <Cx9D59.Gqu@utnetw.utoledo.edu> Sender: news@utnetw.utoledo.edu (News Manager) Organization: University of Toledo Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 15:46:21 GMT Please excuse if this question seems trivial, but I am not all that familiar with NextSTEP systems. Apperently there is a development tool called OpenSTEP that runs on this platform. I know that SunOS supports this tool, but are there any platforms which support it (in particular does HP support it) thanks much -- +---------------------------+ +------------------------------------+ | Craig Szczublewski |+ | crszczub@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu |+ | Unique Systems, Inc. || | 4gen!unique!craig%uunet.uu.net || | 5610 Monroe St. Suite 210 || |------------------------------------|| | Sylvania, OH 43560 || | A few munce ugo i cudn't evin spel || | (419) 882-1113 || | injunear, now i ar won. || +---------------------------+| +------------------------------------+| +---------------------------+ +------------------------------------+
From: LETTAU@kub.nl (LETTAU) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS and multiple DOS/OS2 partitions - HELP Date: Thu, 06 Oct 1994 17:22 MET Organization: Tilburg University / The Netherlands Distribution: world Message-ID: <19941006172203.LETTAU@pc0850.kub.nl> Hi, I just installed NS on my Dell Pentium. I am running DOS 6.21 and OS/2 2.1 on the harddrive. Unfortunately, NS does not see the DOS partition. As I pretty much a Unix novice, I would appreciate if somebody could give me some hints on how to tell NS to recognize the other partitions. My setup is as follows: 1. OS/2 Bootmanager 2. DOS primary partition (FAT) 3. OS/2 logical partition (HPFS) 4. OS/2 stuff logical (HPFS) 5. data partition (FAT) 6. NS partition Somebody told me that NS should be able to recognize the two FAT partitions. I would appreciate any input. Thanks, Martin
From: vanfosse@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andy VanFossen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT General Store Number? Date: 6 Oct 1994 17:07:23 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <371asb$r4d@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> What is the 800 number of the NeXT General Store in SF? -- Andy Van Fossen | Ohio State University | "I read it on the net, andy+@osu.edu | std disclaimers apply | so it must be true..."
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: a question Date: 6 Oct 1994 16:31:49 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <3718pl$15s@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941006082605.21050A-100000@universe.digex.net> In article <Pine.SUN.3.90.941006082605.21050A-100000@universe.digex.net> buffalo@universe.digex.net (At the edge of Time and Speed) writes: > Maybe someone here can help me..... > > I just bought a Next Printer, to go with my Next (imagine that), but > it doesnt have docs, and I dont know what kind of toner cartridge > to get for it, it is a black and white printer. > > > Thanks in advance, > > Andy According to the (somewhat old) documentation I have here in my office: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The printer accepts only one type of printer cartridge: the EP-S Cartridge, which is widely available and is used by several other printers (including the Apple LaserWriter II and the HP LaserJet Series II). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: vanes002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (John Van Essen) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.games.doom,alt.games.doom.announce,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.games,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: 3rd RFD: rec.games.computer.doom.{announce,help,misc,editing,playing} Supersedes: <rec.games.computer.doom-RFD2@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 6 Oct 1994 13:59:46 -0400 Organization: umn.edu Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <rec.games.computer.doom-RFD3@maroon.tc.umn.edu> 3rd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) rec.games.computer.doom.* [Removed controversial .ports and .multiplayers groups, leaving 5 groups.] [Removed unchanged PURPOSE/DISCUSSION/RATIONALE sections for brevity.] [See the EPILOGUE TO 3RD RFD at the end for further comments.] Group Names: rec.games.computer.doom.{announce,help,misc,editing,playing} Status: 1 Moderated (announce), 4 Unmoderated Distribution: World Summary: Discussion of the game DOOM and its sequels and add-ons. Replaces alt.games.{doom,doom.announce,doom.newplayers} Proposed By: John Van Essen <vanes002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> With Help From: Contributors in alt.games.doom too numerous to mention. Posting Date: Mon Sep 19 1994 (1st RFD) Posted To: news.announce.newgroups comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action news.groups comp.sys.sgi.misc alt.games.doom.announce comp.sys.next.misc alt.games.doom comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.os2.games Newsgroup lines: rec.games.computer.doom.announce Info/FAQs/reviews about DOOM. (Moderated) rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (new players welcome). rec.games.computer.doom.misc Talking about DOOM and id Software. rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing and hacking DOOM-related files. rec.games.computer.doom.playing Playing DOOM and user-created levels. NOTE: The new rec.games.computer and rec.games.computer.doom nodes whose creation is implied here are not newsgroups - no posting intended there. CHARTERS ======== rec.games.computer.doom.announce Info/FAQs/reviews about DOOM. (Moderated) The sort of postings likely to be to be approved by the moderator are general announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of DOOM players. Examples of these types of articles are: - Anything from id Software - New PWAD and LMP announcements - Announcements of new versions of utilities like DEU and DEHACKED - Tourney announcements - FTP site news (downtime, user limits, etc) - FAQs and similarly informative documents - Reviews of user-written PWADs The current moderator of alt.games.doom.announce, Tony Lezard, says that he'd be happy to moderate this newsgroup using the current addresses: Submit: doom@mantis.co.uk Contact: doom-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.announce. rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (new players welcome). This unmoderated newsgroup is the headquarters of the DOOM Help Service. Readers new to USENET or to DOOM who post questions here will receive a flame-free friendly response from experienced USENETters and DOOM players. Game setup, hardware problems, modem/network setup, secrets, cheats, how to get DOOM and related utilities are a few examples of suitable topics. Questions about modifying/editing levels belong in the .editing group. This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.newplayers. rec.games.computer.doom.misc Talking about DOOM and id Software. Here is where discussion occurs about non-play-related issues that aren't suitable (or only marginally so) for the other subgroups. Examples are FTP issues, ports of DOOM to other systems, piracy, "DOOM - the Movie", DOOM II vs. DOOM, what's the best soundcard, DOOM-related ads, comparisons with other games, magazine articles, people at id and their cars, future id plans (Quake). In general, if it isn't about actually playing or editing DOOM, post it here. rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing and hacking DOOM-related files. Discussion here covers modifying the DOOM environment, especially the EXE and WAD files. There are many user-written utilities available that do these types of things. Some authors and experienced users can answer questions about design techniques and using the utilities. Examples of topics are effects of design error (HOM, Medusa), design problems in user-written PWADs, modifying default DOOM behavior, utility enhancements. Comments or questions about playing user-written PWADs (opinions, keys, secrets, etc.) should not be posted here - post in .playing instead. rec.games.computer.doom.playing Playing DOOM and user-created levels. Discussion about playing DOOM takes place here (not only about playing id's original levels, but also about playing user-written PWADs). Topics include how to find secrets, keyboard/mouse movement techniques, side-effects of playing DOOM, where to find good PWADS (and which ones are favorites), deathmatch experiences, and so forth. Tournament discussions and multi-player topics can go here, too. PWAD upload notices can be posted here when not posted in .announce. Non-play-related topics belong in the .misc group (this includes Quake). EPILOGUE TO 3RD RFD =================== My reluctant decision to remove .ports and .multiplayers and go with just the 5 main groups was widely supported: Looks fine to me. Enjoy. - Francis Uy I'd not be against any of these groups. - William Harris I'm all for it. - Raphael Quinet I have no problem with this. - Doug Barton This works for me. Let's start voting. - Clint in Alaska I've modified some of the charters to merge in multiplayer/Quake info. I'm submitting the Call for Votes request to Ron Dippold and asking for voting to commence as early as 'legally' possible, which is on Thursday, Oct 13. There may be a few days' delay, but expect the CFV sometime that week. Voting will last for 22 days. Following the vote, there is a 5 day discussion period after which the newsgroups that passed will be created by the moderator of news.announce.newgroups.
From: vanfosse@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andy VanFossen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Date: 6 Oct 1994 18:28:36 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <371fkk$rpt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu>, E. Larry Lidz <ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote: >Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, >and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my >Intel Tower? How about Cinder Block? Cheap to manufacture, inexpensive to purchase, and of dubious quality. Also, the color is close. :-) -- Andy Van Fossen | Ohio State University | "I read it on the net, andy+@osu.edu | std disclaimers apply | so it must be true..."
From: forkesa@bonham.sbc.co.uk (Andrew D. Forkes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 6 Oct 1994 15:31:36 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <37158o$kpl@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> References: <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> Keywords: Cannon Object Station 412, is way cool In article <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > > > This machine lives up to its billing! > > -- > Garrett L. Rice > Yep, have to agree. This piece of kit flies. I had a good long play with it at the Object Expo in London this month - if you like playing Doom then that's probally as good an excuse as you need to buy it ... 8-) Delivery seems to be about 2 weeks in the UK, and there are several companies punting the product out (mail me for a list if interested). As an Intel solution I would say it's over-priced - but then you are paying for an integrated solution, with good after-sales support, so I don't think you could fault it that much. Other good news is that Cannon have written all the drivers themselves for 3.2 and I believe 3.3, so no driver problems!! And best of all it comes in black ... well it did at the Expo ;-) Andrew D. Forkes (NeXTmail's fine)
From: forkesa@bonham.sbc.co.uk (Andrew D. Forkes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 6 Oct 1994 15:31:40 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <37158s$kpm@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> References: <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> Keywords: Cannon Object Station 412, is way cool In article <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > > > This machine lives up to its billing! > > -- > Garrett L. Rice > Yep, have to agree. This piece of kit flies. I had a good long play with it at the Object Expo in London this month - if you like playing Doom then that's probally as good an excuse as you need to buy it ... 8-) Delivery seems to be about 2 weeks in the UK, and there are several companies punting the product out (mail me for a list if interested). As an Intel solution I would say it's over-priced - but then you are paying for an integrated solution, with good after-sales support, so I don't think you could fault it that much. Other good news is that Cannon have written all the drivers themselves for 3.2 and I believe 3.3, so no driver problems!! And best of all it comes in black ... well it did at the Expo ;-) Andrew D. Forkes (NeXTmail's fine)
From: forkesa@bonham.sbc.co.uk (Andrew D. Forkes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 6 Oct 1994 15:31:43 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <37158v$kpn@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> References: <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> Keywords: Cannon Object Station 412, is way cool In article <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > > > This machine lives up to its billing! > > -- > Garrett L. Rice > Yep, have to agree. This piece of kit flies. I had a good long play with it at the Object Expo in London this month - if you like playing Doom then that's probally as good an excuse as you need to buy it ... 8-) Delivery seems to be about 2 weeks in the UK, and there are several companies punting the product out (mail me for a list if interested). As an Intel solution I would say it's over-priced - but then you are paying for an integrated solution, with good after-sales support, so I don't think you could fault it that much. Other good news is that Cannon have written all the drivers themselves for 3.2 and I believe 3.3, so no driver problems!! And best of all it comes in black ... well it did at the Expo ;-) Andrew D. Forkes (NeXTmail's fine)
From: forkesa@bonham.sbc.co.uk (Andrew D. Forkes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 6 Oct 1994 15:31:53 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <371599$kpp@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> References: <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> Keywords: Cannon Object Station 412, is way cool In article <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > > > This machine lives up to its billing! > > -- > Garrett L. Rice > Yep, have to agree. This piece of kit flies. I had a good long play with it at the Object Expo in London this month - if you like playing Doom then that's probally as good an excuse as you need to buy it ... 8-) Delivery seems to be about 2 weeks in the UK, and there are several companies punting the product out (mail me for a list if interested). As an Intel solution I would say it's over-priced - but then you are paying for an integrated solution, with good after-sales support, so I don't think you could fault it that much. Other good news is that Cannon have written all the drivers themselves for 3.2 and I believe 3.3, so no driver problems!! And best of all it comes in black ... well it did at the Expo ;-) Andrew D. Forkes (NeXTmail's fine)
From: forkesa@bonham.sbc.co.uk (Andrew D. Forkes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 6 Oct 1994 15:31:56 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <37159c$kpq@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> References: <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> Keywords: Cannon Object Station 412, is way cool In article <36pdqp$sts@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > > > This machine lives up to its billing! > > -- > Garrett L. Rice > Yep, have to agree. This piece of kit flies. I had a good long play with it at the Object Expo in London this month - if you like playing Doom then that's probally as good an excuse as you need to buy it ... 8-) Delivery seems to be about 2 weeks in the UK, and there are several companies punting the product out (mail me for a list if interested). As an Intel solution I would say it's over-priced - but then you are paying for an integrated solution, with good after-sales support, so I don't think you could fault it that much. Other good news is that Cannon have written all the drivers themselves for 3.2 and I believe 3.3, so no driver problems!! And best of all it comes in black ... well it did at the Expo ;-) Andrew D. Forkes (NeXTmail's fine)
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need Help with Shell Script Date: 6 Oct 1994 16:50:05 -0500 Organization: Proxima, Inc. Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <px9410062150.AA22653@pine.proxima.com> This is an inefficient 30 second hack, but it will do what you need (this is assuming you don't have perl): foreach file (*) set sub=`grep ^Subject: $file | sed -e 's/Subject: //g'` set send=`grep ^From: $file | sed -e 's/From: //g'` set date=`grep ^Date: $file | sed -e 's/Date: //g'` echo "In message $file, sender is $send, subject is $sub, and date is $date" end -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Director, Network Services McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Date: 6 Oct 1994 21:37:21 GMT Organization: Columbia University Distribution: world Message-ID: <371qmh$j8t@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <CwyrA0.FwJ@agedwards.com> In article <CwyrA0.FwJ@agedwards.com> cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) writes: > In article <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu>, > David A. Johnson <dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu> wrote: > > > >>>Is there a NeXT pacakage that letes you run Windows in a NeXT window > >>>remotely like NXHost or XHost?? Semmes to me It would be a money maker > >>>espcially if it could do X,Mac and Windows. > > > >Now your really dreaming! If a package existed like that (and was stable) > >I'd buy half a dozen copies at almost any cost! > > If what you want to do is run a Windows application on machine A, but > have the display go to the display hooked up to machine B, then I think > you might be out of luck in a big way. In order for that to happen there > would have to be some sort of protocol to allow for an app to "connect" > to a display and push drawing commands to it. Conversely, events would > have to go from a display back to the app. > [more reasons why this is impossible...] I see no reason why some ingenious program could not pose as a set of VGA, keyboard and mouse driver and render all text and graphics using X (or NeXT DPS) protocols over the network. Windows and its applications would never know ... --- Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics |630 West 168th St. BB-221 | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Message-ID: <1994Oct4.181737.28771@cc.usu.edu> Date: 4 Oct 94 18:17:37 MDT References: <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: Utah State University In article <1994Oct4.210506.6246@midway.uchicago.edu>, ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: > Okay, if the NeXT cubes are called cubes, and the NeXTStations called slabs, > and presumably that name applied to Intel NeXTStep systems, what do I call my > Intel Tower? Well you could call it an "Obelisk". But, since it is an Intel machine, perhaps "Obelus" would be more appropriate. :-) ====================================================================== John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred) Programmer/Analyst slxn8@cc.usu.edu -or- [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com "Life is too important to take seriously." ======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) Subject: Re: What does the extension .gz stand for ? Message-ID: <rbzCx9IEF.JAz@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <Cx7M0w.Eon@acsu.buffalo.edu> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 17:39:51 GMT jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) writes: > Hi. I just got a file from an ftp transfer that has the extension .gz >(Tuner.tar.gz). How do I go about to "unwrap" it ? What app do I need? >THanks for time. gunzip Tuner.tar.gz tar -xvf Tuner.tar -- <Rodger> ====================================================== Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com 1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884 Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636 ======================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: What does the extension .gz stand for ? Message-ID: <CxADDI.KyD@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <Cx7M0w.Eon@acsu.buffalo.edu> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 04:50:40 GMT Jose Tomas Henriques (jh@acsu.buffalo.edu) wrote: : Hi. I just got a file from an ftp transfer that has the extension .gz : (Tuner.tar.gz). How do I go about to "unwrap" it ? What app do I need? : THanks for time. I get into Terminal and use /usr/bin/gunzip. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) Subject: EtherExpress Pro Adapter PCLA8225 Message-ID: <CxAw16.17n@nntpa.cb.att.com> Followup-To: coco@erika.cb.att.com Keywords: EtherExpress Ethernet Intel 10BaseT Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 11:31:53 GMT Does the above ethernet board work on NSfip 3.2 using the EtherExpress 16 driver? Anyone familiar with this board? The specs list it as new for 1994, ISA bus, 10BaseT, RJ-45 connection, list price $120. --Felix coco@erika.cb.att.com
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.powerbuilder,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy. Subject: What is NEXTSTEP and OpenStep (Was: OpenSTEP(sp?) Date: 7 Oct 1994 16:39:57 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <373tkt$5gg@potogold.rmii.com> References: <Cx9D59.Gqu@utnetw.utoledo.edu> In article <Cx9D59.Gqu@utnetw.utoledo.edu> crszczub@cse.utoledo.edu (craig szczublewski) writes: :Please excuse if this question seems trivial, but I am not all that familiar :with NextSTEP systems. Apperently there is a development tool called :OpenSTEP that runs on this platform. I know that SunOS supports this tool, :but are there any platforms which support it (in particular does HP support :it) Craig, See if I can explain this in under 20 pages. NEXTSTEP and OpenStep are both a combination of an operating systems and development environment. NEXTSTEP is the product name for the combination for which both the OS and the developer tools are created and supported by NEXT. OpenStep (generally) is a third-party operating system which is running a development environment that meets compliance standards created by NeXT for an open version of the NEXTSTEP development environment (in other words, it is a compatible clone). NEXTSTEP OPERATING SYSTEM: NEXTSTEP is based on the Mach microkernel. It uses Display Postscript for its imaging environment, and the Berkeley UNIX libraries for its operating system functions. This is the nuts and bolts (with many ommissions) of the OS portion. It is developed and supported by NeXT, which also used to make workstation hardware. This operating system is currently available on NeXT's defunct workstations, Intel i486 and Pentium systems, and HP9000 series 700 workstations. A NEXTSTEP port to Sun Sparc is in beta. OPENSTEP OPERATING SYSTEM: OpenStep's operating system base is Solaris when OpenStep is running on Sparc, it is OSF/1 when running on DEC/Alpha. These OS's have a kernel (similar to Mach), an imaging model (Display Poscript or equivalent such as X-windows), and a set of UNIX libraries. NEXTSTEP/OpenStep DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT On top of this OS, NEXTSTEP and OpenStep both use a large library of components and developer tools which are compatabile across NEXTSTEP/OpenStep platforms. The components include interface and application specific components (AppKit), persistent storage components (Indexing Kit), SQL-Database Development components (DBKit and Enterprise Object FrameWork), Sound components (SoundKit), Networking components (NetInfo Kit), and more. In the case of Sun, the actual NEXTSTEP component libraries have been licensed for Sun's implementation of Openstep, which means that OpenStep on Solaris and NEXTSTEP on any platform will be very compatible/interchangeable. DEC, as I understand it, has not licensed NeXT's components, but will build their own OpenStep compliant environment. THE GOAL BEHIND NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP The goal behind this two pronged approach is A) for NeXT's brilliant component software technology to be as widely available as possible via OpenStep and B) for NeXT to offer a version of OpenStep called NEXTSTEP over which they have control (so that they can ensure quality, etc). The benefit to the user is that NEXTSTEP and OpenStep offer 3-5 times the productivity of ordinary Mission Critical Custom Development Environments (e.g. Windows, Macintosh, and Unix/Motif). By offering both the OpenStep standard to ensure that a customer's installed base is not scrapped and NEXTSTEP to provide a high-quality reference platoform, NeXT feels that they have covered most of the bases as far as a prospective customer is concerned. Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. "The Single Source for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Stuff" 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) *These are my opinions only.
From: gkirikos@jazz.epas.utoronto.ca (George Kirikos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS and multiple DOS/OS2 partitions - HELP Date: 7 Oct 1994 15:41:31 GMT Organization: University of Toronto, EPAS Computing Facility Distribution: world Message-ID: <373q7c$45d@alpha.epas.utoronto.ca> References: <19941006172203.LETTAU@pc0850.kub.nl> LETTAU (LETTAU@kub.nl) wrote: : Hi, : I just installed NS on my Dell Pentium. I am running DOS 6.21 and OS/2 2.1 : on the harddrive. Unfortunately, NS does not see the DOS partition. As I : pretty much a Unix novice, I would appreciate if somebody could give me some : hints on how to tell NS to recognize the other partitions. My setup is : as follows: : : 1. OS/2 Bootmanager : 2. DOS primary partition (FAT) : 3. OS/2 logical partition (HPFS) : 4. OS/2 stuff logical (HPFS) : 5. data partition (FAT) : 6. NS partition : : Somebody told me that NS should be able to recognize the two FAT partitions. Hi, I had an almost similar setup, and NS 486 wouldn't see the Fat partitions. On ftp.next.com there's a fix for the DOS file system drivers (patches 1607 and 1608, called "DoSFileSysPatch.pkg.compressed"). Apparently there was a problem in accessing FAT partitions > 32MB. It also improved the DOS partition mounting ability. After installing it (just yesterday), NS 486 sees my first DOS partition (the primary one; it doesn't see the second FAT partition after the OS/2 partition). I was able to transfer files, etc. withoutany problem from the nextstep side. However, when I rebooted, and ran OS/2, a chkdsk of the DOS partition revealed a few lost clusters (some extended attributes lost). I'm not sure whether this was due to the NS 486 access, but it seems likely (I didn't change anything else). I'll try experimenting a little more. On IRC, someone mentioned that there was a recent post on installing DOS, OS/2, NS 486, and Linux partitions. Could someone repost it? I just bought a new 2.1 GB SCSI drive (to add to my 1.2 GB SCSI drive -- both have more than 1024 cylinders), and I'd like to reconfigure my partitions to get everything working nicely (i.e. DOS partitions readable by NS 486 and Linux). I plan to use the OS/2 bootmanager, but I'm open to using anything that'll let me get the most out of my setup. Regards, -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | George Kirikos Internet: gkirikos@epas.utoronto.ca | | Toronto, Canada Telephone: (416) 588-0269 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> Subject: Does SoftPC Really Work? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941006225055.14124A-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 02:52:22 GMT I have a number of Windows applicatiosn that I would like to run under SoftPC on the Intel NS 3.2. First does it really work. I want to run MS Office 4.3 Professional, which has Word, Excel, Access and Powerpoint. I also want to run Asymetrix Multimedia Toolbook, so I want to know if the SoftPC supports sound and Video for Windows? Anyone care to comment? Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> Subject: Digital Video and Video Capture? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941006225233.14124B-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 02:54:17 GMT I have heard that there is a thing called NeXT Time that will runQuicktime videos. Is there something that will run AVI Video for Windows files? Is there a way to use a video capture card in NS to capture video from a VCR or other source. I have Intel Smart Video Recorder and would like to be able to work with digital video. Anyone done this? Matt Webster
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: screendump Date: 7 Oct 1994 16:15:40 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <373s7c$f0@rosie.next.com> References: <370fpd$8kk@news.kth.se> In article <370fpd$8kk@news.kth.se> d91-mbu@nada.kth.se (Marcus Burckhardt) writes: # # How do i make a screendump ? (if i can) # Do i need any special software ? # /NextApps/Grab.app joe
From: skeezics@teleport.com (Skeezics Boondoggle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Appletalk on the cheap? Date: 7 Oct 1994 09:53:45 -0700 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <373uep$ing@sandra.teleport.com> Summary: i know about Partner Keywords: a hack, but will it work? Anybody running the NeXT-supplied Appletalk stuff under 3.2 successfully? I upgraded a Cube from 2.1 to 3.2, then went back and installed the 3.0 Appletalk stuff, along with the 3.0 version of PrintManager.app. I can see the Mac servers on the net and connect to them, and I can see the printers/spoolers on the net, but print requests seem to vanish. I have some investigation to do, no doubt, as this machine was badly hacked by someone who had obviously attempted to load bits and pieces of the 3.0 beta releases... I just need to be able to print a few test jobs to prove that the NeXT can spool to the Appletalk printers without causing any network problems, printer crashes, or other incompatibilities. We have budgeted for the IPT Partner software, but we're *really* pushing to at least do the test runs without spending the money on that now (especially since we're flipping a coin about the '040 upgrade or the A-talk software first). Anyone with NeXT-to-Mac connectivity experiences and caveats, please email me! I'll gladly post a summary if anyone is interested. Thanks! -- Chris -- skeezics@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81)
From: d91-mbu@nada.kth.se (Marcus Burckhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: screendump Date: 7 Oct 1994 18:39:40 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3744lc$4i1@news.kth.se> References: <373s7c$f0@rosie.next.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <373s7c$f0@rosie.next.com> Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) writes: > In article <370fpd$8kk@news.kth.se> d91-mbu@nada.kth.se (Marcus > Burckhardt) writes: > # > # How do i make a screendump ? (if i can) > # Do i need any special software ? > # > > /NextApps/Grab.app > > joe Sorry i forgot to say i only have NS 3.0 grab.app wont work correctly but i solved the problem in another way. /marcus -- ************************************************************************** * Name: Marcus Burckhardt | "Microsoft is not the answer. E-mail: d91-mbu@nada.kth.se | Microsoft is the question. NeXT-mail: d91-mbu@nextmail.nada.kth.se | No is the answer". WWW: http://www.nada.kth.se/~d91-mbu/ | ************************************************************************** *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Message-ID: <CxBK4E.ALw@agedwards.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 20:12:13 GMT References: <1994Sep22.115340.27626@cc.usu.edu> <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu> <CwyrA0.FwJ@agedwards.com> <36puad$2ki@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: A.G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. In article <36puad$2ki@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Steven S. Rosenblum <srosie@umich.edu> wrote: >In article <CwyrA0.FwJ@agedwards.com>, >Chris Cleeland <cleelacj@agedwards.com> wrote: >>In article <36a6ak$im0@news.acns.nwu.edu>, >>David A. Johnson <dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu> wrote: >>> >>>>>Is there a NeXT pacakage that letes you run Windows in a NeXT window >>>>>remotely like NXHost or XHost?? Semmes to me It would be a money maker >>>>>espcially if it could do X,Mac and Windows. >>> >>>Now your really dreaming! If a package existed like that (and was stable) >>>I'd buy half a dozen copies at almost any cost! >> >[good response chomped] Why, thank you! :-) >What about doing something such as: > "localhost> open softpc -NXHost foo" >Could you run softpc on one machine, and display it on another? This *should* be possible, although I'm not sure since the SoftPC/Intel uses the Interceptor library which somehow bypasses the parts of DPS that add obnoxious overhead. It may also bypass the part that allows things to be displayed remotely. Anyone from NeXT wish to comment? Thanks, -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need Help with Shell Script Date: 7 Oct 1994 19:29:17 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <3747id$frg@digdug.pencom.com> References: <px9410062150.AA22653@pine.proxima.com> In article <px9410062150.AA22653@pine.proxima.com> elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) writes: :This is an inefficient 30 second hack, but it will do what you need :(this is assuming you don't have perl): : :foreach file (*) : set sub=`grep ^Subject: $file | sed -e 's/Subject: //g'` : set send=`grep ^From: $file | sed -e 's/From: //g'` : set date=`grep ^Date: $file | sed -e 's/Date: //g'` : echo "In message $file, sender is $send, subject is $sub, and date is $date" :end What about: DATESTR=$1 # or whatever you want to set the DATE to search for... egrep "^Subject:|^From:|^Date:" `ls -l | grep "$DATESTR"` -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT dropped the ball with 4.0 - NOT Date: 07 Oct 1994 21:55:24 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <SWIET.94Oct7175524@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> References: <1994Oct5.203112.10562@FreemanSoft.com> <373s9v$c1j@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In-reply-to: art@cubicsol.com's message of 7 Oct 1994 16:17:03 GMT In article <373s9v$c1j@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: Even with 25 years of full-time education, I had to consult Digital Webster to grok "mutable". "const" is something I can understand as it's derived from a common word. When was the last time you heard or read "mutable" before it appeared in the OpenStep spec? I've heard and used the word mutable before. However, neither I nor Digital Webster knows what "grok" means. :-)
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation? Date: 7 Oct 1994 23:17:02 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <374kte$ct0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <36kaa6$84a@news.iastate.edu> <36kkq1$26q@nntp.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit michael@mmgraph.com\ (Michael Rutchik) writes: [...praise of object.station deleteed...] Some more data points on this installation: The network is very fast, copying a large file from the SPARC to the object.stations hard disk proceeds at a snappy 1+ Megabytes per second. A DX2 with an EISA network card connected to the same server clocked at less than half that ( ~ 460 K/s ). I've also had the chance to develop on one for about a month now, and it's been a very pleasant experience. CPU speed seems about twice that of a typical 66Mhz 486 (tested on PostScript RIPping, so memory bandwidth may also play a major role) and hard disk performance is consistently very high. The video is unobtrusively fast, just as it is supposed to be. I know I sound like a canon.ad, but I just never thought I'd come across an Intel box that I actually prefer to my cube. Now if only I could fit the motherboard in my cube case and get one of those swan-neck color monitors! Marcel
From: kris@xmission.com (kris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT dropped the ball with 4.0 - NOT Date: 7 Oct 1994 19:26:50 -0600 Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900) Distribution: usa Message-ID: <374sgq$rbm@xmission.xmission.com> References: <SWIET.94Oct7175524@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> <374pkc$11i@rosie.next.com> Mike_Paquette@next.com wrote: : In article <SWIET.94Oct7175524@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu : (Alexander Swietlicki) writes: : > I've heard and used the word mutable before. However, neither I nor : Digital : > Webster knows what "grok" means. :-) : Eh? Grok means 'drink'. It also means "to understand deeply." .......................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The word may once have been a healthy neural cell. It is now a parasitic organism that invades and damages the central nervous system."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: irex!imdat (Imdat Solak) Subject: Re: TNT Message-ID: <1994Oct7.144531.13597@irex.de> Sender: imdat@irex.de Organization: IREX Software AG, Hochreit 7, D-83329 Waging, Germany References: <1994Oct3.081134.340@tnt.oleane.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 14:45:30 MET In article <1994Oct3.081134.340@tnt.oleane.com> rouand@tnt.oleane.com (Jean-Michel Rouand) writes: > TERRA NOVA Technologies : La comp tence NEXTSTEP > > TERRA NOVA Technologies, soci t d ing ni rie sp cialis e dans le > d veloppement d applications orient es objet NEXTSTEP et la > commercialisation de plateformes NEXTSTEP (PC et station) s agrandi. > Forte de 3 ann es d exp rience sur NEXTSTEP, notre soci t propose ses Uh? I'm sorry but it would be nice if you would also post a english version of it. Couldn't resists ;-) -- Imdat Solak * IREX Software AG * Hochreit 7 * D-83329 Waging * Germany phone: +49 8681 694-0 * fax: +49 8681 694-200 * mail: imdat@irex.de #import <sys/company/disclaimer.h>
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT dropped the ball with 4.0 - NOT Date: 8 Oct 1994 00:37:32 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <374pkc$11i@rosie.next.com> References: <SWIET.94Oct7175524@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> Keywords: grok In article <SWIET.94Oct7175524@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) writes: > I've heard and used the word mutable before. However, neither I nor Digital > Webster knows what "grok" means. :-) Eh? Grok means 'drink'. Mike ====== I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal... mpaque@NeXT.COM NeXT business mail only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please "It's a bad neighborhood, but the rent is cheap."
From: kirbyj@cae.wisc.edu (James Patrick Kirby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MusicKit, MIDI, etc Date: 8 Oct 1994 07:54:45 GMT Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison Message-ID: <375j85$gvo@news.doit.wisc.edu> Hello. I'm looking for a computer sequencer, and would like to obtain a NeXT for various other reasons. However, I've been out of touch with the system for so long that I have no clue what the basic slab supports. What software/ hardware/interfaces are required? Are they bundled with a basic system or do I need to get them elsewhere? I don't need digital audio applications (at this point), just basic sequening and sysex data storage. Please email replies to: ned@picard.cs.wisc.edu Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: NeXT-related publications Message-ID: <1994Oct7.224206.594@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 22:42:06 GMT In article <36pfdd$t8s@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > > There are two NEXTSTEP publications that I know of: > > NEXT IN LINE > This magazine is published independently by Robert Wyatt. It is a > quarterly publication. Their plan is to direct mail their magazines to > NEXT-specific mailing lists to get the word out. Also, they had a > significant presence at NEXTSTEP EXPO. Subscriptions are $24 per year and > you can reach them at the below number. > > Next in line > PO Box 392 > Berryville, VA 22611 > 703-955-5045 > I'd like to have such a magazine in Europe. Since I'm actually working for a company that produce a magazine sold throught newsstand (I'm in charge of the DTP and printing process), I'm studying (not my employer) what could be done to distribute NeXT IN LINE in Europe (throught suscribtion, obviously...) So, I'd like to know if there are interested people (10 or 20 isnt sufficent to have a balanced budget) in Europe for that publication Just, a few questions : - such a magazine costs 18$ a year for 6 issues in the USA (24$ outside). How much are you willing to pay to have it (postal freight included) - what about an european supplement (written in english for everybody or an issue for each country ?) - dear ISV, resellers, do you think it is possible to reach the company that choose NS for their MCCA but that dont necessarily read the news (that is the "new" NeXT market) I wish to hear your ideas about that. $B8`(J -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: NeXT-related publications Message-ID: <1994Oct7.233003.1021@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <1994Oct7.224206.594@precipice.fdn.org> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 23:30:03 GMT In article <1994Oct7.224206.594@precipice.fdn.org> precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD) writes: > > - such a magazine costs 18$ a year for 6 issues in the USA (24$ outside). How much are you willing to pay to have it (postal freight included) > I indicate wrong subscription rates... In fact, it costs 24$ for US and 48$ for outside (excluding canada) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TAN: Re: How NeXT dropped the ball with 4.0 - NOT Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 04:48:46 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <wiZZnii00iV3M0jUh_@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <374sgq$rbm@xmission.xmission.com> (TAN for TANgential.) Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 7-Oct-94 Re: How NeXT dropped the ba.. by kris@xmission.com > : Eh? Grok means 'drink'. > > It also means "to understand deeply." In case anyone is wondering: for an understanding of why those two definitions of 'grok' relate, consult Robert Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land." Excellent reading, though utterly unrelated to NEXTSTEP. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NEXTSTEP and OpenStep (Was: OpenSTEP(sp?) Date: 8 Oct 1994 16:46:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <376icj$sfq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <373tkt$5gg@potogold.rmii.com> In article <373tkt$5gg@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > NEXTSTEP and OpenStep are > both a combination of an operating systems and development environment. > Garrett's OpenStep description doesn't mesh with my understanding and the description in the OpenStep spec: OpenStep is an operating system independent, object-oriented application layer, based on NeXT's advanced object technology. OpenStep contains these major components: Application Kit: The Application Kit provides the basic software for writing interactive applications - applications that use windows, draw on the screen, and respond to user actions on the keyboard and mouse. The Application Kit contains the components that define the OpenStep user interface. Foundation Kit: The Foundation Kit provides the fundamental building blocks that applications use to manage data and resources. It defines facilities for handling multibyte character sets, object persistency and distribution, and provides an interface to common operating system facilities. Display PostScript System: The Display PostScript system provides OpenStep with its device-independent imaging model. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NEXTSTEP and OpenStep (Was: OpenSTEP(sp?) Date: 8 Oct 1994 17:46:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <376ltj$f4f@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <373tkt$5gg@potogold.rmii.com> <376icj$sfq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > Garrett's OpenStep description doesn't mesh with my understanding and >the description in the OpenStep spec: >OpenStep is an operating system independent, object-oriented application >layer, based on NeXT's advanced object technology. OpenStep contains >these major components: >Application Kit: The Application Kit provides the basic software for >writing interactive applications - applications that use windows, draw on >the screen, and respond to user actions on the keyboard and mouse. The >Application Kit contains the components that define the OpenStep user >interface. >Foundation Kit: The Foundation Kit provides the fundamental building >blocks that applications use to manage data and resources. It defines >facilities for handling multibyte character sets, object persistency and >distribution, and provides an interface to common operating system >facilities. >Display PostScript System: The Display PostScript system provides >OpenStep with its device-independent imaging model. This is the technical definition. However, when it comes to implementing such a system, I don't think it will really be able to come down to just a "development environment and DPS" which is what is technically part of the spec. From what I have heard, the OpenStep package for Solaris (2.4) is going to be an add on available sometime in '95. From the sound of things you'll need the OpenStep addon to be able to even run OpenStep applications. Hopefully some future version of Solaris will include the necessary tools to run OpenStep applications without an extra purchase. The OpenStep environment for Solaris is supposed to include a version of the NeXT File Manager. Hopefully I'm wrong. It would be unfortunate if everyone who wanted to run OpenStep applications for a given platform would have to buy an extra "OpenStep" package. Even if it just means that they will eventually include all the user-level "OpenStep" stuff in the base operating system, requiring a purchase like that would severly limit the user base. -- David Jeske(N9LCA)/CompEng Student at Univ of Ill at Cham-Urbana/NeXT Programmer CoCreator of the GTalk Chat Software System - online at (708)998-0008 jeske@uiuc.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NEXTSTEP and OpenStep (Was: OpenSTEP(sp?) Date: 8 Oct 1994 18:39:26 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <376p0u$jn4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <373tkt$5gg@potogold.rmii.com> <376icj$sfq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <376ltj$f4f@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) writes: >Hopefully I'm wrong. It would be unfortunate if everyone who wanted to run >OpenStep applications for a given platform would have to buy an extra >"OpenStep" package. Even if it just means that they will eventually include >all the user-level "OpenStep" stuff in the base operating system, requiring >a purchase like that would severly limit the user base. In the latest Open System Today, Sep 26 '94 on pg. SF10 (Sun Focus), I see a quote: "Sun has made a firm comittment to ship OpenStep with its first release of DOE in early 1995. SunSoft said it will bundle OpenStep with every copy of Solaris it ships, as it already does with DOE." I am the one who provided David with that info, which I got from our Sun rep... (that it would be unbundled once it ships). Other peoples' quotes on this group make it sound like Sun will depend on OpenStep for object-oriented framework, so it sounds like it will be very integral. My guess is that the development tools will be unbundled, but the shared libraries for all of the objects will ship with the OS, just as NEXTSTEP does now. OpenStep is supposed to be the same on all platforms, even on NeXT Motorola. (beginning with 4.0 on Black machines, I think) -- David Lemson (217) 244-8833 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds) Subject: Re: NextStep + Windoze Message-ID: <mreynoldCxBp8u.z6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <CwyrA0.FwJ@agedwards.com> <371qmh$j8t@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 22:02:53 GMT In article <371qmh$j8t@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, Andreas Windemuth <windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu> wrote: [STUFF DELETED] >I see no reason why some ingenious program could not pose as >a set of VGA, keyboard and mouse driver and render all text >and graphics using X (or NeXT DPS) protocols over the network. >Windows and its applications would never know ... >--- >Andreas Windemuth Now we come full circle. I replied to the first post with this response. There is such a solution for X. It's to running DesqView/X (from QuarterDeck) on a host PC. This PC can now supply remote windows sessions via X. As long as the host PC doesn't have to access it's local filesystems (talk to MS-DOG) the performance is quite good. So put all the programs that you want to run and the files that you want to access out on your network and you're good to go. Cheers, Marc R -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc B. Reynolds W: (510) 814-6384 mreynold@netcom.com H: (510) 814-9385 (No NeXT-mail) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: skyway@netcom.com (Skyway) Subject: NEC 3X CD-ROM and NS3.2 Message-ID: <skywayCxBqvz.1Jz@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 22:38:23 GMT Has anyone connected a NEC 3X CD-ROM to white hardware running 3.2 and played audio CD's on it? I have a Toshiba, but found that it won't play audio CD's. Sony CD-ROM drives apparently do as this is the drive used in my Canon object.station41, and it plays audio CD's without a problem. Joseph Florez Please reply to NeXTmail address: joef@skyway.com NeXTmail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: In what archive can I find "gunzip" for black 3.0 ? Message-ID: <CxDEDr.KzM@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: na Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 20:03:27 GMT Title says it all. Thank you in advance for your response. Bye, Ze Tomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Message-ID: <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> From: patches@cc.usu.edu Date: 8 Oct 94 14:38:12 MDT Distribution: world Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days!
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 8 Oct 1994 23:08:41 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <3778pp$3v7@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> patches@cc.usu.edu wrote: : Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! Don't tell me that Jupiter is about to implode and fuse... What's the big idea of teasing me like this, anyway? -- jham@unlinfo.unl.edu [microSoftWindows free]; /* If only we could de-allocated all of the resources it's consuming so easily. */
From: rrn@po.cwru.edu (BoB) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Will NeXTStep/FIP 3.3 support the ATI GPT and NCR SCSI? Date: 8 Oct 1994 15:34:42 GMT Organization: Shafted Software Distribution: World Message-ID: <376e6i$1mp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hello all: I was wondering as the title suggests, will NS/FIP 3.3 support the ATI Graphics Pro Turbo? This is to say that I am a poor college student who blem all his $ on the card and can't afford to buy the drivers from talus. As well I am in the same situation with the NCR scsi chip that is on my motherboard...is there planned support for that in 3.3 as well? Thanks, BoB P.S. Is there some sort of data sheet on the expected features of 3.3?
From: ggerard@CS.Trinity.Edu (Gregory Gerard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Adding OmniImage to an HP Date: 9 Oct 1994 00:06:01 GMT Organization: Trinity University Message-ID: <377c5a$so2@tusol.cs.trinity.edu> When I added OmniImage to an HP, rib file no longer work properly. 3View works fine with them, but if one tries to use the inspector, bombage factor 9! Also, I lost all the inforamative icons for RIB files. How do I get them back to the way they were? (they show up as generic Images) thanks, greg
From: howar016@mc.duke.edu (Denise Howard Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 9 Oct 1994 03:48:53 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <377p75$v1@news.duke.edu> References: <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> In article <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu>, <patches@cc.usu.edu> wrote: > > Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! Jupiter is becoming a star already? I thought that wasn't going to happen till 2010. Must be because of those comet fragments. :-) :-) Denise -- Denise Howard Blakeley | PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS. Duke Med Center Info Systems | It was formerly blake015@mc.duke.edu. Durham, NC | My last name is changing to simply (919) 286-6468 W | Howard.
From: hacker@access4.digex.net (Dark Hacker) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Problems compiling RCS, SNNS, etc on NeXT... Date: 8 Oct 1994 23:42:50 -0400 Organization: Fortress Of Computation Message-ID: <377orq$3bc@access4.digex.net> I'm trying to compile and build a number of neural network simulators/tools that I FTP'd from the net on my NeXT and I'm having an incredibly bad time of it. SNNS for example fails to build because a program called "uname" doesn't exist on my NeXT. RCS fails to build becuase the file a.out.h couldn't be found. I think this file has something to do with object format compatiblity. Geeze, what happened to the days when Unix was so simple you could port code to any Unix platform and expect it to compile straight-away? Anyway, my question is 2-fold: 1) Has anyone managed to get the Rochester Connectionist Simulators, SNNS, quickprop, nevprop, backprop or any of these other packages to compile and run in a NeXT/Mach environment? 2) RCS and SNNS seem to be the premo way-cool environments in which to build neural nets. What do you folks recommend? Any preferences for building powerful backprop nets? Is one of these packages easier to use/modify/customize? Ok, thanks a lot. I hope someone out there has some experience with neural net simulation and tools on the NeXT! - Hacker -- Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us "Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
From: tdross@unixg.ubc.ca (Tony D. Ross) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: NExT MegaPixel 17" on PC Date: 9 Oct 1994 05:20:05 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <377ui5$fca@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> Does anyone know either of the following 1) Where I can get a cable, to drive a MegaPixel Color monitor from a PC with a video card that can produce 68Hz. Also, if someone knows VLB cards that can display at 68Hz refresh rates. 2) The encoding scheme, for the horizontal and vertical sync signals on the Green line of the monitor. I currently use a cheap, old 14" monitor and really need to get a better monitor. A friend, picked-up the MegaPixel Colour from an inventory clearance. Thanks in Advance.
From: kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: will this system work with NextStep Intel? Message-ID: <XXTluACCBh108h@viamar.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 94 07:49:43 -0500 Organization: Private System I recently bought a Dell Dimension XPS P60 system here's the info on all stuff in it (some added as well) Dell Pentium 60 (Intel) 8 Meg ram (going to upgrade to 24 Meg) STB Express PCI Video (Advanced Logic chipset) Advanced Gravis Ultrasound (1 meg onboard) soundcard Maxtor 345 meg IDE internal hard drive Western Digital Cavier 345 Meg IDE internal hard drive (ide interface is built onto motherboard) 2 16550 serials (built onboard) 1 parallel (built onboard) logitech 3 button right handed mouse connected to the PS/2 mouse interface Colorado Jumbo 250 internal tape backup with compression card (the tape drive and compression card aren't installed on this machine yet) Do you think this system will work? I got some of the NEXT ANSWERS but it didn't list Dell Pentiums, or my soundcard. Anyone have luck with any components of this system? Please email me (I'm losing my newsfeed, so I'll only have email in about a day) (post as well so others can see the results too!) thanks -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Kirk Membry Viamar Systems | | kmembry@viamar.com Running a ZyXEL U-1496E+ | | "In the Heart of the Green Mountains" w/v.32b/Fax/Voice | | When a cow laughs too hard, does milk come out of it's nose? | +------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: john@remote1 (John I Stephen) Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1) Subject: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 14:37:54 +0000 Message-ID: <9410091428.AA02950@remote1.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk When saving MS Windows output as postscript files from say, MS Word or MS Excel, we have found that we have to open the file (using Previewer's File Open on the menu) and use "Simple Mode". If we do not do this, we have discovered that the pages overlap on the screen and it's a general "mess". From a user's perspective, this is pretty poor; the promise is that a double click will just make it happen. Q. How can we advise people to save their Windows output in Postscript that will be immediately launchable by the NEXTSTEP Previewer (without manually opening the file in simply mode). Q. A Word for Windows 6 file was saved in PS format which contained a page in landscape; the ps file emerged with this page in two halves in portarit mode; was there a simple way to avoid this ? John -- -- John I. Stephen
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 15:26:51 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <sia4DvK00iV4A4FFdg@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <9410091428.AA02950@remote1.demon.co.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 9-Oct-94 MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP U.. by John I Stephen@remote1 > When saving MS Windows output as postscript files from say, MS Word > or MS Excel, we have found that we have to open the file (using > Previewer's File Open on the menu) and use "Simple Mode". If we do > not do this, we have discovered that the pages overlap on the screen > and it's a general "mess". That's because Microsoft programs and drivers are unable to produce valid PostScript documents as defined in the PostScript language specification, as defined by Adobe, the maker of PostScript. Yell at Microsoft. > From a user's perspective, this is pretty poor; the promise is that a double > click will just make it happen. That's correct. Provide Preview with a valid PostScript document, and everything will "just work". You might want to consider getting a product called Tailor, from FirstClass-- it'll do wonders for cleaning up the incorrect PostScript that some systems generate, and it'll probably help with your problems. -Chcuk Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 9 Oct 1994 20:01:59 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Distribution: world Message-ID: <379i7n$3vv7@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> In article <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> writes: > > > > Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! This is like the line in 2010: Odyssey 2. Well geez, what the heck will it be?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: NeXT Computer names? Message-ID: <1994Oct9.163920.4919@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <1994Oct5.204501.27353@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 16:39:20 GMT In article <1994Oct5.204501.27353@midway.uchicago.edu> ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: }~ Hmm.. What about "Monalith" from 2001. It's black (which I guess }~ is a problem, since my case is white, but it is NS), it's tower- }~ shapped, and it seems to imply that it is large and slow... The monolith was indeed black, and generally unmoving, but going *through* the monolith was a different story. Considering the time cycling, it must have been many times the speed C ;-) --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka) Subject: Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Message-ID: <1994Oct9.222840.2997@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <sia4DvK00iV4A4FFdg@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 22:28:40 GMT Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 9-Oct-94 MS Windows <===> > NEXTSTEP U.. by John I Stephen@remote1 > > When saving MS Windows output as postscript files from say, MS Word > > or MS Excel, we have found that we have to open the file (using > > Previewer's File Open on the menu) and use "Simple Mode". If we do > > not do this, we have discovered that the pages overlap on the screen > > and it's a general "mess". > > That's because Microsoft programs and drivers are unable to produce > valid PostScript documents as defined in the PostScript language > specification, as defined by Adobe, the maker of PostScript. > I believe that the MS programs don't correctly initialize the variable for the number of pages in the file (%pages or something like that) and set it to 0 instead of the correct number. Setting it by hand if you know the number of pages may fix this. [munch] Mike Stepniczka mike_stepniczka@il.us.swissbank.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: jurgen@nexus.ping.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Subject: Q:Cobol for NextStep? Message-ID: <CxFGuA.2tt@nexus.ping.de> Keywords: COBOL Sender: usenet@nexus.ping.de Organization: Heart Software Development Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 22:51:46 GMT Hi, what Cobol compilers are available for NEXTSTEP? -- Juergen Moellenhoff EMail: jurgen@nexus.ping.de (NeXTMail OK)
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 10 Oct 1994 03:37:18 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Distribution: world Message-ID: <37acte$fcu@network.ucsd.edu> References: <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> patches@cc.usu.edu wrote: : Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! Hmm...let's guess.... *) NextStep 3.3 released *) Native Alpha port. (hey ports are old hat by now, and what's the point on Alpha if you have HP?) *) Apple to give information to Next to allow a port to PowerMacs. *) Native PPC port to new Motorola hardware. *) Sun buys Next. *) IBM and Apple pull the plug on Taligent and tells it to merge with Next, saying "OK you guys do the C++ bindings for TaliStep". Apple invites Jobs back: "Come on home, Steve". *) Bill the Gates gives up on OLE + Cairo, buys OpenStep technology and makes plans for Object Windows NT 97. *) Jobs finally fills his Prozac prescription. Employees of Next, Inc rejoice. Talus is removed from the blacklist. :-) -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: multivolume file copy fails Date: 9 Oct 1994 15:28:04 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <379264$ba4@fermat.mayo.edu> I've tried on a couple of occasions to use Workspace's multivolume file (chunks) tool to move large files to a non-networked NeXT. Each time, the chunks get copied off of the diskettes but before the file gets reassembled the swap space expands to fill the disk and the process fails due to lack of disk space. Why does this happen and what can be done? --- buckley@mayo.edu Noon, Wednesday, October 12 Web of Resistance Demonstration Prarie Island Nuclear Power Plant
From: jalmeida@fc1.fc.up.pt (Jorge Almeida) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: font problems with emacs Date: 10 Oct 94 07:31:43 Organization: Faculdade de Ciencias da Universidade do Porto Message-ID: <JALMEIDA.94Oct10073143@fc1.fc.up.pt> I am a frequent user of emacs on a NeXTstation. Also, as a frequent user of "european languages", i.e. involving accents and cedillas, it is most convenient to be able to display the corresponding characters with their usual look. I tried the solutions given by emacs 19.xx, that is invoking the command standard-display-european (plus iso-accents-mode for comfortably entering the special characters on the keyboard) but with surprising effects: the non-ascii characters display in a completely mixed up way on the NeXT console. After a while I tried running emacs on the NeXT but with display on an X terminal (such as the console running an X server) and the problem completely disappeared! So, I suspect the problem is due to some non-standard mapping used by the PostScript fonts. Has anyone dealt successfully with this problem or has any suggestion as to how to solve it? Since I am not a regular news reader, please reply directly to me. Jorge Almeida (University of Porto, jalmeida@fc.up.pt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: screendump Message-ID: <CxB44L.M3@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <370fpd$8kk@news.kth.se> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 14:26:44 GMT In article <370fpd$8kk@news.kth.se> d91-mbu@nada.kth.se (Marcus Burckhardt) writes: > > How do i make a screendump ? (if i can) > Do i need any special software ? /NextApps/Grab.app isn't good enough? Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, == when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next From: andersen@encmail.encompass.com Subject: DBModeler problem-Sybase Login Panel Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <1994Oct10.143740.24469@glv.cen.encompass.com> Sender: usenet@glv.cen.encompass.com Organization: Encompass Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 10:35:20 PDT When I try to run DBModeler I get a "Can't find Sybase Login Panel" error. Anyone know why or how it can be fixed? Robert John Andersen
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Warning: Be careful with SCSI_Inspector.app ! Date: 10 Oct 1994 17:22:45 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <37bt95$6tb@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, just want to warn everybody to be careful when using SCSI_Inspector.app which is part of the SCSI2_ToolBox_940921.NI.tar.gz distribution. I was trying to use the benchmark part of SCSI_Inspector when there was still other disk activity going on (just after I logged in). The benchmark took for ever, you could hear the drive working and then stopping work intermittently in about 2 second intervals. After 2 or 3 minutes the system panicked. I have experienced several power failures and a few panics before but I have never seen the file system damaged so badly. Dozens of files and directories disappeared, i.e. /private/adm and also files totally unrelated to the activities after login, i.e. /NextApps/PrintManager/English.lroj, header files and much more. This occured on my Cube (24 MB memory) with a FujitsuM2694ESA-1 and PLI SUPER FLOPPY on the SCSI bus. I had tried the same benchmark on my Intel machine before where it worked, but without other disk activity going on at the same time. Cheers, Ernst. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NEXTSTEP and OpenStep (Was: OpenSTEP(sp?) Date: 10 Oct 1994 18:35:10 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <37c1gu$3a9@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <376icj$sfq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Art Isbell writes > Garrett's OpenStep description doesn't mesh with my understanding > and the description in the OpenStep spec: > > OpenStep is an operating system independent, object-oriented > application layer, based on NeXT's advanced object technology. > OpenStep contains these major components: > > Application Kit: ... > Foundation Kit: ... > Display PostScript System: ... Well, it depends on how technical you want to get. Strictly speaking, OpenStep is the *API* (the interface), which is defined in terms of DPS, FoundationKit, and the (revised) AppKit. Any implementation which properly supports that API will be allowed to use the "OpenStep" trademark. While it is conceivable that one could do OpenStep as a "drop-in" product, in practice it will be tightly integrated with the operating systems. NeXT will build it on top of Mach, Sun on top of Solaris, and DEC on top of OSF/1. NeXT of course sells it as part of NeXTSTEP. Sometime in 1995, all new versions of Solaris will come "OpenStep-compliant". I have no idea how DEC intends to market it. Note that the term "OpenStep" is often used to refer to non-NeXTSTEP implementations, or even only to Sun's product. This is incorrect. All versions of NEXTSTEP 4.0 and beyond, plus the Sun and DEC ports, will be licensed to carry the "OpenStep" trademark, and will be marketed as such. Note also that OpenStep does not exist yet, as either a standard or compatible products. The spec should be out "any day now", but it will likely take many months before it is "blessed" by some standards organization (if ever). Sometime in early 1995 we'll see the first implementations available, but I doubt you'll be able to buy it before June. Hope this helps, -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest Ph.D. student, High Energy Physics NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NEXTSTEP and OpenStep (Was: OpenSTEP(sp?) Date: 10 Oct 1994 18:01:09 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <37bvh5$nnq@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <376p0u$jn4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> David Lemson writes <jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) writes: < <>Hopefully I'm wrong. It would be unfortunate if everyone who wanted to run <>OpenStep applications for a given platform would have to buy an extra <>"OpenStep" package. Even if it just means that they will eventually include <>all the user-level "OpenStep" stuff in the base operating system, requiring <>a purchase like that would severly limit the user base. < <In the latest Open System Today, Sep 26 '94 on pg. SF10 (Sun Focus), <I see a quote: <"Sun has made a firm comittment to ship OpenStep with its first <release of DOE in early 1995. SunSoft said it will bundle OpenStep <with every copy of Solaris it ships, as it already does with DOE." < <I am the one who provided David with that info, which I got <from our Sun rep... (that it would be unbundled once it ships). <Other peoples' quotes on this group make it sound like Sun will <depend on OpenStep for object-oriented framework, so it sounds like <it will be very integral. < <My guess is that the development tools will be unbundled, but the <shared libraries for all of the objects will ship with the OS, just <as NEXTSTEP does now. OpenStep is supposed to be the same on all <platforms, even on NeXT Motorola. (beginning with 4.0 on Black <machines, I think) <-- <David Lemson (217) 244-8833 <University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator <Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD Given that Solaris 2.3 and 2.4 are already products it doesn't seem likely that we could bundle OpenStep with it 8^) ; so it will probably be separate package for now; I know nothing about pricing/licensing. OpenStep requires that you install an updated X11 server to support alpha compositing operators. I don't know when it will be bundled. The developer tools are definitely a separate product as they are with Nextstep and as are other dev tools available from SunPro. -- Mark Anenberg , OpenStep Development Team Email: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (NeXTMail Welcome) Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and in no way represent those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: multivolume file copy fails Date: 10 Oct 1994 18:57:02 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <37c2pu$lj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <379264$ba4@fermat.mayo.edu> In article <379264$ba4@fermat.mayo.edu> buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley) writes: > I've tried on a couple of occasions to use Workspace's multivolume file > (chunks) tool to move large files to a non-networked NeXT. Each time, the > chunks get copied off of the diskettes but before the file gets reassembled the > swap space expands to fill the disk and the process fails due to lack of disk > space. Why does this happen and what can be done? > Ahh...yes. i got bitten badly by this glitch early this year. The problem is that Workspace "chunking" 1) assembles, 2) un-tars, then 3) uncompresses WITHOUT DELETING ANY OF THE INTERMEDIATE FILES. A 70MB archive saved to 20 ED floppies required ~450 MB to decompress and restore. Blech! My solution was to have a friend reassemble and decompress them on a Really Big Server. -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Ste. 201, Champaign, IL, 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Probelm with "talk" command Followup-To: poster Date: 10 Oct 1994 18:21:39 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <37c0nj$iag@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Keywords: talk, NeXT, black Hi, about 5 months ago I purchased a NeXT cube. I changed the hostname of the machine from "localhost" to "holly". Now, when I try to use the talk command it replies "You don't exist. Go away." To my knowledge I have checked through everything. It's just a minor annoyance at this point, but I'm curious as to what is going on here. Does anyone have any idea of how to fix this?? Thanks, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- The power of UNIX must prevail. The evil Microsoft must be stopped!! -- NeXTStep, the operating system of the future, today. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What does the extension .gz stand for ? Date: 10 Oct 1994 14:37:51 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Distribution: na Message-ID: <37c1lv$t7@panix.com> References: <Cx7M0w.Eon@acsu.buffalo.edu> <rbzCx9IEF.JAz@netcom.com> In article <rbzCx9IEF.JAz@netcom.com>, Rodger B. Zeisler <rbz@netcom.com> wrote: > >gunzip Tuner.tar.gz >tar -xvf Tuner.tar I prefer the following command: gzcat Tuner.tar | tar xvf - Saves space (very helpful if you're short on disk space). Alec -- Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: font problems with emacs In-Reply-To: jalmeida@fc1.fc.up.pt's message of 10 Oct 94 07:31:43 To: jalmeida@fc1.fc.up.pt (Jorge Almeida) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Oct10100107@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <JALMEIDA.94Oct10073143@fc1.fc.up.pt> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 14:01:07 GMT In article <JALMEIDA.94Oct10073143@fc1.fc.up.pt> jalmeida@fc1.fc.up.pt (Jorge Almeida) writes: I am a frequent user of emacs on a NeXTstation. Also, as a frequent user of "european languages", i.e. involving accents and cedillas, it is most convenient to be able to display the corresponding characters with their usual look. [ ... ] Has anyone dealt successfully with this problem or has any suggestion as to how to solve it? Are you running the native version of Emacs 19 for NeXTstep ? You don't say, so this isn't entirely clear. If you do, just dwrite Emacs ISOLatin YES and all should be fine without any further mucking about. Carl Edman
From: falk@fermi.pha.jhu.edu (Adam Falk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: POP server on HP Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:50:43 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Message-ID: <37ccvj$d1e@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Keywords: POP, HP Has anyone out there successfully installed a POP server on the NeXT operating system? I'm trying to compile popoer on my HP 712/80, and whenever I run it I get the message "segmentation fault". I'd love it if someone had gotten this to compile on their own HP, but I'd also be happy to hear of anyone who got popper up and running on Motorola or Intel hardware, and if they ran into any NeXT-specific subtleties I should know about. Thank you in advance for your help. Adam Falk The Johns Hopkins University falk@fermi.pha.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave Waller) Subject: Re: POP server on HP Sender: news@cupnews0.cup.hp.com (News Admin) Message-ID: <CxHCIL.6Mp@cup.hp.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 23:13:33 GMT References: <37ccvj$d1e@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Cupertino, CA Keywords: POP, HP In article <37ccvj$d1e@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>, falk@fermi.pha.jhu.edu (Adam Falk) writes: |> Has anyone out there successfully installed a POP server on the NeXT |> operating system? I'm trying to compile popoer on my HP 712/80, and |> whenever I run it I get the message "segmentation fault". This means the application is trying to access an address in its address space for which there has not been a page of VM allocated, or the address is in a protected page (like page 0). This often happens when arrays are overrun by the program; differences in page size, code size, and other variations between architectures can cause such a bug to remain silent on one architecture, while coming to light on another. The easiest way to fix this is to compile the program for debug, then run it from the debugger until the fault occurs. You can then examine the offending address and source code where the offense took place, and see what it going on. Start first with checking to see that the index used in dereferencing an array is out of bounds (this should be obvious by the source code where the violation is happening). Another common source of this error is a bogus point that points to some unallocated portion of the address space. Again, due to variations between architectures, this bogus pointer may just happen to point to a piece of valid memory (as far as the hardware is concerned -- not the application!) on one architecture, while pointing to an invalid address on another. For example, a larger page size on one architecture than another can make this happen. Good luck! -- Dave Waller Hewlett-Packard Co. 19055 Pruneridge Ave. Workstation Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-9809 Channel Partner Consulting, West (408|T) 447-4413 dwaller@cup.hp.com
From: rsmallwo@IslandNet.com (Rhys Smallwood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Legal Issues with Interfacing to GDB Date: 9 Oct 1994 23:02:32 -0700 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada 604-477-5163 Message-ID: <37aldo$cal@Island.amtsgi.bc.ca> I am involved with developing an app of which a small component involves an interface to GDB to set breakpoints and the like. We have looked at using such utilities as Pipes, Lex, Yacc, etc. as possible options for interfacing to GDB in order to seperate our app from GNU software license restrictions. We do intend to sell our app commerically. On reading the following excerpt concerning the GDB software license outlined in 13-71 of the Next Development Tools and Techniques guide, I surmised that our indirect approach to GDB would ensure that we would be able to sell our software commerically as we are not copying, changing or distributing GDB source - we are interfacing to the GDB that is supplied with each copy of Nextstep. >>> Therefore we (Richard Stallman and the Free Software Foundation), make the following terms which say what you must do to be allowed to distribute or change GDB: (essentially they then outline three different policies for copying and modifying GDB) To ensure that my interpretation of the legal language is correct, I called the Free Software Foundation directly to outline our approach and to clarify that we would not have to distribute our app for free. They told me that any interface to GDB even through an indirect channel such as Pipes would require us to sell our app for free. Now I am really confused. I know there are apps out there that interface with GDB (Superdugger and even Next with its Edit GDB submenu) and they are not selling theirs for free. Can anyone pass on some words of wisdom ... who to talk to, where to look for further legal documentation, or even better to hear from someone with direct experience with this type of issue. Thanks in Advance ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: msp@metronet.com (Michael S. Peacock) Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Sender: usenet@metronet.com (UseNet news admin) Message-ID: <CxHHp5.GHy@metronet.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 01:05:24 GMT References: <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> <37acte$fcu@network.ucsd.edu> Organization: Texas Metronet, Internet for the Individual 214-705-2901 (info) In article <37acte$fcu@network.ucsd.edu>, mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) says: > >patches@cc.usu.edu wrote: >: Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! > >Hmm...let's guess.... > >*) NextStep 3.3 released > >*) Native Alpha port. (hey ports are old hat by now, and what's the point > on Alpha if you have HP?) > >*) Apple to give information to Next to allow a port to PowerMacs. > >*) Native PPC port to new Motorola hardware. > >*) Sun buys Next. > >*) IBM and Apple pull the plug on Taligent and tells it to merge with > Next, saying "OK you guys do the C++ bindings for TaliStep". Apple > invites Jobs back: "Come on home, Steve". > >*) Bill the Gates gives up on OLE + Cairo, buys OpenStep technology and > makes plans for Object Windows NT 97. > >*) Jobs finally fills his Prozac prescription. Employees of Next, Inc > rejoice. Talus is removed from the blacklist. :-) > >-- >-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu Athough I will probably be flamed for this off-topic reply, my guess is that it probably has nothing to do with any of the above. Isn't Doom II supposed to be released right around now? :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: screendump Message-ID: <1994Oct10.151956.27639@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <370fpd$8kk@news.kth.se> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:19:56 GMT d91-mbu@nada.kth.se (Marcus Burckhardt) writes: >How do i make a screendump ? (if i can) >Do i need any special software ? Start with looking at /NextApps/Grab.app Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl dy in NeXTstep 3.0 !! Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 11 Oct 1994 01:32:44 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <37d81s$ouo@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ or http://digifix.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- news://comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news://comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. news://comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news://comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news://comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news://comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news://comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news://comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news://comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news://comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-848-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com) Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com) and Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: SLIP for White NeXT Message-ID: <rfenney-111094010544@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: FenTek Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 08:03:16 GMT I am looking for a version of SLIP or PPP for NeXTSTEP the color is white. Any help would be appreciated! Robert
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Diagram 2 clone on Motif Date: 11 Oct 1994 09:25:28 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <37dlm8$fee@vega.info.isbiel.ch> I've here an exact clone of Diagram 2 on a SUN (Motif). It name is VisualThought from Confluent Inc (vthought@confluent.com). Any comments ? Oli
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Date: 11 Oct 1994 05:54:29 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410111051.AA09503@estel.uindy.edu> Hi folks, > >Yell at Microsoft. > A lot of good that will likely do... :) Next (obvious?) question... are there any third party drivers you could run under Windows that would produce palatable postscript for preview? thanks, -steve
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Digital Video and Video Capture? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:26:22 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <37cpju$2fl@anshar.shadow.net> References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941006225233.14124B-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> Matt Webster (gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu) wrote: : I have heard that there is a thing called NeXT Time that will : runQuicktime videos. Is there something that will run AVI Video for : Windows files? Is there a way to use a video capture card in NS to : capture video from a VCR or other source. I have Intel Smart Video : Recorder and would like to be able to work with digital video. Anyone : done this? NeXTIME will play back QuickTime videos, as long as they are compressed using a supported codec. At this point, there is no support for AVI, although this could be added in the future. As far as I know, there is no NS front-end for the SVR, and I have been informed that there are currently NO cards capable of creating NeXTIME videos. The Fast Movie Machine Pro claims to be NeXTIME-capable, by which I believe it can capture TIFF sequences which can then be converted to use with NeXTIME. I myself am waiting for a true NeXTIME video capture card for use with a presentation app like Concurrence. Also missing is a NeXTIME video-editing app. - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEC 3X CD-ROM and NS3.2 Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:45:43 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <37cqo7$31f@anshar.shadow.net> References: <skywayCxBqvz.1Jz@netcom.com> Skyway (skyway@netcom.com) wrote: : Has anyone connected a NEC 3X CD-ROM to white hardware running 3.2 and : played audio CD's on it? I have a Toshiba, but found that it won't play : audio CD's. Sony CD-ROM drives apparently do as this is the drive used in : my Canon object.station41, and it plays audio CD's without a problem. My NEC 3x (CDR-510) plays audio CDs with no problems. - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: vanfosse@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andy VanFossen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT General Store Phone? Date: 11 Oct 1994 12:47:52 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <37e1ho$m7p@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Does anyone have the 800 number of the NeXT General Store in SF? Thanks in advance! -- Andy Van Fossen | Ohio State University | "I read it on the net, andy+@osu.edu | std disclaimers apply | so it must be true..."
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Date: 11 Oct 1994 13:17:11 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <37e38n$ai@rosie.next.com> References: <9410111051.AA09503@estel.uindy.edu> In article <9410111051.AA09503@estel.uindy.edu> steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire) writes: # > # >Yell at Microsoft. # > # # A lot of good that will likely do... :) # # Next (obvious?) question... are there any third party drivers you # could run under Windows that would produce palatable postscript # for preview? I believe that Adobe has their own Windows drvier that works well. joe
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will NeXTStep/FIP 3.3 support the ATI GPT and NCR SCSI? Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:49:15 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: World Message-ID: <37cqur$34q@anshar.shadow.net> References: <376e6i$1mp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> BoB (rrn@po.cwru.edu) wrote: : I was wondering as the title suggests, will NS/FIP 3.3 support the ATI : Graphics Pro Turbo? This is to say that I am a poor college student : who blem all his $ on the card and can't afford to buy the drivers from : talus. As well I am in the same situation with the NCR scsi chip that : is on my motherboard...is there planned support for that in 3.3 as well? NeXT has stated that a GPT (mach64) driver will be available for 3.3, although it is not in the 3.3 pr2 pre-release. I don't know if it will be a part of the 3.3 release, or if it will be available later. - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Newton connection kit Date: 11 Oct 1994 09:51:02 -0500 Organization: Proxima, Inc. Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <px9410111451.AA10711@pine.proxima.com> I've seen posts in the past regarding people who were hacking on ConnectionKit software for NeXTSTEP...has anyone made any progress? I'd love to be able to dump my names into SBook, and use PencilMeIn for dates. -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Director, Network Services McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newton connection kit Date: 11 Oct 1994 17:13:57 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <px9410111451.AA10711@pine.proxima.com> In article <px9410111451.AA10711@pine.proxima.com> elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) writes: > I've seen posts in the past regarding people who were hacking on ConnectionKit > software for NeXTSTEP...has anyone made any progress? I'd love to be able to > dump my names into SBook, and use PencilMeIn for dates. > Count me in, too. -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Ste. 201, Champaign, IL, 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Warning: Be careful with SCSI_Inspector.app ! Date: 11 Oct 1994 17:36:21 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <37eiel$ov1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <37bt95$6tb@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am posting this on behalf of chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu, the author of SCSI2_ToolBox : Hi, I'm the author of the new SCSI2_ToolBox / SCSI_Inspector.app and saw your post to comp.sys.next.misc about some problems you had with it. (I'm having some problems with my newsfeed right now so I can't post this response directly but feel free to repost it if you want.) I'm sorry to hear about any problems you may have had and hope that you didn't lose anything critical. The program has been used successfully on a variety of black and white hardware configurations and although several people have complained about excessive disk thrashing during the benchmark, noone else has reported as severe a problem as you did. You're the first person to report file system corruption. The program does NOT write anything back to disk so I would venture to guess that the filesystem corruption was a secondary result of the crash. I have a new beta version of the SCSI_Inspector and SCSI2_ToolBox almost ready for release. The new version modifies the benchmark routines so that it is less stressful on the system and should hopefully avoid any future problems. Several other changes were made to the new version including some (un-related) bug fixes, the addition of better security measures to prevent unauthorized use, the addition of a formatter tool, etc. For now I would suggest anyone who has any doubt to avoid runnign the benchmark aspects of the program until the new version is released. Thanks for the bug report. - Chris -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What does the extension .gz stand for ? Date: 11 Oct 1994 15:31:50 GMT Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Southfield, MI Distribution: na Message-ID: <TMS.94Oct11113150@d098201.cfc.com> References: <Cx7M0w.Eon@acsu.buffalo.edu> <rbzCx9IEF.JAz@netcom.com> <37c1lv$t7@panix.com> In-reply-to: chuckie@panix.com's message of 10 Oct 1994 14:37:51 -0400 In article <37c1lv$t7@panix.com>, chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson) writes: >In article <rbzCx9IEF.JAz@netcom.com>, >Rodger B. Zeisler <rbz@netcom.com> wrote: >> >>gunzip Tuner.tar.gz >>tar -xvf Tuner.tar >I prefer the following command: >gzcat Tuner.tar | tar xvf - >Saves space (very helpful if you're short on disk space). Or even better yet: gnutar zxvf Tuner.tar.gz (NS 3.2+) Todd -- _____ __ __ ____ Todd M. Swan - Chrysler Financial, Southfield, MI |_ _| \/ | ___| tms@cfc.com (NeXTmail) | | | |__ | The flame at the heart of a pawnbroker's diamond |_| |_|\/|_|____| is a cold fire. - Rush
From: arnouilj@cedre.esiee.fr ( Jean-Claude Arnouil) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to use Energy Star mode with HP A4032/33A monitors ?? Date: 11 Oct 1994 17:32:41 GMT Organization: Groupe ESIEE - PARIS Message-ID: <37ei7p$ds5@srv5.esiee.fr> Fisrt, thanks to HP for their excellent monitors A4032A and A4033A, which are based on the SONY 17se and 20se models (as the Apple 17" and 20" are) and are Energy Star complient. But unfortunately, when used with HP700 workstations, those monitors never goes in "low energy mode". The only exception is when you do a reboot, in that case the monitor goes in sleep mode for a few seconds. This seems to be caused by the disparition of any video signal during the reset phase of the video hardware (the Artist chip in Geckos for example). The actual screensavers (on HP-UX or NEXTSTEP) are only displaying a black image on the screen but there is always a video signal sent. Is there any way to put the monitors in sleep mode after a certain amount of inactivity ?? (after an hour of black image for example) The SONY hardware used is VESA DPMS (Display Power Management Signaling) compliant, what does it means ?? Any information or comment is welcome. -- Jean-Claude Arnouil Unix Systems Administrator Ecole Superieure d'Electrotechnique et d'Electronique email: arnouilj@esiee.fr phone:(33 1)45.92.67.71 BP 99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand CEDEX - FRANCE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) Subject: Re: POP server on HP Message-ID: <rbzCxIqxt.F5M@netcom.com> Keywords: POP, HP Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <37ccvj$d1e@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:22:41 GMT falk@fermi.pha.jhu.edu (Adam Falk) writes: >Has anyone out there successfully installed a POP server on the NeXT >operating system? I'm trying to compile popoer on my HP 712/80, and >whenever I run it I get the message "segmentation fault". I'd love it if >someone had gotten this to compile on their own HP, but I'd also be happy >to hear of anyone who got popper up and running on Motorola or Intel >hardware, and if they ran into any NeXT-specific subtleties I should know >about. I haven't done it on an HP but I compiled and installed popper-1.831beta on my cube this weekend. I had 0 problems with the compile or the install. I am using it over a ppp link and using PopOver to retrive the mail. -- <Rodger> ====================================================== Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com 1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884 Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636 ======================================================
From: mgrice@iastate.edu (Matthew B. Grice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/FIP Fundamental Installation Problem Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:48:43 GMT Organization: Iowa State University Message-ID: <37f4ob$5lk@news.iastate.edu> When I try to boot off the CDROM install floppy, I get something that looks like this: NeXT boot1f ......................... Next boot1f......................... NeXT boot1f......................... I get this over and over again. The floppy drive is running, but it does not seem that the seek actuator is running. I have tried juggling scsi id s and so forth, but this seems to be an unrelated problem- it's the first thing the system does when it starts off the floppy drive. The system is NextStep 3.1.
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 90 Applications Running Date: 11 Oct 1994 19:42:47 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <37f7tn$ari@anshar.shadow.net> I just did something with NeXTSTEP I believed impossible with any PC operating system - running 90 applications simultaneously. This was done on my P5-90 with 32MB RAM, at 1152x896 72hz 16-bit color. The system slowed down slightly, and there was relatively little swapping. Ontop of running these apps, I also played the Scott McNealy QT video from the NeXTIME CD (200kb/s) with no dropped frames, and perfectly synchronized sound, while playing DOOM at 200% view (which ran smoothly). Until now, I thought this could not be done. This seems like a miracle to someone who's accustomed to running Windows and OS/2 with 2-3 apps, and having to reboot every half-hour. Running Apps: NeXTIME (200kb/s QT video) Lighthouse Design WetPaint Doom 1.2 (200% view) Lighthouse Design TaskMaster OmniImage (1mb JPEG file) Lighthouse Design Concurrence 2 Sound (200kb SND) Lighthouse Design Diagram! 2 Spectro (150kb SND) Insignia Solutions SoftPC Motion (3.5mb xmovie) Jargon Installer ImagePortfolio FaxReader OmniWeb Librarian MMEdit Webster MPEG_Play (900kb MPEG) Edit HTML-Editor FileMerge ManOpen Preferences MetroSuction Configure Morph Keyboard NXplot3D BackSpace Billiards Archie TimeMon NXBench 3View HippoDraw Grab Zilla eText SCSI_Inspector LoanCalc Mail Mandelbrot Digit DrivePerformance Draw Chess CRSolver GISO GatorFTP Gopher OpenSesame Opener SCIplot RenderManager Stuart Terminal Molecule Modulator MovieShow Pastry PhotoAlbum (1MB PCD) Preview (100kb PS) Quotations soundCheck nxyplot NewsGrazer Tetris PacMan DBModeler MallocDebug HeaderViewer IconBuilder InterfaceBuilder DDMViewer AppInspector ProcessMonitor ProjectBuilder UserManager NetInfoManager NetwareManager PrintManager BugNeXT SimpleNetworkStarter Skyview Weather TeXview Telnet Yap NFSManager
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Message-ID: <1994Oct10.224710.1070@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. References: <37acte$fcu@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 22:47:10 GMT In article <37acte$fcu@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes: > patches@cc.usu.edu wrote: > : Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! > Hmm...another guess.... - A black cube version of the NRW from CANON (dual PPC) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: mgrice@iastate.edu (Matthew B. Grice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 2nd NS/FIP intall problem tonite Date: 12 Oct 1994 01:35:44 GMT Organization: Iowa State University Message-ID: <37fehg$84s@news.iastate.edu> OK, I got my first problem solved (BIOS was incorrectly configured in a way that all my other operating systems were OK with, but apparently NS was not.) Anyway, I got further in the boot process, but still am having problems. Here's what it looks like: Registering kmDevice0 No CDROM drive found use sd%d, hd%d, or fd%d root dev?_ at this point, the keyboard is totally locked. Numlock doesn't work, the whole deal. I get the feeling I would normally be expected to type something at this point. Confused about this, I try doing one of those alternate boots where I type in something like fd()mach_kernel sd0a . I have a scsi cdrom drive on scsi id 0 and an IDE HD that I am installing to. I have removed my main scsi drive from the system to keep things simple. here is what I get... panic:(cpu 0) ufs mount[??illegible transcription???]:cannot mount root panic.....blah blah raise rdp exception 6 code 3 subcode 0 waiting for rdp connect.... also, at the boot prompt, when at the advanced boot options prompt, I type in config=Default, as suggested, but this gives me a plethora of errors about files not being findable. Could someone help me out on this? The OS is NS 3.1. I'd sure appreciate it. -Matt
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: AquariumView.BackModule - where??? Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:52:50 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <37f502$q3@machthenext.dannug.dk> Hi, Can anyone out there point me to a server containing the AquariumView.BackModule??? I have all the extra fish, but no bowl to put them in! If someone already has the module, and don t mind using some bandwidth, please feel free to NeXTmail me, at the address below.... Thanks! Best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief DANNUG NEWS % DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/FIP Fundamental Installation Problem Date: 12 Oct 1994 05:50:05 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <37fted$6jh@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <37f4ob$5lk@news.iastate.edu> Matthew B. Grice (mgrice@iastate.edu) wrote: : When I try to boot off the CDROM install floppy, I get : something that looks like this: : NeXT boot1f ......................... Please Post everything that you know about your hardware. -- jham@unlinfo.unl.edu [microSoftWindows free]; /* If only we could de-allocated all of the resources it's consuming so easily. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> Message-ID: <199410120451.AA199767496@relay2.geis.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 22:34:00 UTC Cc: caam1010@servus10.rus.uni-stuttgart.de Subject: CD w/2 filesystems, problems Hello Matthias, >I have a small problem: I own a CD that has two filesystems, the Mac and >the ISO9660 filesystem, on it. >My NeXTstaion recognizes the Mac filesystem before it checks for the >ISO9660 stuff, so the CD is auto-mounted as Mac-CD. The ISO9660 part >of the CD is now unreachable. Is there a way to access the ISO9660 >filesystem? >Can I tell the automounter to not mount the Mac filesystem, but the ISO9660 >filesystem? What can I do? I have built some scripts in order to auto-mount a dual format CDROM as a Macintosh CDROM. Just modify these scripts so that you auto-mount the ISO-9660 instead of the Mac file system. Eric "E.T." 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From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 90 Applications Running Date: 12 Oct 1994 09:27:22 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <37ga5q$9lj@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <37f7tn$ari@anshar.shadow.net> Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: : I just did something with NeXTSTEP I believed impossible with any PC : operating system - running 90 applications simultaneously. This was done : on my P5-90 with 32MB RAM, at 1152x896 72hz 16-bit color. The : system slowed down slightly, and there was relatively little swapping. Ontop : of running these apps, I also played the Scott McNealy QT video from the : NeXTIME CD (200kb/s) with no dropped frames, and perfectly synchronized : sound, while playing DOOM at 200% view (which ran smoothly). Until now, I : thought this could not be done. This seems like a miracle to someone who's : accustomed to running Windows and OS/2 with 2-3 apps, and having to reboot : every half-hour. : Running Apps: [munch] What was the size of your swap? BTW, running 90 apps isn't too surprising, since most of them were swapped out anyway. Now doing 90 compiles at the same it...that would be something. :-> Ross.
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript Date: 12 Oct 1994 10:51:39 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <37gf3r$25ro@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <9410111051.AA09503@estel.uindy.edu> >Next (obvious?) question... are there any third party drivers you >could run under Windows that would produce palatable postscript >for preview? Try Aladin GhostScript 3.0. BTW, Windows PS Code is much more Nextstep-friendly if you turn on "Conform to Adobe DSC" somewhere in an Options... panel of the Windows driver. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: tcsh: triple fat ??? Message-ID: <1994Oct12.102634.638@dbulm1.uucp> Date: 12 Oct 94 10:26:33 +0100 Keywords: tcsh, fat binaries, GNU Distribution: world Organization: Daimler-Benz, Forschungszentrum Ulm Hi, I am looking for a triple fat version of the tcsh shell. Is there any available? I didn't manage to install the gnu version of tcsh correctly, so maybe someone else was more successful. Thanks in advance for all hints. Kind regards Jochen --- ===================================================================== Jochen Gloger, Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm, Institute of Information Technology, Department of Text Understanding Phone: +49 731 505 2353, Fax: +49 731 505 4113 Address: Wilhelm-Runge-Str.11, P.O. Box 23 60, 89013 Ulm, Germany Email: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM =====================================================================
From: peterw@anecdote.com (Peter Wyngaard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: LPD under MS Windows? (was Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript) Date: 12 Oct 1994 17:25:34 GMT Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562) Message-ID: <37h66e$1vs$1@recepsen.aa.msen.com> We would like to be able to print Postscript to a NeXT printer (hanging off a cube) from the MS Windows machines on our LAN. We have WinQVT installed on our Windows machines (which has lpd built in to it), but this is not exactly the way in which we want to work. We would rather just be able to select "Print..." from an application's menu and have the doc appear on the NeXT printer. To get Postscript from MS Windows, we have choosen an Apple Laserwriter as our printer type, and we have selected "print to file". We can't use the WinQVT lpd to print the resulting ps file out because the first character in the file is a '^D' which seems to muck things up. We have to ftp the file over to the NeXT machine, strip off the leading '^D', then print it out. Does anyone know of a printer driver which produces correct ps for the NeXT printer and incorporates lpd-speak? Thanks, Peter
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 2nd NS/FIP intall problem tonite Date: 12 Oct 1994 17:26:42 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <37h68i$fqu@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <37fehg$84s@news.iastate.edu> Matthew B. Grice (mgrice@iastate.edu) wrote: : Registering kmDevice0 : No CDROM drive found : use sd%d, hd%d, or fd%d : root dev?_ : Could someone help me out on this? The OS is NS 3.1. I'd : sure appreciate it. Please post what you know about your hardware. Who made the motherboard/BIOS? What kind of SCSI card?.... And whatever else you can think of, even if you think it's not relevant. -- jham@unlinfo.unl.edu [microSoftWindows free]; /* If only we could de-allocated all of the resources it's consuming so easily. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Subject: 3.3 - when? Message-ID: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> Organization: Cities in Dust Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 18:27:53 GMT Hi, the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? Thanks, Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:/~wolf _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Services no longer run Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 15:27:47 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct12.152747.13716@cyantic.com> I just discovered that all my Services no longer run from any application menu. I can't be sure if this is the problem, but a few weeks ago I transferred my home directory from my local Next machine to a remote Sun server and now access it via NFS. Everything works fine for file access, and there are no other symptoms of problems. In fact, I think I ran Open Sesame from the services menu since I did the switch. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: pzachary@IslandNet.com (Peter Zachary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 4.0 - what and when? Date: 12 Oct 1994 11:21:36 -0700 Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada 604-477-5163 Message-ID: <37h9fg$ku7@Island.amtsgi.bc.ca> Does anyone have information about when 4.0 is due to arrive and what will be new about it? I am particularly interested in possible changes related to debugging\GDB. Thanks in advance...
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: multivolume file copy fails Date: 11 Oct 1994 23:23:58 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <37f6qe$2nr@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <37c2pu$lj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> ..my sad unchunking story deleted... Steve Weintz explained: > The problem is that > Workspace "chunking" 1) assembles, 2) un-tars, then 3) uncompresses WITHOUT DELETING > ANY OF THE INTERMEDIATE FILES. A 70MB archive saved to 20 ED floppies required > ~450 MB to decompress and restore. Blech! My solution was to have a friend > reassemble and decompress them on a Really Big Server. > > -- The problem here is the file I want to transfer is a single binary, and only about 7Mb. I'm trying to use split with a simple cat on the standalone machine. Hopefully it will work. For the future, or in case split/cat fails, is it possible to change the behavior of the multifile copy tool? Dwrites maybe? --- buckley@mayo.edu Noon, Wednesday, October 12 Web of Resistance Demonstration Prarie Island Nuclear Power Plant
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: DBModeler problem-Sybase Login Panel References: <1994Oct10.143740.24469@glv.cen.encompass.com> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 08:57:47 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct12.085747.6102@proximus.north.de> In article <1994Oct10.143740.24469@glv.cen.encompass.com>, <andersen@encmail.encompass.com> wrote: > >When I try to run DBModeler I get a "Can't find Sybase Login Panel" error. >Anyone know why or how it can be fixed? Try to symlink the appropiate Sybase Adaptor (4_0 or 4_6, depending on your libs) to SybaseAdaptor.adaptor. Probably it will work then. cd /NextLibrary/Adaptors ln -s SybaseAdaptor4_6.adaptor SybaseAdaptor.adaptor PS: comp.sys.next does not exist anymore. Gerhard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jeff@smobject.com (Jeff Vega) Subject: Peanuts characters Message-ID: <1994Oct12.220627.26262@cs.uno.edu> Sender: news@cs.uno.edu Organization: University of New Orleans (Computer Science) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 22:06:27 GMT I've looked around for a while for icons of C. Shultz's Peanuts characters.(Charlie, Lucy, Linus, Snoopy..etc) But, I haven't found more than Snoopy. Archie's no help, and I wouldn't know how to do it in Gopher. Does anyone have/know where I could get gifs, tiffs, or icons of ANY of the peanuts characters? Thanks in advance! -- -- Jeff Vega Smart Object Technologies, Inc. (NeXTMail YES!) e-mail: jeff@smobject.com
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 12 Oct 1994 23:11:53 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <37hqfp$lv5@news.service.uci.edu> References: <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> In article <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu>, <patches@cc.usu.edu> wrote: > > > > Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! OK, it's been more than 96 hours. Whats the deal? Kurt
From: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Opener.app and .ps files Date: 13 Oct 1994 00:05:08 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Distribution: world Message-ID: <37htjk$5nn@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Opener.app (3.1.1a I think) will recognize and open .PS files but it doesn't recognize .ps files. On the other hand, the system seems to think it should (i.e. Preview.app does not recognize ps files when you have Opener.app installed) black hardware running 3.2 OS. How do you fix this? -- email: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu, smithw@math.byu.edu
From: howar016@mc.duke.edu (Denise Howard Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Opener.app and .ps files Date: 13 Oct 1994 01:39:00 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <37i33k$o5v@news.duke.edu> References: <37htjk$5nn@hamblin.math.byu.edu> In article <37htjk$5nn@hamblin.math.byu.edu>, Bill Smith <bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu> wrote: >Opener.app (3.1.1a I think) will recognize and open .PS files but it doesn't >recognize .ps files. On the other hand, the system seems >to think it should (i.e. Preview.app does not recognize >ps files when you have Opener.app installed) black hardware >running 3.2 OS. How do you fix this? What's happening here is that the system never understood the capitalized .PS or .EPS suffixes. Sometime before I took over Opener, Michael decided to make Opener recognize them and merely message Preview to display them. Later on I decided to make Opener recognize the lower-case .ps and .eps as well, for consistency. This was not a good decision, though, and in the next release I'm going to take this "feature" back out. In the meantime, you can change the system default app for .ps files. To do this, select a .ps file in the File Viewer, and go to Workspace->Tools-> Inspector. In the inspector panel that appears, pull the popup button down to Tools. You'll see the icon for every app that recognizes .ps, and the current default is the first one. Select a different one (Preview) and don't forget to click the Set Default button. You're done. Denise -- Denise Howard Blakeley | PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS. Duke Med Center Info Systems | It was formerly blake015@mc.duke.edu. Durham, NC | My last name is changing to simply (919) 286-6468 W | Howard.
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 2nd NS/FIP intall problem tonite Date: 12 Oct 1994 23:03:40 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <37i82c$8fr@panix.com> References: <37fehg$84s@news.iastate.edu> In article <37fehg$84s@news.iastate.edu>, Matthew B. Grice <mgrice@iastate.edu> wrote: > >Confused about this, I try doing one of those alternate boots >where I type in something like fd()mach_kernel sd0a . >I have a scsi cdrom drive on scsi id 0 and an IDE HD >that I am installing to. I have removed my main scsi >drive from the system to keep things simple. There's your problem. A little of RTFMing would tell you that the CDROM drive has to be on a SCSI id from 2-6, ie NOT 0 or one. Alec -- Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: LPD under MS Windows? (was Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript) Date: 13 Oct 1994 05:17:05 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <37ifsh$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <37h66e$1vs$1@recepsen.aa.msen.com> Summary: RTFM In article <37h66e$1vs$1@recepsen.aa.msen.com> peterw@anecdote.com (Peter Wyngaard) writes: >To get Postscript from MS Windows, we have choosen an Apple Laserwriter as >our printer type, and we have selected "print to file". We can't use the >WinQVT lpd to print the resulting ps file out because the first character >in the file is a '^D' which seems to muck things up. We have to ftp the >file over to the NeXT machine, strip off the leading '^D', then print it >out. Have you tried editing WIN.INI to turn this "feature" off? |[ModelName,Port] CtrlD=0,1 [default 1] |-------------------------------------- | |Under normal circumstances, the Windows PostScript driver places a |CTRL+D character at the start of a print job to put the printer back |into a clean state, or reset it. Some printers and/or environments do |not want CTRL+D characters placed in the beginning of the PostScript |output. If CtrlD is set to 0, no initial CTRL+D character is |generated. If CtrlD is set to 1, the driver generates CTRL+D |characters if the printer description states that the printer accepts |CTRL+D characters. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: leon@toolcase.com (Leon Farfel) Subject: Re: AquariumView.BackModule - where??? Sender: news@math.enmu.edu (The Garbage Heap) Message-ID: <1994Oct13.054909.11839@math.enmu.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 05:49:09 GMT References: <37f502$q3@machthenext.dannug.dk> Organization: Eastern New Mexico University, Department of Mathematical Sciences In article <37f502$q3@machthenext.dannug.dk> work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) writes: > Hi, > > Can anyone out there point me to a server containing the > AquariumView.BackModule??? > I have all the extra fish, but no bowl to put them in! > check ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de it was there 2 weeks ago. good luck. lEoN.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Message-ID: <CxK0Fw.7tA@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <37acte$fcu@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 09:45:31 GMT In article <37acte$fcu@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes: > patches@cc.usu.edu wrote: > : Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! > > Hmm...let's guess.... > [Matt's guesses deleted] OK, I'll have a few guesses myself: *) patches@cc.usu.edu passes his final exams *) Total eclipse of the Sun *) Total eclipse of the IBM ;-) *) SGI commits to OpenStep *) IBM commits to OpenStep *) NeXT's development team commits the final changes to NS3.3 *) Bill Gates commits suicide. -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de) 'intel inside' stickers look best on toilet lids
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 13 Oct 1994 09:09:19 -0400 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Message-ID: <37jbhv$ggg@oclc.org> References: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> Thomas Wolfram (thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de) wrote: : Hi, : the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? Contrary to what I'd been expecting, I got info from my NeXT rep yesterday saying that NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 is currently on target to ship in the first half of December 1994. 8-( -- Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for a kind soul with 3.1 system Date: 13 Oct 1994 13:29:40 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <37jco4$ir4@news1.digex.net> Hi, I'm looking for someone who can compile a program for me under NextStep 3.1. I recently upgraded to 3.2 and had a crash which took out one particular utility that I really liked. (It was in /bin instead of /usr/local/bin, so it didn't get backed up...) This utility won't compile under 3.2, but runs like a charm. If you have such a system and can compile something for me, please let me know. Thanks, David.
From: schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Variable Login Panels Date: 13 Oct 1994 13:52:57 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <37je3p$c9q@news.tamu.edu> i've just started to play with changing the loginpanels with the dwrite function. Is it possible to set up the system to change the login panel every time you log out, without having to type exit at the login prompt? Right now I have set up the crontab file to dwrite a different tiff for every day of the week. Since I am running a stand-alone NeXTstation which gets turned on every morning this should work fine. For further info, I am running Nextstep vs 3.2. Please making any suggestions as to shell programming pretty specific, since I am rather ignorant in this area. thanks, HP schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: New System Disk, Best way to Transition? Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:57:22 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA Message-ID: <37jhsi$kto@newsflash.mitre.org> I've ordered a new external disk for my NeXTStation that will serve as my system disk and primary storage disk. (The internal disk currently functions as my swap disk.) What is the best way to transition NS3.2 and my personal files to the new disk, from the current disk? I've thought of two ways: 1. Dump (using dump) from my old system disk to my DAT device, and restore (using restore) to the new disk. (Never actually had to do an image restore, so a little skit- ish about doing it this way). 2. Dump (using SafetyNet) all of my non-NS3.2 files to a SafetyNet archive; use builddisk to move NS3.2 to the new disk; restore, using, SafetyNet the non-NS3.2 archive. Anybody have opinions on these strategies? Which would be less of a headache? Any other strategies that that someone would like to mention? Thanks much. - Max | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 | | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology | | NeXTMail: bill@pandora.gcr.com \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 | | | | Opinions expressed are my own. Who else would want them? |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: printing on long pages - anybody tried it? Message-ID: <1994Oct13.162507.3400@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:25:07 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) Organization: Institut fuer Informatik Hello As the subject says, I would like to print on long pages. The setup is: Colour NeXT turbo with NeXT colour printer. The printer can print on A3 (length:42cm) but I would like to print on a paper with the width of A3 but a length of 100cm. This is not possible with the current ppd. Has anybody managed to change the ppd descriptions so that this kind of thing could work? Does the printer check the paper length by means of hardware, or is it the software? Any chances at all? Thanks for you responses in advance -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com> Subject: Regenerating NeXT-supplied indexes Message-ID: <1994Oct13.153951.1463@afs.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: michael@afs.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:39:51 GMT What exactly are the ixbuild options NeXT uses to generate the indexes for the documentation directories they ship with NS? I have to regenerate the index for the man pages, plus I'd like to gen some indexes for my own stuff in the same way. Thanx, Michael --- Michael Pizolato, CTO Vox: 215/653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems Inc. I'm not fat, I'm MAB!
From: wucolin@popeye (Colin Wu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Variable Login Panels Date: 13 Oct 1994 15:54:28 GMT Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (NewServer) Message-ID: <37jl7k$dni@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> References: <37je3p$c9q@news.tamu.edu> Hanspeter Schaub (schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote: : i've just started to play with changing the loginpanels with the dwrite : function. Is it possible to set up the system to change the login panel : every time you log out, without having to type exit at the login prompt? : Right now I have set up the crontab file to dwrite a different tiff for : every day of the week. Since I am running a stand-alone NeXTstation which : gets turned on every morning this should work fine. For further info, : I am running Nextstep vs 3.2. : Please making any suggestions as to shell programming pretty specific, : since I am rather ignorant in this area. : thanks, : HP : schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu I use a perl script called 'randLoginTiff' as my loginhook. It could be a logouthook as well, I suppose. Here's the script: #!/usr/local/bin/perl # # Program to randomly set the login screen # #--- Set some environment variables just to keep suidperl happy. $ENV{'PATH'} = '/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/ucb/bin'; $ENV{'SHELL'} = '/bin/sh' if $ENV{'SHELL'} ne ''; $ENV{'IFS'} = '' if $ENV{'IFS'} ne ''; $RealUID = $<; $< = $>; # $TiffDir is where you keep your login panels. $TiffDir = '/NextLibrary/Images/Login'; srand(time|$$); opendir (DIR, $TiffDir) || die "Can't open $TiffDir: $!\n"; @TiffList = grep(/\.tiff$/, readdir(DIR)); closedir (DIR); $theTiff = rand($#TiffList); system ("/usr/bin/dwrite loginwindow ImageFile $TiffDir/$TiffList[$theTiff]"); @joblist = `ps -ax | grep WindowServer`; ($pid, $junk) = split (' ',$joblist[0],2); #---- end of randLoginTiff This script has to run as SUID (actually I'm not sure if it does. Anyone know for sure?) so you'll have to use suidscript to fix it. (suidscript comes with the Perl distribution.) Basically the script builds a list of available login panel tiffs in the specified directory and randomly choses a new one each time you login (if you it as the loginhook) so the next time you logout you get a new panel. email me if you have any problems getting this going. -- __ _ _ Colin Wu / ) // ' ) / Network Analyst / __|/ o ____ / / / . . Computing & Information Services (__/ (_) \_<_/ / <_ (_(_/ (_/_ McMaster University (905)525-9140 ext 24050 If trains stop at train stations, what happens at work stations?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> Subject: Anyone with Canon's PowerHouse Systems, or NeXT PowerPC effort? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941013034249.19332C-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 07:50:00 GMT I would like to correspond with anyone who was involved in the original NeXT dual PowerPC workstation effort or who is now working with the PowerHouse subsidiary of Canon. As I posted from my America On-Line account the other day, I am researching the PPC platform shift for my PhD. I have come to the conclusion that Canon has the most interesting contribution to make amongst the non-big-three part of the PPC group. They have NeXT Step software, extremely interesting video and I/O stuff from their object.station line, are strategically placed in Japan and also have a bunch of other technologies that IBM is interested in like color inkjet and s promising LCD technology. I am thinking that the Canon-IBM relationship has the potential to become extremely strong and interdependent. Anyone have anything they'd be willing to share? I can establish my purely academic credentials if that is important. Also does Canon/Powerhouse have a WWW server of anonymouus FTP site that would have any interesting documents? Thanks a bunch. Matt
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: New System Disk, Best way to Transition? Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:37:01 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <37juod$63o@panix.com> References: <37jhsi$kto@newsflash.mitre.org> In article <37jhsi$kto@newsflash.mitre.org>, William Herndon <wherndon@smiley.mitre.org> wrote: >I've ordered a new external disk for my NeXTStation that will serve as >my system disk and primary storage disk. (The internal disk currently >functions as my swap disk.) What is the best way to transition NS3.2 >and my personal files to the new disk, from the current disk? [...] >Anybody have opinions on these strategies? Which would be less of a >headache? Any other strategies that that someone would like to mention? How about just using dd(1). Alec -- Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
From: sottilej@clipper.robadome.com (Joseph J. Sottile) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 13 Oct 1994 17:11:36 GMT Organization: Siemens Rolm Communications Inc. Message-ID: <37jpo8$htd@dodge.eng.sc.rolm.com> References: <379i7n$3vv7@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> >In article <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> writes: >> >> >> >> Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! > >This is like the line in 2010: Odyssey 2. > >Well geez, what the heck will it be? Microsoft will implode and become just a bad memory? ;-) Please tell me it's true!
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 4.0 - what and when? Date: 13 Oct 1994 19:33:45 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <37k22p$82d@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <37h9fg$ku7@Island.amtsgi.bc.ca> ) Does anyone have information about when 4.0 is due to arrive and ) what will be new about it? I am particularly interested in possible ) changes related to debugging\GDB. The third issue of NEXT IN LINE (Nov/Dec) will have a story on what is new for developers in 4.0. Check there, when it comes out, for all the details that were given at expo. The release date was given to be around next summer or so...which I guess means that you won't see it sooner than the next expo and probably no later than a year from now... -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.games.doom,alt.games.doom.announce,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.games,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: CFV: rec.games.computer.doom.* groups Followup-To: poster Date: 13 Oct 1994 15:56:29 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <rec.games.computer.doom-reorg-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> References: <rec.games.computer.doom-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group rec.games.computer.doom.announce unmoderated group rec.games.computer.doom.help unmoderated group rec.games.computer.doom.misc unmoderated group rec.games.computer.doom.editing unmoderated group rec.games.computer.doom.playing Newsgroups lines: rec.games.computer.doom.announce Info/FAQs/reviews about DOOM. (Moderated) rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (new players welcome). rec.games.computer.doom.misc Talking about DOOM and id Software. rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing and hacking DOOM-related files. rec.games.computer.doom.playing Playing DOOM and user-created levels. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 3 November 1994. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the proposed groups contact John Van Essen <vanes002@maroon.tc.umn.edu>. PURPOSE The rec.games.computer.doom hierarchy is for discussing various topics relating to the popular action-oriented computer game DOOM, written by id Software, and its sequels and user-written add-ons. It would also consolidate DOOM-related discussion currently underway in other newsgroups. It is intended for world-wide distribution. This proposal also establishes a new rec.games.computer newsgroup subhierarchy for games that run on general-purpose computers. CHARTERS ======== rec.games.computer.doom.announce Info/FAQs/reviews about DOOM. (Moderated) The sort of postings likely to be to be approved by the moderator are general announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of DOOM players. Examples of these types of articles are: - Anything from id Software - New PWAD and LMP announcements - Announcements of new versions of utilities like DEU and DEHACKED - Tourney announcements - FTP site news (downtime, user limits, etc) - FAQs and similarly informative documents - Reviews of user-written PWADs The current moderator of alt.games.doom.announce, Tony Lezard, says that he'd be happy to moderate this newsgroup using the current addresses: Submit: doom@mantis.co.uk Contact: doom-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.announce. rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (new players welcome). This unmoderated newsgroup is the headquarters of the DOOM Help Service. Readers new to USENET or to DOOM who post questions here will receive a flame-free friendly response from experienced USENETters and DOOM players. Game setup, hardware problems, modem/network setup, secrets, cheats, how to get DOOM and related utilities are a few examples of suitable topics. Questions about modifying/editing levels belong in the .editing group. This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.newplayers. rec.games.computer.doom.misc Talking about DOOM and id Software. Here is where discussion occurs about non-play-related issues that aren't suitable (or only marginally so) for the other subgroups. Examples are FTP issues, ports of DOOM to other systems, piracy, "DOOM - the Movie", DOOM II vs. DOOM, what's the best soundcard, DOOM-related ads, comparisons with other games, magazine articles, people at id and their cars, future id plans (Quake). In general, if it isn't about actually playing or editing DOOM, post it here. rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing and hacking DOOM-related files. Discussion here covers modifying the DOOM environment, especially the EXE and WAD files. There are many user-written utilities available that do these types of things. Some authors and experienced users can answer questions about design techniques and using the utilities. Examples of topics are effects of design error (HOM, Medusa), design problems in user-written PWADs, modifying default DOOM behavior, utility enhancements. Comments or questions about playing user-written PWADs (opinions, keys, secrets, etc.) should not be posted here - post in .playing instead. rec.games.computer.doom.playing Playing DOOM and user-created levels. Discussion about playing DOOM takes place here (not only about playing id's original levels, but also about playing user-written PWADs). Topics include how to find secrets, keyboard/mouse movement techniques, side-effects of playing DOOM, where to find good PWADS (and which ones are favorites), deathmatch experiences, and so forth. Tournament discussions and multi-player topics can go here, too. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr) Subject: Re: Newton connection kit Message-ID: <1994Oct12.172237.674@mjw.octagon.de> Sender: mane@mjw.octagon.de Organization: Microcomputer-Jobs and Workouts References: <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 17:22:37 GMT In article <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) writes: > Count me in, too. Me too!! -- Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de --
From: jdoe@agatha.art.nd.edu (J Doe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: Art Project Participants Date: 13 Oct 1994 21:14:53 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Message-ID: <37k80d$mf4@news.nd.edu> MFA student seeks volunteers to particupate in a 2 part Internet Identity project. Part 1 will take approximately 10-15 minutes. Part 2 will require your permission. You will be free to withdraw after part 1 if you wish. If interested, please reply to jdoe@agatha.art.nd.edu Thank-you Stephanie
From: schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: got NEXT IN LINE Date: 13 Oct 1994 22:33:24 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <37kcjk$slq@news.tamu.edu> Received my first issue of NEXT IN LINE (#2 issue) today. I was very pleased to see a magazine covering Nextstep again. Congratulations to the people involved in getting this together. You have obviously put a lot of work into it! HP
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Falcon Systems as VAR for Canon Object.station Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:29:08 -0400 Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department Distribution: na Message-ID: <37kcbk$193@condor.cs.jhu.edu> Falcon Systems has applied to be a VAR for the Canon Object.station. However, Canon is requiring Falcon to commit to a minimum number of of systems. Without significant interest from the NeXT community, Falcon can't make that commitment. If your interested in the Canon Object.station, and you would like to deal with a reliable supplier, please call Michael Hyatt at Falcon Systems, (800)326-1002. Yes, Canon may be a reliable supplier, if your willing to pay full list and deal with finding someone in their customer service department familiar with this relatively minor product. Falcon is a nation wide supplier of computers and peripherals, including HP systems, disk drives, memory and, if the VAR application is accepted, Intel systems which work with NeXTstep. We have used them as our peripheral supplier for NeXTstations for about a year now and have never had a problem. I'm not affiliated with, nor do I speak for, Falcon systems. I am, however, a very satisfied customer of theirs who would like to see them sell the Canon Object.station. Christopher D. Audley Watch Hill Investment Partners
From: harrison@clark.net (Harrison Consulting) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How NeXT dropped the ball with 4.0 - NOT Date: 14 Oct 1994 01:26:41 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <37kmoh$2oo@clarknet.clark.net> References: <SWIET.94Oct7175524@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> <374pkc$11i@rosie.next.com> <374sgq$rbm@xmission.xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit kris (kris@xmission.com) wrote: : Mike_Paquette@next.com wrote: : : In article <SWIET.94Oct7175524@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu : : (Alexander Swietlicki) writes: : : > I've heard and used the word mutable before. However, neither I nor : : Digital : : > Webster knows what "grok" means. :-) : : Eh? Grok means 'drink'. : It also means "to understand deeply." : .......................kris : -- : Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : "The word may once have been a healthy neural cell. It is now a parasitic : organism that invades and damages the central nervous system." You are limiting the meaning of "grok" severely! To do it justice you must read Heinlein's "Stranger In A Strange Land." Scott.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: anjrober@ziti.journalism.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson) Subject: communications software Message-ID: <Cxn2sq.2n3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 01:29:13 GMT Does anyone know where I can get a decent freeware or shareware GUI based communication application. I need something that will work with a 14.4 modem and allow me to change protocals (xmodem, kermit, etc.). Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also if you could please email me any info I would be grateful, I do not have the time to keep up with this group. Thanks -- --Andrew--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) Subject: ROM Monitor Message-ID: <Cxn5Gr.LE3@usa.net> Sender: news@usa.net (News) Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 02:26:50 GMT When booting, my next goes into self-test loop. After cancelling the loop, I am left in Rom Monitor mode and I have to "b sd" to get back to the GUI. help me get back to a GUI startup. eric
From: Rene.Kulschewski@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New System Disk, Best way to Transition? Date: 13 Oct 1994 21:47:12 GMT Organization: The Fair Affair Distribution: world Message-ID: <37k9t0$v4@rkt.in-berlin.de> References: <37jhsi$kto@newsflash.mitre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit William Herndon writes ] What is the best way to transition NS3.2 ] and my personal files to the new disk, from the current disk? ] ] I've thought of two ways: ] ] 1. Dump (using dump) from my old system disk to my DAT device, and ] restore (using restore) to the new disk. ] Today i reformatted my disk. First a full dump to Tape, then booting from CD, reformatted the drive, mounted the drive under /tmp and issued: restore rvf /dev/rst0. No problem occured, so i would say you could do it the same way without any hassle. Good luck Rene' -- ____________________________________________________________________________ <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Date: 14 Oct 1994 10:22:41 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <37lm5h$2npf@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> >the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? All rumours indicate that we might have it by the end of the year. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: peterw@anecdote.com (Peter Wyngaard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: LPD under MS Windows? (was Re: MS Windows <===> NEXTSTEP Using Postscript) Date: 14 Oct 1994 14:20:18 GMT Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562) Message-ID: <37m433$rkn$1@recepsen.aa.msen.com> References: <37h66e$1vs$1@recepsen.aa.msen.com> In article <37h66e$1vs$1@recepsen.aa.msen.com> peterw@anecdote.com (Peter Wyngaard) writes: > > We would like to be able to print Postscript to a NeXT printer (hanging > off a cube) from the MS Windows machines on our LAN. > [body deleted] > > Does anyone know of a printer driver which produces correct ps for the > NeXT printer and incorporates lpd-speak? > Russ Walker <rsww@cloud9.net> mailed me the following, and I was up and running in about an hour. As far as the CTRL-D issue is concerned, In article <37ifsh$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: > > Have you tried editing WIN.INI to turn this "feature" off? > the distribution of wlprs40a that I got (try 'archie wlprs40a.zip') even came with a nifty program which automatically edits your WIN.INI file to toggle the CTRL-D feature for any printer you have installed. You don't have to be running WFW. wlprs40a works with many other TCP/IP stacks. > I am able to do this using windows for workgroups, > microsoft tcp/ip and lprs40a winsock app. Once you get > windows for workgroups installed on the pc, the microsoft > tcp/ip is free just ftp it from ftp.microsoft.com > /bussys/MSclient/WFW/WFWT32.EXE it just self extracts to > a floppy then you install the protocol for the adaptor > your using, select the unlisted or updated protocol > option, stick in the disk and it installs. Run the setup > for the protocol to customize it to your network setup, > save then reboot. The lprs40a is available at just about > any winsock ftp site, it's shareware, but it's worth the > $15, the postscript driver that works the best > (flawlessly) is the AGFA Postscript 400PS. The Apple > LaserWriter generates postscript that the NeXTstep chokes > on. Setup the NeXTprinter for networking, configure > lprs40a to print to the NeXTprinter lpr queue, and set > the option to -n in the setup panel for lprs40a or nothing > happens when you go to print (-n means no filtering). > Then you'll be able to print to the AGFA printer from > any application and it'll come out flawlessly on the > NeXTprinter. > > -Ross Walker -(rsww@cloud9.net)
From: schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 14 Oct 1994 14:24:45 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: world Message-ID: <37m4bd$kbe@news.tamu.edu> References: <CxKoMH.3Cy@aeon.in-berlin.de> <37lm5h$2npf@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Markus Wenzel (wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote: : >the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? : All rumours indicate that we might have it by the end of the year. Heard it should be available by the end of November. : : -- : // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // : // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // : // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.next.misc From: v$imikeb@vnet.ibm.com (Mike Brown) Subject: Re: Anyone got OS/2 and NeXT running on the same machine??? Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id) Message-ID: <Cxo7E9.4Fw1@austin.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 16:06:09 GMT References: <36q4pg$1lb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Organization: IBM OS/2 Commercial and Premier Software Developer Support In message <36q4pg$1lb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> - rrn@po.CWRU.Edu (Robert R. Novits key) writes: > >Hello: > >I was wondering if anyone has managed to get OS/2 and NeXT on the same >machine using some sort of Boot Manager? If so, who's boot manager did you >end up using, NeXT's or OS/2's? Yep, it's running on my Dell 466/ME. I use the OS/2 Boot Manager. Install OS/2, including BootManager first. Leave unallocated space on the disk for NeXTStep. Install NeXTStep and then fix the Master Boot Record with DOS fdisk /mbr. This will give BootManager control back and not use NeXT's booter. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Brown OS/2 Application Developer Support
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Diagram 2 clone on Motif Date: 14 Oct 94 18:34:02 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.782159642@coricopat> References: <37dlm8$fee@vega.info.isbiel.ch> schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) writes: > I've here an exact clone of Diagram 2 on a SUN (Motif). It name is > VisualThought from Confluent Inc (vthought@confluent.com). >Any comments ? Impossible. Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de www: http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: 90 Applications Running Message-ID: <Cxo737.LE@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <37ga5q$9lj@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 15:59:30 GMT In article <37ga5q$9lj@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes: > Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: > : [...] > > What was the size of your swap? BTW, running 90 apps isn't too surprising, > since most of them were swapped out anyway. Now doing 90 compiles at the > same it...that would be something. :-> Ross. If he did a lot of interaction between the apps like drag'n drop it would be interesting to hear about the system behaviour. Was the pasteboard useable? Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, == when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung) Subject: Star Trek NEXTIME QuickTime Movies Message-ID: <1994Oct14.225007.8142@radical2.radical.com> Keywords: NEXTIME QuickTime Movies Star Trek Sender: news@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 22:50:07 GMT I located some Star Trek movies in QuickTime format that do seem to work with NEXTIME just fine. I think they are samples from the upcoming Star Trek The Next Generation Technical Manual CD-ROM. Here's where to find them: FTP Site: ftp.netcom.com Directory: /pub/flypba/QuickTime -rw-r--r-- 1 15290 1159045 Oct 4 22:31 STSICKPAN.MOV.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 15290 1208851 Oct 4 22:19 STWALK.MOV.gz NOTE: You will have to rename the file to all lower case for NEXTIME to recognize it. STWALK.MOV is an excellent demo clip!!!!!! Enjoy!!!! -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: heinsius@nsdssq.lbl.gov (fritz heinsius) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RTF to Postscript converter Date: 15 Oct 1994 00:16:07 GMT Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory Distribution: world Message-ID: <37n707$1hr@overload.lbl.gov> I want to print some Next documentation written in rtf, but I have only remote access to a NeXT. That means opening the file in Edit and saving from the print panel does not work. Has anybody a program to convert a next-rtf file to postscript? By the way, I tried to read the rtf-file with Microsoft Word on a PC and Mac, but the format and some characters were wrong. Thanks for any help, Fritz Non-next Mail: fhheinsius@lbl.gov
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TALUS Support Date: 15 Oct 1994 02:15:11 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <37ndvf$o4c@news.mic.ucla.edu> Now that I have found out about NeXT's $120/question support cost, I must say Talus' free post-sale support is not only refreshing, but should also be a major purchasing factor. J ust an opinion... Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
From: kitana!sysop@caprica.com (JL Gomez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Using NS as a news server Date: 15 Oct 1994 12:58:47 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199410151754.AA05953@kitana.org> Can anyone comment on the performance of using NS as a news server running either INN or C-News? I'm currently using my personal machine as an INN newserver running Linux. Running several FAST SCSI-2 drives, I don't notice a slowdown. I also run several BBS's on this same machine with several incoming V.32bis lines. Thanks for the candid opinions. -- sysop@kitana.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: willisma@tch0.cs.jmu.edu (matt a willis ) Subject: NS 3.2 install - HELP! Message-ID: <Cxq9us.JAu@hub.cs.jmu.edu> Sender: newsusr@hub.cs.jmu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: James Madison University Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 18:54:28 GMT I'm having trouble installing NeXTstep 3.2 on a machine with the following configuration: Zeos 486 w/ 32Mb IDE hard drive Adaptec 6360 SCSI adapter NEC 2x CD ROM I have obtained the device driver for the SCSI adapter from NeXT. The problem I'm having is that during installation, my keyboard locks up. Either it locks or I get a repeating error message: PS/2Keyboard/HandleACK: Unexpected ACK from Keyboard I've tried the fix suggested in NeXT help file #1480 to type the following command at the boot: prompt: "Boot Drivers"="PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B DPT2012 IDE Floppy" but this does not work. Any suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Matt@sunrise.cs.jmu.edu
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone got NT3.5 and NeXT running on the same machine??? Date: 15 Oct 1994 23:45:59 GMT Organization: Internetworks, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <37ppjn$7fd@pdx1.i.net> References: <Cxo7E9.4Fw1@austin.ibm.com> Can you use the Windows NT bootmanager to manage a NS partition? I want to install NT3.5 and NSFIP on on HD.. Thanks -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications steve@eps.com >> http://www.eps.com
From: Wilbur Gayle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newton connection kit Date: 16 Oct 1994 01:50:47 GMT Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems Message-ID: <37q0tn$r0n@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <1994Oct12.172237.674@mjw.octagon.de> In article <1994Oct12.172237.674@mjw.octagon.de> mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr) writes: > In article <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu > (Steve Weintz) writes: > > Count me in, too. > > Me too!! > -- > Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de > -- Me too!!!! -- Regards, Wil Gayle U S West Communications
From: TerryH@ix.netcom.com (Terry Haggin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how many monitors can you use at once? Date: 16 Oct 1994 03:27:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <37q6jm$nrr@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Hello, I have an extra 030 cube that I would like to use as a telemarketing server. What I would like to do is hook up 5 monitors and keyboards to my cube so that the telemarketers can all login at the same time and do their data entries separately. I am wondering if I need a cube for each monitor or can I have 5 monitors and one cube? The 030 cube has 16 mgs of RAM, a 660 HD and a MO drive. Please post or e-mail me directly, thanks for all the help, Terry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@toppoint.de (Manfred R hr) Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Message-ID: <Cxro37.Dy@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Rphr) References: <37m4bd$kbe@news.tamu.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 12:59:31 GMT In article <37m4bd$kbe@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) writes: > Markus Wenzel (wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote: > > : >the subject says it all. When can we expect 3.3? > > : All rumours indicate that we might have it by the end of the year. > > Heard it should be available by the end of November. > : > : -- > : // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // > : // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // > : // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de // Wann kommt eigentlich 3.5? Manfred -- --------------------------------------------------------------- * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Message-ID: <1994Oct15.151132.432@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. References: <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 15:11:32 GMT In article <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> writes: > > > > Something Wonderful will happen in just 4 days! Um. It's been about 7 days. Did something wonderfull happen? I think Jupiter is still out there... david john
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 16 Oct 1994 20:49:17 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <37s3kd$j68@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <1994Oct8.143813.29212@cc.usu.edu> <1994Oct15.151132.432@kira.net.netcom.com> David John Burrowes (netcom.com!kira!davidjohn) wrote: : Um. It's been about 7 days. Did something wonderfull happen? I think : Jupiter is still out there... I'm waiting, too. Maybe the wonderful thing happened, but there won't be a public announcement due to a non-disclosure agreement. Maybe nothing wonderful happened. I understand, from somebody at NeXT, that it is something of "epic" proportions. He couldn't say what it was, of course. I'm tired of being teased. I smell Microsoft, though. I bet it has something to do with them. -- jham@unlinfo.unl.edu [microSoftWindows free]; /* If only we could de-allocated all of the resources it's consuming so easily. */
From: uk05899@mik.uky.edu (christopher edward etesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Networking NeXT and Mac? Date: 16 Oct 94 22:24:43 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <uk05899.782346283@mik.uky.edu> Can anyone provide a guide, FAQ, or any other sources on how to this? I have a Centris 660av and 040 NeXT mono station that I would like to make into a simple network at home. The 660AV has an ethernet port on the back and I do know alot about networking Mac's, but this is my first try with a NeXT to the Mac. Any info appreciated..... TIA - Chris Etesse .
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MIDI Interface cable for black h/w Message-ID: <1994Oct17.082133.680@tanuki.twics.com> Date: 17 Oct 94 08:21:33 JST Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access] Does anyone know of a readymade cable (preferred) or the pinouts (I can solder Mini-8 DINs, but prefer not to) for a cable between an 040 Turbo slab and an Opcode Studio 3 MIDI interface? Thanks in advance. Hugh
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 17 Oct 1994 00:35:11 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <37sgs0$om7@network.ucsd.edu> References: <37s3kd$j68@crcnis1.unl.edu> jonathan ham (jham@unlinfo.unl.edu) wrote: : Maybe nothing wonderful happened. I understand, from somebody at : NeXT, that it is something of "epic" proportions. He couldn't say : what it was, of course. I'm tired of being teased. : I smell Microsoft, though. I bet it has something to do with them. May be scary...As An Unnamed Computer Executive High Up In The Industry Who Wants To Stay Anonymous once said in the Wall Street Journal, has there ever been company that went into a partnership with Microsoft that turned out good for that company? Kind of like making love to an 800 pound titanium-barbed porcupine. "epic"? {ooh 'epic' can be bad} Either Taligent dies in favor of NextStep, {Apple makes system 8 module to run on top of NS. AIX continues to accrete and fester.} or Cairo/OLE2 dies in favor of NextStep, {MS makes OLE2 module to run on top of NS. 3rd party vendors slaving for years to make NT apps once again get the shaft. MS shows off NextStep apps in secret internal development for years. Novell, as baffled as usual, buys defunct NT, proceeds to shove Netware into its kernel too.} (Spin doctors from MS and Apple and IBM pass it off as 'yeah we planned it this way, really') James Cameron and Steven Spielberg plan new 300 megabuck movie, "The Terminator's List". Clancy writes the screenplay. Black Stealth Hardware all the Way. Next gets back into hardware. Orders for the film production alone and christmas merchandising triple Next's revenue. Alien space craft land in Mountain View, hold press conference saying that PDO is the Galaxy's de-facto very distributed object standard, and that nobody ever got Abducted for buying NextStep. "CORBA is irrelevant. POSIX is irrelevant. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated." Steve Jobs recommended for Canonization by the Pope, {Catholic Church changes Lords prayer to "Jesus Christ is the NeXT Big Thing. Go for the PPC with the RCC!"} Michael Dahmus stops posting flames to Usenet. {Faust to Mephistopheles: "Hey. Have you noticed an unusual chill in the air 'round here recently?"}
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 16 Oct 1994 19:31:41 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <37snmd$nmg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <37s3kd$j68@crcnis1.unl.edu> <37sgs0$om7@network.ucsd.edu> In article <37sgs0$om7@network.ucsd.edu>, Matt Kennel <mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu> wrote: >jonathan ham (jham@unlinfo.unl.edu) wrote: >: Maybe nothing wonderful happened. I understand, from somebody at >: NeXT, that it is something of "epic" proportions. He couldn't say >: what it was, of course. I'm tired of being teased. > >: I smell Microsoft, though. I bet it has something to do with them. > >May be scary...As An Unnamed Computer Executive High Up In The Industry >Who Wants To Stay Anonymous once said in the Wall Street Journal, >has there ever been company that went into a partnership with Microsoft >that turned out good for that company? Kind of like making love to >an 800 pound titanium-barbed porcupine. and some possibilites are listed. in my opinion, there's sadly no way that microsoft will give up on chicage. perhaps ibm might give up on taligent. my bet for the big microsoft announcemt is that next and microsoft will agree to work together on a port of nextstep of cairo and that their objects will talk to each other via corba or one of the many standards. Microsoft has a problem as I see it. since cairo will be yet another new os, that runs windows 3.1 apps, why should one buy it before other os's. the reason of course is because big brother (MS) will protect them from the hard realities of the world. But I expect their won't be many apps available when it ships that take advantage of its builtin capabilities. if ns or openstep was ported ahead of time, then they could at least run ns apps. -nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Newton connection kit Message-ID: <Cxs8v6.3FH@muaddib.m.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <37q0tn$r0n@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 20:28:18 GMT In article <37q0tn$r0n@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Wilbur Gayle writes: | In article <1994Oct12.172237.674@mjw.octagon.de> mane@mjw.octagon.de | (Manfred W"uhr) writes: | > In article <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu | > (Steve Weintz) writes: | > > Count me in, too. | > | > Me too!! | > -- | > Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de | > -- | | Me too!!!! | -- | Regards, | | Wil Gayle | U S West Communications Now, I think there is only one way to connect your Newton to your NEXSTEP.Box. Buy the Newton Connection kit for Microsoft Windows and install SoftPC for Windows on your NeXTSTEP box. There is a serial cabel inside with mini-Din 8 on the one, an 25pins on the other side. For PC-NeXTSTEP simply connect this cabel to your serial port. Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- Michael Maximilian Goedel NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de LiNUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: RTF to Postscript converter Message-ID: <Cxs96p.3GA@muaddib.m.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <37n707$1hr@overload.lbl.gov> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 20:35:12 GMT In article <37n707$1hr@overload.lbl.gov> heinsius@nsdssq.lbl.gov (fritz heinsius) writes: | I want to print some Next documentation written in rtf, but I have only | remote access to a NeXT. That means opening the file in Edit and saving | from the print panel does not work. | | Has anybody a program to convert a next-rtf file to postscript? | By the way, I tried to read the rtf-file with Microsoft Word on a PC and Mac, | but the format and some characters were wrong. | | Thanks for any help, | | Fritz | Non-next Mail: fhheinsius@lbl.gov | For converting your rft-text using with Word e.g. you need 42tools ASCII.Convert, because of the different tables, NeXT, Mac an PC uses. Yes , there is a rtf2ps on the archive... Nice Greetings from Munich -- Michael Maximilian Goedel NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de LiNUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: dhurter@world.std.com (Don Hurter) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 22:34:22 -0700 Organization: Skinny's Smurf and Turf BBQ Pit Distribution: inet Message-ID: <dhurter-1610942234220001@flipper.sirius.com> References: <37s1dk$406@galaxy.ucr.edu> <RATINOX.94Oct16210713@delphi.ccs.neu.edu> In article <RATINOX.94Oct16210713@delphi.ccs.neu.edu>, ratinox@ccs.neu.edu (Stainless Steel Rat) wrote: > >>>>> "Victor" == Victor the Cleaner <96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu> writes: > > Victor> Hi, I am torn between NeXTStep for Intel and Solaris for Intel. Can > Victor> Anyone give me some advice? > > Well, if you're willing to wait a couple of months, you can have both. > OpenStep is currently being (if not already) ported to run on top of a > Solaris 2.4 kernel. You should confirm the hardware requirements of either OS before purchasing the machine and its components. I haven't used Solaris/Intel, but I know that plug-in cards for NS need to be selected with some care (particularly the video card). Victor> And, since I am a student, is there an educational discount? For NeXTSTEP, yes. I've lost track these days, but the edu price for NS with _all_ the development tools is in the ballpark price of $295-395. Someone else in the c.s.n group might have the right figures. I'm curious to see how Solaris/OpenStep works out. It could prove to be a popular option for fence-sitters who need Solaris compatability but desire the advanced features of NS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: TALUS Support Message-ID: <CxtB8u.Ep1@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <37ndvf$o4c@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 10:17:18 GMT In article <37ndvf$o4c@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > > Now that I have found out about NeXT's $120/question support cost, I must > say Talus' free post-sale support is not only refreshing, but should also > be a major purchasing factor. J ust an opinion... Really? How did you reach them? I've been trying to get support from them for their ATI PCI display driver, which doesn't work on my machine, but they never even acknowledged that they got my mail. -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) 'intel inside' stickers look best on toilet lids
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: brouwer@mickey.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer) Subject: Re: tcsh: triple fat ??? Message-ID: <CxtG71.ArD@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Keywords: tcsh, fat binaries, GNU Sender: news@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany References: <1994Oct12.102634.638@dbulm1.uucp> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 12:04:12 GMT In <1994Oct12.102634.638@dbulm1.uucp> gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger) writes: >Hi, >I am looking for a triple fat version of the tcsh shell. Is there any >available? I didn't manage to install the gnu version of tcsh correctly, so >maybe someone else was more successful. >Thanks in advance for all hints. > Kind regards > Jochen There is one on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in ..../next/Unix/shell (I think). Look there... Bye, Klaus Brouwer
From: pajarola@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NextTime Date: 17 Oct 1994 12:59:46 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Sender: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch (R. Pajarola) Message-ID: <37tsg2$jfh@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Keywords: NextTime Hi folks, I was wondering about NextTime and how to get it. It isn't installed in NS3.2 isn't it ? I do have to get it from somewhere, right ? So, where can I get it, do I have to buy it ? I own a NextStation for a few years now, but regarding NextTime I'm a newbie. Renato ____________________________________________________________________________ Renato B. Pajarola NeXT-mail OK ETH / Swiss Federal Institute of Technology email: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch Haldeneggsteig 4, IFW phone: ++41 (0)1 632 74 02 8092 Zurich, Switzerland fax: ++41 (0)1 632 11 72 WWW --> http://www.inf.ethz.ch/department/TI/pw/staff/pajarola.html
From: djs@ids.net (David Jean Schweitzer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Falcon Systems as VAR for Canon Object.station Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 13:23:15 GMT Organization: Alliance for Media Arts SFAC Distribution: na Message-ID: <djs.1132787835A@155.212.1.8> References: <37kcbk$193@condor.cs.jhu.edu> I would not like to see Falcon Systems get the VAR for the Canon Object Station. I am very dis-satisfied customer. The NeXT community is in a delicate enough situation. Generally speaking, the people at Falcon haven't a clue on what they are selling. My experience with Falcon was so negative that I wouldn't even use them to purchase a fly swatter. One person's opinion, not an attempt to hurt anyone's feelings. Sorry! In Article <37kcbk$193@condor.cs.jhu.edu>, audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley) wrote: >Falcon Systems has applied to be a VAR for the Canon Object.station. >However, Canon is requiring Falcon to commit to a minimum number of >of systems. Without significant interest from the NeXT community, >Falcon can't make that commitment. > >If your interested in the Canon Object.station, and you would like to >deal with a reliable supplier, please call Michael Hyatt at Falcon >Systems, (800)326-1002. Yes, Canon may be a reliable supplier, if >your willing to pay full list and deal with finding someone in their >customer service department familiar with this relatively minor >product. > >Falcon is a nation wide supplier of computers and peripherals, including >HP systems, disk drives, memory and, if the VAR application is accepted, >Intel systems which work with NeXTstep. We have used them as our >peripheral supplier for NeXTstations for about a year now and have never >had a problem. > >I'm not affiliated with, nor do I speak for, Falcon systems. I am, >however, a very satisfied customer of theirs who would like to see them >sell the Canon Object.station. > >Christopher D. Audley >Watch Hill Investment Partners > ================================================================================ David Jean Schweitzer <djs@ids.net> Miami Beach, FL, USA Artist in residence, Filmmaker (305) 532-8227 (voice) Alliance for Media Arts SFAC (305) 532-6007 (fax) <alliance_org@ids.net> (305) 538-8242 (office) Chairperson Alliance Film/Video Coop
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TALUS Support Date: 17 Oct 1994 12:46:13 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <37u9ol$ssc@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37ndvf$o4c@news.mic.ucla.edu> <CxtB8u.Ep1@qb.rhein-main.de> Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) wrote: : In article <37ndvf$o4c@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) : writes: : > : > Now that I have found out about NeXT's $120/question support cost, I must : > say Talus' free post-sale support is not only refreshing, but should also : > be a major purchasing factor. Just an opinion... : Really? How did you reach them? I've been trying to get support from them for : their ATI PCI display driver, which doesn't work on my machine, but they never : even acknowledged that they got my mail. Support I've recieved from Talus has been top-notch. Who did you send email to? Unfortunately, info@talus.com doesn't seem to get answered too often. Give them a call at 713-578-1434. As for the ATI PCI driver, no glitches here. - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how many monitors can you use at once? Date: 17 Oct 1994 12:49:55 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <37u9vj$svb@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37q6jm$nrr@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Terry Haggin (TerryH@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : Hello, : I have an extra 030 cube that I would like to use : as a telemarketing server. What I would like to do : is hook up 5 monitors and keyboards to my cube so : that the telemarketers can all login at the same time : and do their data entries separately. I am wondering if : I need a cube for each monitor or can I have 5 monitors : and one cube? Spherical Solutions has a method of installing multiple modified 030 and 040 boards in a single cube. You can have up to four boards in one cube. - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: Thomas Rohde <tom@trohde.hanse.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Mark IV in A.C. Clarkes sci-fi novel playing 2012 Date: 16 Oct 1994 12:57:48 GMT Organization: Self-organized organism feeding on chaos Message-ID: <37r80c$a4@trohde.hanse.de> hey, does anybody out there know that one of Earth's best (and best-known) contemporary science fiction authors (remember 2001 - Odyssey), Mr. Artur C. Clarke, also IMO one of the most prophetic, humanistic, really scientific ones, mentions a *** NeXT Mark IV computer *** in one of the first 30 pages in his novel "The Ghost From The Grand Banks". The time is about 2012, and the computer is then already an old machine, but its user doesn't want to transfer his gigantic database to another machine, because it works fine. Isn't this fine to know for all of us NeXTsteppers? Does anybody know Mr. Clarke's e-mail address? I believe he lives on Sri Lanka. best wishes, tom -- ______________________________________________________ Thomas Rohde mail: tom@trohde.hanse.de Grindelallee 27 B NeXTmail OK 20146 Hamburg, Germany voice: (+49) 040-44.88.19
From: jason@talus.blkbox.com (Jason McNamara) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TALUS Support Date: 17 Oct 1994 18:37:36 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <37ug9g$gid@blkbox.blkbox.COM> References: <37u9ol$ssc@anshar.shadow.net> In article <37u9ol$ssc@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: >Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) wrote: > >: Really? How did you reach them? I've been trying to get support from them for >: their ATI PCI display driver, which doesn't work on my machine, but they never >: even acknowledged that they got my mail. > >Support I've recieved from Talus has been top-notch. Who did you send >email to? Unfortunately, info@talus.com doesn't seem to get answered too >often. Give them a call at 713-578-1434. As for the ATI PCI driver, no >glitches here. info@talus.com is simply overwhelmed right now. We've received a staggering amount of mail in the last couple of weeks, and that combined with a staff departure has left us with a (virtual) ton of requests. We will be getting back to everyone who sends mail to info@talus.com, whether it be for driver requests, laptop requests, problems, new products etc. Thanks for your patience and your support. Jason McNamara Talus >- Jay >No NeXTmail...Yet > > -- Jason McNamara, Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation [+1] (713) 578-1434 jason@talus.com (NeXTMail) mcnamara@mars.zedat.fu-berlin.de jmcnamar@ucs.indiana.edu
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where can I buy Tailor Date: 17 Oct 1994 15:00:48 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu> Hi folx.... I need to buy Tailor (is there an educational version?) I got the demo off of ftp.cs.orst.edu and I *love* it. Now... how do I buy it. (I sent mail to belgium... still waiting.. I guess it's nite-time there.) Anyway... I'd love to just enable the demo and get to work. Can I buy it from anybody out there? thanks! -steve
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextTime Date: 17 Oct 1994 16:36:37 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <37un8l$691@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37tsg2$jfh@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Renato Pajarola (pajarola@iiic.ethz.ch) wrote: : Hi folks, : I was wondering about NextTime and how to get it. It isn't installed : in NS3.2 isn't it ? I do have to get it from somewhere, right ? : So, where can I get it, do I have to buy it ? : I own a NextStation for a few years now, but regarding NextTime I'm a newbie. NeXTIME is $99 directly from NeXT (1-800-TRY-NeXT). You'll need at least a 040 color system to run it. - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Followup-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 17 Oct 1994 16:40:20 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37s1dk$406@galaxy.ucr.edu> <RATINOX.94Oct16210713@delphi.ccs.neu.edu> <dhurter-1610942234220001@flipper.sirius.com> Don Hurter (dhurter@world.std.com) wrote: : In article <RATINOX.94Oct16210713@delphi.ccs.neu.edu>, ratinox@ccs.neu.edu : (Stainless Steel Rat) wrote: : > Well, if you're willing to wait a couple of months, you can have both. : > OpenStep is currently being (if not already) ported to run on top of a : > Solaris 2.4 kernel. According to Sun, Solaris/OpenStep should be ready in early 95, and will be an integral part of Solaris 2.5. : You should confirm the hardware requirements of either OS before : purchasing the machine and its components. I haven't used Solaris/Intel, : but I know that plug-in cards for NS need to be selected with some care : (particularly the video card). Solaris for Intel supports fewer peripherals than NeXTSTEP. : Victor> And, since I am a student, is there an educational discount? There is currently no edu discount on Solaris. : For NeXTSTEP, yes. I've lost track these days, but the edu price for NS : with _all_ the development tools is in the ballpark price of $295-395. : Someone else in the c.s.n group might have the right figures. The NeXTSTEP Academic Bundle is $299 - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.94Oct17200913@steffi.demon.co.uk> Control: cancel <ROBERT.94Oct17200913@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 20:49:00 +0000 Message-ID: <199410172031.VAA07246@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
From: keith@cc.gatech.edu (Keith Edwards) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 17 Oct 1994 21:00:44 GMT Organization: Georgia Tech Multimedia Computing Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <37uols$kse@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) writes: >Solaris for Intel supports fewer peripherals than NeXTSTEP. The last time I checked this was most definately *NOT* the case. Solaris 2.1 x86 supported more far peripherals than NeXTSTEP, and 2.4 supports more than 2.1 did. Send email to x86hcg@Sun.COM for the latest and greatest hardware compatibility guide, updated monthly. >There is currently no edu discount on Solaris. I believe it's discounted at the standard edu discount rate, about 65% of list. >The NeXTSTEP Academic Bundle is $299 Until the end of February there's a special deal on Solaris 2.4 for Intel. It's $495 list for the OS + development tools (SPARCworks, C, C++ compilers, TeamWorks, etc.) Not sure if this is discountable, but I bet it is. -keith --- keith edwards keith.edwards@cc.gatech.edu multimedia computing group / georgia tech 404.894.6266 graphics, visualization, & usability center atlanta, ga 30332-0280 http://www.gatech.edu/gvu/people/Phd/Keith.Edwards.html
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextTime Date: 17 Oct 1994 22:11:39 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <37usqr$2kd@news.iastate.edu> References: <37tsg2$jfh@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> <37un8l$691@anshar.shadow.net> Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: : Renato Pajarola (pajarola@iiic.ethz.ch) wrote: : : Hi folks, : : I was wondering about NextTime and how to get it. It isn't installed : : in NS3.2 isn't it ? I do have to get it from somewhere, right ? : : So, where can I get it, do I have to buy it ? : : I own a NextStation for a few years now, but regarding NextTime I'm a newbie. : NeXTIME is $99 directly from NeXT (1-800-TRY-NeXT). You'll need at least : a 040 color system to run it. What about an Intel machine? Chris
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextTime Date: 17 Oct 1994 19:03:19 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <37uvrn$ak3@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37tsg2$jfh@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> <37un8l$691@anshar.shadow.net> <37usqr$2kd@news.iastate.edu> Chris Wong (chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu) wrote: : Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: : : NeXTIME is $99 directly from NeXT (1-800-TRY-NeXT). You'll need at least : : a 040 color system to run it. : What about an Intel machine? Intel systems running 8-bit grey or better can handle NeXTIME. Of course, playback rates will vary depending on the system's processor, video, memory, disk, etc. - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Followup-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 17 Oct 1994 19:07:52 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37uols$kse@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> Keith Edwards (keith@cc.gatech.edu) wrote: : Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) writes: : >Solaris for Intel supports fewer peripherals than NeXTSTEP. : The last time I checked this was most definately *NOT* the case. Solaris : 2.1 x86 supported more far peripherals than NeXTSTEP, and 2.4 supports : more than 2.1 did. The last time I called Sun (last week) the hardware list was pretty limited. : >There is currently no edu discount on Solaris. : I believe it's discounted at the standard edu discount rate, about 65% : of list. I called SunExpress and was told that at this time there were NO edu discounts. - Jay No NeXTmail...Yet
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newton connection kit Date: 17 Oct 1994 21:41:56 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <37ur34$2g7@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <37q0tn$r0n@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> In article <37q0tn$r0n@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Wilbur Gayle writes: |>In article <1994Oct12.172237.674@mjw.octagon.de> mane@mjw.octagon.de |>(Manfred W"uhr) writes: |>> In article <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu |>> (Steve Weintz) writes: |>> > Count me in, too. |>> |>> Me too!! |>> -- |>> Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de |>> -- |> |>Me too!!!! |>-- |>Regards, |> |>Wil Gayle |>U S West Communications Hi, I suggest you all take a look at DIT s DataShadow. It s designed to transfer data from and to, first, the Sharp Wizard 9000 series electronic organizers. When I last conversed with them on a different matter, I asked them if they would eventually connect to other PDAs, and they told me, that they were working on a connectivity kit to the Newton. Whether it just does backup, or actually works as a PDA on-screen, I don t know, but that s for you to find out...... Contact: Digital Instrumentation Technology, Inc. Phone: (505) 662-1459 Email: shadow-request@dit.com Other products: OnDuty, a calender, organizer, notekeeper, and much more.... Best regards Michael NOTE: I m in no way affiliated with DIT, just a satisfied customer. -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief of DANNUG NEWS % DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Message-ID: <Oct17.230924.24557@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 23:09:24 GMT References: <37s3kd$j68@crcnis1.unl.edu> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada In article <37s3kd$j68@crcnis1.unl.edu> jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) writes: > David John Burrowes (netcom.com!kira!davidjohn) wrote: > : Um. It's been about 7 days. Did something wonderfull happen? I > : think Jupiter is still out there... > .. > Maybe nothing wonderful happened. I understand, from somebody at > NeXT, that it is something of "epic" proportions. He couldn't say ^^^^ Well, I guess to qualify as "epic", it can't be something as simple as DOOM II for NextStep :-) -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NextTime Date: 18 Oct 1994 01:29:41 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <37v8e5$8r0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <37usqr$2kd@news.iastate.edu> chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) writes: > Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: > : NeXTIME is $99 directly from NeXT (1-800-TRY-NeXT). You'll need at > : least a 040 color system to run it. > > What about an Intel machine? Works fine on NS/Intel. There is probably some minimal configuration needed (16-bit color, perhaps), but I don't remember the constraints. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q:Cobol for NextStep? Date: 18 Oct 1994 01:50:55 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <37v9lv$ldc@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <rfenney-171094011550@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> In article <rfenney-171094011550@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) writes: -> > what Cobol compilers are available for NEXTSTEP? -> Call me ... but I hope NONE!!!!!! There used to be one listed in the big NEXTSTEP 3rd party product catalog. It was from a fairly mainstream COBOL company. -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kochhar@endor.harvard.edu (Sandeep Kochhar) Subject: Zmodem software? Message-ID: <CxuKuo.1GE@das.harvard.edu> Followup-To: kochhar@das.harvard.edu Sender: kochhar@das.harvard.edu Organization: Harvard University Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 02:42:23 GMT hi! Is Zmodem software compiled for the NeXT available on some ftp site? thanks. -- Sandeep Kochhar 248 Hampshire St. #2 email: kochhar@das.harvard.edu Cambridge, MA 02139 tel (voice/fax): (617) 876-2052
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: imdat@irex.de Subject: Re: Newton connection kit Message-ID: <1994Oct17.140707.1088@irex.de> Sender: imdat@irex.de Organization: IREX Software AG, D-83329 Waging, Germany References: <37q0tn$r0n@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:07:07 MET In article <37q0tn$r0n@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Wilbur Gayle writes: > In article <1994Oct12.172237.674@mjw.octagon.de> mane@mjw.octagon.de > (Manfred W"uhr) writes: > > In article <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu > > (Steve Weintz) writes: > > > Count me in, too. > > > > Me too!! > > -- > > Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de > > -- > > Me too!!!! > -- > Regards, Me too, please. Imdat -- -- Imdat Solak * IREX Software AG * Hochreit 7 * D-83329 Waging * Germany phone: +49 8681 694-0 * fax: +49 8681 694-200 * mail: imdat@irex.de #import <sys/company/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) Subject: Download w/ retried blocks Message-ID: <CxuLFz.MtE@usa.net> Sender: news@usa.net (News) Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 02:55:11 GMT I have been trying to download and am getting massive "recieve buffer overrun" errors....It seems to happen about every 10-15 blocks. help me out I am using a Pract Periph 28.8 modem. I have switched Hardware hnadshaking on and off with little change. My baud rate is set at 19200 all help apprecaited ericd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: 90 Applications Running Message-ID: <1994Oct17.115444.3320@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <Cxo737.LE@euler.hnv.icem.de> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 11:54:44 GMT In article <Cxo737.LE@euler.hnv.icem.de> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) writes: }~ In article <37ga5q$9lj@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes: }~ > Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: }~ > 90 Apps running simultaneously [...] }~ > }~ > What was the size of your swap? BTW, running 90 apps isn't too }~ > surprising, since most of them were swapped out anyway. Now }~ > doing 90 compiles at the }~ > same it...that would be something. :-> Ross. }~ }~ If he did a lot of interaction between the apps like drag'n drop it }~ would be interesting to hear about the system behaviour. Was the }~ pasteboard useable? Also how he metered the "90 apps". If it was something like... > ps awwux | wc -l Using that as a metric, I've got 55 running at the moment, and am only using Edit, NewsGrazer, and a single Terminal.app window, besides a couple of dinky apps I have up all the time. --- Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) and MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau) Subject: Medicare number structure Message-ID: <1994Oct17.133005.5994@planon.qc.ca> Sender: yanik@planon.qc.ca (Yanik Crepeau) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 13:30:05 GMT We work to a new medical software for Medical Labs here in Quebec. The main key to retreive a patient in our database is the number issued by the Medicare authority. It could happen that some people coming from other provinces, U.S.A. or oversees need some medical analysis and I would like to know how these foreign medicare id number are constructed. For instance here in Quebec, the medicare ID is: LLLA YYMMDDXX Where LLL are the first three letters of the last name A is the first letter of the first name YY is the birth year MM is the birth month (add 50 if the bearer is female) DD is the birth day XX is an internal code used to avoid 2 bearers with the same ID and to check the validity. I would like to know how does your local Medicare id number work in your province (for canadians) or private insurance id number in the USA. I don't need the actual numbers but a representation like what I have put above to have an idea of the patten. Currently I have reserved 16 digits (alphanumeric) for that field and I worry if that is enough. Yanik -- Yanik Crepeau Ce message represente que mon opinion Programmeur personnelle et n'engage en rien mon Planon Telexpertise organisation. This message represents Cable: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT) only my personnal view, my organisation Phototelegraphe: 514-449-6484 may or may not agree with me. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQBNAi3WkakAAAECANz367EgdcI2EfPZeHZPH0F4Pv1YpUL23TGAC4V7pQszdnc4 I4Ji2DXu6JU4vDfnV9bQ7FxqVnmx4bjBPu++0lEABRG0IllhbmlrIENyZXBlYXUg PHlhbmlrQHBsYW5vbi5xYy5jYT4= =kwxE -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
From: swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Date: 17 Oct 1994 19:18:48 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Message-ID: <SWIET.94Oct17151849@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> References: <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> <36us9b$q2@rosie.next.com> In-reply-to: Mark_Wagner@NeXT.COM's message of 5 Oct 1994 18:46:03 GMT In article <36us9b$q2@rosie.next.com> Mark_Wagner@NeXT.COM (Mark Wagner) writes: In 3.3 only... Hold down the alt key and mouse down/drag the miniaturize button of any window that has a title which represents a file name (e.g. Edit). You'll get a draggable icon for the file. Neat...will Workspace accept the icon? (For placement on shelf, etc.) Also, here's something I keep expecting to work for some reason: I have Edit open next to Webster. I double click on a word in Edit, then (while Edit is still in the front, and without first bringing Webster to the front) click on Webster's define button. And it doesn't do what I want it to do. After a moment of confusion, I think "oh yeah," and double click on that word in Edit again, then hit command =. I like my way better.
From: msander@bcarh85b.bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newton connection kit Date: 18 Oct 1994 12:03:26 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research Message-ID: <MSANDER.94Oct18080327@bcarh85b.bnr.ca> References: <37q0tn$r0n@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> <1994Oct17.140707.1088@irex.de> In-reply-to: imdat@irex.de's message of Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:07:07 MET In article <1994Oct17.140707.1088@irex.de> imdat@irex.de writes: In article <37q0tn$r0n@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Wilbur Gayle writes: > In article <1994Oct12.172237.674@mjw.octagon.de> mane@mjw.octagon.de > (Manfred W"uhr) writes: > > In article <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu > > (Steve Weintz) writes: > > > Count me in, too. > > Me too!! > Me too!!!! Me too, please. And if anybody is collecting these "Me too"s ... please add me to the list! Cheers, Michael -- Michael Sanderson msander@bnr.ca ISDN Data Services (613) 765-3715 Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Ottawa, Canada "These opinions are mine ... which is good 'cause no one else wants 'em"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: TALUS Support Message-ID: <CxvF1t.3AJ@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <37u9ol$ssc@anshar.shadow.net> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 13:34:40 GMT In article <37u9ol$ssc@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: > Support I've recieved from Talus has been top-notch. Who did you send > email to? Unfortunately, info@talus.com doesn't seem to get answered too > often. Give them a call at 713-578-1434. As for the ATI PCI driver, no > glitches here. Yup, Jason came back to me right after my posting. The delay was because one of the guys that answer the info account isn't there now. I should have contacted him directly. He sent me two more versions of their driver right away, so I must say that support is indeed good. The driver still doesn't work on my machine, but I have good hope that it will be fixed. -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) 'intel inside' stickers look best on toilet lids
From: adler@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Bruce Adler [Contractor]) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 18 Oct 1994 15:40:02 GMT Organization: Sunsoft Inc., Los Angeles Site, Ca. Distribution: world Message-ID: <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37uols$kse@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> Cc: In article <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net>, Jay Fuchs <jjfox@anshar.shadow.net> wrote: >The last time I called Sun (last week) the hardware list was pretty >limited. You're right, Solaris x86 only supports about 16 different SCSI HBAs, and 17 different network adapters, and 56 different graphics adapters and 22 different notebook display adapters. No doubt your favorite piece of hardware isn't yet on the list. BA
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where can I buy Tailor Date: 18 Oct 1994 11:06:50 -0500 Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX Message-ID: <380rqq$6k1@crchh78b.bnr.ca> References: <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu> In article <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu>, Steve Spicklemire <steve@estel.uindy.edu> wrote: > I need to buy Tailor (is there an educational version?) I got >the demo off of ftp.cs.orst.edu and I *love* it. Now... how do I buy >it. (I sent mail to belgium... still waiting.. I guess it's nite-time >there.) Anyway... I'd love to just enable the demo and get to work. >Can I buy it from anybody out there? You can also contact the following and see if they can sell you Tailor at an educational price: Alembic Systems International Ltd. Englewood, CO Voice: (800) 452-7608 Fax: (303) 799-1435 e-mail: alembic@alembic.com GS Corporation Kentfield, CA Voice: (800) 999-8844 Fax: (415) 257-4707 e-mail: info@goldleaf.com I do not speak for any of these companies. I just retyped what I read in NEXT IN LINE. ============================= Mike Shandony Bell-Northern Research, Inc. vanhalen@bnr.ca ================================== The opinions expressed are my own. ==================================
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how many monitors can you use at once? Date: 18 Oct 1994 16:39:21 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <380tnp$crs@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <37u9vj$svb@anshar.shadow.net> In article <37u9vj$svb@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: > Terry Haggin (TerryH@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > : Hello, > > : I have an extra 030 cube that I would like to use > : as a telemarketing server. What I would like to do > : is hook up 5 monitors and keyboards to my cube so > : that the telemarketers can all login at the same time > : and do their data entries separately. I am wondering if > : I need a cube for each monitor or can I have 5 monitors > : and one cube? > > Spherical Solutions has a method of installing multiple modified 030 and > 040 boards in a single cube. You can have up to four boards in one cube. > But if you actually constructed a Cube with 4 CPU boards and tried to run 4 monitors, I bet you'd fry the Cube's power supply (maybe someone has evidence to the contrary - I never tried it). The power supply is rated at 300 watts, if I recall correctly, so I don't believe it's capable of handling more than a couple of monitors (remember, Cube mono monitors are powered by the Cube's power supply - not sure about NeXTdimension monitors). --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Falcon Systems as VAR for Canon Object.station Date: 18 Oct 1994 18:17:47 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3813gb$bc7@potogold.rmii.com> References: <37kcbk$193@condor.cs.jhu.edu> In article <37kcbk$193@condor.cs.jhu.edu> audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley) writes: <Stuff Deleted> : Yes, Canon may be a reliable supplier, if :your willing to pay full list and deal with finding someone in their :customer service department familiar with this relatively minor :product. : I think you are being unfair to Canon. The NEXTSTEP market is the ONLY one that Canon is targeting for the object.station 41. They have committed a lot of resources to promoting our favorite OS. They just want to make certain that the people selling their product will put effort into it, not just for one sale, but for the long term. We at OpenSource know a lot about NEXTSTEP, carry most of the 3rd-party software products, and consider the Canon object.station a relatively major product, and can offer good pricing (including free shipping through Oct. 31). It is this dedication that has allowed us to become an authorized VAR of object.station 41 system. I would certainly hope that our competition would be required to put in the same level of commitment to this market that we do. Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail) **My opinions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.terminals,comp.text,comp.theory From: dms1070@hertz.njit.edu (David Shaw) Subject: Re: PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT Message-ID: <1994Oct18.155700.11968@njitgw.njit.edu> Followup-To: misc.misc Sender: news@njit.edu Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J. References: <CxvBFv.Ky5@cix.compulink.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 15:57:00 GMT In comp.sys.mac.misc, lazarus@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Steve Turnbull") writes: [one MASSIVE spam, which I deleted] Well, it was just a matter of time before someone did this again. This darn message is ALL OVER the net! I sent a message to the cancelbot people (via alt.cancel.bots), but I'm not sure if our link here at NJIT is good, as I've never seen anything on that group. If someone else has a way to tell them, please do. Note: followups set to misc.misc (seemed most appropriate..) David -- David Shaw | dms1070@hertz.njit.edu | WWW http://hertz.njit.edu/~dms1070 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." - Jeremy S. Anderson
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Followup-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 18 Oct 1994 14:07:15 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3812sj$82n@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37uols$kse@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Bruce Adler [Contractor] (adler@pongo.West.Sun.COM) wrote: : In article <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net>, : Jay Fuchs <jjfox@anshar.shadow.net> wrote: : >The last time I called Sun (last week) the hardware list was pretty : >limited. : You're right, Solaris x86 only supports about 16 different SCSI HBAs, : and 17 different network adapters, and 56 different graphics adapters : and 22 different notebook display adapters. No doubt your favorite : piece of hardware isn't yet on the list. In that case, the Sun representatives I spoke to weren't very well informed. I only know what they tell me. I'm hoping to get Solaris running on my system. Perhaps you know if the following peripherals are supported: ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (mach64) Adaptec 2940 NCR 53C825 Soundblaster 16 I'm not knocking Solaris - I was just put off by the reps I spoke to. - Jay NeXTmail...Yes!
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 90 Applications Running Date: 18 Oct 1994 14:13:59 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <381397$866@anshar.shadow.net> References: <Cxo737.LE@euler.hnv.icem.de> <1994Oct17.115444.3320@ToTSySSoft.com> Bruce Gingery (bruce@TotSysSoft.com) wrote: : }~ If he did a lot of interaction between the apps like drag'n drop it : }~ would be interesting to hear about the system behaviour. Was the : }~ pasteboard useable? : Using that as a metric, I've got 55 running at the moment, and am only : using Edit, NewsGrazer, and a single Terminal.app window, besides a : couple of dinky apps I have up all the time. : --- Having been away from NS for a while, using Windoze and Macs, I appreciate the ability to leave apps running in the background, and not having to worry that some errant app will write all over another's memory space and bring the whole system to a halt. Also impressive was the ability to run multiple NeXTIME videos (a real CPU and video drain) while playing a graphics-intensive game like Doom. Just rediscovering the joys of NeXTSTEP. - Jay NeXTmail...Yes!
From: lazarus@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Steve Turnbull") Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.terminals,comp.text,comp.theory Subject: cmsg cancel <CxvBFv.Ky5@cix.compulink.co.uk> Control: cancel <CxvBFv.Ky5@cix.compulink.co.uk> Date: 18 Oct 1994 17:40:37 GMT Organization: Compulink Information eXchange Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3811al$52o@chpc.chpc.org> cancel <CxvBFv.Ky5@cix.compulink.co.uk> Forged cancel of a mass crosspost
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.94Oct17200913@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Control: cancel <ROBERT.94Oct17200913@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Date: 17 Oct 1994 20:28:10 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Oct17212810@steffi.dircon.co.uk> -- "When you try them you _know_ why they're there.More security, more freshness." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: mayojoh@ac.com (Jack Mayo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Install problems: NSFIP 3.2 Date: 17 Oct 1994 22:16:03 -0500 Organization: Kill your DOS Distribution: world Message-ID: <37velj$a8c@servo.ac.com> Summary: keyboard lockup Keywords: hang, keyboard, FIP 3.2 Hi! I've been trying to install NS 3.2 on my Zeos 486 all night. The install goes fine up until the final confirmation before configuring disks where it says: "Type 1 to prepare to install NeXTstep. Type 2 to quit." I type 1, press return and nothing happens. The keyboard hangs and I am unable to go any further. If I unplug and re-plugin the keyboard, sometimes I can get to the next prompt, but never any farther. (Yes, I am well aware that I shouldn't unplug the keyboard on a running machine.) I did apply the NeXTanswer "Boot drivers" workaround to avoid loading the PS2 mouse driver. I tried a different keyboard (both AT-style). (I'm typing on that other keyboard right now, so I know it works. :) Here's my hardware setup: Zeos 486/66 DX2 Adaptec 1542CF SCSI adapter with BIOS and floppy controller disabled - BIOS enabled made no difference Diamond SpeedStar Pro Graphics board Western Digital 425 meg drive 28 meg memory 128k cache I pulled my other cards and got the thing down to the bare minimum needed to boot NS, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. Anybody got any clues? If you need any more info, let me know. Save me from DOS! :) Thanks! Jack Mayo -- mayojoh@ac.com | Disclaimer: What I say isn't what they say. "It may not be a wise rule we are applying, but it is the rule that binds us." - U.of MN. law prof Visualize Whirled Peas. Ignore my spelling mistakes.
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how many monitors can you use at once? Date: 18 Oct 1994 21:08:07 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <381dfn$ld4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <37u9vj$svb@anshar.shadow.net> <380tnp$crs@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > But if you actually constructed a Cube with 4 CPU boards and tried to >run 4 monitors, I bet you'd fry the Cube's power supply (maybe someone has >evidence to the contrary - I never tried it). The power supply is rated >at 300 watts, if I recall correctly, so I don't believe it's capable of >handling more than a couple of monitors (remember, Cube mono monitors are >powered by the Cube's power supply - not sure about NeXTdimension >monitors). Older Cubes needed a power-supply upgrade to run a NeXTdimension board, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't due to the monitor. Later Cubes definitely supply nothing to the color monitor exept video output; there's a separate power cable for the color monitor. (And a good thing, too, considering how much juice they suck down.) -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mapping "CapLock" To "Control" Date: 18 Oct 1994 16:29:01 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@nunki.usc.edu Message-ID: <381lnt$5di@nunki.usc.edu> Hi, Is it possible to map the CapLock key on the PC keyboard to Control? Thanks in advance. -- Ta-Wei "David" Li UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: adler@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Bruce Adler [Contractor]) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 18 Oct 1994 23:36:17 GMT Organization: Sunsoft Inc., Los Angeles Site, Ca. Distribution: world Message-ID: <381m5h$mof@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <3812sj$82n@anshar.shadow.net> Cc: In article <3812sj$82n@anshar.shadow.net>, Jay Fuchs <jjfox@anshar.shadow.net> wrote: >In that case, the Sun representatives I spoke to weren't very well >informed. I only know what they tell me. You can get the official list by sending an empty email to: x86hcg@cypress.west.sun.com >I'm hoping to get Solaris >running on my system. Perhaps you know if the following peripherals are >supported: > >ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (mach64) >Adaptec 2940 >NCR 53C825 >Soundblaster 16 Yes. Soon. Yes. Yes. BA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Image into NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <1994Oct18.210838.1156@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 21:08:38 GMT I am intested in putting Images in NEXTSTEP. Specifically, I want to take pictures of patients that come in to the clinic, an dput in in their folder. I would like to do this with Intel hardware, and without scanning. A video camera/Zap shot camera would be best. Any thoughts? Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hardware recommendations Date: 19 Oct 1994 03:19:51 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <38238n$4jo@News1.mcs.com> I'd like to get opinions/recommendations on laser printers and sound cards for my Intel machine. I've looked at the HP 4L and 4M (I think that's the models, one's 300 dpi and one's 600 dpi) and will probably lean that way unless I hear horror stories. I'm also interested in soundcard or soundcard/cd rom combos. I'm totally clueless here, so I'm open to anything. Any help is appreciated. thanks, tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Reading Amiga formatted disks Message-ID: <1994Oct17.132323.28464@earlham.edu> From: evansbe@earlham.edu Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 13:23:19 -500 Organization: Earlham College Does anyone out there have any idea how to read an Amiga formatted disk onto a NeXT? I would really appreciate it if any of you could help me. Please send your replys to my mail address. Thanks in advance +------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ |Elric |Just doing my part to make your day | |Ben Evans |a bit more surreal | |Evansbe@earlham.edu |The time has come the song is over | |Evansbe@math.earlham.edu|Thought I'd had something more to say | +------------------------+-------------------------------------------+
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Image into NEXTSTEP Date: 19 Oct 1994 06:01:40 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <382co4$g3a@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <1994Oct18.210838.1156@weston.com> In article <1994Oct18.210838.1156@weston.com> writes: :I am intested in putting Images in NEXTSTEP. Specifically, I want to take :pictures of patients that come in to the clinic, an dput in in their :folder. I would like to do this with Intel hardware, and without :scanning. A video camera/Zap shot camera would be best. : :Any thoughts? There is a hardware solution called Digital Eyes that plugs into the DSP port on black hardware. It was used at the Summer Usenix Conference to allow people to make custom "business cards" with a picture of the person making them. Digital Eyes was connected to a Sony HandiCam or something like that. The user could look into the camera and when satisfied with the picture displayed on the monitor, press a button with the mouse pointer and the computer would grab that particular frame of video. The slab had a NeXT printer with label sheets in the paper tray. It all worked very nicely. Unfortunately, I don't know the name of the company that makes Digital Eyes. I do know, however, that Don Yacktman (don@darth.byu.edu) has Digital Ears for sound sampling. He can tell you the name of the company. -- Paul M. Cardon Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young University
From: nweaver@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas C. Weaver) Newsgroups: alt.current-events.net-abuse,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.terminals,comp.text,comp.theory Subject: SPAM!! Re: PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT Followup-To: alt.current-events.net-abuse Date: 18 Oct 1994 16:07:41 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: UK Message-ID: <380rsd$kl9@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <CxvBFv.Ky5@cix.compulink.co.uk> Keywords: SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM (please note, the only reason I'm keeping with the crosspost is to set the followups to alt.current-events.net-abuse. Any continuing discussion of this spam should take place there. I'm not sure whether this is one massive crosspost or one crosspost out of a whole spam. In either case, this should ONLY be discussed in alt.current-events.net-abuse.) WHAT IS THIS PIECE OF TRIPE? This looks like the start of some SPAM(tm). Although it is currently crossposted to a massive number of comp.sys* groups, I have a bad feelling about this, that it may be present elsewere. WHAT RESULT WILL THIS PIECE OF TRIPE CAUSE? It will fill up the mailboxes of lazarus@cix.compulink.co.uk with lots of angry email. Most of this email will be cc'ed to the postmaster. Even if this is the only posting, it will generate lots of garbage followups and angry letters. If this was posted elsewhere, the results could be disasterous. Several systems have been brought down due to the angry responses generated by SPAM(tm) ANY SUGGESTIONS? 1) Cancel this immediately or 2) Read "Emily Postnews explains How to Spam(tm) the Net" ANYTHING ELSE? Spam(tm) is a registered trademark of Hormell. WHAT DID THE HEADERS LOOK LIKE? WHY DO WE THINK THIS ISN'T FORGED? (returns added for neatness) Article 41093 of comp.sys.next.misc: Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc, comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc, comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.terminals, comp.text,comp.theory Path: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!uknet!cix.compulink.co.uk!lazarus From: lazarus@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Steve Turnbull") Subject: PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT Message-ID: <CxvBFv.Ky5@cix.compulink.co.uk> Organisation: CCHR UK Organization: Compulink Information eXchange Distribution: UK Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:16:43 GMT Lines: 165 Xref: agate comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc:26671 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:1313 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:53742 comp.sys.mac.misc:80703 comp.sys.newton.misc:17706 comp.sys.next.misc:41093 comp.sys.sgi.misc:13904 comp.sys.sun.misc:18251 comp.terminals:7794 comp.text:13650 comp.theory:11064 -- Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@orodruin.cs.berkeley.edu It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing Fun with anagrams: computer science -> coerce inept scum
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 19 Oct 1994 07:52:47 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <382j8f$fid@news.iastate.edu> References: <38238n$4jo@News1.mcs.com> Tom Meyer (tmeyer@mcs.com) wrote: : I'd like to get opinions/recommendations on laser printers and sound cards : for my Intel machine. I've looked at the HP 4L and 4M (I think that's the : models, one's 300 dpi and one's 600 dpi) and will probably lean that way : unless I hear horror stories. HP 4L is not postscript. HP 4ML (I'm using.) is postscript. HP 4M is 600dpi postscript. Chris
From: gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: exporting CDROM drive to the network??? Message-ID: <1994Oct19.095613.640@dbulm1.uucp> Date: 19 Oct 94 09:56:13 +0100 Keywords: SCSI, mount, exportfs, external CDROM Distribution: world Organization: Daimler-Benz, Forschungszentrum Ulm Hi, I have a problem to mount and to export an external CDROM drive on a black machine. When I try to do this in a similiar manner like mounting and exporting an external hard disk (NFSmanager + entry in fstab), it does not work. How can I manage this that an external CDROM drive is visible via the network. And, how do I provide a method that the filesystem is updated all over the network if the CDROM which is an the drive is removed and replaced by another one?? Any hints?? Regards Jochen --- ===================================================================== Jochen Gloger, Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm, Institute of Information Technology, Department of Text Understanding Phone: +49 731 505 2353, Fax: +49 731 505 4113 Address: Wilhelm-Runge-Str.11, P.O. Box 23 60, 89013 Ulm, Germany Email: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM =====================================================================
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: exporting CDROM drive to the network??? Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:25:21 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4idGlFa00iVDE2PR85@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Oct19.095613.640@dbulm1.uucp> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Oct-94 exporting CDROM drive to th.. by Jochen Gloger@dbulm1.uuc > Hi, > > I have a problem to mount and to export an external CDROM drive on a black > machine. When I try to do this in a similiar manner like mounting and > exporting an external hard disk (NFSmanager + entry in fstab), it does not > work. That doesn't work, unfortunately, although hopefully it will be fixed soon. The only solution I know of is to mount and export the CD-ROM from another Unix machine (ie, not running NEXTSTEP). -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: mayojoh@ac.com (John Mayo - NSM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.2 install - HELP! Date: 19 Oct 1994 13:38:54 GMT Organization: Andersen Consulting - Minneapolis Distribution: world Message-ID: <3837he$h5d@nsmmfs07.nsm.ac.com> References: <Cxq9us.JAu@hub.cs.jmu.edu> In article JAu@hub.cs.jmu.edu, willisma@tch0.cs.jmu.edu (matt a willis ) writes: >I'm having trouble installing NeXTstep 3.2 on a machine with the >following configuration: > >Zeos 486 w/ 32Mb >IDE hard drive >Adaptec 6360 SCSI adapter >NEC 2x CD ROM > >I have obtained the device driver for the SCSI adapter from NeXT. >The problem I'm having is that during installation, my keyboard >locks up. Either it locks or I get a repeating error message: > >PS/2Keyboard/HandleACK: Unexpected ACK from Keyboard > >I've tried the fix suggested in NeXT help file #1480 to type >the following command at the boot: prompt: > >"Boot Drivers"="PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B DPT2012 IDE Floppy" > Boy, are you lucky! :) I just did this. I could not get my Zeos keyboard to work, so I swapped it for an old AT-style kb, but that didn't work either (it hung at the "Press 1 to prepare disk" prompt, just before the actual install). So, as a last resort, I borrowed a 3 year old keyboard from a friend (still AT-style with the "normal", not PS/2, plug) and it worked! I'm not sure why. So, I would try to find a couple of keyboards and test it. The NeXTAnswers fix avoids hanging the machine if you have a serial mouse by not loading the PS/2 Mouse driver. It won't help this problem. Zeos might also have a BIOS upgrade. I didn't check with them, and I'm also not sure this would help at all. Jack Mayo mayojoh@ac.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (James P Klett) Subject: NEXT IN LINE???? Message-ID: <CxxHyD.Jn3@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 16:29:15 GMT Where have I been???? What is NEXT IN LINE (a new NeXT Rag??) How can I get it?? (Please post address or phone number) Thanks, JIM -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James P. Klett klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: dion.dock@mccaw.com (Dion Dock) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mapping "CapLock" To "Control" Date: 19 Oct 1994 16:15:02 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <383gm6$4p2@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <381lnt$5di@nunki.usc.edu> In article <381lnt$5di@nunki.usc.edu> taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) writes: > Hi, > > Is it possible to map the CapLock key on the PC keyboard to Control? Use the NextUSA keyboard type in Preferences to make your PC keyboard behave like a NeXT keyboard. -- Dion Dock. Paradigm Systems \\||// --DOOM-- Unit Test, Axys project. //||\\ dion.dock@mccaw.com
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Image into NEXTSTEP Date: 19 Oct 1994 13:26:00 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <383kr8$cai@anshar.shadow.net> References: <1994Oct18.210838.1156@weston.com> Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote: : I am intested in putting Images in NEXTSTEP. Specifically, I want to take : pictures of patients that come in to the clinic, an dput in in their : folder. I would like to do this with Intel hardware, and without : scanning. A video camera/Zap shot camera would be best. Get the Fast Movie Machine Pro (around $550). This will allow you to connect a video camera, and capture individual frames in TIFF format. - Jay
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrading a NeXT cube (Old) to NS 3.0 Date: 19 Oct 1994 17:25:50 GMT Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton Message-ID: <383kqu$4j0@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> I have got an old NeXT cube with NO floppy disk drive that I want to upgrade to NS 3.0. I have got an NS 3.0 CD-ROM and a boot floppy :-o. All the methods of upgrading the system seem to rely on booting from this floppy - which is slightly difficult without a disk drive to put it in. Has anyone else managed to upgrade to NS 3.0 without a floppy drive - if so how do I go about it ?? The machine will not recognise the CD-ROM at all even trying to boot with it from monitor fails. Any advice appreciated. Cheers Rupert. E-mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
From: dgd@nantucket.Eng.Sun.COM (Daniel Donovan) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 19 Oct 1994 16:02:11 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <383fu3$i58@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> In article anr@anshar.shadow.net, jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: >Keith Edwards (keith@cc.gatech.edu) wrote: >: Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) writes: >: >Solaris for Intel supports fewer peripherals than NeXTSTEP. >: The last time I checked this was most definately *NOT* the case. Solaris >: 2.1 x86 supported more far peripherals than NeXTSTEP, and 2.4 supports >: more than 2.1 did. > >The last time I called Sun (last week) the hardware list was pretty >limited. > >: >There is currently no edu discount on Solaris. >: I believe it's discounted at the standard edu discount rate, about 65% >: of list. > >I called SunExpress and was told that at this time there were NO edu >discounts. > > >- Jay >No NeXTmail...Yet > > To receive a current list of the hardware that we've tested or has been self-certified with 2.4, send email to either: x86hcl@cypress.west.sun.com (ASCI version) x86hcl.ps@cypress.west.sun.com (PostScript version) This list expands with each new driver/video update (roughly every 6 weeks). Dan (NeXTmail welcome.... 8-) )
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How can I make a MASTER NETINFO SERVER? Date: 19 Oct 1994 18:42:14 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <383pa6$3ju@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: baroque,undocumented Howdy! I am in Netinfo shock. I have scoured the NeXTstep Network and System Administration guide (release 3) searching for a way to add a master netinfo server. The setup: Four NeXTs running NeXTstep 3.1. As I inherited the network, each of the NeXTs perform their accounting locally, they are all standalone machines, in the local netinfo domain. I tried using Simple Network Starter on one of the machines to assign it as a master netinfo server that could server the entire network. Simple Network Starter crashes without updating the console in the midst of its installation. Many aspects of Netinfo are extremely non-intuitive and baroque - Netinfo Manager doesn't seem to have a method for creating a new domain. It is unclear whether using nidomain would let me clone one of the local databases and make it a master server. Documentation is extremely sketchy and incomplete. Because of these lacks, netinfo seems more daunting than sendmail. Is there any help in sight? Chris Penrose Center for Research in Computing and the Arts penrose@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: NS and OS/2 Message-ID: <jpanicoCxx8Jv.2y8@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 13:09:31 GMT I would like to install NSI 3.2 and OS/2 warp on the same SCSI HD> How should the drive be partitioned and in what order should the OSs be installed? Will OS/2s fancy bootloader allow dynamic selection of OS/2-NSI at boot time? Any tips appreciated. Thanks. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: TALUS Support In-Reply-To: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de's message of Tue, 18 Oct 1994 13:34:40 GMT To: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Oct18191359@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <37u9ol$ssc@anshar.shadow.net> <CxvF1t.3AJ@qb.rhein-main.de> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 23:13:58 GMT In article <CxvF1t.3AJ@qb.rhein-main.de> vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) writes: In article <37u9ol$ssc@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: > Support I've recieved from Talus has been top-notch. Who did you send > email to? Unfortunately, info@talus.com doesn't seem to get answered too > often. Give them a call at 713-578-1434. As for the ATI PCI driver, no > glitches here. Yup, Jason came back to me right after my posting. The delay was because one of the guys that answer the info account isn't there now. I should have contacted him directly. He sent me two more versions of their driver right away, so I must say that support is indeed good. The driver still doesn't work on my machine, but I have good hope that it will be fixed. Then you are more lucky than I am. Two months after half a dozen messages to various people at Talus, including info and even a couple of posts to the net about it, I still haven't received a single line from them. From that I conclude that Talus really isn't interested in selling drivers. I for one will not ever again even try to deal with them. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Subject: Re: 3.3 - when? Message-ID: <Cxy4E7.9GC@aeon.in-berlin.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Cities in Dust References: <37m4bd$kbe@news.tamu.edu> <Cxro37.Dy@manki.toppoint.de> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 00:37:19 GMT Manfred R hr (manroe@toppoint.de) wrote: > Wann kommt eigentlich 3.5? NT 3.5? Keine Ahnung. :-) Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:/~wolf _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: [Q]: Recommend Fax Solutions Message-ID: <1994Oct17.055523.9927@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 05:55:23 GMT What are people choosing as a faz solution for todays NEXTSTEP machine?? Intel and/or motorola? -- neil -- Sincerely, Neil Greene
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: Re: 90 Applications Running Message-ID: <1994Oct17.055726.10076@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <37ga5q$9lj@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 05:57:26 GMT In article <37ga5q$9lj@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes: > Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: > : I just did something with NeXTSTEP I believed impossible with any PC > : operating system - running 90 applications simultaneously. This was done > : on my P5-90 with 32MB RAM, at 1152x896 72hz 16-bit color. The > : system slowed down slightly, and there was relatively little swapping. Ontop > : of running these apps, I also played the Scott McNealy QT video from the > : NeXTIME CD (200kb/s) with no dropped frames, and perfectly synchronized > : sound, while playing DOOM at 200% view (which ran smoothly). Until now, I > : thought this could not be done. This seems like a miracle to someone who's > : accustomed to running Windows and OS/2 with 2-3 apps, and having to reboot > : every half-hour. > > : Running Apps: > > [munch] > > What was the size of your swap? BTW, running 90 apps isn't too surprising, > since most of them were swapped out anyway. Now doing 90 compiles at the > same it...that would be something. :-> Ross. Its a good thing you didn't fire up FrameMaker. -- Sincerely, Neil Greene
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q]: Recommend Fax Solutions Date: 20 Oct 1994 14:59:34 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3860km$df7@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Oct17.055523.9927@bMD.com> In article <1994Oct17.055523.9927@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes: > What are people choosing as a faz solution for todays NEXTSTEP machine?? > Intel and/or motorola? > > -- neil Seems like the NXFax / Zyxel bundle from Black & White Software (nxfax@bandw.com) is the solution of choice. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where can I buy Tailor Date: 20 Oct 1994 15:02:19 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3860pr$dg8@potogold.rmii.com> References: <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu> In article <9410171954.AA10221@estel.uindy.edu> steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire) writes: > Hi folx.... > > I need to buy Tailor (is there an educational version?) I got > the demo off of ftp.cs.orst.edu and I *love* it. Now... how do I buy > it. (I sent mail to belgium... still waiting.. I guess it's nite-time > there.) Anyway... I'd love to just enable the demo and get to work. > Can I buy it from anybody out there? > Both versions of FirstClass NV's outstanding Tailor 2.0 (Office and Publishing) are available from OpenSource, Inc. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: smcgrew@moo.uoregon.edu (Steve McGrew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: re : screendump Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:41:29 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Distribution: world Message-ID: <3866jp$180@pith.uoregon.edu> There is a next Application in the 3.x release called Grab. This will allow you to take a screen grab Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rtthomas@acs.ucalgary.ca (R. Todd Thomas) Subject: OpenStepSpec is on ftp.next.com Summary: out, done, finished Message-ID: <Oct20.185416.93444@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 18:54:16 GMT Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta Keywords: OpenStep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Since no one else has mentioned anything, as of midnight Wednesday, the OpenStepSpec can be found on: ftp:ftp.next.com:/pub/OpenStepSpec Todd Thomas rtthomas@acs.ucalgary.ca todd@avocado.cuc.ab.ca [NeXTMail]
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Mail.app] Convert ~/.NeXT/.mailalias to ~/.mailrc Date: 20 Oct 1994 14:22:21 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410201921.AA16480@alleg.EDU> While using Terminal.app to mail today, I was reminded again how annoying it is to not be able to use one's mail aliases from inside a shell. I must imagine that there is _somone_ out there who could devise a script that would convert Mail.app mailaliases to .mailrc format. All it would have to do is take this format friends:mike@somehost.edu,carl@somewhere.else,joe@someplace.com and make it alias friends mike@somehost.edu carl@somewhere.else joe@someplace.com Anyone ? TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Mail.app] Convert ~/.NeXT/.mailalias to ~/.mailrc Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:10:42 -0500 Organization: Proxima, Inc. Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <px9410202110.AA01333@pine.proxima.com> Here's perl to do it: #!/usr/local/bin/perl # convert standard input to BSD .mailrc alias, assuming input of # NeXT .mailalias file. Beware of source addressing (evil). while(<STDIN>) { $_=~s/\,/\ /g; $_=~s/\:/\ /; print "alias $_"; } Note that ,'s in comments will be replaced by spaces, but this should be of little consequence. If you have addresses with commas in place for mail routing, two options come to my mind: 1: refuse to send mail to the person with this address until they start using human mail addressing 2: write something more intelligent than the above: you get what you pay for :) YMMV. -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Director, Network Services McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q]: Recommend Fax Solutions Date: 21 Oct 1994 02:04:15 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <3877iv$cvi@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Oct17.055523.9927@bMD.com> In article <1994Oct17.055523.9927@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes: > What are people choosing as a faz solution for todays NEXTSTEP machine?? > Intel and/or motorola? > NXFax from B&W software. A classic NeXT app, does its job with zero hassle and works every time. The company is as reliable as its product, they've been great to deal with (gave me very expert help in sorting out how to make NXFax and PNI slip live happily together). -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
From: rrn@po.cwru.edu (BoB) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Should I buy the #9GXE64Pro on the ATI GPT PCI for NeXT Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:15:58 GMT Organization: Shafted Software Distribution: World Message-ID: <38653u$5lm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hello: As the title suggests, I am looking into buying a new PCI video card to run OS/2, NeXT, and Windows. My choices have been narrowed to the ATI GPT 2MB or the #9 GXE64 Pro 2MB. I am leaning towards the #9 because I can get NeXT drivers for free (as opposed to the ATI where I will have to buy them from a third party :(...poor college student, ya know ). So, I ask....How does the #9 perform in NeXT using the new #9 drivers? If bad, any other suggestions would be appreciated, 'cept they must fit the following qualifications: 1) It must be 64 bit and it must be PCI 2) It must NOT be a diamond card! Any comments are appreciated. BoB
Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Message-ID: <schwettCxzxuL.15B@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37uols$kse@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <3812sj$82n@anshar.shadow.net> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 00:11:07 GMT >Perhaps you know if the following peripherals are supported: ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (mach64) Adaptec 2940 NCR 53C825 Soundblaster 16 Well... All but the 2940 *are*, but I'd be a little bit careful. I had absolutely no luck installing Solaris on my x86 system with an NCR 53C825, and Sun's tech support could not help me. I tried the latest driver update to no avail, and a friend of mine also tried it on his system which uses an NCR 53C810 and is a totally different setup, and he got the very same kernel trap during installation. The NCR driver, it seems, is just a bit flaky. (IMHO) I did finally install it with an Adaptec 1542B to check it out, and was tremendously dissapointed with the system but especially with the design. (Or rather the lack of a coherent design) Just my two cents... (Also the ATi Driver is not included in the latest release, as far as I know, but is available on ftp.uu.net in vendor/sun/sun-doc/... it's a disk image called something.3) Mark Schwettmann -- schwett@netcom.com, schwett@soda.berkeley.edu, schwett@uclink.berkeley.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Message-ID: <thompsonCxzz9F.HJC@netcom.com> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories References: <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> <36us9b$q2@rosie.next.com> <SWIET.94Oct17151849@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 00:41:37 GMT This doesn't make any sense and I would never expect it to work. I can highlight any number of things in a variety of windows .. then when I click on a button in another background app, how is it supposed to know which highlighted thing to use? Or how to use it? The current method of providing Services makes far more sense.. Eric thompson@netcom.com Alexander Swietlicki <swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> wrote: > >Also, here's something I keep expecting to work for some reason: > >I have Edit open next to Webster. I double click on a word in Edit, >then (while Edit is still in the front, and without first bringing >Webster to the front) click on Webster's define button. > >And it doesn't do what I want it to do. > >After a moment of confusion, I think "oh yeah," and double click on that >word in Edit again, then hit command =. > >I like my way better.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: imdat@irex.de (Imdat Solak) Subject: Re: Mapping "CapLock" To "Control" Message-ID: <1994Oct20.093606.7412@irex.de> Sender: imdat@irex.de Organization: IREX Software AG, D-83329 Waging, Germany References: <381lnt$5di@nunki.usc.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 09:36:06 MET In article <381lnt$5di@nunki.usc.edu> taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) writes: > Hi, > > Is it possible to map the CapLock key on the PC keyboard to Control? > > Thanks in advance. > Yep, use /NextDeveloper/Demos/Keyboard.app and remap it Imdat -- -- Imdat Solak * IREX Software AG * Hochreit 7 * D-83329 Waging * Germany phone: +49 8681 694-0 * fax: +49 8681 694-200 * mail: imdat@irex.de #import <sys/company/disclaimer.h>
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Upgrading a NeXT cube (Old) to NS 3.0 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 21 Oct 1994 04:11:20 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <387f18$6m0@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <383kqu$4j0@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> In article <383kqu$4j0@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom) writes: >All the methods of upgrading the system seem to rely on booting from >this floppy - which is slightly difficult without a disk drive to put >it in. > >Has anyone else managed to upgrade to NS 3.0 without a floppy drive - >if so how do I go about it ?? The machine will not recognise the >CD-ROM at all even trying to boot with it from monitor fails. I can answer this for 3.2 (I honestly don't recommend running 3.0). As you've noticed, the boot ROM in pre-Turbo machines isn't capable of reading CD-ROMs directly. There are a couple of workarounds. One involves using a special boot program that can load from CD-ROM, the other involves booting normally, but loading a different Mach kernel (the so-called "upgrade" procedure). Both of these are on the floppy. Here are three approaches I've used successfully (for fresh installations, not "upgrades"): 1. Remove the internal drive from the cube, install it in an external enclosure. Plug that and a CD-ROM drive into some kind of NeXTstation; install NEXTSTEP on the external. Replace the drive in the cube. 2. Network the cube to another machine. On that machine, rename /private/tftpboot/boot temporarily and place a good copy of boot.cdrom in /private/tftpboot/boot (note that the copy in /private/tftpboot/boot.cdrom distributed with 3.2 DOES NOT WORK--the *earlier* version on the boot floppy does). Set up just enough for bootpd to run. Plug the CD-ROM drive into the cube, and boot from Ethernet instead of the [nonexistent] floppy. Put the second machine back the way it was. 3. Borrow a small external SCSI disk. Write a good boot.cdrom to its boot block. Put the "important" patches (Sendmail, Restore, DOSFileSystem, etc.) on the external's filesystem. Connect that drive and the CD-ROM to the cube; boot from the external. Wipe the internal, install NEXTSTEP, install the patches, do something nice for the person who lent you the external. (If you have a working optical drive in the cube, you could presumably use that in place of the external SCSI drive.) Followups to comp.sys.next.sysadmin please. -=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Message-ID: <davisreCy01M7.B7@netcom.com> Organization: independent References: <9410051535.AA29468@alleg.EDU> <36us9b$q2@rosie.next.com> <SWIET.94Oct17151849@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> <thompsonCxzz9F.HJC@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 01:32:30 GMT Eric Thompson <thompson@netcom.com> wrote: > >This doesn't make any sense and I would never expect it to work. I can >highlight any number of things in a variety of windows .. then when I click >on a button in another background app, how is it supposed to know which >highlighted thing to use? Or how to use it? > Easy -- the Appkit should make sure to message Webster whenever text is selected in any app for any reason. Sure it'll involve some overhead, but the hardware will catch up soon enough anyway. > >The current method of providing Services makes far more sense.. > You're just too dang practical, Eric. Rob -- Robert Davis (davisre@netcom.com) "Look up, Hannah."
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 00:34:45 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <pi+0iw1.jhepp@delphi.com> References: <37s3kd$j68@crcnis1.unl.edu> <Oct17.230924.24557@acs.ucalgary.ca> Indeed. I'd speculate that "epic" could only qualify if one of only a handful of "giants" came to the party.
From: adler@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Bruce Adler [Contractor]) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 21 Oct 1994 07:01:03 GMT Organization: Sunsoft Inc., Los Angeles Site, Ca. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <387ovf$rf5@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <3812sj$82n@anshar.shadow.net> <schwettCxzxuL.15B@netcom.com> Cc: In article <schwettCxzxuL.15B@netcom.com>, <schwett@netcom.com> wrote: >... >I had absolutely no luck installing Solaris on my x86 system with an >NCR 53C825, and Sun's tech support could not help me. I tried the latest >driver update to no avail, and a friend of mine also tried it on his system >which uses an NCR 53C810 and is a totally different setup, and he got the >very same kernel trap during installation. >... It works just fine for me? What kind of systems do you have? What kind of kernel trap did you get? BA
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Should I buy the #9GXE64Pro on the ATI GPT PCI for NeXT Date: 20 Oct 1994 14:03:00 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: World Message-ID: <386bck$mdt@anshar.shadow.net> References: <38653u$5lm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> BoB (rrn@po.cwru.edu) wrote: : As the title suggests, I am looking into buying a new PCI video card to run : OS/2, NeXT, and Windows. My choices have been narrowed to the ATI GPT 2MB or : the #9 GXE64 Pro 2MB. I am leaning towards the #9 because I can get NeXT : drivers for free (as opposed to the ATI where I will have to buy them from a : third party :(...poor college student, ya know ). So, I ask....How does : the #9 perform in NeXT using the new #9 drivers? If bad, any other suggestions : would be appreciated, 'cept they must fit the following qualifications: I favor the GPT for cross-platform compatability. It performs well under NeXTSTEP (with the Talus driver). If you're worried about paying for drivers, there will be a NeXT driver for 3.3. Under Windows, ATI is the fastest card around, and the drivers are extremely stable. It also includes OS/2 drivers, which work quite well (I didn't use OS/2 long enough to benchmark it). - Jay - Advocating OpenStep, not NeXTSTEP NeXTmail...Yes! (Incoming Only)
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP USER 3.3 UPGRADE Date: 21 Oct 1994 12:11:05 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <388b4p$9d5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <387afg$fho@digifix.digifix.com> Denise Schneider (Denise_Schneider@NeXT.COM) wrote: : NEXTSTEP USER 3.3 UPGRADE : ORDER NEXTSTEP USER 3.3 UPGRADE BEFORE DECEMBER 16, 1994 : . . . AND RECEIVE A COPY OF NEXTIME FOR FREE : NeXT Telesales is now taking orders for upgrades to NEXTSTEP User : 3.3 for Intel and Motorola processors. ... : NEXTSTEP User 3.3 Upgrade (part no. 5683) - Motorola $199 : NEXTSTEP User 3.3 Upgrade (part no. 5659) - Intel $199 ... : NEXTSTEP upgrades are scheduled to ship mid-December 1994. Does anybody know if this applies to academic licences, too ? Or is there another pricing scheme ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lng@netcom.com (Lap Yan Larry Ng) Subject: Any good NeXTStep Magazines???? Message-ID: <lngCxzEJ9.AI5@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 17:13:55 GMT Hello there, Anyone can tell me some good NeXTStep Magazines I can subscribe to? Anywhere I can find a list for those publishers' address and phone #s??? Please email me some info about it. Thanks in advance. Larry
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Date: 21 Oct 1994 13:16:08 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <388euo$bhl@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <pi+0iw1.jhepp@delphi.com> In article <pi+0iw1.jhepp@delphi.com> Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com> writes: > Indeed. I'd speculate that "epic" could only qualify if one of only > a handful of "giants" came to the party. Agreed.
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP USER 3.3 UPGRADE Date: 21 Oct 1994 16:30:48 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <388qbo$1um@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <388b4p$9d5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <388b4p$9d5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> writes: :Denise Schneider (Denise_Schneider@NeXT.COM) wrote: :: NEXTSTEP USER 3.3 UPGRADE : :: ORDER NEXTSTEP USER 3.3 UPGRADE BEFORE DECEMBER 16, 1994 :: . . . AND RECEIVE A COPY OF NEXTIME FOR FREE : :: NeXT Telesales is now taking orders for upgrades to NEXTSTEP User :: 3.3 for Intel and Motorola processors. :... :: NEXTSTEP User 3.3 Upgrade (part no. 5683) - Motorola $199 :: NEXTSTEP User 3.3 Upgrade (part no. 5659) - Intel $199 :... :: NEXTSTEP upgrades are scheduled to ship mid-December 1994. : :Does anybody know if this applies to academic licences, too ? Or is there :another pricing scheme ? I e-mailed Denise. I will share the info if or when I receive a reply. -- Paul M. Cardon Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us (Robert C. Doss) Subject: NEXTSTEP front end for IRC Message-ID: <CxzIr7.6Gp@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 18:45:07 GMT Does anyone know of a NEXTSTEP front end for IRC (Internet Relay Chat)? I would be most interested in one if someone can point me right direction of its whereabouts. -- *---------------------------------------------------------------------* |Robert C. Doss Jr. |Internet:RobDoss@nvc.cc.ca.us|NeXT mail & MIME ok| |Napa Valley College|Fax: (707) 253-3063 |MIME mail preferred| *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: hauser@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Hauser Andreas) Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations Message-ID: <1994Oct21.171827.5172@ifi.unizh.ch> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science References: <38238n$4jo@News1.mcs.com> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 17:18:27 GMT Tom Meyer (tmeyer@mcs.com) wrote: : I'd like to get opinions/recommendations on laser printers and sound cards : for my Intel machine. I've looked at the HP 4L and 4M (I think that's the : models, one's 300 dpi and one's 600 dpi) and will probably lean that way : unless I hear horror stories. Take a look at the Texas Instruments Postscript Printers. MicroLaser ... Their output is much better than the HP's and they are about in the same price range. (Be sure to take a PS printer, though). Andreas -- HAUSER@avalon.unizh.ch
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Date: 20 Oct 1994 19:19:32 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <386fs4$6h9@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <SWIET.94Oct17151849@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> > Also, here's something I keep expecting to work for some reason: > > I have Edit open next to Webster. I double click on a word in Edit, > then (while Edit is still in the front, and without first bringing > Webster to the front) click on Webster's define button. > > And it doesn't do what I want it to do. > > After a moment of confusion, I think "oh yeah," and double click on that > word in Edit again, then hit command =. > > I like my way better. So would I, but I guess there would be the problem of the general case. What if you have selections in 4 other windows (In Edit, or other Apps), Does NeXTSTEP have the ability to understand from a separate application space, "Get the selection from the last active window, and if none there, then the one before that, and if none there..." --- Geoff ____________________________________________________________________________ Geoffrey Brunkhorst Brunkhorst.Geoffrey@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Followup-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 21 Oct 1994 14:35:09 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3891kt$f19@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <383fu3$i58@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Daniel Donovan (dgd@nantucket.Eng.Sun.COM) wrote: : To receive a current list of the hardware that we've tested or has been : self-certified with 2.4, send email to either: : x86hcl@cypress.west.sun.com (ASCI version) : x86hcl.ps@cypress.west.sun.com (PostScript version) : This list expands with each new driver/video update (roughly every 6 weeks). Thanks for the info. I'm probably going to wait for Solaris 2.5 to be released. BTW: How many apps have made it across from Solaris SPARC to Intel - WordPerfect, Frame, Virtuoso, Illustrator, Photoshop? Any? I contacted a number of Unix software resellers (ie. UniDirect), and was told there were almost no apps available. - Jay
From: christy.nelson@Eng.Sun.COM (Christy Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Test Participant Invitation, DOE Usability Study Date: 21 Oct 1994 17:43:07 GMT Organization: SunSoft, Inc. (A Sun Microsystems, Inc. subsidiary) Message-ID: <388ujb$mkt@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Keywords: usability, unix, testing, OS, Solaris The Human Computer Interaction group at SunSoft is looking for individuals to participate in an upcoming usability study for DOE. We are currently looking for individuals who: - Have used a UNIX-based operating system, at least weekly, for the last year - Have sucessfully installed operating systems and applications in a network environment - Are willing to sign a non-disclosure agreement - Are willing to be video taped during the study (your identity will be kept in confidence) - Are available for two to three hours on 1 day between Tuesday, 11/8 and Friday, 11/11 - Work/live within driving distance to Mountain View, CA The study will be conducted at SunSoft's Usability Engineering Center in Mountain View. The hours of the study are flexible to fit your schedule. During the study, you will: - Perform installation tasks - Discuss your likes, dislikes, concerns, and ideas If you are interested in participating in this study, or know of someone who is, please contact: Christy Nelson Admin/Lab Coord. Usability Engineering SunSoft, Inc. (A Sun Microsystems, Inc. subsidiary) (415) 336-3945 (phone) (415) 691-1024 (FAX) christy.nelson@Eng.Sun.COM
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Damn the Alpha-lock key! Date: 21 Oct 1994 14:22:22 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410211922.AA26039@alleg.EDU> Does anyone else hate it when their ALPHALOCK gets turned on by accident? Half the time when I use command-shift [command key] I instead turn on the alphalock. I know there is a way to avoid this when you are root (someone wrote a program of somekind, but I am not root) but is there any way to re-map "command shift" to be something other than alpha-lock? (I looked at the keyboard.app but couldn't seem to find a way). I am using NS 3.2 black with the standard keyboard. Thanks TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What is NEXTSTEP and OpenStep (Was: OpenSTEP(sp?) Date: 21 Oct 1994 19:31:09 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <3894tt$eqe@wave.aoml.erl.gov> References: <373tkt$5gg@potogold.rmii.com> I just read through the recent thread, and also somewhat perused the specs...but I'd like to clear a few things up in my ignorant mind.. In article <373tkt$5gg@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) writes: > See if I can explain this in under 20 pages. NEXTSTEP and OpenStep are > both a combination of an operating systems and development environment. > NEXTSTEP is the product name for the combination for which both the OS and > the developer tools are created and supported by NEXT. OpenStep > (generally) is a third-party operating system which is running a > development environment that meets compliance standards created by NeXT > for an open version of the NEXTSTEP development environment (in other > words, it is a compatible clone). > OPENSTEP OPERATING SYSTEM: > OpenStep's operating system base is Solaris when OpenStep is running on > Sparc, it is OSF/1 when running on DEC/Alpha. These OS's have a kernel > (similar to Mach), an imaging model (Display Poscript or equivalent such > as X-windows), and a set of UNIX libraries. > It is my understanding that Openstep is only the specifications for the programming environment and for the API's and libraries that are needed to execute programs, and not the operating system. In other words, I though that any Operating system that can provide the needed development tools, compile and run OpenStep compliant programs would be OpenStep compliant no matter what the underlying operating system is. Sure, the operating system in reality will most likely need to be tightly integrated to be compliant, but I was under the impression that OpenStep is *not* an operating system (to be clear). Am I correct, or simply way off base? Thanks a lot, Cary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cary A. Bakker C.S. Major, FIU (Florida International University) http://solix.fiu.edu:8000/student/cbakke01/www/home.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: NEXT IN LINE???? References: <CxxHyD.Jn3@news.cis.umn.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 10:28:43 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct21.102843.1142@proximus.north.de> In article <CxxHyD.Jn3@news.cis.umn.edu>, James P Klett <klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> wrote: >Where have I been???? > >What is NEXT IN LINE (a new NeXT Rag??) > >How can I get it?? (Please post address or phone number) NEXT IN LINE rob@bedazzled.com c/o Robert A. Wyatt P.O. Box 392 Berryville, VA 22611 nil-info@nil.com (info, subscription) subscriptions@nil.com
From: bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Advantages of Solaris with OpenStep over native NeXTSTEP ?? Date: 21 Oct 1994 20:14:09 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <3897eh$fr9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> References: <3894tt$eqe@wave.aoml.erl.gov> It seems that Solaris with OpenStep might be favorable simply because Solaris allows one to use X natively as well as take advantage of the OpenStep development environment. NeXT has a wonderful environment to work in, and I don't know much about what solaris will be like, so I was wondering how you all feel about the above statement... Thanks again, Cary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Getting Pictures into a NEXTSTEP machine Message-ID: <1994Oct21.211402.1642@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 21:14:02 GMT I want to be able to use a camera like the Apple Quicktake camera. I want to take pictures, then go back and load them onto my machine. I have Intel hardware, so I could use Soft-PC. Does anyone know anything about how to accomplish this? THanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mapping "CapLock" To "Control" Date: 20 Oct 1994 12:36:25 GMT Organization: Legent Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <385o89$qc6@booch.legent.com> References: <381lnt$5di@nunki.usc.edu> In article <381lnt$5di@nunki.usc.edu> taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) writes: > Hi, > > Is it possible to map the CapLock key on the PC keyboard to Control? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Ta-Wei "David" Li > UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California > Member, League for Programming Freedom > "Innovate, don't litigate." Just select the NeXT-USA keyboard in the Preferences app. This is something that should have been mentioned in the relese notes. The NeXT-USA keymapping maps BOTH "Alt" keys to "Cmd", maps the "Caps Lock" to "Ctrl", and maps the "ctrl" keys to "Alt". It's almost like having a NeXT keyboard ;-) -- _____________________________________________________________ John C. Randolph (408) 730-3500 jcr@sv.legent.com Legent Corporation 710 LakeWay Drive, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 Opinions available for your use at a very reasonable royalty!
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how many monitors can you use at once? (Intel?) Date: 21 Oct 1994 15:49:42 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3899h6$p02@cobber.cord.edu> References: <37u9vj$svb@anshar.shadow.net> <380tnp$crs@darkstar.ucsc.edu> What about Intel machines? You can install multiple miroCrystal cards on a PC and it works under windows. It would be nice if miro wrote drivers so you could have multiple heads on a PC under NeXTstep too. I kinda miss the NeXTDimension color + mono megapixel displays setup. Anyone know if the new miroCrystal 40S will work with a miroCrystal 32S under (gasp) Windows? The 32S works with the full line of older cards - the (8S/16S/32S). -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: nguyen05@futures.wharton.upenn.edu (DUCT NGUYEN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Info on *Daydream*, PLEASE! Date: 22 Oct 1994 16:42:24 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <38bfdg$icn@netnews.upenn.edu> Is anyone using the Daydream box? From what I've heard, this would basically give me a Macintosh Quadra (though I don't know which one. As fast as a 605? 800? 840AV?) because it comes with the Apple ROMs. I'm interested in learning more about this product, including the company that makes it. And if you have one for sale, please let me know how it's worked for you. And, of course, an asking price. Many thanks in advance. Regards, Duc Nguyen 215-417-6703 nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu
From: bosborne@nature.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Osborne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: French <-> English Dict.? Date: 22 Oct 94 17:40:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <bosborne.782847634@nature.Berkeley.EDU> Summary: Is there a French-English dictionary? Keywords: French English Dictionary To the Group, I am looking for an English-to-French dictionary (and the reverse would be nice) for NeXT, or for Unix generally (compilable on my NeXT). Do such things exist? I will gladly summarize should you choose to reply to me. Brian Osborne bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: Font outline files Message-ID: <1994Oct22.180203.6605@dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 18:02:03 GMT I happened across several Adobe Font Metric (afm) files and wanted to integrate them into my system, but I need font outline files to accompany each afm. According to some man pages (I think screenafm) it says that an outline file is provided by the maker of the afm file. Where might I find outline files to accompany afm's? (The afm files were obtained from grivel.une.edu.au/pub/adobe/AFMFiles) Thanks for any help. -- Scott Davenport sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu (NeXTMail OK!)
From: swiet@server.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Date: 23 Oct 1994 01:08:18 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <SWIET.94Oct22210818@server.cs.jhu.edu> References: <SWIET.94Oct17151849@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu> <386fs4$6h9@fermat.mayo.edu> In-reply-to: brunkhorst@mayo.edu's message of 20 Oct 1994 19:19:32 GMT In article <386fs4$6h9@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu writes: > I have Edit open next to Webster. I double click on a word in Edit, > then (while Edit is still in the front, and without first bringing > Webster to the front) click on Webster's define button. [Knowing better, I still expect this to define the word.] So would I, but I guess there would be the problem of the general case. What if you have selections in 4 other windows (In Edit, or other Apps), Does NeXTSTEP have the ability to understand from a separate application space, "Get the selection from the last active window, and if none there, then the one before that, and if none there..." Aha! At last someone understands my post. And that's pretty close to what I had in mind. In order for what I described to work, Webster would have to know: - that it wasn't in the front when the define button was pressed. - how to find out what app/window was...and ask it for its selection. - how to indicate an error if that window or selection is unavailable. This seems general enough, and to be within the capabilities of object- oriented design. Maybe even NEXTSTEP. :-) Wouldn't it also be neat if you could double click on word in Edit, then (while Edit is still in the front) click on the Find button of a partially obscured HeaderViewer? Sure beats mousing around through Services--> HeaderViewer-->Find. And it's intuitive enough that I keep making the mistake of expecting it to work! [Or we can attempt sarcasm and suggest that every app on every computer on all known inhabitable planets and their moon colonies should message our Webster whenever a selection is made. That'll sure tell 'em all!]
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Date: 23 Oct 1994 02:13:38 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Distribution: world Message-ID: <38cgsi$6uu@network.ucsd.edu> References: <SWIET.94Oct22210818@server.cs.jhu.edu> Alexander Swietlicki (swiet@server.cs.jhu.edu) wrote: : In article <386fs4$6h9@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu writes: : > I have Edit open next to Webster. I double click on a word in Edit, : > then (while Edit is still in the front, and without first bringing : > Webster to the front) click on Webster's define button. : [Knowing better, I still expect this to define the word.] : So would I, but I guess there would be the problem of the general case. What : if you have selections in 4 other windows (In Edit, or other Apps), Does : NeXTSTEP have the ability to understand from a separate application space, : "Get the selection from the last active window, and if none there, then the : one before that, and if none there..." : Aha! At last someone understands my post. And that's pretty close to : what I had in mind. : In order for what I described to work, Webster would have to know: : - that it wasn't in the front when the define button was pressed. : - how to find out what app/window was...and ask it for its selection. : - how to indicate an error if that window or selection is unavailable. One thing I really don't like about many X window managers/setups. I do NOT want mouse clicks to background windows to be registered as "events" in addition, I just wanted that window up. When I do that I don't pay attention to where exactly I'm clicking; well because, I can't see all of the window so I don't know what exactly I wanted to do. Next and the Mac have this right, in my opinion. I bet most of the time it's the correct choice. -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ak201667@sol.yorku.ca Subject: help with tin on NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct22.111741.1@sol.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 16:17:41 GMT Hi: I was wondering if I could get some advice. I would like to set up a situation on my NeXT account at the university to be able to read News. However I only want a news reader that will allow me to read the news on a vt100 terminal as I want the convenience of being able to read the news from home (by the way I'm using a friends account to post this). Now, I believe i've got the right newsreader called tin. I've tried to run it and it can't seem to find the nntpserver file. I've looked around on our system using whereis to see if they tried to hide it. I haven't been able to find it. Tin also claims that I should or could set the environment variable for the NNTPSERVER. Unfortunately I'm not sure of how to go about that or if it's even possible (it might require privileges that I just don't have; but i'm not sure). Also the university has limited our diskquota to 5 megs as well as our privileges. Now, on the vax system that i'm currently on they are using a server (?) called newshub.ccs.yorku.ca from which to get the news. What I would like to know is: 1) would tin be able to allow me to read the news on a vt100 terminal and if not is there a newsreader that would? 2) do I need to have an nntpserver on my NeXT system to be able to read the news or could I set up tin so that it will be able to access this server at newshub.ccs.yorku.ca? 3) if I do need to setup an nntpserver on my system is there something that I could set up locally on my own account that won't take up megs of disk space and won't crash the system? Finally, any info would be appreciated. If you want to email me my NeXT accounts email address is atks2091@dialup.glade.yorku.ca. However I would rather you posted to this newsgroup. Thank-You, for now Peter Pochadt atks2091@dialup.glade.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ak201667@sol.yorku.ca Subject: help with tin on NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct22.113219.1@sol.yorku.ca> Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York University Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 16:32:19 GMT Path: sol.yorku.ca!ak201667 From: ak201667@sol.yorku.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help with tin on NeXT Message-ID: <1994Oct22.111741.1@sol.yorku.ca> Date: 22 Oct 94 11:17:41 -500 Organization: York University Lines: 38 Hi: I was wondering if I could get some advice. I would like to set up a situation on my NeXT account at the university to be able to read News. However I only want a news reader that will allow me to read the news on a vt100 terminal as I want the convenience of being able to read the news from home (by the way I'm using a friends account to post this). Now, I believe i've got the right newsreader called tin. I've tried to run it and it can't seem to find the nntpserver file. I've looked around on our system using whereis to see if they tried to hide it. I haven't been able to find it. Tin also claims that I should or could set the environment variable for the NNTPSERVER. Unfortunately I'm not sure of how to go about that or if it's even possible (it might require privileges that I just don't have; but i'm not sure). Also the university has limited our diskquota to 5 megs as well as our privileges. Now, on the vax system that i'm currently on they are using a server (?) called newshub.ccs.yorku.ca from which to get the news. What I would like to know is: 1) would tin be able to allow me to read the news on a vt100 terminal and if not is there a newsreader that would? 2) do I need to have an nntpserver on my NeXT system to be able to read the news or could I set up tin so that it will be able to access this server at newshub.ccs.yorku.ca? 3) if I do need to setup an nntpserver on my system is there something that I could set up locally on my own account that won't take up megs of disk space and won't crash the system? Finally, any info would be appreciated. If you want to email me my NeXT accounts email address is atks2091@dialup.glade.yorku.ca. However I would rather you posted to this newsgroup. Thank-You, for now Peter Pochadt atks2091@dialup.glade.yorku.ca
From: taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mapping "CapLock" To "Control" Date: 22 Oct 1994 22:44:53 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@nunki.usc.edu Message-ID: <38ct8l$mla@nunki.usc.edu> References: <381lnt$5di@nunki.usc.edu> > Is it possible to map the CapLock key on the PC keyboard to Control? > Thanks for all who respond to my posts. The NeXTUSA setup in the Preference makes the PC keyboard works exactly like the black keyboard. -- Ta-Wei "David" Li UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: cosc19vt@marge.cc.uh.edu (Wladislaw Szwab) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS and OS/2 Date: 23 Oct 1994 06:29:33 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <38cvsd$hue@masala.cc.uh.edu> I have OS2/2.1 and NS (Intel) 3.2. OS2 bootloader gives a choice what is loaded. Partition the disk with NS, install NS and then on a unused portion of the HDD install OS2. -- *********************************************************** * Konrad W. SZWAB * TK-421 - Warhammer * * 8619 Ariel * First Imperial Temporal Division * * Houston, TX 77074 * 17th Heavy Tank Group, Unit 1210 * * U.S.A. * AERGISTAL * *---------------------------------------------------------* * cosc19vt@simpsons.cc.UH.EDU * *---------------------------------------------------------* * There are a few of you that will understand the above * * Be proud of it. It is not over yet. * ***********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: Mac refuses to acknowledge Seagate drive. It cCan't find root folder Message-ID: <Cy3vrt.D3K@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: na Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 03:16:41 GMT Hi. I am trying to connect an external scsi drive - a Seagate model ST4702N-to a Mac(IIci) with no success. When I run the utility "Apple HD SC Setup" to format it, I get the message : "Unable to locate a suitable drive connected to the scsi port". If I run the 'Norton Utilities' program, it sees the drive.It tells me its scsi id. I used a NeXTstation to format this drive with the Macintosh file system, hoping that when attached to the Mac it would finally recognize it. Well... it still doesn't . "Apple HD SC Setup" tells me the same thing and when I ran again 'Norton Utilities' it says : "the root folder could't be found" Can someone please help resolve this problem? Your reply will be very appreciated . bye, Ze Tomas
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Date: 23 Oct 1994 07:49:05 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941023134854.246AACUR.malc@jeeves> > > So would I, but I guess there would be the problem of the general > > case. What if you have selections in 4 other windows (In Edit, > > or other Apps), Does NeXTSTEP have the ability to understand from > > a separate application space, "Get the selection from the last > > active window, and if none there, then the one before that, and > > if none there..." > > > Aha! At last someone understands my post. And that's pretty close > to what I had in mind. > > In order for what I described to work, Webster would have to know: > ... a lot. I understood your first post. I wonder if you have understood the consequences of what you're asking? Basically all services would be active at the same time. Every time you switched from one app to another, any services offered by the app you just selected would be triggered. Suppose I just want to move a window out of the way, or want to actually do something completely unrelated in another app? Your idea sounds vaguely attractive in your limited scenario, but what when you have a dozen applications open... suppose I select something in Edit, which I want to look up in Websters, I then have to move a PasteUp window to get at Websters, so PasteUp imports the text I just selected and wipes a load of formatting I just did. No thanks. I prefer the much more intuitive thing of actually telling the computer to do something -- DWITY rather than having it interpret DWIM. Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Trouble booting from Optical Disk Followup-To: poster Date: 23 Oct 1994 17:55:08 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <38e81s$igd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Keywords: Boot, Optical Hi, recently I created a bootable Optical Disk using the BuildDisk application on my cube. I can boot in single user mode from the optical disk without any problems, but whem I try to boot in multiuser mode it get all the way up to the part after is has finished launching all of the daemons and then stops. After that it waits a little while and displays a message telling me that the login window cannot find the display port, and then a few minutes after thar it gives me "midi has finished waiting on executable mach". After this it just keeps repeating that message at about 1 or 2 minute intervals. Does anyone have any clue as to what exactly is going on here??? The OD was built with only the system software, no docs or literature. All of the executables necessary to run the system are present. The disk has about 30MB free, so lack of space cannot be the problem. Thanks for any help or suggestions, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- The power of UNIX must prevail. The evil Microsoft must be stopped!! -- NeXTStep, the operating system of the future, today. #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mac refuses to acknowledge Seagate drive. It cCan't find root folder Date: 23 Oct 1994 19:07:15 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <38ec93$js4@news.csus.edu> References: <Cy3vrt.D3K@acsu.buffalo.edu> In article <Cy3vrt.D3K@acsu.buffalo.edu> jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) writes: >Hi. I am trying to connect an external scsi drive - a Seagate model ST4702N-to >a Mac(IIci) with no success. When I run the utility "Apple HD SC Setup" to >format it, I get the message : "Unable to locate a suitable drive connected to >the scsi port". Apple makes two kinds of Apple HD SC Setup--the one that ships with A/UX can format any drive, but the MacOS version is deliberately crippled. (Don't ask me why--it's a marketing thing.) Find any site carrying Info-Mac files. These exist all over the world, but here are a few to get you started: |daemon.ncsa.uiuc.edu 141.142.22.33 /Info-Mac 1/1 |ALL ftp gopher AppleShare AppleSearch |NCSA, Champaign, Illinois, USA | |mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu 128.174.201.12 /pub/info-mac 1/1 |ALL ftp |University of Illinois, Urbana, Illinois, USA |may add gopher support soon | |grind.isca.uiowa.edu 128.255.21.233 /mac/infomac 1/1 |ALL ftp gopher telnet |University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa, USA |macbinary; telnet access for kermit and zmodem download with search functions | |wuarchive.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4 /systems/mac/info-mac 1/1 |ALL ftp gopher fsp |Washington University, St. Louis, Missouri, USA | |ftp.uu.net 192.48.96.9 /archive/systems/mac/info-mac 1/1 |ALL ftp |UUNET Technologies, Falls Church, Virginia, USA Look in the disk/ directory for: apple-hd-sc-setup-731-patch.hqx (for pre-System 7.5 users) apple-hd-sc-setup-732-patch.hqx (for System 7.5 users) These *may* be able to help you out. If not, your best bet is some kind of commercial utility (I know, I know). BTW, If you have an earlier version of Apple HD SC Setup, you can find 7.3.1 on Apple's System Update 3.0 disk (it's also available separately by anonymous FTP from ftp.austin.apple.com as Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/Utilities.SW/ Apple.HD.SC.Setup.7.3.1/Apple.HD.SC.Setup.7.3.1.sea.hqx). > If I run the 'Norton Utilities' program, it sees the drive.It tells me >its scsi id. I hope you didn't buy NU just for that. :-) > I used a NeXTstation to format this drive with the Macintosh file >system, hoping that when attached to the Mac it would finally recognize it. >Well... it still doesn't . "Apple HD SC Setup" tells me the same thing and when >I ran again 'Norton Utilities' it says : "the root folder could't be >found" I don't think I'd trust NEXTSTEP to initialize Mac hard drives (unless NeXT licenses code from someone else--don't hold your breath). -=EPS=- ------- ST-4702N (94181-702) Wren 5 SCSI Power +=============================+ /---------\ =====P=W=A======|:SCSI:Cable:::::::::::::::::1|=| 0 0 0 0 |== _ +=============================+ +-5-G-G-12+ |o|x o o o o o(o) *-------1 *-------1 *-------1 +o+o o o o o o(o) +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ L_J 4 2 1 Terminator SIPS (see note below *) | --+-- | | | | | | | `-Reserved (some PWA's do not have these pins) | | | `---Parity check enable | | `-----Motor Start option enable | `---------Drive ID's, ID 0 (none) if only SCSI device `---------------Terminator power from Drive (vertical) Terminator power from Bus (lower horizontal) * Note: If you have #77701215k silk-screened near the 50-pin SCSI cable connector, the pin-1 for the 3 terminating resistors is away from the DC power connector. ST-4702N 94181-702/M WREN 5 FH UNFORMATTED CAPACITY (MB) ________________702 FORMATTED CAPACITY (xx SECTORS) (MB) _____601 AVERAGE SECTORS PER TRACK ________________50 ACTUATOR TYPE ____________________________VOICE COIL TRACKS ___________________________________23190 CYLINDERS ________________________________1546 HEADS ____________________________________15 DISCS ____________________________________8 MEDIA TYPE _______________________________THIN FILM RECORDING METHOD _________________________ZBR RLL (2,7) TRANSFER RATE (mbytes/sec) _______________1.5-2 SPINDLE SPEED (RPM) ______________________3,600 AVERAGE LATENCY (mSEC) ___________________8.33 BUFFER ___________________________________32 Kbyte Read Look-Ahead, Non-Adaptive, Single-Segmented Buffer INTERFACE ________________________________SCSI TPI (TRACKS PER INCH) ____________________1280 BPI (BITS PER INCH) ______________________26000 AVERAGE ACCESS (ms) ______________________16.5 SINGLE TRACK SEEK (ms) ___________________3 MAX FULL SEEK (ms) _______________________39 MTBF (power-on hours) ____________________100,000 POWER REQUIREMENTS: +12V START-UP (amps) _4.5 +12V TYPICAL (amps) __1.6 +5V START-UP (amps) __1.0 +5V TYPICAL (amps) ___0.7 TYPICAL (watts) ______21 MAXIMUM (watts) ______59 BUFFERED STEP PULSE RATE (micro sec) _____ WRITE PRECOMP (cyl) ______________________N/A REDUCED WRITE CURRENT (cyl) ______________N/A LANDING ZONE (cyl) _______________________AUTO PARK IBM AT DRIVE TYPE ________________________0 or NONE ZBR = Zone Bit Recording = Variable sectors per track Already low-level formatted at the factory. Seagate reserves the right to change, without notice, product offerings or specifications. (6/26/90)
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Advantages of Solaris with OpenStep over native NeXTSTEP ?? Date: 23 Oct 1994 14:47:37 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941023194654.757AACUF.malc@jeeves> > It seems that Solaris with OpenStep might be favorable simply > because Solaris allows one to use X natively as well as take > advantage of the OpenStep development environment. > > NeXT has a wonderful environment to work in, and I don't know much > about what solaris will be like, so I was wondering how you all > feel about the above statement... > It seems that with NEXTSTEP for SPARC might be preferable to Solaris simply because NEXTSTEP finally frees the users from that scourge of the habitable UI, namely X-Windows, Sun SPARC-stations are wonderful machines, free from the mixed blessings of conflicting Intel configurations, "so I was wondering how you all feel about the above statement..." :-) Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu (Duc T. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS on NeXT vs. other platforms? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 17:17:04 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <nguyen05-231094171704@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu> I have 2 main questions: 1. What are the differences between NS/Motorolla & NS/Intel (and whatever other ports in the works)? Are there any functionality differences? There must be performance differences... So which is the better hardware for NS? How does, say, a Pentium 90 compare to an 040/25 or 33? What are the set-backs to running NS on non-NeXT platforms? 2. Does it make sense to buy a NeXT now (vs. a Pentium, etc.)? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Duc Nguyen nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu I lied. I have a third, unrelated question: 3. What are the major NeXT publications? NeXTworld???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: glugauer@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Gordon B Lugauer) Subject: Looking for NeXT music info Message-ID: <1994Oct23.225112.22972@midway.uchicago.edu> Followup-To: poster Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: Covenant of the Inverted Circle, University of Chicago Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 22:51:12 GMT I have the opportunity to come across a used NeXT slab cheap from the lab I work for. I plan on adding it to my electronic studio comprising of three synths and a pc/ linux box with an scc-1 card which I use for realization of my own compositions. I've perused a few faqs, which have given me a bunch of ftp sites to look at, but I still have a few questions: The cds I have access to are nextstep 3.0, is there a way I can get the music kit software- I've heard that it is no longer distributed with that release. Most of the dates listing the ftp sites are rather old, are they still valid? Are there more sites? How can I hook up the NeXT via midi? What special hardware might I need, and where would be good places to look for it? Any advice from those who've use the NeXT would also be welcome. Thanks, -Gordon B. Lugauer gbl@uchicago.edu
From: paul@nextus.tus.primenet.com (Paul Tognato-Haddad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What's new in 3.3? Date: 21 Oct 1994 20:37:50 GMT Organization: Primenet Message-ID: <3898qv$79u@news.primenet.com> Howdy, So anyone care to do a quick review on the 3.3? New features, speed compared to 3.2, new and old bugs, and all the other fun stuff. See ya, -- Paul (NeXTmail preferred) # Paul R. Tognato-Haddad (paul@nextus.tus.primenet.com) [pault@primenet.com or pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: Where can I buy a FH external case with power supply? Message-ID: <Cy5tqy.5F6@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: na Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 04:28:09 GMT Hi. I need to get a full height case with power supply and scsi connectors for a hard-drive. If you know of a vendor that sells this kind of stuff please let me know. I am in Buffalo, NY. Around here one can get a half height (9.5*10.5*2.25) Plus fan,scsi and ps for $40 bucks. Is this price too high? Thanks for your response. Bye. Ze Tomas
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 24 Oct 1994 01:54:50 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <38fi7a$cfg@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online ---------------------------------------------------- A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ http://www.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- news://comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news://comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. news://comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news://comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news://comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news://comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news://comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news://comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news://comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news://comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. 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Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc From: nsayer@quack.kfu.com (Nick Sayer) Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Message-ID: <gopSjNo@quack.kfu.com> Sender: news@quack.kfu.com (0000-News(0000)) Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'. References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37uols$kse@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Date: 24 Oct 1994 06:57:48 UTC adler@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Bruce Adler [Contractor]) writes: >You're right, Solaris x86 only supports about 16 different SCSI HBAs, >and 17 different network adapters, and 56 different graphics adapters >and 22 different notebook display adapters. And not a single one of them PCMCIA. -- Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com> | "You might think so. I couldn't N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM | possibly comment." +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest' | -- Francis Urquhart URL: http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/ | ("House of Cards")
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Any good NeXTStep Magazines???? Date: 24 Oct 1994 08:01:53 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <38fplh$drg@core.symnet.net> References: <lngCxzEJ9.AI5@netcom.com> Lap Yan Larry Ng writes > Hello there, > > Anyone can tell me some good NeXTStep Magazines I can subscribe to? > > Anywhere I can find a list for those publishers' address and phone #s??? > > Please email me some info about it. Thanks in advance. > > Larry > Check out NeXTINLINE - you can find info on it at the StepWise URL site - http://digifix.digifix.com/ -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 24 Oct 1994 16:38:37 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> I just received this message that I thought I should forward to the group: > I received your email about the 3.3 Upgrade. The pricing for 3.3 > is $199 whether it is commercial or academic. The part numbers are > as follows: > N5659 3.3 for Intel Upgrade > N5683 3.3 for Motorola Upgrade > - there is no upgrade for the HP PA-RISC machine at this time > > Please call me at (415)-780-2958 if you have any questions or if > you would like to order. > Thank You > Robin Leckonby > Senior Account Representative > Western Region -- Paul M. Cardon Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young University
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Downloading tar.gz files via ftp in OmniWeb Date: 24 Oct 1994 16:10:29 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Distribution: world Message-ID: <38gm9l$sfb@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> The new version of OmniWeb seems to think that tar.gz files are text, and displays them in the view window as such after it downloads them via ftp. The older versions did not do this -- has anyone else noticed this, and is there a solution? I emailed to the creators weeks ago, but have not heard anything back. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS on NeXT vs. other platforms? Date: 24 Oct 1994 16:59:53 GMT Organization: IBM Rochester MN Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Distribution: world Message-ID: <38gp69$1ght@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> References: <nguyen05-231094171704@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu> In article <nguyen05-231094171704@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu>, nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu (Duc T. Nguyen) writes: |> I have 2 main questions: |> |> 1. What are the differences between NS/Motorolla & NS/Intel (and whatever |> other ports in the works)? Are there any functionality differences? There |> must be performance differences... So which is the better hardware for NS? |> How does, say, a Pentium 90 compare to an 040/25 or 33? What are the |> set-backs to running NS on non-NeXT platforms? To sum it up, there are no differences, between the NS/Moto or NS/FIP versions. Performance wise, naturally there are differences in hardware. The original NeXT hardware of course runs NS like a dream. Everything there is top rate! ( I have a cube in my office ) As you would expect tho, the 040 hardware is starting to show it's age when compared to say a Pentium or HP workstation. The problem with Pentium or 486 if you prefer, is you will probably end up banging on the hardware a bit to get the OS to run. There are companies that will sell you a fine box that runs NS, second you turn it on. Canon, Ecesys (sp?) etc are fine vendors. Also Subscribe to the homebrew mailing list. (Send me mail if you are interested in this route) There are a number of people who have build their own relitively inexpensive intel box to run NS. I can't speak for HP hardware. I have not even seen NS running on an HP. If you have the cash, this certainly might be an attractive option, as I understand there are few hardware configuration issues. However, there are fewer NS HP apps available. The number is growing and won't be an issue in the very short future. |> 2. Does it make sense to buy a NeXT now (vs. a Pentium, etc.)? I'd say if you can pick up original NeXT hardware now for a reasonable price (read less then you'd spend on a 486) *AND* you are comfortable with the idea that you are going to be orphaned in about one years time. Go for it. Otherwise, I'd go the Pentium or 486 route. Besides nothing wrong with the ability to boot to DOS to play games from time to time. ;-) |> I lied. I have a third, unrelated question: |> |> 3. What are the major NeXT publications? NeXTworld??? Pickup Next In Line. I have not seen it yet... however I understand it's a pretty good publication. -- #include <std-disclaimer.h> |o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o| |o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o| - Marvin Martian |o| |o| tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (work - No NeXTMail) |o| |o| TGall@eworld.com (home - Newton Mail) |o| |o| Coming Soon, NeXTMailable email address |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Subject: Re: Known FEATURES in 3.x Message-ID: <1994Oct24.163126.3376@afs.com> Sender: greg@afs.com Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. References: <386fs4$6h9@fermat.mayo.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 16:31:26 GMT In article <386fs4$6h9@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu writes: > > Also, here's something I keep expecting to work for some reason: > > I have Edit open next to Webster. I double click on a word in Edit, > > then (while Edit is still in the front, and without first bringing > > Webster to the front) click on Webster's define button. > > And it doesn't do what I want it to do. > > After a moment of confusion, I think "oh yeah," and double click on > > that word in Edit again, then hit command =. > > I like my way better. > > So would I, but I guess there would be the problem of the general case. > What if you have selections in 4 other windows (In Edit, or other Apps), > Does NeXTSTEP have the ability to understand from a separate application > space, "Get the selection from the last active window, and if none > there, then the one before that, and if none there..." To answer Geoff's question first, yes the Workspace does keep a stack of the order in which apps were last accessed. I don't know you'd get that list within an application, but Workspace does know, because it uses it to get the "next app to activate" when you quit an application. Here's what is wrong with the original (unattributed) idea: Making a selection by double-clicking does not put anything on the pasteboard. There's nothing to "go and look for," even if you knew the app order. Services force the selection to be written to the pasteboard, even if the user hasn't performed an explicit cut/copy operation. That's what makes Cmd-= work. At a practical level, the original idea flies in the face of normal Webster operation. The "Define" button means "look up whatever is in the TextField next to me." How would you disambiguate that? Only a copy/paste works, and that's more work than Cmd-=. Sorry. As Tom Bodett says on Animaniacs, "bad idea." -- Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 24 Oct 1994 14:29:49 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <38guet$140@anshar.shadow.net> References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Paul Cardon (pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu) wrote: : I just received this message that I thought I should forward to the group: : > I received your email about the 3.3 Upgrade. The pricing for 3.3 : > is $199 whether it is commercial or academic. The part numbers are : > as follows: : > N5659 3.3 for Intel Upgrade : > N5683 3.3 for Motorola Upgrade Yikes! $199 for the academic as well! Looks like I'll be sticking with 3.2 until 4.0 comes out next year. - Jay NeXTmail...Yes!
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 24 Oct 1994 18:34:01 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> In article <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) writes: >I just received this message that I thought I should forward to the group: >> The pricing for 3.3 >> is $199 whether it is commercial or academic. The part numbers are >> as follows: >> N5659 3.3 for Intel Upgrade >> N5683 3.3 for Motorola Upgrade >> - there is no upgrade for the HP PA-RISC machine at this time To add to this, NeXT currently has no plan to offer discount to those who have purchased (will purchase) NS3.2 just prior to the release of 3.3 (e.g., no such thing as free or discounted upgrade deal if you bought 3.2 license within 6 months of the release date of 3.3). Personally, I think there should be some deal like this. Also, the $199 upgrade price represents 2/3 of the academic bundle price, just for the user version. Seems a bit high. But, at least, they called me promptly back to an inquiry. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Newsgroups: alt.fan.mts,alt.travel.road-trip,comp.client-server,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.telecom.tech,comp.groupware,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.multi-media,comp.org.acm,comp.org.decus,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.isoc.interest,comp.org.issnnet,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.unixware,mi.misc,mi.sun,rec.travel.misc,sci.crypt,umich.networking,umich.org.acm,umich.unix,umich.unix.admin Subject: CFP: Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing Date: 24 Oct 1994 19:23:00 GMT Organization: University of Michigan CITI Distribution: world Message-ID: <38h1il$35l@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Announcement and Call for Papers Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing April 10-11, 1995 Ann Arbor, Michigan Sponsored by the USENIX Association The Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location- Independent Computing will provide a major opportunity for researchers and practitioners in this rapidly growing field to exchange ideas and present results of their work. The First Mobile Computing Symposium, held in Boston in August 1993, generated a great deal of interest from the UNIX and mobile computing communities. Since that time, mobile computing has become an even hotter topic, with the size, cost, and power requirements of the equipment going down. The FCC has announced a plan to auction radio spectrum for use of mobile devices, and the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is in the process of standardizing protocols for mobile TCP/IP, including roaming capabilities. Mobile computers are the fastest growing segment of the PC market, airlines are scrambling to provide network connectivity on board, and terminal rooms at computer conferences routinely provide network taps for users who bring their own computers. The 1995 symposium is a single-track symposium offering two days of refereed paper presentations. The symposium will also include panels, Work-in-Progress reports, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions, and a Keynote speaker. Formally reviewed papers, presented during the symposium, will be published in the symposium proceedings. Proceedings will be distributed free to attendees and later will be available for purchase from the USENIX Association. DATES FOR REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS Extended abstracts due: January 2, 1995 Notification to authors: January 23, 1995 Camera-ready final papers due: March 6, 1995 PROGRAM COMMITTEE Program Chair: Jim Rees University of Michigan Jim.Rees@umich.edu Norman Adams Xerox PARC norman@parc.xerox.com Dan Duchamp Columbia University djd@cs.columbia.edu Dan Geer OpenVision Technologies, Inc. geer@cam.ov.com Phil Karn Qualcomm karn@qualcomm.com Jim Kempf Sun Microsystems james.kempf@eng.sun.com Jay Kistler Digital Equipment Corporation jjk@src.dec.com SYMPOSIUM TOPICS We seek original and innovative papers about current developments in mobile and location-independent computing. We are especially interested in reports on practical experiences with mobile systems. The Mobile Computing Symposium will address a wide range of issues and ongoing developments, including, but not limited to: - Applications for the mobile user - Navigation and positioning (GPS, etc.) - Security, especially in wireless environments or when away from home - Caching and disconnected operation of applications and file systems - Communications Protocols, including mobile TCP/IP - Wireless communications (CDPD, CDMA, GSM, Ardis/RAM, cellular modem, etc.), and how they relate to and interact with operating systems and applications - Portable and mobile computing equipment SUBMISSIONS OF REFEREED PAPERS Submission of an extended abstract of 1500-2500 words (9000- 15000 bytes or 3-5 pages) is recommended. Shorter abstracts run a significant risk of rejection as there will be little on which the program committee can base an opinion. Extended abstracts should be sent to Jim Rees at the address below. For administrative reasons (not blind reviewing), each submission should include a separate page or e-mail message giving the title of the paper, the names and affiliations of the authors, and the name of the author who will act as the contact person for the program committee. For the contact person, also include a daytime telephone number, postal address, e-mail address and FAX number if possible. For questions about refereed paper submissions and other program concerns, contact the Program Chair; contact information follows. If you would like to receive detailed guidelines for submission and examples of extended abstracts, you may telephone the USENIX Association office at +1 510 528- 8649 or email to mobile2authors@usenix.org. USENIX symposia, like most symposia and journals, require that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976. WHERE TO SUBMIT Jim Rees CITI University of Michigan 519 West William Ann Arbor, Michigan USA 48103 Internet: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Telephone: +1 313 763-4174 Fax: +1 313 763-4434 FOR REGISTRATION INFORMATION Materials containing all details of the technical and tutorial programs, registration fees and forms, and hotel information will be available beginning in February 1995. If you wish to receive the registration materials, please contact USENIX at: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert Street, Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 Telephone: +1 714 588-8649 Fax: +1 714 588-9706 Internet: conference@usenix.org
From: sinan@u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 24 Oct 1994 19:40:34 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Distribution: inet Message-ID: <38h2ji$fck@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <383fu3$i58@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <3891kt$f19@anshar.shadow.net> In article <3891kt$f19@anshar.shadow.net>, Jay Fuchs <jjfox@anshar.shadow.net> wrote: >Daniel Donovan (dgd@nantucket.Eng.Sun.COM) wrote: >: To receive a current list of the hardware that we've tested or has been >: self-certified with 2.4, send email to either: > >: x86hcl@cypress.west.sun.com (ASCI version) >: x86hcl.ps@cypress.west.sun.com (PostScript version) > >: This list expands with each new driver/video update (roughly every 6 weeks). > >Thanks for the info. I'm probably going to wait for Solaris 2.5 to be >released. BTW: How many apps have made it across from Solaris SPARC to Waiting for Solaris 2.5 may be a good idea if you have a lot of money to burn. The current deal of $495 will get you Solaris 2.4 for x86, ProWorks with C and C++ and TeamWare, and Software Developers kit (with motif developement stuff.) This package in regular prices cost upwards of $3000. So if you bought the thing now and put it on a shelf and upgraded to Solaris 2.5 when it comes out, you'd be about $2400 ahead. Not to shabby IF you will buy 2.5 in the future. Another possibility is of course to buy OS/2 Warp now and buy Solaris 2.5 when it comes out. (If you do not want the developement S/W then this is the way to go.....) Sinan >Intel - WordPerfect, Frame, Virtuoso, Illustrator, Photoshop? Any? >I contacted a number of Unix software resellers (ie. UniDirect), and was >told there were almost no apps available. > >- Jay >
From: sinan@u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 24 Oct 1994 19:45:57 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Distribution: inet Message-ID: <38h2tl$fdn@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <gopSjNo@quack.kfu.com> In article <gopSjNo@quack.kfu.com>, Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com> wrote: >adler@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Bruce Adler [Contractor]) writes: > >>You're right, Solaris x86 only supports about 16 different SCSI HBAs, >>and 17 different network adapters, and 56 different graphics adapters >>and 22 different notebook display adapters. > >And not a single one of them PCMCIA. I was just looking thru SunExpert and they showed some vendors that ship Solaris x86 machines and they do support PCMCIA. However , in my opinion at this time, it might be better to put Solaris 2.4 on your "bigger" machine, and put OS/2 Warp on your portable. The just network the 2 together. That way you can run your Windows application ( as long as Solaris 2.4 supports it) on Wabi on one machine and on Warp on the other. BTW did anyine read in the latest InfoWorld that IBM will include Windows 3.x sources in the next version of OS/2 due to come out before the end of the year? Sinan > >-- >Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com> | "You might think so. I couldn't >N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM | possibly comment." >+1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest' | -- Francis Urquhart >URL: http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/ | ("House of Cards")
From: howar016@mc.duke.edu (Denise Howard Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sampo Koponen please read Date: 24 Oct 1994 21:00:57 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <38h7a9$hee@news.duke.edu> Sampo-- My e-mail to you keeps bouncing as follows: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 22:56:24 +0200 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@hit.fi> Subject: Returned mail: Can't create output: Error 0 To: <howar016@bullnext.mc.duke.edu> The original message was received at Mon, 24 Oct 1994 22:56:20 +0200 from bullnext.mc.duke.edu [152.3.78.23] ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- /home/iy23093/koponen/IncomingMail (unrecoverable error) (expanded from: <koponen@hit.fi>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 /home/iy23093/koponen/.forward: line 2: /home/iy23093/koponen/IncomingMail... Can't create output: Error 0 Please find out what's wrong at your end so I can e-mail you the information you need! Denise -- Denise Howard Blakeley | PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS. Duke Med Center Info Systems | It was formerly blake015@mc.duke.edu. Durham, NC | My last name is changing to simply (919) 286-6468 W | Howard. howar016@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Followup-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 24 Oct 1994 18:00:32 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <38haq0$7oc@anshar.shadow.net> References: <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <383fu3$i58@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <3891kt$f19@anshar.shadow.net> <38h2ji$fck@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Sinan Karasu (sinan@u.washington.edu) wrote: : Waiting for Solaris 2.5 may be a good idea if you have a lot of money to : burn. The current deal of $495 will get you Solaris 2.4 for x86, ProWorks : with C and C++ and TeamWare, and Software Developers kit (with : motif developement stuff.) This package in regular prices cost : upwards of $3000. So if you bought the thing now and put it on a shelf : and upgraded to Solaris 2.5 when it comes out, you'd be about : $2400 ahead. Not to shabby IF you will buy 2.5 in the future. : Another possibility is of course to buy OS/2 Warp now and buy : Solaris 2.5 when it comes out. (If you do not want the developement : S/W then this is the way to go.....) I have no interest whatsoever in Solaris development tools. My interest lies in the OpenStep implementation that will be a part of 2.5. As for development, Sun is currently telling those interested in developing for OpenStep/Solaris to buy NeXTSTEP. Once Solaris 2.5 comes out, I would be interested in switching if (and only if) current Solaris/SPARC applications were ported to Solaris/Intel. That way I would have access to OpenStep, and industry-standard apps like WP, Frame, Photoshop, etc. Otherwise, I'm sticking with NeXTSTEP. - Jay
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 24 Oct 1994 22:28:37 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <38hcel$52u@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <38guet$140@anshar.shadow.net> In article <38guet$140@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: :Paul Cardon (pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu) wrote: :: I just received this message that I thought I should forward to the group: : :: > I received your email about the 3.3 Upgrade. The pricing for 3.3 :: > is $199 whether it is commercial or academic. The part numbers are :: > as follows: :: > N5659 3.3 for Intel Upgrade :: > N5683 3.3 for Motorola Upgrade : :Yikes! $199 for the academic as well! Looks like I'll be sticking with :3.2 until 4.0 comes out next year. Well, if you order the upgrade before the shipping date of December 15, you get a free copy of NEXTIME. It also depends on how long you want to wait for a new Mail.app, multi-cast support, improved administration tools, etc. -- Paul M. Cardon Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 23:11:55 GMT Paul Cardon (pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu) wrote: : I just received this message that I thought I should forward to the group: : > I received your email about the 3.3 Upgrade. The pricing for 3.3 : > is $199 whether it is commercial or academic. The part numbers are : > as follows: : > N5659 3.3 for Intel Upgrade : > N5683 3.3 for Motorola Upgrade : > - there is no upgrade for the HP PA-RISC machine at this time : > : > Please call me at (415)-780-2958 if you have any questions or if : > you would like to order. : > Thank You : > Robin Leckonby : > Senior Account Representative : > Western Region : I think this pretty much is the funeral dirge for NeXTStep in the general student/consumer market. Computer savvy friends who are shopping around for their next OS have told me that they would be willing to pay a premium for NS if it's a big improvement over the others, but would not be willing to pay "Big bucks" regardless of how good it is. I think $200 for a MINOR upgrade constitutes big bucks. Does this mean that NeXT is going to ask everyone to pony up $1000-$2000 to get to 4.0? If so, have they considered how many small developers they will shake loose in the process. They could probably pillage their giant corporate customers with this pricing scheme for a while, but eventually won't Chrysler and Andersen Consulting balk at shelling out this much money per seat, when they could get almost the same functionality in OS/2 or Win NT for a fraction of the cost? I just ordered OS/2 3.0 Warp and the whole enchilada only cost me $49. Included in that price are drivers for zillions of devices, including PCI SCSI adapters that use the NCR chipset, so I don't have to pay extra for third party drivers. In the past, OS/2 upgrade prices have been an order of magnitude lower than the just anounced NS 3.3 upgrade price. What is NeXT counting on? Has Ross Perot told Steve that he wants his money back, so now Steve has to suck hard on his customers? I wish NeXT had publicly placed stock so I could set up a long term short position. Anyone have Ross Perots e-mail address? Joe Panico jpancio@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <1994Oct24.234716.903@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: uchicago strn fanclub References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 23:47:16 GMT In article <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu>, Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> wrote: >To add to this, NeXT currently has no plan to offer discount to >those who have purchased (will purchase) NS3.2 just prior to the >release of 3.3 (e.g., no such thing as free or discounted upgrade >deal if you bought 3.2 license within 6 months of the release date >of 3.3). > >Personally, I think there should be some deal like this. >Also, the $199 upgrade price represents 2/3 of the academic >bundle price, just for the user version. Seems a bit high. But, at >least, they called me promptly back to an inquiry. Sheesh. I guess it is a good thing that I decided to wait for 3.3 to come out before buying NS/Fip. (I'm stuck with Linux now.. ugh). I hope that they can be convinced to change their policy for the release of 4.0. I hate waiting for 3.3 to come out. -- E. Larry Lidz -- ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu :: No NeXTMail. Time and tide melts the snowman. :: For now. --
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.lang.postscript,sfnet.atk.mac,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Macintosh Notator and PostScript files from it Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps,sfnet.atk.mac Date: 25 Oct 1994 01:30:58 +0200 Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland Sender: otto@network.cc.jyu.fi Message-ID: <OTTO.94Oct25013054@tukki.jyu.fi> A good friend of mine is a composer, and he recently bought a program called Notator for his Macintosh. He asked can I print stuff from his computer on my NeXTstation and its laser printer if he brings in a PostScript file on diskette? As I'd done stuff like this before for other friends who create music (with different programs though), I said sure, no problem. I have the Sonata PS font on my NeXT system and anyway, PS files should actually have the uncommon fonts they require included. When we tried printing the PS files he had, the results were odd: the first page of the printout always came out right, but after that we randomly got individual lines of the notes where all the actual notes and other symbols would turn into little dots (each PS file printed out the same every time). Occasionally, a page would happen to be all right, but I assume this was just luck. We also tried the macps program (which we really shouldn't need with the newer LaserPrep systems), but printing through it didn't affect anything. Anyone have an idea what's happening? A bug in Notator when creating PostScript files? Please obey the followup-to header to narrow this down. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 41 613 847, BBS: +358 41 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */ /* Mail: Cygn.k.7 E 46/FIN-40100 Jyvaskyla/Finland, ICBM: 62.14N 25.44E */ /* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
From: sinan@u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 25 Oct 1994 01:36:06 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Distribution: inet Message-ID: <38hne6$j6k@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <3891kt$f19@anshar.shadow.net> <38h2ji$fck@nntp1.u.washington.edu> <38haq0$7oc@anshar.shadow.net> In article <38haq0$7oc@anshar.shadow.net>, Jay Fuchs <jjfox@anshar.shadow.net> wrote: >Sinan Karasu (sinan@u.washington.edu) wrote: >I have no interest whatsoever in Solaris development tools. My interest >lies in the OpenStep implementation that will be a part of 2.5. As for >development, Sun is currently telling those interested in developing for >OpenStep/Solaris to buy NeXTSTEP. Once Solaris 2.5 comes out, I would be >interested in switching if (and only if) current Solaris/SPARC >applications were ported to Solaris/Intel. That way I would have access >to OpenStep, and industry-standard apps like WP, Frame, Photoshop, etc. >Otherwise, I'm sticking with NeXTSTEP. Good choice. If I had a Intel machine, I would have gone the same route. I came very close to buying a used NeXT box on the net abou 8 months ago. I still think I should have, insetad I bought a Mac 840AV (to go with my 2 SparcStations at home.... :-)) Sinan > >- Jay >
From: drnek@river.it.gvsu.edu (Drnek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: can you change colors in terminal.app Date: 25 Oct 1994 03:00:18 GMT Organization: gvsu Distribution: world Message-ID: <38hsc2$cu6@news.it.gvsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: changing the color in Terminal. Summary: Followup-To: Distribution: world Organization: gvsu Keywords: Is there a way to set the background color for the Terminal.app? I would like to chnage the background color to black and the color of the letters to white. I would also like to be able to change the picture of my recycler. Is this possible? Also there were some cool quotes in here a while ago ething about making more money programing for windwows but retaining some self respect. could someone mail that to me? thanks
From: bennett@cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 24 Oct 1994 22:08:06 -0500 Organization: Northern Illinois University Message-ID: <38hsqm$qhj@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com> In article <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com>, Joe Panico <jpanico@netcom.com> wrote: >Paul Cardon (pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu) wrote: >: I just received this message that I thought I should forward to the group: > >: > I received your email about the 3.3 Upgrade. The pricing for 3.3 >: > is $199 whether it is commercial or academic. The part numbers are >: > as follows: >: > N5659 3.3 for Intel Upgrade >: > N5683 3.3 for Motorola Upgrade >: > - there is no upgrade for the HP PA-RISC machine at this time >: > >: > Please call me at (415)-780-2958 if you have any questions or if >: > you would like to order. >: > Thank You >: > Robin Leckonby >: > Senior Account Representative >: > Western Region >: > >I think this pretty much is the funeral dirge for NeXTStep in the general >student/consumer market. Computer savvy friends who are shopping around >for their next OS have told me that they would be willing to pay a premium >for NS if it's a big improvement over the others, but would not be willing >to pay "Big bucks" regardless of how good it is. I think $200 for a MINOR >upgrade constitutes big bucks. Does this mean that NeXT is going to ask >everyone to pony up $1000-$2000 to get to 4.0? If so, have they considered Take a big swig out of your bottle and calm down. The upgrade price is quite consistent with all of NeXT's earlier upgrade prices, even between 1.0a and 2.0 and between 2.[12] and 3.0, and I'd expect something similar for the 4.0 upgrade when it comes. Cut down on the caffeine. You'll live easier and probably longer. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG Systems Programming Computer Center Northern Illinois University DeKalb, Illinois 60115 ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett@netmgr.cso.niu.edu bennett@cs.niu.edu * * BITNET: A01SJB1@NIU * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "The jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in * * controversy."--John Jay, First Chief Justice, U.S. Supreme Court * * in Georgia vs. Brailsford, 1794 * **********************************************************************
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 24 Oct 1994 23:04:37 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <38hsk5$ged@anshar.shadow.net> References: <38guet$140@anshar.shadow.net> <38hcel$52u@hamblin.math.byu.edu> Paul Cardon (pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu) wrote: : Well, if you order the upgrade before the shipping date of December 15, you get : a free copy of NEXTIME. No bargain. NeXT was handing out those NeXTIME CDs for $20. - Jay
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 24 Oct 1994 23:33:11 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <38hu9n$hae@anshar.shadow.net> References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com> Joe Panico (jpanico@netcom.com) wrote: : I think this pretty much is the funeral dirge for NeXTStep in the general : student/consumer market. It might be enough to send me packing. I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude. It all depends on when NeXT ships 4.0. 3.3 is a relatively minor update. The only thing I'll sorely miss is the Adaptec 2940 driver (anyone want to buy an unused 2940?). : I just ordered OS/2 3.0 Warp and the whole enchilada only cost me $49. With the rebate in OS/2 for Windows, I paid less than $40. But OS/2 isn't going to replace NeXTSTEP on my desktop anytime soon. Let's face it - there are almost no native OS/2 apps. If I want to run Windows apps, I'll get Windows NT. I'll use OS/2 for it's excellent Boot Manager, and included SLIP connectivity. Windows NT ($120 edu) I'll use for the unparalleled Microsoft Office, and for the new Photoshop 3.0. - Jay
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q]: Recommend Fax Solutions Date: 21 Oct 1994 20:00:59 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <3896lr$226@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <3877iv$cvi@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <3877iv$cvi@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) writes: |>In article <1994Oct17.055523.9927@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> |>writes: |>> What are people choosing as a faz solution for todays NEXTSTEP machine?? |>> Intel and/or motorola? |>> |>NXFax from B&W software. A classic NeXT app, does its job with zero |>hassle and works every time. The company is as reliable as its |>product, they've been great to deal with (gave me very expert help in |>sorting out how to make NXFax and PNI slip live happily together). |>-------------------------------------------- |>Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. |>gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) Hi, Would you care to write a few lines on the problems with getting NXFax and PNI to work together??? I m trying to get it to work, but get some strange errors, and I m kind of stuck.... Thanks best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief DANNUG NEWS % DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 25 Oct 1994 04:40:10 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <38i27a$bc0@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <38hu9n$hae@anshar.shadow.net> In article <38hu9n$hae@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: :Joe Panico (jpanico@netcom.com) wrote: :: I think this pretty much is the funeral dirge for NeXTStep in the general :: student/consumer market. : :It might be enough to send me packing. I'm taking a wait-and-see :attitude. It all depends on when NeXT ships 4.0. 3.3 is a relatively :minor update. The only thing I'll sorely miss is the Adaptec 2940 driver :(anyone want to buy an unused 2940?). : :: I just ordered OS/2 3.0 Warp and the whole enchilada only cost me $49. : :With the rebate in OS/2 for Windows, I paid less than $40. But OS/2 isn't :going to replace NeXTSTEP on my desktop anytime soon. Let's face it - :there are almost no native OS/2 apps. If I want to run Windows apps, I'll :get Windows NT. I'll use OS/2 for it's excellent Boot Manager, and included :SLIP connectivity. Windows NT ($120 edu) I'll use for the unparalleled :Microsoft Office, and for the new Photoshop 3.0. Hey, this isn't an insignificant little upgrade like some of the minor releases in the past have been. There are significant improvements to NetInfo, the system administration and user tools, and the networking software at the kernel level. NEXTSTEP will perform better, and will be more reliable as a result of these improvements. I think it is worth the $200. Hey, think about the break edu users are already getting off of the retail price. Do you want NeXT to give it away? Sounds like students here at BYU whining about $50 tuition increases. They get the same quality education as many other large private universities, but for a very small fraction of the price (just over $1100 for what would cost at least $10000 elsewhere). -- Paul M. Cardon Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young University
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: can you change colors in terminal.app Date: 25 Oct 1994 04:52:04 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Distribution: world Message-ID: <38i2tk$bfi@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <38hsc2$cu6@news.it.gvsu.edu> In article <38hsc2$cu6@news.it.gvsu.edu> writes: :Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc :Subject: changing the color in Terminal. :Summary: :Followup-To: :Distribution: world :Organization: gvsu :Keywords: : :Is there a way to set the background color for the Terminal.app? I would like :to chnage the background color to black and the color of the letters to white. This is possible in 3.3 or now with Stuart.app. :I would also like to be able to change the picture of my recycler. : :Is this possible? Yes. Find Workspace.app in /usr/lib/NextStep and open the app-wrapper. Inside of this app you will find another WM.app. Open this app-wrapper also. Inside this app you will find 6 tiff files that being with the word trash. These are the icons for the dormant and animated recycler. Replace them with the ones you want. :Also there were some cool quotes in here a while ago ething about making :more money programing for windwows but retaining some self respect. could :someone mail that to me? thanks Can't help you on that one! :-) -- Paul M. Cardon Technical Editor - System Administration - NEXT IN LINE Magazine President of Provo OpenStep-NEXTSTEP User and Developer Group (PoNG) NEXTSTEP and HP System Manager - Math Department - Brigham Young University
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What's new in 3.3? Date: 24 Oct 1994 15:49:22 -0500 Organization: Proxima, Inc. Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <px9410242049.AA18076@pine.proxima.com> In article <3898qv$79u@news.primenet.com> you wrote: # Howdy, # So anyone care to do a quick review on the 3.3? New features, speed # compared to 3.2, new and old bugs, and all the other fun stuff. Paul - hopefully noone will respond to this. I say that not to be belligerent, but simply because anyone with 3.3 has accepted a non-disclosure agreement with NeXT which strictly forbids this. That aside, 3.3 looks very nice, and will be worth the wait. -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Director, Network Services McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
From: jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Advantages of Solaris with OpenStep over native NeXTSTEP ?? Date: 25 Oct 1994 07:09:15 GMT Organization: Legent Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <38iaur$4v@booch.legent.com> References: <941023194654.757AACUF.malc@jeeves> In article <941023194654.757AACUF.malc@jeeves> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) writes: > > It seems that Solaris with OpenStep might be favorable simply > > because Solaris allows one to use X natively as well as take > > advantage of the OpenStep development environment. > > > > NeXT has a wonderful environment to work in, and I don't know much > > about what solaris will be like, so I was wondering how you all > > feel about the above statement... > > > It seems that with NEXTSTEP for SPARC might be preferable to Solaris simply > because NEXTSTEP finally frees the users from that scourge of the habitable > UI, namely X-Windows, > > Sun SPARC-stations are wonderful machines, free from the mixed blessings of > conflicting Intel configurations, "so I was wondering how you all feel about > the above statement..." [munch] > mmalcolm. What makes OpenStep a win in my book is that you'll be able to run apps that look like NeXT apps, but you won't be starved for device drivers the way that NS/Intel is. When someone makes a card for hardware X, then they usually provide a driver for the most common OS on that platform. Regrettably, that means that you can find a Windoze driver for almost any Intel machine add-in, but only a few enlightened manufacturers are taking the trouble to provide a NEXTSTEP driver. As for the intrusion of X, I really don't see that as a problem. Our apps will still implement View subclasses (well, NSView, but why quibble?), and they will all still have their own Postscript contexts, etc. There's nothing to force an OpenStep app to look or feel like a Motif or OpenWindows app. -- _____________________________________________________________ John C. Randolph (408) 730-3500 jcr@sv.legent.com Legent Corporation 710 LakeWay Drive, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 Opinions available for your use at a very reasonable royalty!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 06:08:46 GMT In article <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes: [ ] >Also, the $199 upgrade price represents 2/3 of the academic >bundle price, just for the user version. Seems a bit high. But, at >least, they called me promptly back to an inquiry. The upgrade cost is yet another barrier to NS in the academic world. The future is indeed bleak. To cut off an OS from the future is to doom it. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com> <38hsqm$qhj@mp.cs.niu.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 06:32:48 GMT In article <38hsqm$qhj@mp.cs.niu.edu> bennett@cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) writes: [ ] >>I think this pretty much is the funeral dirge for NeXTStep in the general >>student/consumer market. Computer savvy friends who are shopping around >>for their next OS have told me that they would be willing to pay a premium >>for NS if it's a big improvement over the others, but would not be willing >>to pay "Big bucks" regardless of how good it is. I think $200 for a MINOR >>upgrade constitutes big bucks. Does this mean that NeXT is going to ask >>everyone to pony up $1000-$2000 to get to 4.0? If so, have they considered > > Take a big swig out of your bottle and calm down. The upgrade >price is quite consistent with all of NeXT's earlier upgrade prices, >even between 1.0a and 2.0 and between 2.[12] and 3.0, and I'd expect >something similar for the 4.0 upgrade when it comes. Cut down on >the caffeine. You'll live easier and probably longer. I do think that this is a very bleak sign for NS in academic circles. The upgrade price is not consistent. In the past, one received the whole OS and not just the user version. This may very well be the last straw. Let the MCA types play for a few years. NS will die without new academic, especially student, blood. This is indeed a sad time for those of us who hoped that the MCA kick was simply a means to an end. With no bundled Mathematica, ridiculous academic upgrade pricing, and other viable OS's coming on the market, one has to wonder why NeXT could even think they would get away with this. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfenney@netcom.com (Robert J. Fenney) Subject: Re: Newton connection kit Message-ID: <rfenney-251094020945@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration) Organization: FenTek References: <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <1994Oct12.172237.674@mjw.octagon.de> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 09:03:35 GMT In article <1994Oct12.172237.674@mjw.octagon.de>, mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr) wrote: > In article <37eh4l$hsj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu > (Steve Weintz) writes: > > Count me in, too. > > Me too!! > -- > Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de > -- Me three!!!!!! Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rsb2b@avery.med.Virginia.EDU (Ralph S. Buckley) Subject: prev NeXT user using MAC... Message-ID: <Cy87Jn.sn@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: uva Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 11:21:23 GMT I am a prior NeXT user who had to switch over to mac recently. I am overall happy with the mac (PPC 7100), but miss a few things about the NeXTstep environment and was wondering if there were any mac/next users who knew of any extensions or desktop accessories on the mac to do the following: 1. I like the browser for file searching much more than system 7's file listing. Is there anything on the market like it? 2. I like being able to hide apps by pressing command h instead of going up to the top right on the mac and hiding the app. Any help would be most ap[preciated. e-mail me at rbuckley@virginia.edu --Ralph -- ______________________ Ralph Buckley University of Virginia
From: pgeiss@dali.uphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Peter Geissler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cannot read links on CDs Date: 25 Oct 1994 13:07:52 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <38ivv8$qo@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Hi everyone, I tried to created a CD from a harddisk with a nextstep file system and had some strange problems : I created an image file with the "makeisofs" program on a black next station, then I burned to a CD. This CD could only be read by a NeXT machine. Neiter a Linux nor a SGI system could read it correctly. This would be ok if the NeXT could read links on the CD. Unfortunately, links just do not appear on the CD. I tried to create the image file again on a Linux system. Then, the CD could be read by other systems, but the links are still not their if read by a NeXT. (Linux can read them correctly). Does anybody has an idea whats going wrong ? Or is their a program for creating CD image files on a NeXT ? Thanx in advance for any help Peter Geissler pgeiss@dali.uphys.uni-heidelberg.de ------------------------------------ NeXT Mail Welcome ------------------------------------
From: schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 25 Oct 1994 13:38:57 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <38j1ph$ajn@news.tamu.edu> References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com> <38hsqm$qhj@mp.cs.niu.edu> Scott Bennett (bennett@cs.niu.edu) wrote: : In article <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com>, : > : >I think this pretty much is the funeral dirge for NeXTStep in the general : >student/consumer market. Computer savvy friends who are shopping around : >for their next OS have told me that they would be willing to pay a premium : >for NS if it's a big improvement over the others, but would not be willing : >to pay "Big bucks" regardless of how good it is. I think $200 for a MINOR : >upgrade constitutes big bucks. Does this mean that NeXT is going to ask : >everyone to pony up $1000-$2000 to get to 4.0? If so, have they considered : Take a big swig out of your bottle and calm down. The upgrade : price is quite consistent with all of NeXT's earlier upgrade prices, : even between 1.0a and 2.0 and between 2.[12] and 3.0, and I'd expect : something similar for the 4.0 upgrade when it comes. Cut down on : the caffeine. You'll live easier and probably longer. I beg to differ. The edu upgrade from 3.0 to 3.1 with a free upgrade to 3.2 was around $60, the dev upgrade was ~$100. The total package, user + developer, was with shipping, was less than $200. Now they are charging $200 just for a user upgrade (edu)? I bought my Nextstation more than three years ago. I've always kept up with the edu upgrades, I've owned Nextstep for quite a while. Now with this upgrade prize is seems like "Doesn't matter that you've owned Nextstep for several years, you want the maintenance upgrade, buy the whole thing again.(regular edu prize for user + developer=$299). Considering that the current package includes the developer package, the $199 upgrade for USER seems to be very steep. For edu it is a better deal to just buy the package again and forget that you owned and paid for all that previous software! a very disappointed, Hanspeter Schaub schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu D C C C more .
From: mueller@anke (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Database Poet on NeXT Date: 25 Oct 1994 14:58:23 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <38j6ef$ofk@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hallo, I have some Poet/NeXT problems, maybe somebody knows a solution: 1) We are running a Poet-Server on an NeXTStep/Intel-Host and have separate client-Poet-libraries for Intel and Motorola. Does someone know how to create a fat Poet-library, so that I do not have to remove/add the Poet-library from/to ProjectBuilder everytime when I change the architecture? 2) Does someone know what to do against the following Compiler warnings of the type .. /LocalApps/POET21.NeXT.m68k/inc/ptconst.hxx:18: warning: `PtOPEN_SHARED_READ' defined but not used /LocalApps/POET21.NeXT.m68k/inc/ptconst.hxx:19: warning: `PtOPEN_SHARED_RW' defined but not used /LocalApps/POET21.NeXT.m68k/inc/ptconst.hxx:33: warning: `PtNAND' defined but not used .. which occur, when I compile C++ files which include <poet.h> through ProjectBuilder (with the -ObjC++ option)? ( I do not want to switch them of just by -w ...) They do not occur, when I compile the same C++ files with cc++ (extern from ProjectBuilder ...) Any pointers are welcome Robert -- Robert M ller Arbeitsgruppe TheMPO Institut f r Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation Universit tskliniken Mainz 55101 Mainz
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 25 Oct 1994 11:58:46 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <38j9vm$1d7@anshar.shadow.net> References: <38hu9n$hae@anshar.shadow.net> <38i27a$bc0@hamblin.math.byu.edu> : In article <38hu9n$hae@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) : writes: : Hey, this isn't an insignificant little upgrade like some of the minor releases : in the past have been. There are significant improvements to NetInfo, the : system administration,... and the networking software at the kernel : level. IMHO, of little interest to the individual user. How many students are maintaining a NetInfo network in their dorm rooms? The reason I was looking forward to 3.3 was its improved Intel support (and MIME email would be nice). : NEXTSTEP will perform better, and will be more reliable as a result of : these improvements. I think it is worth the $200. Hey, think about the break : edu users are already getting off of the retail price. Do you want NeXT to : give it away? Sounds like students here at BYU whining about $50 tuition : increases. They get the same quality education as many other large private : universities, but for a very small fraction of the price (just over $1100 for : what would cost at least $10000 elsewhere). So should I take out another student loan to pay for it? Especially when I just shelled out $300 for 3.2 two months ago? It's a cost/benefit ratio. There aren't enough benefits in 3.3 to justify that kind of an upgrade cost, especially considering the origional purchase price. It's just dead wrong. Here's my theory: NeXT is putting all of it's efforts behind MCCA, and sees students and other individual users as a useless distraction. Charge 'em $199 for a minor upgrade, and lose 'em forever. Just a thought. - Jay
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 25 Oct 1994 16:30:20 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <38jbqs$fap@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <38j1ph$ajn@news.tamu.edu> [ many upgrade pricing complaints deleted ... ] If you don't like the upgrade price, then the solution is simple: don't upgrade. That'll send a much more powerful message to NeXT than network whining ever will. Your current version of NS will continue to work just as well after the upgrade is released as it does now. I haven't heard that 3.3 will introduce anything that will make new apps 3.3-dependent. Much of the additional functionality of 3.3 is aimed at large networks of Intel machines, so if you don't have an Intel machine on a large network, maybe you don't need 3.3. You can always buy a NS MIME mail app from a 3rd-party vendor if you need MIME mail. Of course, the cost of the app will be a significant fraction of the cost of the NS upgrade, but for some reason, people seem to think that OS software should be dirt cheap even if it includes new apps, new functionality, etc. NeXT could essentially give away upgrades as many of you seem to demand, but that would soon leave you with no possible upgrade path because NeXT will fail without OS software income. Unlike OS/2 and Windows whose developers have lots of income from all sorts of other products, NS accounts for almost all of NeXT's income. Would you prefer that NeXT make NS cheap and get into the shrinkwrap market competing with the struggling 3rd-party vendors? Ask those who have to compete with MS shrinkwrap products how much fun it is to compete with the developer of the OS whose programmers have inside knowledge about the OS. Instead of continuing to whine about NS and its pricing, there are good, inexpensive alternatives like Linux if you want a UNIX OS. Oh, but they don't offer what you want in an OS? Hey, there's no free lunch. Someone's got to pay for what NeXT is producing, so if you use it, pay for it. For those whiners who are using NS commercially, how many hours of your time does the $199 upgrade represent? By when will you have saved that many hours by using NS vs. any other OS? For those whiners who are in academia, maybe you'll just have to lag a little behind if you don't feel the upgrade is worth the price. The basic functionality hasn't changed so you and your students won't be missing the basics at all. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: printing the OpenStep specs? Date: 25 Oct 1994 15:59:25 GMT Message-ID: <38ja0t$obb@aragorn.unibe.ch> I downloaded the PostScript file with the OpenStep specifications and wanted to print it on a printer which is capable of printing double sided (saving paper and making it look nicer!). Yet the only output I get is: %DCPS-W-WYNERR, syntaxerror: Input ended in string or procedure body - offending command is --nostringval-- %DCPS-E-FLUSHING, Rest of Job (to EOJ) will be ignored and no page is printed. How could I change the PostScript to get it working, or what else is wrong. I have no problem viewing it with Preview. As far as I remember I'm not the first person to have problems with Frame's PostScript :-( Thanks for any help, -- Moritz Willers Institute of Theoretical Physics Sidlerstrasse 5 3012 Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: tom_gall@vnet.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 25 Oct 1994 17:50:00 GMT Organization: IBM Rochester MN Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Distribution: world Message-ID: <38jgg8$1htq@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com> <38hsqm$qhj@mp.cs.niu.edu> <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu> In article <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu>, phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: |> In article <38hsqm$qhj@mp.cs.niu.edu> bennett@cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) writes: |> >>I think this pretty much is the funeral dirge for NeXTStep in the general |> >>student/consumer market. Hold on, hold the phone....Geez, it's NOT like you HAVE to upgrade to 3.3. I admit the cost is a high, but hey is there really function there you need? If not, wait till 4.0. Chill out. [snip] |> I do think that this is a very bleak sign for NS in academic circles. The |> upgrade price is not consistent. In the past, one received the whole OS and |> not just the user version. This may very well be the last straw. Let the |> MCA types play for a few years. NS will die without new academic, especially |> student, blood. This is indeed a sad time for those of us who hoped that |> the MCA kick was simply a means to an end. Hold on! What in the *WORLD* gives you the idea that NeXT is going to start unbundling the User/Dev package for acedemia? Remember 3.3 is just an upgrade to the User part of the equation. IE not one update for developer. (Of course there is EOF, but that's a seperate product) So the sky isn't falling.... [snip] Tom -- #include <std-disclaimer.h> |o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o| |o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o| |o| - Marvin Martian |o| |o| tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (work - No NeXTMail) |o| |o| TGall@eworld.com (home - Newton Mail) |o| |o| Coming Soon, NeXTMailable email address |o|
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [WM] Processes Panel again Date: 25 Oct 1994 13:35:11 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410251835.AA25889@alleg.EDU> I am assuming that there is a way to do everything in Terminal that can be done in the File Viewer. In the Processes panel, when selected on an App you see a "status" report that is either "launching" "running" or "dying" (if you kill it) How can this information be found through terminal? The reason I want to know is that I have a login script that launches some apps that are not on my dock, and I would like to be able to have them wait until one app is done launching before launching the next app (Ha! no pun intended, I suprised even myself with that one.) Anyone able to help me out here? Thanks TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 Motorola No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 25 Oct 1994 20:54:53 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <38jrat$d20@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <38j1ph$ajn@news.tamu.edu> <38jbqs$fap@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote: : [ many upgrade pricing complaints deleted ... ] : NeXT could essentially give away upgrades as many of you seem to : demand, but that would soon leave you with no possible upgrade path : because NeXT will fail without OS software income. Unlike OS/2 and : Windows whose developers have lots of income from all sorts of other : products, NS accounts for almost all of NeXT's income. Would you prefer : that NeXT make NS cheap and get into the shrinkwrap market competing with : the struggling 3rd-party vendors? Ask those who have to compete with MS : shrinkwrap products how much fun it is to compete with the developer of : the OS whose programmers have inside knowledge about the OS. : Instead of continuing to whine about NS and its pricing, there are : good, inexpensive alternatives like Linux if you want a UNIX OS. Oh, but : they don't offer what you want in an OS? Hey, there's no free lunch. : Someone's got to pay for what NeXT is producing, so if you use it, pay for : it. For those whiners who are using NS commercially, how many hours of : your time does the $199 upgrade represent? By when will you have saved : that many hours by using NS vs. any other OS? For those whiners who are : in academia, maybe you'll just have to lag a little behind if you don't : feel the upgrade is worth the price. The basic functionality hasn't : changed so you and your students won't be missing the basics at all. You've hit the point. Someone's got to pay for that NeXT is producing. Now NeXT keeps on telling us that it's the MCA customers who really pay them. Ok. Since they don't have any interest to _support_ academia any more, why shouldn't they leave us alone with their software ;-) I mean, if you don't rely on incomings from the academia, you could well give away your software to them 'without any support' to a little bit about production price. Students would love them for cheap prices, and soon there would be an even bigger Internet community (compare Linux). NeXT in turn could concentrate on vertical markets and MCA, and wouldn't loose much. Ok, ok. Just a dream ... ;-) Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: GS Corp. Are they still around Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 18:21:00 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct24.182100.20943@cyantic.com> Some time ago GS Corp announced a strategic move into the high-end graphics/publishing move using Nextstep as the premier technology. Did anything ever come of it and are they still making an effort? -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [WM] Processes Panel again Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 16:34:29 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QifKjJC00Uh_45yXdB@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <9410251835.AA25889@alleg.EDU> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 25-Oct-94 [WM] Processes Panel again by Tim Luoma@alleg.EDU > In the Processes panel, when selected on an App you see a "status" > report that is either "launching" "running" or "dying" (if you kill > it) > > How can this information be found through terminal? Approximately by 'ps ux' or 'ps aux'-- look at the 'STAT' field. But, for what you're trying to do, you should really consider a dock extender rather than try and write a shell script or some such. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Upgrading Pricing Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 14:59:47 +1000 Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <godwin.383.033F3889@unixg.ubc.ca> In article <38j9vm$1d7@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: >From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)>Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) >Date: 25 Oct 1994 11:58:46 -0400 >: In article <38hu9n$hae@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) >: writes: >: Hey, this isn't an insignificant little upgrade like some of the minor releases >: in the past have been. There are significant improvements to NetInfo, the >: system administration,... and the networking software at the kernel >: level. >IMHO, of little interest to the individual user. How many students are >maintaining a NetInfo network in their dorm rooms? The reason I was >looking forward to 3.3 was its improved Intel support (and MIME email >would be nice). >: NEXTSTEP will perform better, and will be more reliable as a result of >: these improvements. I think it is worth the $200. Hey, think about the break >: edu users are already getting off of the retail price. Do you want NeXT to >: give it away? Sounds like students here at BYU whining about $50 tuition >: increases. They get the same quality education as many other large private >: universities, but for a very small fraction of the price (just over $1100 for >: what would cost at least $10000 elsewhere). >So should I take out another student loan to pay for it? Especially >when I just shelled out $300 for 3.2 two months ago? It's a ^^^ I paid 69 Cdn for mind over the summer...courtesy of UBC book store!;-) >cost/benefit ratio. There aren't enough benefits in 3.3 to justify that >kind of an upgrade cost, especially considering the origional purchase >price. It's just dead wrong. Here's my theory: NeXT is putting all of >it's efforts behind MCCA, and sees students and other individual users as >a useless distraction. Charge 'em $199 for a minor upgrade, and lose 'em >forever. Just a thought. DARN! now I have to wait till UBC have another surplus sale again!;-) Ahhh! old student loan, student loan.........SHEEEEEET! Think most of us NeXTSTEP users's opinion is: "It Just F*cking Sux" >>> Cash / Kurt Russell Tango and Cash *sigh* Godwin >- Jay >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu> <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 23:34:51 GMT In article <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >In article <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes: >[ ] > >>Also, the $199 upgrade price represents 2/3 of the academic >>bundle price, just for the user version. Seems a bit high. But, at >>least, they called me promptly back to an inquiry. > >The upgrade cost is yet another barrier to NS in the academic world. The >future is indeed bleak. To cut off an OS from the future is to doom it. > > >-- >Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) >philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu >[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...] I can't believe people are complaining about a $199 academic upgrade. Sure, you got a great deal originally ($299), but what do you expect NeXT to do? Lose money??? NeXT doesn't have to sell NEXTSTEP at an 80% discount to students. They could charge $1000 and you'd still be getting a deal - but they don't. So, lighten up. $199 seems totally reasonable to me for an upgrade. -Rob
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 26 Oct 1994 00:20:57 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Distribution: world Message-ID: <38k7d9$964@network.ucsd.edu> References: <38k35l$5ea@network.ucsd.edu> Marcus S. Day (marc@surfboy.ucsd.edu) wrote: : NeXT should be more concerned about getting a ton of students dependent : on their beautiful operating system than they should about sucking 'em : dry. Look how well it worked with the Mac. :-( : Seems they are testing the pain threshold with these updates, : and that's putting them in the same doghouse as I toss all those other : dirtbags (DEC, Mac, IBM, etc). Oh...fuck it, I guess it's a scumbag- : eat-scumbag world, and my pidly $300 isnt going to change anyone's mind. : As for me, I'm keeping my $29 NEXTSTEP_3.0--I'll spend my $300 on beer. Processing upgrades takes them manpower. Excess bodies is something they have few of. It would be nice if they had some policy for "campus wide" site licenses, hand off the CD's to somebody at the university and then not worry about it. Though it's not clear that universities would plunk down the money. : -M -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: marc@surfboy.ucsd.edu (Marcus S. Day) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 25 Oct 1994 23:08:37 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <38k35l$5ea@network.ucsd.edu> References: <38i27a$bc0@hamblin.math.byu.edu> In article <38i27a$bc0@hamblin.math.byu.edu> pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) writes: PMC: Hey, this isn't an insignificant little upgrade like some of the minor PMC: releases in the past have been. There are significant improvements PMC: to NetInfo, the system administration and user tools, and the PMC: networking software at the kernel level. NEXTSTEP will perform PMC: better, and will be more reliable as a result of these improvements. PMC: I think it is worth the . Hey, think about the break edu users are PMC: already getting off of the retail price. Do you want NeXT to give it PMC: away? Sounds like students here at BYU whining about tuition PMC: increases. They get the same quality education as many other large PMC: private universities, but for a very small fraction of the price PMC: (just over for what would cost at least elsewhere). PMC: PMC: PMC: PMC: -- Paul M. Cardon Do get me started on tuition hikes. Wait, I guess this is the same. See, the tuition is such a small fraction of what it really costs to educate someone, what's the point in raising fees. For a student $5000 vs $10,000 is the difference between eating TV dinners and eating the box they come in for the next meal. But for the state, the extra income doesnt amount to a new roll of toilet paper in the faculty men's room. California taxpayers are paying for the UC education, whether students pay $5K or $10K a year. I think the NeXTSTEP upgrade prices are subject to the same logic, except of course that the commercial customers are footing the bill--and that's the way it should be. NeXT should be more concerned about getting a ton of students dependent on their beautiful operating system than they should about sucking 'em dry. Seems they are testing the pain threshold with these updates, and that's putting them in the same doghouse as I toss all those other dirtbags (DEC, Mac, IBM, etc). Oh...fuck it, I guess it's a scumbag- eat-scumbag world, and my pidly $300 isnt going to change anyone's mind. As for me, I'm keeping my $29 NEXTSTEP_3.0--I'll spend my $300 on beer. I'll shut up now. -M
From: hendryj@mcs.com (Jonathan Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 26 Oct 1994 04:04:03 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <38kkfj$ddo@News1.mcs.com> References: <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu> In article <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > I do think that this is a very bleak sign for NS in academic circles. The > upgrade price is not consistent. In the past, one received the whole OS and > not just the user version. This may very well be the last straw. Let the > MCA types play for a few years. NS will die without new academic, especially > student, blood. This is indeed a sad time for those of us who hoped that > the MCA kick was simply a means to an end. > > With no bundled Mathematica, ridiculous academic upgrade pricing, and other > viable OS's coming on the market, one has to wonder why NeXT could even > think they would get away with this. Oh please. "NS will die without new academic, especially student, blood" How, pray tell, is "new academic... blood" supposed to be NeXT's saving grace, when that same academic blood refuses to pay even a tiny fraction of the list price? I mean hell, the academic market bitches about *Apple*'s prices for System 7, for cryin' out loud. Yes, the stingiest, whiniest market in the Universe is going to save NeXT from the jaws of Chapter 11. Yeah. That's the ticket. All those academic purchasers are the key to a healthy 3rd party market, right? Just as long as those third parties can survive on $20 programs. That a tiny fraction of the academic market will even buy. Geez. I suppose that if Ford doesn't sell brand new Tauruses to academics for $1000, they're bound to go under. I mean come _on_ folks. It's not _that_ much money. -- Jonathan W. Hendry hendryj@mcs.com
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 26 Oct 1994 02:14:57 -0400 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <38ks51$n8n@anshar.shadow.net> References: <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu> <38kkfj$ddo@News1.mcs.com> Jonathan Hendry (hendryj@mcs.com) wrote: : How, pray tell, is "new academic... blood" supposed to be NeXT's saving : grace, when that same academic blood refuses to pay even a tiny fraction : of the list price? I mean hell, the academic market bitches about *Apple*'s : prices for System 7, for cryin' out loud. : Yes, the stingiest, whiniest market in the Universe is going to save NeXT : from the jaws of Chapter 11. <other nonsense deleted> Uh, hello? Selling software at an academic discount has nothing to do with increasing NeXT's immediate revenues. It's not supposed to. The reason for selling to students is to create a generation of NeXT users who will leave college and influence the companies they work for to use NeXT's technology. You want to know the value of students? Students like myself who are enthusiastic about NeXT's technology convince others to give NeXTSTEP a try, expanding the user base. I provide free publicity for NeXT and third parties who help me. If it were not for those ISV's who generously provide their products at a discount for students, I could NEVER have afforded using NeXTSTEP. Those who espouse such elitist attitudes, unfortunately, serve only to alienate NeXTSTEP from mainstream computing. Before you chase away some of NeXT's greatest advocates, step back and look at the bigger picture. As the IBM'ers would say: THINK - Jay
Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc From: nsayer@quack.kfu.com (Nick Sayer) Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Message-ID: <govxwfC@quack.kfu.com> Sender: news@quack.kfu.com (0000-News(0000)) Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'. References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <gopSjNo@quack.kfu.com> <38h2tl$fdn@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Distribution: inet Date: 26 Oct 1994 07:22:40 UTC sinan@u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu) writes: >In article <gopSjNo@quack.kfu.com>, Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com> wrote: >>adler@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Bruce Adler [Contractor]) writes: >> >>>You're right, Solaris x86 only supports about 16 different SCSI HBAs, >>>and 17 different network adapters, and 56 different graphics adapters >>>and 22 different notebook display adapters. >> >>And not a single one of them PCMCIA. >I was just looking thru SunExpert and they showed some vendors >that ship Solaris x86 machines and they do support PCMCIA. My source is the Hardware Compatability Guide, the Notebook Suppliment for Solaris 2.4 x86, and two fellows at SunSoft. PCMCIA is not supported under 2.4 x86 at this time, according to all four. I anticipate that this situation may change before '95, but I can't quote the source who gave me the date. You may be thinking of the Voyager, which is SMCC's sparc portable (I won't call it a laptop) machine. It has PCMCIA, and for all I know it probably is supported under 2.4, but of course it isn't an x86 machine (and it costs too damn much anyway). -- Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com> | "Dear Sexy Knickers. I don't half fancy N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM | you. Meet me at the lift at 5:30 and +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest' | we'll get it together." URL: http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/ | -- Mr. Lucas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is Starting Point? Message-ID: <1994Oct25.114831.4920@roper.uwyo.edu> From: ezimmerm@UWYO.EDU Date: 25 Oct 94 11:48:31 MDT Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie Salutations! I've been a NeXT user at school for a couple years (my old school, U Wisconson, Superior) and had heard of Starting Point, but never used it. Actually, I've just heard about it in passing. What is the Starting Point Kit? Hardware? Software? Combo? An intro to NeXT? Gene ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <Cy9qtn.E0H@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu> <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 07:15:23 GMT In article <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) writes: [ ] >I can't believe people are complaining about a $199 academic upgrade. Sure, >you got a great deal originally ($299), but what do you expect NeXT to do? >Lose money??? NeXT doesn't have to sell NEXTSTEP at an 80% discount to >students. They could charge $1000 and you'd still be getting a deal - but >they don't. So, lighten up. $199 seems totally reasonable to me for an >upgrade. Well for people who are not using it for commercial purposes, and hence can't write it off (this means it is eqivalent to a $400 commercial upgrade) it is absurd. The bottom line is this: if NeXT can't afford to supply the educational market then so be it. They will simply be giving up on the future in the same short sighted manner that many businesses behave. What can I say? I can see the end of the line for NS and myself, and I can afford the $199. I just refuse to be part of a world full of nonsense. Your $1000 comment is out to lunch. You clearly have no idea what is going on in academic circles, nor do you seem to care. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <Cy9sqK.HFI@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <38hsqm$qhj@mp.cs.niu.edu> <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu> <38jgg8$1htq@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 07:56:44 GMT In article <38jgg8$1htq@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> tom_gall@vnet.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes: >In article <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu>, phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >|> In article <38hsqm$qhj@mp.cs.niu.edu> bennett@cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) writes: >|> >>I think this pretty much is the funeral dirge for NeXTStep in the general >|> >>student/consumer market. > >Hold on, hold the phone....Geez, it's NOT like you HAVE to upgrade to 3.3. >I admit the cost is a high, but hey is there really function there you need? >If not, wait till 4.0. Chill out. This is not the PC world. The price from 3.3 to 4.0, or whatever, may very well be different than from 3.2 to 4.0. I do not have to do anything. I can afford the upgrade personally. That is not the issue. The issue is that NS is moving rapidly out of reach for educational users. I don't want to be part of a world full of MCA hot air. One needs a balance and unfortunately I do believe that this sends a message. It's not just that this one time user "upgrade" is far more expensive than the educational full upgrades of the past. It's more what it says about the future. There have been crisis points in NS for the original users, of which I am one. The issue of the MO, ND, Cube, dropping of hardware, move to MCA, etc...This simply makes it clear where NeXT wants to be. Look, I don't really yearn to be part of the OS/2 insurance company club either. I strongly believe that there are things happening in computing now which will bring power down to the people and away from the elite few. NS does not want to be part of that. What can I say? You can't keep getting depressed every year because someone wants better sushi. I'm not going to throw away NS. As you noted I do not have to upgrade. In fact I guess the difficult decision will be where to store the manuals and disks, etc...as I remove NS from the PC. At least it's a lot easier than the day I had to sell my Cube. Should NeXT come back down to earth than it can be reinstalled. However I suspect it's time to leave the MCA boys to their toys. >|> I do think that this is a very bleak sign for NS in academic circles. The >|> upgrade price is not consistent. In the past, one received the whole OS and >|> not just the user version. This may very well be the last straw. Let the >|> MCA types play for a few years. NS will die without new academic, especially >|> student, blood. This is indeed a sad time for those of us who hoped that >|> the MCA kick was simply a means to an end. > >Hold on! What in the *WORLD* gives you the idea that NeXT is going to start >unbundling the User/Dev package for acedemia? In the past one upgrade NEXTSTEP for a moderate fee (not just part of it). I simply refuse to pay the same price for an upgrade of part of the OS as for the whole thing. Look, if NeXT wants me to keep buying the OS every year they can forget it. I can do a lot with the 32 megs of RAM I have in the PC. I'm telling you. This will mean the end of any significant presence of NS in academic circles. Unbundling Mathematica, Mac connectivity, etc... has not gone over well. Why the heck should one continue using NS? I just happen to love it, but I don't really care one bit for systems' programming. I'm more a user and a relatively poor one. >Remember 3.3 is just an upgrade to the User part of the equation. IE not one >update for developer. (Of course there is EOF, but that's a seperate product) >So the sky isn't falling.... It's not falling. It's gone... -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <Cy9t6M.IA8@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu> <38kkfj$ddo@News1.mcs.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 08:06:22 GMT In article <38kkfj$ddo@News1.mcs.com> hendryj@mcs.com writes: [More regarding academic policies ....] >Oh please. > >"NS will die without new academic, especially student, blood" > >How, pray tell, is "new academic... blood" supposed to be NeXT's saving >grace, when that same academic blood refuses to pay even a tiny fraction >of the list price? I mean hell, the academic market bitches about *Apple*'s >prices for System 7, for cryin' out loud. > >Yes, the stingiest, whiniest market in the Universe is going to save NeXT >from the jaws of Chapter 11. Yeah. That's the ticket. All those academic >purchasers are the key to a healthy 3rd party market, right? Just as long >as those third parties can survive on $20 programs. That a tiny fraction >of the academic market will even buy. > >Geez. I suppose that if Ford doesn't sell brand new Tauruses to academics for >$1000, they're bound to go under. > >I mean come _on_ folks. It's not _that_ much money. It is, and you're blind to the issue at hand. Why don't you simply hand back the tax break one gets for business usage? There are a lot of people who refuse to see into the future. It happened with statistical quality control in the past, it's happened with the pursuit of directed research and we see small bits of it in the MCA community. Look, be happy in your vertical markets. The moment 3.3 ships at a $199US educational price for the User version is the moment that I click remove from my HD. Frankly, I just don't give a damn anymore. People who do not value the youth of a nation are fools, and this is looking more and more like a ship of fools. >Jonathan W. Hendry hendryj@mcs.com ^^^ -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: pajarola@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 26 Oct 1994 11:03:58 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Message-ID: <38ld2u$kvf@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu> <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> > Rob writes: > I can't believe people are complaining about a $199 academic upgrade. Sure, Sure it is too much, hey, only for an update !!! > you got a great deal originally ($299), but what do you expect NeXT to do? > Lose money??? NeXT doesn't have to sell NEXTSTEP at an 80% discount to > students. They could charge $1000 and you'd still be getting a deal - but WHAT ??? You're crazy, 1000$, that's way too much, not worth it ... > they don't. So, lighten up. $199 seems totally reasonable to me for an > upgrade. Not for me. Keep on posting ... Renato ____________________________________________________________________________ Renato B. Pajarola NeXT-mail OK ETH / Swiss Federal Institute of Technology email: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch Haldeneggsteig 4, IFW phone: ++41 (0)1 632 74 02 8092 Zurich, Switzerland fax: ++41 (0)1 632 11 72 WWW --> http://www.inf.ethz.ch/department/TI/pw/staff/pajarola.html
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Best way to access Internet rom a NeXT? Date: 26 Oct 1994 12:04:06 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <38lgjm$2sd7@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi there - What's the consensus on the best way to access the Internet from a NeXT? I'm looking for a cheap, relatively high bandwidth solution. For instance, even a 28.8K modem doesn't perform super when it comes to graphics such as using Mosaic (assuming I can ever get this damn SLIP to work). One thing I'm pondering is I hear ISDN is making a comeback. How expensive is it to get an ISDN type modem, the service, and the usage charges? Also, what software do you use (I imagine SLIP, PPP), and how many Internet providers have ISDN hardware on their end? Any other good, cheap choices? Rich
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Date: 26 Oct 1994 09:14:00 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> Hi. I forgot to mention two things in the submission announcement: 1. Source to Fiend 1.1 will not be made available 2. A triple fat version will be submitted as soon as possible - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: rsrodger@fiber.eng.umd.edu (Robert Stephen Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 26 Oct 1994 09:16:41 -0400 Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <38lkrp$4p0@fiber.eng.umd.edu> References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <38gump$57f@agate.berkeley.edu> <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> In article <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com>, Robert Wyatt <rwyatt@netcom.com> wrote: >>The upgrade cost is yet another barrier to NS in the academic world. The >>future is indeed bleak. To cut off an OS from the future is to doom it. > >I can't believe people are complaining about a $199 academic upgrade. Sure, >you got a great deal originally ($299), but what do you expect NeXT to do? >Lose money??? Serious question: Since many people blame the price of NS on the licenses that NeXT must include (dps, pantone, etc.) couldn't NeXT recycle these licenses in the upgrade?
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From: "Thomas G. Mon" <tm31+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:01:37 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8ifbpVe00iV_E3Ru1X@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <38ld2u$kvf@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 26-Oct-94 Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Ac.. by Renato Pajarola@iiic.eth > > Rob writes: > > I can't believe people are complaining about a $199 academic upgrade. Sure, > Sure it is too much, hey, only for an update !!! > > > you got a great deal originally ($299), but what do you expect NeXT to do? > > Lose money??? NeXT doesn't have to sell NEXTSTEP at an 80% discount to > > students. They could charge $1000 and you'd still be getting a deal - but > WHAT ??? You're crazy, 1000$, that's way too much, not worth it ... > > > they don't. So, lighten up. $199 seems totally reasonable to me for an > > upgrade. When I upgraded originally to 3.0, the academic pricing was $512 (including a NeXT CD-ROM drive)... now I don't know how much the drive was actually worth back then, but $199 for the upgrade to 3.3 doesn't sound bad to me either. Tom. tm31@andrew.cmu.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:10:24 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gifbxka00WBKA1m4dL@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <38lkrp$4p0@fiber.eng.umd.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 26-Oct-94 Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Ac.. by Robert S. Rodgers@fiber. > Serious question: Since many people blame the price of NS on the licenses > that NeXT must include (dps, pantone, etc.) couldn't NeXT recycle these > licenses in the upgrade? Excellent question, but the answer depends on the exact terms of the licenses, which are not publicly available. Normally, one doesn't owe any additional money for royalties if the item being licensed hasn't changed in the upgrade, which is likely to be the case for NFS, the low-level Unix/Mach stuff, and so forth. On the other hand, NEXTSTEP generally has updated versions of DPS, probably RenderMan, and who knows what else. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <1994Oct26.163024.14786@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: uchicago strn fanclub References: <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu> <38kkfj$ddo@news1.mcs.com> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 16:30:24 GMT In article <38kkfj$ddo@news1.mcs.com>, Jonathan Hendry <hendryj@mcs.com> wrote: >"NS will die without new academic, especially student, blood" > >How, pray tell, is "new academic... blood" supposed to be NeXT's saving >grace, when that same academic blood refuses to pay even a tiny fraction >of the list price? I mean hell, the academic market bitches about *Apple*'s >prices for System 7, for cryin' out loud. I'll point out that the Lexus/Nexus data search program (or whatever it is, I don't use it), has made a killing by giving it away practically free to law schools, and getting the users "hooked" on it so that they buy it when they are working in a law firm... --
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS garbage collection Date: 26 Oct 1994 17:01:57 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <38m225$5un@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> At last night's BANG Developers' SIG, Bertrand Serlet, NeXT's CTO(?), discussed the Foundation Kit. The inevitable garbage collection discussion ensued. I learned something that I didn't know and maybe others didn't know, but NeXT has been experimenting with true garbage collection for several years and has ruled it out for what seem to be very valid reasons. In fact, the 3.2 Workspace Manager (and possibly, Mail) use true garbage collection to clean up unreferenced memory. While this works well enough for individual apps, NeXT found it to be unsuitable for all apps to use in general because of the problems with many apps garbage-collecting VM at possibly the same time. Then there's the thorny issue of distributed garbage collection. And there's the issue of the random nature of garbage collection and how this randomness complicates bug reproducibility. Bertrand made a very convincing case for Foundation Kit's autorelease pool approach to memory management. This approach along with the entire OpenStep API appear to have been VERY PAINSTAKINGLY considered by a fairly large and diverse group of NeXT's finest engineers over a considerable period of time. Bertrand feels that this deliberate, comprehensive approach meant that very few options were not considered before arriving at the OpenStep and Foundation Kit API's. So I feel confident that OpenStep and Foundation Kit will be considered excellent API's after they're released and used. Another concern of mine was cleared up. EOF Developer includes much of the Foundation Kit. I would like to be able to use it for non-EOF apps but was concerned that only those with EOF User installed would be able to run such apps. But this won't be the case. NS 3.3 will include the Foundation Kit in a shared library because several of NeXT's 3.3 apps are based on Foundation Kit and thus require the FK shlib. So start migrating to FK now. And for those who may have wondered how serious Sun is about OpenStep, several attendees at the meeting with inside Sun contacts have confirmed that Sun is VERY SERIOUS about OpenStep. In fact, an early prerelease of OpenStep/Solaris will be ready for useability testing starting next week. Sun is looking for a few useability testers in the Bay Area and posted an announcement to comp.sys.next.? several days ago. However, the posting referred to DOE testing which didn't register as "OpenStep" with me. The word is that Sun needs or will be needing NEXTSTEP-experienced people to help with OpenStep/Solaris. Sun will be pushing OpenStep to the many Solaris and SunOS developers that already exist. This should be a VERY POSITIVE development for NEXTSTEP in general and should open up many new opportunities for OpenStep developers. I have already started receiving phone calls from traditional Sun headhunters and recruiters looking for NEXTSTEP-experienced people. So I think that the future market is bright for NS developers. Brush up on your skills. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: Thomas Rohde <tom@trohde.hanse.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Info on *Daydream*, PLEASE! Date: 25 Oct 1994 20:37:15 GMT Organization: Self-organized organism feeding on chaos Message-ID: <38jq9r$6u7@trohde.hanse.de> References: <38bfdg$icn@netnews.upenn.edu> hello, try: info@dancingbear.com, if they still are in business, they used to sell daydream in the U.S. otherwise try the below address: : QUIX Computerware AG, P.O. Box 306, 6030 Ebikon-Lucerne, Switzerland : : quix@applelink.apple.com Fax 011-41-41-348680 : : If you send us [i.e. THEM] e-mail, please include your name in the : subject line! gruezi, tom -- ______________________________________________________ Thomas Rohde mail: tom@trohde.hanse.de Grindelallee 27 B NeXTmail OK 20146 Hamburg, Germany voice: (+49) 040-44.88.19
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tang@media.mit.edu (Charles Wei-Ting Tang) Subject: MIDI adapter for PC's Message-ID: <1994Oct26.170148.21212@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 17:01:48 GMT What is the best MIDI adapter for PC's? I'd really appreciate it if you could supply the name of the product, the maker, the cost, and where it can be found (PC Warehouse perhaps?). Please write to: <tang@media-lab.media.mit.edu> Thanks! -Charles
From: brianw@sw.stratus.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Mail / NextStep Advice Sought Date: 26 Oct 1994 17:33:33 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Distribution: world Message-ID: <38m3td$gh4@transfer.stratus.com> Hi, I work in a Customer Support Center and am having some difficulty deciding the best alternative for our emailing problem. We track customer questions, problems, complaints, etc in a software package we have made. Basically, the general question or problem is written up by Level 1 Support, put on an "unassigned" quasi-queue (really, just a list), and then picked up by Level 2. At this point, the call is no longer on the unassigned list. Lots of our interaction with customers comes across from Internet Email, and we'll take the email, and place it in another file - with headers, contact names, summaries, etc. Each issue is assigned a unique call number which Level 1 supplies to the customer for future reference. The problem: We previously have had only one Level 1 person reading all of the incoming email. Now, we are expanding and don't want to duplicate work or confuse matters between co-workers. I have thought about just placing the two level 1 in a .forward file placed in the account of the address that customers know, but this doesn't seem the best solution. I have examined "MindShare" from NextStep 3.2 and this seems more a "project tracker" rather than a support desk helper.... Anyway, if anyone else has dealt with a similar problem and come up with a solution with NextStep 3.2, I'd appreciate any feedback. -- Brian Williams brianw@isis.com ISIS Distributed Systems, Inc. Customer Support Center 55 Fairbanks Boulevard Marlborough, MA 01752-1298 M/S M32 ISI
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEEDED: Where can I find the source for tcsh?? Date: 26 Oct 1994 18:15:26 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <38m6bu$sk5@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Keywords: tcsh Hi, I am looking for the source for the tcsh shell. Does anyone know where I can find it?? Thanks P.S. Please reply to me via email responses to this group may be overlooked. -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- Internet Network Police Organization -- We're here to protect you -- against yourselves!! ;) #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: Sinan Karasu <sinan@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:04:41 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Distribution: inet Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.91a.941026115755.21335A-100000@carson.u.washington.edu> References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <gopSjNo@quack.kfu.com> <38h2tl$fdn@nntp1.u.washington.edu> <199410260730.AA02688@quack.kfu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199410260730.AA02688@quack.kfu.com> On Wed, 26 Oct 1994, Nick Sayer wrote: > Forgive me. I simply must act a fool... Hi Nick, > > In comp.unix.solaris you write: > > >However , in my opinion at this time, it might be better to > >put Solaris 2.4 on your "bigger" machine, and put OS/2 Warp > >on your portable. > > Yuck! OS/2! Bleahack! Well, it is much better than the "Windoze that should have been shipped in '95 but was delayed" OS. > > I do have a couple of SPARCs at home, but this laptop would be I have a SS 1 and a SS1+ at home also. They run 2.4. Our 3rd machine is a Macintosh 840AV. Which will be eventually upgraded to a PREP Mac so I can run Solaris for PowerPC on it... :-) > my first x86 box, and I probably won't even install (non-Wabi) > windows on it. I'll give it a DOS partition, but just for Doom. :-) Yes and Yes. However we got to be pragmatic. If someone has an Intel based laptop with 4 MB RAM, it would be unrealistic to recommend Solaris 2.4 x86 for it. NeXT best thing is Warp...At least until Solaris Lite is realistic.... > In short, I have a heavily SPARC dominated environment (and mindset), I work on Sparcs at home, at University of Washington, and at work... > and the only reason an x86 (and an Intel one, no less!) is being > allowed in the front door is that it will run a SunSoft OS. I will not allow an Intel machine in my house. (That is a period...) So I sympathize with you ,however, as I said we got to be pragmatic.... Sinan > > > The just network the 2 together. > > The whole point is that the laptop won't be networked a lot of the > time. At least in theory. > > > That > >way you can run your Windows application ( as long as > >Solaris 2.4 supports it) on Wabi on one machine and on Warp > >on the other. > > -- > Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com> | > N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM | SPARC > +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest' | inside > URL: http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/ | >
From: sinan@u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 26 Oct 1994 20:17:39 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Distribution: inet Message-ID: <38mdh3$2e9@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <gopSjNo@quack.kfu.com> <38h2tl$fdn@nntp1.u.washington.edu> <govxwfC@quack.kfu.com> In article <govxwfC@quack.kfu.com>, Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com> wrote: >sinan@u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu) writes: > >You may be thinking of the Voyager, which is SMCC's sparc portable (I No I mean laptop. See SunExpert June 1994 page 86 (a coincidence?) It is put out by SiO Technology Inc. New York. >won't call it a laptop) machine. It has PCMCIA, and for all I know it >probably is supported under 2.4, but of course it isn't an x86 machine >(and it costs too damn much anyway). > >-- >Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com> | "Dear Sexy Knickers. I don't half fancy >N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM | you. Meet me at the lift at 5:30 and >+1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest' | we'll get it together." >URL: http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/ | -- Mr. Lucas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <rwyattCyAtI3.CG9@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> <Cy9qtn.E0H@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 21:10:50 GMT In article <Cy9qtn.E0H@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >In article <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) writes: > >[ ] > >>I can't believe people are complaining about a $199 academic upgrade. Sure, >>you got a great deal originally ($299), but what do you expect NeXT to do? >>Lose money??? NeXT doesn't have to sell NEXTSTEP at an 80% discount to >>students. They could charge $1000 and you'd still be getting a deal - but >>they don't. So, lighten up. $199 seems totally reasonable to me for an >>upgrade. > >Well for people who are not using it for commercial purposes, and hence >can't write it off (this means it is eqivalent to a $400 commercial >upgrade) it is absurd. I'm not sure I see where you are arriving at the $400 figure. Am I missing something? >The bottom line is this: if NeXT can't afford to supply the educational >market then so be it. They will simply be giving up on the future in >the same short sighted manner that many businesses behave. What can I >say? I can see the end of the line for NS and myself, and I can >afford the $199. I just refuse to be part of a world full of nonsense. >Your $1000 comment is out to lunch. You clearly have no idea what is >going on in academic circles, nor do you seem to care. I've only been out of college for one year...I don't think I'm that out of touch. So, don't pay $199 for the upgrade. Your loss...Not NeXT's. What do you expect NeXT to do? Offer you an upgrade at below their cost??? It costs them somewhere around $150 in licensing fees alone (estimated)! And no, my $1000 comment isn't out to lunch. You are just clearly one of those academic types who thinks they deserve everything for free just because they are in school or teach. NEXTSTEP User and Developer lists for around $4000, right? So, even at $1000, the discount is still tremendous. The point is, NeXT goes even further and sells NEXTSTEP at an almost unheard-of discount to the academic market. I don't know of too many companies that offer an 80+% discount on their software to academics. So, stop whining...If you really think NeXT should lose money to keep people like you happy, that's fine. And, if you don't want to upgrade as some kind of "protest", that's fine. Ultimately, you lose, though... >-- >Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) >philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu >[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...] -Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <rwyattCyAtnD.Cs0@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> <38lkrp$4p0@fiber.eng.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 21:14:00 GMT In article <38lkrp$4p0@fiber.eng.umd.edu> rsrodger@fiber.eng.umd.edu (Robert Stephen Rodgers) writes: >In article <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com>, >Robert Wyatt <rwyatt@netcom.com> wrote: >>>The upgrade cost is yet another barrier to NS in the academic world. The >>>future is indeed bleak. To cut off an OS from the future is to doom it. >> >>I can't believe people are complaining about a $199 academic upgrade. Sure, >>you got a great deal originally ($299), but what do you expect NeXT to do? >>Lose money??? > >Serious question: Since many people blame the price of NS on the licenses >that NeXT must include (dps, pantone, etc.) couldn't NeXT recycle these licenses >in the upgrade? Hmmm...Interesting question...I don't believe that would work, though. However, I'm not an attorney and I've never laid eyes on the agreements NeXT has with each of the companies it pays money to. I would imag though, that licensing fees are paid per CD-ROM regardless of whether or not it is an upgrade or a new sale. -Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico) Subject: Academic upgrade pricing. Message-ID: <jpanicoCyAwAt.3ow@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 22:11:16 GMT For the record, when I said NS would die in the Academic circles if they pursue this pricing scheme, I was NOT WHINING. The statement was merely an observation, or an opinion of what I suspect the future holds. I, and I suspect many other computer users, do not whine-- I simply vote with my feet. Joe Panico jpanico@netcom.com
From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What's new in 3.3? Date: 26 Oct 1994 23:51:04 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <38mq18$nsu@news.xs4all.nl> References: <px9410242049.AA18076@pine.proxima.com> Keywords: NS 3.3 In article <px9410242049.AA18076@pine.proxima.com> elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) writes: > In article <3898qv$79u@news.primenet.com> you wrote: > # Howdy, > > # So anyone care to do a quick review on the 3.3? New features, speed > # compared to 3.2, new and old bugs, and all the other fun stuff. > > Paul - hopefully noone will respond to this. I say that not to be > belligerent, but simply because anyone with 3.3 has accepted a > non-disclosure agreement with NeXT which strictly forbids this. > > That aside, 3.3 looks very nice, and will be worth the wait. > > -- > Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 > Director, Network Services McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com Does this mean I have to pay $199 but nobody is allowed to tell me what I will get for this money?? About the free NeXTTIME (no comments about the capitals): Which codecs are supported? Does it know how to handle files that are not self-contained or are not flattened (MS Windows always complains that my quicktime movies should be self-contained and flattened). What about the QT 2.0 features? hugob@xs4all.nl (don't use reply).
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Best way to access Internet rom a NeXT? Date: 27 Oct 1994 02:25:14 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <38n32a$1di@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <38lgjm$2sd7@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> In article <38lgjm$2sd7@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) writes: > What's the consensus on the best way to access the Internet from a >NeXT? I'm looking for a cheap, relatively high bandwidth solution. For >instance, even a 28.8K modem doesn't perform super when it comes to graphics No kidding. > One thing I'm pondering is I hear ISDN is making a comeback. How >expensive is it to get an ISDN type modem, the service, and the usage charges? That depends a lot on where you are. In California, ISDN looks like a loser. >Also, what software do you use (I imagine SLIP, PPP), and how many Internet >providers have ISDN hardware on their end? Any other good, cheap choices? The current best answer for software seems to be "none whatsoever." Instead of an "ISDN modem" you get something like a Combinet; this is basically a box with ISDN on one side and and Ethernet on the other. It works with whatever you have now (or might get in the future), is more or less painless to set up, and can support more than one workstation (but you may need to pay your service provider extra to take advantage of this). If you find something other than ISDN (e.g. Frame Relay) is better- faster-cheaper, similar products exist. -=EPS=-
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Best way to access Internet rom a NeXT? Date: 27 Oct 1994 03:12:13 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <38n5qd$eil@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <38lgjm$2sd7@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <38n32a$1di@nic-nac.CSU.net> In article <38n32a$1di@nic-nac.CSU.net>, Eric P. Scott <eps@cs.sfsu.edu> wrote: >In article <38lgjm$2sd7@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> >warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) writes: >>One thing I'm pondering is I hear ISDN is making a >>comeback. How expensive is it to get an ISDN type modem, the >>service, and the usage charges? >That depends a lot on where you are. In California, ISDN >looks like a loser. Seemed to me they were in the lead a while back. Is the problem the usage charge, primarily? >>Also, what software do you use (I imagine SLIP, PPP), and >>how many Internet providers have ISDN hardware on their end? >>Any other good, cheap choices? >The current best answer for software seems to be "none >whatsoever." Instead of an "ISDN modem" you get something >like a Combinet; this is basically a box with ISDN on one >side and and Ethernet on the other. It works with whatever >you have now (or might get in the future), is more or less >painless to set up, and can support more than one >workstation (but you may need to pay your service provider >extra to take advantage of this). If you find something >other than ISDN (e.g. Frame Relay) is better- >faster-cheaper, similar products exist. One thing you say that surprises me is that you might have to pay the provider more if you attach more than one workstation to the Combinet's ethernet side. Lucky us, not here, I guess. I have a Combinet, with three workstations on my home ethernet (one of them a NeXT, the other two PCs). One of the nicer things is that on the campus side, the line goes into an Ascent hub, which handles 2x compression, as does the Combinet, so with both B channels up, I have a 256Kbps connection. Now don't cry: $40/month, no usage charge, and anyway the University pays it. But that's a special deal because the line is on the University centrex system. I think the regular ISDN service here does include a usage charge, and those peoples' bills are running about $80 a month for lots less total bandwidth than I use. -- <> Mapplethorpe is dead and he can still piss off Helms. That <> makes him, like, some kind of hero in my book. <> -- Bob Goldthwaite -- Opinions expressed herein have no connection with the UW-Madison. Jess Anderson anderson@doit.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <rwyattCyB9KM.90L@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> <38ld2u$kvf@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 02:57:58 GMT In article <38ld2u$kvf@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> pajarola@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) writes: > >> Rob writes: >> I can't believe people are complaining about a $199 academic upgrade. Sure, >Sure it is too much, hey, only for an update !!! > >> you got a great deal originally ($299), but what do you expect NeXT to do? >> Lose money??? NeXT doesn't have to sell NEXTSTEP at an 80% discount to >> students. They could charge $1000 and you'd still be getting a deal - but >WHAT ??? You're crazy, 1000$, that's way too much, not worth it ... If you don't believe that the NEXTSTEP user and developer environment and tools are worth $1000, why are you using it in the first place??? >> they don't. So, lighten up. $199 seems totally reasonable to me for an >> upgrade. >Not for me. I assume you want NeXT to *lose* money and sell you the upgrade for $5 or something...sure...to hell with the licensing fees...as long as we keep the academics happy...Some of you don't realize what a good deal you have I think... >Keep on posting ... > >Renato >____________________________________________________________________________ >Renato B. Pajarola NeXT-mail OK > >ETH / Swiss Federal Institute of Technology email: pajarola@inf.ethz.ch >Haldeneggsteig 4, IFW phone: ++41 (0)1 632 74 02 >8092 Zurich, Switzerland fax: ++41 (0)1 632 11 72 > >WWW --> http://www.inf.ethz.ch/department/TI/pw/staff/pajarola.html -Rob
From: eddy@hntp2.hinet.net (eddy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: printing the OpenStep specs? Date: 27 Oct 1994 05:39:19 GMT Organization: HiNet Message-ID: <38nee7$eep@serv.hinet.net> References: <38ja0t$obb@aragorn.unibe.ch> Moritz Willers (willers@butp.unibe.ch) wrote: : I downloaded the PostScript file with the OpenStep specifications and : wanted to print it on a printer which is capable of printing double sided : (saving paper and making it look nicer!). : Yet the only output I get is: : %DCPS-W-WYNERR, syntaxerror: Input ended in string or procedure body - : offending command is --nostringval-- : %DCPS-E-FLUSHING, Rest of Job (to EOJ) will be ignored : and no page is printed. How could I change the PostScript to get it : working, or what else is wrong. I have no problem viewing it with Preview. : As far as I remember I'm not the first person to have problems with : Frame's PostScript :-( I can print it by HP LeserJet 4. May be you can try it!!
From: linp@watserv.ucr.edu (Peter Lin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: literature Date: 27 Oct 1994 05:57:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <38nfg2$qh@galaxy.ucr.edu> The Mosaic Journal is now accepting submissions for the 1994-95 edition. Mosaic is the oldest undergraduate publication in the US. If you are interested, deadline is November 30th. All works must be previously unpublished and should include title, name, address and phone number. Submissions can be delivered in person at the Creative Writing department, or mail to UCR, careof Shannon Clark Mosaic, Creative Writing department.
From: linp@watserv.ucr.edu (Peter Lin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: poetry Date: 27 Oct 1994 05:49:39 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <38nf1j$qh@galaxy.ucr.edu> The Mosaic Journal is now accepting submissions of original works of fiction, poetry, photography, one-act plays, illustrations and musical compositions. The deadline for all submissions is November 3oth. All submissions must include title of work, name, address, and phone number. If you have further question please e-mail linp@watmail.ucr.edu.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Subject: Doom on CNN Message-ID: <CyBDJs.6zL@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: Hot Technologies Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 04:23:51 GMT The makers of Doom (Id Software?) were on CNN tonight. And, of course, there was a NeXTStation Color or Dimension running in the background... Robert La Ferla HTI
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Academic upgrade pricing. Date: 27 Oct 1994 03:24:26 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <38n6ha$o0u@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <jpanicoCyAwAt.3ow@netcom.com> Joe Panico writes ) For the record, when I said NS would die in the ) Academic circles if they pursue this pricing scheme, I was NOT WHINING. ) The statement was merely an observation, or an opinion of what I suspect ) the future holds. I, and I suspect many other computer users, do not ) whine-- ) I simply vote with my feet. Interesting. It could be a good observation, too, if you consider the cost to upgrade a lab. For example, BYU would have to spend over $5k to upgrade their lab, and it is a small lab--a little over 25 machines. (Paul Cardon could give the right number.) But when you consider how hard it is to get funding for things like this at many universities, that $5k is a big deal. To put it in perspective, you could pick up a P90 that is fully NS capable with a nice monitor and plenty of RAM for less than that. Of course, a school might try to buy one upgrade and upgrade all their machines, but that's a scary, dangerous, thing to do! I think BYU is planning on doing the upgrade anyway. So frankly, not everyone will jump ship because of the cost. I do pity the few university labs with over 100 machines! That's a lot of cash... perhaps that is why there are still places running 3.0. In my case, I wish people would at least get up to 3.2 since it would make MiscKit administration a heck of a lot easier, but I realize that real worlds costs prevent this. Oh well. :-) And I'll be paying for my upgrades, too, just like BYU. IMHO the changes are worth it. -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <CyBKyw.1Br@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> <Cy9qtn.E0H@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCyAtI3.CG9@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 07:04:08 GMT In article <rwyattCyAtI3.CG9@netcom.com> rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) writes: [ ] >I'm not sure I see where you are arriving at the $400 figure. Am I missing >something? Operating costs. Software is a deductible item. [ ] >I've only been out of college for one year...I don't think I'm that out of >touch. So, don't pay $199 for the upgrade. Your loss...Not NeXT's. What >do you expect NeXT to do? Offer you an upgrade at below their cost??? It >costs them somewhere around $150 in licensing fees alone (estimated)! And >no, my $1000 comment isn't out to lunch. You are just clearly one of those >academic types who thinks they deserve everything for free just because >they are in school or teach. NEXTSTEP User and Developer lists for around >$4000, right? So, even at $1000, the discount is still tremendous. The >point is, NeXT goes even further and sells NEXTSTEP at an almost unheard-of >discount to the academic market. I don't know of too many companies that >offer an 80+% discount on their software to academics. I do. One thing you seem to be forgetting is that the theory which undelines most commercial development comes from research done in universities, and for which we do not charge you a penny. Moreover, students simply can't afford $199 costs for minor upgrades. The argument that they don't have to upgrade is weak. It simply means they will have to pay more for the next one, put up with bad serial driver, poor sound support, etc... >So, stop whining...If you really think NeXT should lose money to keep people >like you happy, that's fine. And, if you don't want to upgrade as some >kind of "protest", that's fine. Ultimately, you lose, though... It's not a protest. I'd rather spend my time with people of a different nature than, for example, yourself. Sure I'll be losing. I've been with NS for a long time. I've encouraged many colleagues and students to go for NS. It's really not that much of a loss in the sense that I am not, nor do I believe in, this MCA stuff. Scientific Workplace has come on the scene just in time to deal with a possible deletion of my NS partition. I don't really feel it is in NeXT's interest to ignore students and academics. We've been amongst their best public relations. I'm not whining. I'm simply stating my opinions. I assume that is still allowed. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 27 Oct 1994 04:01:32 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <38n8mt$h5@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <38ks51$n8n@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: > Jonathan Hendry (hendryj@mcs.com) wrote: > : How, pray tell, is "new academic... blood" supposed to be NeXT's > : saving grace, when that same academic blood refuses to pay even > : a tiny fraction of the list price? I mean hell, the academic > : market bitches about *Apple*'s prices for System 7, for cryin' > : out loud. > : Yes, the stingiest, whiniest market in the Universe is going to > : save NeXT from the jaws of Chapter 11. > <other nonsense deleted> > > Uh, hello? Selling software at an academic discount has nothing > to do with increasing NeXT's immediate revenues. It's not supposed > to. The reason for selling to students is to create a generation > of NeXT users who will leave college and influence the companies > they work for to use NeXT's technology. For those coming late to this party, as Jay apparently is, NeXT *did* used to concentrate on academia. NeXT did not get rich from that. Jonathan's comments were not nonsense. NeXT tried the path you propose, and it did not work out all that well (financially) for them. Somewhere along the line they needed to start paying their bills, instead of just "generating enthusiasm" in the academic community. NeXT currently makes a $3,800 package available to students for $300. Students still argue that it's too expensive for them, which may very well be true, but there aren't all that many other companies which give students *that* kind of discount on any product. Sure, you can get OS/2 for $50, but so can Joe Corporate Customer with the Big Bucks. > You want to know the value of students? Students like myself who > are enthusiastic about NeXT's technology convince others to give > NeXTSTEP a try, expanding the user base. I provide free publicity > for NeXT and third parties who help me. If it were not for those > ISV's who generously provide their products at a discount for > students, I could NEVER have afforded using NeXTSTEP. Enthusiastic students are a good thing. They should not need to have every last update from NeXT "for big discounts" in order to keep their enthusiasm. Right now NeXT is concentrating on that "custom apps" marketplace. As such, the kind of enthusiastic students that NeXT would value would be *programmers*. If you can't justify the expense of 3.3 *user*, then you can still learn to become a mighty fine NeXTSTEP programmer without buying NS-3.3 user at all. In particular, there isn't any developer-type changes coming in 3.3 (as there is no 3.3 developer), and so I'd think that student-types could do quite well by sticking with NS-3.2. For those thinking about how obnoxious NeXT is about this, please note that this very same kind of outrage was expressed in all the Mac forums when Apple released System 7.5. No one wants to pay for any software. The answer I give here is the same as the one I gave there: If you don't like the price, don't buy it. Don't get me wrong. I think the price should be a bit lower too. But I think that the upgrade to NS-3.3 User should be lower for *everyone*. The academic world gets a $3000+ break on the entry fee for NeXTSTEP, so when it comes to upgrades I think that all NeXT users should get the same prices. [and I think that upgrade price should be a bit lower than the one announced for NS-3.3] My feeling, if anyone cares, is that NS-3.3 is inexpensive enough that I'll upgrade at least one of my four machines to it. If the price was more like $100, then I'd buy upgrades for all four of my machines. In my case I already own two copies of NeXTIME, and I only have two color machines, so the special deal NeXT is offering (by including NeXTIME) doesn't do a whole lot for me. I think it's a good idea for them to do, but it's not going to effect me much. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc From: eckhard@ts.go.dlr.de (Eckhard Rueggeberg) Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Message-ID: <CyBr71.D6n@news.dlr.de> Sender: root@news.dlr.de (Operator) Organization: DLR Goettingen, SM-SK References: <Pine.PTX.3.91a.941026115755.21335A-100000@carson.u.washington.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 09:18:37 GMT In article <Pine.PTX.3.91a.941026115755.21335A-100000@carson.u.washington.edu>, Sinan Karasu <sinan@u.washington.edu> writes: >> and the only reason an x86 (and an Intel one, no less!) is being >> allowed in the front door is that it will run a SunSoft OS. > >I will not allow an Intel machine in my house. (That is a period...) >So I sympathize with you ,however, as I said we got to be pragmatic.... > >Sinan I will allow a Intel machine in my house, because a 486DX66 running a good UNIX like Linux is faster on integer problmes (like TeXing) than a SS10/50, which I can't effort... -- Eckhard R"uggeberg eckhard@ts.go.dlr.de
From: rpomeroy@atlantis (Ron Pomeroy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What's new in 3.3? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 27 Oct 1994 12:31:37 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Sender: rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu Distribution: usa Message-ID: <38o6ja$acl@news.tamu.edu> References: <3898qv$79u@news.primenet.com> Keywords: NEXTSTEP 3.3 Here's a fairly complete list of new features announced at expo. I reproduced this by hand from literature that was distributed then. Any inaccuracies (typos) are strictly my fault :) ------------------------------------------------------- NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.3 UPGRADE NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 incorporates enhancements based on feedback customers with large-scale NEXTSTEP environments (big suprise!). Release 3.3 addresses many critical deployment issues including scalability, robustness, interoperability, and ease of use. By incorporating core technologies from Mach 3.0 and BSD 4.4 networking, Release 3.3 operates more reliably and scales better to networks with tens of thousands of users. NeXTmail has been significantly improved in Release 3.3 to give users greater flexibility in how electronic mail is accessed and stored. in addition MIME support enables NEXTSTEP users to send and receive multimedia messages with users of other popular e-mail applications through the same intuitive NeXTmail interface. To make NEXTSTEP run on a wider selection of PC configurations, Release 3.3 includes support of PCMCIA, PCI and ISA Plug and Play, Advanced Power Management, 8 bit color, and many new peripherals The NEXTSTEP User Experience NEXTSTEP is the only object-oriented operating system available today. NEXTSTEP delivers a consistent graphical user interface across wide area networks such as NFS, Netware, and AppleTalk. NEXTSTEP unifies the desktop by providing interoperability between custom solutions developed for NEXTSTEP and applications written for the MS-Windows, X/Motif, and mainframe environments. ROBUSTNESS The smooth operation of a company depends on the uninterrupted service of its mission-critical applications. If a financial trading company cannot make trades for fifteen minutes due to a system down-time, it could lose hundreds of thousands in revenue. NEXTSTEP is designed to to service these mission-critical applications 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Hundreds of carefully chosen focused enhancements and improvements have been added throughout the system to increase the overall robustness of the operating system while ensuring backward compatability. This strategy enables NeXT to introduce new technologies to the NEXTSTEP community while providing a seamless and painless upgrade path. SCALABILITY Today's enterprise-wide deployment means tens of thousands of users on the same network across multiple routers and bridges. NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 includes critical technologies to enable large-scale networks and reduce support costs by allowing enterprise-wide deployment with a much lower ration of system administrators to users. For example, with the new UserManager, system administrators can now install and maintain large numbers of network user accounts quickly. With enhancements in NetInfo, NEXTSTEP ca n now support tens of thousands of network nodes. With NEXTSTEP Release 3.3, companies can grow their installation exponentially with ease without the need to increase system administration resources at the same pace. Release 3.3's system adminstration tools allow new system administrators to be productive with minimum training, and empowers experienced system administrators to maintain a large enterprise-wide network with greater ease. PERFORMANCE In a large-scale deployment with tens of thousands of users, productivity gains from overall system responsiveness and better tools means thousands of dollars in savings. By taking advantage of BSD 4.4 networking, NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 delivers better wide-area-network performance while technologies from Mach 3.0 enables NEXTSTEP to task switch more efficiently. By streamlining and accelerating frequently performed tasks such as finding, sorting, and addressing in NeXTmail, adding or deleting a large number of users in UserManager, bulk upgrading in Upgrader, and on-the-fly NetInfo backup and restore in NetiInfoManager, NEXTSTEP release 3.3 provide tools that enable users to work faster by working smarter. OPEN STANDARDS With Release 3.3, NeXT continues its commitment and willingness to adopt industry standard technologies to ensure interoperability, flexibility, and a high degree of collaboration between technologies from different vendors. MIME support enables NEXTSTEP users to easily exchange files and images with widely used PC and UNIX mail applications. The support of PCI and ISA Plug & Play greatly reduces the complexity of PC hardware configuration. PCMCIA, 8 bit color, and Advanced Power Management enables users t o operate NEXTSTEP on standard PC notebooks. EASE OF USE Just as performance gains translate into productivity gains, tools that enable new users to learn and operating environment quickly are equally important. In addition support costs can significantly lower if users are equipped to help themselves in times of trouble. Release 3.3 includes a new Quick Start Guide that enables new users to learn all the basics in 30 minutes; this tool greatly accelerates the learning curve of NEXTSTEP. Once these users are familiar with the basics NEXTSTEP, they can rely on th e Documentation Roadmap the provide pointers to all the documentation including comprehensive on-line help for most of the major applications that are bundled with NEXTSTEP. To empower those who are already familiar with the system, a new Power Tips manual provides many tips and shortcuts. These tools keep support and training costs low as the number of users and network nodes increases. New Features and Benefits MIME Support As a widely supported standard, MIME support enables NEXTSTEP users to exchange multimedia e-mail with other non-NeXT MIME users. Through the same intuitive NeXTmail interface, users can transparently read and send messages containing file attachments containing file attachments, rich text, images and sound objects. Mail Size Management Information such as the number of read and deleted messages, size of each message, and the number of new messages is now easily accessable. Users can also quickly locate large e-mail messages through the feature "sorting by size". These features greatly simplify the task of overall mailbox size management. Selective & Summary Printing Users can new print out the summary of an entire mailbox or a group of selected messages. This feature enables users to manages their e-mail messages off-line when necessary. Enhanced Searching In addition to searching by subject and sender, users can now locate mail by searching through the message body. A new "Focus" feature makes if more efficient to navigate ans view only the selected messages. After several iteration of "Find" and "Focus", user can quickly filter all non relevant messages. Save and Restore Drafts Similar to a word procssing document, partially composed unsent messages can be saved and brought back with subject and address fields intact. User can now begin composing multiple messages and use this feature to preserve work-in-progress to prevent accidental loss-or to conviently come back to it at a later time. Outgoing Message Archive In addition to automatic archival of all outgoing messages, users who are concerned with disk space can selectively archive specific messages. In-line Address Completion By typing the first few letters of an address in the "To" field and pressing ESC key, NeXTmail will automatically scroll through the possible options from the list of public and private users and groups.This feature reduces the number of keystrokes and frequency of access to the Address panel. Hierarchical Mailboxes Mailboxes in Release 3.3 can now be organized into a tree like hierarchy. Messages stored in a meaningfull structure of mailboxes gain relevance through their implicit association with folder names. Retreival of messages can also be faster by simply navigating through the heirarchy. User Defined Fields Custom fields can now be added to a message header to label outgoing messages. For instance, a user can define a field called "priority" and set it to "high" or "low". This allows recipients to quickly identify the importance of messages. New Productivity Tools The mail icon now displays the number of unread messages in the Active mailbox. In addition, users can manage the incoming mail workload by individually marking messages in any mailbox as read of unread. Netinfo The only proven enterprise-wide network administration database. NetInfo now supports 10,000+ nodes across wide-area networks shich enables corporations to grow their NEXTSTEP networks globally without sacrificing data integrity or network performance. Other new features include integrated DNS support and improved diagnostic messages. UserManager The tool for managing user accounts and user groups as been updated to support large corporate networks. With the new bulk add-an-delete feature, system administrators can manage thousands of users accounts using custom tmeplates and domain based settings. Support for international user accounts is also provided through templates. In addition, UserManager can be customized to perfor specific tasks through and API. This feature allows system administrators to add or override default functionalities to talor UserManager to the needs of their sites. NetinfoManger The graphical tool for accessing and manipulating NetInfo databases has been dramatically improved. Administrative tasks are simpler, allowing the system administrator to dynamically restart NetInfo services, save and restore NetInfo databases, or join NetInfo hierarchies. The user interface has been improved to ensure ease-of-use throughout the application. Searching in NetInfo data is more efficient with multi-domain and regular expression search. Remote Server management allows the system administrator to comprehensively manage resources from any part of the network. SimpleNetworkStarter The simple but powerful tool for setting up small networks of NEXTSTEP computers has been extended to include NetInfo configurations across subnets and SNMP configurations. All transactions are fully logged. The undo feature allows dynamic configuration changes. Netorking Commands NetInfo data can be accessed and manipulated via a variety of new and extended set of unix ulilities: niutil's new options provide a full set of data-management features including resync, rename and statistics options. nigrep, nifind, and nireport compliment the existing NetInfo utilities to provide full search and report capabilities in a multi-domain environment. BSD 4.4 Networking New gateway congestion and header prediction algorithms improve overall network performance, especially in large networks that include bridges and routers. In addition, IP Multi-Cast support has been added to provide the framework for multimedia networking. Mach 3.0 Core components of Mach 3.0 have been integrated into release 3.3 to improve the robustness and performance of the operating system, especially under heavy load. Intel Enablement PCMCIA NEXTSTEP users can now take advantage of PCMCIA modems, SCSI adaptors, LAN cards, and wireless networking cards both for portable and desktop systems. ISA Plug and Play On a system with the ISA Plug & Play BIOS, NEXTSTEP automatically configures ISA Plug & Play cards bypassing the need to deal with jumpers, switches and configuration utilities. PCI Plug and Play Similar to ISA Plug & Play, NEXTSTEP automatically configures PCI cards. Advanced Power Mangement By taking advantage of power saving features on systems that support the APM BIOS, NEXTSTEP now operates efficiently on portable systems for and extended amount of time. 720K floppies In additions to 1.44 megabyte floppy support, NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 also supports 720K. More drivers NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 comes bundled with over 50 drivers to support a wide variety of peripheral cards and systems. Installation and Upgrades Network Install Users can install NEXTSTEP through a network NFS server without requiring a CD-ROM drive. System adminstrators can also preconfigure a template server so that all systems built from the server will inherit the same configurations. This greatly reduces the overhead of installing NEXTSTEP at large sites. Network Bulk Upgrade The Upgrader application now enables system adminstrators to pre-configure "template servers" and propagate upgrades from these servers to designated NEXTSTEP systems. In effect this allows system adminstrators to "push" upgrades automatically onto systems on the network without the need for any user intervention. Learning Tools NEXTSTEP Quick Start By stepping through this small manual, users can quickly learn al the basics of NEXTSTEP and be productive within 30 minutes. Power Tips and Documentation Roadmap The power user's guide contains a comprehensive list of short cuts and tips for the Workspace and bundled applications. A new on-line and hardcopy roadmap helps novice users to easily and quickly navigate through the existing documentation. Internationalization Global Software NEXTSTEP can be customized at setup or installations time to provide global settings for keyboards, paper sizes, time zones, etc. This allows users to tailor their environment to specific local needs. Key globalization features include updates to Preferences.app and Configure.app. International Installation Users can now select which language needs to be installed at the "package" level. Instead of installing a specific language for all of NEXTSTEP, users have a choice of installing specific languages for each Installer package similar to Installer's support for different platforms. Users with limimted disk space can now have greater flexibility in the installation process. This feature applies to the Upgrader, CD Installation, as well as the Installer. =============================================== Enjoy! Ronald Pomeroy Senior EE - Smalltalk Stud/NEXTSTEP weenie Texas A&M University College Station, Texas rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu
From: marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Date: 27 Oct 1994 09:34:17 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Networks Message-ID: <38nom9$4de@palumbia.in-berlin.de> References: <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: >Hi. >I forgot to mention two things in the submission announcement: > 1. Source to Fiend 1.1 will not be made available Why? are there no more bugs to find in fiend? Henrik -- Henrik Hempelmann marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (NeXT/MIME/PGP-Mail) >> Why should I tidy my room, when the whole world is in a mess ??? <<
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Date: 27 Oct 1994 10:19:13 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38oct1$fqt@panix.com> References: <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> <38nom9$4de@palumbia.in-berlin.de> In <38nom9$4de@palumbia.in-berlin.de> marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann) writes: >dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: >>Hi. >>I forgot to mention two things in the submission announcement: >> 1. Source to Fiend 1.1 will not be made available > >Why? Three reasons. Reason #1: I have elected not to make it available. Reason #2: There are things in Fiend that took me weeks/months to figure out, and I don't feel the need to let everyone know these little tidbits. Reason #3: See Reason #1. >are there no more bugs to find in fiend? Bugs can be discovered without source code. I don't see the source to OmniWeb or Pastry anywhere either....does this mean that they are bug free? - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lembens@octagon.de (Dirk Lembens) Subject: Expiriences in Adaptec 2940 and Stealth 64 ? Message-ID: <1994Oct27.121119.4740@octagon.de> Keywords: SCSI, Stealth Organization: Octagon Computer+Kommunikation Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 12:11:19 GMT I want to buy a new PC for NEXTSTEP. Has anyone experiences with... ...the Diamond Stealth 64 graphics card (PCI, S3-964, 2-4MB VRAM) ? ...the Adaptec 2940 scsi controller (PCI) ? ...Pentium P90 boards from Intel or Asus ? I didn't find anything about these in the NeXTanswers. Please send any help to lembens@octagon.de. Thanks! --Dirk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: znih!dbhinz (David Hinz) Subject: Problem with cc-2.5.8 Message-ID: <1994Oct27.062555.3893@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: dbhinz@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 06:25:55 GMT Is there a problem with the cc-2.5.8 compiler knowing the default path of /NextDeveloper/Headers/g++? I just installed cc-2.5.8 and compiled a small "Hello World" program, but get an error that it can't find stream.h. If I use the old cc-2.2.2 compiler it has no problem finding stream.h. Also if I put an explicit include path in the compile line (cc -I/NextDeveloper/Headers/g++) then hello_world.cc compiles fine. Has anyone else seen this problem? Is there something I overlooked while moving around the old and new binaries, libraries, and include files? Also if someone would be kind enough to e-mail the cc-2.2.2 /lib/m68k/libcc.a library I would appreciate it. I seem to have removed it in the process of bringing in cc-2.5.8. Send e-mail before mailing the library so that I don't end up with 25 copies of it in my mailbox!!! Thanks, David Hinz dbhinz@znih.rmnug.org
From: speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 27 Oct 1994 16:02:59 GMT Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood City, CA, USA Message-ID: <SPETERS.94Oct27090259@samsun.us.oracle.com> References: <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> <Cy9qtn.E0H@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCyAtI3.CG9@netcom.com> <CyBKyw.1Br@utstat.toronto.edu> In-reply-to: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu's message of Thu, 27 Oct 1994 07:04:08 GMT In article <CyBKyw.1Br@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > In article <rwyattCyAtI3.CG9@netcom.com> rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) writes: > >I'm not sure I see where you are arriving at the $400 figure. Am I missing > >something? > > Operating costs. Software is a deductible item. I think Robert's point is that if you wish to consider that software is deductible for business, that means the effective price goes *down* for the commercial sector, not *up* for everyone else (which appears to be your logic here -- am I wrong?) Stephen Peters
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Message-ID: <CyC9xA.A2y@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 16:03:09 GMT In article <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: > Hi. > > I forgot to mention two things in the submission announcement: > > 1. Source to Fiend 1.1 will not be made available > 2. A triple fat version will be submitted as soon as possible Kudos to David for this great app! Fiend is one of my favorites. You have contributed a wonderful piece of work to the NeXT community! Thanks a lot, Volker -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) "It was micro, and it was soft..." Bill Gates' wife after the wedding night
From: freyrb@rhi.hi.is (Freyr Bergsteinsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mac to NeXT server fax. HELP Date: 27 Oct 1994 16:35:18 GMT Organization: University of Iceland Message-ID: <38oks6$6v6@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> I'm running a NeXT server and have a Mac as client. Is there a good solution to how to fax with a faxmodem on the server from the Mac? What software do I need? What type of net should I use? etc. etc. Thanks in advance, Freyr Bergsteinsson freyr@nextmenn.is (NeXT mail welcome) freyrb@rhi.hi.is
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: lacsap@sledge-hammer.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <1994Oct27.180131.11981@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1994Oct26.163024.14786@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 18:01:31 GMT In article <1994Oct26.163024.14786@midway.uchicago.edu> ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: > I'll point out that the Lexus/Nexus data search program (or whatever it is, I > don't use it), has made a killing by giving it away practically free to law > schools, and getting the users "hooked" on it so that they buy it when they > are working in a law firm... > > > -- That is Lexis and Nexis - Nexus is a hair product... You should also note that as products they made a "killing" not because they were made freely available to schools, but rather that they provided content that could not be gotten elsewhere. There are also known limits to Nexis generosity - our account we were using for experiments got pulled when they went a little overboard. NeXT has made a good effort to being nice to academia... and a number of interesting software packages have come from universities... However, that is not what will make NeXT a commercial success. Right now the 3.3 upgrade pricing is essentially noise. There is not much more functionality that is provided in 3.3 that should cause people to be hurting by running 3.2 ... or 3.1 Quite frankly $200 is not that much money if you think the features 3.3 offer are worth going through an upgrade. pasc
From: huang@kwainx.isc.umr.edu (Cheng-Chin Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Digitizer for NSFIP Date: 26 Oct 1994 15:40:23 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Distribution: world Message-ID: <38lt97$96a@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> Keywords: digitizer, frame grabber Is there any video digitizer( frame grabber) available for NSFIP? Maybe I should ask if there is any digitizer which can be accessed thru NSFIP. Any help will be very appreciated. --Tony Huang
From: gbeegle@nxtul110.wiltel.com (Chris Beegle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DOS Partitions Date: 27 Oct 1994 16:59:06 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <38om8q$iag@gateway.wiltel.com> Does anyone know why you can't write to your DOS Partitions? I am not logged in as root, that might have something to do with it.
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NETINFO and SENDMAIL HELL Date: 27 Oct 1994 19:11:23 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <38ou0r$6gf@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: broken mail Thanks to all who helped me overcome the Simple Network Starter hurdle to install a master Netinfo server. I managed to use SimpleNetworkStarter to install a master Netinfo server on one of our NeXTs without too much incident. However, mail broke very badly as a result. My address that still works is: penrose@grasshopper.ucsd.edu I just spent an hour with our campus Sendmail guru Brian Kantor, and we both came to the conclusion that there is some strange funny business with NX5.67d Sendmail. Unfortunately, Brian doesn't know much about NeXT's Sendmail hacks. I'd really really appreciate it if NeXT Sendmail gurus could lend a small hand. The problem is thus: After the netinfo change, only our new netinfo server, grasshopper, can directly receive mail. Our three other NeXTs can not. This is a problem as one of the NeXTs, wendy, is used by many people as a mail address. All four NeXTs run NeXTstep 3.1. For more info, carla, is our designated mailhost. It is a Sun running SunOs 4.1.3. Here is some mailer-daemon output resulting from attempting to mail our system wendy, from the system: silvertone.princeton.edu. It seems to indicate the same sendmail problem that Brian and I tried to debug. wendy keeps sending to mailhost instead of itself. >From MAILER-DAEMON@carla.ucsd.edu Thu Oct 27 13:35:31 1994 Received: from ucsd.edu by silvertone.Princeton.EDU (NX5.67d/1.113) id AA02149; Thu, 27 Oct 94 13:35:29 -0400 Received: from carla.UCSD.EDU by ucsd.edu; id KAA03321 sendmail 8.6.9/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Thu, 27 Oct 1994 10:35:27 -0700 for <penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu> Received: by carla.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3) id AA23636 for penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:36:52 PDT Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:36:52 PDT From: MAILER-DAEMON@carla.ucsd.edu (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Message-Id: <9410271736.AA23636@carla.UCSD.EDU> To: <penrose@silvertone> Status: R ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Connected to wendy.ucsd.edu: >>> DATA <<< 554 sendall: too many hops 19 (17 max): from <penrose@silvertone.Princeton.EDU>, to penrose@silvertone.Princeton.EDU 554 penrose@wendy... Service unavailable ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from wendy.ucsd.edu by carla.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3) id AA23634 for penrose@wendy; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:36:52 PDT Received: from sdcarla by wendy.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA09073; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:36:48 -0700 Received: from wendy.ucsd.edu by carla.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3) id AA23631 for penrose@wendy; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:36:49 PDT Received: from sdcarla by wendy.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA09067; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:36:45 -0700 Received: from wendy.ucsd.edu by carla.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3) id AA23625 for penrose@wendy; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:36:38 PDT Received: from sdcarla by wendy.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA09062; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:36:35 -0700 Received: from wendy.ucsd.edu by carla.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3) id AA23614 for penrose@wendy; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:35:12 PDT Received: from sdcarla by wendy.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA09052; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:35:08 -0700 Received: from wendy.ucsd.edu by carla.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3) id AA23611 for penrose@wendy; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:35:10 PDT Received: from sdcarla by wendy.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA09048; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:35:06 -0700 Received: from wendy.ucsd.edu by carla.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3) id AA23608 for penrose@wendy; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:35:07 PDT Received: from sdcarla by wendy.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA09044; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:35:03 -0700 Received: from wendy.ucsd.edu by carla.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3) id AA23603 for penrose@wendy; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:34:53 PDT Received: from sdcarla by wendy.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA09038; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:34:49 -0700 Received: from wendy.ucsd.edu by carla.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3) id AA23599 for penrose@wendy; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:34:45 PDT Received: from Princeton.EDU by wendy.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA09030; Thu, 27 Oct 94 10:33:32 -0700 Received: from silvertone.Princeton.EDU by Princeton.EDU (5.65b/2.114/princeton) id AA14368; Thu, 27 Oct 94 13:32:02 -0400 Received: by silvertone.Princeton.EDU (NX5.67d/1.113) id AA02143; Thu, 27 Oct 94 13:32:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 13:32:01 -0400 From: "Christopher Penrose" <penrose@silvertone.Princeton.EDU> Message-Id: <9410271732.AA02143@silvertone.Princeton.EDU> To: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu Subject: teste : from silvertone --- Also, none of the three clients can send mail to themselves: wendy# mail root@wendy fails. Brian and I worked on the problem. Below is some sendmail debugging output. He is truly baffled as to why the rules in my sendmail.cf file (see below) are being resolved the way they are. Wendy shouldn't be invoking mailhost when the mail needs to be sent to itself. In essence, wendy doesn't know what its hostname is. First mail -v output, then sendmail debugging output: wendy# mail penrose Subject: teste EOT Null message body; hope that's ok wendy# mail -v root@wendy Subject: teste EOT Null message body; hope that's ok root@wendy... Connecting to mailhost (etherl)... 220 carla.UCSD.EDU Sendmail 4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3 ready at Thu, 27 Oct 94 11:49:20 PDT >>> HELO wendy.ucsd.edu 250 carla.UCSD.EDU Hello wendy.ucsd.edu, pleased to meet you >>> MAIL From:<root> 250 <root>... Sender ok >>> RCPT To:<root> 250 <root>... Recipient ok >>> DATA 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> . 250 Mail accepted >>> QUIT 221 carla.UCSD.EDU delivering mail root@wendy... Sent -- now for sendmail output ---- /usr/lib/sendmail -v -d0-99.3 root@wendy < /etc/motd | mail brian@ucsd.edu --- Message 1: >From root@wendy.ucsd.edu Thu Oct 27 11:04:37 1994 Return-Path: <root@wendy.ucsd.edu> Received: from wendy by grasshopper.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA08131; Thu, 27 Oct 94 11:04:36 -0700 Received: by wendy.ucsd.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA10133; Thu, 27 Oct 94 11:04:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 11:04:35 -0700 From: <root@wendy.ucsd.edu> Message-Id: <9410271804.AA10133@wendy.ucsd.edu> To: penrose@grasshopper.ucsd.edu Status: R Version NX5.67d setoption v= setoption R= setoption A=/etc/sendmail/aliases setoption d=background setoption D= setoption F=0600 setoption g=1 setoption H=/usr/lib/sendmail.hf setoption L=9 setoption o= setoption Q=/usr/spool/mqueue setoption r=15m setoption s= setoption T=3d setoption u=1 setoption c=F setoption d= queuename: assigned id AA10127, env=1b0d0 queuename: xfAA10127 setsender() --parseaddr(root) rewrite: ruleset 3 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 0 input: "root" -----callsubr 9 rewrite: ruleset 9 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 9 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 0 returns: $# "etherl" $@ "mailhost" $: "root" rewrite: ruleset 2 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 2 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 22 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 22 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 input: "root" -----callsubr 9 rewrite: ruleset 9 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 9 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: "root" parseaddr-->1b0e4=root: mailer 3 (etherl), host `mailhost', user `root', ruser `<null>' next=0, flags=0, alias 0 home="(null pointer)", fullname="(null pointer)" rewrite: ruleset 3 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 1 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 1 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 input: "root" -----callsubr 9 rewrite: ruleset 9 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 9 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: "root" sendto: root@wendy ctladdr=[NULL] --parseaddr(root@wendy) rewrite: ruleset 3 input: "root" "@" "wendy" -----callsubr 6 rewrite: ruleset 6 input: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" ">" rewrite: ruleset 6 returns: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" rewrite: ruleset 0 input: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" -----callsubr 30 rewrite: ruleset 30 input: "root" -----callsubr 3 rewrite: ruleset 3 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: "root" -----callsubr 0 rewrite: ruleset 0 input: "root" -----callsubr 9 rewrite: ruleset 9 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 9 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 0 returns: $# "etherl" $@ "mailhost" $: "root" rewrite: ruleset 30 returns: $# "etherl" $@ "mailhost" $: "root" rewrite: ruleset 0 returns: $# "etherl" $@ "mailhost" $: "root" rewrite: ruleset 2 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 2 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 22 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 22 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 input: "root" -----callsubr 9 rewrite: ruleset 9 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 9 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: "root" parseaddr-->29bb8=root@wendy: mailer 3 (etherl), host `mailhost', user `root', ruser `<null>' next=0, flags=0, alias 0 home="(null pointer)", fullname="(null pointer)" recipient: 29bb8=root@wendy: mailer 3 (etherl), host `mailhost', user `root', ruser `<null>' next=0, flags=10, alias 0 home="(null pointer)", fullname="(null pointer)" queuename: dfAA10127 queuename: dfAA10127 EOH ----- collected header ----- Return-Path: <g> Received: ?sfrom s .by j (v/V) id i; b Resent-Date: a Date: a Resent-From: q From: q Full-Name: x Subject: Resent-Message-Id: <t.i@j> Message-Id: <t.i@j> Errors-To: ---------------------------- Adding Apparently-To: root@wendy >From person = "root" SENDALL: mode i, sendqueue: 29bb8=root@wendy: mailer 3 (etherl), host `mailhost', user `root', ruser `<null>' next=0, flags=10, alias 0 home="(null pointer)", fullname="(null pointer)" recipient: 1b0e4=root: mailer 3 (etherl), host `mailhost', user `root', ruser `<null>' next=0, flags=1, alias 0 home="/", fullname="(null pointer)" root in sendq: 29bb8=root@wendy: mailer 3 (etherl), host `mailhost', user `root', ruser `<null>' next=0, flags=10, alias 0 home="(null pointer)", fullname="(null pointer)" queuename: tfAA10127 queueing AA10127 queueing 29bb8=root@wendy: mailer 3 (etherl), host `mailhost', user `root', ruser `<null>' next=0, flags=10, alias 0 home="(null pointer)", fullname="(null pointer)" queuename: qfAA10127 --deliver, mailer=3, host=`mailhost', first user=`root' remotename(root) rewrite: ruleset 3 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 1 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 1 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 12 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 12 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 input: "root" -----callsubr 9 rewrite: ruleset 9 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 9 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: "root" remotename => `root' send to 29bb8=root@wendy: mailer 3 (etherl), host `mailhost', user `root', ruser `<null>' next=0, flags=10, alias 0 home="(null pointer)", fullname="(null pointer)" res_querydomain(mailhost, ucsd.edu, 1, 15) res_query(mailhost.ucsd.edu, 1, 15) res_mkquery(0, mailhost.ucsd.edu, 1, 15) res_send() HEADER: opcode = QUERY, id = 1, rcode = NOERROR header flags: rd qdcount = 1, ancount = 0, nscount = 0, arcount = 0 QUESTIONS: mailhost.ucsd.edu, type = MX, class = IN Querying server (# 1) address = 128.54.16.2 got answer: HEADER: opcode = QUERY, id = 1, rcode = NOERROR header flags: qr aa rd ra qdcount = 1, ancount = 1, nscount = 3, arcount = 6 QUESTIONS: mailhost.ucsd.edu, type = MX, class = IN ANSWERS: mailhost.ucsd.edu type = CNAME, class = IN, ttl = 86400, dlen = 20 domain name = localhost.ucsd.edu NAME SERVERS: UCSD.EDU type = NS, class = IN, ttl = 86400, dlen = 2 domain name = ucsd.edu UCSD.EDU type = NS, class = IN, ttl = 86400, dlen = 10 domain name = network.ucsd.edu UCSD.EDU type = NS, class = IN, ttl = 86400, dlen = 16 domain name = trout.nosc.mil ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ucsd.edu type = A, class = IN, ttl = 86400, dlen = 4 internet address = 128.54.16.1 ucsd.edu type = A, class = IN, ttl = 86400, dlen = 4 internet address = 132.239.254.201 ucsd.edu type = A, class = IN, ttl = 86400, dlen = 4 internet address = 132.239.1.1 network.ucsd.edu type = A, class = IN, ttl = 86400, dlen = 4 internet address = 132.239.1.20 network.ucsd.edu type = A, class = IN, ttl = 86400, dlen = 4 internet address = 128.54.16.3 trout.nosc.mil type = A, class = IN, ttl = 2771, dlen = 4 internet address = 128.49.16.7 unexpected answer type 5, size 20 root@wendy... Connecting to mailhost (etherl)... openmailer: "TCP" "mailhost" makeconnection (mailhost [128.54.176.2]) makeconnection: 11 reply 220 carla.UCSD.EDU Sendmail 4.1/UCSDPSEUDO.3 ready at Thu, 27 Oct 94 11:04:29 PDT >>> HELO wendy.ucsd.edu reply 250 carla.UCSD.EDU Hello wendy.ucsd.edu, pleased to meet you >>> MAIL From:<root> reply 250 <root>... Sender ok remotename(root) rewrite: ruleset 3 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 2 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 2 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 22 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 22 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 input: "root" -----callsubr 9 rewrite: ruleset 9 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 9 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: "root" remotename => `root' >>> RCPT To:<root> reply 250 <root>... Recipient ok >>> DATA reply 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself commaize(from: <root>) remotename(<root>) crackaddr(<root>) crackaddr=>`<g>' rewrite: ruleset 3 input: "<" "root" ">" rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 1 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 1 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 12 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 12 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 input: "root" -----callsubr 9 rewrite: ruleset 9 input: "root" rewrite: ruleset 9 returns: "root" rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: "root" remotename => `<root>' commaize(apparently-to: root@wendy) remotename(root@wendy) crackaddr(root@wendy) crackaddr=>`g' rewrite: ruleset 3 input: "root" "@" "wendy" -----callsubr 6 rewrite: ruleset 6 input: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" ">" rewrite: ruleset 6 returns: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" rewrite: ruleset 2 input: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" rewrite: ruleset 2 returns: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" rewrite: ruleset 22 input: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" rewrite: ruleset 22 returns: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" rewrite: ruleset 4 input: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" -----callsubr 9 rewrite: ruleset 9 input: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "LOCAL" ">" rewrite: ruleset 9 returns: "root" "<" "@" "wendy" "." "ucsd" "." "edu" ">" rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: "root" "@" "wendy" "." "ucsd" "." "edu" remotename => `root@wendy.ucsd.edu' >>> . reply 250 Mail accepted >>> QUIT reply 221 carla.UCSD.EDU delivering mail root@wendy... Sent Checking 29bb8=root@wendy: mailer 3 (etherl), host `mailhost', user `root', ruser `<null>' next=0, flags=51, alias 0 home="(null pointer)", fullname="(null pointer)" ====finis: stat 0 e_flags 1 dropenvelope 1b0d0 id="AA10127" flags=1 queuename: qfAA10127 queuename: xfAA10127 --- sendmail.cf ---- ########################################################### # # Sendmail configuration file for SUBSIDIARY NeXT machines. # # You should install this file as /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf if # your machine is a subsidiary machine (that is, some other # machine in your domain is the main mail-relaying machine). # You should not need to edit this file to customize it for your # network configuration. If you do, then you probably want to # use sendmail.main.cf. # # See the paper "Sendmail Installation and Administration Guide" # for more information on the format of this file. # # # local UUCP connections -- not forwarded to mailhost # The local UUCP connections are output by the uuname program. FV|/usr/bin/uuname # my official hostname Cwwendy Dj$?m $w.$m $| $w $. # major relay mailer DMether # major relay host DRmailhost CRmailhost CSsdcarl CScarl CSsdcarla CScarla CSsdfelix CSfelix CSwendy CSgrasshopper CSnellie CSincus CSplexus CSnexus CSmrbobo CSexpresso CSleland ############################################################ ##### ##### General configuration information ##### # local domain name # # This is now set from the resolver configuration call. If the domain # name you would like to have appear in your mail headers is different # from your Internet domain name, edit and uncomment the following to # be your mail domain name. # DmPodunk.EDU # Version number of configuration file DVNeXT-2.0 ### Standard macros # name used for error messages DnMailer-Agent # UNIX header format DlFrom $g $d # delimiter (operator) characters Do.:%@!^=/[] # format of a total name Dq$g$?x ($x)$. # SMTP login message De$j Sendmail $v/$V ready at $b ### Options # Remote mode - send through server if mailbox directory is mounted OR # location of alias file OA/etc/sendmail/aliases # default delivery mode (deliver in background) Odbackground # rebuild the alias file automagically OD # temporary file mode -- 0600 for secure mail, 0644 for permissive OF0600 # default GID Og1 # location of help file OH/usr/lib/sendmail.hf # log level OL9 # default messages to old style Oo # To Cc postmaster on error replies I generate, uncomment the next line # OPPostmaster # queue directory OQ/usr/spool/mqueue # read timeout for SMTP protocols Or15m # status file -- none # OS/etc/sendmail/sendmail.st # queue up everything before starting transmission, for safety Os # return queued mail after this long OT3d # default UID Ou1 ### Message precedences Pfirst-class=0 Pspecial-delivery=100 Pjunk=-100 ### Trusted users T root agent uucp ### Format of headers H?P?Return-Path: <$g> HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.by $j ($v/$V) id $i; $b H?D?Resent-Date: $a H?D?Date: $a H?F?Resent-From: $q H?F?From: $q H?x?Full-Name: $x HSubject: H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> HErrors-To: ########################### ### Rewriting rules ### ########################### # Sender Field Pre-rewriting S1 # None needed. # Recipient Field Pre-rewriting S2 # None needed. # Name Canonicalization # Internal format of names within the rewriting rules is: # anything<@host.domain.domain...>anything # We try to get every kind of name into this format, except for local # names, which have no host part. The reason for the "<>" stuff is # that the relevant host name could be on the front of the name (for # source routing), or on the back (normal form). We enclose the one that # we want to route on in the <>'s to make it easy to find. # S3 # handle "from:<>" special case R<> $@@ turn into magic token # basic textual canonicalization R$*<$+>$* $2 basic RFC822 parsing # make sure <@a,@b,@c:user@d> syntax is easy to parse -- undone later R@$+,$+:$+ @$1:$2:$3 change all "," to ":" R@$+:$+ $@$>6<@$1>:$2 src route canonical R$+:$*;@$+ $@$1:$2;@$3 list syntax R$+@$+ $:$1<@$2> focus on domain R$+<$+@$+> $1$2<@$3> move gaze right R$+<@$+> $@$>6$1<@$2> already canonical # convert old-style names to domain-based names # All old-style names parse from left to right, without precedence. R$-!$+ $@$>6$2<@$1.uucp> uucphost!user R$-.$+!$+ $@$>6$3<@$1.$2> host.domain!user R$+%$+ $@$>3$1@$2 user%host # Final Output Post-rewriting S4 R$+<@$+.uucp> $2!$1 u@h.uucp => h!u R$+ $: $>9 $1 Clean up addr R$*<$+>$* $1$2$3 defocus # Clean up an name for passing to a mailer # (but leave it focused) S9 R@ $@$n handle <> error addr R$*<$*LOCAL>$* $1<$2$m>$3 change local info R<@$+>$*:$+:$+ <@$1>$2,$3:$4 <route-addr> canonical ############################################################# ##### ##### Rewriting rules ##### # special local conversions S6 R$*<@$*.uucp>$* $@$1<@$2.uucp>$3 no change to UUCP hosts R$*<@$+>$* $:$1<@$[$2$]>$3 find canonical hostname R$*<@$*$=m>$* $1<@$2LOCAL>$4 convert local domain ############################################################ ##### ##### Local and Program Mailer specification ##### Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=rlsDFMmnP, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u Mprog, P=/usr/etc/smrsh, F=lsDFMeuP, S=10, R=20, A=sh -c $u S10 # None needed. S20 # None needed. ############################################################ ##### ##### Ethernet Mailer specification ##### ##### Messages processed by this configuration are assumed to remain ##### in the same domain. This really has nothing particular to do ##### with Ethernet - the name is historical. Mether, P=[TCP], F=msDFMuCX, S=11, R=21, A=TCP $h S11 R$*<@$+>$* $@$1<@$2>$3 already ok R$+ $@$1<@$w> tack on our hostname S21 # None needed. ############################################################ ##### ##### General code to convert back to old style UUCP names ##### S5 R$+<@LOCAL> $@ $w!$1 name@LOCAL => host!name R$+<@$-.LOCAL> $@ $2!$1 u@h.LOCAL => h!u R$+<@$+.uucp> $@ $2!$1 u@h.uucp => h!u R$+<@$*> $@ $2!$1 u@h => h!u # Route-addrs do not work here. Punt til uucp-mail comes up with something. R<@$+>$* $@ @$1$2 just defocus and punt R$*<$*>$* $@ $1$2$3 Defocus strange stuff ############################################################ ##### ##### UUCP Mailer specification ##### Muucp, P=/usr/bin/uux, F=msDFMhuU, S=13, R=23, A=uux - -r $h!rmail ($u) # Convert uucp sender (From) field S13 R$+ $:$>5$1 convert to old style R$=w!$+ $2 strip local name R$+ $:$w!$1 stick on real host name # Convert uucp recipient (To, Cc) fields S23 R$+ $:$>5$1 convert to old style ############################################################ ##### ##### RULESET ZERO PREAMBLE # Ruleset 30 just calls rulesets 3 then 0. S30 R$* $: $>3 $1 First canonicalize R$* $@ $>0 $1 Then rerun ruleset 0 S0 # On entry, the address has been canonicalized and focused by ruleset 3. # Handle special cases..... R@ $#local $:$n handle <> form # For numeric spec, you can't pass spec on to receiver, since rcvr's # are not smart enough to know that [x.y.z.a] is their own name. R<@[$+]>:$* $:$>9 <@[$1]>:$2 Clean it up, then... R<@[$+]>:$* $#ether $@[$1] $:$2 numeric internet spec R<@[$+]>,$* $#ether $@[$1] $:$2 numeric internet spec R$*<@[$+]> $#ether $@[$2] $:$1 numeric internet spec # now delete redundant local info R$*<$*$=w.LOCAL>$* $1<$2>$4 thishost.LOCAL R$*<@LOCAL>$* $1<@$m>$2 host == domain gateway R$*<$*$=w.uucp>$* $1<$2>$4 thishost.uucp R$*<$*$=w>$* $1<$2>$4 thishost R$*<$*$=w.$m>$* $1<$2>$4 thishost R$*<$*.>$* $1<$2>$3 drop trailing dot R<@>:$* $@$>30$1 retry after route strip R$*<@> $@$>30$1 strip null trash & retry ################################################ ### Machine dependent part of ruleset zero ### ################################################ # resolve names we can handle locally R<@$=V.uucp>:$+ $:$>9 $1 First clean up, then... R<@$=V.uucp>:$+ $#uucp $@$1 $:$2 @host.uucp:... R$+<@$=V.uucp> $#uucp $@$2 $:$1 user@host.uucp # non-local UUCP hosts get kicked upstairs R$+<@$+.uucp> $#$M $@$R $:$2!$1 # optimize names of known ethernet hosts R$*<@$+.LOCAL>$* $#ether $@$2 $:$1<@$2>$3 user@host.here # hosts in no domains are assumed to be local R$*<@$->$* $#ether $@$2 $:$1<@$2>$3 user@host # other non-local names will be kicked upstairs R$+ $:$>9 $1 Clean up, keep <> R$*<@$+>$* $#$M $@$R $:$1<@$2>$3 user@some.where R$*@$* $#$M $@$R $:$1<@$2> strangeness with @ # Local names with % are really not local! R$+%$+ $@$>30$1@$2 turn % => @, retry # everything else is a local name R$+ $#local $:$1 local names --- Please use penrose@ucsd.edu or penrose@grasshopper.ucsd.edu Chris Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What's new in 3.3? Date: 27 Oct 1994 20:02:25 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <38p10h$sl@rosie.next.com> References: <38mq18$nsu@news.xs4all.nl> In article <38mq18$nsu@news.xs4all.nl> hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl writes: > About the free NeXTTIME (no comments about the capitals): Which codecs > are supported? Does it know how to handle files that are not > self-contained or are not flattened (MS Windows always complains that > my quicktime movies should be self-contained and flattened). What about > the QT 2.0 features? The NEXTIME player application can open and play most QuickTime files, and supports Cinepak, Apple Video (Road Pizza), and JPEG video compression. Macintosh 8 bit sound at arbitrary sampling rates can be played back. Performance is quite good, with Cinepak compressed 320x240 movies playing at rates of up to 30 frames per second on Pentium class machines. Self-contained, or flattened movies are required, as NEXTSTEP does not include support for the Apple Alias Manager. Movies in native Macintosh format (seperate data and resource forks) can be played, unlike Quicktime For Windows. Movies can be played off Macintosh format CDROMs. Mike Paquette ====== I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal... mpaque@NeXT.COM NeXT business mail only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please "It's a bad neighborhood, but the rent is cheap."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: me@next.lnf.infn.it ("Earl C. Gero") Subject: A NeXTStep 3.3 question Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 18:54:59 +0000 Message-ID: <9410261844.AA00486@next.lnf.infn.it> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk I am thinking of updating my NeXTStation from 3.0 to 3.3. I have the full developer version of 3.0, so I was wondering whether or not there are any significant differences between the 3.0 and 3.3 developer package. In other words, if I bought the user update to 3.3, would I have any trouble using the 3.0 version of InterfaceBuilder and ProjectBuilder? Earl C. Gero Laboratori Nazionali di Frascati dell'INFN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Subject: Re: prev NeXT user using MAC... Message-ID: <Oct27.221603.63320@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 22:16:03 GMT References: <Cy87Jn.sn@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada In article <Cy87Jn.sn@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rsb2b@avery.med.Virginia.EDU (Ralph S. Buckley) writes: > I am a prior NeXT user who had to switch over to mac recently. > I am overall happy with the mac (PPC 7100), but miss a few > things about the NeXTstep environment and was wondering if > there were any mac/next users who knew of any extensions or > desktop accessories on the mac to do the following: > > 1. I like the browser for file searching much more than system > 7's file listing. Is there anything on the market like it? I agree. Look for "gregs browser" (spelling uncertain) on the Mac FTP sites. It is almost a clone of the browser-style mode of the WorkSpace Manager. It even has a shelf :-) I suggested it to several friends who use Macs, and now they no longer use the Finder at all. The only major missing feature (IMHO), is the ability to easily change CREATOR and TYPE settings for Mac files in the same way that the WorkSpace inspector can for the NEXTSTEP equivalents (i.e. renaming the file extension and Command-3 to change the default application), and I do not think it supports multiple browser windows. IMHO, "gregs browser" makes the Mac much more palatable (w/r the Finder - aacck! yuck!). -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: Rick.Reynolds@3do.com (Rick Reynolds) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: GS Corp. Are they still around Date: 27 Oct 1994 19:45:11 GMT Organization: The 3DO Company Sender: rreynold@blackknight.3do.com Message-ID: <38p007$lc2@badger.3do.com> References: <1994Oct24.182100.20943@cyantic.com> In article <1994Oct24.182100.20943@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: > Some time ago GS Corp announced a strategic move into the high-end > graphics/publishing move using Nextstep as the premier technology. > > Did anything ever come of it and are they still making an effort? > -- Haven't heard the latest on their stuff... but write to them at: info@goldleaf.com Rick Reynolds The 3DO Company
From: adh@news.ach.uams.edu (Alvis D. Harding Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Date: 27 Oct 1994 15:43:44 -0500 Organization: Arkansas Children's Hospital, Cardiac Imaging Distribution: inet Message-ID: <38p3e0$7p6@alvin.ach.uams.edu> References: <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <383fu3$i58@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <3891kt$f19@anshar.shadow.net> <38h2ji$fck@nntp1.u.washington.edu> sinan@u.washington.edu (Sinan Karasu) writes: >Waiting for Solaris 2.5 may be a good idea if you have a lot of money to >burn. The current deal of $495 will get you Solaris 2.4 for x86, ProWorks >with C and C++ and TeamWare, and Software Developers kit (with >motif developement stuff.) This package in regular prices cost I called SunExpress today and they said the price of the promotional offer was $695. They said there were errors in earlier announcements. :-( -Alvis -- --- --- ---- ---- ----- ----- Alvis Harding Jr. Arkansas Children's Hospital adh@george.ach.uams.edu Cardiac Imaging Center 800 Marshall St. Voice - (501) 320-3613 Little Rock, AR 72202
From: garnett@cco.caltech.edu (John W. Garnett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: driver for the NCR 53C810? Date: 28 Oct 1994 02:16:41 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <38pmu9$h3b@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I'm attempting to find out if Talus's NCR 53C810 SCSI driver supports the ASUS PCI SCSI-II card which uses the NCR 53C810 chip. I've sent email to Talus (info@talus.com and in response to one of their USENET postings) on two separate occasions (once months ago and once recently) and haven't received any response. Does anyone know if they are still around? I'm also interested in learning how much the driver costs. Are there any other NEXTSTEP drivers for the NCR 53C810 SCSI chip? Thanks, John Garnett -- -- John Garnett garnett@cco.caltech.edu garnett@gestalt.austin.tx.us (NeXT Mail)
From: dlisoski@scratchy (Derek Lee Lisoski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Using an Appleshare printer on NeXT with V3.2? Date: 28 Oct 1994 03:04:16 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <38ppng$j0o@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Apologies because I know this has been asked before, but I cannot remember (or find) the answer. I am using the NeXTStep V3.0 Appleshare package on a V3.2 machine to access our local Appletalk network machines and printers. This works about as well as it ever did, except that output to Appletalk printers (I am using the 3.0 PrintManager as well) does not make it to the printer, although it seems to disappear from the NeXT...what am I missing? Thanks! -derek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <CyD7G7.8o7@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <1994Oct26.163024.14786@midway.uchicago.edu> <1994Oct27.180131.11981@news.media.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 04:07:14 GMT Pascal Chesnais (lacsap@sledge-hammer.media.mit.edu) wrote: : In article <1994Oct26.163024.14786@midway.uchicago.edu> : ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes: : > I'll point out that the Lexus/Nexus data search program (or whatever it : is, I : > don't use it), has made a killing by giving it away practically free to : law : > schools, and getting the users "hooked" on it so that they buy it when : they : > are working in a law firm... : > : > : > -- : That is Lexis and Nexis - Nexus is a hair product... You should : also note that as products they made a "killing" not because they : were made freely available to schools, but rather that they : provided content that could not be gotten elsewhere. There are : also known limits to Nexis generosity - our account we were using : for experiments got pulled when they went a little overboard. : NeXT has made a good effort to being nice to academia... and a number : of interesting software packages have come from universities... However, : that is not what will make NeXT a commercial success. Right now the : 3.3 upgrade pricing is essentially noise. There is not much more : functionality that is provided in 3.3 that should cause people to : be hurting by running 3.2 ... or 3.1 : Quite frankly $200 is not that much money if you think the features : 3.3 offer are worth going through an upgrade. : pasc -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printing PostScript as 2up Date: 27 Oct 1994 07:06:41 -0700 Organization: runner Message-ID: <38oc5h$h72@runner.uucp> I have a 90 page PostScript file. How do I print it as 2up. (You know two document pages printed on one physical page.) Preview's page layout option is not available. Thanks -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
From: rpomeroy@atlantis (Ron Pomeroy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 28 Oct 1994 07:02:24 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Sender: rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu Distribution: usa Message-ID: <38q7m0$996@news.tamu.edu> References: <37s3kd$j68@crcnis1.unl.edu> <37sgs0$om7@network.ucsd.edu> <37snmd$nmg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> Keywords: DoomII Cumon' guys! It was a lot closer to home. Omni doin' the Doom thang! Pretty wonderful if you ask me :-) Ronald Pomeroy Senior EE/Smalltalk Stud/NEXTSTEP weenie Texas A&M University rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu "...It's in Microsoft's best interest if NeXT becomes sucessful because we'll give them something to copy for the rest of the decade." - Steve Jobs (talking to Bill Gates) .
From: kaoki@yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 28 Oct 1994 06:53:45 GMT Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan. Distribution: world Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Oct28155345@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> References: <Cy7u6o.7oE@utstat.toronto.edu> <38kkfj$ddo@News1.mcs.com> <Cy9t6M.IA8@utstat.toronto.edu> In-reply-to: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu's message of Wed, 26 Oct 1994 08:06:22 GMT I don't want to criticize any posting in particular; but I just want to point out to people who are crying murder. 1. Isn't NeXT still selling NS (incl. dev.) $300 for edu? (in the US) I would call that a great deal. Wouldn't you? I would not call this leaving academia in the cold. 2. The current 3.3 doesnt seem to include anything crucial so that not upgrading doesnt seem to be a big problem. 3. In the past, NeXT upgrade prices have been the same for commercial and edu. This is consistent with the current policy. 4. It *may* be that this is indicative of things to come and 4.0 upgrade will be prohibitively expensive for edu customers. BUT, we do NOT know. I would *wait* before we go into eternal loop of speculations. Take it ez , folks. -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN ... posting from kyoto....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: A NeXTStep 3.3 question Message-ID: <bchin.783305901@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <9410261844.AA00486@next.lnf.infn.it> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 00:58:21 GMT me@next.lnf.infn.it ("Earl C. Gero") writes: > I am thinking of updating my NeXTStation from 3.0 to 3.3. >I have the full developer version of 3.0, so I was wondering >whether or not there are any significant differences between >the 3.0 and 3.3 developer package. In other words, if I >bought the user update to 3.3, would I have any trouble >using the 3.0 version of InterfaceBuilder and ProjectBuilder? There is no 3.3 developer... user only. You will have to upgrade to 3.2 developer. If I remember correctly, there are no *major* differences between 3.0 and 3.2 developer. There's the addition of DriverKit for Intel, assorted enhancements (like compressed help, posix, etc.) and lots of bug fixes (enough to warrant upgrading). It's probably not a good idea to only upgrade to 3.3 user and use your 3.0 developer however. The upgrade isn't cheap however... At least NeXT has stopped charging people for *every* release between the release you have and the release you want to upgrade to. I know of machines still running 2.1 'cause it'll cost more than the machine is worth to upgrade to 3.2. -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Subject: Info on Sirius.com Message-ID: <1994Oct28.061342.22054@math.ucla.edu> Sender: news@math.ucla.edu Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 06:13:42 GMT Does anyone know how to get sirius.com to respond. I've sent email and left phone messages for purchase info on Checksum but they do not respond. Are they still in business? Sounds pretty flaky to me. C Dvorak cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Subject: Info on Sirius.com Message-ID: <1994Oct28.061544.22114@math.ucla.edu> Sender: news@math.ucla.edu Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 06:15:44 GMT Does anyone know how to get sirius.com to respond. I've sent email and left phone messages for purchase info on Checksum but they do not respond. Are they still in business? Sounds pretty flaky to me. C Dvorak cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
From: devesh@bombay.oracle.com (Devesh Khatu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrade 2.1 -> 3.2 on NeXT hardware, help! Date: 27 Oct 1994 18:29:12 GMT Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Distribution: ba Message-ID: <38orho$bri@dcsun4.us.oracle.com> Hi, I have a NeXTstation "pizzabox" running NeXTSTep 2.1 Basically I wasn't using it and didn't bother to upgrade earlier. But now that NeXT has released the Enterprise Objects Framework, I want a copy of that, and hence need to upgrade to NeXTStep 3.2. How do I go about doing this? DO they still ship copies of NeXTStep for the black hardware? Where do I obtain one? How much does an upgrade from 2.1 to 3.2 cost? Thanks for the responses. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox Devesh S. Khatu E-mail : devesh@us.oracle.com Technical Staff Phone : (415) 506-4488 Tools Division Fax : (415) 506-7228 Oracle Corporation M/S : 659412 xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
From: klar4000@fatmom.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Klaus Rappich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Reverse printing Date: 28 Oct 1994 10:53:38 GMT Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ Message-ID: <38ql7i$5k5@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Hello there, I have a problem with a HP Laserjet 4M printer on NS 2.1. Output is printed "face down" in wrong order.(last page on top) It's an ordinary ASCII-Textfile (3 Pages.) I checked in /usr/lib/transcript the ps* scripts and modified in psof ,the following line: 1. psof) exec psbanner $pname ; exit 0 ;; to psof) $REVERSE ; exec psbanner $pname ; exit 0 ;; Then I started the printjob. lpq says:Job ist active, /usr/adm/lpd-errs no ERRORmessage,/usr/spool/printer/status "printing",lock=ok .seq=ok. the printer don't do nothing,no output.in lpc:abort printer then start printer again,lpd started new.Dosn't work either. 2. psof) $REVERSE ; exit 0 ;; same as befor. 3. psof) $REVERSE ; exit 0 ;; changed back to psof) exec psbanner $pname ; exit 0 ;; 4. psif) exec $comm ;; modified to psif) $REVERSE ; exec $comm ;; Printer is printing but also in wrong order and very strange to. First page e.g two lines,than one blank page,then a half printed printed page and so on. In /usr/adm/lpd-errs I found this message: psbanner: next2:klar4000 Job: f1 Date: Thu Oct 27 13:45:55 1994 //usr/lib/transcript/psrv: file not reversible Changed the mod back,and I'm at the beginning again. Do anyone know that problem and/or have anyone a solution. I would greatly appreciate any help! Please email me directly if possible. Klaus Klaus.Rappich@zrz.TU-Berlin.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Can anyone in c.s.n.m Read this? Message-ID: <damonc.7.00139223@damonc.aetnacan.com> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Canada Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 00:34:07 GMT I apoligize, but we seem to be having outbound probs with our feed... If some kind NEXTSTEP soul could post a followup here, I'll know we are working... Thanks! Damon F. Cooper Aetna Canada
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Date: 28 Oct 1994 09:56:52 -0400 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Message-ID: <38qvv4$sgi@oclc.org> References: <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> <CyC9xA.A2y@qb.rhein-main.de> Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) wrote: : Kudos to David for this great app! Fiend is one of my favorites. : You have contributed a wonderful piece of work to the NeXT community! That goes double for me! And shame on the person who griped because Dave has elected not to distribute his source code - let's just be thrilled that he continues to upgrade and share this terrific app! Robin -- Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: rswillia@csc.com (Robert S. Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can anyone in c.s.n.m Read this? Date: 28 Oct 1994 10:06:08 -0400 Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation Message-ID: <38r0gg$36r@explorer.csc.com> References: <damonc.7.00139223@damonc.aetnacan.com> damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com (Damon F. Cooper) writes: >I apoligize, but we seem to be having outbound probs with our feed... >If some kind NEXTSTEP soul could post a followup here, I'll know we are >working... >Thanks! >Damon F. Cooper >Aetna Canada Made it to Virginia, anyway. Bob Williams
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Subject: You are going to *love* the #9 IMAGINE 128 card... Message-ID: <CyDv8n.qA@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: Hot Technologies Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:41:11 GMT Number Nine has a new 128-bit graphics card that will blow your mind. #9 IMAGINE 128 8MB VRAM: 24-bit (32-bit w/alpha) color at 1600x1200 @ 72Hz. $???? retail / $???? list 4MB VRAM 24-bit (32-bit w/alpha) color at 1152x864 @ >72Hz. $699 retail / $999 list This PCI card has a 128-bit data path between the controller and VRAM. It's the fastest card on the market: At SVGA resolution, it is 490% faster than 64-bit graphics cards and 861% faster than 32-bit cards. THIS CARD IS IDEAL FOR NEXTSTEP. According to PC Computing, they have a NEXTSTEP driver but it's unclear to me whether it will be available yet. Make sure you tell your NeXT sales rep and Number Nine that you want this driver now. Number Nine Corp. + 1 617 674-0009 Furthermore, be sure to check out the new Dell Dimensions which are shipping with the 4MB IMAGINE 128! Robert La Ferla HTI
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS garbage collection Date: 28 Oct 1994 16:18:41 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <38r891$dvi@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <38m225$5un@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> A few corrections... In article <38m225$5un@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > At last night's BANG Developers' SIG, Bertrand Serlet, NeXT's CTO(?), > discussed the Foundation Kit. The "?" after "CTO" was indeed my intuition speaking to which I should have paid more attention :-) Bertrand has pointed out that Jean-Marie Hullot is NeXT's CTO. Some of us Texas rubes just can't tell the difference between one Norwegian and another :-) My apologies to both. > In fact, an early prerelease of > OpenStep/Solaris will be ready for useability testing starting next week. I have been informed by a Sun engineer that this isn't strickly true. What Sun is working with now isn't really an early prerelease, but is based on a hybrid NEXTSTEP-X window server combination that permits Sun to run OpenStep apps (albeit someone slowly due to the combination window server overhead that won't be there in the release version) while the OpenStep window server is being completed. It may look and feel like OpenStep, but it's not really OpenStep, if that makes sense. Sorry for any misinformation I conveyed... --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: andrea.borroni@galactica.it (ANDREA BORRONI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DROP Message-ID: <89C94E3.0782000161.uuout@galactica.it> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 20:51:00 +0100 Organization: GALACTICA PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION - ++39-2-29.00.61.50 DROP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Subject: Byte Article: Whither Nextstep? Message-ID: <CyDzJM.wI@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla) Organization: Hot Technologies Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 14:14:09 GMT Bruce Webster has a not-so nice article about NEXTSTEP in the November issue of Byte. The article starts off okay and ends on a depressing note. It only figures that the one time Byte actually prints something about NEXTSTEP, it would be slightly negative... Robert La Ferla HTI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <rwyattCyE4My.1CJ@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <Cy9qtn.E0H@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCyAtI3.CG9@netcom.com> <CyBKyw.1Br@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 16:04:10 GMT In article <CyBKyw.1Br@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >In article <rwyattCyAtI3.CG9@netcom.com> rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) writes: > >[ ] > >>I'm not sure I see where you are arriving at the $400 figure. Am I missing >>something? > >Operating costs. Software is a deductible item. I still don't follow your logic on this one...An upgrade is $199. Write your check...Where do you come up with $400? And yes, it is deductible. But, how does that increase your costs? If anything it decreases the cost for business but doesn't raise yours. Then again, I don't profess to be an expert when it comes to economics and our demented taxes... >>I've only been out of college for one year...I don't think I'm that out of >>touch. So, don't pay $199 for the upgrade. Your loss...Not NeXT's. What >>do you expect NeXT to do? Offer you an upgrade at below their cost??? It >>costs them somewhere around $150 in licensing fees alone (estimated)! And >>no, my $1000 comment isn't out to lunch. You are just clearly one of those >>academic types who thinks they deserve everything for free just because >>they are in school or teach. NEXTSTEP User and Developer lists for around >>$4000, right? So, even at $1000, the discount is still tremendous. The >>point is, NeXT goes even further and sells NEXTSTEP at an almost unheard-of >>discount to the academic market. I don't know of too many companies that >>offer an 80+% discount on their software to academics. > >I do. One thing you seem to be forgetting is that the theory which >undelines most commercial development comes from research done in >universities, and for which we do not charge you a penny. Moreover, >students simply can't afford $199 costs for minor upgrades. The argument >that they don't have to upgrade is weak. It simply means they will have >to pay more for the next one, put up with bad serial driver, poor sound >support, etc... Well, first of all, 3.3 is a maintenance release. You aren't going to suffer without it, especially if you are just running NS on a machine in your dorm room. And, considering the licensing costs, etc., I don't think NeXT could go much lower. I do feel, however, that they should provide 3.3 free of charge to people who bought 3.2 in the last few months, for example. >>So, stop whining...If you really think NeXT should lose money to keep people >>like you happy, that's fine. And, if you don't want to upgrade as some >>kind of "protest", that's fine. Ultimately, you lose, though... > >It's not a protest. I'd rather spend my time with people of a different >nature than, for example, yourself. And what kind of people would that be? The whining academic sort who want everything for free because they are the "future"? (Before you flame the hell out of me, I don't mean *every* academic...we have at one point, however, all run into the type I am talking about) >Sure I'll be losing. I've been with >NS for a long time. I've encouraged many colleagues and students to go >for NS. It's really not that much of a loss in the sense that I am not, >nor do I believe in, this MCA stuff. Scientific Workplace has come on the >scene just in time to deal with a possible deletion of my NS partition. Good for you. Delete NEXTSTEP, don't use it, that's your business. And, if it really isn't much of a loss, why do you care in the first place? >I don't really feel it is in NeXT's interest to ignore students and academics. >We've been amongst their best public relations. I agree completely. But, offering a $4000 piece of software at $299 is hardly ignoring them. >I'm not whining. I'm simply stating my opinions. I assume that is still >allowed. Absolutely. >-- >Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) >philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu >[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...] -Rob rwyatt@netcom.com
From: mrg@loki.hsv.crc.com (Michael Gentry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Using Kermit and Z Modem Date: 28 Oct 1994 20:51:23 GMT Organization: Coleman Research Corporation Message-ID: <38ro8b$mm7@hobbes.crc.com> I use Kermit on my NeXT as a terminal program to communicate with the serial port/modem. Sometimes, I connect to a service (such as a BBS) which doesn't have the Kermit protocol available, but does have Z modem file transfer. Faced with the problem of downloading files, I finally stumbled onto a quite workable solution. Since I haven't seen this posted here before and thought others might be interested, I'll try to explain how to do it. First off, you'll need Z modem and Kermit installed on your system (I'm assuming you already know how to use Kermit to set your line, dial out, etc.). Then, in your ~/.kermrc file, place the following lines: define sz if = \v(argc) 1 FATAL {Usage: sz file ...}, - run sz <\v(line) >\v(line) \%1 \%2 \%3 \%4 \%5 \%6 \%7 \%8 \%9 , - echo, echo, connect define rz run rz <\v(line) >\v(line), echo, echo, connect The "define" sets up a macro in Kermit for "sz" and for "rz" (send and receive Z modem). To receive a file using Z modem, start the transfer on the remote end, escape back to Kermit, and enter "rz" and the Kermit prompt (it will automatically connect you to your service when the transfer is complete). To send a file using Z modem, start the receiver on the remote end, escape back to Kermit, and enter "sz <filename(s)>" at the Kermit prompt. You may enter up to 9 different filenames and may use wildcards. When the transfer is done, you are connected back to your service. N.B. - "rz" and "sz" must be in your PATH. What these two macros do is run (and suspend Kermit from running) Z modem, redirecting standard in/out to the serial port Kermit is using (that is what "<\v(line) >\v(line)" specify). Since Kermit is suspended from running while the Z modem command is executing, it never sees any of the serial line traffic that Z modem is generating. When Z modem is done, Kermit resumes execution and starts utilizing the serial line (oblivious to the fact that something used it earlier). I like this approach because I can run Kermit from the command-line in Terminal.app with a minimal amount of fuss/overhead. If anyone else out there has some interesting tips they would like to share, please e-mail me! -- Michael Gentry | Software Grunt | Caffeine Addict Coleman Research Corporation | 6820 Moquin Drive | Huntsville, AL 35806 E-Mail: mrg@hsv.crc.com | Voice: (205) 922-6000 | NeXTmail welcome
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Keystrokes for Jobs-in-the-box? Date: 28 Oct 1994 19:24:20 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <PJS.94Oct28122420@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> Something terrible has happened. I misplaced the file where I had saved the directions for how to produce the Jack-in-the box with SJ's head. Can some kind soul take pity upon me? -- --paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu ================================================================= Soap and education are not as sudden as a massacre, but they are more deadly in the long run. --Mark Twain =================================================================
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sun on OpenStep Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 21:17:29 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Distribution: world Message-ID: <941028211729.2771AACUB.malc@jeeves> References: <38m225$5un@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Just to put in a bit of advocacy... :-) Here's a snippet from csn.misc which is very heartening. To this I can add that this echoes the views of a Sun engineer I met on a NEXTSTEP/Objective-C training course a week or two ago. HP seems to be getting more proactive too. A colleague in this Department received an unsolicited phone call from one of the largest HP dealers in the UK last week, to inform him that NEXTSTEP is available on HP's workstations, and ask if he would be interested. Have fun, mmalcolm. Date: 26 Oct 1994 17:01:57 GMT From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Subject: NS garbage collection Reply-To: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc [...] And for those who may have wondered how serious Sun is about OpenStep, several attendees at the meeting with inside Sun contacts have confirmed that Sun is VERY SERIOUS about OpenStep. In fact, an early prerelease of OpenStep/Solaris will be ready for useability testing starting next week. Sun is looking for a few useability testers in the Bay Area and posted an announcement to comp.sys.next.? several days ago. However, the posting referred to DOE testing which didn't register as "OpenStep" with me. The word is that Sun needs or will be needing NEXTSTEP-experienced people to help with OpenStep/Solaris. Sun will be pushing OpenStep to the many Solaris and SunOS developers that already exist. This should be a VERY POSITIVE development for NEXTSTEP in general and should open up many new opportunities for OpenStep developers. I have already started receiving phone calls from traditional Sun headhunters and recruiters looking for NEXTSTEP-experienced people. So I think that the future market is bright for NS developers. Brush up on your skills. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 21:33:42 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <941028213342.2771AACUC.malc@jeeves> References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > I think this pretty much is the funeral dirge for NeXTStep in the general > student/consumer market. Computer savvy friends who are shopping around > for their next OS have told me that they would be willing to pay a premium > for NS if it's a big improvement over the others, but would not be willing > to pay "Big bucks" regardless of how good it is. I think $200 for a MINOR > upgrade constitutes big bucks. > Why does this mean the death of NEXTSTEP in academia?! What it means for me is that many edu sites, ourselves included probably, simply won't upgrade to 3.3 -- we'll wait for 4.0. From the list of improvements etc. I've seen, I'd say that $199 is a reasonable price to pay. Unfortunately we can't afford it -- heck, though, at the moment we couldn't afford it if it were $99. Does this mean we'll be abandoning NEXTSTEP, though? No! Of course not! Does the upgrade cost suddenly make the "competitors" technically any better? No! Of course not! NS 3.2 is going to stay way ahead of anything else for a long while yet, past the time when 4.0 comes out even. I'd love it if NeXT announced an edu discount on the upgrade, but I suspect they've done their sums. I don't think this means NeXT has *completely* forgotten the importance of the educational market -- if they had there wouldn't be the outstanding discount on the whole system. In order to remain in business, though, thy have to remain focussed on the market where they're going to earn real income. Let's face it, that's not academia. For me, I'm just about happy enough that NeXT provides $4000-worth of operating system and software (IMHO actually *worth* more than that, particularly when you take cost of ownership into account) for $299. I really wish they'd do more, and it's unfortunate that sometimes they tend to be blinkered rather than focussed, but let's not say they're ungenerous. > They could probably pillage their giant corporate customers with > this pricing scheme for a while, but eventually won't Chrysler and > Andersen Consulting balk at shelling out this much money per seat, > when they could get almost the same functionality in OS/2 or Win > NT for a fraction of the cost? > This is simply silly. There is no way you get the anything like the functionality of NEXTSTEP with NT, let alone OS/2. mmalcolm.
From: rpomeroy@atlantis (Ron Pomeroy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing PostScript as 2up Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 28 Oct 1994 22:26:16 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Sender: rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu Distribution: usa Message-ID: <38rtq9$2hr@news.tamu.edu> References: <38oc5h$h72@runner.uucp> Keywords: two up >I have a 90 page PostScript file. How do I print it as 2up. (You know >two document pages printed on one physical page.) Preview's page layout >option is not available. /NextDeveloper/Apps/Yap has the layout option. If you don't have Developer, I think the archives have an equivalent (maybe better) but I don't know if it also has the Layout option. Best of Luck... Ronald Pomeroy Senior EE/Smalltalk Stud/NEXTSTEP weenie Texas A&M University rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu "...It's in Microsoft's best interest if NeXT becomes sucessful because we'll give them something to copy for the rest of the decade." - Steve Jobs (talking to Bill Gates)
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/I as internet server ? Date: 28 Oct 94 20:13:09 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Oct28201309@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> If I want to run an tcp/ip server to supply usenet news, internet mail routing, ... to about 300 users, will a NS/I+Pentium-PC work ? How many simultaneous news reader or email reader (most text mail) can NS/I support with reasonble responding speed? Any experience is welcome. ps: I had configured some sparc servers. This time I want to try NS/I. Waht is the difference?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <1994Oct29.021949.14411@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: uchicago strn fanclub References: <38gnud$q9c@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <jpanicoCy79rw.DAE@netcom.com> <941028213342.2771AACUC.malc@jeeves> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 02:19:49 GMT You know, for all this debating, my current situation is not one that would vary if I were a corporation instead of a student. I'm planning on buying 3.3 when it comes out, but don't own 3.2 now. I doubt that many corporations would buy 3.2 and upgrade to 3.3 at this time period, and I know I won't. What does this mean other than I'm stuck using Linux for a couple more months? It means that people should just keep things in perspective. -- E. Larry Lidz -- ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu :: Profundity should be I've got too much work to worry about :: sought elsewhere. my computer. --
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Byte Article: Whither Nextstep? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 28 Oct 1994 20:50:50 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <38ro7a$4mq@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <CyDzJM.wI@hot.com> Robert La Ferla (Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com) wrote: : Bruce Webster has a not-so nice article about NEXTSTEP in the November : issue of Byte. The article starts off okay and ends on a depressing : note. It only figures that the one time Byte actually prints something : about NEXTSTEP, it would be slightly negative... Yea, Bruce Webster should have read the article in Information Week before he wrote his. (IW, Oct 17) It was written by Katherine Bull, and it's both accurate and positive. Except for one minor brain-fart: "Thus far, HP has ported NextStep to its 700-series workstations and made NextStep available on its Intel-based Vectra line of PCs. A NextStep port to HP's PA-RISC microprocessor architecture is under way." Uh, excuse me, but the 700-series *is* PA-RISC based. I forgive you, Katherine & editors. As for Webster's article, I thought the timeline at the bottom of the first page was great! It basically follows the pattern: "Next announces X. Next ships X. Next announces Y. Next ships Y..." This is great compared to "Microsoft announces X. IBM announces Y. Microsoft announces Z. IBM announces foo. Microsoft delays shipping X. IBM promises more features with Y. Microsoft announces that Z will ship next year. IBM announces foo may conform to standards set by Z, but not until Z ships and becomes a standard. Microsoft delays shipping X..." -- jham@unlinfo.unl.edu [microSoftWindows free]; /* If only we could de-allocated all of the resources it's consuming so easily. */
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fiend Dock Tip Date: 29 Oct 1994 00:43:27 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38sjtf$4v1@panix.com> Hi. Something I forgot to mention in the docs is that Fiend grabs app icons only if: 1. The app is on the Fiend Dock 2. The app is not on the Workspace dock - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com PS - The triple fat version 1.2 will be out in a few days.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla) Subject: Hardware recommendations? Message-ID: <1994Oct29.044444.4721@ccdd.com> Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 04:44:44 GMT I was wondering what hardware recommendations folks out there have. I'm particularly slanted towards performance rather than price. I'm interested, specifically, in hearing thoughts on: SCSI card Adaptec 2940 Adaptec 274x/284x Bus Logic 44xC Bus Logic 747s Bus Logic 445s DPT 3xxx PCI NCR 8xx PCI Video card Diamond Stealth 64 PCI Diamond Viper Pro PCI Miro Crystal 32s PCI Miro Crystal 40s PCI Number Nine GXE 64 Pro PCI Sound card Media Vision ProAudio Spectrum 16 Media Vision Pro Studio 16 Media Vision Pro Studio 32 Creative Labs SoundBlaster 16 Thanks in advance. -- Chris Cuilla Chris Cuilla Design & Development
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Message-ID: <CyFBpy.BMG@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <1994Oct29.044444.4721@ccdd.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 07:34:40 GMT Chris Cuilla (ccuilla@ccdd.com) wrote: : I was wondering what hardware recommendations folks out there have. : I'm particularly slanted towards performance rather than price. : I'm interested, specifically, in hearing thoughts on: : SCSI card : Bus Logic 747s Mine is running fine on an AMI Enterprise IV using Tomas Hurka's driver. I could only get my Micropolis 2117 to boot as ID#1 until I extermally terminated it with an active terminator. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Disappearing HOME directory icon after move to NFS Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 12:46:21 GMT Message-ID: <1994Oct27.124621.644@cyantic.com> Recently we moved some of our users' HOME directories to a Sun server. Functionally, everything is fine but the users' HOME directory no longer is represented by the "House" icon in the WorkSpace either on the shelf or when the home directory is selected. Where did it go? Or rather, where was it in the first place? -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: marc@surfboy.ucsd.edu (Marcus S. Day) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 28 Oct 1994 23:13:40 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <38s0j4$bee@network.ucsd.edu> References: <38kkfj$ddo@News1.mcs.com> In article <38kkfj$ddo@News1.mcs.com> hendryj@mcs.com (Jonathan Hendry) writes: ..snip > Oh please. > > "NS will die without new academic, especially student, blood" > > How, pray tell, is "new academic... blood" supposed to be NeXT's saving > grace, when that same academic blood refuses to pay even a tiny fraction > of the list price? I mean hell, the academic market bitches about *Apple*'s > prices for System 7, for cryin' out loud. > > Yes, the stingiest, whiniest market in the Universe is going to save NeXT > from the jaws of Chapter 11. Yeah. That's the ticket. All those academic > purchasers are the key to a healthy 3rd party market, right? Just as long > as those third parties can survive on $20 programs. That a tiny fraction > of the academic market will even buy. > Not only are you missing the point, you come across as a real a_shole! Backoff a little on the 'tude, unless you'd like to turn this into dick-size comparison--then take it somewhere else (alt.sex.big.dicks?) The issue seems to be whether it makes any sense for those academia to pay anything more than media price for the upgrades. The fact is that $200 isn't squat compared to the development costs, and doesn't really go that far for NeXT. The benefit to such a scheme is that newly graduated students will (hopefully) go on to businesses where they will demand the NeXTSTEP envronment. For a company, plunking down a couple grand isn't squat to start up a new hire, if they know he/she can get right to work, and will be happy. Bottom line...make a nice piece of software, and moeny will come. (of course in the world of red turbo Maserati's and stuff-your-neighbor-if- it'll-make-you-richer, maybe the philosphy is dated?)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Message-ID: <1994Oct28.172607.2588@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado References: <38qvv4$sgi@oclc.org> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 17:26:07 GMT Robin Hermance-Moore writes > Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) wrote: > > : Kudos to David for this great app! Fiend is one of my favorites. > : You have contributed a wonderful piece of work to the NeXT community! > > That goes double for me! And shame on the person who griped because > Dave has elected not to distribute his source code - let's just be > thrilled that he continues to upgrade and share this terrific app! > > Robin > -- A few months ago, at my request, David told me that I was one of 2 people who had sent the very gently suggested appreciation fee of $10.00. Fiend is getting a lot of good reviews, and it deserves them. If David were to receive some cash he might feel more certain that his work is appreciated. I hungry man walked down a road. He came to a fruit tree. He ate. He saw that the tree needed water. There was a well nearby. What did he do? What would you do? -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: Re: prev NeXT user using MAC... Message-ID: <CyF2q5.nI@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong References: <Cy87Jn.sn@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 04:20:28 GMT rsb2b@avery.med.Virginia.EDU (Ralph S. Buckley) writes: >I am a prior NeXT user who had to switch over to mac recently. >I am overall happy with the mac (PPC 7100), but miss a few >things about the NeXTstep environment and was wondering if >there were any mac/next users who knew of any extensions or >desktop accessories on the mac to do the following: >1. I like the browser for file searching much more than system >7's file listing. Is there anything on the market like it? try gui/gregs-browser-20.hqx in info-ma its somehow simulate the browser view. But I prefer the gui/menu-choice-XX.hqx, its the Mac way of living. >2. I like being able to hide apps by pressing command h >instead of going up to the top right on the mac and hiding the >app. >Any help would be most ap[preciated. >e-mail me at rbuckley@virginia.edu >--Ralph >-- >______________________ >Ralph Buckley >University of Virginia
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: appnmail question Date: 29 Oct 1994 11:56:41 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <38trbp$5j6@panix.com> Hi. I've been using Carl Edman's appnmail lately, and it seems to work very well, with the exception that I can't seem to get it to mark new messages as unread. Could anyone point out what I might be doing wrong? (BTW - I am calling appnmail with no flags, it is in /usr/local/bin, and it is owned by root). Thanks. - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 29 Oct 1994 19:23:00 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <38u7ek$21l@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <38s0j4$bee@network.ucsd.edu> In article <38s0j4$bee@network.ucsd.edu> marc@surfboy.ucsd.edu (Marcus S. Day) writes: > The benefit to such a scheme is that newly graduated students > will (hopefully) go on to businesses where they will demand the NeXTSTEP > envronment. New employees fresh out of school are at the bottom of the totem pole. The fallacy in your argument is that students can immediately influence their employer's operations. This just doesn't happen in most cases. Even after being with a company long enough to command some influence, companies react to the preferences of their customers in most cases. And customers are very conservative preferring to remain with an outdated, but known, entity rather than risking change for a supposedly superior solution. NS was introduced when I was in grad school. My university bought 1 NeXTcube so that C.S. faculty and students could check out the new system. I thought it was wonderful compared with the other current (1988) UNIX offerings, but few in the C.S. department agreed, so the system languished almost unattended and never upgraded from NS 1.0 :-( But I bought a system because I planned to become a UNIX programmer and thought that I would be able to show my new employer the future, NeXTstep (circa 1988 spelling :-) But even though I was hired by a developer only 50 miles from NeXT's headquarters in the heart of C.S. heaven :-) NeXTstep wasn't commercial, System V-based UNIX. None of my employer's customers had ever heard of NeXT and didn't want to take a chance on a new company preferring to remain with known companies like IBM, NCR, AT&T, DEC, and SCO. So the value of lots of students who are NS-fluent affecting sweeping changes in the industry is almost nil. But NS-fluent graduates will be able to get good jobs with companies who are already using NS. The number of these companies should increase considerably when OpenStep/Solaris is released so learning NS *on your own* without huge subsidies from NeXT in the form of academic discounts should pay off well in the future. So if you want to become a NS programmer and have a lot of fun rather than a boring Windows, Mac, System V/Motif, etc. programmer, invest in your own future. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Byte Article: Whither Nextstep? Date: 29 Oct 1994 19:30:57 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <38u7th$23f@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <CyDzJM.wI@hot.com> In article <CyDzJM.wI@hot.com> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes: > Bruce Webster has a not-so nice article about NEXTSTEP in the November > issue of Byte. The article starts off okay and ends on a depressing > note. It only figures that the one time Byte actually prints something > about NEXTSTEP, it would be slightly negative... > I haven't read the _Byte_ article, but I would certainly pay attention to what Bruce writes because he wrote the first book about NS, _The NeXT Book_, published in 1989. He was intimately familiar with NS at that time and I believe he is still at Pages so he probably remains intimately familiar. He has as long a historical perspective on NeXT as anyone outside of NeXT. However, I have always wondered about Pages. They seem to have had a very difficult birth of their NS product which seemed to take far longer to produce than I expected. Bruce may be a little bitter about NS because of his Pages experience. But this is all conjecture on my part because I have absolutely no inside knowledge about Pages, Bruce, etc. (Maybe I should have just bit-bucketed this posting...) --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 16:10:07 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <IigekTa00iVG01fsgU@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <38s0j4$bee@network.ucsd.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 28-Oct-94 Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Ac.. by Marcus S. Day@surfboy.uc > The issue seems to be whether it makes any sense for those academia to pay > anything more than media price for the upgrades. The "media price" is about $20, including 2 or 3 CD-ROM's, a 3.5" floppy disk, and associated packaging. However, NeXT would go bankrupt immediately trying to provide upgrades at that cost, because they NeXT owes some level of royalties to other companies for every copy of NEXTSTEP sold. A reasonable estimate for these royalties is on the order of $100 - $150 dollars for a new license, and (presumably) less for upgrades. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrading to 3.3 Date: 29 Oct 1994 20:10:44 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <38ua84$tta@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Does anyone know if this upgrade offer applies to 3.0 owners too? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: wlod@mcs.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Date: 29 Oct 1994 20:32:24 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <38ubgo$1r8@News1.mcs.com> References: <1994Oct28.172607.2588@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> In article <1994Oct28.172607.2588@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) writes: > Robin Hermance-Moore writes > > A few months ago, at my request, David told me that I was one of 2 > people who had sent the very gently suggested appreciation fee of > $10.00. Fiend is getting a lot of good reviews, and it deserves them. > If David were to receive some cash he might feel more certain that > his work is appreciated. > This is the first version that included a mail address for Dave. Weak excuse, but with the address and the stronger suggestion, I sent mine a few days ago. I do agree heartily with your sentiment though. -- --Steve Wlodkowski wlod@mcs.com (NeXT mail welcomed)
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 29 Oct 1994 16:24:38 -0600 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <38ui36$2ki0@argo.unm.edu> References: <Cy7t2M.5sB@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCy95I4.5Br@netcom.com> <38ld2u$kvf@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> <rwyattCyB9KM.90L@netcom.com> In article <rwyattCyB9KM.90L@netcom.com>, Robert Wyatt <rwyatt@netcom.com> wrote: >In article <38ld2u$kvf@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> pajarola@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Pajarola) writes: >> >>> Rob writes: >>> I can't believe people are complaining about a $199 academic upgrade. Sure, >>Sure it is too much, hey, only for an update !!! Come on, folks. Outside of Tyler Gingrich, I'm one of the most fanatical NeXTStep supporters I know, and even I don't like the price increase. I can't believe NeXT's costs have gone up that much on the upgrades. >>> you got a great deal originally ($299), but what do you expect NeXT to do? >>> Lose money??? NeXT doesn't have to sell NEXTSTEP at an 80% discount to >>> students. They could charge $1000 and you'd still be getting a deal - but >>WHAT ??? You're crazy, 1000$, that's way too much, not worth it ... I'm paying for an upgrade, not a new piece of software. If I paid my license fees for Postscript, Webster's, etc., why would NeXT be losing money by selling an upgrade to me at a lower cost? They're not buying new licenses for me. New license fees should not be an issue. If they are, NeXT needs to renegotiate their licensing arrangements (I hope they do that on a regular basis anyway). >If you don't believe that the NEXTSTEP user and developer environment and >tools are worth $1000, why are you using it in the first place??? I suppose the real issue here is whether or not NeXT wants people in the academic community to use their products. If they don't, they can decide that they don't need to offer them for prices that are accessible to the average student. If they do, they need to make sure that the price of NeXTStep is well within the realms of the student budget. Whether anyone thinks NeXTStep is worth $1000 does not pertain. Whether NeXT's academic audience can pay the initial cost of NeXTStep is more important. Raising the cost of academic upgrades does not help students buy NeXTStep. >I assume you want NeXT to *lose* money and sell you the upgrade for $5 or >something...sure...to hell with the licensing fees...as long as we keep >the academics happy...Some of you don't realize what a good deal you have >I think... NeXT needs to balance two goals: 1. Get NeXTStep into the academic community. The long term payback for a NeXTStep-aware student community is huge. IBM thinks the academic community is important. SGI thinks so. DEC thinks so. Microsoft thinks so. Apple thinks so. All of these companies and many others offer their products at close to their cost to the academic community because it is an investment in their market with a tremendous payoff. In the end, it's all about market share and unit sales, or MS wouldn't sell NT clients for $35 (yep, they do). 2. Make money. That means they need to charge enough to cover their costs and any retail sales they might be losing as a result of the academic pricing, offset by some estimated payoff from getting NeXTStep out there. >>Renato > >-Rob Whether or not I'm grateful for NeXT offering NeXTStep to the academic community for far below the retail cost (I suppose I am) is not the issue where NeXT's academic pricing is concerned. What's more important is that by raising prices NeXT makes themselves less attractive to academia. NeXT doesn't need a bunch of students that have heard NeXTStep is great but have never used it. NeXT needs an academic community that has used NeXTStep, loves it, and recommends it in the commercial world. Academic NeXTStep is not the place to raise their prices. $75.00 is a good upgrade price for the academic user version of NeXTStep. $199.00 won't gross nearly as high a dollar value in upgrades, and costs NeXT some brand loyalty in the academic arena. That's the bottom line, not whether we should all be properly grateful. Come on, NeXT! Make it easy for us to evangelize! Dave
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 30 Oct 1994 04:04:08 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <38v5vo$62v@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <38ui36$2ki0@argo.unm.edu> $199 is high compared to the original purchase cost ($299). But, if you need new and improved drivers, $200 for the 2-3 new drivers is also what talus charges. If you do not need 3.3's new drivers, staying with 3.2 is a reasonable option. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: maeu0530@w271zrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (Hans-Joach Maeusle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Net Rendering I wonder if anyone has experience in distributing Renderman-Calculations on Date: 30 Oct 1994 06:40:44 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <38vf5c$3t1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ Keywords: Cc:
From: philip@cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 30 Oct 1994 07:55:37 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dept, U of Witwatersrand Message-ID: <philip-3010940955130001@mackerel.cs.uct.ac.za> References: <38ui36$2ki0@argo.unm.edu> <38v5vo$62v@news.mic.ucla.edu> In article <38v5vo$62v@news.mic.ucla.edu>, ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) wrote: > $199 is high compared to the original purchase cost ($299). But, if you > need new and improved drivers, $200 for the 2-3 new drivers is also what > talus charges. If you do not need 3.3's new drivers, staying with 3.2 is > a reasonable option. Is this still the edu price? What is included in the deal? Are there site licenses/multiple license deals? Is there a good X server for NeXT these days? How easy is it to use the interface tools etc. from C++? -- Philip Machanick philip@cs.wits.ac.za Department of Computer Science, University of the Witwatersrand 2050 Wits, South Africa (at University of Cape Town 4 July-7 Nov) phone 27(11)716-3309 fax 27(11)339-7965
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <bchin.783492364@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <IigekTa00iVG01fsgU@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 04:46:04 GMT Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 28-Oct-94 Re: 3.3 Upgrade >Pricing (Ac.. by Marcus S. Day@surfboy.uc >> The issue seems to be whether it makes any sense for those academia to pay >> anything more than media price for the upgrades. >The "media price" is about $20, including 2 or 3 CD-ROM's, a 3.5" floppy >disk, and associated packaging. However, NeXT would go bankrupt >immediately trying to provide upgrades at that cost, because they NeXT >owes some level of royalties to other companies for every copy of >NEXTSTEP sold. >A reasonable estimate for these royalties is on the order of $100 - $150 >dollars for a new license, and (presumably) less for upgrades. Reading all the sentiments that are floating around, I find myself agreeing to most of them. First, does anyone know for sure whether or not NeXT has to pay royalties for DPS, Renderman, etc. again? If not, and I certainly hope not (for products that haven't changed), then NeXT has to cover development, QA, and production costs. I feel that NeXT should cover all three for academic purchasers but not make a profit on it. Is $199 break even for all three? I don't know. Assuming it takes 50 people 9 months of 50 hours/week to produce NS 3.3, that's 90k hours, that's $4.5 million in just labor costs at $50/hour. Add some overhead, production costs, it's easily $6-7 million. NeXT will have to sell around 35k 3.3 upgrades @ $200 to break even. Of course, I'm most likely wildly off, but this should show the range of costs that NeXT has to charge in a small market (~100k). If NeXT could count on selling, say, 200k upgrades, then the cost per upgrade could drop dramatically. When Microsoft upgrades DOS, spending maybe $60-80 million (wild guess) and is pretty much guaranteed that 30 million upgrades will be purchased, then they only have to charge $2-3 to break even. I'm sure if they could cut out the floppy duplication (CD-ROM is cheaper over such massive quantities), then Microsoft could make even more. So if Microsoft charges $10 for the upgrade, they make $210 million. Even if my numbers are way off, I think you get the picture. My suggestion to NeXT is that they offer non-media upgrade licenses for $50 off. Also, offer bundle packs where there's only one copy of the media and manual but licenses for a bunch of machines for $50 per license off. Allow schools to purchase bundle packs to be resold to students. Students would have to bring a drive/machine for it to be built with 3.3, but it'll cost much less. After all, it's probably better to get twice the number of people to upgrade and charge half the price. Another way would be to state (promise) that it's NeXT policy that one can always upgrade to the latest version in one hop... only one upgrade price no matter what version one is upgrading from. In that case, if you can't afford it, skip this rev and upgrade to 3.4 or 4.0 or whatever the next version is. After all, that will hopefully be only another 9-12 months. Finally, NeXT should offer a program whereby if you purchase NEXTSTEP 3.2 after November 1st, no matter who the reseller is, one can get the upgrade to 3.3 for free or nominal cost. That would prevent people from stopping the purchase of 3.2 in November and December. I'm sure NeXT could use the money this quarter. Just some thoughts... -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: appnmail question In-Reply-To: dcl@panix.com's message of 29 Oct 1994 11:56:41 -0400 To: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Oct29191115@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <38trbp$5j6@panix.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 23:11:15 GMT In article <38trbp$5j6@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes: I've been using Carl Edman's appnmail lately, and it seems to work very well, with the exception that I can't seem to get it to mark new messages as unread. Could anyone point out what I might be doing wrong? (BTW - I am calling appnmail with no flags, it is in /usr/local/bin, and it is owned by root). Your fault is probably that you use the latest public release of appnmail which contains an evil nasty bug which manifests only on little endian machines. Somehow the line which swaps the magic number of the table of contents from network byte order to local byte order duplicated itself with the effect that no swapping is done regardless of byte orders involved. Look for a version which fixes this bug as well as adding support for Mail.app 3.3 enhancements some time next week. Carl Edman
From: kuocy@tan.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 30 Oct 1994 14:57:39 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Message-ID: <390c93$6hv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <38ui36$2ki0@argo.unm.edu> <38v5vo$62v@news.mic.ucla.edu> <philip-3010940955130001@mackerel.cs.uct.ac.za> Can we use a academic version for commercial use ? If not, why pay for the same price ? If driver cost money, can we just pick up what we need and only pay for that ? Chun-Yen
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: afmmaker Date: 30 Oct 1994 09:27:10 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410301524.AA04785@estel.uindy.edu> Hi, I'm trying to use afmmaker.ps from the archives. (I have some Type-1 fonts.. Aquiline, and Corporate Condensed. I haven't been able to find these in 'NeXT' form, so I'm attempting to convert them from the Mac-format I bought them in... Anybody seen them in NeXT form?) Anyway... back to afmmaker: the 'readme' says: > b. Then, create an afm file using 'afmmaker.ps'. To > use this program, you need another program called "psh" > which also can be found in NeXT archives. Use your > favorite editor to put some necessary information into > 'afmmaker.ps'. You have to give the name of the font, > encoding scheme, full name, family name, etc. To find > out the details of these, please refer to the AFM > specification document. Actually, the specification says > some of these information are optional. However, > 'buildafmdir' (see below) wants them. In your shell > window, please run the following command. > > psh afmmaker.ps > ABC.afm > > This will create a bare-bond AFM file with information > about character widths and bounding boxes. However, > the file does not include any kerning information. This, > as well as other optional information, should be added > by hands. Check the AFM file if it contains any error > message starting with "%%[ Error:...." which means > 'afmmaker.ps' has failed in some way. Great! but I can't find 'psh' anywhere! Is this still right? If so ... does anybody know where I can find 'psh'? thanks! -steve --------------------------< cut here >---------------------------- Steve Spicklemire (317) 788-3313 steve@estel.uindy.edu Dept of Physics and Earth-Space Science NeXTmail Welcome! University of Indianapolis 1400 East Hanna Avenue, Indpls. IN, 46227
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 10:53:32 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Iigw5wq00iV_014bki@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <bchin.783492364@news.andi.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 30-Oct-94 Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Ac.. by Bill Chin@nextsrv1.andi. > >A reasonable estimate for these royalties is on the order of $100 - $150 > >dollars for a new license, and (presumably) less for upgrades. > > Reading all the sentiments that are floating around, I find myself > agreeing to most of them. First, does anyone know for sure whether > or not NeXT has to pay royalties for DPS, Renderman, etc. again? No one who knows "for sure" is free to discuss this issue due to non-disclosure agreements-- NeXT and the other companies involved have their a right to corporate privacy with regard to their business relationships. > If not, and I certainly hope not (for products that haven't changed), The components being licensed with NEXTSTEP often _do_ change. For example, every version of NEXTSTEP I've seen released has had a new version of Display PostScript. Q: Does this mean that NeXT has to pay Adobe for this? A: Probably. It depends on the exact terms of the contract. Q: How much? A: No one who knows "for sure" can tell us, although it's presumably less than the cost for a new license for DPS. Q: How much are the royalties on a new NEXTSTEP license? A: Around $150, plus or minus. (Source: private information from various people I've known, at NeXT and elsewhere. You may judge its reliability for yourself.) Q: How much of these $150 in royalties does NeXT owe for a license upgrade? A: I don't know, but it's between nothing and $150. My guestimate is around $25 to $50. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz (Oren Golan) Subject: Hebrew fonts for NeXT Message-ID: <CyI9uJ.33y@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 21:47:07 GMT Hi. Does anyone know if there are any Hebrew fonts (or even better - a hebrew word-processor) available for the NeXT ? Thanks, Oren. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oren Golan Computer Science Department University of Otago, Dunedin, New-Zealand. Phone: (03) 479 8347 Fax: (03) 479 8529 e-mail: oreng@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: afmmaker... solved Date: 30 Oct 1994 16:19:09 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <aad9c95700021004b361@DialupEudora> Hello again, Well.. I found *a* way to get fonts from the Mac to a NeXT. I s'pose this is old news to most.. but it took me the better part of a day to get it all straightened out... so maybe I can save someone else some misery.... The good news was that other folks had done most of the work for me. All three next archive sites that I looked at had 'ConvertMacFontsToNext.tar.Z' and 'afmmaker.tar.Z' in one form or another. The problem was that the instructions for using afmmaker.ps suggest that you need 'psh', which I couln't find. It turns out that Yap.app sends stdout to the console (I've used this myself when debugging the simple little NeXT apps that I've cooked up...) and you can just cut/paste the output of afmmaker.ps from the console to a file. You might also be able to run Yap.app from the command line and have this all done automagically... but I didn't have the patience to sort all that out. I just did it by hand for the few fonts I had to convert. There is a gotcha however! in the middle of afmmaker.ps, it allocates a temporary string: afmmaker.ps .. ... a bunch of postscript deleted ... ... /temp 20 string def /writeany2file {temp cvs output exch writestring} def ... ... more postscript deleted... ... and then uses it for various things... (every time the /writeany2file function is used) unfortunately one of the font families I was working with has a *long* name... and the 20 character allocation wasn't enough... (this took me some time to find!). Anyway.. I changed the line to: /temp1 1 string def % % I had to change this to /temp 32 for big fonts... % sjs % /temp 32 string def /writeany2file {temp cvs output exch writestring} def Needless to say... it could still break. If I knew enough postscript I'd write something that measured the length needed and allocated *that* much space... but this isn't 'c', and I don't really know my way around (but I probably should!). I'll try to do it right ... *next* Sunday. :-) see ya, -steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Message-ID: <espritCyIFMJ.5Hn@netcom.com> Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List References: <38ld2u$kvf@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> <rwyattCyB9KM.90L@netcom.com> <38ui36$2ki0@argo.unm.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 23:51:55 GMT In article <38ui36$2ki0@argo.unm.edu> klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) writes: >2. Make money. That means they need to charge enough to cover their costs and >any retail sales they might be losing as a result of the academic pricing, >offset by some estimated payoff from getting NeXTStep out there. Great! That's what I need. Higher prices. What about us folks that are not students (so no edu discount) and not businesses (so either no tax write-off or not enough of a write-off to make a difference)? I guess we all better go back to school, just to support our NeXT habit. >Whether or not I'm grateful for NeXT offering NeXTStep to the academic >community for far below the retail cost (I suppose I am) is not the issue where >NeXT's academic pricing is concerned. > >What's more important is that by raising prices NeXT makes themselves less >attractive to academia. NeXT doesn't need a bunch of students that have heard >NeXTStep is great but have never used it. NeXT needs an academic community >that has used NeXTStep, loves it, and recommends it in the commercial world. >Academic NeXTStep is not the place to raise their prices. You are right. Why bother to get software professionals already in the industry interested in NeXTSTEP? Heck, they're all rich and can afford to pay even higher prices so academia can get bigger prices breaks, right? And it is not like companies listen to the engineers who already work there. No, isn't that why they hire folks from school rather than folks with previous industry experience? I am not intending to start a industry vs. academia battle here. I just wanted to point out that academic folks are not the only ones taking a hit here and IHMO us s/w engineers already in industry might have a better opportunity to evangelize now. For what it is worth, I am still running 3.1 because I cannot afford to upgrade to 3.2. And because I work for Sun (not in OpenStep/DOE, though), I can not develop NeXT apps to sell on my own to fund my NeXT habit :-( -- Alan F. Perry Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List esprit@netcom.com
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3.3 upgrade Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 16:08:46 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.941030160023.4483B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The answer to the question: ``Should I pay $199 to upgrade to 3.3?'' is identical to the answer to the question: ``Is it worth $199 to have the right to upgrade to 4.0 at upgrade pricing?'' There is no guarantee that owners of versions less than 3.3 (or 3.4, or whatever the final 3.x version is) will have the right to upgrade to 4.0 at upgrade pricing. NeXT can announce one thing, but change its mind and do something completely different when 4.0 rolls around. NeXT can even decide not to offer upgrade pricing at all. It is NeXT's property, and they can market it however they please. Unless you have a signed letter from NeXT guaranteeing your right to upgrade, you must assign that you do not have that right. Even with a signed letter, you may not necessarily have that right; all it really gives you is a hunting license to pursue your complaint in a lawsuit. Possession of the latest version is the best insurance that, if upgrade pricing is offered, it will be offered to you.
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problem with cc-2.5.8 Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:07:35 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <391cg7$8e4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Oct27.062555.3893@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> David Hinz (znih!dbhinz) wrote: : Is there a problem with the cc-2.5.8 compiler knowing the default path of : /NextDeveloper/Headers/g++? I just installed cc-2.5.8 and compiled a small : "Hello World" program, but get an error that it can't find stream.h. You recompiled GNU sources or you got something compiled by somebody else (like NeXT)? In both cases there is likely an ommision in a configuration file with a path to actual headers not included. If you do not want to recompile there is a simple workaround. Try to compile your hello.cc with '-v' flag to compiler and check where it was trying to find headers. If, for example, a non-existing directory /usr/local/lib/g++-include is checked but your header files are actually in /usr/include/g++ then add a link ln -s /usr/include/g++ /usr/local/lib/g++-include and everything will work. Other option is use -I flag all the time. Michal P.S An attempt to respond by e-mail bouced back with the following error message: <smtp znih.rmnug.org dbhinz@znih.rmnug.org -2>: expired after 1 day, problem was: read 0 bytes from server! Cmd: (null) Eh???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz (Oren Golan) Subject: NeXT users group in Israel ? Message-ID: <CyIHAr.61w@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 00:28:03 GMT Does anyone know of a NeXT Users group in Israel ? Do they have an e-mail contact address ? Thanks. Oren. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oren Golan Computer Science Department University of Otago, Dunedin, New-Zealand. Phone: (03) 479 8347 Fax: (03) 479 8529 e-mail: oreng@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: 30 Oct 1994 20:33:41 -0600 Organization: Otherwise Message-ID: <391l25$972@jake.bga.com> References: <Cy9qtn.E0H@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCyAtI3.CG9@netcom.com> <CyBKyw.1Br@utstat.toronto.edu> <rwyattCyE4My.1CJ@netcom.com> Many of you have commented that NeXT couldn't price the upgrade much lower without losing money because of the license fees that NeXT has to pay. What I don't understand is why we (and NeXT) have to keep paying those license fees time and time again. If the 3.3 upgrade basically used the 3.2 Postscript interpreter, it would seem that you wouldn't have to upgrade it or pay for it again. Likewise, the Webster word list hasn't changed between 3.2 and 3.3 (at least it is unlikely). Why do you have to pay for it again when you already have it? I haven't seen the contracts that NeXT has with Webster and Adobe (or the others). Maybe they are written such that NeXT has to repay the license fee with every upgrade. But this does not seem like a necessity. Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world. bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands (NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 19:38:23 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.941030193655.4996E-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: bill@otherwise.com In-Reply-To: <391l25$972@jake.bga.com> On 30 Oct 1994, Bill Tschumy wrote: > What I don't understand is why we (and NeXT) have to keep paying those > license fees time and time again. If the 3.3 upgrade basically used > the 3.2 Postscript interpreter, it would seem that you wouldn't have > to upgrade it or pay for it again. Likewise, the Webster word list > hasn't changed between 3.2 and 3.3 (at least it is unlikely). Why do > you have to pay for it again when you already have it? To acquire understanding of this issue, fill in the blanks in the phrase below. Ready, Steady, Go! A ____ and his _____ soon are ______.
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What type of PasteBoard takes documents? Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:55:17 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9410310653.AA25107@alleg.EDU> If I am working in one Compose window and have a document (say an Edit document or something) I can cut/copy it and paste it into another Compose window. What type of Pasteboard is that? pastry doesn't seem to know (it says "Unknown") how can I find out? tia, TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: swiet@fermat.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Date: 31 Oct 1994 08:55:41 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Message-ID: <SWIET.94Oct31035542@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.941030160023.4483B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> In-reply-to: Mark Crispin's message of Sun, 30 Oct 1994 16:08:46 -0800 In article <Pine.NXT.3.92.941030160023.4483B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> writes: Possession of the latest version is the best insurance that, if upgrade pricing is offered, it will be offered to you. It boils down to these options: 1) Give NeXT $200. *Hope* that 3.3 -> 4.0 + $200 is less than getting 4.0 edu outright. 2) Hold onto 3.2. If 3.2 -> 4.0 is too much, sell the NeXTstation. I'm grudgingly going with plan 2.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: driver for the NCR 53C810? Message-ID: <CyHw02.404@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <38pmu9$h3b@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 16:48:01 GMT In article <38pmu9$h3b@gap.cco.caltech.edu> garnett@cco.caltech.edu (John W. Garnett) writes: > I'm attempting to find out if Talus's NCR 53C810 SCSI driver supports > the ASUS PCI SCSI-II card which uses the NCR 53C810 chip. I'm using the ASUS PCI-SCSI Controller Card on a P66 ASUS Mainboard and TALUS driver without any problems. -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Date: 31 Oct 1994 11:44:03 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <392la3$iok@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> References: <SWIET.94Oct31035542@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> Alexander Swietlicki writes > It boils down to these options: > > 1) Give NeXT $200. *Hope* that 3.3 -> 4.0 + $200 is less than getting > 4.0 edu outright. > > 2) Hold onto 3.2. If 3.2 -> 4.0 is too much, sell the NeXTstation. 3) Hold onto 3.2. If 3.2 -> 4.0 is too much, buy a NeXTstation cheap from someone who would give up a working machine because he can't afford the latest software. Diplomacy is the art of |================================================= saying `nice dog' whilst you | Joshua Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu find a rock. -- Talleyrand |=================================================
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Date: 31 Oct 1994 14:16:08 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <392u78$60j@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.941030160023.4483B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> <SWIET.94Oct31035542@fermat.cs.jhu.edu> In article <SWIET.94Oct31035542@fermat.cs.jhu.edu>, Alexander Swietlicki <swiet@fermat.cs.jh> >It boils down to these options: > >1) Give NeXT $200. *Hope* that 3.3 -> 4.0 + $200 is less than getting > 4.0 edu outright. > >2) Hold onto 3.2. If 3.2 -> 4.0 is too much, sell the NeXTstation. > >I'm grudgingly going with plan 2. Would any knowledgeable person tell us what is **NEW** in NS3.3? Why only USER? What about the DEV? Andy -- //|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu // || // @ //==||/\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!" // || \\ @ "BUT MY NeXTMAIL IS NOT WORKING YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Byte Article: Whither Nextstep? Message-ID: <CyJLwo.73s@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <CyDzJM.wI@hot.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 15:05:10 GMT In article <CyDzJM.wI@hot.com> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes: Please do NOT cross-post to .advocacy and .misc. If it belongs somewhere in the comp.* hierarchy, pick one newsgroup and post it there. Thanks -- contents intended to represent only personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Message-ID: <CyJKJt.2IA@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <38ubgo$1r8@News1.mcs.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 14:35:53 GMT > A few months ago, at my request, David told me that I was one of 2 > people who had sent the very gently suggested appreciation fee of > $10.00. Fiend is getting a lot of good reviews, and it deserves them. > If David were to receive some cash he might feel more certain that > his work is appreciated. Ack! I thought it was still free. David, never write 'ten bucks' instead of '$10', name recognition is everything. I'll send you $20 cash this week, from me and a friend. I'll also encourage all Fiend users I know to go ahead and send their share. -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) "Well, it was micro, and it was soft..." Bill Gates' wife after the wedding night
From: gbeegle@nxtul110.wiltel.com (Chris Beegle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: C Shell Script Files Date: 31 Oct 1994 16:15:31 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <393573$9qs@gateway.wiltel.com> I am not sure if this should be here or in the Unix group, it is a simple one though. Does anyone know why this statement in a C Shell script would give me a bad number? (find / -name ${1} -print > ~/trashcan/find.out) >& /dev/null This works fine from the command line, I have tried it several ways.
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 16:02:57 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Distribution: world Message-ID: <941031160257.690AACUP.malc@jeeves> References: <38k35l$5ea@network.ucsd.edu> <38k7d9$964@network.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > It would be nice if they had some policy for "campus wide" site licenses, > hand off the CD's to somebody at the university and then not > worry about it. Though it's not clear that universities would plunk > down the money. > Universities might now but *Departments* might... It might save a lot of NeXT's admin hassle, too. Dear NeXT -- how about considering this? Or maybe do the licensing issues (PS, RenderMan etc.) come into play here? Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jocke@rat.se (Joakim Johansson) Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Message-ID: <CyJMxs.1Gq@rat.se> Sender: jocke@rat.se (Joakim Johansson) Organization: Research & Trade, AB. References: <392u78$60j@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 15:27:50 GMT In article <392u78$60j@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) writes: > Would any knowledgeable person tell us what is **NEW** in NS3.3? > Why only USER? What about the DEV? > > Andy Look at document 1706_3.3_Release_Information.rtf from NeXTanswers... (I think it's in /pub/NeXTanswers/Files/General_NeXT_Information) Joakim -- Joakim Johansson | "The truth is the one thing that Software Developer @ Research & Trade | nobody will believe." jocke@rat.se <NeXTmail> | - George Bernard Shaw
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ?NS3.2/FIP "Edit" app and NS2.2 rtfd files incompatible Date: 31 Oct 1994 19:05:50 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <393f6e$atl@gamera.umd.edu> Keywords: NS3.2/FIP,Edit,RTFD I have a document written on a NeXTstation/Turbo running NS2.2 using the "Edit" app and its in rtfd format. Inside the rtfd directory for this document I have the "TXT.rtf" file and about 10 or so .tiff files with images that are part of the document (included in certain places via Edit supplied \NeXTGraphic0 directives when I look there). This document works fine with Edit on my NS2.2 system, I can read and edit it. But when I tar it up and transport it to my NS3.2/FIP PC it doesn't... There, I open the document from the workspace browser, Edit comes up but I only see the first text-only page of the document, the first included graphic is not shown nor is anything else, Edit on the 3.2/FIP system just stops right there as if the document was only as large as the first page UP TO (but not including) that first inclusion; no errors are reported. I've tried converting the .tiff images to both .ps and .eps and changing the \NeXTGraphic0 directive in the TXT.rtf file to reflect the new file extension but no luck, same behaviour. What's up?!? Any insight into this MUCH appreciated! -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Mike F. Santangelo, Dept. Head-Computer & Network Systems, UMCEES/CBL Solomons
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell) Subject: New print driver in NS3.3? Message-ID: <1994Oct31.174459.12441@Radical.Com> Sender: news@Radical.Com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 17:44:59 GMT Does anyone know if there's a new print driver in NEXTSTEP 3.3 for the NeXT Color Printer? The Canon printer hardware isn't bad, but NeXT's driver for it is pathetic, keeping the printer operating at about 25% of its potential. Anyone know of a third-party replacement for this driver? Source code? Patches? Hacks? Thanks!! Mark
From: pxj@mishna.esys.cwru.edu (Prashanth Joisha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: JOB OPENING IN CLEVELAND Date: 31 Oct 1994 21:06:11 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <393m83$fs6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Practisys, Inc., a fast-growing Cleveland-based company specializing in HealthCare applications is on the lookout for highly-motivated individuals to be part of an exciting team of developers in a challenging environment. Practisys offers flexible working hours, apple dumplings, pizzas, an open no-nonsense environment and an opportunity to innovate, excel and have fun. Of course, we do offer compensation in the form of US$, healthcare benefits, etc. Required Qualifications/Experience: - 2-3 Years programming experience of which 1-2 years should be with NEXTSTEP Should have completed a medium size project under NEXTSTEP preferably with a relational database - Should be familiar with the concepts of the DBKit - Sound knowledge of Objective-C required - Knowledge of SQL and Relational Databases - Good working knowledge of UNIX - Good communication skills - Ability to work in a group Plus points: - UNIX system administration experience - Experience in a healthcare project - Programming experience with C++ If you are looking for an opportunity to excel with a growing company send your resume by fax or mail to: Practisys, Inc 11000 Cedar Ave, Suite 442 Cleveland OH 44106 (216)721-9999 Fax: (216) 721-9995 You could also send your resume to : joisha@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SoftPC and Mac emulator on '030? Message-ID: <1994Oct31.095037.5046@roper.uwyo.edu> From: ezimmerm@UWYO.EDU Date: 31 Oct 94 09:50:36 MST Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie Salutations! I will soon be getting an '030 Cube. I assume SoftPc will run (slowly) on it, but I want to know if there is a Mac emulator that will run. I do a _little_ hypercard developing and would like to not spend extra $dough$ on a cheapo Mac. Any feedback on this would be great! Gene ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
From: lambert@cso.uiuc.edu (Eric Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fiend Dock Tip Date: 31 Oct 1994 21:38:42 GMT Organization: C.C.S.O., University of Illinois Distribution: world Message-ID: <393o52$5r4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <38sjtf$4v1@panix.com> Just my 2 cents, but DAMN if FIEND isn't one of the coolest programs I've had the pleasure to use!! One helluva programmer.... -eil =-) --- ========================================================================= Eric Lambert ENE Division OR GIS Labratory/Geography P.O. Box 9005 318 Davenport Hall Champaign, IL 61826-9005 Urbana, IL 61801 E-mail:lambert@gis.uiuc.edu Lab#: (217) 333-5919 =========================================================================
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 22:17:58 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <941031221758.2311AACUE.malc@jeeves> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.941030193655.4996E-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > To acquire understanding of this issue, fill in the blanks in the phrase > below. Ready, Steady, Go! > > A ____ and his _____ soon are ______. > This is one of those Mensa things, isn't it? A Steady and his Ready soon are go. Can I join now, please? Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Date: 31 Oct 1994 22:41:26 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: usa Message-ID: <393rqm$j0d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <CyJMxs.1Gq@rat.se> My two cents -- or $199 :-) NEXTIME is $90. ELOQUENT (MIME-compatible mail): $175 I need MIME mail to communicate with my research collaborator in Hong Kong who uses an SGI. NeXTMail in 3.3 is MIME-compatible and improved. NEXTSTEP 3.3 suddenly looks like a good deal to me :-) -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEW YORK TIMES: Next/MicroSoft Close to Deal Date: 31 Oct 1994 23:30:35 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <393umr$9k5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <3931fb$ots@news.acns.nwu.edu> Two PC Pioneers Discussing a Rapprochement By John Markoff, Special to the New York Times San Francisco, Oct 30 A "grand rapprochement between two of the personal computer industry's most visible and volatile pioneers, Steven P. Jobs, a co-founder of Apple Computer Inc., and William H. Gates, the chairman of the Microsoft Corporation, might be at hand. People familiar with the discussions say Mr. Jobs's faltering Next Inc. has quietly been negotiating with Microsoft for financing of Next's software development. A deal for Next to create a version of its highly regarded software for Microsoft's Windows 95 and Windows NT operating systems was close to being announced this week, people familiar with the talks said, but snags delayed any immediate agreement. The discussions are continuing. A spokeswoman for Microsoft refused comment and Mr. Jobs, reached by telephone this weekend, said he would not discuss unannounced products. A deal would let software authors use Next development tools to write programs that would let software authors use Next development tools to write programs that would run on the two Microsoft operating systems. Mr. Jobs and Mr. Gates, once allies, have in recent years become competitors with differing visions of the future of personal computing. The Microsoft-Next deal "would be a public relations agent's dream," said Esther Dyson, publisher of Release 1.0 a computer industry newsletter. "If Steve wants to have an impact, this would be a good way to do it." Such a deal could return Mr. Jobs closer to center stage in the industry. He left Apple in 1985 after a dispute with John Sculley, then its president, and the following year founded Next Inc. with the intention of creating a new standard for desktop computing. However, despite gaining a loyal following among some programmers and on some college campuses, Next was never able to attract a widespread business following for its computer. In 1993 the company sold its hardware business to Canon and has since tried to compete as a software company. With backing from the Intel Corporation, Next has produced a version of its software that runs on Intel-compatible personal computers. In addition to giving Mr. Jobs renewed influence, a Next-Microsoft alliance would also be a further step toward consolidating Microsoft's growing authority over the entire computer industry. It would give Microsoft, which is based in Redmond, Wash., a clear advantage over I.B.M. and Apple in the race to create the next generation of personal computer software. Mr. Gates and Mr. Jobs have had a long business relationship. In 1977 a $10,500 payment from Apple for Microsoft Basic saved Mr. Gates's fledgling company from bankruptcy, according "Gates," a biography of the software entrepreneur by Stephen Manes and Paul Andrews. Microsoft's Basic programming language was then built into the Apple II, which became the best-selling personal computer in late 1970's and early 80's. Mr. Gates returned the favor in 1984 when he became an early backer of Apple's Macintosh computer. Mr. Gates's software has gone on to dominate the market for the machine, which now commands about 10 to 12 percent of the personal computer market. Next has had little success in trying to become a force in the computer industry, but its object-oriented software approach has won praise from software programmers who use its sophisticated programming tools to build applications quickly. Refined in the last nine years, Mr. Jobs's Nextstep operating system and software development tools let sophisticated programs be constructed from ready-made parts. This offers a shortcut around the tedious task of writing and rewriting basic software functions for each new program. Apple, I.B.M. and Microsoft are working on competing object-oriented software systems, known as Taligent and Cairo, respectively. Taligent, a joint I.B.M.-Apple venture, is expected to make its development system available commercially next year. Microsoft's Cairo is now scheduled for release no earlier than 1996. In the last year the privately held Next, based in Redwood City, Calif., has signed agreements with the Hewlett-Packard Company and Sun Microsystems Inc., but there are persistent reports that it is in financial difficulty. Next executives have said the company will have revenues of $45 million to $50 million this year. However, in recent weeks at least four top members of Mr. Jobs's marketing team have left for other companies, with one going to Taligent. Last week there were conflicting reports about why the Microsoft-Next deal was not finished. Several people said that Mr. Jobs had tried to change the terms of the agreement at the last moment, while others suggested that key members of the Cairo development team had objected to a Microsoft endorsement of a competing system.
From: "Thomas G. Mon" <tm31+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What type of PasteBoard takes documents? Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 19:20:58 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QihMbeG00iV24AsAsm@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <9410310653.AA25107@alleg.EDU> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 31-Oct-94 What type of PasteBoard tak.. by Tim Luoma@alleg.EDU > If I am working in one Compose window and have a document (say an > Edit document or something) I can cut/copy it and paste it into > another Compose window. > > What type of Pasteboard is that? pastry doesn't seem to know (it > says "Unknown") how can I find out? This should just be an NXFilenamePBoardType. Tom. tm31@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: davisre@netcom.com (Robert Davis) Subject: Re: What type of PasteBoard takes documents? Message-ID: <davisreCyKC6t.FH6@netcom.com> Organization: independent References: <9410310653.AA25107@alleg.EDU> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 00:32:53 GMT Tim Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote: > >If I am working in one Compose window and have a document (say an >Edit document or something) I can cut/copy it and paste it into >another Compose window. > >What type of Pasteboard is that? pastry doesn't seem to know (it >says "Unknown") how can I find out? > Well, since you're using Pastry you can find out the types by bringing up the inspector and clicking "Show Types". Just to clarify what you're asking... you have a Mail Compose window up and the letter you're editing has a file in it. If you select that file and no text around it and choose Mail's Edit->Copy menu item, something is written to the pasteboard (the general, all-purpose, NeXTSTEP pasteboard), and you'd like to know what type of data it is. The answer is that Mail writes two types to the pboard in this case: RTFD and NXFileContentsPboardType. The FileContents type was created for 3.0 to help apps copy and paste files. NeXTSTEP already had a file NAME type that most apps use (i.e. select a tile in Fiend or Engage and choose copy and the filename is written to the pboard) -- but the file CONTENTS type is for apps that want to write the actual contents of the file to the pboard. In some places that might be desirable, such as in a Mail Compose window where the "file" is somewhere in /tmp (who knows where) and probably won't be staying around long, or in other apps that read and write RTFD, like Edit. As for Pastry, it doesn't have a default inspector for either RTFD or file contents right now (maybe later) so it just shows the types list in its inspector. But someone could write one using Pastry's API and drop it into ~/Library/Pastry. (Notice that if you select a little bit of text with the file in the Compose window and copy it, Mail.app will write RTF and plain text to the pboard in addition to RTFD and File Contents. In that case Pastry will be able to display the RTF or plain text just fine.) If NeXT wanted RTFD to be used in more apps, they'd have to build more support for it into the Appkit, I imagine. Rob -- Robert Davis (davisre@netcom.com) "Look up, Hannah."
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 23:14:58 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <941031231459.2311AACUF.malc@jeeves> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.941030160023.4483B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote: > The answer to the question: > > ``Should I pay $199 to upgrade to 3.3?'' > > is identical to the answer to the question: > > ``Is it worth $199 to have the right to upgrade to 4.0 at upgrade pricing?'' > Sorry Mark, I think you're clouding the issue here; the answers to these questions are by no means the same, since they depend on a number of external variables. Your error, however, might I hope serve to clarify the issue. The second questions should be more along the lines of: "If I think it will be worth upgrading to NEXTSTEP 4.0 (this is a question in itself, really), then is the difference in cost between the upgrade price from 3.2 to 4.0 and from 3.3(+) to 4.0 more or less than the value derived from continuing to use 3.2 after 3.3 has shipped." This is clearly going to be context-dependent. On average, sites with, say, large Intel installations, or wanting early access to EOF are more likely to find upgrading to 3.3 of value than sites with large NeXT installations and a greater reliance on existing (custom) apps. I suspect that academia will generally fall into the latter category, and MCCA-type customers into the former. *On the assumption that the $299 academic price remains in place*, the cost of the upgrade is, and my needs are, such that as far as I can tell it's not really worth my while upgrading now, so I shan't. To press this argument maybe a little too far: If I *need* to upgrade, then IMHO, QED, it is worth the cost of the upgrade, whatever it might be. If I can't afford it, then I'm in the wrong business. There are many avenues of research we'd like to pursue, but funding constraints are such that we cannot. We argue fiercely that we should get more money, but in the end we can't do what we don't have resources to do, and we do the best we can with what facilities we have (this is IMHO the country's loss, and our government's fault). To speculate further: The impression I get is that NeXT is aware of the benefits of suporting academia, and is suporting in the best way it can, by selling NEXTSTEP for as close to cost as is possible. Given this, I suspect that they couldn't actually reduce the price for this upgrade else they would. I wish the price were lower (as I wish NeXT could find the resources to market NEXTSTEP in academia), but I cannot on this occasion blame NeXT, or demand anything different. Malcolm.
From: perry@ccnet.com (Michael Perry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New print driver in NS3.3? Date: 1 Nov 1994 00:16:48 -0800 Organization: CCnet Communications (510-988-7140 guest) Message-ID: <perry.783677622@ccnet> References: <1994Oct31.174459.12441@Radical.Com> The last time I checked, the Next Color Printer was virtually the only one NOT supported by DOTS, a fine third-party printer driver. They were unable to get help from Next or Canon; I had the same experience. It is a shame. I would also like to know if the situation has improved. Michael Perry Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell) writes: >Does anyone know if there's a new print driver >in NEXTSTEP 3.3 for the NeXT Color Printer?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Subject: Re: Printing PostScript as 2up Message-ID: <CyKDrx.s4@relief.com> Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Organization: Relief Consulting & Development References: <38oc5h$h72@runner.uucp> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 01:07:08 GMT In article <38oc5h$h72@runner.uucp> richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) writes: > I have a 90 page PostScript file. How do I print it as 2up. (You know > two document pages printed on one physical page.) Preview's page layout > option is not available. > > Thanks > > > -- > Richard > richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu > (ok to send NeXT Mail) 1> man psnup PSNUP(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual PSNUP(1) NAME psnup - Print multiple pages on a sheet of paper. SYNOPSIS psnup [ -rG ] [ -nnupspec ] [ -Spapersize ] [ -spagesize ] [ -poutputfile ] [ -Pprinter ] [ -dprinter ] [ file ] DESCRIPTION psnup reads in a POSTSCRIPT file (or the standard input if no file is named), and if the input conforms to the POSTSCRIPT file structuring conventions, provides page rota- tion, printing of multiple pages on a sheet of paper (n-up printing), selection of page and paper sizes, and writes the resulting file on the standard output. The output may be directed to a file. etc..... -- John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com Relief Consulting & Development (206) 743-3953 4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!! Edmonds, WA 98026-4433 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer --
From: dwaldron@dtsdemo.rrddts.donnelley.com (Doug Waldron) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Academic too) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 31 Oct 1994 13:26:32 -0600 Organization: R.R. Donnelley Database Technology Services Message-ID: <393gd8$pch@dtsdemo.rrddts.donnelley.com> : In article <rwyattCyAtI3.CG9@netcom.com> rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt) writes: : [ ] : >I'm not sure I see where you are arriving at the $400 figure. Am I missing : >something? : Operating costs. Software is a deductible item. :<stuff deleted> Software is not automatically deductable for those of us in the real world. In fact, I would guess that over %90 of us can't deduct the software. Independent Software Contractors can, but that's a small percentage. Buisnesses can deduct it. Buying it for myself, no can do on the deduction topic. Even if I can justify it as a buisness expense, AND if I am itemizing, then the total buisness expenses for the year must be greater than %2 of my gross income. Over that I can deduct. NeXT has come a long way to making the OS affordable. For 6 years I wanted a NeXT machine. I couldn't afford the hardware in college or out. So I waited for the Intel version and now I'm NeXTStepping past my colleagues. Once I finish learning the development environment, look out for the newest independent NeXT Contractor in Chicago. I didn't get the edu price but it was still a small price to pay in or out of college.
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing PostScript as 2up Date: 1 Nov 1994 10:02:20 GMT Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany Message-ID: <3953nc$fj3@diablo.ppp.de> References: <38oc5h$h72@runner.uucp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <38oc5h$h72@runner.uucp> richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) writes: > I have a 90 page PostScript file. How do I print it as 2up. (You know > two document pages printed on one physical page.) Preview's page layout > option is not available. > Start Librarian.app and look for "up ps print". You find: psnup reads in a POSTSCRIPT file (or the standard input if no file is named), and if the input conforms to the POSTSCRIPT file structuring conventions, provides page rota- tion, printing of multiple pages on a sheet of paper (n-up printing), selection of page and paper sizes, and writes the resulting file on the standard output. The output may be directed to a file. Atze
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 12:22:36 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <941101122236.2418AACUQ.malc@jeeves> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.941030160023.4483B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> <941031231459.2311AACUF.malc@jeeves> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII So much for de-obfuscation... <sigh> I managed to munge two versions of text: > The second questions should be more along the lines of: > > "If I think it will be worth upgrading to NEXTSTEP 4.0 (this is a > question in itself, really), then is the difference in cost between > the upgrade price from 3.2 to 4.0 and from 3.3(+) to 4.0 more or > less than the value derived from continuing to use 3.2 after 3.3 > has shipped." > "If I think it will be worth upgrading to NEXTSTEP 4.0 (this is a question in itself, really), then: is use of the extra features in 3.3 worth more than the difference in cost between the upgrade price {from 3.2 to 4.0} and {from 3.3(+) to 4.0 + $199}?" Fave hun, mmalc.
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Date: 1 Nov 1994 13:11:33 GMT Organization: Purdue University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <395eq5$fbr@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <393rqm$j0d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Wassim M. Jabi writes > My two cents -- or $199 :-) > NEXTIME is $90. > ELOQUENT (MIME-compatible mail): $175 > > I need MIME mail to communicate with my research collaborator in Hong Kong > who uses an SGI. NeXTMail in 3.3 is MIME-compatible and improved. > NEXTSTEP 3.3 suddenly looks like a good deal to me :-) I've been trying to avoid learning about things like MIME, but I do have trouble receiving mail attachments from other mailers - Microsoft Mail for example. Will 3.3 being MIME-compatible help here? Please forgive my ignorance. Thanks much - Jon -- Jon Haveman Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: You are going to *love* the #9 IMAGINE 128 card... Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 14:17:31 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <941101141731.2418AACUa.malc@jeeves> References: <CyDv8n.qA@hot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > 8MB VRAM: > 24-bit (32-bit w/alpha) color at 1600x1200 @ 72Hz. > $???? retail / $???? list > Wow! Would anybody care to speculate, however, on what effect running at this resolution/depth will have on system requirements? I presume that many Windows are still 2-bit (e.g. in Edit), and generally not promoted; on the other hand anybody who wants 32-bit colour at that sort of size is presumably likely to be wanting to use it, so there are going to be a lot of 32-bit deep Window buffers... I guess for such a system 64MB RAM might be considered a minimum...? Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (James P Klett) Subject: Re: A NeXTStep 3.3 question Message-ID: <CyLJvx.2D8@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <9410261844.AA00486@next.lnf.infn.it> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 16:15:36 GMT Earl C. Gero (me@next.lnf.infn.it) wrote: : I am thinking of updating my NeXTStation from 3.0 to 3.3. : I have the full developer version of 3.0, so I was wondering : whether or not there are any significant differences between : the 3.0 and 3.3 developer package. In other words, if I : bought the user update to 3.3, would I have any trouble : using the 3.0 version of InterfaceBuilder and ProjectBuilder? The 3.3 Upgrade is just the OS Upgrade. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James P. Klett klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Alternate screens for login window screensaver Date: 1 Nov 1994 18:16:29 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <3960lt$vmn@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Ok, I've got a color turbo sitting in the machine room, as one of our lesser used machines. I'd like to display stuff on this screen when people aren't logged in. (Auroral substorm warnings, current satellite photos, mandelbrot sets...) How does one do things like this. -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.unixware,mi.misc,mi.sun,rec.travel.misc,sci.crypt,umich.networking,umich.org.acm,umich.unix,umich.unix.admin Subject: CFP: Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing Supersedes: <38h1il$35l@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: 1 Nov 1994 19:06:40 GMT Organization: University of Michigan CITI Distribution: world Message-ID: <3963k0$sjp@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Announcement and Call for Papers Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing April 10-11, 1995 Ann Arbor, Michigan Sponsored by the USENIX Association The Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location- Independent Computing will provide a major opportunity for researchers and practitioners in this rapidly growing field to exchange ideas and present results of their work. The First Mobile Computing Symposium, held in Boston in August 1993, generated a great deal of interest from the UNIX and mobile computing communities. Since that time, mobile computing has become an even hotter topic, with the size, cost, and power requirements of the equipment going down. The FCC has announced a plan to auction radio spectrum for use of mobile devices, and the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is in the process of standardizing protocols for mobile TCP/IP, including roaming capabilities. Mobile computers are the fastest growing segment of the PC market, airlines are scrambling to provide network connectivity on board, and terminal rooms at computer conferences routinely provide network taps for users who bring their own computers. The 1995 symposium is a single-track symposium offering two days of refereed paper presentations. The symposium will also include panels, Work-in-Progress reports, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions, and a Keynote speaker. Formally reviewed papers, presented during the symposium, will be published in the symposium proceedings. Proceedings will be distributed free to attendees and later will be available for purchase from the USENIX Association. DATES FOR REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS Extended abstracts due: January 2, 1995 Notification to authors: January 23, 1995 Camera-ready final papers due: March 6, 1995 PROGRAM COMMITTEE Program Chair: Jim Rees University of Michigan Jim.Rees@umich.edu Norman Adams Xerox PARC norman@parc.xerox.com Dan Duchamp Columbia University djd@cs.columbia.edu Dan Geer OpenVision Technologies, Inc. geer@cam.ov.com Phil Karn Qualcomm karn@qualcomm.com Jim Kempf Sun Microsystems james.kempf@eng.sun.com Jay Kistler Digital Equipment Corporation jjk@src.dec.com SYMPOSIUM TOPICS We seek original and innovative papers about current developments in mobile and location-independent computing. We are especially interested in reports on practical experiences with mobile systems. The Mobile Computing Symposium will address a wide range of issues and ongoing developments, including, but not limited to: - Applications for the mobile user - Navigation and positioning (GPS, etc.) - Security, especially in wireless environments or when away from home - Caching and disconnected operation of applications and file systems - Communications Protocols, including mobile TCP/IP - Wireless communications (CDPD, CDMA, GSM, Ardis/RAM, cellular modem, etc.), and how they relate to and interact with operating systems and applications - Portable and mobile computing equipment SUBMISSIONS OF REFEREED PAPERS Submission of an extended abstract of 1500-2500 words (9000- 15000 bytes or 3-5 pages) is recommended. Shorter abstracts run a significant risk of rejection as there will be little on which the program committee can base an opinion. Extended abstracts should be sent to Jim Rees at the address below. For administrative reasons (not blind reviewing), each submission should include a separate page or e-mail message giving the title of the paper, the names and affiliations of the authors, and the name of the author who will act as the contact person for the program committee. For the contact person, also include a daytime telephone number, postal address, e-mail address and FAX number if possible. For questions about refereed paper submissions and other program concerns, contact the Program Chair; contact information follows. If you would like to receive detailed guidelines for submission and examples of extended abstracts, you may telephone the USENIX Association office at +1 510 528- 8649 or email to mobile2authors@usenix.org. USENIX symposia, like most symposia and journals, require that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976. WHERE TO SUBMIT Jim Rees CITI University of Michigan 519 West William Ann Arbor, Michigan USA 48103 Internet: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Telephone: +1 313 763-4174 Fax: +1 313 763-4434 FOR REGISTRATION INFORMATION Materials containing all details of the technical and tutorial programs, registration fees and forms, and hotel information will be available beginning in February 1995. If you wish to receive the registration materials, please contact USENIX at: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert Street, Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 Telephone: +1 714 588-8649 Fax: +1 714 588-9706 Internet: conference@usenix.org
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FAT/MAB - what architectures are included? Date: 1 Nov 1994 14:58:03 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411012056.AA05736@alleg.EDU> Just for future reference, does saying a file is "FAT" and/or "MAB" mean that it contains m68k (Black), i486 (white), and hppa (hmm... what color are HPs?) or just m68k and i486? TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: A NeXTStep 3.3 question Date: 1 Nov 1994 20:44:32 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3969bg$1ne@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <CyLJvx.2D8@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CyLJvx.2D8@news.cis.umn.edu> klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (James P Klett) writes: > Earl C. Gero (me@next.lnf.infn.it) wrote: > : I am thinking of updating my NeXTStation from 3.0 to 3.3. > : I have the full developer version of 3.0, so I was wondering > : whether or not there are any significant differences between > : the 3.0 and 3.3 developer package. In other words, if I > : bought the user update to 3.3, would I have any trouble > : using the 3.0 version of InterfaceBuilder and ProjectBuilder? > > The 3.3 Upgrade is just the OS Upgrade. But it might require the 3.2 developer. (Something I can't answer.) There are certainly significant differences in the developer stuff from 3.0 to 3.1 and again to 3.2. -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fiend Dock Tip Date: 1 Nov 1994 22:10:06 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Distribution: world Message-ID: <396ebu$q84@news.nd.edu> References: <393o52$5r4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Has anyone else mouse-clicked on the info panel? -george George B. Ross_____NeXTmail welcome_________gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering_______University of Notre Dame
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone using 2 monitors under NS/I? Date: 1 Nov 1994 20:32:29 -0500 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <396q7d$a8j@jujube.cs.umd.edu> Does anyone have a NEXTSTEP/Intel setup with two monitors (and video adaptors)? If so, what is your setup, and how does it perform? I have a Dell P-90 with a #9GXE64Pro PCI (very fast), and was thinking of adding another #9GXE64Pro. However, I'm not sure how to configure the second adaptor (which one is the primary one)? Thanks! Ross. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: damonc@damonc.aetnacan.com (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Re: FAT/MAB - what architectures are included? Message-ID: <damonc.20.00168BC3@damonc.aetnacan.com> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Canada References: <9411012056.AA05736@alleg.EDU> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:32:36 GMT In article <9411012056.AA05736@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: >Just for future reference, does saying a file is "FAT" and/or "MAB" >mean that it contains m68k (Black), i486 (white), and hppa (hmm... >what color are HPs?) or just m68k and i486? It's evolving :), but.... "FAT" has been used when discussing m68k + i486 binaries, with "MAB" (multi) meaning any binary with support for "more than one" architecture (>1)... I have seen "Tri-FAT" used to emphasize the fact that an hppa binary is in there as well as "OBESE" (politically correct??!)... To avoid confusion, most FTP sites have opted for a node-labelling schema, where a filename node indicates it's supported architectures (among other things)...ie: filename..NIH..tar.Z indicates the file supports all 3 arch's (yes, "N" stands for NeXT, not Motorola :)...I expect this tradition will continue as new architectures come on board (ie. filename..NIHSP..tar.Z) for SPARC and PowerPC, etc, etc... My $0.02... Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc From: palowoda@netcom.com (Bob Palowoda) Subject: Re: Solaris for Intel (Newbie Question) Message-ID: <palowodaCyMLG7.E2r@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.next.misc Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <37unfk$6cp@anshar.shadow.net> <37v048$anr@anshar.shadow.net> <380q8i$m7i@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <gopSjNo@quack.kfu.com> <38h2tl$fdn@nntp1.u.washington.edu> <199410260730.AA02688@quack.kfu.com> <Pine.PTX.3.91a.941026115755.21335A-100000@carson.u.washington.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 05:48:07 GMT Sinan Karasu (sinan@u.washington.edu) wrote: : Yes and Yes. However we got to be pragmatic. If someone has an Intel : based laptop with 4 MB RAM, it would be unrealistic to recommend : Solaris 2.4 x86 for it. NeXT best thing is Warp...At least until : Solaris Lite is realistic.... Realistic, I think of any OS with a GUI and a heafty wysiwig word processer than can run well with 4 meg. We all hope OS's will be released with with smaller memory requirements but it seems the hunger for memory just keeps on in one direction, up. At this rate by the year 2000 somebody will chuckle when they hear 4 meg as the would have 512 meg in their personal systems. ---Bob -- +--------------------------------------------------------+ | palowoda@fiver.sns.com http://fiver.sns.com/~palowoda/ | | Solaris x86 Corner http://fiver.sns.com/ | +--------------------------------------------------------+
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: new 'date' command? Date: 2 Nov 1994 01:59:11 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411020757.AA01459@alleg.EDU> If memory serves, there was at one time a newer date command out somewhere that would allow printing of just the time or just the date, depending on what flags were given. Does anyone know where that can be found? Thanks TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: roehnelt@csulb.edu (Sean Roehnelt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: good ftp (sharware)?? Date: 2 Nov 1994 10:13:41 GMT Organization: Cal State Long Beach Message-ID: <397ool$4q8@garuda.csulb.edu> I am looking for a good FTP software for nextstep...anybody know of any good archive for nextstep software??? thanks sean -- NOTE: All misspellings are for artistic intent.
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Date: 2 Nov 1994 11:08:11 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <397rur$nkh@aragorn.unibe.ch> References: <395eq5$fbr@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Disregaring the price or the new features, is there a way for us Europeans to order it with Telesales by email? Phoning is about out of question (cost and time difference), apart from 1-800-848-NeXT not being a phone number of much use for us. Is NeXT to be interpreted as 5297 ? I would appreciate an emai address very much. Thanks, -- Moritz Willers Institute of Theoretical Physics Sidlerstrasse 5 3012 Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Subject: Re: Something Wonderful ... 4 days Message-ID: <CyLCD3.pw@nexus1.oche.de> Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V References: <38q7m0$996@news.tamu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 13:34:15 GMT In article <38q7m0$996@news.tamu.edu> rpomeroy@atlantis (Ron Pomeroy) writes: > Cumon' guys! It was a lot closer to home. Omni doin' the > Doom thang! Pretty wonderful if you ask me :-) And where can I get it? Bye, Michael -- *** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen *** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106 *** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome; no MIME, please)
From: eddy@hntp2.hinet.net (eddy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Can NS 3.2 or 3.3 support Dual-CPU?? Date: 2 Nov 1994 12:56:56 GMT Organization: HiNet Message-ID: <3982ao$28q@serv.hinet.net> as title!! ex: AIR 58CDP. -- ------------- Yi-Huang Han Department of Computer Science & Information Enginerring National ChungCheng University Chiayi 621, Taiwan, R.O.C. eddy@hntp2.hinet.net hyh82@cs.ccu.edu.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: NEW YORK TIMES: Next/MicroSoft Close to Deal Message-ID: <1994Nov2.095103.867@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <3931fb$ots@news.acns.nwu.edu> <393umr$9k5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 09:51:03 GMT In article <393umr$9k5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) writes: >Two PC Pioneers Discussing a Rapprochement >By John Markoff, Special to the New York Times >[...] >However, in recent weeks at least four top members of Mr. Jobs's >marketing team have left for other companies, with one going to >Taligent. And there are still some people who say you learn more from Usenet news than you do from traditional newspapers. Nice to see some hard facts rather than vague hints. Dave
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fiend 1.2 Release Notes Date: 2 Nov 1994 10:03:29 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <3989o1$3ns@panix.com> NEW FEATURES: * Fiend Shelf can now be disabled with a "dwrite" * Triple-Fat binary (I know, it's not really a feature...) CLEANUPS: * Dropping icons from the file viewer to the Fiend Shelf now places the dropped icons in a square like it's supposed to * Shelf is a lot faster overall (moving icons, in particular) * Shelf no longer removes icons for files no longer present * Better two-bit-gray icon (thanks to Bill Shirley for the starting point for these icons). BUGS FIXED: * Fiend not displaying docked icons properly after a resize followed by a drag * Fiend allowing animation flag for documents - David C. Lambert dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith) Subject: Does Pick for DOS run with SoftPC? Message-ID: <1994Nov1.184654.1649@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 18:46:54 GMT Does anyone know if the DOS version of the Pick database will run under SoftPC? -- Leif Smith, Denver leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: howar016@mc.duke.edu (Denise Howard Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sources for Mac archiving utilities (for Opener)? Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:18:56 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <398hm0$il7@news.duke.edu> A couple of folks have asked me about adding Mac archiving utilities to Opener.app. Right now you can un-archive Mac stuff with Opener but you can't create an archive to take to a Mac. I'd be happy to add this capability except that I don't know where the sources for any Mac utilities might be found. I'm not a Mac person so I don't even know what these utilities might be called. Stuffit is out of the question since I know that those folks only made their un-archiving sources public. Can someone tell me where I might find such (public domain) sources? Better yet, have you compiled the utilities on your NeXTSTEP machine so that I could borrow your makefiles? I'll add you to the growing list of credits in the next release of Opener if you can help me out. :-) Denise -- Denise Howard Blakeley | PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS. Duke Med Center Info Systems | It was formerly blake015@mc.duke.edu. Durham, NC | My last name is changing to simply (919) 286-6468 W | Howard. howar016@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SoftPC and Mac emulator on '030? Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:18:37 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <398hld$3pf@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Oct31.095037.5046@roper.uwyo.edu> In article <1994Oct31.095037.5046@roper.uwyo.edu> writes: > Salutations! > I will soon be getting an '030 Cube. I assume SoftPc will run > (slowly) on it, but I want to know if there is a Mac emulator that > will run. I do a _little_ hypercard developing and would like > to not spend extra $dough$ on a cheapo Mac. Any feedback > on this would be great! > > Gene > ezimmerm@uwyo.edu Assuming your running at least NS 3.1, SoftPC will run, though the Motorola version's a bit slow and a bit pricey ($549 vs $249 for the Intel version). Executor will run some Mac applications pretty well, but for true Mac emulation, nothing beats Daydream by Quix. It turns your NeXT into a Mac. The latest version should be available soon from OpenSource, as are SoftPC, Executor, and over 150 other third-party NEXTSTEP solutions. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Info on Sirius.com Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:30:36 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <398ibs$3rk@potogold.rmii.com> References: <1994Oct28.061544.22114@math.ucla.edu> In article <1994Oct28.061544.22114@math.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) writes: > > Does anyone know how to get sirius.com > to respond. I've sent email and left > phone messages for purchase info on > Checksum but they do not respond. Are > they still in business? Sounds pretty > flaky to me. > > C Dvorak > cdvorak@pepperdine.edu > > OpenSource has CheckSum in stock and ready to ship. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Using lipo to remove HP arch Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:09:12 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <398h3o$213@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> I wish to strip some binaries to remove the i386 and HP portions, using lipo. I know how to specifiy the -remove i386, but how do I specify the HP portion? Thanks. -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:38:43 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <398ir3$3t3@potogold.rmii.com> References: <CyFBpy.BMG@eskimo.com> In article <CyFBpy.BMG@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: > Chris Cuilla (ccuilla@ccdd.com) wrote: > : I was wondering what hardware recommendations folks out there have. > : I'm particularly slanted towards performance rather than price. > > : I'm interested, specifically, in hearing thoughts on: > > : SCSI card > : Bus Logic 747s > > Mine is running fine on an AMI Enterprise IV using Tomas Hurka's > driver. I could only get my Micropolis 2117 to boot as ID#1 until I > extermally terminated it with an active terminator. > -- > >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, >< > >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages >< The DPT EISA 2122/90 is a robust card, but as far as hardware recommendations go, I'll a take an object.station. I got to play on a black one with a 21" monitor at IT Solutions' NeXT Day Chicago last week what a treat! Why worry about what card or what driver to use when you can have an integrated speed-demon like the object.station? -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com> Message-ID: <9411021630.AA02985@nesteggs.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v112.1) From: "Michael E. Crawford" <crawford@nesteggs.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 10:30:09 -0600 Subject: far afield from Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing > To acquire understanding of this issue, fill in the blanks in the phrase > below. Ready, Steady, Go! > > A ____ and his _____ soon are ______. > Hey, I'd like to join Mensa too A stool and his pigeon soon are parted. Michael Crawford nesteggs Houston (My thanks to cousin Malcolm)
From: dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Date: 2 Nov 1994 18:52:05 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <398n4l$j9b@core.symnet.net> References: <CyFBpy.BMG@eskimo.com> <398ir3$3t3@potogold.rmii.com> Daniel J. Gamble (dan@jughead.opensource.com) wrote: : The DPT EISA 2122/90 is a robust card, but as far as hardware : recommendations go, I'll a take an object.station. I got to play on a : black one with a 21" monitor at IT Solutions' NeXT Day Chicago last week : what a treat! Why worry about what card or what driver to use when you : can have an integrated speed-demon like the object.station? : -- : : Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. : <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for : (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions : 1-800-TRY-OPEN Gee, you wouldn't happen to sell these object.stations? : - )
From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SoftPC and Mac emulator on '030? Date: 2 Nov 1994 22:56:15 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <3995ef$bis@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1994Oct31.095037.5046@roper.uwyo.edu> <398hld$3pf@potogold.rmii.com> In article <398hld$3pf@potogold.rmii.com>, Daniel J. Gamble <dan@opensource.com> wrote: > >Assuming your running at least NS 3.1, SoftPC will run, though the >Motorola version's a bit slow and a bit pricey ($549 vs $249 for the Intel >version). Executor will run some Mac applications pretty well, but for >true Mac emulation, nothing beats Daydream by Quix. It turns your NeXT >into a Mac. The latest version should be available soon from OpenSource, >as are SoftPC, Executor, and over 150 other third-party NEXTSTEP >solutions. Let me know if you'd like more information. >-- Excuse me for my ignoreance, but will Daydream or Executer work on white hardware? Or do they need the 680x0? thanks -cft ------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Tarnas UCSC CATS-ICL Student Help Desk | cft@cats.ucsc.edu iclhelp@cats.ucsc.edu | Home: (408)-427-1064 Work: (408)-459-4693 |
From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: new 'date' command? Date: 2 Nov 1994 23:52:34 +0100 Organization: Contributed Software GbR Message-ID: <39957i$7c1@uropax.contrib.de> References: <9411020757.AA01459@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: >If memory serves, there was at one time a newer date command out >somewhere that would allow printing of just the time or just the >date, depending on what flags were given. --------------- cut here ----------------------- #include <time.h> #include <stdio.h> main (argc, argv) int argc; char * argv[]; { char buffer [1000]; time_t t; t = time (NULL); strftime (buffer, 1000, argc > 1? argv[1] : "%c", localtime (&t)); puts (buffer); } ------------ cut here -------------------------- See strftime (3) for format strings. To print date: newDate %x To print time: newDate %X or newDate %H:%M Regards, Ralf -- melonSoft Ralf Suckow Berlin | Developer of MusicBuilder (R), suckow@contrib.de | the music creation application: fax: +4930 9321901 | finest software from old Germany ;-)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Using lipo to remove HP arch Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:29:37 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411022327.AA02464@alleg.EDU> I wish to strip some binaries to remove the i386 and HP portions, using lipo. I know how to specifiy the -remove i386, but how do I specify the HP portion? I think it is 'hppa' but it is easier (in my opinion) to 'cd' to the folder where the executable resides, and run my alias 'thin4m68k' (I am using tcsh for now) alias thin4m68k 'lipo -thin m68k -output \!* \!*' for example, if you were going to grab the fantastic new Fiend.app and just wanted the m68k version, you would cd Fiend.app and do thin4m68k Fiend which will thin the executable for m68k (or whatever you put after the -thin in the alias) of course if you aren't into aliases, you could just do (all one line) lipo -thin m68k -output WhatToCallOutputExecutable NameOfInputExecutable (look out for .nfs files that sometimes hang around for longer than they should!) TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: Solutions@Radical.Com Subject: Radical Solution #1 - Minding Your DMA's and IRQ's Message-ID: <1994Nov2.225150.25706@radical2.radical.com> Sender: news@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 22:51:50 GMT ===================================================================== RADICAL SOLUTION (TM) #1 - MINDING YOUR DMA'S AND IRQ'S ===================================================================== COPYRIGHT: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Anaheim Hills, California Phone: (714) 280-1619 E-mail: solutions@radical.com Permission granted to distribute unmodified with copyright and disclaimer intact. DISCLAIMER: This Radical Solution (TM) is distributed on an "as is" basis with no warranty expressed or implied. Use at your own risk. Your mileage may vary. ===================================================================== Radical Solution (TM) #1 November 1994 The most difficult aspect of configuring an AT-compatible PC to run NEXTSTEP for Intel is resolving device conflicts. It is the intent of this Radical Solution (TM) technical note to provide assistance with resolving IRQ, DMA, and Base I/O Address conflicts. The first step to take is to inventory all of the IRQ's, DMA's, and Base I/O Addresses used by the system and by any additional user installed devices. Use Configure.app, read the device manuals and examine the devices themselves to obtain this information. Include every device whether it is intended for use by NEXTSTEP or not. The following table illustrates the resources utilized by a standard AT-compatible system: IRQ DMA Base I/O Device ----------------------------------------------------------------- 0 System Timer 1 060-067 Keyboard 2* Cascade for interrupts 8-15 3 2F8-2FF Serial Port COM2 4 3F8-3FF Serial Port COM1 5 278-27A Parallel Port LPT2 6 2 3F0-3F7 Floppy Disk Controller 7 378-37A Parallel Port LPT1 8 Realtime Clock 9* Redirected IRQ2 10 (available) 11 (available) 12 (available) 13 Math Coprocessor 14 1F0-1F8 Hard Disk Controller (IDE) 15 (available) *IRQ2 and IRQ9 are equivalent and are treated as a single interrupt. Depending on the motherboard and BIOS, various combinations arise. IRQ2/IRQ9 may be mapped to IRQ2 or IRQ9 or both. Some systems only work with the device set to IRQ2 with the interrupt reporting as IRQ9 or vice versa. A side effect of the IRQ cascading worth noting is that the IRQ's have the following priorities: High 0 1 2/9 10 11 12 13 14 15 3 4 5 6 7 8 Low. The following table shows the default resources utilized by some common user installed devices: IRQ DMA Base I/O Device ----------------------------------------------------------------- 200-207 Game Port 2 330-338 PAS 16 MPU-401 Emulation 2 2E8-2EF Some Video Adapters - Most Don't 3 2E8-2EF Serial Port COM4 3 300-30F Intel EtherExpress 16 Ethernet Adapter 4 3E8-3EF Serial Port COM3 5/7 278-27A Parallel Port LPT3 5 1 220-22F Sound Blaster Sound Adapter 5 1 220-22F PAS 16 Sound Blaster Emulation 7 3 388 Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Sound Adapter 7 5 330-333 Adaptec 154X SCSI Adapter Some other possible areas of contention are with the BIOS and memory mapped address spaces used by some devices. This is generally not a problem but should be taken into consideration. The following table lists the default BIOS and memory mapped address space utilized by some standard and common devices: Address Space Device ------------------------------------------------------ A000-C7FF Video Adapter BIOS DC00-DFFF Adaptec 154X SCSI Adapter BIOS F000-FFFF System BIOS 80000000-9FFFFFFF Video Adapter Memory Mapped The next step to take is to note the device resource conflicts. Carefully observe the first two tables above and note some of the potential conflicts between IRQ's, DMA's, and Base I/O Adresses. Left to their own doing, devices will conflict with one another. Once the conflicts are discovered, the final step is to resolve them. This is easier said than done. First try and reconfigure one of the conflicting devices to another available setting. If the resolution of the conflict is not obvious from the inventory taken, try to reconfigure all of the devices as suggested for NEXTSTEP. Another possibility is to configure the devices to match another working system. The remaining option is to experiment, which can become a very long and frustrating process. The following table summarizes the resources utilized by a system that has been running NEXTSTEP for Intel without incident: IRQ DMA Base I/O Device ----------------------------------------------------------------- 0 System Timer 1 060-067 Keyboard 2 (see IRQ9) 3 2F8-2FF Serial Port COM2 4 3F8-3FF Serial Port COM1 5 (available) 6 2 3F0-3F7 Floppy Disk Controller 7 378-37F Parallel Port LPT1 8 Realtime Clock 9 (available) 10 300-30F Intel EtherExpress 16 Ethernet Adapter 11 5 334-338 Adaptec 1542CF SCSI Adapter 12 7 388 Pro Audio 16 Basic Sound Adapter 13 Math Coprocessor 14 1F0-1F8 Hard Disk Controller (IDE) 15 (available) Another possibility to consider is that the conflict may not be with another device but with the system itself. Try the devices in various slots. Make sure that the device is in the correct type of slot. There may be 8-bit ISA, 16-bit ISA, 32-bit EISA, 32-bit VLB, 32-bit PCI, or 64-bit PCI slots on a motherboard. Also try different combinations of IRQ's and DMA's for the devices. Note that DMA's 0-3 are for 8-bit transfers and 4-7 are for 16-bit transfers. In general, IRQ's 0-7 are for 8-bit devices and 8-15 are for 16-bit devices. Also check that the system BIOS is configured properly. Some systems with more than 16MB of RAM misbehave when ROM shadowing is enabled. If all else fails, give up! Not every device will work with every other device or motherboard. That's one of the facts of life when working with AT-compatible PC systems. ===================================================================== Next issue, RADICAL SOLUTION (TM) #2 - ROLLING YOUR OWN SYSTEM ===================================================================== Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: prev NeXT user using MAC... Date: 3 Nov 1994 01:57:16 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <399g1s$f4g@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <Cy87Jn.sn@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <CyF2q5.nI@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> In article <CyF2q5.nI@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk>, Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant) <skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk> wrote: >rsb2b@avery.med.Virginia.EDU (Ralph S. Buckley) writes: > >>I am a prior NeXT user who had to switch over to mac recently. >>I am overall happy with the mac (PPC 7100), but miss a few >>things about the NeXTstep environment and was wondering if >>there were any mac/next users who knew of any extensions or >>desktop accessories on the mac to do the following: > >>1. I like the browser for file searching much more than system >>7's file listing. Is there anything on the market like it? > >try gui/gregs-browser-20.hqx in info-ma >its somehow simulate the browser view. would anyone know of a similar utility for X on a sparc? thanks -cft ------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Tarnas UCSC CATS-ICL Student Help Desk | cft@cats.ucsc.edu iclhelp@cats.ucsc.edu | Home: (408)-427-1064 Work: (408)-459-4693 |
From: mueller@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: expert system shells Date: 3 Nov 1994 09:07:14 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <39a982$9ed@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hallo, are there any expert system shells/Ki-enviroments available for NeXTStep platforms, commercial or public domain? Is there a prolog-interpreter for NeXTStep? Any pointers to addresses, articles, ftp-sites are welcome. Thanks in advance Robert -- Robert M ller Arbeitsgruppe TheMPO Institut f r Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation Universit tskliniken Mainz 55101 Mainz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: rene@prz.tu-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) Subject: HELP: Cube crashed when trying to dump/tar !! Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ) Message-ID: <CyorzJ.C7G@prz.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 10:04:29 GMT Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin Hi, i have a big problem: my Cube isn't able to complete a backup using dump/tar on a HP-DAT without crashing !! I can only make a backup in Single-User. The machine is running NS 3.2. What can i do/look for to get rid of that problem ? Regards Rene' -- ____________________________________________________________________________ <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Date: 3 Nov 1994 16:17:04 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <39b2e0$l25@potogold.rmii.com> References: <398n4l$j9b@core.symnet.net> In article <398n4l$j9b@core.symnet.net> dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) writes: > Daniel J. Gamble (dan@jughead.opensource.com) wrote: > : The DPT EISA 2122/90 is a robust card, but as far as hardware > : recommendations go, I'll a take an object.station. I got to play on a > : black one with a 21" monitor at IT Solutions' NeXT Day Chicago last week > : what a treat! Why worry about what card or what driver to use when you > : can have an integrated speed-demon like the object.station? > : > Gee, you wouldn't happen to sell these object.stations? > > : - ) > Why, as a matter of fact we do. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Date: 3 Nov 1994 17:34:42 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <39b6vi$2q1@news.onramp.net> References: <398ir3$3t3@potogold.rmii.com> > > The DPT EISA 2122/90 is a robust card, but as far as hardware > recommendations go, I'll a take an object.station. I got to play on a > black one with a 21" monitor at IT Solutions' NeXT Day Chicago last week > what a treat! Why worry about what card or what driver to use when you > can have an integrated speed-demon like the object.station? > > -- > > Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. > <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for > (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions > > 1-800-TRY-OPEN Hmmm... an integrated, non-upgradeable, $8500-ish 486/75 speed demon... Sure they're nice, but the objectstations aren't for everybody. Hopefully a lot of the NS/I driver problems will be resolved, or at least ameliorated, in 3.3. With a little experience and research, you can put together a well-integrated Intel machine using components that will be usable in machines based on future processors (and I'll put my $3950 P90 machine against a 486, 444 video or not...). Dan Daniel L. Kramer Bifrost Enterprises (713) 531-7959
From: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr (Pierre Didierjean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: *** Q: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON THE NET ? Date: 3 Nov 1994 16:41:54 GMT Organization: SSII Sender: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr Message-ID: <39b3si$bfo@anemone.saclay.cea.fr> I'd like to know what kind of people i find on the net. Students, Commercials, Adminitrations, Scientifics or what ?? Is anybody knows that or have statistical results ? What are YOU doing in life ? I am a system administrator. Thanks for the answers and sorry for my english ..... Bye +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pierre DIDIERJEAN | | | | Administrateur Systeme UNIX | | Cisi, Aix-en-Provence | | France | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | email : cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: marty@.sw.stratus.com (Marty Frongillo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: KSH for Next 3.2 Date: 3 Nov 1994 18:17:02 GMT Organization: Isis Distributed Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <39b9eu$da7@transfer.stratus.com> I'm looking for a FTP site where I can download KSH. I'm running NS 3.2 on Intel. -- Marty Frongillo (marty@sw.stratus.com) Isis Customer Support Center (800) 563-9012 (Toll free) 55 Fairbanks Blvd. (508) 490-6646 Marlboro, MA 01752 USA (508) 481-9274 (Fax)
From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: AMD cpus Date: 3 Nov 1994 22:28:24 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <39bo69$1ge@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Does any body have much experience with amd cpu with NS? Specifically the 486dx2 66 and the 486dx2 80. Any problems or incompatibilities? thanks -cft ------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Tarnas UCSC CATS-ICL Student Help Desk | cft@cats.ucsc.edu iclhelp@cats.ucsc.edu | Home: (408)-427-1064 Work: (408)-459-4693 |
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From: dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AMD cpus Date: 3 Nov 1994 23:49:55 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <39bsv3$1db@core.symnet.net> References: <39bo69$1ge@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Hello, I am using an AMD 486DX2 without problems. I would recomend skipping the AMD and just getting a Pentium, though. Dru
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: far afield from Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing Date: 3 Nov 1994 22:41:59 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <39bovn$lia@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <9411021630.AA02985@nesteggs.com> In article <9411021630.AA02985@nesteggs.com> writes: : > To acquire understanding of this issue, fill in the blanks in the phrase : > below. Ready, Steady, Go! : > : > A ____ and his _____ soon are ______. : > : : Hey, I'd like to join Mensa too : : A stool and his pigeon soon are parted. You mean: A pigeon and his stool soon are parted. Yuck! :-) -- Paul M. Cardon
From: emo@mitre.org (E. Michael O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: A Modest Proposal Re: FAT/MAB - what architectures ... Date: 4 Nov 1994 00:59:29 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation Message-ID: <39c11h$t8g@linus.mitre.org> References: <9411012056.AA05736@alleg.EDU> Tim Luoma writes > Just for future reference, does saying a file is "FAT" and/or "MAB" > mean that it contains m68k (Black), i486 (white), and hppa (hmm... > what color are HPs?) or just m68k and i486? How about this: MABx where x = sum of 1 for m68k 2 for x86 4 for hppa 8 for sparc 16 for ppc 32 for alpha 64 for mips etc. we can keep it decimal in the interests of architectural neutrality:) eg MAB3 = m68k + x86 MAB10 = x86 + sparc (note MAB1 MAB2 MAB4 etc are disallowed as false advertising) etc, etc How about it? > > > TjL > > --- > Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) > Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k > No Root access, no super-user access > NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key -- * * MIKE * (E. Michael O'Neill) <emo@mitre.org> * Speaking for himself alone
From: dario@osmin.cns.nyu.edu (Dario Ringach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Any HP sales representatives in NYC? Date: 3 Nov 1994 22:20:15 GMT Organization: New York University Distribution: world Message-ID: <39bnmv$psk@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Does anyone know where can I buy an HP w/NextStep in NYC? Thank you in advance... -- Dario Ringach | office: (212) 998-7614 Center for Neural Science | home: (212) 727-9346 New York University | e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Are we 'Black' NeXTs fools ?) Message-ID: <CypMCC.vo@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab. References: <38v5vo$62v@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:00:12 GMT Hi! Well all this upgrading causes me a lot of real real pain. Could somebody be so kind and explain to me if I'm mis-informed or NeXT ist kicking us old NeXT believers out of the door. ? Every body with Intel 3.1 can decide to wait for NSfIntel 4.0 and buy a second Acadmia release. That's 690.- DM ( 350.- $) here in Germany and that's really OK. But I know a lot of guys who simple had not the money to do those early NSfMoto 3.0 upgrades and back then they didn't feel like switching the release. Now it seams to me as if old NeXT guys are the only fools out here in NeXT academia land because ...(please tell me something has changed) ... we are not allowed to simple buy a new release. As far as I remember WE have to upgrade all the way from what we own. 2.1 -> 3.0 -> 3.1 -> 3.2 -> 3.3 -> 4.0: Well Ok thats about 5x 400.- DM = 2000.- DM. (1000 $) And yes. There are still guys running 2.1 or 3.0 out here in the fields. Now please tell me that NeXT changed that with the upcoming 3.3 or please (NeXT.com) explain to me what we did wrong in buying NeXT hardware. Aloha Tomi (STEPpeople usergroup) -- _________________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome D - 90522 Oberasbach
From: bdhp8uc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Andrew Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT floppy drives for sale Date: 4 Nov 1994 07:46:18 GMT Organization: Educational Computing Network Message-ID: <39cosa$sup@news.ecn.bgu.edu> [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.hardware ] [ Author was Andrew Jackson ] [ Posted on 4 Nov 1994 07:31:36 GMT ] Have hundreds...make offers...first come....first serve Andrew Jackson (312) 221-9205 voice a-jackson2@bgu.edu internet
From: miggsys@hk.super.net (Mr. Miguel Villax) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help with AMD's on-board SCSI disk controooler Date: 3 Nov 1994 23:45:27 GMT Organization: Hong Kong SuperNet Message-ID: <39bsmn$i30@wanchai.hk.super.net> Hello netters: It is planned to exist in NS 3.3 support for AMD's on-board SCSI/netwoerk controllers like the one existing in my new HP XU/90? if not when it will the driver become available ? Any experiences with this machine running NS? Thanks in advance!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: oscar@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) Subject: Re: AMD cpus Message-ID: <Cyqx1L.su@nx1.westminster.ca.us> Sender: root@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) Organization: Oscar S. Alonso Software Enginnering. References: <39bsv3$1db@core.symnet.net> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 13:48:56 GMT In article <39bsv3$1db@core.symnet.net> dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) writes: > > Hello, > > I am using an AMD 486DX2 without problems. > > I would recomend skipping the AMD and just getting a Pentium, though. > AMD is going to releasing a 486DX 120mhz (DX *3 40mhz) next month. Oscar.
From: jeff@alfalfa.cs.mci.com (Jeff Momoi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: where is Denise Blakeley? Date: 4 Nov 1994 16:29:08 GMT Organization: MCI Communications Message-ID: <39dngk$2pl@hermes.dna.mci.com> Keywords: Blakeley Hello there: *** I'm posting this for a friend. Please respond to alex@oolesson.com. *** I'm trying to find Denise Blakeley. If anybody out there knows where she is, please have her contact Alex at alex@oolesson.com. Thanks, - Jeff -
From: rich@tongue1 (Richard D. Warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT expo?? Date: 4 Nov 1994 18:27:19 GMT Organization: USDA-SCS NHQ in Fort Collins Message-ID: <39due7$1jc@ftcnews.scs.ag.gov> Hi there - Just a quick question. When is the next expo scheduled? Is it still in San Fran and what kind of developer's training can we pick up while there (I think before they've ov offered classes the following week or some such to take advantage of people being in town). Rich
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Are we 'Black' NeXTs fools ?) Date: 4 Nov 1994 18:00:28 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <39dsrs$j0e@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <CypMCC.vo@shinto.nbg.sub.org> In article <CypMCC.vo@shinto.nbg.sub.org> tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) writes: > Every body with Intel 3.1 can decide to wait for NSfIntel 4.0 and buy a > second Acadmia release. That's 690.- DM ( 350.- $) here in Germany and > that's really OK. So can Motorola users! (assuming they're eligible, of course.) > not allowed to simple buy a new release. As far as I remember WE have to > upgrade all the way from what we own. 2.1 -> 3.0 -> 3.1 -> 3.2 -> 3.3 -> > 4.0: That's not true in any case - it costs the same to upgrade from any previous version (at least at this point). -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: John.Stephen@remote1.demon.co.uk (John.Stephen) Subject: Re: *** Q: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON THE NET ? Organization: Barclays Bank PLC References: <39b3si$bfo@anemone.saclay.cea.fr> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 19:27:03 +0000 Message-ID: <CyrCtn.91@remote1.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <39b3si$bfo@anemone.saclay.cea.fr> cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr (Pierre Didierjean) writes: > I'd like to know what kind of people i find on the net. > Pierre; the best way to answer your question is by your browsing around; there is vast spectrum of users here ! John -- John I. Stephen _______________________________ Email : john@remote1.demon.co.uk
From: russell@mik.uky.edu (russell mays) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: Cinepak or QuickTime CD-ROMS Date: 4 Nov 1994 19:51:32 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Distribution: usa Message-ID: <39e3c4$ia4@s.ms.uky.edu> During NextStep Expo '94, there were some Cinepak or Quicktime movie clips being played on NextStep machines demonstrating NextTime. If anyone has information on where to find Cinepak or Quicktime CD-ROMS, please let me know. I am primarily interested in ones that have movie clips or full-length movies like the ones shown at NextStep Expo. Thanks in advance! Russell Mays russell@f1.facts.uky.edu
From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Black vs. White Date: 4 Nov 1994 22:36:46 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <39ed1u$ksf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> This seemed kinda like a misc type topic: How would a 486dx 2 compare aganst a 030, a 040, a turbo in overall performance? I realize that different configurations will give different results. -cft ------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Tarnas UCSC CATS-ICL Student Help Desk | cft@cats.ucsc.edu iclhelp@cats.ucsc.edu | Home: (408)-427-1064 Work: (408)-459-4693 |
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AMD cpus Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 16:51:04 +1000 Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <godwin.427.0086294A@unixg.ubc.ca> References: <39bsv3$1db@core.symnet.net> <Cyqx1L.su@nx1.westminster.ca.us> <39ejh5$cao@core.symnet.net> In article <39ejh5$cao@core.symnet.net> dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) writes: >From: dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson)>Subject: Re: AMD cpus >Date: 5 Nov 1994 00:27:16 GMT >: AMD is going to releasing a 486DX 120mhz (DX *3 40mhz) next month. > For how much? What are the anticipated Specs compared to a P90? > Also, with all of the newer chips like the K5 coming out that will > be pin compatable with the Pentium. Overall, I think all of the > designs will lean towards the Pentium heavilly now. I thought K5 has totally different technology then the Pentium...Isn't K% essentially a CISC x86 to RISC translator??? But Pentium is still a CISC chip... > Dru
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis) Subject: Connecting a PowerBook to a NeXT Cube -- can it be done? Message-ID: <1994Nov4.185223.12380@sq.sq.com> Followup-To: poster Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:52:23 GMT I've just acquired a NeXT Cube and printer. I'd like to be able connect my wife's PowerBook 170 to this so that we can print stuff from it. Ideally, we should be able to select the NeXT printer from the PowerBook, i.e. treat it like a printer attached to the same network as the Mac. In practice I'm willing to consider less perfect approaches, up to and including PostScript via SneakerNet, if that's what it comes to. Any suggestions will be gratefully received, and I'll repost a summary in case anyne else needs to know. --Rick. PS: yes, I've looked at NeXTAnswers, and am following up the leads I've found from there. -- Rick Innis SoftQuad Inc. "Have you seen the secret of the Universe?" said rick@sq.com Zebedee, arriving. "I know I left it here somewhere." +1 (416) 239 4801 x251
From: dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AMD cpus Date: 5 Nov 1994 00:27:16 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <39ejh5$cao@core.symnet.net> References: <39bsv3$1db@core.symnet.net> <Cyqx1L.su@nx1.westminster.ca.us> : AMD is going to releasing a 486DX 120mhz (DX *3 40mhz) next month. For how much? What are the anticipated Specs compared to a P90? Also, with all of the newer chips like the K5 coming out that will be pin compatable with the Pentium. Overall, I think all of the designs will lean towards the Pentium heavilly now. Dru
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [unix question] how to get the path to the current dir Date: 4 Nov 1994 19:59:07 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411050157.AA08257@alleg.EDU> I know this is probably better off in one of the Unix newsgroups, but anyway.... I am looking for a way to get the opposite of "basename" (a command that will take a path and give just the ending.) i.e. if I give the command a like like /software/NeXT/demos/next-interface/binaries/ or /software/NeXT/demos/next-interface/binaries it will come back with /software/NeXT/demos/next-interface/ I imagine this is simple with sed/awk, but have been unable to figure out the syntax. (and don't have the time to learn a new shell language right now!) Email replies would probably be best since this is a little off the topic. thanks TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is Denise Blakeley? Date: 5 Nov 1994 05:46:46 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <39f686$74q@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> References: <39dngk$2pl@hermes.dna.mci.com> Jeff Momoi writes > I'm trying to find Denise Blakeley. If anybody out there knows where she > is, please have her contact Alex at alex@oolesson.com. Any chance this Alex was the Mystery Dancer at Expo??
From: bdhp8uc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Andrew Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT floppy drives for sale Date: 5 Nov 1994 08:03:25 GMT Organization: Educational Computing Network Message-ID: <39fe8d$9eh@news.ecn.bgu.edu> [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.programmer ] [ Author was Andrew Jackson ] [ Posted on 4 Nov 1994 07:45:54 GMT ] [ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.hardware ] [ Author was Andrew Jackson ] [ Posted on 4 Nov 1994 07:31:36 GMT ] Have hundreds...make offers...first come....first serve Andrew Jackson (312) 221-9205 voice a-jackson2@bgu.edu internet
From: howar016@mc.duke.edu (Denise Howard Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is Denise Blakeley? Date: 5 Nov 1994 08:21:58 GMT Organization: Duke University Medical Center Information Systems Message-ID: <39ffb6$png@news.duke.edu> References: <39dngk$2pl@hermes.dna.mci.com> <39f686$74q@cat.cis.brown.edu> In article <39f686$74q@cat.cis.brown.edu>, Joshua W. Burton <burton@het.brown.edu> wrote: >Jeff Momoi writes > >> I'm trying to find Denise Blakeley. If anybody out there knows where she >> is, please have her contact Alex at alex@oolesson.com. > >Any chance this Alex was the Mystery Dancer at Expo?? Nope! I know Alex. He was, however, one of the three men I danced with at the same time. :-) Denise -- Denise Howard Blakeley | PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS. Duke Med Center Info Systems | It was formerly blake015@mc.duke.edu. Durham, NC | My last name is changing to simply (919) 286-6468 W | Howard.
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM Date: 5 Nov 1994 06:07:07 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> We have an 040 cube whose original hard disk has died, and have bought a new 3rd party disk to replace it. The disk comes preformatted, so I was ready to do the install from scratch by booting from the 3.2 CDROM, but I cannot get it to work. I am not having the problem described in the notes (where it hangs waiting for the CDROM drive to come ready), instead I get a "no SCSI disk" error. I didnt check to see if the ROM version is the early or the late version -- I suspect the former, so I tried using the technique described in the notes, using the upgrade-prep floppy, but... This machine has no floppy drive, but has a OD drive. So, I installed the file /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom onto an optical disk using "disk -B ...", and attempting to boot from that file using "bod(0,0,0)sdmach rootdev=od0", and it said "searching for CDROMs", and I could see it reading the CDROM (could hear it and see the lights), but then it quit with an exception #4. Is there some way to get this to work without having to find a SCSI external floppy drive (I know noone who has one)? Is there another step I may be missing, or does this information provide any clues as to what may be wrong? Please respond via email! Thank you in advance! -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: fseto@redwood.gatech.edu (Frank Seto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 5 Nov 1994 16:30:27 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> References: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> I was having a similar problem with a NextStation (the black pizza box...) It turn out to be a problem with the termination. Although the hard drive was already terminated, I needed to put another scsi terminator on the back scsi port for the stupid thing to recognize the hard drive. I have already posted a message asking if there is a better solution to this, but it seems like all the Next guru are hiding under a rock... Let me know if you find a better solution than this. -Frank Douglas Scott (doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) wrote: : We have an 040 cube whose original hard disk has died, and have bought a new : 3rd party disk to replace it. The disk comes preformatted, so I was ready to : do the install from scratch by booting from the 3.2 CDROM, but I cannot get it : to work. I am not having the problem described in the notes (where it hangs : waiting for the CDROM drive to come ready), instead I get a "no SCSI disk" : error. I didnt check to see if the ROM version is the early or the late : version -- I suspect the former, so I tried using the technique described in : the notes, using the upgrade-prep floppy, but... : This machine has no floppy drive, but has a OD drive. So, I installed the file : /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom onto an optical disk using "disk -B ...", and : attempting to boot from that file using "bod(0,0,0)sdmach rootdev=od0", and it : said "searching for CDROMs", and I could see it reading the CDROM (could hear : it and see the lights), but then it quit with an exception #4. : Is there some way to get this to work without having to find a SCSI external : floppy drive (I know noone who has one)? Is there another step I may be : missing, or does this information provide any clues as to what may be wrong? : Please respond via email! Thank you in advance!
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM Date: 5 Nov 1994 19:02:59 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <39gkt3$2uh@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> References: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> I solved this problem in a way that might interest others who have early cubes with the early ROM versions which do not (seem to) allow booting directly from the CDROM. First the problem was that I could not do "b sd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1" because these early machines do not probe for the CD-ROM prior to the boot sequence, so I got "no SCSI disk" in response. I could not boot from the optical disk, even though I installed the /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom file on it using disk -B (adapting the instructions for doing the same on a floppy disk). I do not know why this did not work. What I was able to do was skip the boot from the special boot block altogether by using a boot trick: I did "bsd -a". That does two things: 1) The -a tells it to prompt for the root device. 2) The fact that I gave it no arguments made it go out and probe for all scsi devices, which meant it found the CD-ROM. This is the obscure detail. When it fails on sd0, I gave it sd(1,0,0)sdmach as the boot block. It then booted from the CD-ROM, and asked me for the root device, at which point I gave it sd1. Away we went. So the summary is: you can install from scratch onto a hard disk from CD-ROM without need of an additional floppy or optical boot block by doing what I described above. Hope it helps somebody else! -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT expo?? Date: 5 Nov 1994 19:32:25 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Distribution: world Message-ID: <39gmk9$a3m@news.blkbox.com> References: <39due7$1jc@ftcnews.scs.ag.gov> In article <39due7$1jc@ftcnews.scs.ag.gov> rich@tongue1 (Richard D. Warner) writes: > Hi there - > > Just a quick question. When is the next expo scheduled? Is it > still in San Fran and what kind of developer's training can > we pick up while there (I think before they've ov offered > classes the following week or some such to take advantage > of people being in town). > > Rich I understand that there'll be offering a do-it-yourself course in filing Chapter 11 open to all NEXTSTEP registered developers (who haven't already filed), along with a resume writing course and a job placement seminar for both NEXTSTEP developers and any remaining NeXT employees. Due to the "overwhelming" growth in the NEXTSTEP market this year, along with the flood of new developers clamoring to sell their new NS products, the EXPO will be moved to Chevy's, the Mexican restaurant across from Mosconi Center. The move was described as a "right-sizing". There won't be an admission charge, but there will be a two drink minimum (four drinks for the keynote). I understand that Steve Jobs plans to announce that for the second year in a row NEXTSTEP has sold twice as many copies as every other non-shipping object-oriented operating system and he plans on doubling this lead for the coming year! Steve Sarich
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help. NetInfoManager problem Date: 5 Nov 1994 16:47:29 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <39guhh$f9l@panix2.panix.com> I feel really stupid. I started the net manager without regard to my static setup. How do I undo it. Many thanks, RS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Paul_Lynch@seer (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Are we 'Black' NeXTs fools ?) Organization: P & L Systems References: <CypMCC.vo@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 23:47:10 +0000 Message-ID: <1994Nov5.234710.1292@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <CypMCC.vo@shinto.nbg.sub.org> tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) writes: > Now it seams to me as if old NeXT guys are the only fools out here in NeXT > academia land because ...(please tell me something has changed) ... we are > not allowed to simple buy a new release. As far as I remember WE have to > upgrade all the way from what we own. 2.1 -> 3.0 -> 3.1 -> 3.2 -> 3.3 -> > 4.0: I agree that it is unecessarily confusing. Certainly with 3.1 NeXT were requiring people to take the intermediate upgrades. However, that didn't seem to apply with the upgrade to 3.2. I would assume from what I have seen so far that you can upgrade from any release direct to 3.3. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Date: 6 Nov 1994 02:03:44 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <39hdi0$9dq@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <39b2e0$l25@potogold.rmii.com> In article <39b2e0$l25@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel -> > Gee, you wouldn't happen to sell these object.stations? -> Why, as a matter of fact we do. Let me know if you'd like more -> information. Thanks for the offer. Let us know when you get some scruples, and we'll think about it then. -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: peisch@cfa.org (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: Fiend 1.1 release Message-ID: <CytwMK.L6y@cfa.org> Organization: CANS References: <38lkmo$p0@panix.com> <CyC9xA.A2y@qb.rhein-main.de> <38qvv4$sgi@oclc.org> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 04:28:45 GMT Robin Hermance-Moore (rhm@oclc.org) wrote: : Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) wrote: : : Kudos to David for this great app! Fiend is one of my favorites. : : You have contributed a wonderful piece of work to the NeXT community! : That goes double for me! And shame on the person who griped because : Dave has elected not to distribute his source code - let's just be : thrilled that he continues to upgrade and share this terrific app! Yes, Dave has done a marvelous job with Fiend and was disappointed that the source wasn't available. I've started using HP's almost solely now and I miss Fiend. I don't have time or patience to anything more with the souce than compile it. Until the triple version is available I atleast have a couple more spots on the dock... peter
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT expo?? Date: 6 Nov 1994 04:47:12 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <39hn4g$3ju@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <39gmk9$a3m@news.blkbox.com> In article <39gmk9$a3m@news.blkbox.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: > I understand that there'll be offering a do-it-yourself course in filing > Chapter 11 open to all NEXTSTEP registered developers [ etc., etc. ] Probably the most exciting new course to be offered at the Expo: "How to Develop and Maintain an Excellent Working Relationship with the Provider of One's Development/User Environment". The Expo is fortunate to have enlisted as instructor for this course the pre-eminent expert on this topic, Mr. Steve Sarich III of Talus. Sign up early to reserve a seat in this course which will undoubtedly be in great, possibly unprecedented, demand (NOT!!). --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> Subject: Re: [unix question] how to get the path to the current dir Message-ID: <1994Nov5.203911.798@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software References: <9411050157.AA08257@alleg.EDU> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 20:39:11 GMT In article <9411050157.AA08257@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: }~ I know this is probably better off in one of the Unix newsgroups, but }~ anyway.... }~ }~ I am looking for a way to get the opposite of "basename" (a command }~ that will take a path and give just the ending.) Replies redirected to comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Bruce
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.94Nov6111258@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Control: cancel <ROBERT.94Nov6111258@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Date: 06 Nov 1994 11:48:53 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov6114853@steffi.dircon.co.uk> -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Paul_Lynch@seer (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Organization: P & L Systems References: <395eq5$fbr@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 14:13:12 +0000 Message-ID: <1994Nov6.141312.3159@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <395eq5$fbr@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes: > Wassim M. Jabi writes > > My two cents -- or $199 :-) > > NEXTIME is $90. > > ELOQUENT (MIME-compatible mail): $175 > > > > I need MIME mail to communicate with my research collaborator in Hong Kong > > who uses an SGI. NeXTMail in 3.3 is MIME-compatible and improved. > > NEXTSTEP 3.3 suddenly looks like a good deal to me :-) > > I've been trying to avoid learning about things like MIME, but I > do have trouble receiving mail attachments from other mailers - > Microsoft Mail for example. Will 3.3 being MIME-compatible help > here? The forthcoming enhancement to MSMail features MIME; existing MSMail systems may possibly have a SMTP gateway that supports MIME, but this isn't very likely (but there are a lot of gateways out there). Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Paul_Lynch@seer (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Organization: P & L Systems References: <397rur$nkh@aragorn.unibe.ch> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 14:14:02 +0000 Message-ID: <1994Nov6.141402.3222@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <397rur$nkh@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) writes: > Disregaring the price or the new features, is there a way for us Europeans > to order it with Telesales by email? Phoning is about out of question > (cost and time difference), apart from 1-800-848-NeXT not being a phone > number of much use for us. Is NeXT to be interpreted as 5297 ? Contact your local NeXT office or reseller. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AMD cpus Date: 6 Nov 1994 18:04:40 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <39j5ro$bub@core.symnet.net> References: <39bsv3$1db@core.symnet.net> <Cyqx1L.su@nx1.westminster.ca.us> <39ejh5$cao@core.symnet.net> <godwin.427.0086294A@unixg.ubc.ca> Godwin (godwin@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote: : In article <39ejh5$cao@core.symnet.net> dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson) writes: : I thought K5 has totally different technology then the Pentium...Isn't K% : essentially a CISC x86 to RISC translator??? But Pentium is still a CISC : chip... In a way, yes, but it is stated on Page 102 in the November BYTE that it will be pin compatable with the P54C Pentium. I hope this doesn't change. Dru
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fiend 1.2 is available and 3fat (was: Re: Fiend 1.1 release) Date: 6 Nov 1994 12:25:15 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411061825.AA02254@alleg.EDU> The 3fat version was announced Nov 1, 1994 on comp.sys.next.announce It can be found at: ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/dock/Fiend.1.2.b.NIH.tar.gz (site is in Germany, I believe) and ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/util/Fiend.1.2.NIH.tar.gz (site is in USA) TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: slfink <slfink@tezcat.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help:loading ns3.1 Date: 6 Nov 1994 20:12:45 GMT Organization: Tezcat.COM, Chicago Message-ID: <39jdbt$m0b@quilla.tezcat.com> I am trying to load ns 3.1 onto an intel machine. I have upgraded to adaptek 1540cf card. The boot disk is looking for the 1540b device. How do I specify drivers at bootup so that My cd is visible to Mach? Where do I find 1540cf drivers which will work with ns 3.1? For those of you who think I would solve my problems by going to 3.2, It is necessary for me to do this with 3.1. It is what is available to me now and waiting a month or so for 3.3 is the most economic thing for me to do. I have found info on ftp.next.com but it only pertains to ns 3.2. Could someone point me to ns 3.1 info site or www pages. I also understand that there is a source at ftp.digifix.digifix.com however I am unable to access it. (maybe this is the wrong address). I remember that some time ago that there was a reference document with pointers to info sources, however I am now unable to find it. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. Steven Finkelman slfink@netcom.com slfink@tezcat.com DATA/Massage
From: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT expo?? Date: 6 Nov 1994 18:49:12 GMT Organization: IBM Rochester MN Distribution: world Message-ID: <39j8f8$jpf@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> References: <39due7$1jc@ftcnews.scs.ag.gov> In article <39due7$1jc@ftcnews.scs.ag.gov>, rich@tongue1 (Richard D. Warner) writes: |> Hi there - |> |> Just a quick question. When is the next expo scheduled? Is it |> still in San Fran and what kind of developer's training can |> we pick up while there (I think before they've ov offered |> classes the following week or some such to take advantage |> of people being in town). |> |> Rich The EXPO is in the month of June. There are developer oriented lectures during the expo. As for training, after or around the EXPO I wouldn't know. It's pretty early for the schedule, so stay tuned.... Tom -- #include <std-disclaimer.h> |o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o| |o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" -Marvin Martian |o| |o| tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (work - No NeXTMail) |o| |o| TGall@eworld.com (home - Newton Mail) |o| |o| Coming Soon, NeXTMailable email address |o|
From: skeeterbdg@aol.com (SkeeterBDG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP!! NeXT Questions!!!!! Date: 6 Nov 1994 22:16:54 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <39k676$q8t@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Hi, all... I am a used equipment reseller. I recently got three Black NeXT systems which were reposessed. How do you tell them apart? How can you tell what is in them, and even more important, what they are worth? HELP!!! Thanks for any info... Skeeter
From: mschaef@cs.utexas.edu (Michael Alan Schaeffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hardware Requirements Date: 7 Nov 1994 01:02:51 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <39kjer$qam@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu> This is really a fairly simple question. What I'm wondering about is if I should bother trying to run NextStep on my machine (486DX/33, 20MB RAM, 420MB IDE, ATI Graphics Ultra.) I'd really love to run the system, but for starters, upgrading my hardware would be a little too costly (I'm a student, not a corporation :-). Thanks for any responses. BTW, I'd be running the academic version, with the development system, and don't really care too much about color. -Mike PS: Has anybody tried running the user version on a Toshiba T3400?
From: c9039@rrzc3 (Roland Schwingel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CDROM-Writer on Next ? Date: 7 Nov 1994 10:40:40 GMT Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany Message-ID: <39l078INNg6f@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> Keywords: CDROM,WRITER Hello, I got a question concerning CDWriters on Nextstep. I got a Pinacle RCD202 Writer and want to attach it to the Next. Now the following is happening, when I am inserting an empty media: Nextstep opens the format disk panel and wants to format or eject the WORM and therefore I can not write to this device. How can I prevent NS from doing this ? Any ideas ? Thanks in advance for your help, Roland -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Schwingel, Lilienthalstrasse 9, 92421 Schwandorf, Germany Email: roland.schwingel@extern.uni-regensburg.de roland@onevision.de (NO MAILS >20K! NeXTMail welcome) Phone: +49-(0)9431-5779 (after 6 pm) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: rpomeroy@atlantis (Ron Pomeroy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where is Denise Blakeley? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 7 Nov 1994 01:30:26 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Sender: rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <39jvvi$kro@news.tamu.edu> References: <39dngk$2pl@hermes.dna.mci.com> <39f686$74q@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Keywords: mystery dancer expo Joshua W. Burton writes: >Jeff Momoi writes >> I'm trying to find Denise Blakeley. If anybody out there knows where she >> is, please have her contact Alex at alex@oolesson.com. >Any chance this Alex was the Mystery Dancer at Expo?? Are we talking about the infamous Stone Design Rave here ? While Alex (a good friend of mine) is a dancer I believe he kept his clothes on that night. More than I can say for some of the folks at the rave ;-) SF...wild place...definately. Ronald Pomeroy Senior EE/Smalltalk Stud/NEXTSTEP weenie Texas A&M University rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu "...It's in Microsoft's best interest if NeXT becomes sucessful because we'll give them something to copy for the rest of the decade." - Steve Jobs (talking to Bill Gates)
From: jjuran@eos.hitc.com (Joshua Juran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Connecting a PowerBook to a NeXT Cube -- can it be done? Date: Mon, 07 Nov 1994 11:11:47 -0500 Organization: Hughes Applied Information Systems Message-ID: <jjuran-0711941111470001@lo-mac3108b.hitc.com> References: <1994Nov4.185223.12380@sq.sq.com> In article <1994Nov4.185223.12380@sq.sq.com>, rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis) wrote: > I've just acquired a NeXT Cube and printer. I'd like to be able connect my > wife's PowerBook 170 to this so that we can print stuff from it. > > Ideally, we should be able to select the NeXT printer from the PowerBook, > i.e. treat it like a printer attached to the same network as the Mac. In > practice I'm willing to consider less perfect approaches, up to and > including PostScript via SneakerNet, if that's what it comes to. Well, there are two tasks here: (1) getting the PowerBook on the same network, and (2) getting it to talk to the printer. 1. You can get a PowerBook ethernet adapter from several vendors (Farallon, Dayna, Asante, etc.). Check the Mac catalogs. I don't recall if NeXT supports LocalTalk. 2. I believe the LaserWriter driver will run any generic PostScript printer. You might also port the PPD. Can the PPD be used on the Mac without conversion (other than newline)? In any case, you can try the PPD, tweaking it if necessary, or just use the Generic settings. Good luck! Josh -- Joshua Juran =) | jjuran@eos.hitc.com NeXTMail | When in doubt, um... Hughes Applied Information Systems |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: harts@nex002 (Paul Harts) Subject: NeXT and ZyXel as a voice mail system? Message-ID: <1994Nov7.164228.17494@news.research.ptt.nl> Sender: usenet@news.research.ptt.nl (USEnet News) Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands References: <CyDv8n.qA@hot.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 16:42:28 GMT Hi, Is anyone aware of a NeXT application which makes it possible to use 1 line and a ZyXel modem and a NeXT (black) as a voice mail system? I also would like to make outbound calls using a head set and my modem. SBook and phonetones are not interesting (enough) for me. I am looking for something more professional TIA, paul. ================================================================== email: P.P.W.M.Harts@research.ptt.nl | 'What's a FAQ?' mail : Winschoterdiep OZ 46 | probably is one. PO Box 15000 | 9700 CD Groningen | Netherlands |
From: Mike Schaeffer <mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware Requirements Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 11:33:04 -0600 Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.941107111014.50768A-100000-100000-100000-100000@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <m0r4VTb-000BqdC@nextsrv1.andi.org> On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Bill Chin wrote: > In comp.sys.next.misc you write: > > >(486DX/33, 20MB RAM, 420MB IDE, ATI Graphics Ultra.) > > Let see... you've got the CPU, you've got a large enough hard drive, > you've got enough RAM, I'm glad to hear it. :-) > but your video card is suspect. If it is > the ATI Ultra Pro VL or PCI, it'll be good enough. If not, then you > won't get better than VGA (640x480 2 bit gray). My video card is the ATI Graphics Ultra. It is the predecessor to the Graphics Ultra Pro, as such it's not local bus. What I was hoping for in terms of resolution is 1024x768x8bit, either monochrome or the 8-bit color that's supposed to be in 3.3. Is the lack of local bus going to make this not feasable? Thanks a lot. -Mike
From: benedett@deis05.cineca.it (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for e-mail address of Cub'x Systems Date: 7 Nov 1994 17:34:20 GMT Organization: Cineca Message-ID: <39loes$s60@sirio.cineca.it> I have been told that the X11R5 port for NS formerly sold by Cub'x is now distributed by a new software vendor. Does anyone have their e-mail address? Thanks in advance, -Arrigo -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail:benedett@deis05.cineca.it University of Bologna bndm13k1@bologna.nettuno.it (NeXTmail accepted) Via S. Agata 11 41100 MODENA - ITALY phone: (home) + 39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727
From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware Requirements Date: 7 Nov 1994 17:19:00 GMT Organization: IBM Rochester MN Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall) Distribution: world Message-ID: <39lni4$1f0c@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> References: <39kjer$qam@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu> In article <39kjer$qam@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu>, mschaef@cs.utexas.edu (Michael Alan Schaeffer) writes: |> This is really a fairly simple question. What I'm wondering |> about is if I should bother trying to run NextStep on my machine |> (486DX/33, 20MB RAM, 420MB IDE, ATI Graphics Ultra.) I'd really love |> to run the system, but for starters, upgrading my hardware would be a |> little too costly (I'm a student, not a corporation :-). Thanks for |> any responses. BTW, I'd be running the academic version, with the |> development system, and don't really care too much about color. Actually by the looks of your hardware you do have enough. Is your display adapter card a local bus card? If not, that would be your main area of concern. The next is your CPU. a 486DX/33 will run NS. It won't be a speed demon, but it should do the job. (I'm not trying to plant fear in you) Anyway, looks like you can do it! |> -Mike |> |> PS: Has anybody tried running the user version on a Toshiba T3400? No idea.... Best wishes.... Tom -- #include <std-disclaimer.h> |o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o| |o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" -Marvin Martian |o| |o| tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (work - No NeXTMail) |o| |o| TGall@eworld.com (home - Newton Mail) |o| |o| Coming Soon, NeXTMailable email address |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: Connecting a PowerBook to a NeXT Cube -- can it be done? Message-ID: <CywroH.6n7@txnews.amd.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <1994Nov4.185223.12380@sq.sq.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:38:39 GMT In article <1994Nov4.185223.12380@sq.sq.com> rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis) writes: > > I've just acquired a NeXT Cube and printer. I'd like to be able connect my > wife's PowerBook 170 to this so that we can print stuff from it. Can't you do this with the 3rd-party AppleTalk networking software for NeXT, and a TCP/IP and ethernet piece for the PowerBook, perhaps via a docking station? -- contents intended to represent only personal opinions
From: danno@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Connecting a PowerBook to a NeXT Cube -- can it be done? Date: 7 Nov 1994 19:15:50 GMT Organization: University of Michigan,ITD User Services Message-ID: <39lud6$2hr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <1994Nov4.185223.12380@sq.sq.com> <CywroH.6n7@txnews.amd.com> In article <CywroH.6n7@txnews.amd.com>, <charles.herrick@amd.com> wrote: >In article <1994Nov4.185223.12380@sq.sq.com> rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis) >writes: >> >> I've just acquired a NeXT Cube and printer. I'd like to be able connect my >> wife's PowerBook 170 to this so that we can print stuff from it. > >Can't you do this with the 3rd-party AppleTalk networking software for NeXT, >and a TCP/IP and ethernet piece for the PowerBook, perhaps via a docking >station? If you can get the mac to generate generic postscript that the NeXT likes, which shouldn't be too difficult with the laserwriter 8.0 driver, you can simply print to file (on floppy) on mac put floppy in next (maybe do a CR -> LF conversion somehow) lpr the file. A little slower than having it on the net, but a lot cheaper than buying a bunch of hardware. You could also hook up a serial line (null modem) between the next and the mac, and zmodem the postscript file over, but it's probably easier to just floppy-transfer it. -- dan pritts ITD/LSA Partnership Unix Support dan.pritts@umich.edu I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink a beer to celebrate something important, like the fall of communism or the fact that our refrigerator is still working.
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (bill anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CDPlayer doesn't work Date: 7 Nov 1994 19:31:12 GMT Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <39lva0$qlk@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> My CDPlayer.app doesn't work properly any more. When I log in as user "bill", it claims it cannot find the cdrom drive. In the monitor, I get cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 4 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied But if I log in as "root", everything is fine. In the past, CDPlayer always worked no matter how I logged in. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. Thanks. -- Bill Anderson Department of Mathematics and Statistics McGill University (bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca)
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.games.doom,alt.games.doom.announce,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.games,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: RESULT: rec.games.computer.doom.* groups all pass Supersedes: <rec.games.computer.doom-reorg-CFV2@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 7 Nov 1994 16:48:44 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <rec.games.computer.doom-reorg-RESULT@uunet.uu.net> References: <rec.games.computer.doom-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> <rec.games.computer.doom-reorg-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> <rec.games.computer.doom-reorg-CFV2@uunet.uu.net> RESULT rec.games.computer.doom.* groups results - 494 valid votes Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 413 73 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.doom.announce (Moderated) 371 93 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.doom.help 380 84 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.doom.misc 374 91 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.doom.editing 353 105 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.doom.playing 2 invalid votes Newsgroups lines: rec.games.computer.doom.announce Info/FAQs/reviews about DOOM. (Moderated) rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (new players welcome). rec.games.computer.doom.misc Talking about DOOM and id Software. rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing and hacking DOOM-related files. rec.games.computer.doom.playing Playing DOOM and user-created levels. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the proposed groups contact John Van Essen <vanes002@maroon.tc.umn.edu>. PURPOSE The rec.games.computer.doom hierarchy is for discussing various topics relating to the popular action-oriented computer game DOOM, written by id Software, and its sequels and user-written add-ons. It would also consolidate DOOM-related discussion currently underway in other newsgroups. It is intended for world-wide distribution. This proposal also establishes a new rec.games.computer newsgroup subhierarchy for games that run on general-purpose computers. CHARTERS ======== rec.games.computer.doom.announce Info/FAQs/reviews about DOOM. (Moderated) The sort of postings likely to be to be approved by the moderator are general announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of DOOM players. Examples of these types of articles are: - Anything from id Software - New PWAD and LMP announcements - Announcements of new versions of utilities like DEU and DEHACKED - Tourney announcements - FTP site news (downtime, user limits, etc) - FAQs and similarly informative documents - Reviews of user-written PWADs The current moderator of alt.games.doom.announce, Tony Lezard, says that he'd be happy to moderate this newsgroup using the current addresses: Submit: doom@mantis.co.uk Contact: doom-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.announce. rec.games.computer.doom.help DOOM Help Service (new players welcome). This unmoderated newsgroup is the headquarters of the DOOM Help Service. Readers new to USENET or to DOOM who post questions here will receive a flame-free friendly response from experienced USENETters and DOOM players. Game setup, hardware problems, modem/network setup, secrets, cheats, how to get DOOM and related utilities are a few examples of suitable topics. Questions about modifying/editing levels belong in the .editing group. This newsgroup replaces alt.games.doom.newplayers. rec.games.computer.doom.misc Talking about DOOM and id Software. Here is where discussion occurs about non-play-related issues that aren't suitable (or only marginally so) for the other subgroups. Examples are FTP issues, ports of DOOM to other systems, piracy, "DOOM - the Movie", DOOM II vs. DOOM, what's the best soundcard, DOOM-related ads, comparisons with other games, magazine articles, people at id and their cars, future id plans (Quake). In general, if it isn't about actually playing or editing DOOM, post it here. rec.games.computer.doom.editing Editing and hacking DOOM-related files. Discussion here covers modifying the DOOM environment, especially the EXE and WAD files. There are many user-written utilities available that do these types of things. Some authors and experienced users can answer questions about design techniques and using the utilities. Examples of topics are effects of design error (HOM, Medusa), design problems in user-written PWADs, modifying default DOOM behavior, utility enhancements. Comments or questions about playing user-written PWADs (opinions, keys, secrets, etc.) should not be posted here - post in .playing instead. rec.games.computer.doom.playing Playing DOOM and user-created levels. Discussion about playing DOOM takes place here (not only about playing id's original levels, but also about playing user-written PWADs). Topics include how to find secrets, keyboard/mouse movement techniques, side-effects of playing DOOM, where to find good PWADS (and which ones are favorites), deathmatch experiences, and so forth. Tournament discussions and multi-player topics can go here, too. PWAD upload notices can be posted here when not posted in .announce. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: MAILING LIST: Enterprise Objects Framework mailing List Message-ID: <Cywwn8.82o@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA References: <39ch0t$ein@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 19:25:54 GMT In article <39ch0t$ein@digifix.digifix.com> William Shipley <wjs@omnigroup.com> writes: > Omnigroup has created a new mailing list for discussion of features, > bugs, programming, etc... concerning the NeXT Enterprise Objects > Framework > To Subscribe.. > send email to > listproc@omnigroup.com You know, it would really be nice if people would either forgo braindead LISTSERV email auto-subscribers and answer the mail by hand or get a decent auto-subscriber. Just what are the how-to-subscribe details for this bugger anyway? -- contents intended to represent only personal opinions
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT expo?? Date: 7 Nov 1994 19:12:32 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <39lu70$34e@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <39hn4g$3ju@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In article <39hn4g$3ju@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: -> In article <39gmk9$a3m@news.blkbox.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) -> writes: -> > I understand that there'll be offering a do-it-yourself course in filing -> > Chapter 11 open to all NEXTSTEP registered developers -> Probably the most exciting new course to be offered at the Expo: "How -> to Develop and Maintain an Excellent Working Relationship with the -> Provider of One's Development/User Environment". The Expo is fortunate to -> have enlisted as instructor for this course the pre-eminent expert on this -> topic, Mr. Steve Sarich III of Talus. Second in popularity only to Art Isbell's course: "The relationship of S&M to NEXTSTEP ISVs", known more often by the title: "Thank you sir, may I have another". Art explains in detail how the path to a higher place in heaven for ISV's is best traveled by the independently wealthy. ;-) -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
From: tjones@willamette.edu (Tyler V Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Web sites? Date: 7 Nov 1994 15:38:04 -0800 Organization: The Lost Top Secret Cold Fusion Labratories of Al Capone Distribution: usa Message-ID: <39mdos$gt0@gemini.willamette.edu> I know that NeXT has its own Web site (www.next.com), but what I'm looking for are Web pages that collect pointers to other NeXT info, like FTP sites, software, etc. If anybody knows of such sites, could you please email me with the URL? Thank you very much. -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Tyler Jones, tjones@willamette.edu KILL /--------\ <a href="http://www.willamette.edu/~tjones/">TVJ</a> YOUR < Amethyst > If you want to impress me, accomplish something. CAR \--------/
From: napplegate@gems.vcu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where's the FAQ list located? Message-ID: <1994Nov7.201921.2101@gems.vcu.edu> Date: 7 Nov 94 20:19:21 -0400 Organization: Medical College of Virginia Hello! Could someone point me to a FAQ list concerning NeXT hardware/software/ and perhaps it' s history?? Many Thanks! Nick A. NAPPLEGATE@gems.vcu.edu
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM Date: 8 Nov 1994 03:16:19 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <39mqi3$84g@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> References: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> In article <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> fseto@redwood.gatech.edu (Frank Seto) writes: >I have already posted a message asking if there is a better solution to this, >but it seems like all the Next guru are hiding under a rock... Let me know >if you find a better solution than this. > >: /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom onto an optical disk using "disk -B ...", and >: attempting to boot from that file using "bod(0,0,0)sdmach rootdev=od0", and it >: said "searching for CDROMs", and I could see it reading the CDROM (could hear >: it and see the lights), but then it quit with an exception #4. When I was installing to a PC with a hard disk on SCSI 1, I had the CD-ROM on SCSI 0. This didn't work. Changing the CD-ROM to an id higher than the internal disk fixed things. I don't know if this is the same problem you're having, but as I seem to recall old installs on black hardware having the CD-ROM as a lower id than the internal disk for installation, I thought I'd mention it just in case. - db -- Burns: "Who is that goat legged fellow? I like the cut of his jib!" Smithers: "Prince of Darkness, sir. He's your 11:00."
From: steve@talus.talus.com (Steve Sarich III) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT expo?? Date: 8 Nov 1994 04:03:59 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Distribution: world Message-ID: <39mtbf$2pr@news.blkbox.com> References: <39hn4g$3ju@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In article <39hn4g$3ju@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > > I understand that there'll be offering a > > do-it-yourself course in filing Chapter 11 open > > to all NEXTSTEP registered developers [ etc., etc. > > ] > > > > Probably the most exciting new course to be > offered at the Expo: "How to Develop and > Maintain an Excellent Working Relationship with > the Provider of One's Development/User > Environment". The Expo is fortunate to have > enlisted as instructor for this course the > pre-eminent expert on this topic, Mr. Steve > Sarich III of Talus. Sign up early to reserve > a seat in this course which will undoubtedly be > in great, possibly unprecedented, demand (NOT!!). > > Art Isbell Cubic Solutions > Geeeeeez Art, light up! Is everyone taking themselves to seriously lately or what? You should know that I couldn't possibly teach a class like that. All developers know that it's impossible to have an "excellent working relationship" with NeXT. If I used the words "excellent developer relations" and "NeXT" in the same sentence, someone would think I was trying to give the keynote speach myself....only "visionaries" can get away with piling it that deep. Smile Art....it feels better :-) Steve Sarich
From: fseto@math09.gatech.edu (Frank Seto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 8 Nov 1994 05:26:07 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <39n25f$nf5@mordred.gatech.edu> References: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> <39mqi3$84g@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote: : In article <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> fseto@redwood.gatech.edu (Frank Seto) writes: : >I have already posted a message asking if there is a better solution to this, : >but it seems like all the Next guru are hiding under a rock... Let me know : >if you find a better solution than this. : > : When I was installing to a PC with a hard disk on SCSI 1, I : had the CD-ROM on SCSI 0. This didn't work. Changing the : CD-ROM to an id higher than the internal disk fixed things. : I don't know if this is the same problem you're having, but as : I seem to recall old installs on black hardware having the : CD-ROM as a lower id than the internal disk for installation, : I thought I'd mention it just in case. : - db Interesting. However, the problem I was having is that it still said "no SCSI device" if I disconnect the CD ROM drive. My guess is that the external CD ROM drive also has a terminator. Is there a jumper on the box to set termination? By the way, the hard drive is a Conner CP30540, if it helps any. -Frank
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM Date: 8 Nov 1994 06:44:23 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <39n6o7$kd8@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <39n25f$nf5@mordred.gatech.edu> In article <39n25f$nf5@mordred.gatech.edu> fseto@math09.gatech.edu (Frank Seto) writes: > Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote: > : In article <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> fseto@redwood.gatech.edu (Frank Seto) writes: > > : >I have already posted a message asking if there is a better solution to this, > : >but it seems like all the Next guru are hiding under a rock... Let me know > : >if you find a better solution than this. > : > > : When I was installing to a PC with a hard disk on SCSI 1, I > : had the CD-ROM on SCSI 0. This didn't work. Changing the > : CD-ROM to an id higher than the internal disk fixed things. > > : I don't know if this is the same problem you're having, but as > : I seem to recall old installs on black hardware having the > : CD-ROM as a lower id than the internal disk for installation, > : I thought I'd mention it just in case. > > : - db > > Interesting. However, the problem I was having is that it still said "no > SCSI device" if I disconnect the CD ROM drive. My guess is that the external > CD ROM drive also has a terminator. Is there a jumper on the box to set > termination? By the way, the hard drive is a Conner CP30540, if it helps any. > > -Frank -- Well, I'm sort of late getting into this but here is something to look into. Are you using an external SCSI CD-ROM drive? If yes then read on. Is your SCSI hardware internally terminated or software terminated. If it is internally terminated you will have to remove this (contact the manufacturer) and if it is done by software then there will be an escape sequence (like type Ctrl-B) during startup in order to remove the software controlled terminator. ..Mike. ___________________________________________________________________ | | | ___ ^ ... /\ BEAUTIFUL | | _|_::| ___o '|`^ .. o_ . .. /\ / \ BRITISH | | |:::|:| \ \, ^ '|`|` (`_|/____') / / /\ COLUMBIA | | |:::|:| (o)/ (o) '|`'|`|`` ,,/ . ... . .. / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael C. Cam E-MAIL (NeXT Mail OK) HOME 604-263-7609 | | UBC Materials Eng. mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca WORK 604-822-3122 | |___________________________________________________________________|
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Variable Login Panels Date: 8 Nov 94 09:37:39 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.784287459@coricopat> References: <37je3p$c9q@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub ) writes: >i've just started to play with changing the loginpanels with the dwrite >function. Is it possible to set up the system to change the login panel >every time you log out, without having to type exit at the login prompt? >Right now I have set up the crontab file to dwrite a different tiff for >every day of the week. Since I am running a stand-alone NeXTstation which >gets turned on every morning this should work fine. For further info, >I am running Nextstep vs 3.2. >Please making any suggestions as to shell programming pretty specific, >since I am rather ignorant in this area. It should be no problem to put the dwrite in e.g. /etc/rc.local. Be carefull not to make typos though, or you'll have to reboot standalone and undo the edits. Not much of a prob though. Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de www: http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.3 upgrade Date: 8 Nov 94 14:19:52 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Distribution: usa Message-ID: <neuss.784304392@coricopat> References: <393rqm$j0d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <395eq5$fbr@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes: >I've been trying to avoid learning about things like MIME, That's why you should use a good graphical app to shield you from the ugly details :-))) > but I >do have trouble receiving mail attachments from other mailers - >Microsoft Mail for example. Will 3.3 being MIME-compatible help >here? Yes, after what I heard the 3.3 mail will enable you to exchange Mail attachments with multimedia mailers on other plattforms. This is good big time. Except for the Eloquent developers.. Sigh. Anybody knows how much Eloquent is compared to $199 the 3.3 upgrade costs? Since I have Motorola, what I need is basically the new mail tool. Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de www: http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: david@colossus.pfm-mainz.de (David Andel) Subject: Ensuing - or why is it so complicated to process an order? Organization: WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 19:15:11 GMT Message-ID: <39oinv$h1@colossus.PFM-Mainz.DE> Sender: news@pfm.PFM-Mainz.DE (news of pfm) Is it usual that nobody at Ensuing ever replies to Emails? No answer at: cdrom@ensuing.com or Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com More than a month ago now, I ordered five "Fatted Calf" CD-ROM's (I would take six now) for the special User Group price, but nobody seems to be interested there. There will be the day when I initiate (and post on a regular base) a Top Ten list for not answering Emails or the worst service. Is this the beginning of a development against private NEXTSTEP customers? What can be done? Fight back? How? -- David Andel (WiNG) @aBlackNeXT
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT expo?? Date: 8 Nov 1994 18:14:55 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <39of6v$be9@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <39mtbf$2pr@news.blkbox.com> In article <39mtbf$2pr@news.blkbox.com> steve@talus.talus.com (Steve Sarich III) writes: > Geeeeeez Art, light up! I do, whenever possible :-) Is everyone taking themselves to seriously lately > or what? You should know that I couldn't possibly teach a class like > that. All developers know that it's impossible to have an "excellent > working relationship" with NeXT. If I used the words "excellent developer > relations" and "NeXT" in the same sentence, someone would think I was > trying to give the keynote speach myself....only "visionaries" can get > away with piling it that deep. > But Steve, this is why your course would be in such demand. You seemed to have perfected the vendor-developer relationship through years and years of effort :-) > Smile Art....it feels better :-) > I smile every time I read one of your postings (but I'm shaking my head side to side at the same time). Steve, quit shooting yourself in the foot ... it feels better :-) --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: nik@tiuk.ti.com Newsgroups: comp.speech,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: ANNOUNCE: rsynth-2.0 released. Followup-To: comp.speech Date: 8 Nov 1994 18:31:22 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Ltd. Message-ID: <39og5q$roo@superb.csc.ti.com> Keywords: speech,synthesis A new release of rsynth is now available. rsynth is a "public domain" text-to-speech system assembled from a a variety of sources. This release has been tested on: Sun SPARCs - Solaris2.3 and SunOS4.1.3 HPUX SGI irix4.x (may be problems on irix5 see README.sgi) linux Previous release worked on NeXT, and an attempt has been made to comprehend it in the "configure", but I have been unable to test it. Anyone willing to test on NeXT please email me. This release is mainly a software cleanup release, but there are some new features: * Now has GNU autoconf generated "configure" script to build Makefile. * Supports CMU or "beep" format dictionaries by loading them into a GNU gdbm file. (URLs for FTPing dictionaries are in the README). *note* - requires GNU gdbm to be available, it is available from all the GNU mirror sites. (I use gdbm-1.7.3 but some earlier versions work as well.) The CMU dictionary has a very liberal copyright, so should be usable by almost anyone. * Uses stress marks in the dictionaries to affect intonation. * Sun/NeXT format .au/.snd files now writable on all platforms (as this format has a header it should be convertible via "sox" to most other formats.) * Supports "say --help" to give basic command line option details. rsynth is available via anonymous FTP from : ftp://svr-ftp.eng.cam.ac.uk/comp.speech/sources/rsynth-2.0.tar.gz (I am sure Tony would welcome other sites holding the sources too to reduce the load. Please let me know where they are and who to contact when updates are available.) Please let me know if you get it to work, particularly ports to new platforms. Please not that this is a private project and Texas Instruments is not responsible in any manner. Nick Ing-Simmons via nik@tiuk.ti.com
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Date: 8 Nov 1994 20:04:39 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39olkn$o5f@potogold.rmii.com> References: <39hdi0$9dq@news.ycc.yale.edu> In article <39hdi0$9dq@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > In article <39b2e0$l25@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel > -> > Gee, you wouldn't happen to sell these object.stations? > > -> Why, as a matter of fact we do. Let me know if you'd like more > -> information. > > Thanks for the offer. Let us know when you get some > scruples, and we'll think about it then. > Sorry for the tongue-in-cheek lapse. I guess I should've added a ;-) -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Date: 8 Nov 1994 20:05:59 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39oln7$o5h@potogold.rmii.com> References: <39hdi0$9dq@news.ycc.yale.edu> In article <39hdi0$9dq@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > In article <39b2e0$l25@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel (DELETED) > Thanks for the offer. Let us know when you get some > scruples, and we'll think about it then. > Sorry for the tongue-in-cheek lapse. I guess I should've added a ;-) -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Date: 8 Nov 1994 20:06:36 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39oloc$o5k@potogold.rmii.com> References: <39hdi0$9dq@news.ycc.yale.edu> In article <39hdi0$9dq@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > In article <39b2e0$l25@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel (DELETED) > Thanks for the offer. Let us know when you get some > scruples, and we'll think about it then. > Sorry for the tongue-in-cheek lapse. I guess I should've added a ;-) -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN The opinions expressed buy me are mine alone.
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations? Date: 8 Nov 1994 20:07:07 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39olpb$o5m@potogold.rmii.com> References: <39hdi0$9dq@news.ycc.yale.edu> In article <39hdi0$9dq@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > Thanks for the offer. Let us know when you get some > scruples, and we'll think about it then. Sorry for the tongue-in-cheek lapse. I guess I should've added a ;-) -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN The opinions expressed buy me are mine alone.
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Gekko systems Date: 8 Nov 1994 21:40:54 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I've just gotten a nice little gift from my department that might enable me to replace my black box (nice though it may be) with an HP 712/60. I would of course be putting NS on it. I haven't seen much on the net about how happy or unhappy people seem to be with their Gekko's and NS. I guess I have a vague notion that people are pretty pleased generally. Before I make the plunge, I was hoping to have this decision reinforced by some of you out in netland. Thanks much - Jon -- Jon Haveman Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PV Wave for NS? Date: 8 Nov 1994 22:33:44 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <39ouc8$5en@network.ucsd.edu> About 6 months ago there was an announcement that PV Wave would be available for NextStep around Q3 of this year, including a palette for IB. Cost ~$1,700.00. Is PV Wave available for NS yet? Thanks, jk
From: guptaa@alleg.edu ( Azaq of Clan Smoke Jaguar ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics Subject: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Date: 9 Nov 1994 02:11:05 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics Hello, I am trying to find out how to transfer GIF/JPEG/TIFF (etc) files from a NeXT to Amiga (the IFF format). Disks formatted on the Amiga are not compatible with the NeXT. However, I believe that there are amiga utils availabale that let IBM DOS files transfer to amiga. So, DOS seems the right alternative as I can use DOS files on the NeXT. If someone can tell me what to do, or where to find such utils, I would appreciate it much. Please email me directly, for I do not frequent these groups often. Thank you. Ani. guptaa@alleg.edu
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MAILING LIST: Enterprise Objects Framework mailing List Date: 9 Nov 1994 00:14:23 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <39p48v$hdj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <39ch0t$ein@digifix.digifix.com> <Cywwn8.82o@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: >In article <39ch0t$ein@digifix.digifix.com> William Shipley <wjs@omnigroup.com> >writes: >> Omnigroup has created a new mailing list for discussion of features, >> bugs, programming, etc... concerning the NeXT Enterprise Objects >> Framework >> To Subscribe.. >> send email to >> listproc@omnigroup.com >You know, it would really be nice if people would either forgo braindead >LISTSERV email auto-subscribers and answer the mail by hand or >get a decent auto-subscriber. >Just what are the how-to-subscribe details for this bugger anyway? Hmm...sounds like a mission-critical app to me...We'd probably buy one... (Hint Hint Nudge Nudge) :-) -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics From: wulfraed@netcom.com (Dennis Lee Bieber) Subject: Re: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Message-ID: <wulfraedCyzM68.M14@netcom.com> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 06:32:32 GMT AmigaDOS 2.1 (if not 2.04) included a version of CrossDOS. Activating (mounting) the CrossDOS devices will let your floppy drive access 720K MS-DOS format floppies -- No special tricks needed, they are just a different capacity drive to the Amiga (with CrossDOS)... -- > ================================================================== < > This | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG < > Space |------------------------------------ < > Under | wulfraed@netcom.com < > Construction | D.Bieber@GEnie.GEIS.com < > ================================================================== <
From: jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: 09 Nov 94 09:38:01 Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila> References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain ->I haven't seen much on the net about how happy or unhappy ->people seem to be with their Gekko's and NS. I guess I have a ->vague notion that people are pretty pleased generally. -> ->Before I make the plunge, I was hoping to have this decision ->reinforced by some of you out in netland. -> ->Thanks much - Jon i'm running a 712/80 since june with Nextstep. Quite frankly, compared to my previous turbo-color it's a big progress : much faster basically. There are still some bugs (serial driver e.g) but they 'll be corrected with version 3.3. I had also some problems to find the same applications running (mathematica not delivered, newsgrazer replaced by newsbase and mmedit, and a few other but the situation is vastly improving). My feeling is Gecko running NeXTSTEP is great. Jean-FranÛois --- Jean-Francois Boisvieux Departement de Biomathematiques Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere 75013 Paris France jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr (NeXT mail O.K) tel : (33) 1 45 86 19 98 fax : (33) 1 45 83 87 20
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where's the FAQ list located? Date: 9 Nov 1994 03:39:31 GMT Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <39pg9j$lsd@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <1994Nov7.201921.2101@gems.vcu.edu> In article <1994Nov7.201921.2101@gems.vcu.edu> napplegate@gems.vcu.edu writes: -> Could someone point me to a FAQ list concerning NeXT hardware/software/ -> and perhaps it' s history?? The FAQs are under revision right now. The old versions should be stored on ftp.cs.orst.edu. -- Nathan Janette Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Voice: 203 432 5065 Fax: 203 432 3923
From: frantziu@radium.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Joerg von Frantzius) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Solars+OpenStep? Date: 9 Nov 1994 12:21:34 GMT Organization: Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universit"at Bonn, Institut Message-ID: <39qesf$3ap@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> This won't be a new question, I'm afraid: When is Solaris with OpenStep supposed to be shipping? Will OpenStep replace Sun's OpenWindows stuff completeley? Will there be a separate OpenStep developer version that will cost extra? Thanks for any answers...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: drew@fnbc.com (Drew Davidson) Subject: Re: NeXT expo?? Message-ID: <1994Nov8.202344.23009@fnbc.com> Sender: news@fnbc.com Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA References: <39gmk9$a3m@news.blkbox.com> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 20:23:44 GMT In article <39gmk9$a3m@news.blkbox.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: > In article <39due7$1jc@ftcnews.scs.ag.gov> rich@tongue1 (Richard D. > Warner) writes: > >[reasonable request deleted] [unremitting bile deleted] > > Steve Sarich Jeez, who peed in you cornflakes this morning? -- +--------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Drew Davidson | Drew: "Sorry to disturb you, Frank" | | First National Bank of Chicago | Frank: "That's ok, I was already | | drew@fnbc.com (NeXTmail, MIME) | disturbed." | +--------< All opinions expressed here are mine and mine alone >---------+
From: mueller@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: XSB-Prolog on NeXTStep Date: 9 Nov 1994 15:17:53 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <39qp71$jpv@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hello, we installed XSB-Prolog on NeXT and would like to integrate it into a Project-Builder-Application. In the XSB-manual they say, Chapter 11, that XSB just provides an C-interface for Sun/Sparc and Intel architectures with Linux. Has anybody got some information about an XSB-C/Objective-C for NeXTStep ...? That would be great. Thanks in advance (Information about other AI-tools for NeXT are also welcome.) -- -- Robert M ller Arbeitsgruppe TheMPO Institut f r Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation Universit tskliniken Mainz 55101 Mainz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Printing rtfd pages Message-ID: <1994Nov7.121904.26921@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 12:19:04 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I have a manual I want to print that is stored in a group of rtfd directories. I have two problems. 1) I need to estimate how many pages will print, something like wc for ASCII files. 2) I want to print the even pages, flip the stack and print the odd pages, like some of the PS programs out there. Can you offer any ideas or suggestion? -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics From: wulfraed@netcom.com (Dennis Lee Bieber) Subject: Re: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Message-ID: <wulfraedCz0C7s.DKK@netcom.com> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> <wulfraedCyzM68.M14@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 15:55:04 GMT Whoops, I neglected the other half of the problem: Conversion from TIFF to other formats. There may be some PD converters floating around. I'm presently awaiting the arrival of the ProConversionPack additions to ArtDepartmentPro, which includes TIFF loader. -- > ================================================================== < > This | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG < > Space |------------------------------------ < > Under | wulfraed@netcom.com < > Construction | D.Bieber@GEnie.GEIS.com < > ================================================================== <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fender@netcom.com (Nemtrovski) Subject: NeXT to Mac Sound File Conversion Message-ID: <fenderCz0E51.DEF@netcom.com> Summary: NeXT to Mac Sound Format Conversion Keywords: NeXT, Snd, aiff, wav Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 16:36:36 GMT I need a utility that can convert snd, aiff, wav, etc., formats on the NeXT (Black) to Macintosh file formats. I am using Digital Ear, from Metaresearch, and Soudnworks, which produces various sound file formats, including hcom for the Macintosh. However, hcom is not current;y upported by commercial Macintosh packagers, such as SoundEdit or SoundDesigner. I have various shareward, from Big Green CD #2 and Fatted Cow, yet they only support .snd to .macsnd conversion, which I am not sure is what is supported by the above mentioned commerical packages. Please advise. Jim Nemerovski fender@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Subject: Looking for someone to cut a CD-ROM to backup files Message-ID: <CyyrBD.BG@pages.com> Keywords: CD-ROM, backup Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) Organization: Pages Software Inc Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 19:26:01 GMT I have been combing through my dozen+ optical disks, collecting files I wish to save off of each. I now have some 500MB of such files, a result of six years of working on NeXT systems. Not trusting either OD media (several of which I've had to manually fsck) or my aging OD drive, I'd like to write all these files onto a CD-ROM compatible with the NeXT file system so that I can get to them without wondering each time I load an OD into the cube whether I'll actually be able to read it. :-) Does anyone here run a business that offers such a service or know of someone who does? I can deliver the files on tape, hard disk, or even OD. Please reply via e-mail; I'll let everyone know what I find out. ..bruce.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce F. Webster | Am a flamer, goateed, pallid, overweight, Chief Tech Officer | Willing to pull two shifts, then (hell) a third, Pages Software Inc | To save a session from a deadlocked state; bwebster@pages.com | At times, (to put it mildly) unrestrained-- (619)492-9050 x212 | Almost, at times, a nerd. -- Jeff Duntemann ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: freyrb@rhi.hi.is (Freyr Bergsteinsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Mac under NeXT won't accept A4 as default Date: 9 Nov 1994 19:45:41 GMT Organization: University of Iceland Message-ID: <39r8t5$fmr@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> I'm running uShare to let my Mac communicate with my NeXT printer (through a NeXT station, of course). For some reason the Mac always takes the default setting of Letter as paper size, but I want it to be A4. Anybody got a clue? -- Freyr Bergsteinsson | freyr@nextmenn.is Head of software development | freyrb@rhi.hi.is ----------------------------------------+-------------------- NextMenn Inc. (soon to be Box Inc.) | Tel: +354-1-17722 Brautarholt 8 | Fax: 101 Reykjavik +---------------------+-------------------- Iceland |
From: 1@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Moshe Pamensky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 9 Nov 1994 23:18:01 GMT Organization: Jerusalem1 at DataServe LTD. Information services Message-ID: <39rlb9$ann@axil.datasrv.co.il>
From: eshneken@glue.umd.edu (Edward A. Shnekendorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.edu Subject: Need Information on NeXT related issues Date: 9 Nov 1994 20:07:24 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <39ra5s$7a@mojo.eng.umd.edu> Keywords: next, computer, help Hello, I'm working on a proposal (for a class) to replace the NeXT workstations in the general computer labs at the University of Maryland with some other (yet undetermined) workstation type. I am primarily looking for information regarding: 1) maintenance and parts availibility issues with the NeXTs. 2) cost effectivness for a general-purpose educational laboratory. 3) benefits/drawbacks for use in a university laboratory. If anyone is experienced with these issues, I would greatly appreciate some email from you so that I could ask you a few questions. Also, if anyone is aware of any journal or magazine articles which may address some of these topics, I would also appreciate if you could mail me a cite (doesn't have to be complete or anything -- if you just remember what magazine and the approximate date I can do the digging) that would also be great. I don't typically read this newsgroup so please direct all replies to: eshneken@eng.umd.edu. thanks in advance for your help, Ed. -- Edward A. Shnekendorf | Computer Science '96 NET: eshneken@eng.umd.edu | University of Maryland WEB: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~eshneken/ | at College Park
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz (Oren Golan) Subject: Re: NeXT to Mac Sound File Conversion Message-ID: <Cz0rFv.M0C@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago References: <fenderCz0E51.DEF@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 21:23:55 GMT In article <fenderCz0E51.DEF@netcom.com> fender@netcom.com (Nemtrovski) writes: > I need a utility that can convert snd, aiff, wav, etc., formats on the > NeXT (Black) to Macintosh file formats. I am using Digital Ear, from > Metaresearch, and Soudnworks, which produces various sound file formats, > including hcom for the Macintosh. However, hcom is not current;y upported > by commercial Macintosh packagers, such as SoundEdit or SoundDesigner. > > I have various shareward, from Big Green CD #2 and Fatted Cow, yet they > only support .snd to .macsnd conversion, which I am not sure is what is > supported by the above mentioned commerical packages. > Try GISO.app, available from the regular ftp sites (e.g. ftp.cs.orst.edu//pub/next/binaries/sound/ ). Oren. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get." Oren Golan Ph: (03) 479-8347 Computer Science Dept. Fax: (03) 479-8529 University of Otago e-mail: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz Dunedin, New-Zealand.
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Disk benchmark results Date: 10 Nov 1994 00:51:19 -0500 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <39sccn$omv@jujube.cs.umd.edu> Howdy, I just did some benchmarking on NS 3.2 with iozone (using 40 MB files). My primary reason was to justify the cost of a faster SCSI controller (from a Adaptec 1542C to a BusLogic 445C). While I got a 34% increase in read speed (not as high as I hoped), I can now finally use my PAS16 sound card (which, BTW, worked nicely under NT but not under NS). Anyway, I configured my BL-445C to use burst mode VESA and synchronis SCSI. And I'm using the latest BusLogic drivers from NeXT. Are there any hints to making it faster? Comments: 1. The NeXTstation turbo had (by far) the fastest write, and the slowest read. Why? 2. The ALR and Dell both have a Micropolis 4110. The only difference was the controller. Why would the PCI card be so much faster for reads? The bus speeds (VL vs. PCI) are about the same. Did Talus write a really good driver? Does the NCR chipset make the difference? ALR Evolution V (P60) with 40MB RAM Micropolis 4110 with Adaptec 1542c Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...71.273688 seconds Reading the file...30.450088 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 588478 bytes/second for writing the file 1377435 bytes/second for reading the file Fujitsu 2263 with Adaptec 1542c Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...118.013214 seconds Reading the file...72.854759 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 355409 bytes/second for writing the file 575707 bytes/second for reading the file Micropolis 4110 with BusLogic 445C Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...70.050909 seconds Reading the file...22.736977 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 598750 bytes/second for writing the file 1844706 bytes/second for reading the file Fujitsu 2263 with BusLogic 445C Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...117.770313 seconds Reading the file...74.559772 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 356142 bytes/second for writing the file 562542 bytes/second for reading the file NeXTstation Turbo with 32MB RAM Fujitsu 2263 Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...54.693479 seconds Reading the file...133.355643 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 766874 bytes/second for writing the file 314520 bytes/second for reading the file Dell XPS-90 (P90) with 32MB RAM Micropolis 4110 with NCR PCI SCSI controller (825) (Talus drivers 1.02) Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...71.938343 seconds Reading the file...14.566971 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 583041 bytes/second for writing the file 2879324 bytes/second for reading the file -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) Subject: Need MPEG and/or .mov players Message-ID: <Cz15uK.LK2@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 02:35:08 GMT I need to obtain a mpeg player and a .mov player for NSfip 3.2. Freeware or shareware only w/ source code preferred. I want to use it with OmniWeb. Thanks, --Felix coco@erika.cb.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.3 Educational Price New... Message-ID: <1994Nov10.011650.6295@rivers> From: bm01@uwrf.edu (Brian S Mogged) Date: 10 Nov 94 01:16:49 CST Okay, as a poor college student at University of Wisconsin - River Falls I have the eductational discounts available to me. So here is the question. I am really getting into NeXTStep and I am wondering what the educational price for NeXTStep 3.3 will be (if there is any change from $299 for both user and devolper version of NeXTStep) and when will it be availble to buy at that educational price... I just REALLY hope it is before Christmas break for I really want to be distracted then ;).. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> < Brian.s.Mogged@Uwrf.edu <- send all mail to this address.... > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need MPEG and/or .mov players Date: 10 Nov 1994 12:36:44 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <39t44s$ncl@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <Cz15uK.LK2@nntpa.cb.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <Cz15uK.LK2@nntpa.cb.att.com> coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) writes: > I need to obtain a mpeg player and a .mov player for NSfip 3.2. > Freeware or shareware only w/ source code preferred. I want to use it > with OmniWeb. > > Thanks, > --Felix > coco@erika.cb.att.com mpg: Movie.app version 2.51.1 (at the usual archives) mov: NEXTIME.app version 1.0 (with your 3.3 upgrade) PS: I'm in the process of compiling ToMPEG.app as triple-fat (obese), so Intel and HP users will soon be able to replace all fat *.anims with compressed *.mpg files. It'll happen as soon as some ftp problems get fixed. --Bob-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman) Subject: Re: 3.3 Upgrade Pricing (Are we 'Black' NeXTs fools ?) Message-ID: <Cz211L.43s@ncifcrf.gov> Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center References: <CypMCC.vo@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <1994Nov5.234710.1292@seer.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:48:57 GMT In article <1994Nov5.234710.1292@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul_Lynch@seer (Paul Lynch) writes: >In article <CypMCC.vo@shinto.nbg.sub.org> tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas >Engel) writes: >> Now it seams to me as if old NeXT guys are the only fools out here in >NeXT >> academia land because ...(please tell me something has changed) ... we >are >> not allowed to simple buy a new release. As far as I remember WE have to >> upgrade all the way from what we own. 2.1 -> 3.0 -> 3.1 -> 3.2 -> 3.3 -> >> 4.0: > >I agree that it is unecessarily confusing. Certainly with 3.1 NeXT were >requiring people to take the intermediate upgrades. However, that didn't >seem to apply with the upgrade to 3.2. I would assume from what I have >seen so far that you can upgrade from any release direct to 3.3. > I've been told by a NeXT rep. that it will be possible to upgrade black hardware from 3.2 -> 4.0 directly, which makes further sense given that there will be no 3.3 developer. David Kelman
From: bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem: control key doesn't work with WM Date: 10 Nov 1994 15:37:54 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <39teoi$cp9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> We just traded three NeXT machines for 3 Cannon Object Stations. So far, almost everything is perfect, except for one or two expected bumps... At first I thought the control key stuff was a keyboard problem or something. But, the problem is that some users can't, say, make links to files, and some users can... Any ideas as to why this might be happening will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Cary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) Subject: Re: PV Wave for NS? Message-ID: <1994Nov10.042033.4446@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group References: <39ouc8$5en@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 04:20:33 GMT In article <39ouc8$5en@network.ucsd.edu> jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) writes: > About 6 months ago there was an announcement that PV Wave would be > available for NextStep around Q3 of this year, including a palette for IB. > Cost ~$1,700.00. Is PV Wave available for NS yet? I called Visual Numerics about this very subject last week. What I got is that they are trying to reach a decision on if to mass market it. The port was done under contract for a financial house. The marketing guy did say they'd sell single copies, as is, with no support or future enchancements, for $8,000. I didn't tell him my thoughts on this. The MS-Win version costs about $900. A ten fold increase in price. More than the hardware box. This is absurd. If you want to see the program come for the NeXT in general, I urge you to contact Visual Numerics in Boulder and tell them there is a demand, mention that HP & Sun ports and tell them that NS users are not going to pay the "Unix User Tax" -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (NeXT Mail OK) PGP key available -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: 10 Nov 94 10:35:50 Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <schaefer.94Nov10103550@syrtis> References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain >I haven't seen much on the net about how happy or unhappy >people seem to be with their Gekko's and NS. I guess I have a >vague notion that people are pretty pleased generally. Well, I am VERY pleased with mine. But you will definitely want more than 32 MB of RAM.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk (Paul Gould) Subject: Re: Looking for e-mail address of Cub'x Systems Message-ID: <Cz29pD.Mn1@liverpool.ac.uk> Sender: news@liverpool.ac.uk (News System) Organization: The University of Liverpool References: <39loes$s60@sirio.cineca.it> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 16:56:01 GMT In article <39loes$s60@sirio.cineca.it> Arrigo Benedetti writes: >I have been told that the X11R5 port for NS formerly sold by Cub'x >is now distributed by a new software vendor. Does anyone have their >e-mail address? Try cubx@intuisys.com Paul -- Paul Gould, Network Support Officer Tel: +44 (0)51-794 5118 CTI Centre for Biology, Donnan Laboratories Fax: +44 (0)51-794 4401 University of Liverpool, PO Box 147 email: P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk Liverpool L69 3BX, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Michael McMahon Subject: JOB: Swiss Bank Corporation seeks NEXTSTEP developers. Message-ID: <1994Nov10.174603.16337@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:46:03 GMT Swiss Bank Corporation has multiple full-time opportunities for developers and project managers experienced in NEXTSTEP. The candidates will lead in the development and deployment of NEXTSTEP applications within Swiss Bank Corporation. Swiss Bank Corporation is a leading global financial institution committed to delivering innovative financial products and services to our customers. Our Information Technology group is responsible for the development of several financial systems for Swiss Bank Corporation globally. As part of our Information Technology strategy, we have made a broad commitment to NEXTSTEP technology. The positions will be based in New York City. Swiss Bank Corporation offers excellent opportunities to work on exciting projects in a state-of-the-art environment. If you have at least one year of experience in NEXTSTEP and Objective 'C' application development, knowledge of relational database technology, 4+ years of overall experience, EOF experience is a plus, and an interest in developing sophisticated financial applications. We are looking for bright, enthusiastic people with experience in NEXTSTEP application development. We offer an outstanding compensation and benefits packages. For confidential consideration, please send resume with salary history and requirements to: Michael McMahon Swiss Bank Corporation P.O. Box 395 - Church Street Station New York, New York, U.S.A 10008 Telephone: 212-574-3000 Fax: 212-574-6255 E-Mail: mcmahon@swissbank.com [NeXTMail] ---------------------- Michael McMahon Swiss Bank Corporation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mstrock@eskimo.com (Mike Strock) Subject: Setting up NeXTStep 3.2 for TCP/IP - HOW? Message-ID: <Cz2As9.H0r@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:19:05 GMT I've just gotten NeXTStep 3.2 for Intel. I got it installed, and I'd like to get going with the TCP/IP stuff. I have all the numbers I need (gateway, nameserver, etc) but I don't know how/where to plug these numbers in. Could someone send me (email preferred) directions on getting my machine up with TCP/IP? I'm sorry. I'm not Unix literate, but I'm learning. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have - my IP address, my gateway IP address and the DNS server address. Where do they go? Thanks! Mike Strock mstrock@eskimo.com
From: Mark Anenberg <marka@Eng.Sun.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solars+OpenStep? Date: 10 Nov 1994 19:50:34 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <39ttia$6p4@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <39qesf$3ap@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> > This won't be a new question, I'm afraid: When is Solaris with OpenStep > supposed to be shipping? The last public date I heard was first half of '95. > > Will OpenStep replace Sun's OpenWindows stuff completeley? It is designed to coexist with other Sun supported environments. It will have its own next-like window manager, if thats your preference; but you can also run OpenStep apps under OpenWindows or CDE, assuming you have the correct X-server (modified for alpha compositing); they will just get framed like motif (or whatever) windows. > > Will there be a separate OpenStep developer version that will cost extra? > > Thanks for any answers... Yes the runtime and developer products are separate. the developer product is actually being sold as a SunPro product; since they do all the development tools; I suspect that the developer product will cost considerably more than the runtime product, since that is usually the way things are... Mark Anenberg OpenStep Development Team SunSoft, Inc.
From: patel@fairway.ecn.purdue.edu (Umesh H Patel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mosiac for NeXT Date: 10 Nov 1994 20:23:00 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Message-ID: <39tvf4$b80@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Does anybody know if there is a Mosaic for the NeXT? Umesh Patel patel@ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Parking the Hard Drive Message-ID: <ezimmerm.1.000D6753@UWyo.Edu> From: ezimmerm@UWyo.Edu Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:24:07 Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming Salutations! I'm going to be traveling to pick up a Cube this weekend. I want to know if there is a way to park the heads of the drive so that no data will be damaged while in transit. Please e-mail any suggestions to: ezimmerm@uwyo.edu Thanks, Gene ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
From: borealis@cais2.cais.com (Mborealis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Old Megapixel question Date: 10 Nov 1994 18:45:12 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Message-ID: <39tpno$12r@news.cais.com> I have an old 2bit (15"?) Megapixel display for an 030 cube. The Megapixel display is not working. Upon close inspection, It appears that at least part of the problem is the diode D1 on the circuit board. It is cracked and discolored (from heat, I assume). I cannot read the value stamped on the diode. It looks like something very close to D44068. I want to try to replace this part to see if I have a monitor, before I have to spend real money :-( What is the value of D1 on the Megapixel circuit board? Thanks for your time. Greg Gainer borealis@cais.com -or- gainer@aepco.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:56:45 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <kikbfxC00iV5Q7v4ck@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <schaefer.94Nov10103550@syrtis> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 10-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by schaefer@syrtis.geology. > Well, I am VERY pleased with mine. But you will definitely want > more than 32 MB of RAM. Why? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: mann@austin.wireline.slb.com (Dave Mann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEED HELP WITH NEXT SYSTEM Date: 10 Nov 1994 20:32:08 GMT Organization: Schlumberger Austin Systems Center Sender: mann@cedrick (Dave Mann) Distribution: world Message-ID: <39u008$8kq@maggie.austin.wireline.slb.com> Keywords: HELP NEXT Help, a local store has a NEXT sytem for sale. We are not sure what happened, but now when we try to start it up we just get a login prompt and are unable to get any further than that. Maybe one of our customers changed the login passwords? We tried to reload from the CDs but still get no further than a login. Can anyone help? Thanks, David Mann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXt WWW apps? Message-ID: <1994Nov10.180752.1092@news.wesleyan.edu> From: matt@lo-cal.music70.wesleyan.edu (matt rogalsky) Date: 10 Nov 94 18:07:51 -0400 Distribution: world Keywords: NeXT www mosaic Can anyone direct me to a Mosaic-type application for the NeXT, available by FTP? thanks very much Matt@lo-cal.music70.wesleyan.edu
From: barrera@bnr.ca (David Barrera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Solars+OpenStep? Date: 10 Nov 1994 16:28:52 -0600 Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <39u6r4$pln@crchh7e6.bnr.ca> References: <39qesf$3ap@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> <39ttia$6p4@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> > > Yes the runtime and developer products are separate. the > developer product is actually being sold as a SunPro product; > since they do all the development tools; I suspect that the > developer product will cost considerably more than the runtime > product, since that is usually the way things are... > > Mark Anenberg OpenStep Development Team > SunSoft, Inc. > Hi all, I'm a real newbie for this group, sorry if I offend anyone. Anyways, I read that OpenStep might have a port to Windows, whatever that means. So, does anyone have any information about this? Thanks, -Dave
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXt WWW apps? Date: 10 Nov 1994 19:08:41 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39ucm9$fbi@anshar.shadow.net> References: <1994Nov10.180752.1092@news.wesleyan.edu> matt rogalsky (matt@lo-cal.music70.wesleyan.edu) wrote: : Can anyone direct me to a Mosaic-type application for the NeXT, : available by FTP? OmniWeb, by Omni Development. Available on ftp.omnigroup.com - Jay
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mosiac for NeXT Date: 10 Nov 1994 19:10:27 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <39ucpj$fcd@anshar.shadow.net> References: <39tvf4$b80@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Umesh H Patel (patel@fairway.ecn.purdue.edu) wrote: : Does anybody know if there is a Mosaic for the NeXT? You can use NCSA Mosaic in conjunction with a NeXT X-Server app like co-Xist. However, there is an excellent NS-native WWW client called OmniWeb available on ftp.omnigroup.com - Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: Trouble with new boot drive (black). Help Message-ID: <Cz30KJ.6vn@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: na Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 02:36:18 GMT Hi. Here is the description of my problem. I purchased an external drive, a Fujitsu 500Mb (model 2624F) for a NeXTstation to replace my noisy boot drive (also external), a Fujitsu M2263SA. After successfully using the BuidDisk App to make the new drive bootable, I encouter the following problems: 1) When booting from the new drive which I assigned SCSI id =0, I get these messages: scsi unexpected msg:1 unexpected msg : : fifo level = 0 transfer count =0 booting from scsi target 1 lun 0 The system for some reason has trouble finding the new boot drive, looks for scsi id=1(the internal drive) and finally decides to boot using the new drive. 2) I do not have a login window. How do I set up one? 3) I do not own the files in the new boot drive, that is I can't change or overwrite them. Why? How do I go about to solve these problems? Your help will be very appreciated. Bye, Ze Tomas
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WM and Workspace dwrites Date: 10 Nov 1994 23:49:52 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411110549.AA24453@alleg.EDU> [on NS m68k v 3.2...] With a little help from my friends (Hi Carl ;-) I just discovered something really fun (if everyone else already knew this, then sorry for being silly here) dwrite Workspace MainFileViewer NO on the next login, the File Viewer will have an X at the top right corner, meaning you can get rid of it if you want to (get a new one by "new viewer" dwrite WM NXAutoLaunch NO lets you swtich off WM from running on login in the Workspace preferences. dwrite Workspace DockLaunchFlags 2 My dock is WM, preferences, Fiend, recycler, Stuart. This dwrite just starts preferences on login. Why would anyone want to do this? Well, I don't know. For me, I often am just curious to see if I have any mail waiting, so I'll do a 'console' login (type in console rather than username and then hit return, then login). But of course there is often a NeXTMail message that I can't read, or something else I'd like to do that I can't do, and so I decide to log in 'for real' which means I have to logout, wait for the loginpanel, and then log back in. With the new set-up, I can log in, run Stuart to check my mail, etc, and if I decide that I want to start anything else, including WM, I can do so. "Ah" you say "but how do you log out? Don't you end up starting WM just to logout?" No! All I do is command-alt-click on the WM icon and the logout panel comes up! WARNING: I haven't done a whole lot without my WM running, so I don't know if there are any inherent problems I haven't run into. Use with caution. (I know 'open -a' doesn't work without WM running) Bonus question: For ten imaginary points, can anyone tell me what Workspace DockHideFlags 1 does? thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Re: Gekko systems Message-ID: <1994Nov11.133406.20495@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 94 13:34:06 GMT In article <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila>, <jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr> wrote: >->I haven't seen much on the net about how happy or unhappy >->people seem to be with their Gekko's and NS. >-> >->Thanks much - Jon > >i'm running a 712/80 since june with Nextstep. Quite frankly, >compared to my previous turbo-color it's a big progress : much faster >basically. There are still some bugs (serial driver e.g) but they 'll >be corrected with version 3.3. I had also some problems to find the >same applications running (mathematica not delivered, newsgrazer >replaced by newsbase and mmedit, and a few other but the situation is >vastly improving). >My feeling is Gecko running NeXTSTEP is great. > I am also running the 712/80 with the 21 in monitor and 32 M of RAM. For the most part I am also very happy with it. It is very fast, and a big step up from my non-Turbo mono slab. The HP service is very good. The Gecko is much more expensive than similarly configured Intel systems. I wonder if someone who has seen HPPA on a 712/80 and NSFIP on a P90 side by side can comment? Now I'll concentrate on the negative side. Let me preface this by saying that I really like the machine. I just haven't seen some of the following things mentioned on the net yet. First of all, 32M of RAM seems barely enough. I may have to buy some more once Mathematica comes out. HP memory is not outrageously expensive, though. The video is a little funny sometimes--especially the default font settings for the menu items and for the file names. For some reason these "thin" (ie not bold) fonts seem to fool the color recovery system, and the characters look blurry. If you look closely it is because some of the pixels next to the characters are shaded gray. Under HPUX the system uses thicker, larger fonts. You can, of course make this kind of change in preferences. It is a minor nuisance, and you don't notice it if you sit back from the screen a bit, or if you have the system use a bold font face. I also don't like the keyboard and mouse. Both are slow and stiff. You can use any PS/2 style mouse, and, I imagine, a variety of keyboards. I have plugged in another mouse and found that it worked. I haven't tried a 3rd party keyboard. The sound on the Gecko could be improved. For example, at full volume you can barely hear the "tink" sounds in the BoinkOut demo. I think amplified speakers are the only answer here. The software situation is frustrating right now. For me, the main thing missing Mathematica. WRI says January. As others have commented the fact that you can't compile "tri-fat" on the Intel or Motorola machines means that many shareware and 3rd party products are not available for the Gecko. I don't know that this is likely to change much. Of course, for things released with source code, if you have NS developer, you can just compile them, though sometimes even this is not enough. For example some of the BackSpace animations look jerky on the Gecko (WorldSpace especially)). Also, the upcoming 3.3 release will not be available for the HP's. If you buy a Gecko to replace a NeXT, be prepared to invest in cables. The serial ports on the back are differs from the one on the back of the nexts, and there are only two ethernet ports: the missing one is the coaxial cable type (thin). HP wants around $200 for a transducer (an adaptor for the coax type connector), but you can get one for around $40 from the mail order places. I hope I didn't give a negative impression of the machine. I really like it. The above are just a few things I think people might like to know before investing in one. -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: dahl@panda.halcyon.com (Austin Dahl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Calling a service from a csh script Date: 11 Nov 1994 06:05:38 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <39v1ji$6ta@news.halcyon.com> I'm trying to do a simple script that will start my SLIP connection, retrieve my mail through PopOver, then close the SLIP connection, so that I can automate it an run it every night. Starting and stopping the SLIP connection is easy in a shell script, but I don't know how to invoke PopOver's Retrieve Mail service except from the user interface. Any suggestions? Austin Dahl
From: schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: 11 Nov 94 11:55:08 Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <schaefer.94Nov1111558@syrtis> References: <kikbfxC00iV5Q7v4ck@andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Chuck, you said: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 10-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by >schaefer@syrtis.geology. >> Well, I am VERY pleased with mine. But you will definitely want >> more than 32 MB of RAM. >Why? >-Chuck In answer, it takes very little (reading the news will usually do it) to start the machine swapping furiously. I am waiting for an external hard disk right now, and don't have much free space on the disk the swapfile is on. I usually reboot 2 or 3 times a day to reduce the swapfile size. Now if I had lots of space, I wouldn't have to do that, but I would still have to wait and watch the screen redraw after changing which window was in front. Don't get me wrong - I love this machine! - but it does need more memory (which I have on order right now). And I am finding a good selection of software to run on it. Some I have had to build myself, with the sources on public ftp sites, and some is gradually appearing tri-fat on those sites so I don't have to build it. -Martha Schaefer schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu
From: bosborne@nature.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Osborne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP! Can I boot off CD? Date: 11 Nov 94 17:53:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <bosborne.784576411@nature.Berkeley.EDU> Summary: Can I boot off CD? Keywords: Help Boot CD To the Group, I seem to have lost the pertinent documents, so I need to ask : Can I boot off the 3.2 CD? If so, How? I can't start up normally, (bad sector), nor from a BootFloppy, so I'm hoping I can startup from the CD, and rebuild the disk. Sorry I'm such a Unix ignoramus... Brian Osborne bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how to manually mount /unmount a 3.5" disk?? Date: 11 Nov 1994 12:54:04 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411111854.AA10824@alleg.EDU> Is there a way to mount and unmount a floppy disk from a console login (where you just type 'console' rather than your username at the loginpanel)? All I wanted to do was put a floppy in, cp some files to it (which I could do through terminal) and pop it out again, but without a Workspace I didn't know how. Can it be done? Tj -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: can I get the new Mail.app from 3.3? Message-ID: <1994Nov11.143843.307@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 11 Nov 94 14:38:43 CST Organization: As little as I can get away with... Can I?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mstrock@eskimo.com (Mike Strock) Subject: Re: Setting up NeXTStep 3.2 for TCP/IP - HOW? Message-ID: <Cz4EIM.M0E@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <Cz2As9.H0r@eskimo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 20:35:04 GMT I want to thank all those who replied to my pleas for help, especially Andrew Abernathy, who gave me easy to use instructions which put me up and running in about 20 minutes. Excellent! Thanks All! Mike Strock mstrock@eskimo.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: Gekko systems In-Reply-To: mjh@math.mit.edu's message of Fri, 11 Nov 94 13:34:06 GMT Message-ID: <BYER.94Nov11133142@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila> <1994Nov11.133406.20495@galois.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 21:31:42 GMT Michael J Hopkins writes: Michael> The video is a little funny sometimes--especially the default font Michael> settings for the menu items and for the file names. For some Michael> reason these "thin" (ie not bold) fonts seem to fool the color Michael> recovery system, and the characters look blurry. If you look Michael> closely it is because some of the pixels next to the characters are Michael> shaded gray. Under HPUX the system uses thicker, larger fonts. Michael> You can, of course make this kind of change in preferences. It is Michael> a minor nuisance, and you don't notice it if you sit back from the Michael> screen a bit, or if you have the system use a bold font face. Hm. I would have thought they would have done a better job in this case. I would have thought the blurring algorithm would've been "If the change in color doesn't last more than one pixel, _and_ the color difference is below a threshold, then blur". That algorithm would've kept smaller characters sharp. Or, maybe they just don't have the threshold set right. Better would have been to expose the blur-no-blur as opcodes in the framebuffer. Then NeXT could've written a driver, so that you'd get DPS's halftones (the hardware one's HP is using aren't particularly great :-) blurred slightly in images, and unblurred text. Michael> I also don't like the keyboard and mouse. It's _awful_. Having to switch between five (at least) different keyboards, I've had to lower my standards. But HP has gone to the Dec school of keyboard design and taken everything to heart. Those funky keys along the left side - especially that shrunken shift key! - really mess things up. The keys next to the A and Z should be at least two keys wide, and the one next to the A should be mappable as Control. The Dec and HP keyboards are the only ones lame enough to violate that. And what's that escape key doing _there_?!? Tho' that's not as bad as F11 :-). -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT expo?? Date: 11 Nov 1994 09:53:50 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <3a0b3e$bm@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <39due7$1jc@ftcnews.scs.ag.gov> <39gmk9$a3m@news.blkbox.com> Steve Sarich III writes: >I understand that there'll be offering a do-it-yourself course in filing >Chapter 11 open to all NEXTSTEP registered developers (who haven't already >filed), along with a resume writing course and a job placement seminar for >both NEXTSTEP developers and any remaining NeXT employees. >Due to the "overwhelming" growth in the NEXTSTEP market this year, along >with the flood of new developers clamoring to sell their new NS products, >the EXPO will be moved to Chevy's, the Mexican restaurant across from >Mosconi Center. The move was described as a "right-sizing". There won't >be an admission charge, but there will be a two drink minimum (four drinks >for the keynote). This is truly the kind of post that makes me want to run out and buy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: HELP! Can I boot off CD? Message-ID: <Cz4r6t.E18@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <bosborne.784576411@nature.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 01:08:47 GMT Brian Osborne (bosborne@nature.Berkeley.EDU) wrote: : I seem to have lost the pertinent documents, so I need to ask : : Can I boot off the 3.2 CD? If so, How? I can't start up normally, : (bad sector), nor from a BootFloppy, so I'm hoping I can startup : from the CD, and rebuild the disk. Sorry I'm such a Unix ignoramus... Without the BootFloppy boot strapper, Brian, you cannot boot from the CD. NeXT sthould be able to supply a replacement. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: [unix question] how to get the path to the current dir Message-ID: <1994Nov10.205411.1128@gamelan.sh.sub.de> Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <9411050157.AA08257@alleg.EDU> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 20:54:11 GMT In article <9411050157.AA08257@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: > I know this is probably better off in one of the Unix newsgroups, but > anyway.... > > I am looking for a way to get the opposite of "basename" (a command > that will take a path and give just the ending.) > > i.e. if I give the command a like like > > /software/NeXT/demos/next-interface/binaries/ > or > /software/NeXT/demos/next-interface/binaries > > it will come back with > > /software/NeXT/demos/next-interface/ While it's not 100% compatible with the standard unix 'dirname', it works in most cases: ----- dirname (hack) ---------------------- #! /bin/sh # # Here comes NeXT's missing dirname # echo $1 | sed -e 's:/[^/]*$::' ------------------------------------------- -- ----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de ----- C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEW YORK TIMES: Next/MicroSoft Close to Deal Date: 8 Nov 1994 00:18:07 GMT Organization: - CyberDyne Systems - Distribution: World Message-ID: <39mg3v$7k1@anduin.subculture> References: <1994Nov2.095103.867@prim.demon.co.uk> > > And there are still some people who say you learn more from Usenet news than > you do from traditional newspapers. Nice to see some hard facts rather than > vague hints. > > Dave Well I learned from Usenet that there is an Article about NEXT/Microsoft in NYTimes (which isn't available everywhere in Europe) -- Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com 8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake, Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake." ----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEW YORK TIMES: Next/MicroSoft Close to Deal Date: 8 Nov 1994 00:18:29 GMT Organization: - CyberDyne Systems - Distribution: World Message-ID: <39mg4l$7k2@anduin.subculture> References: <1994Nov2.095103.867@prim.demon.co.uk> > And there are still some people who say you learn more from Usenet news than > you do from traditional newspapers. Nice to see some hard facts rather than > vague hints. > Dave Well I learned from Usenet that there is an Article about NEXT/Microsoft in NYTimes (which isn't available everywhere in Europe) -- Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com 8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake, Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake." ----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEW YORK TIMES: Next/MicroSoft Close to Deal Date: 8 Nov 1994 00:18:38 GMT Organization: - CyberDyne Systems - Distribution: World Message-ID: <39mg4u$7k3@anduin.subculture> References: <1994Nov2.095103.867@prim.demon.co.uk> Keywords: microsoft > And there are still some people who say you learn more from Usenet news than > you do from traditional newspapers. Nice to see some hard facts rather than > vague hints. > Dave Well I learned from Usenet that there is an Article about NEXT/Microsoft in NYTimes (which isn't available everywhere in Europe) -- Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com 8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake, Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake." ----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEW YORK TIMES: Next/MicroSoft Close to Deal Date: 8 Nov 1994 00:19:03 GMT Organization: - CyberDyne Systems - Distribution: World Message-ID: <39mg5n$7kc@anduin.subculture> References: <1994Nov2.095103.867@prim.demon.co.uk> Keywords: microsoft > And there are still some people who say you learn more from Usenet news than > you do from traditional newspapers. Nice to see some hard facts rather than > vague hints. > Dave Well I learned from Usenet that there is an Article about NEXT/Microsoft in NYTimes (which isn't available everywhere in Europe) -- Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com 8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake, Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake." ----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: 12 Nov 94 16:15:31 Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov12161531@glenan> References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila> <1994Nov11.133406.20495@galois.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Mike Hopkins says >> Now I'll concentrate on the negative side. Let me preface this by >> saying that I really like the machine. I just haven't seen some of >> the following things mentioned on the net yet. >> >> First of all, 32M of RAM seems barely enough. I may have to buy some >> more once Mathematica comes out. HP memory is not outrageously >> expensive, though. >> that's quite true, in order to have a decent system you definitly need 64 mo, as any risc computer binaries are much bigger. Jean-FranÛois --- Jean-Francois Boisvieux Departement de Biomathematiques Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere 75013 Paris France jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr (NeXT mail O.K) tel : (33) 1 45 86 19 98 fax : (33) 1 45 83 87 20
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman) Subject: Re: Problem: control key doesn't work with WM Message-ID: <1994Nov12.103253.3988@netcom.com> Sender: gordie@netcom.com Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works References: <39teoi$cp9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 10:32:53 GMT In article <39teoi$cp9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker) writes: > > > We just traded three NeXT machines for 3 Cannon Object Stations. > So far, almost everything is perfect, except for one or two expected bumps... > > At first I thought the control key stuff was a keyboard problem or something. > But, the problem is that some users can't, say, make links to files, and some > users can... > > Any ideas as to why this might be happening will be much appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > > Cary Are they using the "NeXT USA" keyboard? That maps PC keyboards to be like NeXT keyboards, with command near the space bar, alt to it's left, and control where the caplock key is (above the shift key). If they have their keyboard preference set to "NeXT" rather than "NeXT USA" they'll get the finger twisting PC keys (which are probably how the keys are labeled on Canon's although I haven't looked at one lately). -- >>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes! >>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 13:10:10 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <AilEI2_00iUxI2i5VL@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <jfb.94Nov12161531@glenan> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr > that's quite true, in order to have a decent system you definitly need 64 mo, > as any risc computer binaries are much bigger. Huh? Well, I'll bite: why are binaries for a RISC architecture "much bigger" than binaries for a CISC architecture? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: mschaef@cs.utexas.edu (Michael Alan Schaeffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: 12 Nov 1994 13:15:42 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <3a348u$qhr@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu> References: <AilEI2_00iUxI2i5VL@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <AilEI2_00iUxI2i5VL@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by >jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr >> that's quite true, in order to have a decent system you definitly need 64 mo, >> as any risc computer binaries are much bigger. > >Well, I'll bite: why are binaries for a RISC architecture "much bigger" >than binaries for a CISC architecture? My understanding of this phenomanon (sp?) is that, because the RISC instructions do less than CISC instructions, you need more of them. Hence, the binaries are larger for RISC machines. -Mike
From: michael@mmgraph.com\ (Michael Rutchik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problem: control key doesn't work with WM Date: 12 Nov 1994 20:06:52 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a378s$5vn@nntp.crl.com> References: <39teoi$cp9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> In article <39teoi$cp9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker) writes: > We just traded three NeXT machines for 3 Cannon Object > Stations. So far, almost everything is perfect, except for one > or two expected bumps... > > At first I thought the control key stuff was a keyboard > problem or something. But, the problem is that some users > can't, say, make links to files, and some users can... > > Any ideas as to why this might be happening will be much > appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > > Cary > The object.stations, being intel machines have different keyboard mapping options (in Preferences.app) If you choose NeXTUSA keyboard the key marked "CapsLock" is the Control key, the keys marked "Command" and "Alt" are command keys and the keys marked "Ctrl" are alt keys.
From: steve@talus.talus.com (Steve Sarich III) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT expo?? Date: 12 Nov 1994 19:20:32 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <3a34i0$jjq@news.blkbox.com> References: <3a0b3e$bm@yucca.omnigroup.com> In article <3a0b3e$bm@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: > Steve Sarich III writes: > > >I understand that there'll be offering a do-it-yourself course in filing > >Chapter 11 open to all NEXTSTEP registered developers (who haven't already > >filed), along with a resume writing course and a job placement seminar for > >both NEXTSTEP developers and any remaining NeXT employees. > > >Due to the "overwhelming" growth in the NEXTSTEP market this year, along > >with the flood of new developers clamoring to sell their new NS products, > >the EXPO will be moved to Chevy's, the Mexican restaurant across from > >Mosconi Center. The move was described as a "right-sizing". There won't > >be an admission charge, but there will be a two drink minimum (four drinks > >for the keynote). > > > This is truly the kind of post that makes me want to run out and buy The good news is, you don't need to buy anything, Bill! Just bring along one of the thirty three invitations you'll get to Expo between now and June :-)) See you at Chevy's...I'll buy the first round. Steve
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 17:59:24 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0ilIXAy00iUx84oahD@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3a348u$qhr@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by Michael A. Schaeffer@cs. > >Well, I'll bite: why are binaries for a RISC architecture "much bigger" > >than binaries for a CISC architecture? > > My understanding of this phenomanon (sp?) is that, because the RISC > instructions do less than CISC instructions, you need more of them. However, a RISC machine has many more registers than a CISC, and the compiler has to output more instructions to spill and restore temporary values onto the stack. When you consider that modern compilers normally don't use many of the more complex CISC instructions, the net result is that RISC and CISC binaries are approximately the same size. > Hence, the binaries are larger for RISC machines. Oh, RISC may average 10% or so larger than CISC overall, depending on just what you want to benchmark for executable file sizes, but there just isn't a major difference-- perform your own builds and see for yourself. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: pinstal@vub.ac.be (Installe Patrick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: test Date: 12 Nov 1994 16:43:19 GMT Organization: Brussels Free Universities (VUB/ULB), Belgium Message-ID: <3a2rb7$euv@rc1.vub.ac.be> Just testing ... pinstal
From: yangboy@math (B.Y.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help sought Date: 13 Nov 1994 14:23:02 GMT Organization: ??? Message-ID: <3a57g6$sq1@netnews.ntu.edu.tw> Summary: hard disk problems Keywords: HD, next station I have an old NeXT Station and use a Seagate 1GB drive as the booting drive, even though I left it as device 2 (filesystem sd1a). Recently the drive failed. After I rebooted (this time using the internal drive) and old NeXT Step failed to locate anything on the disk, and fsck burped repeatedly and kicked me out each time, I sent it to the company from which I purchased the drive. It turned out that they only work with M$-DO$ and doesn't know how to handle any other OS. Can someone give me a pointer as to what to do assuming that I can stand to lose the data on the disk? And what if I would like to recover the data? Please use reply-mail since I don't frequent this group. -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Bridge is a Science, they said hopefully." ... of M. Miles & E. Kantar. | | "ACBL is for Ayatollah's Correct Bidding Lessons." ... Edgar Kaplan. | | "System is to Judgment as Strategy is to Tactics." ... Eric Rodwell. | | "Only wimps are afraid to prepare!" ... <after '90 WOPC> Adam Zmudzinski. | | >>>> Professor WHO??, Bridge Enthusiast: yangboy@laplace.math.ntu.edu.tw | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [unix question] how to get the path to the current dir Date: 13 Nov 1994 15:51:43 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411132151.AA11330@alleg.EDU> I've had a lot of people mail me dirname scripts, but I've been unable to get them to work for me for some reason (probably wrong syntax or something silly like that.) The easiest answer I got was from Michelle Bradshaw <bradshaw@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com> who wrote: I stumbled accross this in _The_UNIX_C_Shell_Field_Guide_: Pathname Specifiers for Variables Command Output no specifier echo $cf /u/sam/common/gets.c root echo $cf:r /u/sam/common/gets header echo $cf:h /u/sam/common tail echo $cf:t gets.c extension echo $cf:e c
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz (Oren Golan) Subject: Re: NeXt WWW apps? / Mosaic for NeXT Message-ID: <Cz875B.1nF@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago References: <1994Nov10.180752.1092@news.wesleyan.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 21:46:23 GMT In article <1994Nov10.180752.1092@news.wesleyan.edu> writes: > > Can anyone direct me to a Mosaic-type application for the NeXT, > available by FTP? > The best available product is OmniWeb, available from ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniWeb-0.7.5.3.1.app.tar.gz . You will also need to install OmniImageFilter (available at the same location) and an image viewer (best one I know is available from ftp.cs.orst.edu//software/NeXT/binaries/graphics/ImageViewer-0.9i.tar.Z ). And, of course, to view other MultiMedia stuff (video, sounds etc.) you'll need the appropriate software, all available free from ftp.cs.orst.edu and other ftp sites. Enjoy it, Oren. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oren Golan Ph: (03) 479-8347 Computer Science Dept. Fax: (03) 479-8529 University of Otago e-mail: oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz Dunedin, New-Zealand. "Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Subject: NeXTstation serial port speeds Message-ID: <Cz77p8.1E3@blackmaus.com> Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc. Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 09:00:44 GMT I recently remember a thread going on here about setting the serial port speed of a NeXTstation past the 38,400 baud limit, particularly into the 57,600 baud range. I'd like to get any info from the person who posted that. I have dial-out uucp connection for my mail/news, and would like to be able to set the port (if indeed possible) to its max. I've tried modifying my /etc/uucp/L-devices and /etc/uucp/L.sys files to accomodate a speed of 57,600, but uucico gives me this error: ASSERT ERROR (uucico) pid: 1591 (11/13-03:22) BAD SPEED (-1) when I try to poll at that speed. You can either post to this newsgroup or email me with the info. Thanks in advance, --- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) PGP key available on request. -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design 305.935.6325
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXt WWW apps? / Mosaic for NeXT Date: 14 Nov 1994 02:20:36 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a6hhk$37t@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <Cz875B.1nF@news.otago.ac.nz> In article <Cz875B.1nF@news.otago.ac.nz> oreng@farli.otago.ac.nz (Oren Golan) writes: > The best available product is OmniWeb, available from > ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniWeb-0.7.5.3.1.app.tar.gz . Although I agree with this statement, it is worth noting that ftp://ftp.w3.org//pub/www/bin/next-fat/WWW.app_2.02.tar.Z is also a very nice browser/editor. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: testing news setup Date: 12 Nov 1994 20:09:59 GMT Organization: Filtronix Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a37en$6f@filtronix.eunet.be> Please confirm that this message has left my site and has been spread on the Net... Filip
From: dave@fsdpr.uafac.alaska.edu (/dev/null) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTstep > X11 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 22:12:24 Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks Message-ID: <dave.68.0016358E@fsdpr.uafac.alaska.edu> Is there any way to export the display of NeXTstep to a remote X client? Or, Is there any way to view a NeXTstep display on a PC without running MSWindows and winsock without using an X client? Any input is appreciated. thanks de Dave Riesz fsdpr@aurora.alaska.edu
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT and ZyXel as a voice mail system? Date: 9 Nov 1994 10:20:33 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <39q7ph$17k@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <1994Nov7.164228.17494@news.research.ptt.nl> In article <1994Nov7.164228.17494@news.research.ptt.nl> harts@nex002 (Paul Harts) writes: |>Hi, |> |>Is anyone aware of a NeXT application which makes it possible to use 1 |>line and a ZyXel modem and a NeXT (black) as a voice mail system? I also |>would like to make outbound calls using a head set and my modem. SBook and |>phonetones are not interesting (enough) for me. I am looking for something |>more professional |>TIA, |>paul. |> hi, You should take a look at MIX, from the German company I-link. It will do exactly what you want and a lot more. Very sophisticated, very slick, and very very capable as a voicemail system, telephone ordering system, an answering machine and much much more..... It uses a small black box that attaches to the DSP port, and you get a faxmodem, datamodem, answering machine and a fully programmable voicemail system. Contact your local supplier or get back to me if you need more help.... Best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief DANNUG NEWS & DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: iggjacob@sgi17 (Jacob Nielsen (c898594)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing rtfd pages Date: 10 Nov 1994 13:27:40 GMT Organization: DTU Message-ID: <39t74c$imn@unidhp.uni-c.dk> References: <1994Nov7.121904.26921@investor.pgh.pa.us> Bob Peirce #305 (rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us) wrote: : I have a manual I want to print that is stored in a group of rtfd : directories. I have two problems. 1) I need to estimate how many pages : will print, something like wc for ASCII files. 2) I want to print the : even pages, flip the stack and print the odd pages, like some of the PS : programs out there. : Can you offer any ideas or suggestion? The easy way is to use Edit cutting and pasting the different RTFD files together then Print->Save to file. After this, find some way of splitting the PostScript file up into even/odd pages and print. The really easy way is to use PasteUp (from AFS) to import the RTFD files and then telling PasteUp to print the even/odd pages. Regards, Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen iggjacob@bbar.dtu.dk
From: schulz@biw.cube.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: 14 Nov 94 08:25:14 Organization: BIW Systemhaus Distribution: fj Message-ID: <schulz.94Nov1482514@gecko03> References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sorry, but there is no 3.3 for Gecko! --- Kay Schulz schulz@biw.cube.de Chaos has been found in systems as diverse as the weather, chemical reactions, biological systems, and even computer networks! --- Grady Booch ---
From: dcteelin@uncc.edu (David C Teeling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: No access to Services. Date: 14 Nov 1994 04:47:25 GMT Organization: University of NC at Charlotte Message-ID: <3a6q4t$dns@news.uncc.edu> Problem: 1) When I login as "me" (not root) I don't have access to "Services" using any application. All I get using "Edit" for example is: Edit Services Info File Edit Format Utilities Windows Print Services Hide Quit with the Services selection highlighted. 2) When I make changes to the dock or shelf and then do View->Update Viewers the changes are not accepted when logged in as "me" (updates to the Workspace do work under "root"). System: Intel '486 4DX2-66V NEXTSTEP 3.2 Thanks for any help David Teeling
From: derekc@tss.com (Derek Collison) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: on-borad SCSI chip, which one? Date: 9 Nov 1994 20:07:54 GMT Organization: Teknekron Software Systems, Inc. Distribution: all Message-ID: <39ra6r$399@newsflash.tss.com> Could someone send me info on the NCR? on-board scsi chip and the associative driver? Thanks, -- Derek Collison <---> collison@tss.com Tekenekron Software Systems
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: 11 Nov 1994 20:00:21 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a0igm$1di@rosie.next.com> References: <kikbfxC00iV5Q7v4ck@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <kikbfxC00iV5Q7v4ck@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: ] Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 10-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by ] schaefer@syrtis.geology. ] > Well, I am VERY pleased with mine. But you will definitely want ] > more than 32 MB of RAM. ] ] Why? ] ] -Chuck four words: 24 bit backing store seriously though, if you run it in 8 bit color or 8 bit gray modes, 32MB will probably be fine. (although HP memory requirements are still slightly higher due to larger code segments in apps) Erik
From: Don McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is HSD these days? Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 13:19:44 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.941114131709.20111A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I have a HSD scanner and MetroScan/Copy. I have some questions regardign moving all this from my NeXTcube to my new Intel box. Where can I contact HSD or it's current incarnation? Thanks Don McCollam mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problem: control key doesn't work with WM Date: 14 Nov 1994 00:02:40 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3a6ui0$rem@cobber.cord.edu> References: <39teoi$cp9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> You can use /NextDeveloper/Demos/Keyboard.app to remap and customize users keyboard layout. I have the ordinary PC keyboard but I've modified the keymap so that I now have Bright/Dim and VolumeUP/VolumeDown where they are on the NeXT. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: jbakst@gate.net (Jeff Bakst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CD-ROM driver for 2.1 black Date: 14 Nov 1994 18:38:33 GMT Message-ID: <3a8ar9$1u4q@tequesta.gate.net> Does anyone know of a 2.1 CD-ROM driver for black HW? -- -- Jeff Bakst (jbakst@mediascape.com) |MediaScape The Computer Game Company |V.P. Software software engineer |voice 407-687-0099
From: Barbara Gavin <dcigavin@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Steve Jobs at Database & Client/Server World Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 14:40:35 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <hczW0w7.dcigavin@delphi.com> We would like to invite you to THE DATABASE & CLIENT/SERVER WORLD EXPOSITION for free, December 8-9, 1994 at McCormick Place North in Chicago. Get the facts you need to stay ahead and become an EXPERT in your area. As part of this offer, we would like to extend our special invitation to come hear Steve Jobs, Chairman & CEO of NeXT Computer Inc., Thursday, December 8, 1994, 10:30 a.m. at the exposition. Steve Jobs describes and demonstrates NeXT's Enterprise Objects Framework (tm) - a breakthrough in building database-intensive custom applications. Enterprise Objects Framework (tm) enables customers to construct reusable business objects that combine business logic with automatic persistent storage in industry standard relational databases, such as Oracle and Sybase. If You Can Use Even More Expertise, it's not too late to register for DATABASE & CLIENT/SERVER WORLD and RM25: The 25th Anniversary of the Relational Model, running concurrent to the Exposition. These events feature 11 focused conferences covering the leading technologies, in-depth, to give you all the knowledge you need. For additional conference information you can access the DCI Home Page at http://www.oec.com/DCI/ Please accept our offer to see Steve Jobs and visit the exciting Exposition Floor with over 700 Exhibits! Register today, using the preferred customer code of DWLQM05, in one of four convenient ways: Mail: 204 Andover Street, Andover, MA 01810 Call: 1-800-DCI-EXPO (1-800-324-3976) Fax: (508) 470-0526 Email: DBWORLD@aol.com Subject line:DWLQM05 Please provide your name, title, company, address (including mailstop), telephone and fax numbers, and EMail address when registering.
From: rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil (Bob Kurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Date: 14 Nov 1994 20:49:33 GMT Organization: "CARDEROCKDIV CDNSWC" Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a8igtINNaeo@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Keywords: PostScript Hi I'm looking for folks who have had exposure to the "Tailor" software under NEXTSTEP for editing PostScript files - impressions of its uses and functionality are primarily what I'm trying to get. Thanks for looking this over Bob Kurhajetz USN CD NSWC Code 3411 Bethesda, MD 20084
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Date: 14 Nov 1994 23:41:01 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov14234101@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <3a8igtINNaeo@oasys.dt.navy.mil> To: rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil (Bob Kurhajetz) In-reply-to: rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil's message of 14 Nov 1994 20:49:33 GMT >>>>> "BK" == Bob Kurhajetz <rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> writes: BK>Hi BK>I'm looking for folks who have had exposure to the "Tailor" software under BK>NEXTSTEP for editing PostScript files - BK>impressions of its uses and functionality are primarily what I'm trying to BK>get. BK>Thanks for looking this over BK>Bob Kurhajetz BK>USN CD NSWC BK>Code 3411 BK>Bethesda, MD 20084 I'm be very surprised if you found one unfavourable comment here. -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
From: mtooley@malibu.sfu.ca (Marc Tooley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics Subject: Re: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Date: 14 Nov 1994 22:00:35 GMT Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <3a8mm3$mmq@seymour.sfu.ca> References: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> <wulfraedCyzM68.M14@netcom.com> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics > AmigaDOS 2.1 (if not 2.04) included a version of CrossDOS. >Activating (mounting) the CrossDOS devices will let your floppy drive >access 720K MS-DOS format floppies -- No special tricks needed, they are >just a different capacity drive to the Amiga (with CrossDOS)... I think he may have been referring to the actual conversion of tiff files to iff. I think I may be able to offer some small portion of advice here. I have found only one program in my vast arzsenal of conversion proggies that I have been collecting over the years is up to the job, and, because I refuse to register many programs on the basis of *mumble mumble* even the one I *did* find, wasn't the latest version, and wasn't able to truly handle tiff files. And, it crops the images as a sort of "crippleware" conceptual *flaw*. HamLabPlus_Demo is the program I used. It's a bit slow, but it'll do the conversion for you quite nicely. Heck, perhaps you should try HamLabPlus, the real thing..? It has been able to handle every format of graphics that I've thrown at it, and it's conversions are excellent--much nicer than wasp's, and wasp can't even handle a quarter of the types that HamLabPlus can.. AAnyhow, ttyl, eh? Marc
From: asr@q8petroleum.com.kw (Ahmad Alrasheedan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Canon ObjectStation ?? Date: 14 Nov 1994 21:42:08 GMT Organization: Kuwait Petroleum Corporation Message-ID: <3a8ljg$mjj@news.q8petroleum.com.kw> I would appreciate any info on the Canon ObjectStation. What I really wanna know is can you run SCO or Linux on the hardware ? I know that it has a proprietry video, can that be disabled and have my choice of VGA card ? what about the built in SCSI controller, is it Adaptic compatible ? Finally, is it worth 1500 pound sterling ?
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT and ZyXel as a voice mail system? Date: 14 Nov 1994 23:07:29 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov14230730@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <1994Nov7.164228.17494@news.research.ptt.nl> <39q7ph$17k@machthenext.dannug.dk> To: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) In-reply-to: work@dannug.dk's message of 9 Nov 1994 10:20:33 GMT >>>>> "MH" == Michael Hallin <work@dannug.dk> writes: MH>In article <1994Nov7.164228.17494@news.research.ptt.nl> harts@nex002 (Paul MH>Harts) writes: MH>|>Hi, MH>|> MH>|>Is anyone aware of a NeXT application which makes it possible to use 1 MH>|>line and a ZyXel modem and a NeXT (black) as a voice mail system? I also MH>|>would like to make outbound calls using a head set and my modem. SBook and MH>|>phonetones are not interesting (enough) for me. I am looking for something MH>|>more professional MH>|>TIA, MH>|>paul. MH>|> MH>hi, MH>You should take a look at MIX, from the German company I-link. It will do MH>exactly what you want and a lot more. Very sophisticated, very slick, and very MH>very capable as a voicemail system, telephone ordering system, an answering MH>machine and much much more..... MH>It uses a small black box that attaches to the DSP port, and you get a MH>faxmodem, datamodem, answering machine and a fully programmable voicemail MH>system. MH>Contact your local supplier or get back to me if you need more help.... MH>Best regards MH>Michael MH>-- MH>_____________________________________________ MH>Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark MH>Editor in chief DANNUG NEWS & DANNUG HOT! MH>NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk MH>NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com MH>Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Can somebody please post contact information for MIX. -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Need a SCANNER & software for NS/Intel Message-ID: <thompsonCzAE0s.G0A@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 02:10:03 GMT Anyone who is using a scanner with NS/Intel, please let me know what brand/model, what software you're using with it, approx. how much each of them cost, and any other comments you may have.. Thanks much. I will summarize. Eric thompson@netcom.com
From: joisha@ces.cwru.edu (G.Prashanth Joisha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Barcode readers Date: 15 Nov 1994 00:19:48 GMT Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University Message-ID: <3a8ur4$amb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <1994Nov7.164228.17494@news.research.ptt.nl> <39q7ph$17k@machthenext.dannug.dk> <ROBERT.94Nov14230730@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Hi , Does anyone know of any barcode readers - need to know about the hardware device (For Intel/NeXT machine running NextStep 3.2) and related drivers. Also, does anyone know of Nextstep compatible movie cameras. Regards, G.Prashanth Joisha EMail : joisha@alpha.ces.cwru.edu -- G.PRASHANTH JOISHA, Dept. of Computer Engg. and Science, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland,OHIO 44106
From: jonathan.fortes@loa.com (JONATHAN FORTES) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT on the Macintosh? Message-ID: <89DB3E3.0611000001.uuout@loa.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 16:35:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: Log On America, INc. Is there any sort of NeXT emulator for the Macintosh? Jonathan Fortes <<jonathan.fortes@loa.com>> <<ab244@osfn.rhilinet.gov>>
From: trey@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Date: 14 Nov 1994 19:20:29 -0600 Organization: TYBRIN Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a92ct$66g@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com> References: <3a8igtINNaeo@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <ROBERT.94Nov14234101@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk) wrote: : >>>>> "BK" == Bob Kurhajetz <rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> writes: : BK>Hi : BK>I'm looking for folks who have had exposure to the "Tailor" software under : BK>NEXTSTEP for editing PostScript files - : BK>impressions of its uses and functionality are primarily what I'm trying to : BK>get. : BK>Thanks for looking this over : BK>Bob Kurhajetz : BK>USN CD NSWC : BK>Code 3411 : BK>Bethesda, MD 20084 : I'm be very surprised if you found one unfavourable comment here. Absolutely. If you've done any work with PostScript, you will smile at first, then laugh and shout with joy as the impact of what Tailor will do for you finally hits home. : -- : "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" : (ASCII for text only messages) Trey -- Trey McClendon NeXTMail Accepted TYBRIN Corporation trey@hsv.tybrin.com Fax: 205-837-3472 Huntsville, AL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics From: wulfraed@netcom.com (Dennis Lee Bieber) Subject: Re: # Need to transfer TIFF files from NeXT to Amiga (IFF). HOW??? Message-ID: <wulfraedCzAH62.Kyx@netcom.com> Keywords: NeXT, Amiga, Graphics Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <39pb3p$glg@mustang.alleg.edu> <wulfraedCyzM68.M14@netcom.com> <3a8mm3$mmq@seymour.sfu.ca> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 03:18:02 GMT mtooley@malibu.sfu.ca (Marc Tooley) writes: > I think he may have been referring to the actual conversion of tiff >files to iff. I think I may be able to offer some small portion of I recalled that second step after the fact... <G> -- > ================================================================== < > This | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG < > Space |------------------------------------ < > Under | wulfraed@netcom.com < > Construction | D.Bieber@GEnie.GEIS.com < > ================================================================== <
From: schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Gekko systems Date: 14 Nov 94 12:31:40 Organization: Yale University Distribution: world Message-ID: <schaefer.94Nov14123140@syrtis> References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila> <1994Nov11.133406.20495@galois.mit.edu> <BYER.94Nov11133142@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain >The keys next to the A and Z should be at least two keys wide, and the one >next to the A should be mappable as Control. The Dec and HP keyboards are ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It is - just choose the NeXTUSA keyboard in the Preferences.
From: armes@tds.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Disk benchmark results Date: 15 Nov 1994 04:34:20 GMT Organization: Trident Data Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a9doc$crr@discovery.ectds.com> References: <39sccn$omv@jujube.cs.umd.edu> In article <39sccn$omv@jujube.cs.umd.edu> rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes: > Howdy, > ... <crunch> Wow, I feel pretty cool about my system's performance, then. I ran the same test on my Dell XPS-60 with 32MB Ram and IDE Quantum 540 drive and got: Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...59.008528 seconds Reading the file...50.758157 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 710796 bytes/second for writing the file 826331 bytes/second for reading the file goodness, I guess IDE isn't so bad after all :) Jim
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Disk benchmark results Date: 15 Nov 1994 10:44:31 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aa3ef$3181@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <39sccn$omv@jujube.cs.umd.edu> <3a9doc$crr@discovery.ectds.com> > 710796 bytes/second for writing the file > 826331 bytes/second for reading the file >goodness, I guess IDE isn't so bad after all :) Yes. It's not that bad. I got a DrivePerformance Index of 1.2 with a WD Caviar IDE drive, which is about the same performance. But: A good SCSI disk with a PCI controller beats you by at least factor 2. -- // Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics // // NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart // // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de // // ...have a look at http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html //
From: ryderf@cs.man.ac.uk (Phran Ryder) Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.ole,comp.os.os2.programmer.oop,comp.std.c++,comp.sys.next.misc,man.cs.general Subject: NWOOPS Date: 15 Nov 1994 09:15:37 GMT Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K. Distribution: uk Message-ID: <3a9u7p$e26@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> I have sent this item to the mail groups I believe will be interested. I apologise if you read it more than once. The OOPS (Object Oriented Programming) specialist group of the BCS (British Computer Society) are creating a North West sub-group that will be called NWOOPS. IF you are interested in this sub-group please reply directly to me at ryderf@cs.man.ac.uk. The purpose of the group is yet to be defined and should reflect the interest of those interested (if you follow me). However, we would like to see a mixture of interesting Seminars and informal meetings. Phran Ryder -- Phran (Fran) Ryder, Aquarium, Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, U.K. ryderf@cs.man.ac.uk
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Date: 15 Nov 1994 03:11:26 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a98sv$8vq@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <ROBERT.94Nov14234101@steffi.dircon.co.uk> robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > >>>>> "BK" == Bob Kurhajetz <rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> writes: > > BK> Hi > BK> I'm looking for folks who have had exposure to the "Tailor" > BK> software under NEXTSTEP for editing PostScript files - > > BK> impressions of its uses and functionality are primarily what > BK> I'm trying to get. > > BK>Thanks for looking this over > > > I'm be very surprised if you found one unfavourable comment here. Tailor is very extremely excellent at editting postscript files. It comes close to turning "read-only" postscript output into a MacDraw-like document. There's a lot of things it lets you do, and it's hard for me to pick a starting point. Basically, there is nothing on any platform that lets you work with a postscript document (ie, postscript which is output from any one of a million applications, including applications which output very extremely stupid postscript) the way Tailor lets you. If you have NeXTSTEP, then you can pick up a demo version of Tailor to start to get an idea of what it lets you do. It can handle Postscript that nothing else on our campus (including a wide variety of Postscript printers) can handle. It can read in one postscript file, and rearrange it all to output a different (much better behaved) file. It is a very excellent program. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 15 Nov 1994 04:45:11 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3a9ecn$bks@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <39rlb9$ann@axil.datasrv.co.il> 1@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Moshe Pamensky) writes: > asking about Hebrew support Our local usenet hub isn't quite healthy at the moment, and I didn't see any replies to this. Perhaps support for Arabic and Hebrew will improve in NS-3.3 or NS-4.0? What's the word on that? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: rgc@zagnut.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Disk benchmark results Date: 15 Nov 1994 17:17:32 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aaqfc$r1c@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <39sccn$omv@jujube.cs.umd.edu> <3a9doc$crr@discovery.ectds.com> <3aa3ef$3181@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Markus Wenzel (wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote: : > 710796 bytes/second for writing the file : > 826331 bytes/second for reading the file : >goodness, I guess IDE isn't so bad after all :) : Yes. It's not that bad. I got a DrivePerformance Index of 1.2 with : a WD Caviar IDE drive, which is about the same performance. : But: A good SCSI disk with a PCI controller beats you by at least factor 2. Well, the reading for a good SCSI disk/PCI controller is 3 times faster, but the writing speed (as least for my setup) is somewhat *slower*. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: Printing rtfd pages Message-ID: <CzBt8t.I53@agedwards.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 20:36:28 GMT References: <1994Nov7.121904.26921@investor.pgh.pa.us> Organization: A.G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. In article <1994Nov7.121904.26921@investor.pgh.pa.us>, Bob Peirce #305 <rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us> wrote: >I have a manual I want to print that is stored in a group of rtfd >directories. I have two problems. 1) I need to estimate how many pages >will print, something like wc for ASCII files. 2) I want to print the >even pages, flip the stack and print the odd pages, like some of the PS >programs out there. > >Can you offer any ideas or suggestion? Why not "print" them all to files, combine the files, and then select the even or odd pages depending on your needs? The psutils utilities will certainly prove themselves invaluable in this case, and can be found in an archie database near you. Good luck! -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Message-ID: <CzBu2w.2nv@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <3a8igtINNaeo@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 20:54:26 GMT Bob Kurhajetz (rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil) wrote: : I'm looking for folks who have had exposure to the "Tailor" software under : NEXTSTEP for editing PostScript files - : impressions of its uses and functionality are primarily what I'm trying to : get. The demonstration package is excellent. I urge you to check it out, expecially if you are a beginner to postscript editing. From this beginners perspective, I find Tailor not to be intuitive enough for design work. The ability to modify group components goes beyond anything I have seen in other packages. Perhaps when I get more experience with .tiff editors, I'll take another look. . . . -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Were there any expansion boards for the NeXT Cube?? Date: 15 Nov 1994 17:49:44 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <3aasbo$mk1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Other than the additional 68030 motherboards I can add to my 68040 NeXT Cube, what other expansion boards are/were available for the NeXT Cube that might be of interest?? Thanks, P.S. Please email me this information... followups to this newsgroup might be overlooked. -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- Internet Network Police Organization -- We're here to protect you -- against yourselves!! ;) #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT on the Macintosh? Date: 15 Nov 1994 17:53:49 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aasjd$mk1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <89DB3E3.0611000001.uuout@loa.com> JONATHAN FORTES (jonathan.fortes@loa.com) wrote: : Is there any sort of NeXT emulator for the Macintosh? : Jonathan Fortes : <<jonathan.fortes@loa.com>> : <<ab244@osfn.rhilinet.gov>> Sorry... Never heard of one... :) -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- Internet Network Police Organization -- We're here to protect you -- against yourselves!! ;) #include <std_disclaimer.h>
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 13:11:42 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <EimDbSS00WBKQ3U8kv@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3a98sv$8vq@usenet.rpi.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 15-Nov-94 Re: seeking opinions on "Ta.. by Garance A. Drosehn@eclip > [ ...good summary of Tailor's PostScript handling capabilities... ] > > It is a very excellent program. Yes, it definitely is. If you are having problems with PostScript documents, Tailor is very likely to be the solution. IMHO, FirstClass is one of the more aptly named software companies. #import <std/disclaimer.h> #import <bias.h> They use CrashCatcher to improve program stability and to achieve much more useful and informative error reporting. I wonder if there could be a relationship? Hmm.... ;-) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unknown System and Workspace dwrites Date: 15 Nov 1994 12:26:06 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411151826.AA08555@alleg.EDU> Does anyone know what the following dwrites do? System BrowserSpeed 400 System ButtonDelay 0.4 System NXCaseSensitiveBrowser "" Workspace CacheLaundryInterval "" Workspace CoreLimit "" Workspace GCCompactInterval "" Workspace GCMinInterval "" Workspace GCThreshold "" Workspace IgnoreSignals "" Workspace NXAllWindowsOneShot "" Workspace NXAllWindowsRetained "" Workspace NXOpen "" Workspace NXOpenTemp "" Workspace NXShowAllWindows "" Workspace ShellPath "" Workspace ShowNeighbors "" Workspace TimeLaunch "" Will post anything I discover. Some of these may be older (2.x) and therefore not mean anything now (3.x) Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: wallace@acasun.eckerd.edu (Bryan Wallace) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Free Book Offer Date: 12 Nov 1994 11:24:44 -0500 Organization: Eckerd College, St. Petersburg, Florida Message-ID: <3a2q8c$icg@acasun.eckerd.edu> In an effort to communicate interesting arguments, I will send a 311KB ASCII email copy of my current book to anyone who sends a request to my below email address. This book is my independent work and not the opinions of the physics department. Of the many interesting comments on the book that I've received to date, John Archibald Wheeler of Princeton University wrote: "A dynamic ether, a compressible fluid that could move at the speed of light." I am delighted you take such a deep interest in a subject so important. Kurt Pagels of Germany wrote: The reading of this book was for me very interesting and very informative! The factual material and the wealth of ideas is in your book in such a manner great, that a second and third reading is needed, therewith all arguments come to consciousness. But the comment I liked the best came from Rudolf Nedved of Czechoslovakia, who wrote: I have studied up the preprint of your book "The Farce of Physics" and an very surprised. For me, it was better than a thrilling crime novel. Steven L. Mitchell, the Editorial Director of Prometheus Books wrote: Thank you for sharing with us your manuscript titled "The Farce of Physics." The idea of publishing an internal critique of the scientific mindset is most intriguing. Naturally, it would run counter to many prevailing opinions and this could negatively effect the market. Since the audience for your book would be the dedicated reader of science, the risks facing publication are considerable. Mitchell wanted a substantial grant to assist publication and share the risks, and I have found no other publisher willing to give me better terms, so I have decided to distribute the book free on the Internet. If one prefers to obtain a copy by anonymous ftp, they can get it from ftp.germany.eu.net in the directory /pub/books/wallace, by using get farce.txt. Bryan G. Wallace wallace@eckerd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dcdownie@bart.uwaterloo.ca (David Downie) Subject: NS/SPARC Message-ID: <CzBABx.36@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 13:47:56 GMT Any word on when NS/SPARC is due to be released? Is it even out in beta yet? --- ====================================================== David Downie School of Accountancy dcdownie@bart.uwaterloo.ca University of Waterloo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor In-Reply-To: Charles William Swiger's message of Tue, 15 Nov 1994 13:11:42 -0500 Message-ID: <BYER.94Nov15143545@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA References: <EimDbSS00WBKQ3U8kv@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 22:35:45 GMT Tailor handled some of the wierdest handcoded PostScript I had hanging around. Including a maze generator, a fractal leaf generator, and some other junk I wrote when I first got to Adobe. Amazing. -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. === ===
From: evensen@fas.harvard.edu (Erik Evensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP! Can I boot off CD? Date: 15 Nov 1994 21:27:46 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <EVENSEN.94Nov15162747@fas.harvard.edu> References: <bosborne.784576411@nature.Berkeley.EDU> <Cz4r6t.E18@eskimo.com> In-reply-to: salvo@eskimo.com's message of Sat, 12 Nov 1994 01:08:47 GMT >>>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 1994 01:08:47 GMT, salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) said: mjs> Brian Osborne (bosborne@nature.Berkeley.EDU) wrote: mjs> : I seem to have lost the pertinent documents, so I need to ask : mjs> : Can I boot off the 3.2 CD? If so, How? I can't start up normally, mjs> : (bad sector), nor from a BootFloppy, so I'm hoping I can startup mjs> : from the CD, and rebuild the disk. Sorry I'm such a Unix ignoramus... mjs> Without the BootFloppy boot strapper, Brian, you cannot boot from the mjs> CD. NeXT sthould be able to supply a replacement. I grabbed this from one of the NeXT newgroups not too long ago - might be worth a try? I hope the author doesn't mind my reposting it. I haven't tried it myself. --begin included message-- Newsgroups:comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM Message-ID: <39gkt3$2uh@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Date: 5 Nov 1994 19:02:59 GMT References: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu Lines: 32 Xref: hulaw1 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:19294 comp.sys.next.misc:40024 comp.sys.next.hardware:15372 I solved this problem in a way that might interest others who have early cubes with the early ROM versions which do not (seem to) allow booting directly from the CDROM. First the problem was that I could not do "b sd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1" because these early machines do not probe for the CD-ROM prior to the boot sequence, so I got "no SCSI disk" in response. I could not boot from the optical disk, even though I installed the /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom file on it using disk -B (adapting the instructions for doing the same on a floppy disk). I do not know why this did not work. What I was able to do was skip the boot from the special boot block altogether by using a boot trick: I did "bsd -a". That does two things: 1) The -a tells it to prompt for the root device. 2) The fact that I gave it no arguments made it go out and probe for all scsi devices, which meant it found the CD-ROM. This is the obscure detail. When it fails on sd0, I gave it sd(1,0,0)sdmach as the boot block. It then booted from the CD-ROM, and asked me for the root device, at which point I gave it sd1. Away we went. So the summary is: you can install from scratch onto a hard disk from CD-ROM without need of an additional floppy or optical boot block by doing what I described above. Hope it helps somebody else! -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/ --end included message-- -- _____________________________________________________________________________ | Erik Evensen | "Our company is too small to | | erik@tammy.harvard.edu | have a crash test dummy. | | evensen@fas.harvard.edu | So I usually just use myself." | | pager # 617 764 8676 | - Tom Ritchey | |_____________________________________|_______________________________________|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ringger@cs.rochester.edu Subject: Fun with NRW Message-ID: <199411160200.VAA19018@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger) Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 21:00:05 -0500 Hi. (I haven't seen this from anyone else, so I'm posting.) I was upgrading from the 940213 version of Xox (Sam Streeper's sprite game engine) to the 940728 version and checked the diffs between source files (using FileMerge.app of course). Lo and Behold, I found an interesting goody in the 940213 sources: a file called SGS_ENV. The time-stamp on the file reads July 6, 1993. Below are the contents. Let's have fun with this one. --Eric ---------------- # # NRW Cross compilation environment until all the makefiles get fixed. # make=/bin/make -/RC_ARCHS/ $ "RC_CFLAGS=-arch m98k" RC_ARCHS=m98k MACHINE=m98k cc=/bin/cc ^ -I/Net/agnosis/mk/osdev/MKNRW/mknrw ^ -I/Net/agnosis/mk/osdev/ARCHITECTURE -/-DLOCALARCHITECTURE/ ^ -B/usr/local/cross_bin/ # +/-arch m88k/ $ -fno-delayed-branch # +/-arch m88k/ s -O2=-O # +/-arch m88k/ ^ -DBRINGUP # +/-arch m88k/ $ -fno-omit-frame-pointer +/-o sh.proc.o/ s -O2= ld=/Net/georgia/heard/enderby/m98k/ld-15.1 +/-arch m98k/ ^ -L/Net/gatekeeper/nrw/dclegg/m98k +/-arch m98k/ s /lib/crt0.o=-lcrt0.o +/-arch m98k/ s /lib/mcrt0.o=-lmcrt0.o +/-arch m98k/ s /lib/gcrt0.o=-lgcrt0.o +/-arch m98k/ s /lib/pscrt0.o=-lpscrt0.o +/-object/ ^ -seg1addr 0x13a00000 +/-lcs/ ^ -L/Net/newton/sci/jdoenias/m98k/libcs +/-lsys_s/ ^ -segaddr __TEXT 0x13a00000 +/-lNeXT_s/ ^ -L/Net/newton/sci/jdoenias/m98k/libnext_sym/m98k_sym s -lMedia_s=
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT and ZyXel as a voice mail system? Date: 15 Nov 1994 22:34:57 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <3abd2h$3dn@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <ROBERT.94Nov14230730@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Hi, Somebody wanted to get some more info on MIX. The company that produces the product is called i-link, but the product is distributed through: Alembic Systems International 14 Inverness Dr. E. Ste. G-228 Englewood CO 80112 303/799-6223 alembic@alembic.com Dont know is the above info is still the right one, but maybe somebody else can confirm this??? Best Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief of DANNUG NEWS & DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: asr@q8petroleum.com.kw (Ahmad Alrasheedan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Canon ObjectStation ?? Date: 16 Nov 1994 06:26:04 GMT Organization: Kuwait Petroleum Corporation Message-ID: <3ac8ls$cf1@news.q8petroleum.com.kw> References: <3a8ljg$mjj@news.q8petroleum.com.kw> Ahmad Alrasheedan (asr@q8petroleum.com.kw) wrote: : I would appreciate any info on the Canon ObjectStation. : What I really wanna know is can you run SCO or Linux on the hardware ? I know : that it has a proprietry video, can that be disabled and have my choice of : VGA card ? what about the built in SCSI controller, is it Adaptic : compatible ? : Finally, is it worth 1500 pound sterling ? I got 3 replies by mail. 1 was stating facts and prices, the other 2 were strongly against investing in the ObjectStation !! If you feel that you are happy with the ObjectStation please take the time by dropping me a line. Thanx
From: pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu (Paul Cardon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fun with NRW Date: 16 Nov 1994 07:17:17 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <3acblt$ah9@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <199411160200.VAA19018@slate.cs.rochester.edu> In article <199411160200.VAA19018@slate.cs.rochester.edu> ringger@cs.rochester.edu writes: [Xox source that ran on the NRW deleted] Yes, Xox did actually run on the NRW at NeXT once upon a time. I even think that was mentioned in these newsgroups a while ago. -- Paul M. Cardon
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From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MAILING LIST: Enterprise Objects Framework mailing List Date: 16 Nov 1994 01:11:31 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <3acic3$nkl@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <39ch0t$ein@digifix.digifix.com> <Cywwn8.82o@txnews.amd.com> <39p48v$hdj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> charles.herrick@amd.com writes: >In article <39ch0t$ein@digifix.digifix.com> William Shipley <wjs@omnigroup.com> >writes: >> Omnigroup has created a new mailing list for discussion of features, >> bugs, programming, etc... concerning the NeXT Enterprise Objects >> Framework >> To Subscribe.. >> send email to >> listproc@omnigroup.com >You know, it would really be nice if people would either forgo braindead >LISTSERV email auto-subscribers and answer the mail by hand or >get a decent auto-subscriber. >Just what are the how-to-subscribe details for this bugger anyway? I actually sent the details to Scott when I sent my original submission, but they got lost in the translation. You send e-mail to listproc@omnigroup.com, with no subject, and the body line: subscribe eof MyFirstName MyLastName That's it. It figures out your e-mail address automatically. And, if you don't like listserv, why don't you start your own list? I have no intention of moderating a list by hand. We have over a hundred lists here at Omni, and there's simply no way we could manage this without automation. -Wil
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MAILING LIST: Enterprise Objects Framework mailing List Date: 15 Nov 1994 21:00:17 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ab7h1$ic8@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <39p48v$hdj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> > charles.herrick@amd.com writes: > >William Shipley <wjs@omnigroup.com> writes: > >> Omnigroup has created a new mailing list for discussion of > >> features, bugs, programming, etc... concerning the NeXT > >> Enterprise Objects Framework > >> To Subscribe.. > >> send email to > >> listproc@omnigroup.com > > > You know, it would really be nice if people would either forgo > > braindead LISTSERV email auto-subscribers and answer the mail > > by hand or get a decent auto-subscriber. > > > Just what are the how-to-subscribe details for this bugger anyway? Send a message where the body of the message has two lines, with one word per line: HELP LISTS that should get you going. This one seems to use the body of the message itself, and not the subject of the message. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: david@colossus.pfm-mainz.de (David Andel) Subject: Re: What is HSD these days? Organization: WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 17:09:29 GMT Message-ID: <3adec9$h9@colossus.PFM-Mainz.DE> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.941114131709.20111A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Sender: news@pfm.PFM-Mainz.DE (news of pfm) In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.941114131709.20111A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Don McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> writes: > Hi. I have a HSD scanner and MetroScan/Copy. I have some questions > regardign moving all this from my NeXTcube to my new Intel box. Where > can I contact HSD or it's current incarnation? > David Peter fom HSD wrote me some months ago that Metrosoft is the new publishing partner from HSD handling distribution of all HSD products. You can contact them by sending email to Mary Donnelly (mary@metrosoft.com). -- David Andel (WiNG) @aBlackNeXT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: david@colossus.pfm-mainz.de (David Andel) Subject: Re: NeXT and ZyXel as a voice mail system? Organization: WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 17:12:25 GMT Message-ID: <3adehp$hb@colossus.PFM-Mainz.DE> References: <ROBERT.94Nov14230730@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Sender: news@pfm.PFM-Mainz.DE (news of pfm) In article <ROBERT.94Nov14230730@steffi.dircon.co.uk> robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > > Can somebody please post contact information for MIX. > No problem... =========================cut here========================= In Europe: i link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH Nollendorfstra e 11-12 10777 Berlin EMail: info@ilink.de Phone: +49-30-2162048 Fax: +49-30-2158274 In the U.S. Alembic Systems International Ltd. 14 Inverness Dr. East G-228 Englewood CO 80112 (303).799.6223 (303).799.1709 fax 800 452.7608 e-mail:info@alembic.com I also saw Daniel J. Gamble posting informations about mix... OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012 Denver, CO 80203 Toll Free: 1-800-TRY-OPEN Phone: +303.861.4411 Fax: +303.861.2393 E-mail: info@opensource.com =========================cut here========================= I can recommend mix absolutely but I wouldn't order the modem software option because it's simply too slow (2400 bps). The Fax software and the voice-mail system are great (four cubes rating in NeXTWORLD). Unfortunately it lacks still voice recognition and Caller-ID. -- David Andel (WiNG) @aBlackNeXT
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 16 Nov 1994 11:16:30 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3adb8u$7d1@anshar.shadow.net> References: <39rlb9$ann@axil.datasrv.co.il> <3a9ecn$bks@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A. Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote: : 1@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Moshe Pamensky) writes: : > asking about Hebrew support : Our local usenet hub isn't quite healthy at the moment, and : I didn't see any replies to this. Perhaps support for : Arabic and Hebrew will improve in NS-3.3 or NS-4.0? What's : the word on that? So far, I haven't seen or heard of any Hebrew support. I'd love to see some Hebrew-capable apps (OpenWrite perhaps). NeXT seems to be focusing on its existing markets (German, Spanish, French, Italian, etc.), while completely ignoring large potential markets. - Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: martin@p45.isltd.insignia.com (Martin Hopkins) Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor In-Reply-To: salvo@eskimo.com's message of Tue, 15 Nov 1994 20:54:26 GMT Message-ID: <MARTIN.94Nov16165159@p45.isltd.insignia.com> Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com (Usenet News) Organization: Insignia Solutions Ltd References: <3a8igtINNaeo@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <CzBu2w.2nv@eskimo.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 16:51:59 GMT In article <CzBu2w.2nv@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: The demonstration package is excellent. I urge you to check it out, Where can I get a copy. --- Martin Hopkins martin@insignia.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jcassidy@quark.uwaterloo.ca (James Cassidy) Subject: Re: Disk benchmark results Message-ID: <CzD3J9.DwC@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 13:16:20 GMT Here's the results from my machine having run iozone 40: 486/100 with 512K cache AHA-2842 VLB SCSI adaptor 32Mb ram Quantum Empire 1G drive Diamond Stealth 64 VLB graphics adaptor writing: 24.89sec 1.68Mb/sec reading: 23.92sec 1.75Mb/sec Jim.
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Disk benchmark results Date: 16 Nov 1994 21:02:57 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <3ads21$jj5@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <CzD3J9.DwC@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> James Cassidy (jcassidy@quark.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : Here's the results from my machine having run iozone 40: : 486/100 with 512K cache : AHA-2842 VLB SCSI adaptor : 32Mb ram : Quantum Empire 1G drive : Diamond Stealth 64 VLB graphics adaptor : writing: 24.89sec 1.68Mb/sec That write speed is one MB/s faster than mine, and the Micropolis 4110 is a fast drive. Is the Adaptec 2842 that much faster than the Buslogic 445C? : reading: 23.92sec 1.75Mb/sec This is about the same. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Need macro lIke capability for word processing Message-ID: <1994Nov16.190729.2506@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 19:07:29 GMT Basically, I need the ability to store strings of text that can be entered during transcription. This could be a multiple pasteboard type of deal. But, the real need would be to be able to attach a key sequence to each string of characters. Any advice? Thanks WEs -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group | 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: 1@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Moshe Pamensky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 16 Nov 1994 22:42:26 GMT Organization: Jerusalem1 at DataServe LTD. Information services Message-ID: <3ae1si$fds@israel-info.datasrv.co.il>
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Function Keys revisited Date: 17 Nov 1994 04:56:26 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aenpq$p08@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> I know its been asked before, but couldn't find it is my old postings list (or NA). Is there a way to map function keys to actions (or at least text strings)? - Steve -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University | "There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a boot jack and pulling on its tail. However, none are as much fun!"
From: patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu (Pathikrit Bandyopadhyay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: posix library Date: 16 Nov 1994 23:27:10 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ae4ge$i90@news.nd.edu> hi, these days any software i download, needs posix libraries to compile. where can i find these libraries ????????? for sun (running sunos5.0) and next (running 2.1). please email to me if you can. thanks in advance. pathikrit.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: No access to Services. Message-ID: <CzEK4G.1CF@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <3a6q4t$dns@news.uncc.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 08:12:16 GMT In article <3a6q4t$dns@news.uncc.edu> dcteelin@uncc.edu (David C Teeling) writes: > Problem: > 1) When I login as "me" (not root) I don't have access to "Services" using > any application. All I get using "Edit" for example is: Check ownership and permissions for the .NeXT directory in your home dir. -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) "Well, it was micro, and it was soft..." Mrs. Gates after the wedding night
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Message-ID: <CzEKL7.1Dn@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <3a8igtINNaeo@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 08:22:18 GMT BTW, I haven't found out how to convert text to a path in order to edit the shape of the font characters. Does anyone here know how to do this? -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) "Well, it was micro, and it was soft..." Mrs. Gates after the wedding night
From: box5888@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (CCC Help Desk, box5888) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Help: Looking for a 68K Assembly book ... Date: 17 Nov 1994 01:36:09 GMT Organization: CCC Help Desk, box 5888 Message-ID: <3aec29$62h@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Summary: Assembly, 68k, Motorola Hi all, I am looking for a book that went out of publication. It is the 68000 Assembly book published by Sams publishing. I don't have the ISBN. I tried Sams ... but they couldn't help me. If anyone has a copy they want to sell me, please get in contact with me through voice mail. (If you have another assembly book for the 68K, please let me know also). Thanks, Joel Belog (508) 791-4840 -- Box 5888, CCC Help Desk, Fuller Labs - B21, 831-5888, 8am to 5pm. sig truncated due to cutbacks.....
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SLIP help Date: 17 Nov 1994 01:01:36 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <3aea1g$3ba@mark.ucdavis.edu> I am trying to set up a SLIP connexction--does anyone have any info--public domain software sites or anything at all? thanks pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Date: 17 Nov 1994 01:25:59 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aebf7$gek@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <BYER.94Nov15143545@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> In article <BYER.94Nov15143545@birch.mv.us.adobe.com> byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes: > >Tailor handled some of the wierdest handcoded PostScript I had hanging >around. Including a maze generator, a fractal leaf generator, and some >other junk I wrote when I first got to Adobe. > >Amazing. I agree. I also fed Tailor a fair number of hand coded PS, and it took all. One note. Once you edit a PS file with Tailor, you practically cannot go back and edit it by hand. E.g., parameters that were def'ed for programmatically generated patterns like fractals and maze are completely unrolled. Parameters of the drawing for such things are basically frozen. Another example: If you def a color of a lot of similar object at the top once, you can change the color of all these object by hand editing of one line that defs the color. You can't do this to a file once it is through Tailor because the def is completely unrolled. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Barcode readers Date: 17 Nov 1994 15:39:51 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3aftg7$51k@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3a8ur4$amb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> In article <3a8ur4$amb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> joisha@ces.cwru.edu (G.Prashanth Joisha) writes: > Hi , > > Does anyone know of any barcode readers - need to know about the hardware > device (For Intel/NeXT machine running NextStep 3.2) and related drivers. Also, does anyone know of Nextstep compatible movie cameras. > Regards, > G.Prashanth Joisha > > EMail : joisha@alpha.ces.cwru.edu > -- > G.PRASHANTH JOISHA, > Dept. of Computer Engg. and Science, > Case Western Reserve University, > Cleveland,OHIO 44106 Hot Technologies has developed a complete line of barcode writers, readers, hardware and utilities for NEXTSTEP. Movie Machine Pro by interpersonal-computing offers options which include live video hard disk recording, editing, and special effect generation. Let me know if you'd like more information about these products. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 2 boards in one cube? Message-ID: <1994Nov17.083516.5536@roper.uwyo.edu> From: ezimmerm@UWYO.EDU Date: 17 Nov 94 08:35:15 MST Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie Salutations! I want to run two '030 boards in one cube and use their combined power to enhance my system's performance. I know this can be done with NS3.2, which I have. Well, I know that networked _seperate_ stations can have distributed systems capabilities (in some cases) and something like load balancing. But, can (_has_) this been done by anyone out there? I'd like some help, or a pointer to some help. Here's what I plan on doing: Using my current board with 16 megs and an optical and 380 HD as my display board, that is I will connect the monitor and printer to this one. I will install my extra board with 8 megs of ram and ethernet them together. My problem is how to get the other machine to boot when nothing is connected to it? Can I send some kind of network command? Does the second board need it's own hard drive? Can it boot off the network drive? (ie the one on my main, 16 meg board?) Thanks, Gene ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is there a way to (temporarily) disable mouse? Date: 17 Nov 1994 13:22:35 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411171922.AA23715@alleg.EDU> Pretty much says it all. I would like to be able to disable the mouse at some point and re-enable it later (because I'm really strange, that's why :-) Is there an easy way (other than using a knife first and then a soldering it later?) to do this? thanks tjl -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Function Keys revisited Date: 17 Nov 1994 19:14:38 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aga2u$t9@rosie.next.com> References: <3aenpq$p08@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> In article <3aenpq$p08@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) writes: ] ] I know its been asked before, but couldn't find it is my old postings list ] (or NA). Is there a way to map function keys to actions (or at least text ] strings)? Yes... but only in NEXTSTEP 3.3. Keyboard.app supports creating keymaps with key sequences in them. Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NeXTstep > X11 Message-ID: <CzE89s.on@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard) References: <dave.68.0016358E@fsdpr.uafac.alaska.edu> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 03:56:15 GMT In article <dave.68.0016358E@fsdpr.uafac.alaska.edu> dave@fsdpr.uafac.alaska.edu (/dev/null) writes: # #Is there any way to export the display of NeXTstep to a remote X client? #Or, #Is there any way to view a NeXTstep display on a PC without running MSWindows #and winsock without using an X client? # #Any input is appreciated. No to both. NeXTstep is not X11 so you can't do it. You can do it on another machine running NS. Kent -- /* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */ /* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */ /* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L. Shephard Consulting */
From: driss@info.polymtl.ca (Aniss Driss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Canadian manufacturers needed Date: 17 Nov 1994 19:05:52 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal Message-ID: <3ag9ig$6si@charles.cdec.polymtl.ca> m Tunisia: We are looking for canadian or american made electrical, electronics or computer products. We have a lot of tunisian clients that are interested in those products. Could you please send us by fax ou by mail, to the address below, the list of your products with their description and, if possible their prices. ----------------------------------------------------------- Nous sommes a la recherche de fabricants canadiens ou americains de produits electriques, electroniques ou informatiques. Nous avons des clients tunisiens qui sont tres interesses par ces produits. Je vous prie de bien vouloir nous faire parvenir par fax ou par courrier, a l'adresse ci-dessous, une liste de vos produits et leurs descriptions et si possible leurs prix. =============================================== | Tahar Machhout | | | | Tunisian Products Export International | | Complexe Commercial Al-Riyadh | | 2, Avenue de Paris | | 2033 Megrine | | TUNISIE | | | | | | Tel: (216-1) 296-201 / 296-204 | | Fax.: (216-1) 434-904 | | Telex: 14623 | | | ===============================================
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 18 Nov 1994 00:05:35 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Distribution: world Message-ID: <3agr4f$e72@network.ucsd.edu> References: <3adb8u$7d1@anshar.shadow.net> Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: : Garance A. Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote: : : 1@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Moshe Pamensky) writes: : : > asking about Hebrew support : : Our local usenet hub isn't quite healthy at the moment, and : : I didn't see any replies to this. Perhaps support for : : Arabic and Hebrew will improve in NS-3.3 or NS-4.0? What's : : the word on that? : So far, I haven't seen or heard of any Hebrew support. I'd love : to see some Hebrew-capable apps (OpenWrite perhaps). NeXT seems to be : focusing on its existing markets (German, Spanish, French, Italian, : etc.), while completely ignoring large potential markets. Although Israel is certainly important in world affairs, one ought to keep in mind that its population is less than that of the Los Angeles metropolitan area, and its wealth smaller still, in addition to the reasonably high level of English literacy amongst the "intellectual elite" likely to use expensive computers. : - Jay _Large_ potential markets include India (again, english is sufficient), China and Russia, but there is essentially no control over rampant software piracy, especially in the last two. -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
From: gcasa@Glue.umd.edu (Gregory J. Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTstep > X11 Date: 17 Nov 1994 21:39:43 GMT Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <3agiiv$hbh@mojo.eng.umd.edu> References: <dave.68.0016358E@fsdpr.uafac.alaska.edu> /dev/null (dave@fsdpr.uafac.alaska.edu) wrote: : Is there any way to export the display of NeXTstep to a remote X client? : Or, Is there any way to view a NeXTstep display on a PC without running : MSWindows and winsock without using an X client? NeXTSTEP uses Display Postscript to generate its display. It is not an X Window System based interface. I have heard, on occasion, about people doing this between two machines running NS, but never between a machine running NS and a machine running X. : Any input is appreciated. Thanks, : thanks de Dave Riesz : fsdpr@aurora.alaska.edu Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mounting a CD with multiple filesystems on it (Mac and DOS), on black Date: 18 Nov 1994 00:05:36 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <3agr4g$q44@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Hello, I recently got a CD-ROM that has fonts on it in DOS and MAC format. When the Cd is inserted in either machine they flawlessly come up on the machine. On my Black cube with origional NeXT CD-ROM it always mounts as cfs (CD-ROM). I tried various mount -t macintosh /dev/?? /mountpoint commands to no avail. First anyone have any clue as to how to find out what partition things are at on disks? When mounted by automounter it gives the device as rsd3h ("h"!). The 'disk' utility can't find a label. If anyone has any clues I'd greatly appreciate a response. Sincerely, Randy Rencsok rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
From: wright@LAA.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 18 Nov 1994 00:06:09 GMT Organization: Lynn-Arthur Associates, Ann Arbor, MI Message-ID: <3agr5h$ng8$1@heifetz.msen.com> References: <3ae1si$fds@israel-info.datasrv.co.il> In article <3ae1si$fds@israel-info.datasrv.co.il>, 1@zeus.datasrv.co.il (Moshe Pamensky) writes: > NextStep 3.3 is providing support for the 16 bit character system devise to handle all characters sets in the world, including Hebrew and Arabic. I forget the systems name. Might this help you with your needs in Israel? Carl A. Wright Lynn-Arthur Associates, Inc. +1 313 995 5590 wright@laa.com Operations Support Systems +1 313 995 5989 (fax) 2350 Green Road Suite 160 Ann Arbor, MI, 48105 USA
From: zrudedog@aol.com (Rich Neiswonger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dual Ethernet Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:18:30 -0600 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Message-ID: <zrudedog-1711941818300001@rudedog.slip.crl.com> Is there any availability of multiple network interfaces for Nextstep? Specifically I am look to add a second Ethernet to an Intel machine. --rich neiswonger
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Date: 18 Nov 1994 05:17:13 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ahdcp$2aa@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <MARTIN.94Nov16165159@p45.isltd.insignia.com> martin@p45.isltd.insignia.com (Martin Hopkins) writes: > salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: > > The demonstration package is excellent. I urge you to check it out, > > Where can I get a copy. At ftp.cs.orst.edu, try directory pub/next/demos/graphics and look for files starting with "Tailor" -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: batchele@cae.wisc.edu (Batchelet John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: C++ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:50:01 GMT Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering Message-ID: <3agq79$st5@news.doit.wisc.edu> jhfga SOrry for the giberish. Does next suport C++ or just ansi c or both? Also is ther some next bible with hardware suggestions for intil intel maci machines?? :
From: wright@LAA.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hebrew support! Date: 18 Nov 1994 00:46:48 GMT Organization: Lynn-Arthur Associates, Ann Arbor, MI Message-ID: <3agtho$ng8$2@heifetz.msen.com> I remember now what the character set is called. It is Unicode. It should permit easier support for Hebrew. I don't think that this means Next is doing alot of work to support Hebrew. It will just be easier for you or me or them to do. Carl A. Wright Lynn-Arthur Associates, Inc. +1 313 995 5590 wright@laa.com Operations Support Systems +1 313 995 5989 (fax) 2350 Green Road Suite 160 Ann Arbor, MI, 48105 USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (Armin Retzko) Subject: Command line Vector-EPS to Bitmap conversion Message-ID: <armin.785169092@master> Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service) Organization: RRZN Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 14:31:32 GMT Hi everybody, I need to know how to convert vector EPS or PS files to BITMAP (eg. TIFF) files by command line. It should be easy on a NeXT (I think), but i don't know how to do it. There are a lot command line converters (eg. pbmplus package) out there, but i haven't found anything that does vector EPS to bitmap conversions. Please e-mail the answers (if there are any). Thanx. -------------------------------------------------------------- Armin Retzko Schumannstr.5 30823 Garbsen Germany e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (NeXTmail OK) -------------------------------------------------------------- -- Armin Retzko e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scm4jad@thor.cf.ac.uk (James Davies) Subject: Comparisons of OS, help needed Message-ID: <1994Nov18.162450.7588@cm.cf.ac.uk> Sender: scm4jad@thor.cf.ac.uk (James Davies) Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 16:24:47 +0000
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Bootfloppy (was: Re: HELP! Can I boot off CD?) Date: 18 Nov 94 18:22:44 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.785182964@coricopat> References: <bosborne.784576411@nature.Berkeley.EDU> <Cz4r6t.E18@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: >Brian Osborne (bosborne@nature.Berkeley.EDU) wrote: >: I seem to have lost the pertinent documents, so I need to ask : >: Can I boot off the 3.2 CD? If so, How? I can't start up normally, >: (bad sector), nor from a BootFloppy, so I'm hoping I can startup >: from the CD, and rebuild the disk. Sorry I'm such a Unix ignoramus... >Without the BootFloppy boot strapper, Brian, you cannot boot from the >CD. NeXT sthould be able to supply a replacement. Does anybody know of a way to duplicate a NSFIP Bootfloppy? I haven't bought my ObjectStation yet, but duplicating the bootfloppy is one of the first things I'd like to do. I know of people who screwed their original bootfloppy (on a no-name clone, I have to mention), and had to wait for a replacement. Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NeXT on the Macintosh? Message-ID: <CzGryn.Mq@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard) References: <89DB3E3.0611000001.uuout@loa.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 12:56:47 GMT In article <89DB3E3.0611000001.uuout@loa.com> jonathan.fortes@loa.com (JONATHAN FORTES) writes: #Is there any sort of NeXT emulator for the Macintosh? Nope. Kent -- /* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */ /* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */ /* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L. Shephard Consulting */
From: osg@onramp.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Developers Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 12:28:46 PDT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <3aio2n$dtc@news.onramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NeXT DEVELOPER OSG (Object Systems Group) is a technology-based consultancy that provides assistance to Global 1000 corporations in new and emerging technologies. We currently have an opening in the N.E. for someone with the following experience: NeXT Developer Minimum 3+ years total experience with extensive NeXTStep, AppKit, DBKit and Objective C. Send resume to osg@onramp.net , US mail your resume to Object Systems Group, Inc., Attn: Glenda Maddox, 5001 Infomart, 1950 Stemmons Freeway, Dallas, Tx. 75207, or fax to 214 746-5974.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: CD-ROM driver for 2.1 black Message-ID: <1994Nov18.132755.15366@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <3a8ar9$1u4q@tequesta.gate.net> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 13:27:55 GMT jbakst@gate.net (Jeff Bakst) writes: >Does anyone know of a 2.1 CD-ROM driver for black HW? Are you sure you even need one??? >-- >-- >Jeff Bakst (jbakst@mediascape.com) |MediaScape >The Computer Game Company |V.P. Software >software engineer |voice 407-687-0099 -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: Barcode readers Message-ID: <1994Nov18.133114.15634@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <1994Nov7.164228.17494@news.research.ptt.nl> <39q7ph$17k@machthenext.dannug.dk> <ROBERT.94Nov14230730@steffi.dircon.co.uk> <3a8ur4$amb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 13:31:14 GMT joisha@ces.cwru.edu (G.Prashanth Joisha) writes: > Does anyone know of any barcode readers - need to know about the hardware >device (For Intel/NeXT machine running NextStep 3.2) and related drivers. Also, does anyone know of Nextstep compatible movie cameras. >Regards, >EMail : joisha@alpha.ces.cwru.edu Lots of barcode readers "sit" between the keyboard and the computer. What is typed at the keyboard is just passed on, but when the barcode reader is used that is sent too to the PC. Well with a setup like that, it is compatible with any OS and no driver is needed. The barcode reader is just a keyboard alternative. Bye, Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3ahdnb$egp@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <3ahdnb$egp@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 18 Nov 1994 02:06:20 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3ahn9s$hrf@cobber.cord.edu> <3ahdnb$egp@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3ahnev$htc@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <3ahnev$htc@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 18 Nov 1994 02:22:05 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3aho7d$i1f@cobber.cord.edu> <3ahnev$htc@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3aho6q$i16@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <3aho6q$i16@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 18 Nov 1994 02:22:32 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3aho88$i1k@cobber.cord.edu> <3aho6q$i16@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3aho9k$i2v@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <3aho9k$i2v@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 18 Nov 1994 02:24:07 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3ahob7$i39@cobber.cord.edu> <3aho9k$i2v@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Wanted: app like xv for getting image coordinants Date: 18 Nov 1994 02:25:09 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> I need a program like xv that will show the cursor's coordinants on an image file. I want to use ISMAP mappings in my HTML documents. Thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de Subject: Re: NeXT and ZyXel as a voice mail system? Message-ID: <1994Nov15.182530.1761@jazzpair.freinet.de> Sender: marcus@jazzpair.freinet.de (marcus rvbsamen) Organization: Ruby's private musicbox References: <ROBERT.94Nov14230730@steffi.dircon.co.uk> Distribution: pro audio Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 18:25:30 GMT > Can somebody please post contact information for MIX. i link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH Nollendorfstra e 11 12 10777 Berlin Deutschland Tel: +49 30 216 20 48 Fax: +49 30 215 82 74 mix: +49 30 215 83 42 email: info@ilink.de -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FYI;"!4:6UE<RU2;VUA;CM<9C%< M9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M]"EQM87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*>UQC;VQO M<G1B;#M<<F5D,%QG<F5E;C!<8FQU93`[?0I[7&YE>'1C;VQO<G1B;'M<;F5X M=&-O;&]R,2`P-#!B-S0W.3<P-C4V-#<S-S0W,C8U-C$V9#@Q,#-A,C@T,#$V M,S@Q.#0P,3<S9F4Y,V9E?0I]"EQP87)D7'1X-38P7'1X,3$R,%QT>#$V.#!< M='@R,C0P7'1X,C@P,%QT>#,S-C!<='@S.3(P7'1X-#0X,%QT>#4P-#!<='@U M-C`P7&8P7&(P7&DP7'5L;F]N95QF<S(X7&9C,%QC9C`@/B!#86X@<V]M96)O M9'D@<&QE87-E('!O<W0@8V]N=&%C="!I;F9O<FUA=&EO;B!F;W(@34E8+EP* M7`H*7'!A<F1<='@S-#!<='@W,#!<='@Q,#8P7'1X,30R,%QT>#$W-C!<='@R M,3(P7'1X,C0X,%QT>#(X-#!<='@S,C`P7'1X,S4T,%QF,5QB7&9S-S)<9F,Q M7&-F,2!IMVQI;FL*7&(P7&9S,C0@7`I+;VUM=6YI:V%T:6]N<W-Y<W1E;64@ M1VUB2%P*3F]L;&5N9&]R9G-T<F'[92`Q,;$Q,EP*,3`W-S<@0F5R;&EN7`I$ M975T<V-H;&%N9%P*5&5L.@DK-#D@,S`@L2`R,38@,C`@-#A<"D9A>#H)*S0Y M(#,P(+$@,C$U(#@R(#<T7`IM:7@Z"2LT.2`S,""Q(#(Q-2`X,R`T,EP*96UA 4:6PZ"6EN9F]`:6QI;FLN9&4*?0HZ `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: Re: NeXT on the Macintosh? Message-ID: <1994Nov18.192716.21264@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT References: <89DB3E3.0611000001.uuout@loa.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 19:27:16 GMT JONATHAN FORTES (jonathan.fortes@loa.com) wrote: : Is there any sort of NeXT emulator for the Macintosh? : Jonathan Fortes : <<jonathan.fortes@loa.com>> : <<ab244@osfn.rhilinet.gov>> Good Joke! Hope you didn't expect a serious answer to this question. -- Thomas Katzlberger katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield The AUSTR(al)IAN from EUROPE.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rw@surgicad.com (Randy Witlicki) Subject: Looking for POP3 server for the Next Message-ID: <CzHF1n.D8L@surgicad.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 21:14:13 GMT Can anybody point me to where I might find a POP3 mail server (daemon) for the Next. Thanks in advance for any help. - Randy rw@surgicad.com
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 18 Nov 1994 17:14:27 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aj903$r13@anshar.shadow.net> References: <3adb8u$7d1@anshar.shadow.net> <3agr4f$e72@network.ucsd.edu> Matt Kennel (mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu) wrote: : Although Israel is certainly important in world affairs, one ought : to keep in mind that its population is less than that of the Los Angeles : metropolitan area, and its wealth smaller still, in addition to the : reasonably high level of English literacy amongst the "intellectual elite" : likely to use expensive computers. OTOH, it has one of the world's highest concentrations of scientists and engineers. Why else do Intel, IBM (and many other companies) do much of their R&D in Israel? Put NeXTSTEP in their hands, and you're likely to see amazing results. - Jay
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Wanted: app like xv for getting image coordinants Date: 18 Nov 1994 22:21:06 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aj9ci$6u5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> In article <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) writes: > > I need a program like xv that will show the cursor's coordinants > on an image file. I want to use ISMAP mappings in my HTML documents. > > Thanks in advance. We could *really* use this, too. WetPaint gives coordinates, but it's a clumsy procedure - origin is LOWER LEFT corner rather than UPPER LEFT, as ISMAP requires. So I have to rotat the image 90 degrees, draw polygons on it record their coordinates manually...Wait! TIFFany 2 gives coordinates too! Anyone want to write a bundle for a 3rd party app that will spit out coordinates, or even better, a complete imagemap-builder tool? -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Ste. 201, Champaign, IL, 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Bootfloppy (was: Re: HELP! Can I boot off CD?) Message-ID: <CzHHB2.326@eskimo.com> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <bosborne.784576411@nature.Berkeley.EDU> <Cz4r6t.E18@eskimo.com> <neuss.785182964@coricopat> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 22:04:08 GMT Christian Neuss (neuss@igd.fhg.de) wrote: : Does anybody know of a way to duplicate a NSFIP Bootfloppy? : I haven't bought my ObjectStation yet, but duplicating the bootfloppy : is one of the first things I'd like to do. I know of people who : screwed their original bootfloppy (on a no-name clone, I have to : mention), and had to wait for a replacement. You will find answers like this in NeXTAnswers, Chris: Start a terminal session. At the session prompt, and with the original diskette in your floppy drive, enter the following: dd if=/dev/rfd0b of=/tmp/image conv=sync bs=8k Replace the original with a blank floppy, and enter the following: dd if=/tmp/image of=/dev/rfd0b conv=sync bs=8k -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: tpg@mr.net (Terry Gliedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New sendmail Date: 18 Nov 1994 16:32:40 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <oinFyjhz0001A0UHod@mr.net> I'm quite certain I have seen posts regarding the latest version of Sendmail (8.6.9?) for my black NeXTstation. A search of the usual NeXT FTP sites did not find it. Am I dreaming? I was sorta hoping to find a pre-compiled version on the net, rather than go through getting the sources and building it. Thanks in advance for your responses. =================================================================== Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710
From: dario@osmin.cns.nyu.edu (Dario Ringach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NS/I Driver for Colorado Backup Tape? Date: 17 Nov 1994 20:32:16 GMT Organization: New York University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3agekg$5r@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Is there a NS for Intel driver for the Colorado Backup Tape? Thanks in advance... -- Dario Ringach | office: (212) 998-7614 Center for Neural Science | home: (212) 727-9346 New York University | e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: g8udgl@fnma.com (David G. Lewis) Subject: NeXT CM Tools: seeking input on DevMan, Aide-de-Camp Message-ID: <1994Nov18.224236.26022@almserv.uucp> Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp Organization: Fannie Mae Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 22:42:36 GMT Hi Everyone: We are evaluating CM tools for NeXT, including DevMan and Aide-de-Camp. If you have any good or bad experiences to relate about these products or their companies, I'd appreciate your input. I will post a summary. If you have any specific experiences with other commercial tools on NeXT (don't need to hear about RCS or CVS -- we know the ins and outs) I'd appreciate hearing about those too. Thanks! DL -- David Lewis DARTS Development Team TRAX Development Team g8udgl@fnma.com (NeXTmail OK), 202-752-4785
From: furuike!hugh%furuike@tanuki.twics.com (Hugh Ashton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help again with ADB monitor Date: 18 Nov 1994 23:34:22 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <941119142857.217AAC4F.hugh@furuike> Sorry to take up bandwidth again, but something is playing up on my Turbo ADB monochrome station. Symptoms are a flicker on the screen, which is especially noticable on the screen saver, and on the dark unscanned area aroung the Workspace). The diagonal (nearly horizonatal) scan lines are sometimes visible. Occasionally, the flicker is strong enough to make itself visible on the NX_LIGHTGRAY and NX_DARKGRAY objects on the screen (as well as black ones). This comes and goes (after my last posting, it went away for about 4 weeks, reappeared, went way for a day, came back). I've had the back off the monitor and adjusted various settings with a ceramic screwdriver - the result is to make the display better (I hadn't really appreciated how bad the geometry had been before), but the flicker is stilll there. I've also had an 8Mb SIMM go down (used to have 32Mb, now down to 16 (these things work in pairs, right? so that if one of a pair goes down, the other won't kick in?) - but taking out every SIMM and reseating it, which I did to discover the baddie, hasn't cured the flicker. Has anyone else ever seen anything like this? What did you do about it? I have this horrible feeling that the motherboard video cicuitry is shot. If this turns out to be the case: i) Is it possible, if I can get hold of the motherboard, to replace it myself with relatively few problems (anyone done this?)? ii) I have some hostid keyed software (NXFax, etc.). Does the hostid live on the ROM, and is it therefore possible to replace the ROM to keep my hostid? The news server I generally use is down, thanks to a failed hard disk (it's a bad time of year for hardware in Japan!), and so I'm going through this gateway. Please repply by e-mail to the address below. Thanks in advance... +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Hugh Ashton -- Furuike Systems | | Tokyo-to, Mitaka-shi, Jindaiji 2-35-51, Premier Niiya 201 | | (inside Japan) tel: 0422-31-7990 fax: 0422-31-7048 | | (international) tel: +81 422-31-7990 fax: +81 422-31-7048 | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | WWW: http://www.twics.com/~HUGH/service.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Subject: Help! Can't get PPP going on 3.0 mono slab Message-ID: <CzIy5p.8E@ants.ci.net> Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 17:05:48 GMT Hi all, Having been handed a little time this weekend, I've deceided to get ppp going on my slab. The version is the most recent. I can't get mine going, after a considerable bit of work. Here my confiugration: 040 mono slab 20 Megs RAM NS 3.0 I get the following messages when it tries to load the kernal: Adding server with relocatable /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc kern_loader: /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc is not a Mach object file kern_loader: Mapping relocatable /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc failed Server ppp_reloc didn't initialize Server ppp_reloc deallocating Server ppp_reloc Deallocated kl_util: unknown error(110) or, from the console, Nov 19 11:22:39 ants kern_loader: kern_loader: /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc is not a Mach object file Nov 19 11:22:39 ants kern_loader: kern_loader: /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc is not a Mach object file Nov 19 11:22:39 ants kern_loader: kern_loader: Mapping relocatable /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc failed Nov 19 11:22:39 ants kern_loader: kern_loader: Mapping relocatable /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc failed I tried changing the permissions on /usr/local/ppp/reloc/ppp_reloc because it wasn't executable as installed, but this yeielded the same message. I even tried using the earlier version of the kernal that was included in the distribution, but, once again, the same messages. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get this working? Thanks in advance. Peace, James --- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate Andover Newton Theological School e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net 7 Flint Road Phone: 617-926-6024 Watertown, MA 02172 NeXTMAIL accepted Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116 (Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730 _____________________________________________________________________ -- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate
From: howar016@mc.duke.edu (Denise Howard Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Chicagoans please read Date: 19 Nov 1994 21:39:20 GMT Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3alra8$qg7@news.duke.edu> If you were one of the Chicago-area NeXTies who dropped me a note in the past week, please e-mail me again! My entire ~/Mailboxes directory has been lost thanks to a bad 2.88 MB floppy. I can recover it all from backups, _except_ for mail I received in the past week. :-( Denise -- Denise Howard | MOVING TO CHICAGO Thanksgiving Duke Med Center Info Systems | week. If you live in the west Durham, NC | burbs, drop me a note! (919) 286-6468 W |
From: frank@miranda.tue.schwaben.de (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Searching for PIXAR NextTime/Quicktime on CD Date: 17 Nov 1994 11:00:42 GMT Organization: Privat Internet site in Tuebingen/Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3afd4r$eg3@hades.tue.schwaben.de> Keywords: nexttime I am searching for a CD containing the well-known PIXAR animations (snowman, etc...) as quicktime/nexttime. Can anyone give me a pointer? -- Frank Siegert [frank@miranda.tue.schwaben.de] Plain acsii mail only --------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best evidence of intelligent life in outer space is that nobody has tried to contact us." <author unknown> which is about the same performance. > > : But: A good SCSI disk with a PCI controller beats you by at least factor 2. > > Well, the reading for a good SCSI disk/PCI controller is 3 times faster, > but the writing speed (as least for my setup) is somewhat *slower*. An EISA controler is not a bad choice either: IOZONE performance measurements (16 Megabyte sequential file): 1204236 bytes/second for writing the file 1632156 bytes/second for reading the file (9 Megabyte sequential file): 1200690 bytes/second for writing the file 5927447 bytes/second for reading the file <--- caching effect running on a 486 DX2 EISA/VLB 32MB, DPT 2122/4MByte Cache set to Write Throu. The harddisk is a DEC DPS3053L 96% full, write cache on HD is not enabled. IMHO the DPT really burns holes. -- Frank Siegert [frank@miranda.tue.schwaben.de] Plain ascii mail only --------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best evidence of intelligent life in outer space is that nobody has tried to contact us." <author unknown>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU> Message-ID: <9411192026.AA27594@alleg.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1) From: Tim Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 94 15:26:02 -0500 Subject: cshrc: do certain things for certain apps Hiya. I'd like my cshrc file do certain actions depending on which application is accessing it. ie if Stuart then if Terminal then if GatorFTP then if RBRowser then Can anyone tell me if this is possible and if so, how to go about it? Many thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: oscar@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) Subject: NeXTStep V3.2 & Windows 95 Beta 2 Message-ID: <CzJFI3.6C@nx1.westminster.ca.us> Sender: root@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso) Organization: Oscar S. Alonso Software Enginnering. Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 23:20:26 GMT Has anyone manage to get Windows 95 Beta 2 working as a dual boot with NeXTStep V3.2 on a IDE based disk? I have not been very successful, I keep getting "General Error 57" during installion. Does any one have any suggesstions? Oscar S. Alonso oscar@nx1.westmisnter.ca.us
From: wli@linus (Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.hardware Subject: NeXT laser printer for PC? Date: 19 Nov 1994 19:48:58 GMT Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock Message-ID: <3alkrb$276@gould.ualr.edu> I would greatly appreciate information concerning using NeXT laser print with non-NeXT machines such as PC or Mac. Please email me at wli@linus.ualr.edu. Thanks. -wei,
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Wanted: app like xv for getting image coordinants Date: 20 Nov 1994 12:22:30 -0800 Organization: Cal Poly, State University Message-ID: <3aob66$qsc@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> <3aj9ci$6u5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste The orgin is at the bottom left because that is where DPS puts it. Graphics Workshop (an image conversion tool) could probably do this, and has the added benefit of reading many different image types. Send mail to araftis@lore.acs.calpoly.edu (Alex Raftis: author of Graphics Workshop). -Mont Dover Pacific Computing Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Subject: Re: Bootfloppy (was: Re: HELP! Can I boot off CD?) Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ) Message-ID: <CzL18r.8FG@prz.tu-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 20:07:38 GMT References: <bosborne.784576411@nature.Berkeley.EDU> <Cz4r6t.E18@eskimo.com> <neuss.785182964@coricopat> <CzHHB2.326@eskimo.com> Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote: > Christian Neuss (neuss@igd.fhg.de) wrote: > : Does anybody know of a way to duplicate a NSFIP Bootfloppy? > : I haven't bought my ObjectStation yet, but duplicating the bootfloppy > : is one of the first things I'd like to do. I know of people who > : screwed their original bootfloppy (on a no-name clone, I have to > : mention), and had to wait for a replacement. > You will find answers like this in NeXTAnswers, Chris: > Start a terminal session. At the session prompt, and with the > original diskette in your floppy drive, enter the following: > dd if=/dev/rfd0b of=/tmp/image conv=sync bs=8k > Replace the original with a blank floppy, and enter the following: > dd if=/tmp/image of=/dev/rfd0b conv=sync bs=8k You can also just use a disk doubler under DOS (like dd or hd-copy, e.g.). I made the strange expierence that when I booted from a duplicated boot floppy which was created with dd under NS (and formatted under NS too) I got read errors and couldn't boot. Same floppy made no problems when I formatted and duplicated it under DOS before. Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:/~wolf _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
From: uk05899@mik.uky.edu (christopher edward etesse) Newsgroups: comp.lang.pascal,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where to find latest version of p2c for NeXT Date: 20 Nov 94 21:32:38 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <uk05899.785367158@mik.uky.edu> Anyone know where I can find the latest version of p2c for 040 NeXT station. I know there was a version p2c-1.21alpha-07.Dec.93. Any ideas? Thanks - Chris o
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman) Subject: Re: cshrc: do certain things for certain apps Message-ID: <CzKw8s.1Ho@basil.icce.rug.nl> Originator: root@obelix.icce.rug.nl Sender: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman) Organization: Lofty Waters References: <9411192026.AA27594@alleg.EDU> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 18:19:40 GMT In article <9411192026.AA27594@alleg.EDU> writes: > > Hiya. I'd like my cshrc file do certain actions depending on which > application is accessing it. > > ie > > if Stuart then > > if Terminal then > > if GatorFTP then > > if RBRowser then > > Can anyone tell me if this is possible and if so, how to go about it? Try: set supershell=`ps -alc | awk '{ ppid[$3]=$4; name[$3]=$NF; }\ END { pid='$$'; while (name[ppid[pid]]==name[pid]) pid=ppid[pid];\ print name[ppid[pid]]; }'` if ($supershell == Stuart) etc. -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTMail accepted] __/ __/_/ __/__/__/ "...to baldly go where no one has gone before." __/ _/_/ -- star trek TNG
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 20 Nov 1994 22:48:33 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aojo1$fag@network.ucsd.edu> References: <3aj903$r13@anshar.shadow.net> Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote: : Matt Kennel (mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu) wrote: : : Although Israel is certainly important in world affairs, one ought : : to keep in mind that its population is less than that of the Los Angeles : : metropolitan area, and its wealth smaller still, in addition to the : : reasonably high level of English literacy amongst the "intellectual elite" : : likely to use expensive computers. : OTOH, it has one of the world's highest concentrations of scientists : and engineers. Why else do Intel, IBM (and many other companies) : do much of their R&D in Israel? Put NeXTSTEP in their hands, and you're : likely to see amazing results. No argument. The question is whether to devote resources to a Hebrew language system. These scientists know and use English. Indeed, for many Hebrew would be their third language, after Russian and English. : - Jay -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: nkawai@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) Subject: Re: SUBMISSION:NewsBase and MMEdit triple fat Message-ID: <CzLMxE.CtG@postman.riken.go.jp> Sender: news@postman.riken.go.jp (News Administrator) Organization: Institute of Physical & Chemical Research (RIKEN) Saitama,Japan References: <3aghvo$ha@digifix.digifix.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 03:56:02 GMT Philippe Provost writes > > This is the complementary annoucement concerning NewsBase 3 and its > companion applaction MMEdit. I am puzzled to find no acknowledgmnts to the original authors of NewsBase (K. Miyai, G. Arakaki, K. Suzuki, and K. Lue) in this announcement.
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 21 Nov 1994 05:13:16 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3apa9c$rub@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3adb8u$7d1@anshar.shadow.net> <3agr4f$e72@network.ucsd.edu> <3aj903$r13@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes: >Matt Kennel (mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu) wrote: >: Although Israel is certainly important in world affairs, one ought >: to keep in mind that its population is less than that of the Los Angeles >: metropolitan area, and its wealth smaller still, in addition to the >: reasonably high level of English literacy amongst the "intellectual elite" >: likely to use expensive computers. >OTOH, it has one of the world's highest concentrations of scientists >and engineers. Why else do Intel, IBM (and many other companies) >do much of their R&D in Israel? Put NeXTSTEP in their hands, and you're >likely to see amazing results. Matt is right. I have worked for Intel in Israel (at their Haifa Design Center) and all of the computer work done by the upper users of computers is done in English. We all used X stations or RS/6000's doing UNIX programming/simulations in English. (even though many of the conversations between engineers were in Hebrew :-) it made for interesting meetings, when people mixed the two languages: Hebrew and UNIX) The Hebrew market in Israel would be the vertical markets like NeXT is focusing on now in the US: hospitals, financial, etc. Those people in Israel are using PC's that use Hebrew character sets. (there are several database products that are in Hebrew, such as MAGIC) -- David Lemson (217) 244-8833 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Chicagoans please read Date: 21 Nov 1994 05:15:35 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3apadn$s9k@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3alra8$qg7@news.duke.edu> howar016@mc.duke.edu (Denise Howard Blakeley) writes: >If you were one of the Chicago-area NeXTies who dropped me a note in the past >week, please e-mail me again! >My entire ~/Mailboxes directory has been lost thanks to a bad 2.88 MB floppy. >I can recover it all from backups, _except_ for mail I received in the past >week. :-( There are certainly peeeelenty of NeXT jobs in Chicago... where are you going? I worked at First Chicago a few summers back. -- David Lemson (217) 244-8833 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 19 Nov 1994 15:54:37 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3als6t$efd@cobber.cord.edu> <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: jhtom@comtch.iea.com (J.H. Tomlinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What is... Date: 21 Nov 1994 08:26:00 GMT Organization: CompuTech, Spokane WA Message-ID: <3aplio$aea@krel.iea.com> Could someone tell me what a Next system is?? Is it better for game Developers? Chris
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SUBMISSION:NewsBase and MMEdit triple fat Date: 21 Nov 1994 09:44:24 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov21094425@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <3aghvo$ha@digifix.digifix.com> <CzLMxE.CtG@postman.riken.go.jp> To: nkawai@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) In-reply-to: nkawai@rkna50.riken.go.jp's message of Mon, 21 Nov 1994 03:56:02 GMT >>>>> "NK" == Nobuyuki Kawai <nkawai@rkna50.riken.go.jp> writes: NK>Philippe Provost writes >> >>This is the complementary annoucement concerning NewsBase 3 and its >>companion applaction MMEdit. NK>I am puzzled to find no acknowledgmnts to the original authors of NewsBase NK>(K. Miyai, G. Arakaki, K. Suzuki, and K. Lue) in this announcement. They are still mentioned in the info panel as before and I don't think anybody really things that Phillipe actually wrote _all_ the code. -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: teeleh@xs4all.nl (teeleh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Windows ICONS into NeXT Date: 21 Nov 1994 11:12:19 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <3apvaj$36r@news.xs4all.nl> Keywords: ICONS Hi there: I would like to convert some icons from a windows icon CD into a NeXT usable icon file. Does anybody know a public domain program to do the trick (the windows icons are in .ico format) Thanks, Teele H. Horstra
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: NetInfo "All Objects Are Read Only"? Message-ID: <CzMHFt.KwB@aetnacan> Keywords: netinfo Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 14:55:04 GMT In my travels with TransSys PNI SLIP, I have encountered the above situation and also discovered that this will happen after the FIRST time you bring up a PNI link... 1) Is there any way to "fix" this (gee...would be nice to add a printer or new user accounts after I've run PNI!!) 2) Is this the "normal" behavior? 3) What, technically, induces this behaviour from NetInfo (is there a switch/flag/etc)? Thanks! Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: slr@asysa.demon.co.uk (Stephen Rhodes) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: rsynth-2.0 released. Keywords: speech, synthesis Organization: Advanced System Architectures Ltd. References: <39og5q$roo@superb.csc.ti.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 13:00:27 +0000 Message-ID: <CzMC4t.AEv@asysa.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <39og5q$roo@superb.csc.ti.com> nik@tiuk.ti.com writes: > A new release of rsynth is now available. > > rsynth is a "public domain" text-to-speech system assembled from a > a variety of sources. This release has been tested on: > > Sun SPARCs - Solaris2.3 and SunOS4.1.3 > HPUX > SGI irix4.x (may be problems on irix5 see README.sgi) > linux > > Previous release worked on NeXT, and an attempt has been made to > comprehend it in the "configure", but I have been unable to test it. > Anyone willing to test on NeXT please email me. > > This release is mainly a software cleanup release, but there are some > new features: > > * Now has GNU autoconf generated "configure" script to build Makefile. > > * Supports CMU or "beep" format dictionaries by loading them into > a GNU gdbm file. (URLs for FTPing dictionaries are in the README). > *note* - requires GNU gdbm to be available, it is available > from all the GNU mirror sites. (I use gdbm-1.7.3 but some earlier > versions work as well.) > The CMU dictionary has a very liberal copyright, so should be usable > by almost anyone. > > * Uses stress marks in the dictionaries to affect intonation. > > * Sun/NeXT format .au/.snd files now writable on all platforms > (as this format has a header it should be convertible via "sox" > to most other formats.) > > * Supports "say --help" to give basic command line option details. > > rsynth is available via anonymous FTP from : > > ftp://svr-ftp.eng.cam.ac.uk/comp.speech/sources/rsynth-2.0.tar.gz > > (I am sure Tony would welcome other sites holding the sources too > to reduce the load. Please let me know where they are and > who to contact when updates are available.) > > Please let me know if you get it to work, particularly ports to new > platforms. > > Please not that this is a private project and Texas Instruments is > not responsible in any manner. > > Nick Ing-Simmons via nik@tiuk.ti.com I've just successfully built this on NexTStep 3.2 with only two minor problems. I had to remove the -lm from the load to prevent symbol table clash and of course the pathname of the NeXT specific .c file is different to the readme. I have also added the `beep' dictionary with no trouble though a warning for how long it takes to process might be a useful addition to the readme!
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS/I Driver for Colorado Backup Tape? Date: 21 Nov 1994 16:22:51 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3aqhgr$ho6@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3agekg$5r@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> In article <3agekg$5r@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> dario@osmin.cns.nyu.edu (Dario Ringach) writes: > > Is there a NS for Intel driver for the Colorado Backup Tape? > Thanks in advance... > > -- > Dario Ringach | office: (212) 998-7614 > Center for Neural Science | home: (212) 727-9346 > New York University | e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu SafetyNet by Systemix Software should do the trick. Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ATI Graphics cards Date: 21 Nov 1994 16:18:35 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <3aqh8r$2tt@hermes.dna.mci.com> Hello there: I'm considering building a system and I would like to know if anybody out there has successfully installed and run NS 3.2 (and NS 3.3 beta) with the following video cards from ATI: 1. Graphics Pro Turbo 2. Winturbo 3. Graphics Xpression I'm aware that there's an ATI Graphics Pro driver but I haven't heard whether that's compatible with the cards listed above. Please e-mail me directly and I'll summarize if there's interest. Thanks, Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bjanzen@lexmark.com(Barry Janzen) Subject: Re: Wanted: app like xv for getting image coordinants Sender: usenet@lexmark.com (News Dude) Message-ID: <CzMM2D.8C2@lexmark.com> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 16:35:00 GMT References: <3aj9ci$6u5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY In article <3aj9ci$6u5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) writes: > In article <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) writes: > > > > I need a program like xv that will show the cursor's coordinants > > on an image file. I want to use ISMAP mappings in my HTML documents. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > We could *really* use this, too. WetPaint gives coordinates, but it's a clumsy > procedure - origin is LOWER LEFT corner rather than UPPER LEFT, as ISMAP requires. > So I have to rotat the image 90 degrees, draw polygons on it record their > coordinates manually...Wait! TIFFany 2 gives coordinates too! Anyone want to write a > bundle for a 3rd party app that will spit out coordinates, or even better, a > complete imagemap-builder tool? Wait a minute. It's simpler than that, isn't it? This was a part of Iconbuilder.app in 2.0 (I think it was Icon.app back then). I kept a copy around to do images in 3.0 (granted they do start with 0,0 lower left as you mentioned). Just write a tool that can be loaded into Iconbuilder.app... BTW, how do you write a tool for Iconbuilder.app? Are there any add-on tools even in existance? Barry Janzen bjanzen@lexmark.com
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SoundBlaster16 support under NS 3.3? Date: 21 Nov 1994 17:40:22 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <3aqm26$3rh@hermes.dna.mci.com> Hello there: I would like to know if there will be a driver for the SoundBlaster16 under NS 3.3 or will I have to purchase the driver through Talus. Please e-mail me directly and I'll summarize if there's interest. Thanks, Alex
From: - (-) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: listproc on NeXTStep (black 3.2) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 12:54:35 -0500 Organization: - Message-ID: <--211194125435@f181-183.net.wisc.edu> Do any of you know if there is a binary available for listproc on nexts (black 3.2) I have been trying to find a working version of it. Thanks, Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Re: Printing rtfd pages Message-ID: <1994Nov21.175101.9309@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 17:51:01 GMT References: <1994Nov7.121904.26921@investor.pgh.pa.us> <CzBt8t.I53@agedwards.com> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <CzBt8t.I53@agedwards.com> cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) writes: >In article <1994Nov7.121904.26921@investor.pgh.pa.us>, >Bob Peirce #305 <rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us> wrote: >>I have a manual I want to print that is stored in a group of rtfd >>directories. I have two problems. 1) I need to estimate how many pages >>will print, something like wc for ASCII files. 2) I want to print the >>even pages, flip the stack and print the odd pages, like some of the PS >>programs out there. >> >>Can you offer any ideas or suggestion? > >Why not "print" them all to files, combine the files, and then >select the even or odd pages depending on your needs? > >The psutils utilities will certainly prove themselves invaluable >in this case, and can be found in an archie database near you. > I have received similar suggestions from several folks and I want to thank everybody who offered a suggestion. However, this is what I HAVE been doing and it is exactly what I am trying to avoid! Actually, I already have a better way. I import into WriteUp, resize the text if needed and print the even and odd pages. However, that still doesn't answer my primary question, which is to determine the size of the eventual book BEFORE I start to work with it. If this were ASCII, I would say "pr file_list | wc -l" and divide the result by 66 to know how many pages would print. To date nobody has suggested anything as simple that will work with rtf or rtfd docs. If there isn't such a tool this would be a great utility for someone to build!!! -- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: msander@bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT on the Macintosh? Date: 21 Nov 1994 19:32:25 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research Message-ID: <MSANDER.94Nov21143226@bcarh85b.bnr.ca> References: <89DB3E3.0611000001.uuout@loa.com> <1994Nov18.192716.21264@news.vanderbilt.edu> In-reply-to: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu's message of Fri, 18 Nov 1994 19:27:16 GMT In article <1994Nov18.192716.21264@news.vanderbilt.edu> katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) writes: JONATHAN FORTES (jonathan.fortes@loa.com) wrote: : Is there any sort of NeXT emulator for the Macintosh? : Jonathan Fortes : <<jonathan.fortes@loa.com>> : <<ab244@osfn.rhilinet.gov>> Good Joke! Hope you didn't expect a serious answer to this question. Actually, while not exactly an emulator, a friend of mine showed me a Macintosh desk accessory that replaced the regular Mac windows with NEXTSTEP-style ones. i.e. The close button was on the *right* :-) side and the windows used active scrolling. Of course it was just a facade ... but if enough Mac guys got use to using it ...??? -- Michael Sanderson msander@bnr.ca ISDN Data Services (613) 765-3715 Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Ottawa, Canada "These opinions are mine ... which is good 'cause no one else wants 'em"
From: ramin@ping.at (Ramin Darakhschani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXT V3.3 where to get ? Date: 21 Nov 1994 21:57:07 GMT Organization: home Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ar53j$naa@pong.ping.at> Hi there all of you, I have V3.2 educational upgraded for free from V3.1. Where and how do i get an update and what will it cost me ? The store where i bought the thing isnt very well informed. I live in Austria (Europe) and there aint very much people around who use nextstep. I also have a soundblaster 16cd. Is it supported, where do i get the drivers for V3.2 ? Thanks in advance for your answers. Ramin ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Wanted: app like xv for getting image coordinants References: <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> <3aj9ci$6u5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 09:08:15 GMT Message-ID: <1994Nov21.090815.10169@proximus.north.de> In article <3aj9ci$6u5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Steve Weintz <indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote: >In article <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) writes: >> >> I need a program like xv that will show the cursor's coordinants >We could *really* use this, too. WetPaint gives coordinates, but it's a clumsy >procedure I just found what could be a pretty optimal solution for that. It's called piXel.app and is for free! Look for it at the archives, for example at ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/next/Graphics/bitmap/piXel.1.2.NIH.b.tar.gz (It's triple-fat) It gives you a double cross-hair, which shows the coordinates, the width and the height of a selected region in a solution of 1/1000 mm - you can also enter the coordinates of a region directly. Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: precompiled 'pico' for the NeXT? Date: 21 Nov 1994 16:17:03 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411212216.AA01133@alleg.EDU> If anyone has a recent compiled version of pico for the NeXT, please let me know. I've tried to compile it myself with no luck (I should know better) Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
From: skeezics@teleport.com (Skeezics Boondoggle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Dove Fax won't send under NS3.2!? Date: 21 Nov 1994 14:16:15 -0800 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <3ar67f$jcf@elaine.teleport.com> Summary: receives fine, won't send Keywords: "local unsupported" It seems our Dove Fax won't send faxes anymore. I don't think it has since we upgraded to NeXTSTEP 3.2 (black). I've looked at everything I can think to look at and there are no clues. The modem dials, connects, then immediately a dialog pops up and the transmission fails before anything is actually sent... The dialog that pops up reads (roughly): Your fax to <so-and-so> at <such-and-such> could not be delivered. The document uses features not supported by the fax software. I've tried sending with/without the cover page, with/without "trimming", in fine and standard resolutions. I've tried sending from different applications, from Frame to Edit ("This is a test fax." in 10-pt Times Roman) with the same result. Looking back through the log file we've had only two or three faxes go out successfully, but receiving works fine. This is with version 1.00 of the Dove Fax driver. Anybody have a clue? A solution? A newer driver? A bridge you want to sell me? Reg'lar & NeXTmail to chris@coworkers.com would be much appreciated! Thanks, -- Chris -- skeezics@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: Does the Chinon CDA-535 cd-rom work with a NeXTstation? Message-ID: <CznLrB.BI2@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: na Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 05:25:58 GMT Hi. Title says it all. Tell me your experiences. Thanks. Ze Tomas
From: massagja@pegate.byu.edu (John Massaglia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT on the Macintosh? Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 16:11:46 -0600 Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <massagja-2111941611460001@sprawl.byu.edu> References: <89DB3E3.0611000001.uuout@loa.com> <CzGryn.Mq@infoserv.com> In article <CzGryn.Mq@infoserv.com>, kent@infoserv.com wrote: > In article <89DB3E3.0611000001.uuout@loa.com> jonathan.fortes@loa.com (JONATHAN > FORTES) writes: > #Is there any sort of NeXT emulator for the Macintosh? > > Nope. > There are some extentions and control panels which will make your windows look like NeXT windows. One of them even switches the corners. That's about all that I know of. John Massaglia massagja@pegate.byu.edu Workers of the World: Relax! massagliaj@yvax.byu.edu GO d-- H- s:- !g p2 au a- w+ C++$ U- P+ L 3 E? N+++ K- W--- M++ V -po+ V+ t+ !5 j++ R- G' !tv b+ D B-- e+ u* h--- f r+++ !n y?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Printer help... Message-ID: <dgursky.785449857@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 20:30:57 GMT I seem to recall that there is a parameter you can set in the Printer entry in the Netinfo database for a non-NeXT printer that forces the system to download non-resident fonts. Can anyone tell me what this is or more about it? [Or am I completely incorrect on this count?] -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Quality Systems, Incorporated e-mail: ..... ddg@qsi.com 4000 Legato Road voice: .. (703) 352-9200 Fairfax, VA 22033 fax: .. (703) 352-9216
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 display driver list Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:29:34 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3aragu$19f@rosie.next.com> This document has just been added to NeXTanswers as document 1714. Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 DISPLAY DRIVERS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Revised: November 21, 1994 Disclaimer: This list is intended as a stopgap measure pending the release of the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Hardware Compatibility Guide. It includes the most up-to-date driver availability information possible at the revision date but does not include in-depth information about the drivers. For more information, contact NeXT Technical Support at ask_next@next.com or (800) 955-NEXT. Key: Driver Description PC Bus Supported Current / Future Avail Additional information PC Bus Abbreviations: CLB = Custom LocalBus VLB = VESA LocalBus PCM = PC/MCIA Current Availability Codes: 3.2 CD = ships with NEXTSTEP 3.2 xxxx/xxxx = 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers (driver/readme doc numbers) Beta xxxx/xxxx = beta 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers Future Availability Codes: 3.3 CD = will ship with NEXTSTEP 3.3 3.3 NA = will be available in NeXTanswers on or about the time 3.3 ships Qx 95 = will be available in the listed quarter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATI CLB/EISA/VLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Adapters: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro Systems: Intel GX/Pro, Data Gen. Dasher DE2, AST Premmia 4D, Gateway V Series ATI Mach32 CLB/EISA/VLB/PCI Beta 1704/1705 / 3.3 NA Adapters: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, ATI Ultra Graphics Pro XLR Systems: Intel GX/Pro, Data Gen. Dasher DE2, AST Premmia 4D, Gateway V Series ATI Mach64 VLB/PCI Planned / 3.3 NA Adapters: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro Turbo Canon object.station 41 CLB 1632/1674 / 3.3 CD Systems: Canon object.station 41 Chips & Technologies Wingine CLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Systems: Epson, LGI Chips & Technologies Wingine 64300 CLB Planned / Q1 95 Systems: NEC Powermate Cirrus Logic GD542X Family CLB/ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 NA Cirrus Logic GD5434 CLB/VLB/PCI Beta 1707/1708 / 3.3 NA Adapters: Diamond Stealth 32 Systems: Elonex WS4100, Intel Premier Compaq QVision CLB/EISA/PCI 1701/1700 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Compaq QVision 1024E, Compaq QVision 1280E (Compaq QVision 2000 not supported) Systems: Compaq Deskpro XE 486, Compaq Deskpro XE 560 DECpc S3Vision864 VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95 Dell DGX (JAWS) CLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Systems: Dell 450DE/2 DGX Diamond Stealth64 VLB/PCI 1586/1587 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Diamond Steath 64 Diamond Stealth64 DRAM VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95 HP Vectra XP CLB 1588/1589 / 3.3 CD Systems: HP Vectra XP Number Nine GXE Family VLB/PCI Beta 1617/1618 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Number Nine GXE Level 10, Number Nine GXE Level 11, Number Nine GXE Level 12, Number Nine GXE Level 14, Number Nine GXE Level 16 (VRAM) Number Nine GXE64 Pro VLB/PCI 1584/1585 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Number Nine GXE64 Pro, Number Nine GXE64 Pro-1600 (VRAM) (Number Nine GXE64 not supported) Number Nine Imagine128 PCI Planned / Q1 95 S3 805 / 928 CLB/VLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 NA Systems: IBM PS/ValuePoint S3 Trio CLB/VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95 STB Pegasus VLB Beta 1619/1620 / 3.3 CD Adapters: STB Pegasus (VRAM) Tseng Labs ET4000 CLB/ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Tseng Labs ET4000W32 CLB/VLB Beta 1621/1622 / Q1 95 Adapters: STB Lightspeed Systems: NEC Image VGA ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Weitek Power 9000 VLB/PCI 1557/1558 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Diamond Viper, Genoa VideoBlitz 9200 Weitek Power 9100 VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95 Adapters: Diamond Viper Pro (VRAM) Western Digital WD90C24 CLB Planned / 3.3 CD Systems: NEC Versa E Series, NEC Versa V Series, Compaq LTE Elite
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 networking driver list Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:31:53 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3aral9$19i@rosie.next.com> This document has just been added to NeXTanswers as document 1713. Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 NETWORKING DRIVERS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Revised: November 21, 1994 Disclaimer: This list is intended as a stopgap measure pending the release of the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Hardware Compatibility Guide. It includes the most up-to-date driver availability information possible at the revision date but does not include in-depth information about the drivers. For more information, contact NeXT Technical Support at ask_next@next.com or (800) 955-NEXT. Key: Driver Description PC Bus Supported Current / Future Avail Additional information PC Bus Abbreviations: CLB = Custom LocalBus VLB = VESA LocalBus PCM = PC/MCIA Current Availability Codes: 3.2 CD = ships with NEXTSTEP 3.2 xxxx/xxxx = 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers (driver/readme doc numbers) Beta xxxx/xxxx = beta 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers Future Availability Codes: 3.3 CD = will ship with NEXTSTEP 3.3 3.3 NA = will be available in NeXTanswers on or about the time 3.3 ships Qx 95 = will be available in the listed quarter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3COM EtherLink III ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Adapters: 3COM EtherLink III AMD 79C974 CLB/PCI Planned / 3.3 NA Systems: Compaq Deskpro XL, HP Vectra XU AMD PCnet32 CLB/PCI 1687/1688 / 3.3 CD Systems: Canon object.station 41, Elonex WS4100 Cogent EM960 PCI PCI 1668/1667 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Cogent EM960C, Cogent EM960TP, Cogent EM964TP (four ports; only one supported) Cogent EMaster EISA EISA 1565/1564 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Cogent EM932, Cogent EM932TP, Cogent EM935XL HP Vectra XM, XP Integrated CLB 1623/1624 / 3.3 CD Systems: HP Vectra XM, HP Vectra XP IBM Token Ring ISA 1524/1523 / 3.3 CD Adapters: IBM 25F7367, IBM 25F9858, IBM 67XD438, IBM 60G3994A Intel 82595 Chipset ISA/PCM Planned / 3.3 CD Adapters: Cogent EM595TP, Cogent EM595C, Cogent EM525, Cogent EM525TP, Cogent EM525C Intel EtherExpress 16 ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Adapters: Intel EtherExpress16, Intel EtherExpress16TP, Intel EtherExpress16C Intel Flash32 EISA Planned / Q1 95 Adapters: Intel EILA8225 Intel TokenExpress ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD SMC EtherCard Elite Ultra 16 ISA Planned / Q1 95 Adapters: SMC EtherCard Elita Ultra16, SMC EtherCard Elita Ultra16T, SMC EtherCard Elita Ultra16C SMC EtherElite 16 ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Xircom Performance Series PCM Planned / Q1 95 Adapters: Xircom PS-CE2-10BT, Xircom PS-CE2-10BC
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 SCSI driver list Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:34:50 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3araqq$19l@rosie.next.com> This document has just been added to NeXTanswers as document 1712. Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SCSI DRIVERS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Revised: November 21, 1994 Disclaimer: This list is intended as a stopgap measure pending the release of the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Hardware Compatibility Guide. It includes the most up-to-date driver availability information possible at the revision date but does not include in-depth information about the drivers. For more information, contact NeXT Technical Support at ask_next@next.com or (800) 955-NEXT. Key: Driver Description PC Bus Supported Current / Future Avail Additional information PC Bus Abbreviations: CLB = Custom LocalBus VLB = VESA LocalBus PCM = PC/MCIA Current Availability Codes: 3.2 CD = ships with NEXTSTEP 3.2 xxxx/xxxx = 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers (driver/readme doc numbers) Beta xxxx/xxxx = beta 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers Future Availability Codes: 3.3 CD = will ship with NEXTSTEP 3.3 3.3 NA = will be available in NeXTanswers on or about the time 3.3 ships Qx 95 = will be available in the listed quarter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptec 154x Family and Compatible EISA/ISA/VLB 1521/1520 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Adaptec 154xB, Adaptec 154xC, Adaptec 154xCF, Adaptec 174xCF (standard 154x mode only), Bus Logic 542B, Bus Logic 747S, Bus Logic 445S (firmware version 3.31 required for all Bus Logic adapters) Adaptec 274x and 284x Family EISA/VLB Beta 1691/1692 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Adaptec 2740, Adaptec 2740T, Adaptec 2840 Adaptec 2940 Family & 7870 Integrated PCI Planned / 3.3 CD Adapters: Adaptec 2940, Adaptec 2940W Systems: DEC EISA/PCI Server Adaptec 6x60 Chipset (Add-On/Integ.) CLB/ISA 1675/1676 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Adaptec AVA-1505A, Adaptec AVA-1510A, Adaptec AVA-1520A, Compaq SCSI Adapter Systems: Compaq Portable 486/M, Compaq Portable 486/C, Intel GX/Pro AMD 53C974 Chipset CLB/PCI Planned / 3.3 NA Systems: Compaq Deskpro XL, HP Vectra XU BusLogic Family EISA/ISA/PCI/VLB 1685/1686 / 3.3 CD Adapters: BusLogic 546C, BusLogic 747C, BusLogic 445C, BusLogic 946C Systems: Canon object.station 41 DPT 2000 Family CLB/EISA/ISA 1625/1626 / 3.3 CD Adapters: DPT 2012B/9x SmartCache Plus, DPT 2021/9x SmartCache III, DPT 2022/9x SmartCache III, DPT 2122/9x SmartCache III, DPT 2122/9xW SmartCache III, DPT 2122/9xDW SmartCache III Systems: NEC Express II P60 NCR 8xx Family CLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95 SCSITape N/A 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:36:30 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> This document has just been added to NeXTanswers as document 1711. Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Revised: November 21, 1994 Disclaimer: This list is intended as a stopgap measure pending the release of the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Hardware Compatibility Guide. It includes the most up-to-date driver availability information possible at the revision date but does not include in-depth information about the drivers. For more information, contact NeXT Technical Support at ask_next@next.com or (800) 955-NEXT. Key: Driver Description PC Bus Supported Current / Future Avail Additional information PC Bus Abbreviations: CLB = Custom LocalBus VLB = VESA LocalBus PCM = PC/MCIA Current Availability Codes: 3.2 CD = ships with NEXTSTEP 3.2 xxxx/xxxx = 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers (driver/readme doc numbers) Beta xxxx/xxxx = beta 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers Future Availability Codes: 3.3 CD = will ship with NEXTSTEP 3.3 3.3 NA = will be available in NeXTanswers on or about the time 3.3 ships Qx 95 = will be available in the listed quarter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beep N/A 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Canon object.station 41 CLB 1689/1690 / 3.3 CD Systems: Canon object.station 41 Compaq Business Audio CLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Systems: Compaq Deskpro/M, Compaq Deskpro/I IntelGXProAudio CLB 1652/1651 / 3.3 CD Systems: Intel GX/Pro Microsoft Sound System ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Adapters: Microsoft Sound System and compatibles Pro Audio Spectrum 16 ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD Adapters: Pro Audio Spectrum, Pro Studio Sound Blaster 16 ISA Planned / 3.3 CD Adapters: Sound Blaster 16 Basic, Sound Blaster 16 Value, Sound Blaster 16 AWE Sound Blaster 8 ISA Beta 1695/1696 / 3.3 CD Adapters: Sound Blaster Basic, Sound Blaster Pro, Sound Blaster Deluxe, Sound Blaster Value
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list Message-ID: <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 03:37:56 GMT Ethan Straffin (estraff@tori.next.com) wrote: : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing". -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3ar2qe$f4c@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <3ar2qe$f4c@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 21 Nov 1994 17:58:46 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3arc7m$ht3@cobber.cord.edu> <3ar2qe$f4c@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Wanted: app like xv for getting image coordinants Date: 21 Nov 1994 18:12:07 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3ard0n$i1r@cobber.cord.edu> References: <3ahod5$i4g@cobber.cord.edu> <3aj9ci$6u5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3aob66$qsc@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <3ar2qe$f4c@cobber.cord.edu> Right after I posted the original request I found that Grab.app accomplished most of what I needed. I just needed the topLeft and bottomRight coordinates of a square area in an image for ISMAP to work. So, to get a mapping of an image that you are going to use as an imagemap, use Grab.app to select the area of the image that you want mapped. You just have to add the pixel size of the grabbed section (ex. 48x48) to the distance that its leftTop corner is from the original (parent) image. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list Message-ID: <1994Nov22.171444.3800@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: uchi.test cabal References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 17:14:44 GMT In article <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>, Marc Salvatori <salvo@eskimo.com> wrote: >Ethan Straffin (estraff@tori.next.com) wrote: >: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >: PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS >: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or >Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing". I'm not either. I've got both a Roland SCC-1, and a Gravis Ultrasound, and I was hoping that I would get support from one of them. Does this mean I need to put my Sound Blaster which I bought 4 years ago into my computer? The damn 8bit thing? That's really, really outdated? I'm not even sure that it is new enough to be supported... Are there any sound drivers avalible from thrid party for the SCC-1 or GUS? -- E. Larry Lidz -- ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Ethernet card recommendation sought Message-ID: <1994Nov22.201910.7388@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 20:19:10 GMT I am planning to buy an ethernet card for NS/IP. It is for a docking station for a laptop. The bus is 16 bit IDA. Anyone care to share recommendations + experience with these cards? How well do the NeXT drivers perform? How about third party drivers? (like Talus). Thanks in advance. Mike -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: djc@vnp.com (Dan Crimmins) Subject: Re: Printer help... In-Reply-To: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org's message of Mon, 21 Nov 1994 20: 30:57 GMT Message-ID: <DJC.94Nov22101513@nwk122_ocachi.vnp.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: VNP Software, Inc. References: <dgursky.785449857@news.andi.org> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 16:15:13 GMT In article <dgursky.785449857@news.andi.org> dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) writes: > I seem to recall that there is a parameter you can set in the Printer > entry in the Netinfo database for a non-NeXT printer that forces the > system to download non-resident fonts. Can anyone tell me what this > is or more about it? [Or am I completely incorrect on this count?] add a property named "_nxfinalform" to the printer's netinfo entry. -- dan crimmins vnp software
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 display driver list Date: 22 Nov 1994 18:17:38 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3atck2$14q@rosie.next.com> References: <3aragu$19f@rosie.next.com> In response to a few questions we've gotten about the driver lists, I should clarify that these lists show NeXT-provided drivers only. In particular, the fact that the display driver list does not include Miro or Elsa drivers does *not* mean that these cards will be unsupported in 3.3, merely that we do not provide those drivers. Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: ivan@mario.fulcrum.sbi.com (Ivan Leung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dual Ethernet Date: 22 Nov 1994 17:10:09 GMT Organization: Salomon Brothers, Inc. Message-ID: <IVAN.94Nov22121009@mario.fulcrum.sbi.com> References: <zrudedog-1711941818300001@rudedog.slip.crl.com> In-reply-to: zrudedog@aol.com's message of Thu, 17 Nov 1994 18:18:30 -0600 In article <zrudedog-1711941818300001@rudedog.slip.crl.com> zrudedog@aol.com (Rich Neiswonger) writes: Is there any availability of multiple network interfaces for Nextstep? Specifically I am look to add a second Ethernet to an Intel machine. I have 2 Ethernet cards installed on my Intel -- one of them being Intel Ether Express and the other 3Com Etherlink III. Configuration was easy, all I had to do was to run Configure.app to add a second interface. In my case, the reason to put 2 Ethernet cards on one host is not to route packets between 2 LANs. The 1st card is tied to our Corporate backbone, which handles NFS, FTP ... network traffic. The 2nd card is connected to a seperate network dedicated to handle broadcast real-time financial market data. NEXTSTEP has been running under this configuration for over 2 months and so far I haven't noticed any problem. -- Ivan Leung -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ivan Leung Fulcrum, BTO, Salomon Brothers ivan@fulcrum.sbi.com
From: lena3@vaxa.mdx.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: COMPUTER GAMING SURVEY Date: 22 Nov 1994 19:02:10 GMT Organization: Middlesex University, London, England Message-ID: <3atf7i$1n2@beta.qmw.ac.uk> Computer Gaming Survey ______________________ ---------------------- Could you please take time to answer our questions about computer games, for a survey we are conducting. Thank you. NB Questions can be answered by either the following format:- 1a, 2e, 3a, ... and so on until completion of question 12. Or Edit it by just marking a *** next to the correct answer for you ie:- 1) Are you? a) ***Male b) Female Details of where to send your answers are given at the end of this file. AND THERE'S MORE ... ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** ****** ****** ************* ***************************** ************* **** **** *** ** * *** *** ** ** ******* * *** *** *** ** ** ** *** ** *** ***** ** ** *** *** ** *** *** *** *** *********** *** *** ** ********* *** ** *** **** *** *** ************ * **** ** ********** *** ** ***** *** *** ********* ***** *** *** *** ** ** ****** *** *** ************** ****** ********* ** *** ** *** ****** **** ************** ****** ********* ** *** ** **** ****** ***** ******* ****** *** **** *** **** ****** ****** ******* ****** *** ****************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** 1) Are you? a) Male b) Female 2) How old are you? a) under 12 b) 12 - 14 c) 15 - 17 d) 18 - 20 e) 21 - 23 f) 24 - 29 g) 30 - 39 h) 40 - 49 i) Over 50 3) Do you have a computer? a) Yes b) No 4) If yes then is it a? a) An IBM compatible PC b) MAC c) Amiga/ST d) Console e) Some other (i.e. 8 bit like com 64) 5) How long have you had your machine? a) Less than 6 months b) 6 months to 1 year c) Between 1 & 2 years d) Between 2 & 4 years e) Between 4 & 6 years e) Over 6 years 6) How long have you been using computers? a) Less than 6 months b) 6 months to 1 year b) Between 1 & 2 years d) Between 2 & 4 years e) Between 4 & 6 years f) Between 6 & 10 years g) Over 10 years 7) If you had another computer previously then was it a? a) An IBM compatible PC b) MAC c) Amiga/ST d) Console e) Some other (i.e. 8 bit like com 64) 8) What types of software do you spend alot of money on? a) Business b) Applications c) Games d) Other 9) Do you like computer games? a) Yes b) No 10) What type of game do you most like to play? a) Role-playing b) Puzzle c) Adventure d) Beat-em-up e) Simulations f) Platform g) Strategy h) Shoot-em-up i) Car Racing j) Sports k) Other 11) How much do you spend on games per year in pounds (dollars)? a) Up to œ30 ($40) b) œ30 ($45) - œ60 ($90) c) œ60 ($90) - œ90 ($135) d) œ90 ($135) - œ120 ($180) e) œ120 ($180) - œ160 ($225) f) œ160 ($225) - œ200 ($300) g) œ200 ($300) - œ400 ($600) h) Over œ400 ($600) 12) Approximately how many games do you purchase per year? a) 0 - 2 b) 3 - 5 c) 6 - 9 d) 10 - 14 e) 15 - 25 f) Over 25 Could you please forward your answers to one of the following addresses:- Cecil@mdx.ac.uk or Antoni1@mdx.ac.uk or Colin7@mdx.ac.uk or Myself:- Lena3@mdx.ac.uk THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HELP IN ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS IN THIS SURVEY FOR OUR PROJECT.
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FAT version of MailCall or other similar app Date: 22 Nov 1994 19:53:16 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ati7c$ke1@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Howdy, Does anybody have a FAT (or intel) version of MailCall? It is a utility that notifies you of incoming mail. The problem with NeXTMail (and the manual button) is that once you read your mail (in a possibly different mail reader) you have to open NeXTMail and hit the retrieve button to get the icon to reset. Any pointers greatly appreciated. - Steve -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu Michigan State University |
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3apadn$s9k@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Control: cancel <3apadn$s9k@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 23 Nov 1994 06:14:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3aumk5$n5g@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> cancel <3apadn$s9k@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.misc -- David Lemson (217) 244-8833 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list Date: 23 Nov 1994 09:42:23 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <3av2pv$2cms@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com> In article <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>, salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes: >I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or >Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing". A Turtle Beach DSP card is already supported by MusicKit. -- who? // Markus Wenzel work? // Navigator - System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting mail? // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Subject: Please Help! SLIP hangs boot Message-ID: <Czp9u7.7o@ants.ci.net> Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd) Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 03:03:42 GMT Hi all, After finding out that PPP won't work on my 3.0 slab, I installed slip (the most recent). Unfortunately, after getting it to load at all (which was a hassle), it now loads at boot, then, while cron is being updated at boot, the following message happens: dialupreq has no active reader at which time it hangs. I moved slip to another directory and it booted up find. This strikes me as an obscure problem. I'd really appreciate any suggestions in getting this running. Thanks in advance. Pax Dei, James --- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate Andover Newton Theological School e-mail:jmeacham@ants.ci.net 7 Flint Road Phone: 617-926-6024 Watertown, MA 02172 NeXTMAIL accepted Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116 (Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730 _____________________________________________________________________ -- _____________________________________________________________________ James David Meacham, 3rd M.Div. Candidate
From: jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem : TeXview Date: 23 Nov 94 09:16:47 Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov2391647@tequila> References: <Czp9u7.7o@ants.ci.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I use 2 gecko and I have the following problem : when I want to preview foo.dvi with included eps files this works fine with the lab gecko; although at home I can't preview included figures : if I hide graphics (in the preference panel of texview) i can see text but I have the following type of message in the console (the unix console) : glenan TeXview[412] %% Error undefined; offending command ewi screen ] %% glenan TeXview [412] client library error Postscript program error , DPScontext 34d60 which repeats. otherwise (no hide graphics) it hangs. any suggestion would *really be appreciated. Jean-FranÛois --- Jean-Francois Boisvieux Departement de Biomathematiques Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere 75013 Paris France jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr (NeXT mail O.K) tel : (33) 1 45 86 19 98 fax : (33) 1 45 83 87 20
From: waldemar.lysz@ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: AFS and NeXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 22 Nov 1994 22:53:10 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <3atsom$ebv@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Is there anybody out there running NeXTSTEP 3.3 with Transarc's AFS 3.2 or 3.3 ? Transarc supports only NeXTSTEP 3.0 login.app, however it has worked fine with NeXTSTEP 3.1 and 3.2 . Any information would be appreciated . -- ============================================================================= Waldemar D. Lysz | University of Alberta waldemar_lysz@ualberta.ca | Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-9306 | System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 | #144 General Services Building | Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1
From: gfs@rice.edu (Geoff Spradley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 24 Nov 1994 01:23:02 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <3b0ptm$8fc@larry.rice.edu> References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com> <3av2pv$2cms@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Markus Wenzel (wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote: : A Turtle Beach DSP card is already supported by MusicKit. Unfortunately, there are no _SoundKit_ drivers for it yet, so you can't play .snd files through it. With the MusicKit you can synthesize sounds (using FM, plucked strings, and a variety of other algorithms) and schedule MIDI events (if you have an MPU401-style card) in real time. --Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff Spradley gfs@rice.edu Computer Consultant, 2243 APB Hall (713)285x5267 voice Shepherd School of Music, Rice University (713)527-6099 fax -------------------------------------------------------------------
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list Date: 23 Nov 1994 09:56:40 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <3avono$iqe@cobber.cord.edu> References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com> In article <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>, Marc Salvatori <salvo@eskimo.com> wrote: >Ethan Straffin (estraff@tori.next.com) wrote: >: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >: PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS >: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or >Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing". Well, there is a driver for the Turtle Beach's 56001 DSP the comes with the MusicKit. I have it loaded right now in anticipation for my card's arrival. The Tahiti, MultiSound Monterey, and MultiSound Classic are supported by this driver. The guys at CCRMA use this card along with the Music Quest MIDI card (driven by the MPU-401 MIDI driver). Too bad the Turtle Beach MultiSounds aren't MPU-401 coz then it could be used for DSP and MIDI. But I did get email from someone working on a MIDI driver for the TurtleBeach. >-- >>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources >< > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan A. Doroin | Project: AT&T's Plan9 on a NeXTStation | | doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD | | doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need help printing from Mac to NeXT over TCP/IP Date: 23 Nov 1994 01:44:47 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3au6qf$be8@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: Macintosh, Mac, print, printing, NeXT, NeXTstep A friend has recently bought a Macintosh 6100 with System 7.5, to complement his NeXTstation. I told him that I thought there was an easy way to print to his NeXT printer from the Macintosh, but I couldn't remember what was involved. Sharing the printer shouldn't be a problem, and I'm sure we could get TCP/IP going, but how would we make the NeXT printer show up in the Chooser? Does this require commercial software? Thanks. (While I'm at it, does System 7.5 also have NFS: could he remotely mount his NeXT drive on the Mac, or does he need other software? Thanks.) -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: kitana!sysop@caprica.com (JL Gomez) Newsgroups: comp.lang.objective-c,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT/Objective C book recommendations? Date: 23 Nov 1994 22:01:08 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <m0rAUx5-001O5yC@kitana> Can anyone else recommend anymore NeXT/Objective C books to add to my library? This is preparation for NSi 3.3. :) I've got the following books: OOP & The Objective C Language, NeXT Computer Inc. NeXTSTEP Programming: Concepts and Applications, Alex Ngiem OOP: AN Evolutionary Approach, Cox & Novobilski The Complete Guide to the NeXTSTEP Environment, Michael Shebanek NeXTSTEP Programming Step One: O-O Applications, Garfinkel & Mahoney -- sysop@kitana.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Printer Help... Message-ID: <dgursky.785608037@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 16:27:17 GMT I seem to recall that there is a parameter you can set in the Printer entry in the Netinfo database for a non-NeXT printer that forces the system to download non-resident fonts. Can anyone tell me what this is or more about it? [Or am I completely incorrect on this count?] -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Quality Systems, Incorporated e-mail: ..... ddg@qsi.com 4000 Legato Road voice: .. (703) 352-9200 Fairfax, VA 22033 fax: .. (703) 352-9216
From: bfreeto@interaccess.com (Bill Freeto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installation problems on Gateway Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 21:02:31 Organization: InterAccess,Chicagoland's Full Service Internet Provider Message-ID: <bfreeto.72.00150B03@interaccess.com> Summary: Have been unable to install Keywords: NeXTstep install Gateway I have been trying in vain to install 3.2 on my system. The problem has to do with my SCSI controller. I have a Gateway2000 486DX/66 with a DPT 2021 controller (really a 2012 w/cache and a Plexor external drive. Most of the time, the install program claims that it doesn't have a driver for the controller even though it lists the driver as being on the disk. Once, it actually loaded the driver but then claimed that it couldn't find the drive. I'm really baffled since msdos finds the controller and the drive with no prob. Has anybody run into this problem? Thanx, Bill
From: bonnetf@esiee.fr (Frank Bonnet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NFS troubles between NextStep HPPA and HPUX server. Date: 24 Nov 1994 10:40:03 +0100 Organization: Groupe ESIEE - PARIS Message-ID: <3b1n1j$ckp@bart.esiee.fr> Keywords: NFS We have troubles here with a HP712 workstation running under NextStep and file-server running under HPUX 9.04/9.05. I've both tried with a fileserver HP816/9.04 and HP735/9.05 the results are the same. The trouble is that it takes a loooong time to write files onto the nfs mounted disk. The NextStep 712 use the automounter daemon, if it help. Any helps/clues/patches-numbers welcome ! Please reply by email if possible. -- Frank Bonnet > In your <.signature> you wrote : bonnetf@esiee.fr > http://www.esiee.fr > -- Stuff deleted ...
From: patel@fairway.ecn.purdue.edu (Umesh H Patel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.0 vs NeXTSTEP 3.3 Date: 23 Nov 1994 19:24:27 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Message-ID: <3b04tb$rtq@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I haven't been keeping up with the latest developments at NeXT. I am currently running version 3.0 on a cube. For what I am doing, I'm not having any problems with 3.0. Can anybody tell me what might be the advantages of having 3.3 over 3.0? Will there be any disadvantages? I currently use Framemaker extensively. Will it be compatible with 3.3? Thanks, Umesh Patel patel@ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: qtge@oce-rd2.oce.nl (Tinus Geertsma 2957) Subject: Windows ICONS into NeXT Message-ID: <Czpp3M.1o0@oce.nl> Sender: news@oce.nl (The Daily News @ nntp01.oce.nl) Organization: Oce Nederland B.V. Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 08:33:22 GMT >Hi there: Hi Teele, >I would like to convert some icons from a windows icon CD into a NeXT >usable icon file. Hmmmm...why do you want to do that? I think NeXT-icons are *much* nicer :-) Windows icons also use only 16 colors. >Does anybody know a public domain program to do the >trick (the windows icons are in .ico format) If you can manage to put the .ico file in .tiff format....you're done. CIAO..... Tinus
From: ramin@ping.at (Ramin Darakhschani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXT INC. stock quotes ? Date: 24 Nov 1994 20:17:10 GMT Organization: home Distribution: world Message-ID: <3b2sc6$nuo@pong.ping.at> I looked at a bloomberg terminal at a clients place ( a bank) in their stock trading division. Although i was able to find the name (Next Computer Inc.) there was no kind of information about the company. Can anybody tell me something about this, and where i will find the info on about NEXT's stocks, provided there is any info/stocks available ? Reuters page will also do. Thanks in advance, Ramin ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: NEXT INC. stock quotes ? Message-ID: <CzsJyp.Jxu@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <3b2sc6$nuo@pong.ping.at> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 21:35:13 GMT Ramin Darakhschani (ramin@ping.at) wrote: : I looked at a bloomberg terminal at a clients place ( a bank) : in their stock trading division. : Although i was able to find the name (Next Computer Inc.) there : was no kind of information about the company. : Can anybody tell me something about this, and where i will find : the info on about NEXT's stocks, provided there is any info/stocks : available ? You're not going to find anything- NeXT is a privately held company, and thus doesn't have to tell anyone anything. They've been threatening to become public for years, but nothing yet...... later j
From: mike_ferris@next.com (Mike Ferris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hebrew support in NeXTStep? Date: 23 Nov 1994 01:40:02 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3au6hi$200@rosie.next.com> References: <3agr5h$ng8$1@heifetz.msen.com> wright@LAA.COM writes >NextStep 3.3 is providing support for the 16 bit character system >devise to handle all characters sets in the world, including Hebrew >and Arabic. I forget the systems name. Might this help you with your >needs in Israel? Umm... You may be thinking of a version after 3.3. The character-set you refer to is called Unicode. Unicode is the basis for Next's new NSString objects, but NSString objects have little to do with displaying/editing text on the screen. NSString is part of the new Foundation classes which EOF uses. A new text system which will come later and be based on NSStrings will handle the displaying/editing aspects of unicode international text. However, don't expect full support for all the languages of the world right out of the box either. mike_ferris@next.com
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 22:35:45 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <941124223545.319AACUp.malc@white> References: <3a8igtINNaeo@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <CzBu2w.2nv@eskimo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII : I'm looking for folks who have had exposure to the "Tailor" software under : NEXTSTEP for editing PostScript files - : impressions of its uses and functionality are primarily what I'm trying to : get. : It's absoultely excellent. The two main uses for *me* so far don't sound like very much, but they've saved a *lot* of effort: extracting text from a PS document, extracting pictures from a PS document. The second sounds deceptively simple... but think about it. I have a number of diagrams I've drawn in FrameMaker, which I want to use in PasteUp and Concurrence. Before Tailor I would have to (a) redraw them; (b) remove all the surrounding text etc., save the page as a .ps file, and hand-edit the PostScript to get out the figure (yes, I did this!); or (c) just use FrameMaker suboptimally. Now I can simply produce the relevant page as PostScript, load it into Tailor, select the figure, and save it directly as an eps file, all in a matter of minutes. This means that suddenly all my old files are doubly useful, and in fact all my applications become drawing tools. This is just for my own files -- now when others send me PostScript, or even anything that I can convert to PostScript, I can quickly and easily extract any relevant text or diagrams; very useful indeed in a host of situations. IMHO it's paid for itself in its first week. Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: Iconbuilder Message-ID: <1994Nov25.011908.7540@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 01:19:08 GMT Sorry if this is an obvious question somehow, but has anyone actually created new tools for Iconbuilder that one can load? I know there's an item in the Tools menu which looks like it should be able to load other tools, but I've never heard of the api such a tool must use, or of anyone actually distributing one. David john burrowes
From: x90adams73@wmich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installing 3.0 on optical disk Question Message-ID: <1994Nov23.134128.24294@wmichgw> Date: 23 Nov 94 13:41:28 EDT Organization: Western Michigan University I'm working with an old NeXT cube with an 040 with a SCSI hard drive, SCSI CD ROM, SCSI floppy, and an optical drive. With the 3.0 install CD, how would I create a bootable optical disk with just the essentials on it? I tried going through the installation procedure, substituting od0a for sd0a, which does copy the essentials to the optical disk, but during the boot procedure (from the optical disk), it fails. Thanks, John
From: jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Date: 25 Nov 94 09:59:01 Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov259591@tequila> References: <3a8igtINNaeo@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <CzBu2w.2nv@eskimo.com> <941124223545.319AACUp.malc@white> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Malcom Crawford writes ->Iit's absoultely excellent. ->it's paid for itself in its first week. and I just agree Jean-FranÛois --- Jean-Francois Boisvieux Departement de Biomathematiques Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere 75013 Paris France jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr (NeXT mail O.K) tel : (33) 1 45 86 19 98 fax : (33) 1 45 83 87 20
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: ingo@ipge.toppoint.de (Ingo Prochaska) Subject: Re: NFS troubles between NextStep HPPA and HPUX server. Message-ID: <1994Nov25.110053.13816@ipge.toppoint.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: Private Site, Kiel, Germany References: <3b1n1j$ckp@bart.esiee.fr> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 11:00:53 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Frank Bonnet (bonnetf@esiee.fr) wrote: > We have troubles here with a HP712 workstation running under > NextStep and file-server running under HPUX 9.04/9.05. > I've both tried with a fileserver HP816/9.04 and HP735/9.05 > the results are the same. > The trouble is that it takes a loooong time to write files > onto the nfs mounted disk. I'm using an Intel-PC with NeXTStep. The Next exports directorys to a Linuxbox. Zhe behavior is the same: Reading the NFS-directorys on the Linuxbox is fast, writing to them, or reading a directory exported by the Linuxbox to the NeXTStep-machine takes very, very long (about 20 kb/s). Same with ftp: NeXT -> Linux ca. 300 kb/s; Linux -> NeXT ca. 20 kb/s. If I do a netstat -i, it looks like that: ingo@ipge:~$ netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll lo0 1536 loopback localhost 26375 0 26375 0 0 en0 1500 next-defaul ipge 279306 0 258157 0 0 en0* 1500 none none 279306 16 258156 0 0 ÃÃthis count increases dramaticly, when I try to write to the NeXTStep; either NFS or FTP ipge's configuration: 486-40DX-VLB 24 MB Ram ATI GUP (Mach32) VLP AHA 2842 VLB 3COM Etherlink III (3C509-COMBO) Ingo -- Ingo Prochaska, Olshausenstr. 20, 24118 Kiel, +049 431 84638
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ingo@ipge.toppoint.de (Ingo Prochaska) Subject: Re: Printer Help... Message-ID: <1994Nov25.110627.13933@ipge.toppoint.de> Organization: Private Site, Kiel, Germany References: <dgursky.785608037@news.andi.org> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 11:06:27 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Gursky (dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org) wrote: > I seem to recall that there is a parameter you can set in the Printer > entry in the Netinfo database for a non-NeXT printer that forces the > system to download non-resident fonts. Can anyone tell me what this > is or more about it? [Or am I completely incorrect on this count?] Just add the property _nxfinalform to the printer in the NetInfoManager.app. Ingo -- Ingo Prochaska, Olshausenstr. 20, 24118 Kiel, +049 431 84638
From: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: seeking opinions on "Tailor" PostScript editor Message-ID: <855@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> Date: 25 Nov 94 18:11:24 GMT References: <941124223545.319AACUp.malc@white> Sender: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Maartensdijk, The Netherlands In article <941124223545.319AACUp.malc@white> malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford) writes: > : I'm looking for folks who have had exposure to the "Tailor" software > : under > : NEXTSTEP for editing PostScript files - > : impressions of its uses and functionality are primarily what I'm > : trying to get. > : > It's absoultely excellent. [ ... reasons deleted ... ] I think the words are: insanely great :-) I've no use for this program, but I love to run it in demo mode and get (knowledgeable) people stunned. E.g. we have those nice weather charts (contour plots). Producing them is a pain, because the plotting software was written back in the 70's, in a sort of Fortran 66. It produces a G(raphics) K(ernel) S(ystem) meta-file that's full of 'draw a line from x to y' type of 'instructions'. One of my coworkers wrote a program to convert that to PostScript. Guess what: if I read the resulting PostScript file into Tailor, I can move coast-lines, borders, contour lines, labels, etc. freely around. It knows how to group a contour line that itself is composed of scores of little straight line segments and it's all amazingly fast. Writing a PostScript interpreter doesn't seem easy to me, but this borders on magic ... Hope these guys make a fortune out of it. -- Toon Moene (toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl) Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands Phone: +31 3461 4290; Fax: +31 3461 4286 No Disclaimer: I claim, therefore I am.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc From: rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis) Subject: WTB: NeXT 2.88 SCSI floppy drive Message-ID: <1994Nov25.171920.12142@sq.sq.com> Followup-To: poster Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada Date: Fri, 25 Nov 94 17:19:20 GMT Sez it all, really....this is all I need to complete my Cube and finish bankrupting myself. :-) If there's anyone in the Toronto area who's willing to lend me one for a few days, that would be appreciated - my pressing need is to install NS 3.2 on my floppy-less Cube. If anyone knows of any other external floppy drives that work with a Cube, please tell me about 'em. --Rick. -- Rick Innis SoftQuad Inc. "Have you seen the secret of the Universe?" said rick.innis@sq.com Zebedee, arriving. "I know I left it here somewhere." +1 (416) 239 4801 x251
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT 2.88 SCSI floppy drive Date: 26 Nov 1994 03:28:43 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <ERNEST.94Nov25192843@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> References: <1994Nov25.171920.12142@sq.sq.com> In-reply-to: rick@sq.sq.com's message of Fri, 25 Nov 94 17:19:20 GMT Just thought I'd share this. As you all know, there are only two drive bays on the original cube, for a full-height optical drive and a full-height SCSI hard drive. However, it is often much cheaper to get an internal floppy drive rather than an external one. And the NeXT Cube motherboard (at least the '040 non-turbo version) has a connector for a floppy which can provide power for it. However, internal floppy drives are rather exposed, and tend to have short cables. So, I got a great deal on a floppy drive from Pixelated technology, not realizing it was an internal drive. But, Rohit and I figured we'd try it anyway. After discovering that lack of drive bays, we realized there was only one other place to stick a drive: the expansion slot. After all, there are three empty slots, and only two cards ever made. So, we shoved a bunch of padding in the opposite side, strung the cable behind the fan, and started her up. We put the floppy in with the slot vertical, so it stuck out through the expansion card slot. At first it didn't work vertically, so we tried turning the cube on its side! It actually worked the, but then the optical didn't. Rohit suggested mounting the cube at 28 degrees, but I wasn't that crazy. Eventually we realized the drive motor was rubbing against the side of the bay, and put a cardboard spacer in ehind it. After that, it "just worked." So anyway, there's more than one way to drive a floppy with a cube. -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar, President, NEXTSTEP/OpenStep User Groups Intnl. http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b "I speak for myself, and sometimes 'nugi', but almost never Caltech."
From: Gerd Gueldenpfennig Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NFS troubles between NextStep HPPA and HPUX server. Date: 25 Nov 1994 17:59:33 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <3b58m5$1ko@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <1994Nov25.110053.13816@ipge.toppoint.de> Ingo Prochaska writes > > Reading the NFS-directorys on the Linuxbox is fast, writing to them, > or reading a directory exported by the Linuxbox to the > NeXTStep-machine takes very, very long (about 20 kb/s). .. > 3COM Etherlink III (3C509-COMBO) > Here we are ! The 3COM ist the worst choice for an Ethernet Card. They are slow under NEXTSTEP and causes system crashes under SCO. Throw it away as fas as you can ! Use ISA Intel EtherExpress or EISA/PCI Cogent. --- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + QMSprint - Network Printing for NEXTSTEP + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list Date: 22 Nov 1994 15:06:40 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <3atti0$omv@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com> Marc Salvatori writes: >Ethan Straffin (estraff@tori.next.com) wrote: >: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >: PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS >: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or >Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing". You'd be pretty silly to buy a $400 sound card to work with NEXTSTEP's sound, since all NEXTSTEP does is blat 16-bit samples, and a SB-16 can do this as well as a Roland. On the other hand, if you want to use MusicKit, the Turtle Beach card is supported now. -Wil
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Any NeXTSTEP advocates at Colorado State Univ.? Date: 26 Nov 1994 14:27:21 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <3b7gk9$pel@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi - I tried with no success to stick a "Distribution: local" line in the header. Just wondering who else locally is actively interested in the NeXTSTEP environment? Drop me a line; I'd like to hear from you. Rich
From: kaoki@yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Faster mouse speeds? (MouseScaling) Date: 26 Nov 1994 16:34:22 GMT Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan. Distribution: comp Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Nov27013423@hp02.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Dear fellow NeXT afficianados, I am running NS3.2 on a NSTC. How do you adjust the mouse parameters beyond the 4 choices in particular given by Preferences.app? There is a NeXT1 MouseScaling dwrite which has the following 4 settings corresponding to the 4 choices in Preferences.app, fastest at the top. 5 2 2 3 6 4 10 5 15 6 22 5 2 2 3 4 4 6 5 8 6 10 5 1 1 6 2 7 3 8 5 9 7 1 1 1 There are 11 parameters. Does anybody know what each parameter means? I looked around in DL, but couldn't find the relevant entry. Also in the FAQ and in Nextanswers. Sorry if this is a RTFM question. I followed the general trend and increased and decreased some params by 30 % or so and the mouse feels faster. However, this is not exactly systematic. Thanks for any info. -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN ... posting from kyoto....
From: mcomerfo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael C Comerford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need to know disk space taken by NS Date: 26 Nov 1994 20:51:18 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3b8746$igg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Does anyone know the actual space, in MB, taken by NEXTSTEP user + developer? Is there a document detailing this, i.e., specifying what packages use what, so I can consider keeping part of the system on the CDROM, to save space? Thanks mike c. ============================================================================== mike comerford comerford.1@osu.edu dept. of geological sciences (614) 292-1987 ohio state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list Message-ID: <CzwB6J.1Iv@eskimo.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com> <3avono$iqe@cobber.cord.edu> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 22:15:49 GMT Wil Shipley (wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com) wrote: : You'd be pretty silly to buy a $400 sound card to work with NEXTSTEP's sound, : since all NEXTSTEP does is blat 16-bit samples, and a SB-16 can do : this as well as a Roland. : : On the other hand, if you want to use MusicKit, the Turtle Beach card : is supported now. MIDI is my primary interest; sound is a secondary interest. I'd like NS to have both. For MIDI, my preference is Roland, but I could settle for Turtle Beach if I had to. Jon Doroin (doroin@cobber.cord.edu) wrote: : Well, there is a driver for the Turtle Beach's 56001 DSP the comes with : the MusicKit. I have it loaded right now in anticipation for my card's : arrival. The Tahiti, MultiSound Monterey, and MultiSound Classic are : supported by this driver. The guys at CCRMA use this card along with the : Music Quest MIDI card (driven by the MPU-401 MIDI driver). Too bad the : Turtle Beach MultiSounds aren't MPU-401 coz then it could be used for DSP and : MIDI. But I did get email from someone working on a MIDI driver for the : TurtleBeach. I'll be reading up on this MusicKit, now that I just acquired it from Stanford. I sense it is more than just a collection of drivers; that it is a developers tool kit. Then there is the matter of finding application software such as sequencers. . . . Geoff Spradley (gfs@rice.edu) wrote: : Unfortunately, there are no _SoundKit_ drivers for it yet, so : you can't play .snd files through it. With the MusicKit you : can synthesize sounds (using FM, plucked strings, and a : variety of other algorithms) and schedule MIDI events (if : you have an MPU401-style card) in real time. Even with 3.3, it looks as if separate hardware must be acquired to enjoy both MIDI and sound. Am I missing something here, or is it fair to conclude that NeXTStep is anything but multi-media complete due to its weak audio support? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: >< >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: root@via-annex4-7.cl.msu.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need to know disk space taken by NS Date: 26 Nov 1994 23:04:49 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3b8euh$vfs@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <3b8746$igg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Michael C Comerford writes & Does anyone know the actual space, in MB, taken by NEXTSTEP user + &developer? Is there a document detailing this, i.e., specifying what packages &use what, so I can consider keeping part of the system on the CDROM, to save &space? I think EVERYTHING (user/dev NS3.2) takes approximately 330M give or take 10M. And this includes literature, SOFTPC or is that SOFTWIN (shows how much is use this app). Randy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Recommendations on SCSI Tape Units? Message-ID: <CzxC9I.1ot@tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 11:36:54 GMT Looking for recommendations on SCSI Tape units for an Intel developer workstation...what are some of the commonly used units out there in NEXTSTEP land? I've seen some stuff in the archives for the Viper tape unit...anybody have info on this thing? Others? Thanks! Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net have encountered the > > > above situation and also discovered that this will happen after > > > the FIRST time you bring up a PNI link... > > > > > > 1) Is there any way to "fix" this (gee...would be nice to add > > > a printer or new user accounts after I've run PNI!!) > > > > > > Damon F. Cooper > > > damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net > > > > What this means is that netinfo thinks that you're talking to a > > clone database, which, by definition is read-only. > > > > What you should check: > [suggestions skipped over] > > If I remember my email right, it turned out that the problem happens > after the PNI link is *down*, not after it is *up*. The problem is > that the version of PNI that Damon is running leaves the ethernet > interface up after disconnecting the link. This also produces > "netinfo sleeping" messages on the console. > > The trick is to use the ifconfig command to bring the SLIP interface > down after PNI has dropped the connection. > This is probably true, but the problem does stem from NetInfo thinking that the machine is a clone server (whenever I try to make any NetInfo changes I'm told so in no uncertain terms). Ok, so according to the SysAdmin bookshelf, NetInfo thinks it's a clone server if "...the configured Internet address of the machine is not the same as that of the master server (identified in the master property of the NetInfo directory / )..." - Chapter 15, SysAdmin Here's my /etc/hostconfig: ------------------- HOSTNAME=damonc INETADDR=-AUTOMATIC- ROUTER=-NO- IPNETMASK= IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC- NETMASTER=-YES- YPDOMAIN=tor.hookup.net TIME=-AUTOMATIC- ------------------- and here's a dump of pertinent netinfo info: ------------------- master = localhost/local; CHILDREN = ({ name = machines; CHILDREN = ({ name = (localhost, damonc); ip_address = 165.154.11.65; netgroups = (); serves = ./local; system_type = Unknown; }, { name = broadcasthost; ip_address = 255.255.255.255; }); }, { name = localconfig; CHILDREN = ({ name = ISDN; _writers = "*"; }, { name = keyboard; keymap = /NextLibrary/Keyboards/USA; }, { name = language; language = English; }, { name = screens; _writers = "*"; CHILDREN = { name = MegaPixel; _writers = "*"; active = 0; bounds = "0 1120 0 832"; slot = 0; unit = 0; }; }); }, { [ users, groups deleted... ] name = networks; CHILDREN = ({ name = (loopback, "loopback-net", "software-loopback-net"); address = 127; }, { name = ("next-default", NeXTether, ethernet, localnet); address = 192.42.172; }, { name = (arpanet, arpa); address = 10; }, { name = ("ucb-ether", ucbether); address = 46; }); }, { [ protocols, rpc's, services, printers, removed... ] }; }); ------------------- I do notice on boot that lno0 IP is set to 127.0.0.1, probably because of the -AUTOMATIC- in the IPADDRESS field of the hostconfig above? If I hard wire the address in the hostconfig, though, the machine sits at "mounting remote file systems..." at boot up and (when ^C 'd) it does start up, everything in NetInfo is *still* read-only... I'm stumped!! Anybody been "here and done this"? Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: Does NXApp continue? Message-ID: <1994Nov26.205548.3266@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 20:55:48 GMT I just made a foray to ftp.next.com, and found that the same two old isssues of NXApp were there that had been there 6 months or more ago (spring and winter '94). Is the journal no longer being published? Or has NeXT stopped putting new issues there? thanks for any news or gossip. =) david john burrowes
From: todd@ticonderoga.alembic.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IRC Client for NeXTStep Date: 27 Nov 94 02:00:06 Organization: Colorado Supernet Distribution: fj Message-ID: <todd.94Nov27206@ticonderoga> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Does Anyone know where I might find an IRC Client and possibly an IRC Server for NeXTStep. I have an IRC II Version 2.6 for generic UNIX, but it is a strictly BSD program, and it bombs out when compiling because the stdlib.h which is in /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi is not acceptable for a strictly BSD program.... any suggestions where I can find an actual NeXTStep Client and Server or does anyone have the answer as to how to get a version of stdlib.h which doesn't cause the compile to bomb out wh en compiled with the CC -bsd flag? Thanks..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Need macro lIke capability for word processing Message-ID: <CzyGFK.DMK@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <1994Nov16.190729.2506@weston.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 02:04:31 GMT Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote: : Basically, I need the ability to store strings of text that can be entered : during transcription. : This could be a multiple pasteboard type of deal. But, the real need : would be to be able to attach a key sequence to each string of characters. It's been a while since I spoke to MetroSoft about it, but they were working on MetroKeys, a program for creating application-specific or global macros that would do all sorts of things. (ASCII/RTF insert, execute commands, play sounds, playback key and mouse events, etc...) Find out via email to info@metrosoft.com It was scheduled for Q3'94 release on Intel, Moto, HP. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you."
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXT INC. stock quotes ? Date: 28 Nov 1994 03:44:16 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3bbjmg$3bk@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <CzsJyp.Jxu@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <CzsJyp.Jxu@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright) writes: > You're not going to find anything- NeXT is a privately held company, and thus > doesn't have to tell anyone anything. They've been threatening to become > public for years, but nothing yet...... I personally hope they never become public - stockholders care about nothing but short term profit. NeXT may have problems now, but if they were public, they would have disappeared a long time ago, and I doubt seriously the products would have been as good. (Long shot, Jason - I don't suppose you ever lived in Oxford, Alabama?) -- andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area) 12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034 (NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here) I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXT INC. stock quotes ? Date: 28 Nov 1994 12:18:47 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <3bchr7$247@news.blkbox.com> References: <CzsJyp.Jxu@cunews.carleton.ca> In article <CzsJyp.Jxu@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright) writes: > Ramin Darakhschani (ramin@ping.at) wrote: > : I looked at a bloomberg terminal at a clients place ( a bank) > : in their stock trading division. > > : Although i was able to find the name (Next Computer Inc.) there > : was no kind of information about the company. > > : Can anybody tell me something about this, and where i will find > : the info on about NEXT's stocks, provided there is any info/stocks > : available ? > > You're not going to find anything- NeXT is a privately held company, and thus > doesn't have to tell anyone anything. They've been threatening to become > public for years, but nothing yet...... In order for NeXT to go public, they'd need to put together a couple of profitable quarters. Since they've had a tough time doing this, the chances for a public offering are slim and none at the moment. Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: flog@open.ch Subject: Support for Epson Stylus Color? Message-ID: <CzzBs5.H0q@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 13:21:40 GMT Does DOTS other commercial or public packages support the Epson Stylus color printer? Thanks -Florian
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: UK NeXT Users: Help! Date: 28 Nov 1994 14:36:05 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <3bcpsl$clr@adam.cc.sunysb.edu> Hi. I am trying to contact NeXT(Step) Users in the UK, ideally in Oxford, but London is okay too. The situation is this: -We want to arrange a software demo for reps from Basil Blackwell publishers. -It turns out that no one in the Blackwell publishing empire (or at least no one relevant to publishing decisions) has access to a NeXT (I know, I know...) -We need help from someone in Oxford or London who would be willing to: (a) temporarily load our software onto their machine, (b) let the Blackwell folks have a look at their screen while its running. If you can help us out we would be mightily grateful. Our program, SYNTACTICA, runs under both black and white hardware; we can mail you a copy on disk or let you ftp it. If you can help us out, please let me know as soon as possible. We'll arrange the software transfer and hook you up with the folks at Blackwell. -Richard Larson <rlarson@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu>
From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXT INC. stock quotes ? Date: 28 Nov 1994 19:22:15 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bdal7$hme@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <3bchr7$247@news.blkbox.com> Steve Sarich III writes > In order for NeXT to go public, they'd need to put together a > couple of profitable quarters. Since they've had a tough time > doing this, the chances for a public offering are slim and none > at the moment. > > Steve Really? From what I've heard from various sources (primarily Darren Smith) NeXT has been (will be) profitable every quarter of 1994. This was probably correlated with some of the severe cost-cutting they were doing (in which direction, I don't know). The phrase "every quarter of 1994" makes it sound like they were going for four in a row, implying an IPO in early 1995. Admittedly, that is all hearsay, do you have harder numbers? -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar, President, NEXTSTEP/OpenStep User Groups Intnl. http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest NeXTMail:ernest@caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b "I speak for myself, and sometimes 'nugi', but almost never Caltech."
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FlexFax Date: 28 Nov 1994 20:18:14 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bddu6$jdl@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, has anyone tried (and succeeded??) to use a FlexFax FAX server on some other machine (here it is a SUN WS) for a NeXT? I would like to use the nice fax features of my next (just click FAX on the print panel) but the faxmodem in our group is attached to a SUN and managed by FLEXFAX. Any ideas how to proceed? Thanks, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562---------------------------------------------- Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group
From: raj@cup.hp.com (Rick Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NFS troubles between NextStep HPPA and HPUX server. Followup-To: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 28 Nov 1994 18:26:10 GMT Organization: the Unofficial Hewlett-Packard Message-ID: <3bd7c2$2ei@hpindda.cup.hp.com> References: <1994Nov25.110053.13816@ipge.toppoint.de> <3b58m5$1ko@balu.ixpoint.de> GerdGueldenpfennig wrote: : Ingo Prochaska writes : > Reading the NFS-directorys on the Linuxbox is fast, writing to them, : > or reading a directory exported by the Linuxbox to the : > NeXTStep-machine takes very, very long (about 20 kb/s). : > 3COM Etherlink III (3C509-COMBO) : > : Here we are ! The 3COM ist the worst choice for an Ethernet Card. They are Before the babies get thrown-out with the bathwater, check the NFSstatistics on your clients. Check for NFS retransmissions. If there are no NFS retransmissions, it might not be the cards (though one might hit their limits later) In general, writing to an NFS mounted filesystem will be much slower than reading from it. The reason is that writes are required to go to "stable storage" before a reply can be sent. On stock HP-UX, this means synchronous disk IO. This can be especially bad with PC clients and any other client without biod's. To speed things up, you can consider using the -async option on your HP-UX server. Read the exports(4) manpage first. If you are uncomfortable with what async does, I have heard that Netstream is offering their eNFS NFS accelerator for the HP platform these days. I believe that they can be reached at netstream.com. rick jones speaking only as my self, and endorsing nothing...
From: ccloskey@next.com (Cynthia Closkey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Does NXApp continue? Date: 28 Nov 1994 20:48:39 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bdfn7$p2@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Nov26.205548.3266@kira.net.netcom.com> In article <1994Nov26.205548.3266@kira.net.netcom.com> netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) writes: > I just made a foray to ftp.next.com, and found that the same two old isssues > of NXApp were there that had been there 6 months or more ago (spring and > winter '94). Is the journal no longer being published? Or has NeXT stopped > putting new issues there? > > thanks for any news or gossip. =) > > david john burrowes Both *NXApp* and *NEXTSTEP In Focus* are still alive and well...just behind schedule. We're putting together double issues of both journals. (That is, there'll be a double issue of *NXApp* and another one of *NEXTSTEP In Focus*.) Once we send the printed copies to subscribers, we'll put the last issues on NeXTanswers for everyone's benefit. We had hoped to have *NEXTSTEP In Focus*, the system administration journal, in subscribers hands this week, but unfortunately won't have it finished for a little longer. (We've been spending so much time on the upcoming release of NEXTSTEP 3.3!) Similarly, we'd hoped to have *NXApp*, the developer journal, out before the year's end. We won't make that date, but promise to get it to you as soon as we can. Rest assured that subscribers will receive their full subscriptions' worth, four issues each. I'll post announcements to comp.sys.next.announce as each issue is released. We're very sorry for the extended delay--we hope you'll feel these special double issues are well worth the wait. By the way, if you'd like to know more about these journals from NeXT, I'll append a brief description to this message. Subscription forms are available from NeXTanswers, or you can call 1-800-848-6397 for more information. Thanks. --Cynthia Closkey Editor, NXApp and NEXTSTEP In Focus NeXT publishes two quarterly technical journals: "NEXTSTEP In Focus" and "NXApp." "NEXTSTEP In Focus -Support Bulletin for Users and System Administrators" provides timely technical information to system and network administrators, to help you better support your network or user community and to let you make the most of NEXTSTEP. It's also intended for users who are interested in more technical details about system configuration and operation. "NXApp--NEXTSTEP Developer Journal" provides timely technical information for programmers who develop applications for NEXTSTEP. It addresses a variety of NEXTSTEP development topics: high-level overviews of the kit architectures and guidance in their intended use; details about particular kits and tools; object-oriented application design and user interface design; compliance with NEXTSTEP interface guidelines; tips on marketing NEXTSTEP products; programming tools and resources available from NeXT and elsewhere. A yearly subscription to "NXApp" costs $150 per year, or $200 outside the U.S. A subscription to "NEXTSTEP In Focus" costs $100, or $150 outside of the U.S. Members of the Registered Developer and Registered Consultant programs receive a subscription to each journal yearly with their program membership. Sites that have Premium System Support receive two subscriptions to "NEXTSTEP In Focus" yearly, while sites that have Premium Developer Support receive two subscriptions to "NXApp" yearly. In addition, an on-line version of each issue is available through the NeXTanswers information system approximately three months after the issue is sent to subscribers. To find out how to use NeXTanswers, send electronic mail to nextanswers@next.com; include the keywords "help" and "index" in your mail. Or call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone to use NeXTanswers by fax. To subscribe to either journal or inquire about subscriptions, please call 1-800-848-NeXT. (Outside the U.S., please call +1-415-424-8500 or contact your nearest NeXT representative.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Subject: signature in NewsGrazer (Release 2.0, v72.3) Message-ID: <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com> Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc. Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 07:43:34 GMT Can someone tell me how to stop NewsGrazer from inserting my signature 2 times? I have a .signature file (ASCII text) in my home dir. When I have the "Ignore .sig file" preference on, it only inserts part of my signature when I post (eg, look at the incomplete signature repeated at the end of this message). If I leave the "Ignore .sig file" preference off, it inserts my full signature AND an incomplete copy of my signature. Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!) PGP key available on request. -- Dino Bagdadi Blackmaus Design dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook) Subject: Re: Need to know disk space taken by NS Message-ID: <D00A1C.5rA@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <3b8746$igg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 01:41:35 GMT Michael C Comerford writes > Does anyone know the actual space, in MB, taken by NEXTSTEP user + >developer? Is there a document detailing this, i.e., specifying what packages >use what, so I can consider keeping part of the system on the CDROM, to save >space? Certainly Developer is easy, since it comes as Install packages. Here's what Installer.app reports (MB when installed) from my 3.2 system for Motorola: DeveloperDoc 31.2 DeveloperLibs 16.5 DeveloperTools 22.9 -- Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
From: byoung@iquest.com (H. Bret Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Support for Epson Stylus Color? Date: 29 Nov 1994 02:00:21 GMT Organization: interQuest -- Fuel for the Mind Distribution: world Message-ID: <3be1vl$aoh@polo.iquest.com> References: <CzzBs5.H0q@eunet.ch> flog@open.ch writes > Does DOTS other commercial or public packages support the Epson Stylus > color printer? > > Thanks > > -Florian You beat me to it. I was about to ask the same question and so I obviously would like someone to post a response. I was all set to get a HP560C and use the ghostHPDJ driver when a friend showed me an output from the Epson. So, is there a way to use some kind of ghostscript solution for the Epson Stylus Color? Thanks, Bret Young byoung@iquest.com
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: signature in NewsGrazer (Release 2.0, v72.3) Date: 28 Nov 1994 22:56:00 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411290455.AA14423@alleg.EDU> [possible, untested workaround] Keep your .sig to just four lines and see if that helps. Don't bother with a line that is just '--' and a return. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu (Shell=tcsh) Workstation Environment using NeXTSTEP 3.2 m68k No Root access, no super-user access NeXTMail, MIME OK finger for public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: g8udgl@fnma.com (David G. Lewis) Subject: SUMMARY: NeXT CM Tools -- DevMan and Aide-de-Camp Message-ID: <1994Nov29.040045.22568@almserv.uucp> Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp Organization: Fannie Mae Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 04:00:45 GMT Hi Everyone: I did not get much feedback -- three responses on DevMan and none for Aide-de-Camp. The press for DevMan and VNP was generally positive. One person objected to the way it handled file packages; another thought the UI needed work. The anonomized replies appear below (I hope I'm not breaking any netiquette here -- those whose sensibilities are trounced please let me know via email so I can mend my ways): 8<------------------------------- Off the cuff, I'd say that if your needs are not TOO sophisticated, then DevMan is a great product. It extends RCS just enough to make it useable for most NeXTSTEP development. DevMan supports multiple directories, project hierarchies, and NeXTSTEP "wrappers" suchs as apps, dbmodels, etc. as well as subprojects and bundles. I find the GUI very easy to use, although you will have to visit the command line to use configuration maps (which allow you to tie together multiple "projects" from a single point of control) and to label your baselines. Other than that, its speedy enough, its cheap enough, and VNP's support has been great! They return phone calls and email promptly, and the developer, Luke Blanshard, has been very willing to listen to ideas and suggestions for future releases. 8<------------------------------------ XXXXX has ordered a few copies of DevMan, and we had an demo about a month or two ago. I have not actually sat down and created a entire project and tried the functions, but the demo covered all the features and we all participlated in the demo. It seems to have a lot of functionality, but still requires going to the shell to perform certain commands. I found the interface a little confusion as there are multiple screens which look similar. It seemed to have a couple bugs which required restarting, and we were not very happy with the diff/merge process. They need to make the CM more intuative. I believe that they are supposed to be improving some of the features and ending the relience on typing commands at the shell level. I would like that because it would free us up from our CM scripts (which I wrote). My opinion is that this product, if they are continuing development, will be good at some point. 8<------------------------------------- I'm evaluating DevMan and DRCS. A serious drawback to DevMan is its treatment of NEXTSTEP file packages. DevMan apparently tars (and hopefully, compresses) the entire file package contents and archives the entire package as a binary file. This precludes merging which is an important capability for rtfd packages as far as I'm concerned. And because of this treatment of file packages, version diffs aren't stored, so each time even a minor change is checked in, the entire file package is archived making disk space usage high for archived file packages. But DRCS seems to be considerably more "lightweight" in its capabilities relative to DevMan (but it's about half the price, so I guess one gets what one pays for :-). I've found no mention of merging capabilities in its documentation, a very important feature for merging bug fixes applied to a past version into a current version. I assume that one would have to drop into command-line rcsmerge to get this capability. I use cvs now, and am trying to move to a GUI solution, and this is just one area in which using the command line seems to be required using DRCS. DRCS doesn't appear to handle the common situation in which a release includes several different projects. In our case, we have a main application project, but the nibs in this project use several different custom palettes. I don't see an easy way to tie all these various projects together using DRCS unless we create a specific directory under which only these projects exist. But we use the palettes for other projects as well, so a specific directory structure seems to be a poor solution. DevMan's configuration maps seem to handle this situation. But I don't like DevMan's adding administrative files to all archived directories like cvs does. This is probably why DevMan's developers chose to treat file packages as they did. The loss of these adminstrative files when a file package is edited is a problem, but I've solved it without a lot of trouble using cvs, so I think that DevMan could do better. I like the DRCS approach of placing administrative files in the archive rather than in the working directories, but maybe that limits its capabilities in some way. Version control is a complex issue. I'd probably license DevMan if it handled file packages just like any other directory. This makes me wonder how difficult it might be to put a simple UI on cvs. Probably not difficult, but it would be time-consuming. I'd rather buy than build a solution, but I'm not thrilled with the current alternatives :-( 8<------------------------------------------- Thanks for the replies. If anyone has additional feedback, I'd be glad to hear it. DL -- David Lewis g8udgl@fnma.com (NeXTmail OK), 202-752-4785
From: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printer Roller Trouble Date: 29 Nov 1994 06:51:47 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3bej23$1vd@agate.berkeley.edu> Originator: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu I'm starting to get a 1/2 inch wide, "track" across all my printing that runs the full length of the page. It corresponds to one of the rollers that appears to guide paper out of the tray (if this makes any sense). Further, perpendicular to this, there is the suggestion of regular "pressure" differentials in the print with accentuations appearing approx. every two inches (if this makes any sense). A picture, of course would be worth "a thousand words"...but my printed documents are starting to look like two cents. It's a NeXT 400DPI printer. Any ideas on what could be causing this and/or any adjustments that can be made? Thanks. John
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FlexFax Message-ID: <D00IBF.J03@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 04:40:26 GMT References: <3bddu6$jdl@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) writes: >has anyone tried (and succeeded??) to use a FlexFax FAX server on some other >machine (here it is a SUN WS) for a NeXT? No, GCC 2.5.8 doesn't like to compile it correctly, and the library support was not adequate (POSIX). >I would like to use the nice fax features of my next (just click FAX on the >print panel) but the faxmodem in our group is attached to a SUN and managed >by FLEXFAX. Any ideas how to proceed? I have mgetty+sendfax V0.22 running right now integrated into the system. I posted the means to comp.sys.next.admin last week. I had more hacks to do to it since and am still dealing with a TIOCGPGRP ... Enjoy, Ciao 73 de VE6MGS/Mark Salyzyn -sk-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: vhs@qb.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: signature in NewsGrazer (Release 2.0, v72.3) Message-ID: <D01361.7y5@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 12:10:49 GMT In article <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com> dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes: > Can someone tell me how to stop NewsGrazer from inserting my signature 2 times? > > I have a .signature file (ASCII text) in my home dir. > > When I have the "Ignore .sig file" preference on, it only inserts part of my signature > when I post (eg, look at the incomplete signature repeated at the end of this message). > If I leave the "Ignore .sig file" preference off, it inserts my full signature AND an > incomplete copy of my signature. > > Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? NewsGrazer inserts your full signature when you have the Preferences set appropriately. It inserts your signature only once. Then inews comes along, sees your posting and your .signature file, appends it, but strips the .sig file to four lines, to prevent people from using overlong signatures. If you are using cnews, you can prevent this by editing the file pnews, which should be in $NEWSBIN/inject ($NEWSBIN is probably /usr/local/news/bin or /usr/local/bin/news). At the end there are the following lines: if test -r $HOME/.signature; then # POLICY: chop .sigs at 4 lines echo "-- "; sed 4q $HOME/.signature fi Comment them out by inserting a '#' character at the beginning of the line. Hope that helps, Volker -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.langen.bull.de) "Well, it was micro, and it was soft..." Mrs. Gates after the wedding night
From: mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTep on HP Date: 29 Nov 1994 15:10:27 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3bfg93$e3j@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hello, because we are thinking of installing NeXTStep on HP: Does NeXTStep for HP run on every HP workstation, or are there any restrictions? What is the minimal HP-workstation hardware configuration for NeXTSTep 3.2 (with Developer tools)? Any pointers/mails/informations are welcome ... Thanks in advance ... Robert -- Robert Mueller Medizinische Informatik Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation (Universitaetskliniken Mainz) Obere Zahlbacher Str. 69 55131 Mainz
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printer Roller Trouble Date: 29 Nov 1994 15:05:15 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3bffvb$lvb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3bej23$1vd@agate.berkeley.edu> romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) writes: >I'm starting to get a 1/2 inch wide, "track" across all my printing that >runs the full length of the page. It corresponds to one of the rollers >that appears to guide paper out of the tray (if this makes any sense). >Further, perpendicular to this, there is the suggestion of regular >"pressure" differentials in the print with accentuations appearing approx. >every two inches (if this makes any sense). A picture, of course would >be worth "a thousand words"...but my printed documents are starting to >look like two cents. It's a NeXT 400DPI printer. Any ideas on what could >be causing this and/or any adjustments that can be made? 99% of all printer streaks can be fixed by replacing the toner cartridge. Beyond that, check that your corona wires are clean and that you are replacing the bar that comes with a new toner cartridge and goes on top of the fuser (the hot part the paper goes through right before it exits the printer). -- David Lemson (217) 244-8833 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Trivia. Message-ID: <1994Nov29.081552.5849@roper.uwyo.edu> From: ezimmerm@UWYO.EDU Date: 29 Nov 94 08:15:52 MST Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie Salutations! I was playing the '80s edition of Trivial Pursuit this past weekend and had the following question: "Who's complete works were incorporated into the NeXT operating system?" Or something like that. Is this just news to me, or has someone already mentioned that NeXT is mentioned in this game? Gene ezimmerm@uwyo.edu p.s. They spelt NeXT 'Next.'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc From: rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis) Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT 2.88 SCSI floppy drive Message-ID: <1994Nov29.161320.10216@sq.sq.com> Followup-To: poster Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada References: <1994Nov25.171920.12142@sq.sq.com> <ERNEST.94Nov25192843@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 16:13:20 GMT I've been advised that If you use a PLI scsi type of drive, you will probably not be able to format any disks if you install 3.2 This is one of the bugs of 3.2 [...] Better ask an ace before getting a PLI and upgrading to 3.2 NeXTanswers 1484 (PLIFloppyInit) describes this problem. It seems that you can't format a floppy from the Workspace Manager. (You'll get the message "Cannot initialize disk. See console for errors.") By way of a work-around, it describes how to format a floppy from a shell. My remaining questions are: - does anyone know if this workaround is good for 2.88 M floppies, or will it only work with 1.44 M disks? - does anyone know if this is fixed in 3.3? Followups to me; I'll summarise responses. --Rick. -- Rick Innis SoftQuad Inc. "Have you seen the secret of the Universe?" said rick.innis@sq.com Zebedee, arriving. "I know I left it here somewhere." +1 (416) 239 4801 x251
From: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.unixware,mi.misc,mi.sun,rec.travel.misc,sci.crypt,umich.networking,umich.org.acm,umich.unix,umich.unix.admin Subject: CFP: Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing Supersedes: <3963k0$sjp@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: 29 Nov 1994 18:24:16 GMT Organization: University of Michigan CITI Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bfrkg$pg6@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Announcement and Call for Papers Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location-Independent Computing April 10-11, 1995 Ann Arbor, Michigan Sponsored by the USENIX Association The Second USENIX Symposium on Mobile and Location- Independent Computing will provide a major opportunity for researchers and practitioners in this rapidly growing field to exchange ideas and present results of their work. The First Mobile Computing Symposium, held in Boston in August 1993, generated a great deal of interest from the UNIX and mobile computing communities. Since that time, mobile computing has become an even hotter topic, with the size, cost, and power requirements of the equipment going down. The FCC has announced a plan to auction radio spectrum for use of mobile devices, and the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is in the process of standardizing protocols for mobile TCP/IP, including roaming capabilities. Mobile computers are the fastest growing segment of the PC market, airlines are scrambling to provide network connectivity on board, and terminal rooms at computer conferences routinely provide network taps for users who bring their own computers. The 1995 symposium is a single-track symposium offering two days of refereed paper presentations. The symposium will also include panels, Work-in-Progress reports, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions, and a Keynote speaker. Formally reviewed papers, presented during the symposium, will be published in the symposium proceedings. Proceedings will be distributed free to attendees and later will be available for purchase from the USENIX Association. DATES FOR REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS Extended abstracts due: January 2, 1995 Notification to authors: January 23, 1995 Camera-ready final papers due: March 6, 1995 PROGRAM COMMITTEE Program Chair: Jim Rees University of Michigan Jim.Rees@umich.edu Norman Adams Xerox PARC norman@parc.xerox.com Dan Duchamp Columbia University djd@cs.columbia.edu Dan Geer OpenVision Technologies, Inc. geer@cam.ov.com Phil Karn Qualcomm karn@qualcomm.com Jim Kempf Sun Microsystems james.kempf@eng.sun.com Jay Kistler Digital Equipment Corporation jjk@src.dec.com SYMPOSIUM TOPICS We seek original and innovative papers about current developments in mobile and location-independent computing. We are especially interested in reports on practical experiences with mobile systems. The Mobile Computing Symposium will address a wide range of issues and ongoing developments, including, but not limited to: - Applications for the mobile user - Navigation and positioning (GPS, etc.) - Security, especially in wireless environments or when away from home - Caching and disconnected operation of applications and file systems - Communications Protocols, including mobile TCP/IP - Wireless communications (CDPD, CDMA, GSM, Ardis/RAM, cellular modem, etc.), and how they relate to and interact with operating systems and applications - Portable and mobile computing equipment SUBMISSIONS OF REFEREED PAPERS Submission of an extended abstract of 1500-2500 words (9000- 15000 bytes or 3-5 pages) is recommended. Shorter abstracts run a significant risk of rejection as there will be little on which the program committee can base an opinion. Extended abstracts should be sent to Jim Rees at the address below. For administrative reasons (not blind reviewing), each submission should include a separate page or e-mail message giving the title of the paper, the names and affiliations of the authors, and the name of the author who will act as the contact person for the program committee. For the contact person, also include a daytime telephone number, postal address, e-mail address and FAX number if possible. For questions about refereed paper submissions and other program concerns, contact the Program Chair; contact information follows. If you would like to receive detailed guidelines for submission and examples of extended abstracts, you may telephone the USENIX Association office at +1 510 528- 8649 or email to mobile2authors@usenix.org. USENIX symposia, like most symposia and journals, require that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976. WHERE TO SUBMIT Jim Rees CITI University of Michigan 519 West William Ann Arbor, Michigan USA 48103 Internet: Jim.Rees@umich.edu Telephone: +1 313 763-4174 Fax: +1 313 763-4434 FOR REGISTRATION INFORMATION Materials containing all details of the technical and tutorial programs, registration fees and forms, and hotel information will be available beginning in February 1995. If you wish to receive the registration materials, please contact USENIX at: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert Street, Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 Telephone: +1 714 588-8649 Fax: +1 714 588-9706 Internet: conference@usenix.org
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printing large images Date: 29 Nov 1994 18:23:20 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <3bfrio$8lk@transfer.stratus.com> I recently downloaded some interesting B&W images that I'd like to print out ... but they are fairly large (all in the 700x1000 range). When I print them, the picture is split onto two pages (unnecessarily, because large margins are left on all four sides). Further, the right side of the image is clipped and the remainder is not printed anywhere. This is all under NS 3.2 (Intel). I get the same results printing from OmniImage or WetPaint, printing to a generic HP PostScript printer, a black hardware NeXT printer, or when previewing. How does one reduce the size of the margins? Where did the right side of my image go? Why was that not printed? I'd like to print at at least 100% image size. -- Your CHEEKS sit like twin NECTARINES above a MOUTH that knows no BOUNDS -- Howard Ship hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com [NeXT Mail OK] `84 GPz 750 "I lurk not, neither do I flame." -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C%<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M<9C!< M9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I[7&-O;&]R M=&)L.UQR960P7&=R965N,%QB;'5E,#M]"EQP87)D7'1X,3$U,EQT>#(S,#1< M='@S-#4V7'1X-#8P.%QT>#4W-C!<='@V.3$R7'1X.#`V-%QT>#DR,39<='@Q M,#,V.%QT>#$Q-3(P7&8Q7&(P7&DP7'5L;F]N95QF<S(T7&9C,5QC9C$@22!R M96-E;G1L>2!D;W=N;&]A9&5D('-O;64@:6YT97)E<W1I;F<@0B97(&EM86=E M<R!T:&%T($DG9"!L:6ME('1O('!R:6YT(&]U="`N+BX@8G5T('1H97D@87)E M(&9A:7)L>2!L87)G92`H86QL(&EN('1H92`W,#!X,3`P,"!R86YG92DN7`I< M"E=H96X@22!P<FEN="!T:&5M+"!T:&4@<&EC='5R92!I<R!S<&QI="!O;G1O M('1W;R!P86=E<R`H=6YN96-E<W-A<FEL>2P@8F5C875S92!L87)G92!M87)G M:6YS(&%R92!L969T(&]N(&%L;"!F;W5R('-I9&5S*2X@($9U<G1H97(L('1H M92!R:6=H="!S:61E(&]F('1H92!I;6%G92!I<R!C;&EP<&5D(&%N9"!T:&4@ M<F5M86EN9&5R(&ES(&YO="!P<FEN=&5D(&%N>7=H97)E+EP*7`I4:&ES(&ES M(&%L;"!U;F1E<B!.4R`S+C(@*$EN=&5L*2X@($D@9V5T('1H92!S86UE(')E M<W5L=',@<')I;G1I;F<@9G)O;2!/;6YI26UA9V4@;W(@5V5T4&%I;G0L('!R M:6YT:6YG('1O(&$@9V5N97)I8R!(4"!0;W-T4V-R:7!T('!R:6YT97(L(&$@ M8FQA8VL@:&%R9'=A<F4@3F585"!P<FEN=&5R+"!O<B!W:&5N('!R979I97=I M;F<N7`I<"DAO=R!D;V5S(&]N92!R961U8V4@=&AE('-I>F4@;V8@=&AE(&UA M<F=I;G,_("!7:&5R92!D:60@=&AE(')I9VAT('-I9&4@;V8@;7D@:6UA9V4@ M9V\_("!7:'D@=V%S('1H870@;F]T('!R:6YT960_("!))V0@;&EK92!T;R!P M<FEN="!A="!A="!L96%S="`Q,#`E(&EM86=E('-I>F4N7`I<"@I<<&%R9%QT M>#4R,%QT>#$P-C!<='@Q-C`P7'1X,C$R,%QT>#(V-C!<='@S,C`P7'1X,S<R M,%QT>#0R-C!<='@T.#`P7'1X-3,R,%QF8S%<8V8Q("TM7`I9;W5R($-(145+ M4R!S:70@;&EK92!T=VEN($Y%0U1!4DE.15,@86)O=F4@82!-3U542"!T:&%T M(&MN;W=S(&YO($)/54Y$4R`M+5P*(%P*2&]W87)D(%-H:7`@(&AS:&EP0'-I M;FES=&%R+F-A8RYS=')A='5S+F-O;2`@6TYE6%0@36%I;"!/2UT@(&`X-"!' M4'H@-S4P7`H)(DD@;'5R:R!N;W0L(&YE:71H97(@9&\@22!F;&%M92XB7`H* "?0H@ `
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TIOCGPGRP? Date: 29 Nov 1994 12:30:53 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411291830.AA03929@cantina.lanl.gov> In the Re: FlexFax thread, Mark Salzyn wrote > ...and am still dealing with a TIOCGPGRP ... TIOCGPGRP? That's not even a TLA (three-letter acronym)! -- Dick Silbar, WhistleSoft, Inc. Vox: 505-662-7309 (or 667-5253) Fax: 505-662-7601 e-mail: silbar@beep.roadrunner.com NeXTMail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
From: mpcavana@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Maureen Cavanagh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXT/Nextstep User Groups? Date: 29 Nov 1994 21:49:08 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL Message-ID: <3bg7kk$6pg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Is there a Next/NextStep User Group in Chicago?
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From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: show current time in Stuart window Date: 29 Nov 1994 15:27:16 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411292126.AA25621@alleg.EDU> I know the Stuart window is set by osc -title "Stuff you want in title" What I'd like to know is if there is an easy/effective way to show the current time, and have it be continually updated (rather than as a 'precmd' in tcsh or some such). Even if the window is just sitting there, it should keep updating the time. Any ideas? If so, please let me know. Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 (m68k) UNIX-based workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked in the first place
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From: Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Newton Connection Kit under Executor on Next '040 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 18:47:42 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4iqvqS_SMUgEA14qYC@transarc.com> Has anyone here tried to use Executor on black Next hardware to run the Mac version of the NCK? How about SoftPC and the PC version (or is that an MS-Windows version? Gack. I'm afraid to contemplate running MSWindows under SoftPC on an '040.)
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ANDI? Date: 29 Nov 1994 18:59:10 -0800 Organization: Cal Poly, State University Message-ID: <3bgppu$6uj@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste Does ANDI still exist? If so what are they up to and where can I contact them? Thanks, -Mont Dover Pacific Computing Inc. (NeXTMail OK :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis) Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT 2.88 SCSI floppy drive Message-ID: <1994Nov29.181225.18619@sq.sq.com> Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada References: <1994Nov25.171920.12142@sq.sq.com> <ERNEST.94Nov25192843@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> <1994Nov29.161320.10216@sq.sq.com> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 18:12:25 GMT I've been advised that people have been able to format 2.88 M disks using the workaround. No news on whether or not it's fixed in 3.3 yet. --Rick. 3~ -- Rick Innis SoftQuad Inc. "Have you seen the secret of the Universe?" said rick.innis@sq.com Zebedee, arriving. "I know I left it here somewhere." +1 (416) 239 4801 x251
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis) Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT 2.88 SCSI floppy drive Message-ID: <1994Nov29.221322.4881@sq.sq.com> Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada References: <ERNEST.94Nov25192843@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> <1994Nov29.161320.10216@sq.sq.com> <1994Nov29.181225.18619@sq.sq.com> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 22:13:22 GMT In article <1994Nov29.181225.18619@sq.sq.com> I wrote: > I've been advised that people have been able to format 2.88 M disks using > the workaround. I've been told that: - another workaround is to replace /usr/etc/disk with the one from NeXTStep 3.0 -- the bug was introduced in 3.1. - it's fixed in 3.3. --Rick. -- Rick Innis SoftQuad Inc. "Have you seen the secret of the Universe?" said rick.innis@sq.com Zebedee, arriving. "I know I left it here somewhere." +1 (416) 239 4801 x251
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: show current time in Stuart window Date: 30 Nov 1994 10:18:41 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov30101841@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <9411292126.AA25621@alleg.EDU> To: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) In-reply-to: luomat@alleg.EDU's message of 29 Nov 1994 15:27:16 -0600 Look at Stuart's Help I think it describes how to get the esc sequences to do what you want. Also. Consider using zsh which will display the prompt on the right hand side in a smart fashion. -- "Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ad934@lafn.org (Chris Horton) Subject: JOB: Tech support for Animation Software Co, No. Hollywood Message-ID: <1994Nov30.050423.3243@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 05:04:23 GMT TECHNICAL SUPPORT PERSONS REQUIRED ANIMATION SOFTWARE COMPANY BASED IN NORTH HOLLYWOOD Cambridge Animation Systems is a software company developing animation software for the professional animation industry. The company sells a range of software products : Animo Studio - digital ink & paint Animo Animator - automatic inbetweening of character AnimoLipSync - automatic dialogue lipsync Animo SFX- effects for animation. The products have been developed and run under NeXTSTEP and all our customers have Intel or HP machines running NeXTSTEP. The company is based in Cambridge, UK and in North Hollywood, USA. We have customers world wide using Animo for feature films, television series, interactive media/games and broadcast animation. We are currently seeking to recruit new Technical Support people who will be based in the North Hollywood office. These individuals will become familiar with the Animo system and will work closely with our customers, setting up systems, trouble shooting, and performing other technical services. When necessary, these individuals will also travel to customer studios to provide on site support. The ideal candidate has 1 or more years experience with NeXTSTEP, familiarity with UNIX, excellent system administration skills (esp. networking, including internet services), an understanding of general PC hardware, and solid technical problem solving skills. A familiarity and interest in cartoon animation would also be useful. Please send resume with educational background, salary requirements, and work experience by e-mail to tom@cam-ani-us.com (and copy to support@cam-ani-us.com) or write to Tom Carrigan, Cambridge Animation Systems Inc 11417 Moorpark Street, North Hollywood, CA 91602. -- Chris Horton ad934@lafn.org
From: michael@clxgraph.com (Michael Rutchik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Support for Epson Stylus Color? Date: 30 Nov 1994 02:23:32 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bgnn5$qo3@nntp.crl.com> References: <3be1vl$aoh@polo.iquest.com> > You beat me to it. I was about to ask the same question and > so I obviously would like someone to post a response. I was all > set to get a HP560C and use the ghostHPDJ driver when a friend > showed me an output from the Epson. So, is there a way to use > some kind of ghostscript solution for the Epson Stylus Color? Check with GS Corp (info@goldleaf.com). I know they either have something in the works or something already completed. Michael Rutchik michael@clxgraph.com
From: benedett@deis05.cineca.it (Arrigo Benedetti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: NextStep screen shots in the background anywhere? Date: 30 Nov 1994 14:58:40 GMT Organization: Cineca Message-ID: <3bi3v0$lje@sirio.cineca.it> I'm looking for nice screen shots taken from a NextStep machine to put in the root window of the Sun that I use at the University (running X with ctwm). Is there anything like this anywhere on the net? Best Regards, -Arrigo Benedetti -- Arrigo Benedetti e-mail:benedett@deis05.cineca.it University of Bologna bndm13k1@bologna.nettuno.it (NeXTmail accepted) Via S. Agata 11 41100 MODENA - ITALY phone: (home) + 39 59 224929 (office) +39 59 216688 (fax) +39 59 220727
From: Stefanita Vilcu <vsv@Romania.EU.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fax program for NeXT Date: 30 Nov 1994 12:56:33 GMT Organization: EUnet Network Operations Centre, Amsterdam, NL Message-ID: <3bhsq3$drn@news.EU.net> Hello, Maybe someone of you know a program I can use to send faxes from a black NeXT through a Hayes Smartmodem OPTIMA 14400 FAX144 or Telebit WorldBlazer. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Gratefully, Stefanita Vilcu EUnet Romania vsv@Romania.EU.net
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Swap Expansion Date: 30 Nov 1994 07:45:57 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <3bhajl$h64@network.ucsd.edu> Will the expanding swapfile be tamed in 3.3? Let's hope so; From the marketing blurb for 3.3: ---------------- OS MACH 3.0: Core components of MACH 3.0 have been integrated into Release 3.3 to improve the robustness and performance of the operating system, especially under heavy load. ROBUSTNESS The smooth operation of a company depends on the uninterrupted service of its mission-critical applications. If a financial trading company cannot make trades for fifteen minutes due to a system down-time, it could lose hundreds of thousands in revenue. NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 is designed to service these mission-critical applications 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Hundreds of carefully chosen focused enhancements and improvements have been added throughout the system to increase the overall robustness of the operating system while ensuring backward compatibility. This strategy enables NeXT to introduce new technologies to the NEXTSTEP community while providing a seamless and painless upgrade path. ---------------- Surely not definitive but at least encouraging. -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Q] Finding hidden dwrites Date: 30 Nov 1994 11:01:08 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411301700.AA07437@alleg.EDU> I know this is something of a perennial topic, but is there a way to find all the hidden dwrites an app may possess? Does gdb work ? If so, how? many thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 (m68k) UNIX-based workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't be asking now.
From: tbm@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXT/Nextstep User Groups? Date: 30 Nov 1994 17:58:27 GMT Organization: Graz University of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bieg3$7id@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> References: <3bg7kk$6pg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Maureen Cavanagh (mpcavana@merle.acns.nwu.edu) wrote: > Is there a Next/NextStep User Group in Chicago? yes, there are more than only one: check stepwise, http://digifix.digifix.com/ http://digifix.digifix.com/User_Group/US/Illinois.html Illinois Institute of Technology NUG Robert Von Borstel Academic Computing Center 10 West 31st Street Chicago, Il 60616 Phone: (312) 567-5809 Fax: (312) 567-5913 Email: vonb@fred.iit.edu Meeting Schedule: Dues: Newsletter: Founded: Last Updated: 2/15/94 The LoopGroup (Downtown Chicago NEXTSTEP User Group) Eric Wespestad -- President c/o Information Technology Solutions, Inc. 500 West Madison, Suite 2210 Chicago, IL 60661 Phone: (312) 474-7700 FAX: (312) 474-9361 Email: loopgroup@its.com Meeting Schedule: 3rd Tuesday of each month. Meeting Location: ITS Offices Dues: None Newsletter: None Founded: July, 1991 Special Services: downtown BBS Last Updated: 2/24/94 NationsBanc-CRT NeXT User Group Michael Myers NationsBanc-CRT 440 S. LaSalle St, Suite 3400 Chicago, IL 60605 Email: mikemy@crt.com Phone: Fax: (312) 431-3089 Meeting Schedule: (private) - Corporate Group Dues: None Newsletter: None Founded: February, 1992 Last Updated: 2/28/94 -- Martin Michlmayr <tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rvs@vnp.com (Ronald V. Simmons) Subject: Re: SUMMARY: NeXT CM Tools -- DevMan and Aide-de-Camp Message-ID: <1994Nov30.135925.2274@vnp.com> Keywords: DevMan, CM, SCM Sender: news@vnp.com (News account) Organization: VNP Software References: <1994Nov29.040045.22568@almserv.uucp> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 13:59:25 GMT Excuse me if you've already seen this, but I had a news screw up yesterday and I'm not sure if it made it out.. I'm responding to what I feel are some misconceptions about our product, DevMan, that were posted in the article below. I've deleted all the complimentary stuff, since I am in full agreement with it. :^) Note that I am certainly biased about the product (I am an integral part of the design team after all), but I will attempt to limit my market-speak to what was said directly in the post. Flames to /dev/null. In article <1994Nov29.040045.22568@almserv.uucp> g8udgl@fnma.com (David G. Lewis) writes: > Hi Everyone: > > I did not get much feedback -- three responses on DevMan and none for > Aide-de-Camp. The press for DevMan and VNP was generally positive. > [compliments munch]; [misconceptions begin]; > > I'm evaluating DevMan and DRCS. A serious drawback to DevMan is > its treatment of NEXTSTEP file packages. Needless to say, we don't feel that our handling of file packages is a drawback at all, serious or otherwise. In fact, we and many of our customers find transparent handling of file packages to be a "serious" feature. We certainly designed it to be one. > DevMan apparently tars (and > hopefully, compresses) the entire file package contents and archives the > entire package as a binary file. True. > This precludes merging which is an > important capability for rtfd packages as far as I'm concerned. Not true. Not only is merging not precluded, we take steps to actively support it. You simply have to have a tool that can do the diffs. One of the flashier ways that we demo DevMan is to diff/merge two different versions of a file by using the FileMerge API. It takes one mouse click and as far as I'm concerned is ideal for diffing rtfd's (certainly it is infinitely superior to rcsmerge or plain diff). It tells you which tiff or eps files have changed and shows you the changes in the rtf text as either rtf or ascii. And it works on source just as easily. Get the demo and check it out. While this may not help you much with .nib, .diagram2, or .dbbindings files, I'm not aware of any package that will (including cvs as promoted below). The reason for this has nothing to do with DevMan. It's just that to do a merge you have to have a means of diffing two files intelligently and I'm not aware of such diff tools for .nibs, et. al. There certainly is no single diff tool that will accomodate all these formats. > And > because of this treatment of file packages, version diffs aren't stored, > so each time even a minor change is checked in, > the entire file package is > archived making disk space usage high for archived file packages. True, but I think this makes the costs of DevMan's approach sound much higher than in reality they ever are. Here's why: 1) I've seen plenty of sites that have source files with 100's of revisions, but I've never seen documents (or nibs for that matter) that get anywhere near this. The files just don't get that big. 2) In practice, (and I've had a lot practice) the price you pay in extra disk usage for DevMan's solution is not even close to the price paid in developer time to build and maintain non-standard Makefiles or do other tricks across different NextStep releases. When you factor in having to work in environments that use different OS's (as many of our customers do) and when you think about how well these techniques will translate to OpenStep on Sun, Dec, or even Windows '95 (should there ever be such a beast), then there is a very strong argument to be made for keeping it very simple. We feel DevMan does the cleanest, simplest thing possible, though we're certainly open to ideas about how to improve it. 3) DevMan provides a "compact" command that allows you to get rid of versions that are not being used anymore. After a release, you simply strip out intermediate versions of files and the disk usage gets ludicrously low. In short, when a repository is correctly administered, I have yet to see a case when file bloat has been of any concern. > But I don't like DevMan's adding administrative files to all > archived directories like cvs does. The implication here is that this is just a matter of taste when in fact it is not. CVS does this for many good reasons and so does DevMan. One example - you have to have some indication in the work area of where the matching repository resides. RCS does this with a symbolic link, DevMan does it with a .WorkArea file. In either case, it's still a file in the archive. > This is probably why DevMan's > developers chose to treat file packages as they did. Nope. We treat file packages the way we do because we thought then and think now that it's cleaner, simpler, and much more portable. See above. > The loss of these > adminstrative files when a file package is edited is a problem, but I've > solved it without a lot of trouble using cvs, so I think that DevMan > could do better. The real problem here is that Edit, IB, etc. take an approach to handling file packages that needlessly complicates the life of CM tools, i.e. it won't leave the directory that the package uses in place. (This NS feature must be especially fun for the file system based alternatives like TeamOne :^) ). DevMan is designed to be (and is) multi-platform, so we are limited in what we should do to support Next-specific things like this.. > I like the DRCS approach of placing administrative > files in the archive rather than in the working directories, but maybe > that limits its capabilities in some way. I don't quite understand this sentence when compared with the comment further above that you don't like DevMan or CVS placing admin files in the archive. Why do you not like it when CVS and DevMan do it but you do like it when DRCS does? In any case, you really need to do both. Information that is shared between all developers (like who's got what locks) has to be in the shared repository since that is the only place where development environments "touch". Specific information (like what versions this work area contains) has to be in (or associated with) the work area itself since doing otherwise makes it extremely difficult to provide completely independent work areas. > Version control is a complex issue. > That is undeniable. :^) > I'd probably license DevMan if it handled file packages just like > any other directory. Sorry to hear this, we were looking forward to having you as a customer. > This makes me wonder how difficult it might be to > put a simple UI on cvs. Probably not difficult, but it would be > time-consuming. I highly recommend that you give this a shot. Some of our best customers did just this, a few months before calling us. :^) Seriously, we've got two years of development, >50 installed sites, and 3 releases of the product that says doing this right is not a simple task and is quite time consuming. > I'd rather buy than build a solution, but I'm not > thrilled with the current alternatives :-( Again, sorry to hear this. If there is anything I can do to better address your concerns about DevMan, please do let me know.. rvs =================================== --- Ronald V. Simmons Principal VNP Software 180 Franklin St. Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Van_Simmons@vnp.com (617) 661-4292 (voice) (617) 864-6768 (fax) -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3 mQCNAi263/4AAAEEAMkSNi+cbYuz81+G0D7m3/w6C2jygvWhGr2EcFpkDVEC7NL5 bgYAaaoHbzbRgYx9bMgmnP/m2qhhNbM8ZNuT7lIZHFiVAtQacdwNC/LsRVpZ1uIC 4vV6vgY7SzFsFs5iseFHyOGIYmCFEUJ2uTCLViGOlX/wp31kX9hu9aFE9/BhAAUR tBNWYW5fU2ltbW9uc0B2bnAuY29t =ak6j -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Message-ID: <1994Nov30.112944.22773@vnp.com>
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: If anyone at Antigone sees this , please read Date: 30 Nov 1994 10:23:18 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9411301622.AA05396@alleg.EDU> My apologies to anyone else. I have been trying to get off the mailing list for comp.sys.next.misc for about 3 weeks now, and all of my messages go unanswered. I was going to be gone for an extended time, and so I subscribed via email so I could keep up with the group. It took several times longer for this group to subscribe as opposed to other NeXT email lists, and now it simply will not go away. I'd appreciate if someone could look into this for me. thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 (m68k) UNIX-based workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't be asking now.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) Subject: Re: TIOCGPGRP? Message-ID: <1994Nov30.175704.9203@leeds.ac.uk> Sender: news@leeds.ac.uk Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 17:57:04 +0000 (GMT) References: <9411291830.AA03929@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: > In the Re: FlexFax thread, Mark Salzyn wrote >> ...and am still dealing with a TIOCGPGRP ... > TIOCGPGRP? That's not even a TLA (three-letter acronym)! It's an ioctl. Preseumably a broken one goping on past experience - TIOCSPGRP certainly is. These two set/get the process group. -bat.
From: Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Appletalk on Next Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 16:54:09 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <MirDG1aSMUgE414sIr@transarc.com> References: <4iqvqS_SMUgEA14qYC@transarc.com> In-Reply-To: <4iqvqS_SMUgEA14qYC@transarc.com> Ok, my query about the NCK on black hardware was answered positively negatively. So, how about Appletalk? I know that a Netware is bundled in 3.0, but what about AFP, or the Appletalk protocols?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Howland_Royce@pcp.ca (Royce Howland) Subject: Re: SUMMARY: NeXT CM Tools -- DevMan and Aide-de-Camp Message-ID: <1994Nov30.184835.19200@pcp.ca> Sender: news@pcp.ca Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. References: <1994Nov29.040045.22568@almserv.uucp> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 18:48:35 GMT In article <1994Nov29.040045.22568@almserv.uucp> g8udgl@fnma.com (David G. Lewis) writes: > Hi Everyone: > > I did not get much feedback -- three responses on DevMan and none for > Aide-de-Camp. The press for DevMan and VNP was generally positive. One > person objected to the way it handled file packages; another thought the > UI needed work. The anonomized replies appear below (I hope I'm not > breaking any netiquette here -- those whose sensibilities are trounced > please let me know via email so I can mend my ways): > > [...] > 8<------------------------------------- > I'm evaluating DevMan and DRCS. A serious drawback to DevMan is > its treatment of NEXTSTEP file packages. DevMan apparently tars (and > hopefully, compresses) the entire file package contents and archives the > entire package as a binary file. This precludes merging which is an > important capability for rtfd packages as far as I'm concerned. And > because of this treatment of file packages, version diffs aren't stored, > so each time even a minor change is checked in, the entire file package is > archived making disk space usage high for archived file packages. > [...] > But I don't like DevMan's adding administrative files to all > archived directories like cvs does. This is probably why DevMan's > developers chose to treat file packages as they did. The loss of these > adminstrative files when a file package is edited is a problem, but I've > solved it without a lot of trouble using cvs, so I think that DevMan could > do better. I like the DRCS approach of placing administrative files in > the archive rather than in the working directories, but maybe that limits > its capabilities in some way. Version control is a complex issue. > I'd probably license DevMan if it handled file packages just like > any other directory. This makes me wonder how difficult it might be to > put a simple UI on cvs. Probably not difficult, but it would be > time-consuming. I'd rather buy than build a solution, but I'm not > thrilled with the current alternatives :-( > 8<------------------------------------------- > > Thanks for the replies. If anyone has additional feedback, I'd be glad to > hear it. I didn't have time to reply before, but do now, so here goes. I wasn't aware that Aide-de-Camp was available for NEXTSTEP. The only native tools I know of are DRCS and DevMan, with TeamOne still rumored to be coming some day. Here at PanCanadian, we use DevMan for controlling both applications (many with complex project and directory structures) and common class libraries. By and large, the tool does a decent job. (The recently-release version 1.2 is a considerable improvement, I might add.) As your other responders noted, it is still necessary to go to the command line for numerous functions, but I can't really see how this can be avoided without producing a GUI app that looks like a man page with buttons. :~) Furthermore, having the command-line functionality enables custom hacks. (Probably no tool is ever going to provide all the functions you want, so writing custom scripts is going to be necessary for work of any major size. The new DevMan even ships with headers and a library, providing a true programmatic API from Objective C! Go nuts!) The "anonomized" comments I quoted above present, I think, some misconceptions. First, DevMan does not add "administrative files to all archived directories like cvs does". It only adds administrative files (to be precise, a single file, .WorkArea.DevMan) to the top level directory in a managed project (which corresponds to a DevMan "repository"). If this responder has DevMan administrivia in all managed directories, he or she has probably configured the DevMan repositories in a suboptimal fashion. The particular case of having administrative files inside file package directories is clearly undesirable (as anybody who uses CVS will know), and easily avoided with DevMan. Second, DevMan can be used in such a way that file package directories are handled "just like any other directory". In DevMan parlance, this is accomplished by adding the contents of the package directory to the DevMan work area, rather than adding the package directory itself to the DevMan work area. However, in the general case, it is probably undesirable to treat a file package as anything other than an atomic unit. True, this causes extra overhead in the repository from dealing with binary files, and also essentially prevents automated merging. But these are weaknesses with any version control system on the market; DevMan is not particularly bad off in this respect. Is there room for improvement with DevMan? Certainly. The documentation with the new release is much better than with the previous release, but could probably be better still. Configuration maps are a powerful concept for giving a single point of control over a nearly arbitrarily complex collection of projects, but they need better support in the GUI. The main GUI on the app is somewhat non-intuitive and can be cumbersome to use. DevMan needs to better integrate with ProjectBuilder; it can currently parse PB info and automatically snarf up the resources of a PB project and its .lproj subdirectories, but it can't yet handle subprojects automatically. Etc. However, speaking personally (not for PCP), DevMan has turned out better in practise than I initially expected. The product is reasonably functional and the company has been responsive to support questions so far. -- Royce Howland, Object Systems Group | I speak for my cat, but Howland_Royce@pcp.ca | not for OSG or PCP. (PanCanadian Petroleum) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: harts@paulharts.knoware.nl (Paul Harts) Subject: Using CD ROMs and NeXTSTEP? Sender: news@knoware.nl (News Account) Message-ID: <D03wyA.M0n@knoware.nl> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 00:49:22 GMT References: <1994Nov30.050423.3243@lafn.org> Organization: Knoware Nederland Hi Does anyone know a useful method to use DSO or (preferred) Mac CDROMs on NeXTSTEP (black). I really hate SoftPC and am looking for a work around. TIA Paul.
From: Don McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hunter on NSI? Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 23:09:28 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.941130230753.4843A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howdy. I've got Hunter (mine game) on my Cube. I'd like it on my NS/I box too. Anyone got any advice? Don mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: EDW@cup.portal.com (Edward D Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mac to Next file port Date: 30 Nov 1994 08:21:57 -0800 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <128664@cup.portal.com> I am in need of some help. I have been given an old Nextstation to use for fortran/c programming. The project files are presently stored onMac floppies. The Next will copy the files to the hard disk but the carrige returns are lost. Anyone know how to get from Mac to Next with the text files intact? As always, Ed Wright NAVSOC wrighte@smtpgate.mugu.navy.mil
From: schulz@biw.cube.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next Subject: ISDN Date: 01 Dec 94 10:42:17 Organization: BIW Systemhaus Distribution: fj Message-ID: <schulz.94Dec1104217@gecko03> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi we have got the follwoing problem: Is there a way to connect an ISDN card to a NeXT PC? Is there a way to connect an ISDN modem to the serial port of a NeXT PC? Is there a way to connect an ISDN card or modem with a notebook? (PCMCIA, serial port......) Any experiences? Thanks --- Kay Schulz schulz@biw.cube.de --- Dies ist ein Ueberfax. Bitte faxen Sie uns sofort Ihr ganzes Geld! ---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Subject: Re: NeXTSTep on HP Message-ID: <1994Dec1.074311.5101@fokus.gmd.de> Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus References: <3bfg93$e3j@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 07:43:11 GMT In article <3bfg93$e3j@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller) writes: > Hello, > > because we are thinking of installing NeXTStep on HP: > > Does NeXTStep for HP run on every HP workstation, or are there any > restrictions? What is the minimal HP-workstation hardware configuration > for NeXTSTep 3.2 (with Developer tools)? > HP 7x[25] is the answer to the first question. Minimum seems to be a HP 712/60 (Gekko) with 32 MB Ram and a ~500 MB Disk. > Thanks in advance ... > > Robert > dito. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Fischer @ GMD-Fokus -------- __o ------- _`\<,_ fischer@fokus.gmd.de ------- (*)/ (*) ## NeXT-Mail welcome ## -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp..sys.next From: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (G. A. Pohl) Subject: multiple session photo cd support? Message-ID: <1994Dec1.115226.1387@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl) Organization: WYDOKS-International, Berlin Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 11:52:26 GMT IS anything known about handling multiple session photo cd by NeXTSTEP. Recently I had to read a photo from a second record session - I didn t found it! No way? -- .. viel Spasz! G.R.I.S.U.
From: matagl@symix.bkb.symix.com (Matt Agler Released Prod.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NextStep screen shots in the background anywhere? Date: 1 Dec 1994 17:22:24 GMT Organization: Symix Computer Systems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bl0og$cnv@symix.bkb.symix.com> References: <3bi3v0$lje@sirio.cineca.it> me too
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Changing ownership of a file... Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 15:12:18 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <oirWsWG00Uh745a4UF@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3bl5ae$3b2@agate.berkeley.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 1-Dec-94 Changing ownership of a fil.. by John Badanes@romdas.HIP. > Can anyone tell me if there is a command that will change the > *ownership* of a file from 'me' to 'root'? '/usr/etc/chown'. Consult the manpage for usage. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Changing ownership of a file... Date: 1 Dec 1994 18:40:14 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3bl5ae$3b2@agate.berkeley.edu> Originator: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu Can anyone tell me if there is a command that will change the *ownership* of a file from 'me' to 'root'? Thanks. john@romdas.hip.berkeley.edu NeXTmail OK.
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Portrait and landscape posterdoc versus posterprint Date: 1 Dec 1994 06:37:11 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <3bjqun$94@machthenext.dannug.dk> Keywords: Rotated print, postersize docs Hi, I have a customer with a strange small problem. They have a Xerox Poster electrostatic colorplotter attached to their network, and a SUN RIP in front of it, to drive it as a printer. Works like a charm. The problem arises on the NeXT whenever they want to print an odd-sized image, say 55cm tall - 105cm wide. They pop into the Page layout panel in the program (whatever that might be, they all do the same thing!) and define a piece of paper of that size, selects Portrait, and pling!, immediately the Panel swops the two numbers around, and defines the orientation as Landscape, because it takes the larger number to define the orientation of the paper. Now, we have tried many different applications, and no luck, they all do the same, so this seem to be some NEXTSTEP related behaviour. So, why is this a problem, the posterplotter still can print the document. YES, but in doing it as a Landscape plot, first it takes at least twice the time to plot, compared to the Portrait orientation, and second, they are wasting at least twice the paper (and more).... So what we want, is either a way to be able to define a Papersize which still is Portrait, but wider than tall, OR a utility or a piece of software (commercially is fine), that can print postersize documents. I hope someone outthere can help, this is really annoying.... Thanks for any info, best regards Michael -- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark Editor in chief of DANNUG NEWS & DANNUG HOT! NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: tbm@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NextStep screen shots in the background anywhere? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 1 Dec 1994 19:01:00 GMT Organization: Graz University of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bl6hc$5sm@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> References: <3bi3v0$lje@sirio.cineca.it> Arrigo Benedetti (benedett@deis05.cineca.it) wrote: > I'm looking for nice screen shots taken from a NextStep machine to put in > the root window of the Sun that I use at the University (running X with > ctwm). Is there anything like this anywhere on the net? Try the ftp site wuarchive.wustl.edu; there are three files, next.gif next3.gif nextstep.gif I don`t know their location due to the fact that the ftp site is down at the moment, sorry. I have a scanned picture of a cube workstation and a NeXT mouse, if you want those picture please e-mail me at tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at. -- martin michlmayr <tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: n diffs between NeXT and a Pentium? Message-ID: <1994Dec1.123551.392@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 1 Dec 94 12:35:51 CST Organization: As little as I can get away with... Q: What are n differences between a NeXT and a Pentium machine? A: (1) You can buy parts for a Pentium machine. (2) You need to buy parts for a Pentium machine. Any contributions?
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hunter on NSI? Date: 1 Dec 1994 19:31:04 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bl89o$gii@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.941130230753.4843A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Don McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> writes ) Howdy. I've got Hunter (mine game) on my Cube. I'd like it on my NS/I ) box too. Anyone got any advice? I am working on a version right now that has _several_ enhancements. If you'd like to beta test it, drop me a line. It will be released triple fat when it is done (I just need to attach the high score system to it and make a few more tweaks, but it is playable as is right now). If there are enough requests to beta test it, I will just put it up for anon ftp on ftp.et.byu.edu... -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Changing ownership of a file... Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 16:01:16 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AirXaQuSMUgE814nEV@transarc.com> References: <3bl5ae$3b2@agate.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <3bl5ae$3b2@agate.berkeley.edu> john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) writes: > Can anyone tell me if there is a command that will change the > *ownership* of a file from 'me' to 'root'? chown.
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: n diffs between NeXT and a Pentium? Date: 2 Dec 1994 00:07:23 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <3blofr$6cu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <1994Dec1.123551.392@titan.sfasu.edu> In article <1994Dec1.123551.392@titan.sfasu.edu> writes: > > Q: What are n differences between a NeXT and a Pentium machine? > A: (1) You can buy parts for a Pentium machine. > (2) You need to buy parts for a Pentium machine. (3) NeXT does long division. -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory ---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: cyberzin@cyberquest.com (Tom Hicks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Freelance UNIX help needed in Seattle. Date: 1 Dec 1994 16:43:31 -0800 Organization: CyberQuest BBS Message-ID: <3blqjj$h5f@godfather.cyberquest.com> I provide a little tiny dialup Internet service in Seattle. Need to find UNIX tutor and system maintanence help on this NeXT and the SLIP etc connections. This NOT a job a Boeing or Microsoft. This is extra once in awhile help needed. I do this technology as a hobby. I do not have all the skills. The machine was moved from one service to another. The stuff on board here needs to be set to work at the new provider. Current needs are: o News need to be connected here. o Gopher needs to be configured o IRC If you are interested contact me at: tomh@cyberzine.org For some of the stuff I do you might look at: http://cyberzine.org http://cyberzine.org/html/GLAIDS/glaidshomepage.html Thanks Tom Hicks tomh@cyberzine.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fs@comdev.fdn.fr (Frederic STARK) Subject: Re: NFS troubles between NextStep HPPA and HPUX server. Message-ID: <D056u1.Jr6@comdev.fdn.fr> Sender: usenet@comdev.fdn.fr Organization: Communication Developpement. References: <1994Nov25.110053.13816@ipge.toppoint.de> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 17:20:24 GMT In article <1994Nov25.110053.13816@ipge.toppoint.de> ingo@ipge.toppoint.de (Ingo Prochaska) writes: > Frank Bonnet (bonnetf@esiee.fr) wrote: [Well, he have NFS troubles] > ipge's configuration: > 486-40DX-VLB 24 MB Ram > ATI GUP (Mach32) VLP > AHA 2842 VLB > 3COM Etherlink III (3C509-COMBO) > > Ingo > -- > Ingo Prochaska, Olshausenstr. 20, 24118 Kiel, +049 431 84638 When we used 3COM's Etherlink card with NS, we had system hang because of hard-mouted directories (at boot). Changing the buffers in NFS expert option to 1K solved the problem. As we were testing configuration for quite a number of machines, we dropped the 3COM's and took Intel EtherExpress that worked fine. Those things are mentionned in NextAnswers 1482: quote from NA1482: Setup and Installation: The 3COM Etherlink III has small buffers which can cause the board to drop incoming NFS packets resulting in slow NFS performance. To improve performance with Ethernet boards that have small buffers, modify the NFS mount options for often used servers, such as the server containing home directories, to match the characteristics of these boards. Launch NFSManager and do the following. Use the Expert Options button in the Imported Directories window to set the Read and Write buffer sizes to 1024 bytes. This adapter is not recommended for use in NFS intensive environments. end of quote Hope that helps --------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederic STARK fs@comdev.fdn.fr NeXTMail OK (if small) "No keyboard, press F1 to continue" ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Faster mouse speeds? (MouseScaling) Date: 2 Dec 1994 04:50:09 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <3bm922$k79@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <KAOKI.94Nov27013423@hp02.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> In article <KAOKI.94Nov27013423@hp02.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> ken@th.phys.titech.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) writes: >How do you adjust the mouse parameters beyond the 4 choices in >particular given by Preferences.app? There is a >NeXT1 MouseScaling dwrite which has the following 4 settings >corresponding to the 4 choices in Preferences.app, fastest at >the top. > >5 2 2 3 6 4 10 5 15 6 22 >5 2 2 3 4 4 6 5 8 6 10 >5 1 1 6 2 7 3 8 5 9 7 >1 1 1 > >There are 11 parameters. Does anybody know what each parameter >means? I looked around in DL, but couldn't find the relevant >entry. Also in the FAQ and in Nextanswers. Sorry if this is a >RTFM question. Well, it was in the "old" NA. -=EPS=- ------- mouse scaling Q: How can I get my mouse pointer to stop jumping around, and to glide smoothly across the screen? A: Type the following command into a shell window: % dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "string" Where "string" contains a single value indicating the number of integer pairs to follow, followed by the actual pairs. The integer pairs are (speed, acceleration) pairs. These integer pairs make the mouse movement on the screen dependent both on the distance the mouse was moved on the pad, and its acceleration and speed. When you change the mouse speed through the Preferences application, it creates one of these. Here's the format of a MouseScaling argument: % dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "N x1 a1 x2 a2 x3 a3 x4 a4 ... xN aN" To give the mouse a smoother motion across the screen, you must make the mouse movement linear (uniform, but slow). This dwrite will do the trick: % dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "1 1 1" This means that if you move the mouse x amount on the pad, it moves it by kx pixels on the screen regardless of how long it took. (k is the constant which translates the mouse pad coordinate system to the screen coordinate system.) Warning: we cannot guarantee the support of dwrites in future releases, so do not put this in your application or rely on it in any way. QA775 Not-tested for 1.0 Valid for 2.0
From: chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christian Musinszki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HyperSense Date: 2 Dec 1994 11:27:53 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3bn0bp$l0n@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hy, I am using HyperSense on NeXTStep, and would like to know if there are any HyperSense groups/fo rums out there in the universe. I am also interested to know of any HyperSense-Users so that I can directly discuss questions about HyperSense .... Thanks in advance (A lonely HyperSense user) Chris ... -- Chris Musinszki Tel. 06131/17 20 22 Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68 Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation (Uni versitaetskliniken Mainz) 55101 Mainz, Germany (email:chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de)rs so that I can directly discuss questions about HyperSense .... Thanks in advance (A lonely HyperSense user) Chris ... -- Chris Musinszki Tel. 06131/17 20 22 Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68 Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation (Uni
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Re: Changing ownership of a file... Message-ID: <edewD065JL.Jot@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <3bl5ae$3b2@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 05:50:08 GMT In article <3bl5ae$3b2@agate.berkeley.edu> john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) writes: >Can anyone tell me if there is a command that will change the >*ownership* of a file from 'me' to 'root'? > >Thanks. > >john@romdas.hip.berkeley.edu >NeXTmail OK. Open a terminal window, log in as root (su, rlogin root, etc.), then type 'chown root <file>' (or is it 'chown <file> root' ?) Or, go to tools/inspector and do the change there. On the other hand, since root can open any file, what's the point? EDEW
From: arnouilj@cedre.esiee.fr (Jean-Claude Arnouil) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 and NEXTIME for HPPA ... WHEN ??? Date: 2 Dec 1994 11:09:09 GMT Organization: Groupe ESIEE - PARIS Message-ID: <3bmv8l$ock@srv5.esiee.fr> Does I missed something ?? I did not see any announcement about NS 3.3 for HPPA, nor about NEXTIME. Now that every new application software is TRI-FAT, I'm sure a lot of people will buy NEXTSPEP/HPPA solutions. They are so cute, fast and not so expensive !!!! -- Jean-Claude Arnouil Unix Systems Administrator Ecole Superieure d'Electrotechnique et d'Electronique email: arnouilj@esiee.fr phone:(33 1)45.92.67.71 BP 99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand CEDEX - FRANCE
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT 2.88 SCSI floppy drive Date: 2 Dec 1994 11:23:38 GMT Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bn03q$1k0$1@heifetz.msen.com> References: <1994Nov29.161320.10216@sq.sq.com> > NeXTanswers 1484 (PLIFloppyInit) describes this problem. It seems > that you can't format a floppy from the Workspace Manager. (You'll > get the message "Cannot initialize disk. See console for errors.") I found that by replacing /usr/etc/disk with an older version, you acutally CAN format floppies from the Workspace in 3.2! Roland --------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Telfeyan NeXT/Mime Mail: roland@telf.com Telf Design Corp. Voice: +1 313 761 9590 310 Miller, Ann Arbor, MI 48103 Fax: +1 313 761 9890 ---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: Setting up NeXT as SLIP server Message-ID: <D05MFn.FBy@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Keywords: SLIP, Intel, server Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 22:57:23 GMT This may have been asked and answered before but I think the question is unique enough(?) to post. I would like to be able to either or both of two things: 1) set up my work machine (Intel running NS3.2) as a SLIP server(?), call it from my home computer (also an Intel/NS3.2 machine) using a modem, and be able to use OmniWeb to access data on the Web 2) call up my work machine from home, connect and get a login prompt on my machine at home but in reality actually logging in to my work machine. I vaguely remember this capability on earlier NeXT's but am not sure if it still exists. I would like to know if this can still be done with Intel machines running NS3.2 Any help on either or both of the above would be appreciated. Reply by email to the address below. Thanks in advance. Keith Salmon salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: Setting up NeXT as SLIP server Message-ID: <D05MGn.FJ1@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Keywords: SLIP, Intel, server Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 22:57:59 GMT This may have been asked and answered before but I think the question is unique enough(?) to post. I would like to be able to either or both of two things: 1) set up my work machine (Intel running NS3.2) as a SLIP server(?), call it from my home computer (also an Intel/NS3.2 machine) using a modem, and be able to use OmniWeb to access data on the Web 2) call up my work machine from home, connect and get a login prompt on my machine at home but in reality actually logging in to my work machine. I vaguely remember this capability on earlier NeXT's but am not sure if it still exists. I would like to know if this can still be done with Intel machines running NS3.2 Any help on either or both of the above would be appreciated. Reply by email to the address below. Thanks in advance. Keith Salmon salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: Connectivity Message-ID: <D05MK5.G8p@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 23:00:05 GMT This may have been asked and answered before but I think the question is unique enough(?) to post. I would like to be able to either or both of two things: 1) set up my work machine (Intel running NS3.2) as a SLIP server(?), call it from my home computer (also an Intel/NS3.2 machine) using a modem, and be able to use OmniWeb to access data on the Web 2) call up my work machine from home, connect and get a login prompt on my machine at home but in reality actually logging in to my work machine. I vaguely remember this capability on earlier NeXT's but am not sure if it still exists. I would like to know if this can still be done with Intel machines running NS3.2 Any help on either or both of the above would be appreciated. Reply by email to the address below. Thanks in advance. Keith Salmon salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
From: dario@osmin.cns.nyu.edu (Dario Ringach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where is msg_send_from_kernel() in NS3.2 ??? Date: 2 Dec 1994 14:19:27 GMT Organization: New York University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bnadf$l6@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Where is msg_send_from_kernel() defined in NS 3.2? I can't find it anywhere... Thanks in advance... -- Dario
From: kris@xmission.com (kris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newton Connection Kit under Executor on Next '040 Followup-To: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 2 Dec 1994 10:13:34 -0700 Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900) Message-ID: <3bnkju$7sf@xmission.xmission.com> References: <4iqvqS_SMUgEA14qYC@transarc.com> The last time I heard someone tried to run the Newton COnnection Kit under SoftPC, they were using the old 3.0 version. Now that Insignia has release SoftPC 4.0 with pseudo-enhanced mode, there's a much better chance that this would work. I'll load up my demo of SoftPC 4.0 and give it a shot with my MessagePad 110. Of course, this means that if it works, I'm obligated to purchase a license for myself. . . . ......................................kris Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com wrote: : Has anyone here tried to use Executor on black Next hardware to run : the Mac version of the NCK? How about SoftPC and the PC version (or : is that an MS-Windows version? Gack. I'm afraid to contemplate : running MSWindows under SoftPC on an '040.) -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Without LOVE, BEAUTY, or DANGER, it would almost be easy to live
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Faster mouse speeds? (MouseScaling) Date: 2 Dec 1994 20:23:34 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3bnvo6$od@rosie.next.com> References: <3bm922$k79@nic-nac.CSU.net> In article <KAOKI.94Nov27013423@hp02.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> ken@th.phys.titech.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) writes: >How do you adjust the mouse parameters beyond the 4 choices in >particular given by Preferences.app? There is a >NeXT1 MouseScaling dwrite which has the following 4 settings >corresponding to the 4 choices in Preferences.app, fastest at >the top. > >5 2 2 3 6 4 10 5 15 6 22 >5 2 2 3 4 4 6 5 8 6 10 >5 1 1 6 2 7 3 8 5 9 7 >1 1 1 > >There are 11 parameters. Does anybody know what each parameter >means? I looked around in DL, but couldn't find the relevant >entry. Also in the FAQ and in Nextanswers. Sorry if this is a >RTFM question. Let's take an example: % dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "5 2 2 3 4 4 6 5 8 6 10" dwrite is the command that lets one change the user's defaults database from the shell, but you knew that. NeXT1 indicates a particular implementation mechanism for system related parameters, so that if a new implementation is done someday, your old defaults will still work on old systems, and new system parameters will be used on new systems. MouseScaling indicates that the next parameter holds all the scaling information. The scaling parameters are a quoted string containing a count, and pairs of numbers indicating mouse rate and scaling. The first number, in this case "5", indicates the number of pairs that follow. Each pair contains a number indicating the number of pixels the mouse moved during the last sample interval, and a scale factor to be multiplied against the mouse X and Y position change during the last sample interval. We can decompose this example into the appropriate arrays as follows: int numScaleLevels = 5; // The first parameter int scaleThreshholds[] = { 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 }; int scaleFactors[] = { 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 }; When the event system receives a mouse motion event, it looks at the amount of mouse motion that has occurred in its last timing interval (roughly 0.014 seconds). That amount of motion, in pixels, is then compared to the first entry in the scaleThresholds array for the current mouse scaling. If the amount of mouse motion is greater than that threshold, it keeps going to the next entry in the thresholds array. Once the correct entry of the thresholds array is found, the event driver looks in the corresponding element of the scale factors array, found in the scaleFactors component of the structure. It then multiplies the mouse motion by that scale factor. For example, let the numScaleLevels component be 2, and the scaleThresholds array contain 3 and 6, and the scaleFactors array contain 2 and 4. Then, if the mouse moved by a cartesian distance of 4 pixels, it would get to the first element of the thresholds array (3), since it was less than second element (6). This would cause the driver to multiply the mouse motion by the corresponding scale factor, which in this case is 2. Thus the cursor would move twice as far as the mouse. Thus, the affect of mouse scaling is to cause the cursor to move nonlinearally faster than the mouse as both are speeded up. This is very useful on the large screen of a typical NEXTSTEP system. Scaling can be defeated using the following dwrite: % dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "1 1 1" This produces a single scaling entry which will not scale motion at all. The effect is similar to that produced by some X implementations. Mouse scaling parameters set using a dwrite do not take effect until the next time the user logs in. The Preferences app is able to make the selected scaling take effect immediately by using the NXSetMouseScaling() function of the EventStatusDriver API. More information on the EventStatusDriver and NXSetMouseScaling() can be found in: /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/ReleaseNotes/EventStatusDriver.rtf Warning: NeXT cannot guarantee the support of dwrites in future releases, so do not put this in your application or rely on it in any way. ====== I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal... mpaque@NeXT.COM NeXT business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please "It's a bad neighborhood, but the rent is cheap."
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Faster mouse speeds? (MouseScaling) Date: 2 Dec 1994 11:58:57 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412021758.AA11695@alleg.EDU> I have not had any luck changing the mouse speed by dwrite, even to and from settings which can be made from the Preferences.app I would like to know if anyone else has, and how. thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: signature in NewsGrazer (Release 2.0, v72.3) Date: 2 Dec 1994 20:54:33 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <3bo1i9$hqr@digdug.pencom.com> References: <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com> In article <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com> dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes: :Can someone tell me how to stop NewsGrazer from inserting my signature 2 times? : :I have a .signature file (ASCII text) in my home dir. : :When I have the "Ignore .sig file" preference on, it only inserts part of my signature :when I post (eg, look at the incomplete signature repeated at the end of this message). :If I leave the "Ignore .sig file" preference off, it inserts my full signature AND an :incomplete copy of my signature. : :Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? NewsGrazer isn't inserting it when you turn on "Ignore .sig"... Your news poster is doing the "partial insert" (probably "inews" -- which only appends the first 4 lines from your ".sig" file). You can specify a different news poster, or figure out which flag to send "inews" to make it stop appending your ".sig" (I don't have the "man" page handy...). -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES Date: 2 Dec 1994 19:21:01 -0500 Organization: Brooklyn College Message-ID: <3bodld$n70@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Hi all, here's a dumb question: I running NeXTStep 3.0 on a NeXTStation and i would like my login panel to bounce around when no one is logged in. I sometimes run really big jobs that go for 30 or 40 hours and i want to be able to logout and not have the login panel burn in. I have looked for hours and hours for info on how to do this in the on line documents. But to no avail. I know it is something like: % dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES But that didn't work. Anyone know how to do this? Many thanks, kevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright) Subject: RTF -> HTML Message-ID: <D078Au.ApC@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 19:47:18 GMT Does such a beast exist, or am I going to have to churn one out myself? While I'm pretty sure that something like eText could handle it, I need to be able to do it programmatically. thanx in advance jay
From: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com (Peter Lipps) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: multiple session photo cd support? Date: 2 Dec 1994 22:02:08 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3bo5h0$s4@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Dec1.115226.1387@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> In article <1994Dec1.115226.1387@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (G. A. Pohl) writes: > > IS anything known about handling multiple session photo cd by NeXTSTEP. > Recently I had to read a photo from a second record session - I didn t > found it! No way? Tools GmbH (info@tools.de) in Bonn, Germany, sells a CD XA CD-ROM driver as part of their PaperOut product (see also NEXTSTEP Third-Party catalog) which - among other things - addresses this. -Peter ______________________________ Peter Lipps Speaking for myself. "Mittelmass ist die Grundvoraussetzung fuer den Massenerfolg" (Wim Wenders) ______________________________ NeXT Computer Deutschland GmbH - Oskar-Messter-Str. 24, 85737 Ismaning, Germany InterNet: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com
From: EDW@cup.portal.com (Edward D Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RE: Mac to Next file port Date: 3 Dec 1994 00:01:54 -0800 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <128836@cup.portal.com> My thanks to the Next users who responded to my original post asking how to read a Mac text file on a Next Station with proper line feeds/returns. The most common response was to use the "tr" facility as either an executable script of line command input: For example ====cut here==== #!/bin/sh # mac2unix: convert CR to LF. # usage: mac2unix < macfile.txt > unixfile.txt tr '\015' '\012' ====cut here==== Put in /usr/local/bin and chmod 755 to make it executable. By reversing the 015 and 012 entries the user can make a unix2mac utility as well. I was also given the ftp address of an ftp site with an extensive Next library which contains a utility called Text_Convert which does what I needed and more. The address is ftp.ce.orst.edu . Finally I found that opening the Mac file with Mathematica and then saving it resulted in a properly formatted file. My thanks to all As always, Ed Wright NAVSOC wrighte@stmpgate.mugu.navy.mil
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT 2.88 SCSI floppy drive Date: 3 Dec 1994 08:22:06 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <3bp9re$32s@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <1994Nov25.171920.12142@sq.sq.com> <ERNEST.94Nov25192843@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> In article <ERNEST.94Nov25192843@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>, Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> wrote: >Just thought I'd share this. > >As you all know, there are only two drive bays on the original cube, for a >full-height optical drive and a full-height SCSI hard drive. However, >it is often much cheaper to get an internal floppy drive rather than >an external one. And the NeXT Cube motherboard (at least the '040 >non-turbo version) has a connector for a floppy which can provide >power for it. However, internal floppy drives are rather exposed, and >tend to have short cables. If you are one of those slightly new cubes, your machine will have 4 half-height drive bays inside. My machine was an original '030 cube, but it has 4 half-height bays. :-) RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ, University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and collector of titles.
From: djm@cyckam.nscl.msu.edu (DJMorrissey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: n diffs between NeXT and a Pentium? Date: 3 Dec 1994 13:31:55 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <3bps0b$lls@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3blofr$6cu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <3blofr$6cu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: #In article <1994Dec1.123551.392@titan.sfasu.edu> writes: #> #> Q: What are n differences between a NeXT and a Pentium machine? #> A: (1) You can buy parts for a Pentium machine. #> (2) You need to buy parts for a Pentium machine. # #(3) NeXT does long division. # # (4) A NeXTstation will run for hours after pushing one button. (5) You will have to work for hours to get NextStep to run on a Pentium. -- With Regards, Dave Morrissey [ Prof. D.J. Morrissey....................voice: 1-517-333-6321 ] [ Department of Chemistry and...............FAX: 1-517-353-5967 ] [ National Superconducting Cyclotron Lab........................]
From: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu (Costas Malamas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Has anybody written a unistd.h header file? Date: 3 Dec 1994 09:11:19 -0500 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bpua7$11e@acmey.gatech.edu> I am trying to compile a couple of packages (like f2c) in my school's NeXTs (NeXTStations running NS 3.0). However, they are complaining about missing the unistd.h file. As I understand this header file is not part of the NS distribution. I am wondering: has anyone written a unistd.h filr for NS? If so, where is it? If not, has anyone seen a port of f2c anywhere? Thanx in advance... -- costas malamas ________________________________________________________ OIT UA -- my opinions do not reflect those of OIT internet: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu engineers never lie; we just approximate the truth.
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Free/cheap and easy SLIP/CSLIP/PPP implimentation for NS/Intel?? Date: 3 Dec 1994 09:37:25 -0500 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu Message-ID: <3bpvr5$rh4@acmex.gatech.edu> The subject just about says it. I need to find a free or cheap version of SLIP, CSLIP, or PPP for my Nextstep/Intel box. I use the MUX serial driver for my internal 14.4 modem, but I'll probably pick up an external 28.8 modem to hook up to my built in serial card ("Com2"/port B, which is handled by the next provided driver right now). I'm about to get a free slip/cslip/ppp account from my job (working at an internet provider) (which protocol I use is up to me, so any of the above is fine, but I would expect cslip and ppp to be less likely to be free/cheap). I would like whatever it is to come with some good descriptions of how to install the software, as I don't know whether or not the simple network manager, etc, will work without an ethernet card. (The online docs are all still rather next-hardware specific, unfortunately). So, the more descriptive the better. Thanks John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.=============== AOL Tech Support: telephone the Internet and ask their tech support people.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dwagley@netcom.com (Doug Wagley) Subject: multi boot on object.station? Message-ID: <dwagleyD08spL.7uM@netcom.com> Followup-To: poster Keywords: Canon object multi Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 16:05:45 GMT Does anyone have any experience with adding other boot partitions on the new Canon machine? I have a need for DOS, Chicago, NT and NeXTstep... Thanks, Doug dwagley@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: jaffray@helix.uchicago.edu (Alan Jaffray) Subject: Serial port speed on NeXTStation? Message-ID: <jaffray.941203.120849.8418@helix.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: uchicago strn fanclub Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 18:08:52 GMT I want to use a USR Sportster 28.8 (v.34) with my NeXTStation. I've heard from one source that the serial port is limited to 19.2 kbps and that I'd need an adaptor to use the DSP port as a serial port in order to realize the full capacity of the modem; I've heard from another source that the serial port should go up to 100+ kbps without problems. Who's right? And if I need such an adaptor, where would I get it from?
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Which application is accessing .cshrc? Date: 3 Dec 1994 13:00:25 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412031859.AA17270@alleg.EDU> Sorry to be sort of repeating a question, but I didn't really ever find out what I needed to know and my hack has started to break down. Can anyone tell me how to find out what application is accessing my .cshrc? I need it to different things depending on which application is running it. I thought it might be something like if( ${?APPNAME} ) then .... endif where APPNAME might be Stuart, Terminal, RBRowser, GatorFTP, etc but that doesn't seem to be it. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Serial port speed on NeXTStation? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 3 Dec 1994 20:03:31 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <3bqiuj$qa4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <jaffray.941203.120849.8418@helix.uchicago.edu> Alan Jaffray (jaffray@helix.uchicago.edu) wrote: : I want to use a USR Sportster 28.8 (v.34) with my NeXTStation. I've : heard from one source that the serial port is limited to 19.2 kbps and Good that nobody told this to my serial port (NeXTStation, MC68040). :-) This is how it looks like if I am dialing from kermit manually (which is something which I do only for testing purposes): smok> kermit C-Kermit 5A(190), 4 Oct 94, for NeXTSTEP Copyright (C) 1985, 1994, Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York. Type ? or HELP for help. C-Kermit>c Connecting to /dev/cufa, speed 57600. The escape character is Ctrl-] (ASCII 29, GS) Type the escape character followed by C to get back, or followed by ? to see other options. atdt5555555 RINGING CONNECT 57600/V32b 14400/V42b A modem attached to /dev/cufa happens to be ZyXEL. Obvioulsy I added required entries in /etc/gettytab and /etc/ttys. Hardware flow control (/dev/cuf?) is really needed for anything which talks faster than 9600. I think that your source mixed things up with Intel hardware. How high you can go there very much depends on a kind of UART chip employed (and a serial port driver software). : to realize the full capacity of the modem; I've heard from another : source that the serial port should go up to 100+ kbps without problems. : heard from one source that the serial port is limited to 19.2 kbps and I did not try 115200, so I do not know. In theory you modem may compress with 4:1 ratio, so you need computer/modem link four time faster than your highest possible line speed. In practice I have never seen hardware compression ratios higher than about 2. Take your pick. :-) Michal
Newsgroups: comp.lang.objective-c,comp.sys.next.misc From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: Re: NeXT/Objective C book recommendations? Message-ID: <1994Dec4.055558.19932@news.vanderbilt.edu> Followup-To: comp.lang.objective-c,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT References: <m0rAUx5-001O5yC@kitana> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 05:55:58 GMT JL Gomez (kitana!sysop@caprica.com) wrote: : Can anyone else recommend anymore NeXT/Objective C books to : add to my library? This is preparation for NSi 3.3. :) : I've got the following books: : OOP & The Objective C Language, NeXT Computer Inc. : NeXTSTEP Programming: Concepts and Applications, Alex Ngiem : OOP: AN Evolutionary Approach, Cox & Novobilski : The Complete Guide to the NeXTSTEP Environment, Michael Shebanek : NeXTSTEP Programming Step One: O-O Applications, Garfinkel & Mahoney : -- : sysop@kitana.org Objective-C Object-Oriented Programming Techniques ISBN 0-201-50828-1 Projects in Scientific Computation (Richard E. Crandall) ISBN 0-387-97808-9 -- Thomas Katzlberger katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com> Subject: bMD Mail Bouncing Message-ID: <1994Dec4.015600.26796@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 01:56:00 GMT benchMark Developments mail is currently being bounced by one of our network providers. Please hold those emails until this can be corrected and pass the note around if necessary. If you need to get ahold of us, try give us a ring at one of the phone numbers below. Thanks Sincerely, Neil Greene --------------- benchMark Developments, Inc. 11970 Charter Oak Parkway, St Louis MO 63146 Phone: 314-872-2907 / 800-872-3131 Email: Neil@bMD.com [NeXT/Mime mail accepted]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next From: hmo@sep.hamburg.com (Helge Oldach) Subject: Re: ISDN Message-ID: <D094Ix.LMt@sep.hamburg.com> Sender: he@sep.hamburg.com (Helge Oldach) Organization: Somebody Else's Problem References: <schulz.94Dec1104217@gecko03> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 20:20:56 GMT schulz@biw.cube.de writes: | Is there a way to connect an ISDN card to a NeXT PC? There is no problem connecting a card to a PC. The problem is the unavailability of drivers for NeXT. To the best of my knowledge, no manufacturer has considered writing a NeXT driver. Well, actually a few manufacturers I know of have considered but then abandoned providing a NeXT driver. | Is there a way to connect an ISDN modem to the serial port of a NeXT PC? Yes. Use a serial cable. | Is there a way to connect an ISDN card or modem with a notebook? | (PCMCIA, serial port......) Yes. Use a PCMCIA/ISDN card or a serial cable, respectively. | Any experiences? Yes. Works fine. -- hmo@sep.hamburg.com Fazer auf Betäubung!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Kernel Panic: Ghostscript + HP DeskJet 540 Message-ID: <D0AFIo.6q6@tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 13:16:00 GMT Don't know WHAT exactly the problem is (ghostscript or what), but if I print a TIFF or multi-page PS, I consistantly get a kernel panic ('c' to continue, 'r' to restart).... I have (on intel) the new parallel driver (1.1), ghostscript 2.6.1 + 4 patches, and HPDJ0.2 installed. I also use the Mux 1.5 driver, but I doubt that has anything to do with it... Thinking hardware was a prob (everything worked under DOS, but hey, what the hell), I replaced my I/O card with a Boca....same thing... One wrinkle, I suppose, is that I have the new HP DeskJet 540C (which is supposed to be 100% DeskJet 550C compatible...could the bi-directional communication be screwing me up? Any size RTF prints fine, as does plain text, but the large bitmaps seem to give the kernel panic... Any thoughts? Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: PPP 2.6.1 Works Great!! Message-ID: <D0AG49.6rH@tor.hookup.net> Sender: root@tor.hookup.net (Operator) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 13:28:57 GMT Just installed (talk about painless!!) The latest PPP package can always be found at ftp.duq.edu in /pub/next/ppp. The newest version there now is PPP-2.2-0.1.6-pkg.tar.gz and you also need to get the serial Mux driver to fix a bug with the NeXT serial port driver... For anyone who hasn't tried this package yet, do it! If you're running SLIP currently, there's even LESS to do (fill in the blanks in one script and link a couple of files!!) Here's my script for a ZyXEL U1496E (I may have overkill in the modem setup string, but I took it from my ZyXEL SLIP dial script): ----cut here ---- #!/bin/sh # -*- Fundamental -*- # # kdebug 1 is SC_DEBUG # 2 is SC_LOG_INPKT # 4 is SC_LOG_OUTPKT # 8 is SC_LOG_RAWIN # 16 is SC_LOG_FLUSH # # add together to get debugging you want # Remember: for HW flow control you must you /dev/cufa or /dev/cufb # # # This is an example that dials a modem, logs into a remote Annex # terminal server and starts ppp. # exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 mtu 1006 lcp-echo-interval 15 \ lcp-echo-failure 5 crtscts defaultroute debug modem -pap -chap \ connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" "ATZ0L1M0+FCLASS=0S42.1=0S38.3=1S38.5=1S2=128S46.2=1&K4&N0M0V1Q0X5&C1&D3&H 3&J0&L0&M0&R1&S0N1" "OK" ATDT6300970 TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT "" ogin: yourid assword: yourpassword choice: 3' \ /dev/cufb 57600 lock ----cut here ---- Note that specification of your IP, the remote IP, netmask, etc, etc, IS NOT NECESSARY with PPP! (unless you have special circumstances or just want to do it anyway)...the protocol figures that out at connection! (Sorry, I've got the "PPP NEWBIE" willies :) Giver poop! Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PPP 2.6.1 Works Great!! Date: 4 Dec 1994 19:59:56 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bt73s$efd@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article <D0AG49.6rH@tor.hookup.net> damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) writes: > > Just installed (talk about painless!!) > > The latest PPP package can always be found at ftp.duq.edu in > /pub/next/ppp. The newest version there now is > PPP-2.2-0.1.6-pkg.tar.gz and you also need to get the serial Mux > driver to fix a bug with the NeXT serial port driver... > > For anyone who hasn't tried this package yet, do it! If you're running > SLIP currently, there's even LESS to do (fill in the blanks in > one script and link a couple of files!!) I thought it necessary to follow up and note that PPP-2.2 is still in alpha release. However, the NeXT port of this code is very stable. The NeXT port will remain in alpha stage as long as the PPP-2.2 remains in that stage. Then, the NeXT port will follow the stages of PPP-2.2. Because of this, please note: If you run into any problem with the work, please email me (perkins@cps.msu.edu) _before_ you email usenet. This includes potential bugs as well as general configuration questions. Since the work is _alpha_, the source files for the code are encyrpted. This is only a precaution so that users will understand the status of the work before they try to use it. If you have more questions, please refer to: ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/README - Steve P.S. Thanks for the plug Damon! P.P.S. PPP works with the standard NeXT serial driver as well. It just works better with MuX. -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Department of Computer Science | Michigan State University | NS/FIP OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: pait@lac.usp.br (Felipe M. Pait) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: printing from Texview in an HP printer, NeXT/Sun floppies Date: 4 Dec 1994 19:23:35 GMT Organization: Universidade de Sao Paulo / Brasil Message-ID: <3bt4vn$a0b@bee.uspnet.usp.br> I often get very poor quality printouts when I print from TeXview to an HP III postscript printer. The printer is attached to a dos machine which is not networked, not to the NeXT, so I have to print the ps file to a dos floppy and use the sneakernet. But I don't see how that could change things. Print quality seems better when I do the same thing from a Sun, I can't figure out what is wrong. Also, what is the state of the art way of using NeXT floppies in Sparcstations and vice versa? The documentation in NS 3.2 FIP says it is not possible to use filesystems, and indeed NeXT can't read Sun-formatted floppies or vice versa. Is there a way around this? Thanks, Felipe M Pait
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: d'Art's electonic contact address Date: 4 Dec 1994 20:28:43 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bt8pr$eg2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> I have a demo version of d'ART's dater.app. Does anybody know of an electronic contact address for them? - Steve -- ==================================================================== Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu Department of Computer Science | Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: tm8025a@american.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES Date: 5 Dec 1994 01:51:29 GMT Organization: The American University, Washington DC Message-ID: <3btrn1$onb@paladin.american.edu> References: <3bodld$n70@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> In article <3bodld$n70@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music) writes: :Hi all, : :here's a dumb question: : :I running NeXTStep 3.0 on a NeXTStation and i would like my login panel to :bounce around when no one is logged in. I sometimes run really big jobs that :go for 30 or 40 hours and i want to be able to logout and not have the login panel :burn in. : :I have looked for hours and hours for info on how to do this in the on line documents. :But to no avail. I know it is something like: : : % dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES : :But that didn't work. Anyone know how to do this? : :Many thanks, : : :kevin Not really a dumb question but it is in the FAQ. I suggest picking it up. Lots of good stuff in there. You also have to include the following dwrites. I am not sure what the actual numbers represent but you can find that in the FAQ. These numbers give a reasonable movement but nothing really speedy. loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES loginwindow MovementRate 0.05 loginwindow MovementScale 3 loginwindow MovementTimeout 60.0 Hope this helps Torrey McMahon
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: best/fastest modem for black hdw.? Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 20:31:51 -0600 Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.941204202950.12738G-100000@pear> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, all! I was wondering if I could get a poll of recommendations for the best or fastest modem that will work with black hardware. I currently have a NeXTstation turbo color, 406mb internal running NS 3.0 (can/will upgrade to 3.2 soon). Secondary Q: what SLIP or PPP program can I use to connect to my NeXT network at the University? Thanks for the consideration! Hussain ___ __________________________________________________________ /\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy \/__/ NEXTSTEP, hussain@artsci.wustl.edu baby http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/
From: black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: GEKKO SYSTEMS Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 06:45:00 GMT Message-ID: <941205023116337@btf.com> Organization: BTF BBS, San Jose Ca. 408-363-9766 Distribution: world References: <AilEI2_00iUxI2i5VL@andrew.cmu.edu> II> > that's quite true, in order to have a decent system you definitly II> need 64 mo, > as any risc computer binaries are much bigger. II> Huh? This has probably been answered elsewere, but actually no. A developer posted sizes of the exicutables for an app for Motorola, Intel, and HP. The file sizes were about the same, less than 10% spread. In theory, the fact that all instructions on the typical risc machine are 32 bits long, vs the variable length of cisc makes risc bigger. In practice, no. Lots of other factors, etc. Ronald Pottol * RM 1.3 * Eval Day 118 * Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
From: mfurey@kean.ucs.mun.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Nextstep Date: 5 Dec 94 09:34:48 -0330 Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada Message-ID: <1994Dec5.093448.1@leif> What is best hardware configuaration for running Nextstep? ...the Canon Objectstation.41 is what we are considering! Anyone have any suggestions or comments?
From: robvale@bighorn.accessnv.com (Robert Vale) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Black Hardware Repair Date: 5 Dec 1994 05:35:40 -0800 Organization: accessnv.com Message-ID: <3bv4vc$it8@bighorn.accessnv.com> My NeXTdimension board is not booting and generates and error message of: DRAM test 1 failed in bank 0 at 0x291b130c; bad bits 0x00002000. Anyone know whats wrong? how I can repair this or what company is doing the black repairs now? Please email me. Thanks in advance!
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,alt.cascade Subject: Re: TIOCGPGRP? Message-ID: <D03BBr.Bqs@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 17:02:15 GMT References: <9411291830.AA03929@cantina.lanl.gov> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: >In the Re: FlexFax thread, Mark Salyzyn wrote >> ...and am still dealing with a TIOCGPGRP ... >TIOCGPGRP? That's not even a TLA (three-letter acronym)! Thats because its a Double Extended Three Letter Acronym (DBLEXTTLA). But seriously folks, does anyone here have a clue as to how NeXT managed to get all the Process Group functions to operate correctly for ptys, but have managed to fail to handle them correctly in the standard line discipline access within the drivers (both in SerialPorts, and in my Mux serial driver). Ciao -- Mark
From: Rene.Kulschewski@rkt.in-berlin.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Serial port speed on NeXTStation? Date: 5 Dec 1994 06:52:28 GMT Organization: The Fair Affair Distribution: world Message-ID: <3budbc$4nd@rkt.in-berlin.de> References: <3bqiuj$qa4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <3bqiuj$qa4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) writes: > I did not try 115200, so I do not know. Look at /usr/include/bsd/sys/ttydev.h. As you can see, 57600 bps is the max. supported speed. Regards Rene' -- ____________________________________________________________________________ <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Where can I get a turbo slab fixed? Date: 5 Dec 1994 16:04:32 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <3bvdmg$2np@hermes.dna.mci.com> Hello there: My primary NeXT will not power on and I would like to know where I can get the turbo slab fixed. For months now, I haven't been able to turn it off or reboot (Command ~ and Command Command ~ didn't work - neither did the various buttons on the login panel). Once the swapfile became uncontrollable, I physically pulled the plug to turn off the machine. Well, my sins have caught up with me. This turbo slab now won't even power on. I would appreciate any of the following info: 1. Where can I find a place to service this? 2. If it's the power supply, is it something which I can do myself? Any other relevant info would be appreciated. Thanks, Alex
news2.near.net!das-news2.harvard.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,alt.cascade,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: TIOCGPGRP? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 10:38:43 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <YisnE3G00WBM83L18P@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <D03BBr.Bqs@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 30-Nov-94 Re: TIOCGPGRP? by Mark Gregory Salyzyn@ve6 > But seriously folks, does anyone here have a clue as to how NeXT managed to > get all the Process Group functions to operate correctly for ptys, but have > managed to fail to handle them correctly in the standard line discipline > access within the drivers (both in SerialPorts, and in my Mux serial driver). Does NeXT know that there is a problem? Did you send a bug report to bug_next@next.com, hopefully with a minimal test program to demonstrate the problem? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Rene.Kulschewski@rkt.in-berlin.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Please help: Cube freezes ! Date: 5 Dec 1994 18:18:45 GMT Organization: The Fair Affair Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bvli5$134@rkt.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a big problem with a Cube (40MB RAM, Dimension with 20MB RAM, NS 3.2). Sometimes the machine simply "freezes", sometimes it gets a kernel panic with different messages: eg. "illegal instruction", "Cpu (0) fp is not one", "Unexpected kernel page fault failure" etc. I've done a new installation, i changed the RAM, the disk drive and all cables, no success... What can I do ? I'm pretty sure that's a hardware failure, but how can i check out the faulty part ? If i press "p" at the boot prompt, there is a option "boot extended diagnostics". Where can i get these tools ? Thanks Rene' -- ____________________________________________________________________________ <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sybase on NS Intel? Date: 5 Dec 1994 16:58:37 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <3bvgrt$3bm@hermes.dna.mci.com> Hello there; The 3rd Party Catalog indicates that Sybase is available for NS Intel but I've yet to encounter anybody who's using it on Intel. Does anybody know what the story is? Any info would be appreciated. Please e-mail me directly since our news feed has been acting up lately. Thanks, Alex
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Where can I get a turbo slab fixed? Date: 5 Dec 1994 16:11:39 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <3bve3r$2qn@hermes.dna.mci.com> References: <3bvdmg$2np@hermes.dna.mci.com> In article <3bvdmg$2np@hermes.dna.mci.com>, Alex Nghiem <alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com> wrote: >Hello there: > >My primary NeXT will not power on and I would like to know where I can get >the turbo slab fixed. For months now, I haven't been able to turn it off >or reboot (Command ~ and Command Command ~ didn't work - neither did the >various buttons on the login panel). Once the swapfile became uncontrollable, >I physically pulled the plug to turn off the machine. > >Well, my sins have caught up with me. This turbo slab now won't even power >on. I would appreciate any of the following info: > >1. Where can I find a place to service this? >2. If it's the power supply, is it something which I can do myself? > >Any other relevant info would be appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Alex > Sorry I forgot to mention that our newserver has been acting up. Please e-mail me directly since I doubt if this is of interest to anybody else. Sorry for the extra bandwith, Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dmitri@cs.mun.ca (Dmitri Gerchikov) Subject: vax Message-ID: <1994Dec2.202752.5322@cs.mun.ca> Summary: Looking for help Keywords: help I am looking for manuals or any info on VAX DATATREAVE and on My E-mail adress is dmitri@ganymede.cs.mun.ca Thank you very much. Dmitri. Sender: usenet@cs.mun.ca (NNTP server account) Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 20:27:52 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: kyleh@cs.mun.ca (Kyle Douglas Hearfield) Subject: any NeXTStep Publications? Message-ID: <1994Dec4.165007.2219@cs.mun.ca> Sender: usenet@cs.mun.ca (NNTP server account) Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 16:50:07 GMT I am looking for subscription information to any NeXTStep Publications. if you could provide me with an address and number of any I would be very Thankful! Thanks in Advance, Kyle. -- "You might as well pay attention because you can't afford free speech." -George Clinton. ______________________________________________________________________________ Kyle Douglas Hearfield Kyleh@europa.cs.mun.ca
From: jmcnamar@onramp.net (Jason McNamara) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: d'Art's electonic contact address Date: 5 Dec 1994 18:51:24 GMT Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bvnfc$ps9@news.onramp.net> References: <3bt8pr$eg2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article <3bt8pr$eg2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins) writes: + +I have a demo version of d'ART's dater.app. Does anybody know of an +electronic contact address for them? + +- Steve Your best bet is Goetz Arntzen (goetz@dart.de), though info@dart.de will also work. Jason McNamara jmcnamar@onramp.net +-- +==================================================================== +Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu +Department of Computer Science | +Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: msm@simstim (Mark S Mertel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Electronic Street Maps Date: 5 Dec 1994 18:14:32 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <3bvla8$h88@digdug.pencom.com> Greetings, I'm looking for a good source of map images of various cities and locales. Next readable format is prefered. Thanks in advance -- Mark Mertel Email: msm@pencom.com Pencom Software Phone: (512) 343-6666 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy. N. FAX: (512) 343-9650 Austin, TX 78759
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Next sighting heard Message-ID: <1994Dec5.190733.23972@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics Date: Mon, 5 Dec 94 19:07:33 GMT I couldn't resist this. Driving in to work this morning I was listening to an NPR story about the new wiretapping law and related matters. There was an interview with Simson Garfinkle who was talking about encryption. At one point he was demonstrating how to send encrypted e-mail and he mad a mistake. You could hear the click-click-click of the keyboard (obviously a NeXT ;^) ) and then the unmistakable "point" system beep! This must rate as the best NeXT sighting in some category or another, right? Mike -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Re: Next sighting heard Message-ID: <1994Dec5.193335.24321@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics References: <1994Dec5.190733.23972@galois.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 94 19:33:35 GMT oops, bad spelling. Guess everyone is making mistakes today! In article <1994Dec5.190733.23972@galois.mit.edu>, Michael J. Hopkins <mjh@math.mit.edu> wrote: > >I couldn't resist this. > >Driving in to work this morning I was listening to an NPR story about >the new wiretapping law and related matters. There was an interview >with Simson Garfinkle who was talking about encryption. At one point >he was demonstrating how to send encrypted e-mail and he mad a ^^^ made >mistake. You could hear the click-click-click of the keyboard >(obviously a NeXT ;^) ) and then the unmistakable "point" system beep! ^^^^ poit > >This must rate as the best NeXT sighting in some category or another, >right? > >Mike > >-- >----------------------------------- >Mike Hopkins >mjh@math.mit.edu >----------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: printing from Texview in an HP printer, NeXT/Sun floppies Date: 5 Dec 1994 22:21:51 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c03pv$nno@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <3bt4vn$a0b@bee.uspnet.usp.br> In article <3bt4vn$a0b@bee.uspnet.usp.br> pait@lac.usp.br (Felipe M. Pait) writes: > I often get very poor quality printouts when I print from TeXview to an HP > III postscript printer. The printer is attached to a dos machine which is > not networked, not to the NeXT, so I have to print the ps file to a dos > floppy and use the sneakernet. But I don't see how that could change > things. Print quality seems better when I do the same thing from a Sun, I > can't figure out what is wrong. Check the resolution of the DVI file you are producing. If it is at 400 DPI (for example) and the HP is expecting 300 DPI, it will look very jagged. Change your /NextLibrary/TeX/tex/ps/config.ps to correct the resolution. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com (Jeff Wishnie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NEXT INC. stock quotes ? Date: 5 Dec 1994 16:27:34 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <3bvf1m$g8d@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> References: <3bchr7$247@news.blkbox.com> > > In order for NeXT to go public, they'd need to put together a couple of > profitable quarters. HA! This was there biggest mistake! None of the new SilliValley companies wait for a profit! Heck, most don't even wait for a product. How much did GeneralMagic get when they went public about 1 year before ship? Or how about 3DO? NeXT never should have waited. They should have gone public the day after Steve announced he was starting a new company. Jeff Wishnie jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: d'Art's electonic contact address References: <3bt8pr$eg2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 08:54:09 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec5.085409.11652@proximus.north.de> In article <3bt8pr$eg2@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@cps.msu.edu> wrote: > >I have a demo version of d'ART's dater.app. Does anybody know of an >electronic contact address for them? d'ART Hamburg Computersysteme GmbH info@dart.de +49-40-380 23 0 +49-40-380 23 290 (fax) Virchowstraûe 17-19 22767 Hamburg Deutschland d'ART Kiel Computersysteme GmbH dartki@dart.de Wilfried Beeck <wbeeck@dart.de> +49-431-92 32 3 +49-431-92 39 3 (fax) Fleethörn 23 24103 Kiel Deutschland Gerhard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: How is your experience with Bell Atlantic refurbished monitors? Message-ID: <1994Dec5.211347.18315@rna.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.nl Organization: G.R.O.S.S. Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 21:13:47 GMT Subject says it all. BA sells these (new CRT). I'd like your experience with these. Are they 'as good as new'? Thanks, -- gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Idle musings (Was: Re: NEXT INC. stock quotes ?) Date: 5 Dec 1994 22:23:02 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c03s6$5fg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3bvf1m$g8d@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> In article <3bvf1m$g8d@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com (Jeff Wishnie) writes: > > > > > In order for NeXT to go public, they'd need to put together a couple of > > profitable quarters. > > HA! This was there biggest mistake! None of the new SilliValley companies > wait for a profit! Heck, most don't even wait for a product. How much did > GeneralMagic get when they went public about 1 year before ship? Or how > about 3DO? > > NeXT never should have waited. They should have gone public the day after > Steve announced he was starting a new company. Hmmm...aren't there a lot of ex-NeXTies at General Magic? (Played with a Sony Magic Link the other day -- Extremely Cool. I want one and an NS interface to it!) Also, isn't 3DO just down the street? -- -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Ste. 201, Champaign, IL, 61820 "Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Gilad Ehven <b6933873@mail.wsu.edu> Subject: Please Help: User's Group in Kuwait Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.90.941204180547.29798A-100000@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Organization: Washington State University Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 02:14:26 GMT Greetings! Can anyone out there help me and my friend find the address and contact information for the user's group in Kuwait? We have no current information, and would appreciate any assistance you can provide. Also, does anyone out there know about the extent to which NeXT is used in Kuwait? Are there also other services for NeXT users in Kuwait other than the user's group? In advance -- THANKS! [Please feel free to e-mail me with any information you may have.]
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Faster mouse speeds? (MouseScaling) Date: 5 Dec 1994 20:21:01 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <3bvsnd$11d@rosie.next.com> References: <9412021758.AA11695@alleg.EDU> In article <9412021758.AA11695@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: > I have not had any luck changing the mouse speed by dwrite, even to > and from settings which can be made from the Preferences.app > > I would like to know if anyone else has, and how. Changes made using the dwrite mechanism don't take effect until you log out and log back in. The Preferences app makes the changes take effect immediately by using the low level Event Status Driver API in addition to updating the defaults database. See /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/ReleaseNotes/EventStatusDriver.rtf for details. -- I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal... mpaque@NeXT.COM NeXT business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please "It's a bad neighborhood, but the rent is cheap."
From: tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: signature in NewsGrazer (Release 2.0, v72.3) Date: 05 Dec 1994 21:38:31 GMT Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Center Line, MI Message-ID: <TMS.94Dec5163831@litespeed.cfc.com> References: <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com> In-reply-to: dino@blackmaus.com's message of Mon, 28 Nov 1994 07:43:34 GMT In article <Czyw4n.28p@blackmaus.com>, dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes: >Can someone tell me how to stop NewsGrazer from inserting my signature 2 times? >I have a .signature file (ASCII text) in my home dir. >When I have the "Ignore .sig file" preference on, it only inserts part of my signature >when I post (eg, look at the incomplete signature repeated at the end of this message). >If I leave the "Ignore .sig file" preference off, it inserts my full signature AND an >incomplete copy of my signature. >Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? This is no bug. NG is putting in one sig and your news software (probably cnews) is putting in the other. The second one is truncated at four lines because cnews is following the generally acceped four-line signature limit. Todd -- _____ __ __ ____ Todd M. Swan - Chrysler Financial, Center Line, MI |_ _| \/ | ___| tms@cfc.com (NeXTmail) | | | |__ | The flame at the heart of a pawnbroker's diamond |_| |_|\/|_|____| is a cold fire. - Rush
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gerti@BITart.com (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Faster mouse speeds? (MouseScaling) Message-ID: <D0DLBz.GM7@BITart.com> Sender: usenet@BITart.com Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting References: <3bvsnd$11d@rosie.next.com> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 06:14:23 GMT Since that topic is around: A while ago I wrote a preferences module to manipulate the mouse scaling on a graphical way, so I finally decided to put it on THE NET. From the README: GKMouseScaler is a Preferences module with the following features: - Graphically modify the 'Mouse speed' with direct feedback - Set a default paper format - Set Dock to left or right side of screen It is available at: arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/pre ferences/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz (It might take a while to migrate to that destination) ftp.cs.orst.edu:/software/NeXT/submissions/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar gz (It might disappear to a more appropriate place) Have fun! gerti
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: scott@cocacola.whoi.edu (Scott A. McIntyre) Subject: 3.3 Ordering? Message-ID: <scott.786718396@cocacola> Sender: news@netnews.whoi.edu Organization: Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 12:53:16 GMT Whom do I phone to get 3.3 at the best price (I seem to recall there isn't an academic discount...)? Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: kevins@bmd.com Subject: NS driver for ATI mach64 with 4meg Message-ID: <1994Dec6.145934.2794@bMD.com> Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 14:59:34 GMT Is there a driver avail for this card? --- Kevin Solie Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc. Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
From: root@moses (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: ISDN Date: 7 Dec 1994 00:04:03 GMT Organization: Heinrich Heine Universitaet Duesseldorf Message-ID: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Well, actually a few manufacturers I know of have considered but then >abandoned providing a NeXT driver. Ich habe auf der Messe letzte Woche mit einem Entwickler von Miro ueber das Thema Treiber fuer NSI gesprochen. Er bestaetigte mir, dass eine Entwicklung im Bereich des moeglichen waere, nur bisher noch keine Anfragen bestehen wuerden. Also schreibt mal eure Meinung (Er liest diese group). Gruss Markus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: agordon@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Aaron Gordon) Subject: Re: How is your experience with Bell Atlantic refurbished monitors? Message-ID: <1994Dec6.183320.83973@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 18:33:20 GMT References: <1994Dec5.211347.18315@rna.nl> Organization: Colorado School of Mines Gerben Wierda (gerben@rna.nl) wrote: : Subject says it all. BA sells these (new CRT). I'd like your experience with : these. Are they 'as good as new'? : Thanks, I got a monitor from them a couple of months ago and it seems to be doing fine. However, when I talked to them on the phone they quoted me a price and said it covered everything including shipping. It didn't. I had to pay for shipping the old monitor back and I had to pay sales tax since they have an office in every state. I would have considered getting one from Dancing Bear whose price was cheaper but may not have included any shipping. I picked Bell Atlantic because Dancing Bear was moving and all of their inventory was in transit. To reach Dancing Bear try: tim@dancingbear.com (NeXT MAIL Accepted) 800-221-2217 808-875-2455 808-874-3650 fax And, of course, Bell Atlantic is at: 800-499-6398. Good Luck, Aaron Gordon
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: All Usernames Date: 6 Dec 1994 15:59:43 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412062159.AA16558@alleg.EDU> is there a way I can find a list of all the usernames on our system? No I am _not_ going to use this for some mass-mailing program. Used to be able to find it in a roundabout way by checking all the listings in /usr/spool/mail, but the NeXT changed things so that only people who have mail waiting have an entry in /usr/spool/mail thanks ia! TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu (Costas Malamas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mouse Settings (Re: Faster mouse speeds? (MouseScaling)) Date: 6 Dec 1994 17:01:39 -0500 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu Message-ID: <3c2n03$54@acmey.gatech.edu> In article <3bvsnd$11d@rosie.next.com>, Mike Paquette <mpaque@next.com> wrote: >In article <9412021758.AA11695@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) >writes: >> I have not had any luck changing the mouse speed by dwrite, even to >> and from settings which can be made from the Preferences.app >> >> I would like to know if anyone else has, and how. > >Changes made using the dwrite mechanism don't take effect until you log >out and log back in. The Preferences app makes the changes take effect >immediately by using the low level Event Status Driver API in addition to >updating the defaults database. See > /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/ReleaseNotes/EventStatusDriver.rtf >for details. This made me think of a problem in our site; when our NeXTs were installed, something got screwed up: as a result, the Menu Button preference is never saved; you have to re-select it every time you log in. Any ideas why this is happening? Any workarounds? (like, e.g. a command-line that can be appended to the .profile/.login and enable the Menu Button?). Re-installation is not an alternative, since I do not have root access and the people that do, do not consider it a major problem... Thanx in advance... -- costas malamas ________________________________________________________ OIT UA -- my opinions do not reflect those of OIT internet: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu engineers never lie; we just approximate the truth.
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How is your experience with Bell Atlantic refurbished monitors? Date: 6 Dec 1994 23:40:14 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <3c2sou$bd6@news.service.uci.edu> References: <1994Dec5.211347.18315@rna.nl> <1994Dec6.183320.83973@slate.mines.colorado.edu> I had a good experience with Bell Atlantic as well. I, too, would have gone with dancingbear, but they wanted the monitor *First*, and I was not willing to take the downtime. They may have changed their policy on that by now, though. Kurt
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: any NeXTStep Publications? Date: 6 Dec 1994 16:45:22 -0600 Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3c2pi2$o11@crchh78b.bnr.ca> References: <1994Dec4.165007.2219@cs.mun.ca> In article <1994Dec4.165007.2219@cs.mun.ca>, Kyle Douglas Hearfield <kyleh@cs.mun.ca> wrote: >I am looking for subscription information to any NeXTStep Publications. >if you could provide me with an address and number of any I would be very >Thankful! Here's is one magazine, NEXT IN LINE. This is part of their post from a while ago. I am pretty sure that you cannot use their e-mail addresses for subscriptions anymore. You must write to them. ======================================================================== For further information, or to subscribe, please contact: NEXT IN LINE Subscriptions P.O. Box 392 Berryville, VA 22611 nil-subscriptions@abstractsoft.com For advertising information and current rates, please contact: NEXT IN LINE Advertising P.O. Box 392 Berryville, VA 22611 nil-advertising@abstractsoft.com For submission guidelines and information, please contact: NEXT IN LINE Submissions P.O. Box 392 Berryville, VA 22611 nil-submissions@abstractsoft.com -- NEXT IN LINE is a monthly publication serving the NEXTSTEP community. Its purpose is to provide NEXTSTEP users with a reliable forum for the expression of ideas on NEXTSTEP use, the announcement of important NEXTSTEP-related events, and the dissemination of fair and impartial information on NEXTSTEP products. NEXT IN LINE is published monthly by PUBLISHING 51 and has no affiliation with NeXT, Inc., nor with any other business interest. NeXT and NEXTSTEP are registered trademarks of NeXT Computer, Inc., Redwood City, CA. ============================================================================ ============================= Mike Shandony Bell-Northern Research, Inc. vanhalen@bnr.ca ================================== The opinions expressed are my own. ==================================
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Faster mouse speeds? (MouseScaling) Date: 6 Dec 1994 19:11:17 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412070111.AA26341@alleg.EDU> Changes made using the dwrite mechanism don't take effect until you log out and log back in. or (with some apps) restart the app Preferences app makes the changes take effect immediately by using the low level Event Status Driver API in addition to updating the defaults database. you lost me after "the low level" I'm one of those people who still wonders how my email gets from here to there. If someone asked me how, I'd say "I click on Deliver, it goes away and then nyphs grab it and stick it on the other person's machine." See /NextLibrary/ Documentation/ NextDev/ ReleaseNotes/ /EventStatusDriver.rtf First of all, this presumes I have a NeXTDeveloper kit, which not everyone does. I have access to such a system, and read the file, and it started talking about some weird pagan rituals or something, either that or it was programming language. I use my NeXT because I don't want to mess with all that computer stuff, with some minor exceptions. thanks for the response... please don't take my humor as a slight, it was brought on by sleep deprivation, TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 13:24:09 -0800 From: Peter Langston <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com> Message-ID: <9412062124.AA04529@pud> Subject: Need more control of the SavePanel Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com I want to use the SavePanel to select destinations for storing data. Often the destination will be a pre-existing file, in which case I offer the user the option of replacing the contents or appending to them. Unfortunately, before SavePanel returns control to me, it pops up an Alert panel that offers options of "replace" & "cancel." This means the user must choose "replace" in order to be able to choose "append" later from my panel. I had hopes that if I had a delegate responded to the methods panelValidateFilenames: and/or panel:filterFile:inDirectory: then the alert panel would be overridden, but no such luck.* I understand that I could subclass SavePanel and provide my own ok: method. But that would require reinventing a bunch of processing that goes on in there since I'm not just adding something (in which case I could call [super ok:] somewhere). Has anyone found a way around the replace/cancel alert panel? I checked MiscKit and there appears to be nothing there... Peter ---------- Peter Langston -- psl@acm.org -- Seattle, WA ---------- __________________ * Incidentally, the doc (in 3.2) for the panel:filterFile:inDirectory: method incorrectly implies that it is called after the selection is made. The doc says: "it returns YES if the filename and directory are valid, or NO if the SavePanel should stay up and wait for the user to type in a different file name or select another directory." In practice, this method controls what filenames will be displayed in the browser for the user to select from in the first place.
From: tm8025a@american.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: All Usernames Date: 7 Dec 1994 02:51:47 GMT Organization: The American University, Washington DC Message-ID: <3c3803$nbb@paladin.american.edu> References: <9412062159.AA16558@alleg.EDU> In article <9412062159.AA16558@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: :is there a way I can find a list of all the usernames on our system? :No I am _not_ going to use this for some mass-mailing program. Used :to be able to find it in a roundabout way by checking all the :listings in /usr/spool/mail, but the NeXT changed things so that only :people who have mail waiting have an entry in /usr/spool/mail : :thanks ia! Try nidump passwd / This should give you a listing that looks like a typical UniX passwd file. Then just pull off the first column. There is probably a way to pipe that to Sed or Awk but I can't remember. The command may not work though as many sys-admins lock that command up. Torrey McMahon
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Inc. EMAIL Addresses Date: 7 Dec 1994 01:07:36 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <3c31so$3n9@mark.ucdavis.edu> Please send me any email addresses for NeXT Inc. thanks pcm
Date: 07 Dec 1994 09:48:00 +0100 From: kris@black.schulung.netuse.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?=) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Message-ID: <5bOQ_4h3nrB@black.schulung.netuse.de> References: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> Subject: Re: ISDN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Orga-what? > Also schreibt mal eure Meinung (Er liest diese group). Also, lieber unbekannter miro-Entwickler: Ich suche seit geraumer Zeit verzweifelt einen Treiber für Nextstep und deutsches Euro-ISDN. Zur Zeit behelfe ich mir mit einer Extradose und einer Teles-Dummkarte, aber ich würde viel lieber eine richtige Karte unter Native Nextstep einsetzen. Oder kurz zusammengefasst: Will Treiber haben! Looooos! Kristian -- Kristian Köhntopp, Harmsstraße 98, 24114 Kiel, +49 431 676689 "I talked to Phil this evening. Direct quote: "I am 99.99999512% sure PGP doesn't use any floating point calculations." -- Hugh Miller in "Phil Zimmermann on Pentium Bug"
From: black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEED HELP PRINTING FROM M Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 04:37:00 GMT Message-ID: <941207023110373@btf.com> Organization: BTF BBS, San Jose Ca. 408-363-9766 Distribution: world References: <3au6qf$be8@ftp-p.mccaw.com> At one time there was a comercial app, but it was bucks- $800 for the next to be a server. As a client on an apple net, it was reasonable, but why? For that money, you could simply buy the mac a laser printer. System 7.5 includes tcp, but you do want to make sure the next is booted when you bring the mac up, as the mac picks an address at random and asks if it is in use, each time it boots. If the next then comes up with that address, it will not be a happy network. You can manually block addresses, but I have no idea how. Ronald Pottol * RM 1.3 * Eval Day 120 * If vegetarians eat vegetables, beware of Humanitari ns!
From: black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SEEKING OPINIONS ONÿÿÿÿÿÿ Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 05:07:00 GMT Message-ID: <941207023110374@btf.com> Organization: BTF BBS, San Jose Ca. 408-363-9766 Distribution: world References: <855@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> <941124223545.319AACUp.malc@white> TM> Hope these guys make a fortune out of it. I saw it demoed in october, just as it was realeased, what? 2 years ago, at the BANG meting at Stanford. We ask the guy demoing it about the people behind it. Quite an example of Next's prowes-It was just him!!!! From an idea that January to a shipping product in September. It would be nice if they released a cheap version, though. (If you are in the biz, buy it! perhaps even if you have to buy a next to run it on.) Ronald Pottol * RM 1.3 * Eval Day 120 * Attack of the 50 foot tribble! . .. . . * . ...
From: hoff@josbach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ISDN Date: 7 Dec 1994 12:40:49 GMT Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology Sender: hoff@josbach (Holger Hoffstaette) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c4agh$8a4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> References: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> <5bOQ_4h3nrB@black.schulung.netuse.de> In article <5bOQ_4h3nrB@black.schulung.netuse.de>, kris@black.schulung.netuse.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?=) writes: >[ISDN mal wieder] >Oder kurz zusammengefasst: Will Treiber haben! Looooos! Ich bin mir da nicht so sicher, nachdem ich die Preise fuer die miro-ISDN-Sachen gesehen habe. Ansonsten empfehle ich dazu auch comp.sys.next.hardware, den Thread ueber das demnaechst erscheinende ISDN-faehige ZyXEL. Infos gibt's umsonst per Teflon bei Xenologics in Koeln. Filip (der Belgier) hat schon gesagt, dass er dafuer einen Treiber fuer den Parallelport machen will. Konkurrenz belebt das Geschaeft! :-) Holgi -- Holger Hoffstätte // [EMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
From: alxs@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Sparkowsky) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ISDN Date: 7 Dec 1994 14:50:15 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <3c4i37$mhe@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> <5bOQ_4h3nrB@black.schulung.netuse.de> <3c4agh$8a4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit High, hoff@josbach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) writes: >> [...] >ISDN-faehige ZyXEL. Infos gibt's umsonst per Teflon bei Xenologics in >Koeln. Filip (der Belgier) hat schon gesagt, dass er dafuer einen Treiber >fuer den Parallelport machen will. Konkurrenz belebt das Geschaeft! :-) Alles schoen und gut, aber du kannst dann doch hoechstens SLIP ueber das ZyXel fahren... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alxeander Sparkowsky E-Mail: alxs@cs.tu-berlin.de 10559 Berlin, Germany alxs@klex.in-berlin.de <NeXTMail welcome>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk (David Andrew Knight) Subject: Re: Please Help: User's Group in Kuwait Message-ID: <D0FqwH.JHG@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <Pine.OSF.3.90.941204180547.29798A-100000@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:09:53 GMT In article <Pine.OSF.3.90.941204180547.29798A-100000@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> Gilad Ehven <b6933873@mail.wsu.edu> writes: > Greetings! Can anyone out there help me and my friend find the address > and contact information for the user's group in Kuwait? We have no > current information, and would appreciate any assistance you can > provide. > > Also, does anyone out there know about the extent to which NeXT is used > in Kuwait? Are there also other services for NeXT users in Kuwait other > than the user's group? > > In advance -- THANKS! > [Please feel free to e-mail me with any information you may have.] Hi, We do not know of any users groups in Kuwait but the VAD for the middle east is; Computer Data Networks (Office #4, Mezzanine Floor, Carrera Building Zaabeel Road, Karama, Dubai, U.A.E.) P.O. Box 52219, Dubai U.A.E Tel: +971 4 37 25 20 Fax: +971 4 378 278 Email: nextsales@cobraone.portal.com Try asking them for info about user groups in the region. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions plc 351 London Road Phone: (+44) 01702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: (+44) 01702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk England (NeXTMail welcome) United Kingdom
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: buchanan@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov (James Robert Buchanan) Subject: HELP: Can't post anything with NNTP Message-ID: <BUCHANAN.94Dec7092046@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov> Followup-To: news.software.nntp Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 14:20:46 GMT Hello, I am running the CNews suite of programs on my NeXT. I have both a UUCP-based news feed and lately through SLIP, an NNTP-based news feed (actually I use slurp to get the news over the SLIP line). After installing the nntp client and server software, I can no longer post new outgoing news (to either the UUCP feed or the NNTP feed). Some "togo" files get built everyday. My machine does correctly forward articles from the SLIP-based feed on to the UUCP-based feed. The problem occurs whenever I try to generate an orginal article on my machine. When I tried to post a test article using the gnus mode of emacs 19.22 I got the following error message: Article rejected: buchanan NNTP server out of space. Try later. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should check for configuration errors or other problems? Please email your responses to me. Thanks, Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL: 919-541-3473, FAX: 919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709-2233 USA URL: http://ipx1.niehs.nih.gov/~buchanan -- Bob Buchanan (buchanan@niehs.nih.gov) TEL: 919-541-3473, FAX: 919-541-4714 MD A0-02, NIEHS, P.O.Box 12233, RTP, NC 27709-2233 USA URL: http://ipx1.niehs.nih.gov/~buchanan
Date: 07 Dec 1994 16:36:00 +0100 From: kris@black.schulung.netuse.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?=) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Message-ID: <5bOS-F4onrB@black.schulung.netuse.de> References: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> <5bOQ_4h3nrB@black.schulung.netuse.de> <3c4agh$8a4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> Subject: Re: ISDN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Distribution: world Organization: Orga-what? > Ich bin mir da nicht so sicher, nachdem ich die Preise fuer > die miro-ISDN-Sachen gesehen habe. Well, currently I am using the usual combo featuring either MS-DOS/Teles/ISPA/pcroute, MS-DOS/Teles/cfos or MS-DOS/Teles/cfos/cfostalk (The last setup is forwarding my calls as MIME encoded .au-Files to a remote account if I am not at home). It is just that these applications are currently running exclusively and not parallel and I have to reboot manually to change the setup. This is a pain in the ass. I am willing to spend as much as 2 kDM for a solution featuring an active card plus necessary drivers for IP and "modem style" connections plus API/objc kit and documentation. Personally I do not care if it is an external device or a plug in card, as long as it is possible to use both D-channels independently or bundled. > Infos gibt's umsonst per > Teflon bei Xenologics in Koeln. Filip (der Belgier) hat schon > gesagt, dass er dafuer einen Treiber fuer den Parallelport > machen will. Do you have the number of Xenologics, Cologne? Or better, do they have an email address? Kristian -- Kristian Köhntopp, Harmsstraße 98, 24114 Kiel, +49 431 676689 "I talked to Phil this evening. Direct quote: "I am 99.99999512% sure PGP doesn't use any floating point calculations." -- Hugh Miller in "Phil Zimmermann on Pentium Bug"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman) Subject: Re: Which application is accessing .cshrc? Message-ID: <D0Er0D.1G0@basil.icce.rug.nl> Originator: root@obelix.icce.rug.nl Sender: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom R.Hageman) Organization: Weary Wolfs References: <9412031859.AA17270@alleg.EDU> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 21:14:36 GMT In article <9412031859.AA17270@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: > Can anyone tell me how to find out what application is accessing my > .cshrc? I need it to different things depending on which application > is running it. > > I thought it might be something like > > if( ${?APPNAME} ) then > > .... > > endif > > where APPNAME might be Stuart, Terminal, RBRowser, GatorFTP, etc but > that doesn't seem to be it. Barring typos this should work: set APPNAME=`ps -axlcw | awk '{ pid=$3; ppid[pid]=$4; name[pid]=$NF; }\ END { pid='$$';\ while (name[pid]==name[ppid[pid]]) pid=ppid[pid];\ print name[ppid[pid]]; }'` -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTMail accepted] __/ __/_/ __/__/__/ "...to baldly go where no one has gone before." __/ _/_/ -- star trek TNG
From: kxh7639@pinyon.egr.uh.edu (Khawaja Hassan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how to backup in nexstep Date: 7 Dec 1994 19:12:55 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c51fn$rb9@masala.cc.uh.edu> can anyone please tell me how to backup files and programs in ns and how to restore them. any help would be appreciated. -- ----------------------------------------------- || || || // kxh7639@tree.egr.uh.edu ||_|| ||// University of Houston ||-|| ||\\ Electrical Engineering || ||assan || \\hawaja Houston, Tx ----------------------------------------------- -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(&-A;B!A;GEO;F4@ M<&QE87-E('1E;&P@;64@:&]W('1O(&)A8VMU<"!F:6QE<R!A;F0@<')O9W)A M;7,@:6X@;G,@86YD(&AO=R!T;R!R97-T;W)E('1H96TN(&%N>2!H96QP('=O M=6QD(&)E(&%P<')E8VEA=&5D+EP*"GM[7$Y'1&]C=6UE;G0Q,C$@:&%S<V%N M+F=I9@HQ,#,W-"!-)UE6,#HL*RQ&,2\F0SA,4SH\4&`V+$)02#PN)R0B+2I' M)$)1.$0T,"8F5S!(8"0B8&!`.RTV.R1$+20Q"DTQ8%`Z+$8C."HH1E$Y.%`X M+49;8%`E0",Y8%0Y+48K(DXM)S)!2%(Z)T)4*B<T2E1*+29#,BDL2C<\2E0* M34H]+D<T*B0^,C8H)%%85%`V8"$\8#=@+C`H4#DX*$8H3S0M5D%(0E`Y3%4V M-C9.1BLY)#DQ*4%5.%(Z0@I-.T$T0C4\4T0Y.$!()%HJ7T(N.59254\E.U(Z M7#$L6B(M-T\G4RE67#Y.7E9+,2M66S!11D8A5CM0-4Q%"DU`1C\L5S$C/3`U M,5=!2DD]2DXX4B9752=%-DY1."Y,(D)@8&`K02<Z)#U",BTX+5I%75Y>1C,I M)4]$3"0*34TZ2E9#/$=.-D%9(3$O+T8_4%]#/3M5*UTF6B5,535%-$\W5U-/ M.2Q-8"8L,4LR*U8Z6T8H3$!"7$!38`I-1S=/1R0[2RDM55Y>3R8\,4Q2+"1# M65I)1E-/7U]--D575SLZ.3LH/"Q:/TU83%A?6T$A.$=%4UY..3@I"DU!+$Y) M0$U$3EQ3)RA8*"M>*SM#02]2(EHA7BA?-#DU2%A(1$A)2D-"0D)25EHN*BLL M8"M@,$0M.3LP-&`*36!/6&`\8&`J)"@P(B)`02$C)2A@(2))4$!@-#`Q8%!# M4&!@0"HL)"$D(B8H,#`P8"18,$`A,")05"<[)`I-*%%3-$!@/%M:)#!1,&`B M,$@G(B0H(C%$)%0T8$)`0T(P04)>3"@C(R,B.%1$.$0B*RE!(R(B63-`+BLD M"DTH030X,"1@(2@M8"$P(S`J0"<B*"=-4V`P,%0Z,D5@4E$B*5I4*"0K*2)( M+#PP0#8G64,Q(B-*,$LF)R0*32I56UQ88#@G7E0P(B(A*E%(+R8D8"-@1#A4 M-%LR1"$B8"%3/CPK*"4N(C1(2$Q,+C=10R%244M12RTE)0I-*$=0+"A$*#5" M32(S(D%`8",G)",A)F!(8$0X+&`A,R-1(C1>/BPD)"TB23@X,$`B7E!#,D-2 M6S%/)R(D"DTH05TT*#!`+48T03(Q02I3)"HC(2E%,51(1"0M.E90,C!33T)< M*2\H*3<Y)&!<2#<A,E$Q0C!+.4,C*"T*32DT650\*"PY*R=@,R)11"0V)2HK M(C=30$1,-%PQ+$,R,C$A(R<K)R-/1D4P/%Q(5DQ'0T,Q0SU5/"LO*0I-)S8W M6"Q47%]:7R,A,5$R*%HC*RTB(3M(6$Q4."$X0R-1(T!?/B\H(R=3*U!@-&!= M6E!302)"7EQ+(R,G"DTK7%A$/#0H)STX,3)@,EDV5RTE*"LK.4@\3#PB*4)@ M(U%!55@M)2\I)21=,#A@8$HV5%,Q,2-!5CXM+B8*320\13Q<1#0\(B@A4T`B M0BA7)2\N*3TT1"A$)%Y95U-1(3%)+5=@+BE@)#1@0%PH.$,A,B$B(S,Q(B@J M(PI-*SHX)$A$8&!-*4`C4$%4629@(BI@)5HH1%!,,5=$,4(S0"\F/BXI)F!$ M520P1%`D*E=@,#-0(C0P)B0J"DTA(C188"0D4R%74E%!0BA!4"(D)&`F(5A@ M1%@Y0U=#05`C)D4O*RDI*B%"8#!8,$@_-4`B,3`Q+5Q@)2\*321@2UA@)%0Z M23<S0F!05S!@*B5@)%)!8&`X.#HJ22)@4V!"+T`F)B$F1D%806!$,D1@*%(B M(BA@7")@(0I-*2M0,$!643@X44HE5B0L*F`C)BQ@6E!@)SU$8"%@,%1(.&!` M12PD-$9+8"$K*#%18"%3,$!0,T(^+#!!"DTO*F`B)%]!(2-@.F!`0$106#!< M-$I@8#Y'52$D(D)08"(B3"@P,%LZ,B0T.B4J8"<Z7C$B)"$M.&`S430*35`H M.3=)*&`O/"%`)"I46C%@)%9(*#$P7"0H8#8T(R8K,45!(6!56U!@0B(Z,&!% M3V`L8"E<32$E*D-100I-(3!<)"A15E=6*#`V/$TD)C)((R)@1TU`0%$M+E@X M/3Q,8"1@6DDC)25%(B%"-SHX*$`G0$8D+"$U8"(C"DTL6U$B)%Q)*$`A2"98 M8"P\,2XH+$<Z0B,N4RE0(44O6%!`7F`X*#PV(BXF*C4\8$,E*%I08#-,1DA@ M/"L*34$J)5XD3D(D*#4S0"%%,5`P058Y0F`\3BPJ)"@M.3!")B=:,$$R6T!( M,SE;)28D+38K(B4K2R$A(B5`)`I-6"$C2D0H/$<W0V`L.4M30B57.S!0(DA@ M-"@A)#8D8#504B%@*#XS(6`V8%A846!&6&!@8%<C(BXS*5)!"DTA.#TP8"$P M6"Q@/49`+"PE3SHC)V`Z.F!`)4@D8"$L,SA@)$!`0B9@,%)`(R-'-&!`8%$X M3#!-,U,N)"T*33XZ8")@(5%0(5<M1#!@5CU@(BA744<\*3E:,T(E/2U@4%`N M1D$H1"588"0L,"I")B<_.&!!-4]8*%`A6@I-/F`H2$%/)"PP4T`A)R\B*%%! 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From: kxh7639@pinyon.egr.uh.edu (Khawaja Hassan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: putting an image in mail or newsgrazer?? Date: 7 Dec 1994 19:22:04 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c520s$rkh@masala.cc.uh.edu> i have seen some posts that when you read them, you can see the image the posters have put in the the box next to the time/date window. can you tell me how to do it?? -- ----------------------------------------------- || || || // kxh7639@tree.egr.uh.edu ||_|| ||// University of Houston ||-|| ||\\ Electrical Engineering || ||assan || \\hawaja Houston, Tx ----------------------------------------------- -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(&D@:&%V92!S965N M('-O;64@<&]S=',@=&AA="!W:&5N('EO=2!R96%D('1H96TL('EO=2!C86X@ M<V5E('1H92!I;6%G92!T:&4@<&]S=&5R<R!H879E('!U="!I;B!T:&4@=&AE M(&)O>"!N97AT('1O('1H92!T:6UE+V1A=&4@=VEN9&]W+B!C86X@>6]U('1E M;&P@;64@:&]W('1O(&1O(&ET/S\@7`H*>WM<3D='<F%P:&EC,38X(&9D<V9D M<V$N=&EF9@HR-#`T($TR-$1*8"$X)F!@(F`J2B$P+B(P-B,P/B0P1B4P3B8P M5B<P7B@Q)BDQ+BHQ-BLQ/BPQ1BTQ*3`Q3B\Q7C`*33(F,3`^+E!%,&`B-#)& M-3).-C)6-S)>.#,F.3)`(D4V,5,^+#(V)#(\2E-6/S->0#0F030N0C0V0S0\ M2@I-15U?4#$R5$)'-%Y(-29!+UU=,"H],C!@-2I--4Y.-$9%4"Y&4RY1-BY2 M-C8U,S9*,%8^-"9%-"5?5EY8"DTT/E@W)E8W+5]/-DY37D4T4$I`8"4S0V`P M0E1*2DM0.E54(E936R137EM4+R536R99(EPW1R<U7B$V)E\*35@G+3`O(5@V M(E@^/RI)-T]?,%HN/T5)-3DF0#HK,C-;-#DG-UDO*C<V7C=;+5L_(4I>)3HB M/E9'*#4V70I--$Y&55L_2DM`2DM!5T]!5#\G7%<V4U9=5B)>64<[6"<N6TY, M5",U)3=-7#,E/%].7%I'6E-`6%9:/2,K"DT\0TE0/SE>5D-01SQ=0E<[*TX_ M,TY=2UL_,R@W.D(^.RE+.V`C1TI<5DM**"A+4ELP,2$L)3`W(40F2SX*33Y@ M8"%&)S(C3DY$4TQ/,%@K64Q+(S)"3#Y;6RDI3%12/D\H6UPB+SA)-"<Q,R4T M-4M'(F`Y04PL4B,L)@I--$M9,2<D-#!0)%8L+#%-)RLT3U15/#M/*DXB7"U< M5TM`,2I:,SLH+6!<-C([*50D,3TF)#DJ2D%#(U(J"DU;1$-/,%TS3S)06%0R M3C9*/$Q1(20C34\B72LL,2\I7%4S-2HL.$@K(DH]4$\L2UTP7%%$6C`D2#M; M2U(*35HK*T\W*3PT,S<P+#4S.RHZ2S%*7DLD*TTG721+1S$\)"\\6%Q$4"I` M/$8M*"I@8"=?(B-23TA@(E0T/`I-3R4N4TTQ1$@P0RHT5U)(4U(B+5DR)38J M0R]#53(T0$TJ5"4V1"4T*31=(S!--4T]2D4U7%0S7DXZ0%4C"DTK0RA43S@R M.E5'*54[2"DF/2-563E:0S5=+U4Y-"$V34LK33D[+C4P03)&5D\[54LQ+3@C M4U!22#U!4%X*34=50S<K.2):5%,T3%<V.2I$.BY+/CHF55\Z14]743LJ(2PF M-#5:-UT[14E0+3I-)DE;/2I>5S<G.D)`8`I-(5Q<+EA-7410/SU5(D4U/THK M5U$I7$HH2SY6(3A/.U5=+3,J03%(42%2-C`Q03I923M!1"8P0$)6+51)"DTZ M2$I8+3Q6(THK+S->4T\E3BDU4#4V,3A-(3PH.3<S)D`K341<-%!!-BHH63Q` M-B@X6RU&/3=`0#$R.2<*32%*-3DT3B9`.B=%)DLP.TA:-"A'23-#.4!72UQ* M)T!444Y?*5XO3"8T+DE4)S,B5UDS2S97*3(J2S0H00I-3"9&.CLY-D=65%)> M5E`S2THT.E=(3E@\)TL^0%M))#HG6U$Z3CE04TPV)S@[1BPK5RDT/BA1/SU> M7EE9"DU/7ETZ6$4S,T@]44<N54E--C!<650].SQ>53HF/21.)3!.5U5=+2]1 M0$\J*CU(+RPX1TU&/S,T2DHU*U\*34TO-2E?/DY@63]5)6!=*D`V/DA-+3HW M33DE1V!*(U@^1#XK/#Y3*BU1+B16)E$^,TE=6S<K52U*(34Z10I-5SPV/5M0 M.C1<+R%72#TV03\V7BU8)SPY5D,O0#PA4#1&7S=8-S8^*4D_*#Q&7TLC4SY- M+3XP.#%46S%&"DU72S@_3%Q=6"E(-UTO,S]87EU)4UPW4$\J*$I-/$4K4"=, M,"P_.E]-3"HJ-%%-1C@L6V!-(SY8*2XZ-3(*33$E-DLQ5U1-4RDP728A2D18 M)U`P02A>(5,S)3=%2B(Y*E=.(RM"2"U0+D!:/CU15"@S*4\V.4A=54$B(0I- M4ULJ1$$J3TTJ0UA8.TI5.DI?/B$\+R9@,%X[4R,I1UL_*$8M7C\H6C!%-")( M/41603Y&1554*S91345`"DTN1C4Z7&!764L_0$Y"35\D)DA*4%!!7R5"+B0V M1C`D(D%-(38M42HH4#%&/U,C5BY"130L348L/R0H720*32HX7"U+0"LC0B]4 M/5A03S)$)E`N+E-'2$51624T*D(Q2T\A-2960UY;-BPT0$A2*"U"+$A!7U(G M6$(F+0I-/#U@)B$D15,A0D9$5EA!4%PJ2$DR,4,F3BHR3"%)-RDT14$E5B5` M8"(A44]%2R@B+C$B-U<C7SY8,U5&"DT\2EA"2T=%+28^-$E>5T]..4)6*DHW M3#-41R1,/CTC2CA$-2E#,#Q"3RM%1RQ.4BU30CI/)2XT+#Q9,5,*349"4RXQ M4SQ/1"1*0#\P4D!%/#DX)%$Y14TJ*C<D6R<T4TY`2#$H5#HC0R(Q23I@7CA. 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From: kochhar@endor.harvard.edu (Sandeep Kochhar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is this an IndexKit-type or Librarian app? Date: 7 Dec 1994 19:59:45 GMT Organization: Harvard University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3c547h$sj9@necco.harvard.edu> hi! Consider the following scenario: I have over a dozen megabytes of mail messages and other useful info, each in individual files. I'd like to archive these, but first I'd like to create an "index" (e.g. Subject lines and/or keywords) that would allow me to use a "Librarian" style interface to look for table of contents, do keyword searches, etc. This seems to be such a common need that I assumed NeXT would have demos or apps to already do this... And, I thought, given the Librarian and Index Kit on the NeXT, what else could be easier? Unfortunately, that didn't seem to quite be the case... - the Index Kit help in the librarian seems to refer to a programmatic interface for creating Libararian-style applications, but there seems to be no simple demo or app that does what I describe above... - I tried looking for help on how to create a new Librarian bookshelf, but again, I couldn't find any info on that... Now, that seemed strange (since I have the developer version of 3.1 as well...) why have a useful tool like Librarian if there wasn't a simple way to add more information.... So, I assume that I didn't look in the right places... Anyone know where I should look? Any thoughts or help on the above problem? thx. -- Sandeep Kochhar 248 Hampshire St. #2 email: kochhar@das.harvard.edu Cambridge, MA 02139 tel: (617) 876-2052
From: todd.nathan@mccaw.com (Todd Nathan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: All Usernames Date: 7 Dec 1994 20:06:50 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c54kq$797@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <3c3803$nbb@paladin.american.edu> Keywords: SED AWK or something The following ... nidump passwd / | awk -F\: '{print $1, ""}' will do the trick. Regards, Todd Anthony Nathan I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me ------------------------------------------------------ In article <3c3803$nbb@paladin.american.edu> tm8025a@american.edu writes: > How do I get the names of users on my system? (paraphrased) [... munched to save space ... ] > > Torrey McMahon
From: todd.nathan@mccaw.com (Todd Nathan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: All Usernames Date: 7 Dec 1994 20:07:13 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3c54lh$799@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <3c3803$nbb@paladin.american.edu> The following ... nidump passwd / | awk -F\: '{print $1, ""}' will do the trick. Regards, Todd Anthony Nathan I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me ------------------------------------------------------ In article <3c3803$nbb@paladin.american.edu> tm8025a@american.edu writes: > How do I get the names of users on my system? (paraphrased) [... munched to save space ... ] > > Torrey McMahon
From: celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com (Cliff Elam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Date: 8 Dec 1994 00:11:18 GMT Organization: MCI Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c5iv6$cg2@hermes.dna.mci.com> Help - I'm trying to run some communications software under SoftPC/DOS and the software works for a while and then SoftPC just terminates. The console has the following error message: Dec 7 17:04:56 homebrew WindowServer[189]: Interceptor: error in receiving app notification reply (timed out) I've installed Mark Salyzyn's serial port driver replacement as per the FAQ. HELP! -- Cliff Elam celam@bou.shl.com (NEXTMail) celam@radiomail.net (text only) Airedales and polar bears!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Subject: Re: loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES Message-ID: <D0GuCE.GJM@fragile.termfrost.org> Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH References: <3bodld$n70@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> <3btrn1$onb@paladin.american.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 00:21:49 GMT tm8025a@american.edu writes: >:here's a dumb question: >: >:I running NeXTStep 3.0 on a NeXTStation and i would like my login panel >to >:bounce around when no one is logged in. I sometimes run really big jobs <munch> >: % dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES >: >:But that didn't work. Anyone know how to do this? You got the dwrite right, but: a) you have to do it as root b) you have to restart loginwindow for it to take effect (by logging in as "exit". The window will disappear, then reappear in a few seconds) -- Mike Andrews -- mandrews@wittenberg.edu -- kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (NeXT) "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: Re: Which application is accessing .cshrc? Message-ID: <1994Dec8.041314.10109@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT References: <9412031859.AA17270@alleg.EDU> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 04:13:14 GMT Tim Luoma (luomat@alleg.EDU) wrote: : Sorry to be sort of repeating a question, but I didn't really ever : find out what I needed to know and my hack has started to break down. : Can anyone tell me how to find out what application is accessing my : .cshrc? I need it to different things depending on which application : is running it. You will not believe it but it's csh (/bin/csh). The funny thing accepting your input in the Terminal.app windows. -- Thomas Katzlberger katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/index.html
From: terence@sfsc.com (Terence Liow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Anyone got NS 3.3? Date: 8 Dec 1994 06:54:32 GMT Organization: SFSC Message-ID: <3c6aj8$8i6@maple.enet.net> I see that Next has announced that they've started shipping NS 3.3 (in c.s.n.announce) as of Dec. 6. Has anyone actually seen a copy?
From: niteowl@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de (Werner J. Lilie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 1994 03:44:20 +0100 Organization: Universitaet Stuttgart Message-ID: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> GIF file (1280 by 1024 pixels,256 colors,uuencoded) showing a trashcan man (as found on cans,chewing gum wrapping etc.) trashing a _special_ (Re: Pentium bug) intel inside symbol.Rescale for your specific purpose (startup screen,desktop background).Idea taken from The Economist,a magazine worth reading now and then :-) Enjoy ! 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From: niteowl@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de (Werner J. Lilie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: insel_intide_B.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 1994 03:52:20 +0100 Organization: Universitaet Stuttgart Message-ID: <niteowl-0812940352200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> GIF file (1280 by 1024 pixels,256 colors,uuencoded) of a "no" sign with a _special_ (Re: Pentium bug) intel inside logo in the center.Rescale for your specific purpose (startup screen,desktop background etc.).Idea taken from The Economist a magazine worth reading now and then :-) Enjoy ! 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From: alby@uunet.uu.net (Anthony Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Date: 7 Dec 1994 19:36:34 -0500 Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices) Sender: alby@cthulu.UU.NET Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c5kei$5rf@cthulu.UU.NET> References: <3c5iv6$cg2@hermes.dna.mci.com> Has anybody come out with a better version of SoftPC? -Alby
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mouse Settings (Re: Faster mouse speeds? (MouseScaling)) Date: 8 Dec 1994 10:37:27 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412081637.AA18998@alleg.EDU> This made me think of a problem in our site; when our NeXTs were installed, something got screwed up: as a result, the Menu Button preference is never saved; you have to re-select it every time you log in. Any ideas why this is happening? Any workarounds? (like, e.g. a command-line that can be appended to the .profile/.login and enable the Menu Button?). Re-installation is not an alternative, since I do not have root access and the people that do, do not consider it a major problem... Thanx in advance... This was a problem pre-3.? I believe. What version are you using? ---begin --- #!/bin/csh -f dwrite NeXT1 MouseButtonsTied No dwrite NeXT1 MouseHandedness Right /usr/bin/open /NextApps/Preferences.app/Preferences exit ---- end --- you could putting the above into an edit file, do chmod 700 scriptname and then add it to your workspace LaunchPaths dwrite dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths /absolute/path/to/that/script (make sure to check there isn't anything on that launch path already with 'dread -o Workspace | grep LaunchPaths' if you aren't sure) AND, of course, deselect Preferences from your Workspace Manager's auto-launch -- unless you want two copies I don't know if that would work or not, but it might be worth a shot. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: All Usernames Date: 7 Dec 1994 21:05:37 +0100 Organization: Contributed Software GbR Message-ID: <3c54ih$fc@uropax.contrib.de> References: <9412062159.AA16558@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) writes: >is there a way I can find a list of all the usernames on our system? >No I am _not_ going to use this for some mass-mailing program. Used >to be able to find it in a roundabout way by checking all the >listings in /usr/spool/mail, but the NeXT changed things so that only >people who have mail waiting have an entry in /usr/spool/mail Do you have a tcsh? type ~ (tilde - control-D) Ralf -- melonSoft Ralf Suckow Berlin | Developer of MusicBuilder (R), suckow@contrib.de | the music creation application: fax: +4930 9321901 | finest software from old Germany ;-)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Which application is accessing .cshrc? Date: 8 Dec 1994 13:58:51 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412081958.AA00851@alleg.EDU> Thanks to Tom Hageman I have found out a way to make this all work, although it was not as straightforward as it might have seemed. The problem (for any who may have missed it) came about when I started to have my .cshrc launch tcsh (no passwd and chsh wouldn't do it, I've tried them all) anyway, that started to mess up GatorFTP and RBrowser, so I wanted .cshrc to NOT try to start tcsh if those apps were the ones checking .cshrc (I must say at this point that some people claim that no apps check the .cshrc) Anyway, when Tom sent that info, I tinkered with it. The APPNAME for RBrowser is not RBrowser but some beast called "inetd" and for GatorFTP was "sh". I found that out by adding Tom's line and adding a line in my .cshrc: echo "APPNAME" | mail luomat@alleg.edu When RBrowser and GatorFTP were launched, I got email with 'inetd' and 'sh'. So my .cshrc now has these lines in it: if ("$APPNAME" == "inetd") then # FOR RBROWSER exit else if ("$APPNAME" == "sh") then # FOR GATORFTP /bin/csh -f endif And it seems to work fine. Thanks for the help.... when this breaks down I'll think of something else..... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: Juan Diaz <jdiaz@mail.utexas.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ****68040's for sale**** Date: 8 Dec 1994 17:59:21 GMT Organization: eiseley x Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c7hhp$fgm@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Two Motorola 68RC040 microprocessors for sale. Rated at 25 and 33 mHz. Brand new. email your offers to jdiaz@mail.utexas.edu, or call me at (512) 454-9291, leave a message for Juan.
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: I want to buy a trackball for my NON adb keyboard Date: 8 Dec 1994 18:35:00 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <3c7jkk$dm9@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: advice,help,mouse,trackball, NON-adb keyboards Hullo Folks! I have an interest in purchasing a track ball for my venerable NeXTcube. It has the old style, pre-NeXTstation, NON-adb keyboard. Does anyone have any experience with track balls that work with these keyboards? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Chris Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: WILL NEXTSTEP for PA-RISC ever mean NEXTSTEP on SGI? Date: 8 Dec 1994 19:01:09 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <3c7l5l$egv@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: sgi, pa-risc port WILL NEXTSTEP for PA-RISC ever mean NEXTSTEP on SGI? Many of us adore SGI hardware. wouldn't it be nice if NeXTstep or at least OpenStep could happen on a Silicon Graphics machine? Chris penrose@ucsd.edu
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Date: 8 Dec 1994 20:04:11 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c7orr$c5n@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3c5iv6$cg2@hermes.dna.mci.com> In article <3c5iv6$cg2@hermes.dna.mci.com> celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com (Cliff Elam) writes: :Help - : :I'm trying to run some communications software under SoftPC/DOS and the :software works for a while and then SoftPC just terminates. The console has :the following error message: : Dec 7 17:04:56 homebrew WindowServer[189]: : Interceptor: error in receiving app notification reply (timed out) : :I've installed Mark Salyzyn's serial port driver replacement as per the FAQ. SoftPC 4.0 has just been released by Insignia, and it has over 1000 bug fixes and many new features. Are you using 4.0, or an older version? -- Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: will 3.3 fit on my 100Mb drive? Message-ID: <1994Dec8.131341.451@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 8 Dec 94 13:13:40 CST Organization: As little as I can get away with... Like everyone else, I've noticed NEXTSTEP is getting bigger with each revision. Will 3.3 fit on my 100Mb drive? -- kc
From: gbeegle@nxtul111.wiltel.com (Chris Beegle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Mail... Date: 8 Dec 1994 17:58:58 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <3c7hh2$7fc@gateway.wiltel.com> Is there anyway to include the ~/.signature file in NeXT Mail? -- ************************************************************ Chris Beegle ID - Chris_Beegle@Wiltel.com NeXT ID - gbeegle@wiltel13.wiltel.com PC Support @ WilTel Int. One Williams Center 29-2
From: rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil (Bob Kurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: is it possible to read Acrobat files under NS? Date: 8 Dec 1994 20:44:52 GMT Organization: "CARDEROCKDIV CDNSWC" Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c7r84INNlt8@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Keywords: acrobat Hi Checking to see if anyone is aware of a tool to read Adobe Acrobat PDF files under NEXTSTEP? thanks for looking this over Bob Kurhajetz -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M]"EQM M87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@W,3%<='@Q-#(S7'1X,C$S-5QT M>#(X-#9<='@S-34X7'1X-#(W,%QT>#0Y.#%<='@U-CDS7'1X-C0P-5QT>#<Q M,39<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,S)<9F,P7&-F,"!(:5P*7`I#:&5C:VEN M9R!T;R!S964@:68@86YY;VYE(&ES(&%W87)E(&]F(&$@=&]O;"!T;R!R96%D M($%D;V)E($%C<F]B870@4$1&(&9I;&5S('5N9&5R($Y%6%135$50/UP*7`I< M"G1H86YK<R!F;W(@;&]O:VEN9R!T:&ES(&]V97)<"EP*($)O8B!+=7)H86IE (='H*7`H*?0IF `
Control: cancel <1994Dec8.041314.10109@news.vanderbilt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: cancel <1994Dec8.041314.10109@news.vanderbilt.edu> Message-ID: <1994Dec9.000918.2275@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 00:09:18 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Okerson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: UPS automatic shutdown Date: 8 Dec 1994 18:29 EDT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <8DEC199418295459@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 I would like to find a program which will monitor a UPS and automatically shutdown NEXTSTEP on an Intel (Dell) computer if a power outage lasts more than a predefined period or the battery reaches a low voltage limit. The UPS suppliers sell such software, for example APC's "PowerChute" for common Unix systems such as Suns, but apparently not for NEXTSTEP. Is there a program capable of handling such a function for the Intel version of NEXTSTEP, either free, shareware, or commercial? Best regards, David
From: terence@sfsc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scanner for Next (FIP)? Date: 9 Dec 1994 00:31:52 GMT Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona Message-ID: <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net> My Next fan (freak) boss asked me to find out if there are any scanners for Next machines out there. I guess since the oem h/w is port-limited, the obvious solutions would be on a 80x86 machine. Question: Are there any scanners that are supported by whatever Next software that will work this way? Or do I have to scan the stuff under a DOS/Windows window (SoftPC) or in native mode (with dual boot) and then reboot to Nextstep and use the file from there? Thanks,
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ideas for internal 1Gb HD?? Message-ID: <1994Dec8.172332.62@tanuki.twics.com> Date: 8 Dec 94 17:23:32 JST Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access] A couple of quick questions: i) I have an internal 400Mb HD in my black NeXT, and I'd like to upgrade it to about 1Gb or so. Does anyone have any definite opinions on what disk to buy or not to buy? ii) I have a lot of customized stuff on my boot disk (ppp, uucp settings, etc.) so a BuildDisk won't automatically reconfigure my new internal disk the way I want it. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could copy the contents of my current internal to the new disk (for what it's worth, I have an external Conner as well, and I might be able to remove this from its case and PSU, put the new 1Gb into this case, and then just work from there). Is this feasible (has anyone done it)? TIA Hugh Ashton
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Which application is accessing .cshrc? Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 17:18:17 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4itsMdO00UhWQ7HFtT@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <9412081958.AA00851@alleg.EDU> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 8-Dec-94 Re: Which application is ac.. by Tim Luoma@alleg.EDU > The problem (for any who may have missed it) came about when I > started to have my .cshrc launch tcsh (no passwd and chsh wouldn't do > it, I've tried them all) You shouldn't have your .cshrc start up another shell. If you want to use tcsh as your default shell, edit your NetInfo configuration or do (as root): nidump passwd / >! /etc/passwd Edit the /etc/passwd file and change the /bin/csh entry for your passwd entry to /usr/local/bin/tcsh. niload -v -d passwd / < /etc/passwd In either case, you must also edit /etc/shells and add /usr/local/bin/tcsh to the list of acceptable shells. > anyway, that started to mess up GatorFTP and RBrowser, so I wanted > .cshrc to NOT try to start tcsh if those apps were the ones checking > .cshrc (I must say at this point that some people claim that no apps > check the .cshrc) Some applications might need to fork a subshell for one of several reasons, but no normal NEXTSTEP app should be reading the .cshrc file itself. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: jgomezr@neptune.uucp (JL Gomez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Academic bundle price for NS 3.3? Date: 9 Dec 1994 04:12:36 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <3c8lfk$t73@nic-nac.CSU.net> Does NeXT offer an academic bundle price for NeXTSTEP 3.3? I'm looking to get the development kit also. Thanks for the info. -- jgomezr@neptune.calstatela.edu
From: wells_s@ix.wcc.govt.nz (Steve Wells) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: 9 Dec 1994 05:50:01 GMT Organization: Wellington City Council, Public Access Message-ID: <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Yeah, um, thanks for that - shouldn't this be in the binary groups!? WELLS_S@IX.WCC.GOVT.NZ I am in no way affiliated with the Government Steve Wells. or City Council.
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: ISDN References: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> <5bOQ_4h3nrB@black.schulung.netuse.de> <3c4agh$8a4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> <5bOS-F4onrB@black.schulung.netuse.de> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 01:22:40 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec9.012240.20836@proximus.north.de> In article <5bOS-F4onrB@black.schulung.netuse.de>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?= <kris@black.schulung.netuse.de> wrote: [....] >Do you have the number of Xenologics, Cologne? Or better, do >they have an email address? [...] Xenologics, Stephan Muhs info@xenologics.com 2203-69 50 91 2203-69 50 90 (fax) Wilhelm-Ruppert-Straûe 38/C66 51147 Köln Deutschland ZyXEL Modems Bestellungen <order@xenologics.com> Stephan Muhs <stephan@xenologics.com> Frank Bergknecht <frank@dino.dinoco.de> ehemals dinoLogics. BTW: I'm one of the first happy customers... Since the old days of Anchor modems... ;-) Gerhard. -- N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Q: Database Frontend for NEXT & Mac / Mac NFS ? Date: 9 Dec 1994 10:59:25 GMT Organization: University of Kassel - Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c9dad$fp4@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de> Hallo we need to develop a Frontend to our Sybase database, which works on NEXTSTEP and on Macs. It is no problem to achieve everything we need with EOF on the NEXTs, but we have no idea how to do the same for our Macs. Is there any product available, which enables parallel development of Frontends on both systems? Or is there a product simmilar to Vario Data Pro for macs (which can be used as a database frontend)? we also need to connect our Macs into our SUN NEXT network. Is there a product like PC-Nfs for Macs? Thanks for any Information -- Gabor Freivogel GhK- University of Kassel/ Germany Dept. of Architecture Henschelstr. 2 e -mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: znih!dbhinz (David Hinz) Subject: Need email address for Alex Nghiem Message-ID: <1994Dec8.220424.3019@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: dbhinz@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 22:04:24 GMT Need the e-mail address for Alex Nghiem author of "NeXTSTEP Programming Concepts and Applications" Thanks, david
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl (Bernhard Hahn) Subject: Re: is it possible to read Acrobat files under NS? Sender: news@knoware.nl (News Account) Message-ID: <D0JGrn.9to@knoware.nl> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 10:21:22 GMT References: <3c7r84INNlt8@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Organization: Knoware Nederland In article <3c7r84INNlt8@oasys.dt.navy.mil> rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil (Bob Kurhajetz) writes: >Hi > >Checking to see if anyone is aware of a tool to read Adobe Acrobat PDF files under NEXTSTEP? > > >thanks for looking this over > > Bob Kurhajetz Yes, you can do that with Tailor 2.0 --- Bernhard Hahn Buntlaan 13 3941 MG Doorn The Netherlands Tel: +31-(0)3430-13321 Fax: +31-(0)3430-13321 Email: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl (NeXTmail Welcome!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Olivier POTONNIEE <olivier.potonniee@issy.cnet.fr> Subject: Re: NeXT Mail... Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <potonnie.94Dec910330@teck.cnetissy> Sender: usenet@cnet.fr Organization: CNET References: <3c7hh2$7fc@gateway.wiltel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 09:33:00 GMT Chris Beegle wrote: >Is there anyway to include the ~/.signature file in NeXT Mail? Yes, you just have to get the freeware 'sendmail-addheadsig', that I found ... I don't remember where. Then you tell Mail.app to use it instead of 'sendmail', and it works : with non-NeXT mail it adds your ~/.signature, with NeXTMail it adds ~/.signature.rtf. You can also add a header. Contact me if you can't find this program. Olivier POTONNIEE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CNET - FRANCE TELECOM | Tel : +33 (1) 45 29 63 95 PAA/TSA/TLR - groupe Arcade | Fax : +33 (1) 45 29 66 56 38-40 rue du General Leclerc | e-mail : olivier.potonniee@issy.cnet.fr 92131 Issy les Moulineaux | FRANCE | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: csuod@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Gareth Moore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: 9 Dec 1994 14:25:08 -0000 Organization: University of Warwick, Coventry, UK Message-ID: <3c9pc4$i21@crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, wells_s@ix.wcc.govt.nz writes: >Yeah, um, thanks for that - shouldn't this be in the binary groups!? No. It should be on your backdrop... -- Gareth L Moore email: csuod@csv.warwick.ac.uk Undergrad, University of Warwick, UK or gareth@dcs.warwick.ac.uk Term: 61a, Regent Street, Leamington Spa, CV32 5EE (01926) 424365 Home: 2, Pierrefondes Ave, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 8NF (01252) 523205
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: UPS automatic shutdown Date: 9 Dec 1994 14:11:29 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c9oih$c8@rosie.next.com> References: <8DEC199418295459@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> In article <8DEC199418295459@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Okerson) writes: # I would like to find a program which will monitor a UPS and # automatically shutdown NEXTSTEP on an Intel (Dell) computer # if a power outage lasts more than a predefined period or the # battery reaches a low voltage limit. The UPS suppliers sell # such software, for example APC's "PowerChute" for common Unix # systems such as Suns, but apparently not for NEXTSTEP. # # Is there a program capable of handling such a function for the # Intel version of NEXTSTEP, either free, shareware, or commercial? PowerGuardian by Benatong. We use it on an APC SmartUPS here and it works fine. Also has DO capabilities to tell other machines to shut down. joe
From: jkimball@bywater.ece.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Kimball) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Mail... Date: 9 Dec 1994 17:36:48 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <3ca4jg$9ba@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <potonnie.94Dec910330@teck.cnetissy> In article <potonnie.94Dec910330@teck.cnetissy> Olivier POTONNIEE <olivier.potonniee@issy.cnet.fr> writes: > > Chris Beegle wrote: > >Is there anyway to include the ~/.signature file in NeXT Mail? > > Yes, you just have to get the freeware 'sendmail-addheadsig', that I found .. I don't remember where. Then you tell Mail.app to use it instead of 'sendmail', and it works : with non-NeXT mail it adds your ~/.signature, with NeXTMail it adds ~/.signature.rtf. You can also add a header. > > Contact me if you can't find this program. > > > Olivier POTONNIEE You can also get MailHelper from ftp.cs.orst.edu in /software/NeXT/binaries/mail. It sets up a service to insert your signature and do a couple other things. The only problem is that it's not automatic. -- Jonathan Kimball jkimball@bywater.ece.uiuc.edu NeXTmail OK I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide Is a wild call and a clear call which may not be denied...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) Subject: Re: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Organization: Madge Networks Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 14:33:15 GMT Message-ID: <D0JsFG.ExM@madge1.demon.co.uk> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software References: <3c5iv6$cg2@hermes.dna.mci.com> Cliff Elam (celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com) wrote: : Help - : I'm trying to run some communications software under SoftPC/DOS and the : software works for a while and then SoftPC just terminates. The console has There is a NEXTSTEP kernel patch dating from around June this year that fixes some "SoftPC just disapears" problems (assuming that you're running 3.2). It might be worth investigating this. -- All present and future standard disclaimers apply
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: All Usernames Date: 9 Dec 1994 10:48:28 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412091648.AA16468@alleg.EDU> Do you have a tcsh? type ~ (tilde - control-D) YES that worked. thanks. I don't have access to nidump and it doesn't work on our system Thanks for the reply. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dclark@isc.nva.ge.com (Deborah Jabon-Clark) Subject: OmniWeb and proxy server Message-ID: <1994Dec9.165712.20507@knight.vf.ge.com> Sender: news@knight.vf.ge.com Organization: Martin Marietta, Inc., Reston, VA Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 16:57:12 GMT Has anyone had any experience using OmniWeb with a proxy server? We're having trouble with it and so far OmniGroup has not responded to my enquiry. Configuration: NeXTSTEP 3.2hp running on an HP 712/80 PA-RISC OmniWeb 0.7.5.4 Symptom: When I add the name of my proxy server(s), regardless of what I enter, the proxy server appears in the Proxies panel as "http://host.dom.ain" amd that is literally what it tries to use for the connection. Not good. The 712/80 is a client on our largely Sun-based network, and we are running both NIS and DNS. The 712/80 running NeXTSTEP can successfully ping and nslookup our proxy server (located outside of our local network). Any clues? Any help/suggestions would be appreciated. I am new to the NeXTSTEP world and freely admit ignorance in this domain. Thanks. Deborah Jabon-Clark dclark@isc.nva.ge.com Martin Marietta Corporation Integrated Solutions Center 10803 Parkridge Blvd, Reston, VA 22091 (703) 264-6136, FAX: 6171
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Scanner for Next (FIP)? Organization: ADEC Systems Inc. Distribution: na Date: Fri, 9 Dec 94 16:48:32 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec9.164832.23489@ve6mgs.ampr.org> References: <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net> terence@sfsc.com writes: >My Next fan (freak) boss asked me to find out if there are any scanners >for Next machines out there. I guess since the oem h/w is port-limited, >the obvious solutions would be on a 80x86 machine. I have a low level driver for the ScanFx scanner. The pre-scan example is a simple application, all interfaces are done with read, write and ioctl UNIX calls at this point. Drop me, or talus systems a note. Ciao -- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Need email address for Alex Nghiem Organization: ADEC Systems Inc. Distribution: na Date: Fri, 9 Dec 94 17:34:51 GMT Message-ID: <1994Dec9.173451.26131@ve6mgs.ampr.org> References: <1994Dec8.220424.3019@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> znih!dbhinz (David Hinz) writes: >Need the e-mail address for Alex Nghiem author of "NeXTSTEP Programming >Concepts and Applications" Your address was unreachable, so here goes public what should only be said in private: ;-> Why not do a name serch of this group, I found 5 postings by him, the last one being only three days ago ... assuming it is the one and the same ... alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com Besides, I didn't like his book, I prefer Mahoney's (sp?) Ciao -- Mark
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Changing Shells (was Re: what app is accessing .cshrc) Date: 9 Dec 1994 15:21:16 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412092121.AA02561@alleg.EDU> I have received a lot of advice about how to go about changing my shell from csh to tcsh. However there are a few problems. First I do not use the same NeXT all the time. We have a campus full of them, so tcsh would have to be installed on each one, and then /etc/shells changed etc. I'm not going to ask my sys admin to do that for 300+ machines. It is perfectly fine for me and my purposes to have tcsh in my ~/Unix/bin and launch it via my .cshrc Actually, using Stuart I have Stuart launch it as my shell, so it's only with telnets that it becomes an issue. I appreciate everyone's help in trying to get me to be able to change my login shell, but this really is the easiest / most feasible way. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: WILL NEXTSTEP for PA-RISC ever mean NEXTSTEP on SGI? Date: 9 Dec 1994 20:49:59 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3caftn$n5e@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <3c7l5l$egv@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: sgi, pa-risc port >> Many of us adore SGI hardware. wouldn't it be nice >> if NeXTstep or at least OpenStep could happen on a >> Silicon Graphics machine? Only in the world hereafter could we hope for such perfection ... mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: laurent@planon.qc.ca (Laurent Daudelin) Subject: Looking for CASE tools Message-ID: <D0JuB1.Et@planon.qc.ca> Sender: usenet@planon.qc.ca Organization: Planon Telexpertise, Inc. Boucherville QUEBEC Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 15:13:49 GMT Hi all! We're beginning to look for a CASE tool that would assist us in object oriented design. We're looking for something that support the Booch method. We're willing to find a tool that will fit our needs, no matter on which platform it runs (Macintosh, Windows, NEXTSTEP naturally!). Any suggestion? Thanks in advance! Laurent -- ****************************************************************** Laurent Daudelin, Software Engineer Planon TELEXPERTISE Inc., Boucherville, Quebec, CANADA laurent@planon.qc.ca <-- NeXTMail welcome! (Mac Mail welcome too!) -- Yanik Crepeau Ce message represente que mon opinion Programmeur NeXTSTEP personnelle et n'engage en rien mon Planon Telexpertise organisation. This message represents Cable: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT) only my personnal view, my organisation
From: yoda@rescomp.Stanford.EDU (Terry Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Secure Credit Card Auth. HTTP server on NeXT? Date: 9 Dec 1994 21:55:21 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3cajo9$16p@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Has anyone heard anything about the possibilities of this? (Mosaic) Netscape Communications Corp says so far it's NetSite commercial server will only support BSDI 1.1 on Intel machines. :( Anyone know of any other options out there? Terry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: djc@vnp.com (Dan Crimmins) Subject: Re: All Usernames In-Reply-To: Charles William Swiger's message of Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13: 45:16 -0500 Message-ID: <DJC.94Dec9172053@nwk122_ocachi.vnp.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: VNP Software, Inc. References: <wiu_Kwi00iV5A6OWVC@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 23:20:53 GMT Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Really? > Nidump should be present and runnable by any user as it is installed by > default from the NEXTSTEP User CD-ROM. it's a pretty common trick at universities and corporations for certain binaries (including nidump) to be removed from the filesystem (or executable only by a restricted user or group) in the name of security. i presume that's the situation at allegheny. --d. -- dan crimmins vnp software
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: brad@instep.wimsey.com Subject: Re: All Usernames Message-ID: <1994Dec9.232030.7700@instep.wimsey.com> Sender: usenet@instep.wimsey.com (usenet) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <3c54lh$799@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 23:20:30 GMT Todd Nathan writes : The following ... : : nidump passwd / | awk -F\: '{print $1, ""}' : : will do the trick. Note this does NOT give list of ALL users; only network users. You'll have to do nidump passwd . | awk -F\: '{print $1, ""}' | sort on each host if you want users on a per machine basis. -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.com> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.questions Subject: at -- Job Name Date: 9 Dec 1994 17:06:05 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412092306.AA06159@alleg.EDU> I am wondering how to give my at-jobs names. Here is my atq listing: Rank Execution Date Owner Job # Job Name 1st Dec 10, 1994 03:00 luomat 57849 As you can see there is no job name. I did RTM but didn't find anything on it. I am putting things into the atq by: at -mc 300 NAME I'd like NAME to be the Job Name somehow, so if I need to remove a job from the atq I don't have to remove them all Any Ideas? thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: tdawson@memex.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy A. Dawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS3.3 & NCR/PCI/SCSI? Date: 9 Dec 1994 00:24:02 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c8832$6bp3@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Summary: Is it supported? Does anyone who has NS3.3 know whether the NCR PCI SCSI that comes with the DECpc is supported by the OS? Or is there an updated driver from Talus that works under 3.3? Or do I have to wait to upgrade? -- Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office 23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3.3 HCG Date: 10 Dec 1994 03:06:10 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <3cb5v2$gub@network.ucsd.edu> Is the 3.3 compatibility guide going to be on ftp.next.com sometime soon? -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: is it possible to read Acrobat files under NS? Date: 9 Dec 1994 10:43:18 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <3c9cc6$mj5@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <3c7r84INNlt8@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Bob Kurhajetz (rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil) wrote: : Checking to see if anyone is aware of a tool to read Adobe Acrobat PDF files under NEXTSTEP? Tailor. Not fully compatible, but it works most of the time.
From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Please Help: User's Group in Kuwait Date: 10 Dec 1994 04:40:02 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <3cbbf2$ga3@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.90.941204180547.29798A-100000@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> <D0FqwH.JHG@demon.co.uk> Gilad Ehven <b6933873@mail.wsu.edu> wrote: >Also, does anyone out there know about the extent to which NeXT is used >in Kuwait? Are there also other services for NeXT users in Kuwait other >than the user's group? I'm curious...are women allowed to use computers in Kuwait? Are they allowed to go online if they can use computers? Women in those kinds of countries have to see women doctors, and women doctors have to learn all of their skills and technology from women teachers, so there must be technologically advanced women in Kuwait. Someone told me there are women physicists, because women doctors cannot take physics courses from men in Kuwait or Saudi Arabia or etc. Does anyone know this? I know a few women NeXT users in Moscow. I wonder if we exist in the Muslim world....? -patricia
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Broken apps 3.0 --> 3.2 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 9 Dec 1994 15:47:39 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <3c9u6r$6tg@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cna't remember what all exactly broke app wise when I switched from 3.0 3.2 in our labs, but do remember it was enough to make me think of downgrading back to 3.0. Out of desperation at the time I looked at the problem, which NeXT had awknowledged was going to occur, and found a solution to it. Basicly, it caused Apps' to fire off and die for no apperent reason. Some investigation proved that it was a problem with missing shared libraries. I checked into various possible solutions, and came up with the following: I merely created an appropriate symlink... libvideo_s.A.shlib: symbolic link to libMedia_s.A.shlib Now I don't remember what all got busted, but I do remember utterly hating it. This may have been a 2.2 -->3.0 thing too. I simply don't recall. But what I did remember was that I'd totaly forgotten to tell anyone else about it! (Sorry) If this is of any help to anyone out there with older/legacy Apps that have been broken (God a year or 2 makes an App older/legacy? this is twisted!@) this may work for you. Tim
From: celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com (Cliff Elam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: %$##@#$!! SoftPC Date: 9 Dec 1994 18:26:50 GMT Organization: MCI Communications Message-ID: <3ca7ha$49j@hermes.dna.mci.com> References: <D0JsFG.ExM@madge1.demon.co.uk> In article <D0JsFG.ExM@madge1.demon.co.uk> mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton) writes: > Cliff Elam (celam@homebrew.cs.mci.com) wrote: > : Help - > > : I'm trying to run some communications software under SoftPC/DOS and the > : software works for a while and then SoftPC just terminates. The console has > > There is a NEXTSTEP kernel patch dating from around June this year that fixes > some "SoftPC just disapears" problems (assuming that you're running 3.2). It > might be worth investigating this. > I'm using SoftPC 4.0 and NS 3.2. Now I'm getting APT's from Windoze programs using the serial port. Sigh. -- Cliff Elam celam@bou.shl.com (NEXTMail) celam@radiomail.net (text only) Airedales and polar bears!
From: jgomezr@neptune.uucp (JL Gomez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS re-seller in FL Date: 9 Dec 1994 18:39:28 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <3ca890$175@nic-nac.CSU.net> I'm looking for a list of NeXTSTEP re-sellers in Florida. I had the name of one, but lost it. :( Thanks for the info! -- jgomezr@neptune.calstatela.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: All Usernames Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 13:45:16 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wiu_Kwi00iV5A6OWVC@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <9412091648.AA16468@alleg.EDU> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 9-Dec-94 Re: All Usernames by Tim Luoma@alleg.EDU > that worked. thanks. I don't have access to nidump and it doesn't > work on our system Really? 1% which nidump /usr/bin/nidump 2% ls -l /usr/bin/nidump -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 32768 Aug 18 1993 /usr/bin/nidump* 3% nidump passwd / | awk -F: '{print $1}' root nobody agent daemon uucp news sybase [ ... ] Nidump should be present and runnable by any user as it is installed by default from the NEXTSTEP User CD-ROM. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Date: 10 Dec 94 12:16:41 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? ZZ
From: doug@Glue.umd.edu (Douglas N. Cohen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: TransSys-PNI_1.13 connection to clark.net Date: 10 Dec 1994 14:58:42 -0500 Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Distribution: na Message-ID: <3cd19i$fo6@noise.eng.umd.edu> Summary: need some help Keywords: TransSys-PNI_1.13, SLIP/CSLIP, clark.net i am using a 68040 next color workstation and a zyxel u-1496e modem and TransSys-PNI_1.13 (registered copy) to try to connect to a dedicated 24hr. slip/cslip line on clark.net. from the pni.log, this is what i saw: Dec 10 09:54:05 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: dialer: Start of ZyXEL dialing script, dialing 5964696 Dec 10 09:54:06 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: Modem firmware version is 'U1496E V 5.05 M' Dec 10 09:54:08 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: Dialing (DTMF) 5964696 ... Dec 10 09:54:15 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: Ringing.. (0) Dec 10 09:54:34 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: Connected: CONNECT 38400/V32b 14400/V42b Dec 10 09:54:34 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: TTY tty: Dialer succeeded to 5964696 Dec 10 09:54:34 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: source /etc/pni/support/login-annex.tcl Dec 10 09:54:34 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: Begin annex login Dec 10 09:54:51 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready Dec 10 09:54:51 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: TTY tty: Login to 5964696 with annex failed expect timed out -- no contingency Dec 10 09:54:51 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: expect timed out -- no contingency\n while executing\n"error "expect timed out -- no contingency""\n invoked from within\n... Dec 10 09:54:51 rivendel pnid-pni0[381]: TTY tty: Drop DTR on serial port can anyone tell us what is it waiting for? why the time out... what is it expecting string? event? i can login to the personal slip account from noise.eng, and seem to not have a problem, however, when i tried to dial directly from the next via the modem, i get extra characters (ie: -M ^? etc....) inserted and long delays that eventually kill the login.... please reply to root@lorien.umd.edu subject line: transsys-pni thanks
From: mikef@hillres22.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Fleming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Date: 10 Dec 1994 21:14:01 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <3cd5mp$s26@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> In article <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) writes: > The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is > well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML > editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE > to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? > > ZZ Well, there are many aspects of this issue. Many people claim that you can't have a truly WYSIWYG HTML editor because no two browsers are quite alike. Fine. Then don't call it WYSIWYG. You can still call it graphical and you can still call it better than doing it by hand. Of course, some people will STILL swear by writing HTML by hand when these editors become available. <sigh> Some people just fear change... Anyway, I think there are a few graphical HTML editors that are being written for NeXTStep now. The current Nexus.app (the progression of the original app, still being worked on by Tim Berners-Lee) allows graphical editing, although it has a rather interesting interpretation of everything. eText.app allows graphical HTML editing, but it really wasn't designed to do HTML. Nonetheless, I think it has some really cool answers to the question of how a user interface for such an editor might work. There's a rumour (is this fact?) that the Omni Group is planning for OmniWeb to be both a browser and an editor. In addition, I know of at least one other person working on the problem... The question of a graphical HTML editor comes up often. I think it's humourous that there isn't such an application yet... The world has moved faster than software developers can move, perhaps? -- Mike | mikef@sonata.cc.purdue.edu Fleming | http://hillres22.cc.purdue.edu/~mikef "Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?"--T.S.Eliot "...shaped together in real-time: my television and my subconscious mind..."--Machines of Loving Grace
From: cfleming@alleg.edu (Chuck Fleming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: All Usernames Date: 10 Dec 1994 21:20:53 GMT Organization: Allegheny College Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cd63l$e2v@mustang.alleg.edu> References: <wiu_Kwi00iV5A6OWVC@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <wiu_Kwi00iV5A6OWVC@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 9-Dec-94 Re: All Usernames by > Tim Luoma@alleg.EDU > > that worked. thanks. I don't have access to nidump and it doesn't > > work on our system > > Really? > Not exactly. Nidump works fine here, but with the caveat that the permissions are set at 750. > Nidump should be present and runnable by any user as it is installed by > default from the NEXTSTEP User CD-ROM. > True, but after information obtained from nidump was misused, the permissions were quickly changed to 750 by the system administrators. Chuck
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 10 Dec 1994 16:37:58 -0500 Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <3cd73m$a1p@anshar.shadow.net> References: <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Z. Zhao (zhao@crl.nmsu.edu) wrote: : The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is : well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML : editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE : to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? Microsoft will be providing a Web browser/editor add-on for Word for Windows. The editor will allow for "WYSIWYG" HTML editing. I'd like to see Xanthus OpenWrite acquire such a feature. - Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Jayson Adams Subject: Re: Idle musings (Was: Re: NEXT INC. stock quotes ?) Message-ID: <1994Dec10.214113.29760@millennium.com> Sender: jayson@millennium.com Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc. References: <3bvf1m$g8d@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> <3c03s6$5fg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 21:41:13 GMT In article <3c03s6$5fg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Steve Weintz writes: > In article <3bvf1m$g8d@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com (Jeff > Wishnie) writes: > > > > > > > > In order for NeXT to go public, they'd need to put together a couple of > > > profitable quarters. > > > > HA! This was there biggest mistake! None of the new SilliValley companies > > wait for a profit! Heck, most don't even wait for a product. How much did > > GeneralMagic get when they went public about 1 year before ship? Or how > > about 3DO? > > > > Hmmm...aren't there a lot of ex-NeXTies at General Magic? Yes, there are. There are a lot of ex-NeXTers everywhere. BTW, General Mundane has not gone public, although they've filed to start the process, or something like that. > (Played with a Sony Magic Link the other day -- Extremely Cool. I don't know, wireline access only, slow modem, hideous interface. If mediocrity is the path to success (e.g. Microsoft), G.M. is going to hit it big. > Also, isn't 3DO just down the street? Yes (from NeXT). 3DO - a charismatic leader forms a company to produce a next generation product, convinces others to contribute lots of money, throws some of his own money in to prop the company up. Frightening parallels. They look like they're destined to be a footnote in history, just like NeXT is. __jayson
From: niteowl@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de (Werner J. Lilie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 12:58:25 +0100 Organization: Universitaet Stuttgart Message-ID: <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz> In article <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, wells_s@ix.wcc.govt.nz wrote: > Yeah, um, thanks for that - shouldn't this be in the binary groups!? Note : both files are a mere 18K in size.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: NeXT Mail... In-Reply-To: Olivier POTONNIEE's message of Fri, 9 Dec 1994 09:33:00 GMT To: Olivier POTONNIEE <olivier.potonniee@issy.cnet.fr> Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Dec9233755@freedom.princeton.edu> Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <3c7hh2$7fc@gateway.wiltel.com> <potonnie.94Dec910330@teck.cnetissy> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 04:37:54 GMT In article <potonnie.94Dec910330@teck.cnetissy> Olivier POTONNIEE <olivier.potonniee@issy.cnet.fr> writes: Chris Beegle wrote: >Is there anyway to include the ~/.signature file in NeXT Mail? Yes, you just have to get the freeware 'sendmail-addheadsig', that I found ... I don't remember where. Then you tell Mail.app to use it instead of 'sendmail', and it works : with non-NeXT mail it adds your ~/.signature, with NeXTMail it adds ~/.signature.rtf. You can also add a header. It is part of the mailapp-utilities which you can find on all the better NeXTstep ftp sites. Carl Edman
From: ee91mds2@brunel.ac.uk (Mark Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 10:58:35 GMT Organization: Mark's Risc PC with EtherB & Acorn TCP/IP. Distribution: world Message-ID: <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> In article <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, niteowl@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de (Werner J. Lilie) wrote: > Note : both files are a mere 18K in size. That makes no difference. It is bad netiquette to post binaries in discussion groups. Also, if you are downloading via a dial-up SLIP link, it takes a while to download 18K, time which the recipient is paying for. -- Mark Smith - Microelectronics Student & Acorn Software Developer. All comments reflect my personal thoughts only. I reserve the right to be wrong. .. Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free.
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Date: 11 Dec 94 13:46:38 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.787153598@coricopat> References: <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) writes: >The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is >well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML >editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE >to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? No, it's not. Of course you have to be a bit more generous with your interpretation of WYSIWYG, since every browser displays HTM differently. WYSIWYG editor for HTML IMHO means that elements are displayed according to their style, tags are invisible, and the user interface reflects the structure of the document rather then meaningless tags such as <DD>. Implementing it however is difficult, since HTML is a recursive language. This makes the user interface more complex, since it needs to reflect nesting levels. Simple text processing system like MircoSoft Word don't have nesting, and thus have a more simple user interface. Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Message-ID: <1994Dec11.143709.604@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. References: <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 14:37:09 GMT In article <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) writes: >The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is >well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML >editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE >to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? No, they're just being pedantic. Since HTML is a mark-up language, it doesn't define exactly what the document will look like when it is viewed. A HTML command might say for instance "the next bit of text will be in a proportional font", but will not specify the exact font. It's up to the viewer to use any proportional font they like. So a HTML editor would be not so much WYSIWYG as "What you see is pretty much what you get". Dave
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Date: 12 Dec 1994 01:16:18 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cg893$bpc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> In article <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) writes: > The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is > well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML > editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE > to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? Take a look at http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/NextStep/Status.html and judge for yourself. --- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 12 Dec 1994 00:47:49 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <3cgo65$buu@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online ---------------------------------------------------- A product directory and information server, built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online, and can be reached at http://www.stepwise.com/ http://www.digifix.com/ using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you access to the server as well. The entries currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs - User Group locations - Mailing List archives and information Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is available. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@stepwise.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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From: scholz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS3.3 & NCR/PCI/SCSI? Date: 12 Dec 1994 09:41:04 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ch5rg$68k@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <3c8832$6bp3@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Timothy A. Dawson (tdawson@memex.weeg.uiowa.edu) wrote: : Does anyone who has NS3.3 know whether the NCR PCI SCSI that comes with the : DECpc is supported by the OS? Or is there an updated driver from Talus : that works under 3.3? Or do I have to wait to upgrade? NCR SCSI is going to be supported under NS3.3. Talus said it also will write a special version of their NCR driver for NS3.3 CU, Boerny. ____________________________________________________________________________ Bernhard Scholz IRC: Boerny: #amiga, #next scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Amiga Developer (MAD) scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (if nothing works) Aminet admin, WWW admin Opinions are my own! (God said: E=mc^2 and --- there was light)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com> Subject: bMD Mail working again Message-ID: <1994Dec12.024106.5677@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 02:41:06 GMT benchMark Developments mail is once again working. Many thanks to Chris Myres at Starnet (St. Louis, MO) for handling the problem so quickly. For those of you that tried to send us email in the last 1-2 weeks, please resend and/or give us a call at the number below. Sincerely, Neil Greene --------------- benchMark Developments, Inc. 11970 Charter Oak Parkway, St Louis MO 63146 Phone: 314-872-2907 / 800-872-3131 Email: Neil@bMD.com [NeXT/Mime mail accepted]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: WILL NEXTSTEP for PA-RISC ever mean NEXTSTEP on SGI? Message-ID: <D0pBLG.CKF@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <3c7l5l$egv@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 14:15:16 GMT Christopher Penrose (penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu) wrote: : WILL NEXTSTEP for PA-RISC ever mean NEXTSTEP on SGI? : Many of us adore SGI hardware. wouldn't it be nice : if NeXTstep or at least OpenStep could happen on a : Silicon Graphics machine? Oh God, in the immortal words of Picard: "Make it so." I can get 4MB/sec read/write performance on huge files on an overloaded old SGI fileserver (w/24MB RAM). It makes NeXTSTEP's SCSI performance look like crap (which it is), compared to other UNIX's. SGI boxes excel in all areas of hardware performance, with the low-level systems in place to let you use the power from the software. IRIX (even at 5.2) leaves LOTS to be desired in an interface. An OpenStep port to IRIX would be like heaven, if done right; all the beautiful attention to performance, coupled with a powerful, intelligent interface. NAH! I'm just dreaming in technicolor. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
From: subbarao@concorde.fc.hp.com (Kartik Subbarao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: 12 Dec 1994 15:17:27 GMT Organization: Workstation Systems Division, Hewlett-Packard Distribution: world Message-ID: <3chpi7$ncs@tadpole.fc.hp.com> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> In article <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk>, Mark Smith <ee91mds2@brunel.ac.uk> wrote: >In article <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, > niteowl@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de (Werner J. Lilie) wrote: > >> Note : both files are a mere 18K in size. > >That makes no difference. It is bad netiquette to post binaries in >discussion groups. Also, if you are downloading via a dial-up SLIP link, it >takes a while to download 18K, time which the recipient is paying for. Quit your damn whining. Nobody's putting a gun to your head saying you have to read news. Watch more discussion be generated about this than the actual innocuous posting! -Kartik
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Bad network error upon bootup of stand-alone machine Date: 12 Dec 1994 15:32:09 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <3chqdp$24j@hermes.dna.mci.com> Hello there: I just replaced the power supply and EPROM (V74 from V70) on my turbo slab and I now get a "Bad network" error each time I boot up. I should point out I never saw this sequence with the old EPROM (the machine is a stand-alone machine with an Ethernet terminator on the back). At this point, it seems like I'm in a Catch-22 since I can't even bypass the boot sequence to change my configuration. I can replace the old EPROM and boot up as normal but the old EPROM prevented me from turning the slab off (I had to pull the power plug to power off - this eventually wore out the old power supply; hence, I had to replace the EPROM and power supply). Any suggestions? Please e-mail me directly since this is probably of little interest to the rest of netland. Thanks, - Alex -
From: e9027721@stud1.tuwien.ac.at (e9027721) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStep 3.2 GraphicsDriver Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 17:24:54 UNDEFINED Organization: TU-Wien, EDV-Zentrum Message-ID: <e9027721.1.00683D2E@stud1.tuwien.ac.at> Keywords: spea Has anyone expirienced if the NeXTStep 3.2 S3928-Graphicsdriver is usable for a Spea V7-Mirage (Vision864-Chip, 2MB, VLB). Or is there a possibility that a driver for this card is included in NeXTStep 3.3 UserRelease ?? I´m awaiting urgently the replies, because I don´t want to install Nextstep with the TryAndError-Method !!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com> Subject: gnutar/gzip man pages, sources Message-ID: <1994Dec12.164925.6673@afs.com> Sender: michael@afs.com Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 16:49:25 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Any text above this line is not part of the original message. - ----------------------------------------------------------- I'm looking for man pages for gnutar and gzip; anyone know where I can find them? I'd also like a copy of the sources, which I assume are on an ftp server at MIT somewhere. A more exact pointer? Thanx, Michael -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUBLux++gNA1dYvp7+lAQHCFwP8DBYmQkxcGanbf02XcI1I9P9t+Z4AlM7U JaeHpziICnKWbVnt+7kjQ04cFJMc7DC7q657RKbd9f+7Tq/47KHuYsAg7BOVcp8G wUFTRRwQ3G8gdZD4I/t5JcyJo8nrEoYBBh0b80oWq2xFrh3lctDIjXwnUMvllO3d UuCf/nC3FoA= =0H5t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Michael Pizolato, CTO Vox: 215/653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems Inc. I'm not fat, I'm MAB! Use PGP (the "electronic envelope") before Congress says you can't!
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 18:30:42 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3chpi7$ncs@tadpole.fc.hp.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Dec-94 Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (.. by Kartik Subbarao: >> That makes no difference. It is bad netiquette to post binaries in >> discussion groups. Also, if you are downloading via a dial-up SLIP link, >> it takes a while to download 18K, time which the recipient is paying for. > > Quit your damn whining. What "damn whining"? Everything said above is factually correct. > Nobody's putting a gun to your head saying you have to read news. I don't know about your job, Kartik, but I'm pretty much obligated to read the comp.sys.next newsgroups in order to stay current with my segment of the computer industry. Besides which, whether or not one has to read news has nothing to do with tolerating messages sent to inappropriate newsgroups. I don't want to read about the Green Card lottery, I don't want to hear about "How to Make Money Fast", and I don't want to encounter uuencoded gifs on comp.sys.next.misc. Is this clear, or is more explanation required? > Watch more discussion be generated about this than the actual innocuous > posting! Probably, although "innocuous" is certainly not the right word: in-noc-u-ous \in-'aHk-ye-wes\ adj [L innocuus, fr. in- + noce're] (1598) 1: producing no injury: HARMLESS 2: not likely to give offense or to arouse strong feelings or hostility: INOFFENSIVE, INSIPID (From Webster's Ninth New Colligiate Dictionary.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc From: wwt5491@ultb.isc.rit.edu (W.W. Toner ) Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Message-ID: <1994Dec12.231236.23610@ultb.isc.rit.edu> Sender: news@ultb.isc.rit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz> <3c9pc4$i21@crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 23:12:36 GMT In article <3c9pc4$i21@crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk> csuod@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Gareth Moore) writes: >In article <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, > wells_s@ix.wcc.govt.nz writes: >>Yeah, um, thanks for that - shouldn't this be in the binary groups!? > >No. It should be on your backdrop... > > > >-- >Gareth L Moore email: csuod@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Undergrad, University of Warwick, UK or gareth@dcs.warwick.ac.uk >Term: 61a, Regent Street, Leamington Spa, CV32 5EE (01926) 424365 >Home: 2, Pierrefondes Ave, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 8NF (01252) 523205 So how's about posting a smaller pic, I can't even view it. Heck, I can't even load it to change it myself! And I have 5M... ADPRO is a little too big for its own good. :) :)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: gnutar/gzip man pages, sources Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 20:55:54 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <kivDwem00WBMQAVKI8@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Dec12.164925.6673@afs.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Dec-94 gnutar/gzip man pages, sources by Michael Pizolato@afs.com > I'm looking for man pages for gnutar and gzip; anyone know where I > can find them? I'd also like a copy of the sources, which I assume > are on an ftp server at MIT somewhere. A more exact pointer? These programs are available via anonymous ftp at prep.ai.mit.edu: pub/gnu/tar-1.11.2.tar.gz pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.tar Note that the FSF does not consider having man pages to be important; they often only provide "info" pages, which can be read through Info mode in emacs by copying the info page into /usr/local/info and by editing /usr/local/info/dir. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: is it possible to read Acrobat files under NS? Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 22:23:06 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Distribution: world Message-ID: <941208222306.1634AACUe.malc@white> References: <3c7r84INNlt8@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Keywords: acrobat > Checking to see if anyone is aware of a tool to read Adobe Acrobat > PDF files under NEXTSTEP? > Yes, using Tailor, from FirstClass s/w. Ask OpenSource for details... Don;t worry about the fact that it's a commercial app and costs -- you'll be amazed at what Tailor can do, and it will repay itself more quickly than you'd imagine. Have fun, mmalc.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Academic bundle price for NS 3.3? Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 23:01:30 GMT Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University Sender: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Message-ID: <941210230130.497AACUG.malc@white> References: <3c8lfk$t73@nic-nac.CSU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Does NeXT offer an academic bundle price for NeXTSTEP 3.3? > I'm looking to get the development kit also. > I already asked NeXT -- they don't know yet... <sigh> Have fun, mmalc.
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: gnutar/gzip man pages, sources Date: 13 Dec 1994 10:25:46 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: inet Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Dec13102547@steffi.dircon.co.uk> References: <kivDwem00WBMQAVKI8@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Mon, 12 Dec 1994 20:55:54 -0500 >>>>> "CWS" == Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: CWS>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Dec-94 gnutar/gzip man CWS>pages, sources by Michael Pizolato@afs.com >>I'm looking for man pages for gnutar and gzip; anyone know where I >>can find them? I'd also like a copy of the sources, which I assume >>are on an ftp server at MIT somewhere. A more exact pointer? CWS>These programs are available via anonymous ftp at prep.ai.mit.edu: CWS>pub/gnu/tar-1.11.2.tar.gz CWS>pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.tar CWS>Note that the FSF does not consider having man pages to be important; CWS>they often only provide "info" pages, which can be read through Info CWS>mode in emacs by copying the info page into /usr/local/info and by CWS>editing /usr/local/info/dir. CWS>-Chuck In the interests of being complete you can actually get the texinfo distribution which contains a command line curses based info client. You don't necessarily need emacs to see info pages. -- "Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: mgilula@localhost (Marshall F. Gilula) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Black Hardware Handshaking Modem Cable Date: 13 Dec 1994 10:43:30 GMT Message-ID: <3cjtsi$ied@tequesta.gate.net> NNTP-Posting-User: mgilula (blush..) Anyone know where I can purchase a hardware handshaking cable for a 68040 (black) NeXT Color Slab? -73- private email, 800#'s, prices, flames, all gratefully accepted. -- Marshall F. Gilula, M.D "El que busca mucho nada encuentra, pero mgilula@gate.net el que busca nada mucho encuentra" NeRD#1054 Co-Founder, MiamiNUG ******standard disclaimers apply***** Carpe resurrectionem mortuorum
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need email address for Alex Nghiem Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 19:41:39 GMT Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University Sender: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Distribution: na Message-ID: <941212194139.229AACUa.malc@white> References: <1994Dec8.220424.3019@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> <1994Dec9.173451.26131@ve6mgs.ampr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Besides, I didn't like his book, I prefer Mahoney's (sp?) > Just to put in the opposing view: I prefer Alex's... It's certainly more relevant to NEXTSTEP 3+, and issues relating to multi- architecture programming get a worthy mention. Have fun, mmalc.
From: tseg@access1.digex.net (accounts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NextStep/Objective C Job opening in Washington DC Area. Followup-To: poster Date: 13 Dec 1994 08:15:29 -0500 Organization: The Software Engineering Group, LTD, MD USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3ck6ph$dqu@access1.digex.net> Summary: Can you please forward to whoever might be interested in NextStep/Objective C programming/design position The Software Engineering Group, LTD (TSEG), has several openings for software professionals/consultants. One opening with the following experiences: Required Desired -------------------------------------------------------------------- C++ Objective C UNIX Next Step Moderate (2+ years) OOD experience Heavy (4+ years) OOD experience BS CS/Eng. MS CS/Eng. 4+ years commercial experience 7+ years commercial experience DMS 100 simmon ED/SD Remaining openings require all of the above plus: Local Telephone Company experience Service supervisioning for class 5 (local) switch Sync Optical Network (SONET) Please fax your resumes to (301)829-2813 or send your correspondence to tseg@access.digex.net
From: chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christian Musinszki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RTF-conversion with fixrtf3.1 Date: 13 Dec 1994 15:13:52 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3ckdng$hqj@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Hello, I am trying to use a program, called fixrtf3.1, to convert a .rtf-file from MSDOS-WordPerfect into a NeXT-.r tf-file. The program fixrtf3.1 from Nik A Gervae is "shipped" with two filters that convert rtf-files from Mac to NeXT and vice versa. The filters for converting from other platforms are missing. Now i am looking for the missing filters for Dos->NeXT-conversion or for any other program that could do that converting-job. Because Nik A Gervae mail adress Nik_Gervae@ub.cc.umich.edu that came with the source-file has changed, i cannot adress him directly and so i put my question to the list. Any suggestio ns are wellcome... Chris Musinszki Tel. 06131/17 20 22 Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68 Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation (Universitaetskliniken Mainz) 55101 Mainz, Germany (email:chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de) or any other program that could do that converting-job. Because Nik A Gervae mail adress Nik_Gervae@ub.cc.umich.edu that came with the source-file has changed, i cannot adress him directly and so i put my question to the list. Any suggestio
From: rashidi@wmich.edu (Reza Rashidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: LaTeX2e installation error Date: 13 Dec 1994 16:39:43 GMT Organization: Western Michigan University Message-ID: <3ckiof$mfn@gumby.cc.wmich.edu> I get the following error while trying to run latex on ltxcheck.tex after installing LaTeX2e: article.cls in current directory! ! This file should not be run in a `system directory'. \@tempa ...uld not be run in a `system directory'} l.145 ...ld not be run in a `system directory'}}{} The file article.cls is in /NextLibrary/TeX/tex/inputs yet the error message is in response to running latex on ltxcheck.tex which is in a different directory. In spite of this error, LaTeX2e seems to work on other files. Any information about what is going on here is appreciated. -- Reza Rashidi rashidi@wmich.edu
From: mark@ccc1.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Internet Access to an Imagesetter? Date: 13 Dec 1994 18:14:51 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <3ckoar$bre@news.tamu.edu> Does anyone know of a printing company that has an internet connection and capable of doing film color seperations from files sent to them via NeXTMAIL or FTP? I am using Virtuoso 2.0 on a NeXTdimension. Thanks in Advance Mark A. Doucet TAMU
From: olly@mantis.co.uk (Olly Betts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Date: 13 Dec 1994 19:40:19 -0000 Organization: Mantis Consultants Ltd, Cambridge, UK Message-ID: <3cktb3$qs7@sunforest.mantis.co.uk> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3chpi7$ncs@tadpole.fc.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <3chpi7$ncs@tadpole.fc.hp.com>, Kartik Subbarao <subbarao@concorde.fc.hp.com> wrote: >In article <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk>, >Mark Smith <ee91mds2@brunel.ac.uk> wrote: >>In article <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, >> niteowl@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de (Werner J. Lilie) wrote: >> >>> Note : both files are a mere 18K in size. >> >>That makes no difference. It is bad netiquette to post binaries in >>discussion groups. Also, if you are downloading via a dial-up SLIP link, it >>takes a while to download 18K, time which the recipient is paying for. > >Quit your damn whining. Nobody's putting a gun to your head saying you have >to read news. Watch more discussion be generated about this than the >actual innocuous posting! Such discussion is an inevitable consequence of posting binaries in discussion groups, so it needs to be counted when tallying the true bandwidth cost. Olly -- suckSqueezeBANGblowsuckSqueezeBANGblowsuckSqueezeBANGblowsuckSqueezeBANGblow
From: c1inib@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Nigel Barrett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_B.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: 13 Dec 1994 20:04:25 GMT Organization: Delco Electronics Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ckuo9$oe4@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> References: <niteowl-0812940352200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Originator: c1inib@lviasv01 [ gif deleted (!) ] I've got an Intel Inside logo with a big red "NOT" stamped over it .... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Belgium man, Belgium" Nigel Barrett - Zaphod Beeblebrox c1inib@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
From: val@ruby.ora.com (Valerie Quercia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Contribute to Internet Tools book Date: 13 Dec 1994 17:12:30 -0500 Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cl68e$6i7@ruby.ora.com> Be a Contributor to "Internet User Tools" -- The Latest Book from O'Reilly & Associates If you've seen our books UNIX Power Tools and X User Tools, you know that we're developing a series of books consisting of tips, tricks and pointers to great freeware programs. We're now working on a follow-on book called Internet User Tools. Like its predecessors, Internet User Tools can be thought of as "hypertext in print" with short articles extensively cross-referenced to each other replacing the normal narrative or tutorial flow of a technical book. We're planning a cross-platform book focusing on Windows, Mac and UNIX (because even Mac and Windows users often have UNIX shell accounts as part of their Internet access). Each book is accompanied by a CD-ROM containing binaries for the various tools referenced in the book. We're also considering a second volume containing reference material (e.g. Man pages) for the programs contained on the disk. We're looking for submissions from the net community in numerous categories: 1. Articles for possible inclusion in the book. An article can be submitted in the form of a mail message (with similar constraints on length), and can describe something clever or useful you learned about: * your mail program * standard Internet tools such as telnet, ftp, or gopher * World Wide Web tools and techniques * neat freeware applications * neat Internet sites or information services * interoperability between information services like Compuserve, AOL, Prodigy and the Internet. Absolutely anything that would make an Internet user sit up and take notice is worth submitting. Each article should describe the subject in user terms. You don't need to worry about explaining all the background--though if there are relevant, related topics, you can feel free to submit a series of articles that cross-reference each other. If you need some samples of existing articles, and you haven't seen the earlier books, send mail to val@ora.com, and you'll receive some samples of articles that have already been written. 2. Shell, perl, tcl, expect or other scripts to automate, simplify or enable Internet-related applications. These might range from tools to automate ftp downloads to tools for consolidating logging server statistics. 3. Freeware programs that add to the Internet user's toolbox. Tools for system administrators will also be considered (though they will most likely be forwarded to the editors of the related book, System Administration tools). Tools can be for UNIX, Windows, DOS, or Macintosh platforms. If you're a big OS/2 Warp fan, you might persuade us to include that platform as well. We'll be looking to see whether tools are: * useful: does the tool really do something that's valuable? Does it do something that would be difficult to do otherwise? * easy to use: is it easy to understand what the tool does and how to use it? * well-documented: do you have a "man page" that describes what the tool does, including all the options, and examples? Submitting a tool implicitly gives ORA the right to redistribute it in binary and source form as "free software." Don't send us anything for which this will be a problem. (For example, we can't consider your entry if your employer insists that it owns any software you develop.) Our redistribution will be in keeping with the GNU General Public License, so copylefted software is welcome. So what happens if you send us something and we like it? 1. We'll let you know pretty quickly if what you sent is on the right track, if it needs further revision, or overlaps something we've already got. 2. If we like it a lot, we'll breathe down your neck to get you to write more for us :-) This is a pretty good chance to explore what it takes to be a published author without a major investment of time and energy. If you write one good article, perhaps you can write more. And if you can do that, we'll explore if you can write other things for us, act as a technical reviewer for our books, or otherwise become more involved in what we do. 3. If we include your work in the book/CD-ROM, you'll get a free copy of the book (about a $50 value) and a small fee to boot. Here's how the fees are determined: We set aside $40,000 as a royalty advance for the book. When the book is finished, this amount will be pro-rated among all of the people whose submissions were accepted, on the basis of the word count of the material they submitted. For UNIX Power Tools, with 896 articles, this worked out to about $45 on average per article. For those who submit only one or two articles (equivalent to writing one or two thoughtful mail messages in effort), that's the end of the story. For anyone who gets significantly involved in the project and contributes more than 5% of the total book, though, this amount is treated as a royalty advance, and you will get a pro-rata share of the royalties on the book, again in proportion to the amount you contributed. Of course, the real reason for doing this isn't the money (because with so many authors, there's not that much to go around) but to help out your fellow Internet users with what you've learned. That you get to try out your hand at writing and see your name in print is a nice plus. What about the software writers? Well, it's hard to figure out a pro-rata ratio of anything on software, since size isn't the measure of value, and a lot of the software in question is floating around free on the net anyway. However, if your software appears in the book, you'll get ten free copies of the book (so you can give them away to your friends). Plus, if you write up your software, you'll get the same benefits as the other authors of the book. In addition, if you've created something we judge to be the "best tool" of the bunch, we'll treat you to a shopping spree from the catalog of O'Reilly & Associates publications. Send submissions (and questions, if necessary) by January 13 to tool-hunt@ora.com. That date may get extended, but for now, we're shooting to have a complete first draft of the book by the end of January. P.S. Pass this message along to your friends or send us mail to suggest knowledgeable people we should be in touch with about the book. -- Valerie Quercia : val@ora.com : UUCP: uunet!ora.com!val O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. : 90 Sherman Street : Cambridge, MA 02140 617-354-5800 : (FAX) 617-661-1116
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Looking for CASE tools Date: 14 Dec 1994 01:25:30 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <3clhia$j17@hermes.dna.mci.com> References: <D0JuB1.Et@planon.qc.ca> In article <D0JuB1.Et@planon.qc.ca>, Laurent Daudelin <laurent@planon.qc.ca> wrote: >Hi all! > >We're beginning to look for a CASE tool that would assist us in object >oriented design. We're looking for something that support the Booch >method. We're willing to find a tool that will fit our needs, no matter >on which platform it runs (Macintosh, Windows, NEXTSTEP naturally!). > >Any suggestion? > >Thanks in advance! > >Laurent > >-- >****************************************************************** >Laurent Daudelin, Software Engineer >Planon TELEXPERTISE Inc., Boucherville, Quebec, CANADA >laurent@planon.qc.ca <-- NeXTMail welcome! (Mac Mail welcome too!) >-- >Yanik Crepeau Ce message represente que mon opinion >Programmeur NeXTSTEP personnelle et n'engage en rien mon >Planon Telexpertise organisation. This message represents >Cable: yanik@planon.qc.ca (NeXT) only my personnal view, my organisation Yanik: I've used Rose 1.1 and 2.5 (get this version if you can!) with good success. (Stay away from versions before 2.0 - they are bug-ridden). There are still some things missing (such as complete support for Obj-C) but it's a good value for the price. I've also used Diagram! with a custom palette (that contained Booch components) but that lacked the model validation (among other things) which a CASE tool can provide. 2.5 adds some new nice features such as: given a class, find all classes that uses it (useful for dependencies) interaction scripts (borrowed from Jacobson) smarter object diagrams (no more manual numbering!) If you want, I can forward a demo disk for Rose 2.0 (2.5 doesn't have a demo disk yet). No, I don't work for Rational. Their rep was here a week ago and left us tons of sample disks. As a final note, keep in mind that while the Booch notation is very good, there are still a lot of things which you cannot capture with it. These include iteration, flow control, exception handling, et al. You can use text for this but there's no explicit support for these things. - Alex -
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Academic bundle price for NS 3.3? Date: 14 Dec 1994 01:13:27 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <3clgrn$29q@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <3c8lfk$t73@nic-nac.CSU.net> <941210230130.497AACUG.malc@white> Alembic is selling a NS 3.3 bundle, consisting of 3.3 basic and 3.2 developer. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc From: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk (Paul Civati) Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Organization: My bedroom somewhere in London, a PC and a phoneline. Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 00:20:21 +0000 Message-ID: <787364421snz@xciv.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> niteowl@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de "Werner J. Lilie" writes: > > Yeah, um, thanks for that - shouldn't this be in the binary groups!? > > Note : both files are a mere 18K in size. Somehow I did not receive these msgs, where can I the files? -Paul- -- /* ||| Internet: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk, paul.civati@mettav.exnet.com */ /* / | \ FYI my surname is pronounced 'sivarty' ;-) Civ on IRC */ /* ST & PC Like a thief in the night, see the world by candlelight */ /* Owner I think the phrase ryhmes with "clucking bell" - Blackadder */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: is it possible to read Acrobat files under NS? Message-ID: <espritD0s7DG.95p@netcom.com> Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List References: <3c7r84INNlt8@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 03:36:52 GMT Bob Kurhajetz (rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil) wrote: : Checking to see if anyone is aware of a tool to read Adobe Acrobat PDF : files under NEXTSTEP? I am working on Acrobat-like utilities for NS, but unfortunately the paying work is taking all of my time. Anyone care to fund my work :-) -- Alan F. Perry Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List esprit@netcom.com
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Message-ID: <1994Dec14.120912.36004@waikato.ac.nz> Date: 14 Dec 94 12:09:12 +1300 References: <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu> Distribution: world Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand In article <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Dec-94 Re: > insel_intide_A.gif.uu (.. by Kartik Subbarao: >>> That makes no difference. It is bad netiquette to post binaries in >>> discussion groups. Also, if you are downloading via a dial-up SLIP link, >>> it takes a while to download 18K, time which the recipient is paying for. >> >> Quit your damn whining. > > What "damn whining"? Everything said above is factually correct. Where is it written that "discussions" shall be conducted exclusively in the English language and restricted to 7-bit ASCII? Lawrence D'Oliveiro fone: +64-7-856-2889 Computer Services Dept fax: +64-7-838-4066 University of Waikato electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz Hamilton, New Zealand 37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+13:00
From: okidz@ccs.neu.edu (Oki D Zakaria) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: can't restart Date: 14 Dec 1994 06:49:02 GMT Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University. Message-ID: <3cm4gu$bmu@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> What is the magic behind clicking the Restart or Power button on the login panel? I can only power off my NS/Intel machine by "shutdown -h now". Okidz
From: macdiver@interaccess.com (Robert J. Rockefeller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Boot disk? Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 17:46:40 -0500 Organization: RockSoft Solutions Message-ID: <macdiver-1312941746400001@nb-dyna24.interaccess.com> A friend of mine has a NeXTstation with a hard disk problem. He is looking for a NeXT boot floppy so he can try and find the problem as the system simply will not boot now. I have a Macintosh and can't help him. If any of you could make such a disk for him, please email me. Thanks, Bob -- Robert J. Rockefeller macdiver@interccess.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com> Subject: Re: at -- Job Name Message-ID: <1994Dec13.175248.1838@afs.com> Sender: michael@afs.com Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. References: <9412092306.AA06159@alleg.EDU> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 17:52:48 GMT Tim Luoma writes >I am wondering how to give my at-jobs names. Here is my atq >listing: > > Rank Execution Date Owner Job # Job Name > 1st Dec 10, 1994 03:00 luomat 57849 > >As you can see there is no job name. I did RTM but didn't find >anything on it. > >I am putting things into the atq by: >at -mc 300 NAME > >I'd like NAME to be the Job Name somehow, so if I need to remove >a job from the atq I don't have to remove them all > >Any Ideas? You can remove individual jobs by job number: atrm <number> Job names are assigned by 'at' based on the name of the file you submit. They're not very useful except as information. Thanx, Michael -- Michael Pizolato, CTO Vox: 215/653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems Inc. I'm not fat, I'm MAB! Use PGP (the "electronic envelope") before Congress says you can't!
From: cgra@se.bel.alcbel.be (Chris Gray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: 14 Dec 1994 10:12:53 GMT Organization: Never was my forte Sender: cgra@btma74 (Chris Gray) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cmgf5$rg1@btmplq.god.bel.alcatel.be> References: <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: [blah blah blah] I just weighed that junk and it came to 5686 bytes... ;> __________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gray cgra@btma74.se.bel.alcatel.be Compu$erve: 100065,2102 __________________________________________________________________________
From: clune@pasta.world (Thomas L. Clune) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WYSIWIG editors for nextstations Date: 14 Dec 1994 00:14:47 GMT Organization: JILA, University of Colorado at Boulder Distribution: world Message-ID: <CLUNE.94Dec13171447@pasta.world> While I am perfectly happy using emacs and TeX on my nextstation (using 3.1), it would be nice if I had a WYSIWIG editor for my wife to use. Once upon a time, WriteNow came with the Next, but I am completely unaware of what my options are. Is there a reasonably good public/shareware word processor for my hardware? Is there a commercial provider of such a product? If so, can someone tell me how to contact such a provider? Thanks ever so much, - Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tom Clune email:clune@solarz.colorado.edu Work: JILA, Campus Box 440 Home: 4860 Meredith Way Apt. 103 University of Colorado Boulder, CO 80303 Boulder, CO 80309 (303) 545-6482 (machine) (303) 492-7851 (Office A-504) (303) 492-8769 (Lab) (303) 492-5235 (Fax) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tom Clune email:clune@solarz.colorado.edu Work: JILA, Campus Box 440 Home: 4860 Meredith Way Apt. 103 University of Colorado Boulder, CO 80303 Boulder, CO 80309 (303) 545-6482 (machine) (303) 492-7851 (Office A-504) (303) 492-8769 (Lab) (303) 492-5235 (Fax) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: terence@sfsc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: help! Serial port problems Date: 13 Dec 1994 22:02:39 GMT Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona Message-ID: <3cl5lv$lj9@maple.enet.net> I have a server (turbo mono) that is having trouble with the serial ports. Port B recently had NXFax removed from it. There is now no DTR light on any modem not attached to it hence any modem attached to it will *not* answer unless tip or some other communications program is using it. Port A is used for uucp. It used to have a Telebit Trailblazer attached to it. We replaced this modem with a Microcom Deskporte Fast and/or a Telebit Worldblazer and neither will work! When one logs in, the system will not allow one to login (I have this trouble occasionally with a TurboCOlor using a Zyxel). If one gets past this stage, it just gives garbage. Question: Are any files corrrupted? gettytab, L.sys, L-devices? Would appreciate if you would e-mail replies/suggestions to terence@sfsc.com Thanks very much for any help you can offer
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Academic bundle price for NS 3.3? Date: 14 Dec 94 11:30:25 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.787404625@coricopat> References: <3c8lfk$t73@nic-nac.CSU.net> <941210230130.497AACUG.malc@white> <3clgrn$29q@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: >Alembic is selling a NS 3.3 bundle, consisting of 3.3 basic and 3.2 developer. That's cool. Hard to believe though, since NeXT says 3.3 Dev. is still in beta. In any case, could you give us contact information? Rgds, Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_B.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: 14 Dec 94 11:33:34 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.787404814@coricopat> References: <niteowl-0812940352200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3ckuo9$oe4@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> c1inib@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Nigel Barrett) writes: >I've got an Intel Inside logo with a big red "NOT" stamped over it .... Upload it! (and tell us where you put it) I could place it on our WWW Server if you like. And can we move the .uu flame war to .advocacy, or better to /dev/null? Rgds, Chris -- "I ride tandem with a random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: Geoff Hopson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: EOAdaptor/DBAdaptor for VAX RMS, anyone? Date: 14 Dec 1994 16:12:02 GMT Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK Message-ID: <3cn5gi$8cq@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't laugh! Honest, somebody has a stack of RMS indexed files on a VAX, and wants to "beautify" the UI using NEXTSTEP. So, has anyone managed to create an adaptor to remotely access these beasts? I know there are some flat file adaptors about - is there any source code for them in the public domain that can be tweaked? Thanks in advance. Geoff --- ____________________________________________________________________ Geoff Hopson | e-mail: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk Intelligence Software Systems | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah B67 / Room G11 | * BT NeXTSTEP Users Group * Telephone (01473) 644380 | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah/nextstep -------------------------------------------------------------------- "When you're in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut!" (anon)
From: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu (Costas Malamas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Preferences won't read defaults right... Date: 14 Dec 1994 11:15:26 -0500 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cn5mu$2tb@acmey.gatech.edu> I have posted before about this, and I got back some good ideas, but none of them worked. Here's my problem: due to the NS installation, that I can neither change or redo (NS 3.0), Preferences.app will not read the defaults database on login. What happens, is that while the Defaults are set right (double- and triple-checked that), Preferences will not read the database at all... So... is there an alternative way to set the defaults (by-pass Preferences altogether?)? Thanx in advance.... -- costas malamas ________________________________________________________ OIT UA -- my opinions do not reflect those of OIT internet: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu engineers never lie; we just approximate the truth.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello) Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Message-ID: <D0rLw1.3BL@pages.com> Sender: greg@pages.com (Greg Kostello) Organization: Pages Software Inc References: <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 19:52:49 GMT In article <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) writes: > The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is > well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML > editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE > to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? > > ZZ The short answer is that to get WYSYWIG display, you need to know the element specifications of the audiences' browser. Since the specifications are different for each browser and are user settable, the author cannot be sure of how text will be displayed. Having said this, there are a number of leading browsers including NetScape, Mosaiac, etc, which have predefined looks which most people will probably choose not to modify. Moreover, some browsers have stylesheets which allow you to change the look to mimic the standard settings of other browsers. So you can have WYSIWYG for a particular browsers' default settings. <!-- WARNING! subtle Pages plug follows --> In the Pages HTML Design Model, we have chosen standard looks for the different element types so its really WYSIMLWOG -- What You See Is Most Likely What Others Get ;). We allow the user to export different element types as images in order to preserve as much of the original look as possible and allow the user to place items such as tables until the HTML 3.0 specification concerning tables has been solidified. The HTML 2.0 specification specifically does not address font family and size information. The current implementation specifies content not form except for a few exceptions such as <B> for bold and <I> for italic. Furthermore they strongly suggest content alternatives such as <STRONG> and <EM>. In the future, you will probably see stylesheet specifications which _suggest_ the authors original intention but allow anyone to view the contents :). Even when the stylesheet specification is finalized, you are bound to see variations in display. For example, the Mac version of Helvetica may be slightly different the Windows or the NeXT version. Therefore, you are going to get different word spacing and consequently different text reflow and therefore different layout. Of course, in order to get standardized reflow, the column specification will have to author settable. My guess is that eventually the HTML specification will have all these settings, but not in the near term. The beauty of the HTML content specification is that the user can choose different "looks" for his document without changing the contents. The look is specified idependent of the content. This is both the HTML model and the Pages model. ------------------------------------------- Greg Kostello Software Engineer greg@pages.com Pages Software Inc NeXT mail accepted (619) 492-9050x217 http://www.pages.com/
From: mikmak@stack.urc.tue.nl (Jean-Paul Mikkers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT FAQ ? Date: 9 Dec 1994 18:47:24 GMT Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands. Message-ID: <3ca8ns$37e@tuegate.tue.nl> Hi, Could someone tell me if there's a NeXT faq on the 'history of NeXT - How it came to be' or something similar?. Thanks. mikmak@stack.urc.tue.nl
From: tpg@mr.net (Terry Gliedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI tape error Date: 14 Dec 1994 14:55:58 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <4ivpn1Fz000100T3t6@mr.net> I recently picked up a Wangtek 5125SC SCSI tape drive (120MB). This works fine on my Linux system, but when I put it on my black NeXTstation (NS 3.1) I get the following: st: cmd=0x15 sr_io_status=2H sense key=0x5 Sed code=0x0 The tape is on SCSI address 5 (two disk drives are at 0 and 1). I have a vague recollection it is necessary to put the tape into some particule "mode" (or whatever) and for some tape drives you need to run a small program. I've gone through all the NeXT files I've ever saved, past posts etc and cannot find any reference to what I think I recall. So is this correct? Or can someone suggest something else I should be doing? And a pointer to the program (or mailing it to me) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! =================================================================== Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710
From: vdemarco@whatnow.fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Vince DeMarco) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Looking for CASE tools Date: 14 Dec 1994 20:48:23 GMT Organization: MCI Communications Message-ID: <VDEMARCO.94Dec14134823@whatnow.fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com> References: <D0JuB1.Et@planon.qc.ca> <3clhia$j17@hermes.dna.mci.com> In-reply-to: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com's message of 14 Dec 1994 01:25:30 GMT >>>>> "Alex" == Alex Nghiem <alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com> writes: In article <3clhia$j17@hermes.dna.mci.com> alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) writes: Alex> In article <D0JuB1.Et@planon.qc.ca>, Laurent Daudelin Alex> <laurent@planon.qc.ca> wrote: Alex> In article <D0JuB1.Et@planon.qc.ca>, Laurent Daudelin Alex> I've used Rose 1.1 and 2.5 (get this version if you can!) Alex> with good success. (Stay away from versions before 2.0 - Alex> they are bug-ridden). There are still some things missing Alex> (such as complete support for Obj-C) but it's a good value Alex> for the price. I've also used Diagram! with a custom palette Alex> (that contained Booch components) but that lacked the model Alex> validation (among other things) which a CASE tool can Alex> provide. 2.5 adds some new nice features such as: What is needed is a NEXTSTEP CASE program, not some cheezy windows/os2 product that has a funky interface which no-one can understand. Right now we are being forced to use Rose on a project, and trying to rebel. The Mangler said that he would be willing to get a NEXTSTEP CASE tool but I don't know of any. Can anyone save us???????????? vince (vdemarco@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com)
From: olli@bccmsa.bc.ic.ac.uk (Mr. O.Coutelle (NIMR)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Talk deamon? Date: 14 Dec 1994 22:39:12 GMT Organization: National Institute for Medical Research Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cns6g$1ov@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hallo Netters, I have been trying to establish a 'talk' connection between our Spark10 running SunOS and a friend of mine on a NeXT cuberunning NS3.2 I believe, but the talk deamons seem to be incompatible. can somebody confirm this? Any solutions? Thanks in advance. Oliver Coutelle
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Mail... Date: 14 Dec 1994 20:31:12 -0600 Organization: Otherwise Message-ID: <3co9pg$dp9@lia.bga.com> References: <3c7hh2$7fc@gateway.wiltel.com> In article <3c7hh2$7fc@gateway.wiltel.com>, Chris Beegle <gbeegle@nxtul111.wiltel.com> wrote: >Is there anyway to include the ~/.signature file in NeXT Mail? > >-- >************************************************************ >Chris Beegle >ID - Chris_Beegle@Wiltel.com >NeXT ID - gbeegle@wiltel13.wiltel.com >PC Support @ WilTel Int. >One Williams Center 29-2 Get TickleServices off the archives (ftp.cs.orst.edu). It has a bunch of Mail services including inserting your .signature. Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world. bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands (NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [sendmail] 554 luomat... Recipient names must be specified Date: 14 Dec 1994 19:22:35 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412150122.AA23003@alleg.EDU> can anyone interpret what 554 luomat... Recipient names must be specified means? It is the error message I (luomat) get back when I try to send out mail using a filter I have set up. The message looks entirely intact, but something seems to be broken. To me the message would seem to say that sendmail can't figure out who to send the message to, but I'm not sure why that would be (well besides the obvious possibility that my hacking/tinkering is very poorly designed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: max@chernobog.wa.com (David Fedchenko) Subject: Getting psutils to work Message-ID: <D0Dw5v.5yG@chernobog.wa.com> Sender: max@chernobog.wa.com (David Fedchenko) Organization: Sativum Studio Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 10:08:19 GMT Hi, I've installed the whole psutils package and am now having problems getting things to print correctly. I'm trying to use psbook and psnup to create an 8" x 5.5" book, but I'm not getting the 2-up orientation I should. Instead, I'm only getting the page that would be on the right half of the page, and it's full sized. If I also try to use psselect so I can run the paper through twice to get both sides printed, I only get the original odd or even pages, full sized. If I look at the files with Preview.app they look like I expect - the filters are working correctly. I'm amazed to find that the printer isn't agreeing. I'm running a 3.2 NeXTcube with a NeXTprinter. I have the book in PasteUp, although it also doesn't work with Edit files. Anybody have the solution to this? Anybody have the problem? thanks, max... -- .......................................................................... David Fedchenko Theatrical Improvisation & Software Design max@chernobog.wa.com NeXTmail capable
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc From: tez@tezboyes.demon.co.uk (Terrance Richard Boyes) Followup-To: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc References: <niteowl-0812940352200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3ckuo9$oe4@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> Organization: Home Distribution: world Subject: Re: insel_intide_B.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 20:13:48 +0000 Message-ID: <9412142013.AA006q5@tezboyes.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk Nigel Barrett (c1inib@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com) wrote: Can whoever posted these gifs do the following things a) stop b) stop cross-posting to 7 different newsgroups c) stop right now -- ,=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=. | Email:) tez@tezboyes.demon.co.uk + do what you say say what you think + | `= Warning Random Fortune Sig follows -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=' Fiery energy lanced out, but the beams struck an intangible wall between the Gubru and the rapidly turning Earth ship. "Water!", it shrieked as it read the spectral report. "A barrier of water vapor! A civilized race could not have found such a trick in the Library! A civilized race could not have stooped so low! A civilized race would not have..." It screamed as the Gubru ship hit a cloud of drifting snowflakes. -- Startide Rising, by David Brin
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Scanner for Next (FIP)? Date: 15 Dec 1994 15:50:05 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3cpojd$7s7@potogold.rmii.com> References: <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net> In article <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net> terence@sfsc.com writes: > My Next fan (freak) boss asked me to find out if there are any scanners > for Next machines out there. I guess since the oem h/w is port-limited, > the obvious solutions would be on a 80x86 machine. > > Question: > > Are there any scanners that are supported by whatever Next software that > will work this way? > > Or do I have to scan the stuff under a DOS/Windows window (SoftPC) or in > native mode (with dual boot) and then reboot to Nextstep and use the file > from there? > > Thanks, > You're in luck, both ScanTastic by Second Glance and ScanOmatic by interpersonal-computing support many of the most popular scanners avaiable (HP, Epson, Umax, HSD, etc.). Let me know if you'd like more information. -- Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc. <dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for (NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions 1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [sendmail] 554 luomat... [SOLVED!!!!] Date: 15 Dec 1994 10:26:25 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412151625.AA28410@alleg.EDU> Thanks to the many people who replied. The solution was very simple (once you know what you're doing, most things are easy). For anyone who is interested, the answer is below (thanks to Paul Lynch <Paul.Lynch@gf.barclays.co.uk> for providing it) When you execute sendmail in your script, you need to do it like this: #!/bin/sh /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" This passes all parameters given to your script on to sendmail, and which happen to be the recipient addresses. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: reverse video on NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Dec15.123620.500@titan.sfasu.edu> From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Date: 15 Dec 94 12:36:20 CST Organization: As little as I can get away with... Are there NeXT equivalents of "tput smso" and "tput rmso" for reversing video?
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Followup-To: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.atari.st Date: 15 Dec 1994 14:01:16 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cpi7c$761@elna.ethz.ch> References: <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Dec14.120912.36004@waikato.ac.nz> Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University (ldo@waikato.ac.nz) wrote: : Where is it written that "discussions" shall be conducted exclusively in : the English language and restricted to 7-bit ASCII? Look out for the Netiquette file. Maybe you'll also find some pointers in the description file for this newsgroup. Hope this helps. - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome) PGP public key on request
From: bobs@pth3.bu.edu (Robert Singleton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: thin-net problem Date: 15 Dec 1994 20:06:14 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <3cq7jm$25v@news.bu.edu> Hi, I'm having some trouble connecting my NeXT up to the network with a 10-base-T ethernet cable. When I use this thick cable, the network is unreachable. However, if I use an adaptor box that converts the 10-base-T into thin, I have no problem. Does anyone know what's going on here? At one time I thought this might be a hardware problem, but I've connected another NeXT up in my office and the same thing happens. I know that one of the machines was at one time configured using thin ethernet cable, and the other one was very likely connected this way at one time. Does the NeXT remember how it was previously connected? It seems very unlikely that I have a hardware problem (NeXT or ethernet), so it seems that I should be looking for a software problem. Any info would be greatly appreciated. regards, -- bob bobs@cthulu.bu.edu
Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.atari.st Followup-To: junk References: <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu> Organization: gelasma systems Distribution: world From: holler@holli.link-ch1.ch (Jan Holler) Message-ID: <holler.0kj8@holli.link-ch1.ch> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 94 23:38:09 MET Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote in <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu>: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Dec-94 Re: > insel_intide_A.gif.uu (.. by Kartik Subbarao: > >> That makes no difference. It is bad netiquette to post binaries in > > Quit your damn whining. > I don't want to read about the Green Card lottery, I don't want to hear > about "How to Make Money Fast", and I don't want to encounter uuencoded > gifs on comp.sys.next.misc. Is this clear, or is more explanation > required? I definitely second your opinion. Keep the (unspoken) rules! -jan PS: Followup-To: junk
From: tm8025a@american.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Talk deamon? Date: 15 Dec 1994 20:51:53 GMT Organization: The American University, Washington DC Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cqa99$pti@paladin.american.edu> References: <3cns6g$1ov@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <3cns6g$1ov@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> olli@bccmsa.bc.ic.ac.uk (Mr. O.Coutelle (NIMR)) writes: :Hallo Netters, : :I have been trying to establish a 'talk' connection between our Spark10 running SunOS :and a friend of mine on a NeXT cuberunning NS3.2 I believe, but the talk deamons :seem to be incompatible. can somebody confirm this? Any solutions? : :Thanks in advance. :Oliver Coutelle Sun may use a version of talk that is incompatiable. There are two versions I belive. Try using ytalk. It has a better interface and works with all versions of talk. Dont quote me on that though. Try finding it precommpilied at orst or one of the other sites. If worse comes to worse I could probably NeXTMail it to you. Torrey McMahon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jlc@trax.cb.att.com (John L. Chmielewski) Subject: Re: SCSI tape error Message-ID: <D0vEwt.Hxv@nntpa.cb.att.com> Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration) Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida References: <4ivpn1Fz000100T3t6@mr.net> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 21:12:28 GMT In article <4ivpn1Fz000100T3t6@mr.net>, Terry Gliedt <tpg@mr.net> wrote: >I recently picked up a Wangtek 5125SC SCSI tape drive (120MB). This >works fine on my Linux system, but when I put it on my black NeXTstation >(NS 3.1) I get the following: > >st: cmd=0x15 sr_io_status=2H > sense key=0x5 Sed code=0x0 > >The tape is on SCSI address 5 (two disk drives are at 0 and 1). > >I have a vague recollection it is necessary to put the tape into some >particule "mode" (or whatever) and for some tape drives you need to run >a small program. I've gone through all the NeXT files I've ever saved, >past posts etc and cannot find any reference to what I think I recall. > >So is this correct? Or can someone suggest something else I should be >doing? And a pointer to the program (or mailing it to me) would be >greatly appreciated. Thanks! I connected a Wangtec 125 MB tape drive to NeXT hardware in 1991, and experienced the same problems. I now run NEXTSTEP on Intel hardware, and had the same problem with the tape drive, so I dusted off my setmtd.c program and compiled it. The tape drive now works. The problem is that the tape driver needs to be set to a fixed block size of 512 bytes, otherwise "i/o errors" is returned. The program, setmtd, needs to be run after each reboot, so I added it to /etc/rc.local. The program has been around a long time and it has been improved upon by several other people. If you check the archives, you should find it and and an improved version in a collection of scsi programs called scsitools.tar.Z. The following uuencoded tar archive contains setmtd.c and a FAT binary, intel and next hardware only, for those people that do not have a compiler. The compiled version expects the tape drive to be at /dev/rst0. John L. Chmielewski jlc@attmail.com begin 644 setmtd.tar.gz M'XL(`!FL\"X``^V<;VQ3UQF'C\.]X%A9%Z&TS:I2S@+K');X3TA":!-J(&8) MA-@D!K*.88)]DQ@2F_DZ0#JHTJ6HLS*F;).V?=@F54/[TJF*M$FC$YJR%0DT M516;^J$?JJE:H?)$F#JI6A&R\'[GQDD<<%PT%8JFWR/=//?\>=][?'WB+]>O M32,UDHJZ(N(^XO5XFAL;I9!2>O.6TI,W^CQ-C5(V-6]J]#8T;?0V6SV;O$)Z M[N>BYADU4_U)*<61X=+WX,2080P_B`4]6-P;''*#-*U=(.O5B>S=WMLI4_W' M#!E-QHX;29E*R'XY$#MI1.7AX43DJ#1C+Q@(*S\\)G<FAN*RRR6W#XW$C&'C MA'DTID9"HX;<81R6WLUU.#9[5=_N1#0V$#.BS\C=B;C<.CHH-WJLT8T2B7#_ MY4`B*;O]?:'>D#\H-[JLJ$A$UB<6%MB?C`S)D>:6H_G3V,:6YOR@*X+I;H=C M72P>&1Z-&K)U(!)/#;N&MA1TF6.F.S5VS#"7=D>-XVXS8L:2QJ`:<*R+&@.Q MN"%[>D/M_GV=V_WE-6XU)YXT4YZ:A>%M78'MNWH[G_>7-WD;'(Z1_EC<6>OX MCJ,\%D_)@6B==:-DV^*\9QT8&Y!.YT`4W8EC1MRY<(DZ&0CWM._OJ:V5K=)3 MZRA'GO)C1C*92"Y.JGT6G<;)6,KI5:>GY]+%$I'4L%-=<'>H,[!]1V??MJY= M=?)I=?DBV6JL^35WYW(>3\2BM3(RG#`-I%.]22,UFHQ+S[..TX[/>Z^2SYZY M_YW[>PU\_F]J:EKF\]_;X`$+G_]-#5[U^=_H:>#G_X/@+[?_\$>H#,=*'#8A M).130U_`L0K'"B$.%?810@@AA!!"""&$$$(((8000@@AY"'C]HU;;XN%9__6 M]P!6";'B0+ZMCI9P.+CUZ_[G_3V!PDBY7$IM+L[6$0Z'_'VA.V-DP;GU_0(] M'R/"X91Q,K4X^^[XME/(ZQ-BS:G\VNXB'!XX/C(<.QR.Q6,I3[$<6RX@%"-/ M7<B_WM(YO,5R/#<[Y[6SR^>(F*ED+#ZX[&NQ<JS.YRBD,)^ZCUHXW+XUM+5P MBD\LWDMU6/<Q_UT-=:UH?ZJ_<"W%XD5%/G:9]1\VS27MNW)4++_F^9A(8F0D M$2^1HQ)_[/F&5BR'6-B#79W=N_SMG0OW\%#A:U',[Z7Y7&I/JZ\05>'8I`;< MHV;2;0[AG77C,,?,L.G:YK(ZYE]#M;@;%=J77\?J(N/_`VH?$T(((8000@@A MA!!"""&$D/\W9."765$AJUWCZV:$\&GN#J&MNXPS>\_XM?&_SJ!MM]JB/X?I MH9UO:+:RZ<%J.:;</:7:MG.#=M6VG5-M]41M<*6:7?;,-HSJTU9?5;YO@Y6G MU37>G]-R'Y[OWI?+UI]23T1SV>YO5[RNGDGFLM$J&<]E:X:$9GDJ^'HN>^@? MW0>[1S'_III?)G(W.TZ*LHXQ%:%RW1@/!FI$_=9<=N=+PT\4]%_N"V"FS;I> M1U]`/K)GW"W<K>/:B.YVY;*J_Y_=P4!?8.=X/NX3*VZJ(*ZR+S`_]X-_]06V MC1_"$M1Z=-%V1+.M#,%1.`@?A-OA/M@']\"MNE@?A%O@G7"C+AI^`GO0W@?7 MP>WPDW`=7`T_#5?!$JZ$M\!.^`#<`3\!5\`-\'JX"K;#C\`:W`)+73C5NH0N M7!?Q7F35>XQVEWJ'T?Y8%[45\$?P2G@6%G`&7@U?U<57=L#OHWT5?@_K?AE^ M5Q?U+\#OZ*+&`5_!=6[!;^&ZT["U8^`97<C?P1?@O\/G%W_"1%B_`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`F]]K?4$\`7W%,_-N6WIW%@J_;K'7^L$7HH94V M[?MP$'X%;H>_"_O@TW`K_.MU0F^!7X4;X4FWT#WP:VC7P3^'GX2_!U?#$W`5 M_")<"?\4=L+3<`<\!E?`9^'U<`JVPPE8@W\$2[CBJT(7\($ZH6?Q]J@MT86V MVA(?H_TSC'\$_QB>A7\`9^!?P%=A<[W0WX>[G$)_#SZ%=;\+=WY-Z._`?_JR MT*_`:<Q_"_X/KGM9;0/DGX'/2:%?@"_!Y^&"VG\+_@``(8000@@AA!!"""&$ F$$(((8000@@AA!!"""&$$$(((8000@@AA!#R\/!?9[KID@#(```A ` end
From: brockway@u.washington.edu (Jared Brockway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SLIP experiences? Date: 15 Dec 1994 20:53:55 GMT Organization: University of Washington Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3cqad3$mv3@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Keywords: SLIP Anyone willing to share their experiences configuring Louis Mamakos' SLIP package? Specifically, I'm looking for help with duattach. Is this command supposed to be included in the SLIP package or is it included with NeXTSTEP? I've searched everywhere, but the command doesn't seem to exist anywhere on my system. The log files suggest that duattach is what's causing the error--or more likely, the absence of duattach. Does anyone know what the duattach command does and where it should be? Thanks in advance, Jared -- _______________________________________________________________________________ | "Just another hair in the drain of the || Jared Brockway | | Internet's vast plumbing system..." || brockway@u.washington.edu | _______________________________________________________________________________
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT & HTML editor(WYSIWYG) Date: 16 Dec 1994 00:49:42 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cqo76$o98@news.iastate.edu> References: <3cg893$bpc@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes > In article <ZHAO.94Dec10121641@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. > Zhao) writes: > > The story that the fathe of WWW, TBL, started WWW on a NeXTstation is > > well-known. I also heard rumor: TBL is working on a WYSIWYG HTML > > editor on NeXT. However....www.misc some people said it is IMPOSSIBLE > > to have WYSIWYG html editor. Is it true, NeXT wizards? > > Take a look at > > http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/NextStep/Status.html > > and judge for yourself. > I downloaded it, and it looks very promising (spoken by a man who runs a WWW electronic teaching tools project). There is just one question I had: the application, as downloaded, is huge. Expanding out to > 5Mb. Running Lipo cuts that to 2.6, and then stripping it gets it down to ~.3 Mb. Question: Is there some reason the application is not stripped? Inquiring minds and all... Tom Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: ts110@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Fetching e-mail via SLIP line Date: 15 Dec 1994 23:44:06 GMT Organization: DPMMS University of Cambridge Message-ID: <3cqkc6$5fi@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I have recently connected my NeXT to the Internet via a SLIP line. I am trying to get e-mail directly into my NeXT. I was told that SMTP is not an efficient way to do this over a SLIP line and that I should use POP/IMAP instead. Does NeXT support the POP/IMAP protocol for downloading mail? How do other SLIP users usually download their mail into a NeXT? Thank you very much for your replies - they will be greatly appreciated. Yours sincerely, Tomaz Slivnik
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Talk deamon? Date: 16 Dec 1994 03:14:25 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cr0mh$sps@core.symnet.net> References: <3cns6g$1ov@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mr. O.Coutelle (NIMR) writes > Hallo Netters, > > I have been trying to establish a 'talk' connection between our Spark10 running SunOS > and a friend of mine on a NeXT cuberunning NS3.2 I believe, but the talk deamons > seem to be incompatible. can somebody confirm this? yes. > Any solutions? Use ytalk from ftp.cs.orst.edu. -- Steve Dekorte dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome) http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: dsrekrg@prism.gatech.edu (Rob Gibson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: closet cleaning - two NeXT 256 MB optical disks Date: 15 Dec 1994 23:52:30 -0500 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Sender: dsrekrg@prism.gatech.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cr6ef$g4r@acmex.gatech.edu> send mail if they are of value to you. -- Rob Gibson ARPA: dsrekrg@prism.gatech.edu
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Tim Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Set Mailer for Mail read through Terminal.app? Date: 16 Dec 1994 02:59:07 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412160859.AA22885@alleg.EDU> is there a way to set the mailer which mail uses when sending mail from a Terminal window? I know it can be done with Mail.app, but I have not been able to find out anything about the Terminal way. Can a non-superuser/non-root change his mailer (maybe by something in the .mailrc?) Many thanks TjL
From: millert@grad.csee.usf.edu (Timothy Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Followup-To: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Date: 16 Dec 1994 18:36:47 GMT Organization: University of South Florida Distribution: world Message-ID: <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <3c8r69$pmv@golem.wcc.govt.nz> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> I missed the files. Could someone email them to me?
From: samschap@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Sam Schapmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP! How do you send mail to a CompuServe address? Date: 16 Dec 1994 20:03:13 GMT Organization: Halaby Corporation Message-ID: <3csrq1$q2a@news.acns.nwu.edu> I just have a "normal" 'net connection. Thanks for the help! -Sam Schapmann (ASCII only, please)
From: Cameron.Kay@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Cameron Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Viewing NeXT tiff files Date: 17 Dec 1994 03:48:29 GMT Organization: Victoria Uni. of Wellington, NZ. Distribution: world Message-ID: <CAMERON.KAY.94Dec17164830@kauri.vuw.ac.nz> Hi, I've got a collection of NeXTSTEP icons in tiff format. The problem is none of the standard tiff viewers I have on my Mac or on the Sun at work can display them. They all come up with and error about samplesPerPixel=2 not being supported. Is there any viewer or converter that can solve my problem. Thanks in advance - Cameron -- Email Cameron.Kay@kauri.vuw.ac.nz Post Computer Science Department Phone + 64 4 472 1000 x7032 (Work) Victoria University + 64 4 237 5895 (Home) P.O.Box 600 Fax + 64 4 495 5232 Wellington, New Zealand Criticisms for the above comments will be directed to my complaints department, now orbiting geosynchronously 2,200 miles directly above you. They like to be called "Sir". _____ . //-O-\\ . ________-----===========-----________ /=====|_____\ \\\\\/.. ..\///// /_____|=====\ // -------\___O___/------- \\ \_\ /_/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.atari.st From: andrew@raffle.demon.co.uk (Andrew Raffle) Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Message-ID: <19941216.111056.93@raffle.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Bryant Systems Ltd References: <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Dec14.120912.36004@waikato.ac.nz> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 11:10:56 GMT Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University (ldo@waikato.ac.nz) wrote: > In article <YivBoWu00iVD481lUN@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Dec-94 Re: > > insel_intide_A.gif.uu (.. by Kartik Subbarao: > >>> That makes no difference. It is bad netiquette to post binaries in > >>> discussion groups. Also, if you are downloading via a dial-up SLIP link, > >>> it takes a while to download 18K, time which the recipient is paying for. > >> > >> Quit your damn whining. > > > > What "damn whining"? Everything said above is factually correct. > > Where is it written that "discussions" shall be conducted exclusively in > the English language and restricted to 7-bit ASCII? It's also poor netiquette to hold discussions over seven newsgroups simultaneously. There's been probably more bandwidth used up by the resulting argument than by the original files. Andy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: Where should I start with playing Music with NeXT ? Message-ID: <D0y5t0.Lw4@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 08:48:35 GMT I had a NeXT cube turbo and a Miracle (connected to Mac). I am starting to try music software on NeXT (freeware only). But I found that it seems the MusicKit rely much on MIDI and MIDI devices. Unfortunately, I don't have the necessary interface for NeXT (guess I should buy one later). And there is lack of any good demonstration on generating nice piece of music from the quite powerful 44.1KHz 16bit engine. Typesetting music scores is also extremely difficult. Currently, I am using Music TeX. It is somehow beautiful and free, but learning a new command takes me several days and may still don't know why it doesn't work. Yes, there are sound editing s/w like Resound.app, YASE, and the wonderful mxv. But editing sound can be nothing to deal with playing music with a computer. I am reading R.Moore's cmusic book. It seems the cmusic is not ftpable and cmusic is defferent from the widely available csound. I couldn't get any demo on Csnd.app or Snd.app which generates a piece of music from NeXT. I just don't know how and where to start with. Could anyone give me some comments/pointers ? Mr.Sai-kee Wong
From: Gregory W. Gee <gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: tcl/tk for NeXT ??? Date: 17 Dec 1994 19:10:31 GMT Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Message-ID: <9412171909.AA24728@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Originator: daemon@julian.uwo.ca I am looking for tcl and tk for the NeXT platform. I found tcl-7.3-MAB.pkg.tar at ftp.cs.orst.edu but it has the file paths compiled in for /LocalDeveloper/lib/tcl. This is simple to change using the environment variable but I would rarther have it in /usr/local/lib/tcl. Is there somewhere where I can get the before mentioned package in source code(NeXT ported already)? I have tried to compile tcl7.3 and tk6.3 but they do not run. If someone could point me to a source, I would greatly appreciate it. **************************************************************************** Greg Gee The G-Man gee@csd.uwo.ca Honours Computer Science, gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario gee@syslab.csd.uwo.ca >>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<< NeXT Mail accepted http://www.csd.uwo.ca/mandas/uwo/members/gee/ ****************************************************************************
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Job postings at NeXT Date: 17 Dec 1994 21:10:22 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <3cvk3u$psf@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> Help! I can't read! :-) There has been a whole slew of job postings at NeXT. In the recent past, the postings would say if it was a new job, or just a replacement job. Have they removed this feature in the new job postings? (I looked, but didn't find anything. But hey, I can't read. :-) :-) ) RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ, University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and collector of titles.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Subject: Re: Viewing NeXT tiff files Message-ID: <Dec17.211518.14941@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 21:15:18 GMT References: <CAMERON.KAY.94Dec17164830@kauri.vuw.ac.nz> Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada In article <CAMERON.KAY.94Dec17164830@kauri.vuw.ac.nz> Cameron.Kay@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Cameron Kay) writes: > Hi, I've got a collection of NeXTSTEP icons in tiff format. The > problem is none of the standard tiff viewers I have on my Mac or on > the Sun at work can display them. They all come up with and error > about samplesPerPixel=2 not being supported. Is there any viewer or > converter that can solve my problem. > > Thanks in advance > Check out the "tiffutils" package, by Sam Leffler, available from: ftp://ftp.sgi.com/graphics/tiff/v3.2beta.tar.Z It supports conversion to and from TIFF format and a few others (PPM, GIF, etc.), including the NeXT 2-bit files. It should be possible to convert it to a TIFF file that is supported by your software. Note that there are patches and a few other goodies in the same directory, so you may want to pick them up too. -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 'lynx' for the NeXT? Date: 17 Dec 1994 16:14:54 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412172215.AA02508@alleg.EDU> Am wondering if there is a 'lynx' for the NeXT which allows for accessing 'web' pages via terminal? if so, where can I find it precompiled (for beautiful black) preferred MT, TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc From: kidd@rockyj.rockefeller.edu (Simon Kidd) Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Message-ID: <D0yvnB.D0v@rockyd.rockefeller.edu> Sender: usenet@rockyd.rockefeller.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The Rockefeller University References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3chpi7$ncs@tadpole.fc.hp.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 18:06:46 GMT In article <3chpi7$ncs@tadpole.fc.hp.com>, Kartik Subbarao <subbarao@concorde.fc.hp.com> wrote: >In article <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk>, >Mark Smith <ee91mds2@brunel.ac.uk> wrote: >>In article <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, >> niteowl@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de (Werner J. Lilie) wrote: >> >>> Note : both files are a mere 18K in size. >> >>That makes no difference. It is bad netiquette to post binaries in >>discussion groups. Also, if you are downloading via a dial-up SLIP link, it >>takes a while to download 18K, time which the recipient is paying for. > >Quit your damn whining. Nobody's putting a gun to your head saying you have >to read news. Watch more discussion be generated about this than the >actual innocuous posting! > > -Kartik His point is simply that there is a place for everything and this is not the place for binaries or green cards. If everybody took yours and the original attitude Usenet would be an even bigger mess than it is and people who download news to read it would be penalised. Simon
From: sb@teleport.com (Jim Sims) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mail.app will not get mail ? Date: 18 Dec 1994 06:26:39 GMT Organization: - Message-ID: <sb-1712942226310001@ip-vanc-05.teleport.com> Is there an obvious, simple reason? Mail.app will send a message just fine. I installed PPP 2.2 the other day. This is the last thing I need to repair. Thank you, Jim Sims Boynton Photography sb@teleport.com - MiME ja@sbp.com - NeXTMail OK http://www.teleport.com/~sb/
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 'lynx' for the NeXT? Date: 18 Dec 1994 08:53:51 GMT Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net) Message-ID: <3d0tav$lj5@core.symnet.net> References: <9412172215.AA02508@alleg.EDU> Timothy J Luoma writes > Am wondering if there is a 'lynx' for the NeXT which allows for > accessing 'web' pages via terminal? > > if so, where can I find it > > precompiled (for beautiful black) preferred ftp.cs.orst.edu (along with most every other peice of PD NeXT software) SD
From: subbarao@concorde.fc.hp.com (Kartik Subbarao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: 18 Dec 1994 18:41:03 GMT Organization: Workstation Systems Division, Hewlett-Packard Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d1vnv$j3m@tadpole.fc.hp.com> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3chpi7$ncs@tadpole.fc.hp.com> <D0yvnB.D0v@rockyd.rockefeller.edu> In article <D0yvnB.D0v@rockyd.rockefeller.edu>, Simon Kidd <kidd@rockyj.rockefeller.edu> wrote: >His point is simply that there is a place for everything and this is not the >place for binaries or green cards. If everybody took yours and the original >attitude Usenet would be an even bigger mess than it is and people who download >news to read it would be penalised. My point was that there is a difference between observing general guidelines and common sense, versus being net.cop about every minor thing. And just because you may happen to pay for your connection doesn't mean that you have any more "authority" than anyone else expressing their opinions on the net. I personally welcomed the posting. It was relevant to the discussion, and interjected some lively humor. -Kartik
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 'lynx' for the NeXT? Date: 18 Dec 1994 13:09:41 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412181909.AA07579@alleg.EDU> In comp.sys.next.misc article <3d0tav$lj5@core.symnet.net> you wrote: > Timothy J Luoma writes > > Am wondering if there is a 'lynx' for the NeXT which allows for > > accessing 'web' pages via terminal? > > > ftp.cs.orst.edu > (along with most every other peice of PD NeXT software) > > SD ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/lynx.2.2.M AB.README ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/lynx.2.2.M AB.tar.gz ftp://ftp.cs.unm.edu:/pub/stone/others/lynx/lynx2-2.tar.Z and a pre-compiled binary for black hardware is in the same directory: ftp://ftp.cs.unm.edu/pub/stone/others/lynx/lynx These are all the answers which were sent to me... I haven't verified any of them.... have to write 2 papers by tomorrow ;-) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 17:20:43 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <8ix=KvS00iV4A34Ykq@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3d1vnv$j3m@tadpole.fc.hp.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 18-Dec-94 Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu... by Kartik Subbarao: [ ...repetitive arguments deleted... ] > I personally welcomed the posting. It was relevant to the discussion, and > interjected some lively humor. Prove it. Show us how gifs of a Pentium are relevant to each of the following groups: comp.sys.acorn comp.sys.amiga.misc comp.sys.atari.st comp.sys.mac.misc comp.sys.next.misc comp.unix.misc Be sure to include specific references to each groups' intended purpose, which was defined when the group was created. -Chuck PS: Kartik, I predict that you will be unable to demonstrate any level of relevance. If that is the case, I hope you have the intellectual honesty to retract your comment above and agree that those posts were inappropriate for 6 of the 7 groups involved. Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: ATi GPT/4PCI Strange interference... ?! Message-ID: <schwettD119FJ.B2A@netcom.com> Summary: bizzare love triangles. Keywords: ati nextstep intel Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 00:59:42 GMT I seem to have a poser! I just upgraded my motherboard, to a EISA/PCI one with a 2940W integrated... :) But for some reason my ATi GPT now displays a screen covered with bizzre moire-like interference patterns. Additionally, the brightness is extremely low. (It's not set low in pref...app) This occurs in every single mode from 800x600 100hz to 1280x1024 75hz. The display is fine in microShaft Windows, and in 3D studio etc etc. The patterns fade in and out, particularly fading in when I move windows, access the disk, etc. I've tried both the Talus driver and the free driver from ftp.seanet.com. They both have similar problems, although the Talus driver is not as dim and the patterns are less noticeable. Incidentally, the window motion is incredibly smooth at 1152x896x32 bit with the driver from seanet; for some reason it is much better than it was on my other 90mhz pentium system. Any suggestions wuold be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Mark Schwettmann -- schwett@netcom.com, schwett@soda.berkeley.edu, schwett@uclink.berkeley.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: looking for man page for 'tput' for the NeXT Date: 18 Dec 1994 22:03:05 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412190403.AA00990@alleg.EDU> Title says it all. I'm looking for a man page for the command 'tput' for the NeXT. Someone once sent me the binary, but not the manpage. I'm leaving for break in 3 days, so I'd appreciate it if responses could be via email (cc: "comp-sys-next-misc@cs.utexas.edu" or "comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com" to send it to the newsgroup as well) many thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 01:06:11 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <IixG=HC00iUzE5e2U1@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3d2nl8$pj1@tadpole.fc.hp.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 19-Dec-94 Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (.. by Kartik Subbarao@concorde > Argh! You just MAILED this to me. You did this last time too. If you're going > to followup, go ahead. If you're going to email, do that. But don't do both! > Either keep the discussion to private email (and avoid wasting the precious > bandwidth you seem to cherish above life itself), or let's duke it out here. You are in the same net.category as Mike Dahmus. I have no interest in arguing with you because I do not value your opinions. I just want you to stop saying things that are blatantly untrue. I reply to both you and the group as a hint that you are wasting everyone's time, exactly as I do to Mike Dahmus. > Like I said in email, you still don't get it, do you? > It's a *joke*, that most folks in these newsgroups these newsgroups might > enjoy. Now, if it were posted in rec.woodworking or something, you might > have a point. Like I said in email: I'd bet 90+ % of those readers never bothered to extract and view those gifs. For those people (and I am one), this whole thread has been a complete waste of our time, and you are unnecessarily prolonging the experience. I *don't* *want* to read jokes in c.s.next.misc. It's not appropriate for the defined topic of the group. [ Lather, rinse, repeat for the other 5 groups posted to inappropriately. ] > >PS: Kartik, I predict that you will be unable to demonstrate any level > >of relevance. If that is the case, I hope you have the intellectual > >honesty to retract your comment above and agree that those posts were > >inappropriate for 6 of the 7 groups involved. > > Oh please! Like I directed you to do in email, take that stick out of your > ass. I don't need you to tell me about "intellectual honesty". I challenge you to publicly show how Pentium gifs are relevant, _as_ _you_ _claimed_, or else publicly admit that your claim was wrong. *That* is intellectual honesty. Why don't you demonstrate some? -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1: --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: qtge@oce-rd2.oce.nl (Tinus Geertsma 2957) Subject: DOS BootVirus Message-ID: <D12484.2xL@oce.nl> Sender: news@oce.nl (The Daily News @ nntp01.oce.nl) Organization: Oce Nederland B.V. - Research & Development Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 12:04:51 GMT Hello All, ` I just got a Virus on my NeXT-Step/DOS PC. It is a MS-DOS Virus. I don't mind so much for the MS-DOS partition but it screwed up the boot-manager for NeXT-Step because it is a boot-virus. Now I can't work on the NeXT PC so I would realy appriciate if someone could tell me how to write a new boot-manager in the boot sector. I tried to install the NeXT-Step software again but it will erase all the data from the drive. Some suggestions? CIAO Tinus Geertsma
From: Gerd Gueldenpfennig Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for OO tools (was: Looking for CASE tools) Date: 19 Dec 1994 12:32:36 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <3d3uh4$1ig@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <3clhia$j17@hermes.dna.mci.com> Alex Nghiem writes > In article <D0JuB1.Et@planon.qc.ca>, > Laurent Daudelin <laurent@planon.qc.ca> wrote: > >Hi all! > > > >We're beginning to look for a CASE tool that would assist us in object > >oriented design. We're looking for something that support the Booch > >method. > I've used Rose 1.1 and 2.5 (get this version if you can!) with good success. OK, but anybody knows if there is _any_ OO design tools on the way for NEXTSTEP? Interesting: The best OO system has no OO design tool available. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: burrows@ix.netcom.com (Grant Burrows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NCR SCSI driver for NS 3.3 Date: 19 Dec 1994 14:41:10 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d4626$r1j@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> I just got NS 3.3 and expected a NCR SCSI driver. Apparently, it won't be available until Q1 '95. In the past I've heard of an outfit called 'Talus' does anyone have there address or the address of another 3rd party who might provide the driver? Thanks in , Grant Burrows burrows@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) Subject: Re: HELP! How do you send mail to a CompuServe address? Message-ID: <D12LrG.E3D@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <3csrq1$q2a@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 18:23:40 GMT In article <3csrq1$q2a@news.acns.nwu.edu> samschap@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Sam Schapmann) writes: > > I just have a "normal" 'net connection. Thanks for the help! > > -Sam Schapmann > (ASCII only, please) Assume that the users compu$erve address is 1234,23445 (note the comma). Send them mail to: 1234.23445@compuserve.com (change the comma to a period). there ya go! j
From: esd@slurpee.colorado.edu (Ed DeBolt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.admin Subject: sendmail modification -- changing the from field for outgoing mail Date: 19 Dec 1994 18:41:15 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Message-ID: <3d4k4b$52l@lace.Colorado.EDU> Keywords: sendmail from field modification Hi, I am running 3.2 (moto) with the stock sendmail. I want my from line of outgoing mail messages to say another machine (our mail host) instead of my host. What would be the most elegant way to do this? I am going to upgrade to 3.3 later this week. Is the configuration different in 3.3? Thanks for any help, -- Ed DeBolt Jr NeXTMail welcome esd@slurpee.colorado.edu Nat. Snow and Ice Data Ctr. Boulder Colorado 303-492-8814 http://titanic.colorado.edu:/ESD
From: dscheide@imp.ch (Daniel Scheidegger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT DevCon when? Date: 19 Dec 1994 21:17:27 GMT Organization: Just me Message-ID: <3d4t97$d3i@armageddon.imp.ch> Hoi zaeme.. I need to know when and where the next NeXT Developer Conference takes place, because I want to plan my holidays. Thanks in advance Daniel
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: any ideas on how to remap the power key on a 3.2 m68k? Date: 19 Dec 1994 14:16:16 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412192016.AA29176@alleg.EDU> the keymapping.app won't do it I can disable it via any root/superuser way. I'm sure the college would prefer that I not just rip the damn key off. Calling all hackers -- there's got to be someway to do this. They key code is 0x58 according to the Keymapping app. How can I make its "special" character disapper? TjL aka "Clumsy fingers" ps please respond via email if after wed dec 21 -- thanks -- (I'M OFF THE INTERNET: Dec 22-Jan 22 -- Happy Holidays!!) Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dots with Canon Bubble Jet printers Date: 19 Dec 1994 22:55:04 GMT Organization: MCI Message-ID: <3d5308$c6l@hermes.dna.mci.com> Hello there: Has anybody out there used Dots with the various Bubble Jet printers by Canon? I'd like to get rid of my laser printer due to its exceptional footprint. Please e-mail me directly since this is probably of limited interest to the rest of netland. Thanks, Alex
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT CD-rom and CDPlayer.app Date: 19 Dec 1994 19:56:55 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <3d4oi7$d8b@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: old cube Hullo friends! I have an old 040 cube running NeXTstep 3.2. Connected to it is a NeXT CD rom drive. I have tried to use CDPlayer.app, and it returns an error that it can not find the CD rom drive. The same drive has sucessfully read PhotoCDs and ordinary NeXT CDs. Is there some sort of issue that I am not aware of? Chris Penrose penrose@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: wow@efn.org (Wallace Waggoner) Subject: Help setting up Inet server Message-ID: <D12vI2.9qA@efn.org> Organization: Eugene Free community Network/Oregon Public Networking Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 21:54:01 GMT I just bought NS 3.2. Can someone help me set up as a Internet/Web server? Please E-mail me. Wally
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ekraft@netcom.com (Erik Kraft) Subject: Re: any ideas on how to remap the power key on a 3.2 m68k? Message-ID: <ekraftD135Au.A2y@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <9412192016.AA29176@alleg.EDU> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 01:25:42 GMT In article <9412192016.AA29176@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) writes: >the keymapping.app won't do it > >I can disable it via any root/superuser way. > >I'm sure the college would prefer that I not just rip the damn key off. > >Calling all hackers -- there's got to be someway to do this. They >key code is 0x58 according to the Keymapping app. How can I make its >"special" character disapper? > >TjL aka "Clumsy fingers" > >ps please respond via email if after wed dec 21 -- thanks >-- >(I'M OFF THE INTERNET: Dec 22-Jan 22 -- Happy Holidays!!) >Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College >NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 >Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 >If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question. From the Librarian (searching NextAdmin with the keyword 'power') in /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/09_StartShut.rtf: _____________ * PowerOffDisabled true -- Prevents users from casually turning off the computer . This option can be useful if the system is providing a shared service (for exa mple, a print server). If this option is set, then pressing the Power key has no effect while the login window is displayed. In addition, if a user presses the Power key while logged in, the user is logged out but the system is not turned o ff. To turn off the system when this argument is set, exit to the NMI mini-monit or and type halt to exit to the ROM monitor. From the ROM monitor, press the Pow er key, then type y. The options to loginwindow can be set in /etc/ttys: 1. Log in as root. 2. Open /etc/ttys and locate the line beginning with *console: (although it may appear on two lines, this is actually a single entry containing no Return charac ters): console /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow NeXT on secure window=/usr/lib/NextStep/WindowServer onoption="/usr/etc/getty std.9600" 3. Modify the line to include arguments to loginwindow. This example disables th e Power key and changes the default user to george. Note the required quotes aro und loginwindow and its arguments: console "/usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow -PowerOffDisabled true -DefaultUser georg e" NeXT on secure window=/usr/lib/NextStep/WindowServer onoption="/usr/etc/getty std.9600" 4. Reboot the system. For more information about loginwindow and its arguments, see the UNIX manual pa ge for loginwindow. ________________ --erik -- erik kraft NeXT programmer / 3do programmer ekraft@netcom.com
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: any ideas on how to remap the power key on a 3.2 m68k? Date: 19 Dec 1994 20:26:42 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412200226.AA13950@alleg.EDU> PREVIOUSLY, I mistakenly said > > I can disable it via any root/superuser way. > that CAN should have been CANNOT. Sorry for the mix-up TjL -- (I'M OFF THE INTERNET: Dec 22-Jan 22 -- Happy Holidays!!) Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What works in 3.3? Date: 20 Dec 1994 06:00:16 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> Keywords: Upgrade NEXTSTEP 3.3 just came in today. The release notes say that you have to install emacs and NeXTTeX anew for them to work. They also say that BuildDisk.app is broken in 3.3 Intel. Otherwise, there appear to be very few known bugs. A few old bugs appear to remain. My question is: What works better in 3.3 than in 3.2, specifically in 3.3 FIP? 1) Are the serial drivers fixed? 2) Does the serial mouse still jump around during heavy bus activity? 3) Is the kernel as fast as or faster than in 3.2? (It grew from .9 MB to 1.8 MB.) 4) Does PPP 2.2 still work? 5) Do any of the wonderful freeware/shareware apps break? (I mean things such as the PASPlus driver, the DefaultsSystem Preference module, Stuart, Emacs_4.0, Fiend, NewsGrazer, OmniWeb, Opener, InstantTeX, etc.) 6) Do the MusicKit4.1 drivers operate with 3.3? Does anyone have any information? Thanks much, Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
From: rob@nexus.alembic.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Looking for OO tools - CASE for NeXT in '95 Date: 20 Dec 1994 06:10:03 GMT Organization: Colorado Supernet Message-ID: <3d5sfr$1q3@news-2.csn.net> References: <3d3uh4$1ig@balu.ixpoint.de> Keywords: CASE, RAD, OOP, OOD,Methodology In article <3d3uh4$1ig@balu.ixpoint.de> Gerd Gueldenpfennig writes: > Alex Nghiem writes > > In article <D0JuB1.Et@planon.qc.ca>, > > Laurent Daudelin <laurent@planon.qc.ca> wrote: > > >Hi all! > > > > > >We're beginning to look for a CASE tool that would assist us in object > > >oriented design. We're looking for something that support the Booch > > >method. > > > I've used Rose 1.1 and 2.5 (get this version if you can!) with good > success. > > OK, but anybody knows if there is _any_ OO design tools on the way for > NEXTSTEP? Interesting: The best OO system has no OO design tool available. > > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + > + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + > + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + > + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + > + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) + > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To answer your question, there is a new NeXTStep / OpenStep OO Design Methodology Tool Suite which is slated for release in Q1 '95. Some parts of the Suite (there are several applications) are CASE tools and the more interesting parts use an artificial intelligence engine to catalogue all the objects in a enterprise's library and generate code based on the relationships defined between the User Interface (.nib files in NeXT) and the objects in the library. It then asks you to write the objects which are missing and then it automatically adds these objects to the library for use in future applications. I'm not a developer, but the beta demo looks great and we'll have some product info in a couple of weeks. To get product info when it comes out, send E-mail to: info@alembic.com Best Regards ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Rob Blessin, Account Manager * 800-452-7608 Orders Alembic / Object Technologies * & 303-799-6223 14 Inverness Dr. E. Suite G-228 * 303-799-1435 Fax Englewood, CO 80112 USA * rob@alembic.com Email * NeXT/MIME Mail Welcome (Save the Planet communicate through Email) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 20 Dec 1994 06:19:51 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d5t27$6gh@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen) writes: > NEXTSTEP 3.3 just came in today. The release notes say that you have to > install emacs and NeXTTeX anew for them to work. Do you mean I have to install emacs and NeXTTeX for NS3.2 before I installed NS 3.3? >They also say that BuildDisk.app is broken in 3.3 Intel. what? > My question is: > What works better in 3.3 than in 3.2, specifically in 3.3 FIP? > 3) Is the kernel as fast as or faster than in 3.2? (It grew from .9 MB > to 1.8 MB.) It's kidding. "Micro" Kernel? > 6) Do the MusicKit4.1 drivers operate with 3.3? > Does anyone have any information? which DSP card do you use? I have not got my 3.3, but just wait for the response, and see what's problem in 3.3 Mark
Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Followup-To: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc References: <8ix=KvS00iV4A34Ykq@andrew.cmu.edu> Organization: BASTARDS INCORPORATED Distribution: world From: starman@crash.wanganui.gen.nz (Robin Halligan) Message-ID: <starman.09pb@crash.wanganui.gen.nz> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 09:39:06 +1200 Hi Charles William Swiger On Sun, 18 Dec 1994 17:20:43 -0500 YOU WROTE: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 18-Dec-94 Re: >insel_intide_A.gif.uu... by Kartik Subbarao: >[ ...repetitive arguments deleted... ] >> I personally welcomed the posting. It was relevant to the discussion, and >> interjected some lively humor. I liked it i found it a good laugh. >Prove it. Show us how gifs of a Pentium are relevant to each of the >following groups: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ????????????????? Then in a later post you said >I'd bet 90+ % of those readers never bothered to extract and view those ^^^^^ I take $1000 on that to say you are wrong would you? >gifs. For those people (and I am one), this whole thread has been a >complete waste of our time, and you are unnecessarily prolonging the >experience. So you never looked at the gifs but you know what they were I suppose a Net god like you can look at a uuencoded file and decode it in your head. Shit you must be amazing. >PS: Kartik, I predict that you will be unable to demonstrate any level >of relevance. If that is the case, I hope you have the intellectual >honesty to retract your comment above and agree that those posts were >inappropriate for 6 of the 7 groups involved. Please could we have your Net Cop Badge number we must congratulate you on your fine intellectual and well researched post. PS. Chuck This is a sarcastic post stick your pc up your arse and fuck off and die. -- starman@crash.wanganui.gen.nz (Robin Halligan) Amigans Public Access UUCP Node Wanganui New Zealand Rimmer: It would be like putting your wedding tackle into a lion's mouth whilst flicking its love spuds with a wet towel. Total insanity. - from "Rimmerworld"
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Solution: Re: FlexFax Date: 20 Dec 1994 17:01:05 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d72kh$800@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <3bddu6$jdl@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, here my original question: In article <3bddu6$jdl@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de> heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) writes: > Hello, > has anyone tried (and succeeded??) to use a FlexFax FAX server on some > other > machine (here it is a SUN WS) for a NeXT? > > I would like to use the nice fax features of my next (just click FAX on the > print panel) but the faxmodem in our group is attached to a SUN and managed > by FLEXFAX. Any ideas how to proceed? > > Thanks, > Helmut And here the answer: here is a solution to fax from a NeXT to a Flexfax server that seems to work here (I did not yet have time to *extensively* test it, but so far it worked). Many thanks to Mark Gregory Salyzyn who basically suggested everything, I just adopted it to FlexFax (from mgetty+sendfax ): I went into /usr/lib/NextPrinter and replaced exec_faxes, faxcleanup, Faxxess and FaxDaemon with blank scripts: #! /bin/sh exit 0 with all of the above renamed with a postfix of .NeXT so I could reinstate them later if I had to. Then I went into /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server and made a script called FAX.psif that took as input postscript information of the FAX print job: #! /bin/sh trap `rm -f /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps ; exit` 1 2 3 15 cat - >/tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps #cp /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps /tmp/FAX.psif.input #echo $* >/tmp/FAX.psif.arguments ARGUMENTS="`fgrep '%%NXFax %%For:' /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps`" FaxNumber="`echo \"$ARGUMENTS\" | sed -n 's/^%%NXFaxNumber:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p'`" FaxTo="`echo \"$ARGUMENTS\" | sed -n 's/^%%NXFaxTo:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p'`" FaxFrom="`echo \"$ARGUMENTS\" | sed -n 's/^%%For:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p' | head -1`" FaxName="`ypcat passwd | sed -n \"s/^$FaxFrom:[^:]*:[0-9]*:[0-9]*:\([^:]*\):.*/\1/p\"`" #echo to=$FaxTo num=$FaxNumber from=$FaxFrom name=$FaxName >> /tmp/FAX.psif.arguments echo arg=$ARGUMENTS >> /tmp/FAX.psif.arguments LOGNAME=root export LOGNAME chmod 644 /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps # Now send the FAX rcp /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps james:/tmp/FAX.psif.input.ps rsh james /usr/local/bin/sendfax -R -D -n -m -c \"from: $FaxName, $FaxFrom\" -d \"$FaxTo@$FaxNumber\" /tmp/FAX.psif.input.ps status=$? rm -f /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps exit $status james is the SUN running flexfax. The echo and cp commands which are commented out are useful for debugging. Then *after* setting up an arbitrary, local, serial FAX modem normally, I popped into NetInfoManager.app and edited the FAX printer's if handler (under printers, then the name of the faxmodem, then if) to point to the above FAX.psif script. Use whatever means at your disposal to transfer the Postscript information off to the SUN machine (here done via an rcp. BUT: the script is run from root, so root must be able to do rsh commands on the remote host!). You may do some conversion if needed either on the NeXT machine, or once transfered to the server on the SUN machine. Thanks again very much to Mark Gregory Salyzyn who's idea it really is, i just changed a few lines. Bye, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562---------------------------------------------- Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group Theresienstr. 37, 80333 Munich, GERMANY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfr@honeoye.bst.rochester.edu (Richard Raubertas) Subject: tar problem with floppy disk Message-ID: <1994Dec20.145705.24260@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 14:57:05 GMT I am running NS 3.2 on black hardware. When I use tar to read or write on the internal floppy drive, it is unable to tell when it has reached the end of the file on the disk. For example, if there is one tar file on the disk and I attempt to read it (tar xvf /dev/rfd0b), the file is read, but tar does not stop there: it continues chugging (very slowly) through the disk, for as long as I have had the patience to wait. Similarly, I can write one tar file at the beginning of the disk, but cannot add additional files, because it never finds the end of the first one. Note that this was NOT a problem with NS 2.1; I used tar all the time to exchange files with a Sun at work via sneakernet. Has anyone else had this problem? Any solutions? Is it fixed in NS 3.3? Thanks for any info, Rich Raubertas rfr@bst.rochester.edu (No NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: rfr@honeoye.bst.rochester.edu (Richard Raubertas) Subject: TeXView problem with filenames like x.y.tex Message-ID: <1994Dec20.150124.24540@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 15:01:24 GMT I am running NS 3.2 on black hardware. If I have a TeX file named x.tex, then I can double-click on it in the File Viewer and TeXView starts automatically and displays the formated pages. Very nice. But if I have a file named x.y.tex it does not work! The file still has the TeX icon in File Viewer, and TeXView starts up, but it complains that it cannot find file 'x.y' and asks me to type another file name. The same thing happens if I try to open it using TeXView's Open panel. I cannot even copy 'x.y.tex' from a text window and paste it into the TeX command window; I must type in the full name every time. What is the use of this nice integrated GUI if I have to use MS-DOS-style file names to get it to work? Has anyone else had this problem? Any solutions? Is it fixed in NS 3.3? Thanks for any info, Rich Raubertas rfr@bst.rochester.edu (No NeXTmail please)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 15:55:10 +0100 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fmo@info.fundp.ac.be (Frederic Mottiat) Subject: Help wanted : NextStep 486 Message-ID: <fmo.18.000FDCF3@info.fundp.ac.be> Organization: Institut d'Informatique (FUNDP - Namur), Belgium Hi. I'm looking for NextStep486 (or any newer version). Where is it available ? Is it still on CD_ROM ? How much does it cost ? What do you need to make it run (how much RAM, disk space, .....) ? Any suggestions and advices are welcome :) Please use my e-mail for answers Fred.
Control: cancel <1994Dec20.220846.8749@news.vanderbilt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: cancel <1994Dec20.220846.8749@news.vanderbilt.edu> Message-ID: <1994Dec21.011030.10403@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 01:10:30 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
Control: cancel <1994Dec20.213500.8340@news.vanderbilt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: cancel <1994Dec20.213500.8340@news.vanderbilt.edu> Message-ID: <1994Dec21.011150.10460@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 01:11:50 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: kochhar@endor.harvard.edu (Sandeep Kochhar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: tar problem with floppy disk Date: 20 Dec 1994 17:31:45 GMT Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University Message-ID: <KOCHHAR.94Dec20123145@endor.harvard.edu> References: <1994Dec20.145705.24260@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> In-reply-to: rfr@honeoye.bst.rochester.edu's message of Tue, 20 Dec 94 14:57:05 GMT In article <1994Dec20.145705.24260@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> rfr@honeoye.bst.rochester.edu (Richard Raubertas) writes: > I am running NS 3.2 on black hardware. When I use tar to read > or write on the internal floppy drive, it is unable to tell when > it has reached the end of the file on the disk. For example, if > ... I have the same problem reading diskettes. Basically, I have two ways around it: - once it hangs, I use ^Z to suspend it, check the size of the file at which it hung, and if it's the same as what tar xvf had hung on, I foreground the process and ^C it. - if I'm the person creating the floppies, then I just put a zero sized file (called "zero"!) at the end of the creation list (e.g., tar cvf /dev/rfd0b foo bar .... zero); then during extraction, when it reaches zero, I just ^C it... I have no problem writing floppies using tar cvf or tar cf. Also, as you say, it showed up with 3.0; was ok with 2.X. -sandeep kochhar -- Sandeep Kochhar 248 Hampshire St. #2 email: kochhar@das.harvard.edu Cambridge, MA 02139 tel: (617) 876-2052
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need Keith Ohlfs contact info Date: 20 Dec 1994 18:36:05 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d786l$12e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Can someone please email me contact info for Keith Ohlfs? Thanks. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: dennisg@news-srvr.CyberSAFE.COM (Dennis Glatting) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: 20 Dec 1994 12:38:04 -0800 Organization: CyberSAFE Corporation, Redmond WA Message-ID: <3d7fbc$7o@kerby.ocsg.com> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu> In article <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu>, Timothy Miller <millert@grad.csee.usf.edu> wrote: >I missed the files. Could someone email them to me? > Me too. -dpg -- Dennis P. Glatting / CyberSAFE Corporation Network and Security Infrastructure Architect
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 20 Dec 1994 14:19:25 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <3d7hot$rem@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3d5t27$6gh@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> In article <3d5t27$6gh@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, Lin Yi-chih <mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: >In article <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu >(Theodore J. Allen) writes: >> NEXTSTEP 3.3 just came in today. The release notes say that you have to >> install emacs and NeXTTeX anew for them to work. > > Do you mean I have to install emacs and NeXTTeX for NS3.2 before >I installed NS 3.3? No, this means that the versions which worked with 3.2 will not work with 3.3. So if you upgrade your system instead of rebuilding all the files from scratch for 3.3, then your old versions will not work. you will need the new versions. > >>They also say that BuildDisk.app is broken in 3.3 Intel. > > what? uh, builddisk.app doesn't work in 3.3. do you mean how can this be? >> 3) Is the kernel as fast as or faster than in 3.2? (It grew from .9 MB >> to 1.8 MB.) > > It's kidding. "Micro" Kernel? next's mach was based on mach 2.5 and was never ever ever never no way a micro kernel. supposidly they added some mach 3.0 features to nextstep 3.3. -nick
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TeXView problem with filenames like x.y.tex Date: 20 Dec 1994 21:52:43 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <3d7jnb$58c@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <1994Dec20.150124.24540@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> -> Has anyone else had this problem? Yes, it is a nuisance. However, because Tom Rokicki makes his source available for the asking, one cannot blame him too much for any shortcomings. (Of course, I still hope that someone makes anti-aliasing available on NS/FIP w/in TeXView. Too bad I have no time to learn how to program NS myself.) Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: samschap@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Sam Schapmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sending Mail to a CompuServe Account (SOLVED!) Date: 20 Dec 1994 22:01:35 GMT Organization: Halaby Corporation Message-ID: <3d7k7v$9s9@news.acns.nwu.edu> Thanks to everyone who replied! Given a CompuServe address: X,Y An Internet address can be constructed: X.Y@compuserve.com Thanks, folks! -Sam Schapmann (ASCII only, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: Re: Mail.app will not get mail ? Message-ID: <1994Dec20.212712.8235@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT References: <sb-1712942226310001@ip-vanc-05.teleport.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 21:27:12 GMT I got the inverse problem Mail retrieval from the mailhost works fine (thanks PopOver.app by Jason Fosbak) but the mailhost is returning my mail with a protocol error: From: NeXT Mail Agent <Mailer-Agent> Subject: Returned mail: Remote protocol error To: cat ----- Transcript of session follows ----- While connected to mailhost.vuse.vanderbilt.edu: >>> MAIL From:<cat@garfield> <<< 553 <cat@garfield>... Never heard of garfield in domain vuse.vanderbilt.edu 554 katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu... 554 Remote protocol error ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: <cat> Received: by garfield.vuse.vanderbilt.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0S) id AA00656; Sun, 18 Dec 94 01:24:55 -0600 Date: Sun, 18 Dec 94 01:24:55 -0600 From: Katzlberger Thomas <cat> Message-Id: <9412180724.AA00656@garfield.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100.RR) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100.RR) To: katzlbt@vuse.vuse.vanderbilt.edu Subject: test Anyone got any suggestions? Please email me a copy of your followup in case it is posted after the 21st of December. Thanks, -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 21 Dec 1994 01:17:04 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d7vmg$kiv@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> To be rude and follow up on my own post, I found out from a kind fellow at NeXT that: 1) The serial port will definitely be fixed in January. 2) The serial mouse is better on some systems (I assume EISA, but perhaps only on systems with VL-Bus or PCI serial cards...) but still a bit jumpy on ISA. 3) The 3.3 kernel is about as fast overall as in 3.2: some things are definitely faster, a few things are a bit slower because of a bit of extra overhead in making the kernel more robust. 4) Rumor is that PPP2.2 still works with NS3.3. 5) Most apps don't break. I was told that some apps that exploited bugs in the OS are broken or partially so, now that the bugs are fixed, but that most or all of the ones I mentioned are fine in 3.3. 6) (I'm still waiting to hear about the MusicKit with Intel 3.3....) 7) BuildDisk will not be fixed for 3.3 as there are command line work-arounds to building a new disk. Apparently BuildDisk has always been a bit flaky for Intel. On the plus side, there are a few more apps in /NextDeveloper/Demos/. There's NeXTtv and DarkForest. I had heard FileMerge was improved, but I haven't yet tried the upgrade, so I have no direct information. Anyone have more information? Anyone know whether any of the apps I mentioned (PASPlus driver, the DefaultsSystem Preference module, Stuart, Emacs_4.0, Fiend, NewsGrazer, OmniWeb, Opener, InstantTeX) definitely DON'T work? How about CryptorBundle1.2? Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins) Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Message-ID: <1994Dec21.022821.4809@galois.mit.edu> Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics References: <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3d7vmg$kiv@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 94 02:28:21 GMT In article <3d7vmg$kiv@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Theodore J. Allen <tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu> wrote: >To be rude and follow up on my own post, I found out from a kind fellow at >NeXT that: > >1) The serial port will definitely be fixed in January. You know I found that the Mux serial driver worked like a charm. Here is the output from a crude search ftp> dir */*/*/*Mux* 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. -rw-rw-r-- 2 nextstuf ftp 7700 Mar 4 1994 binaries/drivers/sources/MuxDriver.README -rw-rw-r-- 2 nextstuf ftp 90576 Mar 4 1994 binaries/drivers/sources/MuxDriverSRC1.4.tar.gz -rw-rw-r-- 2 nextstuf ftp 7700 Mar 4 1994 demos/drivers/sources/MuxDriver.README -rw-rw-r-- 2 nextstuf ftp 90576 Mar 4 1994 demos/drivers/sources/MuxDriverSRC1.4.tar.gz Mike -- ----------------------------------- Mike Hopkins mjh@math.mit.edu -----------------------------------
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Job postings at NeXT Date: 21 Dec 1994 05:32:56 GMT Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge Message-ID: <3d8em8$1rme@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> References: <3cvk3u$psf@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> In article <3cvk3u$psf@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>, Robert Wong <wrob@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote: >Help! I can't read! :-) > >There has been a whole slew of job postings at NeXT. In the recent past, >the postings would say if it was a new job, or just a replacement job. >Have they removed this feature in the new job postings? > >(I looked, but didn't find anything. But hey, I can't read. :-) :-) ) > RWW. >-- >Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) >Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ, >University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and >collector of titles. I believe they are new jobs, but don't quote me on it. BTW: If anybody else is heading out to Redwood City for one of these, I'll be heading out myself in early January and am looking for someone to share an apartment with do defray the high cost of living (higher than I'm used to, anyway). Email me if interested, or call me at 915-584-0620. john -- john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
From: prevosto@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr (Laurent PREVOSTO) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS free softwares for HP-PA Date: 21 Dec 1994 17:15:31 GMT Organization: ENSTBR, Brest, France Distribution: world Message-ID: <PREVOSTO.94Dec21181532@orion.enstb.enst-bretagne.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using a HP-9000/700 running NeXTSTEP 3.2 But no LocalApps are installed. So I would like to install useful tools such as GatorFTP, OmniWeb, NewsGrazer, Archie,....... Does anybody know a site where i could find HP binaries since no sources for major Local Applications seem to be available ? Thanx Laurent Email : prevosto@enstb.enst-bretagne.fr -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurent PREVOSTO Chambre I8 205 Tel (98 00) 18 03 ENSTBr ( Pas loin de Plouz' qu'est pas loin de Brest qu'est loin de tout ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 21 Dec 1994 07:13:15 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d8kib$fq7@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3d7vmg$kiv@news.doit.wisc.edu> Anyboady know if the 3.2 driver can use in 3.3? I think it's important for some people who use the drivers from FTP site without source. I just want to announce there is a D-Link DE220 Network device driver for NS 3.2. But I have no source code and no driverkit 3.3 to recompile it. Mark
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 21 Dec 1994 10:40:18 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d90mi$lht@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3d7vmg$kiv@news.doit.wisc.edu> > On the plus side, there are a few more apps in /NextDeveloper/Demos/. > There's NeXTtv and DarkForest. ^^^^^^ Since this user version is for Motorola and Intel both. It's the AP for NeXT Dimension ... Mark
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 21 Dec 1994 10:42:05 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <3d90pt$lii@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <3d7hot$rem@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> > > Do you mean I have to install emacs and NeXTTeX for NS3.2 before > >I installed NS 3.3? > > No, this means that the versions which worked with 3.2 will not work with > 3.3. So if you upgrade your system instead of rebuilding all the files > from scratch for 3.3, then your old versions will not work. you will > need the new versions. From: Ta-Wei Li <taweil@skat.usc.edu> Emacs.app (emacs 19.20 and NeXT interface) works just fine. Don't install emacs from NeXT. It's 19.59. Install Emacs.app! Mark
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 21 Dec 1994 05:44:01 GMT Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <3d8fb1$db3@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <1994Dec21.022821.4809@galois.mit.edu> > -rw-rw-r-- 2 nextstuf ftp 7700 Mar 4 1994 binaries/drivers/sources/MuxDriver.README > -rw-rw-r-- 2 nextstuf ftp 90576 Mar 4 1994 binaries/drivers/sources/MuxDriverSRC1.4.tar.gz > -rw-rw-r-- 2 nextstuf ftp 7700 Mar 4 1994 demos/drivers/sources/MuxDriver.README > -rw-rw-r-- 2 nextstuf ftp 90576 Mar 4 1994 demos/drivers/sources/MuxDriverSRC1.4.tar.gz the newest version is 1.5, my friend test it on the VESA machine, it works fine. But the problem is how to setup the device name in /etc/dev for com3, com4 ... ( As I remember, Mux driver can support 4 or 8 serical port ) Mark
From: taweili@aludra.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 21 Dec 1994 01:03:46 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: taweil@aludra.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <TAWEILI.94Dec21010342@aludra.usc.edu> References: <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3d5t27$6gh@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> In-reply-to: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw's message of 20 Dec 1994 06:19:51 GMT >>>>> "Lin" == Lin Yi-chih <mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw> writes: In article <3d5t27$6gh@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) writes: >> My question is: What works better in 3.3 than in 3.2, >> specifically in 3.3 FIP? 3) Is the kernel as fast as or faster >> than in 3.2? (It grew from .9 MB to 1.8 MB.) Lin> It's kidding. "Micro" Kernel? It's actually Fat kernel. The only thing different in a Motorola and a Intel upgrade package is probably the package. I just upgrade a PC and a NeXT using the same upgrade OD. -- Ta-Wei "David" Li Computer Engineering and Computer Science University of Southern California. Member, League for Programming Freedom "Innovate, don't litigate."
From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Developer for 3.3 ?? Date: 21 Dec 1994 16:35:23 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <3d9lgb$g3r@news.tuwien.ac.at> I am considering an update to 3.3... Is the developer for 3.3 available?? -Stephan Mantler ----------------------------------------------------- Computer Sciences Lab, Technical University of Vienna email: smantler@cslab.tuwien.ac.at [NeXTMail welcome]
From: wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 21 Dec 1994 12:03:44 GMT Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut Distribution: world Message-ID: <3d95j0$oel@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3d7vmg$kiv@news.doit.wisc.edu> Theodore J. Allen (tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu) wrote: : 1) The serial port will definitely be fixed in January. I don't expect Next to fix any serial driver for NS/I _ever_. They didn't manage it from the very first 3.1 pr1 until now. But I expect Mark Salyzyn to port Mux to 3.3 within the next two weeks :-) -- who? // Markus Wenzel work? // Navigator - System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
From: Charles Swiger <chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Uninterruptible Power Source FAQ Date: Wed, 21 Dec 94 11:06:23 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <199412211606.LAA08653@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v112.1) Content-Type: text/plain Here is the UPS FAQ I referred to. Oh, <damonc@localhost.tor.hookup.net>, it would be nice for your to get your mailer working before asking anyone to mail you something. First, your read-receipt bounced, and then my message back to you also bounced. Sigh.... -Chuck Archive-name: UPS-faq Version: 1.7 Uninterruptable Power Source (UPS) FAQ. VERSION 1.7, October 18, 1994. Sections: 01: What is this document all about? 01: What is this document? 02: How is this document made available? 03: Who maintains this? 04: Where did this information come from? 05: How can I contribute? 06: How may this document be distributed? 07: Got anything else you'd like to add? 08: Glossary. 02: What is a UPS and how does is work? 01: What is a UPS? 02: How do you pronounce "UPS"? 03: Vendor X says that (description) is a UPS, is it? 04: Describe the types of UPS's? 05: How can a UPS help me? 06: What sort of stuff does a UPS do? 07: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running? 08: What is a "good" UPS? 09: Support contracts on UPS's. 10: Self maintenance tips. 11: Is a UPS a glorified power strip? 12: How important is the UPS output waveform? 03: UPS monitoring/shutdown software. 01: Can a UPS shut the computer down when power is low? 02: Can I write my own shutdown routines? 03: What freely distributable solutions are there? 04: No UPS software works on my machines, what to do? 05: What other software is out there. 04: How big a UPS do I need? 01: How are UPS sizes determined? 02: What VA rating do I need? 03: How do I determine this? 04: What else should I consider? 05: Can I use an UPS with a laser printer? 06: What UPS sizes do you use on what equipment? 05: Specific manufacturer's info. 01: What vendors are there? 02: UPS Hardware. 03: UPS Software only. 04: Other companies. 06: Bibliography 07: Acknowledgments ----------------------------- 01: TOPIC: What is this document all about? 01.01 Q: What is this document? A: This is a FAQ document on Uninterruptable Power Sources. It is intended to provide a starting point for those people that want to find out what they are, what they do, and what's available. Note that most of this document is very US-centric. The power numbers, companies and services all emphasize US consumer needs. Sorry, but that's what I have to work with. All the principles discussed here should be applicable just about everywhere. 01.02 Q: How is this document made available? A: Currently, its "home" is comp.misc. It is also crossposted to comp.unix.admin, comp.sys.sun.hardware, comp.sys.hp.hardware, comp.sys.sgi.hardware, comp.sys.next.hardware, comp.sys.ibm.hardware, comp.sys.dec, comp.answers and news.answers. This posting is automated and will occur on or near the 10th of each month. If there are other groups to which this document should be posted, please let me know, but if I post it to every group where UPS questions get asked, that would be a lot of groups. I'm open to suggestions. This document is also available via anonymous FTP. The master sits on navigator.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.23.82) in pub/doc/faq as the file UPS.faq. It is also available via anonymous FTP from rtfm.mit.edu in: pub/usenet-by-group/comp.misc/Uninterruptable_Power_Source_FAQ 01.03 Q: Who maintains this? A: Right now, this document is maintained by Nick Christenson. My preferred email address is npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov, and I would like it very much if questions regarding this document could have the word "UPS or UPS FAQ" or some such in the Subject line. Note: I am maintaining this on my own time, so please don't be upset if it takes a while for me to respond to your queries. Also none of the information in here represents the views or has the blessing of any organization whatsoever. The maintainer of the FAQ is to be held solely responsible for its contents. 01.04 Q: Where did this information come from? A: Thankfully, many people have rallied to my cry to fill in the many gaps in my original draft. This is now a group work, although I claim full responsibility for misstatements and inaccuracies. 01.05 Q: How can I contribute? A: You should mail new information, corrections, suggestions, etc. to the current maintainer of this FAQ. If you provide a suggestion, make sure you reference where the information is located in the document. I guarantee that suggestions of the form "Change the word 'always' to 'almost always' in the part about surge suppression." will be ignored. 01.06 Q: Are there any restrictions on distribution of this document? A: This document is copyright by the author. You are encouraged to distribute this document for any non-commercial purpose as long as the contents remain unchanged and a pointer to an up-to-date version is included. 01.07 Q: Got anything else you'd like to add? A: Yes, now that you mention it. The people who contribute to this document can speak only about equipment they have experience with. This may reflect a bias toward or against certain brands, features, functions, etc.. Please keep in mind that the suggestions, brand names and functions here are by no means exhaustive, or even necessarily applicable to your situation. Also, if you have information that is not in this document, please submit it to the maintainer listed above. If you submit information, please say whether you'd like it to be attributed to you or not. I am more than glad to give credit to the fine people who helped with this document, but I want to respect the anonymity of those people who would prefer it. One more caveat: While the principles of UPS design and maintenance are likely to be fairly universal, the power figures in this FAQ are *very* US-centric. Sorry, but they're the only numbers I have. 01.08 Q: Glossary A: This was contributed almost entirely by some kind soul. I just cleaned it up a bit. Blackout: Complete loss of power. Some literature considers a voltage drop below about 80V to be a blackout as well since most equipment will not operate below these levels. Sag or Brownout: Decrease in voltage levels which can last for periods ranging from fractions of a second to hours. Can be caused by heavy equipment coming on line such as shop tools, elevators, compressors etc. Also occurs when utility companies deliberately do this to cope with peak load times. Spike: An instantaneous and tremendous increase in voltage often caused by a direct lightning strike on a power line or when power returns after a blackout. Surge: An substantial increase in voltage lasting a small fraction of a second, often caused when high powered appliances such as air conditioners are switched off. EMI/RFI Noise: ElectroMagnetic Interference and Radio Frequency Interference. Caused by, inter alia, lightning, generators, radio transmitters, industrial equipment. MOV: Metal Oxide Varistors used to control spikes. These are common in Power Strips. If you see more than two, you likely have a fairly decent Power Strip. They look like largish disk capacitors. Inverter: Circuitry that converts DC battery power to AC power required by most computer equipment. Surge Protector: Circuitry consisting of MOVs, capacitors, rod-core inductors etc. for suppressing surges and spikes usually embedded in a power strip. Line Conditioner: A transformer that attempts to smooth out fluctuations in input voltage to provide near uniform output voltage or voltage waveform. 02: TOPIC: What is a UPS and how does is work? 02.01 Q: What is a UPS? A: An Uninterruptable Power Source is a device that sits between a power supply (e.g. a wall outlet) and a device (e.g. a computer) to prevent undesired features of the power source (outages, sags, surges, bad harmonics, etc.) from the supply from adversely affecting the performance of the device. 02.02 Q: How do you pronounce "UPS"? A: I pronounce it "ups", but most of the literature seems to favor "you pee ess", since they use "a UPS" instead of "an UPS". This document will try to follow the literature. 02.03 Q: Vendor X says that (fill in description) is a UPS, but it's different that what you describe above. Who's right? A: There really is no standard definition of what a UPS is. Anything ranging from a 9 volt battery backup in a clock radio to a building/compound wide backup generator has been called a UPS by someone. The majority of this document refers to objects larger than a beer can and smaller than a desk that help devices remain temporarily operational when changes to the power they receive would otherwise interrupt their function. Maintaining power to a minicomputer (like a VAX 11) is beyond the scope of this document. This FAQ deals with UPS equipment that can be installed by a computer owner/administrator. If you have requirements that large, you need to talk to a qualified electrician. 02.04 Q: Can you give me some more information on this? A: (Kindly provided by Don Deal, Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu, my additions are in [square brackets] ) The UPS industry is made up of many manufacturers, and there is a lack of standard terms within the industry. I think this sometimes borders on deliberate misdirection. (It's a jungle out there!) There are basically three different types of devices, all of which are occasionally passed off as UPSs. 1. Standby power supply (SPS). In this type of supply, power is usually derived directly from the power line, until power fails. After power failure, a battery powered inverter turns on to continue supplying power. Batteries are charged, as necessary, when line power is available. This type of supply is sometimes called an "offline" UPS. The quality and effectiveness of this class of devices varies considerably; however, they are generally quite a bit cheaper than "true" UPSs. The time required for the inverter to come online, typically called the switchover time, varies by unit. While some computers may be able to tolerate long switchover times, your mileage may vary. [ Some articles in the trade press have claimed that their testing shows that modern PCs can withstand transfer times of 100ms or more. Most UPS units claim a transfer time to battery of about 4ms. Note that even if a computer can stay up for 100ms, it doesn't mean that 100ms switchover is okay. Damage can still be done to a computer or data on it even if it stays up. ] Other features to look for in this class of supplies is line filtering and/or other line conditioners. Since appliances connected to the supply are basically connected directly from the power line, SPSs provide relatively poor protection from line noise, frequency variations, line spikes, and brownouts. [Some SPS's claim to have surge/spike suppression circuitry as well as transformers to "boost" voltage without switching to the battery if a modest voltage drop occurs. An example is the "APC Smart UPS" which claims it will switch to this boosting mode if voltage drops below 103V (from the normal expected 120V) and switches to battery only at 90V and below. This, it is claimed, allows operation of the equipment indefinitely under brownout conditions as long as voltage does not drop below 90V. I have not tested this, and would be interested in independent data. There are other vendors products that make similar claims.] 2. Hybrid UPS systems. I only know one vendor who sells them - Best Power, Inc. The theory behind these devices is fairly simple. When normal operating line power is present, the supply conditions power using a ferroresonant transformer. This transformer maintains a constant output voltage even with a varying input voltage and provides good protection against line noise. The transformer also maintains output on its secondary briefly when a total outage occurs. Best claims that their inverter then goes online so quickly that it is operating without any interruption in power. Other UPS vendors maintain that the transition is less than seamless, but then again it's not in their best interest to promote Best's products. Best has a sizable part of the UPS market. [ Note: According to some sources, ferroresonant transformers in an UPS system can interact with ferroresonant transformers in your equipment and produce unexpected results. The Moral: Again, test before you buy. -npc ] 3. What I call "true" UPS systems, those supplies that continuously operate from an inverter. Obviously, there is no switchover time, and these supplies generally provide the best isolation from power line problems. The disadvantages to these devices are increased cost, increased power consumption, and increased heat generation. Despite the fact that the inverter in a "true" UPS is always on, the reliability of such units does not seem to be affected. In fact, we have seen more failures in cheaper SPS units. [ Note, though, that given the same quality inverter, you'd expect the one that runs least to last longest. ] 02.05 Q: How can it help me? A: A UPS has internal batteries to guarantee that continuous power is provided to the equipment even if the power supply stops providing power. Of course the UPS can provide power for a while, typically a few minutes, but that is often enough to ride out power company glitches or short outages. Advantages: 1) Computer jobs don't stop because the power fails. 2) Users not inconvenienced by computer shutting down. 3) Equipment does not incur the stress of another (hard) power cycle. 4) Data isn't lost because a machine shut down without doing a "sync" or equivalent to flush cached or real time data. 02.06 Q: What sort of stuff does a UPS do? A: A UPS traditionally can perform the following functions: 1) Absorb relatively small power surges. 2) Smooth out noisy power sources. 3) Continue to provide power to equipment during line sags. 4) Provide power for some time after a blackout has occurred. In addition, some UPS or UPS/software combinations provide the following functions: 1) Automatic shutdown of equipment during long power outages. 2) Monitoring and logging of the status of the power supply. 3) Display the Voltage/Current draw of the equipment. 4) Restart equipment after a long power outage. 5) Display the voltage currently on the line. 6) Provide alarms on certain error conditions. 7) Provide short circuit protection. 02.07 Q: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running after the power goes? A: How big a UPS do you have and what kind of equipment does it protect? For most typical computer workstations, one might have a UPS that was rated to keep the machine alive through a 15 minute power loss. If you need a machine to survive hours without power should probably look at a more robust power backup solution. Even if a UPS has a very small load, it must still operate it's DC (battery) to AC converter, which costs power. A rough extrapolation from APC's documentation, leads me to guess that a 2000 VA UPS can operate it's own converter (with no extra load) for just over 8 hours. A 1250 VA UPS could run its converter for about 5. These are *very* rough guesses based on information provided by one vendor for one vendor. 02.08 Q: Given the same vendor claims, how can I tell a "good" quality UPS from a "poor" quality UPS? A: Testing, testing, testing. I can't emphasize this enough. There are many good and bad units out there that call themselves UPS's. There are many good units that are wrong for your situation. Caveat Emptor. Some properties you might look for are: 1) Sinusoidal power output. In general, the closer the AC output of the UPS is to a sine wave, the better it is for your equipment. Many UPS units, especially the cheaper ones, deviate a great deal from a sinusoidal output. Some of them generate square waves. Waveform effects are dealt with in section 2.12. 2) Does the UPS have a manual bypass switch? If the UPS is broken or is being serviced, can you pass power through it to your equipment? The last thing you want is for a broken UPS to be the cause of extra downtime. 3) The more information about a UPS's operation you can get from watching the unit itself, the better. How much power (or percentage load) the equipment is drawing, how much battery life is left and indications of the input power quality are all very useful. 4) Some newer UPS's can communicate with their monitoring software via network connection and SNMP! This is wonderful *if* your network is on a UPS! Also, beware, I have heard of dealers advertising "Network UPS" monitoring where the network is the normal serial connection (no SLIP or PPP). 5) Does the UPS vendor offer support/maintenance contracts. If they don't even offer them, I would suspect the quality of the equipment. If you do have a UPS that does not output a sinusoidal waveform, some manufacturers *strongly* urge you to not put a surge protector between the UPS and the computer. The surge protector might mistake the non-sine waveform as a power surge and try to send it to ground. This could be bad for your UPS. I don't know if this has happened or not, but I wouldn't chance it. 02.09 Q: Should I make sure I have a support/maintenance contract for my UPS systems? A: Some people strongly recommend this, but to be honest, I don't know how important it is. I haven't had any UPS's long enough to have enough of them fail to know what the failure modes are likely to be. Some people, with more experience than I in these matters, insist that a UPS support/maintenance contract is as important as your computer support/maintenance contract. I can't argue with them. In any case, it's almost certainly worth pricing at any rate. 02.10 Q: What sort of maintenance can I perform myself? A: One good thing you might want to do is periodically test the UPS's and their failure modes. A good time to do this might be right after after a periodic level 0 backup. Nobody is logged in and you've got full backups of the machines. Throw the circuit breaker with the UPS on it to simulate and outage and see how the transition goes. Note that some UPS vendors suggest that testing an UPS by pulling the plug from the wall is *not* a good idea (Tripp Lite is one of them). These UPS units like to have a good idea of what ground looks like. It is likely that unplugging just about any UPS for a short amount of time would not be too dangerous (don't take my word for it, though!), but in all cases, throwing a circuit breaker would be a better thing to do. It might be useful to install a GFI (Ground Fault Interrupter) socket to facilitate this testing without having to pull the plug, especially if you don't have your UPS protected machines on an isolated circuit (which you probably should). These are the sockets found in most modern kitchens and bathrooms with a red and a black button. You push the latter to cut power and the former to restore power. Those UPS units that use lead-acid batteries (that's most of them, I'm told) do not have a battery memory and should be run dry as few times as possible. It's probably not a bad investment to do this once on one UPS out of a largish batch to learn how much UPS time you can expect in a real power outage. Note: depending on the manufacturer, UPS batters can be expected to last between about 1 and 5 years before they ought to be replaced. As a UPS gets older, its battery life will become shorter. Of course there's no way to reliably test how long it is without running the battery down and you don't want to do that because they have lead acid batteries. <Sigh.> All of these are very good reasons to get a support contract for them that includes periodic battery replacement. At the very least, you can figure that the batteries will still be good at the end of the UPS warranty figure, so that's a good place to start guesswork. 02.11 Q: Isn't a UPS just a glorified power strip/surge protector with some batteries and a little power conditioning thrown in? A: Basically. It's also got a power inverter and some other circuitry. It may also have a timer, thermometer or other gadgets. 02.12 Q: How important is the UPS output waveform? A: That's a good question, and one is worthy of some debate. One school of thought holds that one should always run equipment on the best approximation of sinusoidal input that one can, and that deviations produce harmonics which may either be interpreted as signal if they get through a power supply, or may actually damage the equipment. Another school holds that since almost all computers use switching-type power supplies, which only draw power at or near the peaks of the waveforms, the shape of the input power waveform is not important. Who's right? I don't know. My *opinion* is that sinusoidal output is worth the extra money, especially for on-line UPS systems that continually provide their waveform to the computer. Also, if you don't *know* that your equipment has a switching-type power supply, you might want to think twice before buying a low quality UPS. [ Some of this information from a great article in the October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine, check it out. -npc ] 03: TOPIC: UPS monitoring/shutdown software. 03.01 Q: If the power is out for a long time, I would like to have my computer automatically shut itself down gracefully before the UPS batteries die. Can I do this? A: Yes. Most UPS manufacturers support software that will do this for some UPS's on at least some platforms. Ask your UPS vendor for details. Q: Okay, how about restarting the system for me once power returns? A: Fewer software products do this, but many do. Again, ask your vendor. I do not know of any freely distributable products that will do this. It doesn't mean that they can't be built, but vendor software is cheap enough (usually) that it's probably not worth building. 03.02 Q: How does it work? I'm a starving (fill in the blank) and I really don't want to pay for software unless I absolutely have to. A: Usually, there is a serial connection running from a UPS into your computer. The UPS sends information along the serial line as it goes. If you can decode which pins contain which information, how the information is formatted and figure out what it wants to hear from the computer side, you're all set. Make sure you have the right serial cable and know how the pins map between DB9 and DB25 as both your computer and your UPS may take either. Since UPS units with network based monitoring capabilities are appearing on the market, we can hopefully get something that will communicate with those units. Here is a skeleton script provided by Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com. Definitely check this out as a starting point, but don't expect it to do anything meaningful without some work. ---------start upsd.sh------------- #! /bin/sh # Shut down system in case of extended power failure # This should be the serial port to which the UPS is connected # This port must be set to block on open until the DCD line # is asserted - many UNIX systems have this determined by # the minor device number, if not, see if there is some way # to enable this behavior on your system PORT=/dev/ttya # Ok, this should block until there is a power failure : > $PORT # If we reach this point, we've lost power wall << EOF The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!! EOF # call shutdown (or init or whatever) exec shutdown -----------end-------------------- 03.03 Q: Hmmm... that sounds kinda complicated. Has someone already done this? A: Any solution would almost certainly be vendor specific. However, some brave souls have provided partial functionality for certain vendors' UPS's. I don't know the original source, but I have a copy available for anonymous FTP at navigator.jpl.nasa.gov in the pub/src/UPS directory as upsd.tar.Z. I haven't tried it and I don't honestly know if it even works. Note: Different UPS's produce different sorts of signals. Just installing this already built package may require a great deal of work. The cabling can be complicated, etc.. I would be interested in hearing where this software does/doesn't work. Another good example, that probably works straight away for SunOS 4.1.X machines using APC Back-UPS devices, is also available on navigator for anonymous FTP in the pub/src/UPS directory is pf.c. It was written by Ronald Florence (ron@mlfarm.com). It looks like a nice framework for expansion to other OS platforms and UPS implementations. Give it a try. 03.04 Q: I can't find monitoring software that will work on my configuration. What should I do? A: Well, it seems you have a few choices: 1) Build your own. See item 03.02. 2) Use something freely distributable. See item 03.03. 3) Lean on your UPS vendor to port to your platform. 4) Try a different vendor that supports your platform. See item 05.01. 03.05 Q: What other software is out there? A: Software packages for UPS machines are getting more sophisticated. Most provide some level of power and status monitoring, but lately there are more GUI's, more interactive packages, SNMP support, and even call-out paging. See the software section 05.03 for more info. 04: TOPIC: How big a UPS do I need? 04.01 Q: How are the "sizes" of UPS's determined? A: Typically, a UPS has a VA rating. The VA rating is the maximum number of Volts * Amps it can deliver. The VA rating is not the same as the power drain (in Watts) of the equipment. Computers are notoriously non-resistive. A typical PF (power factor: Watts/VA) for workstations may be as low as 0.6, which means that if you record a drain of 100 Watts, you need a UPS with a VA rating of 167. Some literature suggests that 0.7 may be a good conversion factor, but this will depend heavily on the machine. WARNING: Don't take my word for it! Note: Some UPS's can continue to deliver power if the VA rating is exceeded, they merely can't provide above their VA rating if the power goes. Some can't provide power above their VA rating at all. Some may do something really nasty if you try. In any case, I *strongly* recommend not doing this under *any* circumstances. 04.02 Q: How can I tell what VA rating I need for my equipment? A: First, when possible, get VA rather than wattage ratings. See Q04.01 above. There are a couple of ways: 1) Direct measurement. You can get equipment to measure the current draw of your equipment directly. You may or may not have access to this. If you are part of an organization that has it's own facilities/electrical type people, they're likely to be able to do this. They might help you out if you ask nice. 2) Compare notes. If you know someone with the same setup you're using, ask them what they use and how close they are to the maximum VA rating. 3) Use a chart. Most vendors can help you out for common equipment. If you have an unusual setup, or mix vendors a lot, you're probably out of luck here. 4) Use the equipment rating. Most pieces of computer equipment have a power rating on some back panel. This number is usually high, as it is necessary for the manufacturer to play it safe or they'll get sued. Note: Method 1 is by far the best, method 2 and 3 are secondary, method 4 is usually overkill, but pretty safe. There are some examples in section 4.6, but the information is probably worth what you paid for it :-) 04.03 Q: Hmmm... seems like a tough thing to determine. A: Yeah, it can be. It's also very important. If you get a UPS that's too big, then you've overpaid, but your equipment can survive a longer outage. If you get a UPS that's too small, then you could be in deep trouble. Therefore, I recommend that you be conservative in buying these things, unfortunately, this costs money. 04.04 Q: What else should I consider? A: It would be nice to know how long your site's typical power outages are. In some places, with nice weather and a flaky power grid, the power is almost never out for more than 5 minutes, but this could happen quite frequently. In this case, you may as well use a UPS with a VA rating close to your equipment rating with no extra batteries. If your area has longer outages, in the half hour or hour range, as is often the case in thunderstorm country, you can either buy UPS's with multiples of the VA rating of the equipment, since oversizing a VA rating for a UPS has the effect of lengthening the amount of time your equipment can stay up in case of a power outage, or you can buy additional battery units for a smaller UPS. You can probably get away with doing simple math to determine how much longer a larger UPS will keep your equipment running, but I recommend running a few tests before committing to a large purchase order. Also, your UPS vendor will almost certainly be glad to help you size the equipment you need. If all else fails and you guess wrong, or move equipment to a location with different power status, you may be really, really glad if you bought a UPS that can have additional battery packs added. 04.05 Q: How about I use one of these UPS thingies for a laser printer? A: Don't *ever* do this. If you ever measured the current draw of a laser printer during startup (and during printing) you'd be stunned at what it pulls. All UPS manufacturers I know of tell you not to do this. Okay, I have to back down from this. I know APC, just as an example, now does rate some of their UPS units for use with certain laser printers. Not that I think this is a good idea, mind you. In general, they are difficult to size and rarely do they require the same level of uptime as servers. In any case, don't do this without specific approval of your UPS vendor. 04.06 Q: So, what sorts of UPS sizes do you use on your equipment? A: BIG DISCLAIMER. I disclaim everything about these figures. At best, they are very, very rough. Heck, I may be lying. Don't trust them. Here they are anyway. Note also, this is what the equipment apparently PULLS, not the UPS sizes that are on them. Generally, I've been using UPS's that are about 2X the VA ratings shown. At the very least, I would using UPS sized 1.5X the VA ratings here. 400 VA: Sparc 2 with 3 600 MB disks, 1 200 MB disk, 1 exabyte 8200 tape drive, 19" color monitor. 600 VA: HP 750 with 4 1.3 GB disks, internal 4mm tape drive and internal CD-ROM drive, external disk cabinet and 19" color monitor. 500 VA: SPARC 2GX clone. 1 1.2 GB disk, 4 2.0 GB disks, 2 tape drives, 1 CD-ROM drive, "big" monitor. 300 VA: Sparc 2 clone with 100W power supply, internal 424 disk, 16" color monitor, external 1 GB disk drive. Another word of warning, don't assume that power requirements scale with compute power and number of peripherals, ESPECIALLY if they are different architectures. Older equipment, CPU's, disks, monitors, whatever almost universally requires more power than new equipment. For example, it seems that an HP 9000/425e with 1 internal 420 MB disk and 19" color monitor pulls a lot more power than a HP 9000/715 with an internal 1.3 GB disk, CD-ROM drive and more modern 19" color monitor. Again, the moral is don't assume. 05: TOPIC: Specific manufacturer's information. 05.01 Q: What vendors are there and what do they produce? A: Here is a very incomplete list, based only on what I know. Please give me information to expand it. I make no claims as to the accuracy of this information. It is mostly based on personal recommendations and vendor propoganda. Note: The October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine has a great vendor list. I have used it to update many of the entries here. However, there is a lot of information available there that I don't have space to include here. This article is an excellent starting point for comparative pricing on UPS equipment. 05.02 UPS Hardware (and software) manufacturers: Company: Acme Electric Corp. 43 Argow Place Nanuet, NY 10954 US Phone: 1-716-968-2400 1-800-833-1373 UPS Products: 250 to 1400 VA standby UPS products, 1000 and 2000 VA on-line UPS products. Shutdown/startup and SNMP software for LAN Manager, Netware 3.x, 4.x, UNIX and VINES. Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu with additional information by npc. ------------------------ Company: Advanced Electronic Systems, Inc. 2005 Lincoln Way East Chambersburg, PA 17201 US Phone: 1-800-345-1280 Email: None known UPS Products: Stediwatt UPS: Designed specifically for use with NeXTSTEP. Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu ------------------------ Company: Alpha Technologies US Phone: 1-206-647-2360 1-800-322-5742 UPS Products: 600 to 15000 VA line-interactive UPS systems, SW with shutdown and SNMP support. 250 to 750 VA standby UPS systems. Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994. ------------------------ Company: APC, American Power Conversion US Address: 132 Fairgrounds Road P.O. Box 278 West Kingston, RI 02892 FR Address: 4, rue Ste Claire Deville Zac du Mandinet-Batiment Espace LOGNES 77447 MARNE LA VALLEE Cedex 2 FRANCE US & CAN Phone: 1-800-800-4272 Europe Phone: (+33) 1.64.62.59.00 World Wide Phone: (401) 789-5735 Email: none known UPS Products: Smart UPS in sizes up to 2000 VA. The Smart UPS's do monitoring and can shutdown multiple machines using the PowerChute software. I recommend putting these on computers. SNMP adaptor can be installed. Back UPS same as Smart UPS except that you cannot communicate interactively with the UPS and it will not support SNMP. I recommend putting these on dumb equipment like network equipment, X Terminals and Macintoshes (sorry, I couldn't resist.) Matrix UPS a modular "fault-tolerant" system. Any module, except the insulation unit, can be "hot-swapped" at any time. Also additional battery modules can be added, again, while the system is running. SNMP adaptor can be installed. Software: PowerChute, PowerChute PLUS. They produce it themselves. Supported on: SunOS, HP-UX, SCO, AIX, AT&T UNIX, Interactive UNIX, XENIX, and probably others by now. Contributed by: APC information contributed by Nick Christenson, npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov without consultation with APC. Additional information provided by Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com. I have no affiliation with APC except as a satisfied customer. ------------------------ Company: Best Power Technology, Inc. P.O. Box 280 Necedah, WI 54646-9899 US Phone: 1-800-356-5794 Email: None known UPS Products: FERRUPS: Ferroresonant-Based, Line-Interactive UPS, sizes from 500 VA - 18 KVA. Features: Standard power features, serial line communications, runtime monitoring, logging, automatic shutdown with optional software, user configurable. FORTRESS: Advanced, line-Interactive UPS, sizes from 360 VA - 2 KVA. PATRIOT: Low-Cost Standby Power Systems, 250 VA - 850 VA. Contributed by: Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com ------------------------ Company: Clary Corporation Address: Clary Corporations 320 W Clary Ave San Gabriel, CA 91776 US Phone: 818 287-6111 UPS Products: I'm not sure of the entire line, but their PC series includes [ On-line -npc ] UPS ranging from 400 to 1500 VA [ 450 to 2400 VA -npc] with surge and noise suppression. Voltage regulation to 3%, frequency to 1 Hz, RS232 signal output, LED load and charge indicators. Sine wave output, Alarm, etc.. [ SW will do shutdown/startup and SNMP for LAN Manager, LAN Server, Netware 3.X, 4.X, Unix, VINES, Windows NT, and OS/2. -npc ] Contributed by: Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com who has no relation to Clary Corporation except as a user. Additions by npc from October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine. ------------------------ Company: Controlled Power Company 1955 Stephenson Hwy. Troy, MI 48083 US Phone: 1-800-521-4792 1-313-528-3700 US Fax: 1-313-528-0411 UPS Products: UPS, AC regulators, power conditioners. They will do custom work. [ On-line UPS from 400 to 60000 VA. Software with shutdown/startup and SNMP functions for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES and Windows NT -npc ] Contact: David Gerds (Sales) Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca Additions by npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994. ------------------------ Company: Data General UPS Products: Data General repackages another vendor's UPS's (from Exide?) with some sort of special cable. They deserve some mention since they provide UPS monitoring software built in to the AViiON (their UN*X boxen) line. It can be managed through sysadm(1M). Contributed by: Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu ------------------------ Company: DELTEC 2727 Kurtz St. San Diego, CA 92110-9980 US Phone: 1-800-854-2658 Email: None known UPS Products: "Most technologically advanced *true* on-line UPS." [ 400 to 2200 VA line-interactive UPS systems. Software with shutdown/startup and SNMP for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetBIOS, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT and OS/2. -npc ] Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu Additions by npc from October 1994, LAN Magazine. ------------------------ Company: Easy Options IBM Corporation Address: IBM Corporations Easy Options Dept. WC3J P.O. Box 2150 Atlanta, Ga 30301-9948 US Phone: Unknown. UPS Products: UPS ranging from 250 VA to 600 VA with surge and noise suppression. Sine wave output, Test/Alarm, etc.. These UPS's come with an insurance policy. If your UPS damages your systems, they'll pay you up to $25,000. Software: Works with APC's PowerChute software. I doubt that IBM is making their own UPS's rather than repackaging someone elses, but I'll be glad to post a correction if they are. Contributed by: Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com who has no relation to IBM, or Easy Options except as a satisfied customer. ------------------------ Company: EFI Electronics US Phone: 1-801-977-9009 1-800-877-1174 UPS Products: 400 to 1250 VA Standby UPS systems. Software with shutdown/startup and SNMP for LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT. Contributed by: npc, from October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine. ------------------------ Company: Elgar Power Systems Components 9250 Brown Deer Road San Diego, CA 92121 US Phone: 1-800-733-5427 1-619-450-0085 US Fax: 1-619-458-0267 UPS Products: UPS, Line Conditioners, AC regulators. Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca ------------------------ Company: Emerson Electric Co., Computer Power Div. US Address: 9650 Jeronimo Road Irvine, CA 92718, USA UK Address: Elgin Drive, Swindon Wiltshire SN2-6DX, England FR Address: 8, Rue de l'Esterel Silic 502 94623 Rungis Cedex France IT Address: SICE S.p.A. [Note national Name!] Via Rossini 6 20098 San Giuliano Milanese Italy US Phone: 1-800-BACKUPS UK Phone: +44 458 841898 FR Phone: +33 146 862336 EMail: n/a Products: Accupower GOLD Series: UPSes for 750, 1000, 1500, 2100 VA, the latter with external Batt Pack. Connector for {Power,Accu}Mon S/W. 5 yr Batt Life. Good Display (3 Status LEDs, Load and Batt Charge LED Bargraphs). Switches positioned wrong (Main Power Switch on Front, Batt Check/Alarm off on Back - I'd prefer them the other Way 'round). other UPSes? PowerMon Software: Triggers for Outage, long Outage, Batt low. Uses one serial Connector. Logging and Warnings to Users. Requires special Cable (included in PowerMon Kit). NOTE: The "Batt low" Trigger does not work "on SunOS 4.1.1 and above due to OS Limitations". >:-C I don't know whether this includes Solaris 2.x. AccuMon Software: Reported to support all Kinds of fancy Communication Items (gathering Power Line and internal UPS Data, test Batt Cap periodically and announce Batt Aging, switch off UPS on Computer Command, Logging Facilities for all these Functions) Other Software? Contributed by: Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE who has no relation to Emerson. ------------------------ Company: Exide 8521 Six Forks Road Raleigh, NC 27615 US & Canada Phone: 1-800-554-3448 1-919-872-3020 UPS Products: 800 to 1500 VA On-line UPS systems. Software does shutdown/startup and SNMP for NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT Contributed by: npc from October 1994 LAN Magazine. ------------------------ Company: Hewlett-Packard UPS Products: HP resells 4 models of the DELTEC 2000 series with PowerMon software with VA ratings of 2400, 3600 for both 120 and 240 VAC. HP resells 2 of APC's Smart-UPS modes, the 600 and 1250 VA models, again with HP's PowerMon software. Technical support is handled directly by APC. HP also offers the Power Trust family of UPS for use with their HP 9000/800 series machines. Power monitoring software for HP-UX is included. These appear to be created by HP themselves. They come in 600 VA, 120 VAC (deskside) and 3.0 KVA, 240 VAC (rackmount) sizes. The 3.0 KVA version weighs close to 400 lbs.! The big Power Trust boxes have a test/alarm silence button and a rocker switch which controls the output power. There is no bypass and it relies on a power distribution strip which is built into the enclosure. Contributed by: Tom Myers, tvmyers@icdc.delcoelect.com ------------------------ Company: Hipotronics Inc. Route 22 Brewster, NY 10509 US Phone: 1-914-279-8091 US Fax: 1-914-279-2467 UPS Products: UPS, Line Conditioners, AC Regulators. Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca ------------------------ Company: Intellipower US Phone: 1-714-587-0155 UPS Products: 650 to 1100 VA On-line UPS systems with software for shutdown/startup and SNMP for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT, AIUX, NetWareLite, LANtastic Contributed by: npc from October 1994 LAN Magazine. ------------------------ Company: Liebert US Phone: 1-614-888-0246 1-800-877-9222 UPS Products: 250 to 600 VA Standby UPS, 600 to 2000 VA Line-interactive UPS, 750 to 18000 VA On-line UPS systems. Software does shutdown/startup and SNMP for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetBIOS, NetWare 3.x, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT, OS/2. Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994. ------------------------ Company: Minuteman US Phone: 1-214-446-7363 1-800-238-7272 UPS Products: 300 to 425 VA Standby UPS, 500 to 2000 Line- interactive UPS, 500 to 1000 VA On-line UPS. Software does SNMP for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT. Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994. ------------------------ Company: Oneac US Phone: 1-708-816-6000 1-800-327-8801 UPS Products: 400 to 1800 VA Isolated Line-Interactive UPS with software that does shutdown/startup and SNMP for LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES and Windows NT systems. Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994. ------------------------ Company: Philtek Electronics Ltd. 2471 Vauxhaul Place Richmond, BC V6V 1Z5 Canada Phone: 1-604-270-4642 Fax: 1-604-270-8343 UPS Products: UPS's. Contact: Bob Smedley Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca ------------------------ Company: Pylon Electronic Development 5020 Fairway St. Lachine, PQ H8 1B8 Canada Phone: 1-514-633-8787 Fax: 1-514-636-1970 UPS Products: UPS's/Power conditioners, modular/industrial Contact: Graeme Turnbull Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca ------------------------ Company: Sola UPS Products: Apparently Sola repackages Deltec UPS systems. I have no other information. ------------------------ Company: Square D-EPE/TOPAZ US Phone: 1-714-557-1636 1-800-344-0570 UPS Products: 250 to 700 VA Standby UPS, 600 to 2000 VA Line-interactive UPS, 900 to 10000 On-line UPS. Software does shutdown and SNMP on AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetBIOS, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT, OS/2. Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994. ------------------------ Company: Superior Electric US Phone: 1-203-585-4500 UPS Products: 400 to 2200 VA On-line UPS. Software does shutdown/startup on AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT. Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994. ------------------------ Company: Toshiba International Corporation US Address: Industrial Division 13131 West Little York Rd. Houston, TX 77041 US Phone: 1-713-466-0277 US Fax: 1-800-321-1412 Canada Phone: 1-800-527-1204 UPS Products: Single and three phase double conversion on-line UPS, from 600 VA to 50 KVA. Serial line interface and auto-shutdown software available. Contributed by: Seth J. Bradley, sbradley@scic.intel.com, a very satisfied customer. ------------------------ Company: Tripp Lite 500 N. Orleans Chicago, IL 60610-4188 US Phone: 1-312-329-1601 1-755-5401 Email: None known UPS Products: On-line UPSs with pure Sine Wave output. [ 250 to 1250 VA Standby UPS, 250 to 2000 Line-interactive UPS, 300 to 2000 VA On-line UPS. Software does shutdown/startup, SNMP and RMON for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT, OS/2, LANtastic. -npc ] Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu Additional info by npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994. 05.03 Software products: Company: ResponseWare Inc. US Phone: 1-800-673-4777 Email: responseguy@AOL.com Products: ResponseWare is software that performs a great number of services for UPS users. ResponseWare uses a MS Windows console as its control point. The console communicates with both a UPS and the server. It has built-in out call paging and they offer a remote monitoring service where they can dial-in, diagnose problems and dispatch help. The software also can monitor temperature, humidity, security, life/safety, etc.. ResponseWare works on Novell (NLM), AS/400, HP 9000, Sun, and VAX platforms. It works with APC, Best, Deltec, Exide, Liebert and TrippLite UPS products. Cost is $99 per server and $199 for the MS-Windows Console program. Monthly monitoring charges begin at $99/month. Information provided by Bob Hunter of ResponseWare provides this information. ------------------------ On the NeXTSTEP front, there is a company called BenaTong (?) which sells a software package called PowerGuardian for NeXTSTEP only. It will work with APC, TrippLite and UNISON UPS's. If, for example, you call APC and ask for PowerChute for NeXT, they will refer you to Power Guardian. Contributed by: Chuck Bennett, (chuck@benatong.com) who works for this company. ------------------------ Also for NeXTstep, Max Hailperin wrote a package for monitoring Best Fortress UPS units called GACUPS. It consists of a daemon and a GUI. The daemon will shut the NeXT machine down gracefully and do logging. It also answers queries from the GUI. The GUI displays status information. It should be available on the usual NeXTstep anonymous FTP sites. One place you might want to check is in : ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submissions/. Any reports on how it works? Contributed by Max Hailperin (max@kolmogorov.gac.edu). 05.04 Other companies: ITT Power System Corp Digital Equipment Corporation. (They probably repackage someone else's stuff, but they're likely to support it and you can order it from their catalog.) I'd appreciate any information I can get on these. 06: TOPIC: Bibliography There are many good references and review articles on UPS information. Some of the best sources can be found in vendor information. There is great reference material woven into their propoganda. Some other good sources are: "The Dranetz Field Handbook for Power Quality Analysis", 1991, Dranetz Technologies, 1000 New Durham Rd., Edison, NJ 08818, 1-908-287-3680. "National Electrical Code Handbook", 1993, National Fire Protection Association, One Batterymarch Park, P.O. Box 9101, Quincy, MA 02269, 1-617-770-3000. "Grounding and Shielding in Facilities", 1990, by Ralph Morrison and Warren H. Lewis, John Wiley & Sons, New York, ISBN 0-471-83807-1. "Battling Power Problems", by Alan Frank, LAN Magazine, October 1994, pp 65-72, Miller Freeman, Inc.. "UPS Chart", by the LAN staff, LAN Magazine, October 1994, pp 74-84, Miller Freeman, Inc.. 07: TOPIC: Acknowledgements I would like to thank Charles Rhoades (cwr@zeus.jpl.nasa.gov) for his sage remarks on my draft of this document. I would like to thank Kevin R. Ray (kevin@kray.com) for sending me the freely distributable upsd software and Ronald Florence (ron@mlfarm.com) for contributing the pf program. Thanks also to Don Deal (Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu) for a great many valuable suggestions and that great section on the types of UPS units. The following people have all made valuable contributions to this document: Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu David E A Wilson, david@cs.uow.edu.au Edward Hartnett, ejh@larry.gsfc.nasa.gov Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com Kurt Hillig, khillig@chem.lsa.umich.edu Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com Steve Welch, smw@columbine.cgd.ucar.edu Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com Andrew J. Templin, nosilla@ohionet.org Chuck Bennett, chuck@benatong.com M.V.S. Ramanath, ram@sclara.qms.com Max Hailperin, max@kolmogorov.gac.edu Larry Moss, moss@cvs.rochester.edu Please note that I take full blame for any errors or omissions.
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Need help from tcsh users!!!] tcsh on Stuart or Terminal -->> 'set visiblebell' Date: 21 Dec 1994 11:05:08 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412211704.AA11890@alleg.EDU> I've switched to tcsh recently and was wondering if anyone had gotten the 'set visiblebell' option to work. putting it into .tcshrc hasn't worked for me. please respond via email as I will be off-line until Jan 22 (cc it to "comp-sys-next-misc@cs.utexas.edu" if you want to post reply as well.) TIA! TjL -- (I'M OFF THE INTERNET: Dec 22-Jan 22 -- Happy Holidays!!) Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: WriteNow demo ? Message-ID: <D166Bu.7G9@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 16:40:41 GMT Since some packages come with .wn documentation, is there any freeware that can be used to view .wn files ? I remember that the WriteNow demo was bundled with NS 2.2, but my NeXT was come with NS 3.0, so I don't have one. Is WriteNow demo available in ftp sites ? Thanks Mr.Sai-kee Wong
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Getting Mail.app to use .mailrc Date: 21 Dec 1994 11:47:04 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9412211746.AA12924@alleg.EDU> Does anyone else wish that one of Mail.app's features was a preference to use .mailrc instead of ~/.NeXT/.mailalias? Does anyone else think it is silly to have to keep _two_ sets of mail-aliases around? I'd suggest this to NeXT themselves if I knew how, but I thought I'd open it up for comment here. I know there are ways to filter the .mailrc into the .mailalias and back again, but it just seems a big ol' waste to have two sets. I hate when I have added to my .mailalias set and then sent mail from the commandline and can't use the alias I already have in my .mailalias because they are not in my .mailrc. Anyone listening NeXT? There are probably thousands of UNIX users who have already set up their .mailrc who don't want another list! I don't know, but it would seem easy enough to tweak Mail.app to use .mailrc (or at least offer the choice). thanks for listening. sorry if this sounded like comp.sys.next.gripe. I love my NeXT and I love my Mail.app, I would just like to see more happen with them. TjL -- (I'M OFF THE INTERNET: Dec 22-Jan 22 -- Happy Holidays!!) Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01 Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16 If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Are 3.3 Serial / Parallel Drivers FIXED!!?? Message-ID: <D162M0.5BF@tor.hookup.net> Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 15:20:23 GMT I just cannot believe it takes TWO YEARS (3.1 - 3.3) to write a serial and parallel driver that WORKS for Intel! Like, what is the !%$@ problem here? I realize that my stand-alone NS machine probably represent the MCCA qualifications NeXT is looking for, but it's my _home_ machine, and YES, we're building apps at work with NS...but I have to wonder about a company that can't build a serial port driver... NeXT, are you listening?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: HP DeskJets Supported in 3.3? Message-ID: <D162yy.5CB@tor.hookup.net> Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Organization: Damon F. Cooper Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 15:28:10 GMT Anyone got their 3.3 bundle yet? Are any HP DeskJet printers (ie. 500C, 550C, 540C, etc) supported? Does anybody know if NeXT will sell support for these printers separately? (Postscript => Dot Matrix support was in 3.1 but was removed for what I recall was licencing issues with Adobe...) Thanks! Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: qtge@oce-rd2.oce.nl (Tinus Geertsma 2957) Subject: Re: NCR SCSI driver for NS 3.3 Message-ID: <D15oE7.IAF@oce.nl> Sender: news@oce.nl (The Daily News @ nntp01.oce.nl) Organization: Oce Nederland B.V. References: <3d4626$r1j@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 10:13:19 GMT In article <3d4626$r1j@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, Grant Burrows <burrows@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >I just got NS 3.3 and expected a NCR SCSI driver. Apparently, it won't >be available until Q1 '95. Hmmm I hope is will be out soon because the NCR-interface is realy cheap. How about SCSI-interfaces on sound-cards? Is NeXT-Step going to support them too? Bye Tinus
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Fetching e-mail via SLIP line Date: 17 Dec 1994 13:52:52 GMT Organization: Filtronix Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3cuqfk$79@filtronix.eunet.be> References: <3cqkc6$5fi@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <3cqkc6$5fi@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ts110@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) writes: > I have recently connected my NeXT to the Internet via a SLIP line. I > am trying to get e-mail directly into my NeXT. I was told that SMTP is > not an efficient way to do this over a SLIP line and that I should use > POP/IMAP instead. > Does NeXT support the POP/IMAP protocol for downloading mail? How do > other SLIP users usually download their mail into a NeXT? I have used SLIP for my InterNet connection but have moved to PPP. For getting my I started out with POP/IMAP but I moved quickly to smail. I found it easier to configure than sendmail and works better than POP/IMAP. Filip
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Message-ID: <D162oo.vF@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 15:22:00 GMT References: <1994Dec21.022821.4809@galois.mit.edu> <3d8fb1$db3@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us Liens: 42 mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) writes: >the newest version is 1.5, my friend test it on the VESA machine, >it works fine. I have been told by two people so far that Mux works *initially* under 3.3, but after transfering a lot of fiddly bits over the lines, it will just stop dead. Acting as thought the interrupts no longer work ... Perhaps if you are not a `power user' you will not notice. I have ordered 3.3 finally, so I will find out what is wrong over christmas, hopefully the solution is simple, and perhaps post MuxV1.6 for those using 3.3. > But the problem is how to setup the device name in /etc/dev for com3, com4 ... >( As I remember, Mux driver can support 4 or 8 serical port ) Mux can support 8 ports per an interrupt (this can be changed to any value by diddling in MuxParm.h), and 4 interrupts (also programmable in MuxParm.h) for a total of 32 ports. If you have one port/interrupt, it will, as shipped, handle 4 ports under this situation (but nothing stops you from changing the driver to 1 port per interrupt, and 32 possible instances, except that there is just not 32 interrupts on the machine ...). The README file talks of a hardware hack to serial ports to share interrupts between ports, though, which I have done on pairs of ports to conserve interrupts. But you can not just do `COM1+COM3 on IRQ4', `COM2+COM4 on IRQ3' simply because as Intel Hardware goes, shared interrupts can not be done without some hardware hacking ... As for the /dev files, the PostLoader automatically generates the names necessary by asking the driver how many ports are configured, and using the appropriate Instance?.table files to generate the appropriate filenames (with a default set if non specified in the Instance?.table, starting with /dev/ttya, /dev/ttyfa, /dev/ttydfa, /dev/ttyda, /dev/cua, /dev/cufa, /dev/cuda, /dev/ttycudfa). PostLoader calls the driver to find out what it's major device number is, something that would be difficult to know ahead of time allowing you to make your own device nodes. >Mark no, I'm Mark! :-) :-) Joyeux Noel/Merry Christmas -- Mark Salyzyn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bhardwaj@cuug.ab.ca (Dharam Bhardwaj 282-6486) Subject: NeXT Printers w/ Intel Message-ID: <D16M5w.8v9@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 22:22:43 GMT Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group -- E-mail: bhardwaj@cuug.ab.ca | NeXTMail: (under construction) | Fax: 403-282-8969 Canada |
From: stachura@spot.next.com (Renata Stachura (Contractor)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printing from NeXT to HP Laserjet!! LOOKING FOR SOLUTION Date: 21 Dec 1994 20:31:13 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: ba Message-ID: <3da3ah$vg@rosie.next.com> Keywords: drivers, print, lasterjet Hello, I'm looking for software that will permit me to print from a NeXT Turbo to a HP Laserjet III. Any information out there on a solution? THANKS! Renata
From: mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike Zemina) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP! How do you send mail to a CompuServe address? Date: 21 Dec 1994 22:12:20 GMT Organization: WilTel Message-ID: <3da984$gso@gateway.wiltel.com> References: <3csrq1$q2a@news.acns.nwu.edu> Sam, Use: <compuserveID>@compuserve.com Where: <compuserveID> is number,number remember to replace the comma with a period! For example: 70461.1062@compuserve.com 70461,1062 is my compuserve ID Mike Zemina ==================== Sam Schapmann writes ; ;I just have a "normal" 'net connection. Thanks for the help! ; ;-Sam Schapmann ;(ASCII only, please)
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing from NeXT to HP Laserjet!! LOOKING FOR SOLUTION Date: 21 Dec 1994 18:46:15 -0500 Organization: Public Access Internet & UNIX Distribution: ba Message-ID: <3daeo7$aq@panix.com> References: <3da3ah$vg@rosie.next.com> Keywords: drivers, print, lasterjet In article <3da3ah$vg@rosie.next.com>, Renata Stachura (Contractor) <stachura@next.com> wrote: >Hello, > >I'm looking for software that will permit me to print from a NeXT Turbo to >a HP Laserjet III. Any information out there on a solution? Uh, the best solution I know of is to buy a PostScript cartridge. Alec -- Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Subject: Re: NeXT disks readable on Macs? Message-ID: <1994Dec22.054156.602@news.vanderbilt.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: a black NeXT References: <3davdh$k39@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 05:41:56 GMT David Voelker (dvoelker@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : A friend of mine has some files on a NeXT disk that he'd like to be : able to access on his Mac. Is there a Mac program like PC Exchange for : reading NeXT disks? No, but I would try to save the stuff with a NeXT to a Mac Disc :-) -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aBlackNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Markus Guehrs Subject: ATTENTION: mix DOES NOT WORK WITH NEXTSTEP 3.3 Message-ID: <D17J9s.DK4@ilink.de> Sender: usenet@ilink.de Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 10:17:50 GMT +++ i.link news flash +++ To all mix customers, NeXT starts shipping the new system software release NEXTSTEP 3.3. Due to internal changes to the system kernel, none of the current mix software versions (2.0 - 2.03) will work under NEXTSTEP 3.3. IN PARTICULAR, HAVING mix INSTALLED UNDER NEXTSTEP 3.3 WILL CAUSE THE COMPUTER TO HANG DURING REBOOT. Our engineers are currently working to adapt mix to NEXTSTEP 3.3 in order to create an upgrade (mix 2.04) that will solve the problem. We will make this update available via ftp. OUR SUGGESTION TO ALL mix USERS: Do not upgrade to NEXTSTEP 3.3 before the mix 2.04 update is available. Customers already having installed NEXTSTEP 3.3 will have to deinstall mix or revert to NEXTSTEP 3.2. Sincerely, Piers Uso Walter i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: info: HP vectra XM2 for NS/I? Date: 22 Dec 94 07:32:55 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Dec22073255@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> HP Vectra XM2 has intergrated (on board?) s3 vision-864/64bit/2MB-DRAM video system. Has anyone had experience in this system? Would it be a good NS/I system? Thanks, ZZ
From: gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NCR SCSI driver for NS 3.3 Date: 22 Dec 1994 02:57:34 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <3dapuu$qc2@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> References: <3d4626$r1j@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <D15oE7.IAF@oce.nl> In article <D15oE7.IAF@oce.nl>, Tinus Geertsma 2957 <qtge@oce-rd2.oce.nl> wrote: >In article <3d4626$r1j@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, >Grant Burrows <burrows@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>I just got NS 3.3 and expected a NCR SCSI driver. Apparently, it won't >>be available until Q1 '95. > >Hmmm I hope is will be out soon because the NCR-interface is realy cheap. >How about SCSI-interfaces on sound-cards? Is NeXT-Step going to support them >too? > >Bye > > Tinus > Good Question, I have an NCR & a SB-16 SCSI controllers, NeXTstep is still in the box though... -Gel -- ******************************************************************************* Gilles Khouzam, McGill University, Montreal, Canada (gel@cs.mcgill.ca) If I ever become so pathetic as to listen to country music, please SHOOT ME!!!
From: dvoelker@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Voelker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT disks readable on Macs? Date: 22 Dec 1994 04:30:41 GMT Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Message-ID: <3davdh$k39@nntp.Stanford.EDU> A friend of mine has some files on a NeXT disk that he'd like to be able to access on his Mac. Is there a Mac program like PC Exchange for reading NeXT disks? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Dave Voelker Stanford University dvoelker@leland.stanford.edu | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: rascal@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Pascal GAUDETTE) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Digital Mic. / Digital Ears -> Still available? Date: 22 Dec 1994 17:51:24 GMT Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill U, Montreal Message-ID: <3dceat$3qi@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> [Hmmm, perhaps this would be better in .hardware...] Anyone know if it's still possible to get the Ariel DM-N Digital Microphone and/or Metaresearch's Digital Ears for black hardware? Thanks in advance, -- Pascal "The Rascal" Gaudette rascal@cam.org / rascal@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 22 Dec 1994 11:25:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3dcjr1$8bk@jetsam.ee.pdx.edu> References: <3d5rtg$g0i@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3d5t27$6gh@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <3d7hot$rem@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes: >next's mach was based on mach 2.5 and was never ever ever never no way >a micro kernel. supposidly they added some mach 3.0 features to nextstep 3.3. I'm waiting on purchase of 3.3 until I hear some details of what Mach 3.0 features were added. Can anyone tell me if 3.3 has external pagers? Certainly 3.3 developer docs must have an overview of the changes?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: klein@math205.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (John R. Klein) Subject: Bug in Mail.App ? Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator) Message-ID: <D18BqJ.Hs@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 20:32:43 GMT Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Rechenzentrum We have 3-4 NeXT stations (operating 3.0) here, and the following phenomenon has been recently called to my attention by mail recipients from these machines: When someone uses the Mail.app to send a message from one of the machines, the application has a tendency insert extra blank lines between sentences. For example, the text: 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. would be sent as: 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. If I had at the end of the first and third lines had i n s e r t e d and then d e l e t e d a carriage return. Curiously, (a) my Outgoing mailbox doens't record this alteration, and (b) when I send messages using in Sendmail the problem doesn't occur My questions: (1) Is this a known problem? (2) How does one fix it? Please send me a reply to my e-mail address. Thanx, John R. Klein -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%=E(&AA=F4@,RTT M($YE6%0@<W1A=&EO;G,@*&]P97)A=&EN9R`S+C`I(&AE<F4L(&%N9"!T:&4@ M9F]L;&]W:6YG(%P*<&AE;F]M96YO;B!H87,@8F5E;B!R96-E;G1L>2!C86QL M960@=&\@;7D@871T96YT:6]N(&)Y(&UA:6P@<F5C:7!I96YT<UP*9G)O;2!T M:&5S92!M86-H:6YE<SI<"EP*5VAE;B!S;VUE;VYE('5S97,@=&AE(`I<8B!- M86EL+F%P<`I<8C`@('1O('-E;F0@82!M97-S86=E(&9R;VT@;VYE(&]F('1H M92!M86-H:6YE<RP@=&AE(&%P<&QI8V%T:6]N(&AA<R!A('1E;F1E;F-Y(&EN M<V5R="`*7&(@97AT<F$@8FQA;FL@;&EN97,*7&(P("!B971W965N('-E;G1E M;F-E<RY<"EP*1F]R(&5X86UP;&4L('1H92!T97AT.EP*7`H*7&D@)U1W87,@ M8G)I;&QI9RP@86YD('1H92!S;&ET:'D@=&]V97-<"D1I9"!G>7)E(&%N9"!G M:6UB;&4@:6X@=&AE('=A8F4[7`I!;&P@;6EM<WD@=V5R92!T:&4@8F]R;V=O M=F5S+%P*06YD('1H92!M;VUE(')A=&AS(&]U=&=R86)E+@I<:3`@7`I<"G=O M=6QD(&)E('-E;G0@87,Z7`I<"@I<:2`G5'=A<R!B<FEL;&EG+"!A;F0@=&AE M('-L:71H>2!T;W9E<UP*7`I$:60@9WER92!A;F0@9VEM8FQE(&EN('1H92!W M86)E.UP*06QL(&UI;7-Y('=E<F4@=&AE(&)O<F]G;W9E<RQ<"EP*06YD('1H M92!M;VUE(')A=&AS(&]U=&=R86)E+@I<:3`@7`I<"DEF($D@:&%D(&%T('1H M92!E;F0@;V8@=&AE(&9I<G-T(&%N9"!T:&ER9"!L:6YE<R!H860@7`H*7&(@ M:2!N(',@92!R('0@92!D"EQB,"`@86YD('1H96X@"EQB(&0@92!L(&4@="!E M(&0*7&(P("!A(&-A<G)I86=E(')E='5R;BY<"EP*0W5R:6]U<VQY+"!<"EP* M"BAA*2!M>2!/=71G;VEN9R!M86EL8F]X(&1O96YS)W0@<F5C;W)D('1H:7-< M"F%L=&5R871I;VXL(&%N9"!<"EP*"BAB*2!W:&5N($D@<V5N9"!M97-S86=E M<R!U<VEN9R!I;B!396YD;6%I;%P*=&AE('!R;V)L96T@9&]E<PIN)W0@;V-C M=7)<"EP*37D@<75E<W1I;VYS.EP*7`HH,2D@27,@=&AI<R!A(&MN;W=N('!R M;V)L96T_7`HH,BD@2&]W(&1O97,@;VYE(&9I>"!I=#]<"EP*4&QE87-E('-E M;F0@;64@82!R97!L>2!T;R!M>2!E+6UA:6P@861D<F5S<RY<"EP*5&AA;G@L B7`I*;VAN(%(N($ML96EN"EP*7`I<"EP*7`I<"EP*(`I]"BY< `
From: idddsb@iddss1.iddis.com (Dean Banfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DeskJet 540 w/FIP3.1? Date: 23 Dec 1994 00:03:11 GMT Organization: IDD Information Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <IDDDSB.94Dec22190311@iddss1.iddis.com> Hi, I am aware vaguely that I should use Ghostscript to support a non-postscript printer, but have yet to get the package and install it. Any tips on how to interface for an HP DJ540? I bought the color cart. Can it support color? What do I have to do to my printcap file to pump output out through Ghostscript and on to the printer? Any advice welcome, as I'm a bit green on printer interface and UNIX. Thanks. -Dean -- Dean Banfield IDD/Information Svcs 90 Grove St Ridgefield CT 06877
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: razor@net23.com (Razor) Subject: WHERE IS DOTS? Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News) Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 05:51:12 GMT Message-ID: <D191LE.Bop@news2.new-york.net> So where is DOTS? I have a cannon bjc-600e printer I want to use with NS3.2/FIP, and blove@alembic.com ain't answering my mail? Anyone have any info on where to find information and pricing/ordering for DOTS for NeXTSTEP? -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Subject: Re: DeskJet 540 w/FIP3.1? Message-ID: <D18yzE.1pC@tor.hookup.net> Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Organization: Damon F. Cooper References: <IDDDSB.94Dec22190311@iddss1.iddis.com> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 04:54:50 GMT In article <IDDDSB.94Dec22190311@iddss1.iddis.com> idddsb@iddss1.iddis.com (Dean Banfield) writes: > Hi, > > I am aware vaguely that I should use Ghostscript to support a non-postscript > printer, but have yet to get the package and install it. Any tips on how > to interface for an HP DJ540? I bought the color cart. Can it support > color? > > What do I have to do to my printcap file to pump output out through > Ghostscript and on to the printer? Any advice welcome, as I'm a bit > green on printer interface and UNIX. Thanks. > > -Dean > -- > Dean Banfield IDD/Information Svcs > 90 Grove St > Ridgefield CT 06877 I have a 540 w/color kit...to date I am able to print VERY small files (graphic & otherwise)...see below...good luck!!! --- If for personal use, you can try using GNU ghostcript (2.6.1) + ghostHPDJ... However, will be in trouble if you want to use the Intel parallel port...the NeXT supplied (3.2) parallel port is broken, and you will need to install the publicly available NewParallelPort...I have experienced some problems, however, with this driver as well, but I'm working to get it ironed out with the author... Commercially, DOTS has the same problem with the native Intel parallel driver (I had no success with it with either Parallel driver), but JetPilot works fine with the native NeXT parallel driver (the JetPilot guys have obviously worked around the NeXT driver bugs...) Currently, I've heard that DOTS will not work with 3.3, and since JetPilot works with 3.2 by working around the driver bugs, and NeXT has supposedly made SOME enhancements to the Parallel driver, you want to contact the authors of JetPilot to check if it works with 3.3... (Whew!) On the other hand, if you want to print via TCP/IP, that's another matter... Good Luck!! Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net Subject: PPP "cannot determine remote address" Prob Message-ID: <D12My4.7F9@aetnacan> Sender: news@aetnacan Organization: Aetna Life Insurance Company of Canada Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 18:49:16 GMT Hi there...using PPP2.2 on NEXTSTEP... About 75% of the time we get a "Could not determine remote IP address" error when attempting bring up the PPP link (to commercial Internet provider)... Anybody have any idea what's causing this (transcript follows): Thanks in advance, Damon F. Cooper damonc@damonc.hookup.net ================== Dec 19 14:37:05 damonc pppd[689]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufa .. Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (1500) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ffffffff) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (4492b08) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFACK. Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0xffffffff> <magic 0x4492b08> <pcomp> <accomp>] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 2e de e6 62] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 192.251.166.138> <compress VJ 0f 01>] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 <compress VJ 0f 01>] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: received COMPRESSTYPE Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (45) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: returning Configure-NAK Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: sent [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2 <addr 0.0.0.0>] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 04 49 2b 08] Dec 19 14:37:07 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 <addr 192.251.166.138> <compress VJ 0f 01>] Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x3 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 0.0.0.0>] Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: received COMPRESSTYPE Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: (45) Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: received ADDR Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: (0.0.0.0) Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: (ACK) Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: returning Configure-ACK Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x3 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 0.0.0.0>] Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: up Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: Could not determine remote IP address Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: ipcp: down Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: sent [IPCP TermReq id=0x2] Dec 19 14:37:08 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [IPCP TermAck id=0x2] Dec 19 14:37:23 damonc pppd[689]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 2e de e6 62] Dec 19 14:37:23 damonc pppd[689]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 04 49 2b 08]
From: terence@sfsc.com (Terence Liow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: System bnombed! Date: 23 Dec 1994 07:12:38 GMT Organization: SFSC Message-ID: <3ddt96$clr@maple.enet.net> Linked files and one bad drive caused my system's file server to crash. Can anyone tell me what the necessary files are to restore that will make my system run as custom configed again? The system is currently hanging on mount entries, and various add-on programs after the base boot All I can think of right now are: /private/etc/*.* (esp. host*.*, rc.* files) /etc/uucp/*.* /etc/sendmail/*.* Since my e-mail died along with it, please post here (reading/posting on MS-DOS machine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.postscript From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: LZW compressed bitmaps in EPS Message-ID: <1994Dec22.153844.1610@aplki.toppoint.de> Keywords: EPS, LZWDecode, bitmap Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger Date: Thu, 22 Dec 94 15:38:44 GMT Hi, To import an image into NeXT TeX it needs to be an EPS image. No problem, it's easy to convert a TIFF into an EPS file containing just this bitmap. However, these EPS files get HUGE because each pixel is represent by a 2 bytes of HexCode. Is there a tool that converts the images in EPS files to binary LZW compressed images (for the LZWDecode filter)? Thanks & merry X-mas A. Ploeger --- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome *** -- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome ***
barilvm!vms.huji.ac.il!shum.cc.huji.ac.il!pretzel.cs.huji.ac.il!bagel.cs.huji.ac.il!teler Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TELL ME ABOUT NeXTStep Message-ID: <3debng$3n4@pretzel.cs.huji.ac.il> From: teler@bagel.cs.huji.ac.il (Eyal Teler) Date: 23 Dec 1994 11:19:12 GMT Distribution: world Organization: The Hebrew U. of Jerusalem, Computer Science Dept. Not being able to upgrade to a new Amiga (there are none), I thought about moving to a PC, but with something other than the horrible Windows. My first thought was OS/2, but someone from an OS/2 group reminded me that NeXTStep is there. I've read the FAQs I could find (and they're from February, so some things might have changed), but I'd be grateful to hear from NeXTStep users - is it worth buying NeXTStep just for fun? Specifically: I'll likely buy a PC with 8MB RAM, 400+MB HD, CD-ROM, and a DX2/66. I know that 8MB is the absolute minimum for NeXTStep, and 400MB is also tight, considering that I probably will have at least Windows in addition to NeXTStep. Will such a system be at all usable? I'll probably be wanting to use the machine mainly for word processing, programming for fun (perhaps creating some PD apps), games (likely being run from DOS), and, if possible, fun graphics stuff, like is available on the Amiga (morphing, 3D animations...). What of these will I have on NeXTStep (and for cheap)? What will I have to run from another PC OS? And last, but certainly not least, how much will NeXTStep cost me? Is there an educational discount (for me as a student)? If there is, are there any limitations to this version? Remember, I want NeXTStep mainly for fun, so I won't have to suffer from horrid DOS/Windows (I don't want to use something more primitive than AmigaDOS). If not NeXTStep, I'll use OS/2. Another special question (which I also asked in the past, but I'll ask again): what Hebrew support is available for NeXTStep? It's not that critical, because I don't do that much of Hebrew word processing (a cheap PC word processor will probably be enough for me), and I probably won't need much else in the way of Hebrew apps, but I'm still interested to know. Thanks for any help. Please e-mail me (teler@cs.huji.ac.il). ET
From: aleks@fidelio.dke.univie.ac.at (Aleksandar Vestica) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: ISDN Date: 23 Dec 1994 13:25:03 GMT Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dej3f$obk@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> References: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> In article <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>, root@moses (Operator) writes: |> >Well, actually a few manufacturers I know of have considered but then |> >abandoned providing a NeXT driver. |> |> Ich habe auf der Messe letzte Woche mit einem Entwickler von Miro |> ueber das Thema Treiber fuer NSI gesprochen. Er bestaetigte mir, dass |> eine Entwicklung im Bereich des moeglichen waere, nur bisher noch |> keine Anfragen bestehen wuerden. |> |> Also schreibt mal eure Meinung (Er liest diese group). |> |> Gruss |> Markus Allein hier in Oesterreich gibt es mind. 50 Leute, die an einer NeXT Loesung auf Intel (oder SPARC) Interesse haben !!! Ich hoffe, es gibt bezueglich der Software fuer die MIRO ISDN Karten bald was neues ... Frohe Weihnachten. Greetings, Aleksandar Vestica ^_^ (o o) Systemsadministrator and Softwaredeveloper +---------------oO0--(_)--0Oo-------------------------------------------------+ | University Vienna, | N Institute for Applied Computer Science & Information Systems, N e Dept. of Knowledge Engineering e X X T Bruenner Strasse 72 Tel: ++ 43 - 1 - 29 128 / 249 T | A-1210 Vienna / Austria / Europe Fax: ++ 43 - 1 - 29 128 / 264 | | E-Mail(MIME & NeXTmail): aleks@dke.univie.ac.at | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: magnus@thakhasis.solace.mh.se (Magnus Nasholm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Date: 23 Dec 1994 14:57:55 +0100 Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden Message-ID: <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu> <3d7fbc$7o@kerby.ocsg.com> dennisg@news-srvr.CyberSAFE.COM (Dennis Glatting) writes: >In article <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu>, >Timothy Miller <millert@grad.csee.usf.edu> wrote: >>I missed the files. Could someone email them to me? >> >Me too. I missed them to...Couldn't someone repost them???
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WHERE IS DOTS? Date: 23 Dec 1994 18:07:50 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc. Message-ID: <3df3lm$jbg@potogold.rmii.com> References: <D191LE.Bop@news2.new-york.net> In article <D191LE.Bop@news2.new-york.net> razor@net23.com (Razor) writes: :So where is DOTS? I have a cannon bjc-600e printer I want to use with :NS3.2/FIP, and blove@alembic.com ain't answering my mail? Anyone have any :info on where to find information and pricing/ordering for DOTS for :NeXTSTEP? DOTS products are available from us at OpenSource. Bob Love has recently joined us here to perform special projects, not sales unfortunately. If you have any questions about the DOTS printer drivers or other NEXTSTEP products, give us a call at 1-800-TRY-OPEN. Regards, Garrett L. Rice OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411 303.861.2393 FAX garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing from NeXT to HP Laserjet!! LOOKING FOR SOLUTION Date: 23 Dec 1994 16:34:03 GMT Organization: Filtronix Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <3deu5r$6s@filtronix.eunet.be> References: <3da3ah$vg@rosie.next.com> In article <3da3ah$vg@rosie.next.com> stachura@spot.next.com (Renata Stachura (Contractor)) writes: > I'm looking for software that will permit me to print from a NeXT > Turbo to a HP Laserjet III. Any information out there on a solution? Cheapest way is to use GhostScript, latest version 3.12 and should PostScript Level 2 compatible. It's working fine with my DeskJet 520 on Intel. Filip
From: rencsok@via-annex2-14.cl.msu.edu (Randy Rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 24 Dec 1994 01:49:59 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <3dfuo7$vrv@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3dcjr1$8bk@jetsam.ee.pdx.edu> In article <3dcjr1$8bk@jetsam.ee.pdx.edu> marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels) writes: > kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes: > > >next's mach was based on mach 2.5 and was never ever ever never no way > >a micro kernel. supposidly they added some mach 3.0 features to nextstep 3.3. > > I'm waiting on purchase of 3.3 until I hear some details of what > Mach 3.0 features were added. Can anyone tell me if 3.3 has external > pagers? Certainly 3.3 developer docs must have an overview of the changes? Actually looking over my NS3.3 upgrade order packet from NeXT... On the Quick summary of features and benefits page and under OS is simply stated Mach 3.0. And on the back of that page (NeXTSTEP Release 3.3 upgrade) I read the following.. .. (bit deleted) By incorporating core technologies from Mach 3.0 and BSD 4.4 networking, Release 3.3 operates more reliably and scales better to networks with tens of thousands of users.. Similiarly under the Performance section.. What I want to know is if NS3.3 isn't completely Mach3.0 compatible (admittedly I don't know all the specs..) how can they put under OS Mach 3.0? Shouldn't it read Mach 2.5 with these (blah. blah, etc.) Mach 3.0 enhancements? Personally I'm still waiting on a comment from NeXT about our SCSI drivers, and :-) on multiprocessor support for our black cubes.. Oh joy if I'm looking for a Christmas present from NeXT it'd be any sort of release of information/code etc. pertaining to the abandoned NeXT Dimension. Happy Holidays, and Peace Randy
From: cthulhu@prairienet.org (Kevin L. Barthelemy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Followup-To: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Date: 24 Dec 1994 10:09:19 GMT Organization: Prairienet, the East-Central Illinois Free-Net Message-ID: <3dgs0f$6ul@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu> <3d7fbc$7o@kerby.ocsg.com> <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> Magnus Nasholm (magnus@thakhasis.solace.mh.se) wrote: : dennisg@news-srvr.CyberSAFE.COM (Dennis Glatting) writes: : >In article <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu>, : >Timothy Miller <millert@grad.csee.usf.edu> wrote: : >>I missed the files. Could someone email them to me? : >> : >Me too. : I missed them to...Couldn't someone repost them??? Ditto! -- ==> I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous <== ** George Orwell was an optimist. **
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What works in 3.3? Date: 24 Dec 1994 17:23:49 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dhlf5$h7i@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <3dfuo7$vrv@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article <3dfuo7$vrv@msunews.cl.msu.edu> rencsok@via-annex2-14.cl.msu.edu (Randy Rencsok) writes: > Personally I'm still waiting on a comment from NeXT about our SCSI > drivers, This is an issue that I'd really like to have addressed. With Sam Goldberger's Pyro upgrade looking more certain, the relatively poor SCSI performance of black hardware is looking like a real performance bottleneck of black hardware. Is there any reason why some of the SCSI-2 features like synchronous transfers can be implemented on black hardware. I've got a Winchester drive that's just begging to fly :-) --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc From: stimpy@gladding.demon.co.uk (Tim Gladding) Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) Message-ID: <19941224.112124.34@gladding.demon.co.uk> Followup-To: alt.test Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Acorn Enthusiasts 'R' us. References: <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu> <3d7fbc$7o@kerby.ocsg.com> <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 11:21:24 GMT In article <magnus.788190903@thakhasis>, magnus@thakhasis.solace.mh.se (Magnus Nasholm) wrote: > dennisg@news-srvr.CyberSAFE.COM (Dennis Glatting) writes: > > > In article <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu>, > > Timothy Miller <millert@grad.csee.usf.edu> wrote: > > >> I missed the files. Could someone email them to me? > > > Me too. > > I missed them to...Couldn't someone repost them??? ARRRRGGGHHH!!! Look... stop asking for bloody reposts to something that shouldn't have been posted in the first place!! Please note, this is going out across no less than SEVEN news groups, and is starting to PISS ME OFF. PLEASE DESIST from posting, talking or even thinking about these pictures... NOW!!!! An appropriate follow-up has been set :) I will not be reading there... Ps. all those in favour of binaries uucoded in to usenet news... NOW can you see my point?!?!?!?! -- Tim Creator of alt.fan.piers and proud of it :-) Cambridge, England. Try it, for all your Piers Wombwell needs!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 08:12:54 +0100 (MET) From: neptune@galaxy.owl.de (Hendrik Mylius) Organization: Hen's Haunted House of Hellfire Horrors References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu> <3d7fbc$7o@kerby.ocsg.com> <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> Message-ID: <ELYHFIVNUP@galaxy.owl.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 247 In <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> Magnus Nasholm wrote: >>>I missed the files. Could someone email them to me? >>Me too. >I missed them to...Couldn't someone repost them??? Are you completely out of your mind? Do NOT repost this sh*t! Hendr!K
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: imdat@irex.de (Imdat Solak) Subject: Re: Printing from NeXT to HP Laserjet!! LOOKING FOR SOLUTION Message-ID: <1994Dec22.145129.3935@irex.de> Sender: imdat@irex.de Organization: IREX Software AG, Hochreit 7, D-83329 Waging, Germany References: <3daeo7$aq@panix.com> Distribution: ba Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 14:51:29 MET In article <3daeo7$aq@panix.com> chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson) writes: > In article <3da3ah$vg@rosie.next.com>, > Renata Stachura (Contractor) <stachura@next.com> wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I'm looking for software that will permit me to print from a NeXT Turbo to > >a HP Laserjet III. Any information out there on a solution? > > Uh, the best solution I know of is to buy a PostScript cartridge. You should get you a copy of JetPilot (as _I_ know, it supports also LaserJetIII). Send an e-mail to jens@interpc.de (well I think, they have something like info@interpc.de but I'm not sure) <Jens Gloede>. He's CEO of Interpersonal Computing GmbH in Germany. Imdat -- Imdat Solak * IREX Software AG * Hochreit 7 * D-83329 Waging * Germany phone: +49 8681 694-0 * fax: +49 8681 694-200 * mail: imdat@irex.de #import <sys/company/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mishelle@thoughtful.com> From: mishelle@thoughtful.com (Mishelle Baun) Message-ID: <9412282326.AA01477@thoughtful.com> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 94 16:26:56 -0700 Subject: Re: Multimedia Authoring Cc: next-misc@antigone.com In article <3d3cp0$2sn@next01.biw.cube.de> schock@next02.biw.cube.de (Gerald Schock) writes: >> >> is there any multimedia authoring system out there running under >>NeXTSTEP >> 3.2(Intel)? >> >> Thanks >> GS >todd.nathan@mccaw.com (Todd Nathan) writes >Most definitely, HyperSense from Thoughtful Software. >Mailing list is <hypersense-user@thoughtful.com> >and the email for information is <info@thoughtful.com> >or <hypersense@thoughtful.com>... >(tried your email address, but it bounced very quickly) >It has been out running on NS/I for about 1.5 years. Gerald, I too could not reach you via email. HyperSense is an easy-to-use, multipurpose authoring system. Many in the NEXTSTEP community find it to be the easiest to use, with its simple yet powerful scripting language. Former Macintosh and HyperCard users will enjoy being able to use familiar HyperTalk commands, while appreciating the sophisticated and flexible HyperSense environment Thoughtful Software is having a Christmas sale on its current HyperSense Release. The introductory price is $299, but until February 28, you receive $1 discount for each day before that date you purchase it. (It costs $237 on December 28th, $238 on December 29th and so on until it reaches $299 on February 28th.) HyperSense demos are available at the Oregon State, Purdue and StepWise ftp sites, and on most 3rd party CD ROMS. Or contact Thoughtful Software directly. If you would like to join our hypersense user mail group, do so at hypersense-user-request@thoughtful.com. Be Well, Mishelle Baun Thoughtful Software 616 E. Locust St. Ft. Collins, CO 80524 303/221-4596
From: schock@next02.biw.cube.de (Gerald Schock) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: tiff format with alpha channel Date: 29 Dec 1994 09:56:09 GMT Organization: BIW Systemhaus Message-ID: <3du13p$6p1@next01.biw.cube.de> Keywords: tiff images alpha graphics Hello, still searching for a tool or informations: "how to do" to transform unassociated alpha channels into associated ones. Short prob info: Creating images with alpha channels in Photoshop(Windows) other applications or converters(using tiff revision 6) couldn't read the tiff format without errors. Thanks GS
From: robertl@odessa.nwest.mccaw.com (Robert LLewellyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hayes ISDN Apdaptor for NeXT, PhoneKit, and NeXTstep 3.3 Date: 29 Dec 1994 18:35:49 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <3duvi5$jdh@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: ISDN, NeXT, PhoneKit Has anyone tried to use the PhoneKit from NS3.0 with NS3.3? I am looking to setup an ISDN connection and want to get a Hayes ISDN adaptor for NeXT. I remember the adaptor being advertised at NextConnection about 1 1/2 years ago, it connected to the DSP port I think. Well I was discussing the matter with a colleague and he reminded me that PhoneKit was dropped after NS3.0. Has anyone heard of a continuation of PhoneKit, is it still compatible with newer releases of NeXTstep although not supported? All of the above is assuming NeXT hardware. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Robert L.
From: trance9@clark.net (Trance 9) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Networking Help Needed Date: 29 Dec 1994 15:27:55 -0500 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <3dv64b$j8n@explorer.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello All, Now that I have nearly every thing I need for my mini-network at home (a NeXT 040 workstation and a Sun 2/120 running 3.2, I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find step by step instructions for networking them via ethernet. Because of the very helpful folks on the net, I've been able to get all the hardware I need (transieiver, null 10Base-T cable, etc) but I don't know how to go about configuring the machines to mount via NFS on each others filesystems. Beyond that (or perhaps, prior to that) I'm not sure what needs to be configured just to get them talking to each other via IP. If anyone could point me in the direction of instructions of this sort, I'd be most gratefull. I hope all have a good new year. Peace, James
From: Barre Ludvigsen <borrel@hiof.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Panic - please help - my boot disk has crashed! Date: 29 Dec 1994 23:02:24 GMT Organization: Ostfold College Distribution: world Message-ID: <3dvf60$hjs@ratatosk.uninett.no> My harddisk has crashed. It has been complaining about "bad media" for a couple of days. I backed up everything yesterday to a DAT tape (hopefully it's there.) Now I'm looking forward to struggling with formatting and putting a system onto a new disk. I have the disk (a 2GB Seagate), I also have an NS 3.1 CD and a CDROM drive. But my original system administration documentation says nothing about booting from a CD and installing a boot hard disk. There's only stuff on a second disk. Could someone _PLEASE_ send me a mail explaining the boot from CD procedure and any advice on how to build the new boot disk? I really do feel quite lost. - Barre Barre Ludvigsen - Ostfold College - Halden, Norway <a href="mailto:borrel@hiof.no">borrel@hiof.no</a>
From: l39801@ci.ist.utl.pt (Highlander C H B M) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug Followup-To: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Date: 30 Dec 1994 00:29:39 GMT Organization: Instituto Superior Tecnico Message-ID: <3dvk9j$7v2@alfa.ist.utl.pt> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu> <3d7fbc$7o@kerby.ocsg.com> <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> <ELYHFIVNUP@galaxy.owl.de> Hendrik Mylius (neptune@galaxy.owl.de) wrote: : In <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> Magnus Nasholm wrote: : >>>I missed the files. Could someone email them to me? : >>Me too. : >I missed them to...Couldn't someone repost them??? : Are you completely out of your mind? No we're not ! Some of us would like to have a bit of fun !!! : Do NOT repost this sh*t! Was it that bad?? :-)))) : Hendr!K -- +---------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Carlos Hugo Baptista Morgado | " My conscience is fadding and I can feel | | e-mail: l39801@alfa.ist.utl.pt | it ........... Press F1 for help " | | l39801@ci.ist.utl.pt | HAL9000 being made IBM compatible | | +-------------------------------------------+ | Instituto Superior Tecnico de Lisboa -- Universidade Tecnica de Lisboa | | ( Technical Superior Institute of Lisbon - Portugal ) | | Licenciatura em Engenharia Electrotecnica e Computadores | | ( Electronics and Computer Science Degree) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: bungi@shark.omnigroup.com (Timothy J. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Interesting stuff in the Kernel Date: 29 Dec 1994 18:14:16 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <3dvqdo$4cd@shark.omnigroup.com> References: <3dk6em$1ko@cocacola.whoi.edu> scott@cocacola.whoi.edu (Scott A. McIntyre) writes: [deleted] >promiscuous-on >promiscuous-off >add-multicast >rmv-multicast >I didn't think that the ethernet interface for nexts had a promiscuous >mode that one could actually get at....as for the multicasting stuff, >does anyone know of any applications that exist that will actually >take advantage of multicasting aplicationst hat will run on a next? without >the libraries and includes, i'm not sure we could actually see it working.. The 3.3 Developer beta has all the necessary headers for IP multicast support. I've already written a MulticastSocket class hierarchy using some example code for Sun or SGI, I forget which. There is some code out on the Web for a multicast version of ping, a mulitcast test program, and a network video app (runs on SGI, I think). The multicast code from all these works fine under NS3.3Dev. To find the code, just go to WebCrawler and search for 'multicast'. Don't have the URL handy, but if you have a hard time finding it, let me know. -- Timothy J. Wood Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: tbm@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug Date: 30 Dec 1994 10:18:04 GMT Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <3e0mos$h70@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> References: <niteowl-0812940344200001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <niteowl-1012941258250001@rusxppp06.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu> <3d7fbc$7o@kerby.ocsg.com> <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> <ELYHFIVNUP@galaxy.owl.de> <3dvk9j$7v2@alfa.ist.utl.pt> Highlander C H B M (l39801@ci.ist.utl.pt) wrote: > No we're not ! Some of us would like to have a bit of fun !!! We all understand you. All of us want fun and if it`s fun for you to view those pictures then you should do so. It`s not fun for us to read this threat the whole time, "repost, repost, ..." I have put them on my WWW site so you can down-load them from there. Please stop to request these pictures in all these news-groups! Thanks. http://fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at/tbm/images/insel_intide_A.gif http://fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at/tbm/images/insel_intide_B.gif (btw, the second isn`t that good ...) -- martin michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at
From: andrea.borroni@galactica.it (ANDREA BORRONI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DROP Message-ID: <8A0A3A2.0782000267.uuout@galactica.it> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 15:30:00 +0100 Distribution: world Organization: GALACTICA PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION - ++39-2-29.00.61.50 DROP
From: tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: what's with OmniWeb ?? Date: 30 Dec 1994 18:48:21 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com> I went to lauch OmniWeb yesterday and I get this panel saying: "This is an old version of OmniWeb. There is almost certainly a newer version available from Omni's ftp site, ftp.omnigroup.com. Please get the newer verion and delete this version" What ??? I'm running a recent version I got just a few weeks (maybe a couple months, I dunno) ago, and unless they've embedded code to "expire" my version (not sure which it is), I can't see why this is happening. What's worse is "ftp.omnigroup.com" doesn't exist and "omnigroup.com" is unreachable. anyone know what's up ?? -tom darker_wave < /home/tmeyer > % ftp ftp.omnigroup.com ftp.omnigroup.com: unknown host ftp> darker_wave < /home/tmeyer > % ftp omnigroup.com ftp: connect: Host is unreachable ftp>
From: peterk@combo.adsp.sub.org (Dr. Peter Kittel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: insel_intide_A.gif.uu (GIF file,Re:Pentium bug :-) References: <19941211.105835.74@mipc-08.brunel.ac.uk> <3csmnv$m0l@mother.usf.edu> <3d7fbc$7o@kerby.ocsg.com> <magnus.788190903@thakhasis> <19941224.112124.34@gladding.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <peterk.0321@combo.adsp.sub.org> Date: 29 Dec 94 23:12:33 MEZ Organization: Private Site In article <19941224.112124.34@gladding.demon.co.uk> stimpy@gladding.demon.co.uk (Tim Gladding) writes: > >ARRRRGGGHHH!!! > >Look... stop asking for bloody reposts to something that shouldn't have >been posted in the first place!! > >Please note, this is going out across no less than SEVEN news groups, and >is starting to PISS ME OFF. That's the point: All this whining about some really harmless posts of *small* binaries already takes a multifold of the volume of these incriminated posts! This is insane. So better stop this whining and be a bit more tolerant. It doesn't pay to act furiously. -- Best Regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // Private Site in Frankfurt, Germany \X/ Email to: peterk@combo.ganesha.com Currently employed at "Commodore Konkursverwaltung Hembach"
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: what's with OmniWeb ?? Date: 30 Dec 1994 19:02:26 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL Message-ID: <3e1lg2$dmb@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com> In article <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com>, Tom Meyer <tmeyer@mcs.com> wrote: >I went to lauch OmniWeb yesterday and I get this panel saying: > >"This is an old version of OmniWeb. There is almost certainly a newer >version available from Omni's ftp site, ftp.omnigroup.com. Please get the >newer verion and delete this version" > >What ??? I'm running a recent version I got just a few weeks (maybe a >couple months, I dunno) ago, and unless they've embedded code to "expire" >my version (not sure which it is), I can't see why this is happening. > >What's worse is "ftp.omnigroup.com" doesn't exist and "omnigroup.com" is >unreachable. > >anyone know what's up ?? > They posted some messages indicating they screwed up in the expiration date on the software. Basically you need to download a new copy. I also had FTP problems. I could connect, but it would not accept anonymous passwords a few days ago. It appears to be up now ftp.omnigroup.com Connected to gaea.titan.org. 220 gaea FTP server (Version wu-2.4(1) Fri May 20 23:00:05 PDT 1994) ready. Name (ftp.omnigroup.com:root): anonymous IP address: 198.151.161.97 What I did because I could not get FTP to work, was to set my system clock back before 12/25/94 and used OMNIWEB to download a new copy via WWW. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright) Subject: Encryption......etc Message-ID: <D1n0rz.Kn8@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 18:59:59 GMT As we all know, not to long ago the friendly folks at the NSA put down their foo and disallowed NeXT from shipping their FEE encryption software outside of the U.S. I'm looking for any information on that decision, as well as info on the general export restrictions on cryptography as research on a project. I know RSA has struck a deal to allow them to export stuff limited to 40(I think) bit keys. As well, any info about the final settling of differences between the gang at RSA and the PGP folks would be most appreciated. thanx in advance j
From: dirk@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Schwarzhans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone noticed? midi seems to be broken under 3.3 on black hw! Date: 30 Dec 1994 20:38:55 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <3e1r4v$ira@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Originator: dirk@buran Hello, has anyone encountered the same problems like me? I tried to use different midi programs under NS3.3 and they all couldn't find the midi driver! The problem seems to be that the midi driver won't load! "/usr/etc/kl_util -s" reveales the following: SERVER: midi Allocated SERVER: slip Loaded SERVER: nxd Loaded SERVER: audio Loaded but no line like "SERVER: mididriver Allocated" Trying to add the driver manually using "/usr/etc/kl_util -a /usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/mididriver_reloc" as root generated the following output: Adding server with relocatable /usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/mididriver_reloc /usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/mididriver_reloc is thin mach-o Allocating server mididriver Server mididriver linking /usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/mididriver_reloc against /mach Server mididriver linking relocatable "/usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/mididriver_reloc" kern_loader: Link failed rld(): Undefined symbols: _current_task _current_thread _thread_should_halt kern_loader: server mididriver won't link Server mididriver didn't initialize Server mididriver deallocating Server mididriver Deallocated kl_util : server won't relocate (108) A work around to this bug seems to be to replace the files in "/usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/" with the files from release 3.2 but I cannot garantee that this doesn't cause other problems! Dirk Schwarzhans
From: jsickel@sickel.com (Jeffrey A. Sickel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help with new Interface Builder Date: 30 Dec 1994 20:13:24 GMT Organization: Radian Corporation Message-ID: <3e1pl4$o7c@zippy.radian.com> Keywords: IB Does anyone know how to use the new IB like the old IB? I liked the old IB way of popping up your source code when duble clicking on the class. I haven't found a way of doing this under the new IB that came with EOF. All help appreciated. jas jsickel@sickel.com

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